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Jan. 25, 2024 - On Brand

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OB #39 - Won't Somebody Please Think Of The Children

Russell covers DeSantis the Dropout, Alex Soros at Davos, and an 8% rise in child deaths in the UK. It does not go well. Support us on Patreon! - patreon.com/OnBrand Buy a magnet! - lookittherealactualgooooold

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	This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one, Russell Brand.
	I'm Al Worth, and each week I go through an episode of Brand's Show with my co-host, Lauren B. That's me, Lauren B. And I don't know what we're going to watch today and listen to today, but I know it's usually not great.
	Yeah, it's almost invariably bad, which is why we do the good thing before the bad thing.
	Lauren, what is your good thing before the bad thing this week?
	Oh, it is the Libby app.
	And I don't know if y'all have something comparable in the UK or anywhere else, but in the US, the Libby app connects to your local library and uses your library card for, like, audiobooks and ebooks.
	Also magazines and stuff.
	There's also Hoopla and Canopy.
	And I think Overdrive was the older app.
	But there's apps out there that use your library card.
	So rather than having like an Audible or whatever, you know, an account, it's entirely free.
	It's not free.
	Our taxes pay for it, and I think it's a great thing that our taxes pay for, so the more people that are involved, and you don't even have to go to the library.
	Usually, it depends on the system, but you don't have to go to the library to do it.
	Also, obviously, we're not sponsored.
	It's the library.
	But, like, this is not SpawnCon.
	I just love it.
	I was gonna say, I think if, like, libraries, we would endorse.
	As a podcast, we endorse libraries.
	Absolutely.
	Would I accept a sponsorship of any kind?
	Hell yeah.
	That's what I fucking would.
	I don't know how that would work necessarily.
	I don't get anything.
	I don't think it would, but carry on.
	It'd be great.
	But yeah, it's fucking killer.
	And so, you know, Audible, you can kind of, you know, you buy the thing, you're not renting it.
	So I do have to wait longer for, you know, a very popular book But also, if you have people on the internet, not just in person, at the library buildings requesting and engaging with the library system, then they're more likely to have more books and have more resources.
	So I encourage literally everyone, if you don't have a library card, you usually don't have to show up.
	They will just issue a number online that you can use.
	Libby, go get it!
	And so what's fun is basically you have to wait in a queue and you have a hold if it's a very popular book and you're kind of in line waiting to borrow it.
	And I'm specifically, I'm talking about the Libby app, but I'm really excited to read this book, Chaos, that Mike read, I guess maybe two years ago.
	And it's Tom something, what's his name?
	It's gonna happen.
	It's close.
	Tom O'Neill.
	I had it.
	I didn't have to look at it.
	I could have just said it.
	It sounded like a newscaster, not an author.
	But that's me.
	That's my bias coming through.
	But I was like, that can't be right.
	It was right.
	A little pink behind the curtain as to what goes through my head whenever we're recording.
	That's fun.
	I just started it and it's all about the Manson case and the CIA.
	Mike just finished this book, The Devil's Chessboard, which is all about Alan Dulles and the CIA.
	And so I'm fucking stoked to listen, read this book.
	Listen, read this book.
	Because I mean, Mike has never like, run into a room and said, Okay, stop what you're doing.
	You have to hear this thing I just read.
	And then reading me bits of it.
	He's never been more excited about a crazy book than this book.
	And so now I get to actually imbibe the whole thing.
	But yeah, you have to wait kind of a long time for the holds on this app, and so it seems bad, I think, if you're used to having something instantly available all the time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it's a little bit like a present when it shows up every time, and it's like exciting.
	And so yeah, this thing just came up and it was like, yes, cool!
	It was like getting a present or a prize.
	Yeah, right.
	And you can always listen to something else in the meantime, right?
	You know, that's... We've established I do.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Quite a few things!
	So that's cool, but also I'm afraid that if I really start picking up on these reading habits of, like, CIA espionage government secrets, we will be impossible to talk to in public.
	More so than you are already.
	Which, already?
	There's a line.
	There's a line.
	Little asterisk.
	So yeah, this may make us completely insufferable to the public, but it's so interesting and I want to know.
	That's a really nice thing that I also encourage anyone out there to Libby app.
	It's the fucking best.
	And libraries in general are spectacular.
	And whatever, I'm sure there's some, I mean, maybe it's available outside of the U.S.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I was just going to say, I have no idea.
	I have always gone physically to the library, so I don't know.
	Probably.
	There's got to be something here that's comparable, I would think.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, it might be the same thing.
	Check it out.
	Or the library itself is made a proprietary Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because there's a bunch of like music ones too.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I try to avail myself of those things.
	All kinds of shit.
	Everyone, go to your local library.
	They're awesome.
	But even specifically like apps that are that have been putting out, I still get emails and I looked into a thing like 10 years ago, you know, like through the St.
	Louis Public Library.
	So that was like, there's there's still their own kind of dedicated services, which I think is really cool.
	Everybody should check them out immediately, especially the way the libraries are being treated in America right now is Fucking rough.
	I'm in the UK.
	I'm in the UK.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah.
	Right.
	So yeah, what's your good thing?
	Well, kind of related to yours, actually, but in a different sense.
	So bear with me on this.
	So this weekend, I experienced a power cut in just my house.
	And that was, yeah, kind of like half two in the afternoon until the following morning.
	That's not stressful at all.
	Yeah, not stressful at all, especially when, like, I've got a show to be doing, for instance.
	You know, I've got things to be happening and a child to be, you know, entertaining and all of this, who is like, why is the telly not working?
	What the fuck is this?
	You know, she was, yeah, she was not particularly pleased with that situation.
	And one thing that became kind of...
	Oh no, very obvious to me was how fucking quickly we all go back to the 1800s without any heating and without any electricity.
	It's a thing that we could stand to be reminded of a little more often.
	Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I had gas, so I was able to fill a little hot water bottle for April and all that.
	I was like, OK, you're not going to freeze to death overnight, good.
	Um, you know, and thankfully the house wasn't like ridiculously cold yet.
	I was like, okay, that's fine.
	Um, and she slept in with me anyway, you know, body warmth and all that.
	Penguin style.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But, um, but yeah, it was like, it was like 11 o'clock at night before this fucking landlord called a fucking gas boiler engineer for some inexplicable reason.
	I need an electrician.
	Okay, I'll call this guy.
	That's not... hmm.
	Guy literally showed up and was like, yeah, it's not this.
	Bye.
	Okay.
	Yeah, like I said, thank you.
	And by that point it was too late to call anyone else.
	I was like, ah, fuck it.
	So, you know, sorted the dogs out and everything and I was like, Normally I do something to wind down at this time to try and like, you know, and I was like, well, my phone's off because I'm trying to conserve phone battery for a start.
	Yeah.
	Nothing else, because I didn't know how long this was going to last.
	Right.
	Nothing else was feasible.
	My Kindle was dead and that's normally where I do all of my reading.
	And so what I had to do was light a little candle on my bedside table and get a physical book And read that like I was in the 1800s at a time that was fairly early for me.
	I was like, all right, fuck it.
	And I had a little bit of whiskey and I sat there and I started reading the Witcher books because I've had those sat there for ages.
	And I was like, yeah, go on.
	Let's give those a look.
	Terrific.
	Really enjoying so far.
	But yeah.
	My good thing before the bad thing, specifically, I think, is reading a physical book.
	Just having that tactile thing.
	It's been a while.
	It's been a while.
	Could have done without the candlelight, to be honest, but the physical book, that was great.
	It doesn't work super good.
	And it's a little hot, a little dangerous.
	A little hot, a little dangerous near paper, a little flickery, you know, not great for the eyes, but hey, we got that.
	We got that.
	I miss it.
	I get it.
	Like, I just spent all this time touting this app, but also like, I...
	I mean, yeah, I miss the reading thing because, you know, there's books that I've been able to absorb very well.
	And, you know, obviously I listen to a lot of content.
	The audiobooks are still just read versions of books, not podcasts.
	So the way that the content is put together is different.
	You can remember characters names a lot more easily when you read them and you see the shape the word makes and all that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's the one thing that I'm like, it's harder to keep that kind of stuff, to keep track of that stuff.
	Yeah, your brain processes it differently, doesn't it?
	While listening to a book is still reading a book, in my view, I do think, yeah, it can be harder to keep everything- You just process it differently.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And also, the audiobook reader being maybe getting a little zealous about differentiating the way people talk.
	To help you here could make you just cringe to death.
	I've had that experience where I'm like, okay, I know who's talking, but my stomach hurts listening to this.
	It's so awkward.
	When you're listening to a 55-year-old man trying to do the voice of a 14-year-old girl, it's like, no, please, just read it.
	Don't do that!
	Just read it!
	Read it like you and just say, even just say beforehand, this is blah blah blah talking.
	That's better.
	That's better than the other option.
	Thank you.
	With historical nonfiction, it can get very spicy.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh, oh boy.
	Oh dear.
	Oh dear.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You're like, oh no!
	Oh no!
	This is how we decided to handle this?
	Oh no!
	Oh dear.
	This was a choice!
	This was a choice.
	I would, I don't know, I don't know how else I would necessarily have handled this.
	You know what?
	I'm glad that's not my job.
	I'm so excited.
	100%.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	That's the moment of gratitude.
	Like, well, at least I don't have to do that.
	I hope the guy got paid.
	Probably not enough, I imagine.
	I know the rates for that kind of work because I've done some of it and boy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Let's move on from there.
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	Now then, this last week was a total fucking snooze, like just absolute desert for any content worth discussing.
	It's just rehashing old bullshit the entire week, and as it happened, personal circumstances in my life, like living in the 1800s briefly, meant pushing the cutting of clips back a ways because, you know, they didn't have laptops back then.
	So what we have is from Monday this week, and it's a full show without an interview either, so got a lot of rustle to get to.
	So let's let him introduce the show and some of what we'll be discussing today.
	Hello there, you awakened wonders.
	Thanks so much for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand today as geopolitics, global politics and domestic politics shift.
	The tectonic plates are moving.
	Let us know in the comments and chat if you think that Ron DeSantis is pulling out.
	Interesting image.
	Is the end of the kind of trajectory of reclamation that Nikki Haley represents?
	Because he's come out, ain't he, Ron?
	And said, it's Trump.
	Whereas see when Vivek predicted that Ron DeSantis would run as VP with Nikki Haley.
	Do you remember that video?
	That was that was an interesting moment.
	Well, Ron DeSantis has pulled out.
	Trump has given an extraordinary speech on the subject.
	Meanwhile, Joe Biden.
	What did we see Joe Biden do?
	Get mix up Ukraine and Congress.
	That's what we saw.
	We've got some brilliant reporting from inside Davos, where, of course, in essence, the significant narratives play out.
	Globalism, of course, being a more powerful force in the politics in your country than anything you may be purportedly domestically offering.
	Whoever you vote for, you might end up with a globalist run in your country.
	And I'm looking at the rumble chat and I'm seeing a lot of people talking about Yeah, Trudeau.
	Globalism.
	Hello, Danskiller420.
	Hello, TheLindaStreet.
	Hello, William Coburn.
	Hello, Kyle Rhino and TheNerdFarAway.
	We've got a problem with Locals today, so we're streaming exclusively on Rumble.
	The first 20 minutes will be up on YouTube.
	Oh, the Locals channel is down again.
	Yeah, this is like the fourth or fifth time in about six weeks that this has been a problem for them.
	The Rumble stream always works perfectly, but their locals one, they're always like, it's not working, we've just gotta do it to Rumble.
	From what I looked into as far as the Rumble funding and where they're trying to go with it,
	I bet they have a lot of resources if they want to be the cloud server for Nazis.
	Yes. Yeah, exactly.
	They have a lot more ability to address these problems. And they know they're making very
	fucking big promises.
	Really, for Rumble, all they have to have is a stable platform, and they will leave Telegram and Gab and all other stuff is just going to Yeah, absolutely.
	They just need something that doesn't fall apart.
	Which, hey, clearly it's doing better than locals is.
	Which does beg the question why the fuck I would pay for a locals subscription.
	That's what I thought.
	Mm-hmm.
	Russell does give us a different reason a little bit later on, so we'll put a pin in that for now.
	Ah, interesting.
	Okay.
	Anyway, of course, today we'll be discussing Dropout DeSantis, the World Economic Forum- Oh, I called it?
	Did I call it?
	I 100% called it.
	Yeah, you did.
	We'll be discussing the World Economic Forum meeting at Davos, albeit briefly, and as is seemingly unavoidable with Russell's show, things will later take a dark turn.
	But first, let's take a look at Ron DeSantis dropping out of the presidential race and Russell's commentary surrounding it.
	Let's start with Ron DeSantis.
	Guys, the buttons.
	Cheers.
	Well done, guys.
	Thank you.
	Well, I've had disagreements with Donald Trump, such as on the coronavirus pandemic and his elevation of Anthony Fauci.
	Trump is getting that little dig in, isn't he?
	He's getting a little dig in there.
	He's sort of going, remember, I was governor of Florida and we did a good job.
	Superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden.
	That is clear.
	I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee and I will honor that pledge.
	He has my endorsement because we can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear, a repackage formed of warmed over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents.
	That's interesting.
	He's digging out Nikki Haley.
	Big time, isn't he?
	He's essentially saying, which is the same thing that the legacy media, the neoliberal establishment media would say, is that the Republican Party is now formed around Donald Trump.
	There is no iteration of republicanism around an establishment candidate like Nikki Haley.
	But I wonder how many Donald Trump supporters would support him if he was independent.
	Would support Donald Trump if he was in the Democrat Party?
	Would support any hue of Donald Trump?
	Because in a sense he is transcendent, isn't he?
	Of the ordinary paradigm of two-party, or uniparty politics.
	Would you say?
	Am I right there?
	Let me know.
	I would say.
	It's a lot what he just said.
	I would say if Donald Trump is transcendent of two-party politics then he'd be running as an independent under the Trump banner, which is what was feared by the Republicans for this year and would have actually been quite revolutionary for US politics.
	He'd have no doubt overtaken Ross Perot as the most successful third-party candidate in history, And possibly could have won the presidency as a third party candidate, which would be insane.
	You know, it's definitely, I would say, more possible for Trump than anyone in living memory.
	You know what?
	Let's try!
	Let's try and see what happens!
	Well, this is it!
	Let's do it!
	I'm on board!
	Of course, it would have divided the right wing, and ultimately the Democrats would then probably have a pretty clean path to Biden's re-election come November while the right is busy staging a civil war.
	And so the Republicans, they knew which way to play this.
	In doing so, they have lowered their party somehow even further by Wholeheartedly, yet again, backing a literal coup-attempting, election-meddling, sex-offending criminal as their guy.
	That aside, why would Trump be happy to continue as the Republican candidate if he was such a renegade, if he was truly transcendent of two-party politics?
	And is as anti-establishment as Russell says he is.
	Well, put simply, he just fucking isn't.
	He's an old con man who stands to make the most money and avoid prison by reclaiming the presidency.
	He's anti-establishment only when he's not in the establishment.
	Well he's anti the establishment getting in his way.
	Yes, exactly.
	He's anti-establishment for me.
	A hundred percent.
	And if that guy's ass cheeks ever hit the president's chair in the Oval Office again, he's made it abundantly fucking clear that he will be very much pro-establishment and will begin the process of handing out retribution to all who have wronged him, using the government as his own personal mechanism of inflicting various forms of violence.
	So, yay!
	Really just naked about it.
	Just saying, like, all the stuff.
	Still in all caps, too, by the way, which, nice touch.
	Yeah!
	It's a lot.
	Way to go, bud.
	It's a lot.
	Yeah.
	I also don't know what the point of that, like, digression of, like, Russell saying, like, what if it was a grapefruit?
	Would people still support Trump?
	Like, okay.
	Where are you taking this body?
	This is so vague.
	Well, yeah, yes, yes, and I think, um, I don't know, I think he spends a lot of time in this show specifically just, uh, just really, really enjoying some Trump.
	Riffin?
	Oh!
	Trumpin'.
	Yeah, just, um, yeah.
	Yeah, the mouth is full.
	Anyway, all that said, we've got a little bit more of DeSantis' speech to look at.
	The days of putting Americans last, of kowtowing to large corporations, of caving to woke ideology are over.
	I thank all of our passionate supporters who have stood by us through it all.
	Winston Churchill once remarked that success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts.
	Well, this campaign has ended.
	Majesty, success is not final, victory is not complete.
	It's good that he... I don't think Churchill ever said that, did he?
	Oh Ron, even Russell knows that Churchill never said that quote that he just ripped off.
	That rules.
	That's fantastic.
	That's killer.
	It's probably just because other people reported on it after the fact, but good lord, man, do a quick Google search if you're intending to quote someone in front of your entire country.
	I mean, he's got a speechwriter!
	Like, what are they doing?
	Like, this is supposed to be to America, you know, like, hey America, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
	It's probably a good thing I won't be president.
	Go with the orange dictator instead.
	Peace!
	Also, they usually lie about Thomas Jefferson.
	Like, Thomas Jefferson said everything.
	You expect TJ, you expect Shakespeare, you expect something.
	You expect the greatest hits.
	Churchill's a good one, though.
	Yeah, there are a number of erroneous Churchill quotes out there.
	Oh, God.
	And if it's toxic positivity, it's Gandhi or Jimi Hendrix is what I have found the internet.
	Or Albert Einstein!
	Listen, everyone has a problem with not Googling their fucking quote before they say it.
	This is universal.
	I've seen ones attributed to Matthew McConaughey.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm just saying that those have been the most common and, like, hilarious.
	Like, okay, guys.
	Okay, guys.
	Oh, dear.
	What is interesting about that clip, though, is that it does mean that Russell and his team can fact-check things if they want to.
	Like, they do have the ability to look things up and check the veracity and validity of claims if they want to, meaning either they absolutely don't want to, or more likely, as we've shown them intentionally, maliciously editing other people's work on this show, they know exactly what they're doing with the lies and misinformation, and that is a feature, not a bug.
	Also, Skeleton Crew.
	Genuinely?
	I don't watch the content, and there was a discussion somewhere floating in the ether that I had in the last week that has me thinking about this.
	You can see it on screen again, right?
	I don't watch all the stuff, but it just seems like Russell's doing a lot of riffing and that is what you do when you have fewer people working on your content.
	Yeah, it doesn't feel tight necessarily, does it?
	It doesn't feel curated a good chunk of the time.
	Yeah, you find another pontificating man to spin lore for a long time.
	Yes, exactly.
	When it's interviews, there's an amount of control that can be exerted over that.
	Whereas when it's just him, on his own, he's naked and afraid up there.
	That's what's happening.
	Oh, I'm saying in interviews as well.
	That's what we've noticed.
	And maybe it's in my craw especially because it's just goofy history nonsense?
	A historical nonsense?
	I'm just like, what are you people even saying?
	Is this English anymore?
	What is the purpose of this discussion?
	Nobody knows anymore.
	Yes, no, no, no, 100%.
	I do think it is worse on the main show.
	As we will see today, I'm quite sure.
	But I think that's, you know, I mean, you're only as good as your crew, you know?
	At the end of the day, he's the face of a thing.
	So yeah, he can say whatever he wants, and he does, of course, have editorial control, because it comes out of his mouth, and we see him add stuff that maybe is, like, completely off-base.
	That we know, at least the limited exposure I know, that like Gareth Roy, whenever he was sitting at the table, would be like, scooching him away from it and, you know, directing a lot.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	Whereas now, when he's in unfamiliar territory, you see Russell look up.
	He looks up very intently at whoever's behind the camera, which is Gareth Roy, to be like, am I full of shit?
	Which also like content.
	You're making content.
	It is what it is.
	But like, it's just the cracks are showing.
	Maybe they aren't, I don't know, but that's how it's striking me because, you know, I'm not allowed to check out stuff, and frankly, not the best afternoon I could spend.
	Yeah, right.
	But, you know what I mean?
	Like, from what I see is like, oh, Riffing.
	Lots of just swimming around in the pool, just paddling, got your floaties, kicking your feet, just grooving.
	Charging people money to watch you.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	Absolute fortune.
	And we've got a little more grooving about in the water to go, because we've got the last section of DeSantis' speech here, and then something awfully revealing about Russell's audience.
	The mission continues.
	Down here in Florida, we will continue to show the country how to lead.
	Thank you and God bless.
	Very chirpy and cheerful, isn't it?
	Like, I think people are nicer when they move away from politics, don't you?
	Have you never noticed when they go, when they're out of races, you sort of go, oh, it's like they've had that thing pulled out of their head, out of the matrix.
	They just seem a lot kind of sweeter to me when I see them.
	We asked you a lot earlier what, who you would vote for, or who do you think the next president of the United States would be?
	A meager 2% Nikki Haley and 4% Joe Biden and 94% of you Donald Trump.
	So that's good news for the numerous folk here who evidently love Donald Trump there.
	Oh, pretty damning numbers.
	Spicy.
	That's a spicy meatball right there.
	Right?
	It's a poll posted to Russell's Twitter slash X account, and it's only based on about two hours of polling, the one that he's showing.
	So having given it a couple of days to shake out, the numbers appear as follows as to who Russell's audience want to be the next POTUS, right?
	So 3.1% went to Nikki Haley, 12% went to Joe Biden, so there's an improvement there, and 85% for Donald Trump, which actually leaves us with 100.1% because X is stupid and can't even do a poll correctly.
	Nonetheless, people can sing the song of Russell not being right-wing as much as they like, but the incredibly obvious reality is that someone who is not right-wing does not attract an audience of people who are made up almost entirely of right-wingers.
	And Donald Trump fans!
	Trumpers!
	Very often, especially when in these media spaces, skewing to the extreme right.
	The mental gymnastics required to hold that belief in your head is quite something.
	Oh, he's not right-wing, just almost his entire audience is right-wing, and almost all of his guests are right-wing, and also almost all of the things coming out of his mouth are right-wing, and vociferously anti-left-wing, but he's not right-wing?
	Well, and like, not just right wing.
	Magnum.
	That's its own breed that I think, I think that people, well, I mean, just that even is like an outmoded kind of, you know, phrase, genuinely.
	Like, at least in my, you know, in my experience, what hits my eyeballs and then gets shot to my brain is people are at least admitting that The difference, you know, of like even just, and not saying it's separate from the Republican Party, because I think that was the argument, the Never Trumpers, you know, that was like a thing.
	And now we're at least, that people can kind of plead ignorance with, but now it's like, it's not just right versus left.
	This is MAGA.
	Like this is a guy who is just facing so many indictments and like, Oh yeah.
	And not trying at all to campaign, really.
	Like, he doesn't have to.
	Like, he doesn't have to.
	He doesn't have to.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, no.
	He's, he's, he's, I mean, he's, he's showing up to these, um, to these, you know, victory events and that's just about it.
	Cause he likes this.
	It's not like he has to.
	Oh yeah, he loves that.
	Yeah, no, no, no, no.
	Oh no, he didn't.
	He wouldn't have to at all, no.
	He wants to show up to his little playground.
	He wants to be seen as victorious and have a bunch of people be like, we love you!
	They're pep rallies.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Speaking of being anti-left, we have some shit to fling at Joe Biden.
	Hey, you know, Joe Biden maybe should be dismissed by Judge Judy, because did you see they did a speech where... I forgot.
	I forgot to write this in.
	Did you see that Judge Judy has endorsed Nikki Haley?
	Did you see that?
	Yeah.
	I mean, who gives a shit on one hand?
	Russell covered it.
	I cut it out because it was pointless conversation.
	Weird.
	That's very weird.
	It's incredibly weird.
	The only other person that she's endorsed was Michael Bloomberg, was the only other person that she'd ever endorsed.
	Okay, well.
	I know, but she did say something.
	I think it's time for a nap, I think.
	Yes.
	She did say something I agreed with, which was that both Biden and Trump are too old.
	Okay, fair enough.
	I mean, you would know.
	Yeah, I was going to say, you would know.
	I trust your assessment.
	Sure.
	I respect that.
	Judge, I respect your judgment in that situation.
	Good going.
	Anyway, let's get to the rest of the clip.
	He got mixed up.
	Between Ukraine and Congress.
	Ukraine and Congress.
	Are they the same thing?
	Certainly a lot of money from Congress ends up in Ukraine to generate what?
	Have you been watching The Globalist?
	More peace.
	How do you get peace?
	War, obviously.
	That's how you get it.
	Let's see Biden, perhaps understandably, mixing up Ukraine and Congress.
	We also need Ukraine to make changes to fix the broken immigration system here.
	Seems like a bit too much to ask.
	We haven't needed that war with Russia.
	Putin's very aggressive.
	They're being bombed daily.
	The spring offensive didn't go well.
	BlackRock are queuing up on the borders to create a digital pilot world where ordinary workers will be disempowered.
	You know already that the media in Ukraine have seized control Of all of their national media organizations, their TV channels, you know already that Gonzalo Lira has died in prison in Ukraine.
	One of the journalists whose free speech doesn't have to be supported.
	That you know.
	So Ukraine got a lot on their plate.
	And by the way, if you are Ukrainian or you know someone that's suffering in that war in Ukraine, then my God, I've got total sympathy and compassion for you.
	I wish this war would end.
	We also need Congress.
	So make the changes to fix the broken immigration system here at home.
	Maybe just ask Ukraine.
	I don't know what Congress is going to do in the end.
	The whole thing is so ridiculous.
	Ugh, boy.
	Yeah, so, spends a good couple of minutes shitting on Ukraine and then gives his best hand-wringing sympathies to the people of Ukraine?
	Fuck off, Russell.
	You're a pro-Putin, Russian propagandist, spouting idiot who does more harm to the Ukraine than most Russian soldiers have ever managed.
	Now.
	Now.
	Just like a gaffe.
	Is this what we have?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is it.
	This is it.
	It's fucking weak tea.
	So Biden, he said Ukraine where he meant to say Congress.
	Big fucking whoop.
	Old man who famously struggles with public speaking says wrong word in a speech.
	But no, we have to make as much fucking hay out of it as possible and this is a damn near daily occurrence on Stay Free with Russell Brand and it's as pathetic and transparent as ever.
	I've mostly included that there clip because it's something that I want you to bear in mind for later.
	Right, right, right.
	But before we move on, I do want to briefly touch on the journalist dying in prison that Russell was talking about, Gonzalo Lira.
	Very naturally, Russell, Tucker, and all their ilk are using this story to say, Aha!
	See?
	Zelensky is assassinating dissenting voices in Ukraine!
	While, of course, making absolutely zero mention of Putin's well-documented history of imprisoning, assassinating, or disappearing journalists.
	This is where my head went!
	Yeah, it's been a whole thing.
	Russell's been hammering on it hard.
	Tucker did a full 20 minutes on it.
	So yeah, let's take a quick look at the reality of the situation.
	So Gonzalo Lira was a Chilean-American novelist, filmmaker, and political commentator, YouTuber, and self-styled dating coach.
	Oh, I'm out, bye.
	That's an interesting addition on the end there, isn't it?
	Where is the button for that trap door?
	Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Your instincts are finely tuned because he was involved in the Manosphere, posting anti-feminist content under the name of Coach Red Pill.
	According to him, women are whores and damaged and should be treated exactly like dogs.
	Well, sir, this is a Wendy's.
	What are we doing?
	Oh boy.
	Great.
	Yeah.
	He was living in Kharkiv when the Russian military launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine back in February 2022.
	Lera gained a following by posting online content hostile to the Ukrainian government and its president Zelensky.
	He branded Zelensky a cokehead and described the Russian operation as one of the most brilliant invasions in military history.
	On the merits of that statement alone.
	I don't know.
	I don't know, but I can think of more successful, brilliant ones.
	Yeah, I mean, from the last century alone, there are definitely better ones.
	I mean, and also, many times in history, somebody really scary has shown up and people are like, okay!
	I'd say those are the most effective.
	Yeah, probably.
	Is the non-military at all.
	Military just gets dressed and goes to work and that's kind of it.
	I'd say that's the most efficient and effective.
	Yeah.
	One guy shows up and the whole place goes, yep.
	He's like, alright!
	We're yours now.
	Where are your diplomats?
	Where would you like us to send our taxes now?
	Okay, we'll figure it out.
	That's fine.
	Those are, I'd say, the most...
	Impressive.
	Yes, I would agree.
	Lyra was arrested by Ukraine's internal security agency, the SBU, on May 1st, 2023 before being released on bail.
	He subsequently released a video saying he was going to try and leave the country before being almost immediately rearrested for breaching his bail conditions.
	One of the usual conditions of bail, for reference to anyone who doesn't know, is that you have to stay in the country That's pretty normal everywhere.
	Flight risk is the phrase that we commonly use.
	And this guy was a literal flight risk.
	Speaking about Lyra's arrest, the Ukrainian government's Center for Strategic Communication and Information Security, also known as Spravdi, said Lyra had been charged with justifying Russian aggression against Ukraine in violation of Article 463-2 of the country's criminal code.
	As for his death, well obviously he was back in prison for breaching the terms of his bail and this is from a letter sent to his sister.
	Quote, I have had double pneumonia, both lungs, as well as pneumothorax and a very severe case of edema, swelling of the body.
	All this started in mid-October but was ignored by the prison.
	They only admitted I had pneumonia at a December 22nd hearing.
	I'm about to have a procedure to reduce the edema pressure in my lungs which is causing the extreme shortness of breath to the point of passing out after minimal activity or even just talking for two minutes.
	He later died at the age of 55 in Kharkiv Hospital where he was being treated for his pneumonia.
	His father, Gonzalo Lira Sr., has asserted that his son was tortured, extorted, and incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days.
	And listen, I'm not going to come for someone who's grieving over the death of their child.
	But there is no evidence to support what he's saying, and the last post to Lira Jr.' 's ex account was from July 31st, 2023, so less than 6 months ago.
	Despite this, Gonzalo Senior was the one in direct contact with Tucker Carlson, who then took everything the guy said and ran with it.
	Also, none of those things that you listed deserve the death penalty.
	And it's a little sad for me to know that, well, this happens in American prisons all the time.
	Being common doesn't mean any of it's right, but that still isn't polonium poisoning.
	Right, exactly.
	So in summary, what happened is this guy fucked around with the laws of the country in wartime Found out and went to jail, was released on bail, fucked around some more by trying to flee the country, and went to prison, where he subsequently got pneumonia, which was then treated, and then he sadly died.
	If Lira Jr.' 's account that his symptoms weren't recognized or treated for two months, then yes, that is absolutely a problem that deserves scrutiny.
	But the problem is, by him repeatedly lying about anything the Ukraine or Zelensky do or have done, we can't exactly just take his word for it that they didn't treat his illness in an appropriate amount of time.
	It's kind of a boy who cries wolf situation.
	Also, and this is something to note purely because of the way it's being used by Tucker and Russell,
	the man was not a journalist. He was a content creator and Russian propaganda mouthpiece,
	but he was not a journalist. He's never worked for any journalistic institution,
	be it legacy media or independent, and I don't think any of the things that he
	posted could be described as journalistic in nature.
	Okay. Well!
	That's the thing that I... Excuse me, sir.
	That's the red flag for me.
	It's really important to bear in mind, right?
	Because had an American actual journalist been over in the Ukraine reporting on the war and they'd been imprisoned, there would have been a very different fucking response from the US government and the media as a whole.
	And if you're interested in counterexamples, anyone, take a look at the many, many actual journalists that Putin has had killed or disappeared or imprisoned, which again, goes completely unmentioned by these dickheads.
	But, you know, generally there is coverage somewhere in the media of these things happening when we find out about them.
	Yeah, well, and this is a very unfortunate, very fucking unfortunate reality.
	We just were talking about this a little bit off air before we started recording, but like the very unfortunate reality that like, Circumstances around the prison industrial complex in whatever given area do affect how prisoners and inmates are cared for.
	So even just prisons being worse because of war.
	Is a reality in and of itself that needs to be addressed.
	And also, I would hope that if Mystery, the pickup artist, does something similar, that calling him a journalist is a little rich.
	It's a bit of a stretch.
	It felt like a little bit much to me, yeah.
	That's what I thought.
	Kind of wild.
	Yeah, yeah, yes.
	But you know, Russell and Tucker are treating this guy as a martyr to the cause because they can.
	So yeah, it's a good time, good times.
	Anyway, we get back to DeSantis talk, this time showing Trump's speech responding to DeSantis dropping out.
	Let's have a look at Donald Trump conveying his largesse to Ron DeSantis and there's a bit where he's even going to retire the nickname.
	Is it Meatball Ron or the Sanctimonious?
	Meatball Ron is still keeping going.
	Before we begin I'd like to take time to congratulate Ron DeSantis and of course a Really terrific person who had gotten to know his wife Casey for having run a great campaign for President.
	That's the next thing he does, getting to know his wife Casey.
	Just sort of like, that's just how his mind, that's where it took him next, his mind.
	And what will I say?
	He trusts himself, doesn't he?
	And I think that in this time of universal treachery, where you know that the current
	incumbent is not even really capable of authenticity, because as he said himself, when on the campaign
	trial to Wall Street, nothing will fundamentally change in spite of all the external rhetoric,
	in spite of all the will make Saudi Arabia a pariah behind closed doors to financial
	donors, he said nothing will change.
	Yeah, no, I didn't say that.
	We've covered that before.
	He was telling an audience of people to vote against their own interests because if they voted for him, they'd be paying more in taxes, but it would be better for the country.
	Biden saying that nothing will fundamentally change comment was him trying to assuage fears that suddenly these people would be down here with the rest of us.
	What Biden was saying was basically, hey, vote for me and you'll still be rich.
	Don't worry.
	You'll just be a little bit less rich and you can feel like you really took one for the team when you do it.
	Tell all your friends about your gracious sacrifice for the good of the country.
	Also, results?
	What actually happened?
	Yeah, no idea.
	From that, specifically.
	Yeah, what I'm saying is, there's not... I don't know.
	I have a hard time...
	Calling back to, like, you know what, in the first year of a presidency... Oh, this is from 2020 as well.
	That's what I'm saying.
	This is from the 2020 election, you know?
	Right.
	Yes.
	And I'm saying that, like, I don't think that we get to even, unless we are examining campaign promises versus campaign delivery, like delivery on promises, why are we still talking about that?
	Why are we even talking about it?
	You want to call it hypocrisy?
	Do it!
	There's plenty.
	It's something that Russell can remember in the moment, that's why.
	That's why it's come up.
	It's just off the top of the dome.
	And yeah, needing political donors is gross from the outset, but let's at least address what Biden's saying honestly, and you can critique it from there.
	You can make a reasonable critique.
	I have plenty of complaints about the same moment!
	Just come at it from a way that's got a little squash of reality in it.
	Like, you can complain.
	I have a million complaints.
	I'm not thrilled about any of it.
	But like... No, it's all terrible.
	But, you know, at least base it in reality.
	Because you can.
	You can make legitimate complaints.
	As for Trump trusting himself when he speaks, that's absolutely fucking true.
	If there was ever a politician with a lack of a filter, it's this guy.
	Which is why his unfiltered mind went immediately and very obviously from Ron DeSantis to, oh yeah, that guy's wife is pretty hot, isn't she?
	I've been trying to hit that for a while.
	Like, that's definitely where his mind went.
	I say that's a leap, but also just... Okay, maybe I'm not being very generous with his thought patterns, but somebody proved me wrong based on the life and times of Donald J. Trump that that's exactly what he was thinking at the moment.
	I mean, he's old too.
	I mean...
	Well, I don't know.
	But even just like, that's pandering!
	It's pandering on its face!
	It's like, yeah!
	Talking about some- The thing is, is also, it's nice to mention somebody's wife when they've done a lot of work.
	Good.
	It's the easiest possible thing that every single politician should be able to say, but also nepotism, because you should be hiring people to do your job, not just hiring your wife and children!
	So we know maybe that's a little more like, to me, what Trump is still very involved in right now.
	I was going to say, I think you might be saying that to the wrong politician.
	I mean, I know exactly who I'm listening to.
	Yeah, great way to keep it in the fam, dawg, I think is what, you know?
	I mean, be nice to people's spouses, that's great, but like, maybe open up the hiring pool in a political sphere.
	That's all.
	Maybe not a bad idea.
	Either way, that right there, that whole thing is what we need more of, according to Russell.
	We're going to move on a little, and we have a tease for what we've all been waiting for, which is Russell talking about Soros, but first we have a little bit of a linguistic discussion.
	We've got an interesting story about Alex Soros, son of George Soros, turning up in Ireland, meeting the, I'm going to say the Irish Prime Minister, but I know that ain't the right word.
	It's like the Diocege or the Teocege.
	You know, like often to an English person, a lot of Irish spelling is difficult, but I recognise that there's no sort of objectivity, I suppose, with the use of the language.
	Otherwise you wouldn't have a word like two or that G and H in the middle of a word like night.
	I think you mean Knigget, Russell, get it right.
	Yeah, heavily curated content, this one.
	Hard-hitting stuff.
	The leader of Ireland is their Tíseach, which is spelt T-A-O-I-S-E-A-C-H.
	So the A-O-I sounding out as an E, the S, like the T is just a T, the S often softens to a sh sound, the E-A reads like red or bed, and the C-H works the same way as it does in Welsh with a ch, right, so Tíseach.
	The reason I'm bringing this up is that it was a couple of months now since Russell covered the white nationalist riot that happened in Dublin, and through the entire thing he called the leader of Ireland the Irish Prime Minister, which just isn't the correct title.
	It's come up occasionally since then, and every time, oh it's the Irish Prime Minister, and now he's at least gone so far as to entirely butcher- I was going to say, the comments finally got to him.
	Yeah, no, he's gone so far as to entirely butcher the pronunciation before again saying Irish Prime Minister.
	Well, in another, what, four or five months he'll get there.
	Maybe, maybe.
	Tíosach translates to chief or leader.
	It's written into the Irish constitution as such.
	It has comparable roots in Scottish Gaelic, so Tósach, and Tawasog in Welsh.
	It's a title steeped in history and meaning and I dare say is of enough importance for the Irish people to use that word for their leader instead of Prime Minister very intentionally.
	And Russell is such a lazy piece of shit that he or a member of his staff can't even be bothered to Google the pronunciation of the word which takes all of 10 seconds.
	He'll get there!
	They'll Google it in March.
	Listen, and we'll be here when they finally nail it and we'll throw a little ticker tape parade.
	I will!
	I believe he'll get there.
	Enough voice messages will come through the rumble chat or something.
	Yeah, I'm far less optimistic than you, but we shall see.
	Sorry for the slight diversion.
	It's just disrespectful.
	It's been pissing me off for literal months.
	Sure.
	Also, optimism is not motivating my claim.
	It's something.
	Entirely fair.
	God bless him.
	Bless his heart.
	Anyway, that little bit works as a lead-in to, not the Alex Soros story, but actually a little bit more Trump talk, for fuck's sake.
	Yeah, I know.
	This is a longer clip, but bear with me.
	You know, the English language is pretty crazy, has all sorts of odd things going on.
	But is it as odd as what goes on in Donald Trump's shower?
	At this point, he's literally just doing stand up.
	He's got that audience in the palm of his hand.
	Check this out.
	So, you know, little things like You sink, you know, you buy a sink and no water comes out because they have regulators on the water.
	Even if you're in a state where water comes out of heaven all day long, it doesn't make any difference.
	When you take a shower, I like to have, you know, I have this gorgeous head of hair.
	I like my gorgeous head of hair.
	Now, You know, we've all seen him.
	Do you remember when he was president and he went on Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Fallon done that thing where he ruffled his hair where the hair was a very sort of like was a real front, wasn't it?
	There was one of the interfaces upon which he was steadily and readily attacked.
	And now he does that joke.
	He does that joke.
	Gorgeous head of hair.
	That's comedic.
	You know when you're doing screen writing, like if you're writing a play, a screenplay excuse me, I once went on a course right to like learn how you write screenplays and it's pretty interesting because they teach you about archetypes.
	This was a guy called Bob McGee, very sort of influential teacher who was played by Brian Cox out of Succession and Hannibal Lecter in a film called Adaptations starring Nick Cage and he tells you stuff like if you want a character to be liked by your audience They have to either be brave or they have to be vulnerable and he added another thing using Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.
	He said if a character is funny people will like that character and you think about it like a character like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day there's no real reason to like him except he's kind of funny from the get-go.
	Trump's funny.
	It's another thing that people are not including in their ongoing analysis or indeed condemnation of him.
	Russell, are you saying that if you're funny, you can get away with bullshit because people will forgive you?
	Are we sure we should be saying that into a fucking camera with a microphone recording your words?
	Okay, this is a little...
	Am I being, is this a prank?
	I feel like I'm being pranked.
	You're being punked.
	Yeah.
	It feels a little bit like that.
	And, and, and I mean, you know, the, if you, if you rewatch Groundhog Day, you know, Bill Murray's character does, does not come across as great in hindsight, you know?
	But yeah.
	I mean, that's entirely true though.
	Like, yeah, that's, that's part of an adaptation.
	I love adaptations.
	So like, yeah, that's, that's, And I forgot Brian Cox.
	He was taught by that guy.
	He was taught by the guy that Brian Cox played.
	Sure.
	But also, yeah, anyway, that's a digression.
	But like, okay, the amount of work that Russell has to do to even get to praise is Just he's running a marathon to get to a place where he can like, it sounds like praise and it's such a stretch.
	Yeah, I think you've kind of already touched on a big problem that we have here.
	He's being given too much time and too much free reign and he'll just like, oh yeah, I'll tell this story about archetypes.
	All he had to say there was, Trump is funny, isn't he?
	And people don't seem to acknowledge that enough.
	And out of interest, do you find Trump funny, Lauren?
	By which I mean the jokes that Trump makes.
	Because there's a distinction, right?
	Oh, well, I think that dad's getting whacked in the nuts of the whiff of all that by their kid on video.
	That makes me chuckle.
	That's funny.
	So in that regard, or like cats falling off of shelves, cats pulling an AC unit out of the wall and falling over.
	Yeah.
	Oh man, or taking down a whole TV.
	Hilarious.
	And I feel at this point, and what else is funny is like, at least in my content sphere, and the leftist kind of content sphere, some more positive and some more nihilistic, I think, than others, have admitted that like, I mean, he's funny.
	Just in a way that dad getting whacked in the nuts is funny.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And, you know, I think the cat pulling over the TV is kind of an apt comparison because, like, it's funny as long as it's not your TV.
	Exactly.
	Exactly that.
	Trump is pulling over the TV that is America.
	From my perspective, I can and will often laugh at Trump for being a dumbass.
	At, not with.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I can't recall even once laughing with Trump at something that he said.
	And really, I do wonder whether the political divide can be summed up as succinctly as that.
	Like, there are those who laugh at Trump's jokes and those who do not, and that's fucking it.
	Well, I mean, there have been moments that are funny because he's also like, he is a person who has been publicly affable and entertaining.
	For decades.
	So he's gonna, like, he's gonna nail it occasionally.
	Yeah, he's got the charisma and all that.
	Right, like, someone having, like, saying such absurd things.
	Yeah, they're funny sometimes.
	I think that there was a reluctance, and justifiably, there was a reluctance, especially, like, in the news, when they should have been reluctant to cover Trump as a sensational attention grab.
	They should have been reluctant for that, but they were reluctant to admit that he said things that give you a chuckle.
	And I think that now we're at least past that.
	We're all kind of grownups understanding that that is part of what is working in his favor.
	And we need to look at the boots on the ground concerns of like, OK, well, what's working for him?
	And we need to admit it.
	We just need to admit it and be realistic about it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's no sense being macabre about the whole situation, you know.
	Because it's not accurate.
	Every time you cover him, just be like, meh.
	Yeah, being inaccurate isn't going to help your cause.
	Yeah, no, no.
	It sounds like denial because it is.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's what's happening.
	There it is.
	Anyway, Russell thinks that Trump is hilarious.
	Do you know, there was a time where it was quite obvious to me that a lot of the Trump love from Russell was sycophantic in nature, insincere, but he wanted to toe the line that his audience wants, as we saw in the poll just now.
	But by this point, I do think that Russell is very genuinely charmed by the man, which is making it even more gross to me.
	Is what tells me, at least on some level, he identifies with Trump because he's funny enough to get away with bullshit.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So yeah, the motivation is pretty apparent here.
	The parallels between the two people are kind of interesting when you start to examine them, and not in a good way.
	Interesting in an academic kind of way.
	A damning way, I think.
	Interesting for psychologists to examine in the years to come.
	So we're going to move on, but we're still talking about Trump.
	We're still talking about Trump.
	But this time we're going to move over to how the left and the legacy media are covering him.
	Vodka Rob.
	People seem to forget that Hitler was a socialist.
	Yes, of course, Nazism is an idiom or phrase derived from nationalism and socialism.
	It was a kind of Germany first for the workers ideal that was, of course, tragically infused with racism, hatred, genocide and warmongering.
	Let's have a look at Morning Joe being You know, sort of reductive, haughty, supercilious, condemnatory, damning, ordinary people with a kind of metropolitan loathing that we're only too accustomed to by now.
	Really?
	We have to get that.
	We'll get to the Hitler stuff in a second.
	Coming up!
	Coming up indeed.
	2024, Hitler, Mach 2.
	Vote Trump, everybody.
	So, what happened at the beginning of that clip was interesting.
	So, a member of the Rumble Chat very obviously attempted to shit on socialism, right, which you picked up on, by saying, aha, Hitler was a socialist.
	I really thought that was done.
	I really did.
	I was like, the whole internet, guys.
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	They still, they still.
	I know.
	I know.
	I have to be reminded.
	Communism is Mao, you know, it's the whole thing.
	National.
	National.
	But, come on.
	Russell, knowing the actual meaning of socialism, because he used to pretend to be one, pivoted back to what Nazism was actually about, and describes it as a kind of Germany first for the workers' ideal that was tragically infused with racism, hatred, genocide, and war.
	War mongering.
	Now, genocide is a critique that can, at this point, best be levelled at the current president, but the rest of that stuff, if you replace Germany with America, first being infused with racism, hatred and war mongering, it begins to feel very fucking familiar, doesn't it?
	Ding, ding, ding.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yadda yadda yadda, no wars while Trump was in office and all that bullshit, but he fucking well wanted to bomb both North Korea and Iran, you know, so hold your horses on that one, Trumpers.
	Also, the time that I've spent living in this country Is, I have seen, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is just, this is my overview of conservative presidents, right-wing presidents, making royal fucking shit messes that land right on the liberals doorstep whenever they get into power and they are terrible at handling it.
	You would think that the Democrats You know, capital D, and liberals, neolibs in general, would be a little better prepared knowing that they are going to be wading into a diarrhea pool as soon as it happens.
	Should be used to it by now.
	Yeah, maybe be a little better prepared.
	Maybe try to do something about that rather than just wandering into this nightmare and be like, oh no, I'm covered in...
	I've been covered in spikes in this crazy spike forest.
	Like, come on!
	Yeah, this is something that happens over and over and then they can blame it on the person that has to deal with the consequences.
	A hundred percent.
	Guys!
	No one's good!
	What are we doing?
	It's just... And again, to speak to the no wars under Trump thing, it's like, well, okay, he didn't start any foreign wars, okay, but I feel like the country... He could have, with the murder!
	He could have, and wanted to, and kind of tried to a couple of times.
	Thankfully, there were people around him who treated him like a literal child and prevented him from doing so.
	And also, I will say, he did kind of ignite something of a civil war within the country.
	So, you know, there is also that, if you really want to kind of examine it properly in full focus.
	But, you know, maybe that's just me.
	But even with his foreign policy, It's not for lack of trying.
	Like, it just didn't happen.
	Not for lack of trying.
	Especially in that final year, he was really fucking pushing for one.
	He wanted to have that to see him through.
	He literally, he had watched House of Cards and was like, I need to do that.
	He watched George Bush.
	I need to do that.
	He watched Bush Jr.
	Yeah, he was there for 9-11.
	Yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	He was very happy that his building was now doing better.
	Yeah.
	What a piece of shit.
	Anyway, all of that about Hitler and all of that, and not even a moment of self-reflection there from Russell before he just starts throwing shit at MSNBC and their Morning Joe show, and let's hear what Morning Joe has to say about Trump.
	Donald Trump Isn't that, well, we know this.
	That's the sort of, like, what are you saying, man?
	What's that about?
	That's why they got excited when he had those red things on his hand.
	Some of you, like, in the chat said that was from golf, huh?
	Like he plays golf or whatever.
	But like, that's, sometimes I feel bad when we are rude about Joe Biden, when we go like, oh, he looks like a waxing cadaverous, near zombie, emerging from the sepulchre, a tomb dweller, a death cheater.
	I don't feel good about it, because I think, oh, he's a human being.
	Sure, mate.
	He just reeled off a five-finger list.
	I feel bad about that.
	Yeah we are mucking around and we're comedians they're meant to be sort of like we're the news we're all serious and better than you do as we tell you and they're still sort of making kind of personal jibes stupid.
	But this guy, he's looking so old, he's shuffling around, he's going through... You can't attack, if the guy you're supporting is Joe Biden, who won't stand in primaries and can't stand very well at all, who goes into bike shops and seems to be baffled and confused by helmets mistaken for tiny little round people, you can't attack Donald Trump for his Cognitive abilities.
	You see the dude day after day being amusing and present on stage.
	That is not the issue.
	We are up on locals.
	Time now to become an awakened wonder.
	If you're watching us on YouTube, someone here said, uh, wouldn't care about his elder abuse to keep Joe Biden in power.
	I do think we're at that point now.
	I do agree with you.
	Yep.
	Um, so I sniff those helmets and that is an interesting comment in context.
	Well done.
	Good work guys.
	Gross.
	Okay.
	Good work, guys.
	Good work.
	That was so, like, you just said it.
	Russell, take your own advice.
	Or just embrace it!
	Just be like, fuck yeah, I hate this guy and I like this other one because that's what's happening.
	Again, let's just be fucking real here.
	Sir.
	I hate that I feel like these people are all so wacky that I have to start saying, sir, to pretend in my mind to get, like, they're not hearing me.
	And I still feel like I have to be especially polite to get their attention in my mind.
	That's how, like, unhinged this kind of, like, really blatant, like, hypocrisy shakes out.
	Okay.
	Do it or don't.
	Do it or don't.
	I don't know if it's the same in the US, but helmet over here is another euphemism for the tip of one's penis.
	So when that commenter said, oh yeah, sniff the helmets, that's why Russell was like, oh good work guys, good work.
	No, no, it's because Joe Biden sniffs women's hair.
	I think that's what that was referring.
	Sniffs women's hair, and then he got confused about helmets in a bike shop, according to Russell.
	But helmets is also a double entendre, and that's what Russell is finding hilarious.
	I guess.
	I didn't get that, but okay.
	It's a British thing, I think.
	I think that's why.
	I see him.
	I understand this guy's fucking sense of humor.
	First thing to deal with here is the incredibly obvious.
	Not ten minutes before in this show, Russell was having a merry old time taking the piss out of Joe Biden for mixing up his words.
	He does this often, even if it's just a look in Biden's eyes or a weird motion that, say, an old guy might do, Russell seizes on it at every available opportunity and is merciless in his mocking of Joe Biden.
	He said it!
	It's all just that he said it!
	According to his telling of it, Morning Joe are doing the same thing here.
	They're making personal jibes, which is stupid, and they clearly just have nothing to level at Donald Trump.
	And, you know, he can do it because he's a comedian, despite calling himself a journalist I don't know how many fucking times.
	But no, I'm a comedian, I can do it.
	They're supposed to be the news.
	And it's elder abuse to keep Joe Biden in office.
	Let's ignore that Trump is only three years younger, shall we?
	It's such an obvious and transparent hypocritical double standard.
	It's a wonder that any of Russell's fans can think at all with this much cognitive dissonance going on, but hey, maybe that's the point.
	Anyway, What I really want to deal with is, I don't know if you noticed, but there was an obvious edit in the middle of that morning Joe clip.
	They all jumped just a little bit.
	I saw that.
	The clip itself just seems to kind of come in out of nowhere as well and jump about a bit to present a very specific image of what was said.
	Yeah.
	Would you like to see the full clip, Lauren?
	Oh boy.
	This also, it was already bad.
	All right.
	Let's party.
	Yeah.
	Let's take a look at what they were Actually saying on Morning Joe and it begins with a clip from Trump himself.
	The president of the United States, and I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about any president, has to have immunity.
	Because if you take immunity away from the president, so important, you will have a president that's not going to be able to do anything.
	Because when he leaves office, the opposing party president, if it's the opposing party, will indict the president for doing something that should have been good.
	Like Obama dropped missiles and they ended up hitting a kindergarten or a school or an apartment house.
	A lot of people were killed.
	Well, if that's the case, he's going to end up being indicted when he leaves office.
	He meant well the missile went in the wrong direction and other things.
	and other things.
	There's so much Willie wrong with that.
	Wait, wrong?
	What president?
	He's talking about Obama.
	He's still, first of all, we have to get the,
	we'll get to the Hitler stuff in a second.
	But let's start though with- - I'll make a chart.
	The fact that Donald Trump is not well, we know this.
	Oh, God, yes. (laughs)
	But this guy, he's looking so old, he's shuffling around, and he really does think that Barack Obama is still President of the United States.
	He's going through this thing, and then about why he should have total immunity, total immunity even when he crosses the line.
	Right, this is the SEAL Team 6 can assassinate.
	And by the way, Jonah Goldberg, I think it was this morning, Jonah Goldberg tweeted out this morning, what do Trump supporters say who believe that SEAL Team 6 can assassinate political rivals?
	What do they say if someone says, well then Joe Biden could order SEAL Team 6 this morning to assassinate Donald Trump?
	And he would be immune by Donald Trump's arguments.
	It is pure, sheer authoritarianism and tyranny.
	So we have that part of it.
	It is Trump at his most dangerous, but also Trump at his most detached from reality.
	He's really losing it.
	We've been getting glimpses now of him shuffling around and looking lost.
	And getting up on stage, talking about World War II, talking about President Obama, and here he did it again and said, listen, President Obama may have bombed kindergartens, but he was trying to do good things.
	And when he leaves office, when he leaves office, he could face a conviction.
	It's crazy.
	Yeah, isn't it amazing how legacy media has nothing to say when you intentionally take out all of the times that they have things to say?
	Yeah, there's a lot to talk about with maliciously editing a piece so that it says something different to what the author intended, but this particular choice speaks volumes to me as to what Team Stay Free did with this clip.
	Um, because Russell could have included the entire piece, right?
	He could have included Trump getting the name Obama mixed up, and by the way, happens a lot, and there are some fun super cuts out there of him doing exactly that.
	Happens way more than I realized it did.
	Um, Russell could have included that anyway, that little clip there.
	As well as the parts about Trump wanting to ensure he has total immunity from prosecution if he ever regains the presidency.
	And Russell could have tackled these and mocked and hand-waved them away.
	That's his usual tactic.
	But in this case, the evidence must be considered too substantive to simply wave to the side.
	It's too damaging to his audience's perception of Trump, and it's too damaging for Russell supporting Trump for him to air the full clip.
	Like, this is the first time I recall seeing Russell too scared to show something to his audience, and that is fascinating to me.
	I mean, the argument could be made that it's shorter, because, you know, whatever.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know.
	I feel like he's got plenty of space on this show.
	He's doing some talking.
	Yeah.
	Well, also, like, that might be an antiquated notion that we need to maybe get a little more out of these clips there.
	But because, like, yeah, I mean, I don't have much love for MSNBC's approach either.
	I've noticed very often that yeah, they can be real smug fucks like that and there's no use to that.
	I did also identify with her instinct and if you weren't watching to see that the female Anchor.
	Thank you, anchor.
	She has a little legal pad, and everybody was talking, and then she's like, I'm going to make a chart.
	And she drew lines.
	And then she was also like, oh, we're not going anywhere either.
	All right.
	And then got her coffee.
	She was like, let's get down to it.
	Because she actually wanted to talk about the issue at hand, and it was more kind of like, I don't like Joe either.
	You know what I mean?
	The thing is, I can't even necessarily... I mean, it's all so amorphous, like riffing, right?
	It's so much riffing.
	I don't even know if Trump is getting the name wrong because Trump just kind of...
	goes wherever Trump's gonna go.
	And Trump has very publicly hated Obama for, like, and used Obama as this, like, monster, you know?
	Like, his built-up Obama.
	I'm not even necessarily concerned so much about that as I am the other stuff that he said.
	Like...
	Yes, the immunity from prosecution thing, even when crossing the line, which he did tweet out, they showed the tweet on the thing, that is much more concerning than the senility that is fairly obviously occurring.
	Because presidents shouldn't be immune from getting convicted of crimes that they committed.
	No, that's how you get dictators.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Let's talk about that part.
	Let's just focus on that and let's talk about that.
	Can we talk about that?
	That's the bigger problem there.
	My priority.
	Crazy, I know.
	It is interesting to me that the senility kind of part was also removed.
	It shows a very clear editorial decision from Russell.
	No, no, no.
	We're going to paint Joe Biden as the old one who forgets everything and mixes names up, and we're going to paint Trump as the funny, clever, charismatic one on a stage.
	That's what we're going to do.
	Yeah, to even cut it out from the other side to make that very concise misdirect.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Exactly, exactly.
	I'm on board with your assessment.
	Slightly baffling, um, is that, you know, rather than go through all this work, he could have just not covered this.
	Like, the world would be none the wiser, no one in his audience would give a single shit.
	Like, the only reason I can think of to air this is to try and silence critics like me, who say that Russell only ever covers one side of an issue in earnest.
	And if that is the reason he aired it, if that was the intention, Russell, you did a bad job and you made it worse.
	Also, I think that MSNBC is shorthand, you know, it's like shorthand for a liberal media complex.
	Like that's what I mean for the MAGA base.
	Oh, that was, that was, I mean, that was before they even started talking.
	That was in his introduction, wasn't it?
	You know, super cilious and haughty and blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, buddy.
	Okay.
	Oh dear.
	Now, we have another unusual thing happen in today's show, and it's normally preceded by a jarring bleep, but today we get a live on-air ad read.
	You may be wondering, aside from my haircut, what is it that's keeping me looking so vital, young, and wide awake?
	Could it be these Black Forest supplements?
	NMNs.
	These are a kind of derivative B vitamin.
	They play a vital role in energy production.
	And I'm packing, baby.
	Muscle regeneration.
	And I'm getting ready for pull-up competitions.
	Metabolism.
	You've got to metabolize.
	And gene expression in the body.
	What do they do, these NMNs?
	I hear you ask.
	Not literally.
	And I know you're not saying M&M because, you know, like a head trip to listen to all that stuff.
	It replenishes declining NAD plus levels which drop around 1% a year, meaning if you're 50, half your youthful levels of NAD plus have vanquished, perished, been gone!
	So listen, I take these things to make myself feel a little bit more vital.
	A little more amped up.
	Yeah, pull-up competition 33 GO.
	I was going to do one with Bobby Kennedy and it may yet happen.
	Please God.
	Since I've been taking these things, I reckon it's given me an extra rep or two.
	Plus, I think I'm drinking less coffee.
	Plus, I'm feeling more awake.
	Plus, I'm feeling vitalized.
	Now listen, we can get you a deal on these things in spite of the fact that Big Pharma are trying to shut it down.
	They want NMN to be sort of regulated in a different way and registered as a Big Pharma kind of drug rather than as a supplement.
	You want to try it?
	Do you want to try it?
	It's good for anti-aging and for the next 48 hours you can get 25% off if you go to blackforestsupplements.com forward slash Russell.
	Okay, so there's a link in the description.
	Post it now, post it even on YouTube.
	I'm using this stuff and it's really working and the geezer I do BJJ with, my teacher Chris Clear, he says he's getting reps out of it.
	We're all doing it in the BJJ community and I'm telling you now, some of them chokes are getting proper deadly.
	What's just occurred to me is that his promo code is always like it'll always be the link and then at the end it'll be Russell and what's just occurred to me is how many of his audience spell his name incorrectly?
	You're bringing this observation to the table because none of us are aware.
	One L?
	Either one L or one S, invariably, which is sadder.
	But yes, most of them will spell his name incorrectly.
	So I have to wonder just how many missed sales.
	Yeah, where?
	I wonder how many missed sales he's getting just from that, you know?
	Make it, like, stay free.
	Make it something really easy, you know?
	Apple.
	Just something.
	Instead of your name that people misspell constantly.
	I don't know if any amendments are going to help.
	Well, the thing is, you can spell it with one L. That is a valid spelling.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	Lots of people just assume that it's the one L. But no, he's got double doubles.
	But that also means branding.
	That's branding.
	And it is behind him.
	All of the excuses I'm making in my head are not holding up.
	They're not.
	You're being very generous.
	I'm going to stop.
	Oh dear.
	Anyway, that just occurred to me while the clip was playing.
	So yeah, taking supplements on air.
	Wonder where we've seen that before.
	Not a great look, but okay, whatever.
	It's a move.
	It's a move.
	Here Russell is selling some overpriced Black Forest capsules of NMN.
	60 capsules for just shy of $100.
	These are, by the way, the same people who tried to get the Merseyside sceptics to advertise their product, which did not go well.
	So what is NMN?
	Well, this is from Forbes.
	Quote, NMN is a naturally occurring molecule that, chemically speaking, classifies as a bioactive nucleotide.
	It's a precursor of nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, NAD+, And a driving force in the body's production of NAD+, which is an essential coenzyme involved in multiple biological processes including aging and gene expression.
	NAD plus is involved in turning the food we eat into energy for our cells, explains Katherine Piper, a registered and licensed dietician nutritionist in the states of Missouri and Illinois.
	It also helps enzymes that repair DNA and prevent damage to our cells.
	An NAD deficiency, NAD plus deficiency, can lead to potential health issues including age-related metabolic disorders, mental disorders, and neurodegenerative diseases.
	NMN appears in small amounts in various animal and plant food sources including broccoli, avocados, and cucumbers.
	Okay then.
	Russell says Big Pharma are trying to make it a pharma-type drug so they can make money off it, whereas actually what happened is the FDA had already classified NMN as being authorized for investigation as a new drug when a company in 2022 tried to register it as a new ingredient in a dietary supplement.
	Basically, they said, oh no, we don't know enough about this yet, and it could be pharmacological in nature, so you're just going to have to wait a minute so we can look into this.
	And since NMN's authorized investigation as a new drug happened before it was lawfully marketed as a dietary supplement, the FDA concluded that it should be excluded from the dietary supplement category until further notice.
	There's the official FDA ruling.
	Of course, that hasn't stopped a whole fuckload of places from selling it, and you can get it basically anywhere.
	Because the FDA is a little toothless, it turns out.
	So, what evidence is there that NMN works like Russell says it does?
	You might be wondering.
	Have there been extensive human trials?
	I'm not wondering that much, but I'll buy it!
	There are some small-scale human trials going on right now, but the results aren't in yet, and even when they are fully, they will be far from conclusive.
	So weird, right?
	So how have these claims that Russell's making been substantiated at all?
	Oh, that's right!
	It's by testing in mice.
	That creature that Russell says we can't possibly test any COVID-related drugs or vaccines on because mice aren't humans.
	But oh, a supplement you're supposed to take every single day from now until you die is completely fine!
	And spend $100 on a bottle!
	Yeah, and these are big pills as well, a thousand milligrams, right?
	But no, we can test those ones on the mice, and that's supposed to count as plenty of evidence of anti-aging and whatever the fuck else, so go give him money, I guess.
	In mice, is the thing.
	In mice!
	In mice.
	Well, this is it, right?
	It's painfully transparent, hypocritical bullshit, purely in service of profit, and that is it.
	There is no point here from this man, no values he has to fall back on.
	It all shifts with the sands of whatever's making him money at the time, and that is fucking it.
	We're not mice.
	No, no, we're not mice.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	And, you know, if his message was in any way consistent, then we can have a discussion on that.
	But no, that's the only way these things he's selling have been tested.
	So there we go.
	And he's just choking them down.
	Loves them every day, apparently.
	And the BJJ community.
	OK, sure.
	Oh, dear.
	I do at some point, this is a complete aside, but I do at some point want to do like a little mini investigation into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and like why it seems to appeal so strongly to a particular subset of very masculine kind of presenting men.
	I know a little bit and I, it's not.
	Okay.
	Because Jiu Jitsu and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
	Yeah.
	I know a little, and I'd like to get my T's crossed, because I only know what I've heard and learned.
	We'll avoid talking off the cuff for now.
	Didn't expect the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu moment.
	It's something that's bothered me for a while.
	It's not good.
	It's a big thing that Rogan's into.
	It's a whole thing.
	There are foreign policy implications, actually.
	It's really not great.
	Really?
	Okay, that's interesting.
	No, we should talk about it later.
	Pin in that.
	Pin in that for some other time.
	So, we're going to move on from the ad and we are finally going to get to Soros.
	Hey, listen guys, so let me know, take advantage of the 25% off, post the link in the description, give it over on the locals chat as well.
	Listen, have you seen that our man, Alex Soros, child of George Soros, has been cited with the Irish PM?
	Even though people tell you there's no such thing as globalism, here is the son of George Soros appearing.
	What's that on, number 12?
	Let me see that.
	Here he is, this is a Schellenberger tweet.
	The idea that George Soros controls politicians around the world is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory insists the media, but it's not a theory.
	Here's his son Alex with Ireland's Prime Minister who's at this moment seeking to seize control over the entire internet through hate speech legislation.
	Visit Alex Soros' x.com account and it's full of pictures of him with politicians from around the world.
	Why does he post them?
	Because he wants to advertise his power over them.
	George Soros was the largest donor to the Democrats in 2022, one of the largest donors to Biden and one of the largest donors To various NGO efforts demanding censorship around the world, including Media Matters.
	Alex today controls his father's political operation.
	Interesting.
	Let me know what you guys think about that.
	Fan Lobbying.
	That's it.
	Fan Lobbying.
	Done.
	That right there is the extent of the Soros coverage on this show.
	That's the bombshell reporting from Davos.
	It's Michael Schellenberger tweeting about something.
	It's looking at a tweet that says, look at this thing.
	Yep.
	100%.
	That's it!
	Schellenberger's nowhere near Davos.
	He's not there.
	He's never been there.
	I mean, for a start.
	Yeah, for a start, it's $19,000 for a ticket, so he's definitely not there.
	Anyway.
	Yeah, again, it's Tisha.
	To both of you, Russell Schellenberger, that's the word.
	Fucking Alex Soros got it right in his tweet.
	You could see that.
	He spelt it correctly and everything.
	Anyway, what the hell is Schellenberger rattling on about now?
	Well, it concerns Alex Soros, son of George Soros, and Alex Soros now runs the $25 billion Open Society Foundations as of June last year, right?
	George Soros has been an alt-right boogeyman for some time now, and Alex Soros is often considered worse by many of those people for the reason that, well, he's younger at the age of 38, and in Alex Soros' own words, he is more political.
	He's insisted the foundation will be championing its support for voting and abortion rights in particular in the coming years.
	Good, great.
	Open Society Foundations have their tagline as, quote, The Open Society Foundations work to build vibrant and inclusive democracies whose governments are accountable to their people, unquote.
	Now, this is a big year to be taking on that kind of mission, right?
	With a focus on encouraging people to vote and trying to get across the message that elections matter.
	Because there are elections happening this year that affect 4.2 billion people in the world, which is insane.
	It's historic, the number of elections that are happening this year.
	So you've got elections in Mexico, India, Indonesia, Canada, the UK, the US, Uruguay, Venezuela, Russia, Spain, dozens more countries there, right?
	As well as elections to the European Parliament as well, which is a whole other fucking mess.
	God, this is gonna suck.
	It's gonna be an interesting fucking year.
	Interesting year.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, I'm quietly hoping that nothing too insane happens, but you really just do not know these days.
	How?
	How could you think that?
	Yeah, I know.
	What?
	I said hoping.
	Hoping.
	So, why would Schellenberger and the cabal of alt-right shitheads not like this guy or the Open Society Foundations?
	Well, Soros is pretty left-wing, and it really is that simple.
	He's got a lot of money to be able to support and fund left-wing political aims, and that makes him an immediate target of the right.
	The OSF has been a major financial supporter of US immigration reform, including establishing a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
	They've supported the Organization for Black Struggle, done research on drug reform, and provided funding for university courses, programs,
	and research to serve neglected student populations worldwide.
	Including Ron DeSantis, did we cover that?
	Oh, no, no.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Rhonda Santis is one of the students that was facilitated through a Soros program.
	Oh, I see.
	I didn't know that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, dear.
	Yeah, there's a bunch more.
	A bunch more things that they do, like their funding analysis of global issues, like fueling violence, climate injustice and economic inequality, that kind of thing.
	But suffice to say, all of the things that they're doing are against the right-wing playbook, right?
	And that really is it.
	There's no great conspiracy, there's no great control being exerted over politicians or the world.
	He's not trying to fucking censor anybody, he's not got any big plans to shut down the internet and all of this stuff.
	It's money and influence and research.
	Well he does have, yeah, he has outsized influence because of money, and that buys power.
	And one might even be able to level an accusation against the open society, ignoring the fact that, but they want to work within a system.
	They don't want to tear one down.
	And while I don't think that's a good idea, and that's not what I would spend my energy doing, if I had that same, but also I understand why they don't want to undo the path that they think they have access through lobbying.
	I say ban lobbying full stop.
	Yeah, I mean the kind of... Because a lot of other problems would be fixed.
	Yes, no, absolutely, I completely agree.
	A lot of the things, like, the lobbying is one side of the coin, supporting NGOs is the other, and that's Schellenberger's problem here, is always funding NGOs who are trying to censor and shut people down on the internet.
	It's like, well, no, they're trying to stop...
	Disinformation.
	There are things that I assume that are Grant, you know, that's taking a shred that I'm not necessarily addressing.
	I completely agree with that.
	But I also just think that we're pitting NGOs against the government rather than because that's essentially what ends up happening.
	Yeah, it's the wrong way to go about it.
	It is the wrong way to go about it.
	It's an incredible amount of waste, and there's a lot of money that are put in pockets that shouldn't be.
	Through NGOs and through quote-unquote charity, that's not good, but it's not what the- If I could just hear Russell say ban lobbying once, one time, Or Schellenberger.
	Or fucking Taibbi.
	Or Lee Fang!
	When I can't speak to their content, I see Russell every week.
	It's all the same.
	It all matches the exact same narrative that we see on Russell's show.
	Can I speak to that?
	I can speak to this.
	Yeah, no, completely fair.
	But yeah, it's all money and influence and research, right?
	That's primarily what Alex Soros wields.
	But what is it that Schellenberger said?
	I'm going to read out that tweet again.
	So, the idea that George Soros controls politicians around the world is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, insists the media.
	But it's not a theory.
	Here's his son Alex with Ireland's Prime Minister, who is at this moment seeking to seize control over the entire internet through hate speech legislation.
	Bold fucking claim.
	Visit Alex Soros' ex-account and it's full of pictures of him with politicians from around the world.
	Why does he post them?
	Because he wants to advertise his power over them.
	George Soros was the largest donor to Democrats in 2022, one of the largest donors to Biden, and one of the largest donors to various NGO efforts demanding censorship around the world, including Media Matters.
	Alex today controls his father's political operation.
	That's what Schellenberger has to say there.
	Yes, it's, um... Yeah, he's advertising his power over all these politicians.
	That's what he's doing.
	Not that, you know, they had a conversation while at the WEF, you know, fucking thing in Davos, and snapped a pic, and were like, oh yeah, it was good to actually, you know, agree on some things, maybe.
	That, it's not possible that that happened.
	No, no, no.
	He takes a picture with them, posts it, and is like, ha!
	See?
	This one is mine!
	Right before he, I don't know, menacingly spins a dreidel or something.
	Well, that's just like, you're a sir, again, sir, please.
	Mr. Schellenberger, Esquire, right? Like you're assigning, like you're making leaps.
	That's also a leap, to assign and determine someone's motivation.
	It's a huge leap.
	When it can be so much simpler than that, ban lobbying.
	And also these fucking, what are they getting done?
	I mean, genuinely, all this, like, COP 20 whatever and the Davos and all this kind of shit, like, I'm Disgusted with the results of all of this quote unquote climate talk and you know all these like foreign policy we're all working shit out.
	Obviously what y'all are doing is not working.
	So everybody just like glad handing and taking pictures with each other.
	I'm also grossed out but I'm not I'm I'm that's not the right position to take if you want something to change and if you want The power of the people to have any say in the way that these things are run so yeah like it's just it's it's come on man.
	Yeah I don't just I don't disagree when you've got a collection of you know the richest people in the world and the most powerful people in the world you know.
	Telling us that we gotta recycle and flying their fucking private jets all over the place.
	Yeah, it's gonna be a little gross.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I've seen a couple, I've watched a couple of the conversations, a couple of the videos that have come out of this, but only the ones containing Alex Soros so far, you know, and there were interesting discussions around voting and disinformation and that kind of thing that are relevant to our Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	But in general, yes, there are huge fucking problems surrounding a lot of it.
	And there are very legitimate critiques, as always.
	There are very legitimate critiques to be leveled at this and at these people and at the whole thing.
	And, you know, the concept of billionaires from the very start- Are unethical.
	Exactly.
	There is no such thing as an ethical fucking billionaire.
	Exactly.
	And that's the only reason I bring it up, because this is just me off the cuff.
	And I know enough to know that he's misdirecting from the objective that we should be aiming at, which is taking money out of politics.
	Michael Schellenberger does not want to get rid of billionaires.
	He doesn't want to get rid of lobbying.
	He doesn't want to get rid of any of those things.
	He just wants to get rid of those on the left.
	He wants to get rid of left-wing billionaires.
	He wants to get rid of left-wing lobbyists.
	That's what he wants.
	He wants to keep his ones and get rid of all the ones he doesn't like.
	That's why he's taking issue with Alex Soros.
	I don't really think he wants to do that because then who would he bitch about?
	He'll find someone.
	He'll find someone else who maybe just so happens to be Jewish.
	There was a lot in that.
	I keep going through the tweet and I'm like, jeez, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a lot.
	So because he's a big funder, it means that he owns all of these people.
	If we were to do the same thing with Trump, who Trump is owned by, we'd be having to demonize Timothy Mellon of Pan Am Railways, or maybe Linda McMahon, for instance.
	It's just not as exciting as playing with antisemitism now, is it?
	Though, Linda McMahon, that's a whole fucking barrel of snakes.
	I don't know.
	I think examining the McMahons is very exciting and extremely damning.
	The McMahons are an interesting example of just human life full stop.
	Wow!
	In the cabinet, dog!
	What are we doing?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I didn't have a podcast to say that into when it was happening.
	So it was a little mini catharsis I just got to have.
	Is it terribly shocking that she was the fourth biggest donor to Trump and then ended up on the cabinet?
	Is that surprising to anyone?
	Maybe, maybe.
	I think that's more of a problem than someone like Alex Soros, personally.
	I think it's a problem across the board.
	You shouldn't be able to purchase your way into government and then enrich yourself, period.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And if, yeah, had Alex Soros done that, I'd be taking the same fucking issue with him.
	But nope, not what's a kid.
	Anyway, in the next clip, in the next clip, we finally get to the thing that Russell is using to sell his Locals channel, and before we get into it properly, we do get an example of Russell's little conditioning method at work.
	We're going to show you a little clip of the exclusive video that's only available for our Awakened Wonder community on Locals.
	We reported on the tragic fact that there's been an 8% increase in excess deaths of children in the last couple of years.
	Probably began around 2020, around that time.
	Let me know in the chat What could have happened around that era that potentially could have contributed and should at least be investigated?
	Click the link in the description.
	Join us over on Rumble now!
	Okay guys, let's, uh, should we, are we going to show a clip of that?
	I've not even seen this myself.
	I'm excited to see it.
	This is exclusively available for people like Claude, Achela, True Chimera, the supporters of our work over on Local.
	So, yeah, become one of our supporters, would you?
	I see that Laura and Lucy Lee, Jazzy Joe, they're already there.
	You guys can see it straight away.
	We'll do a bit of additional content, Rumble viewers, on Locals tonight, but it will be free for you.
	So we'll post a link in the description and you can join us for more information.
	Jennifer980, Covidshot, what has made you so cynical?
	What has done this to you?
	What indeed?
	What could have possibly drawn her to the conclusion that an 8% rise in child deaths in the UK is because of the COVID-19 vaccine?
	He hasn't even shown the content yet and his audience, they've already fucking got it.
	Already got it right out of the bag.
	He said 2020.
	When were children being vaccinated?
	Mm-hmm.
	When did that roll out?
	2021.
	It was a while before it was available to kids.
	It was late.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It was late before it was available to kids.
	It was at least the middle of 2021, if I'm recalling correctly.
	And that's also over here, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	On his face.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I kind of saw you kind of go static for a minute there.
	It's like, what the fuck is this?
	And that is the correct response to have.
	And yeah, there's a fair bit to say.
	So let's get into the little preview that Russell is willing to show the Rumble channel.
	Let's have a look at our report on excess deaths.
	Remember, this is only available to our locals community in full.
	Let's check it.
	There's been an 8% increase in excess deaths in children in the UK.
	But as a consultant paediatrician, I'd like to focus on children.
	The Child Mortality Database, National Child Mortality Database, collates data regarding children's deaths from 0 to 18.
	Their latest bulletin from March 23 shows there were sadly 3,743 child deaths to the end of March 23.
	Of course, do your own research is already being used as a kind of pro-conspiracy theorist attack line.
	Could the minister comment on her investigation into the cause of this increased mortality
	and what's being done to prevent further deaths?
	Of course, do your own research is already being used as a kind of pro-conspiracy theorist
	attack line.
	But I would say this, notice now how this story has been covered in legacy media and
	mainstream media.
	Have a look and see, for example, if there are documentaries about excess or sudden deaths
	that don't mention potential radical changes over the last few years and what is implied
	by the omission of those significant medical interventions of the last few years.
	Luckily, we have access to some reliable sources of information that we will be using throughout this video.
	And of course, as always, while on this platform, we studiously maintain that we are making no definitive claims about what's causing these deaths.
	How could you?
	Stay free!
	See it first on Rumble.
	Yeah, they make no definitive claims so that they are legally protected, but also there is a reason that this editorial is exclusive to Russell's Locals channel and it's not just to sell subscriptions.
	Obviously the thing is paywalled so I can't get at it properly right now, but Turbo cancers?
	there is a description that I'm able to read.
	It says, "This week, Dr. John Campbell highlights "the concerning rise in excess deaths among children.
	"Additionally, more pharmaceutical companies "are investing in turbo cancers.
	"Meanwhile, the WHO and Bill Gates,"
	it's an anti-vax conspiracy theory.
	Anti-vax conspiracy theory.
	We might deal with it down the line.
	Yeah, it's new, it's fun.
	"Meanwhile, the WHO and Bill Gates "address the importance of vaccines
	"in tackling disease X at Davos."
	Now, most of that, not particularly interested in.
	It's all anti-vax alarmist bullshit.
	But the part about the excess deaths in children, that struck me a particular way,
	especially as Dr. John Campbell has been a repeat guest on "Stay Free with Russell Brand," and, well,
	I'm not a particularly hateful person, Lauren.
	You know me well enough to know that, I think.
	But this guy, John Campbell, I fucking hate him.
	I mean, he furries out, but do your thing.
	For me, I've seen too much of him.
	The second I even fucking see his face, I am already internally in a blind rage.
	Well, let us know why we can agree.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You'll see.
	You will see.
	of biases sake, I will read to you from the Wikipedia page as to who this guy is, rather
	than just giving you my unfiltered rage. So, John Lorimer Campbell is an English YouTuber
	and retired nurse educator known for his videos about the COVID-19 pandemic. Initially, the
	videos received praise, but they later veered into misinformation.
	He has been criticized for suggesting COVID-19 deaths have been overcounted, repeating false claims about the use of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, and providing misleading commentary about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.
	He currently has over 3 million YouTube subscribers and his videos have been viewed at least 716 million times.
	Accordingly, we are going to take a little diversion to look at this guy's coverage of child deaths in the UK, especially as that's what Russell is using.
	So Russell also got the year wrong, because she said in the previous year.
	So she was talking about 2022, 2023.
	at 20, 22, 23.
	2020, yes, it's one that- - And he said 2020 just 'cause.
	He said 2020 to kind of highlight, basically to insinuate to his audience,
	oh, this is a vaccine thing.
	One thing I would like to point out about this guy, John Campbell, is that he holds a diploma in nursing from the University of London, a BSc in biology from the Open University, an MSc in health science from the University of Lancaster, Oh.
	and a PhD in nursing from the University of Bolton.
	So Dr. John Campbell is accurate, but doctor of medicine he is not.
	He received the PhD for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media,
	such as online videos.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	So I mean, he's got a degree in biology, that's true, and an MSc in health science.
	It's probably fair to say in some areas the man knows what he's talking about, but he's also not been through the incredibly rigorous process of becoming a medical doctor.
	It takes a minimum of 7 years to even reach the foundational level of knowledge required to become a Doctor in the UK, and from there you have to specialise or become a General Practitioner, which can take between 3 and 7 years, on top of the 7 years you've already done.
	Optimistically, in his education, he's racked up about eight years of experience there, but most of that is in biology, which is related, but also very much not medicine, hence them being two separate disciplines, or his PhD in nursing, which was actually much more about education than anything else.
	So, yeah.
	That's this guy.
	And yeah, while I think of it, the year thing, the 2022-23 thing, a frequent thing that this John Campbell guy says is, oh, you know, this is supposed to be the years for the numbers for this year, but they're using numbers from that year and that brings up the average and blah, blah, blah.
	All it is, is the period of a year that goes across, you know, 2022 slash 2022.
	So it's, you know, June to June 2022 to 2023.
	And he's like, oh, well, you're using numbers from both years.
	That means that you're doing the numbers aren't right.
	You're inflating things.
	Did you look any more into the clip that they played that the woman was saying?
	We're about to take a look.
	OK.
	We're about to take a look.
	All right.
	All right.
	That's where I'm like, Don't worry!
	We are on a little side quest here.
	So what Russell will usually do in these instances is take the content that someone's made and then provide his own commentary over the top of it, right?
	In this case, because it's behind a paywall, we will have to skip Russell's commentary, though he's already made it abundantly clear which direction he goes with it.
	And we're going to go straight to the source.
	So here is an initial clip from John Campbell's YouTube page.
	I haven't edited anything.
	This is just how it opens.
	You are most welcome.
	Now I'd like to play you a clip from yesterday's parliamentary debate on excess deaths.
	Now this is from Dr Caroline Johnson.
	She's the Member of Parliament for Sleaford and North Hakeham.
	Now the interesting thing here is that this is actually a Conservative politician.
	And the critique she's making, of course, is of her own government.
	Her Conservative Party is in power.
	Which makes it, to my mind, a more poignant contribution.
	Let's get to the contribution now.
	But as a consultant paediatrician, I'd like to focus on children.
	The National Child Mortality Database collates data regarding children's deaths from 0 to 18.
	Their latest bulletin from March 23 shows there were sadly 3,743 child deaths to the
	end of March 23, which is an increase of 8% on the previous year.
	So could the minister comment on what investigation she's doing into the cause of this increased
	mortality and what's being done to prevent further deaths?
	The purpose of CDOP is to investigate these deaths but the average investigation is taking 392 days with less than half completed in 12 months and a significant fall in the number of being completed in 12 months.
	Can I ask what she's doing to improve this process?
	One particularly distressing feature of child death data is that suicidal deliberate self-harm was the primary cause of death between children between 10 and 17 years.
	Looking at the data, it's getting much worse within children aged 10 to 14.
	I understand the government's aware of these figures and is investing in mental health for children and improving online safety, but we'd be grateful if the Minister could elaborate further on the steps they're taking to support children and prevent further tragedies.
	One of the reasons I get exasperated Sorry, I'm finishing this.
	One of the reasons I get exasperated with the COVID inquiry is there seems too much focus on who said what to whom.
	Did someone swear?
	Did the actors like each other?
	I'm not that interested.
	I want to know what lessons can be learned.
	Was lockdown useful?
	Is getting children out of school useful?
	Was the vaccine a suitable thing to give children or not, particularly if they'd had COVID before?
	These are the answers that we need.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Doing so well, doing so well.
	Unfortunately, being a consultant paediatrician and a Member of Parliament does not in fact safeguard you from being an idiot.
	This lady may be a doctor, but she's peddling anti-vax narratives here, insinuating that the child death rate has increased by 8% compared to last year because, oh, we've vaccinated all these children and it's killed a bunch of them.
	Which is exactly why John Campbell has picked this up, and it's exactly why Russell has picked this up.
	It fits the narrative perfectly.
	These figures were reported back in November of 2023 and it took a minute for this MP to pick them up, which has then taken forever for these two idiots to parrot out into the ether.
	If either of them genuinely gave a shit, they could have found this back in November.
	But of course, they had no clue and no one had spun the narrative yet.
	Now, a steep rise in children dying is particularly scary, which again, perfect anti-vax content.
	But why exactly has that occurred?
	Right.
	Evidence does actually point to one specific reason for the most part, and I will tell you now, it's not vaccines.
	The first thing to address is that use of percentages again.
	8% increase in deaths sounds fucking terrifying, and it is, but realistically the figure of child deaths went from 3,454 in 21-22 To 3743 in 2223.
	So there were circa 300 more child deaths this year compared to last year.
	Still awful, but nowhere near as scary as they're making it sound.
	For black children, the death rate was more than double that of white children, at 56.6 per 100,000 compared with 25 per 100,000.
	The infant death rate was highest for infants of black or black British ethnicity, 8.7 per 1,000 live births, approximately three times the rate of infants of white ethnicity.
	According to the report, 15% of children who died last year were known to social services at the time of their death, with 42% of the 496 deaths reviewed considered avoidable.
	The Director of the NCMD and Professor of Neonatal Medicine at the University of Bristol, Professor Karen Lloyd, said infant mortality was a standard by which countries
	judged the state of their health care and in most high-income Countries the figures were improving unlike England. She
	said there were many different factors Yeah, well, I don't know
	I don't know, to be honest.
	She said there were many different factors behind England's figures, but increasing deprivation since the pandemic was one of the main reasons.
	Professor Lloyd added, most infant deaths are due to prematurity, and we know people who live in social deprivation are at higher risks of premature births.
	There is also evidence that women from ethnic minorities do not always feel as welcome in the health service, and capacity and resources in healthcare services are also constrained.
	The report said, "Whilst the death rate in the least deprived neighborhoods decreased slightly
	from the previous year, the death rate for the most deprived areas continued to rise,
	demonstrating widening inequalities." So fewer children in rich areas are dying,
	more children in poor areas are dying. One particularly poignant statistic is that the
	death rates in the poorest areas were more than twice as high as in the richest areas.
	Um, and.
	And where oh where do all of those people of colour live, I wonder?
	The UK's top children's doctor, Dr. Camilla Kingdon, President of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health, had this to say, quote, This is a harrowing but avoidable statistic.
	Behind this awful data published today is a whole raft of deteriorating child health outcomes and the clear driver is rising child poverty in the UK.
	Poverty, health inequalities, and the associated loss of life is not inevitable.
	Poverty is a political choice and our government has had ample opportunity to tackle it.
	If our government wants to get serious about health, then it must also get serious about poverty and inequality.
	Figures such as these in a nation as rich as ours are unforgivable."
	Hard fuckin' agree.
	And here is where it becomes incredibly notable to me that the woman letting anti-vax conspiracy theories fall out of her mouth uncontrollably is a Conservative MP.
	If it's all the fault of the vaccines, then it couldn't possibly be the fault and result of the austerity measures that her party have put in place for the last 14 fucking years.
	And this specifically is where I start to get really fucking angry with people like John Campbell and Russell Brand, because in their insistence on the lie that these child death rates are being caused by the vaccine, not only are they actively causing harm by being anti-vax, but they are obfuscating and diminishing the reality that children are dying in this country because our government is choosing to let them die.
	Because they are poor or black or brown and we're unlikely to vote Tory so what the fuck does it matter anyway, right?
	And Russell and this fuckhead Campbell hide the truth for these unscrupulous cunts in the UK government for the sake of making money.
	This is nothing short of weaponising the deaths of children for profit while actively covering up the real reason that those children are dying.
	It's disgusting, it's abhorrent and it's fucking shameful.
	Yeah.
	I completely agree.
	And yeah, it's literally awful.
	The thing is, this should be one of those moments where EU, UK, everybody just points over across the pond and is like, we don't do that.
	We don't do what America is doing.
	Because yeah, the numbers for, I mean, maternal, I mean, the numbers for black and brown pregnant
	women are abysmal.
	The disparity is staggering.
	Maternity in general is getting more dangerous in this country.
	Yeah, it's a really great gauge of how the government is protecting and treating its citizens and how it's spending its fucking money.
	It's reprehensible.
	This is something that's been happening in America for quite some time.
	Yes, yeah.
	And has been on a pretty disgusting trajectory for quite some time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like I said, I don't know the specific numbers because I've been purely looking at the UK, but yeah, I know it's been a big fucking issue for a long time.
	Yeah, and we know why, and it's the reasons that you just listed.
	So especially like her conflating, you know, unaliving numbers with like children, It does also feel obfuscated, if this is the kind of information you can find, that even mental health resources are also a thing.
	What's the point of relitigating what lockdown already did, other than to further distract the conversation?
	That's something that happens here, too.
	It's like, oh, well, all of these mass shootings and these young men, there are mental health problems.
	Like, OK, but y'all don't support the mental health system either.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's like, well, pick a lane.
	Do one thing or the other.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, yeah, she was right in that the leading cause, you know, from 10 to 17, the ages 10 to 17 is, yeah, is unfortunately suicide.
	And it's on the rise.
	And it's a fucking problem.
	Yeah, the The majority of those, you know, nearly 4,000 child deaths are either that, they're either suicide between that age group, particularly the ages 14 to 17, that's where it is most prevalent.
	10 to 14 it is on the rise, she was correct about that as well.
	And then the lion's share of the rest of them were actually like perinatal situations, you know, when the child is Yeah, not even born yet or is very, very young.
	You know, that's the other huge amount of them.
	So.
	So relitigating lockdown measures is not the thing to focus on.
	Like, what are you doing?
	What are we doing?
	It's just even the statement in and of itself took two hard turns that should tell you, you know, the context clues within just her statement is like, okay, wait.
	You're obfuscating within your own statement.
	Yeah, no, it's true.
	And, you know, it's painfully obvious, even if you just look at the breakdown of the numbers, you know, there is no kind of thing, there is no kind of segment of it that would be like, oh, this is obviously vaccines doing this and that's causing this huge amount of deaths.
	No, that's very obviously not the case.
	The extrapolation is just, it's several points that are increasingly tenuous.
	Yes, yes.
	And yeah, I have many reasons to be angry with this doctor.
	All of that said, let's take a look at what that dickhead John Campbell has to say about it.
	But anyway, we have this 8% deaths, increased deaths in children.
	This is a lot of deaths in children.
	She rightly wants to know the causes, because if we know the causes we can prevent it.
	And the delay in reporting deaths, 392 days.
	You see, the whole point is we need to correct for things that are going wrong in lifetime, not over a year later.
	Something goes wrong today, we want to correct it tomorrow.
	Just think about things like the Thalidomide scandal in the past.
	You know, if we'd waited over a year, then there would have been another...
	Complete birth cohort of babies that would have been affected by that.
	We need this lifetime data.
	Otherwise, it becomes fairly not meaningless.
	It's useful, but it's very much delayed.
	We can't correct for things that could be could be going dramatically wrong now.
	Okay, so he's conflating two things in this clip, and it's painfully fucking obvious.
	The 392 days figure is the average time to investigate the deaths of these children, which I agree is insufficient, and perhaps Dr. Johnson, the lady who was talking, if her party actually Funded public institutions.
	It might not take so long.
	Just a suggestion.
	But Campbell here is trying to say that, oh, no, it's 392 days before the death of the child is reported, which is plainly fucking absurd.
	But he's trying to make out, oh, no, that's just that's just the norm.
	And we can't tell whether these vaccines are like, you know, causing the thalidomide like the thalidomide scandal, because the reporting just isn't quick enough.
	It's it's both stupid and insane.
	But this boring old white British guy makes it sound like a reasonable position with his tone to an untrained ear.
	And that's one of the many reasons I fucking hate the guy.
	What are we doing?
	I don't know.
	Anti-vaxxing.
	We're anti-vaxxing everywhere, baby.
	That's what we're doing.
	It's just a nesting doll of what the fuck.
	I don't... Yep.
	Yeah, all of his videos are like this and I'm so angry.
	He will come back on Stay Free and we'll probably tackle him properly at some point.
	I mean, but just like, look critically at your content and see
	supporting and obfuscating on behalf of conservatives, who's slowing down government processes?
	I know who is here.
	I mean, and you know what?
	Everybody's at fault.
	Everybody's at fault.
	But if you want government to move quickly, this isn't the... Okay.
	All right.
	I feel like this is... I mean...
	We're in a hole.
	I completely agree.
	Feels like applying logic is superfluous.
	We've got one final clip from John Campbell here where he puts his editorial slant on things.
	And she shares my exasperation with the COVID inquiry.
	Who says what to who?
	We're not interested in tittle-tattle, as she rightly said.
	Because we need to know what happened about lockdowns.
	What was the effect of them?
	Vaccines.
	Was it appropriate to give vaccines to children?
	You might not need to think too long about that one, especially after they'd had COVID themselves, especially when they've already got natural, active, acquired immunity as a result of our wonderful immune system that can recognize 9 billion different foreign proteins.
	So some pretty good questions there from Dr. Johnson.
	So that's why I wanted to play that clip.
	If 8% more children are dying around the world, to the extent we can extrapolate this, It's a pretty terrifying issue, to be quite honest, as you're a parent or a grandparent.
	You'll relate to that very strongly.
	More on this debate shortly, but I'm just going to get these out as I sort of think about them and have a look at them.
	So thank you for watching.
	Um yeah we can't in fact extrapolate that child deaths are up eight percent worldwide because they're not.
	In fact globally they're decreasing every single year which is what makes the UK such an obvious outlier in the statistics.
	But Campbell here insisting it's the vaccine causing it would then lead people to believe oh well you know Yeah, if they're giving the vaccine to kids everywhere, then it must be worldwide that this is happening.
	And no, it just isn't, because the cause isn't vaccines.
	It's a creeping genocide by enforced poverty.
	That is the cause.
	Yeah.
	And as you've picked up on very obviously, if a natural immunity to COVID-19 was sufficient, you know, which is fucking not.
	Living in the proof.
	Swimming in the proof over here.
	That's not how these viruses work, and we've known that from the jump.
	We've known that and can prove that.
	And if that natural immunity to COVID-19 was sufficient, the COVID mortality rates wouldn't have dropped.
	As it is, according to a study by the BMJ based on data across 2,558 counties in 48 U.S.
	states, counties with a high vaccine coverage had a more than 80% reduction in death rates compared with largely unvaccinated counties.
	Explain that one with your natural immunity, John Campbell, you prick.
	Uh, yeah.
	And measles is fucking back.
	What are we doing?
	Measles here is back in America.
	It's not long before we'll have to deal with typhus again, you know?
	Jesus fucking Christ, dude.
	Well, I mean, the MMR vaccine is like, typhus has nothing to do with the things that are standard, like standard vaccinations that kids get, you know what I mean?
	No, I know, I know.
	Like, you know, like, it's just, it's, goddamn.
	I don't like the thing that I that you have to learn about whenever you learn about history stuff is smallpox and it's it is a boogeyman that is a parent if you learn anything about human history and it's such a disservice.
	That people aren't more aware of like, there's all these like tropes about, you know, or you were, you know, middle ages 15, because everybody died at 35, like, averages and kind of like, tropes and lore of history have really obfuscated the reality of like, People having to make more kids because they die in horrendous ways that we have since repaired.
	And busting that dam back open is so fucking dangerous and just isn't taken seriously by people that have way too much fucking sway.
	Children dying is what brings the average down.
	That's why the average, you know, it's... Yeah.
	That's, yeah, 100%.
	It's all fucking playing with statistics, all of this.
	Anyway, there is more of Russell's show, specifically a 26-minute editorial.
	And I will play you the first clip here.
	There's been an unprecedented rise in the deaths of young people in the last few years.
	Also, mass censorship of outspoken critics of the pharmaceutical industry.
	I should know, I'm one of them.
	But is there any connection between these two things?
	Deaths of young people, mass censorship.
	Let's have a look.
	We can create change together by opposing these forces of tyranny and deception that would have us believe that there are just unexplained, unexpected deaths just sort of happening.
	At least that's how Channel 4 report on the phenomena.
	As you know, Channel 4 were one of the main media outlets working together on the attacks against me.
	Well, it seems they're less intrepid when they're covering the important subject Of the sudden rise of deaths in young people.
	We'll be showing a bit of that footage as well as further evidence that Moderna were surveilling, censoring, monitoring and controlling content I was making about Big Pharma.
	I'm not suggesting there's a connection between the legacy media and the Big Pharma, although their financial relationships might lead you to think that there definitely is.
	Let me know in the comments in the chat what you think about it.
	Let's have a look at how the legacy media want you to think, how they present facts in a peculiar, obfuscating, distracting way.
	brilliant about this is if you look at the comments under this video, no one is buying it at all. Now,
	of course, this being about the deaths of young people, it does center on actual human beings,
	and in some cases, they are young people that had underlying heart conditions, and it's possible,
	of course, that their deaths had nothing to do with events of the last couple of years. I'm
	not in a position to declare that there definitely was, and I'm certainly too sensitive to the family
	members left behind grieving. Unfortunately, there'll be very many of them to suggest that
	anything other than what they feel about the death of their loved ones is the truth.
	Oh boy.
	LINDSEY Hammer's back!
	Hammer's back!
	ALICE Hammer's back.
	LINDSEY My baby.
	Wow!
	So, Russell spends 26 minutes insinuating that, to start, it's the vaccine causing young adults to die instead of long COVID, despite literally just saying, oh, well, I mean, some of these people may have had underlying health conditions or heart conditions.
	I mean, what do I know?
	I'm not saying anything definitive.
	We then find that Lee Fang has released part two of his bullshit Moderna piece, and spoiler alert, it's idiotic, And Russell spends a good chunk of time whinging about how
	he's been targeted by the media without ever actually addressing the things that he very
	much did.
	Even saying Channel 4.
	Mm-hm.
	Dude.
	Like, okay, very clear what your motivation is.
	And again, yeah, using kids dying to accuse Channel 4 of misreporting allegations of violence.
	Yes, it's like, oh, well, they looked into me a lot, but they didn't look into this very well, did they?
	Because they didn't cover that it's the vaccines doing it!
	And I was like, wow.
	Are we?
	Yeah, but yeah, he's accusing like bias and negligence.
	But then also immediately saying he's not saying that.
	That happened, what, at least twice, maybe three times?
	It's like, well, I'm not saying this, but I am saying this exact very same thing.
	Yes, yeah, with the financial ties thing as well.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	I'm not saying this, but also based on what I'm going to show you and what I'm going to say to you, you're probably going to come away with that conclusion.
	But also, I'm not saying this.
	That is such manipulative bullshit.
	I'm not saying this, but I am saying it.
	Like, then why, why?
	Why are you saying it at all then?
	Yeah?
	If you weren't gonna stand by what you say, like that's the thing, it's like, oh okay, at least he's also a fucking pussy about it.
	If you're gonna say it, say it.
	Good night!
	Knigget!
	Good Knigget!
	I don't disagree.
	In the interest of finality, I'm going to play one last clip from this show and from this editorial.
	It's the end of the editorial here.
	There you have it then.
	Excess deaths are on the rise across the world, with a recent report suggesting that 8% more children died last year than in previous years.
	What's been going on?
	Channel 4, a legacy media company, when they report on it, never inquire as to the potential for recent medical interventions to have at least contributed, or at least, you know, if you were following science, you would follow it in that direction, wouldn't you?
	Seems they've got bigger fish to fry and other projects to pursue.
	Meanwhile, it's clear, plain, and evident that Moderna are surveilling, spying on, deamplifying, shutting down, and censoring dissenting voices.
	Why would that be?
	We all know why.
	Because the truth is antithetical to their ability to make profits.
	So the truth has to be re-categorized as misinformation, and misinformation has to be shut down.
	And across the world, there are censorship laws being passed by people that directly ask for my channel to be demonetized and shut down, incidentally.
	All in all, what you have is a legacy media, a pharmaceutical industry and sets of nefarious and peculiar agencies that have a vested interest in shutting down true information by calling it lies.
	Meanwhile, the mainstream media are not investigating what's causing so many excess deaths among young, healthy people and even children.
	It's long COVID and a creeping poverty-based genocide inflicted by a shamelessly evil government.
	Right, job done.
	I'm not sure what to do with the next 25 minutes and 55 seconds of my time, really, but there we are.
	Can I also add, the other thing that was being reported and explained by doctors as soon as we found out what COVID was and that it was happening, Is that the additional pressure that COVID would put on the healthcare industry and on the systems in general would have ripple effects.
	Any of this claims about, oh, they said that the vaccine would be 100% effective, which they didn't, or that COVID was going to blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	All the other lies and shit.
	The one that they completely ignore and just gets tossed out entirely And even people that are arguing in good faith somehow manage to fucking forget that there is a tinge on every single COVID conversation and healthcare conversation is that COVID puts pressure, because COVID running rampant was going to put pressure on the healthcare system in general, that it would have ripple effects of a lack of healthcare and a lack of accessibility for other
	Diseases and injuries that have nothing to do with COVID.
	And that's been getting explained and reported till they're blue in the face from the minute fucking one.
	It is so frustrating to me that, I mean, but, oh.
	Institutional problems, like the ripple effects of, like, how many things have to go wrong in this country when people are, like, warning, like, we will be paying for this, you know, like, Supreme Court, we'll be paying for this for the rest of our lives.
	This is a 30-year problem, not a today problem.
	And then five years from now, people are like, oh, I don't know what happened.
	Yes, you do.
	And you were explained.
	You just weren't fucking paying attention.
	You didn't want to fucking listen.
	Ooh!
	Hammer!
	Ooh, I really... I hit myself.
	I whacked my headphones and I was like, I should probably put this down.
	She's here!
	We're here!
	We're handling it!
	Yeah, there's a lot to be angry about in this show.
	And the income disparity was also a warning that was explained.
	Like, the increasing divide in access to resources is going to make all these problems.
	I do not want to watch your country become like mine.
	It's fucking heartbreaking.
	Oh, we've been there a while, don't worry.
	I promise you, there's hideousness in parts of this country that, like, y'all, I don't want you to have to be there and deal with it.
	It sucks in a way that's so, like, pervasive.
	There are a lot of things that we do have that you don't, that is for absolute sure.
	But in terms of income inequality and class warfare, we've been there since I don't know fucking when.
	And yeah, I feel ya.
	I feel ya.
	Well, I mean, even just from my own experience, and then also understanding what people have to, like, I just, I live in a cautionary tale.
	Yeah.
	And I think that there was, at one time, I think there was maybe a reluctance to call it that.
	And man, oh man, it's really frustrating that The woman's statement that, um, it's just sticking with me.
	Like, it's really, it's in my craw, as they say.
	It's very, um... It was like she was so close to being rational.
	Yeah!
	She was doing quite well there for a minute.
	And then, what?!
	And it's kids.
	These are babies.
	Just being heaped on the pyre of fucking... It's a harder conversation because of that.
	Capitalism.
	It fucking sucks, man.
	It really blows.
	When I kind of realized that the primary thrust of this show was going to be dealing with weaponizing the deaths of children, I was like, oh, fuck.
	I mean, I'm not shocked, but this is literal fucking Alex Jones tactics.
	You're not calling anything a false flag, but it's still like, here are some kids who died, how can I make money off that?
	And that's the territory we're looking at.
	This is bleak.
	This is fucking bleak.
	I just I hate to feel like I feel like I live in a Petri dish of how to fuck with everybody else and having a transatlantic kind of, you know, like connection and podcast and having, you know, we have listeners from other countries.
	It's not just this kind of in theory, you know, learning statistics.
	It's like boots on the ground having to actually Learn about it and hear about it.
	But I also feel like that... Okay, silver lining, here we go.
	Now I get to make a tenuous connection.
	Being able to have this kind of dialogue and comparison and understanding broadens, I think, especially as an American, because I've had to work very hard to broaden my horizons beyond my own country.
	And I think that having a dialogue that's opened up to more than just the American experience, especially because fucking Russell is not getting, like, Russell is, again, very, like, British person.
	But it's still targeting American audiences.
	Yeah, his content is still American, yeah.
	Right!
	Or trying to be!
	And so having this kind of, like, awareness and kind of comparative discussion, I think, Has brought, I don't know, brought into focus the responsibility that America has and does not own up to at all.
	At fucking all.
	Yeah, no, I very much agree.
	I very much agree.
	You know, and I'm not going to say, you know, As America goes, so does the world.
	But in a lot of cases, it does kind of come at least halfway close to that in various different ways.
	You know, and I, yeah, I think the populism discussion is where a lot of that comes in, you know, from 2015-16, you know, Trump and that kind of thing onwards, the influence that has had on the global stage has been horrifying.
	And I think I think the kind of the measure of American influence does kind of appear around foreign elections, which is why this is going to be a really interesting year.
	Yeah, it's a big one.
	I knew it was going to be a year of change.
	And then and then, you know, it was again when I was looking at the WEF and all of that stuff, I was like, oh, they're covering elections.
	Holy shit.
	There's a lot of elections happening this year.
	Most of the world.
	Well, half, half.
	That's really scary.
	Yeah.
	Well, right.
	But I mean, it's not just America, obviously, but there is this kind of, okay, well, we can look at the Americans that are excited about, okay, so also America is trying, or like conservative America is triangulating with Bolsonaro and Viktor Orban, and like, it's not just America.
	But we can look at the engines of this populist, xenophobic rhetoric that we can all agree.
	Well, not we all.
	We can agree.
	I'm not going to say all.
	We can agree.
	Wow, that's a fucking problem.
	Wow, we don't need engines fueling this fire.
	We don't need furnaces.
	We're not heaping coal into these furnaces of really hideous social tragedy.
	I don't know what else to call it.
	I would say if someone's made it this far in the show they probably agree with us on this point.
	Just saying.
	I'll tell you what, if you've made it to like two and a half hours or however long we're going and you still disagree with us, well done for making it through.
	Props to you.
	And everybody, I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	I know I'm being a massive bummer today.
	No, no, no.
	Well, here's the thing.
	This is how the show went.
	This was very much the experience of the show.
	I was like, oh, this is very lighthearted.
	This is very, you know, DeSantis and Trump and like Biden.
	A couple of interesting things to talk about here, but mostly kind of fluffy bullshit.
	Okay.
	Kind of fun.
	And then this happened.
	Oh, fuck.
	It's making me look forward to my CAA corruption book.
	What the fuck?
	ALICE Yeah!
	Thanks, Russell.
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