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Hey, what happened to my money?
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, March 9th, 2025. This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media assassination episode 1745. This is No Agenda.
Singing for Science and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we've noticed they're bombing Ukraine.
The Russians are bombing Ukraine.
I'm Justin Borak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
Yes, they're bombing Ukraine.
And, more importantly, it's that time of year again, John.
Ooh, okay.
It's Ford Truck Month!
Oh, I thought it was Toyotathon.
No, it's Ford Truck Month.
Every single podcast I listen to, except for ours, of course, they all interrupt three times during the show, and if it's not the wellness company, it's Ford Truck Month!
I just don't believe that the people who listen to Pivot buy trucks.
We're not Ford truck drivers, those people that listen to Pivot.
A Subaru maybe.
Yeah, that is...
When did that become, like, the lesbian car?
That was...
Did we play a clip with a guy who explained it?
Oh, I'm trying to think if we did.
Was it a marketing thing?
It was a marketing guy.
A guy said, you know...
You know, he just had this sense that there's some woman's thing that was going on.
He said, you know, I think if we push the car into this direction, it would be a big hit.
I'm looking at it.
I'd have to revisit this marketing trick, but yeah, it all of a sudden became the lesbian car.
Is it still successful, though?
Is the Subaru still a big seller?
Is it still a thing?
Oh, yeah, they do very well.
It's a good car.
The thing that makes a car...
It's got the safety features of a Volvo, so it's a good car to drive.
That, for me, is the quintessential lesbian car.
The Volvo.
Come on.
Obviously.
It's up there.
I had a Volvo.
One of my first cars was a Volvo.
I told you the Volvo.
I took a tour of the factory.
In Sweden?
Yeah.
Oh, do tell.
I did not know about this.
Yeah, it was great because they also gave us a tour on the track.
They let us race around on the track.
Wow!
Oh, you'd be surprised.
This is when I first drove those new diesels.
The ones that turned out to be kind of sketchy in terms of the way they polluted.
That was the Volkswagen, wasn't it?
I know, the Volkswagen had the reputation, but this was the same product.
Because these things went, this diesel, because I've driven diesels, a diesel that goes like a bat out of hell, something's up.
I remember, so my first car, no, my, yes, my first car was the Volvo 142, which was the size of a tank with a lawnmower engine.
And I was always jealous because a buddy of mine had the 144 with the overdrive feature.
He had a little button on the top and it was overdrawn, whatever that meant.
But then later, as a payoff...
Whatever that meant.
I don't know what that means.
Later, as a payoff...
It has to do with sports ball.
No.
It's a guy's thing.
Yeah.
Later, as a payoff for kind of like one of those old, you know, the black musicians in rock and roll in the 50s.
They weren't allowed to pay me to drink milk on TV, so they gave me a car instead.
It's a long story.
It has to do with commercial interest on public broadcast.
And they gave me a Volvo 480ES. Have you ever seen that car?
No, I can look it up.
Yeah, you should take a look.
It had flip-up lights.
It's not that cute little, uh, sportsy-looking thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I don't know if it was cute-looking.
The front end was kind of cute-looking.
It was sportsy.
Um, but the thing was, there was something, because it was one of the first ones in Europe, and I remember, uh, because I was a smoker then, of course, at the time.
It was Volvo what?
480?
480 ES. EF? ES. Echo Sierra.
Oh, yes.
And, uh...
There was something they had treated the steering wheel and the interior with some kind of new plastic.
And so if you were driving and if you, for any reason, put your fingers near your mouth, which you would do as a smoker, it was like this acidic burn that would just go into your mouth and you couldn't get rid of it.
It was a poisonous vehicle, I tell you.
Maybe.
I see it.
Yeah.
That's cute.
Anyway, enough about cars because it's Ford Truck Month.
And also, it's time for a whiplash!
A whiplash in trade policy here at the White House has sent the stock market reeling.
This whiplash triggered another sell-off on Wall Street.
The Dow, Nasdaq, and S&P all took any losses.
We start with that major market sell-off.
The reason?
More whiplash from President Trump over tariffs.
A full week of whiplash.
Over President Trump's on-again, off-again tariff strategy.
Whiplash.
President Trump's on-again, off-again tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports is off again.
What feels like whiplash by the White House has many people wondering what's next.
Many experts say this constant whiplash by the White House...
Has many people wondering what will happen next.
The fast action from the new Trump administration has also led to some neck-breaking whiplash.
Joe, a lot of whiplash to go around.
Happy Friday.
Well, a lot of whiplash.
There you go.
A lot of whiplash.
Sounds like it.
People are complaining that I'm over-modulating.
Why is this?
Yeah, you're breaking up.
Am I breaking up on you too?
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's during the clip.
The thing would just go off the peg of the needle and it would just be distorted.
Really?
I'm not sure why that is.
Hmm.
Okay.
Well.
I thought it was just local here, but I guess not.
No.
Well, the experts in the troll room, you know, they know exactly what's going on.
One, two, one, two.
No, it seems okay.
That's just, that's all your gear, man.
It's nothing to do with me.
So, yes, whiplash on the tariffs.
This is the big thing.
No one understands it.
What's going on?
The markets are upset.
The markets are crashing!
Markets are crashing, John.
Markets are crashing.
Have you heard the markets?
They're crashing.
It's crashing.
I heard this, and I heard there's whiplash.
Yeah, whiplash, because we are in the fog of trade war.
The fog of trade war.
Good evening.
I'm John Dickerson.
I'm Maurice Dubois.
The financial markets were rattled today.
So they fired Nora from CBS. Yes.
News deconstruction is what we should be talking about.
Yes, yes.
So they got rid of her and they put on...
Of course, they never fire anybody.
They put you on special assignment.
And you get to do long-form programming.
Yeah, and then you're done.
So they put in John Dickerson, who's good enough, you know, on his slow-talking morning shows.
And this other guy, and it's like a Huntley-Brinkley report.
They're trying to bring back Huntley and Brinkley from the 60s and 70s, which was on NBC, not CBS, of course.
But they're trying to put this team up.
It stinks!
And the two guys don't have any rapport.
Almost as though they're competing with each other, figuring one of them is going to get the other guy out of there and he's going to take over.
I'm on the brink, honey.
Once I get that guy out of here, it'll be all me.
It'll be all me.
So this is the worst.
And the multi-culti guy will probably win if they're going to do that because Dickerson seems nervous.
He doesn't seem comfortable.
He's not...
He's not doing a very good job.
But the way they've staged it stinks.
And not only that, but they're a mile apart.
It's just terrible.
It's terrible.
It's worse than Nora.
All the more reason to go.
Back to the clip.
The fog of trade war.
Good evening, I'm John Dickerson.
I'm Maurice Dubois.
The financial markets were rattled today by the commander-in-chief and general confusion.
Conflicting signals from the president about his trade wars.
General confusion?
Is that a new guy?
I never heard of him.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, yes.
Maurice Dubois.
Otherwise known as general confusion.
There you go.
Conflicting signals from the president about his trade war sent stock prices tumbling.
The Dow lost a full percent.
The Nasdaq, more than two and a half.
What happened to you?
What are you doing?
I'm moving stuff around.
Could you do it not during the clips?
Then two and a half.
President Trump granted more exemptions today to his 25% tax on imports from Canada and Mexico.
For one month, goods covered by the USMCA trade agreement will not be subject to the tariffs.
He gave that same exemption yesterday to Detroit's Big Three automakers.
This is not the first time the president has threatened or imposed tariffs and pulled back.
And the uncertainty goes well beyond Wall Street.
Ed O'Keefe is at a curling center in Toronto.
What?
Ed O'Keefe, Canadian sports?
Are they talking about curling?
Canadian sports?
Yes, he's at a curling center in Ontario, which is where you get your boots on the ground from.
Because when you think of Canada, what do you think of?
Well, I always think of curling.
The on-again, off-again tariffs are mostly off-again.
Are they going to keep saying on-again, off-again?
Yes.
Yes, they do keep saying that, actually.
Here in Canada's largest province, which is warning of economic pain for at least some Americans.
We have to put an end to this.
This is mass chaos right now around North America and actually around the world.
Doug Ford is Premier of Ontario, the hub of Canada's economy and home to 40% of Canadians.
He dismissed President Trump's pause on tariffs.
He said that before and he switched his mind a few days later or a week later.
So once I touch the stove and I get burned once...
I don't touch that stove again.
He needs to drop all tariffs.
And if he doesn't drop them for good, Ford says Ontario, which transmits electricity to the United States, will put a 25% tariff on power sent to Minnesota, Michigan, and New York starting Monday.
Ford got into a heated phone conversation this week with the U.S. Commerce Secretary and has banned the sale of American-made spirits in Ontario liquor stores.
So if I hear you, you're turning off the lights and you're running the bourbon dry in response to what the United States...
The last thing I want to do is turn out the lights.
I'll put a tariff.
But let's straighten this out.
And to the American homeowner in Minnesota or New York or somewhere else that gets its power from electricity, they're going to see the electric bill in a month and they're going to realize, whoa!
It's a lot more expensive than it was.
And there's one person to be blamed, and that's President Trump.
Even if the tariffs are temporarily off, the anger has hardly subsided at the private Royal Canadian Curling Club.
Hold on a second, before we get back to the curling club.
What is Ford talking about?
He's going to jack up the prices?
That's not a tariff, that's an increase in price.
I know.
Just before you finish this clip, I have to mention something I've been meaning to talk about for a month.
Oh, please.
Ever since Trump got elected, on Fox, a couple of the shows on Fox, have had this running, and I should have recorded it, I'm sure, a running ad promoting Ontario.
I've never seen this before on television.
Interesting.
It's an advertisement.
Ontario, your trading partner, the greatest place in the world, we in Canada, blah, blah, blah.
And it goes on.
It's a 60-second commercial, and they play it all the time on Foxes.
And when I first saw it, I said, uh-oh, something's going to happen here.
There's something wrong.
Why is Ontario, of all places, advertising on network television?
Right, right.
And by the way, for those of you wondering, no, no, no, this is...
Doug Ford, not to be confused with Tom Ford, or with Ford Truck Month, or with Rob Ford, this guy.
For months, Rob Ford, the embattled mayor of Toronto, has been dogged by allegations that he'd been caught on tape smoking crack.
And today, the mayor of Canada's biggest city came clean.
Am I at it?
No.
Have I tried it?
Probably in one of my drunken stupors.
Just hours later, he fell on the sword again.
Admitting it was the most difficult and embarrassing thing I have ever had to do.
Alright, so that's his brother.
I'm sure they all party.
This guy here, this joker, seems the same guy to me.
Let's go back.
But let's straighten this out.
And to the American homeowner in Minnesota or New York or somewhere else that gets its power from electricity, they're going to see the electric bill in a month and they're going to realize, whoa!
A lot more expensive than the rest.
That's correct.
And there's one person to be blamed, and that's President Trump.
Even if the tariffs are tearing off, the anger has hardly subsided at the private Royal Canadian Curling Club.
Members stopped drinking American bourbon and California wines on the premises weeks ago.
And Danielle Brown's Canadian anger isn't about the American people, just the American president.
I have respect.
I have respect for the Canadians.
There's a big movement.
Oh, we're only buying Canadian, eh?
Which is good.
I think that's...
Most of their wine is made in the bathroom.
Okanagan Valley makes a good product, that's for sure.
But if you go to Canada, all the liquor stores are government-controlled so they can do this stuff.
Even though they already bought the stuff, but they're going to just put it back in the warehouse.
Yeah, exactly.
But they have these shops throughout Canada where you can go in there and buy home winemaking gear.
And must.
And grape juice and different kinds of things.
And you make it at home.
And I think a lot of Canadians...
Somebody from Canada can call me out on this if I'm wrong.
But it seemed pretty popular to me that they had this rig that you could buy to make your own damn wine.
In the toilet.
In the toilet, basically.
It's interesting because I asked...
Canadians to send us some boots on the ground and some thoughts about everything.
And it varies.
I got some good reports, too, maybe to get to them later.
Well, most of what I received is, we actually wouldn't mind being the 51st state.
You didn't get too many of those.
Yeah, I know I got a couple of those.
Also, you know, a lot of like, well, and this is kind of permeated.
It might be in this report.
A lot of Canadians would say, well, we all know that we only exist because you haven't invaded us yet.
Which I think is fun.
Well, I didn't get that one.
Yeah, I got that one.
These guys are the ones who burnt down the U.S. capital, these Canadians.
They're pretty tough fighters.
Yeah, they're tough.
The War of 1812 was a war of the United States versus Canada.
We don't like talking about it because the Canadians won.
Yes.
The Canadians will discuss it.
Let's get some more insight from CBS. Now, Ed, we usually think of Canadians in kindness, but in this case, they seem pretty angry right about now.
They're always grousing.
Hold on a second.
The Canadians, oh, they're so kind.
That's not necessary.
It seems like that on the surface, but when you go and spend any time at all in Canada, they're gruff.
They also, they're quick to, I've had this happen to more than once.
It takes a while to get used to being in Canada.
Because when you have this polite back and forth where you say, well, here's thank you.
You always say thanks and you're welcome.
If you don't get the thanks out fast enough, the Canadians will say you're welcome in a very gruff tone as though you haven't said thank you fast enough.
You are generalizing.
You realize that, right?
You're generalizing.
I'm generalizing from lots of experience.
Got a report from Corey.
Corey and his wife attended the Tony Hinchcliffe show in Niagara Falls, Ontario last night.
That's the guy who said, you know, who talked about the trash in the ocean being Puerto Rico.
Yeah, right, the insult comic.
So he opened the show with the American National Anthem, the Star Spangled Banner.
Nobody booed, everybody cheered!
How about that?
That's odd.
Well, there was no alcohol.
You go to a hockey game, you get everybody else sauced up.
It's like...
Maybe they weren't even booing.
Maybe they were just trying to bend over.
They weren't trying to bend over.
Well, Maurice, in their view...
AdamMcCurry.com Oh...
The Canadians love me.
They love us.
They love the show.
We're the only Americans who pay any attention to Canadian news.
We know the difference between Rob Ford and Doug Ford.
Nobody else does.
The important stuff.
Well, Maurice, in their view, and the reality is, there have been free trade agreements between the U.S. and Canada in place since the late 1980s.
Many may remember NAFTA, more recently the U.S.-Mexico-Canada free trade agreement that was negotiated in part by President Trump.
They're sick of being pushed around, and they're not quite sure what it is the president wants done by early April to call off this trade war entirely.
Oh, good.
Trade war, trade war.
So here's the final one about the actual products that are being affected.
And if these tariffs stick, what other kinds of products or what other ways will Americans be affected?
Well, let's walk our way across Canada to give you an example.
In British Columbia, the lumber from there helps build American homes.
In Alberta, the oil and gas gets pumped into American cars.
Fertilizer from Saskatchewan gets scattered across the heartland.
And we went to a steel manufacturer here in Ontario who makes window wells and garden beds that get bought up all across the American suburbs.
And then, of course, there's the produce.
Blueberries, tomatoes, and yes, maple syrup, the cost of them would go up as well.
What kind of got lost in all of this?
And I got some boots on the ground from our producers about this as well.
Is initially, and I think still, these tariffs are indeed about fentanyl.
And if you look at the reporting, there are a lot of fentanyl, I wouldn't call them factories, but labs all over Canada.
And it's produced there and then it gets put into, you know, trucks that carry stuff, you know, for our cars or fenders and bumpers and whatever else.
And it comes right into America.
I think the president's right on this, at least from the reporting I see.
And ABC went a little bit deeper into this with, what's the guy's name?
Kevin Hassett.
Who's this guy?
Kevin Hassett.
He is...
Oh, he's one of the president's economic advisors.
Yes, he's the director of the National Economic Council.
So we saw the president this week impose tariffs, delay a bunch of the tariffs, and then on Friday he said there are more and bigger tariffs to come, suggesting possibly as high as 250% on Canadian dairy and lumber.
Can you just explain?
In short, what is driving the president's decision-making on this?
Let's go through what happened this week, because I didn't really think that the way you guys characterized the tariffs made sense to me, so I just want to go back to what happened.
What happened was that we launched a drug war, not a trade war, and it was part of a negotiation to get Canada and Mexico to stop shipping fentanyl across our borders.
And as we've watched them make progress on the drug war, then we've relaxed some of the tariffs that we've put on them because they're making progress.
And so that drug war is something that's been going on since really the beginning of the Trump administration.
We've also announced that we're going to put out a study April 1st that says what is the harm to America of all the asymmetrical trade practices of foreign governments and what are we going to do about it?
And that's the April 2nd number that you keep hearing the president say.
So this isn't even a tariff on trade.
This is just a tariff on drugs, which is what was initially announced, but somehow it turned into just a tariff, a fog of tariff war.
And they continued on this.
I am confused about what you're saying about this being a drug war, not a trade war.
So let's just take Canada.
I mean, you said Canada's shipping fentanyl into the United States.
I mean, I don't think that's happening.
I mean, 1% of fentanyl is being smuggled across the border, 1%.
I mean, Canada's not a major source.
At all of fentanyl in the United States, are they?
Well, yes, they are a major source.
And I can tell you that in the Situation Room, I've seen photographs of fentanyl labs in Canada that the law enforcement folks were leaving alone.
Canada's got a big drug problem, even in their own cities.
Go walk around Toronto and see what it's like, and you'll see that it is a big problem.
And frankly, we have intelligence that Mexican cartels operate in Canada as well.
And so if you want to get the cartels out of the U.S., you've got to get them out of Canada and Mexico.
If you're saying that this is an effort to make them crack down and it's worked- It's working, yes, it's working.
Then why are these tariffs going, the very same tariffs, going back into effect on April 2nd?
Well, we'll see what happens.
So what's going on with the trade war is that we're going to have reciprocal tariffs in April.
What's going on with the drug war is we're trying to make progress.
So there is a trade war.
In April, there's going to be a reciprocal tariff.
And then if they lower their tariffs, we'll lower ours.
April 2nd, the real tariffs.
And by the way, those are reciprocal tariffs.
250% on dairy.
Yeah, we get screwed on the dairy.
We can't send our dairy up there.
They don't want our dairy.
Why is that?
I mean, this protectionary, I guess.
Yeah, it's total protectionary.
Because they wouldn't have an industry at all.
Yeah.
Well, this, of course, has fueled the...
And I'm pretty sure this is all being fueled for the upcoming election in Canada, at least of the new prime minister.
We heard from Chrystia Freeland, who was using this.
Nobody takes seriously, according to our...
I thought it was a rumor, but her dad actually was a guy who collaborated with the Nazis.
It wouldn't surprise me.
She sounds like it.
Just saying.
And the real frontrunner, though, is a guy we know very well on the show, Mark Carney.
The frontrunner?
Polyvirus.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
For the Liberal Party.
For the Liberal Party.
Oh, yeah, but the Liberal Party's done.
They're toast.
Well, Mark Carney, man.
He returned home to his supporters to make his bid for the party leadership.
Mark Carney made it clear he wanted to become Canada's 24th prime minister.
I'm back home in Edmonton to declare my candidacy for leader of the Liberal Party and prime minister of Canada.
Woo!
He says he has the experience Canada needs.
Consider this.
I've helped manage multiple crises and I've helped save two economies.
Mark Carney is a former governor of the Bank of Canada and a former governor of the Bank of England.
He has served as an advisor to Justin Trudeau and to Boris Johnson.
Carney was born in Canada's remote Northwest Territories in 1965. He went to Harvard and worked at Goldman Sachs before being named Deputy Governor of the Bank of Canada in 2003. He became governor in 2008 at the age of 42 in 2020. After almost seven years at the Bank of England, he served as a UN envoy on finance and climate change.
In the Liberal Party leadership battle, he argued Canada must fight the US President Donald Trump and his tariffs by diversifying trading relations.
He argues he's the only person prepared to handle Trump.
We have to recognize that the Donald Trump of today...
is different than the Donald Trump of several years ago.
Oh!
Then his objective was to take more of our market.
Now he wants to take our country.
Yeah!
You're not Greenland, okay?
We don't want your country.
I mean, we'd love to have you as 51st state, but it's, you know, that's up to you guys.
We would fold it, man.
We'd have a great time.
Don't you think it would be great to have Canada part of the United States?
Yeah, that's never going to happen, and I don't want it to happen.
What's wrong with you?
It would be great.
No, you don't need the complaining Canadians in the United States.
John at Dvorak.org, everybody.
Canadians know what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
So that's North America.
By the way, it was Freeland's grandfather, not her dad, grandfather, who was a Nazi collaborator.
He wrote some newspaper stuff.
I think that, again, it's just like Thursday.
The action is in Europe.
People are, I mean, the European leadership, let's just put it that way, are so gung-ho on war.
They really are.
You know what you just said because that little anomaly is still there?
Oh, really?
It was funny because when you said gung-ho on war, it kind of became...
People in the chat room can confirm this.
You know the sound that you always ridicule me for when I come in with that Mickey Mouse sound or whatever the hell it is?
Well, you know what?
It's so sparse and sporadic.
I wouldn't worry about it.
If it's on the clips, then I'd rather reboot the machine.
Yeah, they're saying it's back.
It's got to be the machine.
It's Windows 10, John.
10?
Yes, it's Windows 10. You should be using 11 by now, it seems to me.
I need to upgrade my experience.
Everything has been rebooted, and hopefully everything's okay now.
Sorry for people out there bored stiff.
Mimi always bitches when this happens.
She's listening live.
But this is why people listen live.
They love this.
This is the best part.
Oh, they love it.
What time is it, Bill?
It's time to go home.
We used to have the biggest problems on Skype.
The biggest problems.
And now, did you know that Microsoft is shutting down Skype in May?
Can you believe it?
Let's talk about it on the show.
We're on the show.
I'm recording.
Oh, okay.
Well, yeah.
Microsoft's shutting down Skype.
And why is that?
Because they never got the source code to begin with.
They never knew how it worked.
Those guys said, nah, you were selling the product, but I want to tell you how it works.
How do you know they never got the source code?
They never...
That when they originally sold...
Now, I could be wrong.
They could have gotten it later.
I could be wrong.
But when they sold, it was a big deal.
Those two guys, those Norwegians or Swedes, whoever they were.
Yeah.
They actually developed that all in Amsterdam.
I met them there, and I was like, this is never going to fly.
I'm not investing in you.
Classic.
Something of a mistake, I guess.
But they were going to give Microsoft the product, but they weren't going to tell them how it worked.
And it was kind of a...
Big deal.
Microsoft was like, you know, typical.
Well, it reminds me of when Lohenbrow was bought by Miller.
I think they bought it.
And the Lohenbrow team said, hey, which was a famous beer at the time.
They said, hey, you guys, you want us to send some brewmasters over to show you how we make this stuff?
And Miller's comment was, it's according to folklore, Miller's comment was, no, we know how to make beer.
You're telling me that Microsoft paid $8.5 billion and they didn't get the source code?
I'm telling you that they didn't get the knowledge that they needed to know how the product worked.
Whether they got the source code or not.
It's like you can get source code, but if it's not, you know, source code doesn't mean anything if it's spaghetti code.
I mean, they don't even know how Windows works half the time.
Nor do we, apparently.
Just kick it, shake it, turn it off.
Yes, and so they never could get the thing to work.
Because I remember the first time I was in, I think, Sweden, and when this product first appeared on the scene before Microsoft owned it, and I heard it because we were doing some presentations and people kept getting these Skype messages and you'd listen to people.
It was...
Stunning, the quality of the sound.
It sounded like, I always call it CD sound.
It sounded like a CD. It was so crisp.
And Microsoft got it, it still sounded good, and very slowly it started to deteriorate.
And now they can't even keep the thing running.
And then they're giving up on it.
Are you kidding?
Oh, just get Teams.
Yeah, and then of course...
It reminds me, what was the name of that SIP? Well, the SIP still exists.
Yeah, but it's a crap protocol that makes everything sound crappy.
And so everything that's any good was always proprietary because you have some genius.
Clean feed is the same way.
How does this work?
Well, I don't know, but those guys got an Academy Award for clean feed.
Yeah, for good reason.
Yeah, that's good stuff.
Anyway, so then...
This is too much insight-based.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, so I wanted to go to Europe, where there, as I said before, are many reboots.
They are out of control.
They are completely abusing the European public, and I know because I'm getting screaming emails from people.
Like, Trump can just do whatever he wants.
You don't care.
He's just breaking laws left and right.
He wants to start World War III. I'm like, what are you talking about?
He ignores the courts.
I mean, there's so much.
And by the way, that's the elite messaging system.
The M5M is doing its job well.
People are completely under their spell and believe everything they hear, everything they read.
But ultimately...
You are the ones being played by your own leaders.
They want to complete the European project.
And notice how they always are intertwining Europe and the EU. This is the President of the EU Parliament, Roberta Metzola.
I think I'll be a little bit more blunt than usual today.
And our message on this day of the Special European Council on Defense is that it is about damn time.
This is something that we have been asking for a long time.
That the European Union, that Europe, is capable of standing up on its own two feet.
That's why we've been saying we need to scale up, we need to be prepared, we need to produce, and we need to protect.
That is essentially what our citizens are asking from us.
That is essentially what it will take for Europe to say that we are ready to put, finally, our money where our mouth is, on Ukraine.
The situation today is exactly the same as it was three years ago.
Ukraine is fighting for Europe, and Europe needs to be hand-in-hand, lockstep.
Notice this.
Notice.
It's for Europe, but only EU has to pay.
And the UK, of course.
...for Europe, and Europe needs to be hand-in-hand, lockstep, with whoever is fighting for our security, for our values.
Ukraine's security...
It's Europe's security.
And today, more than ever, also with the president of the country, we will stand with him and we'll say, we are with you.
But to do that, we need to do more.
We need to make sure that even here we put our money where our mouth is, that we help financially, that we help militarily, and we're able to say that, yes, what you are fighting is what we will be fighting for together.
I mean, that's the president of the European Union Parliament.
I mean, she's a warmonger.
And you're going to pay for it, EU. Here's the Lithuanian president.
There's no need to explain in a detailed way how important is this meeting.
We are in the fourth year of the war in Ukraine, and Ukraine is buying the precious time for us every day, paying with the blood.
So it would be highly irresponsible to waste this time and to have long-hours discussions without the clear outcome.
So I think we have two very important proposals on the table.
First of all, I appreciate the efforts of the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, for this 800-billion-euro plan.
I think this is step forwards comparing with this.
When I hear this guy, he's like, oh, I thank Ursula, Queen Ursula, for the 800 billion euro plan.
I hear a guy who's going, money, money, money, money.
There's money coming in, baby.
This is step forwards comparing with the situation we are now.
And it would be really high assistance for my country because we have very ambitious target in my country to spend for defense.
From 5 to 6% of our GDP. Wow!
It means a lot, but for that we need more flexible treatment of the fund spending while calculating the fiscal deficit according to economic growth and stability plan.
Then 20 billion euros financial package for Ukraine.
You are smiling.
I think this is very serious because Lithuania is committed to contribute and to pay our part to this fund because we are committed also to support Ukraine by 0.25% of our GDP each year.
We calculated if our countries will commit to pay the same amount, Ukraine would receive 43% It's amazing what is taking place in Germany.
Mertz is trying to get their part of the rearmament scheme rammed through before the new parliament is compiled or chosen.
I mean, they've got to shuffle stuff around to get their majority.
Yeah, they don't want the AFD in there.
The AFD is going to be a roadblock, so they've got to get going before the guys get their seats.
Exactly.
And so they're going, they want to go to a trillion, but they're going to start, they can go start easy.
It's all borrowed money, we should mention that.
Oh yeah, no, they have to undo their handbrake legislation so they can start borrowing that money.
And the French...
Well, they have a totally different plan.
They're taking it from their own citizens.
Boosting France's defense budget, a pressing priority.
But where to find the billions of euros needed?
One idea is to use French citizens' savings by offering a new personal investment vehicle based on defense funds.
So it starts, one option is war bonds.
That's basically what this is.
But then it gets crazier as it goes along.
The war bonds thing goes back in history.
To the World War I, and a lot of people think this whole thing's a scam for war bonds to sucker everyone to get, you know, basically taking their money and turning it into war bonds for the purposes of this.
And so this is some truth.
I believe that to be possible.
We have to, the United States has to get away from it.
This is like a, you know, to say, well, you know, NATO has kept the peace and blah, blah, blah, even though I've never, I've always said it's never been NATO that's kept the peace.
Nuclear deterrence that's kept at peace because people know what would happen if you got into a conflagration.
Conflagration, yes.
And NATO's just been there.
We have to get out of NATO because these people, this is pent up.
The fact that we've had peace for so long is pent up in Europe.
They want to get back into fighting each other.
We continue.
We have to get out of this.
This is not good for us.
Yeah, but let's listen to how the French are getting screwed, and then we'll talk about that.
I'd rather it be used for social good or for the environment, not the military.
I don't want my money to be financing war.
A tax-free government-regulated account popular with French savers.
Its deposits are currently used mostly to finance social housing.
Some of that, though, could be reoriented into defense.
Whatever the product, it will need to attract investors.
To mobilize French savings, certainly you can call on patriotism, defending the country, but savers will be looking at the returns.
If those are low, they'll prefer the Livret A, or a tax-deferred investment account.
Other options include directing funds from those tax-deferred investment accounts towards defense, incentivizing institutional private investment or reducing interest rates for defense contractors.
The French state itself could borrow to fund more military spending, but not without consequence.
We have to be careful.
We'd have no problem borrowing that money, but interest rates are higher now than they were before the financial crisis, so this debt will cost us more.
One option that President Emmanuel Macron insists is not on the table.
Raising taxes.
Borrowing money is a taxation.
Taking your savings is more than a taxation.
The French are going to wake up to this.
And then...
They do a lot of protests about one thing or another, but they can't.
This is relentless.
But then there's a new player that pops on the scene.
Unfortunately, this is Euronews.
And Euronews has...
I tried to speed it up as much as possible.
They've resorted to AI voices now for their reports.
This is the worst.
But it's the report that counts.
France versus Germany.
The battle for Erdogan's favor and the 150 billion euro European defense between France and Germany over the European Commission's proposal for a 150 billion euro investment in European defense.
Whether these funds should be exclusively reserved for EU-based defense industries or if they should also benefit non-EU partners, including Turkey.
According to the Financial Times, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has already expressed interest in participating in Europe's joint defense effort given Turkey's strong military industry a divided Europe.
Last week, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen proposed a 150 billion euro defense fund aimed at boosting Europe's military production.
While all EU member states support the idea, disagreements remain over who should receive the funding.
During the EU summit last Thursday, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz argued that the initiative should be open to non-EU partners, stating, Also open to countries that are not part of the European Union but maintain close cooperation with us, such as the United Kingdom, Norway, Switzerland, and Turkey.
However, French President Emmanuel Macron strongly disagreed, insisting that EU defense spending should prioritize European manufacturers.
These investments should not be spent on equipment that is not of European origin.
They're fighting over the money already.
And this is just the first tranche, the $150 billion that Queen Ursula promised.
And Turkey's saying, hey, we're in NATO. We've got NATO gear.
You don't have anything.
You've got to go build stuff.
So they don't actually want to help Ukraine.
They just want the money.
So we can have a war economy.
And Macron is making very dangerous noises.
The UK and many of the member states in the EU, they have our nukes.
I know the Netherlands has several.
But France, they have their own.
Yeah, so is the UK. Yes.
So if you want to launch something from the EU, you've got to sign the EULA. I mean, from the EU, you've got to sign the EULA and make a payment, and then we'll give you the code, and we'll activate your nukes.
But Macron is like, he's got his own, and he's making dangerous noises.
In a televised address Wednesday evening, French President Emmanuel Macron delivered a stark message to his nation.
Macron warned that Russian aggression knows no borders and could extend beyond Ukraine.
He also said he would consider extending French nuclear deterrence to other European countries.
And that's a statement Russia condemned as, quote, very confrontational.
Macron also acknowledged that the French people's worries are legitimate and said Europe must prepare for a potential future without US support.
Russia has become a threat to France and Europe.
I want to believe that the US will stand by us, but we have to be ready if this is not the case.
Whether or not peace in Ukraine is achieved quickly, Europe must be able to defend itself better and deter any further aggression.
And the Kremlin is reacting strongly to Macron's speech by saying the French leader's comments are an indication that Paris wants to prolong the war in Ukraine.
And the Russian spokesman had particularly stern words for Macron's statement that he is considering sharing France's nuclear capabilities within Europe.
Of course, this is a threat against Russia.
If Macron considers us a threat, gathers a meeting of the chiefs of general staffs of European countries and Britain, says that nuclear weapons need to be used and prepares to use nuclear weapons against Russia...
This is certainly a threat.
This, I mean, it's unbelievable.
You've got Mr. Peepers coming in in Germany.
You've got Macron married to a dude.
And you've got Starmer who knows what his deal is.
They've all gone insane.
They're suicidal maniacs.
Oh, that's a good way of putting it.
Now, if we get out of NATO, I mean, what happens?
Well, all hell's going to break loose.
I sure hope not.
Well, the thing is, you know, they keep talking about Russia this, Russia that.
Russia has...
What has Russia done so far?
They've taken pot shots at Ukraine with a bunch of drones flying every which way and glide bombs.
It's about as close as they can get.
And the glide bombs hit whatever they hit.
And they've taken the Donbass, which is an area that they've controlled anyway because they're all Russian speakers, and Crimea, which they controlled anyway because they took it over in 2014. They haven't done anything else.
They kind of make an inroad here and an inroad there, and they lost the Kirks.
Their own part of their own country because of the Ukrainians.
So how is this a big threat to France for all practical purposes?
France is a bigger threat.
They're shaking their sword right there.
Well, let's see what happens when one of those 50-ton bombs.
The Russians have nukes that are...
Nothing compared to the French.
The French nukes are jokes by comparison to what the Russians have.
One 50-ton bomb would take flatten Paris in a second.
And they can take all their nuclear missiles and recalibrate where they're going to be targeted.
And good luck, France.
Give me a break.
These guys are idiots.
I don't understand why the Europeans...
They're kind of silent except for the ones yelling at me because it's all Trump's fault.
You know, we had in Fredericksburg yesterday 50 protesters with Ukraine flags on Main Street.
What?
In Fredericksburg?
In Fredericksburg.
You don't even have that in Berkeley.
I think that was the entire Democrat representation in Fredericksburg.
But yeah, I was surprised.
Well, there's a couple of organizations that Mimi turned me on to that are floating around.
501...
Somebody in the chat room knows this.
I think it's called 505104 or something.
There's some number.
And it's a national organization.
There's about two or three of them.
.org or.com.
One of the two.
And they are organizing these little events all over the country constantly.
I think it stands for 50 states, 50 events.
So it would be 50501, maybe that's what it is.
And 50 events, 50 states, something like that.
Is that an ActBlue or a Soros?
Soros!
I don't see any ActBlue connections, but it's obviously ActBlue because they have the same website look.
And there's a certain web designers that do all these sites are all the same.
And that's probably who organized that Fredericksburg thing.
Yeah.
This group.
So Tina said she drove by and gave a thumbs down.
And the people went, well, God bless you.
Have a blessed day.
I would give a thumbs up and go in with a microphone and start chatting.
So, now there's also implications, depending on how this goes, there's implications for Five Eyes.
And of course, Australia's dangling down there with a cyclone going on, which not many people are talking about, but it seems to be pretty bad from people I know down there.
Yeah, they don't have them that often.
Power's going out and all kinds of stuff is happening.
It's a big hurricane.
But Europe wants to, the European Union wants to tie up with Australia.
You have the UK. And this is Fiona Hill.
She was on Face the Nation.
She is, I think, CFR. Brookings Institution.
I think she also worked in the UK government.
Here she is on Face the Nation.
The US pauses of lethal intelligence sharing, including targeting data for US-provided weapons like HIMARS. We also know it extends to satellite imagery, which is no longer being shared with Ukraine.
What's the practical impact of that and the military freeze?
Well, I think we can see the impact.
It's certainly on the one hand emboldened Russia to really step up the attacks.
And it's also not just blindsided, but also partially blinded Ukraine.
I mean, we heard from the previous segment that there's still some sharing with allies like the United Kingdom, of course, which is part of the Five Eyes sharing with the United States.
But frankly, none of the other allies, including the UK, have the same access to satellite imagery as the United States does.
So even if there is some sharing and not much restrictions, this certainly has an impact.
And frankly, I think it's going to be an impetus to other allies to start stepping up their own capabilities and questioning themselves about the virtues of sharing with the United States.
I mean, this is a two way street.
We have to remember that other countries also share pretty vital information with the United States, even if the scale is not quite the same.
Huh.
So as it turns out, everybody's leeching off of our data, as per usual.
Yeah, we're the ones with all the satellites.
We're the ones with all the good data.
We have the targeting information.
We got the data, people.
All right, how will Five Eyes respond?
This woman is a spook.
Oh, of course she is.
The UK, Australia, among those who do so, you think they will essentially punish the US by not sharing intelligence?
I'm not sure whether it's punishment, but it'll be a lot of questioning about what actually happens with this.
Because if you're bundling together intelligence, then effectively the United States is putting restrictions on that.
Was that pre-discussed with our Five Eyes allies, for example, or with other allies, particularly in the midst of basically a conflict?
Before I continue this clip, what do you think the odds are that Trump is so hacked off at Five Eyes and for all the stuff they did to him in his first go-around that he's just going to tell them to screw off, too?
I think that's what he's been doing.
He's been doing that consistently.
A conflict that is, as we've heard over and over again, the largest land war in Europe since World War II. I mean, this is really unprecedented in terms of the actions of the United States in this regard, because it's not just affecting Ukraine.
Looking at her background, we're not hearing her, we're hearing MI6 complaining.
Yeah, I agree.
And it's having knock-on effects for all of our other allies who are directly affected, all of our European allies that are directly affected by this conflict.
Then, of course, the horrible things that President Trump said about Putin.
In other words, he said, yeah, Putin's doing what I would do.
So President Trump said on Friday when he was asked if this uptick in Putin's bombing was directly related to the U.S. halt.
Here's what he said.
I actually think he's doing what anybody else would do.
I think he wants to get it stopped and settled, and I think he's hitting them harder than he's been hitting them.
And I think probably anybody in that position would be doing that right now.
Yet earlier in the day, the president had posted on social media he was considering possibly putting sanctions on Russia.
That's a contradiction.
Contradiction?
What do you make of what he said?
I make of it exactly what he said.
I mean, he's actually obviously putting himself in the shoes of Vladimir Putin and saying that if I were the aggressor, that's exactly what I would be doing if I wanted to make Ukraine capitulate.
So, I mean, yeah, he called it as it is.
I don't believe what he said for a second about the sanctions.
I believe more what he just said there in the Oval Office sitting behind the Resolute desk.
I mean, I think that's what you can take away from this.
Believe the present.
I think he should, yeah.
I mean, he's the president of the United States, and he made it crystal clear, I think.
And he sees, you know, obviously, the Ukrainians, and he said that in the Oval Office during the meeting with President Zelensky, that he sees them on the back foot as losing, and he's basically telling them that they have to capitulate.
Very clear.
So, what?
No, she's interpreting it, of course.
Yeah, she's a mind reader now.
Yes, and as you correctly pointed out, she's a spook, and so she has some information from Spook Central, the Council on Foreign Relations.
You don't have the cards was the line he kept using.
That's right.
So I know you were at the Council on Foreign Relations this week, as was I. I had an interview.
As was I? What?
Who is this?
Who is it?
Margaret Brennan.
That's Margaret Brennan.
Well, as was I, I was at the briefing of the spooks.
On foreign relations this week, as was I, I had an interview with Trump's envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg.
And when we were discussing the president's decision to cut off Ukraine, he said Ukrainians brought it on themselves.
And the decision was like, quote, hitting a mule with a two by four across the nose.
You got their attention.
Oh no, the audacity!
You really should only be speaking in your native language.
And I think that a lot of this was lost in translation.
First of all, President Zelensky didn't fully understand that this agreement was just purely with President Trump.
And President Zelensky didn't quite follow all of this because, like the rest of our allies, he actually thinks that commitments made by the United States are supposed to hold over successive administrations.
And what we learned there and what he learned there was that is not the case.
You're essentially going to have to make a new commitment with President Trump.
It's a personal commitment.
And that was what he was being told he didn't fully understand.
And I think in future, when the Ukrainians are meeting with the Americans, They ought to have translators with them, because as good as President Zelensky's English is, there's two things that he's missing there.
He doesn't quite understand the way that President Trump operates, although I think he's probably got the message now, but he doesn't always understand the nuances.
And I would also think that our side, on the United States side, could do with some interpretation as well.
So the way I read that from the Council on Foreign Relations is, oh no, no, it's not Zelensky's fault.
He didn't screw it up.
He's a good guy.
He just didn't understand what it meant when...
President Trump said you don't have any cards.
I want to mention something here, just so we clarify, because it's never mentioned by Margaret, that she is not only doing an interview while she was at the Council on Foreign Relations, and she's talking to a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
She herself, I'm looking at the roster, she herself is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Yeah, she should have said that.
Margaret Brennan, the journalist, is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and she does not disclose that.
Oh, wow.
Gambling?
Very surprised.
You're not surprised.
Ian Bremmer is also on the thing.
Oh, another good one.
Well, I'm very sad for this turn of events.
And I don't know if President Trump has more cards up his sleeve to bring all this back into some kind of normalcy.
And I don't know if he can.
The Europeans, they have a secondary agenda that they are just not being honest about.
They want a war economy.
They have a problem with their economy in general, as does everybody.
And so they're, well, we need more factories.
We need to borrow money.
It's a racket every single time.
But if you don't have the reserve currency, like the U.S. has, which is also coming to its end now, you can't, what?
Not necessarily.
It's not great.
Let's put it that way.
It's not great.
But they can't just be printing money all over the place.
Not everybody wants euros.
I'm sure they think that they'd want that to be the reserve currency.
And you just look at the M5M here in the U.S. Doge, Elon.
Doge.
They are the ones that are stupid.
They're not giving anybody any useful information.
And we all have roots back in Europe.
But no.
No, no, no.
It's just all Trump.
It's Trump.
He did it all.
It was, certainly, it was the United States who started this whole mess.
We lied.
We lied with Baker.
Yeah, in 2014. That's when we started it.
No, we lied with Baker.
That's when we started it.
Actually, we don't know that that was a lie.
Baker may have been sincere.
Maybe Baker was reflecting because that was right after the fall of the Soviet Union fell apart and we made the promises to the Russians that we weren't going to move NATO around anymore because it wasn't the threat that it once was.
And that doesn't, I don't think it was a long-term scheme.
I think it's just later that it devolved.
I could be wrong.
But now you see the power of propaganda and the power of mainstream, which still lingers because no one has ever received this information.
They don't know anything about it.
And Putin, for years, has been saying, stop expanding NATO. Stop expanding NATO. And then, until he was fed up, and then the little twerp over there in Ukraine said, well, maybe we'll get some nukes over here.
And that's when he went for it, after we had already committed a coup in that country.
So the whole thing is shameful.
And President Trump is actually trying to fix some stuff.
Yeah, he's getting zero help.
Orange man bad.
In fact, before you play that, I want to play a little sub-clip.
This is an example.
Trump just got in.
Trump's approval rating, as far as I can tell, is quite high for a president.
Never as low for a president this early in his administration, ever.
And most people, at least if you look at the social media, even the black folk like the fact that Musk is kicking ass.
The black folk.
The black folk.
But yet, on the latest version of Margaret Hoover's show, Firing Line, which is a takeoff, which is the modern version of the William F. Buckley show when he was very erudite.
He was kind of mocked for being so.
And Margaret Brennan has the temerity, to use that word, to think she could be another William F. Buckley.
She's a clownish blonde who used to be on the O'Reilly Factor as a stooge.
She opens the latest show with this little ditty with a guy who is the columnist for the New York Times.
Here we go.
Ross Douthat, welcome to Firing Line.
Thanks so much for having me, Margaret.
It's great to be here.
President Trump delivered his first address to Congress this week and declared that he had accomplished more in 43 days than most administrations accomplish in four or eight years.
The fact is, the economy is showing some flashing signs.
His approval rating is lower than any modern president at this point in his term.
And his alliance with Elon Musk is deeply unpopular.
How do you assess the opportunities and the real risks of the moment we're in?
I mean, I think what you just said is basically correct.
Yeah, she's no William F. Buckley.
So that's what we have to deal with.
PBS, thank you very much.
People, stop sending your money to them.
Here is...
The report about the ongoing negotiations taking place in Saudi Arabia.
With Russian airstrikes continuing to rain down on Ukraine, as Moscow claims more advances, the pressure for Kiev to end the three-year war is at boiling point.
President Zelensky has confirmed Ukrainian negotiators will travel to Saudi Arabia next week for talks with U.S. officials, and he is optimistic for dialogue.
We are preparing a meeting in Saudi Arabia.
I'm confident that the meeting will be productive.
We in Ukraine are committed to this.
We will do our best to ensure that Ukrainian interests are taken into account, taken into account in the right way.
Zelensky will also be present in the Gulf Kingdom for his pre-planned visit with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, though he will not be participating in the negotiations.
The war is at a critical juncture for Kyiv after Donald Trump suspended crucial U.S. military aid for Ukraine after his very public clash with Zelensky in the Oval Office last week.
Trump has also defended Russia's relentless bombardment on Ukraine since the aid pause, calling it what anybody would do.
The Saudi talks, though, show a step forward for Kyiv in repairing ties with Washington.
That's not defending?
He wasn't defending it.
He was just saying that's what anyone would do.
That's not the same as defending.
This is a false report.
It's France 24. You know, the people with the nukes.
After Donald Trump suspended crucial U.S. military aid for Ukraine, after his very public clash with Zelensky in the Oval Office last week, Trump has also defended Russia's relentless bombardment on Ukraine since the aid pause, calling it what anybody would do.
The Saudi talks, though, show a step forward for Kiev in repairing ties with Washington.
With the U.S. envoy saying Thursday, the idea is to create a framework for a longer agreement.
I think that the president has said that there's a path back, and President Zelensky has demonstrated that he's intent on that good faith path back.
He's apologized.
He said he's grateful.
He said that he wants to work towards peace.
Oh, he's apologized.
He's grateful.
Okay.
Well, I don't think that was really the issue ever.
But you were talking about the speech, the joint...
The joint session, whatever you call it.
Not the State of the Union Union.
Yeah, just the speech.
Yeah, just the speech.
I noticed something that happened while the president was speaking, and it was corroborated, and I'd kind of forgotten about it.
Did you notice that while he was speaking, a little white dot appeared on his left sleeve?
No.
Well, I noticed it because, you know, he has blue jacket on.
All of a sudden, like, there's this white dot.
I'm like, oh, there's almost like one of those very small pieces of styrofoam, like a round styrofoam ball.
Yeah.
Turns out one of the Democrats shot a spitball at him.
Is that right?
Yes.
I don't have confirmation on who did it yet, but somebody shot a spitball.
Wow, this is like the fifth grade or something, these guys.
Yeah, it's amazing.
It's amazing.
Yeah, you can go back and take a look at it.
It wouldn't actually completely surprise me.
No.
No.
So for those of you not in America, a spitball is done with a straw, and you take a little piece of paper and you put it in your mouth, make it all nice and wet, and you jam it into the straw, and then you...
You shoot it out.
Yeah, it's like a blowgun.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a kid's version of a blowgun.
And if you've ever used a blowgun, I don't know if you've ever had a real one.
Many times, many times have I used a blowgun.
Those things are astonishingly accurate and powerful.
You know, back in the day, in the Netherlands, when we first arrived there in 72, all the kids were walking around with the same device.
And I was like, oh, what is this?
So you get a piece of PVC pipe, and they'd saw it off, you know, just that regular plastic kind of beige PVC pipe that you put wiring through.
And then they'd walk around with strips of newspaper in their belt, and they'd whip a piece out, wrap it around their finger, make it into a dart, rip off the tail end so it fits perfectly into the tube, and they would just be shooting blow darts at each other all the time.
I got really good at rolling those darts, actually.
That was the precursor to my joints, I think.
But that was, yeah.
Well, I used a commercial blow dart, a big one.
It was about four feet long, and it had a real dart.
And it was pretty amazing.
Wait, I have a jingle for us.
Where is it?
Someone sent a couple of these in.
Yeah, here it is.
Born to be wild and free.
Check out my new Harley Boomers.
Yeah, baby.
And no, we're not quite dead yet.
We are the Boomers.
Although technically I have learned I'm Generation John. .
Jones, I'm sorry.
Generation Jones.
Jones?
Yes.
It has a Wikipedia page, so it's true.
Oh, yeah.
Some guy like you put it up.
Generation Jones is the generational social cohort between the baby boomers and Generation X. So, being born in 1964, I'm officially Generation Jones.
Unfortunately...
Is it just that year, or is it a couple of years?
Do you have some leeway here to be a Jones?
Yeah, the leeway is...
No wonder you're Jones-ing all the time.
It's really 64. But if you look at the people who are my fellow Generation Jonesers, Bill Gates, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Barack Obama, I'd rather be a boomer than with those guys.
That's no good.
Creeps.
So there was a report in the New York Times about a rift.
That occurred between Elon Musk and Marco Rubio.
Yes, this New York Times report.
And it's also Maggie Haberman, I think, has something to do with it.
I don't trust her at all.
She's the co-author.
Some brand new reporting in the New York Times today on a confrontation of sorts inside the White House between Elon Musk and several members of Donald Trump's new cabinet.
Is this Nicole Wallace?
Of course it's Nicole Wallace.
Yes, of course.
He's beautiful.
The role of spectator.
The Times sites five people with knowledge of the confrontation.
reports this about an argument between Elon Musk and Marco Rubio.
Quote, you fired nobody, Musk told Rubio, then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from his Department of Government Efficiency.
Rubio had been privately furious with Musk for weeks ever since his Doge team effectively shuttered an entire agency that was supposedly under Rubio's control, the United States Agency for International Development.
Musk was not being truthful, Rubio said.
What about the more than 1,500 State Department officials who took early retirement in buyouts?
Didn't they count as layoffs, he asked sarcastically, whether Musk wanted him to rehire all those people just so he could make a show of firing them again.
Then he laid out his detailed plans for reorganizing the State Department.
Musk was unimpressed.
He told Rubio he was, quote, good on TV, with a clear subtext being he wasn't good for much else.
Where was Donald Trump in all this?
The Times reports that he sat back as if he was watching a tennis match.
Ultimately, he, quote, intervened to defend, wait for it, Rubio.
So he's doing a great job.
Rubio has a lot to deal with, the president said.
He's very busy.
He's always traveling and on TV. And he has an agency to run.
So everyone just needs to work together, end quote.
And then for the first time since his inauguration, Trump put some restraints on Elon Musk.
From this reporting, quote, from now on, he said, the secretaries would be in charge.
The Musk team will only advise.
So I, of course, don't know if there was a real...
You know, Huffy's shouting match or something that went on.
But I do know firsthand information that the Doge people were kicked out.
Even the unregistered Doge people were kicked out.
You know, because there were some other personnel that were put in that, you know, were kind of...
Kicked out of what?
The meeting or the State Department?
The State Department.
And this is bad.
Why is it bad?
Because the State Department is more trouble than USAID. Oh no, the State Department is the worst.
And they have their own secret, they have their own spy agency that nobody wants to talk about.
Exactly.
So Rubio, I think we have to keep a sharp eye on him.
And maybe President Trump is all in.
It's like, okay, you keep your secret intelligence group.
I mean, every single embassy is a CIA station.
Haven't heard much about the CIA lately either.
No, they're laying low for some reason.
Well, maybe it's related.
But there's, I mean, not clearing out the State Department.
Okay, whatever, 1,500 people took voluntary leave.
They took the buyout.
Fine.
I'm skeptical about the State Department.
Well, you should be.
Yeah.
We could do a whole Lib Joe episode on that alone.
Oh!
Can you believe it?
The bromance is over!
The bromance is over!
Elon's not allowed to do anything.
He's being curtailed by Trump.
Orange man, no good.
Some people actually like that.
Yeah.
When we did that on the last show...
The skit, you mean?
Yeah, the skit we did?
What I got back was, wow, you sounded so much happier.
It was much more light-hearted.
What do you mean you sounded happier?
Two guys grousing about the president.
I'm just telling you, that's how they heard it.
It was music to their ears.
Anyway, here's the NBC follow-up on this.
All of this comes against the backdrop of these tensions between Elon Musk, who's charged with slashing the federal government and the cabinet secretaries.
I asked Secretary Lutnick about that.
This is all Manhans talking now, isn't it?
Who?
Manhans?
Welker?
Isn't this Welker?
I'm not sure.
The one they have to yellow up?
No, this is Courtney Cube.
Courtney Cube?
I never heard of her.
I looked her up for you somewhere.
She's a correspondent.
Secretary Lutnick, about that, he wouldn't kind of go so far as to say, look, bottom line, the president said we're all in charge of our own agencies.
But what are you hearing about?
Oh, no, you're right.
This is manhands.
Now Cube comes in.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, this is the first time that we've heard that some frustrations that, frankly, have been...
In place for several weeks now are actually boiling over.
And what I was really struck by was they boiled over in front of President Trump.
So in this case, there were several of the cabinet secretaries who confronted Elon Musk on Thursday about the way that Doge is doing these firings.
So it's not just the firings in general, but how they are doing it.
Cutting thousands of employees, in some cases having to bring some of them back because they are not taking into account employees' performance or some of the critical nature of the jobs that they're doing.
That was really at issue.
This is something that Republicans have been concerned about.
That's why Elon Musk met with them Wednesday night on the Hill.
They met for two hours.
But at the end of the day, Elon Musk still has a lot of authority.
What we did see out of this cabinet meeting was, President Trump said, look, the secretaries have the authority to make their own firings here, but if you don't do enough, Doge will step in.
Remember, most of these secretaries will do enough.
I will say, the president also walked out of it saying, Elon Musk is doing an amazing job.
I think his role as first buddy is probably still pretty safe.
First buddy.
Slow down.
I got some Doge clips.
Yeah, give me some Doge.
You got any Doge?
How much Doge?
I got three, four Doge clips.
Let's play this one.
Doge NPR. This is the NPR report.
Millions of federal workers are still weighing how to respond to a second email sent over the week and asking them to justify their jobs.
They're still doing this?
Another round.
Oh, another round.
NPR's Bobby Allen reports the messages are part of Elon Musk's push to root out dead or non-existent workers.
Musk has now asked the federal workforce twice to list five bullet points about their accomplishments.
He said ignoring it could lead to termination.
To former Twitter employees, it sounds familiar.
When Musk took over the social media company, he launched a payroll audit to see how many fake people were on Twitter's payroll.
Ian Brown worked at Twitter for nearly a decade.
The wild sort of paranoia of just like woke zombies not doing stuff is just a complete fantasy.
Musk has called the messages a pulse check, suggesting without evidence that taxpayers are paying the salaries and benefits of phantom employees.
That always happens in government.
It always happens without evidence.
Of course.
Without evidence.
Well, let's go to the Doge analysis from NPR. And of course, the at sign means to.
Yeah, I got you.
I don't know why I keep doing that.
But here we go.
Here's Doge analysis.
Yes.
It's exactly what the clip says.
The headlines say new limits on Elon Musk.
And there's your guy right there.
This guy is so awesome.
The headlines say no limits on Elon Musk and that President Trump is reigning in doge.
The President put it in the Oval Office this week referring to his cabinet secretaries.
So we're going to be watching them and Elon and the group are going to be watching them and if they can cut it's better and if they don't cut then Elon will do the cutting.
NPR senior Washington editor and correspondent Ron Elvin joins us.
Ron, thanks for being with us.
Thanks.
Good to be with you, Scott.
Well, what are we seeing?
Are they putting a leash on that doge?
It's been sold that way.
Oh, when he says it's even better.
Are they putting a leash on that doge?
Well, what are we seeing?
Are they putting a leash on that doge?
It's been sold that way, like it's Trump siding with his cabinet over Musk.
But if you listen to that clip we just heard, it still seems that Musk gets to come along batting cleanup and deciding whether the cabinet secretaries and other Senate-confirmed officials have done enough.
So who decides what's enough?
Is it Musk or is it Trump himself?
And do we know whether that's really a difference?
The New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan have reported that there have been clashes between Musk and members of the cabinet, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, both of whom were reported to have been scolded by Musk for not cutting enough and for having too many DEI hires still working for their departments.
It's outrageous, I tell you.
Put a leash on that doge.
Yes.
I'm no Elon Musk fan, but I kind of take his side in this.
You know, there's a funny thing before I play the second clip.
They're trying to slander him as much as they can, and the Atlantic is the one that's kind of a go-to for this sort of thing.
The Atlantic, which had an article recently on how If you have your own backyard chickens, you're losing your ass on the free eggs.
Oh, really?
I would talk about it some other time, but in that same issue, they had a report on Musk being a ketamine freak.
Yeah.
So he's like on ketamine, so he's got that same...
You know, Kevin Rose is a big fan of ketamine.
All these guys are ketamine guys.
And they all end up with that funny look on their face.
And I realized that, yeah, I guess he is.
You know who else is on ketamine?
Who?
Professor Scott Galloway.
Oh, that doesn't surprise me.
Yeah.
He's also doing the ketamine thing.
And the article talks about how Musk started using ketamine because he's a depressive.
And it brings you out of depression, and I think Rose talked about this too.
And then you get locked into this kind of funny state of mind, which they claim makes you feel, and I relate this back to, I think, the 1981-82 era when Time Magazine made cocaine the man of the year.
I missed that one.
And in the article about cocaine, they said that cocaine makes you feel like you're It gives you overconfidence.
And it sounds as if the ketamine does the same thing.
You're a world beater.
And as I was reading this, then I find out that Kevin Rose has restarted Dig.
He's rebooted it.
And I'm thinking, well, that's kind of an interesting ego thing to do.
For him.
But with Musk being all jacked up on ketamine, because I guess he's gone in and out of overusing it, you know, beyond what he's supposed to, it's disconcerting.
Well, let's just tell everybody what ketamine is.
Ketamine is a horse tranquilizer.
It's a horse tranquilizer that the zombies like to use in San Francisco.
That's when it first showed up in the news around here.
Where the fentanyl users would use fentanyl and ketamine, and you can still see, you can go drive around San Francisco downtown and see these guys, they're kind of hunched over, they can't stand completely up straight, and they walk with a stagger, a weird stagger, and they're just wandering around San Francisco all over the place and disheveled.
They're disheveled and their clothes are dirty and their pants are falling off.
And this is the combination of fentanyl and ketamine, which is called a zombie drug.
I'm not happy about this.
No, fentanyl and ketamine is called the breakfast of champions.
Yes, and you can see the many champions roaming around the streets of San Francisco, pooping in the street, in the champion way.
So there's a moment in the ketamine usage where you fall into the so-called K-hole.
And the K-hole is when you're just completely immobilized.
And you can see what's going on, but you can't speak, you can't move, you're just in the K-hole.
Yeah, this is not the K-hole itself as the term is not discussed, but they do discuss the dissociative characteristics where you dissociate.
In other words, you leave your body.
Yeah, so maybe Elon's in a constant state of K-hole.
Or on the edge.
Man, there's just about five lines went by me that I could have used.
And not a one came out.
What good are you?
Not a one came out.
Well, that's because of the daylight savings time.
All right.
That's the reason.
Part two.
Part two.
Is the Department of Government efficiency a potential political liability for congressional Republicans?
Because after all, federal jobs are getting cut in their states.
Yes, that's right.
It's not a clear liability yet, at least not for Republicans in Congress, because as we saw on Tuesday night at the State of the Union, Musk is still a hero to Trump fans, both in Congress and beyond.
Musk still polls well among Trump supporters.
But the Musk stock may have seen its peak, Scott.
We will see how the cuts to Veterans Affairs staffing, for example, go down with the families of vets in the care of the VA. And we'll also see how much Musk gets to do with Social Security.
That's the most popular federal program in history by all measures.
But Musk has compared Social Security to an illegal private investment swindle.
He did that on Joe Rogan's podcast last month.
Everybody's got a podcast.
I bet you that you have that as an ISO. You better.
Do you have that as an ISO? Tell me.
Everybody's got a power crash.
So first of all, he called it a Ponzi scheme, which it is.
He called it a Ponzi scheme.
It's a Ponzi scheme because they've been stealing from the fund.
Yeah.
And so just take the money from the new people and give it to the old people.
It is a literal Ponzi scheme.
It's not the way it was designed.
No, it's not the way it was designed.
It was designed as a separate fund, an insurance fund, separate from the tax pot of taxes.
But what they're doing here, and they're continuously scaring Americans with this.
Oh, he's coming for your Social Security.
He's coming for your Medicare.
Well, the fact is, the government got your Social Security a long time ago.
There is no Social Security.
Unless we keep making babies and new people to fund the Social Security so you get your checks.
So that's just not true.
And what is he coming for?
They're always doing this.
You don't want him with your sensitive information.
But everyone gives it to TikTok, to Instagram, and Facebook.
I know, it's ludicrous.
Give me a break.
But it's working.
It's working.
And I feel so bad because we're seeing the same...
Kind of splits happening in families and friendships that happened during COVID. It's exactly the same.
It's not that funny.
It's funny to me.
You have no friends.
Do you have family?
I know.
I lost all my friends.
You lost all your friends during COVID. You finally got the Lib Joes back.
Be careful.
Be careful.
I got the Lib Joes back barely.
Don't bet with them.
Just get mad.
Talking about the bet, I hate to do this to my own son.
What did you do?
I wish people would stop betting with me.
I just don't lose these bets.
You've actually been kind to me in saying, no, I'm not going to take that bet.
But yet you bet your own flesh and blood?
What was the bet for?
It was because it was at the dinner table and everyone witnessed this and I didn't look like I was going to be a weenie and back down from this idiotic bet.
But this is another one of these political bets.
And this was, I don't know what got into them.
Because he's a smart kid.
Yeah, he's brilliant.
He's brilliant.
He says, and he insisted to bet me $500.
I think I got you for $500 once.
At least once.
And I told you not to bet any more.
You wanted to bet $5,000 or something ridiculous.
That was on the Facebook stock price, which you very graciously said, no, I'm not going to take that bet.
I don't want to take money from a baby.
And you were right.
It was great.
I appreciate that.
But...
Well, never mind.
It doesn't matter.
Here's the bet.
J.D. Vance is going to run in 20...
I can't believe this bet.
Can I get on the action here?
Is it still time for me to probably do it?
You probably could, but I'm not going to allow it.
J.D. Vance is going to run for president in 2028, and the vice president is going to be Trump.
Oh, man, that's like a Fredericksburg rumor.
Only, it used to be the vice president would be JFK Jr. They've kind of let that go.
But no, he is alive.
And I argued with him about the idiocy of this concept.
And he says, no, because then he talked about the law about getting in for eight years or whatever.
And he went on and on, totally convinced.
I have no idea where he got this from.
He insisted on the bet.
And he insisted on the bet being inflation-proof.
Inflation-proof?
Yeah, so in other words, today's 500 bucks, whatever it's worth in four years, will be what the total amount of the bet will be.
So he's going to owe me more by 540 bucks or something.
Wow.
It's just beyond me.
You've got to stick that kid back in the womb.
He needs some rebaking.
I don't get it.
He needs rebaking.
That's no good.
Huh.
And why do these bets come my way like this?
It's just...
Because they think they can take money from an old man, and I learned a long time ago that's a big mistake.
It's a big mistake.
When it comes to these bets.
Don't try to take money from...
Well, oh, wait.
Oh, that's a very good idea.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
Thank you.
I'm not going to say it on the air yet, because I want to make sure I can get it.
This is a very good idea.
I like this idea.
So we have one more Doge clip, which is just kind of a throwaway.
This is the Doge suit and how it's working backwards.
Okay.
The attorneys general of Washington, D.C. and 19 states are suing more than 20 federal agencies over the firings of probationary employees.
NPR's Andrea Hsu reports.
The Democratic attorneys general argue that federal agencies falsely told probationary employees they were being fired because of their performance.
In fact, the states argue the agencies were trying to shrink their headcount, but they failed to follow proper procedures for doing so.
Federal law requires agencies to notify states when laying off 50 or more people so that states can jump into action and try to prevent instability throughout the economic region.
States are required to reach out to those losing their jobs and provide support with the goal of reducing their reliance on public assistance.
The states have asked federal court to reinstate the workers.
So I tried to get TrumpVP.com.
Yeah.
Already taken.
Let me try TrumpVP2028.com.
Oh, yeah.
Boom.
Got it.
That'll be worth something.
Probably.
If my son has this in his brain, that means it came...
It's out there.
Yeah.
TrumpVP2028.com.
But why is it out there?
People are nuts.
Well, but this is where we're at.
I mean, have you looked at X lately?
I mean, just look at what's going on.
I mean, there's a lot of nutty things out there right now.
A lot.
Mainly from Ian Carroll.
He seems to be the main progenitor.
You've seen Ian Carroll.
Here's an example of what's on X that you're talking about.
This is Jasmine Crockett.
Oh, gosh.
Okay.
And I have the documentation that she's nuts, but she's like a leading candidate for president.
Isn't she from Texas?
Yeah, she's a Texas girl.
Yeah, all of a sudden she's talking like she's from the Bronx.
Yeah, I know.
And not only that, but if people have looked into her background, she was a privileged black girl.
She went to private schools, finishing school for all practical purposes, but she tries to be ghetto.
City law enforcement, local law enforcement, they are always going after crime.
And they don't say, oh, you committed a murder?
Oh, but you're an immigrant?
Well, let me let you go, right?
So they are always focused on crime.
They continue to say things like the illegals and that they broke the law coming in.
But what they're not telling the American people is that it is a civil violation.
It is not a criminal violation to enter the country illegally.
It's not...
It's not a criminal.
It's a crime.
It's not a crime, which is why they're so frustrated because they really want our local law enforcement to go out and round up people when they could be looking out for the murderers and the sexual abusers as well as the robbers.
They want them to go and round people up on civil accusations.
And so that's why I wanted to point out Don't give me this fake outrage about criminals roaming our streets when you guys stand ten toes down for the biggest criminal that we have ever seen go into the White House.
Well, AOC has a problem as far as I'm concerned.
That's not AOC. No, I know it's not AOC. Oh, you mean because of the president theory?
Well, just in general, there's a new sheriff in town.
AOC's getting tired, you know.
AOC had a lot going for her.
I could get clips from her.
She's hanging in there.
I want to just talk about what Jasmine said here.
This is bull crap, okay?
Really?
Okay, now she's right about simply being present in the U.S. without papers is a civil offense.
This is true.
Okay.
And she's assuming that, in other words, you're a student, you come in, you stay your visa.
Lots of students have done that.
And there's lots of that.
However, I'm going to take this right from the document here.
However, entering or re-entering the U.S. without proper authorization can be criminal.
Specifically, 8 U.S. Code 1325 makes improper entry a misdemeanor, which is a crime punishable by up to six months in prison, and are a fine.
But, U.S. Code 1326, Section 8, or 8 U.S. Code, makes it illegal to, it makes it a felony if you've been thrown out and you come back in.
Yes, of course.
With penalties that can include up to two years in prison and more under certain circumstances.
So she's full of crap about it being civil.
Misdemeanor and felony, both criminal.
She's nuts.
And people listened.
Oh, okay.
Just look it up.
She's having her moment.
Let her have her moment.
She's having a moment.
No, they're giving her a moment because she's actually pretty good media.
Because they've got no one else.
She's pretty good.
They've got no one else.
She cusses and she acts ghetto.
Did you see the purple witch creep from Connecticut?
Oh, I love her.
She's great for the show, but I don't know if you can...
I pulled the clip.
It's no good for the show because you can't see her.
You have to see her.
She looks like an old witch.
An old crone.
Crone?
How do you spell that?
C-R-O-N-E. What is an old crone?
An old crone.
That's a wizened old woman that's supposedly smart.
She's fantastic.
But it's a crone.
She's a crone.
She's an old crone.
Her name is Rosa DeLauro.
She's from New York.
She's from Connecticut.
Oh, I'm sorry.
She's from New York, Connecticut.
What difference does it make?
It's as if someone went to the Trump Gen Z group and said, hey...
Tell this lady that she needs to do her video like this.
And she throws in skibbity and sus and cringe and the bag.
Yo, this is the Ranking Rizzler on Appropriations.
The Rankling Rizzler.
Serving Connecticut's 3rd District.
It's time to enter your dark academia Congress era.
All right, besties.
House Appropriation is the money moves in Congress.
We are not chasing the bag.
We are the bag.
Democrats are making lives smoother through government funding.
It's giving, it's giving.
So, Sigma, main character energy.
But Republicans' project 2025 is mad sus.
Eliminating the Department of Education?
Negative horror points.
Basically, the biggest phantom tax on the environment, on your education, and your rights.
Big L, posting it online, buddy.
Democrats understood the assignment.
But go off.
See how I keep you informed?
Very cutesy.
Very demure.
Everybody's trying something.
Everybody's trying to get some kind of viral moment to become the leader or the frontrunner.
I mean, it's wide open.
There's nobody leading the Democrat.
Does she expect to become the leader?
Look at her hair!
Did she expect for people to think that was a good look?
No.
Now, she's nuts.
Well, she's deluded.
Yeah, it makes it so good.
Speaking of...
Unfortunately, people should try to track that.
They showed it a lot all over the place.
Oh, it's all over the place.
You have to see it to appreciate it.
Yes, this is a what?
Not a great clip.
Well, the troll room who hadn't heard it, they liked it.
So, speaking of delusional...
Rachel Maddow.
Sorry.
I actually have two clips today from Rachel Maddow.
Because, you know, she is back.
Because she was banned from the show.
But she's here only for 100 days.
So, you know, we can ban her.
She's unbanned.
Temporarily unbanned.
Because she was here.
Hey!
Hey!
She gets a pardon.
She's getting a temporary pardon.
A temporary protection order from the show.
She had Elizabeth Warren on.
And Elizabeth Warren lays out that, you know, now that Donald Trump, President Trump and Elon Musk are out there breaking all these laws, which I have yet to understand what laws they've broken.
Do you have any examples?
They've broken the law of common sense.
Okay.
See, there's a strategy here because if you don't...
What do you make of this big, I think, constitutionally existential question?
Existential question!
About whether or not court rulings are going to be treated as optional by these guys.
Their brazenness...
So, this is my point.
No one has ignored a court order, as far as you know...
The president keeps saying, oh, well, we'll have to go back or go up to the Supreme Court.
Yeah, they're always going to go back and, you know, yeah, they're going to appeal everything that happens.
That's not ignoring.
But Rachel Maddow is setting everybody up to think that they are ignoring the law, and that's where Elizabeth Warren comes in.
Breaking the law, whether it's with the CFPB or USAID or any of these other things they're doing, seems to me born of a kind of confidence that...
Was there any law broken with shutting down USAID or CFPB? I don't think so.
Do you know of any law that was broken?
I think there's some procedural issues that they could complain about.
You know, people were fired without cause, it seems, in some situations.
They got eight-month payout.
Well, that seems like a good deal.
It's a good deal.
I'll take an eight-month payout from this show.
It can only come from their expectation that the courts don't mean much at the end of the day and that illegality is not necessarily a reason to avoid doing something that they really want to do.
You're right.
You mean like student debt relief?
Is she talking about like student debt relief?
That the court just said, no, you can't do this, but Biden did it anyway.
Is that what she's talking about?
That's whataboutism.
Whataboutism.
Stop your whataboutism.
That they really want to do.
You're right.
We've got our toes.
Or how about having the Federal Housing Authority pick up the tab for something crazy, like a trillion dollars worth of mortgages that are delinquent.
Have you heard about that?
I think I did.
Yeah, some guy with a video going around about it.
Like, that's pretty bad.
Right on the edge of a constitutional crisis.
Constitutional crisis!
But here's the thing.
It may be the case that Donald Trump is so full of confidence that he thinks he can wave his wand and whatever he wants to happen will happen.
And in many cases he will be right.
For example, the Republicans in the Senate just go ahead and confirm people for jobs that they know they are not qualified for.
So they will kowtow him.
But I don't think that's going to happen with the courts.
And here's the next part.
They may not be able to force Donald Trump to do something.
But Donald Trump isn't actually the guy who puts in the orders and cuts people's paychecks.
There's somebody else in the system who does that.
And they're a click down from Donald Trump and a click down from that and a click down from that.
And when a federal court issues an order and then gets people in front of them and says, you either follow that order or find yourself in contempt.
Now we're going to see whether or not those are people who are going to say, oh, but Donald Trump told me, and a judge is going to say, I don't care what Donald Trump told you.
I'm telling you what the law is.
You follow the law.
All hypothetical.
And if what she says is true, then who cares?
Yeah.
Then what's the big deal, Rachel?
What's the big deal?
Yeah, then we're good to go.
Yeah, sounds like it to me.
I don't see what the problem is.
A lot of protests.
By the way, the Fredericksburg 50, they were also protesting against Elon and Tesla.
Oh yeah, you've got to protest against Tesla.
Although, weren't their revenues up?
Did I read something?
They actually had a pretty good quarterly.
Well, they have a lot of international sales.
It's a big deal.
The big problem is the scientists.
The scientists, you know, funding is getting cut everywhere.
They're not getting to do all their projects, which of course comes from the transgender mice story.
That was quite interesting.
When I was a kid in the olden days, there were places like Bell Labs.
These corporations would have their own damn research.
They didn't rely on government handouts to do fake research.
How did that change?
Don't these corporations and these high-paid CEOs, should they take some of that money and put it into R&D? No, that's all the universities.
The universities get all that money.
The universities provide the lab, and then the grants go to the scientists.
And they were out protesting.
Hundreds were standing up for science.
Because if standing up for science, because if the funding goes away, well, all hell's gonna break loose.
Scientists and researchers from institutions across the front range making time to leave their workplaces on Friday and rallying for science funding at the state capitol.
Science is factual and it saves lives.
It's very cathartic to be out here screaming at the top of our lungs.
It feels cathartic to be out here screaming.
Screaming at the top of our lungs.
Wasn't there like a, I think, a rolfing or something?
There used to be a therapy.
Yeah, rolfing.
It was rolfing.
You yell at the top of your lungs and you felt good.
Well, no, I think rolfing is also, you scream at the top of your lungs while they're putting their knuckles in your back.
I think there was a two-parter on that.
I think that was a massage parlor.
I've heard of it.
It's very cathartic to be out here screaming at the top of our lungs.
These researchers from CU Anschutz say every day feels like they're in limbo.
Last month, the federal judge temporarily blocked a Trump administration policy that would significantly lower the agency's funding for major research institutions.
More specifically, limiting NIH research funding for overhead expenses that make their Those court-ordered restrictions fall by the wayside.
We will be doomed within a matter of weeks.
The cuts would eliminate a total of nearly $90 million in NIH funding at CSU, CU Anschutz, and CU Boulder.
These scientists say the impacts to research in Colorado would be huge.
So you're not getting the future training for future scientists and researchers, but you're also not going to be making the discussion.
That allow us to improve health and allow us to identify those new targets and new biomarkers and new drugs.
New drugs!
We won't have new drugs that save lives!
Pharmaceutical companies are supposed to invest in research and development for new drugs.
The big pharma, what has it got to do with you?
No, they do.
After you create the drug, the new drugs, then pharma pays you handsomely.
You get a nice little residual.
And then they pay you to promote it in your white lab coat.
I'm generalizing, of course.
Yeah, and even, oh man, this was, this is on par with the Connecticut witch.
Former NIH director Francis Collins, probably as much responsible for the COVID, for prolonging.
Should probably be in jail, yeah.
Yeah, probably.
That guy's just no good.
And I remember during COVID, he was out there with his guitar, and then he and his wife were singing Puff the Magic Dragon songs.
Do you remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Wait, do we still have that?
Let me see.
Let me see if we still have that.
Yeah, he likes to play the guitar, that guy.
But he only plays folk songs.
Yeah, because he's only five chords he needs to know, and he just plays them and sings off-key.
That's what folk...
Folk's song is today.
Well, here he is at the Stand Up for Science rally.
Noble dream.
Have you got that?
So it's just all the good people, but the second line, part of this family, and the last line, we're joined together by this noble dream.
Do that with me.
This is a song for all the good people.
Come on!
Don't eat the brown acid.
We're part of this family.
This is a song for all the good people.
We're joined together by Whoa, whoa, this is a song for all of those dreamers who are looking for answers to come our way.
Scientists, doctors, students, all seekers, we share in the hopes for a much brighter day.
Come on now.
The toilets are inaccessible.
This is a song for all the good people.
I've got to stop that.
That is too much.
It's too much.
Well, that will show Trump.
Yeah, that'll stop Mr. Trax.
That'll show him.
Bastard.
There is one thing that I found quite interesting.
After the not State of the Union speech that the president did, he...
Man, David Wicker is texting me.
So he discussed the...
Research for transgender mice.
Now, technically, the $8 million for transgender mice, technically, it was to test the response to mice being transitioned with either testosterone or estrogen and different puberty blockers, etc.
But you could kind of say that's testing transgender mice.
But that then got, a big lie came out.
Oh no!
They read that wrong.
Doge read it wrong.
It's trans, what was it?
Transgenetic.
Whatever.
So CNN was out there saying this for about a week.
Oh, he lied.
They misread it.
They don't know the difference between transgender and transgenetic.
But they had to go back and correct that.
They fact-checked it.
And CNN published that.
Oh, I don't think they said it on the air.
So we were wrong about that.
But the president wasn't right either because it wasn't really transgender mice.
Like, that's a thing.
But they were testing puberty blockers and other transgender transitioning drugs on the mice.
So you can hear this now take place.
Axelrod was on the panel with Van Jones and Scott Jennings, and Scott Jennings even says, as Van Jones, because he wasn't read in on it, because he's still hanging out with his $100 million from Bezos, doing whatever.
He has no time to follow everything.
Didn't get the briefing.
He's like, and Jennings actually says, What were we told to say, Van?
Because Scott Jennings knows.
The initial blush of Musk with his chainsaw may have had some resonance.
The fact that he's cutting down stuff indiscriminately, less so.
Well, it's not all indiscriminate.
I mean, we don't really need the transgender mice, do we?
That's not even real!
It is real.
I'm sorry, Van.
It's real.
No, listen.
Is it real or not?
Hold on a second.
Did we have to say it was real or not?
No, no, hold on.
It's real.
I mean, Musk is a sheep.
How about the real thing?
Listen, they weren't talking about transgender.
Don't defend the mice.
No, no!
Listen, you don't want us to talk about it?
We don't talk about it.
But it wasn't transgender.
It was a different term that was misinterpreted as transgender.
They were actually doing basic medical experiments on mice to figure out...
Don't spoil a good troll here.
This is not true.
Jennings is having a good troll.
Don't spoil it.
Here's the point.
They have found some things.
Yes.
There you go.
So Van Jones...
It's a different term.
He didn't know the term.
Stop counting your money, Van.
Can you believe that Bezos...
You know, you got 100 million bucks out of the blue.
You got to spend all your time money managing after that.
It's so annoying.
You don't have time to read the newspaper even.
It's so annoying.
I have no more time to do anything else.
I'm counting the money.
It's a problem.
Who gave...
This was...
I think this was...
Was it a clip custodian or his brother gave me this clip?
The last time...
A president tried to undo the Department of Education was Ronald Reagan.
And Meet the Press brought up an old clip from his Doge guy.
President Trump is considering an executive order which would abolish the Department of Education.
Though as a federal department, it cannot be eliminated without congressional approval.
But Mr. Trump is not the first president to push for its removal.
Ronald Reagan also tried to scrap the education department, but he later backed down, citing lack of support in Congress.
Reagan's education secretary, William Bennett, joined Meet the Press to explain.
As I've said to conservatives in the past six months, if we're elected, we ought to govern, and we ought to govern aggressively.
The president, you know, nine months ago said he changed his mind about the department.
He said he didn't think we needed to get rid of it anymore.
He said it wasn't bothering anybody anymore.
I would say now it's bothering the right people.
You have said, though, that sometimes Republicans seem to think that you just don't need to spend money on education.
What did you mean by that?
Well, we are, as a nation, going to spend more money.
Americans like to spend more money on education.
And when we put forward our budget proposals, and admittedly on some occasions we asked for reductions, Congress just rejected them out of hand.
American people want to spend more.
But what we know is it's not the spending more, it's what you spend it on.
And if we spend it on the right things in those inner cities and those poor schools, we'll get results.
If we spend it on the wrong things, what the special interests want us to do, we're not going to get anywhere.
Well, it should be interesting to see what happens.
I can't tell you what's going to happen.
Nothing's going to happen.
Well, that's what you said about Doge, and things have happened.
More has happened.
I was skeptical.
I'm not going to deny it, but I'm glad that things are happening, but still, there's a lot of pushback, and I think they've got to go back to finding these stupid programs and then exposing them, which is what Rand Paul's been doing this for decades.
Yeah, yeah.
He votes no.
And he comes up every year and he gets no credit.
I tried to get a hold of his office to get some comment on this.
He's not going to talk to a podcaster.
He's not going to.
No.
You can't even get through to his chief of staff.
It's one of those operations that Mike Lee's got one of these two, these guys.
They basically cut themselves off from the public.
They don't want, they're disdainful of any.
Or back and forth with the public.
As opposed to other people.
I've run into these offices.
They'd be glad to help you.
But these guys won't help.
So instead of getting any kind of credit, Rand Paul is getting nothing.
He's a dipshit, the way I see it.
Even though he's been doing the same thing for all these years.
Did you call a Kentucky accent and say you were a constituent?
I couldn't.
If you want to hear the story.
Yeah, of course.
Okay, so everything, if you call this office, everything goes to voicemail.
You need to record these, by the way.
This is show material that you're just throwing away by not recording it.
I agree.
So if you're media, so I have the media line, so I call the media line.
It says, okay, leave your message and tell us when you, leave a number, call back, tell us what the call's about.
So yeah, I'm John C. Dvorak and I'm, click.
Wait, wait.
Hello?
Hello?
Is this thing on?
It's that old coot again.
Hang up!
No, it's just the machine itself.
They won't take the call.
It's just like, you can tell they don't, the thing doesn't give you enough time to even put a phone number in.
Wow.
So that was it?
You gave up after that?
I give up quick.
What am I supposed to do?
I bang my head against the wall to give somebody some free publicity?
Forget it.
They get their own damn publicity.
Well, okay.
Do you have a phone patch?
Because you definitely need a phone patch.
You need to patch that thing in, man, just so you can get a Zoom and just connect it so you can just record whenever.
We're always missing the cool scam calls.
I got some great ones.
Yeah, but not recorded.
You have nothing recorded.
This is a problem.
In some ways, I'm a slouch.
Yes.
Okay, I'm going to violate my rule for the second time just because it was so awesome.
And it's a bit of a throwback to the show, back to 2015. As President Trump signed the executive order to create the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, here is the...
Misinformation from Rachel Maddow.
I should say, I'm by no means a crypto expert.
I'm not going to give you a lecture on blockchain or meme coins or any of that.
I just, A, I don't know, and B, I don't care.
But I do think it's worth looking at this thing a little bit.
So if you're going to start off by telling everyone you don't know what you're talking about, how is that compelling TV, radio, or whatever?
How is it compelling?
Hey, Adam, I don't know anything about this topic, but I'm going to pontificate?
If both of us were making $25 million a year, I'd be like, I don't care.
Pontificate away.
I'm good to go.
Whatever you want to say.
Okay, you got me.
I don't care.
But I do think it's worth looking at this crypto thing a little bit, only because it is a deeply, deeply old-fashioned, simple scam at this point, which points right to the White House.
News from the White House tonight really gives us no choice.
You have to look at it.
Helpfully, the broad strokes of crypto trading are not complicated.
It's like when there was the Beanie Baby craze in the late 90s.
People started buying these stuffed animals, right?
So she is now about 10 years after us when we first saw Bitcoin.
We all said Beanie Babies.
Beanie Babies.
10 years ago, at least.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Kind of inherently not worth much, but people were speculating on them, right?
It was a beanie baby trading bubble.
Other than maybe some emotional value, if you had one as a child, beanie babies didn't have much inherent value.
And when I mentioned that the news tonight leaves us not too much, not much choice, but to talk about this stuff right now, this is what I mean.
The White House just posted this video tonight of Donald Trump signing an executive order establishing a digital Fort Knox, as someone says to the president off camera.
Trump apparently signing this executive order, creating what they're describing as a federal, Government cryptocurrency reserve.
Now, imagine the Beanie Babies again for a second.
Imagine Trump had just announced that the U.S. government was going to...
You know, she just cannot get...
She talks too much.
Hey, for $25 million, I'll talk up a storm!
And imagine Trump had just announced that the U.S. government was going to buy up...
Tons of Beanie Babies.
We're going to establish a federal government reserve of billions of Beanie Babies.
What do you think would happen to the value of Beanie Babies?
Right?
Oh, it turns out there's a huge guaranteed buyer for these things.
They're buying billions of them.
Okay, so the point here being that she's really full of crap because there is no...
Billions of Bitcoin being bought by the federal government.
Quite the opposite, actually.
And the scam, if it was a scam, worked out really great as Bitcoin has dropped down to 83,000.
That's back up.
No, it's back down.
It's up and down, up and down.
But it was close to 108,000.
It dropped down after, you know, it took too long because, of course, everyone's in on the scam.
It took too long for the strategic Bitcoin reserve, and now Trump came out with a meme coin.
Oh, no!
And now it's down below 85,000.
And there's good reasons for that because a lot of people were stupid and believed exactly what Rachel Maddow said.
That there will be a strategic Bitcoin reserve and the government will be using your tax dollars to buy more Bitcoin.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
And I think it's actually a great executive order.
And here's his announcement of it during the crypto, crypto conference.
Yesterday I signed an executive order officially creating our strategic Bitcoin reserve.
And this will be a...
Virtual Fort Knox for digital gold to be housed within the United States Treasury.
That's a big thing.
The federal government is already among the largest holders of Bitcoin, as you know.
Really one of the largest holders in the world with as many as 200,000 Bitcoin obtained via civil law and various other forms of law, including enforcement actions.
These existing holdings will form the foundation of the new reserve.
The Treasury and Commerce Departments will also explore new pathways to accumulate additional Bitcoin holdings for the reserve, provided it's done at no cost to the taxpayers.
We don't want any cost to the taxpayers.
Now, this, of course, was not the actual big news from this roundtable, which I will play in a moment.
But just briefly on the executive order, I like the fact that it starts off with the background saying Bitcoin is the original cryptocurrency.
The Bitcoin protocol permanently caps the total supply of Bitcoin at 21 million coins and has never been hacked.
As a result of its scarcity and security, Bitcoin is often referred to as digital gold.
And then it says because there's a fixed supply of Bitcoin, there's a strategic advantage to being among the first nations to create a strategic Bitcoin reserve.
Then the executive order is very clear that no Bitcoin will be purchased.
If any Bitcoin is acquired, it has to be budget neutral.
Now, that doesn't mean that you can't say, hey, I'm going to fine you.
Company, Apple, whatever, Google, they find people all the time.
Pay it to us in Bitcoin or any other way.
But that really, so anybody who was gambling on that to be a big catalyst was very short-sighted and just got caught up in hype.
The real news came from Scott Besant, our openly gay treasury secretary.
How come they don't mention that?
That's mentioned now and again.
Not really.
Well, they don't push it because it's a Republican and a gay.
You can't have the gays thinking that they could be Republicans.
We want to keep them on the Democrat side, so don't talk about it.
If you're in the media, you're talking about them being gay.
You're doing the wrong thing.
You're not helping.
You're not helping at all, exactly.
But here was the big news as far as I'm concerned.
Much of Treasury's responsibility in this order relates to the tax code and determinations around risk weightings.
And I'm here to assure you that we're going to work with the control of the currency, the IRS, and we're going to resend and amend all applicable, both previous guidance.
Okay, so that was kind of hard to hear in the second part.
I didn't hear it.
Well, he's saying we're going to change the tax code, which a lot of people think means that there may not be capital gains on selling your Bitcoin.
I'm skeptical of that.
But here, hopefully you can hear this next part.
And we are going to put a lot of thought into the stablecoin regime.
And as President Trump has directed, we are going to keep the U.S., the dominant reserve currency in the world, and we will use stablecoins to do that.
Thank you.
The trillion dollar coin.
Exactly as I predicted.
Yeah, you've been, I have to say, you've kind of, even though you don't have it, I'm going to hate to use this word, sussed, since you brought it up earlier, out completely.
I think you're right.
Yeah, they're going to, they're going to, no, I do have it sussed out.
And by the way, talking about openly gay, Tammy Bruce is now in the administration.
Yes, she is the spokeshole for State Department.
State or defense?
No, I think state.
She's the new Psaki.
Or she defends.
Maybe she is defense.
But she's openly gay!
Yeah, it's crazy.
LGBTQ rights being violated again.
Not to be held back, Fifi Lagarde came out, president of the European Central Bank, and in as much announced the digital euro coming this October.
On your second point, I tend to share your views.
Nature doesn't like vacuum.
She is a robot.
We started working on the digital euro way back.
Actually, when I started my term five and a half years ago.
And I'm not claiming, you know, parentality on...
She's totally claiming parental rights to it.
...the digital euro because my colleague, Benoit Coré, had already committed a speech on this matter before I arrived.
But I certainly carried on with that project.
And subsequently, Fabio Panetta on the board and then Piero Cipollone.
Yeah, okay, we get it.
You did it.
You're the best.
The deadline for us is going to be October of 25, and we are getting ready for that deadline, but we will not be able to move unless the other parties, the stakeholders, as I call them, Commission, Council and Parliament, So
I'm thinking, since this is a central bank digital currency, That's how the EU is going to finance their weapons industry.
Just make a whole bunch of these digital things.
Hmm?
This is a house of cards.
Yes.
Of course it is.
The whole thing is, well, by the way, you have so much digital, everyone's going to be, your savings is going to be digital.
So I'm going to have $100,000 in the bank, let's say.
I'm a rich person living in France, and the next thing you know, I've got $50,000.
What happened to the rest of it?
Well, you're helping Ukraine.
It's for the good of the country.
Do you want war, or do you want $50,000?
Was it in Cyprus that had all this digital thing, and they just took everyone's money?
Okay, all the savings accounts and everybody that lives here, half of your money is gone.
That was the Russians.
The Russians did that, didn't they?
I think the Russians closed it down.
I don't know who did it, but I do remember it happening.
It was just like, well, what are you going to do about it?
Hey, what happened to my money?
It's gone.
We took it.
I want it back.
And it's gone.
It's like that star at the South Park.
And it's gone.
It's like you don't get it back.
This is the way it is.
This is by law.
It's going to be interesting.
I mean, Rachel Maddow could have talked about the stable coins as Beanie Babies.
I would have been in on that.
That would have been better than what she did.
Well, she said herself that she doesn't know what she's talking about, so there you have it.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
In the morning to you, the man who put the C in crone.
say hello to my friend on the other end the one, the only, Mr. John C.
In the morning!
In the morning to you, Mr. Adam McCurry also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air, subs in the water and all the names of the knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the troll room let me count you for a second 2,452 I think that is a little below our recent average.
Yeah, for our weekend.
Because it's because we expected a blurt?
A blurt, yes.
And we got nothing.
Well, I mean, we didn't.
Oh, the average chart is not loading cotton gin.
Oh, man.
I hate it when that happens.
Yeah, we expected a blurt.
I didn't really.
I mean, and you know what?
Oh, here we go.
The average Sunday last show was $27.59.
The last 10 shows, $25.51.
So we're below the average.
We're below the average for the last 10 shows.
Well, of course, you'd be going offline for a long time.
It could have hurt some of that.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, man.
Is that Australian?
We'll put an asterisk.
That's the Australian gear I've got.
It's made in Australia.
Who knows?
Yeah, by Elmer Fudd.
You get what you pay for.
Anyway, those trolls are here to listen to the show live.
And I think a lot of the trolls actually enjoy when it goes wrong.
I know Mimi hates it.
But everybody else seems to like it.
Oh, this is funny.
It's not working.
You're in denial of the lower numbers.
What do you mean?
Not everybody must like it because the numbers have fallen off from the average of 25 to 24. No, that has to do with your newsletter.
It has nothing to do with me going offline.
The trolls listen at trollroom.io.
They also can listen on a modern podcast app.
Today, I'm going to say that a good one to try is Castamatic, if you're using an iPhone.
Castamatic is a very nice iPhone app.
You can find many of those modern apps at podcastapps.com.
The good thing about these podcast apps is they let you listen to the live show in addition to...
And this is going to...
Eventually, Apple's going to do this.
Radio stations around the country are starting to understand that you can do this because there is no central app, really.
There's no central place to get your radio stations.
And now, you know, like, no agenda stream.
That's a radio station, basically.
So you can listen to the stream.
You get an alert when we go live.
And when...
Planet Rage with Darren and Larry goes live.
They send an alert, too.
You can listen to that in your podcast app.
And also, when you release the podcast episode, you get notified within 90 seconds.
Boom, you're good to go.
No more waiting for an hour and a half for Spotify.
What was that for?
Are you bored of my talk?
Yeah.
No.
It was a moment of excitement.
Wow, you should do that more often.
I feel it's very exciting.
Very exciting.
Thank you.
Thank you for spicing it up.
Appreciate it.
This program, as you notice, was not interrupted in the first three minutes and again after 13 minutes to tell you that it's Ford Truck Month.
Instead, we run it value for value, which means you're laughing, but there's a lot of Ford Truck Month ads going out.
That's funny.
Not really.
I wonder if they gave, you know, Leo is the one that was the original.
He had the Ford Mustang, right?
No, he sold it once they gave.
No, no, but wasn't he advertising the Mustang?
No, he was advertising Ford.
Ford tested their marketing with the Twitch show.
He ended up buying the Mustang, by the way.
They didn't give it to him.
I don't know how that works.
No, he did that wrong.
Yeah, I know.
He doesn't know how to do it.
He still buys phones that he uses.
I don't get that either.
I want to be a good journalist.
I don't want to get, hey, I'll take anything for free.
Yeah, I'll talk about it.
That's what you do.
That's what you do if you're a real pro.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, so they tested with him, and I think that they found that there's moments when it's usable.
I don't know whether he got any Ford truck promos.
I heard of Ford.
Go ahead.
I'm just saying, it sounds like a lot of people did.
Oh, right.
He was pitching the Ford Sync.
Remember that horrible entertainment system?
The Sync.
Oh, yeah.
We're the future of in-car entertainment.
Okay.
Way to go, Ford.
Way to go.
No, I actually heard the Ford Truck Month ad during the Midas Touch.
Oh, really?
Those people aren't buying trucks.
It's very strange.
Midas touch people?
Yeah.
If they bought a used Volkswagen, it'd be a miracle.
So we run a value for value, which means whatever you get out of the show, you just hand it back.
Whatever that is, time, talent, treasure, you can do stuff.
Lots of stuff can be done for the show.
Get more people into the troll room, for instance.
Get more people listening.
Tell more people how great we are.
I love how the new engagement farming, You've got a podcast and of course we knew from day one we don't want guests on this show.
It's the worst possible podcast strategy you can come up with because booking guests and getting them to sound right and getting them to show up on time is a nightmare.
You do not want to do that.
So now all these podcasts who have been built upon the Joe Rogan model Boy, we have open conversations for hours with people.
It's really entertaining.
So they go on X and they post, who should I invite on for my next guest?
And they all do it.
They all wind up doing it.
They're hard up for guests.
Yes, and then, so you see a whole row.
At Adam Curry, at The Real Dvorak, at Adam Curry and at The Real Dvorak.
These guys, they're the best podcast in the universe.
He invented podcasts and you should have them on.
Not a single time ever have I gotten a show booking out of that.
But I appreciate the effort.
It never works.
They have no desire to talk to me.
I don't know why.
But you're a jerk, maybe.
I'm not a jerk.
No, you're not actually.
You're a good guest.
Here's the problem.
No, here, I'll tell you what it is.
Oh, okay.
Well, good.
How can I change this?
Well, it's because you know too much.
Well, I can't change that unless I get on the special K. You know too much.
And you're also a knee-jerk Republican.
But even though you're not, I know you're not a Republican.
Republican?
You seem like a Republican to them.
Well, but this, I'm talking like...
Patrick Bet David.
Oh, they're not going to put you on.
Why not?
Because I know too much.
Yeah, I think it's because you know too much.
And you'll call them out.
That show, those guys value tainment.
I mean, right there is a ridicule bait for you.
You're right.
Value taming.
You're so right.
I would start it off with, I hope to bring more value taming to your program today than ever before.
You could go on Glenn Beck again.
I think you fit there.
But see, Beck tried to hire me, and I said no, and I think that that put me in bad graces with him.
He wanted me, hey.
Well, then he's very pretentious.
He's got to be, and he seems so.
That if you bring a guest on, you like the guest, you like this guy, well, he should be working for me.
He brought me back.
He had me on twice.
Oh, okay.
Did he try to hire you the first or second time?
The second time.
And then he wouldn't bring you back after that.
Well, he was like, you know, I'd really like...
So he brought you in...
Okay, he brought you in as a pilot.
Yep.
So it's a pilot episode.
Pilot test.
That is pretty good.
Let's bring him back on.
This time we'll throw the pitch at him, see if he wants to work for us, and disappear off the face of the earth.
No offense.
No, no, no.
Not to be fair, he wanted me to be his every Friday guest on the show, on the radio show.
Every Friday?
Yeah.
How's that?
Hmm.
That's an interesting idea.
No, it's not.
I don't want to work for anybody.
I don't want...
No.
Well, you can just take a quick drive to Austin on Fridays.
You're not working the show.
Here.
Why don't you take a quick drive to Austin?
No, I'd have to fly in and just be on me.
This is not an exit strategy.
No, I don't want...
This is some icing on the cake.
No.
Some promotion for this show.
Ah, there it is.
There's the true John.
You don't care about me.
You don't care.
You just want to work me like a slave, like a monkey boy.
Dance, monkey boy.
Dance.
You can do it.
Drive to Austin.
You nailed me.
No, I'm not going to do it.
Anyway, because I like Beck.
I think it's fun to be on his podcast.
And I've been on his radio show.
I like him a lot.
But just the phone's not ringing anymore from Dallas.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know.
Oh, he's in Dallas?
I thought he was in Austin.
No.
Oh, he's in Dallas.
You're right.
Yeah, he's got that dynamite museum.
Oh, that's too far.
Yeah.
No, but it could just be a phoner.
It could just be a phoner.
Oh, that stinks.
Anyway.
We also enjoy it when people just send us money because that really does help keep the show going.
It has worked so far for 17 years with its ups and downs.
And did you throw out a sad puppy?
Sad puppy's in play.
Sad puppy's in play.
Well, anyway, we always want to thank the people who support us financially.
And it was a nice list today.
Sad puppy is in play.
Yeah.
We thank everybody.
It takes the content out of the newsletter.
I had two problems.
One, I have the Easter Day wrong that I heard from a couple of people.
What are you talking about?
What is Easter month?
One guy says.
And of course, Jay calls me immediately after the newsletter goes out.
I looked it up.
I said, and this is a mistake.
First time I made it all year.
When is Easter 2024?
I asked Google.
Oh, instead of 2025. And so, and what triggered that, what triggered the Easter thing is that last Wednesday was Ash Wednesday for all the Catholics virtue signalers.
Big patch of ashes on their forehead and show up on TV. That's not virtue signaling.
That's a part of their vibe, man.
It's a part of their...
Okay.
You can know what you want.
Okay.
But I'm looking at Janine Pereira, whatever her last name is.
Pirro.
Judge Janine Pirro.
And she's got a smudge on her face.
It's the size of New York City.
It's a big mess.
And she's talking away like there's nothing different about it.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
It was a clip, I didn't get it, of Byron Donald.
Byron Donald?
Yeah, Byron Donald.
And he's grilling the mayors about their...
It was quite funny.
I heard this clip, yeah.
And then he had the mayor from, was it Boston?
The woman, the Chinese woman?
Yeah, and she had the big Ash Wednesday cross on her forehead.
Yeah.
So I always thought Ash Wednesday, being a former Catholic, was always near Easter.
No, it's 40 days.
It's the beginning of Lent, 40 days until Easter.
Well, okay.
Okay, Mr. Big Shot.
How come you didn't notice in the newsletter that you proofread that I was way off on Easter?
Because I don't look at content.
There's no content in the newsletter.
I'm just looking at spelling mistakes.
And I saw it was a short newsletter.
I'm like, okay, I messed up!
I missed it.
Sorry.
I should have caught that.
You're right.
So I had Easter wrong, so I'm sorry.
I apologize for that mistake.
It is now a collectible.
Yeah.
That newsletter is a collectible.
It's a collectible.
Bonehead move on my part.
But it was a short, content-less newsletter because...
Except for the one, you know, the hypocrite of the week.
I always have that.
Because it was a plea for more donations because it was getting ridiculous and the numbers that came in that morning were terrible.
Yeah, and you are able to gauge that quite accurately after all these years.
You know that if the numbers are down that it's not going to get much better.
You have made a science out of that.
You should write a book about it.
Honestly.
It's coming out right after the vinegar book.
And give it to the Valuetainment guys.
So we always thank everybody who supports us with $50 or more.
We're very transparent in this.
We mention the people, unless they want to be anonymous, and how much they donated.
And we have all kinds of...
Well, we don't have any of the Patreon levels.
You don't have to subscribe to get the show.
We just give you the show.
We just love giving you the show.
People used to put the show on CDs.
When CDs were still a thing.
Maybe vinyl.
It wouldn't be great to have the show on vinyl.
Oh, that would be great to put a show on vinyl.
So that would be a triple box set.
Each show would be a box set of three vinyl.
Yeah, because you can only get about half hour on a side.
Yeah, that would be cool.
Now, as I said, there's many ways that...
Actually, I forgot the artist.
I can't believe I forgot the artist.
I'm sorry, artist.
In fact, one artist, we want to thank the artist who brought us the artwork as a part of the time and talent portion of Value for Value.
Episode 1744, we titled that Eula for Ukraine and Tan Stafel, which I forget what the acronym means again.
There are...
There's no such things for free lunch.
Yes, there you go.
Brought us the No Agenda Fried Dodo Bucket, which we thought was very...
There were a number of good dodo...
First of all, for people who missed the show, you missed a doozy because we found out that Dodo Bird is quite delicious.
Notoriously so.
Notoriously delicious.
So, and, you know, as we always say, bad art only comes because we didn't give anybody, you know, we didn't have a great item in the show.
And your Dodo, three clips, and I really thought, you know, it started with the woolly mice thing.
It's like, oh, where is this going?
And there was a massive shaggy dog.
You paid it off with the dodo, the delicious dodo.
And I don't know about you, but...
That's why they went extinct, largely.
Because people were eating them?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
And they were easy to catch, because they were dumb.
And so that's where the word dodo comes from, because they're dumb.
I mean, they were called dodo birds, and then the moniker, you're a dodo, came from the bird.
Because they would just stand around and say, oh, okay, what are you going to do with me?
Why are you picking me up?
Okay, oh, you're killing me now.
Oh, now you're eating me.
What's going on here?
And they were just good eating and easy to get, and they were just dynamite, so they had no chance.
But they could be bred.
I think a big, giant dodo farm.
The Dutch didn't have any foresight whatsoever.
No, they just ate them all.
Stupid Dutch.
I wish we could talk about the rest of the art, but the art generator seems to not be responding at the moment.
Do you get any response from it?
I'm not getting any response.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you should be able to upload your art.
Oh, I got a cloud flare error.
Oh, that's no good.
If you can't upload it, then email it to John.
John at Dvorak.org.
John at Dvorak.org.
Email it to him if we can't upload it.
People are making the art during the show.
Oh boy, it's going to give dreb headaches.
Otherwise we're going to end up using a piece by Darren.
Open thread.
You don't want that to happen.
Noagentartgenerator.com, thank you very much.
Tan Stoffel, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Now to the donors, $50 and above.
In this segment, we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers.
The way that works is $200 or above.
You get the exclusive title of associate executive producer for this episode.
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The same goes for our executive producers, $300 or above, and we will read your note.
And we kick it off with Anonymous from Pennsburg, PA, with $515.38, which I'm pretty sure is $500 plus the fees for PayPal.
We appreciate that.
And Anonymous says, what is the threshold for the ring thing?
How long have you been listening to the show?
Are you just going from show to show and collecting goodies?
It's $1,000.
You become a knight of the Noagent Roundtable.
That is not just a ring thing, although you do get a handsome signet ring, which you can use to seal your important correspondence.
We supply the wax with that and a certificate of authenticity.
And it's also great for picking up chicks.
Thank you and respectfully, says Anonymous.
And we thank you very much, Anonymous.
Yeah, we also thank Brian Moss, who came with the exact same amount, 515.38, Rancho Santa Margarita, California.
And he writes, the No Agenda show is the antidote to the exaggerated polarization that we are being fed through the M5M and social media.
Yeah, that's exactly true.
That's right.
And then he says, you're a blessing to the world.
I wish more would listen.
I wish more would listen, too.
You know, I wonder if that, I wonder if JC picked up that Trump VP rumor from social media.
Is that possible, do you think?
He's not like a social media nut.
He seems like a blue sky kind of guy.
Well, I don't know.
Definitely not that.
Okay.
Andrew Glenn is in the UK. Oh, there we are.
A UK listener who has the balls to support us.
You could go to jail over this.
$509.
I guess they get a discount.
I don't know what that is.
After over 13 years of douchebaggery since my last donation, your hilarious Mad Lib section, as in the Lib Joes from show 1744, which I hope you will occasionally reprise, gave me the necessary shove.
Here's proof, John.
People love that kind of show.
What are we doing messing around doing this?
He needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
So please find my donation of $500 plus a bit extra for expenses.
Thank you for the position of Commodore.
And I intend to follow this up in a week or so with a further donation which will take me to knighthood.
And with that will be a slightly longer note.
In the meantime, I guess you better deduce me.
You just did that.
And can I also have some yacht selling karma?
Oh, it's one of those guys.
Oh, brother.
Andrew Glenn, there you go, brother.
Thank you so much.
You've got karma.
We go to Indianapolis, Indiana to Sir Greg, who also comes in with $500.
And he says, nice short note says, thanks, thank, thanks for all you two do for us.
Karma for everybody.
Sir Greg of Parts Unknown.
You've got karma.
Catherine Knight is in Mesa, Arizona, executive producership for her, and she comes in with $400.33.
That cannot be an accident.
ITM, she says, this donation allows me to become Dame Cack, roamer of the Hawes Hills.
At the round table, I'd like filet mignon, medium rare, with Borsac mineral water, which we...
Borsac.
Oh, that's it.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
Well, we had it shipped in from Romania, so I hope it's the right stuff.
Is Barsec something different?
No, Barsec's a sweet wine from Bordeaux.
No, I think this is the Romanian mineral water.
Barsec.
Keep up the good work.
I rely on you for a sane view of the world.
Ah, another soul saved or created.
Perfect.
Brandon Mango in Midland, Pennsylvania, 35093, and his note is the best so far.
He says, Love the show.
And we love you.
Sir Dr. Sharkey, Jackson, Tennessee, 333.34.
Dear Adam and John, I apologize for my absence.
Life happened.
But I'm back.
De-douche me just to be safe.
You've been de-douched.
You guys haven't lost your touch.
Hearing you break down the BS brings some sanity back to the world.
Looking back, I first donated to No Agenda in February of 2013. It's been the best value investment I've made.
Also known as value-tainment.
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Nero Consulting in New York City.
Nero Consulting.
33333. No note, so Nero Consulting gets a double up, Karma.
You've got...
Karma.
Onward to Nathan Rottier.
Eureka River, Alberta, Canada.
See, they don't hate us.
They still consume our products, tariff-free.
333.33 executive producership for you.
I was going to wait until my usual annual donation, but the newsletter was getting more and more dire, so here's an early one.
Hey, good job, John.
See, he didn't care.
He didn't care about your canard.
Jingles Hot Pockets and a C-35 guy.
What in the world is this?
P.S. Special thanks to Eli the coffee guy.
Hot Pockets.
In the bathroom taking a shave.
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
That's not the right one.
Oh, how did I get that one wrong?
That's the long version.
What was that?
Well, that's the guy.
But I needed the ISO, I guess.
Yeah, this is it.
I said, what in the world of this?
There you go.
Now we have Ronald Pokrant, or Pokrant, parts unknown, 333.33, note unknown, so he'll get a Double Up Karma.
You've got...
Double Up!
Karma.
Commodore Brennan.
Perrysburg, Ohio, 333.33, our last executive producer for this show.
We're very grateful for that.
I mean, grateful that we have so many.
And he says, the sad puppy in the newsletter always pulls at the heart.
How could I resist a call to action like that?
Well, we're glad that you didn't resist, we much.
This donation also puts me over knighthood status.
Henceforth, I would like to be known as Sir Commodore Brennan of the Black Swap.
Please add knufla soup.
Am I saying that right?
No idea.
Knufla.
Knufla.
Maybe it's just knufla soup to the round table.
And he wants to hear some mac and cheese.
And he says, thanks, Commodore Brennan of the Glass City.
You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.
Mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Hey, everybody.
Christy Zeitz in Hampton Bays, New York, will be our first associate executive producer.
$250 on another fabulous note.
She says, thanks!
We love notes like that.
Rachel Epperson is in Chicago, Illinois, row of ducks, 222.22, and she says that she emailed the note, but I did not receive anything from Rachel.
Did you receive anything?
Well, now I should go look and do a search on the email and find out.
I read the Epperson, E-P-P, let's try it.
E-P-E-R-S-O-N, I think.
No.
Okay, well, email is back, Rachel.
Happy to, we're happy to give you a make good.
Yeah, I got nothing.
Eric Reinhart comes up.
San Antonio, Texas, 21060, and he says, Newsletter donation indubitably.
Indubitably.
Beautiful.
205 from Todd in Northern Virginia.
John, get ready with your noisemaker, because he says, In the morning, John and Adam, I was enjoying another fine episode, fully engaged in the deconstruction, when suddenly, chimes?
Oh, the chimes guy.
Cue chimes.
Chimes?
At first I thought I was hearing things.
Was it the wind?
The sound of God?
No, it was John masterfully deploying his donation-driving Chime Psy-Op!
And you got me.
The subliminal percussion worked.
My hand involuntarily reached for my wallet, and now here I am, sending in a donation like some kind of activated NPC. Well done, gentlemen.
In fact, you got me so good that this donation pushes me over the top for knighthood.
So please knight me as Sir Todd of the Jingling Winds.
Please pass the mutton and mead and keep those sweet, sweet chimes a-comin' in the morning.
That's good.
Last on our list, we got Linda Lupatkin.
There she is in Lakewood, Colorado.
Hey, what happened to Eli the coffee guy?
I guess he missed.
He missed the deadline.
He always comes in very late at night.
Well, anyway, I'll just give him a plug for gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
Boy, because you had too many cups today again.
Linda Lupatkin, Lakewood, Colorado.
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And again, thanks to these executive and associate executive producers.
Our formula is this.
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Shut up.
I want to add a couple of thank yous for the people who, I got three Ohio State hoodies.
Oh, nice.
It works.
One of them from Dreb Scott, who sent a terrific design.
One of his buddies did it out of Detroit.
Really?
And then I got another one.
There's also a red one that came in.
I don't have the guy's name.
I want him to write me so I can give him a thanks on the air.
But also I got...
Another hoodie, plus a bunch of souvenirs, including a small icon, a doll called Brutus, which I guess is the Buckeyes mascot.
Horrible looking animal.
From the Park Street Law Group, Jay Madison in particular.
Or Jeff, Jeff Madison.
And he sent in a hoodie plus some other stuff, and I want to thank him and everybody who's followed up, finally, from Ohio State, one of the greatest universities in the world.
Okay, all right.
Don't use bingit.io to hear previous remarks.
Well, previous remarks are null and void.
So very sad, very sad news that Mimi's theory was wrong.
Wrong, I tell you.
About Gene Hackman?
Yes.
Yes, it was.
It was more grotesque.
Yes.
Depending on which version you've heard.
Tonight, New Mexico authorities with tragic revelations to a week-long mystery, saying Gene Hackman died of heart disease and complications from Alzheimer's, likely a week after his wife Betsy died of the rare deadly disease Hantavirus.
The cause of death for Mr. Gene Hackman, aged 95 years, is hypertensive and atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease.
With Alzheimer's disease as a significant contributory factor.
The cause of death for Ms. Betsy Hackman, aged 65 years, is hantavirus pulmonary syndrome.
Hantavirus is transmitted to humans by mice.
There's been less than 900 cases since the CDC started tracking it in 1993. Hantavirus can be transmitted to people through rodent urine, droppings, or saliva.
The couple, married for 30 years, were found dead inside their Santa Fe home by a neighborhood caretaker February 26th.
Hackman, found in the mudroom, appearing to have suddenly fallen, Betsy in the bathroom with pills scattered on the counter, her body further decomposed than her husband's.
Based on the circumstances, it is reasonable to conclude that Ms. Hackman passed away first, with February 11th being the last time that she was known to be alive.
Officials say pacemaker data indicates Hackman likely died February 18th.
Does this mean Gene Hackman was likely home with his deceased wife for a week before he passed away himself?
Yes, I would assume that that is the case.
This is a very, very bad day for these people.
It was gruesome, this whole idea.
Hantavirus.
Hantavirus.
They had a number there.
What was the number of cases, they said, total?
900 or 600?
Yeah, it's not very big.
I actually have a...
It's bigger than the measles.
Hello.
We're going to get to that.
I have a hantavirus clip from 99 that explains the hantavirus.
When CDC investigators compared the antibodies from the outbreak victims to those in their vast file of known diseases, they made a surprising discovery.
The only sample that was in any way similar.
was one that was 40 years old.
It was a sample taken from a soldier stationed in Korea in 1950. During the Korean War, more than 3,000 troops developed high fevers and kidney failure.
About 400 died.
Doctors called it Hanta virus because it was traced back to Korea's Hantan River.
That region was home to large numbers of striped field mice.
Feces and urine from infected mice carried the virus.
When it dried out, it became airborne and was then inhaled by the soldiers.
From there, the virus attacked the kidneys.
Wow!
Wow.
That's from the forensic files.
Does that sound right to you?
Yeah, it's a terrible product.
They didn't explain the dog.
Did the dog just starve to death?
Well, they did say that there were pills scattered on the floor.
No, no, no.
On the counter.
Not on the floor.
On the counter.
Well, I'm skeptical.
And did the dog...
The dog needs to be explained.
Maybe he did starve to death, but he could have eaten one of them.
That's what dogs would do.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Maybe he ate some of her and got Hantavirus.
I don't know.
Well...
Story continues to unfold.
I got a note from one of our producers.
I was listening to the show.
Couldn't help but chuckle during your Oscar Awards talk with John today.
And, of course, we were talking about Gene Hackman getting very, very little airtime for his illustrious and lengthy career.
And our producer says, I work with the tribute package team for award shows.
Huh?
I know, it's ludicrous, the people that we have listening.
It is well known in our little circle how much of a hard time the Oscars seems to have with their in-memoriam package.
This is industry inside stuff you'll never hear about.
Brunetti, listen up.
I don't work on that show specifically, so I don't have any really good inside gossip to share with you, but it's very common for a final product to be harmed by internal board member politics.
I've witnessed it many times in the past and can only imagine how egregious it is at the Oscars.
Yeah, I can imagine.
Yeah, of course.
Was Hagman a Republican, or what was the deal?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Supported Trump?
That could be.
Possibly.
Although I don't think he did.
I don't think we didn't hear much of him.
Anyway, since you brought up measles...
The Big Pharma is on a trip with this measles thing, man.
This unbelievable what they're coming up with now.
This is CBS. In today's health watch, the measles outbreak is showing no signs of slowing down.
Get this.
Last year, there were a total of 285 cases.
At least 164 cases of the virus have been detected so far this year.
Two unvaccinated people who were diagnosed have died.
A child in Texas and an adult in New Mexico.
We know measles is a severe and potentially deadly virus, right?
But a lesser known fact is how the virus can damage the immune system, raising the risk of other infections even after the person has recovered.
It's called immune amnesia.
Have you ever heard of this bullcrap?
No.
Immune amnesia.
So first of all, potentially deadly virus.
Yeah.
The flu...
Antivirus is worse.
Yeah, the flu is...
And the numbers are higher.
The flu kills tens of thousands of people a year.
But okay, it's about vaccines, obviously.
Let's bring in Celine Gounder, a doctor.
How exactly does measles wipe out immunity to other viruses people have already been exposed to?
That confuses me.
Well, we know of other viruses.
It's confusing because we've never heard of this before ever.
No.
Confuses me.
Well, we know of other viruses that infect the immune system.
HIV is probably the best known one.
Measles infects immune cells, and when it does so, it damages immune cells, and it wipes out partially your memory, your immune system's memory to certain infections.
So that leaves you more susceptible to getting some of those infections.
Now, we have an animation here to help you understand how this works.
They literally have a drawing of two jars with colored balls in it.
Let's say you have two babies.
As they grow.
They're not babies.
They're jars with balls in it, Celine.
Their immune systems mature and they both gain immunity to different infections, which is represented here by the different colored marbles.
Okay.
One baby gets vaccinated against measles at age one and then later age four.
That baby gains immunity to measles through vaccination, which is what you're seeing here with the red marbles.
Okay.
There we go.
The other baby doesn't get vaccinated and is not immune to measles.
At age 5, both kids will start school and the unvaccinated child gets measles.
So if that kid is lucky, it's a mild case and they don't need to be hospitalized.
They develop immunity to measles from...
I need to stop right here.
How do you get a mild case of the measles?
What does she mean by that?
The only thing I can think of is that your immune system is strong, and therefore the effects of the measles are not as strong on you.
I don't understand a mild case.
There has to be something like that, because I remember when my son JC had chicken pox.
He had a mild, I would have to say it's a mild case because there were like two pox.
Two pox?
He was a two pox Shakur.
He was a two pox.
It was like ludicrous.
Okay.
So strong immune system, those Dvorak's.
That kid is lucky.
It's a mild case and they don't need to be hospitalized.
They develop immunity to measles from the infection.
Wait, how many kids were ever hospitalized from measles?
That's a really bad case.
A normal case, you wouldn't get hospitalized.
You don't have to be a mild case.
Oh, you can be sick.
This story's bullcrap.
Oh, but this, they're doing this for a reason.
They develop immunity to measles from the infection.
But immunity to other infections is weakened, and that leaves them at higher risk for other infections.
That's because the measles is damaging your immune system and erasing that memory to other viruses.
Bull.
That was digestible.
Thank you for putting it like that.
Dennis Schott would do the same thing to you, because that gives you a mild case.
Ah, this is the question.
Can you fix that with boosters?
So if somebody's been infected with the measles, is there anything they can do to regain the immunity that they've lost?
No, it's just time.
Time for your immune system to build back up and recover.
Build back better.
The best thing is not to get measles in the first place.
And the best way to do that is to get vaccinated.
Because we were always told that once you get it, it lasts your lifetime.
Once you get vaccinated, yes, you're covered for your lifetime.
One dose gets you to about 95%, two doses to 97% coverage.
Well, then you're not covered for your lifetime.
And it was 93 in other reports, but now it's 97. So pretty much if you've gotten your measles vaccination, you are set, you are immune.
Oh, John, did you get a measles vaccine?
No, I had the measles.
Yeah, I had the measles too, but, you know, pay attention.
So if you were born after 1957, but vaccinated before 1963, you may not have immunity from measles infection or vaccination.
Really?
Because that's an age group also where the vaccines that we had available were not as effective.
So if you're in that very specific age group, again, born after 1957, vaccinated before 1963, you may want to get a measles booster.
Just get a booster.
Whatever it is, get a booster.
It can't hurt.
What can it hurt?
Just get a booster.
Now, this...
Immunity amnesia, which I really question the validity of this, but this is a, you know, CBS, it's Big Pharma pays their bills, so, you know, we've got all this anti-vax stuff out there, so we might as well try it with this one.
How long does that immunity last?
I mean, the amnesia.
I'd never heard of the phrase immune amnesia.
Because it's dumb.
Do the effects of that last?
Well, from studies, it can last months to a couple years.
So, you know, it really does set a child back.
And back before kids were being vaccinated for measles, it's estimated that half of the deaths were actually from other infections they got later because of that weakened immune system.
This is fear-mongering on parents.
That makes me have to play these COVID clips.
Wait, wait.
I've got to play the last one because it's all about RFK Jr., obviously.
There's so much information out there, but it's different when it comes to the White House.
Earlier this week, in a Fox News interview, HHS Secretary RFK Jr. supported some unconventional treatments for measles, including vitamin A and cod liver.
Are these effective tools?
I mean, what does science tell us?
Oh, please!
Are you kidding me?
What the science?
Science for cod liver oil.
Look at your face.
It's like you're struggling to hold your face straight.
Your lip curled up a little bit.
So you have cod liver oil, which has vitamin A. What is cod liver?
Cod liver oil.
Oil from the cod liver.
Cods from a fish's liver?
Yeah.
That's been around for centuries.
Okay.
But it is a good source of vitamin A in very malnourished kids in developing countries.
Studies showed that it helped reduce certain complications for measles, in particular blindness.
But that, like, you don't see that in the U.S. Less than 1% of kids have that kind of thing.
So, you know, unfortunately, this is not very good advice.
It's not very good advice because it comes from JFK Jr. It's not good advice.
Before you do your COVID clips, I have two clips from McCullough about the measles specifically.
Good.
Yes, because he'll give us some rundown on this, even though he sells pills.
Yeah, he does sell pills.
I was going to say cod liver oil, because we don't get enough omega-3s.
It's loaded with that, too.
It's a product that's been around for centuries.
Yes, because cod liver oil, in fact, all of the Nordic countries, they...
Gobble this stuff down.
When I was in Iceland, I remember going to the grocery store.
I always go to grocery stores when I travel.
And there was like an aisle, an aisle of cod liver oil and cod oil and fish oils.
It was just like, there must have been a thousand examples of it.
It was unbelievable because you need this stuff for...
You have lack of sun.
There's all kinds of reasons to have this stuff.
It's good stuff.
It's good stuff.
All right, here's McCullough.
He's on the Del Bigtree show.
Our media and public health officials, I think, have to be far more responsible in this type of reporting.
And just to level set, our CDC says anybody born before 1957, Del, it's assumed that they've had measles.
There's just a broad assumption that that's the case.
I was born in 1962. I had a single measles vaccine at age 2, and I had another one at age 20 when I entered medical school, and that's because I didn't have immunity.
I didn't have antibodies against measles, and now a paper from Bianchi on colleagues from Italy has actually done that exact study of medical students entering medical school.
And the answer is about 20% of those who took the measles shot do not have effective immunity, according to Bianchi and colleagues.
Now, the answer is if they've had measles during childhood, about 6% may not have adequate immunity.
So clearly, natural immunity beats vaccine immunity.
And now our CDC is reporting as of February 27th, 2025, we have 164 cases in the United States of measles.
In Alaska, California, Georgia, Kentucky, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York City, Rhode Island, and Texas.
So it's not just the Mennonite community in West Texas.
And you know what?
Last year, in 2024, we had 285 cases.
So, Del, measles is something that does occur sporadically.
It is spread by respiratory aerosol spread, and it's a morbilliform rash.
You know, we have other illnesses that have very similar rashes for which there's no vaccine, including hand, foot, and mouth disease caused by a Coxsackie virus.
Oh, man, Coxsackie.
That's a frightening one.
Christina had that as a kid.
Actually, I had Burke's clip, so we'll skip her.
Here's the last of the McCullough.
And this is a very interesting little tidbit.
Prior to the MMR vaccine, prior to vaccinating for measles, Infants that are the only really truly susceptible group of children that are in danger of measles.
You do not want your day one old, one month old, two month old, five month old infant to catch the measles.
At that age, it is dangerous.
No doubt about it.
But here's what's shocking.
The numbers, when we look back in the 1950s and 60s, had very few infants that died.
The reason being that their mothers passed on measles immunity to the baby at birth.
How did that happen?
Every mother that caught the measles as a child kept that immunity through life and once they started having their own children, that natural immunity passed on to the infant, to the baby.
They were protected for at least six months, oftentimes a year, and if the mother breastfed that child, that immunity could last up to a year and a half long.
But certainly at six months to a year, now that that immunity given by mom wears off, now the child is at a place where they're healthy enough to handle a measles infection.
It was amazing.
Nature, or God, if you will, had done an amazing job at protecting our babies.
But then we started vaccinating every person in this country starting in 1963-64 depending on how you look at the data.
And we've been vaccinating ever since.
Here's the problem.
No mother that's been vaccinated with the MMR vaccine for measles passes anything on to their infants.
Our infants now have zero protection whatsoever.
Well, thank you, Big Pharma.
That's great.
That's just great.
Wow, there's your ironic story of the day.
Yes, that's just great.
Yeah, it's medalers.
You medal, you pay the price.
That's right.
All right, we'll wrap it up with your COVID stuff.
Okay, so Montana's got a law they're going to pass to stop all mRNA.
Oh, really?
No genetic anything.
Montana, there's about, I think, four or five other states trying to do this.
And so there's a doctor that comes out and gives a pretty good rundown, just so we remind everybody.
I feel sorry about anybody who's got the vaccine.
I mean, if you got the vaccine, you got the vaccine, you're probably okay.
But it has issues.
And I wanted to play these clips of the woman's testimony.
There's three short clips.
Well, the second clip's a little longer than it should be.
This is the woman coming on and giving a nice little rundown on why they should pass this law and take this vaccine off the market.
It's ridiculous.
My name is Christine Drivdal-Smith.
D-R-I-V-D-A-H-L hyphen S-M-I-T-H. I am a family physician in Miles City.
I have no conflict of interest.
I am a volunteer board member of the Montana Medical Freedom Alliance.
Gene-based vaccines, or mRNA vaccines, are the most destructive and lethal medical products that have ever been used in human history.
I'm asking you to support this bill banning gene-based vaccines so that we can halt continued harm, disability, and death of our citizens.
Gene-based vaccines include the COVID-19 shots and there is one other RSV shot that was approved for this past year for older adults.
There are ongoing trials for influenza and bird flu, and there are dozens more in development.
The COVID shots were rolled out just over four years ago under emergency use authorization or EUA.
This has been renewed multiple times.
The last renewal was in December of 2024 and extended the EUA until 2029, which also extends the liability protections.
Wow.
Under EUA, the FDA may allow use of unapproved medical products, including experimental products.
Further, the regulatory procedures do not apply to the EUA products, which explains why the FDA has not withdrawn these dangerous vaccines.
I'm glad you're ending the show on a happy note.
This is great.
We're not ending the show.
Well, this is going to end the show.
I mean, we're three hours already.
It won't fit on the vinyl if we don't hurry.
Yeah, but a lot of the three hours is trying to get the machines.
No, no, no.
This is the actual recording, 2.57.
Yeah.
Sorry.
No, it's not your fault.
I love this.
I just, I feel that we're leaving people with a downer.
We're going to make this approve these vaccines.
They never have.
No.
Bull crap.
They haven't.
Okay.
By the end of 2024, there was over 38,000 deaths reported to the VAERS system, with a known underreporting factor of 31 to as much as 100.
There are over 3,400 peer-reviewed studies in the medical literature describing injury from these vaccines, including cardiac arrest, myocarditis, blood clots, immune suppression, autoimmune disorders, cancers, neurological disorders, autoimmune disorders, cancers, neurological disorders, prion-induced disease, pregnancy harms, and miscarriage.
Every highly vaccinated country has had a significant increase in all-cause mortality, a decrease in life expectancy, and a decrease in fertility.
Thank you.
These vaccines do not prevent disease or transmission.
In fact, the more shots one receives, the more likely they are to get COVID. Over a year ago, it was discovered that the COVID shots are contaminated with DNA. This has now been confirmed by multiple labs around the world.
The amount exceeds the regulatory limits by as much as 400 times.
The presence of this genetic material increases the risk of cancer in the recipient.
And this foreign genetic material has now been found within dividing human cells in a petri dish and in colon cancer biopsies.
These mRNA vaccines, like other gene therapy medical products, can be shed to others via blood, body fluids, excrement, and airborne.
Bleh.
And that those exposed via shedding can experience adverse reactions.
As you can see, there are no benefits and only the potential for harm.
And yet, 23% of Americans continue to receive boosters.
The American College of OBGYN continues to recommend COVID shots to pregnant patients.
And the CDC has added the COVID shots to the pediatric vaccine schedule starting at six months of age.
So tell me at the end of this testimony, they all go, thank you very much for coming.
We're just going to keep on using them?
I mean, this is very depressing.
I'm sorry, but here we go.
This will wrap it up.
There have been ever-increasing calls for an immediate ban by professional groups all across the globe.
Five states' attorneys general have filed a suit against Pfizer for misrepresenting the effectiveness of the COVID shots.
And just last week...
Citizens filed a petition with the FDA to remove these products because the DNA contamination was not revealed to the regulators.
The drug companies, the regulators, the federal government have failed to act.
We all know that the hands of justice move slowly.
time is of the essence i've spent over half of my medical career in emergency medicine and during a trauma code the most important thing is to stop the bleeding so i'm asking all of you to use common sense and montana let's get this done attitude we must we must ban gene-based vaccines in montana so will this ever
Be admitted by RFK Jr., considering President Trump is so proud of Operation Warp Speed.
This is the big question.
He even touted it during his not State of the Union by saying that he had...
It's a problem.
This is a real big problem.
It would be dynamite if he just said, you know, I was wrong.
How about that?
I was wrong.
He's never done that.
This is his flaw.
Yeah.
He can never admit to being wrong.
I have a couple of just Ask Adam clips, which are a little lighter.
You might find it more amusing to end the show with these.
Okay, hold on a second.
It doesn't say that.
These are gut-filled.
Oh, but don't I need an Ask Adam jingle?
You would, yeah.
Ask Adam.
I can do it.
You know what's happened?
I have a million...
Clips called Ask Adam.
Here it is.
Ask Adam.
Ask Adam.
Will he know or will he want?
I don't know, but here we go.
Ask Adam.
Ask Adam.
Answer the question.
Go!
All right.
I'm ready to answer the question.
Okay, so I'm going to play the first clip.
Actually, the question for you comes after the second clip.
And it's not going to be that hard.
Okay.
This is Gutfeld playing a Rogan clip of Bill Murray talking about Bob Woodward.
Now, we've talked about Bob Woodward's inability to tell the truth.
Yeah, he's a spook.
Including, yes.
Here's the clip that's the setup, and this is the Gutfeld-Woodward setup.
The day comes from Joe Rogan's podcast where comic legend Bill Murray discussed Bob Woodward's 1984 book Wired about the late John Belushi.
As far as Murray was concerned, the book was so inaccurate he had to wonder if Woodward's reporting on Watergate was also full of crap.
Watch.
I read like five pages of Wired and I went, oh my god, they framed Nixon.
All of a sudden I went, oh my god, if this is what he writes about my friend that I've known for half of my adult life, which is completely inaccurate, talking to the people of the outer, outer circle getting the story, what the hell could they have done to Nixon?
Okay.
I have nothing to answer yet.
The Russ Baker book discussed all this great detail.
So Gutfeld now goes around the table and he's talking to everybody.
And then out of the blue, he pulls out a little piece of choice tidbit, and the Ask Adam part is, see if you can easily spot what is kind of the missing piece of this.
M-Cat, do you know Woodward's background before Watergate?
Do you know, do you want me to tell?
She doesn't want to tell.
He had no experience.
He was a naval officer.
And then all of a sudden he gets a job at the Washington Post and quickly breaks the biggest story of the century.
Interesting.
I know.
No, this is all f***ed up.
So the red flag for me here, too, on Woodward, and this has happened in various others of his books as well, where people have called him out and been like, well, that's not true.
The piece that's missing?
Yeah.
I'm surprised you didn't hear it right off.
No, I didn't.
Gutfeld says that Woodward was a naval officer and then leaves it at that without ever mentioning that that's not the important part of him being a naval officer.
He was a naval intelligence.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's Gutfeld.
Why does he leave that out?
That seems to be the key.
It wasn't that, oh, he's a naval officer that went to work for the Washington Post.
Was he a journalist in the Navy?
What was he doing there?
He was a naval intelligence officer that went to work for the paper.
He could have been a bosun.
He could have been a swabby.
A swabby.
A swab in the lobby.
A deck swabby.
By the way, Gutfeld is another one of those people who post on X, who should I have on the show, and everyone says me.
And I never get invited.
I would be great.
I would kill on that show.
Because they give you scripts.
They pretty much give you scripts.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
Alert the Affiliates, everybody.
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Coming up, we have dynamite end-of-show mixes.
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Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be, triggered or held lame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Well, I don't have a snowball's chance in hell here today, because I already know you've got a great ISO for the end of the show.
So I'll just play the one that I brought just for yucks.
In a word, balls?
No.
Now you're not even trying.
I'm not, I'm not, because you're just killing me with these choices.
You've got some well that just never runs dry.
What are we going to play first?
Well, here we go.
Let's start with this one.
All three of these are good.
Let's start with better.
That was better than a podcast.
Oh, God, this is so good.
Yes.
What's your next one?
Didn't we have podcast?
Everybody's got a podcast.
Everybody's got a podcast.
This is really done right.
What's the last one you have?
Wow, that.
Wow, that show was hot today.
Oh, close second.
Everybody's got a podcast.
Wow, that show was hot today.
I don't know, man.
What do you like best?
That's hard.
It's a hard one.
You know, I think this is tough, but I think if we go with the mumbler, the guy, everyone's got a podcast, I think it fits, and then I can move these other two.
I won't have to go digging for more.
I won't have to do anything for the next two weeks.
Everybody's got a podcast.
All right, everybody.
We have a podcast, but not everybody has John's tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me, just a tip with JCB.
And sometimes Adam.
This is a product you'll find here and there, and it's an important product for people who have wheat issues.
And Mimi has become one of these people.
Yes, we know.
And it's not just the gluten thing, but the gluten-free stuff is what you have to look for.
At least that's a start.
So if I make pancakes, I just take any flour and I put some baking powder in it, mix it up with some salt.
Shake a salt and put an egg and some buttermilk and mix it up and there's pancake.
It's a pancake.
Yes.
But it's got wheat, obviously.
And I don't like pancake mixes, but I have to say there's this one pancake mix, gluten-free, from a company called P.A.N. Pan.
P.A.N. And they have a gluten-free pancake mix that's a mix of flours and starches.
And it tells you instructions how to make it, but I just use it, throw an egg and buttermilk in it.
I don't care what they tell you to do, just as though it was a flour mix.
And you make a pancake from this stuff, and I don't think anyone in the world could tell that this had no wheat.
And it's the stuff I bought for Mimi because she can have a satisfying pancake that you'd swear was the real deal when it's not.
It's just a blend of crazy flours and starches.
And it's P-A-N gluten-free pancake mix.
P-A-N gluten.
You know, Tina won't eat any pancakes.
And she makes great pancakes.
So I'm going to see if we can get some of that.
Maybe she'll eat it.
P.A.N. They have it.
Mexican stores carry this brand.
It's online.
You can get it all over the place.
They have a bunch of different pancake mixes, but the gluten-free one is the one that surprises me how good it is.
Everybody has a podcast, but not everybody can tell you how to make the best gluten-free pancakes.
I'm sorry.
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That's it for our deconstruction for today.
We hope you had an enjoyable time.
We certainly had a good time.
And maybe I'll be able to salvage the backup recording.
Otherwise, hope you enjoyed that messed up audio at the beginning.
It's fantastic.
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Oh, Bandrew says.
That's the microphone guy.
Well, I won't even mention it.
Episode 412. I'm not going to say anything.
Yeah, I already did.
He's the microphone guy who would test our microphones and give us a glowing review.
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Adios, pofos!
A hooey, hooey!
And such.
The price of eggs.
The egg prices. The egg prices. The egg prices. Out of control.
The egg prices. The egg prices. The egg prices. The egg prices.
Tonight, Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin.
Who's not, not a Putin Putin Putin.
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What was Ukraine?
Who was Ukraine?
Where was Ukraine?
President Putin.
President Zelensky. Joe Biden. Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin. Russia. Vladimir Putin. Ukraine. Vladimir Putin.
Bombing Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin. Russia. Ukraine. Putin said.
Ukraine says.
When it comes to Ukraine.
Putin invaded Ukraine.
What Putin was.
When Ukrainians defend their democracy.
Ukraine.
Brutal invasion of Ukraine.
President Vladimir Putin.
The Russian offensive against Ukraine continues.
Russian atrocities.
President Zelensky of Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine.
I really hope that you and President Putin get together and can solve your problem.
That would be a tremendous achievement, and I know you're trying to do that.
Did you underestimate Vladimir Putin?
Putin's intention to press on with his brutal assault on Ukraine.
And Russia.
Russian missiles continue to rain down on the port city of Odessa.
More scenes of carnage in Ukraine.
Ukraine is a centrally located strategic country in Europe.
Donald Trump repeatedly asked his Ukrainian counterpart, Vladimir Zelensky to investigate the former vice president.
Joe Biden.
Russia's president, Vladimir Putin.
Do we need to be prepared for the continued destruction of Ukrainian cities?
Putin is the great disruptor.
Putin's military is falling apart.
There's a price to pay for peace and democracy.
Please, again, my request, don't trust Putin.
If you're blue and you don't know where there's fake news, why don't you get your Gitmo fix?
Putin on the reds, dressed up like a million-dollar trooper. - Oh, my God.
Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper.
Superpooper!
Come, let's mix where John Podesta walks with kids.
Oh, I mean pizzas in his mitts.
Putin on the Ritz!
MoFo.
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