NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - Stop Purity Spiraling, Take The W (w/James Fishback)
Aired: 2026-02-16
Duration: 01:38:26


=== Christian Nationalism Rising (04:26) ===

[00:00:00]  It will be difficult and it will be painful, but I assure you it is possible.
[00:00:05]  Anglo-Saxon England.
[00:00:17]  The world is returning to nationalism.
[00:00:20]  Nature is healing.
[00:00:22]  Christian nationalism is winning.
[00:00:24]  The new Christian right is ascendant and it is inevitable.
[00:00:29]  And we are seeing this on an undeniable global stage.
[00:00:33]  But let me take a moment right here and tell you something important.
[00:00:38]  Do not be an insufferable purist about the victory that the Lord is giving us.
[00:00:44]  Do not take clear W's, dissect them into oblivion, and come up with some kind of conclusion.
[00:00:51]  That actually, this is really a loss.
[00:00:54]  Take the W. What did you think winning would look like?
[00:00:59]  What did you think victory, not in theory, but in practice, would actually look like?
[00:01:05]  I'll tell you what it looks like.
[00:01:07]  True victory, when a position, when a party, when a group, when a movement is truly ascendant, is truly rising, is truly winning, what it looks like is normies coming to the party five, ten years too late and pretending as though they've been there all along.
[00:01:25]  What it looks like is neocon opportunists who have never seen a single war in the Middle East fighting for Israel that they didn't absolutely love.
[00:01:34]  And then all of a sudden, on the world stage, giving speeches against propositional nationhood and a return to nature and the importance of lineage and land and Christian heritage.
[00:01:46]  It looks like that.
[00:01:48]  We may not like it.
[00:01:49]  In terms of the how, I have a lot of opinions of different hows that I wish maybe the Lord would have chosen.
[00:01:57]  But what's imperative is not how we went.
[00:01:59]  What's imperative is that we win.
[00:02:02]  My children are Christian.
[00:02:03]  On top of that, my children happen to be white.
[00:02:06]  If we don't win, my children and certainly my grandchildren have absolutely no hope of a future here in the West.
[00:02:15]  So I don't care who gets the credit.
[00:02:17]  I don't care how we win.
[00:02:19]  I care that we win.
[00:02:21]  Christian nationalists, listen to me.
[00:02:24]  Take the W. When the opportunists are coming and all of a sudden running out in front of the parade, pretending as though they themselves engineered it, That's how you know you're winning.
[00:02:35]  That's how you know you're ascendant.
[00:02:36]  Look to the Lord and praise Him for it.
[00:02:39]  Don't be the older brother in the parable of the prodigal son, that when the son who was wayward and stupid, a stupid, rebellious son, when he finally does come home, when he returns to the natural order, when he returns to the homeland, to his heritage, to his father, to the traditions of his father, don't be the older brother standing outside while a party.
[00:03:05]  Is going on, and you're out there gritting your teeth, angry because you were there first and because you were right all along.
[00:03:12]  Now, welcome the younger brother.
[00:03:15]  Have some suspicions, right?
[00:03:18]  Who gets to lead the parade?
[00:03:20]  That's a worthy discussion.
[00:03:21]  All right, you're new to the party.
[00:03:22]  We're glad you're here.
[00:03:24]  Maybe you don't get to be in charge, but at the same time, we really are glad you're here.
[00:03:30]  And however, the Lord chooses in His sovereignty to orchestrate this revival, this restoration of the Christian West.
[00:03:38]  If he doesn't, even if he doesn't do it the way that I personally would want, I'm just happy he's doing it.
[00:03:45]  We're going to be getting into Marco Rubio and his viral speech.
[00:03:49]  We're going to be getting into Hillary Clinton, of all people, saying, Yeah, I think maybe we went too far with immigration.
[00:03:55]  We're going to be getting into England and the rising of the Restore England New Political Party, the immense momentum that they have right now with the political will to finally, perhaps, do what is necessary.
[00:04:09]  To save their heritage and to save their native citizens.
[00:04:12]  God is doing something.
[00:04:14]  At the risk of being cliche, Aslan is on the move.
[00:04:18]  And if we are true Narnians, if we are true Christians, we should be celebrating.
[00:04:23]  Let's talk about it.
[00:04:24]  You are England.

=== The Restore England Party (05:27) ===

[00:04:26]  Each and every one of you.
[00:04:27]  England is you.
[00:04:29]  And it is the space between you.
[00:04:31]  Fight not for yourselves.
[00:04:33]  Fight for that space.
[00:04:35]  Fill that space.
[00:04:36]  Make it tissue.
[00:04:37]  Make it mass.
[00:04:38]  Make it impenetrable.
[00:04:40]  Make it yours.
[00:04:41]  Make it England.
[00:04:43]  Make it.
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[00:05:43]  Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webbin.
[00:05:46]  Joel Webbin.
[00:05:48]  Joel Webbin.
[00:05:49]  I want to talk about Joel Webbin.
[00:05:50]  Joel Webbin is an excellent.
[00:06:12]  Let's go.
[00:06:12]  We are live right now in the studio.
[00:06:15]  This is NXR Live.
[00:06:16]  I'm Pastor Joel Webbin.
[00:06:17]  I'm joined, as always, by my co hosts, Wesley Todd and Antonio Griffith.
[00:06:22]  But today we have the immense privilege of also being joined by special guest, James Fishback.
[00:06:28]  Welcome.
[00:06:29]  Great to be here, guys.
[00:06:30]  James, let our listeners, most of them probably already know, but for the three or four that haven't ever heard of you who live under a rock, go ahead, tell them who are you?
[00:06:41]  What are you doing?
[00:06:43]  Why is James Fishback ascendant?
[00:06:46]  Why do we know this name?
[00:06:47]  Well, I'm an unapologetic nationalist who's running to be the next governor of Florida, my state, a state that my family has known now for four generations.
[00:06:55]  I grew up there, lived there my entire life.
[00:06:58]  Sadly, Ron DeSantis is on his way out.
[00:07:00]  He's term limited.
[00:07:00]  So that means it's time for a real conservative to stand up and usher in a new chapter of power.
[00:07:08]  And I think this is really a race that's going to test two competing theories that are dueling right now in the Republican Party economic corporatism.
[00:07:16]  We are just a free trade area.
[00:07:18]  We are Dubai.
[00:07:19]  We are.
[00:07:19]  Hong Kong, or a real sense of economic nationalism that fights for our people, our birthright, our shared heritage and destiny.
[00:07:28]  That's what I'm running to do.
[00:07:30]  Been in the race 11 weeks today, Joel, and we are now second in the polls.
[00:07:34]  Congressman Donald's my opponent.
[00:07:36]  Some call him Byron, some call him H 1B, some even call him APAC Shakur.
[00:07:41]  And by some, I mean me.
[00:07:43]  I proudly made up all of those, but now people are saying them.
[00:07:47]  And he's at 37%.
[00:07:50]  And we are at 23%.
[00:07:52]  Praise God.
[00:07:53]  So, didn't you start at like 2%?
[00:07:54]  Started at 2%, and we're now at 23.
[00:07:57]  And now the media has the unmitigated gall and the unfettered audacity to say that we have only raised $950.
[00:08:03]  Joel, let me tell you first and foremost that is cap.
[00:08:06]  We did not raise $950.
[00:08:08]  We have now raised $942.
[00:08:10]  I went to In Out Burger on the way here.
[00:08:12]  And so, gosh, guys, if I actually went from 2% to 23% in 11 weeks with $950 bucks, people of Florida really should hire me to be their governor because.
[00:08:22]  We're going to really stretch the value of our dollar in Florida and be very frugal and cost efficient.
[00:08:27]  But it's been an incredible race.
[00:08:29]  I said that before Election Day, Joel, I was going to visit all 67 counties.
[00:08:33]  I'm already halfway there.
[00:08:35]  And so, really exciting stuff.
[00:08:37]  What I'm seeing on the ground is people, yes, are frustrated with the Democratic Party establishment, but they're also really pissed at Republicans.
[00:08:45]  Republicans who just whine, put out strongly worded letters.
[00:08:49]  There's no arrest, there's no accountability.
[00:08:51]  Our country is being auctioned off before our eyes.
[00:08:54]  And all Republicans can seem to do is go on Fox News and Make jokes about Kamala Harris or Barack Obama instead of actually fighting for the heritage and birthright of our nation.
[00:09:03]  Yep.
[00:09:03]  Amen.
[00:09:04]  Well said.
[00:09:05]  So let's get into it.
[00:09:07]  Right off the bat, like the two competing visions, right?
[00:09:10]  Byron Donalds has a very dark vision for the future of Florida.
[00:09:14]  Well, some would say the difference between Byron Donalds and me is black and white.
[00:09:18]  I mean, it's very stark when you think about it truly.
[00:09:21]  And I don't mean to jester max here, but at the end of the day, be very honest about what we're talking about.
[00:09:26]  Congressman Donalds stood before students at the University of Florida, the same university where students are going to.
[00:09:31]  Get great grades, get great test scores, apply to work at Deloitte, Accenture, Microsoft, Apple, and never get a call back because they're not cheap foreign slave labor known as Indians.
[00:09:43]  What did Byron Donald say to UF students in Gainesville two months ago?
[00:09:47]  He said, We have to keep the H 1B program because students are not economically viable.
[00:09:52]  Yeah.
[00:09:52]  That's crazy.

=== Legal Theft and Replacement (02:48) ===

[00:09:53]  So my view is very simple Americans get the jobs.
[00:09:57]  Yep.
[00:09:57]  End the H 1B scam, end the great replacement of American citizens through, yes, illegal means.
[00:10:03]  But I think for the longest time, Republicans.
[00:10:05]  The establishment has only focused on illegal immigration as fueling the great replacement.
[00:10:11]  Correct.
[00:10:11]  Doesn't matter what it is.
[00:10:12]  Mass migration is a sin, whether it is blessed by the neocon elites in Washington, D.C., or it's not.
[00:10:19]  If you replace us legally or illegally, it has to end.
[00:10:23]  And there's a lot you can do at the state level to end that.
[00:10:25]  Yeah, amen.
[00:10:26]  At the end of the day, we go by the book.
[00:10:28]  And the book is not just merely the Constitution.
[00:10:30]  I like the Constitution, but the book is the Word of God.
[00:10:35]  And the government calling something legal doesn't mean that all of a sudden it's moral.
[00:10:40]  So, when the government steals, even if they say, well, this is taxation and legal theft, it's still theft according to the word of God.
[00:10:48]  When the government orchestrates a nationwide replacement of its native citizens legally, it's still a replacement of its native citizens.
[00:10:57]  I think of Ephesians, it says, Fathers, do not exasperate your children.
[00:11:02]  Civil magistrates have been appointed through the mechanism of human agency in our democratic, republican, constitutional system.
[00:11:11]  But still, in the higher ultimate level, they've been appointed ultimately by God.
[00:11:15]  The means is through the people, but it's God ultimately doing this.
[00:11:19]  And they've been appointed as civil magistrates, ultimately serving in the role of civil fathers.
[00:11:25]  And civil fathers, whether it's familial fathers, whether it's ecclesiastical, spiritual fathers in the setting of the church, or whether it's civil fathers in the setting of politics and the nation, fathers, whatever kind of father you are, they are commanded by scripture not to exasperate their sons, like Pharaoh.
[00:11:43]  Talking to the Israelite slaves, saying bricks but no straw, right?
[00:11:48]  To be a civil father and to say, hey, you need to be an upstanding citizen.
[00:11:54]  You need to contribute to society.
[00:11:56]  You need to get married and have children and stimulate the economy and make purchases and own homes.
[00:12:03]  Bricks but no jobs.
[00:12:06]  You know, that's insane.
[00:12:09]  And it doesn't matter if it's legal immigration, right?
[00:12:12]  Legal theft is still theft.
[00:12:14]  Legal immigration is still.
[00:12:16]  Civil fathers orchestrating the immoral, heinous replacement of their own native sons.
[00:12:23]  And that is, in the sight of God, a very grievous thing.
[00:12:26]  And so, on that note, I wanted to just mention you know that you're on the winning side, you know you're on the right side of history, and that the Lord is behind you and that the Lord is with you when you have certain individuals changing their tune.

=== Bricks But No Jobs (15:00) ===

[00:12:41]  I mean, like 180 degrees turn, and not just, you know, D's Nuts Groyper 447, you know, in 4J.
[00:12:49]  446.
[00:12:50]  You know, whatever.
[00:12:51]  Put some respect on his name, Joel.
[00:12:53]  Yeah, my bad.
[00:12:55]  I apologize.
[00:12:56]  But when you have someone such as the richest man in the world, Elon Musk, $850 billion?
[00:13:02]  Yes.
[00:13:03]  And I think it's like 130 million followers on Twitter.
[00:13:06]  And you also happen to own Twitter.
[00:13:08]  When you have someone like Elon Musk, so think about this, right?
[00:13:12]  You've got Vivek Ramaswamy, who is like, you know, let's just, this is now an American.
[00:13:17]  Christmas tradition.
[00:13:17]  We're going to do it every year.
[00:13:19]  Every year around Christmas time, the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, we're going to look to native citizens in America and disparage them and give them a hard time and say that, you know, the fact that you were born here, the fact that you're fourth and fifth and sixth and tenth generation absolutely means nothing.
[00:13:36]  This is not your home.
[00:13:37]  This is not your heritage, right?
[00:13:39]  Vivek, you know, he continued the tradition.
[00:13:42]  Elon did not, right?
[00:13:43]  He was right there hand in hand, you know, working in tandem with Vivek two years ago.
[00:13:47]  But this last Christmas, Uh, Vivek continued the tradition.
[00:13:52]  Elon decided to opt out.
[00:13:54]  Elon is the guy, if you remember this, um, around Christmas time, not this last year, but the year prior, uh, Elon Musk talked about he likened America to a sports team, right?
[00:14:05]  That's already a bad start.
[00:14:07]  But he likened it to a sports team and said, America needs America first.
[00:14:11]  America needs to win.
[00:14:13]  It needs to win the championship.
[00:14:14]  It needs to win against all the other national sports teams on the global stage.
[00:14:19]  And what does that look like?
[00:14:20]  Well, it looks like just raw, unfettered capitalism.
[00:14:24]  It looks like making whatever trades we need, right?
[00:14:27]  You want to win a championship, you need the best players.
[00:14:29]  And so that means taking this American citizen, but you know what?
[00:14:33]  They're just not quite up to speed.
[00:14:36]  They're just not producing what we would want, or they're producing it.
[00:14:40]  They have the intellect, they have the skills, but they cost twice as much the company in terms of the bottom line, their pay, the salary, what they're willing to work for.
[00:14:50]  So we're going to switch them out with this H 1B visa, with this person from the other side of the world.
[00:14:54]  And that's the rhetoric.
[00:14:56]  I'm not being hyperbolic at all.
[00:14:58]  That is literally the rhetoric that Elon Musk was using just 15 months ago at this point.
[00:15:05]  And now you have Elon Musk coming out and saying, Maybe this is a helpful clarification.
[00:15:10]  I'm referring to bringing in, do you want to read this?
[00:15:12]  Last year, this is what he's saying.
[00:15:14]  That's what he said last year.
[00:15:16]  Go ahead and read that.
[00:15:17]  So, Elon Musk, December 26, 2024.
[00:15:20]  So, 13 months, barely even that.
[00:15:23]  Maybe this is a helpful clarification.
[00:15:24]  I'm referring to bringing in, via legal immigration, the top 0.1% of engineering talent as being essential for America to keep winning.
[00:15:31]  This is like bringing in the athletes of the world to help your whole team, which is mostly Americans, he made that clarification, win the NBA.
[00:15:38]  Thinking of America as a pro sports team that has been winning for a long time and wants to keep winning is the right mental construct.
[00:15:46]  Wants to keep winning.
[00:15:47]  We're a sports team.
[00:15:48]  We've been winning for a long time.
[00:15:50]  There might be a reason for that, but we need to keep winning.
[00:15:53]  And so we've got to bring in this talent here, the top 0.1%.
[00:15:56]  That's all it's going to be.
[00:15:57]  Just 10,000, just 20,000, just 30,000.
[00:16:00]  And with H1B visas, remember, this is skilled labor.
[00:16:03]  There is an 01 visa for highly skilled labor.
[00:16:06]  So people bring up Elon Musk.
[00:16:07]  He built Tesla here, he built SpaceX here.
[00:16:10]  Well, don't we want people like Elon Musk?
[00:16:11]  Of course.
[00:16:12]  And we have a visa called an 01 visa for incredibly talented individuals.
[00:16:16]  There are jobs for H 1B visas, $60,000 for pickleball coaches.
[00:16:21]  An American can't do that.
[00:16:22]  That's the skilled labor we're talking about.
[00:16:24]  And so just a year ago, here's him saying, We're like a sports team.
[00:16:27]  We've been winning a while, but we've got to bring other people in to keep winning.
[00:16:31]  And by the grace of God, what is he saying now?
[00:16:33]  Elon Musk, over the weekend, this was a bad weekend to go offline.
[00:16:36]  If you thought this was the weekend, I'm going to go camp out with a family, I'm going to get offline, I'm going to disconnect.
[00:16:40]  A lot happened this weekend.
[00:16:41]  We're going to get into it.
[00:16:42]  Here's a big one.
[00:16:43]  Elon Musk tweeting out 13 months after that terrible tweet that I just read, he said, This for a country to survive, there has to be a common culture.
[00:16:51]  Nobody dies to defend a multicultural economic zone.
[00:16:56]  I feel like I'm listening to an episode of our podcast from the last two years.
[00:17:00]  American culture, with its English, Scots, Irish origin, is great and worth fighting for.
[00:17:07]  Some may not realize it, but that is why people come here.
[00:17:10]  And he loads off a string of probably like 15 American flags.
[00:17:15]  What an about faith.
[00:17:16]  What a 180 degree turn.
[00:17:18]  Praise God.
[00:17:19]  And we can be purity spiraling, insufferable narcissists and say, well, wait a second.
[00:17:26]  Just 13 months ago, you said the opposite.
[00:17:28]  And we've been saying this longer than you've been saying that.
[00:17:31]  I'm not interested in that.
[00:17:32]  I have children.
[00:17:33]  My children are Christian.
[00:17:34]  My children also happen to be white.
[00:17:36]  I want them to be able to survive, to have a future, to have hope, to have possibilities.
[00:17:41]  And in order for that to occur, it doesn't matter so much how we win, it matters that.
[00:17:45]  We win.
[00:17:46]  So, the world's richest man who currently is a citizen in the United States, building monumental companies, hiring Americans for him to change his tune.
[00:17:55]  I can sit here and I can dissect and I can say, Well, you said this 13 months ago.
[00:18:00]  I don't care.
[00:18:01]  Here's the thing.
[00:18:02]  We're Christians.
[00:18:03]  We're supposed to have a doctrine, a framework for repentance.
[00:18:07]  Repentance means that someone changed their mind.
[00:18:10]  And that being said, that's why I was willing, when others were skeptical, right?
[00:18:15]  Humor a little full stalk here, bragging on myself for a moment.
[00:18:19]  I was willing to entertain and to investigate, right?
[00:18:22]  I wanted to be sure, so a holy suspicion added into the equation, but I'm not going just to write it off.
[00:18:29]  I'm going to investigate a young man.
[00:18:31]  Who people are saying, well, not that long ago, he said X, Y, and Z.
[00:18:36]  Well, wait a second.
[00:18:37]  I'm a Christian.
[00:18:37]  This guy claims to be a Christian, and he's not sitting here hiding his past.
[00:18:41]  He's not sitting here pretending that he engineered the parade or that he's been here all along.
[00:18:46]  He's sitting here saying, I thought this, many people did, and now I think that.
[00:18:51]  And it's because I've seen the clear writing on the wall, and I have resolve and determination to do what's right before God, before Floridians, before Americans.
[00:19:03]  And I think that James Fishback is that guy.
[00:19:05]  Can you?
[00:19:06]  I want to just cut to the chase.
[00:19:07]  We're going to talk about Marco Rubio.
[00:19:09]  We're going to talk about Hillary Clinton.
[00:19:10]  We have a lot to talk about.
[00:19:11]  But first, I just want to go ahead and get to the heart of it.
[00:19:14]  There are guys who are still skeptical of you.
[00:19:16]  Guys on the right saying, he's an op.
[00:19:20]  He's a plant.
[00:19:22]  But are we Christian or not?
[00:19:24]  Is repentance a thing or not?
[00:19:26]  For our listeners, for us, sell us on your transformation.
[00:19:30]  How did that happen and why is it genuine?
[00:19:33]  Well, to paraphrase Ernest Hemingway, it happened gradually and then suddenly.
[00:19:38]  And it happened because.
[00:19:40]  I did more research and I listened to people like you, Joel, and I got more information about the issues that were actually affecting us, Israel Chief among them.
[00:19:50]  But I was asked the other day by a supporter who was skeptical of the campaign.
[00:19:55]  He says, How do we know that we can trust you, James?
[00:19:58]  And I said, You don't.
[00:20:00]  And if I were in your shoes after everything that's happened, after all the backstabbing that's happened in the Republican Party over the last few years, I might be inclined not to trust me either.
[00:20:10]  And so, how about this?
[00:20:12]  Let me not tell you to trust me.
[00:20:14]  Let me show you between now and Election Day on August 18th, 2026, that when they try to push me this way, I stay firm.
[00:20:22]  Rabbi Shmuley attacked me yesterday.
[00:20:24]  He said, James, classic.
[00:20:25]  He said, James, why don't you just admit that you hate Jews?
[00:20:29]  Well, first off, as Christian men, we are never, never entitled to hate anyone.
[00:20:34]  We can hate sin in all of its disgraceful forms, but we are never called to disavow or hate our fellow man.
[00:20:41]  And what I very simply said to him was, I condemn all forms of religious hatred.
[00:20:46]  Against Jews, against Muslims, and especially against Christians, because it's anti Christian hate that has become systemic and codified in our institutions.
[00:20:55]  Correct.
[00:20:55]  Not just college and law school, elementary school has codified these forms of Christian hate.
[00:21:01]  And I also reminded him that I also condemned the fact that he and his daughter sell dildos on the internet.
[00:21:06]  Correct.
[00:21:06]  That is not very acceptable, moral, or upright.
[00:21:10]  Is that kosher?
[00:21:11]  That is not kosher, even though it is called kosher sex.
[00:21:13]  I think about, real quick, I think about the Apostle Paul when he came into Ephesus, the city of Ephesus.
[00:21:18]  His preaching of the gospel and the momentum of Christianity that was swelling.
[00:21:24]  There's all these conversions, and people are actually moving away from pagan, idolatrous worship to worship of the triune God.
[00:21:31]  And here's the thing that we sometimes neglect righteousness actually has, it doesn't just have spiritual impact, it doesn't just have cultural impact, it has an economic impact.
[00:21:41]  And so the enemies that Paul ultimately garnered for himself in Ephesus was not just.
[00:21:49]  The high religious priest for these pagan deities, right?
[00:21:52]  It wasn't just spiritual enemies.
[00:21:54]  It was economic enemies because there was an entire economy that was built on the premise of forging blacksmiths and sculptors and artists who were forging deities, idols, statues to these foreign pagan gods.
[00:22:10]  And their bottom line started to not look good, right?
[00:22:14]  Like they were getting less sales.
[00:22:16]  And all of a sudden, they were the ones who engineered the riots among the people, paying people off in order to try to attack the Apostle Paul.
[00:22:23]  And I think about that so often.
[00:22:25]  I think about what true revival would look like?
[00:22:28]  What would true righteousness look like with someone who's a politician, with someone like, for instance, who Lord willing becomes governor?
[00:22:36]  Who would be the people who would stand in the way, right?
[00:22:38]  Who are the people, let's say it another way, who stand the most to gain for this person not winning his political race?
[00:22:46]  And it's not just certain ethnic groups or religious groups, it is certain, it's billionaires, it's economic elites who are profiting.
[00:22:58]  Off of unorthodox, unethical means, they're the ones who will be the starkest opponents.
[00:23:05]  And so, somebody like a Rabbi Shmuley, it's not just a religious angle that he's coming from.
[00:23:11]  It's James Fishback may not be good for dildo sales.
[00:23:16]  This hurts the bottom line.
[00:23:17]  And that kind of gets into data centers.
[00:23:18]  Well, let me clear up any ambiguity.
[00:23:21]  Governor James Fishback would be terrible for dildo sales in Florida.
[00:23:25]  But the bigger issue, though, and if I can just go back to the sports team analogy, let's just take this to the nth degree.
[00:23:31]  You're a middle school flag football team in Broward County, Florida, where I grew up.
[00:23:36]  And your approach is well, we've won the state championship every year for the last decade.
[00:23:41]  We have to keep winning.
[00:23:42]  So let's let go of the white kids, let go of the black kids on our middle school flag football team, and let's bring in kids from Jamaica, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic.
[00:23:53]  Because winning at all costs is our North Star.
[00:23:56]  Let's not forget the words of you say Apostle Paul as a Catholic.
[00:24:00]  I'll say St. Paul.
[00:24:01]  That's fine.
[00:24:02]  I'll find out about that.
[00:24:02]  In 1 Timothy chapter 5, he reminds us.
[00:24:05]  That not taking care of our own and taking care of others makes us worse than the non believer, effectively an infidel.
[00:24:11]  And so there's a real angst right now in the country of who does this economic system, who does this nation really serve?
[00:24:19]  Is it serving GDP, the line going up, the stock market, the profit margins of some of the largest companies in the world?
[00:24:25]  Or is it actually supposed to serve the people who toiled, who built, who fought, who bled, who sacrificed for this nation?
[00:24:34]  And by the way, There's no right or wrong answer.
[00:24:37]  I mean, there is a right answer, but it's actually a values based debate.
[00:24:40]  And so I'll give you an example.
[00:24:42]  If we're having a debate about Medicaid for all, Medicare for all, or we're having a debate about hospital subsidies, there perhaps could be a right or wrong answer about what's going to have a larger net fiscal impact on the federal government.
[00:24:55]  There is truly a falsifiable answer.
[00:24:57]  This debate is very values based.
[00:25:00]  Do you think about the debate of international trade, for example, or the debate about the H 1B labor market filled with foreign nationals?
[00:25:06]  What Joel do you value more?
[00:25:08]  Do you value Blackstone, BlackRock, some of the largest companies, having very strong fourth quarter earnings?
[00:25:15]  Do you value economic competitiveness, this abstract term that's thrown in our face?
[00:25:20]  Or do you value every single American citizen, high school grad, being able to get a great paying job, using that money to put a down payment on a home, marry a God fearing woman, raise God fearing children, and then when it's all said and done, retiring with self respect and dignity?
[00:25:36]  You, and by the way, if you ask some of the billionaires who call Palm Beach home, They are completely disinterested in the latter choice.
[00:25:44]  By what date do I have to move to Florida to be eligible to vote?
[00:25:48]  That's how I feel.
[00:25:49]  July 20th.
[00:25:50]  July 20th.
[00:25:51]  Okay, that actually is an important question.
[00:25:53]  I'm being facetious, but there are legitimately people who might be considering moving.
[00:25:56]  Get there by July 12th.
[00:25:57]  If you're in Minneapolis, you have no choice.
[00:25:59]  Oh, you've got to move somewhere.
[00:26:01]  You've got to leave Minneapolis.
[00:26:02]  Texas is a good choice, but I mean, Florida, you need to be looking at property.
[00:26:06]  Texas has some change front.
[00:26:08]  I was born and raised here.
[00:26:09]  I moved to California.
[00:26:10]  I was the prodigal son.
[00:26:13]  I went there to plant a church, but I was foolish and naive in many ways.
[00:26:18]  And then by the time we had our third kid, my wife and I, it was like, I could clearly see the writing on the walls that we can't live here and have.
[00:26:25]  And have the values that we want to have.
[00:26:27]  So we moved back to Texas to be by both sides of the family.
[00:26:30]  It's been an immense blessing.
[00:26:32]  And I love Texas, but I'll just be honest for a moment.
[00:26:36]  Term limits, wish we had those.
[00:26:38]  I wish.
[00:26:39]  Governor Abbott, the best you can expect for Governor Abbott is six months after DeSantis makes a decision, he might copy him.
[00:26:48]  Which hopefully, when you become governor, he copies you.
[00:26:50]  Maybe Abbott will copy him.
[00:26:52]  We'll move the Overton window.
[00:26:54]  And so maybe the 50 50 chance that he copies us in Florida.
[00:26:57]  It will be to do something that no state has ever done, but we absolutely can do, which is okay, you're Accenture, you're Deloitte, you're Apple, you're Microsoft, you're FedEx, you're Amazon.
[00:27:07]  You want to hire people in Florida.
[00:27:09]  Well, if you have two applicants, one of whom went to Florida State University or FAMU, and the other one is an Indian H 1B from Mumbai, why do you hire the H 1B?
[00:27:17]  Not because they're smarter, not because they're better, but because they're cheaper.
[00:27:21]  So if you're going to hire the H 1B for $50,000, but that pesky American citizen who wants paid time off and wants to go to church on Sunday, that pesky individual, they They are going to get 80 grand.
[00:27:32]  What we are going to institute in year one, if I'm hired as Florida governor, is we're going to totally make the H 1B system cost neutral.
[00:27:39]  So the 50 grand is going to come with a $30,000 fine.

=== Hiring Locals Over H1B Workers (07:03) ===

[00:27:42]  So now you're that hiring manager at Amazon or FedEx choosing between an FSU or UF grad and an Indian H 1B.
[00:27:50]  And they're both the same price.
[00:27:52]  Who do you choose, Joel?
[00:27:53]  You choose the American.
[00:27:54]  You choose the American.
[00:27:55]  Who, by the way, think about it.
[00:27:56]  The moral argument, the ethical argument, the fairness argument.
[00:27:59]  How about this?
[00:28:00]  The person who's from the state.
[00:28:02]  Who speaks the language, who has skin in the game, where if this whole thing hits the fan, they will have the most to lose.
[00:28:11]  That's the person you want to hire.
[00:28:13]  I want to hire the person who knows the back roads of Alachua County or Leon County.
[00:28:18]  I want to know the person who went to high school football games, who knows this community.
[00:28:22]  And if this company fails or if this company does wrong by its neighbors, we'll pay the price.
[00:28:29]  You'll become the laughing stock.
[00:28:30]  Whereas if you're an Indian H 1B and you screw up, Back to Calcutta, you go back into the Ganges, you go to take a bath.
[00:28:37]  I don't know.
[00:28:37]  I actually think you probably end up dirtier after the Ganges than you do going in.
[00:28:41]  And people will say, Well, that's xenophobic.
[00:28:43]  No, it's a fact.
[00:28:44]  And the idea of labeling people these ad hominem attacks, we're done with it.
[00:28:50]  We're absolutely done with it.
[00:28:52]  We have a choice.
[00:28:53]  And what Byron Donald has done time and again is he's attacked our campaign and our supporters as racist.
[00:28:59]  We are racists for not wanting to turn Florida into a section.
[00:29:04]  A ghetto.
[00:29:05]  I don't care who you are, black or white.
[00:29:07]  You shouldn't be living in a Section 8 ghetto.
[00:29:09]  You shouldn't be living next to the next George Floyd.
[00:29:11]  You shouldn't be living next to gangbangers and drug dealers.
[00:29:14]  Have some dignity, have some self respect.
[00:29:16]  Let's get you a great paying job.
[00:29:18]  It's not going to be easy.
[00:29:19]  You're going to have to work, but we're going to get you off of welfare.
[00:29:21]  We're going to get you a good job because you are my brother in Christ.
[00:29:25]  You are my sister in Christ.
[00:29:27]  And as my grandmother always said, we're in this together and none of us will make it out alive.
[00:29:31]  We'll make it to the next world, Lord willing, but this world, none of us make it out alive.
[00:29:36]  Well said.
[00:29:36]  And I would just add to the H1B conversation.
[00:29:39]  Another thing a lot of people don't even consider is that when you have an H1B employee, they're actually not technically at will.
[00:29:45]  What's happening is the employer's sponsoring that employee.
[00:29:48]  And so they actually can't, they don't have the freedom like an American citizen to say, I want to leave.
[00:29:53]  I want to work somewhere else.
[00:29:54]  I don't like the conditions.
[00:29:55]  I don't like the pay, so on and so forth.
[00:29:56]  I'm kind of trapped here because you're my sponsor and you're the only reason I'm allowed to be in the country.
[00:30:01]  And so that's a good point.
[00:30:01]  But I also liked what you said, James, going back to the conversation about this framing of sports teams and nationalism and economic prosperity and what would that look like.
[00:30:10]  I think one common thread that you see in that conversation has to do with, I guess, this concept that.
[00:30:17]  We actually don't have the talent in America.
[00:30:19]  And obviously, Trump had got a ton of backlash when he said this.
[00:30:24]  But that's the kind of presupposition.
[00:30:25]  It's actually that the talent out there is actually better than the talent in America, here in America.
[00:30:31]  And to go even beyond that, what you could also say is that the presupposition is that we haven't made deliberate policy decisions that have led, for example, to the detriment of our universities, or for example, taking international students and replacing a slot that an American could have at a university like Harvard or Yale with an international student.
[00:30:50]  Depriving them of that prime education and then putting them out in the workforce as a suitable employee.
[00:30:56]  And so, all of this conversation as it relates to immigration and relates to economic prosperity, it comes down to this deliberate policy decision over the last 50 years of globalism.
[00:31:07]  And I actually want to go to a clip because Marco Rubio spoke at the Munich conference on Saturday.
[00:31:12]  And it was a tweet that went viral, or a clip at least, I know for sure went viral.
[00:31:17]  I think JD Vance reposted it.
[00:31:18]  It had 101,000 likes the last time I took a look this morning.
[00:31:21]  So it went mega viral, and it's basically Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, speaking to all of these technocrats and bureaucrats of Europe.
[00:31:29]  And everyone's sort of on the edge of their seat because they're thinking, well, Trump has been really anti European Union.
[00:31:35]  He's been very anti NATO.
[00:31:37]  And Marco Rubio is going to step to the stage and he's going to give a speech, and we're going to show a couple clips of that speech.
[00:31:41]  And everyone's thinking, okay, what's he going to say?
[00:31:43]  Is he going to be hawkish toward China?
[00:31:44]  Is he going to be hawkish on Ukraine?
[00:31:46]  Hawkish toward Europe?
[00:31:47]  And he actually strikes a different tone.
[00:31:49]  It was a surprising tone, I think, for a lot of people, it was a warming tone.
[00:31:52]  Of commonality in Europe and talking about the shared Christian heritage, but also while saying those things, denying the concepts of globalism, the economic concepts, the consequences of globalism as it relates to immigration.
[00:32:05]  So let's go to that clip and then we'll come back and talk about it.
[00:32:09]  And this is the place where the vaulted ceilings of the Sistine Chapel and the towering spires of the great cathedral in Cologne testify not just to the greatness of our past or to a faith in God that inspired these marvels, they foreshadow the wonders that await us in our future.
[00:32:23]  But only if we are unapologetic in our heritage and proud of this common inheritance can we together begin the work of envisioning and shaping our economic and our political future.
[00:32:31]  Deindustrialization was not inevitable.
[00:32:34]  It was a conscious policy choice, a decades-long economic undertaking that stripped our nations of their wealth, of their productive capacity, and of their independence.
[00:32:41]  And the loss of our supply chain sovereignty was not a function of a prosperous and healthy system of global trade.
[00:32:44]  It was foolish.
[00:32:45]  It was a foolish but voluntary transformation of our economy that left us dependent on others for our needs and dangerously vulnerable to crisis.
[00:32:52]  Mass migration is not, was not, is some fringe concern of little consequence.
[00:32:56]  It was and continues to be a crisis which is transforming and destabilizing societies all across the West.
[00:33:01]  We want allies who are proud of their culture and of their heritage, who understand that we are heirs to the same great and noble civilization, and who, together with us, are willing and able to defend it.
[00:33:10]  And this is why we do not want allies to rationalize the broken status quo rather than reckon with what is necessary to fix it.
[00:33:16]  For we in America have no interest in being polite and orderly caretakers of the West's managed decline.
[00:33:21]  Because for us Americans, our home may be in the Western Hemisphere, but we will always be a child of Europe.
[00:33:34]  Our story began with an Italian explorer whose adventure into the great unknown to discover a new world brought Christianity to the Americas and became the legend that defined the imagination of our pioneer nation.
[00:33:44]  Our first colonies were built by English settlers to whom we owe not just the language we speak, but the whole of our political and legal system.
[00:33:50]  Our frontiers were shaped by Scots-Irish, that proud, hardy clan from the hills of Ulster that gave us Davy Crockett and Mark Twain and Teddy Roosevelt and Neil Armstrong.
[00:33:58]  Our great Midwestern heartland was built by German farmers and craftsmen who transformed empty plains into a global agricultural powerhouse.
[00:34:05]  And by the way, dramatically upgraded the quality of American beer.
[00:34:10]  Our expansion into the interior followed the footsteps of French fur traders and explorers, whose names, by the way, still adorn the street signs and town names all across the Mississippi Valley.
[00:34:18]  Our horses, our ranches, our rodeos, the entire romance of the cowboy archetype that became synonymous with the American West, these were born in Spain.
[00:34:26]  And our largest and most iconic city was named New Amsterdam before it was named New York.
[00:34:32]  All right, there's a lot that could be said, but this is the big takeaway.
[00:34:36]  And you'll just have to humor me for a moment.
[00:34:38]  I am a local pastor, and so this would probably be something that you could label as a pastoral point.

=== Pastoral Points on History (07:41) ===

[00:34:46]  When I look at that and knowing a little bit about Marco Rubio and his past and his voting trajectory, the things and policies and wars in his case that he has supported, yeah, I'm suspicious.
[00:35:02]  And I think it's right to be suspicious.
[00:35:05]  Winning does not require naivety, right?
[00:35:08]  So we're not advocating for a lack of discernment.
[00:35:12]  It's incumbent upon Christians that we exercise godly discernment.
[00:35:17]  And yet, at the same time, it's also incumbent upon Christians that we also recognize that people change, that repentance is possible.
[00:35:26]  So, when I look at Marco Rubio, I think what a lot of our listeners probably think this dude has never seen a war in the Middle East fighting for Israel that he did not absolutely love, that he did not cherish, right?
[00:35:41]  This is a guy who.
[00:35:43]  Who has been a lifelong, in terms of his political adult office, a neocon in virtually every single respect.
[00:35:53]  And so you can look at that and say, it's a psyop, it's a plant.
[00:35:56]  And those things could be true.
[00:35:58]  And the reality is, just like James said earlier, it's like, how do you know that you can trust someone?
[00:36:03]  Well, you don't know.
[00:36:04]  Time will tell.
[00:36:05]  You have to simply watch and watch with discernment and see what the Lord does, what he reveals, if someone is true or if someone is.
[00:36:15]  False.
[00:36:16]  But in the case of a Marco Rubio, I'm not saying that, hey, everybody, we should vote for him and make him president tomorrow.
[00:36:23]  I'm not saying that.
[00:36:25]  Give it some time.
[00:36:26]  Let him cook.
[00:36:27]  Exercise discernment.
[00:36:29]  There needs to be more things, not just one speech where a clip happens to go viral.
[00:36:33]  There needs to be longevity.
[00:36:35]  There needs to be a track record.
[00:36:37]  But as Christians, do we believe that a track record could actually be set?
[00:36:41]  Because here's the deal in better times, in moments of the high water mark of Christendom, in times past, Where certain things from the cradle were assumed, certain virtues, certain principles, then you could look at someone in the 1800s, and if they had, they were 35, 40, 45 years old, and had a lifelong track record of being duplicitous and doing things that did not meet the interest of your Christian nation, but served globalist interests, then you could just write them off and be done.
[00:37:10]  That's not the time that we live in.
[00:37:11]  The sons of Issachar were commended by God because they knew the times and they knew what Israel ought to do.
[00:37:17]  Here's the times.
[00:37:18]  Let me make it abundantly clear without mincing any words.
[00:37:21]  The times are we are coming off of 80 years minimum of everyone being deceived, everyone being hoodwinked, everyone being blind, blind to certain economic realities, blind to nature, blind to spiritual principles and realities.
[00:37:41]  So there is no winning scenario that does not include people who in their past were wrong, but by God's grace in their present, Are repentant.
[00:37:52]  There is no scenario.
[00:37:53]  Like, if you want, like, I'm only going to support people who've been right all along.
[00:37:59]  Okay, great.
[00:38:00]  You can support all three of them, right?
[00:38:03]  Like, I mean, seriously.
[00:38:04]  If you know their names.
[00:38:05]  If you know their names.
[00:38:06]  Look at the lay of the land.
[00:38:08]  Like, let's just be honest for a moment.
[00:38:10]  Who, who I like, okay, Pat Buchanan, right?
[00:38:13]  God bless him.
[00:38:14]  On economics, maybe Ron Paul, you know, but I like Ron Paul, but he, you know, he's a libertarian, you know, so he'd be terrible on some other things.
[00:38:22]  Economics, he'd be great.
[00:38:24]  But all right, Ron Paul.
[00:38:25]  And Pat Buchanan.
[00:38:27]  Okay, but there are like 50 states that need governors.
[00:38:31]  You know, there's two guys.
[00:38:34]  What are we going to do?
[00:38:34]  We have to include it when the whole nation, when the entire West has been off the rails, derailed over the course of a century or more, when everyone has been deceived, when everyone has been duped, when everyone has failed, then the only way, the only way that you write the ship is you have to include a framework that allows.
[00:38:57]  For wayward sons to come home.
[00:39:00]  Marco Rubio, is he one of those guys?
[00:39:02]  The verdict's still out.
[00:39:02]  Remains to be seen.
[00:39:03]  It remains to be seen.
[00:39:04]  But we can separate the message of Secretary Rubio's speech from the person.
[00:39:09]  The speech was excellent.
[00:39:10]  It was excellent.
[00:39:11]  Whether he backs it up with substantive action.
[00:39:14]  So, for example, if Marco Rubio is opposed to mass migration, as he eloquently articulated in that speech, but continues to push for the H 1B program, H 2A visas, asylum, all of that, that is not going to be consistent with those beautiful words.
[00:39:30]  Great speech, great message.
[00:39:32]  We can also look at Barack Obama's speech in 2004 at the Democrat convention and say, gosh, that was a good message.
[00:39:37]  He was a total snake, right?
[00:39:38]  But at the end of the day, I think we shouldn't overthink these things either.
[00:39:43]  2028 is a long time away.
[00:39:46]  It doesn't look like JD Vance is going to be the nominee, honestly.
[00:39:49]  I think Rubio has a better shot.
[00:39:51]  This is the difference between who should be versus who will be, right?
[00:39:55]  And we can have a debate about who should be, but Rubio looks really good on who will be the nominee.
[00:40:01]  If we're just Impartial betting men.
[00:40:04]  And we're saying, I don't think JD Vance could have delivered that speech.
[00:40:07]  JD Vance has very little charisma.
[00:40:09]  Marco Rubio has a beautiful family.
[00:40:11]  He's very charismatic.
[00:40:12]  He's gotten funny over the last couple of years.
[00:40:14]  That is not to agree with him on any of the foreign policy stuff, which I vehemently disagree with him on.
[00:40:20]  But that particular speech in Munich was spot on.
[00:40:24]  I have a real appreciation for someone, Joel, who can deliver extremely nationalist talking points in this folksy demeanor that 80 to 90% of people would agree with.
[00:40:36]  Marco Rubio, we would have been clamoring four or five years ago for anyone to say that on the world stage.
[00:40:41]  Now we have it.
[00:40:42]  Perhaps not the perfect vessel, and perhaps a deeply imperfect vessel at times, given his support for our Middle Eastern escapades of the last 20 years.
[00:40:50]  But at the end of the day, take a win for a win, and let's see if he is going to back that up.
[00:40:57]  Right.
[00:40:57]  Yeah.
[00:40:58]  Well said.
[00:40:58]  I was going to say that's the point.
[00:41:00]  It's that regardless of whether or not he did this as a political sort of opportunity to.
[00:41:08]  I guess, make people happy in the US.
[00:41:10]  There's particularly.
[00:41:10]  Throw out some red meat to the nationalist base.
[00:41:12]  Regardless of whether or not that was his intent, what we do know is that it went super viral, maybe perhaps in a way that they didn't even understand that it would, because, I mean, who's paying attention to the Munich conference that's been going on for like 70 years and nobody's watching those speeches?
[00:41:24]  And then, two, it got a standing ovation from a bunch of technocrats and bureaucrats in Europe.
[00:41:28]  In Europe.
[00:41:29]  Yeah.
[00:41:30]  So, gosh, think about it.
[00:41:31]  Ruby, maybe the really interesting way to frame this is that that is extremely appealing to unapologetic nationalists here in the United States, but it's also appealing to the Mario Draghi's of the world, the Christine Lagarde's who were in the audience applauding that.
[00:41:46]  If Marco Rubio, I'm not saying he is, but if he's the guy who can thread the needle to actually get Europe to reassert sovereignty while also not neglecting the fact that we do have a shared heritage, right?
[00:41:57]  We are heirs to the same Western civilization, which is fundamentally and unwaveringly Christian in its identity.
[00:42:05]  There's truth behind that, right?
[00:42:06]  I wish well to my brothers and sisters in Spain and in Germany.
[00:42:10]  We share this Christian heritage, but we each have our own distinct sovereignty.
[00:42:13]  We have our own borders.
[00:42:14]  We don't want to be fighting wars for them, and we don't want them to fight wars for us.
[00:42:18]  It's not controversial.
[00:42:18]  Yeah, and perhaps the Key line was I think at one point he says, if we have to, we will go alone.
[00:42:23]  We America will go alone, but we prefer that we don't.

=== Reasserting Western Sovereignty (02:36) ===

[00:42:27]  Correct, yeah, that was well said.
[00:42:28]  All right, uh, real quick.
[00:42:30]  So I'm rocking this right now.
[00:42:32]  Uh, this is the little pick me up.
[00:42:33]  Uh, this is Nick Nack, and I just want to brag on them for a moment.
[00:42:37]  Um, they have been an incredible sponsor, uh, supporting the new Christian right.
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[00:44:54]  Well, we heard from Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, Elon Musk, richest man in the world.
[00:44:58]  Also, a clip, you'll probably have seen it on the internet.
[00:45:00]  Hillary Clinton saying, with mass migration, we went too far.

=== Britain Is A People (15:59) ===

[00:45:04]  But let's go over to Britain with one of the most exciting political developments, I think, in decades.
[00:45:08]  If any of you recall, about a couple years ago, Nigel Farage formed the Reform Party in Britain.
[00:45:14]  Now, Britain's not like America, where you have a two party system, and basically that means you have two reasonable choices of who to caucus with.
[00:45:20]  In Britain, you have a number of different parties, and they share power and ultimately form majority governments.
[00:45:25]  So, Reform Party, it didn't really deliver on its promises.
[00:45:28]  But we're going to play for you a seven minute ad from Rupert Lowe.
[00:45:31]  He's been an MP since 2024 in Britain, and he is saying, same thing as Marco Rubio, same thing as Elon Musk.
[00:45:38]  Exactly the type of things that we have been saying.
[00:45:40]  And we're going to get to the incredible response to this the views, the support, the numbers, the polling, saying everything that we've been saying here for two years.
[00:45:50]  Let's play this ad now for the Restore Britain Party.
[00:46:00]  I have chosen to speak to you today from the farm because places like this represent what proper Britain is about.
[00:46:09]  Hard work, responsibility, effort, duty, stewardship.
[00:46:15]  This is the England I know and this is the England that I love.
[00:46:20]  On a farm, you don't think in election cycles or headlines or polling.
[00:46:25]  You think in seasons, you think in generations, in what you leave behind to those who come after you.
[00:46:32]  And that's why, here on the farm, I am now launching Restore Britain as a national political party.
[00:46:39]  I'm now going to dedicate my life to finding, organising, funding, and providing hundreds of qualified candidates to present to the British people at the next general election.
[00:46:51]  This process has already started, with invitations being issued to patriots in aligned political parties Reform, the Conservatives, the SDP, Advance, and more.
[00:47:04]  In local politics, we will work in partnership.
[00:47:06]  With localised political parties such as Great Yarmouth First that have the best interests of their residents at heart, combining our forces at the next general election.
[00:47:18]  The men and women standing for Restore in that election will not be politicians, I promise you that.
[00:47:24]  They will not be failed ministers, they will not be tainted by failures of the past.
[00:47:29]  They will be from business, from the military, from science, from medicine, from education, from industry, representing real communities up and down the country.
[00:47:42]  Every single one will be from well outside the existing political establishment, and every single one will understand the difficult decisions that need to be taken.
[00:47:53]  Because there are no easy fixes.
[00:47:55]  I'm not going to tell you comforting lies about the condition of our country.
[00:47:59]  I have only ever been honest with the British people, and I will be straight with you now.
[00:48:05]  What is necessary will be incredibly painful.
[00:48:09]  But for the first time in a very long time, voters will have a genuine alternative which is truthful.
[00:48:15]  With them about the scale of what now has to be done.
[00:48:18]  The first priority is to control who comes to our country and, more importantly, who stays in our country.
[00:48:26]  Restore Britain will not just stop mass immigration, we will reverse it.
[00:48:31]  Every single illegal migrant will be securely detained and then deported.
[00:48:38]  The message will be unrelenting.
[00:48:41]  If you are in this country without our permission, you will be removed.
[00:48:46]  For the foreseeable future, Far more people must leave Britain than arrive.
[00:48:52]  If a foreign national is unable to speak English, lives in social housing, claims benefits, refuses to work, fails to integrate, commits crime, or even actively hates our way of life and wishes to do us harm, then they must leave or be made to leave.
[00:49:13]  Restore Britain will make our communities safe again for women and children.
[00:49:18]  That, I promise.
[00:49:20]  If that means millions go, then millions go.
[00:49:24]  We're constantly told that the economy needs vast swathes of low skilled migrants.
[00:49:31]  We know that's simply not true.
[00:49:33]  What we need is to get millions of healthy Brits back into work.
[00:49:38]  A radical overhaul of how welfare is delivered, protecting those in genuine need, but not funding healthy shirkers to live off the back of hard working men and women.
[00:49:51]  If you can work, you must work.
[00:49:54]  It really is that simple.
[00:49:56]  Restore Britain will be abundantly clear.
[00:49:59]  If you consistently refuse work, then you will lose your benefits.
[00:50:05]  We will punish indolence, and more importantly, we will reward success.
[00:50:10]  We will provide vast economic incentives for men and women to start businesses, generate opportunities, build wealth, and create self sufficient families.
[00:50:21]  Standing here today on the farm, I know exactly what it means to deal with energy bills, labour shortages, regulation.
[00:50:29]  Unproductive paperwork, planning restrictions, tax, and endless uncertainty.
[00:50:35]  The state has definitively become the enemy of the people.
[00:50:40]  Restore Britain will burn away suffocating taxes on work and enterprise.
[00:50:46]  We will slash unnecessary regulation.
[00:50:49]  We will dismantle bloated quangos and the overbearing HR culture.
[00:50:54]  We must crush parasitic Britain.
[00:50:58]  We will restore long term, stable, logical policy.
[00:51:01]  So that businesses can plan and invest and grow again.
[00:51:06]  But Restore Britain is about much more than numbers on a spreadsheet.
[00:51:10]  It's about who we are as a nation and who we are as a people.
[00:51:15]  Britain is not just an economy.
[00:51:17]  Britain is not just an idea.
[00:51:20]  Britain is not just a passport.
[00:51:23]  Britain is a nation.
[00:51:25]  Britain is a people, our people.
[00:51:27]  And Restore Britain will never allow that to be erased.
[00:51:31]  We will celebrate our Christian heritage.
[00:51:33]  And the identity that built and shaped this country.
[00:51:36]  Responsibility, restraint, forgiveness, duty, and fairness.
[00:51:42]  In short, a high trust society.
[00:51:44]  That will mean defending our culture.
[00:51:47]  That will mean resisting the relentless creep of radical Islam.
[00:51:52]  That will mean banning the burqa, outlawing Sharia law, blocking cousin marriages, and reimposing our Christian based rule of law.
[00:52:02]  A Restore Britain government would legislate to ensure.
[00:52:06]  That no halal or kosher slaughter on British soil.
[00:52:09]  This is Britain and we will do things our way.
[00:52:14]  This political party now exists for one reason to restore Britain.
[00:52:19]  To make it a better, safer, and more prosperous place for British men and women to raise their families.
[00:52:26]  It will be difficult and it will be painful, but I assure you it is possible.
[00:52:35]  I hope you will consider joining me on this journey.
[00:52:38]  And becoming a member of our party.
[00:52:42]  It is our country, it is now our collective responsibility to act.
[00:52:48]  Together, we will restore Britain.
[00:52:52]  Thank you.
[00:53:02]  Well, that was an incredible video, but what has the response been to it?
[00:53:06]  35 million views on X.
[00:53:09]  And this is what's even more exciting.
[00:53:10]  So, in the UK, different parties have members of them that pay a certain amount of money to vote not just for the party in the primary, maybe like you would have the Republican Party here, but to vote on the party platform.
[00:53:21]  Restore Britain Party has accrued over 50,000 members just in the first 48 hours.
[00:53:27]  Conservative, Labour, and other parties that have been around for decades hover between 100,000.
[00:53:32]  To 200,000.
[00:53:33]  So, in the first 48 hours, his message has resonated so thoroughly that they've jumped to 50,000 members, half a fourth of some of the most popular parties in Britain today.
[00:53:45]  Additionally, they're polling, you're able to get much more instant straw polls because politicians switch parties.
[00:53:50]  I'm going to labor or I'm going to caucus with this group, I'm going to caucus with that group, already polling at 10%.
[00:53:54]  Nigel Farage's reform party took three years to get to that point.
[00:54:00]  Three years, his rhetoric, the kind of libertarian, soft on immigration rhetoric, They took three years to get to the point where they're polling 10%.
[00:54:08]  Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain party, within 48 hours, polling over 10%.
[00:54:13]  50,000 members retweeted by Elon Musk, viewed 35 million times.
[00:54:18]  Listen to him repeat all the things that we've been saying.
[00:54:21]  The state has become an enemy of the people.
[00:54:23]  We must use the force of law.
[00:54:25]  We're banning burqas.
[00:54:26]  We're banning Sharia law.
[00:54:28]  We're banning halal and kosher slaughter practices.
[00:54:30]  Dude, just real quick, break that down.
[00:54:33]  So it's like, okay, we're banning some of these Islamic practices, but also.
[00:54:36]  But also, so kosher law to.
[00:54:39]  Prepare food and specifically meat that's kosher.
[00:54:41]  Because remember, Orthodox Jews would only eat foods, all foods that are prepared kosher.
[00:54:46]  So, this is your pork, this is other things that they can't eat.
[00:54:48]  To prepare a kosher animal, the animal cannot be pre stunned.
[00:54:51]  You have to use a very long knife to slit the throat.
[00:54:54]  And by not being allowed to pre stun it, according to Orthodox Judaism, you essentially have to ensure the animal suffers to a greater degree.
[00:55:02]  So, both halal and kosher preparation are much more cruel to the animal.
[00:55:07]  And it's specifically a European thing to say, hey, here's a thing that doesn't matter for us.
[00:55:10]  It doesn't matter for human beings whether they stun an animal, whether they sedate it so it goes peacefully enjoying its life.
[00:55:16]  But we still think there's something to be said for preserving the animal, for not stressing it out, for minimizing the pain as much as possible, even when we have to slaughter it.
[00:55:25]  And you heard Rupert Lowe say, and these practices, which are barbaric, they're not European, they're not British, they're not from our past, we're getting rid of those.
[00:55:32]  We're getting rid of burqas.
[00:55:34]  England will be Christian again.
[00:55:36]  And the response to it has been overwhelmingly affirmative.
[00:55:39]  It's incredible.
[00:55:42]  It really is.
[00:55:42]  I actually met with Rupert Lowe when I was in London last January.
[00:55:46]  He's a very impressive guy, very down to earth.
[00:55:48]  He's a farmer.
[00:55:50]  He's really struck a chord here.
[00:55:52]  Great video, worth the 35 million views.
[00:55:56]  But what struck me was what he named the party Restore Britain.
[00:56:02]  Joel, let's stop calling ourselves conservatives.
[00:56:05]  Right.
[00:56:05]  What are we conserving?
[00:56:07]  The left's victories from 15 minutes ago.
[00:56:09]  Right.
[00:56:09]  And I'm tired of it.
[00:56:10]  What are we conserving?
[00:56:11]  Mass migration.
[00:56:13]  The fact that we're auctioning off our country, the fact that a young couple can't buy a home without competing with Blackstone or a foreign national for a single family home in their birthright.
[00:56:22]  So, as conservatives, at least for the time being, there's nothing for us to conserve.
[00:56:28]  The verb we have to focus on is restore.
[00:56:33]  Let's restore the country that my father and grandfather and great grandfather knew.
[00:56:39]  Let's restore the country, Joel, whereas a 30 year old, You can be married and own a home, where you can have a great paying job right out of high school, where you don't have to compete with foreign nationals to get basic resources.
[00:56:54]  That's what we should be focused on.
[00:56:55]  And so conservative, restorative, conservative, restorative.
[00:56:59]  Before we can conserve, we have to restore the nation that was bequeathed to us by our founding fathers and our ancestors.
[00:57:07]  And it's a very interesting choice.
[00:57:08]  And I'll tell you, Rupert Murdoch, no, Rupert Lowe, hold on.
[00:57:11]  Whoa.
[00:57:14]  Whoa.
[00:57:15]  That's the sleep deprivation.
[00:57:17]  That's crossing a time zone to come here.
[00:57:19]  Rupert Lowe, he's a very, if he's anything, he's very thoughtful.
[00:57:24]  And he and I have stayed in touch.
[00:57:26]  And I congratulated him on this incredible victory of the last 48 hours.
[00:57:30]  But restore is the verb that we need to be using as conservatives, as nationalists, and yes, as Christians, because there's nothing that we can conserve as a Christian nation right now with a lot of the demonic, satanic forces that are festering underneath, that are boiling to the surface.
[00:57:49]  And so I'm going to take a cue, if I may, from my friends over across the pond from Rupert and say, let's restore this country.
[00:57:58]  And then once we've built it back, Once we've refounded it, then you can keep it.
[00:58:02]  Then we'll keep it.
[00:58:03]  Right.
[00:58:04]  Right.
[00:58:04]  Then we'll keep it.
[00:58:05]  But right now, we don't have anything worth conserving.
[00:58:07]  Amen.
[00:58:08]  That's like going into a strip club, right?
[00:58:11]  Where a church once stood and said, I want to conserve.
[00:58:14]  Well, sir, there's a man eating chicken wings and a stripper on the pole.
[00:58:17]  What do you want to conserve?
[00:58:19]  Well, a church once stood here where I grew up.
[00:58:21]  No, no, you can't conserve the status quo because the status quo is demonic, degenerate filth.
[00:58:28]  Right.
[00:58:29]  Restore the church.
[00:58:31]  Then conserve it.
[00:58:33]  Yeah, very, very well said.
[00:58:35]  On that note, I was thinking the other day, there's a fantastic quote by Charles Spurgeon, and Charles Spurgeon was a famous Protestant preacher.
[00:58:42]  You have to humor me, James.
[00:58:43]  From Britain, for the record?
[00:58:45]  From Britain, that's right, from England.
[00:58:47]  He pastored the London Tabernacle Church, was the name of his church.
[00:58:52]  And it was, by all measures and metrics at that time, it was one of the very few in that age mega churches.
[00:58:58]  And so Charles Spurgeon was a widely popular preacher.
[00:59:03]  Not because he was pulling punches, but the people wanted hard, truthful, gut punch sermons from the Word of God.
[00:59:10]  And so all the newspapers would publish the transcripts of his sermons on Monday morning.
[00:59:15]  But he said this in this vein of nationalism, right?
[00:59:19]  Because sometimes people say, well, you say Christian nationalist, but it just feels, it doesn't feel very Christian.
[00:59:24]  It seems like pagan nationalism, or it's just, I don't know, it's something outside.
[00:59:30]  It seems like you're putting this thin spiritual veneer, religious veneer on it, but it seems like you're really after something else.
[00:59:36]  Well, this is what Charles Spurgeon said, and it's indicative of how the average person, the average Christian, the average pastor thought not that long ago.
[00:59:45]  He said, I judge his determination that God has blessed the two nations of the Anglo-Saxon race, England and the United States, and given them preeminence in commerce and in liberty on purpose so that they may spread abroad, not bringing them here, but spread abroad the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
[01:00:09]  Woe to these two nations, England and the United States, if they fail to fulfill their solemn obligations.
[01:00:17]  And I tweeted this out and I said, commentating on it, I said, here's the sad truth England and the United States did not heed Spurgeon's warning.
[01:00:25]  Spoiler alert, we failed.
[01:00:28]  And these once great nations failed not just in one regard, but in two specific arenas.
[01:00:36]  Number one, as England and America ceased to be Christian, They also ceased to be Anglo Saxon.
[01:00:45]  To ignore this obvious correlation between the two is not a sign of religious piety.
[01:00:51]  Sounds spiritual to not think in natural categories, but actually it is a sign that even the Christians among us are still not fully repentant for our blatant rebellion.

=== Nations Failing Their Obligations (14:39) ===

[01:01:03]  It is a sin for a nation to spiritually apostatize.
[01:01:08]  So, in the religious category, it's a sin that England and America, that the West has turned its back on the Lord Jesus Christ, that we have abandoned Christianity.
[01:01:17]  But it's also a grave sin for a nation to replace its own sons and daughters with a foreign people.
[01:01:24]  Christian nationalism, to break it down very simply, it requires two major components, right?
[01:01:31]  Seems obvious, but it seems like it needs to be said.
[01:01:34]  Number one, you want Christian nationalism?
[01:01:36]  You need Christianity, okay?
[01:01:38]  Number two, you want Christian nationalism?
[01:01:41]  You need a nation.
[01:01:43]  You need nationhood.
[01:01:44]  The West has surrendered both.
[01:01:47]  And therefore, in order for the West to be truly restored, using that language, we must resolve to restoring both of these.
[01:01:56]  In other words, we need Christianity.
[01:01:59]  Mass conversions, preaching.
[01:02:02]  We also need nationhood, the native citizens, which means not just mass conversions, but also, in some cases, mass deportations.
[01:02:14]  Anything less is merely the minimization of the actual sin our nations have committed and a tragic sign that the West has chosen to remain unrepentant.
[01:02:26]  We want Christian nationalism.
[01:02:27]  We see our brothers and sisters across the pond.
[01:02:31]  The heritage that we come from.
[01:02:33]  America didn't just develop out of the ether, right?
[01:02:35]  There's a context, there's a history, there's a heritage.
[01:02:38]  We came from our brothers and sisters, our fathers from across the pond in Great Britain, and we see what's happened to them, and we see what's happening to us.
[01:02:48]  And we want both not to be conserved.
[01:02:50]  We don't want to conserve the compromise that we've committed.
[01:02:54]  We want to restore back to righteousness, back to our origin, back to our heritage, both spiritually, Christianity, but also naturally, the native.
[01:03:03]  Citizens, we want mass conversions to Christ, and we do want, when necessary, mass deportations, especially of illegal immigrants and those who are criminals.
[01:03:14]  But even furthermore, for individuals who have been here for 15 minutes that are not compatible with the Christian West, it's not hatred.
[01:03:21]  Hey, I'm sorry, I want Christ to reign supreme in your native country.
[01:03:27]  We'll send missionaries, we want to see the gospel spread, but this is our country.
[01:03:33]  And it means something to be here, and it's not just propositional, it's not just agreeing with liberty and virtue, and it's also not just saying, I'm a Christian, I believe in Jesus, I'm glad you're a Christian, praise God for that.
[01:03:45]  Being a Christian does not make you an American, and you need both American and Christian Christian nationalism, America first, Christ first.
[01:03:56]  And what I'm excited about, whether I see you know the Restore England movement or whether I see a James Fishback running for governor in Florida, is I see guys.
[01:04:06]  Who are starting to get this reality?
[01:04:08]  James, back to you.
[01:04:10]  Luke chapter 6, verse 46.
[01:04:13]  Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do as I say?
[01:04:16]  We are called to follow the precepts, commandments.
[01:04:18]  We are called to evangelize.
[01:04:19]  And I'll tell you the truth the brave and courageous thing is not for migrants to come here, break into our country, and dispossess us of our jobs, our homes, our benefits, our birthright.
[01:04:30]  The brave, courageous thing is to stay where God put them.
[01:04:35]  Right.
[01:04:35]  God put them in that place for a reason.
[01:04:38]  Stay there and fight.
[01:04:40]  For your mothers and fathers, for your children, for your wife, for your nation.
[01:04:46]  Let us fight for our nation.
[01:04:49]  You know, this idea of compassion, let's have compassion for the migrants.
[01:04:54]  Where's the compassion for our brothers and sisters who have seen their lives torn asunder?
[01:05:00]  Where's the compassion for Lakin, Riley, Jocelyn Aguirre, and Rachel Marin?
[01:05:05]  Where's the compassion for the young man I met at Florida State University last month who has applied for over 200 positions at big tech companies, hasn't heard back once, but those companies are all pulling H 1B petitions and bringing more people in to our nation?
[01:05:20]  Nation.
[01:05:20]  And so the compassion is important for us.
[01:05:24]  The bravery is important.
[01:05:26]  You do the brave thing.
[01:05:27]  Stay right where God put you.
[01:05:29]  You evangelize.
[01:05:30]  You turn your country into something special and extraordinary.
[01:05:34]  Let's fight for our own.
[01:05:36]  It's the political thing to do.
[01:05:38]  It's the right thing to do.
[01:05:39]  It's also the biblical Christian thing to do.
[01:05:42]  Amen.
[01:05:42]  St. Paul.
[01:05:44]  You call him apostle.
[01:05:44]  I call him St. Paul.
[01:05:45]  I call him both for the record.
[01:05:47]  You got to alternate one or the other, you know, kind of 50 50.
[01:05:50]  Yeah, you go a little bit, a little bit of both.
[01:05:52]  But I go back to 1 Timothy because I thought it was brilliant.
[01:05:55]  Is this idea of who are we really called to take care of?
[01:05:58]  I mean, I always take it.
[01:06:00]  My grandfather was a professor, and he always told me, take things to the nth degree.
[01:06:03]  These are very big political, abstract concepts open border welfare.
[01:06:06]  Okay, but this you're a mom and a dad, and you got four kids.
[01:06:11]  Your kids are starving, but mom and dad are going across the street and doing a little barbecue for the kids at the park, feeding all the kids in the neighborhood while your two sons and two daughters are starving.
[01:06:23]  Are starving every single night.
[01:06:26]  That would not be the Christian thing to do.
[01:06:29]  And we have people, yes, who are quite literally starving in my state of Florida, but are hungry for something more, are hungry to give to the nation that has been given to them, are hungry to work, to have purpose, to raise a family, to have kids.
[01:06:43]  I meet young people every single day and I ask them, Do you ever think you'll be able to buy a home?
[01:06:48]  Flat out, no.
[01:06:49]  When my dad was growing up in South Florida in the 1960s, half, half of 30 year old men were married.
[01:06:56]  And own their home.
[01:06:57]  Today, it's less than 15%.
[01:06:59]  Ask somebody, whether it's in Mariana or in Miami, can you raise a family on a single income?
[01:07:05]  No.
[01:07:06]  And so let's get back to a country that does not obsess over the line going up of GDP, of the stock market is now 50,000 Pambondi.
[01:07:14]  Let's build a country that measures economic prosperity the right way.
[01:07:18]  And I'm not advocating for vibes.
[01:07:20]  I was an investor for 10 years.
[01:07:22]  I'm advocating for a quantitative, falsifiable measurement.
[01:07:26]  First and foremost, what percentage of 30 year old men, and as a consequence, women? Are married and own their home.
[01:07:32]  Guess what?
[01:07:32]  If you own your home, it means you have a great paying job.
[01:07:35]  You got kids who are on the way, got a little bit of dirt, family tree is going to be growing.
[01:07:39]  That's awesome.
[01:07:40]  And if you're married, well, of course, it's what we're called to do as Christians.
[01:07:45]  We're called to do as men is to find that God fearing woman.
[01:07:48]  And the second statistic is can a family of four raise that family on a single income?
[01:07:55]  My parents did it.
[01:07:57]  Their parents did it.
[01:07:59]  I want my kids.
[01:08:00]  Your kids to be able to do it.
[01:08:02]  We'll do it in Florida.
[01:08:03]  This election doesn't just matter for the 23 and a half million people who call Florida home.
[01:08:07]  Joel, as you know, we live in a federalist system.
[01:08:09]  And it was Justice Brandeis who opined in the 1920s that the beautiful coincidence of our federalist system is that some states can conduct experiments that other states can copy.
[01:08:19]  And what I want nothing more is to have eight great years in Florida that my friends here in Texas can copy.
[01:08:27]  And I'm not going to hit you with a plagiarism charge like I would to Kamala Harris.
[01:08:30]  Let's do something bold, let's reassert.
[01:08:34]  Let's put the founding words of our Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal.
[01:08:40]  And no, some are not more equal than others, because right now, American citizens are being treated like a less than, a second class in this weird caste system.
[01:08:51]  Funny enough, I say caste system because we are being replaced by Indians, which is rather fitting that the caste system is the way we're thinking about it.
[01:08:57]  But let's do something great in Florida and may it deliver for the entire nation.
[01:09:02]  May Republican governors and heck, even some Democrat governors who have some common sense.
[01:09:06]  May they look to what we do in Florida over four years and perhaps another four after that and say, Wow, let's do the same thing here.
[01:09:13]  Let's protect our people.
[01:09:15]  Let's do strong borders, strong families, great education, and protect the constitutional rights of every single one of our brothers and sisters.
[01:09:23]  Yep, well said.
[01:09:24]  That's what I want our listeners.
[01:09:25]  We've talked about this before, but we'll say it again.
[01:09:27]  I want our listeners to understand there is a nationwide impact if James Fishback wins.
[01:09:35]  If he wins, What that signals, the message conveyed to all the neocons, to the GOP, from MAGA to Mitch McConnell to everyone, is that this platform, this message is actually a viable winning message.
[01:09:54]  That a politician, not just for running for dog catcher, but a politician at a governor level can say Christ is king and not wish people a happy Diwali and say, no, we don't hate anyone, but this is a Christian nation.
[01:10:10]  The preeminence is given to Christianity, right?
[01:10:13]  Or, yes, there are some people that they've been here a while, they're contributing, and we praise God for those people.
[01:10:19]  But no, this is not just an economic zone where anybody can come, limitless, infinity immigration.
[01:10:28]  If James wins, it's shot across the bow.
[01:10:32]  It sends a message to every politician in America.
[01:10:34]  It will immediately trickle down to Texas, it'll trickle down to your state, it'll affect the 2028.
[01:10:40]  Election.
[01:10:41]  Seriously, even at the presidential level, people will be looking and say, This guy on that message, on that platform, with no funding, without the Trump endorsement, without this, without that, without Miriam Adelson and all of her millions of dollars in support, this guy won.
[01:10:57]  He won.
[01:10:58]  And not just, you know, Oklahoma, God bless Oklahoma, but Florida, third, right?
[01:11:02]  Third largest state in the Union.
[01:11:04]  This is significant.
[01:11:06]  And what it will do is it will strike terror, a godly sense of fear in the hearts of every traitor, in the hearts of all our enemies, but it will also inspire hope.
[01:11:15]  There are so many other guys who are watching right now who will say, What if James could do it with $950, $942 after he went to In N Out?
[01:11:23]  If he could do it on that budget, with that messaging, with that mission, with that virtue, with that conviction, then maybe I could do it.
[01:11:33]  And other guys, if one makes it, you will have hundreds, not 20 years from now, two years from now, in 2028, you will have dozens of young men.
[01:11:45]  American men running on that platform.
[01:11:48]  It is vital.
[01:11:49]  So, to all of our listeners in Florida and to listeners who aren't in Florida, July 20th, that's your deadline.
[01:11:55]  Move to Florida, register to vote.
[01:11:58]  It is absolutely vital that James Fishback wins.
[01:12:01]  We're praying for him.
[01:12:03]  We believe that God is with him.
[01:12:05]  God is sovereign over all things.
[01:12:07]  If he doesn't win, the Lord is still in charge.
[01:12:09]  There's still hope.
[01:12:09]  We don't black pill, but we're going to give everything we have for him to get across the finish line and win.
[01:12:15]  And here's the thing even if he doesn't, and I'm not trying to jinx things, you know.
[01:12:18]  I'm not trying to black pill and bring negativity to the conversation.
[01:12:23]  But if he doesn't, it's still vital that he gets as many votes as possible.
[01:12:26]  Because even if he doesn't win, if it's neck and neck, if he almost wins, that still sends a massive message.
[01:12:33]  So we want him to win, going to do everything for him to win.
[01:12:36]  But here's the thing it has to be at least at minimum close, it has to be significant, it has to be formidable.
[01:12:44]  Because if he runs an organic grassroots campaign on Christ is King and America First, and it's formidable for the third largest state in the Union for a governor position.
[01:12:56]  It changes the entire political landscape.
[01:12:59]  You need to see that.
[01:13:00]  You need to recognize how significant this actually is and get behind James Fishback.
[01:13:07]  So, thanks for coming on the show.
[01:13:08]  We're going to go ahead now here at the very end and honor all the guys who are supporting us, who sent in super chats.
[01:13:14]  Let's go ahead and start with you, Antonio.
[01:13:16]  A lot of these are for James.
[01:13:17]  So, just read the question, give it to James.
[01:13:19]  Okay.
[01:13:19]  Yep.
[01:13:19]  Our first one comes from over on YouTube, super chats.
[01:13:22]  Dakota Davis sent $5.
[01:13:23]  We thank you for that.
[01:13:24]  And says, Good morning, Mr. Fishback.
[01:13:26]  I'm liking and sharing your tweets.
[01:13:28]  I want to be more helpful with my prayers.
[01:13:29]  Specifically, how should we be praying?
[01:13:31]  God bless you.
[01:13:33]  Well, thank you, Dakota.
[01:13:35]  I would say if you could pray for my safety in discernment, that's really that I make the right decisions, that I go to the right places, that I say the right things that are true to me and true to our shared Christian faith.
[01:13:50]  And of course, pray for my safety.
[01:13:52]  You know, they tried to burn down my house last week.
[01:13:54]  Crazy.
[01:13:55]  And it's only going to get crazier.
[01:13:57]  I hate to say it, but it's only going to get crazier.
[01:13:59]  We now have security.
[01:14:01]  This is why we don't announce our events any more than 72 hours ahead of time.
[01:14:04]  But the momentum on the ground, the support on the ground is unreal.
[01:14:11]  2% in the polls 10 weeks ago, 23% now.
[01:14:15]  All kidding aside.
[01:14:15]  I messed you up.
[01:14:16]  Isn't that polling started January 19th?
[01:14:18]  So even that polling is technically out of date.
[01:14:20]  Even that is technically out of date.
[01:14:21]  Even that is before this generational run you've been on.
[01:14:24]  And it's been a lot of fun.
[01:14:25]  It's been really humbling.
[01:14:27]  But the day after they tried to burn my house down, I live in a rural county, Madison County.
[01:14:33]  We had 200 people in my front yard.
[01:14:35]  I said, We're not going anywhere.
[01:14:37]  We refuse to be intimidated.
[01:14:39]  Let's have a rally right in our front yard.
[01:14:41]  Took questions, spoke directly to the issues, directly to people in my own area, but also people drove four and a half, five hours just to be there to hear that conversation.
[01:14:50]  And so we're leaving it all on the field with this election.
[01:14:53]  My opponent, Byron Donalds, is a lazy DEI hire.
[01:14:56]  All he seems to do is go to Congress and trade stocks and insider information.
[01:15:00]  Our campaign is meeting voters where they are, where they least expect us, including on Tinder.
[01:15:04]  And I got to tell you, Joel, 4,000 matches in 48 hours isn't half bad.
[01:15:08]  They banned me because I got too much motion.
[01:15:10]  That's okay.
[01:15:11]  They said no political electioneering on Tinder.
[01:15:14]  And I said, look, we have to meet our young women where they are.
[01:15:18]  We have to meet young men where they are as well.
[01:15:20]  And for us, that means a Waffle House tour statewide, going to Waffle Houses in every single county and just talking to voters, hearing what excites them, what gets them out of bed in the morning, but also what keeps them up at night.
[01:15:32]  And so, Dakota, if you could pray for my safety and discernment, I would be honored.
[01:15:37]  You got to meet.
[01:15:39]  The American young women where they are, like OnlyFans, right?

=== Winning For Our Veterans (09:54) ===

[01:15:42]  So you got to show up and say, hey, here's the deal.
[01:15:46]  Christ is king.
[01:15:47]  Vote James Fish back.
[01:15:48]  We love you.
[01:15:49]  We want to see you restored and brought out of this kind of lifestyle and to incentivize you towards righteousness because we genuinely care about you.
[01:15:57]  We want you to turn off the webcam, find a good man, get married, have a family, and to incentivize you, we're going to preach the hope of the gospel and we're going to levy the HO tax, right?
[01:16:09]  The syntax is what we thought.
[01:16:11]  What are we up to now?
[01:16:11]  Is it 50%?
[01:16:12]  Well, it's 50% for Sophie Rain because she keeps counter signaling and attacking this campaign.
[01:16:16]  It's 100% for her.
[01:16:18]  I will be sitting with my sisters in Miami on Wednesday with Fresh and Fit.
[01:16:25]  We're going to do a round.
[01:16:26]  Table with some OnlyFans creators in Miami on Wednesday night.
[01:16:30]  And so, Joel, I'm going to need some spiritual guidance before I go down there.
[01:16:33]  But in all seriousness, if you're a woman.
[01:16:36]  Let me say this real quick.
[01:16:36]  Are you going alone?
[01:16:38]  I am.
[01:16:39]  Alone on the show?
[01:16:40]  No, no, no.
[01:16:41]  So I've got Myron Gaines and his co host.
[01:16:46]  But do you have guys on your crew who are traveling with you?
[01:16:48]  Oh, yeah, of course.
[01:16:49]  You need the accountability.
[01:16:51]  Oh, of course.
[01:16:51]  100%.
[01:16:52]  Ask me how I know.
[01:16:53]  Right.
[01:16:53]  And by God's grace, for over a decade as a married man, I've been faithful.
[01:16:56]  But before I was married, Temptation is real.
[01:16:58]  Sure.
[01:16:59]  So go there.
[01:17:00]  Jesus talked to the downtrodden, to the people with a bad reputation.
[01:17:06]  Like that.
[01:17:06]  I mean, the Pharisees were constantly levying that accusation.
[01:17:09]  Look at what company keeps.
[01:17:10]  So go.
[01:17:11]  Just don't go alone.
[01:17:12]  Of course not.
[01:17:12]  And the whole thing's going to be alive, which is going to be great.
[01:17:15]  Hopefully that part isn't live where they try to tempt me.
[01:17:17]  But I genuinely mean this.
[01:17:21]  If you were a woman in my state and you feel like you're out of options, you got a kid and you feel like the only way you can make ends meet, you can pay the rent, pay for groceries.
[01:17:31]  Feed your family is by selling nude images of yourself on the internet.
[01:17:35]  I'm going to be a governor for you two.
[01:17:37]  I'm going to make sure that you don't have to because guess what?
[01:17:40]  You shouldn't have to sell your kidney to pay the mortgage.
[01:17:43]  And you also shouldn't have to sell nude images and videos of yourself to pay your rent.
[01:17:48]  And so I'm going to meet young women where they are.
[01:17:50]  If they are genuine, if this is something that they feel that they can only do and otherwise they'd have no other way to pay their expenses, then of course we're going to help them.
[01:17:59]  But as Christians, we are called to say, If something is sinful, we can't let our brothers and sisters continue to sin.
[01:18:08]  There's grace, compassion, mercy, but Jesus, he would forgive.
[01:18:12]  And then he would also follow it up by saying, now go and sin no more.
[01:18:15]  Sin no more.
[01:18:16]  Yeah.
[01:18:16]  Go and sin no more.
[01:18:17]  And that's the beauty in my faith of confession being held accountable, professing, repenting, but then saying, and now sin no more.
[01:18:27]  And so my view has always been I'm never going to shy away from a conversation.
[01:18:31]  They'll say, well, what Myron Gade said this, Myron Gade said that.
[01:18:34]  Look, if we're going to play that game, I'm never going to go on CNN either.
[01:18:36]  And I've been on there a dozen times in the last year.
[01:18:38]  I'm not here to nitpick anyone's personal statements.
[01:18:41]  I am here to take an opportunity to meet with women.
[01:18:44]  I don't respect what they are doing presently, but I respect who they are.
[01:18:49]  And I want for them something more.
[01:18:52]  I want our women to aspire to be what we all know they can be.
[01:18:56]  You know, it was not too long ago that women aspired to be doctors, nurses, lawyers, pilots, even devoted moms.
[01:19:04]  And now, Oh, you can't pay your tuition?
[01:19:07]  Well, here's a site.
[01:19:08]  It's run by some very special people.
[01:19:11]  Here's a site.
[01:19:11]  Go sell nude images.
[01:19:12]  They'll take a cut.
[01:19:14]  And that's going to be the case.
[01:19:14]  If you're going to continue to do that, the state of Florida is going to have to levy a tax that is so punitive.
[01:19:21]  And the libertarians will yell at me and say, Well, didn't you take a pledge for no new taxes?
[01:19:25]  No, I took a pledge to save my state and to try to save this country.
[01:19:28]  And what I know about taxes is very simple.
[01:19:30]  I was an econ undergrad.
[01:19:31]  My thesis is on taxation.
[01:19:33]  And what I can tell you is this if you want to encourage an activity, You lower the cost of the activity.
[01:19:40]  You cut the taxes of the activity.
[01:19:42]  If you want to disincentivize, discourage, and deter an activity, you raise the cost, raise the price, raise the tax of it.
[01:19:50]  That's right.
[01:19:51]  Just Econ 101, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:19:52]  That's what libertarians, they, you know, God bless them.
[01:19:54]  There's a lot of overlap and agreement, but that's what they don't understand.
[01:19:58]  And I used to think this way as a conservative.
[01:20:01]  You know, it's big government versus small government.
[01:20:04]  Big government versus small government is not synonymous with righteous government versus wicked.
[01:20:09]  Government.
[01:20:10]  Correct.
[01:20:10]  What we're going for is not big nor small.
[01:20:13]  What we're going for is righteousness.
[01:20:15]  And the reality is, what righteousness would look like at the civil level in many cases would be certain branches, certain forms and arenas of government being bigger and certain ones being smaller.
[01:20:25]  This right here, the government is doing, it needs to stop the overreach.
[01:20:28]  This is wrong.
[01:20:28]  We shouldn't be doing all these different, you know, geopolitical escapades and, you know, this and that and the other.
[01:20:33]  Stop that.
[01:20:34]  Pull that back.
[01:20:35]  Over here, oh, like, for instance, stopping crime, police, those, this might need to be bigger.
[01:20:41]  So it depends on what is righteous.
[01:20:45]  And in regards to Myron Gaines, I'm glad that you're doing that.
[01:20:48]  We need to go where the conversation is.
[01:20:50]  There's people to reach for the cause of Christ.
[01:20:52]  I actually spoke with Myron recently, and yeah, like, we have disagreements.
[01:20:57]  There are things that, you know, I mean, for one, He's not Christian, but there are certain things that we agree on, and I want to be able to influence individuals like that for the cause of Christ.
[01:21:06]  And Myron Gaines, despite the things that I think are wrong and that I disagree with, and he disagrees with me on plenty, there are some things where it's like, hey, this guy actually, it's not a coincidence.
[01:21:18]  It's not arbitrary or random.
[01:21:20]  The reason why young men are going to guys like Myron Gaines is because he's saying something that goes against the status quo that we've been under, the spell we've been under for so long.
[01:21:29]  I don't think that he has all the solutions, but the diagnoses.
[01:21:33]  Is spot on in many cases.
[01:21:35]  A lot of those guys in the red pill manosphere, their diagnosis of what is actually crushing and inhibiting young men is incredibly accurate.
[01:21:45]  And so, yeah, we want to have those kinds of conversations.
[01:21:49]  I'm glad to hear that you are.
[01:21:51]  So, next question.
[01:21:52]  James, I'm going to read a set of four super chats.
[01:21:54]  Two of them are just statements and well wishes, and then two of them have a question within the same vein.
[01:21:58]  Man of War sent $5 and said, Love to James Fishback.
[01:22:01]  May God make you victorious.
[01:22:03]  Thank you, sir.
[01:22:03]  Thank you, man of war.
[01:22:04]  Not Boring Dad sent in $9.99 and said, Inspiring courage, James, Florida will be saved.
[01:22:08]  I am happy also to see Lowe's movement, and it gives hope my grandchildren will not take part in the new crusade to liberate England from Islamic rule.
[01:22:16]  Thank you very much, Dad.
[01:22:18]  Dapper Dan and Censored86.
[01:22:20]  Would any of your initiatives, James, benefit Florida residents stationed out of state?
[01:22:25]  And then Censored86 said, James, any benefit for young couples to move to Florida?
[01:22:29]  So, stationed out of state and then young couples moving to Florida.
[01:22:32]  Any benefits for them?
[01:22:33]  That's a great one.
[01:22:34]  So, Dapper Dan, so when I hear stationed out of state, I typically will think of military service.
[01:22:38]  And the question is absolutely.
[01:22:40]  I was at McGill Air Force Base yesterday near there in Tampa.
[01:22:44]  And I can tell you that we have our 1.4 million veterans in our state.
[01:22:49]  We'll never be able to repay them for the sacrifice they've undertaken for our nation.
[01:22:54]  But we got to at least try.
[01:22:57]  And this VA system, I grew up taking my grandfather, a World War II vet, to the VA.
[01:23:01]  It's disgraceful.
[01:23:03]  It is absolutely disgraceful.
[01:23:04]  The wait times they put our vets through, they gave everything for our country.
[01:23:07]  They got to wait four to six months to get an appointment.
[01:23:10]  They get there, they got to wait two to three hours, and then they're disrespected.
[01:23:13]  It doesn't make any sense.
[01:23:15]  And so, for me, when I think about two things with respect to our vets who are stationed out of state, abroad, and they're coming back home, it's two things.
[01:23:24]  The first of which is we actually have to give them world class health care.
[01:23:29]  What I'm prepared to do as governor is I'm actually going to sue the VA in federal court and say, look, here are all of your countless violations, all the things you said you were going to do, you didn't do.
[01:23:38]  You have a choice fix them or give us all the money you would have otherwise spent in Florida and let us build our own state based VA health care system.
[01:23:47]  Let's call their bluff.
[01:23:49]  Number two, the idle mind is the devil's playground.
[01:23:55]  And what often happens for our brave soldiers who come back, airmen, seamen who come back home in Florida, is they're not given an opportunity.
[01:24:03]  They're not given something to do right away.
[01:24:06]  So that idle mind is where those thoughts fester, where those horrific scenes, perhaps abroad, that stress gets replayed in their head.
[01:24:14]  And then we all know the statistics about vets who die by suicide.
[01:24:18]  What I want to do.
[01:24:20]  Is I want to create a jobs guarantee for our vets for 24 months.
[01:24:24]  Come back from deployment.
[01:24:25]  You can work 24 months, two years, a great paying job in state government.
[01:24:31]  We could use your skills, your perspective, your excellence, your rigor at the state level, whether it be in the Department of Corrections, whether it be in Tallahassee on education, whatever it may be.
[01:24:42]  And at the same time, we know that those two years when you come back are especially precarious in reintegrating our vets back into non combat theater, that I think we can.
[01:24:57]  Have a win win situation there.
[01:24:58]  And so I think those two things are very important when I think about what we can do for the folks who are returning home.
[01:25:03]  Awesome.
[01:25:03]  All right, we're going to go ahead and transition now to some of our Rumble super chats.
[01:25:07]  This is from Mulliton.
[01:25:11]  It's a big name.
[01:25:13]  We appreciate your support.
[01:25:14]  He said, James, what is the best way to fight back about the censorship of the media?
[01:25:21]  It's a good question.
[01:25:25]  I think that.
[01:25:27]  A lot of work has been done.
[01:25:29]  Notwithstanding being suspended from X for 24 hours on Friday, I think Elon Musk has done great work there.
[01:25:34]  What was it?
[01:25:35]  I have no clue, but I made it very clear I was not going to delete any tweet.

=== Justice And Appropriate Penalties (09:28) ===

[01:25:37]  I don't know what it was.
[01:25:38]  Perhaps it was me saying, just merely historically observing, that if Don Lemon had pulled that little ransacking stunt in the early days of this country, he would have been executed publicly for doing that.
[01:25:48]  It's merely historical observation.
[01:25:49]  I wasn't inciting violence.
[01:25:51]  If anyone was inciting violence, that was a banger.
[01:25:54]  That was a great tweet.
[01:25:55]  Absolutely.
[01:25:56]  Tall tree, short rope.
[01:25:57]  Just an observation of historical past.
[01:26:00]  Sure.
[01:26:00]  And by the way, if we're going to be completely honest for just a sec, they said, well, he was black.
[01:26:04]  Well, first of all, I didn't call for a lynching.
[01:26:06]  A lynching, by its very nature, is extra judicial.
[01:26:10]  It circumvents due process, it circumvents a jury trial.
[01:26:13]  A public execution by hanging, remember, hang him high with Clint Eastwood, right?
[01:26:18]  Last time I checked, all those guys were white.
[01:26:20]  And I would venture to say that most people in the history of our country who were executed publicly by hanging were disproportionately white, not black.
[01:26:28]  So you just had a fair trial.
[01:26:29]  And had a fair trial.
[01:26:31]  And so the last public hanging, by the way, in Florida was in 1924.
[01:26:35]  I'm not one of those weird.
[01:26:37]  It's been too long.
[01:26:38]  It's been too long.
[01:26:39]  Let me just say, because Epstein just continues to be part of the conversation and it should be.
[01:26:45]  I am really upset with how Pam Bondi and the establishment DC Republicans have handled this whole thing.
[01:26:57]  What I would do as governor is very simple.
[01:26:59]  I would reopen these investigations.
[01:27:02]  I would assign a statewide sex crimes prosecutor.
[01:27:06]  You're a Florida resident, or any of these crimes that were committed in Florida, we're going to throw the book at you.
[01:27:12]  And capital sexual battery in Florida, believe it or not, has no statute of limitations.
[01:27:19]  We don't need to change the law to reopen all these investigations.
[01:27:23]  And looking through those files, you know, a lot is talked about the island, the island.
[01:27:27]  The bigger island was not.
[01:27:30]  The one we think of, the bigger island was the island of Palm Beach.
[01:27:33]  A lot of what we read in the files, a lot of those heinous, despicable crimes, not merely against women, against children, Joel, were committed in Florida.
[01:27:43]  Capital sex bat, no statute of limitation, assign a statewide sex crimes prosecutor.
[01:27:50]  I don't care if there's a D next to your name or an R text to your name.
[01:27:53]  That's right.
[01:27:54]  Throw the book at you.
[01:27:55]  And yes, public execution.
[01:27:57]  It has never been ruled unconstitutional, it has never been ruled unlawful.
[01:28:00]  I'm sure the ACLU will be clamoring to a federal judge to get an injunction.
[01:28:04]  But we are going to get the gallows ready at high noon.
[01:28:07]  This is unacceptable.
[01:28:08]  And so, well, they say, well, what do you mean?
[01:28:11]  What kind of society are we to execute someone publicly?
[01:28:14]  A just one.
[01:28:15]  A just one.
[01:28:15]  That's right.
[01:28:16]  What kind of society are we to allow men who victimized, raped, trafficked children to let them go, to not hold them accountable?
[01:28:25]  I'm past the point of life in prison for these people, not just for them to see justice, but to forever deter anyone, man or woman, from ever putting their hands on a child the way Epstein and his co-conspirators did.
[01:28:40]  If we do this and we do it right, we can really deter.
[01:28:46]  And really discipline a society and say, look, we're not tolerating it.
[01:28:50]  No one's talking about publicly executing somebody for stealing a Snickers bar.
[01:28:54]  Right.
[01:28:55]  No one's talking about that.
[01:28:56]  What we're saying is if you commit the most heinous crimes against children, that yes, we are going to hang you in the public square at high noon full stop.
[01:29:05]  Amen.
[01:29:05]  Yeah, the Bible's very clear in the book of Deuteronomy.
[01:29:07]  It says, whenever justice is delayed, that the wicked begin to rise.
[01:29:13]  But whenever there's swift justice, that's also a justice that's unbiased, right?
[01:29:17]  It does not show favoritism.
[01:29:18]  So D next to the name, R next to the name.
[01:29:21]  Equal weights and equal measures.
[01:29:22]  It doesn't matter either way.
[01:29:23]  You commit the crime and you're going to incur the penalty.
[01:29:26]  So it's without favoritism.
[01:29:28]  Justice is blind, after all.
[01:29:30]  She's supposed to be.
[01:29:31]  So not showing favoritism based off of race, not showing favoritism based off of political affiliation.
[01:29:36]  So it's a blind justice.
[01:29:37]  It's a swift justice, right, that acts as a deterrent.
[01:29:41]  And then the last biblical qualification for true biblical justice is it's also a proportional justice.
[01:29:46]  This is what the Bible says in terms of eye for eye, right?
[01:29:49]  Tooth for tooth, life for life, you know, and you have all these, you know, Eastern mystical religions, well, an eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
[01:29:57]  Actually, it doesn't.
[01:29:59]  Because the first guy to poke out someone else's eye and then receive the consequence of having his eye poked out, it says to everybody else around the whole world, we should stop poking out eyes.
[01:30:10]  So it actually leaves the world able to see.
[01:30:12]  And so what you're saying, James, that I think is so biblical, so Christian, and so right and loving towards children, loving towards women, loving towards people in Florida, is you're saying, we're going to actually attach the appropriate penalty to this.
[01:30:26]  Hainous sin and crime, which is molesting children.
[01:30:31]  What you're saying is that this is such a heinous crime.
[01:30:34]  Rush Dooney, he was a theologian.
[01:30:35]  He once said, There are some crimes that are so heinous that we really can't do justice here on earth.
[01:30:41]  And so it becomes incumbent upon us to take the criminal and immediately transfer them to a higher court.
[01:30:48]  Wow.
[01:30:49]  I had not heard who said that.
[01:30:50]  Rush Dooney.
[01:30:51]  R. L. Rush Dooney, right?
[01:30:53]  Yep.
[01:30:54]  R. J. R. J. Rush Dooney.
[01:30:55]  So he was a biblical scholar and it was very well said.
[01:30:59]  And he's And he wasn't just tongue in cheek.
[01:31:01]  He was being serious and saying, Look, some of these things, like in the case of murder, we can't, right?
[01:31:06]  We're talking about restoring.
[01:31:07]  There's some things we can't restore.
[01:31:08]  We can't bring back that loved one who lost their life.
[01:31:11]  You can never really make the family completely whole.
[01:31:14]  But what you can do is you can say, God will gain for himself perfect justice in the life to come.
[01:31:19]  And so we're going to go ahead and speed that along.
[01:31:22]  We're going to bring this person to hasten the court, the eternal court.
[01:31:26]  That's right.
[01:31:27]  And in the meantime, it doesn't bring back the loved one, right?
[01:31:30]  That little child who is but it stops the next one from being abused, raped, and so on.
[01:31:34]  It stops the next one, a deterrent, and it also, in olden times and even in present day, for the few states that actually still practice, you know, capital punishment, the family of the victim is invited into that scene because there's something good and right about that.
[01:31:49]  Cathartic.
[01:31:50]  That's yeah, it's not vengeance.
[01:31:52]  Vengeance belongs to me, says the Lord.
[01:31:54]  We're not talking about vengeance, these are separate categories.
[01:31:56]  It's justice.
[01:31:57]  We're not talking about vigilantes.
[01:31:59]  God gave to the civil magistrate.
[01:32:02]  The sword.
[01:32:03]  And the Bible says in Romans 13, He does not bear the sword in vain.
[01:32:06]  Do you not want to have fear of the one who rules over you?
[01:32:09]  Then do what is good.
[01:32:11]  Right?
[01:32:11]  So this is all perfectly biblical language.
[01:32:14]  It's good for the victim's family.
[01:32:16]  It's good for the victim themselves.
[01:32:18]  It's good for justice in the eternal sense.
[01:32:20]  It's good as a deterrent to keep others from having the audacity to commit such a heinous crime.
[01:32:26]  All this is good and right.
[01:32:27]  And it only sounds foreign to our soft liberal ears because we've been hoodwinked, because we've been deceived for so long.
[01:32:36]  And particularly been deceived by the intelligentsia, which would have us believe that these things are more complex than they really are.
[01:32:42]  And one thing I really appreciate about you, James, is your articulation is actually, it comes off as very simple.
[01:32:47]  At the end of the day, government's very simple.
[01:32:48]  People want safety, they want peace, they want prosperity.
[01:32:51]  It's almost like in the preamble of the Constitution to promote the domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general.
[01:32:57]  These things are very simple, but the DC Unit Party would have you believe that you need hundreds of advisors and thousands of people working for lobbying firms and all of these political consultants with their polls from here and there to actually.
[01:33:10]  It's really complicated to prosecute sex offenders.
[01:33:12]  What are people thinking?
[01:33:14]  It's very, very simple.
[01:33:16]  And James, I think one thing in the way that you are resonating with so many people, both in Florida, But also without Florida, is because of the simplicity of your articulation of these issues, what exactly should be done, justice should be served.
[01:33:28]  People are clamoring in this country for justice.
[01:33:30]  They're clamoring for safety.
[01:33:32]  They're clamoring for someone who will speak up and say, This person, they support me.
[01:33:36]  They support my way of life, and they're willing to defend it.
[01:33:39]  They're willing to protect it.
[01:33:41]  And I'm willing to put my name because at the end of the day, as governor, I have to sign off.
[01:33:46]  I'm going to be the ultimate person to decide if that person gets executed when I have to sign off effectively on that final order.
[01:33:54]  You know, the current And I think you bring up a great point is this politics of highfalutin nonsense.
[01:34:01]  Oh, it's just way more complicated than that.
[01:34:03]  No, it isn't.
[01:34:04]  This person raped children, either killed them or effectively killed them and killed their spirit, their ability to have a meaningful relationship, robbed them of their innocence, their adolescence.
[01:34:16]  But I'm also not in favor of this, well, you're on death row for 20 years nonsense.
[01:34:20]  If anything, that's cruel and unusual because what you're doing is you're separating the sinful act.
[01:34:26]  With the punishment.
[01:34:28]  So, someone was raped in 1992 and we're executing them today.
[01:34:31]  Well, there's no deterrent effect because all the people who heard about the story in 1992 of this young girl who was raped and murdered, her body was left in the Everglades, we wanted justice then.
[01:34:42]  And the old saying in the Wild Wild West was don't cheat the hanging judge in my town.
[01:34:48]  And I would never want to cheat the hanging judge in Florida.
[01:34:51]  Let that happen through a fair trial, through all the evidence presented, through an attorney that is given to the defendant pro bono.
[01:35:00]  But whatever verdict, may that be done.
[01:35:03]  And if that is execution, that is execution.

=== Raising Millions For Church (03:19) ===

[01:35:06]  Amen.
[01:35:07]  Next super chat.
[01:35:08]  This is on Rumble.
[01:35:09]  This is God is good and I am happy.
[01:35:11]  This is my favorite username.
[01:35:12]  He comes up every week.
[01:35:13]  God is good reading.
[01:35:14]  God is good reading.
[01:35:15]  Yeah.
[01:35:15]  So he gave us $10.
[01:35:16]  We appreciate that.
[01:35:17]  Thanks for the support.
[01:35:18]  He said, healthy, happy.
[01:35:19]  So this is kind of retroactive going back to comments earlier made in regards to the Restore Britain party.
[01:35:26]  He said, healthy, happy animals killed instantly taste the best.
[01:35:30]  All stress, including halal or kosher slaughter, reduce.
[01:35:34]  They actually reduce the quality of the meat.
[01:35:37]  God actually is wise.
[01:35:39]  He incentivizes animal husbandry and mercy with better tasting steaks.
[01:35:45]  Praise be to God.
[01:35:46]  Common God W. That's fantastic.
[01:35:49]  I didn't know that, but checks out.
[01:35:51]  All right.
[01:35:51]  And then the last one for today is CyCooper17.
[01:35:56]  He gave us another $10 super chat on Rumble.
[01:35:58]  We appreciate that.
[01:35:59]  He said, Joel, I'm from California.
[01:36:02]  I'm from Texas, but I was in California for about a decade, so I can feel this.
[01:36:06]  I'm from California and looking to move to Texas.
[01:36:09]  God bless.
[01:36:10]  What areas would you recommend?
[01:36:12]  Also, how is the Lutheran community out there?
[01:36:15]  I've been going to a Lutheran service here and I really enjoy the church.
[01:36:19]  Praise God, we love our Lutheran brothers and sisters in Christ.
[01:36:22]  I'm not just saying this, I know it's going to sound biased and self serving, but it's actually true.
[01:36:27]  So, our area in Texas, which is about an hour north of Austin, was settled.
[01:36:33]  This central Texas, north of Austin, you've got Fredericksburg, you've got Georgetown, you've got some of these areas.
[01:36:38]  We're in Georgetown.
[01:36:39]  They were actually settled predominantly, heavily.
[01:36:43]  By Germans.
[01:36:44]  And so there is a plethora of Lutheran churches in our area.
[01:36:48]  So you could find a good Lutheran church, but also you would have the opportunity to go to your Lutheran church.
[01:36:53]  But this is, do me a favor, make me this deal.
[01:36:57]  Come and visit our church once, at least just one time.
[01:37:00]  Come and visit our church, give it a shot, because you will find a lot of commonality, a lot of overlap with the Lutheran tradition.
[01:37:08]  And if it just doesn't quite suit your convictions, we fully support it.
[01:37:12]  Go to your Lutheran church.
[01:37:13]  But if you move to our area, we could still, we'd love to meet you, we can spend time with you.
[01:37:18]  And you would find lots of Lutheran churches, a rich German heritage here in our neck of the woods.
[01:37:24]  This is central Texas, north of Austin.
[01:37:27]  You will find the German heritage, you will find the Lutheran church, and you'll also find us.
[01:37:30]  All right, that is our show for today.
[01:37:33]  James, last final word.
[01:37:34]  How can people follow you?
[01:37:35]  What can they do?
[01:37:36]  How can they help?
[01:37:37]  Fishback2026.com.
[01:37:39]  If they want to volunteer, if they're in a position to donate, we'd appreciate it.
[01:37:42]  You know, all jokes aside, we haven't raised $950.
[01:37:45]  We've raised over a quarter million dollars.
[01:37:46]  Praise God.
[01:37:46]  We'll hit a million dollars by Easter.
[01:37:48]  You started though with like 900 bucks.
[01:37:50]  We did.
[01:37:51]  But it's catching up.
[01:37:52]  And it just catches up.
[01:37:53]  And I'm really humbled by all the support we've gotten from all over the country.
[01:37:56]  People recognize that this is really a proxy for the future of the Republican Party in Florida.
[01:38:02]  Two very competing visions, theories for the future of Republicanism in our country.
[01:38:08]  So I'd be honored to have their support at fishback2026.com.
[01:38:11]  Amen.
[01:38:12]  Yeah, the visions are stark.
[01:38:13]  I mean, it really is black and white.
[01:38:15]  It is.
[01:38:15]  Thanks for tuning in, Crisis King.
[01:38:17]  And we will see you guys again on.
[01:38:20]  Wednesday with the next part in our series, 10 part series with Nicholas J. Fuentes.
[01:38:25]  Tune in then.