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Feb. 25, 2020 - America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes

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Groyper War 2: Conservative Inc Strikes Back | America First Episode 544

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unidentified		At any moment, you just play a play.
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		I just enforce them, alright?
		Not my words, not my rules.
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		Not my words.
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		Everybody dare to vote.
		We'll be right back.
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		We'll see you next time.
		This is from your biggest Protestant fan, may you one day see the light.
	Well, hey, thanks.
	Love you, too.
	But sorry, I believe in a religion that makes sense.
	So.
	But as soon as you can start playing games, I stop.
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	And at any moment, I can check that yay button.
	I said, trust, don't be.
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	Okay.
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	I just enforce them, alright?
	Not my words, not my rules.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I just endorse them, all right?
unidentified		They said, trust me, I didn't believe your day was in the car. I didn't believe your day was in the car.
		Last time, Scott, I'm going to turn everything to you.
		Warming up.
		Everybody dare to vote.
		We'll be right back.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everybody.
		You are watching the America First bonus stream!
		Afternoon bonus stream!
		And we are hanging out, chilling, vibing.
		As promised, we're doing a stream today.
		A little bit later than I expected.
		I was planning on doing it earlier, but some things came up.
		I had to take care of some things behind the scenes.
		and uh... run a couple errands but we are ready to go here locked and loaded and uh... title of the stream is groper war two conservative inc strikes back and there have been some murmurings there have been some whispers a specter you could say is haunting the united states of america groper war two and i have to tell ya this is something that i didn't even initiate
		What I'm referring to in the title, and what we're going to be talking about today, is a conflict that is being renewed and reinitiated by Conservative Inc.
		That's why the title of this stream is, Groyper War II, Conservative Inc.
		Strikes Back.
		Because certainly I have plans in the works for what the second leg of the Groyper War might look like, or further plans, but it is Conservative Inc.
		which has fired a shot across the bow.
		Is it the bow?
		I don't know, I didn't graduate college.
		Shot across the bow at the Groypers at America First, at Maine.
		This really came on my radar like in the past couple of days.
		First I saw this podcast, Ben Shapiro goes on Charlie Kirk, and they talk for like, I didn't listen to the whole thing, we're going to listen to it today.
		But they talked for like at least 15 minutes about the so-called new alt-right, the Groypers, America First, all that.
		And so that happened.
		And then right after you get this hit piece on Jaden's organization, America First Students at Kansas State.
		And I've seen some other things, all of which leads me to believe that they are in fact gearing up for another conflict in the same way that we are, which is actually going to make it more interesting.
		You know, I think a lot of people anticipated or suspected that if we were going to carry on any kind of activities after the first leg of the Group Wars, that it would be the same thing.
		It would just be us asking questions and going to the Q&As and...
		I'm sure that Conservative Inc.
		thinks the same thing, which is why they're anticipating.
		They're anticipating what may happen next, but I don't think they're anticipating what's really going to happen next.
		So, I think that they are trying to preempt us a little bit with the podcast, some of these hit pieces, and who knows?
		I think Charlie Kirk goes back on tour at the end of this month, so...
		You know, they have raised their army, they're ready, and they will meet us on the battlefield, and we will see them there as well!
		We will gather our forces in a new and a different way this time, but we will be there too, to meet them, to match them.
		But let me get some music going here while I'm gonna read through this article, and then we will listen to this podcast, and that should basically be the stream today.
		But I've got to get some music going so that my headphones don't turn off.
		So let me just get that started just so we're all together.
		And I also want to put out there for everybody that I am currently not allowed to stream on YouTube.
		So remember today... That's a little loud.
		Today is going to be a big show.
		It's the New Hampshire Primary tonight at 7 o'clock.
		And I will only... That's still a little louder.
		I will only be streaming on DLive because if you were watching the show last night, I got a second Community Guidelines strike in the middle of the show.
		So I'm unable to stream on YouTube for at least two weeks.
		Pending perhaps another Community Guidelines strike which would mean that my whole channel is banned.
unidentified		So...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, with that out of the way, we will dive into this article.
		Let me know how the audio is, if the music is too loud.
		But we'll read through this, and then I can turn the music off, I think, and we'll listen to the podcast.
unidentified		So, actually, you know what?
		First of all, I should have done this before I went live.
		So, actually, you know what?
		First of all, I should have done this before I went live.
		I'm going to archive this because we're going to need that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna need this, potentially.
unidentified		Where's the archive.is?
		Yeah, I'm gonna archive that real quick.
		I just realized I forgot to do that.
		Oh, it's already been archived, it looks like.
		Okay.
		Clean!
		Clean!
		Yeah, I'm going to archive that real quick.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I just realized I forgot to do that.
unidentified		Oh, it's already been archived, it looks like.
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Clean, clean.
		Okay.
		So this just dropped today, 1 o'clock, by Judy L. Thomas, who I was actually able to find on Spokio.
		Judy L. Thomas in Kansas City, Kansas.
		It says, Report white nationalists turn focus to college campuses with trial run of Kansas State.
		Music is still too loud.
		Okay, I'll turn it down.
unidentified		Alright, let me know if that's okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, white nationalists turn focus to college campuses with trial run at Kansas State.
		And this is totally dishonest because Jaden McNeil is not a white nationalist, and neither is anybody who they're claiming in this article, right?
		They're claiming that me and Patrick Casey are white nationalists, which is not true.
		But even if it were true, this is Jaden McNeil's organization on Kansas State, and Jaden is a campus conservative.
		Anyway, it says the white nationalist movement, tarnished in the aftermath of Charlottesville, is repackaging its bigotry through a new mainstreaming strategy that focuses on college campuses and Trump supporters, according to a report released Tuesday by a national watchdog organization.
		Its first test case, a new group at Kansas State, launched by a student whose former organization was the subject of protests on campus.
		And, you know, by the way, this is what they have been saying forever.
		When they used to talk about the alt-right, it was, the alt-right is the KKK repackaged.
		And now that it's the Groipers, the Groipers are the alt-right repackaged.
		And it's just a constant guilt by association, and of course it all goes back to the neo-Nazis.
		Or it all goes back to the Nazis themselves.
		You know, the skinheads are repackaging the Nazis, the alt-right is repackaging the skinheads, the groipers are repackaging the alt-right.
		No.
		The groipers are totally different.
		We are America first.
		I've never been a white nationalist.
		I've never been alt-right.
		You know.
		They always bring up Charlottesville.
		Oh, they were at Charlottesville.
		They were at Charlottesville.
		We've never been affiliated with Richard Spencer.
		We've never been affiliated with David Duke or The Right Stuff or anything like that.
		America First is totally its own thing.
unidentified		Anyway.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It says, so it's first test case, da-da-da, known as GROIPER, the new marketing effort, marketing effort, is an attempt by white nationalists to rebrand under a banner that will unite what it describes, America First, conservatives, Christians, anti-globalists, and nationalists.
		Yeah, in other words, not white nationalists, not neo-Nazis.
		I don't understand the brazen lying, just lying through their teeth on this.
		It's a marketing effort.
		It's not a marketing effort.
		We call them colloquially GROYPERS because they were like IRL shit posters.
		But they're America First.
		You know, the organization is called America First Students.
		Our summit is called America First Pack.
		The show is called America First.
		So GROYPER was never about marketing or branding.
		GROYPER was a colloquial term that we used on this show.
		And then that the media was, oh we don't know, what does this mean?
		Who are the GROYPERS?
unidentified		We don't do marketing on the show.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
		You know, what would we be trying to market?
		We're not trying to market anything.
		Well, at least with that term.
		It says, it will unite what it describes as America's first conservatives, Christians, anti-globalists, and nationalists.
		Uh, yeah.
		Yeah, exactly.
		So in other words, completely legitimate, mainstream, conservative people.
		Yeah, Christians, God forbid.
		Anti-globalists, so like the President.
		Nationalists, like the President.
		All of these terms are things that the President describes himself as, and the President got 63 million votes in the election.
		So, I don't understand how it's... Oh, they're repackaging white nationalism in the alt-right.
		Well, what they really are is everything the president describes himself as.
		Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
unidentified		Whoops.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We'll look at this link in a moment.
		This is even more disgusting, this report by the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights.
		It says, Leading the effort, the report says, are two activists who promoted and participated in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
		The gathering ended with a white nationalist plowing his car into a group of counter-protesters, killing one.
		Which we are not.
		It's two activists who promoted and participated in.
		Yeah, I was technically at the Unite the Right rally and I know Patrick Casey was too.
		But obviously we are not in the same vein as anybody that was speaking there, right?
		It says, this is an attempt to replace the old label of alt-right, which got pretty toxic after Charlottesville, and try to create new coalitions on university campuses and in and around the Trump orbit.
		It's true that we're trying to create coalitions on campuses, but this is a benign activity.
		The real thing is that they're saying that we're replacing the label of the alt-right, which is not true.
		We fought against the alt-right and we continue to fight against the alt-right to this day.
		We have fought to differentiate ourselves from the alt-right.
		And the differentiation is not arbitrary or trivial.
		You know, if you've been watching my show or been watching these streams for the past three years, three years on last Wednesday, I think, You understand that it's not a question of, we're just taking the alt-right label and replacing it.
		The guy that coined the term alt-right, Richard Spencer, we have substantive disagreements.
		The only difference is, our disagreement with the alt-right is not like, they're bad guys, they're whatever.
		It's like, no, they are a legitimate faction on the political right, and here are the areas where we are not in alignment.
		And that's the rub.
		If you say you're not alt-right, from our side, what do our people tell us?
		If I say I'm not alt-right, I've disavowed the alt-right.
		Well, they'll say you're cucking, you're cucking.
		Well, that's not true.
		We're not saying the same thing that the media is, and we're also not differentiating ourselves just for the benefit of the media.
		We're differentiating ourselves because we are different.
		You know, the alt-right, if you look at its main proponents, people like Spencer and the right stuff, and even a lot of the new European right type people, they are progressive, they are liberal or post-liberal, they're definitely post-American.
		You could even say they're post-nationalist.
		They're not religious, they're not Christian.
		You know, all of that is set against what we represent, which is true, excuse me, truly conservative, truly reactionary, Christian.
		In particular, there's a strong Catholic faction on our side.
		We are not post-American.
		We are American nationalists.
		And we're also not liberals.
		You know, like I said, we're true reactionaries.
		So, you know, you could say whatever you want about the two groups, but they're not the same.
		You know, you could say, as an alt-right person, as an America First person, or as a non-biased, unbiased bystander, that the two are substantially different.
		And this is the argument that they've been making in which Charlie Kirk and Shapiro are going to make is that we just repackaged.
		We just took the alt-right and we just changed a couple of things around and now it's the Groypers.
		But everybody who is familiar with any of the divisions in the right wing knows that's simply not true.
		We may talk about the same problems, but the problems are universal.
		All right-wing people, ostensibly right-wing people in America, are talking about the same problems, which is the problem of immigration, the problem of globalism.
		I mean, you've got everybody from the president, and even, by the way, people on the left, even people on the progressive left talking about this stuff, all the way through to the alt-right.
		So to say because we talk about the same subjects makes us the same is just about the most ignorant thing you could possibly say.
		But that's the crux of this report that was done by this, you know, Human Rights Whatever, and this article.
		That's the main thrust of it, which is it's a repackage.
		It just took the name.
		It's like, no, we've been feuding with all those people for years.
		And somebody says in the chat, they're mostly feminists.
		Yeah, there's another distinction.
		So, and by the way, I don't say to distinguish To clarify, I'm not saying that we're different.
		With anticipating that the media would leave us alone.
		Because that's what people used to say for years.
		Even when I started, after Charlottesville, when I started to say, you know, these guys are trouble, alt-right is not really where we are, the common criticism from the right was, oh, you're just cucking for the media.
		Oh, you're just saying you're not alt-right for the media.
		We even heard that from the alt-right, from You know, people who are adjacent to our side or our faction.
		People say, oh, the only reason you don't describe yourself as alt-right is you think the media won't go after you.
		Well, that's not true.
		The media goes after everybody.
		They go after Turning Point.
		They go after Ben Shapiro.
		They go after Steven Crowder.
		They go after Turning Point in this article.
		So it's not a matter of that.
		It's just a matter of distinction.
	You know, I don't say I'm not a member of Turning Point USA.
	To please the media.
	I'm not a member of Turning Point USA, in the same way that I don't say I'm not alt-right.
	If I was alt-right, I would say it.
	And I don't not say it because I want the media to... I mean, they'll go after me no matter what, but it's just because it's different, because it's distinct.
	Anyway.
	It says, those are the two main... where were we?
	Okay, here.
	It says, this is an attempt to replace the Alt-Right, says Devin Burghardt, Executive Director of the Institute and co-author of the 64-page report, From Alt-Right to Groyper, White Nationalists Rebrand.
	It's a rebranding, yeah, not true at all.
	Those are the two main targets of recruitment for them right now.
	Recruitment!
	I love how when literally anybody else engages in political activity, that's legitimate, that's our democracy at work, but when we try to spread our ideas, it's recruitment!
	We're recruiting!
unidentified		I don't know what the fuck that means.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't run an organization, I do a show on YouTube.
		He's recruiting people!
		Okay, you know, in the same way that Bernie Sanders is recruiting people and, you know, Pete Buttigieg is recruiting people today in New Hampshire.
		They're recruiting!
		Those are the targets of their recruitment!
		Uh, yeah, we want to convince people that we're right about politics.
		That's kind of this vaunted idea of democracy that you guys love so much.
		It says the strategy will have its trial run at Kansas State, where the formation of a new organization was announced last month.
		The first meeting was January 28th.
		America First Students is led by Jaden McNeil, former president of the Kansas State chapter of Turning Point USA, blah blah blah.
		A Kansas State spokeswoman said Tuesday the university would review the report and get back to the star with a response.
		And this is what, at the end of the day, this is about.
		Now, McNeil could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday at the time of protests.
		He said he wished the two sides could come to an understanding.
		Instead of having a protest, I wish they could come and discuss our differences.
unidentified		Okay, so this is about something that happened, like, years ago.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
		It says, now the report says McNeil has joined forces with Nick Fuentes and Pat Casey, whom the Institute describes as white nationalists.
		Which is not true.
		Which Patrick Casey even explicitly did a Twitter thread, like, Uh, two or three months ago.
		Detailing exactly how he is not a white nationalist.
		And, uh, I've never been a white nationalist.
		Fuentes is a far-right YouTuber and podcaster, and Casey is head of the American Identity Movement.
		Fuentes and Casey announced the formation of America First Students at a Groyper Leadership Summit.
		This is just literally a lie.
		The America First Students didn't even start until January.
		Maybe I would have to go back and watch the tape, but we did not announce the America First Students thing at the Groyper Leadership Summit.
		We talked about how Jaden dissolved the Turning Point chapter, but America First Students wasn't announced until Kansas State got back from winter break in January.
		So this is just factually wrong.
		This is just a fucking lie.
		This is just a straight-up, verifiable, demonstrable lie.
		You're a fucking liar.
		What's her name?
		Yeah, Judy Thomas in Kansas City.
		Who you can see in white pages.
		He's a fucking liar.
		Just a straight up, and it's an easy, it's an easy fact check.
		You can go and watch the Groyper Leadership Summit video.
		We did not announce America First Students then, because we didn't even think of a name at that point.
		We were discussing the creation of this, and we gave Jayden some advice, and we gave him some pointers and everything, and you know, a group of people, right-wing people involved in the Groyper Wars, had some input in this.
		Michelle Malkin included, by the way.
		We didn't even know what we were going to call this, what direction it was going to take, anything like that.
		I don't think he'd even filed the paperwork at that point for this organization.
		And they're saying, oh, they announced, where is it?
		Fuentes and Casey announced the formation.
		That didn't happen!
		That is a lie!
		Anyway, it says Groyper is the name of a far-right meme based on a cartoon toad, co-opted by Whitenail, of course.
		From day one, the Groypers have been as slippery as the toad for which they are named.
		Please, coming from literal liars.
		These people are scum.
		And that's always... It's the same old... They cry out in pain as they strike you.
		Slippery as the toad for which they are named.
		That is literally the opposite of what is happening.
		We are the most straightforward, upfront, brazen, overt... You know, we go and confront these people whenever we see them.
		Will Sommers, Jared Holtz... And it's them!
		It's they that slither away and then type on their computer lies.
		Yeah, we're slippery.
		You're the fucking slippery rat.
		Fucking rat.
		Charles Tanner.
		Scum.
		As part of their strategy to become more mainstream, the report says the Groipers are holding an America First political action conference in Washington, D.C.
		As part of their strategy to become more mainstream.
		Yeah, please.
		Last month, Fuentes congratulated Neil.
		Factual.
		Flintus and Casey could not be reached for comment.
unidentified		We never got asked for comment!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Flintus and Casey could not be reached for comment, but if denied being white nationalists... Yeah, we were not reached for comment at all.
		Could not be reached.
		Didn't even try.
		What's her name again?
		Let's get back on the name.
unidentified		Judy L. Thomas.
unidentified		Let me just put that in my notes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Judy Thomas.
unidentified		Judy.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, where are we?
		They'll say this is just liberals trying to taint them, that they're traditionalist conservatives who support Christian values.
		Correct.
		But all of the key leadership influencers hold ideals that any rational person would categorize as white nationalists.
		Such as what?
		Such as what views?
		What could be described as white nationalist?
		Flintus and Casey both represent this new generation of white nationalists.
		It's a whole new ballgame.
		These aren't millennials.
		This is white nationalism.
		And this is what Michelle Malkin said the other day on Telegram.
		It's the point-and-stutter strategy.
unidentified		Oh, look!
unidentified		There!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Anyone would recognize it!
		It's new generation!
		There's no substance to this.
		This is just... It's literally lies and scaremongering.
		Literally, it's lies.
		Things that are not true.
		And scaremongering.
		And name-calling.
		Let's see.
		McNeil has described America First Students as a campus conservative organization defined by our support for closed borders, traditional families, the American worker, and Christian values.
		Conservative Inc.
		has brainwashed many students into believing that globalist policies constitute conservatism when clearly they do not.
		America First students would advocate for the broader goal of defending America against globalism, affirming the vision laid out by President Trump in his inaugural address.
		The organization plans to start chapters at other universities.
		We're focusing on Kansas State and then branching out to other campuses.
		And then I'm doing a college tour.
		It's too soon to tell whether America First Students is a white nationalist organization.
		They're promoting an agenda aligned with white nationalism.
		But given that they're participating in the large Groyper activity, it's a sign for concern.
		So it's concern trolling.
		Totally disgusting.
		And this stuff just, like, disgusts me to my core.
		It's like, I get this stuff all day long, but Jaden is somebody who's literally done nothing wrong, and they're running this hit piece, and they bring up Charlottesville, and Heather Heyer getting killed.
		Heather Heyer getting killed is like the new Holocaust.
		Or the new slavery, or the new whatever.
		This is an article, ostensibly, about a campus conservative organization on Kansas State, and they find a way to tie it into Heather Heyer.
		Which, by the way, I had nothing to do with any of the organizers of Charlottesville, the speakers, the organization that the guy driving the car was a part of.
		Well, it's like, you know, seven degrees of separation.
		Well, Jaden is friends with Nick, and Nick is friends with Patrick, and Patrick and Nick were at Charlottesville, and other people at Charlottesville did this three years ago.
		And therefore, what is the headline?
		White Nationalists Turn Focus to Campuses with Trial Run.
		And they could say, oh, well, we're not calling them white nationalists, but that's exactly what Judy Thomas is doing.
		Fucking old bitch.
		Old bag.
		Look at this disgusting liar.
		I swear, these people make me sick.
		People should go up to this person with a camera in her face and ask her about these lies.
		Somebody should go up to her, and not in a violent way, not in an intimidating way, but just like these scumbags do and say, hey, Judy Thomas, these people should never get a break.
		Why did you lie about Jade McNeil?
		Why did you lie about America First?
		Why are you a liar?
		Why do you write lies?
		Why do you write libel for a living?
		You said in this article that America First Student was announced at the Goyper Summit.
		Why did you lie about that?
		Why did you make that up?
		Why are you trying to smear a 21-year-old conservative?
		What's wrong with you?
		Is that what a responsible journalist does?
		Does the Kansas City Star promote libel?
		Why are people like this not ever held accountable for this?
		And I'll tell you what, I think in this case they will be held accountable.
		I've heard that Jayden is talking to lawyers about this because this is like a clear-cut, this is a clear-cut case of libel.
		Just straight up, that's what it is.
		There's no way around that.
		It's just straight up lies.
		And they're malicious lies, too.
		These are not benign lies.
		These are lies that are designed to hurt Jaden McNeil as a person.
		This is designed to get people to harass Jaden McNeil.
		They know full well when they write this stuff.
		The intention here is so that people will intimidate and harass Jaden.
		They're going to tattle on him to the school and write these lies so the school shuts down the organization.
		These are very bad people.
	And their lies have consequences.
	Not really.
unidentified		The music's not really fitting the mood here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But, um, so yeah.
		So that's Jude.
		What's her name?
		Judy Thomas.
		Really just gross, gross stuff.
		These people are unscrupulous.
		They think they're good people.
		That's a thing.
		They think they're like the best, nice people.
		They're not.
		You're a liar!
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, that's the article.
		Let's listen to the podcast by... Somebody's linking a tweet by Michelle Malkin.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the article.
unidentified		Let's listen to the podcast by...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Somebody's linking a tweet by Michelle Malkin.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Did Michelle Malkin tweet about it?
unidentified		I'm going to check.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm on Jaden's timeline.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll check and see.
unidentified		Here we go.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Jayden says, this journalist reached out for comment just one hour before publishing this thoroughly libelous hit piece.
		This is disgusting and the KC star should be ashamed of malpractice.
		This is part of a coordinated campaign to silence America First conservatives.
		Yeah, totally true.
unidentified		Everybody retweet this, by the way.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll try to put this link in chat.
unidentified		I don't know if I can post links.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so put that in chat.
		And we got Malkin.
		So true.
		And, you know, Michelle Malkin is really, like, critical in all of this.
		We are so lucky to have her in the movement.
		settlement now they're smearing a kansas state america first maga undergrad who dares to question open borders inc so true and you know michelle malkin is really like critical in all of this we are so lucky to have her in the movement and i'm i'm not blowing smoke you know me i'm
		I'm not very, uh... When it comes to compliments and kind words, I... Regrettably, I should probably be more kind, but I use them quite sparingly.
		But Michelle Malkin is really so critical to what we're doing with America First.
		Because everybody recognizes that her character is unimpeachable when it comes to this America First stuff.
		At least from the conservative perspective.
		You know?
		Like, no conservative can say that Michelle Malkin is like a neo-Nazi.
		That's ridiculous and insane.
		And everybody would recognize it as such.
		Think about the damage that they have done to themselves on conservative ink by thinking that they could smear Michelle Malkin.
		You know?
		That they now have to say, Michelle Malkin is, she's on the blacklist.
		She's evil Nazi white nationalist.
		That's, and everybody recognizes how insane that is.
		Any mainstream normal conservative would roll their eyes and say, yeah, this is insanity.
		And that's why she's so important.
		Because with somebody like me or somebody like Jaden or Patrick, people that aren't as well known, it's very easy to smear people like that. - Mm.
		If you're not as well-known, you don't have a track record, obviously the people with the bigger media guns can create the narrative.
		With somebody like Michelle Malkin who's stepping up, and she's got so much integrity to defend what's right here, are they going to now turn and say, oh, Michelle Malkin's This evil alt-right, how absurd is that?
		She was in the tea party.
		She's been around for 20 years doing this America First stuff.
		Anyway, we're going to listen to the podcast here.
		The Charlie Kirk podcast.
		Let me see, did anybody else put anything out?
		Let me check my timeline.
		Somebody says even Coulter wouldn't throw her hat in like Malkin has.
		Yeah.
		Yeah, and that was disappointing that Anna Coulter didn't, but, you know... That's okay.
unidentified		That's okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We can make do without her.
unidentified		But, anyway.
		Okay, so it looks like that was America First so it looks like that was America First Conservatives just got banned.
		Yeah, okay, see?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I told ya, it's, uh, it's happening.
		Conservative Inc.
		strikes back!
unidentified		Who's that?
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna listen to the podcast.
		That's okay.
		That's okay, we're gonna win.
		These people lie, they're unscrupulous, they think their smear tactics will work, but we are better than they are.
		We're smarter, we're stronger, more resilient.
		We're gonna crush them.
unidentified		But let's see, we've got... What do we have?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We have a Ninjet, actually, in chat.
		A Ninjet.
		Jay Roch versus Manicka, Khan Inc.
		and Alt-Right are bogus boners from your favorite leaf.
		Well, hey, thank you so much for the Ninjet.
		Really appreciate it.
		And big agree on the message.
		We've got some Ninjaginis as well.
		Tanju says, thanks for the content.
		Yeah, no problem, buddy.
		Maxxie Bros says, one lemon in chat equals one groiping.
		Yes, yes, lemons in chat.
		Billy Mays says, in my opinion, Khan Inc is just too late at this point.
		Their tactics only work on dumb Gen Xers.
		Yeah.
		They have totally lost.
		It's over before it's begun.
unidentified		Trust me on that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		GS senses these attacks will get more frequent and more vicious.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Keep your head up, King.
unidentified		My head is held up high.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing the...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's the Bobby Shmurda dance?
unidentified		What is that?
		What do they call that when Bobby Shmurda does a dance in that video?
		I forget what it's called.
		So obviously my head is held up high.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Schmoney!
		The Schmoney Dance!
		We're doing the Schmoney Dance!
		Yeah, cause we're gonna win.
		I have complete and total confidence.
unidentified		We have God on our side at the end of the day.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're doing the Schmoney Dance.
		Roypers are doing the Schmoney Dance.
		Alright, I'll bring down the volume here.
		And we'll listen to our podcast.
		Actually, I'll turn off the music while we listen to the podcast.
		So, if you guys didn't catch it, Ben Shapiro went on the Charlie Kirk podcast and they talked about the groipers for like 10 minutes or so.
		So, we're gonna take a listen, see what they have to say about us.
unidentified		Let's see, where's our... Here we go.
		Thank you for listening to this Podcast One production.
		Now available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, PodcastOne.com, and anywhere else you get your podcasts.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, I sit down with the great and the legendary Ben Shapiro.
		We talk all things alt-right, common good conservatives versus natural rights and limited government conservatives, and the fate of neoliberalism.
		I touch a lot of this on our podcast, so you guys can email us, always freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		By the way, I should add, nobody listens to this podcast.
		I should throw it out there that I don't know anybody that listens to this podcast and it's actually hard for me to imagine that people are tuning in reliably to Podcast One.
		That's a thing that you gotta recognize with Charlie Kirk.
		His entire following is completely astroturfed and basically not real.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, uh, I don't believe there are many people out there that are, like, diehard, like, Charlie fans.
		If Charlie Kirk was just tweeting about, like, his lifestyle, I don't think anybody would really care.
		Uh, anyway, let's continue.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		So touch on this on my upcoming book, MAGA Doctrine.
		Pre-order your copy today found on Amazon and your book provider.
		Type in MAGA Doctrine and pre-order your copy.
		You guys are going to love this exclusive conversation with the great Ben Shapiro.
		But before we go any further, make sure you're subscribed to The Charlie Kirk Show.
		Type in Charlie Kirk Show to your podcast provider right now.
		Take out your phone, Charlie Kirk Show, press that subscribe button, leave us a five-star rating, and enjoy this exclusive Give him a one-star.
		Yeah, pull it up and instead give him a one-star rating.
unidentified		Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
		Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
		I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pull it up and instead give him a one-star rating.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Can I get iTunes podcast on browser, I wonder?
unidentified		I wonder if this will take me to the podcast world.
unidentified		Maybe not.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
		Well, like Charlie said, pull your phone out.
		I'll do it on my phone, actually.
		Pull your phone out.
		Let's give him a one-star rating.
		I'll pull it up on Apple Podcasts.
		It's Groyper time.
		Groyper time.
		The first action of Groyper War 2.
		Search Charlie Kirk Show.
		There it is.
		Bing bong.
		okay Charlie Kirk and let's he's got 10,000 ratings that's gonna be hard to beat actually but we're gonna go in there that's why we need all hands on deck we give them a rating without subscribing oh yeah here we go okay I just gave him a one-star rating can I do less than one star well there's my rating I'm leaving a one-star rating
		And I'm going to write a review.
		Do I have to sign in?
		No, I don't.
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		My review is going to say, GROIPER, and the review says, Get GROIPED.
		Lying scum.
		Okay, get GROIPED.
		And, uh, I'm going to send that.
		My nickname, Nick Fuentes.
		Nickname was taken!
unidentified		Ah!
		Nick J. Fuentes.
		How's that?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Feedback sent.
		So we're leaving a one star review.
		Boom!
		Just happened on iTunes.
		Alright!
		Let's get into it now.
unidentified		Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks!
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I want to thank Charlie.
		He's an incredible guy.
		His spirit, his love of this country.
		He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
unidentified		We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
unidentified		That's why we are here.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Ben, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thanks for having me.
unidentified		Quite an honor.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		So, I guess everyone is hearing and looking at the public enemy number one and two of the alt-right from this last semester.
unidentified		Yeah, that's good times, sir.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		By the way... What are you making?
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the party, pal.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		By the way, that's the introduction.
		Doesn't it show you how rent-free we are that Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk sit down in February?
		In February!
		A month and a half, I want to say, after the fact.
		A little bit later than that, maybe something like six or seven weeks after the turning point SAS.
		And the first thing they say, public enemies of the alt-right!
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		So, uh, geez, what do you make of all that, especially in the last months?
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you've been battling the alt-right and, you know, this kind of... Well, it's been years long.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		From where I sit, it's been going on for a while, right?
		I mean, they've been targeting me since 2015, 2016.
		And the resurgence was sort of surprising.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was a little unexpected.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the planning, I will say, I have admiration for their planning abilities via their various posting boards.
		I think that what it demonstrates is a couple things.
		One, there are a group of people who feel as though their questions are not being answered in mainstream fashion.
		And I think that because those questions are not being answered in mainstream fashion, they're looking for people to answer them in the worst possible ways.
		And that's a point Steven Pinker has made before.
		I think it's exactly right.
		I think that it's incumbent on people in politics to give answers to questions, even if the questions happen to be based on bad ideas.
		With that said, what I'm concerned about and confused by is groups of people who pretend that opposition to the alt-right is somehow opposition to restrictions on immigration, or that opposition to the alt-right is somehow based on opposition to social conservatism.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But that's literally what it is.
		But that's literally what it is.
		That's exactly what it is.
		We are not the alt-right.
		We are immigration restrictionists and social conservatives.
		So he's saying that, well, they're trying to conflate opposition to the alt-right with opposition to these things.
		It's like it's the opposite.
		You are conflating immigration restriction and social conservatism with the alt-right.
		That's completely wrong.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		That's a lie.
		I mean, these are very, very distinct philosophies and ideologies.
		And the fact that the alt-right is masquerading as sort of a mainstream slash paleocon movement as opposed to what they are, which is Paleoconservatism is white majoritarian.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Notice how he threw that in there, because I've described myself as a white majoritarian in the past.
		Notice how he threw that in there.
		These are very different things.
		He says there are white separatists or white majoritarians masquerading as paleo-conservatives.
		Paleo-conservatives do believe in keeping a white majority.
		You know, Patrick Buchanan, it's actually interesting, If you go back to, I forget which one it was, but there was an American Renaissance conference, I think it was maybe 1992 or a little bit later, and there was a panel that was held on a book by Sam Francis, or rather, on a book by Pat Buchanan.
		It was about the book Death of the West.
		So maybe it was probably then.
		It was later than 1992, obviously.
		They did a panel on Pat Buchanan's book, Death of the West, and Sam Francis got up during this American Renaissance conference and he said that actually Patrick Buchanan was considering a different name for the book, Death of the West, and I'll find it for you.
		As I wrote it down somewhere.
		Sam Francis was, of course, Samuel Francis, if you don't know, Samuel T. Francis.
		He was a writer for the Washington Times in the 1990s, very prominent paleocon thinker, and he was a close confidant of Patrick Buchanan.
		And Patrick Buchanan sort of asked him for his advice on a couple of aspects of the book Death of the West.
		A few of the things that Pat Buchanan asked Sam Francis about is, number one, Patrick Buchanan asked Francis if he should cite Jared Taylor by name, because Patrick Buchanan brings up the color of crime in the book, Death of the West, and he asked Francis if he should cite Jared Taylor, if that would be too controversial.
		And he also asked about what the name of the book should be.
		And the original name of the book, Death of the West, was actually called, let me see if I can find it, it was actually called, The Death of Whitey, How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Race and Civilization.
		That was the original title of Death of the West.
		So let me pull it up on Amazon so people can see the cover and maybe you'll know what I'm talking about.
		And by the way, Patrick Buchanan is like the paleocon.
		He's right up there with Peter Brimelow, Sam Francis, Jared Taylor, and Paul Gottfried as the Paleocons.
		Obviously, obviously, Patrick Buchanan is right there.
		As the grandfather of America First, paleoconservatism.
		And this book, The Death of the West, How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization, was originally supposed to be called The Death of Whitey, How Dying Populations and Immigration Imperils Our Race in Civilization.
		That was the original title, according to Sam Francis, something along those lines.
		And Patrick Buchanan changed it.
		Anyway, people should read this book, but... So, when Ben Shapiro says, and let me see if I can rewind it a little bit, is that possible?
		He says, oh, they're trying to masquerade as paleocons, but really they just care about the white majority!
		Well, what the f- I have it right here!
unidentified		Let me dig it out here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I have it right here!
unidentified		Signed!
unidentified		Signed!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Signed by Patrick Buchanan.
		Patrick Buchanan's article about Charlottesville.
		Charlottesville, Virginia.
		The rally, which is supposedly the neo-Nazi alt-right rally.
		What did Patrick Buchanan say?
		He said, let me go in.
		He wrote, looking back over the history of a Western...
		It says, another term applied to the Unite the Right gathering is that they are white supremacists.
		Looking back over the history of a Western civilization, which we call great, were not the explorers who came out of Spain, Portugal, France, Holland, and England, all white supremacists.
		They conquered in the name of mother countries all the lands they discovered, imposed their rule upon the indigenous peoples, and vanquished and eradicated the native-born who stood in their way, who during the centuries-long discovery and conquest of the New World really believed that the lives of the indigenous peoples were of equal worth with those of the colonizers.
		They believed European man had the right to rule the world.
		Beginning in the 16th century, Western imperialists ruled much of what was called the civilized world.
		Was not the British Empire, one of the great civilizing forces in human history, a manifestation of British racial superiority?
		And if being a segregationist disqualifies one from being venerated in our brave new world, what do we do with Woodrow Wilson, who thought Birth of a Nation a splendid film, and who resegregated the U.S.
		government?
		In 1955, Prime Minister Churchill, imperialist to the core, urged his cabinet to consider the slogan, Keep England White.
		Nor is a belief in the superiority of one's race, religion, tribe, and culture unique to the West.
		What is unique, what is an experiment without precedent, is what we are about today.
		We have condemned and renounced the scarlet sins of the men who made America and embraced diversity, inclusivity, and equality.
		Our new America is to be a land where all races, tribes, creeds, and cultures congregate, are treated equally, and all move ever closer to an equality of results through the regular redistribution of opportunity, wealth, and power.
		We are going to become the first universal nation.
		All men are created equal is an ideological statement.
		Where is the scientific or historic proof for it?
		Are we building our utopia on a sandpile of ideology and hope?
		Nevertheless, on to Richmond.
		That's THE Paleocon!
		Wrote that.
		And signed it!
		And signed it for me, by the way.
		That was his article about Charlottesville three years ago.
		What does Ben Shapiro say?
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		mainstream slash paleocon movement as opposed to what they are which is restrictions on immigration or that opposition to the alt-right is somehow based on opposition to social conservatism.
		That's a lie.
		These are very, very distinct causes and very distinct philosophies and ideologies.
		And the fact that the alt-right is masquerading as sort of a mainstream slash paleocon movement as opposed to what they are, which is pretty overtly a white separatist, white majoritarian movement.
		The fact that people are willing to buy that is – Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're masquerading as paleocons, when really, we are people that, in some capacity, talk about white identity, is what it boils down to.
		White separatist, white majoritarian, whatever, whatever.
		And look, You know, I choose to just say at this point that I think, you know, white identity might be important, right?
		I've never described myself as a white segregationist.
		I one time said I was white majoritarian.
		I think there should be a white majority in the United States.
		But in any case, whether you're white supremacist, white majoritarian, white separatist, well, the paleocon Patrick Buchanan had some interesting words to say about that.
		And he's gonna say that we are, we're masquerading.
		We're masquerading.
		And also, let's not forget that Ben Shapiro hates paleocons.
		Hates them.
		Where's Ben Shapiro's list of the alt-rights?
		I think he put Patrick Buchanan on his list of alt-rights, didn't he?
		Let me see if I can find it.
		He put out a list of... You know what I'm talking about on Twitter.
		Yeah, here it is.
		As per your silly request, Hugh Hewitt, here are twenty alt-right-friendly or alt-right people outlets.
		Breitbart, Ann Coulter, Milo, Donald Trump, Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, Steve Saylor, Mike Cerner, da-da-da-da-da.
		Okay, Peter Brimelow is a paleo-conservative.
		VDare is paleo-conservative.
		Jared Taylor is a paleo-conservative.
		Ron Paul's a paleo-libertarian.
		Steve Saylor, paleo-conservative.
		Pat Buchanan, paleo-conservative.
		And he says in this podcast, oh, the alt-right is trying to rebrand themselves as paleoconservative.
		Well, that's funny because you have called all the paleocons alt-right.
		You say, oh, they're really white majoritarians, but they call themselves paleoconservatives.
		Pat Buchanan was going to call his book, The Death of Whitey, Immigration, Invasion, Imperils Our Race, and People.
		The paleocon, I think you could say, is a white majoritarian.
		So it's just straight up, just straight up lying.
		Again, just straight up lying.
		Just like with that journalist.
		They just lie.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		It's foolishness, obviously.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Well, and what is important to talk about, and you mentioned it briefly, is there are well-intentioned students that get caught up- This Charlie Kirk is such a bonehead.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, the best is that you can tell how dishonest they are by the way that they talk.
		You can hear it in their voice, how phony it is.
		Try and stomach that aspect of it while we listen to this.
unidentified		Well, and there are students that have legitimate questions.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shut up.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		...in this nonsense, and ask fine questions, and then there's really, really bad stuff.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I was getting questions about dancing Israelis, and I had no idea what the hell they were talking about.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		I can tell.
		I know!
		Charlie has no idea what they're talking about.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I was getting questions... Look at what's going on because of what you did!
		I was getting questions about dancing Israelis, I know.
		How about another question?
		Dancing Israelis?
		Yeah, it's in the Freedom of Information Act.
		Hello?
		I like how... Let's listen to what he says about that for a moment, then I'll pull up the FOIA.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		...and ask fine questions, and then there's really, really bad stuff.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I was getting questions about dancing Israelis, and I had no idea what the hell they were talking about.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		I could tell.
		I saw that clip, and I was like, Charlie has no idea what they're talking about.
		And let's reverse their meme-ry.
		You don't know what the hell they're talking about, yeah.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		It's beyond evil what they're insinuating.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Right, of course.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		And the fact that it was popping up the way it was as quickly, and I was trying to tell people... So he says, this is evil!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It is evil what they're insinuating!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, look!
unidentified		Freedom of Information Act request!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		For nearly two decades, one of the most overlooked and little-known arrests made in the aftermath of 9-11 was that of the so-called High Fivers, or the Dancing Israelis.
		However, new information released by the FBI on May 7th has brought fresh scrutiny to the possibility that the Dancing Israelis, at least two of whom were known Mossad operatives, had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
		I didn't know anything about that.
		Shortly after 8.46 a.m.
		on the day of the attacks, just minutes after the first plane struck the World Trade Center, five men, later revealed to be Israeli nationals, had positioned themselves in the parking lot of the Doric apartment complex in Union City, New Jersey, where they were seen taking pictures and filming the attacks, while also celebrating the destruction of the towers and high-fiving each other.
		At least one eyewitness interviewed by the FBI had seen the Israeli van in the parking lot as early as 8 a.m.
		that day, more than 40 minutes prior to the attack.
		The story received coverage in U.S.
		mainstream media at the time, but has since been largely forgotten.
		The men, Sivan Kersberg, Paul Kersberg, Oded Elner, Yaron Shemuel, and Omar Marmari, were subsequently apprehended by law enforcement and claimed to be Israeli tourists on a working holiday in the U.S.
		where they were employed by a moving company, Urban Moving Systems.
		Upon his arrest, Sivan Kersberg told the arresting officer, We are Israeli.
		We are not your problem.
		Your problems are our problems.
		The Palestinians are the problem.
		The official story has been that these individuals, while they engaged in immature behavior by celebrating and being visibly happy in their documenting of the 9-11 attacks, had no prior knowledge of the attack.
		However, newly released FBI copies of the photos taken by the five Israelis strongly suggest that these individuals had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
		The copies of the photos were obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request made by a private citizen who is immature.
		Anyway, this show is not about all of this, but, you know, it's funny.
		It's just funny that he brings that up.
		They were talking about dancing Israelis?
		Yeah, actually we were, and that's a legitimate thing to talk about.
		And the Levon Affair, and the USS Liberty, and all of it is all fair game.
		Well, some people might have legitimate... Do you see what that is, though?
		That's gatekeeping.
		Some people might have legitimate questions.
		Ask me these questions and that's okay.
		That's fine.
		But these questions are bad questions.
		These are evil questions.
		Bad questions.
		Off limits.
		Some people ask good questions and that's okay.
		And there are some people that are fine.
		They're allowed in the gate.
		But there are other people that are bad.
		Evil questions.
		That's what that is.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Um, and it obviously spread and, you know, and I think then it was obvious, you know, stamped out quickly.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Stamped out!
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Stamped out!
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		I think it collapsed as soon as it met the light of day.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Collapsed!
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Meaning that I think that at the very beginning people didn't know sort of how to deal with it and then you started just answering questions as they came and, you know, I did the same thing.
		I gave the speech at Stanford where I went directly after them and just quoted them.
		And then just answered their questions.
		And their questions, which they have five or six of them that they would ask repeatedly, are not questions that are particularly difficult to answer, but they're questions that had not been answered specifically because they're very often badly motivated.
		Yeah.
		And because they're badly motivated questions, which they have five or six of them, I think it collapsed is what they're talking about, yeah.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Beyond evil, what they're insinuating.
		Right, of course.
		The fact that it was popping up the way it was as quickly as, and I was trying to tell people, um, and it obviously spread and, you know, and I think then it was obviously, you know, stamped out.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		I think more than stamped out, I think it collapsed as soon as it met the light of day.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Meaning that I think that at the very beginning people didn't know sort of how to deal with it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It collapsed?
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		And then you started just answering questions.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		This was the end of it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This was the end of it.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		You know, I did the same thing.
		I gave a speech at Stanford where I went directly after them and just quoted them.
		And then just answered their questions.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		They're stamped out.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		And their questions, which they have five or six of them that they would ask repeatedly, are not questions that are particularly difficult to answer, but they're questions that had not been answered specifically because they're very often badly motivated.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		And because they're badly motivated, the temptation is to say, okay, well, I'm not going to answer it.
		Well, that's exactly what they want in many cases, which is, oh, well, they wouldn't answer the question because they didn't know the answer.
		They wouldn't answer the question.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		It didn't fall apart.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		- To talk about it, yeah.
		- To talk about it, yeah. - To talk about it, yeah.
		- To talk about it, yeah.
		- To talk about it, yeah. - To talk about it, yeah.
		- To talk about it, yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		- To talk about it, yeah. - To talk about it, yeah. - To talk about it, yeah.
		The complete opposite happened.
		If anything, it was them that fell apart.
		What do you mean it fell apart?
		We carried on until the end of Charlie Kirk's tour.
		We covered, I think, every stop except for the one in the very beginning.
		Charlie Kirk's Culture War tour had, I think, like nine or ten events, and it got started on the second event, and we were presented every single one until the end, including the SAS conference.
		So I don't know, you know, and this is where the verbal trickery comes in.
		Well, it collapsed.
		It's over.
		It's done.
		I mean, you could say that.
		You could say that.
		And maybe the baby boomers that listen to your podcast who don't know any better will be like, oh, OK.
		Well, apparently there was this alt-right thing, and then it fell apart.
		But everybody who saw the events that happened know that's not true.
		And everybody on Twitter can see that that's not true.
		The people that have come over.
		It's just like the biggest cope in the world.
		Wow, we answered their questions and now it's over.
		Wrong.
		You went at Stanford.
		You answered, I think, like a handful of people.
		You answered like five questions.
		And in any case, you are afraid to talk about these things.
		The reason that they're afraid to talk about these things is not because they won't shut down somebody who wanders into one of their events.
		It's because they will not debate these things.
		They will not tweet about them.
		They will not debate these things with anybody involved.
		That's why they say, oh, people just have bad intentions asking these questions.
		And some questions are good and some questions are evil.
		So which is it then?
		Are you answering them or are it evil questions asked by evil people who we just can't engage with?
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Were bad questions, and questions that had rotten central fallacies.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Now, does that mean, again, to conflate the bad questions with some issues that... Rotten central fallacies.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What are the rotten central fallacies?
		Charlie, you say you're America First, but you support the F-1 visa program.
		You support the EB-5 visa program.
		What's the... I'm sorry, I'm missing it.
		Well Charlie, you say you're for American workers, but you promote an immigration policy that favors foreign workers, and this policy is more radical than Silicon Valley.
		What's the deal with that?
		What do you mean?
		Rotten central fallacy?
		It's not particularly good questions.
		Seems like a fine and fair question to me.
		Not every question was knocked out of the park, but for the most part, why did Charlie Kirk change his positions on immigration if they were bad questions?
		If they were not particularly good questions loaded with rotten fallacies in the middle, why did Charlie Kirk change two of his positions on immigration because as a direct consequence of those questions?
		The questions were so bad and fallacious that Charlie Kirk did a complete 180 on the F-1 and EB-5 visas and did a complete 180 on the number of legal immigrants who should be admitted every year.
		So which is it?
		Because I have a feeling that if it was a totally fallacious, ill-intentioned, evil, and not particularly good question, Charlie Kirk wouldn't have went from saying, we should staple green cards to diplomas, to saying, I made a mistake, I no longer support that.
		So it's all just a big lie.
		It's all just a big sham.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		The sort of people we're attracted to, I think, is a mistake.
		I think there are a lot of people who are attracted to questions about immigration restrictionism, for example.
		They're saying, OK, well, it's true that the Republican Party has been too open borders.
		I mean, that's something that I basically agree with.
		I mean, you can go find interviews of me.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		I remember you talking about this five, six years ago.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can find hour-long conversations between me and Ann Coulter about immigration restrictionism.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Wait.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, wait a second.
		Wait a second.
		Well, well, I think immigration restriction is perfectly legitimate.
		There's the alt-right and there's immigration restriction.
		I had conversations with who?
		Ann Coulter about immigration restriction.
		Oh, Ben Shapiro's an immigration restrictionist too.
		Why?
		We had a conversation about immigration restriction with, oh, an alt-right friendly or alt-right person, Ann Coulter.
		That's interesting.
		And there you see, therein lies the central gambit here, which is this smear job of alt-right.
		Well, anyone who it's convenient for me to call a bad person, well, they're alt-right.
		You know, Ann Coulter was alt-right in 2016, when Ann Coulter was the enemy of Ben Shapiro.
		Well, now that I'm the enemy of Ben Shapiro, well, Ann Coulter's cool, and I'm alt-right, right?
		And same with Charlie Kirk.
		Since the founding SAS conference, Ann Coulter was banned.
		She was not allowed to go.
		But this year, they invited Ann Coulter, and they scrambled and put together a last-minute panel with her there.
		I wonder why that was.
		Well, it's because suddenly, Ann Coulter, who was an alt-right immigration restrictionist, beyond the pale, well now we need her!
		Now Turning Point needs her to shore up their legitimacy as actual immigration restrictionists, or America First patriots on immigration.
		All right is not actually a concrete term as they say it is.
		It's me that's alt-right.
unidentified		Oh.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So it really amounts to, you know, alt-right is not actually a concrete term, as they say it is.
		We're not the ones masquerading.
		This is just a label that is completely vacuous and loosely applied to whoever is threatening the open borders globalist gambit at any given time.
		Ann Coulter is not threatening anymore.
		So she's welcomed into the fold, and she can be a part of it, and she's no longer alt-right.
		But I am a threat.
		And I am a legitimate immigration restrictionist, so now I'm alt-right.
		Ann Coulter's okay, and Ben Shapiro's okay when he talks about immigration restriction with her, but these guys are something else, they're alt-right.
		Okay, well which is it?
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Malkin and I were friends for 20 years.
		I mean, like, it's not as though I've been friendly to the open borders position.
		But the attempt to conflate the two, it's a smart move by the alt, right?
		I mean, for them to sort of hide under the MAGA hat and say, well, we're the true MAGAites or we're the true immigration restrictionists.
		And if you really immigration – Let me pull up the tweet.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Where's the tweet of me where I post all my pictures?
unidentified		years.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
		Oh, it's a very smart move.
		They put themselves in a MAGA hat.
		Here it is, I think.
		Yeah, here's the tweet.
		Well, let's rewind the tape while I look at these pictures.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		But the attempt to conflate the two, it's a smart move by the alt-right, I mean, for them to sort of hide under the MAGA hat and say, well, we're the true MAGA-ite, or we're the true immigration restrictionists, and if you're really immigration restrictionists, then you should come along with us.
		But you're also gonna have to swallow this big pill about, you know, like, how racism is an effective tactic and a morally useful thing.
		Well, no, we're gonna have to go no on that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What did he say?
		Well, it's actually a really smart move for them to hide under a MAGA hat and pretend that they're the real MAGA-ites.
		Well, let's see.
		Here's a picture of me on election night.
		This is November 8, 2016.
		This is at an election night viewing party at Boston University in the basement of the Student Union.
		Cardboard cutout of Donald Trump.
		There's a Trump flag, Trump shirt, MAGA hat.
		This is me at the first general election debate viewing party, also on Boston University.
		This picture was taken in Warren Towers.
		MAGA hat, Trump shirt, Trump flag.
		This was the first general election debate in, I think that was September 2016.
		This is me campaigning for Donald Trump.
		This is me campaigning, going door-to-door in Manchester, New Hampshire in October 2016 with an official Trump election shirt, Trump hat.
		This is a big Mercedes van that I was driving around Manchester with my group of door knockers, dropping them off at different places.
		And this is my ballot in 2016, which I think it's technically illegal for me to show, but this is me voting for Donald Trump in 2016.
		By the way, Ben Shapiro is a never-Trumper who didn't vote for Donald Trump.
		And this is time and time again, all these people saying me and my followers are hijacking Trump's slogans.
		Yeah, well here.
		Ben Shapiro explains why he'll never vote for Trump.
		Here's Dan Crenshaw.
		Where is he?
		Trump's insane rhetoric is hateful.
		But worse, it takes away from an important conversation about the reform of Islam.
		On the one hand, you have idiots like Trump, and on the other hand, you have equally ignorant liberals.
		Dan Crenshaw.
		This is Dan Crenshaw in 2015.
		Charlie Kirk.
		The fact Iowa could choose someone who openly brags about his affairs and has multiple divorces is astonishing.
		Anyone down for a Cruz Rubio ticket to save America?
		April 16.
		April 16th!
		This resort's the end of the primary!
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Restrictionist, and if you're really immigration restrictionist, then you should come along with us, but you're also gonna have to swallow this big pill about, you know, like how racism is an effective tactic and a morally useful thing.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking idiot, dude.
		Oh, you know, we're the real immigration restrictionists because we are, we're the real Trump supporters because we are, but you have to swallow that racism is Good tactic?
		What the fuck are you saying?
		What are you even saying, idiot?
		What a bonehead.
		What an absolute bozo.
		Oh, well, they're gonna hide under the MAGA hat and masquerade as paleocons, and they're gonna say, we're against immigration.
		But we're racist, too!
		Give me a break.
		This guy's an idiot.
		This guy's a straight-up idiot.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, we're gonna have to go no on that.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		And obviously separating students that have well-intentioned questions and all that, but the really hateful individuals that were doing this.
		It's very Alinsky-y.
		If you look at it.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		And I think they openly acknowledge that, right?
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like use the symbology of the movement against the movement itself.
		And you made the point that there's nothing conservative about trying to make this artificial group identity on skin color.
		In fact, it's collectivist in just a different form.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		And these are not – in fact, one of the events that I did, one of the clips that went viral, I said, does anyone here support Identify Europa?
		And some lunatic said, oh yeah, I do, it's great, you know?
		And basically, after two questions, it became remarkably clear, he wants a white ethnostate.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Look, tribalism is unfortunately a natural human tendency, but what's great about founding ideology, and I think the ideology of Western civilization, is that it did cross those lines.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So, when it comes to the... there was literally, out of all the Gruyper summits, there was one guy who said he was supporting Identity Europa.
		Which, by the way, Identity Europa doesn't exist anymore.
		It hasn't existed for a year.
		So, we have all these questions about immigration, Israel, blah blah blah.
		Which they won't even say Israel, by the way.
		That's what's funny.
		They're like, oh, well, you can have questions about social conservatism.
		You can have questions about immigration.
		We're not afraid of talking about that.
		What's weird, because so far, talking about the Groyper Wars for seven minutes, you've only mentioned really like one thing, which is immigration, and a little bit about social conservatism.
		But they have never even mentioned the questions about foreign aid, foreign wars for Israel, anything like that.
		We're not afraid to talk about it.
		But in any case, out of all the questions we asked, there was like one guy who said he supported Identity Europa and a white ethnostate, and that guy was proven to be a literal plant.
		That was in North Carolina, we all remember.
		And the day after the North Carolina event, there was a guy who literally came out and said, oh take that Nick Fuentes, we blew up your thing, we're the Wignats.
		Wignats are the new, they're alt-right.
		I mean, they're literally, you know, we called the people that are in the alt-right wignats.
		Richard Spencer, TRS, all those characters.
		So literal, like, plants came forward the next day and said, ah, we took over that North Carolina event.
		So the one guy, but in any case, he also says identify Europa, and you want to know why he says that?
		He says identify Europa because if you google identity Europa, this is the first thing that comes up.
		If you look up identity Europa or identify Europa, this will come up.
		So let's rewind that just a bit because I think it's very important to point this out.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Open some lunatic about trying to make this artificial group identity on skin color.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		In fact, it's collectivist in just a different form.
unidentified		Yes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, uh, make a group identity by skin color.
		Okay.
		Black leadership summit, Hispanic leadership summit.
		Need I go on?
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		These are not.
		In fact, it was one of the events that I did.
		One of the clips that went viral, I said, is anyone here, you know, support identify your rope.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Identify Europa.
		Does anyone support Identify Europa?
		Why did he say that?
		The group is called Identity Europa.
		This is not the first time he said it.
		Why did he say Identify Europa?
		Because if you look up Identity Europa, the first thing that comes up is an actual website called Identify Europa.
		And what is that?
		Identify Europa is a network of anti-fascists.
		From coast to coast, they have collaborated in exposing members of the white supremacist gang Identity Europa, revealing an organization whose goal to include prioritizing monetary benefits based on membership.
		But the reason that he said Identify Europa is because literally he googled it.
		He said, oh, Identify Europa.
		This anti-fuckhound.
		Oh, it's called Identify Europa.
		Yeah, let's go with that.
		Which just speaks to how ignorant he is.
		It just speaks to how completely, like, what a bonehead idiot this guy is.
		He's gonna tell... Oh, there are... No, no, no.
		No, these guys are not legitimate.
		They're part of Identify Europa.
		Oh, really?
		What's that?
		I don't know.
		I literally just googled it.
unidentified		I don't know.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I just googled it and the first thing that came up was this.
		That's why I keep saying identify Europa.
		It's not a mistake.
		He's not like misspeaking there.
		He's not, that's not a gaffe.
		He keeps saying identify Europa because he's not trying to say identity Europa.
		He's trying to say identify Europa because he doesn't know what it is.
		Because he literally googled it one time and this came up and it was like, oh, identify Europa.
		Okay, there it is.
		Identify Europa.
		Let's go with that.
		These guys aren't conservatives.
		They're Identify Europa.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		An entity on skin color.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		In fact, it's collectivist in just a different form.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		And these are not... In fact, one of the events that I did, one of the clips that went viral, I said, does anyone here, you know, support Identify Europa?
		And some lunatic said, oh yeah, I do.
		It's great, you know?
		And basically, after two questions, it became Remarkably clear, he wants a white ethnostate.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Look, tribalism is unfortunately a natural... Which, by the way, none of us want a white ethnostate, and none of us have ever said that we want a white ethnostate, so... And that's, again, what they're doing is they'll take what one person says, you know, and make that symptomatic of what everybody says.
		Or indicative of what everybody says or believes.
		Well, one guy in North Carolina said he supports white ethnostate, even though nobody else did in the entire course of the thing, and none of the leaders did who were trying to defame.
		But that's the shady, underhanded, dishonest tax.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		What's great about accounting ideology, and I think the ideology of Western civilization, is that it did cross those lines, and it suggested that tribalism is not the answer to the ills that plague humanity.
		In fact, universal values that are applied through reason, and through basic Judeo-Christian morality, Those are applicable anywhere.
		Those are applicable to anybody who wants to take part in them.
		That doesn't mean everybody wouldn't want to take part in them.
		It doesn't mean that everybody's going to leave their tribalism behind.
		And we have to fight against tribalism on all sides.
		But when you see the alt-right basically making common cause with the identity politics left, if you are a conservative, you have to say to yourself, well, something here is wrong.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		And we have to make it clear, these are, it's like 20 people.
		This is not a mass movement.
		These, the fringe on the fringe of these people, and they make it seem as if, the media wants to make it as seem as if they're much bigger and much more popular.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Well, the media loves this stuff.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		And that's what you said at Stanford.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I love, well, this is like the fringe of the fringe.
		It's 20 people.
		Oh, really?
		Well, let me pull up my Twitter analytics.
		20 people.
unidentified		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		20 people, 20 people.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		20 people, 20 people.
unidentified		America first!
unidentified		That's Houston.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Bye.
		Let's look at, uh... Do we have UCLA?
		Do we have a clip here?
unidentified		It'll probably play an ad, which is annoying.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay, whatever.
		I might as well pull up my Twitter analytics.
		Let me see if I can pull it up for that time period.
unidentified		Let me see if I can pull it up for that time period.
		and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilford, which is a lie.
		It doesn't happen that way.
		We're willing to listen.
		Q&A!
		We're willing to listen.
		Q&A!
		See what I mean?
		And that is the problem.
		And the reason oftentimes it doesn't make sense to do the Q&A is not because we're not willing to talk about the questions, because we do.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		60 million impressions, by the way.
unidentified		You have a white jacket with nonsense looking to go for some sort of sound, but you have people spreading nonsense, spreading hate to try to take over that room.
unidentified		And that's the real issue of the room.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So we can have these people booed off the stage at UCLA.
		We can have them booed off the campus at Houston.
		We had people in Colorado, in Iowa, in New Hampshire, in Florida, in North Carolina.
		We had them in Texas, in Arizona.
		We had them in Tennessee.
		See?
unidentified		Those are like 20 people, this is the fringe of the fringe!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, we have people across the country show up in dozens.
		60 million impressions in 64 days.
		You know, he got booed off of University of Houston.
		It's a fringe of the fringe!
		I think I gained like 30,000 followers in the course of the Groyper War.
		I have 75,000 subs on YouTube.
		It's the fringe of the fringe!
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		The far left and the media need the alt-right.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Right, because their goal is to cast you as alt-right.
		That's correct.
		I mean they've cast me as alt-right a million times.
		I've had to force three, four separate mainstream publications.
		Guardian or something.
		The Economist.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		The Economist.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		The Economist called me the alt-right sage without the rage, and I wrote to them and I was like, guys, I don't think you know what alt-right means.
		And they had to retract it.
		And then the Boston Globe did the same thing.
		They wrote a column calling me alt-right.
		They had to retract that, too.
		I mean, the fact is the media used the term alt-right as a catch-all for people on the right that we don't like.
		Ha!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Wow!
		They used the alt-right as a catch-all for people they don't like?
		What?
		Wow!
		That's amazing!
		So, Breitbart, Ann Coulter, Milo Trump, Pat Buchanan, Ron Pauls, Mike Cernovich, Alan Bakari, Alex Jones, Jim Goh, Jerry Taylor, Spencer Brimelow, Vox, Joseph Soberon, VDare.
		Could you imagine?
		Could you imagine?
		Could you imagine using the term alt-right as a catch-all for people you don't like?
unidentified		Well, case closed, yeah!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		right wants what the alt-right desperately wants is to magnify their numbers get by lumping in people like you've been attacked by the alt-right people like me who've been attacked by the alt-right people who forcibly oppose the alt-right who've stood up and said the alt-right is garbage that's that's amazing so now what what the gambit is we are trying now to brand charlie kirk as alt-right Yes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Join us, Charlie Kirk!
		We want the media to think that Charlie Kirk is alt-right.
		So that they'll think that we have huge numbers.
		We entered into a direct conflict with Charlie Kirk.
unidentified		As America First.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So let's see.
		We, the alt-right, we won't call ourselves that because we're hiding.
		We won't call ourselves that because we're masquerading.
		But we are proud of that label and we are trying to get Charlie Kirk to be labeled as alt-right so that people think we're all the alt-right so that everyone, excuse me, thinks that we have huge numbers and then they'll think that there's more of us than there are.
		And then, I don't know, and then that's when something's really gonna happen.
		How does that make any sense?
		And you realize that these people are just making things up.
		They're literally just making it up as they go along.
		Well, although they're not real Trump supporters.
		Well, it's okay to talk about immigration restriction, but not like that.
		They're saying they want immigration restriction, but they say let's have immigration restriction, but racism too.
		And actually the alt-right and the left are working together, yeah?
		And the alt-right and the media are working together, yeah?
		And they want the media to think you're alt-right.
		Which is why they're attacking you all the time.
		They're just making it up as they go along on this podcast and beyond.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		What the alt-right would like is for there to be mass confusion about what the term actually means so that they can make it seem as though it's more than five guys.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, that's what it is.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys have sizable student loan debt?
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Were you sold a bunch of lies from the cartel of the college?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I just like... and people eat this shit up because they don't hear the other side.
		They will not engage with people like me because they're little...
		House of Cards will collapse.
		If they engage with anybody in good faith, anybody at all from our side, the whole thing would come down.
		It's really that simple.
		So they ignore we don't exist, or they ignore us, they pretend we don't exist.
		Smear, they're evil, they're bad, they've got all these nefarious four-dimensional chess strategies.
		They want to obfuscate the terms so people think more people are in it.
		We don't even, it doesn't make any sense.
		If we wanted people to think that everyone was the alt-right, wouldn't we call ourselves the alt-right?
		Wouldn't we say that we're alt-right?
		Wouldn't that make sense?
unidentified		You know?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		They want everyone to think they're alt-right, which is why they don't call themselves that, and they say they're not, and they list substantive disagreements.
		They want people to think that we're all alt-right, which is why we attack them.
		You know, he says at the beginning, well I've been fighting the alt-right forever, they hate me.
		They want people to think I'm alt-right too!
		Even within this interview it doesn't make sense.
charlie kirk ▲ ● ▼		Well, you guys need to find out about Credible.
		Credible.com, they do a great job.
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		Credible customers have given awesome reviews.
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		It only takes a couple minutes to check rates, and It doesn't impact your credit.
		That's right.
		Does not impact your credit.
		I can't stand when they do that.
		And they will never sell your data.
		Huge on privacy.
		So here's what you do.
		Credible.com slash Charlie.
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		Dollar gift card.
		That's it.
		Fill in a couple dollar gift cards.
		That's a dollar gift card.
		I'm a little worried about the direction of some of these conversations.
		Within the conservative circles, where it seems as if, and this is a little bit different than the alt-right, but more of kind of some of the proposals of the new right, which is we have to use the instruments of government power to correct some of the problems that the left has done in our culture and society.
		You did a very good podcast about this whole conversation about restricting pornography.
ben shapiro ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		So, I mean, this is a different conversation.
		We should make a hard break here.
		This is very different.
		Just so everybody understands, the conversation we're about to have is very different from the conversation we just had.
		Common good conservatives, as I think they would like to call themselves.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I think that's where it ends, the part about the Groepers.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's everybody saying yes?
unidentified		Why is everyone saying yes?
unidentified		I don't know why they're saying yes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But, anyway.
		So that ten minutes was of that.
		That eleven minutes was about us.
		And, you know, look.
		It's not over.
		It's not over.
		We won the Groeper Wars.
		Everybody knows that.
		That's why Charlie Kirk backtracked on his statements.
		That's why I'm a household name now, relatively, in a lot of conservative circles.
		And they know that.
		And they're coping.
		And they're hoping that with some of these tactics, the smear pieces, the, you know, human rights reports, You know, if they just lie about it on their podcast, we're going to go away.
		We're not going to go away.
		We're here forever.
		I'm 21 years old.
		So they can smear like Peter Brimelow and Jared Taylor and all these guys and, you know, no shade at them.
		And I'm not trying to attack them, but these are older guys.
		And I don't, I don't think they're as savvy with the internet and, you know, they're not as visible.
		I love those guys.
		I think they're amazing.
		They're patriots and everything, but I think their phase of the paleocon versus neocon war ended like 15 years ago, maybe even longer.
		And the difference is now, we've got a mass youth following.
		It's me, and it's the zoomers, and they're terrified of that, because I'm not going anywhere, and my young followers aren't going to go anywhere.
		We're young, and we're online, and we're on the campus.
		So they're just trying to get ahead of this as best as they can, you know, sweep it under the rug, but it's not going to work.
		And this will continue.
		This will continue in the spring semester.
		I'm going on tour.
unidentified		I'll pull it up on my Twitter actually.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Remember, I'm going on tour this spring.
		We're already setting up a number of dates.
		We're going to have a calendar pretty soon of where I will be appearing on college campuses.
		If you want me to come to your college campus, check this out.
		It's my pinned tweet on my Twitter profile.
		You just fill out this form.
		And all you do is fill out the questions.
		What school are you at?
		What city?
		Are you part of a student group?
		Are you a leader of that group?
		What is a student group?
		What date would you like?
		Very simple, straightforward, you know, it's like a handful of questions.
		And like I said, we've already got like a dozen events in the works.
		We're, I got a team together that's handling this and we're putting dates on the calendar and making it happen and everything.
		So, we, I will be out there, we will carry on in other ways the Groyper War, this America First Students thing is taking off and might be spreading to other campuses.
		So, needless to say, the Groyper War has really only just begun.
		The Conservative War, the offensive against Conservative Inc.
		has really only just begun.
		It's only just started.
		And I'm excited for that.
		But that's really all the content I had in mind to review for now.
		I'm probably going to log off, have some dinner, and then I'll be back at 7 o'clock only on DLive.
		And I'll be at 7 o'clock tonight to watch the results come in from the New Hampshire primary.
		Should be exciting and fun.
		And low-key.
		I feel like DLive is more low-key than YouTube for some reason.
		I always feel guilty going on YouTube and, like, doing a chill stream, but on DLive it's just, like, a different energy.
		So I'll be back tonight at 7 o'clock only on DLive for America First, and we'll be watching the New Hampshire Primary results.
		Remember, I won't be on YouTube.
		If you usually watch me on YouTube, I won't be there.
		Because I got my second community guideline strike during the show yesterday.
		So that means that at the bare minimum, I won't be streaming on YouTube for two weeks.
		And I think I'm headed towards a full-out ban within that time period.
		So I think YouTube's probably over.
		But who knows?
		But at least for now, I'll be on DLive tonight.
		So that's at 7 o'clock, but I'm probably going to sign out here.
		I'll read some of these Ninjaginis before I go, though.
		I'll read some of the Ninjaginis and Diamonds.
		I'm not going to open the chest.
		I'm opening the chest.
		If there's more lemons tonight, I'll open the chest tonight.
		We live in the Matrix as what army?
		What army?
unidentified		Look around you, Charlie!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You planted grass?
		GRASS!
		Let me see if I can pull up that clip.
		Do I have it?
unidentified		I remember it was hard for me to find.
		Grass?!
		the secret formula or I'll destroy the Krusty Krab.
		Ah, you and what army, Bug?
		What army?
		What army?
		Look around you, Krabs.
		You planted grass?
		Grass?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's your five guys.
		That's your five guys that are You can get a little glimpse into my viewing history.
		We got a Sopranos cliff.
		We got the Chog Zone.
		Jon Stewart on Crossfire.
		I don't watch anything Seinfeld.
unidentified		I don't know why that's there.
		Anyway.
		That'll be us.
		This'll be us.
		What army?
		You planted grass?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be Conservative Inc.
		This is Conservative Inc.
		2020.
		If you want a picture of the conservative movement in the next year, picture Plankton's army surrounding the Krusty Krab.
		This is what we have to look forward to.
		20,000 Groifers, somebody says, yeah.
		Okay, well I'll read some of these Nijiginis.
		We've got Zan Head who says, Identify Europa equals Antifa equals the real fascists.
		Obfuscate by confusing the boomers, yeah.
		UIE says, Hello White Nationalist Inc.
		I'm applying for the marketing position.
		Look, I got this Groiber idea.
		I got this Toad idea.
unidentified		Yeah, that's funny.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, get in on the ground floor of Alt-Right Inc.
		where we don't call ourselves that and we're marketing as a cartoon Toad.
		Yeah, okay.
		Well, those are our diamonds.
		So, like I said, I'll be back.
		I know this was kind of a shorter stream, like an hour and 45 minutes, but I'll be back at 7.
		I gotta make dinner.
		Well, I don't gotta make dinner.
		I gotta heat up dinner in the microwave.
		Or in the oven.
		Yeah, she told me, she told me 345 on the oven, or 350 on the oven for 45 minutes.
		It's the raviolis.
		Raviolis.
		Gotta put them in the oven.
		So, I gotta make that happen.
		And I'll eat dinner, and then I'll be back at seven.
		It's a New Hampshire stuff, so it's going to be fun, exciting, cool to watch, chill.
		You know, I'll be watching the New York Times.
		We'll talk about some other stuff.
		But that's going to do it for this stream.
		Thanks for watching.
		Thanks.
		Lots of lemons on the stream, so thanks a lot for that.
		And remember, Groyper Wars continues.
		They have fired the initial shot, and we'll let them get some punches in, and then it'll be our turn.
		It'll be like that scene in V for Vendetta.
		My turn, you know?
		Then everybody's gonna get, uh, you know, knives thrown in their faces, rhetorically speaking.
		So, that's our stream.
		Thanks for watching.
		Hope you enjoyed.
		Thanks for the lemon.
		I will see you at 7!
		seven.
		See you later.
unidentified		But as soon as people start playing games, I stop.
		Thank you.
		I stop playing games.
		And at any moment, I can hit that yay button.
		Just no man, but just no girl.
		I'm gonna need your day, boys.
		I'm gonna call it.
		I said, change with girls and your brother.
		But my mama said, trust no hoes.
		You so brother.
		I'm acting, one, two.
		Stop the track.
		I'm gonna go first.
		And shit.
		See, Ricky said, I'm a little bottle.
		Don't want to pull you.
		But they want to pull you.
		You don't want to pull you.
		This is my team to call the sack.
		You're gonna have your back with the process.
		I just endorse them, alright?
		Not my words, not my rules.
		I just enjoy this, all right?
		I just enjoy this, all right? all right?
		It's warming up.
		Everybody dare to vote.
		We'll be right back.
		We'll be right back.
		We'll be right back.
		May you one day see the light.
		Well, hey, thanks.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Love you, too.

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