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No Agenda Episode 1707 - "Sweet Seventeen" "Sweet Seventeen" Executive Producers: David Rosa Dame Lady Getoverit Dame Jen, legal drug dealer of the Cedar Valley Sir Tyler in Alaska Sir Craig Allen of Gila River Ryan Jones Sir Veyor, Commodore of the Northern and Northwestern Lakes Sir Cliffy Sir Roger Dame Lizzzardi Robert Querback RAY HARRIS Dimitri Hossain Anonymous Sir EA of the Tax Domain, Barron, Phd Sir Q of DeElmore Baron Greasemonkey Commodore of the South Sir James of the Derby City, PhD Anonymous Nathan Noel Keaton Stone Patrick Browne Sir P-rez, Commodore of FL330 Sir Cut Bored Jeremy Fort Dame Meowdison Baronet Sir Il Pope di Ciclismo Sir Joe McGuillicutty Shannon Vest Quirano Sir HairHeel Brian Gardi Associate Executive Producers: Eli the coffee guy chris fisher Alex Sir Rob.Lawyer Constitutional Lawyer Linda Lu Duchess of jobs and writer of resumes Annie Breglia Commodores: Commodore David Rosa Commodore Sir Hopscotch Commodore Sir Billy Bon3s Commodore Dame Lady Getoverit Commodore Jennifer Hughes Commodore Tyler Commodore Craig Allen Commodore Ryan Jones Commodore Sir Veyor Commodore Greg Clifton Commodore Roger Commodore Matt The Metal Bende Commodore Robert Querback Commodore Harris Commodore Skeiln Commodore Sharky Commodore EA Commodore Q of DeElmore Commodore Zachary Stockstill Commodore of the South. Commodore Jim Turner Commodoreship to George P. Burdell Commodore of Nederland Commodore Keaton Stone Commodore Dude named Ben Commodore Sir P-rez of FL330 Commodore Sir Cut Bored Commodore Fort and the Trio Fleet Commodore Dame Meowdison Commodore Sir Il Pope Di Cliclismo Commodore David West Become a member of the 1708 Club, support the show here Boost us with with Podcasting 2.0 Certified apps: Podverse - Podfriend - Breez - Sphinx - Podstation - Curiocaster - Fountain Title Changes Sir Tom > Sir Veyor, Commodore of the Northern and Northwestern Lakes Sir Il Pope di Ciclismo > Baronet Sir Il Pope di Ciclismo Black Knight Sir Rob.Lawyer Constitutional Lawyer Knights & Dames Jennifer Hughes > Dame Jen, legal drug dealer of the Cedar Valley Tyler > Sir Tyler in Alaska Craig Allen > Sir Craig Allen of Gila River Greg Clifton > sir Cliffy Aubin Q > Sir Q of DeElmore Andrew Perez > Sir P-rez, Commodore of FL330 David West > Sir Joe McGuillicutty Art By: Francisco_Scaramanga End of Show Mixes: Nukez3k - David Keckta - Prof J Jones Engineering, Stream Management & Wizardry Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman NEW: and soon on Netflix: Animated No Agenda Sign Up for the newsletter No Agenda Peerage ShowNotes Archive of links and Assets (clips etc) 1707.noagendanotes.com Directory Archive of Shownotes (includes all audio and video assets used) archive.noagendanotes.com RSS Podcast Feed Full Summaries in PDF No Agenda Lite in opus format Last Modified 10/27/2024 17:07:09This page created with the FreedomController Last Modified 10/27/2024 17:07:09 by Freedom Controller  

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	And they've literally scared their own pants off.
	This is No Agenda.
	Celebrating 17 years and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in FEMA Region No.
	6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all asking the same question.
	What the hell's the appeal of Snoop Dogg?
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I was asking that throughout the entire Olympics.
	I'm like, what is the appeal of Snoop Dogg?
	And people love him somehow.
	Who?
	A Snoop Dogg.
	His agent, for sure.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Oh, boy.
	Yes, it's time to roll out the big horns like we do from time to time.
	17 years.
	Congratulations, John.
	Congratulations to you.
	Listen to these numbers.
	We did it.
	Yeah, we did.
	We're still alive.
	We're still here.
	So it's 17 years, episode 1707, on October 27th.
	That's a lot of sevens.
	Ah, sevens.
	New number.
	That's very, very good numbers.
	Very good numbers.
	Yeah.
	So what do you say?
	Four more years?
	Four more years!
	Four more years!
	I think we make it to 20...
	If one of us hasn't died by then, 21 years has got to be enough of this.
	You never know.
	And right before the next election.
	Right before.
	Right before it.
	Yeah.
	Which should be a whopper.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Yeah.
	Well, it was nice to see Joe...
	Showed everybody that podcasting is kind of important.
	I like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It shows that also Trump can talk forever.
	Ah, the weave.
	Well, it's beyond the weave.
	I've noticed a couple of things.
	I was reminded of Jim Rome.
	I talked about Jim Rome and his sports talk show a number of times in the past because there are elements of what he does.
	It was somewhat revolutionary, although Rush Limbaugh is the main guy.
	In other words, the guy goes on the air and talks for three hours.
	Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
	They take a call, maybe.
	Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
	And Rome would talk, if he was going to talk about a topic, he would repeat the topic three or four times from different perspectives.
	In the same segment?
	Or with different intonations.
	Oh, just keep going that way?
	And he would do that for three hours.
	Trump, right at the beginning, he's going on about something and he comes back to it and he comes back to it and he comes back to it.
	I have to say that after listening to Rogan in this context, I put him in as a good cop police interrogator.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Excellent interviewer.
	Over the years, he's become one.
	And he managed to, without being a jerk, push Trump right back onto the track that he wanted to hear about.
	Because he had interests that he wanted to hear about.
	Aliens, JFK. And he would push Trump back.
	Because Trump roams around.
	He'll come around to some old stories.
	Look at this chart, Joe.
	Look at this chart.
	Yeah.
	He had handouts.
	And I got no clips from it.
	Because, for one thing, it was boring, I thought, because there's nothing new to us.
	If anything, I think it just showed Trump's personality and willingness to just sit and have a chat for three hours.
	And that was really what made it fantastic.
	I mean, that's what made it great.
	Because we know that in the past, calls have come in from Ivanka and from Eric and what's the other one?
	Don Jr.
	Like, yeah, yeah, really?
	I want to have dad on the show, but you got to come to Mar-a-Lago.
	And I think, you know, Joe was like, no, I'm not going to go to Mar-a-Lago.
	You come here and there'd be no time restriction.
	And I think that's really the win here.
	For Joe and for Trump.
	Because it was a calm, relatively calm.
	Joe will never have to go anywhere.
	If Trump, if all people, Trump.
	Exactly.
	Had to go there.
	And that means everybody has to go.
	So that was a super win for Joe because he doesn't obviously like to go in the remote.
	No, of course not.
	Of course not.
	And why bother?
	And so now he's got it made.
	But I have clips from, I thought was, at the same time that was going on, Tucker was interviewing Amaryllis Kennedy.
	Oh, she's the CIA daughter-in-law?
	Yes.
	Married to RFJ III. RFJ? RFK. RFL, whatever.
	RFK III. She's married, and she...
	I don't know, we can run these clips later if you want, but...
	Well, she...
	Yeah, go ahead.
	She went on for an hour, two and a half hours, and unfortunately it was like about an hour of content because she was, you could tell, you don't know if she's still a spook or because she was, you could tell she was very cautious.
	She was not used to doing this.
	I've never seen her before.
	I've never seen her.
	And she was very measured in what she said about everything, but she said a lot about And there's a lot of inside stuff that she brought out.
	Well, I do want to talk about that.
	I just want to stick with Texas for a moment.
	I'm going to weave it around to you, John.
	Good luck.
	I'm going to weave it around to you.
	So what was fascinating about a lot of this Rogan thing, I think J.D. Vance was on Theo Vaughn, which I haven't seen it.
	People said that was quite entertaining.
	And that J.D. Vance came off very good.
	Vance is better than Trump, I think.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Well, he's the translator.
	Except he looks like a kid.
	If you looked a little more mature, I think it would be better.
	The dark eyes is kind of weird.
	So, the big thing that everybody was waiting for here in Texas, a little further up the street in Houston, was, once again, the PSYOP played out by the mainstream media on people who love Kamala.
	We have some big news to share for the Harris campaign.
	Big news!
	And the Beehive, none other than Beyonce, will appear with Vice President Harris tomorrow in Texas.
	We're learning, and NBC's Erin Gilchrist is covering the Harris campaign today from Georgia, where she's set to appear with Bruce Springsteen.
	Erin, the boss today, Queen Bee tomorrow.
	What more do we know?
	Queen Bee tomorrow!
	You know, this is news that a lot of people have been waiting to hear, whether or how Beyonce might show her support for Vice President Harris.
	And we have learned from three sources our team has that Beyonce will appear with Vice President Harris tomorrow in Houston, Texas.
	And the source says that Beyonce will perform during that appearance in Texas, obviously where she's from.
	So again, the, oh, she's going to perform, and of course she did not perform.
	She did not perform.
	And I think a lot of people were disappointed once again.
	They were booing Kamala.
	They were booing.
	They were leaving.
	And some people had waited 10 hours, supposedly.
	This could be bullcrap, but I can believe that they would.
	10 hours for a free concert.
	Yes, yes.
	And then, Beyonce comes up on stage.
	And talks about how she's a mother.
	She's here not as a celebrity.
	Pay no attention to the outfit, to my entree.
	I'm not a celebrity.
	I'm here as a mother.
	It's impossible not to feel the energy in this room, the positivity, the community, the humanity.
	We are at the precipice of an incredible shift, the brink of history.
	I'm not here as a celebrity.
	I'm not here as a politician.
	I'm here as a mother.
	Listen to what she says.
	She's here as a mother.
	A mother who cares deeply about the world my children and all of our children live in.
	A world where we have the freedom to control our bodies.
	There it is.
	I'm here as a mother to kill your baby.
	That's what I'm here for.
	That's who I am.
	I'm Beyonce here as a mother.
	Right away.
	Right away.
	That's all that they have now.
	No, they have two things.
	No.
	Well, Trump is Hitler and kill babies.
	So here's a short one.
	So Trump is in Texas and here's your typical report.
	And former President Trump also made a stop in Texas yesterday.
	While speaking in Austin, he compared Biden-Harris' border policies to garbage.
	We're like a garbage can.
	We're like a garbage can.
	First time I said it was last night.
	It was amazing.
	Speech in Las Vegas.
	29,000 people.
	Who is it?
	An arena.
	We set the arena record.
	That was a big deal arena, too.
	We set the record, but it was an amazing crowd.
	The first time I ever said it, I said it, I don't know, it just came out, garbage can.
	It's like a garbage can for the rest of the world.
	Trump also appeared on the popular podcast, the Joe Rogan Experience.
	He then left for a rally in Traverse City, Michigan.
	The former president will be in New York City on Sunday for a rally at Madison Square Garden.
	I see Kyle!
	He's going to Madison Square Garden tonight.
	And of course they showed a picture of Joe with his eyes all popping out.
	Oh, let's get the worst photo of Joe possible.
	That's what you do.
	In a way though, in an interesting way, it was kind of revealing for YouTube.
	Because I think Joe texted me like 10 o'clock Friday night.
	And I'm like, is it up already?
	No, it's been up for an hour.
	And so, then I look at it and it has a million views.
	It's a three-hour show.
	How can it have a million views in one hour of release?
	It can't.
	It can't.
	So, you know, obviously.
	All right.
	So how many seconds are you counting, YouTube?
	Anyway, I think it's up to 30 million now.
	And that's just YouTube.
	We were combating people pirating this feed on the index.
	We had to...
	Last night, like, aha, there's another person who's trying to get it in there.
	Everyone's trying to steal Joe's juice.
	So, it's quite the...
	That's what you do.
	Yes, just quite the podcast.
	Quite the podcast.
	All right, so now I think we should listen to The Spook.
	Well, there was some other comment I wanted to make about what you were going on about.
	Going on about?
	Yeah, what's her name showing up and then not doing any performance?
	Oh yeah, Willie Nelson ended up being the performer.
	Did you know that part?
	They left that out at most reports.
	No, I mean, I saw Springsteen from the night before, and I don't know.
	I wanted to clip it.
	Like, this has to be doctored.
	It was so bad.
	He did Dancing in the Dark acoustic and it sounded so off and awful.
	I believe it.
	I don't know.
	I mean, is that really Bruce?
	I didn't want to clip it for fear of, you know, looking like a fool.
	Yeah, but it didn't sound good.
	Well, Willie Nelson was the guy who ended up performing instead of Beyonce, and they showed a picture.
	He's 91.
	Go Willie!
	He looks like hell, of course, but then again, he's always looked like hell, so there's no big deal.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, he was the headline.
	Can you imagine you want to see Beyonce and you end up having to watch Willie Nelson?
	Nothing derogatory about Willie Nelson, but yeah, that seems like a bad program.
	Even Bruce Springsteen!
	These kids don't want...
	I mean, it's just no.
	No.
	I don't know.
	This is probably Laureen Powell Jobs.
	Like, yeah, I can make a call to Bruce.
	I can make a call to Willie.
	Can't make a call to Queen Bee, though.
	Can't make her perform.
	She's not crazy.
	No, and she's not going to do acapella or anything.
	Yeah.
	Went for B, stayed for Willie.
	No, probably left at Willie.
	Anyway.
	So Amaryllis comes on to talk to her.
	Now, we've played clips of her...
	Talking about her spook career at the CIA. I can't quite remember, but there was something like the old guard was, she's the new guard, and the old guard was kind of chiding her.
	Do you remember any of this?
	Not really.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	But I'll say a couple of things about her.
	She looks like a spook.
	She's got that girl spook look, you know, the one that goes in the field.
	She was a fake art dealer.
	Oh, right.
	That was her cover?
	Her cover?
	It's called an uncovered spy, I think, where she wasn't working for the, you know, she wasn't in as a diplomat or anything at the embassy.
	Right, so it's not registered, is what we say.
	She's not registered.
	You're just a real freak.
	You're really out there.
	Real spook, yeah.
	Real spook.
	And she was, you know, mostly in Europe, I think in Asia, but she never went to South America.
	She does talk about it, though.
	Now, the clips I have are very specific ones about certain things.
	One is the first two clips, and unfortunately, the first clip is the setup for the second clip.
	And these are long clips, all of them.
	Because again, and I cut out all the pregnant pauses I could.
	Good, good work.
	It's still too long, and she's still, you just hear her grinding the gears about, can I say this?
	Can I say this?
	Can I say this?
	She's got her spook filters up.
	They're way up, and Tucker's good at trying to get her to talk as much as she can, and she does bring out, and there's really these three clips which amount to about six minutes of material, really bring out two very, I thought, two very interesting points.
	Hold on one sec, I only see two.
	You have three?
	It should be Amaryllis on classification, Amaryllis on classification, and Amaryllis on media corruption.
	No, I do not have that.
	I don't have her on media corruption.
	Well, they're all set in the same batch.
	Well, I'll double-check the batches while we start.
	If we can start with the other one, do you need to start with media corruption?
	No, no.
	Media corruption is last.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'll check.
	So they're talking about, and I broke into it about halfway through their discussion of over...
	Because they're talking about bringing out the Kennedy docs and some of these other things.
	And so they're discussing the over-classification, which is a discussion topic of...
	I don't know.
	I know way before this show ever began, it was always being discussed.
	Oh, they're over-classifying, they're over-classifying.
	And she brings out some reasonable, an explanation for some of it, but it's in clip two.
	But let's listen to her setup, and here we go.
	I don't understand the justification for that.
	And I don't know why nobody demands, like, why not declassify it?
	Like, why shouldn't, it's our country.
	All these people died.
	We should know.
	Right.
	Right.
	And I agree entirely, and I agree, I mean, the same applies for the 60s.
	I think, ultimately, you know, when most Americans go to work for a third of their working week, they are working for the government.
	They are taking that money, having spent the day away from their families, sacrificing money.
	Whatever they would prefer to be doing and they don't get to keep any of it.
	They turn it all over to the government.
	The government works for the people directly.
	I mean, they are directly paid by the people.
	And if your boss asks what you've been doing and, you know, you say, sorry, I can't tell you it's classified.
	It doesn't cut it, you know, and, you know, are there are there moments where, you know, the actual identity of a source who's, you know, preventing nuclear war with the Russians is at stake?
	Sure.
	But they're actually quite few and far between.
	And, you know, I think there is a bureaucratic inertia here.
	Some of it is some of it is CYA and some of it is, you know, probably more nefarious than that.
	But there is also a lot of bureaucratic inertia, and it's one of the reasons I'm excited about the prospect of Elon getting in there, to do some surgery on some of that bureaucracy.
	But CIA 101, when you start, you have this one-week...
	You know, fill out your tax forms, get the same as you would with any other job, like nothing sexy about it at all.
	There's just here's the insurance program and the person who's going to work in, you know, the coffee shop is sitting next to someone who's about to go down to the farm.
	It's just everybody goes through it.
	The email client that you use there looks a lot like Gmail.
	I mean, it's provided by Google.
	And it has all the normal fields.
	And then an additional field that's for classification.
	Wow!
	Okay, a couple things.
	One, she's borderline frying in the vocals, which is a little irksome.
	Yeah, totally.
	Two, Tucker needs some help.
	He's got a hum going on there in the background that is crazy.
	I don't know if you hear that.
	And three, what?
	Gmail?
	They're using a Google product at the CIA? Yeah, well, here we go with the real kicker, though.
	And everything she's about to tell you, having worked in an administrative state myself, I believe this all to be true, and it's a disaster.
	And here we go.
	It's an additional field that's for classification.
	And it's a drop-down menu.
	And when it first drops down, it's all checkboxes with their own subsets.
	And it's hundreds of different classifications, all different numbers and codes.
	And you can hover over them and they say when to use them.
	But there are a lot.
	And we were told in that first day, you know, in that first course, you know, just to make it easy on yourself, pick HCS 404, checkbox it, hit save as favorites.
	It'll come up every time and then you don't have to worry about it.
	Well, that's, you know, human compartmented sensitive information.
	It's usually reserved for, you know, the actual identity address or identifying details of a source that whose life could be in danger for what they're doing.
	And yet here it's being used for, you know, I'll meet you at 430 at Dunkin Donuts and everything in between.
	And the problem with that is that it is completely exempt from any declassification threshold ever.
	And as a result of this kind of administrative tweak, which is either just to save people time or maybe to, you know, reduce the number of things that will ever eventually be published.
	Now you have class after class after class of CIA officers that, you know, just chronically make sure that every single email they ever write will never see the light of day.
	And I think that is being done across government.
	literally the default is secrecy from the public.
	Yeah.
	The default is you will never know.
	You never know how much money was spent, what it was spent on, whether it was legal or Whether you spent that Tuesday away from your family working to pay taxes and those taxes went to kill someone or went to save someone's life.
	There's no accountability.
	And there's no way to know.
	Surprise, surprise.
	So the default is set up right at the get-go from day one as a maximum and impenetrable classification that never can be released, ever, by the nature of the process.
	Just like the JFK stuff.
	So you can say, well, let's just declassify all this crap.
	You can't do it with that classification.
	And that including the meet-up at the Dunkin' Donuts is now super classified to never...
	To see the light of day.
	This is ridiculous.
	First of all, gambling?
	The CIA is doing this?
	Not surprised?
	At all?
	But they're not the only ones.
	You have to assume they're all doing it.
	Of course.
	Because that's the easiest way to go.
	On Gmail.
	On Gmail.
	Right.
	You gotta wonder if it's encrypted at all.
	I mean, the fact that Gmail...
	You're just using a browser.
	Okay.
	That thing's really secure.
	All of that sounds really secure to me.
	It just sounds like a...
	Well, we have a lot of spooks who will weigh in and let us know about this email product.
	I'm sure.
	Yeah, they'll probably just confirm what she says.
	Yeah, probably.
	What's her to say, you know?
	Yeah.
	Can you bring your own iPhone and use that as long as you use Gmail?
	Okay.
	Way to go, guys.
	All right.
	I have the clip.
	I found it.
	You're right.
	I found the last one.
	Okay, now they're talking, this is another, by the way, this went a long time, this interview, and it was, I think people should go track it down.
	No, it's that good.
	It's that good.
	You recommend it.
	It's a JCD recommendation.
	I recommend it.
	If you can put up with the vocal fry and the pregnant pauses and the pacing.
	Is she doing that because it's the filters or because she's interesting?
	She's not interesting.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What she has to say is interesting, but she doesn't present it in an...
	She's not an interesting person.
	She's just a kind of...
	I don't know how to...
	She's not uninteresting.
	She's not like a big dud.
	But she's just so...
	There's a retitency.
	She's like...
	It's a halting style that...
	Oh, can I say this?
	Can I say that?
	You can just hear it going on in her head.
	Can I say this?
	Do you think she's a little affected by being the campaign manager for RFK Jr.?
	Because he also talks like that.
	Not that he can help it.
	Maybe they're just in sync with each other.
	That's an interesting idea, because that's actually a possibility.
	So here, now they're talking about, we've talked about this on the show, she just confirmed something.
	She does bring in a new point that I never knew about, and I think it's kind of funny, and it's at the end, but they're talking about media corruption and the spooks that are in the media that are...
	That are either helping the CIA... Wait a minute!
	There's spooks in the media?
	I thought the church commission got rid of that.
	There is a piece of information that comes that, you know, is not gambling.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Can we play?
	No, wait.
	Let me finish the setup.
	And so, because I'm trying to keep, this is already two minutes, and it's like a couple minutes before it, you know, it could have been used, but I didn't want to do it, so I wouldn't explain it.
	So there, you know, and of course, Tucker's like aghast at all this stuff, even though he's always wanted to be a spook, says so in his bio.
	So he's like, you know, listening.
	How come I couldn't have done this job kind of thing?
	And...
	She's talking about the people that got, you know, recruited and then do the bidding of the agency and then the people that are obviously working for them now.
	And then she brings in some stuff that I didn't know.
	Which is the oldest exchange in the world.
	Well, maybe the second oldest.
	I've seen it.
	And it goes on, you know, every day.
	There's no doubt that there are also actual formal sources throughout the media.
	And always have been.
	What does that mean, a formal source in the media?
	I mean, you know, an asset.
	Somebody that would be paid by intelligence organizations to work on their behalf, play stories on their behalf.
	They literally come on CNN and it says CIA agents.
	I mean, how surprising is this?
	Yeah.
	Paid by intelligence.
	No, but what she's saying, no.
	I think that's different than a guy who's a reporter for the New York Times or a correspondent for NBC News who doesn't say CIA agent under it.
	It'll say something like Richard Engel.
	It'll say something like that.
	Or Jake Tapper who just happens to be at the birthday party of the CIA director.
	Just coincidental.
	Yeah, it would be something like that.
	Fair, fair.
	Organizations to work on their behalf, play stories on their behalf.
	And, of course, that happens, you know, all across the world.
	But when it happens in the United States, then it's the end of democracy, of course.
	Well, look, I mean, we have CISA... Operating basically a Jira ticketing system for any tweet that the White House chooses that they would like to see deleted, even if it's...
	Wait a minute.
	Jira?
	They're using Jira?
	Seesaw.
	No, Seesaw is using Jira, is what she just said.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, she says...
	And I'm not sure what she's referring to.
	Yes, I am.
	Jira is a ticketing system, an open source ticketing system that I believe was compromised...
	In the SolarWinds hack.
	I'm glad you have that information.
	Yes, but that's what they're using.
	Okay, well, sure, that and Gmail.
	That the White House chooses to, that they would like to see deleted, even if it's in jest, even if it's satire, they just put it in the ticketing section.
	Can you explain what SISA is?
	Yeah, well, what's interesting about SISA is that it's a part of the Department of Homeland Security's But it's supposed to protect our nation's infrastructure from terror attacks.
	And at the beginning of the Biden administration, a decision was made that information is infrastructure.
	Oh, it is now, is it?
	It has an Orwellian ting to it.
	And as a result, in order to secure it, CISA was quietly empowered with the ability, sometimes directly and sometimes through NGO cutouts, To present to all the social media companies and Wikipedia and Amazon any content that was flagged as concerning.
	Bolo alerts when I'd be on the lookout.
	Bolo.
	And they held weekly meetings and said, you know, put an enormous amount of financial pressure on these companies saying, you know, that their legal protections from liability would be withdrawn if they didn't cooperate.
	Oh yeah, well I totally believe that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, completely.
	But I never knew about the...
	Information is infrastructure.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah.
	And I was looking at the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency, which was only founded in 2018.
	Yeah, they're supposed to rig the elections.
	I mean, protect the elections.
	So, the idea that I was thinking about, can you make the argument, and I can see making it, that information is infrastructure.
	I mean, it's a stretch.
	It's a big stretch.
	You can see these bureaucrats, it's like that character that was out of the University of California, that law professor, I think it was Wong or Lee or Wang or whatever his name is, who wrote the memo about torture.
	He wrote the torture memo.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know who you're talking about.
	When he was in the hospital and they made him sign off on something, that guy?
	No, no, this guy's still around.
	No, he's not some guy who's not signed off.
	There's a lot of that that goes on, but no, this guy, this is a legitimate legal document that was...
	Used as a rationale for torture and very famous during the Bush administration.
	And that kind of thing, you can kind of, you know, if you're smart enough, you can make information, you can convince yourself that information is infrastructure and then use it as leverage.
	Well, I would say information in general, in the legal sense, creates a legal framework is infrastructure and that's just information.
	Along the same lines, no?
	It could be an argument.
	I could see it.
	By the way, it wasn't JIRA. It was Confluence.
	I apologize.
	But JIRA is just...
	It's a ticketing system.
	We had that Amoevio.
	We used JIRA. Hey, put it in the JIRA. Hey, man, this thing's broken.
	All right, put it in JIRA. It's just a ticketing system.
	That was interesting.
	Well, along these lines...
	Last night, Rob the constitutional lawyer and his lovely wife Maggie invited a couple of people to go out to dinner.
	I would say it was to celebrate No Agenda's 17th anniversary.
	I doubt it.
	No, there was a celebratory toast specifically for our 17th anniversary.
	And he invited the ER doctor and his wife, Tina and myself, and two friends.
	And I didn't know these two friends.
	And he had just hit them in the mouth, but it was in kind of an odd way where he was trying to play our last episode on the Bluetooth in his car and it kept getting stuck on sex event.
	So they don't really know about our show much, because we were talking about sex events, and then they said, well, this is an interesting podcast you're trying to play as.
	Sex events.
	Like, the only time we've ever done that.
	So they're my age, and he's a corporate lawyer now, and she is a middle school teacher.
	I'm not going to use their names, because we didn't discuss that I was going to talk about them, but hey, don't have dinner with me.
	And pretty quickly, Rob says, oh no, you'll love these guys.
	And they just live up near Plano, whatever.
	Well, in the mid-80s, where'd you guys meet?
	In the mid-80s, we met in Germany.
	Oh!
	Yeah, we were both in the Air Force.
	Oh!
	So it turns out, they were both NSA agents...
	At the Russia desk, Russia division, in Germany.
	So we had some things to talk about.
	And they didn't tell me about any of their ops, but they did have some interesting observations.
	And one that kind of relates to this is that there's kind of a joke around the intel community that 25% of the intelligence community is walking.
	And they're either walking in the Pentagon or they're walking in the hallways or they're getting from one place to the other.
	Literally 25% at all times is just walking around.
	And you could cut so much waste by just having people sit at their desks.
	And so as I'm talking to them...
	25% of the entire intelligence community is...
	Walking.
	Wandering would be probably a better term for it.
	Wandering is better, yes.
	Wandering.
	And so, you know, I'm just talking a little bit, because, you know, NSA, yeah, they do spying, but there's also some level of psychological operation.
	And so we get into some stuff.
	Because what I'm hearing around here, and we've discussed this on the last show, is the grid's going to go down.
	There will be no election.
	There are already gangs inside the country, and they have kill orders for Border Patrol.
	Oh, I'm not kidding.
	I'm not kidding.
	A lot of fear-mongering about China, that Xi specifically wants to disrupt our elections.
	And, you know, and so as I'm kind of thinking through that, I didn't discuss all of this with them, but as I'm thinking through this, there's a lot of China that is in all of these stories.
	And let's just follow the money for a second.
	Remember the Smith-Mundt Act, which specifically disallowed The propaganda on the American citizens was reformed during Obama.
	And where was it reformed?
	In the NDAA, the National Offense Authorization Act.
	So it was a military move to get that taken out.
	And this is all, you know, NSA is also a part of DIA. It's not the CIA. It's, you know, it's the military guys.
	They're part of, are they part of...
	Naval, I think?
	Yeah, because Admiral runs it, right?
	So they're part of the naval operation.
	That's not, I don't, they're totally independent.
	This is, I'm telling you from what I heard last night, they are not independent.
	They are more related to the military than anything else.
	Okay, but they're supposed to be independent.
	Oh, okay, and the CIA shouldn't use Gmail.
	I mean...
	There's no rule about that.
	No.
	CIA's independent too.
	But those guys were very irked when the FBI was using their systems to just gather information.
	Yeah, they got their passwords so they could use their crazy systems.
	We talked about this years ago.
	They're all against the CIA and the FBI. They're in a very different camp.
	So, let's just review for a moment what we have going on.
	The new psychological operations, which I believe is being passed down through ranks, through much lower-level guys.
	There's a whole bunch of guys running around who are psyching out people like Laura and Nomi Wolf and all these other people.
	Somebody's doing it.
	Well, listen, it's like...
	China.
	We have, oh, there's middle-aged, military-aged Chinese men here.
	They're going to attack us from wind.
	Chinese are buying land next to bases.
	Chinese drones are flying over bases.
	And now you think about Trump.
	Trump has already said, first of all, China, they need us as much as we need them.
	We're their customers.
	Let's just be honest about it.
	We may not need all of their manufacturing, but Trump will take their...
	They need most of it.
	But Trump will take tariffs.
	Trump with the China virus.
	Trump has a hard-on about China, so he's kind of perfect to be the next president if you take into account...
	That China, the pivot to China, you know what he's already said?
	We're going to build big, beautiful ships.
	All of this stuff is happening.
	China, China, China.
	Remember, Newland was kicked out of state.
	She didn't get the job she wanted, replaced by a China guy, Kurt Campbell.
	We played a whole bunch of clips.
	And now we have the perfect setup with the new Ukraine, which is Taiwan.
	It makes so much sense.
	Russia has old news.
	We're going to wrap that up, you know, whatever.
	It can go on for a good time, but there's no new money.
	We need new money.
	We need to build stuff.
	And then, coincidentally, this happens.
	Sources in the U.S. say suspected Chinese hackers have targeted the phones of Donald Trump and his running mate for the White House, J.D. Vance.
	Phones associated with the campaign of Democratic nominee Kamala Harris may also have been targeted.
	An FBI's statement didn't give any names but said it was investigating what it called unauthorized access to commercial telecommunications infrastructure by people associated with China.
	It was not immediately clear what data, if any, had been accessed.
	If any.
	Oh, of course.
	It's like, it's a total non-story.
	But let's not forget, we've got Taiwan in the mix.
	Paying his respects to soldiers who lost their lives, Taiwan's president reaffirmed his country's sovereignty.
	Today, gooding toe is more than just a symbol of military victory.
	It also represents our determination to protect our country.
	We will not yield an inch of ground in Taiwan.
	While Lai did not mention China explicitly, he was referring to the 1949 Battle of Guningtou against Beijing's People's Liberation Army.
	China claims it as its own territory.
	There has been a fortnight of intense military activity in the Taiwan Strait, which separates the two.
	This includes live-fire drills near the island and the transiting of a Chinese aircraft carrier group through the strait.
	On Wednesday, China's foreign ministry has said there is nothing wrong with conducting military activity in the area.
	Taiwan is Chinese territory.
	It's perfectly normal for Chinese aircraft carriers to sail in its own territory and territorial waters.
	Both sides of the Taiwan Strait belong to one China.
	Beijing severed high-level communications with Taipei in 2016 and has since ramped up military and political pressure on the self-ruled Ireland.
	So even though the military could completely run this with a Kamala Harris waltz presidency, it's much easier to go with the guy who already has a hard-on for him.
	Like, Trump has to be the guy.
	It makes no sense otherwise.
	Because they're psyching out everybody, particularly conservatives, Republicans.
	Yes.
	Yes, Harris-Walls could do it, but except if you're going to go with your thesis that this whole thing is set up for Trump because it makes more sense, it also makes more sense that it would go for Trump because Walls is a China-file.
	Yeah, he's no good.
	He's been there a million times, he got married there, he loves the place, he won't even see how often he goes, he's there...
	Excellent point.
	He's the wrong guy.
	He's the absolute wrong guy for the job.
	Yeah, he's pro-China.
	He would turn the U.S. over to China if he had a chance.
	So what we need is we need to get everybody all jacked up and make sure that we get everybody out to vote for Trump particularly.
	Particularly the Christians.
	Get everybody out there.
	Everybody.
	Oh, if you're watching online.
	How many podcasts have we not seen in the past year from the culture war economy who are all talking about China?
	And it's one.
	It's continuous.
	The drones over the bases.
	Oh, they're buying land next to bases.
	Oh, they've got police stations, which is true.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, one of the biggest ones is in Minnesota.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Yeah, Minneapolis has one.
	And you've done nothing about it.
	And Trump probably is onto this.
	He's like, oh, this is good.
	I can get the tariffs in and we can build.
	We still need an economy.
	By the way, the police station story is sketchy.
	I mean, yes, they're there.
	And there was one in New York.
	I think they rousted it.
	I think there was one out here, too.
	There's still one in Minnesota.
	Yeah.
	And they keep an eye on the nationals, and they're supposed to be, they threaten people, and then they set up shop in the universities.
	Yeah, they're horrible, these people.
	They're trying to, yeah, I can see where you can get all worked up.
	Yeah, and so we need that, we need this groundswell, and we need Trump, because besides a large amount of money that's going to be spent on this wonderful iron dome over all of America, a missile defense shield, they call it Star Wars.
	You know, he'll also get his tariffs and all that stuff will work out just fine.
	Well, you have to...
	There's an angle on that missile defense system, too, that you have to understand.
	I think it's part of it, this whole thing.
	I'm going to just back you up.
	Oh, nice.
	And it's like...
	Well, you know, Reagan wanted to do this, but the technology wasn't the same as it is today.
	So today's technology, because, you know, everything's changed since 1980, today's technology makes it possible.
	Yeah.
	And then we have the bull crap, and I have clips on this too, the bull crap that went on between Israel and Iran.
	Yeah, we'll get to that in a moment.
	Yeah, we'll get to that.
	But that, wait a minute, that incorporates this new technology because the 180 missiles that were sent over from Iran that hit nothing except some poor Palestinian who I think got hit by some debris...
	No, don't think we saw the shell fall on his head.
	It was terrible.
	It was very bad.
	And so the 180 missiles couldn't do any damage because of this new technology, which is what we're going to employ so we don't have to worry about anything.
	The whole thing is beautifully structured.
	Here's only one thing, and it's a little bit of a sidetrack, but it has to do with spooks.
	You know, one of my big eye-openers before we even started the show was the book Legacy of Ashes.
	And if you recall this, so Legacy of Ashes, a story about the CIA written by Tim Weiner from former New York Times.
	He went on to write an FBI book, which sucked.
	But the CIA book, I remember calling Uncle Don and saying, is this true?
	And he said, yeah, that's pretty much how I remember it.
	So what I don't understand is Mike Benz, who I think we both appreciate for what he does, he goes on a 15-minute rant slamming this book.
	Listen, I clipped a little bit of it.
	CIA's Legacy of Ashes.
	This book is terrible.
	This is the book you're supposed to read, that you're told to read, to know what the CIA does.
	Garbage.
	And everyone talks about it like it's this big bible of CIA. It's dog water.
	It's awful.
	Like the whole point of Legacy of Ashes is like, yeah, the CIA does all this terrible stuff.
	It's morally dubious.
	It causes all this blowback and human rights disasters.
	But they're bumbling, stumbling fools around.
	You don't need to worry about them.
	They don't do anything right.
	They're so silly.
	They're such silly gooses.
	Wouldn't it be nice if the CIA just stopped being such silly gooses?
	He goes on and on and on about this.
	I don't understand what his point is.
	Don't you think that this is to draw attention to the book, to get it back in play?
	Didn't seem like it to me.
	Well, now you've opened my mind up to possibilities here.
	Yeah, okay.
	Because I haven't heard anybody say, oh, you have to read Legacy of Ashes, except us.
	How many times has someone mentioned this book to you in the past 17 years?
	None.
	Exactly.
	But, this will get your attention.
	Yeah, okay, good point.
	Good point.
	Maybe it's time to re-read the book.
	Maybe there's something in there that we should be noticing.
	I'm not going to read that book again.
	I don't think I can have the same conversation with him anymore.
	Before we go to anything else, let's just stick with...
	No, he's still butthurt about Hillary losing, isn't he?
	He does not like Trump.
	He's like, Trump is no good.
	He thinks Trump is horrible.
	But he's been out of the game for quite a long time.
	And I give him all honor.
	Yeah, well, you know, you can have his own opinion.
	Maybe Trump is bad.
	But he was the guy that said to me, yeah, North Korea, whenever we need to sell some military stuff, we just rattle North Korea around the media.
	That was his almost direct quote.
	And Trump did a good job of stopping that.
	Maybe that's the reason he didn't like Trump.
	Fouling up these great schemes.
	This is no good.
	Curry, did you leak this information?
	No.
	Okay, so let's just stick with the election for a little bit.
	First of all, we have to understand, no matter what we say, no matter how we look at it, this race is tight, John.
	It's tight.
	I mean, come on.
	It's neck and neck.
	The vice president and former president bashing each other while rallying their supporters as both sides count down to November 5th.
	We've got just 10 days left in one of the most consequential elections of our lifetime.
	Kamala Harris and Donald Trump crisscrossing the swing states.
	Harris in Kalamazoo, Michigan this afternoon, pushing what she calls a fresh start in her economic plan to help middle America.
	Trump also in Michigan, and then at State College of Pennsylvania, vowing to close the border and bring down the cost of living.
	We have nine days to go to total victory, and then we're going to have a different kind of a victory.
	We're going to turn our nation around.
	Harris introduced by former First Lady Michelle Obama.
	The campaign focusing on reproductive rights.
	She will fight to restore our reproductive freedoms and defend our health.
	Michigan Senate candidate Mike Rogers on the stump for Trump and the economy.
	We lost in the last four years 20,000 manufacturing jobs under Democrat policies coming out of Washington, D.C. Both candidates trying to appeal to the undecided electorate.
	Votes that could push them over the finish line to win.
	This is going to be the greatest victory in the history of our country.
	It's going to be an exciting night on November 5th.
	And make no mistake, we will win.
	Both feeling very confident for Harris and Trump.
	The presidential election all comes down to the seven battleground states.
	And the most crucial is Pennsylvania with its 19 electoral votes.
	A clip that I found that we've kind of been looking for is the pronunciation of Vice President Harris's first name, which if you do it wrong, you're racist.
	What is now the official pronunciation?
	Is it Kamala?
	No, it's Kamala.
	Kamala.
	And by the way, thank you to all of the Chicanos, which turns out is not a slur.
	I never thought it was.
	I thought you were laughing at it because it was a dated reference.
	I didn't know you were laughing because you thought I said a slur.
	I didn't know either.
	But a lot of people emailed and said, no, no, that's good.
	And they all said, hey, I'm glad you guys finally caught on about the Kamala.
	Came a lot.
	Yeah, they should have emailed this a long time ago.
	We didn't know about this.
	You had to hear it from your gardener.
	Well, now that you mention it, yes.
	What's up with that?
	What's up with that?
	Our audience is remiss.
	Our producers, producers, you got to get on the stick.
	So this is a 45-second supercut of every single leftist media personality and I think even a few...
	Democrat politicians mispronouncing her name.
	Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris.
	People like Kamala Harris.
	But as Kamala said, Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris was a very good prosecutor.
	Kamala Harris.
	I know her.
	Kamala was first Biden and Kamala.
	Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris was talking about this.
	Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris is who would be my favorite at the end.
	I like Kamala Harris.
	Yeah, who are these phony balonies kidding?
	They're all phony balonies.
	But now, John, we have a new October surprise.
	It's a new October surprise right on the cusp.
	This morning, a startling new report.
	Startling!
	It's from the Washington Post.
	It's startling.
	About one of Donald Trump's most ardent supporters, Elon Musk.
	This is no ordinary election.
	A regular from the campaign trail, and according to the Wall Street Journal, the tech titan in regular contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2022.
	The discussion said to focus on personal topics, business and geopolitical tensions.
	At one point, according to the journal, Putin even asking Musk, who says he holds top secret clearance, to hold off activating one of his Starlink satellites over Taiwan as a favor to China's president, Xi Jinping.
	It's not known if Musk obliged.
	The journal saying the contacts raised national security concerns, given the ties between Musk, SpaceX, and the U.S. military and intelligence agencies.
	But a person aware of the conversations told the journal there have been no alerts raised over possible security breaches.
	Musk has not responded to the allegations, but when asked in 2022 if he had spoken to Putin about Ukraine, he posted, I have spoken to Putin only once, and that was about 18 months ago.
	The subject matter was space.
	Earlier this year, President Putin himself praised Musk in an interview with Tucker Carlson on Musk's own X platform, calling him unstoppable.
	And Russia this morning strongly denying the Wall Street Journal report, saying it did not happen.
	All of this comes, of course, as Donald Trump swirls in controversy over his praise of Vladimir Putin and denials that he has been in regular contact with the Russian leader since leaving office.
	Okay, first of all, that's Martha Radnitz.
	Radnitz.
	And she's no good.
	Well, it was a WAPO, but it's a WAPO report, who are, of course, also no good.
	This is all no good.
	Dude, we're mentioning the WAPO, though.
	I thought it was the Wall Street Journal there, but it was WAPO. WAPO. WAPO. Now there's all hell's broken loose at the WAPO. Yes, because Bezos...
	Oh, you have the clip?
	Oh, good.
	I have the two clips.
	Okay, good, good, good.
	WAPO won.
	The motto of the Washington Post is democracy dies in darkness.
	I like the marbles in this guy's mouth.
	Yet in these closing days of a presidential campaign that polls say is close, the Post has announced it would not endorse any candidate in the race for the White House.
	Oh no!
	This is for the first time in decades.
	NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik broke the story and joins us now.
	David, thank you for being with us.
	Pleasure.
	Pleasure.
	The Post is known for its political coverage.
	It's the paper that broke the Watergate story, and many more without fear or favor.
	Fear or favor!
	We've seen the movies.
	Why is it stepping away from making an endorsement in this presidential race?
	So let's go first to the stated reason posted yesterday just before noon from the publisher and chief executive Will Lewis.
	He says that the Post wants to return to its roots independent of partisan interests.
	It sort of has for decades style itself as an independent newspaper.
	Under owner Jeff Bezos, he said they are going to, for the future, not endorse in presidential races and seek to attain that.
	Now, this was a paper that has been editorially largely supportive, not uniformly, but largely supportive of the Biden-Harris administration.
	There had been a draft of an endorsement in the works endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the presidency.
	And, you know, this is a newspaper that has been in the vanguard of reporting on former President Donald Trump's alleged wrongdoing and potential illegalities in office and has denounced him editorially for that on its editorial pages all throughout.
	That proposed endorsement, which had been embraced by the editorial page editor, doesn't come as a surprise.
	But right now, if you're looking at it on its own terms, the explanation, you look at a time when the media is under attack.
	Trust is at record lows, particularly among conservatives, especially among Trump supporters.
	This is on its surface an effort by the owner Jeff Bezos to try to remediate and address that.
	What's the reaction been like at the Post?
	Well, because of the Post's record in its reporting and because of its strong opinions talking about Trump being unfit for office in its separately run editorial side, Particularly as a result of the January 2021 efforts to deny President Biden's certification of his win.
	There's been furor.
	There's been tumult inside the post and to some degree outside of it as well.
	Resignation of Robert Kagan, a longtime columnist, editor at large.
	He's been warning for years of Trump as an authoritarian in the making.
	Robert Kagan is no liberal either.
	Before we go to the next thing, I have some questions for you.
	So one, Kagan, who was Victoria Nuland's husband, Yeah, and a neocon, a warmongering neocon, but there's no liberal, quote-unquote, no liberal.
	All the neocons came from the liberal side of things, so let's get that straight.
	What is the function of the editor-at-large?
	Is it just an editor who's a big guy, or is there some function that's specific?
	That's not the editor, the editor-at-large.
	Is he at the top of the food chain?
	No.
	The editor-at-large is largely a...
	I thought he was the editorial page editor, but he would ever...
	Editor-at-large is his title.
	Okay, so the editor-at-large is largely a...
	mostly a ceremonial title.
	It's given to somebody who's been around for a while and they don't want to make him this or they don't want to make him that.
	I had the title at InfoWorld for a while while I was a columnist because I couldn't be a contributing editor anymore because I wasn't writing anything other than this column.
	And I said, here's why I want to be the consulting editor.
	But do you walk around and you wrap your pencil on people's desk and go, hey...
	You're not doing it right?
	What, the editor at large?
	Yeah, or do you just have phone calls or meetings?
	No, you don't do any of that.
	No, it's an honorary...
	Emeritus.
	It's close to something like that.
	It's a bullcrap title.
	It's the same as consulting editor, which I was.
	Mm-hmm.
	It's great.
	It sounds good.
	Yes.
	In other words, they'll give you...
	Supposedly, they call you once in a while and say, hey, you're the consulting editor.
	Can I consult with you?
	They never do that.
	I've never been consulted to this day.
	Do you get paid for this title?
	It's like you.
	You're like a consulting podcaster.
	Nobody's ever called you.
	You're like they invented it.
	Nobody ever says anything.
	They say, hey, Adam, can you help us from doing a podcast?
	Can you give us a tip?
	No.
	They don't even bother.
	Lots of people ask me that.
	The editor-at-large is just a guy that supposedly...
	No, it doesn't mean anything.
	But it sounds cool at cocktail parties in D.C. Yeah, it sounds great.
	I'm an editor-at-large, or Washington Post, whatever.
	I'm an editor-at-large.
	I like the idea of being a fat guy, though.
	That would make it better.
	Well, he is a fat guy, isn't he?
	Yeah, he's a fat guy.
	Okay, so now let's just take this into the overall perspective.
	That, so even though he's, I mean, are they kicking out all the old neocons?
	Newland?
	No.
	We're moving to China.
	You don't know anything about China.
	You're out.
	And by the way, that editor-at-large, husband of yours, he's no good either.
	But he wants to endorse Kamala.
	We can't have that.
	It's Trump for China.
	I wonder if he's...
	It's fitting into the pieces of the puzzle that may all be fitting together.
	Part two may explain a little more.
	Robert Kagan is no liberal either.
	He is absolutely not a liberal by any stretch or means.
	Ten opinion writers at The Post denounced The Post's decision in a posting they did on its own website.
	You saw Woodward and Bernstein come out.
	You saw Marty Baron, the lionized former executive editor of The Post, call it cowardice and spineless.
	And you saw over 1,600 cancellations of digital subscriptions there three hours after the story broke.
	And that's happening against a backdrop in which Trump has been attempting to directly and expressly intimidate the press, saying that if he wins office once more, that he will wreak vengeance against it.
	And if you think about Jeff Bezos, yes.
	Hold on a second.
	This is now they just went to nonsense.
	Well, this is the irony of the whole thing to me, which is that it's the left and these MSNBCs and all the rest that make all this stuff up about Trump because he says something casually or just jokingly or he doesn't say it at all, and they make it up, and they've literally scared their own pants off.
	Ha ha ha!
	Expressly intimidate the press, saying that if he wins office once more, that he will wreak vengeance against it.
	And if you think about Jeff Bezos, yes, he's the owner of the Post, but of course the founder of Amazon.
	He has a ton of business interests worth billions involving the federal government.
	Amazon's shipping, it's cloud- And China!
	Computing contracts, and his space company, Blue Origin, has a multi-billion dollar deal with the federal government to take people into the heavens.
	This follows a similar decision by the publisher of the Los Angeles Times.
	Is it a similar story and reasoning by the owner there?
	Yeah, and interestingly, there is no formal publisher there.
	It's all being decided by owner Patrick Soon-Shang.
	There had also been an editorial in support of Kamala Harris being drafted, and he decided to kill it.
	That led to the resignation of the editorial center and two other editorial writers there.
	Patrick Sunchang, again, a civic leader, stepped forward to buy the Times to try to sustain it.
	And at the same time, he's a billionaire, physician, inventor with major interest before federal regulators.
	Should Trump win again, he is threatening this vengeance that I mentioned.
	And so here's the question.
	Are these figures trying to, at a time of low trust in the media, redefine their papers as more independent and away from partisan interests just days before an election that their own Editorial pages, say, may define the future of the American democratic experiment for decades to come, or is this a moment where paper are buckling in the face of potential pressure because, of course, this race is so close they don't know who's going to win?
	Sun Shing of the LA Times, also Chinese-American?
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	But what I see, what I get a kick out of these guys, 10 guys, we quit.
	And they're quitting to do what?
	Rage quitting.
	They're rage quitting and there's no business.
	It's a dying industry.
	The newspaper industry is going down the tubes and they're going to quit to go do what?
	Just make themselves homeless?
	This is beyond me.
	It's a very interesting twist.
	It's clear that they can't go against Trump.
	It's not that they don't want people to go for Kamlas.
	They can't go against Trump.
	Whether it's for, okay, Bezos' business interests, sketchy, maybe.
	I don't know.
	But it's all part of the he has to win.
	Particularly when the race is this close.
	My race is so close.
	You can almost get that voice, that guy's voice.
	That'd be good.
	You add that to your arsenal with the Dutch guy.
	My arsenal of almost.
	I'm almost there.
	You have an arsenal of almost.
	I want to wrap up the Russia thing, then I want to come back to the media who are, you know, along this thing.
	Well, before you do that, we're still in the campaign.
	I wanted to get my two campaign clips in.
	I was doing Russia.
	I wanted to finish up Russia.
	Yeah, you moved off the campaign.
	No, no, no.
	You stole me.
	You stole my vibe going from Russia into WAPO. It's okay.
	I just have one clip.
	Oh, well, why don't you play your clip?
	I just wanted to get these two campaign raps.
	And the only reason I wanted to play them is because they're from the nation's treasure.
	Yes, no, you're going to have to.
	I insist you play them.
	I just wanted to, because this is something that was flying under the radar.
	And this is Grandma Yellen, who I think is younger than I am.
	Yellen, who did the keynote for the IMF World Bank Jamboree.
	Did you see any of this?
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	Ah, so the IMF and the World Bank have a big meeting a couple days back.
	It's a whole week of meetings.
	I just call it the jamboree.
	And she opened it up and she talked about Ukraine.
	Ukraine, sorry, Ukraine.
	And there was something very interesting.
	Some stuff we knew about the loan to Ukraine, where that's coming from, the stolen Russian money.
	But wait until you hear how she wraps this up.
	You mentioned the $50 billion loan that the G7 leaders agreed to provide to Ukraine and asked me about the status of it.
	We're very close to finalizing America's portion of this $50 billion loan package.
	And what I want to emphasize is that The source of financing for these loans.
	This is not the American taxpayer.
	What's happening here is that Russia is paying for this support, the 50 billion of support that we intend to go to Ukraine by the end of this year.
	It is the income on the assets Russian sovereign assets that have been immobilized in Euroclear that are the source of repayment.
	And we've agreed with Ukraine that even if there is a final settlement and a I'm sure Russia's going to love that.
	So it's Russia's money, and they're going to repay it with Russia's money.
	You know, the funny thing is, isn't that a tranche of $300 billion?
	Yes, yes.
	And somehow the interest is $50 billion?
	You know, I thought this exact same thing.
	Like, you're not investing this in money markets.
	What did you do with that?
	Yeah, this is a return that's way over 10%.
	Did you buy NVIDIA stock?
	It's close to 20% return.
	Yeah.
	Yes, exactly.
	Why did they put the Russian money in?
	It's not the S&P. I mean, is the S&P up 20%?
	No.
	No, not, well, yeah, maybe over a period of a decade or more.
	Yeah, 10 years, yeah.
	This is not right.
	No.
	These numbers don't make sense.
	But we're the ones cutting the check.
	That's the big joke of it all.
	Oh, it's secure, don't worry.
	It's this extra money that's floating around that, you know...
	Or maybe that's just how banking actually works behind the scenes.
	You stupid people...
	You can get your money market, and somehow we get 20% return.
	Who knows?
	All right, let's go to your wrap.
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, wait.
	Well, I'm just going to...
	This is NPR.com.
	I wanted to do before, since you brought up Ukraine, I wanted to do the Ukraine update before we do that.
	Okay, Ukraine.
	Well, it's PBS, so it fits with the jingle.
	This is different.
	This is the other nation's treasure.
	In Ukraine, Russian drones struck Kiev in an hours-long nighttime barrage.
	Kiev!
	Ukrainian officials said one went into an apartment building, killing a 15-year-old girl and injuring five others.
	And in central Ukraine, a missile struck a residential area in Dnipro.
	Regional officials said a 14-year-old and four others were killed and at least 21 others injured.
	We should have never, ever let that happen.
	Oh, that's for sure.
	No, no, but let me tell you what I mean.
	We should have never let them force people to change from Kiev to Kiev.
	Oh, Kiev.
	That's horse crap.
	I'm just going to go back to saying Kiev.
	That is so...
	Remember, if you said Kiev, then you were a Russian agent.
	That was pretty much what they said.
	Oh, no, it's Kiev.
	If you say Kiev, you're carrying water for Putin.
	I thought it was the Russians that pronounced it Kyiv.
	No.
	No, the Ukrainians do Kyiv.
	Kyiv.
	Kyiv in Russian.
	Kyiv.
	And we say Kyiv.
	Or at least we used to until the whole media changed.
	Yeah, this is like, yeah, freedom flies.
	Can't say that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	We're getting pushed around too much.
	No, I'm putting my foot down.
	Kyiv.
	Kyiv.
	Put my foot down on that.
	I want chicken Kiev.
	Stomping his foot.
	Stomping my foot down.
	All right.
	Campaign wrap.
	This will be the end of the election coverage for today's show.
	Okay.
	I have two more clips after this.
	Do you have more?
	Then you can follow it up with what you have.
	Yes, I'm going to follow it up.
	This is from the National Treasure NPR. Is this guy again?
	Is that guy with the marbles?
	Campaign wrap one.
	All right.
	On the campaign trail, both presidential candidates are stumping for undecided voters in swing states today.
	Vice President Harris rallied in Michigan with former First Lady Michelle Obama.
	Harris touched on familiar themes, including the rising cost of health care.
	I believe health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who have the money to afford it.
	On the other hand, we've got Donald Trump.
	No!
	Who intends to end the Affordable Care Act.
	Oh, please.
	They're so wildly exaggerating everything, particularly...
	Roe v.
	Wade, which was not a law, it was a Supreme Court decision, and it's gone back to the states, but somehow Trump is going to make it law.
	You know what's funny is that the states like California, where abortion is legal and they can do it under normal circumstance, but everyone's voting...
	For Kamla here, why would you do that?
	It's already, it's a done deal.
	What are you bitching about?
	Why are you complaining about it?
	About any of it in California or Colorado, for that matter, where you can go nine months and have an abortion as the baby's head is popping out.
	I mean, why is KTLA running reports that it's a close election?
	What do they care?
	They're not getting any extra ad money.
	This is just claiming.
	They're just following the leader.
	That's what you do.
	They said radio guys.
	They don't know what the hell's going on.
	Come on.
	Radio guys.
	KTLA is a television station.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, they're saying radio guys that move the TV. So, the thing about this last clip was that they're talking about rising costs in healthcare.
	I'm sorry.
	Everything's getting bad.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I'm still stuck.
	It just kind of hit me where the baby's head pops out and they kill it.
	Man, that was a gruesome thing you just said.
	Yeah, well, it happens.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Back to you, Bob.
	Back to you, Bob.
	The rising cost of health care and Trump wants to kill the Affordable Care Act is supposed to make it affordable.
	Why is it rising?
	It's in play right now.
	It's not gone.
	It's in play.
	We are under its influence.
	But how come things are rising?
	Did you answer that question, Kamala?
	Trump campaigned in two states today, starting in a Detroit suburb where he slammed early voting, even though it was a rally to mark the start of statewide early voting in Michigan.
	Tonight, Trump campaigned on the Penn State campus in State College, Pennsylvania.
	Kamala will destroy your inheritance.
	But much more importantly, she's going to destroy your country.
	If you vote for me, I will ensure that you begin your careers, young people, in a roaring economy, in a time of unprecedented peace and prosperity.
	Trump's using the college setting to make a direct appeal to first-time voters.
	And early in-person voting did kick off across Michigan today, as NPR's Hansi Luang reports, more than 40 million voters around the country have cast their ballots so far.
	Eligible Michiganders throughout the swing state can now catch up with early voters in the Detroit area and East Lansing, where in-person voting at the polls started days ago ahead of the rest of the state.
	If you're eligible to cast a ballot in Michigan but haven't registered yet, you still have time to sign up at your local clerk's office through Election Day, the last day of voting.
	Outside of the swing state, though, voter registration for this fall's election is closing today in Massachusetts and New York.
	eligible voters there have hours left to register in person or online around the country election officials have raised concerns about potential mail delays if you plan to vote by mail the postal service is urging you to check your state's deadline and return your ballot at least one week before that date yeah Mail-in ballots.
	Yeah, it's a plague.
	Well, because you brought up the Affordable Care Act, formerly known as Obamacare, President Trump said something about making America healthy again that I think he was reading off the prompter, so I'm not quite sure if this was a mistake.
	Listen to this.
	Tell me if you hear the same thing I hear.
	As we secure our borders and rebuild our economy, we are also going to make America healthy again.
	Now, you think this is teleprompter?
	It seems like it's teleprompter, right?
	This is a teleprompter bit?
	Yeah, it seems like it.
	The Kamala...
	Healthcare plan will make our kids sicker and their diets more toxic.
	Under the Trump administration, we will get the toxic chemicals out of our food supply and we will make our children healthier.
	We will spend more money on healthcare than any other nation, but think of that.
	What?
	We're already spending more money on healthcare than any other nation.
	So is he going to spend more on healthcare than any other nation?
	This is what I don't understand.
	We'll spend more money on healthcare than any other nation, but think of that.
	You know, we do.
	I don't know if you know.
	I think he realizes that he's screwed up here.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	Think of that now.
	We've spent more money on healthcare.
	He left out weave.
	He weaved.
	He weaved in the wrong direction.
	He weaved himself, yes.
	He didn't let the loom come back on the weave.
	So he said, instead of saying, we've spent more money, he said, we're going to.
	We're going to spend more.
	When I heard that, I was like, nah, that doesn't sound right.
	No, that's a total screw-up.
	You're right.
	Good catch.
	Now, tonight is the big Madison Square Garden.
	Seek Heil!
	Hang up the swastikas.
	I didn't clip it, but I heard Governor Hochul this morning on MSNBC. She's saying, oh, no, I think Trump is coming to New York to wave the white flag of surrender.
	Okay.
	What?
	Yeah, it would have been a good clip.
	Anyway, Mayor Adams was questioned about Trump being a fascist and Hitler and a horrible person.
	I recall that Trump kind of was nice to Adams.
	He was very nice to him at the L. Smith dinner.
	He complimented him.
	He told him that he'll get over it.
	This will be fine.
	He'll get out of this quagmire he's stuck in.
	I think that Adams has chosen his camp...
	Hi, Mr.
	Mayor.
	I wondered if I could ask you about any communications you've been having with the Trump campaign about this rally or otherwise.
	And if you believe, as others have said, that the former president is a fascist.
	As a journalist, can you believe that you're sent down to the press conference for the mayor?
	Now, ask him, do you think Trump is a fascist?
	Here's the question.
	It's like stuttering John-level questions.
	That's a good analogy, stuttering John.
	That's what Stern used to do.
	Back when Stern was Stern, he would give stuttering John crazy questions like that.
	Hey, do you think Trump's a fascist?
	And everyone would be laughing about it.
	And now it's just a serious question.
	You know, I have had those terms hurled at me by some political leaders in the city, using terms like Hitler and fascist.
	My answer is no.
	I know what Hitler has done, and I know what a fascist regime looks like.
	I think, as I've called over and over again, that the level of conversation, I think we could all dial down the temperature, and I've heard people say that the A former president should not be able to have a rally in Madison Square Garden.
	I strongly disagree.
	This is America.
	This is New York.
	And I think it's important that we allow individuals to exercise their right to get their message clear to New Yorkers.
	And our job as a city and as a police department is to make sure they can do that in a peaceful way.
	I think that we must be extremely cautious.
	The heat we turn up today, pre-election, is going to have to be the heat we're going to have to govern.
	And I think we need to show a level of respectable communication.
	Uncle Tom is what he is there.
	Yeah, he's siding with Trump.
	Uncle Tom.
	Uncle Tom.
	I can see him being called that.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	So I'm pretty convinced, just based upon my own theory, and for a while we've been talking about the they, the system, how everybody benefits if Trump wins.
	Especially the media, everybody benefits if he wins.
	And probably the country, which would be nice.
	But if he does...
	Now, if he doesn't, it'll be an interesting four more years for us.
	If he does, it'll be an interesting four more years for us.
	No, it's going to be an interesting four years, whatever.
	There's no doubt about it.
	But for Joe Scarborough, who had to sit down with Jimmy Kimmel, I would like...
	Oh, that was a pathetic...
	It was like two old ladies.
	They should have both been knitting.
	I would like our No Agenda producers to have compassion for these men.
	Because they are very emotional about even the idea of Trump winning.
	I think that there are certain news networks, if you want to call them that, who are lying to people.
	I think that there's a certain generation of which we are a part who are used to watching television and seeing the white man in a suit telling us what's going on in the world and believing that what he's saying is true.
	I think that is ingrained in us as Americans.
	We grew up with Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings, and we did not question that what they were telling us was factual.
	And a lot of people now are looking at Sean Hannity and whomever else, and they are not questioning whether or not what they're saying is factual.
	And what they're hearing is untrue.
	This is so telling.
	First of all...
	When did Brokaw and Jennings and Rather go off the air?
	20 years ago?
	It was a long time ago.
	I don't know who you're talking to, but most people don't even know these names.
	I'm surprised they didn't bring up Walter Cronkite and Huntley and Brinkley.
	There's my favorite, too.
	Huntley and Brinkley.
	Okay.
	When Walter Cronkite and Huntley and Brinkley were on the air, this is not the way it was going.
	Edward R. Murrow did things right, damn it!
	Edward R. Murrow.
	I mean, come on, check the calendar.
	What they think, because they're being told there's a caravan of migrants coming, and then nobody's following up at the end and saying, oh, there was no caravan of migrants coming.
	What?!
	There was a caravan of migrants.
	There's a crap load of caravans of migrants.
	There's video.
	There's millions and millions of them.
	Coming.
	And Aurora, Colorado has not been taken over by Venezuelan street gangs.
	And by the way, this story about cats and dogs being devoured by Haitian immigrants.
	In Springfield...
	They're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
	They're eating the cats.
	They're eating the pets.
	It is preposterous.
	I will tell you, I've been dreaming the last three nights.
	I've been just going through all this craziness over and over again.
	It's really starting to take a toll.
	I just can't get it out of my head.
	Okay, so this is where he gets emotional because I think he sees the writing on the wall.
	And you can hear it in his voice.
	He's very, very concerned about the possibility of a Trump victory.
	I want to mention something.
	We have to remember that during one of his monologues during the Trump presidency...
	He literally cried on stage.
	He cried, yeah.
	He cried.
	About something that he thinks Trump did or didn't do, whatever it was.
	It was ludicrous.
	And he hates Trump.
	And it shows up in his comedy, if you want to call it that.
	So here we go.
	And again...
	Have compassion for this man, I ask you.
	Just forgive him.
	I am going to have compassion.
	I'm not spiking the ball if Trump wins.
	I'm just going to have compassion.
	Do you look forward to the day?
	Oh.
	When you don't have to...
	Because one of the things that is so exhausting to me, and why there have been several times where I was like, I don't think I can do this anymore.
	I don't want to talk about...
	I don't care who it is.
	The same person every day.
	And yet...
	Your whole career is based on talking about Trump every single day, Scarborough.
	What are you talking about?
	Every day.
	Every day, there are more outrageous things said.
	So if you don't talk about it, it's like you're given permission.
	Do you look forward to the day when...
	Oh boy, do I. Not only do I look forward to the day, I have to...
	I was telling my wife, I don't feel like I'm mentally prepared for the possibility of a loss.
	I'm not ready for it.
	I have to...
	I think he needs another vacation.
	I have to get there where I'm ready for either scenario or for no scenario, which might be the case for several days.
	Oh, yeah.
	The grid's going down.
	And I have to also kind of think through what I might say the next day because, you know, I mean, you're going to have to be up the next morning talking about what happened.
	For all 300,000 people that listened to Morning Joe.
	Well, what didn't happen?
	And what message do you want to send to people who watch the show?
	It's, you know, most of my shows aren't important.
	That one seems a little bit more important than others because I do have a lot of people...
	Kind of asking me what I think and going along with what I think.
	And it's a big responsibility, you know?
	So I don't even remember what I said the last time he won.
	I just remember staying up almost all night and trying to process it.
	My wife being very, very upset and feeling very alone.
	Like, I got to figure out what I'm going to say.
	Nobody can figure this out for me.
	None of my writers can figure out my take on this.
	I have to tell them what it is.
	I mean, I feel his pain.
	Oh my God!
	What a jerk!
	I feel his pain.
	I mean, what will we say the next day if Harris wins?
	We'll be like, alright.
	Alright.
	What's going on now?
	We'll just keep on going.
	I don't think that him was so spun up over all this.
	It is just...
	Goodness gracious.
	Everybody chill out.
	It's really interesting how spun-up everybody is over this.
	Well, not everybody.
	Well, no, not everybody.
	A lot of no-agenda people are totally not spun-up over it.
	No, why should you be?
	Exactly.
	It's not the end of this.
	And, yeah, Trump will be great.
	You can't vote your way out of the problems we have.
	No.
	The administration of the state is not going to help much.
	No.
	It's when Elon comes in.
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	He'll fix it.
	That's right.
	Elon's going to fix it.
	He'll fix it.
	Yeah, he's going to fix it.
	Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in, counseling editor of PC Magazine.
	Consulting.
	What did I say?
	He said counseling.
	Here, I'll edit it out.
	No one will not.
	I'm the counseling editor.
	Hey, you guys, you guys, you guys.
	The consulting editor of PC Magazine.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr.
	John C. DeVore!
	Yeah, I was the consulting editor of Info World, by the way, not the PC Magazine.
	But that's okay.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, he strips the seat boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	Joe's out.
	Wow!
	All right.
	Oh, no.
	It's not wow.
	Or is it wow?
	What's it supposed to be on Sundays?
	1,800?
	Oh, brother.
	It's 2,400 on Sundays?
	Yeah.
	We're 2,321, so we're close.
	We're low, and it's the 17th anniversary show.
	People are at church, man.
	They got other things to do.
	They weren't at church when we hit 4,000.
	I don't remember when we hit 4,000.
	That was a while ago.
	That was the height.
	Yeah.
	Was that during COVID? Probably during COVID. No, no.
	That was the recent...
	It was recently.
	During COVID, we hit 34 once.
	Yeah.
	It was a Sunday, so they weren't at church then either.
	Of course, during COVID, you couldn't go to church.
	It was illegal.
	Is there a football game on, by any chance?
	There must be a football game.
	Not a good football game.
	Hey, any football game other than listening to No Agenda.
	I'm all in on that.
	By the way, nice to see that Pitt won.
	Remember it was Cody?
	No, you won.
	They literally embarrassed Syracuse.
	But I just have to say, I don't know what we were thinking.
	We had a policy, and I want to reiterate the policy.
	We do not do karma for sports teams.
	That's right.
	And we did it.
	And you see the reason why.
	Because we forget to bet on it.
	That's why.
	Yes.
	No, the reason why is because it gives the team an unfair advantage.
	We're not going to do it again.
	Well, remember, it was a Commodore.
	It was Doter who came in with a Commodore ship for his son.
	We slipped up.
	We did.
	We slipped.
	We slipped.
	I'm sorry.
	You see what happens?
	Boom.
	Boom.
	They win.
	And not just by a little bit.
	It was embarrassing what happened.
	It was embarrassing.
	I think it was a shutout or something.
	It was outrageous.
	Interception after interception.
	Yeah, they set the record for three interceptions.
	It was not just interceptions.
	It was three pick sixes, which is an interception where you run it into the end zone.
	I'm just explaining it to you and everyone else.
	Thank you, because I'd forgotten how it worked.
	There was three pick sixes in the first half.
	What does that even mean, pick sixes?
	I just explained it.
	No, you didn't.
	You make an interception and score a touchdown with the interception.
	Oh, that's called a pick six?
	Yeah.
	Because you picked it out of the air and you made six points?
	Boom.
	Hello?
	That's with the conversion.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Now I can sound cool.
	I can say, well, I was talking to the consulting editor formerly of InfoWorld, and we were talking about the pick sixes of Pitt.
	It's amazing.
	Yeah, you're not going to make points with that, by the way.
	I'll make points with somebody.
	That's too low level, believe me.
	I'll make points with somebody.
	You want to talk about something else.
	Flooding the zone is better.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	Yeah, 17 years we've been running this show.
	Not bad.
	And by the way, just to thank the trolls for being in the troll room, trollroom.io.
	Thank you also to Mr.
	Darren O'Neill, who for the past four or five years has been doing the rock and roll.
	A decade almost.
	I don't know about that.
	I think so.
	No, I don't think he's been doing a decade.
	He can tell us, but it's a lot.
	Yeah, he's been doing...
	Let me see, did he just post here?
	Let me see if he told us what it is.
	No.
	He has been doing the Rock and Roll pre-show, which is two hours before the show on Thursday and Sunday.
	And it's been a great help.
	And a lot of people...
	I mean, it would take days to thank everybody who has done something for No Agenda.
	And I'll even add a lot of the modern podcast app developers who have made it, you know, we've been doing this show live, like, oh, we can add this live stuff into these podcast apps, and oh, we'll make sure you get notified, and we'll make sure that, you know, you can't get deplatformed, and even when you publish within 90 seconds, oh, the modern podcast app show you that the podcast is there.
	But we have many websites that Including our own noagendashow.net, the noagendameetups.com, the noagendaartgenerator.
	We have so, like, noagendafun, the tipoftheday.net.
	I mean, it could just go on and on and on.
	And the boots on the ground and the people whose supplies with end-of-show mixes.
	I had so many end-of-show mixes, I had to make a choice.
	There's at least...
	Double the amount.
	Everyone's always sending him in for today's show.
	But we'll get to him, of course.
	And, you know, even Chris Wilson popped up and he said hi and congratulations.
	It's just been so nice.
	It's really, really nice.
	I appreciate it so much.
	And our artists have been along for the ride for a long time.
	Even though it was in the standard, it took Apple up until, I think, two years ago for them to finally say, oh, you know, we can put episode art in and not just be the same image over and over again.
	While we've been using fresh art for, what do you say, 15 years?
	Yeah, at least 15, well, 15 years probably.
	It predates the art generator.
	There was a previous art generator.
	Yes.
	And then the art generator came along and then it got switched to headless Drupal.
	And that was tough.
	It was tough times.
	Tough times.
	With Headless Drupal.
	And I don't know what it's on now, but we've gone through a couple of upgrades, and it's there.
	Thank you, Sir Paul Couture.
	And so we, as part of our model, which is the Value for Value model, which is a rollercoaster ride, it took us quite a while to stabilize, and it never really is.
	It's up, it's down, it's up, it's down.
	And for those of you playing along at home, if you want to do a value for value podcast, emulate what we're doing, you know, and ask people to support you and thank them when they support you and send a newsletter.
	I cannot stress how important that people don't do that.
	They just don't do it, John.
	And it is so important to send a newsletter the day before people have busy lives.
	And another thing, if you're doing a podcast, try to release it around the same time, on the same day, consistently.
	People, if it doesn't show up, people will find another podcast and you might lose them for good.
	These are simple tips.
	Very simple tips.
	Marketing 1.
	Marketing 0.9.
	But people don't do it.
	People are like, oh, I've got to write a newsletter.
	Get ChatGPT to do it for you.
	Do something.
	So we want to thank Tante Neel, a true Dutch master, who is not an AI prompt jockey.
	She is someone who really does the work, and she's been doing it consistently for a long time.
	She brought us the artwork for episode 1706, which we titled Nerd and Knucklehead.
	A lot of people had Nerd and Knucklehead art that they submitted, but we like the Kemala!
	Which is, I like this cartoon-type format that she did with the dots.
	What is that called?
	There's got to be some printing term for that.
	Cartoon dots.
	What?
	When you're looking at the art, do you see that it looks like a cartoon with dots?
	I don't see the dots.
	Well, it's dots.
	It's like a cartoon that's made up of dots.
	Dots!
	Look at the green.
	Oh yeah, it's got a screen over it.
	It's like screened.
	Those dots, by the way, I'll say this.
	Those dots appear more dot-like to you than they do to anyone else.
	It's very, very subtle.
	Well, I have it embiggened.
	I'm looking at the 512x512 image.
	I'm looking at the 512x512, and the dots are very hard to see.
	What is that artist's name?
	Very famous artist who does these dot...
	He's dead now.
	No, not Leroy.
	I know who it is.
	Not Leroy.
	Rothen...
	No, not even close.
	Yeah, I'm getting it.
	Lichtenstein.
	Lichtenstein.
	There you go.
	Nailed it.
	Lichtenstein.
	I had to get the other names out of the way.
	Roy Lichtenstein.
	Roy Lichtenstein.
	Good old Roy.
	Thank you.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, it's newsprint, basically.
	And we liked it.
	We liked it a lot.
	And we appreciate you, Tonta Neal, who is...
	Is she on the leaderboard?
	Let me see what the leaderboard is.
	Let me see.
	Nick the Rat's still number one of all time.
	Darren O'Neal number two.
	Yeah, because he was on our...
	Because he just...
	When he was doing them, he was just...
	Doing them and doing them and doing them.
	She's number six on the leaderboard.
	She's actually behind Comic Strip Blogger, which is a shocker.
	52 times her art has been chosen.
	Let's look at the rolling six-month average.
	Scaramanga is at the top.
	Dame Kenny, another Dutch master, is second place.
	Let's look at the rolling annual.
	Tantanil is in fourth place.
	And rolling 90 days, boy, she drops off there.
	She was gone for a bit, I guess.
	Well, she's rolling six months.
	She's in third.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's two Dutch masters there.
	We got Dame Kennybin and Tantanil.
	It's so good.
	Well, thank you very much, Tantanil.
	But let's take a look at some of the other art that was submitted.
	She's actually tied for second.
	Oh, there you go.
	Let's see, 1706, we had Nerds and Knuckleheads, which, by the way...
	Well, first of all, let's just say this.
	Nestworks, yes.
	This was not a great selection to choose from.
	And Nerds and Knuckleheads, Nestworks, you misspelled knuckleheads.
	Yes.
	So that was a problem.
	Yeah, that's no good.
	That's no good.
	Lots of AI, of course, which my eyes just glaze over from this stuff.
	There's the Kemala.
	There's a donkey screwing or the elephant screwing a donkey.
	I mean, come on.
	Yeah, we're not doing those.
	Trump with Hitler mustaches.
	I mean...
	Hardly creative.
	It's like, you know, the AI stuff, I don't even mind it, but where's the creativity?
	You, of course, immediately your eyes were drawn to, sex event today!
	Oh, Scaramanga's got a sexy babe!
	You liked that one.
	I wasn't promoting that one.
	I mean, I did like it, but I didn't push it.
	Well, that was it, wasn't it?
	You hate women, so I didn't want to overdo it.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sorry, I forgot how much I hate women.
	And dogs.
	Well, no, that's been proven to be fake news.
	Yes, you're right.
	The dogs thing was a fake news.
	Although I still question whether you like dogs before you got this latest dog of yours.
	I had dogs in the past.
	You remember I had dogs?
	I had dogs, cats?
	Yes.
	Three dogs at one point.
	Yeah, three dogs and three cats at one point.
	For a long time, too.
	Three dogs and three cats?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I had a kennel.
	That's it.
	There was nothing else really worth mentioning.
	But, thank you very much.
	Tantanil comes through, saves the day with her Kemala.
	Which is great.
	And everybody loved it.
	A lot of people sent me notes.
	Oh, best art ever.
	It's always best art ever.
	It's the best ever.
	It was best ever.
	Thank you so much, Tantanil.
	We appreciate it.
	Now we move to the treasure portion of the three Ts of value for value.
	Time, talent, and treasure.
	Man, there was another conversation.
	We have a social network for the developers at podcastindex.social.
	And it's always the same thing.
	There's always some guy that says, well, value for value.
	I mean, that's like if I go to a coffee shop and I ask for a coffee, get a coffee, and they say five bucks, I got value for value.
	No, that's not how it works.
	Oh, you're saying it's tips.
	No, no.
	Oh, it's busking.
	That's always my favorite.
	Busky.
	We're busking.
	No.
	We learned early on That we give you the show in all its glory, full-on, all premium content, all the way, nothing else but the good stuff, nothing hidden, nothing held back, and then you just decide what it's worth to you.
	And from time to time, or as often as you want, you send us something that represents that.
	Is that another Topo Chico?
	And it only works for ethereal products.
	It doesn't work for cups of coffee.
	Right.
	Ethereal products like public broadcasting, for example, they relied on it.
	Church sermonizing, church services.
	It's like some people, they pass the thing around and you, what is this worth to you?
	And you put your money in an envelope usually so you don't embarrass yourself, even though I think the envelopes are, you shouldn't make it, show the hundred bucks.
	I think these days they just pop a QR code.
	Send us a Venmo.
	No.
	So instead, we just ask you to send back whatever value you get from the show.
	And this, of course, being a celebratory episode, we also, this is the final opportunity for the Commodore promotion, which is just a beautiful, you will like this Commodore thing.
	Yeah.
	Now, anyone who mails in for it, and we also had a note today from an Australian saying, it turns out that $333 is the Commodore donation in Australia.
	It turns out to be $504, which I thought was cute, and somebody said, where can I get a Commodore ship?
	Yes, you could, and we're going to extend it a week for the Australians who, you know, or this one person in particular.
	Wait a minute, so the Australians can send $500 Australian dollary dues?
	No, $333 Australian...
	No, yes.
	You're going the wrong way.
	$500 a deuce is $333.
	Isn't that interesting?
	And because we appreciate them, because they still use something called the dollar, we're honoring that.
	You see with the Canadians.
	Which you always do.
	And then, do the New Zealands have the dollar too?
	We don't hear from the New Zealands.
	The New Zealands hate us.
	They've dropped off the map.
	Yacinda ruined it for us.
	No, so we'd like to thank a number of people in a special segment, the ones who really stepped up and came in.
	We call them our executive and associate executive producers.
	Why?
	Because they're doing exactly what executive and associate executive producers do, which is they support the product.
	And so if you come in $200 or above, you get an associate executive producer credit, and that is a credit that is real.
	It is forever.
	You can use it forever.
	Ever and ever and ever.
	And we'll vouch for you as long as we're live.
	We'll vouch for you.
	And you can put on your resume.
	You can put on your social...
	LinkedIn, business cards.
	Yep, exactly.
	Or imdb.com.
	When you say, oh, I'm a...
	Wait, you're an executive producer?
	Yeah, I'm on imdb.com.
	Oh, that'll shut someone up real quick.
	It's a good one.
	And it's kind of like editor-at-large.
	In a way.
	Only it's the real deal.
	You don't have to be fat.
	You can be fat.
	It used to be called Editor Is Large.
	They changed it.
	As fat or as skinny as you want to produce the No Agenda show.
	So $300 above, executive producer, and we read your note.
	And we're going to kick it off.
	Again, celebratory episode for 17 years.
	And right off the bat, here we go.
	India, Tango, Mike, stand by, 33, 33, 33, Rubble Eiser out.
	That is David Rosa from Clarkson, Michigan.
	Comes in with the Rubbalizer donation.
	3333.33.
	Thank you so much.
	And he says, John and Adam, it's my anniversary.
	No, wait.
	It's your anniversary.
	No, wait.
	It's both our anniversaries.
	That's correct.
	You're a producer.
	I'm looking forward to celebrating four more anniversaries with the best podcast in the universe.
	Normally, I'd ask for No Jingles, No Karma, but Rubble Eyes Your Jingle is obligatory, and I just gave it to you.
	Thank you, David.
	That is fantastic.
	Very generous.
	Thank you for blessing us with that.
	Dame, lady...
	What is this?
	Get over it?
	Get over it!
	Get over it!
	Hello?
	Hello?
	I'm doing it now.
	Yeah, you're not doing it now.
	I've contaminated you and I'm healed.
	I will see.
	We'll see.
	Because I keep saying it, it's going to come back.
	Nope.
	Monroe Washington, I don't even know where that is, but she came in with $1,500 and says, Dear Podfather, please forgive me.
	It's been two years since my last donation where I thank you for the successful baby-making karma.
	Oh.
	It's powerful.
	It's powerful stuff.
	You can win football games.
	You can make babies.
	It's all there.
	Name the baby John C. Adam.
	No.
	That's what she says.
	Show me a birth certificate.
	This is John C. Adam.
	J-A-H-N-S-I-E. John C. Adam.
	You know what?
	I'm going to choose to believe it.
	I believe there's a kid out there named John C. Adam.
	I believe it.
	Born July 2023, and we're now expecting our second human resource.
	I would like to share this Commodore ship with my husband.
	So there's two of them involved here, I guess, two Commodore ships.
	It helps when baby-making process.
	And best friend Sir Hopscotch, so we have three, of the digital horde.
	Unfortunately, he is a deadbeat.
	Mo Fax.
	A Mo Fax deadbeat.
	A Mo Fax deadbeat.
	And he is an amazing father and husband.
	I would like...
	I can make sense of that, what she just said.
	I would like the third portion to go to Sir Billy Bones.
	Oh, Billy Bones.
	Billy Bones, yeah.
	Billy Bones.
	He cooks.
	He cleans.
	He's a minister of fungi.
	He makes music.
	He's a podcast.
	He's a woodworker.
	And he's single.
	Ladies!
	There we go.
	I'm saying he's good with two hands and now he's a commodore.
	I would appreciate Jobs Karma because my employer sucks.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Love is lit.
	Dame, lady, get over it.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Miss Jobs.
	Yes.
	Regular polymath, Sir Billy Bones is.
	Jennifer Hughes comes in with $1,030.26 and says, congrats on 17 years.
	I want to say thanks for your media deconstruction.
	I am a compounding pharmacist and a fan of John's endorsement for the clearly filtered picture.
	All right.
	And I'd like to be called Dame Jen, legal drug dealer of the Cedar Valley.
	No jingles, no karma, no exit strategy.
	All right, Dame Jen, you'll be up on the podium later.
	Tyler Systems LLC in Alaska.
	Alaska, yes.
	$1,030.26.
	Thanks partly to the wisdom, he writes, thanks partly to the wisdom and strength I have received from your show, I can make a celebratory donation for my new company, Tyler Systems LLC of Alaska.
	I've worked on and off with startups in the tech industry globally since I was 16.
	I'm 32 now, twice as old.
	And I'm still working a full-time job while my new business gets off the ground.
	I'm starting with offering AI-powered workflow automation services and consulting, but I aspire to grow the company into a regional Arctic AI and IT leader.
	I'm hoping we can build a business based on trust and treating people well instead of spying on our customers and ripping them off.
	The tech industry norm.
	He puts in parentheses there.
	I humbly request to be named Sir Tyler in Alaska.
	I just need a name as there's plenty of land here in testing Dvorak's cold read skills.
	I'm wondering if you'll read aloud Tyler Systems.
	They do great work in real time so I can quote a testimonial from the famous podcaster and renowned tech journalist, retired.
	You'll find that...
	That quote on the new website, coming soon!
	Emeritus.
	At www.tylersystems.com, we're outsourcing problems and insourcing solutions.
	Oh, there you go.
	There you go.
	There it is.
	Oh, I like that.
	Now you got it.
	Yeah, that was really good.
	We're insourcing solutions.
	Reach out to Tyler at tylersystems.com in the interim with gratitude from one of your many motivated millennials, Tyler in Alaska.
	Oh, right.
	We love the motivated millennials.
	I guess these are $1,000 PayPals with fees added.
	I'm guessing, yeah, that would be right.
	Which is appreciated.
	And Craig Allen did the same, 1,030 and 26.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	This is a no-brainer.
	For the past few weeks, I've seen 33 everywhere.
	I knew I had to donate.
	With this offering, I wasn't going to hesitate.
	No jingles, just karma for the knighthood.
	Knight me, Sir Craig Allen of Gila River.
	I think it's Gila or Gila?
	Gila.
	Gila River.
	I think it's Gila.
	Gila.
	Like Gila Monster.
	Gila.
	Sir Craig Allen of Gila River.
	And he's in Sacaton, Arizona.
	You got it, brother.
	You've got karma.
	Brian Jones in Camby, Indiana.
	560.
	06.
	560.
	06.
	Five small sets of boobs.
	It's been a while since I last donated and I knew it was time to give you back some value for the show.
	Several signs in the life lately pointed me to donate to No Agenda.
	Like the name of Vince McMahon giving facial expressions.
	Like the meme.
	The meme, I'm sorry.
	The meme of Vince McMahon.
	Okay, I don't know why that would be associative, but okay.
	First it was buying some gigawatt coffee from Eli the Coffee Guy.
	By the way.
	And then including some nice handwritten notes sprinkled with our favorite no agenda phrases.
	Don't forget to use ITM20 at checkout or code Bungino.
	The second time life reminded me to donate was sitting at a gate in an airport a couple weeks ago watching a guy...
	Fist his bag of nuts while he stood waiting for the boarding to begin.
	I know John C. doesn't like that jingle, so I won't request it, but if it's played, it always gets a laugh out of me.
	The third sign I knew it was right time to donate was the Commodore donation.
	I'm proud to accept the Commodore ranking and happy to help executive produce this fine episode of the No Agenda show.
	I humbly request some You've Got Karma Due to climate change, to assist me in the life ahead.
	Thank you for your courage and four more years, Ryan Jones.
	You've got karma due to climate change.
	And Sir Tom is in St.
	Paul, Minneapolis.
	555.10.
	555.10.
	He says, it's been longer than I care to admit since my last donation, so it's high time to make amends and up the ante.
	See, people do this.
	And that's appreciated.
	That's a completely valid way of supporting the show.
	As the originator of the Double Nickels on the Dime donation way back on episode 179, I hereby donate 5510, that's the Double Nickels on the Dime, and chip in an additional 500 for a Commodore commission to be known as a Triple Nickels on the Dime donation.
	You've named it.
	You've claimed it.
	Good to go.
	I would like to officially update my title to Surveyor Commodore of the Northern and Northwestern Lakes.
	A bit of trivia.
	This is always good.
	The Great Lakes were generally referred to as the Northern and Northwestern Lakes on navigation charts up to the early 1900s.
	Well, this is something I did not know.
	Wow, useless information.
	For a jingle, please play Trains Good, Planes Bad.
	Thanks!
	All aboard, trains good!
	Thank you, brother.
	Very nice.
	Greg Clifton in Morganfield, Kentucky.
	53342.
	And he did send in a note, which I'll jump over to, which is a handwritten note.
	I don't have it.
	I've been listening to the show for almost four years, and I've never missed an episode since spring of 2021.
	Y'all are the best!
	Congratulations on 17 years.
	I'm mailing this note and a paper check to save those nasty fees.
	Like John, my father was a Kentucky colonel, so I could not pass up the opportunity to become a commodore of the best podcasts in the universe.
	This donation also qualifies me for knighthood.
	Please knight me Sir Cliffy!
	At the round table, a bottle of...
	What is this?
	Eagle...
	Roe bourbon?
	Eagle...
	Can you read that?
	You can't read it.
	No, I have it right here.
	Let's see.
	Where does he say the bourbon on here?
	You've got to tell me what it is because I haven't put that on the order list.
	So it's the round table like about Eagle Rare.
	Oh, Eagle Rare bourbon.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And what else did he have there?
	And a 902 filet cooked medium rare would be much appreciated.
	A 902 medium filet.
	A 902 medium...
	Medium rare.
	Medium...
	Filet...
	Cooks, okay.
	I've got to put this through the kitchen.
	Well, they're not very good at hitting the number on the cooking.
	They're very good at it.
	What are you talking about?
	No, they're no good.
	Okay, you want to finish this note?
	Yeah, Jingles, please play Mac and Cheese and Boogity.
	Thank you both for your courage, and especially to Adam.
	When sharing your faith in Jesus Christ, what a platform you have to show the good news.
	Share the good news, yes.
	The good news.
	Not only on your show, but also...
	Places like Rogan.
	Cheers to you both for four more years and may you never find an exit strategy.
	Yours truly, soon to be, Sir Cliffy.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Macaroni and cheese.
	Cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
	And we go to Sir Roger with 533.33.
	And he says, Sir Roger of the Borough of Hats here.
	Congrats on 17 years for my Commodore Shippling.
	We'll just go with Commodore Roger.
	I could also use an F cancer for my niece.
	Thank you for your courage and four more years.
	You've got karma.
	I should remind Roger and the others that you have to go to NoAgendaRings.com and fill out the form for the Commodore certificate so we sent it to the right place with the right name on it.
	Right on.
	Dame Lizardi in La Harp, Kansas.
	5-17-33.
	And this is a switcheroo.
	Happy 17th anniversary.
	This Commodore ship is being given to Matt the Metal Bender.
	From his beautiful smoking hot wife, if I do say so myself, says Dame Lazardi.
	You go for it.
	To help him get halfway to his knighthood.
	He is a fitting, it is a fitting title as he loved his home in the U.S. Navy years ago.
	Oh, his time in the U.S. I can't, I'm sorry, blurry vision.
	Please play the full Reverend Al Respect role, a long version, and job's goat karma.
	Thank you for your courage, Matt Leroy, Dame Lizardi.
	She's getting lunch at Chipotle.
	The Tortoise in the race.
	Kim Kardashian.
	Siganoi Weaver.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	They're all jitty. R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	There's no real conflict.
	Resist.
	We must.
	We must.
	And we will much.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma.
	Ah, well worth it.
	I haven't played the long version in a while.
	Robert...
	Yeah, we will much be committed.
	Robert Kerbeck.
	Kerbeck?
	Kerbeck.
	Essexville, Michigan.
	$500.
	So we presume that's a Commodore ship.
	You'll go to NoAgendaRings.com to enter all the information.
	No notes, so you're going to double up karma.
	We've got...
	Double up!
	Karma.
	I'll grab the next one to make it easy on my partner here.
	Ray Harris in Holt, Michigan.
	A lot of Michiganders.
	$500.
	ITM Adam and John.
	Long-time listener of many years here after being endlessly reminded of my douchebag status by my smoking hot girlfriend Lisa, Dame Cicerone of Catland.
	It is time for me to finally donate.
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	I would like to be known as Commodore Harris.
	Please play Rubbleyzer and Chemtrails.
	Tango. Mike.
	Stand by. 33. 33. 33. Rubbleyzer out. Chemtrails.
	By Ayn Rand.
	Dimitri Hossein, Hossein, Hossein in Stahl Hill?
	Stahl Hillie?
	Oh, it's in Belgium.
	Stahl Hillie.
	500.
	Tired of being a douchebag.
	If you would kindly de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	We need more Belgians listening to this show.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Love the show.
	For a Commodore ship title, you can call me Commodore Skellen.
	Skellen.
	Maybe Adam might get this.
	Get it?
	Do you get it, Adam?
	Kind regards to some sort of a pun or joke.
	And Adam's supposed to get it.
	Skellen.
	Skellen.
	He's not getting it.
	Skellen.
	I do not remember.
	Noagenderrings.com.
	Yes.
	Go there for sure to give us the details.
	Anonymous comes in from Lakewood, Washington with 500.
	Switcheroo, please grant this comment or title to Sharky, the guy who hit me in the mouth around three years ago, and I thank God for that.
	Thank you, he says.
	You're welcome.
	Sir EA of the tax domain in Clarkston, Michigan.
	And that's another one.
	Michigander.
	Interesting.
	500.
	Commodore EA. Sir EA of the text domain.
	Baron Ph.D. Oh, he's got all the titles.
	Very nice.
	Yeah, he's got it made.
	Aubin Q. Aubin Q. in Anchorage, Alaska.
	The Alaskanians are in, too.
	$500.
	Hey, gents.
	Aubin Q. from Anchorage, Alaska.
	Semi-douchebag here.
	$20.18 monthly subscription since 2018, but listeners since 2014 could not say no to such a title as Commodore.
	So amazing.
	I would like to be Commodore Q of D'Elmore.
	Can I get an IPA? Well, you don't really get...
	Ah, screw it.
	It's 17th anniversary.
	I'm going to order an IPA in a Club Paris Filet form.
	Just a quick ants and some relationship and job karma if you could for more years.
	Well, we'll give you a very quick ants then in that case.
	It's our favorite ant jingle.
	What do you got?
	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	We've got ants.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You thought.
	Oh, no.
	Zachary Stockstill.
	you In Odessa, Texas.
	500.
	Commodore Zachary Stockstill, a.k.a.
	Baron Grease Monkey.
	That's all he says.
	Perfect.
	We've got, oh, Sir Patrick Coble.
	Fairview, Tennessee.
	Hey, good to hear from you, Sir Patrick.
	500.
	Happy 17th anniversary.
	Now, Duke of the South becomes the Commodore of the South.
	I could use some Trump's Jobs business karma if you have any.
	Thank you both for all you do.
	And the team!
	Alright, thank you to the team.
	That's beautiful, man.
	Thank you so much.
	Jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Jim Turner, Louisville, Kentucky.
	500.
	ITM, gentlemen, happy 17th in the best podcast in the universe.
	I could not in good conscience let this opportunity to become a no-agenda commodore pass by.
	I was dubious at first.
	As a born and raised Kentuckian and a recently retired Army colonel, I was taken aback and disappointed to find that my state had bestowed the honor of Kentucky colonel on the mere transient such as John K. While I am left to flounder as a mere peasant.
	Alas!
	I swallowed my pride and thought it appropriate to add the title of Commodore and eventually hang the certificate next to my no-agenda PhD.
	Four more years, no jingles, just some jobs karma.
	Jim Turner, Commodore, Sir James of the Derby City, PhD.
	Louisville, Kentucky.
	P.S. I was debunked when I was passed along John's tip of the day.
	I was debunked when I passed along John's tip of the day regarding this.
	Gray goose at Costco's.
	Fancy Vodka.
	I was promptly provided with news article refuting John's assertion.
	Evidence to...
	Okay, the thing is, that Grey Goose is produced in the...
	That Costco vodka is French and it's produced in the old Grey Goose factory using the Grey Goose gear.
	And I think it was taken over by some other company.
	But it's Grey Goose.
	I mean, just have a bottle of it and tell me it's no good.
	Have a bottle and tell me that's not Grey Goose.
	Yes.
	It's good stuff.
	That okay.
	Yeah, all right.
	Technically, maybe.
	Let's see.
	We have anonymous.
	Charlotte, North Carolina, 500.
	Please credit producership and commodorship to George P. Burdell.
	No agenda saves my sanity.
	No jingles, just karma.
	Thanks.
	You've got karma.
	J.J.K. Nathan Nolan, Nederland, Texas.
	Nederland.
	Is it Nederland?
	It's Nederland, yeah.
	You think it would have two E's then, don't you?
	No, I don't.
	Well, any normal person would think so.
	We spell Bernie B-O-E-R-N-E. I mean, come on.
	We're crazy here.
	We're out of control.
	In Niederland, Texas, $500.
	All is just simple, 17th anniversary, Commodore of Niederland, yes.
	Keaton Stone, Indianapolis, Indiana, $500.
	In the morning, I am Gen Z, second year apprentice, plumber, welder in Indiana.
	Clap for you, Gen Z. You're going to be the richest one on the blog.
	Probably.
	You can't go wrong.
	I couldn't resist getting my Commodore title.
	I would be known as Commodore of the Indiana Stones.
	And he would like climate change.
	Oh, due to climate change.
	And they're eating the dogs.
	So I'll play them in opposite order for you.
	Thank you for your courage.
	They're eating the dogs.
	Due to climate change.
	There you go.
	It just remains funny.
	Patrick Brown's up, or as they would say in Texas, Patrick Brownie.
	Fairfax, Virginia.
	Thank you for your courage.
	ITM requesting dude named Ben.
	If requests are even a thing for Commodore ships, thanks again.
	Yes, you can be Commodore dude named Ben.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, just go to noagendarings.com.
	And by the way, people sending in donation notes, make sure to put donation in the subject line.
	Thank you.
	Andrew Perez, San Marcos, Texas.
	Not far from here, 500.
	ITM, gents, congrats on 17 years.
	I'll be a knight as well.
	Please knight me Sir P. Rez, Commodore of FL-330.
	That's flight level 330.
	That's 33,000 feet.
	As a retired Navy guy, this promotion scratches me where I itch.
	JCD, he says, what is a shaggy dog story?
	The Shaggy Dog Story, which was, if you ever got to see the old PBS show, which is out of England, actually, it was called The Two Ronnies.
	One of the Ronnies would do a Shaggy Dog Story once during the show as a comedian.
	Shaggy Dog Story is, and you always, there's always some guy in the office that can tell a Shaggy Dog Story.
	Shaggy Dog Story is a story that, one, it's like, pretty much the way Trump talks.
	The Weave!
	It wanders off the topic and off the topic and off the topic and then it comes kind of back around to what the point was and then has a pun at the end like, hey Roy, is that the cat that chewed your new shoes or something like that?
	Some really lame pun that's always a groaner.
	And it takes about five to ten minutes to tell, and a good Shaggy Dog guy that can tell a good Shaggy Dog story kind of keeps you, it's funnier, the telling of the joke is funnier than the punchline.
	That's the Shaggy Dog story.
	I had no idea.
	You've heard them.
	I had no idea it originated with the two Ronnies.
	No, it didn't originate.
	It's just that he was one of the best at telling them.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Four more years, he says.
	Four more years.
	Cercut Bored.
	That's funny.
	Because it's spelled B-O-R-E-D, but Cercut Bored in Terrence Park, Ohio.
	It's my birthday, too!
	Love you guys!
	Cercut Bored, $500.
	Jeremy Fort in Jerome, Indiana 500.
	Podcast Startup Karma.
	Hey, hit me up.
	I'll give you some tips.
	I want to be Commodore Fort and the Trio Fleet.
	I have three daughters.
	Blessings to you both.
	Jeremy Fort, Jerome, Idaho.
	Alright, podcast startup karma for you.
	Here you go.
	You've got podcast.
	You've got karma.
	Dame Meowdison.
	Oh, yes.
	Dame Meowdison.
	She's a fan favorite.
	A fan favorite in Altamont Springs, Florida.
	She's a Floridian.
	And she says, Hello, boys!
	Dame Meadison here asking for a Commodore title.
	Yes, I will go to NoAgendaRings.com and follow the instructions.
	Good for her.
	Yeah, good.
	But I got a note from one of our female producers.
	Women don't want these Commodore ships!
	See, it was grouchy.
	Really?
	And what did you say?
	Yes, you do!
	I didn't say anything.
	You didn't reply?
	Oh, you're a non-reply?
	I replied about something.
	It was a long note.
	I didn't reply about that.
	I'm getting very close to countess status, and I would like to say thank you both for always being a source of knowledge and smiles.
	I'm grateful for the show and the community.
	The community, as she writes.
	Yes, community.
	Connection truly is protection.
	I shall meet some awesome people at the Okeechobee.
	She met some last week.
	You two have inspired me to start a Value for Value YouTube channel to share my love of yoga.
	I'll be sure to send an update when I'm ready to drop the channel.
	Smash that subscribe button, everybody.
	Smash it.
	However, I must air a tiny grievance and tell you that...
	That I was a bit let down in July when I sent in a handwritten card and check with bagels on it.
	Beagles, not bagels.
	But neither of you mentioned it.
	Beagles, not bagels.
	Oh, I thought I said bagels.
	Talk about a sad puppy.
	I picked them out, especially for you two.
	I will look past it, though, because you guys are fantastic.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Love you, mean it.
	John, it's on my bucket list to meet you one day, so if you plan on any big meetups, please let the people know.
	There's going to be one in Emeryville next month.
	But it's a long way.
	Too far to drive.
	You've got fans!
	Jingles.
	Climategate and the multi-language ITM, please and on.
	Thank you.
	Thank the Swifties for Trump.
	That's Swifties for Trump.
	Oh, she says thank you and then Swifties for Trump.
	She's a Swiftie.
	She's a Swiftie.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	In the morning, para maana.
	No matter what, no more than.
	Then we move to Sir Il Pope de Ciclismo, Aveiro, Portugal.
	Call.
	That's right, Portugal.
	I think we have a meetup report from Portugal coming up later on.
	Dear John Adam, last Friday, I along with my...
	Oh, yes.
	I along with my wife attended the Porto Portal meetup.
	Porto Portal meetup.
	Get up?
	Where I met Sir...
	Artless Chance and his lovely wife.
	Beers and sausages were consumed and we exchanged numbers for reconnecting when needed.
	The connection is protection.
	It was fun to meet open-minded people.
	It was a small meet-up, but a most excellent meet-up it was.
	Thank you, Sir Artless Chance.
	We are looking forward to the next event here in the Portugal-slash-Spain region.
	Please, for my Commodore name, I would like to become Commodore Sir Il Pope Di Ciclismo.
	And this donation brings me to baronet level, and I would like to be known as Baronet Sir Il Pope de Ciclismo.
	A heartfelt thank to both of you and to 17 more years.
	Dream on.
	Sir Il Pope de Ciclismo, a proud no-agenda black knight and allegedly a criminal of sort.
	Yeah, because he lives in Portugal.
	Jingles, I felt something warm on my leg due to climate change and some karma.
	I just felt something hot on my leg due to climate change.
	You've got karma.
	David West is in Marysville, Washington, 500.
	Dear John and Adam, I've been listening somewhere around, somewhere since show 700 with Clock Boy.
	Remember Clock Boy?
	Oh, Clock Boy.
	Whatever happened to Clock Boy?
	Their whole family left and went to the Middle East where they belong.
	Yeah.
	Remember Obama was all in on Clock Boy?
	Just because of the color of his skin, they called him a terrorist.
	The dude was walking around with what looked like a bomb at school.
	Yeah.
	Clock Boy.
	That's what began my being kicked off the Twitch show.
	Oh, that's right.
	That was the catalyst.
	Because you were racist.
	Because I said this Clock Boy thing was a scam!
	I was hit in the mouth by my good friend George Lindholm, a.k.a.
	Sir Art Vandele.
	I had to get a Commodore title before time ran out.
	It also brings me to the knighthood accounting below.
	I'd like to be known as Sir Joe McGillicuddy.
	I love Lucy fans may recognize this.
	Yes, of course.
	I appreciate it, which is being replayed on MeTV endlessly.
	I appreciate your pursuit of truth in analyzing the news.
	And Adam, I'm so happy you found salvation in Jesus Christ, the ultimate source of truth.
	Amen.
	John, I appreciate your skepticism.
	People should be more skeptical.
	Amen.
	Here's a plug for at least four more years and no exit strategy.
	God bless you both.
	I hope that doesn't offend you, John.
	David West in Marysville, Washington.
	So offended.
	Shannon Vest is in Tacoma, Washington.
	We're out of the Commodore ships.
	We're now at 343.75.
	Incredible!
	I am finally donating!
	The universe keeps tossing three three threes in my path, so I figured it was a sign.
	Yes, it always is.
	House-selling and health karma, s'il vous plaît.
	Happy 17th from Tacoma, Washington.
	Please play No, No, No, No Adams Family and whoop them with the Constitution.
	Thank you!
	Okay, you know what?
	No, no, no, no.
	Classy.
	Forgot about this one.
	What?
	Listen.
	You're in my house.
	Drinking the booze.
	Shame on you.
	Another classic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah!
	Manning.
	Forgot all about him.
	Carano in Erika Netherlands.
	Is it pronounced Erika?
	Erika.
	Erika!
	Hi, TM, gents.
	I'm quitting my company because I'm done.
	I'm done.
	I don't feel like it anymore.
	After more than 20 years, time for something else.
	Negotiations for the sale are ongoing.
	I do not have an exit strategy yet, so I have recently started working in a factory business.
	As a process operator, the night shifts are the best with no agenda in the universe in my earphones.
	But maybe the best crypto in the universe is my exit strategy.
	DomeShot on the go.
	Pulsechain.
	Launched on 9-11-2024.
	Unlock tokens by unlocking mines on DomeShot.com.
	.io is an introductory video by co-founder Matt Long.
	The donation does not bring me to Knighthood yet, but it does bring me to New Agenda Commodore.
	You know, the Commodore ship's a one-shot donation.
	It's not a cumulative one.
	So you may want to reconsider this.
	We don't, those special things like the PhDs and things aren't something, you don't accumulate, you just buy.
	Knighthoods you can, yes, so you get a knighthood.
	I would like to be appointed as Carl Commodore of the Fatherlands.
	Keep up the good work.
	I would like some karma.
	Four more years.
	Greetings.
	Quirano.
	Quirano Martin and Erika.
	Ut Erika.
	Ut Erika.
	And you're going to share this karma with Shannon Vest.
	You've got karma.
	Forgot to give Shannon the karma.
	No, Ut Erika means from, not from.
	Ut.
	Sir Hair Heel, White Salmon, Washington, 333.33, need some jobs karma for my interview this week.
	Last time I requested, too late!
	But not making the same mistake this time, could also use some F-cancer karma from Sir Hair Heel.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You got karma.
	Brian Gardy in Granbury, Texas.
	Or it could be pronounced Greenberry or Barry.
	Granbury.
	Granbury.
	Granbury, Texas.
	Came in with $333.33.
	Got no notes, so he gets a double up karma.
	You've got...
	Double up.
	Karma.
	And then, coming in from Bensonville, Illinois, and I'm happy because today I am, in fact, drinking...
	Gigawatt Coffee Roasters Coffee.
	Yeah?
	Which specific one?
	The Black Bag.
	That's the specialty coffee from the Black Bag.
	This is the Honduras Dark Roast.
	I've had that.
	It's quite good.
	Very good.
	And he comes in with two 1027 gentlemen.
	Congrats on 17 years of high-caliber media deconstruction.
	Keep up the good work.
	Jingles.
	He would like an orange.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Where is it?
	Orange.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I missed your orange.
	And then four more years.
	Okay.
	Four more years.
	We'll do it on the fly for you.
	And for producers, Who want excellent roasted coffee shipped to your doorstep?
	Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
	Use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
	Stay caffeinated.
	Eli the coffee guy.
	Orange!
	Four more years!
	Ah, boom.
	Fletcher.
	Chris Fisher in Tonawanda, New York.
	$203.33.
	As a long-time listener, I want to commend you both for helping me hone my skills in studying media deconstruction.
	I do want to point out that this show has started to get off-centered and it's starting to lean a little...
	To that point, I'm a center-focused Democrat and embrace all sides of the debate.
	I am a U.S. Army vet and law enforcement professional.
	I want you to know that there are still good Democrats out there in local governments, and I'm one of them!
	I'll keep my notes short, which is already too long, by the way.
	But just like you read the coffee guy and the image maker's person's notes, my website is www.chrisfisher.org and people can see that there is still a Democrat out there working for the people.
	I focus on fixing sidewalks, fixing elections, and oh, I'm sorry, I didn't say that.
	Fixing sidewalks, amending local ordinances, and keeping property tax increases from going through the roof.
	You don't sound like a Democrat at all.
	All I ask is that you and everyone else check out the www.chrisfisher.org to see that there are still centered Democrats working for the people.
	No karma, no jingles.
	Just W and W. Okay, you can overdo it.
	That's one too many.
	My donation, 233, 20333, was sent through Stripe because just like you don't like Act Blue that I use...
	I do not support PayPal.
	I had to add 333 to my $200 donation so I could get some airtime.
	If I can just say, we have nothing against Democrats.
	You sound more like an old school Democrat to me.
	We both have Democrats in our families, in our immediate families.
	I was Democrat most of my life.
	So we just don't like nutjob Democrats or nutjob Republicans for that matter.
	And I'm sorry, Kamala Harris fits in the nutjob Democrats in this case.
	So that's why you feel we're leaning a little bit.
	We're just trying to keep people sane in the insanity.
	Thank you for your promotion.
	Alex in Ottawa, Ontario, $200.33.
	Hi, John Adam.
	I just got back from the Ottawa meetup.
	It was great to meet this many like-minded people in the heart of Soviet Pakistan.
	Please de-douche it.
	You've been de-douched.
	And he would also like a respect to M for organizing.
	Hope to see everyone at the next one.
	Alex from Ottawa.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T Yeah, well, there she is, Linda Lupatkin.
	She's in Lakewood, Colorado, and surprisingly enough, requests jobs.
	Carmen says, happy anniversary to the best podcast in the universe.
	Love you, mean it, and for the best resume in the universe.
	Work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.
	Short and sweet.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	And I need to insert a associate executive producer donation here from Rob Carty, who took us out to dinner.
	It was semi-embarrassing, but we're there at the table, you know, there's eight people.
	He's like, oh, here!
	Hands and envelope.
	Thanks.
	He donated $200.33 and he has a note.
	ITM, Adam and John, please accept this check for $200.33 and with this donation, hand-delivered to Adam on the show's 17th anniversary, told you we celebrated, I officially crossed the threshold into knighthood, accounting attached as Exhibit 1.
	He's a lawyer, so...
	Exhibit 1.
	He did attach Exhibit 1.
	May it please the Parage Committee, Codon.
	I humbly ask to be knighted Sir Rob.Lawyer, Constitutional Lawyer.
	Yes, Rob.Lawyer is indeed a URL. Texas and California producers should bookmark it, because you just never know when you'll need to summon a dude in a suit.
	Seriously, put them on speed dial.
	For the accolade feast, I respectfully request Texas brisket and beans along with some Braunschweiger for my smoking hot German wife Maggie.
	Sie ist so heiß und wunderschön.
	Also, heads up to all producers attending Monday's Minneapolis meetup, please welcome my little sister Katie Tierney and her husband Tom.
	These great Americans will be in attendance, offering heaps of cheer and effervescence.
	I respectfully request the usual open up Adam Curry jingle.
	Oh, that's right.
	I didn't get that one either.
	Open up Adam Curry jingle.
	Yes, we got that one.
	And what else does he want?
	And karma.
	So that we may all form an impenetrable cone of justice over Gitmo Nation.
	Sincerely, Rob Carty.
	No agendas.
	Constitutional lawyer.
	Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Open up the door, Mrs.
	Curry.
	You've got karma.
	That's right.
	When I hear that sound, believe me, I will be calling Rob.
	Well, now you can read the longest note of the day.
	I just read a long note of the day.
	You haven't read the long, long note?
	Annie Breglia, Middleburg, New York, 200.
	I have been listening and making sustaining donations when I could since 2017.
	I want to express my gratitude for the work you do.
	There is nowhere else I can receive sustained and balanced information regarding so much that I care deeply about, most notably trends that intentionally cause harm to children, our health, and the state of our nation.
	I learn a great deal more in The Bargain, things about AI and helicopters.
	And I myself have changed.
	I've become patriotic.
	I have overcome much of the programming of my youth.
	John, this is a success note.
	I'm happy I get to read it.
	And I get to laugh with two allies through it all, assisting in the shrinkage of my amygdala.
	To celebrate all of this glory, please play I Got Ants.
	People love the Ant song.
	I cannot imagine life without you.
	I don't look forward to your exit strategy, but I know that everything changes.
	You deserve the best version of reality that you can create.
	To anyone who is listening and benefiting, do the right thing.
	Donate!
	Gratitude and blessings to you both, to your families and to all your listeners.
	From Annie Breglia in Middleburg, New York.
	Thank you very much, Annie.
	$200 in associate executive producership for you in the credits today.
	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	You've got karma.
	Karma.
	There you go.
	That wraps up our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,707 of the best podcast in the universe on our 17th anniversary.
	Do people get a special 17th anniversary producership, right?
	I presume that's what we usually do.
	Yeah, it's special.
	17th anniversary special producership.
	So it's not just, oh, I'm a producer.
	No, I actually produce the special, the 17th anniversary special.
	We appreciate you all so much.
	We appreciate everybody who supports the show in any manner, time, talent, or treasure.
	In particular, thank you to people who take the time to go and set up a sustaining donation, which is any amount, any frequency, you set up yourself, you maintain it.
	And we'll be thanking people $50 and above.
	In just a little bit, we do have more show to go.
	And once again, thank you to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1707.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out...
	We'll hit people in the mouth.
	Order.
	Chemtrails.
	Shut up, slave.
	Yowza.
	Yowza, yowza, yowza.
	Oh, well, since we just had that note from...
	Annie.
	Annie.
	Megan Kelly was on Bill Maher.
	I saw that.
	She took him to the cleaners.
	Wow, you can say that.
	Especially regarding the trans-Maoism.
	And I thought it was clip-worthy and would like to share it with y'all.
	Almost equally important, maybe as important, is what we're doing to our children with this trans insanity.
	I mean, this is almost my single issue.
	We are chopping off the healthy body parts of young children without...
	100% we are doing that.
	Well, we are definitely doing that.
	Without any inquisition.
	That's what it is.
	I don't know what the oohing is about.
	I don't either.
	Pay attention.
	I'm about to give you a truth bomb.
	Kids who are suffering from bullying or who have been sexually assaulted or who are going through normal puberty and feel uncomfortable in their bodies will say to their parents, I'm not sure, maybe I'm gender confused, they will send them into a psychiatrist or psychologist who are told by our organizations, the American Psychiatry Association and All the others that run their licensing.
	You must affirm.
	Affirm is the only standard.
	And so the child gets told, you're right, you are secretly a boy or vice versa.
	And the child gets put on puberty blockers, into cross-sex hormones, which sterilize a child and deprive the child of any chance of sexual pleasure for the rest of his or her life.
	We're talking about 9, 10, 11-year-olds who cannot give informed consent.
	Then they have body parts chopped off.
	By a medical establishment and by parents who mean well but believe in these doctors and they shouldn't.
	And when they inevitably get past the awkwardness of puberty or what have you and they want to turn around and detransition, those who love-bomb them on Reddit saying, come on in, the water's fine, abandon them.
	They are depressed.
	They have changed their bodies forever in a way that is irreversible.
	And we are all sitting back saying, it's a remote issue, as Kamala Harris said.
	It's not remote.
	It's the issue of our time, both with respect to children and women's rights.
	And with this comes a shocking, shocking story that the New York Times published earlier this week.
	Headline, U.S. study on puberty blockers goes unpublished because of politics, doctor says.
	The leader of the long-running study since 2015 said that the drugs did not improve mental health in children with gender distress and that the finding might be weaponized by opponents of the care.
	So she held back the results of this study for almost a decade.
	Because, you know, we're in a charged American political environment, Dr.
	Olson Kennedy.
	I'm just waiting.
	I don't have a clip, but a couple days ago on KTVU, Channel 2, 10 o'clock news, there was a lawsuit going on, kind of almost class action, but there's about five people trying to detransition.
	They're suing the doctors.
	They're suing everybody, but their parents will get sued, too.
	When the legal establishment and stuff like this...
	Get out.
	Lawsuits are going to be flying, and these people that think they're ahead of the game on this are fooling themselves.
	This is going to be one of the greatest bonanzas.
	It's going to make asbestos look like, you know, a picnic.
	Ah!
	They're going to be suing left and right, and I think the parents are going to get caught up in this.
	A lot of them are going to get sued by older kids once they mature and get a clue.
	This is a disaster waiting to happen.
	Almost as big as the disaster that's taking place in your backyard.
	A federal jury in San Francisco has awarded six former BART workers more than a million dollars each over BART's handling of its employee COVID-19 vaccine mandate.
	The six, who objected to the mandate on religious grounds and were fired, sued Bart in 2022 for employment discrimination.
	This week, jurors agreed their religious objections were legit, and Bart had failed to prove that accommodating the workers' religious beliefs would cause them undue hardship.
	They can't just flippantly disregard people of faith and treat them like second-class citizens.
	We hope that BART has received that message loud and clear.
	Brad Dacus is with the Pacific Justice Institute, which represented the six workers.
	He says the verdict puts employers on notice.
	There are heavy prices they're going to have to pay for their intolerance, bigotry, and apparent lack of sensitivity for people of faith wanting to be reasonably accommodated.
	The BART lawsuit is one of thousands related to COVID vaccine mandates working their way through the legal system.
	Legal experts say many never make it to a jury trial because litigants either can't prove they have sincere religious objections or because the company has made accommodations.
	In the context of COVID-19, what a lot of employers have done is offer testing and masking as an alternative to vaccination.
	UC Law San Francisco professor Dorit Rice says the law allowing religious objections to workplace rules has been on the books since 1964.
	I think the take-home for employers is take the law seriously.
	Have a processing place to assess religious exemption and make a good...
	Face efforts where you can to accommodate.
	All of which is what the law says.
	Wow.
	That is amazing.
	Yeah, this is the tip of the iceberg for this.
	And I believe during COVID we even had templates and forms in the show notes for religious exemptions.
	We did.
	So if you make a million bucks, remember your no agenda show.
	Yeah, well...
	The lawyers will probably take half of it, I'm sure.
	Oh, they can only take a third.
	Oh, that's it?
	They can only take a third?
	Yeah, they can take a third.
	This case, which is good, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
	I think they got $7 million for about a million a person, almost.
	Wow.
	I think a little less, but...
	But it was a lot.
	And it, of course, comes out of the BART general fund, meaning you have to pay...
	The guys who promoted the policy should be all fired.
	This is the real issue with me.
	You know, they come up with these policies that cost the system huge amounts of money.
	And nobody...
	Oh, well, whatever.
	It's just not my money.
	I think this is kind of a drawback, but okay.
	In the Season of Reveal category, you know that I'm still following the Diddy Steen stuff because we now have the...
	What?
	Which is going nowhere as far as I can tell.
	Well, yeah, it's going nowhere because this is the true evil in the world is what these people are all wrapped up in, including the Abercrombie and Fitch CEO. And we have boots on the ground, Sir Viper, Sir Viper 515.
	A couple of friends of mine used to occasionally fly for Mike Jeffries.
	This is the now fallen and shameful sex pervert, Mike Jeffries.
	So he used to fly the private jet.
	They would have to spray a particular cologne in the cabin, brush the carpet and headliner in a certain way.
	The, quote, flight attendants had to wear skinny jeans and flip flops.
	One pilot had to meet him at the bottom of the stairs and follow him up, while the other had to be walking in the cabin and meet him at a specific location and say hi to him.
	One of my friends, a six foot six lanky former Marine in the 60s at the time, was requested by name to fly with him.
	These people are sick, they're evil, and they're demonic.
	This reminds me of this story we got, and this was at least a decade ago on the show, about how Al Sharpton's producer had to produce, it was a cup of tea or something, and put it on his desk at a certain specific spot and turn it a certain way.
	Oh, yeah.
	Before he started his show when he had the desk that he used to sit behind.
	This kind of thing.
	This is the diva kind of thing.
	You've heard this about a lot of Hollywood people when they go to a hotel.
	When they check in, they have to have a certain kind of flower and a certain kind of this and a that.
	This has to be over here and this has to be over there.
	What is wrong with these people?
	They're bored.
	They're bored by the amount of money they have and success and then they get scooped up by Satan.
	Yeah.
	And the word on the street now is that...
	It was a satanic that you need a glass position in a certain way.
	It's spiritual, man.
	We're in spiritual problems here.
	Jamie Foxx.
	The word on the street...
	Now, remember Jamie Foxx just...
	He went into coma for three weeks.
	From the COVID shot.
	Well, the word on the street is that Diddy poisoned him Because he has video or pictures of some freak-offs, and Diddy tried to kill him, and then when he came out of it, miraculously, he immediately called the FBI. And that the FBI has the goods from Jamie Foxx.
	I'm just telling you what's on the street.
	What's on the street.
	So I don't know if that's true.
	But it's interesting because our constitutional lawyer, Rob, he is constantly sending me updates about this.
	It's fascinating the way this...
	I mean, there's a lot of legal stuff going back and forth.
	Yeah.
	Diddy's lawyer is trying to get a gag order put on all the media and everything now.
	I mean, it's not over.
	It's not surprising that we don't hear much from the mainstream media, from the M5M about it, because you never know who's wrapped up in it.
	Yeah, well, I'll believe it when I see it.
	I have an update on McDonald's, which was kind of cool.
	Well, it's not really cool.
	We know the McDonald's.
	Now there's 13 more states, and everybody's getting sick from the Quarter Pounder.
	From the onions, literally.
	Yeah, well, so our producer says the Quarter Pounder has been singled out, he believes, because he says it's the only burger that is cooked fresh and not frozen.
	But is it just Trump that they're getting into trouble for?
	It turns out McDonald's has been suing Tyson and Cargill and others for artificially raising the price of beef.
	And these...
	I mean, there's only three companies that do this.
	Tyson, Cargill, and what's the other one?
	I can't remember.
	Who are in charge of beef in America.
	And if you're going to be suing them for price fixing, I can see where you might get in some kind of problem about your product.
	What was that?
	Was that a TV series where...
	Oh, I can't remember what it was now.
	Where a competing...
	It was a house of cards where there was some milkshake shop that was opening up and they were going to short the stock and so they had people go in, buy one of these milkshakes and then they put poison in it themselves so they were puking violently on the opening day of the milkshake shop.
	I don't remember that being in House of Cards.
	JBC is the other one.
	Thank you.
	JBC is the other meat guy.
	So there's something going on there that is bigger than what we're being told.
	Billions.
	Thank you.
	It was on billions.
	That was it.
	Thank you, Karma King.
	So, you know, you got to figure, you got to wonder about these things.
	How do they know it was the onions?
	There's no evidence.
	The onion people are like, yeah, we did.
	It's not onions.
	Are you clicking your pen?
	No, I have a pair of glasses and they closed, the ear things closed, and I tried to open them, but I was doing it with the one hand, so they kept closing and making a noise.
	I mean, there was an episode on this very podcast where you were clipping your nails on the show.
	No, that was an accusation that I denied to this day.
	I was clicking a pin.
	Okay, my memory, I'm sorry, I could be wrong.
	Well, let's at least get these out of the way so we can, because it's the phony baloney event of the decade, which is the Iran-Israel thing.
	Which, by the way, I think we called it, we said, fireworks, it's going to be a nice show in the sky, nothing much is going to happen.
	Is that not exactly what we said?
	Not only exactly, but exactly exactly.
	It is exactly exactly what we said, yes.
	So here's PBS doing the rundown.
	Of course, they don't see any of this, but everything leads to this conclusion.
	So I've got a five-parter here.
	It's kind of interesting.
	It's Iran Rundown 1.
	Tonight, Iran is saying that it might not respond in kind to Israel's first ever open attack on its soil if there's a ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon.
	More than 100 Israeli fighter jets and unmanned drones struck Iranian military targets.
	Iran's state-run news agency said four members of its military were killed.
	The long anticipated retaliatory attack came early Saturday morning.
	The Israeli defense forces said it struck targets where missiles are built and stored.
	Their answer to Iran's missile barrages on Israel in April and earlier this month.
	Those followed the killings of Iranian and Hezbollah leaders which Iran blamed on Israel.
	On state TV, Iran's ruling regime played down the damage.
	Although the country's integrated air defense system successfully tracked and confronted the act of aggression, limited damage has been caused to some places.
	The scope of the attack is being investigated.
	IDF spokesman Daniel Hagari indicated Israeli retaliation was done.
	For now.
	We are focused on the targets of the war in Gaza and Lebanon.
	Iran is the one that continues to push for a wider regional escalation.
	We will know how to choose additional targets and attack them if necessary.
	I love that they're just like, you know, hey man, if you guys back off of Gaza and Lebanon, we're not going to shoot anything back, you know, any more stuff that doesn't land anywhere.
	This is very interesting development.
	This is so fake.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It does feel pretty fake.
	Get close to the good stuff.
	International reaction was swift.
	I wish a speedy recovery to our neighbor Iran and the Iranian government, which was the target of the Israeli aggression last night.
	The Zionist Israeli government wants to light the fuse on a regional conflict.
	I am clear that Israel has the right to defend itself against Iranian aggression.
	I'm equally clear that we need to avoid further regional escalation and urge all sides to show restraint.
	Iran should not respond.
	This afternoon, before flying to Pittsburgh for a campaign event, President Biden echoed that call.
	It looks like they didn't hit anything out of the military targets.
	My hope is this is the end.
	A senior administration official said efforts will soon resume to end the fighting in Lebanon, secure a ceasefire in Gaza, and the return of Israeli hostages still held in Gaza.
	If I can just say something about Biden in that clip, did you see Biden running towards the press corps?
	No.
	Daddy long legs?
	Oh, the other Biden.
	Yes.
	I didn't see it though.
	Okay, the tell is the fake not Joe Biden whose legs are at least five inches longer than the Joe Biden who we don't know where he is.
	Always wears the Ray-Bans.
	There's something with the eyes that is too much of a giveaway, and he's always wearing the Ray-Bans.
	Probably different colored eyes.
	Possibly.
	Because I have seen photos, close-up photos of the different Bidens, and one of them's got blue eyes and one's got brown.
	Yeah, so just so everybody's aware.
	Keep and look out for Daddy Longlegs with the Ray-Bans.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	So here we have somebody, they bring somebody in from the Brookings Institute to do an analysis for us because we're dumb.
	Oh, that'll help.
	Suzanne Maloney is director of the foreign policy program at the Brookings Institution.
	Suzanne, what do you make of this offer from, or overture from Iran that they'll not retaliate if there's a ceasefire in Lebanon and Gaza?
	Well, I think this is consistent with the rhetoric that we've heard from Iran for some time.
	They've tried to posture that they're actually defending the people of Gaza and the people of Lebanon and that they're Hostile activity toward Israel will, in fact, stop if there is a ceasefire.
	I think it's also a face-saving gesture because they're unlikely to respond to what was a fairly complex and sophisticated attack by the Israelis yesterday against Iran.
	Talk a little more about last night, the attack last night.
	Was Israel able to accomplish its goals while at the same time heeding the international calls for restraint?
	Well, I think it was a sort of Goldilocks approach on the part of the Israelis.
	It was big enough to impose some costs and, I think, to have some deterrent impact on Iran's calculus.
	But it was not so big as to create inevitable pressures for escalation and Iranian retaliation, which would put the region in a much wider and much more dangerous war.
	That obviously was the goal of the United States that had been speaking with So we're back to the calculus.
	And this really solidifies the whole Trump's going to come in, make one phone call, Abraham Accords 2, back to China.
	This is ending.
	Yeah, but it won't end until after the election next week.
	No, no, no.
	So here we go.
	Just a couple more.
	Not necessarily short, but there's four.
	Israel appears to have used the airspace of Jordan and Iraq to get to the targets in Iran.
	What does that tell us about Iran's standing among its Arab neighbors?
	Well, the region's reaction has been quite interesting.
	As you noted, two of Iran's neighboring states permitted the Israelis to use their airspace to undertake these attacks.
	Thank you.
	But of course, there were condemnations for many, many regional states as well, including Saudi Arabia, which I think speaks to the fact that no country in the region really wants to see this situation escalate further than it has.
	There's been for many years, Israel and Iran sort of fighting by proxy, the Iranian-sponsored groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis attacking Israel.
	Have we reached a new phase now where these two countries, these two long-time enemies, are going to be attacking each other directly?
	Yes, I think that's exactly where we were.
	As you noted, for about the past decade, there's been a gray zone war between Iran and Israel, often involving proxies or war in third countries such as Syria.
	What we've seen since April is a willingness on the part of the Iranians to strike directly in an attributable fashion against Israel and by Israel to respond directly with attacks on Iran on the Iranian homeland.
	I think this is a much more dangerous phase of the war, although the actions of the past 24 hours may create some some pause on the part of the Iranians to take the next step of escalation.
	Oh, crap.
	They said the exact opposite.
	Making it up as you go along to make it sound as though it's actually something going on besides a scam that everybody sitting in a cafe in Turkey knows this is bullcrap and so do half the good analysts out there.
	This is a theater.
	Where's our dude named Mohammed?
	I would have expected a little note.
	We have a lot of dudes named Mohamed, but the dude named Mohamed, who is Mohamed.
	The OG Mohamed dude named Mohamed.
	He'll come in with some information.
	The guy's good.
	Yeah, he's very good.
	So this is the last one, but this is not PBS. This is the same rundown, a short one, from NPR, and there may be a little discrepant information in here.
	I spoke about this with an official who is briefed on the matter, an official who is not authorized to speak publicly about this, but who told me that there were three waves of Israeli strikes on Iran.
	The first wave of strikes was on Iran's air defenses.
	The second and third waves were on storage and production sites of ballistic missiles and drones.
	This official said that Israel's response was designed as a kind of a quid pro quo After Iran carried out its missile strikes on Israel on October 1st, and also designed in a way that Iran would be able to contain any reaction.
	Israel says that its retaliation against Iran is now over, and Iran indeed is signaling that it's downplaying this.
	Iran's state news agency said Israeli airstrikes caused limited damage.
	It says civilian flights are up and running again in the country.
	It also said two of its soldiers were killed.
	What?
	All the reports from PBS said four soldiers were killed.
	Now this report says two.
	This is bull crap.
	You know, going back to the initial prediction that we said this was theater and it would be fireworks in the sky and calm down everybody, we're not in World War III. I would like to show you the difference between your No Agenda show and the culture war economy.
	And I'd hate to say it, but Scott Ritter is the one who said this.
	The entire Israeli package was based upon Iranian defenses defined by S-300 type capabilities.
	S-300 is a Russian service-to-air missile.
	The Russians just provided the Iranians with a significant number of S-400s.
	Together with sophisticated electronic warfare packages, you're going to jam the Israelis as they come in.
	Backed up by SU-35 fighters.
	Now, here's the thing.
	How many Iranians have been trained on the operation of the S-400?
	I'll give you a quick hint.
	None.
	Who's operating the S-400 on Iranian soil?
	I'll give you another hint.
	The Russians.
	Who's flying the S-35s?
	Not Iranian pilots.
	Russians.
	So now, Israel, to attack Iran, is going to have to go head-to-head with Russia.
	You think Israel wants to do that?
	You think Israel's ready to do that?
	Do you think the United States is willing to let them do that?
	Now, what is Israel going to bomb?
	Are they gonna bomb the nuclear site?
	That's the end of Israel.
	Israel disappears that quick.
	You understand the first Israeli bomb that drops on Iran, over 500 missiles will immediately be fired.
	These are solid rocket fuel missiles.
	You can immediately reload, fire 500 more within 15 minutes.
	That's a thousand missiles impacting every strategic site in Israel within 30 minutes of the first Israeli bomb dropping.
	The Israeli airplane won't even be halfway home before his entire country is destroyed.
	That's going through the mind of Benjamin Netanyahu.
	You wanna know why he didn't order the attack?
	Because he can't order the attack.
	He's got nothing to attack with.
	Iran holds all the cards.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Okay, okay.
	Clip of the day.
	Oh!
	Wow.
	Despite the crappy audio.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	Clip of the day.
	A classic.
	Scott Ritter is one of those guys.
	He's a plant.
	I mean, he's entertaining to listen to, and he does make some interesting points on certain specific shows he keeps showing up on.
	But that's the example right there of what we think is going on, which is backed up by what's going on, and what other people think is going on, which is some sort of op.
	This is a sigh-op to what he just said.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	And now you even have to question, is the FBI showing up at his house?
	Is that part of the PSYOP to make him more legit?
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Well, we always believe in this meta version of everything where what looks like happening is really done for the purposes of drawing attention and not really doing anything.
	Yeah, that has to be.
	It's part of the whole thing.
	He made such a fuss about it.
	How come we never get any of these deals?
	We got no deals.
	We don't know that we're not getting these deals when people do a Rubblizer donation.
	But they're not giving me any info for the deal.
	They just say, here's a Rubblizer donation.
	They want our info.
	Oh, they want the good info.
	We're analysts.
	Consultationists.
	We're doing our analysis and they're listening.
	They are listening in.
	They are listening in.
	And they're going, we've got to do a better job.
	We haven't fooled them on this one.
	We get fooled.
	Oh, let me play.
	I have 18 seconds.
	So Daddy Longlegs sees the press, runs up to the press.
	When's the last time he saw Biden?
	Which, by the way, the real Biden never does.
	He shuffles.
	He can't.
	He'll fall over.
	Then he hops up the big stairs on Air Force One, not the little cargo bay, hops up there, flies over.
	Oh, that's the giveaway right there.
	He hasn't gone up those big stairs for a year or two.
	And this is to apologize for the Native American boarding school fracas.
	Oh, please.
	Do you know what this is about?
	Yeah, it was for the early years of our country, from the 1800s mostly, it took place.
	When we were moving the Indians all over the place, we insisted that they go to American boarding schools to be raised as Americans.
	And so we basically kidnapped most of the Navajos and all these various children of Indians.
	And instead of letting them be homeschooled in a teepee...
	They were pulled out.
	They're the guys, by the way, these are the kids that are running the casinos now.
	And they were raised as white people.
	And we have to apologize because this was unfair to these kids who should have been raised as Indians, as Native Americans.
	So Daddy Longlegs shows up at wherever he was after this little jaunt.
	And this running up to the press, it was unbelievable.
	Like, no, that's not...
	First of all, you see his legs are visibly longer.
	And then he's standing up there and he's got the Ray-Bans on.
	After 150 years, the United States government eventually stopped the program.
	But the federal government has never, never formally apologized.
	For what happened.
	Until today, I formally apologize.
	That's not Joe Biden.
	That is not Joe Biden.
	Listen to that at the end again here.
	Until today, I formally apologize.
	Apologize!
	Whoa, whoa, what are you, easy there, Daddy Long Legs.
	What kind of an apology is yelling?
	Yeah.
	How do you yell an apology?
	I'm sorry!
	I'm going to try it on you.
	It's insincere.
	I'm sorry, John!
	I'm sorry!
	I told you a clip of your nails!
	See, that would sound like you're just being sarcastic.
	Yeah.
	So this guy's no good.
	No.
	Well, I have some Halloween clips if you want to do those, or we can just skip that.
	No, what Halloween clips?
	The disgusting body traders clips.
	You know, I have not listened to these clips, but I feel that this is very out of character for you, because you will not choose art because it's disgusting, yet you feel it's okay to show up with disgusting clips on the show?
	I just use the word disgusting as a trigger.
	Well, I'm triggered.
	What else have you got?
	It's not really disgusting in a true sense.
	It's about collectors that, and I have to say this as an archivist, collectors who have gotten carried away, and it's a couple, a married couple, that they found each other, and this whole story, which is done, it was, I think, NPR, it's one of those things that You know, we ridicule NPR, but every once in a while they do something that is, like, spectacular.
	So you have eight minutes of clips.
	Is that good?
	Well, it's 150, 150, 130.
	It's not that long.
	It is!
	I can count.
	Four, five, six, seven, eight.
	It's eight and a half minutes.
	Are we running out of show?
	We can make as much show as you want.
	I can also do these on the next show after Halloween's over.
	These are good stories.
	This is a good series.
	It's maybe too much.
	Of course, I don't know what your clips are.
	We've got New UK Riots.
	We've got Prison Film Fest.
	I think it's a good story.
	Prison Film Fest.
	The Prison Film Festival is an interesting story because, again, it's California leading the way, even though you wouldn't think so at the beginning of the story, but at the end they finally close it out with, again, California leads the way.
	A maximum security prison north of New York City is hosting a film festival this week.
	As Samantha Max of member station WNYC reports, all the movies are about the criminal justice system.
	All the judges are incarcerated.
	A group of men serving time at the Sing Sing Correctional Facility evaluated five documentaries about policing, prisons, and the courts.
	A formerly incarcerated filmmaker visited the men at Sing Sing and trained them on how to critique movies.
	Tidja Dunstan works for the Marshall Project, which organized the film festival.
	She says she hopes other prisons will hold their own festivals in the future.
	And we just pray that we can continue to do programs like this to show that it can happen, to be honest.
	The event is the first known film festival inside a prison in New York and just the second nationwide.
	The San Quentin Rehabilitation Center in California held its own festival earlier this month.
	So we're training film critics in prison, which makes sense to me.
	Well, they're voting.
	They can do everything else.
	They can transition.
	I mean, why not?
	I think it's perfect.
	By the way...
	Rotten Tomatoes will never be the same.
	Thursday is Halloween, so you can do your gruesome story before the kids go trick-or-treating on Thursday.
	How does that sound?
	That sounds fair to me.
	That sounds fair to me, too.
	So let's go with disgusting.
	No, no.
	Let's do Wegovy.
	Oh, you want it?
	Wow!
	Yeah.
	That's a good twist.
	Good, you twisted me on that one.
	That was a good switcheroo.
	You like it, huh?
	It was very, very slick.
	Switcheroo of the day.
	Yeah, okay, yes.
	Well, I consider this to be a native ad that was, again, PBS is doing these native ads, and here we go with a big promotion of Wagovi.
	Physicians are increasingly using weight loss drugs to treat obesity, diabetes, and other chronic conditions in young people, including children.
	In the last three years, the number of people aged between 12 and 25 using drugs like Wagovi and Ozempic has surged nearly 600%.
	Allie Rogan looks at the high demand for these drugs and the concerns surrounding them.
	Approximately one in five children and adolescents in the U.S. is obese.
	but experts say early intensive treatment can prevent health issues down the line.
	Early last year, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommended the use of medication to treat obesity in children ages 12 and up.
	We spoke to two young women who have been using these medications.
	I had been struggling with my weight, and I had never gotten my period before, and we weren't sure what was up with it.
	And I had taken some labs, and we found out that I had PCOS.
	I think a lot of people think, especially PCOS, that they're stuck, and there isn't options, and they're finding out that this is an option because it has helped me lose almost 90 pounds, and I got my period, and it's helped with my confidence in so many other things.
	and And continuing it, I think, has just shown the effectiveness of it as well.
	Okay, first observation.
	First, PCOS is polycystic ovary syndrome, which is hormonal during the reproductive years is when that takes place.
	But it's interesting that they are only talking about these medicines as Wagovi, where there are many more, the most famous of which would be Ozempic.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	This is an ad for Magovi.
	Yeah, okay.
	By the way, these three clips I have are part of about a 10-minute program of how great it is.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm looking at PCOS. Common condition that affects your hormones.
	It causes irregular menstrual periods, which is what she was complaining of.
	Excess hair growth, acne, and infertility.
	Treatment for PCOS depends on if you wish to become pregnant.
	People with PCOS may be at higher risk for certain health conditions.
	So how do you get it?
	It actually creates...
	Oh, this is interesting.
	And I'm not a doctor, of course.
	But it says that PCOS can actually make you gain weight.
	So they're trying to treat a symptom here and not the actual cause.
	Despite the effectiveness of these drugs, some doctors are concerned about the lack of data available for children using them long-term.
	Dr.
	Melanie Cree is a pediatric endocrinologist at Children's Hospital Colorado, and she treated both Sophie and Autumn.
	Dr.
	Cree, thank you so much for joining us.
	First of all, why are we seeing this increase of children using these medications?
	The reason we're seeing such an increase is that these medications work.
	And our children are really suffering from outcomes from excess weight, ranging from mental health and bullying to the development of serious metabolic disease, such as type 2 diabetes.
	When you're treating patients, what sort of options do you consider before looking at medication?
	This is a script.
	Listen how she reads that script.
	After she says, oh no, you gain weight because you're being bullied.
	No.
	It's very possible that you're being bullied and then you resort to eating.
	This is poor information.
	Even I can see this is not good.
	And our children are really suffering from outcomes from excess weight, ranging from mental health and bullying to the development of serious metabolic disease, such as type 2 diabetes.
	When you're treating patients, what sort of options do you consider before looking at medication?
	So we always look at lifestyle in terms of trying to help a child who's struggling with weight achieve better health.
	And we can look at different aspects of food.
	Are they getting enough fruits and vegetables?
	Cutting down on simple carbohydrates?
	Really cutting liquid calories?
	What can they do to increase their activity?
	Is their neighborhood safe to exercise in?
	Do they have access to facilities or sports?
	Sleep is very important.
	Do they have somewhere quiet to sleep?
	Do they get enough sleep?
	And then obviously mental health is very important and are they stressed or are they living in a difficult social environment?
	And helping align all of these to optimize children's health is something that we do prior to trying any medication.
	Give these kids some steak.
	Give him a ribeye.
	No, you can't.
	You've got to poison him with the food supply that we have.
	No, please.
	RFK Jr., come on in.
	I think they should make him Head of Health and Human Services.
	That's where they should put him.
	Yes.
	He would cause nothing but a headache for everybody, and it would be about time.
	Yeah.
	Here we go.
	What are some of the misconceptions that you've encountered about prescribing these medications and the children who are on them?
	I think the number one misconception is that the individual is failing somehow.
	That somebody has to do these medications if they don't have a strong enough willpower and that they're weak and can't do this on their own.
	And that's just absolutely not true.
	These are chemicals and when you take chemicals And they help you lose weight.
	That means that you've got a problem with the chemicals in your brain that are helping you to regulate how you sense appetite and how you sense fullness.
	The chemicals is counteracting the chemicals, the poisons that you've been getting from the American food supply.
	High fructose corn syrup being one of them.
	Oh, man.
	Which is a chemical.
	It's produced at a refinery.
	It's not even something that's natural.
	It's where they make oil and lubricants.
	It's just unbelievable.
	And it's the way they do it so cavalier.
	Well, you get these chemicals that will counteract the other chemicals, which are already counteracting the natural chemicals that should have been counteracted by the other chemicals.
	What are you doing?
	The troll room correctly said I was very, very bad to say give that kid a steak because we all know that that creates more climate change.
	And I will wrap it up with some climate change.
	Yes, you horrible person.
	Since COP16 is underway in Colombia, United Nations reports climate has become more difficult to save.
	Yes, we're all going to die.
	United Nations reports on climate goals says countries have made no progress.
	How about that?
	The German farmers, however, will be closing the roads and bridges this time for their strike coming up on November 23rd.
	Amongst the report from Oxfam, one of the largest non-governmental organizations, that up to $41 billion in World Bank climate finance is unaccounted for.
	And wouldn't it just be coincidental that I have a clip from Grandma Yellen once again, Janet Yellen, at the IMF and World Bank Jamboree talking about climate finance.
	Confronting climate change, of course, also remains at the top of our agenda.
	The MDBs committed...
	She's talking about MDBs here, that's multilateral development banks.
	Those are basically the IMF and the World Bank, which is your money and my money that they're spending and clearly not keeping track of.
	Confronting climate change, of course, also remains at the top of our agenda.
	The MDB's committed a record high of nearly $75 billion in climate finance to low- and middle-income countries in 2023, a 45% increase from 2021, and they're deploying new tools to help countries respond to crises and increase resilience.
	We will continue to work to make climate finance easier to access and to support additional private capital mobilization at the MDBs and through the Climate and Environment Trust Funds.
	There, we should turn to implementing the recommendations of the recently finalized review of the climate finance architecture that we worked with G20 partners to launch.
	And we've made significant progress putting conflict and fragility, pandemics, and climate change at the core of the MDB's work through the evolution agenda.
	The MDBs have responsibly stretched their balance sheets and pursued innovative financial measures that will enable $200 billion in additional lending capacity over the next 10 years.
	And as of July, the G20 estimates that measures that have already been identified could enable an additional almost 160 billion dollars.
	This nearly 360 billion in total would be an annual increase of over 20% compared to 2023.
	They are ripping us off.
	No kidding.
	And listen to the money.
	And it's, oh, it's available for climate finance infrastructure.
	We are so in the wrong business.
	We should start a climate finance podcast.
	We should have been in a banking business from the get-go.
	Due to climate change.
	I'm going to show myself by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Lots more show to go.
	We do, of course, have John's tip of the day coming up along with some very nice end-of-show mixes.
	We've got Commodores to welcome.
	We have Knights, Dames, title changes, and some groovy meetup reports.
	But first, we'd like to thank the supporters, the producers who came in with the treasure for the show, $50 and above.
	It's not a very long list.
	John, take it away!
	Yes, we start with Ned from Shelby Township, Michigan.
	Another Michigander.
	177-77.
	Nate Thurman in Longview, Washington.
	170-70.
	Another 17 more years guy.
	William Martens in Essex, Ontario, Canada.
	170.
	Parts Unknown is Unknown.
	Anonymous.
	I don't know.
	It's a blank, but it's 133-52.
	Ryan...
	Uh...
	Nado.
	Nado.
	In Bozeman, Montana.
	121-21.
	Ah, there he is.
	Kevin McLaughlin right at the top of the list.
	8008 is the Archduke of Luna.
	Lover of America and boobs.
	Another one is Eric...
	Maki, M-A-K-I in Blairsville, Georgia with 800A. David Kekta.
	Good old David Kekta.
	End of show mixer.
	Got no one coming up.
	Yes, he's in Santa Valley, Arizona, 73.
	Ham radio donation, 73.
	73.
	Ham radio donation is an interesting idea.
	Yes, I like it.
	Michael Elmore, Gastonia, North Carolina, 72-15.
	John Hoiber.
	Hoiber.
	Hoiber!
	Hay Farmer is what that stands for.
	Hay Farmer in Bristol, Tennessee, 71-17.
	Kelly Hubbard.
	Hubbard.
	In her cupboard in Plymouth, Minnesota, that's 60-09.
	Daniel George in Danbury, Connecticut, 60-06.
	Small boobs.
	Mark Hardwick in Aledo, Texas.
	That's 60-06.
	David Weicker.
	You have not done that right once.
	Weicker.
	Weicker.
	That's because there was a congressman that was spelled the same way.
	It was always pronounced Weicker.
	He is Sir by His Grace.
	David Weicker.
	And he is in Jacksonville, Florida with 55-17.
	James Moore in San Pablo, California.
	That's right up the street.
	Uh, 5463.
	Uh, what is he saying here?
	Oh, my last tip was about pens.
	Yeah, we talked about pens.
	No, this pen, the pen I would plug last show is the one you want.
	Surprise, surprise in Yukon, Oklahoma, 5444.
	Jonathan Straub in Roswell, Georgia.
	And he needs a dedouching.
	And he wants to call up Mike Straub as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	And for himself a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	Alexis Robley's in Chula Vista, California, 5272.
	And also Costas in Aldergrove, BC, Canada.
	And he needs a dedouching at 5272.
	You've been dedouched.
	You've been dedouched.
	Sir Mar Santella in Tucson, Arizona, 5150.
	Listen to this.
	Thank you for all you do.
	Please wish my daughter Cassandra Mitzner a happy birthday.
	Her birthday is on Monday the 28th.
	She'll be 34.
	We call Kamala in our household Mamala.
	Translation from Spanish means suck me.
	Do you think that's right?
	I don't know.
	We should look it up because that's what Mamala is.
	What's her name?
	The talk show host of Barrymore Girl.
	Drew Barrymore.
	Drew Barrymore calls her Mamala.
	But I don't know that she knows it means suck me.
	We should have Spanish speakers in the chat room.
	Trolls?
	And let's finish it off with $50 donations while you're waiting for the results of that query.
	To the chat room, Amy Galinas in Burien, Washington.
	Brian Emmenheiser in Lancaster, California.
	Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina.
	Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
	John Taylor in Fluorescent, Colorado.
	Sir Richard Gardner in New York City, I believe.
	Sarah.
	No, it says, sounds like the fine wine.
	Sarah.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, I see that.
	Yes, Sarah.
	Okay.
	Sarah.
	Spelled Sarah, but it says Sarah.
	Stentine.
	Stentine.
	Brentwood, Tennessee.
	Stenline.
	Steinlin.
	Steinlin.
	Steinline.
	There it is.
	Why don't you read these?
	And then last on our list is...
	Worn Out Night in Calexico, California.
	50 bucks, and I'm the Worn Out Night of San Felipe, Baja, California.
	Been a few years, but I'm back!
	I believe my total donation to date is $1,500.33.
	Okay, thank you very much.
	And sorry, I was just trying to help you out there.
	I'm sorry, let me apologize properly.
	I'm sorry!
	I'm sorry, okay?
	I'm sorry!
	Okay, Biden.
	Thank you very much to these supporters of the show.
	Producers, you are all producers.
	And thank you to those who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity.
	Or you're on a sustaining donation, which works.
	It gets you all the way to knighthood and beyond.
	We appreciate it.
	Any amount, any frequency, you make it up.
	And once again, thank you to our Commodores who are about to bring up and have them arrive, and our executive producers, associate executive producers, knights and dames, and everybody else.
	NoagendaDonations.com.
	You've got karma.
	to donations.com.
	So there we have Shira Steinlein celebrating today.
	Sir Marv Santella wishes his daughter Cassandra Mitchner a happy birthday.
	Turns 38 tomorrow.
	Hey, Sir Felix in Australia turns 15 on Tuesday the 29th of November.
	But because he lives in the future, that'll be Monday the 28th for the No Agenda fans.
	That, of course, is from his dad, Sir Chris Wilson, and Dame Kiley.
	Nice to hear from them.
	Ed Lyon wishes his son, Nathan Lyon, a happy one.
	11 years old on October 30th.
	And finally on her birthday list, Sir Cutboard.
	Happy birthday from everybody here.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	It's your birthday, yeah.
	T-t-t-t-t-t-tidal changes.
	Turning faces late.
	Tice changes.
	Don't want to be a douchebag.
	We welcome Sir Tom, who now becomes Surveyor Commodore of the Northern Northwest Lakes.
	I'm not quite sure exactly.
	I think he became a Viscount.
	And Sir Il Pope di Ciclismo, now Baronet.
	Sir Il Pope di Ciclismo.
	And congratulations to both of you for supporting the No Agenda podcast.
	In another $1,000 or more, it is highly appreciated.
	Now it's fine!
	To bring in our most recent list of Commodores.
	This is it, the final ones.
	Quite a list we have.
	We welcome Commodore David Rosa, Commodore Sir Hopscotch, Commodore Sir Billy Bones, Commodore David Get Over It, Lady Get Over It, Commodore Jennifer Hughes, Commodore Tyler, Commodore Craig Allen, Commodore Ryan Jones, Commodore Surveyor, Commodore Greg Clifton,
	Commodore Roger, Commodore Matt the Metal Bend, Commodore Robert Querbeck, Commodore Harris, Commodore Scalin, Commodore Sharkey, Commodore EA, Commodore Q of D.L. Moore, Commodore Zachary Stockstill, Commodore of the South, Commodore Jim Turner,
	Commodore George P. Perdell, Commodore of Nederland, Commodore Keaton Stone, Commodore Dude Name Ben, Commodore Sir P. Rez of FL330, Commodore Sir Cut Board, Commodore Fort and the Trio Fleet, Commodore Meowdison, Dame Meowdison, Commodore Sir Il Pope Di Ciclismo, and Commodore West.
	Arriving.
	Woo!
	Quite a list there.
	A beautiful list.
	And, if that wasn't enough, we've got knights and dames.
	And we have quite a number of knights and a dame.
	So, bring out a sword for the dames.
	Here you go.
	I got the big quite a number sword.
	Jennifer Hughes, Tyler, Craig Allen, Craig Clifton, Aubyn Q, Andrew Perez, and David West, step on up.
	All of you have become Knights and Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I am proud to pronounce the KD as Dame Jen, legal drug dealer of the Cedar Valley.
	Sir Tyler in Alaska, Sir Craig Allen of Gila River.
	Sir Cliffy, Sir Q of the Elmore, Sir P Rez, Commodore FFL 330, and Sir Joe McGillicuddy.
	For you, we've got Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay, along with Eagle Rare Bourbon and 902 Filet Cook Medium Rare IPA in the Club Ferris File.
	Texas Brisket & Beans and Braunschweiger for Smokin' Hot Wife Maggie.
	And, of course, we have the Mutton & Mead lined up for you here, just like the Commodores, and some of you will be Commodores as well.
	Go to NoAgendaRings.com.
	That is where you can find pictures of these beautiful rings.
	And, of course, you can fill out your ring size.
	There's a handy ring size guide there, along with the ring you will receive, your Certificate of Authenticity, and Wax, because there is a signet ring, to seal your important correspondence.
	Congratulations, Dame and Knights and Commodores and new title holders.
	Welcome, once again, to the peerage ladder of the No Agenda Show.
	No Agenda Meetups!
	Yeah, we got a couple of meetup reports.
	The Ottawa meetup is a written report.
	This is from the meetup report themselves.
	Huge success.
	We had 15 people show up.
	This was the first one.
	This meant that there were so many of us that we didn't even all get to talk, so we will definitely be holding another one.
	I hope that this meetup helps the show in some smaller, even bigger way.
	Well, connection is protection.
	It helps everybody.
	A thank you to everyone who came.
	Of course, a thank you for giving us the means to meet up and for all that you and John do.
	Sincerely, the Ottawa Meetup.
	And then, as requested, and they deliver, here's the meetup report from the Porto Portal Meetup in Portugal.
	In the morning, greetings from Portugal, greetings from the Porto Portal.
	This is Sir Atlas Chance, and I pass around the phone.
	Hello, Adam and John.
	This is Deca Fletcher from Porto.
	Cheers.
	We love you guys.
	In the morning from Sir Il Popa de Ciclismo, the only criminal in the meeting.
	No spooks here.
	In the morning, Porto, Portugal from Hong Kong.
	We love you, Alex.
	Yay! Yay!
	Yay!
	Yay! Yay!
	That sounds like a bunch of criminals, actually.
	And it sounds a bit like a Eurovision voting thing.
	It was interesting.
	I'm glad you guys did that.
	Thank you very much.
	Now, there was a big one for our anniversary in London.
	This is the London Meetup Report.
	G'day mateys, it's Campbell from Kent.
	I've got nothing, so happy birthday.
	ITM John and Adam, Sarah here.
	Brian, not Brian of London and not Brian with an eye, thinks I look like Graham Hancock.
	That's weird.
	Hello.
	Oopsy.
	In the morning, John and Adam, and congratulations on 17 more years from Prime, the Black Knight from Royal Wooden Bastards.
	Hi, this is Emma, not raped, from London.
	Whoopsie!
	Happy birthday, no agenda.
	Keep on rocking here in London.
	Hello, everybody.
	Luisa from Brazil.
	Happy birthday!
	Hi, I'm Gustave from Brazil.
	Thanks for your courage.
	In the morning, Adam and John.
	Happy 17th.
	I haven't been with you the whole time.
	Just the last four years, I've been streaming you SATs.
	Where do they go, by the way?
	I never hear mention of them.
	But here's to four more years of streaming you those sweet Satoshis.
	It's Jack of the Golden Runways.
	In the morning, everyone.
	Happy birthday, John and Adam.
	Four more years.
	Not fair.
	Hello John and Adam, this is Sir Arctic Matt from the High Peak saying happy 17th birthday to you guys.
	You may remember me from jingles such as my Sharia law and ISIS in America.
	Take care guys and four more years!
	Hello, we're Malik from The Big Smoke and happy birthday, no agenda.
	Woohoo!
	Woof the Cock here at the London Longest Standing Member Meetup Part 3, and I'm wondering, where is our Viscount of the South East and London?
	Sir Luke, where are you?
	Happy birthday to you!
	Happy birthday to you!
	Happy birthday, Lord and I! Happy birthday to you!
	Woo!
	You know, they say No Agenda Meetups changes your life.
	I think that's proof right there.
	That's a good bunch of people.
	There's a meetup tomorrow, the Land of Waltz meetup in Minneapolis, Minnesota at Punchbowl Social that'll kick off at 5.30 and then if you go to noagendameetups.com you will see there is a slew Just a slew of meetups all the way through November, into December, into January.
	I suggest you go take a look.
	Find a meetup.
	Go to this.
	Connection is protection.
	You will meet children from other lands and you will make relationships that will last forever.
	Some people even hook up.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Triggered on hell's lame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	Everybody feels the same and knows your name.
	It's like a party.
	Are you going to tell me you don't have any ISOs?
	I'm being magnanimous and I'm letting, allowing, because I've been dominating these things.
	I'm giving it to you.
	I'm giving the floor.
	I'm bowing and giving you.
	This is bad.
	This is bad.
	Why is it bad?
	I'm giving you.
	I have one crappy ISO. One no good.
	What?
	I have one.
	I was counting on you.
	Well, then this is the winner.
	He's really, really bad.
	Very, very bad.
	That's not good.
	No, it's very bad.
	It's very, very bad.
	We can't use that.
	Well...
	Dip into the well and pick something out.
	Okay, I'll dip in the well.
	I'm going to scroll all the way down.
	I'm just going to grab something and...
	I am triggered.
	I'm so triggered.
	How about that?
	I love it.
	Okay, then...
	Ow!
	What is that?
	How did that happen?
	That was no good.
	Oh, that was horrible.
	Wow, man.
	That is not how I like to do my transitions.
	I'm so sorry.
	And now, everybody, it's time for your favorite part of the show.
	It is John's Tip of the Day.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam.
	Well, this is a screwy one, but definitely something I need to talk about.
	Okay.
	I'm recommending another product.
	There's a bunch of people that make this product.
	Surprise!
	Another product.
	This is a lid remover type can opener.
	Oh, these are actually quite handy to have around the house.
	I discovered these things in France in the 70s when I was visiting.
	I went to France on one of my trips when I was working for the government.
	I go to France all the time.
	And I bought one there, which I still have, and it still works.
	And this is different than...
	And by the way, I had to wait 20 years to see them in the United States because I think there's a patent or something involved in this.
	But what this thing does, and it's called a smooth edge, it's called a lid remover.
	It's got different titles for what they are.
	You have to be careful.
	A normal can opener cracks the top of the can and you grind around and it rips open the can and gives you a sharp edge thing and cut yourself.
	These lid removers literally reach under the lid and unlatch the entire lid from the can, pull it off, and then you dump the product out and then you can wash the can and put the lid back on it.
	It's like a can.
	It's amazing.
	These things are the absolute best.
	Actually, it takes a little more work to get them, once you get the hang of them, because you have to put it at a certain angle to make it work.
	But do you have one?
	I do not have one.
	I'm thinking I need to get one.
	Oh, I thought you said they're great.
	Well, I've seen old ladies use them.
	Oops, sorry.
	Old ladies don't even know what they are.
	Old ladies use can openers.
	Yeah, it sounds like something I might want to pick up.
	You'd love it.
	The can opener, which just rips off the top, is not anything like these lid removers.
	And what you want is one of these things.
	They're about to say eight, nine bucks maybe.
	Once you get to hang out how to use them, because it does take a little skill, more than a can opener, and they're just dynamite.
	And once you start using them, you go, wow, where has this been all my life?
	So this is basically a better mousetrap.
	Yeah.
	And do you have a brand in mind?
	No.
	There's about 20 guys who make them, and they're pretty much all the same design, and they get underneath the lip, and they unhook the lid from the can, and they pull the whole lid off, and they can be put back on.
	This is an amazing tip of the day.
	Another winner from John C. Devorak.
	It is the tip of the day, everybody.
	You can find it at tipoftheday.net.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam.
	Well, there it is.
	We wind up episode number 17.
	I mean, anniversary number 17, episode 1707, on October 27th.
	Does it get any crazier than that?
	I don't think so.
	Thank you all very much for being here, trolls.
	And, oh, look at this.
	If you just stay with us, like, don't leave your modern podcast app if you're listening to the stream or the troll room.
	Coming up next, we have DH Unplugged number 724.
	Mega Buyers Revealed.
	Is that the one from this past Tuesday?
	Yeah, it must be.
	I haven't heard it yet, so I think I'll stick around and have a listen.
	And you should come back to see what's going to happen as we will have all kinds of disgusting Halloween clips on Thursday and we'll get you all primed and ready for Election Day!
	Oh no, it's all crazy.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm from northern Silicon Valley where I'm still wondering about Snoop Dogg.
	I'm Jesse Dvorak.
	End of show mixes from Nukes3K, David Kekta, and Professor Jay Jones from China.
	Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
	We'll talk to you on Thursday.
	Until then, adios mofosa, hooey, hooey, and such.
	Camala, que mala eres, que mala eres, Camala.
	Camala.
	Ay, que mala.
	Saturday night, got no date, bitch.
	To do the climate change, no promotion at work.
	To do the climate change.
	Taxes and prices going up.
	To do the climate change.
	Rental high, insurance too, bitch.
	To do the climate change, no promotion at work.
	To do the climate change.
	Taxes and prices going up.
	Do the climate change.
	They say it's happening.
	World getting hotter.
	But to me, we looking like frogs in the boiler water.
	Saturday night, got no gas.
	To do the climate change.
	Make the cow looking sparse.
	To do the climate change.
	Taxes and prices going up.
	To do the climate change.
	They say it's all my fault.
	But I can't even change my car's oil at all.
	They say it's happening.
	World getting hotter.
	But to me, we looking like frogs in the boiler water.
	Power outages at home.
	To do the climate change.
	After AC off, I'm still in the zone.
	Green jobs promised, but still ain't shown.
	Meanwhile, my rent just keeps getting blown.
	They say it's happening, world getting hotter.
	But to me, we looking like frogs in the boiler water.
	They talk about the cows and all the med pay.
	My wall is empty and I'm feeling the pain.
	World is saving, sure, that's true.
	But all this government ain't helping me or you.
	They say it's happening, world getting hotter.
	But to me, we looking like frogs in the boiling water.
	Saturday night, gas still hot.
	To do the climate change.
	Working extra shifts, but why?
	To do the climate change.
	Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?
	Yes, I do.
	Yes, I do.
	As important as Trump's fascism is, and is the lead story every day, his cozying up to dictators, his obsession with Hitler that has now come out.
	Either you have the choice of a Donald Trump who will sit in the Oval Office stewing, plotting revenge, retribution, writing out his enemies list.
	One other thing that you'll see next week, Caitlin, is Trump actually reenacting the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939.
	He is killing us.
	Women have died already.
	Very good reporting, by the way, that shouldn't be questioned by idiots.
	Do you think Donald Trump Beep, beep, beep.
	Allow me to sum up this week's news.
	Hitler is back!
	Hitler.
	Hitler is back, everybody!
	How dare you!
	Let me take you back to 1939.
	Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?
	Yes, I do.
	Hitler is back.
	21% of Gen Z Americans think Adolf Hitler had some good ideas.
	Actual American Nazis.
	It's a Nazi rally.
	How dare you?
	Donald Trump has said he would terminate the Constitution of the United States.
	Out, out, out.
	Praising Adolf Hitler, saying Adolf Hitler did some good things.
	Certainly falls into the general definition of fascist.
	It's perfect.
	To celebrate the rise of Nazism.
	That Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler.
	Back home to mommies.
	She goes back home to mommy.
	How is that casting aspersions?
	This is next level QAnon stuff.
	They'll say, you know, Trump supporters have set off a dirty bomb in Philadelphia.
	They're counting on us to help him win.
	They're counting on us to propagate their clips.
	Vow to be a dictator on day one.
	Someone needs to calm her down.
	Hitler did not do some good things.
	Now, okay, you stop it there.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	MoFo.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. I am triggered.

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