Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak dissect the Cole Thomas Allen assassination attempt linked to the "Wide Awakes," debating SSRI antidepressants as modern MKUltra while analyzing Alex Jones's InfoWars shutdown and $36M pill sales. They scrutinize Tucker Carlson's neocon treachery claims, Scott Besson's "Operation Economic Fury" seizing $450M in crypto, and the legal controversy over Trump's Iran military operation violating the War Powers Resolution. The episode concludes by contrasting SAG-AFTRA's AI protections with Hollywood's sequel reliance, reviewing Jeffrey Epstein's sealed suicide note, and promoting NoagendaMeetups as stability hubs against political chaos. [Automatically generated summary]
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Media Hushing Up Allen Cole00:15:08
Chop off your bits.
Ooh.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, May 3rd, 2026.
This is your award winning Keep On Nation Media Assassination, episode 1865.
This is No Agenda.
Dropping middle names and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Refinery Row, where we're all saying Spencer Pratt for mayor, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, this guy just came out of nowhere, didn't he?
The Spencer Pratt cat.
Well, I'll tell you, he is the social media genius.
Oh, yeah, his videos are fantastic.
I think he's.
Oh, videos plus a bunch of shills?
Shills?
Yeah.
What kind of shills?
All these different women coming on.
It looks like they're going to talk about one thing, then they talk about Spencer Pratt.
And then there's all these anti the other people videos done anonymously by different outfits.
It's a phenomenon.
I'm not quite sure.
You gave me a lot of code there, but so women come on different shows.
Do you have, if you go through like Twitter or X, you just see this, you know, some woman standing there looks like she's going to get bitch and moan about something.
And so she starts complaining that she goes into a big rant about Spencer Pratt being the only solution.
So it's kind of like a Baba Booey?
Well, it's a little more advanced than that.
Well, of course, anything is more advanced than the Baba Booey gag.
But oh, interesting.
So, this guy's got legs.
When are the elections for governor?
Is that the same November, November?
No, it's for mayor of LA.
Oh, mayor.
Oh, and when is that?
When is the election for that?
November.
Oh, we just had our mayoral election here on Saturday, which is kind of odd.
Our guy in Hayes won.
It wasn't for mayor, it was for the school district.
I misspoke.
But he won.
Alex Zavala.
Good.
A guy here in Fredericksburg won.
Randy Briley.
Things are changing.
Texas is moving towards the left, they say.
I think not.
I think not.
So I noticed something this past week, which has never happened in the 18 years we've done this show.
And it's borderline second half of show topic, but maybe not.
When you have a mass shooter, a killer, an assassin, a criminal, We're always looking out for a couple of clues.
Number 33 is a big one.
We're always looking out for the FBI to be in touch with this person previously.
Yes, exactly.
Three names.
The three names.
Yes, this is usually number one.
The three names.
And here's what happened this week in the M5M: Cole Thomas Allen.
Thomas Allen, Paul Allen.
Since when has that ever happened?
I don't recall it ever happening.
So that is strange.
And I think it's probably mainly media trying to hush him up a little.
Gotta be quiet.
We can't give this guy three names.
That makes him sound super, super bad.
And there were so many strange things that went down regarding this.
You know, everything is upside down with this guy.
Let's get a little refresher on the background of Cole Talk.
Thomas Allen.
The suspect, 31 year old Cole Allen, is a teacher from Torrance, California, south of Los Angeles.
He reportedly wrote a manifesto to his family and he's been interviewed by LATV.
Christine Frizow reports.
My impression is he was a lone wolf, a whack job.
These are crazy people.
President Donald Trump, seemingly unshaken, following a gunman in his vicinity for the third time in less than two years.
This suspect, seen in surveillance video running through a security check.
And within moments being captured by law enforcement is 31 year old Cole Thomas Allen from Torrance, California.
He reportedly had a 1,000 word manifesto he sent to his family, now published in the New York Post, calling himself a friendly federal assassin, describing his targets as administration officials, not including FBI Director Kash Patel, adding, I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.
He also mocked the insane lack of security at the hotel, writing, I walk in with multiple weapons, and not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat.
We have preliminary work into some of his electronic devices and talking to some of the individuals who knew him.
It does appear that he did, in fact, have set out to target folks that work in the administration, likely including the president.
Other revelations so far that the suspect was part of a group called the Wide Awakes and attended a No Kings protest in California, where he also was working at an educational counseling and test prep company.
The wheelchair breaks.
Back in 2017, a local ABC station interviewed him about an emergency wheelchair break he'd invented.
So, this is still here.
He's still Cole Allen Thomas.
And this, you know, the whole thing about this guy fits, it works perfectly in our cesspool of cynicism, which is what we are surrounded with everywhere social media, podcasts, our very own troll room.
And so, here's News Nation.
News Nation.
Who now lead the charge by dropping the middle name?
But they did dive into this Wide Awakes, which almost nobody did.
Have you ever heard of the Wide Awakes?
No.
It's a historical group.
But as the administration is working on reviewing how to best protect our president, the FBI is working on finding out exactly who Cole Allen is.
What News Nation?
Did you forget his middle name?
Led him to attempt this.
They didn't even forget his last name.
Investigators say Allen professed to be part of a loosely organized progressive group known as the Wide Awakes, which has roots dating back to when Abraham Lincoln was elected president.
Investigative correspondent Rich McHugh joins us live.
So, Rich, this is a grade school teacher with no criminal record.
That's right, Nicole.
You know, we're learning more and more about Cole Allen as the days, you know, pass here and the group that he was apparently aligned with that his sister told authorities that.
He was a member of the Wide Awakes.
Here's what we know about this group and his affiliation with them at this time.
So, the Wide Awakes appear to be part of a group called the Sunrise Movement.
It's a political movement or organization that says it wants to end billionaire rule and stop the climate crisis, that it wants Donald Trump out of power.
One of their activist campaigns is Ice Out for Good, focusing on ice.
And members of that campaign call themselves Wide Awakes, quite literally, agitators whose sole purpose is to disrupt ice.
In Los Angeles and Minneapolis this past winter, they held no sleep for ice protests outside of ice hotels.
With the goal of getting ICE out of their cities.
They've held these protests in Portland and in DC too.
On their website, they write For almost a year, Donald Trump has been using ICE as an occupying army to intimidate and repress those who would stand against him.
To win climate action, we need to live in a democracy, and that means preventing Donald Trump from establishing his own personal Gestapo.
The origins of this group and this name, as you mentioned, go way back to the pre Civil War era.
At that time, the Wide Awakes, a movement dedicated to abolishing slavery, They protected abolitionist politicians from violence while relentlessly harassing pro slavery politicians, showing up at their homes, banging pots and pans.
This is so strange.
It's like it's upside down.
Pro abolitionists that were, that, that happened during Lincoln's time, and they're part of the sunrise movement.
These kids who were singing and in the hallways.
Something is very strange about all this.
Well, the Sunrise Movement website is way too slick with too many professionally designed logos and signage and symbolism.
I'm looking at it now.
Yeah, signage and symbolism.
Exactly.
So the charge was, while you're looking at that, the charge was led by former President Obama, who's like, This is the craziest thing.
I don't understand this at all.
Barack Obama claims that no one knows the motive of Cole Allen, the man who tried to assassinate President Trump at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, allegedly.
He's also getting backlash for claiming to reject political violence, saying, Although we don't yet have the details about the motives behind the shooting at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, it's incumbent upon us all to reject the idea that violence has any place in our democracy.
It's also a sobering reminder of the courage and sacrifice that U.S. Secret Service.
Agents show every day.
I'm grateful to them and thankful that the agent who was shot is going to be okay.
People immediately called him out for being a hypocrite.
Allen left a detailed manifesto about his motive.
He wrote that he was, quote, no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat his hands with crimes and plan to target Trump and administration officials.
Investigators confirmed the manifesto and his social media were full of anti Trump and anti Christian rants.
He followed accounts like Representative AOC, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, and Senator Elizabeth Warren.
His sister told police he talked about doing something to fix the world and that he had ties to radical groups like the Wide Awakes and the No Kings protests in California.
But Obama still claimed nobody knows the motive, even though the manifesto was already public.
And Attorney General Todd Blanch and D.C. police said the motive was clear anti Trump bias.
Meanwhile, Obama has repeatedly warned that Trump is a threat to democracy.
And an authoritarian.
He has said things like Trump threatens the very foundations of our democracy and compared to some of his actions to those of strongmen, which is basically dictators who rule with personal power instead of following normal democratic rules.
Conservatives point out that Obama and his fellow Democrats spend years pushing the narrative that Trump is dangerous, illegitimate, and a threat to the country.
They continually demonize Trump and attacks that are repeated by the mainstream media and amplified on platforms like Blue Sky.
Blue Sky, yes.
And then.
On the PBS NewsHour.
I checked your clips.
You didn't have them.
I was happy because I had a find as I was paddling in your water.
Listen to what Brooks said.
And I look at the 2028 election with a great sense of foreboding.
And if you look at who thinks violence is justified, it tends to be younger people by a lot.
Most progressives and most conservatives oppose violence, but you get two and a half times as many progressives saying it's justified than not.
But what strikes me about this guy, about the guy who shot in Butler, about the guy who shot Charlie Cook, Kirk, they haven't seemed to have thought about it that much.
Like, it's not like they're radicals who have a big manifesto and an ideology.
It seems almost flippant the way they go into these things, almost like half thought through and jokey.
And I can't quite make sense of what that kind of lighthearted nihilism that drives people to, on a whim almost, do something that is horrific and life changing.
Two and a half times more likely to be the left, David Brooks says.
I've never heard him go off the reservation like that before.
In fact, his compagnon, K Part, was just flustered.
Jonathan, how do you look at it?
Well, excuse me, I'm not going to just let the comment that progressives, more than folks on the far right, think that violence is justified.
It is something that the American people feel they're a little more comfortable with it than they were, say, five or 10 years ago.
You and I were in that room.
We walked through the magnetometers together.
We stood in that spot.
The thing now, a week out, that I've been thinking about, and I keep coming back to it, is that when I heard the five bangs, I remember hearing five very loud bangs.
Bang, bang, bang.
My immediate action was so instinctive drop to the floor under the table and be quiet.
Like a little girl.
I've never been in a situation like that.
As an American and certainly as a journalist, having to cover all of these things and to listen to the recordings and the films, you sort of learn through osmosis what to do.
And to me, the bigger issue here is gun violence.
Why was I not surprised that this had happened?
And I've been to that dinner at least a dozen times since 2000.
Because I'm important.
Of, you know, people feeling that political violence is the way to go and that we are in a highly charged atmosphere.
But what's been sort of a specter over all of us for even longer is the scourge of gun violence.
Yeah, a good try.
Radicalization and Political Violence Cycle00:02:16
No one is picking up on that.
No one is going with gun violence at this time.
Even MSNOW, formerly known as MSNBC, MSNOW, even they are seeing what's really happening.
This is a person who attended one of the most prestigious STEM universities in the country, the California Institute of Technology, Caltech, got an engineering undergrad degree, got a master's in computer science, and was working, as Mika said early on, he was working as a part-time teacher, but he described himself as a game developer.
You can find video online of him touting a wheelchair invention that allowed wheelchairs to be more stable.
This was an accomplished, articulate person.
Person with a loving family, apparently, who went down a path of radicalization.
And the reason we know that is he's written a thousand word document where he describes exactly why he did this.
And he describes President Trump as a pedophile and a rapist.
He doesn't explicitly say he was targeting Donald Trump, but he says he was targeting Trump administration officials.
He apologizes to his family in this post.
There's some evidence that he attended or was associated with a No Kings protest.
So it really fits the pattern of what we've seen with.
A Luigi Mangione accused of killing the United Healthcare CEO, or Tyler Robinson accused of killing Charlie Kirk, are the sort of people on the far left fringes who have become radicalized, who are living in a world of unreality, bombarded by conspiracy theories, who decide that they have to take violent action.
And it's contributing to a climate of political violence in this country that we have not seen since the 1960s.
So more questions will be asked, and the FBI is pouring over.
This man's writings and his social media.
They served a search warrant on it.
They were at his house in Torrance, California yesterday.
So, a lot more investigation still being done.
But that thousand word document that's been widely published, and Donald Trump commented on it last night on 60 Minutes, that says a lot about and explains a lot about what appear to be the motives here, guys.
So, there's a cycle, I think, at play here.
And we're seeing some, as they say, some of this is like the 60s political violence all over again.
Covert Drugging and Pharma Influence00:05:19
And what are the chances?
That Anna Paulina Luna, which I think should be, she should be on the radio.
She'd do a morning show.
Right now, we've got Anna Paulina Luna.
She's down there with the prize van.
Alan Paulina, what you got?
She has hearings coming up on May 13th, which we've been talking about for pretty much 18 years on this show.
From Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, I think our next task force hearing will be on MKUltra.
And from the Daily Mail, which she reposted, declassified CIA files revealed a chilling blueprint to manipulate Americans' minds.
Through covert drugging with vaccines.
So I went down memory lane, looked at a couple of clips that we've played in the past.
And the one thing missing from all of the mainstream M5M analysis for a long time is the modern version of MKUltra, which is not necessarily the CIA.
I don't know about vaccines, but we know what it is.
We know exactly what it is SSRIs.
This is from 2013.
It's a sedative at night.
When even Thom Hartman could talk about it.
Don't even use it as an antidepressant anymore.
And they're not going to tell you that it's an SSRI reuptake inhibitor.
Does that sound familiar?
Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which is the same family of drugs as Paxil and what's the most famous one of all?
Prozac.
You wrote a book talking back to Prozac.
Paxil, Zoloft.
And the thing about it is that it's not selective.
It's just a reuptake inhibitor of serotonin, but it also inhibits the reuptake of some other drugs.
But it's in that class of the drugs.
So it increases the levels of circulating serotonin.
And these drugs, these SSRI drugs, all of them have suicide or homicide associated with them, do they not?
They do.
They do.
Yeah, don't worry about the sounds.
We'll just.
Oh, yeah, you can hear me shuffling around.
It's hard to hear here, I know.
That's quite all right.
Not to worry, Dr. Bregan.
We're talking with Dr. Peter Bregan, a practicing psychiatrist and the author of Medication Madness, among other books.
And he's pointing out that the Navy Yard shooter was on an SSRI drug.
SSRI drugs have been associated with.
Correct me if I'm wrong, most of the mass shootings that we know of in the history of the United States, is that an accurate statement?
So perhaps we're just missing the obvious here that a good portion of our country, certainly people in their 30s, 20s, and 30s, and younger, but it's always now the kids, the kids, kids.
Hey, it's the moms, it's the young dads, it's the young people, it's the young, it's the incels.
Sorry, incels.
They're all on these SSRIs.
And if all day long, all day long, you get messaging from President Barack Obama, from everybody on the blue cry.
I mean, I saw the video of that guy walking around the hotel hallways back and forth.
These people are, in effect, modern MKUltra.
It's not that hard.
Well, this is a new thesis.
I like it.
I mean, it's seen, and really, when you think about it, this stuff has been going on since the 50s with these drugs.
That really brought this home first was a drug called Reserpine, which has been used to treat people who had.
Hypertension.
Now, it also became used as a drug to treat people who are anxious, a drug to treat kids who are hyperactive, a drug to treat people who are depressed, and a drug to treat people who had psychosis.
But the interesting thing was that people being treated with hypertension, of course, had no nervous problems at all.
And they would say, I mean, they're reporters saying when they're in treatment in places like the Mayo Clinic, good clinics, they're reported as saying, you know, the first few doses, I Became very agitated.
I began having thoughts that were very unusual for me, thoughts that included things like homicide.
And it was only when I came off the drug that I realized it must have been the drug that did this.
So that was there very early on in the 1950s.
The reason we know about it, and everybody agrees, resipant does these things.
It makes you depressed, it makes you suicidal, it makes you.
Homicidal.
Everybody agrees about that because this was a drug that was cheap and generic, and no pharmaceutical company had any interest to defend it.
But when exactly the same things begin to happen on the later antipsychotics and the SSRIs we have now, of course, the pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars out of this, and they have every interest to defend the drug and tell people, no, heart drug couldn't cause this.
So, maybe it never really even was the true MK Ultra.
Maybe the algo is the MK Ultra trigger.
Maybe I've been looking at this in the wrong way.
The Algorithm as MK Ultra Trigger00:15:57
Like, oh, it's got to be the CIA doing it.
No, it's all around us all the time.
And Brooks maybe sees it.
K Part, he's probably on him.
No, it's gun violence.
It's a scourge of guns.
No, no.
The guy had knives just in case.
As an aside, so there's something that the mainstream media can't report on because they still have the drug companies as their largest advertisers.
No one's going to do any news reports on it.
And no one, not even the big three, you know, the CBS, NBC, ABC, they're not going to do it.
But this seems to me.
No, they're beholden.
They are completely locked in, locked and loaded.
They're co opted.
Yes.
So it's no wonder that a guy like this.
Just add blue sky.
Oh, they're captured.
Yeah, they are.
I can go on.
It's good.
You got any more?
I like it.
Captured, beholden, uh, captured, yeah, yeah, co opted, co opted.
Yes, co opted, captured.
We need more C's.
So, and but which reminded me, I wanted to mention this to you before we did the show, which was to dig up Kennedy's uh promise.
Oh, his three promise four things he was going to do, stop to.
The corruption of the periodicals, stop TV advertising.
Was it the Force?
I think it was.
Was it called Promise?
It was some sort of promise or something.
RFK Promise.
Maybe that's what it was.
I don't think it was.
It's probably this label.
We'll never find it.
No, we'll find it.
I don't think he's done anything.
All he's done so far is he talks a lot, talks a big game, but he just seems to have just gotten the red dye out of food, and that's about it.
And that wasn't even one of his promises.
He's turned the pyramid upside down.
RFK, was it promises?
Was it, no, it was something else.
It was like a to do list for him.
Yeah, I'm mad now that I, why can't I find this?
RFK Jr.
Well, one of them was advertising, so maybe I can find it that way.
Oh, RFK Dangerous.
Okay, RFK Jr. Junior Dangerous.
Was that it?
Yes, I have them.
Ready?
Go.
Number one.
I'm not intimidated by the agencies.
I know how they work and I know how to change them.
And most of those changes you do not need Congress for.
The president, President Trump could have done it, had the power to do it himself.
And President Biden has the power to do it himself.
And I'll give you an example.
With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct to consumer ads on television.
That's one of the big problems.
That's why one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news.
75% of the revenues for those evening news shows for Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.
And those companies are dictating content on those shows, and they dictate the official narratives.
And they're able then to exercise huge control over Congress.
So Congress is terrified of them.
But with a stroke of the pen, This is not good for the health of our country, which it isn't.
We spend three times more than any other country for pharmaceutical drugs because of all this advertising.
Okay, that was one.
Promise number two.
Another thing that I can do is I can open up all the databases.
Right now, all the databases that you can actually check the efficacy and the safety of vaccines, like the vaccine safety database.
It's the top, it's all the vaccine records and the medical claims for 10 million Americans from the top 10.
HMOs.
Oh, you can look in there, and overnight you can say, Oh, this vaccine's associated with diabetes.
This one's associated with peanut allergies.
This one's associated with ASD, neurological tics, or whatever.
That database, CDC keeps it in a lockbox like Fort Knox and makes sure no scientist is allowed in there.
Well, I'll open up that database on day one.
Day one.
Day one.
I'm still waiting to make my claim about being vaccine injured in Tourette's.
And then the final, I promise.
And, you know, I'll also bring all the medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine, the Lancet, JAMA, into the Justice Department as soon as I appoint an AG.
And I'll say to them, you guys are part of a racketeering syndicate.
You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industries to lie to the American public about the efficacy and safety of these products, and you're causing enormous harm.
And we are going to sue you both civilly for damages and we're going to sue you criminally.
Unless you come up with a plan right now as to how you're going to stop doing that.
So I have a like I have a hundred things that i'm going to do immediately.
Well, um hundred, he said.
And he said I got.
He said a hundred.
Didn't he just say that right there?
He said a hundred hundred things.
So on the on the one on the advertising nice, I mean, he said he's done more than one.
You know they, they did indict that one dude from the Wuhan Lab.
We'll see, you know.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see Faucie's right hand man.
We'll see where that goes.
You got to the 11th.
But on the advertising, the damage is done.
The only thing, if you take away the big pharma advertising, the only thing that might achieve, and that's a big might, is that there would be reports about SSRIs.
I mean, we go back to shanty, shanty, shanty, which they couldn't tell you that, you know, I still believe Anthony Bourdain would be alive today if he hadn't taken shanty.
You know, that stuff makes you crazy or made you crazy or allegedly made you crazy.
Yeah, we had some we had tons of reports people waking up naked on our producers, yeah, waking up naked on their neighbor's lawn.
And I don't know how I got here.
What the heck?
But so, the SSRIs, I think that is, I mean, you even if you stopped advertising, kids have breaks in school these days, you know, 13 12 year olds.
Oh, all right, everybody, 10 15 time for everybody to take your meds.
Teacher, gotta take my meds.
Everyone's had their meds.
That's so entrenched when I was a kid.
Nobody.
Took meds.
No, you took meds.
You were a weenie.
What are you?
What's wrong with you?
What's your meds?
That is the basis of the problem.
But then you just need to add inflammatory language and expose everybody to it.
And it's not just kids.
The people taking these drugs are 30, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s.
Okay, back in the day, we had mom's little helper.
All right.
Which was, what was that mom's?
Was that pros?
It was a tranquilizer.
It's different.
Yes.
Yeah.
SSRIs, admittedly, they don't even really know how they work.
They just work.
Yeah.
So, although I was going to laugh at him, Chuck Todd kind of has the right idea.
He's such a weenie.
Listen to Chuck Todd.
You know, Chuck Todd does podcasts now these days.
I'm not going to any more events where Trump's at him.
I don't feel safe.
Wherever Donald Trump is, chaos follows him.
Chaos follows him, and you are less safe, right?
If you decide to go into his orbit, you have become less safe.
He does not care about your safety.
He's not going to protect you if you go into his orbit because he's always going to protect himself first.
He's more likely to throw you under the bus.
Oh, yeah.
He's more likely to have you be the target of Iranian assassins if you're John Bolton or Mike Pompeo.
Iranian assassins.
And he's going to pull any sort of federal support, right?
You know, I think about when somebody using Donald Trump's words and actions targeted me and a bunch of other members of the press.
Members of the press.
You know who I didn't hear from?
Donald Trump.
Right.
So the guy doesn't care when people commit violence in his name.
He only cares when the violence is committed against him and he does not see that he is a contributor to the atmospherics of the world we're living in right now.
Okay.
So, anyway, all eyes on the cesspool of cynicism that is social media because anyone could fall prey to this.
Anyone.
It's not even a political spectrum anymore.
It's just whatever you've been inundated with, whatever has been injected into you, into your brain.
We weren't built for this.
We weren't built for this type of information, this ingestion.
We can't handle it.
And especially not if we're on drugs that no one really knows how they work, but they might make you homicidal or suicidal.
Okay.
What could possibly go wrong?
There, now I'm being cynical.
Yep, you are.
Let's stick with Kennedy.
Are we done with this thesis?
Yes, I think we are.
The thesis is done.
Yes, the thesis is over.
But we'll follow it closely.
Oh, yes, because there's something up.
I'm going to probably take the side that it does slant you politically.
The SSRI by itself slants you politically?
Yeah, I'm going that way.
Well, by the same reasoning, it may want you to chop off your bits.
Ooh.
So here we have Kennedy.
Yeah, it's interesting.
He did, you know, he's.
You know, again, he's got these promises he's going to do 100 things he's done.
Yeah, maybe five.
Yeah.
But let's, here he is at a hearing and kind of backing off on some of his thinking.
Kenny Jr. hadn't testified on Capitol Hill since September.
That changed this past week.
He's just wrapped up seven hearings with several House and Senate committees.
The topic was supposed to be his agency's budget, but lawmakers asked him questions far beyond that.
Today, Kennedy testified before two Senate committees, finance, And HELP, which stands for Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.
NPR Selena Simmons Duffins was watching and is here to give us the highlights.
Hey, Selena.
Hi, Rob.
Okay, so how did the hearings go today?
You know, there were some intense moments, which wasn't a big surprise because Secretary Kennedy has gotten into shouting matches with lawmakers many times over the last year.
I was listening carefully to how Kennedy talked about vaccines.
Prior to joining the Trump administration, of course, he built his reputation on anti vaccine activism, but then there has been some reporting that the White House is worried about his stance and policy changes on vaccines as a Political liability because his positions are pretty unpopular.
Here is an exchange with Democratic Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado about the measles vaccine, and he references CDC acting director Jay Bhattacharya.
Are you taking the position as your CDC director has taken that the measles vaccine is vital to keeping American children healthy in this country?
Are you taking that position today?
That has not been your position.
That's my position.
We promote the measles vaccine.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Huh, that's his position.
So, is that a new position for Kennedy?
You know, the moment did strike me as a bit of a shift because Kennedy usually says that the measles vaccine is effective for those who decide to take it, framing it as a personal decision, which is not really how public health works.
So, him agreeing with the statement that the measles vaccine is vital to keeping American children healthy in this country was definitely notable.
Although I don't want to overstate it, in most hearings, most of the time, Kennedy still hedged when he was talking about promoting vaccine.
Wait a minute.
I'm misunderstanding how public health works.
Apparently, public health only works if things are mandated.
Yes, if they tell you what to do.
You must do this or else you cannot make a choice.
My body, myself, forget it.
Yeah.
That's what she said.
Yeah.
NPR.
Yeah, I caught that too.
Yeah.
Here's part two, which is kind of interesting.
Okay, so we heard a Democratic senator ask him questions.
How did Republican senators question Kennedy?
They were, by and large, very friendly.
They wanted to talk about, you know, certain policy issues.
There was a lot of praise.
How old is she?
12?
I'm just trying to guess by the voice.
And agreements to work together.
I was really at the edge of my seat when Republican Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana questioned Kennedy because there's been this simmering conflict between the two men.
Cassidy is a physician, he supports vaccines.
He made Kennedy promise not to make big policy changes in exchange for his confirmation vote.
Kennedy has violated those promises.
And I was really expecting Cassidy to challenge Kennedy about those policies.
Instead, he expressed concern.
I am a doctor who has seen people die from vaccine preventable diseases.
And when I see outbreaks numbering in the thousands and people dying once more from vaccine preventable diseases, particularly children, it seems more than tragic.
That was very striking for Cassidy to go relatively easy on Kennedy when it comes to vaccines.
Now, Cassidy is facing a tough primary race in Louisiana, and President Trump has endorsed a rival in that race.
These hearings were ostensibly about the health and human services budget.
What did you learn there?
Yeah, not a lot.
There really weren't a lot of questions about the budget, even though Kennedy has made some big changes.
He's cut 20,000 people from the staff of HHS.
He's requesting a budget cut for next year.
He's proposed eliminating whole agencies.
He was asked a few times about programs that were being zeroed out.
One of them is Title X, which is a federal program that provides free birth control and STI testing to low income people.
And each time he asked, he would say, the national debt is really high.
We have to make cuts somewhere.
But there was Also, strikingly little about his plan to stand up a new agency called the Administration for a Healthy America.
He would need Congress's help to do that.
And there was really no progress on that front last year.
It really doesn't sound like there's going to be a priority for Kennedy for this year either.
Now, did you watch the hearing at all?
Do you have a chance to watch any of the other things that were going on?
I watched a little bit of it, but I didn't get to watch the whole thing.
I mean, is he just a disappointment?
No, I think he's pinned in.
By the bureaucracies, by the underlings.
It's just a night, you know, he doesn't, from the outside, as a lawyer suing them, you know, it looks like one kind of animal.
But when you're the animal, it's like a completely different thing, a structure you're not familiar with.
You've never been ahead of an agency.
It's all new to you, and you have no idea how the mech, there's a mechanism in all these agencies that.
That overwhelms you.
He can't do this, you can't do that.
When he gets outside and just starts talking normally to people in these various podcasts he does, he gets to talk about stuff that he'd love to do, but you can tell he can't do it.
Here's a clip from him on a podcast talking about the chickenpox vaccine.
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When CDC was thinking of recommending this chickenpox vaccine as mandated for children, they did a study, and the scientist they hired to do that study was a scientist called Gary Goldman, a contract scientist.
And he did this study in an isolated place in California called Antelope Valley, a long term study.
And what they find is if you give the chickenpox vaccine, mass vaccinate with chickenpox, it stops chickenpox.
But it causes shingles epidemics later on, which are 20 times as deadly as chickenpox.
So, if you go, so nevertheless, despite those studies, we mandated for American children in this country.
In Europe, they don't.
If you go to the British National Health Service website right now, you can read on that where they say, we do not recommend chickenpox vaccines because it causes shingles epidemics later on.
And that's the problem.
You can't just look at, you know, you can say that this.
Product is going to prevent this particular disease, but you have to look at the long term.
Yeah.
I mean, so, but what is it?
I mean, I don't quite understand.
You look at Trump, and Trump doesn't give a crap about anything.
I'm going to do this.
I don't care if you don't like it.
Yeah, but a lot of stuff is ineffective because the judges shut it down, the system shuts it down.
He's in court a lot.
That's annoying.
The fact that he's got this Iran war thing is.
As far as it got, it is pretty amazing.
Yeah, I agree.
But Trump is, and Trump's also on his second go round.
His first go round, he was completely flustered.
They had him in, you know, on this Russia hoax thing, which Obama was behind.
Had him on the hook.
You know, he was, he got nowhere.
So, and that was four years of frustration, two impeachments.
So, so Kennedy's just, you know, stumbled into this thing.
He thinks he's going to, you know, he discussed earlier how cool it was that he would get this job and thank God for.
His prayers were answered that he could be the head of this thing and kick some ass.
And now he's in there and he's kicking no ass, as far as I can tell.
And I don't think that he's ever going to.
It would take him at least four years to untangle the web of deceit.
So, as we say in Texas, like stepping in a red anthill, fire ants.
You get in there.
That would be bad.
Oh, man.
There was something else that happened around Kennedy's orbit this week.
I can't.
Here in Washington, President Trump making a big move, dropping his controversial nominee for Surgeon General after her confirmation got stalled on the Hill because of opposition from his own party, from Republicans.
Here's the president in the last couple of hours formally signing that withdrawal after months of questions about whether the Senate would actually confirm Dr. Casey Means.
She was his previous pick.
Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle had criticized her for not being supportive of enough vaccines, for promoting the use of psychedelic drugs as therapy, for previously criticizing Americans' use of birth control, saying it had horrifying health risks.
And over her qualifications generally.
So she has now been pulled.
The president and health secretary today are both blaming this guy, Senator Bill Cassidy, a Republican, for, in their view, sabotaging Means' confirmation.
New pick.
Here she is, a radiologist and Fox News contributor.
The president says she is a star physician.
We should note here this switch up.
Senator Means.
Remarks the president's third surgeon general nominee.
Monica Alba is at the White House.
An interesting sort of, I don't know if you want to call it a back down, it feels like an acknowledgement of the reality here that Casey Means was stuck.
In this limbo, and I think it seems like the president just wants to move on.
Fair?
What are you hearing?
I think that's absolutely fair, Howie.
It's been almost a year since he did nominate Casey Means and ultimately realized that she just wasn't going to have the support, wasn't going to be able to get across the finish line for Surgeon General.
So he did withdraw her nomination.
But you just mentioned all of the key players here, and we can unpack that a little bit because Senator Cassidy had been a crucial vote in order to confirm HHS Secretary Kennedy, right?
Given some of the promises that at the time Senator Cassidy had said he had received from him on certain policy.
And then you have Casey Means, who is a very close ally of Secretary Kennedy, and Secretary Kennedy is.
Pretty disappointed and upset today, writing on X that he believes that this was basically a large attempt to get someone who has been, he says, sabotaged by removing this appointment and technically and very directly criticizes Senator Cassidy.
And he says he once again did the dirty work for entrenched interests seeking to stall the Maha movement.
This is what Secretary Kennedy is writing about Senator Cassidy and quote, protect the very status quo that has made America the sickest nation on earth.
Well, I agree with that.
Yeah.
And Cassidy is a bad actor.
Yeah.
He's obviously co opted by the pharma.
Yeah.
And that's what he does.
Yeah.
He's a doctor.
So he's got creds.
And he's got this comment about, oh, yeah, you know, vaccines have saved lives.
Yeah.
In areas where you have like yellow fever and typhus and you have classic vaccines, yeah, they do, they stop it.
Yeah.
But he's also all in on mRNA, which is not a vaccine at all.
No.
And, you know, the rest of it.
It's just like, And the flu shot every year, which, as we know, because we have the clips and we have the documentation.
That gives you the flu.
Gives you the flu.
So, what, you know, but he's all in on that, too.
This is so, the corruption is beyond.
Again, get pharma ads off TV.
So, there was a new side effect of our favorite drug, although, is it a drug?
You know, they should call it a vaccine since you inject it, GLP 1.
I mean, it's a fat vaccine.
If mRNA is a vaccine, then why not?
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It's a fat.
Vaccine.
Yeah, you got a fat vaccine.
So the idea is you take the GLP 1, you inject it.
Some people have resorted to saying, no, no, no, no, I'm microdosing it.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Of course, you're microdosing it.
It's what I said for 15 years.
What?
15, since I was 15 years old, I'm just microdosing the weed.
I'm okay.
Don't worry about me.
So, you know, your butt falls off, your face falls in.
You're doing this to look better by losing weight.
What's that over there?
Your muscle.
Fades away.
And now.
As GLP 1 drugs help millions of Americans lose weight, more and more users report dealing with side effects like hair loss.
And that's creating a billion dollar opportunity for the hair treatment industry.
Oh, it's an opportunity.
It's not just a trend.
I will call it an old category reset with a wide space of opportunity for both life science and beauty brands.
I spoke with one GLP 1 user who experienced hair loss while she was on the weight loss drug.
She said she used to have really thick hair, but it took a full year before she noticed it was falling out in clumps.
In clumps, I tell you.
Clums.
So, you want to look better by losing some weight.
And the result is you lose your libido, you lose your butt, you lose your face, and you lose your hair.
Congratulations, you weigh five pounds.
Come on, people.
Listen to your podcasters, not medical advice.
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And while you're talking about these other comp, the other competition, have you heard the new InfoWars?
Well, I know I have a little bit of inside information, but why don't you lead us down the path and I'll fill it in?
So the Onion, you know, ended up winning the bid and it was explained by some lawyers and it makes some sense.
Well, didn't the Onion want to turn it into a parody site, a parody of what InfoWars is?
Well, here we go.
New InfoWars won.
Hi, everybody.
It's Tim Heidecker here.
I'm broadcasting now live on the internet.
Thank you for joining me.
We have major.
Major announcements to go through here.
Lots going on.
Lot of turmoil the past couple of days on our road to total victory.
We have just won a major battle, folks.
Okay.
Alex and his gang of liars and scoundrels have been cast out into the street.
They have lost InfoWars, uh, InfoWars.com and their, uh, their various platforms.
Now they have been cast out, ladies and gentlemen.
And make no mistake, we, uh, will be the new InfoWars.
Now we got to go through the machinations of the court and we've had some.
Setbacks over the past couple of days, but that is not stopping us.
It is not tempering our resolve.
You know, as a fake Alex Jones, that's actually not bad.
It's not bad, but then here's where I drew the line.
The fake Alex Jones brings in a fake Donald Trump, and this is just to preface it.
I mean, there is a million people that can do Trump.
Why they got this guy, this is the worst of the worst.
Lots going on here.
Do we have anybody on the line?
There's, I want to say, Tim, hello.
This is the President of the United States of America.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, a man that I have recently been feuding with over some of his policy decisions, but a man that I believe is a good man, and he's going to find his way through all this.
But, sir, it is a pleasure to have you on here.
Thank you.
You know, we're going to have our disagreement.
We're going to have our fights, but we love each other.
And when we love, love can conquer all.
Okay.
Now, is this recent?
This is old, isn't it?
This has got to be old.
No, it's just they're using the InfoWars website.
They're doing this now?
Yeah.
Oh, brother.
No, so.
That's what I said.
Especially the Trump thing.
That was the end.
I cut it off.
I'm not going to be listening to the great parodies.
So Alex Jones signed off the InfoWars on Friday at 12 o'clock.
Everybody who's been working on the show is in the studio.
I didn't clip it.
They're like toasting.
This is it, the end of an era.
And they said goodbye to InfoWars.
And so I immediately texted Sir Deuce for, I'm like, dude, what's going on?
And he says, oh no, alexjoneslive.com.
Yes, we needed to get rid of all the baggage of InfoWars the name, the trademark, the domain name.
So now it's just alexjoneslive.com.
It's the same guy, same thing, same deal.
Same deal.
Same, it'll get the same audience.
Same products, same dynamite products.
But I'm sure, which has always been an interesting business model, I thought.
Well, according to the lawyers that were doing an analysis, I don't have any clips from that.
Jones was doing 36 million in pill sales.
And that wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Okay.
He also had a bunch of weird domain names.
He was squatting on probably 5,000 names, including, because I looked at the lists that were going through them.
Yeah.
JoeRoganExposed.com.
Hey, I've got a lot of winners too.
You know, I was going through my domains because I have to pare down because I have just too many.
And some of them, if you get like a different dot somethings, like.fm, you don't want a.fm.
FM, it's 150 bucks a year.
No, it's too much.
It's way too much.
When I registered mtv.com, I emailed the dude in charge of the internet.
I said, hey, can I have mtv.com?
Sure, do.
Do you want anything else?
Yeah, curry.com, elvis.com.
Okay, you got them.
It's good.
No charge, nothing.
Back in the day, it was good times back in the internet days.
That's when art.com sold for a million dollars.
Yeah, I still have diaries.
You know, I have infowars.nl.
You know, your diaries thing seems to me to be unsellable.
I don't get it.
Well, on the last show, I said I'd give you 200,000 if you got me a million.
I'm working on it.
I'm going to have Asian history.
And then we're going to get a Net Jets.
We're going to the Bahamas, baby.
I'm going to blow it all in one go.
You deserve it.
I have Infowars.nl for some odd reason.
I don't know why.
I would get rid of that.
No kidding.
No kidding.
I have a couple of clips.
I'm sorry.
Did you want to do something?
Yeah, I was going to do one more screwball clip.
Yeah, sure.
So Tucker was front page New York Times.
He was interviewed by this reporter who actually turns out to be quite good at doing follow up questions with Tucker.
Oh, like an actual reporter, an interviewer, someone who's doing something?
She's pretty good.
She nailed this guy.
I have two clips from it.
Now, there's one that says Antichrist, and what's the other one?
I don't have it on this list.
Kidnapper, Utah.
Transgeneer.
Kidnapper.
Transgeneer.
No, no.
It says Tucker.
No, it says trans.
Oh, hold on a second.
Oh, no.
I have.
No, I only have.
Oh, Tucker on JD Vance.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
Play that.
JD has been subject to this is well known, but I'll just confirm it.
Well, let's stop it right there.
He starts off about JD Vance being, you know, they're out to get him.
He says it's well known, but I'll confirm it.
Well, he always has facts.
He's confirming what?
He has facts.
He has inside information.
So this woman does not put up with this.
So let's start it over and then note that he's trying to buffalo this poor girl and she's not buying a word of it.
She just sees him as a phony.
Who is this girl?
What is her name?
I don't have her name on.
We got to keep an eye on her.
If she's good, she's good.
JD has been subject to this is well known, but I'll just confirm it nonstop treachery from people on the neoconservative side.
Who are these people around Marco Rubio?
And they have been totally against JD Vance from the very beginning.
Who do you mean specifically?
You know, I don't know is the real answer.
I don't know.
You're accusing people of treachery, so I'm wondering.
Well, I know there's been a lot of treachery for sure, and I know they've been, they were so mad about JD getting that job.
I mean, they, who's they?
Within the White House?
I don't, you know, I don't know the answer to that.
I've never worked there.
So, like, if you don't work there, you can say, you know, you can say what you think you know, but it's hard to really know.
This is me looking skeptical.
Yeah, well, no, it's me being honest.
Like, I don't really know.
You know, okay, that, this is a very good clip.
And the reason why.
Is this how my cousin Lucy loved her dearly when she was married to Christopher Buckley, which is the son of William F. Buckley Jr., etc. etc.?
Oh, they're not married anymore.
I thought they still were.
Oh, no.
Oh, they got divorced a long time ago.
No, she left D.
She had the house in Georgetown, she had the 66 Corvette.
I mean, everything perfect, perfect D.C. family.
And this is how the Beltway talks.
The way Tucker talks.
And he's been there most of his life, as well as Buckley, his brother, the Carlson kids.
And this is how you talk at a dinner party.
And you just say these things and you throw out there, you know, there's a lot of this, and I'll confirm it.
And, you know, there's a lot of these people, and it's a fact.
You know, it's just a fact.
And no one in those circles will question it like this woman is.
And so he's so used to just throwing that out there because someone told him, someone within the Beltway crowd, Who he trusts.
And that's not, you know, that's, I understand that.
You know, someone's connected to someone else.
Oh, I must know what they're talking about.
So he's being called out on his milieu.
His milieu.
Well, she did a good job there.
So in the next clip, he comes up with, she, and she's a reporter for the New York Times.
And so she reads a quote from him that is, you know, written down word for word for word.
And he denies saying it.
And so, in the middle of this next clip, I could have divvied this up a little differently, but right in the middle of the clip, you'll hear a slight different intonation.
And that's Tucker saying the quote from a, you know, from someone.
They bring in a clip on his podcast.
Yeah, they bring in a clip of him and then they go back to Tucker, still denying it.
This is fascinating.
What I was saying, which is you cannot mock other people's gods and put yourself in their place.
Period.
That is a deal killer for me.
That's worse than the war with Iran, in my opinion.
Yeah.
But I ask because, you know, you've been talking on your show about whether Trump is the Antichrist.
I have not said that.
On your show, the day after Easter, you noted he did not put his hand on the Bible during his swearing in ceremony as president.
You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his hand on the Bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside that book.
And then on a recent show, you went further saying, here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods, and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the Antichrist?
I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist?
Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods, and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the Antichrist?
Well, who knows?
I don't know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left my lips because I'm not sure I fully understand what the Antichrist is.
If there's just one, I actually tried to understand it.
I may have said some are asking that.
I'm not weighing in on that because I don't understand it.
Wow.
Interesting.
So, they have the exact quote that she reads, and he denies it and says, Those words never left my lips.
And then they have, of course, the actual him actually saying it.
This is, to me, an indictment of what a phony this guy really must be.
Well, again, what you hear him say is, I don't really know what the Antichrist is.
And then he goes on with that bullcrap.
Yeah, because he says these things with such authority.
And then when he's called on it, he says, Well, I don't really know what the Antichrist is.
And if there's just one or many of them, and Revelation, and.
You know, personally, I find his so called knowledge of scripture extremely annoying because he does that all the time.
Well, the Bible says, I'm a Christian.
I'm a Christian.
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It's how we do it.
But on the other hand, I know that people have accused me of saying things like, I didn't say that.
And then I go back and listen, like, oh crap, I did kind of say that.
So, but yeah, but that's different than someone.
A reporter confronting you with an exact quote.
Yeah.
And she says it was quoted.
I'm quoting you.
And they read the quote.
At that point, would you deny it?
No, I'd be like, what?
I said that?
I must have been high.
I'd do something different than what Tucker did.
It never left my lips.
Now, it's possible that he was possessed and it wasn't his lips that the words left from.
Yeah, it was the demon, that damn demon.
That scratched the enemy.
That's where I'd go with it.
Well, okay.
If he does that, then I'm backing off.
I'd give him a pass for that.
All right.
Over to General Patton on the down low.
I've changed it.
I kept hearing myself say gay General Patton.
I didn't like it that much.
I like General Patton on the down low, our Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant.
And he had this, he was on the Cudlow show, which is pretty insufferable usually.
Oh, Cudlow.
Cudlow always seems to be in the bag, too.
He's in the bag for everything.
He's almost like a Kramer.
He's just a Fox version of Kramer.
But I like this because we got a little bit more of a timeline from Besant.
And I have a couple clips here, three clips.
He was on for half an hour.
It was really good when it comes to the coordination of Operation Epic Fury and Operation Economic Fury.
All right.
Operation Economic Fury is helping to win the war, coming from the Treasury Department.
We welcome back Treasury Secretary, Mr. Scott Besson.
Mr. Secretary, thank you for this.
I know you're a very busy chap, but you know, your economic fury is doing a lot, and it's sort of offshore bank accounts and shipping issues.
And I love this the teapot refiners off the coast of China.
And just tell us a little more about this, because I think this is going to be very powerful stuff and is already having an impact.
Larry, good to be with you.
And to be clear, the president gave the order for max pressure campaign more than a year ago.
He gave it to me and Treasury last March.
It was that pressure that brought the Iranian economy to a standstill in December that led to the protest.
The largest bank in Iran collapsed.
The central bank had to monetize the debt, and that created massive inflation.
Their currency, Is down about 60 or 70 percent versus the US dollar.
So they're in the middle of a currency crisis.
And what we're doing now is, you know, we've been in a long race and we are sprinting for the finish line.
President Trump told me three weeks ago to up the pressure again.
And we have gone to the buyers of Iranian oil and told them that we are going, we are willing to do secondary sanctions.
What you don't hear General Patton on the down low say is, PB Netanyahu called me and said, Hey, I got a plan.
No, this was well thought out.
And they even thought out and I guess wargamed the whole riots.
Like, this will get people to the streets when their money's not worth anything and they can't buy anything.
And that was over a year ago.
Now, the second clip here is a little disappointing because they talk about crypto and it's very unclear whether it's Bitcoin, Ethereum, or stablecoin.
I'm pretty sure it's mainly stablecoin, which also shows you how they will be willing to use stablecoin in the future.
But it all falls under the heading of crypto.
Seizing assets, are you not?
That's right, Larry.
We were able to grab about 350 million crypto assets, and then on top of another 100 that we had recently gotten.
So we're almost at half a billion there.
We are freezing bank accounts everywhere.
More importantly, we are making people less willing to deal with the regime.
And then so it's the economic fury along with the blockade, because now the port at Karg Island is at a virtual standstill in terms of loadings.
We think that the Iranian storage will be full soon.
They'll have to start capping in their wells, which will lead to permanent problems.
Again, the regime won't be able to pay their soldiers.
And equally important, Larry, is they won't be able to fund their proxies, whether it's Hezbollah, Hamas, around the world.
Because one of President Trump's goals in this was to stop Iran's ability to project terrorist power around the world.
Iran was the largest sponsor of state terrorism around the world.
They've been killing Americans for the past 47 years, and that's coming to a stop now.
All right, so okay, crypto.
But this final clip, this I think shows the genius of what Besant was doing.
And remember, this guy worked for Soros.
He knows how the system works, he knows how the money flows, he understands finance.
Finance.
And this is how they decided to break up OPEC.
Two more things, sir.
I know you're a busy chap.
One is I kind of love what you did with the UAE.
You gave them dollar swap lines, they weren't in trouble.
But they're part of the dollar group now, not the yuan or the petro yuan group.
And they're leaving OPEC.
They can produce a couple million barrels more per day from maybe two, two and a half million to as much as five million.
The UAE has chosen to side with the United States in the dollar block.
I think that's most significant.
Whatever you did, whatever you have up your sleeve, Mr. Besson, I think is a pretty clever play.
Look, the UAE and several other Gulf countries and some of our Asian allies have requested swap lines.
And to be clear, Larry, That a swap line is not a bailout, that it is just a swap for US dollars for the local currency at a fixed price.
It is either done from the Fed or Treasury to the central bank.
It is the ironclad credit.
These are some of the most liquid countries in the world, and they just asked for the swap line as another layer of prevention and safety.
So we are happy to.
Support our allies during this time.
And this is when, during a conflict, we stand by them and we show our support both militarily and economically.
And the UAE has made the decision to get out of OPEC, which is why I'm confident that once we get on the other side of this conflict, we will see oil prices and gasoline prices lower than they were when the conflict began.
And if you look at the forward crude market, it's telling you the same thing.
I mean, they've basically chosen free markets over price controls.
And my guess, I don't know, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nigeria, they may follow suit.
The Abraham Accords may go a lot lower.
The dollar system, you've always been a strong dollar guy.
That's why I think this is a great move.
I'm not sure people understand just how important this UAE thing is, but I wanted to highlight it.
I agree with Kudlow.
I think this is a great move.
And you watch, you watch ships going straight to UAE.
They're all in the dollar system.
Stay in the dollars.
You don't want that to be going up.
Yeah.
That's why this is a plot line.
Those clips kind of, since they talk about Iranian oil going to China, have a China clip on this.
I think it's an odd clip because they're warning the Chinese public for something.
I don't know what the public's got to do with this, but play the China using Iran oil clip.
China is instructing its citizens not to comply with new U.S. sanctions on Chinese oil refiners.
After the U.S. said the five oil refiners were buying Iranian oil.
NPR's Emily Fang reports China's Commerce Ministry said, for the sake of national security, the U.S. sanctions would not be enforced.
Before the war, most of Iran's oil ended up at small private refineries in China, ferried there by a so called shadow fleet of ships, which the U.S. has also begun sanctioning.
And that oil trade, the U.S. says, provided Iran's regime with much needed cash.
U.S. sanctions means those oil refineries in China will not be able to use the U.S. dollar to do business or Or buy international insurance or dock at Western ports.
But China settles most of its purchases with Iran in Chinese Rinminbi.
And today's announcement that it will not recognize these American sanctions is a clear signal to ships carrying Iranian oil that the Chinese refiners would still be happy to receive their cargo.
Emily Fang and Pure News.
Hmm.
I mean, if Iran is receiving Rinminbi, what are they going to do with it?
What are you going to buy with that?
I mean, if you want some food, buy Chinese.
Unless you buy, unless you, yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's about it.
Why even bother with the money part?
Just ship some missiles over.
Oh, because that's not that easy.
Nah.
Nah.
The shadow fleet is real.
That's for sure.
You have to look at a world map of all the oil tankers in the ocean at one time.
Yeah, there's hundreds.
It's like millions.
I don't know about millions, but there's a lot of them.
Well, there's thousands.
Hundreds.
I'd say hundreds.
I don't know about thousands.
I think there's at least a thousand.
What are you eating?
I'm having a lozenge.
Oh, okay.
Valid.
So, eh.
I don't know.
I think that we've got OPEC falling apart.
You've got UAE.
They're like, hey, we want to pump more.
We want more.
We're buddies.
We want to be in the dollar.
We can do 5 million barrels.
Then Saudi Arabia goes, hey, we can do that.
We want to do some more oil.
And then more oil, more oil.
Yeah, once they all get the bug.
Yeah.
Then you won't even need Iranian oil.
It's like, bah, we got enough of this stuff.
It's good.
Yeah, I can see it.
Now, of course, we have some issues with the war, or should we say it's a military operation?
I'm not sure if we call it a war, military operation.
Is it a war?
I don't know what it's called anymore, just an embargo.
I don't know.
You say that you're not actively at war.
Here is what President Trump had to say on Friday.
I want to play it for you.
Get your reaction on the other side.
This is from This Morning Meet the Press with Todd Blanche.
They don't like the word war, and they call it a military operation.
Because that way you don't have a war, you don't have legal problems.
Is the president effectively arguing.
If you don't call it a war, you don't have legal problems.
He's talking about the War Powers Resolution.
Yeah, right.
Because that way you don't have a war, you don't have legal problems.
Is the president effectively arguing that he can avoid congressional approval by avoiding using the word war?
He's not effectively arguing anything except that he is trying to keep this country safe.
Oh, okay.
All right, Todd.
All right, Todd Blanchard.
There's a good yes, man.
Let's go to NBC.
The war is now 60 days old, an important marker.
A 1973 law requires the president to end military conflicts unless the commander in chief gets congressional approval to continue.
The administration says the ongoing ceasefire paused that 60 day clock.
Republican leadership agrees.
But Democrats and some Republicans say it's time Congress gets involved.
One GOP lawmaker says she plans to introduce an authorization for use of military force.
AUMF, when the Senate returns.
The president should have come to Congress before engaging in military action at this scale that we're seeing now, and that regrettably did not happen.
Iran essentially shut down the Strait of Hormuz when fighting started.
Now, a new memo seen by NBC News shows the administration launching a new effort to get allies to reopen the waterway and get oil tankers moving.
This, as American drivers face surging gas prices, with the average cost of a gallon now.
$4.39.
But in many parts of the country, it's even higher.
$6.19, I'm not touching it.
Around $40, $50 to fill my tank, but now it's from empty, it's $80 to $90.
That's forced drivers to find alternative ways of getting around.
I just got a monthly bus pass.
And putting in that calculation of how much this thing costs and how much it costs to drive every day, it just makes so much more sense as a college student just to do this.
President Trump says he doesn't need congressional approval for the war.
In letters to Congress today, he says the hostilities that began on February 28th terminated the day the ceasefire began last month.
But he did not address the naval blockade on Iranian ports.
That's not war.
That's just a blockade.
Come on.
Congress is flummoxed by this.
Like, well, no one ever did this.
No one ever called us something else.
Oh, wait a minute.
Blanche, Blanche.
Republican Senator Susan Collins posted The president's authority as commander in chief is not without limits.
That deadline is not a suggestion, it is a requirement.
Are there any legal limits on the president's powers to carry out the war with Iran?
Suggesting that President Trump or this administration or the Department of War is violating the law is just completely wrong.
It's not appropriate to say that.
We are not, we are complying with the law.
Oh man, he is a yes man.
Don't answer the question, just say it's inappropriate, it's wrong.
Axios reports, per sources, the plan set a one month deadline for negotiations on a deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, end the U.S. naval blockade, and permanently end the war in Iran and in Lebanon.
Per the Iranian proposal, only after such a deal is reached, another month of negotiations would be launched to try and reach a deal on the nuclear program, the two sources said.
The president is leaving the door open for more strikes if a deal is not reached.
Yes.
We continue.
This will go on.
It'll be another month at least.
And ABC, well, maybe if we just tell him that his numbers suck.
And in this new ABC News, Washington Post Ipsos poll, Trump is underwater on every single issue they tested, with two thirds of Americans saying the.
If you're underwater, what is the baseline for underwater?
I think 50%.
Okay.
The country is headed in the wrong direction.
But that being said, his base is still with him.
85% of Republicans over.
Approve, but look closer.
The share who strongly approve has dropped to 45 percent, and that is the lowest among Republicans across both of his terms.
Then, if we dig into the issues that's driving this, about three quarters of Americans disapprove of how Trump is handling the cost of living.
Roughly two thirds disapprove on the economy, the issue that Trump campaigned on, and a majority say using military force against Iran was a mistake, Gio.
Steak.
It's a big mistake.
And of course, the president.
Starlink Smuggling and Illegal Access00:13:08
Ducey, he must have tea with the president all the time, don't you think?
Well, he's definitely the number one go to guy for the press corps.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he gets the questions ahead of time.
And I'm sure it's like, make it sound good, Ducey.
Look different.
I mean, do we want to go and just blast the hell out of them and finish them forever, or do we want to try and make a deal?
I mean, those are the options.
Do you want to go blast the hell out of them?
I prefer not.
On a human basis, I prefer not, but that's the option.
Do we want to go in there heavy and just blast them away, or do we want to do something?
They're a very disjointed unity, as you can understand, Peter.
Very disjointed.
I mean, they're not getting along with each other, and it puts us in a bad position.
One group.
Wants to make a certain deal.
The other group wants to make a certain deal, including the hardliners.
The hardliners want to make a deal, too.
Why wouldn't they?
They have no Navy.
They have no Air Force.
They have no anti aircraft.
They have no nothing.
Something about a New Yorker saying they have no nothing.
It's just great.
They have no nothing.
But on the way back, when we're done with Iran, which I think will probably be in about 45 days, when we're done with Iran, we're going to swing by Cuba.
Thank you, Dan.
Good job.
An architect who's really talented, he's done a lot of work for him.
He's got a flair, a beautiful Hispanic flair in particular, and he comes from originally a place called Cuba, which we will be taking over almost immediately.
No, Cuba's got problems.
We'll finish one first.
I like to finish a job.
On the way back from what we'll do, on the way back from Iran, we'll have one of our big, maybe the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, the biggest in the world, will have that come in, stop about 100 yards offshore, and they'll say, Thank you very much.
We give up.
People get so disjointed over these jokes.
Seriously, I see it in the troll room.
He's laughing about murdering people.
Get a grip on your pearls.
And this was a gem about Ilhan Omar.
Your president in true stand up form.
But JD's done a great job.
Thousands and thousands of people are.
It's a fraud.
I mean, look at the wonderful country.
It's a beautiful country.
You should try it sometime.
Somalia.
It's a beautiful place.
It's got no government.
It's got no military.
It's got no anything.
It's got one thing that's really strong crime.
It's got a lot of crime.
They have no police.
All they do is run around shooting each other.
It's filthy, dirty, disgusting, dirty.
It's a horrible place.
They come here and Ilhan Omar.
You ever hear of her?
Very popular.
She heads it.
And think of it.
They have nothing but crime, poverty, pollution.
Everything is horrible over there.
Nothing good.
They say it's the worst country anywhere in the world.
We got some beauties out there, but it's the worst.
And then she comes here from Somalia and she tells us how to run the United States of America.
She says, She says, the Constitution gives me certain rights.
Gives me certain rights.
And I demand that I be given these rights.
Get the hell out.
What a phony.
And then she married a brother to come in.
I don't know.
You don't.
But I think, I would imagine they're looking at her.
I have nothing to do with it.
I would imagine.
Of course, I have nothing to do.
I have nothing.
But.
I believe she married her brother, which is totally illegal.
Although it's a lovely couple, actually, but it's a little bit on the illegal side.
Darling, I love you very much.
Good night, brother.
Let's go to bed.
Isn't she despicable?
I can't stand watching.
I'm going to miss him.
I'm going to miss him.
I think it's funny.
So many people get so upset about this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's unexpected.
You know, and nobody knows what to make of it.
It's okay if you're upset about it, and I'm okay with that, and I'm okay with you being upset about it, but not if you're on SSRIs, okay?
Just make sure if you're on SSRIs and you're upset about it, your meds ain't working, okay?
You got to get different meds.
So, when the topic of Iran, I might as well get this out of the way.
The smuggling of the satellite receivers going on right now is kind of.
A topic of discussion.
This is Iran internet smuggling NPR.
A network of Iranians have been smuggling Starlink satellite terminals into the country.
The technology is the most common way of bypassing the internet blackout in Iran, one of the longest in history.
Our reporter, Rahat Kansara, has more.
The Iranian regime has proven that during a shutdown, they can kill.
It is crucial for Iranians to be able to portray the real picture of the situation on the ground.
I'm speaking to an Iranian man who is part of a clandestine network.
Dotted across the globe, helping to smuggle Starlink terminals into Iran.
Plus, we want to make sure that whatever gets out of the country is not being manipulated by the Iranian regime's narrative.
What he's doing is putting a lot of people inside the country, including his family, in danger.
He only agreed to speak to me on the condition that I do not reveal his real identity.
We purchase Starlinks and smuggle them through the borders.
It's a very complex operation.
I'm not going to give you the exact number, but we have sent over a dozen, and we are actively looking for other ways to smuggle in more.
The satellite technology, which helps people connect to the Internet, has become a vital communications lifeline for tens of thousands of people in Iran.
For more than two months, they've been in a digital black hole.
It was triggered by the ongoing war with Israel and the US.
The Iranian government said they shut down the Internet because of security concerns.
It's one of the longest nationwide internet shutdowns in the world to be recorded.
90 million people have been cut off from access to their loved ones, their livelihoods, and the news.
I don't think this is entirely true anymore.
Commercial flights, I've heard, have resumed from Tehran.
Phones seem to be working.
And I hope on May 11th, which I think is Monday, I'm going to have.
Dinner with Lex and his wife, who has all her family in Tehran, and I'll get some more boots on the ground.
But I don't think it's quite that bad as portrayed here.
It could be not as bad as portrayed, but I think it's interesting that Musk's system has become such an interesting kind of a proposition for people that need to get internet access without going through channels.
Well, this is the internet in a suitcase.
Remember that?
Well, that's a little more than that, I think.
No.
I mean, the internet in the suitcase, that was the whole idea.
It was pre Starlink.
Yeah.
Oh, no, it was definitely pre.
Let's see.
Here's Lucifer.
I get a lot of invitations to speak these days.
Oh, that was the kid.
That was that kid who was working at the State Department who later had to leave.
He was the internet in the suitcase.
But I have one.
You know, Musk sent out some bonus deal because I have the Starlink as a backup.
Yeah, I know.
I thought you had it hooked up.
No, I have Starlink hooked up, but that's a pretty big dish.
And then he said for $5 a month, if you don't hook it up, we'll just charge you $5 a month.
You get the mini portable one, which is really tiny.
How tiny?
It would fit in a briefcase.
The whole thing.
Well, give us the dimensions of the dish.
I have to get it.
Not even a dish, actually, just a flat dish.
I'll play your second clip and I'll get it out of the closet.
Yeah, play the second clip.
Okay.
But it's not the first time this year the internet has been switched off.
In January, the country was plunged into darkness during a deadly crackdown on protests.
Media organizations, including the BBC, relied on a drip feed of information from inside the country, a lot of which was shared on social media using Starlink Internet to verify and document atrocities committed by the authorities.
Marwa Fatafta from digital rights group Access Now says the blackout helps the government conceal what's happening inside the country.
In times of crisis, this is not only an attack on freedom of expression, press freedom, or access to information, it's a matter of survival.
Shutdowns inflict serious.
Physical, psychological, and economic harms on people, and they shatter a society's ability to preserve and withstand hardships.
And no matter what the justification may be for a government to kill the switch, communications blackouts are a clear violation of human rights and they can never be justified.
Multiple arrests have been made of Iranians importing, procuring, selling, and buying Starlink.
Many have been accused of espionage.
From the Boroman Center for Human Rights says since the regime came into power in 1979, it's always sought to conceal information.
Only its methods have changed.
Iran has denied citizens' right to seek, receive, and impart information for decades.
But in the face of internal calls for regime change and external military attacks, it has escalated the hunt and the arrest of citizens who circumvent censorship using Starlink devices.
It's about the size of an iPad.
Oh.
And it weighs one kilo.
There's a two pound iPad.
It's a slab, but yeah, that's it.
It's like an iPad Pro.
It's just a flat panel.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
It's a.
Let me see the depth here.
The depth is about an inch and a half.
Oh, it's.
Yeah, I guess that gives it enough room.
Yeah.
So it's small.
I mean, you could put it in your pants.
You could smuggle it in your pants.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
That's the only, I mean, you can't hate the guy for that.
That's Starling stuff, although he doesn't do reverse DNS, which is a real problem.
That's kind of wonky network wise.
A lot of nerds complain about that.
Like, you don't have reverse DNS.
Not everything's going to work well.
Well, you know, one of the problems you have with all this gear.
Is that in the UK, for example, you know, they have these roving vans with the big dish on the roof looking for people with illegal TVs.
Yeah.
Because the.
It's not even a big dish.
It's a small dish.
I've seen them.
It's not even a big dish.
No, no, no, no.
It's a small dish.
Well, they look for the illegal TVs because you have to have a license in the UK to watch television, which is ludicrous.
But it's their system.
Well, yeah, they have a king.
They have a king.
Let them.
No kings, man.
No kings, man.
It's unclear when the internet will be restored.
But a government spokesperson has said once the situation returns to normal, so will internet access.
The smuggler and others like him will continue to fight for vital information to get in and out of Iran until restrictions are lifted.
I think people on the world should hear the real voice of Iranians.
Google Pentagon Classified AI Deal00:02:24
This is our goal, and we will continue working towards it.
Yeah.
End.
Okay.
Well, I'll find out more next week or the week after, Tuesday, the 11th, hopefully.
We'll find out more.
Find out more.
Find out more.
Let's see.
Let's do a little big tech AI news.
What's fun?
A little big tech AI.
No AI news.
AI news.
Yes, everyone's joining in now.
Everyone's, we're good.
Hey, man, we're good.
You can use our stuff.
Let's do war with our stuff because it's so solid.
Alphabet's Google has reportedly joined a list of tech firms to sign a deal with the U.S. Department of Defense.
It's to use its AI models for classified work.
The information reported the deal on Tuesday, citing a person familiar with the matter.
It added the agreement allows the Pentagon to use Google's AI for any lawful government purpose and puts it alongside OpenAI and Elon Musk's XAI, which also have deals to supply AI models for classified use.
Classified networks are used to handle a wide range of sensitive work, they include mission planning and weapons targeting.
Reuters couldn't verify the report.
The Pentagon signed agreements worth up to $200 million each with major AI labs last year, including Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google.
Reuters had earlier reported the Pentagon wanted top AI companies to make their tools available on classified networks without the standard restrictions they apply to users.
The information reported Google's agreement requires it to help in adjusting the company's AI safety settings and filters at the government's request.
Alphabet and the US Department of Defense, which has now been renamed the Department of War by President Trump didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.
Google said it supports government agencies across both classified and non classified projects and added it was committed to the consensus AI shouldn't be used for domestic mass surveillance or autonomous weaponry without appropriate human oversight.
The Pentagon has said it has no interest in using AI to conduct mass surveillance of Americans or to develop weapons that operate without human involvement, but wants any lawful use of AI to be allowed.
Anthropic Investors and Enterprise Safety00:03:14
I like the.
But we don't need your AI for mass surveillance.
We just buy it.
Yeah, we're doing it the old way, old fashioned way.
Buy it from Google.
We don't need to spend money on you guys for that.
Yeah.
That's stuff I have to say that for certain things, the stuff is really, really impressive.
Although Dave Jones over there at Podcast Index, he and I have been doing comparisons.
And if you use Claude code with Opus 4.7, which will cost, if you want to get Anything done, $100 a month, if you really are using it a lot, $200 a month, which is a lot of money.
He's using PI, PI.dev, which is an agentic thing.
And you can connect that to any large language model.
And he has, at his job, a $3,500 machine.
I forget what he calls it, but it has all the RAM and everything in it that you need.
And he's running Quen 3.6, 35 billion parameter.
It is equal.
Equal to Claude Code with Anthropics Opus 4.7, except you don't have to pay a subscription.
You got to shell out some money up front.
So when you hear the next clip, these guys are going to run into trouble.
The investors will run into trouble somewhere down the road.
And it's been a tough week for OpenAI.
Reports of missing key targets, Sam Altman on trial against Elon Musk, and now rival Anthropics business may have caught up.
Kate Rooney has more in TechCheck.
Hi, Kate.
Hi, Kelly.
So that's what we're hearing.
I am hearing that Anthropic right now is in talks to raise another round of capital.
If it does go forward as planned, it could value this AI giant at as much as $900 billion.
This is according to a source familiar with those deal talks, Kelly.
No term sheets have been signed yet, from what I'm told.
Discussions are still ongoing, and Anthropic did decline to comment.
But this would be more than double the company's last valuation in private markets and then put it ahead of rival OpenAI, which was last worth around $850 billion.
That was after its record fundraise earlier this year.
It does come as both of these AI giants.
Look to go public as soon as the end of this year, according to sources.
Could depend on market conditions, but Anthropics' exploding revenue growth has been the main reason that investors have been lining up to back them.
So Anthropics' last reported run rate was around $30 billion.
Sources now tell me that is closer to $35 billion.
It would be up from $10 billion just last year.
So Claude Code has been the major revenue driver here for this company.
Also, a lot of intrigue around mythos.
This, of course, is the cybersecurity model.
It's gotten a lot of buzz.
It is now only available to a select group of companies.
But it's really added to the allure for investors when we talk about the potential power of these models.
In the last hour, though, Anthropic did make another move in the cybersecurity space that launched Clog Security.
This is just for enterprise customers.
The company says it's going to be giving security teams a way to find vulnerabilities.
Hundreds of organizations, they say, have already used it.
But it is not mythos.
This is a model that's already publicly available, Kelly.
SAG AFTRA Midterms Guild Strike00:07:16
Yeah, this is not going to end well.
There's too much money in no money companies.
No money companies.
What makes you think that?
I can do math.
I can calculate.
This is not going to work out.
Well, maybe after the midterms.
Something's got to.
I mean, how much longer can these guys delay their IPO?
They have to come out sooner.
No, it has to be sooner than later.
Yeah.
Do you think it'll be before the midterms?
Well, it may be before the midterms, but it's not going to.
The collapse won't be before the midterms.
Will the collapse be in 2027, you think?
Early 2027?
It's got to be next year.
Yeah.
It's going to be so, so amazing to watch.
I mean, it'll suck, but it'll be good.
It's not going to be good for the donations to the show.
No.
You have enough trouble.
Could it get any worse?
All right.
Now, the people who clearly are going to lose out are Hollywood.
Hollywood is just struggling.
They are struggling to hold on.
And the Oscars who are going to YouTube.
They put their foot down.
Yeah, they did.
Artificial intelligence could revolutionize the film industry, but it won't be winning any Oscars.
New rules set out by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences on Friday stated that in the acting category, only roles credited in the film's legal billing and demonstrably performed by humans with their consent will be considered eligible.
The new rules also say screenplays must be human authored to be eligible.
They come hot on the heels of the unveiling of an AI version of the deceased film star Val Kilmer at CinemaCon, a yearly event that showcases new films for cinema owners.
The producer of the film, called As Deep as the Grave, explained.
We do take archival footage, pictures, and voice recordings to build a character.
And from there, we have to integrate that character into what we already filmed.
And we're making a bold claim, bold statement, which is that we believe we're doing this in an ethical way.
The director of the film was at Pains to reassure both actors and the wider film community.
Actors are not going to be replaced, and we're going to make sure that that doesn't happen.
And that really comes down to the entire community coming together to help set these guidelines and guardrails for everybody so we can follow a structure because the technology is going to be here no matter what we do.
The Academy declined to comment on if Val Kilmore's AI rendered performance would be eligible for an Oscar, saying that eligibility would be reviewed on a case by case basis.
I think we should make a pact.
You know, if I die before you, I fully endorse recreating me with AI.
Okay, you're done.
Tourette's and all.
Make sure it's all in there.
Make sure it's accurate.
Darren can do it.
He's prompting as we speak.
Darren's got all these little.
He doesn't get a lot of play, but I've been reposting the little animations he's been doing.
Yeah.
Yeah, with the girls.
Pretty dynamite.
The girls?
Yeah, there are always some girls.
He's got a cartoon version now, which was pretty decent.
Although, for some reason, the no agenda shirt on one girl turned from.
Black to green.
Oh, well.
Right in the middle of the animation.
Oh, well.
How does that happen?
You can't iterate.
Once it's done, you got to accept it or re prompt and you just get a whole new version.
Yeah, you must just go with it, you know.
But yeah, the Val Kilmer thing is one.
But Star Wars had a, or it was either Star Wars or an old Star Trek movie.
There was a dead actor, but they had to bring him in to, this was years ago.
They had to bring in a kind of a model of him.
Because he was necessary for the storyline.
Yeah.
And he wasn't even alive.
And they put it in.
Nobody ever talked much about it.
Oh, that's great.
And then there was the movie, the Scorsese movie, where they had De Niro and all these people 20 years younger.
20 years younger.
Their ages were younger.
Yeah.
They're all basically masked.
No, but this is about money.
It's just about money.
I say now, as I speak, you may recreate me when I'm gone and make money off of me, please.
Well, we'll see what happens with the Courier State.
The Courier State.
Yeah, the Courier State.
We're pissed off.
Okay.
Here's SAG AFTRA to round this out.
It looks like this is the Writers and the Screen Actors Guild, but not everybody's here.
I don't think the Directors Guild is set yet.
We are following developing news now.
SAG AFTRA has reached a tentative agreement with the major Hollywood studios, avoiding a repeat of the strikes from just Three years ago.
NBC4's Macy Jenkins is live outside DC.
By the way, the troll room is asking, can we do it now?
Well, I'd have to approve it now.
If you can do it now, we can split the pros.
It won't be as good.
Well, if it is.
It won't be as good.
Come on.
Okay.
I got to headquarters in mid Wilshire.
Macy.
Hi, Kathy and Jonathan.
Well, listen, we will not know what's in that agreement until the SAG National Board has a chance to review it.
One of the biggest issues, just like it was.
Three years ago, protections against AI, which is getting smarter and more advanced.
Smarter.
Smarter.
This cinematic showdown between Hollywood A-listers Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise drew millions of views on social media earlier this year and harsh critiques because this is completely AI-generated.
They're taking the likeness of major performers like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and they're just able to replicate it in seconds.
It's a major concern for SAG-AFTRA actors like.
Chuck Slavin, one he hopes is addressed in the tentative agreement reached Saturday between SAG and the AMPTP, the alliance of motion picture and television producers.
Well, I have to tell you, I'm a little concerned.
Overall, I think the future is rapidly changing, and I think that we certainly need to protect image likeness when it comes to AI.
We need to ensure that members get royalties and residuals on the work that they're doing.
Scanning is a major threat.
A tentative deal avoids a repeat of 2023, when SAGAFTA's 160,000 plus members went on strike for four months, demanding fair pay and protections against AI stealing their livelihood.
It comes just one month after the Writers Guild of America reached a four year deal with the AMPTP.
Historically, these contracts have been three year deals, but in exchange for adding the fourth year in the WGA's recent agreement, the union received a $321 million infusion into its health fund.
Looking at how fast technology is advancing, a four year deal locks us into a disadvantage.
Yeah, so you all considered home being sick.
Well, that's great.
Now, Hollywood loses.
Epstein Judge Suicide Note Mystery00:09:05
They lose.
They lose.
That's just.
No, they've got to lose for sure.
Yeah, they've already kind of lost.
I mean, they have no stories.
Everything is a sequel.
What is the new sequel coming out?
Something, another new sequel?
Everything's a sequel.
Yeah, everything, they ran out of ideas.
Yeah.
How did that happen?
How did that happen?
Let me ask you.
How did that happen?
It's never happened before.
They were making movies back in the silent era, in the 20s and the 30s.
There were all kinds of great movies.
The 40s, great movies.
50s, great movies.
60s and 70s, especially the 70s, tremendous films.
What happened?
Too many movies being made.
There's not enough, not enough.
Uh, they're not doing them.
I wouldn't say there's a ton of them being made now, are there?
Oh, yeah.
I think there's a short, but they were used to make, yeah.
No, they're going straight to Netflix in eight, you know, mini movies.
That's what tons of crappy movies on Netflix, yeah, where it's it should be an hour and a half movie and they turn into eight hours and call it a series.
And then if it gets enough, then they'll do it, you know, they'll do another series, yeah.
That's it.
Well, we're due for another uh Blair Witch project, one of those deals.
Some kids come along and do something that blows everybody away.
Dirt cheap, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that's going to happen.
What do you make of this Epstein suicide note?
Well, here's a clip.
No, hold on a second.
Here we go.
I got it.
New tonight did accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein write a suicide note before attempting to take his own life?
The New York Times reporting that a note may exist and is being held under seal by a federal judge.
Epstein allegedly writing, It's time to say goodbye.
According to this man, convicted murderer Nicholas Tartaglione, a former NYPD officer who shared a cell with Epstein in 2019.
Tartaglione said something similar in a podcast last year.
Jeffrey Epstein wrote a suicide note.
He says he discovered the note after Epstein's apparent suicide attempt weeks before his actual death.
It was in my book.
Yeah, when I got back into the cell, I opened my book to read, and there it was.
Tartaglione adding, It said something like FBI looked into me for months and found nothing.
NBC News has not seen the note, and the Times says it has not either.
In a statement, the DOJ says it is hard to comment on a note it has not seen, adding the department underwent an exhaustive effort to collect all records.
Epstein's death, which the medical examiner's office declared a suicide, has been the subject of intense scrutiny, with many speculating without proof that Epstein was murdered.
A suicide note could potentially dispel the conspiracies.
The New York Times is asking the federal court to unseal the alleged suicide note, which is caught up in Tartaglione's.
Legal proceeding.
The Times are arguing he talked about the note in that podcast, and public interest in Epstein is immense.
I got an interview with Steve Eder.
He's one of the reporters on the byline for that story about the note.
He was on CNN.
Listen to this.
Now, the Times reports that the alleged suicide note was sealed by a federal judge as part of the cellmate's criminal case.
My source on this tonight is on the byline of this story the investigative reporter for the New York Times, Steve Eder.
And thank you, sir, for being here because I want to start with how this possible note was recovered.
The cellmate apparently says he found the note in his cell tucked into a graphic novel.
How did it end up locked away by a judge?
What's a graphic novel?
Is that a comic book?
Yeah, it takes a circuitous path, I guess, to being locked away from a judge.
But basically, the short of it is that the cellmate says that he discovered the note in the days after Epstein was found injured in his cell, right?
And he turned it over to his lawyers.
His lawyers, apparently, according to a document that we reviewed, tried to authenticate it, weren't able to right away.
And then it ended up being moved over to His criminal case, not the Epstein case, but this other case that was playing out kind of parallel and ended up sort of sequestered from the Epstein proceedings in this whole other separate case for years now.
And in that case, the judge put the letter, this purported note under seal.
If you're interested, I have another clip that explains the process of how it got under seal.
Yes, please.
Before we get to the contents of the note and what it might mean, why is it locked up in a courthouse?
Like, why wasn't it released as?
Part of the Epstein document, John.
Yes, so even before that, John, good morning to you.
I think it's important to discuss whether it's authentic or not.
I want to get to that, but just tell me why it's locked up first.
So what happened is that it was under seal, and apparently judges have vast discretion with respect to whether they're putting something under seal, which means it's not in the public's view.
It's not in the court records.
If you go, and right now we have a system in federal court, state court too, where you can literally go into the docket and look at a variety of materials.
Well, there are some materials.
That are sensitive, that are not going to be in that docket because a judge in that judge's discretion will seal it.
That's what they did here.
Remember, this involves Tartaglione.
Who's he?
He's a person who was convicted.
He was Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate, and he ultimately was convicted for four, yes, four quadruple murder.
And as a result of that and them sharing a cell, he purportedly, that is, Mr. Tartaglione, found the note, reported it to his lawyers.
He had about 18 of them, by the way, over the course of time.
And they got involved, the lawyers did, with respect, hey, what should we do with the note?
How do we authenticate the note?
Should we put the note under seal?
It became the subject of a lot of controversy.
The attorneys argued it was attorney client privilege incident to their communications and them seeking advice.
And will Jeffrey Epstein claim that I actually, Tartaglione, his cellmate, killed him or tried to kill him?
And so what do we do?
And so the judge ultimately said it's going to be away from public view.
It's going to be in a vault in the federal courthouse, and it has remained there for all this time.
Basically, a judge has it under his purview right now, involved in a separate case, which is why it was not part of the Epstein case.
Files per se and the source here.
This is from a cellmate charged with four murders, quadruple murder, who said he found the note and is the only person that we know so far to tell us what was on it.
Time to say goodbye.
So, the credibility of the source?
Yeah, John, I think that's important to talk about.
And at the time he was being charged, now he's convicted and he's serving these four life sentences.
And so, you have to question, right, what we call the veracity.
Is it something that we could credit the fact that he said it?
That I found this note, it said, Time to say goodbye.
It had a smiley face.
What am I going to do now?
Burst out in tears.
They found nothing, meaning indicating what was on that particular note.
Well, I don't think this means very much.
Very much.
It's interesting, though, how that happened.
Yeah, it's kind of fascinating, I guess.
I didn't realize it's so easy to ditch stuff.
Yeah.
There's another, man, you predicted this so early on about parents getting sued, getting locked up for their children's crimes.
Yeah, well, it hasn't really caught on yet to an extreme.
No, it's catching.
A beloved Vietnam War veteran and teacher has died two weeks after he was allegedly hit.
By a teen on an e motorcycle.
Now the teen's mother is facing manslaughter charges.
CBS LA's Nicole Comstock with the charges and the heartbreak from friends of the victim.
After a two week long fight for his life, treasured Vietnam veteran and Orange County teacher Ed Ashman has died.
This after prosecutors say a 14 year old boy illegally riding a powerful e motorcycle hit Ashman while he was walking home from school and left him in the street.
Was 81, and I didn't want to see him go out like that.
His longtime friends and neighbors say after serving our country with honor as a fighter pilot, then dedicating his golden years to mentoring the next generation at El Toro High School, it's a shame that a young teen's actions allegedly led to his death.
The Vietnam War, he went through that, and then this happened.
The boy's mom, Tammy Jo Maher, has now been charged with involuntary manslaughter.
The new felony complaint alleges she was also an accessory after the fact.
Harboring and concealing her son so he could avoid arrest and punishment.
Police say they already told the boy's mother a year ago on body worn camera that she could face criminal charges for continuing to allow her son to ride the e motorcycle that requires a driver's license.
Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer says in writing this mother essentially handed her 14 year old son a deadly weapon and, despite multiple warnings on the dangers, continued to let him illegally ride.
Drunk Manslaughter Charges for Mom00:04:31
Hmm.
Well, they get this kind of an open and shut case.
It's a little more easier to push than someone who's just a careless parent and lets their kid go wild.
Well, this is a question for Darren O'Neill.
He keeps track of the murders and shootings in Chicago.
How many parents of those kids, because a lot of them are kids, do you ever hear in a story like this?
Well, none yet.
No, none.
It's going to happen.
That doesn't seem like it's.
You have to get it built.
There has to be a buildup of case law.
So it's going to have to be after, you know, maybe dozens of cases like this go through.
And so you can put together this kind of an indictment based on something that's happened already.
But it never used to be that way.
I don't understand.
I mean, it used to go to juvie.
Why the parents now?
I just don't get it.
It doesn't make sense from a legal perspective.
It will.
Shut up.
It will make sense.
Shut up.
It will.
Shut up.
The law will be the law.
I don't like it.
Well, I kind of like it.
So, okay.
How about a drunk or not drunk?
Oh, we haven't had one of those in a while.
I don't even know if I can find the jingle or not.
Drunk.
Yeah, it's open for the jingle.
Not drunk.
Drunk or not drunk.
Let me see.
I have it here.
I think I have it here.
No, that's not it.
You know, whatever happened to that jingle?
Drunk or not drunk?
I have a million drunk or not drunks, but none of them says, This is the jingle, Adam, the one you're looking for.
Oh, here it is.
In fact, I have it drunk or not drunk.
Jingle original.
Drunk or not drunk.
Found it.
Yeah, found it.
All right, here we go.
Can't wait.
I've set it up.
This is one of the Reverend Al's meetups, and he's got Kamala Harris.
So are you going to run again in 28?
Listen, I might.
I might.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm thinking about it.
But let me say this.
Let me say this.
I am thinking about it.
But let me also say this.
Look, I served for four years.
Being a heartbeat away from the presidency of the United States.
I spent countless hours in my West Wing office, footsteps away from the Oval Office.
I spent countless hours in the Oval Office and the Situation Room.
I know what the job is, and I know what it requires, and I am thinking about it in the context of then, you know, is who and where and how.
Can the best job be done for the American people?
That's how I'm thinking about it.
I'll keep you posted.
I'll keep you posted.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris.
Drunk or not drunk?
I'm going to say not drunk.
I think she's not drunk.
I think it's a different, you need a different jingle for her.
Black or not black.
I think she's trying to do kind of a.
Oh, geez.
Yeah, she's kind of trying to do like an urban type vibe, you know?
I was just steps, heartbeat away, heartbeat away from the presidency.
No, I don't think she's drunk here.
You think she's drunk?
Okay, I just seem drunk to me.
Well, okay.
I mean, she seems drunk to me all the time.
How about SSRIs?
Oh, interesting.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
I have this old PBS NewsHour clip, and the only reason I want to play it is because it's got the 33,000 is in the.
In the title.
Okay.
And three is a magic number.
Ukraine Drones and Passport Pictures00:15:29
Okay.
This is Ukraine shot down 33,000 Russian attack drones.
Ukraine says it shot down more than 33,000 Russian drones in March.
That's the most in a single month since Russia's invasion more than four years ago.
Ukraine has been ramping up its drone capabilities in response to Russia's relentless aerial attacks and increasingly taking the fight back across the border.
Officials said today Ukrainian forces can now strike much deeper inside Russia.
Than they could at the start of the war.
Earlier this month, Moscow accused European nations of expanding drone support to Kyiv, prompting a warning today from Russia's defense minister.
This sort of action facilitates the sharp escalation of the military and political situation across the entire European continent and can have unpredictable consequences.
Just yesterday, Poland's prime minister announced that his country will partner with Ukraine to manufacture what he described as a drone armada.
Poland and Russia share a border, and Russia has violated Polish airspace on a number of occasions since the Ukraine war started.
Now, the clip I'm most interested in, just perusing your list, is the limited edition Trump passport.
Yeah, you know about that.
No?
No, I don't, but I'm interested, and I'll tell you why after I play your clip.
The U.S. state passport.
I'm going to guess why.
Okay.
Your passport's running out and you want to get one.
Yes!
The U.S. State Department is rolling out a new limited edition passport that includes a picture of President Trump.
The State Department posted what it called a sneak peek on social media.
It shows the president's image on the inside cover with his signature in gold lettering at the bottom.
The back cover shows a more traditional scene of the Declaration of Independence.
The release is part of the commemorations marking the 250th anniversary of American independence.
It's also the latest effort to put Mr. Trump's mark on the nation, which includes his images on government buildings, his name on what was the Kennedy Center, and a planned arch in Washington, among others.
Yeah, this is an obvious collectible.
I feel the same way.
I want to get one, too, because my passport's expired.
Oh, you should get on that right away.
You can do that now.
Well, no, you don't want to get on it right away because it hasn't been released yet.
It's coming out in the summer.
Oh, okay.
And it's only going to be a limited edition, I believe, of 50,000.
Oh, okay.
So, you're going to have to get in right at the right moment.
So, I got a note from the State Department.
They send out emails now and they say, hey, you can renew online.
This is crazy.
You can make your own passport picture.
And they show you how to do that.
And I did that with my passport already years ago, decades ago.
Do you remember?
Decades ago.
Do you remember?
You used to have to go to a special photographer.
He had to have special film, a special backdrop.
It was all special, special, special, a special dude.
Special shop.
They had to wait and had to develop it, you know, in a dark room.
It used to be very complicated.
Now you can just take your own picture and submit it.
This was years ago.
The last two passports I've had, I took my own picture with a digital camera at the right, you know, against a blank wall, cut it out and submitted it.
It went in the passport just fine.
Well, this isn't new.
When I renewed mine, which was.
Seven years ago, for some reason, I got a seven year passport.
I don't know why.
Maybe it was 10 years, nine years ago.
He couldn't do it.
That was not.
I don't know how you got to do that, but there was no offer for me to do that online with my own.
I just did it.
Just now, you said.
You just did it.
You just, here's my.
Did you do it with your phone in the drawer with that one?
No, I used a good quality camera.
Oh, okay.
I had a perfect background.
It was exactly the same as you'd get.
I had Jay or somebody take my picture and two or three times and took the best one, cut it into the exact right set, blew it up to the right size, printed it out myself, and then cut it into a square and submitted it and went right through it.
And this is, like I said, at least two passports ago.
Huh.
Well, I was unaware.
Anyway, I want one of them, so I'll wait until it's released.
I'll try and get in on that.
Yeah, this is going to be a timing issue.
It's a hot item.
I want that.
Well, a lot of people probably don't want it.
I like it.
I want it.
That'd be hilarious.
I want this gold coin.
I want everything I can get because we're never going to see this.
You know, somebody back in 2020 sent me a box full of Trump collectibles.
Oh, what'd you do?
You know, phony dollar bills.
Yeah, I got those.
I got the Trump.
And a bunch of coinage and stickers and all kinds of stuff.
It was just a huge.
And it was just so much stuff.
I just packed it up and put it in the attic.
Probably be worth a fortune someday.
So listen to this.
The last NoAgenda meetup, you know, which was here at J6 or Jennings.
Place and people were very kind and donating on the spot.
And so we counted, you know, we count out the money and then we send you the check.
And then, you know, we because we do that all officially, we don't want it to, you know, there's nothing, it's all above board.
We pay our taxes.
Yeah.
We pay taxes.
And so many taxes.
And so, Tina, I'm usually like, just keep the cash around, you know.
Tina's like, now I gotta take it to the bank.
We take it to the bank and, you know, like maybe six $100 bills.
And the bank manager's like, um, Do you realize that these are not all real?
I'm like, what?
You had six counterfeit bills?
No, two were $100 bills with Trump on it.
Someone handed off phony Trump hundies.
Oh, brother.
I thought it was pretty funny.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to try and scam you, Mr. Bank.
You didn't notice?
No, no, we didn't notice it counting.
Because the back, that just looks normal.
You look at the front and like, oh, this Trump, that can't be a real $100 bill.
That's hilarious.
It was a good one.
Hello.
Can you cash this bill with Trump's picture?
Whoever did that, good work.
Hand in your night ring.
Hand in your night ring.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
In the morning to you, the man who put the C in co opted and captured, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. Mr. John C. DeMore!
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But is it really?
I think the competition's gotten harder.
People are doing more.
They're getting more into the finesse of prompting.
The same with the end of show mixes.
I think we have three great ones again today.
Do you like the one about you?
Did you hear that one?
About your open heart story?
Yeah, the one I liked the best was the heavy metal one about the show.
Yeah, the first one.
But the second one was good too, John.
I mean, you just don't like the first one the most.
Okay, well.
And I asked the guy, I said, Are you using Suno?
He said, Yeah, I'm using Suno.
So people are getting better at this prompting business.
And that goes for Blue Acorn, who just had a good idea.
And when you have a good idea and you can implement that, it just works.
It doesn't matter what tools you use, as far as I'm concerned.
This was the artwork for episode 1864.
We titled that Point Cast.
A lot of people enjoyed us talking about the old computer days.
About Point Cast.
A lot of people.
Yes, I got a lot of notes about it.
Live off our channel.
Hey, they remember the good old days.
No, it was young people who could not believe.
We had a processor technology with a North Star drive.
Wow.
A North Star drive.
Now, that's a blast from the past.
Seagate, baby.
Seagate.
Blue Acorn made us a beautiful piece of art.
It was soft sectored, not hard sectored.
Back when floppy disks were floppy, actually floppy.
This was the young ladies on the beach spelling out 8008, a classic calculator joke from the days of Seagate drives and floppy disks, a boob donation number.
And nicely slipped in there, little Nick the Rat on the Beach, little rat, little rat on the beach.
Yeah, which was nice.
Yeah, so it was a good piece.
We both liked it.
We looked at a couple other things.
We looked at noagendaartgenerator.com.
That's where everybody could participate.
Everybody can upload their work.
We use it in other things as well, not just the album art for the show, which is critical to us, but also for newsletters and for Comic Stream Blogger.
Yeah, I saw that.
So, no, CSV, just no.
Talking about Blast from the Past next to the seashells was the Flying Toasters.
Yeah, to me, I like the Flying Toaster one.
But I thought that was good.
I want to mention the flying toasters, the people that did the flying toasters, they were in Berkeley.
Yeah.
That's the company that became moveon.org.
No.
Yep.
How did they go from flying toaster screensavers to moveon.org?
They did.
They just did.
Wow.
Interesting.
A little tidbit.
That's a pivot.
Yeah, no kidding.
Honorary mention to Nestworks.
It was a little discombobulated, but I like the fact that I think he did this art with old school tools, 86 in the M5M, kicking some seashells.
It wasn't quite there.
We liked it, but it just wasn't quite there.
Very disturbing what people or what the LLMs think you should look like with Baby in the Bypass, the new podcast.
Yeah, he's apparently bald.
You're dead.
You're basically dead.
I didn't like, even I didn't like that.
I still thought the BB on the beach is funny, but we'd never use that one.
No, that's never going to happen.
But it still gives me a chuckle looking at it.
I think that would be a lot of different.
We've done shell art before when this thing came around the first time.
And just looking at what's here, there's plenty of, you still got plenty of chances to become the artwork for episode 1865, noagendaartgenerator.com.
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He comes in with one thousand.
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Here's hoping for a speedy and full recovery.
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Yes.
I have to say, the other night, I got a Charlie horse.
This Charlie horse.
Right?
In the thigh.
And that's the kind where you can't stretch your leg.
Your leg is locked up.
Yeah, it's terribly painful.
Hurts, hurts, hurts.
And I'm in the dark.
I'm in the bathroom.
I'm like, oh, what am I going to do with this?
And Tina just cleaned up the whole cabinet.
I'm like, oh.
So I'm there with the, you know, I got to get my phone.
I didn't have my phone.
So I don't have a flashlight.
My vape was in the bathroom.
So I'm using the little display from the vape and I found it.
And I put some of that Manuka Gold Relief gel on it.
Wait, wait, wait.
Was the bathroom dark?
You needed a flashlight?
Yeah, the bathroom's dark.
If I turned the light on, then Tina would wake up.
Wait, you're taking a shower?
What were you doing in a dark bathroom?
I was asleep.
It was 1 30 in the morning, and I wake up with this Charlie horse.
So I struggled to the bathroom, which is connected to the bedroom.
So, you know, if I turn on the light, I might awaken my bride.
Oh, heaven forbid.
Exactly.
Exactly, heaven forbid.
So I find it.
She kept it right in the front.
And within, this is, you know, I used to use the cow's lavender blossom stuff.
Yeah, you should just punch the Charlie horse.
I try.
Does that work for you?
Oh, yeah.
Really?
I did.
Just punch it.
I did try to punch the Charlie horse, but it didn't work out so well.
But the relief gel within seconds, I don't know if it's psychological.
I don't know how it works.
Who cares?
It works.
It works.
The placebo effect in action.
I'm happy with it.
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And what are you doing now?
I'm clicking my tongue on my mouth.
Why?
To add impact to the sales pitch.
It worked.
Thank you very much, Manuka Gold people.
Small, small family business there in Tampa, Florida.
And we're happy that No Agenda is supporting them.
That's great.
Austin, the pool guy's up.
He's in Roseville, California.
He's an associate executive producer with a $225 donation.
Hey, Adam and John, first time donor, need of a deduction.
Whoops.
Don't want to do that.
You've been deduced.
I'm a 38 year old and first saw Adam on Joe Rogan and everything said hit.
Okay.
Especially when talking about fluoride, which is still impossible to get my doctor's wife to understand.
Uh oh.
A lot of people just do not get the argument.
I love listening to John too.
He's like the grandpa I never had.
You're both amazing, and I always look forward to listening to you guys while running my own business cleaning pools.
No, he says cleaning pool.
He does say cleaning pool, but I corrected his grammar.
That's like driving a truck.
You clean pool.
All right.
Yeah, that's what he said, but I avoided it.
It's good to hear donations are coming from my area in hell Roseville.
I mean, California.
I'm in Roseville, and if anyone in this area would love top of the line pool service, I've been in business for 10 years and a No Agenda fan for two.
Please eel me at.
Eel me at mdpoolsca.
No, wait, mdpoolsca at gmail.com.
MD is for Marley's Dad pool service named after my daughter.
I'm totally looking to start a meetup in my area.
Would love to hang out with like minded individuals.
So if anyone wants to email me for that too, I'd love to get something together.
Thank you both for everything and saving people from being.
Black Pilled Daily, your new favorite pool guy, and boobs on the ground for any pool.
What?
Boots.
Oh, boots.
Boots, not boobs.
That's in your mind.
Boots on the ground for any pool related things.
Austin, the pool guy.
All right, Austin.
Thank you.
Hey, there's Eli, the coffee guy, checking in with 205.03.
He's always at $200.
And then the date, 5 3.
He says, We've all been watching the seed man get deplatformed in slow motion for years.
The term lawfare feels a bit Too polite for burning someone's media operation at the stake.
It was a little disconcerting to go to the InfoWars website and just see off air on the homepage.
It also shows the limits of the ability of the system to silence dissenting voices.
You can pull the plug on a studio, not the signal.
After all, there's a war on for your mind.
Adam, thank you for leading the charge for Podcasting 2.0.
Decentralization is the only way to go.
And the only way to go for good coffee.
It is to visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.
And he wants a dealer's choice Alex Jones jingle.
I don't know if we have.
Here's one.
That's when I declared a jihad on that ass.
Let me try.
Get the frogs or gay out.
Oh, the frogs.
Okay.
Frogs.
Frogs.
Gay.
A classic, of course.
I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay.
Oh, classic, classic, classic, classic.
Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado, 200.
Jobs Karma.
Your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression, and most don't.
For a resume that gets results, go to ImagerMakersInc.com.
Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership, results, and impact.
That's Image Makers Inc. with a K.
And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of Winning Resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got.
And a couple more associate executive producers with $200.
Steve from Hillsborough, Oregon.
And Steve says, Thank you for sparing all of our sanity during the trying times with the COVID hoax.
Keep up the great work as your media deconstruction is second to none.
God bless.
Dame Tony Helfs in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 200 bucks.
She wrote a note.
She's got a birthday.
I think she, yeah.
Did I say she?
I think you said he.
But probably didn't.
This is where you say, you're supposed to say, that word never left my lips.
That word never left my mouth.
Dear John and Adam, first off, I want to say how happy I am that John's recovering so well.
I was very concerned when he had his heart attack and subsequent surgery and very distressed hearing about his anesthesia problems.
I'm no doctor, but I'm fairly certain you are not supposed to be awake.
Yeah, that's what they tell me.
No kidding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Personally, I would be having.
Having trauma flashbacks for, oh, for sure.
Second, I noticed that in episode 1860, there were no donations in the $100 range.
This is very concerning to me.
I know money is tight right now, but maybe people don't realize that this is not a charity and that you guys are doing.
Income tax returns are in, so share your good fortune, yes, you should, with the best podcast in the universe.
Thank you for that, Dame Tony.
Finally, it's my birthday on May 5th.
Everybody's birthday is on May 5th.
So here's a birthday donation gift for you.
Happy birthday to me.
No jingles or karma.
Thank you for your courage.
God bless you both.
Dame Tony Helfs.
Thank you, Tony.
Appreciate that.
And thank you to all of these executive and associate executive producers of episode 1865.
A reminder how it works.
If you can support us with $200 or above, between $200 and $300, not only will we guarantee.
Read your note, but you will also receive an associate executive producership credit, which is good.
Anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com, $300 or above, and that gives you an executive producer credit.
And of course, we'll read your note as well.
We appreciate what you are doing.
We appreciate that you are supporting us in such big numbers.
We could always use more, but we say congratulations to these executive and associate executive producers.
Our formula is this we go out, we hit people in the mouth.
And here's the rest of our producers, $50 and above, never below 50 for reasons of anonymity.
We see you, 49.99s and lower numbers.
We see you all, and we appreciate all of you.
Baron Ladakin, Houston, Texas, speaking of the hundreds, there he is, the only $100 donor today.
Jason Shepard, Trinidad, Colorado, $80.76.
There's Mr. Boob, Kevin McLaughlin, he is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and Boobs from Concord, North Carolina, and he says, God bless America and boobs with $80.08.
Sir Sigma, Shoreline, Washington, $76.50.
Birthday donation for his dad, Sir Ross of the Broken Ladder Ranch from Sir Sigma.
Is that the Broken Ladder Ranch?
Let me just expand this for a second.
The Broken Ladder Ranch.
Dame Rita.
Ah, good to see Dame Rita in from Sparks, Nevada, $68.33.
Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California, $66.40.
Small boobs from Les Tarkovsky in Kingman, Arizona, that is $60.06.
Zadok Brown III, Pukalani, Pukalani, Hawaii.
Connections, protection, he says.
Donate, $59.
Thank you.
Eric Fleenor in Palmyra, Michigan.
Did I say it right?
Yes, Michigan.
$55.55.
Anyone's house karma for everyone else?
Okay.
Double nickels on the dime, $55.10 from Brian Furley.
Troy Funderberg in Missoula, Montana, $55.
Dame Nancy of the Confused in San Bruno, California, $52.44.
And she says, donations help to discourage exit strategy conversations.
Keep your favorite podcasters happy.
Donate.
Love Dame Nancy of the Confused.
Daniel LeBoy, Bath, Michigan, no stranger to the 50s, and these are the 50s, along with James Sharametta, Napinok, New York.
Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, North New Hampshire.
Leslie Walker, Roseburg, Oregon.
Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California.
Rounds out our 50s.
And that's it.
Short list today.
We definitely could use more.
You did receive your tax returns.
And remember to put us in your will.
It's always a good thing.
People do it for NPR.
Why not for us?
Go to noagendadonations.com if you'd like to support the show.
If you got value out of this, that's how it works.
Any value you got, all you have to do is just send it back.
You make up your own number.
If you want to do more than once, you can do a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency works.
We appreciate it all.
Noagendadonations.com.
Jim in Dallas celebrated his birthday on April 26th at D. Mackey.
Hey, D., how are you doing celebrating tomorrow?
And Theodorable on the 5th.
How old will Theodorable be?
Will he be 12 now?
Is he driving yet?
John's taking a dump.
Dame Tony House also celebrating on May 5th.
And Sir Sigma.
Says happy birthday to his dad, Sir Ross of the Broken Ladder Ranch.
Happy birthday from all of us here at the best podcast in the universe.
And then we have not one, but we have two Orders of the Heart.
Behold the Order of the Heart, pure of purpose, right from the start, in the morning, brave and smart.
The Order of the Heart.
Yes, these are limited time, very limited edition pins.
Come with your $1,000 donation along with your knighthood if you're not already a knight.
And today that goes to Jason Peterson and Jim Indallas.
Both of you, Red Knights in the Order of the Hearts.
Behold the Order of the Hearts, pure of purpose, right from the start in the morning, brave and smart.
The Order of the Hearts.
And before we grab our knight, we did have one karma request.
How selling karma for everybody?
Ventoy USB Bootable Meetup Tips00:09:23
You've got.
Karma.
And an F Cancer for Clayton Swim.
You've got karma.
And then we have the one night.
So let me get my blade here.
Are you back?
Are you back?
You've muted yourself.
That's what happened.
You've muted yourself against me.
I'm right here.
Okay.
Where's your sword?
Hold on a second.
Okay.
It's a little one.
A teeny one.
Jason Peterson, hop on up, sir.
You are about to become not just a knight, but a red knight, and you've already had supported the show in many amounts of thousands of dollars, for which we are eternally grateful.
But hereby I'm proud to browse the cave, the red knight, Commodore Jason.
Welcome to the roundtable, sir.
You were already a Commodore.
And for you, just for you, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
Along with that, we got some Redheads and Rives.
We got Beers and Blunts.
We got Ruben S. Lumen and Rose.
Geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablo, and ho ho, mutton and mead.
That's right.
It's here for you at the Round Table, and you, sir, should go to noagenderrings.com.
Let us know what size ring you have, and we'll take care of you, along with your beautiful Red Knight Order of the Heart Pin, which will be coming to you.
And of course, along with your Signet ring, which is in our knight rings are all Signet rings, our Dame rings as well.
You get a certificate of authenticity and several sticks of wax to seal your important correspondence.
Welcome to the Round Table.
Red Knight Commodore Jason.
No agenda meetups.
Well, pretty soon we can expect a meetup in hell in California, as we heard earlier from our associate executive producer.
And it's very easy to do because all you have to do is go to noagendameetups.com.
You just start one and then you just let everybody know about it.
And once it's on the calendar at noagendameetups.com, I'll mention it.
We'll continue to promote it.
You can do all kinds of things to promote it.
And people will show up.
They usually do.
I'm a little disappointed.
Christopher Wechselberger, he did the Leipzig, Germany meetup.
He said it was a good meetup, but he didn't record a report.
He sent a written report, which is, I wanted to hear some German voices.
I wanted to hear your server.
I will read his very short report.
I call it a success.
We were three dudes having a good time, even though neither hookers nor blow were involved.
I would like to thank Dirk and Thilo for stopping by.
We decided to gather again in the near future.
So keep an eye out for the next Leipzig meetup announcement.
Keep up the great work, says Christopher.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate that you did that.
Next time, just get your phone out, just record it.
I'll cut it up.
Don't worry about it.
We have a meetup taking place today.
It is, in fact, well underway the TMI EVAC Zone Win, Lose, or Drone meetup at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
So I hope to hear a meetup report from that.
And coming up, On the 8th of May, Buta, Texas, Leiden, the Netherlands.
On the 9th, Eagle, Idaho, Santa Rosa, California, and Nashville, Tennessee.
The 13th, Unionville, in Ontario.
Raleigh, North Carolina.
The 14th, the 16th, we have Fort Wayne, Indiana, Coleyville, Texas, Los Banos, California, and Wilmington, Delaware, along with Fort Wayne, Indiana, two in Indiana.
May 23rd, Los Angeles, California, another Leo Bravo meetup, I'm sure.
Hickson, Tennessee, on the 23rd, and Franklin, Tennessee.
And the 25th, a Squim, Washington.
Mimi will be attending, so bring your too many eggs.com books and she will gladly sign them for you.
She'll probably have some along with her for sale.
You can buy them on the spot.
These are the No Agenda Meetups.
This is where connection brings you protection because the people you meet at a meetup will be your first responders in any emergency, guaranteed.
They're the people that keep you stable, who will keep you able.
Go to NoagendaMeetups.com, find one near you, can search many different ways.
And if you can't, or if we just feel like it, even if there's one in the air, you can always set up.
Another one.
Go ahead, noagendameetups.com.
Set up one yourself.
It's easy and always guaranteed a party.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be triggered on hell's blame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
And we have John's tip of the day coming up, along with three dynamite end of show mixes.
You will love that.
Before we do anything, though, we need to.
Select our end of show ISO.
We've kind of forgotten why we do it, but it is kind of fun because we get to select odd things that are short and we'll play at the very end of the show.
It's a three for three today.
So I'll go first because you always think you have something better than me.
I went to the well for this one.
It's really incredible.
Easy, obviously.
We have this one.
Props to them.
And that's it.
That's no good.
That's actually pretty good.
Yeah.
What do you have?
I got three.
Okay.
Let's start with crazy.
Crazy.
These are crazy people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These are crazy people.
It's all right.
I could use it in a pinch.
Amazing.
Another great show.
Amazing.
I have to stop it there because there's like seven seconds left.
So you didn't cut that one right.
We can use that one.
I'm fine with that.
Let me hear it again.
Let me hear it again.
She doesn't sound very amazed, but okay.
No, okay.
Boobs.
If you like boobs, donate to No Agenda.
Okay.
That's clearly the one.
And again, there's like 16 seconds left.
I don't understand why I'm screwing this up.
You are screwing it up, but you can make up for it with another dynamite tip of the day.
If anybody has any tip of the day ideas, just send them with the subject line tip of the day, which is exactly what Commodore Sir Mech did.
With this pretty good tip, I checked it out.
It's a software product called Ventoy.
I've seen these things before and I've used them.
This one here seems to be pretty damn good.
Ventoy?
How do you spell Ventoy?
V E N T O Y.
Okay.
Ventoy.net.
This allows you to create bootable USBs.
Oh.
Which can come in quite handy if you're on the road and you just take your whole system and make a bootable USB, stick it in someone's computer, and blow it up.
Change the boot order, and boom, you've got your whole system booting from the USB drive.
It just works well.
Huh.
So, what's wrong with just taking your computer?
What if you got a big giant desktop piece of.
In my case, I could do that because of hauling around these nucks, these little bitty things.
But no, you don't want to.
Or you say you have a work office, you want to do it, you have a home office and an office computer, and it's a big clunker and it's a company thing, it's not a laptop.
Yeah, there's plenty of reasons that you want a bootable USB.
Or we say you got a secret system.
You got a bunch of stuff you don't want people looking at.
Well, I'll be honest.
I always have a bootable USB of Omarchi Linux.
I carry that with me just in case I need to set up a whole new show.
Like a whole new show system.
Yeah.
But that would be pretty much really the end, the end of everything if I had to resort to that.
That'd be pretty bad.
Yeah, well, anyway, it uses just an ISO file, create an ISO file, drop it on here, and it all works well.
All right, well, please, everybody who's going to do that, raise your hand without talking.
Find them all at tipoftheday.net, noagenderfun.com.
I got more pleasure out of your Bordeaux Blanche.
I have another wine tip coming next show.
Okay, good.
And that concludes your broadcast day for today.
Coming up next on the No Agenda stream, we have our big dumb mouth, OBDM.
And oh, they're going to be talking about the InfoWars shutdown, AI consciousness, and Area 51 quakes.
A second half of show if I've ever seen one, ever seen one before.
So that'll be next on the No Agenda stream.
If you just keep listening to your modern podcast app, it will be the same.
Agenda Truth Sunday Edition Broadcast00:02:29
And end of show mixes from Juss Baker, who is just kicking butt.
With the Sunos, Chris Mattson, an MVP, of course, bringing you the latest in anything promptable.
I think they're pretty good.
And we will be back on Thursday.
I will be coming to you from Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
Looking forward to.
Risky.
Yeah, very risky.
Coming to you from the airport hotel, the one that had their logo just catch on fire.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com, please.
Until Thursday.
Adios, mofos, ahooey hooey, and such.
It's showtime!
Spirit Airlines grounded.
No more budget wings.
Passenger stranded.
Thanks to the oil kings.
Mayday in the streets.
They're marching for the cause.
Tariffs on EU cars.
Trump's rewriting all the laws.
No agenda.
No agenda.
We see right through the agenda.
Gas, pain, play, strain, hormones in the way.
Follow the money, it's the now agenda.
Sunday edition.
No agenda.
Just the truth, baby.
Well, who do we have here?
John C. Daboo Rack?
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John C.
Yeah, John C. What about the bypass?
He doesn't need it.
We'll just put this mouse in there and call it good.
Sponges on the right.
The anesthesia didn't take.
I'm watching my own ribcage open.
Practice CREW.
You can hear it all.
I was awake during my open heart.
Sing at the ceiling like you died and you're not dead yet, said John C.