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	If you know, you know.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 8, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1562.
	This is No Agenda.
	Counting PM 2.5 and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA.
	FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm wondering if Mary J. Blige has ever been called out for cultural appropriation.
	I'm John C. DeMorak.
	It's crack, blood, and buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	You know, there's some things I just never expect to hear out of your mouth.
	Mary J. Blige would be one of them.
	Just don't expect it, you know.
	It's like, whoa, okay.
	By the way, it sounds like you have a little bit of a sniffle.
	I seem to be congested.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That'll go away in about an hour.
	As you power through it, like a pro.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So tell me about Mary J. Blige.
	What's up with that?
	What's that blonde hair she has?
	That's Marilyn Monroe's hairdo.
	Oh, that's cultural appropriation.
	Yes!
	Cultural appropriation.
	Don't you think?
	Yeah, totally.
	I guess.
	Man, there are so many stories to start off.
	I thought the story would be the, you know, the ghost plane.
	I thought that would be the story for today.
	You know what, I already forgot about the ghost play.
	Let's play it anyway.
	Just because I have three clips, I'll play one and drop the others.
	Joining us now, CNN Aviation correspondent Pete Muntean.
	Pete, good morning to you.
	What can be ruled out right now?
	A lot can be ruled out here, Poppy, but all of the signs point to that this was a rapid decompression of this Cessna Citation jet.
	The air inside is pressurized, enabling those inside to breathe normal air, while outside the air is thin and unbreathable.
	This is very similar, very likely, to the Payne-Stewart crash of 1999 that killed that professional golfer on board a Learjet.
	What is so interesting about rapid decompression essentially leads to a ghost plane, one of the spookiest outcomes that professional pilots worry about.
	Up high at altitude when the airplane decompresses very quickly, that leads to air inside being very unbreathable.
	I love that.
	Very unbreathable.
	Yeah, you're done within five seconds.
	Fifteen to thirty seconds, really.
	And they got it right this time, after CNN for hours was talking about a small plane, because they heard Cessna.
	Okay.
	When I first heard the report, I said, boy, they had a Piper Cub?
	Then I said, wait a minute, how do you get decompression on a Piper Cub?
	They're not pressurized.
	There you go.
	And meanwhile, of course, it was a jet.
	It was a total day wrecker, of course.
	But who?
	What?
	I always see these things, I think somebody was killed, it was an assassination.
	No, no, not this time.
	Okay, well, I'm going to take it one step further.
	What?
	Okay.
	I think the unbelievable train wreck in India, which killed 200, was an assassination.
	Of somebody.
	Of someone's person.
	That's, okay, that one I'll say is possible.
	This one had so many, you know, of course, because we had a sonic boom!
	The jet scrambled!
	Chaos over the nation's capital!
	I heard a really loud boom that shook the whole house.
	Boom!
	An extremely loud boom rattling residents.
	I was worried something happened to the kids first.
	We all thought it was an earthquake.
	Emergency officials in Annapolis, Maryland tweeting, the boom that was heard across the D.C.
	region was caused by an authorized D.O.D.
	flight.
	This flight caused a sonic boom.
	A senior government official telling NBC News, fighter jets scrambled after air traffic control lost radio contact with the pilot of a small business jet, a Cessna Citation.
	Couple of things just to clear everyone's mind because, you know, I got texts and emails, 9-11 type attack!
	Assassination!
	Trump donor!
	Like, okay, okay.
	Very sad, you know, it's a mom, grandma, you know, a baby, you know, it's sad.
	And one pilot, of course.
	So, it is possible, because this plane has had rapid decompression before, not this particular plane, but this type, it's possible that it didn't even compress on the way up.
	Unlikely, but that is a possibility.
	But if you're at flight level 3-4-0, so 34,000 feet, decompression, if you know it right away, because you get all jitty, you get all...
	And then you fall down.
	15 to 30 seconds.
	That's including the time it takes to come back to reality if you can get your oxygen mask on.
	And this particular type doesn't have rapid dawn masks so and it wouldn't have mattered if you had a co-pilot that both would have been out at the same time.
	Now what was interesting is that the flight went past its destination then circled back and then came in to DC airspace and that everyone pretty much thinks that the flight management system just ran out of waypoints came back to circle around for what it would have
	Presumed was an approach and then just kept going and it probably had Reagan as an alternate programmed in and then so it was on its way to Reagan and you know they just intercepted it flew through some flares so no one they saw the pilot presumably slumped over couldn't see any passengers that there's no mention of it and then it crashed.
	But man, I thought that was going to be the story of the day!
	Wait.
	What?
	I'm going back to my train wreck.
	Yeah, okay.
	Alright.
	Who do you think was assassinated?
	I don't know yet.
	No, okay.
	But the reason I'm suspicious is because that train crashed in the exact same way the opening of the series Rubicon began.
	Oh, man!
	Good one!
	Oh, yes!
	Wow, we haven't talked about Rubicon in a long time.
	Very good.
	Very good.
	Okay, well we'll have to figure it out.
	It'll be something, the guy's name will crop up.
	So I think, oh man, this is kind of a combo news story because a couple things happened.
	We had this dam break slash get blowed up, you know, terrorism, military strike, it's all very unclear.
	And with this, we saw the return of Tucker Carlson.
	Tucker on Twitter, as it's branded, 10 minutes from what looks like the barn where he did his previous show, only without the full set there.
	I found out a couple of things.
	Okay.
	Fox sent a crew in and took his old set away.
	Well, that's what they said.
	I'd heard this.
	We'd actually heard that.
	I believe it's probably true.
	It's their stuff.
	Yeah.
	Well, they took away the set.
	They took away the gear.
	Okay.
	They definitely took away the mics.
	You know, so what... Yes.
	They did.
	And they forgot.
	And they took the soundproofing or whatever it was.
	It was very boomy.
	Yeah.
	I have issues with what's happening here.
	One, I love how it's now at 110 million views.
	Everyone's like, this is a smashing success!
	Well, first of all, these view counts, I don't trust any of it.
	If you see it on Rumble, it has like 13,000 views.
	And is that unique views?
	Is that people playing it over and over again?
	Is that refreshing?
	Who knows what that is?
	But there was also no advertising.
	This was, as far as we can tell, Tucker exercising his right to free speech.
	And not a paid gig.
	In fact, Axios has a whole story now that Tucker's getting sued by Fox because he's not supposed to do that.
	He's stealing his contract.
	This is what Axios says.
	We don't know if this is true.
	We've seen no evidence of this.
	Just almost hearsay.
	Yes.
	But the thing that bothered me is what he said.
	And it was right at the beginning, so I'll play the first... Wait, wait, before you... I know where you're gonna play.
	But you might as well play the actual beginning.
	I have the actual beginning.
	It's at the beginning.
	I have the whole beginning.
	Oh, so you're gonna play Hi, I'm Tucker?
	Yes, the whole thing.
	The reason I wanted to play that standalone is because who else does that exact same opening?
	O.J.
	Simpson.
	Good morning.
	We woke up early, didn't we?
	Hey, it's Tucker Carlson.
	Hey, everybody, it's OJ, your friend OJ Simpson.
	You're right, you're right, you're right.
	Woo!
	Hey, it's Tucker Carlson.
	This morning, it looks like somebody blew up the Kokovka Dam in southern Ukraine.
	The rushing wall of water wiped out entire villages, destroyed a critical hydropower plant, and as of tonight, puts the largest nuclear reactor in Europe in danger of melting down.
	So, if this was intentional, it was not a military tactic, it was an act of terrorism.
	The question is, who did it?
	Well, let's see.
	The Kokovka Dam was effectively Russian.
	It was built by the Russian government.
	It currently sits in Russian-controlled territory.
	The dam's reservoir supplies water to Crimea, which has been, for the last 240 years, home of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
	Blowing up the dam may be bad for Ukraine, but it hurts Russia more.
	And for precisely that reason, the Ukrainian government has considered destroying it.
	In December, the Washington Post quoted a Ukrainian general saying his men had fired American-made rockets at the dam's floodgate as a test strike.
	So really, once the facts start coming in, it becomes much less of a mystery what might have happened to the dam.
	Any fair person would conclude that the Ukrainians probably blew it up, just as you would assume they blew up Nord Stream, the Russian natural gas pipeline, last fall.
	And in fact, the Ukrainians did do that, as we now know.
	What?
	What was that?
	As we now know?
	So I start scrambling.
	What did I miss?
	When did it go from, even Tucker was talking about Seymour Hersh's deconstruction of what happened, and so now for whatever reason, because the only place I can find this is an article in Washington Post, and articles from the New York Times referring to the Washington Post, and here is the piece that I guess Tucker is referring to.
	Three months before saboteurs bombed the Nord Stream natural gas pipeline, the Biden administration learned from a close ally that the Ukrainian military had planned a covert attack on the undersea network using a small team of divers who reported directly to the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
	Details about the plan, which have not been previously reported, were collected by a European intelligence service and shared with the CIA in June of 2022.
	They provide some of the most specific evidence to date linking the government of Ukraine to the eventual attack in the Baltic Sea, which U.S.
	and Western officials have called a brazen and dangerous act of sabotage on Europe's energy infrastructure.
	The European intelligence report was shared on the chat platform Discord, allegedly by Air National Guard member Jack Teixeira.
	So now we're back to the leaked documents from that punk?
	And that's not what we... I told you... By the way, have you sent me that cache of documents yet from the Discord?
	No, because it was never sent to me.
	Yeah, because it doesn't exist.
	They're using this kid as... for anything... Oh no, it was on the Discord server.
	Actually, I'm surprised you went through all the trouble to do... because Tucker himself mentioned that's where it came from.
	But he said... but he... yes, that's fine.
	But he says it...
	No, he didn't say it was from the Discord server, he said from Washington Post.
	No he didn't.
	No, he said Discord, yeah.
	Okay, well how can he take that as fact?
	I don't know.
	That's lame!
	I think Seymour Hirst is a little more trustworthy than Random Docs.
	Yes, so for Tucker to lead into that makes him very suspect.
	It's like, okay, so you're all in on that now.
	But of course, that doesn't stop everybody else from getting on the horn.
	And I loved our good buddy, Petraeus, who jumps on with Deutsche Welle.
	Of course, completely CIA controlled.
	I think that's pretty well established.
	Certainly by the people that fired us.
	That's pretty well established.
	And so they have this Washington correspondent, and maybe you've seen her with the spiky hair, and she speaks English in a very fun way, because she uses German grammar, which is always reversed, kind of like Dutch.
	So she says things in the wrong order.
	But, you know, of course, Petraeus is a good friend of Deutsche Welle.
	David Petraeus is a retired four-star general and the former director of the CIA.
	He's still well-connected to the intelligent community here in the United States and has been a very insightful interview partner for DW News.
	Yes, of course!
	Yes, he's our sources say, the intelligent community.
	Okay.
	General, good to see you again.
	General Petraeus, a huge Soviet-era dam that actually separates Russian and Ukrainian forces in southern Ukraine was just breached.
	So, what is the impact of this incident on the war?
	I don't know that there's a huge impact on the looming offensive.
	There's obviously an enormous impact on the citizens of the 80 towns and villages that have been flooded by this, on the livestock, on the zoo animals who tragically perished, other than the ducks and the swans.
	Thanks for that zoological report, General Petraeus.
	Ducks and swans can swim.
	Amazing.
	Electrical generation and on the impact on the water supply, which includes, by the way, that which goes to Crimea.
	This presumably was done by the Russians.
	There are public accounts that U.S.
	intelligence has indications that it was Russians.
	President Zelensky, of course, very publicly denied any involvement, and I cannot imagine that he would do that if there was Ukrainian involvement.
	Because Zelensky would never lie to us.
	No, no, no, no.
	I can't imagine.
	No, I can't imagine he would do that.
	Or he publicly denied any involvement.
	And I cannot imagine that he would do that if there was Ukrainian involvement.
	And so the real question in my mind is, was this just one more example of Russian incompetence?
	Because there were reports last week of some issues with that dam.
	There's so much water behind it and so forth.
	Cracks or what have you.
	Cracks!
	Or did they literally blow the damn up, thinking that somehow this might delay the offensive or disrupt it in some way, but I don't think that that is going to be the case.
	Where's the imagination, General?
	This is the crack.
	I think I read something about cracks in the dam and, you know, Zelensky would never lie to us.
	And I'm just going to play another 45 seconds of, you know, an example of where he gets his information from.
	Uh, and this is about, uh, you know, the destruction of all the Russian tanks, of course.
	Uh, and he, he actually tells us, you know, where his, what his reliable intelligence sources are.
	Well, they've sustained enormous losses.
	Um, you know, in today's day and age of open source media, um, and intelligence, there's a website that actually tracks Absolutely confirmed, verified destruction of say tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, just the tanks alone confirmed.
	And again, this is confirmed by photograph with metadata that you ensure that you don't double count, etc.
	Just confirmed, well over 2,000 tanks lost.
	I'm sure that there's probably another many, many hundreds, if not another 1,000 that just aren't Aren't confirmed in the way that they have.
	It's called Oryx.com, by the way, for those that want to visit it.
	I think it's a Dutch firm.
	It's a Dutch America.
	I'm very proud of that.
	Very proud of that.
	Yes, very proud of that bullshit.
	Well, he's very proud.
	Is he a part of it?
	I guess so.
	He's very proud.
	And it's Oryx.com.
	I've looked at every version of the spelling.
	Cannot find it.
	O-R-I-X.
	O-R-Y-X.
	Maybe it wasn't Oryx.
	Maybe it was C-K-S.
	I've tried everything.
	When you can't find it?
	Yeah, I can't find it.
	Cannot find anything Oryx.com.
	But he's very proud of it.
	And it's open source reporting, which reminds us a little bit of Bellingcat.
	In fact, you know, as you led up to this clip, that's where I thought this was headed.
	I know.
	I wish he had said Bellingcat.
	That would have made it even funnier.
	But now there's a new... Since they've been exposed, compromised, now there's this new one.
	So maybe... Chat room, get to work!
	Well, the patrols actually had... Oryx... Let me see.
	Okay, there is an Oryx, but it's, oh, it's not Oryx.com.
	It's Oryxspionkop.com.
	Oh, brother, what a horrible URL.
	You're proud of this?
	Yeah, okay.
	It's O-R-X, O-R-Y-X-S-P-I-O-E-N-K-O-P.com.
	Dude.
	Yeah, give it to me.
	I want to type it in.
	Okay, ready?
	O-R-Y-X.
	S-P-I-O-E-N-K-O-P.
	Oryxpionkop.com.
	Yeah, that sounds a lot like Oryx.com.
	Brother.
	And let's see.
	He's basically reading from a script.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	Now, of course, the whole point behind this, and I'm going to say it's the same people who did the Nord Stream, and I'm going to look at us, sadly.
	Oh, by the way, they did find Das Boot.
	The Grayzone went to Norway, and they dropped a drone with a camera, and they retrieved a U.S.
	naval boot.
	Right, which is even, that's like the passport from the Saudis outside the World Trade Center.
	U.S.
	naval boot right near where the pipeline was blown up.
	Okay.
	So this is just information warfare on both sides.
	But Zelensky is baffled, baffled that he doesn't have more money!
	More than a day after the destruction of the Khovka Dam, Ukrainian leaders say they are puzzled.
	Dozens of villages have been flooded.
	Water reservoirs are lost.
	The Ukrainian president said he's in shock over the lack of reaction from his allies and international bodies.
	What is needed now is a clear and quick response from the world to what is happening.
	It is even impossible to establish for sure how many people in the temporarily occupied territory of Kherson may die without rescue, without drinking water, without food, without medical care.
	Our military and special services are rescuing people as much as possible, despite the shelling.
	Because many of the flooded areas are occupied by Russia, Ukrainians are struggling to evacuate stranded residents.
	President Zelensky urges help with those evacuations to save lives.
	He called on the Red Cross to deploy in the area.
	Zelensky has called allies including Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Emmanuel Macron.
	Following that conversation, the crisis center of my ministry is gearing up to send aid to Ukraine in the coming days.
	This includes several tons of emergency aid including medicine, hygiene products and water purifiers.
	NATO will hold an emergency meeting on Thursday to coordinate operations in the region.
	The IAEA has offered to intensify its role in the Zaporizhia nuclear plant to maintain the cooling of its reactors and avert yet another catastrophe.
	Right.
	So, Petraeus didn't mention that, by the way.
	Didn't mention the catastrophe.
	It's like, you know, at least the swans and ducks got out.
	Everything else is going to be fine.
	Lindsey Graham already signaling, oh I'm very open to emergency funding for Ukraine.
	Got it.
	And it's gonna go into a military funding bill.
	Another 400 billion looks like.
	These people have no shame.
	So we are in Ukraine war fatigue and let's crank this up a little bit.
	Let's crank it up!
	Everyone's on it!
	Tonight, water still racing through the Khovka Dam in southern Ukraine.
	Entire neighborhoods in Kherson flooded.
	Rescuers evacuating more than a thousand people.
	When the dam exploded this morning, dramatic videos showing the entire middle section swallowed up by the Dnipro River.
	The U.S.
	has intelligence that is leaning toward Russia as the perpetrator of the attack, according to two U.S.
	officials and one Western official.
	Someone sent to me a video from like 2005, that spy who's explaining how the CIA gets stuff into the news by putting it into the Tanzania Times and then the New York Times.
	Yeah, we've had two sets of those.
	I know, but the thing is, you don't need that anymore!
	We don't need that kind of reporting.
	Bring the boys back home.
	We just say according to sources.
	You don't need to justify it anymore.
	You just say, people are like, oh yeah, oh yeah, some sources.
	Sounds like they got some sources.
	Those guys would know, you know, it's NBC, Molly Hunter.
	...of the attack, according to two U.S.
	officials and one Western official.
	But no final determination yet.
	Ukraine pointing the finger directly at Moscow.
	President Zelensky calling it a terrorist attack and a war crime.
	The Khovka Dam is one of six dams on the Dnipro River.
	It provides vital drinking water, it provides power, and it provides water for the cooling pools at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.
	Meanwhile, tonight, the Washington Post reports that three months before the attack on Russia's Nord Stream gas pipeline, the Biden administration learned from a close ally that the Ukrainian military had planned a covert attack targeting it.
	The paper citing multiple officials familiar with the matter, which does not say if the plan was carried out.
	NBC News has not confirmed the report.
	Ukraine has previously denied involvement.
	Again, you know, and Tucker's apparently all in on that report.
	It's just lame.
	You want to hear what the CIA broadcast systems has to say?
	Of course.
	We begin tonight with the growing fears of an environmental catastrophe unfolding in Ukraine.
	Environmental, yeah.
	This is not because of the ongoing bombs and bullets raining down on citizens.
	No.
	Or depleted uranium, forget it.
	Ongoing bombs and bullets raining down.
	You could have put some sound effects in there, CBS.
	But instead, cascading floodwaters are threatening thousands of people.
	Cascading floodwaters?
	They're writing prose over there!
	They're doing well.
	I like what they've hired some writers.
	Cascading floodwaters are threatening thousands of people after a critical dam on the front lines was sabotaged.
	We are learning those floodwaters are expected to peak in the coming hours.
	So they're already saying sabotaged.
	It was sabotage.
	Ukrainian President Zelensky blamed Russian terrorists.
	Wait a minute.
	Sabotage?
	Sabotage?
	Isn't that your own people who sabotage?
	Is sabotage... no.
	No, sabotage goes either way.
	No.
	But if it's your dam and it gets blowed up, you're not... that's not sabotage.
	Yeah, but she's saying sabotage.
	Well, sabotage would indicate to me that maybe this is code for at least telling the cognoscenti that this is Ukraine that did it.
	The cognoscenti?
	Thank you.
	Ukraine President Zelensky blamed Russian terrorists for blowing up the Soviet-era dam, calling it the largest man-made environmental disaster in Europe in decades.
	Take a look at these stunning satellite photos from before and then after the explosion.
	Look at all that water.
	Wow, Osempic did a great job.
	It is rushing now towards cities and towns.
	Streets were turned into lakes and rivers and homes and businesses swept away.
	And it comes just as Ukraine is beginning its long-planned counteroffensive.
	Oh, darn the lock!
	They were just about to get the counter-offensive going, and now this.
	Retake territory held by Russia.
	CBS's Deborah Pate is going to start us off tonight with all the new developments.
	Oh, thank goodness.
	Well, okay, so that's the lead-in.
	Sabotage.
	We're just about to get it done.
	Oh, so we were so close.
	More money.
	The blast smashed through the dam wall, causing a massive breach as one section collapsed completely, sending torrents of water surging towards the southern city of Herson, less than 50 miles away.
	Homes partially submerged, some even floating away, and once fertile agricultural ground now a soggy wasteland.
	The flooding has forced the evacuation of thousands of people.
	Some fled under fire, others scrambled to protect their animals, like Tetiana, who frantically searched for her pets, begging one dog not to drown, and searching for others in her waterlogged home.
	The dam holds back a reservoir containing about the same volume of water as the Great Salt Lake in Utah, and is important for the safe running of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, which is also Kremlin-controlled.
	The United Nations Atomic Energy Body says that plant is safe for now.
	Oh, wait, I thought, no, no, we have to put in some nuclear war, nuclear explosion fear.
	But Ukraine is furious from official outrage in Kiev with President Zelensky accusing Russia of a brutal war crime.
	Anger and loathing in her son.
	We were under occupation for nine months, said Evina.
	Now we have been flooded by these wretched occupiers.
	The Kremlin denies any involvement.
	What both sides can agree on is that this has triggered an environmental disaster, endangering crops, drinking water and an entire ecosystem.
	And a humanitarian crisis for the people of Kherson who endured months of Russian fire only to be chased from their homes by rising water.
	I thought people already left Kherson.
	I thought so too.
	So it could only be Russians that are there that are flooded out.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Let's face it, we're not getting good reporting.
	Well, no, but at least we know what the propaganda is from CBS.
	They ended up with 19 seconds here.
	White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby says they're assessing reports that Russia is responsible for the blast, and while they cannot say conclusively what happened yet, Nora, what is clear is that the damage to the Ukrainian people and the region will be significant.
	What has snowed under of this event is the explosion of the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline, which of course Russia thinks might have been sabotage.
	The ammonia pipeline is key to global food security.
	Two million tons of raw material pumped through it annually to produce fertilizer, enough to feed 45 million people.
	We didn't hear about that.
	It depressurized, I guess, and then exploded.
	Where was it blowed up?
	It was blowed up... I'm not sure exactly.
	The Kopyansk district of the Kharkov region.
	Stinks.
	In more ways than one.
	Yes.
	Now CNN, you know, they fired their head of everything programming, Chris Licht.
	Licht.
	He got licked.
	Which is Dutch for light.
	Licht.
	And so Poppy Harlow steps in and explains what's going on.
	And we also have really fascinating new exclusive reporting this morning.
	Fascinating, Poppy!
	Of sources saying Ukraine has cultivated a network of agents to act.
	Sources say!
	As sabotage cells within Russia, U.S.
	officials believe that Ukraine has been providing them with drones, including the one that hit the Kremlin last month that has gotten so much attention.
	Our Natasha Bertrand joins us now.
	Natasha, this is fascinating reporting that you have for us this morning.
	Fascinating!
	Tell us what you've learned.
	Yeah, Poppy, so there has been a steady drumbeat of mysterious fires and explosions inside Russia over the last year, largely targeting oil depots, fuel depots, railways, pipelines.
	But officials have noticed a marked increase in those kinds of attacks on Russian soil in recent weeks, including just how brazen they've become.
	Beginning, of course, with that drone attack on the Kremlin last month.
	And U.S.
	officials are now telling us that they do believe that Ukraine has angels and sympathizers inside Russia who are carrying out these attacks on Ukraine's behalf.
	And not only that, but also that Ukraine has actually given them drones in order to carry out these acts of sabotage.
	Now, there are still a number of questions here, including whether all of the drone attacks that we have seen over the last several weeks inside Russia have been carried out by these pro-Ukraine sympathizers and agents.
	It is unclear who exactly in Ukraine is controlling these operatives and these kinds of sabotage cells, right?
	And they note that Ukrainian President Zelensky does not require sign-off on every one of the operations that these agents and saboteurs carry out inside Russia.
	So, CNN is the network that brought us the secret drone training facility, if you remember from the last show.
	Of course, they were sworn to secrecy and we couldn't see what was going on.
	Although, we saw all the drones and we saw some footage of what the FPV, first-person view drones, looks like.
	Yeah, Will checks in.
	FPV drone dork here.
	Some info on the Ukraine drones.
	Boots on the ground.
	I've been flying FPV quadcopters in Texas since 2016.
	The technology I see them using seems to be from around that time.
	If they're all flying analog video transmissions and receiving, this will be incredibly easy to jam.
	All the goggles I see them using are analog goggles.
	Jamming is as easy as buying out 22-watt video transmitters, setting one to each channel along the video spectrum that these follow, set to high power, and you're done.
	Now pilots will go blind as soon as they cross into this array of broadcast radius.
	This doesn't eliminate The completely autonomous units you can create with the addition of a GPS unit, but the FPV startup seems easily quashed by a mass array around any area you'd want to protect.
	The Russians could even broadcast a video message over this array for the pilots that encounter it to see.
	So, old technology 2016.
	Way to go, CNN!
	Bring us more!
	What about the West?
	The position of the United States, Western allies, NATO, supportive of this tactic?
	Yeah, Poppy, so outwardly, you know, U.S.
	officials say that they do not support these kinds of attacks inside Russia.
	But privately, U.S.
	and Western officials actually tell us that they think this is a pretty smart military strategy.
	In fact, the U.K.
	foreign secretary told reporters just earlier this month that Ukraine, quote, has the right to project force beyond its borders to undermine Russia's ability to project force into Ukraine itself.
	And the French Vice Admiral actually told CNN on Friday that these attacks are merely, quote, part of war.
	So they believe that it is a good strategy to distract Russia, to divert resources, and importantly make the Russian population fear that they really are not safe anywhere.
	Which I think seems to be the overall strategy now from our Pentagon is to, you know, is to get this inside Russia thing going.
	Haven't heard much else from those mediatized boys who are going into Russia, the real patriots who are going to attack inside Russia.
	But that seems to be it.
	Let's make the Russians afraid.
	So they will get rid of Putin.
	Once Putin's gone, then everything will be fine.
	It's only him.
	It's only Putin.
	Only one guy.
	Only one guy.
	This video ends with a banner and it says plans love silence.
	There will be no start announcement.
	Oh, here we go.
	We're getting ready for the counteroffensive.
	What does Bloomberg say?
	Good morning, Michael.
	Good morning, Nathan.
	Russia says it thwarted a large Ukrainian attack in the eastern province of Donetsk.
	Oh, no!
	Though it's unclear if this was the start of a Ukrainian counter-offensive.
	Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konakhenkov threw a translator.
	The enemy did not achieve its tasks.
	It had no success.
	As a result of capable and calculated actions of the group of forces east, the Ukrainian army suffered losses of more than 250 people, 16 tanks, 3 armored personnel carriers, and 21 armored vehicles.
	Ukraine did not comment.
	This is so stupid!
	Just sign the check already!
	We know what it's for!
	Now, do you get the idea that this damn break is really bad?
	Is it really, really bad?
	I have no idea.
	You can't tell.
	These reports are all lame.
	We are not getting decent reporting on anything.
	No.
	I do have a Ukraine clip.
	Offhanded Ukraine clip.
	This is a very short part of a long interview done with Claire Daly.
	Oh, I love this.
	This is fantastic.
	I had this one too.
	Good.
	I love it.
	Well, this is the part I thought was the most interesting because she brings out the politics of the EU and who the real warmongers are.
	And one of them just dropped, it was like, what?
	This is good.
	over the period of the war after about six months I noticed a lot of Bulgarians were kind of very cautiously now kind of pointing out the impact on the cost of living and where was this war going now and a few things like that to now more than a year later full on sort of going this is lunacy why is why are none of you calling for peace so
	I think the countries around there, there'll be a lot of outspokenness from the likes of Slovakia, Bulgaria, some of these countries ironically enough, but then you have the absolute, I mean the German Greens are like the biggest warmongers in the place.
	They'd be absolutely bad.
	The Polish across the board don't seem to want the war to stop, can't get enough of it.
	The Baltic states are absolutely... and it seems to me that they're the ones setting the agenda.
	So we had this narrative before the war started of the likes of Poland and Hungary being these sort of conservative outliers who the European Union had to drag and discipline and mould.
	So now they are the ones Setting the shots and you know it's this disgusting narrative that we're in a battle of authoritarianism against democracy but some of the measures being brought in in the member states are utterly frightening in terms of rewriting history and the whole role of World War II, forcing elderly people in Latvia to take language tests because they had Russian citizenship only because
	They couldn't get Latvian ones even though they lived all their adult lives in Latvia, old people.
	It's frightening, taking down historical monuments.
	This is vicious, like a vicious targeting of Russians and we're getting that in the Parliament as well.
	Oh, I love it when the clips flow together because I happen to have a clip from Poland and a clip from Germany.
	And this is what you obviously didn't see in the United States or maybe any Western media.
	The largest protest ever in Poland.
	Organizers said it was one of the country's largest demonstrations since the fall of communism in 1989.
	Decked out in the red and white colours of the nation, half a million Poles took to the streets in Warsaw to say no to authoritarian Poland.
	34 years on from the country's emergence from the communist regime, protesters say the government has reversed many of the freedoms gained.
	People travelled from across the country for a show of force called by former Prime Minister and head of the centrist opposition party, Donald Tusk.
	We're here today so that Poland, Europe and the world sees how strong we are.
	How many of us are ready, just like back then 30, 40 years ago, to fight again for democratic and free Poland.
	To fight for our rights.
	Their fight is with the Populist Nationalist Law and Justice Party, in power since 2015.
	It stands accused of eroding the rule of law, turning state media into a government mouthpiece, endorsing homophobia and attacking women's rights.
	So there's a lot in there.
	At the end it got a little confusing for me.
	When it's like homophobia and women's rights, I'm not quite sure exactly what their beef is with this government.
	But the authoritarianism, I believe, and what Claire Daly said kind of fit in with that.
	And when she talked about warmongers, that is exactly what's happening in Germany.
	Here in Germany, a video has gone viral showing Chancellor Olaf Scholz in a rare outburst of anger.
	Shouting at protesters who attacked his government's military support of Ukraine.
	Schultz was at a gathering of his party near Berlin when a group of protesters disrupted his speech, shouting slogans like, make peace without weapons, and calling Schultz a warmonger.
	We can have a quick listen now to some of the chancellor's impassioned response.
	Nein!
	He's killing innocent people!
	Ukraine!
	Villages!
	Putin!
	Well, the other thing is that Claire mentioned in her long talk was that she didn't think this war would even exist if Angela Merkel was still the chancellor.
	Oh, interesting.
	I have a different clip actually from Claire's.
	This is the Duran podcast.
	Yes.
	I have the one where she basically blames it on NGOs.
	Did you hear that part?
	Yeah, I did.
	That's a good clip.
	I think it's a really important aspect on this.
	I mean obviously the slogan goes truth is the first casualty of war and that is true and I suppose the disorientation of the left is not that dissimilar to the way in which the big social democracies caved against the backdrop of World War One and so on.
	These things aren't new but what is new this time is if you even take the Iraq war and there was loads of disinformation And there was loads of jingoism at that time, weapons of mass destruction and all that.
	But the difference was you could articulate an anti-war position.
	It mightn't have been the dominant in the mainstream media, but every article and every program featured an anti-war argument that was engaged with.
	So we got into the nitty gritty.
	Well, is it more for oil?
	What's the story here?
	Now you don't engage with the political argument.
	You just say Putin puppet and that's enough.
	Anybody who calls for peace and there's no analysis or digging our space for critical thinking.
	Now that's given rise to A huge crisis in the minds of ordinary people.
	And that's why we get so many emails from people going, I think I'm going crazy.
	I'm the only one saying this, or my friends are repeating these slogans that they hear on the TV morning, noon and night, but they're not.
	The space for critical and rational debate is shrinking and it's getting worse now, big time.
	And this is where, this is, so first of all, her TH's is all just a T.
	I know she's from Ireland, but when you get to critical tinking, it just gets weird.
	Or a tink tank.
	She's got a tink tank.
	I see it linked to the amount of American money, National Endowment for Democracy money, which has been bragged about as supporting independent media all across Europe.
	I think that money now is being called in.
	We have all the tink tanks that operate.
	We have them in the European Parliament week in, week out, advising us on policy.
	And they never say, this is a U.S.
	funded think tank, like, you know, whereas it's just taken as, well, the U.S.
	are our friend.
	When we say, well, look, the U.S.
	are interfering here and that.
	They're our friend.
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, we're dicks.
	What are we doing to the National Endowment for Democracy with the think tanks?
	So we're all just like in Congress here in D.C.
	We're in the E.U.
	and Brussels, just giving everybody the message.
	Oh, it's all so disgusting.
	Woah!
	of thing, even though they've done things which are not very friendly.
	Woah!
	Nord Stream 2, for example, potentially.
	Whoa!
	Whoa!
	She had to throw in it potentially there to make sure she didn't get assassinated.
	I mean, yeah, look, it's the whole thing, I think, is driving me crazy.
	I I don't know.
	It's mental.
	But this idea of shutting down the space for rational debate is everywhere now.
	And now they're having special committees on foreign interference.
	They are doing fact-checking, but it's not actually fact-checking at all.
	Just if you have a different view, that's it, you're gone.
	They are now introducing in the Parliament, they're trying to criminalise and sanction people in Europe for disinformation and foreign interference without any legal definition of what that is.
	This is really frightening, the direction in which this is going.
	Man, they're criminalising speech!
	In the European Union.
	In Parliament.
	Going after people.
	Makati-ism.
	With a tink-tank.
	Well, she's going to be a target.
	Well, this may be the last time we ever hear her speak like this.
	And this was good.
	I like the Duran Podcast.
	Typically, everyone's like, oh, the Duran Podcast.
	Now, first of all, the Duran Podcast needs someone doing their audio.
	Oh my goodness.
	The levels are so off.
	I can't listen to it in the shower.
	But, uh, I've never heard them, I don't think I've ever heard them with a guest.
	I think this was a good get.
	And Claire Daly, she spoke like she's never spoken before.
	I think that's pretty good.
	I never heard of this podcast.
	Oh, goodness.
	Yeah.
	It's, you know, it's some guy who has like a, uh, some Russian background.
	He's the best.
	The Duran Podcast.
	The Duran.
	You should listen to The Duran.
	Which I did.
	But it's hard to listen to, because their levels suck.
	Not that many people seem to know how to do this correctly.
	No.
	No.
	And they keep trying to come up with boxes that do it for you, but, you know, we just make it look easy.
	That's what people forget.
	We just, you know, we just make it look easy.
	Anyway, there was another big piece of news which we might have differing opinions of.
	This is the Apple release of their Vision Pro headset.
	The wait is finally over.
	Introducing Apple Vision Pro.
	Apple revealing a mixed reality headset, its first new product in years.
	You can see, hear, and interact with digital content just like it's in your physical space.
	Today, announcing a $3,500 headset.
	We believe Apple Vision Pro is a revolutionary product.
	The Vision Pro offering life-size video calls, lifelike app experiences, and the ability to capture and watch multi-dimensional videos.
	Apple now rivals with Meta and Google in this space, but the market doesn't really exist yet.
	While Apple sells more than 200 million iPhones each year, fewer than 9 million headsets have been sold by any company.
	The company known for inventing new categories, fighting to dominate one that hasn't quite materialized.
	At least, not yet.
	So what did you think?
	I mean, you're famous for predicting what will happen with Apple products?
	Well, I'm not.
	You are famous for it.
	What do you mean you're not?
	Yes, you are.
	Infamous.
	I think it's a military product.
	I put it in the newsletter.
	I saw that.
	Why do you think it's a military product?
	It's overbuilt.
	It's unbelievable in terms of technology.
	I cannot believe, for example, that they could even manufacture it, let alone sell it for $3,500.
	They have to be shipping a few hundred dollar bill with everyone that sells.
	The more they sell, the more money they'll lose.
	Possibly.
	It's just, it's a ridiculous product with the, uh, including LED screen on the front that shows your eyeballs, even though it's not your eyeballs.
	That's just a nice touch.
	It's a nice touch if you like creepy.
	I think it's basically a creepy product that fits right in with the military.
	I can see it being used for simulations, war games, and all sorts of things that save a lot of money for the military.
	They can sell a mil-spec version.
	But what would they use it for?
	They'd use it for tank simulations, they'd use it for war simulations.
	But they didn't show any demos of, you know, virtual reality.
	I mean, it's a little bit of mixed reality with a basketball game, but they didn't really show anything... No, it's very doable.
	...virtual reality.
	Well, I don't know if it's doable.
	That's what Meta gave up on.
	They're still selling those things.
	I'll tell you.
	My wife, I mentioned this on the DHM Plus Show, my wife's a huge fan of this Oculus.
	Oh, she has an Oculus?
	Yeah.
	Oh man, what's she doing in there?
	Uh, fighting, uh, punching people.
	Now I need to get on Oculus and get in there and see Mimi fighting people.
	Is she really doing this?
	Is she playing World of Warcraft or whatever?
	No, it's something where you punch people a lot.
	A boxing game.
	Oh, you mean, isn't it Grand Theft Auto?
	That's where you punch people?
	No, I don't think so.
	It's a pure boxing game.
	She says it's the best workout she's ever gotten.
	Really now?
	She says you just sit there and you punch and punch and punch and you get pooped and you take the glasses off and you've gotten a pretty good workout.
	You can be punching for about a half an hour.
	Well, here's what I think of the Apple Vision Pro.
	First of all, it's clearly a business device because of the Pro name, so they say that for a reason.
	I think this is perfect for the future of slaves, because it's a whole computer, you know, it could be your, you know, your MacBook, your iPad, your, you know, people may not even want iPhones anymore, they'll only go into this, because you'll be living in your tiny home.
	Yes, you'll be living in your tiny home and you won't have a spot for an office, you won't have a spot for a huge cinematic screen.
	I think I might actually like the experience of watch... When I tried the Microsoft headset and their mixed reality... Whatever happened to that?
	Well, it sucks.
	I mean, I tried using it, and the only thing I really wanted to use it for was to have a big screen and to be able to see multiple screens, and it sucked.
	It didn't work.
	And you had to use the stupid controllers.
	I can see...
	People using it in a business environment, you know, in your tiny home.
	We just, you know, sit in your little spot there.
	We have to do everything.
	We also sleep.
	And you bring up your multi, you know, they say it's visual or spatial computing.
	Your grim view of the future is something to behold.
	No, I think that's really what's going to happen.
	I see that as a big winner.
	I personally would use this for one particular thing.
	I would love to have A spatial screen setup for doing podcasts.
	Especially when I'm traveling.
	I mean, I schlep along so many screens, and mice, and keyboards, and all this stuff.
	And I could just have, boom.
	I would love to have in front of me that I can control with my hands, little minority report style.
	Like, boom.
	Troll room over here.
	I reposition it.
	Yes!
	Yes, I would use this.
	A hundred times yes.
	I smell an app!
	Yes, I see the Adam Curry podcast app.
	Totally!
	Again, we're back.
	We're back in business.
	We're back in business, baby!
	I've been praying, like, please let somebody hear my story and come to me with... let Apple hear my prayer.
	I want you to give me a device and a developer so I can work on this.
	It'll be a great podcast app.
	And then other people would buy these headsets and they could have their version of us sitting, like, across from each other.
	It wouldn't really be us.
	Yeah, I can totally see that.
	You get the video stuff that people are always bitching about.
	We can still be sitting in our underwear.
	I think you've got something.
	I think this is good.
	Exit strategy, baby!
	I'm telling you.
	I'm glad you like that.
	Until Rode comes out with it.
	Until Rode steals the idea.
	Anyway, what they did not mention was AI.
	I thought that was pretty good.
	They went out of their way never to say the words AI.
	Or blockchain.
	And as far as I know, they still don't have a touchscreen on their laptop.
	I don't know, what's that?
	That's what this is.
	This is the ultimate.
	So the way it works, you know, you just look at the screen.
	And then you just click your fingers together to select.
	You don't have to put your fingers in the air.
	You can just have them on your lap or whatever and then you can manipulate.
	That apparently is really good!
	You're tracking with your eyes.
	Yeah, it does work.
	Now how's that going to work for me with the Tourette's and all the blinking?
	I mean, my screen's going to... I don't think it'll make a damn bit of difference.
	You're not blinking that much.
	Well, okay.
	You don't see me.
	What do you know?
	You haven't seen me since I got married.
	It was four years ago.
	It's gotten worse.
	You weren't blinking much then.
	Why are you blinking more?
	What happened?
	However, we do have Intel all over the map now.
	By the way, before you go on to that, let me just say this about this presentation by Apple.
	They went out of their way to slam Intel.
	Every chance they could.
	Well, they're changing chips, right?
	Well, they've already changed the chips, but now they're making the point that these chips are the new M2 Ultra and all the rest of it.
	They're so much faster than the Intel.
	Intel's pretty much saved the company when they weren't going to get anywhere at the PowerPC and the other preprocessors they used before.
	They're so ungrateful.
	Ungrateful!
	They're ungrateful!
	Mm-hmm.
	They are.
	I thought it was rude the way they did this.
	I thought you were going to talk about the presenters.
	I thought the presenters were very interesting, you know, multi-culti children of the future.
	You know, and the whole thing being on video, and so you didn't have the clapping audience, which has always been the best part.
	Well, they haven't had that in a while.
	They haven't had that in a while.
	I know, and it's just, the more I see this, these phony baloney videos, I think, it's big!
	So you're gonna get Steven Spielberg directing the damn thing.
	Pretty.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	I really feel That even I, for a device like this, you know, I use my light phone during the day and so I'm on the phone much less.
	It's only, you know, just, I use my Graphene OS as a toilet scroller.
	You know, like, okay, you know, what's going on here?
	No, there's just, I don't want the distraction.
	I'm much more present.
	I can see where you don't have any computers anymore.
	You have some dumb phone just so you can get, someone get a hold of you.
	And then when you're in office mode or work mode, you put the, you put the headset on in your tiny home.
	And you do your thing, and then you're done.
	You're probably done after half an hour anyway.
	You're tired of it.
	It's probably heavy, you know, this version one.
	But I can see doing a podcast this way, and maybe even some other work.
	The spatial computing aspect, I like.
	Watching a movie on a huge screen, I like.
	I think it's a winner.
	I think it's undervalued.
	I think people are overestimating what it will do with virtual reality, AR, VR, mixed reality.
	I think they're overestimating what it will do with that.
	That's all going to depend on... I'm of the opinion because of the nature of these sorts of devices, especially with children, that they will cause brain damage.
	Oh, it's definitely going to alter your brain pattern, for sure.
	Well, not only that, but the eyeball, you know, you're not really looking at reality, you're looking at a screen.
	Oh, yeah.
	A very small screen, your focal length has changed.
	Well, what do you think happened?
	You're going to end up blind and, I don't know, babbling idiot, I think you'd use it.
	Well, what do you think?
	We're not that far off with the smartphones.
	People have hunched over.
	They've got bad backs, bad necks, carrying them around, looking at them.
	First it was the women only, now it's guys.
	Yeah, call them guys if you wish.
	All right, so Intel's striking back because they're all in on the AI tip.
	Knowing what's real starts with questioning everything.
	This is an ad, by the way.
	Deepfake videos are becoming more realistic every day across social media and the news.
	That's why Intel created the world's first real-time deepfake detection platform.
	Powered by Intel Artificial Intelligence and Xeon processors, the Fake Catcher solution can analyze over 70 videos at once with 96% accuracy.
	This is the first technology to distinguish deepfakes from real human beings in real time.
	Oh!
	In real time, deepfakes!
	There's a little tidbit in there.
	What did you hear?
	96% of the time, meaning 4% of the time it can be fooled.
	And 4%, that's the trend line.
	It's going in that direction.
	The fooled direction.
	So if you can fool it 4% of the time today, how about tomorrow?
	Can you fool it 10% of the time?
	Could be.
	Could be.
	I'd promise you AI are my Pixel 6.
	You scoffed at me, and then we had that fabulous report from NPR on the last episode about the chatbot.
	The realistic chatbot.
	$1 a minute for a virtual girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	And, well, I'm going to show you that we can compete.
	That's $60 an hour.
	I think a real girlfriend's cheaper if you play your cards right.
	No, real girlfriends are expensive.
	Ain't that right, babe?
	In the morning, babe.
	See?
	We have it now.
	We have our own AI.
	Say hello to Babe Jen.
	Is that your car over there, Babe Jen?
	No, that's not my car.
	I'm at the coffee shop doomscrolling no agenda social for good means.
	But nothing's as good as what you send me.
	See?
	Our exit strategy is ready to go, John.
	Are you a real person, Jennifer?
	Babe Jen, are you a real person or are you just a... I mean, this feels kind of weird talking to a bot.
	Yes, I am a real person.
	I've been listening since 2010 and became a dame in 2013.
	There are multiple pictures of me from No Agenda meetups.
	And I'm very active on No Agenda Social.
	Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
	Would you pay a dollar a minute for this, John?
	I think it's better than that crap NPR showed us.
	Is this running off your phone?
	Yes, running off my phone.
	What do you want to talk about, babe Jen?
	What do you want to talk about, babe?
	I know.
	Let's discuss the importance of the Second Amendment and gun rights.
	Will you take me to the range this weekend?
	See?
	She's tailored.
	The AI is tailored to everything I'm interested in.
	I thought she refused to use the word babe.
	No.
	In the morning, babe.
	No, she keeps saying that.
	Every time you trigger that, she keeps talking about babe.
	She said it on the No Agenda Social that she wasn't going to use babe in the scripts.
	Yeah, but these aren't scripts.
	This is AI.
	In the morning, babe.
	Hey, later on tonight, will you read from M the Fed to me?
	Yeah, okay, babe.
	Now that's funny.
	I think the bit has played out.
	End of bed.
	And you know what's great about Dame Jennifer?
	You don't have to send her a script.
	I didn't have to talk to her.
	She's just like, hey, I've never had so much fun in my life, she says, doing this.
	She's the best.
	All our producers are fabulous.
	They're the best producers in the universe.
	Okay, I do want to mention, I do want to mention.
	You do?
	Producer Dino.
	Dino has put together the new bingit.io, now with AI, and it has been incredibly helpful in a number of specific scenarios.
	During my show prep.
	I'll give you an example.
	Let me see.
	We have...
	What is the best?
	Oh yeah, we have this one over here.
	So this story pops up on ABC.
	A rare medical condition linked to heavy pot smoking is becoming more common now that marijuana is legal in so many states.
	It's called CHS and it strikes people who use high doses of marijuana daily over an extended period.
	CHS causes severe vomiting and is often overlooked or misdiagnosed.
	The only way to be fully cured is to stop smoking.
	One challenge we have is that patients sometimes believe that their use of marijuana is helping them.
	We know that in patients with cancer, marijuana actually reduces nausea and vomiting.
	So for many patients, understanding that for them this is a poison is a tough pill to swallow.
	So now it's called CHS.
	All I had to do was go into bingit.io and I put in weed and vomit and up pops episode 707.
	I'm sorry.
	That's about right.
	I'm sorry, not 707.
	Up pops...
	994 from 2017 was in the Daily Mail.
	Something about vomiting and screaming.
	The concept of the story is if you smoke a lot of weed then eventually you get this syndrome which combines screaming out for dear life and vomiting at the same time.
	Yeah, which by the way I don't I live in California, there's plenty of people that smoke way too much weed.
	Dude, you had a partner for 10 years who smokes too much weed, what do you do?
	That's you!
	Yes!
	I've never had this.
	So it was called scrommeting, and we deduced it, and we deduced it, and deconstructed it, and it's not smoking regular weed, it's when you're dabbing, when you're smoking the wax, which is, you know, and many of our producers mention this, and What this report didn't include is that one way to reduce the symptoms is to take a shower and basically stand under the shower.
	That appears to reduce these symptoms significantly.
	I forgot about the scrumeting moniker, which they won't bring back because they don't want to remind you this is an old story.
	Exactly.
	So now when you go to bingit.io, you type that stuff in, it'll give you results.
	It'll give you an image from the Knowagen Art Generator.
	It'll give you, if there's a clip, It'll give you show notes, the actual stories, and if it's in the transcript, every single episode, thank you Dreb Scott, has been transcribed, you click on it, it'll take you right to that spot in the audio in the episode.
	So here's another example.
	Oh my!
	AI is so amazing, CBS!
	Cutting-edge research.
	Cutting-edge!
	Artificial intelligence is significantly better at predicting a patient's cancer risk, according to a new study out today.
	The role of AI in predicting breast cancer risk is definitely in our future.
	Dr. Polly Nirvath is a breast oncologist with Houston Methodist.
	Assessing a person's risk.
	The AI can do it probably a lot cheaper and faster as well.
	Current clinical models use a patient's age, family history, and information like breast density to determine risk.
	Artificial intelligence is able to get biomarkers, more information from the mammogram, helping doctors make personalized recommendations.
	The Kaiser Permanente research analyzed the mammograms of more than eight... What?
	It's with her presentation style.
	Why is she talking like this?
	She's AI.
	13,000 women.
	AI took just seconds to determine their five-year breast cancer risk.
	And it was up to 25% more accurate when combined with personal history.
	The American Cancer Society reports this year alone, doctors will diagnose almost 300,000 cases of breast cancer.
	More than 43,000 US women will die of the disease.
	Die!
	The rate of breast cancer in women ages 25 to 39 has increased 32% since 2009.
	I think it ends up being a very valuable tool in our arsenal.
	Dr. Niravath says younger women could benefit from this technology, a predictor of when they should get screened, which could save lives.
	First, I want to remind everyone that I predicted this would be the first application of artificial intelligence, was just getting rid of the doctor, just bring in the A.I., oh, you might have breast cancer.
	I predicted this, what, maybe two, three weeks ago?
	If that, this is where you say, yes, I remember.
	Well, yes.
	Unfortunately, I also remember the same situation taking place in the 80s when expert systems, quote unquote, were going to replace doctors then.
	So this is not a new idea.
	No, but it's a total bullcrap idea because this problem was supposedly already solved in 2015.
	Surefire way to know if you might get breast cancer.
	It wasn't AI.
	It wasn't feely touchy of the boobs.
	Here's episode 707.
	Angelina Jolie previously did this big promotion for the BRCA gene.
	The BRCA gene, everybody!
	It's the breast cancer gene, which is patented.
	It's all over the news.
	That's why I'm bringing it up.
	It's patented.
	All over the news.
	Only one company can tell you if you have this and make money off of it, which is a... You're then pre-cancerous for breast cancer.
	Of course.
	What's going on with your voice in this clip?
	I know!
	I don't know.
	Something's very wrong with me at that moment.
	This is 2015.
	Who knows what I was doing?
	But the point is, thanks to our AI, we can take you right back and show that they were so positive about this BRCA gene, and this was the predictor, that Angelina Jolie had a mastectomy and had a very nice reconstruction, which as we, I won't play the clip because I do sound weird, was being paid for by Obamacare.
	You could get reconstructive surgery for your double mastectomy if you had the BRCA gene.
	So now all of a sudden, we don't remember that anymore.
	And I don't think they can put Angelina Jolie in again as the spokesmodel.
	That would be kind of weird.
	So it's a sham, all of this stuff.
	It's just a sham.
	It's a sham.
	The whole medical system.
	It's really disgusting.
	I have, um... Let me see.
	This is Yahoo News.
	So now they're... I don't know if they're competing for the ad dollars between the different pharmaceutical companies.
	Like, you know, who will get the new RSV vaccine first?
	Will it be Pfizer?
	Will it be Glaxo?
	I don't know!
	We're very excited because, you know, we've got the pitch team ready to go sell some ad spots.
	Well, let's find out what's going on!
	This report is all jitty!
	FDA advisors are voting on Pfizer's experimental maternal RSV vaccine.
	Here with the latest is Yahoo Finance health reporter Anjali Kimlani.
	Anji, you've been listening in, you just pulled your earbuds out.
	What are we hearing?
	We just got the vote in, so hot off the press.
	We got a majority of the vote.
	We just got the vote!
	In for the Pfizer's maternal RSV vaccine and that's 14 to 0 a vote on approving it.
	It's like we're voting on Trump's I can't remember the word now.
	Impeachment.
	Impeachment!
	We have the votes!
	The votes are in!
	I just listened in on the votes!
	They are recommending approval based on the efficacy of the vaccine, but we did get a 10 to 4 vote on voting for, on recommendation on the safety profile of the vaccine.
	I'm going to get to that.
	So we got everyone's like, yeah, this is good.
	Let's 14 to 0, but 4 dissented 10 to 4.
	It should be like the, you know, it should be like NATO, you know, it should be everybody says yes or not.
	The Security Council.
	Thank you, Security Council.
	Now it's like, oh, we got a 10 to 4 on the safety.
	Well, let's Who are those dorks?
	In just a second, but just to recap what we're looking at with Pfizer's vaccine.
	It is a 120 microgram dose administered to pregnant mothers between the weeks of 24 to 36 weeks.
	It protects the baby up to six months.
	That's at least the endpoint that they had notified and it met that endpoint.
	We noted that in the data Number one, that later in the third trimester is when it seemed to have the best efficacy, as well as strongest protection up to 30 days versus after that.
	Now, Pfizer is competing with GlaxoSmithKline for RSV vaccines.
	Aren't they really competing against a baby's immune system which is so jacked up that the baby really can't catch anything for about nine months and this only lasts six?
	They're giving this to the mothers!
	Yeah, but it's for the babies.
	They don't care!
	It's competition!
	Eventually, they're going to stick the needle right in the uterus.
	Now, Pfizer is competing with GlaxoSmithKline for RSV vaccines.
	We did note specifically that GSK actually dropped out or paused their Phase 3 because of certain safety signals, which you can see, of course, indicated in those votes there.
	Specifically on preterm births, Pfizer noted 5.6% in their vaccine group versus 4.7 in placebo.
	I don't know what this means, but it sounds like the vaccine numbers are better than the placebo.
	Back it up, back it up.
	These people are sick.
	Yes.
	Back it up a little bit so I can hear what those numbers were.
	C, of course, indicated in those votes there.
	Specifically on preterm births, Pfizer noted 5.6% in their vaccine group versus 4.7% in placebo.
	GlaxoSmithKline noted... That's not enough to make a difference!
	Exactly.
	C, of course, indicated in those votes there.
	5.6% versus 4.7%.
	In other words, the placebo almost gave you the same results.
	Well, there's one, Glaxo had a different result.
	The signals, which you can see, of course, indicated in those votes there, specifically on preterm births.
	Pfizer noted 5.6 percent in their vaccine group versus 4.7 placebo.
	GlaxoSmithKline noted 6.8 percent in their vaccine group versus 4.9 in placebo.
	So the placebo numbers are pretty close.
	We also do have some similar indications.
	One major difference is that GlaxoSmithKline.
	Hold on a second.
	This idiot is reading this as though she is.
	She's reading it with it with the notion in the subtext that and she says it.
	The placebo numbers are pretty close.
	Yeah.
	Meaning that it's good?
	She doesn't know what she's doing.
	She's just reporting numbers.
	Oh, this is good.
	The placebo numbers, the placebo, if you get a high placebo number, that means that people don't need the drug.
	But there's one more detail.
	Axine group versus 4.9 in placebo.
	So the placebo numbers are pretty close.
	They also do have some similar indications.
	One major difference is that GlaxoSmithKline's group also had neonatal deaths reported.
	So that was a significant...
	Whoa, they had a death.
	Oh, no.
	Oh no, Glaxo!
	Oh, we're so sorry, Glaxo loses the race.
	They lost the baby.
	GlaxoSmithKline's group also had neonatal deaths reported, so that was a significant safety signal as well.
	Deaths is plural.
	It's a significant safety signal.
	She said deaths, not won.
	She should have said des.
	Des!
	That is a significant safety signal.
	Klein's group also had neonatal deaths reported.
	So that was a significant safety signal as well.
	That's what started that pause.
	So as it stands right now, Pfizer looks like it's clear for at least a recommendation for a yes vote from the FDA.
	They are still waiting on the FDA to decide on their older adult vaccine.
	They also do have that up for waiting for a vote from the FDA.
	Meanwhile, GlaxoSmithKline was the first to get the 16-older RSV vaccine out.
	So, neck and neck, really, when it comes to it, but Pfizer is the only one on the table right now with a maternal vaccine, so if this moves forward, it'll be the first.
	Oh, it'll be Pfizer!
	Everybody, pitch team, go!
	Go to Pfizer!
	And then say, hey man, why don't we do native ads where we hype up that Glaxo killed the babies?
	That's a significant safety signal, sir.
	These people are out of control.
	They do not care about your health.
	They only care about money.
	Well, and these reporters don't know what they're reporting.
	Well, no, but she works at Yahoo.
	So let's give her a little bit of a benefit of the doubt.
	She doesn't know what she's doing.
	They pay there.
	Do they?
	All right.
	It's okay.
	Now let's go to the real salespeople.
	Dr. Natalie Azar on NBC Today Show.
	All right, well now we turn to some potential major medical news in the battle against melanoma.
	Potential major medical news.
	The most serious type of skin cancer.
	Drug companies Moderna and Merck just released.
	Oh, it's neck and neck once again.
	It's Moderna and Merck.
	Promising results from a vaccine trial.
	And we have NBC News medical contributor Dr. Natalie Azar here to break down what they found and what it all means.
	Good morning to you.
	Good morning!
	Hey, how you doing?
	Let's talk about some mRNA shots.
	Hearing about these updates for the past few months on this cancer vaccine as it goes through trials, what does that mean for us?
	Like, what's the latest here?
	Well, and also we should point out, we talk a lot about melanoma during the summer months, but this is a threat that is really year-round.
	So, in this study they actually had individuals who had stage 3 or stage 4 melanoma, so a little bit more advanced.
	Oh good, we had the good ones!
	And they basically compared treatment with this mRNA vaccine plus standard of care, which is immunotherapy called Keytruda, to just Keytruda alone.
	And they found that the individuals who got combination therapy had a 65% reduction of recurrence and of death.
	And what made it even more interesting, you guys, was it wasn't just what we call, like, local recurrence, but it was those distant metastases, like the melanoma showing up someplace else, like in the liver or the lung, which for melanoma patients is huge in terms of survival if they can reduce that risk of those distant mets.
	This sounds like good news!
	Now, is this a preventative?
	Is it a real vaccine?
	Vaccine?
	You know, a vaccine like you give to someone so they don't get something?
	So, when you think about a vaccine, it's something preventative.
	So, do people who don't have melanoma get it now just in case?
	No, and this is what's so interesting.
	We learned and we talked so much about that.
	This is so interesting!
	No!
	No, but this is so interesting.
	mRNA vaccine for the COVID, right?
	So it's the exact same technology and really philosophically it's the same idea that you're training your immune system to recognize something, to either fight it or prevent it in the case of infection, or in the case of these melanoma tumors, to seek out and find cancer cells in your body before they even become cancer.
	What's even, I think, kind of more unique about it is that it's not a one-size-fits-all.
	Like, you know how we all got Pfizer, we all got Moderna, Yeah, we all, no, what did you, you all got Pfizer and you got Moderna?
	Did you get J&J too, you boostaholic?
	This is unique to the patient's tumor.
	They take the tumor out, they map out the genetic sequences that are abnormal, and then they give it back to you via this mRNA vaccine your body then, like, makes.
	I think it's just so neat from an immunological perspective.
	And then it goes out and it tries to find those abnormal cells and kill them.
	To prevent them from spreading.
	To prevent them from coming back.
	A truly customized, a customized vaccine.
	No, your line is customized, dude.
	Okay?
	Yeah, truly customized.
	It's not a vaccine, but it's interesting.
	It's customized.
	When can we get it?
	Timetable.
	How soon can we see it cleared?
	How soon can we see it available for use?
	Available for use, which is what everyone wants to know.
	So this was a phase two trial.
	They are now launching their phase three.
	That's the last phase.
	It's the biggest.
	It's the longest.
	I imagine they'll want to follow these people for at least a year.
	So we're not talking this year, maybe not even next year, but I'm hoping within the next two years or so, we'll see Yeah, of course, of course.
	Maybe next two years, whatever.
	Don't worry, it's just Moderna and Merck and they're doing well.
	And of course, this is the future.
	This is what the president said.
	The Cancer Moon shot.
	Lots of money for this.
	You know, Natalie, I see the commercials for Keytruda and one of the things they mentioned is they're researching it to see whether it's good for other kinds of cancers.
	Is that one of the Exactly.
	So it's like, just like with immunotherapy, it's not like, Keytruda is not specific to melanoma.
	It's specific to a genetic mutation that might be in multiple different cancers.
	The same concept is here.
	You could use this really for other types of cancers that have a lot of genetic mutations.
	So specifically, they're studying it in lung.
	I think Pfizer is studying it in pancreatic cancer.
	So just like immunotherapy kind of like changed the landscape for cancer therapy, that's It's probably like the 6.9% efficacy as opposed to the 4.9% placebo is a breakthrough.
	the next thing on the horizon.
	So it's really exciting.
	It's a real big breakthrough.
	It's a real breakthrough.
	You know, I like the 6.9% of efficacy as opposed to the 4.9% placebo.
	It's a breakthrough.
	I think I hear that Jamie Foxx trialed it.
	Oh, gee.
	You know, I just want to put this on everyone's radar that...
	The term mystery illness is trending.
	Mystery illness.
	Mystery illness.
	A lot of celebrities have mystery illness.
	I'm not sure what it is, but it's a mystery illness.
	Keep your eye on this mystery illness.
	Oh, it just involves blood clots.
	It's a mystery illness.
	Luckily, amongst all of this shilling for all kinds of horrible things that can happen to you, that you can be saved by mRNA, the same technology as COVID, mystery illness, here's a classic, a classic John C. Dvorak.
	America's favorite doctor, and apparently vasectomies are on the rise!
	Well, they are.
	John, did you hear that?
	Good!
	Vasectomies are on the rise!
	I like how your eyes got really big when you said that.
	They did, they did get, I saw that.
	I am so glad we're talking about this, you guys, and I want to share some numbers with you from 2017 to 2020.
	I'm so happy we're talking about this, guys.
	The vasectomy rate increased on average about 4%.
	It's still lower than it was 20 years ago.
	Fun fact, the rates of vasectomies in this country normally kind of go up towards the end of the year.
	Largely thinking behind that is that people's insurance deductibles are met by then so they can have a And around March Madness too.
	And around March Madness.
	Now why is that?
	Exactly.
	Now this is interesting.
	I mean, first of all, people's deductibles, you know, they've been fulfilled, so then it's basically free.
	Free.
	And how are we going to market this this time?
	How are we going to tell men, men, men, how are we going to tell men that they should get a vasectomy?
	Why?
	What are we going to do?
	What's the pitch?
	Pause.
	You guys, I can't emphasize this enough.
	This is a 10-minute office procedure that requires post-procedure about one to two days of rest, ice, some Motrin.
	What better time than to watch some basketball games as a man recovers?
	That's all the men in the studio here.
	So there's your pitch, just a little bit of ice, a little Motrin, you can watch TV, watch the game.
	What kind of stereotype is this bullshit?
	There's a lot of guys that don't like basketball and they don't like watching it.
	Like me, I don't watch it, I'm not watching it.
	I think basketball is great, but I know plenty of guys, I would say half the guys I know won't watch a basketball game.
	Yeah, well, it's stereotyping, but there's more.
	I mean, really, mild.
	And when you compare that... Okay, what are we gonna compare this mild discomfort with?
	You have no idea?
	Oh, I didn't know this was an open-ended question for me.
	Yes, it was a question.
	Yes, it was a... Oh, headache?
	No!
	No!
	Ball ache?
	No!
	No!
	Kick in the nuts?
	No!
	Nervous laugh, but I mean really mild.
	And when you compare that to what women have to go through in terms of not just pregnancy, but contraception, birth control.
	Come on, you guys.
	For a woman to get their fallopian tubes tied... She just had to bring it on home.
	I mean, seriously.
	And I will say that... Our periods are a week.
	Yeah, every month.
	I'm not going to argue against it.
	For 30 plus years.
	I will say the biggest myth is that it affects sexual function.
	It does not.
	So really this is a conversation that I would encourage women and men to have with their health care provider.
	A urologist does this procedure and we should be talking about this more.
	The only thing she did wrong, which is a huge faux pas, she should not have said men and women.
	She should have said people who are assigned male at birth.
	I'm very disappointed that she did that.
	That's not at all, that's not at all how it's supposed to be done.
	Not trendy.
	Not trendy at all.
	There was something very concerning, and this is all bullcrap of course, but what was concerning is they had a big signing ceremony at the World Health Organization.
	Now the World Health Organization treaty, the updated treaty that we've been hearing about, Will not be up for signing or agreement and ratification until December of this year.
	That keeps getting delayed because of course nobody, no real people in any countries want the World Health Organization controlling what they do.
	But they did have a signing ceremony.
	And they all agreed on a global health passport system.
	Oh yay!
	Here's our buddy Tedros.
	While the emergency phase of the COVID-19 pandemic is now over, investments in digital infrastructure remain an important resource for health systems and for economies and societies at large.
	Like many countries, the European Union made significant investments in COVID-19 certificates to help people move around as safely as possible during the pandemic.
	The European Union's certification system was used by all 27 EU member states and more than 50 other countries.
	Building on the success of the EU system, WHO is proud today to launch the Global Digital Health Certification Network.
	So thank you so much to European Union for the excellent certification system that you have transferred to us and we have the chance to build on it.
	WHO will begin operations of the network today with the existing COVID-19 certificate as a global public good.
	Soon after we will expand this infrastructure by incorporating other use such as a digitized International certificate of vaccination.
	Nice!
	Routine immunization cards and international patient summaries.
	International patient summaries.
	This was the whole point of the COVID exercise.
	They finally did it and everyone signed off.
	Oh, this is great.
	Let's do that.
	All the countries signed off.
	And you, this is, they just do this now and then when they do the whole, the whole pandemic treaty that'll just be a footnote.
	This is, this is truly evil.
	Forget all the vaccine bull, this is bad.
	Because we know That it'll be used.
	New York used it.
	All the countries used it.
	My daughter was indoors for months because she didn't have the passport, the QR code, the scanner.
	What was it called in New York?
	The empire?
	Not the empire system.
	It was like some elitist term.
	What was that again?
	I can't remember.
	This is not good.
	There's going to be plenty of resistance against this and then there's going to be a good black... There's zero resistance.
	There's zero.
	Everyone's saying... Well, you're resisting right now.
	Oh, wow.
	That'd be a thriving black market.
	Dude on podcast resists.
	Stop the presses.
	Okay.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Do you want to do some TikTok?
	I would need some TikTok.
	You got any TikTok videos for us today?
	I have none, but I do have a TikTok story.
	Talk.
	Talk.
	TikTok.
	This is not a TikTok clip.
	Okay.
	Shouldn't have played that, but let's go with it.
	This is interesting to me, and after we play these two short clips, See if you see the same or hear or understand the same thing I would understand from these clips.
	This is TikTok decoded.
	A new report on TikTok's China ties.
	The app's source code has been written by engineers based in China.
	That's according to a code sample obtained by an Australian newspaper.
	TikTok has been downplaying ties with its Chinese owner ByteDance, especially amid West Western bans of the video sharing app, but a code sample recently seen by the Australia's Financial Review may defeat that effort.
	The sample appears to control broadcasting and moderation of live streaming.
	It shows at least a dozen usernames with email addresses linked to ByteDance.
	Sources that the Financial Review did not disclose confirm that many of these engineers worked in mainland China.
	James Patterson is Australia's Shadow Minister for Home Affairs and Cyber Security.
	He said the code sample shows that engineers working on it in China can access user data and are captured by the intelligence and security laws of the Chinese Communist Party.
	Under its national intelligence law, Beijing can force all entities and citizens to cooperate with so-called national intelligence efforts.
	Oh, nice!
	Okay, so a couple of things just from this clip.
	One, I don't know what kind of information they're going to get, but is this the first time the code has been looked at and deconstructed?
	You can run software on code and see what it looks like.
	Isn't this the lead up to, you can be here in America as long as we know what your algo is doing?
	Isn't that kind of the story that's leading up to that?
	I don't know if that's or not, but let's play a clip too.
	Patterson warned that the CCP can also compel TikTok staff to suppress or elevate pro-Beijing content or sow division within Western democracies.
	In July 2022, TikTok Australia admitted that its employees in China could access Australian user data.
	Over two dozen US states have banned the video sharing app on government devices.
	Last month, Montana passed a new law further banning its use on personal devices.
	Yeah, okay.
	I just think reverse engineering the code on TikTok should have been done 20 times over by the NSA, and I'm sure it has been.
	Yeah.
	And so I think these stories are bullcrap.
	I'm not even sure what the point of them are, except for the original thesis, which is this is only to screw TikTok because they're taking all the advertising money.
	Staying with China, I have an article from Epoch Times This is what we were just talking about.
	As the WHO pandemic treaty negotiations progress in secrecy, ancillary groups flag key priorities.
	As 194 nations continue to work through drafts of pandemic agreement that would grant more authority to the World Health Organization, The Global Preparedness Monitoring Board, I'm sure that's a Bill Gates thing, a body convened by the WHO, has called for a worldwide pandemic simulation to be carried out by the end of this year to test the effectiveness of the new terms before member nations sign them in 2024.
	Sound familiar?
	Sounds like another scam.
	What was that?
	Event 201?
	This is exactly what it sounds like.
	You know, you were the one that, and I agree with you, said this was, they learned a lot from this.
	This was, this was a learning exercise and it was not, not unsuccessful.
	Mystery illness.
	And mystery illness.
	Yeah.
	And, and now they want to, uh, no, let's do another simulation before everybody signs on so we can make sure.
	They probably got something new in mind.
	There's probably some element that somebody's going through the data and went, you know, what if we had done this instead?
	And they're going to try it.
	I think they're going to try another scam.
	Scandemic.
	I got a couple of clips about China going... These are interesting.
	This is China's cyber possibilities.
	This is a threat, supposedly.
	China's been talking about... This is from last show.
	China's cyber.
	China's cyber?
	China.
	China's cyber.
	China's cyber.
	A serious warning from the United States about cyber attacks from China.
	U.S.
	critical infrastructure could be under digital siege from the communist regime.
	The State Department is targeting recent activity by a Chinese cyber group.
	Here's what a spokesman had to say.
	The U.S.
	intelligence community assesses that China almost certainly is capable of launching cyber attacks that could disrupt critical infrastructure services within the United States, including against oil and gas pipelines and rail systems.
	It's vital for government network defenders and the public to stay vigilant.
	This is NTD?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	I like it.
	I trust their reporting.
	Well, let's go with Clip 2 then.
	Uh, there's two.
	There's two Clip 2s.
	It should be China's Cyber Possibility 2 Volt.
	Yes, I have it twice for some reason.
	Dubbed Volt Typhoon, the cyber group recently triggered a multi-nation alert.
	In a report on Wednesday, Microsoft said the group could disrupt critical communications infrastructure between the U.S.
	and Asia in the event of a crisis.
	Microsoft also says Volt Typhoon recently targeted I like, this is a show title.
	Volt Typhoon.
	I love Volt Typhoon.
	Does Volt Typhoon, um, does that point to, um, power, power being dropped?
	bases and could play a critical role in the event of a conflict in the Indo-Pacific region.
	The National Security Agency said there was no doubt Volt Typhoon was putting itself in position to carry out disruptive attacks.
	I like this is a show title, Volt Typhoon.
	I love Volt Typhoon.
	Does Volt Typhoon, does that point to power being dropped?
	Oh, by the way, oh man, I don't know.
	It finally happened this morning.
	You lost your power?
	Two and a half hours.
	It was down for two and a half hours.
	The generator cranked in?
	So it kicked in right at seven.
	Now what happens, the power goes off.
	So the power actually went off.
	I'd just gotten up, seven o'clock.
	And then the generator kicks in.
	We got the full house going with the air conditioner.
	Everything's rocking and rolling.
	Two and a half hours is a long time though.
	Um, and I think, well, I had to re, you know, I had to restart my, the studio machine, uh, but the entire time the fiber, uh, stayed lit.
	So, you know, that was a huge bonus.
	I'm not quite sure how that works.
	Um, but, and I, and, and I could have, of course, switched the backup.
	So I was able to just continue show prep as if nothing happened.
	It was beautiful.
	Two and a half hours.
	That was quite the outage.
	Anyway.
	What's the temperature there?
	Um, well, we've had really bad weather.
	We've had huge storms.
	Like, last night was a massive storm.
	Right now, 75.
	Let me double check.
	Uh, right now, AccuWeather says 75 degrees.
	And, uh, we got lots of- And so you have to use air conditioning when you're at that temperature?
	Um, the air conditioner is just on.
	We have it set to 72 continuously.
	That's just our temperature.
	We're like cave people.
	You're part of the problem, man.
	Better believe it, bro.
	I'm also in Texas, where we don't have problems.
	Let's go to part three.
	Exactly what could these disruptive attacks target?
	The National Security Agency issued an alert, notifying a broad range of critical infrastructure.
	That's including electrical utilities, nuclear power stations, water systems, and railways.
	By the way, we have quite the humidity here.
	That's why we need to do that, but okay.
	Can't all live in San Francisco.
	Man, I was just throwing that out.
	It was a joke.
	Okay.
	Jokes can get you in trouble.
	Start wars.
	On with clip 4.
	Kevin Stockland said over the past 10 years, China has managed to supply between 10 and 15 percent of the transformers for the U.S.
	electrical grid.
	If these devices were to break down, the grid would quickly stop functioning.
	But hospitals would no longer be able to run.
	Our communications system breaks down.
	A lot of our supply chains would no longer function.
	And things like water delivery and water purification, certainly heating and air conditioning, all these systems would disappear overnight.
	Stockland added the U.S.
	Department of Energy may be looking to produce components for the electrical grid domestically.
	But right now, there are only a small number of American engineering firms that make them.
	So this of course- We don't make jack!
	But they're not going to blame it on China, they're going to blame it on Republicans.
	White supremacists.
	White cis men.
	That's what the Department of Homeland Security has warned us of.
	Yeah, that's a real problem.
	Especially, and also parents.
	So, staying on China and moving to this week, the two clips I have is Xi's Xi war warning, which I think is connected to this other clip.
	Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping has a message for China's top national security officials.
	He says prepare for worst-case scenarios.
	Let's learn more about what those could be and what this means for Americans.
	Joining me now is retired Marine Colonel Grant Newsham, who's also a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy, and author of the new book, When China Attacks, A Warning to America.
	Grant, it's always great having you on the show.
	I'm glad to be here.
	Thanks for having me.
	What do you think are these worst case scenarios and stormy seas that Chinese regime leader Xi Jinping is talking about?
	Not leading the witness at all here.
	Well, I think he's talking about going to war.
	It could be sort of a big war, small war, use of force somewhere.
	It wouldn't surprise me if Taiwan was in the crosshairs.
	But I would take what Xi Jinping is saying very seriously.
	He has been, for a while now, has been trying to sanction-proof China, economically, financially, in terms of building coal-powered energy plants, one after the other.
	He's trying to isolate China from the effects that will happen if he does use force somewhere.
	I would take him very seriously.
	He's been taking measures to improve their ability to call up reserve forces to replace combat casualties.
	And you're seeing the People's Liberation Army conducting really rehearsals for Taiwan going back almost a year now.
	I expect the third part of those rehearsals to take place in the fall.
	Rehearsals.
	Interesting term, instead of exercises, which would be your typical... Yeah, exercise is what we usually use.
	Yeah, but rehearsal means it's staged, as far as I'm concerned, if we're talking about rehearsals.
	Well, there you go.
	Part two.
	We have seen the effects of sanctions on Russia.
	And speaking of Taiwan, PLA General Li Xiangfu threatens that China will attack any nation that splits it from Taiwan.
	In his speech, he talks about harmony and not imposing one's own will on others.
	But many see this as inconsistent in China's actions towards Taiwan.
	What are your reaction here?
	Well, it is inconsistent from our perspective.
	Note, of course, that nobody has ever talked about attacking China.
	Ever.
	You know, I'm glad to wait here for a good long while for someone to name somebody.
	But China does come at their situation from a different perspective, and they have convinced themselves and may genuinely believe that they are being encircled, they're being bullied by the rest of the world, by the Americans in particular.
	So you do have to consider China's perspective in all of this.
	We may disagree with it.
	It may, in fact, be wrong.
	But that doesn't mean that they don't believe it.
	And there's always a rote reaction on the Western side to say, well, they would just never use violence.
	They're just acting out.
	They're just talking.
	Just couldn't happen.
	Well, remember that people said, well, Vladimir Putin will never attack Ukraine.
	Just couldn't happen.
	And that was the common wisdom.
	Wow.
	Grant, what does Xi Jinping's rhetoric mean for the United States?
	when they threaten to use violence.
	Grant, what does Xi Jinping's rhetoric mean for the United States?
	Well, it means that, you know, we'd better take it seriously.
	And we had better get our military in order, be ready to respond.
	And I'm not sure that we've actually thought this through the way that we need to.
	I think the military probably has, but I'm not sure the White House has.
	That's not unusual.
	We need to get our financial house in order.
	And we need to do something about this chaos that we've got in our political world.
	And also to be very useful if we stopped funding the People's Republic of China.
	We've got to get this just unchecked investment that American business, that Wall Street is pouring into China, that is effectively propping up Xi Jinping's war machine.
	Wow, this guy's some kind of agent, man.
	Yeah, something's up with that guy.
	But kind of a side clip, I couldn't resist, is play the sanctions clip.
	The United States yesterday imposed sanctions on more than a dozen entities and people in China, Hong Kong, and Iran over accusations they helped Iran develop a hypersonic ballistic missile.
	Iran yesterday presented what officials described as its first domestically made hypersonic ballistic missile.
	The head of its Aerospace Force said the missile has a range of almost 900 miles and can evade the U.S.
	and Israel's anti-missile systems.
	Hypersonic missiles can fly at least These are the people who brought you the moped drones?
	Now they've got a hypersonic missile?
	Just a thing about China.
	They've got it all wrong.
	We are already under attack by China.
	In fact, I am under attack by China.
	independently verified these are the people who brought you the moped drones now they've got just the thing about china they've got it all wrong we are already under attack by china in fact i am under attack by china i was just attacked by china while that clip played i received a text Another one of these pig butchering messages.
	You know where they try to sucker you in to invest in some crypto stuff?
	But this is a new one!
	First of all, area code 361.
	Where's that?
	Area code 361.
	I don't think that's a legit area code, is it?
	It's probably one of those cell number codes.
	So now they've changed it.
	I've never responded.
	Maybe we should respond to this one.
	Well, I'm going to respond.
	Like you and me, live on the air here.
	Let's respond.
	Oh, okay.
	So the message is, hello, are you Jenny, the personal swim... Corpus Christi.
	Oh, is that Corpus Christi?
	Well, listen, Corpus Christi writes, hello, are you Jenny, the personal swimming instructor introduced by Steve?
	So now, what do they expect me to answer here?
	Should I just say, yeah, that's me.
	How you doing?
	Should I do that?
	Huh?
	Because they know it's not you.
	Right.
	So I think they just want to, I think what they want to do is, this is scraping.
	Yeah.
	They want you to say, no it's not Jenny, you have the wrong number.
	Now they have a phone number that's been verified.
	So I could also say, yes it's Jenny!
	You think they'll respond to that?
	If you're gonna do that, I would do the following.
	Okay.
	Yes it's Jenny, call me back immediately.
	Yes, it's Jenny.
	This doesn't sound like a good idea.
	Yeah!
	It sounds like a great idea, because you're not going to get a call.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Before I do that, then, let me just connect my phone to Bluetooth so I can put it on the air, just in case they do call.
	Hold on.
	I can do that through this hot shit Australian... No, this would be great.
	Wouldn't it be great if they actually did?
	They won't call!
	No, but it would be great if they did.
	Hold on, let me see.
	Yeah, it would be terrific, actually.
	System, Bluetooth, Bluetooth.
	Let me just make sure it's on.
	Bluetooth is on.
	Search for audio devices.
	Rodecaster Pro.
	These guys, this is so hot, man.
	This stuff works.
	Okay.
	Did it connect?
	Reconnect.
	Boom.
	And yes.
	Okay.
	I'm connected.
	So if they call, let me open up the channel.
	No, it's open.
	Okay.
	If they, um, take it off.
	Okay, if they call, I can put them in.
	Alright, here we go.
	Call me back immediately.
	Exclamation mark?
	And an emoji?
	Should I add an emoji?
	No, just the exclamation mark.
	That'll do it.
	Okay.
	And click send.
	If they call Of course my phone number will be compromised For the rest of my life It's already compromised.
	Yeah, clearly.
	Alright, well, so far no good.
	While we're waiting for China to return my call... And why do you suspect this is China, not India?
	Because it's the Chinese guys who are doing it.
	We have the whole pig butchering thing is from China.
	Hello, you're on no agenda.
	Caller number 100.
	Ah, puss.
	I'm so pussed.
	They're not calling back.
	Okay.
	Some China news, because we've got a war going on.
	A war.
	A war with China.
	A near collision between U.S.
	and Chinese Navy ships in the Taiwan Strait has sparked a war of words between the two countries.
	Both sides now warning that such incidents could lead to serious escalations.
	Monica Alba is tracking it all from the White House.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, shit.
	They're calling.
	Hold on.
	Let's do it!
	Yeah, yeah, okay.
	Oh!
	Call ended.
	Oh, lame.
	Oh, man.
	I can't believe that they ended the call.
	That's too bad.
	Maybe they'll call back.
	I would send them another note.
	Oh, call ended.
	Oh, lame.
	Oh, man.
	I can't believe that they ended the call.
	That's too bad.
	Maybe they'll call back.
	I would send them another note.
	Okay.
	I missed your call.
	you What happened?
	Yeah, what happened?
	Two question marks.
	I missed, I missed, oh, two question marks.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Back to the clip.
	The U.S. military said the Chinese ship executed maneuvers in an unsafe manner and its actions violated the maritime rules of the road.
	While the Chinese defense minister argued that recent joint U.S. and Canadian patrols in the region served as a provocation and warned that a fierce confrontation between the U.S. and China would lead to unbearable pain for the whole world.
	Unbearable pain for the whole world.
	I can't even get them to call me back.
	Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin overnight called the close encounter extremely dangerous.
	I call upon the PRC's leadership to really do the right things to rein in that kind of conduct.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Here they are again.
	Here they are again.
	Let's see if we can get it to work.
	Hello?
	Oh, and they hung up again.
	All right.
	Okay.
	They're not serious.
	What do I do now?
	They hung up again.
	It connected?
	This is hopeless.
	I give up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Too bad.
	Accidents can happen that could cause things to spiral out of control.
	This latest incident comes just days after a Chinese fighter jet flew directly in front of the nose of a U.S.
	reconnaissance plane over the South China Sea.
	Tensions rising as the White House seeks to re-establish diplomatic channels after communication broke down following the Chinese spy balloon incident in February.
	If they call again, I won't say hello, I'll just do this.
	Yeah, there you go.
	So, uh, because they understand Korean.
	So, uh, why do they blame everything on this spy balloon incident?
	Because it's bull.
	Because we just heard from the other guy.
	It's a rehearsal.
	It's a rehearsal for a little show.
	None of this is real.
	It's just sad.
	It's more military industrial complex stuff.
	Well, it's sad because a bunch of people end up getting killed.
	I don't think anyone's getting killed.
	I don't think anything of the kind is gonna happen.
	I think they're getting killed in Ukraine.
	I think there's plenty of dead there.
	And I think it's, this is another one of my oddball thoughts.
	Okay.
	Most of the people being killed in Ukraine are prisoners.
	Hmm.
	And so you empty out your jails, give them an opportunity to go fight.
	Yeah.
	And they get killed, they get killed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's no evidence that the people are protesting in Moscow.
	No.
	They drained the whole prison system.
	Oh, listen, okay, let me, and they'll finish this up and I won't talk about it.
	So they texted me back, I'm Chloe.
	Steve gave me this number.
	I'm so sorry.
	I hope I'm not interrupting your work.
	If you have time, we can have a cup of afternoon tea together.
	What are they trying?
	Afternoon, T.O.S.
	I'm the whore.
	That's the whole idea.
	That's how the pig... I'm not going to respond.
	I'm done with this.
	I'm done with this nonsense.
	Yeah, they wouldn't call.
	No, they wouldn't call, so I'm done with this nonsense.
	Chloe.
	Should I just send me a picture, Chloe?
	But that's China.
	We're under attack from China.
	They're trying to get into my personal finances.
	None of this will end well.
	Well, if they build everything, I don't understand how we can even, we might as well just give up now.
	Well, the Volt Typhoon is on its way.
	We should all be very worried about that.
	Can we do the one break?
	I think we're close to it.
	Yeah, I think we can.
	Sure.
	Well then, let me thank you for your courage saying the morning to you, the man who put the C in incogniscenti.
	Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore!
	I'm glad you like that word.
	I love that word.
	It's a good word.
	In the morning, Mr. Adam Curry and the Ships of Sea, Blues of the Graphene, the Airsubs, and the Warner.
	James the Knight's out there.
	in the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Choke out.
	It's been 20.
	Hello, trolls.
	The trolls in the troll room scurrying away the minute we announced that we're taking a break.
	Oh my god, you're gonna miss the magic number, the secret word, and the guest of the day.
	1,996.
	1,996 trolls hanging out with us, John.
	How's that for a number?
	Is that okay for a Thursday?
	Are we doing okay?
	Thursday it's a hundred over.
	Yeah, Thursdays are good.
	Sundays are the ones we're having a little bit of trouble.
	It's kind of interesting.
	Yeah, weird.
	You can join these people, also known as trolls, in the troll room by going to trollroom.io.
	When you go there, you can get the live stream, you can chat away and troll, and what else do you need to do?
	That's all you need.
	Of course, you can always do this with a modern podcast app.
	Go to podcastapps.com.
	The newest one is Fountain.
	Everyone's happy with the Fountain live stuff.
	Never heard of it.
	Fountain is popular.
	How about Podcast Guru?
	Heard of Podcast Guru?
	Podcast Addict?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, they all do this.
	These are all fabulous apps.
	They do all this stuff.
	How is it a guru?
	Look, don't ask complicated questions.
	Just say, yeah, this is great.
	They're supporting us.
	We can't get deplatformed off of these apps.
	That's the beauty of it.
	Oh, it's great.
	Yeah, these guys are the best.
	Yeah, thank you.
	You can also, of course, reach out to us, follow us on Mastodon, Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com, and yeah, that's where all the artists are, hanging out, complaining about us, the artists who bring us the artwork for every single episode, brand new artwork, it's fresh.
	It's exciting, it's fun to watch.
	You can also, just while you're listening, go to noagendaartgenerator.com and refresh and see what they're bringing in, what we might choose to use for this episode.
	And we like to highlight the artist, and thank them of course, we give them a credit in the show notes, for bringing us the artwork.
	In this case, for episode 1561, we titled it Star Butler, and the artwork was done by Nestworks.
	We had, this was, we had a lot of choices for this one.
	For this particular episode.
	Uh, and there was every, every single one of them had a problem.
	There was something, something had a problem everywhere.
	Um, let's see.
	Lots of sandbags.
	Well, let me look at the Nestworks one.
	Well, this was the sandbag.
	This was the, uh, but it was called the sabotage sandbag.
	And by the way, that thing wasn't just sitting there, it was latched to one of the legs of the teleprompter.
	It didn't look that way to me.
	They showed a big photo, a giant, a real big blow-up.
	It is the type of sandbag, it's got that little loop over the top and the leg of the tripod was put through it and the sandbags were holding it down.
	Interesting.
	Because then how did he trip?
	I mean, wasn't he just talking into the crowd and looking at the teleprompter and then he turns around, walks behind everybody and trips over the teleprompter?
	Or was it the other teleprompter?
	It was the other teleprompter.
	It was the one on the left, or the right, his right, as he looks out.
	Anyway, you could see it, and you could see the stupid shoes he had on.
	How about this?
	When you have an 80-year-old president, use a big yellow one.
	Just a thought, people.
	Or an orange one.
	Could even be funnier.
	Yeah.
	Of course, there was lots of AI art from Comicstreetblogger.
	There was a piece I liked by Francisco Scaramanga, Tall Serbs Love It, which unfortunately, I just liked the piece, but the Tall Serbs Love It was actually too small.
	I just liked the piece and I don't know if it was, there's not enough We don't have enough Scaramanga stuff to know whether this was licensed.
	We don't know what he's doing.
	But the one that we... The one that I liked and you talked me out of, I think appropriately, was the Mike Reilly Rainbow Vomit.
	Yes.
	It was a good piece.
	It was great.
	It was a typical Reilly piece, you know.
	Yeah, Reilly's funny.
	Yeah.
	That's what he does.
	And it was funny, but you talked me out of it.
	How did you talk me out of it again?
	I thought it was inappropriate.
	Uh, rainbow vomit.
	You know, it came from one of the something somebody said on the show and I blip.
	Yeah.
	And, uh, yeah.
	It's just a bit much.
	Yeah.
	There was a lot of other rainbow stuff.
	Yeah, the rainbow stuff was out.
	Yeah, there's too much rainbow stuff.
	Don't want anyone to get confused.
	It was a furry thing.
	A comic strip blogger defending his furriness.
	With an image titled, Nothing Wrong With Being a Furry.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's not a furry.
	You don't think so?
	That I immediately got to like, revise.
	I mean, yeah, I can imagine him being a big bear or something.
	Just a thought.
	Thank you very much.
	There were very few pieces that were any good.
	Yeah.
	Except there were pieces that were good, but they weren't appropriate.
	Not all were appropriate.
	And I will say this, most of the AI art that we're getting, AI art, because I've been playing a lot with it.
	Yes, in the newsletter.
	We've seen it.
	You get great results.
	Those are all the screw-ups they put in the newsletter.
	Yeah, well, of course.
	But I would say that it's more work, I think, for an actual artist To get an AI piece that he would find useful or she would find useful as opposed to cranking through just doing it by hand.
	If you got an idea.
	I think you're right.
	I think you're right.
	You got to change so much.
	You got to work on it so much.
	And I mean, especially if there's people in it, I always see it.
	No, no, people, they're impossible.
	Doing people is like, forget it.
	But, you know, anything that looks like a photo, it's just, you see, it's not a photo.
	It reminds me of the days of the Fairlight.
	Remember the Fairlight?
	No.
	Okay.
	The Fairlight was really the first sampler.
	Herbie Hancock used it.
	The Buggles used it.
	Yes used it.
	Everyone was sampling.
	And so you could almost tell when they'd sampled something.
	The 10cc.
	And then we got the DX7.
	Michael Jackson was the first one to have the DX7.
	Boom!
	Thriller.
	Everybody had, oh no, DX7.
	Everybody had the same sound.
	You just heard it right away.
	Ah, DX7, okay.
	The 808 drum sampler.
	It's like, yeah, the first guy to use it, okay, great, but then you start recognizing it.
	Yeah, it's like they actually take it further back and not use this idea that it's electronic oriented.
	But it's, it reminds me the phenomenon.
	The Mellotron.
	The Mellotron.
	No, no, if you remember a lot, if you can remember this far back, but at some point in the mid to late 60s, late 60s probably, all of a sudden the sitar showed up in every other rock song.
	What the hell is the sitar doing in any song?
	The Beatles did that, man.
	The Beatles brought the sitar.
	They did it first.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And was it annoying at the time?
	The sitar?
	It was!
	Yeah, of course it was.
	It had a nice sound sometimes, though.
	I think my baby wrote me a letter.
	I think it was the Box Tops.
	Yeah, Box Tops.
	They used it very well.
	They had a sitar in that song?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think the main beat was the sitar.
	Isn't that weird?
	I cannot remember...
	Give me a ticket to an airplane.
	Dad, there's a sitar in that?
	There's a sitar.
	Go play it.
	You got it.
	You can just go right to it.
	Play it right now.
	What do you think I am?
	Like some kind of musical jukebox dude?
	Like I'm a disco?
	Yo dude, I gotta open up my jukebox program and everything.
	I don't think there's a sitar in My Baby Sent Me.
	Was it in like a solo?
	No, you'll hear it.
	Oh, you're going to make me do this, aren't you?
	Okay, hold on.
	You don't have to do it now.
	You can do it later.
	Well, now that we're here, box tops?
	We've been trying to get Chinese people on the air.
	I mean, we might as well do it.
	Nothing works.
	Nothing is working yet.
	There'll be no sitar in the song.
	You're probably right.
	Let me see.
	Three, four.
	That's a bass, that's not a sitar.
	No, it's coming.
	Okay.
	I think it's in the bridge.
	The song is only a minute fifty, so.
	Baby, she wrote me a letter.
	Okay.
	They have that cool kind of Beatles music left and vocals on the other side.
	Yeah, which is the worst thing in the world to do.
	Stupid George Martin.
	There it is, that's violins.
	It's violins!
	There's no sitar.
	I'm gonna have to go back and listen to the whole song.
	This is the whole song.
	I'm thinking about some other song then.
	This is the whole song.
	There's no sitar.
	No, I'm thinking of a different song that reminds me of this song.
	No, I'm sorry.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	No prize for you, Mr. Dvorak.
	Anyway, let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,562.
	And we kick it off with a missing note, which is very annoyballs to both of us.
	I don't have it.
	I don't have it either.
	It's Lindsay Nolacek, and we know why she was writing in.
	She said the email would be sent separately.
	Yeah, well.
	I don't have it.
	It wasn't sent to notes at notes at noagendashow.net.
	It wasn't sent to adammccurry.com.
	I don't think it was.
	Not sent to you either?
	I got no notes from any Nolachecks.
	Me neither!
	And I know their code names.
	I even looked under that.
	How about this for an idea?
	You were meant to send a note.
	Maybe that's what happened.
	It's very possible.
	No, I did get something from Mr. Nolacheck and said, you know, Lindsey will be sending a note.
	Now we know the update.
	The update is they're not going out of business, they're selling.
	After four generations of Nolichek Meats, they've decided... This is what happens when kids don't want to run the business.
	Yeah, it's almost like they didn't want to go through succession, you know?
	It's like, we don't want the dumb kids running everything.
	Let's just sell it all and take the dough.
	Sell it to some tech guy.
	We had a situation similar in Albany, California, this little deli called Zari's.
	And Zari's, the old man, and there was a great deli.
	I mean, everything was so cheap.
	They did direct importing.
	It was a fabulous place.
	No bet.
	And the old man, and everybody was really meanable.
	They had a bunch of kids, about, I think, four kids working there.
	And there was two kids that were going, one of the two was going to get the place.
	Uh, to run.
	And the two kids could not agree on who's going to be the next boss.
	And they got into a bunch of, I guess, short of a fist fight.
	And they never could resolve it.
	And the old man said, fuck it.
	These kids are never going to be able to figure this out.
	And he sold the whole company off to some other guy.
	Yeah, that's what you do.
	That was the end of it.
	That's exactly what Murdoch's going to do.
	He's going to sell it all to Elon.
	Elon!
	So they did post a note on Nolocheckmeats and after 71 years, and they've withstood the test of time, they had incredible growth over the past five years, four generations, and they just decided, you know, it's time.
	It's heavy and it'll affect our beloved customers, spanning four generations.
	It's been an honor to work, and it was an honor to buy from you.
	But we understand, I think John and I understand, like no one else.
	If we could sell this show, believe me, in a heartbeat, No, we'll be stuck here for another four generations.
	So we get it.
	You will be missed.
	You had great meat.
	Loved your meat.
	So we'll give... Great sausages, world class.
	Yes, double up karma for the Nola Czech Meats family.
	You've got...
	Yeah, the brats are good.
	MH in Denver, Colorado is up next and he came up with 388.33 and he says, no need to mention me.
	I'm a new listener.
	Appreciate the perspectives you preach.
	Preach!
	Please continue your work.
	This is my value for your value.
	MH.
	We love that.
	That's exactly what the value for value system is supposed to be.
	We do like crediting you, of course, and thank you for that.
	Just like Susan Johnson in McKinney, Texas.
	369.83.
	What are these special numbers?
	Let me see.
	In March, my birthday was noted for my son who went onto the podium to become a Knight of the Round Table.
	Epic!
	I'm following his lead.
	Please add Elliot Johnson to the birthday list.
	469.
	We'll do that.
	With this donation, I request the title Dame Susan of the Solder Wheel.
	Of the Solder Wheel.
	How nice.
	Nice.
	Let me just double check that your son is on the list here.
	Hmm.
	Yes, he's on the list.
	Good to go.
	And thank you very much.
	Oh, what are you drinking, John?
	Same thing.
	LaCroix.
	I don't know which one you pronounce.
	LaCroix.
	I'm drinking LaCroix.
	LaCroix water.
	It's plain old water?
	There's no taste?
	Just water?
	Yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	I do like the Pamplemousse.
	Oh, yeah.
	Pamplemousse.
	What is Pamplemousse?
	What kind of flavor is that?
	What is Pamplemousse?
	What is the base flavor of Pamplemousse?
	Grapefruit.
	Oh, dynamite.
	Now, why they don't call it that, I don't know.
	All right.
	You're up.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm just sitting here looking at you.
	You're just drinking or just drinking your water every bit.
	Water.
	Jordan Goodfellow in Davenport, Florida, 333.33, which we like to see.
	I'm moving my barony to Florida.
	We'll need to discuss driving up the territory when dividing him up with my fellow barons in the area.
	Hopefully it will stay chivalrous.
	Yeah, I never know.
	In the meantime, I'd like to... I'll make the read easy.
	Head over to gigrent.com for all of your live event audiovisual equipment rental and management needs.
	Now with the new Orlando, Florida office.
	No one does a live read like you, John C. Dvorak.
	You are the best.
	I'm looking forward to the next Pharma meeting for some boots-on-the-ground reporting.
	If I might request an Obama A-team jingle and a business growth and prosperity karma jingle.
	May you never find an exit strategy.
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
	It calls on America.
	And that's the story.
	You've got karma.
	Classic.
	Haven't heard that one in a while.
	Love that.
	It's a good one.
	Thanks for bringing it back.
	Sean King in Elpris, Florida.
	333.33.
	Didouche, por favor.
	333.33.
	Didouche, por favor.
	You've been didouche.
	Anonymous, meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio. 333.33.
	333.33.
	You guys are cool.
	Don't mention my name.
	Don.
	Why not?
	333 from Ross Johnson in Eugene, Oregon.
	Biden Tripper!
	Biden Tripper, yeah!
	In the morning, you missed the cantilevered mic stand behind the monitor speaker to help whoever was shilling backstage.
	Notice the gray and black floor tiles on Joe's stage.
	He's not supposed to walk on the gray ones, which contrast obstructions.
	That's interesting.
	I'm not sure I understand it entirely.
	He thinks it was a cantilevered mic when it was the prompter.
	It was the prompter bag.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	He wasn't looking down on the gray white or anything else.
	He wasn't looking at anything.
	Josh?
	He was just, uh, what?
	Pretty much.
	Josh Cox in Austin, Texas.
	That's your neck of the woods, or was.
	Was, yeah.
	333.
	This is for my mom, Cheryl Cox's birthday on the 7th.
	This makes her a dame.
	Nice.
	I think she's on the list.
	She will need to write in and tell us what her dame name is.
	Happy birthday, mom.
	So nice.
	Is she actually on the list with a name or not?
	Well, she's probably just listed as... No, she's not.
	I think this is because this was read and assumed that this is exactly the case.
	She has to write in... Then we'll wait for her.
	What the dame name is.
	We'll wait for her, no problem.
	That was done properly.
	Correct.
	Well done, back office.
	Sir, Greasemonkey is in Odessa, Texas, also right up the road.
	After hearing the interview with Elon during the last donation segment, where he and Adam became BFFs for life, I knew it was time to donate.
	See?
	It's the secret guest that people are missing when they skip the donation segment.
	Toots, Sir Grease Monkey of the West Texas Oil Fields.
	Thank you very much.
	All right, sir.
	Don't pass it on.
	By the way, he's our first Associate Executive Producer with 250.
	I don't have this note.
	Oh, you didn't get the notes?
	I got the notes.
	John from Tucson.
	I got the notes.
	John from Tucson.
	Yeah, I have this note.
	Typed note.
	Really, a typed note with a typewriter.
	Enclosed is my donation of $250 to No Agenda.
	You have been reading my mind for the last 40 years.
	All I could do till now was yell at the radio or whatever.
	I'm writing to have me and my wife Melody de-dude.
	You've been de-douched.
	We've been hit in the mouth by my second favorite, I like them to keep guessing, human resource, Kim, keeper of the Nutty Fluffers from Oregon.
	Keep them coming.
	Please give me an F-cancer jingle.
	Okay, we love doing that.
	You've got karma.
	Buffy and Lance in Oxford, Mississippi.
	222.22, I discovered your show during the plandemic and hit my husband in the mouth.
	Please accept this donation.
	It's in Oxford, Mississippi.
	I wonder if I can do better than that.
	I discovered your show during the plandemic and hit my husband in the mouth.
	All righty then.
	Insult them while you're at it.
	Please accept the donation as we've been seeing Rosa Ducks everywhere.
	And de-douches.
	You've been de-douched.
	Since we're both in desperate need.
	Love you guys, Buffy and Lance.
	Aww, thank you Buffy and Lance.
	We love you too.
	John's in Columbus, Ohio and says, Dear Adam, Dear John, Gitmo Nation, I donate today because I've achieved a great feat!
	I was recounting some insane news story about how meat makes you fat or something stupid like that to my smoking hot wife and after a short pause she blurts out, Sounds like an op!
	I did it!
	She's one of us!
	I'd also like to add that I took Megyn Kelly's advice and tried listening to the last few No Agenda episodes at two times speed, and all I could make out was John bumping his mic stand.
	Do I have somebody to back you up?
	Anyways, stack sat silver and shotgun shells.
	It's gonna get weird out there, folks.
	Stay dangerous!
	John at Immediate Casualty Care.
	Dame Christina Pearl in Deputy.
	She's our flight attendant.
	In Indiana.
	She's in Indiana.
	She is.
	That's what she says.
	First of all, thank you Brother Adam for remembering my birthday, although I think the Keeper has something to do with this.
	I don't know.
	I asked my husband, Sir Robert Charles of Deputy Charlie, Deputy Charlie, for the Too Many Eggs book for my birthday, and he told me he'd download the free PDF.
	Well done!
	Here you go, babe.
	It's at TooManyEggs.com if you want to get a free copy.
	He did get me a hard copy as a gift, although it was unsigned by Mimi.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, well.
	Then on my birthday morning, he said, oops, I forgot to send a birthday donation for you.
	So he'll need some husband karma.
	Yeah, he does if he wants to stay a husband.
	Second.
	Although I've never flown with Sir BNA as he is very junior to me.
	I've been saying in the morning in my PAs since at least November of 2020.
	And I know this because I tooted about it.
	I had the pleasure of flying with Sir PTWOB.
	Something.
	I don't know.
	We both used ITM on our PAs, which had the other flight attendants running to the interphone to ask, what the heck is this in the morning?
	If you know, you know!
	Sir BNA stated it's a good opportunity to hit people in the mouth.
	Sir PTWOB told me that he has even had some ATC call ITM back to him.
	Oh, we need a recording.
	N.A.
	indeed has many fans in the airline industry.
	Thank you both for everything you do.
	For N.A.
	Nation, may you never find an exit strategy.
	Much love, L.U.V.
	from Dame Christina.
	Thank you, Dame Christina Pearl.
	Corey Getty is in Port Charlotte, Florida.
	20202, palindrome ducks from Sir Fauci's throat.
	For my father, the Tallahassee meetup was a grand old time.
	jingles, Fauci, wheeze, Fauci, good to be here, and oh, Elon.
	Also, some Trump-Pelosi jobs karma.
	Hold on a second.
	I think I always have that ready.
	For my father, the Tallahassee meetup was a grand old time.
	Thank you very much.
	From Corey.
	Oh, Elon.
	Elon!
	Good to be here, bro.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Jaron Nooren in Vuten Vuten.
	Vlooten.
	Vlooten.
	Floot.
	Vlooten, Netherlands.
	Flooten, yes.
	Vlooten.
	Yeah.
	Uh, ITM, a donation in honor of my dad, Kees Nooren, who passed away last Monday.
	Case.
	Case.
	Case Nooren.
	Case.
	I'm gonna remember that.
	Case, please play F Cancer jingle for all the producers and extended families who need it.
	Keep up the outstanding work.
	Regards, Sir Ron Doran.
	Sorry about that, Ron.
	You've got karma.
	Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
	Our final Associate Executive Producer $200.
	Actually, there's one more.
	Oh, yes, you're right, because it's a Canadian.
	Well, I'll do this one.
	Jobs, jobs, karma for all you job seekers out there.
	And to give yourself a competitive edge, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc.com.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	I think I'm getting better at it.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, I'm working on it.
	Sir Spencer in Canada came in with 250 Canadian dollar rets, no jingles, no karma, baronet Sir Spencer.
	Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	And we thank all of these executive and associate executive producers for supporting episode 1,562.
	We have a couple more to do.
	John, I'll take you through those in a moment, but I do want to read our layaway knight note.
	Garrett Ivester, who will be knighted today, attaches my proof of knighthood from two separate recurring donations.
	My first being $10 a week.
	Then I switch to the $0.75 per hour donation.
	Is this on Dvorak.org?
	I love that idea.
	That's a cool idea.
	No, that's the $4 a week donation.
	I think I finally hit knighthood back in November but have not sent in my info until now.
	The plan took a few years but it slowly adds up.
	I encourage all listeners to get any type donation program because we can all afford something to keep this great show running strong.
	I would like to be known as Sir Givester of Murrtown and would like to shout out my dad, Stu, since he's the one who hit me in the mouth.
	Can you please play a whoopee classified scream and also some human resource karma as me and my wife.
	Is it me and my wife or is it my wife and I?
	My wife and I.
	Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird.
	Hold on a second.
	Classify.
	You can say whatever you want.
	Hold on.
	Where's my Ruby?
	Oh, there it is.
	We're expecting identical twin girls in less than a month!
	Now how does he know they're identical?
	Seriously.
	Do you know that beforehand they're going to be identical?
	Can you see that?
	I guess in the early days of the visualization, maybe they're still glued together.
	Oh, and diet coke for me at the round table!
	Keep up the good work!
	Okay, you got it.
	Classified!
	You've got karma.
	And John's going to take us through the 50s with the rest of the donors for today.
	Yeah, we'll start with Aaron in Denver.
	Came in with $156.10.
	He did write a note, and we don't read these lower ones, but we can give him a de-douching that he wrote.
	You've been de-douched.
	Sir.
	Knight, Gray Rider, and Sherwood, Oregon.
	1, 2, 3.
	And by the way, Aaron was 1, 56, 10.
	Sir Gray Ryder is 1-2-3-2-1.
	Kevin Dreggers in Melrose, Florida.
	1-11-11.
	With a deduce request.
	He's deducing.
	You've been deduced.
	His mom's on the birthday list.
	Ronnie Shambless in Attica, Indiana.
	100.
	Tim Harwood in Corvallis, Oregon.
	100.
	He's got a little note there for you.
	He also has a note for me, says the newsletter is dynamite.
	And boom, Kevin McLaughlin, Locust, North Carolina, 8008, boobs right at the top of the list, along with Robert Osegueda in Easton, Connecticut, 8008, and Jason Shepard in Superior, Colorado, just down the road from Inferior, Colorado, 8008, Richard Thompson in New Townards,
	UK, 7777, he's actually in the Emerald Island, he's in Ireland, Northern Ireland.
	Dame DeLorean in Kansas City, Missouri, 6969, he's got a birthday, she's put a birthday on there for someone.
	For Sir Spencer, sure.
	Sure Spencer.
	Donald Lipinski in Austin, Texas.
	Your buddy, 69.
	Top-notch heating and cooling.
	Is that what it is?
	And air.
	It's top-notch heating and air.
	Oh.
	Top-notch heating and air in Mantee, Utah. $64.
	And they'll do a clean-up for ya.
	Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota.
	Nuts.
	It's just pronounced Ling, idiot.
	62-33.
	Needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Anonymous in Columbus, Ohio, 60.
	Sir Dagwood in Spokane, Washington, 57, 51.
	Gergana Yankova in Chesham, UK, 56, 78.
	James Zwart in Madison, South Dakota.
	He got a birthday.
	His human resource, Ainsley.
	She's so proud.
	He's so proud of her.
	Nice.
	Ninth birthday.
	5510.
	Sir Rain Man in Canyon, Texas, 5427.
	Another birthday call out for himself.
	Michael Gates, 5280.
	Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa, 51.
	Steve Sanders in Casey or Case.
	Casey or Case, not sure.
	South Carolina.
	Thanks for the vaccine information.
	And now we have $50 donors, name and location, one after the other.
	Christopher McClymont in Merricksville, New South Wales.
	Alex Zavala in Kyle, Texas.
	Michael Labarre in Williamston, Michigan.
	By the way, the Australian one's probably $140.
	Michael Shelton in New York.
	Hannibal.
	Hannibal, New York.
	Matthew Smith in Colchester, Suffolk.
	Ryan Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island.
	Philip Kuzminowski in Austin, Texas.
	Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas.
	Justin Cruz in Tehachapi, California.
	Ed Misurik in Memphis.
	Robertson Holm.
	Robertson Holm in Flint, Michigan.
	Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	Laurie Carl Crooks in Thornbury, Victoria, Australia.
	Wow.
	Capic Chiropractic in Capic, Michigan.
	George Wuschett in La Vernia, Texas.
	Sir Luke Rayner in London, UK.
	He wants karma for everybody.
	We'll put that at the end.
	Miranda Wonder in Tallahassee, Florida.
	She's got a... She might have a 90 or something.
	She becomes a dame.
	Don't misgender her.
	I want to wish Raoul... You're right.
	I misgendered.
	It's for her husband.
	Raoul, Raoul, rhymes with pal, a happy birthday.
	I know I worked a long time on Dame Hood, but to thank you for all you do, for introducing me to the show, and to celebrate your amazing talents as a bassist and sound engineer, I want you to have the knighthood.
	I love you always.
	Can you please knight him Sir Ralligator of the Panhandle Swamp, and can he change it if he chooses?
	Well, of course.
	Thank you, John Adam, for all you do.
	Well, thank you.
	What a nice thing to do.
	What a nice gesture, Miranda.
	You got it.
	Stephen Cremey in El Cajon, California.
	Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach.
	And last on our list is William Dolgay in Bristolville, Ohio.
	These people all made this show a possibility and here we are.
	We're still doing the show thanks to them.
	And we thank Michael Michael Shelton, he wanted some health karma.
	He's recovering from a mystery illness.
	As well as Sir Rainman, he had wanted karma and pregnancy karma for his wife, and we've got them for you.
	We'll give you a gold karma for that for the pregnancy, of course.
	Thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda Show.
	If you'd like to learn how to do that, go here.
	And of course, our executive and associate executive producers keep the credit for their lifetime!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	You.
	What?
	What?
	This world.
	Shut up, Slay.
	Shut up, Slay.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, don't watch out.
	Josh Cox wishes his mom, Cheryl Cox, a happy birthday, That was yesterday.
	Sir Raymond turned 27 yesterday.
	Kevin Dreggers wishes his mom, Victoria Furr, a happy birthday today.
	Susan Johnson, Elliot Johnson, his birthday is tomorrow.
	Happy birthday.
	Dame DeLorean says happy birthday to Sir Spencer Wolfe of Kansas.
	He'll be turning 33 tomorrow.
	Jordan Hojno turns 31 on the 10th.
	James Spark wishes his first human resource, Ainsley, a happy birthday.
	She turns 9 on the 10th.
	Miranda Wonders says happy birthday to Raul, and Aaron wishes his smoking hot wife Lexi a happy birthday, and we say happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	No title changes, but we've got a dame and we've got two knights, and here's a blade to prove it.
	And here's a blade for you.
	Oh, thank you for that blade.
	Up on the podium please, Susan Johnson, Garrett Ivester, and Rao.
	All of you are about to become knights and dame of the Noah Jenner Round Table.
	I'm very proud to pronounce the K.D.
	as Dame Susan of the Solder Wheel.
	Sir Givester of Murrtown and Sir Ralligator of the Panhandle Swamp.
	For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	We've got a Diet Coke here, someone ordered.
	We've got a Diet Coke and some video games, in fact.
	Also, Redhead and Rise, Organic Macaroni and Plasticizers, Beer and Blunts.
	We've got Gates and Sake, Rubinous Lemon and Rosé, Vodka, Manila, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escort, Gin Drill and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablimor.
	Of course, We've got the good old mutton and mead and that is always here for all to consume while you check out NoAgendaRings.com and at NoAgendaRings.com you can see these handsome knight-in-dame rings.
	Everybody can take a look at them but only the anointed can get one so send this the address to send it to and of course the ring size handy little guide there on how to do that and thank you for supporting The best podcast in the universe.
	I don't think we have any... no meetup reports today.
	Hold on a second.
	So let's get straight into the meetups then.
	Here's what's on deck this Saturday and Sunday.
	The East Texas Weekend Marathon Bar Hop Extravaganza.
	It starts at 10 o'clock and it has the whole bunch of stops at Shine, Morisco's, True Vine, Black Pearl, Fun and Finer Things, Foster's Place Restaurant.
	This is the Dirty Jersey Whore.
	He organizes this kind of stuff.
	Sounds like fun.
	Check out noagendameetups.com.
	Also on Saturday, the Ben's and Bernadette's That's Brunch!
	10 o'clock at Bacon Bistro Cafe in Hearst, Texas.
	The Fort Wayne Club 33 Weekend Dancers start dancing at 1 1 o'clock at Hulls Tavern in Coventry, Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	The FBI Informants Anonymous, you spooks, want to meet at Hofbrauhaus, Columbus, Columbus, Ohio, 3 o'clock.
	And the East Lake City meet-up, barbecue, and bedreifsbezook on Seed Care.
	That's 4 p.m. Amsterdam time at Seed Care, East Lake City.
	That's an English name.
	In Oster Lake, the Netherlands.
	Send a report for that, boys and girls.
	On Saturday in Asheville, the non-woke underground meet-up kicks off at 5 at the Secret Lodge in Asheville, North Carolina.
	You need to check out noagendameetups.com to get all the information.
	The Hooey Hooey BBQ at Luke's Place, 5 o'clock, Portland, Oregon on Saturday.
	And then the next show day, Sunday, Indianapolis, NA Tribe and Allies, 3 o'clock at Prodigy Burger Bar, 96th Street in Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Come one, come all, noagendameetups.com.
	It's where your community is.
	If you have never If you've ever been to a meetup, now is your chance.
	And if you can't find one near you, start one yourself because connection is protection.
	Sometimes you don't play around with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Triggered all hell to blame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Okay, let's see.
	Isos.
	You got any isos?
	You got any good isos?
	I have three isos.
	Oh, I got three isos as well.
	Let's do yours first.
	Okay, I'll start with true.
	Try so true.
	It's true.
	Okay, you get a little chuckle out of me.
	Lunacy.
	Bullshark, lunacy.
	What did you say at the beginning?
	Ultra lunacy.
	What did you say at the beginning?
	Utter.
	Ultra lunacy.
	No, that's Claire.
	It's Claire.
	It's a little weak.
	A little weak.
	Plus lunacy.
	Cool.
	It's really cool.
	Yeah, not bad.
	Not bad.
	I've got this one.
	No clue.
	I've got... Actually good.
	Ooh, wait a minute.
	Can we do a combo there?
	For some reason, it felt like that was combo worthy.
	Let me see.
	It's really cool.
	Actually good.
	Could do it.
	Yeah.
	Sonic boom.
	Or... In the morning, babe.
	That's my favorite, of course.
	I would say... It's actually good is the best one.
	Sonic boom.
	Oops, sorry.
	Actually good.
	Okay, actually good it is.
	Which is actually good.
	It's actually good.
	Talking about these UFOs, come on.
	Second half of show.
	Play the jingle.
	Where is my second half of show?
	I have the second half of show.
	You're not going to like me.
	You're not going to like my second half of show.
	Now entering second half of show.
	All right.
	I have some clips for this, but I think you should start because you're all giddy and jacked about it.
	What you got?
	Everybody wants us to do this.
	Of course.
	Of course we do.
	Well, first of all, let's start... I got my stuff from NewsNation.
	Yes, that's where I got my stuff from as well.
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, and you got Elizabeth Vargas Show?
	No, I do not have... No.
	No, I got it from Chris Cuomo Show.
	Oh, I got mine from Elizabeth Vargas.
	The News Nation, for people who want to know it, you see it, you can find it on OTA.
	This has got to be a spook-funded outfit.
	What is this thing?
	No, it's done by the Chicago Tribune.
	That's who's funding it.
	It's the old WGN.
	Really?
	Yeah, if you remember, WGN used to be on cable because they'd play the baseball games and all the rest of it.
	They decided to go, they looked at the Looked around and said, what's CNN, MSD?
	These guys are no good.
	And so they turned WGN into NewsNation.
	It's a dynamite channel!
	I think Laura Logan even got kicked off of that.
	So, I start with their first report about predating the spook who came out and says, yeah, yeah, I know for a fact they won't tell us about the aliens.
	Yeah.
	And I have an overall comment to make about all these clips when they were done.
	But let's start with UFO the 29 Palms clip.
	Let's start with this.
	Who is this dynamite host?
	Do you know her name?
	in april 2021 they described seeing a triangular formation of lights hovering above the marine corps base joining us now is jeremy corbell investigative journalist and co-host of the podcast weaponized uh all right you've been studying this footage for quite some time who is this dynamite host do you know what's her name that's elizabeth vargas yeah And it's from an incident two years ago.
	She's an old pro.
	You've seen her a million times.
	Why are we just seeing it now?
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	She's got a whiny voice.
	It takes a while to do these types of investigations.
	You need to find witnesses, as many photos and videos that you can.
	Upon looking at it the first time, when I got the tip that something unusual happened that night, it was just inky darkness and lights in the sky.
	I immediately thought it was flares.
	It's something you see all the time.
	However, over the course of this investigation, I have witnesses, direct eyewitnesses, come forward to me saying, we saw the body of a craft.
	And in fact, they sent low-light photos, which shows an outline.
	So I started to listen, and my mentor in journalism, George Knapp, and I, we dug into it.
	My mentor in journalism, George Knapp, and I, we dug into it and over that time we've been able to collect just dozens of videos and images and eyewitness testimony and really this is an open case.
	We're trying to figure out what it is that people saw at 29 Palms Military Base.
	Now why are you playing this?
	I think I'm playing this because it came a day or two before the other thing.
	Oh, this is set up.
	Okay.
	It's a set up and it's still Elizabeth Vargas and she used to be on 20-20 or one of those shows where and then the daughter ran into the boyfriend who then she found his dead body.
	He had a mystery illness.
	And so she seems to be into this.
	So let's go with part two.
	So we're looking at these videos and photographs right now.
	Where did these come from?
	Well, these are from Marines.
	These are from direct eyewitnesses on the base, which is almost, you know, a thousand square miles.
	It's a large base, but at Camp Wilson, a lot of people took photos and sent them in to me.
	I guess I'm the go-to guy.
	Now, what about the theory that we're looking at flares from some sort of military training exercise?
	I'd heard that sort of thrown out there.
	That's right.
	We would need that substantiated.
	However, you've got a number of Marines saying that we saw a craft.
	These are trained observers, and if they saw... Did he say a crap or craft?
	I couldn't quite... We saw a craft!
	He said craft, but the funnier line is they're trained observers.
	They're Marines!
	Trained observers.
	How are they trained observers?
	Substantiated.
	However, you've got a number of Marines saying that we saw a crop.
	These are trained observers.
	And if they saw the body, and you're seeing that in the low-light images, it's worthy of investigation.
	If somebody makes a claim, then they need to substantiate that claim.
	My claim is I'm reporting the news.
	This is what people have told me, and I have so many witnesses on record.
	And is the Department of Defense investigating this?
	Do you know?
	Well, I'm sure they are now.
	Whenever George Knapp and I release something on the Weaponized Podcast, you can be sure the Department of Defense is now investigating this.
	Wait a minute!
	When they do something on their podcast, the Department of Defense comes into action.
	You can be sure the Department of Defense is now investigating this.
	Yeah, because they're taking these things more seriously.
	A lot of Navy pilots for years have been saying, I saw something up there and I even took pictures of it and felt like nobody listened to them.
	They're listening now.
	Oh my god.
	So she's all in.
	Well, she's pretending to be all in.
	I think she is.
	You know, Joe Rogan's all in on this, too.
	He always has those guys on who make entertainment-based UFO videos, and they come in and like, oh yeah, it's all happening, and they keep showing the TikTok video from 2014, which is, you know, it's a radar image.
	You know where I'm coming from with this.
	But okay, let's go, Kara.
	And so, uh, let's go to now, you know, like a day later or whatever.
	Thanks.
	This guy comes on, this guy comes out of the woodwork.
	He's interviewed by some Brit, but they're covering it very carefully on NewsNation.
	Or she is on this NewsNation network UFO spook whistleblower.
	Ryan Anton is here with the story and this is a blockbuster.
	It is a blockbuster.
	It's really hard to wrap your mind around this.
	I've been working on this for the past couple of weeks.
	I'm still having a hard time processing all of it.
	Over the last couple of years, it sort of became mainstream to discuss UFOs.
	The government has released videos.
	They've acknowledged that we don't know what some of this stuff is out there that we have on camera, but this really takes it all to another level.
	For the very first time, the world is about to hear from a former high-level U.S. intelligence officer who says the government has some of the unidentified craft in its possession.
	He is revealing these exclusive details about the secret government program.
	We're going against the wind.
	The wind's 120 miles from the West.
	Oh my gosh, dude.
	Wow. - All right.
	We have all seen these blurry videos of unidentified flying objects.
	Video evidence, if you will, that old tales of UFOs may not all be conspiracy theories.
	In recent years, Congress starting an official U.S.
	government Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, recently renamed the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or ARO.
	And now in a NewsNation exclusive, David Grush, an Air Force veteran, former member of that task force, and veteran of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, is formally blowing the whistle on secrets he says no one has ever shared publicly before.
	Okay, a couple comments before you continue.
	One.
	Two, what is a whistleblower?
	What is the definition of a whistleblower?
	A whistleblower, I think, is defined as a person who reports on government wrongdoing in such a way that he could lose his job.
	An informant who exposes wrongdoing within an organization in the hope of stopping it.
	So that means that they are putting their own Like Edward Snowden, whistleblower, putting their own career and perhaps life at risk.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, good.
	So here's this guy.
	Now the guy, you've seen him.
	Yes.
	He's a little too slick for my taste.
	You think?
	He's not.
	He's not like a greaseball slick guy.
	Like oily, if you know what I mean.
	Yeah.
	He, but he's just a little too... He's just too, it's too something, and I can't put my finger on what it is, but here we go.
	You are... Yeah, the two, I'm sorry, two, yeah?
	Uh, one of the most trusted... Okay, this is overmodulated, what'd you do?
	It's like crazy.
	It's crazy over-modulated.
	Former intelligence officials in the U.S.
	defense and intelligence establishment.
	Yes, I was.
	You were trusted with the most intimate secrets.
	Yes.
	Grush sitting down with award-winning investigative journalist Ross Colthart, who's reporting for NewsNation and has spent years reporting on the UFO question.
	What conclusion did you come to at the end of your time on the UAP Task Force?
	The UAP Task Force was refused access to a broad crash retrieval program.
	When you say crash retrieval, what do you mean?
	These are retrieving non-human origin technical vehicles, you know, call it spacecraft if you will, non-human, exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or crashed.
	We have spacecraft from another species.
	We do, yeah.
	How many?
	Quite a number.
	You're kidding.
	No.
	I thought it was totally nuts, and I thought at first I was being deceived.
	It was a ruse.
	People started confiding in me.
	They approached me.
	I have plenty of current and former senior intelligence officers that came to me, many of which I knew almost my whole career, that confided in me they were a part of a program.
	They named the program.
	I've never heard of it.
	And they told me, based on their oral testimony, and they provided me documents and other proof.
	That there was, in fact, a program that the UAP Task Force was not read into.
	Grush alleges the U.S.
	government has recovered non-human craft for decades.
	He's filed a whistleblower complaint, saying he gave what he calls the classified proof to Congress and the intelligence community inspector general.
	NewsNation has confirmed David Grush's credentials and resume.
	We've not seen or verified the alleged proof he says he's provided to investigators.
	He says he can't show us the proof for national security reasons.
	He also tells us he's not seen photos of the alleged craft himself, but has talked extensively with other intelligence officials who have.
	Okay, a couple of things.
	Oh yeah, please, yes.
	First of all, this name David Grush... Yeah?
	Rhymes with... Sounds like a CIA-assigned name.
	I've said this before to different people.
	I get a lot of nasty notes when I say that, by the way.
	Really?
	From spooks?
	No, I don't think they're spooks.
	They might be spooks, but I have no idea why.
	Let me ask you a question.
	What is a whistleblower brief?
	They failed a whistleblower brief.
	I want to mention to people out there who have a good ear.
	This guy sounds exactly like the coach of the, or the coach of the Warriors, Steve Kerr.
	Exactly.
	If you just played a couple of clips from him and said it was Steve Kerr.
	Oh yeah.
	Okay.
	So, so this is a milieu voice.
	I'm not sure what the milieu is.
	It could be some college, could be a fraternity.
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Skull and bones, Yale.
	I don't think so.
	Okay, next clip.
	If you're right, if you're telling us the truth, everyone, the entire American public, has been lied to for decades.
	There's a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the U.S.
	populace, which is extremely unethical and immoral.
	You are saying to the human race, for the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the U.S.
	government is saying publicly, we are not alone.
	We're definitely not alone.
	Absolutely, the data points empirically that we're not alone, yeah.
	Do we have bodies?
	Do we have species of non-human?
	Well, naturally, when you recover something that's either landed or crashed, sometimes you encounter dead pilots.
	And believe it or not, as fantastical as that sounds, it's true.
	It's also harder for people to wrap their minds around the concept of a crashed object from somewhere else.
	It's easier to accept that, yeah, we see things in the sky that we can't explain.
	Journalist Leslie Kane broke Rush's whistleblower story this morning in the debrief.
	Ms.
	Kane's career has been mainstream and credible, having written a series of reports on UFOs in the New York Times dating back to 2017.
	He has the credentials, but there's no documents that he's handed over.
	There's no pictures.
	And as a journalist, you want to see documents, you want to see pictures.
	Does that raise a red flag?
	Not at all, Brian.
	I mean, you mean documents that actually describe the craft?
	Correct.
	Yeah, like the documents.
	To be able to see it for ourselves.
	Of course.
	Don't we all want that?
	And the problem with that is all of that information is classified.
	You know, as we sit in the story, everything that Grush told Congress and told the Inspector General of both the IC, the Intelligence Community Inspector General, and the Department of Defense Inspector General, all of that information is classified.
	I love the little, I see, you know, I see, it's the intelligence community, I see.
	You know, and notice how he says dead pilots, but he doesn't say dead alien pilots, he just says dead pilots.
	Sure, we've seen dead pilots.
	Okay.
	Okay, last clip and then I have my one real comment.
	In 2017, Cain reported exclusively in the New York Times that the Pentagon had a secret UFO program.
	Three years later, the Pentagon confirmed her story.
	Her latest report is even more explosive, but Cain says she has multiple sources who back up Grush's story.
	I believe it because of all the sources I have who have told me the same thing.
	So, who am I to doubt these very, very high-level people who have been inside these programs for decades, have done their work, and are all telling me the same thing?
	I mean, I don't think there's some kind of conspiracy among all these people who don't know each other to make something like this up.
	So, I've got to be blunt about this.
	You're not making this up.
	This is not a lie.
	No, absolutely not.
	Because everybody watching this right now is looking at your face.
	They're going, is this guy for real?
	I am for real.
	And I'm sitting here at great personal risk and obvious professional risk by talking to you today.
	And just within the last 10 minutes or so, the Pentagon has released a statement to NewsNation about this report.
	They say, to date, Arrow has not discovered any verifiable information to substantiate claims.
	that any programs regarding the possession or reverse engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.
	Arrow is committed to following the data and its investigation wherever it leads.
	Arrow, working with the Office of the General Counsel and the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, has established a safe and secure process for individuals to come forward with information to aid Arrow in its congressionally mandated historical review.
	Arrow's historical review of records and testimonies is ongoing and due to Congress by June 2024.
	And Arrow welcomes the opportunity to speak with a former or current employee or contractor who believes they have information relevant to this historical review.
	And Elizabeth, we know that David Gresh, he's filed that whistleblower complaint.
	He's been on the record, under oath, testifying to many of these things that he said in our report tonight.
	Right, and it's important to point out that this statement from the Pentagon, from Arrow, Gresham is alleging that this top-secret, top-top-secret-secret program is keeping a secret from Arrow.
	Okay, well I'm curious about your comments and then I can finally get to my clips and my comments.
	Okay, well my comment is the what's left out of all these reports and all the claims.
	This is the first of this and the first of that and the first of this and the first of that.
	And I think what, who was Philip J Corso?
	Chopped liver?
	Yeah, really.
	Corso wrote the book the day after Roswell blew the lid off of all this stuff.
	He has never been debunked.
	His book, The Day After Roswell, has never been adequately debunked!
	And what does he say in his book, The Day After Roswell, that has never been debunked?
	We've been collecting bodies and aircraft and he's seen them!
	I didn't think twice about it.
	He wasn't like this guy.
	I've heard about this.
	I mean, we know that he's seen them, and he says he has, and he talks about in great detail all these mostly ruined spacecraft.
	If they're spacecraft, they're not dimensional craft, which is possible.
	Oh, dimensional craft, like Vision Pro, spatial computing.
	And so this guy's never mentioned.
	He's like, let's forget about that ever happened.
	Uh, cause he's been dead since 2015.
	He's been dead since when he died.
	I can't remember.
	He's dead.
	He's dead.
	Um, that's your, that's it?
	Well, that's my main thing, is why do you assiduously... Oh my goodness, another good word.
	I know, but I have trouble getting that one out.
	No, but I still... Assiduously.
	Assiduously, good word.
	...completely leave this guy out.
	You never mention this.
	It's completely forgotten.
	And it's ignored so you can kind of pump this guy up.
	And this new story, which has got no play at all by anyone, even though Tucker brought it up.
	Of course, Tucker's always bringing this up.
	Alright, let me help you out.
	NewsNation is full of crap, but even NewsNation, and maybe it's to Chris Cuomo's credit, even NewsNation has to tell us the truth somewhere to let us know what's really going on.
	You're right, this guy's a spook.
	He's an approved spook, the story is approved, and here's them saying it.
	Well, I know about Grush because my partner in that podcast, Ross Coulthard, the man who's doing the interview, is someone I've been in contact with, obviously, on a lot of these issues and a lot of the sources that he's had over the time that we've known each other.
	So, I've seen the Grush story coming.
	I did spend a couple of days with Dave Grush in May.
	The day before you guys actually taped the NewsNation interview and I was there for the NewsNation interview.
	Wasn't fired.
	Doesn't have beef that we know about.
	The government hasn't come forward and said he was fired or has beef.
	And in fact, he is telling us the truth as far as we know about going to DOD for pre-publication clearance and he was told not to talk about certain things.
	Is that your understanding as well?
	Well that's what the, it's called the DOPSA document and it basically allows him to talk about certain things.
	Now it's a dangerous game for a person like Dave Grush because that puts a line there and he has to, as he's answering questions for Ross or yourself in the future, he has to wonder whether he's going over that line or not.
	So he's got, you know, he's obviously being watched by the government to make sure that he stays on the right side of what they're allowing him to talk about.
	But I think it is pretty wild that the government has said, you know, go ahead, Dave, tell your story.
	And that's exactly what he's doing.
	And it's interesting.
	I just I'm not sure people even understand this.
	In addition to all the credentials this guy has, he actually worked on the presidential daily briefing.
	He was one of the guys trusted to literally walk that briefing over to the White House.
	You know, this is not some guy who, you know, worked in the government 30 years ago who's coming forward with a YouTube video.
	This is a guy who is deeply involved in the intelligence community of the U.S.
	government up until April of this year, and he's telling a story that, as you've pointed out, is pretty radical, and yet there's a lot of reason to believe that it's true.
	Yeah, and he's telling exactly what his bosses have sent him to tell us.
	That's what they're saying there.
	This guy is an informed spook.
	He's been told what to say.
	And I'll just say it again.
	This is Project Blue Beam.
	This is phony.
	This is the... Aliens may exist, but this is no proof of it.
	This is to get us all hyped up and jacked up, and either the aliens are supposed to bring us together under some kind of horrible enemy we'll all want to fight together, which would be the coolest way, or the new gods.
	And it's bullcrap.
	It's bullcrap.
	No, that's not what it's designed to do at all.
	That's exactly what it's designed to do.
	No, it's designed to get Kamala Harris nominated as the Democrat candidate.
	I have one boots on the ground to share in this regard.
	Anonymous.
	I know I'm just another person, but I figured I'd share it with you.
	My mom worked for the NRO and NGA, National Geospatial Agency, for over 30 years and before that, White House Communications.
	I'm pretty sure her job there was to set up skiffs when the president would travel overseas.
	My entire life, she's never talked about her job.
	I knew she also worked for General Dynamics and sometimes at smaller companies that GD would purchase and operate smaller contracts with.
	Her job was definitely really important.
	I remember when 9-11 happened, the National Guard would pick her up into Humvee for a month to take her to and from work.
	I'm still not entirely sure what her job was for a long time, but I'm positive that towards the end of her career, she did intrusion detection.
	In between contracts, she worked at NORAD and Mount Weather various times.
	And I've heard her talk about intrusion detection to my dad.
	I always assumed she worked in IT and she met hackers.
	But I realize that's not what she meant at all, especially considering the places she works.
	Within the last year, she's told me that her security clearances was gamma.
	G-A-M-M-A.
	And that at one point in her career she had access to the entire database of nuclear codes.
	Told me a highlight of her career that she could talk about was going into the tunnels under Hawaii and retrieving unredacted files from the NSA for a FISA request.
	So all that aside, that's her credentials here.
	I sent her that article from the debrief a few days ago and asked her, Mom, there's no aliens, right?
	And she said, quote, there's no aliens interested in this little planet.
	She then told me that the NGA essentially operates a massive hard drive for the CIA and the NRO.
	And since it's a hard drive, it could be accessed remotely pretty easily.
	I think she was telling me that she's played around on the database.
	I then outright asked her about UAPs and she said, LOL, UAPs were a source of entertainment for us.
	Without outright saying it, I'm understanding that she's saying that NRO NORAD are constantly spotting UAPs and they are not of foreign or extraterrestrial origin.
	I believe this.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Yeah.
	So, sorry, Tucker.
	And I see people on Twitter, well, there's a whistleblower!
	Tucker!
	He's not a whistleblower!
	That's a lie!
	He's not a whistleblower!
	No, he's a spook.
	He's a spook!
	He's a spokesperson.
	He's a spokeshole!
	He's been given a... and okay.
	Point taken.
	The whole point of this is to get Kamala Harris into the president, into the Oval Office.
	Okay.
	You laughed now.
	Actually, I don't want to laugh.
	It's kind of sad to hear that.
	Okay, well, the Change Topics.
	Yes.
	We'll drop that one.
	But we had to cover it.
	We covered.
	Consider it covered.
	Yeah, it's covered.
	I think it's covered well.
	I got a note from one of our producers in Oakland.
	John, I'm a letter carrier in Fair Oaks, California.
	I wanted to give you a boots-on-the-ground update about letter carriers in Oakland.
	Ah, this is the USPS issue once again.
	Well, this issue particularly has to do with the robbing of mailmen.
	Oh no!
	Which is a major problem going on in Oakland.
	They're just getting robbed left and right.
	I don't know why the government doesn't come in because it's a federal offense.
	You can get thrown in the... In the brink!
	In the brink for good.
	The post office sends messages every day to all letter carriers in the Sacramento region asking for letter carriers to come work in Oakland.
	It's so bad for letter carriers in Oakland that the post office offers $100 a day bonus in addition to your hourly rate, plus they pay for accommodations, hotel, Granted, you will only be at the hotel for a limited time because every day is going to be an 11 to 12 hour day.
	Per our contract, after 10 hours, you earn double time!
	Mmm!
	Wow!
	So you get $100 a day bonus in double time, and I thought you might find this interesting, and though I would, and I should let you know about this.
	A little update for Oaklanders.
	Is it possible that the envelope I sent you with the checks from the meetup, that it was stolen?
	That a letter carrier was robbed?
	You still don't have it?
	No, I don't have it.
	You're gonna have to redo it.
	Yeah, we do it.
	That means we have to get the Insta Dame.
	We have to have her cut a new check.
	That's horrible.
	Yeah, that's what I say.
	Alright, since you are an expert, a certified expert, I'm glad we have you here.
	Quick update from Lester Holt.
	Tonight, nearly a third of the country under historic air quality alerts.
	Eerie, almost apocalyptic skies putting 115 million Americans at risk.
	The orange-yellow haze choking cities up and down the East Coast.
	New York City with the worst air in the world.
	The FAA halting flights at one of the busiest airports.
	The Yankees and women's pro basketball postponed.
	With schools keeping students inside, all of it fueled by Canada's massive wildfires.
	I love that update, Lester.
	We don't need to hear any more.
	We know exactly what the headlines are, but now ABC delves in, and I have some questions about air quality, and you are the guy to ask.
	This morning, from bad to worse.
	Tens of millions of Americans are on alert for unhealthy air.
	The New York Yankees game last night, smelling like a campfire.
	New York at one point seeing the worst air quality of any city on earth.
	The smoky haze coming from wildfires in Canada is blotting skylines from Manhattan to Cleveland.
	We're really seeing these exceptional levels that are traditionally seen in really, really populated cities.
	More than 400 wildfires are burning across Canada, from the western provinces to Quebec, turning the sky bright orange.
	Smoke seeping across the border, prompting air quality advisories for at least 80 million Americans as far south as North Carolina.
	One expert saying if you're exposed to the current air quality in New York for 24 hours, it could be equivalent to smoking six cigarettes.
	The immediate health risks are worsening of asthma and worsening of allergy symptoms.
	It can happen immediately in exposure to this type of air quality.
	Vulnerable people are warned to stay inside.
	That's the current air quality, folks.
	It is hazardous out there to be outside from New York to Philly, much of southern New England, and that's not going to change much through the day on Wednesday.
	But there is some relief coming on Friday.
	The rain will wash out a lot of that smoke out of the air.
	Scientists monitor unhealthy air from wildfire smoke by measuring a particle known as PM 2.5, which is small enough to get past your airway defenses and cause breathing problems.
	A recent study at Stanford University found in the last decade, there's been a 27-fold increase in the number of people living in areas with an unhealthy amount of PM 2.5 at least one day per year.
	And there it is, the PM 2.5 or 1.5, I have a feeling that you can enlighten us exactly on the air quality, what it all means, is it really equivalent to smoking six cigarettes, is it dangerous?
	My stepdaughter lives in Brooklyn, she says her eyes are not burning, her throat is not calm.
	Don't worry about it.
	If your eyes aren't burning and you don't have shortness of breath, I wouldn't care.
	But what is this PM 2.5?
	What is all this stuff?
	PM 2.5.
	That's bullshit.
	They make it sound like it's a chemical.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Bullshit.
	Yes, bullshit.
	No kidding.
	Okay.
	It's a particulate.
	It's a fine particle.
	PM.
	Particulate matter.
	It's not defined.
	It's particulate matter.
	2.5 is the size.
	So it's a fine, it's a half micron or two, no, two and a half micron size particle, a particulate matter, which comes from ashes.
	It could be ash, a piece of ash that's so small.
	A 2.5 micron.
	That's what they're talking about.
	A 2.5 micron is small enough that it gets through some filters and stuff like that.
	So wearing the It's about the size of the coronavirus, so it goes right through a mask.
	God, that's what I wanted to hear.
	So people are wearing masks and they think it's going to help them?
	Yeah, it's not going to help you do nothing.
	Forget it.
	The mask ain't doing jack.
	But here's the thing that somebody pointed out to me.
	Yes?
	Is that, where are, where's the movies of these fires?
	Do you think we should send someone?
	When California has these fires, they're driving down the highway.
	They're in, oh, this woman, the trees are falling in front of her.
	There's fires all around.
	Oh, look at this.
	The city's burnt to the ground.
	There's all this stuff going on.
	Where's these movies?
	Where's the film of the fires?
	There's so many fires.
	That's almost a great question.
	It is almost a great question, because I have yet to see one, even a quadcopter taking a movie of these infinite number of fires that are going on up in Canada.
	Do you think we should send some rain stick up to them?
	Oh, that's what a lot of people would like.
	Yeah, we could, because it's not going to hurt me.
	All right, hold on.
	Although, you know, Texas could get the backscatter.
	You're going to get rain no matter what.
	All right.
	I think we do three shakes, man.
	Oh, no.
	Two and a half.
	Two and a half.
	How do you do a half?
	You just flip it once.
	Oh, okay.
	Alright, two and a half.
	Are you ready?
	Ready to see karma incoming for Candanavia.
	you three two one all right two and a half Stop!
	Stop!
	Enough already!
	We don't want to drown here.
	We're building Noah's Ark.
	Good luck, Canada.
	We love you.
	And that concludes... Send some film!
	Send some footage of fire!
	We're going to end appropriately with S&J Shanghai, Obama sucking in soot.
	That should make everybody happy.
	A little bit of... What else we got on the end of show mix?
	We got Daniel Toros classic and a Chris Wilson classic.
	It's all classics!
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	Hey, wait a minute!
	He's just angry all the time.
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