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Infowars.com forward slash show. | |
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| It's the War Room with Owen Schroer at Infowars.com forward slash show. | ||
| Donald Trump said on this video that he likes kissing pretty women and that you don't? | ||
| Sir, let me, can I finish? | ||
| like kissing ugly women folks in the middle of nineteen eighty four civilization so Corey Feldman has gone on dr. I Oz and shared a 1993 audio tape of him naming his alleged sexual abuser. | ||
| Here is that clip of Corey Feldman on Dr. | ||
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Oz. Because of the Michael Jackson situation, right? | |
| That's why they were interviewing me. | ||
| It was about Michael Jackson. | ||
| But, okay, if you actually go back and you listen to the tapes, the fascinating thing is that here I am, still a kid. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if I was 21, 22, somewhere in there. | ||
| But I'm talking about the fact, and I believe I might have been within the statute at that time, but I'm talking about a very real situation that happened to me, and I'm trying to explain that to them over and over as they're going on. | ||
| Saying, well, you know, Michael, you know, might be somebody that you don't think he is. | ||
| You know, it would break your heart to realize that your friend might be something else. | ||
| And, you know, there's lots of interviews we've done, and we have a lot of reason to believe. | ||
| And I kept saying over and over, look, Michael is my friend. | ||
| I know him very well. | ||
| He is the furthest thing. | ||
| This is a guy who doesn't think about sex. | ||
| He's asexual. | ||
| He's not a sexual person. | ||
| It doesn't even come across a conversation with him. | ||
| All right, so I want to listen carefully to what Corey told them during their investigation of my... | ||
| This is your words from 25 years ago. | ||
| Believe me, believe me, the person who molested me, if this was him, you know, that did that to me, then this would be a different story because I would be out there upfront, you know, doing something immediately to have this man given what was due to him. | ||
| I'll be clear with everybody. | ||
| Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department has confirmed they found the 1993 tapes. | ||
| They have not confirmed that Cory's copies of them are the same ones. | ||
| But we are confident that they are. | ||
| There's only one interview. Only one interview. | ||
| So Cory's in 1993 telling the Santa Barbara detectives that it's not Michael Jackson. | ||
| It's actually someone else, and you know it's not Michael Jackson because you know what molestation is about. | ||
| You've lived it. Well, it was several people. | ||
| I was molested by a couple guys. | ||
| But there's one person in particular that they bring up on these tapes, and his name is John Grissom, who is one of your abusers. | ||
| Take a listen. But the information that we got was that John, is it Grissom, who was your assistant, and that when Michael started paying a lot of attention to you, when you started spending time with Michael, that he got angry and jealous, basically, because you were hanging around with Michael and not with him. | ||
| Did I hit a source for it? | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| First of all, I knew Michael long before I knew John Grissom. | ||
| And John Grissom was the guy who molested me. | ||
| So, I don't know where he got the facts from, but, I mean, they're kind of messed up, but John Grissom, you know, was the guy who molested me, and he, I'm sure he probably was jealous of how much I respected Michael and how much I hung around Michael, and if in fact he may have thought anything was going on with Michael, I could have... | ||
| Imagine how a sick person like that would think and would think that, you know. | ||
| How old were you when that happened? | ||
| 15. | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're not asking you to tell somebody. | ||
| Right, no, I mean, I'm just, no. | ||
| All right, now you can find this full video, I'm sure, all over the internet and on YouTube, but there's an interesting little ripple that you get there when Feldman is talking about being friends with Michael Jackson. | ||
| We know the psychological makeup of these sexual abusers, and if they thought... | ||
| I think what he's basically saying is if they were jealous because they thought that I decided to have a relationship with Michael, that's why they decided to abuse me. | ||
| It's very interesting, and this continues to come out of Hollywood. | ||
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The War Room. | |
| Infowars.com dot com forward slash show let's make talk radio great again This is the War Room. | ||
| Okay, I am about to be joined by Bev Harris, and this is a segment that, in today's show, 24-hour news cycle that has become so condensed. | ||
| The election last week seems like ancient history. | ||
| But I'm not letting it go because half a million Republicans magically did not show up to vote. | ||
| No one else is asking why. | ||
| No one else is even... Yeah, it's good to be here, as always. | ||
| So I'm not sure how much you paid attention to the special election in Alabama. | ||
| Obviously you're an expert on the black box voting, the techniques they use to have electronic voting rigged and whatnot. | ||
| But just from a basic reaction, what did you think when you saw the results from the election last Tuesday night putting Doug Jones in the Senate? | ||
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To be honest, I wasn't surprised. | |
| It was an election that could plausibly have gone either direction. | ||
| But there was something that was really, really a red flag that happened shortly before the election. | ||
| And I don't know if you guys have covered this. | ||
| What happened was all of the voting machines in Alabama, they now automatically take a photograph of the paper ballot when they scan it. | ||
| And they actually don't count what's on the ballot. | ||
| They count what's on their photograph of the ballot, which is a slight distinction. | ||
| And that photograph, of course, is a public record. | ||
| It should be. It's just a record, just a computer file. | ||
| Well, John Brakey from Arizona and a bunch of other citizens went ahead of the election, and they filed in court to get a... | ||
| To get an order from the court that they would have to preserve those ballot images, those photographs of all the ballots, because that would make it very fast to be able to confirm the results. | ||
| People could just ask for that computer file and see all the ballots. | ||
| And they won. | ||
| The judge said, no, you can't. | ||
| Well, they had been informed by the Alabama election officials that they were going to destroy them. | ||
| Destroying a computer file takes more work than not destroying it. | ||
| You have to actually destroy it, right? | ||
| So they wanted to take the extra effort to destroy the record of the vote. | ||
| The judge ordered that they had to retain those, but the Alabama Supreme Court, after the end of the day, without notifying the plaintiffs or the attorneys or hearing arguments, reversed the ruling and said that they can destroy all the evidence. | ||
| Now that is singly most suspicious thing I've seen, because you don't destroy evidence if you're not worried about what that evidence contains. | ||
| That evidence of what was on the ballot is a concern. | ||
| Yeah, I'm so glad that you broke that down again for us. | ||
| Now, we did report on that, but again, you're the expert, so I'm glad that you confirmed all of that for me. | ||
| I'm not familiar with the Alabama Constitution. | ||
| I'm not as an expert on the Alabama voting law as I am here in Texas, but in Texas... | ||
| What they did would have been considered illegal. | ||
| Now, they do it here in Texas, too, and they're never held accountable. | ||
| But is that not illegal to erase these records? | ||
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It is illegal. In fact, and it's illegal in every state, regardless of the state law, because this was a federal election. | |
| And federal election law says you have to preserve the evidence for 22 months. | ||
| So it is illegal. | ||
| It's extremely concerning in so many levels. | ||
| Number one, why they would want to destroy it in the first place, there's no reason to. | ||
| And secondly, why when a judge clearly said, no, you can't destroy it. | ||
| This is evidence. It's a federal law. | ||
| It doesn't cost you anything to keep it. | ||
| You don't have to do anything special. | ||
| Just keep it. And then without even notifying the attorneys or hearing arguments, it was overturned after hours by the Supreme Court. | ||
| That is Actually unprecedented. | ||
| I've never heard of that ever. | ||
| Yeah, and when you look- That's what they were to hide the evidence. | ||
| And when you look- Yeah, when you look at the series of events, I don't know how people can't be raising red flags. | ||
| You had, as you just broke down, they deleted the digital record, which the key to that is, that's the one they count, as you already identified. | ||
| They don't actually count the paper ballot. | ||
| They never count the paper ballot. | ||
| The paper ballot gets scanned and then essentially taken an image of digitally, and then they count that digital record, which they then delete. | ||
| But look at all the room for error you have here. | ||
| You've got, okay, I'm going to go in and digitally cast my vote, and then that vote is going to be put on a piece of paper, not physically by me, but by the machine. | ||
| Then I put that piece of paper produced digitally into another machine that then supposedly digitally takes a photocopy and then counts it digitally. | ||
| What type of voting procedure is this if not so they can rig it? | ||
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Well, yeah, and let me elaborate a little bit more on that. | |
| You alluded to the report that we did called Fraction Magic. | ||
| What that is, is a mechanism that's in the machines that allows a person with inside access to assign the percentage of votes that people will get. | ||
| So, for example, no matter what the votes actually are, we're going to assign, and it's very precise, it's for precinct and so forth, so it can really mimic the demographics. | ||
| But in other words, we're going to assign in such and such a precinct in Birmingham that the vote will be this percent for Doug and this percent for Roy Moore. | ||
| And that can be pre-assigned. | ||
| Of course, to do that, it has to be able to sort of break your vote into pieces because it's never going to come out evenly otherwise. | ||
| So that's why we call it fraction magic. | ||
| It's a program that's in the machine that allows them to, instead of counting your vote, for example, as one, it can count it. | ||
| This is illicit, but it allows it to count it as like 0.75 and someone else's as 1.25 or whatever. | ||
| Now, I was very curious. | ||
| I know this to be true because I have the programs and I have actually executed the fraction magic myself to see that it does work. | ||
| And all of your videos are on blackboxvoting.org. | ||
| She's not just saying this. You can find her videos. | ||
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Yeah, if you go to YouTube and just put in Fraction Magic, you'll see it. | |
| Now, but I was very curious, what happens to these pictures, these ballot images, because how would they display it if it was one and a half votes or.75 votes or something? | ||
| So I ran Fraction Magic, and then I went to look at the images. | ||
| Well, you know what it does? | ||
| It erases the images. | ||
| So the only proof that you could even use to go back would be the paper printout of the digital ballot. | ||
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And then if you go back, if you circle back and go, they said we have to delete the images, which is a lot of extra work. | |
| But if they happen to know, which I know, that when you execute the fraction magic vote rigging, it erases the ballot images. | ||
| That may be what's really under all this, is that they know that the program they plan to use was erasing the ballot images. | ||
| Because when you think about it, it doesn't know how to assign a percentage of a vote on a ballot image. | ||
| So what it does is it just erases them. | ||
| Well, let me tell you what I think happened. | ||
| And this is, I'm coming out and saying this is my conspiracy theory. | ||
| So before anyone says that I'm saying this as fact, this is my conspiracy theory. | ||
| And I want to hear your thoughts on this, Bev. | ||
| I crunched the numbers from about 20 years worth of elections in Alabama, the senatorial elections and the presidential elections. | ||
| So you're looking at, it was about 20 different elections that I was measuring and analyzing. | ||
| And what I came to find out, based on crunching the numbers, I did it for everyone last Wednesday here on The War Room. | ||
| You can go back and look at those segments. | ||
| What I think happened, and the numbers panned this out, Well, undeniably, the numbers will show that half a million Republicans didn't show up to vote for the senatorial election. | ||
| That's not a conspiracy. | ||
| That's just cold, hard facts. | ||
| You can look at the numbers. But would it be possible for a vote for Roy Moore to only count for half a vote while a vote for Doug Jones counted for a full vote? | ||
| That's my question for Bev Harris, the expert of fractional magic. | ||
| When we come back on the other side of the war room, this is Owen Schroyer. | ||
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| And that's what I think happened in the Alabama special election last week. | ||
| Again, this is my conspiracy theory. | ||
| And I can't believe no—I mean, honestly, folks, because this isn't—I'm not—like, these are just cold, hard facts. | ||
| Half a million Republicans all of a sudden did not show up to vote. | ||
| You can go look at the numbers, crunch the numbers, do the analysis for yourself— Half a million Republicans magically did not show up to vote last week in the senatorial special election. | ||
| Now, is that because of voter intimidation by the Democrats lying about Roy Moore and lying about public records and your vote being public record? | ||
| Or is that because perhaps maybe there was some fractional magic that went down? | ||
| And I think that's exactly what happened because, again, if you look at the numbers, it turns out perfectly that if this is what happened, a vote for Roy Moore equaled half a vote and a vote for Doug Jones equaled a full vote. | ||
| You play that out. | ||
| Then, all of a sudden, the numbers actually add up when compared to the previous Alabama elections. | ||
| Bev Harris is my guest. She's the expert on all of this. | ||
| Bev, I don't know if you've gone that deep in the analysis of the Alabama election last week. | ||
| I don't know if you've done the deep research or if that's even your thought pattern as to what happened. | ||
| But that's what I believe. | ||
| Am I crazy for thinking that? | ||
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Well, no, but let me put it this way. | |
| There's a couple of ways to arrive at the numbers that you did. | ||
| One would be by looking at the check-in list of voters and comparing it to their voter history. | ||
| Another would be looking at the number of votes and simply saying we would ordinarily have this many Republican votes and we're a half million shy of where we need to be. | ||
| If fractional voting was used, What will happen is, what it does is remember, when you do the fractional vote, if your vote is a half, someone else's, the Democrats' vote would be one and a half. | ||
| Because it has to add up to the number of people who sign into that book. | ||
| Oh, I see. So they still have to fill out the correct mathematics for a full whole number. | ||
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Yes, but, yeah, and so that's why fraction magic is so bad, because basically it will match up to the number that checked in, but it's just that the individual vote is counted as a fraction. | |
| So you would be able to know if fraction magic is used, if that explains the half a million discrepancy, but if you saw that fraction There was correspondingly a half million more Democratic votes. | ||
| Okay, so there would have to be less Republican and basically the same amount more in the Democrat. | ||
| Well, just to be clear so our audience knows, that was not the case. | ||
| The case was that the Democrat vote pretty much showed up the exact same it had turned out for about the last five, six, eight elections. | ||
| So the Democrat number was right where it was expected to be, where the Republican number just literally was halved. | ||
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Now, it can be because the situation was so controversial in Alabama. | |
| It's not really possible to know as a fact how many people just decided, I'm not going to turn out because I'm inspired. | ||
| I know that was the case with Hillary Clinton's election back in 2016. | ||
| I mean... It was really hard for people to decide they wanted to cast a vote for her, and a lot of people just said, yeah, Bagot, I'm not going to do it. | ||
| It's hard to actually get any facts as to whether that was due to shenanigans or that was due to being uninspired, but it probably was not due to Fraction Magic. | ||
| Now, there is something else that was an anomaly that you might be able to really help with with all of your listeners. | ||
| There was a whole bunch of write-in votes that showed up at the last minute, and guess what? | ||
| Coincidentally, it was just the right number of write-in votes to tip the election away from Roy Moore. | ||
| The number was statistically anomalous. | ||
| It was really weird, and it all seemed to go for one candidate. | ||
| And one of the things that would be so helpful in terms of setting a precedent for the whole country would be if Roy Moore, if folks could encourage Roy Moore to ask to see the ballot images of the write-in votes. | ||
| There's only about 3,000 or something. | ||
| It wasn't a huge number, but it was enough to chip the race. | ||
| And that would force them to either admit that they had broken the law by destroying a federal record or, you know, if you have a whole bunch of write-in votes show up, and I've seen this happen, by the way, and you look at them, it is not uncommon to find they are all in the same handwriting or even typed in. | ||
| Well, I will tell you this. | ||
| I did not find it as anomalous, the number of write-ins. | ||
| There was an increased number, but I could figure that might make sense given the nature of this election. | ||
| Some of the anomalies that we did notice, and this is a story that I never really ran with because it's impossible for me to actually prove it's a story, but other people were taking screenshots and they have the timestamps where the number of write-ins was at 16,000 and then an hour later at 14,000. | ||
| Now, I don't know if that was just some weird internet error or something, but people did discover that. | ||
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Well, here's the thing. | |
| Because we can't really get a redo or undo that election, what we can do with that is take something like go ask for the write-ins, which is just a small number, and get the candidate to say I need to see the ballot images for the write-ins. | ||
| Because that's not very much to ask, right? | ||
| Well, Bev, I'll tell you, there was actually 22,000 write-ins in this election. | ||
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But I think there was a set of them. | |
| It seems to me it was in the range of 2,000. | ||
| They came all of a sudden. | ||
| They just came in all at once. | ||
| Oh, okay. You're saying it was a strange rush at the same time. | ||
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Yeah, right, right. So there were some other anomalies with it. | |
| Okay. But if you get the candidate going in and asking for a subset of the ballots, so it's not a huge amount of work, and just say, I want this subset, and I wanna look at the ballot images, that is gonna force their hand. | ||
| And that is so important nationwide for the 2018 election. | ||
| Think about this. I agree. | ||
| It will force the whole state of Alabama to either comply or break the law. | ||
| And then you've got precedent. | ||
| So it's kind of hard to do sometimes if you don't have standing to do it. | ||
| Or even if you just said, I want to get the write-ins for one suspicious county. | ||
| Well, as far as I can tell, Roy Moore has still not conceded. | ||
| By the way, another anomaly you may or may not be aware of, in Talladega County, that goes red almost every time, went blue in this last election. | ||
| For the first time ever, they didn't do paper ballots. | ||
| Oh, how convenient is that, too? | ||
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Oh, that's interesting. Oh, Alabama has got very dodgy elections going way back. | |
| The book I'm working on right now is a little bit of a deviation from elections, but it is related. | ||
| I'm working on a book that documents The incidents of corruption and public corruption and corrupt elections through indictment and convictions. | ||
| So it's not, again, it's fact, right? | ||
| People are gonna be stunned, but I was stunned when I saw Alabama. | ||
| Well, you know what? There's already a great website out there. | ||
| I cannot think of the name of it right now, but it's documented at all. | ||
| People think that election meddling and rigging elections doesn't happen. | ||
| These people have been caught with dead voters, illegal votes, voter fraud for such a long time. | ||
| Bev Harris is the expert. | ||
| Blackboxvoting.org. | ||
| Check out her website. Thank you so much, Bev. | ||
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| The left is just, they just love free speech. | ||
| I mean, Twitter is just all about free speech. | ||
| Here's a few stories that just got handed to me. | ||
| The headline from thedailybeast.com today, Twitter banned some white supremacist who flee to safe space. | ||
| Oh, oh, that's right. | ||
| See, that's how they do it. | ||
| It's just a white supremacist, so it's okay to just erase them. | ||
| It's okay to dehumanize them. | ||
| See, that's what they've done now. | ||
| They've brought back white supremacists. | ||
| That's what the left has done. | ||
| Actually, it's funny because it was the left that was the bitter clingers to white supremacy. | ||
| Now here they are bringing white supremacy back, but blaming their enemies. | ||
| Boy, you just... I'm telling you folks, today is this world. | ||
| I mean, how much longer can this last? | ||
| This is from the Huffington Post. | ||
| Twitter has started its messy purge of neo-Nazi and alt-right accounts. | ||
| There's their other buzzwords. | ||
| So you see, they dehumanize their opponents by saying white supremacists, neo-Nazis, alt-rights. | ||
| And that's how they dehumanize. | ||
| And then they can just get away with basic illegal behavior, assault, banning free speech. | ||
| So this is what... We're dealing with now, if you're conservative, you wear a Trump hat, you might get jumped and beaten. | ||
| That's just what you get because you're not a human, right? | ||
| Well, Andrew Torba created Gab as an outlet that was free speech. | ||
| But what happened to Gab? | ||
| Well, it looks like, in my opinion, there was some antitrust stuff going on here between YouTube and Google and Facebook and Twitter and Android and Apple and magically Gab is no longer available on the Apple App Store or the Google Play Store. | ||
| Andrew Torba joins me now. | ||
| Andrew, as Twitter is purging themselves right now of anyone that's conservative, what's going on at Gab? | ||
| We're exploding in growth. | ||
| It has been one of the craziest days since we launched Gab in August of 2016. | ||
| And when we did so, we said, I was working and living in Silicon Valley at the time, and I had very close connections, patriots who are inside of Facebook, Twitter, and Google, who warned me that this censorship was coming. | ||
| This was part of the agenda. | ||
| I've known this for a very long time and have been preaching this stuff for a very long time, and it's very surreal to see it all happening today in real time. | ||
| And it's really duplicitous the way that they tried to label this to make it okay. | ||
| I mean, if we were really going to label this, we'd be saying, I mean, if we were painting an accurate picture, it'd be Twitter is purging conservatives. | ||
| Twitter is purging Trump supporters. | ||
| But what they do is they twist it. | ||
| They twist it. They say white supremacists, neo-Nazis. | ||
| See, that's their little buzzwords that they've been using here for a year to associate with Trump supporters. | ||
| It's just totally inaccurate. | ||
| Absolutely. And it's totally inconsistent as well. | ||
| So, you know, the logic behind the bans today really doesn't seem to add up. | ||
| It seems very sporadic. | ||
| And I think that we'll start to see more of a purge, sort of a rolling purge over the next year in preparation for the 2018 midterm elections and also the 2020 presidential elections. | ||
| These Silicon Valley companies realize that they don't control the narrative anymore. | ||
| The narrative is in the hands of the people. | ||
| They don't control the flow of information anymore. | ||
| The flow of information is in the hands of the people. | ||
| And alternative networks like yours, like Gab, we are leading the way to defend the free flow of information on the Internet and to keep the Internet free and open for generations to come. | ||
| I don't want my grandchildren to not have the Internet that I grew up with and the access to information and that free flow of information that I had access to growing up and that we all did. | ||
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So what are you doing right now? | |
| Because... They've tried to act like you don't exist. | ||
| They've dehumanized you. | ||
| They've gotten rid of you on the Apple. | ||
| They've gotten rid of you on the Android. | ||
| How do you compete in this rigged market? | ||
| Sure. So what we're doing is we're opening up our API and allowing other third-party developers from around the world to start building on top of the Gab platform. | ||
| And this is actually originally how Twitter and Facebook and others took off at first because they opened their ecosystem to allow developers to build on it. | ||
| And that's what we're doing now. | ||
| So we're going to allow other developers to start submitting their own versions of Gab apps and just flood the app stores with these until eventually one gets approved. | ||
| And until that time, we're going to continue to evolve our web product and build our Exodus protocol, which is going to be censorship proof. | ||
| So think of like BitTorrent or Netflix. | ||
| Email is a protocol that is censorship proof. | ||
| We're building a social networking communication protocol that any developer in the world can build on and that is censorship proof, completely decentralized and peer to peer. | ||
| So that's what we're actually in the process of building right now because I was under the assumption that we would be able to operate and build on the free market. | ||
| And as you said, the free market is rigged. | ||
| It's not free when you have a duopoly of these two companies controlling and owning 98% of App Store distribution. | ||
| Yeah, it's clearly not a free market when they've decided to erase you from that market. | ||
| And I've actually got some crew, guys, I'm not even sure what that means, but the crew is wondering, they're interested in how to sideload Gab. | ||
| Are you aware with this? | ||
| Yes. Yeah, so for Android device owners, you can actually get our app directly from gab.ai on our Android page, and you can download the latest version. | ||
| As you can see right here, the screen's up. | ||
| So you can download that and sideload that onto your device without actually downloading it from the Google Play Store. | ||
| Unfortunately, Apple doesn't allow this, but a shortcut for that would be we tell our users to open Gab in Safari browser. | ||
| And to click share and then click add to home screen. | ||
| And what this will do is it'll add an app-like icon to your home screen and then you can access Gab with one click right from your device. | ||
| So this is what we're forced to do because they won't let us operate in their markets. | ||
| You know, one of the things I think that's kind of tough for you to break through, and it's really tough for all of us to break through, but for you as somebody trying to grow Gab, There's a weird connection that people have to their Twitter accounts, and I'm sure Facebook too. | ||
| I don't know. Twitter is the only social media I'm on, so I really only know about it there, but There's this weird loyalty to their Twitter account, this weird connection to their Twitter account, where they know all of this is going on. | ||
| They know it's a rigged market. | ||
| They know Jack Dorsey's views, and yet they don't want to leave that platform. | ||
| They're not ready to give it up and to move to a gab for obvious reasons. | ||
| Like I said, you're rigged out of the market. | ||
| They try to act like you don't exist. | ||
| But I feel like it's important now for people to realize, if you don't invest with the right people, if you don't invest with the good guys, Just keep in mind, Twitter will erase you. | ||
| Exactly. And that would be my rebuttal there is that if you don't start sharing content on Gab, even if it's once a day, once a week, it's not like you have to spend all day every day on Gab. | ||
| And I don't expect you to. | ||
| We don't expect you to. People use multiple social networks. | ||
| You don't have to be exclusive to Gab. | ||
| But what I would say is that you should at least put in a little bit of effort because one day you're going to wake up, you have all of your eggs in one basket of Twitter, and it's going to be gone. | ||
| That entire audience is going to be gone. | ||
| There's going to be no way for you to access it. | ||
| Hopefully you've downloaded your content before you got suspended as well. | ||
| So, you know, just keep that in mind is that if you spend a little bit of time investing in alternative platforms like Gab, there are others, spend the time investing in these people that are saying, we have a 100% commitment to free speech, and we're going to make sure that we empower dissidents around the world who are being silenced on the internet right now. | ||
| Do you know, I haven't actually looked into this, do you know, are any of the Trumps on Gab, Trump Jr., Ivanka, is anyone there using Gab? | ||
| Not that I'm aware of, but a lot of people have anonymous accounts and there's been some rumors, so I can't comment on that exclusively, but to my knowledge, no, they're not officially on Gab yet. | ||
| That would be one way, certainly, to kind of put a hole in the wall that they're trying to build around Gab right now, is to get one of the Trumps on there, because then the media would be forced to cover it. | ||
| I don't understand why India isn't covering it right now. | ||
| We're exploding in growth. | ||
| We're adding 50,000 new users every single quarter. | ||
| We just raised a million dollars this summer. | ||
| We opened up our new funding round and reserved $1.2 million in 30-some days. | ||
| We are doing incredible things. | ||
| We're building out our team. We're building out our platform. | ||
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And we're going to continue to be people-powered as we go forward. | |
| Well, the Twitter purge is on, and you can follow it. | ||
| I know that people are following it and documenting it right now, all the accounts that are going down without a trace. | ||
| It could be you next, folks. | ||
| You never know. It happened to Roger Stone. | ||
| It's happened to Milo Yiannopoulos. | ||
| They want to silence conservatives. | ||
| They want to silence Trump supporters. | ||
| We'll be right back with Andrew Torba on the other side. | ||
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| Are you still on Twitter? | ||
| Have you checked lately? | ||
| Are you a conservative? | ||
| Are you a Trump supporter? | ||
| You may have been purged, because after all, you are a neo-Nazi. | ||
| You are a white supremacist. | ||
| That is according to the Daily Beast, Huffington Post, and of course Twitter, who is currently purging its platform of these quote-unquote white supremacists that are really just Trump supporters of every different background and ethnicity and race and age and gender and everything. | ||
| But they just really are filled with so much hate that they have to erase these people from their social media so that they don't have to be faced with them. | ||
| See that's what this is really to me I think as well that the left is so weak minded They really don't even know how to handle conservative speech other than just to silence it. | ||
| And that's why you see the behavior you see at these protests. | ||
| That's why you hear about Twitter now purging conservatives from the platform. | ||
| I'm joined by Andrew Torba here. | ||
| Of course, he is the creator of Gab. | ||
| Andrew, what other media outlets, if any, are even reaching out to you to help promote Gab right now? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. We have actually a media blacklist because for the first year of our existence, we gave the mainstream media a shot, a fair shot to cover us fairly. | ||
| And they proceeded to call us the Twitter for racists and alt-right Twitter and all this nonsense when from day one we said, all are welcome. | ||
| We have an incredibly diverse executive team. | ||
| And, you know, we've welcomed everybody from the day that we've opened our doors. | ||
| And I think here's what's going on right now. | ||
| You know, JP Morgan, I think, just, you know, said praises of Twitter today and their stock started soaring. | ||
| Well, you know, Twitter is owned by a Saudi prince who's now in jail over money laundering, as we know. | ||
| It's owned by hedge funds. | ||
| It's owned by the likes of Jack Dorsey. | ||
| All of these people, I think you nailed it. | ||
| In the free marketplace of ideas, when your idea is garbage, you have no choice but to censor the better ideas. | ||
| And the best ideas are always going to win. | ||
| So when their ideas are not winning anymore, and that's empirical through things like Trump getting elected and Brexit and all of these populist movements all across Europe, when the establishment and the elites are no longer winning, they have no other choice. | ||
| But to censor the speech that is rising in the marketplace. | ||
| And I think we're going to continue to see this type of stuff happen as we go forward here into 2018 and 2020 and beyond. | ||
| You know, I couldn't help but laugh there when you said they call you the Twitter for racist. | ||
| You know, Jack Dorsey hangs out and is friends with DeRay McKesson. | ||
| I think that's how you say the guy's name, DeRay McKesson or something like that. | ||
| Right. This man is one of the most vitriolic, racist people I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| He hates white people. | ||
| I mean, look, I don't even care. | ||
| I'm not bothered. If someone hates white people, fine. | ||
| Hate white people. You know what? | ||
| Not my problem. But these people exist on Twitter. | ||
| They're like a dime a dozen. | ||
| I mean, DeRay McKesson gets to go on Twitter and have anti-white people. | ||
| Rants all the time. | ||
| You can go on Twitter right now and probably plug in I hate white people into the search bar. | ||
| You'll probably get a thousand results. | ||
| So it's not that they're anti-racism. | ||
| It's that they're anti-white people, and that's okay. | ||
| But the whole thing, again, is run by, at least started by Jack Dorsey, who's white. | ||
| So I just had to laugh when they say that Gab is the Twitter for racists when you can go on Twitter right now and find just as much racism, if not more, on Twitter than you can on Gab. | ||
| Absolutely. And you can find it on Tumblr. | ||
| You can find it on Reddit. | ||
| You can find it on Facebook. Anywhere you go on the internet that you're looking for quote-unquote hate speech, you can find it, especially if it's against white people. | ||
| That seems to be allowed. | ||
| That type of hate speech seems to be allowed. | ||
| And the double standard here is It's disgusting. | ||
| They point at us and they call us racists, and yet they allow other racists to malign and say they want to kill white people all over the internet. | ||
| It's absurd. The double standard of Silicon Valley is absurd, and the people are starting to wake up to it. | ||
| Yeah, DeRay McKesson has an award. | ||
| Did you know that he has an award he gives out called the Coon Train Award? | ||
| Really? He gives out an award. | ||
| It's called the Coon Train Award. | ||
| Did you know about that? I had no idea. | ||
| So, right. How is that not racist? | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| If Andrew Torba of Gab wanted to give out a Coon Train Award, he would be called a racist immediately and excoriated by everyone. | ||
| But McKesson is allowed to give out a Coon Train Award. | ||
| The only reason I know about this is because he recently... | ||
| Guys, you can look this up. | ||
| Jesse Peterson, Jesse Lee Peterson, who comes on the show with me, he recently got the Coon Train Award because Jesse Peterson is a Trump supporter, a conservative. | ||
| So again, this isn't about white or black. | ||
| This isn't about racism. | ||
| This is about This is all about, it's so politics. | ||
| That's what people need to see about this. | ||
| This is 100% political driven. | ||
| This is to silence conservatives, silence Trump supporters. | ||
| It's not about race. | ||
| If they cared about race, they'd care about racism against whites. | ||
| If they cared about race, they'd listen to the black people that like Trump. | ||
| No, this is a 100% political stunt. | ||
| Absolutely. And I think what it is, is they, like I said before, they know that 2016 was won because of their platforms. | ||
| Because the people, the populist movement, used their voice to get their voice out. | ||
| And they're not going to allow it to happen again in 2018 and 2020. | ||
| I think that what you expressed earlier, this is all just a gauze. | ||
| They're trying to say, oh, we're just banning the Nazis and the white supremacists and all this stuff. | ||
| But in reality, and I hear these stories every single day, it's a grandma from Kentucky who's getting banned. | ||
| It's a Gen Z kid from Pennsylvania who's getting banned. | ||
| It's everyday, normal, average people. | ||
| Facebook is banning over a million accounts a day. | ||
| A lot of people don't know that. | ||
| So I think they're trying to paint this as, oh, we're just getting rid of extremism, when in reality they're using it to silence millions of people. | ||
| Yeah, and I think the purge of Milo is the best example. | ||
| This is why they hate Milo Yiannopoulos so bad. | ||
| They can't call him a Nazi because he's Jewish. | ||
| They can call him racist all day, but he talks about how he actually likes black men as a homosexual. | ||
| Yeah. Is he married? I don't even know. | ||
| But the point is, they don't know what to do because all of the little buzzwords and the little phrases, they don't stick to him. | ||
| So that's why they just erase him. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, it's not a problem. | ||
| But you made an excellent point that hadn't really struck me until you said it. | ||
| Maybe subtly it kind of hit me, but you just jammed it home. | ||
| We used their tools to defeat them. | ||
| I think that that's ultimately what rubs them so, I mean, they must be absolutely twisted up in knots inside to know that their tools led to the defeat of their president or who they thought would be their president. | ||
| Think about it. They had all the data in the world, all of our personal data. | ||
| They had all of the money in the world. | ||
| They had all the elites behind them. | ||
| They had the media. | ||
| Everybody was in their back pocket and they still lost because this was the true will of the people. | ||
| And again, they don't want their platforms to be a tool to continue this revolution, this cultural and political revolution that we're living through right now. | ||
| So I think that we're going to start to see more alternatives like us start to rise. | ||
| And we're going to continue to build for the future of a decentralized Internet where none of these companies, no matter how much money, no matter how much engineering talent they throw at it, no matter how much they lobby, they're not going to be able to stop the decentralized Web, decentralized finance. | ||
| We see Bitcoin exploding now. | ||
| Maybe that's why J.P. Morgan is backing Twitter's. | ||
| so that they can censor all the people talking about Bitcoin, right? | ||
| So I think that this is going to continue as we go forward here, and this censorship is going to, they're going to double down, they're going to triple down on it. | ||
| Well, there's no doubt that they're freaking out because their platforms are being used to promote America first and to promote conservatism. | ||
| And I think that that's ultimately what has them freaking out. | ||
| Andrew Torba, the creator of Gab AI. Get Gab now before they censor you off Twitter and it's too late. | ||
| Andrew, thank you for joining us today. | ||
| Thanks, guys. You know, and it's amazing, too, as Andrew departs. | ||
| You think about Silicon Valley and you think about the West Coast and all the technology and all the breakthroughs that come out of there, yet we can't seem to put out a fire. | ||
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| One of the most advanced technological areas in the history of planet Earth, and just a few miles away, we can't even put out a fire. | ||
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| Alright, we've got loaded phone lines. | ||
| I promise to clear them out by the end of the broadcast. | ||
| But this is big breaking right now. | ||
| Representative Matt Gaetz from Florida, a champion of a patriot, really showing himself to be truly a patriot lately. | ||
| Tweets out, holding a press conference tomorrow alongside eight congressmen calling for investigation on FBI's special treatment of Hillary Clinton. | ||
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| I mean, it's hard. | ||
| It's amazing. But, I mean, these are some of the biggest patriots in Congress now. | ||
| And again, it's hard to... | ||
| It used to be hard to know who the real patriots and who the frauds were, but it's getting easier now because of the Trump test. | ||
| So, wow! What will come of tomorrow's press conference with Matt Gaetz and eight other congressmen calling out the FBI for their special treatment of Hillary Clinton? | ||
| So with that, let's go to Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch, who was on Tucker Carlson last night, a couple other patriots that are able to break through the controlled The control of the news on television talking about the investigation into Hillary Clinton needing to be reopened. | ||
| She and the Attorney General Holder who preceded her are both obviously political and hacks, I think. | ||
| But you would think that the agents who serve underneath him in the FBI Would be non-political and be really worried about basic ethical questions like this one. | ||
| But you don't see that they were. | ||
| This is a leadership. We're getting the top-level emails. | ||
| So as Joe mentioned earlier, the leadership of the FBI was ruined by James Comey and the politics of trying to protect Hillary Clinton. | ||
| The Justice Department and the FBI became arms of the Clinton campaign last year. | ||
| And frankly, it continued into the Trump administration, as we saw with the ambush interview of General Flynn. | ||
| I think there is a significant crisis, not only at the FBI, but at the Justice Department. | ||
| We had this other FBI agent involved in the Clinton email investigation, also involved in the Russia investigation, a key decision-maker in both investigations. | ||
| Both investigations, in my view, have been irredeemably compromised. | ||
| The Clinton investigation needs to be reopened, and the Mueller investigation needs to be shut down until we figure out how badly it's been politicized in the least. | ||
| Where is Jeff Sessions? | ||
| Earth to Jeff Sessions! | ||
| Earth to Jeff Sessions! | ||
| America to Jeff Sessions! | ||
| Where is Jeff Sessions? | ||
| Now here's Congressman Chaffetz on Fox. | ||
| Again, it's just the double standard. | ||
| How Hillary Clinton is able to skate Really begs a litany of questions. | ||
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| How did he justify the FBI's conclusion that she didn't- He doesn't, he doesn't, which makes no sense with Cheryl Mills. | ||
| Not only is she a witness, not only does she have to get an immunity deal, but she's also Hillary Clinton's attorney- Stroke also interviewed Cheryl Mills. | ||
| The American person sitting at home, why do they care about Cheryl Mills and this possible deception and so on? | ||
| Here, pause it right here. | ||
| Just pause it real quick, because this is key, too. | ||
| Peter Stroke interviewed Cheryl Mills, another Clinton operative, another cover-up of Justice. | ||
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| Who is this blonde lady on Fox News? | ||
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| We issued a subpoena on September 15th of this year. | ||
| And these documents that were on Reddit were destroyed four days later. | ||
| I want the FBI to go in and look at that. | ||
| I want Hillary Clinton, if this was just a mistake, why is it that everybody's pleading the fifth and having to get immunity deals? | ||
| I want Hillary Clinton to look in the camera and tell people there's immunity, they're not going to prosecute. | ||
| Tell Congress and tell the American people the truth. | ||
| Right now we can't get to that truth. | ||
| So maybe it's that. | ||
| Maybe that's why Chaffetz decided to end his political career and now try to move into politics. | ||
| My guess is Fox News hires him before the end of next year. | ||
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| He's not a dumb guy. He's a bully and he's a bitch. | ||
| He's a punk. He's a dog. | ||
| He's a pig. And he can suck my f***ing f***. | ||
| He's a con, a bulls*** artist, a mutt. | ||
| I'll meet him in a hotel room every mother f***ing day of the week and give him a Louisville slugger. | ||
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| Dad! | ||
| Pointing what appears to be a water gun, the image of President Donald Trump projected on a white bird, art teacher Pale Modi has now been seen by countless viewers across the internet. | ||
| Yes! I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. | ||
| It's an actor dressed to look just like President Donald Trump as he's assassinated on stage. | ||
| Pictures and video depicting comedian Kathy Griffin holding the bloody decapitated head of President Trump are no joking matter for the Secret Service. | ||
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| Welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| I'm your host, Owen Troyer. | ||
| My guest this segment and the next is Matt Bracken. | ||
| His website, enemiesforeignanddomestic.com. | ||
| Twitter, at mattbracken48. | ||
| And I wanted to get Matt on because what I'm seeing here is a complete deterioration of leftist politics. | ||
| But not just politics. | ||
| Honestly, their mental state is really deteriorating, as we saw in that video. | ||
| But Matt kind of responds to this with a different reaction than myself. | ||
| He responds to it by putting out, hey, look, this is the coup against Trump. | ||
| Let's focus on this. | ||
| Let's not worry about the brain-dead liberals. | ||
| Let's focus on this coup. | ||
| And you're now starting to get a clear picture now, Matt, with stroke coming out and him stroking, if you will, the Democrats into walking away from their crimes but charging Flynn with a lie. | ||
| Matt Bracken, what are you seeing developing right now in the deep state coup against Trump? | ||
| Well, I have to just start with the fact that they totally believed that Hillary would win. | ||
| And as a result, all of their crimes would be continued to be covered up by themselves because they would continue to hold the White House and all the levers of power in justice and at the FBI. It didn't work out. | ||
| And the way that I see it, Comey, who has the most culpability of any of them, Comey went for broke with his old buddy Mueller. | ||
| Between the FBI and DOJ, they put up the four corners of that trap, which is McCabe acting at FBI, acting director, Rosenstein acting at Justice with Sessions out of the way, and Mueller and Comey, the top coordinators of the coup. | ||
| And they think that they have to take Trump out. | ||
| I think they went overboard. | ||
| And now, in retrospect, it looks clumsy, packing their staff with such obvious partisans who couldn't resist sending each other texts and emails, which are now coming out, thanks to Judicial Watch, not the House Intelligence Committee or any of those buffoons. | ||
| But Judicial Watch has actually been prying this thing open. | ||
| Now it's obvious that it's a coup. | ||
| And I think that what we're going to see happen, I was very fascinated to hear Dr. | ||
| P last hour He thinks that Mueller and Trump are in cahoots to get rid of Fredo. | ||
| I just watched The Godfather. | ||
| Fredo, who is Kushner, sending him out, giving him some do-nothing job. | ||
| And then perhaps Trump saying, this is my way to get rid of Kushner. | ||
| I don't see it that way. | ||
| I think that Comey especially is all in on this coup. | ||
| If you go back 22 years, Lynch, Comey, Holder, these guys are dirty up to their necks. | ||
| The way that they do their corruption is that they rotate gigs between being a U.S. attorney, say for the Southern District of New York, where you can defend your Democrat allies, particularly the Clintons, and you can also hammer their enemies. | ||
| You can be an enforcer by being a corrupt U.S. attorney. | ||
| Weissman certainly is in that camp. | ||
| Then in between those gigs, you go to work for Lockheed or HSBC, and you make three or four million bucks a year for a no-show job. | ||
| That's the payola. | ||
| And then eventually you become the FBI director replacing your own buddy, which is very incestuous and dangerous. | ||
| When you have a deputy basically rising to replace his superior, it's a gentleman's agreement that we're gonna hide each other's corruption. | ||
| It's not always that way, but it's very risky. | ||
| Usually you wanna bring in somebody that's got no connection to the previous regime. | ||
| When the director of the FBI is replaced by a pal, It makes me very worried. | ||
| James Kallstrom has a lot of interesting things to say about Mueller's time at FBI. But in particular, Mueller's danger is Uranium One. | ||
| Also, Weissman. | ||
| They're very at risk. | ||
| If this is ever peeled back by a real special counsel or even the Department of Justice, these guys can go to prison. | ||
| $145 million in bribes is not chicken feed. | ||
| And you have to wonder, why did Mueller serve as the cover-up person as FBI director to allow this very corrupt deal to go through? | ||
| So he's all in. | ||
| I compare this to Operation Valkyrie, the World War II coup. | ||
| And we've all seen the movie with Tom Cruise. | ||
| We're in the middle of the coup. | ||
| The trucks are zooming around. | ||
| They've just arrested the SS. But the SS are getting on the phone and saying, is Hitler really dead? | ||
| At this point, one of these coup plotters from my coup trap Is probably wondering if the coup is going to fall apart, just like in Valkyrie. | ||
| And to preserve himself, he may flip. | ||
| He may flip to Sessions. | ||
| He may flip to somebody else. | ||
| He may contact Tenzing, the lawyer, along with the witness, Campbell. | ||
| But the coup right now is in flux. | ||
| It could fall apart. | ||
| Right now, the media is still all in on the coup. | ||
| They don't even know it's a coup. | ||
| They're buffoons. They're just American Pravda newsreaders. | ||
| But the actual coup plotters have to be very worried. | ||
| Every night, Hannity, Tucker Carlson, they're pulling this thing apart. | ||
| And they're getting huge ratings. | ||
| So the fact that you turn over to Pravda on MSNBC or CNN and they're still talking about General Flynn like he's a Russian spy, you know that they're just reading from the script. | ||
| But behind the scenes, the coup is falling apart. | ||
| And I think that we might see some of the coup plotters peel away. | ||
| Now, they won't do it publicly. | ||
| They won't show up on TV tomorrow and say that they're sorry. | ||
| What they'll do is they'll secretly start turning against their friends, recording them, collecting emails, things like that for self-preservation down the road. | ||
| This is a very high-stakes game we're seeing. | ||
| This is a coup against the standing government of the United States. | ||
| And it's falling apart right now. | ||
| And if Trump was indeed working with Mueller for some other agenda, I think that Trump would obviously have had to have known about Mueller and Uranium One and even use that as leverage to get Mueller to work with them. | ||
| But we'll see how that plays out. | ||
| But Jim Jordan today, again, called to launch a special counsel into Uranium One. | ||
| So, I mean, you're talking about how right now, You know, thanks to Infowars and Circa and Tucker Carlson and Judicial Watch and everyone kind of working together and WikiLeaks and Project Veritas, we're starting to put the gears together. | ||
| We basically now ripped the door off of the machine and now we're seeing how the gears work and where they mesh and how it's all clicking together to take Trump out. | ||
| So I guess the question that I'll lead you with as we go to break here on the other side is, what does Trump do or what can the American people do To put a stick in those gears to stop those gears and essentially to get the whole thing to blow up and fall apart. | ||
| But you're thinking that perhaps because it's already falling apart by its own accord, that one of the gears is going to flip itself and turn itself over and perhaps exposing the whole thing. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if anything in American history has ever gone down like this, trying to take a president out with fake news. | ||
| But that's what we're dealing with. | ||
| Matt Bracken is our guest. We're going to get more of his expertise on the other side. | ||
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| I'm your host, Owen Schroer. | ||
| Matt Bracken is our guest, and we are breaking down the coup against President Trump right now. | ||
| Matt Bracken has exposed the gears and layers of this coup that is trying to eventually entrap President Trump. | ||
| Meanwhile, the fake media wants to obsess over Mike Flynn. | ||
| That has nothing to do with Russia and nothing to do with any illegal or treasonous activity. | ||
| It really shows you how desperate they are right now that they'll take any morsel. | ||
| But Matt, what is the... | ||
| What is the stick, or what is the pull, or what can we do to stop these gears from shifting? | ||
| I mean, obviously stopping the entire machine and the apparatus would be one thing, but it doesn't appear Trump wants to do that. | ||
| So, I mean, is there any way to stick something into these gears to stop this thing from going and having it explode? | ||
| Or is that just gonna happen inevitably? | ||
| Well, Trump won't fire Mueller. | ||
| To do that would just be to play to the Democrats and play to impeachment. | ||
| I think that the guy to watch is Flynn. | ||
| When he was ambushed, interviewed, that was probably the high watermark of the coup, when they felt the most powerful and he felt the most powerless. | ||
| This guy's not a coward. | ||
| He's not like a cut-and-run, sniveling little bureaucrat. | ||
| He's a general. He's a defense intelligence agency guy. | ||
| I think that he feels terrible about making a deal with these scummy people. | ||
| But now that he knows that the guy that Ambush interviewed him, Schrock, was operating under false pretenses without any reason to interview him at all about actions that took place after the election, | ||
| which he did. Remember, they got him on the FBI's catch-all, 1001, lying to the FBI. People, remember, if the FBI ever comes to your door or to your office and says, sit down, we'd like to talk to you about your colleague that you knew last year or at your last job, this is called pretexting. | ||
| If you lie to the FBI, you'll go to jail if they want you to go to jail, or they'll just use it as leverage to bend you, to turn you against one of your friends. | ||
| But if the FBI lies to you, it's called pretexting. | ||
| So they didn't come to General Flynn and say, General Flynn, we're going to set you up for a felony. | ||
| You're going to say something that's going to put you at risk. | ||
| What they say is, we'd like to talk to you about some other colleague. | ||
| We have some questions about Somebody in the campaign, he sits down in good faith, sure, no problem. | ||
| Over the course of a couple of hours, if you're talking to the FBI, and they say, well, did you meet so-and-so last Tuesday? | ||
| And you say, yeah. | ||
| And they know that it was really on Wednesday. | ||
| That's why they asked you if it was Tuesday, and you didn't remember. | ||
| So you said, yeah. You just lied to the FBI. Now, if it's Rice or Huma Abedin or Hillary Clinton, then they don't even take notes. | ||
| They don't record it. It's all part of the cover-up. | ||
| Yeah, it's all off record. | ||
| They don't have the transcriptions of any previous conversations. | ||
| They haven't been spying on all their conversations. | ||
| Right. And here are the two ways that you pull the wheels off of this machine. | ||
| Number one, Joe Sixpack intuitively understands that selling 20% of America's uranium to the Russians for $145 million It's worse than an FBI 1001 process crime lying to the FBI, | ||
| which had nothing to do with anything, which was part of an ambush interview, a pretext, fake interview, turned into an excuse to railroad somebody. | ||
| That was their high watermark. | ||
| I'll bet you right now, tonight, Flynn is thinking about completely tearing up the steel and saying, basically, screw you. | ||
| Come and get me. | ||
| America's on my side. | ||
| Because America gets that it was so unfair that the same guy, Schrock, Flynn didn't know this guy Schrock from Adam when he walked into the office and said, I'd like to talk to you about a colleague of yours, not even saying you are the subject of this interview. | ||
| He had no idea. | ||
| Now he knows that he's been completely scammed and screwed. | ||
| I call him on my chart, I call him the assassin. | ||
| He comes into the office. | ||
| And let's be clear, Strzok is the assassin because he was in charge of Hillary Clinton's investigation, email investigation. | ||
| He questioned Hillary Clinton. | ||
| He questioned Jane Comey. He questioned Cheryl Mills. | ||
| All criminals, we all know they lied, but they don't get the hit. | ||
| Flynn gets the hit. But Strzok is careless, and he leaves an email trail. | ||
| So they were overconfident. | ||
| At the high watermark of the coup, they probably thought that their momentum was irreversible. | ||
| They're being validated on Mainstream news constantly as if there's just a tidal wave coming down against Trump, yet they don't see how weak their position really is. | ||
| Because America understands that Hillary Clinton selling 20% of our uranium bomb making material to the Russians for $145 million. | ||
| If I was Trump, every tweet would include, is that worse than selling our uranium to the Russians for $145 million in bribes? | ||
| No matter what they asked me, I would turn it around to that. | ||
| Oh, you mean lying to the FBI like Rice, Abedin, and Hillary did and had nothing happen? | ||
| They didn't even record or take notes? | ||
| But folks, just remember, never talk to the FBI. I'm sorry to say I used to have a lot of respect for these guys, and I'm sure there's some fine special agents down there. | ||
| Something I learned from listening to Kalstrom, James Kalstrom, former deputy or assistant director of the FBI. In his tenure, Mueller partisanized, politicized the FBI. What he did was he made it so that you had to come to FBI HQ and do a tour of duty at headquarters in order to become That's the guy that runs a field office. | ||
| Before Mueller, you could do your entire career outside of FBI headquarters, just rising on FBI traditions, integrity, the book, using the book. | ||
| After Mueller, if you didn't come to FBI headquarters, it was like in the military as a major, you're not promoted, you have to get out. | ||
| So if you don't do a headquarters tour, you're basically forced out of the FBI. Where you'll never get a promotion. | ||
| So everybody that now becomes a SEC has to come to Washington, kneel before the director, and basically swear to be a brown noser. | ||
| To have loyalty to the director and the headquarters. | ||
| And so essentially now they're a swamp creature, now they're on the swamp team, and they can't get off the team. | ||
| We only got a minute left. I'm just curious your thoughts. | ||
| How is it that struck, stroke struck, Doesn't recuse himself in this investigation, still is on the team when he got caught sending anti-Trump text messages to his mistress. | ||
| How come that just gets completely whitewashed, nobody talks about that? | ||
| They are talking about it, and the wheels are coming off of this coup. | ||
| And one thing real quick I'd like to talk to, when they're looking for a new planet, they look for the planets that they can see having wobbles that are only explained by the gravitational pull of the unseen planet. | ||
| The unseen planet gravitational pull in this equation is blackmailed. | ||
| You look at Sessions, he reminds me of a POW blinking out torture or blackmailed. | ||
| The FBI, remember, fully weaponized, politicized. | ||
| You think they don't have the list of all the congressmen that paid for the sexual harassment, along with every college DUI, every Misdemeanor, domestic abuse. | ||
| You think the FBI doesn't have that? | ||
| When you say, how come these Republican congressmen? | ||
| They control the committees. | ||
| Why don't they just say, we're having Strzok come in tomorrow, or we're gonna have him dragged up here. | ||
| Why don't they do that? | ||
| Because I think that a significant part of Congress, doesn't matter about the Democrats, Because they're on the team. | ||
| They're on the coup team. | ||
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| It's time to take a stand. | ||
| This is The War Room with Owen Schroer at Infowars.com forward slash show. | ||
| Welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| Joining us now is Dr. | ||
| Steve Pachinik. You can find all of his work at stevepachinik.com. | ||
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All the news he covers, the geopolitics he gets into. | |
| And specifically, I wanted to get Steve on to talk about this story that came out of The Intercept. | ||
| Two days ago, headline reads, Trump White House weighing plans for private spies to counter deep state enemies. | ||
| It's suggesting that under the control essentially of CIA Director Mike Pompeo, that working with Blackwater founder Eric Prince, they're going to be forming a team of spies to counter essentially the deep state spies trying to remove President Trump from office. | ||
| Dr. Patanek, thank you so much for joining us today. | ||
| I'll get right into it with you. | ||
| Have you heard of this story? Does it make sense to you? | ||
| What do you think about this? There's an old Mad Magazine concept of the spy versus spy. | ||
| The spies in white hat versus the spies in black hat. | ||
| It's an interesting concept. | ||
| I don't know Prince. | ||
| I've met him once. With a group of intelligence operatives and he explained to us how, there it is. | ||
| You got it. And it's Antonio Prohias. | ||
| He's a Cuban who created that cartoon series. | ||
| I think we're getting into that. | ||
| I think it's an interesting idea. | ||
| The deep state entails probably 16 to 18 different intelligence networks. | ||
| The issue of Blackwater and Prince, he came out of the SEALs. | ||
| By the way, he was not a great SEAL himself. | ||
| He set up Blackwater, and then they went into Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere, and they changed their name to Xi in academia or academy. | ||
| The private spies are... | ||
| I'm hesitant because I'm not very impressed with Many of the spies. | ||
| We have too many spies as it is right now. | ||
| We have thousands and thousands of people who have top secret clearance. | ||
| I myself, no matter what I did, I refused top secret clearance or any clearance for about 30 to 40 years for the simple fact that these clearances don't mean very much. | ||
| And the compartmentalization of the spy business hasn't been very effective. | ||
| In fact, most of the spying business is too fragmented And having the DNI created over all of them makes it even more of a problem. | ||
| Oh, five million security clearance. | ||
| There you are. I think it's totally absurd. | ||
| I think we're over-manned and really understaffed intellectually. | ||
| I don't think most of our spies are really trained very well. | ||
| I think the initial concept of psychology and psychological insights into nation states and individuals The basis of the OSS and then the basis of the CIA where I was trained at MIT was a far more effective procedure than somebody who's in the technical aspects. | ||
| That doesn't mean that you don't need people who work in cyber terrorism and who work at the NSA, but the NSA has really By the way, Doc, it's Alex Jones. How are you doing? | ||
| Fine. Who's there? | ||
| Who's there? It's Alex. I'm just popping in for a minute because I was walking by and listening. | ||
| I was just going to say, what do you make of it all coming out that they illegally surveilled the White House, Flynn, everybody to get this when they denied it previously. | ||
| That's interesting. And then separately, where'd you get that wooden American flag I see right there? | ||
| Well, it's a locally made thing. | ||
| It's by a guy named Collins at Ace Hardware. | ||
| And he built it for us specifically for the show. | ||
| And I'm very proud of him. | ||
| We're in North Central Florida. | ||
| Really? He built that specifically for the show? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. You know, we feel that the show is important, and I think it's important to have something behind me that represents some of my feelings about the country and make it a local. | ||
| Well, that's a weird twist of fate, because I got told by two guys who were there when Trump first got in, like the first day, went over to the CIA headquarters, the second day, and he gave them all out American flags carved in wood like that. | ||
| And I saw a picture of one that looked just like that. | ||
| So I thought, did Trump give Pachenik that flag? | ||
| No, I don't think Trump even knows me, but I'd be very honored. | ||
| No, we actually made that flag. | ||
| Well, it looks good, and it's crazy that it's there, because I saw him giving some school kids one, too. | ||
| I think that's his thing. So you have good taste. | ||
| Hey, but separately... What do you make of the whole Mueller thing and all this? | ||
| Because the wheels have come off, in my view, where they're all working for Hillary and they're involved with Russia. | ||
| I mean, should Trump fire Mueller or just let them run their course and discredit themselves? | ||
| I'm going to watch. I'm out of here. | ||
| Sorry to pop in the war room. | ||
| I think it's a very good question. | ||
| But as you know, I'm kind of a psychological bull player. | ||
| And what I believe is I'm going to do a side shot, a pocket shot. | ||
| And what I mean by that is I think Mueller, although you and I agree that Mueller should have been fired, is really going to remain there and is working with Trump. | ||
| And this is my supposition. | ||
| And the reason for that is that Mike Flynn's son was given immunity. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| As I understand it, there is no prosecution of the son who should have been prosecuted and in turn, Mike Flynn will take the burden of responsibility and he will negotiate his term and conviction down to probably a fine of a quarter of a million dollars. | ||
| In return for which he will name probably Jared Kushner, who I've said all along, as the individual who gave him the authority to do some illegal actions. | ||
| And I think this is the way Trump, and why I call it a side shot, this is the way that Trump has to deal with his own son-in-law without looking at him directly and firing him. | ||
| Ironically, despite The Apprentice Show, I had a feeling in a sense that Trump has always had a problem firing people who are very close to him. | ||
| And that's not atypical of somebody like Trump. | ||
| Even though they come across with a lot of bravado and they're boisterous, underneath they have a certain fear of really confronting somebody and firing him. | ||
| Jared should have left a long time ago. | ||
| Jared is a problem. | ||
| He's a problem now with this issue of Jerusalem. | ||
| He was a problem before when he allied himself with the young king of Saudi Arabia. | ||
| That didn't work. He's just a disaster. | ||
| And John Kelly Has correctly put him into the West Wing all by himself because Jared came across as the man who could do everything and turned out to be the young boy who could do nothing. | ||
| And that was kind of expected by me. | ||
| I mean, he was not one of the brightest guys. | ||
| He's never been that bright. | ||
| He's never had to work for anything. | ||
| He never served our country. | ||
| He never really had to build a company. | ||
| And instead, his father had to pay Harvard $2.5 million to put him into Harvard. | ||
| And even his Hebrew high school, Fish, which is an Orthodox Hebrew high school, said this is not a stellar candidate. | ||
| In short, translated means this is not a very bright guy. | ||
| And to be an Orthodox Jew and go around and make believe that you have all this wisdom or you perceive yourself to be wise is a very dangerous arrogance. | ||
| And that arrogance carried over into policies that don't really work. | ||
| And it's going to be a real problem in the Middle East. | ||
| I want to get into more of that on the other side. | ||
| But real quickly, I want you to expand on something in the last 60 seconds here. | ||
| You said that you believe Trump is working with Mueller. | ||
| Do you mean that you think that this whole thing of Mueller seemingly going after everything on the Trump team is a ruse and that really he's trying to drown out the actual rats in the swamp? | ||
| Or what did you mean exactly by that? | ||
| Well, what I meant was I think there's a – what I'm saying is it's a side pocket deal. | ||
| What I think Trump has done with Mueller is to allow Mueller to go after the only person he needs to really go after, which is his son-in-law Jared Kushner, which he can't do. | ||
| Because Flynn was ordered by Kushner to do certain illegal activities prior to the election. | ||
| That's what I mean. | ||
| And there is a certain kind of quiet collusion between Mueller and Trump. | ||
| Otherwise, Trump would have fired him a long time ago. | ||
| And the reality is, and it's not brought up, is that Mueller did give Flynn's son immunity and is not going to prosecute him. | ||
| That is the key to this element. | ||
| And that's why Alright, we're going to break. | ||
| When we get back, we're going to expand on that and talk about Trump. | ||
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| The War Room. | ||
| All right, Steve Pachenik is our guest here. | ||
| Welcome back to the War Room. I'm the host Owen Troyer. | ||
| President Trump declares Jerusalem the capital of Israel today, and it has a lot of people freaking out, of course. | ||
| You cannot, how dare you say Israel is the capital of Jerusalem, or excuse me, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. | ||
| You're going to upset all of the loving, peaceful, extremist Muslims and all of the Palestinians. | ||
| But it is an interesting situation. | ||
| There's all kinds of different sides to this story. | ||
| Dr. Bochenek, what are your takes on Trump announcing Jerusalem as the official capital of Israel? | ||
| I think that's a mistake. | ||
| The reason he made that announcement is simply because he promised Bibi he would do it, and it gives Bibi cover in order to do all kinds of things. | ||
| Basically, that announcement It's detrimental primarily to the IDF, to the young people who serve in the Israeli Defense Force. | ||
| And they know that when they have to go into the streets now, Gaza, West Bank, and elsewhere, they will be targeted. | ||
| And this is a very dangerous statement, simply because We know that all the major organizations in the Israeli government are located in Jerusalem, but the notion that Jerusalem is the official capital of Israel, | ||
| it really was putting We're good to go. | ||
| The court, including Menachem Begin, whom I knew informally, gave up land to that. | ||
| Sadat gave up the notion of war. | ||
| In the case of declaring Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, Bibi gives up nothing. | ||
| He never has given up anything. | ||
| And Bibi has been in trouble for a long time. | ||
| And from my point of view, it's time that Bibi has to go. | ||
| The issue of the American Embassy, it's already there for the most part, and most of the Muslims know this, the Israelis know this, but it places a lot of our allies into a very deep state of danger, in particular We're good to go. | ||
| And it puts a cleavage in between the Sunni Muslims among themselves and Israel and the United States. | ||
| Turkey, who has been an ally of ours, God knows, for decades, has put Erdogan in a very awkward position where he needs to basically say, look, I can't continue my detente with Israel because one of the understandings that we have is that Israel has not stated outwardly that That Jerusalem is the capital. | ||
| He didn't need to do that. | ||
| I don't think it changes the dynamics of the peace process in any positive way. | ||
| I think it's, again, the product of people who've never been in the field, Steve Miller or Jared Kushner or the bankruptcy lawyer. | ||
| And it shows an incredible amount of audacity and very little understanding of the different dynamics that's involved. | ||
| For the most part, I would say on the side of the covert part, it's probably a cover for Bibi and the new prince of Saudi Arabia to work together and for America to ship over $100 billion worth of arms to Saudi Arabia and allow Israel and Saudi Arabia to develop a strong attire against Iran. | ||
| But it's not a smart strategic move. | ||
| Which, of course, was the deal that Trump cut months ago with the weapons going to Saudi Arabia, something that hasn't actually happened. | ||
| If I'm understanding it correctly, they made the deal, but it hadn't actually happened yet. | ||
| And this may be kind of the spark plug to initiate that. | ||
| And the one thing to me was... | ||
| I don't know how this really impacts me. | ||
| Perhaps I'll figure that out in the future, or maybe we'll start to see how this impacts America. | ||
| But one thing about this that I thought was certainly not accurate, at least in the way it's being portrayed, this was the headline on Vice News, just one example. | ||
| Trump pleasing his base could spark a firestorm in the Middle East. | ||
| So they're basically saying that Trump moving the Capitol... | ||
| I don't find that true. | ||
| I don't remember Trump's base chanting, Jerusalem is the capital! | ||
| Jerusalem is the capital! | ||
| No, I remember them chanting, lock her up and build that wall. | ||
| Actually, you're quite right. | ||
| I don't remember that. | ||
| I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| That was not an issue in the campaign. | ||
| And he made a statement to a group of Jewish individuals, none of whom I know really served our country. | ||
| They were all neocons. | ||
| And many of them have dual citizenship, like Michael Chertoff with Israel and the United States. | ||
| But that was not an issue in the campaign. | ||
| And if they are implying that the base is Christian evangelicals, I don't remember any of them saying that we had a state as Jerusalem as the capital. | ||
| So that was not the basis. | ||
| So when you're right on. Yeah, so again, and I just want you to kind of reiterate what you stated before, but in a more precise manner. | ||
| So who does this move please? | ||
| Who does Trump make this move to please? | ||
| What chess piece is on the board is he trying to move around here? | ||
| Jared was building an alliance with the young prince of Saudi Arabia, who has now taken what basically was a coup and made himself the principal minister of defense and the heir to the present king. | ||
| At the same time, the weapons have been promised to Saudi Arabia, and then Saudi Arabia and Israel want to make a closer alliance, which they've always had, by the way. | ||
| This has not been a great secret in the State Department, but they've made a closer alliance so that they can confront Iran. | ||
| And this is all about an issue of trying to drive Iran out of the Middle East. | ||
| And it won't work. | ||
| Iran has been there for centuries. | ||
| Iran is Persian. | ||
| It's not really Arab in any way. | ||
| It's a Shiite country that hasn't in any way attacked America. | ||
| I mean, basically, when we went into Iraq, they said, look, you're making a big mistake, and we're going to take over Iraq. | ||
| When we went to Syria, we made a big mistake. | ||
| They took over Syria. | ||
| They took over the eastern part of Saudi Arabia. | ||
| They took over part of Bahrain. | ||
| And now they're in conflict in Yemen with Saudi Arabia. | ||
| So this is a continuation of a proxy war. | ||
| We don't need to overtly be involved in this proxy war. | ||
| We were supplying actually both sides. | ||
| But at this particular point, Trump thinks he's going to supply the Saudis. | ||
| There isn't money there for that $100 billion weaponry. | ||
| And I don't think the Saudis are going to continue with the young prince. | ||
| If I were a colonel in Saudi Arabia, I'd have a military coup within 48 hours and get rid of that prince. | ||
| Because he's totally uneffectual and totally disastrous. | ||
| For the young people of Saudi Arabia, they have 40% unemployment. | ||
| They have a 50% problem in drugs and addiction to high... | ||
| High addictive drugs. | ||
| And they have to change from a Saudi or a Wahhabi strict religion into a more modern age. | ||
| And he can't do that. He's just as grandiose as Jared is and is inexperienced. | ||
| But there'll probably be a military coup somewhere in Saudi Arabia. | ||
| Final discussion here in this segment before we move on, Steve. | ||
| You mentioned Yemen, which to me right now it looks like Libya and Yemen are both destabilizing as Syria seems to be stabilizing now. | ||
| What do you make of that? Well, when you hit it on the head, what happened over the years, and you just said it correctly, I had warned against going into Syria. | ||
| As I said before, I'd been in Syria prior to this. | ||
| I warned our CIA not to go in. | ||
| And of course, this was the brilliant idea of Hillary Clinton and Benetta and Petraeus to go in and destabilize Libya. | ||
| Well, this is the price that we paid. | ||
| We lost Libya. We lost Iraq. | ||
| We lost Syria. | ||
| The fact that we lost Syria is done in a very elegant way because the Syrians and the Iranians hadn't gloated over their notion that they won and they beat us. | ||
| And that was predictable. | ||
| So what will happen there is Russia will act as a mediator between the United States, Germany, Turkey, the Syrians, and various elements of the Kurds. | ||
| And that will be a successful outcome because Putin Really understands the dynamics of the different people. | ||
| In terms of the Middle East, and with this pronouncement, it puts Putin on a notice that we have a little problem here and he's going to have to work harder because he has to work with Erdogan. | ||
| And he and Erdogan have to work with the Iranians to make sure that they keep the whole place safe. | ||
| Unfortunately, again, the young team... | ||
| All right, Dr. Prochenek, great stuff as usual. | ||
| I hope you can join us again as this international geopolitics continues to get crazier. | ||
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| He's pounding down, loaded up and trucking. | ||
| Are we going to do what they say can't be done? | ||
| I think the top's doing it. | ||
| They said you could never get a quarter of 3% GDP growth. | ||
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| They said you could never repeal Obamacare and cut taxes. | ||
| Did that today too, didn't he? | ||
| Well, we almost had Hillary Clinton, didn't we? | ||
| We had a bunch of brainwashed, soul-sucked fools in this country that really fell for the garbage that Hillary Clinton was selling. | ||
| And of course, the entire deep state establishment thought she was going to win too, and they could continue their cover-up of their crimes, but all of that happened. | ||
| But here's Millie Weaver reminding us how Hillary almost scrooged Christmas. | ||
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You're moving forward into the mind of a creature deranged, full of insanity. | |
| You're crossing over into the Hillary Clinton zone. | ||
| I'm scheming up a dictation. | ||
| Just like the ones now used to know. | ||
| Where the guns are taken. | ||
| Free speech forsaken. | ||
| To see vaccines forced on all. | ||
| I I'm dreaming of a red nation. | ||
| With every order that I give, may you offer your children and rise. may you offer your children and rise. | ||
| As the blood of a ring to Mithras tonight. | ||
| Hi, I'm Hillary Clinton and I'm running for President of the United States of America. | ||
| Vote for me because I'm a woman, and I'm gonna be handing out free healthcare, free college, and free gender reassignment surgeries. | ||
| Because, heck, let's just have a free-for-all. | ||
| You're a mean one, Miss Clinton. | ||
| You're a mean one, Miss Clinton. | ||
| You really like to steal. | ||
| You're the ugliest in your caucus. | ||
| You're as charming as a medium. | ||
| Miss Clinton, you're older than a nana, with a heart made of steel. | ||
| You're a traitor, Miss Clinton. | ||
| Clinton. You push for gun control. | ||
| Your family's full of liars. | ||
| You've satanically sold your soul, Ms. | ||
| I would have got away with it too if it weren't for Alex Jones and that meddling Infowars crew. | ||
| Absolutely spectacular work there from Millie Weaver as Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I almost don't want to compliment Millie on how well she played the role. | ||
| I almost don't want to let her know how good that was. | ||
| But folks, share that video. | ||
| Share that video. That is good, funny Christmas entertainment and also patriotic in nature. | ||
| Great work from Millie Weaver. On the other side, Paul Nealon and Shiva Ayyadurai. | ||
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| Infowars.com forward slash show. | ||
| Let's make talk radio great again. | ||
| This is the War Room. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| If you are a regular audience member of The War Room here, live, 3 to 6 p.m. | ||
| Central at warroom.show, infowars.com slash show, you know that I regularly visit with Paul Nealon and that I regularly visit with Dr. | ||
| Shiva Ayyadurai, both running for Congress here in 2018. | ||
| And it was just the other day when I, I think it was last week or so, when I had both of them on, and then someone had a great idea. | ||
| Why don't you get both of them on at the same time? | ||
| So that's what we did. | ||
| And now Shiva and Paul both join me now. | ||
| Guys, thanks for joining me. Great to be here. | ||
| Thanks for having me. Alright, so this is going to be fun. | ||
| Obviously, the big story right now, guys, has to be these tax cuts. | ||
| The biggest cut coming to corporations going from 35% to 21%. | ||
| But there's a lot of other ripples in this deal, such as kind of a repeal of Obamacare. | ||
| It's going to expose the high tax rate of states like New York and California. | ||
| Sheba, let's start with you. You're out there on the East Coast. | ||
| What are you hearing right now about the tax bill? | ||
| What's local media reporting? | ||
| What do you think about this, Shiva Ayyadurai? | ||
| Well, Owen, you know, the traditional sort of liberal establishment obviously will attack this tax bill, saying it hasn't done enough. | ||
| But one of the key things that I like about it is particularly the lowering of the corporate tax for small businesses or LLCs. | ||
| You know, typically the pass-through income on those businesses, like if you're a startup company, I think that's extremely valuable because it's going to really drive innovation. | ||
| It's really going to support small businesses, starting up small businesses, and supporting their local innovation. | ||
| Ultimately, in the United States, we have anywhere between 15 to 20 small businesses. | ||
| That's what really drives innovation and growth. | ||
| The other side of this is in Massachusetts, Elizabeth Warren's policies, which supported Dodd-Frank, actually destroyed over 1,200 community banks across this country. | ||
| And community banks are really the fuel that supports small businesses. | ||
| So that still needs to be addressed. | ||
| And Dodd-Frank never addressed that. | ||
| But I think the whole notion of really supporting small businesses is extremely favorable in this bill. | ||
| Yeah, and especially even with the big corporations getting that tax cut, the hope is that manufacturing comes back, more jobs come back. | ||
| You know, Paul, one of your biggest campaign messages has been to cut taxes. | ||
| You've been all about cutting taxes. | ||
| You tweet about it all the time. | ||
| This has been one of your strongest points. | ||
| What are your takeaways from the tax bill that got passed today? | ||
| Well, I think Dr. | ||
| Shiva hit really on the head of a good point. | ||
| Equalizing small businesses with large businesses is a very, very critical piece of it. | ||
| This tax cut doesn't go far enough to motivate multinationals, American corporations who have factories in China to repatriate those jobs back to the United States. | ||
| That would need to be somewhere 15% or lower in order for that to happen. | ||
| But Trump could fix that with a And I really strongly believe in the scaled tariff concept, which basically says if somebody is manipulating their currency or they're otherwise waging economic warfare against the United States, tariffs are a very useful way to do that. | ||
| And the history of the Republican Party is protecting American jobs, as opposed to, let's say, NAFTA. And in my book, Wage the Battle, I talk about The terribleness of Trans-Pacific Partnership. | ||
| And if you look at these huge trade deals, I'll start with one. | ||
| In the 1980s, we passed a free trade agreement with Israel. | ||
| It was 15 pages long, roughly. | ||
| And fast forward a decade, NAFTA, 1700 pages. | ||
| Fast forward two more decades, Trans-Pacific Partnership, if they had got it through, would have been 5,500 pages. | ||
| And I'm glad that Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin said, I'm not going to vote for this unless they equalize small business and big business. | ||
| And that was extremely important. | ||
| And the reason he did that is because he's run businesses like me. | ||
| I ran Fortune 500 businesses around the globe. | ||
| I shut down two Mexican factories and one Canadian factory and bought all those jobs back to the United States. | ||
| And you know, those jobs are still here. | ||
| I've saved failing businesses. | ||
| There's a business in North Carolina that was closing down in 2005. | ||
| Paul, while you're talking about this, and I want to hear from Shiva too because he has experience too, specifically though, talk about while you were starting those businesses then with the current tax structure versus what you would have been experiencing, say, doing that in 2018 with the new tax structure. | ||
| Well, one of the big things, Owen, is I run right now three different companies. | ||
| They're S-Corps or they're LLCs. | ||
| All of this will basically benefit from this tax structure. | ||
| The key thing is most small businesses were not hiring. | ||
| Basically, we were doing a lot of things because the amount of money that was being taken away from us to essentially not hire people on W-2s, for example, right? | ||
| Because you're not incented to do that and give benefits, etc. | ||
| This is one of the most critical things. | ||
| The related thing to this as a small business person is the immigration process. | ||
| The American worker has been completely devastated by the policies of the liberal establishment over the last 30, 40 years, which has essentially incented people to get people in on H-1Bs, which has essentially supported the hiring of illegal aliens. | ||
| And using that group of people to support votes. | ||
| And that's why the Democrats really like many of the immigration sanctuary city policies. | ||
| And this is concomitantly tied to tax policy, is how we deal with immigration. | ||
| So I think the key thing is when you really lower the tax structure for SMBs, what I call small-medium businesses, you're really initiating people to start hiring. | ||
| You're starting to support people to start reinvesting. | ||
| It really does reinvigorate the economy. | ||
| And that's what we really need to do, because ultimately, it's innovation is what drives the economy. | ||
| All the businesses that I've started, Owen, they've actually come out of things that I've created, invented, you know, be it at MIT externally, and then taken to market, being a practitioner, taking those products to actually be used by people. | ||
| And that's a very, very difficult process. | ||
| One thing is to be a mad scientist, you know, inventing something. | ||
| The other thing is to take those products, hire salespeople, hire people to push your product out there. | ||
| And tax policy significantly supports that. | ||
| And I think to Paul's point, you know, obviously, you know, the 15%, you know, many of these countries move their money abroad because the incentives they have, particularly on dividend payouts. | ||
| You know, the taxes are much, much lower on when you do dividends in other countries, like particularly Ireland. | ||
| To lower that to below 15%, I think, is also the right direction at that par because that incents people to also repatriate their money back. | ||
| Do you concur, Paul, that this is going to ease a lot of stress on small businesses to expand? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| It will absolutely do that. | ||
| The question becomes, okay, this is a tax cut for businesses, and I do believe that it will create jobs. | ||
| The thing that it's not, though, is... | ||
| Tax reform. | ||
| Because the tax code, they started with, I want to say, 72,000 pages. | ||
| It's longer. And the way we know it's longer is because if it were shorter, they would be telling us, they would be screaming it from the mountains that, look, we took this from 72,000 pages down to 50,000, 20,000. | ||
| They did none of that. It's probably 80,000 or 82,000 pages now. | ||
| And What you see the picture of there is Trump cutting regulations from agencies. | ||
| Yeah, and this is something he does a lot with optics, with these regulations and stuff, where he just stacks the paper up on a desk. | ||
| It's awesome. He said, I will cut two regulations for every one new regulation. | ||
| And it ended up being 22. | ||
| Yes, he's up to 22 to 1. | ||
| And that is in Congress. | ||
| The reason Trump had to do that and the reason the administration has to do that is because Congress outsourced their role to the administration. | ||
| They basically passed so many laws and so many things that give special interest money. | ||
| Very few large corporations were paying the 39% rate. | ||
| They had loopholes. | ||
| And the reason they put it so high is so that you have to basically pay It's going to be interesting to see how this does play out. | ||
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| It's the most wonderful time of the year. | ||
| With the kids jingle belling and everyone telling you be of good cheer. | ||
| It's the most wonderful time of the year. | ||
| Hard to say it's not the most wonderful time in eight years. | ||
| 10 years, 20 years, I don't know. | ||
| Here we are in the fight for our republic, and we have a president that is actually with us, not out to screw the country over. | ||
| It's really amazing. We are speaking right now with Paul Nealon and Dr. | ||
| Shiva Ayyadurai. Both are going to be running for Congress in the midterm elections. | ||
| Shiva running against Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| Paul running against Paul Ryan. | ||
| And I want to stay with tax cuts here for another segment, guys. | ||
| We're seeing the reaction, well, we saw what the Democrats were doing before the vote today, saying that it's going to kill Americans, these tax cuts, saying it's only for the rich, these tax cuts, going with the same liberal talking points. | ||
| But I want to start with you on this one, Paul. | ||
| This to me was a huge legislative victory for Trump today. | ||
| A huge legislative victory for the Republicans today. | ||
| And I think that more than anything, that's why the Democrats are so upset. | ||
| They didn't want Trump to have any victories. | ||
| They wanted him to go over, and he keeps having these victories. | ||
| So they can't actually attack what's actually in this tax bill, and they really aren't. | ||
| They just kind of have these very shallow arguments. | ||
| I think they're just totally flabbergasted at the victories Trump is having. | ||
| Well, yeah. God bless President Trump. | ||
| I'm thrilled. I do feel like this is a double Christmas with him in office. | ||
| I mean, look at this thing up over my head here that one of the guys in my district made for me, this Trump plaque. | ||
| I mean, look, I'm thrilled with President Trump being out there and decimating the laughter. | ||
| These guys are attacking. | ||
| They're calling everybody Nazis and racists and just everything under the sun because they really have nothing, right? | ||
| They're trying to run actually now on we want more jobs and we want lower taxes and we want to do things for... | ||
| They're basically trying to co-opt Trump's platform. | ||
| They have no good message because now they're blasting... | ||
| Our job creating, they're saying, oh, Obama did all this and Trump's just getting the benefit of it, which is laughable. | ||
| President Obama was driving this country into the ditch, into the sewer in the ditch. | ||
| And luckily, Trump got a hold of the wheel and we're back out on the road again. | ||
| And we're seeing GDP numbers that we could only dream of during COVID. Both really the Bush and the Obama presidency. | ||
| So we are going up and I'm thrilled about it. | ||
| Now Shiva, you actually are going to be running against one of those Democrats that is calling foul over the tax cuts, Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| What about the people in Massachusetts though? | ||
| What has been their response to this? | ||
| What are you seeing locally? Well, it's interesting to ask that, Owen. | ||
| This past weekend, Elizabeth Warren was speaking at Gloucester High School. | ||
| It was one of her quote-unquote open forum town meetings. | ||
| So we're on the ground pretty much every day. | ||
| I'm going to be going on the ground in a few hours. | ||
| So we went to one of the local malls. | ||
| We distributed flyers, and we took our bus up to meet Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| And we gave out our flyers to about 800 people who were leaving her And then one of the police, in fact the police were very supportive of us because a lot of the police are essentially Trump followers. | ||
| So they said, hey you know you guys should go and get a picture with Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| So we waited in line. And the interesting thing was right as we were about to go on the stage, she directed people not to allow us on stage. | ||
| Now, what's fascinating is this was supposed to be an open forum, and I wanted to ask her some questions. | ||
| One of the things during her talk was she talked about- Because she won't talk to you. | ||
| She won't even talk to you, so you gotta slip in at a public forum. | ||
| We're her worst nightmare because the establishment Republicans in the mass GOP, and as you know, we have a fake Trumper here, these guys have no intention of winning. | ||
| So I'm the only guy who actually wants to defeat her. | ||
| So one of the interesting things was when she was talking to this audience of primarily a lot of quote unquote liberal drones, she was talking about how awful this tax cut was. | ||
| So I yelled out, hey, why don't we tax Harvard? | ||
| Now, here's a woman who's part of Wall Street, essentially, because Harvard runs the largest hedge fund, a $45 billion hedge fund, which she's a part of. | ||
| If she benefits from, that's where a salary of $350,000 a year comes from. | ||
| And yet Harvard has not paid a single dollar in tax. | ||
| There's actually a bill in Congress right now, which is in fact to tax essentially universities and their endowments. | ||
| And I'm very supportive of that because the universities like Harvard are essentially running as a fake university, have not paid a single dollar in tax. | ||
| So when you really look at someone like Elizabeth Warren and the policies, they're fundamentally hypocritical policies. | ||
| I talked earlier about Dodd-Frank, which was supposed to really take away power from big banks. | ||
| It actually supported the large banks and took away power from small community banks, destroying essentially 1,200 of them. | ||
| So you go on and on and on down the line, Owen, and essentially what you're looking at is a hypocrisy. | ||
| And I think Trump's getting this tax cut through, lowering these regulations. | ||
| Every day Trump is in office, every day he gets anything through, which the liberal wing of the establishment, as well as the Republican establishment does not want, is a win for this country. | ||
| And it gives us forward momentum. | ||
| So that's why I pointed out the small business tax cut. | ||
| Obviously there's other things that could have been done better, but that is a huge win for America. | ||
| And we need to have this forward momentum for a president who is essentially fighting a massive establishment of Democrats and Republicans who do not want him to succeed at anything, including Paul Ryan up where Paul is. | ||
| Yeah, and I was just going to say that, you know, because, Paul, you're going to be running against Paul Ryan. | ||
| It sounds to me like you want even more tax cuts. | ||
| If you do get in, you'll push for even more tax cuts. | ||
| But, you know, Paul Ryan, to me, I feel like he gets kind of a bailout right now with this tax cut because, you know, here's a guy who failed to get Obamacare repealed all those years he was in office. | ||
| He didn't do anything to push Republicans into repealing Obamacare. | ||
| Now Trump fits it in. | ||
| With this tax bill, with the mandate being repealed essentially, you don't have to pay it. | ||
| Paul Ryan kind of gets a bailout here. | ||
| How are you going to hold his feet to the fire on this? | ||
| Well, that's a great question. | ||
| And the answer is, it had to come out of the Senate. | ||
| Paul Ryan did not stand his ground and say, in this tax cut, we are going to put in there this provision that says we're nuking the individual mandate. | ||
| Paul Ryan didn't do that. | ||
| He waited for the Senate to do something. | ||
| And it really is disingenuous to say, well, you know, we passed this bill before and the Senate didn't pass it. | ||
| That's why I didn't put it in there. | ||
| No, if you are carrying the torch, if you are carrying the burden for the people who elected you, then you keep going back for that fight. | ||
| But Paul Ryan doesn't go back for that fight. | ||
| Paul Ryan doesn't even have the fight. | ||
| And the same thing that's going on with Dr. | ||
| Shiva, and man, I'm telling you, I empathize with your situation. | ||
| I got locked out of an event here in my district by the Republicans. | ||
| They didn't invite me. | ||
| So I paid for my own way, and they emailed me and said, we're going to refund your money because we don't want you coming. | ||
| And do you know that was the best thing? | ||
| Because people in the district, Republicans in the district who said, you know, I wasn't going to vote for Nealon, but now I'm going to volunteer for his campaign. | ||
| They said that because, yeah, look at that, that picture you guys have up there right now. | ||
| It's my lovely wife and I with the governor. | ||
| I mean, I was an absolute supporter of the Wisconsin GOP. I went out and campaigned for these guys. | ||
| And they loved me when I was supporting them. | ||
| That's the amazing thing to me about both of you guys. | ||
| We're about to go to break here. The amazing thing to me about both of you guys is the ground game is strong. | ||
| You're reaching out to the people. | ||
| You're actually out with the voters. | ||
| You're not too high and mighty for them. | ||
| You say, I'm one of you. That's the big difference here. | ||
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| If you watched the speech today on the Hill with the tax cuts, Tim Scott was one of the speakers and one of the men that was complimented by President Trump on his great work. | ||
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| Guys, there was one thing I noticed today while you had all those congressmen and President Trump out on the Hill celebrating the tax bill. | ||
| There felt like a lot of camaraderie, like a lot of patriots that had been in there really trying to fight for this country but have never really been able to get one in. | ||
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| Yeah, I think, Owen, what's happening is within Massachusetts and externally, there's a growth that's explosively growing of this new idea that we need to have a new American Revolution. | ||
| President Trump's win was extremely important, of immense historic value, because what it did was he essentially was a new shot, which I've said before, That was shot like in Lexington, which essentially was a necessary disruption, which has enabled people like Paul and I and others to start coming together. | ||
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| Forget which party that they're labeled on. | ||
| I'm gonna look at, really, at their policies and the rational talk that they do. | ||
| And that's really what's going on, Owen, and it's very, very exciting. | ||
| For example, we've exposed Elizabeth Warren on the Monsanto issue. | ||
| Typically, that's a lefty issue, but we have all of these people are saying, wait a minute, here's a woman who claims that she's against evil corporations, yet she supported the Monsanto Protection Act, voted for it, and we expose that at a very deep level. | ||
| And then you also, don't sell yourself short here, you also got her a Christmas gift, the Monsanto Death Star. | ||
| You literally bought a star for Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| It's the Monsanto Death Star. | ||
| But do you think that's the biggest difference here, Paul? | ||
| Is the big difference that these new American patriot candidates are not going to the GOP to get into office? | ||
| They're not going to the establishment. | ||
| They're not going to the big donors. | ||
| They're going to the people. | ||
| They're running ground campaigns. | ||
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| I'm sorry. There it is. | ||
| That's awesome. Pocahontas to the power of two. | ||
| And this woman gets away acting as though she's the fighter against big corporations. | ||
| One of the things is when we started attacking her over and over again, Monsanto, finally she gives a speech a week ago claiming she's against a Monsanto-Bayer merger. | ||
| And Tom Fieldpot at the pro-democratic Mother Jones Then gives her coverage, acting as though she's a fighter. | ||
| And this is how these guys work. | ||
| They seek to co-opt the real fighters, like Paul and I and others, with fake fighters like Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| And that's the real fight here, to continually expose them at every step of the way. | ||
| And that's what we're going to be doing. And that's what gets really exciting. | ||
| And I think people are ready for that, Owen. | ||
| And the people are seeing it where you're coming from, Paul? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. In fact, you know, the very interesting thing here is... | ||
| Dr. Shiva is as close to a brother as I could have, right, from another mother. | ||
| I mean, the guy is for lower taxes. | ||
| He's suggesting I'm going to tax a fake hedge fund, also mislabeled as a university. | ||
| The second half of that is he wants to reduce total taxes, which none of this tax reform actually did. | ||
| They didn't cut spending anywhere. | ||
| The federal government is seven times bigger than when FDR was president. | ||
| You mean to tell me they couldn't find anywhere to cut? | ||
| It's absurd. President Trump has suggested places to cut. | ||
| He suggested cutting money to the State Department. | ||
| They didn't want to cut money to the State Department. | ||
| Look, An engineer like Shiva, like myself, like Peter Thiel, like other folks who have created wealth and created new things are hugely positive for this country. | ||
| It doesn't matter that his color is not the same as my color and maybe his religion is not the same as my religion. | ||
| But I'll tell you what, I am not going to, I'm not going to not go after somebody because their color's different or their religion's different. | ||
| If they are going against America first, I'm going to go after them. | ||
| And the big thing here is, it's time to, you know what, you want to drain the swap, it's time to stop electing career politicians. | ||
| And that's why you two are the big difference here. | ||
| You're not career politicians. | ||
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| Final segment here with Dr. | ||
| Shiva Ayyadurai and Paul Nealon both trying to make Congress great again in 2018. | ||
| We're going to get some final thoughts on some other subjects that they want to talk about. | ||
| I know that Dr. | ||
| Shiva is about to talk a little bit about net neutrality, just kind of We're good to go. | ||
| They couldn't tell you any differences between the internet today and when net neutrality was still in place. | ||
| But they don't care that Facebook basically sells all their data or that Facebook censors people like Paul Nealon from posting. | ||
| Those are separate issues. But Shiva, what is on your mind today about net neutrality? | ||
| Yeah, I think, Owen, let me just take one step back. | ||
| I think the key things that are driving this campaign, our campaign, I think very similar to Paul's, is the notion of decentralization of power. | ||
| You know, there are sort of four I's that drive our campaign, you know, innovation, integrity, integration, and independence, declare your independence. | ||
| And those four things are really about decentralizing power away from what, you know, President Eisenhower and later on Senator Fulbright called a military-industrial-academic complex. | ||
| Where I'm located here, you know, right now in Cambridge, the sewer that feeds Washington literally is Harvard University. | ||
| And what I mean by that, if you look at Massachusetts, rated one of the worst in corruption, worst in public infrastructure, three times the national average in opioid addiction. | ||
| And that's brought to you by Mitt Romney, Charlie Baker, both Republicans, establishment Republicans, and Elizabeth Warren, an establishment Democrat. | ||
| All of these people come out of Harvard. | ||
| Again, as we shared earlier, Harvard gets away without paying a single dollar in tax. | ||
| Yet these are the people that talk about centralizing power. | ||
| They're the ones who supported Romney care and Obamacare. | ||
| So what we really need to understand is these are the people who are the twin heads of the establishment. | ||
| So I wanted to give you that background, Owen, because from that background, we can look at net neutrality. | ||
| What's fascinating about net neutrality is the following. | ||
| Over the last year, we've had essentially a ruse, a distraction to put all the attention on the telcos. | ||
| Look, the telcos actually have some level of competition, at least. | ||
| And they're the pipe that lets a content developer reach the consumer. | ||
| But what's fascinating is the insidious nature of this entire discussion that took place is the real evil people, the real people who are against net neutrality are Google and Facebook. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And they're the ones who have acted as though they're the supporters for net neutrality. | ||
| And they've promoted this whole thing to attack the telcos while they hide behind the fact they're the ones who control the gateway to, in fact, even get on, you know, onto the pipe. | ||
| So, you know, 1993, when I started one of my first businesses, you know, you built your local website, you had your local telco and you put it on. | ||
| Well, nowadays, all your content essentially on social media Facebook has monopolized. | ||
| Similarly, Google owns the search engines. | ||
| They own the index. They manipulate all of that. | ||
| Both of these guys are the real criminals that do not want net neutrality. | ||
| And as a deflection, they went after the FCC's quote-unquote protection of telcos. | ||
| That's really not the issue. The telcos actually do compete, but there's really no competitor to Google, and there's really no competitor to Facebook. | ||
| Google needs to be busted up. | ||
| And I'm going to give a talk tomorrow on details of net neutrality. | ||
| But this is the not-so-obvious establishment. | ||
| Google and Facebook are really the main tip of the spear of the establishment, how they control content. | ||
| And if you look at what Google wants to do, they want to do Google Fi right now. | ||
| So they want to vertically integrate, Owen. | ||
| So they want to own... | ||
| Oh, vertical integration. | ||
| Uh-huh. That's what they want to do. | ||
| They want to vertically integrate. | ||
| So the telcos are really their competition, right? | ||
| So they put chains around the telcos while they had a free reign to do what they wanted. | ||
| And because the people in Congress are not engineers, they don't understand what a search index is, they're able to pull the wool over. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa, what does Dr. | ||
| Shiva Ayyadurai know? I mean, it's not like he invented email or something. | ||
| I mean, come on, give me a break here. | ||
| But Paul, you've actually, I mean, Paul got censored on Facebook. | ||
| You know, Paul gets no love from the GOP. I don't know if you want to respond to what Shiva was just talking about here, Paul. | ||
| We got five minutes left if there's something else on your mind here. | ||
| What do you want to close us out with? | ||
| Two things, two things that are really important and they attach to what Shiva said. | ||
| So, we have to build a wall. | ||
| Let's just start right there. | ||
| We've got to build a wall because if you think of how a plumber treats a broken pipe anywhere, they don't grab the mop. | ||
| And that is essentially what we're doing with opioid addiction in this country. | ||
| We're suggesting that we can treat all of these people who are being addicted to opioids. | ||
| Meanwhile, the southern border is wide open. | ||
| If you look at the 2016 DEA report on where all of the opioids are coming from. | ||
| The illegal opioids are coming across the southern border. | ||
| We have got to fix the broken pipe. | ||
| And that's only one of the two pipes that's broken, or one of the many pipes, is having a porous border. | ||
| The other is the illegal manufacturing and selling of opioids. | ||
| We believe that they are intentionally losing opioids to And so we are getting prescription opioids on the street when they shouldn't be on the street. | ||
| And this is an entire insurance scam. | ||
| But that goes back to what you were going to do. | ||
| I'm not meaning to interrupt you, but this is very key to what you're talking about. | ||
| There's also a program where the government buys back Yeah, that's right. I'm sorry, Paul. | ||
| Concomitment with that is you also have the solution that's being promoted for the opioid addiction is methadone. | ||
| Mitt Romney aggregated a bunch of methadone clinics at about $715 million and then flipped them shortly thereafter for $1.2 billion. | ||
| So methadone is also not the solution. | ||
| And you also can look at the other problem is that if you look at the correlation between opioid addiction and the loss of manufacturing jobs in the United States, they're essentially linked because the depression and all the different problems that got caused by that It's also linked. | ||
| Steve Bannon has talked about this. | ||
| And one of the things is, as Paul said, you've got to have strong borders. | ||
| Every human cell has a border around it. | ||
| So anyone who studies biology knows that you have to have strong borders. | ||
| So our cells are racist. Oh my gosh, Shiva Ayode Ray, cells are racist. | ||
| But I think the other thing is that we have to increase the manufacturing jobs in this country. | ||
| We have to bring jobs back home. | ||
| When you don't have jobs, you create these problems also. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that's why Trump thinks bringing these jobs back will help so many of these issues. | ||
| People will get to work, they'll start making more money. | ||
| And going back to the border wall for a second, Paul, I think you're kind of actually hitting on an angle here that I haven't really thought of as far as the wall construction. | ||
| Is kind of getting away from the immigration angle and saying, hey, look, people are just literally carrying burlap sacks of drugs across our border. | ||
| You know, that is a great point. | ||
| Well, they are. And the last thing that I want to touch on is the talk has really been around the net neutrality. | ||
| And I started white knighting free speech because We have seen so many people be thrown off of the de facto public square that I believe we need to have one law that says you cannot censor lawful speech on major social media outlets. | ||
| And what that would do, you know, this is different than if you send a letter to the editor and they pick the best Letters, for whatever reason, whatever their criteria is, you are self-publishing on Twitter or Facebook or YouTube. | ||
| And when they demonetize you or they throttle you or they stifle your speech, if you look on my Twitter feed, I put out a video and I put out a media release that said, here's how this law should work. | ||
| And It's very unobtrusive. | ||
| And I think that anybody who argues against this... | ||
| In fact, I'm going to blow the Libertarian Party to smithereens with this because... | ||
| They're suggesting that, well, they use the my private business meme. | ||
| But in fact, if you look at, there are so many businesses that are already regulated. | ||
| In fact, I've got an oxygen sensor to put on my truck here in a few minutes. | ||
| Not in this outfit, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, you can't even build a warehouse without having to meet a bunch of regulations. | ||
| No, you have hardhats out in construction sites. | ||
| You have all sorts of regulations on food and beverage manufacturers. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you what, Paul, we got to take a break here, but I think that the big link in that case is what they did to Gab. | ||
| As soon as they erased Gab from the marketplace, I think that that's when the case really got hot. | ||
| Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai running against... | ||
| Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai running against the fake Indian. | ||
| Paul Nealon running against Paul Ryan, the swamp creature. | ||
| Thank you guys so much for joining me today. | ||
| That's great stuff, guys. | ||
| This is how we're going to make Congress great again. | ||
| Stop electing career politicians. | ||
| That does it for today. We'll be back tomorrow. | ||
| You stay classy, InfoWarriors. | ||
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