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	I call bogus.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, March 27th, 2025.
	This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1750.
	This is No Agenda.
	Fat-fingered and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region 6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where everybody has to resign.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	It's days like this when the job is just tough.
	Because there's just nothing else in the world that's happening.
	There's nothing happening.
	It's all signal gate.
	I know you feel the same.
	You're like, oh, well, there goes the material.
	Well, I found some stuff outside of signal gate.
	Oh, me too.
	Because the car tariffs, that's the other big news.
	Oh, no, but that's not news.
	We don't want to talk about that.
	And then this morning, the MS-13 guy, some guy, some 25-year-old guy was arrested.
	Well, I'm glad you mentioned it.
	Here we go.
	Here's Pam Bondage.
	Good morning.
	Thank you for being here.
	You're welcome.
	Did you see Kash Patel in this?
	They're all there.
	But did you see what he had on his FBI flight jacket?
	I thought that was camo.
	No, it wasn't camo.
	No, that's his, like, outdoor arresting people jacket.
	He got the hat on.
	He's got his sneakers on.
	Yeah, Cash, Cash.
	We have been out since about 4.30 this morning.
	Hold on, let's stop for a second.
	Yeah, really.
	Why is she even there?
	Well, they all report to her.
	She's there?
	Cash, they're all there.
	It's like...
	Well, they were all out at 4 a.m. this morning, and then they had donuts.
	I'm like, come on, let's go announce this thing.
	Alright. Everyone dressed right?
	It just seemed to be showboating if you ask me.
	You think?
	This was a please pay no attention to signal gate.
	We got an MS-13 guy.
	Oh yeah, totally.
	The great men and women of law enforcement have been working on this operation for days and days and probably weeks.
	You don't know?
	You don't know?
	Probably weeks?
	Do they report to you?
	You'd think she'd have the exact date when they started?
	Yeah, we started this on this date and we got...
	I guess not.
	This morning, early this morning, one of the top leaders...
	I love this.
	The top leaders.
	The tippy top.
	All the way at the top of the pyramid.
	Top leader.
	Top leaders of MS-13 was apprehended.
	He was the leader for the East Coast, one of the top three in the entire country.
	Right here in Virginia, living half an hour outside of Washington, D.C. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador, and he will not be living in our country much longer.
	He's in custody this morning.
	One of the top leaders right here...
	Near our nation's capital.
	Right there.
	He was right there.
	One of the top guys.
	Hey, listen.
	The biggest criminals live in Washington, okay?
	They don't live in Virginia.
	But good job.
	Good job, everybody.
	Just let me do the...
	I have a couple signal gate things just to...
	Do you have the super clip?
	I have a super clip, yeah.
	I don't know which one you're talking about.
	That's the one with all the Democrats going, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to the country since 9-11.
	No, no, I don't have that one.
	No. Because I was looking for super cuts, not super clip.
	Super cuts, a haircut.
	No, I actually thought it would be fun to do a different version of super cut, which, yeah, we're doing something different.
	It's upside down day here on the No Agenda Show, people.
	They've made a big deal out of this because we've had two perfect months.
	The main thing was nothing happened.
	The attack was totally successful.
	In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information.
	I always say you have to learn from every experience.
	Hillary's private email scandal, which put our classified information in the reach of our enemies, disqualifies her.
	From the presidency.
	This journalist, Mr. President, wants the world talking about more hoaxes and this kind of nonsense rather than the freedom that you're enabling.
	The president's national security advisor sent top secret emails on an unsecured server that we know our enemies were trying to access.
	He was sending back and forth freewheeling and yet we see nothing there.
	My communications, to be clear, in a signal message group were entirely permissible.
	And lawful and did not include classified information.
	This was a huge mistake, correct?
	No. Mishandling classified information is still a violation of the Espionage Act.
	It started with Hillary Clinton.
	It has continued without accountability.
	Nobody was texting war plans, and that's all I have to say about that.
	If there was anyone other than Hillary Clinton, they would be in jail right now.
	When you take something out of a skiff, if you're a senator, you know exactly what you're doing.
	So I found that supercut.
	I thought that was rather entertaining.
	Yeah. But more fun was a trend we have noticed recently amongst Democrats, affectionately called the delusional Dems, and it's the cussing.
	And so here they have an opportunity.
	They have an opportunity to have the upper hand on everything.
	I mean, politics, truth doesn't matter.
	It's just whatever is on X and whatever is being replayed by the media.
	But they cannot help themselves.
	Here's Adam Schiff.
	So tonight I want to talk about SignalGate and what a colossal fuck-up this is in terms of our national security.
	Why? He does a six-minute video, but that's how he starts it off.
	That's not good.
	And then...
	Even Van Jones, I don't know if you have the clip of that.
	Yeah, I have that.
	I have that.
	First, you're jumping the gun.
	I always do that.
	You're jumping the gun in the sequence.
	I want to go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that means quiet.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Mayor Pete, lovable, adorable little Mayor Pete throws a couple bombs.
	Oh, no.
	With his breastfeeding thing on him.
	It does not.
	I try not to jump in with a tape.
	By the way, we should start our show.
	Hey, it's Pete.
	I mean, what does he think he is?
	Madonna? Hey, it's Pete.
	Hey, it's Pete.
	I try not to jump in with a take on everything or comment on everything we see in the news of the day, but what we learned about today is truly incredible.
	The U.S. Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, the Vice President of the United States, and other very senior, very powerful Trump White House officials, it turns out,
	discussed It's not done yet.
	This kind of intelligence failure calls the question on whether there is any place for merit or competence in this administration at all.
	Because if there are not highly serious consequences for this Why? Cannot keep the American people safe.
	All right, here's the Van Jones remark.
	I think that this party is scrambling, trying to seem tough.
	And I'm seeing this party traffic in a lot of curse words.
	That's supposed to be the new cool thing to do.
	I don't think that that's going to be as useful.
	I even heard Pete Buttigieg with a whole bunch of curse words.
	I don't know who gave that memo.
	I don't think that's very useful.
	Ah, so it was a memo.
	Clearly there was a memo that went out.
	Van is questioning who gave out the memo.
	Is that another Chuck Schumer thing, do you think?
	Yeah, that's all talk tough.
	I think this is organic.
	I think it stems from the powers of the president.
	I've said this before, that the president sets the moral tone of the country, and it's always been the case.
	It's sort of the first thing they teach in college poli-sci classes.
	So the president gave the go-ahead because he says bullshit all the time.
	Yeah, but not the F word.
	I haven't heard of him F-bomb.
	No, I think he has, but I don't think it's...
	It doesn't...
	The way they...
	The main...
	People that do this, of course, are the screaming memes that are on the...
	Memes? Screaming memes?
	What kind of...
	Screaming memes.
	What kind of backhanded slap is that?
	It's your own spouse.
	This is what they're called.
	The screaming memes.
	I've never heard of...
	It's a great band name, but I've never heard of the screaming memes.
	Screaming memes are the people that are on the TikTok and they're screaming and yelling and cussing.
	Screaming memes.
	And they're the ones who really set the stage for this, it seems to me.
	And now that the fact that the politicians are starting to cuss...
	This is really...
	And they're the ones who bitched and moaned about coarseness.
	Oh, coarse.
	Oh, Trump is bad because he's so coarse.
	If you're going to do that, if you're going to set up yourself by complaining about coarseness and then you start cussing, this is not...
	Again, this is not a good look.
	I do have a couple of insightful clips about this because we're not going to do what everybody else is doing.
	You know, I heard...
	I was listening to DH Unplugged every Tuesday.
	They do it live at 8 o'clock.
	We do.
	It's also a podcast.
	Yes, it is John C. Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz.
	And Horowitz is saying, why does the news always do five stories?
	They do five stories all day long, five stories.
	And you backed him up by saying, that's what Fox does.
	Every single Fox show, five stories, five stories.
	And the reason for that is you play the hits, man, when you're in a linear time format.
	People aren't watching all day.
	You want them to tune in and get the top five stories.
	That's what that's about.
	Play the hits.
	You can't go wrong by playing Madonna.
	Yeah, that's probably the only thing.
	I remember when I was at Tech TV and we had an old pro that was running, one of the guys that was one of the main producers of the whole operation, he said, and you get a story that's hot.
	You just milk it.
	Yeah. It's all you do all day is just go on this story and it's all you play.
	Just yak, yak, yak about the one thing.
	I mean, we shy away from that on this show because I think people are sick of it.
	Yeah, who needs that?
	I mean, people always want to hear our opinions.
	But we still talk about this stuff.
	Well, yeah, but we have opinions.
	Well, we also have perspective.
	We have a different look at these things.
	We are awesome.
	That's what we're talking about.
	Here's a backgrounder.
	It was the screenshot the world was waiting for.
	After members of the now infamous Hootie PC small group lined up on Tuesday to insist no classified information was shared on the signal chat, the Atlantic magazine dropped the so-called war plan Pete Hegseth sent to senior intelligence officials and a journalist from the Atlantic that readers might judge for themselves.
	12.15.
	Estimated time.
	F-18's launch.
	First strike package.
	1345 trigger-based.
	F-18 first strike window starts.
	Target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time.
	Also, strike drones launch MQ-9s.
	After the initial strike, the target is identified on Signal as the Houthi's, quote, top missile guy.
	Members of the Signal thread are now saying the Atlantic magazine's editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, oversold the extent of the breach.
	Among them, the Pentagon chief himself.
	Nobody's texting war plans.
	There's no units.
	No locations, no routes, no flight paths, no sources, no methods, no classified information.
	This after Goldberg's original article said the plan included precise information about targets.
	But in the hands of foreign intelligence, the messages sent two hours before zero hour would have been an ample tip-off to Houthi Command of an impending attack.
	You're right about the president setting the tone, because not a single person can just say, yeah, that was dumb.
	They don't seem capable of that.
	Like, yeah, well, we were in a hurry.
	We're doing this.
	You know, it's an approved thing.
	We just threw together a group.
	And that was bad.
	This is the era of no apologies.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Sorry about that vax.
	No one is going to apologize for everything.
	And President Trump, he's so smart.
	The vax is still on the market.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	I mean, get your eighth booster.
	Get your eighth booster.
	It wasn't interesting because, you know, this journalist is interesting for a number of reasons.
	And then we can talk about what we think happened briefly.
	Matt Taibbi was on Newsmax.
	Newsmax. He's a top, top guy on Newsmax as a guest.
	And here's what he had to say about the Atlantic journalist Jeffrey Goldberg.
	What exactly is Jeffrey Goldberg in your mind?
	What do you think of this guy?
	Look, a lot of journalists, when Jeffrey Goldberg's name comes up, we all kind of look at each other with a big news glance.
	This is somebody who has a reputation for getting things massively wrong and somehow being promoted anyway.
	He was infamous.
	Yeah, that was the great terror article in the New Yorker in 2002.
	Yeah, he's the one who promoted the suckers and losers story.
	John Kelly commentary.
	He also did two or three other of these things.
	He's a spook.
	There's got to be something like that.
	I mean, I'm not looking at his wiki page so I can do a spot to spook analysis, but there's something fishy about, first of all, why is he the guy that ended up on this thing?
	The second thing was is that the Walls, the National Security Advisor says when he went to CIA, I guess, the first thing they gave him was a secure phone.
	It had a signal on it.
	And then he talked to some CIA guys.
	He talked about this in the testimony.
	And they had a communication.
	Somebody there says, oh, no, don't worry about this.
	Everyone's got this.
	You know, just use it.
	It's fine.
	And then all of a sudden, just Jeffrey Goldberg guy gets on the call.
	How did that happen?
	And, of course, nobody can figure out how that happened.
	And maybe they will.
	Maybe they won't.
	This whole thing is a setup.
	Goldberg dropped out of college and worked for a time at the Washington Post, because that's where all college dropouts go.
	Did you drop out of college?
	You're hired, son.
	Come on in.
	Would he get hired by Woodward?
	He then moved to Israel and served in the Israeli Defense Forces during the First Intifada.
	He was a prison guard.
	There he...
	Let me see.
	You on his wiki page?
	Yeah, I am.
	Oh, I can't be trusted.
	Dual Israeli citizen.
	It's one of those guys.
	Can't trust him.
	Well, the...
	Is there any other spot to spook indicators?
	I don't really see anything.
	Well, that's actually good.
	I mean, it may actually be a real one.
	A real one?
	A real one, yes.
	As opposed to one that's just kind of, you know, sloppy.
	Well... Because the fact that he's the guy of all the people that ended up on this call, why him?
	Well, you know, sometimes, just Occam's razor, sometimes things just happen.
	Yeah, but this sort of thing is anything but Occam's razor.
	This is like the opposite.
	It's so out there.
	Not really.
	I mean, if you're adding, because the whole signal text thread...
	It was about adding people to the mix.
	Yeah, but you have to have, first you have to have the number in your book.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I mean, you have lots of people's numbers in your book you wouldn't add to a text chat with me.
	I'm sorry, you have an actual book.
	What am I thinking?
	You don't have it in your phone.
	Actually, I do have the Google, I do have a large address book on Google and they will move it to my phone.
	Every time I get a new Android.
	You've gotten a new one?
	Well, it's not new, but every time you get a different phone, I have different phones over time that end up in the same drawer, but when you boot it, they demand that you log in somehow.
	You've got to log your old account in, and once you do that, then they throw a bunch of crap on your phone.
	But they're throwing stuff on...
	I have phone numbers for people that I don't even know, and so it's possible.
	But again, somehow that number got on that phone, Walls' phone, somehow.
	No, I'm pretty sure they know each other.
	They know each other.
	Walls claims that he doesn't know him.
	I don't buy that.
	I'm not buying that.
	I like what Sir Grantilius of the Great Plains said.
	Walls was working for the Department of Defense as an advisor to Cheney in the Bush days.
	Goldberg was publishing work actively supporting the invasion of Iraq.
	That's your WMD.
	The Cheney gang despises Trump.
	Could Goldberg have been invited on purpose?
	That's what he says.
	That's reasonable.
	That's reasonable.
	There's a lot of reasonable things that you can surmise.
	I think if it's targeted, it's targeted against Hegseth.
	Who has the capability?
	First of all, Well, they really hate Hegseth.
	Yes. And Hegseth has responded very poorly.
	He's not good at this.
	No. You'd think he'd be better because he's media savvy.
	He's so defensive and blah, blah.
	Nope, nope, this is not this bullcrap.
	That guy's no good.
	No, Hegseth plays too much of a tough character.
	Yeah. He's a tough guy.
	They push him into this position where he's got to be kind of assertive.
	And he doesn't have experience in a large bureaucracy, so he's a little sensitive about that.
	And so he's in a position where he can get shook.
	And so far, you know, I think Trump likes him.
	I think he probably could do the job, but they're going to try to shake him out of there.
	I think he has to go.
	Out of all this, they're not going to stop.
	And if this was a targeted thing, then it was to make Hegseth look bad.
	Because it was Hegseth who's sitting there going like, we got the Reaper drones!
	We're going to kill this guy!
	And the thing that's kind of sick about it all is the Jubilee.
	And like, yay!
	American flag emoji!
	Punching fist emoji!
	Fire emoji!
	We killed him!
	Yeah, that was a mistake.
	Of course, but that's how these people are.
	It's probably how most people are.
	Yeah, we're number one foam finger.
	Yeah, it's always a little jar.
	I mean, to me, that was the jarring thing.
	I mean, not that this was...
	And clearly, the timing of this and how much time there was before the Reaper drones and whatever else they were planning, clearly that would have been enough to alert people.
	Here's my question, though.
	This is the part I don't understand, and this is where it smells of a setup.
	If this is you or I, and we get added to some awesome text group, and on this text group it's podcasters.
	It's Megyn Kelly.
	It's Dan Bongino.
	Oh no, he's no longer a podcaster.
	It's Tucker Carlson.
	They have like this top, top, top podcasters group.
	I would not be removing myself.
	This was brought up on Gutfeld by one of the contestants.
	Who does that?
	I forgot who it was, but one of them said, why would you out yourself if you're going to end up on these groups?
	Because you could, as a journalist in particular, because you're like the fly on the wall.
	Yes. Why wouldn't you want to continue to be the fly on the wall as long as you can and you just build up and build up?
	Do you remember?
	Well, you still have one.
	Back in the landline days, if you called someone on a landline, you know the thing that's on the wall, and the other person didn't...
	No, how did it work?
	It was like, there was a thing where you could keep listening.
	I mean, if the other person doesn't hang up, there was something where this happened regularly.
	There was some situations where...
	Well, first of all, when I was in France for the first time...
	In 1973.
	Getting your hair cut by Pierre.
	Yes. That's when you had to always go to the postal office to make calls.
	It was very strange to do an overseas call.
	You had to go to the post office.
	It was a postal telephone post office.
	Yes, PTT.
	But the phones, people did have a phone in their house.
	When you hung up, it didn't hang up anything.
	Yes. So you could stay on the line, and when the other person hung up, you'd hear the click, but the phone was still live for a good five minutes.
	This is what I'm talking about.
	I remember this.
	There was something like that that went on in this country, too, but it wasn't quite the same mechanism.
	It was something else.
	No, I think I remember it from the other ones.
	I remember it, too, because I remember people hanging up, and now you can still hear it.
	Yeah. Yeah, and what you did was, you didn't hang up and say, oh, I hope I don't hear anything I shouldn't be hearing.
	No! You're listening.
	Well, that's like being on the party line.
	Yeah. Yes.
	Which, when I was a real little kid, and I was on the party line all the time, and I've talked about this on the show before, and I got caught a couple of times by the girl.
	She'd be talking to her boyfriend.
	I'm listening in.
	These two cooing over each other, and she caught me somehow.
	Here's a modern-day example.
	Let's move it out of boomer land.
	Butt dial.
	When someone butt dials you, Yeah, same thing.
	You don't hang up and go, oh, butt dial, no!
	Let me hear what they say.
	You listen for at least a little while, but obviously you're not going to hear anything because you can tell by the nature of the butt dial because you can't hear it.
	You just hear rustling.
	Then you hang up.
	But otherwise, yeah, you listen a little bit if you can hear anything.
	But if you don't hear anything, you don't listen.
	So it doesn't make sense that this guy outed himself like this.
	Would remove himself.
	And he's got...
	And his story was a nothing burger.
	Oh! You used nothing burger.
	And you heard it.
	Basically, there wasn't really anything.
	It just was there to humiliate Hank Seth.
	Yeah. And Walls, to a lesser extent.
	Well, Walls is under attack.
	So people are now combing through Waltz, and they find out...
	That his official X account, he's following a gay porn star.
	Known as Big Dick Bottom.
	A black guy.
	A black guy.
	Really? Yeah.
	I didn't catch that.
	And then he unfollowed him quick.
	Yeah, I would imagine.
	Sorry, not porn star.
	An adult content creator.
	I'm sorry.
	And by the way, I will say this.
	So that could be planted.
	Oh, yeah.
	Easy. Hey, let me see your phone for a sec.
	You know, who do I know that does that?
	Who did things?
	Yes, John C. Dvorak.
	Give me your phone for a second.
	And you boop, boop, boop, boop, switch it to Korean.
	And it would be impossible to find your way back to turn off the Korean...
	Yeah, you have to do a lot of research to figure out how to do it.
	That's a great gag.
	Come on, people.
	It's a horrible gag.
	It's just horrible.
	So, yeah, my feeling is this is the first major chink in the Hegseth armor.
	And that was the intent.
	Also, it was...
	From the account from Goldberg, it was Waltz who added him to...
	Now, Signal doesn't send out invitations, as far as I know.
	I was surprised, just as an aside, that Signal is an approved encrypted messaging app for the U.S. government.
	Do you know that the chairman of the Signal board is a foundation that runs...
	The woman, she is the head of NPR.
	No, she's gone, but didn't the woman from Blue Cry also come for the show?
	No, the woman from NPR still runs it.
	Here, here's the clip.
	They talk about it.
	I have a couple of her clips.
	No, I have the disclaimer.
	Okay. Wow.
	Yeah, wow is right.
	You sure you have it?
	I know I have it.
	I just don't know what it's called.
	Breach Story Weird NPR?
	Should we try that one?
	What is it?
	Breach Story Weird NPR.
	Oh yeah, that could be it.
	The fallout continues from the revelation senior Trump administration officials somehow added a journalist to a signal group chat in which they discussed secret plans for military strikes in Yemen.
	At a White House hearing today, Democrats disputed the administration's claims.
	The information wasn't classified and called for people to be held accountable.
	Here's NPR's Ryan Lucas.
	Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee pushed Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe for answers, particularly after the full group chat chain was made public by The Atlantic.
	It showed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth texting details on timing, weapons and attack sequencing of the U.S. airstrikes in Yemen.
	Here's Colorado Democrat Jason Crowe.
	Nobody is willing to come to us and say this was wrong.
	This was a breach of security and we won't do it again.
	Crowe, who is a former U.S. Army Ranger, said the refusal to accept responsibility is outrageous and a leadership failure, and he called on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to resign.
	Ryan Lucas, NPR News, Washington.
	NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the app.
	That's not the lady who was in Congress, though.
	Yeah. No.
	Her name is...
	I don't think that's her name.
	No, there were two ladies in Congress.
	Hold on a second.
	NPR News, Washington.
	NPR CEO Catherine Marr chairs the board of the Signal Foundation.
	Yeah, Marr, whatever her name is.
	The other lady, Catherine...
	Catherine, that's her, March or March or something.
	No, no, there are two ladies from NPR called Catherine Marr.
	Marr. Did he say Marr?
	Yeah, I think it's...
	Let me listen again.
	Did he say Marr?
	Washington. NPR CEO Catherine Marr chairs the board of the signals.
	Oh, Marr.
	Okay. Oh, interesting.
	Well, what is she doing that for?
	Well, that makes it all very suspicious.
	I thought it was very suspicious first time I heard that.
	And that's one of the few times that they actually ran the disclaimer.
	You're going to grill me in Congress?
	Watch this.
	Can I play a couple of those clips?
	I thought those were kind of interesting.
	I would like you to play them.
	I didn't get any of those clips.
	I love those clips.
	The thing is, they don't have...
	It was funny to listen to...
	I will say this.
	I was almost going to take this, but then I was thinking, well, one too many Jesse Waters analysis is not good for the show.
	Oh, do you have more today?
	I have none.
	Oh, good.
	But Jesse Waters has some of the best of the clips, and then when you played him up against the long version, longer...
	Longer exposition on PBS NewsHour, there was no comparison.
	The water stuff was far superior.
	Well, I focused really on one thing, and that's the money, because that's what it was about.
	It was about, do we...
	Do we continue to fund the national public radio?
	Where does the money go?
	And the kicker is, oh, well, the government doesn't really have, only gives maybe 1% of the total.
	Doesn't mean a lot.
	And oh, who cares?
	But we need this money.
	Okay, I guess I don't need to play the clips.
	You did it again.
	What? You went straight to the kicker.
	Well, you set me up for it.
	You've got to do a better job of blocking me.
	I'm going to play Catherine Marr.
	Be quiet.
	I understand the subcommittee has questions about funding for NPR and public radio.
	The vast majority of federal dollars, more than $100 million of the $121 million annual appropriation for public radio, goes directly to 386 local, non-commercial stations across the nation.
	This highly efficient investment enables your local stations to raise an average of $7.
	What? Of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, NPR received federal funding of $11.2 million last year.
	These funds allow us to maintain the national public radio satellite system, helping safeguard our national security, civil defense, and disaster response, and enabling public radio to reach every corner of America.
	Additionally, these funds help protect journalists covering our troops overseas and reverse the decline of local journalism.
	So, people don't really understand how NPR works.
	They're all independent stations.
	They have to do their own fundraising.
	The problem is, they basically can't create much of their own local content.
	I mean, even KUT in Austin, remember when we had Snowpocalypse, they were playing Fresh Air with Terry Gross.
	They have to buy the programming.
	And that's where a lot of the money goes because it's commercial companies making the majority of this content.
	It's not like, you know, like government employees.
	All of this comes through the PRX, the public radio exchanges, you know, the public, what is it, the public media, I forget the name of the group.
	So really the only thing that makes it a network is explained here.
	I'd like to spend the rest of my time talking about funding.
	This is Jack, Representative Jack from Georgia.
	I know that some of my colleagues talked about it a little bit today, but could you walk us through the amount of money that NPR receives from CPB?
	Yes, sure, sir.
	We received $11.2 million this past year, the majority of which goes to the public radio satellite system, which we operate on behalf of the entire public radio network.
	We also received a smaller amount of funds.
	Let's just stop there.
	The PRSS, the public radio satellite system, is an anachronism.
	This thing should immediately be shot out of the sky.
	You know, I think there's still one show that broadcasts live, the morning edition, maybe all things considered, is a live stream from the satellite, which, of course, we could do much cheaper with a Starlink dish.
	That would work in case of an emergency.
	But you could still do it.
	I mean, we've had T1 lines for a long time.
	And what all these...
	It's a very expensive, very antiquated system where they...
	In essence, download WAV files of programming.
	That's the incredible importance of that $11 million.
	And, of course, Catherine Marr's salary and whatever else they do with that.
	But that thing is absolutely not necessary.
	I don't think any of these people in Congress actually understand what NPR is or how it works.
	We also received a smaller amount of funding in the course of the past year that went to help us hire those additional editors and analysts in order to be able to beef up that editorial review.
	We received funding to support the coverage of the recent election in order to make sure that we had our journalists all across the country and were able to speak to Americans of all different political backgrounds.
	And what percentage of your budget share comes from the federal government?
	Depending on how you count it, sir, it's less than 5%.
	And to help me understand, too, the CPB, as I understand it, Congress has appropriated $500 million to the CPB.
	It flows out, and I think smaller radio stations go and apply for grants for it.
	$500 million for CPB, which includes PBS?
	What else does that include?
	It includes a lot of those little stations who have to give the money back.
	I mean, the whole thing is something of a Ponzi scheme.
	Do you receive payment from smaller radio stations through licensing agreements and things of that nature?
	We do, and the fees for that are designed around the...
	What do you mean designed?
	The fees are designed.
	And of course...
	Jack is only out to get her, to stick it to her like everybody else.
	No follow-up questions on that.
	...
	designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations.
	So the fees are not designed around federal funding.
	How is a fee designed?
	I mean, a fee is a fee.
	So is it...
	Based upon how many people listen?
	Is it based on how much money you raise?
	This makes no sense.
	They get money to keep the stations on the air.
	That's expensive.
	And then the fees are designed somehow?
	Designed. I think what she's trying to say is that the larger markets have to pay more money.
	Yeah. That's pretty common.
	It's like newspaper syndicates.
	If you're a small-town paper with 100,000 circ...
	You're not paying the same amount for the Dilbert cartoon as somebody with $250,000?
	Designed around the amount of funding that they get from private member donations.
	So the fees are not designed around federal funding.
	They're designed around what sort of direct private support and donations they receive from members and listeners.
	Well, they're basing it on, she's saying that they base it on how much they get.
	So, how much did you raise?
	Two million dollars.
	Oh, your fee is...
	I don't think that's right.
	I don't know what she's talking about.
	She's just rambling.
	I mean, I think she'd maybe just be snowing the guy.
	Well, here's the real question, and this came from Jack as well.
	Could NPR survive without the 5% that we give NPR annually?
	My belief is that the funding is essential to the public radio system, and that is the 246 member stations, but the 1,300 stations across the nation, so that we're able, as a network, to serve all Americans with 100% coverage.
	This is a snow job, what she's saying right here.
	There is no substance to what she's saying.
	She's not answering the question.
	Federal funding for our network goes away.
	It means that people in rural parts of America, places where they can't afford to make private donations, She says something very interesting.
	At first, I misheard her.
	But she's saying...
	What I think she's saying here is rich people...
	Who've got a lot of choice won't be able to hear the poor suckers out in the sticks.
	Tell me I'm wrong.
	You better start it over there.
	Bigger harm as well, or the additional harm, is that Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often underheard.
	Isn't that what she's saying?
	You won't hear from the poor people without us.
	That's exactly what she's saying.
	I don't know how...
	What else could that mean?
	So NPR...
	So the rich people are going to suffer.
	Yes. They're going to suffer horribly.
	That's exactly what she's saying.
	If they don't give the little people some money so the little people can speak up because the little people don't have a voice without the government money.
	So you bastards in the government, you better give the little people some money because you're shutting them down.
	Have you ever heard of X or Facebook?
	Little people have a voice these days, lady.
	Americans in places that are affluent or do have many media choices will not be able to hear from their fellow Americans that are often underheard.
	And you're an NPR guy.
	Please make sure that next time you hear some poor people who aren't heard, make sure that if they're ever on NPR, you clip it.
	Because usually I only hear douchebags.
	It's all douchebags.
	Bottom line, if the 5% Went away.
	Would NPR still exist?
	Well, it would be incredibly damaging to the national public radio system.
	Well, this is why I say...
	So in other words, 5% goes to the poor suckers.
	The 5% is going to be incredibly damaging because despite what we do, we can't make up 5%.
	Of that funding.
	We can't find some other way of doing it.
	We can't open up a gates of hell of advertising.
	We can't do anything.
	That 5% is all there is to it.
	That was the question.
	That was the question.
	Something is wrong with that answer.
	So instead, we just hounded her.
	It is fun to listen to this.
	This was the representative Brandon Gill.
	Who did exactly what they're doing to National Security Advisor Waltz.
	Let's comb through your tweets and embarrass you!
	It's interesting, because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your public...
	Hold on, can you stop for a second?
	Yeah. It's John Kennedy, the guy from Louisiana, I think is the guy who perfected this technique in Congress.
	Oh, and he has his own YouTube channels.
	And you don't even know how old it is.
	I mean, it's evergreen, the stuff he does.
	Yeah, he has nothing but showbiz appeal.
	Did you write this tweet?
	Let me just get it straight.
	Is that something you actually wrote?
	And you say, well, I think so.
	Well, you would know.
	I'm reading right from it.
	It goes on and on.
	This guy did a pretty good job.
	It's interesting because a lot of your thinking, as expressed by your public statements, is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism.
	Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
	I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.
	I've evolved as a human being.
	Wait, she said over the last half decade.
	I know, isn't that a great one?
	You mean five years?
	It was only four, actually, to be honest, to look at the number.
	But it was four years ago she wrote that.
	Well, she's good.
	Oh, you know, everything's evolved over the last half decade.
	That's amazing.
	You mean during the Biden administration?
	Earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.
	It has evolved.
	Why did you tweet that?
	I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't be able to say.
	Okay. Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy?
	I don't believe that, sir.
	You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently, The Case for Reparations.
	I don't think I've ever read that book, sir.
	This is my best.
	This is the best one.
	You were reading a book.
	You tweeted about this book.
	I don't think I've read that book, sir.
	I don't think I've read that book in the last half decade.
	You tweeted about it.
	You said you took a day off to fully read The Case for Reparations.
	You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.
	So she's a liar.
	Of course she didn't read the book.
	She didn't read White Fragility either.
	Just virtue signaling.
	I have a couple of clips coming up later in the show that also use this trick.
	When you say half, I'm thinking about this half decade thing.
	The first thing, if you're calculating that in your mind, that's 50 years.
	Because when you think of it, when you say half, half is always at 0.5, so it's 0.5 decade, 10. In your brain, you multiply it.
	In the last half decade, I think subconsciously it sounds like 50 years.
	I think it's a very tricky NLP.
	I think it's an NLP trick.
	It gives you the sense that it's a long time.
	She also slipped in their federal public radio, which I thought was interesting.
	She's good.
	Spook. She may be a spook, but what's her name again?
	Catherine Maher.
	Maher. Maher.
	You took a day off to fully read the case for reparations.
	You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.
	Apologies, I don't recall that I did.
	I have no doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.
	Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races?
	This is great.
	This is your virtue signaling coming back and slapping you in the face like a wet salmon.
	Do people inherently feel superior to other races?
	I do not.
	You tweeted something to that effect.
	You said, I grew up feeling superior.
	How wide of me?
	Why did you tweet that?
	I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to be...
	To grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.
	So that's a racist statement right there.
	Because you were white, that means that you had lots of advantages?
	What about those poor schlubs who need 5% to create content for NPR so the rich people can hear it?
	Let me stop you for a second.
	After high school, Mar graduated from the Arabic...
	Language Institute.
	An intensive program at the American University of Cairo in 2003.
	She recalled a formative experience and she developed her interest in the Middle East.
	What's she doing here?
	Mar also studied at the Institut Francais.
	She was in Damascus.
	She was in Syria.
	She spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia.
	I'm reminded of a meeting I had with the economic hitman for lunch one time.
	He says, My entire family says don't take Arabic because they're all CIA spooks.
	I said don't take Arabic because you'll be stuck in the Middle East.
	No, you want Mandarin.
	From 2007 to 2010, she was at UNICEF.
	Then she was at the National Democratic Institute as an ICT program officer.
	Worked at the World Bank.
	She worked at Twitter.
	DC-based access now operation advocacy.
	This woman is...
	Wikipedia Foundation, she was the communications officer there.
	Mary, just one thing after, this is an unbelievable bio.
	U.S. State Department Foreign Affairs Policy Board.
	Worked with Clinton, Secretary with Hillary.
	She's just unbelievable.
	Well, this leads me to believe that Signal is not a safe app.
	That leads me to believe the exact same thing.
	Or it's just a backdoor operation.
	I was probably reflecting on what it was.
	You know, talking about that, it's possible that they just slipped Jeffrey in and nobody really put him on the call at all.
	Very suspicious.
	And this woman is extremely suspicious.
	To grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.
	It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.
	I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir.
	I was just reflecting on my own experiences.
	You think that white people should pay reparations?
	I have never said that, sir.
	Yes, you did.
	You said it in January of 2020.
	You tweeted.
	Yes, the North.
	Yes, all of us.
	Yes, America.
	Yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt.
	Yes, reparations.
	Yes, on this day.
	I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
	What kind of reparations was it a reference to?
	I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.
	That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted.
	And he went on and on and on and on.
	But that was entertaining.
	Yeah, of course.
	But she was slick.
	I watched her.
	She was calm, cool, and collected.
	Yeah. I mean, in regards to Signal, that's a little troubling.
	I wonder why she...
	Well, maybe, on the other hand, maybe that's exactly why it is sanctioned for use within the government, which I learned.
	I didn't know that.
	I didn't think that they could use...
	They're private phones for anything that had a government business.
	Don't we have the National Archive Act and all kinds of stuff that you have to, no matter what has been discussed, has to be archived somewhere?
	Yeah, supposedly.
	Someone needs to fess up or someone needs to go.
	And I think that Hegseth is one more gaffe away.
	Yes, you're right.
	One more gaffe, he's done.
	So, I like him, but the way he responded, did not like him.
	Thought that was very, very poor.
	He wasn't, he's not using his resources.
	Use your words, Pete!
	No, I'm talking about, you know, there are people, the Pentagon has something like 27,000 to 60,000 public relations specialists.
	I mean, that many people, so they can just hound the media.
	And they have people there that could, How should I respond to this?
	Meetings could take place with 10 of the top people and they would give him the marching orders.
	I think they'd cut him off.
	I wonder if this could have been a Pegasus type deal where someone basically just controls your phone and can remotely add someone to a signal chat.
	Watch this.
	That seems more likely.
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	By the way, Tina's out of town.
	She's in Indiana visiting her mom.
	And so that gives me an opportunity to watch stuff that, you know how you don't know per se, but we're sitting at home and I'm surfing through the Netflix and I'm like, hey, let's watch this.
	And I'm like, oh no, that is Robert De Niro in it.
	I hate him.
	Which, by the way, I'm like, yeah, you're right.
	I watched Zero Day, which is starring De Niro, and he plays the ex-president of the United States.
	Very good movie.
	And it deals a lot with what can happen with phones and apps, and even more delightful how the circumvention is.
	Everyone gets around all of these things when they're doing something nefarious.
	How do the bad guys communicate?
	How? Ham radio, baby.
	Ham radio.
	That's when the story...
	Well, you know, De Niro was also in Wag the Dog.
	Which was a fantastic movie.
	Which is another fantastic movie.
	He was great until he had to pull his own documentary out of the Tribeca Film Festival about how his kid got autism and he thought it was from vaccines.
	And then they were like, you'll never make another movie in this town again, De Niro.
	Oh, okay.
	Do you remember that?
	That was during the show.
	That information has been lost on me.
	No, that was during the show.
	Yeah. From his own film festival, he pulled the documentary.
	Oh, no.
	There's not enough evidence about this.
	I've decided to pull this documentary.
	That's when he went sour.
	Come on, man.
	Taxi Driver.
	Was he in Taxi Driver?
	Yeah. Yeah.
	So. Well, what else we got in this regard?
	Well, I don't think much else.
	I mean, we'll just see what happens, but we need to keep an eye on Hegseth because I think he's on deck.
	Yeah, that's what it looks like.
	They're not letting up on this.
	You got a top MS-13 guy?
	Who cares?
	Signalgate. You're going to put 25% tariff on all cars coming into America?
	Who cares?
	Signalgate. Who cares?
	Nobody cares.
	Everybody wants it.
	Get some veterans.
	Well, I fought in the war and people I know died because of intelligence mess-ups.
	So cynical.
	All this stuff.
	I hate mainstream media.
	Let's go to the car tariffs.
	Okay. I have the BBC.
	I have a series.
	These are all spelled C-A-E.
	And tariff is misspelled.
	I usually correct these with this legend.
	You got Kay Reifs.
	I thought Kay Reifs was a lady that I was very interested in.
	When I saw your clips come in, people have to know, John sends me clips, I don't listen to them.
	I just look at the titles to know, okay, maybe I don't need a whole series of clips here because if there's something about Kay Reifs in the news, I don't need a clip on her.
	It was a typo.
	And apparently she's a needle.
	It was blurry.
	So, did we start with the now?
	My vision was blurry.
	Do you drive?
	This is not the analysis clips.
	Yeah, this is the kickoff.
	This is the now, just the BBC straight up.
	Wait, is this World Service?
	Yeah, BBC World Service.
	And now another series of clips from the BBC World Service.
	President Trump has announced a 25% tariff on all cars imported into the United States from the 2nd of April.
	He claimed the measure would spur growth in the US car industry and create jobs and investment.
	Our North America business correspondent Erin Delmore reports.
	President Trump said the new tariffs would bring car and truck production back to the US and generate billions of dollars in revenue.
	Mr. Trump made clear that the new tariffs are permanent and not a negotiating tactic designed to extract concessions from America's trade partners.
	But determining which vehicles are made in America can be complicated, particularly when it comes to America's closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada.
	The new taxes will immediately hit millions of foreign-made cars sold in the US each year.
	The move is poised to send a shock through the industry, with potential for higher prices, lower supply, and lower production.
	Shares of the U.S.'s big three automakers fell in after-hours trading.
	Okay, well, shaking things up.
	I don't know why the prices would fall, because you think the U.S. automakers would benefit, but I guess the only car that's actually made here is Tesla.
	The rest of them are made for parts from everywhere.
	Isn't there a carve-out for parts?
	No, not yet.
	I think you're wrong.
	Well, they've been talking about it.
	I listened to this morning.
	I was watching Outnumbered, and they had Charles Payne on as the dude, because there's a bunch of women and one guy.
	And that's why it's called outnumbered.
	Yes, yes.
	And he went on about it, and they talked about the car parts carve out, and it was like it was still unsettled.
	Ah, well, I'm just going to interrupt, and then we'll get back to your BBC anal clips.
	This is France.
	Analysis is what it is.
	I know what it says.
	This production line in Japan is churning out Toyota cars, many of them destined for the U.S. In a week's time, they'll be subject to a punishing 25% tariff, prompting the government to plea for an exclusion.
	We have again strongly urged the U.S. government to exclude Japan from the scope of these measures.
	Other top suppliers hit hard by the attacks are Canada, Mexico, Germany and South Korea.
	Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney called it a direct attack on the country's workers.
	We will defend our workers.
	We will defend our companies.
	We will defend our country.
	Currently, half the cars sold in the U.S. are American-made, and industry experts say the move could increase prices per car by thousands of dollars and impact jobs.
	President Donald Trump says it will revitalize American industry.
	We're going to charge countries for doing business in our country and taking our jobs, taking our wealth.
	After a 25% duty on steel and aluminium, this is Trump's latest move to renege on a trade deal he struck in his first term with Mexico and Canada.
	The new tariff applies to cars and light trucks.
	Auto parts that comply with the 2019 deal will remain tariff-free There you go.
	Yeah, I don't think that's correct.
	Oh, it's France 24. How could you doubt the French?
	Yeah, I don't think they know what they're talking about.
	All right, okay.
	So let's go with the analysis clips.
	Should be fairly short.
	Here to make sense of that announcement is our North of America correspondent Erin Delmo.
	The clearest way through it is to think of it as a 25% tariff on all cars not made in the United States and no tariffs on cars made in the United States.
	He also made a mention that Americans would be able to deduct interest payments on their car loans from their taxes if their cars are made in America.
	To me, one of the big things that stood out is he said he's not budging.
	He said that these tariffs are permanent and that he's not putting this forward as a negotiating tactic to try to get concessions from America's trade partners in future tariff negotiations.
	He said, this is permanent.
	We are going to bring domestic production, domestic manufacturing of cars and trucks.
	What about car parts coming into the US?
	Is there any clarification yet as whether they may face import duties as well?
	Because that would be significant, wouldn't it?
	Absolutely. Here's why it would be significant.
	Car parts can come in from foreign suppliers, but they also are made in Mexico and Canada as well and then cross borders into the United States into US production facilities for cars that look to be...
	Well, there goes my Corinthian leather.
	That took two pieces.
	Another boomer joke!
	I'm easing into my role.
	You're getting worse, by the way.
	I'm easing into it.
	I'm starting to like it.
	The old-timers that listen to this show must get a kick out of us.
	Someone, hopefully somewhere, does.
	Well, the kids don't.
	They're going, what the fuck are these guys talking about?
	So, here we go with clip two.
	This announcement, I mean, we are used to lots of tariff announcements.
	This seems...
	A pretty serious one, because Donald Trump has clearly said he's not going to withdraw these tariffs.
	Absolutely. And it's a really interesting line in the sand.
	I'm listening to Mark Carney there.
	You know, having spent a lot of time in Canada, you know, the Canadian auto sector is hugely reliant.
	This is, you know, hundreds of thousands of jobs, billions of dollars.
	So, very significant.
	But I think around the world, now, it's not going to affect Australia.
	We don't make any cars anymore.
	I haven't for quite some time.
	So, it won't have an impact directly in that way.
	But, you know, these things have a tendency of having a big ripple effect, right?
	Across other sectors.
	And, you know, the steel aluminium tariffs that will be coming onto Australia, already there's shaking the chain on drugs and medicines.
	That's something Australia provides a lot of medicines to the US and brings a lot in.
	We have a free medicines policy or program for lots of Australians who rely on the government to buy for no-cost or low-cost medicines.
	Ireland's also worried about it.
	But, I mean, I don't know.
	Can he really...
	I don't know.
	I don't know whether that's possible.
	Unless he intends to be the permanent president, I wouldn't think there'd be permanent tariffs, but I don't know, and I don't think we should be predicting too much at this point.
	Stephanie, it is a complicated issue, tariffs here, because the global car industry operates in so many different parts of the world.
	So you're sitting there in your office, and you're like, oh, yeah.
	I gotta do this.
	I gotta get that laugh extra kooky.
	We do work for you people.
	What was it?
	Shaking the chain.
	I like that.
	Shaking the chain.
	This whole thing is because...
	This is a quite significant idea that he thinks he's gonna do.
	You know, the global...
	You start to realize when you start hearing these analysis, especially the moaning and groaning that takes place from everyone.
	Oh, the Australians, now they're worried about this and that.
	And all the Canadians think it's all about them.
	You realize that the globalist entanglements have been set up so well.
	It's massive.
	That it's like, wow, these guys, this is, Trump is not going to pull this off.
	I don't think he's going to pull it off.
	Oh, I think he will.
	Oh, I definitely think he will.
	And I'll tell you why after your clips.
	Okay. All right.
	Onward. Around 50% of cars sold in the U.S. are imported.
	It is the world's biggest importer of cars.
	About 22% of those imports in 2024 came from Mexico.
	Juan Carlos Baker-Paneda, of course, familiar voice on this program, is Mexico's former vice minister for foreign trade, currently a researcher at the Pan American University in Mexico City.
	Hello, Juan Carlos.
	Hi, yeah.
	Yeah, you know, there's a lot going on in the world, and there's a lot of confusion about many things.
	You're in Mexico.
	I am.
	Yeah. Yes.
	What do you make of this decision?
	It could have a huge impact on the car industry, though.
	I love this.
	You're in Mexico.
	Yes, yes.
	Can't you tell I'm in Mexico?
	Ha ha ha!
	Yes, absolutely.
	The consequences of this are not entirely clear right now.
	But as you say, the impact on this is very significant because cars represent the largest exports of Mexico to the United States.
	It also represents a significant, sizable contribution of the GDP.
	Anywhere between 8% and 9% of Mexico's GDP somehow is connected to the automotive industry.
	So the fact that these tariffs are announced, the fact that President Trump seems to have no regard whatsoever for the USMC and its rules, clearly is very disturbing.
	Right now, today, the Minister of the Economy, Secretary Marcelo Ebrard, And his team are in Washington.
	And it has been reported that they will be having meetings tonight and tomorrow with the people of President Trump's cabinet, the Secretary of Commerce.
	And, well, clearly something has to be worked out because if the tariffs are imposed, as the president suggests, well, the impact on Mexico is going to be significant.
	And it's going to change the mood, I would say, between Mexico and the United States right now.
	And the relationship as it is is going through some tense moments.
	And this clearly is not going to help.
	Go on and on.
	And so let's go to the last clip, which is, I think, another.
	So we have the Mexicans complaining, the Australians complaining.
	I don't know why they're complaining.
	The Canadians complaining, the Europeans complaining.
	Everyone's complaining.
	Because they believe he's serious, and I think he is.
	Let us hear a couple of more voices now.
	Firstly, here's Glenn Stevens.
	He's executive director of Detroit-based...
	Industry, auto industry group, Mitch Otto, he told me these tariffs are bad news for the industry and customers.
	We don't see any positives in the short term.
	We had anticipated this.
	The president had signaled this.
	But about half of the vehicles sold in the United States every year are imported.
	7.68 million last year.
	So this is a significant shock to the system.
	We also have steel and aluminum tariffs.
	We have China tariffs, now reciprocal, and now these tariffs.
	The cost of the vehicle, the input cost, will go up.
	We expect anywhere from $3,000 to $10,000, depending on the transaction price of the vehicle, it will increase.
	And in the U.S., a vehicle already costs $49,000 to purchase new on average.
	So it's already at an all-time high.
	We're concerned about this.
	We have a lot of questions right now tonight that we're trying to sort through.
	What's the top one on your list that you're going to try and answer?
	Which is the one you're struggling with at the most at the moment?
	Yeah, the number one issue is, are vehicles from Canada and Mexico, because of the existing USMCA agreement, are they included in this?
	It appears that they are, but we don't have confirmation of that.
	And that is a big situation, particularly for the companies based in Michigan, Ford, GM, and Stellantis.
	So just to give you an idea, and actually one of our producers just posted that in the troll room.
	In the Netherlands, you have something called BPM, which is a special tax for cars.
	And if you do the math, Let me see.
	A Ford Mustang, which costs, what is it, $35,000, $40,000?
	Yeah. In the Netherlands, $120,000 after the VAT, the BPM, the climate tax, all that stuff was put on.
	But BPM is just a made-up number.
	It's like, oh, well, you know, we got to tax you for that.
	So Trump is not wrong.
	No, I think he's correct.
	And when you look at...
	What I'm saying is that I'm not complaining about his correctness or his righteousness about this.
	I'm complaining, not complaining, but I'm suggesting that the entanglements are so broad-based that it's going to be almost impossible to actually make any of this work.
	Well, but this is the hill he's going to die on.
	This has been his thing for 30, 40 years he's been talking about.
	Yeah, forever.
	So, now he has the opportunity, and he means it, and he's trying to brand it, but he's not doing a very good job.
	Well, I may give a lot of countries breaks, but it's reciprocal, but we might be even nicer than that.
	You know, we've been very nice to a lot of countries for a long time, but I call it Liberation Day.
	April 2nd is Liberation Day.
	But today, as you know, we did something with respect to Venezuela.
	You heard about that.
	And that will be quite important.
	We'll be announcing some additional tariffs over the next few days, having to do with automobiles, cars, and having also to do a little bit with lumber down the road.
	Lumber and chips.
	We're going to get all those chip companies coming back.
	They were already coming back without even doing it.
	So it's been very good.
	But we'll be announcing some others.
	But for the most part, April 2nd will be a big day.
	That'll be Reciprocal Day.
	And we'll be bringing some of the money back that's been taken from us.
	Let's be nice by using the word taken.
	I don't want to use a stronger word because these guys are professional politicians.
	And they don't like to hear those words.
	I refuse to use the word stolen from us.
	So it's Liberation Day, it's Reciprocal Day, it's, I don't know what day it is.
	It's April 2nd.
	He needs to work on it.
	Well, that's what you mean by it's not branding.
	No, no.
	I mean, Liberation, if you're going to do Liberation Day, you need a media package, you need some memes out there on the internet of people with big F-250s and Mustangs, you know, cruising around.
	Yeah, it could be coordinated better.
	Much better.
	There's really no, he's sticking with us, you know, running a million miles an hour, but not really coordinating anything in such a way that you have a big splash.
	It goes from one thing to another.
	Yeah, so instead he has a very small announcement.
	Today we're delighted to report that Hyundai is announcing a major $5.8 billion investment in American manufacturing.
	In particular, Hyundai will be building a brand new steel plant in Louisiana, which will produce more than 2.7 million metric tons of steel a year, creating more than 1,400 jobs for American steel workers.
	And then there'll be major expansion after that.
	This will be Hyundai's first ever steel mill in the United States, one of the largest companies in the world, by the way, supplying steel for its auto parts and auto plants in Alabama and Georgia.
	Which will soon produce more than one million American-made cars every single year.
	The cars are coming into this country at levels never seen before.
	Get ready.
	This investment is a clear demonstration that tariffs very strongly work, and I hope other things also, but the tariffs are bringing them in at levels that have not been witnessed.
	So a million American cars.
	Well, I mean, everyone's going to buy an American car if you're going to buy a car, or American-made car, I should say.
	That part will work, especially if you're allowed to deduct the interest on your car loan.
	Whoa! Now you're talking.
	But that's a Congress thing.
	That's not an executive order, is it?
	It's a tax thing.
	Yeah, which is Congress.
	I would say...
	The problem is we don't, you know, with half the cars being imported, until these reports came out, I didn't realize that half of our, in other words, our own automotive industry can't even keep up with Toyota and BMW and all the people that ship cars into this country.
	So half of them are imported.
	They'd have to double production of American cars, which they're not going to be able to do.
	You can't just double production.
	Overnight. And I think one thing that's going to happen is the used car market is going to heat up again.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm like, I'm not driving my car.
	I'm keeping my miles.
	But I'll need a car.
	That's the problem.
	Yeah, you need a car.
	Do you have wind chimes in your studio now all of a sudden?
	Oh, this is those things in the back.
	It's funny.
	You know, I don't understand how that mic can pick this up.
	It's my ears.
	Well, I don't think anyone else can.
	Ask the chat room.
	We don't have a chat.
	We got trolls.
	Trolls, do you hear the chimes?
	Now I'm ringing them loud.
	Yeah, well, you hear that for sure.
	Well, not necessarily.
	That's on the backside of the mic.
	Everybody hears it.
	Everybody hears it.
	They all hear that?
	Yeah, they all hear it.
	Huh. Yes.
	That's disappointing.
	It must be reflective.
	That could be it.
	Of course, one of the hottest car manufacturers right now is certainly not American.
	BYD sales last year surpassed the $100 billion mark, beating rival Tesla on revenue for the first time since 2018.
	It reported a revenue of $107 billion for 2024, up 29%.
	Tesla's 2024 revenue, meanwhile, stood at $97.7 billion.
	This year already looks like it could be an even better one for the Chinese EV maker.
	it unveiled a new ecosystem that allows EVs to charge for 400 kilometres in just five minutes and introduced advanced driver assistance technology You wanted to say something?
	I'd like to note, this BYD I'm impressed with, but of course they don't sell even one car in this country, so the market possibilities for them is pretty high.
	I think you have the same question I have about the charging.
	How does this work?
	Well, I looked it up.
	It will charge within five minutes.
	Now, they make it sound nice to say a thousand kilowatt charger.
	That's a megawatt.
	Are you going to put a megawatt charger in my house now?
	No, that's not the idea.
	That's what I read.
	No, the idea is that you have gas station-like facilities.
	Yes. That you drive to and you stick it just like in a normal gas station.
	The big advantage, I don't keep gas here at the house.
	I go to the gas station and within five minutes I fill up a tank of gas.
	The idea is that you should be able to do the same thing with an electric car as opposed to nowadays where you stop at one of these charging stations.
	You have to wait a half an hour for the car to get even a 300 mile, even a half charge.
	It takes an hour to...
	Two hours sometimes to get a full charge.
	No, I understand.
	So they want to make it so you don't have to charge at home.
	I understand, but are you going to get a megawatt at gas stations?
	How is that going to happen?
	One megawatt!
	That's a pretty big jolt.
	I mean, yeah, yes, you're absolutely right.
	But that means you need a whole bunch of infrastructure to do what you just explained.
	The infrastructure's not there.
	You're right.
	They can't even affect Biden for the whole four years, if you recall.
	Right at the get-go in 2020, he says, we're going to build 300,000 charging stations or some outrageous number.
	It was at least 50,000.
	I'm not sure what the number is now because I've forgotten.
	But he was going to build, and he built one.
	So BYD has a deal with Shell in Shenzhen.
	And the airport has 258 public fast charging ports.
	I don't know if these are the...
	No, this five-minute thing is brand new.
	There's no way that they're going to have that many online right away.
	It's going to take forever.
	But if it takes a megawatt, you're going to have to have some serious juice going in there.
	So they say that...
	So this is near the airport.
	Solar panels installed on the roof could...
	Generate about 300 kilowatt hours of renewable electricity electronically used to charge the vehicles.
	I'm skeptical of that too.
	So, I mean, a kilowatt hour...
	Especially in China or around that airport.
	I've been to China enough to know that...
	With all the smog.
	There's no sun!
	Exactly. So, I'm skeptical about this announcement.
	And to make...
	And to get that amount of power, you have to have these coal burning...
	You know, power stations making this smog worse.
	Yeah. Yeah, so I'm very skeptical about all that.
	Yeah, I am too.
	I mean, I think they may have the technology, but I don't think they have the...
	Well, sure.
	Sure. I mean, I could make...
	By the way, I'm skeptical about the technology too.
	If I could get a megawatt of power, I'd be mining Bitcoin.
	Come on, man.
	I'm not going to charge my car.
	I'll stay home and print money.
	There's a lot of power.
	One of the news girls, you'll recognize who it is.
	I don't know if it's CBS or the NBC girl.
	I talked to Warren Buffett about the tariffs, and he had some interesting answers.
	How do you think tariffs will affect the economy?
	I mean, tariffs are actually, we've had a lot of experience with them.
	They're an act of war.
	To some degree.
	How do you think tariffs will impact inflation?
	Over time, there are attacks on goods.
	What? Is that Nora?
	I think it is Nora, yeah.
	Well, it's a highly edited piece, but she's talking about inflation, he's talking about inflation, but he's talking about money printing inflation as far as I'm concerned.
	On goods, I mean, you know, the truth fairy doesn't pay up.
	I mean, you always have to just, and then what?
	You always have to ask that question in economics, always say, and then what?
	So is there an answer for that when people say, you know, inflation persists, consumer prices keep going up, when's the end in sight?
	No, prices will be higher 10 years from now and 20 years from now and 30 years from now.
	And what do you think about what's happening in Washington right now?
	That's because of money printing.
	Of course it'll be more expensive 10 years from now, 20 years from now.
	It always has been.
	Yeah, we also used to buy our Toyota trucks for $59.99.
	I think it's Washington.
	It's, you know, technology changes things, all kinds of things, but Washington is Washington.
	The problem with politics is that you tend to have to make tiny compromises as you go along.
	There you go.
	So, they got him to say prices will go up, but I don't think he was in the same conversation.
	And we'll see.
	We'll see what happens.
	I mean, it all comes down to what do you want to buy.
	You know, he's not taxing avocados.
	No tariffs on that.
	On a car.
	Well, when's the last time you bought a car?
	26 years ago?
	I bought a car, when I buy this last car, used, of course.
	Of course.
	Bought it about seven years ago, maybe.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	It's like, oh, no one will buy cars anymore.
	We'll see.
	In general, though, the economy of certain states is pretty bad.
	Really bad in California.
	Is it?
	This was a shocking report, John.
	Shocking. Several businesses along the famed Sunset Strip have closed in recent months.
	Others are on the verge and there is a community effort underway to save one of them.
	KTLA's Annie Rose Ramos live in West Hollywood with more on that.
	Annie Rose, good morning.
	Hey guys, good morning to you both.
	Yeah, we keep on hearing about this happening over and over again.
	We counted a total of five businesses and restaurants that have announced they're closing just in the past two months.
	Okay, so she's on the Sunset Strip.
	It's a big story.
	An important restaurant is closing.
	Which one?
	Which one is it?
	You've been up and down the Strip.
	You've been to Le Dome.
	It's not Le Dome, by the way.
	You've been to some of the cool places on Sunset Strip.
	Which one is closing?
	Probably someplace I've never heard of.
	No, you've heard of this one.
	On the Sunset Strip.
	I've been to this one many times.
	I don't know.
	Here on the Sunset Strip, including the restaurant you see behind me, beloved Le Petit Four.
	It has been around.
	Le Petit Four.
	That's where all the...
	All the Russians in tracksuits hang out.
	I've never been there.
	You've never been to Le Petit Four?
	Oh. No.
	For over 40 years.
	And now some community members coming together to make a last-ditch effort in order to try and save it.
	Take a look here.
	They are posting this GoFundMe page.
	Yeah, with $6,000.
	Good luck keeping your restaurant going.
	Especially on that property.
	Yeah. But maybe the strip has just died.
	It probably has.
	The last time I was down there, it didn't have the same vibrancy that it used to have.
	That's for sure.
	When I lived there, it didn't have that vibrancy.
	It was already horrible.
	Compared to late 80s, early 90s when we go out to LA to film stuff.
	No. It's no good.
	There's a depressing aspect to LA at the moment.
	Like San Francisco, it's depressing because of all the homeless.
	And it's got nothing to do with the California economy.
	It has to do with the policies regarding the homeless encampments and the allowance of crime.
	A lot of crime.
	Well, but who lives in California?
	Just poor people and a bunch of rich people.
	I'm just guessing.
	Well, there's middle class in California.
	There's a lot of middle class.
	In the valley, in the porn industry.
	Let's not generalize.
	Okay. Why would we do that?
	You've got several series here, so I'm going to let you choose one.
	Let's see what we got.
	Because unlike you, when you have a series, I just step back and let you go.
	Yeah, there's some of this.
	Let's do the order on...
	Here's a quickie.
	This is an order on elections that didn't get any play at all.
	Oh, I thought it was pretty big.
	Trump on the elections?
	I didn't think it I didn't hear much about it.
	President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that aims to make sweeping changes to elections and voter registration including a proof Hi, Jude.
	Hello. Hello.
	Hello. Hello.
	Okay, so what exactly is this?
	Once again, no time or expense spared for this program.
	Negative order.
	Right, right, right.
	Well, there's a lot in here.
	And so it lays out a number of new requirements and says if states don't comply, they will not get federal funding.
	So one big change is this new proof of citizenship requirement to register to vote in federal elections.
	So you'd need to show a copy of a citizenship document, like a passport, to a local or state official in order to register to vote, or whenever you update your registration, like if you move.
	Another change, the executive order aims to stop states from counting mail ballots that are postmarked by Election Day but arrive after.
	This is something that a lot of states allow.
	Wait, legally?
	Can the president make all of these changes simply by executive order?
	Well, that's really the key question.
	So Trump is trying to assert that he, as president, has authority over elections.
	And that's not been the case.
	We have a decentralized system where states make a lot of their own election rules.
	But this order seeks to expand the president's power and test how far it can go.
	Yeah, I don't think he's going to get that through.
	I like it, but I don't think that's going to happen.
	I agree.
	Not going to happen.
	In Title 18 of the U.S. Code, that if you vote in a general election as a non-resident, non-citizen, I should say, and you're caught, you will not be prosecuted as long as you believed you were a citizen.
	Which is very interesting.
	That's interesting.
	I don't think that's in this report.
	No, I don't know when that snuck in, but that is like, oh, okay.
	So you can do it.
	If you get caught, oh well, no problem.
	I thought I was a citizen, huh?
	What? We've already heard from voting rights advocates that lawsuits are going to challenge this.
	And normally an overhaul like this would be something for Congress to take on.
	And in fact, Republicans have been backing a bill called the SAVE Act that includes a lot of the same provisions as this order.
	Oh man, that thing's been around for years, the SAVE Act.
	That's not new.
	It goes nowhere.
	Oh no.
	That bill likely faces an uphill battle in the Senate, so instead some critics are saying Trump is forcing through that legislation by executive fiat.
	Well, what has President Trump said about why he's pushing these changes?
	Well, he says it's necessary for election integrity.
	Here he is yesterday when he signed the order.
	We've got to straighten out our election.
	This country is so sick because of the election, the fake elections and the bad elections.
	You know, of course, Trump touts the results of the last election, which he won, but it's long been part of his brand to make false claims, false claims about voter fraud, most notably when he denied the results of the 2020 election.
	And in the lead up...
	To this past election, he and his allies made baseless, baseless claims about the threat of non-citizens voting in large numbers, which we know from audits and studies that such cases are really rare, yet that's what they're targeting here.
	Yeah. Okay, well, I'm curious, how are voting experts reacting to this order?
	You know, I just had an idea.
	Exit strategy does require work, but we could get people to help us.
	We could just do NPR remixed.
	And it's just doing exactly what you do.
	All those strange things they put in there, all of the little NLP tricks, all of the hyperforas, all that stuff could just be NPR remix.
	And it would be a popular stream.
	You know, put it to some music.
	It wouldn't get a couple of our end-of-show mixers to put a beat under it.
	Yeah, it would be.
	I'm sure NPR would take offense and we'd get a cease and desist for...
	Well, for what?
	I'll be right.
	Well, you know, I think there's an argument that could be made that you could say it was for entertainment humor purposes.
	Yes, parody.
	Parody under...
	What's it called?
	I don't know.
	Fair use?
	Fair use, yes.
	Parody under fair use.
	Totally appropriate.
	Yeah. Well, until then, I'm doing these.
	Well, I spoke with UCLA Law Professor Rick Hassan, and he brought up how very rare these cases of non-citizen voting are, but that a proof of citizenship requirement would have a big impact and could disenfranchise millions of voters.
	So you'd be using a very strict rule to prevent a very small amount of fraud.
	The intention seems likely to be to suppress the vote rather than to try to make...
	Our elections are filled with greater integrity, of course.
	And, you know, people are already asked on voter registration forms to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote, and they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally.
	Okay. Say more.
	No, that's not true.
	If they believe they were citizens, then there's no problem.
	Yes, in fact, that should have been in the report.
	In the report, it should have been right in there.
	But it wasn't.
	Incorrect. And, you know, people are already asked on voter registration forms to attest under penalty of perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote, and they can face prison or deportation if they try to vote illegally.
	Okay. Say more about how Rick Hassan told you if this order stands, millions of voters could be disenfranchised.
	Like, how would that happen exactly?
	Right. Well, past studies have found that almost one in ten Americans...
	Doesn't have a proof of citizenship document or doesn't have easy access to one.
	And this order is also a bit vague about even which documents would be accepted as proof of citizenship.
	It doesn't explicitly name birth certificates.
	It does name passports, but only about half of Americans have those.
	They cost money and take a while to get.
	So this rule would likely upend voter registration drives as well and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote.
	This would really be a sea change.
	Did I just hear...
	An iPhone go?
	Was that on the clip or was that you?
	It wasn't me.
	I don't have an iPhone.
	The upend voter registration drives as well and other ways that Americans are used to signing up to vote.
	This would really be a sea change.
	I was going to say, wait a minute.
	John has an iPhone.
	No. It's so annoying that NPR, they just never have anyone on from the other side.
	They are just, oh, this is no good.
	Oh, this is bad.
	Oh, he's not going to make it through the course.
	PBS is worse.
	Never. They have one side, they was brought up during the congressional hearings, and I'm surprised you didn't have that clip, where they asked this ma or woman, you know, you realize that they...
	They challenged the reporters.
	You had 87 reporters.
	They're all registered Democrats.
	There's not one Republican that works in the newsroom.
	87%, wasn't it?
	No, it was a total number.
	87 to nothing.
	Thanks for saying you're surprised.
	You should email me with that.
	I'm surprised you didn't get that clip.
	I'm surprised you didn't get that clip.
	Because that was, I thought, was a key element clip.
	Oh, it was surprise.
	Big surprise.
	No Republicans at NPR.
	I know.
	And she was like, whoa, that's interesting.
	And she acted like she didn't know.
	That was the funny part about it.
	What? What?
	Gambling? I can't believe that.
	She's a spook.
	Okay, I want to...
	I have a couple of clips here.
	That means the series don't go to the end.
	You used the word splash earlier.
	I did?
	Yeah, you said make a splash or something.
	Well, I think it had to do with Trump's approach.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Well, because this is a word that we heard about a week ago, and it's back, and you could say splash or you could say splash.
	For the Hague Summit...
	What I hope coming out of the Hague Summit is that it will really be a splash.
	A splash.
	A big splash.
	This is the splash.
	This is Mark Rutte.
	He is the head of the NATO.
	And this is the big Hague Summit, which he wants to be a splash.
	Projecting the collective NATO power and therefore also American power on the world stage.
	Yes, he's working for us still.
	Of course, defending the Euro-Atlantic.
	But I would even say the world stage because...
	It's not extending Article 5 to the Indo-Pacific, but working together as NATO also to make sure that we keep the Indo-Pacific safe.
	And that means spending more.
	It means producing more.
	Wait, stop.
	What does NATO stand for?
	North American Treaty.
	North Atlantic.
	North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
	What's that got to do with the Indo-Pacific?
	North Atlantic is a very specific area.
	It does not make a difference.
	It's the Atlantic Ocean, the northern part.
	You can make a splash in any ocean.
	So it does not matter where the splash is, as long as it's a splash, and it shows American power.
	And that means spending more.
	It means producing more.
	Spending more on war stuff.
	It means a fair distribution between the US and other NATO allies.
	Yes, it's fair.
	We need...
	You not fair.
	You not fair, Europe.
	And as I said, it will be about the lethality.
	Lethality of NATO.
	Lethality! You know, where we kill you with this stuff, man.
	NATO kill your lethality.
	And as I said, it will be about...
	The lethality of NATO showing that, yes, we will never be an offensive organization.
	We are defensive organizations.
	Bullshit. We are defensive.
	We're not making any troubles.
	Tell that to the Libyans.
	We're not making trouble.
	But don't dare to attack us.
	Can you explain to me why they attacked Libya?
	Why do you ask these questions every time he's saying that we're defensive?
	Just shut up.
	Lethality. Lethality of NATO.
	Showing that yes, we will never be an offensive organization.
	We are a defensive organization.
	But don't dare to attack us.
	Don't you dare to attack us!
	Because you will not see the light of day again.
	And I hope that will be...
	This guy is the biggest warmonger in the universe.
	Don't you dare attack us!
	The real outcome of the Hague Summit.
	A splash.
	Showing that reinvigorated alliance standing together.
	One for all.
	All for one.
	We are the three musketeers.
	One for all.
	All for one.
	But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but.
	Don't... This is not...
	We're not doing this because USA wants it.
	This is not about USA.
	Except you don't want to cross USA.
	First of all, by understanding that we do not do this because the Americans want us to do it, but because we need to do it because of Russia.
	We don't do it because the Americans...
	Remember, I will change my story at the end of this clip, but it's not because Americans want it.
	And the threat.
	By the way, by spending more, you will also have a fair burden-sharing with the U.S., because the U.S. rightly is irritated about the fact that in Europe we have collected the peace dividend, and I myself as Prime Minister was part of that.
	And that was wrong.
	Luckily, the Netherlands is now spending over 2%.
	Luckily! But collectively, we have collected the peace difference.
	And rightly, the U.S. is irritated.
	So by spending more because of the Russian threat, the effect of that is also that you have a fairish burden in sharing with the United States.
	But it's not because America wants this.
	Just so you know, it's not about that.
	And there are a few countries not yet at 2%.
	I would love to say that since I came in on the 1st of October, things started to change.
	That was not true.
	But there happened something on the 20th of January in the US.
	And since then, look what happened.
	It's amazing.
	It's not about America, what America wants, or Trump, who became president on January 20th.
	But it's amazing.
	The Belgians have been saying we want to get to 2% by the summer.
	Spain now is saying they want to get to 2% this summer.
	We know that Portugal, Italy, they all have these debates now.
	And I tell them that, well, now I am calling you to ask you to deliver the 2% by this summer so that collectively we can move considerably north.
	But now I'm calling you.
	But you might get a very patient man from Washington on the line if you don't listen to me.
	And I would love to listen to those phone calls.
	But let's hope they are not necessary.
	And at this moment I must say that all these non-2 percenters are having genuine debates to move to the 2 percent before.
	So all the non-two percenters, it's not about America, but if you don't step up, you might get a call from Washington and you don't want to get that call.
	That's exactly what he said.
	That's exactly what he said.
	And so now, now we have to make sure that we all understand that this is long-term.
	This is not just the Ukraine issue.
	We are never, ever, I don't care what kind of peace deal is made.
	It's never going to end.
	It's the result of 12 hours of behind closed doors talk.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Wrong one.
	Here it is.
	This is the one.
	Well, there will be no normalization of relations with Russia when the war is over.
	That will not happen.
	That will take decades.
	Because there is a total lack of confidence.
	The threat is still there.
	As I said in my speech, even if the war comes to a conclusion, the Russian threat is still there.
	They are building a war economy.
	They are spending so much money on defense.
	It's a war economy.
	They are producing in three months of ammunition what the whole of the alliance is producing in a year.
	Ramping up our ammunition production.
	Luckily, we have to.
	Ramping it up.
	So, there's no way that we can normalize relations with Russia after the war.
	No. In many decades from now.
	And post-Putin, there might be some, but I mean, I'm not optimistic.
	Post-Putin.
	This is the most outrageous thing you can say.
	Well, even if we have a total truce there in Ukraine, nothing's going to normalize with Russia.
	Ever. No, post-Putin, post-Putin, post-Putin.
	And guess what Zelensky said?
	Ukrainian President Zelensky has claimed that his Russian counterpart Putin will die soon.
	The remarks came amid widespread speculation about the Russian president's health.
	Russia has strongly rejected all speculations and maintained the Russian leader is fully fit.
	The Ukrainian leader made the bold claim while speaking to French journalists in a televised interview after meeting French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris.
	Zelensky said Putin hopes to remain in power until his death and his ambitions are not limited to Ukraine.
	He added that the Russian leader's death would bring an end to the war between the two nations.
	There have been continued speculations over Putin's deteriorating health.
	puffy face and making jerky movements.
	He got puffy face and making, he's going to die.
	He's got puffy face.
	Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with puffy face and making jerky movements.
	Some videos also showed Putin coughing continuously.
	Just last week, that Putin suffered a mini stroke with video showing his legs shaking uncontrollably.
	This was during a conference and interview and other times.
	So the So... What kind of a dipshit report was that?
	And he has restless leg syndrome, I guess.
	So he said it in Ukrainian, and all the clips...
	France 24, France von Katra, does not have any report of this, even though he said it in France.
	So I found that to be somewhat odd.
	But all the reports had...
	The mix was no good.
	Zelensky speaking in Ukrainian and the English translation is equally loud.
	It's very hard to understand.
	But he says...
	That's what he says.
	Oh, Putin's going to die soon anyway.
	And then it will all end.
	Which is, in my mind, a veiled threat.
	Oh, he's going to die.
	Don't worry.
	And if he dies, no matter how he dies, then it's all going to be over.
	How does that work?
	Well, because it's the same thing.
	That's why they wanted regime change.
	That's why the CIA said, hey, if you're living in Russia and you want to become a spook, let us know.
	Here's our email address.
	It's only Putin.
	You never hear the Russian citizens are no good.
	You never hear that.
	It's only Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.
	And now, oh!
	The unthinkable has happened.
	We seem to be making headway with a peace deal.
	Oh no!
	It's the result of 12 hours of behind closed doors talks.
	In a series of meetings over three days in Riyadh, two statements from the White House outlining separate agreements with Ukraine and Russia to ensure safe navigation in the Black Sea and to implement a ban on attacks by the two countries on each other's energy facilities.
	Both sides agreed that third parties could oversee the truce.
	Separately, the United States also agreed that it would help restore Russia's access to the world market for agricultural and fertilizer exports.
	We believe that this is a weakening of the position and a weakening of sanctions in our opinion.
	We do not yet know the details of this item and we were not present at this meeting, but this was not on our agenda.
	Nonetheless, Kiev said it would uphold its end of the agreement while calling for more talks to settle the details.
	The Kremlin, meanwhile, declared that the agreement could only come into force after the lifting of restrictions on its agricultural exports.
	Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow didn't trust the Ukrainian president to uphold a ceasefire.
	We need clear guarantees.
	These guarantees can only be the result of an order by Washington to Zelensky.
	The limited truce on energy and sea came about after Vladimir Putin responded to the originally proposed full 30-day ceasefire with a long list of conditions.
	The White House said Tuesday it would continue facilitating talks on both sides in a bid towards achieving a sustainable peace.
	Not quite the end the war in 24 hours that we were promised.
	I'm sorry, that was sarcastic.
	It was being sarcastic.
	So they're starting very, very slowly.
	We need to make peace profitable again.
	I don't know how to do it.
	Let's bring these clips in.
	These are Trump versus the EU on NPR.
	As we've reported before on this show, US administrations, at least as far back as George W. Bush's, have been pushing European nations to increase their defence spending.
	But throughout, the US has remained committed to the principle of NATO's Article 5, which says that an attack against one ally is considered as an attack against all allies.
	That commitment appears to have ended with President Trump.
	Well, I think it's common sense, right?
	If they don't pay, I'm not going to defend them.
	No, I'm not going to defend them.
	It's common sense.
	You don't pay.
	We don't defend you.
	NATO shmato is no good.
	Yeah, they go on with this one.
	Now, for the record, Article 5 of NATO has only ever been invoked once.
	And it was by the United States.
	Branislav Slanchev teaches military and war studies at the University of California, San Diego.
	When Article 5 was invoked after 9-11, the Europeans responded.
	Canadians, they went and they died.
	The British went and they died.
	Everybody responded.
	Wait a minute.
	Didn't the French say that they didn't like it?
	Didn't we have freedom fries for that whole reason?
	It was something.
	What was the freedom fries derived from?
	It had something to do with it.
	Yeah, I thought the French were like, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.
	I'll look it up.
	That includes the French, by the way, who supported the U.S. by sending troops to Afghanistan, 89 of whom died and more than 700 of whom were wounded.
	The Iraq War.
	Public scorn for these sacrifices is just one barb on the arrowhead that has pierced the heart of the European-American relationship and shredded trust between them.
	And it's galvanized European governments to make themselves independent of the U.S. when it comes to their defense.
	But Fenella McGurdy says Europe was already ramping up its defense spending long before Trump came into office.
	Fenella is a senior fellow for defense economics at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.
	In 2024, we saw record defense spending growth already, 11.7% in real terms.
	And that was itself an increase, so an acceleration from the level of growth we saw in 2023, which reached 5.2%, and that was an acceleration from the growth the year before.
	The EU plan announced last week will likely break new records.
	It advocates a massive ramp-up of defence industrial production capacity, and it unlocks a combined $866 billion in military spending over four years.
	That's about what the U.S. spends in a single year on defense.
	So Branislav says it's not even close to a conversion to a war economy, but it could still be good medicine for Europe.
	You know, there's a funny phenomenon I've noticed.
	It goes basically like this.
	Well, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, but we're going to do that anyway.
	Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
	We're going to do that anyway, so it's not important.
	This is the same phenomenon you see with the NPR thing, and there's other examples I've had on the show where they say, well, it's only 1%.
	Oh, they're taking all our money away, but it's only 1%.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, it's only 1%, but still.
	Or the park services, like, oh, the government is making a great investment.
	The $10 billion on national parks generates $70 billion.
	What do you need the $10 for?
	I found this on and on is this idea you complain about something, but then back it off and say, well, it's not important.
	It just doesn't make any sense.
	Now, further on, by the way, this goes on forever.
	The third clip is deep into the conversation near the end.
	I just thought I'd drop that in.
	Everything is changing right now.
	This current war, things have evolved dramatically.
	Initially, for instance, everybody was talking artillery and tanks.
	That was a big thing.
	Then the tanks turned out not to be super effective.
	Now everything is drones and the missiles, right?
	Why is he laughing about that?
	Because they're so cheap?
	It's like drones?
	Now everything is drones and the missiles, right?
	Why is that funny?
	That is interesting.
	I didn't notice this, but you're right.
	Why is it?
	It's a laugh tale, but why?
	Drones. I don't know.
	Drones and missiles.
	Everything is drones and the missiles, right?
	And everything then is related to how you can keep electronic warfare from the interference.
	Do you have eyes in the sky, so the satellites?
	So these are the kind of capabilities we should not be building to fight.
	In other words, the whole thing is a farce.
	I think that's why he's laughing.
	War has become a farce.
	It's like a video game.
	We just push this, we just push that, we got eye in the sky, we got drones, we got missiles.
	It's not really like fighting in the trenches anymore.
	The last three wars we should be building to fight the next one.
	Europe can do all sorts of things to move quickly, or at least more quickly than it usually does.
	It can convert old factories to make arms and reconfigure existing ones to become dual-use civilian and military production hubs.
	It can develop supply relationships with other arms providers like South Korea or Israel.
	But whatever it does, it'll take time, Fenella says.
	And because of that, the US will likely remain part of the European defence equation for the foreseeable future.
	It takes decades for a lot of these programmes.
	So I think that there's some level of dependence will always be there, certainly in things like heavy lift transport and things like that, because those capabilities do take time to develop.
	And I think Europe could get there.
	Not perhaps in the time frame it needs.
	So there's always going to be that level of reliance on the U.S. and hopefully some partnerships going forward, which ultimately is good for U.S. defense industry as well.
	Yeah. Eric Schmidt is a smart guy, man.
	I remember we played a clip of him all about drones.
	Drones is the new warfare.
	This is where it's going.
	And there it is.
	There it is.
	It's all cheap technology.
	To blow people up.
	By the way, food has been...
	Renaming food in time of war is not new.
	So Freedom Fries was indeed...
	Changed the name of French Fries in 2003.
	France's opposition to invading Iraq, which in hindsight, of course, they were correct.
	Yeah. So we punished them.
	Yeah, we're going to show you Frenchies.
	World War I, sauerkraut was renamed in America to Liberty Cabbage.
	And Frankfurters and hot dogs were changed to Liberty Dog.
	Liberty Dog.
	We need an anti-Russian kind of thing.
	But the thing is...
	We don't need Russian food.
	No, because it's...
	Well, vodka.
	We could change vodka.
	Vodka? You could change that to...
	Freedom juice.
	I'm writing it down.
	Freedom juice.
	What else?
	Liberty sap.
	I mean, there's all kinds of things.
	Liberty sap.
	Hey, man, hit me with some...
	Liberty sap.
	Neat. Okay.
	Nice. Oh, man.
	The people are crazy.
	The world has gone nuts.
	It's gone nuts, I tell you.
	The world has gone nuts.
	I do have a couple of...
	These are clips I want to get out of the way.
	This is the DEI DOA clips.
	There's only two of them.
	Okay. All right.
	President Trump has called for an end to what he calls illegal diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.
	So he has revoked a 1965 executive order that has guided generations of federal contractors on how to comply.
	With non-discrimination laws.
	As NPR's Andrea Hsu reports, that's leaving federal contractors who employ one in five workers in the U.S. scrambling.
	The end of Lyndon B. Johnson's executive order 11246 has kept Matt Camaradella busy.
	His whole practice at the law firm Jackson Lewis is helping companies that do business with the government comply with that order and with other federal laws.
	Since Trump's return, he's been fielding questions non-stop.
	This is pretty much all I've been doing for the last six weeks.
	The 1965 executive order required most federal contractors to take steps to identify and address barriers to employment for anyone, but especially women and people of color.
	Camardella says his clients took those responsibilities seriously.
	Every year, they'd analyze their hiring and pay practices to try to figure out, for example, if women were getting paid less than men.
	They'd plan out how to recruit a diverse workforce so that their hires reflected the pool of available workers around them.
	There was real risk in not doing this properly, or at all for that matter.
	But now things have gotten complicated.
	Not only has Trump revoked Johnson's executive order and halted its enforcement, the president has also issued his own executive order requiring contractors to certify that they're not engaging in illegal DEI.
	Yeah, well...
	I didn't realize this went back to Lyndon Johnson.
	No, I didn't know that either.
	But it doesn't surprise me, strangely enough.
	But it really...
	I mean, the thing that people forget about DEI is it was a part of ESG.
	And the reason why companies all got on board with it is because they had a score.
	And it was, I think it was the BlackRock guys.
	Didn't they come up with some board?
	Larry Fink.
	Yes, the Finkelmeister.
	And they had a score system, and depending on your environmental, social, and governance score, you became less or more investable by pension funds, mainly.
	That's why everyone got, it was a real, real evil thing they did.
	Yeah, they pulled the plug on it finally.
	Oh, yes they did.
	Mainly because the investments were bad.
	The high-scoring ESG guys were in good company.
	Lose your pants.
	A court has blocked that part of Trump's order for now.
	Still, Cameradella says the problem is...
	Nobody really understands what illegal DEI means.
	He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law has changed.
	In fact, he believes there's nothing wrong with a company carrying on with what it had been doing, looking at its pay practices or its hiring or its outreach to ensure it's complying with the law.
	However, there may be a perception that somehow that smacks of illegal DEI.
	I'm very concerned.
	Jenny Yang headed the Labor Department office that enforced the 1965 executive order under President Biden.
	That office investigated employers in all kinds of industries, tech, manufacturing, construction.
	In 2020, Princeton University agreed to pay more than a million dollars in back wages and salary adjustments to about 100 female professors after the government found pay disparities.
	The university denied it had discriminated against women, but agreed to look more closely at its pay practices.
	Jenny Yang says the Office of Federal Contractor Compliance Programs, or OFCCP, can claim many successes.
	So in the last decade, OFCCP recovered, for example, over $100 million for women who were victims of discrimination.
	Now under Trump, that office is expected to be largely dismantled since its primary task is gone.
	The Labor Department has not confirmed when that's going to happen.
	Trump says ending illegal discrimination will allow people to compete based on merit.
	Speaking of DEI...
	The Canadian Transportation Board released the data from the black box of the...
	Was it the Delta flight?
	The one that flipped over?
	The one that flipped over.
	And so they have not yet released the cockpit voice recorder, which will be important to hear.
	So just on the pilots, so indeed the first officer, the female, the co-pilot, was a...
	She graduated from the Wright Academy, and it's all within the rules.
	Then you don't need 1,500 hours, but 1,000 hours.
	So she racked up another almost 500.
	She'd flown 56 hours that week.
	And she was piloting, which is very normal, particularly when you note that the captain, the pilot, the one actually in control of the entire flight, A very high amount of hours, but a trainer on simulators and real world.
	So that is exactly the scenario you want.
	You want pilots to be flying and learn how to fly and learn all kinds of scenarios when you have an instructor there next to her in this case.
	There was nothing wrong with the aircraft, but there were wind gusts, and this was a very hard landing.
	The landing gear is rated to a drop onto the tarmac with a sink rate, I think, 760 feet per minute.
	They hit it at over 1,000.
	So what happened was, as I said, the full weight came down on the right rear landing gear.
	It snapped off, and that's why the wing hit the ground, and then they were very fortunate how that all ended up.
	It's not necessarily a DEI issue.
	There's female pilots out there who yell at me when I say this.
	This could have happened to any pilot, but really the male pilot in command was in charge.
	He should have had his hands on the yoke.
	He should have been following through the whole time.
	So we'll see exactly what was said.
	But I think this could have happened to anybody, but it wasn't good.
	It was clearly human error.
	And that's your update from the air.
	BBC World Service aviation update.
	Speaking of illegal DEI, there's another term that popped up in regards to the GLP-1, or as we say, I went to my, I got my hair cut in Austin.
	What is it?
	What's the name of the compound?
	Glute... Glutamine.
	Glutamine. No, it's not glutamine.
	Glutatide. Glut...
	Glut... Glut...
	Glut... Glut And you get your Botox, you get your lip fillers, and you get your GLP-1, your semi-glutades.
	What kind of place are you going to?
	Every place has that now, by the way.
	No, they don't.
	Yes, yes.
	You're going to some sort of a screwball place, some sort of a place with the upper crust of Dallas or whatever, with old Austin.
	Okay, so first of all, it's a women's hair salon, mainly.
	Well, that would make sense.
	Although... The former New York banker also goes there.
	I've been going to her for 15 years.
	So when we left Austin, I was not going to give up on my hair relationship.
	But it's good because she is definitely libtard adjacent.
	But she has no problem with my views.
	And we always have really nice conversations.
	Because she has no one to talk to.
	About how crazy people...
	No one in her life.
	Not her partner, nobody.
	She can't just say...
	She's a lesbian?
	No, no, she's not a lesbian.
	She's a deadhead, though.
	There you go.
	She goes to Vegas to sit in the sphere three nights in a row.
	She loves John Mayer.
	But, you know, she has no one in her life...
	How is this woman?
	She is 47, I think.
	47. 47?
	Yes. What does that have to do with anything?
	I just want to know who would go to Vegas and sit in the sphere for three days unless they were a young stoner.
	Thousands and thousands of people.
	Young stoners.
	Yes. And Vegas is now legal to be stoned everywhere.
	Walk around, the whole place smells like weed.
	You can drink, though, on the street.
	Yes. You can smoke weed on the street, too.
	But now the hotels, the casinos, everything smells of weed.
	Anyway... It's horrible.
	It's nasty.
	Yeah. To get to the point of the story.
	So she can't just say, oh, I enjoyed watching Trump on Rogan.
	She can't say that to anybody in her world in Austin.
	Despite the fact that Rogan is in Austin, is a local.
	Yeah. No, that is not done.
	And she said that she had a client the other day.
	And these are just, yeah, maybe upper crust.
	I'm not sure.
	But white Austin women.
	And the topic of Tesla came up and Elon.
	She's like, eh, well, you know.
	And her customer said, you know he's a Nazi, right?
	And my girl was like, uh, no.
	So these people, these are educated people, actually believe he is a Nazi.
	Like a literal Nazi.
	Not just like a name you call someone.
	No, he's a Nazi.
	He is an actual Nazi.
	Exactly. Anyway, back to the...
	It was a fun...
	It's worth the drive, trust me.
	Back to this illegal term.
	When it comes to the semiglutides.
	Listen to this.
	A new report reveals illegal ingredients in knock-off weight loss drugs that are flooding into the United States.
	Shabir Imber Shaftar is the executive director of the Partnership for Safe Medicines and the co-author of this new report.
	He's joining me now live.
	Hello to you.
	So, illegal ingredients.
	Now, when you hear that, what is the first thing you think?
	Apparently nothing.
	You walked away.
	You walked away during my report!
	I didn't hear it.
	Are you peeing?
	You always forget that I have speakers.
	Do you have something else to do?
	Yeah, the phone was ringing off the hook.
	Well, we've been doing this show for over 17 years.
	Take it off the hook already.
	And I listened to the clip, and the clip was going on and on.
	And I said, well, this clip is going to go on long enough that I can walk over to the phone and take it off the hook, and you can hear it beeping back there.
	And then you come on with a question out of the blue.
	Oh, no!
	I thought we were doing a show, but oh, no!
	No! Okay, did you understand the question?
	Would you like me to restart the clip and do the question again?
	I heard the clip.
	I could hear the clip.
	The question was vague.
	I'll play the clip again because you...
	No, it's about what ingredients are illegal.
	You said what ingredients are illegal?
	No, I said when someone says an ingredient is illegal, this is a news report, what do you think that means?
	And what you just said is different than what I just said that you contradicted and said I didn't know what you were talking about?
	Answer the question, go.
	What do I think that means?
	Mark Levin!
	And so, go!
	The... What do I think it means?
	It means that something's toxic.
	Yes, that's my point.
	Thank you for answering the question correctly.
	You go on to our second round.
	Of this new report, he's joining me now live.
	Hello to you.
	Hello, and thank you for covering this critical safety information.
	I'm clearly a PR guy.
	He's not a doctor, he's a PR dude.
	Of course, you know, let's start with what you found and what your report reveals when it comes to these illegal weight loss drugs that are coming into the country.
	The whole thing is illegal.
	So in our report, we studied shipments of semaglutide and trisepatide, the active ingredients in these very popular weight loss medications that were coming into the country, and found that there were shipments that were declared as being made in factories that the FDA did not even know of, were not registered with the FDA, and certainly never inspected.
	And some of them were marked as for compounding, which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety.
	So it's not that they were toxic ingredients.
	They came from labs that the FDA had never heard of.
	So this is a PR move because it's just semaglutide.
	Which is a non-patentable peptide.
	But oh, they came from labs.
	The FDA is never...
	It's illegal!
	It's illegal!
	Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the...
	Oh boy, she really punches that one up.
	Yeah, she punched it up, didn't she?
	I like that.
	...
	which is a great concern of ours because there's been some issues with compounding these medicines and safety.
	Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the legal?
	It was in her script.
	I think it was italicized in her script.
	And really punch this one up because this guy's paying to be on.
	Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into the legal supply of these drugs, if that makes sense?
	It does make sense.
	We don't actually know enough because FDA does not publish where the shipments went.
	We only know that there were nearly 200 shipments that came in that were made in places that could never have been safe, even if they'd been known to the FDA.
	One was a JW Marriott.
	There was another one at a health fitness club and another one at a high school in Canada.
	And none of those could possibly even believably be.
	Oh, and then he adds safe.
	Legal or legitimate or safe.
	The message is, get your brand name drugs, everybody, get them now, because all of your Congress people have been paid off by them, according to RFK Jr.
	Today, over 100 members of Congress support a bill to fund Ozempic with Medicare at $1,500 a month.
	Most of these members have taken money from the manufacturer of that product, a European company called Novo Nordisk.
	As everyone knows, once a drug is approved for Medicare, it goes to Medicaid.
	And there is a push to recommend Ozempic for Americans as young as six over a condition of obesity that is completely preventable and barely even existed 100 years ago.
	Since 74% of Americans are obese, the cost of all of them, if they take their Ozempic prescription, will be $3 trillion a year.
	This is a drug that has made Novo Nordis the biggest company in Europe.
	It's a Danish company, but the Danish government does not recommend it.
	It recommends a change in diet to treat obesity and exercise.
	Virtually Novo Nordis' entire value is based upon its projections of what Ozempic is going to sell to Americans.
	For half the price of Ozempic, we could purchase regeneratively raised organic agriculture, organic food for every American, three meals a day, and gym membership for every obese American.
	Why are members of Congress doing the bidding of this Danish company instead of standing up for American farmers and children?
	Because Novo Nordisk is one of the largest funders of medical research, the media.
	And politicians and the medical schools all go along with them.
	I like the calculation.
	I think we should give away organic food, three meals a day to everybody, and a gym membership.
	I'm all for that.
	Put it on Medicare.
	Here's my Medicare card.
	Give me my beef.
	Talk is cheap, Bobby.
	Get on the stick already.
	Yeah, actually, I'm with you on this.
	Talk is cheap.
	Get on the stick.
	The main thing is, let's get these advertisers off the TV.
	For starters, which he's been threatening to do now.
	He came up in the conversation just recently, but there's still no action.
	The media, of course, won't be too happy about it.
	Why not?
	That's where half their income comes from.
	Oh, the media.
	I thought you said Mimi.
	I'm like, why would Mimi be upset with that?
	I have screaming Mimis in my brain ever since you said it.
	Screaming Mimi is a phrase.
	Yes, I've never heard it.
	I've learned something.
	There's been a rumor going around, and people like, I think, Zero Hedge even published it.
	No, Unusual Whales.
	There you go.
	There's a rumor that he's going to do it.
	He's going to do it.
	He's going to ban big pharma advertising.
	But I think that started with a parody account on X. Which a lot of people...
	Well, he promised he's going to do it.
	Was it a true promise?
	It's one of the three.
	But let me just...
	Okay, I want to say one...
	What was it?
	Advertising. Let's listen to it again.
	I'm not intimidated by the agencies.
	I know how they work and I know how to change them.
	And most of those changes you do not need Congress for.
	The President and President Trump could have done it, had the power to do it himself, and President Biden has the power to do it himself.
	And I'll give you an example.
	With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct-to-consumer ads on television.
	That's one of the big problems.
	That's one of the reasons we have this entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news.
	Seventy-five percent of the revenues for those evening news shows are, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies, and those companies are dictating content on those shows, and they dictate the official narratives.
	And I have another clip here where he talked about it on Rogan.
	You know, ambitions have completely subsumed the regulatory function of those agencies, and that has to end.
	You know, one of the things that we need to do, too, is to get rid of pharmaceutical advertising on television.
	There's only two countries in the world that allow it.
	One is New Zealand.
	The other is our country.
	Everybody who is knowledgeable is against it.
	And it not only has compromised public health.
	We take largely because of that advertising.
	We take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans take.
	And drugs are the number three killer in our country.
	Pharmaceutical drugs are the number three killer after cancer and heart attacks.
	They're not making us healthier.
	We spend more on healthcare.
	4.3 trillion in the country in the world in terms of our health outcomes.
	Insufferable. All of these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is not making us safe.
	And, you know, we changed the rule in 1997.
	Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, you couldn't advertise on TV.
	We changed those rules, and FDA allowed the pharmaceutical companies to...
	And they not only now have a platform from which they can tell everybody, you're sick, you need this, you need that.
	But also, they are able to dictate content on television.
	So they can dictate content on the local news.
	And on YouTube.
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay. Get to it, Bobby.
	Yeah, we're waiting.
	Yeah, because then we can finally get some big pharma ads on the podcast.
	Oh, John, I just got my Ozempic.
	I'm feeling great.
	I'm down 8,000 pounds.
	I heard a drug advertised on the radio the other day, like Restora or something.
	They have some more recent ones.
	I guess they're recording some of these because they're pushing a lot of drugs onto the TV that I've never heard of.
	They're all new, and they've got the worst side effects.
	And the worst names.
	The names are really bad and the side effects are just off the...
	They're wild.
	Let me think what this was called.
	It restores your muscle mass when you're on GLP-1 drugs.
	Wow. It's called steroids.
	No, no, no.
	What was it called?
	I think it was called...
	It was something like Restora.
	Do you like being thin, but your legs are breaking?
	We've got Restora!
	Oh man, it's so bad.
	And that was kind of my point when I saw the card.
	I was like, get your Botox, get your lip fillers.
	They gave you a...
	This is like a shaggy dog story now.
	I should have taken it with me.
	We're back at...
	You didn't take the card with you?
	No. It's got a cute woman.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	You go on and on about how great it is to go to Austin.
	It's always worth the price of admission.
	You give me grief for just even suggesting anything and then you leave the card?
	I know.
	I feel very bad about that.
	You should.
	Maybe I can find her.
	Injection nurse Austin.
	So there's an injection nurse at your hairdresser.
	Well, she comes in.
	And here, 63 nurse injector jobs available in Austin, Texas.
	This is, wow, $29 to $56 an hour injection nurse jobs in Austin.
	Now hiring!
	Wow, it's called an aesthetic nurse.
	So they come in in Botox shell or give you some GLP-1 in the gut?
	Well, that's the upsell.
	What else can they shoot you up with?
	Steroids? Or can they do anything else that's worthwhile?
	Well, I think that's the upsell.
	The Austin nurse, this is the Austin nurse, concierge injection specialist.
	It's concierge.
	Concierge. I love that.
	Here we go.
	The Austin nurse is an experienced injection specialist committed to providing excellence in concierge injection administration and training.
	We provide help with fertility medications, anticoagulants, semaglutides like Ozempic, blood glucose, and insulin injectors, and more!
	Yeah. So she'll come to your house.
	She's got a blog.
	Nice. Yeah.
	But this is the thing.
	This is what people are doing.
	You've heard of Botox parties, certainly.
	No. Yeah.
	Women actually talk in MLs.
	How many MLs did you get?
	As in milliliters?
	Yeah, every milliliter.
	How many MLs?
	Oh, I got 10 MLs.
	What do you charge per ML?
	Oh, it's only $79 per ML.
	It's sad.
	All women are fake.
	Not a single one is unbotoxed.
	I'm just guessing.
	I think there's plenty of un-Botox gals out there.
	Yeah? What do you think about Pam Bondage?
	Oh, she's definitely got Botox in the forehead.
	Do you ever see her raise her eyebrows?
	Nope. Ever?
	Nope. Even when she said, top guy!
	The eyebrows did not move.
	Top guy.
	Top guy.
	And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in shaking the chain, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the legendary, Mr. John C. We may not make another four years, John. Only 1890 today.
	That's average to me.
	Your numbers are off, because ever since you started giving me crap about it, I started tracking it.
	Yeah, and 18 is the classic and 24 on Sunday.
	No, the last 100 show average is 1904.
	Yeah, well, that's not the number I've ever heard.
	Yeah, but I'm looking at the numbers, baby.
	I got the numbers.
	Yeah, you got numbers, but they're not the numbers you've been reading for the last 10 years.
	Yes! When you do the numbers, you can go back and listen to the past shows.
	It's 1600, 1700, 1800, 1800, 1800.
	The number of times you've said 1900 for a Thursday show is so low.
	It's like maybe once every few months, but somehow it's the average.
	I call bogus.
	You can call whatever you want.
	Bogus. Speaking of...
	Of old shows.
	I have a throwback.
	You want to do a special bonus clip?
	Sure. I have to play the setup clip first.
	And the setup clip is something that we all probably heard about.
	A year from now, 23andMe will be...
	A year from now, 23andMe will be growing and thriving.
	Five years from now, 23andMe will transform healthcare.
	That was Ann Wojcicki, CEO of the genetic testing company 23andMe.
	She told us that back in November, and now there's word that Ann has resigned and 23andMe has filed for bankruptcy protection.
	Nancy Chin is here with What This Means for Customers.
	Nancy, when I woke up to this this morning, I was so...
	Sad and disappointed here because I know how hard Ann worked and I know how much she loves this company.
	And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time.
	So big surprising news for many.
	No one loved the company for a long time.
	I love 23andMe.
	I love this company.
	I use their services all the time, every couple weeks.
	I love this company.
	It makes no sense.
	And there's a lot of customers who have also loved it for a long time.
	So big surprising news for many.
	The DNA testing company 23andMe has been facing serious financial challenges for months now.
	Last fall, it announced major corporate restructuring, and that's when concerns of what could happen to users' data started surfacing.
	On Friday, the Attorney General of California, where 23andMe is headquarter, urged customers to request their information be purged.
	He says they should consider invoking their rights and directing the company to delete their data and destroy samples of their genetic material.
	He said if 23andMe were involved in a bankruptcy, merger, or sale, personal data may also be sold or transferred.
	Oh, say it ain't so.
	Really? Episode 599 of the best podcast in the universe, September 29th, 2013, is when we gave our first of many warnings about this.
	Here's what I want you to be cognizant of.
	When you sign up for 23andMe and you get on your little social network and sharing your little genetic defects...
	Be wary as to who else has that information, and at some point in the future, Bill Gates might be going, Is that you?
	Yes, that's me.
	What a muddy mic.
	This is dangerous.
	Well, to be fair, it was 12 years ago.
	I didn't have the great mic that we soon will be selling to everybody.
	You walked right into that one, pal.
	I did.
	Here, let me get a couple more softballs here to toss you.
	How about a book?
	How about a book?
	Oh, man.
	Or just the website.
	Since we're doing a donation segment, dvorak.org is not where you want to go.
	You want to go to...
	You can go there.
	It's got stuff you can click on.
	It's got outdated links.
	The PayPal links don't work anymore.
	Come on.
	Okay, I'm fixing that site tomorrow.
	If you don't fix it...
	Doubting Thomas.
	There you go.
	I will stick my finger in the holes.
	If it's not fixed, I'm not doing a show.
	That's it.
	I'm done.
	I'm boycotting the show if you don't fix the website.
	Thank you, trolls, who are hanging out in the troll room.
	Everyone's writing it down in their own red books.
	Yeah, there you go.
	The trolls are listening at trollroom.io, or perhaps they are even on one of those modern podcast apps, which are quite swanky indeed.
	They're very swanky.
	People are like, wow, what app is that?
	Oh, that's my modern podcast app, of course.
	Oh, that's beautiful.
	What does it do?
	Well, it alerts me when my favorite shows go live, including on the No Agenda stream.
	And you can listen to it live in the app.
	What? You can do that in that app, in a podcast app?
	Oh, yeah.
	And when my favorite podcasts, when they publish a show, within 90 seconds, I know exactly.
	It's there.
	Boom, I get an alert.
	What? I'm on Apple, and sometimes it takes hours!
	That's why you want to go to podcastapps.com, everybody.
	It's Enhancements, brought to you by the friendly folks at podcastindex.org.
	Value for value is how we continue to somehow muddle through our last four years, or our four more years, I should say.
	People send me links like, you said that when Trump won the first time.
	That's correct.
	But now we mean it, for real.
	Four more years.
	So we don't have ads.
	Although people have found some interesting loopholes in our system.
	Yes, they have.
	Loopholes indeed.
	Some really good loopholes.
	People are like, hey man, I'm making the killing of my business through that no agenda show.
	It's fantastic.
	Here's what you do.
	You become an executive producer.
	Or, sadly, cheap associate executive producers.
	Cheap associate.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	The loophole is phenomenal.
	I love it.
	The way you can support the show is multi-pronged.
	You can support us with your time, your talent, or your treasure.
	And time and talent, you know, people send clip ideas.
	It always helps when they send time codes.
	That's really highly appreciated.
	People do organized meetups.
	They do jingles and show mixes.
	There's tons of stuff that people do.
	Run servers for us everywhere.
	Servers are running everywhere, like noagendaartgenerator.com, which is where you can upload.
	And it's had its ups and downs throughout the years.
	But generally, I mean, I don't have to maintain it.
	I'd say it's a good deal for us.
	We don't have to hire someone to maintain it.
	And then we have the artists themselves.
	Who create this artwork for us, and then we use that to draw attention to the show.
	It makes us look fresh every single time.
	And we looked funky fresh with the artwork for episode 1749.
	We titled that show Gynocracy, or as I like to say, Gynocracy.
	And it was Sir Shug, a.k.a.
	Foe Diddley, who came in with the winning piece that we picked.
	The Flexibilize live from Ursula Studios.
	It was a poppy piece.
	You know, it was definitely related to the show.
	And it popped all kinds of, you know, boys and girls dancing.
	Did you get the note from the woman who used to be a jazzercise person and sent the original art?
	No. Oh, yeah.
	One of our producers had something to do with the original art, which was jazzercise.
	Really? It had the same dancers, only they were kind of different, slightly different.
	No way.
	And the same basic logo.
	This is where it came from.
	Oh, so it's a rip-off!
	It's a rip-off.
	She thought it was a compliment.
	Well, of course it's a compliment.
	That's so cool.
	But it was a rip-off, but I'm wondering whether Sir Shug developed it by hand, because to do a rip-off, you have to have the original, and you develop a kind of a copy of it, or AI actually copied it.
	Could be, could be.
	I got an AI story for you for later.
	I saw you have AI clips.
	I have a couple of AI clips.
	Good. When you do your clips, I'll bring the story.
	I don't know about that.
	I do.
	I'm in control.
	Who's driving?
	You're like the DEI hire on this show.
	I'm the shotgun.
	You're the DEI hire.
	I'm the DEI guy.
	Shut up.
	No laughing.
	No laughing.
	So we appreciate that.
	Of course, we use many of the pieces of art for our chapter artwork, which Dreb Scott diligently does for every single show.
	We appreciate that very much.
	We looked at a couple other things.
	Creepy was Helmet Hair by Blue Acorn, which was Ursula.
	That was an AI job, but that was pretty interesting how it turned out.
	Yes, everybody liked to harangue me about, oh, the Hague is the new Dutch capital.
	It's not Amsterdam.
	That's actually contentious.
	We talked about it after the show.
	It's not a pure capital.
	No, it turns out that there's two capitals of Holland.
	Yes. And it turns out, and we also did a little research after the show, and it turns out that there's about ten countries that have dual capitals.
	Because the technical description of a capital is where the government has its seat.
	Oh, that was the term.
	It was a strange term.
	Yeah, we looked at it.
	I think we used AI to do the research.
	Really? I think you used ChatGPT.
	You're talking about it.
	You're always doing that.
	That's exactly what I want to talk about when you play your AI clips.
	There was a term.
	I can't remember what the term was.
	Yeah. So, yeah, Holland has two capitals.
	The origin of this capital confusion goes back to the Middle Ages back then.
	The Hague were the seat of the government for the country of Holland and the courts of Holland.
	Amsterdam was just your ordinary up-and-coming center of trade.
	Anyway, fine.
	All right, fine, everybody.
	Do funny artwork.
	I'm good.
	I'll say I was wrong.
	I'll say I was wrong.
	You were wrong.
	Technically, the capital is where the government seats.
	What else did we have?
	There was deepfake nudes.
	No, there was e-meter girls.
	Got a nice note.
	We got a couple of notes from Scientologists.
	Hello, Scientologists.
	Yeah, we have a number of Scientologists that were chuckling about our e-meter.
	Even the producer who gave us the e-meters, he still listens.
	I love that.
	Yeah, I think that's funny.
	Yeah, the thing is, it turns out...
	We didn't mention this necessarily, but I forgot about it.
	He says his dad was a big shot in Scientology and he had a bunch of these e-meters and he couldn't sell them, get rid of them after his dad died because if you try to sell them on eBay, the Scientology community goes after you and makes life miserable.
	Oh no.
	They knock on your door and say, hey!
	Don't give away our technology.
	And so the guy says, hell with it.
	I'll just send them to these two bozos.
	And so he sends us a couple of these e-meters.
	And we still have them.
	We still have them.
	Within reach.
	Right. I'm using them all the time.
	So I got another note from another Scientologist who made the point.
	He said you should charge the e-meter to make the battery last longer because we probably haven't charged the thing ever.
	No, I have not.
	Oh, I should do that.
	Also, I got another note from...
	And I shouldn't say he's a Scientologist, but people who are members of the Church of Scientology.
	So that would be a Scientologist?
	Yeah, well, that's not how he introduced himself.
	And he said, you have a lot of...
	Okay, I'll use your term.
	You have a lot of Scientologists listening to the show because there's a big crossover with you guys between your stance on vaccines, etc., other pharmaceutical products.
	Then there was something else.
	Your desire to have tax-free income, I think, was the other thing.
	I'm not sure.
	It was something like that.
	It makes sense.
	So, hello.
	Hello, Scientologists.
	You're welcome.
	Everybody's welcome here.
	Yeah. We've never had a problem with anybody.
	At least we got some free e-meters.
	Hey, it beats a punch in the head.
	Free e-meter.
	Like I said, I got the e-meter, but we didn't get the pretty girl with it.
	That's what it was.
	So thank you very much, Sir Shug, a.k.a.
	Foe Diddley.
	We appreciate your support of the show, as always.
	And that brings us to our executive and associate executive producers.
	We'd like to thank them separately, just like Hollywood does.
	You know, I watched another movie.
	I watched Flight Risk, which is Mark Wahlberg.
	Is this another movie you watch without Tina?
	Because she doesn't watch these kinds of movies?
	The last Wahlberg movie you watch was pretty dumb.
	So I think if I had suggested another one, she might not have gone for it.
	But it was really good.
	And a lot of it took place in a Cessna airplane.
	And at the end, boom, credits.
	Executive producer and director, Mel Gibson.
	Like, wow.
	He's running for governor.
	Of what state?
	California. Really?
	Yep. Wow.
	I think he might be able to even get the job.
	Wow. Wow.
	Because if Kamala Harris runs, there's going to be a backlash against her because nobody likes her.
	No. And people always like, you know, let's give him a shot.
	How bad could it be?
	It's Mel.
	He's pretty successful with movies.
	Yeah, he knows what he's doing.
	So we thank everybody, $50 and above, so you can keep track at home if you feel called to do that.
	But we really just like to thank people and share with you the support that they have given because it does keep the show going for four more years.
	$200 or above, you get a credit, like Hollywood, an associate executive producer credit, and that is good for your lifetime.
	You can use it anywhere, put it anywhere.
	If anyone questions that, we will vouch for you.
	You can use it on your resume as an example.
	$300 and above, we will give an executive producer credit, and in both cases, we'll read your note if it's within reason and not too long.
	Oh, we've got a long one here today, I see.
	And that gives you the same credit which you can then use on imdb.com.
	So we'll start off with our first and top guy, top executive producer of episode 1750, the Archduke of Central Florida.
	I don't remember his actual pre-Duke name, but he lives in Winter Park, Florida.
	And he came in with, actually he gets a double credit for this because he also gets a show number donation, $17.50.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	Which he says, heretofore known as the Blofeld donation from Archduke of Central Florida.
	Keep up the Queen Ursula clips.
	Very informative.
	Five more years, he says.
	Oh, he's skimping.
	Five more years.
	Five more years.
	Well, if we get more people that...
	Donated $17.50 every show.
	We'd probably do five more years.
	Explain the Blofeld donation.
	I forgot.
	I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	What is Blofeld?
	Blofeld was one of the evil characters in the early James Bond movies.
	Stavros Blofeld.
	He always used to have a big white cat and he would wear this gray outfit and he had a scar on his face and he was bald and he was nasty.
	Thank you very much, Archduke of Central Florida.
	And yes, we will now call this the Blofeld Donation, $17.50.
	Clifford Remersma.
	Remersma. Remersma in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	$3.50.93.
	Just bought a pair of work boots for $330.
	Wow. I figure it's time to invest in another luxury that helps me through the workday.
	Oh. That's the show.
	The No Agenda Show.
	That's 333.33 plus fees.
	Wow. Two-thirds to the knighthood.
	Two-thirds of the way to the knighthood.
	Could I get a relationship karma, please?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	He totally understands the system.
	You've got karma.
	That's exactly how you should see the show.
	He got something out of it, and he put it right back in.
	That's the value model right there.
	Yeah, he looked at his shoes.
	He said, these are $300, and they're going to protect me.
	He probably has steel toes.
	And he said, well, you know what?
	This is protecting my brain.
	I have one rule, which Tina and I adhere to.
	If you're using anything on a daily basis, you might as well get a good one.
	So if it's a mattress, if it's a pillow, If it's your cutting board, if it's things that you use every single day, and if you're listening to a podcast twice a week for a total of over six hours, you might as well make sure it continues.
	You want it to be the best podcast in the universe, so you need to support us.
	That's my logic.
	I think that's a good one.
	333.33 from Meister Chit Chat in Russellville, Arkansas.
	And he has a very complicated note.
	Good evening or morning salutations, amazing gentlemen.
	Okay. More brevity is appreciated.
	Thank you for your service.
	I'd like that.
	It's courage.
	I'd like to clarify my previous donation was a 333.33 switcheroo with fees included.
	So is this one.
	Miss Eclectic Chit Chat of Harmony Homestead.
	This donation is also a switcheroo for the same Miss Chit Chat.
	Okay, so let me put...
	Mrs. Chit Chat.
	Mrs. Chit Chat.
	Let me put in Mrs. Chit Chat.
	There we go.
	I must make it clear that we engage corporately without prejudice for our firstborn to be named after you without prejudice.
	Our son will be named Gabriel Nolan of God, a hero or champion.
	Thanks to you and four more years, he will be instrumental in bringing more souls to the Creator during this time of turmoil.
	Is your name Gabriel?
	I guess.
	Adam Gabriel Curry.
	Thank you both and all of No Agenda Nation.
	We can begin the next phase of our parentage after four years of IVF effort.
	Oh, wow, all right.
	Expensive and tedious, yes.
	No success until we underwent a dedouching.
	A dedouching did it!
	And Blupron endometriosis treatment.
	I think it was the dedouching.
	My wife is now over one-third of motherhood and two-third damehood.
	If you're an Alaskan needing dental work, check out MustachioDDS.com.
	Mustachioddds.com Mustachioddds.com I'm guessing he's got a mustache.
	We make your teeth look good.
	Needing psychiatric help?
	RPI? Or looking for off-grid or gardening help?
	Harmony Homestead on Facebook or Snapchat.
	Wow, that is a broad spectrum of services.
	Sorry for the obtuse note.
	Use ITM on the phone for a stackable 10% discount on total treatment plan at Atkins Dental Clinic.
	Whew! No jingles, no karma.
	Everything above was long enough, he says.
	Yes, Sir Meister Chit Chat of Harmony Hosted.
	Holmes said, thank you.
	Thank you, Sir Meister Chit Chat.
	Great note.
	Very entertaining.
	Well, let's contrast that with Chap Williams in Edmond, Oklahoma, who came with 333.33.
	That was a check with no note, and so he gets a double up karma.
	Oh, and here we go.
	Double up for the karmas.
	You've got...
	Double up!
	Karma. And 333 from Sir Tanley.
	Sir Tanley.
	Port Orange, Florida.
	ITM gents, so much to say, so little time, so I'll keep it short.
	Keep up the good work, boys.
	You've kept me listening twice a week since 2016.
	And this donation is a switcheroo for my wife, Stormy.
	All right, switcheroo has been engaged.
	Happy 17th anniversary, babe.
	You are my ride or die.
	A family that no agendas together stays together.
	And the weather app we've been working on has finally hit the Apple App Store.
	You want to try your hand at predicting the weather in your hometown?
	Then install Weather Champs.
	Win forecast coins.
	Enter sweepstakes and be crowned the Weather Champ.
	Use code WEATHERFRIEND for 50% off an annual subscription.
	Coming to Android in the next few weeks.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Sir Tanley, the weather champ.
	Oh, well, when it's on Android, let me know.
	I'll try it out.
	The weather champ.
	And I can win forecast coins, John.
	Yeah, good.
	You can use them.
	Eli the Coffee Guy is up.
	He's in Bensonville, Illinois.
	$3.20.
	And he says, well, news agency...
	You guys railed against the administration for deporting an innocent pro-Palestine activist for exercising his free speech.
	You guys called out Mahmoud Khalil for being a spook?
	That's a type of deconstruction that makes No Agenda truly the best podcast in the universe.
	Thank you for the insight.
	Jingle, spot the spook?
	George Clooney's a spy for producers, by the way.
	Spooks or otherwise.
	In need of great coffee, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
	Stay caffeinated.
	Eli the Coffee Guy.
	I spot the spook.
	Spot the spook.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	George Clooney.
	Is a spy.
	Man, I really get them today, don't I?
	Dame Mary Moon, Prairieville, Louisiana.
	Yes, you get everyone.
	This is the best day ever.
	$200 associate executive producership for her.
	And it's a switcheroo for my hubby, Sir Juclaw.
	Okay, all right, Sir Juclaw.
	All right, so we'll put Sir Juclaw in there.
	Perfect. Welp, good job on the No Agenda artwork you picked on Sunday.
	Oh, we were just talking about it.
	It prompted my donation.
	See, this is why time, talent, treasure works.
	It works in so many different ways, sometimes unexpected.
	I'm not sure if you realize it or not.
	Possibly it will be discussed on Thursday.
	But the graphic is clearly a knockoff.
	Oh, this is the note.
	Of the original Jazzercise artwork.
	Jazzercise. I'm sending you the original so you can compare the similarities.
	I'm not mad about the similarities.
	Quite the contrary.
	I have been a Jazzercise instructor for 15 years, and I own two Jazzercise studios in South Louisiana.
	It is the best workout program around.
	Ladies of no agenda nation, head over to your local Jazzercise studio.
	We have 8,000 locations.
	What? I need to get the Fredericksburg franchise license.
	We have 8,000 locations and we're in nearly every state in over 110 countries to experience the original dance fitness workout.
	I've been making people dance, sweat, and smile for over 55 years.
	By the way, guys, you too can take our classes.
	We don't discriminate.
	We're not the ginocracy.
	Thanks, John and Adam, and the artists who donated their time and talent for making my morning a little sunnier when I saw the artwork pop up.
	That's from Dame Mary Moon.
	How about that?
	There it is.
	So that's why I never saw the note, because I didn't get it.
	That's what happened there.
	It's amazing, the people that listen to this show.
	We have.
	And produce it.
	Yeah, we do.
	We do have amazing.
	Including Linda Lupatkins, who's in Lakewood, Colorado, and she came up with 200 bucks and asks for Jobs Karma.
	And says, for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	And there it is again.
	Another long note with a switcheroo.
	This is crazy.
	This is crazy.
	Switcheroo. This is from Caitlin Meyer of Los Angeles, California.
	And switcheroo for Lady Linda of Los Angeles.
	Mira que bura!
	Happy birthday!
	And that is today, so on the list.
	Your cara de chucho face of a brother and his wife are putting in the big one for you, so don't ever say we did nothing for you.
	We're taking a note from Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and Writer of Resumes, and Eli the Coffee Guy, and giving you a big shout-out in front of the best podcast listeners in the universe.
	That's interesting.
	Now we have people who use a service or a product advertising it.
	This is great.
	That's a double switcheroo.
	And Caitlin Meyer asks, Have you got money on your mind?
	Why? Let Lady Linda get your money to work for you.
	If you peruse Instagram for your next overseas adventure, flip those magazines in the waiting room and see for yourself on that tranquil shoreline and get your finances in order.
	The money you have today can start working to send you there tomorrow.
	Contact Linda.
	She cares and she's good.
	That's linda.gata at nm.com.
	Linda.gata, G-A-E-T-A at nm.com.
	Wow! I might have to withdraw the money from Horowitz and give it to Linda.
	Because she cares and she's good.
	We request jobs, Karma, for the birthday girl.
	Here's to another great trip around the sun.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma. Wow.
	That was pretty amazing.
	Very interesting executive and associate executive producers.
	Thank you so much for supporting the No Agenda Show, episode 1750.
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	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
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	Screams Alright, two little quick fun clips.
	Two little quick fun clips.
	Quickies. Little quickies.
	Little quickies.
	Sure. A little AOC gaffe.
	And this isn't just about Republicans.
	We need a Democratic Party that fights harder for us, too.
	You're a future president, ladies and gentlemen.
	AOC. Yeah, she's thinking of it.
	That's what's on her mind.
	And then this one from Jasmine Crockett.
	Everyone's losing their mind over this.
	I think this is way overblown.
	A congresswoman from North Texas is causing controversy over recent comments she made about Governor Abbott.
	Fox's Stephen Dial explains.
	Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is being called out by other elected officials for her comments last Saturday at a human rights campaign event.
	Y'all know we got Governor High Wheels down there.
	Come on now.
	And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot mess.
	Referring to Governor Greg Abbott as Hot Wheels, Abbott was partially paralyzed when a tree fell on him decades ago.
	I think this is stupid.
	It's actually a cool name.
	I think Governor Hot Wheels is pretty funny.
	Everybody, oh, outrage.
	Oh, I can't believe she said that she made fun of the man in the wheelchair.
	How hypocritical is that?
	Like, when Trump makes fun of people's ears and eyes and height and whatever, oh, it's great.
	This is actually, I have to say, as a nickname, I think it's pretty cool.
	I'm going to call him Governor Hot Wheels from now on.
	Okay. What did you think?
	Did you think anything of this at all?
	I know everybody talked about this.
	I think you're right.
	It was overblown.
	I think it was kind of at the...
	She gave it a human rights convention, which I think that was the wrong audience.
	Well, there's that.
	I mean, it was like, you know, ableist kind of thing.
	Wow! You are the DEI hire.
	You use the term ableist?
	Yeah, just because that's the nature of when she says it.
	I think the venue was wrong, and so she wasn't thinking.
	But she's a dummy, so who cares what she says?
	It still was funny.
	It is funny, and I think High Wheels is a good nickname for the guy.
	Yeah, and from now on...
	Although I never see him moving very fast in that thing.
	Well, that's kind of the funny part.
	It's like, this is what you do.
	You give people nicknames based upon their physical appearance.
	We do this all the time on the show.
	Yes, we do it all the time.
	Okay. But we're not in front of a human rights convention.
	Well, we are in front of Scientologists.
	Yeah, it's true.
	We get the Scientologists.
	We haven't really given anyone grief.
	No. Do they really donate to Scientologists?
	You know, it's a good question.
	We'll have to take a look.
	I'll have to go back to some research.
	Let's do a little couple.
	I got a couple of clips which have kind of a little gotcha in here that I think is worth talking about.
	This is about religious quitting.
	This is on NPDES special and people are brought up in a religion and they quit.
	People around the world are switching religions or leaving religion altogether.
	A new study from Pew Research finds that large portions of adults no longer practice the faith in which they were raised.
	Pew surveyed nearly 80,000 people in 36 countries.
	NPR religion correspondent Jason DeRose reports.
	Switching is especially common in East Asia, Europe, and the Americas.
	Kirsten Lesage is the study's lead author.
	Out of the 36 countries that we surveyed in, the three countries with the highest rates of religious switching are South Korea, Spain, and Canada.
	In South Korea, Pew found that 50% of respondents had changed religions.
	In Spain, 40% said they'd left their childhood faith.
	In Canada, the number is 38%.
	By comparison, in the U.S., 28% switched.
	The sage says two religions were most affected.
	The religious groups that have had the largest losses from religious switching are Christianity and Buddhism.
	The sage says the change is particularly acute in parts of Europe.
	For example, Italy has the highest ratio of people leaving to people joining Christianity.
	For every one person who becomes Christian, about 28 Italians are leaving the religion.
	The biggest gains were among those who have no religious affiliation, which is a group that includes atheists, agnostics, and those who describe themselves as nothing individual.
	So it's not the case that people are necessarily switching from one religion to the next.
	For example, there's not a lot of switching from Christianity into Islam.
	Rather, Lesage says, most switching is people leaving religion altogether.
	Yeah, well, this is an interesting choice of words, but maybe I should hold my white Christian nationalist perspective until the second clip?
	Yeah, I would say because I have the sense that they're trying to slam the Christians here in some funny way, and I think the second clip has an exemplification of that.
	And it's a tricky one, and we'll listen to it, and I'll ask you a question.
	Ooh, a question.
	Well, let me go and walk away from the microphone, so at least we're fair.
	Meanwhile, specific religions in some countries appear to be stickier than others.
	You found very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all people who were raised...
	Wait, joined or left Islam?
	Very few people leave Islam.
	First, Pew found very small percentages of the overall adult population have left or joined Islam in most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all people who were raised Hindu in India and Bangladesh still identify as Hindu today.
	Judaism's retention rate is also high.
	In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as Jewish.
	In the U.S., 76% of those raised Jewish still identify that way today, with most American Jews who've left the faith now identifying as unaffiliated.
	Pew also found that 19% of U.S.
	adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously unaffiliated.
	Jason DeRose, NPR News.
	All right.
	Interesting report from Pew.
	So I'm going to ask you the question.
	Okay. In the United States than Jews.
	Oh, I can answer the first question, but the second one, well, you are a Jew that's not just a religion.
	They consider themselves to be part of a population group and also not white.
	Well, wrong.
	According to Pew, what did Pew say?
	Pew said that more Jews Then Christians have left the faith in the United States.
	But you heard it differently, didn't you?
	I sure did.
	The fact that you could try to answer a question that was a misleading question based on what you thought you heard.
	Wow. Do I need to listen to that again to hear it correctly?
	I'll explain what they did and then you can listen again.
	That was really good.
	What they did was they did the old switch where they gave you the wrong side of the equation and you had to do the math.
	In your head to understand what the leaving rate was.
	Wow. And then they gave you the right side of the equation.
	This is NPR, by the way.
	And then they gave you the right side of the equation for the Christian part of it.
	In fact, if you listen carefully, 24% of the Jews left and 19% of the Christians left the faith.
	Let me hear this.
	Is it in the second clip or in the first clip?
	It's in the second clip right at the end.
	Let me move it forward a little bit.
	That was...
	Wow! I got duped!
	I guess I'll go back a little bit.
	Not good.
	Okay. You also found that 19% of U.S. adults raised as Christian now identify as religiously affiliated.
	Jason DeRose, NPR News.
	Good catch!
	Wow! I teased this early in the show.
	With the half a decade?
	With the half a decade.
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is the kind of stuff that NPR pulls.
	There's no reason for them to do it that way.
	To say 76% and then...
	And then 19% left for the Christian side.
	It gives you the sense that the Christians are bailing out.
	And in fact, the opposite is actually true.
	And that's why you thought you answered a question that really was a faulty question based on the bull crap.
	Wow. Thank you.
	That was very good.
	That is media deconstruction at its finest.
	I tip my hat to you, sir.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	I will say the thing that I was focused on is the term religion.
	Religion. I am not religious.
	I do not belong to a religion.
	And also when they say, well, all these Christians in Rome, well, you know, their religion is Catholicism.
	It is in fact, and I do track this and I talk to different pastors about this, we are seeing record numbers of people leaving the Baptist Church and the Catholic Church and they're going non-denominational or just Are believers and have faith.
	So I think the whole study is somewhat skewed because if you actually look at the Zoomers, they're buying Bibles like no one else's business.
	It's up over 20% in the past year.
	Yeah, I think that's veering off what the topic was.
	I think they were specifically talking about religion.
	I know, but people who are atheists or non-believers, when they hear religion, they think, oh, church people.
	But I go to a church, but it's not a religion.
	Organized religion, if anything, is a problem, in my opinion.
	And it's not been good for the Pope!
	Italian doctor who led the hospital team that cared for Pope Francis is giving new insight into the seriousness of the Pope's recent health battle.
	Professor Sergio Alfieri told an Italian newspaper that doctors considered ending his treatment.
	The critical moment came on February 28th when the Pope had a breathing crisis.
	The choice was whether to stop treatment and let him pass or try more aggressive drugs and therapies that come with a very high risk of damaging other organs.
	Man, we didn't hear that report that he almost died.
	It was all like, oh, he's going to be okay.
	He just inhaled some puke.
	It's okay.
	It's all right.
	The Pope was aware that there was a chance that he might not survive the night, according to the doctor, who was then instructed to try everything and not give up.
	Back here at home, Dr. David Manoff at Temple University Hospital Jeans Campus says this type of scenario is not uncommon.
	Really, really sick and in an ICU, sometimes some of the things that we really have to do are to prioritize what the most life-threatening organ failure is going to be at that time, even if some of the things that we do potentially come at the potential for injury to other organ systems.
	So Dr. Manoff says the Pope has a long road to recovery.
	Pope Francis was discharged on Sunday after 38 days in the hospital.
	Man, that was pretty serious.
	It gives me more time to think about the next pope.
	Yeah, that's a break for you.
	I'm narrowing it down as three candidates.
	Three candidates.
	I'm getting close.
	I'm not even going to ask you to tease it.
	No. International news just a little bit?
	International news, everybody.
	Wait a minute.
	I'm guessing maybe it is the BBC World Service.
	Yes. This is good stuff.
	Now, all hell is breaking loose and we're not being told about.
	It's amazing, actually.
	Let's start with South Sudan.
	The UN mission in South Sudan has warned that the arrest of First Vice President Riak Machar has brought the country to the brink of another civil war.
	The renewed political violence began last month.
	Paddy Maguire reports.
	The arrest of President Salva Keir's long-term rival at his residence in Juba is a dramatic escalation.
	In a statement, the head of UNMISS said rising tensions between factions loyal to Mr Machar, a former rebel leader, and the forces of Mr Keir were jeopardizing the 2018 peace agreement.
	Nearly 400,000 people died in five years of devastating civil war before the power-sharing deal was signed.
	As that deal unravels and the violence escalates, some 50,000 South Sudanese Oh, will they be passionate at the universities about this?
	No, of course not.
	They don't care.
	Nobody cares about this stuff.
	So here we go.
	The other one is Pakistan.
	Oh, I also have an Africa clip, actually.
	Pakistan, okay.
	Senior police in Balochistan say at least six people were killed on Wednesday in a spate of coordinated attacks in Pakistan's restless southwestern province.
	According to the French news agency, police accused gunmen of targeting bus passengers on the basis of their ethnicity.
	A member of the security forces was among those killed.
	Local press reported explosions and trucks being set on fire in various parts of the province.
	Separatist insurgents have stepped up their activity against Pakistani security forces in recent weeks.
	No protest about that either.
	Yeah, no one cares about that.
	Except us.
	And the Sudan thing is even funnier about people not caring.
	400,000 people killed?
	No. Who cares?
	Who cares?
	Interesting. Do we have the same clip here?
	Because I have one Africa clip.
	Because, you know, manga make Africa news great again.
	This USAID Uganda BBC?
	Well, let's try it.
	As a federal judge in the US blocks the Trump administration from taking further steps to shut down the US Agency for International Development, we'll be asking what that means in practice for people on the ground running health programs in Uganda.
	Ah, well I happen to have an answer.
	Well there you go.
	Yes, and this answer in the Africa News segment from the No Agenda World Service.
	We should do our own thing.
	Now from the No Agenda World Service we go to Africa.
	And what do we learn in Africa?
	This is from the former African Union ambassador to the United States.
	Her name is Arekana Chihomburi Kwao.
	You need to understand the real reason why USAID is in Africa.
	And not just USAID, but other NGOs.
	You look at DFID, which is the British equivalent, and many other smaller ones.
	Their sole purpose was to act as if.
	They're coming to rescue Africa.
	They are coming in claiming that they are introducing grassroots initiatives that are going to help the people.
	And so they use that as a way to go into the most remote parts of Africa.
	When you look at it on paper, it all looks really good.
	But they're actually wolf in sheep's clothing.
	They are using that open access, sounding humanitarian.
	To constantly destabilize governments.
	I can tell you right now, the majority of African leaders, and not just African leaders, but leaders in the developing world, are celebrating the exit of USAID.
	If you think about it, their sole purpose, for example, filling in the gaps in healthcare and education.
	Where is the change?
	Show me one country that USAID was in and education improved.
	Show me what country where USAID was in and healthcare improved.
	The social services they're bringing is peanuts.
	The American taxpayer needs to know the billions of dollars that are being given to USAID.
	A fraction is making it to the people.
	Oh, there you go.
	Straight from the horse's mouth.
	Not like we didn't know that.
	No, we knew it.
	We had a note from one of our producers.
	I wish I could find it because I was going to discuss it.
	Yeah, I remember the note.
	We actually got a couple of good notes.
	We got some good notes.
	The guy says he was in Africa.
	And the USAID guys came in with a bunch of stuff.
	Mosquito nets.
	And they took a bunch of pictures of them with the, you know, here's the pictures of us with the guys.
	And then they left and left them high and dry saying they was only there for a photo op.
	Yeah. Do your AI clips because then we can, we'll wrap today's show with that.
	This is the, these clips, I don't know if this is going to work with what you have.
	To talk about, but...
	Oh, maybe.
	This is about AI in libraries and the benefit that it could provide, and I think this is accurate stuff, and this is mostly...
	The first clip is Brewster Cayley, who is at the...
	Who is the head of the archive.org.
	Is it Cayley?
	Cale? It's Cale, I think it's pronounced.
	I know the guy, but he won't...
	He won't take your call anymore?
	No, it won't.
	It's typical.
	You're a podcaster.
	Yeah, I went from important writer to podcaster, and that was the end of that.
	You were an important writer.
	Award winning.
	Yeah, it was important.
	Award winning.
	Instant bestseller.
	Yeah, of course you did.
	I know you did.
	Yeah, instant bestseller.
	Yes, instant.
	Here we go.
	You're right.
	We're digitizing all of these pest reports from Africa for over the last century.
	People are probably not going to be the primary readers of this, but our machines can.
	So not only just search engines for going and helping people find it and then using digital interlibrary loan, which is fantastic and it's going on now, but we now have these technologies, the AI technologies, that allows these to be put in new and different ways to go and correlate information across.
	Oh, was that Brewster?
	I think so.
	Oh, so fantastic.
	It goes on and on with part two.
	There's a three-parter.
	There's not much I can say.
	And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's?
	Well, lots of people are downloading...
	Hold on.
	What it sounds like to me, is he pitching selling archive.org to AI companies?
	Is that what I'm hearing here?
	I didn't hear that in the clip, but it's quite possible.
	And are you talking about your own AI engine or using somebody else's?
	Well, lots of people are downloading lots of things from the Internet Archive and putting them in the big commercial systems, but pretty much just the open materials because of all the copyright and lawsuits problems that we have in the United States.
	In Europe, they've...
	So that's why I'm in Amsterdam right now, working with these research organizations to make use of these materials, because there's regulatory clarity in Europe towards having a blossoming of our library collections and bringing them to life.
	He's got an agenda here for sure.
	Well, his agenda is he's getting sued left and right by these...
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, and I can't say it's...
	I mean, whenever...
	Here's a little trick.
	I have a...
	It's the tip of the day.
	I have a browser plug-in.
	It's called Archive Page.
	And I have it on my Bravo browser.
	And so whenever I hit a Wall Street...
	Whenever I hit a Wall Street Journal article or anything like that, I hit my archive page browser plug-in, and it will immediately find that page, which has then been archived by someone who apparently paid for it or archived it before it was behind whatever paywall, and boom, you got the whole page right there.
	You can read it, no problem.
	That is a good tip.
	Somebody else sent a similar tip that I'm not going to use today, but maybe we should gang him up and do the two tips in an upcoming show.
	Let's wrap it with a third of these clips.
	I want to look at another aspect of this, which is that we shouldn't forget that libraries preserve and make available many things other than books or magazines.
	For example, at the US Library of Congress, less than a quarter of the objects held are books.
	So what about web pages, for instance, Bruce?
	They do tend to appear and disappear with an alarming speed, don't they?
	The average life of a webpage is about 100 days before it's changed or deleted.
	It completely changes how we go and build our collections.
	We have to do it preemptively just in case it might be useful.
	We collect over 1 billion URLs every day.
	The number of webpages in the Wayback Machine is now 900 billion.
	The scale of it is a little hard to understand, but it's just trying to record what's going on out there just so that we can basically have our own history just requires a different view of how we see our old-fashioned trade of archivists and librarians.
	Huh. Well, I certainly think he has an awesome index.
	He has a very crappy way to search.
	I mean, unless you have...
	The search is no good.
	It's no good.
	In fact, if you could really search that thing, there's a lot of value in that.
	In fact, they also have...
	The thing about that collection is he has a collection of 78s.
	Yes, we've talked about this.
	It's unbelievable.
	And not only that, but he has a bunch of these nutballs out there who have fixed a lot of these, I mean, using modern software.
	Fixed a lot of the 78s so there's no pops or crackles and the Fidelity's better.
	It's a lot of work to do any of those, let alone a lot of them.
	And there's two or three guys that have been doing it just kind of consistently.
	I guess maybe they do a few every day.
	But the collection of 78s is unbelievable.
	Do you remember when the MTV News webpage just went off the air?
	I downloaded the entire archive of the MTV News website from archive.org.
	There's a couple of really good scripts out there.
	I mean, because it's basically an open source resource, it would be fantastic for Anthropic or someone to really put a good search engine on top of that.
	In fact, this is the trend as Google is about to do this very thing.
	Google has introduced a new feature.
	And this, of course, is a story about AI read by AI.
	which is an advanced chatbot designed to answer search queries.
	This update is seen as Google's direct response to competitors like ChatGPT, which have been gaining popularity.
	When users ask a question in AI mode, Google's Gemini 2.0 AI model generates a detailed answer.
	This AI system allows users to ask follow-up questions or request additional links for more information.
	Google explains that AI mode is designed to simplify complex topics by organizing data and presenting it in a clear and easy to understand format.
	The company is making major improvements to its search engine by integrating the latest version of its artificial intelligence.
	This change is part of Google's effort to provide faster and more expert level answers to users.
	Competition in the AI search industry has been increasing, with smaller companies creating innovative ways to deliver search results.
	To stay ahead, Google has decided to enhance its search engine with more powerful AI capabilities.
	The Gemini 2.0 AI model will now be used to answer complicated questions, especially those related to subjects like computer programming and mathematics.
	So, first of all, yes, I just said it's an AI voice.
	Everyone's like, this voice is AI!
	Okay, are you listening to the show?
	So I decided to use multiple AIs, including ChatGPT.
	I did not try Copilot because I had a project.
	What about Grok?
	No. I had a computer coding project, and this is what it's supposed to be good at.
	And so I run a little streaming radio station.
	It's called HelloFred.fm and I run it on a radio program called Station Playlist.
	And then so it streams and you can schedule, do clocks, you know, when you want to jingle or a different format of music, all that stuff.
	And I was really interested in putting this on a Unix server and using something called Liquid Soap, which is a very, very extensive program.
	It has this whole, it's a complete programming language.
	It's all open source.
	Thousands of people have worked on this.
	There's extensive documentation.
	All the syntax is very well documented, very well known.
	And so I'm able to set up the server and get a basic system where it just plays one song after another.
	But then I want to script and have transitions work a certain way.
	I want to be able to put in a format, way which songs, how many songs separation, that kind of stuff.
	And I just can't figure it out.
	So I go to the AIs and...
	It's very friendly.
	Oh, sure, Adam.
	And it calls me by my name.
	Adam, I can help you with this, no problem.
	I spent almost all of Monday and Tuesday trying to just get this thing to do a different type of crossfade.
	And I think I must have...
	Over 300 prompts and replies.
	And I keep putting the error.
	And they kept getting an error.
	And then another error.
	And then all of a sudden, well, you have the wrong version of FFmpeg.
	So I'm recompiling FFmpeg from source.
	And then it's like, well, you need to recompile the kernel.
	None of these things could actually help me write a successful script.
	It sucks.
	This is the whole point.
	It's supposed to make people be able to code.
	Mathematics, code.
	They said it right there.
	Yeah, it was good.
	It does a horrible job.
	Walked right into it.
	And I even said, here's the document.
	Oh, yes, I'm very aware of this documentation.
	And then it would be like, oh, no, it seems like we have a problem.
	You're using a different version of what time to step down from FFmpeg 5.5.1 to 4.4.7.
	It sucks.
	It is a time waste.
	I could have learned the language in the amount of time I put into it.
	What a horrible experience.
	This is going nowhere.
	And welcome to the No Agenda Grievance section of the show.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	I missed a semicolon somewhere.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And by the way, we're talking about grievance.
	I have a grievance with today's donation segment.
	We had a total of 30 donors.
	This is crazy.
	This is really crazy.
	It's the shortest list we've ever had, I'd say, for at least two years.
	Yeah. And I'll read the ones from starting with entry number 10, actually, and take it to entry number 30, and that would be the total for the day.
	Wow. Mark Lay in Houston, Texas starts us off at $199.
	And John W. Schumann in Madison, Wisconsin, $184.29.
	Sir Ever of the Watch in Linwood, Michigan, $130.03.
	Kevin McLaughlin, there he is right away at $800.08.
	He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of boobs.
	Boobs! Tim Kwan, 75. He actually came in with a Weiss.
	Somehow he managed to get Weiss through.
	Weiss is a weird app, but it basically does an ACH transfer somehow.
	Well, if you set it up at your bank, if you do it the other way around where you put the onus on the show, we can't get it.
	No, of course not.
	We can't get anything with our bank.
	I'd like Tim to tell me what his process was.
	We can't get anything done with our bank.
	No. I love our bank.
	The bank is just like, hey, you got cash.
	We'll take the cash.
	We'll take your cash.
	We'll take a check.
	We'll take your cash.
	What else you got?
	You can write a check.
	You want gold bars.
	All right.
	Shut up already.
	That's exactly right.
	Jose Paredes in Wichita, Kansas, 69-33.
	He needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And he's got a birthday coming up and he's on the list.
	Bruno Freitas Dasan something.
	I don't have it on here.
	Hold on.
	Bruno Freitas dos Santos.
	Dos Santos in San Francisco, $52.72, which is a $50 donation.
	Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina, $52.72.
	Tom Flynn in Beaverton, Oregon, $52.72.
	And he says, great show.
	Eric Hochul, our buddy in Mulrose, Mulrose, Deutschland, $52.
	Now we have the 50s.
	We're already at the 50s, and here we go.
	Starting with Brett Denton in Boise.
	Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.
	Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas.
	George Ushet in La Vernia, Texas.
	Jacqueline Connelly in Green Bay, Go Packers, Wisconsin.
	Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York.
	Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
	Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas.
	A lot of people in Spring, Texas.
	Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana.
	Alan Bean, Baron Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon.
	And last on our list, Baroness Knight in Edmonds, Washington.
	And that's the short list for today's show.
	I want to thank them for helping us out on show.
	Of all shows, 1750, a landmark show.
	Yeah. And well, we did have, thank God we had one show number donation.
	Man, step it up, people!
	And please check your recurring donations because they've fallen off dramatically as they expire when your credit card or something else...
	Yes, we lost a lot of those.
	I think that makes a big difference.
	And we do have to give...
	I don't know why he did this, but he came in at $49.99, but he wants...
	This is Dennis down below.
	He's just had hemorrhoid surgery.
	Ouch. He says it's been six weeks of five hours of diffusingly pain after I poop.
	I mean, the pain is unbearable.
	I'm on this and that.
	He says that he's not cutting it.
	I know I'm not a big donor under 50 every year, but if you guys can give me some health karma, that would be great.
	Yes, I'm going to give him some health karma right now because, man, especially after you poop, that's no good.
	Here you go, buddy.
	You've got karma.
	He's in Puerto Rico.
	All right.
	Thank you very much to these donors, $50 and above, including our executive and associate executive producers.
	Please help us out by going to noagendashow.com and donating something to us.
	Support the show.
	We have no other way of making this continue for four more years.
	Noagendadonations.com.
	Thank you all very much.
	Caitlin Meyer says happy birthday to Lady Linda.
	She celebrates today.
	Michelle Neva says happy birthday to Nora Neva.
	And she turns 21 on Saturday.
	Jose Paredes on the 29th.
	That's also on Saturday.
	And some health karma for Denise Denise.
	Oh, that's not a birthday.
	But I will add that in just a moment.
	But first, let me say happy birthday to these people on behalf of everyone here at the Best Podcasting.
	It's your birthday!
	Let me do that health karma for her right away.
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	Because we do have a title change here.
	I'm going to read the note first.
	This is Richard of Tasmania.
	He says, Adam and John, thanks for accepting Australian dollary dues as real money.
	You do a better job than our useless government by respecting our dodgy currency that way.
	I'm a recurring producer in your show and I've earned enough to experience to be a level two knight.
	Benefits include a healthy amygdala, increased resistance to propaganda and improved ability to detect gaslighting.
	Thank you very much.
	So he becomes a...
	Well, it says layaway title change, so I'm not sure what he becomes.
	Oh, baronet!
	There we go.
	He becomes a baronet, so let me just, let me, might as well give you the jingle.
	music
	I could have done the whole thing in the music.
	Anyway, thanks very much, Sir Richard of Tasmania.
	Congratulations. You are now Baronet Sir Richard of Tasmania.
	And we do have a Commodore coming in today.
	This would be the Archduke of Central Florida who stepped it up once again.
	So we say congratulations.
	You are now a Commodore and you are arriving, sir.
	Woo! Very nice.
	Commodore, go to NoAgendaRings.com and there's a tab there, a menu item.
	You can give us the address and the actual title, but I think it will be Commodore, Archduke of Central Florida.
	Let us know for sure.
	We'll get it out to you as soon as possible.
	They're very, very handsome.
	No Agenda Meetups!
	Let's start your party!
	Hey! We got the North Georgia Monthly Meetup at 6 o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
	We have the Columbia River Basin Monthly Tri-Cities Meetup, 7 o'clock tomorrow at Ty's Bar& Grill in West Richland, Washington.
	On Saturday, one every single day, the Magic 33 Toverland Meetup.
	Oh, this is in Seifen in the Netherlands.
	Is that during the...
	Oh, that's at 10 o'clock in the morning?
	Bring your...
	Bring your alcohol, I guess.
	Toe for land, toe for lam, too, in Saifenum, the Netherlands.
	Okay, 10 o'clock in the morning.
	Also on Saturday, this time in California, all aboard the Flight of the No Agenda meetup number 61. Leo Bravo is organizing at Santa Fe Express Cafe in Fullerton, California.
	The hipsters, trolls, and producers of No Agenda Brooklyn meetup in Brooklyn, New York, at Wing Bar.
	Definitely check that out on Saturday, 3.33 Eastern Time.
	Also on Saturday, the Central Ohio, really late St. Paddy's Day Meetup.
	That's very late, 5.30 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.
	And finally, on our next show day Sunday, the TMI Evac Zone Crossword Puzzle Meetup.
	You'll be doing crossword puzzles, apparently, 3.30 p.m. at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
	And I got a promo here.
	Dad, what a six-letter word for a party-like experience.
	Hmm, try meet-up.
	Speaking of meet-ups, there's a TMI Evac Zone crossword puzzle meet-up Sunday, March 28th at Evergreen Brewing Company at 3.33 p.m.
	Hope to see everyone there to solve this Noah Jenner crossword puzzle.
	What's a nine-letter word for a father who exploits his human resources?
	Uh... Douchebag!
	Okay, thanks for the promo.
	Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	That's where you can find the entire overview of all meetups.
	Calendar view, list view, you can search by zip code.
	It's all over the world.
	They are producer organized.
	This is where you get connection that gives you protection because everybody you meet at a No Agenda meetup is going to be your first responder in a crisis.
	NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	If you can't find one of you, start one yourself.
	it's always a party sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days you wanna be where you want me triggered on hell's flame you wanna be where everybody feels the same it's like a party Yo, yo.
	So are you back to regular ISOs now?
	You're no longer doing the AI stuff?
	This time it's a split.
	Let's see what you got.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	I've got to correct some of the volumes on these because some of the volumes are way off.
	Yeah, here's what I got.
	Yeah, that's a great one.
	Yeah, I got this one.
	Mum for all.
	All for mum.
	I thought that was kind of cute.
	And then this one.
	Bye, Adam.
	Bye, John.
	Not really an ISO, but...
	No. Okay.
	Well, I got...
	Here's a real one.
	A real one?
	This is the...
	A, too much.
	It was too much.
	It was too much.
	It was not good enough.
	It's not too much.
	And then here is the, this is a meta.
	Meta? Yeah, this is a meta clip, and you hear why.
	I may be fake, but that show was real and great.
	I may be fake, but that show was real and great.
	I'm so torn about this.
	Oh! Oh!
	Oh, no!
	He's torn!
	It is time for John C. Dvorak's tip of the day, everybody!
	Great advice from you and me.
	Just a tip with J.C.D.
	And sometimes Adam.
	I'll use it, though.
	Created by Dana Burnetti.
	I'll use it.
	I'll use it.
	Okay, this is...
	I got this from two different people.
	Oh. Which is always like a sign.
	The first time I looked at it, I said, no, no, no.
	Then I started really looking at it.
	And I said, holy mackerel, this is actually pretty phenomenal.
	But you have to dig.
	You have to go down because all the top...
	This is called...
	I don't even know where they got this top-level domain, but the site is tv.garden.
	tv.garden.
	I want you to go to this.
	Now, it has TV shows from every country in the world, and it has almost everything that you can imagine.
	You can click on the map.
	You can scroll down.
	There's a lot of different ways of doing it.
	The map, you can spin it around the globe.
	And most of the stuff at the top, like, for example, you go to the United States, the first 10 things at the top are all...
	Religious programming.
	I think there's a bunch of religious stuff, but no, you dig down, you go down to thousands of stations, including Buena Park Television, for example.
	But I want you to do this.
	Go to the map.
	I'm at the map.
	Okay, hit Canada.
	Okay, I'm going to hit Canada so hard they won't know what hit them.
	Yep. Okay, now go on the side.
	You'll see there's two things in Canada.
	One is Afghan Nobel movies.
	There's a bunch of movies.
	It's Afghanistan because it's alphabetical.
	So every country's got...
	Click on the second one, Afghan Nobel TV.
	Okay. Hacked by Cyber Dragons team, it says.
	Yeah. What is that?
	The page has been hacked.
	The whole page?
	And overrun by some group.
	Interesting. Yeah.
	Barney the Dinosaur?
	Wow. This is pretty cool.
	It's unbelievable.
	Wow. How do they even get away with this?
	Ah, therein lies the rub.
	I do not believe this site is legal.
	I don't think so either.
	They have everything from every country.
	Every imaginable TV feed is on this site.
	So you can watch.
	They have Milwaukee's local station.
	They have everything in Canada.
	I didn't even know half this stuff existed.
	They have every BBC channel, plus stuff in England I've never heard of.
	It's just a great site.
	This is a fabulous tip.
	Do they have Korea, the Korean news lady?
	North Korea?
	That's a good question.
	Yeah, North Korea.
	We got North Korea.
	Here we go.
	North Korean Central TV.
	I got bars and tone on Pyongyang.
	That is an amazing tip.
	Now, you thought I was deep into my code.
	I'm going to be playing with this for the rest of the day.
	That is amazing.
	I just got North Korea, Korean Central Television.
	What a great tip.
	Another fantastic tip, John.
	You have outdone yourself.
	I mean, every single time, it just keeps on getting better.
	You're like a fine wine, my friend.
	Yeah. The fine wine of tips.
	It is John C. Dvorak's tip of the day.
	Tipofofofday.net.
	Noagendafun.com.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCB.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Created by Dana Burnetti.
	Well now, you've outdone yourself on that one.
	And of course the question is...
	Did you click on all the A's and the B's before you finally got to Canada to find that hack channel?
	Is that what you were doing with each other?
	That was just a random walk.
	I hit the hack channel by accident.
	Wow. Amazing.
	That concludes our broadcast day for today.
	But we will be very delighted to come back and do it all again for you on Sunday.
	Clearly with more stuff.
	More stuff.
	There's lots of stuff.
	And your favorite place for world news.
	No Agenda World News Service will return on Sunday.
	End of show mix is coming up from Professor Jay Jones.
	We got, oh, uh, Bose Music.
	He's got a cool little ditty he hacked together.
	And up next on the No Agenda Stream at Trollroom.io, the modern podcast apps, it's Grimerica.
	This is their 700th episode.
	Support those guys.
	They're value for value.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	Now I'm from northern Silicon Valley where I remain and it looks like it might rain.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	Remember us at noagendeddonations.com and make it great for Sunday.
	We'll see you then.
	Until then, adios mofos, a hooey hooey and such.
	The strength that we have is in this moment.
	What are you doing in this moment?
	Elon Musk is a Nazi.
	Oh, the in this moment.
	There's some kind of mental illness thing going on here.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	What is this all about?
	In this moment.
	Bullets are being fired.
	Charging stations are put ablaze.
	Teslas are being put ablaze.
	What is the op here?
	What are they trying to accomplish?
	I don't feel good in this moment.
	How do you feel in this moment?
	Are you guys that lost?
	Does it really come down to the basic?
	Really what this comes down to?
	It baffles me.
	Is that what it comes down to?
	What is the best way to avoid war?
	We must get ready for war.
	These people are trying to kill us!
	She's making this up as she goes along.
	It's grassroots, too.
	Grassroots, nonviolent.
	Grassroots, nonviolent.
	There is no conspiracy.
	There is no well-funded cabal.
	Volkswagen is retooling one of their closed factories.
	I mean, like, really friendly fire.
	All-out warmonger.
	It's what this model requires.
	You got that part right.
	Does it really come down to the basic...
	Hey, buddy!
	Really what this comes down to, it baffles me.
	Is that everything's gonna be quite alright?
	Is that what it comes down to?
	Let's go, let's go, let's go.
	Meanwhile, bad people will do bad things.
	Stay in your home, I repeat.
	Stay in your homes.
	Your personal safety, the safety of the entire city, depends upon your full cooperation with the military authorities.
	Dope show.
	Dope. Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	We'll be right back.
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	Yo, yo, yo, dope show.
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	yo Yo, yo, yo, what up?
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	Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	Which is incredibly white of you, but okay.
	I digress.
	Yeah, of course it is.
	I'm white.

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