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	Hey, you guys are working for us.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Devorah.
	It's Thursday, March 2nd, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Kid Von Nation media assassination episode 1534.
	1534.
	This is no agenda.
	Tickling your amygdala and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I await the next episode of Picard.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	The most emailed comment on the last show?
	Was, without a doubt, the... You got it all wrong!
	About Star Trek, Star Wars, and Total Recall, The Woman With Three Boobs.
	It's amazing how much attention our producers pay to that kind of stuff.
	I'm glad they do.
	They got nothing else to do.
	Clearly!
	Why do anything else?
	That's what you... You gotta set curry straight on the three boob lady.
	That's important, people.
	Thank you for all your... your information.
	We had a massive hailstorm at 5 this morning with quarter size hail.
	Quarter size?
	Like the size of a small bouncing ball?
	Yes!
	And we have a metal roof so that woke us up.
	Let me guess, you got awoke.
	We got very awoke.
	The dog was even freaked out.
	The dog, like, slept next to my bed, which she never does on my side.
	Never.
	She never sleeps in our, never even comes into our bedroom.
	She's like, boo-hoo-hoo.
	There's a huge dog, all shivering, boo-hoo-hoo.
	A lot of dogs don't like these kinds of noises.
	Thunder is, like, the worst for them.
	Oh, no, it was cracking thunder and then, um, And then, you know, some of the hail would hit the patio and then bounce against the glass, you know.
	And this morning when I walked Phoebe, there were still clusters of much smaller now, like marble-sized, of hail.
	It was just one of those microbursts right over Fredericksburg.
	Yeah, Texas hail.
	It can be damaging to cars.
	Very damaging.
	Very damaging.
	I wanted to mention for those of you who found us during COVID and are happy that we helped you stay sane, stay with us.
	There's a lot of stuff that you're being psychologically manipulated over.
	And I think that we can keep you on the true and narrow.
	Is that it?
	The true and narrow?
	What is it now?
	What is it?
	The path of the straight and narrow.
	Yeah, straight and narrow.
	There you go.
	Because what I've seen every other podcast do this week, We were right!
	We told you it was from the lab!
	We were right!
	And no one is seeing the bigger picture.
	You mean the bigger picture that we said it was from the lab in 2020?
	No, the bigger picture being this.
	I mean, yeah, we could play clip after clip after clip and show that we were right within two weeks.
	But that's not the point.
	The point is, this is a pivot to China.
	And if you just look at what we have, we've got spy balloons, COVID lab, TikTok, teaming up with Russia, fentanyl.
	It's all about China.
	This is the pivot.
	And no one is spared in this.
	CNBC laid it all out.
	Oh, well, the reminder today was directed towards Elon Musk.
	The Tesla founder had been retweeting posts promoting the theory that coronavirus originated from a Wuhan lab.
	Well, the issue is very sensitive here in China.
	And so the Communist Party paper, the Global Times, warned on its social media site that he could be breaking the pot of China.
	This is a Chinese saying that's similar to biting the hand that feeds you.
	And this warning comes Breaking the pot!
	Breaking the pot is a Chinese proverb similar to biting the hand that feeds you.
	Breaking the pot that feeds you?
	No, breaking the pot is a Chinese proverb similar to biting the hand that feeds you.
	The pot of China.
	Oh, wait, I'm going to go back a little bit.
	Breaking the pot.
	This is...
	The paper of the Global Times warned on its social media site that he could be breaking the pot of China.
	This is a Chinese saying that's similar to biting the hand that feeds you.
	Now this warning comes as Chinese officials, both on a high level as well as on a lower level of the government, are really pulling out all the stops to try to attract U.S.
	investment into China.
	The directive has come all the way from the top, from President Xi Jinping, who's been saying That there should be greater effort to attract more and welcome more foreign capital as well as foreign investment.
	On a local level, officials have been eagerly trying to reach out to international companies, touting how they're relaunching several events around the region and dispatching delegations, prioritizing trade shows in the U.S.
	and Europe.
	Cities, also including Shanghai, have announced that they're going to be having a foreign talent Recruitment drives.
	They do, though, have a lot of work to do.
	The international business sentiment has been quite shaky in the past year because of the zero COVID protocols, the sour US, sorry, the slowing Chinese economy, as well as the political climate.
	American executives, in particular, Joe, are really nervous ahead of that select committee This is a new committee that's focused on China and nobody here wants to be called in.
	No, nobody wants to be seen as a traitor collaborating with China.
	Russia's over, man.
	Russia's out.
	Russia's yesterday's news.
	We'll see, but my concern with this latest thing about the Wuhan lab is that Mike Pompeo Said it came from the Wuhan lab during the Trump administration.
	I happen to have the clip!
	Secretary Pompeo said that he has strong evidence that it did come from the virology lab.
	We've been reporting this every Sunday, by the way, from early on.
	You also said that you saw evidence.
	Can you tell us anything about the intelligence?
	No, but we have a lot of information and it's not good.
	But you know the worst of all, whether it came from the lab or came from the bats, it all came from China and they should have stopped it.
	They could have stopped it at that source.
	I call it the source.
	Right there.
	They made a decision to allow it to escape its borders.
	I don't know if they made the decision, but it got out of control.
	I think more likely it got out of control.
	Senator Kahn said that they didn't want the... This is an interesting clip, and it's why I chose this one, because Trump is almost kind of pushing back against Pompeo, ex-CIA at this point, and saying, well, you know, wherever it came from, China let it happen.
	Trump isn't even pushing it on China as like an intentional bio leak or anything.
	Which was really much more his position, although manipulated by the media.
	Chinese economy to contract 20% and the rest of the world to contract 2%.
	So we were beating them very badly before this.
	We were beating them between the tariffs and other things we were doing.
	And we were going up and they were having a very bad year.
	They were having the worst year they've had in 56 years.
	He had Hong Kong protesters on the streets.
	And they weren't well, and even beyond that.
	And we were really doing well.
	And that is a theory.
	But here's what I know for sure.
	They didn't allow this whole thing.
	They didn't allow people to go into China.
	But they did allow them to go out to the world, including the United States.
	That's why Europe is a mess.
	That's why, look at these countries.
	Russia's having a hard time.
	So quite a different story back then.
	But what is your concern?
	Again, let's go back to this.
	That was like the news cycle back in the day, over two years ago.
	And then it was, I don't know, I thought it was concluded that it was from the lab.
	And then the next thing you know, this comes out just recently.
	And so it's all news.
	And then you have, like you said, your podcast is going on, we told you so.
	What are you talking about?
	This is old.
	Yeah, it's just being, in my mind, it's just being resurrected at this moment.
	But why?
	Why resurrect?
	Oh, you're saying so that you can target China.
	China.
	Yeah.
	It's all about China.
	Now we've got to blame China.
	Blaming China for that's a little water under the bridge, it seems to me.
	No, no, it's just, it's adding, adding to the, everything.
	Okay.
	Are you going to tell me that you don't see the pivot to China?
	Everything is moving toward China.
	Oh, China's doing this.
	China's doing that.
	We have a new house panel.
	Oh, it's all about China.
	China's no good.
	There's something going on with China.
	This is the pivot.
	Sixty percent of the news is about China.
	China, China, China.
	Well, 60% of the news is not about China.
	That's what I'm seeing.
	Most definitely.
	Half the news is about Murdoch.
	No.
	Who cares about him?
	What are you watching?
	You know, you put that in the newsletter.
	That's the ABC.
	If you go to googlenews.com, their top headline is about this trial in South Carolina that nobody cares about, but they're playing up every which way.
	Well, surely you understand why.
	Yeah, it's a distraction, but that's common.
	No, it's a true crime drama.
	Nancy Grace has been pushing this, and the Netflix special is coming out.
	I thought the Netflix special was out.
	Well, they're promoting it heavily now, whether it was out or not.
	It's all for ratings.
	This has nothing to do with... And people love this.
	Yeah, but that's why the news mostly concentrates on getting people to watch TV.
	Yeah.
	I'm not seeing this pivot.
	I mean, they're targeting China for sure, but I don't see a quote-unquote pivot.
	No, I do.
	And here it is.
	It's about this panel, this house panel.
	And the main thing, the pivot, this is what is occupying people's minds, is TikTok.
	That is a continuous hammering of China bad.
	Congress enjoys a rare bipartisan moment today when lawmakers come together to address China.
	Coming together?
	Oh no!
	NPR Congressional Correspondent Deirdre Walsh reports.
	Wisconsin Republican Mike Gallagher chairs a new House committee created to put a spotlight on the threats posed by China.
	He says a recent news story made that job a little easier.
	A Chinese spy balloon drifting over the country and circling our nuclear ICBM facilities has a way of... This is a lie?
	This thing wasn't circling anything.
	Remember, it was just floating around.
	Since when was it circling around ICBM facilities?
	That's just a lie.
	It's like it passed over them before, now it was circling.
	Oh yeah.
	It stopped and it circled.
	Over the country, circling our nuclear ICBM facilities has a way of bringing the threat close to home.
	Illinois Congressman Rajna Krishnamoorthi, the top Democrat on the panel, says his constituents already feel the impact of China's influence.
	Everyone seems to have their own stories, whether they are a small business person or whether they are concerned about the crackdown on dissent or human rights.
	Both lawmakers want to lay out the economic and national security threats posed by China for the American people.
	One area they agree on is banning the social media platform TikTok from operating in the U.S.
	They're concerned the app is taking users' data and its parent company has ties to the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party.
	Gallagher worries about what that means for Americans.
	It can be used to influence the news, what people see and talk about, and therefore to interfere in our society and our politics and our very democracy.
	Ah!
	The looming threat from China on America's economy spurred Congress to act last year, passing a bill investing more than $50 billion for U.S. manufacturers to boost semiconductor production.
	Lawmakers say the use of a surveillance balloon by China only reinforces the need for a comprehensive security plan.
	The rest of the century will be defined by what happens between the United States and China.
	That's Florida Senator Marco Rubio, the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
	This is not just a military challenge.
	China has fused its commercial, military, technological applications in ways no other nation ever has.
	So it's a multifaceted challenge.
	Part of that challenge is also increased China aggression over Taiwan, an island democracy that governs itself, but that China claims as its territory.
	We don't want open hostilities to break out in that part of the world, which could lead to very severe consequences for the region.
	So we can bicker over whether it's a pivot or not, but...
	Hold on.
	Sure.
	So, first of all, I have my phone ringing, but first of all, you're constantly condemning me for the NTD announcers?
	This was NPR!
	This was NPR.
	That was NPR.
	What, did they hire them from NTD?
	Most likely.
	In fact, NTD is on the line for you right now.
	Pick it up.
	They want to know why you're not playing any more clips.
	They're totally pissed off about that.
	I only play NTD clips every third show.
	Do you not have voicemail on that thing?
	Come on, what's going on?
	If it rings one more time, yeah, I'm starting another clip.
	Tonight, CBS News has new information on that classified Department of Energy report that details the origin of the COVID-19 virus.
	The new intelligence points to a possible lab leak in Wuhan, China.
	CBS' Catherine Herridge has more.
	They always bring in the spook girl.
	The spook girl knows it all.
	Mind you, this report came from the FBI, not from the CIA who oversees, not from our National Institute of Health.
	No, it came from the intelligence community.
	So they're now the experts all of a sudden in this type of stuff.
	Well, they always have been for the last 20 years.
	Thank you.
	Okay, no, no.
	Keep playing.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll listen to this.
	I have some comment about this.
	Went inside the Wuhan labs as the pandemic unfolded three years ago.
	Now, two sources close to the U.S.
	government probe into the origins of COVID-19 tell CBS News there is new intelligence that points to an accidental lab leak.
	The sources say the Energy Department has low confidence in the new reporting, though it's not clear whether that reflects weak data or limited intelligence.
	We really do want to know what happened here.
	The White House would not endorse the new finding.
	The intelligence community and the rest of the government is still looking at this.
	There's not been a definitive conclusion.
	Intelligence agencies have not been able to agree on how the pandemic that killed more than a million Americans started.
	Another lie.
	There's no evidence that the pandemic itself, that the COVID itself, killed a million Americans.
	But we'll just take that as fact now.
	...able to agree on how the pandemic that killed more than a million Americans started.
	Several still point to the possibility of natural transmission through animals.
	The first major outbreak occurred at a Wuhan wildlife and seafood market.
	For some reason CBS, the CIA broadcasting system, is pushing back a little bit.
	Getting answers from the Chinese government or PRC has been impossible according to State Department spokesperson Ned Price.
	For more than two years now, the PRC has been blocking, from the beginning, international investigators and members of the global health community from accessing information that they need to understand the origins of COVID-19.
	With more than 7 million deaths worldwide, the lack of transparency has frustrated health experts.
	Why does knowing still matter?
	Knowing the origins of COVID really matters because it will impact how we prepare for the future.
	If this was the result of a lab leak, it may result in tighter Safety procedures in the lab, more regulations on what kind of research is allowed.
	Whereas if this is a natural occurrence, it does point to the need for better surveillance among animal populations, for example, to see what might be brewing as the next virus there.
	So notice, this is the CIA side of the house being very hesitant to agree.
	And it makes me think that Christopher Wray is just taking advantage.
	He's probably in the Silicon Valley cabal.
	Hey, man, we need to be tracking everybody a lot better.
	So either TikTok gives us their data, which is probably no different from Facebook or Instagram, but OK.
	Or, you know, we got to kick them out.
	He said low confidence.
	Their report is low confidence.
	Everyone's jumping around like he said, yeah, we got the smoking gun.
	This is very weird.
	Well, I just find this whole thing to be so deja vu.
	It's just, it's annoying.
	Yeah, I understand that.
	And meanwhile, of course, no one wants to talk about, the CIA specifically wouldn't want to talk about Fort Detrick.
	No, we can't have, you know, in my mind, this Maybe this was just a flu.
	And it's all a hoax.
	Remember, flu went away during COVID.
	It was just gone.
	So maybe it was just a Wuhan flu, which is literally what Trump called it.
	The Wuhan flu.
	And okay, bad flu.
	But maybe it wasn't bioengineered at all.
	Yeah, I'm not buying that one.
	I think it was.
	It was a weaponized, and it did kill people.
	It didn't kill a million Americans, but it was a killer, and then they added on to the killer vaccine.
	The response was a killer.
	The response was to kill people.
	So you don't think there was a COVID?
	I didn't say that.
	I said, it's possible.
	Well, where did flu go?
	Of course.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	Coronavirus is a flu.
	I agree with you that the numbers were exaggerated.
	Coronavirus is a flu.
	I'm just saying.
	I'm not so sure.
	Coronavirus is a cold.
	It's not a flu.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Fine.
	Whatever.
	Well, you know that.
	Meanwhile, you had Kirby on here.
	Now Kirby is gonna... I thought Kirby had something on the ball.
	But I have a clip of Kirby Being asked the question about gain of function, is it okay to do this sort of research?
	And if you listen to this carefully, it's under COVID, if you listen to this carefully, I don't think he knows what gain of function is.
	And now I don't think I know that he knows what he's talking about, about anything.
	Without weighing in one way or the other on origin of the virus, you've made clear that there's no consensus.
	Does the President believe, though, that the reward outweighs the risk when it comes to gain-of-function research?
	Does the reward outweigh the risk when it comes to gain-of-function research?
	That type of research is prudent.
	Say that again?
	Does the President believe that this type of gain-of-function research is prudent?
	He believes that it's important To help prevent future pandemics, which means he understands that there has to be legitimate scientific research into the sources or potential sources of pandemics so that we understand it so that we can prevent them and we can prevent them from happening, obviously.
	But he also believes, and this is why he wants the I think he knows exactly what he's talking about.
	He's just couching it the way everyone else is.
	has to be done and must be done in a safe and secure manner as and as transparent as possible to the rest of the world so that so people know what's going on i think that's a fancy way of saying yes i think he knows exactly what he's talking about he's just couching it the way everyone else is like oh yeah well it was from a lab so you know now we know we have to be careful when the next one comes i i think it's all gaslighting you Yeah, sure, it was engineered, okay.
	Sure, we shouldn't even be arguing about it because that's what everyone is doing.
	Meanwhile, what's next?
	Oh, I think they'll say China is a currency manipulator.
	You watch, it's all, it's all, everything Trump was saying, they're now playing.
	That's deja vu too!
	Of course it is!
	Of course it is!
	And by the way, the reason we didn't catch this the first time around, that this came from China, whether it was made or not, came from China, was because Trump is a xenophobe.
	Trump unleashed this xenophobia.
	He stopped allowing Chinese people to come to the country.
	He then started calling it the...
	Don't even say it.
	He called it something, and he kept on saying China, China, and doing this thing where I was even concerned as someone who had lost family members for Manny to even bring it up.
	And that is really sad.
	The last guy before Biden said anything about this, he made it about Asian people.
	And I'm sure Jon Stewart didn't realize that that's what was happening because I'm sure he didn't know what was going on all over the country with Asian folks getting smacked and hit and people saying stuff to them about bringing the disease.
	I mean, this was this was what was happening.
	And if you know who had not started it with that, had he not made it about that, had he said, listen, this might have come out of a lab, it probably would have been listened to a lot differently.
	Well, I'm glad she's got her act together.
	That's so beautiful.
	Yeah, if only he had said it differently, we would have listened differently.
	Okay.
	Okay, whoopee.
	And of course, it was the response that was the problem.
	It was the lockdowns that was the problem.
	It was all of this.
	The masks.
	That was the problem.
	We know that it simply was not the killer virus that it was promoted to be.
	You agree with me there, right?
	Yeah, the numbers were pretty much the same.
	It was analyzed as the flu.
	It had the same numbers as the flu in terms of its deadliness.
	So something interesting is going down in the UK.
	The lockdown files have been published.
	I don't know if you followed this.
	The Telegraph, a respectable newspaper, I would say, compared to what we mainly read, Daily News and The Sun.
	The Telegraph published... Still pretty... The Telegraph?
	It's a mouthpiece for the Democrats.
	They were very anti-Trump during their era.
	You mean the Liberals?
	I mean, this is UK, right?
	Yeah.
	The Telegraph.
	When I say Democrats, I'm referring to Americans.
	Oh, oh, okay.
	Well, no, this is a purely UK-based thing.
	No, I understand that.
	I understand completely.
	But when it came to talking about American politics, they were very pro-Democrat.
	Oh, okay.
	And they do talk about American politics quite a bit.
	So the lockdown files consist of 100,000 WhatsApp messages, which have revealed some things about the lockdown.
	Catherine, these are fairly explosive allegations.
	Yes, they certainly are.
	Broke late last night with the Telegraph front page, saying fundamentally that Matt Hancock, who was of course Health Secretary, ignored the advice of Chris Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer, to test Everybody going in to a care home.
	Now that of course is pretty damning and it has come from a hundred thousand WhatsApp messages that journalist Isabel Oakeshott handed over to The Telegraph.
	Now Isabel co-wrote Matt Hancock's pandemic diaries along with him and so was previously very friendly with him and now has that has obviously Soured.
	Now Matt Hancock's team are absolutely incandescent with rage.
	They're saying that this is flat-out wrong, that the story has been distorted because there's a WhatsApp message referring to a meeting.
	They say in that meeting Matt Hancock was told, although he wanted to test everybody going into care homes, that they simply didn't have The capacity and that is why he was therefore only able to test people going into care homes that were coming in from hospital.
	So they are very angry they're threatening legal action.
	Isabel Oakeshott apparently would have signed a non-disclosure agreement and was writing in Matt Hancock's support when the pandemic diaries came out of basically that history would reflect that he'd done his best but that looks rather different today.
	Yeah, here's the takeaway.
	One, don't trust journalists.
	They'll screw you.
	If they can.
	Two, erase your messages, people!
	WhatsApp is, I'm sure that's not government level messaging approved protocol.
	I would think.
	That doesn't seem like a smart thing to have hanging around.
	In the lockdown files, we also learn the UK health authorities considered ordering the euthanization of all pet cats in the country.
	Wow.
	Can't believe they missed that opportunity.
	That's great.
	So, Europe is taking the TikTok thing very seriously.
	They're even presenting it as like legislation is done, TikTok's leaving America.
	Now the U.S.
	House of Foreign Affairs Committee has voted to give President Joe Biden new powers for an outright ban of TikTok and other social media apps.
	Lawmakers voted 26 to 16 to approve the measure.
	Republican Committee Chair Michael McCaul sponsored it.
	Democrats on the committee opposed the bill.
	TikTok is used by more than 100 million Americans.
	The measure would need to be passed by the full House and US Senate before it can go to Biden.
	TikTok has come under increased scrutiny on both sides of the Atlantic as Western countries take a critical look at the Chinese company's reach and the security risks it may pose.
	Yeah, so this thing is... So why don't you explain to the audience, what's the security risk?
	Oh, the security risk?
	There's some guy jumping off the roof onto a rubber ball and then hitting the ground and hurting his back.
	Well, okay.
	Classic TikTok video.
	Yes.
	This is the Deterring America's Technological Adversaries Act, also known as the DATA Act, because, you know, data is like oil.
	Today's oil is like the data.
	So what they're saying is absolute bunk because there is no more or less data that TikTok as an app can glean than Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc.
	I don't think they can get as much as Facebook.
	Facebook is probably getting more, you may be right, but because when you sign up It says, hey, you know, if you use TikTok anywhere else, not necessarily in the app, even though they can do it in the app.
	Everyone can track your keystrokes in any app.
	In fact, you can see their software developer kits available where you can literally pick a user and replay their action like an instant replay.
	You can see the movement on the screen.
	So it's partially Bullcrap?
	No, it's 100% bullcrap that, oh, we have to get rid of TikTok because my assertion is TikTok is really eating Silicon Valley's lunch.
	That's, by the way, to fall back on it, that is, no matter what anyone says about TikTok or even your current assertions, that's the reason.
	Yes, for this, but it's being spun into, we can't have the Chinese PRC, we can't have them getting data on our people.
	We want to track our people, we can't have someone else doing that.
	It's so cynical.
	So the national security problem is, or the, here's how they're playing.
	It's a national security issue and that's why we have to do this.
	Here in Washington tonight, the crackdown on TikTok continues.
	The White House today gave government agencies 30 days to remove the video sharing app from all federal devices and computer systems.
	An emergency?
	Why 30 days?
	Why not 30 hours?
	Well, I have another question that's above that.
	It's more meta.
	What is TikTok or any product like that doing on any federal device?
	What's it doing there?
	I'm working for the government.
	I've got a government to hand me a phone.
	And so what am I going to do?
	Dick around on TikTok and they're going to allow that?
	What's it doing there in the first place?
	I'd track down everyone who had TikTok on the phones and fire them.
	It's interesting you bring that up.
	Someone just sent me this this morning.
	The Department of Homeland Security has ordered... I guess they give them iPhones?
	So they have a deal with Apple and they hand out government iPhones to them.
	Their iMessage will be disabled, I think within the next week, and they will only be able to communicate via SMS text message.
	So the government is disabling, I think, probably the security factor of the encryption.
	Maybe Apple doesn't want to crack encryption of people sending messages within Department of Homeland Security.
	I'm not sure.
	Deactivation of the iMessage service.
	DHS is mandated as of Wednesday, March 1st, yesterday.
	The Apple iMessage service option on DHS furnished Apple devices must be disabled.
	All text messages will be handled through cellular carrier short message service or multimedia message services.
	So, You know, they're cracking down on something.
	But why?
	You see the immediacy of the iMessage, but not the TikTok.
	30 days.
	I think there was also a 90-day limit here.
	The Office of Management and Budget says the move is aimed at protecting U.S.
	data.
	Officials suspect that China is using the app to spy on Americans.
	There you go!
	The ban does not impact the more than 100 million Americans and teens who use TikTok on non-government devices.
	Yeah, but it's just, that's how it's gonna happen.
	You have to ask yourself, why, you know, why doesn't Apple be a good citizen here and take it off?
	Well, we all know why.
	People would throw away their iPhones.
	I need my TikTok!
	Nobody needs TikTok, especially on a government product.
	People are addicted to TikTok.
	No, I mean, I look at TikTok.
	I don't usually use my phone to.
	I will go on, you know, someone will have a link to something and I'll play it on the web.
	I'm not tracking anything there.
	The main issue here is the people who voted against this, which is of course all the Democrats, but also some Republicans on the committee, clearly.
	I think I'm gonna have to find out who did.
	It's like, you know, this gives the president extraordinary powers.
	What?
	Yeah, being able to just throw any app out of the App Store because of, you know, national security issues.
	That's the way it's written up.
	It gives the President the authority to do this.
	Which I find weird.
	Why wouldn't you just have Congress make a law and say no TikTok or nothing from China?
	Why bother?
	So Gretchen Whitmer had the best line about this whole thing.
	She said that she's not worried about TikTok because she's only got one phone.
	What?
	That's what she said.
	How is that good news?
	Well, that's what she said.
	I don't know what it means.
	She just said TikTok's not worrisome because she only has one phone.
	That's so odd.
	I don't know what she means by that.
	It's what you want.
	It's what you want for your governor.
	Hmm.
	Well, it's interesting to see that Apple won't block TikTok, which is clearly, you know, un-American.
	Un-American to have that on your platform.
	By the way, you don't hear anyone saying that.
	You know, why isn't Marco Rubio or McCall from Texas, why aren't they saying, you know, Apple and Google, they're un-American by allowing this in their App Store?
	Wouldn't that solve it?
	But no.
	Apple did, however, block an email program, which I think is called email blue or something.
	And the reason why is because this app will write emails using AI, chat GPT.
	So Apple says, you know, we have a lot of concern about this, so we have to block that from the App Store.
	Blue mail is what it's called.
	Your app includes AI-generated content but does not appear to include content filtering, is the reason.
	So this is all bullcrap, all of it.
	They're all full of crap.
	And for as far as I can see, let's not call it a pivot, but as far as I can see, this is all about focusing everybody on China.
	Let's just get this Ukraine war over with, let's focus on China.
	Here's my Ukraine clip.
	That's all I got.
	It's 22 seconds.
	That's all I got about Ukraine.
	With Ukrainian forces coming under relentless assault in the city of Bakhmut, military officials now say they may be prepared to pull some troops back.
	Remarks appearing to suggest Russia could capture the eastern city that is viewed as a symbol of Ukrainian resistance to Russian occupation.
	Kremlin forces have staged a bloody month-long offensive to take the city, which has pretty much become a ghost town.
	Yeah, I have a couple more clips.
	We start with what you will never see on the M5M here in the United States, and you'll barely see it on the M5M in the EU, where this is going down.
	This is from, I think, France 24.
	Marching for peace in Ukraine, hundreds took to the streets of London on Saturday, urging a ceasefire and negotiations with Russia to end the conflict.
	Among them supporters of the campaign for nuclear disarmament, warning that any escalation in fighting would increase the chances of a nuclear war.
	Many wanted to see an end to Western military support for Ukraine.
	It would help if we stopped saying, we'll just give you lots more weapons until you win the war.
	It's not going to happen like that, you know.
	Ukrainians are really tough, Russians are really tough, and NATO is really rich.
	So, that's all the ingredients you need for a kind of endless war.
	Well, this demonstration is one of many happening over this weekend across Europe.
	Now, for these demonstrators, arming Ukraine is simply making things worse and prolonging the conflict.
	But others take a very different approach.
	In the Belgian capital, many of those marching in solidarity with Ukraine were actually refugees from that country.
	We need the weapons for our defence.
	We need the sanctions against Russia.
	We need economical support because we defend not only our land, we defend all democracy world.
	While in Berlin, a bigger protest, at least 10,000 turned up to say no to the idea of Germany arming Ukraine.
	We're demonstrating for peace and against intervention of our government in that war that is not ours.
	The people that voted for those politicians, they did not know that they will push us into war and send weapons into countries that are in war.
	This is even against our constitution.
	So different messages, and no end in sight to the misery inflicted on the people of Ukraine.
	Yeah?
	Alright, so we have everyone except Brussels.
	Brussels is all, eh, that's whatever it takes, Brussels.
	I wonder why Brussels, hmm.
	Well, Biden keeps saying whatever it takes, and then Trudeau recently says whatever it takes.
	And Janet Yellen?
	Surprise visit to good old Volodymyr?
	She just popped by Ukraine to say hi?
	As we mark one year since the beginning of this full-scale invasion, the message I bring you from President Biden is simple.
	America will stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes.
	U.S.
	Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen swept into Kiev on Monday in a surprise visit to reaffirm U.S.
	support for Ukraine as it fights Russia's invasion, highlighting U.S.
	economic aid that is bolstering Ukraine's war effort.
	And today I'm proud to announce the transfer of an additional amount of more than $1.2 billion.
	That's the first tranche of about $10 million in direct budget support that the United States will provide in the coming months.
	Yellen met with President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmihal.
	Shmihal said the two discussed further U.S.
	sanctions on Russia, as well as confiscating frozen Russian assets.
	You know what's missing?
	Well, I'm still hanging at the frozen Russian assets.
	They're going to take the Russian money to rebuild.
	They're not going to get away with that.
	Yes they are!
	Of course they are!
	No they're not.
	They're not going to get away with that.
	They're not going to take it.
	Why not?
	Why not?
	Because it's illegal.
	It's against international law to do what they're going to try to do.
	Okay.
	Name the international law and who maintains this international law.
	I'm just telling you that's not going to happen.
	If you think it's going to happen, okay, we'll put a dollar on it.
	Done.
	Here's what's missing.
	When's the bet end?
	As long as it takes.
	I'll never get my dollar.
	So there's something missing from all these reports.
	If you remember, well you don't want to remember the Vietnam War and some of these other wars, they would usually have a daily death toll.
	There has been very little talk of the death toll.
	It's as if they're wiping out the male reproductive Aged males that are getting killed left and right.
	Now they're running teens out there.
	They're killing off the population of Ukraine for some reason.
	And I'm wondering if it's not being done on purpose.
	They're not telling us about the casualties at all.
	That is very interesting because I came across this report from France 24.
	This couple in Kyiv, Svetlana and Nikola, have repeatedly discussed having a child because he is in the Ukrainian army.
	She's 25, he's 30.
	They met just four months before Russia's full-scale invasion a year ago.
	The war accelerated things and made us think about the sincerity of our feelings and the values we share.
	They are now engaged to be married and want a child.
	They aim to freeze and store Mykola's sperm before he goes to the front.
	I suggested it.
	I wasn't thinking of the worst that could happen.
	I told him that if injuries damaged his ability to have children, at least we would have this solution.
	Yeah, so they're just freezing their sperm, sending them off to be killed.
	There was a couple of reports that have come out here and there that say that the average lifespan for a Ukrainian soldier on the front lines is one hour.
	Yeah.
	No, no, they're being slaughtered.
	They're being absolutely slaughtered.
	Of course there's not going to be any count of that.
	No.
	And that's what's missing.
	If anyone remembers war stories from any of the other little battles, they always talk about the casualties.
	They didn't even talk about the casualties in Iraq of the civilians, which was a quarter of a million people, at least.
	But they're just really, you know, they say, well, there's 100,000 Russians killed.
	They sometimes mention that.
	That's what I hear.
	They're killing them all off.
	That's the only thing you'll hear is how many Russians died.
	You're right.
	That's the only thing you hear in that regard.
	Meanwhile, back home, and by the way, you can set any date you want on that on that dollar, because at least I have them saying they're going to do it and saying that they're going to set up a new special court for that.
	And they're going to change international law for that.
	So if you can find something to the contrary, instead of just it's never going to happen, I'd respect that.
	I'll take the dollar after December 1st of this year.
	Oh boy.
	Here is December 1st of this year.
	Good.
	Here's our current warmonger, the ever so peace-loving Sean Penn on CNN with Brolf.
	One thing I'd like to say is, you know, having just returned from Ukraine about 10 days ago or so, is that the impact of President Biden's trip was extraordinary.
	I mean, that's extremely encouraging.
	Ah, yes.
	I think that one of the things that's concerned me and I, you know, I think that there's no question but that they need more ammunition, more long-range precision weapons, and yes, fighter jets.
	Oh yeah!
	And the issue really is that, you know, right now they're dying.
	Every day they're dying.
	So what we're waiting for seems to still be attached to this This is interesting.
	He is saying they're dying, they're dying, they're dying.
	This is actually the only person who's kind of being a little bit honest about that.
	But now he's saying, you know, we need to kill other people!
	You know?
	That we can't have... Hey!
	You can't go outside if you're not vaccinated, says Sean Penn, because you're killing people.
	But meanwhile, I want F-16s to kill people!
	I would argue overcautious concern.
	Warmonger!
	Nuclear weapons, because... And nuclear weapons is not true.
	It's just a joke, according to him.
	For one thing, if we're going to...
	This is interesting.
	Was it not Volodymyr Zelensky who was the first one to say we need nuclear weapons in Ukraine?
	Wasn't he being the bully by saying that?
	A former intelligence officer I'd spoken to in Ukraine at one point, he said, you know, he doesn't want to live in that world and Ukraine won't.
	And so I just think we have to make a clear decision to start By saving lives, saving infrastructure, and by killing other people!
	What that means is supplying the Ukrainians.
	They have no interest in having Americans or others in the fight.
	They're ready to take the fight themselves.
	And their ability to transition on these platforms, be it the F-16s or when it comes to the Patriot, I just love Sean Penn, so indoctrinated by the military-industrial complex, who no doubt are flying him in and out every single time, where now he's talking about these platforms.
	You know, because he's so schooled on the F-16 platform, the Patriot platform, you know, just call it what it is, the Raytheon and Boeing platform.
	Sean Penn, you are a horrible warmonger!
	I don't think there's been an honest conversation about how quickly they can transition.
	I think it's, oh, there's a lot in the air about how long it takes, how maintenance, fueling, all of that.
	But there are a lot, many ways in which that can be, you know, sped up.
	Yeah, now speed it up, everybody.
	We need to speed it up.
	So what is a guy like that?
	He's an actor.
	And he goes over there, and of course he did a little movie or something before, but he's over there now and he's talking to an intelligence officer.
	How many people?
	Former.
	Former intelligence officer.
	I don't think he said former.
	He did.
	He said former.
	Okay.
	But it doesn't matter.
	It just doesn't seem like the kind of thing when you're traveling around under any circumstances you're going to be talking to too many of those guys.
	Why are they talking?
	Hi Sean, good to meet you.
	I'm a former intelligence officer.
	Yeah, that sounds right.
	Then we had our NATO chief.
	It's really, these people are insane.
	Jens Stoltenberg, standing next to the prime puppet minister of Finland, you know, the millennial girl.
	The girl, yeah.
	She's the dancer.
	Yes.
	The party girl.
	The party girl, exactly.
	But she did not bump into the furniture.
	She read her lines after the tee-up from the set-up here, or the alley-oop set-up from Jens.
	NATO Allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a member of our alliance but at the same time that is a long-term perspective.
	What is the issue now is to ensure that Ukraine prevails as a sovereign independent nation and therefore we need to support Ukraine.
	I see that the future of Ukraine is to be part of European Union and also member of NATO.
	We have taken many steps forward when it comes to military aid to Ukraine and I'm very glad that we are now cooperating together much more closely to give Ukraine more heavy weapons.
	I think the discussion now is Heavy weapons.
	She has the Sean Penn talking point.
	Heavy weapons.
	That's what he said too.
	To give Ukraine more heavy weapons.
	I think the discussion now, even though it has taken some time, it's been very important concerning, for example, the Leopards.
	So countries are cooperating together more closely and more widely.
	And this is a very good thing.
	We have to support Ukraine as long as it takes.
	They also need more heavy weapons.
	She's literally gone into a loop, is repeating herself.
	And this is a very good thing.
	We have to support Ukraine as long as it takes.
	And they also need more heavy weapons.
	And the faster and the sooner we can give them more heavy weapons, the sooner the war will end.
	And this is something that we also need, that cooperation between the democratic countries.
	Finland has taken many decisions on armed support to Ukraine and we are willing to continue this as long as it takes.
	Wow, she keeps saying the same thing over and over.
	Yeah, she's caught in the loop.
	As long as it takes.
	She said it at least three times.
	Yeah, but she had the same pen, speeded up, heavy weapons.
	This is all so... By the way, Penn didn't say the former intelligence officer was CIA.
	I mean, whoever it was indoctrinated him good.
	That's how it works.
	Hey man, I'm just giving you some inside info, you know, because I'm former, former CIA.
	Um, so, you know, clearly everyone, all, you know, the agency boys, I'm not supposed to tell you this, but the agency boys tell you, they're like, we really need to speed this up.
	We need to get the heavy weapons in as long as it takes.
	That's how it works.
	I think Sean Penn is dumb.
	It's very possible he's just dumb.
	Sean Penn has a lot of earmarks of a person who's dumb.
	You know, it's like, how else can you come to these conclusions?
	Now Russia, in the meantime, they're, they're...
	They're just piling it on now.
	This is Foreign Minister Lavrov with a translator about the biological warfare that this is really about.
	It has arrived and we have data that the Pentagon is preoccupied about the chemical and biological installations in Ukraine because Pentagon built two biological war labs and they have been developing pathogens there in Kiev and in Odessa and now they are concerned that they may lose control over these labs and you know what it may be like?
	In future and Americans decline flatly and resolutely to start a inspection mechanism as part of the Convention for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons and they build new chemical and biological facilities all across Russian borders.
	And, you know, many other developments happened.
	The CIA has been on the ground, in droves, and they have been training the Ukrainian army not to wage a war with Poland, apparently.
	Really?
	So CIA is swarming, talking to Sean Penn, letting him know, as former intelligence officers, and they're kind of worried about the bio labs, which I think we kind of got confirmation on from Victoria Nuland that they were real.
	That we have biolabs.
	Yes, we do.
	So... Yeah, that's another thing that's deja vu again.
	Just a little bit.
	And ABC had kind of this screwball report.
	Tonight, a series of mysterious drone strikes inside Russia, according to the Kremlin.
	Videos circulating online show an explosion at an oil depot.
	Smoke billowing into the sky.
	Another drone believed to be targeting a gas facility striking deep inside Russia.
	It came within just 60 miles of Moscow.
	The Kremlin blaming Ukraine, but so far no claim of responsibility.
	How can Ukraine send a drone 60 miles from Moscow?
	Are you kidding me?
	That's us!
	Vladimir Putin today ordering his Federal Security Service, the FSB, to take over border security.
	And he even made a rare admission, saying, there have been losses in our ranks.
	Many of those losses are in eastern Ukraine, in Bakhmut.
	Desperate for a win after more than a year of war, Moscow is sending in fighter jets, battering endless buildings with artillery and losing countless lives.
	All to take now ruined Bakhmut.
	Those determined to stay, trying to survive with the relentless sound of gunfire and explosions.
	Buildings burning, but no one is coming to help here.
	But Ukraine's spirit of survival unbroken.
	Today, Ukraine announcing additional units are on their way to Bakhmut.
	The soldier saying, though the city is on fire, Ukraine will live.
	A couple of interesting articles.
	The Pentagon is now saying that, yeah, we are losing a lot of weapons that are going into Ukraine that we're sending, but that's because Russia's taking them.
	Yeah, I saw this report, too, that networks have been promoting this idea.
	Yeah, right.
	That Russia's overrunning these guys and then taking the weapons.
	And they've taken them to Africa, I guess.
	The thing that gets me, I still don't understand why the Russians haven't gone to Afghanistan and picked up the weapons.
	The $80 billion were the stuff we left there.
	I thought ISIS was already moving in to help them personally.
	There's a lot of good stuff there that could be useful.
	Yeah, possibly.
	Zelensky predicted that Putin will be killed by his inner circle, that he'll just wind up getting pushed out of a window.
	Yeah, sure.
	What kind of dawned on me is these freaks who are doing this, the Newlands, the Jake Sullivans, the Ned Prince, the Obamas, okay, Biden for whatever's left of his brain matter, the CIA, the whole government apparatus that wants to do this, that wants to get rid of everybody.
	You know, they did freeze Russia's money, you know, so you can call that theft if you want to.
	But, you know, threw them off the SWIFT system, the 10th round of sanctions, all this stuff going on.
	But there's no Russia-phobia.
	They haven't been able to ignite what was the Red Scare.
	Because no one is afraid of Russians.
	We have Putin-phobia, yeah.
	Oh yeah, Putin, bad guy.
	You know what I mean?
	It doesn't resemble in any way the Red Scare, the commies are coming, or anything like this.
	None of it.
	Yeah, the communists under your bed in the 50s.
	They can't ignite that.
	It's not possible.
	People are too intertwined, mainly thanks to TikTok.
	We watch Russian videos.
	I don't think anyone hates Russians.
	Anyone who's watched the Russian car crash videos.
	Loves the Russians!
	I mean, while we still have that going on, and also while we, you know, we literally shot, we're carrying Russians to the International Space Station.
	Yeah, we just did a launch recently.
	This morning, in fact.
	Let me see, this clip.
	I've asked all the crew members, both Russians and Americans, how do you deal with that on the station?
	That's a lot of tension.
	Do you discuss Putin, and do you discuss Ukraine, or do you just leave it off the table?
	And all of them said, we don't go there.
	We've got very important issues.
	Our lives depend on each other.
	We simply don't talk politics.
	And Russia and America continue this relationship in space because they're partners in the International Space Station and they need each other.
	And so this crew, which will dock to the station tomorrow, is arriving, just as they've also had some drama on the station.
	They've had two Russian spacecraft, over the last few months, develop leaks, coolant leaks.
	One of them, a cargo ship, they had to free up and let go, and it burned up in the atmosphere on re-entry.
	The other one, a Soyuz spacecraft, was supposed to be the lifeboat, in case they had to evacuate the station.
	So they had been without a lifeboat for one American and two Russians.
	Russia just launched another replacement lifeboat, a Soyuz, last week.
	But that's been the concern.
	What has been causing these micro-leaks?
	They think it's a micro-meteor strike that have taken out the coolant systems on a Soyuz and a Progress cargo ship.
	Again, they dock tomorrow, six months on the space station, doing some 200 experiments.
	So a lot of universities are watching very closely.
	Oh, thank you, Tom.
	Riveting.
	Just riveting.
	We're carrying a Russian.
	So we just don't have that Russia-phobia, and so people aren't invested in this.
	And I don't even think we have love for Ukraine.
	It's like, look at Zelensky.
	Isn't he hot?
	Zelensky seems like an asshole.
	Well, of course!
	He's an actor!
	No wonder Sean Penn gets along with him so well.
	Absolutely.
	The, um... I got two more clips here.
	One is... Yeah, the characters, you know, there's no investment in the characters.
	No, there's no character development.
	You're right.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's just like, it's like watching one of these, a movie or something unfold and you don't care about anybody at all.
	No.
	And so you can't, you know, if you don't get invested, you stop watching.
	That's right.
	Oh yeah, I think, I think it's disastrous now for the ratings.
	It's definitely not working for ratings anymore.
	People don't care.
	They're moving on.
	We're much, we're too worried about TikTok being taken away.
	Gotta have that in my vein 24-7.
	France 24 did a very interesting... They call it truth or fake, I think.
	Yeah, they do that.
	We highlighted this a couple years ago.
	I started doing it weekly and then it was not that interesting.
	Oh, so they did one, which I like for a number of reasons.
	One, they are trying to take down Stu Peters, who I think you and I both find a questionable character.
	Absolutely.
	And they're taking down him based on two conspiracy theories.
	And one of them, I wouldn't have even brought up, but since Stu Peters appears, I mean, and when you hear how unhinged he is about this, it's, you know, Zelinsky has a guy, his bodyguard, and the bodyguard looks a bit like him.
	And so, you know, this is a typical telegram item.
	People on telegram.
	Oh, man, look at this.
	Is this body double?
	Is it the real one?
	Is it the body double?
	Now, we know the body doubles exist.
	We've caught a few of them.
	Hillary Clinton, for sure.
	But really, the technology for masks and to have someone else look like, like, be the person you think they are.
	I mean, that was the stuff that you saw.
	What was the Tom Cruise movie?
	Is that Mission Impossible?
	Yeah, Mission Impossible, the old TV shows would show this, and if you listen to the CIA experts, like that woman that was the costumer...
	It sounds like it's beyond our comprehension how good this is.
	And it is.
	I mean, the technology, I have heard firsthand from family members that in the late 60s, this technology was already good enough to fool people.
	And that's probably what the CIA disguised lady shows.
	Well, this is what we were doing 50 years ago.
	So it's going to be much better.
	So that whole premise is just a Stu Peters distraction.
	I know a lot of people love him.
	Like, oh, he's talent like it is!
	He should do a show with James O'Keefe!
	They should team up together and all be on Tim Pool!
	Yes, Fraser.
	This week, Stu Peters, the American far-right influencer and TV host, has published no less than three misleading pieces of information surrounding the war in Ukraine.
	One of them, published just two days ago, shows Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and US President Joe Biden climbing the stairs together in Kiev's Mariinsky Palace.
	Now, in the video attached to these tweets, Uh, we can see a man resembling Vladimir Zelensky appear, follow the two, and then suddenly stop.
	Now, according to Stu Peters, this represents a glitch in the Matrix.
	And what she's doing is she's showing his tweets and she's circling on the big screen.
	Glitch in the Matrix, which, by the way, pisses me off, too.
	Just using the word glitch disqualifies you.
	But, you know, it's like, oh, wow, man, what is this?
	Must be a deep fake.
	What's going on?
	Glitch in the Matrix.
	And he went on to perpetuate the theory that this man is a lookalike or a double of Vladimir Zelensky's.
	Now, this is a theory that we've seen for a long time from Russian propagandists surrounding the war in Ukraine.
	We've covered this a lot here on Truth or Fake before, and it's very visible on pro-Russian accounts on Telegram and on Twitter.
	There you go.
	Notice the, yeah, very pro-Russian accounts.
	Telegram and Twitter, that's where you go.
	That's where you go, hang on, if you're pro-Russian.
	Maxime Donnet.
	He is Volodymyr Zelensky's official bodyguard.
	This is a photo from the same visit published by French media L'Express.
	And as we can see, he does have a similar height and build to the Ukrainian president, but he does have very discernible, distinguishable and different facial features.
	Now we can see him again in these photos published last August with Boris Johnson.
	But again, similar height and build, but they are very, very much different people.
	I just love that they go to such lengths to even discuss this.
	Austin Peters also shared this tweet with his followers earlier this week and this one racked up over 17 million views there.
	Now this is interesting.
	This is, you probably saw the montage where you see all these buildings that were partially or really heavily damaged and they're now all rebuilt and beautiful and pristine.
	Which, in my mind... Now, when I first saw this, I'm like, well, it's easy to just reverse the pictures, you know?
	This is now instead of it was then, but it turns out they have literally been rebuilding these buildings during the war, which I also kind of find, like, odd, considering everything's under attack.
	He posted these two photos of the same building in Ukraine.
	One was taken last year in February 2022 and one from this year in 2023.
	Now, he claims that this war is fake or staged and that these buildings couldn't possibly have been touched by any missiles or bombs because it would be impossible to restore the building to this condition in this time.
	Again, this is a popular pro-Russian theory that we have seen numerous times here.
	Again, even on Truth or Fake, the war being a hoax.
	Now, this building's reconstruction has been pretty heavily documented in both Western and Ukrainian media.
	After Russian troops withdrew from Kiev last March, that is exactly what allowed this building to be rebuilt.
	And as it was discussed quite heavily in this article, from ukraine's the village the building uh was documented stage by stage of its reconstruction fraser okay so i will mention that i find a couple things strange uh russians withdraw from kiev did they ever enter kiev not that i know of that i know of either they had their tanks nearby that they were running down to donbassk and
	And then she says this has been heavily documented in Western media as well as others and then the example she gives is the Keeve Gazette.
	I mean that's we know that trick is an intelligence trick.
	Well according to the Keeve Times.
	So she doesn't quote the New York Times or any other Washington Post or anything like that.
	But in general, it's like, really?
	I didn't know that they actually were rebuilding.
	Well, no wonder we need the money from Russia.
	We've got to pay off the contractors for work already performed.
	Yeah, that is peculiar.
	Final clip is from Douglas McGregor.
	You don't like him?
	We've talked about Douglas MacGregor before, I tried to get a hold of him, but our podcast, The No Agenda Show, is too beneath him to even discuss anything.
	Wow, this comes from some lowly podcast, I can't believe it.
	Yeah, I know, that's what it got me.
	So do we now not trust him?
	No, I don't distrust him, I just think he's a douchebag.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, the question is posed, who's behind this war?
	So, the first question that I wanted to get down to is, who is it that really wants this war between NATO and Vladimir Putin?
	Well, I think it's clear that the American people are largely divorced from the reality of this conflict, as they have been for the last 30 years.
	Divorced from all the conflicts.
	War has always been something that happened far away on somebody else's soil.
	The difference this time is that Washington has decided, along with help and assistance particularly from its allies in London and the global financial community run out of New York City, to wage war on the Russian state.
	With the goal of not simply regime change, but ultimately destroying the state, potentially dismembering it.
	And when you look at the people who are advocates for this terrible, destructive policy, they are largely the same people that got us into the Balkans in the 1990s, into Bosnia and Kosovo, and then subsequently were largely supportive of the interventions in 2001 and 2003.
	Perpetual warfare in the Middle East.
	Demonizing and transforming into an enemy.
	Libya, Syria, and obviously Iran.
	This is an old story.
	It's the same old trope that you've been hearing.
	It's 1936 again.
	We have another potential Hitlerian state and if we don't act, we are appeasers and the world as we know it will end.
	That's about it, but I think there's a lot of money behind this because Russia is full of trillions of dollars of resources.
	Mineral resources, oil, gas, precious metals, agricultural, we just go down the list.
	There was an attempt in the 90s and in the early part of this century by people from the West, many of whom are connected to organizations like Goldman Sachs and the global financial community, to go in and effectively rape Russia and steal everything they possibly could from it.
	They were ultimately defeated and thrown out by Vladimir Putin, who established a new regime to bring some more stability and dignity back to the Russian state.
	It's a trope for sure.
	When you throw out Goldman Sachs, why don't you just say, Well, along with all those NGOs, which Putin figured that out.
	I mean, you have to give Putin some credit for recognizing that the NGOs were fronts.
	Right, but were they connected to Goldman Sachs?
	I didn't know that.
	I don't know that they were or not, but they were fronts and everything had to go.
	I don't know how much Goldman Sachs was involved in any of this.
	He said trope.
	I'm actually accusing him of saying this is the Zionist globalists.
	When you bring in Goldman Sachs and you bring in Goldman Sachs, you're hinting at it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But that's true.
	It doesn't sound right to me.
	I mean, the military industrial complex is a real concise answer to the real question, which was, what's the point?
	Yeah.
	I mean, military industrial complex.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I believe that they're high on their own supply.
	They can't get enough of it.
	They love it.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do more.
	But just to call out Wall Street?
	Maybe.
	I'm skeptical.
	Yeah, I'm skeptical too.
	But you know, until the guy talks to us, he's just on the skeptical list.
	He's never talking.
	Unless he answers our questions.
	You've got to talk to us, man.
	You're no good.
	No good.
	Alright, I think that is the... That's probably the main...
	The main crux of what we've got there just seems like, yeah, we're getting everybody all riled up.
	They're going to take away your TikTok.
	It's going to be bad.
	The TikTok thing is ludicrous.
	It would be.
	I'm all for it, by the way.
	Get rid of TikTok.
	I like TikTok.
	Of course you do.
	It's ruining people.
	I see grown men.
	Doom-scrolling for an hour.
	Well, I've never been that attached to it, but I mean, I will look at stuff.
	And then I do admire the fact that they do try to figure out what you're into.
	Yeah.
	You know, what you're being attracted to.
	The problem is I have these software systems that clear all my caches, throw out the cookies, do all these things every night.
	So I don't know how much, you know, they have to relearn my viewing habits every time I go on TikTok.
	And I only do it maybe a couple of times a week.
	Right, but do you use an account?
	No, I've never signed up.
	Because from what I've seen, once you view one video, if you want to view another one, then it forces you into a sign-up mode.
	No, I've never had that problem.
	I go on there, not signed up, I don't have an account, I go view a video, they throw another one at me, then another, and I can just be there for days if I wanted to be.
	That's never happened.
	Well, that's probably because your cookies are... you're new every single time, you're a new person.
	Maybe.
	Maybe that, yeah.
	Let's see, what other distraction do we have?
	This is a big one here in the United States.
	Back here in Washington, President Biden's plan to forgive student loan debt for more than 40 million Americans is facing its toughest test yet.
	The Supreme Court.
	The justices heard arguments today on two different challenges brought by six Republican-led states and two student loan borrowers.
	CBS's Jan Crawford is outside the Supreme Court.
	Students came to make their voices heard.
	There's a lot of anxiety and fear.
	25-year-old Jenea Moore would see about a third of her... Oh, totally printed signs.
	I mean, they had the union boss, Randy Gardner, right there.
	25-year-old Jenea Moore would see about a third of her $70,000 student loan debt erased under President Biden's forgiveness plan.
	I feel like my life is on the line if it doesn't get canceled.
	She is one of 43 million people eligible for some student loan debt relief.
	Those making less than $125,000 a year could get $10,000 in debt forgiven.
	Those with Pell Grants could get $20,000 erased.
	But that comes at a cost, nearly half a trillion dollars.
	Critics say on an issue this big, Congress has to sign off.
	Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is one of the state Republican leaders urging the court to kill the program.
	As someone who paid for my school and blood, sweat, and tears in service to my nation, that's an issue that's near and dear to my heart.
	I'm confident the court will reach the right decision.
	Whoa!
	I didn't know it was 95% of borrowers.
	bolstered during three hours of arguments, as conservative justices seemed skeptical that President Biden could single-handedly forgive student debt for 95% of borrowers.
	I think most casual observers would say...
	Whoa, I didn't know it was 95% of borrowers.
	It seemed like it was a lot less last time they were talking about this.
	95%.
	That's a lot.
	I think most casual observers would say if you're going to give up that much amount of money, if you're going to affect the obligations of that many Americans on a subject that's of great controversy, they would think that's something for Congress to act on.
	But liberal justices said the law gave the administration power to act during national emergencies like COVID.
	There's 50 million students who will benefit from this.
	I have no idea.
	will struggle.
	But the Republican leaders who are fighting to stop the Biden plan say all that debt cancellation will cost their states money.
	A decision in this case is expected by the end of June.
	How will it cost the states money?
	I have no idea.
	A couple of things.
	The guy, a number of observers in the market have said that this is like, you know, rewarding bad behavior because it was stupid to take out some of these loans and people were taking them out left and right and encouraged to do so.
	They didn't have to pay for these loans during COVID so that excuse is over and supposedly we have the lowest unemployment ever so people can get jobs and making $125,000 a year should give you enough leeway in most situations to start paying off the loan at whatever rate that you can pay it off at.
	The other thing is that Amy Coney Barrett, whatever her name is, she's turning out to be a bad actor.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Just a number of cases that I've gone through and she's always showing up as kind of on the wrong side of the argument.
	And I'm thinking she's gonna turn out to be a bad justice.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Or maybe she's just really fair and you're biased.
	No, no, she's not.
	She's not being fair.
	Okay.
	I'm not biased.
	You know that.
	That's right.
	Straight and narrow.
	So talking about court cases... Wait, wait.
	I want to play Randy Weingarten's outrage clip.
	Who's Randy Weingarten?
	Oh, only the boss of the Teachers Union.
	Only one of the biggest donators to the Democratic Party.
	Democrat Party.
	She's outraged about what?
	About this, about the student loans.
	Listen to her logic.
	And frankly, and this is what really pisses me off, during the pandemic, we understood that small businesses were hurting.
	And we helped them!
	And it didn't go to the Supreme Court to challenge it!
	Their businesses were hurting!
	And we helped them!
	And it didn't go to the Supreme Court to challenge it!
	All of a sudden, when it's about our students, they challenge it!
	The corporations challenge it!
	The student loan lenders challenge it!
	That is not right!
	That is not fair!
	And that is what we are fighting as well, when we say, Hassle Student Debt!
	She's pretty worked up over this.
	The other aspect of this that people don't want to face, and it would be the benefit for the teachers unions, but even though they don't really have much impact in the university system, this will just encourage tuition hikes.
	Yes, exactly!
	That's what it always does, so maybe it's all just a gimme for Randy.
	I mean, that would make some sense, yeah.
	But it's going to be, they say, conservative estimates, half a trillion dollars, it'll probably be more.
	No, it's going to be over a trillion.
	That's what I think.
	Maybe they just need to do that.
	I think it's going to get killed, though, because John Roberts, of all the people in the court, are really irked about this idea that Biden can do this.
	And why does the court even have to decide on this?
	It got bumped up from some lower courts because there were some suits and it just ended up in the Supreme Court on their desk and now they have to decide it.
	I think they, I don't even know if they finalized deciding on even talking about it because Comey Barrett doesn't want to take the case.
	Yeah, I can understand.
	Hot potato.
	Well, what difference does it make to them?
	So I was watching the podcast Viva Fry, the Canadian guy.
	Yeah, I didn't like it at all.
	I know exactly which one you watched.
	The one about Scott, um... What?
	No.
	Was it about Scott Adam?
	No, it was about James O'Keefe.
	Right?
	Project Veritas?
	Well, I don't have any clips on whatever that what you're talking about.
	Oh, okay.
	So you didn't really watch the whole thing?
	Someone gave you a clip of the end?
	No, no, I've got clips here.
	I watched the whole thing.
	I may have skipped past that some of the stuff that was boring.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's very possible.
	It was a whole podcast and they had a whole piece about Project Veritas in there.
	Were they literally saying that this was a boardroom coup and that this is to cover up the drug gangs?
	They bought into the bullshit.
	Big time.
	Yeah, so I just skipped it, it didn't bother me.
	Okay.
	And I like this guy, Robert Barnes, but I start, this is what I went to the clip for, for this.
	This is the Viva $33 No Agenda Plug.
	I don't even know what, it's a $33 Rumble Rant.
	1-1-7-5-1-3.
	If you haven't already been referred the last two or three shows of the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe, have had small reports about Veritas from a high level at Veritas to the show.
	I don't know what ITM means.
	Viva Frye!
	Every single time someone brings up Noah Jenna to him, he forgets about it.
	He doesn't remember.
	Remember the truckers thing?
	Someone had an NA t-shirt on?
	Anyway.
	And by the way, it was Barnes is the one who was unhinged about the whole affair.
	Not Viva Frye, it was Barnes.
	He's the one that's all like, you know, this is, this is the, they're going to be lawsuits and the board is going to be taken down and like, okay.
	Oh yeah, I could see him going there.
	I just pretty much skipped over that whole thing because I knew they didn't know what they were talking about.
	No.
	But he has some good stuff at the end that I thought was good when they do the little rundowns.
	Okay.
	I have a few of them here.
	All right.
	And one of them includes a story that I have and I think people should, I'd like to know if anyone else knows anything about this.
	This is Robert Barnes on insurance.
	We have insurance companies are requiring when you re-up your insurance, probably most people don't know, insurance companies are secretly sharing your medical information with all the other insurance companies to collude in, in my view, price fix in violation of your privacy rights.
	What happened here was they misinterpreted the person's request.
	As having certain health problems he did not have, lied to other insurers, including that data in there, so he couldn't get life insurance from anybody, and only found out later and had to sue, but in the process outed how private insurance companies are collusively, illicitly sharing your private medical information to make sure that you can't get qualified insurance.
	Well, that would make sense.
	It makes sense to me, and especially after the experience I had personally.
	Do tell.
	So I got into a car wreck years ago in a rental.
	I was in Phoenix.
	This is before I even knew you, clearly.
	Maybe.
	And I don't really discuss this sort of thing.
	Rental cars to me are cars you can have fun with.
	So I got into a wreck and I got a ticket in Phoenix and I couldn't, you know, they said you can do You can get this wiped off of your insurance record by taking a school in driver's ed or whatever they want to call it, traffic school.
	You have to take this course.
	And so I shopped around.
	I said, I'll do that because I don't need this aggravation.
	So I signed up for the cheapest course that goes in Chinatown, Oakland.
	So I go to this class, it's a live class, and this guy, this Chinese guy, he never really tells you anything about driving or better driving or anything.
	He just tells you all the dirty tricks that the insurance companies pull to jack up your prices.
	And he talks about, you don't want to do this, you don't want to do that.
	He's very educational.
	And then he gets to the one thing that really got my attention, which was, The insurance companies, the automobile insurance companies have a single database that they all reference.
	And if you start buying from one insurance company and start hopping from one to the other to the other to get better prices... They kick you out.
	They'll kick you out and jack your price up.
	You'll never get insurance.
	And I say, what?
	And he went on about this in some detail.
	I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about how this works in the media because they're always advertising for customers.
	And I suppose you can get a lot of new customers, but the insurance company ads for like State Farm and Mutual.
	Progressive.
	Progressive.
	They're all joke commercials.
	They're not even serious.
	And it's as though they're just buying airtime the way the pharmaceutical companies do so they don't get busted for anything.
	And so I'm thinking about this, and so then they would go to a lunch break, and I come back, and this is really a shocker, I spent half the day on this course.
	I come back, the guy's not coming back, and I'm given a chit to know the guy has been arrested.
	That day?
	He was arrested right there during lunch.
	And somebody who stayed in the room, he told me, oh yeah, they came in, a bunch of guys in plain clothes came in, cuffed him and walked him out.
	Okay.
	I'm saying what?
	And so they gave me a chit to go to get a refund so I don't didn't pay for the course and I can go someplace else and I always thought that was peculiar and I've always wanted to go back and find that guy because I know where he was you know where he worked out of it I never could track him down.
	Because that, but that's what this reminded me of.
	A collusion between these insurance companies and they're working and again the media doesn't investigate anything and it's just the scams around us are outrageous.
	And excellent use of the word chit.
	I don't think anyone knows what that is anymore.
	Yeah.
	Shit.
	C-H-I-T.
	I love a good shit.
	I did want to say about just going back previously to the Viva Fry 33 mention, I appreciate that a producer went through that trouble to do that.
	What was kind of disappointing though is I get a lot of messages Hey, Barnes Law, Viva Frye, they mentioned no agenda, they mentioned no agenda.
	I'm like, oh, that's cool.
	I wonder how, you know, was it in response to the whole Project Veritas?
	And then you get to it, it's like, oh, we don't know what that means.
	It's a paid for mention.
	It's like an ad.
	It was a little bit, even though the intention, of course, is great.
	I appreciate it.
	It was disappointing.
	It was a letdown.
	They don't even know who we are.
	They don't.
	This is true.
	I was like, oh, okay.
	I thought like, you know, they said, you know, hey, no agenda had the executive director on.
	Here's what he said.
	No, no.
	Instead it's like, uh, I don't know what ITM means.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Not that I don't appreciate the ad.
	Not that I don't appreciate the ad that someone put in there, but it was just, you know, when people say that you were mentioned, you were mentioned so often, it's like one of these, like I wasn't really mentioned.
	No.
	Just, you know, someone else mentioned it?
	I say no.
	No, exactly.
	All right, what else from this fabulous podcast you don't even know us are you going to talk about?
	What do we have?
	There's a couple of things, but I can push them.
	One of them I'll skip, but I want to... This is kind of interesting.
	The White Castle clip I found amusing.
	A big biometric case out of Illinois.
	Illinois has its own biometric privacy laws that says if they take your biometric data, your bio-identification data, you know, facial identification, fingerprints, etc., that they can only do it with your consent and they can only share it with your consent.
	Well, White Castle was taking employees' fingerprints without their consent, requiring it in order to get their paychecks, and then sharing it with third parties without their consent.
	This is White Castle, the burger place.
	Yeah.
	Oh my God.
	Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.
	I'll never want, I'm boycotting, I'm going to burn my DVD.
	It's not as good as Crystal.
	Crystal's from Chattanooga, great little Crystal Burgers.
	Samuel L. Jackson made his first thing, good midnight run.
	I'm not saying they're healthy, they're not.
	Why do you fingerprint your employees?
	I don't know.
	I'm healthy, but they're burgers.
	But Illinois Supreme Court established that each time they do it is its own violation.
	So White Castle is going to be writing a big check pretty soon.
	Okay.
	Why do you fingerprint your employees?
	I don't know.
	Why did we have to listen to Barnes and Fry talk about it was what I want to know.
	Well, it was a minute and one second out of your life that you'll never get back.
	I know.
	I know, especially since they don't even know who we are.
	Why do we spend any more time on them?
	They don't love us.
	So here's a clip I got out of the blue.
	What is curry?
	Okay, let's see what this is.
	What is curry?
	Is this like a chat GPT question or what is this?
	What is curry?
	What is it?
	Okay.
	All right.
	And I got the answer.
	Curry entity.
	Curry entity.
	Curry is an entity.
	Where's it?
	Hold on a second.
	Curry is an entity.
	It says curry is tementity.
	What is it?
	Is an entity.
	Curry is an entity.
	Who was speaking?
	The guy, an expert on curry.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	And then, curry what Tina says.
	Curry is a dish.
	Oh man.
	Am I supposed to be hearing douche instead of dish?
	Is that the idea?
	You've sunk into a new low, really.
	I can't believe... Let me help you get into some good clips, because I saw that you have them.
	So, let's start with one of my favorite topics, which is...
	Of course, because we know they're real directed energy weapons!
	We've got new findings to report on the mysterious ailment called Havana Syndrome affecting U.S.
	officials stationed abroad.
	Now, it's the result of a multi-year investigation conducted by five separate agencies.
	Senior investigative correspondent, that's Catherine Herridge, has been following the story.
	Catherine, what'd they find?
	Good morning, Gail.
	The agency's found that it's very unlikely the mysterious neurological symptoms known as Havana Syndrome are the result of actions by a foreign adversary.
	In a comprehensive review, investigators examined more than 1,500 reported cases.
	Symptoms range from dizziness, headaches, and memory loss, to cognitive impairments so severe that some victims say they can no longer work.
	The new intelligence report concluded it's very unlikely a foreign adversary played a role, and there is no credible evidence that a foreign adversary has a weapon.
	The intelligence agencies also assess that symptoms were probably the result of factors that did not involve a foreign adversary, such as pre-existing conditions, conventional illnesses, and environmental factors.
	The Defense Department is running its own investigation and told VictimScale that work continues.
	You notice any theme in that little clip?
	Go ahead.
	Foreign.
	This is exactly what I thought.
	It's like, well, it's not from foreigners, it's not the Russians, not the Chinese, but we might have done it to you.
	That was my takeaway.
	That's my takeaway.
	What are your clips?
	Let's listen to them.
	Number two.
	What, Havana Syndrome 2?
	Yeah.
	How are they responding?
	Well, they're very disappointed, as you may expect.
	Oh, wait, wait.
	You played that, the Harris clip, you got that from CBS.
	Yeah, that was my own clip.
	These are the NPR clips, so let's go with Advantage Syndrome 1.
	The U.S.
	intelligence community has concluded that a foreign country was not responsible for the so-called Havana Syndrome cases involving U.S.
	officials working overseas.
	This finding comes as a disappointment to U.S.
	diplomats and intelligence officials who believe they suffered attacks and are still dealing with serious ailments.
	And peer national security correspondent Greg Myrie has been following this closely.
	He's here now.
	Hey, Greg.
	Hi, Mary Louise.
	Hi, Mary Louise.
	So, Havana Syndrome, I named that because cases were first reported in Cuba back in 2016.
	Does the intelligence community now believe they know what happened?
	Well, not exactly.
	I think it would be more precise to say the intelligence community is pretty sure of what didn't happen in Cuba and several other countries.
	There it is.
	This report is the work of seven different U.S. intelligence agencies, and they're pretty sure that no foreign adversary like Cuba, Russia, China is responsible.
	Five of these seven agencies said it was highly unlikely that a foreign country was to blame.
	One said it was unlikely, and one didn't take a position.
	Now, the report goes on to say that there's no credible evidence that a foreign adversary even has a weapon that could have inflicted this kind of harm.
	This goes against what many people suspected, including a lot of intelligence officers and diplomats I have interviewed who suffered from something and suffer ailments now.
	How are they responding?
	Here's what I don't understand.
	They bought these people off.
	They were supposed to shut up.
	We had the little discussed, Helping American Victims Afflicted by Neurological Attacks, the Havana Act.
	So creative!
	Helping American Victims Afflicted by Neurological Attacks was signed in October 2021.
	2021.
	That gave employees over $180,000 each.
	So they were bought off.
	They need to shut up.
	I I don't understand why this is not solved yet.
	Maybe not everyone took the deal, or... No, I don't think, I thought, her quoting this guy was from when these reports first came out.
	I think they have shut up.
	Hmm, interesting.
	But what they're doing now is they're still trying to explain it or something and they come up with this bullcrap and this next clip which makes it even... they dig a deeper hole.
	How are they responding?
	Well, they're very disappointed as you may expect.
	They remain convinced they suffered an attack.
	They've speculated it was possibly some kind of...
	energy weapon maybe a microwave device but they acknowledge they don't have proof many recall these it's directed energy weapon you do let's get it right that moment when they suffered a sharp piercing pain in their head which caused them to be dizzy or nauseous or suffer migraine headaches um They say they've never had these problems before and now they've had them for years.
	I've been in contact with two of them who didn't want to speak on the record, but I spoke with attorney Mark Zaid.
	He's representing more than two dozen clients and says he has had access to some of the classified information.
	I can at least say the U.S.
	government has a lot more information than what it is publicly revealing today.
	And that is where a lot of the unanswered questions arise from.
	So I'll note that two intelligence officials briefed a small number of journalists on this report, but they didn't share the contents of the actual report itself because that's still classified.
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Thought here.
	I mean, we may be witnessing an FBI-CIA knockout brawl here.
	You know, we have FBI, the one saying, well, you know, it's pretty obvious COVID came from a lab.
	We hear CIA immediately countering that.
	Maybe because the CIA is the one who used directed energy weapons on our own State Department personnel, maybe the FBI is the one that's getting this back into the news.
	It could be the age-old war.
	Well, this age-old war is interesting to me because of this one TV show that came out a couple of years ago.
	Which one?
	And Dick Wolf came over to, I guess it was CBS, and he started these, or that, or NBC.
	He started this new series, instead of Law and Order, this and that, it's FBI.
	So he started one with the FBI, it's just FBI.
	Right, right, I remember that.
	Then it became FBI International.
	Which was the second show, and then they did a third show, which was FBI, most wanted.
	FBI International, isn't that an oxymoron?
	FBI International is about the FBI, a team of FBI people that are stationed overseas, and they do investigations overseas, like the CIA, not even like the CIA, they're just spooks!
	When did FBI International, and I think this was to soften up the public to come up with the show, FBI International.
	Hmm.
	FBI International is a mysterious show.
	Why does it exist?
	And when did the FBI become an international operation?
	And then you start saying the FBI was brought in.
	I think the FBI was brought in for the Syrian gas canister attack or whatever it was, if you remember.
	The FBI is now, you know, they're doing the job of the CIA.
	So FBI International was indeed on CBS.
	Okay, it was CBS.
	It's still on.
	Interesting, because... It hasn't been taken off.
	That's the CIA broadcast network.
	I find this very distressing now.
	Well, it's all pretty distressing.
	Okay, so the BBC has a pretty good rundown before we get to... Well, let's get that third clip out of the way.
	Okay.
	And so, in a way, it remains as much of a mystery as it ever was.
	I mean, if it wasn't a foreign government, if no electronic weapon was used, then what caused these injuries?
	Well, the intelligence officials said the individual cases vary, but collectively they were probably pre-existing medical conditions, conventional illnesses, or environmental factors.
	The intelligence officials say they didn't find what they were looking for, that a foreign adversary was behind this, but they did learn a lot of things they weren't looking for.
	For example, a faulty air conditioning system or a heating system can cause changes to room pressure.
	Still so many questions and not a lot of answers.
	NPR's Greg Myrie, thank you.
	And so as they were investigating, they came across things like weapons dealers and drugs dealers near the scene.
	But again, nothing that linked anybody to the ailments that these U.S. officials suffered.
	Still so many questions and not a lot of answers.
	NPR's Greg Myrie, thank you.
	Thank you, NPR, for delivering nothing.
	OK, the BBC has a pretty good rundown.
	I guess they saw the documents about this.
	And there's some telling information in this report from them.
	The victims have included intelligence officers.
	We haven't heard that, have we?
	Military and State Department staff and high-level aides to government figures such as Vice President Kamala Harris.
	Of the seven participating agencies, of which no report mentions which ones they are, five, and there's 17 I think, five agreed that, quote, available intelligence consistently points against the involvement of U.S.
	adversaries in causing reported incidents and that it is, quote, very unlikely.
	So again, it wasn't anyone foreign.
	Levels of confidence between participating agencies, however, varied.
	The report noted that two agencies have moderate to high confidence in the assessment, while three have moderate confidence.
	Quote, one agency judges it is only unlikely a foreign adversary played a role and has only low confidence in this judgment.
	I'm telling you, they're zapping each other.
	Well, let's see, let's look at it from that perspective.
	You're somebody in the agency, you're somebody, you're an assistant to somebody else, and you're getting out of line.
	Yeah, zap that bitch!
	And you see what, and then you go to somebody else, you see what happened to so-and-so?
	Right.
	They're just sleeping in their room at the hotel, just there by themselves.
	Wow.
	An assessment like this is an assessment based on the best information available to us at any time.
	This is Ned Price.
	Any new information will be factored into future assessments about the disease.
	Now it's a disease all of a sudden.
	But when you have, when you pass a bill called the Helping American Victims Afflicted by Neurological Attacks, the Havana Act, you know, when you name it that, you've pretty much concluded that it was a neurological attack.
	So I really think this is the, you know, we have 17, 16 or 17 intelligence agencies in the intelligence community and they're duking it out.
	The CIA is downplaying the, you know, is downplaying China problems, you know, in certain regards.
	FBI is hyping him up.
	We have the Savannah Syndrome.
	We're not being told which agencies think it wasn't such a big deal.
	We're being told by others clearly, well, it was probably from our own people doing that.
	And then when you hear that it was intelligence agents and high-ranking officials, including the Vice President, there may be something bigger going on behind the scenes here.
	And it's big enough for people off the record to be telling NPR, oh, listen, you gotta do the story on this, and they get nothing out of it.
	So why is it even a story?
	It must be because they're trying to duke this out.
	I'd leave it at that for now.
	I mean, that really seems like that's what's happening.
	Well, there's no other explanation.
	That makes sense.
	Wow.
	And we know these agencies are always kind of going after each other a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Not just for the money, but for the, you know, the influence.
	Of course.
	Maybe the CIA is pissed off.
	Hey, why does FBI get an international TV series from Dick Wolf?
	Screw that!
	We want a show!
	Actually, now that you brought us on CBS, that makes you wonder.
	Yeah!
	And CBS did it?
	Yeah, why would CBS put that on the air?
	Maybe that's what really irked him.
	It's irksome enough.
	Hey, you guys are working for us!
	What are you doing here?
	Dick Wolf makes money.
	Oh yeah, he knows how to do it.
	Hey, quick some feedback on pod fasting.
	This is my plea to our listeners to not listen to podcasts at anything above the 1.0 speed.
	It's not about us, by the way.
	It's about your family and the people around you who you love.
	Love them by retreating to normal speeds.
	A good note came in.
	A couple of good notes.
	What did you get from Andrus?
	I don't know.
	I don't have it in front of me.
	Andra says, hi gents.
	After listening to the latest episode, hearing about variable speed causing people to be short with wife and kids as well as anxiety, I have changed back to 1.0 times on all.
	Just after one day, I can feel the difference.
	It's interesting.
	You bullied me into it and I'm grateful!
	We did!
	And then I got an explanation from Dean because I said, you know, Why do you?
	Because most people say, hey, you know what?
	You're right.
	I'm back to regular 1.0 speed on no agenda.
	But I still listen at high speed to other podcasts.
	And I say, why?
	Why?
	Why would you?
	Is it just because I asked?
	Or what is the reason that you have these other podcasts at high speed?
	And the answer is very consistent.
	When it's done poorly, no, when it's done properly, you know, a good podcast, I listen at normal speed.
	But some people on these podcasts speak so slowly, I'm falling asleep in between every other word, they constantly repeat themselves, they ramble on about crap completely unrelated to the topic, or they're selling some stuff, and, you know, it's like they just don't get to the point.
	And my question is always the same.
	Why are you listening to it?
	Why?
	And it's not, you know, news or deconstruction.
	It's, you know, it's a... This guy's gabbing.
	It's just people gabbing, yeah.
	Yeah, dipshits gabbing.
	It doesn't sound healthy.
	You know, people love podcasts.
	They really do.
	But I mean, there there are people who wake up and boom, the earbuds are in.
	It's on high speed so they can get all kinds of information.
	And meanwhile, they're, you know, they're they're scrolling on TikTok.
	You've got Telegram stuff to take a look at.
	Oh, let's follow.
	We've got to follow all that.
	Telegram is so bad.
	There's conspiracies and conspiracy theories in there that I won't even touch.
	Like, are you crazy?
	I mean, anyway, I can't affect that, but I can try and save your sanity, particularly with the people around you, many who you love.
	You might not love your kids, but I realize there's enough evidence that you get fed up and antsy and you can't wait for someone in real life to get to the point because you're used to everything being sped up so much.
	It should be illegal, really.
	It should be illegal.
	Yeah.
	So I'm listening to CNBC.
	Oh, okay.
	It's kind of my beat, but yeah, what you got?
	It is your beat.
	And they're out of the blue.
	They give this news story.
	It's a 19 second clip.
	Native ad.
	It's a native ad on CNBC for Shake Shack.
	And Shake Shack is set to introduce a new menu item later this week.
	The fast food chain plans to unveil a limited edition fine dining inspired white truffle menu featuring a burger and fries with a white truffle sauce.
	The CEO said he hopes to have the menu in place for two to three months depending on demand.
	What kind of news?
	This isn't news!
	Well, it's financial news.
	Somebody changes their menu is not news.
	For the financial channel, it's like, alright, we're so desperate to get people to eat more of our crap, what can we do?
	I don't know, put some white crap on it.
	Call it truffle.
	Let's be honest, what would a white truffle, actual shavings of a truffle cost on a burger?
	Well, if there were actual shavings of an actual white truffle, it'd be at least a dollar a shave.
	Exactly.
	So whatever they're pouring onto your burger, whatever white sauce, I would be wary of it.
	Artificial.
	Of course it's going to be artificial.
	Probably like most of the ingredients that are in the burger.
	No.
	Well, on the topic of artificial... Yes, is it time to talk about Scott Adams?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I don't have any Scott Adams clips.
	Oh, I do.
	But I do have information, man.
	But I wanted to play this clip.
	This is Kamala.
	Tell me what she says here and then check it out.
	So, I want to just now do a public service announcement and I need all the leaders here to help me.
	To check if you qualify for the ACP, look at your neighbor.
	To check if you qualify, go to getinternet.gov.
	To check if you qualify, go to internet.gov.
	Okay, so she... I don't know what the ACP is?
	But I can type in checkinternet.gov, which she then said something, okay.
	She said just internet.gov.
	Yeah.
	There's no such site.
	She doesn't know what she's talking about.
	She's a lunatic.
	Checkinternet.gov is not a site.
	Internet.gov is not a site.
	What is the ACP?
	I think it's one of those systems where you get money back for something to do with COVID, perhaps.
	Well, instead of just sounding like every other podcast, I've consulted the Book of Knowledge.
	ACP is Access to High-Speed Internet.
	This is the Affordable Connectivity Program.
	Oh, good.
	Obviously, you'd go to internet.gov.
	That's right, which provides $65 billion, billion dollars to provide internet for all.
	You've got to wonder if Elon Musk is getting a piece of that.
	Well, if it's government money, the answer's always yes.
	said it both she said it wrong in two cases let's rewind it if you qualify go to get internet.gov that's the one it is get internet.gov yes that is a real site to check if you qualify go to internet.gov That is not a real site.
	Get internet.gov.
	Claim your Affordable Connectivity Program benefit.
	Learn how President Biden and Vice President Harris are reducing the cost of high-speed internet, and find out if you qualify to sign up.
	Okay, how can you qualify?
	Household income, Internet Service Provider's Low Income Plan, or Government Assistance Program.
	Oh, nice.
	So I wonder who this goes to, T-Mobile, you know, Elon.
	T-Mobile, AT&T, Comcast.
	It's going to be someone like that.
	Comcast for sure.
	Comcast, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All right, so Scott Adams, he's really trying to prove a point.
	And from what I understand, well, first of all, we know that he's always manipulating people.
	He's always doing, you know, I'm sorry, what's his term?
	Not influencing.
	Influencing.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	It's another term.
	Yeah, he says influencing a lot.
	Persuasion.
	Because, you know, he's a hypnotist, a trained hypnotist.
	So he believes, I think he believes he could persuade people to see that the media is racist And that they're just racist against everybody, and now they're very racist against white people.
	Fine people.
	Very fine people.
	And to do this, he set up a gambit, and the gambit was, okay, I'm gonna make sure that I say something really inflammatory, but without the context of what I was saying, it'll be just like the very fine people hoax.
	And so what is interesting is that even though he, and he went on HOTEP and he says look I'm really a lefty, I believe in Black Lives Matter until I found out it was a grift, it was a scam and you know they really didn't want any help from me.
	He's done all kinds of things throughout his, and privately apparently.
	So he feels that he is a lefty, which may also be some bull crap thing he's made up, and he was prognosticating, I'm gonna get cancelled, because he wanted to get cancelled to prove the point, and I guess somehow, you know, retire Dilbert, or move that into some incredibly profitable venture with locals.
	Fine.
	So, I don't think this is unpacking the way he wanted it to.
	And the reason why I think that is because I went to my favorite hate listen, you know, the woman who you trained yourself, but go ahead, Kara Swisher, and Scott Galloway, to hear what their take was on Scott Adams.
	These are, of course, highly skilled journalists.
	Kara Swisher feels she is very smart, that she knows everything about everybody, and that she is an actual journalist.
	And she should mention, trained by John C. Dvorak.
	in some of her podcasting mannerisms, and this must be very disappointing to Scott to hear how they hate him.
	I mean, hate him.
	Listen to this.
	Look, I'm of two minds on this, and the definition of intelligence, according to F. Scott Fitzgerald, is to have two kind of contrary thoughts in your mind at the same time.
	Just so we know, Scott Galloway is brilliant, just so you know.
	I love this setup!
	Just so you know, I'm of two minds of this, and that's the definition of intelligence, so I'm really intelligent, and here's my opinion.
	Look, I'm of two minds of this, and the definition of intelligence, according to F. Scott Fitzgerald, is to have two kind of contrary thoughts in your mind at the same time, and I'm sort of...
	Look, I ultimately come down on the place that a newspaper gets to make editorial decisions.
	That's correct.
	We live in an age where your off-camera behavior can impact people's perception of your on-camera work.
	So they don't even really realize that this was on camera or something?
	I don't know, they're talking about Dilbert being canceled from all these newspapers, and so they're trying to kind of rationalize that.
	But don't worry, it'll get pretty dark pretty soon.
	And he is Always finding reasons for why, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement was wrong.
	And when he comes out and makes a blanket statement like black people are a hate group.
	He said white people shouldn't be around them and we should avoid each other.
	Have you lost it, brother?
	I know, he's done that a lot.
	He goes off the deep.
	He's done that to me.
	Exact same thing.
	Oh, let's personalize it.
	He's done that to me.
	I mean, already.
	How did he do it to her?
	She has no example of that.
	If you don't bow to Kara Swisher, you're an asshole.
	Believe me, this is how she thinks of people.
	And these are, of course, the liberal intellectual elites.
	The lies.
	Very smart.
	But man, it's not that good, Scott.
	The other Scott, not you.
	You know what?
	It's good, but you're not fucking that good.
	And by the way, you're a racist.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't use that term lightly, but honestly.
	I don't use that term lightly.
	You go out of your way.
	No, he actually, you know what you are?
	You're an asshole.
	There we go.
	That's what you, you know, you, he does.
	He goes out of his way to tweak people to get a, to promote reaction, to make people angry.
	This guy goes out of his way to be an asshole.
	And if they, if newspapers want to dump them for saying stupid things, more of it, as far as I'm concerned, they can put whoever they want in their pages.
	But in this instance, he's a very wealthy man.
	He's going to be just fine.
	And he has been like poking the bear here for a long, long time.
	He wants to and he doesn't want to have solutions.
	He doesn't want to talk thoughtfully about it.
	He wants to make kind of incendiary comments to inflame the dialogue and make it less productive.
	He's a bomb thrower of no use to us.
	Supporting Kanye.
	He is, by the way, he's a huge Elon fan.
	I know, well, I know.
	Elon defended him, you saw.
	He's one of those people that will throw himself in front of anybody who says anything about Elon.
	I know, it's kind of sick.
	Your brain's been tickled, Scott Adams, I'll tell you.
	You've got a good brain, too bad.
	Too bad!
	The natural arc of his career, and I don't, he's a brilliant, he's a brilliant animator, he's made a shit ton of money, he's had a lot of influence, he's said consistently things that are not productive, and even borderline hateful, and I don't like to use that word a lot, because, and it's like, if you just take all of these frames of a film, I think you gotta take the full 35 frames of a person's life.
	This is the part I love.
	Yeah, you gotta take the full 35 frames of a film.
	Memo it's 24 frames.
	It's 35 millimeter film, but it's 24 frames not 35 frames I don't like to use that word a lot because and it's like if you just take all of these frames of a film I think you got to take the full 35 frames of a person's life And if if on the whole they've tried to advance the rights of people and they're generally consistent and thoughtful and they fuck up, okay Yeah, you cut him some slack.
	And one of the things I don't like sometimes is people say, that's it, one strike you're out.
	That's not the case here.
	I mean, that must be heartbreaking to Scott Adams to hear this, if he's truly a lefty.
	And there's hatred now.
	I can tell you a couple of things.
	One, he doesn't vote.
	Um, he's kind of apolitical.
	And, uh, so yeah, he probably leans, he would lean a little bit left, maybe.
	I'm just telling you what he said.
	I went back and forth.
	He said this.
	He said it loud and clear on HOTEP.
	I'm a lefty.
	That's what he said.
	His words.
	Yeah.
	Well, it doesn't mean he means it.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, there you go.
	He said, I contacted him, he says not to worry about what's going on, he's playing a long game.
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	You think he can pull it off?
	No.
	Me neither.
	Did you say, hey, you can't pull it off?
	No, I didn't say that.
	He's playing the long game.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if he can pull it off or not, really.
	But it just seems like the situation is such that it's going to be tough.
	And I noticed that what was kind of annoying to me was the newspapers that cut off the Dilbert cartoon.
	And so I'm reading this one article and they talk about the Chronicle, the guy over here in San Francisco, the editor of the Chronicle, which is a Hearst paper, which has been dropping him left and right.
	But the Hearst Corporation seems to be getting very woke.
	And they said, oh, we canceled his his strip.
	And by the way, he's a cartoonist, not an animator, like Galloway said.
	Yeah.
	To mention that he's not animator.
	He says, you know, we cut him off because he was going off the deep end with right wing conspiracy stuff at all.
	And and I think the example was the Which are funny.
	His ESG cartoons.
	Scott did an ESG cartoon where they hire a black guy.
	And the black guy identifies as white.
	So that screws their ESG up.
	And so they get in another meeting in another cartoon.
	He tries to convince the black guy, well, at least can you identify as gay?
	To get our ESG score up.
	So that kind of thing would annoy some editors of some organizations, and I think the Chronicle would be one of them.
	Well, I wonder how long it will last until YouTube blows him off.
	Once he's off YouTube, it's gonna be hard.
	This is what I think he's underestimating.
	Yes, he actually doesn't believe, he do believe, I do believe, that he thinks he can survive at that level on Rumble and Locals.
	Well, he can survive doing nothing for the rest of his life.
	I mean, I think he probably has hundreds of millions of dollars.
	But I just thought it was, like, disgraceful that his agent quit him.
	What?
	An agent?
	These are people with no hearts or souls?
	And all of a sudden they...
	No, no.
	The agents don't want to lose the other clients.
	That's why they have to let him go.
	Because clients will be like, you represent Scott Adams?
	You're fired!
	No, agents are all about themselves.
	So, that doesn't... Well, anyway.
	I wish him well on the long game.
	I'll give Kara Swisher this.
	All he does is manipulate people.
	It's always a game to him.
	So, good luck.
	From Z100.
	Well, we'll get to watch it.
	No, we won't.
	That's the problem.
	We won't get to watch it.
	Unless you got, well, we got Rumble.
	You only get Rumble.
	Rumble.
	All right, COVID, just a few things to keep everybody in line with what's going on.
	There was some testimony in Congress this past week.
	The head of the CDC, Walensky, she testified about the reason that COVID vaccines were put on the children's schedule.
	Now, according to the man who literally wrote the book, Robert Kennedy Jr.
	The reason for this is once you get it on the schedule, then, you know, your immunity is good forever.
	Your immunity from being sued.
	You don't have to have anything under emergency laws.
	You're in the program.
	You'll always get money.
	It's a long-term thing.
	It's what you want.
	It's what you want.
	And Walensky gives a very different explanation.
	So, I mean, how do you view the cost-benefit of scheduling brand new bivalent booster shots for this age group?
	Considering the children are at very low risk from COVID-19, 75% of children have already caught the virus, and the vaccine is known to do pretty little to prevent transmission in this age group.
	I'm really grateful that you asked that question so I can correct the record here so that everybody understands.
	First of all, we've had 2,000 pediatric deaths from COVID-19.
	It's the number one respiratory and infectious killer that was just published last week in JAMA.
	So, less deadly to an 80-year-old, but still deadly for a pediatric infection.
	The important thing I think that we need to recognize is the reason that ACIP recommended and CDC put forward getting the COVID-19 vaccine on the pediatric schedule, it was only because it was the only way it could be covered in our Vaccines for Children's program.
	It was the only way that our uninsured children would be able to have access to the vaccines.
	That was the reason to put it on the schedule.
	It can't be eligible for a Vaccines for Children's program to be available to the uninsured unless it is on that schedule.
	That was the reason to put it there.
	Thank you for allowing me to correct that.
	Wow.
	What a bunch of crap that is.
	Boy, she really rattled that off nicely.
	Thank you for letting me correct the record.
	Yeah.
	And he goes, thank you.
	Okay.
	Double vax, double boosted.
	Savannah Guthrie got COVID during the show.
	She had to go home.
	Third time.
	Third COVID infection.
	Should you have any kind of questions about the COVID vaccine creating heart issues?
	You are really, really stupid if you think that has anything to do with the vaccine.
	Welcome back everyone.
	Dr. Jin joins us now with a very interesting topic that affects a lot of people.
	I found this interesting.
	One in five American adults actually uses cannabis.
	And new data shows that daily cannabis use is actually an increased risk of cardiovascular disease.
	It's coronary artery disease, so clogging of the arteries.
	And this is an abstract, so very preliminary data that is presented at the annual meeting for the American College of Cardiology.
	It represents one of the largest and longest term studies to date.
	That's one of the reasons why it's important.
	But found that people who admitted to using daily cannabis And it didn't distinguish, by the way, whether it was inhaled, smoked, or ingested.
	Even if it's gummies!
	Not just smoking, if it's gummies!
	But increased their risk of coronary artery disease by 34%. 34%!
	And even if they took into account other factors like age and race.
	So there's still a lot of questions here, you know, in terms of time interval.
	They seem to see an increased risk with increase in use because they looked at like never users, once in a while, weekly, daily.
	Daily had the most risk.
	But I think what's really important here is that, you know, whether it's recreational or medicinal, this is here to stay.
	It's much more common.
	It's not an all-or-none thing.
	It's completely safe versus completely dangerous.
	We just need more data.
	And this study goes a long way for that.
	Oh, we just need more data.
	Oh sure, it's all we need.
	Just more data and we'll figure it out.
	Even if it's an edible.
	Now, there may be some truth to the matter.
	That if you get really high off some edibles and you start eating Krispy Kreme doughnuts and yodels, yeah, okay.
	Now you're talking.
	But that's not in the study as far as I know.
	But here's a better one.
	CBS has the answer.
	In tonight's Health Watch, researchers from the Cleveland Clinic are sounding the alarm about a popular zero-calorie sugar substitute called erythritol.
	In a study of more than 4,000 people, including many who had cardiovascular issues, researchers found those who had the highest levels of this artificial sweetener in their blood had a heightened risk of heart attack, stroke, and death.
	Researchers caution, though, that more study on this sweetener is still needed.
	So, erythritrol.
	By the way, I hear this.
	This is a big, big topic all of a sudden.
	Even Darren O'Neill was talking about it.
	Is this a hit job on some new sweetener from the sugar industry or NutraSweet or one of these guys?
	What is erythritrol?
	It sounds like something you'd know about.
	It's a type of sugar that's not digestible.
	And it's already been a major product for Splenda, I think.
	I don't know why they'd be doing a hit job on it, to be honest about it, because there's nothing new coming down the pike.
	Then it's just to explain the obvious.
	You know, we gotta have reasons.
	Reasons for the, uh, for the cardiovascular issues.
	Maybe.
	It's your gummies.
	Whatever it is.
	In general...
	There's a lot going on in the pharmaceutical industry and the same Dr. Jen Ashton, who I just consider to be an extended mouthpiece and a promo person.
	This is from a couple weeks ago.
	I just dug it up.
	This is about microdosing and not anything produced by big pharma.
	Dr. Jin joins us now with the topic.
	I'm actually a little surprised we're talking about, even though it's such a huge trend right now.
	Yeah, because, you know, normally we don't talk about anything that's not Pfizer-related.
	We're talking about microdosing mushrooms.
	Moms across the country are using them to treat anxiety and depression.
	I want your medical opinion.
	And in some cases, some postpartum mood disorders.
	It was an article that got my attention recently published in the Washington Post about this trend, this fad.
	But we're talking about the use of psychedelics recreationally, but also therapeutically.
	We've talked here about it.
	It's really exploding in the field of psychiatry in controlled research settings.
	Really as a way to treat or manage PTSD, extreme anxiety or major depression.
	But now your point is that a lot of new moms are reaching for things like mushrooms or psilocybin in micro doses.
	But again what that micro dose is, is a big question mark.
	As a way to kind of manage mood disorders.
	So I think it's a very interesting phenomenon.
	There's a lot of interesting science behind it.
	But it is sweeping the country in terms of its recreational use.
	And it's very, very unregulated right now.
	Let's be clear, mushrooms are only legal in Oregon and Colorado.
	They are still illegal across the country.
	Yeah, they're still illegal and a lot of people in different age groups are really using these substances much more than they're using things like alcohol and cannabis so we will definitely stay on top of it but you know obviously new moms and postpartum mood disorders is a very serious issue but we need good data to go through management and treatment options.
	And whether it's how safe it is and what the dose should be.
	Risk versus benefit.
	That it always comes down to that.
	So I found this really interesting because I agree there is a trend sweeping the nation.
	Not a...
	I haven't heard much from new moms.
	I think that may be just the red herring to get the conversation started to bring everybody back to where we want them, which is on antidepressants.
	That's where we want you new moms.
	Postpartum depression, you want the antidepressant drug.
	And you want the one that, you know, picks you up from the anti-depression drug.
	And, of course, you want the stuff that'll unclog your bowels from the anti-depression drug.
	And you want some other stuff to make sure that you still have sex drive.
	But it is mainly affluent women with children, teenage children, children in school who are doing this.
	And there's, you can get very expensive tours to go to different, you know, like the Caribbean and you can do psilocybin or ayahuasca.
	This is a big one under supervision.
	$10,000 a trip.
	They stay in very high-end hotels, and it's a small group.
	It's under supervision.
	Something is going on with this.
	They're identifying it incorrectly about new moms, but this is a real thing, and I hear a lot about it.
	Well, this isn't, again, I'm getting more deja vu out of this.
	Because in 2017, this was actually a topic in the spinoff from The Good Wife Show, and it was on TV, and this is where I was getting, that's the sitcom that was shown on one of the spinoff channels, like CBS Plus, or NBC Plus, or one of those bullshit operations.
	And they were talking about it there, because the lead actress was micro-dosing, but it was, at the time, in 2017, it was LSD that they were micro-dosing on.
	So this is not a new story, really, they're just reintroducing it for some reason.
	Well, it's not, well, no one's doing LSD, it's DMed specifically Ayahuasca.
	And psilocybin.
	I remember in 2017 they were talking about microdosing LSD.
	Oh, I'm sure then, but I don't know, man.
	I think people are searching.
	They're searching for something.
	They're not getting what they want.
	Just because they don't listen to the right podcast.
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	You can export your podcast list, import it into a new one.
	You can find that at podcastapps.com.
	The No Agenda Show currently recommends Podcast Addict and Podverse, because when we go live, you'll be reminded with the bat signal, This is where you get all your podcasts, and now you can go straight into our live troll room, with the troll room, with the stream, everything right there in front of your nose.
	And some of the trolls are doing that right now.
	Let's see how many we have.
	Hello trolls, let me see.
	We have today currently 1812.
	1812 seems kind of on par for a Thursday, am I right?
	Eh, I'd like to see 19.
	All right, well, I don't know what happened to you trolls.
	You should bring in some more trolls who'd like to see 19.
	That's the word, the official word.
	Of course, many of these trolls you can also find or reach or follow on noagendasocial.com, which I also will say is getting a little rowdy.
	You know, people are a little unhinged.
	Have you seen any of this behavior on noagendasocial.com?
	Not to any new extreme.
	No, I just, you know, I see.
	I've always, you know, I blocked so many people.
	Yeah, that's why people, you should have blocked.
	Yeah, and I think that, you know, because people are leaving, like, well, someone said something offensive.
	Why don't you just block them?
	Well, that's good.
	You know, and then, and by the way, stop DMing me.
	I do not respond to DMs on noagendasocial.com.
	Well, you know, I have said this myself.
	I just don't notice them because they don't have a little flag.
	There's no flag.
	I don't know a DM came in.
	Very hard to see that it's a little... Yeah.
	Then I click on it by accident or on accident, as the millennials would say.
	So I click on it on accident and boom, there's a bunch of DMs that are all backed up.
	Yeah.
	Do not DM us.
	If you've got something to say, say it in public.
	You can DM me if you want.
	I'm not that picky.
	But you might not hear from me for months.
	It's at John C. Dvorak.
	You can DM him as much as you want.
	But you might not hear from me for months.
	Yeah, I'm not gonna respond at all.
	If you got something to say, say it out in the open.
	It's like, I don't like what's happening here.
	I got no time for that.
	Block.
	Mute.
	Mute's a good one, too.
	Mute.
	Block.
	Do that.
	Don't go to the main timeline if you're afraid of stuff, you get triggered by stuff.
	But there's also a lot of people just posting memes all day long.
	Oh my goodness.
	It costs a lot of disk space.
	People don't care.
	Until we have to charge them.
	God bless Aaron, our man.
	God bless him for managing that whole thing.
	You guys are very unthankful, ungrateful.
	What it takes to run that.
	It's crazy.
	Anyway, how are they unthankful?
	Well, they just use up resources not taking into any consideration what it takes.
	When you make certain actions, particularly in the way Mastodon works, it just takes up tons of space.
	And people want to have this, you know, now after two weeks your shit's deleted.
	We have to.
	I mean, there's terabytes and terabytes and terabytes, and the bandwidth is off the hook.
	It's a very inefficient system.
	And we only have 10,000 people.
	Maybe we should chop it in half, do 5,000.
	How about that?
	Make you in charge of picking the 5,000.
	I ain't got nothing to do with it.
	Follow us, Adam at noagendersocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendersocial.com.
	Seriously, it is a great place to hang out, but sometimes people get a little pissed off at each other.
	You can just tell.
	The people who are listening at higher speeds to the podcast are unruly.
	There's something going on with them.
	Let's thank the artists for episode 1533, titled Rage Bait.
	I think it was perfect.
	Oh, and yes, I remember this.
	I remember exactly why we chose this one.
	It's a great piece of art, which was done by Corrector Record.
	A beautiful deepfake sign, a young multi-culti girl holding up the sign.
	No 15-minute cities or 1.5-speed podcasts.
	I thought that was very appropriate.
	There was something else we looked at that we liked though.
	There was a number of pieces that were decent.
	The one you wanted initially was the shift into Xi.
	No, that's the one you wanted.
	Capitalist agenda.
	You liked that one.
	I did like it.
	Yeah, I kind of liked it too, but it was so small.
	Our G thing was too small and... Well, the thing is, if you don't see the title of the art, which only shows up on noagendaartgenerator.com, then you don't know that it's, like, shift into G. All I saw was the 33 shift pattern.
	I thought that was cool.
	I thought it was a nice piece otherwise.
	What I liked were two.
	I liked slow agenda with the sloth.
	Which you hated, Tantaniel.
	I didn't hate it, I just didn't think much of it.
	You said, I hate that one.
	You literally said, I hate that one.
	And No Agenda No Merch was cute with the broken cup.
	I liked that one.
	You didn't feel much for that.
	Going back to the No 1-5 by Corrector record they got to win, I think there was a flaw in the piece, noticing it after the fact.
	Oh, do tell.
	It says no 15-minute cities or 1.5-speed podcasts.
	It should be 1.5X.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	Good point.
	Good point.
	Well, we can dethrone him, take it off, and delete it.
	Seems like a lot of work.
	Let's see what else was there.
	A couple of Ohio things.
	What was this?
	Oh yeah, Ohio is the new Paris.
	People don't even know what the state Ohio looks like.
	I agree.
	I don't think the gag would go over very well.
	Greta, I don't know whether the Greta thing was there.
	No, it just, it was, no.
	I think this piece won.
	It was simple, did the trick.
	It's, you know, someone holding up a sign and then putting some copy on the sign.
	It's easy to do.
	It's not the most creative thing in the world, but it worked.
	It did, it did.
	We certainly appreciate it.
	I mean, Paul Couture's art, actual art next to it.
	And above it was probably better technically, but no.
	Which was the graffiti spray can?
	I mean, the problem with that, Sir Paul, is too small.
	It's just too small.
	It would look great hung up as a poster.
	But you know, you look at the... Even if I look at it, When blowed up big when and big and it's hard to read it's beautiful piece, you know Something deconstruction yellow.
	I mean this SEO established 2007 which Relates the pie is a beautiful piece, but it's too small We always run into this it's so interesting That artists don't follow that or don't don't I don't know, it's not landing.
	Could you say it maybe?
	Maybe you have a better way of explaining it to them.
	It has to be more readable.
	Okay.
	Readable on a small, just go look at podcast, any podcast app.
	I mean, I can't, I blow it up and I can't read what's on the can.
	Go look at a podcast app and then, you know, and see how small that image is usually portrayed.
	Especially on a phone.
	Very, very small, yeah.
	On a phone, it's going to be very small.
	It's not going to be your five, what is it, 526?
	It's going to be, you know, 250 or 520.
	It's going to be 256.
	That's the biggest you're going to see it.
	And that's what you're going to have to go off of.
	And that's how we look at it.
	NoahArtGenerator.com.
	You can follow along live if you're listening to the show.
	Or even after the fact, you can go there and just refresh and see what's going on.
	Or again, in one of those modern podcast apps, we have chapters with images that Dreb Scott does for us all the time.
	Love it a lot.
	It's all part of our value for value model, which we have... I'm sorry?
	Yeah.
	What?
	I was looking at one of the tabs on my browser and I was just irked.
	Well, do share.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, was it show related at least?
	No.
	Okay.
	I'm saying no.
	Okay.
	Figures.
	It's all part of our value for value model which we pioneered and have been using for a while.
	Another tab issue?
	No, this time I lost a note.
	Ah, there it is.
	This microphone just picks up too many of my grumblings.
	Okay.
	And now it's the microphone.
	Alright.
	No.
	It is.
	You shouldn't be looking at open tabs when you're doing the show.
	Flower Mound from Texas gives us $1,000 right off the bat as our first executive producer for episode 1534 and says, hey John and Adam, this is a little something something to help keep the show going.
	I'd say it's more than a little something something.
	Who was this person from Flower Mound, Texas?
	Sir Otaku!
	I'm sorry, my spreadsheet slid over.
	There we go.
	Sir Otaku.
	It has kept me sane for at least the last 10 years.
	By the way, I lost track of how much I've donated, so I'll always just have to be the Duke of Northeast Texas and the Red River Valley.
	I'm sure we can run a report.
	We should do that.
	Well, the problem is now, well, we could, to a point, maybe.
	The problem is that PayPal stops keeping the tabs after three years.
	Don't we have, we don't keep that in some system?
	No, we don't do that.
	I mean, actually, Eric does have a database that might be able to pull it out of there.
	I would hope so.
	I would hope so.
	It's possible.
	I would hope so.
	I would hope so.
	Ah, look up Sir Otaku.
	Yeah, that'd be nice.
	Otherwise, you know, you can still be the Duke of Northeast Texas.
	The Archduke is nice.
	He could be Archduke.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	He says that we need to get the No Agenda QSO party back on the air.
	QSO.
	And I, and this is a Ham Radio reference, I think VARAC is where I'm going next.
	The new hot digital mode everyone's talking about.
	VAR, V-A-R-A-C.
	I'm gonna get my rig up and running because that is almost like a social network on hand radio.
	It looks really cool.
	Does AC stand for Adam Curry?
	No, it does not.
	Not at all.
	No.
	Var AC.
	I know it's asynchronous something.
	Asynchronous chat, I think.
	Anyway, he says, uh, uh, I'm just not good at promoting, uh, all the hams that we have in our community.
	Uh, it's okay.
	We can, we can work on that.
	We'll post, let's get a thread going on No Agenda Social.
	He further would like a, uh, JCD mac and cheese and a little girl, yeah.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Macaroni and cheese.
	Cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese James Niemeyer.
	N-I-E-M-E-Y-E-R.
	Niemeyer.
	Niemeyer.
	Niemeyer, I think.
	Niemeyer.
	Niemeyer.
	I would still think Niemeyer.
	But I could be wrong.
	He's in Tulsa. 666.69.
	It's a good donation.
	ITM John and Adam, I've been listening since episode 200.
	Wow.
	Encloses my current donation, 666.69, plus my prior donation puts me into lofty realms of knighthood.
	That's a long time listening.
	Please done me, Sir... Oh... Enion?
	Knight of the Brine Bovines?
	Sir Enion.
	Uh, NJ Sober Karma?
	Eggs Benedict and OJ, please.
	That would be the round table, and a sober karma is just plain, I guess.
	You've got karma.
	You got it.
	Jason Kaiser, Green Bay, Wisconsin, 65175.
	And he says, greeting gents, with my birthday being a palindrome, 3223.
	Nice.
	And also being a show day, well, I took it as a sign to finish off my knighthood.
	Nice one.
	I'd like to thank my brother Tim for hitting me in the mouth back in 2019 on a road trip from Florida to Wisconsin after our father got sick.
	Sadly, we lost our dad four days later, but that trip is still one of my fondest memories with him.
	Thanks, even though you're a douchebag.
	I still love you, big brother.
	I would especially like to thank my smoking hot keeper, Lish.
	Without your support, this nighting would feel empty.
	You lift me higher than I could ever have imagined.
	I love you even more, Lish.
	For my night name, I'd like Sir JK and Green Bay Night of the Entertainment kerfuffle.
	At the round table, some Jack Daniels single barrel and Texas barbecue.
	Oh, that's easy.
	We got that right here.
	Thank you for all you do to keep me sane in an insane world.
	Yes, we regulate your amygdala.
	And remember, fellow producers, if you always do what you're told, you will always be told what to do.
	Jingles!
	I'd like a Rub-A-Lizer and an R2-D2 Karma.
	Thank you sincerely.
	Jason, soon to be Sir JK in Green Bay, Knight of the Entertaining Kerfuffle.
	India.
	Tango.
	Mike.
	Standby.
	Thirty-three.
	Robilizer out.
	You've got Karma.
	Dame Cece of Greensboro, Georgia.
	3-6-5-11.
	Switcheroo?
	Switcheroo, this donation brings my husband and excellent strongman, Lee Rhodes, to knighthood.
	I'd like to give him the name Sir Lee, Knight of the Georgia Bigwood.
	So 1534 is on his birthday, March 2nd.
	Yay!
	Please credit 6507 of this donation to our friend Island Dog.
	It is his birthday as well.
	I don't know if he's on the list, but we should obviously put him on the list, Island Dog.
	Hold on a second.
	Island Dog?
	We are headed...
	To Amelia Island to celebrate these two lads.
	Many thanks for all your hard work, no jingles, no karma, love and lit.
	Dame Cece.
	So it's island, dog, and how old is he?
	Uh, no name.
	No age.
	It's just a birthday.
	Is today?
	Yeah, March 2nd.
	Okay, today.
	It was not on the list.
	Good catch.
	And Sir Lee, Knight of the Big Georgia Wood.
	Yep, we got the switcheroo there.
	Beautiful.
	I'll do the next two, since this is one of my favorite donation notes.
	Walkman Duke of Ohio?
	Walkman Duke of Ohio, Louisville, Ohio, 333.33, and the message reads, Hey, that's all I got.
	Hey, did you get anything else on that?
	Yeah, it looks like him.
	Okay, I love it.
	Then we have Lindsey, is this Lindsey Wilson, from Ontario, Oregon, 333, with a very long note, which there's no way we're going to read that.
	P.S.
	Sorry this note was so long.
	I'll read that part.
	March 1st is my birthday.
	Please add me to the birthday list.
	I turned 33, so I figured it was time to donate.
	333, please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Been listening to you two guys constantly since December 2021, when I got the COVID.
	Oh no!
	And I had some time on my hands.
	I would like to send a shout out to my friend Dustin, who hit me in the mouth, but he needs to be called out as a douchebag, seeing as how he has listened to you guys longer, but hasn't donated yet.
	And then he goes on to say, he gives us the reason why he listened.
	I will read that because it's a very long note.
	To be honest, it took me a few tries to get into this podcast, but once it clicked, well, I've been listening ever since and haven't looked back.
	I knew this was an amazing podcast where I'd find myself chuckling out loud when hearing you guys deconstruct the media.
	I knew I was absolutely hooked to this show, though when I heard John C. Dvorak say the word butthole when talking about Colin Powell after he died.
	Wow, that's so lame, talking about the dead that way.
	I don't think it was right after he died, by the way.
	But that says, just remember, John, that's how you get them hooked.
	Call out people as buttholes.
	Well, he continues to say, I've never laughed so hard.
	My goodness.
	So it had to be some other situation.
	I don't remember calling Colin Powell a butthole.
	I don't either, but it sounds like something that could have come up.
	Well, it's possible.
	He wanted a number of jingles.
	The one he... You're trying to say he and not a she?
	Oh, this is... What do you think?
	I don't know.
	Wait, what was the name again?
	Lindsey.
	Oh, could be.
	Most Lindsey's are women.
	Oh man, no.
	In fact, all the Lindsey's, I think, let me think, Lindsey Graham, yeah, woman.
	Who else?
	Lindsey... There you go.
	Lindsey won the full China is Asshole!
	China is Asshole!
	There you go.
	Maybe it was Donald Trump, don't just... Do we have the... I thought this was the full one.
	Oh, here's the full, full one.
	We'll give you this one.
	Donald Trump don't trust China!
	China is Asshole!
	And give you a little bit of karma.
	Thank you very much.
	You've got karma.
	I tend to say a-hole.
	Yeah, I know.
	Butthole doesn't sound like a-hole.
	Butthole doesn't sound like you.
	I agree.
	Dame Jennifer in San Marcos, California.
	Sorry to bug you.
	I, Dame Jennifer of Northern Mexico, just noted 333 in honor of son James' 626th birthday on March 3rd.
	My son introduced me over 10 years ago to your gospel.
	Please send James karma.
	He's selling everything and moving to Europe in the next few months.
	Or maybe she's selling everything.
	Somebody's selling everything and moving to Europe.
	Thank you, grassy ass.
	Well, whoever that is, I'd love to know why the decision to move to Europe and where in Europe.
	And what does grassy ass got to do with anything?
	I don't know, but maybe it goes with butthole.
	You've got karma.
	Robert Barnes, 333 from Murraysville, Pennsylvania, just moved to Valpo, Indiana.
	Looking forward to finding some local No Agenda meetups, need some moving in karma.
	Well, if you're in Indiana, Indiana is a huge No Agenda state and the Indianapolis crew, they're off the hook.
	That's a big group.
	So go to noagendameetups.com and learn where.
	You've got karma.
	I'm gonna read a $500 note that came in and this is a make-good that we have listed.
	And this is a daming for, this is an old make-good from, I guess she just put it off when we had our special, and I checked the dates, it's fine.
	From our 1500 show?
	From our 1500 show?
	Yeah.
	Kiki of the Dakotas.
	Dear John and Adam, yours is truly the best podcast in the universe.
	Your discussions are the perfect blend of thought-provoking commentary and belly-laugh-producing humor.
	How incredibly and uniquely gifted you both are.
	Thank you for all the good you do in so many people's lives.
	You have to, this note has been scanned, you have to read, look at her handwriting, it's quite interesting.
	It's like architects.
	Would you please award me the title of Dame Kiki the Dakotas, no jingles, no karma, just some super hot Carolina Reaper salsa for the roundtable.
	If you need some, I can bring jars.
	I canned last summer.
	Oh yeah.
	Blow your head off for the roundtable sharing.
	Thank you and love you both.
	Kiki.
	Since I don't have the moat in front of me.
	Hot Carolina Reaper what salsa?
	Yeah, yeah, this is Reaper peppers.
	I'm surprised you can can them.
	Don't melt the can?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, while we're doing that then, I think there was one other Make good requests which I didn't understand from Sir Bradley?
	Or Sir Robert of the Freehold, I think was that?
	Yeah.
	He said, and I remember we knighted him, we talked about his freedom seeds, the 5x56x45mm bullets, the most common rifle caliber in the U.S.
	I'm not sure why he wanted to make good, but maybe it was just to say, shout out to local NA 817.
	So there you go.
	Sir Robert of the Freehold.
	And then I have a Sir Bradley.
	I'm not quite sure what that is.
	Insta Black Knight.
	Do you have that?
	I don't have it.
	Okay, I'm not sure what that is.
	Someone will have to come circle back and let us know what that one was.
	Yeah, it's a Black Knight.
	You can put it off forever.
	Sir Addison's next in Chesterfield, Missouri, 333.
	Thank you all for all the deconstruction media on a regular basis for your audience.
	You too must be supported.
	Your work is invaluable.
	Adam, I'd like to publicly thank you for professing the name of Jesus Christ in your last JRE appearance.
	May God continue to bless you and the Keeper.
	In your faith.
	As always, producers and douchebags alike can save 33% on the coupon code NOAGENDA at eebles.com and mydelta8.com.
	Whatever those are.
	Well, we know what eebles are.
	That's the roll-on CBD.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	That's good stuff.
	And the MyDelta8.com, I haven't seen that one.
	That's basically one molecule over from THC but is yet sold legally because it's not.
	Something like that.
	No jingles, just a bit of house karma as my wife and I are hoping to move into an earth ship situated 40 acres in the beautiful Ozarks.
	An earth ship.
	And the Ozarks in the coming, that's a good area.
	God willing.
	Signing off for now, sir.
	Addison, CEO of Shitposts.
	He's at the General on noagendasocial.com.
	This is very interesting.
	The Earthship.
	I'd like to know more about your Earthship.
	We're sending pictures.
	That sounds cool.
	You've got karma.
	And of course, a disclaimer that mydelta8.com might cause heart attacks.
	Gareth Fatheree.
	Gareth Fatheree from River Oaks, Texas.
	Our first Associate Executive Producer, 224.66, in honor of my late father.
	Keep up the good work.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	Gene, I'll pick the next one, Gene Naftulieff, Sir Gene, as we know, the Duke of Texas.
	He's in Austin, row of ducks, 222.
	He says, I listen at 1.5 speed, so sending you two-thirds of a donation.
	Oh, very funny, Sir Gene.
	And he sent me a note, he says, can you mention that people can catch me on the GriftCast YouTube channel, as well as with Ben on Just Two Good Old Boys, which is a podcast.
	Both of those, I think, at least one of them, airs on NoAgendaStream.com, can be heard in the troll room.
	Good to have you on the list, Sir Gene, thank you.
	If he listens at 1.5, he should donate at 1.5.
	Now you're talking.
	Dame Finger Mole in Fairview Heights, Illinois.
	John and Adam, I'm not broke, but trying to limit spending.
	We are expecting a human resource in April, but we'll continue to thank you for the sanity.
	My knight and I donated during the 1500 episodes.
	So sorry for the delay.
	Bye.
	No problem.
	Glad you made it.
	Appreciate it.
	Danielle Parks, Lakeville, Minnesota nuts.
	$200.38.
	Birthday donation from my sister, Amanda.
	Thanks for hitting me in the mouth.
	And she wanted a regular mac and cheese jingle.
	We got it.
	Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand.
	Oops, slipped it in.
	Gail Goldsmith in Philly, Pennsylvania.
	$200.
	You guys are the best!
	Thank you.
	And I'll read this one too.
	Anonymous comes in from Hollis, New Hampshire. $200.
	We got Liam Pellot, P-L-O-T, Portland, Oregon.
	I know the name.
	Monthly second Saturday slave soiree donation from the slaves at Oregon Local 33 in Portland.
	Yes, a lot of these meetups are now gathering up donations and awarding them to someone who wins the raffle at the meetup and then that gets credited as an associate or executive producer.
	And that's very nice, I like that.
	We gather monthly on the second Saturday at 6 o'clock at Dick's Primal Burger in Southeast Woodstock.
	Come one all, come one, come all for a respite from the woke revolution!
	And that wraps up our Executive and Associate Executive Producers for episode 1533.
	We thank you all very much.
	These are credits which are forever credits.
	They last forever.
	You can use them wherever credits are recognized.
	And believe me, that goes up to the highest levels of show business.
	Look at imdb.com if you want to see that some of the heavy hitters even use and are proud of these titles.
	And of course, you can always put on your LinkedIn, on your resume.
	And if anyone questions it, if anyone ever questions it, we'd be very happy to vouch for you.
	Before you move to the next donations, we take it through to the 50.
	I want to thank Cody and Nicole Dowd.
	They were very kind.
	Cody is retiring soon.
	He's a flight instructor at Corpus Christi at the Naval Air Base.
	He invited me to go down there and fly in the sim, which I did on Monday.
	In the Navy simulator, John, this was the most crazy thing I've ever done.
	In like the big ball, you know, the like three-story high ball that you get in and then it's this huge screen.
	It goes up and down and back and forth.
	No, actually it doesn't.
	It's like a 270 degree screen.
	The screen is moving.
	Now you got some feedback and stuff in the cockpit, you know, that makes it feel realistic, but it was all the screen that's moving.
	It's like 12 projectors.
	It was really, really cool.
	Of course, me as a licensed pilot, I was not able to land on the aircraft carrier.
	Tried it four times and failed.
	So they wanted a deducing.
	You've been de-douched.
	They gave us $100 in cash on the spot and douchebag for Keith and Chad who are both douchebags!
	Douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	Thanks guys, it was really nice.
	It was a big treat for me.
	So I got to fly in the Ames simulator, the NASA Ames simulator.
	They have a bunch of different programs.
	So I got to fly a 747 and a thing of some future plane that uses a joystick.
	Nice.
	Which I could take off and land, but they kept doing, they like to do stuff like this.
	So they put you in the 747 and they ice up the place, the whole runway, everything's ice.
	Why not?
	Fly, boy, you can do it!
	And so you give it the gas, and the plane immediately skids and spins out of control into the terminal.
	So this was the T-45 jet that I was flying.
	Man, that's harder than it looks.
	It really is.
	The cool one was getting launched off the ship with a catapult.
	Oh, that'd be cool.
	It was very realistic.
	Oddly, oddly realistic.
	But it was fun to do.
	Good people.
	Onward with our, uh, donations above 50, which starts with Javier Vasquez in San Diego.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	One of our favorite donations.
	Peter Regishnig.
	Regis... Ah, brother.
	Regit... Registashnig.
	Regitshnig.
	Maybe.
	In Thornton, Colorado, $102.89.
	Barron Latican, our buddy in Houston, Texas, $100.
	Jaron VanHaringen in Laguna Niguel in California, $100.
	Ben Harringen in Laguna Niguel in California, 100.
	Teresa Diaz in Bend, Oregon, 100.
	Daniel Reekob in San Diego, California, 100.
	Wes Stewart in Mesa, Arizona, 9-0-0-6.
	Lopsided boob donation.
	Whoa, whoa.
	The nine is.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin continues his trend with, from Locust, North Carolina, trying to set some record here.
	It's definitely going to Guinness Book of Records, 8-0-0-8.
	Yeah.
	Sir Bias Grayson, Jacksonville, Florida, 7564.
	And this stands for 7 hours 56 minutes and 40 seconds, which was his finishing time two years in a row in an assault on Mount Mitchell, which he just signed up for again.
	All right.
	We'll give you some travel karma at the end, sir.
	Timothy Harwood, Corvallis, Oregon, needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And that's for $75.
	Gregory Hunter in Springfield, Missouri, $73.73.
	Christopher Eisenhardt, New Brownfells, Texas, $73.73, which is a promotion from last show.
	Allen Fletcher, Rio Vista, Arizona, $70.
	Shady Lane in Shady Lane.
	It says Shady Lane in Clinton, Utah.
	6969 birthday on the list.
	Henry Cozzoli in Livonia, Michigan on the list for birthday 6969.
	Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana 5602.
	Sir Michael Janczak in Sun Prairie, Wisconsin, $6,006.
	Jamie Buell in Vista, California, $6,006.
	Linda Terry Dominelli, Clifton Park, New York, $53.33.
	Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa, $50.01.
	And the following people are $50 donors, good list today.
	Starting with Kiki the Dakotas, who sent some money in to get us to read her Make Good note, which we did already.
	She's in Mandan, North Dakota.
	Kim Winship in Rancho Santa Fe.
	Eric Garland in Ocala, Florida.
	Chris Goodman in Leandro, Texas.
	Julie Minadeo in Costa Mesa.
	Jill Woods in Ocean Grove, New Jersey.
	Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado.
	Amy Zipkin in Greensboro, Georgia.
	Claire Thornhill in Toronto, Ontario.
	Danielle First in Kauna, Wisconsin.
	And I'll get a note about how to pronounce that correctly, I'm sure.
	Dotted Mind in Lincoln, UK.
	Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado.
	Justin Heiner in Vinegrove, Kentucky.
	Sonny Pang in Lee, UK.
	UK people.
	Herbert Hess in Spring, Texas.
	Naomi Yates in Bellevue, Colorado.
	She is the first owner.
	Let's give her a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Kyle Mahn in Cincinnati, Greg Hartlaub in Cincinnati, Richard Gardner, Sir Richard Gardner, New York City, Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina, Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon, Brent Chicky in Lake Worth, Florida, Kelsey Lavinio in Milwaukee, Pro Flooring LLC in Viroqua, Wisconsin.
	Get your flooring.
	Pro Flooring.
	Ryan Sharp in Huntsville, Alabama.
	Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	And last but not least, our buddy Aichi Kitagawa, who I believe is a baron by now, in San Francisco, California.
	I want to thank all these people for contributing to this show and making it work.
	For those who wanted it, we have some goat karma ready to roll for you.
	You've got karma.
	Remember, you can support us at our website.
	It's not that hard to remember.
	devolrag.org slash n a. Value for value, people.
	No creepy commercial commercials, no advertising, no creepy commercial money, anything like that.
	It's all you.
	It's always been you for more than 15 years.
	We're very proud of that.
	The No Agenda Show, the best podcasting universe for you, by you, the people.
	Yes, the people.
	And of course, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for bringing us Team 34!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
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	Shut up, slave!
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	And we'd love to congratulate people who are celebrating trips around the sun.
	Lindsay Wilson turned 33 yesterday.
	Jack from Yankee Town celebrates today, as does Jason Kaiser.
	Dame Cece wishes her husband Lee Rhodes a happy birthday for today, and her friend Island Dog also a happy birthday today.
	We did have it on the list.
	Dame Jennifer wishes her son, James, a happy birthday.
	He turns 26 tomorrow.
	Danielle Parks, her sister Amanda, is celebrating tomorrow as well.
	Also, congratulations to Shea Delane, Henry Coccazzoli, turning 69.
	And that's our list.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	I did want to make mention of a new producer website which is really cool.
	It's the No Agenda Producer Database.
	And it is N-A-P-D-B dot com.
	N-A-P, no agenda producer, D-B for database dot com.
	This is really spectacular.
	It shows everyone who was, with their titles, when they got it, what show it was.
	It also includes the artists in there, and has totals, how many album arts they've scored.
	I haven't looked at the whole thing, obviously, because it's 15 years, but he seems to have almost everything in there.
	Is the CIA doing this?
	Who's doing this?
	Let me see if I can remember who did this for us.
	I have it up here.
	Now I forget his name.
	NAPDB.com.
	You're looking at it?
	It's quite extensive.
	At least it shows a real overview of value for value.
	I liked it a lot.
	I thought it was beautiful.
	We do have a couple of knights and a dame on deck, so I think we should roll out this.
	Here you go.
	No, I'll take that one anyway.
	That's the pearl-handled one, I love that one.
	Ah, Kiki, step it on up!
	James Niemeyer, Jason Kaiser, Lee Rhodes, all of you are about to become knights and one dame of the No Agenda Roundtable, thanks to your support of the No Agenda Show and the amount of $1,000 or more.
	Very proud to pronounce the Kate Lee as Dame Kiki of the Dakotas, Sir Enion, Knight of the Brine Bovine, Sir JK in Green Bay, Knight of the Entertaining Kerfuffle, and Sir Lee, Knight of the...
	George of Bigwood.
	For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	By request, Eggs Benedict and OJ, Jack Daniel's Single Barrel and Texas Barbecue and Hot Carolina Reaper Salsa.
	Along with that, we've got some ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts and of course, The requisite mud and mead, which is always a crowd favorite.
	While you're munching on that, go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Everybody can go there and take a look and you can see how handsome they are.
	But you can't buy them!
	No, you only can get it by becoming a knight or a dame of the round table.
	And for those of you newly inducted today, please...
	Give us your address where you can send it off to, along with your ring size.
	and we appreciate your support of the No Agenda Show.
	No Agenda!
	Beat up!
	It's not your comedy!
	If you want to be part of a community...
	The No Agenda meetups are for you.
	These are completely producer-organized.
	I was just mentioning the Indianapolis meetup.
	That's a huge group.
	Tina and I are definitely going to visit that.
	April 17th, we're going to Nashville area for the meetup that we missed because I had COVID last year.
	And if you're looking for something today, you can still get to the Marching Into the Golden Gulag get-together at Lincoln's Roadhouse, 630 in Denver, Colorado.
	Shawongunk Ridge Meetup is coming up in about an hour or so, an hour and a half at Bacchus Restaurant, Brewery & Billiards in New Paltz, New York.
	Saturday, the tiny amygdalae of Anchorage for Rondi Intermission, four o'clock there at Bear Paw Bar & Grill in Anchorage.
	Also on Saturday, Operation Pizza Time at Papa's Pizza in Eugene, Oregon.
	Come chill in the Veel Chill Taste-Off.
	That's Casa De Loco, Smithville, Texas.
	That is also on Saturday.
	That'll be at 2 o'clock.
	We have Making Our Own Milieu at the Cleveland Draft House, Garner, North Carolina, at 4 o'clock.
	That's on Saturday.
	And also Saturday, the No Agenda Lowlands Wageningen Economic Food Hup Wef Festival.
	Those guys are crazy.
	Four o'clock at the Stadsbrouwerij in Wageningen in Gelderland, the Netherlands.
	Just a lot of G's in that one is hosting it.
	And if you look at the list, just go over to the calendar, NoahJennaMeetups.com.
	We've got them all the way through April and beyond.
	Noah Jenna Meetups, be a part of a community because connection is protection.
	NoahJennaMeetups.com, you can always start one yourself.
	I do have better end-of-show ISOs, I think, this time.
	Do you have any?
	where you won't be triggered or hell's the name you want to be where everybody feels the same it's like a party all right i mean i got some i do have better end of show isos i think this time do you have any i have four oh well let me play mine first then and i I only have three.
	So I think you may be kicking my ass on this one.
	This is an oldie but a goodie.
	I figured I'd bring it back.
	They could have been looking into China.
	Yeah, I'll just throw in a China one.
	Uh, this one.
	You're all gonna die.
	Kind of like that one.
	It's right up in our No Agenda alley.
	And finally, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
	Good ol' Keith Olman.
	That's a good one.
	Oberman, I like that.
	We don't usually run negative things at the end like the Daya one.
	Um...
	I have some that are competitive.
	Okay.
	And I have one that I just put in here as a joke.
	This is, because it's like, what?
	This is the Ed Asner ISO.
	This is Ed Asner, and you're listening to No Lies Radio.
	A little long.
	It's too long.
	I didn't expect to be used.
	Hello, Poland.
	Hello, Poland.
	Our president is so brain-dead.
	Oh, Poland.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Okay, try this one.
	Go for a run.
	Most mornings, I like to go for a run.
	I don't know why I picked that one.
	Okay, try this one.
	Extra kick.
	Got an extra kick.
	I don't know.
	I think I like crazy pills.
	Yeah, I can't really argue against it.
	Okay.
	Alright, well then, let's not argue against it.
	We'll use the crazy pills.
	I had a series of train crash clips.
	Seems like trains are the most dangerous mode of transportation these days.
	If you've paid attention.
	I have an Ask Adam clip.
	Oh, at the end of the show.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I have a clip.
	This is the DeSantis test.
	And the question I'm asking you, is this DeSantis or artificial intelligence?
	A vicious dictator launched an unjustified, illegal and unprovoked attack on an innocent people and a sovereign country.
	He thought that it would be over in days.
	He thought the people would back down and allow for his domination.
	But what he underestimated was the defiance, the determination and the courage of the Ukrainian people, not just in Ukraine, It doesn't even sound like DeSantis, to be honest.
	At the beginning, it sounded like DeSantis.
	And then it just didn't even sound like him.
	What is it?
	It's some French politician.
	You tried to fake me!
	You tried to fake me!
	It's a failure!
	I'm too good.
	Well, he had it going for a moment there.
	That's what I heard.
	I heard them sounding good at the beginning and then it just crapped out, but I'm beginning to think the best AI voices are just people that sound exactly like someone else, and there's plenty of them.
	I got a guy the other day who heard us talk about something on the show and then he played it at high speed and he said, well, now I don't know what a deepfake is.
	I don't know if it's at high speed.
	And people are getting so confused by this, these deepfakes.
	I think, you know, you can tell.
	I think a human being who listens to other human beings in real time can detect a deepfake.
	I mean, you see this radio station now, 8GPT Radio?
	So far.
	Yeah?
	Well, you think it's gonna get better?
	It'll get better, I'm sure.
	But you still need writing, you know?
	You can make someone sound the right way, but you still need... The output has to be convincible.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I agree with that.
	I want to do these quick train clips because we've always heard trains good, planes bad.
	Well, what you really don't want to do is ride in a train anymore.
	Charred carriages and billowing smoke.
	This wreckage testifies the violence of the collision between a passenger train, which was derailed, and a freight train still on the tracks.
	The crash triggered a fire and many passengers were trapped inside carriages.
	I think like 30 people died on that.
	We have another one in the U.S.
	Another freight train derailed today, this time near Bradenton, Florida.
	Two tanker cars loaded with propane fuel went off the tracks.
	No one was hurt, and so far no leaks have been detected.
	The cause of this wreck is now under investigation.
	It's so bad we need a whistleblower program!
	In the aftermath of the toxic train derailment in Ohio, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is now calling for all major rail companies to join a voluntary whistleblower program.
	It allows employees to confidentially report dangerous situations, but Buttigieg says no major freight company currently participates in the program, including Norfolk Southern, which is responsible for the Ohio derailment.
	Norfolk Southern says it already operates a similar program on its own.
	So, trains just dangerous.
	Thousand derailments a year, minimum.
	U.S.
	alone, but you know, not like in Greece where 30 people perish.
	It's happened.
	Yeah, of course it's happened.
	It's happened.
	So I sent out the word to the producers to find me a clip of you saying that AOC would become president.
	Oh yes, and you found it.
	This is not the clip I'm looking for, but it's okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I still haven't gotten a real good one.
	If I remember, the dispute was, I say she would be a great president.
	Versus, she will become president.
	I'm not sure.
	Was that the discussion?
	No, that's what my rep remembers.
	That she'd be a great president.
	You wouldn't say that in a million years.
	Incredibly effective.
	I think the guy's making a very good point.
	And I agree that I've always said, watch out for AOC, ma'am.
	You don't have to be smart.
	And I think lots of people would agree with me.
	To be president, even.
	She's an elected official.
	I'm sorry.
	The more interviews, the better.
	She's an elected official.
	She certainly...
	Alright, well that proves nothing!
	That proves that you thought she'd be president.
	It'd be okay if she was.
	I know, this is not, like I said... It's out of context.
	Disclaimer, this is not the clip I'm looking for.
	The clip I'm looking for, I know that I said something like, no, you're kidding me.
	Something like that.
	All right, that's all right.
	Well, for the next show then, I'll give you this one, okay?
	For the next show, please bring the copy of International Law where you can't steal Russian money.
	I'd like to know the law, the international law that states that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm sure there's one out there.
	Maybe.
	Who maintains international law?
	These are the questions we will answer on the next outstanding episode of the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Coming up next on the stream, let me see, who do we have here?
	We've got Oh, it's unrelenting.
	It's Gene Naftalief and Darren O'Neill, the guys who hate each other but pretend they're not.
	I don't know.
	Sexist Rants will be the title of that one.
	Sounds like them to me.
	End of show mixes.
	We've got Neil Jones, our Clip Custodian.
	His 200th episode that he's done clips for us.
	We really appreciate that, good sir.
	And Professor John Jones.
	With a good little ditty.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
	By the way, it's nice out.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday with another episode of the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Please remember us at dvorak.org slash NA.
	Until that time, adios mofos and hooey hooey and such.
	Transcription by CastingWords And let me tell you long, John, when you become a guy with a bank account, they gut you.
	Yes, sir, sir, they gut you.
	The first thing that happens to a guy like that, he starts wanting to go into restrooms and sit down at a table and eat salad and cupcakes and tea.
	The next thing the dope wants is a room.
	Yes, sir.
	A room with steam heat and curtains and rugs.
	And before you know it, he's all softened up and he can't sleep unless he has a bed.
	They begin creeping up on you.
	Trying to sell you something.
	They get long claws.
	And they get a stranglehold on you.
	First thing you know, you own things.
	Now your whole life is messed up with a lot more stuff.
	You get license fees, and gas, and oil, taxes, and insurance, and identification cards, and bills, and flat tires, and dents, and traffic tickets, and courtrooms, and lawyers, and fines, and a million and one other things.
	And what happens?
	You're not the free and happy guy you used to be.
	You gotta have money to pay for all those things.
	And when you become a guy with a bank account, Yes, sir, they got you.
	You could make it look like the cafeteria at Star Wars if you want.
	Come on.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Star Trek.
	Star Wars.
	Star Wars?
	Is that Star Wars?
	Yeah.
	I thought it was Star Trek.
	It's next generation.
	If you're thinking of that bar that says Star Wars, that's the one that you want to refer to.
	That's Star Trek.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Star Trek Deep Space Nine.
	Almost got in trouble for that one.
	Thank you.
	You know, Star Wars is the bar.
	Star Trek is the little place where they have their replicators.
	The one where they have, like, the three boozed ladies serving drinks.
	Oh my God.
	I know, it'll be emails for the next three weeks.
	People were very, very happy that someone was just listening to them and answering their questions.
	Norfolk Southern Train carrying hazardous chemicals.
	Blanketing the town with a toxic brew.
	And asthma symptoms in the morning.
	Slaves in the morning knew that something was wrong.
	Palestine, your train's not coming through.
	Rashes and nausea.
	Rashes and discourage.
	All the birds and fish gone.
	Dioxin smoke blends with the morning dew.
	Blanketing the town with a toxic balloon.
	Oh, I've seen fire from that train.
	We call things accidents.
	There is no accident.
	What?
	What is Norfolk Southern going to do right now?
	Everybody is pretty disgusted with everybody.
	Everybody is pretty disgusted with everybody.
	More vinyl chloride hitting leaves again.
	Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg finally visited East Palestine, Ohio, Thursday.
	Gonna cough now, hear me wheezing if we ain't opening up plans.
	Five dollar check feeds me for just one day.
	Do you make decisions now because they don't have the money?
	My body aching, animals sick and bad.
	Black people in the town with a toxic vote.
	Trump criticized President Biden for going to Ukraine this week.
	We call things accidents.
	There is no accident.
	Everybody is pretty disgusted with everybody.
	Do they make decisions now because they don't have the money and they need the money?
	Buttigieg's trip came a day after former President Trump visited East Palestine.
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