May 31, 2024 - America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes
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| Yesterday, I think this is the culmination of 10 years of this. | ||
| I think that's maybe the biggest takeaway for guys like yourself, Alex, and certainly for people like me. | ||
| This is the culmination of a very long period of time and basically a systematic witch hunt against the president. | ||
| Every manner, every way, shape, and form that they can come after him, they've done it now. | ||
| And I believe it started with the FISA warrant, which was issued in June 2016, which allowed the Obama administration to spy on Trump Tower and to spy on the campaign. | ||
| Why was Obama never prosecuted for that? | ||
| Well, it's a great question. | ||
| There's no prosecution for Obama, there's no prosecution for Hillary Clinton and all the deleted emails, no prosecution for Hunter Biden and the laptop, and no prosecution for Joe Biden, who's connected to that. | ||
| And that's really the thing is, and I talked to this, I talked to Mario about this in the space the other day. | ||
| We have all these lawyers getting in on this, and they're talking about the tedium and minutiae about this particular case. | ||
| I think a lot of that is a distraction. | ||
| I think to get too into the weeds on these particular cases, it's almost like, what are we even really talking about? | ||
| Yeah, we know it's all fake crap, so my question is, Nick, because you're a smart guy, I respect you, very articulate. | ||
| I don't agree with everything, but I think I agree you're smart. | ||
| What is the deep state going to do? | ||
| Because they're programming white supremacists are going to kill everybody, imminent terror attacks. | ||
| That's not hard to go. | ||
| The signal is they're about to stage something or provocateur something. | ||
| That's all my red lights. | ||
| When I asked Mario that too and Nick, my red lights are like danger, Will Robinson. | ||
| I mean, that's all I'm thinking about. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| It's going to be false flag city, I think, for the rest of the year. | ||
| And we saw this in 2020. | ||
| In 2020, I think everybody knows Trump was sailing towards an easy reelection. | ||
| Economy was great. | ||
| Everything was going well. | ||
| There had been no new wars. | ||
| The border was being secured. | ||
| And then we got COVID. | ||
| We got the biggest pandemic ever, and the economic shutdown, and the BLM, and we got the election fraud. | ||
| And I think it's going to be repeated out in 2024. | ||
| I think you see a mass awakening. | ||
| Free speech is happening on Twitter and Rumble, and I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| This is the playbook every single time. | ||
| It's always some kind of black swan event. | ||
| It's gonna be crisis actors. | ||
| It's gonna be some kind of Patsy, a Christian nationalist, a white nationalist. | ||
| Oh no, they got a messed up schizophrenic ready to go gun down a bunch of blacks in a church right now. | ||
| The FBI's got him in a hotel room right now. | ||
| That's how it plays out every time. | ||
| And few people even remember, I mean, there's so many that have been memory hauled. | ||
| I mean, whatever happened to, do you remember, I believe it was the eve of a very important campaign. | ||
| There was some kind of RV that was detonated in Nashville. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Turned out to be some, I mean, this is just like one, there are dozens of examples like this of actual false flags that were followed through with, some that were aborted. | ||
| Or they were botched and memory hold we never heard about them again. | ||
| So I think people need to be on high alert and this is why it's important for your audience to know this and for people on spaces. | ||
| Be extremely careful about what you do and say between now and the election because the feds are not messing around. | ||
| Deep State is not messing around. | ||
| They take this stuff very seriously. | ||
| They are looking for a patsy to bring the whole Deep State down on to blame for, you know, whatever's coming next. | ||
| So, it's very important. | ||
| All these people are talking, and I saw you said this today on Twitter, Alex, or rather on X. You said it's very important to direct all of our energy And to targeted, precise political action. | ||
| Not violence, not illegal activities, but you want to do something, go out there and engage in politics in a legal, legitimate way. | ||
| And it's like you said earlier, they are Hitler in the bunker thinking that they can win. | ||
| It's hubris, it's arrogance, and the one thing that they can't tolerate Is the kind of thing that we've seen, which is somebody like Trump, methodically and with perseverance, engaging in the system, winning the hearts and minds, and working through the process. | ||
| We're talking about how this is threatening the democracy, it's breaking the system, it's breaking trust in the system. | ||
| But I want to get you to try to, we did it earlier and I'm not sure if you were listening, but try to put your optimistic hat on. | ||
| You know, looking at it from pink colored glasses. | ||
| Because we need that, they want us to be pure negative. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What path could we see over the next few months where things improve from this point onwards? | ||
| You don't have to agree with that view, but I want an optimistic view moving forward. | ||
| My optimistic view is that Donald Trump, just as he has in the past 24 hours, he raised $36 million. | ||
| I think there was one poll, which he talked about in the press conference this morning, that showed that he's up. | ||
| 6% in the polls. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| After the conviction he's up 6%. | ||
| And so I think the optimistic track is that you start to see the country move past this Joe Biden, COVID, Ukraine stuff. | ||
| It seems that all of these All of these false narratives that we have been battered over the head with for the past four years, they're all being dispelled largely because of free speech, largely because a spotlight is being shown on all this. | ||
| And I think so, the optimistic track is that things keep going in the direction that they have been actually for the past couple of years. | ||
| A lot of people don't realize this. | ||
| We're in a better spot now than maybe we've ever have been. | ||
| And I think that's largely due to, and I think you mentioned this earlier, it's people coming together in the global village, it's people coming together on the Social platforms and being able to talk about these things openly. | ||
| Censorship peaked in 2021 and it has started to recede. | ||
| That's something that we never thought was possible. | ||
| I remember doing my show in 2019 and thinking they were eventually going to go for the ISPs and they were going to make it so we couldn't even have websites. | ||
| You know, forget about a Twitter account. | ||
| I was thinking we were going to not be able to have websites or email or anything like that. | ||
| So things actually have been moving in a better direction. | ||
| The important thing is that people stay engaged and they keep pushing. | ||
| The worst thing, and Alex, you're so right about this, this is what they want. | ||
| They want for us to despair. | ||
| They want for us to engage in, you know, what people call blackmailing. | ||
| They want us to be pessimistic. | ||
| Because it's when people despair, that's when people give up. | ||
| And when people take their foot off the gas, or when people start to consider extreme forms of action, or maybe illegitimate forms of action, those are the things that play into their hands. | ||
| So, to me, I'm going to read out one thing while you're speaking, just looking at the polls. | ||
| Less than an hour ago, Axios put out the following. | ||
| I'm going to read it out for you, Nick. | ||
| Get your thoughts on it, and Alex, your thoughts on it as well. | ||
| Trump's historic felony conviction makes half of Republicans even more likely to vote for him, according to a poll and the verdict's immediate aftermath. | ||
| Yeah, and that's even their spin. | ||
| Look, my phone never blew up like it did yesterday, and my parents have a lot of liberal friends, so do I. They're like, we're done, we're going for Trump. | ||
| Nick, sorry, go ahead and answer his question. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| I mean, and this is the hubris of the regime. | ||
| They always overplay their hand. | ||
| You know, after Donald Trump left office, I think that, and you know, whatever you think about the 2020 election, I think it was stolen. | ||
| He left office and I think there was a real crisis where a lot of people are questioning if there was a future for Trump because his first term had been so sabotaged. | ||
| The way he went out was so ignominious and such a disaster and it was really a rigged election and stolen. | ||
| I think a lot of people question Is it over? | ||
| Are we going to have to... Well, that's the thing. | ||
| They want the comeback. | ||
| They see it. | ||
| And look, here's the deal. | ||
| Real power is sitting back knowing human nature and wanting to help people and letting them make decisions and then guiding them. | ||
| The globalists are going against the stream at every level, and people now are figuring that out. | ||
| It's game over. | ||
| They can use their trillions of dollars to have a bunch of mercenaries, like you were saying, Nick. | ||
| But it doesn't work at the end of the day, because people, once they get that are being controlled, it's game over. | ||
| I mean, don't you think? | ||
| Talk about optimism. | ||
| I'm super optimistic, except they want World War III with Russia. | ||
| Nick, can you comment on that? | ||
| I mean, Nick Fuentes or Nick Schwartzworth, I mean, literally, they're like, we're giving heavy weapons, we're going to start bombing Russian cities officially, and we take credit. | ||
| They're like, yeah, Russia, bitch, let's go. | ||
| I mean, this is fucking crazy. | ||
| The whole situation's insane. | ||
| The situation domestically, the situation internationally. | ||
| And it's important to kind of keep an eye on the ball. | ||
| I know that you were talking about this earlier. | ||
| In some ways, this whole election thing and even this particular case, it does take our eyes away from three theaters of war or three critical flashpoints where a potential World War III could break out. | ||
| And as you said, it's the escalation with the use of offensive weapons by Ukraine against Russia in Russian soil. | ||
| It's the presence of 11 Chinese fighter jets in Taiwanese airspace this morning. | ||
| Then it's the situation with Israel and this broader conflict in the Middle East where, you know, all eyes are now on Rafa and this recent massacre that was committed this past weekend. | ||
| So, you know, it is very important. | ||
| Yes, we have to be optimistic. | ||
| Yes, I think we shouldn't give in to despair. | ||
| But it also doesn't mean that we underestimate the severity of the crisis that we're in. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Admitting the severity is what makes us rise in the challenge to stop it. | ||
| In closing, you guys got to go. | ||
| I wish you'd be here for 10 hours. | ||
| I'm doing a special show tomorrow, by the way, if you guys want to come back. | ||
| Eddie Bravo is coming up, too. | ||
| Stay there. | ||
| Nick Fuentes, you're going to have the floor when we come back. | ||
| I moved some guests. | ||
| You're here. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| But Nick Sortor, Mario Nafal, closing comments, and I hope to have you back soon in the studio. | ||
| Yeah, look, my comments are very simple and very straight to the point. | ||
| I'm not sure what's going to happen next. | ||
| We do have a very serious risk of a world war between the West and Russia. | ||
| It's very serious. | ||
| We've got obviously the risks of AI, which no one's talking about now, which Alex, you're starting to talk more and more about, which I think you should. | ||
| And we've got what's happening in Taiwan. | ||
| And now we're going to add to it is that we've got the world's biggest democracy, the leaders of the democratic world, The system is breaking in front of our eyes. | ||
| Whether you're on the left or on the right, it doesn't matter, even if you're voting for Biden. | ||
| You gotta agree it's breaking. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, the trust in mainstream media is dying, trust in the legal system is dying, and if this continues, it doesn't matter who is president in this year, in four years' time, in eight years' time, it's only gonna get worse and it's gonna hurt both sides of the aisle. | ||
| So this needs to stop. | ||
| It's sectarian war. | ||
| I'll try not to use the word civil wars, but we're getting... It's now become... It's no longer fear-mongering to warn of a civil war if we continue going down this path. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We only got 20 seconds left, Mario. | ||
| Mario's done. | ||
| Nick? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, clearly, I don't think we would be seeing this backfiring as bad as it is for the Democrats if we were back in 2020. | ||
| Nick Fuentes made a fantastic point on that. | ||
| The free dissemination of information now has really, genuinely changed the world. | ||
| I mean, because I got banned off of Facebook back in 2020. | ||
| No, it's Elon Musk. | ||
| People not giving Elon a love are... | ||
| Fuck them! | ||
| Elon Musk! | ||
| Alright, Nick Fuentes coming back. | ||
| You guys gotta go. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Stay with us, folks. | ||
| We'll be right back with Nick Fuentes. | ||
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| So here's where we talked about the last time that we were on the show together. | ||
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| Not interested? | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry, Brittany and Betsy, but I just can't do it. | ||
| You're an e-girl, you know the rule. | ||
| No e-girls. | ||
| Who's got the clip? | ||
| No e-girls. | ||
| Never! | ||
| Hashtag never e-girls. | ||
| Not even once. | ||
| I've never heard of things, what is that? | ||
| From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones. | ||
| So, if people ask what my political alignment is, it's life. | ||
| Life for babies, life for adults, life for old people. | ||
| Not having World War III, having capitalism, having prosperity, having freedom. | ||
| I'm a big tit guy. | ||
| I love everybody. | ||
| I'm a big teddy bear. | ||
| Let's try to start World War III. | ||
| And I don't want to keep harping on this because I'm kind of a history buff on war, and I know the threat continuation ladder. | ||
| When you start publicly saying elbows Christmas, we've been firing at you. | ||
| Into Russia. | ||
| We did that and you bet we're doing it and we're about to do it 100 times worse. | ||
| That goes to World War three. | ||
| It's guaranteed. | ||
| It's not like, Oh, there's a chance this is the most psychotic craziness. | ||
| The average person is watching television and movies having no idea like Russia's a million miles away. | ||
| No folks, it's 8000 miles away from where I sit. | ||
| So Nick, You've been speaking about this, talking about this, and it ties into Trump. | ||
| It ties into the fake conviction, where this is all going. | ||
| I'm just going to give you the floor here, because you're an interesting guy, to give us your view on everything. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, with regard to this recent development with Russia, this is something that we've been heading towards for a long time. | ||
| The latest development, of course, is that the European countries, and as you said earlier, this is something that they had actually already been doing privately, but has now become public, which is that they've authorized Ukraine to start launching missiles into Russia, using NATO Western weapons to bomb Russians in Russia, on Russian soil. | ||
| And now, The latest in the past couple days is that the Biden administration has authorized Ukraine to use American weapons against Russia, although Biden has said they're limiting that only to particular cities in Russia. | ||
| It really is immaterial and doesn't matter. | ||
| This is a full-fledged war with Russia. | ||
| And as you said, it's been a gradual escalation over the past two years, started February 2022. | ||
| We really entered the picture. | ||
| Well, I mean, realistically, it's been going on since 2014. | ||
| And we have been giving aid to Ukraine, the government in Kiev, in their war, the secession war against the Donbass throughout that entire time, that eight-year interregnum period. | ||
| Trump escalated by providing lethal aid, redeploying medium-range ballistic missiles. | ||
| And over the past two years, it has been a steady escalation and a march towards war. | ||
| And the question is, at what point did the decision-makers in Washington, D.C. | ||
| say that Ukraine is not worth World War III. | ||
| And specifically, the accession of Ukraine to NATO is not worth World War III. | ||
| And maybe another related question is, what is a reasonable sphere of influence and a reasonable self-interest or foreign policy for the government in Moscow and in Beijing to exercise? | ||
| Does Russia get to influence the affairs of Belarus and Ukraine? | ||
| Or are we going to deploy NATO missiles right up 100, 200 kilometers from their capital. | ||
| And the same is true of China, are we? | ||
| It's all insane provocation, and then they speak on average to an ignorant American population. | ||
| I love Americans, but on average they're very ignorant about weapons geopolitics. | ||
| I mean, again, what would we do if Russia, because it's not just one country, as you said it's a bunch, what if Russia stuck missiles in Canada and in Mexico and overthrew the governments that was running them? | ||
| I mean, we would go completely ape! | ||
| That's precisely correct. | ||
| And, you know, we've had this for 200 years. | ||
| It's called the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| The Monroe Doctrine says that the United States controls everything on this half of the planet. | ||
| So if you want to go into two continents, like South or North America, you got to deal with us. | ||
| You got to go through the United States. | ||
| We want to put missiles and military bases in Ukraine, which is historically part of Russia. | ||
| And even if you acknowledge their sovereignty, which is really, you know, kind of a technicality as a result of how the Soviet Union divided up the economy... Yeah, Lenin gave it up for a thousand years it was Russia. | ||
| Ukraine literally gave birth to Russia, so Russia's mama is Ukraine. | ||
| This is like saying, is New York City part of America? | ||
| That's only 250 years old. | ||
| This is, like you said, literally the motherland. | ||
| Exactly, and it's not like we're saying we want Ukraine to be a democracy. | ||
| It was. | ||
| It's not like we're saying we want Ukraine to have freedom. | ||
| It had a relative degree of freedom. | ||
| We want to put missiles that are capable of striking Moscow inside Ukraine, on their border, in their historic territory, which is something that is totally unacceptable. | ||
| Putin has said over and over it's unacceptable. | ||
| Now, you don't say they're going to hit them with it. | ||
| They're going to hit them with the missiles. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And Zelensky, as recently as February 22, was saying that he was going to pursue a nuclear arsenal, which is tied up with the Budapest Memorial. | ||
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| You're hinting at the fact you're going to move nukes into Ukraine, not just hit it with conventional. | ||
| Well, that's right, because Ukraine, of course, had the nuclear stockpile from the Soviet Union after 1991, and one of the conditions of Ukraine transferring the nukes to Russia was that the West would guarantee Ukraine safety. | ||
| So, Zelensky said, hey, if the Donbass is breaking away, then I guess we get to have nukes, don't we? | ||
| You can't play around with rhetoric like that. | ||
| You can't play around with rhetoric, certainly not when Ukraine is seeking accession into NATO. | ||
| You can't play around with having nukes in a country that's at war with Russia. | ||
| You know, this is—point being, it's extremely reckless, as you said. | ||
| It's extremely provocative. | ||
| It's something that's totally outrageous, I think, to any reasonable or sensible person. | ||
| And I think the larger point is that this is not the only theater of conflict. | ||
| As you said earlier, because like, you know, like myself, you're into geopolitics. | ||
| You see the big picture. | ||
| You've got North Korea launching missiles at Japan. | ||
| You've got Chinese fighter jets in Taiwanese airspace. | ||
| You've got Venezuela threatening to take the Essequibo region from Guyana, where they recently discovered energy resources. | ||
| You've got basically a new Cold War in Latin America. | ||
| You've got a broader conflagration in the Middle East that involves no fewer than five or six countries. | ||
| And you have a civil war in West Africa between France and Russia. | ||
| And, you know, one other one, two others I'm not thinking of, you've got Kosovo and Serbia and Azerbaijan and Armenia. | ||
| And you've got Israel literally bombing refugee camps on purpose trying to make the Arab world attack them so they can be the victim. | ||
| I think that's clear. | ||
| You know me, I don't hate Israel, but I'm starting to hate their leaders bad because they're openly trying to get a giant Arab attack to play victim so they can nuke Iran. | ||
| This is biblical insanity. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And we just saw that in Rafah the past week. | ||
| As you said, in West Rafah, they bombed the refugee camp. | ||
| They bombed these tents. | ||
| Absolutely abominable. | ||
| You don't do that by accident. | ||
| You bomb the main refugee camp. | ||
| You make a move eight times, and now they're all in a refugee camp. | ||
| Oh, we missed with our missiles. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think anybody's buying this one anymore. | ||
| They've been doing that for all this time. | ||
| That's the final bombing to move them onto the ships. | ||
| It's like they just herd them towards the ship. | ||
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| Well, yeah, it's not hard to see what they're doing at all. | ||
| I mean, they go in the north, push them south. | ||
| Then they move into the south, they push them west. | ||
| They push them towards where? | ||
| The Mediterranean Sea, where they got nowhere to go. | ||
| And that's exactly right. | ||
| Stage two is they're going to load them up onto ships, and they're going to be brought here to America. | ||
| There were two Israeli politicians for the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| They said, well, we don't want the Palestinians, but Americans should take them in. | ||
| Americans and Europeans better be taking the Palestinian refugees. | ||
| Well, if these people are such winners, you know, why don't you want them living next to your country? | ||
| They gotta come live over here? | ||
| But that's precisely what they're doing, and all you got to do to see the evidence is look at a map. | ||
| Look at a map and look at where the Israeli campaign has been pushing these people around, and you're displaying it right now. | ||
| They got pushed from north to south, now from east to west. | ||
| They're going to be herded up, they're going to be put on ships. | ||
| These people blame the United States, and to some extent I think they are correct, because we're supplying the munitions and bombs to conduct the campaign. | ||
| And they're going to come and be in your school system, in your neighborhood. | ||
| They're going to be your place of business, in your city. | ||
| We don't want these people. | ||
| We don't need these people. | ||
| Israel is literally shitting on us with this. | ||
| Quite literally dumping their problems, a steaming pile of their problems into our country. | ||
| And we're paying for it. | ||
| We're giving them the support to do it. | ||
| And as you said, you don't hate anybody. | ||
| I don't hate anybody. | ||
| We love everybody. | ||
| It is a big tent movement. | ||
| We want nationalism. | ||
| But this is an abuse. | ||
| This is an abuse of our country. | ||
| I don't think any reasonable person could say that this is in America's interest or America first. | ||
| It's totally contradictory and hypocritical. | ||
| But this is just one theater. | ||
| It's a very significant one, but one theater and now a global conflict. | ||
| And I think we talked about this last time. | ||
| This is setting the stage for the same kind of global intercontinental conflict. | ||
| That's where I was going next. | ||
| Let me interrupt for a minute because you're going there. | ||
| So let me go back to Russia for a minute. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Russians in World War II lost 26 million people. | ||
| The Germans lost 24 million. | ||
| 95% of the war was between them. | ||
| My grandfathers were both in it. | ||
| I'm not saying America didn't lose 600,000. | ||
| The Brits and all that was terrible, but compared to it, it was like, it was a paper cut. | ||
| Looking at this, bombing Russians will not make them bow down and give up. | ||
| They will make them even more aggressive. | ||
| It's guaranteed. | ||
| Like, they welcomed Hitler as a savior because they didn't like the communists, and then they started killing the Russians for no reason, so the Russians went completely ape. | ||
| The Russians are, like, pissed at Putin. | ||
| He's not nuking right now. | ||
| So they're ready for full war and the West is going, let's bomb them. | ||
| That'll make them give up. | ||
| They know they're not stupid. | ||
| Stoltenberg's not dumb. | ||
| So why would they want a full nuclear war with Russia? | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| Well, that's that classic hubris. | ||
| The West. | ||
| They don't know how to do anything other than double down. | ||
| These leaders in Washington, whenever there's a problem, whenever anybody stands up to the West, it's always double down. | ||
| And they're a bunch of lawyers, not even military leaders now. | ||
| They're all sitting in rooms acting tough. | ||
| Well, let's just bomb the Russians. | ||
| Yeah, that'll show them. | ||
| Oh yeah, that'll really show the Russians, folks. | ||
| 90% of the Brits were anti-war It is. | ||
| until Churchill bombed German cities to manipulate Hitler to bomb British cities, and they went 99% pro-war. | ||
| I mean, so I'm asking the question. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It's arrogance. | ||
| It's insanity. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's that classic hubris. | ||
| And this is because Washington has been totally uncontested and unchallenged for 30 years. | ||
| Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, and even a little bit before that, there has been this idea that America is invincible. | ||
| And this is a very dangerous idea because when you know that you can die and get hurt, you approach things cautiously. | ||
| And you look at your challengers, you look at the competition, and you sort of estimate their willingness to fight and the level of threat that they pose in a reasonable way. | ||
| When you believe that you're invincible and you believe that you can do anything, this is what gives rise to these kinds of awful decisions like, we're going to go into Iraq and turn it into a democracy, and we're going to go to Afghanistan and turn it into a democracy, and we're going to go into Ukraine and we're going to destroy Russia and do regime change in Russia, and then we're going to beat China for dessert. | ||
| It's like, You know, it's not 1991 anymore. | ||
| China's back. | ||
| Russia's back. | ||
| It's a multipolar world. | ||
| And they've got giant armies and nuclear weapons and we'll go to war. | ||
| I mean, my God, Korea, the Chai Koms didn't have nukes then and they were kicking our ass. | ||
| I mean, we had to threaten to use nukes for them to back off. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It's totally insane. | ||
| And they have industry. | ||
| They build things. | ||
| The Russian economy is going to grow 3% this year. | ||
| The economy of Germany is going to contract. | ||
| Germany is like one of the only countries in the West that makes things. | ||
| Their industry has been destroyed because the pipelines were taken down and they have no more cheap energy, no more cheap natural gas. | ||
| Russia makes things. | ||
| China makes things. | ||
| They make ships. | ||
| They make missiles. | ||
| They make a military. | ||
| The United States is still living in this World War II LARP. | ||
| Well, that's right. | ||
| Russia is outproducing all NATO countries 3 to 1 with artillery shells. | ||
| That shows it's a joke, really. | ||
| We're not making missiles. | ||
| We're not making ships. | ||
| We're not even making kids. | ||
| And the kids we are making are all gay. | ||
| I mean, not to be insulting. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| They just cut the submarine order in half. | ||
| China just tripled their submarine order. | ||
| Go back to the – exactly. | ||
| Why would an empire weaken its own people when it wants to take on the Chai Koms and the Russians? | ||
| Well, and I think that's part of why they're trying to build up our strength a little bit. | ||
| I think that's why there is, like right now, a big push against DEI. | ||
| I don't know if you've seen that lately. | ||
| I did, yeah. | ||
| A lot of the elites, they're coming out against diversity, equity, and inclusion. | ||
| I think it's because there is kind of this recognition, although it is begrudging and, I think, reluctant. | ||
| I think there is this recognition that DEI has gone so far, it's now actually impacting their ability to go to war with Russia. | ||
| Well, the Pentagon admits it. | ||
| They go, okay, white men, we said you were evil, gave you poison shots, you left. | ||
| For whatever reason, we need the white men to come back and kill the Russians. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, and a lot of people made this joke. | ||
| They said, now that we're at war with Ukraine, now that we're effectively at war with Iran, you start to see all these advertisements for the military, and now these advertisements actually have white guys. | ||
| When we weren't at war, all the advertisements were like a black woman and a computer, because they weren't serious. | ||
| Now that they need the recruitment, oh, now it's a Call of Duty Michael Bay advertisement for the military, because now we need the good old boys to jump back in the military and die for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and Boeing and everything. | ||
| So it's very typical. | ||
| It's very classic. | ||
| And it's like you said a moment ago, this is the system breaking up. | ||
| It is breaking up. | ||
| It is failing. | ||
| You know, what cannot go on will not go on. | ||
| I mean, you just do it's like a math problem. | ||
| If Russia is outproducing artillery 3 to 1, if China is outproducing ships 10 to 1, if they're having kids and we're not, if their population is 10 times bigger, something has got to give. | ||
| And that's before you get into, there's so many different numbers like the debt, you could get into the inflation, stagflation situation. | ||
| Eventually this thing will not go on. | ||
| And that is good news, but, and it's sort of like we talked about with Mario a moment ago, the threat is absolutely enormous. | ||
| It cannot be overstated, the peril that we're in. | ||
| At the same time, there is a huge opportunity for us to turn things around. | ||
| So Zimbardo asked you the question, exactly, so real optimism Political correctness is dying. | ||
| People know they're in danger. | ||
| Women get they're in danger. | ||
| People have that danger gene. | ||
| They're like, whoa, okay, this is not good. | ||
| How do we get the establishment to stand down and realize they've lost? | ||
| They can still keep all their stolen money. | ||
| They can creep around. | ||
| I want to put them on an island like Napoleon. | ||
| How do we get them to realize they've already lost without blowing the planet up? | ||
| Because that's where they're going. | ||
| Well, I think we need to keep pushing through 2024. | ||
| And I think we need people really to get engaged in politics. | ||
| That is the number one thing that they fear. | ||
| They don't like when people talk. | ||
| They like it a lot less when people get organized. | ||
| I think that's a huge reason why they came after all the January Sixers. | ||
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Because, I mean, what was... It was a pure outlawing of conservative populist politics. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| It was an attempt to intimidate everybody. | ||
| Well, because Stop the Steal and everything that was going on back then was grassroots organization. | ||
| And, you know, of course we disavow the law-breaking and violence and vandalism and things like that. | ||
| But that was 95% provocateur! | ||
| Precisely. | ||
| And that was a very, very tiny number of, it was half a million people that were there in Washington, D.C. | ||
| They were using that as a pretext, basically, to go after all conservative organizers and influencers, anybody that was pro-Trump. | ||
| Because it wasn't the GOP that was trying to prevent the steal. | ||
| The GOP wanted the steal to go on. | ||
| They effectively made a deal. | ||
| I mean, you know, not to get too into the weeds on that. | ||
| No, they did. | ||
| The Republican establishment stabbed Trump in the back. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| And so the January 6th thing, and everything that happened since, including the censorship, including, you know, that dragnet everybody got caught up in, it was about disabling and paralyzing any kind of activism. | ||
| And that is the thing that they don't want people to do. | ||
| They want people to, you know, watch the show, buy the shirt, back to the regularly scheduled programming. | ||
| They do not want people to get involved. | ||
| That's why they called the school board parents. | ||
| Terrorists. | ||
| That's why they arrested the January Sixers. | ||
| And fundamentally, that is why they're going after Trump. | ||
| I mean, to kind of bring it back full circle into the conviction, their big punishment against Trump is also meant to chill the entire right wing. | ||
| This is as clear of an example as they can give. | ||
| It's just like with Jesus, in a sense. | ||
| I know people don't love that comparison. | ||
| It's not to say that Trump is Jesus or God. | ||
| But it is a comparison. | ||
| The persecution, people see it. | ||
| It's classic. | ||
| Well, we'll write it, and they hoist him up for everybody to see in this ignominious way to say, this is what happens when you mess with us. | ||
| If you mess with us, we will nail you to the cross in a brutal and painful way. | ||
| We will destroy your reputation, your business, your family will come after your friends, your fortune. | ||
| We will destroy you. | ||
| And the intention, it is to disable Trump, but it is also to chill the entire right wing. | ||
| Oh, it's totally, it's totally a message. | ||
| And I think you, you and I, I don't have to say this because you're here with me, it's true. | ||
| It goes, the most censored Trump, Nick Fuentes, Alex Jones, in no particular order, but Trump on a bigger scale, because they're so scared, because they can't control him. | ||
| It doesn't mean he's perfect, or you're perfect, or I am. | ||
| The fact is, these are men that they don't meet with, that they don't tell to do. | ||
| Believe me, they've tried with me, I'm sure they have with you. | ||
| The fact that we're our own people and make our own decisions. | ||
| They're scared of that, and the more they persecute us, the more successful we get. | ||
| You're an example. | ||
| I'm an example. | ||
| And now they want to shut down in fours the next month or two, and they think that is going to that. | ||
| I mean, I love the crew will be. | ||
| I got a new probably have to work under somebody else. | ||
| Try to bring him back. | ||
| It'll be. | ||
| It'll be a lot of extra work, but it only makes us bigger. | ||
| And I'm I can look at that and no. | ||
| That's how the world works, but they only think one-dimensional. | ||
| It's very bizarre. | ||
| This is not the elite that took over the world. | ||
| This is not the grandfathers and mothers of the current elite. | ||
| They've been handed things, and they're just going around smoking crack cocaine and stuff. | ||
| They have no idea that they're only making it stronger. | ||
| And I paradoxically look at it and I go, how are they so dumb? | ||
| Yeah, well, it's as you say, these are not excellent people, you know, and you're absolutely right. | ||
| A hundred years ago, the elites that built the modern world were geniuses. | ||
| They were extremely intelligent. | ||
| They came from a different society. | ||
| I don't think we have a society that can even produce people on that level. | ||
| And you always, I love that you always talk about this, the genius of the founding fathers that came from a societal milieu. | ||
| You know, that was probably the greatest collection of political thinkers in thousands of years of world history, maybe not since ancient Greece. | ||
| And it was produced by a society. | ||
| They were planted in the soil of that society. | ||
| We don't have that anymore. | ||
| It's like the real soil now. | ||
| You know, you grow vegetables now, they don't have minerals and vitamins anymore. | ||
| It's like the same thing with our society. | ||
| And the way they treat this, they don't treat this like chess, which is to say in chess, you have to look at action and reaction. | ||
| You have to think about your move, but also the opponent's move, and then what you might do as a counter to that move, and so on. | ||
| And so, as you say, they can persecute Trump, but then Trump gets a move. | ||
| You know, Trump has a turn. | ||
| He gets a card that he gets to play. | ||
| And the same is true with you. | ||
| They censor you, they did this ridiculous lawsuit against you, but you get a hand to play too. | ||
| They cancelled me in a similar way. | ||
| I have a hand to play as well. | ||
| And so did they think that by banning us from Twitter that we were going to disappear from Earth? | ||
| Like, if you block the Twitter account that you and I, and more importantly, the people that follow us, do millions of people just vaporize overnight? | ||
| Or do they say, huh, okay, do they shrug their shoulders and say, oh, Alex Jones got banned. | ||
| Yeah, they don't get taking us away from them makes our fans who are great people want us more. | ||
| They're not playing chess. | ||
| They're not even playing checkers. | ||
| It just makes them angry. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It just makes you and I more determined. | ||
| It just makes our followers more angry. | ||
| And it's like with Trump. | ||
| He got all these charges. | ||
| What happens the next day? | ||
| Raises $36 million. | ||
| Action. | ||
| Reaction. | ||
| And the thing is, but that goes back to the hubris. | ||
| They really believe that they are God. | ||
| If you challenge them, then you will be smited. | ||
| You're banned from Twitter. | ||
| We will charge you. | ||
| And they don't, on some level, really reckon with the threat that's posed by any of the situation, whether it be Russia, whether it be, I think, the strident anti-Israel sentiment right now, people like you and I, or people like Donald Trump. | ||
| They just don't reckon with anything. | ||
| Well, let's talk about Israel because I do see Israel as another corrupt country, corrupt elite. | ||
| But they are particularly trying to get the Arabs to attack. | ||
| They're trying to goad people. | ||
| It's a big piece of this. | ||
| So what do you think is going on with Netanyahu? | ||
| Because I think he miscalculated. | ||
| I mean, he's... Israel has really screwed up. | ||
| I totally agree. | ||
| I think that Netanyahu probably had prior knowledge of the October 7th attack. | ||
| He let it happen. | ||
| And I think he let it happen so that he could, which was his dream, his ambition, annex Gaza. | ||
| And I think that that would keep him in power because he's facing a prosecution on popularity. | ||
| I'm sure he thought that taking Gaza would extend his rule, increase his popularity. | ||
| By the way, he said that. | ||
| He said, once the war is over, we'll go back to me. | ||
| But now he says the war never ends. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then the war is going to go and expand to Lebanon, and it's supposed to expand to Iran, and it's Palpatine. | ||
| You know, this is Star Wars 3. | ||
| It's supposed to be this never-ending power grab. | ||
| But you're right. | ||
| I mean, it's not working. | ||
| The regime is destabilizing. | ||
| Israel, like him or not, they have ostracized themselves from the world. | ||
| They have become a pariah state under Netanyahu's leadership. | ||
| It's a crisis within the Jewish community. | ||
| I mean, even many of the Jewish leadership are saying this. | ||
| And now they're talking about holding snap elections. | ||
| Against Netanyahu to remove him from power. | ||
| So I think you're totally right. | ||
| The damage that this has done to Israel, it's incalculable. | ||
| And I think it'll take a generation to reverse. | ||
| I don't even know where they go from here. | ||
| And it's a mirror, though, of the other Western elite committing seppuku as well, suicide. | ||
| And they're all just, whatever the worst move is, they can, it's like a psychopath. | ||
| They kill people at first in criminology. | ||
| And as they don't get caught, they start sending letters to the police. | ||
| They start getting more reckless. | ||
| They want to be caught. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| It's this weird, like, self-destructive impulse or something. | ||
| And it's almost like they just don't know how to turn it off. | ||
| They start to do these things, and, you know, they have these kinds of tactics in place, and I think they just don't even know how to act like normal politicians. | ||
| Because doubling down works when people are asleep. | ||
| It doesn't work when they're awake. | ||
| Right, and when you have activated a resistance. | ||
| They have a real resistance, I think, in the world against Israel, I think in the United States against this regime. | ||
| And as I said, they have not reckoned with the severity of that threat to their rule, or I would even say the conditions that are now going on. | ||
| All right, Nick, do five more minutes. | ||
| We appreciate you, and we got Eddie Bravo coming up. | ||
| But before we go to break, do five more minutes. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| Rumble.com slash Nick J. Fuentes, Monday through Friday. | ||
| And on X? | ||
| And yes, I'm on X at Nick J. Fuentes, recently unbanned. | ||
| All right, so we're going to come back. | ||
| I've got a few final questions, and then I'm going to hit some news, and then Eddie Bravo's coming in here. | ||
| Can't wait to talk to Eddie. | ||
| All right, we'll be right back. | ||
| Hour number four. | ||
| Straight ahead. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| Well, thank you, Alex. | ||
| It's great to be with you again here, and I guess I'll take it away here. | ||
| Obviously, it's been a historic 24 hours with Donald Trump receiving the conviction on 34 charges in Manhattan. | ||
| We've got five minutes left. | ||
| Nick, you've got closing comments to tie all this together. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, thank you, Alex. | ||
| It's great to be with you again here, and I guess I'll take it away here. | ||
| Obviously, it's been an historic 24 hours with Donald Trump receiving the conviction on 34 charges in Manhattan. | ||
| I guess I would say in closing, the biggest takeaway from all of this to me, maybe more than anything that we've talked about yet, I think everybody recognizes the severity of the situation we're in. | ||
| People see it's a crisis domestically inside the United States. | ||
| They see the crisis with inflation, with economic growth, with the debt. | ||
| They see it with the border. | ||
| I mean, you don't need me to tell you. | ||
| I think everybody recognizes the country is in a state of serious decline. | ||
| I think people also recognize the peril abroad. | ||
| As we talked about, you can take your pick at over a dozen flashpoints for conflict in the entire world. | ||
| It's anybody's guess which one is going to blow up and initiate World War III, but everyone sees that we're heading in that direction. | ||
| But I would draw everybody's attention to One particular thing, which I don't think I see a lot of people talking about, or at least they're not talking about enough, And that is the fact that when Joe Biden took power after January 6th in 2021, he wielded the power. | ||
| Joe Biden illegitimately seized power with these fake mail-in ballots, and it didn't take him long to go to work. | ||
| And the first thing he did, unlike a lot of the things that he promised to do, it had nothing to do with his ideology, it had nothing to do with liberalism or leftism. | ||
| The first thing, I would say even before he took office, is that his Department of Justice started to round up Every single person that breached the Capitol on January 6th. | ||
| They appointed a thousand judges, 10,000 FBI agents. | ||
| And they went around, they went to the Bank of America Records, they went to social media platforms and subpoenaed direct messages, group chats, private messages, you name it. | ||
| And they went and they started the largest investigation in the history of the Department of Justice to get as many of these people in jail as possible. | ||
| To date, they've arrested and charged over 1,500 people. | ||
| And then, not soon after, the Department of Justice and jurisdictions across the country And plaintiffs in civil suits began working on a number of cases, criminal cases, civil cases, against the former president. | ||
| And, of course, the four major indictments are the ones in Fulton County and Manhattan, the two DOJ charges, which include January 6th in the classified documents. | ||
| It's the civil rape case in New York and the related defamation case. | ||
| In a word, Joe Biden used his power to punish his political enemies. | ||
| The Democrats, the left, I mean, he's clearly not in power, but the regime, they forked over back the power and they began to use it to target their political opponents. | ||
| To me, this is a striking contrast with Donald Trump, who took office in 2016 and infamously declined to prosecute Hillary Clinton. | ||
| He said he would appoint a special counsel. | ||
| He said he was going to look into Hillary Clinton and put her in jail. | ||
| He won the election and dropped it. | ||
| Dropped the case against Clinton, dropped the case against Obama, and he thought that he could go to work on taxes and just sort of ignore the political condition under which he was elected. | ||
| And so I would say the main thing that Republicans need to rethink about their approach in 2024 is we have to engage in politics. | ||
| It's not enough to lower the taxes. | ||
| It's not enough to pass, you know, whatever bill, repeal Obamacare, this and that. | ||
| Republicans have got to get serious about governing. | ||
| They need to learn about governing. | ||
| They need to learn about statecraft. | ||
| And the one thing that Trump can do, the one thing that will have, I think, an impact that will stretch far beyond his one or two terms in office is to fire as many federal employees as possible. | ||
| And then, once empowered, patriots need to use that influence to fix the elections so that they are free and fair, and free people on social media so that we can ensure that we have a platform in the future to spread our message. | ||
| I think that's the most impactful political thing that Trump can do. | ||
| As far as I'm concerned, it's the only thing that matters. | ||
| We see what happens when we don't take politics seriously. | ||
| Trump went in, changed a lot of things. | ||
| Joe Biden came back, changed him right back. | ||
| The only thing that we can do is to disable the opposition. | ||
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I agree. | |
| Nick Fuentes, thank you so much. | ||
| Join us again soon. | ||
| Nick Fuentes, we'll talk to you soon. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right, Eddie Bravo and crew straight ahead. | ||
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