NXR Podcast - THE SPECIAL - “The Black Problem?” — The Conversation No One Will Have
Aired: 2026-04-22
Duration: 01:01:32


=== Two Cultures in One Land (01:33) ===

[00:00:00]  Through mass deportations going back to the Heart Cellar Act, achieve 75 to 85% white majority.
[00:00:07]  And then, with that remaining majority, you're going to have some Hispanics that are, I would consider heritage Hispanics.
[00:00:14]  They fought with us at the Alamo.
[00:00:18]  They love our country.
[00:00:19]  They've forsaken their heritage.
[00:00:22]  This now is their heritage.
[00:00:23]  They're Christians.
[00:00:24]  They love America.
[00:00:26]  So, some Hispanics would fit the bill, some less, but some Asians would fit the bill.
[00:00:31]  And then certainly you would have heritage blacks.
[00:00:35]  Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webbin.
[00:00:39]  Joel Webbin.
[00:00:39]  I'm going to talk about Joel Webbin.
[00:01:05]  All right.
[00:01:05]  If you watched our first episode, then you know what we're about to talk about.
[00:01:08]  I'm going to give it to you, Calvin, to lead us off.
[00:01:11]  Well, we discussed the issue of the Mohammedans, of the Jews, but I want to know what America is going to do about the blacks?
[00:01:18]  The black problem.
[00:01:20]  The age old question.
[00:01:21]  Right.
[00:01:21]  Right.
[00:01:22]  Because I came to this country, I thought, you know, there's a united American people, but quite quickly it became clear there's not.
[00:01:28]  Yes.
[00:01:29]  There's an issue here of two cultures living in one land.

=== Acknowledging the Average American (06:36) ===

[00:01:33]  And it seems to me that most Americans don't dislike African Americans.
[00:01:37]  I think most Americans.
[00:01:38]  This came to me a while ago that most Americans see African Americans the way that Brits see Americans.
[00:01:43]  Like, not the same social etiquette, you know, louder, brasher, just inherently annoying, but not their fault.
[00:01:53]  It's their culture, right?
[00:01:55]  Most Brits would look down their noses at the average American.
[00:01:57]  You can tell the average American when they're walking through London just by their gait, never mind when they open their mouth.
[00:02:02]  And it's not a hatred of Americans, it's just they're not conforming to our social etiquette, whether it's wearing caps inside or, you know, Speaking with an outside voice inside, whatever, using cutlery the wrong way.
[00:02:14]  And I think African Americans are like that to your average American in that it's not their fault.
[00:02:18]  They just have a social etiquette that's different to yours, a culture that's different to yours, speaking with an outside voice.
[00:02:25]  And it's inherently in that way.
[00:02:36]  And it's inherently in that way.
[00:02:44]  Of course, it's culture.
[00:02:45]  But when did that start?
[00:02:46]  Because I look at American films from back in the day, and I don't know how true this is because I see it from the outside.
[00:02:52]  But the African Americans were well dressed, well spoken, Christian.
[00:02:57]  It seemed like there was a bit of segregation, but maybe that's why it was a protected culture.
[00:03:03]  I don't know.
[00:03:04]  Maybe there was a hierarchy.
[00:03:05]  In 1950, the rate of family abandonment and divorce among black families was the equivalent of today's white families.
[00:03:15]  Which is to say, I mean, it was higher then.
[00:03:18]  White families had much higher rates then.
[00:03:20]  But still, what it was demonstrating is that there was a significant amount of moral adherence compared to what it is today.
[00:03:28]  I think now it's 64% of black households don't have a father.
[00:03:33]  No, I think it's like 75%.
[00:03:34]  It might be higher.
[00:03:35]  Yes, it might be higher than that.
[00:03:36]  So there's an unbelievable number of abandoning fathers.
[00:03:43]  And so we do have a problem in America.
[00:03:46]  Nobody's willing to talk about it because, again, especially the Christians, especially whites.
[00:03:50]  And unfortunately, our guy that could have been really having a great headway, Vodi Bakum, on this discussion, the Lord took him home.
[00:03:57]  And so there's not many people out there.
[00:03:59]  I mean, yeah, we have Thomas Sowell, you have Clarence Thomas, you have some of these great black men in society, but there's really not many black men that I know of.
[00:04:09]  And I count myself pretty informed on this particular topic that are willing to have this conversation theologically, biblically, carefully, morally.
[00:04:18]  And so it's a certain need.
[00:04:21]  Well, we know if a family breaks down before a kid reaches 18, that kid is twice as likely to end up in prison, on drugs, or in crime of some degree.
[00:04:29]  We know those statistics, regardless of race.
[00:04:31]  So, why is it more prevalent amongst black people?
[00:04:36]  Biology has to come into the conversation.
[00:04:39]  I think that's part of the problem.
[00:04:41]  I'm happy to be the bad guy, and you guys can push back and disagree.
[00:04:44]  But I think the problem with conservatives for quite a while now is that I'm based, I'm a conservative.
[00:04:53]  I've read the FBI statistics that are.
[00:04:56]  Even the FBI statistics are skewed.
[00:04:59]  You know, like, I mean, look at all the pictures white, white, white, white.
[00:05:02]  It's like Wesley Snipes, white.
[00:05:04]  So even the FBI statistics are actually far worse if they were honest.
[00:05:10]  And so because it's so apparent, the conservative will acknowledge the disparity in terms of crime, in terms of all these different things.
[00:05:18]  But they always speak to culture.
[00:05:21]  And I feel like there's a negligence of culture doesn't appear out of the ether, culture doesn't hang in midair.
[00:05:29]  People make culture.
[00:05:31]  Culture comes from someone, not just somewhere, but someone.
[00:05:35]  And I acknowledge, and I'd love if we can get back to this.
[00:05:40]  And I think there actually are some solutions, but I acknowledge that blacks, I believe, were you know, you look at America's history, they were progressing, they were developing, they were maturing and coming along in incredibly positive ways.
[00:05:55]  But I think part of that, I'll quote Nick Fuentes on this I think he's right.
[00:06:01]  I don't, you know, he's not right about everything, but I like him, and I think he's right about more than people would.
[00:06:06]  Be willing to give him credit for.
[00:06:07]  He said that one of the reasons why blacks were improving is because there was a humility.
[00:06:14]  Rather than entitlement, there was a humility.
[00:06:17]  Blacks had this general sense of we're the minority.
[00:06:25]  The country was not built on the back of slavery.
[00:06:27]  The country was built by Europeans.
[00:06:30]  We are, in many ways, a second class citizen.
[00:06:36]  And we are going to work our butts off to prove that.
[00:06:41]  That we're every bit as good as any.
[00:06:44]  So there was like a black pride, but not the black pride that we have today of like some rapper.
[00:06:49]  I'm proud that I knocked up 17 different women and proud that I shot up this house.
[00:06:55]  No, it was like, I'm not going to give in to the stereotype.
[00:07:00]  It was like a black pride of like, our family is going to stay together.
[00:07:05]  And like, there's all these stories of like black, the black grandma who is like, their kid.
[00:07:15]  Acting up and acting up.
[00:07:16]  Yeah, and like boom.
[00:07:18]  And she comes down like a hammer on them, like, you're not going to embarrass me in front of these white folk.
[00:07:23]  Or, you know, hurt our reputation or hurt our people's reputation.
[00:07:25]  We've worked really hard.
[00:07:26]  Right.
[00:07:27]  Yeah.
[00:07:28]  So they were, my point is, they were coming along.
[00:07:31]  There was still a distinction between whites and blacks.
[00:07:33]  There always was.
[00:07:34]  Anybody who says otherwise is just being dishonest.
[00:07:36]  There was.
[00:07:37]  But in some sense, the gap was shortening.
[00:07:43]  And whites were progressing, but blacks were progressing also, not degressing.
[00:07:48]  And, And the gap was arguably shrinking, but then, you know, it's like.
[00:07:56]  But then the Jews.
[00:07:57]  But then the Jews, that's right.
[00:07:58]  No, with the Civil Rights Act and all these kinds of things, pushed entitlement, victimhood, mentality, Marxism.
[00:08:04]  So, my point is, I think there always would have been some difference.
[00:08:08]  And I think we have to acknowledge that, right?

=== Biological Factors and Poverty (04:26) ===

[00:08:10]  Because I think some of the difference is biological.
[00:08:14]  I think that that is.
[00:08:14]  When you have a diminished prefrontal cortex, there's going to be a biological difference.
[00:08:18]  So, you're half black, you brought it up.
[00:08:21]  Talk about that for a second.
[00:08:23]  I mean, I don't necessarily believe it's a race issue.
[00:08:26]  I think it's a breeding issue.
[00:08:28]  And when several generations of breeding within a particular demographic, which isn't of the highest IQ, you're going to have a general population with a low IQ.
[00:08:36]  Look at Somalia.
[00:08:37]  I don't think they are cursed by God to be low IQ.
[00:08:40]  I think they've just bred with each other for so long.
[00:08:42]  Inbreeding through, if you're not aware of that for the listener, look it up.
[00:08:47]  Say with Pakistani.
[00:08:48]  Somalia, inbreeding through.
[00:08:48]  The Pakistani community in Britain are the most inbred and also the most.
[00:08:53]  Retarded, mentally retarded people in the country.
[00:08:55]  And they continue to marry their cousins and continue to inbreed.
[00:08:59]  Every school teacher in Britain will tell you that the disabled kids tend to be Pakistani because of the inbreeding.
[00:09:04]  Well, I heard that, like, yeah, 64% of somewhere around there, some percent in the 60th percentile of Pakistan is cousin marriages.
[00:09:12]  Right.
[00:09:12]  And so let me back up a little bit for us because I think there's, yes, the inbreeding, the malnutrition, the poverty.
[00:09:24]  But also, if you look again, nations that have been living on the equator have.
[00:09:32]  Less problem solving skills required than northern communities, right?
[00:09:38]  And the reason is you have good weather, you don't have seasons, you don't have your season list essentially, right?
[00:09:45]  You have food year round, you have a you don't have to plan for food storage, for shelter, you don't have to build complex civilizations because you're outside.
[00:09:55]  Now, there's actually statistics and studies that show that because the dominant lifestyle of an equator.
[00:10:05]  Is outdoors.
[00:10:06]  It actually, over the generation, breeds highly physical people.
[00:10:11]  And so you have these extremely fit, athletic builds of the black population who are living on the equator because they've lived outside and their life is focused on outdoor activity.
[00:10:24]  See, I always assumed it was that slaves were bred to be stronger and faster, but I think your theory has more to it.
[00:10:30]  I think it's that they noticed the strength of the slaves because of the location that God had.
[00:10:36]  Place these peoples.
[00:10:39]  And this isn't just even, this would be like the Dominican as well, Dominican Republic, right?
[00:10:43]  They're outside as well, but they're not, what I would call them as Black Hispanics.
[00:10:47]  But when you go north and you have seasons and you have the need to cultivate indoor activities, you're building.
[00:10:55]  Well, you're having architecture, you're having planning ahead.
[00:10:58]  And when you're inside half the year, you have intellectual pursuits rather than physical pursuits.
[00:11:02]  And so you're dealing with literature, you're dealing with poetry, you're dealing with inventions, you're dealing with music, you're dealing with, which And again, it's not just European, it's also China, it's also Russia, it's also Japan.
[00:11:14]  So you have this reality where you have over generations differences of IQ developing between the northern territories and the equator territories.
[00:11:26]  But then you combine that with, again, poverty and inbreeding, and you have this complex reality.
[00:11:31]  Now, IQ is generally stable, it's hereditary generally.
[00:11:35]  You can change it through nutrition.
[00:11:37]  If you give a child really great food, And really great upbringing.
[00:11:40]  You also bring Christianity into the picture, and then you have a totally different reality.
[00:11:44]  Now, we know that the gospel went from Jerusalem, it went out west toward Greece and Rome, and then went out west even further toward the European nations, and then also to America.
[00:11:55]  And America, as it stabilized as a nation, started sending missionaries where?
[00:11:58]  Well, to Africa and to other nations.
[00:12:01]  And so the gospel has been among the white nations for a much longer time than it has the African nations.
[00:12:09]  And so when you again have the African nations where you're having.
[00:12:14]  You know, thousands of years of demon worship combined with different, you know, environmental factors and poverty, you start to produce different groups of people that I think can be reversed, but it's not instantaneously.
[00:12:30]  It is over generations and it does demand the gospel.
[00:12:34]  And so I think you combine the two together.

=== Religion, Discipline, and Honesty (06:07) ===

[00:12:36]  But I think if we have a discussion around this, you know, the bell curve book that was written in the 1990s, which I believe.
[00:12:44]  Charles Murray, right?
[00:12:45]  Yeah.
[00:12:45]  And actually, I think the other guy is a Jewish guy that wrote it.
[00:12:49]  He was a Harvard, he was like the chief psychologist at Harvard in 1994.
[00:12:53]  And he talks about this.
[00:12:56]  It was a controversial book, but it was also a New York Times bestseller in 1990, 1994.
[00:13:01]  And so I think there's a conversation to be had here.
[00:13:05]  I'm not saying I'm an expert or a scholar on this, but I do believe that these conversations are going to be more common and need to happen to figure out how do we Christianize?
[00:13:15]  How do we develop?
[00:13:16]  How do we look at nations?
[00:13:20]  Look at peoples.
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[00:14:30]  I'm fascinated by what you said because.
[00:14:32]  We've known for a while from the fall of Rome and from the apparent fall of Europe that nations, on a societal level, if you have abundance, you have decadence.
[00:14:40]  That follows.
[00:14:41]  But it's also on an individual or a personal level, in that living around the equator where you have an abundance of food, you have a decadence in the degree that you don't develop the emotional, spiritual, and intellectual level that you need to as a human being.
[00:14:56]  So having too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.
[00:14:58]  Correct.
[00:14:58]  Essentially.
[00:14:59]  Well, and it's not a coincidence that you essentially have impoverished nations on the equator more so than you do in the north.
[00:15:06]  Right.
[00:15:07]  We can't afford to be poor on the North because you'll die from poor.
[00:15:10]  That's right.
[00:15:11]  There were poor people and their line was cut off.
[00:15:15]  So, as Christians, I think number one, we have a moral obligation to display intellectual honesty.
[00:15:26]  So, we have to be truthful.
[00:15:28]  But, two, we want to root everything that we can in the Christian narrative.
[00:15:37]  And so, We're not, none of us are Darwinianist.
[00:15:41]  Um, we're all we believe in the biblical narrative.
[00:15:45]  Um, that said, so I, you know, this will probably get clipped out, but if anybody's you know being in the vein of intellectual honesty, if they actually include the caveats that I'm going to provide, then there's nothing you know immoral or wrong about what I'm about to say.
[00:16:02]  But, um, one of the things that we just don't, we still don't fully grasp, um, culture comes from the Latin word cultus, it's worship.
[00:16:11]  And when it comes to worship, when it comes to religion, every religion, every major world religion has a eugenics program.
[00:16:21]  It's not whether, but which.
[00:16:23]  Immoral forms of eugenics are immoral.
[00:16:27]  They're wrong.
[00:16:27]  Forced sterilization or these kinds of things are heinous.
[00:16:33]  And I would never say otherwise.
[00:16:35]  But when you look at world religions, dietary restrictions, does religion have anything to say about you keep mentioning nutrition?
[00:16:45]  And you're absolutely right.
[00:16:46]  Does religion have anything to say about nutrition?
[00:16:49]  Plenty.
[00:16:50]  Plenty, exactly.
[00:16:52]  Does religion have anything to say about catechesis and education and training?
[00:16:57]  Plenty.
[00:16:57]  Does religion have anything to say about whose bloodline is cut off from a people based off of crimes, immorality?
[00:17:05]  These kinds of things?
[00:17:06]  Plenty.
[00:17:07]  Does religion have anything to say about who you can and cannot marry?
[00:17:12]  Like, do these things have genetic implications?
[00:17:16]  Well, of course they do.
[00:17:17]  So, you know, like, it's funny.
[00:17:20]  People would be like, well, Joel's, you know, so I'm not a race essentialist.
[00:17:24]  I think that religion is higher.
[00:17:26]  I'm also not a racial determinist.
[00:17:29]  I do believe that in the providence of God, albeit very slowly, so not in 15 minutes, but over the course of generations, I believe that the deck can shuffle.
[00:17:38]  So I'm not a racial determinist.
[00:17:40]  If Europe and America, if whites continue, continue being the key word, because we're currently doing it, if we continue for a thousand years to apostatize against the Lord Jesus Christ and other nations, non white nations, Not just convert in some silly revival crusade, decisionism for Christ, but deeply, deeply discipled in the Christian faith and apply all of Christ to all of life for a thousand years,
[00:18:09]  then I believe that it's conceivable that another race of people could actually, in biological and objective metrics, pass up Europeans, not in 20 years, not in even 100 years, but in a thousand years, genetically across the board, in Certain arenas, including IQ, because religion, worship is, we're not Gnostics.
[00:18:37]  We believe that the soul is of infinite value, that the eternal matters more.

=== The Christian Diet and Body (02:38) ===

[00:18:43]  But even the Apostle Paul, he doesn't say spiritual training is of infinite value and therefore be a fat lard.
[00:18:49]  Physical training is of no value at all.
[00:18:51]  No, he doesn't say that, much to the chagrin of all these 300 pound pastors who don't smoke or drink, but they're eating, you know, meatballs.
[00:18:59]  If they're not disciplined in body, they're probably not disciplined in mind.
[00:19:01]  Amen.
[00:19:01]  And so, We're not Gnostics.
[00:19:03]  Paul says, you know, spiritual training is of a greater value, but physical training, he doesn't assign to it no value.
[00:19:11]  He assigns to it some value.
[00:19:13]  So the body is a real category.
[00:19:16]  God made the physical material world and said it was good.
[00:19:19]  God loves the world.
[00:19:21]  I believe that refers to people, but also the cosmos.
[00:19:24]  God actually loves his material creation enough to actually step into it in real human history with a physical body.
[00:19:32]  And the Lord Jesus Christ, not just temporarily, but he is still in the glorified physical body for all of eternity, which is a phenomenal mystery to think about.
[00:19:43]  And so, all that being said, my point is that when I think of Europeans, for instance, you're talking about you could go all the way back to Constantine or at least a thousand years to King Alfred.
[00:19:55]  Even in what is it?
[00:19:59]  It's fiction, but there's strains of truth because a real person wrote the book.
[00:20:05]  Treasure Island.
[00:20:06]  Treasure Island, you have Ben, who is it?
[00:20:08]  Ben Gunn, who's marauded for six years on the island, you know, who's left there.
[00:20:12]  And then finally, you know, the good guys show up, and Jim Hawkins, the cabin boy, is the first one to encounter Ben Gunn, who's, you know, lost his mind at this point.
[00:20:22]  He's been alone for six years on this island.
[00:20:25]  And the first thing that he says to Jim Hawkins, the boy, is he says, Please, sir, my mother did not raise me to be a heathen.
[00:20:33]  These last six years, I have been without a Christian diet.
[00:20:37]  And he calls it, do you have any cheese or milk or eggs?
[00:20:41]  And he calls it a Christian diet.
[00:20:42]  And again, I understand, I'm aware that it's a fictional story, but the person who wrote it is a real person and who was shaped in the milieu of Christian thought, European Christian thought, for centuries.
[00:20:55]  And he says it as just matter of fact, as common speech, as though nobody would even begin to question the point that he's asserting.
[00:21:03]  And the point is that there aren't just, it's not just keto versus vegetarian versus this.
[00:21:11]  No, it's, there is a Hindu diet, there is an Islamic diet.
[00:21:17]  There is a Christian diet, so which these days we would call civilized exactly.

=== England's Higher Spiritual Value (14:50) ===

[00:21:22]  And so, so religion impacts everything.
[00:21:26]  So, there's a reason when you see a politician eating rice and slop with his hands that it repulses you on a level, amen.
[00:21:31]  And that's that's the very reason, exactly.
[00:21:33]  So, so for us to deny, okay, if Europeans were shaped by Christianity for a thousand years, arguably you know, longer, uh, but a thousand years, and and Christianity has something to say about what you eat and about who you marry and about capital punishment, who doesn't get.
[00:21:52]  To further their line because they're a rank degenerate and all like also about arts and arts and education and media and everything else that you when you're building a society, music.
[00:22:01]  So, if all these things are true and you have a people who subjected themselves to the word of God speaking to every single issue of life for a thousand years, of course there's a tangible benefit.
[00:22:14]  And to say that there's not, right?
[00:22:16]  Oh, so they would, yeah, they would have spiritual uh benefits, but no physical at all.
[00:22:21]  That is that I think it's her, I think that is a heretical position.
[00:22:24]  That is Gnosticism.
[00:22:25]  That is to say, that the gospel has no tangible material effect in the world at all.
[00:22:31]  I think that's an impotent gospel that only covers the penalty for sin, penal substitutionary atonement, but has nothing to say about breaking the power of sin.
[00:22:43]  And he comes to make his blessings flow as far as the curse is found.
[00:22:47]  Are there physical curses?
[00:22:49]  Yes.
[00:22:49]  Then I believe that the blessings of the gospel actually are able to overcome through time generationally.
[00:22:56]  Those physical curses.
[00:22:57]  And then, what would be the consequence if there was another people, right?
[00:23:01]  So, I've given the European example, another people that did not even receive the gospel until the last 200 years.
[00:23:09]  And in the meantime, we're worshiping demons and using even substance abuse to open portals, to have spiritual experiences and intermarrying, like you were saying, Calvin, for generation after generation.
[00:23:22]  Of course, there would be a tangible physical difference.
[00:23:26]  Of course, there would.
[00:23:27]  And so then you take these people and strip them of their homeland and bring them to America and then, you know, feel bad about it and grant them freedom and the right to vote.
[00:23:38]  And then Jews come in and begin to tell them that they're actually not only equality is on the table, but actually they're owed superiority because of past oppression and mistreatment.
[00:23:49]  And so now it's entitlement.
[00:23:51]  And then we wonder what's going on.
[00:23:53]  And so my point is yes, it's cultural.
[00:23:55]  Yes, rap music is a stain on our society, it's a net liability.
[00:24:01]  So, yes, the culture and all these things are a problem, and fatherlessness is a problem.
[00:24:07]  But we also, I think, have to recognize at some level that race is real, biology is real, it can fluctuate over time through the power of the gospel, which is so potent, so efficacious, that it can affect even the realm of the physical, even as it pertains to a people, to a race.
[00:24:28]  But it takes time.
[00:24:31]  Occurring in America, albeit slowly, but it was occurring.
[00:24:36]  And then we came in and put a sharp stop to it and have done blacks an almost irreparable disservice.
[00:24:44]  And now we are faced with a very difficult question of what to do moving forward.
[00:24:51]  It's a question of the spiritual realm, I think you're talking about here.
[00:24:53]  The things that affect us that we don't necessarily, we can't tangibly put down on pen and paper.
[00:24:59]  And you mentioned music.
[00:25:01]  That's a good example.
[00:25:02]  Like rap music is inherently evil, it's promoting degeneracy, murder, hypersexuality.
[00:25:08]  You know, it's just sin.
[00:25:10]  It's also got those jungle beats.
[00:25:12]  But on a deeper level than that, on a level we've forgotten, frequency matters.
[00:25:17]  Right.
[00:25:17]  And music used to be on a certain frequency until the Jews came in and changed the frequency.
[00:25:21]  And people are going to think I'm crazy for this, but look it up.
[00:25:23]  But even deeper than that, every Christian country had bells because we know that bells ward off evil.
[00:25:29]  Or we used to know that on a spiritual level.
[00:25:31]  We forgot trolls.
[00:25:32]  Right.
[00:25:32]  They've gotten all of this knowledge.
[00:25:33]  They ward off trolls, was one of the beliefs.
[00:25:35]  Mohammedans hate music and they hate bells.
[00:25:38]  Why?
[00:25:38]  Because the devil hates music and their devil hates bells because music is beautiful.
[00:25:42]  Transcendental, it takes us out of ourselves, directs our gaze towards God.
[00:25:46]  And so the enemy undermines that through Mohammedanism, but also through Judaism.
[00:25:49]  And so our culture on a spiritual level has shifted in ways that we don't even recognize because we're no longer in touch with the spiritual realm.
[00:25:56]  We've got to reconnect with all the things that affect us.
[00:25:59]  From the design of the ancient architecture, there's a reason when people go to Europe, they're like, this is a beautiful church.
[00:26:04]  This is beautiful.
[00:26:05]  Because we knew, the Masons knew back in the day, how to design a dome so the frequencies reverberated off of it and it feeds us, it heals us.
[00:26:14]  On a spiritual level, we need that in our lives.
[00:26:16]  Well, and I would argue on a physical level.
[00:26:18]  Yeah, but when we're divorced of that, such as in a continent that has none of that, none of that healing is going on, or not to the same degree.
[00:26:25]  And you mentioned the white race maybe has a thousand years to return to Christ.
[00:26:30]  I don't think the white race has a thousand years left.
[00:26:33]  Yeah.
[00:26:33]  White Britain will be extinct, well, it will be the minority by 2060, unless something rapidly changes in the immediate future.
[00:26:39]  So that's just Britain.
[00:26:41]  The rest of Europe is looking very similar.
[00:26:43]  White people are an endangered minority.
[00:26:46]  Yes.
[00:26:47]  Yeah.
[00:26:47]  So there's little time to return to growth.
[00:26:49]  Let's talk about this conversation around assimilation, biblical assimilation, because I think we go, okay, well, what do we do?
[00:26:58]  What do we do with a nation, at least that has been what I would call heritage Americans that have been here for hundreds of years?
[00:27:05]  You have a black population.
[00:27:07]  Again, we purchased in 1848 basically the western, southwest of the United States, which had obviously Hispanics, which again are half European also.
[00:27:18]  But we have this unique nation that has at least three groups of people.
[00:27:25]  We never had historically Arabs.
[00:27:26]  We never had historically Asians.
[00:27:28]  We never had historically Indians.
[00:27:30]  So they could all go.
[00:27:32]  But the white American brought the black American in.
[00:27:34]  So you have a duty and an obligation to that community.
[00:27:37]  Well, yes.
[00:27:39]  And there's probably some sort of a solution which needs to be forefronted with the gospel at some direction.
[00:27:48]  The Southwest, especially.
[00:27:50]  Again, we purchased this territory.
[00:27:52]  We're going to see a lot of interracial marriage between Hispanics and whites.
[00:28:00]  My wife is Hispanic.
[00:28:01]  She's half European, half Spanish, and half Mexican.
[00:28:06]  And I think that's in the Southwest.
[00:28:08]  I grew up in the Southwest in Southern California and I live in the Southwest in Arizona now.
[00:28:13]  I believe that is something that I don't know if you're ever going to get away from.
[00:28:17]  The reality is, I think it's almost producing a new ethnos of people.
[00:28:23]  That are maybe slightly more tan European descents.
[00:28:27]  And that's not a permanent thing, but that's a transitional thing.
[00:28:29]  It is.
[00:28:30]  To integrate the African Americans into the American ethnicity, as well as the culture and the people, you've got to have intermarriage.
[00:28:40]  And you'll have generations that look like me that are brown or beige or, you know.
[00:28:43]  Yes, but you're not the end result, right?
[00:28:45]  Exactly.
[00:28:46]  Yeah.
[00:28:46]  So you're a transitional reality.
[00:28:49]  And if I think the conversation is what do we see in scripture?
[00:28:53]  And I think we obviously, Ruth the Moabite is the easiest to run to because she says, you know, Your people will be my people.
[00:29:01]  Your people will be my people.
[00:29:02]  Your God.
[00:29:03]  Your God will be my God.
[00:29:05]  And she gives herself over.
[00:29:07]  Now.
[00:29:08]  And real quick, and it's not a coincidence that four generations then removed.
[00:29:12]  So Ruth joins Israel and they immediately, you know, make her Hebrew of the month.
[00:29:20]  No.
[00:29:21]  But Ruth and Boaz beget Obed.
[00:29:24]  Obed begets Jesse.
[00:29:26]  Jesse begets David.
[00:29:28]  So by the time it gets to David, It'd be 50% with Obed, 75% with Jesse, 87.5%.
[00:29:39]  So, by the time you get to David, the best king in the history of Israel, second king in chronological order, a man after God's own heart, he is, for all intents and purposes, a true Israelite, not just spiritually, but also biologically.
[00:29:53]  And that second piece, I don't think, is a coincidence in the mind of God.
[00:29:57]  So, just to be clear, it sounds like you're both promoting race mixing.
[00:30:00]  Yeah, well, I think someone like myself, right, who's not a priest.
[00:30:04]  So take a single mixed race man like myself, who would you say he shouldn't mix race, as in he should find another mixed race person to marry, or would you say he should find a white American woman to marry?
[00:30:15]  Do you view yourself as English?
[00:30:17]  I am English, yeah.
[00:30:17]  Do you love the English heritage?
[00:30:20]  Yes.
[00:30:20]  You should marry a white English woman.
[00:30:22]  But that's race mixing, surely.
[00:30:24]  It is.
[00:30:25]  Well, and I would say it's assimilation.
[00:30:27]  Now, if you were, again, the difference is that.
[00:30:31]  The conversation about men and women.
[00:30:33]  Well, if you were a woman, I would certainly say, well, that's the normative reality is that you're going to submit to your husband's ethnicity and his lineage.
[00:30:46]  His lineage.
[00:30:47]  And you're going to fall into that's what we see with Ruth.
[00:30:50]  So, what makes the justification for a man doing it?
[00:30:53]  Because you're in a situation where your mom was white, your dad was black.
[00:30:56]  Are you going to go back and marry a Jamaican woman?
[00:30:59]  Well, I think that would follow the.
[00:31:02]  The patriarchal structure, but because England is Christian and has a higher spiritual value, and if we put Christianity at the top as the most important factor, I think the justification goes well, we're going to what is Christian, and Jamaica is historically less Christian than that's the problem, is all these nations are Christian now.
[00:31:22]  Like, you, I mean, Haiti is Christian, yeah.
[00:31:25]  Oh, didn't you know Haiti is Christian?
[00:31:27]  So Christian, you know, like, yeah, it's a syncretism of Catholic and voodoo, like, it's you know, it's Christian, sure.
[00:31:36]  Um.
[00:31:36]  But no, I would say that, like, England in its history, not currently, but in its history, is truly Christian, whereas Jamaica has not had any real, true Christian heritage.
[00:31:50]  It was a colony of England.
[00:31:52]  Right.
[00:31:52]  Before that, it was the Indians.
[00:31:53]  So I would say, one is the validity of, like, true, genuine Christianity in England's past.
[00:32:01]  But then, second, and I don't think that this even has to require a disclaimer, I don't think you have to apologize or anything.
[00:32:08]  I think you just say, well, England is superior.
[00:32:11]  Yeah.
[00:32:11]  England is superior.
[00:32:12]  England is the better culture.
[00:32:14]  For the vast majority of our history, Englishmen have been willing to say the English race is superior up until the World Wars.
[00:32:20]  So then you want to stay in that vein.
[00:32:22]  So you marry a white English woman.
[00:32:24]  I mean, people that were under English rule.
[00:32:27]  I just watched a video about a black man talking about how, who lived in a particular part of Africa, said that white supremacy came from black people.
[00:32:36]  It was a phrase that was used by black people that they were saying these men have put pipes and their water comes into their house and it's heated.
[00:32:46]  Or they have airplanes that fly over our heads.
[00:32:50]  And when we see these people, we go, my goodness.
[00:32:53]  Now, again, we notice that superiority in a whole bunch of things, right?
[00:32:56]  Is the rivers of Alaska superior to the rivers of India?
[00:33:01]  Of course, they are.
[00:33:03]  We have no problem admitting that.
[00:33:04]  Is America as a military power superior to Jamaica?
[00:33:09]  Yes.
[00:33:09]  Certainly.
[00:33:10]  So, superiority and inferiority, we don't like that reality because it's a conversation around egalitarianism.
[00:33:17]  Are men superior to women?
[00:33:20]  Yes.
[00:33:22]  And are men superior to women in nurturing?
[00:33:24]  No.
[00:33:25]  So, you have to qualify these things and you can't have blanket statements.
[00:33:30]  Are whites superior to blacks?
[00:33:32]  Well, what category are we talking about?
[00:33:34]  Are we talking about athletes?
[00:33:36]  Then no, certainly not.
[00:33:38]  Creativity, yes.
[00:33:39]  Yeah, music, yes.
[00:33:42]  Intellect.
[00:33:43]  Sure.
[00:33:44]  So, what I'm saying is that there's a whole bunch of discussions and dimensions that need to take place to have a delicate conversation without getting offended.
[00:33:52]  The key question to this whole talk is to be willing to have a discussion without your emotions ruling the conversation and allowing to have facts, conversations, Christ and the gospel.
[00:34:05]  To manage it.
[00:34:06]  And also, again, be real, this is a conversation that no one has ever had to have because nobody had a multicultural nation until really the last 100 years.
[00:34:15]  Right.
[00:34:16]  This is the product of technological innovation, planes, trains, automobiles, the world.
[00:34:20]  We have made the world smaller through innovation.
[00:34:24]  So this is unique.
[00:34:27]  You can look to Aquinas, you can look to Augustine for some, but they were not dealing in the same way that the founders could not conceive of millions of Muslims coming into the country.
[00:34:36]  Perhaps if they did, they would have been more explicit about the Lord Jesus Christ.
[00:34:40]  It's the same kind of concept.
[00:34:42]  These are things that were not perceived.
[00:34:43]  And so the church has to go back to the drawing board and sharpen its positions.
[00:34:48]  But that said.
[00:34:50]  Meaning that our sons will have better positions than we do.
[00:34:54]  Yeah.
[00:34:54]  Because they'll have more time and they'll be working off the shoulders of the work that we build.
[00:35:00]  Which.
[00:35:00]  But my point is that said, all three of us agree.
[00:35:03]  And I know, tongue in cheek, Calvin, you were making the joke because.
[00:35:07]  Dale and I both found ourselves a while back in hot water over the interracial marriage issue.
[00:35:12]  But it is true, and both Dale and I would affirm that in biblical terminology and throughout human history, assimilation, if it be true and lasting assimilation, always came through intermarriage.
[00:35:26]  Even if two countries were to form an alliance, how did they do it?
[00:35:30]  How did two kings form an alliance between their sons and daughters?
[00:35:33]  Their sons and daughters would marry.
[00:35:35]  Always.
[00:35:35]  Always.
[00:35:35]  Always in intermarriage.
[00:35:37]  Now, that said, in the case of America, Like, it's not rocket science.
[00:35:43]  It's not complicated.
[00:35:44]  It is hard, right?
[00:35:46]  And how do you get to that point?
[00:35:48]  Because, as Chris Rock would say, there's the blacks, but then there's the niggas.
[00:35:51]  Nobody wants to marry them.
[00:35:53]  Yeah.
[00:35:53]  So, how do you get to that point?
[00:35:55]  They don't even want to marry each other.
[00:35:58]  Yes.
[00:35:59]  So, to me, again, not rocket science.
[00:36:03]  So, it's not complicated.
[00:36:04]  It's like chopping wood.
[00:36:05]  Chopping wood is not complex, but it is hard.
[00:36:08]  You're going to sweat and probably bleed a little bit.
[00:36:11]  So, what is the solution?

=== True Assimilation Over Generations (14:44) ===

[00:36:12]  First, You have to go back to the Hart Cellar Act.
[00:36:16]  You have to go back about 50, 60 years and say, I'm sorry, but Ilhan Omar is not an American and never will be.
[00:36:27]  And her and many others that she represents need to be deported from the country humanely.
[00:36:33]  And this is the moderate, compassionate Christian position.
[00:36:37]  This is not cruel.
[00:36:38]  This is not mean.
[00:36:39]  We're allowed to have a country.
[00:36:41]  You don't belong here.
[00:36:42]  You are not a part of this land, this lineage, this language, this love, traditions, liturgy, worship, culture.
[00:36:49]  It's not yours.
[00:36:51]  And so, first, you actually have to do mass deportations.
[00:36:55]  And I would argue that you need to deport about 25 to 33, about a quarter to a third of the country actually has to be deported.
[00:37:04]  70 million is the number of immigrants since the Heart Cell Act, the vast majority of them.
[00:37:11]  62 million, not from European nations.
[00:37:14]  Yes, exactly.
[00:37:15]  So, I was going to say about 85, 90% of those, not from European compatible nations.
[00:37:21]  That does not even include their posterity.
[00:37:23]  And how many children they've had in the last 60 years since Hartzeller was 1965.
[00:37:28]  And so, exactly 60, 60, 61 years at this point, the number of children.
[00:37:33]  So, you're talking about 70 million, 62 of those non European in the last 60 years since Hartzeller, which was designed by a Jew in order to destroy the nation.
[00:37:42]  And it's been very successful.
[00:37:44]  And then you account for their children, at least two generations, three in some cases.
[00:37:50]  And so, you're looking at 100, approximately 100 to 100.
[00:37:55]  20, 130 million in a country of 330 million.
[00:37:58]  So you're looking at about a third of the country was brought here with the express design to sabotage the country and have to be removed.
[00:38:10]  And so you have to do that.
[00:38:11]  When you're done with that, you're still going to have some racial diversity within America because some of it is baked into the pie.
[00:38:18]  It's like, hey, if you didn't want blacks here, then you shouldn't have bought them.
[00:38:24]  But that ship sailed.
[00:38:26]  Like literally, the ships dropped them off and sailed.
[00:38:28]  So they're here now.
[00:38:30]  You've got to do something in terms of true assimilation.
[00:38:36]  Historically speaking, biblically speaking, it is interracial marriage.
[00:38:40]  Now, it's like, oh, well, this seems like a glaring inconsistency because you just did this debate, you know, where you were against interracial marriage.
[00:38:46]  No, it makes sense.
[00:38:47]  My position, and I'll state it again, we talked about it, you know, in our last episode, right there briefly at the end, but my position is interracial marriage, although biblically permissible.
[00:38:57]  So all of church history has no council.
[00:38:59]  No creed has condemned interracial marriage as a sin.
[00:39:02]  And I'm not going to be the first, right?
[00:39:04]  You find something novel, you found heresy.
[00:39:07]  And so it is biblically permissible.
[00:39:09]  It is not a sin.
[00:39:10]  And because it's not a sin, I don't believe that it should be criminalized.
[00:39:14]  If it's not a sin, there are some sins that are not crimes.
[00:39:18]  Coveting, for instance, would be an example.
[00:39:21]  It is a sin, but it's not a crime.
[00:39:23]  Being drunk privately in your home, it is a sin, but it's not a crime.
[00:39:26]  So you can have a sin that's not a crime.
[00:39:28]  You cannot, I mean, you can because of tyranny, but you cannot righteously.
[00:39:32]  Ever have a crime that's not a sin.
[00:39:36]  So if interracial marriage is not a sin, and I maintain that it's not, then it cannot also be a crime.
[00:39:43]  Which means you get the uproar around your previous conversations online, because as someone who is not a white man himself, I recognize that Britain is predominantly white and always has been, and therefore always should be.
[00:39:54]  I don't see that as a slight against myself.
[00:39:56]  I see that as just a natural fact.
[00:39:58]  It's God's good order for our country.
[00:40:00]  Amen.
[00:40:00]  So interracial marriage, real quick.
[00:40:01]  So, there's an ideal.
[00:40:02]  While being biblically permissible, aka not a sin, therefore not a crime, ordinarily, this was my position, or generally, so not universally in each and every individual case in the micro, but in the macro generally goes against God's ordinary slash normative plan for peoples, cultures, and nations.
[00:40:24]  So, in the case of America, one, you deport a ton of people.
[00:40:29]  Two, once you've done that, then I believe that you could achieve, it's 59% white, European at this point.
[00:40:35]  I believe that you could, through mass deportations, going back to the Hartzeller Act, achieve 75 to 85% white majority.
[00:40:43]  And then, with that remaining majority, you're going to have some Hispanics that are, I would consider heritage Hispanics.
[00:40:50]  They fought with us at the Alamo.
[00:40:54]  They love our country.
[00:40:55]  They've forsaken their heritage.
[00:40:58]  This now is their heritage.
[00:40:59]  They're Christians.
[00:41:00]  They love America.
[00:41:02]  So, some Hispanics would fit the bill, some less, but some Asians would fit the bill.
[00:41:07]  And then certainly you would have heritage blacks, right?
[00:41:10]  I am not of the persuasion that Clarence Thomas has to go back.
[00:41:12]  I like Clarence Thomas.
[00:41:15]  Go back where?
[00:41:17]  This is his home.
[00:41:19]  And that decision has already been made and the ship has sailed.
[00:41:22]  So, with remaining predominantly speaking of heritage blacks, if you're going to have one, you can have with still not intermarrying between blacks and whites, you could still have mono ethnicity because ethnicity is more, it's land, lineage, loves, language, liturgy.
[00:41:42]  Laws, these things, you could have mono ethnic and monocultural America with heritage blacks and heritage whites.
[00:41:50]  And there probably would be, whether formally or informally, some measure of separation and these kinds of things.
[00:41:55]  That's one route.
[00:41:57]  Although that always leaves open the door for identity politics and for politicians, especially if you're the governor of Georgia and Atlanta is your capital city, and we know the demographics of Atlanta, you're constantly going to have this inclination to play towards the black population over and against whites.
[00:42:16]  So So, one is you just kind of hold your separate places.
[00:42:21]  And the only way that's possible is through Christianity with the impartiality virtue of if you have this governor who is black, who's Christian.
[00:42:29]  So, Christianity would soften the division.
[00:42:32]  Absolutely.
[00:42:32]  The division, because Christianity is not Gnosticism, and so it still maintains natural distinctions.
[00:42:40]  So, Christianity would soften the walls of hostility, it would soften them.
[00:42:45]  But the distinctions would still, in the category of nature, remain.
[00:42:49]  And there would be different incentives for different peoples according to nature while both being Christian.
[00:42:55]  And so there would still be some measure of division that Japan would not experience.
[00:42:59]  And that's just a reality.
[00:43:01]  But it would be better, certainly.
[00:43:03]  Right now, the natural distinctions have devolved into supernatural divisions because of the eroding of the Christian fabric.
[00:43:12]  It's exasperated.
[00:43:13]  The absence of Christianity has exasperated these divisions.
[00:43:16]  So that would be an improvement.
[00:43:17]  And that's one solution.
[00:43:19]  Another solution would be.
[00:43:22]  To not just be monocultural and monoethnic, but actually monoracial over time through true assimilation.
[00:43:28]  And the only way historically it's ever been achieved, which would be interracial marriage, which is like, Joel, that's a glaring inconsistency with your position.
[00:43:34]  Well, I think that we could achieve 85, 80, 85% white with remaining heritage blacks.
[00:43:42]  It would be now normative to intermittent.
[00:43:43]  No, it would still be the minority, right?
[00:43:46]  If there's 10% blacks, 5% Hispanics, 85% whites, it would still be the minority in that case.
[00:43:54]  It would still fit my position.
[00:43:56]  It would not be mandated.
[00:43:57]  It wouldn't be formalized.
[00:43:59]  No white man.
[00:44:01]  It would happen naturally, be forced to give his daughter to like if no, I don't want to do that, but it would naturally happen over time, and then the problem would be solved.
[00:44:10]  And here's the deal the pro we would probably be right there at the precipice in this moment, chronologically in history, of the problem being solved if it hadn't been for Jewish influence, yeah, for apostasy towards Christianity, the Civil Rights Act, and all these.
[00:44:26]  It's like we almost had it fixed.
[00:44:28]  Well, we almost had it.
[00:44:30]  I grew up in Southern California, uh.
[00:44:32]  In a heavily multicultural area in the 1990s.
[00:44:35]  And I remember just thinking that the conversation of racism was wild because it just wasn't even a thing.
[00:44:42]  And there was, I think, something about the 90s was there was some peak on a lot of dimensions, but there was also a lot of problems.
[00:44:50]  One thing I want to bring back up to both of us is, or both of you here is, yeah, let's, the monarchs that got together that said, hey, you know, Germany and Austria, let's just say they wanted to get together and say, well, they're already pretty close peoples.
[00:45:04]  Right.
[00:45:05]  But let's just say that Arizona became its own nation and a particular portion of northern Mexico said, Hey, we're going to merge together.
[00:45:14]  Again, I think that's possible.
[00:45:16]  And over the next generation or two or three or four, we're going to see this becoming a new ethnicity, essentially, together.
[00:45:23]  That agreed upon merging is different than the projecting malicious immigration policies that we're dealing with today.
[00:45:32]  No one voted for what we're dealing with today.
[00:45:34]  Yeah.
[00:45:35]  So what's happening to us is that it's being.
[00:45:37]  It's being projected upon us at a degree of malicious intent.
[00:45:41]  Yes.
[00:45:41]  And not just at a foreign policy level, but as a media level.
[00:45:46]  So you are seeing every, like I always say that Friends, Friends from the 1990s and the early 2000s actually, was five white people.
[00:45:56]  I know the one guy was a Jew, but five white people that are there and there's not a black guy in the cast.
[00:46:02]  And that's in 2003.
[00:46:03]  Right.
[00:46:04]  And so that wasn't that long ago.
[00:46:08]  But what we have now is every TV show has an unrealistic reality.
[00:46:12]  Overrepresentation.
[00:46:13]  Overrepresentation, and.
[00:46:15]  Which stokes division further.
[00:46:17]  Yes.
[00:46:17]  Because it builds resentment.
[00:46:19]  Yes.
[00:46:19]  You know, one of the last conversations I had with Charlie Kirk is that the mayor of London is the devil, isn't he?
[00:46:24]  He is demonic.
[00:46:25]  We have Sadiq Khan, a Mohammedan, running the biggest capital in the West.
[00:46:30]  We've got Shabnam Mahmoud, a Mohammedan woman, as the home secretary of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
[00:46:37]  Like, literally, the person in charge of policing and immigration.
[00:46:40]  Is an immigrant herself.
[00:46:42]  That suicidal empathy has gone way beyond that point to murder us.
[00:46:46]  Calvin, what would Charlie say about us bombing Iran?
[00:46:51]  I don't, you know what?
[00:46:52]  I had a phone call with Charlie's team last week and I said to them, you know, if you're not asking, well, they were asking for my advice, but I said, not to give it unsolicitedly, but if I could advise one thing, it's stop saying what you think Charlie would do or what Charlie would say.
[00:47:06]  Play his clips, put his words up and then say what you think and what you would say.
[00:47:10]  And that's the message I gave to Turning Point.
[00:47:12]  So that's the message I'm going to give too.
[00:47:13]  We know what Charlie would think because we could see the clips.
[00:47:16]  I personally think that the war in Iran is a massive mistake.
[00:47:19]  Yes.
[00:47:19]  And I wish there were more voices in the White House saying that.
[00:47:22]  And I think if he was alive, he probably would be amongst those voices.
[00:47:25]  But I don't want to attribute any words to him.
[00:47:26]  Yeah.
[00:47:27]  Yeah.
[00:47:28]  Fair.
[00:47:28]  Yeah.
[00:47:29]  I think the conversation now is so around interracial marriage, around assimilation, is that it's forced upon.
[00:47:35]  I was at the bank and I saw an ad that was like a white redhead.
[00:47:42]  With a black lady with a fro, with a Mexican guy and an Asian guy all standing there laughing with ice cream cones.
[00:47:48]  And I've never seen this in reality.
[00:47:52]  Maybe you see this in the most liberal neighborhoods of Los Angeles because they're all trying so hard to virtue signal with one another that they are demonstrating their own.
[00:48:02]  And they're all, in that case, very rare case, they're still the common denominator of class.
[00:48:08]  They all happen to be millionaires in a gated community.
[00:48:10]  Yes.
[00:48:11]  So what I'm saying is that we need to, assimilation needs to be organic, it needs to be natural.
[00:48:18]  It needs to be, I think, Christianity needs to be at the top.
[00:48:22]  Obviously, we know that as Christians, there's no marriage.
[00:48:25]  There's no interfaith marriage permitted.
[00:48:28]  And so the conversation about assimilation is yes, you need deportation.
[00:48:35]  Yes, I think you also need remigration.
[00:48:37]  And remigration is that these are, say, people that could stay as citizens.
[00:48:41]  Kong Min Lee, right?
[00:48:44]  He once told me in a conversation, he said, Yeah, I'm thinking about moving back to Korea.
[00:48:49]  And I said, Oh, why?
[00:48:50]  And he said, Well, I was born here.
[00:48:52]  He said, But I love my people.
[00:48:53]  And he's Christian and he's a man.
[00:48:55]  And I thought, That is so awesome because he was willing to say, I want to go Christianize my homeland.
[00:49:02]  Yes.
[00:49:03]  And so I think there's a group of people.
[00:49:04]  I'm still praying for Samuel Say to get that call to go and Christianize Ghana.
[00:49:08]  Go Christianize Ghana.
[00:49:09]  Yeah.
[00:49:11]  I love that journey for him.
[00:49:12]  I think it's a very noble thing to do for a particular man.
[00:49:18]  It's not something you must do, but I think it's something that there will be a group of people that might go, How about I go back to the homeland and Christianize it?
[00:49:26]  So you have deportation, remigration.
[00:49:29]  And then you have biblical assimilation, which really is the intentionality of transnationalism.
[00:49:36]  And it's losing yourself within another ethnicity over generations.
[00:49:41]  And you need to ask yourself the question is that honoring to my father and mother?
[00:49:45]  These are questions that previous generations asked.
[00:49:49]  And I'm not saying that it's a yes or no.
[00:49:51]  Because the fifth commandment is real to honor thy father and mother.
[00:49:54]  And so theologically, in the way that this has to be co discerned and weighed with wisdom carefully, is in some cases, it's.
[00:50:03]  I love America.
[00:50:04]  I love these people and I love this place and I really want to be here.
[00:50:09]  But I know that if the answer is to be here, it means true assimilation, which is to lose myself.
[00:50:16]  And if to lose myself would be a breach in my case, because I come from a Christian heritage that may not have the same degree of prosperity, I like America because of its opulence and these kinds of certain comforts and conveniences.
[00:50:31]  But I come from a people that aren't as wealthy.
[00:50:34]  So, it'd be easier to stay in the physical, the practical, the tangible.
[00:50:38]  But I actually come from a rich heritage that is Christian.
[00:50:41]  And so I can't do, like when Ruth says, Your people will be my people, your God, my God, she is, by way of implication, by way of consequence, saying, All my former gods are no longer God to me.
[00:50:52]  And all my father's house and my people are no longer my people.

=== Forsaking Heritage for Glory (07:29) ===

[00:50:57]  And she could do that righteously because there was not a Christian contingent in Moab, right?
[00:51:03]  So she was not.
[00:51:04]  Forsaking a Christian heritage, she was forsaking a pagan one.
[00:51:08]  Right?
[00:51:08]  So, the person who wants to stay here, many of them, despite wanting to stay, still have to go back because they've entered illegally or they've committed crimes or these kinds of things, or they've just been here for 15 minutes.
[00:51:19]  But for those who have been here a while but have remained distinct and have not truly assimilated, they've married within their own class, within their own race, and these kinds of things for multiple generations and have not truly assimilated, they either have to say, I want to stay.
[00:51:35]  In which case, I am willing to lose myself.
[00:51:37]  Your people will be my people, your God, my God.
[00:51:40]  And to answer that question and for it to be righteous, they would have to be able to look at their past heritage and where they came from, their ancestors came from, and be able to say, this would not actually be a breach of the fifth commandment, a dishonorment of my father and mother because I am actually abandoning a non Christian country.
[00:51:59]  In the case where the losing of themselves would be the forsaking of another Christian heritage, then in that case, even though they love America and have been here, They should seriously and prayerfully consider the re immigration option that you have.
[00:52:13]  Yeah, the re migration.
[00:52:14]  Yeah.
[00:52:14]  So the reason we are even having these discussions is also because of individualism.
[00:52:18]  Yes.
[00:52:19]  Individualism doesn't take in consideration heritage at all.
[00:52:21]  Right.
[00:52:22]  And so this discussion for a lot of people is I'm going to marry who I want to marry because you be you.
[00:52:28]  Right.
[00:52:28]  And that needs to be stripped as well.
[00:52:31]  So this is so many layers.
[00:52:32]  That's a conservative problem as a direct reaction to the liberals' collectivism.
[00:52:35]  We have become hyper individualistic, whereas we've forgotten we have a duty and obligation to our country, to our people, to our tribe.
[00:52:41]  And that's part of the Christian nature.
[00:52:43]  So, somewhere between collectivism and individualism is that communitarian Christian reality.
[00:52:49]  Which us reformed folk would call covenantalism.
[00:52:52]  Here we go.
[00:52:53]  Yeah.
[00:52:54]  So, I do.
[00:52:54]  I think it's a very important dimension of this discussion thinking generationally, thinking backwards generationally, thinking forwards generationally.
[00:53:07]  I think the other exception to this discussion might be a missionary, someone who is willing to maybe sacrifice himself or.
[00:53:15]  For the glory of another nation.
[00:53:17]  Missionaries are a real category.
[00:53:18]  A real category.
[00:53:19]  And it might be that a particular gentleman from a European nation says, I'm going to bring the gospel here.
[00:53:27]  But my Christian forefathers would all stand in agreement and say, Yes, son, go do that.
[00:53:33]  And that might cause him to intermarry.
[00:53:35]  It might cause him to die not producing children.
[00:53:37]  It might cause him a variety of outcomes there.
[00:53:41]  But again, I think there are exceptions.
[00:53:43]  One thing I want to also talk about is that I don't think that immigration is the rule.
[00:53:48]  Ever, meaning that it's the exception throughout church history, throughout world history.
[00:53:53]  Immigration.
[00:53:54]  You might say it goes against God's normative slash ordinary plan for peoples, nations, and cultures.
[00:53:59]  Correct.
[00:53:59]  Yeah, so immigration.
[00:54:00]  Crazy position.
[00:54:01]  Immigration really is.
[00:54:04]  Why do we have equator nations with lower IQs, generally speaking, trying to come to northern hemisphere nations with higher IQs?
[00:54:18]  One, there's.
[00:54:19]  And I'm not talking about Christian nations.
[00:54:21]  I'm just talking about nations in general.
[00:54:24]  Well, again, they want what you have, right?
[00:54:26]  They want what you have without doing the work for it.
[00:54:29]  So they want to take it's covetousness, it's envy, it's theft.
[00:54:34]  And there's all of these things being played in this reality.
[00:54:38]  And there's nothing, again, inherently wrong with immigration if it's done right.
[00:54:45]  If there's these caveats, there's a necessity for it.
[00:54:47]  If there's a necessity, there's a desire to.
[00:54:49]  Go to a and submit yourself to the Lord Jesus Christ of a Christian nation, but again, what's happening now and to forsake your people, forsake your yes, it's not old to assimilate truly by marrying in over the course of generations.
[00:55:03]  Okay, so we need to talk about hyphenated um, just before you do, I said to some Mohammedans in the Middle East about this particular problem.
[00:55:10]  I was like, So, why you've got 52 Mohammedan nations around the world, you've got Sharia, you've got the Islamic law, why do you keep coming to our countries, right?
[00:55:18]  And they outright said, Because we get better benefits, we can make ourselves rich, you know, it's the capitalist um.
[00:55:25]  Entitlement that they're after.
[00:55:26]  They just want more of what we have.
[00:55:28]  It's not about their faith.
[00:55:29]  It's not about their ideology.
[00:55:31]  It's not about their values.
[00:55:32]  It's just about want and need.
[00:55:33]  It's greed.
[00:55:34]  We saw the video recently of the Mexican immigrant that says, We don't like to be here.
[00:55:39]  The only reason we're here is because there's more money and there's more opportunity, right?
[00:55:43]  She said this, just said the quiet thing out loud.
[00:55:46]  And so it is.
[00:55:47]  It's a form of national theft.
[00:55:48]  They're on our welfare systems.
[00:55:50]  And the other part of this conversation around assimilation needs to be the hyphenated Americanisms.
[00:55:57]  And so it's the, you know, Theodore Roosevelt talked about this and is great.
[00:56:02]  You should look up his quote on hyphenated Americanism.
[00:56:04]  But when he listed out, he's talking about Irish American and.
[00:56:08]  You know, French American and German American and English American.
[00:56:11]  No, we are American.
[00:56:12]  What's happened is that we've produced parallel ethnicities or parallel identities within a nation.
[00:56:19]  And this has caused another problem.
[00:56:21]  So let's just say you go to Korea.
[00:56:25]  And no, let's just say that you're a Korean and you go to France and you say, I'm a Korean man.
[00:56:30]  I want to become French.
[00:56:32]  I'm going to make the decision to change, to assimilate to France.
[00:56:36]  I'm not going to stay there and eat my cake.
[00:56:38]  The first thing that you should be told.
[00:56:40]  If that's the case, the first thing that you should be told is you will never be French.
[00:56:43]  Okay, so yes, let's just your great grandchildren can be if you let go of everything that has to do with you being Korean.
[00:56:53]  So, what I'm saying is, this is, I want to show the gravity of the decision.
[00:56:55]  Let's just say he goes, All right, I'm going to make change our lineage from Korean to French, but I'm going to move there.
[00:57:03]  And instead of marrying in to the French people, he now creates a Parallel identity and marries other Koreans.
[00:57:15]  Little Korea.
[00:57:16]  In Little Korea.
[00:57:17]  And that's why you have Chinatown.
[00:57:18]  That's why you have Little Korea.
[00:57:18]  That right there.
[00:57:19]  Like Little Chinatown or Little Italy or whatever.
[00:57:24]  We need the Christian prince to come and legally abolish all of it.
[00:57:28]  Yes.
[00:57:29]  Because it creates again.
[00:57:31]  These are rebel alliances and strongholds in a nation that seeks its fracturing and division.
[00:57:38]  And again, it functions to some degree in times of peace.
[00:57:42]  But as soon as you have times of conflict, you wonder where the loyalties lie.
[00:57:45]  It's exactly why in 1945, what happened when Pearl Harbor was bombed?
[00:57:49]  They rallied all the Japanese people because they didn't know where their loyalties lied.
[00:57:53]  What's happening right now with the Iranian war?
[00:57:55]  Well, now people are worried about the Iranian sleeper cells that are here that are now killing people in Austin and that are now stabbing people on trains.
[00:58:02]  And immigration is an ideal that works under only unique peacetime eras.
[00:58:09]  Right.
[00:58:09]  But the moment there's global conflict, everyone returns to their factories.
[00:58:13]  Correct.
[00:58:13]  Well, speaking of Christian princes, it was only last year that you guys got an official language of English.
[00:58:19]  Up until that point, you could have multiple languages.
[00:58:20]  In fact, I see signs everywhere in this country.
[00:58:22]  It's like English, then Spanish.
[00:58:24]  I'm like, what country am I in?
[00:58:25]  Even on our voting booths.

=== Pain Needed for Revival (03:05) ===

[00:58:27]  It's insane.
[00:58:27]  That's like, you know, a country's been conquered when in the voting booth, there are different languages.
[00:58:33]  We've got a similar thing with our tubes, our underground railway system.
[00:58:36]  We've got Bangladeshi signs in places now.
[00:58:40]  Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:58:41]  So there's a lot of work to be done.
[00:58:45]  But again, it's not rocket science.
[00:58:48]  I don't think that the problem is complexity.
[00:58:50]  The problem is political will.
[00:58:53]  Do we actually, people, it's funny.
[00:58:54]  I talk to Christians all the time and, like, we need revival so badly.
[00:58:58]  We need revival.
[00:58:58]  And I'm, you know, I'm here for it.
[00:59:00]  Like, Lord, please send revival.
[00:59:03]  But we need, you know, for God to send revival, we need hearts for revival.
[00:59:07]  But I feel like in this day and age, what's required is the stomachs for revival.
[00:59:13]  We don't have the will, we don't have the grit.
[00:59:15]  We're an apathetic people.
[00:59:16]  We've just discovered that all the conspiracy theories we've believed for the last hundred years are true.
[00:59:20]  That there's an elite Jewish cabal that are raping, murdering, and essentially eating babies.
[00:59:27]  Like, it's the most evil you can conceive of.
[00:59:29]  And we've found out that it's true.
[00:59:30]  And what are we doing?
[00:59:31]  We're sitting around having a chat about it.
[00:59:33]  Okay, right.
[00:59:33]  The vast majority of people in this country are like, that's disgusting.
[00:59:36]  Anyway, what's for lunch?
[00:59:37]  We're not angry enough at the evil in our world to fight against it.
[00:59:41]  Yeah, I believe this generation, I just released a video on X that was talking about this is that, you know, I said, you know, American men, your forefathers, you know, stuck foreign invaders on spikes.
[00:59:55]  We got in wars over a 3% increased tax on tea.
[00:59:58]  You know, we.
[00:59:59]  Now you're giving your taxes to pedophiles, quite literally.
[01:00:02]  Yeah.
[01:00:02]  And so we've had so much history of very little.
[01:00:06]  Instigation for massive reactions.
[01:00:10]  But today we are having little reaction to massive implications.
[01:00:15]  It's the young men are mad.
[01:00:18]  And people change when the pain of staying the same is more painful than the pain of just changing.
[01:00:24]  And so we're at this point where we need more pain.
[01:00:27]  And when young men can't marry because everyone's a feminist, when they can't have a job that gets paid well because of the economy with the immigrants, when they can't buy a home until they're 50 and they have a 50 year mortgage.
[01:00:39]  The young men start to get frustrated and they're starting to return to some of that factory setting.
[01:00:44]  And we're seeing that.
[01:00:45]  If you're age 30 and below, like our church, our church is basically 95% people under the age of 40.
[01:00:52]  And it's because we have a generation that's seen this pain and they're ready to respond, but they don't have quite the power yet.
[01:01:01]  Right.
[01:01:02]  That's our next conversation, I think, is what does it take to garner the will to change?
[01:01:10]  Right now, we have.
[01:01:12]  Some young men who are getting angry, and we have ministers promptly telling them to stop.
[01:01:19]  Whereas my concern as a minister is that the young men of our nation are not nearly angry enough.
[01:01:24]  Amen.
[01:01:25]  So let's talk about that in our next episode.
[01:01:28]  We hope that you've been blessed by this episode.
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