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Good evening and welcome to the InfoWars Nightly News.
I'm your sit-in host, Rob Dew.
Alex has taken the night off for a well-deserved little R&R, but he will be back on Monday with a very special Ron Paul presentation.
We're going to show some vintage Ron Paul clips that proves that he's the same guy 20 years ago, is the same guy today, and not like these other shape-shifting troglodytes that are running for Republican nomination for the presidency.
Coming up, we're going to have Don Browning, who's a retired OKC police officer, and Holland Vanden Neuwenhoff from the film A Noble Lie.
He's one of the producers and researchers.
And it's a film we carry here at Infowars.com.
And they're going to be talking mainly about Don's threats that he received from the FBI while he was doing his own investigation and his police work there.
And it just goes to show you that good cops do want to get the truth out there and they are pressured from above to just sit back and let things happen.
Let's get to our headlines today.
We've got an interesting TSA story today.
Congress to fund massive expansion of TSA checkpoints.
And Paul Joseph Watson writes in this Infowars.com article, Congress is set to give the green light on funding for a massive expansion of TSA checkpoints with the federal agency already responsible for over 9,000 such checkpoints.
And last year, amidst increased fears, America is turning into a police state following the passage of the indefinite detention bill, which is the NDAA bill.
Goes on to say the TSA's 25 VIPER teams, which stands for Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response, have run more than 9,300 unannounced checkpoints and other search operations in the last year.
And the Department of Homeland Security is asking Congress they want to have 12 more teams in the next upcoming year.
So they want to spend a total of $134 million on top of what they're already spending at the airports, which is $5 billion.
You know how many terrorists they've found?
Zero.
That's what you get for five plus billion dollars.
And this reminds me of earlier this year we reported on a TSA checkpoint that was happening on the streets of Tennessee and we're going to show you part of that clip which also goes into a little bit of a Janet, I don't even know what to say, I can't even say it's a Janet Napolitano and her little mind control bit that was going on in Walmart and then Alex ties it in and the part of Police State 4.
So here's that clip now.
Tuesday, Tennessee was the first to do this simultaneously at five way stations and two bus stations statewide.
They're recruiting truck drivers like Rudy Gonzalez into the First Observer Highway Security Program to say something if they see something.
Not only truck drivers, but cars, everybody should be aware of what's going on on the road.
It's all meant to urge every driver to call authorities if they see something suspicious.
Hi, I'm Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
Homeland security begins with hometown security.
We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
The airport adventures which they now admit are going nationwide with the Viper teams at bus stops, train stops, the streets, shopping malls, random vans, sending you through body scanners, biometrically scanning 360, your naked body.
Now TSA agents are on the interstates fighting terrorism with visible intermodal prevention and response or Viper operations.
The Tennessee Highway Patrol is checking trucks with drug and bomb sniffing dogs during random inspections.
The bottom line is this, if you see something suspicious, say something about it.
And there's that buzzword, see something, say something, report on your neighbors, look around for stuff, do your own investigating.
It's really funny.
I really want to go into this, that statement that President Obama made, you know, we have to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong.
And that's basically what you're seeing with these TSA agents.
These are not officers of the law.
We shouldn't even call them officers because they're not officers.
They do not take an oath to the Constitution.
These are just They're literal brown shirts that we have out there that are going through our luggage, they're sticking their hands down your pants, and if you've gone through the airport, you know what it's like.
I mean, they're taking old ladies and strip-searching them, and then they say, that's not a strip-search, because we don't call it a strip-search, we call it a search.
And you know what happened to the brown shirts?
They got into power, they helped Hitler get into power, and then there was what we call the Night of Long Knives, where Hitler went around and assassinated all the leaders because he wanted to take full power, and he was afraid these guys would then go after his power.
So those of you out there that serve the system, and do this stuff, and do it with impunity, your day will come.
It'll happen.
So, that's about all I have to say on that one.
Let's go international here.
We got China warns of an EU carbon tax trade war.
So the trade wars are going to heat up.
And this is from the Financial Times.
China has warned the European Union to abandon its controversial carbon tax on airlines or risk provoking a global trade war.
Adding weight to the warning, an industry insider told the Financial Times that the Chinese government was seriously considering measures to hit back at the EU if it insists on charging international airlines for their carbon emissions.
And what this does, this goes back to the day before Mail Online reported that there's going to be a hike in airplane fares internationally to anybody flying into the EU.
And this is so they could offset the carbon footprint.
This goes into, Europe's right to tackle pollution from all airlines using its airports does not breach international laws, what the EU judges were ruling.
And you had American and Canadian airlines filing a challenge on this, and that was essentially just thrown out.
It was thrown out of court, and they said, sorry, we're going to charge you extra money, and in the back of this article it actually tells you, What it'll amount to, it's going to be about a $50 per ticket cost of Chinese flights going to Europe, and a $20 or so cost per ticket, and that's just in the first year.
And of course, we all know how these taxes work.
They always ramp up after every year.
I'm going to go back to the Financial Times article now.
The only country that does support this is the EU.
There's no other countries that are supporting this, and the EU isn't a country, it's a collection of countries.
And I'll go to number three here.
This is a trade barrier in the name of environmental protection and it constitutes an attack on the interest of travelers and international aviation industry, it says in an editorial.
It will be difficult to avoid a trade war focused on carbon tax for airlines.
Connie Hedgegard, Europe's climate commissioner, said on Wednesday that she was very satisfied with the ECJ's ruling and that she expected global airlines to respect European law.
So this is essentially a tax on breathing that the European Union wants to set the precedent for.
That they can say, hey, you're putting off too much carbon, we're going to start charging you more money.
Even though, when you look at the ice core samples from the past, we had more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere hundreds of thousands of years ago.
And there was plenty of life.
This is all about taxing you for breathing, and it's to create this new green Nazi police state that's going to keep everybody oppressed unless you're an insider.
Because I guarantee you, they're not going to be charging these billionaires money to fly around in their private jets.
They're going to be exempt from it.
It's just going to be you paying for it.
Let's go on.
The IMF urges members to boost funding under a 2010 plan.
And basically what this is, is they want, the IMF here is urging their members to start charging you more taxes so they can pay for more of these bailouts to the bigger banks.
It has nothing to do with helping the international economy in any way, unless you're a banker.
Those are the only people that are going to be saved from this.
And I think in Davos they were talking about this last year that they needed a total of $100 trillion and here they're only talking about $755 billion.
But they actually want $100 trillion total in tax money that you're going to have to pay in order to keep these banks afloat and keep these guys living high on the hog.
And now we go to some Ron Paul news.
Newt Gingrich labels Ron Paul's entire support base as people who want to legalize drugs.
So all those people out there that hold Ron Paul signs in the cold, that put Ron Paul signs up, that make Ron Paul phone calls, all the volunteers out there, nothing but a bunch of people who want to legalize drugs.
The allegation is clear.
Newt Gingrich's latest accusation that Ron Paul's volunteer base is people who want to legalize drugs is designated to create the impression that anyone who votes for Paul is at best socially irresponsible or at worst a crack-addled junkie.
And Steve Watson wrote that.
Very apropos, and there you go, there's Newt holding a big fatty right there.
He's an admitted pot smoker.
And he's called for the death sentence for people who have pot.
And this is basically, Newt is part of the system.
So if you're out there voting, or planning on voting for Newt, which not many people are because, you know, when I look around here in Austin, Texas, I don't see Newt Gingrich signs in people's yards.
I don't see new Gingrich bumper stickers.
I don't see new Gingrich t-shirts.
He is a flash in the pan, he is a man of no substance, and he doesn't really have the political support out there.
He may have the Fox News support, and he may have all this big media support, because they want somebody like him in there, because he is for the status quo.
And if you're interested in somebody who's not in the status quo, check out Ron Paul.
Because he is a man that is talking the same ideas 20 years ago.
He's predicted a lot of this stuff was going to happen, especially with the economy and the housing crisis.
And then you got Newt, who made over a million dollars as a consultant for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
That was your tax money.
We all paid Newt collectively over a million dollars to tell Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who knows what, but they were going in the tubes, so who knows what sort of consultation he gave them.
And now we get to some really spooky news here on genetically modified mosquitoes.
You may remember we played a clip on this show of Bill Gates.
He released mosquitoes into the crowd and made a chuckle about it.
Well now the Activist Post is reporting that genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in the U.S.
for the first time.
And it turns out genetically modified mosquitoes could be released in the U.S.
as early as 2012.
They're actually going to release them in Florida.
Of course, the risks these mosquitoes pose both on the environment as well as the health of all living creatures are highly unknown, leaving everyone with many more questions than answers.
We've already seen how terribly genetic modification can threaten the environment and human health, yet people are still moving forward toward a genetically modified world.
And it goes on to describe that mosquitoes are genetically modified with a gene to kill them unless they're given an antibiotic known as tetracycline.
So, one thing I do know is that bats eat a lot of mosquitoes.
So, who knows what this is going to do to the bat population after they start eating these transgenetic creatures, you know, mosquitoes that are out there.
Who knows what's going to happen once they start breeding with the population, and most of all, who knows what's going to happen once they start biting you.
Are you suddenly going to need tetracycline?
I mean, we don't know.
We don't know what these things are going to do.
So it's definitely not wise to mess with nature, yet you can't tell the mad scientists that who want to terraform the planet with chemtrails and put fluoride in your water so you stay dumb and put a lot of vaccines in your body, which leads us to this next article from CBS Detroit.
FDA clears HIV vaccine for human trials.
Well, I can tell you this.
I did a few drug studies back in college when I needed some money, but you will not find me lining up for this, for human trials for this HIV vaccine.
University of Western Ontario researcher Dr. Chih-Liang Kang said his treatment is the only one to use a whole genetically modified HIV virus that's been killed, of course, much like methods used for polio, rabies, and flu vaccines.
Let me tell you this.
If you look on any vaccine label, you get the insert that comes with it, not the little one sheet that tells you it's perfectly safe.
But if you actually read the label, this is what you need to do for any of these vaccines.
Get the insert, get you a medical dictionary and read what those side effects mean because it's written in all kinds of weird doctor language that you probably won't understand.
But the one sentence that sticks in my mind for every vaccine insert that I've ever read They all say this, and I'm going to paraphrase, but it's probably the quote, has not been tested for cancerous or mutagenic potential.
That's in every vaccine insert that I read that they wanted to stick into my kids.
Every single one of them has not been tested to see if it causes cancer.
And they do that for a reason.
Because we're going to find out 5-10 years down the road that it is these vaccines that are causing cancer and that's why our vaccine rate is high and so is our cancer rate.
They're right there neck and neck and then you look at countries like Singapore who have a very low vaccine rate and they have a very high or a very low cancer rate to go along with it.
So, there you go.
FDA clears the HIV vaccine for human trials and soon they'll be pushing it down your throat that you need it.
And not to mention, HIV is a bioweapon.
Look it up.
And now let's go to some really disturbing news.
If you weren't disturbed enough by what we just read, in Egypt, I watched this video today and it's really disturbing.
You have these cops in their global love cop armor, body armor, with their giant sticks, beating up females, kicking females in the face, beating them repeatedly after they're down on the ground, not posing anybody any harm.
They probably weren't posing anybody any harm to begin with.
But protesting their fake government that was backed by western powers.
with this arab spring so we're gonna go to a video right now you can go and roll and i'll just talk over it and it shows them severely just beating women over and over again unconscious here they are here some protesters trying to drag the women away and then there the cops go and they start wailing look at this uh...
and i believe uh...
and there's some music going on this is their plan in the background to But this is severely disturbing and this goes on and on and on.
Here he is kicking this lady in the chest who's completely passed out.
She's not a threat to anyone.
But I noticed they carry very large sticks.
You can see they're large sticks that they carry and you know I really think this just has to do with the fact that these Egyptian police have very small male genitalia.
And so they have to have these giant sticks to make up for that fact and beat on women because they're probably very insecure because their genitalia is so small.
And here they are running in fear because now the populace is fighting back.
And it's just, this is sick.
And this is what goes on here too.
I mean, we're not immune from this.
We've seen peaceful protesters here sprayed with pepper spray.
We've seen them beaten repeatedly.
And this is just a sign of the times.
This is going to increase more and more where stuff like this is going to seem common.
They're going to play it so much.
You're going to see these clips on YouTube.
And then it's not going to seem like it's a big deal after a while.
And you're going to expect it.
And it's just, it's outrageous and you can go read about it on, I think this is thedailymail.co.uk, you can, the headline is Middle East, I can't even read the head, Day of Shame in the Middle East.
Female protesters beaten with metal poles as vicious soldiers drag girls through the streets.
It's completely disgusting and shocking.
Well, it's a sign of the times.
It's what's going to be coming here to this country.
Just wait.
It hasn't already.
Moving on to some Russian-Libyan news.
Russians push to investigate Libyan civilian deaths.
The U.S.
calls it a cheap stunt.
And we reported on this back right when the invasion was happening, right when the rebellion was happening, that black Libyans were going to be targeted by this Al-Qaeda force that NATO had backed, and that special forces were assisting.
And then we go to some shots of a town called Tuairga.
And you can see blacks just laying on the ground.
They're dead.
There's more shots of them.
These are some businesses, black-owned businesses that were burned out.
Here's some blacks that are being taken to detention camps.
And here's more black civilian deaths.
And these are people who weren't fighting the war, who weren't backing either side.
But just happened to be caught in the crossfire.
There's a little boy there.
We also showed some video that McBreen put together that I really didn't want to show again because, although we should see it, the little girl with her jaw blown off and wondering why she was dying a gruesome death.
It's horrible, and there were civilian deaths, and there were a lot of civilian deaths, and NATO and the United States don't want anybody to know about it.
They want to pretend this was an honorable rebellion of people, and we all know it was al-Qaeda, and now you've got one of the governors there in Libya who's now leading the attack into Syria.
So I'm not questioning whether these regimes were good or bad or not, but, you know, putting in al-Qaeda, our supposed enemy, is that good?
Is that what we should be supporting?
I don't think so.
And now we're going to end with a bit of nice news.
Back in 2004, there was a tsunami that went through the Indian Ocean, and this girl was swept away by it.
She survived seven years living with other people and finally made it back to her home.
She was swept away seven years ago.
On Friday she broke down in tears after tracking her parents down who had long lost hope of finding her alive.
She can only remember her grandfather's name saying it was Ibrahim.
And someone tracked the man down by that name and they were unsure if it was actually his granddaughter and then they summoned her and there was a great reunion and you know I guess that just shows the enduring human spirit.
That we have, and that humans have, and that normal people have.
And hopefully we can stand up to these globalists in the coming years because, you know, 2012 is right around the corner.
It's literally a week away.
And we're going to go to break now.
We're going to show you, I guess we showed this yesterday, we premiered it yesterday, but Amy Allen, who's a musician who wrote the Ron Paul theme song back in 2008, She's going to show you how easy it is to get on your phone and make some calls and support a Ron Paul.
Call Iowa, where the caucus is going to be.
And you can do this on all the states of the upcoming caucuses.
So she shows you how easy it is.
The website's there.
It's really easy to do.
So this holiday season, when you're hanging out at your house with your relatives and you're watching football, Well, why don't you pull up your laptop or your iPhone and start making some phone calls for Ron Paul and let's see a landslide in Iowa so that the pundits can come back and say, oh, paying no attention to the landslide.
It doesn't mean anything.
You have to vote for Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney, who was just endorsed by George Bush.
So if you want to, if you vote for Mitt Romney, you're supporting George Bush and all these illegal wars that him and his son and the rest of his ilk have done against our species and the rest of the human population.
So I'm going to leave you with that.
We're going to go to break and we'll be back with one of the makers of a noble lie and one of the veteran retired police officers, Don Browning, who said the FBI threatened him just because he was asking questions.
We'll get to that and a whole lot more.
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Welcome back to InfoWars Nightly News. - Yes.
So did you get your laptop?
Are you calling?
Are you going to make some calls for Ron Paul this Christmas season when you're sitting around watching football?
Alright, now we're about to go to our interview with Don Browning and Holland Vanden Heuwenhoff, but first I want to show you a clip.
This is an excerpt from the movie, A Noble Lie, and it's Don Browning talking about the autopsy that was done on, or that wasn't done, on Terrence Yackey, who was one of the officers who got the key to the city.
He was a hero.
And then all of a sudden he ends up dead outside his car on this federal property with a gunshot wound to his head that he probably didn't give himself.
Well, there's probably a 99% chance he didn't give it to himself, yet it was ruled a suicide.
They went on and said he was drunk and drugs in his system, and then it was later revealed that, oh no, we did the toxicology test and no, he didn't have any drugs or alcohol in his system.
So this is a case of killing the messenger, somebody who saw something that he shouldn't have seen, and the FBI made sure he didn't say anything about it.
And also I want to give a quick shout out to my two boys who are watching tonight.
How y'all doing?
But now let's go to this clip, and then we're going to bring in Don Browning, retired OKC K9 unit police officer, and Holland Vanden Neuwenhoff, one of the researchers and producers of A Noble Lie.
Let's go to that clip.
One of the things that surprised me was that there was no autopsy performed.
The other thing that really bothered me was we were being told that Terry was high on drugs and drunk and of course the medical examiner's office did a report on Terry and his injuries which was really not an autopsy but just a An overview.
And it showed that his BAC was zero.
Meaning no blood alcohol content.
There was no drugs in his system.
It bothered me that they didn't treat Terry like a police officer like he was.
He was a good guy.
A deputy sheriff recorded this footage during one of the evacuations.
Here the ATF is seen pulling out several weapons and blocks of what appeared to be plastic explosive.
Was this the source of the bomb scare?
Or did this ordinance come from an illegal armory that witnesses report the ATF kept in the Murrah building?
The ATF denies they kept any weapons or explosives in the building.
And you just saw an excerpt from A Noble Lie with an interview with Don Browning, retired OKC police officer, and then we went into what is being referred to as the Sumter tape, and that was just a little snippet of some tape that was shot during the rescue effort, and it shows In verifiable proof of ATF agents removing guns and what appears to be plastic explosives from the rubble.
And so without further ado, we turn to our guests.
We have Holland Vanden Neuwenhoff and Don Browning, OKC retired police officer.
Fellas, how are you doing today?
Great, excellent.
When you guys left off with Alex's interview yesterday, Alex was talking about how come not more of the police officers came out and you were saying you felt that you didn't have enough to circle the wagons.
Why don't you elaborate on that a little more?
How many officers during the time that you were in contact with felt that something was fishy, something was going on?
I think maybe any that were really outspoken was less than a half a dozen.
I had good friends that I really felt I could trust become really irritated with me and I refused to even speak about the bombing.
So it was kind of a disappointing time frame as well as being a cautious time frame.
About who you did talk to and who you'd believe with what information that you got.
And at any point did you guys get together and formulate a plan if you were going to come forward what you were going to say or did it even make it into that stages?
I never really made it into that stages.
There was one or two that I really held as confidence.
Especially when I was getting ready to go to the grand jury over Terry Yakey and some of the other issues.
Even by then I was warned that I really needed to be careful.
And was this really something that I was willing to do career wise more than anything else.
How long did you stay on the force after OKC?
I retired in 1999, so four years, almost five years later.
The wind had gone out of my sails and I just really did not enjoy the job anymore.
more right and and then I guess I'm just trying to trace your path of when you started to talk about this more when when did you start doing interviews and talking to people I know Alex Jones I think he's interviewed you in the past and and then the okc guys were making a noble lie pretty much started I guess within the first couple two or three weeks beginning with JDK
Cash on into Roger Charles and some of the other ones that were doing some investigative work to start with.
And did you work with Charles Key at all during his investigation?
Yes, sir.
I did make meetings with him.
However, at that time I was told that I needed to cease my contacts that I was having, that I was running with the wrong group, that I apparently was part of the militia.
And that I was being monitored.
So I did not want to bring any heat down on Charles or BZ or any of the guys, Hoppy, any of the ones that were really in the forefront of this.
So I did curtail as much as I could meetings with them.
And so, you said that in Alex's interview about how people were saying you were in a militia.
Was the mode going around at the time, like if you had anything to do with any type of militia movement, you were deemed a suspect, I guess?
To a degree.
At least that you didn't hold the same views as what the government viewpoint was on especially the bombing.
and persons that were behind it. - Mm-hmm.
And Holland, when did you guys start interviewing Don for the movie and how has that kind of progressed into his story fitting into some of the pieces?
You know, there's a lot of pieces to this story.
How does Don fit into this for you guys in the film? - Well, I mean, this has been an interesting process because I started out just as a researcher And so I was reading all these names and studying up on the bombing.
Then I meet State Representative Charles Key.
I meet Don Browning.
I've read about these men's work before, so that was very interesting to go through that.
Don Browning, I mean, he took part in the rescue and recovery from day one, from hour one.
And he was one of the first to raise questions.
He was an Oklahoma City police officer.
He's also a former Marine, a veteran of Vietnam.
I'm also a former Marine, so we formed kind of a connection there.
But it's, you know, we're dealing with a very...
Could be called crazy information or something like that, but when you're talking about police officers, state representatives who are presenting evidence that there was something wrong with the bombing, that there was foreknowledge, that there were warnings, that there were other bombs in the building.
This is my hometown.
It is our duty to try to find out what happened.
168 people were killed in Oklahoma City that we know of.
There was an extra leg found in the rubble that no one knows who that leg belongs to.
And that person, whoever that was, remains unacknowledged by the official account whatsoever.
There are so many unanswered questions.
There are so many people who died as a result of this.
During the bombing and after, several witnesses have been killed.
Terry Yakey, Dr. Plumlee, a lot of other people, and we need to find out what happened, because if we don't find out what happened, and who ultimately is responsible, it's going to happen again, and it's going to get worse.
Yeah, I agree.
And the next one, it's not going to be pretty.
They've got the infrastructure set up to really come down on anybody who's outspoken against the government for any reason.
Yeah, I mean, they just passed the NDAA, where they can detain American citizens in the homeland, which is counted as a battlefield.
Well, I'm on that list.
Our website has been classified as a domestic extremist terrorism website.
But it doesn't do anything.
We just sell books through it.
I mean, that's all it is.
So under the new law that's being passed, I, Don, people who ask questions, his life has already been threatened for asking questions.
Now it's going to become legal.
To snatch you, literally snatch you up off the streets if you ask questions about the official story.
And that's why the Noble Lie is so important because this is used, they waved the bloody shirt of Oklahoma City to invoke all these police state powers.
But they don't actually go after the perpetrators, they use it against the American people.
Right, right.
The investigation seemed to be the afterthought.
What seemed to be more on the forefront was getting this new terrorist legislation passed at the time.
Don, let's go back to OKC.
What were you actually doing on that morning before the bombing went off?
I was at my residence.
Wednesday night was our canine training evening.
I normally would work a day shift, so what I would do is sleep in late on Wednesday morning and prepare to train all night Wednesday evening.
I was at my residence.
Built the house shake.
Interestingly, we had had an earthquake a month prior to that, so I thought it was just another earth tremor.
And then almost immediately the phone was ringing and warning canine units downtown.
Right.
And so from the time it happened to the time you arrived, how much time had elapsed during that point?
Probably 35 to 40 minutes.
And then, you know, with the dog, you're not really doing much rescue.
Were you looking for bodies or bombs?
What was the purpose of the dog?
When we first arrived at the scene, of course I exited the vehicle with the dog, and that very intent was to look for victims.
However, we were told to take the dogs away from the scene, to put them back in the car, so that if we were going to help with any of the recovery, we were going to have to do it alone.
So that's one way they impeded the rescue effort right there.
Yes, sir.
Okay, continue.
Go ahead.
We did put the dogs up, came back in.
There was two other K-9 officers, Ron Burks and Randy Claypool, were there at the scene with me at that time.
We went back.
I think it was a fire chief grabbed Randy and had him guard a door that would be close to where the daycare center was on the south side to not allow any admission into it.
It was a pretty sure drop off from that point.
Berks and I did go back down into the Bowser building and again worked in that area around Dana Bradley trying to secure debris in that area to keep it from shifting while they were working on her recovery.
Okay.
And then when did the bomb threats at that point start coming in where they found the second and third bomb that was reported on television?
There was one of those that already occurred at that point.
The second one came shortly thereafter.
But again, like I said, I had already talked to one of our bomb techs and he had told me that it was a toy bomb, that nothing really to be worried about.
So I wasn't really concerned about evacuating the building.
And of course, at that point, we really didn't feel like we had any choice but to stay where we were at.
What kinds of things were the government officials doing, or government servants I should say, what were they doing during this rescue effort?
What kind of presence were they having on the building?
More monitoring than anything else.
U.S.
Marshals were, it was interesting, it was really scrutinizing who was in the building.
At one point, unless you were a Oklahoma City firefighter, they were not going to allow you to be inside and we were actually ordered out of the building by a federal marshal.
We're in uniform.
We're easily identified as Oklahoma City Police officers.
That had no bearing.
We went ahead and disregarded him.
Stayed until we did have enough help down there to where we were to the point we felt we could leave the building.
Get ready to get the dogs.
They were forming up search teams through the fire department and we were going to coordinate with them.
But about the same time everybody was ordered out of the building and that's when we were more or less sequestered in the courtyard area and eventually was told by a blonde female FBI agent or at least had an FBI raid jacket on that until files that were so critical to the government were located there would be no more recovery performed.
And this is while people are bleeding inside the building.
They actually stopped the evacuation to recover these documents.
Yeah, I remember watching the news footage, the raw news footage that was off VHS tape that was in Alex's film, 9-11 Road to Tyranny, and that probably more than even the 9-11 information woke me up because I remember Oklahoma City vividly.
I was 15 at the time.
And it really, it kind of burned me up after seeing all this footage and then seeing, you know, it was one truck bomb, no one else was involved, it was one lone nut with an accomplice, and then you go back and actually look at the evidence and the evidence is, you know, you guys have gone over the evidence.
Let's talk about a few things.
Let's talk about the surveillance cameras.
You guys talked about that on Alex's show.
Yes, sir.
I was real familiar with the Federal Bureau of the Murrah Building because prior to being in the K-9 unit, I was in the motor patrol.
If we had dignitary coming into town, such as the President or Vice President, we would meet with Secret Service there in the Murrah Building and go over that itinerary.
But was in and around that building frequently and saw all the cameras that were mounted both on the north and south side and particularly on the corners of the building.
The morning of the bombing when we were sequestered there in the courtyard there were FBI agents or men in FBI raid jackets that brought a ladder around and they were removing not only the cameras and the housings but actually the wire from the corners of the building and taking the cameras down.
So to make it appear like there were no cameras there, or just to take the whole unit out?
At the time, I thought they were... I didn't, of course, wasn't really thinking.
I was assuming they were just securing evidence.
I never dreamed that it would come out to the point that, no, they never existed.
So, as an afterthought, it may have even been like they were trying to conceal evidence.
Yes, sir.
In fact, one of our witnesses, Mike Nations, who lived in the Regency Tower, he observed a couple days or a week before the bombing Tim McVeigh at a phone booth with another man, a John Doe No.
2.
Mike went to the FBI and told them about this.
Their response was to go down and remove the phone booth From that corner.
They actually took out the phone booth in response to Mike saying, I saw McVeigh there, I'm 100% sure it was him, and he had a partner.
Wow.
And so now if the phone booth doesn't exist, the story doesn't have any corroboration.
Exactly.
Interesting.
There's also reports of the horse patrols being mobilized.
Did you actually see this, Don, when you were on-site?
No, sir.
I saw them on-site and talking with friends who were in the office together between the K-9 and the Kauai units.
We officed in the same building.
I was curious how they had gotten there so soon because they form up with the Reserve Deputy Program and respond as a mutual aid type thing to larger events.
And they were all down there that morning.
Later when I actually had a chance to talk, I was curious as to why they came down.
We were just coming down for the day just to work the downtown area, which was not normal for them.
They did not form up, unless there was a special event, they did not have the, especially the reserve deputies, those guys had other jobs besides law enforcement, and they were donating their time.
So it was kind of ironic that they were all down there together that morning to do nothing but just ride around downtown Oklahoma City.
Right.
Did you ever provide testimony to a grand jury or any investigators?
Were you even called as a witness at any point?
Yes sir.
I did go to the grand jury twice and then testified against McVeigh and Nichols both in Denver.
And what exactly did you testify against Nichols about?
Primarily it was just the aftermath of the bombing itself.
Same with McVeigh.
You never actually saw Timothy McVeigh at the Murrah Building?
No, sir.
No, sir.
Well, let's get into the FBI threats.
You said they came up and threatened you personally on several occasions.
Why don't you describe that for the audience out there who's watching?
Yes, sir.
At one point, probably four to six weeks after the actual recovery effort had ended, They set up a mobile communication post, the FBI did, at our canine client center.
They were using our facility pretty frequently, both between the offices and the trailer they had set up.
It was not uncommon for one of the newer agents to come through the hallway.
I would be pointed out by one of the other agents that, yeah, that's him there.
That's Browning.
And then as they were there, in passing in the hallway, I would be told by one or two different agents that I need to be careful that people like my wife and I ended up dead.
That's incredible.
Holland, what's your response to that?
Well, outrage, honestly.
This is the FBI.
These are federal investigators.
They're supposed to be trying to solve the greatest mass murder at that time in American history.
But what they do spend time doing is threatening local police officers, threatening their families' lives.
And this tells you what their mission, their mission was not to solve the case.
Their mission was to cover up.
Let's go over a laundry list.
happened was not to bring those who were responsible to justice.
And to do so to preserve their own position, they're threatening good men's lives and their family.
That tells you the nature of what is going on here.
And let's just go over some of their evidence cover-up that you guys go over in the movie.
Let's go over a laundry list.
What did the FBI do to really thwart the investigation?
Well, obviously the videotapes.
The videotapes recorded everything that happened.
There were dozens, hundreds.
In fact, we interview the man who duplicated the tapes all in order from the FBI.
He wasn't allowed to view the footage.
They would wheel it in on dollies.
Two armed agents would watch while he put the tapes in and duplicated them, and he was not allowed to watch them.
Then those armed agents would wheel the tapes out at the end of the day and take them back to the office.
This lasted two to three weeks of eight, nine hour days of recording videotapes.
Obviously a lot or most of those tapes have nothing but some of them have something and some of them recorded what exactly happened in front of the Murrah Building.
Don is talking about the FBI taking down the tapes during the evacuations while people are bleeding to death inside.
They're taking down the tapes and now they claim the tapes don't exist or that they can't find them.
They can't find the tapes or that the ones that can find cannot be released due to national security.
What is the threat to national security?
To find out exactly what happened at the Moor building despite the fact what it would cause is a case of national insecurity.
If people knew from day one, from day one that the federal government knew there were more people involved and lied about it, the people would be outraged.
They cannot allow that to get out.
Yeah, national security at this point should not be an excuse because Well, they supposedly killed Tim McVeigh.
Terry Nichols is in jail.
Those were the only two guys involved according to the official story.
So, what would be the harm?
You know, that's usually the icing on the cake.
They always come out with the tape later after the case is done.
Here's all the tapes.
Here's what they show.
And there was even an investigation at one point.
I remember watching an old news clip where they interviewed people who had saw tapes and they were talking about John Doe number two that supposedly didn't exist after a two-day manhunt.
Yes, several FBI offices were leaking information to the media that they had seen the tapes, that there were other people involved.
But as the story became managed, that information was shut off and we were never allowed to see the tapes.
I mean, almost every day I have to watch airliners crashing into the Twin Towers.
Almost every day I have to see that.
How come we can't see what happened in front of the Murrah Building?
Right.
Well, the same reason why you can't see what happened in front of the Pentagon.
Except for two frames.
Yeah.
Don, did you participate in the manhunt for John Doe No.
2 that ended up being called off?
No sir, other than, I think what was confusing to me at first was when they first started putting out the descriptions, in particular that first day, descriptions that they gave us and were broadcast to all law enforcement in a five state area, they later told us was disinformation and it was only to throw the press off.
Again, you're hampering all law enforcement in that big quadrant of the United States.
Going after a wild goose chase, essentially.
Going after an intentional wild goose chase.
Sure.
That information that led to that original witness description was from Local PD.
Yeah.
And those were the suspects.
And as the federal government came in and took control of the investigation, that description, they labeled it disinformation so people would stop following it.
Those actually were the suspects.
They were seen running from the scene, getting into a brown pickup truck, speeding from the scene.
One car was en route to Dallas.
Those people were arrested with bomb-making material in Dallas.
They were let go.
The story does not hold up to scrutiny whatsoever.
The official story of the Oklahoma City bombing is a complete whitewash and does not hold up to the weight of evidence whatsoever.
Right.
Well, Holland, the film's been out less than a month now.
What kind of reaction are you guys getting from other people, filmmakers?
What are the plans for this film, A Noble Lie?
Well, the reaction we're getting is stunned disbelief that all of this could happen right under our noses and the media and the government does not tell us about it.
A lot of people who knew some funny things about the bombing, they knew a couple things were wrong.
They were not aware of the weight of evidence and how documented it was that the official story is wrong and is a lie.
They were stunned by the quality of information.
We've shown this to skeptics.
We've shown this to people who, you know, think I'm crazy and they walk away and they're like, uh, the government did it.
I was like, yeah.
And now we're not saying that the government did it.
What we're saying is that they knew it was going down.
That is obvious.
They knew McVeigh was going to do it.
They watched it happen.
For some reason, they didn't stop it.
And the cover-up after that, it's not that every street agent, every FBI agent on the scene is trying to cover up government complicity.
It was their truck.
It was their informant.
It was their bomb.
How are they going to explain to the American people that something went wrong and their truck, their bomb, and their informant killed 168 people?
They were in the agency.
Right, and since then, every FBI entrapped bomb maker or bomb plotter, they've been given deliberately fake bombs we've seen, or bombs that wouldn't work, or they get stopped before it even comes to fruition.
I remember seeing an article about the guy with the remote control bomb, but he was getting it from the FBI and the informant.
They were providing him the materials to create this remote controlled airplane bomb.
You know, did you see that story?
Do you have any comments on that?
Oh yes, yes.
When you're looking at the last couple years, all these FBI sting operations on terrorist operations, what usually happens is it's like an unemployed drifter, he gets on a jihadi website and he starts talking trash about the U.S.
government.
And then someone approaches him and they start cultivating a relationship.
Well, that person obviously is an FBI undercover informant or an agent trying to cultivate this disgruntled loner.
And then they give him a job.
They brainwash him into wanting to bomb something in the United States.
They tell him to do it.
They give him fake bombs.
Then they give him the cell phone to set it off.
Then they arrest him.
That obviously is entrapment.
If the FBI had left these people alone, they'd still be working in McDonald's.
That's all they'd be doing.
They wouldn't be trying to bomb things.
But the danger of that is, if they ever try to make this go live again, all they have to do is take one of these existing sting operations.
They're going on right now all over the country.
It's like every two weeks they arrest someone for trying to bomb something.
These operations are going off all the time.
For an operation to go live, all they have to do next time is to fake explosives, put in real ones.
And then let it happen.
Yeah, and then be right there all of a sudden with a description and a suspect that they've apprehended and it's all nice and neat and fits into their little dandy tale.
I was having a discussion two nights ago with a relative who came in to visit and you know, You know, I said, what are your thoughts on OKC?
And he goes, well, you know, Timothy McVeigh, we got him.
I said, well, and I started going into the evidence and the blast wave and the debris ending up on the other side of the blast wave, which is a physical impossibility.
And then the other evidence with the tapes and Terrence Yakey being killed.
And we'll go into that in a second.
And he said, well, why do you think they would do this?
My answer, and at a gut level, I feel it's some sick form of job security.
The more terror they can create and keep out there, the more money they get for body scanners and militarized weapons and all this stuff to supposedly make us feel safe, which doesn't really make us feel safe, but it enriches these people who create this type of stuff.
Yeah, we have the underwear bomber, and the next week after that, they're rolling out the naked body scanners, which have already been ordered.
So yeah, it is.
In 1995, there was a whole lot of job insecurity going on in the federal government.
People were upset with the two-party system we see with the popularity of the Ross Perot campaign.
Oliver Stone's JFK had just been released.
People were finally beginning to understand the nature of their government.
And people were upset.
Waco, Ruby Ridge, the ATF and the FBI were facing heavy heat.
People were talking about dissolving the ATF.
That could not be allowed to happen.
No.
Could not be allowed to happen.
And you're right.
I'm going to steal that phrase.
It probably is a sick form of job security.
Yeah, it really is.
Don, since you've retired, you've seen the police become militarized.
How do you feel about that?
I regret it.
Relished in the thought that they referred to us as peace officers when I first hired Owen, and to the point now that the common phrase is police officers, but they have become very militaristic and almost standoffish from the public themselves.
I regret it.
I don't understand why there has been the change that there is.
The rank-and-file officer probably is not enjoying his career nearly like what myself and my generation of police officers did.
And Don is not, you know, Don carried a machine gun in the jungles of Vietnam.
Right.
So he knows what the difference between war and peace.
He's done both.
And as a peace officer, he wants to secure the peace.
He doesn't want to He doesn't want to fight the American people, and that's what a lot of the police are doing these days.
They have tanks, they have drones, and they're viewing the American people as the enemy.
Well, actually, the homeland is now the battlefield.
Yeah, yeah.
They've just moved the battlefield from Iraq and Afghanistan over to the United States where they can have 330 million plus more victims.
Before we end this, let's get into Terry Yakey.
How good of friends were you with him?
Were you guys talking about this stuff during the investigation?
Yes sir, we were talking about it.
We were not socially extremely close friends.
Workmates, yeah, and supportive of one another very much so.
To the point that I would tease Terry and he would tease back, especially after his picture came out on Newsweek, that he was my hero and I appreciated what he had done.
But again, Terry had a little bit of a closed side, such as I did, that there were some things that you just were very cautious about talking to other police officers about.
Because you don't know who's on which side at that point.
Exactly.
I've had two police officers actually come up to me out of the blue, because I was actually passing out some flyers on the Oklahoma City bombing at an event.
They were working security there.
And they were from a different jurisdiction.
And they walked up to me, and they saw what I was doing, and they said, hey, remember that Oklahoma City cop?
I was like, who?
And they said, the one that was found in that field?
I was like, yeah.
And the police officer said, yeah, I think they killed him.
And I was like, well, yeah, I know.
I mean, the message was sent to law enforcement and the first responders, keep your mouth shut or we will kill you.
That was the literal lesson.
Right.
And what was the reaction around the office when that happened, when they found Terry Aki and they said, oh, it's a suicide?
There was a lot of disbelief.
We were told, even by our chaplain, that Terry was drunk and was high on drugs at the time of his death.
That didn't fit, Terry.
And when the ME report was released, it showed no blood alcohol content, no drugs in the system.
But by that time they'd already had the story out that he was drunk and high, and that had been playing around for weeks.
Yes sir, and it was related to marital trouble.
They slandered his character.
The superiors within the police department slandered his character after he died.
Before he died, he was a hero.
He was a hero.
He was three days away from receiving the Medal of Valor, the highest award the department can offer.
And then after he dies, suddenly Terry's a scumbag.
Right.
Makes you wonder.
Geez.
You know, and who knows what kind of evidence he had if he would have been able to bring it forward and what they got from him.
Well, when his car was found in El Reno, the patrolman reported that there were several boxes of documents in the back seat.
When that car was processed for evidence, there was no mention of anything in that car, document-wise.
How convenient.
Well Don, I want to give you the last word on this.
I want you to look out and talk to people, especially police officers, who may know of this stuff or may have been in on a cover-up or something.
I mean, what do you have to tell them, you know, in order for us to get this country back?
We have to start telling the truth and coming up with this.
I want to give you the last word to tell, you know, What are your final feelings on, you know, coming forward and what other people should do if they feel like they know something and that, you know, they should bring it forward?
What do you want to say?
I would say to them that our integrity and loyalty are the only two things that we have to sell to the American public.
And if we cannot maintain those, then we should not be police officers.
That's not the involvement work field that we should be in and if we can't be true to this the public at least we should try to be true to ourselves and I regret it.
Yeah, I totally agree.
Well, guys, I thank you for joining us.
It was about a 30 minute interview we just did and that's great.
I really think this information, it's time for it to come out again and I think people are ready for it now because they've seen the utter corruption that's going on in their face, the stealing, You know, the police brutality that's going on and people are ready to be woken up and this is just another pill, you know, to help do that.
So I want to thank you for coming on the show and we're definitely gonna have you guys on in the future and promote this film.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Well, and that was Holland Vanden Neuwenhof and Don Browning, retired OKC police officer, and of course you can get A Noble Lie here at the Info Wars store.
It's available.
1995.
I think they're in their second pressing now, so it's getting a flood of popularity out there, and this is something you really need to show, as Alex has said, to police officers, to military people, people who don't believe in the official story.
Sit down and say, well look, if you don't believe in the official story, Let's sit down for two hours, watch this film, and then talk about it.
That's all you need.
Two hours, and if you still don't believe it after watching this film, fine, I won't bother you anymore.
But I think you're going to find people who have common sense, and who have dignity, and who have honesty, and they've just had the wool pulled over their eyes.
You know, they're going to come to that realization, and we're going to have more people out there who know the truth, and who are ready to take it, you know, to the next level, because we're going to have to keep talking about these kinds of things until we stop the corruption and You know, and take our country back for what the founders meant it to be, a place of liberty and freedom, where people can come and do what they want, and make the money that they want, and do the things that they want, fulfill their dreams.
And, you know, that's pretty much all I have to say.
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