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Dec. 1, 2023 - America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes

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DESANTIS VS NEWSOM GOVERNORS DEBATE | America First Episode 1254DESANTIS VS NEWSOM GOVERNORS DEBATE | America First Episode 1254

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24:56

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22:02

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gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Look, it's an important occasion.
		This is an important conversation, and I think it's important to folks watching.
		They're probably wondering, what are we actually doing here?
		And I want to answer that very directly.
		I'll tell you why I'm here.
		I'm here to tell the truth about the Biden-Harris record and also compare and contrast Ron DeSantis' record and the Republican Party's record as a point of contrast that's as different as daylight and darkness.
		You want to bring us back to a pre-1960s world.
		America in reverse.
		You want to roll back hard-earned national rights, on voting rights, on civil rights, on LGBTQ rights, on women's rights.
		Not just access to abortion, but also access to contraception.
		Why is he making that face?
		weaponized grievance.
		You are focusing on false separateness.
		You in particular, Ron, are on a banning binge, a cultural purge, intimidating and humiliating people you disagree with.
		You and President Trump are really trying to light democracy on fire.
		So, Sean, there are profound differences tonight, and I look forward to engaging.
		But there's one thing in closing that we have in common is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Governor, great opening statement, but it did not address the issue.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Can you explain this migration out of California and going to... You mean the last two years, more Floridians going to California than Californians going to Florida?
		By the way, that's going to be fun to fact check.
		So we'll just start right there.
		California has no peers.
		California dominates.
		Size of 21 state populations combined.
		It's the fifth largest economy in the world.
		We dominate.
		Number one manufacturing state.
		We dominate in two-way trade and research and development.
		Access to innovation.
		More scientists, more researchers, more engineers, more Nobel laureates in the state of California than any other state in the nation.
		The finest system of higher education.
		It's the birthplace of life science and biotech and nanotechnology.
		We dominate in green tech.
		We dominate in high tech.
		We dominate in artificial intelligence.
		So with respect, I think it's an interesting campaign strategy for Ron DeSantis to be bashing a state of 40 million Americans when California simply has no peers.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a pretty slick way of not answering your question.
		He went on a binge of putting out a lot of left-wing platitudes.
		Here's what I would say.
		I talked to a lot of the people that have moved from California to Florida, and we never used to get people from California to Florida, or really anywhere in the East Coast.
		Why would you leave California?
		It's got the best weather, great natural... Ron, Ron, twice... Excuse me, sir.
		But one of the things that I did, I was talking to a gentleman, a couple... Guys, guys, I'm going to let the debate breathe, but it's his turn.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let's take turns.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		So I was talking to a fella who had made the move from California to Florida, and he was telling me that Florida is much better governed, safer, better budget, lower taxes, all this stuff, and he's really happy with the quality of life.
		And then he paused and he said, you know, by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father-in-law.
		So we do count Gavin's in-laws as some of the people that have fled California and come to the state of Florida.
		And why are we getting people to come?
		We have a 50-year low in the crime rate.
		You don't see in the last 10 years, we've had a 45% decline in homelessness.
		California's had a 45% increase in homelessness.
		We back the blue.
		I was walking the streets of San Francisco a couple months ago and I had some of the cops Let me move on.
		There's no audience.
		do a beeline to come over to me.
		And I didn't know what they were going to say.
		And they're like, we want to thank you for standing for law enforcement because we don't get that support in the state of California.
		So people understand the quality of life matters.
		They understand that Florida is doing it right.
		And I can tell you the numbers speak for themselves.
		We have way more people moving to this state than leaving.
		Gavin can't say the opposite.
		More people are leaving California than are moving into California.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let me bring up coming to California the other way around the last two years.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about crime.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Governor, wait a minute.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Hold on a second.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		He said a lot of things that were factually untrue, including that 50 year crime law, which his own law enforcement team said should not be using.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		You have yet to address the issue, but I asked you twice.
		You don't want to answer it.
		But the issue of why the migration out of red states, I'm sorry, out of blue states.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		We just established more Floridians coming to California in the last It's a fact.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not a fact.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		It is a fact.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You didn't establish it.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You just asserted it.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It's a fact.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not a fact.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It is a fact.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Moving on.
		Let's go.
		Your states have vastly different income tax rates.
		Okay.
		It is what it is.
		These are the facts.
		California's highest rate for top earners, 13%.
		How can this be a fair debate if Sean Hannity's a moderate rate?
		In California, earning a median income of $84,000, they have a 6% income tax in the state of California.
		Florida's income tax rate is 0% across all salaries, but it goes beyond income taxes.
		Property taxes are lower in California, but everything else is higher.
		Let's take a look at the numbers.
		These are the facts.
		The average property tax in California, .75%.
		Florida, .91%.
		Sales tax, California, 7.25%.
		Florida, 6%.
		Gas tax rate, California, 77 cents a gallon.
		That is a low estimate.
		It's up to a dollar when you include mandatory fees.
		And in Florida, it's 35 cents.
		Corporate income tax, California, 8.84%.
		Florida, 5.5%.
		Governor Newsom, this is your question.
		Let me ask you.
		Obviously, you support a different philosophy, which is higher taxes.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		No, hold on.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		This is a tax question, Governor.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		This is a very different approach, and I agree with you completely.
		He has one of the most regressive tax rates in the United States of America.
		It's the number three most regressive state in America.
		And what that means is simply this.
		Who does he tax?
		He taxes low-income workers more than we tax millionaires and billionaires in the state of California.
		The question is a simple one.
		Who, Ron, are you for?
		It's a factual lie that the state of California's high tax has the highest tax rate.
		But for whom?
		And it's a foundational and fundamental difference.
		You look at states like Texas, overwhelming majority of Texans pay more taxes than the state of California.
		So, again, it's who you're for.
		And I think those values matter.
		And I appreciate you bringing up the issue of taxes.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		How many people leave Florida to go to California because they pay less taxes?
		I've not seen that.
		Are people going from Florida to New York because they pay less taxes?
		Of course not.
		They come to Florida because they pay lower taxes.
		We don't even have an income tax and yet California has a higher sales tax than we do and that's one of the things that we do.
		But here's the thing.
		And I'll give Gavin credit.
		He did at least admit in his first answer, he's joined at the hip with Biden and Harris.
		He thinks Biden and Harris have done a great job.
		He thinks the economy is working because of their policies for Americans, and they are not.
		And so what California represents is the Biden-Harris agenda on steroids.
		They would love nothing more than to get four more years to be able to take the California model nationally.
		That would be disastrous for working people.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about working people.
		They pay more in your state than the state of California charges for billionaires and millionaires.
		And it's just a value proposition.
		It's a fact.
		Again, you can't make these things up.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You have six or seven dollar a gallon gas.
		How do they afford that?
		These are folks that are blue collar people.
		You're going to force everybody to buy an electric vehicle.
		How are they going to be able to afford electric vehicles if you're working class people?
		And I think the thing about California, they have one of the highest inequality rates because, yeah, they've got Silicon Valley billionaires, they've got a lot of very wealthy people, they've got a lot of people that are on government assistance, but they've hollowed out their middle class.
		That's who's been leaving California.
		They've been leaving in other places.
		They go to Arizona, they go to Nevada, they go to all these places.
		Just like Biden is hollowing out this country.
		That's what they're doing in California.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Ron, I'm happy that you continue to talk.
		Let's talk a little bit about Bidenomics, because I'm happy to take that on right now as well.
		And I think it's a fair point.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You're a big supporter of it.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate you acknowledging that.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		14 million jobs, 10 times more than the last three Republican presidents combined.
unidentified		Because he had a hundred fifteen thousand manufacturing jobs.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Because the jobs were because of the COVID.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding me?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		3.9 percent unemployment.
		As he continues to talk over me, I'll talk to the American people.
		3.9% unemployment.
		The lowest black unemployment in American history.
		The lowest unemployment for Hispanics in American history.
		The lowest unemployment for women in 70 years.
		The lowest black poverty rates in history.
		That's this administration's agenda.
		And by the way, as you smile and smirk over there, you should know this, the American people.
		Here's a guy who celebrated Bidenomics just this week, celebrating $28 million that came into your state because of the Chips and Science Act, one of the most significant economic plans since FDR.
		I'm proud of the work Biden and Harris have done.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Would you like to respond?
		And I do have a follow-up.
		The 6% rate on people, families, a couple in California, they pay 6% income tax on $84,000 a year.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		That's what he does.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I didn't ask about Florida.
unidentified		He is spinning lies to be able to try to cover for his fault.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		That's a lie.
		California has lower taxes, lower than 32 states for working families in the middle class.
		Significantly lower taxes than places like Texas.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		So you support that?
		That's what you said.
		You support a 6% income tax for people?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'm against, I'm against regressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires over working families and the working poor.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		People in a state pay more taxes on the low end than we tax people.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		How does paying $7 a gallon gas help working people?
		That doesn't help working people at all.
		How does paying an 8% sales tax help working people?
		That doesn't help working people at all.
		They have the highest taxes in the nation, people flee to be able to save money to get out of California, and you have working class people that move to these other states, their dollars go much further.
		But here's the thing, they want to take this Bidenomics and they want to double down on this for the next four years.
		How many people are able to afford groceries now compared to what you were doing three or four years ago?
		I talked to people, you know, I talked to a woman who had a cart full of groceries going in and they're ringing it up and it got to be so expensive she has to take a lot of the stuff out.
		That didn't used to be the case.
		People used to be able to work hard and get ahead.
		That is not true under Joe Biden.
unidentified		And you know what, Sean, one more final thing.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		California's unemployment rate is 60% higher than Florida's unemployment rate.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Our unemployment rate is 2.8%.
unidentified		That dovetails into my next question, Governor.
unidentified		Why?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Because it's a command and control economy.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		They have a political agenda that they're pursuing.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask that question.
		Honor with a question of jobs.
		I think it's important.
		You know what?
		That affects everybody.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		By the way, the Biden administration in the last three years has been a massive box of job creation.
		Is Joe Biden paying you tonight?
		3.9% unemployment.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I thought this was state versus state.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		But it's about the United States of America.
		I thought this guy was running for president of the United States.
		You are too.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You just won't admit it.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You're running for a third term.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You just won't admit it.
		You will not admit it.
		Why don't you just admit that you're running?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we can't talk.
		I'm going to move on to the next question.
		The unemployment rate.
		In Florida, right now, it's just 2.8%, as you stated.
		And California ranks second worst in the country at 4.8%.
		Hold on, this question goes to Governor DeSantis, and then you'll have a chance to respond.
		Governor DeSantis.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, right.
		I mean, they tax too much.
		They regulate too much.
		They have a political agenda.
		It's not a good climate for business.
		They've lost a lot of companies.
		A lot of companies have moved to Texas.
		We have had some to Florida, but they've lost a lot of companies to Texas because they're not doing a good job looking out for folks and not creating a good business environment.
		And, you know, when I have people that come to Florida, they tell me, you know, you guys actually want us to succeed in Florida.
		And they feel like when they're in California, they don't want business to succeed and all that stuff.
		Well, actually, yeah.
		I think that's an interesting point with Disney, because I had Disney open during COVID, and we made them a fortune, and we saved a lot of jobs.
		You had Disney closed, inexplicably, for over a year.
		You were not following science.
		You were a lockdown governor.
		You did a lot of damage to your people.
		You had more kids locked out of school for a longer period of time in California than anywhere else in the country.
		It was the working class kids.
		It was the middle income kids.
		His kids were in private school.
		They were in class in person.
unidentified		He locked people out because of the teacher's union.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		He is owned by the teacher's union.
		You will never cross the teacher's union.
		Lock, stock and barrel.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about COVID.
		Let's talk about your reckoning on COVID.
		You passed an emergency declaration before the state of California did.
		You closed down your beaches, your bars, your restaurants.
		False.
		It's a fact.
		You had quarantines.
		You had checkpoints all over the state of Florida.
		By the way, I didn't say that.
		Donald Trump laid you out on this.
		Dead to right.
		You did that.
		You followed science.
		You followed Fauci.
		He followed science.
		He followed Fauci.
		You were promoting vaccines.
		You were promoting vaccines.
unidentified		You even wore a mask in September, Sean.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		If it's okay with you, we'll do this.
unidentified		Why don't we do this in a way where we both can have opportunity?
unidentified		You wore a mask with Donald Trump outside in September 2020.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		He did all of that until...
		He decided to fall prey to the fringe of his party.
		And as a consequence of that, Ron, tens of thousands of people lost their lives.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		The equivalent, if I had your policies, the equivalent of ten 9-11s.
		Tens of thousands of people lost their lives.
		And for what, Ron?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Those are more lies.
		In fact, the Lancet just did a study Florida had a lower standardized COVID death rate than California did.
		That's a land study.
		One more thing.
		One more thing.
		The other thing we had, the other thing California had, California had higher excess mortality than California.
		Let me talk about the excess mortality real quick.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, hold on a second.
		I want to ask you both.
		Slow down.
		I want everyone to be heard.
		If I can ask you, I really do want this to breathe.
		I want this debate to breathe.
		I want it to organically develop.
		To do that, I need both your cooperation.
		I don't want to be a hall monitor.
		It's not my style, alright?
		You mentioned COVID.
		Let me go to COVID.
		And I plan to bring this up later, but you both took very different approaches as it comes to COVID.
		Governor Newsom, you issued the nation's first stay at home order on March 19th of 2020.
		Governor DeSantis, you took a lot of heat for reopening schools.
		You opened schools in Florida in August of 2020.
		All right, so here's the data, which I think is important.
		This is where the facts come in.
		Your state's death rates were almost identical.
		This is factually Hold on.
		And by the way, both your states, with such different approaches, which is pretty fascinating, were both lower, significantly lower, than the national average.
		These numbers come straight from the CDC.
		So, Governor Newsom, how do you explain that?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Per capita death rates in the state of Florida were 29%, 29% per capita higher.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		That's not what the stats say right there.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		That's not what the stats say.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Tens of thousands of people unnecessarily died.
unidentified		Don't lie about it.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		He put the graphic up there.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Don't lie about it.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to lie about it.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Just understand.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to lie about it.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You were a lockdown governor.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		One at a time, Gavin Newsom, finish your thought.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You locked down your beaches, bars, and restaurants.
		That's just a fact.
		He's running away from his record.
		He's running away from the fact.
		Tens of thousands of people died unnecessarily because he caved.
		You saw the CDC numbers.
		It's 29% higher.
		Death rate in the state of Florida versus the state of California.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Quick response, Governor.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You showed us the stats.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		The stats are very clear.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		One at a time.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		On a per capita age-adjusted basis, California and Florida basically the same.
		Now, why is that important?
		Because Gavin Newsom did huge damage to people in California.
		He ruined livelihoods.
		We reopened the state very quickly.
		We saved thousands of jobs.
		We saved hundreds of thousands of jobs.
		Thousands of businesses.
		We had our kids in school.
		He had the kids locked out of school because of the teachers union.
		That is having a generational impact.
		California has one of the lowest literacy rates in the country.
		In the most recent NAEP exam, Florida came in number three for fourth grade reading.
		California was far, far behind.
		So you should apologize for not getting your kids in school.
		Why didn't you get the kids in school in the summer of 2020 like we did?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		We've got to take a break.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You didn't do the job you should have done.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		The only person who needs to apologize is Ron DeSantis for the tens of thousands of lives that died unnecessarily because he played to the fringe of his party.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		We've got to take a break.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Finish your thought.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		No, and when it comes to the issue of schools, you better be careful.
		You had more learning loss during COVID than the national average in the state of California.
		Without, it's a fact.
		More learning loss.
		Your economy contracted more in 2020.
		Quick break.
		Expanded slower than California in 2021.
		More to come on this topic.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		More to come on this debate.
		It's been rather dull at the start, but anyway, we've got a lot to get to.
		Coming up, many important topics that we're going to be talking about, including one issue where you might find some agreement, actually, as we continue the blue state, red state debate.
		We are live.
		We are in Alpharetta, Georgia.
		thank you for being with us.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		This is very bizarre.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Very bizarre because they have no audience.
unidentified		Napoleon is the number one movie in the world.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This.
		So what is this?
		I don't understand what this is.
		I don't know why anyone agreed to do this.
		It just really makes no sense.
		I don't know what the point is.
		I mean, because DeSantis is arguing like this is a presidential debate, but it isn't.
		He's in there saying, well, I'm glad you acknowledge that you support Biden and Harris.
		It's like, who are you talking to?
		Who are you talking to?
		Like, this isn't, you're not running for president.
		Well, I mean, you are, but not against Newsom.
		Although some say that he actually is.
		So I just don't understand who he's talking to.
		Is he talking to people in California?
		People in California voted for Biden and Harris.
		I'm glad he acknowledges that he supports the Biden-Harris economy.
		Who is that supposed to appeal to?
unidentified		Who are you trying to win over with that?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Liberal Democrats in California?
		And you're not even, you're not running for the governor of California.
		So, I think it's weird.
		It's weird that they don't have a studio audience.
		It's weird that Sean Hannity is hosting it.
		I don't know why Newsom would agree to that.
		It's obviously two versus one.
		And, uh... Yeah, so this whole thing is just bizarre.
		And DeSantis is weird, man.
		I don't know what that is, but you can tell he clearly is autistic.
		Or something.
		There's something going on there.
		He's making these faces.
		Every time he's not talking, he's like doing, he's like this.
		He's like... It's like, what is that?
		Why is he making it?
		You know, just, just stand there.
		Can you just chill?
		Can you just be there?
		I mean, and it's, it's not even when the camera's not on him, because the camera's on him the whole time.
		When they do the split screen, but he's not talking, Newsom's doing the answer and DeSantis is standing there like this.
		What is that?
		So this is a big mistake for DeSantis.
		It's just a weird, this is a weird venue and I would imagine the viewership is not good.
		The viewership on the presidential debates isn't good.
		The viewership on the primary debates has been very bad.
		This last one, almost nobody watched it on television.
		So I can't imagine what this is going to be.
		It's not even like this is big PR, or like this is, maybe he thought this would be some publicity, but this isn't even publicity.
		Nobody's even watching this.
		So, very bizarre.
		Set up here obviously the thing is I um I agree with DeSantis but I like Newsom more.
		I know it's sort of contrarian to say uh you know we like Newsom but I'm not in favor of high taxes and lockdowns and all that stuff and and honestly I think DeSantis Is a good governor as much as I don't want him to be the president as much as I think he's a shill and I have my issues with him.
		I think he's very articulate.
		I think he is intelligent and he shines during the debates because that's clearly his strong suit.
		Clearly he's he's not really a he's not a good politician because he's not socially all the way there.
		Clearly there's some disconnect but he's a big nerd for the numbers and for policy and the whole administrative process.
		He knows what he's talking about obviously.
		The last debate this one but I just don't like him I think he's so uncool and lame and of course I don't like him for opposing Trump.
		But, but that's this debate.
		I want to see, because I know other people are covering this.
		I saw Crowder's watching.
		I wonder what his thoughts are.
unidentified		No, no, I just I feel like you're messing with me at this point.
		No, you won't.
		I'm sure things will pick up soon.
		No, you won't.
		You won't see things pick up soon.
		Because you're at the wrong place.
		I'll go to Georgia.
		No, you're not going to Georgia.
		You're not going to make it there at all.
		I know you won't.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So we got some kind of a comedy routine there.
		What else is on Rumble?
		Oh, we got Sneeko!
		What's he doing?
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He's somewhere.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Laura Loomer!
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I guess we're back?
		Okay, and we're back.
		...seekers at the border since President Biden took office.
		The administration says, well, they don't know how many people actually are in the country illegally.
		Gentlemen, the American people, I ask you, I believe it's your turn, Governor Newsom, have the American people on the issue of borders, you're defending the Biden administration.
		They're saying the border is secure.
		They're saying the border is closed.
		Those are the numbers from our own border patrol.
		Are the American people being lied to?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they're being lied to.
		The Biden administration put out a comprehensive plan day one when he got sworn into office three years ago.
		And the Republican Party didn't touch it.
		They haven't moved on it.
		They play politics with us.
		And I'll be honest with you, I think there's probably one person I wouldn't listen to on this topic more than the guy that I'm standing next to, Ron DeSantis.
		He is absolutely, he lacks any credibility on the issue of immigration.
		When he was in Congress, he supported amnesty.
		When he's in Congress, you supported John Boehner's bill.
unidentified		It's a fact.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		When you were in Congress you supported Obama's efforts to advance comprehensive reform.
		The last guy you want to talk to on the issue of immigration.
		Your immigration policy can best be described as a governor from the state of Florida going into another state, the state of Texas, lying to migrants, promising them jobs and housing, sending them to an island, Martha's Vineyard, and then sending them to a parking lot in Sacramento, California.
		I met with those migrants that you lied to under false pretense.
		That kind of gamesmanship, using human beings as pawns, I think is disqualifying.
		So again, a guy who stands here, who's been out on the Republican debate stage, saying, well, he's going to be tough, he's going to shoot people with backpacks, and that he has a strategy to potentially even invade our second largest trading partner, Mexico, that has a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the Obama administration, is the last guy to be standing on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what, it's deja vu all over again with that flurry of lies.
		This is a guy that says the Biden administration is not lying to the public about the border.
		They go to the White House briefing room every day.
		They say the border's secure.
		They are lying to you.
		We know that that's not true.
		Gavin Newsom is lying to you when he says somehow I supported these things, which I didn't do.
		He's also lying to you about what it's going to take to solve this problem.
		California is a sanctuary state.
		They thumb their nose at federal immigration law.
		And this has real consequences.
		There was an illegal alien, Herbert Nixon Flores, who was in L.A., in custody.
		He was a repeat criminal.
		ICE wanted to take him into custody because then they would be able to deport him.
		L.A.
		refuses to work with ICE, and so they wouldn't turn him over.
		They end up releasing him on the street.
		He ends up murdering the mother of a three-year-old little girl.
		Those policies are deadly.
		They do not work.
		And I'll tell you this, the Martha's Vineyard transport, Martha's Vineyard said it was a sanctuary jurisdiction.
		Kind of reminds me about Gavin Newsom, when he restricted Californians, then he went to the French Laundry.
		These liberal elites, they like to impose burdens on you.
		They don't want to have to face the consequences of their actions.
		So we've got a lot of elites who want open borders, who lecture everybody else about it, and the minute they have to deal with any of the consequences, oh man, all hell breaks loose.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		We're moving to the next question.
unidentified		On the same topic.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		On the same topic, this is important.
		This is a very important question.
		While some migrants I know want to come to America for a better life for themselves and their family, find the American dream, I totally sympathize with them.
		Many good people fleeing very bad situations abroad.
		But others are abusing the asylum process and in the process in search of where they're coming from.
		We're now learning that many are coming from some of our top geopolitical foes.
		Countries with little to no vetting or people that are coming in.
		They're not being vetted.
		Look at these numbers.
		Between October 2021, October 2023, border agents encountered 6,386 nationals from Afghanistan, 3,153 from Egypt, 659 from Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, 538 from Syria, 12,605 from Russia, 12,605 from Russia, and a whopping 26,113 from China.
		Now, my question, the next question goes to you, Governor Newsom.
		What are the odds that Biden's open borders have allowed terrorists and terror cells unvetted into this country?
		Is that a clear and present danger to every American?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		The odds are 100%.
		Of course our enemies are going to take advantage of this.
		He opened the border.
		He's violating his oath of office to take care that the laws are faithfully executed.
		He's knowingly having 8 million come in.
		And yes, there's criminal aliens, there are terrorists, there's a lot of fentanyl.
		We've had tens of thousands of fentanyl deaths.
		I've met a lot of angel parents who have lost kids to fentanyl overdose.
		And the problem is, you'll have a college kid that may take some pill not knowing that there's fentanyl in it.
		And then right there, that can be fatal.
		They're poisoning our people.
		And Joe Biden is sitting on his hands.
		He refuses to take care of the border.
		He refuses to hold the drug cartels accountable.
		This is the vision of Biden, Harris, Newsom.
		Open borders.
		Americans suffer and Americans continue to die because of fentanyl overdose.
		There will be, unfortunately, a terrorist attack at some point that we'll be able to trace back to our southern borders.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		God forbid.
		By the way, do you see that risk, Governor Newsom?
		Hold on.
		I mean, do you see the risk?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden put out not only a comprehensive plan, he consistently puts up plans.
		Hold on a minute, Sean.
		Is there a risk?
		I'm going to answer your question.
		I support border security.
		I think the asylum system is broken.
		I understand that.
unidentified		Let's go.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'm the only guy here that's a border state governor.
		You're trolling folks and trying to find migrants to play political games, try to get some news and attention so you can out-Trump Trump.
		And by the way, how's that going for you, Ron?
		You're down 41 points in your own home state.
		On the issue of immigration, Joe Biden put a $14 billion immigration package up in front of Congress, $2,300.
		2,300 border agents, as well as customs officials.
		1,000 new law enforcement officers to deal with the fentanyl issue.
		By the way, that's a major issue in your state.
		41% higher overdose rates than the state of California.
		And here's what I haven't heard.
		Not a peep.
		From Ron DeSantis.
		They want to demagogue this issue.
		They want to play politics with this issue.
		You don't want to solve this issue.
		Why don't you lead your party and support that $14 billion?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
		I have a follow-up.
		Governor Newsom, I appreciate your answer.
		You have mentioned comprehensive immigration reform many times.
		It's not happened under Joe Biden.
		I don't think it's going to happen next year.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		He put a detailed plan and Republicans in Congress refused to act on it.
unidentified		It takes Congress to work with the administration.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		With all of these millions and millions of people coming into this country unvetted, the question was and remains, is this a clear and present danger?
		From the countries I put up on the screen, is that a clear and present danger to America?
		And what do you do in the interim?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		That's why the President of the United States put a $14 billion package in front of Congress they can act on today.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		And what would that package do?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		What do you support?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		You support a border wall?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'm almost out of time.
		Before the break.
		Does it worry you?
		package presidents put forward that includes 2,300 border agents and customs officials.
		By the way, also includes $850 million in new technology for border security.
		You hear nothing from Ron De Santos.
		You hear nothing, Sean, respectfully.
		You hear nothing from the Republican Party.
		They play politics.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I'm almost out of time before the break.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		The president put the plan up to address the anxiety around security.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask the question another way.
		Does it worry you that our top geopolitical foes, the number one state sponsor of terror, Iran, China, Russia, Afghanistan, Syria, that they're at our southern border.
		You're a border state governor.
		Does that concern you at all?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		That's a lie!
		National Guard.
		Why would I just increase it by 50% on the largest port in the Western Hemisphere in my state?
		I mean, this guy has no record.
		I mean, the fact that you supported amnesty, the fact that you supported Obama's reforms, those are facts.
		They're just simple facts.
		The fact that your greatest contribution, Ron, to this debate is shooting people in backpacks.
		And that's so inhumane.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I don't mind him lying to me.
		I don't mind Gavin lying to me, but I do mind him lying to you.
		He is sitting there saying that Joe Biden is willing to solve this problem.
		Is there anybody out there that actually believes this?
		Joe Biden created this problem.
		So if he's willing to lie to you about that, you know he's lying to you about all these other facts and figures about all this other stuff.
		He's just throwing stuff out to see what sticks against the wall.
		This is a slick, slippery politician whose state is failing, people are leaving his state, and he's trying to run interference for his failure.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		We've got to take our second When we come back, we have a lot more ground to cover.
		Quick break, we have a lot of ground to cover.
		More with Governors DeSantis and Newsom.
		The great blue-red state debate as we continue from Alpharetta, Georgia.
		Again, thank you for being with us.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Boring and weird debate.
		That was awesome, though.
		He totally... That's the clip.
		That's the soundbite.
		That Newsome tore him a new asshole.
		Hey, how's that going for you, by the way?
		That was so funny.
		How's that going for you?
		He says.
		Huh, troll?
		Trolls and moral fags.
		W moral fag.
		W moral fag Gavin Newsome.
		Let's check in with Rob.
unidentified		Ronald Reagan is the one who really kind of opened the floodgates for How is that even possible?
		Literally open the stream.
		Ronald Reagan, at least he's criticizing him, I guess.
		out to the left.
		It's very easy.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Literally, literally open the stream.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Ronald Reagan, at least he's criticizing him, I guess.
unidentified		To be made out, to be dispassionate.
		You see that a lot.
		Don't allow it.
		Just like, look, I'm compassionate for the people in my country right now.
		Sorry.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why does he look?
		Dude, what is, what is going on with this face?
		Why does he look like shit?
unidentified		Sign the guest book.
		We're full up.
		There's no vacancy unless you come here legally.
		Do not shy away from it.
		Lean into it.
		The only person who does that right now is Donald Trump.
		But DeSantis is doing a really, really good job.
		We're going to go really quickly to a commercial break so we can actually use the restroom.
		I think, yeah, beautiful differences.
		Lateralscatter.com slash MugClub.
		Once they're gone, they are gone.
		Keep it down a lower third so we all know when this stream comes back.
		Nick DiPaolo, Gerald Morgan.
		Go to the break!
		Yeah!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		They're on a break too?
		How are you on a break?
		You're not even a network.
unidentified		Boomer!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Boomer's on a break too?
		Is everyone on a break?
		What the fuck was that?
		Oh, that he ate pudding with his fingers.
unidentified		I was like, what the fuck?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to see that!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to see that!
unidentified		What the fuck?
		Ew!
		Gross!
		What?
		What is going on?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Where are we?
		This is the weirdest night ever.
		This debate is weird.
		Crowder's got freaking AIDS face.
unidentified		Someone's eating shit off their hands.
		Jeez.
		Weird.
		Weird day today.
		You know, in less than eight weeks, he's sleeping through the night.
		Our guy Elijah Schaefer, he looks good, man.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He looks really good.
		He lost weight.
		Love the haircut.
		He's an Aryan super soldier.
unidentified		Yeah, dude.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What are we going to do here?
unidentified		Dude, I just can't.
		Is it just me?
		I just can't with the skits.
		Is the pudding thing over?
		Can that please be over?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, looks like it's over.
		Where's our volume?
		I just can't.
		Is it just me?
		I just can't with the skits.
		Is the pudding thing over?
		Can that please be over?
		Okay, it looks like it's over.
		Where's our volume?
		Muted.
unidentified		Oh, she's eating pudding now.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I can't watch someone, I can't watch somebody eat pudding.
		I don't know why that grosses me out.
		The thought of someone doing that just freaks me out right now.
		I just can't.
		I don't, I actually don't really want to watch Laura Loomer eat pudding at the moment.
		I can't, after that advertisement, I can't be watching any of that.
unidentified		No!
		No!
		Stop!
		Stop!
		What in the world?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you know what?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Let's just go back.
unidentified		Is this debate back or what?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What the f... Dude, conservatives are so weird.
		I love Laura, but she is, like, part of the conservative movement, and conservatives are so weird about stuff like that.
		That's such, like, a prototypical thing that conservatives would do, like, get hung up on DeSantis eating pudding with his fingers and then, like, make something really weird and gross about it as a joke.
		It's like the Biden farts thing, you know?
		Remember when Steven Crowder did Biden farts?
		I don't know why.
		Like, why are they like that?
		I would never make... They always want to cross-dress or... You know what I'm talking about?
		They'll do like these funny skits and they're always cross-dressing or doing other weird stuff.
		I would never do stuff like that.
		I would... My instinct is to never do stuff like that.
		And yet they love that.
		They do it all the time.
unidentified		Okay, what else?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is this, uh...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Rumble's goofing, goofing goof right now.
unidentified		What the flip?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why is this not loading?
unidentified		Hello?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What the flip?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is it just me or is Rumble down or something?
unidentified		Bruh!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Um... Okay?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		...numbers violent crime nationally for each of your states.
		Keep in mind this statistic shows what is the combined rate of homicide, rape, robbery, aggravated assault the year 2022.
		On the national level, the rate was 380.7 offenses per 100,000 people.
		ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, THE RATE WAS 380.7 OFFENSES PER 100,000 PEOPLE.
		IN CALIFORNIA, MEANWHILE, THE RATE WAS MUCH HIGHER, 499.5 OFFENSES PER 100,000.
		IN FLORIDA, LOWER, 258.9 OFFENSES PER 100,000.
		Governor Newsom, let me start with you.
		Your numbers are way higher than the national average.
		How do you explain that when safety and security, I would argue, is a prerequisite for the pursuit of happiness?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Well, I couldn't agree with you more.
		We're near 50-year lows, down 55% violent crimes in the state of California from the 1990s.
		And I want to compare and contrast that with the issue in Florida that you didn't mention, and that's the murder rate.
		And let's broaden it more broadly.
		The issue is, seven of the top ten murder rates in the United States of America are red states.
		He has a 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California.
		He has a higher murder rate.
		Go to places like Jacksonville.
		Go to places like Orlando.
		Go to places like Tampa.
		The murder rate is off the charts compared to cities like San Francisco.
		And you know what?
		Even more egregiously, Sean, and I think this is important, the American people deserve an answer from you, Ron.
		You had one of the worst mass shootings in American history, Parkland.
		17 kids were gunned down.
		Lives lost.
		17 others, lives torn asunder.
		You had a young girl by the name of Jamie Guttenberg, whose father pleaded with you to do something about it.
		And you know what you did?
		You did the exact opposite.
		You made it easier for felons to get guns without background checks, without any training.
		These people pleaded with you, parents and the families, to get tough on gun safety.
		And again, you made it easier for felons.
		He said of you, Ron, and I agree with him.
		After you signed that concealed carry bill, which increases the likelihood, Fred Guttenberg said, of more Jamies losing their lives and more Parklands, he called you weak, pathetic, and small.
		So with respect, I appreciate you're talking to police officers in the state of California.
		You may want to spend a little bit more time, not on the Ohio Trail, but other places across this country.
		You may spend a little more time back in your home state and address the murder and gun violence in your own backyard.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		So this is the slick politician.
		You put up the rates.
		He has 500 per 100,000.
		Florida is 250.
		So that's almost twice as much.
		And he's trying to spin that to say California's doing good?
		People are leaving California in droves largely because public safety has collapsed.
		I mean, when Californians come to Florida, one of the things they'll say, it's almost like an out-of-body experience.
		They can go to the store, get toothpaste off the shelf, pay for it, and leave because in a lot of these places in California, everything's under lock and key because they basically legalized retail theft.
		They have chosen in California to put the interests of the criminals over public safety.
		They're easier on sex offenders.
		They're easier on all these crimes that are leading to a collapse in the quality of life.
		And if you just walk around San Francisco, you will see, and I think it's interesting, Gavin Newsom was mayor of San Francisco.
		So he took the San Francisco model, turned that into a template for California's collapse.
		Now the left wants to take the California model and use that as a template for America's collapse.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		THE BORDER RATE IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, TO COMPARE TO SAN FRANCISCO IS 126.
		In Orlando, it's 84% higher.
		In Tampa, it's 75% higher.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about when it comes to this?
		You're just jabbering.
		I know you like to jabber.
		I know you like to lie.
		Anytime you're uncomfortable, he puts the statistics up there.
		Your crime is higher.
		We know your crime is higher.
unidentified		Gentlemen, what are you doing about the gun murder rate in your state?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		We'll let the audience look at the FBI numbers and decide.
		According to the Gun Control Advocacy Group, every town for gun safety.
		California has the most, as you support, I know Governor, restrictive gun laws in the United States.
		Florida has the 19th most restrictive.
		Yet, if you look at the year 2019, when each of you took office, California has had 21 mass shootings, Florida has had 9.
		Now, that is according to a USA Today, AP, Northeastern University database, data.
		Keep in mind, a mass killing is defined as the intentional killing of four or more victims, excluding the deaths of unborn children and the offenders by any means within a 24-period of time.
		I believe, Governor DeSantis, you get this first.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		What California wants to do is they want to make it harder for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, then they go easy on the criminals who are perpetrating the crime.
		They don't stand up for the men and women of law enforcement.
		That's why a lot of people have left the state, because they don't get the support from the communities that they need.
		And, you know, Gavin told another lie.
		He said we made it easier for felons to do.
		Felons are not allowed to possess firearms.
		That's federal law.
		That's been long-standing.
		No background check.
unidentified		That's an absolute lie that he's saying like that.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		That has nothing to do with buying or purchasing a weapon.
		So that's just a lie, another lie that's coming up.
		But here's the thing.
		People are leaving California in droves because he has failed to stand up for public safety.
		They are on an ideological joyride to let people out of prison early, to go easy on them.
		Heck, your buddy, Gavin's buddy in Los Angeles, Gascon, he doesn't even prosecute.
		When you have, when I was in Southern California for the Reagan debate, a lot of the women tell me they have to take off all their jewelry just to be able to go shopping, because otherwise they're going to get mugged.
		That is the reality that people are facing in California.
		Gavin can try to put lipstick on that pig, but the fact of the matter is, he has failed the people of California.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I love this guy talking about backing the blue when you dangled pardons for January 6 insurrectionists, 85 of them that were literally charged with attacking law enforcement.
		You talk a big game about backing the blue.
		With all due respect to the crime rate, again, he's not answering the fact that he has a higher murder rate than the state of California, a 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California, and I can easily answer this point, gun safety saves lives.
		I don't think it, I know it, and the data bears that out in the state of California.
		California proudly does lead in terms of common sense gun safety.
		Common sense gun safety saves lives.
		You had the chance to do something meaningful, you had a chance to do something on behalf of those Parkland families, You did the exact opposite.
		You moved in the exact opposite direction.
		With all due respect, look at your own backyard, Ron.
		You're not mining your backyard on this issue.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I will do that because we have some of the we had two radical left Soros district attorneys like your buddy Gascogne in L.A., one in Tampa, one in Orlando.
		They were endangering the public and I removed them from their post.
		Gavin Newsom has not lifted a finger to rein in Gascogne in L.A.
		That that city has collapsed.
		That county's collapsed.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Don't don't.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		He is not enforcing the law.
		So that's just a great American.
		This is what's happening.
		That's just a little bit of a time in Philadelphia, Baltimore.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		15 seconds.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		We've got to go break.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
		I mean, you're running for President of the United States, you're talking down the great state of California, you're talking down one of the great American cities, Los Angeles.
		That's insulting.
		And you're doing it because you're trying to obfuscate the facts that you have a higher murder rate in the state of Florida than the state of California.
		We have some of the lowest crime rates we've had in 50 years.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll have more with Governor DeSantis, Governor Gavin Newsom on the other side as we continue the great state debate, blue versus red.
		There's hardly any differences.
		A lot of ground to cover.
		Thank you for being here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What is this, like three breaks in an hour?
		A break every 15 minutes?
		Three breaks in 50 minutes.
		Alright, well, boring.
		Boring!
		Yeah, yeah, yeah, we agree.
		Guns are cool.
		Crime in L.A.
		sucks.
		Yeah, yeah, we know.
		Alright, let's check in on this.
unidentified		There is a difference!
unidentified		People use it!
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I can't get Tyler Perry on fuckin' Tubi.
unidentified		Oh, God.
unidentified		I think I need a little bit more wine in here, guys.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I fucking hate this guy.
unidentified		I don't want you to get any more wine.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I think you've got a problem.
unidentified		We're going to talk about that after the show.
		You're drinking way too much wine, Gerald.
		No, I'm not drinking too much wine.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Gerald, we don't need... Look, man, you're a man of the cloth.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Let's clean it up.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Not every day is communion day.
		Okay.
		You don't need that much wine.
		We've finished our drink.
		There have been thug life moments.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It's the blood of...
unidentified		No, no, no.
		Let's soften it up.
		You can have some ying-yang or something like that.
		I don't want you to have any more wine, Gerald.
		You get sloppy and today I don't have a... I'm relying on you for the fact-checking, so... Excuse me, sir.
		Whoa, whoa, whoa!
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Cease fire!
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Calm down!
unidentified		Keep it down!
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you're both drinking alcohol.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Just enjoy it.
unidentified		That's fair.
unidentified		Yeah.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay, fine.
unidentified		Okay, let's check in on Laura Luber.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I would say, Laura Luber!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
unidentified		You know what Ron DeSantis, if I get fat it's your fault too, okay?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		It is your fault.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		It is your fault if I can't fit.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why does she have so much pudding?
		Was she eating pudding the whole night?
		What is this gimmick?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Good at my caloric deficit recently and I have lost so much weight and I'm gonna blame you if I gain weight from eating this chocolate pudding tonight.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Love her shirt.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I love the red.
unidentified		I love the red, Laura.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Somebody said I had a cup worth of pudding.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She's got the red Ultra Maga shirt on.
unidentified		Little red.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Alright, so what are your questions tonight?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Put your questions in the chat.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I know we have a couple Super Chats, so let's... I think that's just the lights in the background, but she's got the red bracelet, the red nails.
		For the red state debate!
		I like it.
		I like it!
		What else?
		What else we got going on?
		Boring.
		What's going on here?
		Elijah's still on?
unidentified		This is a replay?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This must be a replay.
		I'm having like an allergic reaction.
		I'm wheezing.
		What else?
		What's this?
unidentified		Anybody on the Republican primary ticket.
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't need to, yeah, let's just.
unidentified		What?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what?
unidentified		Michael Graham, I had a veteran one time tell me.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You know, I just can't, I can't watch, I can't, I feel like I can't watch anything today.
		Everything I put on, I'm not really, I don't really vibe with that.
		Who's uh, we got rice gum and sneak.
		Oh, let's sneak around.
unidentified		It's probably on the right side There's no way to walk in through here Hey, there's me.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's he doing?
unidentified		Governor of California is touching my butt.
		I am Cornholio!
		Chat's saying stuff about Gerald drinking wine, too.
		What is that?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
unidentified		What does it say?
		Go to it, go to it.
		You know, it's down there.
		By the way, I'm sure someone's going to meme the Cosmo Kramer narrative going on right now.
		It's true.
		Well, that's my wife saying don't drink too much.
		That's when he goes home and beats her.
		I do not!
		No.
		No, no.
		She asks for it.
		They have a safe word.
		The safe word is, stop beating me.
		Well, that's three words, so that's why it never works.
		It's supposed to be a safe word.
		Alright, that sucks.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, anyway, so we're watching the, if you're just joining us, we're watching the Gavin Newsom, Ron DeSantis debate.
		I don't know who to root for.
		You know, I don't agree with Newsom, but I don't like Ron DeSantis as a person, so... I'm, uh... I don't know, I'm not really rooting for anybody.
		I guess I'm rooting for Newsom to humiliate DeSantis.
		That's been the best part.
		He should really just stick with that.
		Like the best moment of the night so far is when he said that DeSantis is down 40 points.
		I don't know why he doesn't say that just every single time.
		Alright, we're back!
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Hi, welcome back to Hannity, the Great Red State, Blue State Debate.
		We continue with Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida, Governor Gavin Newsom of the state of California.
		Gentlemen, let's turn to the issue of parental rights.
		Now, in March of last year, Governor DeSantis, as you know, you signed the Parental Rights in Education Bill, and let me read from it.
		It says, classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade three Or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students and according with state standards.
		Critics have called the bill quote homophobic.
		This is the one they branded the don't say gay bill.
		I ask you Governor DeSantis In especially the lower grades, should schools, and maybe all grades, should schools be focusing on reading, writing, math, science, history, computers, and maybe leaving values, considering parents might have different values than teachers at school, to the parents, to religious institutions, Or is it the role of the school?
		What is the role?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		The role of the school is to educate kids, not indoctrinate kids.
		It's not to impose an agenda.
		It's to do the basics.
		And what we've said in Florida is it's inappropriate to tell a kindergartner that their gender is a choice.
		It's inappropriate to tell a second grader that they may have been born in the wrong body.
		Now, California has that.
		They want to have that injected into the elementary school.
		My wife and I have a 7'5 and a 3-year-old.
		We don't think that that's appropriate.
		This is pornography, it's cartoons, it's aimed at children, and it's wrong.
		also important to respect parental rights to know what curriculum is being used in the classroom and everything should be age appropriate i actually have something that i brought that some parents have objected to so this is a book that's in some of the schools in california florida this is not consistent with our standards called gender queer it's some of it's blacked out you would not probably be able to put this on air this is pornography it's cartoons it's aimed at children uh and it's wrong so this should not be in schools
		uh when people like on the left say that somehow you're banning books by removing this from a young kid's classroom.
		No, this is not age appropriate.
		And so we're going to stand for the rights of parents.
		I think we need to do that nationwide.
		I don't think you can have a situation where some states just trample on the rights of parents.
		Parents have a fundamental right to direct the education and upbringing of their kids.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		By the way, you've been on a banning bench.
		1,406 books have been banned just last year under Ron DeSantis' leadership.
		I love that he keeps pulling this out.
		I've seen this.
		He's been doing this all over the campaign trail.
		What's wrong with Toni Morrison's books?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		It's not banned.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		What's wrong?
		It's not true.
		What's wrong with Amanda Gorman's poetry?
unidentified		1,406.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		1,406 books have been banned on your banning binge in the state of Florida.
		As it relates to parental rights, come on.
		California, it's in our Constitution, parental engagement.
		It's called the LCFF process.
		We actually require parental engagement on curriculum development.
		And we don't, complete lie, we don't require K through 3rd grade sexual education.
		That doesn't happen until middle school.
		What you're doing is using education as a sword for your cultural purge.
		And you know what?
		With all due respect, you know, I remember in the 1970s, in the 1970s, we had a bill called the Briggs Initiative.
		And there was a guy by the name of Ronald Reagan, so offended by the Briggs Initiative, which was the original Don't Say Gay Bill.
		In that case, it was not allowing teachers that happened to be gay to teach.
		And Reagan had the courage to stand up and he said, you can't catch gay like you can measles.
		I don't like the way you demean people.
		I don't like the way you demean the LGBTQ community.
		I don't like the way you demean and humiliate people you disagree with, Ron.
		I really find this fundamentally offensive.
		And this is a core value that distinguishes the values of my state and, frankly, the vast majority of Americans against the weaponization of education.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I have a follow-up question for you, though.
		And by the way, first, Governor, yes or no?
		Are the book banning issues, is that not a state issue?
		IS THAT A STATE ISSUE OR A It's local, and he's... Okay, that's all I want to know.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		The home book wasn't there, that was not okay.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Here's the question I have for you Governor Newsom.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Um, some of the books you're talking about, one is called, the governor just brought it up, it's called Gender Queer, a memoir, explicit pornographic book showing sex acts.
		Another, Flamer, graphic book about young boys performing sex acts at summer camp.
		This book is Gay, a book containing instructions on the ins and outs of gay sexuality.
		Let me finish.
		But let's talk about it, a book that contains graphic descriptions about how to masturbate for males and females.
		My question to you, Governor Newsom, those books, do you believe that's appropriate for school districts to teach kids, yes or no?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Come on, those aren't, it's not part of the curriculum, they're not teaching kids.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Those are books that were in school.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, hold on.
		The bottom line is, you are on a book banning binge, your state.
		1,406 books.
		3,362 in this country.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		What about those books?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		We don't provide for K-3rd grade education.
		That kind of curriculum.
		It's just made up.
		These guys make it up.
		It's part of this cultural purge.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Should it be?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		What grade would it be?
		What I find offensive, Sean and Ron, what I find offensive is that a very significant number of these books happen to be LGBTQ books.
		A significant number of these books happen to be about African Americans.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		And I just honestly find it offensive.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I told you, we don't teach that.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		We have sex education in middle schools and high schools where it's appropriate.
		This is a ginned up, made up issue to divide this country.
		You talk about dividing this country?
		This is part of the culture war, the weaponization of grievance.
		This is part of using education.
		We're focusing on math, science.
		We're focusing on reimagining our schools.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get to education next.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		He's criminalizing teachers and criminalizing librarians that check out the wrong book.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		They've used the schools to impose a liberal agenda.
		Social justice, they have this ethnic studies where they're dividing people.
		That's what they're doing.
		But let me just say something about parents' rights, because he says California respects parents' rights.
		This is rich.
		He's been telling a lot of whoppers tonight.
		This may be the biggest.
		In California, if you're a parent in Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina, if you're a minor child, Can go to California without your knowledge or without your consent and get hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and a sex change operation all without you knowing or consenting?
		How in the heck is that, you know, honoring parents' rights when you're bringing people from out of state to go around their parents' backs and getting life-altering surgeries?
		That is an assault on parents' rights.
		It's not for you to decide.
		It's for the parents to decide.
unidentified		And the parents do not want their kids going to these other things.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let me stay on a follow up.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let's turn to the issue of education.
unidentified		and the decency of taking ripping somebody away.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Gentlemen, gentlemen, nobody can hear you.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		That is wrong.
		That is wrong.
		America should not stand in this country.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let us turn, gentlemen, if I may, to the issue of education.
		Here is public school spending per K through 12 students, according to the education data initiative from the U.S.
		Census Bureau and National Center for Education.
		Florida spends nearly $12,000 per student, while California spends over $16,000.
		Florida is ranked number one by U.S.
		News & World Report.
		In terms of state education rankings, California ranks 20th.
		Governor Newsom.
		What is your explanation?
		You spend more money and they have better results in Florida.
		Why?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I told you what I'm doing in public education.
		We created a brand new grade, Pre-K for All.
		We're doing after school and summer school for all.
		We're reimagining the school day, not just the school year.
		We just provided 3.4 million of our students upwards of $2 billion for child savings accounts and the opportunity to start businesses when they graduate.
		We have one of the best records under COVID, during COVID.
		And again, you didn't answer to the fact you had more learning loss.
		Ron DeSantis had more learning loss during COVID.
		Fourth grade reading, fourth grade math, eighth grade reading, eighth grade math.
		We outperformed you in every, it's a fact, during COVID, in every one of those categories.
		I'm, I'm, I can't wait to get all the PolitiFacts tonight, because Ron, you keep denying some basic fundamental facts on health, Wealth and education.
		We outperformed you during COVID.
		You talk about things to apologize.
		You should apologize for your COVID record.
		You were with Fauci.
		You aligned with vaccines.
		You aligned with CDC guidelines until you didn't.
		And tens of thousands of people...
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let's return our focus to education.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, when we opened the schools, we bucked all of those people June of 2020...
		He kept the schools closed for a long time and that had devastating impacts.
		And why?
		What Gavin Newsom does in California is kowtow to the teachers union.
		Whatever they tell him to do, he does.
		He will never buck the teachers union.
		That's why the kids were locked out of school for so long.
		Joe Biden is in the pocket of the teachers union and so is Kamala Harris.
		That's why they fought school openings when he came in there.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Shame on you.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		It's Kamala Harris, Ron.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It's Kamala Harris.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Biden came into office and he brought in the teacher union to be able to do all these different things to try to keep the schools closed.
		So the Democratic Party, the far left in this country, they are owned, locked, stock and barrel by the teachers union.
		I beat the teachers union in Florida to get the schools open first in the country during COVID.
		Also to do universal school choice.
		Every parent in Florida has a right to send their kid to the school of their choice.
		We're winning these fights.
		California is bending the knee to the union because they control the politicians.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		This is a topic that will seemingly play a very large role in the future elections, and it's the issue of abortion.
		I have a question for both of you.
		I'll ask you to please respect the individual's right to answer uninterrupted.
		And that is, Governor DeSantis, I think it's actually your turn, Governor Newsom, if you don't mind.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		All good.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Most medical professionals believe a baby is viable.
		Outside of a mother's womb, by between 24 and 26 weeks.
		That is the general scientific consensus.
		It changes.
		There are some variations on it.
		Abortion is legal in your state, quote, up to viability, is my understanding.
		Unless the mother's health is in danger.
		I'd like to get you on the record.
		You've been unwilling to answer this question.
		Do you, should there be any restrictions on the issue of abortion that you support at all?
		Because funding in California, you have allocated in your budget $265 million for abortion last year alone.
		My question, very specific.
		Do you support any restrictions at all on abortion, especially among 7, 8, and 9, past viability?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to answer that question, but let's talk about the issue of abortion.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about the issue of abortion.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		You're going to answer it?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to answer that question.
		I'll repeat that.
		But I think this is important and it bears repeating.
		Ron DeSantis signed the most extreme anti-abortion bills in America.
		He signed a bill banning any exceptions for rape and incest.
		And then he said it didn't go far enough and decided to sign a six-week ban.
		Before women even know they're pregnant, Ron.
		Before women can even access a doctor's appointment.
		So extreme is your ban that criminalizes women and criminalizes doctors that even Donald Trump said it was too extreme.
		On the issue of the extreme exception, that you highlight as it relates to the issue of later term abortion, it's almost always because of a fetal anomaly, the life of the mother.
		And in those rare cases, I trust, and answer your question, I trust the mother and her doctor to make that decision.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, I want to be clear on this.
		If a woman and her doctor, for any reason...
		No, no, no, no.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It's extremely rare.
		Should there be... I know where you guys are going, Sean.
		You're even uncomfortable with this whole issue.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		And I understand it.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		This is where you guys have to go to cover for the extreme anti-abortion agenda of Ron DeSantis.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Would you support a ban on abortion in 7th, 8th, or 9th month if the mother's life is not in jeopardy?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Extreme, extreme exception.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		People aren't going on and having abortions.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Should it be illegal then?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		If it's rare, should it be illegal?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It should be up to the mother and her doctor and her conscience.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		So the answer is, no restrictions?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I've already answered it, and I'll just reinforce it.
		To cover up, again, hold on, for the most extreme abortion ban in the country.
		I have a simple question though, this is important.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, I'm asking the question.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Ron DeSantis, will you or will you not sign a six-week ban in the unlikely case you govern the United States?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about your state.
		You had 15 weeks.
		You had a 15-week rule in California.
		You reduced it to six.
		My question is this.
		What was your thinking behind it?
		Was it for religious reasons?
		Was it for scientific reasons?
		What was the reason for you from going from 15 weeks to six weeks?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well, I believe in a culture of life.
		I think we're better off when everybody counts, when everybody has an opportunity to do well.
		And that bill attaches when there's a detectable heartbeat for the child.
		And some states have done that.
		Some states have done others.
		Some states have done later.
		And obviously they have a right to do that.
		But I think about one of our Floridians, a lady named Penny Hopper.
		She actually survived a late term abortion back in the day.
		And they left her on the table there to basically wither away.
		Her grandmother came, saved her.
		Brought her to a hospital, brought her, saved her, and she ended up living a good life.
		So she counts and she matters.
		And I think that what the position that we have from the modern left, including in California, is that they will take your tax dollars and they will fund abortion all the way to the moment of birth.
		He's wrong when he says the later terms are all because of this.
		88% past 15 weeks are in fact elective from the Florida data.
		He doesn't keep data there.
		But that is really extreme to take your tax dollars and to do this all the way up to the moment of birth.
		He didn't answer your question about any type of protections at all for a baby that has a beating heart, that can feel pain, that is viable.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let me, let me... Hold on.
		This is an important conversation.
		Will you or will you not support a national... You didn't answer Sean.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't you answer his question?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't you support?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Why?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't you support a national ban if it lands on your desk?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You couldn't answer that in any other context.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Okay, gentlemen, we're moving on to the next issue.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		No, Sean, not a next issue.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You never gave a week.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		The American people should know this.
		I'll answer it for Ron DeSantis.
		He can't answer it.
		He will sign that extreme six-week action plan.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me move on.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		The American people should know this.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I'm calling this the lightning round.
		It would be great if you guys cooperated.
		I'm not a potted plant here.
		And I want to ask you, we all know that federal policy does have a huge impact on states.
		We know that.
		I'm going to ask you three simple questions, and I just want one-word answers, okay?
		From three of you, because we're coming up on a break.
		And the issue is right now, Joe Biden is president.
		So, I would like both of you to give a grade to Joe Biden overall as president.
		Governor Newsom, I'll give an A. An A, absolutely.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I think it's been a masterpiece.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Governor DeSantis failed.
		A failure, okay.
		Now, number two, are his policies helping or hurting your individual states?
		Is it helping the state of Florida?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Inflation is hurting our state big time.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		A grade?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		fail.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		He's failed on the economy.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		The guy just took $28 million in the science and tech act.
		Thank you, Joe Biden.
		It's absolutely accelerating our dominance in manufacturing, accelerating our revitalization of our state.
		The answer is unequivocally absolutely yes.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I will ask you, Governor DeSantis, I have played over and over again, and Governor Newsom, you have seen over and over again, Joe Biden is experienced what I believe to be significant cognitive decline.
		And in other words, it's the toughest job in the world.
		Is Joe Biden experiencing this cognitive decline?
		Is it a danger to the country?
		Do you find when he speaks, what is your reaction to it?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he's in decline.
		Yes, it's a danger to the country.
		He has no business running for president.
		And, you know, Gavin Newsom agrees with that.
		He won't say that.
		That's why he's running his shadow campaign.
		He should not be running.
		He is not up to the job.
		And it is dangerous for this country.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll take... I will take Joe Biden at a high level.
		versus Ron DeSantis any day of the week at any age.
		In fact, all of the folks on the campaign trail.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You think he's up to the job?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You think he's 100%?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I've been spending plenty of time with Joe Biden.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		A private and public.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You don't know.
		And by the way, results matter.
		Inflation now is down to 3.2%.
		Wages are up to 4.4 percent.
		The economy is booming.
		5.2 percent GDP growth in the last quarter.
		Those are facts you don't hear on Fox News.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Fourteen million jobs, ten times more than last three.
		March 31st, 1968, President Lyndon B. Johnson famously said, I shall not seek and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president.
		Now, despite being an incumbent president who is eligible to run for re-election, Governor Newsom I've interviewed you twice on this issue.
		You say you are not running for president in 2024.
		In fact, you recently said, quote, you think that Vice President Harris is naturally the one lined up to run for president if Joe Biden were to bow out.
		Governor Newsom, tonight I ask you, will you make an LBJ-like statement?
		And Governor DeSantis, you say he's running a shadow campaign.
		In your response, I would like you to answer that.
		Will you say, unequivocally, under no circumstances, are you running?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
		I've said it.
		I don't know how many times I can say it.
		He's just making this stuff up about a shadow campaign.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		If at the DNC convention they come and ask you, will you run, what will you say?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden will be our nominee in a matter of weeks.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		And in a matter of weeks, Sean, he'll be endorsing Donald Trump as the nominee for the Republican Party.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		If they come to you at the DNC and Joe is incapable of running and they ask you, are you a hard no?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It's not even optional.
		He's doing fantastically.
		I appreciate and respect the work the president's doing and the vice president's, the Biden-Harris campaign and team.
		So absolutely unequivocally, I look forward to continuing to support their efforts.
		President Biden will be reelected.
		Donald Trump will be rejected.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I think what he's saying should color every single thing.
		I mean, I've called him on a lot of the lies, but he says Joe Biden is 100 percent up to the job.
		You know that that's not true.
		Anybody that can look, he wants you to believe him over your own lying eyes.
		When he says the economy is so great, how great is it when you're going to the grocery store now?
		How great is it when you're trying to afford a home?
		How are those interest rates doing?
		What about affording a new car?
		So we have to get real here, we have to understand that Biden is not up to it.
		But here's I think the problem.
		What Biden would do, the people around him, they would look to California for the model to go forward in the next four years.
		That would accelerate the decline of this country.
		Freedom is what works.
		The failures need to be left in the dustbin of history.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Tell that freedom to women that you're trying to criminalize in your state.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we're retreating to old ground.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Spare me this notion of freedom.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		The Lord is not a state of freedom.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		One of the things I want to accomplish here is the policies that you both implement have a great impact on the citizens of your individual states.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		For years a gallon of gasoline, Governor Newsom, in California has been notably higher In your state, than in the state of Florida.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Here are the numbers, by the way, recent numbers.
		The average cost for a gallon of gas nationwide, just over $3.24.
		In Florida, $3.17.
		In California, it is a whopping $4.85.
		So Governor Newsom, I ask you, you've also sued big oil companies, alleging executives have deceived the public About the health of our planet, knowing that it's a polluter.
		If your lawsuit is successful, that would likely mean higher gas prices, even higher gas prices for everybody.
		Here's my question, though.
		Could you name, right now, one source of energy that you can bring online in the next three to six months that would be as inexpensive for the people in this country as fossil fuels?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let me touch on that.
		I'm going to get to your question, or the latter part of your question.
		Let me get to the first part of the question.
		You're absolutely right.
		Since the 1980s, Republican administrations, Democratic administrations have experienced, under their stewardship, have experienced higher gas prices in the state of California.
		We've been ripped off by big oil.
		We continue to be ripped off by big oil.
		Big oil now has met a new foe, and that's the state of California.
		The most aggressive anti-gouging law in America.
		More transparency being required than any time in America.
		And yes, we're suing.
		We're suing the industry responsible for this climate crisis.
		By the way, the same climate crisis that Ron DeSantis celebrated as human Human-caused, who campaigned for a fracking ban, who campaigned to oppose offshore oil drilling, and then two days after he got elected, signed an executive order—by the way, Nikki Haley had you dead to right on this, Ron—signed an executive order doubling down, saying you're adamantly opposed to fracking, adamantly opposed to offshore oil drilling.
		You were celebrated by the Sierra Club for that action.
		Until you weren't.
		Once again, it shows the hypocrisy of Ron DeSantis.
		Now you're running away from climate change as things have gotten worse.
		Hurricanes, wildfires, droughts, and floods.
		$179 billion of weather-related disasters.
		And he has no response except talking points from Big Oil.
		That was a mouthful.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Again, just more lies.
		But here's the thing.
		California is the only one that oil companies are gouging.
		Why aren't they doing that to Georgia or Florida or these other states that have lower gas prices?
		It's because of their policies.
		That's why people are paying more there.
		What Gavin Newsom wants to do, what he's doing in California, what Biden wants to do nationally is government dictated green energy policies.
		They want to kneecap fossil fuels and reliable energy.
		We've already seen what's happened in California.
		They have rolling blackouts.
		He actually implemented a mandate to buy electric vehicles.
		So pretty soon in California, you're not going to be able to buy a normal car, only electric vehicles.
		And they celebrated that as like a great thing.
		A couple days later, there was a notice from the state government telling all EV owners, do not plug in your EV because they don't have enough grid capacity.
		So he is walking his people into a big time disaster.
		What Biden wants to do is he wants to take the California model.
		He wants to impose that nationally.
		He wants to take away your ability to purchase the car that you want.
		He wants to kneecap reliable energy.
		And he wants to bring these rolling blackouts all across the United States of America.
		It doesn't work.
		It's going to cause huge problems.
		We have more energy here.
		We can be the dominant energy producer in the world.
		And that's what we're going to do.
		Florida's not a big energy state.
		We have the Marcellus Hill.
		We have the West Texas.
		Wow.
		Great stuff, really.
unidentified		Great.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		So let's do that.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		No forcing electric vehicles.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		We got to take a break.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Save the American automobile.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		When we come back, we'll continue the great state, red state, blue state debate.
		More with Governor Ron DeSantis, more Governor Gavin Newsom.
		As we continue, thank you for being with us from Alpharetta, Georgia.
unidentified		Wow.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Great stuff.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Really great.
unidentified		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, honestly, I don't like DeSantis, but of course, agree with him because, I mean, he's just right about the contradiction there with the electric cars and the problem of intermittency he's just right about the contradiction there with the electric cars and the problem It's true, you can't have them both like that.
		And all the rest of it on abortion, etc.
		But it just feels so tedious.
		I don't know about you guys, but whenever I see Republicans and Democrats going at it, I'm just not interested.
		I feel like we've We sort of already know that children shouldn't be reading books with pornography in them.
		We know that abortion shouldn't be allowed up until the pregnancy or rather the birth.
		We know that the climate stuff is a hoax and the Green energy thing is a scam.
		So whenever they do these right-left debates, people always say to me, well you never go after the left.
		I'm so uninterested in hearing from the left.
		Because it's so ridiculous, but, uh, anyway.
		So I find this debate to be pretty tedious.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I wear a mask every day, okay?
unidentified		Tunnels to towers, bro.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Also, I sell tequila and sneakers.
unidentified		Let's see what else we got going on.
		If I were there, it wouldn't go down like that.
		The car's transforming.
		Yeah.
		I thought it was a car, turns out it was bumblebee.
		Oh my god.
		You think this is funny?
		What are you, some kind of chink who's getting mad about my Calvin Klein underwear?
		I committed a hate crime in the 80s if we grow up, okay?
		You guys know that, right?
		He beat the shit out of an Asian dude because he was Asian.
		You know that.
		No, that's why I love him.
		That's what I'm saying.
		I have a big...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Don't raid their live chat.
		When I click on these streams, don't raid the live chat.
		I get in trouble for that.
		All right, let's check in on Lumi.
unidentified		It's four days... ...to go.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Not a lot of options.
		Yeah, pretty good stuff.
		How about Kim Iverson?
		Florida is quickly losing favor with retirees.
		Remote workers and the wealthy are flocking to the state and driving up home prices, leaving those on a...
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Yeah, Slim Pickens here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Not a lot of options.
		Yeah, pretty good stuff.
		How about Kim Iverson?
		What's she up to?
unidentified		It's not even on yet.
		Okay.
		No, the odds are normal now Damn, I got the good odds on that bitch.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I hate the gambling, man.
		Really anti-gambling.
		There, and he's just spreading his buttcheeks.
		Spreading them.
		Okay.
		Like I said, man, yeah, it's kind of a weird night here on Rumble.
		With the pudding and spreading butt cheeks.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Because I ate.
unidentified		It was easier than Hell Week, okay?
		Hell Week, they drown me.
		They wake me up.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		They put me back.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		It's not that hard, okay?
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, man.
		A lot of great content.
		Well, what are you guys up to, huh?
		What do we think in the live chat?
		Who's winning this debate?
		How about let's do a one in the live chat if you think DeSantis is winning.
		Two in the live chat if you think Gavin Newsom's winning.
		One for DeSantis, two for Newsom.
		I have to say, I think DeSantis is winning.
		Although, it's pretty even, if I'm being honest.
		They're both just talking past each other.
		And the moderator's not helping because he's on DeSantis' side.
		Everyone says Newsom.
		A lot of twos in the chat.
		Everybody's saying they think Newsom is winning.
		Yeah, he's doing pretty good, I suppose.
		I feel like DeSantis is winning.
		Maybe it's just because I agree with him, though.
		But I feel like it's DeSantis.
		I'm bored though.
		Boring!
		Politics without Trump?
		Not interested.
		Not interested.
		I think it sucks.
		You take Trump out of the equation, it's just not even worth it.
		That's just this tedious, you know, conservative versus liberal.
		The California model is what they, Biden-Harris, want to bring to the country.
		Like, shut the fuck up.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Continue with Governor Gavin Newsom, Governor Ron DeSantis.
		According to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, these are the numbers for the homeless population in each of your states.
		It is a big problem around the country.
		In the state of California, it is 172,000.
		In Florida, it is 26,000.
		Now, the per capita numbers are pretty much the same.
		For California, it is 44 per 10,000 people, while Florida has 12 per 10,000 people.
		So, Governor DeSantis, I ask you, why the disparity?
		What are the policies you are implementing that is different from that of California?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		California's adopting leftist policies.
		Gavin Newsom was governor or mayor of San Francisco.
		He put out a 10-year plan like 20 years ago.
		He was going to end homelessness.
		Then, a few years later, he had another plan.
		And now he says he's going to do, and it's only gotten worse.
		In the last 10 years in California, the homeless has gone up 45%.
		It's gone down in Florida 45%.
		But it's caused a huge problem with quality of life in California.
		The people that flee always bring up this.
		They've really empowered lawlessness and drug use.
		And you know, Gavin Newsom at one point tried to say that California was the freedom state.
		I just kind of laughed, like you're locking people down, you're doing all this.
		But then I thought about it, you know, California does have freedoms that some people don't, that other states don't.
		You have the freedom to defecate in public in California.
		You have the freedom to pitch a tent on Sunset Boulevard.
		You have the freedom to create a homeless encampment under a freeway and even light it on fire.
		You have the freedom to have an open-air drug market and use drugs.
		You have the freedom, if you're an illegal alien, to get all these taxpayer benefits.
		So those are freedoms.
		They're not the freedoms our founding fathers envisioned, but they have contributed to the destruction of the quality of life in California, and the results speak for themselves.
		People are leaving the state because they have failed in addressing the homeless population.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Well, I love the rant on freedom.
		I mean, here's a guy who's criminalizing teachers, criminalizing doctors, criminalizing librarians, and criminalizing women that seek their reproductive care.
		You're making it harder to vote.
		You're banning books.
		I mean, spare me this notion of freedom.
		Ask the folks at Disney about freedom and free enterprise.
		Ask the folks at the Special Olympics that you threatened to fine with $27,000.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Because they were discriminating against the athletes!
unidentified		Who goes after Special Olympians when it comes to the issue of homelessness?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Ron, that is wrong.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		That's being a liberal bully.
		That's being a bully.
		They had Down Syndrome and you wanted to discriminate against them.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		They were discriminating against Special Olympians because they were discriminating against the athletes.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		They wanted to marginalize the athletes and you wanted the athletes marginalized.
		That was wrong what you did.
		These are kids with Down Syndrome.
		They just wanted to compete and you wanted them out of the Special Olympics.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You're a liberal bully.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You wanted them to be ostracized.
unidentified		You should talk to Isabella from Florida.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'M GOING TO DO.
		SHE GOT TO PARTICIPATE.
		I'm used to that.
		But you know what?
		Your attacks on the trans community, your attacks on the gay and lesbian community, you attack vulnerable communities, you attack women.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Again, Ron, relax.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I can handle it.
		I'm used to bullying.
		You're nothing but a bully.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		You're a bully.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I understand that.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Intimidating and humiliating people, that's your calling card.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Why did you want the Special Olympians not to be able to compete?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, how well is it going for you?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Why did you want them not to be able to compete?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		How well is this campaign going?
		Why do you not want them to be able to compete?
		He's not going to let me talk, so I'll talk to the American people.
unidentified		I don't understand why you want to discriminate against them.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Again, I'll remind you that the blueprint, the blueprint for Florida has put Ron DeSantis 41 points down to Donald Trump as you try to get tough and out-Trump Trump.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		On the issue of homelessness, it's been an issue for decades, decades in the making in the state of California, ever since we started shuttering down our mental health institutions back in the day, in Ronald Reagan's day.
		The difference is I'm the first governor in California history to take this head-on.
		We are investing unprecedented resources, more accountability.
		We've gotten 68,000 people off the streets.
		Close to 6,000 encampments we've gotten off the streets.
		We've also invested in unprecedented resources in reforming our behavioral health system.
		Ron has literally the worst mental health system in America, forgive me, outside of Mississippi and Texas.
		And so with all due respect to being lectured on some of these topics, Ron DeSantis is not the one I'm going to be listening to.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		This is a map of San Francisco.
		There's a lot of plots on that.
		You may be asking, what is that plotting?
		Well, this is an app where they plot the human feces that are found on the streets of San Francisco.
		And you see how almost the whole thing is covered, because that is what has happened in one of the previous greatest cities this country's ever had.
		Human feces is now a fact of life, except When a communist dictator comes to town, then they cleaned up the streets.
		They lined the streets with Chinese flags.
		They didn't put American flags there.
		They cleaned everything up.
		So they're willing to do it for a communist dictator, but they're not willing to do it for their own country.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		There are two very important issues we have not hit.
		After the Hamas terror attacks on October the 7th, we have seen what is nothing short of a disturbing outbreak of virulent hatred, anti-Semitism around the world in the halls of our Congress, on American streets, on college campuses.
		Last month, outside in Sydney Opera House, In Australia, we've seen it all over Europe, but in Australia, anti-Israeli protesters literally in this day and age chanting, gas the Jews, F the Jews.
		In American cities, we have protesters calling for global Islamic war and demanding that Israel be wiped off the map, or in the words of Congresswoman Tlaib, from the river to the sea.
		Israel, meanwhile, is vowing to eradicate the terrorist group Hamas.
		But according to a report in the New York Times this week, U.S.
		officials have warned Israel that they need more to fight more surgically in Gaza.
		Governor Newsom, 30 seconds for you.
		We have to cut back on time.
		How can Israel win the war against this terrorist group using surgical strikes and directions from Joe Biden?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I visited Israel.
		I met with families, hostages.
		I saw videos of children being killed in front of their parents.
		Parents being killed in front of their children.
		I saw a beheading with a garden hoe.
		This is not complicated to me.
		This is a fight between good and evil.
		Hamas is a terrorist organization and they need to be eliminated, not just for the people of Israel and Jews around the world, but for the Palestinians themselves.
		But when it comes to the issue of anti-Semitism, you just mentioned a lot of things that have been occurring on Ron DeSantis' watch.
		He said nothing.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		You're calling him anti-semitic?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		anti-Semitic?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Marching.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying he countenanced anti-Semitism, and now he's finally talking a big game ever since October 7th.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		How about the masked man marching in the street?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		For the sake of fairness of time, gentlemen.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You said nothing.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Governor DeSantis.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Nothing on these issues.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Look at the record.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Hamas runs nothing shorter than a second holocaust.
		They want to destroy Israel and wipe every single Jew off the map.
		Israel has every right to defend itself to the hilt.
		Biden should not be kneecapping them in any way, shape or form.
		And by the way, Biden stranded a lot of American citizens over there.
		We're trying to get home.
		So I did an executive order in Florida and we sent planes over to Israel right in the aftermath of October 7th.
		And we saved over 700 Americans, mostly Floridians, but not all.
		because Biden wouldn't do it.
		Finally, Biden started dumping people in Greece, and then they were sending a bill to the Americans just to get to Greece.
		If you come to this country illegally, they will pay to fly you all over the place.
		They'll put you up in a hotel at no expense.
		But yet our own citizens fleeing a war zone, they're going to send you a bill?
		Joe Biden failed those people, and we stepped up and got it done.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you, I want to turn to anti-Semitism on your streets for years.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I want to turn to the issue, gentlemen, of China.
		I talk about this often.
		Intellectual property theft, unfair trade practices.
		China has been hostile to our fighter jets in international airspace, hostile to our Navy in international waterways.
		We know all about the China spy balloon that happened eight days right across the United States over military installations.
		The Communist Chinese, they have nationals buying up thousands of acres of ranch land, farmland, and land near military installations.
		Their hostility towards Taiwan.
		They are, Governor DeSantis, our number one geopolitical foe.
		I don't see that the Biden administration has been tough with them.
		What would you do differently?
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Well first, in Florida, we banned China from buying land in our state because you're right, you don't want them buying farmland or land near military bases.
		So we acted.
		We also got the Confucius Institutes out of our universities.
		China should not be involved in our universities at all.
		What you need to do is you need to have hard power in the Indo-Pacific to deter China's ambitions.
		You need to take the economy and we need to decouple from China.
		We're dependent on them for so many things.
		And then finally, we need to get serious about their influence in this country.
		They shouldn't be able to buy farmland anywhere.
		I can tell you this, I would not go to China and grovel in front of Xi like Gavin Newsom did.
		He says China's a partner on climate change.
		China's adding two new coal plants every year.
		China's laughing at us with what they're doing.
		So yes, they're the number one threat we face, and we need to take it seriously, and Joe Biden is not doing that.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		This is just a reminder, you know, I think it's a question some people are probably asking.
		I know Nikki Haley's campaign is asking, when are you going to drop out and at least give Nikki Haley a shot to take down Donald Trump in this nomination?
		She laid you out.
		You're a walking hypocrite.
		You're a walking hypocrite on the issue of China.
		This is the guy that was looking for direct foreign trade from China, was doing trade shows.
		That is false.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		That's already been debunked.
		That's absolutely true.
		Even the liberal fact checkers did that.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump himself today called you Red Ron for a reason because of your complete hypocrisy.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we're almost out of time.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Again, talking a big game.
		I confronted Xi on the issue of fentanyl, Ron.
		I confronted them on human rights.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Not on human rights you didn't.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely did with the Foreign Minister and the Vice President and other leaders in China.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		You talk a big game.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, you haven't done anything except tweet Final question.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Governor DeSantis, we owe you about 90 seconds, but you get the last word as per the coin flip.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		What are you giving me?
		Five seconds?
		What do I get?
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		No, I'll do it.
		I'll be a little more generous than that.
		It's been a very passionate debate tonight.
		Actually, it's been fun to be a part of.
		I think the American people will decide.
		Governing philosophies could not be more different.
		But let me ask you this, kind of a fun question.
		You both clearly love your states.
		You visited each other's state.
		Governor DeSantis, you can take as much time as you want.
		You have an extra 90 seconds.
		What is your favorite thing about the state of California?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I'll give him five minutes for this.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we'll stay longer.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Five minutes, Governor.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		When I got orders as a Navy Lieutenant to go to Naval Amphibious Base Coronado, I had not spent any real time in California in my life.
		Florida native, and I'm very proud of the state, but I got down there, and that strand is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been, and then all up and down, just a tremendous coastline.
		I do believe California has more natural advantages than any state in the country, which is why, when you have so many people leaving on net, That's hard to do.
		People don't want to leave there because it really is such a beautiful area.
		And I'm proud of the military installations that are there.
		I'm proud of what the Navy's been able to do in conjunction with the state.
		It was really important duty.
		It really helped forge me as an individual and as an American.
		And so I'll always have very, very fond memories of that nice strand down there in Southern California.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what you love about California.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		What do you love about Florida?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		What I love about your question is the comedy in the question.
		Meaning, you know what?
		We all want to be loved.
		We need to be loved.
		We all want to be protected, respected and connected.
		I think there is a unity frame here.
		You said it well.
		Ron, I have no doubt, Ron DeSantis loves this country.
		I love this country.
		It's not about red versus blue.
		It's red, white, and blue.
		The United States of America.
		And I think we're all better off and we're all better off.
		And so I appreciate this conversation.
		I appreciate you, Ron, being a family man.
		You've got three incredible kids.
		I appreciate your wife, your sacrifice, and I appreciate your military service.
		But I also appreciate we do have fundamental differences about the fate and future of this country.
		And that's why I'm going to be working so hard To get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris re-elected in 2024.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		You couldn't resist.
		You had to go right back to 2024.
		Alright, here's the last question.
		Would you do this again?
unidentified		I hope we could do another half hour.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden should show up to a debate.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I have another 20 minutes and I've got a lot of questions.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		You want to stay?
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		Let's just do an extended hour.
		I'm happy to do it.
		This has been fun.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I think it's been fun.
		I think it's been more entertaining.
		I'm sorry to the guests that I've invited.
		I got to take a break though in the meantime.
		We've got to pay some bills.
		It's not a cheap set we built for y'all.
		I hope you like it.
		Courtesy of your favorite channel, Fox News, and you do admit you watch often.
		We'll take a break.
		They've agreed to stay.
		Well, that's I guess a debate on the fly.
		We'll continue on the other side and later have live post-debate coverage.
		We are in Alpharetta, Georgia.
		The great red state, blue state debate as we continue.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is a really scuffed setup here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So it was supposed to be over, but they're gonna keep doing more.
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I wish he would have said something about Florida.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I was actually kind of interested if he had something nice to say about Florida, but I guess not.
unidentified		He didn't really answer that, but that's okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
		This is not, to be honest with you, this is not raising my opinion of Gavin Newsom.
		He kind of just seems like a douchebag.
		I liked him before, honestly, going into it, because he's tall and handsome and white and like, you know, seems like a cool guy.
		But, watching this debate, he just comes across like a giant liberal douchebag.
		So, I don't know that I... I don't like DeSantis, but, I mean, Newsom really sucks, man.
unidentified		I mean, he's a fucking douche.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So, liberals still suck.
		You know, I guess... I guess what we've learned is that liberals still suck.
		Cuz yeah, I don't like liberals.
		I don't like Cuomo.
		I don't like Pritzker.
		I don't like I Don't like the mayor's and I don't like Newsom this whole I mean he just comes across totally insincere full of shit and And fake so I don't know I don't really like him I thought I thought I would have liked him more I thought that I I thought I would have liked him, but I don't.
		He doesn't have it.
		I thought he had it.
		He does not have it.
		Biden has it.
		Obama has it.
		Trump has it.
		He does not have it.
		He's not likable at all.
		And I thought he would be more likable, but he's not.
		DeSantis isn't.
		I mean, DeSantis is a stiff.
		That's the difference.
		DeSantis is like a dork and no riz at all.
		But Newsom is just a hack.
		He's clearly just a liberal douche, like I said.
		So that's a little bit of a difference.
		He's got riz, but DeSantis kind of hit the nail on the head when he said, you know, you're just a slick liberal politician.
		I would say that's appropriate.
		Let's see, what do we got though?
unidentified		The hashtag is state debate.
		It's cleared up.
		I know most of you don't care.
		And, uh, Mug Club, you get beautiful.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		They're always shilling the products.
		Don't you appreciate that about my show that I'm never shilling products?
		I feel like every show you tune in, it's always, you know, blah blah blah dot com and buy the fucking thing.
		Buy this.
unidentified		Yeah, letterattractor.com slash mug club.
		Go to it right now.
		Once it's gone, it is gone.
		Okay, seven plus one things we would rather watch than Gavin.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And honestly, they're just shilling that.
		It's like, that kind of stuff is such a grift.
		And listen, I know people need to make money.
		I know people need to make a living.
		And honestly, I should sell more stuff, you know?
		So don't be surprised if in a year or two years, don't call me a hypocrite if I'm selling stuff.
		But it's such a grift when they do these shows and they're like, hey, here's a children's book.
		Here's coffee.
		Here's this.
		I mean, and I'll probably be doing it at some point because I want to make more money and I want to scale things up and all that, but it's just like, bruh.
unidentified		Every show you watch, it's freaking, hey, don't forget to buy this thing.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Buy this, uh, whatever.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Children's book.
unidentified		It's always buying stuff.
		Let's move on here.
		7 plus 1 things we'd rather watch than Gavin Newsom.
		Number 4.
		A plus size model.
		Oh god.
		Yeah.
		That's just... Doing anything.
		Sure.
		That was the key to that joke.
		Test holiday.
		7 plus 1 things we'd rather watch than Gavin Newsom.
		Number 3.
		You know what?
		I'll do this, Joe.
		I don't want to put you on this.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Number 3.
		Whoopi Goldberg's pap smear.
		Oh my gosh.
		Actually, hey, Steven, we do have, we have a little bit of footage, a picture of that.
		Oh, God.
		Pull that, yeah, pull that in.
		I don't like it.
		Oh, for the love of God!
		No, that's not her.
		That's the Predators.
		Oh, that's true.
		Yeah.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's Trump's true social page.
		He reposted that today.
		So, that's pretty cool.
		You know, I like seeing my stuff.
		Another one!
		Another Donald Trump retreuth Laura Loomer.
		Gee, sure looks like Ian O'Goron, the son of leftist judge Arthur O'Goron is the man next to the New York Attorney General.
		Scroll down, too, because he shared some of my articles.
		Another one!
		He posted so many of my posts today.
		I love Donald Trump.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god, another one!
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Look, that's like four Loomer posts in a row.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's so nice of him.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Loomered!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Trump got loomered.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Trump re-truthed Loomer four times.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, W Loomer, because they really tried to mess with her, like Karen Giorno, that fucking bitch.
		Karen Giorno was like, when we got Trump not to endorse Loomer, she really tried to mess with Loomer.
		Karen Giorno was Loomer's campaign manager and then turned on her.
		And now Loomer is laughing all the way to the bank.
		She's laughing all the way to Mar-a-Lago with her dub.
		Woomer.
unidentified		Wara Woomer.
kayleigh mcenany ▲ ● ▼		Huge.
		Is this Mac?
		Okay, this is Mac.
		Let's see what we got.
		Oh, it's over.
		So they're not doing the talk.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Let's see what we got.
kayleigh mcenany ▲ ● ▼		Was the sharpest, best messenger in the Democrat Party.
		I maintain that's Gavin Newsom.
		Unable to message the rotting pile of facts before him, both in the state of California and nationally for Joe Biden.
		He just had some really strong moments, particularly when he said, look, I talked to a guy who said, I love the unemployment down here.
		I love the wages down here.
		I love the state of Florida, how safe it is.
		Oh, by the way, that was your father-in-law, Gavin Newsom, also pulling out the map of the feces in San Francisco.
		Another strong and powerful moment.
		So I think the clear winner, Ron DeSantis, in a nearly impossible task for Gavin Newsom.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		Let's get your take, Ari Fleischer.
unidentified		Well, I think watching this you just realize Democrats are from Mars and Republicans are from Venus.
		They speak totally different languages.
		Ron DeSantis' language was one of economics, gasoline, six, seven dollars a gallon, the lockdowns in California.
		It was very practical, very focused on people's daily lives, the rise in cost of living.
		If you listen to Gavin Newsom, his whole message was identity politics, which is the language of the Democrats.
		I don't like the way you talk about migrants.
		We have to fight for women.
		Everything he says is about a group, an ethnic group, a chunk of Americans.
		It's not about America.
		And that's the language that Democrats respond to.
		So you really have two different approaches for what America needs.
		I will say this.
		Gavin Newsom is much more articulate, fast on his feet, and sharper than Joe Biden.
		And if I'm a Democrat looking at the presidential race, even if I dismiss Ron DeSantis, I have to still worry about Joe Biden, and that's a difference in just Biden's age, Sean, as you pointed that out.
		The final thing I'll say about DeSantis, I don't think that he closed the gap with Donald Trump tonight.
		It was a nice night for him, and he did well, and he had the facts on his side.
		But when you look at the purpose of him being there, which is to win a presidential race, I just don't think he closed the gap.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I totally disagree.
		I think that it was a mistake for him to be there.
		How is that a victory to go to a debate?
		When you do a debate, you give your opponent a platform to attack you and attack your record.
		Why would you subject yourself to that?
		What's the risk-reward profile when the other person isn't running?
		You're running for a national office, he isn't.
		So, he gets a platform to attack your record and attack you, And whatever the positives are, those negatives exist.
		And DeSantis has a platform to attack a guy who isn't running.
		The profile's all wrong.
unidentified		I think one of the things, and Kayleigh said at the outset, there's no doubt that Gavin Newsom will be the most important, the most forceful and articulate advocate on behalf of Democrats in this 2024 election.
		And Governor DeSantis, I think, Displayed one of the things that Republicans are going to have to deal with.
		How do you talk about the economy?
		How do you talk about issues?
		In the face of, I think, whether we like it or not, or agree or not, one of the most powerful issues in this election in 2024 is going to be this issue of reproductive rights for women.
		It's not going to overtake everything, but it will certainly be one of the most important issues.
		And I think where we are six months from today with regard to gas prices and inflation will probably determine more about the outcome of the presidential race than anything else.
		But as it relates to the state issues, Florida, California, I got to tell you, I was more impressed with Ron DeSantis than I thought I would be.
		I thought that Governor Newsom, who I think is one of the most effective presenters in politics, he was that tonight.
		But I thought that Governor DeSantis laid out very effectively his record in Florida.
		Was it able to do what he wanted to do on the presidential stage?
		Probably not.
		But tonight I think he probably fared better than I thought a lot of people thought he might have fared against a guy in our party, Gavin Newsom, who I thought did well tonight.
		But I thought Governor DeSantis did a pretty good job tonight as well, too, defending his state and his record. - Good.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		What did you think, Kayleigh, about the answer when I quoted LBJ in terms of Gavin?
		There's a lot of suspicion, a lot of people around the country, polls are bearing this out now more than ever, that people are seeing Joe Biden as weak and frail and in cognitive decline.
		That was not something that Gavin Newsom wanted to admit.
		But when you bring up the issue of whether or not if his party came to him, whether he's been very clear in all three interviews that I've had with him, tonight being a debate obviously, I'm moderating, but that he thinks that it would be the Vice President, Vice President Harris, and not him up next.
		If you say it that often, you have to take somebody at their word, don't you?
kayleigh mcenany ▲ ● ▼		Well, as a political figure, there are certain things you have to say.
		This is why every single person, probably in all of time, who has run for president says, oh no, you know, it's not my time.
		I'm not thinking of that right now.
		I'm focusing on my state, my city, etc.
		And then several of them go on to run for president.
		There are certain things that you must say.
		Gavin Newsom tonight must have said over and over again, it's Joe Biden, and then given that head nod to Kamala Harris.
		But what I look at are what were the words of Gavin Newsom leading into the midterm elections?
		Days before the midterm elections, he talked about his fundamental grievances with his party.
		They're unable to message.
		It was someone, by his words, that seemed to be clearly posturing in the event of a red wave, either running himself and taking on Joe Biden.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't really care that much what she says.
		All right well let's watch some of these other streams for a minute and then I'll give my recap and then we'll do super chats and then we'll call it a night.
		Honestly a very strange evening.
		I feel like this whole thing is bizarre and Gavin Newsom pointed it out before the debate and I think other people said as much.
		It strategically doesn't make any sense and I think maybe this is I don't want to say this will cause DeSantis to lose, but I think this certainly does signal that he is on the downward trajectory.
		And what I mean by that is, it was apparent almost exactly a year ago that The Trump vs. non-Trump race would be a Trump vs. DeSantis race.
		What I mean by that is he was the apparent challenger for Trump in the nomination, the most formidable, and at that time basically the only viable name in that conversation as to who could be a viable challenger.
		Trump was less popular a year ago than he is today, a lot less popular.
		And DeSantis was a lot more popular a year ago than he is today, in his own state and nationally.
		So one year ago, the state of the GOP primary was Trump and this apparent challenger, DeSantis, with some background noise.
		DeSantis got in the race very late, relatively speaking.
		You know, Trump got in in November 22.
		DeSantis got in, I think, in April or May 23.
		And DeSantis only has gone down since he entered the race and has just disappointed.
		And the viability argument seems to be disappearing.
		He's not performing in the polls.
		He's not competitive.
		The numbers aren't improving.
		Not the fundraising numbers.
		Not the polling numbers.
		The debates aren't rescuing him.
		Where's the second wind going to come from?
		I think a lot of people are wondering where is going to be the moment when he is able to be competitive.
		Because it hasn't happened for a long time now.
		In fact, it seems like the opposite is happening.
		Not only is he not becoming competitive, he's becoming uncompetitive considerably compared to where he was off the heels of the midterms.
		And what has happened in the past couple weeks is it seems that the establishment has abandoned DeSantis and they're now coalescing behind Haley.
		Everyone's been talking about that, that she's been the pick for Fox News, she's the pick of the New York Post, she's the pick of the New York Times, Washington Post, etc.
		And so they're saying that they're abandoning DeSantis, they're coalescing around Haley And as that has happened over the past couple weeks, now you have DeSantis doing this totally strange debate, which in my view is a strategic blunder.
		This is not a move that advances his presidential campaign.
		And if that is the case, then it's a giant diversion.
		It's a big waste of time.
		And if that's the case, it makes it a strategic mistake.
		I don't know that it's a blunder.
		I don't know that it necessarily hurts him.
		But it's a public move, a visible move, that has no tangible benefit.
		I think everybody looks at it and asks, why?
		And people are confused by it.
		And it's sort of weird, and it lowers him as well, because you're supposed to be aiming for the White House, meaning you're taking aim, politically speaking, at the President of the United States.
		You're taking aim within the primary in the nominating contest at the former president, the presumptive nominee of your own party.
		So these are national figures.
		I mean, theoretically, or maybe actually, you're going for a national office, So you're taking aim at national figures.
		You should be on that level, in that strata, in that conversation.
unidentified		But he's debating a statewide politician.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He's debating someone else who holds statewide office from across the country.
		So it sort of lowers him.
		So not only does it not really send the right message, and not only is it not something that advances his national campaign, But it also, I mean, and I don't want to overstate the impact of this, but it does send the wrong signal.
		It sends the wrong message.
		It lowers him.
		And so that makes it a big mistake.
		It makes it a big misstep.
		And what that says to the establishment and what it says to the donors and even the voters is that this guy is not serious.
		What are you doing?
		What are you doing messing around with the governor of California In some intramural debate.
		What's the point?
		What's the purpose?
		Why?
		Shouldn't you be running for?
		You're a governor and you're running for president.
		Why are you debating another statewide officeholder?
		And so if people are asking that question, if people are looking at you and saying, hey, what's the point of this?
		Isn't this a giant distraction?
		Isn't this a giant waste of time?
		Especially when you're in a precarious situation.
		If you're running away with it, and you make a blunder like this, or rather a misstep like this, whatever.
		But he really, in the next month or two, this is make or break for him.
		Iowa caucus is what, end of January, beginning of February?
		It's December.
		So, I mean, realistically, you got two months.
		And by the way, DeSantis' strategy is an Iowa strategy.
		Iowa is the first contest in the primary.
		And typically this is what people do.
		If they don't have a national profile, if they don't have a big campaign, they go all in on Iowa because a strong performance in the first contest will give them momentum in the race.
		It proves viability.
		It proves competitiveness.
		If you sort of concentrate your forces and defeat in detail, If you concentrate your energy on Iowa, on the first state, you do really well.
		People say, oh, maybe this guy can win the nomination, and as the race narrows, because the race narrows in those first four, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, those are the first four in the first month.
		And typically people, that's when they start to drop out, because that's when the rubber meets the road.
		When people start to vote and people see, you know, who's getting a lot of votes, who's getting delegates, who is viable to go the distance, that's when the race narrows, and that's when, you know, more market share sort of opens up and, you know, people sort of prove their mettle.
		If people start to drop out and the race tightens and it becomes a two- or three-person race, and if DeSantis has a strong finish in Iowa, Then the logic goes that he'll do well in New Hampshire, and, you know, by South Carolina, by the time the thing is in full swing, it becomes a two-man race between him and Trump, and that's when he can really make the case, and it's really a different stage of the contest.
		So, that's the idea.
		So he's toured all 99 counties in Iowa.
		He's gone to every county in Iowa, and that's a very... that's a grind.
		That's a grueling... I mean, that's legit, like, doing electioneering.
		He went to all 99 counties and put all his resources there.
		He apparently has no ground game in any of the other states, including New Hampshire.
		And so point is, you should be in Iowa.
		You should be in Iowa.
		You should be in New Hampshire.
		If that's the pathway to the nomination is to win Iowa, to get a first or second place finish there, that's where you need to be!
		Why are you debating the governor of California in Georgia?
		You need to win Iowa!
		And you need to win New Hampshire!
		And Nevada and South Carolina, but he's debating the governor of California in Georgia!
		So, it just makes no sense.
		And if it's not moving the ball forward, then you're moving it backwards.
		So I think this is not a good move.
		It's very bizarre.
		The setup was bizarre.
		Sean Hannity hosting this debate with no studio audience.
		It's just them.
		Newsom came across a little weird.
		So this is a very bizarre sort of detour.
		I don't know what he's thinking.
		But that's just it.
		He doesn't know.
		And that's really the difference between him and Trump, is Trump has this killer instinct that DeSantis doesn't have.
		It's as simple as that.
	It's instinct.
	Trump has the instincts to know that that is stupid.
	DeSantis doesn't.
	DeSantis said, oh yeah, I'll fight him, I'll debate Gavin Newsom.
	It makes no sense.
	It's bad instincts.
	Bad intuition.
	This is something that maybe it sounded like a good idea on paper.
	Maybe this sounded like something that might be fun or whatever.
	But it's dumb.
	It's dumb, and it's weird, and it's a giant distraction.
	It's a big detour.
	And I think that maybe people like the idea of it, but it doesn't make any sense.
	And that's just bad instincts.
	That's being a bad politician.
	That's the difference between him and Trump.
	And that's the difference between someone who can be competitive at the national level and someone who is destined to be middle management like that.
	Somebody that's destined to be a statewide officeholder and nothing more.
	You know?
	And you can be a really good governor, but that doesn't make you a president.
	That's a whole different ballgame.
	And it's moves like this that show that this guy's just amateur hour.
	He belongs in a governorship because this is not a national figure.
	This is not a guy that can lead the nation.
	That takes a different class of politician.
	Different class of leader.
	It's not him.
	You are not him.
	So, that's my thoughts on it.
	And I'm really not interested in, you know, who won?
	Did DeSantis win?
	Did Newsom win?
	DeSantis lost.
	By being part of this, he lost.
	And Newsom won because he sort of trolled his way into the national conversation.
	And that got him some publicity.
	I don't think that he did himself any favors You know because I think that Newsom has been angling for a long time Like that he's gonna appeal to conservatives, I don't know if you can I don't know if you know this or not, but Newsom has been Saying like what he's been saying positive things about Trump, and he's been saying that he'll go on Fox News and all this and so I think that Newsom has this sort of
	He thinks that he's gonna be a candidate that'll be supported by maybe people in the middle or try and win that culture war that, you know, I think people like Tucker and Joe Rogan have been winning lately, and I think that he just alienated himself from conservatives.
	I think he may, like I said, I came into this kind of open-minded about Newsom and he came across like a giant liberal douchebag, and I am a contrarian.
	I came here Thinking like, I'm ready for the gay, high-tax, you know, whatever, California governor to kick DeSantis' ass.
	I was open-minded about Newsom coming in, and he just totally turned me off.
	Totally off-putting.
	Just sucked.
	Like, just came across like a liberal faggot.
	And that seems to be what always happens.
	I feel like whenever the right gets excited about the left, the left reminds you what they're really about.
	You know, like even with Andrew Yang, I liked Andrew Yang for a long time.
	And then at the first debate, he came in there and he tried to be a regular liberal.
	He went out there and said that Trump is a freaking asshole and blah blah blah.
	And I said, okay, so you're just another liberal blowhard.
	But they have to say that kind of stuff to appeal to their people.
	At the end of the day, that's their constituency.
	These insufferable liberals, leftoids, that's their constituency.
	Those are their people.
	That's the choir they're preaching to.
	And that goes for Tulsi Gabbard, that goes for Yang, that goes for Newsom.
	I mean, these guys get up there and it's like, oh yeah, you're a libtard.
	Which is disappointing.
	So, yeah, I thought it was a bad look for both of them for different reasons.
	I thought Newsom, whatever sort of innovative thing that he had going, that he was doing outreach to conservatives, I think that's done.
	I think that he made himself out to be a liberal idiot.
	And it was a failure for DeSantis because you're running for president, man.
	Presidents don't debate governors.
	Presidents debate other presidential candidates.
	They don't do intramural debates for fun because it would be content or whatever.
	That's not what you do.
	Bad instincts.
	And couldn't have come at a worse time with Nikki Haley's ascendancy.
	He's crashing.
	So the next primary debate is next week.
	So we'll see what happens, but I think the next debate is on the 7th?
	Next GOP primary debate?
	So... I'll be covering that, and I guess we'll see what happens, but... Yeah, pretty lame.
	Alright, but let's see, what else do we got here?
	Is this, uh... Dude, how do people watch Fox News?
unidentified		to you, Trace.
gavin newsom ▲ ● ▼		It was something to be seen.
		Bill Malujan live for us in Georgia.
		Bill, thank you.
		Let's bring in criminal defense attorney and federal.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Dude, how do people watch Fox News?
		Look at these people.
		The Gator, Vic Bajaj, Fox News contributor, Jay.
		Who is this guy?
		I hate this guy.
unidentified		Bruh.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Politics for people who hate politics.
		What a stupid- That looks like the stupidest book I've ever seen in my life.
		Do you know how stupid you'd have to be to buy this book?
		How much do you think this book retails for?
unidentified		$24.99?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And it's written by some woman?
		Foreword by Senator Tim Scott.
		Denise Gitschum.
		Politics for People.
		How to Engage Without Losing Your Friends.
		Is this book for mental retards?
		Is this a book for people with Down Syndrome?
unidentified		No, I got this really good book by Tim Scott.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I kinda like him.
unidentified		He's not like a crazy Republican.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		$28.99, $29.95 people are saying.
		If you buy this book, this is like an IQ test, if you buy this book you should be institutionalized.
		You should be arrested.
		Imagine.
		Imagine going to a bookstore, imagine going to a Barnes & Noble and picking this up and paying $30 for this trash.
		Politics for people who hate politics.
		Shut the fuck up.
		I'm over it, man.
		Look at this one.
		Yeah, she looks really intelligent.
unidentified		...now in the primary, is all with Nikki Haley in the conversation, and where you're seeing after the debates, and I'm not... Listen to her voice.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if you were married to that.
unidentified		...as he could have, because basically he opened himself up to a whole new line of... Ugh.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Women talking.
		When women talk, it's just like, ugh.
		Although, Vic Bajaj, I mean, you live in California.
		She's got that shrill, like, Sarah Silverman voice.
unidentified		Really did try to avoid a lot of the things that he just quite couldn't answer.
		That's right, and I think both of the candidates walk out of this debate thinking they won.
		They have trial psychosis.
		They think the verdict is coming back in their favor.
		There's no doubt about that.
		And it's very clear that these are really opposed candidates.
		It's not as though there's a middle ground.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Fox News is so goofy.
		I remember I used to watch Fox News when I was in high school.
		I used to watch Fox News like every day, and I don't know how I did that.
		I didn't know any better.
		I was a teenager.
		I was 15.
		So, I had no idea.
		Now I think it sucks.
		Anyway.
		What's going on with Crowder?
		Let's take a look.
		Oh, Crowder's done!
		Okay, Crowder's finished.
		Yeah, that's a good point.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		These guys are kicking my ass.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		is demanded from them.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		They get more money.
unidentified		These people don't care if the prices are a little bit more expensive, right?
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		That's just how things are in California.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		These guys are kicking my ass.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		5.5, I'm at 3.9, damn.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		The corporate corrupt legacy media tells people things are going great in their everyday lives.
		They know that's not true.
		They know their neighborhoods are no longer... Alright, whatever.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let me read Super Chats, then I'm gonna get out of here.
unidentified		Let's see, let's take a look at our Super Chats.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Let's put something on in the background.
		Let's let this run in the background, I guess.
		All right let's see I don't think we have usually when I do these debate streams nobody super chats you know I think people are like oh he's not he's not really doing a show so they're like we don't you know no super chats all right we got we got about 20 or 30 though so let's see Hey, thank you.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		I sent $5.
unidentified		Alright.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		One by one those I have sourced my info from have been exposed.
		I pray every night for God's discernment and it led mine to cozy.
		I pray you're legit.
		I believe in America and believe in what you're doing.
		Hey, thank you.
		Rape Caviar sent $10.
		Hamas must be packing the way they'd be breaking pelvises.
		No wonder the Jewish hostages are in love with them.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
unidentified		Gross.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Chad Champion sent $3.
		I support Newsome just cause Hesse Chad Arion.
		DeSantis is retarded and short.
		Also who approved this DeSantis has everything to lose from this Derry Snowskin for Newsom.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah exactly that's what I'm saying he's got everything he's the presidential candidate Newsom's not even running Newsom survived a recall like And this is just bad strategy.
		Like, anyone with a basic understanding of, like, game theory would understand this is a bad idea.
		Because you're right.
		Newsom has nothing to lose in this.
		There is no downside for him.
		You know, a Republican that all liberals hate is going to attack his record?
		It doesn't matter.
		On the other hand, DeSantis is in the middle of a competitive primary within his own party.
		And these attacks where Newsom gets to say, you're 40 points behind, Nikki Haley's kicking your ass, when are you going to lay down and give her a shot?
		These are things that, it's a mistake for DeSantis to be there and have those things said to him by a liberal.
		So, I agree.
		But I... Hey, take it easy on the short guys, okay?
		Look, he's Italian.
		We're not big, okay?
		We're not...
		Italians are a lot of things.
		We're fun, we're loyal, we're funny, we're good-looking, we have great food, bombastic, charismatic.
		I mean, we're geniuses, but we're not tall, okay?
		We're not a tall people.
		We're little.
		We're short people.
		Take it easy on the little guys, okay?
		Take it easy.
		DeSantis is 5'9", 5'10".
		That's not that small.
		Okay?
		And, you know, Newsom's a douchebag.
		I don't know how far being an Aryan gets you if your cities are covered in poo and homeless people and they're giving kids gay porn.
		I mean, that's not very Aryan, is it?
		Chad, Aryan, six foot whatever.
		Okay, but the city's covered in shit, homeless vagabonds, blacks stealing stuff, and they're teaching the kids to be gay and trans.
		That's not very Aryan.
		You know, that's not, you know, and he's tall, so maybe height's not every- so maybe height isn't everything, okay?
		Maybe it's not everything.
		Take it easy on us.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Pretty fly white guy sent $3.272.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Gavin should have called him Rob for the whole debate.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Meh, that's dumb.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Bob Hitler sent $5.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		When DeSantis tries to be assertive it looks like he's screaming out of his eyes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he doesn't have like a high testosterone.
		He does this.
		I don't like when people do that.
		You know, because when he's yelling he does this like pleading with his eyes.
		His eyebrows go like this.
		Like he's pleading with you.
		It should be like this.
		You know, like when Trump gets mad, he goes like this.
		He squints.
		This centipede is a predator.
		You know, that's like Trump.
		If you notice that about Trump, Trump never raises his eyebrows.
		Let's pull up Can't Stump the Trump, just for old time's sake.
unidentified		I'm Donald Trump.
unidentified		I don't know.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I wrote the art of the deal.
		I say not in a braggadocious way.
		I've made billions and billions of dollars dealing with people all over the world, and I want to put whatever that talent up our balls.
unidentified		From this epic stumping.
		Oi, babe.
		You know what time it is.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		It's jerk cock time.
unidentified		Are you?
unidentified		No.
ron desantis ▲ ● ▼		Dollar.
unidentified		Away, man.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Different.
		The quality's not great, but totally different.
		Totally different look than DeSantis.
		DeSantis has like this deer-in-the-headlights look.
		Trump never has that.
		Trump's always got his, uh, he's got the hunter eyes.
		Different vibe.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That guy tried to debate with me.
		This guy in the Zoom call tries to come in and debate with me and he's, you know, kind of throwing shit.
		And I just debated him into the ground and, you know, Spencer came in and I think I had some good points on him as well.
		I get why people disagree.
		I just, I think I'm right on that.
		And thank you.
		Yeah, it was very controversial apparently.
		My appearance was Spencer.
		I know a lot of people didn't like that.
		You know, look.
		Well, I don't really need to defend it.
		It was a good, it was good content.
		Enough said.
		I don't need to respond to that.
		You know, but apparently it was controversial to some people.
		You know what I say?
		Fuck them.
		I thought it was a good show.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Good content.
		Adam Vine sent $10.
		How's that going for ya?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, uh, when Newsom said that to DeSantis.
		Yeah, that was good.
		How's that going for ya, bitch?
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Vincent sent $3.
		Unwatchable THX for soldiering through.
		They're just talking past each other with sound bite attempts.
		Impossible to reach the truth of the matter.
		They might as well debate whether or not Cobson is a gem.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		That's always how it goes.
		I mean, that's always how it is with these debates.
		It's all BS.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Nick Love sent $3.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Great stream, man.
unidentified		Thank you.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Hope you feel better soon.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Yeah, I apologize.
		I was planning on doing a show yesterday, but I got so out of nowhere.
		I did the Spencer thing, and I don't know if you could tell, but towards the end of it, I had this massive headache.
		I get these, like, neck headaches.
		I don't know.
		It's called cervicogenic, I think.
		A cervicogenic headache.
		I get those all the time.
		And I got, like, a completely debilitating headache.
		That's why I wasn't tired, I wasn't hungry, I just had this unbelievable headache.
		And I was like, at the end of it, Mark kept going on and on and I was in so much pain.
		I was literally like wincing.
		I was like, dude, please like let me get off.
		And like the second I ended the call I just like slammed ibuprofen, Gatorade.
		I had, I'd do all these stretches to fix it.
		But it wouldn't go away and then I had this horror, I literally thought I was dying because I had this terrible headache.
		I had a terrible stomach ache out of nowhere.
		I felt like I was gonna barf.
		So I took ibuprofen.
		I took a bunch of Tums.
		I jumped in the shower.
		I was in the shower for a while.
		I thought the steam might help.
		But I just felt like death and nothing was making me feel better.
		I felt awful, so... I really wanted to do a show yesterday.
		I was really trying to soldier through, but it was just unbearable.
		I just... I crashed on my bed.
		I was watching Skibbity Toilet.
		I crashed on my bed with the lights on.
		I had all these crazy dreams.
		So... Anyway, so I was having a lot of problems.
		But I wanted to do a show, I tried to do a show, but it didn't happen.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Why are you asking me that?
		Hey, so uh, you gonna see the new Paul Giamatti movie?
		You gonna see the new Paul Giamatti movie?
		Same director who made Sideways, which is one of the most comfy kinos of all time.
unidentified		I don't know.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why are you asking me that?
unidentified		Hey, so, uh, you gonna see the new Paul Giamatti movie?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why are you talking to me like that?
		What, are we friends now?
		I don't like when people... You know, these superchats, man.
		I don't know where people get off saying something like that.
		Hey, uh, hey, so you gonna see the new Paul Giamatti?
		What, what, what fucking Paul Giamatti?
		I have no idea what you're talking about.
		What movie?
		You're the one typing the superchat.
		Why don't you say the name of the film?
		I have no idea what you're talking about.
		And why do you care?
		Why are you asking me that?
		I don't know why people ask that.
		People make small talk.
		It's like you're paying $3 to send me a message and it's small talk.
		Why?
		They're like, I have to know if he's gonna see the new Paul Giamatti movie.
		Hey, by the way, same director as Sideways.
		Oh, okay.
		Thanks for the trivia.
unidentified		Irritating.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm irritated.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was weird, considering the allegations that he abuses his own wife.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Kind of misplaced.
unidentified		Hey, thank you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That was weird considering the allegations that he abuses his own wife.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Kind of misplaced.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Mike Vance sent $3.
		Thank you, gentlemen.
		That was very entertaining.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thank you.
unidentified		Appreciate it.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Mike Vance sent $3.
		I don't think there is a picture of Gavin Newsom at the Wailing Wall either.
		Skull.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I wonder.
		Let's find out.
		Gavin Newsom, Wailing Wall.
		Oh no, yeah, no Wailing Wall.
		Wow, look at that.
		No Gavin Newsom, no Joe Biden.
		Wow, maybe Democrats are based.
unidentified		He touched this wall though.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Alright, go figure.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Theophilus sent $5.
		As weird as this was I think more random debates between representatives would be cool hypothetically.
		Preferably something more focused and deep cut.
		In a more ideal society I think this would happen.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, really insightful remark.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Rooftop Korean sent $5.
		Your account does not show up on Rumble Home for this and searching DeSantis v Newsome live your account still does not come up in the search results.
		Without the lies Newsome dies.
		Really dislike this slime.
		He let the homeboys ruin beautiful LA.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Eh, it's not really his fault.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		California's been going to hell for a long time.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Glenn the Gro I percent $10, the biggest takeaway from this gay debate is CIA asset Hannity pressing constantly on the Iranian immigration and how it is going to lead to another 911.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Nick is it rational to be afraid of another false flag attack by Israel?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a dumb question.
		What you should be saying is, is it likely or possible that there'll be a false flag?
		And the answer is yes.
		Is it rational to be afraid of something?
		Like, that's a dumb... Like, why'd you phrase it like an idiot?
		Yeah, no, it's very possible that there will be a false flag terror attack committed by Israeli intelligence, made to look like Iran or one of the Iranian proxies.
		Yeah, I think everyone knows that's a possibility.
		Why would you even ask that?
		It's obvious.
		Why would you even ask that?
		Of course, if you could think it, of course it's possible.
		If you even know the first thing.
		You're asking if something that's obviously possible is possible.
		Yes, it's possible.
		And I think it's likely.
		The thing is though, it's not rational to be afraid of something like that because the nature of those things is so unpredictable.
		You can't live your life in fear.
		I mean, you should be more afraid of being in a car accident than being caught in a false flag terror attack.
		Just statistically, you know, so I don't think that's why your question is dumb.
		Is it rational to be afraid of XYZ?
		That's a different question.
		Now, is it likely that there will be a false flag attack?
		I think it is possible.
		I don't know if it's likely, but I think it's possible.
		But I don't think you should be afraid because, you know, what are the odds?
		You know, things are so bad now.
		There's very high odds you die in a car crash, plane crash, get killed by a black person, you know, die of fentanyl overdose, stuff like that.
		That's way more likely than you get blown up by Israel.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true. that's true.
		Real goal was to validate cable news as capable custodians of metapolitical commentary but it failed.
		Weird vibes and no outcome, ineffectual.
unidentified		That's dumb.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Dude, people always try to impress with the hot takes.
		The real goal was to validate cable news as capable custodians of metapolitical commentary.
		Sorry, what about that was metapolitical, dipshit?
		I'm sorry, but people will just be saying stuff.
		And no, it didn't.
		The cable news channels host all the debate.
		Who do you think the last three debates were hosted by?
		The last debate was hosted by, what, CNN?
		Or MSNBC or something?
		I mean, even Vivek called them out for that.
		In what way does that validate them?
		Metapolitical commentary.
		When they talk about, your state has higher unemployment.
		No, your state has higher unemployment.
		Your state has a higher crime rate.
		No, yours does.
		Yeah, that's really metapolitical.
		Do you even know what that means?
		Bro said metapolitical.
unidentified		Metapolitical commentary.
unidentified		There are custodians of, whoa, I never thought of it that way.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Did you feel smart when you typed custodian?
		Did that make you feel intelligent?
		Did you feel intelligent when you wrote Custodian of Metapolitical Commentary?
		When you strung that little construction together, were you impressed with yourself?
		Were you satisfied with yourself?
		Because you shouldn't be.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Let's try it though.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		A little more practice.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		A little more practice and next time think it through.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thank you for the big super chat.
		$99.
		In positive news, some Russian regions have outlawed coercing women to procure abortions, with wider restrictions being considered.
		They have also just banned the LGBT movement outright.
		Do you favor Russia at all over China due to its gradually returning Christian character?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thank you for the big super chat.
		I appreciate it.
		I favor Russia over China because it's white.
		I I favor it because it's white, it is part of Christendom, and Putin is making an effort to reassert the Christian character of the state.
		Notice I said the state, though, not... the nation is not Christian, really.
		But Putin has been very explicit that orthodoxy is part of the character of the state and They're trying to re-embrace that.
		So I admire that.
		Although, with that being said, China seems to be equally or even more intolerant of degeneracy.
		I don't really know about abortion in China.
		I haven't brushed up on that.
unidentified		But...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's my understanding that China is more socially conservative than Russia.
		Although, that's not an extremely educated take, but it's my understanding I think they're a little bit more traditional and a little bit more socially conservative.
		Because Russia just had a total social revolution with The Bolsheviks that I I don't think the same thing necessarily happened in China I don't necessarily think it was as extreme because communism in China.
		It's sort of a different flavor It's a different character than it is in Russia so I Think that China retained a little bit more of their traditional character than Russia did different communist revolutions But I mean, but besides all of that, I mean, I favor Russia.
		Yeah, absolutely, because it's Christian, at least historically.
		And I also favor it because it's European.
		Well, it is Asiatic, but you know, Slavs are arguably European or European adjacent.
		Some are not going to like that, but you know, I mean, no, but they are European.
		So I do favor them.
		It's just that China is vastly more powerful for obvious reasons.
unidentified		So.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So I'm pro-Russia.
		For sure.
		But thank you for the big super chat.
		I appreciate it.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Boogly woogly sent $3.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Entropy test chat.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Test.
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		Sent $3.
		Have you heard of Frazzled Rip?
		Kinda crazy how there's forums on tour with actual photos of Hillary Clinton molesting and killing a child with her campaign manager.
		Not to be a boomer but crazy.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is that real?
		I haven't seen that.
		Is that real?
unidentified		I've never heard of anything like that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh here we go.
		ADL Frazzledrip is a rumored dark web snuff film showing Hillary Clinton and Uma Abedin sexually assaulting and murdering a young girl, drinking her blood and taking turns wearing the skin from her face as a mask.
		Is that real?
		Come on now, is that real?
		The video was allegedly discovered on Anthony Weiner's laptop in a folder labeled life insurance and police officers who've reportedly seen it were so horrified they were driven to suicide.
		Conspiracy theorists have pointed to the video, which does not actually exist, to support long-standing conspiracy theories.
		Well, they're not saying it's fake.
		Well, I guess they did.
		They said it's not real.
		They say it doesn't... Is that real?
		That doesn't sound real.
		Sounds a little extreme.
		That sounds a little far-fetched.
		I'm not gonna lie.
		Sounds kind of... Hillary Clinton and her aide sexually assaulted and murdered a young girl, drank her blood, and then they took turns Wearing her face as a mask?
unidentified		And it was so horrifying the cops killed themselves?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Come on!
		Who belie... Is that real though?
		Did that... If that happened, that's a nightmare.
		That's so... That's obviously horrifying, but... But that sounds fake.
		That sounds totally fake.
		Do people really believe that?
		People are saying it's real?
		Someone says anyone who has seen it kills themselves.
		I Part of me wants to say send me the link another part of me doesn't want to watch that actually another part of me Doesn't want that on my computer because I feel like someone would come and murder me People are saying it's real it's literally real Dude, you don't want to see it It's real?
		Okay, damn.
		Maybe I gotta see it.
		Somebody show it to me on your computer though.
		You show it to me on your phone.
		I don't want it on my phone.
		Let me go to Google Images.
		Frazzledrip, this is the purported file name of a snuff film found on the laptop of Wiener in a folder named Life Insurance.
		It was said to make even the most hardened New York City Police veterans cry.
		It's said to show Wiener's wife Uma Abedin and Clinton performing satanic ritual abuse on a young girl, surgically removing her face, wearing it as a mask to flood the victim's bloodstream with adrenaline.
		Blood drank in this state is an elite drug of choice called adrenochrome.
unidentified		I think we have a good energy here today California finally lifted everything Drubb did, who reversed it.
		Going to the strip club and... Alarm you a little?
		It's like in Jaws, when the shark went out to sea for a little while.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I guess he did a segment about this?
		Alright, well, no, we'll find out.
		We'll look for that.
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		If Nikki Haley became president, do you think she'd do any good?
		Jimbo Zoomer sent $5.
		You rock, smile.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thanks buddy.
		You rock.
		Jimbo Zoomer.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Jimbo Zoomer sent $10.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		I meant to send $10.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Jimbo.
		Everybody follow Jimbo Zoomer Experience, my favorite show.
		We love Jimbo Zoomer.
		This guy is like... I'm honestly...
		Been taking credit for a lot of his work.
		He has been the guy just relentlessly A-logging Destiny and finding all these clips of him being retarded, and I just steal them.
		I just steal them!
		I steal them, I send them to my friend Autumn Gruyper, and I throw them around on telegrams.
		I'm just kind of stealing his content, but Jimbo has been one of the biggest Destiny A-logs And Jackson Hinkle as well.
		So, you gotta give him the credit.
		Watch his show, Jimbo Zoomer Experience.
		He's the man.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Keltoris sent $5.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		How often did you check your war game during the SnoreFest?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		During the entire second and third... Literally during, I think the whole third and fourth segment I was playing Call of War.
		Like the entire... For like half hour of the debate.
		At least a half hour I was playing Call of War.
		on my other monitor.
		So I watched the first one.
		I think I watched the second one.
		I think by the third one, I just started playing the game.
		So, yeah, I think you could tell.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		If you just look at where my eyes are.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thanks for the big super chat and no message!
		Thank you, ImHopLite, for the $50 super chat.
		No message.
		We love you, buddy.
		Appreciate it.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Dude, who cares?
		- Mango sent $15, "Hey Nick, Mango Tomato here.
		What do you think of Uck's tweet from earlier this morning saying it'll be her last post because of Elon's F-bomb tirade?" - Dude, who cares?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Big whip.
		What do I think of what AOC said?
		I don't really care.
		This isn't Hannity.
		Wrong show.
		This isn't Crowder.
		Hey Crowder, what did you think of AOC saying, AOC?
unidentified		That socialist bartender from Boston University?
unidentified		Dude.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Mike Van sent $3, when Hannity was getting walked over by Newsome could have muted his mic but instead did this passive-aggressive whining.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		I would appreciate it if you guys could cooperate lol.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't fault him for that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just the nature of the beast.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Monkey Boy King sent $3.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Will you ever eat chocolate pudding again?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Duh dude.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Come on now.
unidentified		So Nick, will you ever eat pudding again?
		Hey, after you saw that, I bet you'd never eat a pudding again, right?
		Dude, just stop.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		Why that?
		Why would you?
		Some of the stuff people write, I'm just like, why?
		Who might write that?
unidentified		I bet you'd never eat a chocolate pudding again, right?
		Right?
		Because you saw that clip and it grossed you out?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like chocolate pudding.
		I don't like pudding.
		What adult eats pudding?
		I can't eat that crap anymore.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Too old for that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Let's go!
		Hey, thank you for the big super chat.
		07s to ImHopLite.
		He sent all the big super chats tonight.
		We love you, my man.
		07s to ImHopLite.
unidentified		Big shout out.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Vincent Price sent $5.00.
		Headaches and stomach problems?
		When was the last time you went to the doctor?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not really asking for your advice.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		None of your business.
unidentified		Please, shut the fuck up.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Schreiber sent $3.00.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		When was the last time you went to the doctor?
		What are you, my mom?
		Back... Why are you nagging me?
		I swear, man.
		Everyone's always... Everyone is always so far up my ass about everything.
		Honestly...
		I'm ready for Keith Woods to just take all this off my plate and then I can just go live in the jungles of Vietnam in retirement.
		I can take my small fortune and go live in Vietnam or wherever and live out my days playing Call of War and eating whatever they got over there, eating centipede on a stick or whatever.
		Grilled grasshopper on a fucking stick.
		So I don't have to have everybody constantly up my... When's the last time you went to a doctor?
		Why?
		Why are you asking me this?
		Dude... I haven't been to the doctor in years.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Woah!
		Woah, hot take!
		Wow, you really get it.
		Jews won the debate.
		Both would lead the country to the same end if they both ideologically agreed on Israel and the Jews.
unidentified		Whoa.
unidentified		Whoa.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hot take.
unidentified		Wow.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You really get it.
		The 3,000 foot view.
		The 10,000 foot view.
		Thank you for that enormous insight.
		Enormous contribution to the field by JFK Kruiper.
		Jews won the debate.
		They both agree on the Jews.
		Whoa.
		Somebody just hit the baste button.
unidentified		Whoa.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Somebody get this guy away from the baste button.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Because he just hit it.
unidentified		Unironically, it's probably low testosterone, I think.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's how you know, by the way, that diet is bullshit.
		Here's how you know that.
		Okay, check this out.
		If I go and take human growth hormone and testosterone and steroids You will know it immediately.
		If I go and I get the good stuff, I get testosterone, you will know it.
		I will be visibly, dramatically, noticeably different.
		I will pack on muscle.
		I will be huge.
		If I start going to the gym and I start measuring my macronutrients and blah blah blah, you know, maybe in 12 months you may notice a subtle change.
		That's how you know it's bullshit.
		Because somebody who is on a diet And does their macros and this and that.
		I mean, they will not put on as much muscle as someone on testosterone that eats nothing but ice cream.
		If I go on an ice cream and chocolate diet, all these things that, you know, sugar is bad for you, seed oils.
		I could go and eat McDonald's Big Macs and ice cream and chocolate chip cookies and be on steroids and hormones.
		And I will look way better than someone who has a perfect diet and no steroids.
		And that's how you know none of that is real.
		You know, someone could take all the supplements.
		I took my magnesium in the morning and I took my vitamin D twice a day and the C and I got 150 milligrams of protein or 150 grams of protein and blah blah blah and it's like oh really?
		Well I'm on steroids And I eat out of the garbage.
		And every day I jump in a garbage can and I just eat garbage.
		Today I ate 100 Reese's Outrageous Bars.
		And I look like the Hulk.
		I look like Hulk Hogan.
		That's how you know it's bullshit.
		So it really doesn't... Macronutrients I don't think actually matter.
		I think calories matter.
		I think testosterone matters.
		I think that's it.
		I think the rest is a load of shit.
		And I think people are doing too much.
		People are doing too much.
		You know?
		It's all genetics and it's all hormones.
		It's all endocrine system.
		None of the other stuff really matters.
		They say, you know, well what's your split?
		I saw some person was telling me, well you're just not doing it right.
unidentified		You gotta do three sets like this and you know carry heavy things and blah blah blah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's like really?
		How about I go on Human Growth Hormone?
		What will my results be if I'm on?
		I think it basically doesn't matter if I'm on Human Growth Hormone.
		So, if you want to really do something that supercharges your body, do that.
unidentified		Otherwise, it seems fake.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Seems like it's all fake.
unidentified		i think whatever will happen will happen sg 44 sent three dollars what was her top song in spotify raped well uh it was it was messed up it
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, because I did not listen to this song at all this year So I think I had it on repeat on accident at some point, but it was sleepyhead by passion pit which I I did not listen to that song Maybe more than twice this whole year, but for whatever reason that was my number one.
		So I think I I accidentally left it on repeat or something at some point.
		But let me pull up, let me see what my number 2 was.
		Because my number 2 was legit.
		My number 2 was Royal Otis Motels.
		3 was Vehicle Dissolved by Provoker.
		4 was Rose in a Glass by Provoker.
		5 was Courtside by Tim Atlas.
unidentified		That was my...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That was my Spotify.
unidentified		Unwrapped.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So there you go.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		- Thank you. - Thank you. - Pryz sent $5, no message. - Thank you. - Keltoris sent $5, this nerd's still playing Call of War.
		Grind nigga grind.
		- Okay. - Jiocio sent $5, no message. - Thank you. - Jiocio sent $5, no message.
		$5.
		Destiny says he has been working out for years, but you already have a better physique after a day.
		Wild.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why'd you send that 20 minutes apart?
unidentified		Dio sent $3.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Papa John's door dash tip.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I only tip $1, but thank you.
		Papa John's.
		I haven't had the Papa J in a while.
		I've been trying to eat healthy because I'm falling apart at the seams.
		I am working out, so I'm trying to eat protein.
		I've been eating pretty clean.
		You know, today I had tacos.
		Tacos are pretty clean.
		You know, if you get a Mexican style, you know, like a corn tortilla, onions and cilantro.
		It's all protein.
		So I got some tacos.
		I got some steak and chicken tacos.
		I got chick-fil-a.
		I know that's not the best, but it's protein, you know?
		And I got the tenders, so no bread.
		I got barbecue.
		I got really good barbecue the other day.
		I think that's what made me sick, though.
		Whenever I eat barbecue, it makes me sick.
		I don't know what it is about barbecue, but...
		I can't handle it.
		Every time I get barbecue I get really sick.
		But I went to this great place the other day and I got mac and cheese, I got cornbread, and I got a brisket.
		The thing is I like I don't really like the barbecue meat.
		I like all the other stuff.
		I like the cornbread.
		I like the mac and cheese.
		I like the sides.
		I don't really ever like the actual meat.
		I don't like smoked meat.
		It doesn't do it for me.
		But that always makes me sick.
		It kills me.
		Someone says it's the sauce.
		You think so?
		Is it the sauce?
unidentified		I looked online.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It said it's a sodium or it's hidden fats.
		It's very fatty people say What is it?
		What do you think it is?
		Someone says food is medicine.
		No, it isn't.
		I love when people just say the dumbest, food is medicine.
unidentified		Oh, I never thought of it that way.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's the pork?
		But it was brisket.
		It was beef brisket.
		It's literally the pork.
		It's beef brisket!
		How could it be pork if it's beef?
unidentified		It's very fatty.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Pork is fatty.
		Is brisket always pork or is it sometimes beef?
		It was beef!
		You're saying it's pork!
		It's beef!
		Everyone's saying in the live chat it was the pork.
		It was a brisket, dude.
unidentified		Pork in the beef?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		they put pork in it they put pork in it Brisket is a cut of meat from the breast of beef or veal.
unidentified		Oh yeah, that's what I thought.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I said brisket, everyone's saying it's pork.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm like what?
unidentified		People are saying it's big beef.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Big beef.
unidentified		That's funny.
unidentified		It's big beef.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It was a Wagyu brisket.
unidentified		Someone says brisket is always beef.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I thought.
		That's why I'm confused.
		Everybody's saying it was the pork that made you sick.
		They're like, yeah, the pork was very fatty.
		I'm like, it's not pork.
unidentified		It's pork brisket, said somebody.
unidentified		That's funny.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
		It was good, but the meat always makes me sick.
		I guess it's probably too fatty.
		I think that's what it is.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		John White sent $10.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Happy Cybertruck Day.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		ImHopLite sent $100.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		This one's for the GrowIpers.
unidentified		Hey!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the big... Wow!
		ImHopLite really putting the show on his back tonight.
		07's to you.
		Thank you very much.
		All week, too.
		Thank you very much, my friend.
		Everyone give an 07 for ImHopLite.
		He is subsidizing this show for you tonight.
		I hope you all realize that.
		For whatever reason, people don't like to super chat when I do the debate streams.
		So this guy is... This is brought to you by ImHopLite.
		So thank you a lot.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Wonder Pets Patriots sent $5.
		You are so insightful and funny and witty.
		We love you.
		Smile!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Aw, thank you.
		Thank you.
		Love you, too.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Schreiber sent $3.
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Once Trump is the final leader, there will be the solution.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, really?
streamlabs matthew tts ▲ ● ▼		Laura Myers sent $3.
		Thank you for showing the debate tonight.
		And actually letting us see and hear it.
		New follower.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thank you!
		Welcome aboard.
		Yeah, well, no problem.
		Yeah, I hope you... this is a little bit of an unconventional show.
		Maybe not what you're used to, but I appreciate the super chat and welcome a new follower!
		Welcome!
		Welcome in.
		Okay, that's our last super chat.
		That's gonna do it for me tonight.
		Kind of a long night.
		I think I got started at 8?
		It's like a three-hour show tonight.
		But it was pretty fun.
		Not bad.
		So I'll be back tomorrow.
		I'll probably be doing a Rumble stream in the afternoon tomorrow, so stay tuned for that.
		And then I'll be doing my show at the normal time around 10 o'clock central.
		That's tomorrow.
		But that's gonna do it for me tonight, as always.
		Thanks everybody for watching.
		Remember to follow me on Rumble and on Cozy.
		Follow me on Rumble.
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		In particular, I'm Hoplite and Black Pill.
		Big thanks to them.
		Thanks to all our Super Chatters.
		Everybody that watches the show, we love you and I'll see you tomorrow.
		Until then, have a great rest of your evening.
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donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		America first.
unidentified		The American people will come first once again.

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