Kangmin Lee analyzes South Korea's demographic crisis, arguing that mandatory military service and left-wing hiring mandates drive men to reject feminism and the 4B movement. He critiques universal suffrage as chaotic, advocating instead for a republic restricted to heritage citizens or net-positive taxpayers while warning against Muslim immigration as a subversive threat to Confucian stability. Lee links rising birth rates to a rejection of modern isolation, urging ethnic endogamy and traditional community structures to preserve national identity against mass migration policies that foster enclaves rather than unity. [Automatically generated summary]
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Let's talk right wing politics in South Korea.
South Korea is best Korea.
I always love, like, when you got here, I was like, you're from Korea?
And you're like, yeah.
I was like, north or south?
You know how many times I've gotten that over the years?
And it was funny at first.
I'm like, okay, dude, we get it.
Like, oh, yeah.
You know that the Korean Peninsula is divided between north and south.
You know what?
Let's start there for a second.
What would God's will, optimal will, The best case scenario be for North Korea?
For them to reclaim their Christian heritage.
Yes.
If you know anything about Korea, so Korea, Christianity was first introduced to Korea in the early 1700s, approximately there.
And it was actually Catholicism that picked up a lot of steam in Korea.
So it was gaining a lot of momentum.
A lot of people were converting to Catholicism.
And then so there are tens of thousands of Koreans who were martyred for the faith.
And they were called the Korean martyrs.
And a lot of them are canonized saints in the Catholic Church.
And then in the early 1900s, There was a great Pyongyang revival where a revival broke out.
And it was a Protestant revival.
God bless, right?
Because we're Protestant.
But it was a Protestant revival of tens of thousands of North Koreans.
And that trickled out to hundreds of thousands of Koreans giving their lives to Christ.
And then so actually, Christianity boomed in North Korea first.
And so people don't know this.
But in the early 1900s, and especially during Japanese colonialism, the colonial era, if you were from the North or if you were a Christian, people knew that you were from the North.
And there was tons of people who ventured from the north to the south during the time of Japanese colonialism to evangelize.
So, a lot of Koreans actually, the first Christians and a lot of the Christians were North Korean.
And so, actually, my great grandfather was a big part of that revival, actually.
And so, I'm a fourth generation Christian thanks to him.
And so, part of my mom's side of the family actually is from North Korea.
And so, I'm actually technically kind of half North Korean in that case.
And then, my grandfather fled during the Korean War.
When the United States, South Korea, and most of the allied forces took over most of the Korean Peninsula, and then he fled to the South during that time.
And then that's how I'm here.
But yeah, so.
Real quick with North Korea, because we're constantly told that it's the most totalitarian regime of all time, more communistic than even the CCP, and that the people there aren't allowed to be Christian or have any kind of faith in Christ.
What do you know about the current state of North Korea?
So, the thing about North Korea is that they've been opening up a lot.
Right.
And still to this point, yes, it is pretty totalitarian by American standards and modern Western sensibilities.
But they've opened up a lot.
And this is what people need to understand.
They're not just some starving hellhole anymore.
Because in the same way that China had to open up their economy in the late 1900s, because they were like, okay, well, frick, our people are starving.
Right.
And we don't have a means of wealth creation.
Because say what you will about the free market and economic freedom, but it does.
Create wealth, right?
When you leave people and the best of people to create businesses and innovate and create products and services, your country grows.
And that's just an inevitable reality.
And then so I think North Korea saw the same thing.
They saw, okay, well, China opened up and they were starting to make money and have their people not starve anymore.
And then so North Korea is in a similar trajectory, of course, nowhere near South Korea.
But if you look at some of the pictures and the footage coming out of Pyongyang, there's a lot of people who say, oh, that's just propaganda.
That's just propaganda.
No, North Korea has nukes.
They have nukes.
You know, there's not a lot of countries in this world that have nukes.
That, like, we just went to war with Iran or bombed Iran and started attacking them because of their nuclear arsenal program.
Allegedly.
Right.
But it's like North Korea has nukes.
So they're not just some, oh, yeah, we just dismiss them.
They're stupid.
No, like, they're a serious threat.
And if you understand anything, it's that we're still the same Han people.
We're still Koreans.
So, North Koreans, South Koreans, we still have the same lineage for thousands of generations, or thousands of years, for many, many generations.
And so they have still the same capabilities.
That South Koreans do.
So, if you saw South Korea go from one of the poorest countries in the world after the Korean War to now one of the richest and most influential, North Korea has that same potential.
And then to dismiss North Korea, to look down on North Korea, I think it's naivete.
I think it's actually immature in order just to look at North Korea and look at it as a communist hellhole because they are loosening up a lot.
And they're actually giving a lot more freedoms back to North Korean people.
Of course, it's still insular.
Like they don't have access to the internet, that global internet, but they have.
A nationwide internet that they use.
A lot of North Koreans have smartphones.
And so, this is not me being pro North Korea and be like, oh, I love North Korea by any means.
But we have to be realistic about how North Korea is industrializing.
And if America and South Korea don't take that seriously, then, well, they're going to be a really big threat in the near future.
Yeah.
What is it like in terms of faith?
Are people allowed to be Christians?
Yeah.
So, they've actually loosened them, at least from what I can see, they've loosened up a lot of the restrictions on religious freedom.
So, before you couldn't be Christian at all.
Because you know, with the communists, you saw with the Soviet Union and China, in the beginning stages of communism, they completely rip out Christianity.
Because Christianity poses a threat to the state in these communist regimes.
Ironic, because it's supposed to be a stateless, moneyless utopia.
But then, of course, the state controls everything and tries to stamp out our religious liberties as Christians.
So it started like that for sure.
Like you'd be jailed, you wouldn't be allowed to practice your faith.
Now they're opening up, at least from what I can see.
Religious freedoms for Christians to practice their faith openly, as long as you don't go against explicitly the Kim regime and the North Korean government.
But is there a particular vein of Christianity?
I know for a while in China, it was like you could be Christian when they started opening up, but it had to be a state sanctioned.
Yeah, it's essentially self church.
Yeah, it's like similar to that.
Again, I'm not a North Korean politics expert, but from what I can see, because politics on the Korean Peninsula really deeply interests me now.
As I become more right wing and I become more aware of my heritage and I, Just intrinsically start to want to learn more about not only the history of that area and the nation from which I come from, but also the current politics.
And then, so yeah, I'm not sure exactly, but I do believe it is some sort of state sanctioned form of Christianity where you can say basic Christian tenets as long as it's not revolutionary in nature and talking about any sort of revolutionary talk that says, like, oh yeah, like it's in America that's very.
Common, right?
Oh, we worship God, not the state.
We worship God, not the government, things like that.
As long as that kind of rhetoric is not being promulgated, I do think they are allowing, broadly speaking, it's not that they don't persecute Christians.
They still do to a certain extent, but it's not as harsh as it used to be.
Right.
Okay.
So shifting now to South Korea, that's your heritage, your people.
North Korea, too, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You're right.
You're right.
We're all the same.
We're all one people.
We're just divided by ideology, which is, you know, really sad.
Yeah, it is sad.
Yeah.
Okay, so South Korea, though, that's where you were born, and that's where some of your family lives.
Uh, you are an American citizen and still citizenship in South Korea, I assume.
Uh, no, so I'm not a dual citizen.
Oh, you're not?
Yeah, so I'm I gave up my Korean citizenship and I became an American citizen back in college.
Okay, God bless, I appreciate that.
Um, okay, so that said, talk to me about South Korea.
Let's start with this.
Um, for the younger generation, the divide, political divide between young men and young women, it's like the widest gap, yeah, of like right wing men, left wing women.
Um, that's kind of A pretty common lay of the land for every country.
Women tend to be more liberal than the men.
But you guys have one of the widest gaps of any nation currently, right now, in the world.
What do you think that is?
There's a lot of reasons.
And, you know, people, it does frustrate me when people on the internet who've never been to Korea, who've never interacted with Koreans, have all of these, they pontificate and they.
Kind of in their own sophistry.
They're like, oh yeah, Korea is this because of this or that because of that.
A lot of it's very multi layered.
A lot of it has to do with the rapid industrialization.
A lot of it has to do with the consumerism and materialism that is wrecking havoc throughout Korea.
But the thing that people need to understand is that the women in Korea are actually conservative by Western norms.
So if you actually look at the data, Korean women are actually more conservative than women in Europe and women in The United States.
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It's just that the men are super conservative, like super right wing.
And so, yeah, like if you go to the average Korean woman that you meet on the streets in Korea, they're going to be feminine.
They're going to be gentle.
They're going to be elegant.
They're going to have etiquette.
And they're going to be pleasant, which is exceedingly rare in America today.
But yeah, and that's the kind of woman that you're going to meet.
They're not going to be super extremely left wing, super pro LGBTQ, and they might be pretty like, Pro abortion because they don't really know, understand what it is, and things like that.
But yeah, by if the average Korean woman came to America, they would be considered right wing because by nature, being someone who's not ideologically super left wing makes you a right winger today for some reason.
Right.
Say people like Tim Poole, God bless him.
He's a right winger.
How is he a right winger?
He's a liberal.
He's a centrist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, but people think he's right.
Yes.
Yes.
Love Tim Poole.
He's part Korean, by the way.
I don't know if you knew that.
No, really.
Yeah.
He's part Korean.
You know what?
That kind of checks out.
You just, you've been on his show.
Yeah.
Right?
I got to go on it twice last year.
I like him.
Yeah, he's a good guy.
He won't, you know, go quite as far as I'm willing to go.
But I do think that he's a good guy.
I'd like to see him say Christ is the Lord.
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And then, so that's women where they're not that left wing, but just in any society, women are just going to be more left wing than the men are.
But then, the reason why they're so hard right is because, in the same way that Americans in America have been screwed over by the system and by wokeness, DEI, all these things, Korean men, young Korean men have been screwed over the same way.
Explain that.
Yeah, we were talking about this offline.
It was fascinating because, in some ways, it's worse.
Yeah.
For Korean men than it's been for white American men.
Yeah.
So, you know, if people don't know this, I think everyone should know this, but Korean men are all required to go to military training and to serve in the military.
They've reduced it a lot, actually.
So it used to be three years.
In my father's generation, they went for three years and served in the military.
Now it's 18 months, still close to two years.
But yeah, so basically for two years, they have to go serve in the military.
They have to go serve in the military.
It's mandatory military service.
Of course, the women don't have to go.
And yeah, I agree.
The woman shouldn't have to go because I believe the woman shouldn't have to serve in the military, shouldn't have to fight on the front lines if war were to break out.
But so, what the left wing administrations and the left wing governments and assemblymen have done and tried to continuously implement in Korea, they were forcing corporations and companies to hire women by virtue of them being women.
It was like DEI on steroids.
And then so, they were giving jobs away, not to the most capable.
And not to those who truly deserved it, but just because they were a woman.
It's like similar to, I forgot which airline it was, but they had that ad about hiring more black pilots.
And so it's just hiring pilots just because they're black.
But it's that on steroids where it's just saying to broad swaths of corporations, hey, you have to hire women.
And so all these young men who not only have to give up two years of their lives to serve in the military that women don't have to, but also when they come out of the military, well, all their jobs are being taken by women.
So, How are young men going to feel?
Oh, they're going to hate it.
They're going to hate it.
And they say, What is this?
And not only this, women don't want to get married.
Women don't want to have children.
So then they see this and they're like, Well, I hate feminism.
I absolutely despise feminism.
Because not only is it causing the decline in our birth rates, it's literally giving preferential treatment to women and discriminating men against men and giving all these job opportunities for men because women are increasingly hypergamous in our societies today, right?
And so they won't marry or date a man who makes less money than them or doesn't have a job.
But then a lot of women are taking the jobs that should be for men.
And then so all the men are leaving, are really disenfranchised, like extremely, extremely disenfranchised in Korea.
So that's a big part why they're like that.
And a lot of them are seeing just how, well, South Korea has a lot of great things, has a lot of incredible things.
It's clean, it's orderly, all these things that we enjoy and we want in the West as well.
You can leave your belongings anywhere.
Like, you can leave your laptop in the middle of a cafe in downtown Seoul.
No one's going to take it.
Really?
It's great.
It's a high trust society.
So, not very diverse.
Yes, not very diverse.
I mean, it is becoming a little more diverse, which is concerning.
But not like America.
Oh, not like America by any means.
And so there's a lot of.
Yes, it's safe.
It's very safe.
It's one of the safest first world countries.
And so, in those regards, Korea is so incredibly amazing and I love it.
But yeah, but it really is the worst parts of capitalism.
Explain it.
Where if you look at the birth rate in Korea, 50 years ago, it was over five.
Wow.
50 years ago, it was over five.
Now it's 0.5.
Well, it actually increased this past year, so it's over 0.8, which is great.
It's positive.
Yeah, I want to ask you about that because it's very difficult for nations to reverse the birth rate.
And the fact that they've done that is significant.
But go ahead and make your point first.
Yeah, so it used to be five.
Right.
Like, seriously, in two generations, it went from having a positive, a very, very positive birth rate of five to now 0.68, increased a little bit to 0.8.
And I do think a large part in that is because a lot of Koreans are kind of waking up.
Kind of waking up to the lies of feminism and the lies of modernity about how you just have to be a workhorse for these corporations and slave away to these companies that don't care about you.
But yeah, all in all, I do think a large part of it, and the conference I was speaking at, Build Up Korea, back in September, where Charlie also spoke.
So I was with Charlie Kirk in Korea a few days before he was assassinated.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And, you know, at that conference, I really prayed about like, what do I want to.
Talk about what I want.
What do I want to say to the Korean people?
And if there's something that I could say and never say it again in Korea, what would it be?
And then I touched on materialism how materialism is the scourge undergirding so many of Korea's problems and this obsession with attainment, obsession with status and wealth, and all of these things that aren't bad in and of itself, right?
But that becomes the highest good in the eyes of Koreans.
Going to the best college, getting a nice, comfy desk job, and do we call them chebol?
It's huge corporations like Samsung, LG, Hyundai, these humongous corporations in Korea, where everyone knows Samsung.
Samsung controls and is responsible for 25% of South Korea's GDP.
25%.
So there are a lot of Koreans who want to work for these huge companies and they are obsessed with money, convenience, comfort, living in a nice apartment.
And this is really a lot of what Koreans live for mindlessly.
Causes a lot of the feminism in Korea.
A lot of the feminism in Korea is actually not man hating.
And there is a small subset of women called, they call themselves the 4B.
And it stands for like 4B, B meaning like no.
So like 4B, we're not going to date men, we're not going to have sex with men, we're not going to marry men, and we're not going to have children.
And then this is, it's this radical left wing movement in Korea, feminist movement that says that we hate men.
It's like a coven, a bunch of witches.
Yes, essentially, but they're so niche.
It's so small, and a lot of internet activists are like, Look at the 4B movement.
This is why women aren't having children with men.
Like, they hate men, they're rejecting men.
Actually, that's not the truth.
Like, generous, generous estimates say that about maybe a few tens of thousands, maybe 20,000, 30,000, maybe women identify as part of the 4B movement.
There are 30 million, near 30 million women in Korea, right?
So, the vast majority of women don't buy into that.
But then, what is responsible for the low birth rates, and why aren't women having children?
Why aren't women getting married?
If you go to Korea, you're going to see couples everywhere.
Yeah.
They're dating.
There's a lot of couples, but they're not getting married and they're not having children.
Why?
Because they see it as an impediment to their career.
For women, they studied so hard throughout school.
They worked so hard in college and then they worked so hard throughout their whole lives to get a good job.
But then, oh, I have to give that up now to have children?
Why?
And that's how so many Koreans were raised because of the trauma of poverty post Korean War.
And so my grandparents' generation and then my parents' generation were so indoctrinated and so, so obsessed with the idea of I don't want my children to grow up like I did.
So you need to study hard and you need to work hard and amass a lot of wealth.
And it might be a good desire at first, but then that obsession translates to.
Right?
Materialism being the end goal.
And then, so because of that, feminism is actually in large part in Korea motivated by materialism.
And people don't understand that, where even marriage, the percentage of children born out of wedlock in America, I think it's near 50%.
I think it's like 44% or something like that.
Do you know what the percentage of children born out of wedlock in Korea is?
What?
2%.
So Koreans still have a traditional understanding of marriage.
Right.
But that's why they're scared to get married because they understand okay, then the woman has to stay home with the children and raise the children.
Oh, but women, why would women like women don't want to give up?
Yeah, exactly.
It takes me forever to get here.
Exactly.
And that's the careerism, that's the consumerism, that's the materialism that is telling women that you need to attain everything and do everything a man does while also, right, giving birth and taking care of children.
And it's an unrealistic expectation that is unfairly, you know, unfairly put onto women in Korea and women in the first world in general to say that you have to be like men, but also be women.
And I think it's an unrealistic and unfair expectation to place on women.
And I think we need to get back to a place where we say, no, actually, women, you don't need to be like men.
And your purpose to be a caretaker, to be a nurturer, to be a birth giver, you know, you birth new life.
That is a glorious calling and that is an important calling.
And so we don't diminish that in any way.
And just because you don't have a nice, comfy job and a nice, prestigious job in Seoul at a big company, it doesn't mean that you are any less accomplished and that, you know, Your failure in life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's well said.
It's ironic.
You know, AI scares me.
I think that there's, you know, countless, like virtually limitless future possible scenarios in which it seems like 99.9% of them are dystopian and maybe a few possibilities where it might actually be positive.
But one of the positive effects that I predict with the AI revolution is it's going to replace a lot of people in their work.
And I think that that will have some severe negative consequences.
But one positive one is I do think that artificial intelligence will displace people disproportionately.
I think it will displace more women than men.
When you think of what are going to be the first things to go, it's going to be admin jobs, it's going to be the hackling hens at the HR department, it's going to be a lot of the busy work that is not super productive, the managerial class.
AI is not going to necessarily be innovating and leading the way.
Creating new things, but in terms of managing and organizing a lot of the work that is, for the most part, feminine coded, that has been filled positions by women.
I think those will be some of the first jobs to go.
And so, in that sense, AI might be a nail in the coffin, at least on the capitalistic economic side of the equation when it comes to feminism.
100%.
And I think a lot of the.
Here's the thing.
Yes, the birth rates are a problem.
The collapsing birth rates in the first world is a big problem, but I think a lot of it's overblown.
And what I mean by that is that they freak out and say, okay, we don't have above replacement birth rate, so we have to import immigrants and migrants from the third world to work those jobs that people aren't willing to work.
And we have to keep that positive replacement and bring in as many immigrants to make up for the children that aren't being born.
And there's a lot of this narrative happening, but I think actually you have to take into account human ingenuity.
You have to take into account human innovation.
And so, yeah, maybe we actually don't need to import a bunch of migrants from the third world who don't share our language, our history, our culture, our customs, and don't worship the same God, right?
And are completely different.
They have come from a completely different ancestry.
Like maybe we don't need to import millions of them in order to sustain our economy.
Robots Solve Immigration00:06:02
Why?
Because of technology, right?
Because AI can supplement to a certain degree the jobs that would have gone to these low skilled, Laborers.
It's, I mean, it certainly will with time and not that much time.
I'm not talking about 50 years.
I'm talking about anywhere from two to 10 years.
You know, we'll see more and more physical AI.
That's the, you know, in America, that's the age old question is who's going to pick the cotton?
Right.
So, you know, we can't free the slaves.
And it's like, oh, we, you know, we can't deport, you know, the immigrants.
And it's like, you know, so it's the answer to the slaves is immigrants.
And I think the answer to the immigrants might be robots.
You know, we might actually finally be done with that question.
Right.
Of technology might actually be the answer to where all of a sudden there's no excuse.
However, here's what I predict.
All right, so I'll get a little wacky for a second.
The problem I predict will be democracy.
So, democracy coupled with universal suffrage, I think, is one of the most wicked, sinister, and just downright retarded forms of government known to man.
Yeah, right.
So, monarchy, fantastic, period, but certainly in comparison to a raw, Universal suffrage democracy.
I do not believe that there is a worse form of government than every single person with a heartbeat gets to vote.
Like, there should be IQ tests to vote.
It should, the 19th Amendment should be repealed.
That's a no brainer, right?
So it's like, you should have to be a man.
You should have to have an IQ above room temperature.
You should be gainfully employed and a net positive taxpayer, unless a special.
Provisions and exceptions like a veteran or something like that.
You should have no criminal record.
You should be able to go into a voting booth where the only language in the booth is the language that's spoken in that country.
I mean, there are so many common sense procedures without even getting to religion.
For me, as a Christian nationalist, I think that you should have to be a Christian to vote.
Before you even get there, in America, I would say you have to be third generation American on both sides of the family or Fifth generation American, at least on one side of the family.
You need to be a heritage American.
In other words, you have to have a stake in the past.
It's like, well, I was born here.
Well, tough.
You know, like America is full.
Well, I'm, you know, I'm an immigrant.
Correct.
Aren't we all immigrants?
No.
Settlers and immigrants are not the same.
America has been settled for a very long time.
We have immigrants today.
We had settlers back then.
Settlers and immigrants are not the same.
One group came to build the country, the other group came to take.
From the country.
And that's very different.
So, heritage Americans stake in the country's past and its heritage.
Third generation on both sides or fifth generation on one.
You also should have a stake in the country's future.
And I would argue you should be married.
If you're not married, you don't get a vote.
Not all married couples can have children, but marriage presumes children, posterity, future.
No crime, criminal record, net positive taxpaying, male.
So, it's representative government.
It's not a raw democracy.
It is a republic of sorts.
Each father standing in for his children, husband standing in for his wife.
The head of household is representative of the family.
Well, do women get a voice?
Yeah.
They have a powerful voice through the head of household, the male leader of the family.
Still have a voice, but don't have a vote.
There's one vote that is representing many voices.
So, all those kinds of things are, I think, perfectly common sense.
But apart from that, here's my prediction as it goes back to AI.
I think AI will fix, I think it might just ruin the world.
But let's just hypothetically say the positive outcomes actually transpire.
Then, assuming that, and that's a huge assumption, AI would fix some of the.
Some of the issues on the economic side of the equation, right?
Like answering the question once and for all, the final solution, if you will, economically for who will pick the cotton, right?
We don't need the slaves.
We don't need the immigrants.
We've got the robots.
This is what won't happen though with AI.
Because then it's like, okay, we don't have to transport the third world anymore.
Yes, you will.
You still will.
And here's why votes.
You may be able to tie up a nice little bow, the economic problems with AI.
Especially physical AI.
But you will not be able to solve the insatiable appetite of career politicians who still want the immigrants.
They'll no longer have the rhetoric of, we need them to do jobs that Americans aren't willing to do, and blah, blah, blah.
But they'll still come up with some kind of reason for why we need to let all these people into our country, guised underneath the thin veil of compassion and these kinds of things, so that they can win elections.
I don't think you ever fix immigration.
Until you get rid of universal suffrage.
So, you have to get rid of raw democracy, universal suffrage, and then you also do have to fix the financial side of the equation.
AI solves for one of those, but some kind of political revolution is required to solve for the other.
Now, if you can solve for both, no longer having universal suffrage with a raw democracy, and you have robots to pick the cotton, then all of a sudden you would see on both sides of the aisle, in our context here in America, both Democrats and Republicans, for once, they would agree and they'd be like, Millions must go back.
They would finally agree on that because the only two incentives have been satiated.
And so there's no longer a motive.
But all that being said, I'm with you on the technology side of the equation.
I think a lot of these things will be answered.
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But it brings up the question for me because I'm a novice.
I don't study South Korean politics.
You guys have a democracy, right?
Yeah.
Sorry for that.
That's probably our influence.
I apologize.
Is that universal suffrage?
Anybody, everybody can vote?
Yeah.
They actually started to.
Allow foreigners to vote in their elections.
Classic.
It's very, very concerning because of the amount of Chinese nationals, Southeast Asian nationals, Arabs, and Indians that are coming into Korea increasingly now.
And so, you know, Korea touts, I see a lot of, well, there's a lot of South Korean hate on the internet.
You're probably not part of that part of the internet, but there's a lot of irrational and just very visceral hatred towards Korea.
And I do believe a lot of it is motivated by envy.
And jealousy because they see this small little country, the size of maybe two New Jerseys, pretty small, but they've gone from being one of the poorest countries in Asia to now one of the richest and most influential.
Where after Hollywood, South Korean entertainment is the most watched.
And after America and the UK, South Korean music is the most listened to worldwide.
Wow.
Yeah.
So the influence that South Korea has, not to even mention economically, right, with its semiconductors and its smartphones and its technologies, its cars.
Yeah, it's truly enormous.
And it's actually quite impressive how influential South Korea has gotten in three generations.
In three generations, they went from being one of the poorest countries in the world to one of the richest and most influential.
Wow.
You know, a lot of people look at that and they obsess over it.
But then in their obsession, they become jealous and they find ways to rationalize their hatred towards Korea and to make sense of why their countries are still objective cesspools.
And then Korea is so incredibly amazing now.
That being said, A lot of hatred towards Korea, but these foreigners then come into Korea because they're obsessed with Korean culture.
They're obsessed with Korean food and Korean dramas and Korean music.
They love the boy bands.
Oh, BTS, I want to see BTS, right?
And so they come into Korea and they come into Korean droves.
And so it's not only the migrants who are willing to work the low skill, hard labor jobs that a lot of Koreans aren't willing to work, which is a little different in Korea and America, where Americans are willing to work the blue collar jobs.
A lot of Koreans aren't willing to in the next generation, which is something that needs to be fixed.
But it's also people who are obsessed with Korean culture, right?
And Korean people, and they come in, and a lot of them now are totally replacing whole villages and communities in Korea.
Wow.
And it's a problem.
So they're starting to be able to vote.
Of course, women can vote, men can vote.
But this idea of Korea being a stable democracy is actually a lie.
It's never a stable democracy.
There's never a normal presidency since the inception of South Korea.
Never.
The first South Korean president was Yi Seung Man, Seung Min Ri, and he ruled as an authoritarian for around 12 years from 1948 to 1960.
And then he was usurped through a military coup by Park Chung E.
And Park Chung E, he's credited as the person who industrialized South Korea.
And he was an incredible man.
He really was.
I respect him a lot.
Actually, I like him a lot.
Maybe not for his torture and his crackdown on political dissonance, but the way that he led South Korea.
And his genius and his innovation and his charisma, the way that he led the country was incredible.
But then he ruled for 20 years and he really industrialized Korea and brought Korea to the modern age.
And then he was assassinated by his intelligence chief, right?
And there's another person who came in and he was ousted.
And then there's finally a democratically elected president for the first time in 1988 ish.
And then ever since then, they were ousted, they were impeached, they were jailed for corruption.
And there was never.
Never like a stable president that just stayed for the whole term and nothing happened to them.
Even right now, the current administration under Ijemmyong is trying to go after the previous conservative president, Yoon Song Yoon, for insurrection.
And so they just indicted him and they gave him a life sentence in jail for staging a coup and insurrection against the South Korean government when he was the government.
And it's just such stupidity.
But there was never a stable form of government, really.
Truly, since the foundation of South Korea.
And so, when you look at that, even the National Assembly that they have, which is their Congress, they didn't have power until the late 1980s.
So, it's actually very recent that assemblymen actually come together and make laws, and those laws be something that affects Korean daily life.
Yeah.
So, Korea never had a stable democracy.
But I think this idea and the spread of democracy, and this is where, again, I don't hate America, but where American entanglement oversees.
And their foreign excursions in foreign countries, in different countries, actually destabilizes.
And which is why I understand Korea hasn't been destabilized to the point of the Middle East, for example, right?
But when I see that there's a lot of people who hate America in the Middle East because.
We've never done anything in the Middle East.
Nothing, nothing.
But, you know, there's actually, broadly speaking, South Korea is pro America.
But there is still a good amount of.
I guess there's a conversation slowly happening, I think, in Korea about American entanglement in the East and how, yes, if America didn't get involved, then all of Korea probably would have been communist because of Chinese influence, because China was right there.
But at the same time, yeah.
And so there's a lot.
I mean, yes, I'm thankful for America.
I'm thankful for America to a certain extent, but they spread democracy, right?
And this idea of mass democracy is not fundamentally American.
It's a modern American invention.
That's right.
But the founding fathers and the founding Americans didn't want mass democracy.
They hated it.
They hated it.
They had nothing positive to say about a raw democracy.
Yes.
And there was nothing democratic, truly, about America's founding.
All the people who made the laws, who represented the people, yes, they were democratically elected by a very small subset of the American population that had not only ties to the past, but also a vested interest in the future.
And yeah, like the president was not democratically elected, he was elected by a slate of electors from each state.
And it wasn't the people who voted for the electors, the electors.
And it's like all these things that, yes, there was the House of Representatives where, yes, people voted for their particular representatives to represent them in Congress, in the federal government.
But for the most part, most people did not vote in America at the founding.
And this is what people need to realize that the foundations of America was not intrinsically pro mass democracy.
Actually, the reason why they set it up as a constitutional republic.
Was because they saw the faults of mass democracy.
They read the Greek philosophers.
They saw the faults of mass democracy and the failure of mass democracy in the past.
But then, because, and you come to the modern era, and then there is this hubris among people that's like, oh, yes, I know everything.
So I should be able to, every single person should be able to excise and exercise political power in the government.
And then it's like, well, no, if you don't even know our three branches of government, which a lot of people in America don't, you have no business voting.
But people just can vote and it's so easy.
And so when I look at that influence in South Korea, I do think that it is kind of sad because it, you know, Korea has not had a stable democracy.
It's a lie.
And yes, Korea is great, it's clean, it's orderly, but its political system has always been, you know, back and forth, back and forth, very unstable for a very, very long time, ever since its founding after the Korean War, even post, you know, pre Korean War too.
So I do want to kind of.
Debunk that lie where I'm not saying that people shouldn't have a voice.
I'm not saying that the political will of the people should not be represented or manifest in their government.
But what I am saying is that if we give everyone, every single person who is living in your country political power to vote for the future of your country, things are going to get really ugly and chaotic very quickly because now it's subject, the future of your politics and your government, your leaders are subject now to the whims of the people.
And that's a very, very unsustainable way to govern your country.
And it's a very, very unsustainable way to carry your heritage.
And your legacy into the future.
And so in Korea, it's a constant state of flux politically.
And I do not like it.
And I do think there needs to be more structure and stability.
And I do believe that also comes with kind of like what you talk about get away from universal suffrage and also not being pro mass democracy.
Right.
Where I'm not advocating for a dictator, I'm not advocating for a totalitarian ruler and a tyrant.
But, you know, and I think that's what people always lose.
They say, if it's not mass democracy, it's totalitarian tyranny.
It's like, no, no, no.
There is a bit of a middle where you can have a strong ruler who is there for a while, who loves his people and who does good by the people without him being a tyrant.
And we've had good kings, we've had good rulers, we've had good presidents who've been in office for a very long time in America.
And that's what I'm saying that we can have right now.
Yep, I agree.
So, what are the political issues that are pertinent, like the most relevant political conversations that are going on amongst Koreans, especially young?
So, thanks to Trump and Charlie Kirk, people like Charlie Kirk, conversations surrounding national identity and immigration, nationhood is starting to happen.
Not to the level which I wish, but it is starting to happen.
But the main political divide right now, at least it seems like in Korea, really truly becomes pro America, anti CCP, and then anti America, pro CCP.
And I find that to be interesting because there are so many domestic problems that are crushing Koreans right now.
But I feel like a lot of the fundamental divide, right versus left in Korea, comes down to foreign policy, which is interesting.
Where I think foreign policy is very important, don't get me wrong.
But the most pressing issue is the low birth rate.
Right.
Like Koreans are literally disappearing.
Yeah.
And not only that, it's the separation and the nomadic culture of Korea now, where they leave their homelands, hometowns, they leave the town of their.
Parents and their grandparents and their great grandparents, and they all want to just congregate into little cubicles and blocks in the city.
So rootless, right?
They just want to become rootless cosmopolitans within their own country.
Deracing.
Right.
Yes.
And it's horrifying.
It's a dystopia.
It's, oh, this is actually the point I was trying to make.
Yeah.
Like it's the worst forms of capitalism because the pursuit of capital and profit is the only thing that seems to motivate so many Koreans.
I'm not saying all, for sure.
There's incredible, great Koreans that I love and I cherish who love their country, who love God.
Who are working as Korean patriots to save their country.
But a huge amount of Koreans are just trying to make it and make more money.
For what purpose?
I don't know.
Better apartment, better job, better car.
It's very, very, very shallow.
And so this is what's happening.
And then on top of that, they are being replaced.
Not at the rate of America, but probably, you know, and this is when Americans saw too, oh, it's not that bad.
Let's just let them come in.
No problem.
But then within 40 years, America went from like 90% white to now almost.
50% white.
Right.
Right.
And so Korea is happening the same way where Korea used to be 99%.
Yeah, it was like 1910, 1920, was 90% white.
Yeah.
So it's been about 100 years, but even as recent as before the Hart Seller Act around 1958 to 1965 or so, I believe it was still about 80%.
Yeah, it was a large percent.
And that's how it starts, though.
It's slowly, it's a slow introduction into not only importing mass amounts of immigrants, but also softening people to the idea hey, we're all people.
Right.
We're all a blank slate.
Right.
We're all individuals.
So it doesn't matter where they come from.
As long as they come in here and they can assimilate, not understanding that a lot of people aren't compatible with Western and also Eastern civilization.
Some people won't assimilate and many people can't assimilate.
And then so when you go to areas like Itaewon, so Itaewon is an area in Seoul that is known as the foreigner district, there's Arabic everywhere.
There's people in hijabs everywhere.
And Koreans are very, very apprehensive to Islam.
They don't like Islam.
Right.
And so.
Why are we letting this in?
Oh, you know, religious freedom, tolerance, pluralism.
No.
Like, there is an extent to our tolerance for religious freedom where I believe that Christ is king and I believe that Korea belongs to the Lord.
But I am sympathetic towards the freely religious practices of Buddhists and Confucian people.
Not many exist anymore, but there are a good amount of Buddhists, but not Confucian practicers.
But you're saying that, like, that's idolatrous and it's wrong, but you would have more compassion for that than Islam because one is foreign.
Yes.
Whereas one is.
Was a part of your heritage.
Yes, it is.
Even though that particular part of your heritage is wrong.
Right.
But it's, and then Buddhism and Confucianism is, they're not subversive.
Yes.
Right.
And they're not like ideologies of conquest.
Islam is.
And that's the problem, right?
Where Buddhism is about.
So is Christianity.
Yes, it is, but in a good way because it is the pursuit.
Yes, it's true and it's the pursuit of the eternal good.
That's right.
By connecting a broken people back to their God.
Right.
So there's that caveat.
But yeah, like Buddhism and Confucianism, they're not subversive.
They're not ideologies of conquest.
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They purely stay to themselves.
And it's part of Korea's rich heritage for thousands of years.
Totally cool.
Islam?
No.
No, heck no.
Right.
Judaism?
No.
Right.
Hinduism?
No.
Because these are subversive ideologies.
And then so there's also that conversation that needs to be had.
Islam is overt, Judaism is subvert.
Yeah.
And so.
But both, I would say, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are all, they all seek to ultimately dominate.
Christianity, I think, does it through virtue, Islam through force, and Judaism through subversion.
I agree.
I totally agree.
And so I think when you think about it, then okay, the low birth rates and immigration into Korea, two biggest problems.
Right.
And yes, it might not be the immigration, might not be to the extent of the West for sure, but it eventually gets there.
It'll get there.
It'll get there as people loosen their acceptance for mass immigration.
And then before they know it, they're like, wait, I don't recognize my country.
And then I feel like a foreigner in my own country.
Tell me real quick what accounts for the tick up in the birth rate?
It's small, but it is up.
Yeah.
So it was a recent finding that came out this past week, actually, from this past year in 2025, where the birth rate went up a little bit.
And I do think that it is because a lot of Koreans are waking up to how, well, Korea also has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, in the first world.
And so, higher than Japan?
Yeah, I think so.
Really?
Yeah.
Because Japan's high.
Japan's high, but I think Korea is higher per capita.
And a lot of Koreans are depressed and they're isolated and they are lonely.
And when you think about the architecture, I talked about this when I was in Korea too.
Apartments are one of the most anti human forms of architecture known to man.
It is impossible to form natural communities, vibrant, sustainable communities with apartments.
Korea has one of the largest percentages of their population.
Living in apartments.
And whenever Koreans move out of their home, well, most Koreans grow up in apartments.
And then when they grow up and they buy property, it's apartments.
I had a house that my dad grew up in that was a very quaint house.
It was a lovely house.
It wasn't like the nicest house, but it was a traditional Korean house.
And it was so nice.
I have very fond memories of it growing up.
And then a couple of years ago, they toppled it, they completely toppled it to build a huge apartment building on top of it.
And now everyone might say, oh, that's great.
There's more housing units, but what do you sacrifice?
And there's a lot that you sacrifice where people were able to, Koreans were able to form natural communities and be close naturally with their neighbors.
Now they don't even know who they'd live next to because apartments do not allow for natural community building.
And so because of that, Koreans are isolated, Koreans are lonely.
And the only form of community that they have is people in their workplace, right?
But then that can ebb and flow, right?
You can get fired, you can get.
You can move on.
And so there is no sustainable form of community that is rooting Koreans.
And so I think this is a really big part in why Koreans need to go back to the church.
The next generation needs Christ because at least then in your church community, you have a solid community that will be there for you, that you can serve, and they will serve you and you can do life together.
But most Koreans don't have that.
And so they're lonely, they're depressed.
And so in that state of mind, I think a lot of them are saying, okay, wait, but what's the end goal of my life?
Like, am I just a Kong in the machine?
So, I think a big part of it is like, okay, well, I want to get married and have children because what else is there to live for, really?
And so, I think that is a slight part of it.
But I would have to do a little more digging into exactly why.
But I do think it is just indicative of a broader trend in the first world to reject feminism, reject modernity, the lies of modernity, and say, actually, no, I want to go back to my roots a bit more.
I think family is important and friends come and go.
My job comes and go.
But What doesn't come and go is my family.
That's right.
And my family will always be there for me.
And I'll always try to be there for my family.
And that's what's constant.
So I do think there's a slight return to that.
And there is actually where, and for most of South Korea's history, people always wanted to congregate and move into the cities.
Now that Seoul is so expensive to live in, it's just really, really expensive to live in Seoul.
Now everyone's moving out of Seoul.
Not everyone, but there's a slow movement of people out of Seoul and into less congested areas and then more open areas where they're still developed.
But it's still, there's more breathing room, right?
Because places like Seoul, it's so, so stuffy with the amount of people and the culture.
And so I think that's also a part of that as well.
What would you like to see here at the end of the episode?
What would you like to see for Korea?
What's your hope?
What's your prayer?
And then for you at a personal level, what do you think is your part to play?
Do you have a part?
Are you just here in America now?
Do you think you would ever go back or from America?
Do you hope to speak back and have an influence or a voice or are you just kind of.
What do you see for Kongmen in your role?
And what is it that, what's your ambition and your goal for Korea?
Yeah, so I've been praying a lot about this because we have so many commentators, we have so many influencers, everyone's saying kind of the same thing in the right wing space in America.
And yes, I'm unique in that I'm Korean, and there aren't many Koreans in this space in America.
But I don't know if there's much that I can say that hasn't been said already in American politics.
But I have been praying about what kind of influence can I have in Korea, and if God is calling me to Korea.
And so I've been praying about it, and I really do think that God is calling me there, at least temporarily, maybe momentarily.
But He has been growing my heart for Korea because.
As much as I try to reject it, as much as I try to ignore it, that's the home of my ancestors.
That is where I come from for thousands of years.
I was in Korea last month and I visited the grave of the founder of my Lee clan, right?
And I was, you know, I was like praying for him because he wasn't Christian, right?
He was Confucian, but, you know, praying for him and I was talking to him a bit.
And, you know, I was just thinking, like, wow, like, this is where I come from.
And there is an inherent attachment to this land, to the people.
And there is something inherent about feeling like I belong among Koreans.
Now, of course, I grew up in America.
So they would call me Kyo Poo, Korean diaspora.
And so they still do view me because of my broken Korean.
It's not perfect.
I can speak Korean, but it's not perfect.
And they still view me as, like, hey, you're Korean, but you're an outsider.
You grew up in America.
So, you're a bit of a foreigner.
But for all intents and purposes, I go to Korea.
And the first thing that Koreans say to me is, you know, they speak in Korean.
Right.
If you were to go to Korea, they would start speaking, oh, hello, you know, and start speaking you do English because you're not Korean.
Right.
And so, in that regard, I understand like that's where I come from.
And when I think about the legacy I want to leave behind for my children, who do I want to marry?
Where do I want to raise my kids?
I'm thinking, well, I think it's in Korea.
I think so.
I don't know yet for sure.
And it might be hypocritical for me to say that, but it's because I.
Yes, I have my American citizenship, but I didn't really know what my citizenship entailed when I got it 10 years ago.
But now that I understand what heritage means and how important tradition is, how important leaving behind an inheritance for your children and my children's children is, I'm thinking, okay, well, where's the Lord calling me?
Is He calling me to assimilate fully into American culture and to leave behind my Korean heritage?
Because you have to.
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I believe that.
Yes, one or the other.
Yes, yes.
And so.
Yeah, you either don't have citizenship, as you currently don't in South Korea.
And you feel the Lord calling you to be here, in which case it's not just assimilating in terms of the culture and those kinds of things, but there is a biological, physical component.
Yes.
I'll just speak plainly.
It would probably mean marrying an American white woman, having half white children, so that your grandchildren would be 75%, and by the third, fourth generation, your descendants would be truly American.
It's either that, but that's a full rejection of your heritage.
And that's actually what you see there.
Or it's the opposite.
Yeah.
And you plant the flag in.
South Korea, and you can still be a friend of America and have a fondness for our country.
And you know what I mean?
But it's kind of you, you really do have to choose.
Yeah.
So that's what I'm really praying through right now because, yeah.
And it's actually funny that you say that because the number one demographic that intermarries the most is Asian women, Asian women in America, and they predominantly get married to white men.
But there is that rejection of their heritage that they have.
And so, It's the same with everybody brings up Ruth in the Bible or Rahab.
But take Ruth, for example.
It's like she was proud of her Moabite heritage and she kept that.
The rest of her, no.
She said, Your God will be my God.
All right.
This is what she's saying to her mother in law, Naomi, as she's going back with her to Israel.
Your God will be my God and your people will be my people.
And to adopt the one is to reject the other.
By the time it gets to David, right, who's the second king after Saul in Israel and arguably the best king, there's a couple that are, you know, Josiah and others, but David, probably the best king in Israel's history and a man after God's own heart.
By the time It comes to David, who's in the direct lineage of Ruth.
You're looking at four generations in.
So Ruth marries Boaz, right?
So she's a Moabitess.
She marries Boaz, who is an Israelite, and they beget Obed.
Obed begets Jesse.
Jesse begets David.
And by the time you have David as a king in Israel, he is an Israelite for all intents and purposes.
I'm doing the math off the top of my head, but I think it would be like 87.5% Israelite, you know, and only 12.5% Moab, or even less.
And she didn't bring with her her traditions.
She certainly didn't bring her.
Her religion, she didn't smuggle into Israel when she married Boaz, you know, set up a little shrine with her Moabite gods or anything like she rejected her fathers, rejected her people, rejected her gods, rejected her traditions, and truly assimilated in.
I would argue that, just for the record, even with all that, as honorable as that was, Ruth was that did still not make her an Israelite, but by the time it gets to her posterity, right, her great grandson David, then he is an Israelite because she marries.
Right, a Hebrew who marries a Hebrew, you know, and they have a son who marries a Hebrew and a son that marries a Hebrew, and then David.
And so that's what assimilation looks like.
It's not just customs, it's not just culture, it's not just religion.
Religion is certainly up there.
It's language, it's loves, it's liturgy, it's laws, but it's also land and lineage.
Land and lineage.
A nation, nationhood can never be anything, or I'm sorry, a true nationhood is always more than land and lineage, people and place, blood and soil, dare I say.
It's always more than land and lineage, but it's never less.
Never less, yeah.
It's never less.
And so true assimilation in biblical terms, you know, people always point that and say, well, this person, like immigration is a thing.
This person assimilated that person.
Yeah, but how did they assimilate?
Marriage.
Yeah.
They always assimilated through marriage.
Yes, and historically too.
Children and then grandchildren and the grand, like, but this idea of like, hey, you know what?
Not just I, Ruth, the Moabitist woman, like, no, actually, this whole sector of Moab is going to come to Israel and only keep to ourselves and keep our language and keep our gods.
And we're going to set up little Moab inside of Israel.
We're going to, like, what the heck?
Yeah.
You know, Israel would be like, oh, okay.
And we're also going to kill you.
Yeah.
Blessed be the name of the Lord.
No, we don't do that.
But America does.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And you guys, you know, in South Korea are starting to do that with Islam.
That's insane.
That's suicide.
Yeah.
That's not assimilation.
It's not assimilation.
And assimilation historically has always happened through marriage.
Right.
Right.
And so it's the adoption of people into your people and becoming your people.
Right.
Right.
And so the problem with mass immigration in America has been that people form their own ethnic enclaves.
Yes.
And the natural impulse for all people is to marry their own.
And then so, yes, there are interracial marriages that happen, but typically people, for the most part, keep to their own.
Right.
And so that's how you form ethnic enclaves.
And people always say, oh, but there's always different types of people in America.
Sure.
Any country you go to, Even within homogeneous nations, you're going to have different kinds of people with different dialects and different local customs.
But a person in Busan, a Korean in Busan, and a Korean in Seoul, they're still Korean.
Where, if you travel all the way to Busan from Seoul, yes, you're going to have a different dialect, but you can still communicate and you can still understand hey, you're my person, you're my people.
And we, yeah, have our.
You're still distant relatives.
Yes.
Distant, but still relatives.
And so, in that regard, I've been really thinking a lot about that.
Where, well, I want to marry a Korean woman and I want my children to be Korean.
And I think that is not an evil or terrible desire to have.
It's honorable.
Right.
And I want my children to look like me, I want my children to look like my wife.
Wait, you want your children to look like you?
I've been told that that's sinful.
Yeah, it's really.
I've been told that that's racist.
Yeah, it's.
How dare you?
It's really, really annoying how so many people make liberal dogma into gospel issues, right?
And they take post, like 2000, maybe 2000s, really.
Like Galatians chapter three, neither Greek, you know, Jew nor Greek.
Right.
Like, this is gospel.
It's like, correct.
Yes.
Neither Jew nor Greek.
All one in Christ Jesus.
Yes, black people, Asians, Latinos, like, yes, all of them are welcome through faith in Christ to be a part of his church.
That verse is not saying that we have to marry all of them.
Can we walk and chew gum at the same time?
There are different categories.
So theological, heavenly, higher, spiritual, one, breaking down the walls of hostility.
Okay.
Family, lineage.
Ancestry.
Like, here's the deal everybody's so excited about the book of Revelation and that we would all be before the Lamb, the throne that the Lamb of God is seated upon, and that it would be every tribe and tongue and nation.
You don't have distinctions in heaven if you erode all of them here on earth.
The only way you get diversity in heaven is maintaining distinction here in the temporal realm.
And if everybody marries everybody, then you lose that.
Is it a sin, therefore?
Intermarriage, no, yeah.
Um, but but the conversation is at scale, yeah, in the macro, and that's why, in the micro, in individual cases, there is freedom in the Lord to marry, it's not a sin.
Traditionally, the Christian church and church history has never condemned interracial marriage as a sin.
Um, but what we're dealing with in the West, and maybe not as much in Korea, but certainly in America, is we're not just dealing with isolated individual cases where someone has a freedom of conscience to marry someone who is a different ethnicity.
What we're dealing with is in the macro, in terms of our elites, sit down and watch television.
How many commercials will you find where it's a white man and a white woman?
You'll find two dudes, two chicks, two blacks, two Latinos, maybe a black and a white, Latino and a white, but you'll never find a white man and a white woman.
Very rarely.
Coincidentally, that's the only biological arrangement that produces white babies.
Coincidence?
I think not.
At a certain level, you have to sit back and call a spade a spade and say, oh, wait, I see what's going on here.
You just hate white people.
And so, yeah, I'm going to talk about it.
I'm going to talk about it.
It's actually funny if you look at the stats that white men and white women actually, contrary to mass propaganda and things like that, only 2% of them marry outside of their race.
And then, so even despite all of that.
But then think of the representation, whether it be academia, politically, or whether it be through Hollywood and entertainment.
So it's not about representation, right?
It's about subversion.
It's about.
It's about subversion.
Exactly.
They're pushing a certain narrative.
It's propaganda.
Because if it was really just.
Capitalistic, you know, like meeting the market, you know, where they're at and, you know, and trying to make a buck.
Like, if it was really about representation and market satisfaction and those kinds of things, you would, like, there would be approximately 59% of the commercials and television shows and characters and movies and all that kind of stuff would be a white family with a white husband and a white wife.
But it's not about that.
They're actually pushing propaganda out of hate.
Now, that doesn't mean that at the local micro level, that some couple in my church that's in an interracial marriage actually hate their heritage or hate white people.
That doesn't mean that at all.
But it might mean, not by necessity, it doesn't guarantee it, but it might mean that part of the reason they went that particular direction was because they were influenced at a macro level.
And so, yeah, that's something that should be talked about.
So, my point is, like what I said earlier, if you assimilate, I think true assimilation by necessity includes marriage.
It would mean you marrying, if you're going to assimilate in America, looking at the heritage of America, looking at the current majority of America, it would mean you marrying a Christian white woman.
And if it's not, but I really feel like my heritage, my home is something I want to preserve, then it means marrying a Korean woman.
It actually, marriage is a part of the conversation.
Yeah, it is.
And I think it's not a non sensible and irrational thing to ask that foreigners who come into your country, they would assimilate.
And a means by assimilating would be through marriage.
But for me, as a Korean immigrant, my natural impulse is that I do want to marry a Korean.
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Right.
So, and that's just me being honest.
Yeah.
So, when I think about that, then it's like, even now, like, I love my Korean family.
I love my Korean diaspora brothers and sisters in America.
And so, in that regard, like, I just still, like, it's inevitable.
I have an attachment to my people.
And people are like, oh, yeah, but America is your people.
Yeah, sure.
But because there are a good amount of Koreans in America, like, I just naturally gravitate towards them and I have my whole life.
And I don't think that's inherently sinister or evil or wrong.
But then you have to have a conversation, then, like, okay, then.
Is assimilation happening?
And I'd argue no, even among Koreans.
And I'm the first to be honest about that.
And then so for Americans, then, like, do you want that in your country?
And then there are Americans who say, like, with the propositional nation, oh, yeah, just as long as you agree to the propositions.
But I don't think that would really fly in any other country.
And then people say, oh, America's different because it was multiracial at the start.
Okay, fine.
But it was multiracial and it should remain that demographic specifically.
WASPs, Right?
White Anglo Saxon Protestants and a minority, West Africans.
Right?
That's it.
It should be that.
And people say, oh, you're so focused on ethnicity.
There's no American ethnicity.
No, there was an ethnogenesis of America, of these people.
Teddy Roosevelt talked about this.
Exactly.
By 1920 or so, you had an American ethnicity.
You had, for lack of a better term, there was such a thing as an American breed.
And he argued that it was because, yes, you had different ethnicities.
European ethnicities, the white, I should speak to the white American.
There was a breed.
You had, you know, Germanics and, you know, Anglos and, you know, some Celts and all of them came, but they synthesized over the course of about 200 years or so.
But what it was, was there, it was like America was kind of like taking different metals that are distinct but closely related, putting them into a furnace, applying heat, right?
There was work to be done.
There were challenges.
There were difficulties that had to be faced.
And by providence, these distinct groups, but cousins distantly related from Europe, melded into one new people through adversity, through difficulty.
We no longer have that now.
People are not coming here in order to meet the challenges of some adversity and overcome.
And be forged and unified as they walk through that.
Instead, people are coming here for a handout because the adversity has already been conquered.
It's already been accomplished.
And instead of five, six, or 10 different distinct peoples, but somewhat closely related, different European sects, well, now it's like Haitian and Somalian.
And so it'd be like being a blacksmith.
And instead of making your sword out of like five or six different metals and putting it in a furnace for a long time, Time and heat, adversity, providence.
Now it's like, well, we're going to take some iron, but also some mud and some hay and also some dung and some, and I'll let you guess which country that is.
And we're going to put that into a furnace, but with no fire, no heat.
And we'll also only put it in there for five minutes and take it out.
And what have we made?
Nothing.
Garbage.
That's what you've made.
And so assimilation is real, but it takes time.
It takes different materials, the peoples, That are distinct, but already from the get go, somewhat closely related.
It takes providence, some kind of adversity that has to be overcome over the course of a century or two.
And those are no longer the conditions of America.
But at the time, Teddy Roosevelt was right.
He said that the conditions, the adversity, the providence, the time, and the closely related materials, different Europeans forged one new ethnicity.
And I do believe that early 1900s, you could look.
To white Americans and say, you are an ethnicity.
You are American.
And you could tell by the way that we spoke, right?
If we went and visited Europe, you know, like hard R, you know, like hard R. You say, you know, words like crown, you know, or whatever it might be, you know, whereas like the English would like it was a silent R.
They would like skip the R.
Yeah.
Like, am I, you know, I'd, you know, instead of right, you know, and then, you know, the American kind of almost arrogant posture, you know, leaning against a building as though he's holding it up, more of a loud, commanding voice, the eye contact, a dominance, the firm handshake.
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Like there was a uniqueness of the American man.
He was his own breed and he stood distinct from even those that he ultimately descended from.
If he was to go back and visit England or go back and visit, you know, Germany or whatever it is.
So, I would say that America really did develop in ethnicity, truly, in the true sense of the term.
And then it was immediately lost.
Yeah.
And I think it's hard because America is such a young country.
Yeah.
So, I get it.
I get why there's a lot of people who are sympathetic towards the idea that America has no ethnicity and America is not a people.
It's just an idea, it's just a place.
But I think that you cannot detach the American people from America.
And, you know, people always talk about this that Libya, Has the same constitution as America, but clearly they're not American.
How's that working out?
Right.
And so it's not just the values, but it's the people.
And from my perspective, too, people always say, like, oh, you're such a sellout.
Oh, you're just trying to pander to the white man.
And it's not necessarily true.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know what that even means at this point because they say that about everyone who isn't super hard left.
But when I think about Korea and I go back to Korea, well, I want to see Koreans.
But when I go back and I see Indians, I see vast swaths of Africans and even whites.
God bless you.
But I don't want to see a large population of white people in Korea.
And it's because Korea is for Koreans.
And so when I think about that perspective, I understand.
I understand the Western plight of Americans and British and French and the Germans all being replaced by foreigners.
And so, for me, who loves the West, I love the West as a rich, deep Christian history, right?
And it is Christianity that brought so much of the West to what it is, but it is also the people, right?
That, yes, I want to preserve that, right?
I don't want to go around.
And I don't want to go to certain parts of America and feel like I'm in a foreign country.
I want to feel like it's in America.
And I think that's a good thing, actually, to preserve for your people and for your posterity.
Yep.
So, all that being said, the future for me, I'm not sure exactly what lies, but I do know that I have a big heart for Korea.
And I also do have a heart for the Korean and, by extension, East Asian diaspora, because I think a lot of them are so lost and a lot of them are being so brainwashed about.
With left wing ideology and lies about how America is this melting pot and you can make America whatever you want it to be.
And that's just simply not true.
And if you're going to be someone who assimilates into the West, then you should be someone who respects the custom, loves the history, and is primarily loyal to this country.
And if you're not, then yes, you have no business being here.
And I would say that about any Eastern country, say that about any Western country.
I want every country to remain its own distinct country.
Unironically, I like diversity, but I do believe that.
Korea's for Koreans, America's for Americans, period.
There's nothing hateful about that.
And actually, that actually leads to the flourishing of society.