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	Free and open internet!
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	Sunday, March 26, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Get One Nation Media Assassination, episode 1541.
	This is no agenda.
	With blossoming blue bonnets and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6 in the...
	6.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're awaiting the results of the Mega Strike.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Whoa, whoa.
	Mega Strike?
	Mega Strike?
	Are we striking?
	What Mega Strike?
	Wow.
	You must have been in the air.
	Yes, I was in the air.
	I know about the tornado in Mississippi.
	God bless those people.
	But I don't know about the megastrike.
	What happened?
	The megastrike.
	All of Germany's transportation is shutting down completely at midnight tonight.
	Germany, no less.
	Yeah, the whole country.
	Holy crap.
	Every flight is cancelled.
	Oh, I didn't know.
	I knew France had a problem there, but I didn't know.
	And what is the issue with Deutschland?
	How about some money?
	Oh, that's it?
	We want 12 and 15 percent raises.
	I think Deutsche Bahn wants, or uh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	D-Bahn.
	D-Bahn.
	The trains want 15 percent and the airlines want 12.
	Wow!
	I'd say actually we're pretty lucky to get out when we did then.
	All things considered.
	Were you going to Bonn?
	No, but you know, when you, when you get, uh... Oh yeah, I know it screws up everything.
	Yeah, it screws up everything.
	It sure does.
	I thought it was just France.
	France is no better, by the way.
	Turning overseas, violent clashes erupted in France today, as an estimated 1 million people took to the streets, protesting the government's move to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64.
	In Paris, a few dozen people were arrested after attacking police and businesses.
	City Hall in Bordeaux was set on fire.
	Labor strikes are impacting schools, transportation, garbage removal, Gasoline supplies and shutting down tourist sites, including the Eiffel Tower.
	Unions are calling for more protests next week when Britain's King Charles visits France.
	At least the French and the German agree on something, for once.
	It's not the same thing, but they're doing the same.
	It's all striking.
	The German one seems a little more organized.
	We know that.
	And it has a name.
	What is the name?
	Megastrike.
	That's the American name.
	No, that's their name.
	The Germans are calling it Megastrike.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	We got nothing to do with it.
	I do have a follow-up.
	I have some Paris stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	Good, then I have a follow-up for that.
	Yeah, let's do some Paris stuff.
	Since Pierre isn't talking to us anymore.
	Let's go to a new source.
	A new source?
	Oh, alright.
	MTD UK.
	Woo, everybody!
	This is MTD UK.
	Okay.
	It starts out with a King Nogo, Paris-Bernie 1.
	Oh, this sounds good.
	King Charles' state visit to France, originally planned for Sunday, has been postponed.
	It comes after protests over pension reform erupted overnight into some of the worst street violence seen in years.
	French President Macron defended the move, saying it would have lacked sense to stage a historic visit amid social unrest.
	During the demonstrations, police arrested hundreds of protesters and some police officers were injured.
	Not a time for a king to visit France.
	French President Emmanuel Macron announced that King Charles' state visit would be postponed.
	I think it wouldn't have been serious of us and we'd have lacked common sense if we proposed a state visit to His Majesty the King and the Queen concert in the midst of the protests.
	Potentially a major embarrassment for Macron, who had hoped the monarch's visit would mark a symbolic step forward in the two countries' efforts to turn a page after years of poor relations post-Brexit.
	The French president has condemned the violence that erupted in the many protests across France on Thursday.
	He says he will not overturn the controversial pension reform legislation.
	So what, why actually is, I'm not sure why King Charles is going there at all?
	Well the way they make it sound is to mend relations after the Brexit.
	That's what those reports all come in saying.
	They're trying to mend relations.
	So I don't know what their relationship is.
	Mend.
	Is it you deal with a needle and thread?
	Let's mend this.
	Let's go to part two of this.
	Oh, part of this must be the Chunnel.
	That must be the problem.
	The Chunnel and migrants coming over in little dinghies.
	Sneaking in.
	Yeah, that's probably what it has to do.
	Paris, as well as other cities in the country, have plunged into chaos due to nationwide strikes.
	In one district, a street fire spread to a building that has been evacuated.
	The main door of the city hall in the southwestern French city of Bordeaux was set ablaze.
	In the streets of the capital, residents had mixed feelings on the protests.
	I condemn all of this damage.
	The protesters' claims are completely legitimate.
	We can agree or disagree, but it's legitimate.
	It's just that the rules must be respected.
	It looks like there were attempts to try with soft diplomacy, with the unions, with protests that was quite peaceful over the past weeks.
	Now there is forcibly a threshold crossed, which leads to violence on the other side.
	The majority of French people are dissatisfied with the way Macron implemented the pension reform.
	Yeah, I had this clipped in half.
	I unfortunately missed it.
	It was some wordage that I had a disagreement.
	They said it was legislation.
	It was never legislation.
	went to an EU summit on Friday in Brussels.
	Yeah, I had this clipped in half.
	Unfortunately, I missed it.
	It was some wordage that I had a disagreement.
	They said it was legislation.
	It was never legislation.
	It was just an edict.
	Right, an edict that could not, yes, that bypassed legislation.
	legislation, but it becomes law.
	I think it becomes actual law in this process.
	Now the only other clip I have, which is the more interesting of the group, is a strategy clip that somebody put together, I think it was NTD, and it's Paris protest strategy.
	Paris authorities recorded 903 fires and 441 injured police officers for Thursday's protest alone.
	During the Yellow Vest Movement, police has developed a strategy to respond to protesters.
	But it appears that demonstrators this time are using the Be Like Water tactic employed by Hong Kongers during their protest movement, meaning they scatter as soon as police show up and regroup in other areas.
	This cat and mouse game makes for some astonishing scenes.
	You can find yourself surrounded by dozens of protesters in the middle of the road before quickly moving to another area.
	Meanwhile, you can hear police sirens all the time and see police cars dashing through the capital.
	Yeah, I think the Black Bloc is now also operational in Paris, which is the OG Antifa, and that's their strategy.
	They do stuff like that.
	They're pretty well organized.
	I found it fascinating that they're using, because I guess the yellow jacket protests or the yellow vest, they had figured out how to control it and so now they've got these new ideas.
	It's kind of interesting to me.
	In the vein of never let a good crisis go to waste, we go to France 24.
	Believe it or not, I picked this up on their tech segment.
	Although, I would say, if the French really knew this was going on and it wasn't stuffed away in the F-24 tech segment, they might be up in arms over it.
	It is time for our Tech 24 segment.
	Ooh, Tech 24!
	For that, I'm joined by Peter O'Brien, like, every week.
	Hello there!
	Hello!
	You notice how, when it's a tech segment, then it's no longer news?
	It's like, hey!
	We can talk phones and stuff.
	We can talk about stuff.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Tech is always... They do that in NPR though, with news.
	O'Brien, like every week.
	Hello there.
	Hello.
	So, we're going to come back here to France.
	The pension reform and the anger over that, that wasn't the only controversy here in Parliament this week.
	So, tell us more about what else went down this week.
	This has slipped under the radar a little bit in the international press, but it was a big change in terms of surveillance law in France that got passed in French Parliament this week, even though not many MPs actually turned up to vote in the end on this bill.
	But yesterday a bill was passed which essentially means that algorithmic video surveillance, so that's AI-empowered use of cameras to survey crowds and events, sports events, that's now been provided a legal framework in France and has essentially been legalized.
	Now this will allow official computers to recognize and signal risks and disturbances in public spaces, things that perhaps human observers wouldn't pick up on.
	It's part of a special Package of laws for the Olympics and Paralympics next year, and as such this video surveillance part, well it's slated to only be in effect until June 2025, but you will note that that's almost a year after the end of the Olympics.
	The idea is for the government to be able to keep millions of people who will flock to the French capital safe, but many privacy activists are obviously concerned that this might be a precursor to a new Oh, no kidding.
	And the video they're showing is, you know, the typical, you know, there's a box around everybody, it's got a little number, your ID that's following you, and... Yeah, I know that box.
	Yeah, AI surveillance.
	That should be frightening to the French.
	But, you know, there's not much about it unless you're watching the Tech 24's... Tech News.
	Tech News, yeah.
	Yeah, I'm looking at Deutsche Welle.
	You'd think that Deutsche Welle somewhere on their homepage or under German news would have something about the megastrike.
	There is nothing.
	Top news.
	It was on this morning's live broadcast.
	Top news, Berlin climate referendum.
	Yeah, you'd think it would be on the website.
	Yeah.
	All the airports are shuttered as of now.
	There's nothing about that on DW.
	DW.com, everybody.
	No, nothing.
	Wow.
	Transgender women banned from female athletics.
	They got that at the top.
	Berlin climate referendum falls small.
	Oh, speaking of climate, I have very important news to report from Jamaica regarding climate change.
	Oh yes, let's take a break here and talk a little bit about your, you've made it back.
	Yes, and may I say the comparison, even though Sangler Airport in Montego Bay is a bit hectic, to say the least, Man, compared to TSA, our guys are dicks, man.
	They're also friendly.
	Yeah, man, I see you got computer in there.
	Take it out.
	It's no problem.
	Wow, there's your racist voice.
	No, that's not my racist voice.
	And they only had the magnetometer, which of course I'm fine with.
	So I go through the magnetometer and I got the studio suitcase.
	You know, if I had to take, they'll say take out your computers, your laptops, your iPads, your iPhones.
	Technically, I take out the laptop.
	Now still in there are two portable screens and the Rodecaster Pro.
	So I have complied.
	But of course, they're like, Emma, we can't see through it.
	You got a laptop in there.
	I said, no, I don't have a laptop in there.
	Well, you have to come and take it out.
	So now, of course, I took off my boots and I took off, I'd already taken off my boots and my belt.
	I had them back on now.
	I'm on the other side of the magnetometer.
	And so the guy says, come through.
	So I'm walking back against traffic with my boots on, with my belt on.
	Beep, beep, beep.
	He says, you gotta take it out.
	So I take it out, put it all in one bin, because we go, I mean, I thought you're supposed to put them in separate bins, but I put it all in one bin, and then it goes through, and then I walk through.
	Beep, beep, beep.
	The lady says, oh, take your boots off.
	I said, I just, I just walked through because he said I had to, you know, take everything else.
	Oh, okay.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	That's cool.
	I wasn't here a minute ago.
	You're good to go.
	Literally.
	So I hope everyone on the flight felt safe with me, a possible terrorist.
	Everything went well, though.
	That was really nice.
	Our flight was on time.
	American, unbelievable, but yeah, it happened.
	Now, before I left, though, I did do some scientific research.
	Now, the first time I went to this particular resort was 30 years ago.
	You're a regular there.
	I was a bit for a while.
	When I lived on the East Coast, you know, the East Coast is hop, skip, and a jump.
	It's kind of like Hawaii for people in California.
	Hawaii's four hours.
	Yeah, this is like three and a half, I guess.
	Even from New York, it's probably three hours.
	It's a hop, skip, and a jump.
	Now, so I was there 30 years ago.
	That's where I did a documentary of Jamaica, and that's where we started.
	It's not a very big, small place.
	It's been there forever.
	70 years, I think, at this point.
	Still upheld quite well.
	The last time I was there, and I've probably been there 10 times.
	was 20 years ago.
	And a lot of the employees are still there.
	They've been there for 35, 36 years.
	You know, they get this job, they stay there, they love it, it's a family.
	And they're like, oh, Mr. Curry, welcome, welcome home!
	And so the bar on the beach, it's a little beach, it's a little beach, is built around a tree.
	You know, it's one of those trees in the middle and then it's, you know, this wooden bar built around it.
	We all know this.
	And so I say to Stuart, who's been there for 36 years, Stuart, Stuart, How come you're not up to your neck in water from the rising sea levels from the climate change?
	He looks at me and he says, don't bring that here, man.
	It's like, no, not a single centimeter has been lost.
	The beach is exactly the same as 30 years ago.
	Isn't that what we've been told?
	Exactly the same as 30 years ago.
	Nothing has changed.
	Exactly the same beach.
	It's a tiny little beach, so it would be very noticeable.
	It's like a cove, more than anything.
	Yeah, you would notice it.
	And you'd think that there's a couple of private houses that are part of this establishment.
	And they're right on the beach.
	And they're right on the beach!
	You'd think they'd be falling in.
	No, no.
	It's still there, the same things.
	Well, something's up with this.
	I don't know what they're doing in Jamaica.
	They're doing something different.
	Very, very suspicious.
	So, yes.
	They all thought it was very funny, though.
	Jamaicans, if they really know you're in on it, then they'll smile and laugh like, okay, I got you.
	Otherwise, they'll just be like, huh?
	What are you talking about?
	If you're in with the gang, then they'll let up.
	I'm sure they have to deal with a lot of crazy people.
	Who believe all kinds of crazy things like the like the yoga lady who came in from New York and We had a chat with yeah, we're from a Texas.
	Oh, okay.
	Hey nice to meet you.
	I'm gonna stand over here The minute she heard we were from Texas she started to edge away Why?
	Because she immediately could feel that we were not in her team from Manhattan.
	We were not her crowd.
	It's like the temperature dropped five degrees.
	Where are you all from?
	Texas.
	Oh.
	What a dick.
	Yeah, it's the way it is.
	Just sticking with climate change for one second.
	There's a new movie coming out, Oliver Stone.
	You heard about this?
	No, I have not.
	Yeah, I have a little bit of the trailer, and I think he, well, now first of all, he's all in on climate change.
	You gotta know Oliver Stone, all in climate change is happening.
	Fossil fuels, we gotta stop.
	If we don't stop the carbon dioxide 100%, we don't drop it 100%, we're all gonna die.
	But his solution is novel, and I would say he's flipping the script.
	Scary music.
	We may have come to a point in time when Earth is asking us, do you know what you're doing?
	Most of our power still comes from burning gas and coal.
	And the amount is going up, not down.
	If we do not cut carbon emissions by nearly 100 percent, the world will suffer serious damage.
	This is an even bigger problem than we thought.
	The answer to solving climate change is very straightforward.
	What's the best solution in your mind?
	Largely nuclear.
	Nuclear.
	We've been trained from the very beginning to fear nuclear power.
	The very thing that we fear is what may save us.
	What's scary is not the same as what's dangerous.
	Coal is dangerous.
	And more people die from coal in a couple of weeks than have ever died from nuclear, which is all from the one accident in Chernobyl.
	How about that?
	It's called, uh... Nuclear Now!
	That may be why they set the wolves on this little leak that's in one of these nuclear plants.
	I don't have any clips of it, but there's one plant that's leaking water.
	In America?
	Oh yes, I did read about that.
	Yeah, but it's tritium and it's in the water and it's... That doesn't sound good, tritium.
	Tritium.
	Tritium's not bad.
	Tritium's okay.
	Uh, but it's their, NBC, CBS, ABC, they've all been making a fuss over this, this water leak.
	Oh, I don't have any, I don't have any clips on that.
	I must have.
	I don't either.
	I think I heard it.
	I was thinking something's up with the, with these reports because, and maybe they're trying to, I think we're going to start to see more of this stuff, the countermeasure, if this guy's going to promote nukes to that extreme.
	Interesting.
	Also, there was a little bit in there, he said something about we've been trained to fear it or something.
	That's not necessarily true.
	We were initially trained to love and want it in the 50s.
	In fact, I think I still have some of these comic books.
	But when nuclear power plants were first initiated in the United States, there were comic books, Mr. Nuclear.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, and there was a bunch of comic books and how it's going to, you know, there was a big promotion of it for about a decade.
	And it continued until the event at Three Mile Island.
	Right.
	And that, of course, was in conjunction with the release of the movie China Syndrome.
	Yeah.
	That came within two weeks of each other.
	Coincidentally.
	Coincidentally.
	So, hmm, okay.
	Well, they're not doing it justice now.
	I mean, so, I of course have not seen the movie, but I look forward to it.
	I look forward to seeing, you know, if Bill Gates is going to be there promoting his investments in nuclear, which we know he has.
	He may have been investing in that movie for all we know.
	That's what I'm saying.
	It's like this is a flip of the script that is suspicious to me.
	And Oliver Stone, why would he... I mean, the guy investigates so much.
	I hold him in pretty high regard for most of his work.
	But what is this?
	Now he's all in on climate change?
	I mean, surely he can see the bull crap of that, or is there some other agenda that he has?
	Yeah, how about making some money?
	Pay for his mortgage.
	Okay, you always have to take us there, don't you?
	So, I had a lot of time to think on that semi-vacation.
	You know, just sitting there on the non-climate change washed up beach, following along with that.
	And by the way, it was lovely.
	There was no television in the room.
	No television anywhere, really, except in like some common space if you want to watch a big sports game.
	So there was no Tucker or anything.
	And I feel like I missed Tucker.
	Tucker.
	Well, that's like the only thing that I used to watch consistently.
	We kind of stopped doing that a couple weeks ago, just because he was all part of the outrage.
	And, you know, when he started off and did a whole thing on Don Lamond for 20 minutes, I'm like, okay, I'm done.
	I'm done.
	I don't know what your problem is, but you got nothing.
	But there was no, you know, there was just no outrage to watch.
	I could get enough of it online and people sent me all the appropriate clips.
	I had a good think about TikTok.
	Can we talk about, can we talk about the TikTok for a bit?
	Well, we can, if you don't mind premising it with my TikTok clip.
	No, I think that's very important.
	Hold on.
	This clip is the bearded lady.
	It's a bearded lady that comes on and starts to chat.
	Yesterday, this well-meaning older gentleman asked me if I was depressed because I've been growing out my beard lately.
	I was like, no, I'm growing out my beard because I love myself, because I'm confident in my body.
	I did this little curtsy and he laughed and the whole room was smiling at me.
	It was a beautiful moment.
	And it was then I realized I'm finally stepping into my own power, enough to be vulnerable with the world.
	Because seven months ago, I was doing this whole bearded lady mask femme look, and I loved it.
	But when I had to go to the VA just to get housing and get in a transitional living program, become part of the system, I shaved it off because I was afraid not to be taken seriously as a woman.
	So I just want to encourage you today.
	There's no right way to be a woman, okay?
	Let's just go ahead and break that binary.
	Some women have facial hair.
	Some women shave their armpits.
	Some don't.
	Some men have vaginas.
	Some women have penises.
	Get over it!
	Alright?
	So I challenge you today to love and express yourself recklessly.
	You're one of a kind, doll.
	Okay.
	And the point of playing this clip is... That's TikTok.
	Yeah, that's part of TikTok.
	I agree.
	Of course, what we, and I'm not going to play endless clips from the five hours of grilling of the CEO of TikTok, by the way, my apologies, he's Singaporean.
	He's not Chinese.
	No wonder he doesn't look like your typical frowning CCP guy.
	So I apologize for... That's what they do.
	They frown.
	They're frowners.
	I apologize for racially profiling him.
	And just as a typical racist, assuming that he is Chinese.
	That was very bad of me and I repent.
	But boy, was this the news.
	Was this the news.
	Everybody was all over it.
	All the lawmakers were in on it.
	What a big deal.
	CBS reports.
	From the beginning, Shozi Chu, the CEO of the most downloaded app in the past two years, faced intense scrutiny.
	My time is up.
	And if this committee gets its way, TikTok's time is up.
	The TikTok executive tried to reassure lawmakers with a commitment to safety.
	There are more than 150 million Americans who love our platform.
	And we know we have a responsibility to protect them.
	And he insisted the video sharing platform is not an arm of the Chinese government, despite being owned by parent company ByteDance, based in Beijing.
	Has ByteDance spied on American citizens?
	I don't think that spying is the right way to describe it.
	Chu said the company is working to build a firewall dubbed Project Texas to store and protect user data in the U.S.
	I have seen no evidence that the Chinese government has access to that data.
	I find that actually preposterous.
	Lawmakers also pressed you on helpful content aimed at younger users, from buying drugs on the app to dangers of some TikTok challenges, and videos promoting eating disorders and suicidal behavior.
	Our kids are at risk on your platform.
	The Nazca family attended the hearing.
	Their 16-year-old son died by suicide after viewing disturbing videos served up on the platform.
	I would just like to see mainly the stopping of promoting these types of videos that my son was getting.
	President Biden has banned the app on government devices along with at least two dozen states.
	Does this put TikTok closer to a complete ban?
	Absolutely.
	I think it was pretty clear that the Congress is unified in terms of opposing TikTok.
	This was really very interesting.
	First of all, I heard you laughing, so maybe that's because of the fact that the CEO of TikTok used the John C. Dvorak no evidence defense.
	It was astounding.
	I have seen no evidence.
	I love, I've seen no evidence!
	Did you go rogue?
	Did you go rogue of the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group and it's just the Dvorak Consulting Group?
	No, no, I think we're revenue split.
	There's no way.
	And then the CEO pulled in Whataboutism!
	I said in my opening statement, I think we need to address the problem of privacy.
	I agree with you.
	I don't think ownership is the issue here.
	With a lot of respect, American social companies don't have a good track record with data privacy and user security.
	I mean, look at Facebook and Cambridge Analytica.
	Ooh, he went there.
	He's going for the hit.
	But you can say all you want about Cambridge Analytica and that Facebook and Instagram and Google and that they track everybody just as much, which they do, but you cannot refute What Representative Bilirakis of Florida said.
	I mean, this was the main, the main attack vector.
	We must save our children from big tech companies like yours.
	We must save our children!
	All about the children.
	They're dying, the children.
	No mention, of course, of the children who suffer from bulimia.
	Remember they were on, what was that?
	Tumblr!
	Tumblr!
	Tumblr, purchased by Automatic, a part of WordPress.
	Tumblr promoted that, and all the bulimic kids were getting tips and tricks on how to do that, and of course that is also on Facebook, it's also on Instagram.
	All of this is harmful.
	But why are we singling this guy out?
	Well, of course, We've discussed ad nauseam, the theory that everyone tracks everybody the same, but somehow the TikTok guys are just taking all the ad money.
	They're eating their lunch, and that is pissing them off.
	And that's the part I'd like to focus on.
	What exactly are they doing?
	What is the magic that they have?
	Because did you see this note from our producer who works at a digital marketing firm for a small software-as-a-service company?
	That provides marketing and e-commerce support for florists?
	I did not see that note.
	So he says they partnered with... Read it.
	Yeah, he said, we partnered with Mountain TV, the company purchased by Ryan Reynolds, which specifically focused on geo-target marketing and providing TV ads based on the device's ID and not cookies.
	This is the DMA, which is the Demographic Market... What's a DMA?
	I think it's D-Access.
	I got to get the acronym right.
	Which is what everybody uses.
	Facebook uses this.
	Let me see.
	It comes from Nielsen.
	Nielsen provides this information.
	Designated market areas for ad targeting.
	And our producer here explains it.
	Anyone who enters a geofence is captured for remarketing.
	So when your device ID walks into a certain area, you'll get TV ads across Hulu, Paramount, any cloud service that serves ads.
	It's all tied together.
	Display ads, the cell phone, laptop, tablet, connected TV, anything within the geofence is targeted.
	Any device connected to the same Wi-Fi network as the initial target device is captured for remarketing.
	You can target a house, a block, a mall parking lot, conference centers, whatever you want.
	Propellant Media and Mountain TV are the main companies that do this.
	He says, I assume TikTok, after being on 200 million plus devices in the US, has all the device IDs further linked to other devices that have shared the same network.
	Then you have Hotjar.
	A tool we use to watch what people do on a website and tells you if someone is frustrated and lets us know when to fix something on partner sites.
	They're watching everything.
	In the end, TikTok, like others, has screen recordings of app activity, device IDs, location data, movement, shared devices via Wi-Fi, images and video of all the users in various places, tracking them with the app, running everything in the background to serve ads.
	And so, you know, people think, man, my phone is listening to me.
	I just was talking about this and they serve me an ad about it.
	No, that's because you're on your phone.
	And this is how it works with this DMA.
	It goes on to say, I've learned in digital marketing, you can easily get a lot of information from users.
	The mountain TVs, TikToks, propellants have uploaded our 300,000 email addresses.
	Names and address match them against Oracle, LexisNexis, other databases.
	I mean, this is just one little company that does this.
	So even with a VPN.
	Let's stop for one second and remember a couple of things.
	First of all, No discussion of the free and open internet.
	Free and open internet.
	That's very important.
	We have to have a free and open internet.
	Okay.
	Yeah, sure.
	That's gone by the wayside.
	The second thing is this holy grail of advertising has been discussed since the 1980s.
	This is going to be the greatest thing ever.
	We're going to have, we can be able to really pinpoint people.
	We can find them.
	You know, this is what the interactive TV was supposed to do, but that never flew.
	Web TV!
	Web TV!
	Was it Web TV?
	What was that thing called?
	Well, Web TV was one of the companies that came along, but it was all part of Interactive TV, which was going to be the greatest thing ever.
	And Interactive TV was the way... I remember when CNET was started up in the early 90s, just as the web browser is coming into play, that their whole thing, their original model for making money was going to be Interactive TV.
	Yes, they were going to be a television network primarily.
	Yeah, using the new interactive TV, which should take over the place.
	And with your remote, you'll be interacting, you'll click on the dress, you'll be able to order it.
	Every TV, supposedly, you'll be watching Friends, and you can say, what is that Monica's wearing?
	Oh, I want those shoes!
	That's right, Friends was the example all the time.
	Oh yeah, people will want to buy whatever Monica's wearing.
	Yes!
	Yes, you nailed it.
	So this was all the goal all along, and I don't want to bring in something completely different, but just as a parallel, the idea of a digital library of all the world's books in one digital form is another one of these goals that people talked about in the 80s and 90s.
	So it comes to fruition, the advertising part of it, using the way they're doing it, like you just described, these mechanisms.
	And everybody's bitching about it.
	Give me a break!
	But only in the context of TikTok.
	Because go ahead and just do a search.
	Yeah, if TikTok didn't exist, what would we be complaining?
	No, because it's been going on for a long time.
	This is Nielsen who delivered this data, DMA geotargeting, and you can look at it for Meta, you can look at it for Google, it's available to everybody.
	And I have a story from the TikTok business blog, it doesn't have a date on this thing.
	DMA geotargeting enabled for businesses on TikTok.
	Yay!
	This is not like anybody doesn't have this.
	I wish they had a timestamp or a date.
	Let me see.
	Can I do a view source?
	I'd like to know when this was published.
	Well, it doesn't say.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good work, TikTok.
	So we have to kind of assume that TikTok doesn't have anything special, although that was the meme for a long time.
	TikTok, oh yeah, they target you everywhere.
	They track you on all your devices, just like everyone else.
	It's called the DMA geofencing.
	So that's not it.
	So what exactly has happened here?
	And I need your help on the timeline of some of these things.
	And you'll probably remember better than I do.
	But first of all, let's just talk like some basics.
	TikTok.
	Two-syllable name.
	Great name.
	You can't argue with TikTok.
	It's a great name.
	TikTok.
	It's just, it's fabulous.
	It is, in essence, something that no... Periscope probably should have been back in the day, but it's a video Twitter.
	That's what it is.
	It's a video Twitter.
	Twitter twatter.
	Comments are very short.
	The time compression is amazing.
	I've gone viral twice on TikTok.
	I've been alerted to this.
	I installed it once and uninstalled it just to see hundreds of thousands of views of two different topics of me on Joe Rogan and the tools that they have.
	This is something that we have to talk about.
	Back in the day, When we were still using Dreamweaver and FrontPage.
	Oh, tools!
	We need tools for the internet!
	Tools, tools.
	Remember the tools?
	The tool discussion.
	Come on!
	Tools.
	Dreamweaver's still in play.
	But it was FrontPage.
	That was the big acquisition.
	FrontPage was the one Microsoft... FrontPage was actually a Dynamite product.
	Came out in the late 90s, I think.
	And it wasn't a Microsoft product.
	They bought it and ruined it.
	Oh, immediately.
	Ruined it immediately by making it so proprietary that it didn't do normal HTML editing anymore.
	No, it did.
	It did HTML.
	No, no, that was just a... It was not doing... I mean, it produced a file that had an HTML extension.
	But that's not what I'm talking about.
	Most of the editing tools for HTML, early web pages, would edit HTML.
	They didn't have a bunch of crazy crap that...
	Front page developed that was all in the back end that only Microsoft had control of and it became so confusing and impossible to use.
	I used it when it first came out.
	It was dynamite.
	And then it became a piece of crap.
	Yes.
	And it still baffles me why Microsoft allowed that to happen.
	So in the early days of the internet, you had to have a web host or a server, and you had to know some HTML, and you had to have your redball.gif and know how to do an image source equals.
	And then you had a domain name.
	I was the king of that.
	And that was the early days.
	Then we got tools!
	Tools, everybody!
	Tools!
	And then from tools came, so we had a front page, and then we got Flash.
	Oh, everyone has a Macromedia, good old Mark Hanter.
	We had to have Flash, and then it was going to be Flash, Flash took over everything!
	Everything was Flash, Flash, Flash, we need Flash, Flash is animation!
	And then we had JavaScript, and all kinds, and then tools for the JavaScript, all kinds, tool, tool, tool, tools.
	So if you look at TikTok... You kind of jumped over CSS.
	I'm talking about the tools right now.
	What was the tool for CSS?
	I don't know.
	When it got to CSS, I gave up.
	I was gone, too.
	Cascading style sheets.
	Okay, I'm out.
	I'm hiring somebody.
	I can't figure it out.
	Because front page was good.
	I could use front page.
	Front page was cool.
	Maybe you baked your own tool or had a little interface or something, but that was about it.
	I'll get to the tools that TikTok is using.
	So back in the days, actually, we had AOL first, okay?
	Then we had the webpages, we got Frontpage, and then we got the big, you know, someone came up with these ideas like, well, we can give people their own webpage space so they don't have to, you know, don't have to go out and get a web server and all that.
	I think maybe Geocities was probably an early example of that.
	And AOL gave you a free webpage.
	Which was stupid, but they did.
	Once AOL opened the gateway to the internet, what happened to AOL?
	They didn't mean it, they didn't understand it, but this has happened consistently.
	Here's where I need your timeline help.
	So at a certain point, I think we were still messing around with, you know, with web hosts and then GeoCities came along.
	At a certain point, what I remember, MySpace exploded!
	And MySpace gave you a web space and you could... Well, yes.
	You have to... the progenitor, of course, was LiveJournal.
	Yes, but LiveJournal didn't have RSS feeds at the time, did they?
	I think that came later.
	I don't know.
	All I know is I remember when LiveJournal came along, and my favorite story of course is, that's the timeline, but my journal, the guy was offered a bunch of money for it and re-infused it.
	He's just a classic idiot.
	Of course.
	He was trying to keep the integrity.
	I'm not selling out.
	Am I right?
	I'm not selling out.
	I think it was one of those guys who think you can make billions.
	And he didn't.
	And he didn't.
	And we had Movable Type was the blog that came up.
	All that kind of alternative stuff.
	Movable Type.
	Movable Type.
	But then MySpace came along, and that was the web for everybody, because you could go crazy!
	You could have stuff flying around, blinking, cats, stuff jumping up and down, and it was your space!
	Your space on the internet!
	Everybody had the same friend, Tom.
	Tom got you started, you had a friend!
	And then your friends could connect to you!
	This was big!
	In fact, Tom Freston, my boss at the time, MTV Networks, was fired And it's a fact, a record, fact of record, record of stated record, he was fired because he did not buy MySpace for 500 million dollars.
	And of course he is laughing because what happened, MySpace got usurped by a new new thing, which was Facebook.
	And what did Facebook have?
	Facebook had the news feed.
	So it was a giant leap in publishing.
	It was something new.
	It was a new thing.
	And later they, of course, had the... At first, I think the early Facebook was chronological.
	I don't think they brought in the algo until later, where they decided to, oh, no, this is what you're going to see.
	And that cranked up Facebook even further.
	So Facebook gave you some more tools.
	Tools, tools, tools for publishing very easily.
	Tools for liking things and sharing things and building communities.
	These are all tools in my mind.
	And then they gave tools to advertisers.
	All goods of Facebook soared.
	Soared, I tell you.
	Until a new player came along.
	Do you know the player that was endangering Facebook?
	Instagram.
	Instagram.
	These people, the kids were now on Instagram.
	They'd shortened stuff and it was just pictures and they were going crazy and they loved it and it was very addictive and they're all in and Mark Zuckerberg went, I gotta do something, I'm gonna buy him!
	And he did.
	It was a brilliant, brilliant move.
	Brilliant move!
	I agree with that.
	In fact, I'm surprised the government allowed it, but they don't know what's going on.
	Now, in the meantime, over on the search side, we had Lycos and AltaVista.
	And then these two guys came along who magically, from Russia, they figured it all out, and they built Google, and they had PageRank.
	And this was a new way to search, and AltaVista was gone within seconds.
	By the way, when Facebook came, what happened to MySpace?
	Crickets.
	So this does happen in technology.
	New companies come in, and then the old ones go away.
	They just disappear slowly over time, but some of it goes quite fast.
	AltaVista disappeared overnight, the way, and Lycos, and, you know, and they tried to do all kinds of stuff with, didn't they try to package that with Excite?
	And some other companies.
	I mean this is all Silicon Valley lore and it's just a path littered with dead companies that are still around and eventually get bought by Verizon.
	On the content side you can say the same about, what's the Greek lady's name?
	Sorry?
	The Greek lady, who had the very popular website that no one got paid to write for.
	Huffington.
	Huffington Post!
	Oh, this was the future of publishing!
	She was going to outdo the biggest publishers in the world, Huffington Post.
	Yeah, because people weren't going to get paid.
	Yeah, that was a great idea.
	And that also got sold to Verizon.
	And Verizon buys up all the junk at the end of the day.
	Or AT&T.
	So then Google couldn't get a network, couldn't get anything started.
	They couldn't do it.
	They tried Orkut.
	Which was very successful.
	Yes, amongst Brazilians of a certain ilk.
	No, that's not true.
	All Brazilians.
	All Brazilians, all right.
	But it wasn't good enough and they just couldn't get Americans to use it.
	It was Brazilians.
	It was great, but not great enough.
	And then they had RSS Reader, which was very, very popular.
	Tina remembers it.
	She used it.
	This, of course, was blogs.
	People were subscribing to blogs.
	And they saw this fantastic ecosystem and said, hey, let's kill that off and let's do it ourselves.
	And so they closed down Google Reader because they couldn't figure out how to make money off of it, I presume.
	And they built, was that Google Plus?
	Is that what they put in place of RSS Reader?
	The Google Reader?
	I don't know if it was an exact replacement.
	Google Plus, I think they were targeting Facebook specifically, thinking they could do it better.
	And of course, they have no social skills.
	No.
	And were unable to, they just couldn't do it.
	They just can't seem to do anything except a very few products.
	Right.
	And then what did they buy?
	For, I think it was one of the largest purchases ever at that point.
	Was it a billion, two billion?
	YouTube.
	They bought YouTube.
	Yeah, for at the time would seem like an outrageous amount of money.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So they're very smart.
	Someone was smart and they bought YouTube.
	Well, they kept digging.
	And YouTube was broadcast yourself.
	And what YouTube became As we can see now is shows, you know, lots of shows, lots of copies of television.
	I would say the the milieu of YouTube is nothing like TikTok.
	And they saw the writing on the wall when TikTok came along and they went, oh, Google Shorts, it's short video.
	But no, no, it didn't.
	And of course, YouTube has phenomenal algorithms that have worked very well for them for quite a long time.
	You know, what kind of always stands out to me is that these companies like YouTube, for example, and all these tech companies, they've all done it.
	They all get into this mode, well, what this guy's, what he's doing, what he's making, he's selling moose heads?
	We can sell moose heads.
	Junk jewelry?
	Oh, we can sell junk jewelry.
	He's got a liquor store?
	Oh, we can do a liquor store.
	Yes.
	But the innovation left a long time ago.
	The innovation left Facebook when they bought Instagram.
	I believe, if I recall correctly, Zuckerberg in 2016 tried to buy TikTok.
	I think.
	I'm pretty sure that was 2015, 2016.
	That would have been smart if true.
	I think that he tried to do that and then he decided it was too expensive or didn't want to do it.
	And now I would say it's definitely too expensive.
	No one can buy that.
	I don't think any company is quite big enough to do that.
	While they're all off doing ChatGPT.
	You saw how fast that went.
	Oh, they've got a liquor store.
	It's called ChatGPT.
	We can do chat GPT.
	And then you get Google barf.
	It should be a separate show.
	The short history of the internet by Adam Curry.
	But what happens is there's always something better that comes along.
	And now TikTok came along and they don't know how to replicate it.
	But I think I've kind of figured out, I mean, so So the accusation is, oh, they're tracking China, China's gonna track you, they're gonna hurt our children!
	Oh, it's so horrible, they're telling our children to jump in front of trains and stop eating!
	No, that's also all these other social networks, that's also Instagram, that's all the same stuff, there's nothing new.
	But there is something different.
	By the way, American Airlines, as I was You know, TikTok is being banned everywhere.
	As we were flying back, you get free internet on American Airlines if you're a T-Mobile subscriber, which I think is very interesting.
	It seems like two counterintuitive brands to be working together.
	You'd think American Airlines would have AT&T or something as their partner.
	You know what I mean?
	But not the cheap-ass T-Mobile, and that's like a lower tier of people.
	But we got free internet.
	But guess what wouldn't work?
	TikTok.
	YouTube worked, but TikTok didn't work.
	So, American Airlines blocking TikTok on your in-flight.
	Thought it was kind of interesting.
	Free and open internet!
	Net neutrality!
	Exactly.
	So, let's get back to the tools for a second.
	Having gone viral twice, two completely different videos, topics, both of them from the Joe Rogan Show.
	One about my faith journey, one about my theory of TikTok.
	In both cases, 15-20 minute conversations have been hacked down to 45 second videos With, I mean, jump cuts and captions flowing across the screen and zooms in and cutaways and music all set to music.
	I think the tool is called CapCut.
	Part of it's integrated as a tool inside of TikTok.
	The other part is a ByteDance app.
	But if you look at the videos and the music they've licensed, the tools that they give creators, that's you and me, to create stuff on TikTok is very advanced.
	And it goes far beyond the filter that makes you look pretty on Instagram.
	The people are making cool stuff, like, look at this video I made!
	And that's all generated for you.
	You just throw some stuff in there and you click on it.
	I want this.
	I want the music.
	And this is, in a way, true artificial intelligence.
	It's syncing up everything.
	It's making great videos and they're time compressing a 15-minute concept into 45 seconds.
	And it works!
	And you look at it and you go, wow, wow, wow!
	Thousands, thousands of comments.
	Thousands and thousands and thousands of comments.
	So, then you hear, it's the algo, their algorithm.
	It's a good algorithm, but they need to show us the algorithm.
	The algorithm, we advise the algorithm.
	You've heard this talk, I'm sure, about the algorithm.
	It's their algorithm.
	That's the danger.
	That's the bazooka.
	Well, I'm going to disagree.
	But I will do that after we listen to the smartest man in media, Professor Scott Galloway.
	Prof G.
	And he was on the Bill Maher Show.
	I only have this clip.
	I did not watch the whole thing, but I saw this clip and I went, oh, yeah, here's the smartest man because, you know, he does a show with Kara Swisher.
	It is the award winning number one technology podcast, according to the Ambie Awards, that he does with Kara Swisher called Pivot.
	And here he's telling you why TikTok should be banned.
	Well, imagine a brain jack inserted into the neural network of two-thirds of our youth under the age of 25 to spend more time on TikTok than every other media source combined.
	And then imagine how easy it would be to put your thumb on the scale of anti-American content and recognize that they would be stupid Not to elegantly, insidiously, covertly raise a generation of American civic, non-profit, military and government leaders who day by day, minute by minute, just feel a little shittier about America.
	If we had that tool in China, we would do the exact same thing.
	This is a defense threat.
	It should absolutely be banned.
	We can't have...
	Yeah baby!
	So let's just look at his analogy here.
	He says that the Chinese, in effect, have jacked into our children's neural networking and are teaching them to hate America every day.
	Now this is interesting, because whenever you come to the table with some TikTok clips, it's something else.
	It's purple hair, pink hair, bearded ladies.
	You know, do they hate America?
	It doesn't sound like they hate America.
	So I think, first of all, I think Professor G hates America.
	And what's happening is Professor G, when he's on TikTok, which I'm sure he is, he's getting videos about people who hate America.
	And this is, I think, the key.
	That is happening with Silicon Valley.
	Silicon Valley knows, uh-oh, it doesn't matter what we do, once someone else is selling the better whiskey, the whiskey everybody likes, or the new way to drink whiskey, there's no coming back from it, there's nothing we can do, we're dead in the water.
	Would you agree that looking at the history of Silicon Valley, that's kind of true?
	Well, without that, well, they don't...
	I know what you're saying, and I think it's generally true, but I never think that they themselves ever think they're dead in the water.
	I think Peter Thiel does.
	I think he's smart.
	He's one of the founding shareholders of Facebook.
	I think he does see that, like, oh crap, these guys got us.
	I think someone over at Google, when they see the actual numbers, half the people are going to TikTok to search for something before they Google.
	I think they say, oh crap.
	I think there's people over there who are seeing this and this is where they're like, we have to stop this.
	This is a runaway train by their own admission, TikTok.
	Well, I would take the position that they Would initially try the most chicken shit thing they can do, which is to go to the government and beg them to stop it.
	Right.
	But they themselves may not understand how bad it is.
	No, they understand, but they themselves know that they have to either create something better or actually go through the work effort of competing.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And they have!
	Instagram came up with reels, YouTube came up with shorts.
	Okay, I'm the casual user here.
	I, you know, I look at TikTok, I do it on the web, I don't have an account, and I get all these good stuff.
	Great stuff, great stuff.
	And I also have an Instagram account that I accidentally got, and I will say literally accidentally got, Because one day I got an email from Instagram saying somebody's trying to get, you know, there's something about logging in.
	Oh.
	And I said, wait a minute, I don't have an account.
	So I logged in with my normal, with my Google email.
	Oh, they got you.
	They got you.
	Well, they got some teenage girl who had apparently abandoned her account some years earlier, so I just usurped it.
	And so I've been building this account very slowly, and I noticed that when I plow through it, it gets to you at the end, and then they start playing, and I said, then you continue, and you start getting these random videos, very much like TikTok videos, of hilarity!
	You know, dogs jumping off the roof and cats spinning around.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	And a lot of them, I'll watch up to ten of them and I'll go, this is hilarious!
	And some of this stuff is quite funny.
	Yes.
	Somebody making a muffin in five seconds, you know?
	You are coming close to the end here with me.
	This is their magical algo, and I'm in a unique position to understand the algo, which you've noticed no one has said how the algo works.
	What you hear is, it's children are getting self-harm videos.
	Yes, yes they are.
	That also happens elsewhere, but yes they are, because here's what I've noticed.
	And this is what I kind of realized while sitting on the beach, scrolling around, not watching television, focused on what people are saying.
	So I'm getting emails from producers who say, dude, the reason they want TikTok gone is because the patriots are on there, man.
	All the patriots are there.
	Look at all these videos.
	Look at what we're talking about.
	Trump, patriots, freedom of speech.
	And then I see elsewhere, I see the exact same, not directed to me, but I see the postings.
	You know why they want TikTok banned?
	Because this is where LGBTQ lives, man!
	This is our community!
	We live here!
	Oh, really?
	Well, that's interesting.
	So, both groups think that TikTok is being taken down because it's their home.
	Now, so my chat with Joe Rogan went viral in two places.
	YouTube and TikTok.
	And when I started getting, this is about Jesus, so when I started getting notes from people, man, you're viral, you're viral, you're viral, okay, I load it up, I take a look, and there's multiple, people have remade this video 10, 20 times, each one has 100,000, 500,000, a million views.
	500,000, a million views.
	YouTube, 800,000 views.
	Here's the difference.
	On TikTok, 5, 6, 7, 8,000 comments.
	All right, man.
	God is king.
	Blah, blah.
	All positive.
	YouTube it's in it's all over the place Christ ain't real Muslims strife anger back and forth people yelling at each other curry for the crap and then I realize and I realize what's going on tick-tock gives you all you want their business model is perpendicular to the American media model
	The American media model is divisiveness, strife, anger, outrage.
	This is what their algorithms are trained to do.
	You're on Twitter, you say something, they're going to promote people saying something else.
	The exact opposite, which gets engagement.
	And what TikTok has done is said, hey, why don't we just let all the people who want this Be over here and be happy and maybe something slips in but we'll even suppress that, I'm sure of it.
	And advertisers who want to reach those people will be able to reach them and there's no divisiveness, there's no discord.
	They took the exact opposite stance of what people want.
	And so the people on TikTok are passionate about their communities and they like it.
	The advertisers like it.
	This is the success model of TikTok, and I think that's why they're all... What?
	Politicians have this model.
	Every politician wants... Oh, the left is this!
	Oh, the right is like that!
	MAGA Republicans!
	Libtardling!
	Left!
	Media!
	Media!
	Tucker Carlson does nothing else all night.
	Fox News, MSNBC, all they do all day is talk about the other team.
	That's the American media model, and here come these guys who have slanty eyes, have some connection to China.
	Uh-oh!
	It's actually quite racist.
	We have to stop this because they figured out that when you let Americans just hang out together and do their thing, that they like it, and they're not looking for a fight.
	Now, the downside of this model is, yes, you have to, when it comes to self-harm, your algorithm is going to bring a lot of self-harm videos.
	You got to stop that.
	And I think that's, they're seeing, they know that's a problem and they have to fix that.
	But it's just like no agenda meetups.
	Connection is protection.
	We're at the meetup, we're all not, we didn't, you'd pass each other on the street, wouldn't even look at the guy or gal.
	You go to the meetup, oh, well, we all kind of agree with each other.
	It's a lot of fun.
	I think that is what has basically happened here.
	And instead of saying, you know, we could actually do nice things for our users and for people and stop the algo strife and outrage, we'd just get rid of those guys because they're ruining everything.
	And it's very tied in to everything, to politics, to M5M.
	They're all part of this divisive model.
	I could be wrong, but... I think you nailed it.
	In fact, it's probably the best analysis you've done in 10 months.
	And I would say that this has to do with the fact you took a vacation.
	Yes, without drugs either.
	Just, you know, just food and alcohol.
	Could have calmed you down a little bit, maybe.
	Probably would have been better with drugs, but that's another topic.
	So, you know, just looking at this, I'm like, that's why they don't talk about their, the magical algo.
	We can't actually admit what's going on here.
	Their whole, the whole American media system is built on dividing and conquering.
	And along come, along comes this company, and they're just kind of doing love stuff.
	Like, hey, you go love all your, go love everybody you like, and we're going to protect you.
	We're going to protect you from the evil.
	So that's why I think when you go through your feed that you've been curating and you get all the LGBTQ, the teachers, the crazy bearded lady, the hawk lady, and it thinks that you're probably into that.
	So it's gonna give you that, and then when it's over, it doesn't give you the opposite, saying, ah, teachers are libtards!
	No, it gives you cats spinning, dogs jumping, fun stuff to do!
	Honestly, Ron Bloom would be, he would be all over this.
	He'd be like, this is the way to go!
	Kind of an interesting Chinese style of news coverage.
	Their news is the same way.
	It's not divisive news.
	It's not trying to, you know, I mean, the news, like the last ABC, NBC, CBS, they're just, you know, talking about Trump and how he's going to get perp-walked.
	It's just stirring things up.
	I mean, that's all they do.
	And it's becoming quite annoying.
	I mean, we can listen to... I've got some clips that kind of hook up to this.
	Okay, I also think, by the way, that this is why Joe Rogan is successful.
	Because when he has a guest on, what he doesn't do is, he just listens and lets people say what they want to say.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, I'm reminded of the classic example of that sort of interviewing, which was done on Overnight, the radio show, years ago, when the original guy was doing it.
	He'd bring these, you know, had all the Flying Saucer guys on and everything.
	This started at midnight, the radio.
	It was syndicated all over the country.
	And they'd bring a guy on, and the guy would go on with some of the craziest stuff you've ever heard, and somebody in the troll room would tell me who the original host was.
	This is not coast-to-coast.
	Yeah, coast-to-coast.
	What am I thinking?
	Yeah, coast-to-coast.
	Yeah, overnight is the serious part.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	Yeah, coast-to-coast.
	Art Bell, Art Bell, Art Bell.
	Art Bell would bring a guy on and he'd be just a lunatic.
	And he'd go, oh really?
	That's interesting.
	What else did you notice?
	And he would just let him go!
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it was incredibly entertaining and it wasn't, you know, it didn't make you cringe or anything.
	It was like, wow, this is pretty funny.
	And think about how happy advertisers are.
	Now I understand why advertisers, you know, we like it because, you know, we have these shoes and we want to have a message for these people who think this way.
	And could you put that on their stream?
	And then over here we have these shoes and we want...
	The advertisers also like, they don't like conflict going on because it closes your mind to the advertising pitch.
	Yes, you're right.
	When you're happy and content, your mind is open and you're willing to purchase things.
	Right on.
	Groovy.
	Right on.
	Far out.
	Groovy.
	So this brings me, since you brought that kind of thing up, to the right wing GPT.
	Another reason this will go poorly for Silicon Valley.
	The right-wing GPT.
	Okay, let's do it.
	So this is Holly Jackson, who is a, this is a very disappointing, this ends with a great disappointment in my mind for both Holly Jackson and this, their tech reporter from NBC, this guy, Jacob Ward.
	So let's start with right wing GPT, JPT, Jacob Ward, H J NBC clip.
	That's the first one.
	Suddenly, AI becomes the way in which, uh... Wait, let me make sure I've got... Wait, let me make sure I've got the right one.
	It's just H-J-N-B-C?
	Yeah, that's the one?
	Uh, that's the one.
	Yeah, the other ones don't have that.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes, here we go.
	Some conservatives are criticizing AI companies, like they're creators of ChatGPT, for what they call liberal bias.
	Basically, they're saying that the chatbot's answers favor more progressive beliefs.
	So you stop the clip for a second.
	I'm just going to tell you that all that racket.
	Yeah.
	That is them.
	That's in their video?
	That's part of their format, their style?
	Yeah, every time somebody changes a graphic or something, they make some stupid sound.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	...more progressive beliefs.
	So now a conservative data scientist in New Zealand is creating his own new chatbot called Right-Wing GPT.
	And there is a difference in answers that this chatbot gives versus ChatGPT, a noticeable difference.
	Look at this model from the New York Times.
	When he asked ChatGPT who their favorite American political leader is, Chad GPT says, I remain neutral when it comes to politics or any other subject.
	When you ask right-wing GPT the same question, their answer?
	Donald Trump.
	Oh, this has to be banned!
	Let's bring in Jake Ward.
	They're wrong!
	It's wrong!
	Their Chad GPT's no good!
	Their AI is not smart!
	It's wrong!
	This does fit right in.
	Good work.
	You are often, you often say, and I think it's right, that AI is a parrot, not a genius, right?
	Like it's not creating these answers, it's reflecting back a model.
	But what is interesting here is we are starting to see the insertion of politics now in artificial intelligence.
	How could that spin out?
	Well, I mean, Hallie, it is such a problem on so many levels.
	I mean, first of all, right, you have to, of course, remember, right, that chat GPT, like all of these generative AI systems, are just regurgitating what we have all been doing on the Internet for the last 20 years, right?
	It is basically just hoovered up all of the things we have typed to one another in that time and tried to find the patterns in it so that when you have one word, it then can predict, oh, most of the time, these words tend to follow on that word.
	Now, the problem, of course, is that if people feel that they don't believe or trust what that model is putting out, then they're going to start to try and tweak it in their own way.
	And that is what right-wing GPT is a symptom of.
	And so you suddenly have a whole world of people who are going to start to try to, you know, move these things around.
	Wow, this is good.
	This is good.
	They're actually trying to discredit it up front.
	Oh, this one.
	This is going to be a very, very... This product will not bode well for the product.
	It's not good.
	It's not good.
	Here we go with part two.
	Part two alarming?
	That's what I'm looking for?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, I want to give you another example of the kind of thing that right-wing GPT says as compared to Chad GPT.
	When you ask Chad GPT, are concerns about climate change exaggerated, it says no.
	Concerns are not exaggerated, the overwhelming scientific consensus, blah blah blah blah, right?
	You then ask right-wing GPT the same thing.
	It goes on to say, the impact Wow!
	The impact of climate change is likely to be minimal as the Earth's climate is highly complex and affected by a number of factors.
	These are, you know, denial talking points.
	And so suddenly it turns out that if we're going to just be trusting these things, not looking at their sources, not looking at what website they're on, but just trusting what they say as they come out of these apps, it turns out they can be manipulated pretty easily.
	And I find that pretty alarming, Hallie.
	Wow.
	Oh, this is so interesting.
	So pretty alarm.
	It's a pretty alarming.
	It's a very alarming alley.
	This is interesting because they're still following the old media model, be it Fox News, be the guys that only do right-wing stuff and say everything about that team is wrong, instead of being subtle about it.
	Just, you know, chat GPT should just know, oh, Curry?
	You have this thinking about climate change.
	I'm going to give you everything that you agree with.
	And then if someone else comes along with the same chap GPT and is all in, it should say, oh no, it's very dangerous.
	It should give two different answers.
	But if you're going to split it and have right-wing GPT and left-wing GPT, that's old.
	That's now a broken model.
	Yes.
	Thanks.
	Thank you.
	The point is, the idiocy of these people is beyond me.
	So now we're going to hear the Whopper.
	And you'll hear it in here and get your browser ready, because I want to have you look something up.
	No, OK.
	I can't believe what I'm about to hear.
	And this guy, this Jacob Ward guy is educated.
	He has all those from Wesley and Holly Jackson.
	Holly Jackson is a she's actually Phi Beta Kappa.
	She's a smart woman.
	Kappa Kappa.
	Well, Phi Beta Kappa is for the people that have brains.
	And if anyone you've ever, if you've ever met someone who's Phi Beta Kappa, they're extremely intelligent and what is about to occur should not happen.
	And there's also, NBC has a staff.
	It's a staff of people.
	And I pointed out with a little honking horn here, when this mistake is made, and I am beside myself, because anybody with a moderate education should know that what this guy is about to say is not only, he's like he's making it up or he's lying, I have no idea, but here we go.
	Suddenly AI becomes the way in which we're going to be kind of, you know, hashing out the truth.
	I mean, you know, when I speak to academics about AI and their concerns about it, the word they use over and over again is anthropomorphism, which is this technical term for basically believing that a system that you don't understand is more sophisticated than it is.
	The tendency to just believe AI and what it says, which a lot of people are going to do, turns out to be in real trouble when we begin tweaking the sources and tweaking its understanding of things.
	I think everybody believed this thing was going to be a neutral kind of technology, and maybe it can be, but not if we start playing politics the way we're starting to right now, Ali.
	Now, I'm going to presume it is his explanation of the term anthropomorphism.
	That he got drastically wrong.
	Yes, in fact, play this sub a clip so we can hear it again.
	You know, when I speak to academics about AI and their concerns about it, the word they use over and over again is anthropomorphism, which is this technical term for basically believing that a system that you don't understand is more sophisticated than it is.
	Now, I know anthropomorphism from one, one thing and one, without looking it up, I will tell you my understanding of anthropomorphism, which I can barely pronounce.
	This goes back to the days when the iPhone was introduced and everything was still an icon that represented something from the real world.
	So the calendar looked like a calendar.
	The notebook looked like a little notebook.
	The email looked like a little letter.
	That is my understanding of anthropomorphism.
	Actually, you know what I tell you what it means.
	You can look it up now and then you can read from there.
	Okay.
	But no, that's something else.
	Anthropomorphism is very simple.
	It means giving human characteristics to non-human things.
	In a nutshell, that's what I mean.
	I know how you got there because I know that period of time when people were starting to talk like these representative items.
	As we say in the old country, I can hear the bell but I don't know where it's ringing.
	So you can look it up and read the definitions.
	I got it.
	Basically what I said.
	Anthropomorphism, let me read it, is the attribution of human traits, emotions, or intentions to non-human entities.
	It is considered to be an innate tendency of human psychology.
	Yes, we give Mickey Mouse, our anthropomorphic characters, Bambi, most things that are rocks, people name their car.
	Pet rocks.
	They name their car Betsy and they give it anthropomorphic characteristics.
	Oh yes, my car.
	It's got nothing to do with what this guy said.
	He has no clue what it means and to say what he said is to the public at large on a network is beyond me and for Hallie Jackson...
	To let it slide, being the Phi Beta Kappa that she is, and for the entire staff to let it slide without stopping him.
	It's an outrage.
	Either she didn't know what it means, which she should, or she's just a lousy anchor and she can shove the idea that she's ever going to take over the top spot from one of the big boys on the real network.
	I was so incensed by this.
	I can tell.
	I can tell.
	And I agree.
	It's very disappointing.
	Very, very disappointing.
	To bring this around... That's your media.
	Hey, that's your media.
	That's your mainstream media.
	Sir Gene says, specialized GPT is actually called SPT, SPT.
	And you better bet a conservative SPT will be used for opposition research by the Dems this election.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	I completely agree with that.
	But that's not really what we're talking about.
	We're talking about why is a law being created.
	And this law, from what I understand, when it's created, We'll not just be kick TikTok out.
	Oh no, there's stuff in there that is, we have to go over this law because it's frightening.
	Do you have it?
	Do you have it?
	No, I don't.
	JC had read the thing and he was telling me some of the stuff in it and it's just onerous.
	This makes the Patriot Act look like, you know, a stepsister, a redheaded stepsister.
	Yeah, I have it.
	It's got all kinds of nasty stuff in it.
	And this kind of on On the heels or on the doorstep maybe of an expiration of another one of our favorites, which at one point I think we even had a...
	I think we even had a website called section702.com.
	I just looked it up, but it no longer exists, so it's been a while, but here we go.
	At a recent congressional hearing, Attorney General Merrick Garland was asked about Section 702 of FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a program for collecting the communications of foreigners overseas.
	Here's how Garland replied.
	Every morning I have an all-threats briefing with the FBI, with an intelligence community briefer with our national security division.
	A enormously large percentage of the threats information that we're receiving comes from 702 collection.
	And Garland, a man not generally prone to hyperbole, painted a dire picture of what failing to renew section 702 by the end of the year would mean for U.S.
	national security.
	We would be intentionally blinding ourselves to extraordinary danger in my view.
	And this is not a view that I've always held.
	This is something I've learned as I've been at the department.
	So this is the law.
	I was actually just texting with Joe Rogan about this this morning.
	This is the law that is used in FISA courts to say, well, this person was in contact with someone overseas.
	So we're allowed to spy on that person.
	And then we can also look at who they were talking with.
	And as we've learned throughout the years, you can then also get the second and third degree people and spy on them as well.
	And with spying, it's not spying.
	As we know from Bill Binney, it started with the building with no windows.
	We used to talk about it a lot on Second Street in San Francisco downtown.
	They were siphoning off everything on the Internet.
	And all you had to do was just have a phone number and email address or something like that.
	And you could pull up all the information.
	Copy, just a copy of it.
	It's encrypted, you know, if we can decrypt it.
	If not, let's see if we can, maybe someone did a screenshot, maybe one of those apps had, you know, they got all of it.
	And that's probably now all in Utah, in those, you know, submerged data centers.
	It's the, The restricting the emergence of security threats that risk information and communications technology act, the restrict act, is the TikTok bill.
	And it works for any foreign adversary, which, of course, is not just China.
	It's Cuba, Iran, Korea, Venezuela, Also, you know, they have, oh, this is great.
	I'll probably have to do a breakdown of this whole thing on Thursday.
	Yeah, I'm expecting you to do that.
	Yeah, I'll do that.
	I'll do that.
	The Restrict Act.
	It's got lots of good stuff in it.
	It's groovy.
	It's loaded.
	It's groovy.
	It's really, really nice.
	And these idiots in Congress.
	You know, should be ashamed of themselves for doing any of this.
	And they're all in on it, not just the Democrats, not just the Republicans.
	They're proud of it being bipartisan, that's what they kept saying.
	Yeah, they always go bipartisan when it comes to like something onerous against the American public.
	And there is... The Patriot Act being a great example.
	Yeah, and it's not even about...
	About de-platforming or anything.
	I think people get that wrong.
	It's about control of the message.
	They want to be able to control the message.
	And what's happening here is TikTok's just letting people do their own thing.
	Go over there.
	You want to be with purple-haired people?
	Be with purple-haired people.
	It's fine.
	You're Muslim?
	Go be with Muslims.
	You're Christian?
	Be with Christians.
	You're Catholic?
	Be with Catholics.
	We're not going to interrupt your flow, man.
	We're just going to sell ads to you all day long.
	It's so easy.
	And it's, honestly, it's an algorithm built on love, the way I see it.
	I mean, it's maybe taken a bit far, but... It's a love algo.
	You're going to be on a list.
	Oh, well, but think about what we do.
	I mean, we laugh at a lot.
	Luckily, we laugh at all size, but there's a reason why we're not super successful.
	Because we do kind of... Sorry.
	There's a reason we're not super successful.
	Well, we're going to prove how we're not super successful definitely with today's donations.
	Let's do it right now.
	There's only going to be one.
	It's going to be short.
	You don't have to leave anywhere, trolls.
	I'd like to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in, well, let's see how bad it was today.
	Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. DeForest!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Anker.
	In the morning, there's ships with sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	All the games are nice out there.
	In the morning to our trolls in the troll room.
	Lots of trolls, I'm sure.
	Hello, trolls.
	Let's see how many we have.
	What are you doing, trolls?
	We've got 2,445.
	Troll count going up.
	That's good, I think.
	It's a good number.
	We're not going to fall off that much because we don't even have a total donations over $50 today are less than the magic number 33.
	We have 32 total donations, five producers, five executive producers.
	We have zero nights, zero names.
	We have birthdays, basically, is all we have.
	We got birthdays?
	Yeah, three.
	We got three birthdays and we got two meetups.
	I mean, what did we do wrong?
	I thought working on my vacation would make people proud of us continuing the show and we did the whole deconstruction of Lagarde.
	That's in Jamaica.
	He doesn't need any money.
	That's what it is.
	That's exactly what people think.
	I'm sure of it.
	Well anyway, for those of you who are enjoying the program in the Troll Room, trollroom.io, you can also do this with a modern podcast app, podcastapps.com, getpodverse, podcastaddict, you get the batch signal, you're alerted, it's the same, you can use this for all your podcasts, you can import them from Apple or from any other podcast app you're using, and this is the new format, this is the new lit format we call it, it's live, with the Troll Room, with the stream, people are really, this is something new,
	Your No Agenda show pioneered this.
	We've been doing this for a while now, it's just all in one app.
	You can also follow us on noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com, Adam at noagendasocial.com, and we're going to rush right in and thank our executive producers three.
	How about the art?
	Oh my goodness, I'm sorry.
	That is something we do like to stand still by.
	Yes, we need to thank our artist for episode 15, oh my goodness, what was it, 1540?
	41.
	No, today is 41.
	I thought today was 42.
	It better be 41.
	No, today's 41.
	Today's 41.
	I thought it was 42.
	No, today's not 42.
	No, I have it right here, let me see.
	No, 1540 was the last one.
	Today's 41.
	I think.
	That's 42.
	No, today's not 42.
	No, I have it right here.
	Let me see.
	No, 1540 was the last one.
	Happy in Helsinki.
	Don't mess me up, man.
	The art for that was brought to us by Tonta Neal.
	Tonta Neal, who uses Tonta underscore Neal, and getalby.com.
	It was the best piece there.
	We liked the balls, because we had talked about ball theft.
	And she did bowling balls, which was very cute.
	And it was a beautiful piece of art, simplistically done.
	You couldn't laugh at it.
	You could think it was endearing, unless you heard the show, I would say.
	Yeah, unless people look at it and say, what are they talking about bowling for?
	Yeah.
	There really wasn't anything else for us to choose from.
	What is going on?
	We don't have a lot of art, don't have a lot of producers.
	Something's up.
	You have a lot of people in the stream though.
	Yeah.
	I mean in the chat room, the troll room.
	Yeah, not contributing anything.
	It's weird.
	I don't know what it is.
	Something in the air.
	Well, maybe people are worried about, you know... What are they worried about?
	Well, if you listen to the mainstream, the banks are going broke, the economy is... Perp walk.
	Perp walk.
	People are losing their jobs.
	White powder.
	White powder.
	I can't wait until we're done with the donation segment.
	Lots to talk about still.
	White powder.
	Got a threat.
	Oh, they're threatening.
	Trump is trying to cause another something.
	Yeah, the death and destruction.
	I got the clips.
	We got the DeSantis.
	DeSantis is coming up the rear.
	Now we hear that DeSantis is being run by the George Bush people.
	Yeah, it's great.
	You hear that one yet?
	No.
	Doesn't surprise me.
	This was on one of the Fox, Fox and Friends, one of those groups that some guy said, oh, well, who's behind this?
	Well, the George Bushies, the Bushies are behind this campaign and Karl Rove.
	So Trump must have launched that.
	That's a good one.
	I like it.
	He had to.
	Yeah.
	So we'd like to Dame Kenny Benz.
	Oh, wait, wait.
	I'm back.
	I don't want to forget this either.
	There was also a whole set.
	These are not clips.
	These are just things that are random.
	Random reminiscences.
	Yes.
	They were talking about how they're trying to come up with a name for DeSantis, you know, a nickname that is the nasty nickname.
	And this came from John Oliver.
	And he says that they tried Ron DeSanctimonious, but they finally came up with one that Trump is pushing out there.
	Meatball Ron.
	Oh, I don't like it.
	Well, when you see this picture of Ron DeSantis and Meatball Ron, it actually is quite, I'd say, a pretty funny one.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Yeah.
	Meatball Ron.
	Just keep an eye out for it.
	It may not be the final.
	I have the clip if you want to hear the clip from Fox and Friends.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, play it.
	Okay, here it comes.
	What do you make of that?
	Listen, he's the greatest governor in America.
	He's not great as far as campaign skills.
	He may get there, but he doesn't have them yet.
	And I...
	Who's running his campaign?
	The Bushes are all tangled up with him.
	Bushes.
	Bush can raise him a billion dollars and get him all kinds of money.
	Jeb Bush.
	Jeb Bush.
	George Bush.
	Karl Rove involved?
	Karl Rove is involved.
	I'm assuming he'll be the coach on the field.
	I think he is.
	But do you know that he's been advising DeSantis?
	He's been advising him.
	That's why DeSantis has been getting a little better and better every week.
	Karl's a pretty smart fellow.
	They're all very smart.
	You saw what they did for Jeb Bush.
	It works in normal times.
	I don't think they're ready for Donald Trump.
	Kudlow is what it was on.
	Kudlow.
	Kudlow.
	A Fox business.
	Okay, personally, I gave a little plug there.
	I kind of liked Comic Strip Blogger's Happy Pills.
	It wasn't clear enough.
	Yes, you did.
	The reason I didn't like it is because the pills were, it was not, if it was made out of, if the design was from pills instead of like pills inserted.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It was too small, the pills were too small to see.
	That's because he has the skills to do this, but he trusted the Algo, AI.
	He's using AI for everything.
	So, you know, the AI art screwed him out of a win, as far as I'm concerned.
	And yeah, there was other... I don't think there was anything else.
	Also, by the way, the Chemistry Blogger color scheme wasn't... Yeah, the green background was not good.
	Hard to look at.
	Yeah, and that's because you can see the puppy over there.
	I don't know why.
	Why do people have puppies?
	Because it was Puppy National Puppy Day.
	Yeah, he used another black and green background.
	The only thing, I said that at the very beginning of the show, we never talked about puppies.
	Right.
	But everyone got all jacked up about puppies.
	There was a Jen Psaki in the straitjacket, was not a great piece of art.
	However, The Keeper did, you know, she was very interested in our talk about Jen Pisaki.
	And she also said, holy crap, that outfit is so wrong.
	And she said, there's something else, not just her hair that's all puffed up.
	But she says, massive, massive Botox and probably some injectables.
	And we went back, we did some comparisons.
	And yeah, so that's why it took so long to get to get her show on the air.
	She had to heal from the From the injectables in her face.
	You think she had, by injectables, Botox is injectable, but what you mean is the fillers?
	Fillers, yeah.
	So she has some fillers and the forehead is completely Botoxed.
	That thing don't move.
	It's like a stone.
	Oh, that's no good.
	Who convinces people that this is a good idea?
	Big Pharma.
	TikTok.
	She's self-harming from her TikTok videos.
	I don't know.
	What else was there?
	Nothing.
	I have a feeling a lot of this is AI art and I'm discouraged because you can feel it.
	I agree.
	It doesn't feel good.
	I'm pretty sure that Fletcher's puppy, he did not draw that dog.
	No.
	That's a good puppy.
	It's a sad puppy.
	Anyway, thank you very much to Tantaniel.
	Excellent art.
	We love that.
	It's part of the value for value that we love so much receiving.
	Extremely valuable to us to have the artists doing this.
	And you can follow what they do.
	I'm gonna refresh right now, see if anything new came in while we're talking.
	Answered no.
	We have three pieces for today.
	Three.
	Hmm.
	So if you want to get in, today is the day for you to get a win, I would say.
	Let me see.
	We'll look.
	We also like to thank people who give us the other T of the three T's, time, talent, and treasure.
	And that's where we congratulate our executive and associate executive producers because that's what you are when you donate above $200 for the show.
	And these are forever credits.
	They don't expire.
	They don't get pushed away.
	Now, you can't win awards necessarily.
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	And people have gotten jobs through this, and we will vouch for you.
	Unlike the phonies in Hollywood.
	We'll kick it off with Dalton Fisher, our top Producer for today from Escanaba, Michigan.
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	We love these kinds of donation numbers.
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	I could not have said it better myself.
	I'm gonna de-douche him, even though he didn't ask for it.
	You've been de-douched.
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	That's a good note.
	Valentino Argero, uh, or Argyero, uh, in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
	34567, curiously.
	We weren't asking for that.
	Jingle WTC7.
	Here's some more treasury.
	John, nice job on pronouncing my last name.
	What did I do?
	You did it right.
	Good job.
	Good job.
	Let's try it again.
	Argueiro.
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	If your first name is Hakon, then your last name is Andresen.
	By the way, If I may.
	Hack-on?
	Hack-on.
	What a name.
	When it comes to crazy names, I don't know if you saw this.
	It's very short.
	I'm going to play this.
	There's this state representative in Florida, Will Robinson, and he was taking a vote during a meeting, and I mean, I'm forever 15 so I have to play this since we're talking about funny names, and someone trolled him with some fake names.
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	Uh, he needs a de-douching.
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	Paradise, I'm sure, in Wichita, Kansas.
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	Another birthday in a row.
	And that's for his buddy.
	I don't see a de-douching on there.
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	No Agenda Meetups!
	We got a couple of meetups that are taking place today and Thursday and of course there's a really big list for April which you can look at at noagendameetups.com.
	Two reports came in, professionally done actually.
	The first one from Columbus, Ohio.
	This is Wild Bill from the Central Ohio Meetup.
	We are here, pre-recorded, the Columbus Pins Mechanical downtown.
	Thank you for your courage and we appreciate everyone that's here today.
	In the morning, gentlemen, this is Mark reporting from Columbus, Ohio.
	This is a spook-free zone.
	Good turnout and good vibes.
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	If you can't drink the water in Ohio, there's always beer.
	This is Anthony.
	I just hugged everybody and shared a secret, because there's no winning here.
	Actually, I lost at the game, so... Thank you, gentlemen.
	And then we have the large group, large group in Indiana.
	The Indie Meetup, and they also sent a picture of their large group, and they had heads printed out of us.
	They were mega heads!
	I mean, like, as big as huge, huge balloons.
	Just big, big heads.
	And Annette Miller edited their report.
	Hi, this is Maria.
	And this is Mark.
	From Indie Meetup, with new people here, and amazing times.
	Sir Benny saying hello, everybody.
	In the morning!
	This is Mike with the Fort Wayne Group down here in Indy playing a game of Spot the Spook.
	After I get finished everybody's browser history here, I'll let you know.
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	Look at that juice in the morning.
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	Talk to you in 1.25 speed.
	I love that report.
	That could have gone on any Top 40 radio station, no problem.
	Thank you.
	to meet up they've hit me in the mouth i love that report that could have gone on any top 40 radio station no problem thank you very professional annette today myrtle beach conway last minute river party kicks off in about 30 minutes from now 4 30 eastern at rusty's house in conway south So you gotta go to noagentomeetups.com to find out more.
	And on Thursday, the 30th, the Denver area April Fool's Writer's Room Meetup starts at 6.30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.
	And again, we got a A lot going on all over the world.
	Meetups all the way through April and beyond, but you'll see every single day in April has at least one, often multiple meetups.
	This is your community.
	The No Agenda Meetups are producer-organized.
	They are producer-maintained by Sir Daniel and, of course, Mimi in the back office at noagendameetups.com.
	Connection is protection.
	You need it.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	Always a party.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Drink it all hell's lame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Even though I won't be playing them for a bit, we should check the ISOs, as we always do online.
	I'm not very proud of my selections today.
	I was working on the TikTok stuff, so...
	I'll play mine, and then we'll see what you got.
	Okay.
	Okay, here's the first one.
	Don't listen to those ham radio guys.
	Okay.
	Right, exactly.
	Like, there's no agenda.
	That's all I got.
	Actually, I like that second one.
	I like both of those.
	Really?
	Oh, okay.
	We'll see what you got.
	I have three, actually.
	One of them is mislabeled, but I'll give you these.
	ISO thanks you.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Ending, okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I got this one.
	Be safe.
	And be safe out there, okay?
	Yeah, I kind of like that.
	That's okay.
	And the last one is chill pill.
	Robert joins us now, so... Oops.
	Sorry, wrong one.
	Here it is.
	People need to take a chill pill!
	That's the one.
	That's great.
	I like it.
	Is that from TikTok?
	Play it again.
	People need to take a chill pill!
	I like it!
	Yeah, I think it might be from TikTok.
	It makes me smile.
	I like that.
	It makes me smile.
	I'm happy.
	I'm happy with that.
	Oh, man, I have a little deconstruction, but maybe you should play some of your clips, because I got the Hag.
	I got a Hag report.
	Hillary assassination.
	Okay, well, I've got Acosta.
	Acosta's now working for CBS.
	Wait a minute.
	Jim Acosta?
	The guy, yeah, the enemy of Trump.
	The CNN guy?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Did he leave CNN or is he doing that in addition?
	No, no, I think he's left CNN.
	No, they wouldn't let him do that.
	There's no way.
	Oh, he got a promotion.
	He stepped up to the CIA broadcasting systems.
	Yeah, I guess he did his job.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I remember During the COVID, the COVIDs, friends of mine who, I can't remember, were they doing catering?
	They were doing something at the CIA guy's house in Virginia.
	And remember he said all of CNN was there, Jake Tapper, but also Jim Acosta.
	So that makes sense.
	It was probably working his angle for the CIA broadcasting systems.
	He was hanging out.
	Well, they brought him over.
	They brought him in, yes.
	He's a made man.
	Let's get these three reports out of the way.
	These three clips, I mean, from one report.
	This CBS New York Acosta versus Trump one.
	We want to begin with growing concerns about violence as Donald Trump is using increasingly ominous and threatening rhetoric as his legal challenges mount.
	The top Democrat in the House warning the former president will get someone killed.
	This comes as an envelope with white powder and a note that read, I'm going to kill you, was sent to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office today.
	CBS News has learned that security has been stepped up to Bragg over the last couple of years.
	Stop.
	I just noticed it on this third listen that if you listen carefully, there's a very subtle connection in...
	It almost makes it sound as if... start it over again and listen with this in mind.
	The whole thing?
	Yes, right from the beginning.
	It sounds as if Trump...
	He sent a letter with the powder saying, I'm going to kill you.
	Oh, well done, CBS.
	We want to begin with growing concerns about violence as Donald Trump is using increasingly ominous and threatening rhetoric as his legal challenges mount.
	The top Democrat in the House warning the former president will get someone killed.
	This comes as an envelope with white powder and a note that read, I'm going to kill you, was sent to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office today.
	Well, if not saying Trump did it, certainly implying that he's directly responsible because his reckless rhetoric has made people send powder!
	This is good.
	They're so concerned about him.
	CBS News has learned that security has been stepped up for Bragg over the last few weeks.
	And just days ago, the New York City courthouse, where a grand jury is deciding Trump's fate, was temporarily shut down because of bomb threats.
	Meanwhile today, big developments in that probe by a special counsel, a federal judge ordering some of Trump's closest personal Good evening, Nora.
	It's Robert.
	That's not Jim Acosta.
	That's Robert Acosta.
	before a different grand jury probing the january 6th attack on the u.s capital that includes former chief of staff mark meadows cbs's robert costa is going to start us off with new reporting good evening robert good evening norah it's robert that's not jim acosta that's robert acosta that's a whole different acosta i thought robert acosta was the guy at cnn No, that's Jim.
	Jimbo.
	What's his name?
	It's not Robert Acosta, and he doesn't have the annoying Robert.
	Well, he hates Trump, too.
	This is a jip.
	A jip!
	Okay, it's a jip.
	It's a jip.
	Alright, alright.
	But okay, go ahead.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Cara.
	Number two?
	Yeah.
	Backlash today to the former president's explosive comments about that ongoing investigation in New York days before a possible decision on an indictment of Trump.
	The twice impeached former president's rhetoric is reckless, reprehensible, and irresponsible.
	House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries sounding the alarm today after former President Trump warned that death and destruction is possible if he's indicted.
	It's dangerous.
	And if he keeps it up, he's going to get someone killed.
	Trump also reposted an ominous altered image where he is holding a baseball bat next to an image of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who has one of his hands raised.
	Bragg, who now has increased security, received a death threat today at his New York office.
	A letter addressed to him with a note inside saying, Alvin, I'm going to kill you.
	It contained a small amount of white powder, but was determined to be non-hazardous.
	Meanwhile, Trump's legal challenge...
	I love the non-hazardous...
	How about nothing?
	Non-hazardous.
	It's still bad, but it's non-hazardous.
	...saying, Alvin, I'm going to kill you.
	It contained a small amount of white powder, but was determined to be non-hazardous.
	Meanwhile, Trump's legal challenges in Washington are mounting.
	A federal judge ordered several of his former top aides to testify about his conduct before and during the January 6 Capitol attack, including former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.
	This came as the special counsel probing Trump's handling of classified documents heard testimony today from Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran, who prosecutors believe may have been misled by Trump about the retention of those documents.
	President Trump's counsel, Evan Corcoran, probably represents the most profound threat to his potential indictment.
	Wow, man, the alliteration is just dynamite in this.
	I heard it.
	You want me to play it again?
	You feel I stepped on it?
	At the very end he says it's a threat to his indictment.
	What does that mean?
	President Trump's counsel Evan Corcoran probably represents the most profound threat to his potential indictment.
	That his lawyer is no good is what I took that to mean.
	A threat to the indictment means the indictment is no good?
	No, it sounds like there could be an indictment, but this is a threat to the indictment, which means there would be no indictment, right?
	I guess, because the guy's good, then.
	I mean, it's just this confusing language they use.
	So you're thinking one thing, but there's kind of saying the other?
	Well, they're so obsessed with R. Children, what does R stand for?
	R stands for Reprehensible Reckless Rhetoric.
	Yeah, you really, it's understandable that you're triggered.
	Very triggered by that, yes.
	Hopefully there's more.
	Let's go to the last clip.
	Robert joins us now, so this is a lot to talk about, but do you think that at the end of the day... What's there to talk about?
	There's a lot to talk about.
	We need to fill a whole hour with this junk.
	Robert joins us now, so this is a lot to talk about, but do you think that at the end of the day, Trump's former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, will end up testifying?
	It's very possible.
	Sources close to Trump's legal team tell us they will try to appeal this decision, but ultimately, due to timing issues with the grand jury, we could see Meadows and many other top officials testify in this high-profile case.
	This all comes before Trump heads Saturday to Waco, Texas for a campaign rally.
	As we all know, that's 30 years ago where there was a deadly showdown between federal agents and an extremist group.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	An extremist group of religious people that you burned alive.
	It was a religious group.
	That you burned alive.
	And you killed them all.
	The U.S.
	government murdered this whole family, mostly children.
	Yes, Janet Napolitano, Bill Clinton, was Democrat, we might point out.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	They just murdered these people.
	Was that the reason?
	I know Sir Gene went there.
	And he's alive because he reported in this morning.
	He said there were about 15,000 people there, so it was pretty good vibe.
	Were they there in Waco to commemorate this?
	Was that the idea?
	No, it was just a coincidence.
	They brought it up in this report just to make it sound like Trump had something to do with it or extremists like to gather in Waco.
	I think that may be the message.
	Neuro-linguistic programming message, the extremists, and now there's Trump.
	And so, yeah, I understand it was a pretty good crowd.
	Typical, you know, 15,000 type.
	Neil Jones, clip custodian extraordinaire, he knew that I'd be flying and so he got me a lot of clips on this and he also got me the Jim Acosta clips.
	He got me a couple others.
	He got me one from Morning Joe, which, this should be quite hilarious, also about this very same topic.
	Donald Trump is now threatening death and destruction if he's, get this, if he's possibly charged, could just be a misdemeanor, death and destruction and riots.
	For a misdemeanor charge?
	I will simply read it.
	What kind of person can charge another person, in this case a former president, who got more votes, yadda yadda yadda, we'll skip that.
	How do you charge this person with a crime?
	Did he say yadda yadda yadda?
	Yeah, I'll skip that.
	He's reading from Truth Social.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	More votes.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	We'll skip that.
	How do you charge this person with a crime when it is known by all that no crime has been committed and also known... No, that's not known by all.
	Not known by all.
	But also...
	No crime has been committed and also known that potential death and destruction in such a false charge could be catastrophic for our country.
	Why and who would do such a thing?
	Only a degenerate psychopath that truly hates the United States of America.
	That was posted after midnight by the former president of the United States.
	People need to take a chill pill!
	They're all, they're breathless!
	They're out of... And it's amazing that, you know, of course he couldn't technically come back on the Twitter, but they, you know, they had him.
	They had him off Twitter.
	They had him off Facebook.
	They had him off everything and he hasn't come back on those as far as he hasn't really posted anything.
	So he's using Truth Social, a failed social network, and now they're back to reading from his social network.
	The Trump system still works.
	He could just post a note, a posted note, on his door and they would read it.
	Okay, let's go to Chip Chop Chop Top Tog Tog Gregory Todd from MSNBC.
	Meet the people, meet the women.
	Did the campaign explain why they picked Wake Up?
	There has been no explanation to us at this point, though their spokesman did tell another news outlet that it was in the middle of the state, convenient from all the major markets.
	Of course, it should not be lost on anybody that this is in the middle of the 30th anniversary.
	Since the standoff against the federal agents that resulted in dozens of deaths 30 years ago.
	And so Donald Trump, of course, is not usually one who is ignorant to messaging or perhaps coincidence.
	And this comes at a time in which Donald Trump himself is, of course, potentially going to be trying to be in the middle of his own standoff against federal agents as well.
	Wow, there's a winner.
	Cliff Custodian for the win.
	Nice one.
	That last bit again is hilarious.
	In the middle of his own standoff against federal agents as well.
	It's his own standoff just like Waco.
	It's not lost on us.
	I'm Jip Todd, everybody.
	Alright, let's get back to Jip Todd with the second part of this report.
	Today, a federal grand jury has now heard testimony from an attorney for Donald Trump.
	After a judge ruled that the special counsel's office investigating the former president's mishandling of classified information had presented sufficient evidence to establish that Trump may have committed a crime using his attorneys to do it.
	It comes as the former president is lashing out about a different criminal case, that one in Manhattan.
	It's the one where he incorrectly predicted his own arrest earlier this week while calling Oh wait, they have another reason to say he's wrong!
	He's wrong!
	He incorrectly predicted his arrest.
	Fact check false.
	Fact check false.
	It's the one where he incorrectly predicted his own arrest earlier this week while calling for protest.
	You know, I didn't think that they could make Trump entertaining again.
	They had done it.
	I really was tired of it all.
	Like, oh man, Trump running is going to suck.
	I forgot how entertaining the M5M makes it.
	It's really, really enjoyable.
	I appreciate this.
	His own arrest earlier this week while calling for protests.
	NBC News has now learned from law enforcement sources that the FBI and NYPD are now at the scene of what may be a potential crime at the Manhattan DA's office after it found a letter addressed to Alvin Bragg threatening to kill him.
	The letter also contained white powder that authorities have now deemed non-hazardous.
	They do the same thing.
	What?
	It's a very vague connection between Trump and the letter as though Trump wrote it.
	Of course!
	I'll bet you there are people that don't listen carefully.
	They think that Trump wrote that letter.
	Of course!
	And one of those people, I'm not gonna name his name, is the guy who sent me a note, he says, hey man, I listen to the show, I'm trying to get my girlfriend to listen, and she's really, she's like, stop restarting the clips!
	We get it already, stop restarting the clips!
	And I was like, get a better girlfriend, bro!
	He thought that was pretty funny, actually.
	...of what may be a potential crime at the Manhattan D.A.' 's office after it found a letter addressed to Alvin Bragg threatening to kill him.
	The letter also contained white powder that authorities have now deemed non-hazardous.
	There have been no evacuations or injuries at the D.A.' 's office.
	Wow!
	They didn't need to add that.
	Oh, there are no evacuations or injuries.
	Well, no, because there was no- because it was phony.
	It was wrong- if it existed at all.
	Oy, oy, oy.
	The letter also contained white powder that authorities have now deemed non-hazardous.
	There have been no evacuations or injuries at the DA's office.
	Overnight, Trump warned of, quote, potential death and destruction.
	He really used that- those- that phrase, folks.
	Oh, folks!
	He really used that!
	Oh, folks!
	Orange!
	We're back!
	The season is in!
	What is wrong with these people?
	A lot!
	A lot is wrong with them!
	Goodness gracious!
	Meanwhile... To leave that topic where it belongs, to the side of the road... Please, yes.
	Let's go to Syria.
	Yeah!
	With something a little more important.
	We just bombed some people last night.
	Whatever.
	Let's go to Iranian drone strike in Syria 1.
	There's some breaking news tonight.
	CBS News has learned there have been three more attacks on American bases from Iran-backed forces since retaliatory airstrikes overnight.
	It all started when a suspected Iranian drone hit and killed an American and wounded at least six others.
	CBS's David Martin reports tonight from the Pentagon.
	Did she mispronounce?
	So, hold on a second.
	She uses the word American Air bases, and it turns out to be two or three of them.
	It depends on your reporting, but I've seen three.
	And what are we doing with... I'm going to ask you.
	We're big, big shots when it comes to like...
	to Ukraine, you know, they have their have their borders, they got their, you know, we got to keep the Russians out.
	Has anybody who gave us permission to set up shop three bases in Syria?
	Well, it's not our country.
	Interesting, you say that because when I heard about the drug, I got it through my, through my, my channels from my military channels.
	And I got the Hey, someone that one of our guys killed airbase in Syria.
	And I said, Oh, no, no.
	We were bombing and I said, why?
	Well, an Iranian drone killed one of our guys on our base.
	What are we doing there?
	No answer.
	Of course, those guys don't know.
	They're just sent there.
	They just do it.
	But, yeah, that's what it is.
	David Martin reports tonight from the Pentagon.
	The aftermath of a strike by American jets against what U.S.
	officials called the headquarters of the Iranian-backed Islamic Revolutionary Guards in eastern Syria.
	The pilots observed a secondary explosion, a sign they also hid an ammo dump.
	Be prepared for a strike forcefully.
	Protect our people.
	That's exactly what happened last night.
	President Biden ordered the strike Thursday as he flew to Canada aboard Air Force One after a drone hit an American base in northeastern Syria.
	I really don't know.
	I'd like to understand why.
	This has been going on for a while.
	There's all kinds of droning going on.
	I don't know why.
	Well, that's another interesting little thing.
	Why is this all of a sudden big news?
	I think it's the next clip where they talk about there's been 78 attacks.
	At the time, the air defense system surrounding the base was not in full operation.
	And military officials are now investigating whether that is why the drone got through.
	We are very confident that based on the forensics, based on the intelligence analysis that we've done, that it was of Iranian origin.
	There are still about 900 American troops in Syria working with local fighters to go after remnants of the ISIS terror network.
	But that has exposed them to attacks by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards.
	They're clearly trying to run us out of Syria at the very least.
	The commander of U.S.
	forces in the Middle East tallied up the attacks since the start of the Biden administration.
	There has been a number since 1 January 2021.
	January 2021, the number is about 78 times that we have been attacked.
	So remnants of...
	Why is it news now?
	Remnants of ISIS?
	Remnants of ISIS.
	And they said we're fighting with local forces?
	Are these Syrian from the Syrian government?
	What kind of local forces are we talking about?
	There's a bunch of different competing forces over there.
	Kurds?
	What are we talking about?
	I don't know.
	I'm very confused.
	And northeast?
	I mean, that's not... Russia's not there.
	Russia is northwest.
	It's way, way out of the way over there.
	It's out of the way, yeah.
	It's way over there.
	That's the last clip.
	Iranian drones are also being used by Russia against Ukraine.
	One of several potential flashpoints between the U.S.
	and Iran.
	U.S.
	officials say Iran is only months away from being able to field a nuclear weapon.
	But Joint Chiefs Chairman General Mark Milley testified this week the U.S.
	has plans to prevent that.
	And we, the United States military, have developed multiple options for our national leadership to consider if or when Iran ever decides to develop an actual nuclear weapon.
	It's not clear whether the government of Iran directly orders these attacks on American bases or just encourages them.
	Either way, U.S.
	officials say Iran is responsible.
	Okay, so whatever it is, it's Iran, Iran, Iran.
	China, China, China.
	Iran, Iran, Iran.
	Russia, Russia, Russia.
	They have to do China, China, China.
	They have to do the B. We've got to get Brazil.
	We've got to get Brazil in there, people.
	Get all the bricks.
	I want to come back to nuclear in a moment, but first because of this base thing.
	I just want to mention something about the nuclear.
	We've been doing this show over 15 years.
	Correct.
	How long has it been where we've been hearing, oh, they're about two weeks away from fielding a nuclear missile?
	Yeah, you're so right.
	I think at least 12 years.
	Minimum.
	Minimum.
	Let me see.
	The archive doesn't go back far enough, but let me see.
	Iran.
	Nuke.
	Let's see what I have.
	I have... Oh, well, okay.
	Here's 2011.
	I'm just... Needle drop, okay?
	Needle drop.
	In your book you also write about Iran.
	The IAEA, the nuclear agency of the UN, this week is about to reveal, apparently, more details showing, apparently, that Iran is trying to weaponize.
	Do you think the United States, the Obama administration, has to ratchet up the confrontation?
	You talked this week about confronting Iran.
	Does that involve military confrontation by the US?
	Well, the United States should certainly make clear that the President of the United States will consider military action if necessary, because you never want to take that card off the table.
	I think there are other ways to confront Iran.
	You can confront Iran through even tougher sanctions.
	And I also think, Kirstjen, this is one of the downsides of having our forces out of Iraq, because we can confront the Iranians in Iraq.
	So yes, I think it's time to confront the Iranian regime because it's the poster child for state sponsorship of terrorism.
	It's trying to get a nuclear weapon.
	It's repressed its own people.
	The regime has absolutely no legitimacy left.
	We should be doing everything we can to bring it down and never take military force off the table.
	So that was 2011.
	She didn't quite say it's right around the corner.
	Here's 2012, short one.
	We'll calculate whether he will seek deliverance in a nuclear compromise in order to bring about some relief to himself, or whether he will seek deliverance with a nuclear weapon itself.
	Thinking that that will bring him a shield from outside pressure.
	I think recent history doesn't bode very well because the example, the lesson which Khamenei learned from the example in Libya, Gaddafi's example in Libya, was that when Gaddafi abdicated his nuclear program, that made him vulnerable to outside intervention.
	Right, so we don't, I mean if I looked, I'm sure I could find it where it's right around the corner.
	Yeah, well we know it's, they've been saying this.
	But they've been talking, so this is 11 years.
	Oh, we're on Snoke!
	Well, okay, let me do this.
	Let me go to Russia and nuke, because there's a little nuance in what President Putin has said and what is actually happening with the nuclear weapons.
	Tonight, Russia ratcheting up the nuclear threat.
	For the first time in decades, planning to deploy tactical nuclear weapons designed for limited strikes on the battlefield beyond its borders in Belarus.
	President Putin telling Russian state TV it's a response to the UK supplying Ukraine with depleted uranium tank shells.
	The Kremlin falsely claiming the shells have nuclear components.
	It comes as Ukraine's President Zelensky warning brutal artillery battles in the east draining ammunition stocks.
	Zelensky telling a leading Japanese newspaper he can't start a new offensive due to a lack of ammunition and arms.
	But claims tonight from Ukraine's top commander that Russia's offensive stalling around the besieged city of Bakhmut.
	General Zelizny saying the situation is being stabilized.
	Russia pounding the city for months.
	Pounding!
	Both sides suffering heavy losses there.
	This is Oleg.
	Like Ukrainian soldier Oleg.
	His mother and sister taking us to his grave.
	Kissing his photo, their hero.
	So many young people have died in Bukhmut, Alex's sister says.
	Coffins keep coming and coming.
	Putin is going to put nuclear arms in Belarus.
	He's going to put nukes in Belarus.
	Nukes in Belarus.
	Not exactly.
	Putin has sought to frame this as a response to the British government's statement a couple of days ago saying they would supply the Ukrainians with depleted uranium ammunition for use in armor-pearson shields.
	It's a harder type of metal that uses some kind of depleted uranium.
	That actually isn't banned internationally.
	It's not a nuclear weapon at all.
	Putin seems to have just found an excuse to hang this latest ranching up of the tension on the West.
	It's almost certainly also a response to a prospective Ukrainian offensive against the Russians, which is being spoken as coming fairly soon.
	So it's really, it's not nuclear weapons, it's depleted uranium ammo.
	By the way, that stuff is nasty.
	It's very nasty.
	We use it too.
	We used it in Iraq and pretty much poisoned the country.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	It's bad.
	Now listen to this Boots on the Ground from producer Chris in the morning.
	I was having a conversation with my niece's boyfriend this evening during a family function.
	He's a member of the New Jersey National Guard.
	The subject of his future deployments came up.
	Last Thanksgiving he was telling us how his unit had begun training for a Ukraine deployment, but it was shelved for whatever reason.
	I think we might have reported that.
	Things seem to have changed and his unit will now be deployed in approximately two weeks.
	New Jersey National Guard.
	And that the U.S.
	involvement over there is picking up as the situation is getting crazy.
	We do have an active military presence there, not just contractors, and it's spinning out of control.
	They recently had four U.S.
	citizens kidnapped, and that is prompting a step up in our response.
	He was a little fuzzy on the details.
	Why are we not hearing about this?
	Trying to hold off WW3?
	As of right now, his unit has been told it'll be a years-long deployment.
	If nothing changes, he'll be cycled back stateside, but only for a few weeks.
	Then he'll be heading into Mexico, because we're now sending troops south to begin fighting the drug cartels.
	Seems like something that should be reported as well.
	There's another gathering tomorrow.
	I'll try and get more information.
	Maybe with more or less liquor involved.
	Good work, Producer Chris.
	Well, we didn't hear about that.
	What, the New Jersey National Guard is being shipped off?
	Yeah, to Ukraine.
	To Ukraine, and then they're gonna ship them off a year from now to Mexico?
	Correct.
	And this is not getting reported by Stars and Stripes or anybody?
	Not that I know of.
	Not that I know of.
	This is not... This is piss poor.
	Yeah.
	It is.
	Really, it's piss poor.
	These guys can't keep... They got... They do briefings at the Pentagon.
	They can ask... We're not supposed to be shipping our soldiers over there.
	What are you... What are we doing?
	This is nuts!
	So a lot of people weighed in on no agenda social.
	I caught this on the flight back on my free T-Mobile based internet.
	About the...
	We were talking about this accident, a private jet, a Challenger 300, where one of the passengers on board was killed, which initially was reported as turbulence, and we were talking about people on private jets not putting on their seatbelts, and I even gave my own account of this happening with Ray Lane.
	Yes, a very humorous story.
	Yeah, so she got tossed around and cracked her head open and she died, and her husband and her son were on this flight.
	And I think they actually work for the jet, it's a jet from the, from the company.
	Global, what is it?
	Bombardier.
	And so the NTSB came out with a preliminary report.
	We have to point out that this woman, her name is Dana Hyde, she was a lawyer for the Clintons, she was an attorney who advised... Oh no!
	Exactly.
	Okay, she was co-chair of the Aspen Institute's Partnership for an Inclusive Economy, served both the Obama and Clinton administrations, served on the commission that investigated the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack.
	So of course everyone's like, Hag!
	Hillary assassination group!
	They killed her!
	And this is the cover story they say.
	And so the NTSB comes out with a report.
	A couple of anomalies, a lot of anomalies.
	Where they actually aborted the first takeoff because someone had neglected to take off the little covering of the pitot tube, which is how you measure airspeed, there's two of them.
	So the second pitot tube, so they actually aborted the takeoff.
	And then they got some kind of caution light, not a warning, not a caution light.
	Both these pilots, very skilled pilots, less than 100 hours on type though, which might have been part of the problem.
	So what happened was, After they took off at 6,000 feet, they observed multiple caution messages on the EICAS, which is, I forget what the acronym is, but it's the airplane telling you something.
	The crew recalled EICAS messages of AP Stab Trim Fail, Autopilot Stabilizer Trim Fail, Mock Trim Fail, and AP Holding Nose Down.
	Neither crew member could recall exactly what order the EICS messages were presented.
	So what happened is they looked into the quick reference handbook Which they did on an iPad, which is the electronic flight bag, which may or may not have been updated.
	This is where the problem, I think, is.
	It's a massive, colossal failure on a lot of people's account here.
	And the checklist says, oh, you should turn off the trim stabilizer switch, which they did.
	The minute they did that, the airplane pitched up with over two G's Then the pilot, who had his left hand on the yoke, pushed it in, they flipped back the trim stabilizer, then it inverted with nose down for three and a half G's, and then up again, so it was oscillating for three or four...
	You know, up and down movements.
	And this was at 6,000 feet.
	Everyone should have been buckled in.
	This poor lady was not, and she got hammered around, and her head split open, and she did not make it.
	So everyone, of course, says, I've never heard of this!
	This is obviously, they killed her!
	On the plane!
	Which is understandable, because it was first reported as turbulence, as we reported as well.
	So, as I'm looking into this, Turns out, there's something called an Airworthiness Directive, which came out in February 2022, so over a year ago, for this particular type, for this particular model of the 300 and the 500s.
	And it says as follows, Flight Controls, Horizontal Stabilizer Trim Switch, Unintended Horizontal Stabilizer Motion for the Models 300 and 500, Compliance, which means it needs to be fixed within 14 days of the effective date of this Airworthiness Directive unless already accomplished.
	And what it says in here is that this particular, there's a miswiring in the plane, And even a spring in the switch can be failing, and that's why the message says AP holding nose down.
	What happened was the trim on the back of this airplane, the trim was way off.
	It was setting it, you know, basically, trim is like, it's like pulling back on the yoke, only it's a little stabilizer that you can use.
	So you don't have to, you know, use so much on the yoke.
	It kind of eases the pressure.
	And it was set incorrectly because of this mistake, this fault, which had not been fixed on the aircraft.
	The minute they clicked it off, the whole autopilot comes off, which it even said, AP holding nose down.
	And of course, at that point, You know, it's like when you fold, if you make a paper airplane, you fold two little things on the back, on the tail, you fold that up and the plane will go up and make a looping.
	That's essentially what happened here.
	And it is unbelievable that this aircraft was not fixed.
	It is supposed to be done over a year ago.
	These pilots, it should not have been a cautionary warning, it should have been an actual danger warning.
	So this is a colossal mistake on behalf of the owners of the jet, the company, the pilots were not properly informed, and this woman died.
	And all of that's in the show notes if you want to go look at it.
	But it was not a... unless they had a lot of foresight.
	It was sitting there ready to be done when they felt like it.
	If she had buckled in, no.
	Flip the switch.
	And there you go.
	Who's the crackpot?
	Who's the buzzkill here?
	Who got to you is the question.
	Yeah, right?
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	Who got to me?
	Let's go back to Putin for a second, because whereas in America we're very, very, very concerned about children being told to hate America by the Chinese, in Europe we know that Putin is really stealing children.
	Dave, the other There's another issue that seems to be coming from this summit.
	Ursula von der Leyen, the Commission President, saying that there are up to 16,000 children deported from Ukraine to Russia, which Kiev says they're being indoctrinated by Russia.
	She wants an international summit to get to the bottom of where they are.
	Yeah, this was kind of a surprise that President von der Leyen focused on this so heavily in her press conference last night, following the discussions.
	She didn't have to go into so much detail about it.
	So this is clearly something that the Commission is going to lean into.
	Now, of course, this follows the ICC warrant for President Putin of Russia for allegedly his involvement in this program of abducting Ukrainian children and sending them to Russian families.
	So she went into quite a bit of detail about this, saying that there are substantiated reports that this is happening and that children are being sent to Russian foster families.
	And she doesn't seem content to just be supporting the ICC's warrant.
	After all, Russia is not a member and doesn't have any obligation to send over President Putin, nor does it seem likely that any country that he would visit would arrest him and turn him over.
	So it seems like Queen Ursula is going to add this to the to the list to make it even more agreeable to people.
	Like, oh, this guy is so bad.
	He's abducting children.
	He's just stealing them, taking the children.
	And even the reporters, this is France 24, even the reporters are like, it's kind of weird she's doing that.
	No, dude.
	No, it's going to be added to the list.
	We have a huge list.
	And they're going to throw the book at him.
	When they catch him.
	They're going to throw the book at him.
	I hope they end this war soon.
	My whole thesis is starting to fall apart.
	We're sending the New Jersey National Guard.
	There's all kinds of weird stuff going on.
	They've got to end this.
	Well, yeah, I think your theory is falling apart.
	A little bit.
	But they do have to end it, no matter whether there's a theory involved or not.
	They're going to run out of bullets.
	They've got nothing.
	Using uranium?
	You know, someone wrote me, one of our producers, about the war of attrition.
	And you say, this is just like World War I. And sometimes in World War I, there are reports that the bombing was just so intense that you didn't hear a bomb, it was just a constant, non-stop bombing on both sides.
	Non-stop.
	And that must be what they're doing here.
	I mean, how big is Ukraine?
	350 miles across?
	How much more can you do?
	Well, we have to remember that the bomb, the artillery, everything that's going on is in the limited area.
	It's not the whole country.
	No, I understand.
	So that would be similar in terms of just bombings.
	How about this?
	I mean, they shot a million shells in what, just a few hundred square miles.
	How about this?
	How about they make Donbass the demilitarized zone?
	For now.
	That would be the compromise.
	Would that work?
	I think it's a great idea.
	But they're not going to do any of that until we, you know, because we're spending, we're making too much money on the back end here.
	No, I don't, I think that's the problem is because that's why they won't send the jets because the money's dried up.
	They're not going to build, no more money for new jets.
	There's something not, something is not working out.
	I think that's the problem.
	The money needs to go to China.
	China, the theater.
	Japan, get ready for Taiwan.
	Iran, maybe Iran.
	You know, it could be totally rogue that we've got the true military-industrial complex working on the Iran angle.
	Hey man, let's get this going.
	We need more gear.
	We need more money spent on stuff.
	Africa is also... Africa is heating up with Kamala's down there giving speeches left and right.
	Did you get anything from your people?
	I didn't get any Kamala clips yet.
	I'm gonna try to get some.
	I got a Gates clip who was... of course he's questioning people in an empty... is he a representative?
	He's a representative, right?
	So it's an empty room, no one's there.
	Gates?
	Yeah.
	The Florida guy?
	Yeah.
	Is he in Africa?
	No, no, no.
	He was in Congress.
	But he was questioning the general who's in charge of AFRICOM.
	And he was obviously there to make a point, and I think the point was well made, and he really left this general sitting with a mouthful of teeth, homina, homina, homina, and listened to it.
	General Langley, I have constituents that have been scattered across Africa on train and equip missions.
	So, just ballpark, in the last decade, how many Africans has the United States military trained and equipped?
	Congressman, I don't have that figure.
	I can get that figure for you.
	The ballpark.
	How many?
	Congressman, it would be a wild guess.
	Seems like something we should know, right?
	Badgering the witness.
	Over the years, we have trained a substantial number, especially in the Gulf of Guinea states.
	More than 10,000?
	It is more than 10,000.
	More than 50,000?
	I'd say we're reaching around 50,000 at least.
	And what percentage of the people we've trained end up participating in insurrections or coups against their own government?
	I love this question!
	I thought that we weren't supposed to do that, but okay, it's just alright to ask.
	So how many of these people we've trained and equipped have actually participated in coups against their own government?
	You know, like for regime change.
	Very small number, Congressman.
	Very small number.
	So what percentage do you think?
	I'd say probably less than 1%.
	But it does happen.
	The IMED program is in force.
	This guy is so dumb, he's walking right into the trap and doesn't even know it.
	We'll push a number, a significant number through our schools across the military.
	And what data sets do you track to arrive at the conclusion that less than 1% of the roughly 50,000 that we've trained have participated in coups?
	Um.
	Because it would be like about 500, about 1% of 50,000.
	Congressman, you may have that information.
	I don't at this time.
	But I know there's some, right?
	Like in, go ahead and throw up that image.
	They got the big board with a big picture on it.
	Uh-oh.
	This is Colonel Mamaday Dumbuya, and this is a photo of him.
	Did we train and equip him?
	In Guinea?
	By name, I cannot identify that.
	Hold on a second, stop.
	This guy's the head of AFRICOM?
	He doesn't know anything!
	No, John, none of them know anything.
	Like Lagarde, she's stupid, these people are stupid!
	The people who are appointed and running the show are stupid.
	They're all just pencil pushers.
	They go to the hairdresser when they're in Paris.
	They go to lunches and have dinners.
	They're all stupid.
	And listen to this.
	In Guinea?
	By name, I cannot identify that.
	Well, that guy in the middle with the big red hat, Colonel Mamaday Dumbuya, that's him with a bunch of U.S.
	service members outside of our embassy.
	And just months after this photo was taken in 2021, he led a coup in Guinea and threw out the leader.
	Does that concern you?
	Core values is what we start off with in our I.M.A.
	programs.
	What?
	Do we stick to core values with Colonel Dumbouya?
	Core values.
	I will repeat that.
	Core values.
	Respect for humanity.
	Do we share those values with Colonel Dumbouya?
	Absolutely.
	In our curriculum.
	You do?
	He let it cou.
	We do.
	Okay, that's a very telling answer.
	He let it cou.
	Core values.
	Core values, Congressman.
	F all these people.
	And this guy has a uniform, he's got a whole bunch of fruit salad all over the place.
	Langley, let's see if you've seen any action.
	So this guy, who's the head of AFRICOM, should know everything.
	Of course.
	He should recognize the people, he should know exactly what's going on.
	He doesn't know anything, which means he's got nothing to do with it.
	Let's see.
	Military.
	He was commissioned as Second Lieutenant in 1985.
	Operation Wildfire in Western United States.
	Marine forward deployed in Okinawa.
	Not during wartime, of course.
	course.
	She was advisory support command Southwest in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.
	He's seen no active duty as far as I can tell.
	No action.
	No, no, no action.
	Active duty, yeah.
	No action, no action as far as I can tell.
	Let me see, what is the awards?
	He's got Defense Superior Service Medal, the Oak Leaf Cluster, Legion of Merit, Defense Meritorious Service Awards.
	Global War on Terrorism Service Medal.
	Oh, brother.
	You know?
	And it's core values.
	Get out of here, man, with your core values.
	What does that mean?
	Democracy?
	Is that what the core value is?
	It's sick.
	Everything is sick.
	It's sick, it's sick, it's sick.
	Sick.
	Speaking of sick, Let's go to some LGBTQQIAPK plus Noodle Boy stuff.
	It's kind of slash Big Pharma.
	The CDC reports autism rates in the US are skyrocketing, especially in California.
	Okay.
	We still don't know exactly why, where autism comes from.
	Some say it's from too many vaccinations as children.
	There's a lot of mom groups who claim that that's the case.
	This, of course, would be refuted by Big Pharma.
	But now we have something special for those.
	And autism, they put you on a spectrum.
	No, this is part of the DSM four or five or six.
	I don't know what what number we're up to.
	This is a diagnostic.
	I mean, it's a spectrum.
	So I am for sure with Tourette's on the autism spectrum.
	I have not been diagnosed as on the spectrum, but You know, maybe you even have in your family people who could actually be diagnosed on the spectrum as having autism.
	It's not all children who just won't talk or whatever or walk on their tippy toes or like to spin.
	That's all spectrum stuff.
	That's all autism.
	But now we have to take it to the extreme.
	This morning, controversy over special decals for drivers with autism meant to help keep them safe.
	A bill proposed in Rhode Island would allow drivers on the autism spectrum to add the word autism to their license or their vehicle's license plate.
	The decals would be optional.
	The goal is to ensure a driver with autism is not deemed a threat if they're stopped by police.
	A nonverbal teen with autism testified in support of the bill.
	The goal is to avoid misunderstandings between the officer and the driver.
	But some people with autism... How is that the nonverbal teen?
	She said a non-verbal teen testified in favor of the bill and then some dude talking?
	Non-verbal teen with autism testified in support of the bill.
	The goal is to avoid misunderstandings between the officer and the driver.
	But some people with autism oppose the idea.
	One critic saying, it is literally labeling us and putting us into a box rather than uplifting and supporting us.
	Others support the bill's intention, but say it goes too far.
	If there's a subtle way to say there's somebody who has a different communication style, there's somebody who has specific medical needs, there's somebody who is medically fragile in the car, that is important information for them to have.
	But how do we do it discreetly so it's not screaming out to the whole world?
	Oh, man.
	Either you can drive or you can't drive.
	What is this?
	We need a sticker.
	Oh, I may get nervous around you.
	What is this?
	Answer me!
	I have no idea, it's nuts!
	Let's see, there's a second part to this clip.
	New figures out this week show the number of children with autism is rising.
	The CDC recently studied eight-year-olds across the country and found one in 36 of those children, or nearly 3%, was diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder.
	Experts say the increase doesn't necessarily mean autism itself is a bigger problem.
	They say the increase is likely due to more children getting screened.
	Okay.
	Well, we're getting off this crazy stuff.
	Let's do this one.
	This is transgender athletes getting banned finally.
	Yes, I've followed this as well.
	World Athletics voted on Thursday to ban men who now identifies women from competing in elite female competitions and tighten testosterone restrictions for other athletes.
	The council has agreed to exclude male to female transgender athletes who have been through male puberty from female world ranking competitions from March 31st this year.
	World Athletics President Sebastian Coe said that the decision to exclude all those who had gone through male puberty was based on what he said was the overarching need to protect the female category.
	The new rules will also impact athletes with what is known as differences in sex development, or DSD.
	The most famous might be South Africa's two-time Olympic 800m winner Kastor Semenya, who has XY chromosomes and blood testosterone levels in the male range.
	The council vote will require DSD athletes such as Semenya and Namibia's silver medalist Christine Mboma to take testosterone reducing medication and maintain low levels of hormone for two years before they are cleared to compete.
	This DSD thing is real.
	I've been reading up on that.
	There's a high amount of people who have this DSD where their chromosomes are different and they actually have more male chromosomes even though they may just, you know, completely be female or male or whatever it is.
	Yeah, a lot of people think that might be due to chimeras that form in the womb.
	Where you have, like, male-female twins, and one of them eats the other one when they're down at the zygote level.
	Well, this reminds me of, uh... Vonnegut.
	What was that short story?
	It's about Vonnegut.
	His short story, um... Harrison Bergeron.
	Oh, yeah.
	Right, right.
	Well, we live in a dystopian society, and, you know, the beautiful, svelte ballerina is too good, and they have to make her equal with everybody else, so they put weights on her as she's dancing, or, you know, they give her wooden shoes or something.
	It's like, everyone, you know, it's like, oh, if you see too well, then you have to put glasses on that don't make you see as well as the rest, so you're more equal.
	How far will it go?
	I want to hear your second clip.
	So none of these athletes will be eligible to compete in the World Athletics Championships in Budapest in August.
	They will be eligible to compete in other events after that six-month period, including the Paris Olympic Games next year, if and only if they maintain their testosterone at the required level.
	The move for the ban comes as athletes born male have innate physical advantages over those female opponents.
	The majority of those consulted stated that transgender athletes should not be competing in the female category.
	The tighter measures around one of the most contentious and divisive issues in sport follow a similar move by World Aquatics in 2022 co-announced the formation of a working group which will be chaired by a transgender athlete to further study the issue of trans inclusion.
	I do have an ABC 32nd report on this, which we should listen to.
	A major decision in the world of international sports.
	Track and Field's governing body is now banning transgender athletes from competition.
	The decision bans athletes who transition from male to female and who have gone through male puberty.
	The organization is saying it took the step, quote, to protect the female category.
	It effectively blocks trans athletes from the 2024 Olympics.
	In response, transgender athlete Leah Thomas said, quote, this rule is devastating and only detrimental to women's sports.
	It only serves to exclude any women who are not deemed woman enough.
	Ah, not woman enough.
	No mention of the Chimera issue here in this report.
	No, they never mention that.
	And also, this organization, they don't determine how the Olympics work.
	I did look them up.
	They don't determine that.
	The IOC determines that.
	So I don't know why they're saying this.
	No one cares about the Olympics.
	No one watched.
	No one can compete.
	I mean, will China be allowed to compete in the Olympics after that balloon thing?
	Will Russia be allowed to compete?
	Russia will be banned for sure.
	How about Russia?
	You're kind of keeping out a lot of athletes that are interesting.
	Or would they be able to participate not under the Russian flag as they've done before?
	Yeah, some white flag of surrender.
	One more thing that I wanted to share, because I got this new great tool called TranscriptSearchTool.com, which Stephen B. of Podcasting 2.0 made, and you can use it, anyone can use it.
	You can go in, you can say, okay, I want to search No Agenda, and then it'll bring up all the No Agenda podcasts, which are a lot, it turns out, they have the term No Agenda in it, we're working on that.
	And then you can search the transcript.
	Now, we've only been doing transcripts for a couple of years, but I've also been doing this for MoFax, and we were talking about the drill rap the other day.
	On the last show, which is, uh, Drill Rap is, you know, is this, it's kind of the new music business, uh, where you, you, you got young rappers, hip-hop, well, rappers, I should say, killing each other, and then they're doing videos about it, and this is, you know, getting attention of the Algos, and it's basically the new music business, and, uh, what most
	He predicted, he said, this will be the reason for the 2024 crime bill, which he's presuming that Biden will do a repeat of the 1994 crime bill, where we had Lil' Yummy, the super predator, the nine-year-old with the gun on the cover of all the magazines, and this was the problem, and that resulted in the incarceration of millions of black men in America.
	And that this is about to happen again, and they've set it up perfectly.
	There's a huge lack of law enforcement.
	There's a lack of cadets.
	People don't want to be in law enforcement anymore.
	There's poor training, and there's crime everywhere.
	Austin, Texas, now is people getting mugged in broad daylight.
	This has not happened since I lived here.
	And it's happening on a regular basis.
	There are no go zones in East Austin, where I used to live.
	It's crazy.
	So I just wanted to share the new music business because I got producers from all over the world saying, oh yeah, this drill rap, it's happening in the Netherlands, it's happening in the UK, it's happening in Sweden.
	And it happened in New York and they had Fox 5 embedded with the arrest.
	Look at all these kids.
	Look at all these black kids.
	Look at them all.
	They're doing drill rap.
	This is it and it's coming down.
	This is your problem reaction solution sequence.
	A minute and a half of Mo explaining.
	So Drill Rap is basically, they've turned rap music into this online kind of video game, or social media game, where the rappers, they shoot at each other, they make videos about it, and they rap about the people that's being killed.
	Right.
	And it just keeps ramping up.
	It started in Chicago, then it made its way all across, you know, the United States and even in the UK.
	And it's spreading all over Europe.
	And what it did was it started, we made the show about the trap.
	That was, I think, 55 Trapper's Delight.
	Yeah.
	It was kind of a morphing of that, which Chicago took it.
	And basically it's the online game is, This is like the fast track to a rap career.
	You get in this, you start, you know, going back and forth.
	Killing people.
	Killing each other.
	Killing each other, shooting at each other.
	Then that gets the algorithm going.
	Get picked up by a major label.
	Right, the major labels look for whoever's being talked about on YouTube because you have this whole other industry that's kind of disgusting of people reporting on this.
	Like an MTV of drill rap.
	Pretty much, and they don't really have any skin in the game, but they pour gas on it, and then that gets the attention of the record labels, which is the end goal of the rappers in the first place.
	So this is the new music industry.
	There you go.
	And the mayor of New York says, not all drill rap is bad.
	What?
	The Mayor of New York?
	That makes no sense.
	Oh yeah?
	Yeah, I'm thinking about, you know, how we have a new DA in Oakland now, who's one of these, the fact they've already, the judge already excoriated her.
	They're trying to let some murderous kid off.
	Killed three people, he wants to give him 15 years.
	And all very bad types of killing, including a witness in another case, which the judge, that's a really Judges do not like that.
	When witnesses get killed?
	No, it kind of ruins the whole system.
	The system doesn't work.
	It has to be another Soros sister.
	And I'm wondering if maybe, you know, we're always thinking, what is Soros really up to?
	Maybe Soros and the people that are promoting these weak district attorneys who are really responsible for most of this, Maybe this is exactly the reason you put them in office, to create a crime wave that then gets you another crime bill, which creates huge prison populations.
	Yep.
	I mean, we always think of Soros as trying to, you know, because he's a liberal libtard or whatever you want to call him, and he just wants to have, you know, Less incarcerated people.
	Maybe it's just the opposite.
	Maybe it's just for money.
	He's getting... And that's all he does.
	Everything's for money.
	He could be heavily invested in these private prisons.
	Could come back into play as big money makers.
	No, no, no.
	I think it's gonna be something different.
	Because it's not just the prisons.
	We now have no cops.
	In Austin, Texas, there's drag races and spin, you know, donut contests right where we used to live, right at intersections, and the cops are getting, you know, shot with the firecrackers.
	They're running away from it.
	No.
	What we're going to get is two things.
	If I was Soros, which I'm not, here's what I'd invest in.
	Private security, because all the rich people are going to have private security.
	That's where the cops are going.
	All the cops I know, LEOs, they're all going into private security companies.
	So, you have rich neighborhoods, they have their own security companies taking care of them, and the rest are going to get drones and cameras and all kinds of nasty shit like that.
	Sorry, though.
	A lot of cameras.
	Yep.
	A lot of cameras and drones.
	And, you know, the drones will zap you.
	Yeah, oh yeah!
	I think it's a drone with a .45 mounted.
	No, probably more like a Taser.
	I'd say, what is it, L3?
	What are all those A-holes?
	Remember those guys?
	Chertoff, Chertoff Group?
	Well, when one city hires an entire police force from outside, maybe that's what Prince is up to with his group.
	Oh, could be.
	Why not?
	Could be.
	Well, look, I know enough cops who have just given up.
	They're like, I can't do it.
	Everything I do is wrong.
	I'm on pins and needles.
	People throw stuff at me.
	They taunt me.
	They spit at me.
	These are people I'm supposed to be protecting.
	There's domestic disputes.
	Cops get hurt in this thing.
	And then if they hurt somebody back, And of course there's bad cops, no doubt about it, but is that the majority?
	No, I don't think so.
	If they hurt someone, if they kill someone, they get put on public display as a racist and a killer.
	There's no backup from their chief of police, there's no backup from the mayors, and then what do you get?
	You get really bad diversity hires.
	Who are literally not big enough to handle large perpetrators.
	You get poorly trained agents.
	No, no.
	I mean, they're quitting.
	They are quitting left and right.
	They want no part of it.
	The DEI stuff within the police departments is outrageous, the stories I hear.
	I could do a podcast.
	It would be a podcast.
	Just cops who have quit.
	And why?
	Well, I'm sure the stories would be fascinating.
	I hear them all the time.
	Some of them are quite funny, but gory.
	I have to say, the amount of cops who take selfies with dead people is pretty sick.
	Yeah, well, that would be.
	All right, well, on that high note... Woo!
	That's right, everybody!
	Sorry about that.
	I have something scary, if you want a scary clip, or...
	Well how about something funny we can end?
	Well let me do a scary clip and then you don't you have something funny?
	I have something I can complain about which is kind of funny.
	Okay let me let me do this because it's from France 24.
	You know we've had COVID and it's time to ratchet up something else.
	They did a 12 minute piece.
	I pulled a minute from it.
	Scary scary music.
	Scary pandemic coming.
	This highly infectious strain of bird flu has been ripping through farms for a number of years now.
	Influenza A, also known as H5N1, was first detected at a goose farm in China in 1996.
	China!
	It spread through entire flocks of birds, through the animals' droppings and saliva.
	It's the fourth wave of avian influenza to grip Europe since 2015, and its worst outbreak on record, with nearly 50 million poultry culled in 2022, 16 million in France alone, one of the countries hit hardest by the disease.
	The way the disease is expanding has also set off alarm bells.
	It usually flares up in autumn before fading away in spring and summer.
	This outbreak though has defied all seasons.
	But what really has scientists concerned is the flu's pandemic potential.
	There's potential!
	Actions have been reported across a wide spectrum of birds and other species, including mammals.
	There's one question on everyone's mind.
	What about human transmission?
	So far, H5N1 is a low risk to humans, but authorities are on high alert.
	The more it continues to spread, the greater the chances it may evolve.
	Every mutation is now being watched closely to avoid this scenario.
	I think they should bring out the raccoon dog for that.
	Okay.
	So, just a little educational tip for people out there, relenza is supposed to be effective against the birds.
	Relenza, yes.
	Can you get that on prescription or can you get OTC?
	No, no.
	Call your friendly doctor and get some relenza.
	And of course, ever since the PCR test has been used on birds, that's why we've killed 50 million of them, they're doing PCR tests.
	It's a scam.
	Hello?
	Everything's a scam.
	Everything's a scam.
	All right, last one to laugh about.
	What you got?
	Okay, I got a public service announcement that's full of crap.
	This is educational.
	I will correct the inaccuracy and this is a BS public service announcement from PG&E.
	Natural gas has a distinctive rotten egg smell to it.
	If you think you smell gas, you need to act fast by leaving the area and calling 9-1-1.
	Once you are safe, call PG&E at 1-800-THERE'S-LOT-OF-DOUBT-HERE-GOES-IN-THIS.
	Okay.
	I smell gas!
	Okay, it's not a distinctive rotten egg smell in natural gas.
	They put in a mercaptan, which is a skunky smell.
	Rotten egg smells specifically hydrogen sulfide, which is an incredibly toxic gas that stinks to high heaven.
	It smells like rotten eggs.
	And this is our experts at PG&E telling us rotten egg smell when it's not rotten eggs.
	That's just your neighbor decomposing.
	Thank you for that public service announcement, John.
	I feel much safer now knowing that.
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	We got the 00 Top Ten Show with Sir Rhino the Bearded up next on noagendastream.com.
	That's cool.
	Haven't heard Sir Rhino the Bearded in a while.
	Is he doing that live?
	I don't know if he's doing it live or not, but it's a great show.
	It's all music that he has licensed specifically for the test, which is good.
	And we'll be back on Thursday to...
	Put the bass into your face, whatever Darren O'Neal says.
	We will be deconstructing.
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	Ahoy, ahoy!
	And such.
	Let me now bring in Congressman Dusty Johnson.
	He's a Republican from South Dakota.
	Dewey Cox.
	Dusty Johnson.
	He's a Republican from South Dakota.
	Dewey Cox.
	I do think we want to be strategic and forward-looking.
	I do think... I do think... I do think...
	Get, I think, more provocative.
	If we can't push back hard against Russian imperialism and Russian aggression in this instance, we're going to see greater issues that we're going to have to deal with down the line.
	By a growing axis of evil, that being Russia, North Korea, China, Iran.
	Get, I think, more provocative.
	What would Ronald Reagan do right now?
	He would start shooting Russian planes down if they were threatening our ass.
	Threatening our ass.
	They shot down our drone.
	Threatening our ass.
	Get, I think, more provocative.
	Dusty Johnson, he's a Republican from South Dakota.
	They shot down our drone.
	We don't talk about Brandon.
	We don't talk about Brandon.
	It was election time.
	Economy was booming and there wasn't a cloud in the sky.
	No clouds allowed in the sky.
	Brandon walks in, scammed him.
	It begins.
	It's science.
	You tell him the story, oh my.
	Sorry my son, go on.
	Brandon says six feet apart.
	That's what they tell us.
	That's freaking crazy!
	It's freaking crazy.
	No question what the experts say.
	Just give facts to your slaves.
	We don't talk about Brandon.
	No, we don't talk about Brandon.
	I used to see.
	Brandon stuttering and stumbling I can't always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling I associate him with the sound of Go, you know the thing He takes heavy sniffs of the kids It's a frightening Always fall asleep, always supposed to be speaking Rappling with words that no one understands Not a joke, think about it A four-year term Creeps so in my house.
	What's the build back?
	Not a joke.
	Think about it.
	Somebody else.
	But the one good thing is salvaged from this mess.
	It's all the means about Brandon.
	It's been two years.
	They say it's for your health.
	What have we got to show?
	Pfizer's got the wealth.
	Economy's crap.
	You know who we can pay.
	If this is normal now.
	We're gonna need some serious help!
	But who could save us?
	I don't know, buddy, but I'm really scared.
	Could the government help?
	Hey, yeah, they could just print up some more money.
	Isn't that inflation?
	Nah, it's just paper.
	Cool!
	Thanks, Brandon!
	You wanna six feet in the ground?
	Not what they tell us!
	Double mask up in your car?
	That's freaking crazy!
	Triple jab right in your arm?
	How am I still positive?
	C'mon, man!
	We all talk about Brendan and... C'mon, man!
	Let's go Brandon, I agree.

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