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Exposing the Campus Protest Movement with Alex Jones

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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I barely made it the show.
		We're there at the hospital.
		He died last night, like seven o'clock.
		Not complaining.
		He's gone on to the next level.
		Passed over to the other side, but I'm still here today.
		This morning calls me like 5 a.m.
		I'm already up.
		Says, Hey, I can't come.
		I got an emergency.
		I totally understand.
		We're gonna do a huge spaces with the Mario in the fall tonight.
		We're gonna have to cancel that because he's got stuff, major stuff he's got to deal with, and I understand that.
		All right.
		I don't want to have a tit for tat thing like we had a year and a half ago when Kanye West was here.
		I didn't know that was going to happen.
		I want to have a real discussion about issues in the whole world.
		And now here we are with The richest man in the world on paper, Elon Musk, a true maverick by any yardstick.
		You can say, oh, he didn't really do those giant rockets at half the cost of NASA.
		He didn't really.
		Yeah, he did all that.
		And now he's brought free speech back to a great extent to X compared to other platforms.
		He said, Hey, I'm putting Nick J. Fuentes back on.
		That's exploded on the top trends last four days.
		I did a spaces with him that reached millions and millions of people a few days ago.
		So here we are.
		But I was impressed, and I'll be completely honest about this.
		I was very impressed, and it was my daughter's seventh birthday, so I could only do an hour.
		I had to leave.
		People thought, oh, you're mad at Nick.
		You left in an hour.
		No, I could only do an hour.
		Very great points Nick made.
		Excellent points that Nick Sordor made, that Mario Nafal made, that the guests made.
		I kind of want to repeat that and just cover a bunch of other big issues here instead of debating The third right and things like that, and I'm happy to go there.
		There's been no pre interview here.
		There's been no.
		I said, You got any questions or things you want to cover?
		You know, send them to me.
		So so that's where we are.
		But the Nick point as I liked and I'm not putting it down was the guy I knew five years ago that exploded from nowhere.
		It was America first and things I agree with and is really doing great talk shows as a very young man, knowing you matured even better and better.
		And then when the interview happened, I said, cover whatever you want to go.
		Don't worry.
		It wasn't Nick.
		It was other folks with him.
		Oh, he wants to come in and apologize for what he said.
		I said, well, I don't even want that.
		I just want to cover all the other issues.
		We can spend some of the time on the stuff he wants to cover.
		But I have some questions.
		None of that happened.
		It was mainly press on the nerve of who's the most hardcore, who's the most real, who's the most wild.
		And we can do that today, but I really don't want to do it.
		I want to talk about Transhumanism, globalism, the open borders, the depopulation, the future of the world, censorship, ministers in Europe being arrested for free speech, what Trudeau is pushing.
		To me, all of that is pertinent because I want a big tent to get everybody to agree on we agree on free speech and private property and God and basic liberties.
		But that said, Nick Fuentes, I appreciate you coming on.
		And I want to give you the floor because I've no idea where you're going to go for the next 10 minutes.
		You've got the floor here to talk about this experience, what it's like.
		I've been through the same stuff you've been through.
		Few people have.
		It's quite the elite club, quite the painful club.
		And then you're welcome to go wherever you want.
		I've got a lot of questions and angles I don't.
	I mean, I watch your show maybe once a week when I can.
	I watch the clips every day.
	And so maybe I always get accused of not covering something, and I actually have covered it.
	People just didn't see me cover it.
	So I've got a lot of stuff that I actually am intrigued that you're a smart guy.
	I want to hear your view on things, and you can ask me questions as well.
	So Nick Fuentes, people can find you now at NickJFuentes on X. NicholasJFuentes.com.
	You do your own daily show.
	Thanks for being here, Nick.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Alex.
		Thank you for having me.
		It's great to be with you.
		And it's been great to be back on X. As you said, we did a space this weekend.
		It's already at, I think, two million plus views.
		And just talking about the censorship regime and what you and I have both been put through.
		We've had a very similar experience of kind of the hero's journey.
		We were sent to hell in the land of censorship, banned from everything.
		And it's been pretty incredible in just the last three years.
		There's been this free speech beachhead established on the internet by Rumble and now by Elon Musk with his acquisition of Twitter.
		So we both made it out of the underworld.
		You first and then me a little bit later.
		And to kind of recap some of the things that we talked about this weekend, I think the broad agreement that we have, although I know we don't agree on everything, Is that the number one central issue is free speech on the Internet.
		And like you said, we diverged at some point along the way, but I think you and I have always agreed that you cannot have a right wing, you cannot have a pro-freedom, pro-human, pro-American movement if we don't have access to the platforms.
		And I think something that people don't realize is how tenuous that is.
unidentified		This is.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		There was a very short window of time at the beginning of the last decade, I would say roughly between 2013 to 2016, when social media really became activated.
		This, I would say, is a specific singularity in the history of technological development when people had all gotten smartphones and social media.
		It's the hottest medium that has ever existed in the history of mankind for the first time, unlike even before when people had internet and computers.
		For the first time, roughly in that period, in the middle of the last decade, everybody was connected to everybody else on social media at all times via their smartphone.
		And I think that that created a very specific political outcome, which was the Trump revolution.
		It is no surprise that when, for the first time in history, the consciousness was elevated to such a high degree by social media and smartphones, it produced a wild populist nationalist revolution.
		Consequently, people started to realize that you had been right all along about so much of what you had said.
		People started to realize that what we had been told about 9-11 or the Iraq war So many other tragic incidents have been used to program us and condition us to accept, I think, certain political narratives and agendas.
		And I think that is what produced the revolution we saw in 16.
		Truly a political realignment and revolution.
		What happened after that was the largest crackdown on social media in history.
		Google, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, the rest all undertook A censorship regime using artificial intelligence, using activist groups like ADL and SPLC, and in their own words, the stated intention was to make it so that something like the Trump election, a true populist realignment, can never happen again.
		Patriots can never talk to each other, do citizen journalism, talk about things outside the mainstream.
		And I think that they were nearly successful.
		By 2020 and 2021, the process had effectively been completed.
		People like you and I and everyone in the middle had all been censored.
		Everyone that had not been censored was chilled.
		There was a chilling effect.
		And so those that weren't outright banned, I think, began to self-censor because they didn't want to be banned on the social media platforms.
		I think it was the banning of Donald Trump after January 6, 2021, when this trend started to reverse.
		I think Trump was too big to ban.
		And when they banned him several days after January 6th, that is when these other players got into the equation.
		I'm talking specifically about Chris Pavlovsky with Rumble introducing live streaming about a year after Elon Musk stated his intention to acquire Twitter, or at least to transform it into a free speech platform.
		And in just the past three years, people cannot take it for granted.
		In just the last three years, we have Kind of resumed this hot social media period, this free and open internet period that we had for a very short window at the beginning of the last decade.
		Consequently, just like in the last decade, which produced Donald Trump, I think this is producing a very similar and proportionate mass awakening.
		And I think that's why Donald Trump has been polling so well in every swing state, why he's been polling well nationally.
		I think that's why people Even you look at a lot of celebrities are coming around to a more right-wing position.
		So your reinstatement on Twitter, my reinstatement on Twitter, it shows that Elon Musk has a true commitment to free speech because I think from a financial standpoint, he gains nothing by bringing us back on.
		You know and I know the ADL doesn't like either of us.
		They have used us to blackmail him with the advertisers to try to bankrupt his company.
		And to make the debt bad, which he used to buy Twitter.
		So I think he gains nothing from it financially, but this is about upholding free speech.
		This is the civic function.
		I think there's a very real political function of having free speech.
		And I think he's committed to the principle.
		I think that's been more demonstrated than anything by him bringing me back.
		Because I think, as you said, some of the things I've said are even a little bit more wild than maybe things you've said.
		So, it's truly been a remarkable weekend.
		I think I'm very optimistic.
		Although, I will say my final message to kind of wrap this up, I would say I'm cautiously optimistic.
		And people need to recognize that, as I said at the beginning of this, we are in an extremely tenuous position.
		We have X, we have Rumble.
		That's it.
		YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, Facebook have not changed.
		There is just as much censorship on those platforms as there always has been.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or more.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You and I remain... Yeah, go ahead.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or more.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Or more, absolutely.
		And so it's really just in these two places where we're able to have a platform.
		So that's why we have to rally behind Musk and Chris Pavlovsky at Rumble as much as possible.
		Because the second that they turn those off, We're right back in the dark winter of 2021 with Joe Biden and we're going to pick up where we left off with all that tyranny.
		So people need to recognize that now is the time for people to rally.
		I think we really have one more shot here in 2024 to get Trump in and maybe there's a legal remedy for big tech censorship.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree with everything you said except one point.
		You said this is as big as 2026.
		I think it's five times bigger.
		Uh, you know than 2016.
		So I think this is way bigger than 2016.
		The awakening is explosive.
		I see it on the street.
		I don't make it about myself, but that's the gauge I have.
		I go to a grocery store.
		Instead of shaking 20 hands, I get mobbed.
		I go to the gym.
		I get mobbed.
		All we get is positive.
		I don't really get any negative anymore.
		That to me is indicative of this.
		When you talk about You know, all we have is basically X and, you know, rumble and then Joe Rogan kind of has his own outpost and then Tucker has his own.
		But for some of the social media.
		You're absolutely right.
		And the establishment knows they're losing on every front.
		And my concern is my next question to you is what do you think the deep state?
		Is going to do with 180 days to the election.
		To try to demonize their opposition.
		We've seen the pre programming.
		That white supremacist Are gonna blow everything up and kill everybody with no evidence of it.
		I see false flags.
		I'm really concerned about what this desperate deep state is gonna do as the whole world wakes up to him.
		What do you think?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think you're absolutely right.
		I think that's the oldest playbook.
		That's the one that they always go to.
		It's the exact same thing that they did in 2018 with the Christchurch shooting or any number of the other mass shootings or terrorist incidents.
		Every escalation in censorship in the past six or seven years was always precipitated or preceded by some sort of mass shooting, some sort of violent extremist episode, which, if you really look back and interrogate the actual timeline of events with any of those, whether it was El Paso or Christchurch or any of them, there was always things suspicious, like there was never a federal agent very far behind, never a confidential informant very far behind.
		In a lot of them, it was the closest circle, like the five people that knew the shooter, one of them was a confidential informant.
		So I think you're absolutely right.
		They, just like we, understand the stakes, which is that with Twitter, with Rumble, with big tech now, once again, back at our fingertips, we really actually have a fighting chance at political reform in the form of Trump.
		We really stand a chance at defeating the legal political persecution of Trump and him being an avatar and a representative of all of us.
		And so I think, as you say, they recognize the stakes just as much as we do.
		And I think there will be some sort of extremely unpredictable black swan type event.
		And you look at the way that they're seeding that idea on television all the time.
		You're right.
		It is going to be some kind of false flag.
		It is going to be some kind of violent extremism to vilify the right wing.
		And more than that, to justify a clampdown on free speech.
		And I saw a clip from your show this week.
		You've already been talking about this and hitting this all the time.
		It's this latest bill that they're passing in Congress.
		They're now using the campus protests, which are now spreading from coast to coast.
		Whatever you think about the process themselves, I think we both agree this new bill that has been introduced is a totalitarian anti-free speech takeover.
		They introduced the bill and they say now they're going to expand the definition of hate speech, specifically anti-Semitism, so that particular people can launch Title VI.
		Civil rights claims against the schools.
		And this is just the beginning.
		This is always how it starts.
		And I think you actually hit the note exactly right.
		Maybe it was a week, two weeks ago, you said that they're mobilizing the left on the campuses and increasingly even in the city streets.
		They're mobilizing the right to meet them on the campus and in the city streets as well.
		And this is creating the perfect condition, the perfect powder keg for a kind of One of these incidents where a bullet's gonna go, there's gonna be some kind of violent episode, you know that's always how it starts.
		And just like now, how they're using the Columbia protest and UCLA and everywhere else, they're using that to justify this Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.
		They may use some kind of future violent confrontation, some kind of violent episode at one of these demonstrations to justify even further crackdowns.
		And I think the most important point is that Twitter is in an extremely tenuous position.
		I don't think people realize that.
		It was very difficult for Elon Musk to keep the lights on over there at Twitter with the kind of pressure that the ADL was bringing on their advertisers and which comes in many forms, not just even from the advertisers.
		So it wouldn't take much for Congress to go in and pass a law, and you know as well as anybody that Republicans will be just as compliant in that as the Democrats.
		Republicans and Democrats obediently, both, bipartisanly supported this new bill that expands the definition of hate speech.
		- And Nick-- - Republicans are-- Yeah, go ahead.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		- And Nick, I wanna go through that bill with you because there's absolutely no doubt that's happening.
		But you mentioned, I mentioned false flags, you talked about it.
		The Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot, two trials where they were innocent, another third trial they finally got some people convicted.
		About of 24 people, like what was it, 20 were FBI agents, setting this up.
		So I think that's really going to be the model here.
		And that's where I've been.
		I'm not supporting Israel's carpet bombing.
		I also don't support Biden giving money to Hamas.
		And then the left funding that you can see they're trying to create this clash of civilizations that we're now witnessing.
		And I want to derail that.
		And Trump's imperfect, but way better than Biden, obviously, and get him into office.
		So pulling back from this, we can say, is Elon Musk for real?
		Or is he an opportunist?
		I tend to think he's for real overall.
		He's got a bunch of kids.
		He's not perfect.
		But he sees also that the wind's blowing in our direction.
		So it's not that he's an opportunist.
		He's already on our side.
		But now he thinks the time is ripe to take these people on.
		He's doubled the engagement.
unidentified		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it is, I think, an interesting question whether Elon Musk is an opportunist or if he's some kind of ideologue.
		moment right now.
		That's why people have got to be so concerned about what the deep state's going to do next.
		That's why we're trying to get everybody as focused as possible on that.
unidentified		Absolutely.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And it is, I think, an interesting question whether Elon Musk is an opportunist or if he's some kind of ideologue.
		Ultimately, though, that we have the free speech platform, at least in the short term, is really the only thing that matters.
		I could see that there might be some explanations for how this could be a good opportunity for Elon Musk.
		And I'll elaborate on one in particular.
		I thought it was very interesting the role that Twitter, or X, played in the recent Argentine election.
		As you know, Javier Mele was recently elected just last fall in Argentina, and it was before Javier Mele was elected that Argentina was going to accede to the BRICS Alliance, the Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa alliance, along with five or six other states.
		I think Egypt, the Emirates, Iran were a few of them.
		And Javier Mele getting into office with the conspicuous intervention of X is what allowed Javier Mele to cancel that accession of Argentina to BRICS.
		And recently, Elon Musk met with Javier Mele at one of these think tank summits.
		And the connection would be in lithium.
		Argentina has the largest unexploited lithium reserves in the world.
		It sits in the middle of the lithium triangle with Bolivia and Chile, although Argentina has the most by far, and they're not exploited at all.
		Now that Javier Mele is in charge, he's a neoliberal free market guy, and I think a lot of people agree with that.
		I mean, I'm a free market guy also.
		I believe in capitalism.
		But Javier Malay is now realigning Argentina away from China, away from Russia, away from Brazil, back towards the United States.
		And just as Argentina goes with the United States, so goes their lithium reserves.
		Of course, what is lithium used in?
		It's one of the most critical resources in the world.
		Batteries, lithium-ion batteries that will be vital for the energy transition, the global green energy transition away from combustion-based car engines to lithium-ion electric car battery-based systems.
		And so, Elon Musk, well, he's in the business of batteries.
		He's in the business of electric lithium-ion battery cars.
		Now that Javier Mele is giving the United States the exclusive access to the lithium, and if you look at some of the particular companies, you might wonder, did X play a role in Javier Mele's election last fall?
		And then, wouldn't that suggest that there might be some sort of opportunistic angle for Elon purchasing X?
		I think there's a lot of credibility to that idea.
		With that being said, however, you and I coming back onto the platform and using that to get Donald Trump elected, using that to raise awareness about the things that are going on in the world, as you said earlier, about globalism, about medical tyranny, about transhumanism, I think it's a net positive regardless.
		I think it can't be said enough.
		It really, truly can't be overstated what that does for the right wing.
		Without big tech, without access to the billions of active users that are on all the combined social media, we're just not, we're not playing the same game as the left.
		We're not playing in the same arena.
		We're not playing the same sport.
		And so there's this old myth.
		I'm sure you've heard it a million times.
		They say, well, if you get banned on social media, it actually helps you out because it brings more attention to your cause.
		You and I both know that is true to a very limited extent.
		But on net, it is not real.
		If right wing people cannot have access to the latest technology of mass media, we are effectively not in politics.
		If you can't use mass media to raise money, promulgate your ideas, advocate for your candidates, you are not playing the same sport as the left in politics.
		As always with everything, when these big moves are happening with billionaires and foreign states and tech companies, there's always intelligence agencies behind it.
		There's always a national security prerogative.
		It's always interest-based.
		Our job is to surf on those waves.
		Our job as citizen journalists and patriots is to surf on those big trends and really look at the big picture in the long term.
		You know, there are things that are going to be going on in the next election and with the next Congress, but there's an entire generation of young people that are being raised by Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate and Tucker Carlson, and people that are going to love humanity and love America and love freedom and love Christianity, and that's the kind of game that we need to be playing.
		People having kids now, they're going to have a lot of kids that will grow up in the future, and they're going to be the ones that are inheriting America, as opposed to left-wing people that are not having kids, And then their genetic line dies out, and I think they won't even be in the game in another generation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		They're committing cultural suicide and physical suicide.
		Nick Fuentes is our guest.
		I've got 100 questions.
		I'm sure he's got 100 points he wants to make.
		We'll take a quick break.
		And come back with him on the other side and talk about the future of free speech and the election that's 180 days away.
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unidentified		A warning to America.
		25 ways the U.S.
		is being destroyed in under two minutes.
		One, open borders and illegal immigration.
		Two, rampant crime and unsafe cities.
		Three, mass addiction and fentanyl.
		Four, election insecurity and interference.
		Five, the educational indoctrination of children.
		Six, the asymmetrical weaponization of justice.
		Seven, the destruction of private property rights.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		8.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Inflation and debt.
unidentified		9.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The global depopulation agenda.
unidentified		10.
		Record low fertility and plummeting birth rates.
		11.
		Unaccountable federal bureaucracies.
		12.
		Toxic food supply.
		13.
		Vaccine and pandemic disinformation.
		14.
		The transcontagion and sterilization of children.
		15.
		Over-prescription of pharmaceuticals.
		16.
		Destruction of the nuclear family and parental rights.
		17.
		DEI and the new racism.
		18.
		Moral and societal decay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		19.
unidentified		The financing of endless foreign wars.
unidentified		20.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The sprawling surveillance state.
unidentified		21.
		The centralization and consolidation of government power.
		22.
		The destruction of trust in institutions.
		23.
		The censorship industrial complex.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		24.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		State media propaganda.
unidentified		25.
		The smearing of those who challenge it.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		America has been captured.
		We have an occupied government.
		Any loyal American who does not want to be a complete slave of a biomedical extermination operation needs to get informed quick, get right with God, and then start telling everybody you know about it and not complying with the system.
		The system is here to destroy us.
		Complying with it will get you killed.
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		Okay, Nick.
		I'm glad you bring up the anti-semitism bill, because we didn't talk much other than a few text messages about you coming on about what the topics would be.
		And that's something front and center for me.
		And I saw you a week ago, you know, a clip was sent to me, and I'm not mad about it, you know, I've made comments about you, most of them, you know, tongue-in-cheek, flippant comments, or whatever, and you were like, Yeah, we've seen the new Gregory's report.
		Zionist death grip on America.
		Let's put it on screen.
		And I'm not trying to get a fight going here for the last three quarters of the show.
		I'm just getting this out, okay?
		And you're like, yeah, well, I think Jones is doing this because there's pressure on him to do it.
		No.
		I hired Greg Rees five years ago.
		I respect Greg Rees.
		He does whatever he wants.
		But I've made two films on the USS Liberty, and bombs, and the Israelis, and 9-11, that I produced and made.
		And I'm not trying to like this old man statement, because I was on air, unlike most people, I was on air.
		When I was 20 like you.
		So I respect somebody when they're 20 on air and now you're 25, 26.
		I don't look at like, oh, hey, sonny boy, get off my block.
		I'm the old man around here.
		I'm 50 years old.
		The point is when you were literally in diapers, I was exposing the U.S.
		to slavery and all this, and I get it.
		I don't talk about it constantly because to me it's old news, but I know Israel does evil stuff.
		I know Israel has nuclear weapons.
		I know Israel's been involved in a bunch of stuff.
		I understand all that.
		So it's not about scoring points here.
		It's that I believe that if I just cover topics and issues, I can get everybody to go for them, but if we make it about a certain group or another group, then we lose people.
		I just believe that if I build it, they will come.
		I believe that if I oppose global government, and oppose central bank digital currencies, and oppose transgenderism, and oppose whatever the policies of whoever runs it...
		The Rothschilds, people like that, that we will beat them with the Big Ten.
		And I'm not saying your way of doing things.
		I get the few jokes you make, the few things out of context.
		It's like Sandy Hook, barely ever talked about it, and you made that point on the spaces, and they make this hole that's my identity, and I did all this, and I peed on kids' graves.
		I get what's been done to you.
		All I'm saying is, is that before we get into the anti-Semitism bill, that it's not just me.
		It's dozens of congressmen and women, including Democrats, That have come out and said, this ends free speech.
		It bans the New Testament.
		It does.
		I already covered it for three, four days.
		I guess I got, I've got the bill.
		And I love how when I was on Spaces with you, that's when I blew up.
		People thought I already had to leave.
	I thought I got mad at you.
	I'm like going, hey, this, this bill.
	Literally bans the New Testament, and this bill, you know, gives this foreign, multinational, Israeli NGO control over the definition for the Justice Department.
	This guy goes, shut up, you're a liar, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm just like, in an hour gone by, I had to go, because it was my daughter's birthday.
	But I was in agreeance with you about that, because I can read the bill.
	But it's not just Alex Jones or Nick Fuentes, it's Chip Roy, you know, it's Gary, it's Jared Nadler.
	And it also fits into all this.
	Let me give people an overhead shot here.
	This is just what I've got in the stack today.
	In Germany, in the Netherlands, in France, they're arresting members of their parliaments and Congress that quote government numbers that 80% of the rapes are Muslims.
	Okay, I'm not against Muslims.
	I'm just saying.
	I'm also, you know, pointing that out.
	Elon Musk put that out.
	AFD politician convicted for warning about gang rapes.
	Canada imposed to imprison anyone who ever posted hate speech online that criticizes any group and the ADL's involved in that.
	So it just goes on from there and then I've got the bill HR 6090 that anybody can read.
	This is the murder of the First Amendment.
	It's so bad I can't even believe it.
	And then it lets this group, this International Holocaust Remembrance UNNGO, define what it is and says it's an open definition.
	So we can talk about this right now.
	All I'm saying is I just oppose what's happening.
	Instead of giving it the energy and kind of getting on its level.
	So that's where I'm at.
	And then I sit there and you're like, oh, Elon's greater.
	You know, you're on a show where people disagree with you.
	Oh, they're great for the free speech.
	But me, I'm like 90% aligned with what you're doing.
	And then I'm in a special category, though, to be judged that I'm not, you know, I'm a purist.
	Everybody has their own purist view, but I am a purist from my perspective.
	Nobody's telling me under the table what to do.
	I'm not getting, you know, programming from a satellite in orbit or something.
	I really try to morally make the best decisions about having a free, open society.
	So I gave you the floor earlier.
	We're going to skip this break coming up.
	Let's talk six, seven minutes.
	I'm gonna give you the floor for another 10 minutes to talk about this.
	And if you want, we can go through the bill because the denial about what is in this bill, like, oh, you're denying Ivermectin worked or denying any of this.
	It's cut and dry.
	It's so dangerous.
	And it does make me get really pissed at Israel and their leaders because this is Israel openly through the Congress, bipartisanly, literally saying, we're going to kick people out of college and we're going to indict people for quoting the Bible.
	And it's in there and it says it.
	So this is a lie in the sand, Nick.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely agree with you.
		I think this is one of the things where we're 100% aligned.
		And, you know, we do have kind of a playful back and forth on some of these things, but I think it's good, and I think you're right.
		We both absolutely agree on total free speech.
		And I think you recognize a lot of the things that Israel does that's wrong, and I do too.
		And I think that's why nobody can say that you're getting Jewish space laser signals or something that are telling you what to do.
		But this bill, I think it's very interesting, actually, precisely what's in it.
		Because I've seen a lot of people talk about the bill, and the way that they frame it, they say that the bill outlaws anti-Semitism.
		And you pointed this out on your show, which I appreciate it because you do the research and I think you deliver the real information.
		The bill specifically says, as you said, that it adopts the open definition of the IHRA specifically for the Department of Education.
		And so what that means is that a student can file a Title VI civil rights complaint using that definition And that will define what a civil rights violation might be.
		So, for example, if they go to University of Columbia, or UCLA, or one of these universities where these protests are taking place, and a Jewish student hears rhetoric like, from the river to the sea, or really generally any anti-Israel rhetoric, or as you said, even things in the New Testament, If those things are said or heard on campus by a Jewish student, according to the IHRA definition, that is anti-Semitism.
		And using the IHRA definition to define civil rights code, that means then that that particular school under the university, rather under the Department of Education, would be subject to some kind of Justice Department investigation.
		And so I think that what the bill is specifically designed to do is to go after the schools So that the schools shut down the protests.
		But this isn't the only bill.
		It comes with a suite of bills.
		Specifically, another bill.
		It's a pair.
		There is the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, which defines anti-Semitism for Title VI.
		There's another separate bill, which I don't think got as much attention, which says that anti-Semitism monitors will be deployed to universities on request by students.
		I don't actually know the particular mechanism for this.
		But you could see how those two bills work hand-in-glove.
		Congress passed a bill that says monitors to the campus to listen and observe and look out for anti-Semitism.
		The second bill defines anti-Semitism, or I should say ties the definition of anti-Semitism to the IHRA definition for Title VI enforcement.
		They're putting out the scouts, they're putting out the spies, and then the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act is the teeth.
		That's the enforcement.
		And it's meant to shut down the protests.
		Of course, why this really matters for people like you and me, and for the people that watch your show and my show, is the bigger context of what's happening in the Middle East.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's not forget that just a few weeks ago- Hold on, I wanna get there, Nick, and I'm gonna give you the floor again, but let's just walk back here a little bit.
		It's worse than what you're saying.
		Because Chip Roy said this.
		Lawyers have looked at it.
		I can read it.
		It's clear.
		It gives a UN NGO, Israeli-controlled...
		Control over title six for the reporting and then trains the federal government on what is legal or Illegal and says things like Jews killed Jesus.
		Well, whether that's true or not It's in the Bible and in the Roman history says that I might be attacking Jews Whether they said the moon is made of cheese or Jews didn't kill Jesus or Jews, you know, or it's Papa Smurf Whatever it is there.
		We should all be allowed to say it and And so it's not and I think I'm not saying you're wrong.
		I just think you're only covering one sector.
		This is a lot bigger than these Soros communist funded deals to create this clash.
		This is about the National Security Directive of Biden in June of 2021 where he said white supremacy is the number one threat.
		He defines it against open borders, against lockdowns, against forced shots, against election fraud.
		So we're being defined as white people and as populist as bad.
		We do have to respond to that at that level.
		So this is, quite frankly, I want you to elaborate on this.
		Far worse than what I think you were just saying.
		I mean, this is, this bill is unprecedented.
		A foreign group?
		I mean, we talk about the U.N., has this U.N.
		treaty, and it gives the countries the power for total tyranny, and Tedros says, well, don't worry, your countries will have the power, but it's through the U.N.
		They cede power to the U.N., it gives the power back to them through treaty.
		What I'm saying is, this is a treaty with a U.N.
		Israeli NGO Criminally controlling the definitions of the Justice Department.
		This is an act of war.
		This is, this is insane.
		I'm sorry to interrupt.
		Go ahead.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I absolutely agree.
		It is absolutely un-American and it is totally outrageous and it should be illegal.
		This is, what this represents is foreign subversion.
		Unfortunately, I would say it's not totally unprecedented because this same IHRA definition of antisemitism has already been codified into state law in, I think, 35 or 36 states.
		They just did it in South Dakota.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Florida, Texas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's shameful.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And they have applied it on college campuses, specifically in Florida.
		And they've also forced certain contractors for state government in states like Texas to sign an oath That they won't support things like BDS, Boycott, Divest and Sanction, against Israel.
		So, sadly, and you're right, it speaks to the enormity of the problem.
		It's an absolutely massive problem.
		It's an attack on the Constitution.
		It's an attack on national sovereignty.
		And it's coming, as you said, from one of these foreign NGOs, waged against our people and against our civil rights.
		And you're right also, and I think this is important, It doesn't matter what you believe about the material statements that are considered anti-Semitism under the law, which, like you said, would include the gospel, which says that, again, according to some readings, they'll say it's Jews killed Jesus or some other thing.
		It doesn't matter what you think about that material statement, or everything else that's covered under the definition.
		What matters is that this is a foreign nonprofit, backed by a foreign government, backed by supranational institutions, Coming into America, coming into state, local, and federal government, and saying, we're now going to define your criminal code, and we're now going to circumscribe what Americans are allowed to say in the United States.
		And I think that this has to become one of the big issues of our time.
		I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is.
		And you also got the U.N.
		taking control of health care.
		So what I'm saying is, the U.N.
		is not going to come in blue helmets.
		It's going to come with open borders and NGOs.
		Let me play you the newest clip today that John Bowne put out.
		I won't play the whole six-minute report.
		It's at Vanity Fair.
		It starts with Netanyahu days ago arrogantly saying he expects us to click our heels I don't care if the British said this or the French or the Chinese.
		I literally don't hate the Jews or Israel, but I'm hating what's going on with their leader.
		And he's literally saying, I expect you, just like he did two weeks ago and now they're passing laws with the protest, I expect you to get up here and to stop us being indicted for the carpet bombing with Lavender and the AI murder machine.
		Here's just the first 20 seconds of the report.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		Criminal court in The Hague.
		...is contemplating issuing arrest warrants against senior Israeli government and military officials as war criminals.
		Israel expects the leaders of the free world to stand firmly against the ICC outrageous assault on Israel's inherent right of self-defense.
		We expect them to use all the means at their disposal to stop this dangerous move.
joe biden ▲ ● ▼		My administration, with our second gentleman's leadership, has launched our nation's first national security strategy to counter anti-Semitism.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's stop there.
		They all, they all, he says jump.
		They say, oh hi.
		This is humiliating.
		Imagine if Xi Jinping said, I expect you to pass laws for us.
		The arrogance of this.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's totally arrogant and we would not tolerate or accept it from any other country.
		And it's not the first time.
		Netanyahu would stroll into our country and he would speak before a joint session of Congress.
		And you could go, I mean, I think they did a series of speeches over the years.
		And depending on the year, he would go in and there would be dozens of standing ovations, like half the runtime of the speech.
		For Bibi Netanyahu, a foreign head of state, in front of a joint session of Congress would be 30, 40 standing ovations, taking up 40 minutes of the entire speech.
		As you said, it is humiliating.
		It is emasculating.
		And it's also a principle that is universally applied.
		It's not singling out a particular country.
		It's talking about any country.
		As you say, if it was Xi Jinping, if this was the president of Iran, if this was Putin, if this was the president of France, we would say exactly the same thing.
		What this really is, is a sovereignty movement.
		It's about American sovereignty, American independence, Americans From America, born in America, for America.
		Not supranational government, not non-profits.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me back you up because I've got the bill HR 6090.
		Here is the definition from the group that they say is in charge.
		It says if you question the loyalty of any Jews in America, it's right here, and say that they're for Israel.
		Well, then we have a bunch of members of Congress wear Israeli uniforms there and admit that they That they have loyalty to that.
		So they're trying to outlaw stating fact?
		I mean, I'm just, I'm tired of this.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm with you.
		I am absolutely with you because you're right.
		These are empirical facts.
		It's not like these are subjective opinions.
		It's not even like it's rhetoric.
		As you say, to question the loyalty of a Jewish person and whether they have some allegiance to Israel, you and I know, I think as everyone knows, Yes, Jews have some ties, not all of them, but many Jews have ties to their homeland, and many of them wear the uniform.
		Many of them make an aliyah, they will travel to the country, and they'll take up arms in the IDF.
		So, these are facts.
		These are factual statements, and yet under this definition from a foreign non-profit, they say that that qualifies as a civil rights violation in the Department of Education.
		And of course, the universities is where you're supposed to have these conversations.
		Where else?
		In the United States of America, is it more appropriate to have an intellectual, political discussion about these matters than a university campus?
		That's where it's being attacked by these groups at the Department of Education.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we do have the Islamists attacking Jews and not letting them in, and that's all wrong.
		We've talked a lot about that.
		I'm against both things that are going on.
		It's like if there's two car wrecks, I'm against both of them.
		I don't hate any of these people, but what do you think Israel is like 70% is against Netanyahu.
		He used October 7th to stay in power.
		So I don't want to say it's one monolithic, you know, power group there, but the whole world is turning against Israel right now.
		What do you think is going to come out of that?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a very big problem for them.
		And I think that's why Netanyahu has become so unpopular.
		It remains to be seen.
		I mean, it's very possible that they will throw him out and attempt to throw out all of that bad baggage with him.
		On the other hand, I think that Israel has been putting itself in this position for a long time.
		I think they put themselves in that position with the Muslim world for generations.
		If you read bin Laden's letter to America, if you read the World Trade Center bomber, his letter and justification for it.
		I mean, they blame America's support for Israel on these attacks.
		So, I think it's a horrible situation, and this is where I think the Zionists and Israelis would do well to heed the warning of people like me and you.
		When we criticize these things... But Nick, Nick, interrupt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not.
		They're rolling into Rafah right now.
		We'll put the night vision up.
		It's nighttime there.
		What do you make of this?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The invasion in Rafah, it's happening in defiance of the entire world.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is in defiance of the United States, it's in defiance of all their Arab, even their allied neighbors like Jordan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because it's not seven Arab nations ganged up on them, then we support Israel.
		I get that.
		This is Israel with high-tech weapons ganging up on women and children.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely right.
		I mean, you could say theoretically that you could support an operation or a campaign, but the Gaza Strip is very small.
		It's a small population.
		Half the population, more than half, are legal minors under the age of 18.
		They've been starving them, bombing them, depriving them of medical equipment, tell them to evacuate, and then bomb them while evacuating, bombing them when they get to where they were supposed to evacuate to.
		And this is where the Biden administration comes in and says, look, We're not against the operation.
		We're not saying you don't have a right to defend yourself or conduct a foreign policy.
		But do it with some laws of war.
		Basic principles, ethics of war in mind.
		And we have now conditioned the military aid upon this.
		It seems that Joe Biden is now delaying some of the shipments of bombs to Israel out of fear that they're going to use this in Rafah.
		But this is really about Netanyahu's quest to stay in power.
		And I think everyone in Israel even knows that.
		Netanyahu knows that when the war is over, he's out.
		He also knows that if he doesn't go into Rafah, his governing coalition breaks apart because it's these two extremists His finance minister, his national security minister, they're the ones that are pressing him to do this.
		If he doesn't go forward with it, they're not going to support him.
		He loses the prime minister.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's why he's the main suspect in the stand-down.
		We know the stand-down happened October 7th.
		And I think Iran's involved in this.
		This is disgusting.
		Iran gets more power out of the attacks.
		They do these missile attacks against each other.
		It's all just posturing.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, yes.
		Well, and people would do well to analyze the age-old question, who benefits?
		When you look at something like October 7th, and you hate to say that, you hate to impugn the motives of a person like that, but the evidence is there.
		They were aware up to a year or two prior to October 7th that Hamas was plotting an attack Exactly like the one they carried out on October 7th.
		And that all came out in October and November of last year.
		They even witnessed Hamas preparing and training for that specific type of attack.
		It took them far more hours than it should have for them to respond on the day of.
		And there was also, I saw recently on X, a report that went viral of Netanyahu asking Qatar to provide more money from Hamas.
		That's the dirty little secret.
		That's at the core of all of this, which is that these maximalists, these Likud party types like Netanyahu, they support Hamas.
		They fund Hamas.
		They want Hamas to get bigger because it's like Star Wars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's my next point, is that Israel in the 70s founded Hamas.
		That's not debated.
		And that's what I get attacked like, Oh, you're pro-Muslim or you're pro-Israel.
		No, I'm saying whether you're the Muslims or the average Jew, they're not in control of the government.
		The government's working on the top to do this.
		Nick, that's my point, even with the leftist communists leading the Muslims.
		I'm against the Palestinians being murdered, but I also see the Democratic Party is literally funding this as the pretext for civil unrest ahead of Trump's election.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think there is a lot of truth to that, and you're right.
		I mean, it is the government in Israel.
		Of course, you can't blame millions of people for the actions of the state over there, just like you can't blame the millions of Americans for the actions of the state or the power players over here.
		But what's important to consider is those, as we just talked about even on the last segment about Musk and Malay, it's always important to follow the money, and it's always important to ask who benefits from particular things, and to interrogate those questions.
		What is so important about your show against contra, things like Fox News, and not to shade other conservatives, but contra other sources, is that it is important for right-wing people to do the research.
		Every day you got a stack of papers on your desk, you're reading international news, you're reading between the lines, Conservatives have to get better at this because I think we've been put in a very unfortunate position because we've allowed ourselves to be tricked by these kind of facile media narratives from fake conservatives for generations.
		It's only when you actually follow the money and follow who benefits in particular, which individuals, firms, governments, who benefits from certain things.
		And in the case of this Hamas invasion on October 7th, the one way to look at that is that it's a horrible catastrophe, and it was.
		What is equally true is that it has served as the pretext for a very aggressive, very ambitious campaign in Gaza, which it seems fulfills a long-held goal and ambition by Netanyahu and his party.
		Not just for him politically, but also for him and their party ideologically and their plans.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, they stand to gain.
		We're going to start the next and final hour, but you were telling me off air, the best place to go is your Rumble.
		How do people sign up and follow you on Rumble?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Rumble.com slash Nick J. Fuentes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And as you said, I do a daily show, so I'd appreciate if everybody followed me there because I'm doing this sort of stuff every night.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's live there right now.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're live streaming it here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
		All right.
		We'll be right back with Nick Fointest straight ahead.
		Hour number three.
		I'm going to hear what he wants to talk about next.
		I've asked a bunch of questions.
		We're going to ask him what he wants to hit next.
		We're back in two minutes.
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		Please remember, ladies and gentlemen, we're Lister Supported.
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		Nick, I've asked a lot of the questions the first hour.
		In this hour, anything you want to talk about, what's front and center for you?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's front and center for me, what I've been talking so much about on my show and on X, and well, lately on X and before that on Telegram, Is I think that now more than ever at the time is to talk about World War Three and the threat that that poses right now with Iran and Hezbollah.
		I think that's probably the least covered thing, at least particularly in this moment, as we talked about in the last hour.
		The Rafah invasion has begun.
		The tanks and troops are rolling in their bombing, and I think now nobody's talking about the threat of this war escalating and widening into a full on regional conflict.
		And I think that What you're seeing across the country, I think the tie-in, because we talked about some angles of the anti-Semitism bill and I think we hit the big picture, but I think what is not being talked about enough is that there is a very concerted effort to silence anybody that is talking about what's going on over there and the risk of this war spiraling out of control.
		And we talked about the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, we talked about the anti-Semitism monitors, but that is just the latest episode In what has been going on at college campuses.
		Before that, they went after the presidents of Harvard and UPenn, Claudine Gay and I think it's Eliza McGill over there at University of Pennsylvania.
		And that was in October, November, December, and January, where they decapitated the administration at those schools.
		Now, they're going after the protesters with these dual laws.
		The Title VI redefinition of antisemitism, the deployment of the monitors.
		And I think it's all related to what we're seeing now in Rafah.
		And what I tried to touch on in the last segment, we took it a little bit of a different direction, but this is all framed in the context of what happened with Iran a few weeks ago, which is that Israel bombed the Iranian embassy in Damascus, Syria, killing seven Iranian generals.
		And then as everybody saw, Within two or three weeks, Iran retaliated by sending hundreds of drones, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles at Israel.
		That is the event that cleared the way for the $26 billion aid package in Congress to clear, and for that money then to go to Israel.
		I think, though, the significance was lost on a lot of people, which is that was the first time in the history of planet Earth when the Islamic Republic of Iran and the state of Israel engaged in open, direct hostilities, when Israelis bombed Iranian soil effectively by bombing an embassy and Iran retaliated by bombing Israel from Iran.
		And so what was for decades a shadow war between those two states, which consisted in proxy, excuse me, proxy war, assassinations, industrial or military sabotage, has now become direct missile and drone strikes between the two countries.
		And I think that when you consider the entire thing, not just in light of what has happened since October 7th, but even before that, even if you go back decades to the clean break memo in the 1990s, The prize for Israel is Iran's nuclear weapons program.
		It's that nuclear complex in five or six cities in Iran.
		And I think that Israel's ambitions don't stop with Rafa and they don't stop with Gaza.
		What they said after the October 7th attack is they want to completely redefine the geopolitical balance of power in the region forever.
		They don't accomplish that just by annexing Gaza or just by securing military control over Gaza.
		They're doing that by, as many of their more radical members in the government have said, diminishing Hezbollah in South Lebanon and by bombing Iran's nuclear program directly, which is what they sort of hinted at when they launched a minor drone attack on the airport in Isfahan, which is part of Iran's nuclear complex.
		So I think We're in a very dangerous game, and this is where I think your analysis is so sorely needed.
		It's dialectic.
		It's about being forced into a paradoxical situation, or catch-22, where there are no good options.
		Where on the one hand, we have this mass mobilization on the campuses, leftists and right-wingers fighting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Next day there, we're back in one minute.
		Explain dialectics when we come back.
		Thank you.
		The old financial system is going down.
		The globalists are trying to flex their muscles, but they're in deep trouble.
		And Nick Fuentes, one of the most sensitive people in the world, was just getting into Iran and Israel and the strikes against each other and the Hegelian dialectic, where Israel and the U.S.
		and Iran aren't perfectly synced, but they all get power out of a war.
		You got cut off explaining the Hegelian dialectic.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		So I was talking about this situation where, on the one hand, we have never been at a greater risk of being drawn into a war with Iran.
		And that was always the concern.
		After 9-11, when we embarked on the series of foreign adventures in the Middle East, there were really three primary targets, and they were Iraq, Syria, and Iran.
		We know what happened to Iraq.
		Saddam Hussein got overthrown in a major 20-year ground war.
		Syria was destabilized by this all-in proxy conflict between 100 different countries over a period of 10 years.
		And that has left in this decade Iran, and what is to be done about one of the great powers in the Middle East that still does not accept or seek to normalize relations with Israel, and which is also developing what appears to be a civilian cover for a nuclear program and for a missile program in the form of nuclear energy and space and rockets.
		So on the one hand, you have this dynamic that with what's going on, this conflagration over there in Gaza, we are at a very high risk of being drawn into hostilities with Iran directly, as evidenced by the recent tit-for-tat strikes.
		At the same time, there is a mass mobilization on campuses to attempt to retard this.
		And as you say, the people that are deploying to the campuses These people don't love America.
		They're leftists.
		A lot of them are going on the campuses, really, for the wrong reasons.
		I mean, they're with the campus, or rather, they're with Palestine, not because they're sympathetic even for the humanitarian cause.
		A lot of them are just radical liberationists, and so we're not ideologically aligned at all.
		And yet, deploying all those people to the campuses may retard America's support for a war with Iran.
		So there's these two things going on.
		War with Iran, mass mobilization on the campuses.
		The mass mobilization on the campuses, if it gets out of control, as we talked about in a previous segment, could create a false flag scenario that could bring down Trump and indict patriots and undo the free speech beach hat.
		At the same time, the campus protests are the only thing slowing down America's support or its reluctant drawing into a war with Iran.
		So we're in this impossible situation where you shut down the protests, maybe you get a war with Iran.
		You prevent a war with Iran by Going to the protesters and capitulating, but then you get this flashpoint for an all-out war in America.
		And so there's this very, very slim, narrow opportunity where we have to thread the needle, where on the one hand, we can't let the protests turn into BLM.
		We can't have them mobilizing in the event that Trump wins for some kind of revolution.
		We saw a little bit of that in 2016 with Antifa.
		At the same time, we also can't be drawn into a war with Iran.
		So this is why it's very important for patriots and for America First types to be aware of all the facts.
		I feel like it's sort of the same energy of Star Wars.
		I know you and I are both fond of Revenge of the Sith, where they're kind of playing both sides in a way where they achieve their ultimate goal.
		And I see, for example, they're characterizing all these protesters as pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist, The cops are going in and cleaning them up.
		And I see a lot of right-wing people cheering that on and celebrating it.
		And I understand why.
		The protesters are not friendly to us.
		As I said, they're hardcore leftists, communists.
		They're tearing down the American flag.
		At the same time, look at the cost of bringing down the protests.
		It's an attack on the First Amendment with the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.
		It's potentially clearing the protests so that there will be no opposition to America's support for Israel if they try to provoke a war with Iran.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then it sets the precedent for everybody to lose their free speech.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Precisely.
		And for even people like you and I to criticize what's going on over there or criticize anything.
		So I guess the message to America First Patriots is to be very keenly aware of the games that are being played.
		And the heuristic is this, or the principle is this, people need to start saying this, we have to take our own side.
		Americans, Christians, you, me, we don't agree on everything, but we have to take our own side.
		And what that means is we can't be used by the Palestinians, We also can't be used by Israel.
		We can't be used by the leftists on the campus.
		We also can't be used by these non-profits from foreign countries.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've got to stop being sucked into gang wars or tribal wars.
		Why are we sucked into Crips and Bloods or Jews vs. Palestinians?
		Why?
		Why do I gotta pay for Ukraine $200 million?
		I'm done.
		Our country's falling apart.
		I'm not against the Ukrainians.
		I'm not against the Jews.
		I'm just like, I'm done.
unidentified		I'm done too.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The country's in total decline.
		I mean, the cities are up for grabs.
		It's vagabonds and opportunists have totally taken over everything.
		Standards are declining everywhere.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The country, as you and I know, is unrecognized.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're on fumes right now.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And we just, a month ago, passed a $95 billion aid package.
		It's a giveaway.
		$60 billion for Ukraine, $26 for Israel, $7 for Taiwan.
		I'm old enough to remember.
		I know you said I was in diapers when you were talking about the Liberty, but I am old enough to remember Trump asked for $17 billion to build the border wall.
		$17 billion!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, but Dick, I wasn't putting you down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you're young and successful.
unidentified		I know, I know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's annoying to go, Jones, whatever, I saw the club.
		I'm just you're like Jones is only doing this now because people are no, I made two films on.
		I'm just a little annoying.
		So but moving on from that, I want to get in a fight about that.
		Let's shift gears into other fields that I watch your show some but I've already really get into this, but you're a smart guy.
		I want your opinion on it.
		The next COVID tyranny, the next lockdown, the UN COVID bill that takes over our bodies, the transhumanism of the WEF because they're so powerful.
		What's your view on all that and where that's going?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it's disturbing because it's accelerating very rapidly, and you mentioned very briefly on the last segment this Lavender AI that they're deploying in Israel to target the Palestinians, this facial recognition technology.
		What's disturbing is we don't know the real extent of it.
		We know that they are restricting how much of the artificial intelligence software is killed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know Israel says, it's okay, we kill a bunch of people, a robot did it, and then they admit it's killing five times more.
		So they're like, it's okay, we're killing civilians, a robot said do it.
		That's like advocating irresponsibility.
		It's very dangerous.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's terrifying.
		The combination of these unmanned ground and air vehicles combined with facial recognition and artificial intelligence, it's not hard to see where this goes.
		And that is mass murder.
		Because if you can send machines into battle and delegate the authority or responsibility to take life to an artificial intelligence learning algorithm, this lands in full-on slaughter.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think... Well, that goes back to Nuremberg, where they say, we're only following orders.
		Regardless, that's the current thing.
		So, where you just give your responsibility over, oh, machines said I'm gonna do it.
		This is taking humans out of the decision process.
		This is the end of humanity.
		This is what Yuval Noah Harari calls the post-human world.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		And it's these military applications which are so terrifying.
		And we don't even know the full extent of it.
		I mean, you know, when they released Chad GPT, consumers got a taste of it.
		It was so powerful, it meaningfully started to replace lawyers and doctors.
		People are using it to get legal advice and medical advice.
		They actually had to go back and revise ChatGPT and make it weaker because it was too powerful.
		And that was just a public product.
		That's just what we know about.
		We don't even know how sophisticated it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, let me back you up.
		I know some of the top computer people.
		I'm sure you do too.
		They tell me what we're seeing is 10 years old.
		They're holding it back.
		It would take everything over right now.
		I mean, I already, listen, six months ago, The AI hacked my phone number, called me on Tucker Carlson's number, and then mimicked Tucker Carlson's voice to me, but I could tell what it was saying wasn't Tucker.
		So I said, this is AI, and it hung up.
		Then it was confirmed it was AI.
		I mean, that's old technology.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And well, that's the problem is we don't even, I mean, people like yourself are aware, but the masses are not fully aware of the threat that's posed by this stuff.
		It's not even public what's out there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So see, I'd rather not fight Muslim versus Jew, Christian.
		I get the fights there.
		I'm not saying it's not real.
		I'd rather unify and say, we don't release biological weapons with COVID.
		We don't release nuclear weapons that will kill us.
		We have to decide to not do this.
		We, humans control our own evolution.
		To me, that's the existential threat.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		Arms control, in terms of artificial intelligence and robotics, is really one of the understated issues of our time.
		It may be the biggest issue of our time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's simple.
		When you go to Chick-fil-A and a robot delivers your food at your table, or a robot... You say, no, I don't want a robot.
		It's not that you're against technology.
		It's that the technology is being bent towards attacking us.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I may push back.
		I mean, when you go to the drive-thru and you get an AI, I prefer that over what you usually get.
		You go to Wendy's drive-thru and they're like, What you want what you want, you know, I prefer the artificial intelligence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, but I get it's better in ways But but but it's the it's like you put a worm on a hook the worm is the eye gets it done better But it's connected to something evil.
		I'm not saying the eye isn't better up front.
		I'm saying it gives them total control So I'd rather somebody say, you know three times.
		I want a cheeseburger.
		You like a chicken sandwich I told you a cheeseburger three times send it back to give you a A salad.
		I understand.
		That's a human problem.
unidentified		But... I'm just teasing you a little bit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I know you're teasing me, man, but it's like... See, while you're all worried about religious groups and racial groups, and I am too, you get, like, I'm worried about the technocracy, right?
		Like, I'm worried about that.
		That's what I'm really concerned about.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think you're right to be concerned about that.
		It's certainly one of the big issues of the time.
		AI, robotics, it's the end of humanity.
		I totally agree with you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe I can't help myself that I project humanity on every group, and I think they're going to want to join me.
		Maybe I'm wrong, Nick.
		Okay, you brought up a great point.
		Next point, what do you want to cover?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Next point?
		Why don't we cover, how about, we've covered a lot, the protesters.
		Why don't we cover the Trump Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Not just New York.
		They just suspended the trial on immunity.
		They just suspended the trial on dealing with the documents.
		I mean, the wheels are coming off.
		What's going to happen there?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I think they've totally lost the plot, though.
		I mean, between the Fannie Willis thing in Georgia, now they're threatening to throw him in jail.
		They're postponing the document thing.
		I think the whole thing has completely fallen apart.
		It reminds me very much of that dossier that came out about Trump and the golden showers in the Russian hotel, the Steele dossier.
		This stuff is so half-baked and it's sort of amusing.
		I mean people try to project onto the deep state like these guys are 007, like these guys are men in black.
		People say it's the deep state, it's the derp state.
		I mean these guys are complete idiots.
		The people that set up Trump, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, they could barely keep it in their pants.
		Then you got this Fulton County trial with Fannie Willis She hires one of her boyfriends who's never done a felony trial to be the judge, paying him a hundred times what the next highest paid judge is being paid.
		It's a joke, you know, but that's really the symptom of the country.
		I suppose that may be a source of optimism.
		We look at what we're up against and it's an asymmetrical battle.
		They're richer than us.
		They're more powerful than us.
		They wield this technology that we've just talked about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they're retarded.
		I mean, no, no, they literally are incompetent, which actually scares me more.
		Because a smart person knows their limits and is concerned.
		A dumb person doesn't.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so it cuts both ways, though.
		There's hubris.
		There's the hubris of going too far and doubling down when they should seek an off-ramp.
		At the same time, hubris leads to miscalculations.
		The goal, though, is to just avoid a catastrophe.
		We don't want a situation where the neocons and technocrats keep doubling down, using force to suppress patriotism, using force to suppress... By the way, they're doing that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Lithuania, France, they're all sending troops right now to fight the Russians.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's already happened.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		France, too.
		They say that France is already there and Macron is talking about fighting them directly.
		I mean, it's on.
		It's on in Venezuela.
		It's on in Ukraine.
		It's on in the Middle East.
		It's gonna be on in Taiwan shortly.
		It'll be on in Armenia, where Azerbaijan is looking to take advantage.
		Serbia and Kosovo.
		The whole world is about to blow up in conflict.
		We're already in World War III.
		It's just exactly the same as the period that preceded The last two world wars in the 20th century so people would do well to get smart and pay attention and you know look at the real sources of information like what we're talking about rather than some of this other nonsense and I tend to agree with you I think most of politics is a great big diversion I know that you know maybe I place a little bit too much emphasis in your mind on some of these other things but you're absolutely right that there is a there is a global perspective there is a
		Absolutely a universal global perspective of how we can all unite and try to avert this coming cataclysm.
		I think that's the only way to describe it is a total cataclysm, total fallout, and it's coming very quickly.
		A period of global anarchy, conflict on every continent, and using a new class of weapons that we don't even fully understand.
		Weapons that we don't even fully control.
		So if there ever was a time for the patriots of all nations to get together and rise up against the technocrats, now would be it.
		And I guess I'm just looking for a little cooperation.
		I mean, I hope that me getting to maybe bring it full circle.
		Hopefully me getting reinstated on X is as a little olive branch, maybe to bring me and my faction back into the fold.
		Because I absolutely agree with you.
		And whatever background people come from, If they agree with us on these matters, we're on the same side on this stuff.
		So I'm totally willing to go all in with you on the Big Ten and to look for agreement and to look for overlap.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me ask this big question.
		This is the big question.
		Obviously, you wouldn't want to be a dictator.
		You wouldn't want to be, you know, Kim Jong-un.
		But if you were George Washington and you were the president, how would you end these wars?
		What would you do politically?
		What would you do to the left?
		People say, oh, Trump's going to get in and be a dictator.
		Well, we're not about retribution.
		I said this the first time with Roger Stone, but they've committed crimes.
		The deep state is embedded.
		It's a coup.
		So if there's a coup that's taking over your government, you've got to go remove it.
		We're not looking for a fight.
		They already did it.
		So if you were the president, if you were President Trump, January 21st, 2025, sworn in in front of the U.S.
		Capitol, what would Nick Fuentes do?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, day one I would fire 50,000 federal employees because what you have to recognize is when Trump got in the first time, it was the deep state that refused to allow him to carry out the agenda.
		And we could get into all the details on that, but it was literally an abject refusal and sabotage.
		I mean, borderly illegal and unconstitutional.
		So I'd fire 50,000 people right off the rip and replace it with loyal patriots.
		There are plenty of smart people in America.
		You don't need to find these left-wing dirtbags in Washington, D.C., these, like I said, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok types.
		You find good people to run the government.
		That's number one.
		Number two, you build the wall.
		I mean, there's millions of people pouring in every day.
		That's the biggest national security threat nobody talks about.
		We don't even know who these people are.
		We don't even know how many people are coming in.
		How could we?
		It's 20, 30,000 a day.
		It's 300,000 in a given month.
		So you gotta get the military on the border and you gotta get them to build a wall.
		Not an 18-foot fence with a 5-foot climbing plate.
		You need a 30-foot concrete wall.
		1,000 miles at least.
		Possibly 2,000.
		That's day one.
		That's day two.
		Day number three, you need to stop the war in Ukraine immediately.
		They lost.
		You need to sacrifice those four eastern oblasts that have already seceded and been annexed by Russia.
		You need to agree that Ukraine will never join NATO and find a way that Ukraine could be a buffer state like it had been for the past 30 years.
		Then you try to pry Russia away from China.
		The nightmare coalition, in the Bismarck terminology, is Russia and China.
		It didn't have to be like that.
		As a matter of fact, it shouldn't have been like that.
		Well, that's right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nixon tried to split those two.
		That is the nightmare equation.
		Since you mentioned it, here's clip 21.
		Illegal scaling the San Diego-California border, and the Border Patrol is high-fiving them, and then they tried to arrest the press.
		Here it is.
		I mean, folks, your balls grew up to fly.
		And we're all being watched for the IRS.
		But the illegal aliens just pour across.
		And I'm not even against these people individually, but I'm against them as a weapon being used against us.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Well, you go to the TSA, they grab your balls, you know, they put you through that machine where they could see it naked, and then these people, they just walk right through.
		I mean, you can't bring a 10-ounce bottle of shampoo on an airplane.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they've got me on a list.
		I went to Hawaii a few months ago with a family.
		They grabbed my balls, going there and coming back.
		I'm on a list, like, oh, hi, Alex, we're a lister.
		Sorry, I do this.
		And literally, I always have some dude literally grabbing me.
		Like, my whole life, no dudes have grabbed me until I fly on the TSA.
		But the border's wide open, Nick.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		It's an empire of, uh, it's a total joke.
		You know, the emperor has no clothes and, uh, there's no, it's completely lawless country.
		So, I mean, that's something that you got to take care of day one.
		Cause these people are pouring in, they could be Chinese spies.
		They could be terrorists.
		They could, we don't even know.
		And at the minimum, if you're lucky, they're just regular old, like illiterate people and not, not to, I don't mean to attack them personally, but These are people that really don't bring anything to the table economically.
		The best you could hope for.
		If they don't have completely malign intentions, they're just somebody that's been walking through the desert, probably without a shower.
		Look at El Salvador.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're paying for scientists to come there.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		You're paying for scientists, artists, all kinds of people.
		That's called enriching your country.
		But that's because they have a leader that puts their country first.
		They have a strong leader with a popular mandate to grow the country's economy and try to create a better future.
		And that is really what MAGA is about.
		Make America Great Again.
		It's this idea that, you know, we can acknowledge our country is not as good as it used to be.
		We can do something about that.
		It doesn't have to be this way.
		It's a lack of political will.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, we can take people from Africa and the Middle East and Eastern Europe, but we want the best.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
		Well, and in a small number.
		We're taking in millions of people every year, and they're not the best.
		In fact, they're the worst.
		I mean, these are people that are literally being dumped in.
		And Trump was right when he said it.
		They're sending these people.
		They're emptying their jails.
		They're emptying the people that they can't take care of into our country so that we pay to educate them and pay for their hospitals.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're dumping on us!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's a dumping ground for their exports.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why I said, that's my next question.
		Netanyahu, three months ago the document came out, now Biden said it two weeks ago, they want to bring a million refugees to Gaza here.
		Feel sorry for them, fine, but if Israel says they're so deadly, they can't take them.
		I said, that's Netanyahu using America as a toilet.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That is, I think, the aspect that nobody's talking about.
		There were two Israeli politicians in the Wall Street Journal a few months ago, and they said that America has to open its doors to the refugees.
		It's like, OK, so they're not good enough for Israel.
		They're not good enough for Gaza.
		They're not good enough for the Sinai.
		But they're coming to a town near you.
		They're coming to Peoria, Illinois.
		They're coming to Boston.
		They're coming to Little Rock.
		It's totally ridiculous.
		But that is the plan.
		It's a population transfer.
		And just like in Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan, Or even Libya, for that matter.
		They want to throw them into our country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But let's just say it.
		The Israeli lobby, predominantly, loves Balkanization.
		And they love a bunch of new Democrats, a bunch of Ilhan Omars.
		And so they're going to dump that here, and then use it to divide us, just like Netanyahu's predecessors created Hamas to divide Palestine.
		It's the same deal.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's 100% on the money.
		It's what they're doing over there.
		It's what they're doing over here.
		It's what they're doing in Europe.
		It's classic divide and conquer.
		Because people are easier to rule when there are no ties that bind.
		When there's no social fabric.
		If everybody comes here... And I'm totally with you.
		We don't hate the people.
		We just can't have a country that's completely incoherent and incomprehensible.
		We need to have a social fabric.
		We need to have common values.
		How about a common language for starters?
		And we don't need the world to dump all of their problems into our country.
		Let Israel take care of them.
		Let El Salvador or Guatemala take care of them.
		We have enough problems as it is.
		I think everybody recognizes that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		We're sick of being told we gotta bend over to anybody.
		I don't care who it is.
		Israel, anybody.
		We'll be right back with Nick J. Fuentes.
		Stay with us.
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nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're an e-girl.
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		They've taught you how to be cool.
		The cool person goes... And never thinks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the guy that gets all the girls is the fool.
		You know, who wears the cool clothes.
		He doesn't care about politics.
		You know that?
unidentified		Ooh, baby, let's party!
		Yeah!
		I don't care about my future or my kid's future or the world's future.
		I'm a caring person.
		I like Duke Linton a lot.
		He's so cool.
		He's so nice.
		Do people realize what you're watching on this program right now?
		This is incredible.
darrin mcbreen ▲ ● ▼		The year is 1995, and InfoWars launches the last of America's counter-globalist and InfoWars launches the last of America's counter-globalist probes.
darrin mcbreen ▲ ● ▼		In a freak mishap, InfoWars... InfoWars... InfoWars...
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		GMO, transhumanism, poison shots, UN treaties, world government, because I see a lot of the great work that folks are out there doing covering certain issues.
		But I'm not saying you, but it seems like a lot of your supporters are a one track mind on one issue and one issue alone.
		And to me, I want to sell people on a pro human future like Elon Musk is doing.
		And I'm not doing that to critique you or say you're wrong.
		I'm saying this is where I come from.
		This is what I actually believe.
		There's no wizards telling me what to do.
		Sometimes I wish there was.
		I am literally trying to fight for a human future.
		I have four children.
		You know, you saw that clip from like 28 years ago we just played, uh, you know, where I was talking about, you know, people being trendy and not caring.
		You care.
		That's a good thing.
		People have their free speech.
		I support that.
		So covering the waterfront, transhumanism, the UN treaty, all that, you've all known Harari, the future's not human.
		I say BS.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I totally agree.
		I think you're right.
		The future does belong to humanity.
		I mean, just look at the fertility rates.
		And we hit this on one of the previous segments, these people like Hariri, they're not having kids.
		I don't know about him in particular, but these trendies, as you said in that clip, these leftists, these liberals, people that took the vax, I mean, if they're even alive, people are dropping like flies because of the vaccine they just pulled AstraZeneca, which was one of the big ones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, Hariri's not having any kids.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's doing something else.
unidentified		That's right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're all doing some pretty strange things.
		No, but the future belongs to the people that show up.
		And intergenerationally, the people that show up are the people that are having kids.
		People like you, people like Elon, Trump.
		Hopefully me one day, I don't have kids right now.
		But no, I think it's a very bright future for the people like us because we're the ones that are going out there and forming the families.
		Not me in particular, not yet, but people that share our views.
		We're the ones that are going out there and forming the families and having the kids and the kids are the ones that grow up and they are going to be the humanity of the future.
		Consequently, population is always getting more religious, it's always getting more conservative, it's always getting more pro-human, just by a kind of interesting new selection bias which has resulted from modernity.
		So, So I totally agree.
		This is not—the fight is far from over.
		But it does all come down to, as you said, this full spectrum of issues.
		Everything that's getting in the way is coming from the globalists.
		It's the vaccines.
		It's the poison GMO foods.
		It's things like birth control.
		I would contend it's even fundamentally built into modernity.
		It's the fact that women are deferring childbirth.
		All the time.
		The average age at which women are having children is always going up.
		And the higher that it goes, the lower the fertility rate is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So let's just get the elephant in the room out in the open, because you're being nicer on the show.
		I'm not afraid of going anywhere, because like 80% of people in Israel are against Netanyahu.
		I just want to give Jews an opportunity to come in.
		I want to give Germans, Christians, Muslims, anybody.
		Netanyahu did say he uses Israel as guinea pigs.
		And if you do look at Borla, and if you do look at Larry Fink and the CEOs, they are predominantly Jewish.
		The leaders of the Communist Revolution, they're predominantly Jewish.
		And we've got great folks like the people that put out these major conservative universities like PragerU.
		They admit that.
		There's also a lot of great people that would be Jewish that are fighting that.
		I wonder where that paradigm is where you have so many of the transhumanists like Yovano Harari and others that are with Bill Gates, who sounds like a eugenicist Nazi to me, on that paradigm.
		Because when I try to oppose globalism or Yovano Harari, I get a New York Times article how I'm anti-Semitic.
		I didn't really make a focus on him being Jewish, saying it's a post-human world.
		To say the future is not human, that sounds beyond Hitler.
		Hitler said it's only Aryan.
		And slaves under it, which I don't agree with.
		But then when somebody says, you're all dead, you're all scum, you're all trash, I have a real problem with that.
		So how do you square that up?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that religion is fundamental.
		And if I talk a lot about Jewish people, it's because I am fundamentally motivated, more than anything, by the mission to evangelize people into the Christian religion.
		For me in particular, that's the Catholic Church.
		So I don't have this view of, I don't have an indifferentist view of God that, you know, everybody's out there worshiping the same God.
		I think there's one Trinitarian God with a very specific, particular nature.
		I think that one of those persons of God became incarnate in man.
		His name was Jesus Christ.
		He was put on the cross.
		He founded a church.
		Now, the reason I say all that stuff is because, of course, the Jewish people rejected him.
		And the Jewish people, in rejecting him, in rejecting this Messiah that they were to bear.
		And a lot of the Jews, of course, the early Christian community was mostly Jewish people who then became Christians.
		But those Jews that persisted without accepting Jesus Christ They kind of formed this new religion, this rabbinical Judaism.
		Maimonides is a part of it.
		There's a very dense and complicated history.
		And throughout history, you see them show up at the beginning of all of these evil movements like the Kabbalah, like the Illuminati.
		You see them at the founding of really the Enlightenment with Baruch Spinoza.
		And you see them popping up all over the place.
		And I don't think that's a coincidence.
		I think that there's a very clear kind of dichotomy set up from a religious point of view between Christians and Jews.
		Revelation talks very precisely about a synagogue of Satan.
		I think that Jews being the only religion that say that Jesus is burning in hell, being the only religion that actually hates Jesus, I think that's extremely relevant.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but let's back off from that because I want to have a real discussion here.
		I agree with what you're saying.
		That's true.
		It's the Jews came up with Abrahamic religions.
		I mean, there's something special about the Jews, even before Jesus, King David, King Solomon, all that.
		What do you think it is about the Jews?
		I mean, 3,000 years ago, they were a big deal.
		I mean, let's recognize there's something going on there.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, God chose them to bear the Savior.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		God chose Adam and Eve, and God chose Noah, and God chose Abraham, and so they were raised up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, exactly.
		As much as I'm mad at what some of them are doing, I respect what they came from.
		You see the difference?
		It is that I don't hate them, though I can fear what some of them are doing.
		I'm legitimately trying to get them not to destroy themselves and all of us at the same time, along with every other group that's doing this.
		Does that make sense?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Well, and I don't hate them either, and I will I'll give you a little love speech.
		I think that Jews are actually extremely intelligent.
		I know a lot of them and I actually respect a lot of them immensely.
		I mean, you could say that on the one hand, and to their credit, they are the author of a lot of bad things.
		They also are the author of a lot of good things.
		They make good movies.
		They make good music.
		They're funny.
		A lot of them are intelligent.
		I have immense respect, even for the ones I disagree with.
		Even for a guy like Shapiro.
		I don't like him.
		I think he's a hard worker.
		And I could say that about a lot of them.
		So it really doesn't come from a place of hatred, but it does come from a place that they do practice a different religion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It comes from a place of your independence saying you're who you are.
		So let me ask you this.
		I know a lot of Catholics.
		Great people.
		Love them all.
		Catholic Church is ancient.
		It's gonna be corrupt like any old powerful group.
		No matter who it is, let's just, U.S.
		government, you know, it's old, it's powerful, it's corrupt.
		That's where I'm at.
		Like, I don't blame Jews.
		Their system's old and corrupt.
		They're old and corrupt, like America or China, Xi Jinping.
		I mean, I love the Chinese people.
		But looking at this, take the Catholic Church, take Pope Benedict.
		I mean, Pope John Paul II, man, I read everything he said.
		I agree with it.
		I'm not a Catholic.
		This guy's anti-communist, pro-family.
		This is good.
		Okay, vicar, you know, vicar of Christ.
		You look at the next guy, well, and then this new guy is like a communist for world government.
		So what do you say about Benedict?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say it's in what you said moments ago.
		The Catholic Church is a human institution on earth, and Catholics have a very specific doctrine.
		They say that there are only certain circumstances under which the Pope is speaking infallibly, when he's actually protected.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ex cathedra, or from the throne.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And there have been popes throughout history that were far worse than Pope Francis.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pope Francis, I'm calling Benedict.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Benedict was the last, you're right, it's Francis, I'm sorry.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, but I mean, you could say that about, there are a lot of popes that were imperfect or, you know, weren't great or whatever, but we believe in the magisterium.
		We believe that the teaching has been uncorrupted and protected from error.
		And you're right.
		I mean, just every human being is going to be fallible.
		Every human being is going to be a sinner, but we can't be indifferent to the doctrine.
		Christians worship the real God.
		Non-Christians don't.
		And that doesn't mean that we don't have things in common with them.
		It doesn't mean that we should not try to achieve mutual understanding.
		It doesn't mean that we should hate them or not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you don't think Jews that were given this and brought forward the three Abrahamic religions, you don't think that on average they're worshiping the same God?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think they're all going to hell because they don't worship Jesus, and I don't like that.
		I wish they would worship Jesus, but it's very clear that the new body of Christ, or rather the new people of God, the new chosen, is the body of Christ.
		It's the church.
		Christ came to fulfill the old commandments, and so now the chosen people are the Christians, the people that partake in the sacrifice with the Eucharist.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there's definitely a UN global war on Christians.
		The UN admits it's record-level attacks on Christians.
		Why do you think that is?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's because Christians, because they have belief in God, cannot be controlled by worldly powers.
		Of course, global government fears religion that they can't control.
		Of course they fear.
		It's just no different than the devil who thinks that he controls the world, who offered Jesus control over the world if only Jesus would bow and worship at his feet.
		It's really that same frustration that the devil had.
		Jesus would not submit to him.
		Christians will not submit to the Antichrist New World Order system.
		That's because we worship God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's totally true.
		That's why they're so pissed.
		I haven't said this yet, but they were dumb enough to do it outside of mediation.
		They just said, just come out against the Republicans and guns and America and we'll leave you alone.
		I'm like, you just did that in non-mediation.
		You just admitted that.
		I mean, they are literally admitting that to me.
		They just want me to give up on my morals and be their slave.
		I can't physically do it, Nick.
		That's why when I get criticized for it, it makes me mad because I may be temporarily distorted through rose-colored darklies, but I am trying to be a good person.
		I'm trying to tell the truth.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I know, and I know that and we know that.
		I mean, everyone that supports me, even when we disagree with you, we all recognize that you are the archetype.
		You created this whole landscape and you couldn't have done that if you were a sellout.
		I mean, you're such a talented person.
		You'd be at CNN, you'd be making, you would be doing, I mean, I know you make a lot of money now, but you'd be doing totally different things than what you've been doing for all these years.
		So I don't think, even in spite of the disagreements, I don't think there's anybody that doesn't respect what you've been doing and the kind of information that you bring.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not about me, Nick, and I appreciate that, but I've been with Roger Ailes, offered the weekend show to have the weeknight show and the book deal and the $20 million a year 15 years ago, and I've been in Hollywood.
		We'll give you all the top roles.
		I thought, well, I thought you put me in a few movies because you like me.
		You called me.
		You want me to sell out.
		That happened.
		So I can tell people that's a very... Skype just broke up.
		That is a very strong point for people.
		Is that the system literally is trying to buy me off.
		Henry Kissinger had the head of his Rothkopf, Reth Rothkopf, the head of his group.
		And that was an on-record meeting.
		That's why I tell it.
		It's not an off-record meeting.
		I don't tell the story.
		Literally tried to buy me off.
		It's not about me with them trying to buy me off.
		They literally did that, folks.
		They literally have tried to get me to sign on and serve them.
		And that's the whole thing.
		People need to know how incredibly real all of this is.
		I mean, Satan is real.
		God is real.
		The New World Order is a real thing coming in, shutting off the farms, shutting off the resources, taking over society, doing all of this.
		This is actually happening.
		We're still trying to get Nick reconnected.
		Just text him.
		We'll do phone if you need to, guys.
		He has his phone up.
		All right, we're gonna get back on.
		So, all I'm trying to say is, when I tell you those stories about them trying to get me to work for them, It isn't to impress you, it's to explain, I know how real this is, because I've had them try to buy me off.
		Henry Kissinger in front of my producer, the oldest employee here, 20 years, John Harmon, and they were so dumb, in front of them they said, come to New York, Henry Kissinger wants to hire you, you're going to do all this, so I can tell people this is real.
		Nikki got cut off, go ahead and comment on that, sorry.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sorry about that technical glitch.
		No, I absolutely agree with you.
		And I think that, as I was just saying before I got cut off there, that you would have been in a very different place because you would have compromised.
		That's what everybody does.
		I think that everybody finds success outside the system and then they're faced with a choice.
		It's the same choice I was faced with.
		You can either be co-opted and you can become a part of the system and actually serve the system.
		It's not even about some kind of complicity.
		It's about actually then going and working for the system, which is what so many people do.
		That's the definition of being co-opted.
		And that's why you've remained independent, which is a far greater struggle.
		It's why you've been subject to these lawsuits.
		It's the same thing that happened to me.
		It's why I've been investigated.
		It's why I've been censored from everything and had to deal with so much nonsense.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And no fly list.
		And by the way, I know that's real, because I got you the lawyer who went and the feds admitted it and took you off it after a year of lawsuits.
		I mean, that was real.
		You were on a no-fly list.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Yeah, when it actually happened, some people were skeptical.
		They said, where's the proof?
		It's like, well, they don't actually, like, call you on the phone and say, hello, you are on the no-fly list.
		They just do it.
		It's totally Kafkaesque.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you showed video at the airport over and over again.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, you can't fly, sir.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's right, yeah, they picked up the phone and they said, yeah, yeah, yada, yada, no fly list.
		I said, what?
		No fly list?
		They said, oh, never mind, because you're actually not supposed to say.
		But you're right, and you generously referred me to Norm Pannis, who helped work through that case, and eventually they took me off the list.
		I was on the Quad S for a long time, major flight restriction, I'm now off that as well.
		But that's just an example of the kind of things that they put you through, that if you don't bow down and submit and then go and put the 666 on your forehead and go to work for them, that's the kind of rigmarole they put you through.
		And it sucks and it's not fair, it makes life harder, but, you know, we have a cross to bear.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So let's say something nice about Israel, like the Chinese people under control of Xi Jinping.
		Netanyahu's got like 20% approval rating.
		They have riots trying to get rid of him.
		All I want is to open a big tent up to Christians, Muslims, Jews, agnostics, Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus.
		Just let's be anti-New World Order.
		Let's be anti-CBDC.
		You get my thing as I'm just trying to say these are the policies I'm against.
		I'm not going to list a group to it.
		Sure, there's groups behind it.
		You get where I'm coming from?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely get where you're coming from on that.
		To say something nice about Israel, I think they're very technologically sophisticated.
		I think they have a strong sense of national identity.
		It's something that we can learn from them.
		They have a strong, they're the only modern country with a high fertility rate, with an above-replacement fertility rate for the religious and non-religious people.
		So, clearly they're doing something right.
		And so I just, I guess to put it succinctly, I wish America had the same prosperity.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, instead of being envious, how about we outperform?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And I want to do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just that... So Nick, when are you going to get a lovely lady and start having some kids?
		It's the best thing ever, brother.
		You're a good-looking guy.
		Come on, you ain't got some girl you're ready to marry?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to get serious soon.
		I'm really focused on what I'm doing.
		When you were my age, you were a Chad.
		You were in the gym.
		You were muscular.
		I'm kind of like a little autistic.
		I have a little more trouble.
		You're like the boomer dad.
		I'm like the autistic zoomer kid.
		It's a generational thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was sure you could get a lot of girls, my friend.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't get yourself down there.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		One of these days, one of these days I'm going to start a big Catholic family and, you know, all our kids will be hanging out, fighting the New World Order.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know the Godfather, he says, he's spending time with your family?
		And he says, yeah, he goes, because a man's not a man once he's spent time with his family.
		I'm telling you, it's the best thing ever.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		100% right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was you, Elon, Trump, the family men.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're gonna go next level, man.
		When you got like three or four kids running around, it's like, something clicks.
		It's crazy.
		I don't know how to describe it.
		It's like, have children.
		Like Elon says, it is like next level, man.
		You're like...
		And now I'm 50 and now I'm thinking about everybody.
		I literally feel like I'm some loving good guy.
		Now I think about society and culture.
		I want to build civilization.
		I want to build, I want to help people.
		It's like become the elder.
		You're already a really smart guy, but when you have children and become the elder, it's the next level.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you are the elder.
		You do have this kind of mature wisdom.
		I think everybody has to respect that.
		You've been around the block.
		And it will happen for me, maybe in the next five years or so.
		I've just been caught out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't saying I'm the grand poobah.
		I'm saying get the woman, go through the hell, have the children.
		If you think you're smart now, the day that first daughter or son comes out of your wife and you're in the hospital, you're going to get hit.
		And all this stuff goes...
		And opens up and you're like, Whoa, like it's the archetypes of Carl Young.
		It opens all this archetypal energy is what I'm trying to say.
		And I want to see you when you're a father because that is going to be the next level.
		All right, we got five minutes left.
		You got the floor.
		I've been interrupting Nick Fuentes.
		What else is on your radar?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess the big thing that's on my radar, not to open up a whole new can of worms or anything, but I'm really looking at this vice presidential race.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned Trump and we'll do it a little bit in the next hour.
		They got to go.
		You got a big secret mission.
		But yeah, talk about the presidential race.
		Talk about, you see, earlier, before we went live, you want to talk about Trump and the trials.
		Go ahead.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So we have this big race now for who's going to be the vice president.
		And I hinted at this a little bit.
		He asked me what I'd do when I was president.
		This is what they're planning to do if Trump wins again, which is this Schedule F reclassification of 50,000 federal employees.
		And there's all sorts of projects right now, American Moment, Project 2025, a number of others.
		And they're trying to put together the personnel that will fill up the next administration.
		It seems that whoever will be the Vice President could have extraordinary power over those hiring and firing personnel decisions.
		So it's actually a much bigger deal than people realize.
		People say, you know, Vice President, what do they even do?
		You know, how is that even important?
		But, you know, Trump is, I love Trump, but he's getting up there in age, and I think that he's a delegator.
		He's a businessman.
		In the last administration, unfortunately, he delegated a lot to Jared Kushner.
		In this administration, I think he'll be delegating a lot to the Vice President.
		All signs point to this Senator J.D.
		Vance from Ohio and I gotta be just like you and me were the first ones to call out the Red Mirage in 2020.
		Once again we're gonna break it on InfoWars.
		I feel like the big thing that I'm worried about to kind of call it out is J.D.
		Vance becoming the VP.
		This guy's bad news.
		He was against Trump in 16.
		He endorsed Evan McMullin.
		He was with American Enterprise Institute which nothing good ever comes out of there.
		I mean, and not to mention the guys totally with Peter Thiel and the guys totally in bed with Palantir and that whole Straussian, very disturbing thing.
		So I'm going to be putting a lot of content out about this on my show and on Twitter and kind of raising awareness for it.
		But I really think that we, we, people like you and I, And the listeners need to start to articulate what we want from Trump, because I feel like in many ways the first term was a missed opportunity.
		I know you were frustrated with it.
		Many people were.
		We have to make sure, because we may get a second chance.
		We can't mess it up again, because we're not going to get a third roll of the dice.
		This second term, there's a lot riding on it.
		We've got to get it right.
		And that's why people like us got to get organized to start to work and I know you and I are but we really got to start to articulate what we want from Trump and I've been saying even to go to the rallies and you know even if we could get chants going and things like that or talk about get the message out on social media we got to start to say what we want from the second term because we didn't really walk away with the time and You know, and I recognize there were reasons for that, but we can't really afford to fumble at a second time, and we'll have a unique opportunity.
		So I'm really looking forward to 2024.
		We got to win in Michigan.
		We got to win in Arizona.
		We got to win in Georgia.
		Those are must-win presidential states.
		We also got to promulgate the message of what 2024 is going to be about.
		It's got to be about building the wall.
		It's got to be about drilling oil.
		It's got to be about averting World War Three.
		And it's got fundamentally to be about completely subverting or uprooting the deep state and all that entrenched power that's in the swamp because If Trump goes in there and doesn't change that like he did in the first term, he will come and go and there will be no evidence that he was ever president.
		Mark my words.
		Because those are the people, it's not the people that write the laws or pass the laws, it's those bureaucrats that enforce the laws.
		They're the ones interpreting and applying it every day.
		If you leave those people and it's the same revolving door for 30 years, they're the ones that are going to determine the future of America.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nick Fuentes, people follow you on Rumble?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How do they do it?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Rumble.com slash NickChiefWentis.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm live there Monday through Friday, so you can subscribe and like the videos there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, great two hours.
		Thanks for the time.
		Be safe.
		Can't wait to hear what's happening next.
		Thank you so much.
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		Thank you.
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