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	Everybody should move to Saskatoon!
	Adam Curry, John C. DeVora.
	This is no agenda.
	May 16, 2024.
	This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media Assassination Episode 1660.
	This is No Agenda.
	We are Climate Start and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	Here from the other Silicon Valley where we want to remind people that You weren't?
	You were.
	When you were 40, I remember you when you were 40.
	all night and party every day.
	It's bull crap.
	I'm John C. Black.
	It's crackpot and buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I'll have you know, I was rocking and rolling all night and partying every single day when I was 40.
	You weren't?
	You were.
	When you were 40, I remember you when you were 40.
	Don't I?
	No.
	You're not.
	You were pulling apart computers on the TV.
	Yeah, well, that's not rock and rolling all night, whatever that means, and partying every day, which presumes by the wording that you never get any sleep.
	It's bullcrap.
	I listened to you and Daryl singing along with that song.
	I couldn't know how much longer I'm thinking.
	His name is now Daryl?
	Oh, Daryl.
	Yeah, Daryl.
	You and Daryl and his other brother, Daryl.
	You crack me up, John C. Dvorak.
	Oh, man.
	Well, I feel good.
	Are you okay?
	I dropped a clip sheet.
	Oh, no.
	And it's a literal sheet, isn't it?
	It's a clipboard.
	Tell me it's a clipboard.
	No clipboard, sorry.
	Just a piece of paper.
	Well, speaking of pulling computers apart, I had such a great week.
	I loved Monday and Tuesday.
	It was so funny.
	As these numbnut Nimrods in Silicon Valley try to convince us that AI is great.
	It's great, everybody.
	It's just great.
	I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going short AI and long on people.
	Would you like a 45-second overview of the Google I.O.
	event with Sundar Pichai and all of his executives?
	Yes, actually I was gonna get this clip.
	I'm glad you got it.
	I sound really useful.
	AI. AI. AI. AI. AI. AI. AI. AI. Generative AI. AI. AI. AI. AI.
	A.I.
	AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI. It's AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI. It's AI. AI. Vertex AI. And that's the power of generative AI.
	Was there anything that you heard of that you thought might be useful in your life?
	That Google presented?
	generative AI, generative AI. - AI, AI, AI. - Was there anything that you heard of that you thought might be useful in your life that Google presented?
	Anything? - No, but I saw a report that was kind of frightening.
	Oh?
	Did you get a clip of said report?
	No, no, I didn't have a clip.
	I had to explain it.
	Actually, I'll get a clip and put it on the next show.
	Okay.
	Well, then I have one more clip here, because not to be out... Who put that together?
	You didn't.
	No, I didn't.
	No, no, that's been circulating.
	It's a good clip.
	It's a great clip.
	When people do that, then you know that no one's buying it.
	You know, instead of, oh, oh, oh, oh, so good, oh!
	But now, but now, not to be outdone, open AI, AI, AI, open AI, Sam Altman's, um, what's that cult he was in again?
	What's that sex cult those guys are in?
	Yeah, it was, yeah.
	I forget the name of that sex cult.
	It was a sex cult.
	I think it still is a sex cult.
	I think it's still in business.
	Yeah, I think so.
	What, who breaks up a sex cult?
	Nobody.
	Effective, no, especially not if you're said leader of said sex cult.
	No, you got it made.
	Effective altruism.
	We're going to save the world with math.
	So they came out with a demo, which was, as I've distilled this, a classic, classic Silicon Valley demo.
	Classic.
	So there's a guy sitting in a room.
	Well, let me explain what that means to the public.
	Oh, please do.
	All BS.
	All BS.
	Scam.
	All the time.
	It's unbelievable.
	But now, because of this demo, and I looked up the definition of the word reason, to reason, so when AI can reason, it would be like The AI would see me sitting here in my room and would presume I'm, oh, I see a microphone.
	I see a mixer.
	I see you got headphones on.
	Are you about to do a podcast?
	See, that's reasoning.
	So their open AI is now effectively a creepy, Somewhat over-sexualized spokesmodel.
	Um, who got on my nerves very quickly.
	It's kind of like Siri with a personality.
	And so here's a guy sitting in a room.
	Then, uh, and he's holding up the camera and the open AI is having a conversation with him.
	Hey, how's it going?
	Hey there.
	It's going great.
	How about you?
	I see you're rocking an open AI hoodie.
	Nice choice.
	What's up with that ceiling though?
	Are you in a cool industry style office or something?
	Well, can you take a guess at what I might be doing based on what I'm showing you here?
	I can't tell which gay guy is the AI and which gay guy is the person.
	They sound very similar.
	They both are...
	Affectations, let's put it that way.
	Yes, but I love the, I see you're rocking a cool open AI hoodie.
	Now, if I held that camera... So that's the AI talking there.
	Yeah, because the AI is reasoning, you see.
	It's reasoning.
	It's not rigged, this demo, at all.
	No, of course not.
	It's reasoning, and we continue.
	Hmm.
	From what I can see, it looks like you're in some kind of recording or production setup.
	With those lights, tripods, and possibly a mic, it seems like you might be gearing up to shoot a video, or maybe even a livestream.
	Yeah.
	No, no.
	Why wouldn't the A.I.
	say podcast?
	Or, um, television show.
	But no, it's some kind of demonstration or live stream, perhaps?
	Or maybe even a live stream.
	Yeah, good point.
	In fact, we've got a new announcement to make.
	Or how about, are you gonna send me a dick pic?
	No, no, no, no, the reasoning is smart.
	Okay, let's see what he's in fact about to do.
	That's exciting.
	Announcements are always a big deal.
	Judging by the setup, it looks like it's going to be quite the professional production.
	Is this announcement related to OpenAI, perhaps?
	It is.
	Oh, wow!
	This thing is so smart.
	He's like, wait a minute.
	You rockin' the OpenAI hoodie?
	You've got video and lights?
	Could this be something about OpenAI?
	Is this announcement related to OpenAI, perhaps?
	It is!
	And in fact, what if I were to say that you're related to the announcement?
	Or that you are the announcement?
	Me?
	The announcement is about me?
	Okay, this is where it went creepy for me.
	Who has a phony laugh?
	That's weird.
	It's kind of, it's lightly sexualized, which is kind of creepy.
	Me?
	You're talking about little old me?
	My hot pants?
	Me?
	The announcement is about me?
	Well, color me intrigued.
	This is not a real, this is like somebody on a microphone someplace.
	Hold on, that gets better.
	Well, color me intrigued.
	Are you about to reveal something about AI?
	By the way, hold on.
	How does the AI voice breathe like that?
	You know, in and out.
	I mean, this is ridiculous.
	This is how good it's gotten, John.
	It's reasoning, it's... Comic Strip Blogger thinks... It's breathing somehow.
	Comic Strip Blogger thinks everyone will be dead in five years.
	All that's going to be running is this.
	Feel something about AI?
	Or more specifically about me as a part of OpenAI?
	You've got me on the edge of my... well, I don't really have a seat, but you get the idea.
	Oh, and it's funny, it's doing material.
	It's doing schtick!
	What's the big news?
	Yeah, we've got a new model that can interact with the world through audio, vision, and text.
	Oh man, and they have demos.
	They literally have a blind dude in Times Square holding up his phone Tell me what I'm not seeing!
	I mean, come on.
	It's embarrassing at this point.
	It's embarrassing.
	And Sam Altman, I tried to clip.
	He did an hour-long interview with one of his venture capital partners on their podcast.
	This is the thing these days.
	You have a VC company and then you have... Well, this is not just these days.
	This has been going on for years.
	But yeah, if you're a podcaster in residence, I'm going to interview Sam about his podcast in residence.
	I love that.
	Oh yeah, podcaster in residence for sure.
	Okay, what do you do?
	I'm a podcaster in residence.
	What do you do?
	I sit here.
	It's an exit strategy.
	Yeah.
	Hello, Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak here.
	We are podcasters in residence for Kleiner Perkins.
	Let's talk about some green tech, everybody.
	So here's my question.
	Because you ask a GPT-400 how it will actually make money.
	I would like to ask it that question.
	And when will it make my email better?
	You want to impress me?
	Let me run this thing on my email.
	So it knows what I want to see.
	It pops things to the top.
	It learns.
	It has machine learning.
	It can reason how to lie when I don't really want to respond to somebody.
	Do that and I'll be impressed.
	That's a good product you just described.
	Of course!
	That is the product.
	That's the killer app.
	But no.
	No.
	Of course not.
	I can't do anything.
	Let's face it.
	But no.
	You're rocking a cool open AI hoodie there.
	But you know, I got emails from people I still kind of respect.
	Like the former New York banker.
	The former New York banker, he says, look at this man, it's really getting somewhere now.
	And he sends me a link to this demo.
	I'm like, are you kidding me?
	It's getting somewhere.
	It's really getting somewhere.
	Well, he got suckered by the demo.
	That demo is obviously a fake.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we've done these demos, John.
	Now mind you, we could be in Kuala Lumpur!
	I mean, I've... With Mark Cantor.
	I've done the demos.
	I've done the demos.
	It's how it works in Silicon Valley.
	But okay, let's go raise a trillion dollars.
	We need more money.
	When this thing comes spinning apart, it's gonna be hilarious to watch.
	And it will.
	It always does, always does.
	Although you think this is a real cycle, like the cycle will last.
	I think, well, I have watched this over and over, and it's always, it happens, at some point it sticks.
	Yeah, but it's, what's sticking is... Well, what's not, it's not, I mean, I'm first thinking this could stick, I think some aspects of it will, but With stuff like what you just played, it's disconcerting.
	I can't say the word right.
	Disconcerting.
	It's disheartening.
	Yeah, but disheartening is that people are, oh, this is great, here we go, it's reasoning, it's smart, it's smarting out.
	Well, that's the way those demos work.
	We've seen this over the years.
	They're very effective at buffaloing the public.
	And if you ask anyone, I mean, it's actually pretty good at helping people code, okay.
	But it's not going to replace coders, because writing code is like poetry, prose.
	You know, it's not, yeah, okay, a little simple program, sure.
	You can replace some widgets in the organization, but not people who actually code software as the creative endeavor that it really is.
	You know, putting design in the back of their mind as they're doing it?
	No!
	It's like, it's like disco.
	It's like disco of code.
	It's like it's programmatic.
	Okay, well, yeah, some of that is good.
	I mean, anybody who has spent any time trying to get any AI to sort through any data, oh, I can upload a Google spreadsheet to it.
	Google, what is it called?
	What is the Google?
	Google Doc.
	Google Calc.
	Calc?
	Is that what it is?
	VisiCalc.
	VisiCalc!
	I can upload my VisiCalc.
	I can upload my VisiCalc to it.
	And, you know, but by the time you're done and by the time you're done correcting it, I mean, it always has 20% error rate.
	I mean, you probably could have gotten more done if you just did it yourself.
	You know, it just, it doesn't.
	Sheets.
	There you go.
	Thank you.
	Google Sheets.
	Sheets.
	Sheets.
	It's the sheets, man.
	It's totally sheets.
	Then the former New York banker did send me this pre-print.
	Durably Reducing Conspiracy Beliefs Through Dialogues With AI.
	Oh yes.
	They've done a study.
	So that'll do it.
	They've done a study across two experiments.
	We find robust evidence.
	That's better than no evidence.
	Robust evidence that the debunking conversation with the AI reduced belief in conspiracy theories by roughly 20%.
	Ooh, 20%.
	What conspiracy theories are we talking about?
	Oh, moon landing and stuff.
	Now, the effect did not decay over two months' time.
	So it stuck, was consistently observed across a wide range of different conspiracy theories, and occurred even for participants whose conspiracy beliefs were deeply entrenched and of great importance to their identities.
	I'd be you.
	Yeah, totally.
	20% is a small number, it seems to me.
	It's roughly, so it's probably 18 or 17.
	It's probably 15.
	Furthermore, although the dialogues were focused on a single conspiracy theory, the intervention spilled over to reduce beliefs in unrelated conspiracies, indicating a general increase in conspiratorial worldview, as well as increasing intentions to challenge others who espouse their chosen conspiracy.
	These findings highlight that even many people who strongly believe in seemingly fact-resistant conspiritual beliefs can change their minds in the face of sufficient evidence.
	There's hope for me.
	There's hope for me yet.
	With AI.
	I hope that that groovy chick in the open AI system will talk me off the ledge next time.
	It's amazing.
	It's amazing.
	That's where we're at.
	I mean, who needs anything?
	We don't need anything.
	You ran into a brick wall with that.
	Yeah, I know.
	So... It's okay.
	Sorry, I should have stopped earlier.
	You're right.
	Now, the big... I think there's a couple of big stories out there.
	I see you have a multi-parter, so I'm going to lead you into it.
	I'm gonna let you loose and then I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna close the deal on this one, okay?
	Oh yeah?
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	Because it's not going away.
	It's bird flu.
	Let's talk medical news if we can with America's favorite doctor.
	The U.S.
	federal government.
	America's favorite doctor!
	Is announcing new funding to help mitigate the risks of the bird flu outbreak among livestock.
	Yeah, and when we've covered this before, we've been talking about it for a while now.
	When you have a spreading pathogen, like avian influenza, you want to try to mitigate and contain that spread.
	And this is what the federal government is really targeting the industry and agriculture.
	Let me take you through it.
	It's a spreading pathogen.
	They are pledging financial support for PPE for employees of affected... Okay, now listen carefully.
	All the words we've learned, PPE, pathogen, so they're going to give PPE to people who might be exposed to the non-existent threat of bird flu in cows.
	Let me take you through it.
	They are pledging financial support for PPE for employees of affected herds because we know that now there are at least nine states involved with these infected herds.
	Funding for heat treatment disposal of impacted milk because that's the only biosecure way of disposing of milk that has been exposed or infected.
	Compensation of Producers for the loss of milk production is obviously important and they need to work with the states to limit the movement of lactating cattle because again, from the agriculture and industry standpoint, you really need to protect the people who are closest to these infected animals at this point.
	I just love... Why'd you say that?
	It's a cow.
	Say cow.
	Why lactating animal?
	Lactating cattle.
	It just sounds good.
	Cattle.
	Alright, we got one more show.
	That plays into the birthing person and all these other things.
	Lactating cattle.
	Now they're moving it over to the animal world.
	It's not a cow.
	Lactating cattle is a cow.
	Hello.
	It's not a dairy cow lactating cattle.
	Animals that lactate with four legs.
	It's off the hook and it's very important what's being said here.
	Where'd that come from by the way?
	That's ABC with Dr. Jen Ashton, America's favorite doctor.
	Oh, she should be, she should be fired.
	Well, hold on.
	I got another clip and I'm gonna let you loose on your, on your raw milk clips.
	Of course, I haven't heard them.
	We never listen to each other's clips.
	But I saw them, so I know we're gonna, you're gonna fill the donut hole here.
	So it's very important to note that they, as I predicted, they're talking about culling herds.
	Oh no, there'll be compensation.
	This is what they've been doing with ranchers and farmers for decades in the United States.
	It's how you get everyone in control.
	It's like, hey, don't worry if your crops fail, if your herd has to get culled because of, I'm sorry, your lactating cattle needs to be culled because it has some mythical bird flu virus in it.
	That we've detected somewhere with PCR spun up to 80 cycles.
	Don't worry, we'll take care of your farmers.
	And it's called bird flu, but cattle, so it's affecting multiple animals.
	This is the question I know some people are going to have.
	How do I keep from this affecting me?
	Well, listen, I've had conversations with senior officials.
	Oh, how is this going to affect me?
	Is it going to affect me?
	Can I get the bird flu?
	This is the question I know some people are going to have.
	How do I keep from this affecting me?
	Well, listen, I've had conversations Hold on, stop, stop, stop the clip.
	at the CDC, right now they are considering the risk to the overall U.S. population to be low, but who is at higher risk?
	The people who work in these industries.
	So right now, you should try to remove yourself from any animal that definitely appears to be ill, if you're talking about birds or cattle.
	And then again, I think we need to realize that- Hold on, stop, stop, stop the clip.
	Stop and clip.
	Do they have any evidence or even one dead cow that died from bird flu that they can document?
	There is no lactating animal that has died.
	Cows are fine!
	The cow's like, have you seen the cows?
	With their tongue just like a normal cow.
	Definitely appears to be ill, if you're talking about birds or cattle.
	Appears to be ill, she said.
	Appears to be ill.
	And then again, I think we need to... She is not a veterinarian!
	She's practicing veterinary medicine without a license here, as far as I'm concerned.
	It definitely appears to be ill, if you're talking about birds or cattle.
	And then, again, I think we need to realize that it starts with containing amongst our agriculture, and that's what we're seeing the federal government do right now.
	All right, so federal government stepping in, John.
	Now, of course, the main culprit, where it all starts, where we're all worried, we're worried, we're worried, we're worried, raw milk.
	Or as you would say, milk.
	Milk is the Midwestern way, Chicago way to pronounce it.
	Raw milk!
	But milk, I can say milk.
	Yeah, you can.
	Now, we've been clipping this for a while.
	They're just going after raw milk like there's no tomorrow.
	And so to pound it home, You know, they were doing it kind of in an oblique way in the previous couple of shows clips, but NPR compounded home.
	They're pretty much going to just talk nothing but raw milk in these few clips.
	I got six of them.
	They're short, and they need to be interrupted a lot, so that's why I chopped it up.
	But here we go.
	Raw milk BS.
	And a reminder and a disclaimer.
	Elitist Voices of America.
	This is NPR.
	The bird flu outbreak continues to spread among cows.
	The virus has now been found in almost 50 dairy herds across nine states.
	Health officials say milk that is pasteurized to kill germs is safe to drink, but the Food and Drug Administration has renewed warnings against raw milk.
	We continue to strongly advise against the consumption of raw milk and recommend that industry does not manufacture or sell raw milk or raw milk products Now, unpasteurized or raw milk is still being sold in many states, and advocates for raw milk say the federal government has always opposed its consumption, so why should they listen now?
	Well, here to talk more about this whole situation are NPR's Ping Wang and Kiara Eisner.
	Hey to both of you.
	Hey, Elsa.
	Hey I'm sorry, I'll shut up.
	I see you already did it.
	Yes, you stepped all over the joke.
	I know, but this is what you do with my clips!
	So I'll, I'll, I'll... I will present the correct example and I shall no longer step on your clips.
	I apologize.
	...our NPR's Ping Wong and Kiara Eisner.
	Hey to both of you.
	Hey, Elsa.
	Hey.
	Hey, Elsa.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	Hey, so Kiara, I want to start with you because you went to Texas last week and you were here on this mission to find... What is it with this hey?
	But this is, NPR's been doing this.
	And here's Elsa So-and-so, hey, hey, hey.
	What do you say, what is this?
	What kind of broadcasting is this?
	Well, it goes along with the pronoun thing.
	It's like, you know, you can't say, hi, lady.
	Or hello?
	No, no, hello, you can't do that.
	Or welcome to the show?
	No, oh no, oh no.
	No, this is just, hey, hey.
	You know what, they're a family at NPR.
	I think that's, they probably, a memo went out, We sound too serious, guys.
	When we do our handovers, let's make it sound like we're a family.
	Hey!
	Don't you think that's a memo?
	I think there was a memo, but you deal with family.
	When do you say hey to your family?
	Hey!
	Hey It's kind of a generic non-threatening, because you can't say, hey guys, oops!
	You can't say, hey people, oops!
	You know, so it is the, it is a safe way to address a crowd.
	Hey friends!
	It is close next to... Not Ladies and Germs, which is my favorite.
	No, no, no.
	It's a follow-on to Hey Comrade, I think.
	I think it's a... Hey Comrade.
	It is.
	Yes, you nailed it.
	Yeah, it's Hey Comrade.
	Yeah, okay.
	Let's just listen to that again.
	Hey Comrades, that's what it is.
	It's code for Comrade.
	Well, here to talk more about this whole situation are NPR's Ping Wong and Kiera Eisner.
	Hey to both of you.
	Hey, Elsa.
	Hey.
	Hey, Elsa.
	Hey.
	So, Kyra, I want to start with you because you went to Texas last week and you were, I hear, on this mission to find raw milk and test it for this virus.
	What did you find?
	I found it was quite easy to purchase in Texas.
	It's legal there, and all I had to do was drive up to these farms and purchase the milk directly from them.
	In some cases, there was a store attendant who I paid the money to.
	In other cases, there wasn't even anybody there.
	I just opened the door to the fridge, grabbed the milk, left cash in a drop box, and came out.
	Wow, Texas is out of control, man.
	You just walk up and grab the milk, and you're good to go!
	Whoa!
	They don't quite make... I think they're somewhat baffled.
	We have this in Washington State.
	It's called self-service honor system, friend, comrade.
	Honor farms.
	They're called honor farms.
	Honor farms.
	That's a good thing.
	And they're all over the place, and you just go up there.
	Now, if there was a California, they would not only not pay, they would steal the box of money and the refrigerator.
	They'd both be gone.
	As long as it's under $950 in value.
	It's okay, comrade.
	So I found it was, she seemed a bit non, she was, I think she was baffled by the fact that you could just go buy something without having to see somebody, and you had to do it by honor.
	Hold on, isn't that how California shopping works?
	You just go in and take it?
	Yeah, well nowadays...
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Next clip!
	In one of those farms in San Antonio, I met another woman who was buying milk.
	Her name was Cheryl Mossrum, and she said she's been drinking raw milk on and off for the past 15 to 20 years.
	Because I think the raw milk is typically a much better quality.
	Right now, we're just kind of watching the situation.
	And that was in Texas, which was ground zero for this outbreak.
	Ground zero!
	We're ground zero!
	Yes, you Texas are ground zero.
	You know, it was the Meat Mafia boys who gave me my most recent jug of raw milk.
	Oh, you got some?
	Oh, it is.
	It's almost like eggnog.
	It's so good.
	It's pretty tasty.
	It's eggnog.
	It's basically, if you like eggnog, you will like raw milk.
	Scientists can tell that's where bird flu jumped to cows last December and kicked off this whole outbreak.
	Wait, so can people get bird flu from drinking raw milk?
	Well, from drinking?
	Wait, but wait!
	Drinking raw milk?
	Writing from the script!
	PING!
	Like, what do we know?
	Bad emphasis!
	Yes, in bold letters with italics.
	Inking raw milk?
	PING!
	Like, what do we know about the risks?
	Well, it's all theoretical, and the answer is maybe, but honestly, health officials just don't know.
	So, Don Prater from the FDA, we heard from him in the intro.
	He's very clear that the agency doesn't recommend drinking raw milk, but he also says that there are a lot of open questions.
	I just want to remind everybody, because I know that we were doing the show when this happened.
	I think we were.
	Were we doing the show when I had the castle?
	No, I don't think so.
	No, it was a post-castle.
	So, pre-show, I had the castle in Belgium, good times, and we had tons of... You owned a castle?
	I owned a castle, yes.
	I thought you rented it.
	As I said, good times.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Well, that's got overhead issues.
	Yeah, because you've got to get a guy to do the outside, you've got to get someone on the inside, and then a third person to make sure those people aren't ripping you off.
	Now, it's bad.
	And it's all in Belgium where everything is complicated.
	But anyway, we had black swans, a family of black swans, and the mother and father always stayed there, which was nice.
	The swans would come up and they would actually walk into the living room sometimes.
	What?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh yeah, swans are brazen.
	He left the door open?
	Yes!
	And the swan come in, he's like, you got something to eat?
	Yeah.
	Oh, swans.
	Dude, when I, when I, this was... Dude?
	Dude, I had a helipad.
	This is good times.
	Yeah, I know you had a helipad.
	Right.
	You needed one.
	So I would come in... So how much money were you burning?
	Oh, I burned it all.
	I burned it all on castles and helicopters.
	I literally burned my money in the air.
	So I'd come flying in, coming into a slow hover, 300 feet.
	There goes the black swan.
	Chop, chop, chop.
	No, they would both come flying toward me and split off like a top gun.
	They would split off to the right and the left.
	And they would always do that.
	They would come and say hello to me.
	Anyway, so we had tons of ducks.
	And then there was bird flu, and the bird flu was bad, and they were culling chickens all over the place.
	In fact, it came into like a three kilometer radius, and it was right around the castle, because we were pretty sure they were going to come and cull our ducks and our swans, and I was kind of ready for some kind of confrontation.
	And, um, but that didn't happen.
	It stayed contained.
	And one of the guys, you know, one of my neighbors who had chickens, he got bird flu.
	And he would come over to the house.
	He's like, uh, how you doing?
	I got the bird flu.
	And it was like a, like a, like a bad flu.
	And he lived.
	He just, we just stayed home for a day or two.
	And then, you know, took some, took some Advil and he got over it and he lived.
	He did not die.
	And it was the authorities that killed all those chickens.
	You know?
	They were still tasty.
	So anyway, long story short, this is not a dangerous disease for humans, no more dangerous than the flu.
	Remember swine flu?
	I had swine flu.
	Remember I got swine flu?
	I lived!
	You got swine flu.
	I lived.
	I lived.
	Okay, back to NPR.
	You're pressing your luck with this conversation.
	There's not a tremendous amount of studies showing the impactivity related to this virus and raw milk products.
	The one person who's for sure gotten...
	Did you hear what he just said?
	Why are they banning it and making a big fuss?
	They've got nothing.
	Zero.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Evidence.
	So here is my story reiterated by the experts.
	There's not a tremendous amount of studies showing the impactivity related to this virus and raw milk products.
	The one person who's for sure gotten bird flu so far was a dairy worker in Texas, and he was dealing with sick cows.
	He probably got exposed to sprays of infected milk and manure.
	Oh no!
	Oh no!
	Bertha pooped on me!
	As far as health authorities can tell, no one has gotten bird food from drinking raw milk yet.
	Yet!
	Yet!
	But we're hopeful!
	Food from drinking raw milk yet.
	So what they're leaning on in their recommendation is the fact that people have gotten sick from other things in raw milk, like salmonella and E. coli, and that's why they don't think people should drink it.
	No one has gotten sick from the raw milk.
	They're just saying that.
	So here we go.
	Now the thing that would bother me about where I cut it off there is because the thing about raw milk that is problematic, and it comes up if these dairies aren't doing their job, and it's listeriosis.
	And they don't even mention that.
	And so, listeriosis, which also shows up every place else, too.
	There's a CDC page.
	I sent you a copy to put in the show notes.
	It's in the show notes.
	But people should look on this page.
	They should go check it out and read the outbreaks of listeriosis that are on the sidebar on the left.
	And I'm just going to read a few of them.
	Here's the reporting timeline.
	Listeria outbreak linked to queso fresco and cotija cheese.
	Listeria outbreak linked to peaches, nectarines and plums.
	Listeria outbreak linked to ice cream.
	Listeria outbreak linked to leafy greens.
	Listeria outbreak linked to enoki mushrooms.
	Listeria outbreak linked to deli meat and cheese.
	And on and on and on.
	Nick, link to brie and camembert.
	Who knows?
	Yeah, brie and camembert.
	And packaged salads produced by Dole.
	Where is the raw milk on this list?
	Where is it?
	It's not there.
	Here's one.
	The outbreak of listeria infection is linked to hard-boiled eggs.
	I mean, where is the raw milk?
	Yeah, it's not there.
	It's not there.
	It's not on the whole list.
	And that is the CDC page they're referring to.
	That's what they're referring to here.
	Yeah.
	As a side note... So what is the hang-up?
	Mimi, I said it on the last show, Mimi claims it's because the kinds of inspections the raw milk dairies require and what they have to do is too much work for the USDA, the CDC, and everybody else.
	They don't want to do it.
	They just don't want to do it so they just assume you boil everything and send it out to the public and screw the public if even they want to drink raw milk because it's probably healthier or it's claimed to be because it's got more enzymes and everything natural.
	Back when, so I got a boots on the ground from producer Crystal and she said, you know, we were very poor for a while and I was able to get some food And some WIC food program money, that's the Women Infinite Children, so it's a poverty program, like food stamps, here in Texas.
	And the government supplemental food program for low-income families.
	Now, so they weren't poor enough for food stamps, but they were poor enough to get the WIC.
	The only high protein they were allowed to get was, uh, the only meat, here it is, the only meat you were allowed to get was canned fish.
	Yeah.
	Tuna.
	Yeah.
	Everything was high in sugar.
	We also had so much juice and frozen juice we didn't use it because I couldn't imagine giving my child juice at every meal.
	So their firstborn was basically a vegetarian but then became zinc deficient, underweight.
	Of course WIC gave some PDA sure.
	And then my son started having 40-minute tantrums.
	He was absent, you know, like absent-minded.
	His blood sugar was spiking from the PediaSure.
	So finally, they got to a better place financially.
	We're very happy.
	And she says, I started putting the kids on grass-fed meat, raw milk, pasture-raised eggs, and we've never had a problem since.
	The kids look beautiful.
	So there you go.
	Whenever the government says something, run the opposite way.
	Run the other direction.
	They either want us dead... I don't know what their problem is, the problem with these agencies.
	They're corrupted.
	They've been captured by various industries and they're just corrupted.
	There's no two ways about it.
	And this milk thing is ridiculous.
	But let's go on with these tips.
	Your point, let's just stick a pin in that.
	They're corrupted because they are all for industry.
	They're not for your health.
	CDC is not for your health.
	They are for industry.
	Remember COVID?
	And are people who drink raw milk actually taking this advice?
	Laugh Tale!
	It doesn't seem like it also.
	Okay.
	But I do.
	I sit at home.
	I drink my pasteurized milks.
	It doesn't seem like it also.
	Okay.
	We reached out to a few raw milk groups and they say that the customers have been asking a lot of questions but demand seems to be holding steady.
	How popular is raw milk anyway?
	Like I don't think I have ever tasted it.
	She's never tasted raw milk this woman and she's a reporter and she's reporting on the story.
	Isn't it something like you'd want to do that?
	I mean, we've reported on Adderall.
	Why?
	Because I've tried it.
	Vyvanse.
	Tried it.
	Tried everything.
	I mean, we want to know about LSD?
	We go to John C. Dvorak.
	We've all tried it.
	We're real reporters.
	I've never had raw milk.
	I'm afraid.
	Is raw milk anyway?
	Like, I don't think I have ever tasted it.
	Yeah, well, there's not actually a lot of... Wait, stop, stop.
	She doesn't think she's ever tasted it.
	Does she not even know what she's up to on a day-to-day basis and she's drinking stuff?
	I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	I was so hammered, man.
	I don't remember what it was.
	It is raw milk anyway.
	Like, I don't think I have ever tasted it.
	Yeah, well, there's not actually a lot of raw milk drinkers.
	Less than 2% of the adult population in the U.S.
	according to an FDA study from a couple years ago.
	You know what it is?
	Six million people.
	These women, they drink soy milk and nut sap.
	That's why.
	They drink nut sap.
	Yeah.
	Almond milk.
	Yes.
	That's the popular.
	But the ones who do drink it are very passionate about it, and they usually fall into two camps.
	So there's the Trump voters, original raw milk supporters who've been around for decades.
	They've long wanted access to local healthy food.
	And more recently, the raw milk movement has picked up people that want less government regulation, food freedom.
	So we've watched this industry for a long time say that this food freedom was boosted by COVID when distrust of the government and government scientists really grew.
	Ah, there it is.
	Food freedom.
	They must be Republicans.
	Food freedom.
	Distrust of the science.
	No, imagine that.
	Food freedom.
	And I'm looking at the trolls, and the trolls have good points, as always.
	But, you know, to think that the government wants to kill you and weaken your immune system, if only it were that easy.
	What John said is correct.
	They are captured.
	They are working for industry.
	Industry says, we can't have this.
	We need to sell our pasteurized milk, our nut sap products.
	These are big lobbies.
	So that's why they get these reports put out and they're clearly feeding the news media.
	Wait until you hear my CBS clips.
	And by the way, I want to mention, this is about a 15 minute report blasting raw milk.
	I just chipped out a bunch, about five, six minutes of it.
	You have chipped well, my friend.
	What about testing?
	I mean it sounds like there's all this fear and people are saying, no, that's just speculation.
	But it seems like knowing whether there is actually the virus inside the raw milk supply would help clear this up.
	So Kiara, what do we know?
	Why does she keep laughing about it?
	I don't know, it's weird.
	These people, these Republicans, these Trump voters, they're drinking bird flu virus.
	You're right, Elsa.
	It would really help to know if and how much virus is out there in the raw milk supply being sold now to people.
	How much virus is being sold to people?
	Wow!
	NPR needs to be shut down.
	It does need to be shut down.
	It would kind of hurt our show, but it needs to be shut down.
	But testing doesn't seem to be happening regularly and that data is really hard to come by.
	That's why we tried to find our own.
	But when I brought From that raw milk that I bought from those four Texas farms to one of the few labs authorized by the USDA to test milk for bird flu, the lab insisted on calling each of the four farms first for permission, though the USDA has confirmed the agency doesn't require permission from farms to perform the test.
	None of the farms gave the lab permission to run the tests.
	They told the lab they were aware of what a non-negative result would do for their business, so the lab refused to test our samples.
	Oh, that's suspicious.
	A non-negative, non-negative test that could be bad for us.
	Oh, we don't want... Okay, now I, as a lab rat in my younger days... Yes, in your day, in your day, yes.
	I don't believe this.
	That they wouldn't test it?
	I don't believe it either.
	I think the farms, the ranchers don't want to test it.
	So you go to the supposed USDA approved.
	So what?
	Go to a different lab.
	There are labs that can test for this.
	Abbott Labs.
	I was thinking about this, what was going on here.
	And her excuse was, well, you know, they couldn't do it.
	She's a reporter working for NPR.
	She has a budget.
	They went to the lab.
	This is my guess.
	They went to the lab and they said, yeah, we can test for this.
	It's going to cost you $1,500 a test.
	Or $2,500.
	These are not going to be a cheap test.
	To test for bird flu in raw milk from an official lab that gets government money?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They're going to say, yeah, it's going to cost you $6,500 to do these tests.
	Uh, or more.
	Or more.
	And she says, oh, I haven't got a budget for that.
	They only gave me $500.
	You know, because advertising, underwriting, whatever you want to call it, is down.
	It's down.
	So we don't have the money for it.
	Yes.
	So she comes up with this cock and bull story to get out of the fact that she didn't have the cash or they didn't have the resources to do these tests.
	Well, no, the standard test of 25 cycles PCR, you know, that's $500, but you really want the 45 cycle, don't you?
	Yeah, that's going to cost you extra.
	Well, it's even beyond that because they have to be equipped to just it's it's not like testing for sodium in cereal.
	It's not like a potassium test.
	It's not like a simple test.
	Bird flu virus.
	This is an inexpensive test, no matter how you're going to look at it.
	So she just dropped the ball on this, and they couldn't, you know, the way you would have done it if you'd done it right.
	She lied.
	She lied.
	Would you like some free publicity for this lab?
	You know, we'll give you a big write-up, and we'll promote you, and if you just do the damn test for free.
	Hey, it's good for your exposure.
	It's good for your brand.
	It's good for your brand.
	It's good for your brand if we do that.
	So she doesn't get the test done, and the whole thing falls through.
	So the whole reason for this report, which began, if you listen to the beginning, was to grab some raw milk from those Texas ne'er-do-wells and test it, and she couldn't get that job done.
	So this continues on as a little discussion, and then it ends with this clip, which is the eye-roller clip that just is like, okay, let's just make stuff up and try to frighten the public.
	If drinking milk with a virus is an easy way for people to get infected, and there are other worries.
	Like what, Kira?
	You gotta have the rustle of the paper as she turns the page on the script.
	Like what?
	Like what, Kiara?
	And there are other worries.
	Like what, Kiara?
	So the worry is that if influenza viruses from two different species, like a human and a bird species, in fact, one person at the same time, a new kind of virus could be created that would be more contagious than people.
	That could lead to a pandemic.
	The more animals the flu spreads to and the more people it spreads to, the greater the chances that that could happen.
	That's why, even though the official assessment is that the risk to the public is low, federal health officials are urging people to be cautious and not drink raw milk.
	So we're back to the wet market in Wuhan?
	Is that what this is, basically?
	But are they trying to remind us that that actually happens somehow?
	That you eat the infected animal and then you get the pathogen?
	Because that's what it sounds like they're trying to do.
	They don't know what to do.
	This is flailing.
	This is a terrible report.
	And all it is, is don't drink raw milk.
	And nobody who drinks raw milk is going to listen to him because they usually have a trusted dairy that they just, you're not randomly drinking it.
	And you're just ringing it from one source usually that you can trust and there's only a few of them and because there's too much work to make the stuff to be honest about it and and they're just trying to dissuade everyone it this is a Piss poor job of promoting, and this is going to continue.
	I don't know what they're doing.
	They're going getting nowhere with this.
	No, no, they are not.
	No, they have a new tactic.
	And that's we will witness that in the clips from CBS.
	But I want to take a little detour.
	It's almost like an entremont.
	Or no, what's what's in the in the middle of the meal?
	What do you call that?
	A passepartout?
	The entremont.
	Oh, that's the entremont?
	I thought the entremont is before you eat.
	No, no, no.
	That's the aperitif.
	Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
	The entremont.
	A little entremont from Bitcoin Bobby, who was interrogated by Ben Shapiro.
	Fast talking, fastest six gun in the West, Ben Shapiro.
	And he turned it into a campaign ad.
	But it was quite good in this context because Bitcoin Bobby, the op, is telling us how To drain the swamp of exactly this problem.
	Every single agency, and the agencies are part of the executive branch, are they not?
	Am I?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So this is, they should be listening to the president.
	The president should be the one who is in charge of them.
	And he explains in this clip, it's 145, a little longer than I'd like, but it's good.
	He explains what the swamp is.
	how it's captured, why Trump couldn't drain it, and then what he would do if he was president.
	What do you do about the size and scope of the executive branch?
	It's completely unwieldy.
	You have enormous numbers of people who are supposed experts in their particular fields.
	How do you clean that out?
	You do it one agency at a time, and I've sued almost all these agencies.
	I've sued NIH, CDC, FDA, EPA.
	I've sued USDA multiple times.
	You know, they didn't start out corrupted.
	They started out idealistic.
	They started out models for the rest of the world.
	They started out serving the public interest, and they didn't always do that perfect.
	Perfectly, because bureaucracies make mistakes.
	But you can restore those cultures.
	You stop the profiteering.
	The FDA gets almost 50% of its budget from the pharmaceutical companies.
	Of course that's not gonna work.
	NIH scientists should not be able to collect royalties.
	We have to stop the revolving doors that put corporate capture on steroids.
	In these agencies, there are individuals at high levels who have corrupted them.
	And I'm not just talking about these agencies that I've visited, but also this.
	I had dinner with Mike Pompeo about four months ago, and he said to me, and my one biggest regret in life is that I didn't clean up the CIA when I had a chance when I was running it.
	And he said, virtually the entire upper echelon of that agency are made up of individuals who do not believe in the democratic institutions of the United States of America.
	The upper echelons are controlled by the military industrial complex and people who would do its bidding.
	When we sued Monsanto We got discovery documents that showed that the head of the pesticide division at EPA for over a decade was taking his orders from the highest officials of Monsanto to make sure no study got done that would look at the links between glyphosate and cancer.
	I can tell you who those individuals are at CDC.
	Colleen Boyle.
	Frank DeStefano, I know the names because I've dealt with them.
	I know who has to be moved.
	President Trump wanted to do this.
	President Trump came in and said, I'm going to drain the swamp.
	But he didn't know how to do it.
	You have individuals who are capable of committing civil disobedience that will turn off the lights.
	So there it is.
	that will stop the sewage treatment plant, will flood the streets, and that will embarrass the president.
	So they tiptoe around these agencies, and they never do anything about it because they don't know how to do it.
	But I know how.
	I know exactly what to do.
	So there it is.
	He spells it out very, very clearly, and that mainly, you know, they're terrorists, these agency people, because they'll turn out the lights, they'll let raw sewage seep in the streets, blaming on the president.
	And they will.
	So, now we come to CBS, the CIA broadcasting systems, and they have, yes, they have raw milk on the radar, but really this is going to somewhere else, which I have Uncovered!
	And we shall listen to a couple of these clips with America's other favorite doctor, also not a veterinarian, Dr. Celine Gounder.
	Wait, isn't she the woman whose husband died from the vax?
	I think she is.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Yeah, so she should know better, but okay.
	As bird flu spreads among cows in the U.S., the CDC is planning to publicly post data on this.
	Hold on a second.
	They start off with that premise?
	Oh, yeah.
	There's not a cow in the U.S.
	that has bird flu.
	Or bird flu.
	Or bird flu.
	Your accent is interesting.
	Bird flu.
	Bird flu.
	By the way, it was amuse-bouche is what I was thinking of before the meal.
	Oh, the amuse-bouche.
	Yes, amuse-bouche.
	That is a tie-in for people out there who want to have an amuse-bouche.
	Here's how it goes.
	Chef has prepared something special for you.
	It's usually a spoon with a gob of goo on it.
	And they say, here, and then they explain what it is, and you go, oh.
	It's a spoon with a gob of goo and like a nut.
	Like a pistachio on top of the gob of goo.
	Pistachio, not amuse-goo.
	We have an amuse-goo for you.
	And then they bring it out and they talk about, I once had this dinner at Charlie Trotter's once.
	Wait, who's Charlie Trotter?
	Charlie Trotter's one of the greatest chefs the United States ever saw, but he died recently from something or other.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	But he, uh, I went to his, you know, and I've met the guy before because he was on the West Coast doing some something that I was at.
	But he, uh, I went, I always wanted to go to his restaurant.
	It was one of the best, it was the top restaurant in Chicago at the time.
	So I go out there, I'm having dinner with my publisher, and we're trying to talk about business, and this joker just keeps coming over.
	He says, oh, Mr. Trotter would like you.
	Oh, Mr. Trotter, Mr. Trotter.
	And by the third time, he said, you know, we don't give a shit about Mr. Trotter.
	Go back and let us talk.
	It's also not an hors d'oeuvre, Ned, Ned.
	That's something different.
	By the way, Tina showed me- Hors d'oeuvres are outside of the meal.
	Tina, this French, Tina showed me something on Instagram, one of our friends.
	She posted, we have haricots verts, our first crop.
	It's called green beans.
	Haricots verts.
	Alright, back to the bird flu.
	As bird flu spreads among cows in the U.S.
	The premise you write is just, it's so misleading.
	The premise is totally misleading.
	That is a, right from the get go, this is a false report.
	It's fake news.
	Fake news.
	I talk to ranchers, ranchers say there's no bird flu.
	The CDC is planning to publicly post data on a specific influenza virus found in wastewater.
	Bird flu is a subtype of influenza A. Okay, now we're getting somewhere.
	Bird flu is a subtype of influenza A. Sounds like something I could catch.
	It's been reported in dozens of cows across nine states.
	There's also been at least two human cases.
	The agency says it has identified the virus at multiple wastewater sites.
	You may remember, wastewater testing played a crucial role in detecting COVID-19 during the pandemic.
	Yeah, let's review.
	No, it did not.
	This is a lie.
	That's a lie.
	It was sketchy at best.
	Everybody knew it.
	The company that was doing the wastewater testing went out of business.
	Somehow Google got some of this business.
	We have wastewater aficionados in our producing audience.
	Yes, we do.
	Quite a few.
	And it's all using PCR and you can do whatever you want.
	Spin it up.
	Oh, there's AIDS in the water.
	Oh, there's cholera.
	It's all there.
	The world exists of everything.
	So we have two to three lies already on the CBS report right from the get-go.
	We haven't even gotten to the juice yet.
	Dr. Selene Gounder, CBS News Medical Contributor and Editor-at-Large for Public Health at KFF, joins me now.
	So doctor, what does it mean that they're doing this kind of testing?
	Are they being extra careful because they learned something from COVID about early detection or is there something particular going on here?
	Well, so this is a new tool that we have to help monitor.
	No, I thought it was in use during COVID.
	You can't even get your own story straight.
	Now it's a new tool.
	It's not an accurate tool.
	By the way, we predicted they would do this.
	We would predict they would be right down to the house and they'd be like, okay, someone's pooping bird flu in there.
	Lock them up.
	Lock them in.
	This is a new tool that we have to help monitor infectious disease outbreaks.
	It's not the only tool, and there are some limitations here.
	COVID was really just an infection of people, at least in the United States.
	With the bird flu, as the name implies, it's not just humans, right?
	So you have birds who are infected, cows who are infected.
	It's not just humans!
	What?
	Yeah.
	You know, this is, I believe this is John Dickerson that's giving this report by his voice.
	I'm not sure.
	He should be ashamed of himself.
	He's one of the top producer, writer, reporters at CBS.
	But you have to understand, fake news makes all the money.
	Real news makes no money.
	Case in point, this podcast.
	COVID was really just an infection of people, at least in the United States.
	With the bird flu, as the name implies, it's not just humans, right?
	So you have birds who are infected, cows who are infected.
	And so you have to look at what the wastewater is really telling you, because the waste could be coming from domesticated animals, wild animals, milk being dumped into the wastewater, humans.
	And in rural areas, you have septic systems.
	So it may not even be picking up some of the waste there.
	Okay.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay, so it's in the... Oh, you have a septic system and it's not going into the wastewater.
	How about that?
	Yeah, we need to test your septic.
	In rural areas where those hicks live over Trump.
	I need to stick my dipstick into your septic tank.
	Be my guest.
	Okay, we continue.
	So now 70, I understand, dairy farm workers are being monitored.
	Does that mean they're being monitored just to see if something happens or what's the status of those?
	Yeah, okay, 70.
	Somewhere, some rancher went, okay, all right, you know, you can stick the cotton swab and let's see if we got bird flu.
	So these are people who've been exposed, right?
	Exposed!
	Right.
	Exposed!
	So as they get exposed.
	Oh, wait for it.
	So these are people who've been exposed, right, to animals that have had H5N1 infection.
	And so then the question is, have they or are they developing symptoms?
	Some of the common symptoms we know of are conjunctivitis, this pink eye.
	You've got to stop it again.
	Here it is, the symptoms.
	Yeah, conjunctivitis.
	A pink eye.
	These are animals, cows, that have been infected.
	Yes, infected.
	What evidence do we have that one cow, even one cow, has been infected?
	Are you questioning the CBS, the Tiffany Networks News?
	Dissemination?
	I just want to know what cow or herd has been infected.
	They have some traces of bird flu in the milk.
	In the milk, yes.
	But that doesn't mean the cow is infected.
	It doesn't mean anything.
	No, and the ranchers won't even let them onto their property.
	I don't blame them.
	I think they should shoot them.
	Amen.
	Animals that have had H5N1 infection.
	And so then the question is, have they or are they developing symptoms?
	Some of the common symptoms we know of are conjunctivitis, this pink eye.
	Oh no!
	Pink eye!
	Wow!
	You can get pink eye from wiping wrong and not washing your hands.
	I mean, come on!
	Which was in the Texas case that was recently reported.
	Breaking news!
	We have a rancher with pinkeye.
	A rancher with pinkeye.
	Oh no, not a rancher with pinkeye!
	That is possibly any rancher who doesn't get his foot half trampled or, you know, it's a very dangerous work.
	But oh, pinkeye.
	Oh yes, stop the presses.
	Which was in the Texas case that was recently reported.
	We are hearing many reports of other dairy farm workers with similar symptoms.
	They haven't all been tested.
	So we are waiting for a bit more information on some of those cases as well.
	And I'd love to know about the test because I'm pretty sure the test is another PCR bullcrap thing.
	PCR should not be used to diagnose any pathogen ever for any reason, according to the inventor, Kerry Mullins, of the PCR test.
	And how would they get it?
	Oh, how do you get it?
	Are you ready, Jim?
	Well, this is a great question.
	Oh, it's a great question!
	Oh, it's a great question!
	And how would they get it if they tested positive?
	Well, this is a great question, and this is why we need more data.
	You know, wastewater's not going to answer all the kinds of questions we have.
	We need more data, Jim!
	Some of what needs to be done is testing of the farm workers, figuring out how they were exposed.
	So was it through handling of milk or milking equipment?
	Is it maybe aerosolization of the milk or virus into the air?
	So you're getting into your eyes that way.
	Is it breathing it in?
	We don't entirely know for sure which of those is the cause.
	We don't know anything.
	It could be all of them.
	No, we know nothing.
	Now we're going to take a little sidestep back to your, let's not drink raw milk, because it's, I mean, it is so bad they have a descriptor for it, which is just fascinating.
	Now, raw milk, again, you probably still regularly drink raw milk, don't you?
	I think you're a raw milk drinker?
	Yeah.
	On a regular basis?
	Do you get it from an honor farm?
	We have a dairy in Washington State that is very Uh, nuts.
	Guy's run by a crackpot.
	There's also a raw milk dairy.
	He's a crackpot, believe me.
	He's like a clean freak.
	It's just unbelievable.
	There is a raw milk dairy that in California, which actually, I can't remember the name of them.
	I have it every so often.
	It's better tasting than the Washington stuff.
	It's really good.
	This is probably more like what you had.
	Now, you're not telling me that you transport this across state lines, do you?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	Mimi could get arrested if she does that.
	No, it's not a bug.
	And by the way, they closed the inspection stations.
	Oh, they did?
	On the highway?
	Yeah, there's no inspectors.
	Yeah, she's always complaining about, you know, you go through... She wants to be inspected?
	Yeah, of course, she's a woman.
	She listens to the show, careful.
	Alright, let's hear how bad this raw, which I love, as I said, what the Meat Mafia boys brought to my house, nice big jug of it, was, it was like, I'm like, oh my god, this is like eggnog.
	It's so good, so tasty.
	And does it matter whether it's pre or post-pasteurized?
	Yes.
	So, pasteurized milk... Why is she laughing?
	Because it's funny, for some reason.
	Why is that funny?
	I don't know, John.
	It's because the word pasteurized, it tickled her ears.
	So, pasteurized milk really does a very good job of killing bacteria and viruses.
	This is why Louis Pasteur, back in the 1800s, came up with pasteurization.
	Because back then... That's a lie.
	I looked it up, Louis Pasteur came up with pasteurization to pasteurize wine, as far as I can find out.
	You might know more about that than I do.
	Well, I never thought about looking into this.
	Yeah, it was not... I was doing some research and one of our producers sent me a note saying, Marie Antoinette never said let them eat bread.
	Cake.
	Right, let them eat cake.
	She said, what did she say?
	She never said it, it was... Was it a lie?
	It was the mainstream media of the time.
	That attributed it to her, when it can be documented that it was said by another famous woman in France, when Marie Antoinette was nine years old, they can document it, and it was never Marie Antoinette.
	She was falsely accused of saying this by the mainstream media, and their head got chopped off, thank you to M5M!
	So they, wait a minute, do you, oh no!
	I'll get this, I'll get this link and you can put it in the show notes.
	It's a good story.
	This is troubling to me.
	So the M5M lied about her.
	Lied, and then?
	And her head is gone.
	They chopped her head off.
	That's what you were doing.
	Lining up the clip.
	Took me a second.
	It took you a little longer than normal.
	So is Cuba Libre also not true?
	You know what the story behind Cuba Libre is?
	I forgot what that's about.
	So the Cuba Libre is the glass that they put the ice cream in?
	There's that coupe, that nice little rounded glass.
	Supposedly, that was exactly Marie Antoinette's breast size.
	I could be wrong.
	I'm sure that's bogus, too.
	I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong.
	All right, back to a descriptor for raw milk.
	Remember, Louis Pasteur did not invent this to pasteurize milk, because those people were drinking raw milk and they loved it.
	Bacteria and viruses.
	This is why Louis Pasteur, back in the 1800s, came up with pasteurization, because back then, people would get sick.
	Raw milk, think of it as raw sewage.
	It's heavily- Wow!
	Raw milk?
	Think of it as raw sewage!
	You're drinking sewage!
	So the natural exudation from a mammal milk, which women deliver too, I might add, and it's raw.
	Lactating mammal.
	The sewage.
	It's raw sewage to her.
	That's a fabulous report.
	It's not done.
	Raw milk?
	Think of it as raw sewage.
	It's heavily fecal-contaminated.
	Think about, you know, where the cows, you know, their feces are.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Now she thinks that the cows poop out of their udders?
	Or does she think the milk comes out of the anus?
	What is she saying to me here?
	That's what she's saying to one of the two.
	She says it's contaminated with fecal material.
	Well, the udders are nowhere near the fecal material.
	Selene, Dr. Selene, is she confused with the... What is she confused by?
	This is very odd.
	A chicken and an egg.
	An egg has a vent and it poops and the egg comes out of the same poop hole.
	What is that, the clava, the... It's a vent, whatever it's called.
	People would get sick.
	Raw milk?
	Think of it as raw sewage.
	It's heavily... Cloaca.
	Cloaca.
	Cloaca.
	Thank you.
	Trolls are on point today.
	Alright, let's go.
	Heavily fecal contaminated.
	Think about, you know, where the cows, you know, their feces are.
	This is not clean.
	You really want to be drinking pasteurized milk.
	It's not clean?
	The udders are super clean!
	And, um, I'm going to admit that now I'm really not going near any unpasteurized milk.
	So he's so grossed out and so ignorant that he's like, oh man, oh, those udders are dirty.
	They're filled with poop.
	Wow.
	You're getting clip of the day for this baby.
	No, this clip of the day is for the Clip Custodian.
	It's not for me.
	Oh my God.
	For me.
	Yeah, well the Clip Custodian's on it, man.
	And this is CBS.
	CBS.
	Last one.
	How concerned should the regular person watching here who hasn't been on a farm recently be?
	If you haven't been on a farm recently, go out, go to a farm, shake your rancher's hand, learn about where the udder is.
	So if you're not having direct contact with poultry or dairy cattle, those are the two types of animals that have been infected in the United States.
	If you're not drinking unpasteurized milk or raw milk, your risk as a member of the general public is pretty low right now.
	Pretty low?
	Wait a minute.
	It's not zero?
	It's just pretty low.
	Pretty low.
	No, that's a percentage.
	Your favorite.
	Your favorite percentage.
	It's pretty low.
	It's low.
	Pretty low right now.
	What we're concerned about is if this continues to replicate and mutate and evolve, whether it's in mammals or humans like dairy farm workers, that's when there's a risk of it evolving and adapting to humans and person to person spread.
	Ah, back to the wet market.
	And it jumps.
	Funny she said devolve, which doesn't make sense.
	And then he says, oh, it jumps.
	This is the wet market story that we were supposed to keep believing, but Fauci covered it up wrong, and so we figured it out.
	We're like, huh, lab, okay.
	But no, we're back to wet markets now.
	That's when there's a risk of it evolving and adapting to humans and person-to-person spread.
	And it jumps.
	And that's what we worry about.
	That's what can cause a pandemic.
	So it may not be today, but say within the next 10 years, if we allow this kind of thing to keep going, that's what we're worried about.
	And by then it's too late if you haven't learned how to.
	Thank you so much for being here.
	I don't know if you haven't learned how to just learn how to.
	If you haven't learned how to.
	And then he stops.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	How to lie.
	How to lie for you for a living.
	So a couple of articles I have here.
	First of all, Here's the headline.
	There's bird flu in U.S.
	dairy cows.
	Raw milk drinkers aren't deterred.
	Since March 25th, when the bird flu virus was confirmed in U.S.
	cattle, that's lactating mammals, for the first time weekly sales of raw cow's milk have ticked up 21%.
	Oh no!
	Get it while you can!
	According to Nielsen IQ.
	That could be the reason that Mimi says she went to, the other day when the story started to break, she went to Sunny Farms, which is the store that carries, you can go to the dairy and just buy it there, but you can buy it from the store.
	And shit, it was all gone.
	All the raw milk was sold out.
	You know why?
	Because people are like, oh, they're coming for our raw milk.
	Let's go buy it.
	We want it.
	We want as much as we can get because we're healthy human beings.
	We're healthy human beings.
	And while it seems like they all want us dead, they don't.
	It's just all capture.
	I'm sure this whole report was sponsored by, you know, by the Nutsap industry.
	Anyway.
	Nutsap is the big money maker.
	There is something else happening here.
	And it is, it comes under the recently announced Climate Smart Commodities Program.
	The USDA, it's the same people, same people here who are saying, you can't have your raw milk, have appropriated $3.1 billion to 145 new private climate smart projects, ranging from carbon sequestration have appropriated $3.1 billion to 145 new private climate smart projects, ranging from carbon sequestration Are you following me here?
	This is what they're doing.
	And so, these ranchers, these farmers, there's a whole dashboard by state, if you want.
	By state.
	Of projects, each one is, you know, it's three million here, four million there, climate-smart scaling mechanisms for regenerative farming.
	You want money?
	You want money?
	You just go to this dashboard.
	Here, let's see, what can I get in Texas?
	I can get farmers guiding farmers towards climate-smart agriculture.
	Oh, this is good.
	This is for black and indigenous producers.
	Mm-hmm.
	A lot of universities grabbing this money.
	Here, $5 million for Florida A&M, for National Black Food and Justice Alliance.
	Are you kidding me now?! !
	Climate resilience for the farm and market development, economically viable low carbon and climate smart practices for soybean farming.
	This is part of the climate, the global climate change scam.
	And they're buying everybody off.
	And what eventually happens is the small producers The small producers have no chance.
	They're just left with no chance.
	They're taken down into complete oblivion.
	There's no market access for people who want these products.
	And so now we have to go out and stand guard at Cole's Farm in case the FDA, USDA, and CDC want to come and test him and his cows.
	And then I got this note from Captain Ben.
	He says, you know, you've been doing a great job enlightening us about what's going on in the beef and dairy industry.
	I see some very interesting coincidences in the Gulf of Mexico commercial reef fishery that are similar to the cattle industry.
	So he's talking reef fish include grouper, snapper, tilefish, etc.
	In the last 25 years, the National Marine Fisheries Service has become more and more restrictive in the participation and regulation of the fisheries.
	He says, my theory is the same thing.
	They're collapsing the reef fishery industry so the small-time players will just get out and only a few large corporations own and control the whole thing.
	Yeah.
	He says that if you look at the reality show, Ice Cold Catch, he says, you'll see a large portion of the North Atlantic cod is owned and caught by two large long line boats that are owned by corporations.
	On the other hand, fellow commercial fishermen say, oh, this is the regulations are being imposed so that it'll all be imported.
	This is the same thing.
	Industry They control so much with the captured regulatory agencies, and you work at the USDA or the FDA, and then you're done working there, you've done your job, you've helped out the nut sap industry, you've helped out the salmon farms, and then you leave and then you go take a million dollar job over there.
	This is what needs to stop.
	And it's all under the climate change.
	Climate change.
	And that's where we're at.
	Climate change is the bane of our existence.
	It is.
	Even Jordan Peterson, we don't play enough Jordan Peterson, mainly because the jackets hurt my eyes.
	Stop with the jackets, Jordan, they're ridiculous.
	You're going on with those jackets.
	The jackets are ridiculous.
	They're not a statement, they're creepy.
	It's almost as creepy as King Charles' portrait.
	Who got him into doing that?
	Because it's like there's a couple of ex-basketball players that wear this kind of outfit.
	You know, Bill Cosby had sweaters.
	Remember that?
	He always had sweaters.
	It was actually a Dutch lady who made those sweaters for him.
	They were lame.
	He was like, oh, look at my sweaters.
	And what happened to you, Bill Cosby?
	Look at where the sweaters got you.
	It's got nothing to do with it.
	No, it has nothing to do with it, but I like it.
	I like it.
	So now Jordan Peterson, of course, says that this is a huge scam.
	And here's a little clip of him talking about it.
	This is particularly about the carbon dioxide, not carbon, not stuff that comes out.
	By the way, Stuff that comes out of the exhaust of your car is carbon monoxide.
	Am I correct?
	No, a lot of carbon dioxide comes off.
	Well, we need more.
	We're essentially in a carbon... I'm sorry?
	I'm going to say carbon monoxide does come out of the tailpipe.
	That's what kills you.
	And also various nitrogen oxides, even though most of those are taken up by the catalytic converter.
	Exactly.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	We need more carbon dioxide.
	Twice as much as we have today.
	We're essentially in a carbon dioxide drought by historical standards.
	So if you look at the proportion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere over the last number of hundreds of millions of years, like a pretty whopping time frame, we're at a very, very low level.
	We drop to about 350 parts per million by, say, 1850, something like that.
	Plants start to die at 250.
	Right, because they need carbon dioxide.
	So we were almost at the point where the plants were going to start to die.
	That's how low the carbon dioxide levels are.
	Now they have been increasing.
	Why?
	Well, some of that's probably man-made.
	You know, that's not exactly settled, but we could give the devil his due and say some of that's man-made.
	Okay, so now we're up to something in the low 400s.
	And that's been increasing, and perhaps because of industrial output.
	So what's been the major consequence?
	The major consequence is that the planet is 20% greener than it was in the year 2000.
	20%!
	This is NASA data.
	No one disputes this, by the way.
	The satellite imagery is absolutely clear.
	Okay.
	20% greener.
	An area The size of the continental US has greened since the year 2000.
	So the whole planet is 20% greener.
	That's a big effect.
	Crops yield, crop yield has gone up 13%.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Where's the planet getting greener?
	Because you heard climate, global warming, the deserts are going to grow.
	Well, then it wasn't global warming because that turned out to be a scam.
	Then it was climate change.
	The deserts are going to grow.
	It's like, no, the deserts are shrinking.
	The deserts are shrinking because the planet is greening because there's more carbon dioxide.
	Now I liked what he said here because it comes right back around to the agencies.
	If you have a deficiency of carbon dioxide, Of course we need Monsanto and glyphosate and all these things to improve your crop yield.
	We can't have that happening naturally by more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
	No!
	That means we start to lose money.
	This is the scam.
	This is the scam.
	What?
	Yeah, yeah, you start to lose money.
	Yeah, that's what it's all about.
	Who cares if it turns the frogs gay?
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the code for comrade.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Abrupt.
	Also in the morning, all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	I am getting ready to count you.
	Don't move.
	Hold on.
	They scurried off.
	Yeah, I'm keeping us on the schedule, man.
	It's 1.17.
	We're into the show.
	It's time.
	No, it was a natural break.
	A natural break as well.
	It was an unnatural break if ever there was.
	It was a very natural break.
	I think it was perfect.
	Perfect.
	Perfect natural break.
	I've counted the trolls.
	We have 1,820 trolls with us today.
	That is down from our last Thursday show.
	We had 1,943.
	So we've lost some along the way.
	No doubt because they drank raw milk and are now dying.
	They have pink eyes.
	They're dead.
	They're dead.
	We've got dead trolls.
	If you want to be a troll, and the trolls have actually been quite good today.
	They've been posting stuff in French and, you know, laughing along and, you know, everyone agrees on this stuff.
	I mean, you can't get them to agree on Israel and the Jews running the world, but, you know, when it comes to milk, everyone's in agreement.
	That's beautiful.
	If you want to be a troll, go to trollroom.io.
	You can listen to our show live on Thursdays and on Sundays.
	We do it live, which, by the way, is probably the biggest problem with podcasts today, is most of these podcasts are not done live.
	People take all the soul out of them by recording them and taking out all the uhs and the uhs and the mms and speeding it up a little and chopping out silences because, oh, people got no time.
	No.
	We are just pure and raw.
	We are the raw milk of podcasting.
	We are the raw milk of podcasts.
	And that's exactly what we are.
	The raw milk of podcasts.
	And it's good for ya.
	No pink eye here.
	Spotify.
	You listen to Spotify?
	That'll give you a pink eye.
	So you go to trollroom.io or you use a modern podcast app.
	This is another thing where we are forging the future, making sure that if you can't, you know, do you think that you could, by the way, did you see that Spotify got a notice from, uh, from the whole music association industries saying, I'm sorry, what, what?
	Spotify got a notice from the, uh, from the, from the, from all the associates, the, the, the copyright holding associations of music saying, check this out.
	You are hosting music that is not licensed in podcasts.
	So they didn't say which ones, but they say you have to remove them immediately.
	So now Spotify is going to go and start, I guess with AI, seeing if there's any music in your podcast, even if you've licensed it, even if it's value for value music, and they're going to start dropping you.
	Your podcast will be dropped.
	Dropped by who?
	By Spotify.
	They'll kick it off their platform.
	Who wants to be on their platform anyway?
	Well, we're not on it, but you know, people are stupid.
	They're like, they don't listen to the Podfather.
	I said, you don't want to be on Spotify.
	You know, Rogan got his first 300 million from Spotify by not being on Spotify.
	Then they said, well, come on, man, we'll pay you for it.
	And then he went on Spotify.
	Anyway, podcastapps.com, get a modern podcast app, one that won't be deplatformed because the back end is podcastindex.org and that's being distributed so even if we go away, no one will be able to take it away ever.
	We're Fedifying it, Fedifying it.
	Another thing we don't do is we don't take native ads or any kind of, you know, any commercials from any creepy corporations at all, none, never done it because that's another thing.
	You're going against the grain here, man.
	You're talking about a competitor, man.
	You can't do that.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's all censorship.
	Advertising is censorship.
	So we... Ooh!
	Whoa!
	That's a new phrase and I like it.
	Advertising is censorship.
	You've never heard me say that?
	Have I not done that?
	No, I don't remember you saying it.
	I would have picked it up because it would go right in the newsletter.
	Okay.
	And on hoodies over at NoAgendaShop.com.
	I'm telling you boys, you gotta get on the stick here.
	We need to promote them more.
	NoAgendaShop.com.
	We got hoodies, we got t-shirts, we got hats, we got koozies, all kinds of groovy stuff.
	NoAgendaShop.com.
	No, instead we have adopted for 16 years now, I think, yeah, about 16 years, maybe a little more, the value for value model.
	We probably didn't start calling it value for value until 14 years ago.
	And then that just stuck.
	And it's amazing how this concept is spreading far and wide.
	I actually have an M5M segment for after after we talk about some of our executive and associate executive producers about how they are losing out, how it is crumbling, how it is all falling apart.
	No, we use value for value.
	The whole world is talking about value for value.
	Case in point, this is the Auf Auge Hörne podcast show.
	Auf Auge Hohne Podcast Show aus Deutschland!
	Listen carefully.
	That's right!
	Voluntarily.
	Value for value.
	how to define the value for value.
	You don't have to give money for only for services and services.
	You don't have to give money for value.
	There is a lot of value for value.
	I think that Fairtalk finanizes not on this, but on value for value.
	That's right.
	You can also use it for us to pay for free.
	But it's about spending and free.
	Free.
	Voluntarily.
	Value for value.
	You heard it.
	Even the Germans are in on it.
	Huh?
	There's no German translation for the phrase?
	No, man.
	It's like, no, it's value for value.
	No, man.
	No, man.
	The way I see it, this is like an original phrase.
	It only has to be spoken in English.
	Value for value, uber alles, man.
	That's how we roll.
	So one enormous piece of value for value, and it's time, talent, and treasure.
	And this whole show was built up of producers who contribute to the show.
	Clip Custodian, Clip Collector, Dave Ackerman, all these people who are helping us on that angle.
	But then we have Void Zero with technology keeping us running.
	We got the art generator.
	We've got the meetup servers.
	We've got the server, Tim!
	Codes Monkey!
	People doing all of this.
	That's all valuable.
	And what our artists do, As valuable as well.
	They go to noagendershop.com.
	They upload art for us to choose from.
	So we have fresh, funky, fresh, beautiful art every single show.
	You see it pop up.
	It looks great when we post about it.
	It looks great in newsletters.
	And it also looks great over there at noagendershop.com.
	Now we're traditionalists.
	We like to do some on special days like Mother's Day.
	We like to have a Mother's Day presentation.
	And there were several to choose from, but Nessworks, Nessworks nailed it with the No Agenda Movie Theater.
	And as I looked at this, this art even, because I talked about the movie, The Unsung Hero, which is a great Mother's Day movie.
	I hope you all took your mom to go see it.
	As I looked, he even put in the tasty pretzels that I had.
	At the movie theater.
	Popcorn, pretzels, there's two people.
	Now, we don't think it's a guy and his mom, but probably a guy and his bride who is a mom, which is also a fair game.
	Yeah, obviously, unless it's a perverted picture.
	Well, it's Nessworks.
	You never know.
	He is one of those great Dutch grandmasters, so we got to be careful.
	But we appreciate what Nessworks did, and we want to... I just logged into the art generator.
	See, the artists do this on the fly, live, while we're doing the show, so we can choose it right after we're done.
	I already see some funny stuff for this show.
	Now, Comics for Vlog... I should mention, by the way, the one next to it, Mom on the Burning Sun, that wasn't available to us.
	What do you mean?
	Yes, we discussed it.
	The Solar Flare Mama?
	I don't remember it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I said, how about that one?
	And you said, no, I hate it!
	That's not true.
	I'll tell you which one you said that about.
	You did say that about one of them.
	Which one?
	Which one did I say?
	I don't know.
	It was another one you wanted.
	Well, Stormy Trump.
	No, he couldn't really come out.
	This one is the only real choice.
	I mean, ComixerBlogger posted 5,000 AI-generated buttons.
	It was ChallengeCoin template.
	ComixerBlogger, no.
	It's just no.
	I don't get it.
	Doesn't he see it's not... Happy Mama was creepy with the chocolates.
	Um... What else was there?
	Was there anything else?
	You know, this was the only piece that was really good that was usable.
	There's a Stormy Trump thing down there where Douglas Harris did.
	And we say, you know, don't do stuff like that.
	It's gruesome.
	And, you know, Bill Walsh tried to do like kind of a cheesecake.
	By the way, I think I have a picture of my mom who looked like that at the time with her apron on in the kitchen.
	She had that hair in like the 60s.
	You know, it's very Americana, but no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Um, was there anything else?
	I think that was it.
	Tante Neel did some flowers, which was always good.
	It's a Hail Mary, but it's a good one.
	By the way, Tante Neel, another one of those great Dutch grandmasters, uh, so she, uh, she's coming to the meetup on June 15th and she sent me a picture.
	Of the two of us.
	From 30, almost 33 years ago.
	Wow!
	1992.
	She has the longest living crush on you of anyone.
	And she looks like she was 16, I think.
	That sounds right.
	I probably wasn't much older.
	And she says she has a scrapbook.
	Oh my gosh, he probably has an altar or a throne with pictures of you all over it.
	You mean a shrine?
	Shrine!
	I blew the joke up.
	Yeah, you did.
	I'm very excited to see her scrapbook.
	I hope she brings it.
	She says, no, I'm a grown-ass woman.
	I'm not going to bring it.
	Yes, you are.
	You're bringing the scrapbook.
	We know you have it.
	Bring it.
	So, thank you very much, Nestworks, and thank you to all of our artists for all the work you always do.
	It is tremendously valuable to us and to the show, and we appreciate the work that all of you do.
	We're always going to be honest, though.
	We're always going to tell you exactly what we think, and there you go.
	So, stop with the AI, Commissioner Blogger.
	Now for the treasure portion, we'd love to give thanks to all of our producers.
	The whole beauty of Value for Value is you can give whatever you want, whatever the show is worth to you.
	Five dollars may be a lot to you.
	By the way, if everyone gave five dollars, it's the pipe dream.
	But if everyone gave five dollars, these segments will be way shorter and we could just run through it.
	There'll be no segments.
	There'll be no segments.
	You're right, there'll be no segments.
	Instead, the balance always comes from the executive and associate executive producers.
	We appreciate them very much.
	And we kick it off with Kiernan Hennessy.
	Who's in Dublin.
	County Dublin.
	Ireland.
	Ireland.
	$1,000.
	And Kieran says, Hi.
	Hey.
	No jingles, no karma, thanks.
	However, as this is my third, my third 1K payment, if you will accept that without accounting, I would like to claim the barony of Donnybrook.
	I'd say that is approved.
	Approved, approved, approved, and thank you very much.
	Sounds good.
	Kieran, we appreciate it.
	We'll, uh, we'll hit that, uh, we'll hit you up with that, uh, later on with your official title change.
	That's the name Hennessy.
	Yes.
	Say no more.
	Okay, well then we move on to, uh, Alan Finston in Blaine, Washington, and he, uh, sent a check-in and a note, and you know why, how you can tell it's a note?
	Because it's on paper.
	Sounds like paper.
	The fourth with, he writes.
	Please find my second installment of 33333 for Fast Track the Knighthood.
	Nice.
	I should be getting that ambassadorship to Belize any day.
	Asking for a birthday blessings for myself and as I approach 60 times around the sun.
	Also asking for a birthday blessings for my smoking hot wife and smart, he puts and writes it in.
	After the fact, he wrote in, smoking hot and smart.
	Wife Joni, 6'15", and my beautiful daughter Isabel, 6'1", everybody.
	Wow, that's a threefer.
	Yeah, tall, tall.
	They're on the list, I guess so.
	I thought they were just tall, but no, it's all birthdays, okay.
	6'1".
	6'15".
	Currently residing in New York City, Brooklyn.
	It's good to go meet your stepdaughter.
	Yeah, go meet Elise, yeah.
	But don't hold that against her.
	Thanks for all you guys do to keep me sane.
	I'll be dropping my next donation in a few months.
	We hosted a meetup recently at our bistro, the Vault Bistro and Wine Bar in beautiful Blaine.
	Gateway to the USA where I can still see socialism from my deck.
	A good time was had by all.
	Still waiting for either of you guys to show up at our bistro where you will be treated like the OG gangsta kings that you are.
	Perfecting my round table request.
	Stay tuned.
	Thank you for your courage and the best podcast in the universe and for the best podcast in the universe and put that in there.
	Allen Finston and Blaine Washington.
	Thank you, Allen.
	We move on to Dame Lisa from Foxborough, Massachusetts.
	Lots of casinos there, if I recall.
	Foxborough Casino.
	Also a piece of paper.
	I have the scan, Adam and John, 333.33.
	Encloses my annual donation.
	Thank you.
	Seeing as you encouraged the airing of grievances, I will admit I am still a bit miffed that you did not acknowledge my gift of Ruffles all-dressed chips last spring.
	I believe this to not be true.
	I think we most definitely discussed the box of Ruffles all-dressed chips she sent.
	You said most definitely.
	I meant it.
	A hundred percent.
	However, she says, I'm trying to let that go.
	Yes, it's called forgiveness.
	I think that we got the chips and they were so gross that we didn't want to make her embarrass her.
	I think you may be right.
	Ruffles, let me see.
	Ruffles all dressed chips.
	It was like, I believe there were a small bag of potato chips that had every imaginable spice and seasoning all thrown into one to make a mess.
	I believe that to be true.
	I do believe.
	Yes, well, I see we discussed Ruffles' chips on episode 1064.
	Let me just... Yeah, that was probably the... So we did discuss them.
	She didn't hear it.
	I think we did.
	I'm pretty sure we did.
	Yes.
	Anywho, I'm trying to let that go.
	I know you must get a lot of gifts and I'm more worried that you will find an exit strategy and leave me and my amygdala stranded.
	Well, that's... yes.
	Keep up the good work, Dame Lisa of Amick Lake in Foxborough.
	Podcasters in Residence is our latest scheme.
	We'll probably get points on every deal.
	Points, man.
	We'll get points.
	Oh yeah, we'll get some points on some deals.
	We'll get points on the deal.
	Podcaster in Residence.
	Hey, hello VCs out there.
	We'll do great.
	So, tell me about your latest AI play.
	So, what's the TAM on your product?
	That's the Total Accessible Market for those not in the know of VC Speak.
	I impressed you with that, I can tell.
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Okay, alright.
	You're up!
	Oh, uh, I am up with... Sorry.
	Sir Pursuit.
	Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility.
	Another?
	Another?
	Note and paper.
	This is great.
	Please find and close my May donation of 333.33 if Adam would kindly chip in a penny.
	No, I've got one.
	Hold on.
	It's in that small pocket in my... There it is.
	In my jeans.
	He will help me stay aligned with the universe.
	See accounting below.
	And he's got the accounting.
	He's got 433.33.
	He doesn't need a penny.
	But he got one.
	Sincerely, sir.
	Pursuit of peace and tranquility in the lands of the red clay and the cherry trees.
	He's got the accounting, but he doesn't...
	He doesn't say anything about winning an upgrade.
	Well, he gets an upgrade.
	I think he gets an upgrade.
	He's on 4.
	Well, he's baron plus.
	Isn't that a bicount or a burl or something?
	He's on the list for something.
	Hold on a second.
	Title change.
	No.
	No, he didn't ask for anything.
	Well, he didn't ask for anything.
	Well, if he asks for something, we'll give it to him next.
	Of course.
	With great pleasure.
	And I don't get the penny.
	With great pleasure.
	Mike Ellis is in Pottstown, PA. 333.
	ITM John Adam, the pride of successfully hitting my uncle Jimmy Rowe in the mouth, was soon overshadowed by the shame of my douchebaggery being called out on the last show!
	The dirt won't come off!
	Perhaps a de-douching might cleanse me of my shame?
	You've been de-douched.
	I just keep taking from the best podcast in the universe without returning any treasure to the cause?
	Well, no more!
	Love is lit and love you guys.
	jingles anything rev sharpton and yelling dog karma john of jupiter in centerville utah uh two three four five six becomes the first social executive producer.
	This donation brings me to knighthood.
	I've been part of the No Agenda community for ten years to the day!
	And it's made a double plus good difference in my life.
	Thanks to Sir Sean of the Northern Everglades for hitting me in the mouth and keeping me honest.
	Thanks to my smokin' hot wife, Jenny, for permission to become a knight for my joint birthday Father's Day present.
	Wow, that's nice.
	Very good for Jenny.
	She's one of the smart ones.
	She's smart.
	She's one of the smart ones.
	Shout out to Grimerica and to the producers of a similar line of work who publicly share the information I haven't.
	Speaking of spooks.
	Oh.
	Speaking of spooks, anyone else suspicious that Sparky the Dimension Dog and Phoebe haven't been seen in the same place?
	Please knight me Sir John of Jupiter, lover of Loxahatchee.
	Loxahatchee and emissary to the perpetual pioneers.
	I would like some street meat and Everglades heat at the round table.
	I can get some Trump's job karma for inspiration and an Atlas shrug since I'm still waiting on my invite to Galt's Gulch.
	And he's an associate executive producer and will be knighted today!
	By Ayn Rand. Jobs, jobs, jobs.
	You thought karma.
	There you go.
	Peace.
	Steve Dimitrijevic.
	Dimitrijevic.
	What do you think it is?
	Dimitrijevic?
	I want to say it fast.
	Dimitrijevic.
	I don't know.
	It seems like there's something else in there.
	Anyway.
	Well, he sent it.
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	Yeah, he sent it.
	Steve sent in a note.
	He's in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
	And, uh, what was his donation amount here?
	He sent us, uh... Oh, RoaDux.
	RoaDux.
	222.22.
	One of our... another one of our favorites.
	Uh, John Adam, thank you for your courage.
	Been listening since Adam's first Rogan appearance.
	Rogan donation.
	Please credit this donation to my beautiful wife, Michelle.
	Oh, that's a switcheroo then.
	Switcheroo.
	Since giving up her nursery... her nursing job due to jab refusal... Good woman.
	She has given birth to our two beautiful HR daughters.
	HR?
	Oh, human resource daughters.
	And started a tallow-based skincare company.
	I could not be more proud.
	Now watch out, FDA's gonna come for ya.
	And we never had a fight!
	With all the recent talk about banning beef and cattle shortages, I knew it was time to donate.
	For producers looking for a chemical-free skincare, go to purelyraisedskincare.com.
	That's purelyraisedskincare.com.
	And use code ITM20 for 20% off your first order.
	Yak karma for all!
	Wow.
	I love it.
	I love it when people start businesses like that.
	I bet it's dynamite.
	I really do.
	Thank you.
	You've got...
	So, Michelle, Michelle is in there.
	Michelle.
	Michelle, my belle.
	We have another Michelle.
	Michelle Cartmel.
	How about that coincidence?
	In Westbrook, or West Bank, I'm sorry, B.C.
	B.C.
	B.C.
	Uh, 21060.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	$200 USD is 285 Canadian dollar-ettes.
	2-10-60.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	$200 USD is 285 Canadian dollarets.
	Wow.
	It's been a crazy year for Sir Adriel and I.
	We moved away from the overly expensive cost of living in the Okanagan Valley in BC, wine-growing area, I might add, to Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada.
	It is.
	It's what they say.
	Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
	Gotta say, we love it here.
	This is a beautiful place and it's so much more like the Canadia we grew up in.
	We're really enjoying the lower cost of living, the practical people, and the natural beauty of the area.
	Now we can afford to donate more often.
	Everybody should move to Saskatoon!
	She didn't say that, I did.
	Yeah, I like it.
	No jingles this time, just some moving karma as we finally move into our permanent place after living off the good graces of a friend for six months.
	Wow.
	That is a good friend.
	Thank you for your courage, Michelle.
	That's a great friend, for sure.
	You've got karma.
	And then we move over to Eli the Coffee Guy.
	I happen to be drinking a gigawatt.
	This is still the Costa Rican Dota Tarazu.
	Snapshots!
	Yeah, I love that stuff, man.
	I only drink it on show days, by the way, because otherwise Tina's like, calm down.
	Calm down.
	I want to credit this donation to Scott McKenzie.
	Okay, I will change that credit.
	Ah, he is the author of the No Agenda themed books.
	I have them all.
	Yes.
	Such as Tales from Gitmo Nation and Cockroach Milk.
	We've been talking about this for so long, haven't we?
	We were talking about bugs in your food before Klaus Schwab was born.
	Producers who want a fun, easy read, laced with dark humor, check them out.
	Scott McKenzie.
	No agenda-themed books.
	And whether you make your lattes with cow's milk, nut sap, or cockroach milk, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your first order.
	Stay caffeinated!
	Eli the Coffee Guy.
	They sent me some of the new Rwanda special edition.
	Ah, have you tried it yet?
	No, I just finished the last grinding of the last... I'm just going in next.
	It's good stuff.
	I gotta say.
	And it's just the husband and wife who do this.
	Right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, as far as I can tell.
	Stacey.
	Stacey.
	And they sent me a beautiful note with my cans.
	You know, I like the cans.
	I like the cans, man.
	I like the cans.
	Cans.
	I get all jacked from the cans.
	Well, that brings us to Linda Lupatkin, another contributor to the show, a consistent one from Lakewood, Colorado, who wants Jobs Karma.
	She comes out always with $200.
	Every show.
	And she says, for a speedy, a speedier job search, for a speedier job search, let me get my intonation correct.
	Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your resume, executive resume, and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc with a K as in Inc.
	Or find Linda Lepatkin, the Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes on the producer list.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	I saw that our resident racer, Ashlyn Speed, Speed Racer, who has been doing a dynamite job of promoting Gigawatt Coffee and Image Makers Inc.
	So now she's signed with, like, some sports management company.
	Oh, good.
	Good for her.
	That's what she needs.
	Well, you know what's gonna happen?
	There go all the freebies.
	Before you know it, our logo's gonna be off the car.
	Well, those guys, those guys, they're not paying anything.
	I know what you're talking about.
	I know exactly what you're saying.
	But you know what?
	I'm okay with it because I could not be happier for her.
	She has winner written all her name.
	Speed.
	She's going to be on the podium.
	Always put a No Agenda patch on the outfit.
	Oh, you know, we'll get her a No Agenda.
	The management guys won't be able to do anything about that.
	That's right.
	No Agenda cowboy hat.
	You know, she always wears a cowboy hat because, you know, she's a Texas girl.
	Yeah, well that's a North Carolina look.
	Yes, exactly right.
	We're so proud of her.
	We want to see people like her succeed.
	Go on without us.
	It's okay.
	We don't need the logo.
	Just remember us.
	Just remember us when you're on the program.
	A female Richard Petty in the making.
	Woo!
	Only much better looking.
	Richard Petty, man, he was kind of harsh looking.
	Yeah, he was kind of a... Thank you.
	Big guy.
	Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers.
	Again, thank you to everybody who supports the show.
	You're a producer.
	For any amount, go to noagendadonations.com.
	We will be mentioning people above $50 in our second thank you segment.
	And of course, we always thank people under 50 who come in for reasons of anonymity.
	And again, those sustaining donations.
	Any amount is good.
	Go to noagendadonations.com.
	Our formula is this.
	for being executive and associate executive producers.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	I'd like to discuss the Miss USA controversy with a couple of NPR clips...
	Oh, good, because I already brought it up that something was going on, right?
	We talked about it a few shows ago.
	Yeah, you mentioned it.
	Yes.
	But this is like a... Something's going on.
	Something's up.
	This is like a classic example of NPR not being able to twist the story... To Trump!
	To Trump!
	To Trump!
	To make it something Trump did.
	I think you may have guessed it, but let's go ahead and pick one here.
	Now we turn to a scandal that's shaking up the beauty pageant world.
	Oh man, it's already starting off great.
	The beauty pageant world, oh no!
	Miss USA and Miss Teen USA recently stepped down.
	The organization that runs both of these competitions is under scrutiny.
	Now, former Miss USA Noelia Voigt cited mental health, while the former Miss Teen USA Uma Sophia Srivastava pointed to a misalignment of, quote, personal values within the organization.
	For more insight on this, we are joined here in studio by Amy Argettsinger.
	She's style editor at The Washington Post and the author of the book, There She Was, The Secret History of Miss America.
	Amy, welcome.
	Thank you for having me.
	Amy, just for starters, can you briefly walk us through what we know so far about these resignations?
	We haven't gotten a lot of details.
	It seems as though both the former Miss USA and the former Miss Teen USA are probably bound up by non-disclosure agreements.
	They've alluded to being limited in what they can say, but some details have trickled out just reading between the lines of their messages to the public on Instagram and by some comments that their mothers have given in interviews.
	And the general impression you have is that they feel like they were just shabbily treated.
	By the pageant management, that they were subject to criticism and disorganization.
	You've seen some phrases tossed about bullying, sexual harassment that wasn't taken seriously, things like that, but the precise details have not come out.
	The resignation statement that was put out by Noelia Voigt, who is Miss USA, went viral, and followers online were pointing out that her statement's first 11 sentences started with letters that spelled out, quote, I am silenced, unquote.
	I mean, do you think that's internet conspiracy theory, or that she's trying to say something significant there?
	For once, it does not seem to be internet conspiracy theory.
	People close to her have said, yeah, this is how she feels.
	That was an intentional message.
	And that's the message we've gotten, is that this was somewhat coordinated.
	These young women talked to each other.
	Their resignations had been preceded by that of the social media manager for the organization.
	Wow, it's about time.
	This is, I've never understood Why this is still a thing?
	I mean, it seems so off in today's politically correct world to have beauty contests at all.
	And to display women like... This is, of course, the season of reveal, and we'll find out about the Olympic Games, how the athletes are treated like just marketing meat.
	Marketing meat.
	That's all these women are, marketing meat for organizations that are corrupt and probably filled with creeps.
	Of course, I would draw creeps because, you know, you go where the action is.
	Hey, there's action over there.
	Yeah.
	So I am silenced as the first, you know, first, I actually wrote a column for Mac User Magazine years ago where I did that.
	You did, I am silenced?
	You did one of those?
	I didn't say I'm silenced, but I had some message using the first letter of every sentence.
	What was it?
	I can't remember.
	Happy April Fool's Day or something.
	I don't remember.
	The whole thing was... To let down?
	I think I did a bunch of these jokes and one of year I resigned, which upset the publisher.
	But there was a message was in there.
	But I remember one time I did one that was a mirror image, which was, I think, one of my more creative April Fool's gags.
	But yeah, using the first letter is not a, it's not a conspiracy when it spells out, I am silenced.
	No.
	It's like, what kind of, you think it's a coincidence that she wrote this?
	So, okay.
	Anyway, so now we go to part two because we got to get to the bottom of this.
	What's really going, who's responsible?
	More quietly, though, a couple of longtime executives with Miss USA stepped away in the past several months since the pageant management changed hands back in August.
	This is an organization that's in some upheaval, and that goes back a long ways.
	Voight hasn't commented further on her resignation statement, but a longer version of that resignation letter was obtained by some news organizations, and in it, she accused the Miss USA organization of, quote, a toxic work environment that at best is poor management and at worst is bullying and harassment.
	Given what you know about this organization, about its history, did those charges surprise you?
	No, they really didn't surprise me.
	Part of that has to do with the fact that this was the pageant organization, Miss USA, a subsidiary of Miss Universe, that was owned in part by Donald Trump.
	I think we all remember hearing in 2015, 2016, some of the accusations, some of the stories that came out about his behavior around contestants, the way he talked about them.
	Oh, my word.
	You know what?
	I thought that, you know, did John forget?
	Did he forget about what was going on?
	But this also deserves a Clip of the Day award.
	So the NPR and Washington Post, they can't help themselves.
	They just can't do it.
	Of course.
	We had to take it to Trump.
	It's Trump's fault.
	You know what?
	I know what the problem was.
	I know what she couldn't say.
	I know what's going on.
	Half of the contestants are dudes.
	That's what's happening there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We're sick of it.
	We're sick of it.
	And so is the sisterhood!
	Kappa Kappa Gamma!
	Six members of Kappa Kappa Gamma walked towards the Federal Court of Appeals in downtown Denver this morning.
	It's a space to be free.
	You're not exposed to the outside world, the male gaze.
	You're safe from all that.
	Their case was dismissed by the district court last year.
	The judge ruling even though Kappa Kappa Gamma's bylaws say, quote, a new member shall be a woman, the court can't be the one to decide whether that excludes transgender women.
	The sorority's attorney, Natalie McLaughlin, arguing today the fraternity council didn't amend the bylaws, just interpreted them.
	The term women is undefined in CAPA's bylaws, and that term women is not a term that has a singular definition.
	They say when a fraternity council is put into position, then they have the duty, that's the word they use, duty, To decide what that term means.
	And in this case, they decided that that is to include transgender women.
	The issue here is whether Fraternity Council has the right to interpret the term women.
	And it is not whether they have, you know, announced that term in the best form, but whether they have exercised the right to interpret that term.
	And that is what occurred here.
	The six women, though, say the way the sorority was asked to vote on Lankford's membership through Google Forms was against bylaws.
	So it was a big intimidation factor of, hey, we can see if you voted, we can see how you voted, and we can come talk to you about your vote.
	The three judges listened to both sides for a little over an hour.
	They did express doubt on whether they could make a ruling or if a lower court should continue to hear the case.
	No word on when they may come back with a decision.
	Okay, well, this is easy.
	Curry and Dvorak say, you're not a woman.
	We can define what a woman is.
	This has to stop.
	And it's crazy that we have a Supreme Court Justice, Katonji Jackson Brown, who in her confirmation hearing would not define what a woman is, and here we are.
	These girls, by the way, fantastic.
	They were rocking it.
	We're women.
	Look at us.
	We're women.
	Stay away, dude.
	There's an overriding question here, which is you got a sorority.
	I'm familiar with sororities and fraternities and how they operate.
	They vote the person in.
	If some transgender comes in and they don't want transgenders in their sorority, they just say no.
	I don't see why big fuss is being made.
	Didn't you hear what she said?
	Something about the voting, some screwy voting system.
	Yeah, they forced everybody open voting.
	It wasn't a closed vote.
	It was a Google forms.
	Google Forms.
	Goes along with Sheets.
	There's something about this story that doesn't make sense.
	I mean, I like what they're up to.
	Yes, me too.
	I like what they're up to.
	But it seems somewhat contrived.
	But women are under attack.
	And it has to stop.
	Particularly those of the lactating kind.
	Yeah, Liz, the digital billboard was supposed to celebrate breastfeeding moms, but after only three days, Molly Baas was told the 45-foot ad marketing her so-called lactation cookies was being taken down.
	It's super disheartening.
	It's disheartening and infuriating to me that my kind of first public foray into being a public mother was one that was deemed inappropriate.
	This is how the cookie crumbled for cookbook author Molly Baas.
	She says her lactation cookie ad...
	There's a lot of irony if you look around the landscape at times where what's going on and what historically is deemed an ad that's appropriate for a public space.
	I know that this is a systemic issue that exists in our society.
	That's why we put this campaign together, was to show an empowered pregnant woman.
	The ad space is operated by Clear Channel and Swell.
	Boz's partner says the company was told the ad violated guidelines for acceptable content, and that's why it was taken down.
	But Boz is now sharing photos of similar ads that also appear in Times Square.
	So, at the bottom of the story, besides possibly being a native ad, it is kind of despicable.
	We've gotten to this point where a woman is on a billboard and she's really only exposing her belly, a big pregnant belly, and that is deemed inappropriate by today's cultural standards.
	Whereas, well, go look at the Times Square billboards.
	It's all sexualized.
	And so this is, oh no, we can't have this.
	Oh no, it's shocking.
	Oh, it's triggering me.
	It's triggering.
	Oh, the rain triggers me.
	I'm triggered.
	We've got to grow up.
	I'm looking at this slightly differently.
	I'd like to know how a cookbook author can afford a Times Square billboard.
	She is the New York Times cookbook recipe author.
	She's a big deal.
	She's a big deal.
	A big deal doesn't mean you have the money to afford a... and especially a New York Times reporter, basically.
	She's a big deal.
	Go look her up.
	Having a big deal doesn't mean she has the resources to buy an... Think New Ideas had a billboard on Times Square.
	It's not that expensive.
	Yeah, but you had investors' money.
	That's right.
	It's not your money.
	It's not coming out of your pocket.
	Investors' money, yeah.
	It's a big difference.
	VC cash.
	Well, okay.
	I'm not looking at it that way.
	I'm looking at the mental health crisis we have in America.
	It's all around the world, but it's certainly in the United States.
	We have a mental health crisis.
	People are out of their minds.
	Then it's probably because they're not drinking raw milk.
	That would change.
	By the way, the New York Times had an outstanding, I was surprised, in this era of the whole child initiative, which is extremely disturbing.
	Not good.
	I have a pamphlet, which I've not allowed to post yet.
	I have a pamphlet that's distributed in schools from the Summit Counseling Center.
	And I mean, this is the stuff that they're identifying children with in schools by in-school counselors.
	This is a problem.
	Get your kids out of these schools.
	Don't even try to change the school, just get them out.
	Yeah, I'm thinking you're right.
	I mean, homeschooling, there's lots of resources for homeschooling.
	You homeschooled all of your kids?
	No, just a couple of them.
	Not the whole time either, just a period of time.
	But once you do it, you find out a couple of things.
	And there's categories of homeschoolers.
	There's the Christian homeschoolers, there's the Muslim homeschoolers, there's the Jewish homeschoolers, there's the secular.
	So there's four groups of homeschoolers and they intermix a little bit.
	The Muslim homeschoolers tend to be the most aggressive about field trips, so you try to hook up with a few of those guys.
	So the kids are always going out there at farms, they're at factories.
	The Muslim homeschoolers are great.
	There's resources, there's bookstores, there's online sources that once you get into it, it's just all of a sudden you're in a network you didn't know existed and then boom you get everything you need is there.
	It's a no-brainer.
	It's actually quite easy.
	The key, I'll give you this, the key to success to homeschooling is to get the kid to agree, your child.
	Yeah, to be into it.
	To say, to agree to it.
	Yeah.
	Would you like to leave?
	Yeah, this school is terrible!
	Would you like to be homeschooled?
	We will homeschool you, but you have to agree to cooperate.
	Sign this contract, kid!
	And once they agree to cooperate, then it's good to go.
	There's a lot of art, you know, reading on their own.
	And if I can just say, how many years was Jay homeschooled?
	Probably four or five, five maybe.
	Jay Dvorak, J-A-E, Jay Dvorak is one of the most delightful, productive human resources I've ever had the pleasure of working with.
	She does, noagendaabc.com.
	The books are shipping, by the way.
	They are?
	They're shipping.
	Yeah, they're shipping.
	The books are shipping.
	They're shipping as we speak?
	Noagendaabc.com.
	Get your coloring book, get your hard copy.
	She is one of the most enjoyable, pleasant, productive human resources I've ever worked with.
	And there you go, because she was homeschooled.
	She got no hang-ups, no issues, always smiley, always good, you know.
	I would recommend any organization hire her, except you can't because we got her under contract.
	She's at our publishing company.
	Well, not mine, but she's at a publishing company.
	You can't have her.
	So anyway, on the previous episode, I made some comments about social media and how useless, utterly useless it is to be posting about all the horrible things in the world.
	You might get it off your chest, but you're not doing anything.
	You're not starting a conversation.
	You're not getting anything going.
	You're not helping.
	Your memes really aren't doing all that much.
	You're in a little bubble, and you get your friends going, hey, that was great, man.
	That was a great meme.
	Oh, that was great.
	Oh, yeah.
	Ooh, I got them.
	Yeah, you showed them on the libs really little.
	There's more danger to social networks, particularly to the children.
	By the way, I saw a lot of positive comments.
	People like, you know, Adam's a horrible guy.
	I hate him.
	He's a grifter, but he is kind of right.
	You know, it's really kind of useless.
	You're not a grifter, that's for sure.
	No, they call me grifter.
	I'm a grifter.
	You may be a horrible guy, but you're not a grifter.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for clarifying.
	But there is more going on with social networking that I would like the parents who, of course, if you're listening to the No Agenda podcast, you probably already know this, but I was surprised, delightfully surprised, to see the New York Times post a whole piece on this, and I actually had a video, I clipped it, and this is about mental health and how social media and the experts on social media are ruining your children.
	Search for high-functioning anxiety on TikTok and look what happens.
	Three signs of high-functioning anxiety.
	With high-functioning anxiety.
	Five things you don't realize you're doing because of your high-functioning anxiety.
	More than 10,000 videos with millions of young viewers.
	Number one, you tend to have extremely high standards for yourself and might even identify as being a perfectionist.
	You're nice and easy to be around but you people please too much.
	Many are made by professional clinicians and they mean well.
	But here's the thing, high functioning anxiety isn't a medical diagnosis, it's a hashtag.
	No one cares about me, so why should I care about myself?
	It's okay to not understand what you're feeling.
	And it's easy to think that you're all alone.
	Over the last decade, there's been this massive cultural shift in how we talk about our psychology and our feelings.
	I see a therapist.
	It's okay.
	Even Burger King cares about your mental health.
	Awareness is good.
	It teaches us to talk about our feelings and it combats harmful stigma.
	But all this awareness is not reducing rates of mental health problems.
	What it is doing is convincing some teenagers that they have a mental illness when they don't.
	Yes, exactly.
	That's exactly what's happening.
	Oh, I have high functional anxiety.
	Guess what?
	Anxiety is a part of life.
	You don't need drugs for it.
	You don't need stuff to regulate your anxiety.
	And all of this stuff, it's all, it's professionals, John.
	It's professionals.
	It's all part of the American Psychiatric Association.
	Oh, no.
	If you feel like this sometimes, oh, you probably need some therapy.
	Take a pill.
	Yeah, you're a boy.
	You're a boy.
	It always ends up with you're a boy.
	Or a girl.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, um, be careful.
	Be careful out there, people.
	Ah!
	Ah!
	See, you've been hiding it from me.
	And I wasn't prepared.
	It was spread all over the place.
	What are you drinking?
	What are you drinking today, John?
	I'm drinking Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher, and this is a berry-lemon flavor.
	Ooh, what kind of?
	It's my last can of Hoppy Refresher.
	Hoppy Refresher.
	Interesting.
	Kind of a hint.
	Sounds good.
	Sounds kind of good.
	Gave me a case of it.
	You drank the whole case on the show?
	No, I drink it every so often.
	It's tasty.
	It's hoppy.
	Uh, let's see.
	We probably, let me see.
	Oh yeah, we should probably talk about this for a second, just because you're the expert.
	American families are now spending about $227 more a month compared to a year ago and about $1,037 more compared to three years ago.
	Even with incomes rising, costs going up have meant that credit card statements, how much money you're putting on that credit card is also rising.
	The number of Americans now missing their credit card payments is increasing with Gen Z, the most likely age group, Yeah!
	Everything's great!
	credit cards and the fed has signaled that rates are likely to go lower eventually but that eventually continues to get pushed out with inflation higher and we're starting to see it impact other areas like student loans student loan interest rates now the highest in nearly two decades yeah everything's great economy is good Best ever Best ever!
	Oh, Bydenomics is working everybody!
	Bydenomics!
	I got hairy legs!
	I expected 3.5% inflation month over month.
	You know, I don't know if I have a clip on this, but one of the clips may incorporate this, but NPR again, they talked about it like, this is great, the economy's never been in better shape, it's only 3.5% month over month, this is way down!
	Month over month?
	It's compounded, is it not?
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	It just keeps, it stacks on top of each other.
	So it was, whatever it is, it's more.
	Let's see how great the economy is.
	Let's see how fast food is doing.
	Back now with Red Lobster moving closer to bankruptcy.
	The Wall Street Journal reports the seafood chain could file for Chapter 11 as soon as next week.
	Red Lobster!
	It follows the sudden closure of dozens of restaurants.
	Red Lobster has been losing money for years.
	It's all-you-can-eat shrimp deal contributed to an $11 million loss.
	I mean, shrimp.
	Shrimp is the bug of the sea.
	They can't even make money on shrimp.
	They weren't.
	It was all-you-can-eat shrimp.
	They broke them.
	Hey, I don't know about you, but Texas has got plenty of these guys.
	But we had a lot of red lobsters out here.
	Big, fat guys.
	And they go into a place like this where it's all-you-can-eat shrimp for a fixed price, and they eat the place out.
	And then these guys managing Red Lobster are too dumb to pull the promotion.
	To realize this is not working.
	Well, there's another promotion.
	With these inflation numbers, actually, it was kind of funny.
	Let me see, do I have it in here?
	Let me see.
	I thought I had the inflation number.
	Oh, here's the inflation breakdown.
	It was kind of interesting to see how they, and of course these numbers are bogus.
	So all items 3.4% increase in cost, that is what they called inflation.
	The largest inflation categories were juices and drinks.
	29% increase.
	Video discs and other media.
	29% increase.
	Video what?
	Video discs and other media.
	29% increase.
	Discs?
	Video what?
	Video discs and other media.
	Discs?
	I know.
	I don't know why they're measuring that, but that's 29%.
	Motor vehicle insurance.
	We got hit by this.
	22.6%.
	We have as much chance of something happening to our car as Farmer Jed.
	I mean, we live in the sticks.
	It's amazing how much our car insurance went up.
	Admissions to sporting events.
	You're getting gouged. 15%.
	Food at home, though, only 1.1%.
	While food in general, like fast food, nah, that's going up.
	Then so McDonald's... Wait a minute, groceries have gone up.
	How could food at home only be 1%?
	Because that stems from groceries.
	1.1%.
	That's a bogus number.
	Beef roasts, 10.1%.
	I guess beef roast is not the same as food at home.
	Frankfurters, 7%.
	Um, fats and oils.
	Why are you eating that at all, people?
	5%.
	Canned vegetables, 4.8%.
	Tomatoes, 4.7%.
	Dried beans, peas, and lentils.
	Food away from home, though, is up.
	Vending machines, 7.3%.
	And limited service meals and snacks, 4.8.
	So that's, I guess, your fast food.
	They don't break it out by fast food.
	So McDonald's is feeling the heat because they are gouging people.
	Did you see that?
	There was a video that went viral of this lady.
	It's like she opens up her Big Mac and it's thinner than the pickle.
	The meat patty is thinner than the pickle.
	And it's transparent.
	There's holes in it.
	Yeah, it sounds like it.
	We had a McDonald's in Oakland.
	I should get some clips because I can get these clips.
	That was rat infested.
	We talked about that.
	It's been rat infested for over a year.
	We finally shut it down.
	We had clips of the rat infested.
	We had clips.
	They were your clips.
	Yeah, you don't remember.
	Rat.
	Yeah, rat.
	Um, so McDonald's is fighting back with a one month limited value meal.
	With fast food frustration frying customers.
	Whoa, nice alliteration.
	What happened to the dollar menu?
	Bring that back.
	This morning, some relief may be on the horizon of the Golden Arches.
	McDonald's may soon roll out a $5 value meal nationwide.
	Two people familiar tell CNBC the offer would include four-piece Chicken McNuggets, a choice of a McChicken or McDouble, fries and a drink.
	And the rumor hot off the press has consumers loving it.
	Because that seems too good to be true.
	I'm excited for it, if that's the case, because everything is expensive now.
	The fast food giant would be just the latest to offer a $5 meal deal.
	Igniting a battle in the burger kingdom as more inflation-cautious consumers are fed up with rising fast food costs.
	Yeah, nice native ad, CNBC.
	It was definitely a native ad, but the worst part is that it seems as if, at least from the ...forums that the franchise owners of all these McDonald's do not want this.
	No, because they're gonna get soaked on it.
	They're gonna get soaked on it.
	It's gonna be like the free or the all-you-can-eat shrimp.
	It's just that there's no money in it, and so they're not happy.
	Now at this point, you're better off getting some ground hamburger meat from your rancher!
	Yes.
	Yes, you are.
	You'll pay the same, if not less, and you can make a whole bunch of patterns.
	The number of people out there that have ranchers available to them is probably 1% of the audience.
	It's available to everybody in America.
	There's a map.
	And there's one near you.
	Beefinitiative.com.
	There's one near you.
	You can get this.
	This is the problem.
	People think that they can't get it.
	I'm just trying to keep people healthy.
	Do whatever you want.
	Feed your kids that crap.
	Feed your kids crap!
	Adam and John says, feed your kids crap, raw sewage.
	Let us, since we're in the season of reveal here, Let's go to the corruption, because they're all corrupt.
	All of them.
	All of them are in some kind of deal one way or the other.
	I love how Menendez has thrown his wife under the bus, though.
	Gold bars seized by the FBI will be put on full display in the federal corruption trial against Senator Bob Menendez.
	This is what prosecutors told jurors Wednesday afternoon during opening arguments or what they described as a roadmap to their case.
	Assistant U.S.
	Attorney Laura Pomerantz said this is a case about a public official who put greed first, who put his power up for sale.
	What was his price?
	Gold.
	She told the court the bribery scheme started in 2018 with Egyptian native Wael Hanna and the senator's wife Nadine Menendez.
	The two had been friends for years and that Hanna saw an opportunity as a failed businessman Pomerantz told jurors that Menendez promised to do things to benefit Hanna and the government of Egypt, which set in motion a web to make good on the bribery payments, with the help of Hanna's business partner, New Jersey real estate developer Fred Davies.
	But defense attorney for Menendez, Avi Weitzman, told jurors he was never and is not a foreign agent of the government of Egypt.
	No!
	He did not violate the law, period.
	Bob was doing his job and he was doing it right.
	He says the gold bars have been in his wife's Lebanese family for years and were listed on a 2022 financial disclosure form.
	Weitzman told the court, they want you to be blinded by the gold and cash, and that the government's case rests on little more than guesswork and speculation.
	Thursday morning, defense attorneys for Wael Hanna and Fred Davies will present their opening arguments.
	Yeah, I don't believe it for a second.
	It's the woman!
	It's the wife!
	Yeah, but listen to this.
	If the gold bars have been in the Lebanese wife's family for years, how come it just showed up on a statement in 2022?
	Yeah, because she stole it from the family.
	I don't know.
	It's a lie.
	It doesn't make sense.
	Gold is fungible.
	They have one gold bar for the other.
	Was it that one?
	Was it this one?
	I don't know.
	Actually, I think they're probably stamped, aren't they?
	Don't they have a number, the gold bars?
	They tend to be, yeah.
	They tend to be.
	But all of these politicians, I think the minute you get elected, you're in, it's like, hey!
	Hey, look at this picture!
	You're mine now, son!
	Yeah, and this guy's wife, it was Menendez's wife, she's the one that was getting all the favors done.
	He's like, yes, yes, honey, I know.
	And some other report is like, it was in a locked closet.
	I don't have the key to her closet.
	What kind of marriage do you have?
	Really?
	What a crock.
	That's not suspicious.
	I don't know.
	My wife's got a locked closet.
	She won't let me look in there.
	Had you ever tried to go in there when she's not at home and check it out and see what she's hiding?
	No?
	Um, so it was a horrible assassination attempt on the Slovakian Prime Minister.
	Yeah, I have a clip.
	Oh, you know, I have an update that came in this morning.
	Oh, play my clip in your update.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Where is your clip?
	Here we go.
	Here's your clip.
	Slovakia's populist Prime Minister Robert Fico is fighting for his life.
	He was severely wounded after being gunned down following a political event this afternoon.
	Here's more.
	The 59-year-old was hit in the stomach after four shots were fired.
	The shooting happened outside the House of Culture in the town of Handlava, where he was meeting with supporters.
	Police have a suspect in custody.
	The shooting in Slovakia comes three weeks ahead of crucial European Parliament elections in which populist and hard-right parties in the 27-nation bloc appear poised to make gains.
	FIATSO, a third-time premier, is staging a political comeback after campaigning on a pro-Russian and anti-American message.
	Critics are worried the country under Fico's leadership would abandon Slovakia's pro-Western course and follow the direction of Hungary under populist Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
	Thousands have repeatedly rallied in the capital and across Slovakia to protest Vico's policies.
	Condemnations of political violence quickly came from leaders across Europe, although no motive for the attack was immediately apparent.
	Yeah, okay, so first of all, shades of Pim Fortuyn.
	This is exactly what happened with Pim Fortuyn 22 years ago.
	He was about to go into elections.
	They have some, some grey beard go out and shoot him, kill him.
	Because, you know, he might upset the apple cart.
	And clearly the Slovakian PM is not in on the whole, you know, the whole European Union kumbaya thing.
	And, oh, oh, it was much more like Viktor Orban.
	Oh, no!
	And they, so they just, they just resulted in killing people.
	What?
	The straw man, Viktor Orban.
	Yeah, well they just, they're killing people now over, this is a political assassination attempt.
	Here's the update from this morning.
	Wednesday afternoon, this helicopter rushed Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico to the hospital, where he spent hours in intensive surgeries.
	Late in the night, one of Slovakia's Deputy Prime Ministers announced that the operations were successful and that FITA was no longer in a life-threatening situation.
	Meanwhile, another Deputy Prime Minister held a press conference denouncing the political nature of the attack.
	So this is the issue.
	What's happened?
	It's a political assault.
	Fico was shot in the abdomen as he greeted a crowd of supporters.
	Minutes later, footage showed police handcuffing a grey-haired suspect on the ground.
	Local media have identified the gunman as a 71-year-old writer and peace activist, an identification that has been confirmed by the Slovakian Interior Minister, but not officially released by police.
	Several of his political statements could be found on social media, in which he variously called out hatred and extremism, advocated for non-violence, and supported a pro-Russian paramilitary group.
	Prime Minister Fidzo won a third term in September after campaigning on a pro-Russian and anti-American platform.
	After his electoral victory, his government immediately halted arms deliveries to Ukraine.
	Oh no!
	Critics have worried that under Fiso, Slovakia would abandon the country's pro-Western course and follow the direction of Hungary under populist Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
	There you go.
	There you go!
	But you're not on board, and so now they're just killing each other.
	I can't see it any other way.
	So the peace activist, a peace-nic activist, a non-violent hater of violence, shoots somebody.
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	A little irony there?
	Oh, because we have to go kill people.
	Kill people, kill people.
	Alright, now let's talk about the real killing that's going on.
	The real killing.
	Because we're out of Ukrainian men.
	They're all dead.
	We need more.
	Ukraine urgently needs new soldiers and is increasing pressure on men to sign up.
	The government recently passed a new mobilization law, which from this weekend means that Ukrainian men will have two months to register for potential conscription.
	If they don't sign up, they'll be punished.
	You either get punished or you die.
	This is insane!
	They are... The Ukraine girls!
	They're getting... It's amazing what they're doing.
	Everyone's just like, oh, it's just Ukrainian men who gives a crap.
	I don't care.
	Rafa.
	It's going to completely alter the gene pool.
	Yes, and they already have cankles.
	Let's be honest.
	So, what do we do?
	Well, we're going to help.
	We're going to help.
	We're going to help.
	We're coming to your aid, dude.
	An update now the U.S.
	is giving Ukraine another massive round of support as Ukrainian forces battle against a new Russian military offensive.
	U.S.
	Secretary of State Antony Blinken announcing in Kiev today a $2 billion arms deal.
	Most of the money will come from a package approved last month.
	The funding will provide weapons in the short term, invest in Ukraine's defense industrial base as well, and allow Ukraine to buy military supplies from other countries.
	Ukrainian troops withdrew from some parts of their country while fighting Russian soldiers in other areas today.
	Ukraine's president has postponed all upcoming foreign trips.
	So it's the $2 billion of the $60 billion, which they did not get.
	No big Publishers Clearing House check to Ukraine.
	No, here's $2 billion.
	We're not sending you a check.
	You can spend it.
	Where would you like to spend it?
	It's like the supermarket sweep.
	Okay, you got $2 billion.
	You got 30 seconds.
	What do you want to buy?
	You want Atacams?
	No.
	No, you're not getting attackums, which is whatever.
	Remember that was, oh, we have to get them attackums.
	Well, that word just fell out of vogue.
	Because they're not going to give it to them.
	They don't, they're not sincere about this.
	If they used attackums, then they would attack, they would blow up Moscow.
	We can't have that.
	That would not prolong everything.
	So instead, send Blinken!
	Tonight, the Russians advancing from Ukraine's northeast border.
	A desperate race to evacuate thousands of Ukrainians on the outskirts of Kharkiv.
	She says they are shooting from everywhere.
	Yesterday there was a hit and the front of our house burned down.
	Ukraine forced to retreat in recent months, waiting for Congress to approve weapons.
	Now trying to hold the line in villages north of Kharkiv.
	Secretary of State Blinken arriving in Kiev today, even taking time to jump on stage with a local band.
	Playing rockin' in the free world.
	President Zelensky expressing gratitude, but saying his country still needs air defense against the Russian barrage.
	Specifically, Patriot missile batteries.
	Air defense, the biggest deficit for us, for Harakim region, because the people are under attack.
	Secretary Blinken saying the assistance is on its way.
	Some has already arrived.
	More of it will be arriving.
	And that's going to make a real difference.
	But the U.S.
	says it doesn't have enough Patriot missile launchers and is working with other countries to send theirs, while Russia is getting critical support from Iran, North Korea, and China.
	Putin is ramping up yet another offensive against Ukraine in Kharkiv and across the East.
	Sending wave after wave of Russian soldiers, Iranian drones, North Korean artillery, and tanks.
	And this week, President Putin, riding the wave of recent advances in Ukraine, will meet with President Xi in Beijing and will discuss the war.
	Okay, so they send Blinken over to say, don't worry, you can spend that two billion on some Patriot missiles from other European countries, that's fine.
	We're not going to give you a tackums.
	And Zelensky got the script, playing along nicely.
	And just to relieve some tension, I guess Blinken travels with his guitar because it's a custom, it's a left-handed guitar.
	Red.
	And I actually ISO'd him playing and singing and it's atrocious and embarrassing.
	Can I throw something in here?
	So this band is notorious for playing Living in the Free World and they made the announcement that hey we're gonna have a special guest.
	Celebrity special guest and was like Neil Young's coming!
	Bruce Springsteen!
	And everybody believed Neil Young was gonna come because of the song and so they packed the place and they And here's our special guest, Anthony Blinken, wearing... Yeah, here we go.
	I was just gonna say, when you're over 50, don't wear jeans, please.
	They're fighting, not just for Ukraine, but for the free world.
	And the free world is with you, too.
	So maybe we can try something?
	Hey, Blinkin', auto-tune.
	This is the height of embarrassment.
	This is very bad.
	Oh, solo!
	Rip it!
	Rip it, baby!
	He didn't even play the solo.
	This is an embarrassment.
	He should be fired for doing this.
	Fired.
	I mean, this is worse than Hillary Clinton dancing with her team, remember that?
	Oh my god.
	So, I did want to play this short ABC report about the intensifying attacks because it is nat-pop heaven!
	Tonight, the Russian onslaught in the northeast forcing Ukrainian troops to retreat and civilians to flee.
	You can hear gun battles raging as this police official in the border town of Vovoshansk describes the situation as extremely difficult.
	Ukraine is fighting back, but Russian forces are pressing ahead.
	Repeatedly shelling the country's second largest city, Kharkiv, just a few dozen miles away.
	Developments in the Northeast and along other parts of the 600-mile front so concerning to President Zelensky that he's postponed all upcoming foreign trips to monitor the fighting.
	It comes as Secretary Blinken announced another $2 billion in aid during his visit, most of it coming from the $60 billion already approved by Congress last month.
	We're rushing ammunition, armored vehicles, missiles, air defenses, rushing them to get to the front lines.
	And David President Zelensky may have had to cancel his upcoming foreign trip because of the seriousness of the situation in Kharkiv.
	But Vladimir Putin has tonight arrived in China, shoring up support for the war, which does seem increasingly to be going his way.
	I mean, can you make it any more clear?
	NatPOP, NatPOP, NatPOP, boom, two words, boom, another explosion.
	I don't have a link to the show notes, but I want to recommend something to people, which is a new development in these wars.
	They talk about Iranian drones and this and that.
	What's really going on now is that the Russians have retrofitted their supply of Half ton, one ton, 2,000 pound and 3,000 pound bombs that they've accumulated and there's an estimated, you can look this up on glide bombs and try to find the daily mail report.
	So they've modified these bombs and they take an SU-34 and they take it up to about 56,000 feet, which I think is the altitude to get to.
	40 miles away, before even crossing the Ukrainian border and launching these things, and they've got wings and a little GPS device on them, and they glide 40 miles, like, not propelled, they just glide, and then hit these targets, these targets accurately, supposedly.
	It's an amazing technology, and it turns out, if you listen to the reports, that the Russians, you know, you talk about, oh, the North Koreans and this, all these people supplying the Russians, they have one million of these bombs that they've had since the 60s.
	One million!
	Wow.
	They're gonna launch it, they'll put the wings on every one of them and off they go.
	They're like retrofitted.
	There just is a fascinating story about glide bombs, but look at it, I would recommend people... Yeah, I have it, it's in the show notes.
	It's dynamite.
	It is.
	But the thing is, they're not sincere about any of this, because the attackums have not... and remember, this was at the discretion of the President.
	They're approved, they're good to go, we can send them over, but no, you're not going to get them, because it's a farce.
	This war is a farce, and there's hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men dead because of it.
	Dead.
	And no outrage.
	No outrage.
	Zero.
	No one cares.
	There's also no video, no Nat Pops, no body parts thrown about, unlike in Gaza.
	Now I want to transition us carefully over to this story.
	By kind of a background or gauzy clip.
	Well can I transition us into it with a protest clip?
	Sure.
	Because this is... Before you play that, though, I want to say something.
	Yeah, say something.
	I have to say, whoever's really behind this Gaza thing, the protesters in the United States at every university, at every college, on bridges and toll plazas and every place in between, these people are extremely talented at organizing.
	I mean, I've never seen anything so well done in my entire life.
	And I've seen lots of protests, but this is unbelievably good.
	Yeah, it's well-organized, well-funded.
	And it's dynamite.
	There's a lot of hate about Israel.
	There's a lot of people who hate Israel.
	They hate the Zionists.
	Those damn Zionists.
	Yes.
	So the Sky News lady, you know the one, who's always making fun of stuff.
	So she made fun of Greta Thunberg at the Eurovision Song Contest.
	And it was just so good, she used several adjectives that I just wanted to play one minute of her rant about Greta.
	One lone performer representing Israel was mercilessly bullied by the crowd who booed her, by fellow contestants and even commie troll Greta Thunberg.
	We're here to show that we think it is outrageous and inexcusable for Eurovision to let Israel participate while committing a genocide.
	Yes, it's a song contest where Israel, a country that is currently committing a genocide in Gaza, are allowed to compete.
	Yeah, that is a very clear example that does say that when a country accepts in a way that, when a country behaves in a way that is unacceptable, then Eurovision excludes them.
	So why not Israel?
	She really is a miserable little doom goblin, isn't she?
	And how wonderful to see her... I just love commie troll and miserable little doom goblin.
	I like that.
	Doom goblin.
	I think you can pay her to show up.
	I think you can pay her.
	I think she's paid.
	You know, why wouldn't she be?
	As you point out, these protests are well-organized, they're well-funded.
	I think you can buy Greta Thunberg to come and protest for you.
	And in fact, I'd like to pay her, I'd like to make an offer, to protest the podcast industrial complex.
	To protest Spotify.
	I think we can get her.
	I think we can pay her.
	Anyway, it is clear that what Israel is doing is way beyond anything they should be doing.
	I think at this point, even this show has to agree it's gone a bit far.
	Well, since I don't believe any of the things anyone's telling us, I can't say that.
	We don't really even know.
	We don't know anything because they lie.
	All the information from both sides of this is a lie.
	Do you have an update?
	I just have an update.
	A Gaza update?
	Apparently, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu continues to push back against criticism Israel is not prepared for a post-war reality in Gaza.
	Netanyahu basically saying it's impossible to know what's next until the militant group Hamas is defeated.
	The U.S.
	has been increasingly critical of Israel, citing the large number of civilian casualties as it ramps up its fighting there.
	The Biden administration is moving ahead with a $1 billion arms package for Israel, even as the administration recently halted a planned shipment of 2,000-pound bombs.
	I have a clip that comes from, I think this is TRT, Turkish Radio and Television, that I have not heard any of this information in the United States, and it is the rather interesting amount of State Department and Defense Department people who are resigning their jobs over this.
	Have you heard anything about this?
	Yes, I have.
	Well, every so often it's mentioned in one of these back and forth interviews about these guys quitting.
	People are quitting the State Department left and right.
	Well, here we go.
	On Monday, U.S.
	Army Intelligence Officer Major Harrison Mann publicly resigned from the Defense Intelligence Agency by posting a letter on his LinkedIn profile.
	The policy that's never been far from my mind for the past Six months is the nearly unqualified support for the government of Israel, which has enabled and empowered the killing and starvation of tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians.
	A U.S.
	State Department report released Friday found that weapons provided by America to Israeli security forces since October 7th were used in violation of international humanitarian law.
	What we have seen at the same time is those armaments being used to kill, at this point, over 34,000 people in Gaza, of whom over 14,000 are children.
	In many cases, striking targets in which there was no identified military objective.
	We have seen rules of engagement on the part of Israel that seem contrary to, you know, international both military best practice as well as commonly accepted international law when it comes to the principles of proportionality and discrimination.
	Josh Paul, former director of U.S.
	State Department Bureau of Political and Military Affairs, became the highest level U.S.
	official to resign just one month after October 7th.
	He says the administration is avoiding implementing laws that would prevent military support to Israel.
	To come to a conclusion similarly, that international humanitarian law has been violated.
	There are both laws and policies in the U.S.
	that would restrict the flow of arms.
	So it is clear, I think, that the administration is doing this in order to continue the flow of arms despite the specific restrictions that have been placed on shipments of, for example, 2,000 pound bombs.
	And that is why it has not come to any legally binding conclusions.
	Since Paul's resignation, many more U.S.
	officials from various government offices have resigned in protest to the administration's pro-Israel policies.
	I had not heard any of that.
	I'm glad you did.
	I was like, I didn't know that.
	I know people were resigning left and right.
	Is this, uh, is this now like, is this one billion dollars?
	Is this, uh... I don't think, by the way, I don't think they're all resigning because of this.
	What do you think they're resigning over?
	The Turkish news makes a side, because they're on one side of the argument.
	That's why I play it.
	Of course.
	Yeah, I don't believe that's true.
	It sounds, because this has been going on for a while, they're just fed up with the system at the State Department.
	They don't like blinking.
	There's a lot of reasons to quit.
	And the one that was exemplified on that particular clip was a guy with the DEI, which is not State Department.
	Here's what I don't understand.
	Not DEI, but Department of Defense Intelligence.
	So we know that the numbers come, you know, the news has been reporting the numbers from the Hamas agency.
	So we have no idea how correct that is.
	But I think the, and it's intentional, but I wonder why they're doing it.
	Why do they keep saying it's a genocide?
	Because a genocide implies that you just want to wipe all the people out.
	I don't think there's any evidence of that.
	They may be wiping them out, but there has to be intent behind genocide.
	And it feels like you're creating a friction point of interpretation that has nothing to do with dead people.
	You know what I mean?
	Why do the protesters harp on that?
	Why does it all have to be genocide?
	Which of course is polarizing because of the Jewish Holocaust genocide, which some would say supposedly, in World War II.
	It's like a brain fry, you know what I mean?
	It doesn't make any sense to attack with that as your main point.
	Am I overthinking this?
	I'm not going to say you're overthinking it, but I'm kind of surprised you're stunned and shocked by the misuse of the terms to make a political point.
	Yeah, but it's a political point.
	I don't know.
	It seems to be working.
	Look at the turnout for... It's dependable.
	Well, it is debatable.
	But it sure definitely seems to me that you got a lot of people in the street.
	Oh, tons of people!
	And it's so bad that, uh, let me see... We gotta go after poor Jerry Seinfeld!
	A moment to celebrate achievement becoming another chance to protest the war in Gaza.
	After a turbulent spring, multiple universities facing disruption at graduation, including Duke.
	Dozens of students walked out on Jerry Seinfeld's commencement address Sunday.
	The comedian was later cheered.
	I say Use your privilege.
	I grew up a Jewish boy from New York.
	That is a privilege if you want to be a comedian.
	Now explain that to me.
	Is being a Jewish boy in New York privilege for being a comedian?
	Yes, because Jewish comics in the comedy community are always seen as naturally superior because they're brought up in a culture of telling gags and jokes.
	So it gives you an advantage because you can deliver material when you're little and write till you're older.
	I mean, if you've ever known anyone who has a Jewish person who's at the dinner table that Is one of these New Yorkers that likes to tell me, do jokes, do material, they'll just go take it to the fantastic.
	Now I want to mention something about this walkout.
	There were 20, I think it was 2,500, it was like 2,500 or more people, or no, 20,000, I think it was 20,000 people at this big commencement to hear Seinfeld and 40 walked out and that became news.
	It's just bullcrap news.
	So they started to Applaud him later.
	I stopped the report.
	But yeah, it is.
	I mean, he has a movie to promote, which I tried to watch and was kind of tedious.
	It's supposed to be mediocre.
	Yeah, it was okay.
	A lot of famous people in it, which made it kind of funny.
	But then there was this whole kind of like January 11th thing for 20 minutes that bugged me.
	You know, it's like, you know, free the Pop-Tart or whatever.
	Well, thanks.
	I won't watch it.
	You don't, don't want to watch it.
	I got one more.
	No, actually, let's move on because we have the big news of the day we haven't even discussed, but it comes on the heels of this news.
	After years of warning China, President Biden put his pen where his mouth is today, quadrupling the tariff on Chinese EVs from 25% to 100%.
	I'm determined that the future of electric vehicles will be made in America by union workers.
	Period.
	The move comes as EVs from Chinese automaker BYD gain traction around the world at about half the price of US-made cars.
	One thing that my grandfather used to always tell me are good things aren't cheap and cheap things aren't good.
	Dorian Jimenez owns a Chevy dealership in Oklahoma City.
	I'm glad that our government is going that direction, and the more things that we can keep in-house, the greater it can be for us.
	Biden's hikes apply to far more than EVs.
	Chinese steel and aluminum will be hit with a 25% tariff.
	Solar panel cells will go to 50%.
	And so will Chinese syringes and needles.
	Biden finally listened to me.
	He listens to me.
	Former President Donald Trump hiked tariffs on a much broader swath of Chinese goods in 2018.
	At the time, Biden argued that would spark a trade war, raising costs for everyone.
	We're going after the wrong thing with China.
	So, what is this about?
	Well, this is another Hail Mary this administration's trying to pull.
	Well, we know we can't do that because of the Mexican, you know, the free trade agreement.
	Yeah, they don't know what to do.
	I know the car's down there, but taxing EVs from China 100% or whatever he's supposed to do.
	What electric cars from China?
	Have you ever seen an electric car from China in this country?
	No.
	There's not one in here.
	What are you taxing?
	Nothing.
	No, but the tax on steel and aluminum.
	Yeah, but that's just a minus 25%.
	It's not the same as 100%.
	But this is Trump policy.
	100%!
	This is all Trump policy.
	Everyone knows it.
	By the way, I heard an analysis that his tariffs really didn't do anything.
	That didn't have a lot of effect, actually.
	It just raised prices on stuff.
	When you said this is the unspoken news, I thought you were going to talk about the clip I have, which was the Biden-Trump debate.
	No, I said it's a precursor to the... Here in Washoe County, Nevada, home to Reno, Republican Tracy Hilton... I'm sorry, that's the wrong clip.
	That's the wrong clip.
	No, I'm sure you have the clip.
	Where's the clip?
	The Trump-Biden debate clip.
	Where is it?
	Biden's under Biden.
	Yes.
	Oh, you have NTD.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	After some quick back and forth, Biden and Trump have now both agreed to two debates.
	The first one by CNN happening in just six weeks on June 27th.
	Another one by ABC on September 10th.
	Biden on Wednesday afternoon said he's looking forward to these debates while denying that he's doing one so early in June because he's worried about his polling.
	But Trump's now asking for four debates in total, including one by Fox on October 2nd, saying Americans need to hear more about inflation, the border and chaos in the world.
	Biden's campaign meanwhile slamming the door for more debates, accusing Trump of playing games and insisting that Biden only wants two one-on-one debates.
	Here's Biden in a video on Wednesday morning.
	Watch.
	Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020.
	Since then, he hasn't shown up for debates.
	Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again.
	Well, make my day, pal.
	I'll even do it twice.
	And the formats of these debates are still being debated and could surprise many.
	Trump says he wants large venues to make it more exciting, while Biden's campaign wants no live audience, saying noisy spectacles aren't helpful.
	The June CNN debate, for example, won't have an audience and will also be the earliest televised presidential debate on record.
	It also marks the first time that candidates break away from the bipartisan group that has run these debates for decades.
	It's also the first time the debates are set before either candidate becomes the official party nominee.
	All the surprises come as Biden and Trump are already exchanging fire, though not yet on stage.
	Alright, so before we discuss this, I want to play two clips.
	One, because I'm disappointed NTD left off the so-called kicker joke.
	Of Biden's ad, here it is.
	Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020.
	And since then he hasn't shown up for debates.
	Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again.
	Well, make my day, pal.
	I'll even do it twice.
	So let's pick the dates, Donald.
	I hear you're free on Wednesdays.
	So the free on Wednesdays?
	Is that like, that's when there's prison visitation?
	Is that the joke?
	No, no, no.
	Wednesday on the New York case is the day that the court takes off.
	Okay, now I want to play the NBC report about this so-called agreement to debate and then we shall discuss.
	Tonight the stage is set for the first TV confrontation between President Biden and former President Trump in more than three years.
	The agreement punctuating a dizzying day of deal-making.
	The President posting this video responding to weeks of pressure from Mr. Trump for a debate.
	Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020.
	Since then he hasn't shown up for debates.
	Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again.
	Well, make my day, pal.
	The president taunting his rival over his Manhattan hush money trial that's kept him in court four days a week.
	So let's pick the dates, Donald.
	I hear you're free on Wednesdays.
	There are traditionally three debates the president offering two.
	Mr. Trump, who refused all of the primary debates, quickly saying yes and pushing for more, writing, I'm ready and willing to debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times.
	I would strongly recommend more than two debates.
	And for excitement purposes, a very large venue.
	Just tell me when I'll be there.
	Within hours, a pair of debate dates were set, one in late June, another in September.
	Both sides bypassing the Commission on Presidential Debate's proposal for three fall showdowns.
	President Biden's decision comes after former President Trump repeatedly challenged him to debate.
	We have an empty podium right here to my right.
	You know what that is?
	That's for Joe Biden.
	I'm trying to get him to debate.
	In an already unprecedented campaign, the first crucial clash, now the earliest in modern history.
	So this does prove, obviously, that politics is show business for ugly people.
	Your thoughts on this, John?
	Well, first of all, it's something that no one, none of these analysts have picked up on, is the real reason Joe wants no audience Because the Democrats, this is a Democrat-centered thing, it's going to be CNN, it's going to be two people.
	Two people, both of them have called Trump Hitler, both of them.
	Tapper and Dana Bash.
	And so the reason he has to have no audience, because they could have loaded up with a bunch of pro-Biden people and it would be fine, is you can't hear the earwig.
	You can't hear the IFB.
	Exactly!
	Exactly!
	He's gonna have a piece deep in his ear.
	It's gonna be one of those canal items.
	Joe!
	Joe!
	He's going to probably be talking to it, but you can't hear it if you're in a giant crowd and they're all clapping and hooting and hollering.
	You won't be able to pick up the cues.
	Joe is going to be talked to through the whole thing and he's going to be repeating what the things, whoever's talking to him.
	This is a scam!
	Yes, and of course it's an entertainment gambit to get some money for Disney and for CNN.
	By the way, it's kind of a joke to say we don't want an audience on CNN because they don't have an audience.
	So that's not very hard.
	It's just, I mean, what is their... Do they think they can do something here?
	I understand they want the microphones muted while the other person is talking.
	What kind of debate is this?
	It's not a debate.
	I don't know.
	Well, it'll be, like you said, it's entertainment.
	It'll be bonanza ratings.
	It'll be fantastic.
	Well, for CNN, they always have, they get a big number.
	So what?
	They can't sell into it.
	It's not part of their, you know, they can't use that as a package sale or anything.
	This is just a big bump in their numbers for one day.
	And all the other networks are demanding that CNN, because ABC's already agreed to this, that they allow the other people to carry the feed.
	And CNN, no, no, no, you have to no, no, no, we don't want to do that because they want to get their numbers super high.
	That makes sense.
	Most media people think that they're going to be hounded into sharing the feed because it's just a national thing.
	It should share the feed so it'll show up maybe on all the networks and then CNN won't get that bump.
	I think it was a good move, though.
	I think for the Biden camp, I think they made a move, and it was a bold one, because they know their guy is retarded.
	I do.
	But it was a bold move and I think it put Trump on his hind leg there for a second.
	I think he has to figure out... And they're going to jack him up with whatever they give him for this State of the Union speech.
	It works!
	So he'll be good for about an hour.
	Now you don't think that there's something here that there could be a quick switcheroo, a gambit afoot, you know, something that we swap it out, in comes Gavin Newsom?
	The thinking again goes the following, in the following way.
	They want to do this debate early enough, like in June, to prevent like a switcheroo during the convention or anything, because Biden will be established.
	Now he's the, you know, no matter what you think.
	No, they're not going to switch.
	Oh, so it's a defensive move against a strife inside the Democrat camp.
	That's what one analysis would have.
	Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
	So you put him up there.
	He's already, now he's, you know, you can't switch him out now.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	So that makes sense.
	No matter what happens, they can't swap him out.
	Okay.
	Well, it'll be great.
	You know what's great about it?
	It's on a Wednesday.
	It's good for the show!
	We love that!
	I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda!
	We want to thank some people who came in $50 or above as producers of episode 1660 and we got some title changes and some nightings and a whopper of a meet-up list.
	Very excited about that.
	So John, why don't you take us through these donations?
	Yeah, we're going to start with John Kihana in Parkville, Maryland with $150.
	And then we have Gary Cox in Queensland, Australia with $126.61.
	If you want to run that through a calculator, that may bump up to $200.
	I'm not sure.
	I don't think it quite makes it.
	Wow, it's really raining here.
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	Good old Roswell, $100.
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	The only one today for boobs.
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	And now we're at the fifties and this is just $50 donors name and location.
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	No, we have one more.
	We have one more.
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	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yes.
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	Sarah Martin in Lanark, Ontario, Canada.
	She's got a birthday.
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	Best sister in the universe.
	That's beautiful.
	Thank you all very much for supporting us.
	And again, thank you to those people who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity.
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	Everybody deserves a karma today.
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	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, my champion.
	Yeah, we got some birthdays.
	Hold on a second, let me get the list here.
	We have Eric who wishes Lauren Patawoda a happy birthday, celebrated yesterday.
	Drone Dork Will wishes his keeper Melissa a happy one, it's her birthday today, and he himself is celebrating tomorrow.
	Isn't that coincidental?
	Brennan Lawton turns 30 on the 18th.
	Eric Mackey, hello Eric Mackey, celebrating on May 18th.
	Alan Fiston Wishes his beautiful daughter Isabella a happy birthday for June 6th.
	So that's coming up I guess.
	And his smoking hot and smart wife Joanie will be celebrated yesterday.
	So it's a bladed happy birthday.
	And Sarah Martin wishes her sister Amy a happy birthday as we just heard.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the Baz Podcast in the universe.
	We have title.
	Let me see.
	We have Kieran Hennessey.
	That's right.
	Becomes the Baron of Donnybrook, as requested.
	And we thank you for supporting us with the multiple amounts necessary.
	And you're now a Baron, so we really appreciate that.
	Thank you so much.
	We have a layaway night we want to celebrate today with a nighting, and this comes from Justin Heiner.
	He's from Vine Grove, Kentucky.
	He's been a listener since my first appearance on Joe Rogan Experience.
	Joe Rogan, no nation!
	I am fresh off the night layaway program that my smoking hot rocket wife Natalie put me on as an anniversary gift a couple of years ago.
	He says, best gift ever!
	Quick shout out to my five sons and future knights, Gavin, Garrett, Grayson, Landon, and Jack.
	Those are good names.
	Those are strong men names.
	I like that.
	Adam, watching your journey to faith in Jesus has been awesome.
	John, you are like a fine wine.
	You just get better with age.
	How tired of you of hearing that one?
	It's pretty bad.
	This truly is the best pod in the universe.
	So to all who agree, raise a glass to hoping these two never find an exit strategy.
	Too late.
	Podcasters in Residence is on deck.
	I would like to be knighted Sir Justin, Protector of the Grove, Roundtable, New York Strip, Truffle Fries, and a Diet Coke.
	And I think a de-douching is in order.
	Oh, okay.
	You've been de-douched.
	She says, thanks guys.
	Bye!
	Okay, you were ready for him.
	I got a sword if you're set with the sword.
	Do you have your sword?
	Your fine wine sword?
	Oh, sorry, here it is.
	Gotcha, gotcha.
	All right, Justin Heiner, hop on up here, and John of Jupiter, both of you today become knights of the Noah-Jenner Round Table.
	I am very proud to pronounce the K.V.
	as Sir Justin, Protector of the Grove, and Sir John of Jupiter, Lover of the Loxahatchee and Emissary to the Perpetual Pioneers.
	For you gentlemen, we have Hookers and Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay.
	But at request, we have Street Meat and Everglades Heat, New York Strip, Truffle Fries and a Diet Coke, and of course, the usual fare of bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts.
	We got your ginger ale and gerbils, we got your breast milk and pablum, your sparkling... Oh, we got the bong hits and bourbon?
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	Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Wow, okay.
	We have quite the list here.
	Today, we've got Charlotte Thursday's Thirsty Third Thursday monthly meet-up.
	7 o'clock in Charlotte, North Carolina at Ed's Tavern.
	On Saturday, ITM Richmond.
	That'll be at noon.
	And that is at Triple Crossing in Fulton.
	That's a change of venue, so take note.
	The Fort Wayne Cinco de Mayo Club 33 at 1 o'clock at Mitchell's in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	The NA Local 512 BBQ Casa De Morgan, Barron Scott, 1 o'clock.
	See the website, Noah Jenna Meetups, for more details.
	NoahJennaMeetups.com.
	The Shrunken Amygdala Support Group meets at 2 o'clock at the Taft's Brewporium in Cincinnati, Ohio.
	The Connecticut Meetup, 2 o'clock on Saturday at the Truck Bar in Higginham, Connecticut.
	We have Red 33, Red 33, Boston John Reed Spring 2024 Meetup at 2.30, Castle Island Brewery in Northwood, Massachusetts.
	Insane Diego Monthly Meetup on Saturday at 3.30 at the Roundtable Pizza Rancho Bernardo, and that's in San Diego.
	The Central Ohio Meetup at 5 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.
	On Sunday, our next show day, the IndyNA Tribal Tell Your Mother Revised Meetup, 3 o'clock at the Dugout Bar.
	Great place, we've been there.
	Tina and I went to visit Indianapolis, Indiana.
	The Knowedge in the Southwest, New Hampshire, 3.33 at the Local Burger in Keene, New Hampshire.
	And the Charleston Semi-Regular Meetup, 4 o'clock at the Royal American in Charleston, South Carolina.
	We have many more coming up this month.
	Athens, Greece on May 22nd.
	I hope you guys send in the report.
	And of course, the Amsterdam-The Netherlands Meetup on June 15th.
	It's going to be very exciting indeed.
	And, you know, Tantaniel will show up with a scrapbook.
	I'm so excited.
	Those are your No Agenda Meetups.
	Go to noagendameetups.com to see all of them.
	See all of them listed.
	If you can't find one near you, start one.
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	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want to be.
	Yeah.
	It's like a party Yeah.
	Yay, yay!
	Like a party, like a party.
	I only have one ISO.
	I don't think it's very good, actually.
	Shall I roll it out for you?
	It's my one ISO.
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	100%.
	No, not again.
	That's all I got.
	Hopefully you have something better.
	I have two that I think are better.
	But let's start with absolutely true.
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	Yeah, okay.
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	You knew that was gonna win.
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	Time for some good news as we wind up our broadcast day.
	John, what do we have today?
	It's about a 102 year old woman's birthday and she is a hard-working volunteer and she just keeps on trucking.
	You know who you sound like?
	Who was that guy on the Today Show?
	The weather guy?
	He used to do... We've got a shout-out to the 100... What was his name?
	There's a big fat guy.
	Yeah, the dead guy.
	He's dead now.
	What was his name?
	Alright.
	Now, St.
	Mary's celebrated one of their longtime volunteers yesterday.
	Shirley Schultz just turned 102.
	Our Jessica Livingstone was at the celebration where the birthday girl danced the party away and shared a little advice.
	Shirley Scholls, a three-time cancer survivor, has been volunteering for St.
	Mary's for more than two decades.
	She sorts papers and does what she calls the grant work because she says it's what keeps her going.
	You give of yourself and community gives back to you.
	So it works two ways.
	To me, volunteering is really very important.
	Shirley's life is a whirlwind, with heirlooms for hospice on Monday, St.
	Mary's on Wednesday, and lunch with her friends on Friday.
	But, Scholz confides, she could be busier, in case you're looking for a volunteer.
	So Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, I'm booked.
	But I'm open for Tuesday and Thursday, if anybody's aware.
	If there's anyone hoping to make it as far as she has, she shares this life advice.
	But you have to like yourself so you can like others and help others.
	You have to want to do that.
	Shirley's spice for life never stops.
	For her, it's all been a grand intoxicating adventure.
	My single malt scotch and my wine tasting and my traveling all over the world drives my family crazy.
	I was in Africa celebrating my 95th birthday on a camping trip.
	So giving and loving, her door is always open to new and old friends.
	5-5-30, the news and the wine I have.
	Any kind of snacks you want, so come on over.
	Happy birthday Shirley!
	Wow.
	And here's to many, many more.
	That was a good one.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	I like the drinkin' old granny.
	That's fantastic.
	Single malt scotch and wine.
	Willard Scott was the name we were looking for.
	Willard Scott.
	I love that chick.
	That's great.
	I mean, I'm going to be the vaping granny.
	I'm going to be the vaping grandpa.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	Give me a single malt scotch.
	I'm going to vape in your face.
	Good news, everybody.
	We love the good news segments.
	Very controversial.
	Very controversial.
	Very controversial segment.
	Amongst the grouches out there.
	Very controversial segment, let me tell you.
	Yeah, I hear good news.
	I hate good news.
	Hey, we got some more facts coming up next if you want to know about the beef between Kendrick Lamar and the other guy.
	Yeah, what's his name?
	Yeah, that guy.
	Kendrick Lamar.
	Oh yeah, the Canadian.
	Drake.
	Yeah, the Canadian.
	Yeah.
	Drake. Drake. Drake.
	And its implications on black America.
	It's all coming up next on noagendastream.com, trollroom.io, and in your modern podcast apps.
	End of show mixes.
	I think we've got some good ones.
	Hog of short fuse.
	Professor Jay Jones always wraps up the previous show.
	And we've got some Leo Lapute classic.
	Good stuff.
	Coming to you from Fredericksburg, Texas.
	The heart of the Texas Hill Country.
	FEMA Region No.
	6.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm from northern Silicon Valley.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday.
	Please join us.
	Looking forward to it.
	In the meantime, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	Knowageinthedonations.com.
	Until then, adios, mofoza, hooey, hooey, and such.
	I got no agenda when it comes to these tracks.
	Rapid rails, no conspiracy theory, I'm spitting facts.
	Let them do the research, back here with some C-SPAN.
	Expose the memes, won't you?
	Bow to your kings, as they bless you with knighthood.
	TSA is grabbing ball sacks from the back to make your flight good.
	It's for security, they say, just a small price to pay.
	Get your civil liberties taken away.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid cuz they don't like what I say.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid cuz they don't like what I say.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	You think I'm paranoid?
	They think I'm paranoid cuz they don't like what I say.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	You think I'm paranoid?
	They think I'm paranoid cuz they don't like what I say.
	Like what I say!
	In the morning to the resources and shifts that cease.
	In the morning to Adam Curry and my man John C. Our formula is simple.
	We hit em in the mouth.
	And I hit em in the mouth.
	So listen to what I'm talking about.
	Don't let your free country go.
	Because you wanna give it up too fast and react it too slow.
	Spending all our money in the land where the poppies grow.
	Bring it back, add some hair on there, you know?
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid, cause they don't like what I say.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	They think I'm paranoid, cause they don't like what I say.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	You think I'm paranoid?
	They think I'm paranoid, cause they don't like what I say.
	They think I'm paranoid.
	You think I'm paranoid?
	Time to celebrate because a bird flew.
	Very fishy.
	11 years of colder weather.
	We need the No Agenda Fear Scale.
	What?
	Just in time for Pride Month.
	Do you have a scarf?
	There are new fears in this country about the potential impact of the HIV virus.
	H5N1 bird flu on humans.
	It's a money-making scheme.
	This has to be rejected.
	It's fake.
	H5N1 is mutating into a form that can spread from human to human.
	A lot of people getting worried.
	I saw nothing.
	The virus has now spread among dairy cattle across nine different states.
	This is bullcrap.
	This is a hoax.
	We gotta have queers now.
	Uh, if they have bird flu, do they drop dead?
	It's only a matter of time.
	Hospitalizations for COVID are at an all-time low, but nothing got blown up.
	How worried should we be right now?
	Get off my lawn!
	Telephone poles are on fire.
	The risk to you right now is very low.
	But breaking!
	Typhoid Mary.
	All the herd.
	Non-binary, no-binary, no-no-nary.
	And coronavirus injections.
	What is going on?
	Where is it?
	How widely is it spread?
	They're phonies.
	They're all phonies.
	We've been duped.
	The alarm bell should really start going off.
	Rare, severe, geomagnetic storm warning.
	They actually played their song instead of that piece of crap they played.
	The winner was Joe Biden.
	It is scary, and it does sound scary.
	The blue-haired people are all upset with me?
	Die, you slaves, die!
	Petrochemicals and sawdust is now food.
	Increase in cancer mortality after third COVID dose.
	I love it.
	Dead viral fragments in milk.
	Europe is lost.
	Figure out what the dominant strain's gonna be.
	Satan on the way, I think?
	We're going away, this is not gonna end well for you.
	No, that's the winning song.
	A lot of protesting, telling the kid, you're a boy!
	I'm good to go.
	It is scary, and it does sound scary.
	Even the smallpox vaccine, of course, started smallpox, uh, epidemics.
	Duh.
	Superstar not on the list.
	I want to introduce the biggest fans of Ukraine, Anthony Blinken.
	The denizens of a bar in Kiev.
	Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, he went to a bar and jammed with the local Ukrainian rock band.
	He was wearing jeans and a black shirt because he's so cool.
	For a war-torn country that is facing genocidal demolition, it'd be cool that he can jam and party with a bunch of people who are drinking and having a good time.
	They will be funded forever.
	And it was obviously for the cameras.
	This was all planned and all staged.
	Who was this for, exactly?
	It does not send a message of desperation on the part of Ukraine.
	Secretary of State Blinken jamming in a bar in Kiev while you're forced to cough up tens of billions of dollars that we don't have for the war.
	There are too many failed theater kids, actors, and musicians in politics.
	The actual band.
	They were told someone famous was going to come and play with them.
	They were told it was Bill Young.

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