This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1532.
This is no agenda.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region No.
6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm not taking part in any sandwich-eating thing.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Sandwich-eating thing?
Do tell.
So I'm watching Hoda and Jenna, as I would do every morning.
Of course, on GMA Part 3.
And, uh... What a sad life you have, sir.
Hoda was missing in action.
They had some guy from the show, some other guy, whose name I can never recall.
And they were discussing the biggest thing going on on the internet right now, is how to eat a sandwich.
This is how bad it's become.
This brings me back to the blogging days, where people would blog, I ate a cheese sandwich today, and that would be their blog post.
Ah, this plays into something I wanted to talk with you about.
How convenient.
Well, it would be convenient because you keep up with this stuff.
You're probably all in on the sandwich thing.
Yeah, I'm all in on the sandwich thing.
No, I'm going to tie into your newsletter.
Where you notice that the newsletter was not as effective as it used to be?
I mean, do you want to just briefly summarize what you wrote?
Yeah, I was bitching that generally speaking the PayPal donations that come in at the moment the newsletter is sent out are increased by A certain percentage of the original number in this formula.
Yeah.
And that has been not working recently for some reason.
And I got a lot of notes from everybody saying, hey, the notes all had the same theme.
Hey, we're all broke.
And I'm thinking, well, gee, Joe Biden says the economy's booming.
Every note says we're all broke.
That's interesting.
Yeah, pretty much.
Thematically, the notes all said, we're all broke!
Something else is going on here.
And you identified it, and I put a link to this in the show notes.
On May 25th of 2021, you wrote an essay titled, The Death of Expertise and the Rise of the Internet.
So this was mid-pandemic.
And you penned this yourself, and I shall just read the opening paragraph.
I don't use pens, but go on.
But go on.
Thank you, Kara.
I will read it.
I'm sorry.
I did it again!
There you go!
You're always doing it!
The modern internet has become a hopeless cesspool of lies, misinformation, malinformation, bad intentions, ignorant good intentions, and half-truths.
Outright hoaxes, slander, cruelty, as well as a refuge for creeps, criminals, thieves, phonies, agent provocateurs, would-be revolutionaries, predators, useless and fake reviews, satanists, and worse!
Linking the entire globe of all the subsystems of corporate archives, personnel records, medical information, electrical grid interactions, and more, will turn out to be the dumbest thing humanity has ever done.
This is one of my favorite pieces from you.
And I think you're absolutely correct.
Now you go on to say that we should basically shut the internet down, which I think... I've been saying that for years!
We could have a debate over that.
But there's something else going on that ties into this, and I noticed it this week, as I was watching some videos that someone sent me, and let me see if I got this...
And it was, yeah here it is, it was a deepfake of Rogan and Peterson.
Now just listen to this, I'm astounded about just how good this really is.
Alright, Jordan, I've been hearing a lot about Peppa Pig lately.
What's all the fuss about this show?
Well, Joe, you know Peppa Pig.
It's not just a bloody kid's show.
It has a lot of layers to it.
There's actually a political dimension to Peppa Pig that a lot of people overlook.
Wow, really?
I never thought about that.
What do you mean by political dimension?
Okay, so this goes on, and I think, in general, I mean, I can hear pretty quickly that this is what we would call so-called deepfake.
It went with video, so that actually distracts from the trick.
Because, you know, the mouths never really work.
The mouths are not there yet.
But I realized that people who listen to podcasts in 1.5 or 2x speed, you really can't separate fact from fiction when you're doing that.
Because, in general, you're now already used to, particularly if you use like Overcast's smart speed feature which chops out silences, You know, you're getting a choppy version, you're really training your brain to accept horrible, horribly faked audio as probably real and good, because that's what you're listening to.
And here's the thing, I posted Something just to kind of throw it out there to the effect of if you listen to podcasts at, you know, 1.5 or 2 point time speed, you will not be able to detect the, you know, AI, phony AI stuff in the future.
You know, the choice is yours, whatever.
You know, I saw you going back and forth on the No Agenda Social with this argument, and I never realized that you based it on the Peppa Pig fake.
That's where it started!
And the amount of people who listen at high speed is astounding.
And I think that you're a lot, I mean, what's happening here, because I've asked many people, you know, why do you do that?
Well, I can, I can do more in my day.
I can read more, more Substacks.
I can listen to more podcasts.
Your amygdala is completely out of whack if you're doing this.
I believe that your nervous system is being hijacked.
It's very unhealthy.
This is analogous to Hitler changing the age from 432 to 440, whether that was true or not.
But when things are not In tune, when they're not resonating because they're human.
I think this is really bad for you.
And what I see happen is everyone is now doing outrage podcasting.
We got someone who responded to the newsletter, said, how come you didn't start with Ohio?
Why wasn't that your lead?
Well, first of all, we're not a news program.
We don't do leads.
We don't have a meeting about what we're going to do.
It's unscripted.
I don't know, maybe 47,000 people dead in Turkey is more important.
Didn't start with that either.
But I see Tucker Carlson opening his show with 20 minutes on Don Lemon.
You know, and it's like people are consuming so much and they get so riled up.
Like, uh, Hey man, Elon's gonna save us!
Twitter Files is the truth!
Or, uh, Ron DeSantis, he's gonna save us!
Ron DeSantis?
All he's talking about is woke culture.
James O'Keefe will rise again!
No!
No, this isn't- You've been hi- Your nervous systems have been hijacked.
When you find yourself yelling at podcasts agreeing that, yeah, Joe Biden should be in Ohio!
It's like, sure, but you've lost the overall plot of what's going on, and they're winning!
They are winning!
And I think, you know, this dopamine hits.
This is what podcasts are now.
And it goes from Megyn Kelly.
Outrage, outrage, outrage.
She's still mad at Megyn Markle for some reason.
To the pool boy, you know, who will yell about this stuff incessantly.
So, I just want to warn everybody that I think you're out of resonance when you're listening to podcasts at high speed.
And why?
Why are you doing this?
And if it's to cram in more, no, don't drink from a fire hose like that.
Anyway, so it reminded me of that piece of yours from 2021.
It's like, yeah, that's where we're at now.
That's a good piece, by the way.
That's a very good piece.
Now, I'm not going to disagree with anything you had to say, and I think people should be listening.
I think listening to a podcast in the background while you're doing something else, which is what a lot of people do, I think is okay.
But jamming it in at 1.5 because it's, oh, it's three hours, oh, I don't have time for that.
Podcasts are not television.
No.
Even though the best television is, as I think it was some of the early producers in the 50s and 60s would talk about television as being casual.
So a good TV show, sitcom or other, when they were more popular, this doesn't apply to dramas as much, but to sitcoms where you can just come and go.
You don't have to sit and watch the whole show.
You can just watch bits and pieces of it while you do other things.
Yeah.
It was considered the way to do television back in the day.
This is another point that I'd like to bring up.
Why do you need to watch people with headphones on and microphones in front of their faces?
That, okay.
I think that's a different topic.
But it's part of it.
That makes no sense at all to me.
I want to see people's expressions.
You can blame Howard Stern for that.
Was it though?
Well, it's also that other guy, the guy, uh, the, the, the, the, the outrage, um... Outrage?
Well, which one?
Pick them.
There was a lot of them, but I'm talking about the outrage guy who went on and videoed his radio show.
Alex Jones?
No, no, no.
This is a pure radio guy.
Famous.
Imus?
Imus, yeah.
Imus.
Don Imus.
Imus in the morning!
I think Imus may have been the first guy maybe to do that.
Yeah, well, all radio stations around the world do it now.
But people are drawn to it.
I'm not quite sure why.
But anyway, my point is...
I just don't think it's healthy because you are missing context.
Forget that I think we're making art here.
That's okay.
Art!
You know, I always say, would you jog past the Mona Lisa?
Jog past the Mona Lisa!
Don't take a look at it.
But beside that, it's just not healthy.
And I worry for people who don't see what's happening.
And it's like gene.
Sir Gene, man, he listens, he recommends people listen to his own podcast in 1.5 speed.
This is crazy.
Here, let's do this.
Hello.
Now I'm talking to you and you hear me in normal speed.
Stop it!
Okay.
Hopefully that'll come through to people.
Well, I think that the overlooked point here, because you've gone past it, is that if you listen at 1.5 speeds, you will never hear a deepfake.
No, exactly.
You won't hear the deep fakes.
So you can be buffaloed.
And it's getting better.
It really is.
This kind of... Here's an example of one.
Because, you know, of course, our president was in Ukraine.
La-di-da.
So here, this shows up.
Biden, hot mic in Poland!
These three objects were most likely... So this is Biden answering some questions, and then he walks away, and then the press are yelling at him, and apparently he has a hot mic backstage.
I mean, you can't even hear it listening to it normally?
I don't know if you can hear it, but he says, do you think they bought that bullshit?
And someone says, yeah, completely, sir.
All right, let's get out of here.
I mean, you can't even hear it.
You can't even hear it listening to it normally.
I think that's the way you have to do it.
What did that kind of hot mic stuff?
But if you're going to do a fake hot mic... Yeah.
But it was bad.
It was a bad fake because I heard it away and said, that's not Biden.
That's not the same Biden who just walked off stage.
No, but at the end of his speech, Biden's not going to be that erudite.
He's going to be tired.
Right.
So you'd have to have a tired, stumbling Biden, or you'd have to have a hot Biden at the beginning.
But if you listen to it at double speed, you're going to miss it.
Oh, that's great!
Let me send it to Adam!
Let me post it on Telegram!
And I've been catching... Oh man, I can't believe... You know the Matt Lee clip?
This is another problem we have, which relates to your article.
The Matt Lee clip of him berating...
Is it Jake, I guess, about... Jake, or Ned, or... About NATO moving closer to Russia.
Turns out that was from 2019.
I guess we'd missed that clip, because if I hear a clip, I usually detect that we played it before.
But the Internet is a cesspool.
And all I'm seeing now... Oh, so you found out it was from 2019.
It must have been irksome.
Very irksome.
Very irksome.
Yes, of course.
Of course.
Now, that happens.
I didn't catch it either.
I didn't know that there was an old clip.
You know, people should be careful.
Every once in a while I get an old clip from someone.
I say, did you look at the date on that clip?
And then they get very embarrassed.
Yeah, that's a huge problem.
Well, like apparently, you know, Biden fell up the stairs again, leaving Poland.
And people were sending me the old clip of him falling.
That same old clip?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway... Well, the one I saw recently, and I don't know what it was, and nobody else seems to be able to identify... Oh, someone who fell down from halfway?
Fell down the stairs.
Now, that was at the back of the plane, so it must have been press.
That's different.
I'm just saying it because I love everybody, and I see that you've been captured, and the more people I see who are, you know, yelling like, yeah, you know, literally like, Elon's gonna save us!
Twitter files!
No!
No!
No one's coming to save you!
We definitely have to talk about Project Veritas, but I don't know if James O'Keefe is going to rise again and save all of you.
The only thing that can save you is you and your community.
Probably the best community you have is the No Agenda Show.
Go to a meetup.
Because all of the rest is just, it's really going downhill to the fact where it's hard to even get anything from our own media that is worthwhile.
I'm not gonna clip something about how Fox News is trying to take down CNN.
That's the lead story in prime time.
20 minutes of Don Lamont.
Okay, very funny the first time you said it.
These are the stories?
Yeah, this Don Ramon thing is getting a little old.
A little old to be the lead story.
So, you know, it's like, wow, alright.
Enough complaining.
It's only... Boy, that was a good... That was a lot of complaining at the beginning of the show.
Yeah, so I want to look out for everybody.
I love everybody and I'm kind of concerned about this... Oh, that's sweet.
Oh, blow me.
I'm concerned about people listening.
It's not good for you.
It's not harmonious.
It hijacks your nervous system when you do this with a podcast.
Now, let's play a super cut.
By the way, since you mentioned him, You mentioned the pool man.
I found the definitive clip of him in a nutshell.
Okay.
Also, I think it's not a good idea for shows to be bashing other shows.
I agree with that, but this is just Tim Pool in a nutshell, ISO.
Hold on a second.
Look under ISOs.
Oh yeah, I got it.
Here we go.
Now I'm gonna burst your bubble, everybody.
Yeah, exactly.
Breaking!
I listened to one of his shows because he went on one topic for like an hour.
Did he bust your bubble?
Did he bust your bubble?
He says that phrase at least once every 15 minutes.
I'm gonna bust your bubble everybody!
Breaking!
Here's a supercut of your media.
We're not talking about Don Lamon of CNN.
Here's how they talk about the very courageous President of the United States of America.
Joe Biden has put solidarity ahead of his own personal safety.
Air raid sirens and no real guarantee of security.
As air raid sirens blared.
This was incredibly dramatic, Andrea.
It was historic as well.
Historic.
Timely and brave.
The first American president to go to a war zone with no US military presence for security on the ground.
American presidents have made dramatic trips before.
Nixon to China, Kennedy, Reagan to the Berlin Wall.
And presidents have visited US troops in war zones, but never like this.
To find a day of this kind of presidential bravery in a war zone, you've got to go all the way back to 1864.
With Biden's trip to Europe, you know, he is welcomed as not only, frankly, the savior of Ukraine, but also the savior of Europe as a whole.
It's historic.
It's the first time that a U.S.
president has gone into an active war zone that the U.S.
military does not have control over.
And against all odds, it was successful.
The continuing threat quite literally sounding all around the two leaders.
The skies here are not safe and in fact an air raid siren went off while President Biden was here.
Seeing the American president there walking the streets of Kiev while air raid sirens literally sounded in that moment about possible incoming fire from Russia.
The wail of an air raid siren.
Air raid sirens wailing in the background.
Seemingly undeterred by an air raid siren.
Undeterred by the sound of air sirens.
President Biden's ability with his aviators on to walk through the broad daylight in Kiev.
The slagger of this trip.
Not just the execution, the secrecy, but the slagger of it on display on the streets of Kiev.
Oh man, the swagger!
The swagger of it!
The guy can barely walk.
And by the way, anybody who listens to any reasonable report on this said the air raid siren was fake.
Completely phony.
It hadn't been one for five days.
The minute he steps onto the streets, they let it go off.
If this was Trump, you would have heard the same a-holes that you just heard all talking about photo-op.
Yeah, we went in there for a photo op with a phony siren.
Exactly.
Now, it went even deeper.
Very respectful people here on CNN.
Doug Brinkley!
What did it remind you of, Doug?
As our resident historian here, place this in the context and the pantheon of presidential visits.
Place this in the context of the pantheon of presidential visits.
The war zones.
Presidents that visit Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years.
But those were U.S.
wars.
This is a Ukrainian war.
I love this.
Those are U.S.
wars.
This is Ukrainian.
We have nothing to do with this.
You have nothing to do with this?
There's no U.S.
soldiers involved anywhere.
No advisors, no training, nothing.
I mean, we're not in control of this area at all.
It's our weapons, but we're not in control.
No U.S.
military presence on the ground.
How significant?
It's extremely significant.
The United States is wedded more to the Ukraine than ever before.
I go back to history and think of Roosevelt and Churchill.
I love a guy who's a historian who says, the Ukraine.
That always makes me feel like the guy's a good historian.
To the Ukraine than ever before.
I go back to history and think of Roosevelt and Churchill when FDR had to sneak off in the dead of night, even had a body double at one point to first meet Winston Churchill off the coast of Newfoundland.
And then, of course, you had all those World War II meetings.
Newfoundland?
Newfoundland!
Even I would say Newfoundland, but Newfoundland...
Off the coast of Newfoundland, and then of course you had all those World War II meetings between Churchill.
It's worth, I mean, mentioning Churchill because Zelensky has been called the Churchill of our generation.
Biden going there today, I think it's going to be a moment for the history books.
It's like when John F. Kennedy went to Berlin.
It's the new Berlin!
and gave a speech at the height of the cold war ukraine is the new berlin it's the rally point for nato and the western allies and and i think biden did something really heroic it's the new berlin take down that wall it's gonna be something like well actually uh putin president putin had a He addressed the nation.
I guess he addressed his military and all the muckety-mucks.
He does that several times a year.
It was about an hour and a half, and there were a couple of translated versions.
I picked a clip from what I thought was a lady who did just a great job on translating.
I love her nuances.
We want to create conflict situations at our borders.
The same pattern all along in the whole 20th century.
It's to turn any form of action against Russia.
We are not waging war with the Ukrainians.
We know that they are in a hostage situation.
been politically and militarily occupied by the Westerners and the Ukrainian industry and natural riches were plundered and it's led to social degradation and it's really not difficult to see why military actions have to be launched.
It was all prepared.
The idea was to turn them into war victims and the responsibility of the Western elites, military elites, a lot of foreigners to the Ukrainian regimes.
They are not trying to support the interests of the Ukrainian people.
They are just using this as a butthead against us.
They want to take it lightly.
All right, so this is kind of the story we know, and it was interesting that Putin says, well, you know, they're in a hostage situation.
We have to go save them!
As if coordinated, former President Trump, clearly a puppet for Putin, from his new Trump Club 47, always a marketing man, said this.
World War III has never been closer than it is right now.
We need to clean house of all of the warmongers and America's last globalists in the deep state, the Pentagon, the State Department, and the National Security Industrial Complex.
One of the reasons I was the only president in generations who didn't start a war is that I was the only president who rejected the catastrophic advice of many of Washington's generals, bureaucrats, and the so-called diplomats Who only know how to get us into conflict, but they don't know how to get us out.
For decades, we've had the very same people such as Victoria Nuland and many others just like her obsessed with pushing Ukraine toward NATO.
Not to mention the State Department support for uprisings in Ukraine.
These people have been seeking confrontation for a long time, much like the case in Iraq and other parts of the world, and now we're teetering on the brink of World War III.
And a lot of people don't see it, but I see it, and I've been right about a lot of things.
They all say Trump's been right about everything.
All of them.
So, very interesting what he says there.
Let's take those two things together.
Deutsche Welle, because we have to go outside of our own borders to get any kind of media to deconstruct or that's even worth playing, because it's about Don Lamont.
Deutsche Welle did a report on where most of the Ukrainians fled to.
Now this was eye-opening, because I think it's 5 or 7 million people have fled Ukraine.
We know that many of them have gone to Europe.
But let's really find out where most people fled from Ukraine and where they went to.
The United Nations says that since the invasion, Last February, more than 8 million Ukrainians have left their homeland.
So, where are they now?
Let's take a look at the map.
It may surprise you.
Top of the list, believe it or not, Russia.
It has taken in 2.85 million Ukrainians.
That's the number that have crossed the border since last February.
After Russia, Poland.
It's a very supportive neighbor of Ukraine, which we've reported on numerous times.
It has seen an influx of more than 1.5 million Ukrainians in the past year.
And then right here in Germany, more than 1 million Ukrainians have arrived here since the war began.
The capital, Berlin, where we are, has registered more than 100,000 Ukrainians.
And then there is the Czech Republic.
Which has taken in, as you see right there, 500,000 Ukrainians.
They've sought refuge there.
That is the equivalent of about 5% of that country's population.
These are big numbers, big movements of people.
Yeah, who would have known almost 3 million went to Russia?
Because, you know, they hate Russia.
Well, you have to assume those are the Donbass people.
There's a lot of them.
There's a lot of them.
Which are Russians, basically.
There's a lot of Russians in Ukraine and a lot of Ukrainians in Russia.
I'm a little unclear about where we're sending all of these weapons.
Oh, but some of them are probably going to Somalia via Ukraine, and some of them are going to other parts of Africa via Ukraine, and I'm sure they... Who knows what's going on with the bullets?
I mean... They're supposed to be... I was listening to one report, oh, it's an artillery war!
That's what it is, artillery... What's the need for all these bullets?
I mean, this is France 24.
They're on the Eastern Front.
Surprising report.
We're just back from the Eastern Front line in this ongoing and intense conflict.
And the situation there remains very difficult indeed.
Our team was in the trenches alongside Ukrainian soldiers operating an artillery unit.
Their material dated from the 1970s from the Soviet Union.
How come they're using 1970s stuff?
Didn't we say this is the front line?
Right?
Yeah, the front line should have all our good stuff.
How come we're the 1970s style stuff?
And they say they're struggling to get enough ammunition for that.
They're worried about that as they head forward into spring and into the summer when they would hope to be Going on the offensive at the moment.
They're trying to hold the Ukrainian line in the face of waves and waves of Russian soldiers men advancing which they see with drone technology So that push very much underway they say and they are firing thousands of shells Every day to try and hold the line None of this makes sense.
No, what you just said, if you start to think about it, there's only one real front line, which is that where she was.
Yeah.
And so that's where all our stuff should be.
Where's our stuff?
As you said, in Africa.
Yeah, that's right.
It's already moving down.
I mean, the mercenaries, from what I understand, are already moving down to Africa, getting ready for the next confrontation.
There's some action going to take place in Africa.
Definitely.
Thank you, Joe Biden.
That's right, that's right.
Here's a couple of clips from, you made this comment earlier, you have to go out of the country to get any news.
Pretty much all my clips today are from China, some podcasts and NHK, a lot of NHK stuff.
Podcasts?
I hope we listen to them real fast.
I do, I always listen at 1.75.
Ooh, nice.
75.
Sexy.
Ooh, nice.
They all sound like Trini Lopez.
So, there's a reference nobody will get.
I got it, I got it.
Yeah, you would get it.
It's your job.
I'm old.
Ukraine, China, Kvetching, NHK.
China's foreign minister says certain country should stop fueling the fire in the Ukraine conflict.
Qinggang was apparently referring to the U.S. and its allies.
China is deeply worried that the conflict could spiral out of control.
Qin was speaking Tuesday in Beijing.
This comes after Washington issued its own warning to Beijing.
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Saturday told China's top diplomat Wang Yi that he's concerned Beijing may provide lethal support to Russia.
Beijing hit back by saying it's the US and not China that's been sending weapons to the battlefield in Ukraine.
Yeah, this is now a narrative that I'm hearing in the U.S.
media, in the Western media, is, oh, China!
So now they're, and that's exactly how they do it, oh, China!
They're, uh... By the way, this pronunciation of Beijing... Beijing is new for me.
I've never heard it before, but that's what they're calling it.
This reminds me of the Turkey-ay-ay-ay.
Turkey-ay?
Yeah.
Turkey-ay.
Let me, uh... Go ahead.
Maybe we're going to have to start calling it Beijing.
Beijing.
I like Beijing.
I left my chin in old Beijing.
Here's Meet the Press with Chip Chuck Chuck Todd Gregory with Antony Blinken bringing in the Chiners.
This concern that China is considering lethal, potential lethal aid in this war to Russia.
What evidence can you share with us that indicates your concern that they're going to escalate their help to Russia?
As you said, they've been helping them rhetorically.
They've been helping them maybe by buying cheap oil.
But what is the other evidence that you have here that they're thinking about doing more?
Well, Chuck, China's trying to have it both ways.
Publicly, they present themselves... China's gonna have it both ways.
They're smoking hot, these Chinese, man.
China's trying to have it both ways.
Publicly, they present themselves...
as a country striving for peace in Ukraine.
But privately, as I said, we've seen already over these past months the provision of non-lethal assistance that does go directly to aiding and abetting Russia's war effort and that indicates that they are strongly considering providing lethal assistance we've seen already over these past months the provision of non-lethal assistance What a bullshit answer.
Well, you know, strongly indicating it.
Can you maybe explain how?
This concern that China is considering lethal, potential lethal aid in this war to Russia.
What evidence can you share with us?
Wait, is that the same clip I just played?
Sounds the same.
Is it?
Is it?
Thus?
Hold on.
Is that the same one I just played?
Hold on a second.
52.
52.
What's this one?
52 what's this one?
50 52 this concern that publicly they present It's the same clip.
Sorry about that.
Anyway, there you go.
They have no proof.
He's just saying it.
They're considering putting a lethal aid.
Mark my words.
I'm Abe Lincoln.
We're doing lethal aid?
Yes.
Yes.
Now the United Nations They don't want this.
The United Nations is figuring out that the U.S., I would have to say, we are bad actors here, and that we have effectively cut off Europe's supply of energy for Germany to create stuff.
They're getting too big for their britches.
Yes, we are!
No, not us.
Germany was.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it depends on what we have to do.
Is make it a little more difficult, or at least get a piece of the action.
Well, we didn't get a piece of the action, we blowed it all up.
And now the United Nations is trying to figure out how we can bring peace.
The language of the new resolution is one of urgency.
It is also carefully formulated in general terms, aiming to garner as much support as possible.
The text, drafted by Ukraine with help from allies, underscores the urgency to find a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.
It also demands a cessation of hostilities, not a ceasefire.
And an unconditional and complete withdrawal of Russian forces from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders, including the four regions unilaterally annexed by Russia last year.
But it makes no direct reference to President Volodymyr Zelensky's ten-point peace plan presented at the G20 summit in November.
The aim is to make it more difficult not to back the text.
Two previous resolutions over the past year were adopted with an overwhelming majority.
However, Russia did find support from its friends and allies.
The first one in March, condemning Russia's invasion and demanding an immediate end to its military operations, saw five countries voting against.
Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea and Syria.
35 others abstained, mostly in Asia and Africa.
A second resolution, adopted in the wake of Russia's illegal annexation of four regions in eastern Ukraine, again saw five votes against and 35 abstentions.
This time, Eritrea abstained instead of voting no, while Nicaragua joined the no camp.
Once again, a majority of abstentions came from Africa, where many countries rely on Russian grain exports.
Alongside China and India, two big buyers of Russian oil.
Turkey, meanwhile, approved both resolutions.
This week, 191 members are eligible to vote, with Lebanon and Venezuela temporarily suspended due to arrears in the payment of their financial contributions.
I didn't know that if you didn't pay your dues you don't get to vote.
I mean, it sounds fair, but hello?
That's kind of odd.
How much in arrears are they?
Well, these votes are useless.
Yeah, but they're sending messages.
People, they don't want it.
They don't really want it.
Friends 24.
You're getting so much...
The reporting, slanted or not, at least they're reporting kind of on it instead of these, you know, hijack-y, clickbait-y headlines from the US media.
And this is France 24, you know, as Biden is promising a lot now.
He's got a lot of money being promised and I love this reporter's gaffe.
We just heard there from David that Joe Biden is now heading to Poland.
What do we expect from his trip there?
A few things.
A little overlooked.
Poland is hoping that this visit from Joe Biden will...
Don't eat me, Bo-Giden, you're scary, so scary!
She said Bo-Giden!
Thank you, thank you.
No agenda show creeping into her nervous system.
...is hoping that this visit from Joe Biden will underline that the US is 100% behind Poland and that eastern flank of NATO because it really matters for investors in Poland who are starting to get cold feet about investing in Poland.
We're gonna be rebuilding!
...a straightforward The image of Joe Biden saying we pledge whatever it takes for Ukraine.
And that strong image is very important to Poland.
Beyond that, the Polish are keen to try to persuade Biden to push this idea of some sort of partnership, guaranteeing security for Ukraine after the war.
Now NATO membership itself is of course much more complicated.
The Polish have in mind something along the lines of the partnership between the US and Israel.
Where there is a commitment to stand by Israel.
And so they're pushing that idea.
Like in Israel?
That's an interesting analogy.
Make it like Israel.
I thought that was like, what?
That's kind of... It's funny, did Poland suggest that?
Because Poland and Israel are at odds.
I would say.
Some historical stuff.
No, they are.
I mean, this is the reason you can't get a visa to back and forth to Poland.
It used to be wide open, you didn't need a visa, but they've locked that down and it has a lot to do with the Israeli lobby.
They're still pissed at Poland for World War II.
Well, if you'll remember, everyone's all lovey-dovey right now with Poland, but there were entire Senate meetings over sanctioning Poland because they hadn't apologized!
Remember that?
Yeah, vaguely.
Before we get into that, let's play this one.
This is another little aspect.
It's another dimension of this war, which is now the START Treaty.
So we're all going to start.
This is good news for you guys who are building these expensive bombs.
START Treaty.
This is an interesting clip because it's NHK again, and they go from one topic to another very seamlessly.
Russia's parliament approved the suspension of the remaining nuclear arms control treaty it had signed with the United States.
Putin had announced on Tuesday Moscow was halting its participation in the New START treaty.
It is Western nations that started the war.
We are using our force to stop it.
Western leaders rejected Putin's claims.
Nobody is attacking Russia.
Russia is the aggressor.
Ukraine is the victim of aggression.
Ukraine will never be a victory for Russia.
Our support for Ukraine will not waver.
Both sides are digging in their heels as the war continues and causes more and more casualties.
Putin spoke at a rally in Moscow, stayed in a Moscow stadium, and called for national unity.
Russian media reports say about 200,000 government supporters attended the rally.
I like the way they phrased that one.
That's a good little deconstruction there.
So Putin did a Trump-like rally in a stadium and he got 200,000 people to show up.
Yeah, they forced him at gunpoint, obviously.
So they make it sound, they call it government supporters, not Putin supporters, or just... Yeah, that is a good phrasing, isn't it?
Russians who want to see the guy, because he's not, you know, normally, you don't see him that often.
But it was a Modi side.
Modi could get these kind of crowds.
Modi got huge crowds, yeah.
When Trump visited Modi in India, he said, oh man, I wish I could get crowds like this.
Well, Putin can!
Yeah.
And they downplay it as government support, just a bunch of people giving the day off, I guess, and they've got to go to this stadium.
Now, one of the countries in the EU that is trying to avoid getting wrapped up in all of this is Hungary.
Hungary has been the very ugly stepchild of the EU, rejecting vaccine mandates, rejecting the, I think even the Pfizer contract of immigrants, literally saying we want to keep our country with our Christian, or what do they say, their Christian values, I'm not quite sure exactly what the phrase, something like that.
It's about that.
Yeah, it's about they don't want Muslim immigrants, and what they say, they're not immigrants.
If you want to immigrate into our country, there's ways to do it.
Just walking across the border, you're not an immigrant.
You know, the kind of stuff you might say about a sovereign country.
Which is rare.
Yes, and so the problem, they're a problem.
And I want you to pay close attention.
Slow it down to one time speed, everybody.
You're going to need to hear it in real time so you can hear the nuance of evil.
This is Samantha Power.
As USAID Administrator, I have the chance to travel all around the world to engage with people who are working every day to strengthen democratic institutions, to build independent media, and to promote and protect human rights.
I'm here in Hungary, one of the countries in Central Europe where USAID has recently relaunched programming to tackle just these challenges.
I'm going to spend the next couple days engaging with Hungarians about their vision for a brighter future.
Regime change incoming.
Color revolution.
Oh, USAID's gone in there?
Is that what she said?
She's now the administrator of USAID.
That's the jackals that will be in the book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, which new listeners don't know we went on, we were pushing this book for a long time.
It's a good book to read.
The original, the original, not until I got to him.
The second one is not as good.
It talks about how this works and USAID is a big part of it.
Well, here's my favorite little snippet in here.
Travel all around the world to engage with people who are working every day to strengthen democratic institutions, to build independent media.
To build independent media.
That's the key.
That's the key right there.
That's the one.
U.S.
propaganda sources.
I hate to be so anti-U.S., but holy crap, we are dicks in this.
Well, some of these people are the problem.
It's not the U.S.
itself.
Oh, thank you.
That makes me feel better.
It's these people.
Those people.
That woman specifically.
It's that woman specifically.
Noodleman is the other one.
Oh, man, yeah.
And you know, I went around looking because I keep hearing or keep reading, you know, well, Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire!
And you go looking for a source, and the only people who say this are Ukrainians.
That's all I get.
It's like, when did Putin say he wants to rebuild the Russian Empire or the Soviet Empire?
And you always get back, according to a Ukrainian official.
Or, you know, or an American official.
But I've not actually... If someone could send it to me, I'd love to have it.
I'd love to have a clip or anything, or even a written statement I'll accept, of Putin saying he wants to restore the Russian Empire back to its imperial glory.
I mean, as far as I can tell, that's just a lie.
Surprise?
It's an extrapolation of some things he said.
Oh.
He said, you know, it was the glory days or something.
He made some references.
He never said he wanted to rebuild it.
It was good times back then.
But you just extrapolate from it.
Well, if he said that, then he means this.
I don't know.
That's our boys at work.
Yeah, well, our boys do a good job, but they should just propagandize other people.
Stop doing it to us.
I do have something on this, let me see, on the START Treaty from, actually let's just play these two clips here we have, this is a CBS Evening News, Ed O'Keefe, Biden reassuring NATO.
President Biden today sought to assure the easternmost members of NATO that the U.S.
would stand with them in the event of a Russian invasion.
You're the front lines of our collective defense, and you know better than anyone what's at stake in this conflict.
Not just for Ukraine, but for the freedom of democracies throughout Europe and around the world.
The meeting kept a trip that began in dramatic fashion in Kiev, designed to reiterate American support for Ukraine.
But it ended as a barrage of Russian missiles hit the northeastern city of Kharkiv, the war raging on.
In Moscow, President Vladimir Putin rallied a large, flag-waving crowd, praising the courageous Russian soldiers and making no mention of mounting casualties.
Why didn't he say government workers?
Putin also held talks with China's top envoy, Wang Yi.
U.S.
officials voiced concern this week the Chinese could supply lethal military aid to the Russian army.
We've made very clear to them that that would cause a serious problem for us.
This thing is sweetened beautifully.
I mean, you don't need to see video with this report.
Very clear to them that that would cause a serious problem for us.
Both countries flexed their military might today in drills off the South African coast.
U.S.
officials criticized Putin's decision Tuesday to suspend participation in the last remaining nuclear arms treaty between the two countries.
Asked about it today, President Biden had this to say.
I can't even understand what he said on that report.
Big mistake.
Oh, big mistake.
Well, there's a continuation about the START Treaty.
That arms treaty caps the number of nuclear warheads the U.S.
and Russia can have and allows for mutual inspection of each other's programs.
But the inspections were stopped during the pandemic, so suspending them further would mean the U.S.
would know even less about Russia's nuclear capabilities and intentions.
And intentions.
And intentions.
Why don't they recite it?
We're the ones who cut the deal off.
It wasn't him.
It wasn't Putin.
And it was suspended.
Not done, not, you know, not ended.
It's suspended.
We're not talking to Putin until he gets out of Ukraine.
That's right.
That's right.
Well, I don't have any more on Ukraine.
The only thing I have is one of our Dutch producers, Jan Willem, he did a pretty good breakdown of Eurojust.
The Eurojust, this is what Queen Ursula has put together to, I guess to convict Putin.
And it's really just a desk somewhere within the joint investigation team, but you know, it's a statement here from Ursula.
Russia must be held accountable in courts for its odious crimes.
Prosecutors from Ukraine and the European Union are already working together.
We are collecting evidence.
As a first step, I am pleased to announce that an International Center for the Prosecution of the Crime of Aggression, which is new, which is also is the ICPC, Okay, so it's a new thing we can sign on to.
The crime of aggression?
Yes, the International Center for the Prosecution of the Crime of Aggression.
Aggression is a crime.
Do you think shock and awe during the Bush administration may qualify?
Well, you can't do that after the fact.
Well, yeah, you can.
They can.
They've been promising to do it after the fact.
This will be set up in The Hague, of course.
The center will coordinate the collection of evidence.
It will be embedded in the joint investigation team, which is supported by our agency, Eurojust.
Which is the new EU police force.
It's coming, people.
We'll be ready to launch work very rapidly with Eurojust, with Ukraine, with the partners of our joint investigation team, as well as the Netherlands!
Yes, the perpetrator must be held accountable.
And through all this, this is almost like a Dutch or an EU Patriot Act.
You're gonna get police, secret police, you know, for crimes of aggression.
They come after anybody.
It's all so obvious.
In my mind.
Well, they've been working on this for a while.
For a long time.
Yeah.
Remember the health rules they were going to get where they could shoot you if you refused to get a vaccination or something?
What was some law in the past?
No, no.
It's in the protocols of the Lisbon Treaty and it's two separate things.
One is you can be arrested if you have a communicable disease anywhere in the EU.
And the second, if you are running away from law enforcement and they shoot you in the back, it's legal.
It's a legal kill.
Right, that was it.
Running?
That's not good.
Got a note from one of our producers about some of the influx of Ukrainian refugees.
Our producer lives in Croatia.
Ukrainians increased rental prices in Zagreb to about twice to what they were.
Here's how it works.
They post an ad on Facebook.
Quote, women with two kids looking for an apartment in Zagreb.
Two bedrooms, 800 euros.
Next day, all two bedroom apartments are 800 euros and more.
Which is about the amount of money that the state is giving to these refugees.
800 euros.
So now, you know, the rent has doubled everywhere because of this, of what, how this has been handled.
He says Tinder is also flooded, which I'm not quite sure what he meant by that.
What did he say?
Tinder is also flooded.
I guess... Oh, Tinder.
I guess... It's Ukrainian women!
What did he expect?
Exactly.
I think that's what he's, what he's alluding to.
That's what he's implying, but he just wouldn't say it.
No, but this is, this is a disaster.
It's a disaster.
Well, kind of on the same line of thinking.
Let's play this clip.
This is from NHK, too.
This is Russia-China becoming pals.
Diplomatic movements are heating up ahead of the first anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin held talks with... Is this Ben Shapiro's side gig?
Side hustle?
This is great!
This is Shapiro!
Slow down!
No?
I'm going to have to listen.
I know who this guy is and I've seen him.
Close your eyes.
I'm not thinking of anybody else, but now that you mention it, it's possible.
Close your eyes.
Close your eyes and hear Ben Shapiro.
Diplomatic movements are heating up ahead of the first anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin held talks Wednesday with China's top diplomat, Wang Yi.
Russian-Chinese relations are developing just as we planned in previous years.
Everything is moving forward, developing, and we are reaching new milestones.
Putin said he expects trade between their countries to reach $200 billion by 2024.
He also said he's waiting for Chinese President Xi Jinping to visit Moscow for a summit as planned.
Wang replied relations between their nations are mature, resilient, and stable.
We would like to emphasize once again that the comprehensive strategic partnership between Russia and China has never been directed against a third party and is certainly not subjected to interference and provocation by any third party.
So what does this all mean?
Well, you know, I was thinking about this.
Russia and China have been butt up against each other forever.
Yeah, they share a border.
Yeah, they share a huge border.
And the Russians were attacked by the Mongols back in the day and they've always had, you know, there's always been these disputes and there's always been the fear, you know, during the Nixon-Kissinger thing where they reopened China.
Thank you for that.
There was always this fear that they're coming to join.
Hey, you got a cheap mic because of that, okay?
So be thankful.
This is the American mic.
The PR-40 is built in the United States.
Do you have a cheap Chinese cradle?
I do have a cheap Chinese cradle and it works great.
Okay.
And you should be thankful too because you don't hear me banging the thing all the time.
Well, you said thanks for that.
Oh, you were sincere.
I'm sorry.
I got it.
And so, yes, I was sincere.
It's a nice product.
And it's cheap.
Very cheap.
It's like everything else.
It'll break.
Best price.
It'll break.
Best price.
No, it'll break.
The problem is, like all this stuff, it'll break.
So when Nixon and Kissinger put this thing together, there was this fear that because of the commonality of communism, that Russia and China would join up forces and be the dominant factor in the world.
But their history goes back.
If these guys were ever going to get along, they would have got along by now.
China and Russia, there's something about those two cultures.
It's just obvious that they don't really, you know, a lot of people don't like different kinds of people for whatever reason.
But these two, they don't like each other at some base level.
And yeah, they'll trade and you can run a train through the country if you want.
But there's something wrong with that relationship.
And Russia really wants to be more European, but we won't let them.
No.
No, because how handy is this right now?
I was just going to say we use Russia to get the Green Deal, that's what it's called in Europe, to push the hydrogen economy, to make China look bad.
Yeah, we use Russia as a foil.
They are the perfect foil.
And I am amazed, quite frankly, considering the international terrorist act of sabotage on their pipelines.
At the restraints Russia has shown.
Yeah, they had to know what happened.
Well, they've now called the UN Security Committee and said, hey, we want an investigation.
Council.
Council, thank you.
We want an investigation on this.
We want to know what happened.
Good luck with that.
Yeah, well, it's not going to go, but at least they're making a fuss.
But yeah, the Russians and the, so I think that we've already planned for the fact that the Russians and the Chinese, we must, our top guys have to know this, that the Russians and the Chinese aren't, yeah, even the Chinese don't even want to give them bullets.
I mean, we heard that they're getting some armaments and bullets from North Korea, the Russians.
Yeah, oh, and I think that's probably Part of the game is, hey, tell Kim Jong-un to shoot some shit over there.
There could be.
Of course.
Of course.
All of a sudden this happens.
It was interesting, Megyn Kelly, because Tina listens to Megyn Kelly, and she said, you know, there's this woman on who's from North Korea, and it was horrible, you know, with her story, and she was trafficked to China.
And I said, you know, this may all be, when this happened like 15 years ago, when she was 12 or whatever, I said, the story may be true.
In fact, a lot of it's likely very true.
But the reason that it's be pushed now, there's all, there's reasons for this.
These, you know, she has a book out.
Okay.
So why all of a sudden is a book about, you know, the horrible life in North Korea coming out?
Isn't that directly related to China bad?
I mean, isn't this all part of this information war that's taking place?
Which brings me to a slew of clips.
Hey now!
I set you up perfectly!
Let's listen to these clips.
This is Japan and China.
This is, by the way, what's going on in Asia, which nobody's paying any attention to over here, but there's all kinds of action.
In fact, I put together a VPN lash-up so I could get TV New Zealand.
A VPN lash-up?
Is this like a Rube Goldberg machine?
You go from one VPN through a second one?
Well, when I tried to get to New Zealand TV, they were real strict about who could look at their television.
And so I wormed my way in with a VPN lash-up.
They had a real bad storm there.
Yes, that was Gabriel.
In fact, they have a clip on that if you wanted to skip around.
But no, let's play this.
Japan and China News 1.
Top officials from Japan and China say their countries need to work together to tackle some difficult issues.
These were the first security talks in four years, and came amid growing tensions over Taiwan and accusations of espionage.
The senior foreign affairs and defense officials showed signs of disagreement, locking horns on several key issues.
Yamada Shigeo broached the topic of spy balloons.
The senior deputy minister for foreign affairs says Japan strongly suspects China flew them within its airspace.
China has shown the spotlight on Japan's recent moves to boost defensive capabilities, which Beijing casts as a military build-up.
To be honest, China has serious concerns over Japan's release of its new defense and security documents, its collusion with foreign forces, and the negative moves such as its involvement in the Taiwan issue.
Still, the two agree on the need to keep an open dialogue to avoid any unintended escalation and decided to create a new hotline.
There is a common understanding between the two countries' leaders of the need to build constructive and stable Japan-China relations.
You could have labeled this section of the show as hot Asian action!
Japan and China News Part 2.
China's Vice Minister also met with Japanese Foreign Minister Hayashi Yoshimasa during his visit to Tokyo.
Hayashi likewise emphasized the need to allow both sides to air concerns and work through disputes.
The trip was also an opportunity for China to remind Tokyo of its importance as Japan moves to strengthen ties with Beijing's rival, the United States.
Well, the United States.
And now we have this clip, which is USA.
It's Beijing.
What?
Beijing.
It's not Beijing.
It's Beijing.
We all know this.
Beijing.
They gotta get it together over there.
Yes, the Philippines.
That's kind of a problem that we've moved in there, I would presume.
Well, here we go.
The United States has reaffirmed its commitment to the defense of the Philippines.
It follows a flare-up of tensions in the South China Sea after Manila accused a Chinese ship of pointing a laser at one of its ships.
Laser?
U.S.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke with his Philippine counterpart Carlito Galvez by phone.
Was it a laser pointer?
Like one of those deals?
I think it was some sort of a weapon.
Like, oh, directed energy weapon from space?
No!
Austin said an attack on a Philippine vessel anywhere in the South China Sea would invoke the US mutual defense commitment under a treaty between their countries.
The Philippine Coast Guard says a Chinese government ship directed a military-grade laser at its patrol vessel earlier this month Near the Spratly Islands.
Beijing claims the ship did not direct lasers at the crew or cause any damage.
It says the Chinese ship was compelled to respond because the Philippine vessel entered Chinese waters without permission.
Austin agreed with Galvez the incident took place inside the Philippines exclusive economic zone.
They discuss joint patrols in the South China Sea and further cooperation with like-minded nations like Japan that want a free and open Indo-Pacific.
Manila aims to expand its security cooperation with other countries as well.
It's muddling joint patrols with Australia in the South China Sea.
I get a real strong Gulf of Tonkin vibe from what's going on here.
There's something going on, and it's active, and it's real active, and listen, I'll just play two more clips.
This is USA-Taiwan meetings.
Now, senior officials from Taiwan... This guy is working on my nerves, though.
Yeah, okay, we're gonna go leave him.
We're gonna go to someone worse.
Let's play him first, it's only 50 seconds, I can handle it.
Now, senior officials from Taiwan have made a rare visit to the U.S.
Capital Region, apparently the latest in a series of... U.S.
Capital Region?
Does he mean Washington?
Is that Washington D.C.
or something?
Around the same time, U.S.
D.C. or something?
say for about seven hours, the officials discussed diplomacy and security.
It comes days after sources told U.S. media the Pentagon's top China official went to Taiwan.
The U.S. and Taiwan have not had formal diplomatic ties for decades and neither has confirmed any official meetings.
You know what I appreciate?
This was not a meeting.
No, but what I appreciate about NHK, and they may also be based in Washington, D.C., for all I know.
They may be, but these reports are out of Japan.
I mean, when you listen to Deutsche Welle and France 24, it's like you've got Brits on France 24, you've got Americans on Deutsche Welle.
Like, I want to hear Deutsche accents on Deutsche Welle and France accents on France 24.
And TRT, I want to hear some Turkeye accents.
You know what I mean?
I know what you mean, exactly.
It kind of annoys me.
It's like, are you all spooks?
Especially France 24, where they pride themselves on bringing British-accented... Yeah, spooks.
...good English speakers.
Yeah, spooks.
It's gotta be spooks.
Oh, it's totally spooks.
Well, let's listen to this.
This is the last China thing.
Now, this is a baffling clip, because I can't understand a word they say, because this is one of my clips from New Zealand, TVNZ Channel 1.
And it's like about the Chinese and all this island hopping.
They're trying to take over a bunch of islands.
This is a story that's hard to tell.
60 Minutes Australia has probably done the best job of revealing much of what's going on there.
We don't even know it.
We're just... I don't know what... We're in the dark!
We're in the dark.
So what am I playing here?
Baffling Clip.
Oh, top.
Members of the Pacific Islands Forum are meeting in Fiji this week for a much-needed special retreat.
Tensions are running high as security in the region becomes more fragile with a number of nations, including Kiribati, forming close relations with China.
Kiribati has returned to the Forum table this year, bringing renewed hope leaders will be able to patch up their differences.
It was all sort of sorted out and Kiribati has come back to this meeting.
So this meeting is to really make sure that Kiribati does stay within the forum family for security reasons and as well as they really need to be at the table when discussing big regional issues.
Climate change will also be high on the agenda with many Pacific countries already experiencing destruction due to extreme weather events.
Huh?
Yeah.
Very odd.
I'm telling you, I'm gonna try to get some more clips from this New Zealand operation because their accent is hard to hear.
Yes, I would say.
They have a lot of idiosyncratic ways of pronunciation.
Australians are You know, the shrimp on the barbie, you can kind of follow what they have to say, but these New Zealanders, and they do call themselves Kiwis, are very difficult to understand.
I did okay there until they pulled the rug and took me to climate change.
Then they jumped to climate change.
Did you see, and this is one of those baffling things, just going back to China.
The Aerospace Intelligence Twitter account, SpaceOSint, whatever that is, posts a selfie of one of our, of the U-2 Dragon Lady pilot, I don't know if that means the U-2 is titled the Dragon Lady and it's the pilot, or if the lady, if the pilot is a Dragon Lady, I don't know, circling above the Chinese spy balloon.
Yes, the NHK website had a lot of photos of it.
Very confusing, very confusing to me.
I mean, first of all, why are you shooting a selfie on your phone when you are actually in a high-tech, sophisticated surveillance aircraft that has the best cameras?
How insulting to give us a selfie?
And I want to ask some of our experts out there, why are we still flying the U-2?
And I thought this SR-70 was benched.
The XR-71 or whatever it was?
Yeah, the 70.
I think it's a 70.
But the U-2 is an old predated plane.
That's a plane from the 50s, I think, but it's a high altitude plane.
I think it's still in service, but why is it still in service?
And then I understand there's a third plane that nobody's talking about that's really the plane they're flying.
So this was 70,000 feet and this balloon was at 60,000 feet?
Yeah.
Very interesting.
Sounds right.
None of it sounds right to me, I'll be honest.
I mean, the numbers sound right.
Doesn't it?
But, you know, when you listen to these clips, when you look at the whole world of selfies and tweets and, I mean, aren't we just living... The selfie, something's wrong with that.
Yeah, aren't we just living in the matrix already?
I mean, you could just believe whatever you want to believe because you'll find something that's true for you.
You know, I don't know what Zuckerberg is building.
We don't need the glasses, Mark.
It's already, okay, like Project Veritas.
I want to talk about Project Veritas for a moment.
I have nothing on this.
Well, I don't have some thoughts and I've gotten letters and yes well also but so we saw the I think everyone saw the James O'Keefe video which was done on Monday President's Day so no one was at the office except there were some people at the office and he was gathering his things and and from there on out it was like okay he has He has resigned.
And then there's all kinds of documents and the board comes out with a memo saying that he was cruel to employees and that, you know, there's a question of misappropriating donor funds.
$17,000 for a charter jet?
What is this, a 30-minute flight?
What kind of chartered jet can you get for $17,000?
You're not going very far.
You think it is shared?
I'm sorry?
Shared.
No, no.
You're not getting very far for that kind of money.
No, but if it's shared with 10 other people.
No, then he paid, then he overpaid.
You know, $150,000 in black cars, which I presume is Uber X or something.
And the whole thing is just really like, everything's very, very weird.
And I've done a dive into some things, including their 2021 Form 990 filing, and 2020 and 2019.
And I've learned a few things, and there's some things coming out, and maybe we can make some sense of what's happening.
First of all, I wanted to mention that James O'Keefe says several times in his video that nothing had changed with the way Project Veritas was doing business until they did the big Pfizer takedown.
Which, um, let's just stop for a second.
We have watched Veritas, Project Veritas, and what they've done since, really since the days of Acorn, which is, you know, when it was really just O'Keefe, you know, getting undercover video himself during Obama's days.
Yep.
And I would say we have used very little of their material because it was patently unusable for audio.
Unusable.
And we were actually quite happy when we could assist and help them get their audio cleaned up.
We suggested a couple people they could use.
Once we stepped into the picture, all hell broke loose.
Exactly!
None to do with Pfizer.
Once John and I started helping to advise the executive director, it all went to shit.
Curry and Dvorak Consulting Group broke it.
Now, so the first thing is we have to go back to our own producer, our baron I believe, who became the executive director of Veritas just six weeks ago maybe.
By itself interesting that that happened.
And he's an ex-Wall Street guy, but hadn't been in Wall Street for several years from what I understand.
And he's being excoriated on No Agenda Social by five or six people.
And I think rightly so.
Blaming him, I don't know.
Well, no, because his note was very clear.
The board loves James.
It's going to be okay.
He's not been fired.
And then, you know, James O'Keefe.
And again, I see people who I love and respect going off the deep end.
Maybe they listened to James O'Keefe in two-time speed saying, O'Keefe brought the receipts!
No, he actually didn't bring any receipts.
He just told us what he believed was going on and what he felt and his side of the story.
So, I did receive a follow-up email this morning from our producer, who is the executive director of both of the non-profits.
And I'm going to share it with him, with you, what he wrote, because we've been sharing all of his stuff.
He didn't say, don't share this.
And we're going to get more.
ITM, I've been on the phone non-stop.
He had a family tragedy on Monday, which I'm very sorry for.
He says, it was the worst day of my life.
I'll try to get you a better update for Sunday.
My brain is mush.
Our journalists and the rest of the team are dedicated to getting stories while the board and James work things out.
Again, he's not fired, not ousted, not removed, did not resign.
Many of the things that were said in that video are not true.
I was not there as it was a holiday and HQ was closed so I worked from my home office.
I kind of wish I could have been there because I could have interjected the truth a few times.
More to come.
Okay.
So he is doubling down on what he told us.
That's an interesting development as far as I'm concerned.
So here's what I've learned.
It definitely extends the story.
It does.
So I've looked through all the leaked memos and all the different things and read everything that the board had to say, but it was really the 990 that interested me the most.
And I've become quite an expert at reading form 990s throughout the course of 15 years or more doing this show.
I learned a lot about it from the keeper who used to work exclusively in the nonprofit arena as a chief communications officer.
So she understands a lot of how this works and how it functions.
And the nine nineties, you can glean a lot.
Mainly the top line thing that's interesting is how much money did they bring in and what did it go towards?
These are the things that are always interesting.
And of course, one of the reasons, well, when you have a nonprofit, you have a lot of reporting responsibility.
You have to stay within certain guidelines legally to remain a tax-exempt non-profit.
So, unless someone's really faking numbers and lying, then I'm going to take this as true because it was filed with the IRS.
And more on the IRS in a moment.
So what is very interesting is James O'Keefe talks about specifically that plane trip which the board or according to the board letter which and our executive director is not a member of the board that's very important to understand there are there were three board members on the the 50C3 and I think two on the on the C4 and But the, and O'Keefe being one of the three board members of the 50C3, so it's really two people.
There's this one guy who may have been an early donor, big petrol guy, and then Matthew Tiermand, whose LinkedIn is like Ministry of Silly Walks, you know, so this guy is suspect to me, I'm not quite sure.
I mean, you can delve deep into his history, but whatever's going on, They accused O'Keefe of using the plane to fix his boat.
And O'Keefe said very clearly, I had three donor meetings in three different cities in one day.
I'm going to believe that.
Because when you're raising $20 million a year for Project Veritas, as he said, I'm on the road 300 days a year raising money to keep you guys paid.
He said that in his video.
Looking at all the projects that Veritas has done, and we've followed most of them, I would say 90%, even some of the COVID stuff, was all politically oriented.
It was, you know, certainly it would be a wealthy right-wing conservative donor who would appreciate the work that Veritas does because It makes the left, usually left-leaning media, left-leaning politicians, look stupid, and exposes them for what they're doing.
Go all the way back to Acorn, which was a valid hit on President Obama.
So, when you're doing this, you're raising money, not just from people, and a lot of people, I may have supported Project Veritas at one time, like, oh, here's 20 bucks, yeah, good job, I love that you're doing this.
But to see a spike in 2020, 10% more, almost $23 million, a lot of money to raise.
So yeah, if you're James O'Keefe, you're running around, you're doing meetings, you're getting money, it's a lot of $100,000 checks.
A lot.
And I think we're learning, looking at alternative media in general, as we've learned from The Blaze, we look at the Crowder and Daily, you know, what's his face, Daily Wire, Shapiro connection, big money there, you know, what Crowder would call big conservative.
There's a lot of money and a lot of influence and I think we're starting to understand that a lot of this was being used really, ultimately, for political gain.
And when you do something that goes outside of that and you expose... I mean it was a bad look for Pfizer.
It was of course I think handled properly and this is probably part of it to suppress that story.
You're stepping on big toes.
Pfizer, Big Pharma, probably one of the most powerful organizations in the world.
Yeah, compared to Acorn.
Yes, exactly.
And you may have stepped on some donor's toes.
And at a certain point, the donors are driving the train, as Tina would say.
So that shit had to stop.
And the way to decide to do it is to blow up Project Veritas.
And I think this one board member may have something to do with it.
And just this morning, it appears that the IRS might have been harassing board members With some threats of God knows what.
And that could have also played right into, you know, a weak board member that might be this Matthew Terman guy.
Who then says, oh, we got to get rid of O'Keefe.
We got to blame it all on him.
We want to continue because it is a good business.
I mean, it seems like they weren't out of money.
You're bringing 20 million plus in.
Now, the reason why it's a good business, the reason why it's a very difficult business is a O'Keefe is now a known figure so he can't do undercover stuff himself so he has to get people to do this and a lot of people don't want to do honey pot you know it's it's tough and and especially if it's a media business it's a it's a covert media business so you know People are going to be curt and short with you in the production arena.
This is just what it is.
It's no different from television or, you know, I bet NBC to, you know, what is it, to catch a predator?
I bet there's a lot of crap going on with that crew as well.
Yeah, well, that shows off the era.
But you know what I mean.
And there's also a lot of noodle boys and noodle girls these days.
So this whole memo about, oh, he was mean, he ate a pregnant lady's sandwich, you know, whatever he did.
OK.
However, here's the problem.
This blow up is such a magnitude.
That the whole world is on O'Keefe's side.
Everyone sees that O'Keefe is being railroaded.
Regardless of how it worked internally, that's what they're seeing, and I can't fault anyone for it, and I don't even think O'Keefe is at fault.
This is just how it goes.
The problem is, to get an organization, for O'Keefe to get an organization like this back up and running, do you know what they spend in legal fees?
Almost five million dollars a year!
Because you need that.
You need that type of legal assistance when you're doing this kind of stuff.
And I think that, you know, the Pfizer thing, for whatever reason, that was the... someone stepped over the line.
And the whole thing had to be blown up.
And I wonder if it's possible to put those pieces back together again.
What are your thoughts?
I like that analysis.
I've always been suspicious there even though they all in denial about the Pfizer thing.
But they don't know what's going on.
You're right about behind the scenes, and the IRS is political when Democrats are in power, and I think it is probably so when the Republicans are in too.
But the Democrat political machine gets involved with the IRS, and they have the head of the IRS, who's appointed, I think, by the president, and then approved by a rubber stamp, let's say.
I shouldn't use the word approved when I should say rubber-stamped by the Congress or Senate.
And they are political.
It was shown during the Obama administration when this Lois Lerner, who clearly violated all the edicts that she was, you know, have to follow, and she never did, and she never got in trouble for it, which makes it even easier for the next guy to come along and say, look what Lois did.
You're not even getting close to that.
And so, yes, and I believe this.
I think that the thesis that the IRS is putting pressure via the Biden administration or via Pfizer.
Yeah.
And here's Pfizer's got a lot of important people that are on its board.
It's got a lot of investors that expect to make money.
Oh, yeah.
And they put a little pressure this way or that way.
And, yeah, it wouldn't take much to get somebody to fold or to get panicky.
And I think the mistake that was made, which to me is just, I don't understand why did Project Veritas ever decide to be a non-profit?
This is baffling to me.
Oh, that's a great point.
I mean, there are a lot of people have said to us, why don't you do a non-profit?
Because that's the quickest way for the government to shut us down.
That's literally our answer.
But the reason we decided initially is because when we had JC in our back office, he did a lot of research on, he got us all kinds of research on this and that, and he found a study that showed that non-profits in our space do less well.
Space?
In our space?
I said that.
Take those words back!
And non-profits doing what we do get less donations.
Of course that would be our decision.
Hey man, we're going to get less money if we do a non-profit bad idea.
That was the real rationale.
It turns out, and I was thinking about this every once in a while when I see Amy Goodman or somebody going on and on about there being a non-profit, I'm thinking, well, they obviously don't have to make money, thus they do the non-profit, and it's like, something about it turns you off in so far as donating, as opposed to Guys like us, we're not, we're for-profit, but we pay the IRS, we pay our taxes.
We do.
We do.
And it just seems to at least get some sympathy to the donating class, saying, you know, these poor guys, you know, they got to pay taxes like everybody else, even though you also have to pay tax like anybody else if you're a non-profit.
But being a non-profit is a bad idea.
And one of the things that Wait, let me take that back so we get the complete thought out.
It's a bad idea unless you have one huge or two monstrous donors that need you to be in a non-profit status so they can take it off their taxes, but you're going to get a ton of money from those two guys.
Which is not any way, we can't do that.
No, and this is why we chose or we developed really the value for value model is, you know, people can get pissed off but, you know, five, ten people, it'll hurt but it's not going to end us.
You know, we don't have a single source, we don't have a single sugar daddy who's out there, you know, like some Texas oil guys, Jews for Jesus guys, that's who's funding, who funds Daily Wire.
I know the blaze is very, very opaque as to how that actually works, all their money there.
I'm just seeing a lot of Political money running throughout so-called alternative media, and I think we're starting to see kind of where the problems are, and I was doing a calculation.
We now know that, you know, we're about 850,000 people listen to an episode of the No Agenda Show, and that's a real number for one episode, which is pretty good.
You know, we could do one spot at a 25 CPM, and that's all we'd have to do.
Per episode.
Yeah.
One ad at that CPM, and that's all we'd have to do.
But I couldn't live with myself, and we would not be able to do this.
Well, you could live with yourself, but you couldn't live with the ramifications.
Correct.
And now, for years, we have, in a way, been compared to NPR with their model of listener-produced radio, podcast, media.
And NPR, it's always been baffling to us how they receive a little bit of money now, I think it's maybe 3%, but they're always, they have listener donation drives, and you can get a coffee mug or a tote bag, right?
But there's not supposed to be advertising, although we have heard in the past, you know, donor, was it sponsorships, donor... Underwriting.
Underwriting or... Whatever you want to call it.
Advertising, whatever you want to call it.
Yeah, we should probably, let me just, I should probably play that.
Find that clip.
Yeah, we have it, of course.
Here we go.
This is important to hear.
This is from... How long ago did we have this clip?
2012.
Rich Rodriguez recently fired his... Oops, that's not the one.
Here we go.
No, that's not... Oh!
It was... Who was it?
Sponsorship.
It was that woman.
That woman.
That woman.
Who has been around.
She's still floating around doing stuff.
She's a very, very talented manager, CEO type.
I think he was running NPR at the time.
We played this just the other day, didn't we?
Yeah, he just played it like two, three shows ago.
And was like, call it.
Advertising, whatever you want.
Here we go.
I got it.
Here's the one.
Okay, moving on to money.
How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
And what about foundation grants?
Two different stories.
Underwriting is down.
It's down for everybody.
I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
So we, of course, queried.
Wallet, whatever you want.
Can we call it advertising?
Is it advertising?
Is it sponsorships?
Is it underwriting?
Well, today, ten years later, we find out the truth.
Sadly, NPR is going through a downturn, like everybody else.
Like last time.
Like ten years ago.
Except the story has changed just a little bit.
And now for some news about NPR itself.
We're going to repart on ourselves because we have so much journalistic integrity.
And now for some news about NPR itself.
NPR announced a major restructuring today and revealed it's about to lay off about 10% of the workforce.
Our CEO, John Lansing, cited a drop of $30 million in projected advertising revenues.
NPR media correspondent David- What?! !
Advertising revenue?
A drop of 30%?
They dropped the facade!
30% drop?
What did she say?
30%?
30 million.
30 million in advertising revenues?
That's a lot of advertising that you're supposed to not be doing?
Or, let's find out, as they report on themselves.
Of course.
Our CEO, John Lansing, cited a drop of $30 million in projected advertising revenues.
NPR media correspondent David Fulkenflik joins me, and David, it's always a pleasure to talk to you, but this is a tough day, as you know.
It's a tough day.
That breathing in, you know what, that microphone you have, we're taking that.
We're taking that as part of your downsizing.
We're taking away all your Neumanns.
Yeah, look, it's a real loss, as John Lansing said in a memo to staff.
I've been here over 18 years.
It's the toughest cuts I've seen.
It's probably the toughest since the early 80s.
What we know is not a lot, except about the extent of it.
And what John Lansing said to me was that it would not be uniform across.
He wasn't just going to take a hatchet and do the same across all divisions.
30 million is only 10%?
So how much are these guys making in advertising?
I mean, I don't understand.
He wants to be strategic and thoughtful about how it's done.
But, you know, this is necessarily going to be us doing not only less with less, but reconfiguring how we do it.
He said that this is going to be really the focus of how NPR restructures itself in a significant way.
Now, what does that actually mean when he says he wants to be thoughtful?
He doesn't think this will be uniform across divisions.
Can you decipher what he's actually envisioning?
We don't know.
We don't.
What we do know is three different kinds of men.
Why report on it?
That's a deep dive.
Reporting on ourselves.
NPR is an independent non-profit media organization that was founded on a mission to create a more informed public.
Every day, blah, blah, blah, blah.
A thousand stations, 3 to 1.6 million.
Website visitors, weekly app users.
It doesn't really say how they're funded.
Oh, finances.
Strategic priorities he's placing on it, if you pack them together.
One of which is that he's talked about NPR's North Star, and that is both as a What?
Wait a minute.
They have to seek younger and more diverse audience base?
This is death.
Only old people listen to NPR.
NPR has to deepen and broaden its audience to, you know, seek younger and more diverse audience base.
And that that's the way in which he's building for the future.
And he said that.
Wait a minute.
They have to seek younger and more diverse audience base.
This, this is death.
Only old people listen to NPR.
Are they going to jazz it up now?
And like do, do hip podcasts and, and tell everyone.
I'm not sure that what you said is true.
Well, let's roll it back.
Do we have the demos on this?
Do you use a phrase?
You caught me flat-footed when you called for the demos on this.
I wasn't ready for that.
One of which is that he's talked about NPR's North Star, and that is that both as a sense of mission and a sense of purpose, And also as a business proposition, NPR has to deepen and broaden its audience to seek younger and more diverse audience base and that that's the way in which he sees building for the future.
And he said that since he arrived in the fall of 2019.
He's also talked about unifying its newsroom with its programming side.
The programming is where so much growth has happened, particularly in the podcasting division.
But these divisions in some ways are artificial.
A lot of our colleagues doing journalism are doing so under the rubric of podcasting, but it's still really part of a greater journalistic function.
There's that.
And he says, you know, this was part of a strategic element beyond where he wants to integrate NPR more fully with its stations, integrate both in terms of what we do content wise, but in terms of raising money and distributing our content online.
Okay, so 10% of the workforce, that's going to add up to about 100 jobs.
As we know, NPR is not alone here.
There are a whole lot of media companies in a budget crunch.
How does this news today from our newsroom fit in with a broader picture of our industry?
It's been a real crunch.
You saw hundreds of layoffs at CNN.
They killed their projected streaming service costs.
Do they have corporate underwriters at CNN?
And plus, you saw 7% cuts at Vox Media, 6% at Spotify, and at Gannett.
And you saw these huge cuts at these huge other places, Google, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, that also rely on advertising dollars.
It's one of the first place corporate executives cut when they fear the economy going soft as they have lately, even though unemployment remains very low.
A large portion of NPR's revenue comes from dues and fees paid by our member stations and underwriting from corporate sponsorships.
Other sources of revenue include institutional grants, individual contributions, and fees paid by users of the public radio satellite system.
So here's the breakdown.
37% of their revenue comes from corporate sponsorships.
I presume that's, you know, brought to you by Pfizer.
32% is from core and other programming fees.
Core, and I presume that they mean by that the member stations and fees paid by public radio satellite system.
12% is contributions of cash and financial assets.
That's the Jay Rockefeller Foundation.
Sure, that's not the public.
And listeners like you.
Listeners like you.
7% is other revenues.
Is that the advertising part?
Maybe.
That's closer to 10%.
No, wait, 5% is the PRSS satellite contracts.
Okay, so maybe 32% is core.
Look, I think their charter specifically forbids advertising.
This is what I don't understand.
I don't think that's true anymore.
I guess not.
It's altered.
I think the advertising is probably only working on podcasts.
That's where they can use advertising from, I believe, previous research that we've done.
Well he's also, that guy also hinted that the podcasts were different in such a way that I think he hinted that they do native ads on the podcasts.
Well that, no he says that's what they're going to do.
They're putting the the programming and all the departments together and then it's like well you know these they're doing podcasts but they're really doing core journalism.
I think it's falling apart because of podcasting.
You know, you didn't get there as fast.
You got there a little bit before I was.
I mean, I already thought that.
I'm totally convinced that's what it is.
And it harkens back a little bit on the Internet itself and the finances of how a newspaper makes money and how an online newspaper makes money.
It's so different that you can't run the New York Times if it was just online.
You have to have the hard copy stuff, the expensive ads in the print version, and you have to have, I mean, like PC Magazine in its heyday, the one-page ads were $50,000.
Oh man, those days are long gone!
And we're talking about hundreds of pages of those ads, twice a month.
It was glorious.
I was flying all over the place.
Business class!
But yes, and the point is that those days are over, and the economics are different, and the same thing with podcasting.
Except for the fact that we have our distribution through our own system.
If we were paying Podbean We'd be damn near broke.
And if we were paying 10 producers, that wouldn't help either.
But you pointed out in a thing you wrote a long time ago, you said on something a long time ago, you said that people don't understand that broadcasting and podcasting have a different basic element of finance in so far as that a broadcast in terms of scalability.
When a broadcaster sends out a signal and he's got a 10,000 listeners, it's costing him no more or less than if he has 5,000 listeners or 2 million listeners.
Right.
Because it's a broadcast signal and it's broadcast.
It goes everywhere and people pick it up or they don't.
With anything over the internet, if you've got a hundred listeners listening to your podcast, The amount of bandwidth that's going to cost you is not the same if you have a million or ten million.
It's going to cost you a lot of money and it doesn't scale in that way.
You can get that many people but you're going to have to pay more for the bandwidth because it costs money to put stuff on the internet.
It doesn't so much with broadcasting and until you get that you won't realize that podcasting is completely different.
Also the There's a huge difference in podcasting, really, and I, and you helped, actually, spend about $65 million worth of investors' money to find out that a single podcast can be very successful, can run on its own, if you run it lean and mean, if you do most of the work yourself, use the tools that are available.
You have to have some skills.
Yeah, of course, you have to have some skills.
It's like, you know, you can't just start a band, you know, you can't just... If you can't play the guitar... Yeah, you need to be able to play the guitar, or do something, or, you know, work some electronics.
The minute you build that into a network, which is always the mistake, made it myself, And, you know, as I say, you cannot monetize the network.
That just does not work.
When people know they can do things on their own, they come from their own system, you'll never be able to make everybody happy with the ads, the distribution of ads, the distribution of money, the promotion.
It just becomes a quagmire.
And this is the mistake that Spotify made.
And I advise them, don't do this.
This is not the way to go.
Of course, why would you listen to me?
I only blew 65 million.
They're close to 650 million, probably more, that they blew on their little experiment there.
It just doesn't work.
And now we have this really bad downturn in advertising.
And it's so bad that it's hitting NPR, which is not even supposed to have advertising, and that has to be because the only money that's really working, I think, is on the podcast side, because that's where they can do the ads.
And the radio is just too expensive.
The days are over when you had a narrow cast, and you had a couple of channels, and there's just too much offering.
There's too much.
Well, you overlooked the lean and mean.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Broadcast is by definition not lean and mean.
Generally, yeah.
No, they got unions.
Once the unions got into Spotify and Gimlet and all this stuff, and the money was flowing and it was an ESG checkmark for everybody.
It's like, hey, you know, we've got to do something for BIPOC podcasters.
Do we have any?
No, but we'll go make some and off run all the consultants and they make BIPOC podcasts and they get big companies to sponsor them.
You watch the big conferences like Podcast Movement and they're all going to go down the drain now because the money is done.
They should have gone down the drain by now.
No, they were riding high on the zero interest rate free money.
And now you see that even though it's not great for us, it's been better, we're going to survive this.
We can tighten our belts, but when you have to tighten the belts of a whole organization, Yeah, it just doesn't work that way.
And then you got to kick people out.
Morale goes down.
People start stealing stuff.
Pencils.
Microphones.
All kinds of stuff starts turning up missing.
People start having sex on the CEO's desk out of spite.
This is not going to go well.
Let's take a look.
I'm on the page of the NPR podcast page.
Yes.
Now they have dozens and dozens of podcasts.
I'm gonna just name a few of these.
Tell me if you ever heard of any of these.
Okay.
Okay, we got Up First.
Just say yes or no.
Up First.
No.
Embedded Featuring White Lies.
No.
No.
Here Now and Anytime.
Yes.
Here and Now Anytime.
I've heard of this one, yes.
Oh, you have.
Planet Money, you have.
Yep, yep.
Life Kit.
No.
Wisdom from the Top.
No.
Ultima Coppa.
No!
I'm cancelling that one right away.
Codeswitch.
Yes, I've heard of that one.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
Well, that's why you keep up with this a little more than I do.
These, I've never heard of any of these.
ThruLine.
No, no.
It's Been a Minute.
No.
Rough Translation.
No.
Book of the Day.
No.
Radio Ambulante.
No, no.
On Our Watch.
On Our Watch, no.
The Limits.
How many podcasts do they have?
No.
Go on.
No Compromise.
No.
StoryCorps.
Troll Room.
Chime in if you've heard any of these.
No.
Believed.
No.
This is bad.
Yeah.
Pop Culture Happy Hour.
Uh, we're cancelling that one too.
No, we're cancelling that one.
No, no, no, no, no.
What's good with Stretch and Bobito?
No.
Bullseye?
No.
Only a game?
No.
Invisibilia?
Yes, yes, I've heard of this one.
No.
No, I guess not.
Tiny Desk.
Tiny Desk?
That's what everyone's getting now at NPR.
I have not heard of the podcast.
Alt Platino.
What?
Louder Than a Riot.
No, no.
All Songs Considered.
That's a build-out of All Things Considered, I guess.
Yes, it is.
From the Top.
We already mentioned From the Top.
No, there's another one, From the Top.
No, they're doubling up.
Jazz Night in America.
A very popular jazz band.
Hold on, hold on!
I want to do Jaws Night in America from Fear NPR.
Mountain Stage!
Hey, hey, hey!
Can Zippy get a show with those guys?
It sounds like a bonanza!
World Cafe.
Okay, I'm done.
I left a few out.
World Bonanza.
No, I don't know any of these.
But I probably don't know 99% of all podcasts.
Of course not.
There's 4 million of them.
Well, we had to downgrade.
We had to do some chop and drop.
There's really 3.9 now.
Yeah, well, close enough.
Chop and drop.
Yeah, it's Operation Chop and Drop.
Well, that's a little too much inside baseball for most of these people that listen to our show.
But it's interesting, it's entertaining.
I think people who listen to our show enjoy the fact that we don't have to have some sad story.
Well, looks like we're going to have to drop 50% of the show.
John, I'm sorry.
It's going to go down to an hour.
Yeah, that's right.
We got to do less show now.
Although your bandwidth story, that has changed a little bit, but certainly not 15 years ago.
These days, Cloudflare and there's other, but you know, we don't want to be dependent.
The Cloudflare has de-platformed podcasts or some, yeah, I think actual podcast that they would not proxy it.
That's the whole point is that we have producers who've taken this on.
Void Zero, of course, has done this almost from day one.
Made sure that we had our own infrastructure, our own system.
And, you know, it's very affordable for us.
It's not free, but it's affordable.
It's not free, that's for sure.
No, and it's reliable.
But it's not Podbean.
Hey, you know, I have to say, Podbean released their new app, and they actually have a couple Podcasting 2.0 features in there.
So I feel bad about using Podbean as a bad example.
It's me.
I'm the one doing it.
And it's not a bad example.
I think Podbean does a pretty good job, except that they charge a lot.
And if you're in there, you don't get, you know, there's no, I mean, what's the point?
Why don't you just do it yourself?
Yeah.
People don't want to do it themselves.
They don't want to look into it.
I mean, it's cheaper if you can find, you know, you could do it out of your home.
You could do it from your own server.
Yeah.
If you get a deal with whoever's doing your provisioning for the internet.
I think the point that we've made in podcasting, then we should move on to something else, is that value for value works.
And this means that you don't have to have 850,000 people.
You just need, if you can get a hundred people who will support you regularly, you win.
If they'll support you at the level that they get out of, the value that get out of what you're doing, and that should really be the only reason for existence.
People still have this broadcast mentality.
We saw the same thing with blogs.
Yeah, I got a blog, I'm gonna be a millionaire, like Andrew, what's his name?
Sullivan.
Andrew Sullivan, who dropped the ball.
He did.
I don't know, I couldn't figure out why he did that.
But just because you can podcast doesn't mean that it should be worth anything.
If it is, it'll come back to you.
As we've learned, the more listeners you get, the less the participation rate in the donations.
Which someone asked me, hey, I heard you guys say you get like 4%, which is high, but I think you're right, 2-3% of those people that listen support us.
And the question was why?
Why?
Can you answer that?
Yeah.
It's just human nature.
It's the way it is with everything.
If you've ever been involved with direct marketing, you know immediately that you're going to get, you can do the numbers and you can know how much money you're going to make in advance of something you're going to try to sell.
But we ask them all the time and they just, they hate us for some reason.
No, you have to ask them all the time because otherwise they'll forget.
The audience, we always have to remember the basics and people out there trying to do podcasting should know this.
It's like, people, your podcast isn't the most important thing in anyone's life except you, maybe, and that might not even be true.
And so they're always forgetting that you even exist.
So you have to say, hey, hey, hey, I'm here, and you know, we're looking for some more donations.
Oh yeah, you guys, oh yeah, okay.
Otherwise, you're just gonna be forgotten.
I wonder if people who listen at high speed don't donate.
Oh, I'm sure the people listening at high speed don't donate.
I'm curious about that.
In fact, here's an example.
We have our friend, the sheriff of Texas, Eugene, he stopped donating once he started listening at high speed.
Have you noticed this?
Interesting, interesting correlation.
Hmm.
It rots your brain, and it moves you away from philanthropy.
It makes you greedy.
It makes you greedy!
Yeah, because the greed of trying to cram in a three-hour podcast in, you know, two hours... It carries over to your whole being.
It's a gestalt.
Oh, it's a bad gestalt.
A BG.
Um, and you know what?
There's more under attack right now.
This is my favorite story of the moment because the outcome of this could change the internet forever!
This morning, the killing of American college student Naomi Gonzalez in the 2015 ISIS terror attacks in Paris is a case before the Supreme Court.
I never thought that something is gonna happen to her.
I could never imagine it.
Never.
Her parents claim YouTube's algorithms highlighted ISIS-produced materials and further radicalized the extremists that killed their daughter.
Hopefully by this it'll change the laws and it'll be for the good.
Oral arguments today will center on Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, which says internet companies, including social media platforms, cannot be sued over third-party content uploaded by users.
But some legal experts say social media platforms are responsible for their content.
They get to decide what to carry, they get to decide what not to carry, and they get to decide how to design their algorithms to amplify certain types of content.
Another case being heard by the High Court today is the case of Anthony Novak of Ohio, arrested in 2016 after making a phony police Facebook page with fake announcements.
He says it was obviously a joke.
You click the page, it's very obvious, and even what you're reading should strike you as off.
Local police weren't laughing, charging him with disruption of law enforcement operations.
A jury found him not guilty, but he wants the Supreme Court to grant him the right to sue police for violating his civil rights.
They raided my house.
They took my electronics.
They arrested me.
My image was blasted all over the news.
I didn't do anything wrong.
So I don't want them to think that's okay, because I kind of think they do.
Both these cases could have big implications.
One potentially making social media platforms more liable for their content.
The other could draw the line between parity and public safety.
So this of course is about power over the internet.
That's the only thing that this is about.
No one cares who got hurt by the internet.
Where do you think this will land?
Well, this is a big deal.
It's going to be in the Supreme Court's hands and they're going to have to deal with it.
We do notice that Roberts and Kavanaugh are flip-flopping liberal to conservative.
Curiously, Kavanaugh, you'd think he'd be so irked by the treatment he got.
I thought Kavanaugh was conservative.
He is, but he's flip-flopping just like Roberts.
On this particular issue or in general?
On all issues.
There was a recent case where he was a clear conservative values versus liberal values, traditional liberal values, and he flipped over.
And so I think the Supreme Court's in pretty good shape so far as honesty about their positions.
And they do this, you know, you don't know what's going to happen when you get through and the guy gets in there.
And I think they're going to have, they're going to take a good hard look at this and whatever they come up with is going to be fascinating.
I really hope they destroy it all.
I mean, I'm kind of on your side.
I do.
I want it all to be destroyed.
I want, you know, in case you, oh, I should probably play this because this is, uh, uh, do we have it here?
Yes.
This is as predicted.
As predicted!
A change is coming to Instagram and Facebook.
Users will soon need to pay if they want to become a verified account.
It's a move that follows in Twitter's footsteps.
CEO Mark Zuckerberg says the new subscription service is aimed at improving security.
For $11.99 a month, you'll get a blue verified badge and direct access to customer support.
The program rolls out this week in Australia, launching in the US a little bit later this year.
So, two reasons.
Two reasons for this.
One, financially verified is much better than just verified.
So, now we know where to go to get you if you post some trolling comment, and it'll be perfect because we want to be your bank.
So now Elon Musk gets a little competition from the meta boys and girls.
Well, right off the bat, I mean, you get those guys, they're not dummies.
And they see what he's up to, and they, which you saw, and I saw what he's up to.
I hope they destroy it all, because we'll still have...
Our own protocols will work.
I mean, anyone who has Gmail, you're screwed.
You might as well get another account somewhere, because that's gonna be gone.
But everything else, we'll still be able to... Podcasts will continue.
It'll probably be the only thing left on the internet.
They don't know quite how to attack it.
How can you?
It's truly... They keep trying!
They keep trying to attack it.
There's probably more...
I'd say slander action, libel action on podcasts than anywhere.
The problem is, it's so linear that it's impossible to track it down.
Well, you know, because they keep threatening that AI and machine learning will be able to figure it out.
Hey, we publish a transcript on every single show.
So if you want to know if we slandered you, you can just read the transcript.
But no, they're going to, the law enforcement of the Internet, the Internet police, are going to figure it all out.
Yeah, we can do that with machine learning.
No, you can't.
It doesn't work.
None of it works.
None of it works is the theme.
The worst part is, all right, you want to sue us?
All right, good luck.
You can take my house, I guess.
Chop it up for firewood.
There's no money in suing little podcasters.
That is the problem.
So why bother even, who cares what they say?
I mean, we don't slander or libel people because we actually know the laws.
But there's plenty of it going on.
Yes.
But again, like you said, these podcasters are suffering unless they came out of Barstool Sports or something like that.
They don't have any money.
Or call her daddy or something like that.
But yeah, she makes big dough.
Even Joe Rogan.
I don't think there's ever been a slander lawsuit against Joe Rogan.
And there's some money to be gotten there.
Isn't that interesting?
Yeah.
Maybe people just don't care.
Well, you know, if they wanted to, and also there's all this, like, the dozens of podcasts I just ran through NPR.
There's people just shooting this shit and saying dumb stuff.
I'm sure there's lawsuits there, and NPR's got a $300 million budget.
There's plenty of it.
That's somewhat deep.
Yeah.
Mark advertising, no less.
Anyway, the world's in trouble, it's all burning, and I'd like to hear your Cy Hirsch clips before we take a break.
Oh, sure.
I like what Cy Hirsch is doing.
Cy Hirsch was on, of all things, he was with the British guy, comedian Russell Brand.
Oh yes, I saw this.
It was rather interesting.
Well, I thought it was interesting from the perspective that Russell Brand is a pretty good interviewer with a guy like Cy Hirst because he disarmed him by insulting him.
Right off the bat.
It was very good.
Right off the bat.
It was very good.
I agree.
About his hat, right?
Well, that was Psy insulting Brand, or mentioning the hat, which tipped Brand off that, oh, you want to play that game?
Right, right, right.
And so they went back and forth, and he really gave it to Psy, and he was cracking up!
It was good.
Well, Psy, Hirsch has humor, and you have to have humor as Seymour Hirsch.
When you're being called a liar, a Putin puppet...
There was something else that he did early on.
It was before the Russia collusion that he also called bullcrap on.
Oh, something with Obama, I think.
Wasn't it something with Obama?
Well, he, Cy has a, uh, he's had a good, he handled it well to the point where he, I know he didn't, didn't expect to do much on the show and ended up talking and talking and talking.
I got to go, but let me tell you this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, but there's only two things I thought were interesting.
One was, there was two little things up and it was about the balloons.
And this is Cy Hirst on the Alaska balloon.
The balloon and indeed the shooting down of the balloon.
Can I tell you about the balloons?
Can I tell you a little bit about the balloons?
Yeah!
I asked somebody about it, my friends, and I said, well, what's going on with the balloons?
Of course, they've been there forever.
Maybe you could argue they could take photographs of what a satellite can see much better.
But basically, the last wave, the unnamed car like with the American press so full of it, It turns out the federal government has a contract with the meteorology department or whatever it is, weather department at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks, and that is one cold place.
It's way up there.
Most of the classes are underground.
You go underground to classes.
I've spoken there.
I know about this firsthand.
And over the Arctic Circle, the Arctic Circle is a Everybody flies the polar route from Asia to America.
And there's no weather station there.
So the university has these little vehicles that goes and reports.
Pilots want to know if there's any unusual weather going on.
That's what you have to do.
And they are reporters of that information.
And that's what was shot down.
One of those things was shot down was one of those units that is sent up by a university paid by the government.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
That was pretty interesting.
Yeah, I thought that was good, too.
But then he has a real screwball story about the F-22 and shooting down the balloon.
And this is, I recorded, put this on here because I thought it was funny.
A lot of money for the F-22.
And its first kill was the first balloon that one came over, was discovered over Montana.
And the pilot And I'd like to think that he knows exactly what he's doing.
When he landed, you know, in World War II, your guys and your Spitfires and us and our P-51s, you took care of every mishmash, you put a little, you painted on the side a decal for the kills.
We did the same in Asia, our P-51s.
So the pilot of this F-22, getting the first kill of this plane, painted a balloon.
It's such a joke.
was socialized.
I'd love to think he was joking.
I don't know that.
I know he did it.
I don't know what was in his state of mind.
But we're just now, we've got to kill.
We killed a balloon, and that's worth a couple, you know, a few hundred billion dollars for a plane.
It's such a joke.
And I think all of that balloon stuff, that was just there to distract everyone from Hirsch's actual report.
I believe you...
I think so, too.
You do believe?
I do believe.
Yeah, certainly seems like that.
Most definitely.
Yeah.
Well, Russell Brand, what does he have, six million subscribers on his YouTube?
I sure... Didn't he also... I think he's on Rumble now, too, as a backup.
No, this was on Rumble, so I don't know if he's... Oh, good.
He's going to need that.
He's going to need that.
He will.
He's going to.
He's going to need that.
I'd like to thank you for your courage, saying in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in, call it advertising!
Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C. DeMora!
Hello, Darren O'Neill, and you there.
In the morning to you, in the morning I'll ship the sea boots to the ground, feed the air subs in the water, and all the dams and nights out there.
Hey, you on 1.5 speed, slow it down.
This is good stuff here.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to do that from time to time.
When people go, whoa, whoa, I just heard someone talking in normal parlance.
That's right, in the morning to all the trolls in our troll room, trollroom.io.
Let's see, these are the people who hang out.
They have been very helpful, actually, today, except for BlueDeuce33.
For some reason, I can't kick people out anymore.
There's something wrong.
I don't have the power.
I don't have any more God power, so I feel bad.
And the trolls, they listen live.
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Let's find our trolls!
How many do we have here in the troll room today?
What is good for a Thursday?
1800.
Yeah, we're low.
1721.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
room today uh what is good for a for a thursday uh 18 1800 yeah we're low 1721 uh-oh about 80 oh oh oh no we've lost all our trolls oh my goodness and we love the trolls so much Well, we hope you come back, or at least we hope that you hang out with us at knowagendasocial.com.
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Probably the most blocked instance in the Fediverse.
There's reasons.
And we're happy about that.
That's the way it should be.
That's how the internet should work.
If you don't like something, it's a bug, just route around it.
That's perfectly okay.
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And I would like to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1531.
We titled that one The Dead Name.
And, you know, I have to say that it just didn't feel like there was a lot.
And funny enough, for the rant I put out about Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon, the best art, which we kind of liked, was the Lemon Sour's Sour Puss Punch.
Which had a caricature of Don Lemon on the box.
As a lemon.
As a lemon.
And I thought it was a good caricature.
It really looked good.
Well, the thing on the webpage popped like hell.
I didn't even realize how good that thing looks when it was actually produced.
No, it popped massively.
Nestworks did this, by the way.
And a lot of people got it, they thought it was funny.
But it, I don't know, it feels like, I mean, even today I'm seeing kind of a low turnout on the arts.
I mean, it's possible that people have other things to do.
It is, after all, it's still Black History Month.
We had President's Day on Monday, which Mountain Jay was just swinging for the fences on trying to get President's sale, best price, with coins... Let's discuss this, John, because I think sometimes an artist, when they're just trying to swing at it and... Oh, art director was comic strip blogger, I see.
Oh, there you go.
Now I know what the problem was.
Mountain J worked with Comic Strip Blogger on trying to create a piece that would win?
That kind of... that kind of makes it understandable.
Can you explain how this... how wrong this was in this case?
Which one?
The coins, the President's Day sale.
The coins?
They were posted eight times.
Yeah, eight times over they were posted.
It just was not... it was... This is an example of an artist Getting a hair up their ass.
And knowing there's something there, but they can't get it themselves.
In fact, I'll tell you this, if an artist repeats the same piece over and over and starts changing things, they don't have confidence in the piece.
It's just saying, well, maybe if I did this, maybe if I did this, before we even looked at it once.
And so they're already so that's kind of a giveaway that there's something amiss now once in a while you see a couple of maybe two variations on something or somebody just changes the background and okay that kind of works I think yeah I don't know what that what the point of these coins well I think what happened was it might have been Mountain J who almost won the episode before maybe even won before that which was the best price And we chose for, I think, some balloon art.
Let me see if that was Mountain J. That was the balloon art.
No, that was Tantaniel.
That was Tantaniel.
It was Tantaniel, and it was a balloon shaped like a heart.
Yes, that's the one we wound up choosing.
But for some reason, Best Price, I think that's really more of an inside joke.
It only works when you do it with a racist accent.
Best Price!
It doesn't really work otherwise.
I have a feeling that somehow that got mixed up.
Her last one, which is the President's Sale Best Price.
Yeah.
And I don't know, which is custom licensed art.
What was licensed?
I don't know, maybe like... The flag?
Maybe.
But you know, if you look down below, it's like, Comic Strip Blogger was the art director.
I mean, that's sudden death right there.
Why would you take art direction from Comic Strip Blogger?
All he does is butts!
Well, now he's doing almost exclusively... Yeah, AI art.
AI art.
Some of it's pretty good.
I liked his piece, but it was never going to get picked, which was the Biden one, where he looks like he's... This is a crazy Biden picture.
It was nice.
It was two shows ago, maybe.
Oh, L. Biden?
L. Biden, yeah.
That's a good piece.
Let's see, what else did we have?
Nothing else here was really that great.
I mean, I did use another Nessworks piece for the newsletter, which was the, this false claims sauce with, looks like a cartoonized version, looks like a cartoonized version of Chef.
I think it's supposed to be Shiva, I don't know, it could be anybody, but he's holding this can, it's just a nice pretty piece and he's got the little thing in the background of the guy's head, whatever it's called, there's a name for it.
So other choices that we had, we need more ammo, that didn't really work.
There wasn't a lot of choice.
Don't RAF.
There was a Maid Marriott, kind of a Joker piece, but that had a number on it.
We try not to use episode number art.
No Agenda Google ITM was a nice piece, but it didn't really tickle us.
The Tesla Recall by Capitalist Agenda, no.
I just, I didn't get that one.
That was kind of it.
What else?
There wasn't a lot of offering.
No, I thought it was flat.
You're flat!
Everybody's flat!
And you're still looking flat!
Let's hope we can get something good for this episode.
Maybe everyone's broke and out of ideas.
Broke and out of ideas, just like a depression.
I've always said a depression, people don't understand what a depression is.
They have this, you know, reasons, you can do some calculations, oh you're in a depression.
People are depressed in a depression.
I think it's called a depression because they're literally depressed.
Oh, I don't really want to go to work today.
But is it not so that during bad economic times and depressions, some of the best art is created?
I'm beginning to think that's a myth.
I think we're doing some of our best work, personally.
Maybe.
Personally, I think we're knocking it out of the park here.
If you listen at one time speed.
Otherwise, yeah, it all just blends together.
Maybe people are just going nuts.
You know, if it's not the outrage of the day, then whatever.
We've been through these cycles.
We've seen it all.
We've seen it all.
Outrage of the day.
Congratulations to Nestworks.
Thank you so much.
This is Equal Opportunity Offenders here for anybody who wants to try their hand at creating the art that we'll use for episode 1532, which is this one.
By the way, I really like that graffiti, or as you would call it, uh, graffiti from Fluffcom.
Graffiti.
I like that piece a lot.
Yeah, but it says 1532.
We don't typically... But it is 1532.
I know, we don't typically pick... We don't typically, but we've done it a lot.
But that's a nice piece.
If somebody can't beat that piece, I'm voting for it.
So far, so far looks good.
You can follow along at noagendershop.com or in one of those new podcast apps, podcastapps.com.
All of them have the chapter feature and our very own Dreb Scott does those after the fact, adds them all in and adds a lot of the art that didn't make it, which is a fun way to display that as well.
And of course some of this art actually winds up at noagendershop.com.
I saw a new piece The appetite for deconstruction is apparently now on hoodies and t-shirts and mugs.
I can't wait to buy a couple of them.
I need a new hoodie.
And that is, you know, that's the art that you didn't like, the one with the skulls.
Yeah.
Closing a Grateful Dead logo to me.
It's actually taken from Guns N' Roses, Appetite for Destruction.
So it's a spoof.
But I think it's beautiful.
I want one.
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It's right in your Texas Hill Country.
That's right.
We're a bunch of hillbillies over here.
And thank you, of course, Nestworks, and thanks to all the artists.
We give you these reviews because no one else will be honest with you.
We are.
And we appreciate all the work that goes into it, of course.
As with all the things everyone does, 150 emails a day of people with ideas, with stories, with boots on the ground reports, with jingles, with clips.
It really is a time, talent, and treasure mission, this Value for Value.
And we'd like to thank, we're going to thank everybody all in one go.
We can do it once again.
No two segments necessary.
And we start off with our executive producers.
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And kicking it off from Glen Gardner, New Jersey with $1,000, Sir Never PC, who says, Dear John and Adam, thanks for your insights into the real truth behind the deluge of propaganda we are bludgeoned with daily.
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Bludgeoned.
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I was hit in the mouth while listening to Adam on the JRE.
Joe Rogan donation about a year ago and have been an avid convert ever since.
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It could be great stuff, but I think he's wrong about the, oh, they hated by, he's a small market.
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I don't like that kind of awkward promotion.
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Thank you.
40651 of this contribution puts me at baronetes.
Yes, and I think she's on the list.
Yes, she is, definitely.
So, Baronetta's Lady Bird, Eagle of the Toledo Bend, if it please the Peerage Committee, will be my new title.
I could never afford how much you are worth to me.
Love is lit.
No.
Rhett.
Yes.
Dame Lady Bird.
I will say that she hand wrote this letter.
It's beautiful.
And it's printed in all caps.
Yep.
But it's really nice.
Very readable.
It's like you'd read it, it's like a radio read.
Everything's all caps.
You've got karma.
So she has a good hand, as they like to say. - Indeed.
Uh, I guess I'm up here.
Here we go.
Randy Carlson, PARUMP!
Nevada.
PaRump.
PaRump.
Our favorite executive producer donation amount.
We always ask for it.
333.33.
Switcheroo!
This birthday, 23rd of February, credit belongs to Dame Sand Cat of Southern Nye County.
And he says, jingles Tortoise in the Race and Goat Karma.
Yeah, Tortoise in the Race is not actually a separate jingle.
It's one of the Sharptons.
I'll see, maybe it's in here.
Thanks!
To you, Ed!
Is this Crown Hog Day 2?
We are watching.
That was Attorney General Eric Holder.
ABDs about some Republicans at home are already beating the drum.
It's good to hear Sharpton again, actually.
...of war.
Today, the Pentagon refuted that claim.
And he said the American people do not want him to, quote, dwindling, they do not want him dwindling his thumbs.
He can get a gig as a contortionist.
Intravenous fluids and pills coated with gilet, uh, giletton.
We don't leave our women or women, women or men in uniform behind.
It's a monument to the hubris of Dick Cheney.
Representative Raul Ara Labrador.
Years of abuse.
I personally apologize to Mr. Peebus.
Just ask.
Soon to be former congressman.
Democrats are outright jitty.
C.I.A.' 's counter-terrorism center.
Not in here.
That's the defense secretary, Shinseki.
Why do I always mess up his name?
Shinseki.
I love my critics.
Couldn't find it, sorry.
You've got It'll have to do.
I did find Sir Vegas King in Lost Wages, Nevada, which is near Pahrump.
Oh, is it now?
Yeah.
In fact, I think Pahrump could be called a suburb.
333.33.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I cannot express the joy and info you have brought us.
So much to say about life and how Vegas is and isn't doing well after the shutdown.
Maybe more in another note.
Yes, I would like to hear about that myself.
We love boots on the ground like that.
Sir Vegas King and Stephanie.
Watch SinCityChurch.com each week.
Another plug for something we don't know about.
333, from Surrounded By My Privilege, I'm making this donation as a way of saying thank you for your courage and to return value not only for these twice weekly amygdala shrinking therapy sessions but also because of just how generous you are with your time.
Huh?
Well, let me read on.
I don't know how you do it.
Oh, I think he's talking to me.
He's certainly not talking about you.
I don't know how you do it with all you have going on in your life.
A wildly successful podcast.
Developing podcast 2.0.
Undergoing serious health challenges.
A keeper to keep, yet none of this prevents you from maintaining a dedication to your producers with a level of accessibility that is unmatched in media and entertainment.
Nearly every time I've reached out with a question about OTG phones or audio drift from double-ending.
Mm-hmm.
You've taken that.
He's talking to the lube guy.
You've taken the time to respond.
That is true class setting the standard for all to follow.
It's not that hard to answer an email.
That I learned from my colleague, John C. DeBoer.
No jingles, no karma, no promoting the new podcast I'm producing, which is by far the best one in my zip code, if you include the plus four.
We can do that a number of times.
This is just to say thank you for all you do, you and John do, and express my appreciation for every last producer of the No Agenda podcast.
Sincerely, Andrew, a.k.a.
Surrounded By My Privilege.
That was very nice.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, it was nice.
QQ's up next.
I'll get the next two because QQ from Key West, Florida.
I know QQ.
I can't find a note.
$333 for a double of the karma I think would be useful.
Yeah, can I just say, so I know QQ.
I've met QQ.
What's QQ like?
QQ is very Russian-like, but he's not.
I think he's from Moldova, and he's been giving me a lot of insight to the bullcrap there, so he's been giving me boots-on-the-ground reports.
No good for QQ.
QQ is very cool, but I will give him a double karma.
He deserves that for sure.
You've got karma.
That brings me to Dustin Eck in Williamsport, Pennsylvania.
And he came in with 333.
Williamsport?
My family lives in Williamsport.
Ooh.
Yeah.
ITM gentlemen, another Rogan donation.
Been an avid listener for over two years and this is my first donation.
The V4V finally hit me in the mouth and brought me to my senses.
And I just hope the small donation will help keep you guys around that much longer.
No jingles, no karma, just keep up the good work.
That's exactly how- Thank you.
Thank you so much.
That's exactly how you have to think.
If you like that little store on the corner and you don't go in and buy something from time to time, that little store on the corner will eventually go away and you'll be sad.
That's how you should look at it.
We're just a little store on the corner of Maine.
Doesn't take much.
Of Maine and the hood.
Brian P. Bellin is in Asbury, New Jersey.
First Associate Executive Producer, $250.
Thanks for a great show.
Please explain that vasectomy looks better.
Wife wants me to get one.
I'm not down for it.
Need more reasons.
Okay.
We go to our resident vasectomy expert, John C. Dvorak, who has developed and proven his theory multiple times.
Well, I've started with 1923 is when the vasectomy became popular.
It was just a coincidence that they noticed this, is that a vasectomy was the substitute Earlier, for de-balling, uh, castrating prisoners who were sex criminals or they had other issues, and they noticed that a doctor would cut these guys' balls off and then the guy would come, when he got out of prison, go kill the guy.
Oh, so that wasn't working out.
So they came up with this operation where they did this, which became a vasectomy, which accomplished the same thing.
In other words, you got denutted.
But it was, the guy looked down, he looked fine.
He's too dumb to know that anything happened.
So he didn't get killed, the doctor.
But they started noticing that these guys started to have a youthful look.
Uh, as they got older, they started looking like young lesbians, but they still, it was a useful, you'd look good.
Yes, the skin was smooth.
They didn't have so many wrinkles.
There was a number of things and it became a rage in the twenties.
And there's a lot of research done on not only you looked better.
But you also, you might live longer.
There's a million reasons these vasectomies were used for this, but it was also noticed by myself and others that the look was really an old lesbian look.
It developed, it was good for a while, then you started to look like an old woman.
And the skin was white.
It's not a good thing.
So I try to dissuade people from getting vasectomies, but most of the time the women have it, you know, the spouse.
Look, if she wants it and you're going to do it, she got you by the balls already, brother.
So you might as well just get over it.
Well, there's other things you could do.
Well, here's the one thing.
And I don't know how old you are, Brian, but my good friend Mike, he's the former cop from Kerrville with anger management issues.
And so he's remarried and he's now 50.
He's in his 50s.
And his significantly younger hot wife wants to have a baby.
So now he's got to reverse this.
It was rarely works.
Well, you know, he doesn't he doesn't even like the whole idea.
But you know, she loves her.
So he's probably gonna have to go for it.
So and that's a good pain in the ass.
I mean, well, not really pain somewhere else where.
So we can't we other than that, I think it's symbolic.
I think you're good.
You're just being symbolic.
symbolic castration.
That's my opinion.
And say hi to your wife.
I'm sure she loves listening to the show.
And I'm sure all the vasectomy victims out there that are listening to this show, they just, right at the moment, there goes the donations for the next show.
Vasectomy victims.
There should be a group.
Vasectomy Victims Anonymous?
The VVA?
I'm telling you.
Okay.
Thank you very much, Brian.
Indy... I'll do Indy.
Indy... Indy No Agenda Meetup.
Greenwood, Indiana.
226 switcheroo donations for Julie Sheeks.
What?
She won the raffle.
Yeah, I think they sent a... I think they sent a meetup report.
That's right.
She won the raffle.
And she's also not only... She's a long-time listener, but now first-time donor.
She needs a de-douche.
You've been de-douched.
Cool.
I'm gonna add the indie thing there, too.
So we have that.
Parker Newcomb is up.
And he's in Houston, Texas 223.
And he says I need a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Please allow me to shill for one of my favorite podcasts, Blood Satellite.
Excellent show.
Just wanted to give them a boost.
And thank you guys, as well, for all the great content.
Bring back Zippy!
Yeah, Karma!
Yeah, Karma, Bitcoin, Truck or Horn.
Somebody asked me on the No Agenda thing, you know, do we have a donation level so we can have the note, the complete note, read in Zippy's voice?
Yeah, that's a great idea!
I could pull in big bucks for the show!
Well, I was, so I first came up, I said, well, any, you know, executive, you could probably, then I said, no, no, no, no, no.
I immediately thought executive producer only.
Yeah.
And then I said, well, I didn't put this in the note, but I'm thinking to myself.
Come on, John!
Jack him up!
How about 500 bucks?
Yeah!
Shut up, Zippy.
Zippy's getting all jacked up.
More, more, more, John!
I'm worth a lot.
I'm not just some cheap whore.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hold on, I need to do the jingles here for the... What was it?
Yeah, Karma Bitcoin Trucker Horn.
Well, it's going to do it in the reverse order.
They're saying that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a Bitcoin.
You've got... Karma.
Thank you, Parker.
Uh, Jeffrey Williams, Broomfield, Colorado.
RoaDux222.22.
I took the slow boat from Grime-erica to No Agenda Nation, but what a fantastic trip!
Please extract me from the douche canoe.
You've been de-douched.
I like douche canoe.
Dragana is back from Avarovic in Parker, Colorado.
And she says, this is a Switcheroo donation from a human resource, Alice.
So we have a human resource getting this donation.
February 19th was her birthday and I would like to beg you all if you could maybe sing her a happy birthday song to Alice.
You know, you can sing.
You've been de-dooshed.
I'm not really a de-doosh.
Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Alice!
Happy birthday to you.
Thank you, Zippy.
You got the exclusive Zippy song.
That's right.
She turned, and by the way, kept it in tune much better than Adam's ever done.
She turned five years old.
If not, please read this.
Happy birthday, Alice Mommy, and Billy love you very much, and please de-douche her.
We've got the de-douche.
And she loves the jingle, you bendy douche.
Could you play that?
We played it.
She goes around saying that everywhere, even... She goes around saying it everywhere, even in pre-K.
You bendy douche!
And I'm pretty sure her teachers have no clue what she's saying and why.
Ha ha ha.
I would just say de-juiced, if there's any question.
De-juiced.
De-juiced, yeah.
In fact, Simon Doyle is from Orfield, PA.
$200, Associate Executive Producer title.
Love the show, thanks for all you do.
This is my first time donation, so I must request a de-juicing.
God bless, Baruch Hashem!
You got it.
Oh my gosh!
Can you see that juice?
You've been de-juiced.
Kind of, I guess.
And finally, the last two on our list is Scott Fuller in Cumming, Georgia for $200, and John Selle in Dodge, North Dakota.
both of them with no notes or give them a combined uh uh double double up karma you've got karma and those are the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1532 This means that you get that forever title, Executive Producer of this No Agenda episode, or Associate Executive Producer.
You can use those wherever...
Credits are wherever you want, of course, but credits will be recognized.
You can put them in your IMDB, you can put them in your LinkedIn, put them on your resume.
If anyone ever questions that, we will be happy to vouch for you and John's going to take us through to the 50s and we'll wrap it up with our birthdays and meetups and our nightings and damings.
Sean O. Enterprising in Philadelphia 135 and he's got some Some de-douchings needed with Nate and other 76 club members.
You've been de-douched.
Jason, Jason Bibble, Bible, B-Y-B-L-E, B-Y-B-E-L in Austin, Texas, 112, D. Marcus in Winnipeg, Canada, 111.33.
Shane Wearinga, I'm guessing, in Byron Center, Michigan, 102.
Joseph Armory, or Amory, in Piscataway, New Jersey, 100.
Ian Field, 100.
Tommy B. in Hillsboro, New Jersey, 100.
He needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Sir Chris Gray of the Isle of Wight in Covington, Louisiana, 8888.
Sir Latte, 8008.
Uh, Bremerton, Washington.
And the newsletter got him, he says.
Okay.
Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina is there for another in a row of 8-0-0-8 boob donations.
Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona, 75-75.
Jonathan Kalasnik in Washington, DC, 75.
Indeed, if that's your name.
R&R Content LLC in Trumbull, Connecticut.
Yes, we did okay.
Sir Slardabart Fast in Hope, Rhode Island, 5678.
Matthew Lainhart in Buford, Georgia.
He's got a birthday.
He came out 51-10.
Sir Jules Reed in Honolulu, Hawaii, 51-55-10.
Sir Glenn in Raleigh, North Carolina, 55-10.
Srivnas Murthy.
Srivnas, he's always very active.
Always, always active.
He's always in there.
No agenda social.
Culpepper, Virginia, 52-71.
Brian Richardson in Aurora, Illinois has a long note because he's becoming knighted and I think you should, I guess we can, you like to read parts of these notes?
Yes.
Yes, indeed.
He says, I found the show by listening to Scott Horton, which is no small podcast.
Scott Horton donation.
Found that on the stream back in 2011, I do believe.
Your show was playing instead of his at work one day and the rest is history.
Noah Jenna has red-pilled me!
Sorry, was not the intention.
Which is depressing most times, but has done for me what I can put into words right now.
You definitely helped me laugh about it all, and it is a quality product.
I met Adam and the Keeper in Des Moines, and was at the Keep Up in Chicago.
I would love to meet John someday.
I was listening to Curry and the Keeper number 32, incredibly funny by the way, and I'd mentioned how close I was to knighthood at the dinner, but I didn't have my knight name figured out.
Thanks to the Keeper, Sir Brian with an I, and the rest of the fantastic people that were there, I decided on Sir Brian with a Y. The rest of the fantastic people that were there...
The copious party favorites at the roundtable are already great.
I don't need to burden the staff.
I hope to maybe come down to the Nashville meetup, April 17th, and whenever the Indy one will be, it'll be sometime.
Our Chicago group is gonna find our way there soon regardless, so look out, Indy!
Do it on the weekend!
All right, thank you very much, and you're on deck for your nighting, and thanks for showing up at the meetup and the keep-up.
That's great.
I'll go straight through.
Forrest Martin came in with $50.05, and we have another royalty here with $50.02, M of the Mid-Valley.
And with this humble donation, I push past the threshold of knighthood.
I request the title, Sir M, Mad Son of the Mid-Valley.
I also humbly request dad jokes and double espresso at the round table.
Lastly, if I could get a plug for my ongoing project or labor of love slash exit strategy, Ah!
Yes!
I know this product.
It's the only site on the internet built without the aid of computers.
Anticomputer.org.
It's an online periodical that uses humor and satire to lampoon modern life and technology with hidden NA references.
The latest issue tackles work from home, the death of expertise, how to watch Netflix, When the grid goes down and an interview with The Singularity.
And at the moment, I'm doing all the writing, editing, artwork, and web design save for one article that John C. Dvorak graciously allowed to be reposted.
That was the one we read at the top of the show!
Check it out.
Visit the Anticomputer.org store.
Buy a shower curtain with Professor Ted's face!
What?
Buy a shower curtain with Professor Ted's face wearing the They Live sunglasses just as he would have wanted.
I have to check this out.
Thank you for your courage, Sir M. Madson of the Mid-Valley.
Thank you, sir.
On deck on the podium in moments as well.
The following people are $50 donors.
I'm just going to read the names and locations, starting with Michael Romano in Sebastopol, David Perdue in Snow Hill, North Carolina, Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California, Bart Biekwalder in Wegel, Netherlands, and Noord Brabant.
Daniel Kelly in Falls Church, Virginia.
Braxaw Brands LLC in Portland, Oregon.
Donald Locke in Pottsville, Pennsylvania.
Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan.
That's a sir.
And Sir Patrick Maycomb in New York City.
Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
Robert Case in Mill Spring, North Carolina.
Christy Jones in Demorist, Georgia.
Or Demorist.
Robert Hanna in Poway, California.
Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey.
John Lawrence in Helots, Texas.
Kate Haskell in San Rafael, California.
Sam... Williams?
It's a long story.
Sam Williams in Battle Creek.
Yes!
Battle Creek, Michigan.
He's looking for work.
He's newly divorced and looking for work.
Yeah, no Sam.
Julian Robbins in Aptos, California.
Another Aptos, California.
You can do a meet-up there.
Allen Bean.
Sir Baron Allen Bean in Beaverton, Oregon.
Michael Statham, Parts Unknown.
And Sir Hold My Beer is still there in Austin, Texas.
I want to thank these people for, all these people for making everything work here on The New Agenda Show 15 to 23, I believe. 1532.
Yeah, 1532.
And I want to say hi to Sir Julian.
He drove out from Bastrop to have lunch with me on, was it Tuesday?
Here in Fredericksburg.
You remember him from the Bastrop meetup?
He and his dame put in a huge donation at the time.
And he said, you know, I really love the donation segments.
Do people understand how much content there really is in those donation segments?
I said, no, I don't know.
They do seem to come back after the segment, but yeah, there is a drop-off of about 7%.
I agree.
I think some of our best work is in these segments.
I also want to thank Debra for the card.
It's nice.
Thank you.
Thank you to all of our execs, associate execs.
They have the Forever titles, of course.
Thank you, everyone, all the way up to $50 under that.
We do not mention for reasons of anonymity.
We try and keep it that way.
But we do appreciate everyone who was on those sustaining donations.
You can find out more about them at our website, Dvorak.org.
And let's give a little service goat karma for those who need it.
Karma.
And thank all of you for supporting the No Agenda Show, episode 1532.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Order. Order.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
It's your birthday birthday.
I'm so much in the air.
And nice list of eight.
Dragana Averovic wishes her daughter Alice a happy birthday.
Turned five on February 19th, and Zippy did all of that work for her, so good.
Dame Sandcat of Southern Nye County celebrating today, the 23rd.
Sir Lenard wishes Josh Bradford a happy birthday.
Turns 39 tomorrow.
And Dame Drea, Mad Dame of the Mid-Valley, wishes her Sweden's M of the Mid-Valley a happy birthday.
And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
T-t-t-title changes Turn and face the slate Ice changes Don't wanna be a douche We have one title change.
You heard it earlier.
Dame Lady Bird now becomes Baroness Lady Bird Eagle of Toledo Bend.
And we welcome her to this higher level on the Peerage Ladder.
And thank you very much for your extra support.
We really do appreciate it.
We got two knights on deck.
Ow!
Ow!
I cut myself too.
I need your blade.
Here you go.
Let me just put this band-aid on.
Thank you.
Two knights on deck.
Here we go.
Brian Richardson, step up here on the podium, and M of the Mid-Valley, both of you supported the Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more, and I'm therefore very proud to pronounce the K-V as Sir Brian with a Y, and Sir M Madson of the Mid-Valley, for you gentlemen.
By request we have, of course, Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, also Dad Jokes with Double Espresso.
We got Warm Beer and Cold Women, Fish Pie and Falacio, we got some Harlots and Howl Doll, we got Red Heads and Rise, Organic Macaroni and Plasticizer, Beer and Blunts, Rubenes, Ruben and Rosé, Geist and the Sake, Bacchum, Nillebong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablum, and of course, where would we be without Mutton and Mead?
Feast on that with all the rest of the Knights and Dames here at the Roundtable, and when you're ready, go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
Everybody can see the beautiful No Agenda Knight or Dame rings on display there.
We need you to fill out the form, let us know what your ring size is, and where to send it.
And of course with that comes wax, official wax to seal your correspondence with, and a certificate of authenticity signed by John and myself.
Thank you again for supporting the No Agenda Show!
All right, we got we got meetup reports here we got meetup reports here written one from sir from Roger Roundy from the senile POTUS Washington DC 19th of February meetup He didn't send in a piece of audio.
He's going to make me do the work.
In attendance were Willow H. Grimm, Sir Pantagelini, Kurt B. the Human Action Handyman, Renegade, and a Polish dude named Job.
Polish dude named Job.
We saw close-up Ron Paul, Jimmy Dore, and Dennis Kucinich, among many others.
Oh, celebrities!
We met people all over the political spectrum, including commies, libertards, peaceniks, alt-right, a deep-sea diver, and Tulsi Gabbard!
This would have been funny if you'd recorded this, actually.
After four long freakin' hours of speeches, it was just me and Job left for the final march to the White House.
And after that, long people were cranky!
Megaphones, arguments, a chubby anarchist t-boned my senile POTUS sign.
A 70-year-old nearly took out Job with his cane.
It was awesome!
Peace out!
Sounds like a good time, man.
These no-agenda meetups, you never know what's gonna happen.
Let's go to Fishtown.
This is Sean here from Local 76 at Philadelphia Brewing Company.
We got 10 people here on our second, no, our third anniversary.
My second as a host.
Craig, Rob, and Nate have all contributed a total of $135 as their membership douche.
Please de-douche them, guys.
And don't give us that Chinese de-doucher.
Wednesday morning!
This is Nate from P-Town.
Love you guys.
Thank you for your courage.
It's Rob from Brooklyn.
Here at the 76ers.
Annual meet-up.
And I do believe.
This is Lou in the morning to all the douchebags out there.
Donate!
Donate!
Hey, it's Suburban Shen!
This is Lynn, future lady of the Philadelphia Badlands.
I just want to say hi to Zippy.
This is Jason having a few beers with some sophisticated people.
I'm so glad that Wynn introduced me to this and Summer, and I truly appreciate you guys and what I learned.
Thank you.
This is Kylie.
In the morning!
Yeah, we had another big meet-up.
Now, people, when you're sending these file names, label them please.
I forgot now who this is from, but here we go.
Yeah, you do.
Yeah.
We're not waiting on him to have a smoke.
He's a bad talker.
Okay.
Well, I'm gonna have to edit that one.
Sorry.
Yeah, I mean, if that's something I can't play out of the box, I took a risk.
And the same with this one.
This is from, I think this is the IndyNA meetup.
It's a risk.
Let's see what happens.
Hi, this is Mark.
And this is Maria.
Oh, it's good.
These guys know what they're doing.
From our monthly Indianapolis meetup.
Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel.
Thank you for your courage.
And I do believe this Spooks are back!
Hi, this is Julie from Fishers.
This is my first meet-up.
I won the raffle and I'm no longer a douchebag.
Hi, this is Cyril of The Mobile.
This is a great meet-up, but don't tell the government about it.
All of our party balloons are made in China.
Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon?
Hey, I think I caught the Uptalk this month.
This is Emily.
Go Spooks!
In the morning.
Hey, it's Gary from Greenwood.
We have a serious situation.
We need to get up to Lake Huron, and I'm getting a search-and-rescue party together to get our $400,000-plus of taxpayer money back.
Who's with me?
Scarlet B. from Chicago!
Thanks, IndyTribe!
This is St.
Father.
In the morning to you, John and Adam.
This is Nick.
Mark is wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
He's the spook.
This is Mike from Fort Wayne.
We've come over to take over the Indy Group, but we're not succeeding very well.
In the morning.
This is Shannon from Fort Wayne visiting Indianapolis.
Everyone here is 33% happier now that we've eaten our daily assessment of kale.
In the morning, this is Dame Trinity having a great time in Indy.
Thank you for your courage.
In the morning, John and Adam.
It's your PBR Street Gang here in Indianapolis having a great time.
Thinking of you.
See ya.
Jeremy from Napanee, Indiana.
In the morning.
Nada from Indianapolis.
There's a big balloon at the table, but no F-22.
Anne from Napanee, and I'm not taking that balloon home.
In the morning!
Man, that is such a big group, the Indy Meetup.
I mean, that thing's growing.
And then the Chicago guys and gals are going to come down and join them?
That's going to be off the hook.
That's what we need to do.
A tri-state meetup.
Oh, I'm going to coordinate this with the keeper.
Well, you might as well put Michigan 1 in there.
That's what I'm saying.
We throw them all together.
Imagine that meetup.
All right, first one the 17th of April.
That's the national one we're gonna do.
All right, here's what's coming up tomorrow.
We've got the I Must Be High number eight, seven o'clock, McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Grill in Toronto.
We've got the International Slaves Adunanza.
Miami Time, 7 o'clock, Rakija Lounge, Miami Beach, Florida.
Southside, Okie City, Hui Hui Meetup, 1 o'clock at Garage Moore off I-35, that's Moore, Oklahoma.
This is all Saturday now.
Brews by the Bay, 1 o'clock at the Guild, Warren Beer Hall & Brewery in Warren, Rhode Island.
QCNA, 2 o'clock in Armored Gardens, Davenport, Iowa.
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Are we on time?
Wow.
Done a lot today.
I'm out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you want me.
Triggered or held lame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Are we on time?
Wow.
Done a lot today.
Done a lot of talking.
I'm slissing a little bit, but we're trying to work on this.
Ready for us ISOs?
How many you got?
Only two.
I don't think I'm very good.
I got three.
Play your two.
Ready for the big one?
Thank you very much for your courage.
Aw, shit sound.
Nothing good.
Sorry.
That's all I got.
I'm unprepared, woefully unprepared for this.
I'm sorry.
Okay, well let's play minus if there's anything here that's worth a crap.
Okay.
Let's start with saga.
And so the saga continues.
Huh?
Better than anything I got.
Yeah, what's your next one?
Sexism.
Oh.
This is blatant sexism.
That fits a little more with our show.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And the third one?
The rain.
The rain, Ginny, is coming back.
No.
No, no.
This is... This is blatant sexism.
That's us.
I mean, that's who we are.
I'll let it go.
I mean... I'm good with it.
I mean, that whole vasectomy segment?
That was sexism.
Well, I got a clip to follow on the vasectomy segment.
I thought people should at least hear this.
Okay, what do you got?
Because they're talking about it here, too.
Uh-oh.
This is the clip, China, S. Korea, Japan, birth rates.
China, Japan, and now South Korea.
All these nations are setting new records for low fertility.
The demographic issue has become a growing policy concern throughout much of East Asia, where shrinking and aging populations are fueling labor shortages.
Fewer than 250,000 babies were born in South Korea in 2022.
Officials say, on average, a woman now gives birth to 0.78 children in her lifetime.
That's the lowest fertility rate in the OECD.
Policymakers point to a shift in the role of women in South Korean society.
Many are waiting both to get married and to have children.
The government is concerned, and it's creating new incentives for couples to expand their families, including help to get women back to work post-birth and more affordable housing.
While South Korea is not alone in seeing a low birth rate as a threat to its survival.
Japanese Prime Minister Kishida Fumio says the issue has put Japan's social support system on the verge of collapse.
And Chinese experts worry it'll put the brakes on Beijing's economic growth.
Well, this takes me right back to the former New York banker, what he said.
He said, we win.
We win over everybody as long as we have more people in America.
And the way we do that is just open the borders.
That's how you win.
That apparently is all that counts.
China, Japan, South Korea, they can't keep up.
They have no borders to let people into.
Well, there is that.
Yeah.
I'm reminded, you know, that one of the things that was in that little laundry list of what would maybe help was the get women back to work.
And I think maybe it's just the opposite.
Because if you look at the elites, the women, the women are, they do a lot, but they don't have jobs.
Like, look at, what was it, Eunice Kennedy, Robert Kennedy's wife, had like eight kids.
How many kids did Robert Kennedy have?
Yeah, something like that.
The elites are reproducing like that, and they don't make their, I mean, she does work, the work is raising eight kids, along with charity work.
This is blatant sexism.
Yeah, there you go, I got my sexism little handle right there, I'm in business.
You know, um, you know C-Mike?
C-Mike sent me, you may have gotten it too, we got his Christmas letter and his pic, yeah, eight kids!
Actually nine, one is in heaven, but eight kids!
And like, go C-Mike!
I think that, I agree!
We should be making our own kids!
Lots of them!
Yeah, I think I do have some other stuff if you want to play or we'll be done.
I have something very important to play and it's a warning.
It's a warning, it's a warning, it's a warning.
Now as a celebrity in years gone by...
It's a washed-up podcast.
It's a washed-up VJ with Tourette's Syndrome.
Back in the day, you know, you could ask for stuff.
Reality shows, all kinds of stuff, you know.
Sometimes it's one of those shows where they ask everyone the same 50 questions and they package it into a special Like best songs of the 80s, you know And then you'll have little blip blips of little clips of people and other times a little more long-form show and I want to warn against Participating in shows that could surprise you for instance And I saw this happen in the UK.
I think it started in the UK this show and now it's it probably is maybe a BBC show That's why PBS has it now here.
It's called On a second, what is it called?
It's called Find Your Roots.
And what they do is, so you're a celebrity, and then they're going to trace your roots, and it always winds up like this.
Your ancestors were slave owners!
I mean, this always happens.
Yes, this is true.
I watch it.
This guy Gates, this black guy Gates does it on PBS.
Henry Gates Jr., I think.
Henry Gates.
It was always everybody was a slave owner.
Well, they flipped the script!
They flipped the script.
And here's a snippet of PBS's Finding Your Roots.
And the celebrity in this case was Angela Davis.
Angela Davis, an admitted Marxist.
Angela Davis, who teaches people about the slavery of our country and how we are horrible people.
And here's the payoff.
Any idea what you're looking at?
That is a list of the passengers on the Mayflower.
No.
I can't believe this.
No.
My ancestors did not come here on the Mayflower.
Your ancestors came on the Mayflower.
No, no, no.
You are descended from one of the 101 people who sailed on the Mayflower.
One of the 101 people who sailed on the Mayflower.
Oof.
That's a little bit too much to deal with right now.
Did you ever, in your wildest dreams, think that you may have descended from people who laid... Never.
...the foundation... Never.
...for this country?
Never.
Whoa!
You got butt-slammed!
I mean, that is unbelievable.
A, that they do that to her, but that they broadcast it!
I mean, isn't that just crazy?
It is crazy.
I mean, all the things she said about slavery, and her ancestors came over on the Mayflower and participated actively in slavery.
Obviously.
Oh, goodness.
Let this be a warning to all of you celebrities, or influencers, or whatever you're called out there.
Influencers.
Let me see if I had anything else.
Oh yes, this is probably worth mentioning.
Since, I don't know, it may... I think...
When it comes to an example of, if there's a country where everyone can point to and say, oh, you know, they should have not, they should have listened, they should have stayed in the EU, you know, yeah, that Brexit, yeah, big mistake, now you're all going to die.
Yes, well, in an independent act of frontline journalism, your cameraman here, Matt Simons, and myself went to the Tesco's Behind us, and yes, they have no tomatoes and they're blaming adverse weather.
So what's it all about?
Well, primarily just that.
A run of unusually cold weather in southern Spain and North Africa.
Tunisia right across to Egypt, where at this time of the year the UK can get up to 95% of its requirements of certain lines of vegetables.
Smartovirus in North Africa adding into that.
Second, the energy crisis.
We do use growers in the Netherlands quite intensively this time of year.
They've decided it's too expensive because of electricity prices.
You don't just have to heat up the greenhouses, of course, you have light at these short hours of daylight as well.
It's too much, they're not doing it.
Then look at what the NFU was saying just in its conference the last few days, that the amount of vegetables that we're growing under glass is at its lowest level, certainly in some lines, minuet bat, as the NFU leader said, since 1985 when records began.
Yes, it'll get better.
There's a thing called spring coming on.
British grows will kick in.
It is temporary, but maybe forgo a few cucumbers, tomatoes, and some lettuces and peppers for the time being.
So basically there's a shortage of fruit and veg in the UK, and people are kind of freaking out.
There's no vegetables and the shortage of food.
Well, whether they're Brexited out or not, it's still going to be the shortage.
Of course not.
Of course, but that's just being used now.
Oh, you shouldn't have Brexited.
You know, we have a cold snap out here, which is another, you know, where's the global warming?
But up in Port Angeles, they've had something which is really cold.
There was a first, and I never heard of this, and it's never happened before.
We've had a place up there forever.
Straight affects snow.
Straight affect snow?
It's like lake affects snow, but it's from the Straits of Juan de Fuca.
Which is the northern part, there's that area between Canada and the United States, between Port Angeles and Victoria, Canada, that's the Straits of Juan de Fuca, and the snow is being formed off the lake, just like, off the Straits, just like lake effect snow, and it produces this, which I've experienced once, I was in Cleveland by coincidence, and they had lake effect snow, and they're producing lake effect snow in Washington now!
At least that's what they're calling it.
Who knows?
Who knows?
I gotta get this one out too.
Have you seen Laura Baron Lopez?
No.
She is the new hot shit reporter at the PBS NewsHour.
I've probably seen her then.
Oh man, she's the total perfect multi-culti girl.
Yeah, when you can't identify them.
Well, I mean, the name gives it away.
Well, the name does, but you can run into, you know, Soledad O'Brien, for example, is a good example.
What is she?
Well, I think she's Mexican, a Mexican-American.
Laura Barón López.
She's young.
She comes from Politico.
She really, you know, she came out of school into Politico.
Now she is, I think they're calling her Judy's replacement.
Which seems a bit odd.
Oh, that's the girl that's always... I've probably seen... She's the one who does the... She's been doing Judy's replacement job for quite a while, the same person.
With the curly long hair?
No, this can't be her.
Maybe she's replacing someone.
I'm sure it's the same one.
Who else is out?
What's her name?
Oh, I'm sorry, she's the White House correspondent for PBS NewsHour.
Okay, the White House correspondent.
How do you spell it?
Baron, B-A-R-O-N, dash Lopez.
Laura Baron Lopez.
And cute smile!
Oh, I've seen this girl, yeah.
So, but she's also a pundit for CNN.
And so... She's on a roll.
Yeah and you know so here what happened it was a huge upset in journalism land because Kevin McCarthy has given Tucker Carlson 40,000 hours of January 6th tapes.
And this, of course, is an outrage!
He didn't give it to the people!
No, he gave it to Tucker Carlson!
Another topic of outrage podcasting.
Exactly.
Everybody's going on and on about who cares.
Let's see what they come up with.
Kevin McCarthy is giving Fox's Tucker Carlson access to tens of thousands of hours of January 6th security footage.
Your tax dollars paid for most of the cameras that captured the scene inside and around the Capitol that day.
But Speaker McCarthy is granting access only Only to Carlson and to Fox.
Carlson is a frequent McCarthy critic who says the speaker has no ideological core.
Carlson also repeatedly spreads conspiracies about the attack, suggesting it was orchestrated somehow by the deep state, the FBI, not the pro-Trump mob, as we all witnessed.
Our reporters are back around the table.
Why?
Well, I think we have to ask, you know.
So this is her.
We have to look at Tucker Carlson and the fact that Tucker Carlson is one of the leading propagandists on Fox and that he has lied about the January 6th insurrection repeatedly, has lied about the 2020 election, and the fact that this comes on the heels of And so is it?
showing that Tucker Carlson knew that those were lies about election fraud that Trump was doing around the 2020 election, still decided to go on air and talk about it.
And McCarthy knows that, and he's deciding to hand it over to someone who is going to filter the message anyway.
And so is it?
Is it then simply raw politics?
But wait, there's more people sitting around this table.
These are all high-level correspondents for CNN.
Kevin McCarthy has only a four-seat majority.
Kevin McCarthy could be recalled, essentially, by his members at any moment.
One of his sharpest critics happened to be one of the most popular programs among the mega-base.
Mega-base?
And Kevin McCarthy is saying, Tucker, if I give you these tapes, stop saying this.
McCarthy is not especially conservative.
He's, in fact, ideologically agnostic.
First, release the January 6th files.
Not some of the January 6th files and video.
All of it.
And there's worse than that.
He says he's not really a conservative.
He's agnostic.
He flaps with the breeze.
He has said worse.
Is that simply what this is?
Maybe if I give this to you, you'll be nice to me?
Well, I think the answer to your question is yes.
Oh, you missed it.
Listen to this multi-culti girl giggle in the background.
This guy says, oh, clearly that's a quid pro quo!
Worse than that.
I mean, he said he's not really a conservative.
He's agnostic.
He flaps with the breeze.
He has said worse.
Is that simply what this is?
Maybe if I give this to you, you'll be nice to me?
Well, I think the answer to your question is yes.
And it seems pretty transparent.
Yes, sir!
Yes!
Yes!
Hee hee hee hee!
There you go, people.
That's why we're here.
Not to bring you outrage, but to laugh at stupid people.
That's why we're really here.
Should we call it a day?
I think we better.
Okay.
Alright.
We have so much work to do.
Our post-production.
Gotta fix all of the things we said wrong.
Gotta edit it out.
Gotta make you sound a little more ballsy.
Takes me hours to do all that stuff.
I can get closer to the mic.
That'll help.
We have end of show mixes coming up.
Let me see who we have.
We've got Matty J, Mr. Information is back, Sir Michael Anthony, and Steve... No, not Steve Jones.
We cut him out.
Oh, Leo LaPuke, that's right.
Sorry, Steve.
You got vetoed.
Coming up next on No Agenda Stream, we got Hog Story number 340, Submarine Scorpio is the title of that.
Fletcher and the crew.
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6 in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Sunday right here with another hours and hours and hours long of your media deconstruction.
And until then, adios mo foes, a hooey, hooey, and such.
Back in the day, the doctor would say, do no harm. the doctor would say, do no harm.
Now they're sick, sick, quick to stick a prick in your arm.
Be quiet, just try it, no need for alarm.
The real starts to feel like an animal farm.
See the big wig pigs, they laugh because they're almost close to replacing cash with drugs.
No meat for the sheep.
Just grass and bugs.
But dogs gotta eat.
So pass the bone.
We're not alone.
But try to tell that to the drones.
They'll say that you're crazier than Leon Jones.
For rationing gas.
It's happening fast.
The time's passing.
Unmasking the sinister side of high fashion.
I'll try to have compassion, to live and let live, but refuse till these ghouls stop pimpin' the kids.
Used to booze like Toulouse, said to move on Rouge, now these dudes look like Swayze and too long poo.
Shoot, might be crazy, but I don't think you can change genders and turn to a six from a two.
Why does the media push sex and violence?
Why do they deride the humanity inside us and hide us from the truth with the news?
Shit is ruthless, produce clueless humans who conclude meditation is useless.
But you never met a Buddhist that would shoot kids, medications, students on computers, losing the youth.
Kids Snapchatting nudes.
Reducing the potential of their future.
Dropping faster than team ballers.
Getting boosters, psych meds.
Living life through a screen.
Fat tweens, Oz Antibars, vaccines.
TikTok, ThoughtStance, Big Tech schemes.
The long-term effects remain to be seen.
What's up, New York City?
This is your mayor, up on Staten Island, where we just had a visit from Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
And you know I had to throw some shade on Twitter.
Well, Governor, I hope you enjoyed your visit to New York City.
A place where our school libraries is rated X. A place where everybody is either a victim or an oppressor.
A place where we invite all immigrants and then complain when they show up.
A place where a human being ain't nothing but a clump of cells.
So you going back down to Florida now, you heard?
Alright, New York City, I'mma see y'all later.
Stay woke.
And I'll say that there are no major plot twists waiting for you.
How's the girl?
We are now hearing from someone who was inside the grand jury that investigated the election crimes of Donald Trump.
That's not the way I expected this to go at all.
Potentially, it might.
That was really cool for me.
Yes.
I would say that.
I don't think that they're any like... Especially if they've been following the investigation.
I am sure!
That was pretty much that.
Okay, we're good.
Bye.
They're doing Satan worship right in front of her, throwing it in their face?
Yes!
At the beginning, they come from the sky.
She is at the top of the pyramid in the red dress.
She is the Red Queen.
Everyone knows this is the Red Queen.
This is the devil.
Yeah.
She's pregnant with the Antichrist, of course.
Yeah, the throne.
You didn't see that?
Well, let me break it down for you because I saw it right away.
So you think... In her red dress, Sam Smith, Rihanna, Heaven forbid, Bizzo, everybody's in red.
Yeah.
She's thrown the Illuminati triangle.
Satan worship.
Wait a minute.
Illuminati bull crap.
It was just dumb.
I mean, like I said, I just thought it was lousy, but it was boring.
That's what I have.
That's what I watch for.
This is what you watch for and this is why everyone thinks you're great.
This is all Satan worship.
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