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Sept. 10, 2024 - America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes
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Presidential Debate #2: TRUMP VS KAMALA
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donald j trump
Sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business.
unidentified
The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong, the more certain you should
be that you must keep pushing ahead.
you Because it's the outsiders who change the world and who make a real and lasting difference.
donald j trump
Nothing worth doing ever came easy.
unidentified
Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation.
donald j trump
The future belongs to the people who follow their heart no matter what the critics say.
unidentified
We must always remember that we share one home and one glorious destiny.
donald j trump
We all bleed the same red blood of patriots.
We all salute the same great American flag.
unidentified
Our best days are yet to come.
I am officially running for President of the United States.
We need a leader.
I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.
It would be wonderful if you have smart people.
But we have people that are stupid.
The American dream is dead.
But if I get elected president, I will bring it back, bigger and better and stronger than ever before.
The American Dream.
And we will make America great again.
And we will make America great again.
We will make America great again.
And we will make America great again.
We will make America great again.
We want Trump! We want Trump!
We want Trump! We want Trump!
And nobody builds walls better than me, believe me. Bigger and better and stronger than ever before. And we will make
America great again.
Thank you, thank you very much. And we will make America great again.
And we will make America great again.
We want Trump! We want Trump!
We want Trump!
But as soon as people start playing games, I stop.
I stop playing games.
And at any moment, I could hit that yay button.
They said trust no man, but you're not a man.
So here you go, take those in your pocket.
I said change from girls to the underdog.
My mama said trust no ho, you so rubber.
I asked, what to?
Stop the track.
I'm in the reverse.
Action.
See Ricky said, do it right.
I'm on the phone.
Look at all the gold.
Do the one on.
OK, bring it in.
I'm out.
is You see, I can't be dead to you, but it's a test.
Not my words, not my rules.
I just enforce them.
All right?
They say trust no man, but you gotta say you'll never leave your dead boss.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Mama said trust no ho, you so gotta know.
They say trust no man, but you gotta say you'll never leave your dead boss.
Last time was the sky, oh, oh, oh, everything, warming up.
Everybody I
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See Well, hey, thanks, love you too, but sorry, I believe in a religion that makes sense, so... Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Donald Trump were all cut from the same cloth, and that cloth is very, very large.
donald j trump
It's not too big, is it?
unidentified
It's wrong, isn't it?
It feels so right.
It's a deal?
It's wrong, isn't it?
It feels so right.
It's a deal?
I put together some really impressive deals.
I like that.
Go big or go home.
Donald Trump.
You know, you're really beautiful.
A woman that looks like that has to have a little special scent.
It's the dog.
Oh my God.
Hey, Donald.
Oh my God, this is amazing.
Great.
Thank you very much.
I'm done with it, it's disgusting.
Listen, are you begging here?
Huh? Are you?
No, I'm just mad. I'm so embarrassed.
No.
Look at this, right here on this street, it's Donald Trump!
You know who he was?
Donald Trump!
The man is here!
Come on, come on, come on!
Everything's set for tonight, Mr. Trump.
I wonder what Trump's game is this time.
Trump's got a new day, Trump's got a new deal.
What's your game, though? Heard about Trump's new deal?
Mr. Trump!
Trump has a new game. What is it?
Mr. Trump!
No contentions tonight, Mr. Trump!
My new game is Trump the game.
Trump the game.
Trump the game.
This sounds like political presidential talk.
You said, though, that if you did run for president, you'd believe you'd win.
I would say that I would have a hell of a chance of winning.
I'd never go on to lose.
I've never gone on to lose in my life.
I don't know how your audience feels, but I think people are tired of seeing the United States ripped off.
That's the guy in the car, right?
Captain.
Thank you.
I wouldn't doubt it.
Okay, kids, make it fast.
donald j trump
I've got a plane to get to.
unidentified
Jimmy, crazy night again.
Mr. Trump, uh, if you do a sketchy, so- I don't know what that's about.
I don't know what that's about.
nick fuentes
That's what people always say, isn't it?
unidentified
They say, can we really go back?
nick fuentes
And the answer is, whether you're conservative or liberal, right what you're left with, the answer is no.
We're never going back.
unidentified
It's done.
It's gone.
All of that is gone.
nick fuentes
But I would call myself something like a Christian futurist instead, because Jesus Christ was our past before any of us were born or conceived.
Jesus Christ is our present now and Jesus Christ is our future after we die on earth.
unidentified
We want this century to be the most Christian century in the history of planet earth.
We love everybody.
And we want people that can grow, really, more than anybody.
But this country can no longer be held hostage by a small minority that doesn't believe in the real value of life.
The mission of our movement is to make this country a Christian country.
nick fuentes
The mission is to create a Christian, The only way we're going to do it is not by infiltrating, not by subverting, not by lying, which is what a lot of people do.
unidentified
The only way that we're going to make this happen is with the boldness of a real Christian.
That's the only way.
We have to want it more than they do.
Because if there are thousands and millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Christians
ready to meet their final destiny, then nothing can stop us and nothing will.
We've been put on notice, if you fuck around with us, if you do something bad to us,
we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.
donald j trump
Don't sit yet, you're like this.
unidentified
We are the world's biggest hate law organization.
Conscious, globalist, Marxist, capitalist.
Communists who are attacking our civilization have no idea of the sleeping giant they have awoken.
They cannot even begin to imagine the brave and righteous spirit they've unleashed in men and women.
But they're going to find out the hard way.
They will find out like never before.
This nation belongs to you.
Belongs to you.
It's not too late.
donald j trump
It was patriots like you that built this country.
And it's patriots like you that are going to save our country.
unidentified
To all of those who think that they can coerce and subjugate the citizens of this land, hear these words.
For me, tonight, the people of America will not surrender our borders.
We will not surrender our culture.
We will not surrender our faith.
We will not surrender our values.
We will not surrender our history.
We will not surrender our liberty.
And above all, we will not surrender our children.
We are done with their distorted visions for America.
donald j trump
It's time to start talking about greatness for our country again.
unidentified
We want our country to be great again.
donald j trump
We want our country to be respected.
unidentified
I don't want to see any love in your face.
What's the point of being so selfish?
What's the point of doing what I want to do?
What's the point of wasting my time for a waste?
The time for action has come.
As long as we are led by politicians who will not put America first,
then we can be assured that other nations will not treat America with respect,
the respect that we deserve.
donald j trump
We will not be swayed by the media.
Together, we have the same mission.
Over the course of your life, you will find that things are not always fair.
You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted.
But you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight.
Never, ever, ever give up.
Don't give in, don't back down, and never stop doing what you know is right.
Nothing worth doing ever, ever, ever came easy.
And the more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face.
In your hearts are inscribed the values of service, sacrifice, and devotion.
Now you must go forth into the world and turn your hopes and dreams into action.
America has always been the land of dreams because America is a nation of true believers.
When the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth, They prayed.
When the founders wrote the Declaration of Independence, they invoked our creator four times.
Because in America, we don't worship government.
We worship God.
It is why our currency proudly declares, in God we trust.
And it's why we proudly proclaim that we are one nation under God.
The story of America is the story of an adventure that began with deep faith, big dreams, and humble beginnings.
The next generation of American leaders, never, ever give up.
unidentified
There'll be times in your life you'll want to quit.
Never quit.
donald j trump
Never stop fighting for what you believe in and for the people who care about you.
Carry yourself with dignity and pride.
unidentified
Demand the best from yourself.
The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong.
Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation.
Relish the opportunity to be an outsider the more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong.
The more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead.
You must keep pushing forward.
And always have the courage to be yourself.
donald j trump
America is better when people put their faith into action.
Pray to God.
And follow his teachings.
Today, each of you begins a new chapter as well.
When your story goes from here, it will be defined by your vision, your perseverance, and your grit.
You will build a future where we have the courage to chase our dreams no matter what the cynics and the doubters have to say.
unidentified
You will have the confidence to speak the hopes in your hearts and to express the love that stirs your souls.
donald j trump
As long as you have pride in your beliefs, courage in your convictions, and faith in God, Then you will not fail.
As long as America remains true to its values, loyal to its citizens, and devoted to its creator,
then our best days are yet to come.
unidentified
Oh, America!
donald j trump
May God bless the United States of America.
And I just want to let you know that God blesses you.
And I want to just say you are special in every way.
God bless you and God bless America.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
We are going to make our country great again.
Thank you.
I'm sorry, I'm amazing Hair always whippin' around
So high up, you're my genie I don't care if I ever come down
I don't care if I ever come down I don't care if I ever come down
Yeah Yeah
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Now it's time for new Believable people
donald j trump
And we must do it If we don't control insiders
This will be over and over To lead by an eddy
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Big, fat, love, find common ground To halt the spread of lies
And we must do it Big, fat, love, find common ground
To halt the spread of lies America first! America first! America first! America first!
America first.
Non-fatal.
We want to build a much better, believable people.
donald j trump
And we must do it non-fatal.
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To lead it by an A. Insiders fighting for insiders.
Time to stop.
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Insiders fighting for insiders.
Time to stop.
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donald j trump
And we must do it non-fatal.
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donald j trump
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Time to stop.
Insiders fighting for insiders.
More of.
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Time to stop.
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donald j trump
America first!
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President Obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States.
At real Donald Trump.
Well, at real Donald Trump.
At least I will go down as a president.
Now America is once again Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people.
Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new
donald j trump
government controlled by you, the American people.
unidentified
We will make America great again.
I love this country.
It's payback time.
We're going to do it again.
It's payback time.
We're gonna take our country back from these people.
He will never be president.
I will win.
For Spain.
for someone.
We're gonna win at so many levels.
We're gonna win, win, win.
We will make America great again.
I love you.
You're a hero.
Mr. President-elect?
You're a hero.
You know the ones who stand against us are the ones who give up.
You were out of my league, all the things I believed.
You were just the right guy, yeah, you were more than just a dream.
You were out of my league, got my heart beat racing.
If I die, don't wake me, cause you were more than just a dream.
You were more than just a dream.
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So Sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business.
The End The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong, the more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead.
Because it's the outsiders who change the world, and who make a real and lasting difference.
donald j trump
Nothing worth doing ever came easy.
unidentified
Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation.
donald j trump
The future belongs to the people who follow their heart, no matter what the critics say.
unidentified
We must always remember that we share one home, And one glorious destiny.
donald j trump
We all bleed the same red blood of patriots.
We all salute the same great American flag.
unidentified
Our best days are yet to come.
I am officially running for President of the United States.
We need a leader.
I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.
It can be wonderful if you have smart people.
But we have people that are stupid.
The American dream is dead.
But if I get elected president, I will bring it back.
Bigger and better and stronger than ever before.
The American dream.
And we will make America great again.
We will make America great again.
And we will make America great again.
We will make America great again.
We want Trump!
We want Trump!
And nobody builds walls better than me, believe me.
Bigger and better and stronger than ever before.
And we will make America great again.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
We will make America great again.
We will make America great again.
And we will make America great again.
America great again.
donald j trump
Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo.
unidentified
It's a good thing.
donald j trump
It's going to be only America first.
unidentified
America first.
The American people will come first once again.
With respect, the respect that we deserve.
From this day forward, it's going to be only America first.
America first!
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nick fuentes
You Good evening, everybody.
You are watching America First.
My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes.
We have a great stream for you here tonight.
We're going to be watching the second presidential debate, Kamala versus Trump.
It's the moment you've all been waiting for.
And we're very excited.
It's... Is it really an hour away?
I thought it was... I thought it was at 7 o'clock.
But I guess it's at eight.
Countdown says an hour and nine.
I thought it was maybe I got Eastern Central Time wrong.
We're an hour away from the second presidential debate.
We're going to be talking all about the debate tonight, and then it's going to happen.
We're going to watch it.
We're going to do a little live analysis.
It's going to be a fun night.
Very exciting.
And we'll see who's in the live chat.
Check in in the live chat if you're here, if we have any e-celebrities.
Do we have any Groipers in the live chat?
Say what's up.
How's it going, guys?
They said 8 Eastern.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
They said 8 Eastern, which is in 10 minutes, so I don't know if the timer's off.
What's going on, everybody?
We got Irish Groiper.
We got NJF36 Sox Groiper.
Dutch Farmer.
Finn the Groiper, one of my favorites.
Shifty2.
Nathan Bunnell.
I don't think that's a real one.
Fischreuper.
There he is, of course.
Wizardly Woodchuck.
What's up?
PilotZoomer.
Everybody's here.
What's going on?
Everyone is here.
It's a huge night.
This is our second presidential debate.
Trump versus Kamala, who do you got?
Let's take a quick poll, and we're going to tune into some of the pre-game talk, and we'll talk a little bit about what we're going to see tonight.
But I want to take a quick poll while it's fresh, at the beginning.
Who do you guys think is going to win?
Just say Trump or Kamala.
Who do you think it's going to be?
I gave a little prediction last night during the Super Chats, informally, and I said I think Kamala's gonna win the debate.
Okay, it's actually kind of hard to see.
Say one for Trump, two for Kamala.
One if you think Trump will win the debate, two if you think Kamala will win.
Because the chat is moving so fast, I can't even read.
People are saying Trump or Kamala.
That didn't make it better.
Everyone's saying... Okay, it's still moving too fast.
Looks like a lot of ones, a lot of twos.
It's kind of mixed.
It's pretty mixed, actually.
I think it's about 50-50.
It's about 50-50.
Some say Trump, some say Kamala.
I don't know.
And what time actually is this debate?
Is it at?
I swore they said it was 8 o'clock Eastern Time.
Which is in five minutes, but this timer says it's an hour.
It's in an hour.
Let me check the other thing.
I'm not going to go to C-SPAN because they keep freaking DMCA-ing everything.
It said 9 Eastern.
Okay, that's weird.
Because I could have swore they said it was 8.
That's okay.
That means I'm an hour early.
That's how you get me to be an hour early.
They lie about the start time.
Didn't it say 8?
That's okay.
So we'll have an hour.
Debate's coming up.
And I want to give my take.
I guess I'll establish where I'm coming from with this debate, which is an hour away.
We'll look at Polly Market.
There's a lot of betting going on about what will be said tonight by either candidate.
People are placing their bets on what the people are going to say.
So we'll see.
But first, I want to talk a little bit about this debate.
It's obviously a momentous occasion.
Technically, the second presidential debate, the first one back in June, the Trump and Biden debate effectively ended the Biden campaign.
Biden didn't withdraw from the race until about three weeks later, almost a full month after the fact.
But we all know that technically the first presidential debate back in June Was curtains.
That was it for Joe Biden because he did so poorly.
But that was obviously unique to his condition.
Rapidly deteriorating mental condition.
I don't think the same thing will happen with Kamala or Trump.
But this is going to be a big night for Kamala.
Because it's going to be a contrast with Biden.
As we know, Joe Biden, it looked like he was almost certainly headed to a defeat before dropping out.
It seemed like even if he did drop out, the Democrats didn't stand a chance.
What has taken place since late July is a massive consolidation around Kamala in the Democratic Party.
And it actually took me by surprise.
I was less surprised than most, but I was a little bit surprised there was no contest.
It was not contentious.
There was not any, at least publicly, squabbling about who would be the nominee.
Because initially there were a lot of questions about who would take Joe Biden's place and if it was even possible and what that would look like.
And there were questions about the money and the ballot access and the legality.
And so although it was clear from the first debate that Joe Biden could not and probably would not be the candidate, it seemed like there was literally no other option.
Another option wasn't even possible.
But he mysteriously withdrew by signing a letter and then did a televised address a few days later.
The Democratic Party, within days, I would say within 72 hours, There was a consensus.
They consolidated around Kamala.
Joe Biden gave the endorsement.
All of the other would-be nominees, would-be contenders bowed out and endorsed Kamala.
It was really only the Obamas that were the holdouts.
The Obamas, Pelosi.
And they said that was out of respect for Biden.
Who knows if that's true, but that's what they said.
And so realistically, within 72 hours, they whipped everybody into shape.
They were all behind Kamala.
And what followed was virtually a month of total media domination.
And whereas Trump was at 75% in the odds, He was running away with it in the national and swing state polling.
What followed at the end of July and throughout the month of August is that Kamala completely flipped all of it.
She took the lead in the national and swing state polls.
She became the odds-on favorite in the betting markets.
There was so much media attention about her selection, and then the selection of the vice president, and then the convention.
And it looked like the Trump campaign was in serious trouble.
It appeared, I would say, by mid-August, just about a month after Biden withdrew, two months after the first debate, that it was her race to lose.
And all of the cope and rationalization about a honeymoon phase or about built-in advantages Seemed not to explain Kamala's meteoric rise.
But then the race flipped again.
And in just the past two weeks, it seems that Donald Trump has regained the initiative.
I don't know how, because I haven't seen anything change materially.
But he has undoubtedly regained the initiative, regained the momentum.
Trump has staged a massive comeback in the past three weeks.
And once again, the betting odds have flipped.
The polling has not quite flipped.
If you look at the average for national polling, Kamala still has the lead.
And if you look at the swing state polling, it's a dead heat.
So states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin are a tie.
Georgia, Arizona, more favorable for Trump, but still a tie.
And so it looks like the race is literally a dead heat in just about every swing state.
Some favor Trump, some favor Kamala.
It looks like Arizona and Georgia Are probably going to Trump, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
Probably going to Kamala.
And Pennsylvania is right in the middle.
It could be the deciding election if that's how it breaks down and that's what the polling says is Trump and the betting markets too.
Trump is favored to win Arizona and Georgia, North Carolina and Nevada.
Kamala favored to win Michigan and Wisconsin.
Neither of them, with that map, have 270.
It all comes down to Pennsylvania.
That's according to the polling.
But of course, it's well within the margin of error, and it could swing either way in all of the states.
It could swing either way in any of those seven states.
Realistically, six.
I'd say Trump gets North Carolina regardless.
But Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, although they favor Trump, could go either way.
Michigan and Wisconsin favor Kamala.
Could go either way.
Pennsylvania is a dead heat in the polling as well.
So this is the state of the race, and there'll probably be, I would say, 20 to 30 million people watching.
I know that's a huge... Well, I think it could be 20 or 30 million, but I think realistically we're looking at maybe 25 million live viewers tonight.
It's going to be a massive, massive Platform for both of them.
And this is where Kamala maybe gets to make her introduction.
At the conventions, it was roughly tied.
Trump's speech at the final night of his convention in July got roughly 27 million viewers.
Kamala's speech on the final night of her convention last month got about 28 million viewers.
So roughly tied in convention viewership on average and on the final night during the speeches from the candidates.
So they both had okay conventions.
I think neither of the conventions really did anything for either of them.
If anything, the Democratic convention, all it did was demonstrate unity and strength in this very unusual cycle for the Democrats.
You have to say that much.
I think they played the greatest hits.
They talked about abortion.
They talked about Trump's criminality and personality.
But what it really did for the Democrats in this very unusual cycle where their incumbent nominee withdrew and they did not actually hold the primary contest, instead having to nominate The vice president.
It's very strange.
It did demonstrate some solidarity.
So, you know, I suppose that's a benefit for them.
But going into this debate, it's going to be a big night.
The first clash between the candidates.
And the thing is, we don't even know if we're going to get a second or a third debate.
Typically, you get four debates.
You get three general election presidential debates, and you get a vice presidential debate.
And Trump has already debated Biden once.
There's been a lot of back and forth between the two campaigns about this debate, which network would host it and what the rules would be and the date.
Trump initially said that he would not commit to the previously agreed upon date and host, which is ABC Tonight on September the 10th.
And after a strange one-sided negotiation, Trump finally came around and said that he would do this debate.
There was some discussion about the rules and whether microphones would be muted and about podiums, lifts, notes, things like that, but they ironed all of that out.
They are going to do it tonight, obviously.
Trump said at one point he was trying to get Kamala to do a Fox News debate on the 3rd.
That did not materialize.
He did a town hall instead.
And he suggested a third, or however you want to count it, a second presidential debate later this month.
I believe that's on the 26th, but the Kamala campaign has not agreed to that.
Vance and Walls have agreed to a vice presidential debate.
We are going to get that.
But this may be the one and only Trump and Kamala debate.
Worth remembering that in 2020, there were only two presidential debates.
They could not agree to a second one.
That was during COVID.
They couldn't agree to rules.
It was supposed to be remote, so they didn't do it.
So they did two.
And so this technically is the second one.
I don't know if we'll get a second or a third, a second Kamala or a third debate overall.
It may be the only night.
And it's a big night.
And so to get into the debate itself, so that's sort of where we are in the race.
That's how I would characterize this.
It's been a long journey.
We could go over the whole thing.
But all of the movement in the race began when the primary ended on the Republican side, and when the debate happened between Trump and Biden.
Trump surged, and his apogee was the failed assassination attempt.
That was probably the climax, high-water mark, ultimate moment.
And then I think Trump lost all momentum, all initiative, the following day.
Or you could say two days later at the start of the convention.
I think they blundered the convention.
They lost the momentum.
And then when Biden withdrew from the race, we saw the ascendancy of Kamala.
So you could say that June and July was Trump's.
August was Kamala's.
July, late July, early August was Kamala's.
Now it's a dead heat.
And that's, by the way, for people that are very, very pro-Trump, I'm calling it as it is.
I'm not saying this as pro-Kamala.
I obviously have my criticisms of Trump.
I'm calling the race, objectively speaking, we're just talking about the horse race here.
Or what do they call that?
I guess it's called the horse race.
And now it has become a tie in just about every way.
But this is a story that the numbers are telling.
The numbers are telling a story of Trump in the lead, Kamala overtakes.
Now it seems that they are tied.
And so, well, let's talk about this.
So these are the rules.
Like I said, there was a lot of debate about the debate.
Who would host it, when it would happen, and even about the rules.
And so these are going to be the rules tonight.
90 minutes, two breaks, no opening statements, two-minute answers, two-minute rebuttals, one-minute follow-ups.
And Trump will give the final closing statement.
So that means Harris will probably speak first.
And I believe the microphones are muted.
So just like with the first debate, there are no interruptions.
They can't interrupt because the microphones will be muted.
So those are the rules.
The rules are kind of gay.
I don't really like the rules.
So we'll talk about the state of the debate tonight.
I want to get into kind of how I expect it to play out.
Here we go.
Here's some more rules.
Microphones muted during the other candidates' turn.
No audience, no interaction with staff during the breaks.
The rules are a little bit gay, in my opinion.
And the reason why I say that is because I feel like Trump's greatest moments was when he was interrupting in the GOP primary debate in 2016.
I feel like those were his best debates, when he would interrupt and there was a back and forth.
But that's where things are now, so.
And here's the other thing which is interesting.
The Harris campaign insisted that the microphones not be muted.
It was the Trump campaign that wanted the microphones to be muted.
And I think that reflects the strategy.
So to get into the dynamics of the debate, let's talk about the first presidential debate back in June.
If you compare the first presidential debate between Trump and Biden this year with the first presidential debate between Trump and Biden in 2020, the difference is striking.
And if you were there in 2020, you know what I'm talking about.
That was maybe the most aggressive That I have ever seen the president in a primary or general election debate, maybe in any kind of exchange.
It was extremely hostile, extremely aggressive.
Trump was very overbearing to the point where it turned a lot of people off.
At least that was the consensus.
They said that Trump was all over Biden and they said it was too much.
This year, it's striking Trump did not interrupt And I would say he wasn't even a little bit aggressive at all.
Biden had a horrible performance back in June, and Trump notably did not capitalize on it.
Did not make any remarks, wasn't funny about it, wasn't personal, not a lot of insults.
This performance that Trump gave back in June, I would say was extremely muted.
Muted, subdued, laid back.
And I think this is indicative of a strategy.
I think this has been the strategy implemented by the senior campaign leadership, Jason Miller, Chris LaCivita, Susie Wiles.
They want a more laid-back Trump.
They want a more low-key, calm Trump.
They think that is Going to appeal more maybe to women, female voters.
It might appeal more to moderates.
But it is clearly a strategy.
And it has been consistent.
At the first debate, Trump was very subdued.
He only made one remark, and it was not even really a remark about Biden's senility.
They asked Trump what he said.
Trump said, oh, I don't know what he actually said.
And everyone got a big kick out of that, but that was mild.
That was light work from Trump.
That was nothing.
In 2016, he was talking about how big his penis was.
In 2016, he said, they said my hands are small and something else might be small.
There's no problem there.
He said Bush did 9-11.
And in this debate, the most he said was, oh, I don't know what he said, actually.
He doesn't know what he said either.
Everyone got a big kick out of it, but that was it.
It was mild.
It was light work.
And then, a month later during the convention, remember, the campaign leadership said that the message of the Republican convention would be unity.
They said they're not going to lean in.
They're not going to divide the country.
They said they're pushing unity and they're going to bring the country together.
They're going to use the opportunity to unite everybody.
And Trump said during his convention speech, he said, I'm not going to say my opponent's name.
He said, I'm going to say it just this once, but that's it.
And they insisted there would be no personal attacks.
They weren't going in on Biden.
They weren't going in.
With ad hominem insult personal attacks on the opponent.
And so that shows there's clearly a strategy.
There's an underlying consistent strategy.
And you can see it.
There was a tone shift sometime around May or June, where they said, we're going to lay off.
We're going to be low key.
Because at CPAC, he said, I will be a retribution.
Immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country.
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Right?
nick fuentes
And then at the debate, he laid off.
And it worked in that debate because Biden was senile.
It worked because Biden was failing.
So in that debate, you know, it actually made sense because they gave Biden just enough rope to hang himself.
They let him talk.
They let him fail.
And you could say that Trump didn't even win that debate so much as Biden lost it.
I don't think Trump and go and think back other than what I just said, and maybe the golf back and forth. There were no memorable moments from that
first debate. There was no grand slam by Trump. There wasn't even a home run. I don't even think
there was an on base.
There were two funny moments. They went back and forth about their golf swing.
Trump had that funny quip about Biden mumbling. But that was it.
Other than that, and I think those are those are footnotes.
That's pretty forgettable.
There was no home run by Trump.
I don't think he really did anything for himself other than he let Biden fail, and so it worked out.
I think intentional or not, it worked and it was appropriate for that setting, but it is part of a consistent and coordinated strategy.
They are trying to present a harmless.
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Trump.
nick fuentes
They're trying to present a mild, low-key Trump who is not radical, right down the middle, like he said, common sense.
And you can be the judge whether you think that's a good approach or not.
But a tone shift occurred in the spring, and that affected the debate performance and that affected the convention.
Now let's talk about the debate tonight.
I don't think that will serve him well tonight.
So establishing all of this, Trump's typical instincts in 16, in 2020, and I would say even during this primary, even during this Republican primary for the 2024 cycle, Trump's instinct is to be aggressive.
His instinct is to be overbearing, over the top, personal attacks, throw everything in the kitchen sink.
A tone shift occurred, and now they're going laid back.
That is probably going to be the approach tonight.
I'm sure that just like they advised him in the first debate and just like they've advised him at the convention and even at the rallies when Trump Trump polls the audience at the rally and says, should I do personal attacks?
They attack me.
I should be able to attack them.
My campaign doesn't want me to.
I'm sure this time, just like last time, he will defer to the campaign And he will not attack her personally.
I'm sure he will be laid back.
I don't think that will work for him.
And I'm gonna tell you why.
I think that Trump, when you look at the performance with Biden, in addition to being low key, he does not prepare.
In addition to being laid back, what we have seen over the last four years is that Trump is not as sharp.
And you know what?
Look, he's an older guy now.
He's been through a lot.
He's tired.
It's okay.
It makes sense.
But he's not as sharp as he used to be.
He's not as high energy as he used to be.
And just like always, he still doesn't prepare.
He used to be able to get away with it.
Because in 2016, he was very sharp, and he was quick.
And he had a good instinct.
And his advisors let him be himself.
But he's getting a little older, and he's getting a little slower, and he's getting a little quieter.
And he's not as fast as he used to be.
But just like before, he still does not like to prepare.
And as a result, it's getting sloppy.
He does not do a lot of opposition media for four years.
He rarely does interviews or press with hostile journalists.
Almost all his interviews are fawning supporters.
Twitch live streamers, YouTubers.
People like Lex Fridman, Fox News, rarely, other than the National Association for Black Journalists and maybe one or two other notable exceptions, he rarely does hostile interviews anymore.
What's more, he rarely stays on script anymore.
His RNC speech, the speech he gave at the convention, was sloppy.
He went off the teleprompter and it was a disaster.
He's been rambling.
And he's getting defensive about it, but it's true.
He's rambling.
He's meandering.
He's talking about Hannibal Lecter all the time.
He gets really defensive about them calling him weird.
It hasn't been 100% on the ball, let's be honest.
And you could go back to 2016.
And you'll know what I'm talking about.
If you watch his interviews in 2016, hostile, not hostile, he was sharp as a tack, he was quick, he was loud, he was forceful.
Something has been lost along the way, and I don't fault him for that.
Time comes for us all.
He's 10 years older now.
He's an 80-year-old man.
He's been through a lot.
It happens to everybody.
And the presidency ages you.
I can't imagine how much it ages you when you're literally getting shot at and sabotaged, but it is what it is.
And he's out of form.
He's like Batman in Dark Knight Rises.
I believe he is dangerously out of form and vulnerable.
And he still, don't get me wrong, he still got a little fire in his belly, obviously, when he got up and raised his fist.
He still got fire in his belly at the National Association for Black Journalists.
It wasn't a disaster.
He was able to hold his own.
But he's a little bit out of form.
He's sloppy.
And I'll say this.
That first debate with Biden, if Biden wasn't dying on the stage, it would have been a tie.
Go back and watch when Biden called him out for the suckers and losers comment.
Trump was on the back foot and defensive.
I don't think that was a particularly effective rebuttal, nor was it a pivot.
And I think that pound for pound, it was objectively isolating his performance.
It was not exceptional.
Forget Biden for a second.
Let's isolate Trump's performance.
It wasn't very good.
The convention speech was not very good.
These rallies are low energy.
And he's trying to keep the energy up.
He's trying, you know, the RFK thing was exciting.
I thought that was well done.
And I think he knows he's got a problem there and he's making an effort.
But he's been struggling a little bit.
And so I think that in this debate tonight, What is going to be make or break for him is if he prepared.
Because if he goes into this without preparation, like I think he will, like he did in the first debate, like he did at the RNC, I think he is going to get shlonged.
I think he is going to be woefully unable to counter what Kamala has to say.
And I hope that's not the case.
I hope he prepared.
But if you watched the first debate, it was unrehearsed.
It was all over the place.
It was rambling.
I'm sure he told his people, I got this, I got this.
He didn't have it.
He's lucky that Biden didn't show up that night, because Biden was somewhat competent at the State of the Union, and Biden was somewhat competent at the DNC.
I mean, he was competent enough, it was passable.
For some reason, maybe it's a conspiracy, he really didn't show up at that debate, and Trump got lucky.
Because if Biden showed up, he'd still be in the race.
He'd still be running.
And it'd be a different story.
And that's just the truth.
For whatever reason, the drugs didn't kick in.
Maybe they gave him a placebo.
Who knows?
Biden did not show up.
And it's not because he can't.
I mean, he's still able to muddle through.
He did okay at the DNC, did a lot better than he did at the debate.
But Biden didn't show up, and that helped Trump.
And Trump was able to skirt by.
All the attention was on Biden.
But if Trump does what he did in June tonight, Kamala's not dead.
She's not senile.
She might be drunk.
She might be crazy.
But she's gonna show up.
And she's gonna show up prepared.
And she's a good actor.
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Actress.
nick fuentes
You may not believe it, but you know who believes it?
Women.
Women believe it.
And you don't believe me?
Take a look.
The gender gap is widening.
Males preferring Trump, females preferring Kamala.
Black female voter registration is up 175%.
Women across the board, it's up 100%.
I know guys like you and I, we look at, for all the guys watching this, we look at Kamala and say she's a Looney Tunes retard.
A lot of shit libs and women buy it.
Take a look at the coconut thing.
They eat that up and they're hungry for it.
She's this campy girl boss, she's gonna give them exactly what they want.
So Kamala is going to show up tonight and she's going to be Kamala and she's hungry and she wants it.
She would kill to be president and she's going to act like it tonight.
She's going to be prepared.
She's going to be rehearsed.
She's going to hit the greatest hits and her audience is going to love it.
Now the question is, is Trump going to show up prepared?
Because here's what's going to happen.
Abortion is going to come up.
It just simply will.
Abortion will come up, and Kamala is gonna fight to make it as much about abortion and IVF as possible.
And you know what?
Whatever you feel about abortion, and whatever you feel about Trump, it's a thorny issue.
Politically speaking.
Morally speaking, it's very cut and dry.
Morally speaking, abortion is obviously immoral.
But politically, it is very thorny.
Because most women want a right to an abortion.
Even if they're pro-life.
Even if they're conservative.
Even if they're in a red state.
I mean, you can't win an abortion referendum in a state like Oklahoma.
And that's because of women.
That's because women are turning out and they're voting for it.
So it has become, ever since June 2022, a very thorny issue.
And it is clear, based on Trump's flip-flop last week on the Florida referendum, on the amendment in their state constitution, it is clear by what Vance said on the Sunday shows a couple weeks ago, they still have not engineered a good answer.
Vance was asked on one of the Sunday shows, what if a federal abortion ban comes across your desk?
Will Trump veto it?
And Vance said, yes, he'll veto it.
Not good.
That was not a good answer.
Did they anticipate that?
If they didn't, they should have.
And if they anticipated it, did they not rehearse an answer?
If they didn't, they should have.
But that shows they're not preparing.
That shows they're still not media trained.
It's a thorny issue.
You can't skate by on this one.
You can't wing it on this one because you need just the right touch to not alienate the pro-lifers, which Trump has done.
He's losing support with Catholics over this.
He's losing support with evangelicals.
They might not turn out to vote.
It's a real concern.
At the same time, if he doesn't appease the left a little bit, he's going to activate women, and all these women voters are going to turn out, and it's going to be a problem for him.
So it's a very tricky thing.
You need the right touch, you need to think about it in advance, and you need to choose your words carefully and say them exactly.
And if Trump isn't preparing, he won't do that.
And if he doesn't do that, he's gonna step in shit.
And who knows if it, but he could really get caught on that.
I don't know.
You know, he might be able to skate by.
He's pretty smart.
He might be able to skate by, but that is a real vulnerability.
And that's what I'm worried about because the Democrats, they want this race to be about abortion.
They can't run on Biden's record.
They can't run on the economy.
They can't run on Kamala's record.
She's the vice president now and everything sucks.
They can't run on foreign policy.
I mean, they have nothing to run on.
So what they're doing is they're making it all about abortion.
That's what their convention was about.
And they're baiting Trump and Vance into this trap.
And now everyone's talking about IVF and abortion bans.
And this is playing right into the Democrats hands.
And if they're not careful, Trump is going to be really vulnerable because you know, I mean, take a look at team Kamala.
Take a look at team Harris tonight.
They are going over and over again and again, the script on abortion.
It's going to be a sob story.
It's going to be about You know, but I talked to the women like so-and-so in something Ohio, in Ohio.
I talked to so-and-so in Ohio who, you know, her life was at risk because of a pregnancy, but the doctor said they couldn't perform it because the radicals on the court overturned Roe.
It's going to be something like that.
And there's going to be a temptation by Trump to say something to outflank Kamala, and it's going to alienate the base.
And it might be rough.
It's a big vulnerability, and I know they're not preparing for it.
I hope that they are.
They're probably, on Team Trump, preparing to blast Kamala for her record.
They're preparing to blast her on inflation, grocery prices, gas prices.
But you know what?
That doesn't work.
We'll see what happens tonight.
Maybe he'll find a way to make it hurt.
And you know what?
The moderators the last time were decent.
I thought CNN the last time, I never thought I'd say it, they did a great job in June.
Maybe they'll be fair, but ABC's pretty biased.
If the moderators are fair, maybe they'll be able to make it stick on Kamala.
But I'm reminded of the 2012 debate with Obama and Romney.
The Obama-Romney debate in 2012, it's exactly like this, in the sense that you have an incumbent, the economy sucks, we're basically in a recession, just like we were then.
In 2012, we were still in a recession.
All the numbers were bad.
Obama was the incumbent, and Romney really had him, because Romney's, what is he, private equity?
You know, he's a businessman, and he's the opposition, he's Republican, whatever.
But it wasn't enough.
Because as always, you know what the Democrats do?
They lie.
You talk about inflation, and they go, uh, yeah, well, technically that number's not right, and blah blah blah.
They talk about eating the rich, they talk about the rich paying their fair share, they talk about the middle class, And look at what Kamala's doing.
She's shamelessly ripping all the Trump policies.
Trump said, I'm going to cut the tax on tips.
Kamala said, I'm going to cut the tax on tips.
Trump said, I'm going to cut the corporate tax rate.
Well, I mean, Kamala said she's going to raise taxes, but not as much as Biden.
She's going to raise it to 33% on capital gains, and she's going to raise taxes, what is it, 25% on unrealized capital gains for people of $100 million or more, and all this kind of stuff.
But she is ripping a lot of the policies.
She's going to talk about price gouging.
She's going to talk about the Paul Ryan tax cut and how it's for corporations and for the rich, your rich friends, blah, blah.
That's always a playbook.
And, uh, people are gonna eat that up.
It's not gonna get anybody jazzed up.
Everybody that cares about the economy is already voting for Trump.
Newsflash.
Everyone that gives a shit about the economy, already voting for Trump.
Just like they were already voting for Romney.
And Kamala's excuses on the economy are going to work for her target demographic.
So I don't think there's going to be a grand slam in there.
Now, if Trump were smart, he would force the contradiction on Gaza.
That would be the opportunity.
The vulnerability is abortion.
That's the big vulnerability.
Personal attacks.
He just has to find a way to disarm and defuse those.
I don't think that... What he's going to go on is record.
He's going to hit her on her record.
He's going to hit her on taxes.
He's going to hit her on inflation.
And it's fine.
But I don't think it's going to be a home run.
The real opportunity, the one that I know he won't take, is on Gaza.
Because that is where you can really exploit the cleavage in the Democratic Party.
Between the radicals, the Muslims who are in Michigan, the progressives, the far left, and the establishment and the Jewish money and Wall Street and Silicon Valley who she's been trying to court.
That would be the smart thing.
For obvious reasons, he can't really do that.
Because he's a Zionist.
He's more of a Zionist than she is.
And he's more indebted to the Israel lobby than she is.
But if he were smart, that would be the real opportunity.
And I don't say that just because I'm a critic of the Jewish lobby and all of that.
But I say that because that is Just beneath the surface, what is driving the news?
That is what is driving Silicon Valley into Trump's arms.
That's what's driving a lot of the Jewish money behind Trump.
That is what is driving, I think, a lot of Republicans like Nikki Haley and Fox to support New York Post to support Trump.
That's what's driving the news, and so I think that would be the opportunity.
So that's how I think it's going to play out.
Say what you want about Kamala.
She's gonna come with a script.
She's gonna have a script.
She's gonna have her talking points.
She's prepared.
She's rehearsed.
She doesn't have a job.
She's the vice president.
Who even knows who's running the country?
It's not him.
It's not her.
So you know that ever since, probably for years, she's been preparing for this, and she did a pretty good job against Mike Pence four years ago.
So she's going to bring it.
She's not going to be like Joe Biden.
She's going to be campy.
She's going to be serving stuff.
The fags and the women and the blacks are going to eat it up.
And we need Trump to show up and be Trump.
But I don't think he's going to.
I think he's going in half cocked.
Half-baked.
I think he's going to go in muted.
He's going to go in running this playbook about no personal attacks and focus on the record and keep it straight down the middle and this and that.
It's not what comes naturally to him.
I think he's going to be inadequately prepared.
And I think he has this tendency now to ramble and I think that is going to hurt his efficacy.
So I think, you know, the odds don't favor him tonight.
But we'll see.
I may be surprised.
And we'll obviously be doing a live commentary.
So we're going to see in just 20, the debate is just 27 minutes away.
So if you're just joining us, I love doing that.
If you're just joining us, the second presidential debate is 27 minutes away.
We're doing a little pregame analysis.
We have covered the state of the race.
Predicting some of the dynamics of the debate, giving a little prediction.
We took a poll at the beginning of the stream.
It looked about even.
Let's take another quick poll based on everything you're hearing, and now we have about 6,000 new live viewers in here.
What do you guys think?
Press 1 in the chat if you think Trump will win the debate tonight.
Press 2 if you think Kamala will win the debate.
And we'll take another quick poll.
At the beginning of the hour, it was very split.
It was about 50-50, but after hearing this with some new people in here, what do you think?
I'm seeing a lot of twos.
A lot of people agree with me.
me. A lot of twos now. Some ones, I would say it's about 60-30.
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So, thank you.
nick fuentes
So, here's the thing.
You never underestimate Trump.
Because Trump, he has a unique ability.
It's like a video game.
And he has a unique ability.
He reached level 100 and he unlocked his legendary ability.
And his legendary ability is this wild card.
He's got this unbelievable instinct.
That's what made him president.
And if you look at the stuff in 2016, he was sharp.
They called him Teflon.
They called him Teflon Don because nothing could stick.
Nothing could penetrate.
Nothing could.
They call them can't stump the Trump.
They said there are no breaks on the Trump train.
It's always going.
And that's because somehow, no matter what, any situation he got into, he was able to get out of unscathed.
It almost got to a point where people believed in magic.
They called it meme magic.
They said that Kek, the chaos god, was being channeled.
And they said it's a supernatural ability.
They said that, and I don't know, this is a little nugget for you guys who are new.
This is a nugget for some of you new Groypers.
It was not unfounded that Trump was magic in 2016.
I know that sounds crazy.
I know liberals might listen to this and say, oh brother, these people are insane.
Let me tell you something that I think will kind of blow you away.
And this is going to be, uh, I'm dating myself a little bit here.
It's kind of unk status.
But back in 2016, during the election, everybody was on 4chan.
Everybody was on the politically incorrect board on 4chan called Poll, right?
Everybody was on Poll.
And Poll, if you don't know, is an anonymous messaging board.
It's like a forum.
And people post anonymously.
Every time somebody posts on Poll, it assigns a random number.
It's RNG.
It's a random number generated.
Technically, it's the order of the posts.
But since there are so many posts, it's random.
It's not like, you know, so you post it, and it's the 132nd message, and then you post again, it's the 250th message.
There's so many messages, it's like rolling the dice.
It's like an RNG.
Well, in 2016, somebody posted, Trump will win.
And it used to be considered that if the last two digits of this very long number string, this RNG, were the same.
They would call that dupes, duplicates.
And they would say digits confirm. If you posted something and the last two numbers,
which are random, of your message were the same, were duplicate or triplicate, if it was three,
they would say it's confirmed. It's going to happen. By meme magic, because you got
the same number, whatever was posted in the message, the content of the message must be true.
Well, somebody posted in 2016, long before the election, they said, Trump will win.
And that was the 7,777,777th message that was ever posted on poll.
It was seven-sevenths.
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What?
nick fuentes
And that's all it said.
It said Trump will win.
Nothing else.
Trump will win.
And it was the 7,777,777th post on poll.
Seven sevens.
God's perfect number.
God's complete number.
Seven sevens.
7777 post on poll 7 sevens God's perfect number God's complete number seven
sevens and it said Trump will win and you know you could say that's like a
coincidence you know maybe it was But it was pretty, it was pretty crazy.
And so anyway, so back in 2016, everybody said it's this guy has some supernatural ability.
And I, on some level still do believe that like Trump is still able to pull things out, even like the assassination attempt, turning his head.
And getting grazed by... He bled, so he got hit.
It's weird that there's no scar, but whatever.
He got grazed by a bullet, literally because he turned his head like this.
It was an inch away from blowing up his fucking head on TV.
Sorry for the language, but what happened?
Showing a chart with illegal immigration, and then he gets up with the fist out.
Wait, wait!
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Fight!
nick fuentes
So don't get me wrong.
I think Trump has gotten very sloppy.
He's gotten very old.
He's slowing down.
I think his advisors are steering him into the rocks, maybe intentionally, maybe unintentionally, and he's complicit in it.
So, there's a lot of dysfunction.
There always has been.
There has always been dysfunction, disorganization.
There's been a lot of bullshit surrounding Trump from the very beginning.
But somehow, he's always pulled it out.
At the critical moment, always.
Always.
From the first debate, when he got up there and said, only Rosie O'Donnell.
All the way to the Billy Bush tape when he said, you'd be in jail.
And that was the night he won the debate.
People don't think of it that way, but that's what happened.
Because they were going to throw him off the ticket.
Paul Ryan made the call to the whole conference.
They said, don't support him, support down ballot.
Mike Pence was missing in action.
It came down to that second debate.
And when he said that, it was fucking over.
He said, because you'd be in jail and it was over.
And that's just what he does.
He gets lucky.
He says something.
It's an instinct.
Now, it didn't happen in 2020.
Obviously.
And I think the problems have gotten a lot worse.
I'm not trying to sell people on copium, but he does have this wild card ability.
Like I said, this is like his legendary perk.
He's a level 100 mage.
He's a level 100 paladin.
And his legendary perk is wild card.
When his HP gets below 10 points, he has a 50% chance of getting a critical hit.
This is what we're dealing with.
So, um, That being said, there's still two months before the election, so maybe it's not- maybe he hasn't hit the cooldown timer yet.
The cooldown timer hasn't run out yet.
You know?
He hasn't recharged that ability yet.
When it gets to November, when it's like two seconds before the election, then it'll activate, right?
But, um, so we'll see.
I think he's going to lose the debate tonight.
I think it's going to be rough.
This is an unknown quantity for him.
He's never debated her.
He debated Hillary Clinton, but she was a little different.
He debated Biden.
I don't even think he did well there.
I think he did poorly in 2020.
I think he did poorly in June.
I think he got lucky that Biden sucked.
Maybe he got unlucky, depending on how you look at it.
But I think he did poorly at the debate.
I think he did poorly at the convention.
I think his campaign is being run very poorly.
I think he is sloppy, rambling, unprepared.
But you can never totally count him out because he has this instinct which, you know, when he listens to his gut, he's very powerful.
When he's listening to his advisors, when he's doing what he thinks he's supposed to, no magic.
And he always has, somehow, this ability to pull it out.
It is almost magical.
And you can never fully discount it.
If you don't believe me, look at him now.
Look at him now.
Look at the New York Times-Siena poll yesterday.
He's leading nationally, according to the New York Times poll.
And this is after Jay Sixth.
Four indictments.
Assassination attempt.
This crazy rape civil suit.
After everything.
Refusing to concede.
The meltdowns.
Some would say it was his race to lose.
I mean, there's no guarantee he was ever going to be the nominee after everything that happened.
Because he is immortal.
unidentified
So...
nick fuentes
You can never count him out.
So I would say that I'm going to hedge a little bit and I'm going to say I think it's not going to go well, but I'm going to hedge and say there's always the chance that he could really pull it out and surprise.
So I wouldn't be totally shocked if that happened, but I think it's not likely.
That's my—so I'm going to give it—I'm going to say Kamala has like a 70% chance of winning the debate.
But I want to talk a little bit about some of the betting market stuff.
We'll go on Twitter.
The debate is 15 minutes away.
Those are my predictions.
I'm locking it in.
I'm going to say Kamala's got a 70% chance of winning.
I think Trump has—Kamala's 70-80.
I would say Trump is 30-20 chance of winning.
And we're going to take a look at Polly Market because this is interesting.
Polly Market is probably by volume the biggest online betting exchange about the election.
I believe that's the case.
I'm not 100% sure on that.
But Polly Market is owned by Peter Thiel.
I believe they don't let you trade in the United States.
You're only allowed to trade outside the United States.
Take that with a grain of salt.
And their odds differ from predicted and from other betting markets.
It's a little strange.
But this is what the betting markets say about the debate tonight.
What will Kamala say?
89% say abortion.
57% say convicted felon.
abortion. 57% say convicted felon. 82% I should probably, is there any way I can rank it by
chance? Project 2025, 82%.
Inflation, 89%.
Democracy, of course, 81%.
Not going back.
Ceasefire.
McDonald's.
11% chance you'll say Bitcoin.
Weird.
That's what she's favored to say.
A $2.2 million bet.
Or I suppose that's volume.
And then on Trump, 84% say abortion.
Or rather, it's an 84% chance.
84% say that he will say abortion.
See, so, there is agreement.
unidentified
89%, 84%.
nick fuentes
It's like I said, that abortion is gonna be a big part of the debate, and I think he's vulnerable because he's not prepared.
That's something that they've struggled with.
They have not come up with an answer on it.
Not a good one.
As evidenced by what he said, Voting on the Florida referendum, they still haven't locked in an answer, and they need to.
So I hope they've done that.
If they don't, it's gonna hurt them.
Mark my words.
If they have not improved, if they haven't written and rehearsed a response on abortion, and if they haven't gamed it out, if they haven't done leveling, and said, you know, if she says this, I say this, and then she'll say this, then I say this, if they haven't done that, He's going to struggle, and it's going to hurt him.
And it's going to be difficult to win on that one, because you really got to thread the needle to not piss off the Christians, but also not activate the screeching harpies on the left.
So, everyone agrees.
The moderators are going to come after him on that.
Kamala's going to come after him on that.
If he doesn't have something convincing, it's going to be ugly.
He's going to say, border czar.
He'll hit her on the border.
Border over 15 times.
I don't think he'll say it 15 times.
China, three plus times.
So there's a little Israel, 91%.
There you go.
A little bit more uncertainty about what Trump will say.
Everybody seems to be confident that Kamala is going to say abortion.
Project 2025, inflation, democracy.
There seems to be a bit more uncertainty about what Trump will say.
I suppose he's a wild card.
They're betting on whether he'll say Haitian.
Haitian, Springfield.
I don't think he'll talk about that.
unidentified
Cat.
nick fuentes
I don't think he's going to talk about that.
I think that's unlikely.
Marxist.
I think that'll go out there.
I don't think he'll say MAGA three times.
He might say it once or twice.
A lot of money to be made on some of this, I think, right?
But... So that's what the betting markets say.
It's sort of interesting.
So they predict that abortion, border, inflation, and Israel will be the big issues.
We'll see what the focus is tonight.
What the topics will be.
But that is where we stand right now.
We'll take a look on Twitter.
We'll see what some of the chatter is.
Let's see.
Debate 2024.
Hey, that's me!
Laser eyes.
Trump should walk out holding a cat.
unidentified
And then, that would be hilarious.
And then, and then what if he like, what if he would like.
Yeah, that'd be hilarious.
nick fuentes
For the cat, cat memes.
We're doing cat memes now.
Did he really post this?
unidentified
That's funny.
nick fuentes
That's kind of funny.
It's really stupid.
Like the AI cat thing is really dumb.
Like making cat memes is stupid.
It's like insufferable boomer cringe, but it is kind of funny that he posted it.
It's kind of funny.
Look, I'm not a Trump hater.
I'm really not.
I don't hate Trump.
I love Trump.
I am a big critic because I want him to succeed.
I want him to thrive.
I want him to win.
But I also want him to be the champion of America first.
So everybody's pigeonholed me.
They say, you're a Trump hater.
You're for Kamala.
I do not want Kamala to win.
I do not like her.
And I don't hate Trump.
I love Trump.
But I think he's making some serious tactical and ideological errors.
And I, you know, my critique is purely pragmatic.
If I thought he could really pull it out, I would probably not be vocal about it.
But I'm deeply concerned.
All right, well, all this stuff sucks.
Someone says the Tates are watching?
Tate is calling?
Someone says?
Is he for real?
What's he calling me on?
unidentified
I'm not getting a message.
nick fuentes
I don't know if people are trolling me.
People are saying the Tates are calling!
Tate wants to talk.
unidentified
Now, we're not calling me.
nick fuentes
I have their number.
unidentified
So.
I don't know if you guys are trolling me.
nick fuentes
But I'll call him later.
The debate's about to start in eight minutes.
Call Leafy.
Call Leafy.
I'll call Tate.
The debate's in eight minutes.
I'll call him after the debate if that's real.
But I think you're trolling me.
Call this.
Call Joe Rogan.
Let's see.
Let's see what NBC's saying.
We're getting into it.
Eight minutes away.
I guess they just went to a break.
Call Waheguru.
Call Duke Dennis.
Call Livvy Dunn.
Call Grimace Shake.
Call the Rizzler.
unidentified
That's cock.
nick fuentes
Call Turkish Kwandel Dingle.
unidentified
All right.
nick fuentes
Where's this debate?
Let's get ready.
What stream?
What's, what is the, uh, who's streaming the debate?
It's ABC, right?
Where do I go to watch it though?
Can I watch it on NBC?
Oh, here we go.
unidentified
Doy.
nick fuentes
Uh, derp?
All right, here we go!
Here we go!
Seven minutes away.
What are your guys' predictions?
What do you think?
Let's do it one more time.
We're five minutes away from the historic, legendary Trump versus Kamala Harris debate.
It is so exciting.
One for Trump, two for Harris.
Who's gonna win?
Who do you got?
unidentified
Go.
nick fuentes
One for Trump, two for Harris.
One for Trump, two for Harris.
Who's gonna win?
Call it now.
I'm saying it's 70-30 Harris.
And I wish Trump would... would schlong her.
I wish she would get schlonged, but I think he's gonna be unprepared.
Mostly ones!
Mostly ones now!
Well, it's about split, 50-50.
Roughly.
The chat's moving too fast.
unidentified
But it's a lot of ones.
nick fuentes
Man, I don't know.
It's a dead heat.
This is a very interesting cycle.
Why don't we do... We'll look at some of the polling real, real quick before we do it.
We'll look at the polling average.
Just to show you guys.
This is like a dead heat.
I mean straight up.
Hang on.
unidentified
out how do I get to it? Um, okay.
Thank you.
nick fuentes
So this is Trump.
unidentified
Where's the chart?
Bruh.
Bruh.
nick fuentes
Where's my chart, bro?
unidentified
Here we go.
nick fuentes
So it's like I said, this is the story of the election.
unidentified
Where's June?
nick fuentes
So this was the debate.
This was roughly the night of the debate.
This is when they decoupled.
Trump 46, Biden 45.
So Trump had about a .5 lead.
And then this is when they decouple.
They split after the debate.
It's catastrophic.
Trump's leading by four nationally.
It totally changes the race.
Biden drops out.
It takes about a week for the polling to catch up.
And then there's this inflection point here.
And that's when Harris starts to lead.
And like I said, this was the month of Harris.
They called it the honeymoon.
They said it was the coconut, the legend of the coconut.
But they split like this.
And then, like I said, in just the last week, you've seen Trump come back.
Trump has regained the momentum and he's come back in a big way.
So this debate could be determinative because in all the swing states, it's pretty close.
In Arizona, The average is, Trump is up one.
But it's a lot of tie.
In Nevada, Harris is up .6 in the average.
In Wisconsin, she's up one and a half.
But in some polls, Trump is up by one.
In Michigan, she's up by one.
In Pennsylvania, they're tied.
North Carolina, Trump's probably gonna win, but even still, the polling says he's up .1.
In Georgia, he's up .3.
So let me show you how that map works out.
We don't have a ton of time.
Five minutes away, but we're just going to take a look at the map and then we're going to switch over.
unidentified
Whoops.
nick fuentes
Just to show you how this is all going to shake out, what we're playing for.
It's a dead heat.
This debate, it could, you know, realistically, it's not going to be a crazy game changer, but it could be.
unidentified
Let me just do a blank map.
Let's just set it up like this.
Bye.
Like this.
Like this.
Whoops.
Like this, whoops.
nick fuentes
Okay.
So this is your map.
And in all of these swing states, it's a dead heat.
So it could go in.
It's tied nationally.
It's tied in all these states.
This is what it's going to come down to.
Trump could win.
Trump's likely to win North Carolina.
She's likely to win Michigan.
Trump's likely to win Arizona.
She's likely to win Wisconsin.
It's going to come down.
I think she's probably going to get Georgia.
Even if he wins Nevada, he doesn't win.
It comes down to Pennsylvania.
But really, it's those states.
It could be any one of them.
She could win Pennsylvania and he could win Michigan.
Or he could win Wisconsin.
But the must-wins are Georgia, Arizona, and then he's gotta get one from the Rust Belt.
It's anybody's game right now.
So with that, we're gonna move on.
We're gonna take a look at the debate.
We're tuning in live.
This is ABC.
We're going live to ABC.
unidentified
And here we go.
nick fuentes
We're in it!
We're a minute away!
unidentified
It looks like we're starting now.
Alright.
nick fuentes
Countdown a minute, twenty seconds.
jonathan karl
it down. All right. Countdown a minute, 20 seconds.
unidentified
Based.
We have never even met each other. And Harris said, if you got something to say, say it
to my face, the question tonight, does Donald Trump actually go there? He's questioned her
racial identity. He's questioned her intelligence as well?
Or does he stick the issues?
they're likely going to have in this race.
It will be interesting to see if Harris can make clear a stark choice before voters.
And where does she decide to land her punches?
She can punch hard.
kamala harris
Can she do that while rising above the needling coming her way?
unidentified
But first and foremost... This is the most important debate of all time.
kamala harris
We didn't back in 2016 when I did that debate.
unidentified
We'll stand by to see that tonight.
But the first time, side to side, together.
jonathan karl
Here we go.
have my doubts that we're gonna see that handshake but what you are gonna see is a
spirited debate and perhaps the most consequential general election debate we
have ever seen because almost certainly it's gonna be the last one. The most important debate of our lifetimes. So
with the stakes so high the presidential debate just moments away. Here we go and we're
nick fuentes
gonna experience it We're going to experience it together.
unidentified
Are you guys excited?
jonathan karl
This is going to be awesome.
This is going to be awesome.
happening right here, the debate now, just 10 seconds away.
nick fuentes
Are you guys excited?
jonathan karl
And we will be back with our post-game show as soon as it over.
nick fuentes
This is going to be awesome.
jonathan karl
We are going to toss it right now to David Muir.
nick fuentes
This is going to be awesome.
This is going to be epic.
unidentified
Tonight the high-stakes showdown here in Philadelphia between Vice President Kamala Harris and former
President Donald Trump.
Their first face-to-face meeting in this presidential election.
Their first face-to-face meeting ever.
A historic race for president upended just weeks ago.
President Biden withdrawing after his last debate.
Donald Trump now up against a new opponent.
The candidates, separated by the smallest of margins, essentially tied in the polls nationally and in the key battlegrounds, including right here in Pennsylvania, all still very much in play.
nick fuentes
Very exciting, guys.
Very exciting.
I just tweeted about it.
Very exciting stuff.
jonathan karl
This is an ABC News special.
streamlabs matthew tts
The most consequential moment of this campaign.
unidentified
The most important debate of all time.
donald j trump
I am rooting for Trump, by the way.
a great nation again.
streamlabs matthew tts
Face to face, historic.
nick fuentes
I am rooting for Trump, by the way.
streamlabs matthew tts
The ABC News presidential debate.
unidentified
Here now, David Muir and Lindsey Davis.
nick fuentes
But I think it's going to be rough.
unidentified
Good evening, I'm David Muir, and thank you for joining us for tonight's ABC News presidential debate.
We want to welcome viewers watching on ABC and around the world tonight.
Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump are just moments away from taking the stage in this unprecedented race for president.
And I'm Lindsay Davis.
Tonight's meeting could be the most consequential event of their campaigns, with Election Day now less than two months away.
For Vice President Kamala Harris, this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the race on July 21st.
Of course, that decision followed his debate against President Donald Trump in June.
Since then, this race has taken on an entirely new dynamic.
That brings us to the rules of tonight's debate.
90 minutes with two commercial breaks.
No topics or questions have been shared with the campaigns.
The candidates will have two minutes to answer questions.
And this is the clock.
nick fuentes
That's what they'll be seeing.
unidentified
Very exciting.
nick fuentes
No audience.
Kind of eerie.
unidentified
Liminal space.
of eerie.
...clarifications or responses.
Their microphones will only be turned on when it's their turn to speak.
No pre-written notes allowed.
There is no audience here tonight in this hall at the National Constitution Center.
nick fuentes
Liminal space.
unidentified
This is an intimate setting for two candidates who have never met.
President Trump won the coin toss.
He chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening.
Vice President Harris selected the podium to the right.
So let's now welcome the candidates to the stage.
Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump.
Here we go.
Kamala Harris.
kamala harris
Have a good debate.
donald j trump
Thank you.
unidentified
Welcome to you both.
It's wonderful to have you.
It's an honor to have you both here tonight.
Good evening.
We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate.
So let's get started.
I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country.
Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago?
When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?
kamala harris
So, I was raised as a middle class kid.
And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America.
I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people.
And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy.
Because here's the thing.
We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing, and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people.
We know that young families need support to raise their children, and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time, so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children.
My passion, one of them, is small businesses.
I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, but there was a woman who helped raise us.
We call her our second mother.
She was a small business owner.
I love our small businesses.
My plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to startup small businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy.
My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before.
Which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will result in $5 trillion to America's deficit.
My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax, which would be a 20% tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month.
Economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
donald j trump
President Trump, she's nervous. First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an incorrect statement. She knows that
We're doing tariffs on other countries. Other countries are going to finally after
75 years pay us back for all that we've done for the world and
The tariff will be substantial in some cases. I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China
In fact, they never took the tariff off because it was so much money
They can't it would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do
They're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places
They've left the tariffs on when I had it I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation
look, we've had a Terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a country buster.
It breaks up countries.
We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before.
Probably the worst in our nation's history.
We were at 21%, but that's being generous because many things are 50, 60, 70, and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago.
This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class.
On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from Prisons and jails from mental institutions and insane asylums, and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics and also unions.
Unions are going to be affected very soon.
And you see what's happening.
You see what's happening with towns throughout the United States.
You look at Springfield, Ohio.
You look at- Someone please, think of the black people.
They are taking over the towns.
They're taking over buildings.
They're going in violently.
These are the people that she and Biden let into our country, and they're destroying our country.
They're dangerous.
They're at the highest level of criminality, and we have to get them out.
We have to get them out fast.
I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country.
I'll do it again and even better.
unidentified
We are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate, but I would like to let Vice President Harris respond.
nick fuentes
They're both really giving an opening statement.
kamala harris
Well, I would love to.
Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us.
Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.
Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.
Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess.
nick fuentes
What about 9-11?
kamala harris
What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
But I'm going to tell you on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook.
A bunch of lies, grievances, and name-calling.
What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to get it.
I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have so much more in common than what separates us, and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans.
unidentified
President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
donald j trump
Number one, I have nothing to do, as you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have
nothing to do with Project 2025.
That's out there.
I haven't read it.
I don't want to read it.
Purposely, I'm not going to read it.
This was a group of people that got together.
They came up with some ideas, I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference.
I have nothing to do.
Everybody knows I'm an open book.
Everybody knows what I'm going to do.
Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before.
We had the greatest economy.
We got hit with a pandemic.
And the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people died.
Has there been anything like it?
We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic.
We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in.
Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
We made ventilators for the entire world.
We got gowns.
We got masks.
We did things that nobody thought possible.
See, this is sloppy.
for rebuilding the military, they give me credit for a lot of things, but not enough credit for
the great job we did with the pandemic. But the only jobs they got were bounce-back jobs. These
were jobs bounce-back, and it bounced back and it went to their benefit, but I was the one that
created them. They know it and so does everybody else. Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond.
kamala harris
So Donald Trump has no plan for you.
And when you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax breaks for the richest people.
I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America.
What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse, mine would strengthen the economy.
What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit.
16 Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession.
You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues.
And I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.
donald j trump
I went to the Wharton School of Finance and many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan.
It's a great plan.
It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth, our value as a country.
It's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our
country.
unidentified
What?
donald j trump
And just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan.
She copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences, like run spot run, four sentences
that are just, oh we'll try and lower taxes.
She doesn't have a plan.
Take a look at her plan.
She doesn't have a plan.
unidentified
Mr. President, I do want to drill down on something you've already said.
It's sloppy.
It's not prepared.
The Vice President brought up your tariffs.
You responded, and let's drill down on this, because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax.
Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here, on foreign imports across the board.
You recently said that you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to 20 percent on goods coming into this country.
As you know, many economists say that with tariffs at that level, costs are then passed on to the consumer.
Vice President Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication, arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year.
Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs?
donald j trump
They're not going to have higher prices.
What's going to happen, who's going to have higher prices, is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years.
I charge, I was the only president ever China was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries and you know if she doesn't like them they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs but those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their administration.
We are going to take in billions Billions of dollars.
Hundreds of billions of dollars.
I had no inflation.
Virtually no inflation.
They had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country because I've never seen a worse period of time.
People can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else.
The people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done.
They've destroyed the economy.
And all you have to do is look at a poll.
The polls say 80 and 85 and even 90 percent that the Trump economy was great, that their economy was terrible.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response.
And you heard what the president said there, because the Biden administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place.
So how do you respond?
kamala harris
Well, let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America.
He invited trade wars.
You want to talk about his deal with China, what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to China.
To help them improve and modernize their military, basically sold us out, when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the 21st century.
Which means focusing on the details of what that requires.
Focusing on relationships with our allies.
Focusing on investing in American-based technology, so that we win the race on AI, on quantum computing.
Focusing on what we need to do to support America's workforce so that we don't end up having, on the short end of the stick, in terms of workers' rights.
But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this, with COVID, is he actually thanked President Xi.
For what he did during COVID.
Look at his tweet.
Thank you, President Xi!
When we know that Xi was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.
unidentified
President Trump, I'll let you respond.
donald j trump
First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan.
We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like they have.
I don't say her because she has no policy.
Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
She's going to my philosophy now.
In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.
She's gone to my philosophy.
If she ever got elected, she'd change it, and it will be the end of our country.
She's a Marxist.
Everybody knows she's a Marxist.
Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.
But when you look at what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say.
I think it's a lot higher than the 21.
That's bigger than New York State pouring in.
And just look at what they're doing to our country.
They're criminals.
Many of these people coming in are criminals.
And that's bad for our economy, too.
You know, you mentioned before, we'll talk about immigration later.
Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy.
They have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane.
Almost policy that you say they have to hate our country.
unidentified
President Trump.
I want to turn to the issue of abortion.
President Trump, you've often touted that you were able to kill.
It's a little messy, but that was good.
Last year, you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American
history.
Then last month, you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive
rights.
Here we go.
Your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six week abortion
ban because you initially had said that it was too short.
And you said, quote, I'm going to look good.
We need more than six weeks.
She looks pale.
He looks like he's glowing and said you would vote to support the six week ban.
Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because
you've changed your position so many times.
Therefore, why should they trust?
donald j trump
Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the voters, they
have abortion in the ninth month.
They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor who's doing an excellent job, but the governor before.
He said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby.
In other words, we'll execute the baby.
And that's why I did that, because that predominates.
Because they're radical.
The Democrats are radical in that.
And her vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it.
But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine.
He also says execution after birth, it's execution, no longer abortion because the baby is born, is okay.
And that's not okay with me, hence the vote.
But what I did is something for Fifty-two years they've been trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states.
And through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices, we were able to do that.
Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.
I believe strongly in it.
Ronald Reagan did also.
Eighty-five percent of Republicans do.
Exceptions.
Very important.
But we were able to get it, and now states are voting on it.
And for the first time, you're going to see.
Look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years.
Every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote.
And that's what happened.
Now, Ohio?
The vote was somewhat liberal.
unidentified
Ohio.
donald j trump
Kansas, the vote was somewhat liberal.
Much more liberal than people would have thought.
But each individual state is voting.
It's the vote of the people now.
It's not tied up in the federal government.
I did a great service in doing it.
It took courage to do it.
And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it.
And I give tremendous credit to those six justices.
unidentified
There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.
Madam Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump.
kamala harris
Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies, and that's not actually a surprising fact.
Let's understand how we got here.
Donald Trump hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade.
And they did exactly as he intended.
And now in over 20 states, there are Trump abortion bans, which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care.
In one state, it provides prison for life.
Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest, which understand what that means.
A survivor of a crime, a violation to their body, does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next.
That is immoral.
And one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree.
The government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.
I have talked with women around our country.
You want to talk about this is what people wanted?
Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are afraid they might go to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot?
She didn't want that?
Her husband didn't want that?
A 12 or 13 year old survivor of incest?
Being forced to carry a pregnancy to term?
unidentified
They don't want that?
kamala harris
And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v. Wade as President of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law.
But understand, if Donald Trump were to be re-elected, he will sign a national abortion ban.
Understand, in his Project 2025, there would be a national abortion monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.
I think the American people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make
decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the government.
unidentified
Thank you, Vice President Harris.
donald j trump
Well, there she goes again. It's a lie.
I'm not signing a ban, and there's no reason to sign a ban, because we've gotten what everybody wanted.
Democrats, Republicans, and everybody else, and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the states.
And the states are voting.
And it may take a little time.
But for 52 years, this issue has torn our country apart.
And they've wanted it back in the states.
And I did something that nobody thought was possible.
The states are now voting.
What she says is an absolute lie.
And as far as the abortion ban, no, I'm not in favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states.
unidentified
Would you veto a national abortion ban if it came to your desk?
donald j trump
Well, I won't have to because, again, two things.
Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.
She'll never get the vote.
It's impossible for her to get the vote, especially now with the 50-50, essentially 50-50 in both Senate and the House.
She's not going to get the vote.
She can't get the vote.
She won't even come close to it.
So it's just talk.
You know what it reminds me of?
When they said they're going to get student loans terminated, and it ended up being a total catastrophe.
The student loans.
And then her, I think probably her boss, if you call him a boss, he spends all his time on the beach.
But look, her boss went out and said, we'll do it again.
We'll do it a different way.
And he went out, got rejected again by the Supreme Court.
So all these students got taunted with this whole thing about this whole idea and how
unfair that would have been, part of the reason they lost to the millions and millions of
people that had to pay off their student loans.
They didn't get it for free.
But they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that, that they talk about
abortion.
unidentified
But if I could just get a yes or no, because you're running the J.D.V.
Vance has said that you would veto if it did come to your desk.
donald j trump
Well, I didn't discuss it with J.D.
In all fairness, J.D., and I don't mind if he has a certain view, but I think he was speaking for me, but I really didn't.
We don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it.
Just like she couldn't get student loans.
They couldn't get student loans.
They didn't even come close to getting student loans.
They taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans.
They can never get this approved.
So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress.
So wonderful.
Let's go to Congress.
Do it.
But the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government.
And we did something that everybody said couldn't be done.
And now you have a vote of the people on abortion.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, I want to give you your time to respond, but I do want to ask, would you support any restrictions on women's rights?
Not prepared?
nick fuentes
You need to be prepared for that question.
kamala harris
I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v. Wade and as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America Is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion.
That is not happening.
It's insulting to the women of America.
And understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans.
Couples who pray and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments.
What is happening in our country?
Working people, working women, who are working one or two jobs, who can barely afford child care as it is, have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs.
You barely can afford to do it, and what you are putting her through is unconscionable.
And the people of America have not—the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body, and that is why, in every state where this issue has been on the ballot, in red and blue states both, the people of America have voted for freedom.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, thank you.
donald j trump
Excuse me, I have to respond.
Another lie.
It's another lie.
I have been a leader on IVF, which is fertilization.
The IVF, I have been a leader.
In fact, when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts, I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in.
I've been a leader on it.
They know that, and everybody else knows it.
I have been a leader on fertilization IVF.
And the other thing, they... You should ask.
Will she allow abortion in the 8th month, 9th month, 7th month?
kamala harris
Come on.
donald j trump
Okay, would you do that?
Why don't you ask her that question?
That's the problem.
Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth.
Just look at the governor, former governor of Virginia.
The governor of Virginia said, we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you.
We're going to turn now to immigration and border security.
We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats, voters across the board in this country.
Vice President Harris, you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America.
We know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration.
This past June, President Biden imposed tough new asylum restrictions.
We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly.
But my question to you tonight is, why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act?
And would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this?
kamala harris
So I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings.
And let me say that the United States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, came up with a border security bill, which I supported.
And that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents on the border to help those folks who are working there right now, over time, trying to do their job.
It would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States.
I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country.
That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
But you know what happened to that bill?
Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress, and said, kill the bill.
And you know why?
Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
And understand, this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand.
But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
And I'll tell you something, he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not the subject that is being raised.
And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies, because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.
He will talk about when mills cause cancer.
And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.
And I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.
You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires.
And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first.
unidentified
And I pledge to you that I will.
President Trump, on that point, I want to get your response.
donald j trump
Well, I would like to respond.
unidentified
Let me just ask, though, why did you try to kill that bill, and successfully so, that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the border?
donald j trump
First, let me respond as to the rallies.
She said people start leaving.
People don't go to her rallies.
There's no reason to go.
And the people that do go, she's bussing them in and paying them to be there.
And then showing them in a different light.
So she can't talk about that.
People don't leave my rallies.
We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics.
That's because people want to take their country back.
Our country is being lost.
We're a failing nation.
And it happened three and a half years ago.
And what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War III, just to go into another subject.
what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come
into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of
towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want
to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs,
the people that came in.
They're eating the cats.
They're eating... They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
unidentified
Let's go.
donald j trump
And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame.
As far as rallies are concerned, as far as... The reason they go is they like what I say.
They want to bring our country back.
They want to make America great again.
It's a very simple phrase.
Make America great again.
She's destroying this country, and if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
Not only success, we'll end up being Venezuela on steroids.
unidentified
I just want to clarify here, you bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.
I didn't expect you to do that.
There have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals.
within the immigrant community.
donald j trump
Let me just say here, this is the people on television saying my dog was taken and used for food.
So maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.
unidentified
I'm not taking this from television.
donald j trump
I'm taking it from the city manager.
The dog was eaten by the people that went there.
unidentified
Again, the Springfield City Manager says there's no evidence of that.
Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard.
You talk about extreme.
donald j trump
Love it.
unidentified
Look at this bitch.
kamala harris
You know, this is, I think, one of the reasons why in this election I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain, including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congress member Liz Cheney.
And if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is, if he didn't make it clear already, just ask people who have worked with him.
His former chief of staff, a four-star general, has said he has contempt for the Constitution of the United States.
unidentified
Let's go.
kamala harris
His former national security advisor has said he is dangerous and unfit.
His former Secretary of Defense has said the nation, the republic, would never survive another Trump term.
And when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed, I think the choice is clear in this election.
unidentified
President Trump, I'll give you a quick minute to respond.
donald j trump
Thank you.
Because when I hear that, see, I'm a different kind of a person.
I fired most of those people.
Not so graciously.
They did bad things or a bad job.
I fired them.
They never fired one person.
They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who were just killed, viciously and violently killed.
And I got to know the parents and the family.
They didn't fire.
They should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen.
So when somebody does a bad job, I'd fire him.
And you take a guy like Esper.
He was no good.
I fired him.
So he writes a book.
Another one writes a book.
Because with me, they can write books.
With nobody else, can they?
But they have done such a poor job, and they never fire anybody.
Look at the economy.
Look at the inflation.
They didn't fire any of their economists.
They have the same people.
That's a good way not to have books written about you.
But just to finish, I got more votes than any Republican in history by far.
Sheesh.
Oh, man.
I got more votes than any president, sitting president, in history by far.
unidentified
Let me continue on immigration. It was what you wanted to talk about earlier,
so let's get back to your deportation proposal that the vice president has reacted to as well.
with a vice. Some good...
He's just a beast.
With local police, yes.
Undocumented immigrants.
operation in the history of our country. You say you would use the National Guard, you say if
things get out of control you'd have no problem using the US military. You also
said you would use local police. How would you deport 11 million undocumented
immigrants? I know you you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this.
Undocumented immigrants. What does this look like? Will authorities be going door-to-door in this country?
donald j trump
Yeah. It is much higher because of them.
They allowed criminals, many many millions of criminals, they allowed terrorists, they allowed common street criminals, they allowed people to come in, drug dealers to come into our country and they're now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela Don't ever come back or we're going to kill you.
Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down?
You know why?
Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country.
And this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow, and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes, but it's not worth it.
Because they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done.
There's never been anything done like this at all.
They've destroyed the fabric of our country.
Millions of people let in.
And all over the world, crime is down all over the world except here.
Crime here is up and through the roof, despite their fraudulent statements that they made.
Crime in this country is through the roof.
And we have a new form of crime, it's called migrant crime.
And it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.
unidentified
President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country.
This guy sucks.
donald j trump
They didn't include the worst cities.
They didn't include the cities with the worst crime.
It was a fraud.
Just like their number of 818,000 jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you.
I'll let you respond.
kamala harris
Well, I think this is so rich.
The GOAT.
Notorious.
from someone who has been prosecuted.
unidentified
The GOAT.
kamala harris
For national security crimes.
unidentified
Notorious.
kamala harris
Economic crimes.
Election interference has been found liable for sexual assault.
W.
And his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.
And let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect
for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement.
The former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement, 45,000 agents, get this, on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts.
So let's talk about what is important in this race.
It is important that we move forward.
That we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people.
Address what we need to do about the housing shortage, which I have a plan for.
Address what we must do to support our small businesses.
Address bringing down the price of groceries.
But frankly, the American people are exhausted with this same old tired playbook.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, thank you.
donald j trump
Excuse me.
Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent.
And I'm winning most of them, and I will win the rest on appeal.
And you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court.
I'm winning most of them.
But those are cases, it's called weaponization.
unidentified
I beat the case.
donald j trump
Never happened in this country.
country. They weaponized the Justice Department. Every one of those cases was involved with
the DOJ, from Atlanta and Fawnie Willis to the Attorney General of New York and the DA
in New York. Every one of those cases. And then they say, oh, he was he's a criminal.
They're the ones that made them go after me. By the way, Joe Biden was found essentially
guilty on the documents case. And what happened in my documents case? They said, oh, that's
That's the toughest of them all.
A complete and total victory.
Two months ago, it was thrown out.
It's weaponization, and they used it, and it's never happened in this country.
They used it to try and win an election.
They're fake cases.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you.
A really quick response here, Vice President Harris, on this notion of weaponization of the Justice Department.
kamala harris
Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place.
The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again.
Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I'm quoting, terminate
the Constitution of the United States.
That he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies.
Someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military.
Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.
Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.
We know J.D.
Vance is not going to stop him.
It's up to the American people.
unidentified
Vice President Harris.
Thank you.
Lindsey?
Vice President Harris in your last run for president.
donald j trump
This is the one that weaponized, not me.
She weaponized.
I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me.
They talk about democracy.
I'm a threat to democracy.
They're the threat to democracy with a fake Russia, Russia, Russia investigation that went nowhere.
unidentified
We have a lot to get to.
Lindsey?
Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, you said you wanted to ban fracking.
Now you don't.
You wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons.
Now your campaign says you don't.
You supported decriminalizing border crossings.
Now you're taking a harder line.
I know you say that your values have not changed.
So then why have so many of your policy positions changed?
kamala harris
So my values have not changed and I'm going to discuss every one of the at least every point that you've made but in particular let's talk about fracking because we're here in Pennsylvania.
I made that very clear in 2020.
I will not ban fracking.
I have not banned fracking as Vice President of the United States and in fact I was the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act which opened new leases for fracking.
My position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil.
We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over-rely on foreign oil.
As it relates to my values, let me tell you, I grew up a middle-class kid raised by a hard-working mother.
Who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager.
The values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed 400 million dollars on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times.
Is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase three million homes, increased by three million homes by the end of my first term.
My work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather.
And my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.
My work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work that I have done protecting seniors from scams.
My values have not changed.
And what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name-calling.
The true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not
in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.
I intend to be that president.
unidentified
President Trump, you're a strong man.
donald j trump
Well, first of all, I wasn't given $400 million.
I wish I was.
My father was a Brooklyn builder, Brooklyn Queens, and a great father, and I learned a lot from him.
But I was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and I built it into many, many billions of dollars.
Many, many billions.
And when people see it, they are even surprised.
So we don't have to talk about that.
Fracking?
She's been against it for 12 years.
Defund the police?
She's been against that forever.
She gave all that stuff up.
Very wrongly, very horribly, and everybody's laughing at it, okay?
They're all laughing at it.
She gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies.
Like, she was big on defund the police.
In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
You don't mind, please.
Does that sound familiar?
unidentified
Yes!
donald j trump
Yes, dude!
unidentified
The GOAT!
That's why he's the GOAT!
Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
donald j trump
This is a radical left liberal that would do this.
that burned down Minneapolis.
She went out and raised money to get him out of jail.
She did things that nobody would ever think of.
Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
This is a radical left liberal that would do this.
She wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania.
If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
Just to finish one thing, so important in my opinion.
So, I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before.
They took, when they took over, they got rid of it, started getting rid of it, and the prices were going up the roof.
They immediately let these guys go to where they were.
I would have been five times, four times, five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago.
They got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling.
You saw what happened to gasoline.
So they said, let's go back to Trump.
But if she won the election the day after that election, They'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead.
Fossil fuel will be dead.
We'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar, where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out of.
You ever see a solar plant?
By the way, I'm a big fan of solar.
But they take 400, 500 acres of desert soil.
President Trump, we have a lot of issues that we have to get to.
We're out of time.
unidentified
Thank you.
He's on leash.
He's on leash.
We have an election in just 56 days.
And I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know is a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis.
Mr. President, on January 6th, you told your supporters to march to the Capitol.
You said you would be right there with them.
The country and the world saw what played out at the Capitol that day.
The officers coming under attack.
Aides in the West Wing say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office.
You did send out tweets, but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message telling your supporters to go home.
Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
donald j trump
You just said a thing that isn't covered.
Peacefully and patriotically, I said during my speech, not later on.
Peacefully and patriotically.
And nobody on the other side was killed.
Ashley Babbitt was shot by an out-of-control police officer.
That should have never, ever shot her.
It's a disgrace.
But we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly.
I ask, what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pour in?
She was the Bordezar, remember that.
She was the Bordezar.
She doesn't want to be called the Bordezar because she's embarrassed by the border.
In fact, she said at the beginning, oh, I'm surprised you're not talking about the border yet.
That's because she knows what a bad job they've done.
What about those people?
What are they going to be prosecuted?
One of these people from countries all over the world, not just South America.
They're coming in from all over the world, David.
All over the world.
And crime rates are down all over the world because of it.
But let me just ask you... But one of those, David, one of those people is going to be prosecuted.
One of the people that burned down Minneapolis is going to be prosecuted.
Or in Seattle.
They went into Seattle, they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle.
When are those people going to be prosecuted?
unidentified
But let me just ask you.
donald j trump
You might ask her that question.
unidentified
You were the president.
You were watching it unfold on television.
It's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election.
This guy's such an asshole.
Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
donald j trump
I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech.
I showed up for a speech.
I said, I think it's going to be big.
I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, D.C., and the mayor put it back in writing, as you know.
I said, you know, this is going to be a very big rally or whatever you want to call it.
And again, it wasn't done by me.
It was done by others.
I said, I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers.
They rejected me.
Nancy Pelosi rejected me.
It was just two weeks ago.
Her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened.
They want to get rid of that tape.
It would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs.
I wasn't responsible for security.
Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
She didn't do her job.
unidentified
The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi.
nick fuentes
Dude, this moderator is such a little faggot.
I was at the Capitol on January 6th.
kamala harris
I was the vice president-elect.
I was also an acting senator.
I was there.
And on that day, the President of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol.
to desecrate our nation's capital.
On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured, and some died.
And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason.
But this is not an isolated situation.
Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing anti-Semitic hate And what did the president then at the time say?
There were fine people on each side.
Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, stand back and stand by.
unidentified
That was awesome.
kamala harris
So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say we don't have to go back.
Let's not go back.
We're not going back.
It's time to turn the page.
And if that was a bridge too far for you, well, there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law, and to end the chaos And to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome.
And be clear on that point.
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking.
Let's turn the page on this.
Let's not go back.
Let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the past.
unidentified
Let me just follow up here.
donald j trump
It was a different term, and it was a term that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy business.
That was where Bloodbath was.
Also, on Charlottesville, that story has been, as you would say, debunked.
Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Jesse, all of these people, they covered it.
If they go an extra sentence, they will see it was perfect.
It was debunked in almost every newspaper, but they still bring it up, just like they bring 2025 up.
They bring all of this stuff up.
I ask you this.
You talk about the Capitol.
Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border?
How come she's not doing anything?
And I'll tell you what I would do, and I would be very proud to do it.
I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
I'd like to see her go down To Washington, D.C., during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time, go down to- because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous- go down to Washington, D.C., and let her sign a bill to close up the border.
Because they have the right to do it.
They don't need bills.
They have the right to do it.
The President of the United States- you'll get him out of bed, you'll wake him up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you'll say, come on, come on down to the office, let's sign a bill.
If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the border patrol, who are phenomenal.
If they do that, the border is closed.
Those people are killing many people, unlike J6.
unidentified
We talked immigration here tonight.
I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you, because it really brings us this into focus.
Truth in these times that we're living in.
Mr. President, for three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won, many times saying you won in a landslide.
In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote, you lost by a whisker, that you, quote, didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short.
nick fuentes
I said that?
unidentified
Are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020?
donald j trump
No, I don't acknowledge that at all.
I said that sarcastically, you know that.
We said, oh, we lost by a whisker.
That was said sarcastically.
Look, There's so much proof.
All you have to do is look at it.
And they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval.
I got almost 75 million votes, the most votes any sitting president has ever gotten.
I was told if I got 63, which was what I got in 2016, you can't be beaten.
The election, people should never be thinking about an election as fraudulent.
We need two things.
We need walls, we need, and we have to have it.
We have to have borders, and we have to have good elections.
Our elections are bad.
And a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote.
They can't even speak English, they don't even know what country they're in practically, and these people are trying to get them to vote.
This is so good.
And that's why they're allowing them to come into our country.
unidentified
I did watch all of these pieces of video.
I didn't detect the sarcasm.
Lost by a whisper.
We didn't quite make it.
This guy sucks.
And we should just point out here as clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges, many of them Republican.
No judge looked at it.
donald j trump
They said we didn't have standing.
That's the other thing.
They said we didn't have standing.
A technicality.
Can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing?
The President of the United States doesn't have standing.
That's how we lost.
If you look at the facts, and I'd love to have you do a special on it, I'll show you Georgia, and I'll show you Wisconsin, and I'll show you Pennsylvania, and I'll show you... We have so many facts and statistics, but you know what?
That doesn't matter.
Because we have to solve the problem that we have right now.
That's old news.
And the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in decline, and they have put it into decline.
We have a nation that is dying, David.
unidentified
Mr. President, thank you. Vice President Harris, you heard the president there tonight. He said he didn't say anything
lost by whisker.
So he still believes he did not lose the election.
This moderator is such a jack off.
That was won by President Biden and yourself.
But I do want to ask you about something that's come up in the last couple of days.
This was a post from President Trump about this upcoming election just weeks away.
He said, when I win, those people who cheated, and then he lists donors, voters, election officials, he says will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long-term prison sentences.
One of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying, we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us, we won't let him suppress the vote.
Is that what you believe he's trying to do here?
kamala harris
Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people.
Does your opponent suck?
unidentified
Yeah.
kamala harris
So let's be clear about that and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that.
But we cannot afford to have a President of the United States who attempts, as he did in the past, to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election.
And I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as Vice President of the United States, and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump.
I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you, and they say you're a disgrace.
And when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election, it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament Or the ability to not be confused about fact.
That's deeply troubling, and the American people deserve better.
unidentified
I'll give you one minute to respond, Mr. President.
donald j trump
Let me just tell you about world leaders.
Viktor Orban, one of the most respected men.
They call him a strong man.
He's a tough person.
Smart.
Prime Minister of Hungary.
They said, why is the whole world blowing up?
Three years ago it wasn't.
Why is it blowing up?
He said, because you need Trump back as president.
They were afraid of him.
China was afraid.
And I don't like to use the word afraid, but I'm just quoting him.
China was afraid of him.
North Korea was afraid of him.
Look at what's going on with North Korea, by the way.
He said Russia was afraid of him.
I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and Biden put it back on day one, but he ended the XL pipeline.
The XL pipeline in our country, he ended that.
But he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany.
The biggest pipeline in the world.
Look.
Victor Orban said it.
He said the most respected, most feared person is Donald Trump.
We had no problems when Trump was president, but when this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago, that if he weren't in that debate, he'd be running instead of her.
She got no votes.
He got 14 million votes.
What you did, you talk about a threat to democracy.
He got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office.
And you know what?
I'll give you a little secret.
He hates her.
He can't stand her.
But he got 14 million votes.
They threw him out.
She got zero votes.
And when she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed.
And now she's running.
I don't understand it, but I'm okay with it because I think we're going to do very well.
unidentified
He hates her!
It's so awesome!
The goat!
He hates her.
Oh man.
It's the God.
He hates her.
, to protect innocent civilians. He said 9 months ago, now an
estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead.
Nearly 100 hostages remain. Just last week, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said,
there's not a deal in the making. President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate.
kamala harris
How would you do it? Ah, well, let's understand how we got here.
On October 7, Hamas, a terrorist organization, slaughtered 1,200 Israelis.
Many of them young people who were simply attending a concert.
Women were horribly raped.
And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself.
We would.
And how it does so matters.
Because it is also true, far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed.
Children, mothers.
What we know is that this war must end.
It must end immediately.
And the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out.
And so we will continue to work around the clock on that.
Work around the clock, also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution.
And in that solution, there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel, and an equal measure for the Palestinians.
But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it relates to Iran, and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel.
But we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security, self-determination, and the dignity they so rightly deserve.
unidentified
President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza?
donald j trump
If I were president, it would have never started.
If I were president, Russia would have never, ever, I know Putin very well, he would have never, and there was no threat of it either, by the way, for four years, have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you added up.
Far worse than people understand what's going on over there.
But when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden she hates Israel.
She wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech.
She refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers.
She wanted to go to the sorority party.
She hates Israel.
If she's president, I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now.
And I've been pretty good at predictions and I hope I'm wrong about that one.
She hates Israel.
At the same time, in her own way, she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up.
Arabs Jewish people, Israel, Israel will be gone.
It would have never happened.
Iran was broke under Donald Trump.
Now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had.
Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different Uh, spheres of terror.
And they are spheres of terror.
Horrible terror.
They had no money.
It was a big story and you know it.
You covered it very well, actually.
They had no money for terror.
They were broke.
Now they're a rich nation and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around.
Look at what's happening with the Houthis and Yemen.
Look at what's going on in the Middle East.
This would have never happened.
I will get that settled and fast, and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended.
If I'm president-elect, I'll get it done before even becoming president.
unidentified
That was tough.
that was tough that's absolutely not true
Boo.
kamala harris
I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people
he knows that he's trying to again divide and distract from the reality
which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy
it is well known that he admires dictators wants to be a dictator on day one according to himself
it is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into
Ukraine it is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine
it was brilliant it is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong Un
And it is absolutely well known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you
unidentified
Based?
kamala harris
to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and
favors.
And that is why so many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are
a disgrace.
That is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on national security, including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, thank you.
donald j trump
And she's the one that caused it.
That's weak on national security by allowing every nation last month for the year,
168 different countries sending people into our country.
Their crime weights are way down.
Putin endorsed her last week.
unidentified
Crime weights.
donald j trump
Said I hope she wins.
And I think he meant it.
Because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible.
It wouldn't have happened with me.
The leaders of other countries think that they're weak and incompetent, and they are.
They're grossly incompetent.
And I just ask one question.
Why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made, Nord Stream 2, the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe?
Because they're weak and they're ineffective.
And Biden, by the way, gets paid a lot of money.
unidentified
Thank you.
We have a lot of issues to get to.
We'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News presidential debate from the National Constitution Center right here in Philadelphia.
Back in a moment.
nick fuentes
Our first break.
unidentified
Awesome debate.
nick fuentes
Are you guys loving this?
Let's take a quick poll.
One's in the chat if you think Trump is winning.
Two's if you think Kamala's winning.
Let's take a snap poll in the live chat.
I think Trump is winning.
I don't know how, like, libtards are liking this.
Probably they're not.
This is awesome.
Trump is back.
And I said, I thought he was going to lose, but I said you can never count him out.
Because he, when he gets under 10 health points, he's able to pull something out miraculous.
And I've never, when is the last time you've seen Trump in this form?
That's probably been at least six months.
Because it didn't, it started this way, actually.
In this primary, he said, I am your retribution.
They're poisoning the blood of our country.
I mean, it was awesome.
And then for like the past six months, it got really lame.
And in the first debate, he was so... Remember the first debate with Biden?
I mean, Biden did really badly, but Trump was very mellow.
And I think when she came with the personal attacks, something happened.
A switch got flipped.
It was like, now you are in the dungeon.
You are in hell.
Welcome to hell.
You are in the monkey house of the zoo, and he's the king of the jungle in there.
It reminds me of when he was in the debate with Hillary Clinton, he was towering over her.
Remember that?
When he was towering over behind her, beating his chest.
It's like the primal dominance on display is unreal.
I think it's when she attacked the crowd size.
She attacked the crowd size.
And the moderator goes, uh, so how do you respond to what she just said?
And he goes, wait, wait, David, I'm going to answer the thing about the crowd size.
Get out of my way.
She said something about the crowds.
That activated something.
And you could see that the playbook went out the window because he's been so intense.
This whole debate the past hour has been so intense, so personal.
And he's really in old form.
You don't see him like this anymore.
Here are my big observations.
One, she's nervous.
She is not ready for primetime.
She is not a national figure.
She has never won a primary.
She's nervous.
I thought she'd be prepared.
She's not.
She looks like shit, and she's nervous.
She's got a dry mouth.
She's stuttering.
She can't handle it.
Trump is in his element.
He got shot in the head.
He is in his element.
He smelled weakness when he walked through the door, when she went over and shook his hand like that was some power play.
He smelled weakness.
And then the personal attack started, and he ripped his shirt off and went Donkey Kong.
And one of the other things I noticed, aside from Kamala being nervous, is he's circling everything back to immigration.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Finally, someone is listening.
That is what I have said.
I have been criticizing Trump for talking about inflation.
And I said, tonight, it's going to be the boring La Civita playbook.
It's going to be inflation.
It's not going to work.
This is the money.
This is the money.
This is the campaign he should be running.
Everything about immigration.
And it's perfect because it's real and it's true.
And this is the issue that voters trust Trump on.
Everyone knows it's a crisis.
Everyone wants it to stop.
They know Biden's allowing it.
And it's like Trump said, they could stop it tomorrow.
This is the issue.
This is his issue that he should be leaning in on.
And he is.
And it is masterful.
And it's perfect.
And you can press this button as many times as you want.
You will never not get returns.
So I said this from the start.
I said abortion is her issue.
Don't get trapped.
Don't get baited into a trap talking about IVF and abortion.
Because everyone that cares about abortion is voting for her.
And I said it's a thorny issue, but you need to just get over it.
You need to just get past it and get on to immigration because that is the issue.
It's like 85% of likely voters trust Trump over Kamala on the border.
So that's your issue.
And I said that from the start, and it looks like finally someone is listening.
Personal attacks are back.
He's in his element.
He's talking about immigration.
I mean, he talked a little bit about the economy.
That was okay.
He got a little trapped on abortion.
He got in the weeds, but he got out of it okay.
Talking about nine months.
That was okay.
So this is excellent.
unidentified
I'm loving it.
nick fuentes
This is the Trump we need to see.
unidentified
This is the guy that's going to win.
Mr. President, it has been the position of the Biden administration that we must defend
Ukraine from Russia, from Vladimir Putin, to defend their sovereignty, their democracy,
that it's in America's best interest to do so, arguing that if Putin wins, he may be
emboldened to move even further into other countries.
You have said you would solve this war in 24 hours.
You said so just before the break tonight.
How exactly would you do that?
And I want to ask you a very simple question tonight.
Do you want Ukraine to win this war?
donald j trump
I want the war to stop.
I want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the millions.
It's the millions.
It's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting, which are fake numbers.
Look, We're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe, which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are.
They're in for 150 billion dollars less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO.
They paid billions and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars when I said Either you pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore.
So that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people.
But you take a look at what's happening.
We're in for $250 to $275 billion.
They're into $100 to $150.
They should be forced to equalize.
With that being said, I want to get the war settled.
I know Zelensky very well, and I know Putin very well.
I have a good relationship, and they respect Your president, okay?
They respect me.
They don't respect Biden.
How would you respect him?
Why?
For what reason?
He hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin.
Hasn't spoken to anybody.
They don't even try and get it.
That is a war that's dying to be settled.
I will get it settled before I even become president.
If I win, when I'm president-elect, and what I'll do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other, I'll get them together.
That war would have never happened.
And in fact, when I saw Putin after I left, Unfortunately, left because our country has gone to hell.
But after I left, when I saw him building up soldiers, he did it after I left.
I said, oh, he must be negotiating.
It must be a good, strong point of negotiation.
Well, it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him.
He had no idea how to stop it.
And now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse.
And it could lead to World War Three.
Don't kid yourself, David.
We're playing with World War III, and we have a president that we don't even know if he's... Where is our president?
We don't even know if he's a president.
And just to clarify here... They threw him out of a campaign like a dog.
We don't even know.
Is he our president?
But we have a president that doesn't know he's alive.
unidentified
Your time is up.
Just to clarify the question.
Do you believe it's in the U.S.
best interest for Ukraine to win this war, yes or no?
donald j trump
I think it's the U.S.
best interest to get this war finished and just get it done.
Negotiate a deal.
Because we have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed.
unidentified
I want to take this to Vice President Harris.
I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment.
But also, as Commander-in-Chief, if elected, how would you deal with Vladimir Putin?
And would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden?
kamala harris
Well, first of all, it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden, you're running against me.
I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up.
And that's not who we are as Americans.
Let's understand what happened here.
I actually met with Zelensky a few days before Russia invaded, tried through force to change territorial boundaries, to defy one of the most important international rules and norms, which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity.
the rules-based order. And I met with President Zelensky. I shared with him American intelligence
about how he could defend himself. Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank,
to Poland and Romania. And through the work that I and others did, we brought 50 countries together
to support Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because of our support, because of the air
defense, the ammunition, the artillery, the Javelins, the Abrams tanks that we have provided,
Ukraine stands as an independent and free country.
If Donald Trump were president, Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now.
And understand what that would mean, because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine.
Understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO.
And what we have done to preserve the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for their independence.
Otherwise, Putin would be sitting in Kiev with his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with Poland.
And why don't you tell the 800,000 Polish-Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch.
unidentified
That's so dumb.
Vice President Harris, thank you.
We've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight.
Afghanistan came up in the last hour.
I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier.
Please, I'll give you a minute here.
donald j trump
Putin would be sitting in Moscow, and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women, but he would have been sitting in Moscow.
Quiet, please.
He would have been sitting in Moscow, much happier than he is right now.
But eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other people don't have.
He's got nuclear weapons.
They don't ever talk about that.
He's got nuclear weapons.
Nobody ever thinks about that.
And eventually, maybe he'll use them, and maybe he hasn't been that threatening.
But he does have that.
Something we don't even like to talk about.
Nobody likes to talk about it.
But just so you understand, they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started.
Three days later, he went in and he started the war.
Because everything they said was weak and stupid.
They said the wrong things.
That war should have never started.
She was the emissary.
They sent her in to negotiate with Zelensky and Putin.
And she did.
And the war started three days later.
And that's the kind of talent we have with her.
She's worse than Biden, in my opinion.
I think he's the worst president in the history of our country.
She goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country.
But let me tell you something.
She is a horrible negotiator.
They sent her in to negotiate.
As soon as they left, Putin did the invasion.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you.
You did bring up something.
You said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin.
Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir Putin?
Can you clarify tonight?
kamala harris
Yet again, I said it at the end.
You're going to hear a bunch of lies coming from this fellow.
And that is another one.
When I went to meet with President Zelensky, I've now met with him over five times.
The reality is it has been about standing as America always should, as a leader upholding
international rules and norms, as a leader who shows strength, understanding that the
alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends
and not favor our enemies because you adore strongmen instead of caring about democracy.
And that is very much what is at stake here.
The president of the United States is commander in chief, and the American people have a right
to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility
in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles
and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery.
nick fuentes
Oh my gosh, it's so dumb.
unidentified
You talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin.
I do want to talk about Afghanistan.
It came up in the first hour of this debate.
I want to move on to Afghanistan.
donald j trump
Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
He got these countries, the 28 countries at the time, to pay up.
He said, I've never seen.
He's the head of NATO.
He said, I've never seen.
For years, we were paying almost all of NATO.
We were being ripped off by European nations, both on trade and on NATO.
I got them to pay up by saying, one of the statements you made before, if you don't pay, we're not going to protect you.
Thank you.
Otherwise we would have never gotten it.
He said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done.
unidentified
Thank you.
I want to turn to Afghanistan.
It came up in the first hour of the debate and we witnessed a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan.
I do want to ask the Vice President, do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out?
kamala harris
Well, I will tell you, I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan.
Four presidents said they would, and Joe Biden did.
And as a result, America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day we were paying for that endless war.
And as of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this century.
But let's understand how we got to where we are.
Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine.
He calls himself a dealmaker.
Even his national security advisor said it was a weak, terrible deal.
And here's how it went down.
He bypassed the Afghan government.
He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban.
The negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorists, Taliban terrorists, released.
And get this.
No, get this.
And the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David.
a place of storied significance for us as Americans.
A place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy, where we invite and receive respected world leaders.
And this former president, as president, invited them to Camp David
because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility
of the President of the United States to be Commander-in-Chief with a level of respect.
And this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military, fallen soldiers, And the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, thank you.
President Trump, your response to her saying that you began the negotiations with the Taliban?
donald j trump
So, if you take a look at that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, a lot of them, with snipers.
And I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing.
That's the fighting force within Afghanistan.
They don't bother doing that because, you know, they deal with the wrong people all the time.
But I got involved.
And Abdul is the head of the Taliban.
He is still the head of the Taliban.
And I told Abdul, don't do it anymore.
You do it anymore.
You're going to have problems.
And he said, why do you send me a picture of my house?
I said, you're going to have to figure that out, Abdul.
And for 18 months, we had nobody killed.
We did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo.
It was a very good agreement.
The reason it was good, it was we were getting out.
We would have been out faster than them, but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers.
We wouldn't have left many Americans behind.
Trump said, I'll kill you.
We wouldn't have left.
unidentified
85 billion dollars worth of military equipment behind.
donald j trump
And just to finish, they blew it.
The agreement said you have to do this, this, this, this, this, and they didn't do it.
They didn't do it.
The agreement was I want to move on.
Determinated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed to do
I want to move and these people did the worst Withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment
in the history of our country and by the way That's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how
unidentified
incompetent she and her boss are President Trump. Thank you I want to move on now to race and politics in this country
Mr. President, you recently said of Vice President Harris, quote, I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago, when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black.
Aura.
I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight.
Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent?
Oh, shut up.
donald j trump
I don't, and I don't care.
I don't care what she is.
I don't care.
You make a big deal out of something, I couldn't care less.
Whatever she wants to be is okay with me.
unidentified
But those were your words.
donald j trump
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black, that she put out, and I'll say that.
And then I read that she was black, and that's okay.
Either one was okay with me.
That's up to her.
That's up to her.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, your thoughts on this?
Love it.
kamala harris
I think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has consistently, over the course of his career, attempted to use race to divide the American people.
You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us, and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us, and especially by race.
And let's remember how Donald Trump started.
He was a land, he owned land, he owned buildings, and he was investigated because he refused to rent.
Well... They were guilty.
black families. Let's remember this is the same individual who took out a full page ad
in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were
innocent, the Central Park Five. Took out a full page ad calling for their execution.
This is the same individual who spread birther lies about the first black president of the United States.
And I think the American people want better than that.
Want better than this.
Want someone who understands, as I do, I travel our country.
We see in each other a friend.
We see in each other a neighbor.
We don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans point their fingers at each other.
I meet with people all the time who tell me, can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the ambitions and the dreams of the American people?
Knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks, we all have the same dreams and aspirations and want a president who invests in those, not in hate and division.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, thank you.
Lindsey?
President Trump, this is now your third time.
donald j trump
This is the most divisive presidency In the history of our country, there's never been anything like it.
They're destroying our country, and they come up with things like what she just said.
Going back many, many years, when a lot of people, including Mayor Bloomberg, agreed with me on the Central Park Five, they admitted, they said, they pled guilty.
And I said, well, if they pled guilty, they'd badly hurt a person, killed a person, ultimately.
And if they pled guilty, then they pled.
We're not guilty.
But this is a person that has to stretch back years, 40, 50 years ago, because there's nothing now.
I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world.
And I'm going to build it again.
It's going to be bigger, better and stronger.
But they're destroying our economy.
They have no idea what a good economy is.
Their oil policies.
Every single policy.
And remember this.
She is Biden.
You know, she's trying to get away from Biden.
I don't know the gentleman, she says.
She is Biden.
The worst inflation we've ever had.
A horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad.
And she can't get away with that.
unidentified
I want to respond to that, though.
I want to just respond briefly.
kamala harris
Clearly, I am not Joe Biden.
And I am certainly not Donald Trump.
And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country.
One who believes in what is possible.
One who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people.
I believe in what we can do to to strengthen our small businesses, which is why I have a
plan. Let's talk about our plans and and let's compare the plans. I have a plan to give startup
businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their ambitions, their innovation, their ideas,
their hard work.
I have a plan.
$6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life.
To help you in that most critical stage of your child's development.
I have a plan.
That is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers.
That's the kind of conversation, I believe, David, that people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name-calling.
Let's turn the page and move forward.
unidentified
President Trump, we have to move on.
donald j trump
President Trump, she has a plan to defund the police.
She has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun.
unidentified
President Trump, you have to move on to other issues.
donald j trump
fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else.
That's what her plan is for just recently.
kamala harris
I just need to respond because the former president has said something twice that I
need to respond to.
unidentified
I'm sorry, we're going to move on Vice President Harris.
President Trump, this is now your third time running for president.
You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.
You have failed to accomplish that.
You now say you're going to keep Obamacare, quote, unless we can do something much better.
Last month, you said, quote, we're working on it.
So tonight, nine years after you first started running, do you have a plan?
And can you tell us what it is?
donald j trump
Obamacare was lousy health care, always was.
It's not very good today.
And what I said, that if we come up with something and we are working on things, we're going
to do it and we're going to replace it.
But remember this.
I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it.
They wouldn't vote for it.
They were unanimous.
They wouldn't vote to change it.
If they would have done that, we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare.
But the Democrats came up.
They wouldn't vote for it.
I had a choice to make when I was president.
Do I save it and make it as good as it can be?
Never going to be great.
Or do I let it rot?
And I felt I had an obligation, even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away.
I decided, and I told my people, the top people, and they're very good people.
I have a lot of good people in this, that administration.
We read about the bad ones.
We had some real bad ones, too, and so do they.
They have really bad ones.
The difference is they don't get rid of them.
But let me just explain.
I had a choice to make.
Do I save it and make it as good as it can be, or do I let it rot?
And I saved it.
I did the right thing.
But it's still never going to be great, and it's too expensive for people.
And what we will do is we're looking at different plans.
If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population, less money and be better healthcare than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it.
But until then, I'd run it as good as it can be run.
unidentified
So, just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan?
donald j trump
I have concepts of a plan.
I'm not president right now.
But if we come up with something, I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive.
And there are concepts and options we have to do that.
And you'll be hearing about it in the not-too-distant future.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, in 2017, you supported Bernie Sanders' proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run healthcare system.
Two years later, you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option.
What is your plan today?
kamala harris
Well, first of all, I absolutely support, and over the last four years as vice president, private health care options.
But what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act.
But I'll get to that, Lindsey.
I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
She's the worst.
kamala harris
I've made very clear my position on fracking.
And then this business about taking everyone's guns away.
Tim Walz and I are both gun owners.
We're not taking anybody's guns away.
So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff.
I love that.
As it relates to the Affordable Care Act, understand, look, just look at the history to know where people stand.
When Donald Trump was president, 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.
60 times.
I was a senator at the time when, I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate, and the late, great John McCain, who you have disparaged, as being a you don't like him you said at the time because
he got caught he was an American hero the late great John McCain I will never
forget that John McCain walked onto the Senate floor and said no you don't
unidentified
no you don't No, you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act.
kamala harris
You have no plan.
And what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions.
I don't have to tell the people watching tonight, you remember what that was like?
Remember when an insurance company could deny If a child had asthma, if someone was a breast cancer survivor, if a grandparent had diabetes, and thankfully, as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act, we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you, the American people.
Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
He never did.
We did.
And now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month.
Since I've been vice president, we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors
at $2,000 a year.
And when I am president, we will do that for all people, understanding that the value I
bring to this is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege
of those who can afford it.
And the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not get rid of it.
Fastest prologue in terms of where Donald Trump stands on that.
unidentified
I want to move to an issue that's important for a lot of us.
donald j trump
You made a mistake.
Number one, John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years.
But it wasn't only him.
It were all of the Democrats that kept it going.
And you know what?
We can do much better than Obamacare.
Much less money.
But she won't improve private insurance for people.
Private medical insurance.
unidentified
That's another thing she doesn't want to do.
donald j trump
People are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they want to have private.
She wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait Six months for an operation that you need immediately.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you.
We have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans, in particular younger voters, and that's climate change.
President Trump, with regard to the environment, you say that we have to have clean air and clean water.
Vice President Harris, you call climate change an existential threat.
The question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change?
And Vice President Harris, we'll start with you.
One minute for you each.
kamala harris
Well, the former president had said that climate change is a hoax.
And what we know is that it is very real.
You ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences, who now is either being denied home insurance or is being jacked up, you ask anybody who has been the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home,
having nowhere to go.
We know that we can actually deal with this issue.
The young people of America care deeply about this issue.
And I am proud that as vice president over the last four years, we have invested a trillion
dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production
to historic levels.
We have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been vice president.
We have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world.
Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs.
He lost manufacturing jobs.
And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Sean Fain, who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American-made products, American automobiles, it includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and
opening up auto plants, not closing them like happened under Donald Trump.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, thank you.
donald j trump
It didn't happen under Donald Trump.
Let me just tell you, they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month.
It's going, they're all leaving.
They're building big auto plants in Mexico, in many cases owned by China.
They're building these massive plants and they think they're going to sell their cars
into the United States because of these people.
What they have given to China is unbelievable, but we're not going to let that.
We'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Auto Workers and any auto worker, whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place.
What they've done to business and manufacturing in this country is Horrible.
We have nothing because they refuse.
You know, Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid him millions of dollars.
He's afraid to do it between him and his son.
They get all this money from Ukraine.
They get all this money from all of these different countries.
And then you wonder why is he so loyal to this one, that one, Ukraine, China?
Why is he?
Why did he get three and a half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife?
Why did he get?
Why did she pay him three and a half million dollars?
This is a crooked administration, and they're selling our country down the tubes.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you.
Thank you.
We'll be right back with closing statements from both of our candidates.
An historic night, this ABC News presidential debate from Philadelphia.
Back in a moment.
nick fuentes
All right!
Second break, second, last break.
I think this debate is ending, so they're going to do a break.
They're going to come back for closing statements.
Yeah, that section was a little weaker.
I'm not going to lie.
It wasn't great.
You know what's really funny?
First of all, follow this channel.
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We're at about 45,000 viewers.
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So make sure to follow this channel.
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So follow and like the video if you haven't already.
You know what's really funny?
If you remember the primary debates in 2016, I'm talking about the GOP primary debate when Trump was up against Rubio, Cruz, Christie.
He got caught on the exact same question.
It was probably his worst moment ever in a presidential debate.
They asked him about health care.
They said, what's your plan to replace Obamacare?
Because all the Republicans just said repeal.
Trump said, we're going to repeal it and replace it with something better.
And I forget which one it was, but they said, what will you replace it with?
And Trump said, well, we'll get rid of the lines around the states, meaning they'll open it up so insurance companies can compete in different states.
And they said, well, that's not a plan.
What do you mean?
You can't just do this.
You can't just say, and he didn't have an answer.
And that was nine years ago.
That was literally, that was literally a decade ago.
And they asked him the same question tonight, and he still doesn't have an answer.
That's what I'm talking about.
You know, with Trump, there's something guttural there.
There's something like, or rather I should say on the gut level.
He's got this instinct.
He's able to pull it off.
But it's messy.
It's sloppy.
It's certainly not optimal.
It's not perfect.
It's things like that, you know, where that was weak, that was rough.
Well, I have a concept of a plan.
Same thing with, like, the abortion answer.
There's some areas where it's a little weak.
But overall, you know, we're coming to a close here.
The closing statement is coming up any second now.
Overall, I was very surprised at this debate performance.
I thought it was great.
I thought he hammered her really hard.
She is not prepared.
Super weak, nervous.
She doesn't have anything.
They have nothing to run on.
It's like all the worst aspects.
They've learned nothing from 2016.
In some ways, I think Biden would be more effective.
Biden is somehow tougher than Kamala.
Even though he's 100 years old and he's dying, he was more tough.
If you look at the debates in 2020, he was a little more tough.
Even in the debate in June, he sounded rough, but he was doing a better job defending himself than she is.
So they've learned nothing.
It's a disaster for them.
The moderation was terrible.
This, it reminds me of how it used to be.
The moderation in June was actually good, believe it or not, and I think they wanted Biden out.
I think that's why.
Because if you look back at June, it was actually extremely fair.
And I'm sure that's because the New York Times, CNN, they wanted Biden out.
They didn't think he could win.
Maybe it's because he went against Israel.
But they wanted him out.
I think that's obvious now.
Because now that it's back on ABC, it's right back to how it used to be.
It's like three-on-one.
They're fact-checking Trump, and they're wrong!
Earlier they said late-term abortion isn't legal anywhere.
Yeah, it is.
It's legal in like eight or nine states.
They said, oh, well, that's not legal anywhere.
Yeah, that's a lie.
Every question is pointed at Trump.
Every follow-up, they're grilling him.
They're not pushing Kamala on anything.
And it's not orderly either.
They're not keeping anybody on top of things.
There's too many rebuttals.
So, the way this debate was organized was really sloppy, moderationist.
This guy that's doing it is an asshole.
The girl, she hasn't really been active, but the guy is the worst.
And he's always been the worst.
So, it reminds me of how things used to be.
And just the way that Kamala talks about Trump, it just makes me fall in love with him all over again.
You know, he's a criminal.
He molested a woman.
He's involved with the Taliban.
He's friends with dictators.
It's making me, it reminds me why I like him in the first place.
So, yeah, I thought the first hour was very strong.
This last half hour, I'm not going to lie, was a little rough.
It wasn't great.
It was okay.
But I'll do a full recap.
We'll listen to our closing statements.
Then we'll do a full recap.
unidentified
Welcome back tonight.
The time has come for closing statements.
And Vice President Harris, we begin with you.
kamala harris
So I think you've heard tonight two very different visions for our country.
One that is focused on the future, and the other that is focused on the past, and an attempt to take us backward.
But we're not going back.
And I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us.
And we can chart a new way forward.
And a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams, the hopes, the ambition of the American people, which is why I intend to create An opportunity economy, investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we can do around protecting seniors, what we can do that is about giving hard-working folks a break and bringing down the cost of living.
I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve, including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world.
I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms, including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do.
I'll tell you, I started my career as a prosecutor.
I was a DA, I was an Attorney General, a United States Senator, and now Vice President.
I only have one client, the people.
nick fuentes
Oh my gosh.
kamala harris
And I'll tell you, as a prosecutor, I never asked a victim or a witness, are you a Republican or a Democrat?
The only thing I ever asked them, are you okay?
And that's the kind of president we need right now.
Someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first.
I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American people.
unidentified
Vice President Harris, thank you.
President Trump?
donald j trump
So she just started by saying she's gonna do this, she's gonna do that, she's gonna do all these wonderful things.
Why hasn't she done it?
She's been there for three and a half years.
They've had three and a half years to fix the border.
They've had three and a half years to Create jobs and all the things we talked about.
Why hasn't she done it?
She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it.
Because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in.
You believe in things like we're not going to frack.
We're not going to take fossil fuel.
We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not.
Germany tried that.
And within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants.
We're not ready for it.
We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision.
But I just ask one simple question.
Why didn't she do it?
We're a failing nation.
We're a nation that's in serious decline.
We're being laughed at all over the world.
All over the world they laugh.
I know the leaders very well.
They're coming to see me.
They call me.
We're laughed at all over the world.
They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.
We're not a leader.
We don't have any idea what's going on.
We have wars going on in the Middle East.
We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine.
We're going to end up in a third world war, and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry.
I rebuilt our entire military.
She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban.
She gave it to Afghanistan.
What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all, is allowing millions of people to come into our country.
Many of them are criminals, and they're destroying our country.
The worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country.
unidentified
President Trump, thank you.
And that is our ABC News presidential debate from here in Philadelphia at the National Constitution Center.
I'm Lindsay Davis.
And I'm David Muir.
Thank you for watching here in the U.S.
and all over the world and from all of us here at ABC News.
Good night.
donald j trump
Wow.
nick fuentes
There you have it.
The second presidential debate.
But don't go anywhere because we're going to do a little live reaction analysis.
We're going to look at the flash polling.
Usually they do a focus group and they do a flash poll about who won.
So I'm very interested to see what the masses thought and what the focus groups thought.
Now that you've seen it, now that we've watched the entire thing, let's take a quick poll.
Who do you think won overall?
Strengths, weaknesses, we'll discuss.
One for Trump, two for Kamala.
Let me know what you think.
Press one for Trump, two for Kamala.
Who do you think won?
And smash the follow button, because the show's not over yet.
We're going to keep going and get into some reaction.
We'll talk about the different segments, and we'll do a little live review and analysis.
Everyone says one.
Everyone says Trump.
Some twos, but mostly ones.
And I'm very curious to see, like I said, some of the flash polling and things like that.
We have to see what the general population thinks.
I have to say, I think Trump won, but with some very serious deficiencies.
It was obviously not perfect.
It was not perfect on every answer.
And I think There were some serious flaws.
I think he got away with a lot because of fanservice, really.
I think he, especially for a guy like me, he talked a lot about immigration at the beginning.
He said a lot of funny stuff.
There were a lot of funny viral moments.
And that really did it for me.
But on a technical level, it wasn't perfect.
I don't even think it was optimal.
I think there were a lot of missed opportunities, and I think severely underprepared.
And, on some level, this is who he is.
It's what we got.
We can harp, and we can complain, and, you know, we can go over all that, and we will.
On some level, it's who he is.
We've been with this guy for 10 years.
He came down the escalator in June 2015.
It's been nine and a half years, and we know him, and we know his strengths, and we know his weaknesses.
And as I said at the very beginning, his strength is his instinct.
He is, he's an instinctual animal.
And when he's scratched like that, he reacts very strongly.
And I think without discipline, I think it was a little too much.
It was a little over the top.
I think he overheated a little bit.
It started out strong and kind of funny and energetic, and then it kind of became a drag.
It became a little too much.
I think it kind of pushed the boundaries of, you know, I think it stopped doing him favors at some point.
But that's how he is.
And it's a strength, but it's also a weakness.
It's this lack of discipline.
It's instinct, which can be very powerful, but also lack of organization, lack of preparation, lack of discipline.
He got, she touched a nerve at the very beginning.
I think he took the bait, started lashing out wildly, you know, and he got some shots in.
There were some funny moments.
I think all, all the moments belong to him.
I don't think Kamala had a single moment.
She has no aura.
She was nervous.
She was weak.
She was stumbling.
I think she wasn't very rehearsed, or if she was, she was too nervous and had maybe performance anxiety.
I think she choked a little bit.
She did a good enough job.
I think it was okay.
I wouldn't say it was a very strong performance.
I think she did an adequate job.
But she had no moments.
She's boring.
And she suffers from the problem that the Democrats have, which is that they can only appeal to women now.
They can only appeal to women, gay people, and very young people.
That's it.
To everybody else, to black men, white men, hispanic men, anybody over the age of 30, to married people.
It just sounds like, mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi.
That's all it sounds like.
It's nagging, it's whiny, it's bitchy.
Ugh, our democracy, we're a bit... So, you know, she did as good as she can.
But that's the Democrats.
It's too female.
It's too, you know, it's overbearing in a different way.
He's too much test.
There was a little bit too aggressive tonight, I think.
It was a little over the top.
And she's the opposite, too much estrogen.
Too much school marm, too much, you know, it's giving grade school principal, it's giving like, you know, cat lady, it's giving nagging bitch, okay?
It's what it is.
So, you know, I think it's sort of unfortunate because Trump did good.
If I were to give him a grade, I would give him like a, I'd probably give him like a B minus or a C plus, but there's no reason it shouldn't have been a grand slam.
And the only reason it's not a grand slam is because he just refuses to do anything technical.
It's all instinct.
It's all reactive.
And he's leaning so hard on personality.
He's leaning very much on humor, on this kind of boyish mischief kind of thing.
You know, he's bullshitting us a little bit, and we're kind of into it.
It's kind of funny.
He's leaning way too much on that.
And I really believe that if he were to really lock in and write some of this stuff out, rehearse an answer, get some new talking points, get a little script going, I think it could do a lot for him.
But it's like I said at the beginning, that's just not him.
It's a major flaw.
It's a major weakness.
It makes him vulnerable on things like health care when he had no response, on things like abortion when he, you know, he trudged through it and he...
He said his thing about late-term abortions.
I don't think anyone's convinced by that.
But it's all bravado.
It's all confidence.
He got mired in kind of a difficult thing in the middle there, where they asked him would he veto a ban, and he's contradicting Vance and says, well, we didn't talk about it.
And then he got out sort of at the end by asking her if she would allow a late-term abortion.
They fact-checked him.
He wasn't able to counter it, although he should have.
And so it's things like that where he makes it out, like he makes it out okay,
but there's really no reason why it shouldn't have been perfect because every one of these questions,
I forecasted it 100%. Anyone could do it. I mean, I think I have good political instinct,
but it's not a surprise.
The betting market said 89% chance they talk about abortion, and obviously they did.
That's the Democrats' platform.
They should have known.
The Republicans should have known every one of those questions in advance, because it was obvious.
And they should have been prepared for them, because that's what it's been, and they've been struggling with it for a long time.
And we're in the endgame here.
It's September.
You need to have an answer.
And it's like I said, he wasn't prepared.
I said at the beginning, they're going to do abortion.
It's going to be her moment.
She's going to give her thing.
She's going to talk about the, and I talked to the mothers that almost died and she's going to give a sob story.
I said, and Trump won't be prepared.
And he's lucky that she stumbled tonight.
I don't think she was great.
She stumbled.
I don't think there was a viral moment from her.
And she didn't look very good.
She looked pale.
She looked really good at the DNC.
And she looked good.
She's been looking good at her rally.
She didn't look good tonight.
She looked rough.
And she sounded rough.
She was nervous.
She had dry mouth, mouth sounds.
She was stuttering a little bit.
You know, she's having a little trouble.
So she didn't score on him, but it was very predictable and I feel like he could have really ran up the scoreboard.
It could have been so perfect, but he can't get out of his own way.
And so it's very frustrating.
And if you watch my reaction during the debate, I'm getting out of my seat.
I'm laughing.
I'm cheering.
We're having a great time.
It's W's.
We love to see some of the stuff.
But other times, I have to facepalm.
Other times, I'm like, come on, man.
Like, you know, we say in the same stuff.
A lot of it doesn't work.
You know the traps are set.
He walks into him.
He takes the bait.
He's got this He cannot get out of his own way because every answer has to steer back to, I'm the man.
Like, every answer.
And that's always the pitfall, like on COVID.
Well, I handled COVID perfectly and no one gives me the credit and we made ventilators.
It's like that stood in the way of what could have been a good answer.
You know, because the solid answer would be, I'm tired of them.
You know, we all know it was a pandemic.
You can't blame me for that.
The recession was because of the pandemic, but we had a V-shaped recovery.
Like, that should have been the answer.
But it had to be, I handled the pandemic perfectly!
I did!
And I never get the credit!
And same thing with healthcare.
You know, the health care thing, talk about inflation, talk about cost, talk about Medicare,
talk about the illegals are taking Medicare. No, he had to say, I did the right thing. I said,
come up with this like convoluted story. No one knows what he's talking about.
He's saying, well, you know, I could have let it rot or I could have saved it and I did the right thing because I'm the man.
And like that's that always seems to be.
That's like the tragic flaw is like he he has so much going for him.
He could be a super politician, a perfect politician on steroids because he's so authentic.
He's so real.
He can cut through the bullshit.
He's got a great instinct.
He's funny.
Genuinely funny.
He's got a great wit.
He knows where the pulse is.
But what he lacks is the discipline.
And what he lacks always is taking the bait.
They cut him and then he's just then it's off to the races and there he goes and sometimes it's good and when it's good it's really good but I fear that about half the time and it seems like more now a lot of the time It's just kind of confusing and meandering and sloppy and you're kind of scratching your head thinking, what is he saying?
And he's leaving so much on the table, a lot of missed opportunities to really land some serious blows.
It would require technical precision.
And so that's the frustration of a Trump supporter.
Because you watch it and some of it is brilliant.
Like the thing about they're eating cats and dogs?
Just brilliant.
And no one else could do it.
When he went in on the Haitians, and I was surprised he went there.
And it was outrageous.
Good.
It was funny.
Good.
And he circled it back to immigration, which is his issue.
Perfect.
It was brilliant.
And like I said, no one else would do that.
No one else could go there.
No one else would go there.
No one else is genuinely funny enough to pull it off, but also serious.
The right tone, and like I said, when he hits, he hits.
And it's a goldmine.
And it's memeable, and it's viral, and that'll be the clip.
Cats and dogs, that's the clip.
When he said, and it's so genius, everyone was playing the Kamala clip where she says, excuse me, I'm talking.
And he said, excuse me, I'm talking.
Sound familiar?
Fucking genius.
Laugh out loud, funny, throwing dirt in her face, humiliating her by taking her line and use it.
It's perfect.
And that's memeable too.
That's enough.
That's going to be the other clip.
You know, and neither of them are grand slams.
They're a little hokey, but they're funny.
They're outrageous.
It's perfect fodder for the internet.
Those will be the viral clips on X tomorrow, in addition to some other stuff.
But those were the big laughs, the outrage.
It's good stuff.
And no one else could do it better.
And that's really kind of what you need to do.
Because that's Hollywood.
He's a TV guy.
And he knows it can be good, it can be bad, but it can't be boring.
It doesn't even need to be 100% true.
It just needs to be outrageous.
And it needs to be big.
And it needs to be intense.
And he brings it.
And sometimes it's a little too much, and it's a little overbearing, because there's no discipline.
And like I said, sometimes he's overheating, he feels himself too much, and he walks right into traps.
He takes the bait, and he's undisciplined, and like I said, sometimes he can't get out of his own way with the ego trip, and it's very flawed, it's imperfect.
The question is, does it, is it gonna work?
That's a question.
Does it pass?
Does it sink or does it swim?
Because at the end of the day, that's what matters.
And I feel like tonight he won.
Now the question is what the broader population will think.
I feel like He might have turned some people off, because I think he overheated.
It might have been a little too sloppy.
He had his moments.
They were good moments.
And, you know, they had people like me excited, thinking this is the old guy back.
But I wonder if he pushed too far, if it was a little too sloppy.
Did he absorb too many hits?
We'll have to see.
So we're going to go into Twitter.
But that's kind of my feeling about it.
It's frustrating.
Cause, you know, like maybe half the time I'm like, this is good.
This is good stuff.
This is the right angle.
He's, he's being strong on this.
You know, he's, he's playing the right part.
And like I said, he's got those, these home runs where it's really funny and outrageous and it's clippable.
It's good fodder for the, uh, for the sound bites and the clips, which is what matters.
But then other times I'm putting my head on my hands, I'm like, what are you talking about?
You know, they ask him about abortion.
He's talking about like student loans.
And you're just like, what's going on, man?
This is, this is, I don't even know what we're doing.
So, but that's who he is.
And like I said, at the very beginning, and that's just how I feel.
This is what we got.
That's who he is.
We know what we're getting.
We know we're getting.
He's not going to change.
He can't change.
It doesn't matter who's around him, for better or for worse.
And I prefer this.
If it's Trump being muted and being gay and being lame versus him being too big and too over the top, I prefer too big and over the top because we can always sculpt that.
We can always massage that.
But he's giving us material to work with.
And he's creating energy.
It's dynamic.
It's dynamic.
And he's forcing them to react to him.
When he says that outrageous stuff, he's kind of putting Kamala on the back foot.
And she was a little scattered.
She had her talking points.
And he really just blew them up by being big.
So you can work with that.
So that's kind of how I feel.
It's frustrating at times.
It's very hard to watch.
You put your head in your hands because you're like, man, Can we not improve a little bit?
Can we be a little disciplined?
Because, you know, someone who's been watching him for 10 years, I'm intimately familiar with the flaws and the strengths.
And you just think we could do a little bit and it could go a long way.
And it could be perfect.
But he's never going to change.
And so that's just kind of what we have to work with.
And so if you could pick, is he gonna do no personal attacks and talk only about the economy, and he's gonna be very laid back, or is he gonna be big and loud and, you know, very messy and very sloppy and take some hits but also deal a lot of damage?
I definitely prefer the latter.
So all in all tonight, It was messy.
It was sloppy.
It was far from perfect.
But I welcome it.
I welcome the—that's how I feel about it.
Deeply frustrated, but at the same time, I welcome the old Trump back.
We got shades of the old Trump.
He looked good.
He sounded good.
He was genuinely funny.
He had some great moments.
He was strong.
He didn't give on anything.
He was on the attack.
Seized the initiative.
This is Trump in his element.
He knows it's a dead heat.
I think he got humbled a little bit.
Back in July, he was thinking, I'm running away with it.
I'm winning.
So I'm going to be unifying.
I'm going to play nice.
When Kamala surged, and she overtook him in the polls, and now it's really neck and neck, I think he senses the danger.
He knows it's kill or be killed.
He knows it's time to rise to the occasion.
That's always when he performs the best.
It's when his back is against the wall.
When he's doing well, he gets complacent.
He gets lazy.
It's just who he is.
When his back is against the wall and he knows it's time to turn on and lock in, every single time he does it.
And sometimes he overdoes it, but he always shows up and he always pulls it out on raw instinct alone.
Just literally force of will.
Like when he got shot.
Just force of will, not scripted.
He gets shot, he gets up and says, fuck you.
That's who he is.
And when he thought he was running away with it, well, he was mellow.
He made a lot of unforced errors.
He left a lot on the table.
Democrats came back.
So he brought it tonight.
He showed up.
He brought it.
It might have been too much.
It might have been too hot.
It might have been too messy.
This is what it's going to take to turn out the voters, because it's a turnout game.
We're not trying to win over the cat ladies.
They already hate Trump.
They have hated Trump.
They hated Trump since he said Rosie O'Donnell.
They hated him before that.
He's the congenital misogynist, you know, big man, alpha male.
They always hated him.
Fuck him.
We don't need to win him over.
He needs to turn out his base, energize them by talking about immigration.
We got a lot of that tonight.
Good.
Welcome back.
This is what's going to win.
So, you know, my critiques, I could be picky and I could be, you know, I could give a very technical critique of every little thing and missed opportunity because I hear it all and I see it all.
But this is the guy that's going to win.
So the good?
Immigration.
Immigration, immigration, immigration.
That's all he should be talking about, and he did that really well in the first hour.
Hitting immigration hard and frequently, that is what he needs to do.
So that was excellent.
He ditched all the gay-ass talking points about inflation and groceries, and he went in on the issue that matters.
Perfect.
Aggression.
He went in on her, took no prisoners.
He attacked her on everything ruthlessly.
Biden not being the president, sleeping on the job, being her boss.
She's a radical.
She should have done it for three years.
She flipped on all her positions.
He said, I'm going to send her a MAGA hat.
Brilliant, funny, perfect.
So Immigration is good.
The energy is back.
It's funny.
It's fresh.
It's outrageous.
He sees the initiative.
And he didn't back down on anything.
He's not trying to win over the middle.
He's not cucking out on everything.
So that's the good to me.
I thought in terms of style, he brought the energy, the humor, the outrage.
Eyes were glued to the screen.
He's got the attention back, because that's really what it is.
We're watching again.
It's fun again.
You know, when he's doing the rallies, and Kamala's right, people are walking out because it's getting boring.
He brought the energy.
And on the issues, he brought it back to the thing that got him there in the first place.
Immigration.
Beautiful.
The thing about the Haitians.
I'll send her a MAGA hat.
Sound familiar?
I'm speaking.
Quiet.
Just beautiful, right?
So that's the good.
In terms of the bad, sloppy, unprepared, disorganized, leaving a lot of stuff on the table, in terms of the stuff on Ukraine, could have really had a far better technical attack.
You know, he's relying on these kind of quips and funny shit.
He really needs to turn on and build a monologue.
He needs to write a truly masterful script on these issues.
Something like, because he's got it on inflation, on the border, on Ukraine.
There's really so much untapped potential there.
If he were just to sit down and write out a monologue that crescendos and hits all the right notes with flair.
and with the facts, he could do like the knockout punch heard around the world, I swear to you.
If he had the kind of discipline to rehearse and write a script with his flair and with
his boldness and outrage, it would be the knockout punch heard around the world.
If he could just write something and crescendo and take advantage of the time, you know,
he's got two minute answers.
They know what the questions are going to be.
The mics are muted.
He's really got an opportunity to say something masterful, and he just hasn't been able to
do that.
If he could, it would be such an asset.
So that's the weakness.
It's the missed opportunities, it's the sloppiness, getting caught on the back foot on things like abortion when you know it's coming.
That's the stuff that's really hurting him.
Those are vulnerabilities that if you seal them up, it could be 100% perfect.
So that's how I would weight the performance.
Those are my big, that's my praise, that's my critique.
All together, I'll take it.
I'll take it messy.
I'll take it raw.
Okay, pause.
unidentified
Pause.
nick fuentes
You know, I like it raw.
I like it raw.
I like it messy.
I like it fucking hot and juicy.
Sorry for the language, but that's how I like it.
That's how I like it in politics.
Okay, pause.
Not anywhere else.
That's how I'll take it.
And I think it's better.
I think it's better for him.
I think it's strategically better.
He needs it to be dynamic.
He thrives when it's competitive.
He thrives when it's dynamic.
He thrives when all bets are off and he's unleashed.
So...
I'll take it a little bit sloppy if it's raw.
unidentified
If it's raw, okay, that's how I prefer it, okay?
nick fuentes
Over this like muted, controlled, where he goes up there and he's trying to be presidential and he's like, look at these groceries, man.
Bacon is so expensive.
I'll take Haitians, you know, they're eating dogs and cats.
I'll send her a MAGA hat.
Excuse me, quiet.
I'll take it that way all day.
And as far as Kamala's concerned, you know, she just sucks.
She just sucks.
She's an annoying bitch.
It is what it is.
She's yapping.
It's everything we hate about the Democrats.
You know, and the thing is, it's so funny, Joe Biden would probably be, I know this is like, a lot of people don't believe me, but Joe Biden probably would have been their best bet.
The debate knocked him out.
There was nothing you could do about that.
But Joe Biden would have been their best bet.
Because, and I've said it before, Joe Biden is similar in almost every way to Trump.
He's a little bit, first of all, he's a guy.
He's a white guy.
He doesn't sound like a nagging bitch.
He's a little rough around the edges.
It's plausible.
I know a lot of it's fake, but it's plausible.
People can buy in that Biden is like a real guy from Scranton.
He's an Irish Catholic.
Yeah, he's from another generation.
He's a little rough around the edges.
We're America, Jack!
You know, it's plausible, okay?
It's all fake, but it's plausible.
It's just enough that people can believe it.
She is everything wrong with the Democrats.
So fake, so phony, rehearsed, scripted, nagging, just lying out of her ass about everything, nagging, nagging, and no substance.
It's all, he's selfish, he's a bad guy, he wants to divide us, I'm a nice person, I care about you, we gotta go forward, not backward.
It's a load of garbage.
Everyone knows it.
The only people that don't know it are like racial minorities, women, and stupid kids.
Those are the only people buying in with the Democrats anymore.
Those are the only people that are throwing in with the Democrats.
It's minorities voting based on their race because they think Republicans are white racists.
It's stupid ass kids who are, they're either, you know, psycho women because all the Gen Z women are insufferable bitches and the pussified men.
And then it's all the like over-educated, professional, managerial class that are, you know, oh, Trump is so uncouth.
He didn't concede.
Oh, he's so boorish.
You know, it's all those fags.
Those are like the only people that are buying in.
It's like, talk about a basket of deplorables.
It's like the most insufferable people that are ruining America.
Those are the ones throwing in with Kamala.
It's the people that just hate whites, they hate our country, they're super gay, you know, they want Kamala because she's like a boss bitch, she's campy, whatever, you know, she's brat.
That's all she, because, mark my words, you show that performance to any white guy, any white guy with balls just like can't listen to that for five seconds.
So, that's how I feel, but you know what?
It's effective.
She went out, she did her job, women are gonna love it.
And you wanna know why?
Women are really screwed up right now.
They're screwed up, they're unpleasant, they're annoying, and a lot of women, they do look at Trump as like a predator, because they're all obsessed with sexual abuse.
S.A., he S.A'd a woman, he graped a woman, And she unalived herself.
Like, that's how women are now.
All women are histrionic about sexual assault and predators.
Like, all women hate men.
And I was thinking about this the other day.
You know what it is?
A lot of women say, well, I don't hate men.
It's like, yeah, maybe you don't hate men, but you hate everything about a man that makes him a man.
All your favorite guys, your funny uncle, your grandfather who's rough around the edges, who's a little racist, guys like Trump, guys like Alex Jones, guys like Elon Musk, those are guys.
And the things That women hate about them are what make them guys.
So, you know, every woman in America today is like, I don't hate, I'm not a, I'm not a man hating bitch, but you know, Trump is just creepy and weird and he's a bully and he's this and it's like, okay, so you hate everything that makes him a guy.
So who are the guys that you like?
And they say people like Pete Davidson.
Fake guys.
Fake, not real men that get a Hillary Clinton tattoo that are not problematic, but really they're the worst offenders.
Fake men with all these fake attributes.
You know, women are high on birth control, so, you know, they like guys based on super weird preferences.
Now it's things like tattoos and they have to look like Lil Peep and stuff like that.
Anyway, I'm getting off on a tangent.
But that's really what it is.
And the gender stratification is real.
The gender, what would you call it?
I used the term earlier.
But the gender gap is increasing.
All the women are with the Democrats.
Because they're shrieking about abortion and sexual assault and being mean.
And all the guys are going with Trump.
Even, like, black guys.
And this is real.
Like, I've seen it.
You know, these kids, these TikTokers, they go and interview black people on the street.
unidentified
And they say, Trump or Kamala.
nick fuentes
And even the black guys, years ago, they'd say, Trump is racist.
Now they're like, Trump all day.
I got to get my money up.
I'm a businessman like Trump, man.
I like making money.
The guys like Trump, the girls like the Democrats.
That's what it is.
And anyway, so that's why it's hard to judge it because you say so-and-so wins, but with whom?
I think Kamala, you know, that performance, she's never going to win my vote.
She's never going to win my vote because she's just another fake, man-hating, annoying woman like they all are now.
We all know a Kamala in our lives.
They're in your office.
Sometimes they're your wife.
They're your in-laws.
We all know Akamala.
Oh, did you hear about Trump?
He's a rapist.
Blah, blah.
They can't stop talking about sexual assault.
And, you know, they were sexually assaulted.
My boyfriend's a narcissist, right?
We all know Akamala.
So that's never going to do it for me.
But I think she did a good enough job.
She was a little weak.
She was nervous.
But I think she did a good enough job.
I think she got through it.
But I think Trump won.
I think pound for pound, Trump won.
If I were to compare it to any of the debates of the past 10 years, I would compare it to The first debate between Trump and Hillary, which focus groups said Trump won.
And they actually did an experiment at a university where they had a guy stand in as Hillary Clinton and a woman stand in as Trump.
This was an experiment they did back in 16 to see if gender played a role.
And a focus group said, just based on, and the actors imitated, a woman imitated Trump and a man imitated Clinton, they went with the woman.
Just pound for pound, based on what was said.
And even the approach, because the actors acted like the candidates.
And so if I were to compare it to any performance out of the three Trump-Hillary debates, or the three Trump-Biden debates spread across 2020 and 2024, I think it was most similar to the first presidential debate in 16 where Trump was very aggressive, hit her on her record.
She was kind of caught off guard, a little bit rattled because she's a woman.
And, you know, I think Kamala is not really a national figure quite.
She hasn't really come into that yet.
She doesn't have that aura that you get when you're the president or just being a guy for that matter.
unidentified
So.
nick fuentes
I think that Trump won.
But let's take a look.
But I want to take a look.
I want to go in and look at the focus groups and see what people said.
Let's look on Polly Market.
Well, let's see what the betting the betting markets say.
Who will win the debate?
unidentified
Whoa.
nick fuentes
OK, the interesting.
The betting markets say 100 percent Kamala will win, according to the polls.
Wow.
I'm actually surprised.
I'm not shocked, but I'm a little bit surprised.
Favor to win on Polly market day after debate, 56% Kamala.
Kamala blowout victory, 23%.
unidentified
Interesting.
nick fuentes
Well, let's take a look on Twitter.
We'll see what Twitter has to say.
unidentified
A lot of my clips.
Let's see.
nick fuentes
Yeah, digits confirm.
This is real, by the way.
This is what I was talking about earlier.
Lord Keck's message will be heard upon the sevens if you reply to this post with it is written.
Seven is the most powerful magical number.
Hillary will win in a landslide.
Britain will vote remain.
Your erections will not be as strong as they once were.
Trump will win $7,777,000. This is what I was talking about earlier, by the way.
unidentified
Which is so great.
All right, but let's see.
nick fuentes
Is there any... Let's see.
Who posted a poll?
unidentified
There's Candace.
nick fuentes
Me and Candace are battling it out in private.
So we'll see what the outcome is.
Maybe I was too hard on her.
We'll see.
We're having it out in private.
So I'm not going to speak on Candace tonight.
unidentified
Maybe tomorrow, we'll see.
nick fuentes
Me and Candace are getting into it a little bit behind the scenes.
We're locking horns.
I love her.
You know, look, I love her.
But we have a little beef right now, but we're trying to squash it.
unidentified
But let's see.
nick fuentes
Who has a poll?
Someone tell me where's the poll.
We need a snap poll.
Does AF Post have it?
Someone tell me in the live chat who has a pole.
unidentified
This guy probably has one, Nick Sorter.
I don't know.
nick fuentes
People are saying, big win tonight!
unidentified
Me, I'm saying it.
nick fuentes
I'm saying that.
unidentified
Let's see.
nick fuentes
Let's see some of the highlights.
donald j trump
Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, spring
unidentified
Thank you.
.
nick fuentes
Where's... Okay, they didn't clip any of the good stuff.
donald j trump
Oh, here we go.
She was big on defund the police.
In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
If you don't mind, please.
Does that sound familiar?
unidentified
She went out...
donald j trump
She went out.
nick fuentes
That was so even she even she had to kneel.
Even she had to kneel.
Because that was a goat moment.
Even she had to say okay, that was awesome.
That was hilarious and awesome.
donald j trump
Now, but eventually, you know, he's got a thing that other people lost 300,000 men and women, but he would have been sitting in my scout quiet place.
unidentified
Quiet doesn't even look at her.
nick fuentes
But where's the poll?
unidentified
Here we go.
I don't know what that is.
Let's take a look.
We got the Tates.
nick fuentes
Are they still live?
It looks like they went offline.
unidentified
Let's see.
robert f kennedy-jr
No polls.
nick fuentes
Someone must have done a focus group.
You know what, Frank Luntz.
donald j trump
This is a W. The people that came in, they're eating the cats.
They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
And this is what's happening in our country.
And it's a shame.
unidentified
That is so good, man.
He is so the GOAT.
nick fuentes
Sneeko goes off!
Face, okay?
donald j trump
Nigga, eat in communion.
nick fuentes
Nigga, eat in the- Drink your Zim Zam water and get the fuck out of my face, okay?
The Zim Zam!
unidentified
The Zim Zam!
Oh, that's- I'm so the goat for that, right?
My friend!
donald j trump
Eat in communion.
unidentified
Nigga, eat in the body of Christ.
Blasphemy.
jonathan karl
Jesus' blood talking about Zim Zam water.
nick fuentes
Blasphemy.
jonathan karl
Alright, bro, I'll drink my water.
You drink your blood.
unidentified
Holos!
nick fuentes
I will!
Take your Zim Zam and your pajamas and get the fuck out of my face.
I'm a Catholic.
jonathan karl
Alright?
nick fuentes
I didn't want- we didn't have to- it didn't start out this way.
unidentified
Eat- eat your- eat your- your cannibal- eat your cannibal crackers, nigga!
nick fuentes
Okay, this guy's a blasphemer.
This guy's a blasphemer.
When we create the confessional state, he will pay for that.
He will pay for those remarks, I swear.
I swear.
You know, we're- Catholics aren't supposed to take, you know, oaths to God.
But I, you know, we're going to let him stay.
But I swear, when there's a Catholic confessional state, he will pay for his blasphemy on God.
When we take over, when there's a Catholic monarchy in America, he can stay.
Because he's my friend, but he will pay for those remarks.
There will be lashes.
There will be lashes.
Maybe we'll cut out his tongue.
I don't know.
That's what they do.
We're not so... We're not, you know, Catholics aren't really brutal like that, because we're good people.
But there will be lashes.
Well, maybe not lashes.
That might be racist, if there were lashes.
We won't do lashes.
Maybe we'll do something else.
We can't whip him, because he's black.
We can't whip him.
There will not be, never mind, there won't be lashes.
That would be somewhat racist if we were whipping him because he is black.
So we'll have to do, we'll have to do something else.
But he will pay for the, when there is a Catholic confessional state, he will pay for the blasphemy.
He can stay, though he'll get paddled.
He'll get paddled, waterboarded maybe, since he's, you know, it is what it is.
No, but we love... It's a little banter.
It's a little banter, everybody.
You know I love Sneeko.
I love Sneeko.
He's a good guy.
I think he has a good heart.
I'm giving him a hard time, but the blasphemy, there will be a penalty.
And it won't be personal.
It's just business.
But all right, let's see.
Where's the focus group?
unidentified
Hahaha Keith is so funny way.
nick fuentes
Keith Woods, very funny guy, funny guy, my friend Keith.
Let's see.
You don't get, you know, Keith hates Trump, so he doesn't get to enjoy, you know, Keith hates America, and Keith hates Trump, so there's something a little off when he's like celebrating these moments.
They're not, you know, they really shouldn't be his, because he hates America secretly, and he hates Trump.
Because he's all about the third world and, you know, these smaller countries.
Just saying.
He hates the bigness of Trump, of America.
He hates the bigness of our submarines.
He hates the bigness of our territory.
unidentified
Let's go.
nick fuentes
I gotta tweet.
You gotta retweet this, okay?
Trump is fucking back.
Sorry for the language.
I apologize for the language.
I shouldn't swear.
unidentified
Okay, W. W. John Miller.
So true.
That's so true, Caitlin.
Thank you.
nick fuentes
But we need a focus group.
Does anyone have one?
Link me a focus group.
Oh, here we go, here we go.
Who won the debate?
46%, this is in Rhode Island, 46% say Kamala, 51% say Trump.
Okay, our first poll.
Let me see if, you know, the Trump people are only gonna post the ones that are good for Trump.
Here's another one.
This is a Twitter poll.
I don't know where this is from, though.
It says Channel 8, local NBC affiliate.
53% say Trump.
L.A.
poll, Los Angeles, 49% Trump, 51% Kamala.
You can't see it because of my head.
NJ.com, New Jersey's largest news site, 53.
So it looks like it's, and these are flash polls.
They're not scientific, but they are in blue states.
And we'll know tomorrow.
They'll conduct formal polls probably tomorrow or the day after.
But the flash polls, the shock polls say Trump won.
Not scientific, not perfect, but the data we're getting so far says Trump won, which is about what I said.
It was messy.
I don't think he ran away with it, but I think he won.
Yeah, that was the most goaded thing ever.
unidentified
Trump hit her with the I'm Speaking, Chad Champion.
nick fuentes
That's my president.
The dog thing was awesome.
Even when Trump says she hates Israel, she hates Israel.
There is something funny about saying that.
I know it's gay.
I know it's super Jewish.
But there is something funny about just saying it outright.
Well, she hates Israel.
And you know what else was funny is when he said, I'll let you in on a little secret.
He hates her, he says about Joe Biden.
He goes, I'll let you in on a little secret.
unidentified
He hates her.
nick fuentes
It's great content, if nothing else.
Fox News, Trump had a bad night.
So Fox News said that Trump lost.
Here's RFK.
Let's look at RFK's reaction.
robert f kennedy-jr
Fact-checking Donald Trump.
None of these kind of whoppers that the vice president was saying, and none of her failure to really explain that, answer that first question, that very, very critical first question.
They simply sat there on the sidelines and allowed that to pass.
nick fuentes
Fortunately, we had- Okay, he didn't evis- The street said he eviscerated that.
It's true.
I don't know if it was evisceration.
donald j trump
She went out- Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
If you don't mind, please.
unidentified
Does that sound familiar?
He's such a boss.
nick fuentes
That's, at the end of the day, he is a boss with aura.
And, you know, he makes a lot of mistakes.
It's not perfect, but at the end of the day, he's just a boss with aura.
unidentified
He's a goat with aura.
Auraful goat.
nick fuentes
He's a W.
donald j trump
She was big on defund the police.
In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
If you don't mind, please.
unidentified
Does that sound familiar?
nick fuentes
So cold.
Like, the delivery is just so cold.
Stops for a beat, takes a... No other Republican could do that.
You think J.D.
Vance could do that?
Do you think Mike Pence could do that?
Do you think that DeSantis could deliver it like that?
unidentified
No.
nick fuentes
Because they're not goats.
DeSantis could never, J.D.
Vance could never, ever deliver a line that cold.
unidentified
Excuse me, I'm talking.
nick fuentes
Sound familiar?
It's just dripping aura.
I know, I know, but it's just true.
donald j trump
She was big on defund the police.
In Minnesota, she went out, wait a minute, I'm talking now.
If you don't mind, please.
Does that sound familiar?
unidentified
Look at her.
nick fuentes
Look, look at how she reco- like she got a shotgun blast to the chest.
Look, just totally derailed.
Yeah.
Shut her right- shut her ass down.
Shut her ass down.
donald j trump
E- easily.
nick fuentes
Look at- she's got nothing.
She's- look at that face.
Look at the eyes.
Cover her mouth.
Look at the eyes.
unidentified
Let me move myself so you can see what I'm talking about.
nick fuentes
Look at the eyes.
The raised eyebrows.
unidentified
She got devastated.
donald j trump
I'm out.
nick fuentes
Destroyer of worlds.
It was awesome.
unidentified
Simply the best.
nick fuentes
Simply the GOAT.
And you know me.
I'm not heaping praise upon Trump lately.
I think a lot of this stuff is cringe.
The tic-tacs, the Hannibal Lecter, run, spot, run.
You know, a lot of it's... I'm not just, like, glazing endlessly.
But I will for that, because that was... That was an epic win.
Okay.
That was an epic win, and he pwned that noob.
unidentified
Bitch.
nick fuentes
So, and you know me, I'm not one of those people, especially lately, that's just, you know, oh, Trump is so, I'm the most critical one.
Oh, looks like she had secret microphone earrings.
I don't know if I buy that.
I thought that was my best debate ever since it was three on one.
It was, I don't think it was as good as the second one with Hillary, but I would agree it was definitely up there.
I would say it's probably like Hillary 2.
I would say it's probably Hillary 2, maybe Hillary 1, and then this one.
I think this one is definitely in the top three of all time out of general election, not primary.
I don't think those count because it's too complicated.
But out of the three debates with Clinton, the three debates with Biden, the one with Kamala, I think it's either number two or number three.
All time.
Hillary Clinton debate number two was probably, I think that's indisputably the best.
That's how I feel about it.
The Abdul story was so good.
And I love that he implies that he kills people.
Like Donald Trump, you know, as a private citizen, is a pretty cool guy.
Donald Trump as the president is threatening to kill people.
And then he does.
unidentified
Then he kills people.
nick fuentes
Then he kills terrorists.
Trump gave the order and they killed a guy.
Donald Trump said to the leader of the Taliban, I will kill you, and he meant it.
unidentified
The GOAT.
Richard Spencer.
Kamala one, of course.
nick fuentes
The congenital, before anybody calls me the new Richard Spencer, the congenital contrarian.
So, I just think that like, Kamala one, okay?
Trump is sort of, it's utterly ridiculous.
unidentified
And it's just sort of, you know, Trump is sort of ridiculous.
nick fuentes
Utterly ridiculous.
It's like utterly ridiculous.
And it's just sort of like, you know, it was fun, but it's just utterly ridiculous.
unidentified
And he's voters.
nick fuentes
I mean, give me a break.
Give me a break.
Give me a break, Trump.
unidentified
I mean, it's like, give me a break.
nick fuentes
Kamala fucking won.
unidentified
That's my Richard Spencer impression.
nick fuentes
You know I like him.
I think he's funny.
I say that lovingly.
That's my loving impression of Spencer.
Give me a break.
I mean, give me a break, you fucking... Kamala won.
Utterly ridiculous.
Sort of like, ugh.
That's my, you know, but I say that lovingly.
I like Spencer, but it's so predictable.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick fuentes
I'm going to put $10 million billion on Spencer saying Kamala won.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Can I get, hey, can I get a bookie?
I'm going to put $10 million trillion on Richard Spencer saying Kamala won.
I think I would put that down on July 22nd.
When Trump and Kamala debate, I'm going to put all the money in the world and ever on Spencer saying Kamala.
There's literally zero permutation of possible events that could ever exist in the multiverse where Spencer says Trump wins.
I'm just going to put a little money on that real quick.
No, but I say that love.
I think he's funny.
But I, you know, I, hey, everyone takes everything so personally.
It's just a loving impression, but it's true.
unidentified
Oh, man, that's funny.
What else?
nick fuentes
We're having fun.
Dude, are you having fun yet?
The election is fun again.
It was so lame.
The RNC was just like torture.
I think I would rather be subject—well, I don't want to, you know, knock on wood, because, like, someone would, but, like, torture would be preferable to the RNC and the DNC combined.
It was, like, my personal hell.
That was my personal hell.
I was stuck here with you, watching the RNC, and it was, like, another black guy.
How about another black guy?
How about another—I felt like—remember when that, uh, What was her name from Alabama, said the response to the State of the Union.
They were being raped over and over.
That's what it felt like at the RNC and DNC.
One after the other.
unidentified
My mama ain't got a dollar, but she knew a little something about being president of the United States.
nick fuentes
One after the other, after the other, after the... And it's just like I lost track of time.
I forgot who I was.
It was like ego death.
I don't even know who I am anymore.
Why are they sending this guy out?
It's like the guy came up.
It's like those TikToks when you have a set of identical twins and one of them comes up to the guy and they're like, wake up, wake up.
And then they go down the escalator and the guy that looks identical says the same thing.
It's like a simulation prank.
They sent out a black Republican.
unidentified
My daddy was a janitor and my mama, big cotton.
And now I'm a senator in the United States Senate.
nick fuentes
And then that guy turned around and left.
And then he turned around backstage and then he walked back out and said the exact same thing.
And then he turned around and left, spun around in a circle, came out, and then he gave the exact same speech.
And I'm like, am I going crazy?
Is this like Shutter Island?
Is any of this real?
Am I on some kind of DMT trip?
What kind of convention is this?
What kind of psychological horror torture chamber is this?
You know, that was the RNC.
Then they prayed to Waheguru, and then I definitely thought I was out to lunch.
They sang that song to Waheguru, and I'm like, where are we?
What happened?
Is this another timeline?
Anyway, so, so anyway, so are you having fun?
I'm having a lot of fun tonight.
Trump made it fun.
It was funny.
It was good content.
He talked about immigration.
I feel good.
I feel good.
I'm very pleased.
And you know what?
Groyper War smiles upon this performance.
The official position, the Groypers smile upon this performance.
The Keck, Keck is pleased.
I believe that if Keck is watching this performance, Keck smiles upon the performance.
And the Groipers smile upon the performance.
We look favorably upon it, and it will reflect in our treatment of Trump.
I thought it was excellent.
What do the Groipers think?
Put a W in the chat, W or L, for the performance tonight.
I want to take a poll from the Groipers.
Let's have a little show of support here.
W's in the chat if you think, as a Groiper, that Trump got you a little bit back on his side tonight.
Is Trump earning your support back?
Put a W in the chat.
A lot of W's.
I think it's unanimous.
unidentified
More of this.
nick fuentes
We need more of this.
I'll take a thousand.
This was excellent.
Great night tonight.
But let's take a look if we have a snap poll.
Do we?
John Miller, MAGA hat back on.
unidentified
There's that face.
nick fuentes
Now there's a black for Trump that I can support.
unidentified
That's funny.
a Yeah, no, but we it's a big love fest.
nick fuentes
It's a love fest tonight.
We're loving on my impression.
Dude, the clipping is insane.
Dude, they clip that 10 seconds.
I think they finished clipping that before I finished saying it.
unidentified
Trump is sort of ridiculous.
nick fuentes
Utterly ridiculous.
It's like.
Utterly ridiculous.
And it's just sort of like, you know, it was fun, but it's just utterly ridiculous.
And he's voters.
I mean, give me a break.
Give me a break.
Give me a break, Trump.
It's like, give me a break.
unidentified
So good.
That's a good impression because that's how he says it.
nick fuentes
Oh man, we're having a good time tonight.
We hit 100,000 subs on Rumble.
Thank you so much for 100,000 subs.
I'm going to see if I can get a flash poll here.
I think they said CNN did one.
Let me get CNN.
Well, look at that.
I don't know if I'll read super chats.
Oh, I'm going to have to.
There's like 50 of them.
I'll read the super chats, then I'm going to get out of here.
It's not a ton, but it's enough.
I'll do it.
Let's see, okay, well this isn't, we need like CNN news or something.
Let's take, or politics?
They said someone did a, CNN did a focus group.
That's what I'm looking for.
Maybe Frank, Frank Luntz probably did one, right?
I think he blocked me though.
No, okay, we're good.
Oh, he's just seething about Trump, this fat, fat little Jew.
unidentified
Um...
nick fuentes
Trump sucks.
Isn't it interesting, though, that, like, all the people that suck hated it and all the people that are cool loved it?
Well, there's a lot of shills that like it.
I mean, they would eat it up no matter what.
unidentified
Dude, come on now.
Who do you got winning this debate?
nick fuentes
Come on now.
We can't, dude, stop.
Get that off the timeline.
This is, this is a, come on.
I disavow that.
Come on, don't.
He said, he said Israel and Edwards win the debate.
I said, don't ever say that again.
Okay, now the cringe Trump impression.
unidentified
Hey, we all have to do it once, once in a while.
nick fuentes
Knew we were getting primal Trump when I, dude, he's the emperor.
Awe, true to Caesar.
unidentified
or... We're back. We're back.
nick fuentes
See, we don't even have to fake it.
Cause it was good.
unidentified
Oh geez.
nick fuentes
Ben Shapiro.
This debate won't matter.
And was just eliminated as an inflection point.
The American people still know nothing about her positions.
Donald Trump is still Trump.
And the legacy media are a giant flaming dog turd.
Giant flaming dog turd.
Why is it always scatological?
Why are they always talking about poo?
Why are these sick Jews always talking about poo?
Sick Jews always talking about shit and piss.
It's really pissing me off lately.
Really frustrating.
Clean up your act.
Clean up your act, you little goblin.
Family show.
And flaming dog turd.
They're always talking about poo.
You ever notice that?
freaks. Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala. A Jewish right A big surprise.
Big surprise!
The Jews don't support Trump.
Some of them do.
Alright, I don't know.
Are we going to get a flash poll?
I mean, I'm looking for one.
Is anyone doing one?
I feel like that should be everywhere.
unidentified
Maybe AF Post?
This is Spencer just making sure I don't fit in.
Very good.
Well done.
nick fuentes
I love it.
Dude, we're back.
We're having fun.
It's a great, funny debate.
Everyone's having a good time.
Refill your popcorn.
unidentified
This is wholesome.
nick fuentes
This is a homecoming.
Dude, Chad Champion's funny.
We're all the funny Groypers.
We need more funny Groypers.
Chad Champion's a funny Groyper.
Finn is a good Groyper.
unidentified
Who else?
nick fuentes
Holocaust Incel or something?
He's a good poster.
I don't even know what his handle is.
It's very inappropriate.
But he's funny.
We need more funny Groypers.
We need really funny content.
Everything's super cringe lately.
unidentified
Oh, come on.
nick fuentes
You know, they're having a little trouble with the view count.
Come on, Sam.
unidentified
It's a little glitched.
Let's see.
nick fuentes
W, Megyn Kelly.
W, bleeding from her wherever.
unidentified
All right.
nick fuentes
Where's the flash poll?
unidentified
Whatever.
nick fuentes
Alright, maybe we'll just do Super Chats.
I can't find a poll.
I'm seeing, you know, there's a lot of, like, online polls.
Look at this.
Minutes of speaking time.
Harris got 28 minutes.
Trump got 35.
So he got 25% more time.
A little quick math for you there.
25% more time than Kamala.
I did notice that as well.
Yeah, well that's our overall takeaway.
So I think Trump won.
You know, I think he overheated a little bit, but I welcome it.
I welcome the new Trump, or the old Trump, I should say.
Old Trump is back.
I hope he keeps that energy.
Keep talking about immigration.
keep being outrageous, funny, all that stuff.
I can't seem to find a poll, but yeah, Taylor, I guess this just happened.
unidentified
Thank you.
nick fuentes
Like many of you, she says.
Like many of you, I watched the debate tonight.
If you haven't already, now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take on the topics that matter the most.
As a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything I can.
Recently, I was made aware of that AI of me falsely endorsing Trump, and it was posted to a site.
It really conjured up fears around AI and the dangers of misinformation.
It brought me to the conclusion that I need to be transparent about my actual plans.
I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris.
I'm voting for Kamala Harris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of a running mate who has been standing up for LGBTQ plus rights, IVF, and a women's right to her own body for decades.
Your research is yours to do.
The choice is yours to make.
Vote early.
With love and hope, Taylor Swift, Childless Cat Lady.
Oh, fuck off, you stupid bitch.
I'm just so sick of- I'm really just sick of the women, man.
You know?
Since- With love and hope, Taylor Swift.
P.S.
I'm a childless cat lady.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha.
nick fuentes
Fucking stupid bitch.
I hate it, man.
Her and her, you know, beta male boyfriend, they're d- Oh look, they're dancing at the game!
Oh, they're so cute!
This was timed.
This was planned.
They had this one teed up.
This was their ace in the hole.
However the debate goes, Taylor Swift's going to endorse and take the news cycle.
You know 100% this was planned with the campaign.
She's a MKUltra operative, practically.
She's a New World Order slave.
So she's gonna go up there.
The fix was in from the beginning.
However the debate goes, she's going to come in at the end of it and say, oh, I endorsed Kamala and that's all anyone's going to talk about.
That was their backup plan.
They rigged the debate with the moderators.
The moderators were full of it.
Rigged it with the moderators.
Kamala sucked.
And now Taylor Swift comes in.
That's the ace in the hole.
The biggest pop star in the world with the highest grossing tour ever comes in with all the impressionable women and young people and says, I'm a childless cat lady.
I'm going to endorse Kamala because of abortion.
Vote early, and now they're all going to vote early.
It's like I said, that's why it's a turnout game.
Because Trump is never going to beat the stupid bitches with abortion and with IVF.
You just need to turn out your base.
You need to turn out guys.
You need to turn out conservatives.
You need to turn out white people.
Because they're going to turn—all the women are going to say, yes, vote for Kamala.
Oh my god.
Like, whatever.
That's how it goes.
All those idiot girls that went to this concert and dragged their stupid boyfriends and they put on this dreadful makeup and did their stupid hair and dressed with their slutty outfit.
They all go to the Taylor Swift thing, boyfriend in tow.
Come on, honey, come on.
Buy me a ticket to Taylor Swift.
Pay for parking, pay for dinner, buy me an appetizer, buy me a drink, put your card down, or I want, you know, that whole deal.
And now they're all going to vote for Taylor Swift.
So it's a load of cry. Just I'm so sick of it.
This country's ridiculous.
Country's being, like, raped by immigrants, and, you know, the Jews bought the politicians, and the fix is in because of, like, the most insufferable women you've ever met who hate men, who hate their fathers.
And there's Brandt doing his thing.
Brandt says hello from Korea.
And there's- and there's Brandt doing his thing.
unidentified
Holocaust rape is what it was the real handle.
nick fuentes
Yeah, that's great optics.
Oh, and she's got a cat.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, you're washed.
unidentified
Wall.
nick fuentes
Talk about building a wall.
She ran into it.
Trump built a wall and Taylor Swift ran into it.
All right.
unidentified
That's kind of funny.
nick fuentes
Kind of, but not really.
Alright, let's take a look at the super chats Something to do with cats cats
Cats were like revered in Egypt, and now it's eating cats, cat lady, cat boy.
What is it with cats?
There's something going on.
Mark my words, there is something gnostic going on with the cats.
There's something going on with cats and frogs.
Isn't it the year of the tiger?
There's something going on with cats and frogs.
Cats revered in Egypt.
Feline god.
Haitians eating cats.
Cats with Trump.
Cat boy.
Nick Fuentes cat boy date.
Taylor Swift cat lady.
Kamala Harris cat lady.
What's going on?
We gotta get to the bottom of this.
We need to get to the, but what's going on with the cats?
It's all cats.
I hate cats.
I'm allergic to them.
So, yeah, there's something up, but there's something esoteric going on there.
Same thing with frogs.
I don't know, I don't know what Pepe, Groyper, Kek, there's something up.
Something going on.
unidentified
Anyway.
nick fuentes
All right, but let's take a look at our Super Chat.
unidentified
That's kind of funny.
nick fuentes
Let's take a look at our Super Chats.
We'll see what we got going on here.
Follow me on RumbleFacebook.
Follow me on Twitter.
Juice my tweet.
I'm gonna delete this now.
unidentified
It's killing my engagement probably.
And these two.
nick fuentes
Not good for engagement.
Look at these clips.
These clips are crazy.
15,000 likes.
A million views.
W. Pretty big stream.
unidentified
48,000.
nick fuentes
We peaked at almost 50,000.
Dude, the goat is back.
Return of the goat.
Exiled.
In a lot of ways, unlike Trump, I was exiled for four years.
I had 70,000 on DLive on election night.
Was sent into the wilderness for four years.
Came back awesome style, aura-fully.
And now I run Rumble, third biggest stream on Rumble.
unidentified
What up?
Anyway.
nick fuentes
All right, but let's take a look at our Super Chats, then I'm gonna get out, excuse me, get out of here, because it's been a long stream.
Four-hour stream, so let's take a look.
We'll read these, and then I'm gonna go.
Tomorrow, for those that don't know, I'm on the air every weeknight at 8 o'clock Central Time.
I'm live every night, Monday through Friday, at 8 o'clock Central.
I'll be back tomorrow at 8, and I'll give a full analysis, breakdown, very technical, about the debate.
We'll talk about the polls, everything.
So, you don't want to miss tomorrow, because we'll go into all of it and the Taylor Swift thing.
So tomorrow, eight o'clock, tune in.
I do this show every night.
Welcome new viewers.
If you're just tuning in, well, you're probably not, but if you just tuned in tonight, I appreciate you tuning into my live coverage.
Thank you guys for the big support tonight.
Big viewership.
Love all of you.
Welcome in.
We're going to be covering everything from now until the election.
I'm locked in.
unidentified
Okay.
nick fuentes
But let's take a look at our Super Chats.
We'll see what you guys have to say.
We got about 50 of these.
So we'll go through them.
unidentified
I'm going to be a little strategic.
nick fuentes
We have a huge audience.
I may save some of these for tomorrow.
Maybe I'll just read the big ones.
streamlabs matthew tts
Al Dente sent $100.
Cheers.
nick fuentes
Cheers!
Thank you for the big Super Chat.
streamlabs matthew tts
Good times, right?
nick fuentes
No, she got schlonged.
Tonight, Kamala got schlonged.
I was wrong.
Well, I'm not really wrong, because everything I said came to fruition.
Trump pulled the wild card.
Kamala did what I thought she would.
Trump was unprepared, but he salvaged it, because he always pulls it out.
So I was basically on the money, but thank you for the huge super chat!
07s to A$AP Groipa.
Part of the A$AP mob.
I appreciate it, man.
God bless.
Yeah, no, Kamala got schlonged.
And by that, I mean she got beaten very badly tonight.
And it was awesome.
And the goat is back.
And you know, the Groipers smile favorably upon this.
streamlabs matthew tts
Kenton Meyer sent $50 new Katie. Yeah true Let me post a serious take though
unidentified
I'm gonna post a serious take though I'm gonna post a serious take though
nick fuentes
Let me do this lowercase.
Official take.
That's my official take.
Retweet it.
Like it.
Retweet it.
Quote, tweet it, comment.
Tonight, Trump was bold, outrageous, genuinely funny, and most importantly, focused on immigration.
This is the America First playbook that he needs to run until the election and what will save the country.
Epic performance tonight.
W. Trump.
Retweet it, like it, and deploy it.
Deploy it in your daily existence.
All right, but let's look at some more super chats.
A little live tweeting.
We're having a good time.
unidentified
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Boom.
nick fuentes
Another.
And another one.
But just retweet this one.
Just retweet this main one.
Retweet.
We could do this stuff with the other one, but mainly juice this one.
All right.
Let's, uh, let's see.
Do we have any other big ones?
I think those are the big ones.
I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna save the smaller ones for tomorrow because it's gonna be a lot of crap, you know?
Maybe I'll I'll kind of pick some of these out.
streamlabs matthew tts
I don't want to do a bunch of nonsense tonight where people are trolling me.
nick fuentes
Thank you, man.
Yeah, huge night.
Honestly, huge night for Trump.
Huge night for me.
48,000 live viewers, 100,000 subs.
Thank you guys all for the support.
I really appreciate it.
I know I give people a hard time in the super chats, but I genuinely appreciate it.
And yeah, I thought tonight was a great night.
A lot of fun, good content, high energy.
All good.
You know, it makes me feel like it's been a lot of black pills lately.
Tonight was a white pill.
Tonight was good.
streamlabs matthew tts
Thank you so much.
Thank you for the big super chat, man.
I really appreciate it.
Love you too, buddy.
Viewership and 100k followers. Thank you so much. Thank you for the big super chat, man. I really appreciate it
nick fuentes
Love you too, buddy Let's see
unidentified
What else do we got going on here I
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I and I'll see you next time.
streamlabs matthew tts
It's exactly like that.
It's exactly like that.
nick fuentes
When Trump is being totally lame, they love him.
When Trump is being awesome, oh, then suddenly he's blowing it.
Oh, we don't like to see that.
Oh, he blew it.
They always, that's how they play.
If Fox News hated it, that means it was good.
So yeah, I thought it was great.
I really liked it.
I thought it was, you know, and like I said, it wasn't perfect.
And I hope people can see, because a lot has been said about me in this cycle.
It's been very controversial.
It's really simple.
I want the energy and I want the message of 16.
I want it to be America first.
And the core of that really is immigration.
And deeply related to that also is foreign policy.
But immigration is the big one.
And all I have said from the start is immigration, immigration, immigration.
We don't want the people.
We don't want to bring in legal immigrants or green cards on their diplomas.
We want Nativism.
We want America first.
We want America to be protected from this onslaught of illegals.
I said, and we want Trump to be himself.
He's been so muted and so subdued.
And you can tell that's the people in his ear telling him that that works.
To summarize, I was never a Trump hater.
I never hated Trump.
Deeply frustrated by him, but really being honest about how I felt as a Trump supporter.
As a Trump supporter my entire adult life as someone who's extremely right-wing and would never vote for Democrats or like Kamala Harris.
You know, I've said it from the start, but people go, oh, you know, if you're if you're not on board with everything, you're a hater.
If you're not on board with all this crap.
Oh, well, you're a Democrat.
You know, I hope people can see I've been pretty honest about this.
Well, I've been 100 percent honest.
And objective this entire time.
I started out tonight saying, yeah, I think it's going to be sloppy.
But, you know, Trump has this tendency to pull that out.
It's exactly what happened.
And I'm a simple guy.
Talk about immigration.
And I'm on your side.
Talk about immigration.
And I'm with it.
Be yourself.
Be outrageous.
Don't be a bitch.
Be Trump.
And I love it.
Just like I loved it for 10 years.
And, you know, we can work out the details.
Politics is tough.
It's complicated.
And I'm down for it.
I'm down to support when it's difficult.
But we need to see some commitment That he will follow through on the America First agenda.
And I was down for it in the first administration.
I defended him a lot.
And I'm willing to be fair.
Like when I went on Michael Tracy's show.
I went on Michael Tracy's show a few months ago.
If you watch that, you'd think I'm Trump's cheerleader.
Because I think I'm very fair.
And I'm willing to be fair.
And I understand, like I said, Trump is what he is.
The situation is what it is.
And I'm a grown person.
I get it.
But we just need to see some willingness on Trump's part.
We need to see that that spark is still there.
Is he going to fight?
Is it going to be legit?
And for the past four months, we haven't seen it.
That's when I blew up.
Because it was kind of okay, you know, he was talking about retribution, and it was, you know, it was kind of a mixed bag, but it really just started to blow for the past four or five months.
And tonight, I feel like this is the guy, you know, this is how it should be.
unidentified
So...
nick fuentes
I'm not someone who cannot be pleased.
I'm not somebody who's gonna sit there and say, you know, everything he does is wrong.
Nothing he could do is okay.
No, this is what we want to see.
This is good.
Some of this shit lately, not good.
The presser he did in New Jersey with the groceries, lame.
The Hannibal Lecter stuff, these meandering speeches, lame, weak.
This was good.
This was really good.
Oh, it needs to be like this every time.
So I just want, I want to clear that up because, man, people say a lot of stuff about me and Trump and, you know, how I feel about all that.
But I hope, you know, I have a big audience tonight.
Set the record straight.
I want Trump to succeed, but we, we, uh, the base needs to remind him.
That we need to be listened to as well.
You can't just appease the donors and the middle and the establishment.
There actually needs to be some confidence that you're going to follow through for your base.
You need to demonstrate that.
That's just as important, I would say more important, than signaling to the other side, you know, what they call running to the middle.
It's more important than that.
unidentified
So...
nick fuentes
I just want to clear that up.
unidentified
Let's see.
streamlabs matthew tts
to see a lot of the same I'm sure Lassa Vita and Wiles were shaking their heads tonight, and I'm sure they're going to want to go on damage control.
unidentified
Yep.
nick fuentes
I'm sure they think he overdid it, took the bait, got personal, was too angry.
I'm sure they hated it.
And you know what?
They haven't won elections.
They didn't win in 16.
unidentified
Trump did.
nick fuentes
So you're right.
That's a very good point.
You're 100% right.
They probably hated it.
You know, and Susie Wiles isn't like a terrible person, but she doesn't get it.
Chris LaCivita's a piece of shit.
Susie Wiles is like a nice old grandma.
She's out to lunch.
She don't get it.
It is what it is.
But they don't understand.
And I'm sure they thought he blew it, went way over the top.
Maybe they didn't, but I'm sure that's what they think.
And, uh, you know, but it's a conflict of vision, so you're 100% on the money with that.
And you're right, we have to keep up the pressure.
I'm not relenting, but you know what?
We do need to show some give here.
If Trump does well, we need to say, hey, you know what?
We'll reward that.
The Groypers will say, hey, you're good.
We're not going to back off completely, but, uh, you know, this does change how I feel about him.
This was make or break.
I was totally blackpilled yesterday.
I've been blackpilled.
This was just enough to maybe, maybe some would say to keep me strung along and maybe that's the case.
That's why we can't totally sell and say, all right, we're with Trump again.
I'm not selling just yet, but you know, this was very good.
So, and it's, I certainly consider this, but.
streamlabs matthew tts
yeah that's how I feel Chugga sent $25, even though it was cringe trump saying Kamala
hates Israel and wants it gone did force her to reaffirm her love for Israel which is poison for her base
thanks for covering the debate by the way you make it way better
nick fuentes
hey thank you very much man I appreciate you saying that.
That's the last Super Chat I'm going to read.
If I didn't read yours, I will read them tomorrow.
It's a huge stream.
I don't want to read everything because it's going to be a lot and it's going to be a lot of goofy stuff.
People are going to be trolling me, so we'll save that for a regular show.
But that's going to do it for my coverage of the debate.
I think it was a great night all the way around.
I'm so pleased with it.
Like I said, I've been really kind of Despondent about it.
I've been very angry lately because the country is so bad.
It's slipping through our fingers.
We can see it in real time.
And lately...
The way Trump is running the campaign, it feels like we don't have a voice.
It feels like heads they win, tails we lose.
There's no scenario where Americans are heard.
And I still believe that Trump represents the opportunity for us to make things better, but it's by no means a guarantee.
Because the first term was not everything we wanted.
It fell far short.
And this may be the last chance.
And I think they kind of blew it last time.
And I don't want them to blow it this time.
I don't want them to blow the election.
And if they win, what would be worse, I don't want them to blow a second term.
So out of an abundance of care, but also frustration, we have really tried to stir up some negativity So that Trump will hear us and listen to our concerns and get back to that message and those issues.
Inflation's bad.
The economy's bad.
But you have to see the bigger picture.
The primary problem is that we have no borders.
10 million illegals in four years.
And like Trump said, that's deeply related to inflation and the economy.
So if you're not talking immigration, you're just not talking as far as I'm concerned.
If you're not talking about The invasion of the country, then you're just not talking about politics.
And I don't want to listen to anything else.
So, I've had a lot of negative feelings about this election.
And I felt very bad about how it's been going.
I think they've been doing a horrible job.
And the numbers speak for themselves.
They've been blowing it.
And the energy is not there.
And I think the turnout is a real concern.
But tonight, you know, he did it again.
It's like I said at the top.
It was messy.
It was sloppy.
He was unprepared.
He left a lot on the table.
It wasn't optimal.
But we're reminded why we supported him in the beginning.
And we're also reminded what the conflict of visions really is between him and Kamala.
And so this performance showed that Trump still has a little bit of fight in him, and I think it's worth still engaging.
Don't be disengaged just yet.
I think it's still worth keeping this conversation going and being a part of the legitimate political process, engaging with Trump and the campaign and in politics, in the swing states.
You know, maybe there's still a chance.
And I hope that's not copium.
You know, I'm not trying to cope.
But tonight, when he made it all about immigration, it's like, you know, and then again, he always, I'll be, you know, I'm going to be honest, I'll be a little more critical tomorrow.
But what I feel more than anything is a lot of relief.
It's like, okay, I'm glad to hear at the minimum, this is good that this is being talked about, you know, but what we need is more than just talk.
We need action.
We need policy.
We need action.
We need confidence that they're going to do something about this.
And that's the part that's lacking.
He can still talk a pretty good game.
You know, okay, you bastard, you did it again.
He can talk a good game.
But, over the next couple months, you know, it's really... This is where the rubber meets the road.
unidentified
So...
nick fuentes
You know, good performance.
He did a good job.
I just can't stand Kamala and all this nonsense.
And like I said, I think it was good.
We're gonna need to see a little bit more.
You know, it was good.
But now let's see, now let's do something.
Yeah, good talk, good talk, good rhetoric, good energy, but let's do something about it.
I think he won the debate.
A lot of funny, good moments, viral moments.
You know, when I say funny, I mean, look, it's attention-getting, it's outrageous.
It's what it should be at the debate.
I thought it was a win.
And I hope that Trump continues to campaign this way.
If he does, I think it'll be better for him.
We need a little more there there, though.
So that's my take.
Fun night, big night for the show.
48,000 live viewers, number three stream on Rumble behind their Bungino and Crowder who are invested in this stuff.
I think that's a huge accomplishment.
Bigger than the Tates, Charlie Kirk, Badlands, you know, a lot of the, you know, whatever.
I like the Tates, Charlie Kirk, not so much.
But hey, one of the biggest streams on Rumble.
I think that's a huge accomplishment.
Thanks, everybody, for tuning in.
Thanks for the support.
100,000 subscribers.
Finally, it's a big night.
It's the biggest streaming platform I've ever had.
So, it's all good.
Good night tonight.
But thanks, everybody.
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Special thanks tonight to A$AP Groyper and Al Dente.
But thanks to all our Super Chatters and everybody that watches the show.
We love you.
I will see you tomorrow.
Until then, have a great rest of your evening.
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America first.
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