NXR Podcast - THE LIVESTREAM - Excommunicated Over H-1Bs, Vivek’s Heresy, and Antifa Pastors
Aired: 2025-10-10
Duration: 01:43:34


=== Antifa Pastor and Church Persecution (05:14) ===

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[00:00:34]  It's Friday, and today is a news roundup.
[00:00:37]  Three major stories that we want to cover in today's episode.
[00:00:41]  Welcome to the show.
[00:00:42]  The first story that we're going to cover is an excommunication that just took place from a church with a well known pastor who has been a celebrity worship music artist.
[00:00:55]  And they kicked one of their members out who had already had his business crushed by the left, by communists in our nation, already experienced plenty of personal loss.
[00:01:07]  And the church that he was a member at decided to hop on board with the world and persecuting a follower of Christ.
[00:01:14]  Now, why was he excommunicated?
[00:01:16]  Well, because of course he's a racist.
[00:01:19]  And what do we mean by that?
[00:01:20]  Well, he believes, of course, that there are some tribes and people groups who are subhuman, that don't even have a soul, that can't be saved.
[00:01:29]  Nope, not even close.
[00:01:31]  What did he believe?
[00:01:32]  What did he say?
[00:01:33]  He said he wanted his children to grow up in an America that looked like America.
[00:01:39]  He simply said that he didn't want millions of Indians on H 1B visas continuing to be shipped to our country.
[00:01:48]  He wanted America to stay America.
[00:01:50]  He was against mass immigration from foreign nations with people who worship foreign gods.
[00:01:57]  And for that, the leftist communist in our nation turned and crushed his business.
[00:02:03]  Now, that is no surprise.
[00:02:05]  But what is so tragic and sad is that his church and well known Christian pastor. joined not Christ, not him, not his family in their defense, but joined the world in trying to crush this man and excommunicating him from the church.
[00:02:23]  That's the first story that we'll look into and we'll read a statement in regards to that wrongful, wicked excommunication.
[00:02:31]  Second story, since we're talking about a bunch of Indians and Hindus on H 1B visas, we'd be remiss if we did not bring up one of our favorite Indians, Vivek Ramaswamy.
[00:02:42]  Vivek Ramaswamy, once again, Trying to lecture heritage Americans on what it means to be an American.
[00:02:50]  Vivek is second generation.
[00:02:52]  He's born in Ohio, but his parents, only one generation removed, from a country on the other side of the world, and he himself, not only his parents, he himself, yes, he went to a Catholic school, but he is still a Hindu.
[00:03:06]  And he tried to make the comparison that Christians believing and worshiping the triune God is somehow the same as Indians worshiping three million different.
[00:03:19]  Demonic gods.
[00:03:21]  Okay, there's Vivek for you.
[00:03:23]  That guy has been a loser from the start, right?
[00:03:26]  He scammed a bunch of people with pharmaceutical medicines.
[00:03:31]  And when he made a bunch of money there, he decided to pivot and try to become the president of the United States and tell you what it means to be a Christian and what it means to be an American.
[00:03:41]  So that's our second story.
[00:03:43]  And then lastly, the third story is an Antifa pastor.
[00:03:48]  Antifa pastor, I think, is a fair term.
[00:03:51]  I don't know whether or not he himself is actually a formal member of Antifa, but he took the side of Antifa in protesting in his city against God's magistrate, the civil magistrate, God's deacon, who is trying to take illegal aliens who should not be in our country and get them out, aka executing justice.
[00:04:13]  He stood with a bunch of Antifa and leftist protesters against ICE, as ICE is trying to do the just thing that aligns with the word of God.
[00:04:24]  The Bible is clear that God sets nations.
[00:04:27]  Acts chapter 17, he sets their times and their boundaries.
[00:04:31]  You're allowed to have a country.
[00:04:33]  It has boundaries set by the providence of God.
[00:04:36]  You're allowed to have borders.
[00:04:37]  And you're allowed to say that the entire world doesn't get to come and move into your country, certainly illegally.
[00:04:45]  And yet, we have a pastor in this case who is siding with Antifa against the Trump admin ICE that are there trying to clean up the streets of this particular city and get criminal, illegal aliens out of town.
[00:05:01]  And this pastor, there's an iconic photo.
[00:05:04]  Of him standing with the communists, a communist at heart himself, no doubt.
[00:05:09]  And that will be the third story that we'll address today.
[00:05:11]  It's been a busy news cycle.
[00:05:13]  There's a lot going on.

=== Illegal Immigrants and Demographics Destiny (16:05) ===

[00:05:14]  We'll also talk about, give you a quick update on how many people have actually deported or self deported so far in the last few months of Trump's administration, coming up on his completion of his first year now.
[00:05:27]  So we'll give you all the news today and we'll do our best to break it down and then deal with super chats at the end.
[00:05:32]  If you want to send in a question, we'll do our best to answer it.
[00:05:35]  If you send it as a super chat, then that's going to get the top priority, and we'll make sure that we answer all of those.
[00:05:41]  That's the show.
[00:05:42]  Let's go ahead and tune in now.
[00:05:54]  All right, all right.
[00:05:55]  It is Friday.
[00:05:56]  Good afternoon, kings and queens.
[00:05:58]  Good afternoon.
[00:06:00]  I think we start with H 1B visas.
[00:06:01]  And we mentioned specifically this man, his name's Daniel, and his excommunication.
[00:06:06]  But let's start off with the good news.
[00:06:08]  I was just going to say, yes, sir.
[00:06:11]  So I think we'll start with the good news, actually.
[00:06:13]  So DHS, Department of Homeland Security, tracks your native born and foreign born populations.
[00:06:18]  And so this is a great estimate of, hey, are people coming in?
[00:06:22]  Are people going out?
[00:06:23]  And when we think about mass deportations, we want the deportations themselves literally.
[00:06:27]  So you have ICE literally taking people and bringing them back to their country of origin.
[00:06:31]  They're going to be much happier there.
[00:06:32]  They speak the language, they know the recipes.
[00:06:35]  That's great.
[00:06:35]  But there's also people that are going to voluntarily leave.
[00:06:38]  They're going to say, hey, we had a good run.
[00:06:39]  The last four years were awesome.
[00:06:41]  I can tell this is just not the place for me.
[00:06:44]  And so we don't want to just track necessarily deportations because that number is actually going to be smaller than the full overall number.
[00:06:50]  And your full overall number is going to be your decline in foreign born population.
[00:06:54]  And so since the start of the Trump administration, DHS has tracked a decline.
[00:06:59]  You can see here on the graph, if it's up on the screen, a decline now of about 2.2 million.
[00:07:04]  So we're about nine months in.
[00:07:06]  January 20th, Trump took office.
[00:07:08]  We're nine months in, and we're actually down.
[00:07:09]  If you kind of round it all up, like I said, you got your literal deportations on one end.
[00:07:14]  You have, of course, people that left voluntarily.
[00:07:17]  You've got a good, sizable decline, the biggest one for sure in four years going on.
[00:07:21]  And I think that's a great thing.
[00:07:23]  We say, chimp, win.
[00:07:25]  There's things being done.
[00:07:26]  And we strongly disagree with it.
[00:07:27]  And real quick, just this is wrong.
[00:07:29]  Some of the older listeners, if you've been like, you guys keep talking about Chimps, why not orangutans?
[00:07:34]  Why not gorillas?
[00:07:35]  Why, um, it's just a term saying you should raise your voice and righteously complain when the civil magistrate is not doing what he's called by God to do, exactly.
[00:07:47]  And they work for you.
[00:07:48]  Remember, we have a representative government your representative, your senator, all the way up to your president.
[00:07:54]  They work for you.
[00:07:55]  That is literally their job.
[00:07:56]  What is the voice of the people?
[00:07:58]  I'm being sent up as a representative of them to do the things that they want me to do.
[00:08:03]  So, this is great if this continues, at least at minimum.
[00:08:06]  You'd be looking at honestly, probably reversing as you can see in that chart the last four years of the dramatic increase of about 10 million that's documented.
[00:08:17]  The last four years of the auto pin presidency, uh, coupled with our border czar.
[00:08:23]  Um, that last four years, uh, most of the I think the most accurate estimates that I've seen is between 30 and 40 million now that's legal, right?
[00:08:31]  Illegal, and then gotaways, right?
[00:08:34]  People who weren't even registered, so accounting for that, in addition, people say that.
[00:08:39]  Everyone who actually crossed the border and stayed in our country legally, illegally, and then also the gotaways was probably somewhere between 30 to 40 million from 2020 to 2024, four very, very dark years.
[00:08:54]  And like you said, we're looking at 2.2 million.
[00:08:57]  So let's say we finish the year.
[00:08:59]  We still got a few more months to go.
[00:09:01]  Let's say we, you know, be charitable here and say we finish the year at 3 million, right?
[00:09:06]  So if you just stayed on that pace, that's 12.
[00:09:09]  But a lot of this first year of Trump's administration was all the holdups in the courts.
[00:09:15]  And so having to remove certain judges and all these kinds of things.
[00:09:18]  Having to get funding for ICE.
[00:09:19]  Right.
[00:09:19]  Getting funding, the big, beautiful bill being passed, and all those kinds of things.
[00:09:23]  So I think it's fair to say that the next three years, they should be able to accomplish more than the first.
[00:09:28]  So if it's $3 million in the first, and that's the least of his four year administration, then let's say, you know, maybe it's an average of $5 million for the next three years.
[00:09:37]  So then that puts you at $18 million.
[00:09:39]  So I don't know if we're going to get $30 to $40.
[00:09:42]  But I think that we could get 20.
[00:09:44]  I think 20 is in the ballpark, and maybe by the grace of God, even more.
[00:09:49]  So I would say there's probably about 50 to 100 million people that need to go back.
[00:09:55]  But all of that being, you know, looking from even the 60s, the Hart Seller Act, and then, you know, all these different things that brought a bunch of people in who don't, they're not compatible with America.
[00:10:07]  I'm not saying every immigrant since the 1960s has to go, but I'm primarily thinking of those who are not compatible with America.
[00:10:16]  They have not shown any desire to assimilate.
[00:10:18]  People who have been here for 40 years and still don't speak English, right?
[00:10:23]  And they're not Christian.
[00:10:24]  They have some kind of Eastern religion, whether it's Hinduism or Islam or whatever.
[00:10:30]  I think that 50 to 100 million need to go.
[00:10:33]  And that's kind of over the last 60, 65, 70 years.
[00:10:38]  But with that 50 to 100 million, about, depending how you count, I would say 25, 30, 35% of that came in those four dark years of the Autopin administration.
[00:10:52]  And so I think that over these next four years of Trump's presidency, we may be able to at least undo the last four years of 2020 to 2024.
[00:11:02]  That would put us where, if we could undo that, get rid of 20, maybe even 30 million or so, and that would put us to where, okay, now we have another low estimate, would be like 25 million, high estimate, 70 that need to go.
[00:11:18]  And that means we still have a lot more work, but we're in a much better position.
[00:11:23]  And in that sense alone, we have been.
[00:11:26]  Frustrated by the first year of Trump's presidency.
[00:11:29]  There's things that we like, but there's a lot of things that we dislike.
[00:11:33]  And so we are regular chimpers, as they say.
[00:11:37]  That said, though, if all Trump does is undo the previous four years and there's still 50 million people who should not be in the country, but no longer 70, 80, or 100 million people that should not be in the country.
[00:11:51]  And you also have to couple that with the fact that if Trump had lost, it's not just that we wouldn't get rid of 20 to 30 million people.
[00:11:58]  But we would get another 20, 30, or 40 million people because the border would have stayed wide open with a Kamala presidency.
[00:12:07]  So, in terms of the swing, you'd have 20 to 40 million more during these four years if it had been Kamala.
[00:12:14]  And we might be looking at 20 to 30 million less.
[00:12:17]  And so, when you look at that and add the swing together, you're looking at anywhere from 40 to 70 million immigrant difference.
[00:12:27]  And if that's all he does, And I'm hoping and praying that he does more than that.
[00:12:31]  But if that's all he does, then it is not hyperbole to say that Donald J. Trump quite literally saved the country.
[00:12:39]  Yeah, there is a saying demographics is destiny.
[00:12:41]  Why don't we have huge wins like we saw Reagan win back during his second term?
[00:12:45]  He carried 49 states.
[00:12:47]  You'll never have those wins again.
[00:12:48]  America looked a lot different then.
[00:12:49]  That's right.
[00:12:49]  Your demographics, there is no reality.
[00:12:51]  Like right now, it's possible for 2028 and the Republican platform.
[00:12:55]  Here's the irony.
[00:12:56]  Why don't we have huge wins like Reagan had back in the day?
[00:12:58]  Reagan.
[00:12:59]  Right.
[00:12:59]  Reagan said, I had a generational run and I'm going to make sure.
[00:13:03]  Nobody after me is able to reach it.
[00:13:05]  And in that sense, I know that he was silent generation, but in that sense, Reagan was the precursor of the perfect boomer.
[00:13:11]  I'm going to have something.
[00:13:12]  And then I'm also, through my amnesty laws, I'm going to have this massive win.
[00:13:16]  And then through my stupid amnesty laws, I'm going to ensure that the great thing that I experienced, no generation after me will ever be able to experience.
[00:13:23]  He was truly the first of the boomers.
[00:13:27]  But all that to say, in 2028, we could legitimately see, I don't think they're going to win the nomination and go for president.
[00:13:33]  JD Vance, like him or love him or hate him, he is the heir apparent.
[00:13:37]  But it's very possible, and I think likely, that we'll see some type of truly right wing populist figure at least mount a decent challenge.
[00:13:45]  But in an America where, again, you're talking 50, 60, 70 million more people that very much so do not carry the heart and soul of America, they're not conservative in their beliefs, that person stands much less of a chance of ever being heard out.
[00:13:59]  And so the demographics, that core that you're looking at, and those 30, 40 million people being in, being out, I mean, that literally affects the avenues that you have.
[00:14:08]  To do things.
[00:14:09]  So I think that's huge.
[00:14:10]  Brad said in the chat, get rid of legal immigration.
[00:14:13]  It's fraud.
[00:14:13]  Well, great news, Brad.
[00:14:15]  A United States Senator, Eric Schmidt from Missouri, he's repeating that same line.
[00:14:19]  He was out today in a talk, just a very minor news point, out this week in a talk.
[00:14:23]  And he's like, guys, it's not just illegal immigration, it's not just the border.
[00:14:28]  No, it's legal immigration.
[00:14:30]  We're replacing American workers.
[00:14:31]  That's another way to tell you're winning.
[00:14:33]  Yeah, people don't get it.
[00:14:34]  Like, even in the chat right now.
[00:14:35]  So that was a great comment right above this.
[00:14:36]  Here's a comment right below.
[00:14:38]  A guy named Alan, he wrote in and said, Why do you keep saying immigrant?
[00:14:42]  What you should be saying is illegal.
[00:14:45]  Illegal.
[00:14:46]  The term is illegal immigrant.
[00:14:49]  Okay, Boomer.
[00:14:50]  That is the precise.
[00:14:52]  We're done with that.
[00:14:53]  We're done with that.
[00:14:54]  We've got a country to save, guys.
[00:14:56]  And we don't have time for your sensitive proclivities.
[00:15:01]  You've got to catch up to speed.
[00:15:02]  And if not, then we're just going to have to steamroll over you in the kindest way, most respectful way possible, of course.
[00:15:09]  But no, we have a country to save.
[00:15:11]  We are losing.
[00:15:13]  Our country, it's not just oh, you know what, um, you know, I mean, Elon said this a while back, you know, he's gotten a little bit better over the last couple, you know, recent months.
[00:15:21]  But you know, during the Christmas last year, him and Vivek, you know, tag teaming, and basically, as heritage Americans are celebrating the birth of our savior, they're like, hey, you know what, uh, you know, it would be great, let's interrupt your uh, your Christian celebration this Christmas and uh, and you know, and push for a bunch of H 1B visas, let's crash out in the most spectacular way possible.
[00:15:42]  And they used this tired old trope, and they said, We need to stop illegal immigration, but we need even more legal immigration.
[00:15:51]  No, we do not need more paperwork Americans.
[00:15:54]  Paperwork Americans are not American, right?
[00:15:58]  If you want to talk about, well, legal is fine.
[00:16:01]  Ilhan Omar is a legal citizen.
[00:16:04]  Not only that, she's actually a civil magistrate, but she's Somalian.
[00:16:09]  She worships foreign demon gods.
[00:16:12]  She married her brother temporarily in order to get that citizenship legally.
[00:16:17]  Legally, and her heart is for foreign gods and a foreign people.
[00:16:23]  She has said expressly multiple times that her devotion and what she's trying to do is to help Somalia, right?
[00:16:30]  To have be an outpost in America, a very rich, powerful country, in such a way that it benefits Somalia and to open the door for a bunch more Somalians to come here.
[00:16:41]  We don't need that kind of legal immigrant, it is still a net negative, massive net negative on our country.
[00:16:50]  So, it's not just stop illegal immigration, but let's have even more legal immigration.
[00:16:55]  No, stop it all.
[00:16:56]  It all has to stop.
[00:16:58]  Yep.
[00:16:59]  Now, thankfully, the church gets this.
[00:17:01]  The church understands grace does not abolish nature, that having a country, having natural relations, natural affections, it's a good thing.
[00:17:09]  You add grace on top of it and you elevate it.
[00:17:12]  No, the church doesn't get this at all.
[00:17:14]  And we're going to elevate.
[00:17:15]  I'm going to read this Blaze article.
[00:17:16]  It's not that long.
[00:17:17]  The church in America is quite literally retarded.
[00:17:20]  It's sad.
[00:17:21]  It's like in Egypt, Israel.
[00:17:23]  It's like, man, they're wandering through the wilderness.
[00:17:25]  And it's like, yeah.
[00:17:26]  And they deserved it.
[00:17:27]  Yes.
[00:17:27]  Like, how could they be here?
[00:17:28]  How could they be so rebellious?
[00:17:29]  And then you turn and look around.
[00:17:31]  And sometimes, of course, look at yourself.
[00:17:32]  You're like, oh my goodness, 10 years ago.
[00:17:35]  So glad the Lord is patient with me.
[00:17:36]  But then you also look at the church and you kind of get God's frustration with Israel.
[00:17:39]  Right.
[00:17:40]  First with yourself, but also to the church as well.
[00:17:41]  Yeah, we should be convicted ourselves.
[00:17:43]  But that said, we all have sin.
[00:17:45]  But there is a difference if you're 30 years old and saying, you know, I look at myself 10 years ago and, you know, and so I'm sympathetic to the person who's 70.
[00:17:53]  You know, it's like, okay, but you were saying these things 10 years ago.
[00:17:57]  They're still saying them today.
[00:17:58]  10 years ago for you, you were 20 years old.
[00:18:00]  10 years ago for them, they were still 60 and a grandfather who should know better.
[00:18:04]  Right.
[00:18:05]  There is a difference.
[00:18:06]  All right, so this is a story from Blaze Media.
[00:18:09]  Church joins persecution of Texas business owner who criticized H 1B visas.
[00:18:15]  Daniel Keene did not expect a post on X, formerly Twitter, to derail his life.
[00:18:19]  The small business owner posted a video of an Indian block party taking over an entire street of his North Texas suburb and expressed frustration at the rapid demographic and cultural changes sweeping through the large swaths of the greater Dallas Fort Worth metroplex.
[00:18:32]  For the record, in my neighborhood, exactly this has happened.
[00:18:35]  Sometimes I like to pull out, it'll be a Friday.
[00:18:37]  And there'll be 20, 30 Indians kind of gaggled all around at the end of a street.
[00:18:41]  The men will be wearing some type of like white dress or white robe, whatever it would be.
[00:18:45]  Dress is fun.
[00:18:47]  You're like, dress works.
[00:18:48]  I think you said it.
[00:18:48]  Just in the middle of our neighborhood.
[00:18:51]  And it's like, you want to roll down the windows like, oh, are we lost?
[00:18:54]  This is America.
[00:18:55]  We don't do this here.
[00:18:56]  And so he had actually posted a video of it.
[00:18:58]  And he said this We have to cancel the H 1Bs.
[00:19:02]  That's the H 1B skilled worker visa program.
[00:19:04]  I want my kids to grow up in America, not India.
[00:19:08]  Daniel wrote in the since deleted post.
[00:19:10]  That's the post.
[00:19:12]  Yeah, that's the post.
[00:19:14]  Super controversial.
[00:19:16]  I look at that and I'm like, if you're still taking offense over that, of course, Antifa, of course, leftists, of course, communists, of course, people who hate Christ and hate our country.
[00:19:28]  But Christian worship leaders, like celebrity Christian worship leaders who are now pastoring a church, hopping on the bandwagon as this man's being beaten down by the world and saying, We'll join in.
[00:19:40]  Join in on the side of Christ.
[00:19:41]  Nope.
[00:19:41]  Join in with the world and destroy a Christian brother.
[00:19:44]  And kick him while he's already down.
[00:19:46]  He's already hurt with his business, and we'll go ahead and add X communication on top of it.
[00:19:51]  Resign.
[00:19:52]  Listen to this.
[00:19:53]  So the post went viral on X, and all hell broke loose.
[00:19:56]  As previously reported by Blaze News, Keen and his family were subject to doxing and threats.
[00:20:00]  So this is people coming to your house.
[00:20:02]  This is people calling you.
[00:20:03]  I'm going to kill you and your family.
[00:20:04]  It's no joke.
[00:20:05]  His business was review bombed.
[00:20:07]  So the way he makes money to put food in his children's mouth, food on the table, review bombed.
[00:20:12]  Don't go to this coffee shop.
[00:20:13]  Don't go here.
[00:20:14]  This person's terrible.
[00:20:15]  For the record, it's like, oh, bad reviews.
[00:20:17]  Who cares?
[00:20:17]  No, that literally.
[00:20:19]  Can crush a business.
[00:20:20]  Yep.
[00:20:21]  Yeah.
[00:20:21]  So, like bombing a virtual bomb of reviews on someone's business is not much different than actually physically bombing their property.
[00:20:29]  Nope.
[00:20:30]  Someone claiming to have access to millions of Indian American contacts apparently tried to extort him for $20,000.
[00:20:36]  In other words, they said, I've got millions of people that will continue to make your life hell and you need to give me $20,000.
[00:20:43]  And relating to immigration, don't let it be lost.
[00:20:45]  These are people of a different ethnicity, a different race in America.
[00:20:50]  That they are ready, according to the scammer, they are ready to do work on him.
[00:20:54]  They're like, give us the word.
[00:20:55]  There's someone who doesn't want us here.
[00:20:56]  There's someone protesting our presence.
[00:20:59]  Tell us when, and we will destroy his business.
[00:21:01]  We will threaten him.
[00:21:02]  We will drive his family out.
[00:21:04]  You can't share a country with these people.
[00:21:06]  No, you can't.
[00:21:06]  Keen's business, Boundaries Coffee, if you're in Frisco, Texas, definitely go there, support him, continues to weather the storm, and Google has shut down reviews for the business, putting a stop to the lies, threats, and insults that had flooded in.
[00:21:16]  The backlash was not contained to Keen's professional life.

=== Church Elders Demand Mercy for Scammers (13:20) ===

[00:21:19]  In the midst of dealing with the attacks on his business, the owner of his gym, Decided to weigh in on the issue by revoking his membership.
[00:21:27]  So he's just a member at a CrossFit gym.
[00:21:28]  Yeah.
[00:21:29]  Owner comes in, he cancels it.
[00:21:30]  I'm not going to read all about that because that's not the point.
[00:21:33]  Even your gym is like, you know what?
[00:21:35]  Just your mere presence here, just touching, you know, walking around touching some of the weights.
[00:21:40]  Right.
[00:21:41]  It's going to, you know, we can't have those racist cooties in our gym.
[00:21:46]  Right.
[00:21:46]  You're gone.
[00:21:47]  CrossFit confirmed gay.
[00:21:49]  Many are saying.
[00:21:50]  CrossFit has always been gay, but yeah.
[00:21:51]  All right, here we go.
[00:21:53]  Things continued to get worse when Keen's church decided to interrogate him on his immigration stance.
[00:21:59]  The elders at the Trails Church called him about his initial post, telling him to repent and that the post was, get ready, you've never heard this one before, uncharitable.
[00:22:08]  Keen, who deleted the post shortly after it went viral due to the stress it was causing his family, did not disavow his position on immigration and the H 1B visa in particular.
[00:22:17]  Praise God for courage.
[00:22:18]  Church called him, rebuked him, tried to get him to stand back down.
[00:22:22]  He said, Nope, I'm not going to do it.
[00:22:23]  He reached out to me.
[00:22:25]  He seems like a good guy.
[00:22:27]  Praise God.
[00:22:27]  He looks like he loves the Lord.
[00:22:28]  Daniel said that's when the problems with the church really escalated.
[00:22:31]  Keen and his wife, who was eight months pregnant at the time.
[00:22:35]  So it's like, All right, your wife's about to give birth.
[00:22:38]  This could maybe wait.
[00:22:39]  We'll let it settle down.
[00:22:40]  We'll let you manage your business.
[00:22:41]  No.
[00:22:42]  Keen and his wife were called in for a meeting with all the elders and staff who could be there, he recalled.
[00:22:47]  This time they weren't just concerned about one post.
[00:22:49]  They just hammered me for hours, he said.
[00:22:51]  The elders had apparently gone through the last three years of Keen's ex account looking for problematic posts.
[00:22:56]  Keen said they brought up two posts they found, never heard this one before, concerning.
[00:23:02]  Keen described the meeting as confusing.
[00:23:04]  The goalpost got shifted significantly.
[00:23:07]  There's a lot of guys, that's what they'll say first you come in and, oh, we were concerned about this.
[00:23:11]  We just want this.
[00:23:12]  And then, well, we want this and this and this.
[00:23:16]  The goalpost got shifted significantly, he said.
[00:23:18]  Keen claimed he was unable to get a straight answer from the elders on the actual substance of his offense.
[00:23:23]  Many such cases.
[00:23:24]  On one hand, they are saying the issue is not the position itself, it's how I expressed it.
[00:23:29]  This is a tweet that's like two sentences, he said.
[00:23:32]  But then we've had three hours of phone calls, and they're just hammering me on the position itself.
[00:23:37]  Yep.
[00:23:37]  Keen requested that the elders put his offenses in writing to eliminate uncertainty, but they refused.
[00:23:43]  He expresses confusion to the elders about the nature of his supposed offense and what he was supposed to do about it.
[00:23:48]  And you referenced the leader of this church.
[00:23:50]  One of the pastors is Matt Boswell.
[00:23:52]  So, this is again the Trails Church up in Frisco, Texas.
[00:23:55]  Matt Boswell sings a really popular worship song, His Mercy Is More.
[00:24:00]  Turns out there's not a lot of mercy at his church.
[00:24:01]  But this is a song you for sure heard around.
[00:24:03]  Well, there's mercy for sodomites, there's mercy for those who are pressuring and trying to trans children, there's mercy for pedophiles, right?
[00:24:13]  There's mercy for those people.
[00:24:15]  There's not mercy for a conservative traditional Christian brother who believes everything that everyone always believed until about 50 years ago.
[00:24:25]  That's where there's not a single ounce of mercy.
[00:24:27]  And speaking, here's the deal it's like, oh, but if we did that, then the left would do this.
[00:24:32]  So we can't, you know, we can't stoop to the same level.
[00:24:35]  Actually, yes, we can and we must.
[00:24:38]  This church, what's the name of the church again?
[00:24:40]  Trails Church.
[00:24:41]  Trails Church.
[00:24:42]  It needs to be review bombed.
[00:24:44]  Faithful.
[00:24:45]  Conservative biblical Christians, we should have hundreds, if not thousands, of reviews.
[00:24:50]  And as a loving warning, because there are Christians in different places always looking for a new church.
[00:24:57]  Every single Christian in their town and surrounding area should know this is a pathetic, ungodly, unchrist like, scripture hating church.
[00:25:08]  They despise courage, they despise tradition.
[00:25:12]  They will, if you are an inch to the right of a blue haired leftist, they will crush you, crush your wife, crush your children.
[00:25:20]  No one should ever attend that church again.
[00:25:23]  It should be review bombed.
[00:25:24]  And the pastor, his music should be boycotted.
[00:25:27]  If you have his music, you should throw it out.
[00:25:31]  We must teach people a lesson.
[00:25:33]  That's how the left won.
[00:25:35]  They won over the course of 40 decades by applying not just legal, eventually it became legal, but first it was cultural pressure.
[00:25:43]  Don't you dare say that.
[00:25:45]  That's racist.
[00:25:45]  Don't you dare say that.
[00:25:46]  It's bigoted.
[00:25:47]  Don't you dare say that.
[00:25:48]  It's insensitive.
[00:25:49]  And they used cultural pressure to make people feel as though they were mean, as though they weren't being kind.
[00:25:59]  And little by little by little, they pushed Christians into the margins.
[00:26:04]  That's how the left won.
[00:26:05]  And if you want, The culture of our country here in America to be a Christian country where your children, where you feel safe as a parent, for your children to go play outside and to like the way that we grew up, where they can ride bikes with their friends in the neighborhood, not have to worry about monsters doing terrible, unspeakable things.
[00:26:27]  Uh, where they can go to your downtown and go shopping without a million different rainbow flags and all the propaganda indoctrinating your children, where you can go out safely in public.
[00:26:39]  If you want that, you have to pressure.
[00:26:41]  You need to pressure the left, but you certainly, as a Christian, should pressure churches that are siding with the left.
[00:26:49]  This Trails Church in Frisco, Texas, Frisco, Texas, Frisco, Texas, uh, needs to learn a lesson.
[00:26:57]  They need to come to a point where they absolutely, um, are trembling at the memory of the day that they made this decision.
[00:27:07]  Um, they should all those elders who side with this should resign in disgrace.
[00:27:12]  Immense pressure must be applied.
[00:27:15]  So remember, the elders wouldn't put in writing what his offense was.
[00:27:18]  They harassed him for hours.
[00:27:20]  According to Keen, they wanted him to apologize for his original post showing the Indian Bloc Party on his street and abandon his position on Indian immigration.
[00:27:27]  While he respected their right to disagree with him, Keen told Blaze News he did not think apologizing for the post was appropriate.
[00:27:35]  Praise God.
[00:27:36]  As far as the content, I stand behind it.
[00:27:38]  That's the policy position I stand behind.
[00:27:40]  When asked how serious the offense was, the elders of the church told Keen he was on the path of discipline.
[00:27:45]  Meaning he could be removed from membership if he continued on his present course, he explained.
[00:27:49]  Keene described the removal process as a very serious step in a Baptist church.
[00:27:53]  They're basically saying, we don't think you're a Christian anymore because you haven't repented of sin, he said.
[00:27:59]  Keene left the meeting still confused shortly after a friend sent him an episode of the King's Hall podcast discussing immigration and H 1B visas.
[00:28:05]  Keene found the episode insightful and posted a clip of it along with the following questions.
[00:28:09]  What would get you in more trouble at your church?
[00:28:11]  Significant doctrinal error on the Trinity or opposing immigration to the harm of your neighbor?
[00:28:16]  Keene said he knew the post would upset the church elders.
[00:28:19]  He did try to reach out privately at first just to say, Hey, hear me out on this.
[00:28:23]  After he posted the clip, the elders asked him to come in with his wife for another meeting, he claimed.
[00:28:27]  Keene said he declined to bring his wife.
[00:28:29]  Good man.
[00:28:30]  Why would you need to meet with my wife?
[00:28:31]  What does my wife have to do with this? he wondered.
[00:28:33]  When he got to the meeting, the elders formally asked Keene to leave the church.
[00:28:36]  Keene suspected he would be asked to leave and that posting the podcast clip almost guaranteed it.
[00:28:41]  I knew I was poking the bear a little bit, he acknowledged.
[00:28:43]  Still, Keene says he does not regret posting the clip or maintaining his position on immigration.
[00:28:48]  I'm trying to draw out the real issue here, he said.
[00:28:50]  What are the values of the church?
[00:28:51]  Are they doctrinal, spiritual, or is it public policy with regards to immigration?
[00:28:56]  The Trails Church did not respond to a request for comment from Blaze News.
[00:29:01]  So there you have it.
[00:29:02]  A good man holding a Christian, thoroughly Christian position on public policy, kicked out of his church with his family in the course of this is not something like over six months.
[00:29:14]  They met with him, they counseled, they put in writing.
[00:29:17]  No, in the space of, I think, less than two weeks.
[00:29:20]  Bottle to throttle all the way.
[00:29:22]  You're kicked out of the church.
[00:29:23]  So sorry about your business.
[00:29:24]  You probably struggle to feed your kids.
[00:29:26]  Oh, the community doesn't like you.
[00:29:28]  Oh, you're in danger.
[00:29:29]  Tough luck.
[00:29:30]  And also, get the heck out of here.
[00:29:32]  Right.
[00:29:33]  Your business is being crushed.
[00:29:35]  It's your livelihood, the way that you feed your family, your kids.
[00:29:38]  In addition, you're getting death threats.
[00:29:40]  And so, your physical, not just your livelihood, but also your life itself is in danger the life of your wife, the life of your kids.
[00:29:48]  Sounds like you're going through a really hard time.
[00:29:50]  Let's go ahead and excommunicate you.
[00:29:53]  These are wicked, wicked men.
[00:29:56]  Every single elder at that church who sided with this decision is a wicked man.
[00:30:02]  And it needs to be talked about, it needs to come to the point.
[00:30:05]  Where it would become unthinkable, but that every other limp wristed, you know, every other limp wristed pastor and church in America, that they would hear a bunch of people podcasting and tweeting and saying the things that we're saying right now to the point that they would be terrified to make that kind of decision.
[00:30:25]  That's how you pressure people.
[00:30:26]  You have to scare them.
[00:30:27]  Are you looking at Daniel King?
[00:30:29]  Yep.
[00:30:30]  We've got him here.
[00:30:30]  He's in the chat.
[00:30:31]  Yeah, Daniel, thanks for jumping in.
[00:30:33]  We appreciate it.
[00:30:34]  If there's anything you want to say, just put it in the chat and we'll read it on the episode.
[00:30:39]  We'd be happy to do it.
[00:30:40]  Honored for you to tune in and really proud of you, man.
[00:30:44]  Really proud of you for standing your ground.
[00:30:46]  And just for the record, I don't know if you even think this, you probably don't need to hear it from me, but deleting the tweet is not an L, it's not a mistake, right?
[00:30:55]  You're a husband, you're a father, you're getting death threats, your business is being crushed.
[00:30:59]  So to say, look, I need to simply be shrewd, be wise, and make some of this stop, to delete the tweet so that some of the fire dies down.
[00:31:12]  But to still do the right thing when questioned by others, especially for public articles like Blaze and things like that.
[00:31:18]  And with your elders, of course, with all the meetings and all the struggle sessions, in terms of your position itself, to still hold the line.
[00:31:25]  And it seems very clear that you did that.
[00:31:26]  So I'm deleting the tweet because I need my business to survive and I need to physically survive with the death threats and things like that.
[00:31:34]  But my position is not changing.
[00:31:35]  And anyone who asks, I'm going to make it clear that I'm not backing down my position.
[00:31:40]  I just want you to know that that is perfectly.
[00:31:42]  Perfectly permissible, perfectly reasonable.
[00:31:46]  I may, you know, I usually leave the tweet up because I kind of get a little bit of a kick out of just enraging.
[00:31:53]  Like I do a little post.
[00:31:55]  Houston Chronicles is going to be writing an article about you, Joel.
[00:31:59]  You should delete the tweet.
[00:32:01]  I think I'll leave the tweet and tweet a few more.
[00:32:03]  But that said, I also don't own a business that's getting bombed by reviews.
[00:32:08]  It's different, right?
[00:32:09]  I'm able to do what I'm able to do because of the generous, Support and prayers and love of all the listeners with Right Response Ministries.
[00:32:17]  And so, if I was in a different position, I would probably do the same thing.
[00:32:20]  But, way to go deleting the tweet, but holding to your position.
[00:32:25]  Really, really impressed by that.
[00:32:27]  And we're honored that you tuned in today.
[00:32:29]  Thanks.
[00:32:29]  And I will say this and then we'll close the segment out.
[00:32:32]  This is far from the only case.
[00:32:33]  So, it's not as though this is being highlighted because for the first time in 20 years, a Christian church, supposedly Christian church, has excommunicated a faithful man.
[00:32:42]  For being one step to the right.
[00:32:44]  This is honestly going on probably all over the nation.
[00:32:46]  I think between me and you, Joel, we could name just real names of real churches.
[00:32:50]  Probably over 100 guys.
[00:32:52]  I got kicked out here.
[00:32:53]  I got struggle sessions here.
[00:32:54]  I got asked to leave here.
[00:32:55]  And all of them being similar cases to this.
[00:32:58]  Yep.
[00:32:59]  So we're not talking about, oh man, there's an epidemic of a bunch of guys who are being kicked out because they said that every black person in America should be killed.
[00:33:10]  No.
[00:33:10]  We're not talking about that.
[00:33:12]  Right?
[00:33:12]  Like, that's not what we're talking about, guys who are saying, well, according to the FBI, the statistics for crime, it is important to recognize that per capita, it's not equal.
[00:33:25]  That there is minorities, particularly black people, are more per capita, not each and every individual, but per capita, more violent.
[00:33:34]  And that's something that we should probably be aware of.
[00:33:37]  Or our country is being eroded in its demographics, it's changing the culture, it's changing the religion of our country.
[00:33:43]  We don't need a bunch of Indians on H 1B visas, or it's those kinds of things, or even a simple statement like, it's okay to be white, right?
[00:33:51]  The ADL literally labeled it's okay to be white, that phrase, that statement, as hate speech.
[00:33:57]  But here's the thing you expect that from the Jewish Christ hating ADL.
[00:34:03]  But then you have reformed churches, not just, I'm not talking about Joel Osteen's church or Stephen Ford, and they will crack down on someone because they made a video.
[00:34:15]  Showcasing and esteeming European heritage.
[00:34:18]  We're saying that it's good to be white or it's okay to be white.
[00:34:22]  So, Wes is not exaggerating.
[00:34:24]  I'm sure there's probably thousands of cases, but there's at least 100 that you and I personally know of.
[00:34:30]  Right.
[00:34:30]  Personally know of just in the last maybe year, year and a half.
[00:34:33]  Incredible.
[00:34:34]  Let's hit our first commercial break and we'll be back to talk more church and talk more politics.
[00:34:38]  All right.

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[00:37:00]  Joel, did you know that while me and you and all faithful Christians believe in the Trinity, one God, three persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, did you know that's actually very similar to Hinduism, in which it's a few more?

=== Trinity Beliefs Compared to Hinduism (15:46) ===

[00:37:11]  All right, so somewhere in the 300 million range, right?
[00:37:15]  Yeah, yeah, but it's still monotheism.
[00:37:17]  We believe in the Trinity, they believe kind of similar, so it's not three persons, there's 300 million persons.
[00:37:23]  I thought it was it sounds very similar to me.
[00:37:24]  I thought it was three million.
[00:37:25]  I mean, does that in the cold open it's 300 million?
[00:37:28]  I literally don't like there's different at a certain point.
[00:37:30]  It's like they're all syncretic as in they blend together, like that's what people don't get it.
[00:37:34]  Like, Christianity, if anyone's tried to read the Quran, it is slop.
[00:37:38]  There is no systematic theology of the Quran where you're able to actually take the doctrines espoused and fit them together so they're non contradictory.
[00:37:46]  It's like take the Psalms, put them in a terrible language, Arabic, and then badly translate them out.
[00:37:53]  Well, in the case of the Quran, you have 40 human authors over the course of 1,500 years, divinely inspired by the Holy Spirit.
[00:38:00]  In the case of the Quran, you have one human author, no divine inspiration, and that one human happens to be a pedophilic goat herder.
[00:38:10]  So it's like, it kind of checks out.
[00:38:12]  It's like, hey, this is really bad writing.
[00:38:15]  Like, who wrote this?
[00:38:17]  A goat herder who had a seven year old wife.
[00:38:20]  Oh, okay, okay.
[00:38:21]  My favorite tweet is so I'm as a Christian supposed to believe that Awa is the true God.
[00:38:25]  And he watched Christianity conquer the world for 600 years.
[00:38:28]  And he's like, All right, I'm going to do it.
[00:38:30]  I'm going to speak.
[00:38:31]  And he chooses just a 54 year old nerd, a retard, and a pedophile.
[00:38:36]  And he's like, This is my guy.
[00:38:38]  This is my prophet.
[00:38:39]  Like that was his grand plan.
[00:38:40]  He's like, All right, Christianity's winning.
[00:38:43]  I got to do something.
[00:38:44]  I've got my guy.
[00:38:45]  Yeah.
[00:38:46]  So, I'm speaking of Vivek Ramaswamy.
[00:38:48]  Darling, honestly, a year and a half ago, there were a lot of young guys.
[00:38:52]  They're like, Vivek is it.
[00:38:53]  They're like, sure, don't like the Hindu part, but he's doing good things on taxes and being able to afford a home.
[00:38:59]  And hey, he says God is real and there's two genders.
[00:39:03]  I'm thinking this is our guy.
[00:39:04]  Chat, are we back?
[00:39:06]  Yeah.
[00:39:08]  We've got an Indian man who scammed a bunch of people in the pharmaceutical world who worships 300 million Hindu demon gods.
[00:39:17]  But he says he likes the Declaration of Independence.
[00:39:20]  Chat, are we back?
[00:39:22]  You're not exaggerating about the scamming.
[00:39:24]  The way Vivek was able to afford to run for president, to garner all the media attention, was that he founded a biosciences, a biotech startup called Roviant Biosciences.
[00:39:34]  And he took an Alzheimer's drug.
[00:39:36]  The way these things work is nobody knows if a drug is going to have clinical usefulness.
[00:39:40]  You can test it, but there's no guarantee that it'll actually solve Alzheimer's or solve this disease or solve that disease.
[00:39:46]  So every drug is just basically you pour millions of dollars into it, and you've got like, honestly, like a 10% chance that actually gets approved.
[00:39:53]  So, he takes his biosciences company, he buys a failed Alzheimer's drug, and he hypes it up using his mom, among other things, and has this big IPO.
[00:40:01]  So, you've got this company with a promising first drug.
[00:40:04]  Hey, if this passes clinical trials, this could be the first drug to treat Alzheimer's.
[00:40:07]  And think of the revenue.
[00:40:09]  So, he has this big public offering, it's publicly owned.
[00:40:12]  And of course, the drug fails.
[00:40:13]  He himself, though, now a millionaire, and uses that to launch into a political career.
[00:40:18]  And in a very Indian way, he can kind of, you know, sticks his finger in the wind.
[00:40:22]  Okay, where's the wind going?
[00:40:23]  He detected about 2020, 2021.
[00:40:26]  He said, Hey, the woke is kind of going away, right?
[00:40:30]  Like, it's being put away.
[00:40:31]  It's not really popular anymore.
[00:40:33]  I can kind of see the culture is shifting.
[00:40:35]  As we hopped on board, he wrote a book, anti, I think he called it like woke capitalism or whatever, grifted his way to about 8% of the primary vote in Iowa, realized he was never going to make it, dropped out.
[00:40:47]  But he used that.
[00:40:47]  The point is, well, why does that matter?
[00:40:49]  Okay, Indians scammed someone, must be a day that ends in Y. He's used that to launch to a bid for governor in Ohio.
[00:40:57]  Here he is at a town hall.
[00:40:58]  This is from, I can't remember if it was from farther back, but the clip just came out this week or it was just this week, where he answers a question from a Christian.
[00:41:07]  Different Christians were actually asking him, There's a young man named Jeremy Carl, Hey, you're a Hindu.
[00:41:13]  America was not a Hindu country.
[00:41:14]  It's not a Muslim country.
[00:41:15]  It's not a Jewish country.
[00:41:16]  America was a Christian country.
[00:41:18]  And it's made up still primarily of Christians.
[00:41:21]  So why do you, as a Hindu, what makes you qualified to be our governor?
[00:41:27]  This is our religion.
[00:41:28]  Not this.
[00:41:29]  And listen to his answer when someone presses him on that.
[00:41:31]  You're a Hindu, not a Christian like us.
[00:41:35]  Now, let me just ask you, because I know that may be a hard thing to process.
[00:41:39]  What's your faith?
[00:41:40]  I'm a Christian.
[00:41:41]  I'm a follower of Jesus.
[00:41:42]  Great.
[00:41:43]  Do you believe in the Holy Trinity?
[00:41:47]  The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?
[00:41:49]  I think a lot of people here do.
[00:41:51]  Good.
[00:41:52]  And that doesn't make you a polytheist, does it?
[00:41:55]  Probably not, no?
[00:41:55]  Great.
[00:41:55]  Because I think this is one of the great spiritual questions.
[00:41:58]  There's good dialogue here.
[00:41:59]  Is every religion has its.
[00:42:02]  Reconciling of the one and the many.
[00:42:05]  And so, in my faith, I believe there's one true God.
[00:42:08]  He resides in all of us.
[00:42:11]  So, I picked that clip.
[00:42:13]  There's a longer, like, five minute clip out there.
[00:42:15]  I didn't want to subject you guys to it, honestly.
[00:42:17]  I didn't want to sit here for five minutes, first to listen to it and then to listen to it again.
[00:42:21]  I didn't want you to have that.
[00:42:22]  But elsewhere, he says, I'm ethically a monotheist.
[00:42:25]  He kind of tries to do this thing.
[00:42:26]  He says, Look, God, sure, the one and the many.
[00:42:29]  Now, I don't know about you, like, my family, like, we have four people in it.
[00:42:32]  So, we're one family with my last name.
[00:42:35]  But then there's also multiple people within that.
[00:42:37]  I feel like that's a little bit different than one family, 300 million people.
[00:42:42]  How about you?
[00:42:43]  Yeah, that's quite different.
[00:42:45]  Yeah, he just doesn't know what he's talking about.
[00:42:48]  Vivek doesn't understand historic Christianity.
[00:42:50]  He doesn't understand theology proper, doctrine of God.
[00:42:54]  He doesn't understand any of these things.
[00:42:56]  He doesn't understand that our God is a most pure spirit without body parts and passions.
[00:43:01]  We believe in divine simplicity.
[00:43:03]  We believe in divine impassibility.
[00:43:05]  We believe that God is one in essence and eternally three.
[00:43:10]  He doesn't understand the processions of the Trinity.
[00:43:12]  He doesn't know what he's talking about.
[00:43:14]  All this has been outlined not recently.
[00:43:17]  All these things have been outlined going back to the second, third, fourth century.
[00:43:24]  And this is basic Christian doctrine.
[00:43:26]  Basic Christian doctrine.
[00:43:27]  Now, there was a time where people fought over it Arius versus Athanasius and these kinds of things.
[00:43:32]  But this was settled very, very early on within the first couple hundred years of the start of Christianity and has been settled dogma for, you know, 1800, 1700 years now, it's not the same.
[00:43:49]  So to say, hey, hi, fellow Americans, hi, fellow Christians, I'm just like you.
[00:43:54]  You see my boot and Texas jacket?
[00:43:56]  Pretty cool, huh?
[00:43:57]  I'm just like you.
[00:43:58]  Look, I'm going to the rodeo.
[00:44:00]  I believe that there's one God inside of all of us.
[00:44:03]  No, you don't.
[00:44:05]  But what he's doing, I mean, politics really is kind of perfect for Vivek because he's an Indian scammer.
[00:44:11]  And so he's like, hey, you know, I did some scamming when it came to Alzheimer's, you know, and pharmaceuticals.
[00:44:17]  Now, let's do some scamming as I run for political office.
[00:44:22]  But at a certain point, heritage Americans and Christian Americans, more importantly, need to stand up and say, Go home to Ohio.
[00:44:31]  No, go home.
[00:44:34]  Yep.
[00:44:34]  With lots of other people who worship 300 million gods.
[00:44:37]  People just like you.
[00:44:38]  And if you want to watch the full, so again, I mentioned a young man.
[00:44:40]  This wasn't him in the clip, but he did a great job interrogating him more at length.
[00:44:44]  Jeremy Carl, spelled with a C, so C A R L. Just search Jeremy Carl Vivek.
[00:44:49]  It's been going viral.
[00:44:51]  And so, I think speaking of people that don't understand theology.
[00:44:54]  Let me just say, I got to give Jeremy a shout out.
[00:44:57]  He reached out to me personally as well the last couple of days, and he's an avid listener to Write Response.
[00:45:02]  He follows the show, listens.
[00:45:04]  Jeremy Carl is our guy.
[00:45:06]  And just for the record, there are two Jeremy Carl's, so it gets a little bit confusing.
[00:45:09]  So, there's Jeremy Carl, who wrote The Unprotected Class and did a really good job in terms of keeping all the receipts and different things from universities to litigation and laws.
[00:45:23]  And the way that white people actually have been discriminated against on the books, not just culturally, but on the books from universities to lawfare to these kinds of things.
[00:45:35]  Jeremy Carl did a really great job writing that book.
[00:45:37]  But that's an older Jeremy Carl who is the author of The Unprotected Class in reference to whites, talking about anti white hatred.
[00:45:47]  But this is a Jeremy Carl who looks like he couldn't be more than 18, 19 years old.
[00:45:52]  He's a young man.
[00:45:53]  Yep.
[00:45:54]  But he's Christian.
[00:45:54]  He loves Jesus.
[00:45:56]  He's right wing and he has courage.
[00:45:58]  God bless him.
[00:45:59]  And he just exposed in many ways Vec is not compatible.
[00:46:02]  And we'll see.
[00:46:03]  He'll probably win governorship, but it's building up, hopefully, a base of people to say, you know, two years ago, I thought this guy was great.
[00:46:11]  Oh, yeah, we need to get rid of the woke.
[00:46:12]  You're right.
[00:46:13]  There's two genders to build up to say, wait a second.
[00:46:16]  Sure, all of that is true.
[00:46:17]  And also, you're not a Christian.
[00:46:19]  This is a Christian nation.
[00:46:21]  This is a European nation.
[00:46:22]  You just, this is not you.
[00:46:24]  It's not your country.
[00:46:24]  You should be our governor.
[00:46:25]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:46:26]  So I think part of it is, you know, A lot of people were excited when Vivek was in the primaries and those kinds of things.
[00:46:33]  And I took a fairly strong stance against it because he's Indian and Hindu.
[00:46:38]  And so I was like, no, that's just not a good fit.
[00:46:41]  I remember one of the arguments that I made people saying, yeah, like Christians, good brothers, and saying, yeah, he may be Indian and Hindu, but he's good on these policies and he has traditional values and blah, And I remember saying, look, This is Pandora's box.
[00:47:01]  It's the same thing as a woman president, right?
[00:47:03]  So it's like, you know, one day, God forbid, I hope it doesn't happen, but one day we may come to a place where you finally come down to two candidates, right?
[00:47:13]  The Dim and the Republican.
[00:47:16]  And one of them is like a Gavin Newsom sort, you know, who's just atrocious, just an absolute liberal, you know, communist monster.
[00:47:25]  And then the other one is like a Sarah Palin type, you know.
[00:47:29]  And here's the thing I understand that that will be a difficult decision.
[00:47:33]  It was easier with Vivek.
[00:47:34]  For me back at the time, because it wasn't down to the final two.
[00:47:39]  And there were better candidates that could get the Republican ticket.
[00:47:44]  But my point is the moment that we vote and actually elect a woman as president, and I could see that being the scenario, it's like conservative woman or progressive man.
[00:47:57]  And in that scenario, I know.
[00:47:59]  But in that scenario, I would be very sympathetic.
[00:48:02]  So I'm not even saying that I wouldn't understand why I would, in that scenario, I would likely just abstain to vote.
[00:48:09]  I just want to vote.
[00:48:10]  But I would understand why some would vote for the conservative woman saying, yes, while articulating, I wish that it was a man.
[00:48:17]  I wish that it wasn't a woman.
[00:48:19]  But here would be my fear you get a good woman, a good woman breaks the glass ceiling as the first woman president of the United States.
[00:48:26]  But once that glass ceiling is broken, I view it as like Pandora's box, then what you'll get is a dozen Jezebels following up.
[00:48:36]  And that was kind of part of my thing with Vivek, was.
[00:48:41]  This is a concept that's hard for people to understand because they'll say, Joe Biden's not a Christian.
[00:48:45]  Of course, he's not a Christian.
[00:48:47]  Joe Biden loves the blood of unborn babies.
[00:48:50]  Joe Biden is an avid, avid abortion supporter.
[00:48:54]  Joe Biden can say he's Catholic all day long.
[00:48:57]  I don't care.
[00:48:58]  Joe Biden is not a Christian.
[00:49:02]  And yet, this is hard for true Christians to grasp.
[00:49:05]  And I get it because we want purity of both life and doctrine.
[00:49:10]  And Joe Biden doesn't have either.
[00:49:12]  However, even the case of Joe Biden, it's not a coincidence that every single president that we've had in the history of our country, thus far, from the very beginning, for 250 years, has at least professed Christ.
[00:49:26]  Now, that doesn't mean they've all been actual Christians, that they've all been regenerate.
[00:49:29]  Of course not.
[00:49:30]  Of course not.
[00:49:32]  But the fact that all of them profess Christ, so just like they've all been men, but you get one good woman, but it opens the box.
[00:49:39]  For now, that bridge has been crossed, and now you have a bunch of it becomes normal.
[00:49:46]  Likewise, If you bridge the gap on, oh, we're now going to have an Indian man, it'd be two bridges in that case.
[00:49:54]  So, not just a woman, but you'd have a man who is not heritage American.
[00:49:58]  He's Indian.
[00:50:00]  And you'd also have a man who doesn't profess to be a Christian.
[00:50:03]  He's Hindu.
[00:50:04]  And so, to open that door, Pandora's box, for the first time in 250 years, I don't care what he says against wokeness, it's not worth it.
[00:50:15]  It's not worth it.
[00:50:16]  So, that's why I was against it a year and a half ago.
[00:50:19]  I understand why some people were for it.
[00:50:22]  But I feel like we dodged a major bullet.
[00:50:25]  I do not think America dodged the bullet.
[00:50:27]  I don't think that Ohio will.
[00:50:29]  You know who did not dodge a bullet?
[00:50:32]  Going into our final story, and then we'll get to some of the super chats.
[00:50:35]  This was another big story from the week.
[00:50:36]  So, Portland and Chicago, there have been a number of demonstrations against ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
[00:50:43]  We've seen, of course, clashes of rioters.
[00:50:46]  This happened in LA.
[00:50:48]  And there's an iconic image, and you'll see it here on your screen.
[00:50:51]  I'll describe it for if you're listening.
[00:50:52]  Where you have a pastor in Presbyterian garb.
[00:50:55]  He has a clerical collar on.
[00:50:56]  He's wearing black pants, black shirt, and he's with the sign that's demonstrating against ICE.
[00:51:02]  You have on the left side here, you have United States domestic soldiers.
[00:51:06]  He's doing the dab.
[00:51:06]  You have your military.
[00:51:07]  He's what?
[00:51:08]  He's doing a dab.
[00:51:09]  Yep.
[00:51:09]  He's doing a dab.
[00:51:11]  He's actually getting shot in the face with a pepper spray.
[00:51:15]  It's either a pepper bomb or a pepper spray.
[00:51:17]  And there's a lot of outcry.
[00:51:19]  I cannot believe this.
[00:51:20]  Like, look at this.
[00:51:21]  You have here in Trump's America.
[00:51:23]  I had a little bit of personal outcry.
[00:51:25]  I was like, I cannot believe that they only use pepper spray.
[00:51:30]  Gassing pastors.
[00:51:32]  America, what have you become?
[00:51:33]  And just for some context, so this is again from Chicago.
[00:51:37]  He is the pastor of a PCUSA church.
[00:51:40]  So this is not the, I struggle to say conservative, but the PCA would be the more conservative of the two.
[00:51:46]  And then you have the PCUSA, which has been fully progressive for about 40 years at this point.
[00:51:50]  So he's pastor of First Presbyterian Chicago, which is a tragedy.
[00:51:54]  Like that church was, I'm sure, originally a solid, faithful, Protestant Presbyterian church that is now fully affirming of LGBTQ.
[00:52:03]  This is from their website.
[00:52:05]  Everyone reflects the image of God, no exceptions.
[00:52:08]  For us, inclusion means loving everyone because of who they are, not despite it.
[00:52:11]  We welcome everyone to full and equal participation in the church, embracing people of all races, cultures, abilities, sexual orientation, and genders.
[00:52:21]  So, this is not a pastor who he's got, you know, like someone in his congregation he cares about, and he's like, Look, I understand.
[00:52:30]  I'll go out and help you out.
[00:52:33]  No, this is a fully affirming.
[00:52:36]  Spiritually, if not literally, gay man wearing the vestments, wearing the garb pertaining to a pastor of a Protestant historic church in America, marching against, fighting against God's servant for justice.
[00:52:52]  That's right.
[00:52:53]  And he resultingly got hit in the face with some pepper spray.

=== State Rebukes Faithful Churches in 2025 (08:26) ===

[00:52:58]  God bless.
[00:52:58]  Nine months ago, right here in this room, we told you hey, the state, there's going to come times, it's happened before, it'll happen again.
[00:53:05]  The state has a role when the church steps badly out of line.
[00:53:09]  To come in and correct it.
[00:53:10]  That's right.
[00:53:11]  I do not mean soldiers get up.
[00:53:12]  All right, we're distributing the Lord's Supper.
[00:53:14]  That's not what we're talking about.
[00:53:16]  The reformers spoke of this.
[00:53:18]  We're not talking about the elements of worship.
[00:53:20]  The clergy cannot make arrests.
[00:53:22]  Nope.
[00:53:22]  And the civil magistrate cannot administer the sacrament or preach on the Lord's Day.
[00:53:28]  That's not what we're talking about.
[00:53:30]  However, Francis Turreton, I almost have the quote memorized from Stephen Wolfe's The Case for Christian Nationalism.
[00:53:36]  When worship degrades, the Christian prince, he says, should reform it.
[00:53:39]  When the external parts of worship, pride flags, are flying out front, Women are standing behind pulpits.
[00:53:45]  Churches affirm gay lifestyles.
[00:53:48]  When that happens over and over again, we did multiple episodes on this.
[00:53:51]  Yep.
[00:53:52]  Over and over again in history, the tool that God has used to get the church back in line and to knock it off has been the state coming in and using their force to say, cut it out.
[00:54:02]  That's right.
[00:54:03]  And when we did those episodes at the time, it was this very pastor in that picture who was actually doing podcasts, slandering us and telling us that we were heretical and out of line, right?
[00:54:16]  Oh, wait, that was James White.
[00:54:18]  Oh.
[00:54:18]  My bad.
[00:54:18]  Never mind.
[00:54:20]  Guess y'all weren't ready for it then.
[00:54:21]  Yeah, they weren't ready.
[00:54:23]  You don't like this, but your kids are going to love it.
[00:54:25]  It's one of those situations.
[00:54:26]  So that's, I mean, like you have to, these guys are not our allies.
[00:54:30]  Oh, my goodness.
[00:54:31]  Well, it's a Presbyterian and it's this.
[00:54:32]  No, no, no.
[00:54:33]  You have got to understand where the battle lines have fallen.
[00:54:36]  And in this case, I mean, you're literally talking about a biblically ordained office deacon, servant of justice.
[00:54:42]  And he's going out and doing the Lord's work, rounding up.
[00:54:47]  Criminals.
[00:54:47]  And you're going to have Christians, and for whatever reason, whatever madness has taken them over, they're going to say, I'm going to stand on the opposite side of that and I'm going to oppose it.
[00:54:58]  And when this happens, you have no duty, no requirement to mourn, to hand wring.
[00:55:04]  Oh my goodness, how could this be?
[00:55:07]  He deserved it.
[00:55:08]  Hopefully, he learns his lesson by God's grace.
[00:55:10]  Yeah, hopefully, he repents.
[00:55:12]  I doubt he's probably going to, after this, feel like a victim and feel even more justified and dig his heels in.
[00:55:18]  But.
[00:55:19]  I think I said it on Wednesday, but I'm going to say it again because we might have some new listeners for this episode.
[00:55:24]  I really do think, and I don't say this with any joy or glib or anything like that.
[00:55:28]  It's with a heavy heart, and it's deeply tragic that what I'm about to say is something that I actually believe is true.
[00:55:34]  I would say that the church as a whole in these United States of America right now, in the year of our Lord 2025, is actually more derailed from orthodoxy, faithfulness, and traditional scripture than the civil magistrate.
[00:55:52]  I actually believe, and I. You guys know we've had plenty of criticisms for Donald J. Trump.
[00:55:59]  Donald J. Trump, I mean, let's be honest, he's a 1990s liberal Democrat.
[00:56:03]  He is a massive Zionist, and I am not a fan of that whatsoever.
[00:56:09]  And yet, he's done a lot of good, for which we're grateful.
[00:56:15]  And Trump's administration, the Trump administration in 2025, on the whole, if we're looking at an average, the Trump administration in 2025, I think, is more aligned.
[00:56:27]  With traditional principles from the Bible than the average American church.
[00:56:33]  And you might say, Joel, that, how dare you say that?
[00:56:36]  Look, you're thinking of maybe your Reformed church.
[00:56:40]  Well, one, I've got news.
[00:56:42]  A lot of Reformed churches suck.
[00:56:45]  They suck.
[00:56:46]  Okay.
[00:56:46]  Secondly, though, let's just say they all are faithful, all the Reformed churches.
[00:56:50]  Okay, great.
[00:56:51]  Then about one to 2% of the church in America is faithful.
[00:56:56]  You forget, we forget how small.
[00:56:59]  How much of a sliver the Reformed tradition actually represents in the church in America at large.
[00:57:07]  You take all the Reformed churches in America, even with them, it's not that they're all faithful.
[00:57:13]  That would include PCUSA, right?
[00:57:16]  That would include, there'd be a lot of unfaithful, you could splice it with one ish mainlines.
[00:57:21]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:57:21]  But if you're just saying Reformed tradition, right, you share that with some mainline guys, okay?
[00:57:28]  But if you're saying just the faithful ones, right, so cut the PCUSA out.
[00:57:32]  PCA, it's OPC, it's some Reformed Baptists, you know, things like that.
[00:57:37]  Then again, you're talking like one, two, maybe 3% of all the churches in America.
[00:57:42]  You could just take Joel Osteen's church, John Hagee's church, Kenneth Copeland's church, T.D. Jake's church, and Stephen Furtick's church.
[00:57:50]  You could take those five churches and combine them, and it would probably be about the size of the PCA, the entire denomination, just those five churches.
[00:58:00]  So my point is this I'm not saying there are no faithful churches.
[00:58:05]  Don't hear that.
[00:58:06]  There are faithful churches.
[00:58:07]  And by God's grace, I think there are hundreds.
[00:58:10]  There are dozens of us, dozens.
[00:58:11]  I think there might actually be hundreds of faithful churches left here in America as a faithful gospel witness.
[00:58:18]  But on the whole, if we look at faithful churches in America, I do not think that it's exaggeration.
[00:58:24]  I'll be conservative.
[00:58:25]  I think it's definitely less than 10%.
[00:58:27]  I'm inclined to think less than five, but let's just say it's less than 10%.
[00:58:32]  So that means 90% plus of churches.
[00:58:36]  Are a word of faith, prosperity gospel, they're ordaining women, they're gay affirming, something along those lines.
[00:58:43]  ICE, right?
[00:58:44]  The members of ICE, just the individual workers, if we took an average of them and asked, hey, what are your political views, your cultural views, and your religious views?
[00:58:53]  I honestly believe that the average polling of ICE workers would be more aligned with scripture than the average polling at random of every church in America.
[00:59:05]  That's where we're at.
[00:59:05]  So, my point, I'm saying all that to make one simple point.
[00:59:09]  I think we are at a place now in America, in the year of our Lord 2025, where the civil magistrate is more faithful to God than the church of Jesus Christ.
[00:59:19]  And so, what we said nine months ago, it is now time for the fulfillment of that.
[00:59:23]  And that picture that we share, that iconic picture, is a case study of that fulfillment.
[00:59:28]  And what is that fulfillment?
[00:59:29]  We are at a time where the state must rebuke and correct the church.
[00:59:34]  I think that was the name of our episode that James White and others lost their minds about.
[00:59:39]  But the name was The State Must Correct the Church.
[00:59:44]  And it's happening.
[00:59:45]  It's happening before our very eyes, and it's happening correctly.
[00:59:49]  Accurately, righteously, biblically.
[00:59:52]  Yep.
[00:59:53]  You're welcome.
[00:59:55]  For more news, see our episodes from nine months ago.
[00:59:58]  Right.
[00:59:59]  You want next year's news at this point?
[01:00:01]  Yep.
[01:00:02]  Tune in today.
[01:00:02]  And I would say, too, if me and you went through, we listed 100 men that we knew, no, that have been excommunicated for these views, that views, whatever.
[01:00:09]  I would honestly bet half of them, NAPARC, CREC.
[01:00:12]  Just like, well, these men were excommunicated from non denominational, Baptist.
[01:00:16]  No, these men, many of them, probably not all of them, maybe about half.
[01:00:21]  About half of them PCA churches, OPC churches, Lutheran churches.
[01:00:27]  Yep, LCMS, one more.
[01:00:31]  OPC.
[01:00:32]  CREC.
[01:00:32]  Oh, CREC.
[01:00:33]  CREC.
[01:00:34]  Yep, stick these guys out for me.
[01:00:35]  OPC, PCA, and LCMS.
[01:00:38]  Those four denominations, all probably four of the most conservative denominations in the country.
[01:00:45]  We know at least 50 people who have been excommunicated from those churches.
[01:00:50]  Formally excommunicated, asked to leave, they themselves were essentially pressured out.
[01:00:56]  And in virtually all those cases, I haven't deeply dug into every single one of those 50 cases.
[01:01:02]  But the ones that I know, that I have asked questions, that I have looked into, it's very similar to the case that we shared today.
[01:01:11]  This guy had a tweet saying, Hey, I don't think we should have a bunch of H 1B visas.
[01:01:15]  I want America to look like America.
[01:01:16]  I want my kids to grow up in America, not India.
[01:01:19]  And, oh, we don't like your tone.
[01:01:20]  We think that's concerning.
[01:01:21]  It seems insensitive.
[01:01:23]  Oh, also, by the way, you're racist.

=== Excommunication and Financial Planning Advice (03:55) ===

[01:01:25]  Get out.
[01:01:25]  I hate you.
[01:01:26]  I hate your wife.
[01:01:27]  I hate your kids.
[01:01:28]  I hope they starve.
[01:01:29]  I'm glad that your business is crushed.
[01:01:30]  I'm glad you're getting death threats.
[01:01:32]  Let's throw excommunication on top, a little cherry on top for good measure.
[01:01:36]  I'm a pastor and I want to destroy your life.
[01:01:38]  That's where we are.
[01:01:40]  We're talking like retweets of Orthodox Presbyterian ministers barred from the Lord's table.
[01:01:46]  That's right.
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[01:01:47]  Hey, I retweeted Michael Spangler.
[01:01:50]  Boom, barred from the Lord's Supper.
[01:01:51]  You can't take communion with the rest of the church.
[01:01:53]  What are we doing?
[01:01:55]  What are we talking about?
[01:01:57]  We've got a bunch of great super chats.
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=== Genetic Claims and Pre-Adamite Cults (15:29) ===

[01:05:20]  All right, we're back with our final segment.
[01:05:25]  We're going to do some super chats now.
[01:05:27]  It's not too late for you to send one in.
[01:05:28]  If you send in a super chat, we always do our best to read it on the air.
[01:05:32]  I say best.
[01:05:33]  We do the super chats.
[01:05:34]  I was about to say, I don't think we've missed one.
[01:05:35]  Every single time.
[01:05:37]  I think there's only been like once or twice.
[01:05:39]  And in those cases, we end up doing it in the next live stream.
[01:05:42]  Yep.
[01:05:43]  So here we go.
[01:05:43]  The first one is Mitch Massey.
[01:05:46]  He gave us $300.
[01:05:48]  That is incredible.
[01:05:49]  God bless you.
[01:05:50]  We are very grateful.
[01:05:51]  Thank you, Mitch.
[01:05:52]  He said, Hey, men, I'm a pastor in New York and I love your ministry and hope that this helps make you bulletproof.
[01:05:58]  God bless you.
[01:05:59]  I'm not normally able to join you guys live, but I catch up on content when mowing or driving.
[01:06:06]  Any such cases, mowing or driving, that makes sense.
[01:06:10]  I'm going to preach through Ruth next month.
[01:06:12]  Oh, dude, that'll be perfect.
[01:06:14]  So I'm sure that I will be enjoying catching up on this episode sometime soon.
[01:06:19]  Ruth is, I had the pleasure of preaching through Ruth before.
[01:06:23]  I'd like to do it again because by God's grace, I think that I've grown.
[01:06:26]  It was years ago.
[01:06:27]  And I think I'd be able to do a better job.
[01:06:29]  But that's a wonderful book of the Bible to address some of the current issues of immigration, those things.
[01:06:34]  We bring up Ruth as a case study often on this show, saying, Notice with Ruth, she doesn't say, Hey, I'm going to, you know, your people will be my people, your God will be my God, but also still, you know, the false Moabite gods and also the Moabite people.
[01:06:46]  In fact, I'm going to come into Israel and I'm going to start Little Moabite Town, you know, as a subset, you know, within Israel, somewhere, you know, right outside of Jerusalem.
[01:06:55]  And I'm also going to run for, you know, mayor and I'm going to change policies so that more Moabites can come in and they can, like, That's insane.
[01:07:03]  When she says to her mother in law, who was an Israelite, Naomi, your God will be my God, your people will be my people, that necessarily includes, by way of implication, a forsaking of her previous gods and her previous people.
[01:07:17]  She's saying, I am going to be in Israel.
[01:07:20]  I'm going to assimilate.
[01:07:21]  I'm going to assimilate religiously.
[01:07:23]  I'm going to worship the triune God, the God of Israel.
[01:07:27]  I'm going to assimilate culturally.
[01:07:31]  Right?
[01:07:31]  Sociologically, I'm going to, you know, politically at every level.
[01:07:35]  And it's not a coincidence that from the line of Ruth, so she marries Boaz, then they have Obed.
[01:07:40]  Obed begets Jesse, and Jesse begets David.
[01:07:43]  David becomes the quintessential king of Israel, right?
[01:07:47]  He's a type of Christ.
[01:07:48]  There's no better king than David, other than, of course, ultimately Christ.
[01:07:53]  And he's the second king in the history of the king.
[01:07:56]  So you start with Saul.
[01:07:57]  Saul turned out not to be so great.
[01:07:59]  But then David comes in, he's a man after God's own heart.
[01:08:02]  So, the second king in this kingly line in Israel, but notice that David, who is king, he has a Moabite great grandmother.
[01:08:11]  But it's not his, he's not a Moabite, and it's not his mother, it's his great grandmother.
[01:08:16]  Meaning what?
[01:08:16]  That you're now on the fourth generation.
[01:08:18]  You see how that works?
[01:08:19]  Oh, what a coincidence.
[01:08:20]  You have someone who does immigrate into Israel.
[01:08:23]  She's not heritage Israelite, she's not.
[01:08:26]  But she immigrates, but she doesn't just immigrate, she converts religiously, forsakes idolatry, worships the triune God.
[01:08:35]  She also.
[01:08:36]  Forsakes not just her false gods, but her prior people.
[01:08:39]  She assimilates fully in.
[01:08:41]  And by the time it gets to her son with Boaz, Obed, and then their grandson, Jesse, and then their great grandson, David, David is now at the fourth generation, a heritage Israelite, a man after God's own heart, and fit to be king.
[01:08:54]  See how that works?
[01:08:56]  Not crazy.
[01:08:57]  Can we do that here, please?
[01:08:58]  Can we please do that here?
[01:09:00]  Ruth will preach.
[01:09:01]  So, Mitch Massey, I'm glad you're going through Ruth.
[01:09:03]  And thank you very, very much again for your generosity.
[01:09:06]  All right.
[01:09:07]  All right.
[01:09:09]  Christian America Ministries, I'll read it out.
[01:09:12]  $10 super chat, really appreciate that.
[01:09:15]  The Christian American Ministries asked Would you consider examining the belief that the Anglo Saxon, Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples are the true physical descendants of the Israelites in relation to current events?
[01:09:27]  Absolutely.
[01:09:28]  Like the question of would you consider examining?
[01:09:32]  I think it would be a fascinating episode.
[01:09:35]  Totally happy to do it.
[01:09:36]  I'll give you a brief version, but we could do a full episode where we.
[01:09:40]  Break it down so, uh, for me personally, I don't think that that's the case.
[01:09:43]  So, I you know, I've heard that Europeans, you know, um, who are a subset of Europeans are uh the genetic descendants of the biblical Israelites, um, specifically the 10 tribes that were carried off, right?
[01:09:54]  So, they would be the 10 lost, exactly.
[01:09:56]  Yep, uh, so the 10 lost tribes that were lost in captivity that they eventually you know migrated uh because they converted to Christ later on, they weren't like the Edomites, you know.
[01:10:05]  So, this you know, this view, uh, there's variations of this view, some are heretical, and I want to address that, and then some.
[01:10:11]  I think they are wrong, but not heretical.
[01:10:14]  They wouldn't merit church discipline.
[01:10:16]  But if you're of the impression, well, the Jews are not actually, you know, all of Israel, you know, that's not, Jew is not synonymous for Israelite, but rather that's just, you know, the tribe of Judea, a Judean, those kinds of things.
[01:10:32]  If that's your opinion, so then there's 10 other tribes and they ultimately convert to Christ, but the Jewish Edomites do not and they remain hardened in their heart.
[01:10:41]  And then those who convert to Christ because they're enduring much persecution, they actually disperse and they dispersed above the Caucasus Mountains to the north, and they became the Caucasians and Europeans.
[01:10:53]  I'm very familiar with the view.
[01:10:55]  I have heard it several times.
[01:10:56]  I think that that's wrong.
[01:10:58]  Okay.
[01:10:58]  I want to go on record saying that's wrong.
[01:11:00]  I think the black Hebrew Israelites, you know, black people, they're the real Israelites.
[01:11:04]  White people, they're the real Israelites.
[01:11:06]  I think both views are wrong.
[01:11:07]  I appreciate both views, though, because it really supports my view, because both, I think, serve as profound examples of retardation.
[01:11:17]  And so my view is.
[01:11:20]  White people are the real Israelites, retarded.
[01:11:22]  Black people are the real Israelites, retarded.
[01:11:25]  Ashkenazi Jews are the real Israelites, also very retarded.
[01:11:30]  I believe that in the province of God, we don't have any direct genetic descendants of the Israelites of the Bible 2,000 years ago today.
[01:11:39]  The birth records were in the temple that Titus destroyed.
[01:11:44]  There is no way to prove genetically that, oh, I'm a direct descendant of Abraham or a direct descendant of David or a direct.
[01:11:51]  No.
[01:11:52]  And I think part of the reason why God saw fit to do it that way in his providence is because the flesh is of little account.
[01:11:59]  That doesn't forego natural affections and these kinds of things, right?
[01:12:02]  Two things can be true at once without contradicting one another.
[01:12:05]  They can run parallel side by side.
[01:12:07]  But as it comes to the gospel and as it comes to salvation, as it comes to the Christian faith, it's not one who is a Jew outwardly, circumcision of the flesh, but one who is a Jew inwardly, circumcision of the heart.
[01:12:20]  This is what the whole book of Galatians is about, it's what the whole book of Hebrews is about.
[01:12:25]  It's what much of the book of Acts is about.
[01:12:27]  I mean, this point is just everywhere in the New Testament.
[01:12:31]  And so I believe that because that's the theology that the Holy Spirit inspired the apostles to write in scripture, canonized and scripturated, I believe that God providentially, not just through special revelation and the writing in the New Testament, but providentially in natural revelation and history, saw fit to make sure that the genetic birth rights and records would be wiped out.
[01:12:53]  And then before you have the Talmud and the Mishnah and these kinds of things, you have like a 300 year gap.
[01:12:59]  Before Judaism, Talmudic Judaism as we know it today, really gets off the ground.
[01:13:04]  And they like to claim and say, like, oh, we're the direct descendants.
[01:13:07]  Okay, but you have a 300 year gap in your records.
[01:13:11]  No, I don't believe that anyone can make the claim.
[01:13:13]  What I think actually happened in 8070 is that the birth records were destroyed.
[01:13:17]  Many Jews that still remained hard in their hearts against Christ, they too were physically destroyed.
[01:13:22]  And therefore, their families, their line, no descendants, their line was snuffed out, removed from the earth.
[01:13:27]  And then I think that there were also many Jews that in 8070, they saw the fulfillment of what Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24.
[01:13:34]  And that was assigned to them.
[01:13:35]  And so they were converted to Christianity.
[01:13:37]  They believed that Jesus actually was the Messiah and that they killed their Messiah, repented of that.
[01:13:42]  And then quickly, in believing now that Jesus is the Messiah, they believed his words in Matthew 24 that there was a local judgment, right?
[01:13:49]  The Olivet discourse was not the universal final end, but a local judgment fulfilled in 8070.
[01:13:55]  Jesus said before this generation passes away.
[01:13:58]  And so now they're believing the words of Jesus.
[01:13:59]  They got out of Dodge, got out of Jerusalem, got out of Israel, and migrated north.
[01:14:03]  And now they're submitting themselves to the Apostolic teaching, Galatians and Hebrews, and these books, that is not one who is a Jew outwardly, circumcision of the flesh, but one who is a Jew inwardly, circumcision of the heart.
[01:14:15]  So, they likely now, they're refugees in other places because their country has been destroyed and they know not to put too much stock in the flesh because that's what the apostles are teaching.
[01:14:23]  They've converted to Christianity.
[01:14:25]  So, they probably intermarried and their lineage, their ancestry would have been watered down as they're taking wives from other nations, other Gentiles who have come to faith.
[01:14:34]  So, they're probably intermarrying with Gentiles.
[01:14:37]  And, you know, a few centuries go by.
[01:14:39]  And then some rebellious guys say, let's pretend that we are genetically Jews and let's pretend that we're God's chosen people.
[01:14:46]  You know, maybe our great, great, great, great grandchildren can get trillions of dollars from the United States and go ahead and bomb people in Gaza.
[01:14:53]  I, I, that's, I, so, anyways, I, I think it's, I think it's silly.
[01:14:58]  Anyone, anyone.
[01:15:00]  So, I'm not saying it's especially silly, you know, like, well, it might be black people, they might be the Israelites, it might be Ashkenazi Jews, they might be the, but white people, it can't be them.
[01:15:08]  Now, that's, that's just being trained to be, you know, anti white.
[01:15:13]  That, that, that's just your liberalism showing.
[01:15:15]  So, I, I think that, you know, white people are the true Israelites.
[01:15:18]  I think it's retarded, but, Hear me, I don't think it's especially retarded.
[01:15:22]  I don't think it's any more retarded than black people claiming to be the Israelites or Ashkenazi Jews claiming to be the Israelites.
[01:15:28]  And I'm most concerned with Ashkenazi Jews because it seems like most people in the world are more convinced by that claim than they are by the Caucasian claim or the black Hebrew Israelite claim.
[01:15:36]  All right, so that's all that.
[01:15:38]  Here's the point though if you're a member in my church, for instance, I'll just use myself as a hypothetical example, and you believe that certain sects like Celts and Anglo Saxons and Germanics are the genetic descendants of the Israelites of the Bible 2000 years ago.
[01:15:58]  And that's as far as you take it.
[01:16:00]  But that's your view.
[01:16:01]  I would say you're wrong.
[01:16:03]  And I maybe give you a hard time a little bit in love.
[01:16:05]  You know, hey, you're wrong and also slightly retarded, but we love our retarded members.
[01:16:09]  And the table of the Lord would be open to you.
[01:16:12]  Membership would be open to you.
[01:16:14]  And you would not be under church discipline.
[01:16:17]  That said, though, that said, going back to the comment here, what you're getting at.
[01:16:23]  This view, you could hold it in isolation.
[01:16:26]  You could.
[01:16:27]  And I would say it's wrong, but not heretical.
[01:16:29]  Say that again.
[01:16:30]  I think you're wrong, but not heretical.
[01:16:32]  But there are many, not in every case, there are exceptions, but there are many people that I've encountered that hold this view and tend to hold it in tandem also with other views of a cult called Christian identity.
[01:16:47]  So, Christian identity, just in the generic sense of, well, that's great.
[01:16:49]  Let's find our identity in Christ.
[01:16:51]  I'm not talking about that.
[01:16:53]  There's an actual cult called Christian identity.
[01:16:56]  And Christian identity believes that white people are the descendants of the biblical Israelites, but that's not all they believe.
[01:17:04]  Now, like with every cult, there's a sliding scale there and there are different expressions and different variations.
[01:17:12]  But a significant portion of the Christian identity guys do also believe not just that Caucasians are the physical descendants of the biblical Israelites, but they also believe in pre Adamic people.
[01:17:23]  Okay, so let me explain that for a moment.
[01:17:25]  They do not believe that Adam was the first man.
[01:17:29]  And that Eve, as Genesis says, is the mother of all living.
[01:17:33]  They actually believe that God, this is not all, but many of these guys in this cult, they believe that God actually, they actually have adopted tenets of theistic evolution.
[01:17:44]  So they're not literal six day guys.
[01:17:46]  They're not young earth guys.
[01:17:48]  They deny Genesis 1 through 3.
[01:17:49]  And most importantly, I'll get to this in a moment, they deny Romans 5 because Genesis 1 through 3 works with Genesis 5 in perfect concert.
[01:17:56]  If you get rid of one, then you disrupt the other.
[01:17:59]  So this group, Many who believe that Caucasians are the physical descendants of the biblical Israelites, they also, that one I think is wrong.
[01:18:07]  It's not heretical.
[01:18:08]  I'm not that concerned about that.
[01:18:10]  But they also tend to believe in pre-ademic people, meaning that God created the world, not in six literal days, but he created the world over millions of years and he used macroevolution to do it.
[01:18:19]  Now, there's a number of problems with that.
[01:18:22]  It's simply not biblical.
[01:18:23]  But one big problem that I believe makes it heretical is that if you believe that with macroevolution, that means that you have millions and millions of people, or at least some kind of people, dying and having offspring and they live and they have offspring and then they die and they die.
[01:18:40]  And so what you have then is before Adam and Eve.
[01:18:43]  Are ever even made, right?
[01:18:45]  And then they sin in the garden.
[01:18:47]  What you have is death is already introduced into the world long before sin with Adam and Eve.
[01:18:55]  And the Bible plainly teaches that through sin, this is Romans 5 now, by one man's disobedience, that one man being Adam, not a bunch of pre Adamic mud people, but Adam, that through one man's sin, the first man, the father, federal head of all people, Adam, by his disobedience, sin entered the world, and through sin, death.
[01:19:16]  So, it's not that there's death through macro evolution for millions of years, and then eventually Adam and Eve are made and they sin.
[01:19:23]  No, it's Adam and Eve sin, and through their sin, that sin brings the curse.
[01:19:28]  And with the curse, one of the chief tenets of that is death.
[01:19:32]  And so, there's a massive denial there.
[01:19:34]  And then, with Romans 5, so too by one man's disobedience, sin entered the world, and through sin, death, so too by one man's obedience.
[01:19:43]  The second Adam, Jesus, now, that if we have union with him by grace through faith, then we have obedience.
[01:19:50]  Life.
[01:19:51]  And so, with the pre-ademic tenet, that element of this cult of Christian identity that does believe that white people are the true genetic descendants of the biblical Israelites, with this pre-ademic piece, there's an affirmation of theistic evolution in many cases.
[01:20:10]  There are variants, but in many cases, so a denial of young earth, denial of six literal days, pre-ademic people.
[01:20:17]  And because they're pre-ademic people, of course, they're going to take liberty and say they're kind of people, not really people, they're subhuman.
[01:20:24]  They're less than people.
[01:20:25]  They're less than human.
[01:20:26]  They're subhuman.
[01:20:27]  They're kind of beasts, kind of in between beasts and people.
[01:20:31]  And of course, all the pre-ademic people in this view are all the brown people, the non-white people.
[01:20:36]  The ademic race would be the white race.
[01:20:39]  And so that's part of the view.
[01:20:41]  And then, of course, you would have all these people who are not descendants of Adam, the subhuman pre-ademic mud people.

=== Denying Humanity to Subhuman Groups (15:12) ===

[01:20:50]  Well, they don't have Adam as federal head.
[01:20:53]  Adam is not their federal head because they did not literally descend.
[01:20:55]  From Adam.
[01:20:56]  See, notice this.
[01:20:58]  This is the gospel here.
[01:20:59]  Adam is federal head of all people because all people descended from him physically.
[01:21:04]  Christ, the second Adam, is the federal head of all his spiritual sons.
[01:21:09]  Notice the book of Isaiah.
[01:21:11]  So we have the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
[01:21:12]  But Jesus, who is the Son, not the Father, he is referenced one time as eternal Father in the book of Isaiah.
[01:21:20]  And the reason why is because through Christ, he begets many spiritual sons, right?
[01:21:25]  We have spiritual new birth.
[01:21:27]  Through Christ.
[01:21:28]  And so Jesus is the second Adam, and his federal headship is with all his sons who are spiritual sons through spiritual birth.
[01:21:37]  Adam, the first Adam, he is federal head of all his physical descendants, physical sons through physical birth.
[01:21:45]  That's the picture, that's the imagery of how this works.
[01:21:48]  So everyone is under Adam, they're under the curse, and they're in sin because of Adam's sin.
[01:21:54]  He represented them in the garden.
[01:21:56]  When he failed, we all failed.
[01:21:57]  We're all represented by Adam.
[01:21:59]  Adam.
[01:21:59]  He is our representative, our federal head.
[01:22:02]  Well, I didn't pick him.
[01:22:03]  It doesn't matter.
[01:22:04]  Why is he federal head then?
[01:22:05]  Because of birth, physical birth, physical descendants.
[01:22:09]  Well, how does Jesus become federal head?
[01:22:14]  Because he also is a father.
[01:22:16]  Adam, physical father, Jesus, eternal father.
[01:22:19]  Adam, federal headship established by physical birth, Jesus, spiritual birth.
[01:22:24]  But here's the picture of Romans 5 that one man's disobedience ruined the world.
[01:22:30]  It introduced sin and through sin, death.
[01:22:33]  Jesus, though, in his obedience, he saves the sons of Adam.
[01:22:38]  And if you have an entire sector of people, the mud people, the pre-ademic people, who are not in Adam, they're not descendants of Adam, then you have an entire segment of people who are unsavable.
[01:22:49]  Now, some Christian identity guys will get cute with this and have variants and say, well, but by this point, there's been so much intermarriage that, you know, most brown people are, you know, they're brown, but they're only slightly brown because they probably have at some point in their ancestry intermarriage, you know, with a European.
[01:23:06]  And so they do have a soul and they are human, you know, still not as human as somebody who's.
[01:23:12]  Pure, you know, pure white, but they're, you know, human ish and they do have a soul and they are, you know, there is the potential, they're savable, right?
[01:23:21]  They could be saved.
[01:23:23]  And so I'm, you know, I'm not that much of a monster, you know, holding this view.
[01:23:29]  No, it's a terrible view.
[01:23:31]  And it's not just, oh, it's a terrible view because you're being mean to brown people or this and that.
[01:23:36]  No, I want you guys to understand this is not, I'm not going to attack this view from the left.
[01:23:41]  I don't have to adopt.
[01:23:42]  Made up words like racism.
[01:23:44]  I don't have to be a Marxist.
[01:23:45]  I don't have to be a Bolshevik.
[01:23:47]  I don't have to adopt some Jewish liberalism in order to attack this view.
[01:23:51]  This view is wrong, not because it's mean, not because it hurts my fifis, not because it hurts the fifis of brown people.
[01:23:57]  This view is wrong because it's heretical.
[01:24:00]  It goes against the word of God.
[01:24:02]  It denies six day literal creation.
[01:24:05]  It denies young earth.
[01:24:07]  It says that death predates sin.
[01:24:11]  It denies Adam's federal headship.
[01:24:13]  Over all people.
[01:24:14]  It denies that Eve is the mother of all the living, and it denies that Jesus is able, not universal salvation, we're not universalists, but to save from every tribe, tongue, and nation because there would be some tribes that cannot be saved because they don't have Adam as federal head and therefore cannot have Christ.
[01:24:32]  Christian identity, in the generic sense, yeah, we have Christian identity.
[01:24:36]  We're Christians, but as the particular name of a particular cult, because that's the name they've adopted, goes by Christian identity and some call it Israel identity.
[01:24:46]  It's that those are just different labels.
[01:24:47]  As Christian identity started to be detected and people are like, whoa, what is this?
[01:24:51]  And started to call it out as a cult, they shifted, they pivoted, and they said, oh, we're Israel identity.
[01:24:56]  Same guys, same guys.
[01:24:58]  So whether you hear someone saying Christian identity, I'm a part of Christian identity, or I'm a part of Israel identity, you need to have alarm bells in your head and say, cult, cult, cult.
[01:25:07]  If you have somebody show up at your church and they say, I believe that Caucasians are the physical descendants of biblical Israel, okay, that view, I think, is again, retarded and wrong, but not heretical on its own.
[01:25:19]  But I would then press and say, hey, are you part of Christian identity?
[01:25:24]  Or do you think that any people pre existed Adam?
[01:25:27]  Would be a good interrogating question to ask.
[01:25:31]  So if they just think that white people are the physical descendants of the biblical Israelites, I think it's wrong, but that's not heretical.
[01:25:37]  But ask some follow up questions.
[01:25:39]  Do they believe in pre Adamic people?
[01:25:41]  Do they believe in old earth?
[01:25:42]  Do they believe in macro evolution before Adam was made?
[01:25:46]  Get into some of those questions.
[01:25:47]  And if they answer yes to those questions, well, now it's not just, hey, you're retarded, it's, hey, you're a heretic.
[01:25:55]  You're a heretic, and then you must call that person to recant.
[01:25:59]  And if that person does not recant, or if they tell you they recant, but then continue to peddle that view to other members in your church, then you excommunicate them.
[01:26:09]  Okay, there's my answer to that question.
[01:26:12]  All right, next.
[01:26:13]  Andrew Cox, a good brother, longtime supporter, said this.
[01:26:18]  He sent $5, first of all, thank you, and said, Our third child, a baby girl, was born this morning, happy and healthy, and mama is doing well too.
[01:26:25]  Praise God.
[01:26:26]  Congratulations, brother.
[01:26:27]  He said, Thank you for your prayers.
[01:26:29]  You are welcome and awesome.
[01:26:31]  Congratulations.
[01:26:32]  That's great.
[01:26:32]  Congratulations.
[01:26:33]  Enjoy the time off.
[01:26:34]  Not Boring Dad sent $9.99 asking this Should churches stop using Matt Boswell music now that his church has taken action against Keene?
[01:26:43]  Yes.
[01:26:44]  Yes.
[01:26:44]  The best time was probably about five years ago.
[01:26:46]  So today's a good day, too.
[01:26:48]  Yeah, today's a good day, too.
[01:26:49]  All right.
[01:26:50]  Is Dapper Dan next?
[01:26:51]  Dapper Dan is next.
[01:26:52]  I'll do this one.
[01:26:52]  Dapper Dan, it's $5.
[01:26:54]  He said, If you could ask one question to the 2028 Republican primary candidate during their first debate, what would it be?
[01:27:02]  What is your relationship with Peter, Thiel, and Palantir?
[01:27:07]  And also, why do you have an Indian wife?
[01:27:10]  And has she converted to Christianity?
[01:27:11]  Those would be my first questions.
[01:27:13]  Those seem very specific.
[01:27:15]  Yep, JD Vance.
[01:27:15]  All right, go ahead.
[01:27:16]  Tom sent $5.
[01:27:17]  Thank you, Tom.
[01:27:18]  And Tom asked this Can you all discuss Leviticus 19 34?
[01:27:23]  It was on a billboard outside Austin.
[01:27:25]  That's, yep, that's par for the course, saying Christians don't have to be cruel or something like that.
[01:27:30]  I've seen a couple of this.
[01:27:31]  There's a billboard that says, like, Jesus.
[01:27:32]  Said, my kingdom is not of this world.
[01:27:34]  Twisting scripture.
[01:27:34]  Leviticus 19 34, you shall not mistreat the stranger or the sojourner.
[01:27:38]  And it's kind of getting at the idea like, look, illegal immigrants, legal immigrants, the Bible says you shouldn't mistreat them.
[01:27:44]  Christians don't have to be cruel.
[01:27:45]  And I would actually agree with the sentiment in isolation Christians do not have to be cruel.
[01:27:50]  Yes.
[01:27:50]  Correct.
[01:27:50]  Blessed are the merciful.
[01:27:51]  Blessed are the peacemakers.
[01:27:53]  Amen.
[01:27:53]  When the sojourner, when the stranger is in your country, and let's say hypothetically, he was taking bricks and rocks and he was pelting police officers of the city of Los Angeles.
[01:28:05]  Or setting vehicles of a private corporation that cost about $200,000 on average on fire, waving the flag of the country that he came from.
[01:28:14]  Hypothetically, if a stranger or sojourner was doing something like that, do Christians have to just sit there and let that happen?
[01:28:22]  Do Christians have to just support it and say, We've got to be nice to them?
[01:28:25]  You do justice.
[01:28:26]  If you're a Christian in the civil magistrate, you carry out justice.
[01:28:28]  If you're a Christian who's not in the civil magistrate, then you demand that your civil magistrate carry out justice.
[01:28:33]  So the sojourner who was actually in Israel, yes, they were not allowed to mistreat them.
[01:28:38]  That's absolutely right.
[01:28:40]  But here's the thing nowhere does it say that in Israel, anybody and everybody all the time who wanted to be a sojourner is automatically allowed in.
[01:28:50]  And if somebody came in the wrong way or was causing trouble while being in, Israel would have booted them out.
[01:28:58]  If you were a sojourner who broke the Sabbath, you would be put to death.
[01:29:01]  That's right.
[01:29:02]  And even, so Leviticus, in the Pentateuch, elsewhere, it says that the sojourner.
[01:29:10]  The stranger, the alien, you can't mistreat him.
[01:29:13]  But you know what you can do?
[01:29:14]  There was still, here's my point.
[01:29:16]  So the Bible, you're right, the Bible says you cannot be malicious, you cannot be cruel to the sojourner.
[01:29:24]  But there is still a distinction biblically in the Pentateuch between the sojourner and your brother, your fellow Israelite.
[01:29:31]  So for instance, the Israelites could not charge another Israelite, somebody who was their heritage brother, could not charge them interest.
[01:29:40]  You know who they could charge interest to?
[01:29:42]  A sojourner.
[01:29:43]  Yep, that's not cruelty, right?
[01:29:44]  That's not exploitation, but there was still a different standard.
[01:29:48]  And in America, we need, number one, 50 million to 100 million need to go back.
[01:29:53]  Even once that's done, there's still a lot of people here who are not heritage Americans, but they're not causing trouble.
[01:29:59]  They're upstanding citizens and all that kind of stuff.
[01:30:01]  And their descendants eventually will be heritage Americans.
[01:30:04]  And that's fine.
[01:30:04]  That's fine.
[01:30:06]  But what I would say is that even with that, so there's a bunch of people who just need to go.
[01:30:09]  They just need to go.
[01:30:10]  There's some people who would get to stay.
[01:30:12]  But even with those people who get to stay, if America had laws, I'm just saying hypothetically, I'm not saying that I would do it or that it should be done.
[01:30:19]  But I'm just saying, just to put this into perspective, If America decided we're going to go ahead and deport 100 million people, and we've done the math and we've done a census, and there are about 50 million people still remaining who are first, second, first, and second generation Americans who they or their parents moved here in the last 50 years.
[01:30:42]  But they're upstanding citizens.
[01:30:44]  They've loved our country.
[01:30:45]  They pay their taxes.
[01:30:45]  They've never broken the law, blah, blah, blah.
[01:30:47]  And we've decided that they can stay.
[01:30:49]  However, there's going to be some provisions for heritage Americans that they don't have.
[01:30:55]  So, under the law, if they're tried for something like that, equal under the law.
[01:30:59]  But maybe certain tax breaks for heritage Americans that these guys don't get.
[01:31:05]  That would not be a breach of the Leviticus passage that's been cited today.
[01:31:09]  You're not saying heritage Americans can commit murder, they have lesser penalties.
[01:31:13]  If you commit murder, you actually get the biblical justice.
[01:31:16]  That would be unequal weights and measures.
[01:31:18]  What you're saying is hey, as far as tax breaks, as far as opportunities, like the Bible does not require everyone to vote.
[01:31:24]  Well, some people can vote and some people can't.
[01:31:26]  Nothing biblically, no biblical injustice has been done.
[01:31:29]  That's right.
[01:31:29]  You can get away with murder.
[01:31:30]  You can't.
[01:31:31]  Oh, hold on.
[01:31:32]  That's biblical.
[01:31:32]  That is a breach of justice.
[01:31:33]  Correct.
[01:31:34]  Okay.
[01:31:34]  Hope that helps.
[01:31:35]  Nick Bonner, man, good friend, faithful, he's great.
[01:31:39]  He's a great supporter.
[01:31:39]  He sent 30 pieces, I mean, $7,000.
[01:31:43]  That was kind of his super chat.
[01:31:44]  He sent $20.
[01:31:46]  And he said $7,000.
[01:31:49]  And what he's referencing is pro Israel lobbies.
[01:31:52]  They're losing the PR game.
[01:31:53]  And so word is circled around.
[01:31:56]  They're paying some influencers up to $7,000.
[01:31:59]  Specifically on the right.
[01:31:59]  Right.
[01:32:00]  So, right wing influencers paying them up to $7,000 per post that's positive about Israel.
[01:32:06]  And some guys have done the math on that and broken it down.
[01:32:09]  What does $7,000 equate to, you know, like 2,500 years ago in Israel in biblical times?
[01:32:16]  Oh, it would have been about, I think it's like four months' wages.
[01:32:19]  Four months' wages.
[01:32:20]  And what does that equate to in silver and the worth of silver at that time?
[01:32:23]  30 shekels of silver.
[01:32:25]  It's incredible.
[01:32:26]  Isn't it amazing that Jews today are paying the equivalent of 30 shekels of silver?
[01:32:33]  To influencers, right wing influencers, for them to shill for Israel against Christ, against the Christian religion.
[01:32:44]  Some things just don't change.
[01:32:46]  Yeah.
[01:32:46]  That's what Nick's mentioning.
[01:32:47]  Thanks so much for the $20, Nick.
[01:32:49]  This is a good question.
[01:32:50]  Speaking of Heritage Americans, Alex Daniel sent $10.
[01:32:54]  Thank you, Alex.
[01:32:56]  He said, My mom's family settled here, I'm thinking in America, in the 1800s from Europe and still owns that land.
[01:33:01]  My father, a Mexican illegal, abandoned us.
[01:33:04]  I'm sorry.
[01:33:04]  He said, I'm half white and Protestant Christian.
[01:33:07]  Am I a heritage American?
[01:33:09]  So, Protestant Christian, graced.
[01:33:13]  Half white.
[01:33:13]  So, I'm just thinking of starting with WASP.
[01:33:15]  I mean, the country was built, a lot of people introduced over time, but that was the backbone, were the WASP, right?
[01:33:20]  So, white, Anglo, Saxon, Protestant.
[01:33:22]  So, you got the Protestant piece, you got half of the white, you know, Anglo piece.
[01:33:26]  My position, and then I'll let Wes answer, but my position, because people have asked me, and it's just helpful to have tangible, you know, to have something concrete.
[01:33:34]  So, I've said third generation, and I get that just for the record, I get that from scripture.
[01:33:37]  It's not entirely.
[01:33:39]  Arbitrary.
[01:33:40]  In scripture, there were certain rights and privileges in terms of entrance to the temple for certain forms and degrees of worship in Israel that were not allotted to sojourners or even to a Ruth or someone like that, but until the third generation.
[01:33:55]  So, this is actually in the Old Testament.
[01:33:57]  It's in the Bible.
[01:33:58]  It's a Bible verse, the third generation.
[01:34:00]  So, what I've said is third generation on both sides or fifth generation or more on one side.
[01:34:08]  So, in this person's case, in Alex Daniel's case, he said, 1800.
[01:34:13]  So I'm assuming that's fifth generation plus at that point.
[01:34:17]  And then what is it?
[01:34:20]  Mexican, an illegal Mexican who abandoned us.
[01:34:23]  That's so sorry.
[01:34:24]  I'm so sorry for that.
[01:34:25]  That's really sad.
[01:34:26]  But I would say, yes, you're half WASP, 100% on the P, half on the W and the A.
[01:34:36]  And the part that is half is multiple generations here in America since the 1800s.
[01:34:43]  So I personally would say, yes, you're a heritage American.
[01:34:46]  But Wes and I, we have differences and you're free to push back.
[01:34:49]  What would you say?
[01:34:52]  If you still had a voting system in America, I think those that vote would be men, they would be men that are productive, men that are not criminals, men that are Christian.
[01:34:59]  Alex meets all of these.
[01:35:00]  I do think, though, they should descend from the majority, their majority descendants, as they trace their different ancestors.
[01:35:07]  The majority of it should be from the founding stock of America.
[01:35:10]  And so I would think, Alex, in your case, I would say if you marry an American, your children could vote.
[01:35:15]  So in that case, And it's not about being autistic or getting into 23andMe and getting into ratios, but it's about saying the majority of this person's ancestors, the majority of this man's lineage, they were here.
[01:35:28]  They forged this country.
[01:35:29]  They were gifted this country.
[01:35:31]  Stephen Wolfe talks about a nation being a gift from our ancestors.
[01:35:35]  And this person's ancestors worked, labored, bled, and died.
[01:35:39]  The majority of them, not just one back here at a grandfather or a great grandfather, the majority of them gave him as a gift this place.
[01:35:47]  That would be my argument majority, so 50% plus one.
[01:35:50]  So, would he?
[01:35:51]  I think that's a fair argument.
[01:35:54]  I disagree, but I don't think it's outside the pale.
[01:35:58]  I think it's reasonable.
[01:35:59]  So, would Alex be able to vote within that?
[01:36:01]  Yes or no?
[01:36:01]  No.

=== Nietzsche Superman and Voting Standards (05:14) ===

[01:36:02]  Okay, so he would not be able to vote.
[01:36:03]  But I'm glad you said that because I just want to articulate this for the listener.
[01:36:08]  So, when Wes says he can't vote, he's not saying that Alex should go to a labor camp.
[01:36:11]  No.
[01:36:11]  He's saying Alex can live here.
[01:36:13]  He can live here peacefully as a welcomed member of society, as a citizen, some level of citizen.
[01:36:20]  But you would reserve the vote.
[01:36:21]  And then his children, Alex marries an American girl, children would now be well over a majority.
[01:36:28]  They'd be 75%.
[01:36:29]  And so then the children would be voting.
[01:36:31]  And Alex would be the guy who helped turn the tide.
[01:36:38]  And the children would be great.
[01:36:39]  And Alex would also have a great life.
[01:36:40]  And here's the thing Alex, the people, he's like, Well, I can't vote.
[01:36:44]  Oh, and he'd look over and say, Well, who can vote?
[01:36:47]  Oh, all the based Christian guys.
[01:36:50]  And he'd be like, The country's going to be tough.
[01:36:52]  And for the record, I support.
[01:36:54]  Tons of policies that would take away my right to vote.
[01:36:57]  I support taking away everyone's right to vote, to be fair.
[01:37:00]  For the time being.
[01:37:00]  There was a Twitter post a while back where someone was like, if Joel had his way, only two people could vote.
[01:37:06]  And I said, that's still one more than preferable.
[01:37:08]  Yep.
[01:37:09]  And monarchy just kind of sounds nice.
[01:37:12]  And for a time, and even in the future, hey, four kids, I don't have four kids, take away my right.
[01:37:17]  Hey, voting in a state election, so could you vote in Texas?
[01:37:20]  I wasn't born here.
[01:37:21]  I would support only letting men, heads of household who were born in Texas, vote in Texas.
[01:37:25]  Beautiful.
[01:37:26]  Because I wouldn't meet that provocation.
[01:37:28]  Right, exactly.
[01:37:29]  So, you're like, so we're not trying to, we're not sitting here and saying, oh, we're going to make the, let me check my 23andMe, let me check this.
[01:37:35]  And then whatever perfectly lines up for me, that's what will make the standard.
[01:37:38]  No, there are plenty of standards that both you and I hold that we don't, a standard might be a stretch.
[01:37:44]  Okay.
[01:37:44]  There are a couple standards that you and I hold that we ourselves don't meet.
[01:37:48]  But here's the beauty of it.
[01:37:49]  Wes knows that if only native Texans stretching back three generations or more could vote in state elections, our state would be, Wes would be like, okay, so me and my wife can't vote.
[01:38:04]  And the state immediately is like better forever.
[01:38:07]  Yeah.
[01:38:08]  So much better.
[01:38:09]  My kids are blessed.
[01:38:10]  Because all the kids are blessed.
[01:38:11]  All the Mexican immigrants couldn't vote, but also all the Californians couldn't vote.
[01:38:18]  Like it would be amazing.
[01:38:19]  It would be amazing.
[01:38:20]  Okay, let's keep going.
[01:38:21]  Mostly peaceful.
[01:38:22]  Merchie sent $2, said, Here's two bucks to atone for your sacralism.
[01:38:27]  Thank you.
[01:38:28]  Yep.
[01:38:28]  Thank you so much.
[01:38:30]  The big red snake, $10.
[01:38:32]  If you ever do a talk about fascism, ooh, Can you go into the Nietzsche connection?
[01:38:37]  If you do go into Nazism, can you go into the Nietzsche and Darwin connection?
[01:38:41]  What he's getting there is Nietzsche had a strong view of basically man pulling himself up by his bootstraps and the will to power.
[01:38:49]  The great man must rule.
[01:38:50]  That was a big one, I think it's in Thus Spake Zarathustra, but he talks a lot about the superman as in there must be born a new man, a man of strength, a man of bravado, a man of virility.
[01:39:02]  And he's got to come out and he's got to rule and he's got to be, in many ways, Nietzsche is actually reflecting his own weaknesses.
[01:39:08]  Nietzsche was plagued.
[01:39:09]  With actual physical ailments, he was weak.
[01:39:12]  He was kind of a simp.
[01:39:14]  There's like actual photos of like a woman holding like a whip, a girl he likes, pretending to whip him and his guy that are there.
[01:39:20]  And he just laid down and took it.
[01:39:22]  And so, Nietzsche, in much of his writings, he's kind of looking for this Superman figure that embodies the strength that he wish he had.
[01:39:29]  And there are elements of fascism and Nazism that 100% draw from that.
[01:39:33]  So, that's the connection he's referencing there.
[01:39:36]  I've got to go to the restroom really bad.
[01:39:38]  So, we got to wrap it up, Wes.
[01:39:40]  I'm going to let you read it.
[01:39:41]  All right.
[01:39:42]  If I have a comment, I'll make it quick.
[01:39:43]  Let's go.
[01:39:44]  Wrap it up.
[01:39:44]  Daniel Bartos, $20.
[01:39:45]  Thanks, you.
[01:39:46]  Thank you, Daniel.
[01:39:46]  He said, Is there a release date for the Four Pillars merch?
[01:39:49]  Until then, I guess I'll settle for my Randy Weaver throwback.
[01:39:51]  Just say no to Zog shirt.
[01:39:53]  That's a great shirt.
[01:39:54]  There is not a release date in the Four Pillars merch.
[01:39:57]  But I think it's something that we'll do next year.
[01:39:59]  I think sometime next year we'll do it.
[01:40:01]  Merch is tough to do right, I should say.
[01:40:03]  Yeah, it's tough.
[01:40:03]  We could crank out a shirt next week.
[01:40:05]  Yeah, we could crank out a shirt next week, but you want it to not suck.
[01:40:08]  All right.
[01:40:08]  So that's first.
[01:40:09]  And then, secondly, like, I'll just be honest, we would be doing it for you guys.
[01:40:14]  Because I've looked at the profit margins on shirts.
[01:40:17]  It's like, all right, you're going to pay like what we would pay to get them printed, to get them shipped to us, and then ship.
[01:40:22]  It's like, all right, it's going to cost us $22 per shirt, and I'm not going to charge $40 for a shirt because it's ridiculous.
[01:40:29]  I'll charge $35 like a normal human.
[01:40:31]  No, no, I'm going to charge $25.
[01:40:32]  So it's like, I'm going to pay $22, $25.
[01:40:35]  And even if we sell like 200 shirts, you know, it's like, all right, I get to go home and tell the wife, hey, made $600.
[01:40:42]  You personally?
[01:40:43]  Nope.
[01:40:43]  The ministry, how much of that will you see?
[01:40:46]  Maybe 40 bucks.
[01:40:47]  Right.
[01:40:47]  Get the kids.
[01:40:48]  We're going to Chili's.
[01:40:49]  We're going to Chili's.
[01:40:50]  We're doing it.
[01:40:51]  So we would, I think we will do it sometime next year.
[01:40:55]  But let the record state out of the goodness of our heart because we love you because I don't think it's profitable.
[01:40:59]  Yep.
[01:41:00]  Vlad Jakobitz, great brother, longtime supporter, sent $2.
[01:41:04]  And this is in reference to the previous super chat.
[01:41:06]  New York pastor is going through the book of Ruth.
[01:41:08]  Vlad said, James B. Jordan's series on Ruth is amazing.
[01:41:11]  I believe it.
[01:41:12]  I believe it.
[01:41:12]  James B. Jordan's awesome.
[01:41:14]  Octavian, $9 super chat.
[01:41:15]  This is the last one.

=== Live Streaming Prayer on YouTube (02:17) ===

[01:41:16]  I've been thinking that when Jesus teaches the disciples to pray, I've been thinking that when Jesus teaches the disciples to pray, when he says, Our Father, he refers to himself.
[01:41:25]  No, I think he's talking about the Father.
[01:41:27]  But I'm assuming, Octavian, this is one of the later comments that came in.
[01:41:30]  So you might be thinking about what I said where Isaiah refers to Christ as eternal Father.
[01:41:35]  And so you are right.
[01:41:36]  There is that reference in the scripture where Jesus is eternal Father.
[01:41:40]  But in the reference of Matthew, what is it?
[01:41:43]  Is Matthew 6, our Father, the Lord's Prayer?
[01:41:47]  I believe it's Matthew 6.
[01:41:49]  You know, when you pray, pray, Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
[01:41:54]  I'm trying to sound.
[01:41:56]  Kind here, but I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure.
[01:41:59]  Uh, no, I that would be a false humility.
[01:42:01]  I know, um, he's referencing the father, um, and not himself.
[01:42:05]  Uh, but it's a decent thought, and I'm glad you asked so that we could, uh, so that we could answer.
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[01:42:23]  We did it last week.
[01:42:23]  Sometimes there'll be weeks where we just gotta bust out the vault or whatever, but right when enough happens.
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