Russell Brand and Megyn Kelly dissect Brand's controversial interview, where he claims Christian exile status while dismissing science regarding gender dysphoria and vaccine-autism links. Brand admits to sex with thousands of women, frames assault allegations as a state conspiracy involving Charlie Kirk, and proposes a 2028 London mayoral run via digital democracy despite lacking residency. Kelly expresses regret over her past anger regarding a minor, prompting Brand to admit consensual sex at age 30 while deflecting from severe coercion claims. Ultimately, the episode exposes Brand's erratic worldview and legal evasion tactics. [Automatically generated summary]
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Turning Christian Nationalists Into Nerds00:07:22
This is propaganda live.
I only suggest how she can have to vote.
What a fantastic and special show it is.
Russell Brand is a famous rapist.
This is just from memory.
You can just go, hold on, but they said that, they said that.
I became a Christian preempting that charges would appear from deep history.
I went to one white party.
What?
What are you talking about?
I'm a migrant right now in the United States.
In fact, I would call myself an exile, a political exile.
Lying, probably true.
Inevitably, I lie sometimes.
I feel that Christ may have had a better vision.
I'm the main problem.
I'm the main problem.
Let's go full screen on Russell.
This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one, Russell Brand.
I'm Al Worth, and every show I go through an episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand in order to dissect and debunk it.
This week, well,.
Russell has been a little bit busy lately, which in turn means I also need to be busy.
In case anyone missed it, Russell did a little press tour from hell to promote his new book, and he was interviewed by Tucker Carlson, Meghan Kelly, and Piers Morgan.
Today I will be dealing with the more softball interviews from Tucker and Meghan Kelly.
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Now then, let's get into this week's show.
First up, we will be dealing with the interview that Russell had with Tucker Carlson, which opens almost exactly the way anyone would expect with a prayer.
I'm ready.
Heavenly Father, thank you for this chance for us to be together where two or more gathered, you are present, Lord.
Can you help us to put aside any prejudices or biases that you might carry into it?
Can you help me, Lord, not to look at Tucker as a person that exists for my benefit or to facilitate me, but to know that he is like me, a person that's broken and that will die one day, and that we're here to love one another and serve one another.
And by the way, we love one another, they will know that we are in you and that you are in us, Lord.
Tucker, you're going to die one day, just so you know.
How much of an asshole do you have to be to say to someone who you've, at this point, supposedly been friends with for years?
Lord, please help me not to see this person as an opportunity for my own benefit.
Like, Jesus Christ.
I mean, it makes sense, right?
Because it is, of course, a friendship almost entirely based on audience capture swinging both directions, right?
It's a conditional, mutually beneficial friendship.
Like, if these two didn't stand anything to gain materially from talking to one another, this would not be happening.
As it is, like, they haven't spoken publicly since mid 2024 until now.
And that's because Russell's new book is the very first book being sold through Tucker Carlson's new publishing venture.
And yeah, so basically, right off the bat, we're leading with bleak cynicism to get this all going.
And from here, we learn why Russell seems to love the Bible so much.
You've been a reader your entire life, even when you were like a dissipate in Hollywood.
You still read a lot.
How is reading the Bible different from reading Evelyn Waugh?
Well, how it's different, firstly, I've not read Evelyn Waugh.
What?
That's your birthright.
Are you kidding?
I'm lazy.
I'm an autodidact.
And like, you know, Woody Allen, he says with the autodidact, superficial, I've never been properly educated.
So everything's thin across the top.
This is the first time I've gone deep into anything.
Yeah, we want to be listening to Woody Allen.
That's where we're at.
Firstly, if anyone ever describes themselves as an autodidact, run in the opposite direction.
Because here's the thing, right?
I am self taught in many disciplines, but never, ever would I describe myself as an autodidact.
Because the only people in the world who call themselves that are absolute bellins.
Most importantly, what we learned from that, however, is that this is the first time Russell has ever materially studied a book in any sort of depth.
So, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, well, okay, it kind of makes sense that you sort of fall in love with the first thing that you actually pay any amount of attention to and like read into properly.
I'm like, oh, yeah, of course, duh.
And I've read a number of the classics out there, and let me tell you, the Bible as literature.
Is absolutely dire.
It was not written to be read, it was written to be dictated, you know, by a priest or whatever.
And so for me, I'm sat there thinking, well, what would happen if we somehow managed to get Russell on a course studying Lord of the Rings?
I mean, if we could present this man with a copy of the Silmarillion and get him to, like, study it with equal vigor, I genuinely wonder if we could turn a Christian nationalist instead into a full fledged nerd, like the kind of person who finds it necessary to learn the elven language that Tolkien created and then be able to speak it fluently.
I mean, the Silmarillion is a tough read, but it's better than the Bible.
You know, more compelling stories, better narrative payoff, and the like.
And maybe if it is just a case of, like, better stories, and that's really what these people are yearning for, maybe that's how we can slowly defang fascists.
Like, hey, forget about that Nazi shit.
Take a look at these dwarves.
Pretty fucking cool, right?
And anytime they start to spout racist shit, you just show them Aragorn saying, my friends, you bow to no one, to the hobbits.
You know, in Return of the King, and then boom!
Like, you just can't be mad after watching that.
You just have to be like, shit, man, coexistence is really fucking cool, isn't it?
Yeah.
Anyway, that's just an idle thought that occurred to me.
And just a minor correction for Tucker here it's Evelyn Waugh that he was on about, the guy who wrote Bride's Head Revisited back in the 1940s.
He was quite celebrated in his day in terms of writing ability.
He also had a reputation for being a deeply unpleasant white supremacist and anti Semite and for being deeply Catholic.
I wonder why Tucker's a fan.
The Harris Imperialism Problem00:04:33
Now we get a bit of a random thought from Russell.
But through his grace and through his greatness, we are participating in something.
But don't you see?
Aren't they even now observing what they are calling large structures?
Aren't they even observing that the cosmos, there's intergalactic influence?
Did you see Randall Carlson ever say that maybe things that are happening on our planet are influenced by other galaxies?
Like it's not because.
You know, cows are farting, or because cars are going too quickly, or not the wrong type.
We're in an intergalactic, eternal, and infinite poem with him.
We've got a new partner.
It's a company called Cowboy Colostrum.
Cowboy Colostrum is part of the infinite poem.
In other news, space stuff is happening, and that's why we don't need to recycle anymore.
Actually, all that climate change that we see around us is space stuff.
I do feel like the climate change deniers are getting increasingly lazy.
You know, we've gone from like, Bullshit clean coal arguments, you know, they were at least trying to like, hey, stuff is happening in space.
So, yeah, us using oil and gas is actually totally cool because space stuff.
In any case, Russell seems on board.
And from here, we get to the first proper segment of the interview discussing Trump and the war in Iran.
I realized that the problem with the kind of imperialism that would have occurred if Kamala Harris had been president.
Is it's globalist and it's bureaucratic and it's managerial, and they use compassion to maximize total control.
I was not, you know, everyone's got 20 20 hindsight, but I like, you know, the videos exist.
I think Trump is an extraordinarily enjoyable public figure.
I think he says what's on his mind in a way that's sort of almost unprecedented.
You've been sucking his dick for years.
He's seeming to become somewhat unpresidential in addition.
What I didn't enter into was the idea that Trump MAGA could be anything other than a bulwark against the annihilation of bureaucratic.
Global imperialism.
That's because I think a personality like that can slow things down.
And I think it's an obstacle.
But the thing that's particularly disheartening about this war, and I know that you spoke about it extensively prior to the election of Trump with the Iranian war, is that this war would be happening if Kamala Harris was president anyway.
That's what, like, that's my very distant, hazy view.
I'm not really in this view.
Is oh, if someone as particular, personal, and extraordinary on the human plane as Trump.
Ultimately ends up doing what the globalist imperialist would have done anyway.
Then, what are we all discussing when we're talking about America First and MAGRA and all of that stuff?
So, what I'm saying there is global bureaucracies is a terrible instantiation of Satan's counterfeit power omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence through technology, absolute ownership.
Okay, so it's Satan.
Groundbreaking stuff there.
Otherwise, how fucking stupid do you need to be to look at Donald Trump and genuinely think, well, How could this man be anything other than a bulwark against global imperialism?
For real now, how absolutely cooked does your brain have to be to look at Donald Trump and go, yeah, he seems conflict diverse.
You know, really, really pass.
He shies away from conflict, that guy.
As for the claim that Kamala Harris would also have gone to war with Iran, I strongly doubt it, and citation needed.
Because in this conception of things, like Kamala Harris is a.
Globalist and part of the satanic cabal running things, particularly to the benefit of usually US imperialism.
Whereas this thing happening in Iran right now has been really fucking bad for the US and continues to be a really bad idea.
And just so all my dear American audience are aware, it is also fucking this country over too and destabilizing basically half the global economy at minimum.
And though she certainly has plenty of flaws, this is just not something I could see Kamala Harris doing.
Incidentally, the image shown here was taken directly from Kamala Harris's website, and upon saving it, the automatic title of the photo retrieved from the website was just Hero.
Russell Talks To Gay People00:12:51
Like I said, she has some flaws.
Anyway, apparently, Russell has been talking to lots of gay people lately.
I spend a surprising amount of time actually speaking to gay people about Christ, and like, you know, because obviously they're concerned, and I'm trying to understand how we.
Love.
But what I can tell them absolutely is I overly identified with my sexuality.
I'll tell you that.
I made my sexuality the most important thing about me.
And I thought it was okay to be hedonistic and decadent.
And it was an expression of my sort of neo pagan self.
And can I say, there's been some consequences.
So you might want to consider there's something more beautiful about you.
Are you saying, for example, that Jesus Christ and the beloved disciple John would have improved this great intimacy and total love between them?
By ejaculating, is that what you're suggesting?
There is more to you than that.
There is a supreme intimacy with God.
He actually wants to be inside you right now.
Look at the carnality.
He's incarnate.
We eat his flesh and blood.
As well as the agape love, there's Eros love in that.
We are his bride.
We are his bride.
And that's not gay.
Russell is God's bride, as is Tucker, apparently, in erotic love with God, Eros.
And that's not gay.
He is inside.
He wants to be inside us all.
Listen, I have sucked several dicks, and to me that sounds pretty gay.
I'm just saying.
I am just saying.
Anyway, obviously a couple of points there.
Firstly, there are some who make the argument that Jesus had a special relationship with John the Baptist and that they were gay together, boning down on the regular.
It's not the craziest thing I've heard about a guy who has.
12 men following him around at all times, but nonetheless, Russell seems to have taken offense to the idea.
And secondly, what is probably the cause of Russell feeling offended is he seems to believe all gay people overly identify with their sexuality, like make their sexuality the most important thing about them, and are all hedonistic and decadent.
This ties in with his usual spiel about, you know, people worshipping the self.
He believes that anyone from any minority community is too obsessed with the self, particularly anyone from the LGBTQ community.
And Here's the thing.
I'm queer, non binary.
I swing in all directions.
I don't give a shit what someone has in their pants.
It's just a question of whether I find them attractive as a human being.
But, as far as I'm concerned, that is probably the least interesting thing about me.
Like, it's about as interesting as my hair color or the shape of my nose, because it's something I cannot control.
I was born this way, and so I live this way.
It just is.
The only time it becomes relevant in a public sense is when some individual or group is trying to act.
Actively oppress people like me because they have a problem with queer folks existing.
I can guarantee you that any and all queer and trans people would love not to have to discuss the finer points of their sexuality or gender to everyone, or be forced into a position of having to justify their own existence.
But it happens on a regular basis, largely thanks to bigots using religion as a cudgel, and people like Russell.
Pride, you know, which began as a protest and should remain as such.
I don't overly identify with my sexuality.
It's other people getting their panties in a bunch over what genitals someone has and which ones are going in which places.
They are more obsessed with that than the actual queer community by a significant margin.
It is deeply weird.
And as if to make my point for me, Russell, in his admonishing of gay people, essentially just rattled off a stereotype of, let's be honest, gay men specifically, that All gay men are just fucking and sucking on every street corner with reckless abandon.
It's a stereotype that, yes, is pretty offensive because gay men are not some two dimensional dick sucking monolith.
Anyway, Russell is trying to figure out how to love gay people because he said before, well, it says in the Bible that it's wrong to be gay.
And what I'll say is that there are a great many people who believe there was an error in the translation of the Bible where.
The original passage in Leviticus said that it wasn't a man who lay with another man that is an abomination, but actually, any man who lays with a child is an abomination before the Lord.
And I think perhaps, given his history, Russell should focus on that part a bit more strongly.
Nonetheless, Russell doesn't want to be judgmental of others, and apparently, neither does Tucker.
I'm still, you know, for my own.
I'm trying to understand how to be completely loving to all people and not.
It says here clearly, don't judge, get the log out of your own eye.
So I guess it's not my.
My ministry is not about that.
But I'm just what I don't want is to be a participant in a church that prioritizes judging and condemning others rather than dealing with our own evident internal fallen broken problems.
That is the truth.
We had this conversation at breakfast this morning with a wonderful person who works for us.
And I was telling her about being in church a couple of weeks ago when somebody got up to read who, you know, I knew a lot about and was judging so much based on.
You know, behavior that we judge or whatever.
Interesting.
This person is up to read.
And joking.
I really felt very strongly that God just like spoke to me, which doesn't happen every day.
And the message was, You are no better than her.
And I turned, it makes me emotional thinking about it.
And I turned to my wife, who I know was having similar thoughts or thought she was.
And I whispered to her, I said, We are no better than her.
And she goes, I know.
And I think that is, that's really at the center of it.
Yeah.
We're real pieces of shit, aren't we?
Yeah, yeah, we are.
Yeah.
I very genuinely struggle to think of a group that Tucker Carlson hasn't been judgmental of and has demonized.
Well, actually, there's only one, and that's the straight white conservative Christian.
Otherwise, Tucker Carlson has a demonstrable record of hating gay people, black people, brown people, women, trans people, poor people, Muslims.
The list is quite frankly endless.
I mean, he popped up on Piers Morgan's show at the tail end of last year, railing against gay people and liberally using the F slur.
We're no better than her.
Yeah, no shit, Tucker.
From here, Russell moves to his thoughts on trans people, which I know you're all excited for.
And we go on quite the journey.
When you see God for who God is, then you will know who you are.
If you don't know God for who God is, then you will be looking for an identity in the world.
I'm an Englishman.
I'm an American.
I'm a proud homosexual.
I'm a.
Young black woman.
I'm a little Dutch boy wearing clogs.
You start to identify with false things that you made with your own hands.
No, the message to people about gender identity is go further.
You are more individual than that.
He loves you more than that.
You are more unique than that.
You're not part of a group of people that happen to feel that you don't fit with the arbitrary gender identities of 2026 American cultural identity that wear this and wear that.
Indeed, in the word, in heaven, there is no man woman.
In heaven, in the supreme reality, there is no man woman.
He says that.
That's in there.
You're right.
You're right in a way.
It's a kind of a performance, but if that performance leads you to, like, you know, Changing your body surgically, then that's potentially there might be another route.
But we can look at the data and see if that's working for people post surgery and how many of them are happy with it.
And I guess we could make a scientific, kind of a scientific judgment.
But the problem is, is that all of us have been now recently exposed to the total illegitimacy of science, in so much as we all know that only profitable experimentation is being undertaken.
Who's doing and conducting the experiments to demonstrate absolutely that there is.
Is no causal link between the childhood vaccine program and the rise in autism.
Sorry, physicists.
Apparently, you can't be trusted anymore because of this bullshit coming out of this guy's mouth.
Sorry, nuclear engineers, you're out.
Yeah, as to what he just said, there are comprehensive studies that prove there is no causal link between vaccines and autism.
And there are nonprofit studies done, usually paid for by some kind of government grant, which is part of why countries need institutions like the NIH.
To make sure that science is still being done without the fetters of capitalism around it.
How we got there from his opinions on trans people, however, is honestly kind of impressive.
So let's go back to the top.
If you don't know who God is, then you're looking for identity in the world and you identify with false things.
So if you're trans in any way, you need to go further into the Bible and get with God, especially if you're considering surgery.
Well, like, have you maybe thought about Christianity instead?
Perhaps the gender dysphoria you're feeling is actually some mystical internal strife because you aren't religious enough.
And I wish that didn't actually sound like something one of these people would genuinely say, but here we are.
Though, when it comes to surgery, hey, perhaps we could look at outcomes post surgery and see how many people are happy with it.
Incidentally, statistically, more people regret Harry Potter tattoos than they do gender affirming surgery.
For the record.
But, ah, well, we have learned that we can't trust science, haven't we?
Because vaccines and COVID and autism.
So I guess all you're actually left with is the Bible.
So surgery's out.
Sorry.
It's the Bible.
That's all you actually need.
He's just absolutely relentless.
I must apologize to everyone for the next clip because it begins with the jarring sound of Tucker Carlson laughing.
But the problem is, I create a lot of data out there during those years.
I was sleeping with thousands of women, and I was sleeping with women that will have sex with you immediately in a bathroom or backstage or in a corridor or in a car.
So I create quite a lot of, I hurt people, I exploit people.
That's greedy, that's selfish, it's inconsiderate, it's mean, it's certainly sinful, immoral, it's all of those things.
There's no question about any of that.
So when, show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
If people's phones are getting scraped, as Edward Snowden revealed from more or less the late 90s, just in case one day you do something we don't like, we're ready to go.
It's either going to be the pink or the green, the money or the honey.
We're going to get you financially or we're going to get you sexually, unless you're a person that's lived in Christ.
If you've lived in Christ your whole life, they're going to have to kill you for doing nothing.
They're going to have to kill you for doing nothing.
Probably what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Probably there was nothing shady to get him with, was there?
That may be what it was.
Yeah, of course.
That's what happened.
Charlie Kirk was just too good and honest.
And there just weren't any skeletons in that man's closet.
So they had to have him just outright killed instead.
Whereas Russell, well, he's nice and easy to deal with because he slept with so many women.
Therefore, any conspiracy to take him down requires minimal effort at best, apparently.
It's a convincing narrative if you're a dipshit.
Obviously, Russell has been claiming the allegations are a conspiracy against him for the last two and a half years, and he continues to do so, trying to imply that the women he both admits are real and admits he at least hurt have all been paid off and encouraged to exaggerate claims against him.
It's a tactic that While it has evidently worked in terms of appealing to his far right audience and other members of the same media sphere, it comes with some element of risk.
London Mayor Fantasy Or Far Right Tactic00:15:19
Because it won't be long before this man is put in front of a judge.
And a barrister, lawyer, is going to be pointing out every instance of Russell insinuating a conspiracy around the very serious charges against him.
And I can assure you that both a judge and jury in this country is going to take a very fucking dim view of that kind of behavior.
So every time he does it, Yes, he's retaining his audience, but probably actively working against himself in his own criminal trial.
So, you know, there's maybe a bright side to his bullshit.
We'll see.
Now we move to the segment of the interview that some media outlets took quite seriously when they probably shouldn't have.
In a manageable way, Tucker, the City of London is having an election for mayor in 2028.
The reason this is fascinating is because the office of mayor is manageable.
The London mayor, Sadiq Khan, right now is only in control of the Metropolitan Police Force, London Transport, and certain issues regarding planning and housing.
All of these areas in a participatory direct democracy could be opened up to people that live in London, that love London.
All of a sudden, you don't have politics that thrives and runs on ideology and debate.
You have a pragmatic democracy.
Do you want ULES cameras that charge you if you have a certain type of vehicle?
Do you want a congestion charge?
Vote for it.
If you vote yes, we'll do it.
If you vote no, we won't.
Do you want this type of policing where people are arrested for Facebook posts, or do you want to focus on knife crime?
Which boroughs, which areas, what time of day?
Do you want us to investigate historic crimes, or do you want us to focus on contemporary rape gangs?
So, Russell's idea of technological direct democracy has resurfaced here.
The idea that the populace can all vote for things on an app or whatever through their phones.
Infrastructure that does not, at this point, exist, particularly in any way that is secure and safe.
Hell, our elections over here are still done with pen and paper.
We don't even use voting machines, let alone taking the risk of using digital technology that can be installed on people's phones.
And he set his sights on the City of London for reasons that will become clear in just a moment.
Despite the fact he hasn't lived there in, I think, at least 10 years, I'm pretty sure.
But firstly, I must say he is drastically underestimating the job of the Mayor of London.
From the City of London's website, here is what current Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is responsible for.
He has a duty to create plans and policies for the capital, covering arts and culture, business and economy, environment, fire, health, housing and land, planning, policing and crime, regeneration, sport, transport, young people.
Other priorities for the Mayor include higher education, foreign investment, and attracting events and conferences to London.
So, yeah, the actual list is a bit longer than Russell's idea of it just being policing.
A bit of planning and transport.
I will also point out that while the mayor has control over policing and crime, he cannot change criminal laws.
And people would still be arrested for hate speech on social media, regardless of what any mayor wanted to do.
So, why is Russell talking about all this?
Well, let's find out.
The beauty of it is you would say, we have an opinion and we have a voice and we have advocacy.
You could even, if you wanted, for free, because there's no way I would pay people to do this.
Have a council of elders from the LGBTQ community, from the Muslim community, from the white working class community, from the left and from the right, from all potential groups, and say, Why don't you advocate and advise?
Because I don't want to be in charge of London.
I want to participate in an end to the kind of politics that we know is birthing, midwifing the apocalypse and Armageddon through duplicity, through conflict, through endless self obsession, through pornography, through addiction, using addiction, even where it doesn't typically play out.
Every time we look at a screen, Food that we eat, the things we believe about ourselves.
I would like to run for mayor of London in 2028 so that the people of London would run it, so that politicians are not involved in politics, so we have true open source transparent democracy.
Yeah, this is Russell Brand announcing his candidacy for mayor of London in 2028.
Made a few headlines at the time, which is exactly what Russell wants.
And I want to be clear from the outset that this should be taken about as seriously as Andrew Tate claiming that he's running.
For Prime Minister, in that, no, you're not.
You fucking liar.
Stop wasting everybody's time.
Anyway, Russell apparently wants to be mayor of London, but also not be in charge of London, and instead he wants to defer to multiple unpaid councils of elders, which presumably would be chosen or elected, if you will, by their representative communities, and then those councils of elders with opposing views would essentially have to argue back and forth over what policy decisions ended up happening.
Functionally, what Russell is suggesting is Parliament, but on a smaller scale, like one just for London, and with no one getting paid to do their jobs.
Oh, and with people voting for things on their phones as well, which is sure to be a cybersecurity nightmare.
Sounds well thought out so far.
Speaking of which, what would that digital infrastructure look like?
Russell does have an answer.
I bet you, like me, do polymarket adverts.
They seem to be advertising absolutely everywhere.
That technology for polling and electing could be used to determine where you want your local budgets.
Spent, who you want running a particular area of public life, if there is a requirement for any representation.
And most importantly, you will be in control of your own lives.
And we don't need to quarrel and squabble about Islam and Islamic invasion.
If the people of Epping don't want to have migrants in their community, then let them vote on it.
Now, that's not an area that the London mayor controls.
But certainly, if the polling was available, it would be difficult to impose that on the people of Epping.
Perhaps if people in other communities are very pro refugees, they would get a budget for and the ability to house.
Refugees.
There's no point in us living in this tower of babble, madness, of incessant, unending conflict online and sometimes in person when we have the opportunity for real community, real change.
At this point, Tucker, we know that the Republicans aren't the answer, the Democrats aren't the answer, the Conservatives aren't the answer, the Labour Party, the Greens, Reform, whoever.
What you want is for people to be absolutely empowered in their own lives, as our Lord suggests.
Each of us has direct access to divine truth, and you can participate as much as you want to.
I want to tell you as well that my intention, amidst all this madness, with a forthcoming trial and a book out that I'm very pleased with, I'm going to run for Mayor of London in 2028.
You're going back to the UK?
Well, yes, possibly to serve a jail sentence.
Seems much more likely than him becoming Mayor of London, I will say that.
I also can't see Russell moving back here willingly.
He is far less revered in the UK than he is in Florida, where he's been living the last year and a half.
Otherwise, Couple of things.
Apparently, the technology to use for this digital democracy Russell so desperately wants is the gambling platform Polymarket.
Russell has advertised for both them and Kalshi in the past, so it's no surprise this is his solution.
In case anyone doesn't know what either of these platforms are, they're places where you can bet on anything from people getting murdered, to bombs being dropped, to sports outcomes, to world leaders being kidnapped, which is what this picture is, to how many times Trump will say radical leftists in a speech.
Speech.
It truly is a bleak sign of the times, and if anyone wants more detail, Last Week Tonight did a great piece on it a couple of weeks ago.
Needless to say, the idea of such a platform getting involved with our actual democracy is a harrowing thought.
Secondly, I am kind of fascinated by the idea that Russell believes this would solve anything.
According to him, smaller communities being able to vote on things would get rid of the conflict that is rife throughout our society, conflict that he Directly agitates and profits off of, by the way.
When actually, for more than 10 years, at least politics in the UK, especially, has been on a knife's edge and is going in more extreme directions in terms of wanting to deliver change.
As an example, the Senead elections and some local elections will be held in the UK next week.
That's Welsh Parliament being decided upon, and in my constituency, it is firmly split down the middle between Reform, Nigel Farage's party, the far right, and Plaid Cymru, the leftist.
Party who I support and will be voting for.
What that means is my constituency will most likely end up with three reform members of the Senev and three Plaid Cymru members.
It doesn't matter what degree of scale you introduce, the result is going to remain pretty much the same because of both the political and media landscapes of 2026.
You could poll just my town and it would still most likely come out as 50 50.
Plus, as mentioned, where there is conflict, There is money.
Russell's fantasy land accounts for precisely none of this because the man is so firmly detached from reality.
And next, we get an idea of precisely what Russell would do if voted into office.
I don't want power no more.
I don't want the power of being a celebrity or the mayor of London or a lothario.
I don't want that.
All I want is to know him intimately.
And I forget that sometimes because I'm weak and I'm easily distracted and I'm fallen.
But in him, I am none of those things.
He made me and you and everybody for to know him, to know him and love him.
And it doesn't all have to be on a big grand global stage in great big trials against a fallen nation.
Britain's fallen apart.
That's obvious.
It's evident.
It's on a different trajectory from your country.
It's still owned by dark imperial power.
And the thing about the idea of participatory direct democracy, Tucker, is I don't care if I don't want to sit in an office somewhere making decisions.
I want to pray all of the time.
I want to be with God and I want to be with my children and the people I love.
And to tell people to do what it says in the Great Commission tell people in a language that they'll understand God is real, Christ is real.
Stop worshiping the world.
You're going to die.
You're going to die.
And it's all meaningless.
You're going to die.
It's all meaningless.
Vote for me.
I mean, I'm almost half convinced.
So, Russell wants to be mayor of London, but doesn't actually want to do any of the job.
He wants to sit around and read the Bible and pray while his unpaid councils of elders do the actual work.
And if this is a tiny version of parliament, then the position Russell actually wants is that of king.
Like, yes, technically he's the head of state and has some power over government, but functionally he doesn't actually do any work and still gets paid a shitload of money.
That is the job Russell actually wants.
Anyway, I've had quite enough of this.
So let's get to the last clip from the Tucker interview before we move to Megyn Kelly.
Russell Brand, how to become a Christian in seven days.
I think it's pretty obvious that God is using you.
And I'm going to your trial.
Oh, good.
Thanks.
October the 7th.
You recognize me.
Is it actually October the 7th?
Oh, my God.
I didn't even see that.
Yes, it is.
Your trial is October 7th.
Do you know what one of my friends said to me?
He goes, What I know about the state.
And the kind of interest we're talking around is they do things preemptively.
Like if they think, right, if we're going to take this course of action, what are the potential obstacles in this reason?
All right, well, preemptively, get rid of that one, get rid of that one, get rid of that one.
Right, that's the puff.
I didn't realize.
Yeah, it's oxygen.
I assume your pretrial hearing is on 9 11.
I'm disgusting.
I don't know.
Thank you for that.
What Russell should find alarming is that Tucker Carlson just made a funnier joke than Russell managed throughout that entire interview.
And Russell still describes himself as a comedian.
Um, For anyone who missed it, Russell's criminal trial has been pushed back to October, though the date I have is October 12th, not October 7th.
It's set to last around two months, and supposedly Tucker Carlson wants to be there for at least some of it, presumably whenever the cameras are there, as though the situation couldn't get any worse.
It's going to be a full media circus for a while, I imagine, and I am unlikely to be attending, partly because there's not.
Too much, I think, I'd be able to offer that the regular media won't be able to cover, and partly because I absolutely do not want to be in the same room as both Russell Brand and Tucker Carlson.
Um, so now we move to the next softball interview for Russell, this time with Megan Kelly.
And I'm gonna play this clip of Megan talking from early on in the interview to lend context to what we're about to see.
My next phase of you, well, I watched you during COVID and I loved all that, and I thought you've got he's gotten very brave and very outspoken in a great way.
Then came all the allegations, the sexual, alleged sexual assault and rape and so on.
And it first came in this UK quote documentary, and they use that term very loosely there and here.
And I'll tell you up front, I was angry when I saw that because they did it in such a compelling way that, especially the stuff about the 16 year old, that I was angry with you.
I believed what they said, or at least believed that there was enough smoke, there might be fire, and said to the audience at the time, you know, the conservative movement doesn't need.
Somebody like that.
Like, we love what he's saying about COVID, but if this is a guy who's sexually assaulting women and taking advantage of 16 year olds, we need to move on without him.
And I felt that anger for a couple of years around you because I just thought it was so reckless and it was so wrong.
And I knew that it might be false, but it seemed overwhelming the way that they presented the evidence.
And then the more I looked at it, the more I started to recognize I might not know the full story because.
Since then, I have seen what the British government has done, what my own government has done to certain figures that it doesn't like.
And I have an enormous amount of open mindedness to you being railroaded and attacked by people for reasons having nothing to do with actual facts.
Sex, Consent And Power Differentials00:05:04
Allow me to offer a translation.
I was more than happy to throw you under the bus when the allegations came out because you seem like a bad person who did bad things.
But.
Since then, you've convinced enough far right asshats that it's a conspiracy against you, and that means I can profit by supporting you.
So tell me all of your bullshit and let's make some money.
Megyn Kelly is an evil sack of shit, just like Tucker.
No two ways about it, which is pretty much how I feel about most people willing to have Russell on their show these days.
And from here, we get to what was probably the most viral clip of Russell on Megyn Kelly's show, with good reason.
Thank you, Megan Kelly, for giving me the grace to address in particular your anger, which is entirely legitimate and recognizable.
And the plain fact of it is that in Europe and in the United Kingdom where I'm from, the age of consent is 16.
And I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30.
But when I was 30, I was a very different person.
I was a lot younger and I was an immature 30 year old.
Consensual sex, actually, with a variety of people, when there is a Strong power differential as there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to attract women that I had at that time.
I think involves exploitation, I think it is exploitative.
I recognized that my sexual conduct in the past was selfish, and I didn't apply enough consideration, barely any, I suppose, really, to how that sex was affecting other people.
We'll get to the rest of this in just a second, but that last sentence has confounded me since I first heard it.
I did not apply enough consideration, barely any, I suppose, really, to how that sex was affecting other people.
He's saying that as though the act of sex was a thing that he did, not an act which involves two consenting parties.
Like, the rule with sex is it takes at least two to tango, right?
Like, even in kink situations of like BDSM or whatever, there is established Ideally, enthusiastic consent beforehand.
There is only one form of sex I can think of that involves one person doing it to the other, and that is sexual assault.
So, for me, just the way he's talking about this here is incredibly telling, particularly because, in the more specific sense, we're discussing Russell having sex with a 16 year old when he was 30.
Now, him coming out with this did somewhat surprise me because it was a significant component of the documentary and the investigative reporting into.
The allegations.
It was him coercing a 16 year old girl, being saved in her phone as a girl's name so her parents wouldn't find out, sending a car to pick her up from school, leaving her in a cold bath for hours while he fucked about doing other things and told her not to move.
He made her read Lolita, which, by the way, is not an instruction manual.
And apparently he orally raped her as well, on top of the myriad of other disgusting ways he, a grown man, treated this young girl.
But oh, apparently he was an immature 30 year old and he's a very different person now.
And like, I'm sure she is too.
Like, that kind of trauma tends to leave its mark.
In any case, what Russell is doing here is a classic example of admitting to doing a minor bad thing, like a smaller bad thing, like legally sleeping with a 16 year old when he was 30, in order to distract from the multiple very, very bad things he's accused of doing and will be on trial for.
Plus, the bad things he won't be on trial for, like I mentioned before, because Alice is not amongst those pressing charges against Russell, which is probably why he feels comfortable, or at least able, to talk about it.
The other thing I'd like to point out is that Russell is now 50, and if he wanted, he could legally have sex with a 16 year old in the UK now, if he wanted to, provided he had her expressed consent.
And that to me is incredibly fucked up.
The fact that we are not protecting children from this kind of age gap dynamic, like, take the fame and everything out of it.
There is an inherent power differential when someone in their teens is in an ongoing relationship with someone a decade or more older than them.
And that really, really needs to be reflected in the laws we have around sexual consent in the UK and the US, for that matter, actually.
And actually, Russell gets into the concept of consent here.