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1671: It's The Boyfriend

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	Let's have a meeting!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, June 23rd, 2024.
	This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1671.
	This is No Agenda.
	Doing the hot tour.
	And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.
	6.
	In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody knows that tea is good for you.
	I'm John C. DuBois.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	No it's not.
	What do you mean it's not?
	I think tea is good for you.
	This is not a fact.
	Yeah it is.
	Ask any Chinese person.
	Okay.
	You got a lot of them around there.
	Have you heard about your Chinese person in Oakland?
	She's Hmong.
	She's Hmong?
	Oh, she's not Chinese?
	She's Hmong?
	She's Hmong, which is a Cambodian ethnic group.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought it was pretty... I thought the whole... I thought the whole story... You want to hear the story?
	Actually, I clipped it for you.
	Yeah, you should play it, because I don't think anybody knows it.
	No, this is a part of the season of reveal, as... Seems more like the season of corruption, but go ahead.
	It's been 48 hours since the FBI raided the home of Oakland Mayor Shang Tao, along with at least two other locations, and the mayor is nowhere to be seen.
	We still don't know exactly what the FBI was looking for.
	Yesterday we heard the mayor's side of the story, sort of.
	She did hire an attorney, former prosecutor Tony Brass.
	He suggested that there is no evidence that Tao is actually the target of the FBI investigation, and that she had no idea it was even happening.
	It was my assumption.
	That she would have been asked for information or documents or devices if they were needed.
	And that she must have refused that if they got a search warrant.
	So I'm quite surprised that the search warrant was the first she'd heard of this investigation.
	The optics are bad, but the fact is that she is going to cooperate with the investigation and she would have done that in the first place.
	Brass also said Mayor Tao is working from a remote location because of the media circus around the raids, and that she will release a statement sometime next week.
	So what's great about this story is, so she is a Hmong, what did you say?
	Hmong Tao, Chak Tao, what is she?
	Hmong. Hmong. Hmong.
	What is the difference between...
	H-M-O-N-G.
	What is the difference between Chinese and Hmong?
	Hmong are Cambodian, which is anything but Chinese.
	It's Southeast Asian.
	All that whole area is not Chinese.
	Do they eat sushi?
	No, I don't think so.
	All right.
	But beside the point, the Hmong were kind of escaped from Cambodia during the period of Pol Pot and other situations.
	There's lots of Hmong in the San Francisco Bay Area.
	In fact, if you go to a farmer's market, two or three of the stalls are Hmong and they're great if you chat with them.
	They're great people.
	I mean, the Hmong are great people.
	This has got to be a huge humiliation to the Hmong population in the San Francisco Bay Area because this woman is apparently corrupt.
	And everyone kind of suspected that.
	But wait, but wait, there's more.
	It's not her.
	Yeah, this is the follow-up story.
	It's not her.
	It's the boyfriend.
	Yeah, you didn't know that, did you?
	Well, I didn't.
	Actually, I didn't hear this part of it, but I can say this is that they've been trying to recall her long before this investigation began because she's got some screwiness about her.
	Yeah.
	Including that, you know, having some hard on regarding the ex-chief of police and some other issues with the police department.
	And and there's been a recall going on for at least six months and so there's the yeah maybe the boyfriend's got something to do with it but she's suspicious.
	Well we have a we have a former chief of staff who is blowing the whistle and they've got great video of her I guess during her Her election, or I guess when she was chosen, you know, elected as mayor, and he's behind her, leaning over, like, whispering in her ear, like, yeah, yeah, tell him this, tell him this.
	Now, it helps that he's black.
	It just makes the whole thing fabulous.
	Renia Webb worked closely with and had access to Shane Tao that few people had for a year and four months.
	Webb served as Tao's right-hand person, working as chief of staff when Tao was the District 4 council member.
	Webb says she volunteered and spent countless hours on Tao's mayoral campaign in 2022.
	She says she also led Tao's transition team after Tao won the election.
	A lot of what's coming out now is the reason I resigned shortly thereafter winning the election.
	She was more sad than surprised about FBI agents raiding Tao's home on Thursday.
	I wasn't surprised.
	I was like, finally.
	Finally, the truth is coming out.
	Webb accuses Tao's boyfriend, Andre Jones, of being the mastermind and running pay-to-play schemes during Tao's campaign for mayor and after she won.
	I had found out that Andre, her boyfriend, was promising people jobs in our administration, promising people appointments on different commissions and boards from out of the mouths of people that told me.
	They were promised positions.
	They were promised board positions.
	And at the mouth of what they would always say, Andre, you know, that was who they would say, Andre promised me this.
	Webb claims Jones was controlling and calling the shots.
	She says Tao went along with him.
	It's sad.
	He's making her do things, pushing her to do things that I don't believe she would do otherwise.
	Blame it on the boyfriend!
	Blame it on the boyfriend!
	Oh, man.
	Blame it on the black guy.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Oh, brother.
	He looks pretty shady, I gotta tell ya.
	They got good video of him, like, whispering in her ears.
	Yeah, no, blame it on the boyfriend.
	Yeah, it's great.
	It's fantastic.
	We are.
	It'll shake out eventually.
	They've raided a number of places.
	I think his house may have been one of them, but this has been going on for about a week or two.
	She's not to be found now, she's blown the coop.
	Remote location.
	She's in Cambodia.
	Yeah, she's in Cambodia.
	So, we're kind of in the summer doldrums, although right now it's the B teams, most of the New York elite, certainly the news elite, they're all off to the Hamptons.
	We've got July 4th weekend coming up.
	We're only going to really focus on one thing, which is all the debate.
	So all the news is the debate.
	The debate.
	The Trump in the debate.
	And so instead of doing what we used to do during these summer months, I remember quite well when I was a kid, and I think you remember this as well, when we hit the summer, it would be hot, and we'd show, you know, pictures of people at the beach, kids at the swimming pool, you got some poor kids in the fire hydrant, exactly, exactly, and be like, wow, it's hot, and maybe there would be a joke, wasn't it, Who was it that said Sons of Beaches?
	Remember that whole summer when it was, was that Reagan?
	Or was that... One of the presidents called someone on an open mic a son of a B. And then, you know, all the weather guys are going, oh, it's going to be Son of the Beaches!
	I don't remember that at all.
	I'll have to look at that.
	I'll have to look that one up.
	So instead, They're so lazy now.
	We got COP 29 coming up in November in Baku.
	So instead of just showing the fun little, you know, swimming pool, the beaches, you know, it's everyone having a good time.
	It's hot.
	That's right.
	It's hot.
	The old frying an egg on the pavement in New York.
	I mean, this is what we used to do in the summer.
	No, now it's extreme heat climate change!
	Breaking overnight, Amtrak says two train lines between Newark, New Jersey and New York City are cancelled until further notice due to an equipment failure.
	That will surely take a toll on today's commute during the extreme heat.
	Service has been restored along the rest of the Northeast Corridor after yesterday's power failure which shut down service.
	Meanwhile, metro operators in the Washington, D.C.
	area had to slow down their trains, concerned the extreme heat would expand the rails.
	And no relief today.
	Highs could hit 96 in parts of the Northeast, and we're expecting mostly 90-degree readings across the Midwest.
	Parts of the upper Midwest are dealing with extreme flooding, including Minnesota, and more storms are expected today.
	We'll check your forecast in just a few moments.
	It's all extreme, it's so hot, even though it's three weeks later than normally these hot temperatures come in, we can still make it sound like there's something, a crisis going on.
	Ginger Strass is off on the dangerous temperatures and the air quality alerts in parts of the country.
	Ginger, good morning.
	Hey, good morning.
	Here in New York City, we had our first official 90 of the season.
	90?!
	Oh, no!
	And while that was about three and a half weeks behind average, look at this shot from New York City.
	Now that we've broken the seal of 90 degrees from WABC, we can see from the helicopter there, it's hazy, hot, and humid.
	We should stay above 90 throughout the weekend, which would be then our first official heat wave.
	I mean, it's later than usual, but it's a heat wave.
	It's our first 90.
	We've unsealed it.
	Oh, no!
	Well, you know, we've topped all this in California.
	Oh, you have?
	Yeah, well, I mean, right now it's cold out, of course, you know, it's typical.
	But no, we decided to pass a law.
	You got a law?
	What kind of law did you get?
	Play the clip.
	California law.
	Hold on a second.
	California law.
	And a new rule is in effect in California protecting people who work indoors from dangerous heat.
	And Piers Alejandro Borunda has more.
	More than a million people in California work jobs indoors that expose them to the kind of heat that can make people sick.
	Tim Shaddix is the legal director at the Warehouse Worker Resource Center in Southern California.
	In the states, thousands of warehouses... In the worst places we've seen, you know, in the summer, those workplaces are kind of, they're like a tin can baking in the sun.
	Employers will now have to provide water and cool-down spaces for employees when it's above 82 degrees.
	Past 87, they'll have to find ways to cool workspaces... Wait, wait, stop it, stop it!
	They have to do this at 82 degrees.
	Do you realize that people go to Hawaii because it's 82 degrees all the time there?
	Yeah, it's beautiful.
	But now if it's 82 degrees, which is like the perfect temperature, you know, if you want to just enjoy your life.
	No, no, now it's like a disaster.
	Yeah.
	And then if it's 87, oh, we don't know what we're gonna do.
	Employers will now have to provide water and cool down spaces for employees when it's above 82 degrees.
	Past 87, they'll have to find ways to cool workspaces with tools like fans or air conditioning or adjust work requirements.
	What did she say at the end?
	Fans, air conditioning, or just work?
	Fans or air conditioning.
	Or just work requirements.
	Just work requirements.
	Oh, just work requirements.
	In other words, it's slow down.
	It's like a union slow down.
	Slow down!
	Got her boots on the ground from one of our producers.
	He says, you know, this is Josh.
	I was listening to 1670 in the New York heat wave as someone who's worked outside for 14 years in southern Arizona.
	I have little boots on the ground.
	Arizona, now that's hot!
	Here we go.
	When this heat dome passed through, it was toasty, sure, but local news and radio blasted out excessive heat warnings and dangerous heatwave.
	What was the high in Tucson on those days? 102.
	I've lived in Tucson since 2007, ridden motorcycles year-round.
	Sure, it's warm.
	But I know for a fact, the first time I heard an excessive heat warning, it was issued when we were going to hit 118.
	The last few years, still working outside, I've noticed excessive heat warnings being issued over 110.
	Always thought to myself, that's strange.
	That seems lower than it used to be.
	But I could never remember at what point they issued the heat warnings.
	Well, since it was registered in my mind at 110 when they issued the 102 excessive heat warning a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't believe it.
	That's a nice day in the middle of summer for Tucson.
	Yes, I agree.
	Yes, I've been noticing those temperatures.
	Everybody's noticing this.
	Yeah, it's a scam.
	This is ridiculous.
	The news media is off the rails.
	Well, we need to keep our eye on this because this is where they're gonna get us with this nonsense.
	And we're laughing at it, but we can't just laugh about it because it's killing the newcomers!
	Parts of the U.S.
	and Mexico are in the grip of a searing heat wave, with the Northeast United States seeing record high temperatures.
	On the southern border with Mexico, an arid climate already means hot weather, but now that heat has turned deadly for migrants attempting to cross the border.
	Migrants.
	No, not even illegal migrants.
	Just migrants.
	Just migrants.
	Yeah, it's killing the newcomers.
	They're dying out there of heat exhaustion.
	And at the United Nations, they have a survey which shows something that I don't think anybody believes.
	The recent heat waves sweeping across Europe, Asia, and now the eastern half of the U.S.
	are no surprise to climate scientists and UN officials.
	We need an exit ramp off the highway to climate hell.
	This week's heat dome is centered over Maine and New Brunswick, Canada.
	So that's where the most intense departure from average is going to occur.
	The record temperatures across Asia, Europe, and the Middle East have reportedly caused hundreds of deaths, including many Muslim pilgrims attending the Hajj at the Grand Mosque in Mecca.
	Saudi State TV reported temperatures hitting nearly 52 degrees Celsius.
	What we concluded from this study is that human-induced warming from burning fossil fuels made the five-day maximum temperature event about 1.4 degrees hotter than it used to be in the pre-industrial period.
	A new UN report surveyed more than 75,000 people across 77 countries.
	80% or 4 out of 5 people globally want their governments to take stronger actions to tackle the climate crisis.
	Over half of people said they think about the climate crisis either daily or weekly.
	And two-thirds say that they incorporate decisions around their lives, where they live, where they work, what they buy, by taking into account the climate crisis.
	Now, do they take into account the climate crisis, or do they take into account the weather?
	I'm gonna think it's the weather.
	Oh, look at this cute top!
	Hmm, let me think, that would be perfect for the climate crisis this summer.
	This is so ridiculous.
	You know, the other thing is about these deaths at the Hajj.
	There's always people dying there.
	And they're usually from out of town because the locals in the Middle East... They're from out of town.
	Are you from around here?
	They're not from around there.
	They're from Indonesia.
	You know, the big Muslim country in the world is Indonesia.
	And there's other countries that have a lot of Muslims.
	They go to the Hajj once in their life.
	Yeah.
	And then they stay out.
	They've never been to the Middle East.
	They don't know.
	You don't even go outside between, I think it's like 11.30 and 4.
	And it's unbelievable.
	They had a lot of reports on the BBC when I was still over there.
	I'm back in Texas, obviously, when I was still over there.
	And it was about these people who had died.
	And they had horrible stories, like some grandma who was 72 called with her last dying breath, called her daughter, you know, as she dies on the phone.
	And what most of them were talking about was that they had, you know, illegal tour operators who weren't officially sanctioned to bring people over to the Hajj.
	You know, it's like some people scamming him and like not giving him water and shelter and... Wow!
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, well they're basically murderers.
	So, I just want to stick with the climate crisis here.
	Joy Reid had an interesting twist on the money scamming being done off of this.
	But we begin tonight with the lucrative politics of climate collapse and the greed that is literally letting our country burn.
	Okay.
	So, instead of people ripping us off for this nonsense, she's just twisted it around.
	I think that's what we call gaslighting.
	Today, millions of Americans from Iowa to Maine are suffering through heat warnings, watches, or advisories.
	Hold on, stop.
	She's correct.
	We're only suffering through the warnings, not the actual heat.
	That's exactly what I noticed.
	They're suffering from heat warnings!
	And advisories.
	I am suffering from that, yes.
	Today, millions of Americans from Iowa to Maine are suffering through heat warnings, watches, or advisories.
	Cities across half of the country, like Chicago, St.
	Louis, Indianapolis, Detroit, Philly, and now New York, are hitting temperatures exceeding 90 degrees Fahrenheit.
	Oh no!
	Oh no!
	It feels closer to 100.
	This feels like it has got to stop.
	I mean, this feels like... Oh, that's a good point.
	That has become a common occurrence, this feels like.
	Feels like.
	And it's like, do you really know the difference between 92 and 100?
	And why does it feels like?
	Is that because of the wet bulb?
	Is that what we're back to now?
	Feels like?
	That's what I'm guessing.
	Are hitting temperatures exceeding 90 degrees Fahrenheit, though it feels closer to 100.
	Many of these cities could experience heat indexes hitting 105 degrees.
	Heat indexes, mind you.
	Heat indexes.
	That's not the temperature, it's the heat index.
	105 degrees by Sunday.
	These increasingly oppressive hot days aren't a coincidence.
	They aren't.
	They are the predictable impact of a climate crisis.
	Oops, she flubbed that one too, which is interesting.
	These increasingly oppressive hot days aren't a coincidence.
	They aren't.
	They are the predictable impact of a climate crisis.
	I missed it.
	And they're not just an inconvenience, they're also killing us.
	At higher rates.
	Killing us!
	Heat-related deaths among older Americans have increased 54% in recent decades.
	In Florida, changing weather patterns are bombarding the southern tip of the state with a seemingly never-ending series of storms that have left whole streets flooded, cars crippled, and two people dead.
	In California, more than 20 fires have sparked across the state since Saturday, burning over 20,000 acres.
	But we have 300 million people in this country.
	We had two people dead?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, you know, hey, it could have been you.
	And listen to the fires!
	In California, more than 20 fires were sparked across the state since Saturday, burning over 20,000 acres.
	These aren't just climate stories.
	They're actually economic stories because people are getting paid good money to ignore them.
	Do we get any money for ignoring it?
	Well, I think she's talking about us.
	These podcasters, good money.
	Yeah, but we're not getting any.
	We're not getting good money.
	To say the least.
	No kidding.
	Well there's part two to this.
	Not only have big donors bought themselves some politicians.
	They got some podcasters in their pocket too.
	But they've also bought themselves a federal judiciary that cares more about rich corporations and wealthy donors than they do about your health and well-being.
	The Supreme Court is the most pro-oligarch of all time.
	Pro-oligarch of all time?
	This is some good script writing.
	I mean, she's really nailing it with the heat index and the feels-like and the pro-oligarch.
	I guess she's talking about the Supreme Court.
	We do have an interesting twist, although she won't mention it by name.
	The six Leonard Leo justices, Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Alito, Roberts and Thomas, have the most, I repeat, the most pro-big business voting records in the history of the court.
	Is that true?
	Can we verify that they have the most?
	I don't think you can verify that.
	The most pro-business, well, oligarchs.
	This is, again, this is all about the Chevron deference, which is coming up shortly.
	That's right, that's right.
	Listen, listen.
	They've ruled that corporations are people.
	That the Environmental Protection Agency cannot protect you from pollution.
	And they're ready to go even further.
	Hold on a sec, stop it.
	At least three of those justices weren't involved in the corporations are people decision.
	Yeah, they were on their own.
	It predates Gorsuch.
	It predates Amy.
	It predates the other way.
	Good catch.
	So she's a liar.
	No.
	Stop.
	There's gambling.
	Our mental protection agency cannot protect you from pollution.
	And they're ready to go even further by stifling the regulatory power of all federal agencies.
	Stifling the power.
	I can't wait for Chevron deference to come up.
	That's gonna be, that's gonna be so cool.
	The freak out though is, it's weird, why, why is she or anybody else defending the bureaucratic state?
	Is it because, possibly, that really is the deep state?
	And, and this is where they get their, their information from, and this is, you know, they've all got their buddies on the inside.
	I mean, it's all, whenever Veritas, no, what is his name, O'Keefe, Whenever O'Keefe gets someone, which is usually some poor gay guy, it's always someone from inside these agencies.
	So you've got to think that that's probably where the news media gets everything from.
	And the CIA is also an agency.
	FBI is an agency.
	All these agencies are Well, I'm not so sure about the CIA and FBI, but, but EPA, Department of Education, I mean, Department of Homeland Security, these are all, these are all, they're all on the block potentially.
	Well, yeah, this would, yeah, CIA and FBI wouldn't be.
	They're not doing policy so much as secret police work.
	Yeah.
	Brown shirt stuff.
	But it's like, This freak out still, and I will repeat this complaint of mine, which is that we never had this Chevron deference before 1984, and we had plenty of these agencies.
	I was one of them, in one of them.
	And they got along just fine, famously.
	They didn't need anything, any special help.
	And then they got the special help.
	And it was ironic because it was when the EPA was pulled back, the reins were, they were pulled in by the Reagan administration to do less regulating.
	That's when they, when the suit happened, it was just kind of beyond ironic.
	And then they realized that they could make hay with this.
	And so, Once the Democrats got in power, then they went in the other direction and nobody could do anything about it.
	But before 1984, there was not an issue.
	Why is it now suddenly an issue?
	Well, NPR is starting to wise up to a couple of things, mainly the scam that is the carbon offsets.
	Which, I mean, you can buy this on your plane ticket, when you rent cars, there's all kinds of different places.
	Whoa, why don't you add a 2% or 5% and save the earth?
	If you've ever wondered if that's a scam, listen to NPR.
	First off, what really is a carbon offset?
	I spoke to Danny Cullenward at UPenn about this.
	He says an offset is basically a promise.
	It's a promise that somebody else did something good somewhere else that resulted in a climate benefit.
	It could be a promise that someone protected a forest that would have been cut down, or a promise that someone made a wind farm and switched from fossil fuels.
	The key promise being your money is actually reducing or removing planet heating pollution, like that carbon dioxide pollution from your flight or your car rental.
	But Barbara Haya at UC Berkeley says there's a problem.
	Most offsets don't represent what they claim.
	There are two big ways many offsets can be false promises.
	First, many offset projects overestimate their impact.
	For example, many offset projects that claim they're saving forests from deforestation, research finds many are getting money for forests that don't actually need protection.
	So then is there any actual accountability if a carbon offset company makes a climate claim that's false?
	Is there a way for consumers to take action or is there enforcement here?
	In California, there is a bill in the state assembly right now.
	All those promises of climate benefits that carbon offset companies make, this bill would make those claims legally enforceable.
	So there's still time to get in?
	I think we didn't isn't this where the whole not for humanity came from this is not where the whole idea came yes I think there was one And that was like, I think we did that over a decade ago.
	Uh, let me check.
	If you remember, there was a, uh, vending machines at airports, they all disappeared, that were selling carbon offsets.
	So when you took your flight, you punch into how many miles you're going and you get a little coupon that said, thank you, you saved the earth.
	2017, I think is when we first got that jingling.
	So we were probably talking about it in 2016.
	And the whole idea was you could have no agenda producers take a nap because it would be less carbon dioxide exuded, and that would be a carbon offset.
	And so it seems like there's no regulation.
	It's a bonanza.
	It's a free-for-all.
	Let's listen to some more from NPR.
	That feels like a big problem.
	If your money isn't actually reducing as much climate pollution as the offset claims, what's the other issue?
	Something called permanence.
	Offsets are supposed to reduce or remove carbon dioxide pollution, right?
	The carbon dioxide, some carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere hundreds of years.
	Some CO2 sticks around even longer, thousands of years.
	Here's the thing.
	Wait, some CO2 sticks around for thousands of years?
	What is this magical dust?
	By the way, I think the troll room is right.
	It must have been much earlier than 2017.
	It must have been.
	I think it was over 10 years ago.
	Oh no, I think you're right.
	Let's go back to this carbon dioxide that hangs around for a thousand years.
	Some CO2 sticks around even longer.
	Thousands of years.
	Thousands!
	How do they know?
	Is there still Jesus carbon dioxide hanging around?
	Here's the thing.
	The vast majority of carbon offsets only promise to remove or store CO2 emissions for 40 years or less.
	Cullen Ward says a 40-year promise of reducing emissions does not compare to a 300-year or several thousand-year impact of carbon dioxide.
	So if a lot of these are false promises, is the government doing anything to address these issues with offsets, consumers, and companies?
	I just love the breathiness of these two.
	John, is there really anything that we can do about these offsets?
	Well, I don't know, Adam.
	I don't think anything could be done.
	It's just thousands of them.
	So if a lot of these are false promises, is the government doing anything to address these issues with offsets, consumers, and companies are buying?
	Late last month, the Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, announced new principles for high quality... Wait, Janet Yellen?
	Janet Yellen announced something?
	Ah, what is she?
	Oh yeah, she's a climatologist.
	You didn't know that?
	Consumers and companies are buying.
	Late last month, the Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, announced new principles for high-quality carbon offsets.
	Ah, there we go.
	We had the low-quality carbon offsets.
	Now we're going to have the high-quality carbon.
	We're number one.
	Foam finger number one for our offsets.
	High quality, that is, offsets that actually reduce or remove climate pollution.
	But researchers say even these new principles have gaps.
	For example, the principles do not identify how long offsets have to keep carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.
	No number.
	Also, these aren't just principles.
	Researchers worry without enforcement, these voluntary principles might or might not be followed.
	A Treasury spokesperson said, though the principles released last month are voluntary, we believe they can help guide efforts to address the challenges.
	Okay, I finally, I figured it out.
	It's the exit strategy to end all exit strategies.
	Ready?
	Okay, I'm all ears.
	How much...
	Carbon, because we can't say carbon dioxide, how much carbon do you think is caused by every episode of the No Agenda Show?
	Taking into account the work that you and I do, the seven, eight hundred thousand people who listen, the computers, the phones they're using, this has got to be quite a lot of carbon, don't you think?
	I have no idea.
	Let's put a number on it.
	Theoretically, yes.
	In fact, I have a clip coming up.
	Stick with me on that.
	Which makes it even worse, whatever the number is.
	Whatever it is, I think we should sell carbon offsets to stop us from podcasting.
	So think about it.
	That's very counterintuitive.
	No, it's fantastic.
	So we need to sell the carbon offsets so that we don't waste all of this energy and carbon that's being just sloshed into the air.
	And the carbon that we are exhaling right now will be around for thousands of years.
	It's high quality carbon that we are getting rid of.
	And people could pay us to... Okay.
	Alright, what's your clip?
	What you got?
	Well, these clips are about AI and how it's affecting the climate and ruining everything!
	The rise of artificial intelligence is requiring faster and bigger computations for even simple tests than for, say, a Google search.
	It's adding to the demand for more Internet data centers, the places that house all those servers that keep the Internet running.
	But as Ali Rogin reports, there's a price to pay for that.
	Demand for data centers is growing rapidly, but these facilities come at a big environmental cost, especially for the communities that host them.
	Northern Virginia is the largest data center hub in the world.
	The area is responsible for processing nearly 70% of global digital traffic.
	It's a rate that local officials say is unsustainable.
	Sachi Kitajima-Molke is a science journalist and writer for the climate-focused news outlet Grist.
	Sachi, thank you so much for joining us.
	First of all, tell us a little bit more about what a And why do we need so many of them?
	Why do we need so many data centers?
	Remember we use the internet, upload photos to the cloud, send emails, watch a video.
	All of that data and digital information needs a home, and it lives in these huge facilities called data centers, which hold tens of thousands of servers each, and they process all that digital information for us.
	Something like 70% of the world's digital information is processed by a cluster of data centers in Virginia alone, and there are over 5,000 facilities in the US.
	What are the environmental impacts of having some of these data centers in your backyard?
	So, to process all that information, they need two things.
	The first is electricity, of course, to physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going on.
	Oh, all that gigabyte going on.
	Hucktown!
	Yeah, this is the science and technology writer.
	We just need to talk like that from now on.
	Hey, man.
	And they're processing all that gigabyte.
	I got a lot of gigabyte going on.
	How about you, John?
	I got gigabyte going on.
	Wait, to be honest about it, I have terabyte going on.
	Oh, remember, it's not the size.
	He's got terabyte.
	All right.
	All right.
	This is good.
	So we already know that they're talking to an idiot.
	So we're gonna get good material out of this person.
	I'm loving it already!
	Information they need, two things.
	The first is electricity, of course.
	To physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going... Physically crunch, John.
	It's a physically crunch.
	There's actually a cruncher.
	I mean, I actually missed that until now.
	Yeah.
	Physically.
	Physically crunching all that gigabyte.
	There's like grinders at these data centers.
	Big giant rocks that roll around, pulled by oxen.
	Just to remind everybody, Elitist Voices of America.
	This is NPR or PBS.
	Information they need, two things.
	The first is electricity, of course, to physically crunch and process all that gigabyte going on.
	The other is water, which are used in cooling systems to protect these servers from physically overheating.
	And researchers think they're in the top 10 water consuming industries in the US.
	They use 2% of the electricity in the US, which is a lot.
	And a source told me that data center campuses can use their resources equivalent to a small city.
	And as AI booms, they'll use even more.
	The average AI application uses six times the amount of electricity, so they run a lot hotter.
	And that scales exponentially.
	They just need more water to cool down.
	Whoa, she said that scales exponentially?
	That's kind of a contradiction that she's saying there.
	So it gets really hot, we need a lot of water, that scales exponentially?
	I think she's just using words.
	Okay.
	Use even more.
	The average AI application uses six times the amount of electricity, so they run a lot hotter.
	And that scales exponentially.
	They just need more water to cool down.
	And how do these data centers in the United States and around the world... Wait, wait, stop.
	Water to pull down?
	To cool down.
	To cool down.
	Oh, to cool down, okay.
	But, you know... I find it, by the way, the one overlooked facet to this is, I find interesting, is that 70% of all the data centers are in and around Langley.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	So, they run a lot hotter, and that scales exponentially.
	They just need more water to cool down.
	And how do these data centers in the United States and around the world affect global efforts to decarbonize?
	It's tricky because right now we are building out green energy solutions at a great scale.
	It's happening really fast, but it might not be happening fast enough.
	Currently, a lot of the grid is still running on fossil fuels and even plans in Virginia to shut down coal-firing plants.
	May not go through because these data centers need so much energy that grid operators need to fire those coal plants back up or just keep them running in order to meet all that demand.
	So in one of the talking points of these data center reform coalitions I've spoken to is that It's a step backwards from clean energy goals and kind of almost a betrayal of some of the promises certain states have made to, you know, get off of carbon.
	Oh, OK.
	Get off of carbon!
	Yeah, she says coal, coal firing.
	Isn't it called coal?
	I'm sorry.
	Coal.
	Coal fired.
	Coal fired.
	She's obviously a nincompoop.
	Well, she's on her way.
	Exit strategy.
	Become tech journalists at PBS.
	Hi, I'm Adam.
	It's John.
	We're crunching the gigabytes for you right here on PBS.
	Okay, I think, what clip are we on?
	We're on number three.
	This is Shorty.
	Need to set it up?
	This is Shorty?
	No, this is Shorty for a reason.
	You'll hear it when you hear it.
	And many of these data centers are located in densely populated residential areas.
	What's it like to live near one?
	Yeah, you know, they're being built near schools, neighborhoods, protected nature parks in Virginia in particular.
	And one big impact is that they're really loud.
	They hum and they bring all this noise pollution to the area.
	That's bullcrap.
	She's confusing it with the Bitcoin miners.
	I don't know what she's talking about.
	The data centers are completely quiet than the ones that these guys are using.
	Oh no, noise pollution, Adam.
	Noise pollution from the giant data centers because it's buzzing.
	That's total horse crap.
	That's total... It's the crypto mining guys who have no cooling.
	They just have an open roof.
	And they point all the fans up toward the roof.
	Yeah, those are noisy.
	But not this stuff.
	No, I don't believe it.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	No, they're not noisy.
	I've actually visited May East once, which is one of the... I built an exchange in Amsterdam.
	They don't make noise at all.
	On the outside they don't, no.
	They can get pretty noisy inside.
	Yeah, because of all the fans, but yeah.
	All the internal fans that are just blowing on the CPUs.
	Yeah, sure, I have a couple computers that make a lot of racket.
	But then that noise pollution outside?
	I was at May East when they had that flooding.
	Do you remember that?
	I do remember that.
	That must have been 95 or 96.
	I was taken to May East by some very cynical guy.
	He's showing me around and he says, and then as we leave, there's like the exit from there is you drive out through just like a parking lot.
	Yeah.
	underground parking lot, basically.
	And so he's driving and he says, look above us as we're driving now.
	I see those things.
	Those are the main cables.
	If you had a truck that's too big, you'd tear them apart and bring down the whole Internet.
	And everything was pointed out what a flaky operation it was.
	So we should probably explain the MAE stands for Metropolitan Area Exchange.
	And we had that was the big one on the East Coast.
	We had the MAE West, of course, on the West Coast.
	We had the Am6, the Amsterdam.
	We still have these.
	Yeah, they're not as important as they once were.
	No, no, but no, they're not.
	All the internet traffic used to go through all these things.
	Yeah, because you had a hundred different networks.
	And I think you had to pay carriage, too, to get them to work for you.
	No, we had peering feeds.
	We had peerage and peering feeds.
	Once peering happened, that was the end of it.
	Well, peering was great for a while, but then, you know, then it all got consolidated and all became...
	You know, like, what do we have now?
	AT&T and... Comcast.
	Comcast, yeah.
	And there's maybe one... Basically all we've got.
	How about MCI?
	Are those guys still around?
	I don't think so.
	Alright, onward.
	All that concrete also means a huge increase in stormwater runoff because that rain can no longer soak into the ground.
	It all has to go somewhere.
	What?!
	The concrete?
	Um, and so the amount of electricity also could be more than the grid may be able to handle.
	So when there's an outage, there's kind of a question of who gets the power, residents or data centers.
	We're talking to you now via Skype.
	We're using a lot of data to do it.
	A lot of data on Skype?
	We're talking to you now on Skype.
	There's a lot of data involved.
	What?
	Are you nuts?
	How much gigabyte are we crunching on Skype right now?
	Okay, I hope there's a good comeback in this final clip.
	No, this is ridiculous.
	This entire report are classic PBS reporters.
	They're clueless.
	As we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing to do so many things, we use apps, we do virtual meetings, that kind of thing.
	Is there any way that these data centers can continue to expand?
	Wait a minute, I just got to hear that again.
	We use apps!
	I just have to soak in the nonsense.
	Meanwhile, we have the Twit Network going out of business, and this is what we're left with?
	It's sad.
	As we increasingly rely on this type of cloud computing to do so many things, we use apps, we do virtual meetings, that kind of thing.
	Is there any way that these data centers can continue to expand, continue to grow and support all this usage, but do so in a more environmentally friendly way?
	Nuclear!
	You know, it is possible to build cooling systems that use less water, but we don't really see those built out at scale yet.
	And you could power them with green energy, but again, right now we have a grid that's kind of stuck on fossil fuels, and we're slowly making the transition to green energy, but maybe not fast enough to meet all this demand.
	First, before we can really know what we need to do next, we just need more transparency from the industry, which scientists and activists both told me is pretty secretive.
	Google is saying it's a leader in sustainable data centers.
	And they only began releasing their water usage data a couple of years ago after a lawsuit.
	And to that transparency point, I want to play for you a soundbite from an environmental activist in Northern Virginia, as we've said, where so many of these data centers are located.
	One of the big things that concerns me is that some of these data center companies are claiming to be holding federal or Department of Defense Servers and therefore their critical infrastructure and cannot be allowed to go down.
	And so there's this question of who gets the water in a trout situation and are they going to leverage that kind of argument of national security to potentially say they get the water first?
	Are there any safeguards that exist to make sure that these companies are being honest about the types of companies that they're supporting with their servers and what the effect on the environment is?
	We're kind of trusting companies to be transparent and do the right thing.
	A lot of companies like to tout sustainability goals.
	But truthfully, we're trying to get laws through in Virginia right now.
	A couple of bills were introduced in Virginia and in other states, but they're not getting a lot of traction until we have that research we need.
	And so right now, Virginia is conducting a data center impact study, and the results of that will come out later this year, hopefully.
	I mean, we're just seeing a lot of action in Virginia in particular.
	Yeah, there's something going on with Virginia, and that's why they put these idiots on this report.
	Because really, the data centers, Utah, Um, you know, there's some pretty big ones in Texas.
	There's a lot being built here.
	I don't understand this whole report's focus on Virginia.
	There's something else happening with data centers in Virginia.
	I have to agree, because it's vicious, the way they're doing the reporting.
	Now, I just want to stay on this for a moment, because... Is that the end of it?
	Yeah, that's your five.
	Okay.
	There was an interview with President Trump, and this was actually quite... I couldn't even watch the whole thing.
	It was the all-in crew, which is David Cox... Oh, with J-Cal!
	Well, so J. Cal put on a suit and tie and, like, 1970s Buggles glasses.
	I, by the way, can I make one quick comment about that outfit he was wearing?
	Yeah, please.
	Because you know him, I know.
	Yeah, we know him.
	We've both run into him over the years.
	What a joke!
	Yes, what a joke.
	He usually wears a turtleneck, but here he's wearing, and I was trying to figure out why is he wearing this outfit?
	Because it doesn't look like anything he's ever worn before.
	He showed up on the Jesse Watters Show.
	About to promote the interview?
	To promote the interview, and Waters called him J-Cal, and he called himself J-Cal, I don't know, who cares, it's a stupid nickname, because he's like J-Lo, get it?
	That's the idea.
	That makes it even funnier.
	Hot dog!
	Yeah, that's exactly why he's using this moniker.
	And so he's wearing this suit and this pink tie and it's like, uh, I'm thinking, why is he wearing this outfit?
	And I realized who it is.
	It's that, that guy that's on Shark Tank, the well-dressed guy who shows up a lot on different Fox shows.
	Um, I can't remember his name offhand.
	Mr. Wonderful?
	That's the guy?
	Who's Mr. Wonderful?
	He's the guy who's so sharply dressed on the... They're all... They're all in suits.
	Well, I think he's... Yeah, it's his name.
	It's somebody in the... O'Leary.
	O'Leary?
	O'Leary, O'Leary.
	Yeah, he's Mr. Wonderful.
	Well, he's always dressed to the tens.
	He's wearing a cufflinks.
	He's wearing an expensive suit.
	He's got that exact same look.
	That's what Calicanis is copying.
	He sees, well, this guy's getting a lot of attention.
	Maybe if I dress like this.
	Because Calicanis is a copycat.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	We've known him since the days of Silicon Alley, when he was writing a rag.
	He was literally a rag writer.
	He tried to do the producer stuff that we did once, and one of his, he started potty, he talked Leo into using this week in what, startups?
	No, no, he stole it.
	He stole it from Leo.
	Well, I'm not, I don't think so.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, you would know.
	Leo gave him permission.
	Oh, Leo.
	Oh, Leo.
	Because he thought that Callicast was gonna, you know, he didn't think he was gonna be a competitor.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sure, go ahead and use it.
	No, okay, he doesn't steal stuff.
	He's a copycat, but he's not a thief.
	And so he took that, Leo gave him permission, so yeah, okay, so he ran out with a whole series of this this weekend.
	You know, when... But they failed anyway.
	Now this thing here looks like it's semi-successful.
	When I was, well, he's got David Sachs on and Chamath, whatever, you know, Chamath, what's the guy's name?
	Yeah, he's got a good team.
	Yeah, no, those guys are good.
	Now he's dressing up like O'Leary.
	When I was living in L.A., remember Christina moved out there for a little bit and she lived in L.A.?
	You may not remember, but she did.
	And, you know, she was basically looking for, it was a weird period, you know, I was going through a divorce, it was messy, it was a messy, messy time.
	She was out there and she was living with a bunch of weirdos and I was trying to keep my eye on her and I was trying to get her a gig and then I was on Calacanis' show, which, what was it?
	It wasn't this week in startups.
	It was something, maybe it was, I don't remember.
	Then he had his kind of little company there and I took Christina in and he said, oh yeah, no, come back.
	And so she did an interview.
	She interviewed for a job there and she came back and said, I'm never going to work for that creep dad.
	That guy's weird.
	My daughter wouldn't even work for him.
	Well, there's other people that went through that, you know.
	Molly Wood for a while!
	Molly was even doing some shows.
	He's a good salesman.
	He is an excellent sales guy.
	And he knows how to do it.
	He's really good.
	And so he's done well for himself.
	and you know, he doesn't talk like this as much.
	I noticed this when he was on...
	Well, his whole thing, what he did well is he...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He kind of got into that Y Combinator group and invested in some things early.
	And that's how he got into Uber early.
	And then, you know, he invested in Tesla early through his contacts at Sequoia.
	I think we have Ruloff.
	He'll drop in.
	Oh, Rudolph.
	I heard from Ruloff.
	Ruloff is the CEO now.
	He's the name dropper.
	Ruloff is the South African cabal, the other part, the part of Elon that actually does stuff behind the scenes.
	And, you know, and so he's Elon's best friend.
	I remember he was at the takeover of Twitter and he was, oh, maybe I should be the CEO.
	Yeah.
	Goodbye.
	No, I haven't forgotten.
	I remember he was kind of vying to be the CEO.
	Yeah, he was pushing to be CEO of Twitter.
	Anyway.
	He is a good sales guy, but he's not perfect, so he can't pull everything off.
	But this idea of wearing this suit and tie that he's got, I just shake him, and he's got a different kind of haircut, those glasses you talked about.
	He's a poser.
	He's a poser.
	He kind of looks like a 70s Studio 54 Coke dealer.
	Don't you think?
	The way he looks now?
	Yeah, maybe.
	That might be an interesting... Anyway.
	Yeah, it's just... And who knows... I don't know what he... What's he up to?
	We don't know.
	Well, first, let me just say... But he did get on... He got on waters and waters lapped it up.
	Lapped, lapped, lapped.
	Yeah, I wanna say...
	The world would be a lot less colorful without Jason.
	I mean it.
	I'm happy he's in our world.
	I sincerely mean that.
	We rag on him, but it would be... Of course, that's what we do.
	It would be a lot less colorful without Jason.
	Anyway, so I'm watching this interview and Jason is trying to do tough questions, which Trump is not having at all.
	I mean, I listened to this on the plane and I fell asleep.
	So after like 25-30 minutes of an hour and a half, I couldn't even listen to it.
	But I did listen to this one thing and it was kind of like, oh, because David Sachs is the dangerous guy here.
	What is the deal with this David Sachs?
	Where's he from?
	Because that's why Trump is on this show.
	David Sachs.
	What is his deal?
	Well, he's a bundler for sure.
	Yeah, he's an entrepreneur.
	A bundler.
	There you go.
	Bundler.
	He's a bundler.
	He's a guy who knows how to put together a party to bring in millions of dollars for some candidate.
	He's also, I guess, a VC in some ways, but I think his skill is being one of those guys.
	David Sachs will be in the Trump administration as the ambassador to France or England or something like that.
	All these VCs want to be ambassadors.
	Yeah, but maybe he'll get something close, but we'll see.
	He might do policy.
	So I guess David Sachs was part of the big CEO get-together, maybe it was at his house, and they told Trump about this little, little two-word thing, a little thing, a little, little thing called AI.
	We have a phenomena coming up right now, and I was talking about it the other day to David, and that's AI, a little thing, simple, two little simple letters, but it's big.
	And I realized the other day, more than anything, when we were at David's house and talking to a lot of geniuses from Silicon Valley and other places, they need electricity at levels that nobody's ever experienced before to be successful, to be a leader in AI.
	The amount of electricity they need is like double what we have right now and even triple what we have right now.
	It's incredible how much they need to be the leader.
	And we're going to have to be able to do that.
	And a windmill turning with its blade knocking out the birds and everything else is not going to be able to make us competitive.
	You'll have China.
	What about what about nuclear, Mr. President?
	Yeah.
	So let me just give you a statistic.
	So then they go on he actually he knows he knows the problems and he even said you know France those guys are smart they did they got modular they can do all the same thing not like we're idiots everything's different everything so he he was good but he's being psyoped in this AI thing and you and I have been talking We don't talk much outside the show, but after the show as I'm, you know, post-producing and we're compressing everything, getting it all done, we'll chat a little bit.
	And we've been talking about when, what is it, what is the trigger that is going to take this nonsense down, this AI?
	Right.
	And we did discuss this in the last post-mortem.
	Yes, post-mortem.
	And I think I may have found one and it comes a lot, because you said if we could figure out what the real downfall was of the dot, what popped the dot-com bubble, we may be able to figure out what pops the, what pops the AI bubble.
	And I think I may have found it.
	Well, did you figure out what popped the dot?
	Because I think back on it and I'm thinking, what the hell popped the dot com?
	Well, allow me to... I was in the Netherlands in end of 99, 2000.
	End of 99, 2000.
	And it was World Online.
	World Online was going to be the biggest IPO run by a lady called Nina Brink.
	And I know Nina Brink because Ron Bloom and I tried to get our initial financing from Nina Brink because we were running all over the world.
	Before we had the venture capital money, we were trying to figure where could we raise money from.
	And of course, I had my contacts in Holland and somehow we run into Nina Brink.
	And she's been involved.
	I mean, her whole thing is, oh, we'll do a big announcement with an LOI.
	We'll have an LOI.
	She's a Miss LOI, which is a letter of intent, which is completely meaningless.
	At the end of the day, she didn't actually want to invest.
	She wanted to give us a subordinated loan.
	Like, okay, no.
	So it was a big runaround.
	But she has been very successful in a whole bunch of other businesses.
	And now she was going to set up this whole world online thing she had.
	And she had bought France Telecom and all these different internet providers.
	And it was going to be the global online internet provider.
	And everybody had money in the IPO.
	I had friends and family.
	Oh, I made other friends and family.
	It was great.
	She discloses one day before the IPO that she actually sold all of her stock before the IPO.
	And the IPO tanked and after that, as far as I know, everything in public markets just went to crap and the whole thing fell apart.
	I can't say for sure that the World Online failed IPO was really the trigger, but I find it coincidental that she pops up in the news as I'm traveling back from the Netherlands.
	I'm at the airport and the financial newspaper, the Financielle Dachblatt, has this whole story about Renovaro Biosciences.
	Here, in fact, Hindenburg Research is after them.
	You know Hindenburg Research, right?
	Oh yeah.
	These are the short sellers.
	Here's their headline.
	Renovaro Biosciences, a worthless AI shell game with a murderous magician past.
	I mean, and this has Nina Brink, who's now Nina Storms, Dr. Nina Storms, no less, So she was, somehow she bought this, she was involved in this bioscientist company, which was set up by this guy who had, you know, he's one of the most important scientists in the world, but it turns out that he killed one of his, or had one of his former partners shot to death, and then, oh yeah, the whole thing is a mess.
	But what she was going to do was going to bring in this company and put it together with this Renovaro Biosciences and they took it public and she brought in this company called GENICUBE, which is literally nothing.
	GENICUBE, G-E-N-I-C-U-B-E, which is kind of interesting because, you know, whenever you put cube in it, it sounds so scientific.
	And this thing is coming, it's publicly listed, this thing is coming apart at the seams, and there's all kinds of investigations, and because she brought in the AI nonsense, I mean, really, gobbledygook of flowery language, which really means nothing, absolutely nothing, I think that this may, even though it's not a direct trigger, I think that this is it.
	I think whenever Nina Brink shows up, it's time to bail.
	Well then why don't you go short NVIDIA and see what happens?
	Good luck.
	I don't know.
	I'm not so sure I want to do that.
	We have in our audience kind of, I would say, armchair analysts who develop stuff.
	Well, you know, it's possible.
	We have in our audience kind of, I would say, armchair analysts.
	Yes, we do.
	Who know this.
	Who develop stuff.
	Many of these ideas are quite good.
	They're just not, they're not polished.
	No.
	But we have at least 10 people in our audience that can, that have theories, I bet, if we ask for them, that can provide us with theories as to why the dot-com collapse took place.
	Now, I remember a previous collapse, and this is the more obscure, and I can't remember the name of the IPO that failed, and it collapsed the entire industry, of console games during the Atari era.
	Console games, hmm.
	Yeah, there was a big boom in games that were for these game consoles, not the, you know, this all pre-Nintendo, because when you had the Atari and a bunch of these other, you know, Pong was a player back in the day.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And there was a bunch of these games that came out for the Atari mostly, game consoles, all blocky, it was terrible, but there was one company... ColecoVision!
	ColecoVision!
	That was an example.
	And there was a bunch of these companies and then there was these IPOs that were starting to develop and they were coming out with these game companies and one game company failed and it brought the whole industry down.
	And it was the end of it.
	In fact, there wasn't anything after that except the Nintendo was left and it was kind of came out of the ashes and took over the place.
	And then Sony came in later.
	And then we had other things, Sega and things like that.
	It was a very interesting phenomenon to watch it transition from one to the other.
	But a collapse took place in the meantime.
	And that collapse was triggered by a failed IPO that was triggered by something.
	Again, it's one of these things that Uh, the trigger mechanism may be elusive, but when it happens it's noticeable.
	And it goes fast.
	Yeah, oh wait, very slowly and then fast all of a sudden.
	I wonder what that was, I wonder what that was.
	Because, yeah, Nintendo, NES came out, they, was it Sega?
	No, Sega came up with NES and they hung in there for most of the second round of games.
	And Sega just quit on its own.
	It just decided out of the blue to stop doing it after the Dreamcast, which is a killer machine.
	But that whole market is a study in itself.
	But to study these other phenomena and the AI thing is...
	It will happen because there's no way that this is going to continue with the power requirements and some of the things going on with the promises and delivering not much more than just kind of crappy art.
	There's not much going on.
	Yeah, it's not.
	Nice demos, everybody.
	It's not right.
	We don't see any Shakespearean plays coming out of any of this stuff.
	Well, what is definitely sure is that people are very disappointed by the reality of the interaction with the voice response versus the demo.
	Because I, you know, Sam Altman was also interviewed by Jay Cowell about a month ago.
	And I, so, you know, as I'm thumbing through away from this Trump interview, I get the Altman interview.
	An hour of nothing.
	The guy says nothing.
	Uh, yeah, that's a really interesting, uh, and, and Jay Cowell and Chamath and all.
	Whoever these guys are, Sachs, they were all saying, well, you know, it has a lot of promise, but it was the latency.
	They kept talking about the latency.
	I didn't see any latency in that demo where, oh, I see you're sitting in a cool room.
	Are you getting ready to do a podcast or maybe a demo?
	There was no latency there.
	So they sexed it up.
	The whole demo is fake and phony.
	It's fake and phony.
	Yeah, well, that's nothing new.
	No.
	Well, you have at least some thoughts on this, but we're soliciting further thoughts from the fabulous audience of producers.
	Yeah, well, particularly the gaming history, someone out there will know for sure.
	But this has got, and when this goes, man, it's going to be spectacular.
	I think they need to keep it going until Trump gets in.
	I don't know if it's going to be as spectacular as the dot-com collapse.
	To me, that was the most spectacular thing I've ever seen.
	That took the whole market.
	Well, this will too.
	Because NVIDIA is carrying the market.
	Yes, it's carrying everything.
	It's gone from a chip maker that makes, you know, processors for gamers to the biggest corporation in the world?
	Really?
	Yeah, which needs eight times the power to power their chips.
	Should it even work?
	It's just a hard no.
	It's like, no, this is not going to happen.
	Anyways, we'll see.
	Speaking of fake and phony, I'm going to keep, I got two more clips here from, I'm going to go back for a second to power and energy.
	So we have a unique opportunity to show the future.
	A unique opportunity, I say.
	To show the future of solar and wind and how we all can live in harmony without any carbon dioxide.
	I'm sorry, carbon.
	And that is Ukraine.
	Ukraine could be a shining example.
	And Zelensky's actually thinking about it.
	Ukraine, the energy grid has come under sustained attack from Russian missiles.
	It's caused more blackouts.
	The country's facilities already struggling after repeated targeting.
	A barrage of strikes have continued this afternoon.
	Three people reported dead in Kharkiv.
	Now, President Volodymyr Zelensky has said this week there needs to be a rush for replacement solar energy for civil institutions across the country.
	He said it is a time of panic.
	Let's have a listen to his words from overnight.
	The government has been tasked with immediately presenting a program to encourage the installation of solar generation and energy storage systems in Ukraine.
	A program that is as favorable as possible.
	All right.
	Let's do it.
	Let's prove it.
	Let's bring out some solar.
	Make it all work.
	Power your cities.
	I'd love to see it.
	We all know it's not gonna work.
	Um, quick little update on the orange painting of Stonehenge and Taylor Swift's jet.
	So, as I already said, it wasn't Taylor Swift's jet.
	No.
	These people just went in, spray-painted someone else's jets.
	And I'm like, this is a very costly thing.
	You can't just fly with some paint on there.
	All kinds of bad things happen at high speeds.
	And so I go looking, like, but what exactly?
	Because it came out of fire extinguishers?
	It looked like they had fire extinguishers, the stuff they were- Yeah, that would fill with paint.
	Well, no.
	It's not paint.
	So, Danielle, what do we know about these protesters?
	And is this orange stuff, like, reversible?
	Like, are these rocks gonna be okay?
	They're gonna be okay, and they're gonna wash away.
	At least that's what we're told by the protesters.
	I'm not gonna give you, our viewers, a history lesson here, but there's a reason why Stonehenge is so remarkable.
	It's a UNESCO heritage site.
	It's one of the most recognizable landmarks here in the UK.
	Built 4,500 years ago, it's in perfect alignment with the sun.
	We don't know who built them, but we do know today who tried to damage them.
	A 21-year-old student from Oxford University A 73-year-old man who was quoted as saying that the orange cornflour that was used to create this eye-catching spectacle will wash away with the rain, but not the climate crisis if the leaders don't act.
	Okay, now I have a serious... Yeah, I've heard it's cornstarch and a pigment.
	I got a serious question.
	I have a serious question.
	If they haven't ruined anything because it washes off, why are we putting this on the news?
	It's the same.
	They go and, oh, they spray painted a painting.
	No.
	They put paint on the glass.
	Why are we putting these idiots on the news if they didn't do anything?
	Well, I'm not going to argue about the point that this should not be covered.
	But it's, well, I think the reason you put it on the news is because you got some crazy maniac with a fire extinguisher filled with his goo, and they're spraying a side of an airplane, and you have a video of it.
	It's kind of... But if I was an editor, I'd probably say, you know, this is kind of interesting.
	Let's at least run it.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's because there's a point to be made.
	It's all theater.
	It's not actually ruining the airplane.
	It's not actually ruining the priceless art.
	It's not ruining Stonehenge.
	It's MKUltra.
	We're being mind-controlled into thinking that these children, and apparently a 73 year old, are so incensed that they feel they have to go and destroy valuable objects.
	They're not!
	Well, a couple of things.
	First of all, until I see a washing machine spray, just take a hose and spray off that crap that's on the airplanes, which is typically what should happen the way they're describing it, I don't believe it.
	It's cheeto dust.
	And I especially don't believe the thing with Stonehenge.
	That pigment, if you ever buy just raw pigments, then you can do that if you go to an art supply place, a big one, where they sell, literally just sell pigment.
	They don't sell, it's not paint, it's pigment, it's powder, and you can mix it with cornstarch if you wanted to and make a slurry.
	But that's not what he said.
	He says it's corn dust.
	It's corn flour.
	Corn flour.
	Or corn starch.
	It doesn't matter.
	We know what this is.
	It's a powder that you mix with the pigment and then you... Wait a minute.
	No one said pigment.
	You can make it wet and make a slurry and you can spray the slurry.
	Are you with Extinction Rebellion?
	No, I'm just saying this reporting about how this stuff is washed right off is bullcrap.
	I don't... Well, you have no... Where's your clip?
	I want to see it washed off!
	That's what I'm... Show me!
	Okay, well, I'm just saying that you're saying that... No one said pigment.
	No one said that you're putting pigment in there that stains everything.
	Well, you can't get... Where's the orange come from?
	Is it magic?
	From the Cheeto dust.
	Which is pigment.
	Cheeto dust, you can lick your fingers and it comes right off.
	When's the last time you tried to get all that crap off your hand?
	On the plane.
	They serve Cheetos on the plane.
	What plane serves Cheetos, for God's sake?
	United.
	They got dudes in dresses.
	It's a great airline.
	They got everything.
	Dudes in dresses.
	All right.
	Now we're talking about food.
	I'm going to take this one right up your alley.
	The latest in food cuisine.
	Oats Cuisine.
	The exclusive.
	Solutions to the climate crisis will take many forms.
	One of which is algae.
	That's according to chef Callum Munro.
	He comes down to the coast every other day to collect seaweed here on the Scottish Isle of Skye.
	You do this every week then?
	I do it maybe twice or two times a week actually.
	See this one here which is I would say up there with the best is sea spaghetti.
	As you can tell why it's called sea spaghetti, because it just looks exactly like this.
	Again, it's quite a subtle flavor, but you can use it just as you would spaghetti.
	Together with climate activist Shona Cameron, the two are trying to bring seaweed back into the kitchen.
	As a renewable alternative to fish and meat, seaweed is the vegetable of the sea and is available all year round.
	They're sharing these ideas with schools armed with recipes for the children to learn.
	Oh, there you go.
	Teach them how to eat seaweed.
	It's the vegetable of the sea.
	I don't know what to say.
	We're going too far with all of this.
	It stinks.
	It's a nice wrapper for sushi.
	Yeah, that's about it.
	Stop.
	Stop there.
	He's holding up these stringy seaweed.
	Oh, it's just like spaghetti.
	In fact, it tastes like spaghetti.
	It's not, well, that would be the world's worst spaghetti, but okay.
	Yes, I'm in agreement with you.
	Oh man, oh man, oh man.
	Before we drift too far astray, because you did mention Trump, I want to bring it back to that.
	Trump, I watched Trump's Philadelphia speech.
	Ah, I'm glad you did.
	Okay.
	I put it aside.
	I wanted to see if he had new material, what he was up to.
	Was he kind of losing it a little bit?
	No, that's bullcrap.
	In fact, he brings that up.
	Hey, I'm just telling you, you, I played, it's not bullcrap.
	His prompter went out and he wasn't good.
	And you heard it and you agreed.
	See, I disagree.
	He didn't use much of a prompter in this speech, but he does ramble.
	And he mocks himself for rambling.
	He discusses it and he's reflective.
	You thought the shark and the electrocution was a good bit?
	I didn't think it was a good bit.
	It was one of his bits, though, and I didn't think it was horrible, like you said.
	But I do have two examples of new bits.
	Okay.
	One of them, which is worse than the shark, and one that I think he's going to use in going forward.
	He has a bunch of new material that he's trying out.
	He does an hour and a half.
	He did two speeches.
	He did one in Washington, D.C., I guess, which I didn't see, and then he went to Philadelphia and did a big one.
	And it was interesting to see how he, his audience, I always check the background because he always has a bunch of people back there behind him.
	And he always has a couple of babes that have, they have a very distinctive Trump babe look.
	They got kind of their kind of angular faces, very pretty, photogenic looking anyway, or telegenic.
	And they're always holding up signs, and on the back of it, he's got, the signs are all two-sided now, so he's got two messages, usually the Trump 24-1, and the other one was... Were they, uh, were they calipidges?
	No, the girls don't show their asses, they're just a bunch of pretty faces in the audience.
	Oh, okay.
	Alright, thank you.
	So he's got the signs and the signs say Trump something on one side and the other side says too big to rig is his latest news.
	Okay.
	So all the signs you flip around says too big to rig.
	But slowly the background evolves so when he finished the speech and could start talking about his audience behind him, it was all black.
	It was, there wasn't a white face in the crowd.
	It was all, I don't know, I didn't even see him switching them out.
	Ah, excellent.
	And you could see, and a couple of them were very, you know, these very pretty women.
	They were, everyone was swapped out very slowly, like I think one at a time.
	Oh.
	And then, so it was a complete black audience behind him at the very end, and so he could reflect onto the house.
	So they were literally doing this as he was speaking, they're rotating the audience?
	Yes.
	Wow, that's slick.
	And he had an hour and a half to do it, so it was so slow that unless you watched the beginning, and then cut to the end, you wouldn't have noticed.
	You think it was like a rotating stage?
	Just slowly rotating?
	No, no, it's not a rotating stage.
	So anyway, so he has, I have two examples of his new material.
	Alright.
	And they're short.
	This is under Trump and this will be, the one we're going to play here, is Trump Pennsylvania New Material 1.
	But they get him in all these horrible compromising posts and then they say he wasn't, it really wasn't that way.
	Then everybody sends in, they all have cameras, see every one of you has a camera.
	If I blow it up here, though, they actually they take a perfect, brilliant, beautiful statement that I make.
	I go for two hours without teleprompters.
	And if I say one word slightly out, they say he's cognitively impaired, whereas Biden can run into walls.
	He can fall off the stage.
	He can fall up the stairs.
	He falls up.
	He can turn around.
	Listen to this.
	From 20,000 feet, a paratrooper is landing right in front of him.
	Everybody, all the foreign leaders, they're watching.
	And he turns around to look at a tree.
	And then they say it was fake.
	He was fine.
	And then the press goes along with it.
	They go along with it.
	They say, isn't it terrible the way they cover him now?
	No, he's terrible.
	The worst president in history by far.
	And we have to get him out or this country is not going to survive.
	Another year!
	All right, all right.
	That's good.
	That's funny.
	So that was good material.
	So he did, so later he does this bit, which is the second clip, I only have two, and this was a bomb, and it was, and I left the pauses in at the end, so he let the whole thing play, and
	He gets nothing from this material he's gonna do and then so he lets it slide for a while and then he changes the subject so radically and I only have the beginning of the switchover at the very end and I was just saying you shake your head but this will you'll never hear this bit again.
	But every day you're reading about this.
	But how embarrassing is it for me to say we will build a wall or we will build a border?
	But how embarrassing is it to say we will keep men out of women's sports?
	Who would want men to play women's sports?
	And yet for them, for all these people, including the fake news media, for whatever reason, it's like a big deal.
	Who would want it?
	Did you ever look at the weightlifting records?
	Records that stood for 18 years!
	And a guy comes up, have you lifted before?
	No, I haven't.
	When I say a guy, a person who transitioned.
	Have you lifted before?
	No, I haven't really.
	A couple of days.
	Gets over the thing.
	Bing!
	Are we crazy?
	Or the swimming, where they obliterate records, obliterate.
	The women get windburn as the boys go by.
	I'm suffering tremendous windburn.
	What happened, the doctor says.
	Oh, well, I was swimming.
	I'm an Olympic swimmer.
	But a person transitioned, and he went by me so fast that the wind burned the hell out of me, doctor.
	No, it's so, it's so crazy.
	And it's so horrible for women.
	It's so embarrassing for women.
	I will fully uphold our Second Amendment!
	Switch?
	Well, at least he knows when to get out of it.
	Yes, he does.
	He bailed.
	Because that windburn thing, you'll never hear it again, I'm sure of it, because that was just bombed.
	It was a dog.
	This is because of Turning Point USA, you know, Charlie Kirk is touring with the women now, and he's got Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens and Riley Gaines.
	And that's why he's trying to shoehorn this in.
	But his punchline is right.
	He should be... And there's a dude in a dress!
	I mean, he should do something like that.
	That's funny.
	Not like...
	He's real, yeah.
	It wasn't, it wasn't good.
	That bit didn't work.
	I mean, the weightlifting thing almost got there, but then the windburn thing was just a loser.
	No, it's no good.
	And he's not gonna, you'll never hear it again.
	Going back to... And then he switched to the Second Amendment to get the audience back.
	Going back to the first clip...
	The MSNBC is doing this now.
	He's right.
	They're trying to make him look like he's losing his mind.
	So now we have the cheap fakes.
	Biden's great.
	Sharp as a tack.
	But Trump, oh no.
	So I have three clips.
	They're all pretty short.
	Actually, the second two are very short.
	This is the first one.
	British chick, of course.
	And here's how MSNBC is showing that Trump is losing his mind.
	And there is new audio of Donald Trump admitting that he lost the 2020 election and then quickly reverting back to the original lie.
	It comes from research for the new book Apprentice in Wonderland by Ramin Sittudah.
	He spoke to the former president six times and recorded the conversations.
	Trump's admission that he lost came during a conversation about his relationship with Geraldo Rivera.
	What was Geraldo like?
	He was good.
	He did a good job.
	He was smart, cunning.
	He did a good job.
	And are you guys still close?
	No, I don't think so.
	He is... After I lost the election, I won the election, but when they said... He called me up three or four times.
	After I lost the election, I won the election.
	In another conversation between Trump and Satuda, the former president claims that Joan Rivers voted for him in 2016.
	Joan said she was a Republican.
	Did you know that?
	I thought she might have been a Republican.
	I know one thing, she voted for me according to what she said.
	One small hitch with all of that, Joan Rivers actually died two years before that election.
	He's losing his mind, I tell you!
	Losing his mind!
	Now listen to Morning Joe, because they're really doing this now.
	down was in May.
	He wasn't doing a lot of interviews.
	And then we sat down again towards the end of the summer.
	And when I sat down, I, you know, there was a very blank expression on his face.
	So I asked, do you remember when we spoke recently?
	And he said, no, I have no memory of that.
	And he couldn't recall.
	He said it was a long time ago.
	And then we had to start from scratch.
	So the interview started from square one, where he was started telling me the same exact stories that we, that we, I heard in our first interview.
	So he didn't remember some Numbnut from And mourning Joe.
	And so he's losing his mind.
	He's losing his mind.
	But he also seemed to think that he still had some foreign policy powers.
	And there was one day where he told me he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan, even though he clearly didn't.
	He told you that he while you were interviewing him at Trump Tower, he told you he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan.
	With the quote, the Afghanistan is how he referred to it.
	Oh, he's losing his mind.
	Losing his mind, I tell you.
	Yes, I have noticed this this phenomenon, too.
	And it's always on it's on CNN and MSNBC only.
	And they are looking at the one that really got everybody's attention.
	What is when he called Ronnie Jackson, Ronnie Johnson at one of his speeches?
	Yeah.
	And so everybody jumped on this, including Jon Stewart on his Monday night show.
	And it was, oh, he couldn't even remember the name of his own doctor!
	And Trump referred to that particular moment in his Pennsylvania speech.
	But yes, they're trying to make him seem like Biden.
	It's almost the same age, you know?
	Yeah.
	Since you bring up Jon Stewart, so he does the Daily Show on Fridays, I think?
	Is it one day a week?
	Mondays.
	Mondays, one day a week.
	But he also has the Daily Show podcast, and of course this is up my alley because, you know, Podfather, everything.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah, pay attention to that stuff.
	And so you'd think the Daily Show podcast, I think it was originally called the John... I'm not quite sure.
	The name has changed.
	Sometimes he drops the podcast from it.
	But you'd be expecting to hear a funny, you know, like a, you know, like an irreverent type show.
	No!
	That's what you'd expect a podcast to be extreme.
	It's boring!
	And he has long, boring conversations.
	It's kind of like that Apple show, which was just boring.
	So that Apple show was the worst.
	So he got this boring show.
	And it's interesting because he did, and I just have a minute and a half of the boring show.
	Where he talked to Kathleen Hicks, who is high up in the Department of Defense.
	I thought she was one of Trump's old assistants.
	No, that was the cutie.
	No, that's a different one.
	That was the Press Secretary.
	No, Kathleen Hicks is the Deputy Secretary of Defense, and he gets into it with her about the audits of the Department of Defense, or as we would say, audit the Pentagon.
	It would be a good thing.
	And I thought what came out of it was kind of interesting.
	I had an opportunity to speak with the Deputy Secretary of Defense.
	You can already hear the show is boring.
	It's like, ugh.
	Yeah, it's already boring.
	He wants to be on PBS or something, or NPR.
	He needs to get closer to the mic.
	I had an opportunity to speak to Kathleen Hicks, Deputy Secretary of the Department of Defense.
	Kathleen Hicks.
	And I just asked about the failing of the audits.
	And I want you to listen, I think, to what I felt like was a remarkably defensive, for no reason, attitude about even the prospect of being questioned on this.
	But don't you think that that does speak to the larger point that we're trying to get at, which is good journalism uncovers corruption.
	Okay, I mean, good journalism doesn't cover corruption, but I'm not sure these two things are linked.
	An audit is not... Oh, but they are.
	Okay, so you need to explain to me, do you understand what an audit does and the degree to which it is linked to the question that you're asking?
	I believe so.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Give me your explanation.
	No, I don't mind learning.
	So what I would suggest is that the audit that they have in the military doesn't really look at whether or not there's efficacy.
	It's just whether they got delivered the thing that they ordered.
	That is any audit.
	That is any audit.
	That is true.
	Generally, those audits aren't $400 billion for Raytheon and $1.7 trillion for a plane that doesn't seem to be doing... Like, there is a lot of waste, fraud, and abuse within a system that is... Audits and waste, fraud, and abuse are not the same thing, so let's decompose these... Then please educate me on... Sure, so an audit is exactly what you just described, which is... Did she say, let's decompose this?
	Play it back.
	Decompose?
	Yeah, she said that.
	that doesn't seem to be doing.
	Like, there is a lot of waste, fraud, and abuse within a system.
	Audits and waste, fraud, and abuse are not the same thing.
	So let's decompose these things.
	Then please educate me on...
	Decompose?
	Yeah, she said that.
	She said decompose.
	Audits and waste, fraud, and abuse are not the same things.
	So let's decompose these pieces for a moment.
	Sure.
	So an audit is exactly what you just described, which is, do I know what was delivered to which place?
	The ability to pass an audit or the fact that the DOD has not passed an audit is not suggestive of waste, fraud, and abuse.
	The conversation goes on to the point where she says to me, you seem awfully concerned about the money.
	So I stopped it there.
	But that was kind of, I thought that was interesting, that an audit is not about the waste.
	No, it's about did we spend $100,000 on a toilet washer and did we get it or not?
	Not if it's a wasteful expenditure.
	So that was the only interesting thing of that entire boring show.
	But it leads me... Well, I will say this, that she got defensive because of the nature of the way he orchestrated the question by assuming immediately that there was waste, fraud, and abuse, and that's the reason for no audit.
	So I believe that she reacted properly.
	Wow.
	To an accusation, an unfounded accusation.
	Just a suspicion.
	A hunch.
	Merely a hunch we have.
	There may be some waste, fraud, and abuse going on.
	Yeah, you could be sure there is.
	So this brings me to the big announcement.
	It's, as we say in the lowlands, the Kohol's door to Kerek.
	The bullet has been shot through the church.
	I have no idea why they say that.
	The bullet has been shot through the church!
	Yeah, de Kogel is Doorderkerk.
	I have no idea why they say Dutch.
	Is there any historical reference to something being shot in a church?
	Well, let's say, first of all, the Dutch are one of the biggest proponents of Lutheranism.
	They're all Lutherans there, the churches are.
	And that was, it was early and the Catholics of course were banned pretty much.
	There's a couple of secret Catholic churches around and it's possible that some irked Catholic shot at a preacher or something in a Lutheran church.
	That's my only kind of a long shot guess.
	I just looked it up and I can't find anything right off the bat but I will have to look that one up.
	So anyway the bullet has been, the bullet is through the church.
	And we have a new incoming head honcho of NATO.
	This came through in Brussels this week.
	A new leader is poised to take over as NATO Secretary General.
	It's the former Dutch Prime Minister, Mark Rutte, who secured the backing of each member state.
	The only other credible competitor was Romania's president, Klaus Johannes.
	He's backed out.
	Now, Teflon Mark is his nickname.
	Hold on a second.
	I have been following Mark Rutte for a while.
	I have never heard anyone refer to him as Teflon Mark.
	I mean, maybe Crisco Mark, but Teflon Mark?
	No.
	Klaus Johannes is backed out.
	Now, Teflon Mark is his nickname in The Hague.
	One biographer said the 57-year-old cycling fanatic has a trademark.
	It's called Mieverein.
	Okay.
	Mieverein.
	Also something I've never heard.
	And I think he is referring to Mayverein.
	Which he'll translate as... He's bouncing, stretching along.
	No, I would say it's more like sucking up, being a slime ball, being a fair-weather friend, doing whatever's popular.
	That's what the translation of Mayviren is, or as he says, Meeviren.
	So already we've got this... we're building up some... Bad reporting, as usual.
	Well, bad reporting, but they also call him the Trump Whisperer.
	Oh yes, he'll be able to get... This guy who was in HR at Unilever, somehow, became Prime Minister for, oh my god, what was he, 12 years?
	A long time.
	Forever.
	A long time.
	Almost the whole show.
	And he's a wuss!
	One biographer said the 57-year-old cycling fanatic has a trademark.
	It's called Mivrin, which means bouncing.
	Cycling fanatic?
	He rides a grandma bike to work.
	He's not on a 10-speed with Lycra.
	Has a trademark.
	It's called Mivrin, which means bouncing, stretching along, working with whoever he needs to work with, to govern, to rule with.
	This was Mark Rutter talking to the press in the past 24 hours.
	It is of course an incredibly interesting position.
	It starts since three months.
	There is a fantastic Secretary General at the moment.
	But let me not give the impression that I am going to do something different from Jens Stoltenberg.
	We also know about Mark Rutte.
	He likes his routine.
	According to his biographer, he's always in the same cafe on a Saturday in the Netherlands.
	Something that I think will quickly change with security personnel on advice.
	And also that he loves you too.
	And he loves you too!
	He does what?
	He loves U2, the band U2.
	U2, the band?
	Yes, he loves U2, the band, yes.
	Oh, that's insightful.
	This is like the Tiger Beat biography.
	What is the point of taking some guy like that and making him the head of NATO?
	Because he'll do whatever they tell him to.
	Who's they?
	The military industrial complex, of course.
	Raytheon, Boeing, whoever.
	Of course.
	He'll just do whatever.
	Okay.
	So he's just bullshit?
	He's always been bullcrap.
	Always.
	I mean, he locked down the whole population during COVID.
	No, he is not seen as any kind of strong personality.
	He's wimpy, limp-wristed, weird.
	I mean, he rides his bike to work?
	Okay, how Dutch of you.
	And he's a maverin, which, oh, he bounces along.
	No, he'll do whatever is popular, whatever he's being told to do.
	So this, just take it from me, this guy is not a strong leader in NATO.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, well, your analysis is probably better than anything you're going to hear elsewhere.
	So there you have it.
	The troll room has some other words for him.
	Yes, you're correct.
	That too.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Cheeto dust.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora!
	In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning to all the cheese dust, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, let me count you, don't move!
	We did better than Father's Day because we had a low, low troll count.
	1618 on the last Sunday.
	We have 1863, so we're back up a little bit.
	Didn't do much for the donations, just the sheer number of donations.
	The actual, the amount of donations, just low.
	I mean, people are, it's summer I guess.
	We've hit the summer, people are too hot.
	Too hot.
	They're melting.
	They can't do anything else.
	You threw out a double sad puppy to no avail.
	And what are you gonna do next?
	You're just gonna kill a seal?
	A baby seal?
	We're gonna kill a seal.
	A little baby seal?
	Just club it to death?
	That's horrible.
	I need to apologize because somehow completely forgot to thank the artists for episode 1669 because you know as a value for value podcast there's many ways that people can help us and of course we appreciate our Our artists, to an incredible degree, because they're always there creating stuff on the fly.
	And it was Tantaniel, of all people for me to forget, Tantaniel, who did the Father's Day art, which was a nice little piece.
	It was a can, and it was the Noah Gen dad beer.
	It was a little small, but we kind of went with it.
	For the best dad in the universe, Curry Dvorak.
	And then really small letters, if you blew it up, it says, what's that in your mouth?
	And I think that kind of clinched it for us.
	Sick as we are.
	Like, that's a good joke.
	That was cute, yeah.
	For the last episode, 1670...
	We brought in, I mean, I'm not always, you were actually on the Father's Day episode, you were vying for this cheesecake lady, which I protested.
	Oh yeah, you hate women.
	No, I don't.
	I'm like, why does Father's Day have to mean a cheesecake lady?
	That's, I mean, some fathers are not interested.
	That's what dad likes.
	That's what you like.
	That's not what dad likes.
	I just liked the piece.
	I thought it was good.
	And you hate comic strip blogger.
	Well, no I don't.
	I've been friends with him longer than I've been friends with you.
	Same type of friendship.
	No, for 1670 titled The Maloney, Francisco Scaramanga nailed it with the, and this was a cheesecake, but it had cheap fakes on her t-shirt, it had double entendre, it had a lot going for it, and it was just perfect.
	Perfect.
	Wouldn't you say?
	I liked it.
	Yeah.
	But there was another one that we were arguing about.
	Let's take a look.
	The Father's Day one is from the previous show, but I guess it was that show.
	No, we're talking about Cheap Fakes.
	Oh, oh, Darren O'Neill.
	We were looking at Darren O'Neill's Cheap Fakes, 33 Cents, which had the jerreen behind the lemonade stand.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, I like this piece because it was a throwback.
	There's a Peanuts reference, of course, with the Free advice booth.
	Lucy, would you be back there with Charlie Brown?
	Yeah.
	I liked it.
	The Scaramanga piece is probably better in many ways, but the Darren O'Neill piece was good and you criticized it because you said Darren O'Neill's always got this does throw away stuff i said dare no deal no i i didn't criticize it i said the cheap fakes was better you didn't want to choose it because you hate scaramanga that's what was going on you're like that guy he's an a-hole i remember no i never said that but i would say
	but you did remind me that scaramanga did turn on the show you in particular He's a turncoat!
	He turned on the show, said we're a bunch of jerks.
	For no apparent reason.
	And that got me to quit the entire social network they set up.
	The website.
	Just call it that.
	The website.
	And that was the end of that.
	So there was some thought that Scaramanga should not be picked because of that.
	Darren O'Neal doesn't even want to be picked.
	He just wants us to talk about him.
	I think you're right.
	He's a, what is it called when you're an attention whore.
	There you go.
	And that's it.
	Well, all disc jockeys are, I guess, to a degree.
	I think you're right.
	Thank you, Francisco Scaramanga, and thank you to all the artists who are always there trying to beat us to the punch, trying to get something funny, trying to get something in there that we'll like, usually based upon the live content of the show.
	It's not easy what they do, and we just provide all the feedback because you'll never get that in a professional work situation.
	By the way, you can You can become one of the trolls by going to trollroom.io, now forwarding to the new noagenda.stream, which is just dynamite.
	You can become a troll, you can join as a troll, or get one of those modern podcast apps at podcastapps.com, and you'll get notified when we go live.
	You'll get notified within 90 seconds of us publishing the show.
	It's a bonanza.
	It's so cool.
	So we've already mentioned it, that we're going to have to resort to clubbing baby seals, but we do have some people to thank who came in as executive and associate executive producers.
	Now, it's important to understand that the value for value model works when you just send something back to the show, depending on how much value it means to you.
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	We appreciate it.
	Now, of course, there are people who can't make art, can't run meetups or servers, etc.
	But they like being executive and associate executive producers, and they show that with their pocketbook.
	And they do that by going to noagendadonations.com.
	And we kick it off with Jim Coleman, who comes in from Haarlem in the Netherlands with $343.75, which I'm going to presume is a $333.33 with some fees added.
	Appreciate that.
	is a 333.33 with some fees added.
	Appreciate that.
	And he says, two sad puppies, JCD.
	Super pathetic!
	Well done!
	Perfect.
	Thank you very much, Jim.
	You understand how it works.
	Yeah, one guy.
	Yep.
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	Abelson Don Santos.
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	Three, four, three, seven, five.
	Great to hear from you always.
	Appreciate your deconstruction in the media and calling out ops.
	Yes, we do that.
	Abelson Dos Santos in Luanda.
	We have Marianne Schneeberger from Cary, North Carolina, 222.63.
	And it's a switcheroo.
	She says, in the morning, gentlemen, in addition to last week's contribution, please accept our total donation.
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	So that was yesterday and we have the switcheroo noted as requested.
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	Goat Karma and Reverend Al would make a delightful addition to all the other noises going on in his head.
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	One of the great wine-growing areas of the world.
	ITM Chaps.
	John posts a pair of puppies in the newsletter I better donate.
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	Oh man, I gotta tell you.
	My sinuses are so messed up.
	Something happened on the plane.
	I could barely sleep last night.
	Bless you.
	I've been sneezing too.
	Yeah, you were on a plane.
	For 12 hours or whatever.
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	Switcheroo!
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	All right, let me put Kim in there.
	We'll change that right away.
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	Can I get a biscuit for her birthday and all the Sharpton you can bear?
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	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
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	She sent a note and a check.
	Uh, and she may be one of our, uh, the next Linda Lou Patkin.
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	Dame Anne with an E. A.K.A.
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	I can't wait to try it because she got a lot of impressive letters after her name.
	Yes, she does.
	She's a holistic, herbal, and homeopathic medicine person in Florida.
	Tranquilize.
	Oh, I get it.
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	Now I get it.
	Duh.
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	It tranquilizes you.
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	She has a nice little signature that we should Matthew B. Lambert is from Fouquet Varina, North Carolina.
	21060, no note that I can see, so we get a double up Karma there.
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	I discovered I can play this tune while I'm blowing my nose. . .
	There you go.
	What the heck?
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	So, uh... So, uh... So, uh... Did you see Andrew Cuomo on Bill Maher?
	No.
	No.
	I did not.
	I dodged the bullet, clearly.
	You dodged the bullet.
	So he's sitting there next to Kissinger.
	I don't know why they got this guy.
	Oh, the crybaby?
	The crybaby Kissinger?
	The crybaby.
	And they do something that Cuomo obviously decides to throw the Democratic Party under the bus.
	And I think it's worth playing.
	It's got nothing to do with any more clips.
	But this was, to me, it was posted quite a bit.
	I just took the regular posting of it and play it here.
	The trial in New York.
	The one he got convicted for was the greatest fundraising bonanza ever.
	He's now, he was lagging behind Biden and now he's pulled quite a bit ahead.
	That trial was the greatest reason people had to send their checks for 5, 10, 25, whatever dollars to Donald Trump.
	So I, and I was always with you on the one in New York, the hush money trial.
	I don't think they should have brought that one.
	It was just always going to look like a sex case and people were always just going to look at it that way.
	That case, the Attorney General's case in New York, frankly should have never been brought.
	And if his name was not Donald Trump, and if he wasn't running for president from the former AG in New York, I'm telling you that case would have never been brought.
	And that's what is offensive to people.
	And it should be.
	Because if there's anything left, it's belief in the justice system.
	Why is he doing that?
	I wonder myself.
	It was like he threw the whole party under the bus.
	I think it's because he never got the support he expected to stay in as governor.
	And he's irked.
	He's irked.
	And now he's a critic.
	Either that or part of the giant scheme to make sure Trump gets in.
	Well, I'm thinking that.
	But if you look at our official lawyer of the show, Rob.
	He always sends me an updated schedule of all of the lawsuits that Trump is involved in.
	How many can you name?
	I can only name three or four.
	Yeah, there's like nine.
	Yeah.
	So we have the hush money case in New York, right?
	Where that's, I guess we're still waiting sentencing.
	We have the civil fraud in New York.
	Trump and others falsely inflated property values to obtain loans.
	We have the Dominion Case Dominion claims it was defamed when Trump's campaign allegedly made false accusations that a Dominion executive helped rig the 2020 election.
	That's in Colorado.
	Georgia state criminal trial.
	Trump and 13 others allegedly meddled in Georgia's 2020 presidential election.
	That's the Fannie Willis case.
	January 6th, immunity.
	This is in the DC District.
	Of course, the DC Circuit, perhaps the SCOTUS federal criminal.
	Trump allegedly incited an insurrection on January 6th, which allegedly had the effect of obstructing official government proceedings and defrauded the United States and other things.
	That's Jack Smith.
	Then we have what I think is interesting.
	This is not necessarily involving Trump, but this is also in DC.
	There's a separate January 6th defendant, Joseph Fisher, who was charged with assault and he's arguing that DOJ can't use Sarbanes-Oxley to prosecute him.
	Which is phenomenal.
	Somehow they're trying to convict him of violating Sarbanes-Oxley, which I'm not quite sure how that works.
	Then we have the Southern District, Florida, the classified documents, mishandling.
	Michigan AG filed charges against 15 Republican electors for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election.
	Trump is not amongst the 15, but of course it has to do with him.
	Arizona, that's the 18 Republicans, Giuliani, Mark Meadows.
	We have the Gene Carroll defamation cases, two of them.
	I mean, it's amazing what they've done.
	Yeah, all after he said he was going to run for president.
	Yes, that's what makes it so great.
	Everyone came after he made the announcement, some within three days.
	That's what makes it so cool.
	Yes.
	Well, the only thing I think they accomplished what they wanted.
	I don't think these cases are going to go anywhere now because the idea was to get him convicted of something.
	And it's been discussed and discussed.
	And they say that people on the inside that are at the at the hideout where Biden's being prepped and jacked up.
	It's called Camp David.
	Camp David.
	But it's in the basement just so he feels comfortable.
	And so The idea is he's going to throw out the term convicted felon, which is all they really wanted to get out of this, all these cases.
	Somebody, because the rest of these have been put off now, these cases are not going to come to fruition.
	But they got what they wanted, which is convicted felon.
	Before the sentencing and before anything that can reverse the decision can go into play, because this is next Thursday they're going to have the debate, and Biden is going to drop the convicted felon bomb at the debate.
	Trump will be ready for that.
	Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to see what ready means in that regard.
	I don't know.
	You'll be ready, but what's he gonna say?
	I predict huge numbers on that CNN broadcast.
	That is going to break all records.
	And it's kind of interesting because it's in a way to throw back to the 60s, I think.
	The way they're running it is very similar to the Kennedy-Nixon debate.
	You know, just a studio, no audience, answer question, then you answer the question very quote-unquote civilized.
	Yeah, right.
	So I was looking into Jake Tapper's background.
	Spook.
	Because he's going to be one of the two hosts, him and Dana Bash.
	Well, Dana Bash was literally married to a spook.
	Yes, exactly.
	So if you read I think it's even in his Wikipedia.
	Jake Tapper takes credit.
	You know the first CNN debate with Hillary and Trump back in 2016, 2015, 2016 era.
	One of the debates was at CNN and because everyone was really interested in this debate.
	Where they gave Hillary the questions?
	Donna Brazile?
	Yeah, right.
	Donna Brazile gave her the quote.
	But the point is that it got the highest rating CNN ever got.
	Yeah.
	And they credit it because of the presence of Jake Tapper.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, if I recall correctly, one of our producers was in catering and catered The assistant CIA director's birthday?
	Either that or FBI and Jake Tapper was there just working the room.
	Of course!
	That's sources say.
	So this will be a huge blockbuster even though ABC is going to also carry it.
	It'll be big numbers for CNN even though it's going to be watered down because ABC is also going to do a simulcast.
	I don't know how they got that to happen.
	But, you know, it happened.
	And it'll be because of Tapper.
	Everyone wants to see him.
	Tapper's the man.
	He's the man of the hour.
	He's the man about town.
	Uh, there's two incidents with Southwest that I just need to handle for a second here.
	The FAA is investigating another concerning incident on a Southwest Airlines flight after a plane appeared to come dangerously close to homes near Oklahoma City.
	For some reason, they blew through an assigned altitude and continued to get very close to the ground.
	The Boeing 737, which took off from Las Vegas Tuesday night, was descending into Oklahoma City's airport just after midnight when it dropped as low as 525 feet over the city of Yukon, passing just over a high school.
	A low-altitude alarm alerted air traffic control, which contacted the cockpit.
	The air traffic controller in the tower saved the day by telling them, check your altitude.
	This is what I find so interesting.
	There's a couple of things in this report, and it was very similar everywhere.
	So the flight goes too low, clearly, because they're still on their approach and they are low.
	And the tower says, hey, we got a low altitude warning.
	You guys OK?
	He didn't say, check your altimeter!
	No, he didn't say that.
	He said, you guys OK?
	Everything all right?
	To which they replied, yeah, we're good.
	And then they increased their altitude.
	Good.
	The air traffic controller in the tower saved the day by telling them check your altitude.
	The plane landed safely but local residents flooded social media saying they thought the plane was going to hit their homes.
	It was night.
	It was late.
	Perhaps the crew was tired.
	They were descending over the prairie so there was no lights or no visual reference.
	It was essentially descending over a black hole.
	I don't know who this Jamoke is who's reporting on this, but you are looking at your altimeter.
	You are looking at the height of your aircraft.
	You're not looking out into the black hole.
	Where are we?
	Can you see anything, Bob?
	I don't know.
	The only thing I can imagine that happened here is they didn't set their pressure altitude, known as the QNH, which gives you the correct altitude reading based upon the barometric pressure.
	Maybe that happened, or maybe they're just really inexperienced.
	Either way, this should not have happened.
	DEI, baby!
	That's possible, and this kind of goes into the next story, which is part of this report.
	You know, whenever I fly, and I fly the Cirrus from the flight school, if I go to Dallas with Tina, who doesn't really love flying in this little plane, but I always take the instructor because I'm gonna be 60 in September, I'm not fast, I don't fly enough that I can, especially Dallas area where there's four airports, it's very busy, and if you're on the radio and you go, Then the next thing the air traffic control does, okay, you go fly out 20 minutes that way.
	We'll call you back later when you think you're ready to come in.
	So, but these are 25 to 28 year olds.
	And I fly what, maybe twice a year, maybe three times a year to go somewhere.
	It's always a new instructor because they are getting zapped up right away, straight into the airlines.
	A lot of them female, and they're low hours.
	They've got 700 to maybe 1,000 hours, so they get another 500.
	Then you can fly, according to law, you can fly on a jet, on a big one, a passenger jet, but they really don't have Just all the experience, and whatever happened with the pilots, you know, I think a lot of them died, a lot of them retired, a lot of them got out of the business.
	There's not necessarily, I don't know about DEI, but there's not a lot of experiential airmen and airwomen who are in the business now, and this is what we're seeing.
	They were given clearance for a visual approach, so they were looking out at the lights of Oklahoma City, looking for the airport.
	And for some reason they missed that assigned altitude.
	Perhaps it was distraction in the cockpit.
	Earlier this week, it was revealed a Southwest plane from Hawaii came within just 400 feet of slamming into the ocean back in April.
	A memo saying a newer first officer accidentally pushed forward the control column.
	This is unbelievable to me because they were executing a go around.
	It was horrible weather.
	There was a lot of torrential rain.
	A lot of airplanes were doing go around, which is, hey, I don't feel good.
	I don't think we should land.
	Let's just, let's go around.
	We'll try it again.
	And so what you do then is you, you push the throttle forward, you pull back on the control column.
	Eventually you want to put the, you know, put the flaps back in the right position.
	Why someone would push forward on the column, that person should not be in the cockpit.
	I don't know what happened there.
	All I know is that the real good pilots who are from Navy and Air Force, they're not going to airlines that have Boeing anymore.
	They're all going to Airbus outfits, particularly FedEx and anything else that doesn't have passengers and has Airbus.
	They don't want to fly Boeing, and Southwest is all Boeing.
	So that's my report.
	Well, that stinks.
	It does stink.
	It's not a happy report.
	There are C-5 pilots you'd think could fly anything.
	Yeah, but they don't want to fly that.
	They don't want to fly Southwest.
	I guess not.
	No.
	It's Pride Month, John.
	Time to make fun.
	Yes, I've only had my one opportunity for this.
	I guess you must have a few clips.
	I do, yes.
	I got some Chicago local news.
	The University of Illinois has received an award for their, let me see, what is it?
	The LGBTQ plus health care equality high performer.
	And boy, the ladies on the show were all jitty.
	It's a two-parter.
	It's Pride Month.
	The University of Illinois Hospital and Clinics have a lot to celebrate.
	UI Health has been recognized as an LGBTQ plus health care equality leader for the ninth year in a row.
	That means they are going beyond the basics when it comes to adopting policies and practices in queer care.
	Dr. Mimi Arquilla.
	Queer care.
	Here it is, John.
	That's the new one.
	Queer care we have now.
	Healthcare?
	No.
	Queer care.
	It comes to adopting policies and practices in queer care.
	Dr. Mimi Arquilla and Carl Johnson join us now with more.
	Thank you so much for being here.
	Thanks for having us.
	Thank you.
	So, doctor, tell us what this designation really means.
	Doctor, what is queer care?
	Can we start there?
	It means that our health care facility was evaluated in four areas, and those areas being the programs and services we provide for LGBTQ plus people, what our foundational practices are in terms of our organization, in terms of our involvement with the community, And also in terms of our employee benefits and services.
	And so we provide services in all four of those areas.
	And we do it, we feel very well.
	And that is how we got that designation.
	It's because we were able to achieve high status, high standards in those areas.
	And it's so important to promote inclusive care.
	What does that mean?
	Tell all of our viewers.
	By the way, this clearly woman who you're hearing, female voice, is dressed and looks like a dude.
	What does that mean?
	Tell all of our viewers.
	Yeah, so I think when understanding inclusive care, you first have to kind of understand that not everyone has the same experience in healthcare, and that can be for a lot of reasons.
	It can be because of gender, sexual orientation.
	orientation, race, insurance status, lots of different things.
	And with inclusive care, the goal is to provide high quality care to everyone.
	And to do that, you really have to break down barriers and meet the community where it's at and really address those needs.
	So I was about to throw this clip away.
	I'm like, they said absolutely nothing other than we excel at queer care, which is just, it's just offensive.
	What is queer care?
	I mean, that's not even a gender.
	But now we have queer care.
	And I would have tossed it out had I not gotten a complete explanation of what they really won the award for in this second clip.
	Talk about some of those hesitations that people might face in going to get care where someone may not even think that this is something that other people are facing.
	Yeah, so there's a lot of reasons people don't like going to the doctor.
	I think in particular for LGBTQ people, it can It can be fearful of other situations that have happened that have been unpleasant, like being called the wrong name, being misgendered, asked invasive questions that don't really have to do with what you're there for, or just having a provider who doesn't know a whole lot about LGBTQ health.
	And as someone who's not only a doctor but a patient and has had all of those experiences at other health care institutions, I completely understand why people don't want to go to the doctor, and I really empathize with them.
	and But I think it also kind of drives me to advocate for, you know, a really great healthcare experience.
	And, you know, similar to UI Health, you know, the guiding forces kind of treat others the way you'd want to be treated.
	And in doing so, you know, there's a lot of things to make people more comfortable at the doctor or in the healthcare setting.
	All right, we're getting down to it.
	So, it's about being misgendered, and what actually can we do to win this award and make you feel comfortable?
	And, you know, some of those things are as easy as wearing, like, a pronoun pin to let people know your pronouns.
	Asking people their name, their pronouns, using those correctly, and just creating that welcoming environment.
	It's about the pronouns.
	Yes, it's all about wearing a pronoun pin so people know that you're an ally and that you care about pronouns.
	That's it!
	Because this person was misgendered somewhere.
	And this went on for 10 minutes!
	Queer care.
	Wow.
	But I love your insurance status.
	I literally have no health insurance.
	But you have some sort of Texas thing?
	Now I have, um, you know, we have crowd health, which is, uh, um, it's, it's, it's crowdfunding.
	So you, you pay like 300 bucks a month.
	No, that's reasonable.
	And that, well, yeah, but we were paying 1800 a month for the two of us.
	That's not reasonable and deductible $16,000.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah.
	This is ridiculous.
	Um, it's just the whole thing.
	It's a jip.
	It's just a complete jip.
	But if you go for the queer care, you don't have to have any insurance.
	You're queer, we'll take care of you.
	Maybe you should go queer.
	I might have to.
	There seems to be some benefits.
	So I, just to change topics a little bit, I do have a clip since we brought up the very beginning of the show, which was what can trigger a collapse of the AI phenomenon.
	Yeah.
	And so I have this, what I call the wow clip, which is a clip that addresses this a little bit.
	It's from NPR.
	It's about the Clearview suit that is not really being covered very well.
	Clearview.
	Are those the guys that that sell all the pictures to the cops?
	Yeah.
	Facial recognition company.
	Yeah.
	That company.
	Yeah.
	Play?
	Yep, just play.
	The facial recognition startup Clearview AI reached a settlement in the lawsuit alleging its massive photo collection of faces violated the subject's privacy rights.
	Attorneys say the deal could be worth more than $50 million.
	Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman gave preliminary approval to the agreement yesterday, but the unique agreement gives plaintiffs in the case a share of the company's potential value rather than a traditional payout.
	What makes this wow to me is that these companies have finally, especially a public company, decided, hey, what if we do the payout of these lawsuits in stock?
	I thought that was genius.
	That is a good idea.
	Yeah, okay, we owe what?
	A hundred million dollars?
	Okay, let's issue some more stock.
	Now, do they do an offering for that?
	They do a secondary?
	I think it would be a private offering.
	You could do it.
	There's all kinds of scammish ways to do it.
	They could do a pipe!
	They could do a lot of things, but it's just genius as far as I'm concerned.
	Companies note this.
	You know, even if Ford, say Ford, you know, General Motors, they have it.
	Ford during the Pinto era.
	Instead of giving people money... You have some stock!
	You have some stock!
	That is a good idea.
	Well, speaking of lawsuits or legal matters, so, you know, although there's not a lot of reporting in the U.S.
	per se about the Saudi Arabia de-dollarizing, I'm just going to use that term, by apparently not renewing the deal to only sell their oil in U.S.
	dollars, making the U.S.
	dollar the reserve currency, Well, I think that we're starting to nudge them a little bit as CBS out of the blue, the CIA broadcasting system, starts to bring up an old story which includes the 28 pages that were not included in the 9-11 Commission report.
	Oh yeah!
	The CBS News exclusive, the unnerving video outside the U.S.
	Capitol, filmed two years before the 9-11 attacks.
	Good evening, I'm Nora O'Donnell, and thank you for being with us.
	Two decades ago, the 9-11 Commission found that al-Qaeda acted alone.
	But victims' families say that is not true, pointing to this video and other evidence as proof.
	They are suing Saudi Arabia, claiming its government provided crucial assistance to the hijackers and planners behind the September 11th attacks.
	A voice on the video says in Arabic, I am transmitting these scenes to you from the heart of the American capital, Washington.
	This video, unsealed in federal court this week and obtained by 60 Minutes, was recorded in the summer of 1999.
	The man behind the camera is Omar al-Bayoumi, who the FBI says was an operative of the Saudi intelligence service with close ties to two of the 9-11 hijackers.
	The video was filmed over several days.
	Bayoumi recorded entrances and exits of the capital, security posts, A model of the building and nearby landmarks.
	In this portion of the video, Bayoumi points out the Washington Monument and says, I will get over there and report to you in detail what is there.
	He also notes the airport is not far away.
	So then they bring in a whole bunch of former spooks to confirm this, and this was probably related to Flight 93.
	Richard Lambert is a retired FBI agent who led the initial 9-11 investigation in San Diego, where Bayoumi and the two hijackers lived temporarily before the attacks.
	He's now a consultant on the case filed by the 9-11 families.
	If you've ever flown into Washington, D.C., one of the first things you see on the horizon is the Washington Monument.
	So if you know where your other targets are in terms of the Washington Monument, it helps guide you to your intended target.
	Federal investigators believe the hijackers on Flight 93, which crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, had the U.S.
	Capitol as their likely target.
	The lawyers for the 9-11 families and former intelligence analysts we spoke to believe portions of the video show Bayoumi surveilling the Capitol as part of that plan.
	And in the video, he references a quote, plan.
	You said that in the plan.
	What plan?
	Who is he talking to?
	What do you think he's talking about?
	I think he's talking to the Al-Qaeda planners who tasked him to take the pre-operational surveillance video of the intended target.
	So this video is taken in late June and early July of 1999.
	What does that timing tell you?
	Well, that means it was taken within 90 days of the time when senior Al-Qaeda planners reached the decision that the Capitol would be a target of the 9-11 attacks.
	That's when Osama bin Laden decided to approve Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's so-called planes operation.
	In the days after 9-11, British police discovered the video during a raid on Bayoumi's UK apartment.
	They also seized Bayoumi's handwritten address book that the lawyers for the 9-11 family say was filled with phone numbers of numerous senior Saudi officials who were in the government at the time.
	I don't believe any of this story, of course, but that's not the point.
	The point is, okay, Saudi Arabia, we got your number.
	We'll go back to the 9-11 situation.
	At the time, there was a lot of discussion about suing Saudi Arabia.
	Yes.
	And our government blocked it.
	Yes, because we had to deal with them.
	No, no, no, you can't sue them because they're our friends.
	And so it got, like, never happened, and then this, this, but we all knew that there was some, some information that was left out of the report, and so, which could be anything that could create, if you had a number of years to create, this whole thing could be, like, you think is maybe a fake.
	But yes, this is exactly right.
	This is a little pressure point, because if Saudi Arabia got blamed and sued by all these, by the 3,000 families that were harmed, it would be a nightmare.
	That was the idea, to prevent the nightmare.
	And now, okay, you guys are gonna screw us out of our petro-dollar deal that you agreed to?
	Either re-sign up, or the nightmare begins.
	That's what this is.
	There's a little annoying fact about it.
	That was a good find.
	I'll give you a clip of the day.
	Wow.
	Well, thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Unexpected, but...
	I just came across it.
	I'm like, hey, it's a winner.
	Let me clip that.
	Let me clip that.
	Yeah, that's what the show is all about.
	That's what it's always about.
	But I want to move into Israel.
	It's now just Israel versus everybody.
	I do have the Gaza Update from PBS if you want to just start with that.
	Oh yeah, we'll start with that.
	Hold on a second.
	Gaza Update, PBS, here we go.
	Death toll in Gaza climbed higher today following two Israeli airstrikes on separate locations.
	One hit a refugee camp and another struck an eastern neighborhood of Gaza City.
	Palestinian and hospital officials said at least 39 people were killed.
	Israel's military said they were targeting two Hamas military sites.
	And in Tel Aviv tonight, thousands of people rallied to demand new elections and call for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to reach a deal to bring hostages home.
	They keep trying to get him out!
	He's just like, nope, nope, I'm just gonna sit here.
	It's mostly Western reporting that talks about this.
	To the Middle East reporting, there's less of it, of him trying to get him out.
	I think this is us trying to get him out.
	Well, I don't think we're trying to, well, maybe the Biden administration, but the whole idea here is exactly what we heard from Massey, Representative Massey, who said these military industrial complex donors to AIPAC They want war.
	They want more war.
	They want war not just within Gaza.
	That's just a starter pack.
	We want to go to Lebanon.
	It's on the West Clark 7.
	And they want to get to Iran.
	And that's where this is headed.
	Here's NPR.
	We have to remember the Lebanese state is extremely weak and Hezbollah was created with the help of Iran largely to fight Israel after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982.
	Nasrallah said his group is much better armed now.
	And as an example, he noted drone footage released this week with detailed images of potential targets in Haifa, Israel's major port city.
	He gloated that with all of Israel's air defenses, the drone was able to slip through them.
	And he said that if there were war, Hezbollah would fight with what he said were no rules.
	As for reaction, Israel's foreign minister dismissed Israel's remarks saying that if it came to war, Hezbollah would be destroyed and Lebanon severely hit.
	And Israel also has interests in a gas field off the coast of Lebanon.
	Oh yes, yes, Leviathan!
	Leviathan, right over there, beautiful.
	And the BBC, of course, chimed in.
	The UN chief, Antonio Guterres, has warned that escalating tensions on Israel's northern border could trigger a catastrophe and turn Lebanon into, quote, another Gaza.
	All-out conflict has been threatening to erupt there since the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah began firing missiles into northern Israel following the October 7th massacre, prompting tit-for-tat responses from Israel.
	It's so interesting how this happens.
	Like, well, you know, we're almost done there in Gaza.
	We've killed everybody.
	You know what?
	Why don't we lob some missiles in?
	It's our turn now.
	Now we're going to do it.
	Israeli strikes into southern Lebanon have displaced more than 90,000 people on the Lebanese side of the border.
	But some have stayed, saying it's better to die at home with dignity than be driven out of their land like the Palestinians.
	The fear of all-out war extends as far as the capital, Beirut, where some say they keep suitcases packed and passports ready in case full-scale war breaks out.
	Hezbollah is a well-trained, well-armed military, backed by Iran.
	Its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has threatened to invade Israel if full-scale war breaks out, and says nowhere in the country will be spared.
	But Israel has been talking up its readiness to take them on.
	Tough talk is part of both sides' strategy of deterrence.
	But the line between deterrence and decision on a war is becoming harder to see.
	But the longer this conflict goes on, the more it turns into playing with fire.
	I mean, war is such great business.
	I mean, how's Raytheon stock?
	Is that doing anything?
	Let me take a look at the year to date.
	Oh yeah!
	It was at $85 in January.
	It's $105 now.
	Beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	Raytheon stock up.
	That's great.
	You know?
	And remember, all my Iranian friends always say, oh, no, no, no.
	America and Iran, they play these games together.
	And then when we have Russia doing deals with North Korea, you can't make this up.
	South Korea has condemned a defense pact that North Korea signed with Russia earlier this week.
	The foreign ministry called it a threat to peace and stability on the Korean peninsula.
	Seoul summoned Russia's ambassador to the foreign ministry to discuss its concerns.
	While the details of the military pact are still murky, South Korea is worried that it could encourage North Korean aggression.
	Seoul announced in response that it was considering sending weapons to Ukraine to support its defense against Russia.
	Are you kidding me?
	So now we have North Korea and South Korea representing Russia and Ukraine?
	Are you kidding me?
	Frank, Vladimir Putin warned Seoul that supporting Ukraine would be a very big mistake.
	How is Seoul interpreting that warning?
	Well, I think Seoul is still interpreting that warning.
	One of the articles of this agreement suggested that each country, North Korea and Russia, would come to each other's aid with all means if they were in a state of war.
	The Korean War ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty, so a state of war arguably exists now on the Korean Peninsula.
	This is just sick.
	It's unbelievable.
	They're just pushing it right in our face.
	Oh, look, we'll make some more war stuff over here.
	You know, spend more on war.
	That's a good way to waste money.
	Yeah, we got people with Trank just upside down in the streets.
	Bent over.
	So I have my two Ukraine... Ukraine.
	I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing it.
	Ukraine.
	I got a couple of Ukraine updates.
	One from NPR and contrasting with one from PBS.
	Okay.
	I think they're both short, but let's see how they do.
	Let's start with NPR.
	Russia launched a major attack of guided bombs on Kharkiv, Ukraine's second biggest city overnight, killing at least three people and injuring more than a dozen.
	Witnesses say four explosions were heard around the city and Moscow also targeted Ukraine's power grid for the eighth time in the past three months.
	Ukraine's Air Force says its defense systems shot down 12 of the 16 missiles and all 13 drones launched by Russia.
	Ma'am, Eric Schmidt's making out on this deal.
	Remember, he was doing all the drones in Ukraine?
	He's making out.
	No, I don't remember that.
	Yeah, he had a whole sit-down with Fareed Zakaria.
	And he was like, oh, drones, it's gonna be drones.
	And he was right.
	It's all drones.
	Everyone's drones.
	Well, actually, the guided bombs are the more, they, it's interesting that NPR mentioned the guided bombs, which is really what the Russians are, that no one can stop these things because they're coming down at the speed of, you know, gravity.
	Right, the glide bombs.
	They're not buzzing around.
	I find it interesting that PBS, I don't believe in this clip, even mentions the guided bombs.
	Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Russia has launched more than 2,400 guided missiles at Ukrainian targets this month alone.
	His remarks followed a deadly day of attacks that killed three people and injured dozens more in Kharkiv, that's Ukraine's second largest city.
	Zelensky said Ukraine needs more help from Western allies.
	So I got some useful news from Africa News.
	It's not about Africa.
	This is the only place I could find this where Putin is reaching out to NATO.
	During a briefing with graduate military and law enforcement schools in Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed his willingness to engage in discussions regarding security matters with NATO member countries.
	Recently at a meeting with the leadership of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, I outlined our vision on the work to create equal and indivisible security in Eurasia.
	We are ready for a broad international discussion of these key vital issues, both with our colleagues in the Shanghai Corporation Organization, the CIS, the Eurasian Economic Community, BRICS, and other international associations, European and NATO states, among others, naturally European and NATO states, among others, naturally at a time when they are ready for this.
	In addition, Putin pledged to enhance the nuclear capabilities of his nation and equip the military with a state-of-art weaponry.
	So, he wants to talk, but in the meantime, ramp up the nukes.
	They don't want to talk.
	No, of course they don't want to talk.
	Let him talk to himself.
	They never talk about peace.
	Ever.
	Ever.
	I have... There's no money in it.
	Peace is not profitable.
	I have some updates on the bird flu, which has gone kind of quiet during this week.
	Yes, I noticed this.
	During this week of the debate.
	First we have Larkin, soon to be Dame Malarkey.
	And she provides a boots on the ground.
	She says, I'm a third generation farmer in California and have so much farming information to share with you guys.
	It is our busy season, but I'll try to send more info soon.
	Although the war on chickens jingle is one of the best.
	I believe it is.
	I believe it is a war on protein, beef, dairy and chicken and just farmers in general.
	Notice you don't hear much about pork.
	This is true.
	Of course, the Chinese own the pork industry in the U.S., Smithfield Foods.
	We don't hear much about pork.
	It's only chicken, beef, dairy, not about pork.
	It's interesting.
	I think, yes, and the pork prices are extremely low right now.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, the summer of pork.
	That's what we talked about.
	Chinese pork.
	Talked about the summer of pork.
	I literally said the summer of pork on the show.
	Yeah, alright.
	Don't make me look it up.
	No, I don't want you to look it up.
	And I reached out to my friends who did very well in the testing business during COVID.
	Your buddies.
	Yep.
	And I said, what are you hearing about the bird flu?
	Here's what came back.
	The CDC made a call out last week to CLIA certified laboratories, asking them to create rapid tests for bird flu, just like they did when COVID started and a surplus of rapid tests popped up on the market.
	I'll keep you posted.
	So.
	Oh, that'd mean more free tests.
	Yeah.
	I could load up.
	We know it's a bonanza.
	We know it's a bonanza.
	Yeah, well I get to test for free, but somebody's paying for them.
	Exactly.
	The taxpayer.
	The U.S.
	government.
	Yes, the vape wars.
	The vape wars are back on.
	I see you have two vape war clips.
	I'd like to start with whatever you have.
	Yeah, these are kind of pathetic.
	Oh, good.
	Let's start with those.
	Let's start with the pathetic clips.
	Yeah, this is about trying to get kids off of these things, and this is considered a crisis.
	Uh-huh.
	So let's go.
	It's a teen vape crisis.
	This is good stuff.
	One of my friends was so addicted, she would say things like, I'll just die at 20, whatever.
	2.1 million teens vaped in 2023, a third of whom were just in middle school.
	What, uh, who's doing this reporting?
	What outfit?
	I believe this is NPR.
	At a Senate hearing Wednesday, lawmakers asked the FDA why it's failing to tackle the problems.
	This is a shelf full of potentially dangerous substances in a store in the shadow of the FDA building.
	I'm just trying to figure out if any of this is illegal or how in the hell it's legal.
	Senator Tom Tillis points to flavors such as strawberry, dragon fruit, watermelon, even watermelon bubblegum.
	The FDA's Director of Tobacco Products, Brian King, never directly answered.
	We do have a pre-market paradigm for reviewing applications and the sheer volume of those applications and the volume of the market requires us to prioritize our enforcement efforts.
	But the president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, Yolanda Richardson, answered in his place.
	FDA failed to assert its regulatory authority over e-cigarettes until a substantial e-cigarette market had already formed and e-cigarettes had already become the most popular tobacco product among youth.
	FDA then further delayed.
	E-cigarette popularity exploded in the mid-2000s when they entered the market.
	The U.S.
	market was valued at $28 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow at a compound annual rate of 30.6% from 2023 to 2030.
	point six percent from 2023 to 2030 only 23 e-cigarette brands are authorized for sale in the u.s but over 6 000 brands are on the market what is this is real this is actually quite good because i know what this is about out.
	What is interesting is they keep saying e-cigarette and tobacco product.
	Vape is not a tobacco product.
	There's no tobacco in it.
	Nicotine, yes.
	But that's not a tobacco.
	This was the whole problem.
	Is that kids were vaping and they weren't smoking, so the MSA, the Master States Agreement, that, you know, the tax money was going down, down, down because these kids are not on tobacco.
	Now, all of a sudden, vape is an e-cigarette and it's a tobacco product.
	This is the new.
	This is the new thing they're doing.
	This is a big switcheroo.
	Well, they've done a good job of it.
	You know, the funny thing, as I had to listen to and recorded and edited these reports, I don't see anybody using vapes at all in the Bay Area.
	Well, you're about to, and I'll tell you why, but I want to hear your second clip.
	Okay, well, let's play clip two, and then you can tell me why.
	Over a quarter of youth e-cigarette users use the products every day.
	One of the primary reasons, as you have heard, children are attracted to e-cigarettes is the sweet fruit, candy, and mint flavors they come in.
	Dr. Susan Wally helps people get off nicotine products.
	She says it's very difficult to get children to quit because of the high nicotine volume in vapes.
	The adolescent brain is more susceptible to nicotine addiction, so symptoms of dependence can appear in days to weeks of first experimentation.
	She says for most teens, usage is consistent, frequent, and dependent, such as the case with high schooler Josie Shapiro.
	The first flavor I tried was blueberry ice, but I tried pretty much every flavor my friends had.
	I thought I was just enjoying the flavors, but soon my 14-year-old brain craved the nicotine more and more.
	Shapiro is still addicted.
	She says vaping is affecting her mood, her ability to breathe, her skin, and her social life.
	I've tried to quit vaping over and over again, but it's really, really hard.
	Everything in my life is a trigger.
	Hanging out with friends, driving my car, going to the bathroom, going into the convenience store.
	All of it makes me want to vape.
	The FDA and Department of Justice have pledged further cooperation in battling teen vaping.
	They're forming a task force with several other agencies, including the Postal Service.
	Yes.
	Before you go on with your analysis, I don't know if you noticed this, but she said she's a 14 year older.
	It's her 14 year old brain.
	Yeah.
	She's reading from a script.
	And then she said she was driving a car.
	Isn't that interesting?
	How does that work?
	How does it for, you know, if she's stolen, like, steals cars?
	She doesn't have a license if she's 14.
	Joyriding!
	We used to do that back in the day.
	There's something about this report that, that kind of bothered me.
	All right.
	So we have to go back, and I know we have vape experts out there who will help me if I go astray, and please feel free to email me, because I'm a vaper, but it's not an e-cigarette, okay?
	It's a big battery, and I wind the coil, and I've got, you know, pure cotton, not from China.
	So first, we had Juul.
	This is really what it was, the Juul e-cigarette, the vape.
	Which was, you know, you put in a little thing in there, a little cartridge, and Reynolds bought it.
	Who owns Marlboro?
	Is that Philip Morris?
	Philip Morris, I guess.
	They bought it.
	They bought it.
	They tanked the company.
	Blue the company up.
	What's happened now is all these companies that wanted to have, especially these flavors, they're all out of business because the FDA said you can only get something on the market if you pay to have every single flavor and every nicotine level tested at about a million bucks per flavor per nicotine level.
	So all these companies are out of business.
	Vaping is pretty much is dead.
	Except for the Chinese, that's why the Postal Service was involved in that report.
	The Chinese are flooding the market with absolute crap, because all these flavors, whatever, who knows what they're putting in that.
	But that's not what this is about.
	This is about bringing back Juul.
	I think one or two shows ago, we had the FDA going, oh yeah, no Juul, yeah, we're going to approve you now.
	And right on cue, after they took menthol cigarettes out, Menthol cigarettes.
	Who smokes menthol cigarettes?
	Black America smokes menthol cigarettes.
	Let's bring them back in, people.
	The FDA has approved the sale of the first menthol e-cigarettes for adults.
	The authorization does not mean vaping is safe, but health officials say it can be a little bit less harmful as an alternative to regular cigarettes.
	The move already is getting pushback from anti-smoking groups.
	Who argue it's only going to fuel the youth vaping epidemic further.
	And why do they want all this?
	This is because of Senate Bill 2929 to amend Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide tax rate parity among all tobacco products and for other purposes.
	And this is also known as the... What is this called?
	The Tobacco Tax Equity Act.
	And what do they insert into the tax code?
	Nicotine.
	Taxable nicotine.
	Remember, it's not a tobacco product.
	So now, oh yeah, this is how we do it.
	You want to do something bad, kids?
	No problem, as long as we can tax it.
	So now they're going to tax the vapes.
	And now we make it legal again.
	We just have to get the Chinese stuff off of the market.
	It's so insidious.
	They ruined a burgeoning industry, almost got Trump in on the deal, if you remember.
	Then Melania saying, oh no, this vaping is bad, and then Trump was like, yeah, and then he spun on a dime and dropped out of that whole thing.
	Because this was the scam they were pulling.
	They ruined all competition, gave it to the big tobacco guys, and now they make it legal again.
	With their approved tobacco products, which is not tobacco, it's nicotine, and it's taxed.
	It's a beautiful scam.
	It's excellent.
	I have to say, if you're going to do it, do it well.
	But don't pretend like, you know, these little scraps... You can pretend all you want, doesn't matter, nobody cares.
	I care.
	But you're the only one.
	I'm not the only, I'm not the only vapor.
	No, I'm saying you're the only one who cares about the scam.
	Oh, well, because I'm not in on it!
	Which, by the way, is a very interesting take.
	I'm not in on the scam!
	I'm going to expose the scams I'm not involved in!
	One more clip I wanted to play about the Anti-Defamation League, because this just cracked me up.
	This is too funny.
	It's from Morning Joe, so it's like everyone's going crazy.
	What side are we supposed to be on?
	We have to be on the Jew side, on the Arab side, the Hamas side, the Hezbollah side.
	Let's go to Wikipedia!
	One of the world's most popular information websites has declared the Anti-Defamation League as an unreliable source.
	The editors at Wikipedia now say that the top Jewish civil rights group and one of the world's preeminent authorities on anti-Jewish hate is not a reliable source for information about the Israel-Palestine conflict and anti-Semitism.
	Their claim that because you guys are both, in their words, advocacy and a resource organization, so therefore the advocacy taints the research.
	What do you make of that?
	I mean, look, our processes are absolutely rigorous.
	Our methodologies are sound.
	They stand up to scrutiny.
	Everything is transparent and done very above the board.
	We have a team of PhDs who does this work.
	Anti-Semitism is up.
	Acts of harassment, vandalism, and violence are up.
	And if you don't have the leading organization in the world tracking anti-Semitism in our data on Wikipedia, anti-Semitism will continue to increase.
	I mean, we work with policy makers, we work with journalists, we work with elected officials.
	Law enforcement just shed a light on this.
	I just love that they're taking Wikipedia seriously.
	Yeah, that's pathetic, but there's also an ill logic in what he said.
	And the ill logic is that if we're not doing our jobs, then antisemitism will increase.
	Well, you're doing your jobs, and it's increasing anyway!
	So what good are you?
	I just love the editors at Wikipedia determined.
	Yeah, Wikipedia's always been woke and it's got all kinds of issues.
	Spookness!
	It's completely wrong about half a dozen things at least and it stays with it.
	There's a bunch of spooks running it.
	It's hilarious.
	I think it's great.
	Oh, by the way, Sir Jake sent me a note.
	We were talking about Taco Tuesday on the Eisenhower.
	Was it the Eisenhower?
	Oh yeah, the USS Eisenhower.
	USS Eisenhower.
	And I was like, oh, what's this with Taco Tuesday?
	Well, I got slapped.
	As a naval supply officer who has been in charge of galleys on ships, I can confirm that Taco Tuesday is a huge hit of sailor favorite and something we simply can't do without.
	If Taco Tuesdays went away, it would be a morale crusher.
	Good to know.
	I doubt it.
	Good to know.
	I take it from Sir Jake.
	He knows what's up.
	Well, before we take our final break, I do have a second half of show, a couple of clips.
	Well, let me just throw the theremin in then.
	Alright, now entering second half of show.
	You've taken over my gig.
	Let's find out.
	Well, nobody else is doing it.
	No, of course I'm not doing it.
	So this is a podcast called Forbidden News that has I've gotten a lot of attention on the Twitter and some other social networks, and it's just a couple of blowhards, this guy O'Looney or Looney, whatever his name is, British guys, and they're talking about how the UN troops are coming in to take over everything.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah, this is always good, yeah.
	The blue helmets are coming, yes.
	And they're gonna come in, they're coming in the United States too, but this is the British version, it's the same Kind of story that we get here.
	But this is a bunch of Brits talking back and forth about it.
	And to listen to this insanity is just beyond me.
	So this is UN soldiers and unforbidden news.
	You know, we talked about a lot of things to do with Covid and what your experiences were with all of that.
	But you've also been speaking about something else that seems to be growing exponentially every day.
	And that is the mass illegal immigration that's going on in England.
	In Wales, in Scotland and over in Ireland as well.
	I mean it is quite literally off the charts and a lot of people, a lot of people are saying look This isn't normal.
	There's something not right.
	This isn't just refugees coming in.
	These aren't people fleeing from some kind of war zone.
	These are predominantly men aged between 25 and 35.
	Young fighting age men as my old boss Nigel Farage once referred to them and I think he's right.
	John, what do you think's going on here mate?
	So I can tell you these are UN soldiers and they will be deployed by the WHO when they announce the next pandemic lockdown.
	That's what's going to happen.
	They've been trained by British soldiers.
	They've been trained by the Black Watch Regiment.
	They were trained in them in Antalya in Turkey and in the east of Ukraine.
	They're predominantly down to sergeant ranks.
	They're then shipped to France.
	They all sign the Official Secrets Act.
	Then they're ferried over.
	And the idea of them being ferried over is they're lost at sea.
	So they have to be under international law saved from being lost at sea and that's why they take the route they do.
	The boats are housed in a home office compound and then they're shipped back to France on two British haulage firm lorries and I can supply you the details of the reg numbers.
	What made you listen to this?
	mine written lorries.
	The pallets, the outboard motors are strapped on pallets.
	They go on one lorry.
	The boats go on to the other lorry, and they're sent back to France for reuse.
	I've got 11 gigabytes of footage.
	There's a guy down there, ex-military.
	He's been using drones and surveillance on them for a long time.
	What made you listen to this?
	I got into a back and forth with one of our producers.
	Oh, it's one of the, I love these emails.
	I was like, this is great.
	You got to listen to this.
	You got to watch this three-hour rumble video.
	Yes, always Rumble.
	And you did it.
	I did.
	Military-age men.
	There it is again.
	Military-age men.
	It's the same trope.
	It's a total trope.
	The people that have the guts to make these kinds of, you know, they leave one country and go to another, one way or another, it tends to be people in a certain age group because you're not going to find 90-year-old men or kids or anything in between.
	So it's military-age men.
	And so, but the rationale, this is what, I have these clips, it's the rationale and the delusion that these guys express, and I hear it from the, from our producers that get into this too, it's delusional to imagine that any of these, you know, this, I have clips, I have, there's a guy who's been taking movies, I got a million hours of it.
	He was on Jimmy Dore!
	He was on Jimmy Dore!
	It must be real!
	Yes, exactly.
	And so I consider the second half of the show nuttiness.
	So let's go to part two.
	Just to recap, you've got evidence that these boats that are coming in, they're only doing that to meet some kind of or pass through underneath some kind of radar in terms of legislation.
	Yeah, so if you're lost at sea, they're obliged to save you.
	And that's the idea of them coming over in small rubber boats as they're lost at sea.
	That's the maritime law.
	So you're saying that these are not normal illegal matters?
	No, if you think about it logically and kind of base it on a common sense approach, if you were fleeing war and tyranny, I don't know about you, but I would certainly take my wife and children with me.
	They're my prized asset.
	They're everything to me.
	If you're going to war, you go to war with the lads.
	And that's these young men are coming over.
	They're going to be deployed.
	They will be deployed.
	And people will see then, you know, and I don't doubt there'll still be some Muppets that will stand on their doorsteps, banging pots and pans, you know, thanking these young men for helping us, you know, because initially they'll be deployed in what's perceived or conveyed as a humanitarian role.
	I'm going to tell you something.
	I nearly fell off my chair when I interviewed this young man.
	His name is Niall McConnell.
	He's an Irish political candidate.
	And I had an interview with him a couple of days ago and he was telling me, and I'd been aware of this, but he was telling me that these illegal migrants are being recruited for police.
	They're illegal, right?
	But they're going to be given the position of police officers in Ireland to police Irish people.
	And to vote as well.
	And to vote!
	Oh my goodness.
	You know, if you send me one of these links, it's like a Corbett report, and I don't reply to you.
	A Corbett report!
	It's because we have been doing this for 17 years.
	I mean, I even got someone the other day, you clearly aren't familiar with the Q strategy.
	I mean, that's still not a Brown, is it?
	Oh, yeah.
	And it was because, you know, I was talking about Trump, like, you know, he hired all these horrible people.
	He's good at firing, but he's not good at hiring.
	No, no, no.
	You don't understand.
	That's the Q strategy.
	Keep your enemies even closer.
	Oh, OK.
	Oh, please.
	This is... JFK Jr.
	is going to be his vice presidential pick?
	If JFK Jr.
	is his vice presidential pick, and JFK Jr.
	comes back from the dead, I will eat my boot.
	Well, that's a bet you... Yeah, you can make these kinds of assertions because the chances are zero in hell.
	And Fauci's mom is Mother Teresa.
	I mean, it's crazy!
	I like that one.
	Just look at her face.
	It's the same blue and white colors from Epstein's Island.
	So here we go with part three and this is the end.
	And to vote.
	That's what nearly made me fall off my chair.
	Because he said they just have to prove that they've been living there in any capacity, could be a tent, for the last six months.
	Yes.
	And they will then be allowed to stand in the elections and become elected.
	Yes.
	Illegal migrants.
	You've got people like Shane Fine facilitating that, you know.
	What happened to Shane Fine?
	What happened to them?
	At one time Sinn Féin, and a lot of people in America, they still don't, they haven't woken up to this yet.
	Yeah, yeah.
	At one time Sinn Féin was seen as the political arm of the IRA.
	Yes.
	They were fighting for Irish republicism.
	They were fighting for Ireland, and now look at it, now they're destroying Ireland.
	It goes on.
	Yeah, I can imagine.
	Well, you're very brave, you're very brave to have sat through all that.
	Hey!
	Podcast.
	I, you know, I have my hopes still high on podcasts, but... Especially, do you know that, have you been following, just as a last little bit here, that it's, you know, quote-unquote Soros.
	I'm not even sure who that is anymore.
	But the Soros organization has been getting all kinds of waivers from the FCC to buy Odyssey.
	You know, Odyssey is probably, next to iHeart, one of the biggest radio conglomerates.
	And, uh, they got everybody on there.
	Like, you know, Hannity, and Mark Levin, and all these guys.
	And so, everyone's like, oh, Soros is, he's going to take over, he's going to get rid of, uh, of conservative voices.
	Have you not been following that?
	No, I have not even heard any of this until right now.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's here.
	FCC waivers boost Soros bid to further silence the right with Odyssey takeover.
	And so Odyssey has, so they already put 400, they were already shareholder.
	You know, the Odyssey filed for bankruptcy.
	So they put $400 million in the Soros organization.
	Weekly, the network reaches 165 million listeners.
	Conservative hosts including Sean Hannity, Dana Loesch, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck, and Eric Erickson.
	And so the thinking here is that he's going to Take them all off the air and put on some lefties.
	And I'm like, do you have any idea that radio is dead?
	The median age of the radio listener is 75.
	This is over.
	No.
	Podcasting is the future with these guys from Ireland.
	That's the future!
	The future's grim, however you look at it.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	All right, we're going to thank everyone who came in.
	It's a short list, everyone who came in, $50 and above.
	And again, we appreciate everybody who supports the show.
	If everybody supported us with just a couple dollars a month, it would be perfect.
	And there'd be no sad puppies.
	Yeah, but next we're clubbing a baby seal.
	John, take us through to the 50s.
	All right, let's do that.
	We're starting with Rose Richardson in Tucson, Arizona, 15797.
	I'm from Oracle, Utah, and I'm still jab-free.
	There you go.
	Anyway, it's a very complimentary little note from Rose.
	Anonymous in Columbus, Ohio, 132.
	Neil Deloury in Anderson, Indiana, 1111.
	Once a ten-year listener.
	Yeah, once a de-douching ten-year listener.
	About time!
	You've been de-douched.
	Thank you.
	We appreciate it.
	We appreciate it.
	Ian Field in 100.
	Brian Lillard in Prosper.
	Prosper, Texas, 8888.
	Nikolas Uman in Dilworth, Minnesota, 8195.
	He needs some health and travel karma.
	We'll give you that at the end as we get to Kevin McLaughlin, Archduke of Luna, 8008.
	Boob.
	Sir Tooth Fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana, 8008.
	He also needs Travel Karma.
	Interesting.
	Wayne Cox in Yeovil, UK, 6969.
	Zachary Schendel in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
	That's a switcheroo.
	He needs to be credited $63, credited to Monger out of Wyckoff.
	It's a gal who hit him in the mouth.
	Now he needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Roe in Cumming, Georgia.
	$61.90.
	Matthew Elwhart in Weatherford, Texas.
	$6.006, small boob.
	Air Lineman of the Net in Anna, Illinois.
	$55.10.
	Jacob Merfield in Fitchburg, Wisconsin.
	$52.72.
	Jacob Beggs in Petaluma.
	$52.72.
	Baron Henry in Ranchos Palos Verdes. $52.42.
	These are all 50, those are $50 donations that have been kindly added, and it's funny that it's not always the same.
	Sir Richie Rich, 50-50, 51-50, which just means you're nuts, and he's on the birthday list.
	Sir Bob and Cumming, another one Cumming Georgia, we had Roe, and now Sir Bob.
	They should get together.
	50-69.
	Forrest Martin, parts unknown, $50.05, and Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, $50.05.
	Now we have the pure $50 donors, and there's not that many, starting with Nicholas Rudowich in Harper's Ferry, Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin, James Farrell in Haverhill, Massachusetts.
	There they are, Gaucho Woodworking!
	Look him up on the internet.
	They make all kinds of stuff.
	They make cutting boards that are dynamite.
	Redondo Beach, California.
	They should send me one.
	Alexa DeHint.
	Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California.
	And last on the list is Michael Statum.
	And that's our group of supporters for Show 1671.
	Shortlist, though it may be.
	We want to thank each and every one of them.
	And also, again, thanks to our Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1671, Relationship Karma, Nothing Says That Like a Goat.
	You've got karma.
	NoAgendaDonations.com is where you can go to become a No Agenda Producer.
	Well, it's all pretty short and sweet today.
	Mary Ann Sheeberger says happy birthday to Jim, her hubby, Jim.
	He celebrated yesterday Sir Christopher, which is his wife, Kim, a very happy one she is celebrating today.
	And Sir Richie Rich will celebrate his birthday on June 25th.
	And we say happy birthday to everybody here from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	And we can go straight into the meetups because that's it.
	Nothing else.
	We have no knights, no dames, no title changes.
	We do have one meetup report from the Fort Worth post-summer solstice shindig meetup from Sir Rotoin.
	He says, not set up for recording yet, so it's just written.
	In the Sentinelized picture, seven producers showed up for an excellent afternoon of sanity restoration.
	Meetup moved into a smoke-filled back room where the conversation continued well into the evening.
	Ragging on the Libertarian Party and tips on raising chickens were among the topics discussed.
	Connections were made.
	Protection secured.
	Perfect.
	You can go to a meetup today if you're in the Netherlands.
	You're probably there already.
	Gitmo Lowlands Happywood near the KUT.
	It kicked off hours ago.
	Might still be going on in Tilburg.
	Sir Hendrik organizing that.
	The South Florida Margarita Meetup underway now at Lenora's Alton in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.
	The Indy NA Proud Tribal Meetup, three o'clock.
	It's underway as we speak at Blind Owl Brewery, Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Mark and Maria, I hope you guys are having a good time and listening to the show.
	The Kansas City Some Like It Hot Edition Meetup, 3.33, underway today at Variety KC Playground at Wyandotte County Park in Bonner Springs, Kansas.
	The International Candanavian Finland Summit Should be wrapping up now in Helsinki.
	Stones in Helsinki, Finland.
	Very curious if we'll get a meet-up report from there.
	And on Tuesday, the Backyard Social in Clovis, California, at the Backyard Social Club.
	And let's see, what else do we have on the list?
	June 28th, Houston, Texas.
	On the 29th, North Jersey, Rhode Island, Westland, Oregon, Dallas, Texas, Los Angeles, Dayton, Ohio.
	The 30th, Longview, Texas.
	July 5th, Fremantle, Western Australia.
	The 6th, Amsterdam, North Holland, in the Netherlands, McKinney, Texas, on the 12th, Garden City, Idaho, the 13th, the 14th, Rabbit Hash, Kentucky, and Keene, New Hampshire, on the 20th, Lansing, Michigan, Santa Rosa, California, San Diego, California, the 21st, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, on the 27th, Ironton, Minnesota, the 28th, Trinidad and Tobago, Please send a report from there.
	In the 28th, Amsterdam again.
	August.
	We're going with August.
	Keyport, New Jersey on the 11th.
	And Albany, California.
	John, your backyard on the 17th.
	These are the No Agenda Meetups.
	You can find them at noagendameetups.com.
	They are producer organized.
	It is a great place to make friends.
	Everybody has something in common.
	There's never been a fight at any meetup ever.
	People love getting together because connection is protection.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	Go there.
	Find one or start one.
	It's like a party.
	Like a party!
	Alright.
	It's like a party.
	Like a party!
	All right.
	You got any ISOs?
	I do.
	Okay.
	What you got?
	I got cannot.
	I cannot do it again.
	Okay.
	And then I got Trump saying not too good.
	That's not too good!
	Um, I have, uh, let me see.
	I think I'm over-ISO'd, actually.
	Um, here's Arnold.
	It was boring.
	Yeah?
	No.
	Or?
	I hated every minute of it.
	Come on.
	No, that's a good one.
	That's pretty good.
	Um, I also have, uh, how did this get in here?
	Oh, you gotta give him that hook, too, and spit on that thing.
	I don't know how that got in there.
	That shouldn't be there.
	Um, that, by the way, is a woman who's bringing America back together.
	There's this one.
	It's time to go!
	And this one.
	Yes, that's right, that's true.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't like to use negative ones, but from Schwarzenegger, I like the, I hated every minute of it.
	I hated every minute of it.
	That's kind of good.
	It's clear, it's crisp.
	I think we should use it.
	And you know, we have our mixed feelings about that guy.
	For your consideration, the tip of the day.
	That's right everybody, it's time once again for the tip of the day.
	John C. Dvorak, what do you have in store for us?
	So, uh, you know, one of the things about the show, which I'm uncomfortable with, is they're ragging on vaccines, on the Vax, on the COVID shot, the mRNA shot.
	You're uncomfortable with that?
	I'm uncomfortable knowing that at least half of our audience has taken this shot.
	Okay, fair enough.
	So I have, uh, so Peter McCullough has a protocol for ridding yourself of the after effects of the shot.
	Yes.
	That we've kind of discussed, but we've never fully discussed, so I decided just to link to it.
	And my tip is for people who had the shot to go look at the protocol and see what it is and read about it.
	And it's easy to get to.
	It's on the web.
	You can type this into check to make sure it works.
	Tinyurl.com.
	We all know that.
	Tinyurl.com slash no dash agenda.
	No hyphen agenda.
	Oh, excellent.
	You did some work there.
	You produced something.
	That's good.
	Yes, I did.
	Nice.
	Yes, I did. - Nice. - And so go there and read that, and then if you, you know, this is where I think, I think the protocol sounds possible, it sounds like a winner.
	McCullough's the one who developed it and I think it might be something people should be aware of.
	I like this idea and so it's tinyurl, no tiny, what is it again?
	tinyurl.com.
	Slash no agenda.
	No dash agenda.
	No dash agenda, okay.
	Yeah, regular no agenda doesn't work.
	I like that because I know people here in town who were forced to take the vax and they have done this protocol.
	There's several functional medicine doctors here in town who are administering this protocol and from what I hear, with great success.
	Whatever that means, people are doing it and I think that's a great idea.
	And it's all public domain products.
	It's not like you have to go get a prescription.
	And I've also heard people are just taking ivermectin just on like a regular basis.
	Yeah, I've heard that too.
	Just for the heck of it.
	Bacola and this protocol I think is probably better.
	Yeah.
	Unless you have worms.
	Then the ivermectin will do the trick.
	Beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	At the end of another broadcast day.
	Not on Odyssey.
	Nope.
	We can't be taken over by Soros.
	But we will club a baby seal if you don't support us.
	Film at 11.
	We have end-of-show mixes from Judd Hawley, Professor Jay Jones, and David Koepka coming up for you.
	And if you want to, stay tuned to trollroom.io, noagenda.stream.
	Coming up next, we have the Millennial Media Offensive.
	This is episode 125.
	You definitely want to check these kids out, because they are Millennials, and they do a media offensive.
	And they're value for value, so why not?
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in Fredericksburg, Texas.
	In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's kind of chilly, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Thursday, debate night.
	Of course it's a show day, they know what they're doing over there.
	In political land in D.C., Jake Tapper's gonna save the day.
	We'll get you ready for it.
	Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
	Until Thursday, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
	Of course, they passed out the memo to their, as you pointed out, their stooges.
	I think there is so much misinformation, disinformation, as we've been talking about.
	The President wandering.
	Cheap fakes, videos of real events.
	These videos are effective because they are.
	They're far too big for a reason.
	The President wandering.
	Camille Jean-Pierre and others are calling these cheap fakes.
	Cheap fakes?
	We're hearing about so-called cheap fakes.
	The President wandering.
	We've been calling it cheap fakes.
	Literally describing what CBS News has been doing for years.
	Where was the edit?
	The President wandering.
	This is so misleading.
	It's shameful.
	So far, two big videos.
	However, we have seen, particularly in the last few months, the videos targeting Biden are getting a lot more traction online.
	He just turns away and starts wandering off.
	He's still warming.
	But what about bikes?
	Do you believe he is fit to lead us?
	No, that's a really big question.
	Oh, absolutely.
	People have been watching.
	They express concerns about your mental impunity.
	They say that you are too old.
	Come on, man.
	We want to go with the evidence and the truth.
	The very public and obvious cognitive decline of the U.S.
	President.
	The President is seen walking away.
	And there is not one thing funny about it.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I know it because I know what mental illness looks like!
	No, I'm serious.
	There is no shame in being unwell.
	Come on, man.
	Jill, Dr. Jill Biden, where are you?
	What mental illness looks like?
	I watched a man completely void of all awareness.
	That is your judgement.
	Aimlessly wandering away.
	Oh, absolutely.
	What mental illness looks like?
	We've entered a new era.
	No, I'm serious.
	There is no way in hell Joe Biden is running America.
	That is your judgment.
	We want to go with the evidence and the truth.
	The blame for this tragedy lies squarely on the people around him.
	But what about Biden?
	Do you believe he is fit to lead us?
	No, I'm serious.
	What mental illness looks like?
	Seamlessly wandering away.
	The very public and obvious cognitive decline of the U.S.
	President.
	That is your judgment.
	There is no shame in being unwell.
	The President is seen walking away.
	No, I'm serious.
	I know it because I know what mental illness looks like!
	Come on, man.
	Jill, Dr. Jill Biden, where are you?
	You know, that's a really great question.
	No, I'm serious.
	And there is not one thing funny about it.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Come on, man.
	I know it because I know what mental illness looks like.
	Bye.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Let's not be fooled.
	Joe isn't one of the most effective presidents of our lives, in spite of his age.
	But because of it... Yep.
	Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
	Oh, baby, I love this.
	I love this whole topic.
	You all have called this the cheap fakes video.
	That's exactly what they are.
	They are cheap fakes video.
	I love this bar job.
	This is the memo they sent out earlier, obviously.
	I'm getting done in bad shape.
	The fact checkers have repeatedly caught up pushing this information, disinformation.
	I have some of these things.
	This is something coming from Europe.
	I have so many students, and this is somebody coming from your part of the world, calling them a cheap fix and misinformation.
	Deepfake misinformation.
	what was being said and what was being seen.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, yeah.
	Gaslighting.
	Oh, yeah.
	Keep fake.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's exactly what they are.
	The rest of the podcast is on your nerves.
	The best podcast in the universe!

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