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This is your award-winning Kiama Nation Media assassination episode 1674.
This is no agenda.
Yeah, celebrating America.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region #6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where we say heaven, He outright refuses to be with the douches.
Is Ted Nugent not in the Hall of Fame?
I'm John C. DeBorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
In the morning.
That's because Ted Nugent refuses to be in the Hall of Fame.
He outright refuses to be with the douches.
You didn't know that?
Well, I know that he was never invited early on.
No, and that's why.
You know, once ABBA got in, I mean, why would Ted Nugent want to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
Let's be honest.
No, he's just stubborn.
I don't blame him, though.
No, of course not.
Hey, I think we have a determining factor that the economy is not doing well.
Also noticed by many other trolls this morning, remarkably less pre-fireworks going off this year.
Oh yeah, I say that's the case here too, and I will say this.
We have a 3rd of July, the best fireworks display, at least where I am, in the East Bay, is the Richmond 3rd of July fireworks display, which they wisely do the day before the 4th, because on the 4th, I'd say 9 times out of 10, the fog rolls in and ruins it.
It's true.
The two times I was out there for Fourth of July, it was completely socked in.
Didn't you and I go up to some building at one point?
We were above the cloud layer and you could see the fireworks kind of poking through?
Or is that my imagination?
I have done stuff like that.
I can't remember.
Jay was there, I think.
She was like 14 or 15.
Am I crazy?
Well, that's beside the point.
Okay, thanks.
They did the 3rd of July fireworks, which is always a winner because there's no fog, and there's usually a slight breeze, so it's actually a perfect day to do it.
Yeah.
Around here, as you mentioned, it's always fogged in on the 4th.
Always.
It's always on the 4th.
You'll sit, I don't think it's going to be today, tonight, but 9 out of 10 times it socks in.
So I noticed that there was, they didn't have, like last year, they had all these crazy fireworks.
Heart, giant hearts, triple hearts, happy faces.
And my favorite one, which I just, every time I saw it, I said, how did they do that?
A giant cube.
Oh.
Boom, a cube.
It's the damnedest thing.
Boom, a cube.
No, there was no fancy, it was just big bombs, they were big.
Yeah.
Big, you know, the big blossoms, and that was it.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
I thought it was disappointing.
Yeah, well, all I know is that...
Last year and the year before, both years, we were out here in Hill Country.
Hill Country, you can't drive from Austin to Fredericksburg on Route 290 without passing by eight or nine firework sheds that are selling fireworks.
Right, that would be normal in the South.
Very normal.
Very normal.
And I just haven't heard it.
There's been very, I think, Like, maybe three days ago, someone set something off?
Which, of course, is where, in the Hill Country, you play the game.
Fireworks or gunfire?
We're never really sure.
But there was nothing.
Last night, I heard one, like, lady finger.
Ploop.
I mean, okay.
Economy is bad, people.
It's bad!
Got no money to blow it up in the air.
Well, we'll see tonight.
Yeah, I don't know.
Richmond itself, when they have the San Francisco fireworks, the whole town of Richmond and I'd say half of Oakland become homebrew fireworks.
Oh, that's the best.
Homebrew fireworks are the best.
It's just like things are blowing up left and right.
Usually, they're usually done by kind of these block parties led by some guy named Lefty.
In Oakland?
It doesn't matter where.
No, I know, Lefty.
Yeah, I gotcha.
So, I've been collecting a couple of clips about President Biden and, you know, I think the beautiful thing right now, and you cannot tell me we are not in the season of reveal, Now that everyone, everybody... Whatever that means.
Well, Joe Biden is not competent.
Everybody knows that.
I hope, I hope that people also see that the media has been lying all this time.
They're desperately trying to cover that up with all kinds of reporting about other things besides their lies.
No one in the media has called out Jareen for lying about the cheap fakes.
That was the most blatant, obviously.
In fact, and I don't have clips of that, but I even heard, I think on CNN has been the best, especially Jake Tapper.
You know, he's just sitting there saying, well, you know, we saw world leaders trying to kind of huddle themselves around the president at D-Day.
Like, that's what Jareen called a cheap fake and said the media coined that phrase.
It's really, we're in an unbelievable time right now.
I just don't know if anyone cares.
I don't see how it's that different during the COVID era.
Well, no, it's not.
It's not different.
But now we see the lies.
There's a couple of things to note.
For one, they moved the George Stephanopoulos interview to primetime.
Tomorrow, primetime.
No, Sunday.
It was supposed to be Sunday.
Oh, I thought it was Friday.
Did they move it from Friday to Sunday?
Is that what they did?
It was always a Sunday show.
It was his Stephanopoulos weekend thing.
But they took it and moved it to primetime, so I don't know if it's going to be primetime Sunday or when it's going to be.
How much are you going to bet it's going to be edited?
I'm not taking that bet, but I was starting to think about this.
I hate to do this because I tell people that you want to waste a lot of time, do the Google search, Council on Foreign Relations roster.
Yes.
So I went to the S's.
I just wanted to make sure.
I think I already knew that Stepanopoulos was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
So I went to the S's and I just want to read a few of the names as you go through here.
And let's just explain.
Council on Foreign Relations, that's, it is a drinking club, but not like Bilderberg.
Bilderberg is truly a wine and cheese club at this point.
The Council on Foreign Relations is a globalist cabal.
If you're a member, you always have work, and you're expected to perform a certain way.
And I started to notice this, the Council on Foreign Relations, it's all their journalists, all of them, from Tom Friedman, who's in the Council on Foreign Relations, to the rest of them at the New York Times, all these New York Times guys, that have turned on Biden.
Yeah, that's great.
They've all turned on Biden.
I'm going to read some names from the S's, just because it's worth mentioning.
We start with Jeffrey Sachs.
You've heard of him.
Then you go down and down and you hear people like Barbara Christie Samuels II.
I don't know who that is.
Who's that?
Sheryl Sandberg.
Of course.
Lean In.
I mean, oh yeah, she's an obvious expert.
She's the COO of, she was, of Facebook.
Yes.
And so she's obviously an expert on foreign relations, so she should be in the club.
David Sanger, New York Times.
Yes.
David Saperstein.
Anthony Scaramucci.
I forgot that he's on there.
The Mooch.
Now the Mooch worked for Trump for a while, and we did an interview with him for this show.
It's one of the few interviews we do.
And he seemed normal, and then all of a sudden he turned on Trump out of the blue for no good reason.
He was obviously told to.
He got the call.
He's like a hedge fund guy with a restaurant.
I mean, why is he an expert?
And Bitcoin.
And Bitcoin.
Joe Scarborough.
Yeah, obviously.
Is on the list, even though Brzezinski's not, but he's on the list and he's turned on Biden.
Yeah.
Well, he had to.
I mean, he is really a puppet.
I mean, we've seen that over and over again.
And then it ran into this.
I forgot that she's on the list.
Vivian Schiller.
Ah, the old NPR lady.
Yeah, advertising, whatever you want to call it, woman.
Isn't she running?
She's doing something.
She's always got a job because the CFR people always get work.
Oh, she's the CEO of the Aspen Institute.
No, no, no, that can't be.
Hold on a second.
What is she doing?
Let me see.
What is she doing now?
So listen to this.
She was former president, CEO of NPR, former head of news at Twitter, former senior vice president at NBC News, and indeed executive director of Aspen Digital.
She does the podcast for the Aspen Institute.
You're on the lowest rung, Viv.
Going down the list, we have Eric Schmidt, our buddy who used to be the CTO of Sun Microsystems, became the CEO of Google.
Obvious expert on foreign relations.
He is running the drone war, the miniature drone war in Ukraine.
No, he's working it.
Megan J. Smith.
Isn't that Kara Swisher's ex-wife?
Ex-wife, yeah.
Ex-husband, whatever you want to call her.
Google.
Yes, I found that to be weird.
Because, by the way, just for your information, Kara's not on the list.
No.
And neither is Galloway.
And it probably irks them.
That they haven't been invited into the club.
Yeah, it probably does.
How come I'm not on the list?
Yeah, it probably does irk him not to mention it.
Andrew Ross Sorkin.
Oh, yeah.
Well, hello.
He's on CNBC all the time.
Ex-New York Times guy, typical.
George and Jonathan Soros right beneath them.
Yes.
Alex Soros not on the list?
No, George and Jonathan.
Hmm.
Uh, and there's Stepanopoulos, and then I went to the rest of it to find Patty Stones, Stone Cypher, whatever her name is.
She's a Microsoft person.
Hey, go to the G. See if Donald Gregg is still on there.
My uncle.
Let me finish this.
Yeah, I'll do that right now.
Stone Cypher, then Lawrence Summers, we know that, and then John Sununu.
Donald Gregg.
There's a lot of, there's an interesting group of people.
There's a lot of New York Times, a lot of media people, a few actors, lots of gay people.
Yeah, go look up my uncle.
Go look up my uncle.
Gregg.
G-R-E-E.
G-R-E-E double G.
I wonder if he's still in.
I can't.
No, he's not.
No, good.
Good for Uncle Don.
Well, it doesn't mean he's not wanted.
Ah, well.
He wouldn't want to do it anymore.
He's done.
He's tired of them all.
Well, he probably can't, you know.
Anyway, let's go to Stephanopoulos.
So let me finish my thought, which is that since the Council on Foreign Relations, which includes these people we mentioned, there's tons of others.
Chelsea Clinton, for example.
Oh yeah, because she knows everything.
They've all turned on Biden.
What's to make us think that This interview that they moved to primetime isn't a setup.
I think that is exactly what the point is.
I've been tracking ABC.
I have two clips from them and they are starting to open the gap.
And leaving it wide open to kick the old man through.
In the first stunning indication that President Biden is seriously considering his next step.
Sources tell ABC News Biden told at least two people his next few public appearances are critical to determining whether he can stay in the race.
They say the president is keeping an open mind about his path forward, saying he knows he has to perform well on his upcoming campaign stops as well as His Friday interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos to change public perception.
See, they're just saying Friday, so I have a feeling they're not going to wait until Sunday, John.
They're going to do it Friday primetime, when everybody's not looking.
Well, the deal was this was for his Sunday show, and they were going to record it on Friday, which gives them the two days to edit it.
Yes, to get the AI in.
But if they're going in the opposite direction... No, they're going to tank him.
It's obvious.
They're going to tank him.
The president is clear-eyed, and he is staying in the race.
perception.
Separately, the New York Times first reported that Biden is weighing whether to continue his reelection bid, a claim the White House quickly rejected.
The president is clear eyed and he is staying in the race.
The president's widely panned debate performance last week left his campaign scrambling to stave off mounting concerns about his mental fitness.
Today, Biden speaking to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for the first time since the debate, according to a top White House aide just one day after he spoke to House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries.
He has done this outreach.
He's having these conversations.
It is important to him.
With just four months until Election Day, many Democrats now torn between backing the president or rallying behind a new candidate.
Texas Democratic Representative Lloyd Doggett on CNN becoming the first to break rings.
I just feel that it's time for him to step aside if we were to be able to protect what he allowed us to gain in 2020, which was a victory for democracy.
Yeah.
Sources say Vice President Harris cut her vacation short and flew back to Washington to attend a lunch with the president.
And tonight, Biden also meeting privately with Democratic governors as concerns reach a critical point.
Yeah, so this was interesting.
The governors all went to the White House.
I think there were eight or nine of them.
Only three came out!
At the White House tonight, 25 Democratic governors met with President Biden.
Three of them emerging, including Governor Hochul, with a message of support from the group.
I'm here to tell you today, President Joe Biden is in it to win it.
The president has always had our backs.
We're going to have his back as well.
What we saw in there today was a guy who is the guy that all of us believed in the first time who could beat Donald Trump and did beat Donald Trump.
The Biden administration hastily called the meeting of Democratic governors.
By the way, this was inside the White House, and you hear the band playing, and they do this long shot of Biden walking up the aisle.
It was so, so sad they did this, because you know how he walks, right?
Yeah, he walks with... A bad gait.
He has a bad gait.
He has like a gait of someone with Parkinson's.
The Biden administration hastily called the meeting of Democratic governors as it struggles to contain the damage after the president's performance on the debate stage last Thursday.
Today he appeared on two radio shows and explained his problem was that he had a cold, had jet lag, and had been over prepared with statistics.
Now listen to this.
So he did two really obscure, well one was a network, but black, two black radio shows because that's, you know, if we can still trick the black people, we're good to go.
Failing to connect with the American people.
CNN aired a part of one of those interviews tonight.
I had a bad night.
And the fact of the matter is that, you know, I screwed up.
I made a mistake.
Now listen to this, where he's reading the script, because no one would say it this way, but of course he's reading a script.
That's 90 minutes on stage.
Look at what I've done in 3.5 years.
You would have said three and a half years, don't you think?
Instead of 3.5.
You could just see the script there on paper.
3.5 years.
Oh yeah, that's a great catch.
Nobody says 3.5 when he's talking about three and a half.
If you're just casually conversing, you might write 3.5.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is what was there if you're reading it, you'd read 3.5, but yes.
That's 90 minutes on stage.
Look at what I've done in 3.5 years.
Still sources tell ABC News the president has privately acknowledged the next few days will be critical, telling an ally that while he still views himself as the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump, he's keeping, quote, an open mind about the path forward.
These people are now being mean.
Look, we know the top of his head was off twice, but you don't have to, like, you know, Pointed out to everybody that his mind is open.
From his press secretary, though.
The official line is defiance.
He is staying in the race.
I don't have anything else beyond that.
He is staying, he is staying in the race.
Defiance.
It says the official line is defiance.
Using the word defiance.
She didn't say that.
She just said you're staying in the race.
No, she did.
I'm talking about the media.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
That the official line is defiance and there's no official line that even includes the word or even sounds like defiance.
Defiance is one of those negative words, a loaded word, that the media loves to use when they're slanting a story.
It means something's wrong with you.
You're defiant.
I'm just defiant.
You're not making sense.
That's a great clip.
From his press secretary, though, the official line is defiance.
He is staying in the race.
I don't have anything else beyond that.
He is staying.
He's staying in the race.
It's notable that of the 25 Democratic governors who participated in tonight's meeting, only three emerged to publicly back the president.
The most mentioned Biden replacement, Gavin Newsom of California, Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, J.B.
Pritzker of Illinois.
All of them avoided the cameras tonight.
Only two of them releasing written statements supporting Biden.
Yeah, they were sharpening the knives.
They had no time.
I'd like to know what the Democrats are thinking to include Pritzker.
No, no, no, no.
I'll get to that.
But none of these people are ever going to be president.
No, I'm understanding that.
It's going to either be Harris or nobody.
Yes, that's my point.
We need a horse race.
We need to get everybody engaged.
This is for television ratings, nothing else.
Well, how is that getting ratings using Pritzker?
Because the guy's fun to look at with that big fat head.
They always do the big close-up.
And the transsexual brother.
Oh yeah, that's right.
That's the main thing.
Anyway, the pressure's on according to Kristen Wilker of NBC Today.
This is just an unprecedented moment with the president frankly facing more pressure by the day.
They say they defended President Biden over concerns about his age, but things clearly changed since the debate.
There's just been a wave of panic within the party based on my conversations, and it is significant that those cracks are starting to emerge that you just saw Gabe map out.
But the question is, will the pressure be enough for the president to step aside?
Here's what I'm looking for, Craig.
What happens to polling in the coming days and weeks?
Do donors start to Oh, that will be a game- let's see what the Biden administration- this is so good!
air their concerns publicly if a top democrat for example starts to come out and call for the president to drop out of the race that's a game changer that's when the floodgates really open oh that will be a game let's see what the biden administration wow this is so good i mean pay attention to this because you're not going to hear this kind of stuff often in your life considering the four-year cycle This is really, particularly from a, you know, this is a Democrat.
You know, the media is, is Democrat.
They are, they're all left-leaning, borderline Marxist.
They're all authoritarian.
They love just, you know, Just getting mad at the right and the far right and the GOP and the conservatives and the fascists.
Yes, the Nazis.
This is something to behold.
This is really a beautiful moment.
I hope we have four more years of this.
We're facing doubts from within his party and new polling that shows the president falling further behind former President Trump.
Today, candidate Biden telling his team, no one is pushing me out.
The president and vice president held a conference call with campaign staff.
Officials say he was direct, saying to aides, let me say this as clearly as I possibly can, as simply and straightforward as I can.
I am running.
I'm running.
Nearly a week after the debate that the White House labels a bad night, the president called key congressional Democrats, officials here acknowledging the strain.
That the last few days have been challenging.
With more troubling signs in new polling, done after the debate.
President Biden now trailing former President Trump by six points.
Have you, let's go on LinkedIn and see if a Jareen Kabul Abdar, if her resume is out there yet.
She's got to be, she's got, hey, Linda Liu!
Open, it would be open for work.
Entertaining offers.
80% of those surveyed said they consider the president too old to run again.
The White House says the president is now feeling great after citing a cold on debate night.
The president told donors Tuesday evening that he had jet lag, too, though the debate was 12 days after his return from Europe.
The president said that this is not an excuse, but an explanation.
So, of course, they went to the piggy bank, turned it upside down.
Wait, stop.
That's another fine piece of wordage.
Oh yes.
It's not an excuse.
It's an explanation.
That is dynamite.
It's quite good.
Honey, I did not cheat.
I'm not making an excuse.
I'm just making an explanation.
That didn't quite come out right.
No, that was no good.
No, that was no good.
Anyway.
But you could structure it that way.
Yeah.
So they broke the piggy bank, took out the last pennies.
Let's do one more ad everybody, we can convince him.
Did you see Trump last night?
I mean it sincerely, most lies told in a single debate.
He lied about the great economy he created.
He lied about the pandemic he bought.
And then, his biggest lie, he lied about how he had nothing to do with the insurrection of January 6th.
We all saw it with our own eyes!
We're gonna walk down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you.
We saw police being attacked.
The Capitol being ransacked.
Ransacked!
There's not a single thing to stop it.
Nothing.
Folks, I know I'm not a young man.
But I know how to do this job.
I know right from wrong.
I know how to tell the truth.
I know like millions of Americans know, when you get knocked down, you get back up!
I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message.
Yo, that's really amazing piece of editing.
That ending there, you could just put Hitler in there.
I know what to do!
I know how to tell the truth!
I know like millions of Americans know, when you get knocked down, you get back up!
I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message.
You know?
That really could have been a... Hitler.
Hitler ad, yeah.
So here's... I just want everybody to hear a big loser.
If you want to hear a loser... Now, a guy who, granted, is trying to do the right thing, but he didn't read the tea leaves.
This is the biggest loser of the year.
This is the Governor of Colorado.
Some polls out, Governor, this week show that 70% of Americans that we're still concerned about His age.
And they say, people like you, Governor Polis will say as sharp as ever, there's no issues.
But they have eyes, they have ears, they see him stumbles during a speech, they listen to him mispronounce words from time to time.
What do you say to that voter?
Let's go back to 2014, Biden.
Well, I hear what Governor Polis is saying, but I also can see and hear myself.
Well, first of all, I don't know if many American people know what the president himself is very open about, that he's had a stuttering problem since he was a young man.
So, I mean, if you look at him talking during his Senate career decades ago.
No.
Let's go back to 2014, Biden.
Let's see if he was stuttering then.
I aspire for one of my grandchildren to become wealthy, so when they put me in the home, I'll get a window with a view.
You know, I mean, right now, as I pointed out, it was embarrassing.
Bernie Sanders' net worth is more than mine.
I have less money than a socialist.
I don't know what the hell happened to me.
You know what I mean?
And I've been doing this for 44 years.
I mean, you think I'm kidding.
I'm not kidding, unfortunately.
No, he had no stutter problem.
That's a lie.
The stutter thing is a lie.
He's always had issues around articulation that he's dealt with.
No, no.
No, we just heard this.
On this show over the last 17 years we have done, because it started during our show when he started to sound drunk.
Yeah!
And we even had a theme for it because we play a Biden clip when he was vice president and onward called Drunk or Not Drunk specifically for his clips.
Yes!
Onward.
Part of his personal narrative, he talks about how he overcame speech disability to become the leader.
Speech disability!
That he is today.
I also think it can't really be an election issue when the likely nominee on the other side is basically just as old and probably in worse health.
Worse health!
How can this be an election issue when the comparable candidate, the likely nominee of the Republican Party, not only is of the same age but also is obese, is not as healthy, doesn't exercise as much.
All right, loser.
This guy wasn't read in.
No, that's what I'm saying.
He's a loser.
He's out.
He's not even going to be the governor of Colorado for long.
There's no way.
Wrong script, pal.
So now we get into the pivot here that we all have heard.
We need to start it off with Van Jones on CNN.
Van Jones, not a dummy.
Bezos gave him $100 million to give away as he saw fit for his non-profit, so I'm sure some of that went into the campaign.
But, you know, where's he going to put the money now?
He even drops a little K-word in here.
Look, I'm just going to be honest.
I mean, everybody comes on.
Well, that's refreshing, Van.
be honest for once look i i'm just going to be honest i mean everybody comes on the air and says all this great stuff but behind the scenes it's a full-scale panic um people are uh passing around legal memos pds are flying back and forth on whatsapp trying to figure out what are the options how can you replace biden how do you get him to do it in a way where he feels respected as he should be respected who should kamla harris's uh vice president be the conversation on air and the conversation
whoa i mean he just drops that in like a lead balloon like you know uh we got pdfs flying back and forth on whatsapp we got legal briefs who should kamala's vice president be Hello, Van.
They are completely different.
And so it's the same thing you saw with the Trump situation, where people would come on air and defend Trump.
And then you talk to people, and we've got a crazy candidate.
We don't have a crazy candidate.
We have a great candidate.
We have a beautiful man.
We have someone who loves this country.
We have someone who has given his all.
I mean, his all to the last drop for this country.
But he may not be able to get across the finish line.
And a mature party has to take that into account.
And that is what's happening.
And so, look, I understand people want to defend him and protect him and give him their space and their dignity to make his own choice.
But there is a big conversation happening right now about how this happens, not whether.
You know, it's actually kind of interesting.
He says something in here that, you know, it could have been code, it's not, but I want to explain it.
Let me see if it's here.
Passing around legal memos, PDFs are flying back and forth.
I didn't say it right.
Never mind.
So that's Van Jones basically saying, it's going to be Kamala, we're looking at all the legal ramifications, all different angles.
Van Jones has money, so he's a big man on campus.
Now if you really want to know what's going to happen, we need to go to the source, to the real, one of the people with the real big money.
It's not the biggest, but probably the most visible, who doesn't speak much, and he was at the Aspen Ideas Festival!
This is the, um, this is the, the fest out there where all the nerds go and hang out.
I mean, the rich ones, the billionaires.
Yeah.
We're going to change the world with AI and technology.
And I'm sure that that's where a lot of these PDF files were flying around.
Yeah.
What was this?
The P why, why does he have to use PDF?
Well, the, in, in, why does he say that?
Why did you say files are flat?
You know, documents are flying around.
It doesn't make, let me say this.
In slang on social media... Now, he didn't say it.
He said PDFs.
If you say PDF files, that is actually code for pedophiles.
PDF files.
Because, you know, you don't want to get deplatformed, so you use code.
What?
Yeah, you didn't know that, did you?
I did not.
You got me on that one.
Yeah, Mo taught me that one.
PDF files.
People say, hey, the PDF files.
So, for Black Van Jones, he didn't say PDF file, so I don't think it was any coded message.
They're probably actually sending legal memos around because, listen to this, Ari Emanuel, of course, brother of Rahm, but Rahm is, you know, he's ambassador somewhere now.
But Ari, Ari, I mean, he is a big man on campus.
Ari controls a lot, he's in charge of Hollywood.
He's in charge of Hollywood.
Yeah, he and Katzenberg are really in charge of Hollywood so they control and there's a lot of money attracted to Hollywood who like to hang out with the stars so Ari is going to lay it out and he's very clear and I think this is the true deconstruction of what it is, what's going on, and where it's headed without a doubt.
We're looking at a man who's saying the other guy's a liar, and he's telling us malarkey.
His people are telling us malarkey.
But we're in a very bad problem.
He is not the candidate anymore.
I mean, if you all remember, there's a legal issue now.
He was gonna get kicked off the ballot in Ohio.
They elected him the candidate.
So you no longer can remove him.
In three swing states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, there's only one Democratic Congress.
Michigan.
They have to vote to remove him.
I don't believe the Republican Party in Pennsylvania and in Wisconsin are going to do that.
And if they do, it's then Kamala Harris.
We don't have... This is legal.
So lawyers have to look at this.
Everybody says, we'll get rid of him.
Brokered convention.
No.
Now maybe the delegates, there's some question whether the delegates can do something and I promised myself I wasn't going to swear.
So we're in a, this is a pickle.
You know, the lifeblood to, and I have a brother who's a politician, he's an ambassador, as I said, the lifeblood to a campaign, in politics, the lifeblood is money.
And maybe the only way this gets, with smart lawyers looking at it, is if the money starts drying up.
I mean, I'm assuming all of you have gotten a lot of calls, I've gotten a lot of calls, we've all sat there.
Well, I was going to say, what happens now?
But if this is, as Biden says, the fight for our democracy, and he talks about the soldiers, man, he gave us a bunch of malarkey.
And I'm really pissed.
And we all should be really pissed.
And what does this do to Jeffrey Katzenberg's fundraising?
Well, you know, Jeffrey, I mean, you're going to know in the next couple, you're going to see polling, you're going to see in the next couple weeks if the money comes in.
I talked to a bunch of big donors and they're moving all their money to Congress and the Senate.
I mean, I cannot believe we're in this situation.
Well, as one of the great disruptors in your career.
I mean, do we have to sit by and sleep?
It's a legal issue now.
Yeah.
You're not in.
I'm going to resign, you know, unless the lawyers tell you something else.
And maybe there's some wiggle room.
I haven't seen it.
And I'm not a lawyer.
We're in fuck city.
There you go.
So that's clear for everybody.
They can't get out of it.
Kamala is going to be the candidate if and when Joe Withdraws, drops out, drops dead.
And I think you and I have seen, wow, what a coincidence having that Vogue article come out.
You know, the day after the debate, or two days after the debate, with Jill Biden on the cover.
They never had Melania on the cover, by the way.
An actual supermodel.
An actual supermodel.
No, don't have her on the cover.
And she's talking about, oh, you want to see what power's like?
Power's like when you step off of the plane and you can whisk around town through the red lights.
It's awesome.
Do you think people are underestimating Kamala Harris?
Jill.
So they're not going to give up.
That doesn't seem like it, but something will give because there's just too much pressure.
Here's Wall Street's take.
Do you think people are underestimating Kamala Harris?
It's almost become a joke.
Do you think she can win?
Oh, absolutely.
Look, you know, Kamala Harris has three advantages.
One, she'll be totally underestimated.
In politics, having low expectations is one of the greatest advantages you could have.
Secondly, she gets all the Biden-Harris money, which is not able to be transferred to any other candidate.
So she gets the war chest.
She'll be very well funded.
Third, look at her approval rating with Democrats. 84%.
She's much more popular than the President with young voters.
She's very popular with black voters.
And she'll help drive women, turnout by women.
I think people will totally underestimate the Vice President.
I'd put my money on her.
Yeah, put my money on her.
So, of course, Kamala... This is like worse than a bad novel.
This is great.
I think that Kamala Harris, the blowjob artist from the Bay Area, has managed to get all the way to the presidency.
This is like that novel by Jerzy Kosinski, I think is his last name, I can't remember anymore, Being There, which became a movie about Chauncey Gardner, who was a gardener, I don't know if you remember that story, but this is what this looks like to me.
Some woman who was just kind of a character, to say the least, just all of a sudden she's President of the United States?
Really?
I don't think so.
How does that movie end?
I don't remember how it ends.
What is Brunetti doing?
Is he directing this?
Is he producing this charade?
It's totally possible.
He wishes.
Yeah.
So, because Kamala has to step up now, you know, and she's gotta make sure, look, the one thing we all know, she's black!
She's black.
She's the first black vice president.
First black female vice president.
Of course, she's as black as Barack Obama was black, when you're talking about black America.
She has brown skin, but she's Jamaican, she's Canadian, and she's Indian.
Brahmin.
Yeah, she's a Brahmin.
So, what do you do?
Well, you go talk black on the BET Awards.
You get on with your girlfriend.
Your girlfriend, yeah, you know, with Taraji.
So what's on your mind?
Oh, Madam VP Harris, I'm worried about the election.
Have you seen this, uh, this particular clip?
This, uh...
So it's one of those things they roll in on the BET Awards, and Taraji's in her dressing room, and she's on FaceTime with Madam VP.
And she's like, oh, Madam VP, I'm so worried.
And Madam VP is in her office with some important-looking paper, you know, and a pen, and one of these folders, like she's about to sign some important legislation.
And she's taking a break here, taking a break to talk to her pal, Taraji.
Taraji's an actress.
Yeah, girl.
Yeah, girl.
I'm out here in these streets!
I'm out here in these streets, girl!
That's right!
on the line.
Our basic freedoms are being tested, Madam BP.
I know you've been traveling across the country.
What are you hearing?
Yeah, girl, I'm out here in these streets.
Yeah, girl, I'm out here in these streets.
I'm out here in these streets, girl.
That's right.
I'm seeing it.
What are you hearing?
Yeah, girl, I'm out here in these streets.
And let me tell you, you're right, Taraji.
There is so much at stake in this moment.
The majority of us believe in freedom and equality.
But these extremists, as they say, they're not like us.
As they say, they're not like us, John.
How you talk now?
They're not like us.
This is worse than Hillary's hot sauce.
That nasal, condescending nasal... She's got a screwy voice that does not appeal to anybody.
It's insincere.
It's super nasally.
Actually, somebody defined it as a Berkeley accent.
Yeah, that's a good point.
And it's just annoying when she ran for president against the field.
She's one of the first to drop out because no Democrats liked her at all.
But now all of a sudden, according to the clip you just played a couple clips ago, 82% of all the Democrats love her.
Love her?
Please.
Now, okay, we'll get to some analysis in a moment.
I just want to play the rest of this code switch.
I'm doing a show with Mo pretty soon.
We have to get a show out.
Because this, you know, this street talk all of a sudden, now she's doing, oh I can talk, I can talk like, and black America does talk like this.
That's fine.
But you not that lady!
But these extremists, as they say, they not like us.
No, they not.
There's a full on attack on our fundamental freedoms.
The freedom to vote.
Yep.
The freedom to love who you love, the freedom to be safe from gun violence, the freedom for a woman.
The freedom to be safe from gun violence is just the best freedom the Founders ever came up with.
I declare we shall be free from gun violence!
After we kick the British's butt.
To make decisions about her own body, not having her government tell her what to do.
Oh, you mean like get the shot?
You mean like a VAX mandate?
Yep.
Away pride.
Plan B.
Oh wait, now they've got the P's here.
See, they've got the four P's.
You gotta check it out.
And Planned Parenthood not having her government tell her what to do.
They out here trying to take away Pride, Plan B, and Planned Parenthood, but protecting pistols.
So we taking away Pride, Plan B, Planned Parenthood, but they protecting pistols.
A lot of P's in there.
If you ask me, they pushing the wrong P's.
They want to turn back the clock on our hard-fought progress.
Now I know why the caged bird sings.
Well, what can we do?
We will do what we have always done.
Well, we're gonna cheat!
Fight for our freedoms.
But here's the thing.
We cannot fight alone.
We need to get our families, our friends, co-workers, cousins, play cousins, aunties and uncles.
Get all of them to register to vote.
Again, aunties and uncles, cousins and play cousins.
It's just so, so... I can't wait to talk to Mo about it.
It's pandering.
It's called pandering.
Yeah.
And it's very identifiable.
Anyone who listens to stuff like this can recognize it.
You have to be an idiot not to.
I talked to Mo for hours on end doing the podcast.
I don't start talking, like, yo, Mo, like, Dan, like that, man.
Like, I don't talk like that.
Now, if you want to hear someone who's really unhinged, I just, I love, I love... She really collected a good collection here.
Yeah, thank you.
Well, I had help.
The Jones brothers are in there as well.
Here's Joy Reid.
Joy Reid on the street now because, you know, she didn't have a, she seems to be on MSNBC 14 hours a day, but it wasn't enough.
No, we've got to do a little, we're going to do a live.
Y'all just tell me who the nominee is going to be.
Let me know when you guys are finished fighting amongst yourselves who I gotta vote for in November to keep Hitler out the White House.
That's all I want to know.
Who I gotta vote for to keep Hitler out the White House.
Y'all do your thing, play in traffic all you want in front of these Republicans, acting a fool in front of these people instead of privately declaring your stuff.
But don't text me no more, because I'm not taking no more of these texts.
Just let me know when you guys are finished figuring it out, Democrats, because I know y'all the freak out people.
Go ahead and freak out, have your conversation, and then let me know who I gotta vote for to keep Hitler out the White House.
That's it, I'm done.
Oh, and by the way, if it's Biden in a coma, I'mma vote for Biden in a coma.
I don't even really particularly like the guy.
A lot of his policies, don't like him.
He's not Donald Trump, right?
Yeah.
Hitler, White House.
We keeping them out.
Keeping Project 2025 out.
That's all I care about.
Up and down the ballot.
From the Rooter to the Tutor.
School board all the way up to White House and everything in between.
Governors, members of Congress.
I'm just going to vote all the way down to keep these people out.
The Project 2025 thing is the whole Republican Party.
At this point, it's not about Biden.
It is not about him.
It's above me now.
There's a Best Western next door.
It is about keeping Donald Trump and his Project 2025 friends out of power.
Now, I thought this clip was interesting because that is the entire mission of the Democrat Party.
You will not hear anyone say Hey, you know, we've really, we've got a weak economy.
It looks strong, but people are hungry.
We have problems with inflation.
You know, Nvidia's propping up the whole stock market.
We have two wars going on.
Israel's about to pick a fight with Hezbollah.
You know, when does it go to Iran?
No, none of that.
These people don't care about America at all.
All they care about is Rudra to the Tudor.
All they care about is not getting Trump in, that Trump does not become president.
That's all they care about.
And the new talking point is back to that tired old Project 2025, which is from the Heritage Foundation.
We went through it.
It's not all that crazy.
It's not like, you know, we're going to be lynching people.
Let's stop for a second and take stock.
Reflect on this Joy Reed.
She's on TikTok doing these things.
This is ruining her brand.
What brand?
She has a brand.
It's on CNN or MSNBC.
No, MSNBC.
I never remember which of the two, but same thing.
And she's scripted.
She's made up to the tens.
She looks good on that show.
She's got a good script to read and she's got a pitch that's not bad for that side of the argument.
She comes on here and she's got no makeup on.
She's bald as a billiard.
She's ugly.
She's an ugly, ugly woman.
And she's lecturing you.
She's in a condescending manner that they would never allow on television.
Her producers would call her out for that.
She's condescending enough on television, but not like these TikTok videos.
And it's annoying.
And I think she's going to end up losing her job.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen anybody do is these videos.
I will cry.
And she's, by the way, way too close to the camera.
It's like, holy, you scare the crap out of kids.
It's just terrible, terrible.
Well, we don't want that to happen, John, because we still have four more years to go.
We need Joy Reid for the comedic element of the show.
But the point being that the talking point is we don't want Trump in.
And with the Evil Project 2025, which is, it's just not all that evil.
It's like, okay, so they're pro-life.
Okay.
Gee, how incredibly evil.
It's not all that evil.
You know, it's a plan for America.
And, you know, we've discussed it on the show.
But it doesn't mean anything.
This is just another one of those things.
It's like, Contract with America.
It's just a variation of that, which was done by Newt Gingrich back in the olden days.
Yeah.
But, you know, I think because it's Project 2025, it's somehow it's contrasting the 1619 project, that hoax, which completely rewrote American history.
Like, we're just slave owners.
Someone posted today, It was a retweet on podcastindex.social, which I try to keep politics out of that group.
I actually just blocked the person who was retweeted and went away from the timeline.
It was like, you know, we declared these truths to be self-evident, inalienable rights.
Now excuse me while I go and rape my slave.
It's like, what are you people doing?
It's disgusting.
It really is.
It pisses me off when people do that.
Anyway, there's only one thing that could spoil this all, even though you and I and many people who have written us all agree that the evidence for Biden's ailment is more Parkinson's than anything.
Yes, which I got into back and forth with a number of people because he doesn't have the tremors.
And I keep getting corrected that it's not necessarily tremors.
Not all Parkinson's results in tremors.
That's right.
But that gait, in particular, is Parkinson's.
And the dementia.
So, but in the uninformed electorate, people say, oh, he's got Alzheimer's.
So, let's just say that's what people believe.
It doesn't matter if they're correct or not.
This could be the saving grace!
People living with Alzheimer's have a new medication option.
The FDA approved a monoclonal antibody designed to slow the early stages of the disease by helping remove plaque in the brain.
The Eli Lilly drug will be sold under the name Kosula.
About 7 million Americans 65 years and older live with Alzheimer's.
Okay.
I have a better version of that.
Can I just say one thing about this?
Eli Lilly, hello, you need to talk to the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group about your name?
Oh, the name is terrible.
It should be called Joe Zempick, obviously.
The Curry-Dvorak joke consultants.
Now, that report's not as good as the NTD one, which is the Alzheimer's drug, because there's a little phrase in there that they left in by having the doctor come on and talk about it, and that phrase just floored me.
On Tuesday, the Food and Drug Administration approved Eli Lilly's Alzheimer's medication, the Nanamabdenobab.
The new treatment is designed to slow the progression of early stages of Alzheimer's disease.
Neurologist Richard Isaacson says this is good news.
Good news!
What this drug shows us is that the earlier we intervene, the better the patient will do.
We can have slowing by 35%.
That buys a lot of time and that's very exciting.
The drug will also be used to treat patients with mild cognitive impairment and the mild dementia stage of Alzheimer's disease.
In June, a panel of independent FDA advisors agreed Doonana Monobab was safe and effective.
It will be sold under the name Kissuna and cost $695 a vial before insurance.
You're dead!
Safe and effective.
Safe and effective.
To wrap this segment up, someone alerted me or pointed this little segment out from our show.
This is from episode, what was it, 1446.
It's 1446.
When was this?
This is, let me see.
I think it's April 28, 2022.
I'm going to double down on this.
We have about five more months until the election.
A lot can happen.
A lot can happen in the stock market.
A lot can happen in the economy.
A lot can happen on the global stage with wars.
I'm particularly looking at what's happening now with Hezbollah.
You know, we killed one of their top guys.
That's never something people take lightly.
Let's go back for a second and listen to what my prediction It does!
And I'm going to make a prediction, it'll be very similar to my prediction that I made in 2015.
By the time 2024 rolls around, it is my belief, and my sincere belief, or I could say I do believe, that people, even people on the left, will be begging for Trump.
They'll be begging for him to come back and fix it.
That's my prediction.
You can write it down.
That's a pretty wild one.
I'm doubling down on it!
I don't see anybody begging him, but I think they're getting him in.
There's no doubt about that.
I want to make a... I have to bring in something Mimi brought up.
About Biden.
And that is... It's two points she made.
One is about the dogs.
His dogs.
And of course, being kennel owners, we know about dog behavior.
He had two dogs, two German Shepherds, that bit Secret Service guys.
They were biters.
Multiple times, multiple times.
Multiple biters.
She says that if you're in a household where you're protecting somebody because he's sick, that bite, and you're overdoing it, it creates an anxiety in the room.
That the dogs sense, and they pick up on, and they become extremely protective.
Oh, that's good.
And so they start biting people, just random people that are supposed to be on, you know.
Yeah, especially people who are close to the President, trying to, you know, do their Secret Service duty.
So that is an interesting point I liked.
But the other one, which was a sicker point, and it's more of a point that women can come to, is that We know if we really look back on it, Joe Biden throughout his career was a prick.
He would shoot people out, he'd poke them in the chest.
He was in an A-hole, and we know this with that poor woman who accused him of sexual assault and that she had to move to Russia, who was on the staff.
He has to be that, according to her, he has to be that way all the time.
He, in other words, was probably a mean-spirited a-hole husband that Jill married and stayed with and put up with a lot of crap.
It's in she's now on the she has the upper hand now and she can torment and torture him by making him run more and leave letting him get humiliated constantly as nurse.
She's like a nurse ratchet.
And she's just turned into this a woman who can now he's not a shoes on the other foot I'm the boss now and and she wants to she loves it Because it's after all these years of probable abuse and I would guess that's true She can now do the abusing and she knows where all the money is She's got the keys to the houses and the islands and everything and Yeah, she's an easy street.
And I mean, she'd love to just keep the Jet, but she's definitely the one behind pushing him.
You gotta run again, Joe.
Don't let him push you down.
She can get a net Jets card, no problem.
Speaking of dogs, the knives are out for Bobby the Op just to make sure he doesn't try to slip in.
Newsweek reporting there's a picture, and they show a picture, of RFK Jr.
eating a dog!
Yeah, he discussed this on one of the podcasts he was on.
Yeah, it was a cabrito.
It was a goat.
Yeah, it was a goat.
And he wasn't actually eating, he was just holding up the carcass, which is, you know, that's a South American thing, isn't it?
Yeah, pretending to bite it.
And it's a common thing in that, where he was.
It wasn't in Korea, it was someplace else.
But then the second thing they have, and this is from Vanity Fair, I think, is it Vanity Fair?
Yeah, Vanity Fair did a hit piece on him, Out of the Blue.
Oh, really?
The hit piece was well... Well, you want to hear it?
I have a clip, I have a clip.
Well, let me just finish.
It was orchestrated, obviously, way in advance.
Two months ago.
Because you don't, these pieces you can't write overnight.
No.
A new report from Vanity Fair is leveling a range of new allegations about his conduct.
The author of that article, Joe Hagan, joins us now.
He's a special correspondent for Vanity Fair.
Joe, good to see you.
Thanks so much for being here.
Tell us about what you are learning about this, what you found.
Well, you know, I began this reporting about two months ago, and I started to hear, you know, whispers of this kind of thing, and reached this woman who had been through a long process of trying to decide whether she wanted to come forward.
As you can imagine, it requires a lot of guts to come on the record and talk about things like this in public against a figure like Bobby Kennedy, who's a powerful man from a powerful family.
And today, as you just pointed out, those allegations came out.
She was a babysitter for him in 1999, 1998, and he made some advances on her, unwanted advances on her, groped her, she says.
She recorded some of this in a diary that was concurrent with the Times.
Now, he was asked about it point-blank today, and he said he had no comment on it, and also made some other comments that Uh, you know, uh, he's no church boy and what he did in his youth, uh, you know, was he's got skeletons in his closet, he said.
Uh, well, he was 45 at the time of these allegations, which sort of post, post youth, as far as I can tell.
But, uh, so he's not said anything about him.
Uh, he hasn't expanded on it.
He hasn't rebutted it.
Remember when Vanity Fair was kind of like just the lower rent Vogue and they had fashion and, and, you know, some celebrity stuff.
Pussy celebrity stuff, yeah.
Yeah, and now they're doing hit pieces, political hit pieces.
Shame on you, Vanity Fair.
Well, that entire operation, which I think is now owned by Advanced, includes Teen Vogue, which is a socialist organ.
Teen Vogue has... Wait, wait, wait.
Vanity Fair and Vogue are owned by the same publisher?
Yeah.
And Teen Vogue is, for all practical purposes, a Marxist operation, and they have articles in there trying to encourage teens to think more positively about socialism.
I mean, it's just really terrible.
Well, you know, Elyse is staying with us.
She's 27.
And she runs in the circles in Brooklyn, New York.
She knows about our show, of course.
And she sent me, she forwarded me a text message that's going around on the text chain.
And it's filled with emojis, but I'll just try and read the words, because every word is an emoji.
It's like, you just got a ticket!
Ticket emoji.
To the Kamala Train!
The bar car is open, the conductor is zanned up, as in Xanax, and we just hit a cow without even slowing down!
Fave heart and send to ten friends or you'll fall into a K-hole forever!
And none of them are voting.
She says none of her friends are voting.
They don't care.
They've given up.
So I think there's nothing.
It's all gone.
All gone.
It's a K-hole.
Oh, when you take too much ketamine?
Recreationally?
And then you... So that note was laced with drug references?
Yes!
Yes!
Yeah, well that's the general feeling, is like, we're not playing.
We're not playing in this, we don't care.
Kamala's gonna be president, whatever.
We'll just continue our blue-collar jobs.
That's the message.
Well, it sounded like they wanted support for Kamala to me.
Yeah, but they're all laughing about it.
They think it's hilarious.
Yes, the idea is they're all being pandered to to support Kamala Harris and they're all like, no, no, no.
Well, they're going to have, you know, this is interesting because you have two schools of thought of people looking at this, Biden quitting, and there's a lot of adamant, no, he's going to be on the ticket guys who are being pushed out, and I think by the Council on Foreign Relations, Stooges, And I think, and then the other group is that there's going to be replacing, and then there's some people that think that even Gavin Newsom could get in, which is politically incorrect.
It's not going to happen.
You can't move a black...
Whatever you want to call her advertising out and put some white slick, slick guy in instead of her.
I mean, you could almost just swap out the heads and leave Kamala as vice president.
But that that's not going to fly.
Kamala is not going to put up with the only strategy that is left, assuming that Kamala becomes the president and then runs for reelection as president.
To make her as viable as possible through Hollywood and, you know, smoke and mirrors and then cheat their ass off.
And then say, well, we always knew she could do it, you know?
I think that's... Well, that's got to be the strategy.
There's no other strategy than what you just said.
Exactly.
There is no other strategy than...
Phony baloney it up with her and you, right?
Use Hollywood people.
Do some great, some of those ads where you get the celebrity after celebrity.
Yes.
And make her seem smarter than she is.
And then cheat.
Yes.
And then claim that, oh yeah, it was all, you know, she's, she's great.
And then she's another puppet.
Or who, I don't know.
So today is election day in the United Kingdom.
Yeah, I have a couple clips.
Which is hilarious, seeing as, you know, it's the day we whoop their butts.
What was the point of doing the election on the 4th?
Well, it's a snap election.
Well, I have only one clip, so I'd like to hear your clips first, what you got.
I do have a couple roundup clips.
Roundup?
Yeah, UK elections clip.
Ah, good.
Bookmakers say Keir Starmer's Central Left Opposition Labour Party is set to win a record majority in today's general election in the UK.
Britain's Conservative Party all but conceded defeat to Labour yesterday, a day before polling stations even opened, and warned that the opposition party was on a course for a record-breaking victory.
Facing predictions of the worst results in the party's history, the Conservatives turned their focus to damaged litigation.
They said they needed to hang on to enough seats to provide an effective opposition to a Labour government.
Damaged litigation, I thought that was a good term.
They already gave up yesterday.
The conservative Tories came out and said, well, we're okay.
They conceded before one vote was cast.
That's how bad it looks.
Well, there was a very interesting deconstruction on the Lotus Eaters podcast.
Uh and I have a minute of that which I think was and it it kind of pulls back an event that happened in the last couple of months that we didn't really discuss and kind of didn't know what was going on but I like the analysis.
Well I'll say if I could add to that which is a little bit conspiratorial because there's no proper proper You know, this is obviously why I liked it.
It's conspiratorial, okay!
Full-blown evidence for it.
But it is sort of almost inexplicable.
A lot of people have been saying, like, you described it as like a stroke.
It's almost inexplicable why they're...
Why the Tories are being so bad, trying to get themselves re-elected.
Do you remember when Obama came and visited, out of the blue, came and visited Rishi?
Yeah, what was he doing?
Hanging around.
It feels like, and again there's no proper evidence for this, but it just feels like he sort of had a message from the party of Davos, from the WEF overlords, whoever it is, saying it's time to call an election and throw it.
We want Starmer in now.
We see a window of opportunity where Starmer, our other puppet, our backup puppet, can get a massive majority.
And that's better for us now.
So pull an election and throw it.
Yeah, the Uni Party stays in power forever now, which is why it's so imperative to vote reform, frankly.
So we've got to make sure that Farage can get somewhere.
Nigel for PM this time round.
Yeah, exactly.
Make it happen.
Very plausible.
Remember how weird that was, that Obama all of a sudden went into 10 Downing Street?
That was just a couple months ago.
That's an interesting idea.
There is some thought that Farage created this Reform Party to help destroy the Tories, which he has some heart on about.
And so he did, and he keeps trying to become an MP.
He's been trying to do that for, I think, 17 years.
He's never made it.
No.
And whether he gets in this time or now, it's another issue.
And he'd be funny if he was.
It would be great.
It would be good for the show.
It would be great.
It would be good for everybody.
But he always kind of backs off at the end, and there's a scurrilous number of substack columns about him being gay and being blackmailed.
Yeah, you were all over that.
Well, my contact in England, Andrew Olofsky, is a fellow writer.
He's the one that turned me on to this, what's going on, because it turns out that Barrage kind of creates a problem and then all of a sudden out of the blue just backs off and disappears.
Maybe he just makes his money by making problems.
You need a problem.
Give me a problem.
It'll be a hundred thousand quid.
Give me a problem.
But this is going to be a laughable situation because Labour, just to summarise it, the Tories ruined the country.
They didn't do anything.
The public services are down the tubes and this last year, which is what Orlowski was, I was talking to him on the phone, He thought it was kind of baffling is that because of Brexit, the idea of Brexit was to keep immigration down.
And this last 12 months, immigration is the highest in England ever!
You know, one of our friends is in the UK and she was texting Tina.
She said, you know, I was on Oxford Street and it's nothing other than Muslims, women in hijabs, and more.
She said, it doesn't look like London at all anymore.
And London was kind of a melting pot, but now it's just, she said, it's insane.
She said, I would hate to see that happen to any city anywhere.
It's just not London anymore.
The whole street picture has just completely changed.
Now, Amsterdam has some of that, Rotterdam has some of that, but not like that.
We got a boots-on-the-ground from our Brahmin in the UK, Sir Abs.
He says, hi guys, I want to give you a boots-on-the-ground report, the UK general elections.
I'm a brown Hindu guy.
John, I'm a Brahmin!
He says, a silent revolt is occurring.
I'm getting WhatsApp messages after WhatsApp messages from black, brown, and white people urging each other to vote for Farage's Reform Party.
I was not going to vote for anyone at all, but I've been convinced.
I'm voting reform this Thursday, and so is my whole family.
Everyone thinks Labor will get the majority.
We'll wait and see, he says.
I saw that note and then after that is when I talked to Orlowski who says the Farage thing was a psy-op.
And then I thought back on that note and said, well this sounds like a psy-op note to me.
To feed our podcast with dubious information.
The Reform Party is going to get a few seats maybe.
But you're saying that a knight of the Noah-Jenner Roundtable is trying to psy-op us?
You think that's impossible?
I think it's a high insult.
I'm not insulting anybody.
Just saying, it just seemed a little suspicious at the time.
I'm not convinced that this whole thing... Anyway, to continue with the analysis of the Tories having wrecked the country, allowing immigration to completely take over, and then public services to go down the tubes, and the health service to drop dead.
The Labour Party ran on the conditions.
They say they're not going to change anything.
They're not going to improve anything.
So most analysts, if you watch the Deutsche Welle and France 24 when they bring the Brits on, they say that's going to just get worse.
Boots on the ground from our producer Craig and he and his son were in London in March.
He said there was a specific stop on the tube between Heathrow and downtown where every sign was both in English and Arabic.
It's crazy.
So then we have France, where of course the far right, the far right, the far right, oh, the fascists, oh no, they're in, they won, oh no, round one.
Tonight, headlines across Europe declaring President Macron humiliated by a charismatic 28-year-old with an impoverished childhood and no university degree.
Jordan Bardella's far right, former fascist, anti-immigration party winning third.
I like that read, former fascist, How can you be fascist and then like, you know, I'm going to give that up.
I don't want to be a fascist anymore.
Anti-immigration party winning 33% of the vote.
How do you, how do you, how can you be fascist and then like, you know, I'm going to give that up.
I don't want to be a fascist anymore.
Let's just be former fascist.
This is, this is interesting.
So when they say fascist, does that mean he was a member of the Italian Fascisti Party?
The group that formed in the late 20s or in the mid-20s in Italy and became an actual political party?
Yeah, back when vaccines actually meant injecting a deadened virus.
You know, the words change.
Get with it.
Far-right, former fascist, anti-immigration party, winning 33% of the vote.
We need a change, this supporter says.
It's not the France I knew, says this woman, reacting to the results.
At a polling station in Dijon, three hours from the capital, we found huge numbers voting, battling for the soul of a deeply divided country.
The people outside of Paris feel forgotten.
By the government?
Yes.
Emmanuel Macron is a Parisian.
He lives in an ivory tower, says this rival candidate, disconnected from reality.
Tonight, France winning a major soccer match in Germany, but their superstar captain, his father an immigrant, warning extremists are at the door.
Fans at the European tournament last week telling us inflation and immigration are to blame for this unprecedented post-war right wing lurch.
I kind of understand why people are angry.
Do you think people are forgetting their history?
Oh yeah, they sure are.
They're kind of spinning it in a way that suits them.
The French far-right has been negative on the European Union and positive towards Putin.
Europe's future rests on the second vote next Sunday.
I like the right-wing lurch.
We just lurch to the right, everybody.
What's that got to do with communist Russia?
So, I mean, if you're a fascist, you're a super right-winger that is, you know, a fascist.
But Russia's not communist anymore.
It's like communist Russia.
No, it's fascist.
It somehow turned fascist.
That's interesting.
Now, to the actual program.
How does that work, I wonder?
People just need to listen to podcasts because the news is not serving you.
It's no good.
So now let's look at what these guys are actually doing when it comes to the coveted climate change.
Oh no!
Well, the party's manifesto does not mention climate change or net zero targets.
It does mention the environment, but through the angle of environmental norms, which they argue penalize economic growth.
And you find the same language of so-called punitive norms that they have used in the past.
And the national rally, they pledged, and I quote, to defend the quality of life of French people by rejecting all punitive ecology.
Now, those, what you see there on the screen are some key energy-related proposals that the national rally has put forward.
Some of them, environmentalists fear could weaken France's climate ambitions, at least two of them.
The first one being to lower VAT on all energy products from 20% to 5.5%, so that includes fuel, energy, electricity.
gas and heating oil, which in a way could be used to as a tool to promote fossil fuels.
They also plan to invest in hydrogen, geothermal energy and also nuclear reactors.
Now, when it comes to hydrogen and geothermal, those are two things are currently in development.
But there is I mean, nothing shows they could be deployed on a large scale in France at the moment.
And nuclear reactors before they actually built nuclear.
Nuclear reactors are going to take years before we have them.
And they also, more importantly, they also plan to end subsidies for wind power projects and even cancel all projects, bearing in mind that solar and wind power, they make up 15% of France's power generation, and they also help avoid 22% These guys are on the right track.
Shut down those stupid windmills and the solar and get some nuke in there and pander a little bit to the hydrogen crowd, whatever.
And lower the taxes.
22% to 5%.
Yeah, that will make France prosper.
It's obvious.
Yeah, the world is upside down.
Everyone's gone crazy.
Everyone's gone crazy.
It's nuts.
Yeah, noticeably.
I have a couple of Tik Tok, uh... Well... Clips I want to get out of here.
Oh, good.
I'm so happy.
We just had our Pride event in San Francisco, which became very scandalous.
Oh man, the world round they were showing pictures like, what, people took their children to see this?
So let's play, this is a TikToker bitching, and this is a Tik, uh, talking about SF Pride, and she's a, I believe she's a reporter or somebody that, that covers the event, and here she, here she's not happy.
Is this the Pride or the Pride rant?
I think it's about the same.
Oh, okay.
I go with Pride Rant.
I don't know why.
Oh, that's, oh, that's, oh, that's interesting.
Okay, yeah, Pride Rant.
Okay, I feel physically ill after spending the day at San Francisco Pride.
Now, I've been to quite a few Pride events, but this one was by far the most disturbing, and it was because there were nudists there that were fully erect in front of children, standing in a way to make sure that everybody saw their fully exposed penises.
There were adults Grabbing other people's genitals and other adults masturbating.
There was a fetish zone in which people were peeing on each other.
I'm shocked and horrified after experiencing this.
Keep in mind that this is an all ages event.
There were children present.
The fetish zone was an 18 plus area, but there were no IDs being checked.
And again, there were adults essentially having sex in public.
I am shocked.
I've never experienced such a vulgar display of promiscuity.
I mean, I don't even know what to say in terms of this.
I'm shocked and horrified, and I don't think I'm ever going to cover Pride ever again after what I witnessed today.
It was the worst of the worst.
It was bad.
Yeah, I agree.
It was shameful.
What I saw was just like, what?
Are you kidding?
I thought some of it was maybe kind of amplified by some... No, it was pretty, it was covered locally and everyone's kind of like didn't know what to make of it.
But they're all too afraid to go stand up and say, hey, stop this idiocy, aren't they?
Everyone's afraid of being canceled.
They had no morals.
They had the cops there.
The cops were walking by.
There was, I don't have this clip, but I'll tell you what happened.
This woman, uh, two lesbian police officers are walking down the thing.
I said, well, is this legal?
And they said, well, you know, under certain, this all depends on the circumstance.
And they were making all these excuses for these guys walking around the hard on in front of a bunch of kids.
And then in the, there's the, uh, this one little, A zone of, a fetish zone they called it, where there's just a guy in a, in a, there's rubberized swimming pools, you know, the little... Yeah, yeah, the urinating pool.
And they're in there and the guy's on his stomach or on his back and there's a bunch of guys peeing on him and people... Wait a minute, wait a minute, that's a clear violation.
You're not supposed to urinate in the pool.
Clear violation.
And so they're... Sodom and Gomorrah Francisco is what it is.
Sodom and Gomorrah Francisco.
It was gross, and like somebody pointed out, you know, the gay community has gone all their way to push and push gay marriage and all the rest of it, and I always had this friend who said, they're just gonna want more.
But John, that's not the gay community.
That is the... No, it's not.
It's a fetish weirdo community that unfortunately is not being held to account.
To account.
That's exactly right.
And the police aren't doing it.
It's almost like they're doing it on purpose.
And allowing it on purpose.
And the police are turning a blind eye to it.
The whole thing seems like a setup.
You need a revolt over there.
You should lead that.
I don't care.
It's good for the show.
And so it's like a setup to make sure that Trump gets elected.
There's something fishy about the whole thing.
And he makes a twist!
Okay.
We're a broken country, Mr. President.
Come save us.
It's, I mean, I'm actually kind of speechless about what they were doing.
I come from Amsterdam!
No way!
No way!
This is insane!
In front of children.
And of course this is the San Francisco government that allowed this, but I think they just naively allowed it, not understanding the mechanism.
I say this once every couple of months, get out!
Well, I'm not there.
I'm in East Bay.
I'm not anywhere near there.
They didn't have a gay parade here.
It's spreading.
It's not spreading, that's the point.
Those two New York Times readers across the street, they're gonna start walking around.
No, there's New York Times readers all over the place.
That's what I'm saying!
And the thing is, you can map them, because the New York Times is always wrapped in a blue piece of plastic.
So if you drive down the street after the delivery, you can see all their stooges that read the New York Times almost exclusively.
They don't even read the local paper, they just read the New York Times.
It's so sad.
You want to do more TikTok clips?
Yeah, I got some good, yeah.
These are not about the gay thing, but... Yeah, let's get these out of the way.
Yeah.
Now this is a good one.
This is a racist one.
I didn't know any of this, but did you know that when you say good morning, that's racist?
Yeah, because I've seen this one.
The reason why I don't use the term good morning, did you know back in slavery days after the masters had beaten us, taken our children, raped us, hung us, burned us, and then left us in a dark shed overnight?
They would literally open up the door and they would greet us by saying, did you have a good Morning.
Meaning, did you cry all night over the things that we've done to your loved ones?
So this is the reason why I took good morning out of my vocabulary.
Because truly, if you think about it, there is absolutely nothing good about morning.
Ashe, ashe.
Ashe, ashe!
What is that?
I don't know, but this is a classic Roseanne, Rosanna Dana kind of thing.
I question the validity of that.
I will give you that.
I think it could have been a staged stage.
Here's one I'm pretty sure is also semi-staged, but it's not, but it's funny.
This is the followers clip.
This was on Dr. Phil.
It ended up on TikTok.
I mean, I don't talk to my family.
Why not?
They're irrelevant.
They're irrelevant?
None of them have followers.
If they got followers or got rich, I'd probably talk to them again.
Hang on a minute.
Did you just say, I don't talk to my family because they don't have followers?
If they had followers, they'd be here right now.
Are you talking about your mother?
I mean, my mom has more followers than my sister.
It's your mother!
What do you care if she has followers or not?
It's your mother!
Can anyone tell me, like, what I would talk to my mom about if she's not gonna be making me relevant?
Yeah, like, hi mom!
Now I have a career and I'm famous, like, that's what happens when you get famous, you cut people off.
Seriously?
Everyone's upset with it, maybe because you guys aren't relevant either, so you don't understand.
Yeah, see this is, this is what Dr. Phil does wrong.
The whole, what was his, what's his new media company up there?
They started in Dallas.
Something Street.
Yeah, I don't remember.
Nut Job Street Media.
Nut Job Street.
And so he'll do serious, he'll sit down with President Trump, he'll do a serious interview, and then he brings this dip crap on.
I'm like, come on, this is insulting.
And it just brings down all alternative media.
And he's just polluting the waters.
Yeah.
No more Dr. Phil Clouse.
I'm not going to argue.
The last one here is the podcast rant.
Oh, boy.
I can't be the only person who thinks it's insane that we're already collectively forgetting where the word podcast comes from.
I mean, since the iPod has become obsolete, there's no reason for people in the future to piece together that the word came from iPod plus broadcast.
But the even crazier thing about podcast outliving its conceptual origins is that the exact same thing already happened with the word broadcast, which used to refer to an agricultural technique of widely dispersing seeds on the ground.
Then that got abstracted as a metaphor for widely dispersing information to the public, and then about 100 years later, that got turned into the word podcast.
And this keeps getting crazier the more you think about it, because what's the word pod?
The iPod was named in reference to a scene from the movie 2001 A Space Odyssey where the main character says, open the pod bay doors, Hal.
And the pod bay doors in question were named because of their visual similarity to biological plant pods, which are just vessels for carrying seeds.
So somehow podcast traces back to a word for something that carries seeds and a word for dispersing seeds.
All right.
I'm going to turn off your access to TikTok.
You're not, you're no longer allowed to watch TikTok videos anymore.
I clipped that specifically for you, for your files, your podcasting files.
Thanks.
So you can have it in the collection and you can always refer to it if necessary.
In case I need to remember where the, where the term podcast came from.
Yeah, because we're going to soon forget.
Yeah.
Okay.
You've put me in...
You've put me in irons here.
I have a brain freeze now.
I can't do anything after that.
There's nowhere to go.
Well, let's go to Gaza and do a quick Gaza thing.
I do have Gaza.
You have Gaza too.
Let me start with my safe zone clips from Gaza.
Here we go.
An Israeli airstrike killed 12 Palestinians in al-Mawassi on Tuesday despite the fact that it has been designated as a safe zone by Israel.
These Palestinians have been fleeing from the eastern part of Khan Yunis in droves, continuing overnight.
They've described there's been an intense bombardment around Khan Yunis, some of the heaviest fighting in that second biggest city in the Gaza Strip since Israeli troops withdrew there in early April.
There's one hospital source that said shelling killed at least eight people And people have been really heading west, some to other parts of Khan Yunis, and many more to this area which the Israeli military has declared a safe zone along the coast, the al-Mawarsi area.
It's about 14 kilometres long, but of course people are struggling to find space there.
The reason that Khan Yunis has become so crowded, after it was largely left in ruins following that months-long Israeli military offensive there against what the Israeli military said was a stronghold of Hamas, This is starting to bum me out, man.
This, this is, there, stop!
And this is just the military-industrial complex, let's just do more, let's keep more war going on, keep it in the news, BBC, good job everybody, I'm sure you have some clips.
Well I have NTD because the BBC is terrible.
NTD is just amateurish, but they got better analysis.
They brought an analyst on to talk about some of the Gaza stuff, and I think it's at least giving us some insight.
Although, you know, I don't even believe, that last one you played, I don't even believe any of this.
These reports out of Gaza, we can't trust any of it on either side.
It's all propaganda.
Earlier we spoke with David Wormser, Middle East Affairs Analyst at the Center for Security Policy, about where things currently stand in the Israel-Hamas War.
David Wormser, thank you so much for joining us.
Great to have you back on the show.
Now the IDF says that over 1,000 terrorists have been killed in Rafa.
These are ones that they know, this doesn't include ones that are buried in the rubble.
Given that, where do things currently stand in terms of the Israel-Hamas War?
Yeah, good question.
I think that Israel has essentially now destroyed the functional military structure of Hamas.
Namely, they can't really operate as significant units.
Against Israel.
But what they can do is they break down into little squads that suddenly show up.
They can do terrorist attacks.
They may still be able to launch missiles here and there.
Very few, but some.
Mostly short range because they're smaller.
They may have a very, very limited ability to continue to produce a few missiles here and there.
So the Israelis, I think, have more or less shut down this as a problem.
from October 7th levels.
What they still face, though, is they need to keep Gaza quite restricted, which means they need to keep the border area between Egypt and Gaza under their control.
Because Hamas still exists as an organization, and it still has enough territory and enough people who would join it that it can reconstitute its force very rapidly within a few months or a year.
And the know-how is there.
So the Israelis really have to constrict what goes in and controls very carefully, that it can't be used to build weapons, build new tunnels.
And they have to maintain security control over the area, which means they have to be able to go anywhere in that territory at any time to arrest somebody, to arrest.
To take down a tunnel that's starting to be built, a missile factory that comes.
So it's now small insurgency warfare that Israel faces.
I think the story that's built around it, whether it's the BBC's version or NTD's version, is kind of irrelevant.
The idea is annihilate everything.
Egypt may even want to open the gate, but now Israel is like, no, no, no, that's under our control.
We're not going to let anybody out.
They're just going to flatten it and everybody in it, because there's no way.
If you have three insurgents, you have more tunnels, they're going to light up more stuff.
It's a never-ending situation.
It's pathetic.
It's really, it's sad.
It's just like this.
Well, you got two people.
This is the Hatfields and the McCoys.
They hate each other.
Isaac and Ishmael.
I mean, it goes back a long way.
Yeah, it keeps going back.
It's been around since I was a kid.
I remember this.
Yes, Isaac and Ishmael days.
When I was a kid during Ishmael's era.
Yeah, so it's almost ludicrous to cover it, but let's play part two.
On that note, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has indicated privately that he could accept involvement by the Palestinian Authority in a post-war Gaza.
Now this is according to a report.
Given that, what are the likely next steps for Israel here?
I think it'd be very difficult for them to really accept the Palestinian Authority for a couple reasons.
One is they see the Palestinian Authority becoming Increasingly hostile.
They never really had peace with the Palestinian Authority, which is mostly now in the West Bank and Judea and Samaria.
So the Israelis, I don't think, trust that not to produce another threatening force that arises in Gaza.
So I don't think they can really let them in on that level.
The second thing is I don't think they really want to reward Hamas for doing this war by essentially creating a new Palestinian government.
But most importantly, I think the Israelis feel they need to maintain security control over the territory.
So I don't believe that really the Palestinian Authority is in the cards.
The Israelis much would prefer to work with local powers in the area, families, clans, tribes, more traditional structures and create a very bottom-up governing structure that eventually has more and more power, but at the beginning is really under their direct occupation.
You know, when when the October 7th happened, which, of course, is has the moniker October 7th to make it sound like September 11th.
They were right.
It was a false flag.
Netanyahu and whoever else was involved, the military-industrial complex, the defense-industrial base, let it happen.
They knew that something could happen.
They knew they were teaming up.
They wanted this.
Jared Kushner wants his condos, his Oceanview villas, the golf course, everything.
This was a setup.
They want it.
And they want war in the Middle East.
They want war, war, war.
That's why AIPAC is funded by the defense contractors.
They just want war.
More money with war.
And now let's go to Hezbollah, please.
Because those guys are a different caliber than Hamas.
Tonight, Israel assassinating one of the highest-ranking Hezbollah commanders in Lebanon, inching Israel and the powerful Iranian-backed militia even closer to an all-out war.
Mohammad Nimr Nasser was killed in an apparent drone strike in southern Lebanon, and Hezbollah launching over 100 rockets at Israel in response.
It comes as Hezbollah and Israeli officials have traded threats of annihilation in recent weeks.
But Israel and U.S.
sources telling ABC News both Hezbollah and Israel have essentially agreed to broad parameters of a U.S.
broker deal that would stave off a war.
An agreement Hezbollah said it cannot sign until there's a ceasefire in Gaza.
But in Gaza, no signs of a truce.
Israel is in its sixth day of a raid in the north, the fighting visible from nearby Israeli villages.
We can hear the small arms fire now taking place in Shejahiya.
There is a battle going on in there.
And in the southern part of the Gaza Strip, the IDF ordering mass evacuations in the eastern part of Khan Yunis.
An estimated 250,000 Gazans impacted.
Women and children seem piled into carts, many sleeping in the streets.
Osmahan breaking down from the fear and uncertainty saying, I don't think it will remain safe.
We have been displaced multiple times.
Whit, the ceasefire talks are creaking ahead.
One of the main sticking points, as we understand it, is that Hamas wants a full withdrawal of Israeli troops, but an Israeli official telling me today that they intend to hold parts of the Gaza Strip for months.
Yeah.
Now, just keep it going.
If it's good, send more stuff over there.
Here's the NTD version of the Hezbollah report.
In Lebanon, an Israeli strike killed a senior Hezbollah commander on Wednesday morning.
Israel's defense minister says this about the escalating tensions in Lebanon.
We are striking Hezbollah very hard every day, and we will also reach a state of full readiness.
We prefer an arrangement, but if reality forces us, we will know how to fight.
And in the West Bank, four Gazans have been laid to rest after they were killed in an Israeli strike on Tuesday.
The Israeli army says the strike hit terrorists hiding in the area.
Also in the West Bank, a settlement tracking group on Wednesday said that Israel approved the largest seizure of land in over three decades, almost five square miles.
That's bigger than 2,000 football fields combined.
So once we have Once we have Lebanon, which is of course Hezbollah, then we only have a couple more on the West Clark 7.
Sudan was always on the list, and there's news from Sudan.
Here's my Africa clip!
Let's turn now to the continuing conflict in Sudan.
The UN says humanitarian agencies there have faced looting on an industrial scale since the civil war between the army and the paramilitary group, the Rapid Support Forces, erupted more than a year ago.
The UN also says starvation is being used as a weapon of war in Sudan.
It's been warning of an imminent famine with 25 million people urgently needing humanitarian assistance.
A senior UN official told the BBC that hundreds of millions of dollars worth of aid had been lost.
That's the same script as Gaza.
Whatever happened to them dying of hunger in Gaza?
That left the scene.
Remember that?
The famine?
The famine, yeah.
They were starving to death.
That's gone.
And then Iran, we don't really know much about the new puppet.
Curiously, it's gone, but also is the piers gone?
That thing's totally gone.
And the pier was to keep the famine from happening, supposedly.
Yeah, the famine's over, so it's all good.
How does that work?
We got a new puppet incoming, and there's a runoff, so we'll see.
We don't know much about the new guy.
We'll find out.
This is Reuters.
Tell me they're not using AI voices in this short clip.
...to Iran, where, after an election campaign dominated by hardliners, moderate presidential hopeful Massoud Pazeshkian has made it into a runoff.
The 69-year-old was up against candidates who more closely reflect the fiercely anti-Western stance of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Pozeshkian narrowly beat hardliner Saeed Jalili for first place, and they now go to a runoff this Friday.
I think that's AI.
Well, the pronunciation of Hamanet was awfully good for A.I.
She has a flat, monotone style that sounds very much like A.I.
She should probably find some other work.
Then we have the final theater, which is Ukraine, of course.
That continues.
Dead bodies everywhere, which we never see.
Don't show that on the news.
You can't do that.
Putin made a statement about the possibility of Trump becoming president again.
You know, the fact that Mr. Trump, as a presidential candidate, says that he's ready and wants to stop the war in Ukraine, we take that very seriously.
I haven't seen his ideas on how exactly he's going to do that.
And that is the key question.
But I have no doubt that he says that sincerely and we support that.
Yeah, Putin's open!
He's open.
That was read by the mainstream media as Putin endorses Trump!
Really?
No, I didn't get that one.
Yeah, somehow now that means Putin is endorsing Trump.
The Russians, those damn Russians.
Makes nothing but sense.
And with that happy news, I'd like to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea and Biden in a coma, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Dvorak!
There we go.
Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
Also, in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
Yeah, it's not surprising that we're a little bit lower.
It is, of course, 4th of July weekend.
Happy birthday, America!
Still, unbelievably, we have 1,655 trolls in the troll room.
Let me see what we have.
What did we have on the last... It's reasonable for Thursday.
The last Thursday we had 1657, so we're only two down?
Wow.
That's pretty good.
Now think about it.
Well, I'm glad, I'm glad to see y'all here celebrating with us.
Trolls, thank you.
And thank you to Darren O'Neill for doing the, uh, doing the pre-stream.
That was quite nice.
That he, uh, got everybody ready for, uh, for the big show.
Um...
This is our value for value proposition.
You can listen to it like the trolls are doing and contribute by trolling along, and they are usually quite helpful.
They help us out with real-time fact-checking, which is usually ignored, but you know, one line is all kinds of good stuff comes through.
You can join them at trollroom.io, which is our brand new interface.
There's no agenda stream, which is on 24 hours a day.
Or you can use a modern podcast app, which you can find at podcastapps.com.
Go and pick one up, like Podcast Guru.
I've been using that as my daily driver for a while.
I really like it.
People sometimes send me screenshots and they have like the Apple Podcast app and then somebody who's Podverse or Fountain or Podcast Guru.
And you'll see that the modern podcast apps notify you within 90 seconds of us publishing it.
Between 15 minutes and two to three hours before any of those legacy apps actually notify you.
And they could join in, by the way.
They're just too arrogant.
Like, we're Apple.
We can't be a part of your system.
No, it's not invented here syndrome.
NIMBY.
Exactly.
No, that's not in my backyard.
Yeah, well, same thing.
It's not in their backyard.
Yeah, well, we are in their backyard.
We're breathing down their neck.
PodcastApps.com.
We also, um, you know, the New York Times is now, uh, new strategy for their podcast.
New strategy.
We're going to keep the ads, but we're now also going to put it behind a paywall.
But they're going to drop the podcast.
It's just going to be ads.
No, they've, uh, they're now putting serial and check it out.
The daily, the daily, that's their daily news podcast.
Yeah, that's their big hit.
They're going to put it behind the paywall.
Well, that's dumb.
Yes, it's the stupid, they don't realize.
They don't get it.
That just like Howard Stern, and I would say to agree Joe Rogan, when he went behind the Spotify paywall, you do lose some relevance.
Howard Stern really lost relevance altogether.
I think Joe was, you know, was good.
He didn't lose money.
Yeah, but you know, okay, fine.
But that just leaves us out here to entertain the plebs, which is fine by me.
We just pick up more because you can't have 20 subscriptions to all your favorite podcasts.
They're just not going to work.
People can't even buy fireworks this year.
To just light off willy-nilly.
So they're not going to do that.
I think it's a fundamental mistake.
They should use that as a loss leader to draw people in and give them special deals on Wordle.
It's not like people subscribe for the news.
You're dead right.
If you were producing it, which you're not, that's exactly what you'd do.
It's not even a loss leader.
You can run ads in it.
They do!
They can make money.
Kind of.
They have an advertising department that sells ads at the newspaper.
You can bundle it with the podcast ad.
Yeah.
So that wouldn't even be a loss leader.
Yeah.
So the idea of putting it behind a paywall is idiotic.
What's the point?
And they're going to keep running the ads behind the paywall.
Can you believe it?
So there you go.
So now you're going to get less listenership.
So the ads are less effective and the advertisers are going to say, what?
You don't?
No, I'm not.
No.
And think about The meetings they're gonna have to have with the advertisers.
Well, you're not quite getting the reach you used to when you were above before you went behind the paywall.
Yeah, but these are qualified New York Times listeners.
Oh, the ones that urinate on each other in San Francisco in the pool?
Yeah, they're buyers.
They got money.
They got lots of money.
They got money to piss away, I tell you.
Ooh!
Yeah, I know.
I did it.
I did it.
Instead, we, uh, we hate meetings.
We don't meet with each other.
This is, you know... There was a big article about Value for Value, which was quite nice.
Oh yeah, where was this?
Um... It was, uh, let me see... It was nice.
There's one thing I didn't like about this article.
Let me see if I can find it real quick for you.
Who wrote this thing?
Um... Did they call you and get some, uh, get a comment?
Nope!
No, they called other people, of course.
They never call me.
Descript, well, Descript is actually, it's a very successful editing program.
Descript, they use AI, you know.
And they had this whole article, what is value for value podcast monetization and should you do it?
And So, you know, who wrote this article?
This was written by Courtney Kokak.
She's a pretty successful podcaster.
And it talks about time, talent, and treasure.
Here, Value for Value asks listeners to reciprocate the value they receive from a podcast with time, talent, or treasure.
Time.
They even use our catchphrases.
So she obviously gave us a big plug in that thing, didn't she, in the write-up?
She did.
She did.
Okay.
Well, I'm not happy with that.
Crediting Adam Curry.
I can't.
It didn't say John C. Dvorak.
Podcasting's inventor.
He has some crush on you.
With pioneering value for value through his show.
His.
His show.
No agenda.
I'm not even in the picture anymore.
The show has thrived on direct audience support for over 15 years.
It's almost 17.
Without any advertising.
So, Curry is a big proponent and success story for the audience support.
So, what was this woman's name?
Courtney... Courtney... Kocak.
Courtney Kopack?
Kocak.
C-O-C-A-K.
But here's the part that I didn't like.
Um... Let me see, I'm going down here.
Um, no, I must have skipped over it.
The origins, yeah, okay, okay.
But!
But!
Adam Curry isn't the sole mastermind behind Value for Value.
This is obviously where they should have brought in John C. Dvorak.
Nope.
Many people believe Founding Wire editor Kevin Kelly's seminal blog post, 1,000 True Fans, was the catalyst for Value for Value.
What?
Let me go look at this blog post.
When was this posted?
This blog post was posted in 2008, so it was around the same time.
Although we were earlier with our value for... He probably lifted it from us.
I know, I think.
I didn't like that.
I didn't like that.
It was like, push us out.
It was Kelly.
His name was Courtney, Courtney Kokak.
Let's see what she's about.
There's a link here.
Courtney Kokak.
Founder and host of Podcast Bestie.
Podcast what?
Podcast bestie.
You know, like, she's my bestie.
John, you're my podcast bestie.
Yes.
Los Angeles-based writer, podcaster, and comedian.
Oh, another comedian with a podcast.
She does do her podcast value for value, though.
I'll give her that.
Oh, good, good for her.
Yeah.
She's, she's your, John, she's your podcast bestie.
You're underwhelmed.
Uh, I hate her.
You don't actually hate anybody.
I do, I hate her.
I mean, she's a phony.
That's the way I see it.
Well, I think it's despicable because if anyone had spoken to me, I would, of course, said we and our.
We pioneered, created, and developed the name, certainly the name, The idea, the idea also, and we have a whole genesis for it, it was an accidental discovery, almost like dynamite.
Or nitroglycerin.
And I would have said our podcast.
I never, I never would let that dangle out there.
That's just rude.
Which also means she probably has never listened.
I'm guessing she's never listened to the podcast and she's just, I don't know where she got the idea that it's a solo.
She makes it sound like a solo podcast.
Yeah, it's not right.
Sometimes it is, but generally speaking, it's not.
No, it's not right.
I mean, the only thing that would, she would have made only worse if she'd added Kara Swisher into the mix.
That would have made it worse.
She didn't do that, luckily.
So for those of you who have read that article and have tuned in here, let's show you how it really works because we have actual true value for value.
It's not Patreon.
Patreon is not value for value.
That's levels and subscriptions.
No, we leave it up to people to send us whatever they think the show is worth and however they want to contribute back value.
Show me one other podcast that has its entire infrastructure, all its websites managed by the producers.
Also put in there, we don't have listeners.
We don't have fans.
We don't have fans.
Our fans don't support the show.
We have producers who create this with us, together.
Give us boots on the ground, clips, information, insight.
Because everyone is an expert at something.
That's what makes this podcast the best podcast in the universe.
And we also have artists.
Not just artists, Dutch masters!
Dutch masters who create art for us for every single episode.
10, 20, 30 pieces sometimes for us to choose from and select the absolute crème de la crème.
Such as Dame Kenny Bent's excellent Biden off-the-rails train art for episode 1673 which we titled Mummy and the Dummy.
You loved the train picture, you hated the title.
You actually said, you owe me one for that.
Yeah, I did do that.
I didn't like the title, but I relented.
And the train art I did like, it was the first thing I saw and I saw this is just the way I saw it actually.
During the previous segment, it lingered.
She got it in early.
Yeah, she did.
Yeah, it says the whole thing, train going off the rails.
It was perfect.
What else was there?
There wasn't anything else, really.
No, there really wasn't.
It was actually less than normal selection.
I think the reason, I'll tell you what I think.
I think the artists look at the art before they start to submit, and they saw that piece... Oh, and they went, that's it.
I'm done.
I'm toast.
I can't beat that piece.
Not even gonna try.
Yeah, I think you're right.
That does happen.
That does happen.
Definitely.
That's what happens when a good piece comes in early.
If she had put the piece in late...
We would have had a lot more art.
And also I'll say that artists are wrong.
It's not entirely true.
In this case, yeah.
No, I think they're wrong most of the time.
That's why they're artists and not art directors.
And I remember during the era and the heyday of the no agenda... Forums?
Not forums.
I thought you were going to say no agenda forums.
No agenda whatever is social.
Yes, that website, yes.
In the heyday of that, the artists had this little click, and they would pre-predict what they thought was going to win, and they were continually wrong.
They were all in there saying, I think your piece was the best, they were complimenting, they're a bunch of, you know, they're blowing each other, and they're talking about their art, and they were always wrong.
We always pick something generally different.
Well, we appreciate... They don't have the taste of Of an artist, necessarily.
They're just artists.
Artists are artists.
All of them are artists.
All of them are appreciated and loved.
We really do love what you do.
And we even love going, like, oh, that's a horrible piece.
But we love that person.
We say that frequently.
You know, I really love that person.
But that artist is just not going to fly.
You do that with Darren.
Yes, all the time.
And Darren just wants to hear us talk about him, that's all.
Darren always puts in a reasonable piece that could be used.
It's always usable.
Yeah, that is exactly Darren.
He's Mr. Usable.
If I had a radio station, you know, back in the day when it mattered, I would have Darren on staff because you can say, Darren, someone dropped out of the midnight shift, you're in.
Darren, the morning zoo guy is out, Darren, you're in.
Darren can do it all.
He really can.
He's amazing.
He's multi-talented.
I agree.
He's incredibly talented.
Yes.
He's no Dutch master, though.
That kind of, that's what separates all of these artists that usually win.
Go to Noah ArtGenerator.com.
You can see all of the art.
You can even participate.
You can create an account.
You can upload.
You can play along.
And if you're using a modern podcast app, check out the chapters.
Look at what Dreb Scott does.
He uses a lot of different pieces from the Art Generator in the chapters.
So really, everybody wins.
There's no losers.
Part of the value for value model is we want you to send us treasure.
We appreciate whatever the amount is that is equals the value that you get from the show.
That's very simple how it works.
No one can look into your pocketbook.
So whatever you're handing out, we just presume it's what you think the show is worth.
We do have some extra love for executive and associate executive producers who come in $200 and above.
We read your note $300 above for an executive producership credit.
And we read your note as well, and we want to highlight them just like Hollywood earlier on in the show.
And we kick it off today with Anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina, who comes in with 74142.
So, what is that?
Is that some kind of... Oh, it's 704.33 plus fees.
And Anonymous says, happy 4th of July, gents.
Here's 704.33 plus fees to mark the occasion.
July 4th, obviously.
Thank you for the outstanding product, Anonymous.
And we say thank you and happy 4th of July.
Sir Ichabod is next.
He comes in from Lake Forest, Washington at 333.34.
In the morning, Kevin McLaughlin is truly a great American, and I'm proud to sit at the same round table as him.
Yay.
Uh, jingle request, Raven, JCD Boobs, uh, Patriot Karma, please don't hurt the baby seals, Sir Ichabod of the Bike Path Gorble, in Stowe, it says it's in Lake Forest, Washington, but it's actually in Stowe, Vermont.
And coming in with 333.33, another anonymous donor, Sioux Falls, South Dakota, 9707, No notes, so we'll hand out a... I have a note.
You have a note.
You sure this is the note?
You have another note.
It's a note from paper.
It came in as a check.
Oh, okay.
You have a note.
Keep up the good work.
Your analysis is almost always spot on.
You're always there to spin us down after the fear-mongering media spins us up.
Please stop looking for exit strategies.
P.S.
I 100% underlined agree.
Kristi Noem doesn't want to be VP.
Even someone who puffs their lips up to balloons knows to leave pets out of the mix.
Anonymous and Sioux Falls.
Four more years!
Alright, we'll give you Karma Anonymous, thank you.
You've got Karma.
That's crazy.
Puffs.
Uh, you gonna do the next one?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're on Sir Hare Heist.
Oh, okay.
Uh, Sir Hare Heel.
I don't know where you get heist from.
What'd I say, heist?
I don't know.
You didn't say.
Sir Hare Heel, White Salmon, Washington, 333, Jobs Karma, and F Cancer, please.
Well, we got that for you.
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You saw.
How am I?
Dame Kelly in Sayville, New York, 248.
And she writes, 248, which is first associate executive producer.
Happy Fourth of July, John and Adam.
Here's 248 for America's 248th birthday.
Ah, there was the gimmick we missed.
That's right.
Or I missed.
This brings me to Baronette Tess' status.
Thanks for, uh, thanks and enjoy the day.
I love you guys.
Dame Kelly of the Longest Island.
Well, thank you very much, Dame Kelly, and we'll see you at the upgrade table later.
Yeah, you know, you sent me the text for the newsletter, and it never came in, and then I realized that my entire inbox had gone away, and somehow my Thunderbird had marked everything as spam.
So that's why I never saw it.
But people came up with it themselves, like Sir Scott and Dame Elizabeth from Gardner, Kansas. 248!
ITM, John and Adam, since you're both working on another holiday, the 4th of July, we tend to do that.
It was time to contribute to the no- It's a holiday?
I guess.
It was time to contribute to the No Agenda cause.
Please accept this donation of $248 to commemorate 248 years since America declared its independence.
That is, if you use 1776 as the date.
Thank you for all that you both do to keep us sane in these trying times.
Sir Scott, protector of the Hobby Farm, and Dame Elizabeth in Gardner, Kansas.
And they wanted the kettle calling the pot jingle.
And I happened to...
I have that one here.
Hello, Kettle.
This is the pot calling.
There you go.
You got it.
You know, it should have been, I did this in a couple of newsletters.
I think the one from 2017, I should have done it again, which is the 4th of July should have been the 2nd of July.
That's correct.
Celebration.
Yes, yes.
Erika, Erika, Erika.
Kochig?
Kochig in Marietta, Georgia?
Koochig, maybe.
Koochig.
Koochig.
Just guess.
21060.
Hike, comrades!
It's that time of the year where my human resource, Hogan, celebrates his birthday.
He'll be 8 on the 4th 5th.
Time zone problems when you're both in China.
China.
He loves his Uncle John and Adam and still thinks everything's a scam.
He's gonna go far in life, no doubt.
That's my guess.
Alright, good boy.
Eli the Coffee Guy is still in Bensonville, Illinois, 20704.
Another variation of the 4th of July.
Thank you.
He says to John, Adam, and all of Gitmo Nation, Happy Independence Day!
Since the Sons of Liberty first threw tea into the Boston Harbor, coffee has been the morning beverage of America.
As patriotic a drink today as it was then.
You should visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
Can I get the Team America jingle?
Stay caffeinated!
Eli the Coffee Guy!
There's a need for a rescue mission.
When the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America.
And that's the story.
Classic.
Classic, Eli.
Thanks.
And that's the story.
And here's the last story, which is our last donor.
It's actually a short list.
Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
Of course, she comes in and asks for Jobs Karma at $200 for a resume that gets results.
She writes, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.
Thanks for the jingles and shout outs.
She got an extra one last show.
Happy 4th!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
I'm not.
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Well, this is kind of interesting.
Do you remember, do you remember that I talked to my pals about the testing industrial complex.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Health officials?
Yeah, your testing buddies.
Yeah, my testing buddies.
And do you remember I was like, okay, well is it bird flu?
Is it bird flu?
Is it all going to be bird flu?
And they said, no.
Do you remember what they did say?
No, I don't remember what they did say.
What they did say is that the CDC was hyping dengue fever.
Oh no, yes, right.
And yes, dengue was mentioned.
And that's when I came up with my aspirin anecdote.
Yes, don't take aspirin if you have dengue fever.
Well, your anecdote is more relevant than ever!
And a new warning from the CDC.
There's been a surge of dengue fever around the world.
And that's increasing the risk of it spreading here in the U.S.
Global cases of the mosquito-borne disease hit record numbers this year.
Countries in the Americas are reporting twice as many cases than in all of 2023.
And now health officials in Florida are urging the public...
Twice as many?
Twice as many.
Did it go from 1 to 2?
Or did it go from 4 to 8?
We don't know, but... Did it go from 1,000 to 2,000?
I mean, twice as many is meaningless.
It's surging, John.
Didn't you hear the beginning?
It's surging.
It's surging.
I just love that this obvious setup was known to us two weeks ago.
Oh no, the CDC is going to come out with dengue fever and thank you CBS!
Countries in the Americas are reporting twice as many cases than in all of 2023.
And now health officials in Florida are urging the public to take extra precautions like wearing bug spray and dumping out standing water.
That's interesting.
I'll come back to that in a moment after we talk to Dr. Celine Gounder.
Joining me now is the Editor-at-Large for Public Health at KFF and CBS News Medical Contributor, Dr. Celine Gounder.
Always great seeing you, doctor.
So, what do we know about how dengue fever is spreading and what are some of the potential risks associated with this virus?
Dengue fever spreads by mosquito bites, and part of what we're seeing now is with climate change, with increasing areas that are hot, humid, which are friendly to mosquitoes, where mosquitoes breed, we're seeing more transmission of dengue.
And so we've seen a huge outbreak in Latin America over the last several months.
There are parts of the United States that are also at risk, in particular the Gulf Coast, Florida, Texas, also parts of Southern California.
Shut up!
What protects us here in the United States against dengue is people generally live in better homes, better housing, where you have screened windows, you have air conditioning, and so you have less exposure to mosquitoes in your home.
But this is not a benign illness.
People can develop very high fevers, headaches, vomiting, shock, where your blood pressure drops dramatically, and without treatment, about 15% of people who get dengue can die.
So, very interesting.
It's blamed on, of course, climate change.
We all knew that climate change will be responsible for the next pandemic.
Plandemic.
But I just want to take us, because they mention Florida, the Gulf Coast, Florida, Florida, Florida, the Gulf Coast, Florida, southern part of Texas, Florida.
Hmm.
Ah, my memory does go back at least two years.
2022!
Since 2021, UK-based biotech company Oxitec has released millions of genetically modified male Aedes aegypti mosquitoes in the Florida Keys.
Remember that?
Yeah.
No one ever questions that.
That's a Bill Gates project.
It sure is.
No one ever questions that nonsense they did.
I thought that that was supposed to stop mosquitoes from spreading things like dengue fever.
That was the idea, wasn't it?
Yeah, that was the idea.
How'd that work out, Bill Gates?
They just subjected the entire Gulf Coast population to dengue fever.
Don't take aspirin.
How do you know when you have dengue and shouldn't take aspirin?
You have to be tested.
Oh.
Yeah.
I love it.
We got testing.
Testing.
Another thing you should never do, and I'd love to hear your input on this, John, you should never eat the plane on the food, the food on the plane.
You shouldn't eat the plane ever.
You should definitely not eat the plane!
Delta 136, can you confirm that none of the pilots ate any of the food?
It was not a great start to the holiday for passengers on Delta Flight 136 from Detroit to Amsterdam.
They ended up in New York early this morning after at least a dozen people got sick from eating chicken apparently contaminated with mold.
Delta says it sincerely apologizes for that incident.
Dude, that could've been me!
Could've been me!
I never eat chicken on the plane.
I don't like it.
Yeah, 12 people got food poisoning.
And they had to go back.
Oh, well, we better go back.
People are puking all over the place.
It's horrible!
Well, that was pretty fast acting.
Oh, interesting.
You don't think it would happen that fast?
No, it doesn't.
Fast acting is not caused by mold.
I don't know.
It's just very fast acting.
Food poisoning usually takes a while.
The only time I really got sick in the last 20, 30 years was from a flight back from Mexico City.
I was eating fine in Mexico and then on the flight back, I had some, I think, spoiled fruit.
Oh no.
It was a mistake.
Yeah.
I always have some travel advice.
It could be a tip of the day.
I know what it is, and it's a great tip of the day, and I think you should save it.
I'll save it.
Today's tip of the day will be at the end of the show, and it'll be a travel tip.
Traveler's tip of the day, exactly.
Now, there was no word whether this Delta flight was a Boeing or not.
Doesn't matter, we got plenty of Boeing problems.
Breaking news to tell you about the Federal Aviation Administration investigating after a United Airlines flight returned to O'Hare shortly after takeoff today.
United Flight 343 had been heading for San Francisco, but the Boeing 737 started experiencing issues with cabin pressure.
Nobody got hurt.
The plane landed safely back at O'Hare around noon.
Of course, no actual news.
Did the mask drop?
Was a depressurization event?
You know, they don't want to tell us anything.
But that doesn't really matter because the best Boeing news has got to be the astronauts in space.
Have you been following?
You're right.
Yeah, and I'm actually remiss for not having a clip of it.
You know what's going to, well, play the clip and then I predict what's going to happen.
So the Starliner indeed is a capsule that can dock with the International Space Station and is set to become a sort of space taxi, if you will, to bring astronauts up there into the ISS.
Now, back in 2014, NASA actually ordered two of those vehicles.
Both to Boeing and SpaceX.
And the idea was to be able to really alternate flights between both companies.
Now SpaceX, as usual, delivered very quickly with the Crew Dragon.
It's been operational for four years now.
But Boeing's program fell behind in a big way.
And finally on June 5th, indeed, the Starliner was able to take off from Florida.
The goal of this first mission was really to demonstrate that this vehicle created by Boeing was safe and was capable of bringing the astronauts up there.
On board you have two astronauts, Butch Wilmore and Suri Williams.
The test was indeed supposed to last about a week, and it has been extended due to a slow helium leak in the spacecraft propulsion system.
Now, NASA and Boeing actually knew about this leak before takeoff, but for some reason, I don't know how, but they initially believed it wouldn't affect the test mission and the astronaut safety.
And we don't know actually when either of them are going to be able to come back here to planet Earth.
That's right.
Quite incredible.
But since June 6th, they've already changed twice the date of their return to Earth.
So at first, NASA said they could return by the end of, by mid-July.
But then later, NASA's program boss, Steve Stitch, said that he was verifying that Starliner's batteries could have a little bit more autonomy, and perhaps three months autonomy.
And this is what prompted people to think that, you know, NASA wasn't ruling out the return by the end of August.
And for now, NASA and Boeing says there's absolutely no issue here.
During the press conference, many journalists, of course, were quite skeptical of this.
And the reason why is because they say that, you know, the space division of Boeing is, it can't be completely isolated from the rest of its commercial activities, and mainly linked to all of the problems it's had with its airliners, specifically, very recently, the loss of a door in mid-flight.
This is an epic, epic fail for Boeing.
That's really bad.
Your thoughts?
They're going to have to apologize and get the Russians to take these guys home.
Why not Musk?
Why can't Musk?
I think Musk, if Musk, well for one thing, Musk doesn't have just spare rockets sitting around that he can just launch up there.
The Russians, I think they do.
He might, he might.
But I think Musk shouldn't do it.
I think he should make him, have the Russians do it to show the idiotic dependency that we have on Russia for the space program.
Let me ask you this.
So, you know, Boeing is in such deep water, or as my parents used to say, kimchi.
Here's a quick clip just to bring us up to speed.
The U.S.
Justice Department will this week criminally charge Boeing with fraud over two fatal crashes.
Carmel Crimmins has more.
So US authorities are asking the planemaker to plead guilty or take the risk of going to trial and Boeing has until the end of this week to decide.
This comes at a particularly bad time for Boeing, right?
Absolutely.
The planemaker's already engulfed in crisis over its safety record and a guilty plea could affect its ability to enter into government contracts.
And business with the US military makes up a significant chunk of its revenues.
So, you know, I can't help but think You know, initially we were like, hey, you know, these guys that haven't paid their representatives, they haven't put enough money in the kitty.
Like, how much money you make, man?
You make $33 million?
$33 million, really?
You've only donated $1 million, the whole company, to our campaigns?
What if they just take this one step further?
Why wouldn't they take the highly compromised, likely one of the largest military contractors for the United States, Elon Musk, Give the space stuff to him, which he already has half of the business, if not more.
And why not let Elon buy Spirit Aerosystems?
Have him build planes.
Take it away from Boeing.
They seem like they're just... Boeing can't win.
Someone else should be building these planes.
And isn't Spirit putting together the bodies and a lot of the important... Why don't you go one step further?
Okay, buy Boeing.
Give Boeing to Elon Musk!
It may be so corrupted, he could just buy the pieces out of it.
What's the stock?
Is it crap?
No, the stock is held up, actually.
Interesting.
I mean, it's not what it should be, but it's held up.
It's not collapsed.
But it seems to me that someone else has to... It's too sick.
And no one trusts it.
And all these bad stories... Anything that happens in aviation now is one of two things.
Boeing or DEI.
Both of which might not be true.
Or both.
But this might not even be true in every single case.
But that's, you know, that's beside the point.
I think we need something.
And Elon needs it.
He needs it.
Now he... I think...
If I were him, I think differently than you.
I'd be like, okay, first we're going to take away all the Boeing space business.
I'm going to get, get my, um, what is that thing called?
Have you gotten, I've been getting ads from him for that.
The mini Starlink is a, is a Starlink, uh, internet satellite that you can put in a backpack, take anywhere.
You have to buy it for like.
Yeah, it's a pretty phenomenal technology.
I don't know where he stumbled onto it.
600... Well, it's all military.
It's a military technology.
Well, first of all, the government cannot have one vendor.
No, they'll throw someone else in there for the mix.
It's a single point of failure.
So they have to have an alternative.
And so Boeing is supposed to be the alternative.
If not Boeing, who would it be?
Well, I'm just... Well, okay.
How about Bezos?
Where's Bezos in the mix?
Someone's got to start building planes.
There's no faith, no trust in what Boeing is doing anymore.
China definitely has them.
That's why I'm thinking Musk.
Speaking of China, there's this... let me see if I can find it here... Team U is under attack.
No, Timu and the other operation.
They're all in.
And so is Aliexpress.
Yes.
And then Europe.
They're under attack in Europe because the Europeans are letting this stuff flow.
Anything under 150 bucks is flowing into Europe duty free.
And the Europeans are looking at this flood of crap that's coming in.
And by the way, I recommended AliExpress as a cool thing, but do not buy any computer-related products from them at all, ever.
So there's these reports out there from outfits like GrizzlyReports.com that say, and this is basically the TikTok strategy.
We believe PDD is a dying, fraudulent company.
It's shopping app TMU is cleverly hidden spyware that poses an urgent security threat to U.S.
national interests.
Anything that China does that beats us, hello Amazon, they just say, oh, oh, national security risk.
Security threat.
Yeah, it's spying on you.
All these apps are spying on you.
You can't get it into the Apple App Store.
Yeah, try to get more spying than Google does.
Yeah, right.
Or Microsoft for that matter.
And then, and I read this, I read the about statement from this grisly research.
Um, we use our research and on-the-ground due diligence capacities to consult on a range of M&A transactions and structured investments.
Our ability to sniff out what others are trying to hide is valued by many who are risking their own capital.
We serve institutional clients, including family offices, hedge funds, investment banks, and operating companies.
Please!
That's not, you're not reporting, you're shorting.
Ooh, there you go.
Not reporting, you're shorting.
But I think something has to happen.
Something has to happen with Boeing.
And I think it's got to be, the trick is in the Spirit Airlines.
Maybe Lockheed can end up owning them.
Hmm.
Lockheed has experience in, if you remember the L-1011 and some of the other jets they used to have.
Yeah.
They're pretty good products.
The L-1011 was a great three-engine jet with dynamite.
Was it Trident?
I don't remember that one.
Yeah, it was a Trident.
Was it a 70s airplane?
I don't remember.
I think 80s.
Listen, while you're talking about China, I got an immigrant phone story that I want to get out of the way, which I always thought was screwy.
Never got into the mainstream media, but it's kind of, kind of interesting.
From finding gaps in the U.S.
border wall to explaining how to apply for asylum inside the U.S., an online network helping Chinese immigrants cross into the U.S.
illegally is coming to light.
All of this, discovered through a single smartphone left behind at the border.
NTD's Juliet Song has the details.
A telegram group chat that contributes to the border crisis.
It gives detailed instructions on how to cross the southern border and scripts for what to say when applying for asylum.
Its owner claims to be a cyber police officer in China.
Philip Lanziki is an investigative reporter at the Daily Caller.
He broke the story.
And it also acts as a hub for documents detailing specific Chinese illegal immigration paths to the United States.
It also contains documents that show as many as 15 border wall crossing points into the U.S., 12 of which are in California.
It started when he got a tip from a San Diego resident.
Who lives about 50 miles to the east of San Diego near Hukumba Hot Springs.
And he found a Chinese illegal immigrant's cell phone that had been discarded on the U.S.
side of the border.
Can you imagine, you're a Chinese immigrant, you get the cell phone, which by the way is a Soros trick, you use it for years, you know, getting people out of Turkey into Europe, with everything you needed, with the maps, the whole thing, everything was in it.
So it's not like some major league new thing.
You're a Chinese immigrant, you come in, you're like, you're in California, like, oh man, hold on a second.
Hello Lin, hello Lin, this is your cousin Yin.
They're peeing on each other here, man.
Get me out of here!
This was a mistake!
Oh, goodness.
What's in part two here?
The owner of the phone had been getting information from a telegram group chat called the American Self-Guided Tour.
Furthermore, the documents contain information that we can think of as scripts or templates for Chinese illegal immigrants to use in order to answer questions from border patrol agents and obtain asylum.
The discovery comes as illegal Chinese migrants continue to flood the southern border.
Eight months into fiscal year 2024, over 80,000 had crossed into the southern border, exceeding the total from last year.
That's according to CBP data.
A large number of them are military-age adult men, raising concerns among some U.S.
officials that they could engage in espionage activities for Beijing.
Back to the Telegram chat.
Its owner, Jack W., claims to be a cyber police officer in China.
NTD can't independently confirm Jack W.' 's identity.
It's unclear if he's backed by the Chinese state.
Though he does appear to toe the Communist Party line.
He bans and censors accounts that express opinions contrary to the Chinese Communist Party.
After the Daily Caller article came out, someone posted it in the group chat.
The owner then penned a message banning future political discussions.
Well, I'm a little disappointed in this, of course, Daily Caller.
They're just reporting on a report.
But this is obviously, this is, particularly when you bring in the military-aged men, this is a setup for Trump with his big, beautiful ships and submarines and bases as we mount a phony, baloney, non-violent war, non-kinetic war against China, which of course will be tariffs and, you know, the stuff that he loves doing.
But this is just set up.
This is just set up.
We need evil China.
Believe me, these Chinese are smart.
They're not coming.
What am I doing here?
In California?
I mean, they think they've come to America.
No, no, no, no, no.
Well, maybe they can leave California and go to Austin.
Is there a difference?
It's the same people.
I want to stay in... Well, that's because Californians went to Austin.
Correct.
I'd like to stay in the region.
Uh, Ewan Horowitz.
Horwich.
Horowitz.
DH Unplugged on Wednesday nights.
Tuesday nights, I'm sorry.
Tuesday nights?
Yeah, Tuesday nights.
I always listen to it on Wednesday, that's why.
Tuesday nights.
I try to listen almost every single week.
It's fun.
It's a good show.
It's good.
If you want to keep up on your finances without really, you know, having to know much, you know, it's good.
It's perfect for you.
Yes, it is.
It's perfect for people like me.
dhunplug.com.
So you guys have been tracking the yen and this, uh, you know, they, they banged it down to 1.50 and now it's, uh, well, we can't have a go over 1.60 and I just looked, it's now 1.61.50.
God.
So.
Yeah.
So now.
That means Toyotas are cheap.
So, but this next report made me think, is this something, I mean, Do they need to print money?
Do they need to print money to get themselves out of this?
I mean, what is the actual problem they have?
We'll play the report and maybe I can think of something.
Well, the report is kind of the payoff depending on your answer.
No, I don't think printing money would help.
That would make it worse.
Well, they're making it worse!
Japanese central bank officials breaking out the top hat and tails for a special occasion, the country's first new cash design in 20 years.
The government has begun sending new 10,000, 5,000 and 1,000 yen bills into circulation, with 7.5 billion new notes due out by next March.
Featuring historical champions of Japanese capitalism, They packed a lot of technology into this note to fight counterfeiting.
the bills have some state-of-the-art science of their own.
3D holographic portraits that turn their heads depending on the viewer's angle.
They packed a lot of technology into this note to fight counterfeiting.
It's quite amazing.
The rollout, though, comes with complications.
Japan's retail economy is not only more cash-based than some of its developed peers, it's also highly automated.
While 90% of ATMs, train ticket booths, and retail registers can accept the new bills, only about 20% of the country's ubiquitous vending machines can.
Roughly half the country's restaurants will need to upgrade their automatic tills, an extra headache for owners already struggling with inflation.
My bills are already going up every month.
Upgrading the payment machine has no real impact on sales, so it's only negative for us.
It's a very difficult situation.
As fancy as the new notes are, the government would like for them to take a smaller role in the country's economy, aiming for 80% cashless payments to boost productivity.
While digital payments have nearly tripled in Japan over the past decade, they still make up less than 40% of consumer spending.
I don't know what the strategy is, but they literally printed money!
Yeah.
What is that about?
Well, everybody has to get, it was obviously, it was a reaction to counterfeiting.
And I guess the money's plastic, I don't know, nobody said in that report whether it was plastic or not, but I'm guessing it's plastic.
It looks plastic.
I'm sure it's plastic, yeah.
Well, that's inflationary.
But that's inflationary by definition, right?
They print more money.
world but us but it is using plastic now including canada but that's inflationary by definition right they print more money they're supposed to bring money off to out of circulation and substitute with the new money that's because there's a continual process in all countries of grabbing money from the banks and swapping it out for new money and it's not necessarily inflationary if If the bank gives you $100 and you give them $100 back, it doesn't seem to be inflationary that way.
Yeah, but that wasn't in the report, so I don't know.
I don't know.
But that's the way it usually works.
Meanwhile, Bolivia is in a glut.
I think what's missing from your analysis is the fact that they're promoting this cashless stuff when the Japanese, like most Asians, don't like the idea.
Well no, that was in the report.
It was in the report.
I don't know how to analyze it.
That's why I asked you and I set you up as one of the experts.
I just don't think that people, I don't think cashless is a great idea.
No, it's a bad idea.
It's good for certain things.
So Bolivia has a problem.
They have a lot of climate change, or yeah, unfriendly stuff for climate change.
They have gas, and I guess gas is, people can't give it away.
I don't know much about Bolivia, but because they have, no one's buying their gas, they have a lack of dollars, and now the Bolivian government has taken an extraordinary step, as reported by France 24.
In the grip of economic crisis, fuel lines and spiraling prices the new normal, Bolivia is facing a severe shortage of the U.S.
dollars needed to import petrol and diesel.
Foreign currency reserves have fallen from $15 billion a decade ago to less than $2 billion in May.
They haven't disappeared entirely, but there are not many dollars.
There is some activity, obviously, but not like before.
When it came, we bought, we sold, but not anymore.
Desperate for solutions, the government of President Luis Arce is looking to cryptocurrency to ease the pressure, lifting a decade-old ban on transactions in digital money like Bitcoin.
This is actually a global issue.
Everyone is using that kind of payment.
Why?
Because it's an international strategy to move away from using the dollar.
The central bank says the move is aimed at modernizing Bolivia's payment system and putting its policies more in line with the rest of Latin America.
The region has seen a wider official acceptance of crypto in recent years, with its popularity growing in countries like Mexico and Brazil.
El Salvador has even made Bitcoin legal tender, requiring companies to accept it for payments.
Bolivia, meanwhile, is one of Latin America's poorest countries, despite sitting on large reserves of natural gas and lithium.
Gas exports abroad, though, have cratered, in part due to a lack of investment in new exploration, meaning fewer and fewer crucial U.S.
dollars coming in.
I just thought that was interesting.
Well, that brings me to a clip.
All right.
And it all has to do with, like, what's happening here, who's running the show that's allowing this to happen.
This is all bad for us.
Yes.
U.S.
Yes.
This is the WTF clip at the bottom.
It's the Shanghai Club.
I don't know anything.
Never heard of this.
I don't know what's going on with it, why it's even in business, what it's doing.
It's not BRICS.
It's another group altogether, but it seems like a lot of BRICS people are in it.
Is this the SCO?
And it's all designed to screw us over.
Is this the SCO?
A what?
The SCO?
Yes, CEO.
Yeah, what is it?
Shanghai Corporation.
The Shanghai Corporation.
Yeah, Shanghai Club of some sort.
Yeah, Shanghai Corporation Organization.
Yeah, this is the big... I've heard about this.
I'll play the clip.
Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping today at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit in Kazakhstan.
During the meeting, Putin said that ties between Moscow and Beijing are experiencing the best period in their history.
The club was founded by Russia, China, and Central Asian powers in 2001.
One of its goals is to counter the influence of the United States and its allies.
The organization has since expanded to include India, Iran, and Pakistan.
Leaders from various nations are set to attend this week's meeting.
UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres will also be present.
The gathering is scheduled to end tomorrow.
All I know about this is I hear the same thing.
We don't want the BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization to join together because then the dollar is screwed is what I'm hearing.
The fact that this has India and Pakistan, that's crazy, sworn enemies along with Russia and China and then a bunch of Indo-Chinese operations all gathering in Kazakhstan or one of these... Kazakhstan.
Kazakhstan.
Kazakhstan.
To plot, and it says it right in the report, to plot against the American dollar.
And then when you played that Bolivia clip, this is not good.
This is completely going off the rails thanks to our President Biden.
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, SCO, is a Eurasian political, economic, international security and defense organization.
Established by China and Russia in 2001, it's the world's largest regional organization in terms of geographic scope and population, covering approximately 80% of the area of Eurasia, 40% of the world population.
As of 2021, its combined GDP was around 20% of global GDP.
This is the successor to the Shanghai Five from 1996.
Yeah, this is definitely not good.
This is why I say, people will be begging, Trump, please come in, fix it!
This is, this is a, I agree with you, this is a real problem.
Not that we know.
You're not doing anything about it from what I can tell.
Oh no!
And that's what's going to make this Stepanopoulos interview interesting.
Want to take bets right now?
Is he going to tank it?
Is he going to tank Joe or is he going to save him?
They better!
Stepanopoulos is in the Council on Foreign Relations, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show.
Yeah, he'll be out.
And it's the Council on Foreign Relations, which is a bunch of globalists.
And none of us, none of them in favor of sovereignty of our country, but that's OK.
You can have your own opinion.
And they've all been against Biden since that debate.
And Stepanopoulos is not going to step out of line, is he?
And then make Biden look good?
No.
Even though Biden will have the questions and everything?
No.
You know, that's going to be true.
In fact, there may be a teleprompter behind Stepanopoulos' head that Biden's reading from, for all we know.
This will be even better than the debate.
It could be.
You got a Chevron deference clip, I see.
I do?
Well, it says, after effect, Chevron and Texas.
This is what I think we're going to start seeing more and more of.
This is the bull crap after effect because Chevron deference, as we talked about to death, You know, is a major change in the way that the government's going to operate.
It's not going to be as abusive as what it really amounts to as it used to be, to require like that poor fishing boat guy to spend, I don't know, 170 to 700 bucks for some... Per ship, per vessel, per vessel, per day.
Per day, which you can't afford if you're a fisherman.
This is an after effect, and we're going to get, and this is in Texas, this is going to be, we're going to hear more and more stories like this, which are phonied up stories.
Federal judge in Texas has delayed a ban on non-compete agreements for workers.
Companies often ask workers to sign such agreements to promise they won't join the employer's rivals or launch competing businesses.
The ban was approved by the Federal Trade Commission in April.
And set to take effect in early September.
But now it's been delayed by a federal judge who says the FTC lacked the authority to adopt such broad rules.
The judge says the delay is temporary and the court will rule on the merits of the ban before the end of August.
Yes, things are changing.
New sheriff in town and I have some Chevron deference clips.
Coming from CNBC, which means they kind of have to be honest, but what was most interesting about this is the person who was being interviewed about it is Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
Of course, he used to run the FDA.
He's on the Pfizer board.
He's on the Pfizer board.
So there's some interesting little deets in this.
Welcome back, everybody.
The Supreme Court has overturned a 1980s precedent known as the Chevron Doctrine that a decision could actually undercut federal agencies, including the FDA.
Joining us right now for more on this is former FDA commissioner and CNBC contributor, Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
And Dr. Gottlieb, thank you for being here.
I wanted to talk to you about this, not just in your role as the former FDA commissioner, but also as someone who used to work at the American Enterprise Institute, which takes the view that big government's not always a great thing.
And I just wonder how you are looking at this decision that was originally brought by fishermen in the Atlantic who were unhappy with having to pay for monitors who were watching over what they were hauling in.
Why don't you talk through how you see all of this and what it means?
Right, and I'm still at the American Enterprise Institute.
I love this!
This guy's on both sides of it!
This American Enterprise Institute who are against big government has this guy there who basically became a multi-millionaire because of big government?
Yeah.
That's... That's... The guy knows how to work it.
He does, he does.
Right, and I'm still at the American Enterprise Institute.
Look, I think a lot of conservatives viewed this as a way to constrain the administrative state, that regulatory agencies had expanded the scope of their authority into new areas that Congress hadn't clearly delineated, and now Agencies aren't going to be able to do that.
When you were a regulator, so when I was at FDA, if we issued rulemaking and we were interpreting the statute in areas of ambiguity to try to apply our regulatory oversight to new areas of supervision, new product areas, we generally, as long as we went through rulemaking, we generally felt that the courts would defer to us under Chevron doctrine.
And that was a reason to go through the rulemaking process so that that deference would attach.
Now that presumption no longer exists.
And so you're going to have to go back to Congress in many cases, get explicit authority if you want to extend the agency's jurisdiction into a new product area.
Now, with respect to FDA specifically, I would expect that the courts will still defer to FDA on fact-based decision making with respect to the drug approval process or medical product review court.
Courts and Congress has given the agency broad grants of authority in those areas to make fact-based, science-based decisions.
What I'm hearing here is that the FDA is really, this is going to be a problem because the FDA by themselves could allow rules for new categories of drugs and of course the drug industry is second only to the military industry and Gottlieb is no doubt one of the premier sales guys of this whole cabal.
So instead of talking about Pfizer or Moderna or Eli Lilly or any other big pharma company, he gives his examples in a case that I understand, which is the vape business, particularly Juul.
And my overall assessment is They completely screwed all the little guys who built the industry by saying, oh, you want to approve some vape juice?
That's going to be a million dollars per flavor, per nicotine level.
So put them all out of business.
Once they were gone, oh, Juul can just...
Come back now, it's okay, you can do your flavors again because you are the big guys and we'll just take your big money and we'll all have jobs later on.
So he uses this as an example and it's not looking pretty for the pharma industry.
Could you have gone after Juul the way you did and their marketing towards kids under this new ruling?
It's quite possible.
Right, so one of the rules that could very likely be challenged is the agency's efforts to try to regulate flavored vapes, for example.
A lot of what we did when we went after Juul was taking enforcement actions under the existing statute and regulations, which I think was pretty ironclad.
I think we were on firm ground.
And we were challenged in courts, and we prevailed, not under Chevron deference.
But I think that there have been some rules that... What?
So in other words, what he's saying, if you read between the lines, is that Chevron deference made no difference in the whole thing, but somehow it's bad.
Is that what he's going to do?
I think so.
Not under Chevron deference, but I think that there have been some rules that have been promulgated in the intervening years Particularly around flavored tobacco products where the agency could face a challenge.
That would be one of the more immediate places I think you'll see some litigation now as a result of this decision.
You know, you led at the top with the politics of this.
It's interesting to just go back to 1984 when this doctrine was first established.
It was actually conservatives that were fighting for it because they felt that the courts were second-guessing regulatory agencies.
Remember, those regulatory agencies were under the control of a Republican president at the time.
And they felt that the regulatory agencies should have more jurisdiction and not the courts.
And so now you see the politics of this reversed.
I love it.
I'm like, oh, it's really, it's the Republicans' fault, really, just so you know.
You know, that is a, that is disingenuous and borderlines on a, you know, lying by omission.
From Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
So let's just remind everybody.
Yes, please.
In 1984, the Reagan administration decided that the EPA was being too harsh with its rulings and its determinations, and it told them to back off, deregulate.
It was the deregulation era.
And so the EPA said, okay, well, we'll back off.
We'll do what you tell us to do.
And as they backed off, they got sued for backing off.
They got sued for deregulating by one of these pressure groups, one of these many environmentalist groups.
No, no, you can't go easy.
And that's when Chevron Deference came.
Well, the EPA should be able to do what it wants to do and government agencies should be able to determine the ambiguities.
And, you know, we don't need these court cases.
It was done for that reason.
He leaves that out of his will.
The conservatives were all for this!
Let's wrap it up with this final clip.
I was just reading.
I didn't even realize Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch was in the majority deciding this.
It was his mother, who was the former EP administrator, Ann Gorsuch, who actually made the decision that the Supreme Court upheld.
Another bullshit thing!
Neil Gorsuch's mom was off out of there two years before.
I think it's two years before.
She was not involved.
They like to throw that in there as another moment of irony, but at the time of the Chevron deference in 1984, she was not involved at that time.
She wasn't working there.
And Gorsuch, who actually made the decision that the Supreme Court upheld back in 1984, which is describing your point exactly, how it has changed flavors with them.
I guess my question is, I've had other people who are former FDA officials saying, look, this could be very bad because it could mean that Congress basically has to sign off on every decision that they're making, could really slow things down, especially when you consider that Congress can't even do its own job on time, which is coming up with the budget.
Are you concerned on that level?
And you mentioned yourself that Congress may have to rewrite some of these rules.
Do you see that happening?
How long would that take and how difficult of a job would that be to get through Congress?
Yeah, with respect to FDA, I think that there is a general view in Washington that they go through very careful rulemaking.
The agency issues a lot of regulations, and if you look at a lot of FDA statute, Congress gives the agency broad grants of discretion by directing it to develop guidance in specific areas.
So in areas where the Congress has explicitly said, we want you to develop a guidance to delineate what your regulatory oversight is going to be in this general area, I think If you read the recent Supreme Court decision, those would be perceived as general grants of authority back to the agency.
And so I think you're going to see more of that in statute.
I wouldn't be worried about the agency's decision-making around scientific matters, product review decisions.
I think it's going to be in areas where the agency has stepped in to regulate new areas of technology, where Congress didn't explicitly direct the agency to do that.
And so those aren't very common.
They do exist.
Laboratory-developed tests, as I mentioned, is one of the things that I would expect to be challenged quite immediately under this Supreme Court decision.
But as far as the day-in, day-out of the agency's scientific decision-making, I wouldn't expect those to be subject to challenges.
Another broad area where I think you're going to see more challenges is around the grants of exclusivity.
The FDA makes a lot of determinations about what exclusivity periods different products are entitled to.
Those are already the subject of a lot of litigation.
I think under this new recent Supreme Court ruling, you're going to see more challenges there.
I think that's the big one.
I didn't realize that that also was part of what FDA did.
I was like, oh, well, you know, you guys can have this for 10 years.
Man, we determined that through our scientific process.
Well, that has to do with the patents are limited in length and a money-making patent like Viagra, for example, however you pronounce it.
Uh, and some of these other, you know, real money makers, the cash cows of the farm, of Big Pharma.
They, there's patents that run out long ago, but they could somehow just say, yeah, there's some generic companies are allowed to make a copy and they sell it for the same price.
I mean, the whole thing is rigged.
The idea was that after the patent expires, you should be able to buy these drugs generically for a tenth of the price, and that was true for a while, until the generic drug companies were bought up by Big Pharma, and then they jacked up the price on the generics, and then they didn't allow other people in the market, and I think the FDA has something to do with that.
No, no, you guys can't make these.
It's all got to be made by these guys, or somebody in China, which is what's going on now with a lot of drugs.
This is bad.
I have one last clip.
It's a TikTok clip.
It's a big, big clip.
What?
Yeah, I know.
It's a TikTok clip.
Talk.
Talk.
TikTok.
I know.
It's a TikTok clip that has been going around.
It's now on YouTube, on the Shorts.
There's many of them.
It's been going on for a number of months, but it's really coming to a head.
And it's quite concerning since we have also received one of these products from Costco, no less.
We need to discuss.
Something bad is happening to the fruit in America.
Hundreds of people on TikTok are reporting that anytime they buy produce from the grocery store, it's super rubbery and almost feels fake.
It happened to this woman when she bought watermelon for her kids as it was super stretchy and inedible.
I cut watermelons for my kids and they're all bringing it right back saying they don't like the texture.
I can't believe I got one.
I got a rubbery watermelon.
And again when this person bought avocados in Texas that felt like Play-Doh.
It's even been happening to bananas.
And this popular TikToker swears that there was a fake blueberry made out of silicone in the pack of real blueberries that she allegedly bought from Costco.
Why is there a rubber blueberry in my toddler's snack?
And as a result, everyone in the comments is freaking out, saying that the fruits are being pumped with growth hormones.
And others are saying that they will only be shopping at farmers markets from now on.
As most of the time, the labels aren't accurate.
And anytime you go to a different country in Europe or South America, their produce tastes much more flavorful.
So this this this is a very weird one.
And I've been hearing about this mainly about avocados.
But you see watermelon.
I mean, you can't you can bend it.
You can't even break it when you bend it.
You can, yes, I researched this.
Oh, thank you!
This is why there's two of us.
It's quite easy to make a watermelon that way.
You refrigerate it for a long time.
It kind of desiccates in the refrigerator.
Refrigerators dry things out.
And I did it.
I had a watermelon about two or three weeks ago.
I had one dropped off actually.
I had a half of it.
It was just a normal watermelon.
I took a chunk of it and left it in the refrigerator long enough and it turned into exactly that same rubbery watermelon that woman has on the TikTok, which is Disingenuous bullcrap.
And the rubber blueberry, she said, if you listen to her carefully, she says she was grinding something away for some reason.
No, no, no.
It was in the garbage disposal.
That's what I was saying.
She's grinding something in the garbage disposal.
And the blueberry wouldn't grind up and you got it out of there and found it was a... If it was... I don't care what it was, if you have a decent garbage disposal, it's gonna beat the crap out of it and it's gonna go down the drain.
That's a fake.
The rubbery watermelons are fake.
I haven't dealt with... I don't know what the avocado thing's about.
This is bullcrap.
This whole report is bull crap.
It's a TikTok video, John.
It's not a report.
We threw avocados out that we got from Costco.
They were literally like rubber.
I'm not kidding you.
And Tina was aghast.
She's like, what is this?
There are bad avocados that hit the market.
They're usually not ripe.
Okay.
I mean, it's not unusual to find an avocado that's kind of rubbery because it looks fine inside, but it's got the right color and everything, but it's not ripe.
It doesn't have any softened characteristics.
You should have just let them ripen a little longer.
They wouldn't ripen.
Well, that's odd in itself, but... Well, there's the one other thing, is this Apeel?
Have you heard of the Apeel?
This is some kind of substance that... Oh yes, I had heard of it.
This spray... Yeah.
Yeah, that everyone's up against.
What are they putting it on?
I forgot.
Avocados!
Avocados!
Oh, well, I've never seen an avocado with it on there, so maybe there's something to that.
But I find that this whole thing seems to be very dubious.
I'm not sure what the point of it is.
Well?
To get people to go to farmers markets, I think, which is a good idea.
I don't have a problem with that.
Well, you heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen.
John C. Dvorak says your watermelon is safe to eat.
Your blueberries are safe to eat, and don't worry, the chicken on United is safe to eat.
I didn't say that.
You're putting words in my mouth.
Of course not.
Because that will bring us to the tip of the day later.
Alright, we'll get to that in a moment.
I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda!
We got tip of the day coming up we got some we got a night we got a day and we got a title upgrade we have some cool meetup reports and of course the birthdays John first will take us through to the 50s of our producers who donated some treasure in our value for value model.
Yes I do have a note I'm gonna have to read because it was a donate it's a Dame Hood note.
Oh good.
Eddie J. starts his office, though, from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, 167.90.
Terry Wentz in Langley, Washington, 125.
Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada, 123.45.
Judy Schwartz in Burney, Burney, Texas.
Oh, they have a welcoming a new human resource.
Taylor and Logan just had a baby girl, Darby Rose.
Welcome to Gitmo Nation, Darby Rose.
Hello, Darby.
105.35.
Hello, Darby.
Baron Ladekin in Houston, Texas.
Must be wet down there, $100.
John Robineau.
Are you getting any effects in your neck of the woods from the big hurricane?
Nothing yet, but I do have friends in Jamaica who are pretty worried right now.
John Robineau, $100.
Joan Pulse, I think.
Pulse, Pulse, Pulse.
She sent a note.
She's a dame, going to be a dame now, and so she sent in $100 and says, I've faithfully listened to every No Agenda since mid-2020 when my good friend Uh, my, my, my, uh, my, uh, it hit me in the mouth.
Your media deconstruction and wit have meant a lot for my sanity.
Thank you.
And thanks to all the talented producers who make the podcast so powerful.
It's truly the best podcast in the universe.
I also listen to DH Unplugged.
Uh, and Mo Fax.
Uh, with a mix of executive producer donations and monthly donations accounting below, I finally reached Dame Layaway Plan and now achieve status as Dame in Waiting.
If available, please grant me the title Dame Joan of Bark.
I think that's available.
It's a good one.
Yeah, nobody else has used it.
At the round table, I would like, you got your pen out?
Yep.
Piping hot dish of veal piccata with extra capers.
I haven't cooked that for a while myself.
I should do that.
That's good.
And a perfect wine pairing.
John, would you mind recommending a wine that is quite, that's quite expensive?
All right.
Hey, easy does it.
We're paying for the round table stuff.
Yeah, is this a white wine you need?
So let's have some, let's have some French, any vintage of Le Montrachet.
From anybody making it.
Let's do a Montrachet.
Let's do a 2016.
I think 2015 might even be better.
Chef, do we have a 2015?
Yes, we have a 2015.
Entering gamehood is quite a celebration.
Montrachet, that's your wine of the day.
It's probably, I'm guessing in today's market, $3,000.
Hopefully this note arises... Take that back to the cellar!
Hopefully this note arrives in time for my birthday on June 30th.
I don't think... Oh, I forgot to put her on the birthday list.
Oh, okay.
Joan of Bark.
Hold on a second.
Joan of Bark.
Joan of Bark and, uh... She would like... When is she celebrating?
The 30th.
Okay.
Of June.
Oh, belated.
Okay.
She's never been de-douched.
Oh!
You've been de-douched.
And she wants a biscuit for her birthday.
Oh, man.
Sorry about that.
No, it's okay.
It's just a very expensive daming with that wine.
They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
There's your biscuit on your birthday.
We could back it off, but I think... That's your future president, everybody.
Well, let's move it to a 2005.
There you go.
That's cheaper?
You know, it's probably around the same price.
And it'll be a stunner.
Okay, 2005 Le Montrachet.
Le Montrachet, lovely.
As old as it is, it's probably killer.
It needs to be removed from the cellar, it's getting too old.
Yeah, okay, we're taking it out.
Alright, onward with Kelly Spongberg of the Spongberg clan in Rocky Mountain, Alberta.
A hundred.
Julie Williams in Huntington Beach.
100.
Joe Dirks in Amsterdam.
96-26.
It's a Wobo donation.
For July 6, the Wobo Meetup.
It's coming up.
Sir Brian Tobiasen in Gardner, Kansas.
88-08.
The special boob.
Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.
8-0-0-8.
There he is.
He's not missing a day.
He's the Archduke of Luna, by the way.
Edward Owens in Alameda, California, 8008.
And I believe he has achieved knighthood status.
He says, John Adam, after over a year of boob donations, I have finally achieved knighthood status.
I want to be known as Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda, the island of boobs.
I'd like tacos at the round table and to hear my knight name followed by the F-35 guy.
Thank you for what you do.
I look forward to each and every show.
Your pal, Edward Owens, soon-to-be surf fast Eddie of Alameda, the Island of Boobs.
We'll see you on the podium.
Sir Dan the Quiet Man in Alpharetta 8008.
Boobs today.
Marcella Barden in Munday, Texas.
7865, that's a birthday coming up.
Aaron Daniels in Norman, Oklahoma.
77.
Dedooshing necessary?
Necessary.
You've been de-douched.
Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, New Hampshire, 76.
JD in Elkhorn, Nebraska, 74, 24.
Anne-Anne Ronde-Pierre Rikzu in Trumbull, Connecticut, 74, 24.
That's our July 4th donations, I guess.
Yeah, I guess so.
Dusty Klenenden in Arlington, Texas, 71, 76.
John Hoiber Borr.
Hoiber.
Hoiber.
Hay Farmer.
Hay Farmer.
Mr. Hay Farmer in Bristol, Tennessee, 7004.
Sir Becoming Heroic in Sherrerville, Indiana, 6886.
That's jiggly boobs, according to him.
I don't quite get that, but okay, I'll think about it.
Mike in Michigan, 6393.
Uh, he needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Jen of the Woodland Store in Hebron, Connecticut, uh, Kentucky.
5808.
Another birthday.
Bork the Dog in Stanhope, New Jersey.
Woof! 5798.
Scott Mengel in Exton, Pennsylvania, $55.55.
We beat Medicare, he says.
Brian Furley, $55.10.
Sir Slipping Time in Cherry Valley, California, $55.10.
He just got his first hour in an R-22.
He said it was great!
Yes, we called it the Bone Shaker.
How'd you go about earning your helicopter license, Adam?
Well, I was rich at the time.
Sir Dancing Mike in Maryville, Tennessee, $54.54.
Another birthday call out to his smoking hot wife, Dame Denise.
Miles in Charlottesville, Virginia, $54.20.
Heather Harper in Lubbock, Texas, $53.33.
John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, $52.72.
These are all actually $50 donors.
Samantha Lumadoo in Pittsburgh, $52.72.
And Diane Riello in Franklin, Tennessee, $52.72.
The rest are $50 donors.
I'll just do the name and location.
Starting with Jordan Hueno in Salem, Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado, Jordan Tierney in Oro, South Dakota, Foster Birch in New York City, Matt Frazee in St.
John's, Florida.
Daniel LaBoi in Bath, Michigan.
Jacob Martinez in El Monte, California.
James Schermetta, Sir James in Napa Nock, New York.
Kurt Patrick in Naimo.
I like Naimo, but I say Naimo, and I'm corrected.
One way or the other, it doesn't matter.
I can't pronounce it.
Chris Conacher in Anchorage.
Michael Felix and Modesto.
And last on our list in Roseburg, Oregon is Leslie Walker.
And I think she might need a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
She got it.
And thank you to all these donors.
We want to thank everyone who came in under $50 as well.
We do not mention anyone under that level for reasons of anonymity.
We see you.
$49.99 is appreciated very much.
And of course, anyone who comes in with the lower amounts, it is all highly appreciated.
It's how the value for value model works.
The sustaining donations are critically important.
You can make one up yourself, as you can see from this list.
We have people who eventually become knights and dames through doing that.
And it's really worth it.
That's when you get the beautiful Cignet ring and you get the status at the meetups.
And we just appreciate anyone and everyone supporting the best podcast in the new universe, your No Agenda Show.
For all of you, here is a goat karma.
You've got karma.
Noagendadonations.com.
become a producer today.
And we congratulate belatedly Jonah Bark, who celebrated her birthday Marcella Barden turns 60 today.
Happy birthday.
Nice day to celebrate with Rockets.
Jen of Woodlandshire turns 50 today.
Erica Koenig wishes her human resource Hogan a very happy one.
He is turning 8.
It's either today or tomorrow, depending on where you are, because they're in China.
And Sir Dancing Mike wishes his smoking hot wife Dame Denise of Maryville a very happy one.
She turns 54 tomorrow.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
And there she is, Dame Kelly of The Longest Island becomes a baronetist today.
Thanks to our upgrade of another aggregate of $1,000.
We congratulate you, Dame Kelly, and thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
Today, it's been a couple of weeks, a couple of shows actually, since we've had a dame or a knight, and we have one of each.
So I'm going to draw the big 4th of July, July, July, the July, the 4th of July blade, and do you have one?
Here you go, I got one.
Independence Day blade it is.
Joan Paulson, Edward Owen, step right up.
Both of you are becoming members of the roundtable, the Noah, Jen, the Knights, and Dames, thanks to your contributions to the best podcast in the universe.
And I am very proud to pronounce the K-V as Dame Joan of Bark and Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda and the Island of Boobs.
What in the world is this?
I did not forget you, brother.
Head on over to NoAgendaRings.com after you enjoy what we have at the round table.
By request, piping hot dish or veal piccata with extra capers and 2005 Le Montrachet and some tacos.
Along with that we have the...
Love the fare of mutton and meat.
At noagenderings.com, right there, you'll be able to find all the information that you need to send off to us, including your ring size.
You get that beautiful Signet ring, which you can use to seal your important correspondence with, with the sealing wax, which I was just reading, by the way, that the United States Postal Service may send you a warning if you send wax-sealed envelopes through the mail.
I get quite a few of those.
I never get a warning.
Same here.
I've never gotten a warning about them at all, but they're saying, oh no, because people do that for, you know, for wedding invitations and for, you know, all kinds of ceremonies.
And apparently the United States Postal Service gets stuck in the works.
Well, we have lots of mail carriers here, so maybe Sir TJ the Wrathful or someone else can let us know what that's all about.
And once again, congratulations to our brand new dame.
That is Dame Joan of Bark and our brand new knight, Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda, the Island of Boobs.
And whenever we say that name, we have to end it with a scream.
Well, we do have a meetup taking place today, but before we get to that, we have a couple of meetup reports.
The first one is from Southwest New Hampshire, the Keene meetup.
This is the meetup report for Keene, New Hampshire.
There was five of us.
We had about a three hour long amygdala shrinking discussion about COVID.
But we didn't talk about Trump or Biden.
It's true!
What do you think about Biden?
Don't eat me, Bojiden!
It's so scary!
So scary!
What about Trump?
Don't eat me, Bojiden!
What about Trump?
Don't eat, don't squiz me!
I didn't spot any spooks or anything like that.
He's got a great voice.
That voice was perfect, we could use more of that.
Yeah, we want more material from that voice before it changes.
Final Meetup Report is the Dallas Forth Worth Report, and this of course was the birthday meetup from the Dirty Jersey Whores!
Oh, we need some nap pops.
We're coming to you from Dallas, Texas!
It's the Dirty Jersey Whore Meetup!
Birthday Celebration!
It was the bomb!
In the morning, we're coming to you from Dallas, Texas.
Lee Harvey's.
Matthew.
Future Knight of the Black Bayou.
On the spot.
This is Sir Chris from Sachse, Texas.
In the morning.
Hey, this is Chris in Dallas.
Adam, I think I have a crush on the fat lady.
Is she single?
You got her number?
Be my wingman?
Hey, John, let's start a harmonica jam band.
Oh brother, I dropped it.
Is it still going?
We're still going.
You're gonna have to edit it.
This is dirty, dirty whore.
Apparently somebody's birthday was today.
It's not mine.
I don't know what you're all talking about.
We'll fix all this in post.
Don't worry about it.
We'll do it live!
Stop the hammering!
Hey, anyway, we're coming to you from Dallas, Texas.
We're having a great time.
We're having a birthday celebration in the morning, slaves.
I'm having a great time, and I hope you are too.
No Agenda Nation 2024.
Can't beat that.
Whoops, I didn't hit record, sorry.
Nah, be honest about it.
Who wouldn't want to join a party like that?
That's what a lot of the No Agenda meetups are like.
They really are.
You should join one at least once in your life.
I guarantee you'll want to go back.
Now today you could be at the longest standing member London meet-up, which may be, they may be all hammered by now.
That was at the Real Ale Way.
This of course was Gwyf's meet-up in Kent, so hopefully we'll get a meet-up report from them.
Gwyf was always good about the promos.
Tomorrow, in Perth, Australia, the WA is Western Australia, not Washington meet-up.
Hey, we know that.
7 o'clock Australian Western Standard Time, Gage Road, Fremantle Brewery, in Fremantle, Western Australia, not Washington.
Please send us a meet-up report.
We'd love the reports from overseas.
On Saturday, the Fears Freedom meet-up in Old Town.
That's 3 o'clock in Home and Away in San Diego, California.
And on Saturday, the Barbecue Musique and Vueur That's the Wobo Meetup that's been promoted with donations.
Four o'clock Dutch OG time in Tuinpark Lissabon.
That's in Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
Sir Joe Dirks, who has been donating to promote it, will be organizing that.
Many more awesome locations to visit for your meetups, including Trinidad and Tobago coming up.
What else is there?
Awesome places like Fort Wayne, Indiana.
There's all kinds of great places you can go to a meetup.
You can find them at noagendameetups.com.
It's all producer-organized, so y'all pitch in, and you make it work, and you make friends, and you start telegram groups, and you all keep Gitmo Nation on the map.
If you can't find one near you, start one yourself!
noagendameetups.com!
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you want me.
Triggered on hell's flame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Now we always like to choose a fun ISO to end the show with.
And you win today, John.
Just like on the last show, I won because I have zero ISOs.
I have a lot.
I know, so let's hear them.
Well, let's start with good luck.
Good luck and God bless.
For real, for real.
For real, for real.
Okay.
That's not bad.
Then we'll go to greener.
Greener, healthier, and more effective.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I like that.
Sorry, I liked it.
Yeah, that's kind of... Grow and grow.
Watch your hose grow and grow.
I like the hose growing and growing.
Yes, I like that one.
And the other one is love hose.
I love my hose.
Okay, these are good!
Those are both commemorating the Gay Pride event in San Francisco.
Yes, yes, no doubt, no doubt.
Then I got the idea, well you know this is the 4th of July and the thing to do is you gotta be careful you don't blow your hand off, so I thought it's stay safe.
Ending would be perfect.
And I wanted to introduce it with a medley of the Stay Safe, not as an ISO, but as a medley to remind us what was going on during COVID on some of the networks.
Oh, goodness.
Yes.
I wanted to play the Stay Safe medley.
Haley Birdwill, thank you so much for being here.
And please stay safe.
Congressman Adam Schiff, thank you so much for being here tonight.
And please stay safe.
Colorado Secretary of State Jenna Griswold, thank you so much for being here tonight.
Please stay safe.
NBC News correspondent Priscilla Thompson, thank you so much for being here tonight and please stay safe.
Lee Merritt, thank you so much for your time tonight.
Please stay safe.
Timothy O'Brien, thank you so much for being here tonight.
Please stay safe.
State Representative Jeremy Gray, I want to thank you for your time tonight and please stay safe.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was literally what it was, wasn't it?
It was ridiculous.
And we had our own, which was Stay Safe with Jesus.
Well, that's what I dug up.
So I have two.
There's actually two of them.
I forgot this one.
The first one is the yell.
Stay Safe!
Stay Safe yell.
Yeah.
Which I thought was a bit much.
And there's another version of it, which is a softer version, which is what I'd like to see.
It's just a regular Stay Safe.
I don't have... I don't...
You should have Stay Safe Iso, Stay Safe Medley, Stay Safe Yell.
Let's see.
Oh, okay.
I think this is the one.
Stay Safe!
That one?
Yeah.
Stay Safe!
Unless that was the yell.
Yeah.
Nothing kind of beats the... I love my hoes!
Nothing beats the hose!
That's right everybody, it's time for John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day as we leave you with some good advice, a tip, something that you can use for your travels, for your life, for your world.
John, what do you have for us today?
Well, since we brought it up earlier in the show, is that if you're on a flight, you're flying around the world, you're going overseas, especially on the flight out, not so, not as important on the way back because you'd be at homesick.
Don't eat shrimp on an airplane.
Avoid shrimp on the flight out.
And avoid fruit on the flight out.
If I recall correctly, the original warning was even more dire.
It was, don't eat seafood the night before you leave.
That's another one.
Don't eat seafood the night before you leave.
Don't eat shrimp on the plane.
Don't eat fruit on the plane.
Yes, don't eat, don't, in other words, don't go out and have an oyster dinner the night before your flight.
And don't eat the chicken on the plane.
Tim of the day.
Just the tip.
Just the tip, everybody.
John C. Dvorak.
Fabulous, as always.
That wraps up our, uh, we didn't have to do it, but we love you, so we did anyway, um, July 4th episode.
And we're working throughout the whole July 4th weekend.
We'll be here on Sunday, of course.
We do have a, uh, a patriotic Wink wink, nudge nudge.
End of show mix, Sir Ned Wood, we've got...
Sir Chris Wilson, we've got Sir Seat Sitter and Professor Jay Jones, all laying it on ya!
And the stream also continues right after we're done here.
If you're listening on your modern podcast app or at TrollRoom.io, we have Jim Briney, Congressional Dish.
This is episode 295.
We didn't actually talk about it much today.
The consequences of the Supreme Court!
We'll have to see what she says about it.
Coming to you from the not-so-exploding Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region No.
6, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we may have some fireworks tonight that actually get through the fog, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Happy Birthday, America!
Enjoy your Fourth of July, everybody!
Remember us at knowagenthedonations.com.
Until Sunday, adios, mofos!
A-hooey, hooey!
And such!
I'm going to get more muscle room.
I'm going to get more muscle room.
I'm going to get more muscle room.
Howdy, y'all.
It's me here again with a quick reminder about what's really important on this Fourth of July.
You see, a lot of people are proud to be Americans.
Thank you very much.
Howdy, y'all.
It's me here again with a quick reminder about what's really important on this Fourth of July.
You see, a lot of people are proud to be Americans, and that's wrong.
If tomorrow the orange man was gone, I'd be happy with my life.
Amen.
After the communist win, everything will be just fine.
Hittin' Nazis with crowbars and with cement milkshakes.
Cause the fag is an Asian fascist.
It's not like Nazis can't be gay.
And I'm proud to be an antifa man rising up against free speech.
And I won't forget the M5Ms for always defending me and I'll gladly stand up and throw at you a balloon that's full of pee.
Cause it's the only route to stop the orange man from being president for eternity.
Remember folks, America sucks, and it's never too late to start punching Nazis and violently assaulting Republicans, centrists, journalists, and anyone who made Hillary lose by voting for Jill Stein.
We are at war with Russia.
We are already on the precipice of losing the freedom and independence of the nation.
We are no longer a free people.
The CIA and FBI and Homeland Security were beholden to scum!
They said something.
A man for whom the Russians interfered with our election.
Russian scum!
Why does the West hate Russia?
This is a reality.
The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread.
The firehose of lies that is Donald Trump.
The tantamount to treason.
The most immoral decisions in the history of the free press.
And it seems like Russia is in on it.
The usurper has no validity.
A man whom the Russians wanted to run our country for them.
What is with this deep-seated hatred of Russia?
The decision to not fact-check by CNN were the most immoral decisions in the history of the free press.
Tantamount to treason.
Act of war.
How dare you?
CNN should...
Stay woke!
Fire everybody.
I think that sounds pretty good.
And burn the goddamn place to the ground.
Stay woke!
CNN should... Fire everybody.
And burn the goddamn place to the ground.
CNN should... Where's the AI to fix all that, huh?
Shut up already!
Fire everybody.
Science!
And burn the goddamn place to the ground.
It was about Russia!
How dare you!
At some point tonight, seal off the buildings, go off the air in shame, Why does the West hate Russia?
