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	You're gonna kill the old man, Bill.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, September 29th, 2022.
	This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media Assassination Episode 1490.
	This is no agenda.
	Trackin' pipe globally and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's beautiful, I'm John C. DeVorek.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	How beautiful is it?
	Seems to be raining in Florida.
	Oh goodness.
	Did they write that for you?
	Did you pay ten dollars for that one?
	What?
	For that joke.
	Seems to be raining in Florida.
	That was a joke?
	Oh come on.
	It's a fact.
	Alrighty then.
	Yeah.
	How convenient is this thing?
	I mean, very inconvenient for people.
	Tina knows a lot of people.
	In Fort Myers, they went through a very difficult time.
	Well, Fort Myers got swacked.
	Hammered.
	Absolutely hammered.
	Hammered.
	Hammered.
	No, it really did.
	No, it did.
	It got hammered.
	So, you know, I talked to Tina whenever this happens, and she's lived through Cat 2, I think, or maybe a Cat 3, but never a Cat 5.
	And she said, besides the terrifying howling, like you're in a freight train in your house.
	Yeah, the noise is bad.
	It's really, really bad.
	The aftermath is the problem.
	She says, you know, guaranteed there's a week.
	First of all, there are people dead.
	You know, this is a massive day wrecker.
	Then there's a week of no electricity.
	Everyone's got generators running.
	It's just this constant generator noise.
	Your house starts to get all moldy and smell like it's rotting away.
	It's bad.
	It's bad.
	It stinks.
	And of course this was a once-in-a-500-year event.
	Uh-huh.
	Sure.
	How convenient.
	First, we can knock off the news of the pipeline sabotage.
	I don't think that's listened much.
	It's always handy to have.
	Here, yeah, maybe.
	Well, it's about here.
	We don't care.
	Let's face it.
	What difference does it make to us?
	Do you think that Florida will have infrastructure back up and running in time for the midterm elections?
	With this devastating... Okay.
	I thought it was... I didn't clip it.
	I heard it.
	Tina was watching The Five.
	On Fox.
	And I heard, you know, they always have a token Democrat.
	Sometimes it's Geraldo, sometimes it's a former senator.
	It's like the CNN token Republicans.
	Totally.
	Well, CNN doesn't even do token Republicans.
	Well, they used to.
	So they have this Jessica lady, and I gotta hand it to her, she holds herself up pretty well against, you know, the obvious scorn and deserved.
	But she said something, she said, and she was, they were interviewing Marco Rubio.
	Rubio's always in on games everywhere, so I don't trust him.
	And she asked, what about the nursing homes?
	How are the nursing homes?
	And it just struck me for that moment, like, are we going to try and draw a comparison with Cuomo and with DeSantis, if people in the nursing homes die?
	You know what I mean?
	I just felt like that was already the spin that she was trying to put on it.
	TV sucks.
	Hey, but we're supposed to deconstruct it, so I'm just trying to figure out where are we, where are we going with this?
	Well, I can't come up with anything.
	I don't even know if I have any clips.
	I may have one wrap-up clip on the hurricane, do I?
	Well, I have a couple clips.
	Well, let's play them and get that out of the way.
	Let's go to Bill Weir at CNN.
	Now, usually when there's an event like this, we'll do a mock report and let everyone know how phony this is.
	But these guys were actually in bad wind.
	The wind was not phony.
	But the fact that they're doing it, it's so stupid.
	Oh, look, it's windy.
	It's windy.
	Oh, I'm hongling to a pipe, to a stop sign.
	Oh, it's windy.
	It's windy.
	It's just always windy.
	Oh, I put a condom on my microphone because it's windy, windy, windy.
	Oh, this is a viral clip.
	She put a condom on the microphone.
	That's the stupidity that distracts from the pipeline wars.
	Anyway, Bill Weir, who I think used to be a sports guy, or is a sports guy, is out there and he does the inevitable.
	Uh, Ian is coming.
	Ian's here.
	John, we just felt a marked increase in wind speeds within the last 10 minutes or so.
	We were riding about 40, 50 miles an hour.
	It's hard to fathom that speed tripling in the next few hours, but we're now getting maybe 70 mile an hour gusts here.
	We're right at the point where US 43 heads across the Peace River here.
	I'm just in front of the memorial for Hurricane Charlie, which in 2004 devastated this town and sent a wake-up call to this community about the threats of living on the coast in a rapidly warming planet uh as a result of that storm they're the first community in florida to put in a climate adaptation plan a sea level coastal resiliency plan that they're you know have been working on for years now and this will be the test
	it's hard to build power lines or building codes for 17 foot storm surge though that's the - Crazy variable here right now.
	No one has ever seen that, so we don't know what that looks like.
	But this is exactly what climate scientists have been warning about for a long time, and now we get to see it up close.
	John?
	Oh, man.
	When did climate become weather all of a sudden?
	Oh, when it's convenient.
	Oh, let's ask the weatherman on CNN and let's just pretend we're Don Lemon.
	Can you tell us what this is and what effect climate change has on this phenomenon?
	We can come back and talk about climate change at a later time.
	I want to focus on the here and now.
	We think the rapid intensification is probably almost done.
	There could be a little bit more intensification as it's still over the warm waters of the eastern Gulf of Mexico.
	Mexico, but I don't think we're going to get any more rapid intensification.
	If you look here, you can actually see, pretty interesting for your viewers, you can actually see a second eye wall forming around the inner eye wall, and that's basically the second eye wall has overtaken the original eye wall, and that should arrest development.
	Try it now.
	Listen, I'm just trying to get that you said you want to talk about climate change, but what effect does climate change have on this phenomenon that is happening now?
	Because it seems these storms are intensifying.
	That's the question.
	I don't think you can link climate change to any one event.
	On the whole, on the cumulative, climate change may be making storms worse, but to link it to any one event, I would caution against that.
	Okay, listen, I grew up there, and these storms are intensifying.
	Something is causing them to intensify.
	I grew up there, they're intensifying, something's causing it.
	It's gotta be climate change.
	By the way, there was actual audio from the control room.
	I like it.
	And there's this odd clip which is kind of misplaced, but I'm not sure what it is.
	I'd never heard of it.
	The Waffle House Index?
	Have you ever heard of the Waffle House Index?
	No.
	So I don't know if this is a native ad.
	I can't imagine Waffle House is jumping in on it, other than maybe they're really trying to be a communications mechanism.
	Finally, the people who gauge a hurricane's threat in a very unique way.
	They call it the Waffle House Index.
	Aye, bruh, it's a Category 3.
	Man, listen, it ain't nothin' to worry about.
	What you worryin' for?
	This morning, some people in Ian's path are using an unlikely guide to decide whether they should weather the storm.
	Better wipe out clothes.
	Hey, but let's get out of here, cuz we all know, bruh, the Waffle House don't close, bruh.
	The so-called Waffle House Index is a tried-and-true test for how serious a storm could be.
	And in Florida, at least 21 Waffle Houses have closed up shop as cities across the state are pummeled by Ian.
	They almost never close, but you can see they're closed.
	They even shuttered up the windows.
	The color-coded system was created by FEMA and is a simple way to visualize how hard the area will get hit.
	Green means the restaurant is fully operational, yellow means it's offering a limited menu, and red means closed.
	The government looks to Waffle House as a role model.
	Honestly, that explains a lot that's going on.
	And for a company that prides itself on staying open...
	How about that for a little insert, huh?
	Well, that explains what's going on.
	The government looks to Waffle House as a role model.
	Honestly, that explains a lot that's going on.
	And for a company that prides itself on staying open come rain or shine or hurricane strength winds, closing is a big deal.
	Waffle House has an emergency protocol better than anyone else.
	Even though the index isn't meant to be a serious tool for deciding whether or not to evacuate, the Waffle House CEO says that it can be a way to see how well an area is recovering after the storm.
	If we are on a limited menu, then you know there's some limited resources.
	If we are closed, then you know it's pretty serious.
	But if we're open, you know the community's coming back.
	And that's the most important thing after a storm, is to get that sense of normalcy.
	We made it through the storm, and now we're getting back on our feet.
	Now, is this a Native ad?
	Native ad, or is it ABC setting up DeSantis so everyone can say, Oh man, they're so stupid!
	They used the Waffle House Index!
	That's why people are dead!
	I'm just looking for the political angle.
	It's there somewhere.
	It's too premature for that.
	And besides that, there's money to be made.
	Yeah, there's a lot of money to be made.
	I always think the money to be made is always going to take precedent over the political angle by these networks.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's definitely money to be made.
	For sure.
	Yeah, Waffle House gets a nice boost.
	Yeah.
	And everybody gets free meals there for the next few months.
	The guy did the report for sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Do you have anything?
	Well, this storm, like the rest of them, will blow over.
	Aye, aye, aye.
	How come you're not on mainstream with those jokes?
	You're really, you're fit for it.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Do you have anything on the pipelines?
	Because I would like to breeze through that briefly.
	Let me look.
	This is, after all, my beat.
	It's your thing, yeah.
	That's why I didn't get anything.
	Did I even get a... No, I didn't get any pipeline stuff.
	Retweeted a tweet that I tweeted, twatted, in 2013.
	I forget exactly what the... I was replying to someone.
	I said, nah, you're wrong.
	It's all about pipelines.
	All about the pipelines.
	And here we are.
	This is very interesting, and I think I certainly missed it.
	Now I understand there's three pipelines.
	Yes, yes.
	And the last one is the one that's kind of not paying as much attention to, which is the one that's important, which is the new Baltic one, which comes from Norway.
	Yes.
	Let me take you through it first.
	CBS Evening News.
	Tonight, European leaders are accusing Russia of sabotaging two underwater gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea.
	Ukraine is calling it a terrorist attack.
	Authorities are investigating the leaks in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, a vital source of natural gas for Europe.
	There was a sudden drop in pressure on Monday.
	Video shows bubbles where the leaks occurred after underwater explosions were detected.
	I love it.
	Why are they not using the words?
	Why aren't they using the words false flag?
	They use that all throughout the beginning of the Ukraine conflict war.
	And now they have the perfect opportunity to say false flag and they're not doing it.
	I mean they're saying the same thing.
	Russia must have done that because that makes nothing but sense.
	It makes no sense.
	Of course it doesn't make any sense, but now I'm missing the false flag moniker, which is just not throwing in there for some reason.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	It's nothing like a false flag.
	No, no, no.
	I understand that.
	But if you recall, when this kicked off in Ukraine, the main thing was, Putin's going to do a false flag, Putin's going to do a false, he's going to do a false flag, false flag, false flag.
	Don't you remember that?
	No, actually I don't.
	It was over and over again.
	That's why... Okay, let's see if I... I might even have a supercard out of it.
	Give us a clip.
	Give us a clip.
	Remind me.
	Newland.
	It is Russia that has prepared internal sabotage, destabilization, and false flag options for Ukraine.
	You remember now?
	Oh, Newland.
	You want a longer clip?
	Let's talk about operations within Ukraine.
	We've heard today that this idea of a false flag operation.
	Russia looking for a pretext to war.
	They want an excuse to invade, so you say.
	Well, this is straight out of the Russian playbook to try to... That's what I remember.
	...through sabotage operations, through false flag operations.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You got me.
	I'm not unconvinced that this was going on.
	But those are all spokes holes for the government.
	You're playing clips now that are from news guys.
	News people don't do that.
	Okay, we may have clips of false flag... Okay.
	Anyway, I've heard no one use the term.
	That's just interesting because they... Why don't they say, this is the playbook!
	How about that?
	Forget false flag.
	This is the playbook!
	Destroy their own infrastructure!
	Blame it on Ukraine!
	Go attack Kiev!
	Well, I have my thinking on this.
	Well, hold on.
	First we do the cover story, which is beautiful.
	Everything was timed.
	This was meant to happen with this news popping the next day or two.
	In a move that Europe hopes will ease its energy crisis, leaders have inaugurated a new pipeline delivering gas from Norway to Poland.
	The Polish Prime Minister was joined by counterparts from Denmark and Norway, as well as EU representatives.
	It comes at a convenient time, as Europe is trying desperately to find new energy sources and after Denmark and Sweden's discovery of a massive leak on the Nord Stream Pipeline.
	Today we are entering a new era.
	An era of energy sovereignty, of energy freedom and of enhanced security.
	One of energy security and also of security in the broader sense of the word.
	This completion comes at a time of Russia's brutal war against Ukraine and Russia's manipulation of gas supplies to destabilize our energy market and our economies.
	So today, we, in Europe, together, are sending a powerful message that Russia will not succeed.
	The project, which has been completed ahead of time, is an extension of an existing pipeline that will benefit mainly Poland, but also neighboring states.
	I don't think this pipeline is big enough to give Europe what they need.
	It seems to be okay.
	But I think this is cover.
	And all these clips of Newland and Biden saying, well, you know, if they invade Ukraine, there will be no Nord Stream 2.
	Am I mistaken in the memory that Nord Stream 2 didn't actually get, I mean, it got completed, but they never put anything through it ever?
	Well, I was just listening to a clip on some, uh, well, going through clips about how they, I think it was Newland said they're never going to finish this thing.
	We're just never going to get approved.
	Just never going to get turned on.
	Um, right.
	But, but, but I mean, the framing seems so perfect.
	It's too perfect.
	It's too perfect to play in the US.
	There's a lot of crazy information missing.
	One, First of all, they had the tax on the two pipelines.
	Neither one is really operational.
	The other one had the turbine problem and Canada won't fix it.
	So it wasn't doing anything.
	It was 30%.
	Okay, so they're running at low capacity.
	So there's stuff running through it.
	I don't know that Nord Stream 2 ever had anything running through it that's unclear.
	The other thing that's unclear is that now this morning's reports make it sound as if all three of the pipelines, the Baltic one coming in from Norway and the other two, were all struck at the same time.
	But the reports for the two Nord Stream pipes came in and then the other one came in as an afterthought sometime later.
	Like it was struck in some other incident, but they've now put it together to make it sound like it all happened at once.
	This is very poor reporting.
	It is.
	They don't have the guys who can go in there and dig around anymore, because they're too busy sipping cappuccino, or I don't know what they're doing with their time.
	Well, in June... Or they don't have the money.
	The resources have been pulled from... Ever since these large corporations... This is my taking the side of the news organizations.
	Really?
	They took so much money away from these guys that the bureaus don't have as much, you know, they used to have just tons of money to give these guys and they could go out and do their own thing for six months and not report anything and then get a complete story and they don't have any of this going on anymore.
	It's just like sloppy, word of mouth, what did somebody tweet?
	Let's report that.
	Maybe that'll mean something.
	That always helps.
	It's laws and they're all political.
	It's the only ones that can stick around for that kind of music.
	And would you consider at all that maybe the news media is being directed not to go in certain places?
	Certainly you can imagine that.
	So here's another piece of the puzzle.
	NATO, in, when was this, June 14th, held BALTOPS, the Baltic Sea Operation, with the US Navy 6th Fleet, and they were experimenting with explosives and ordnance removal of The coast of Bornholm, Denmark, so the exact same spot.
	It all makes so much sense that I'm thinking, well, who benefits?
	It can't be this, I mean, this thing from Norway, and we have a, you know, our intelligence apparatus has a very tight relationship with Norway.
	They got a big spy station up there.
	I don't know if it's ours or they're running it for us.
	So Norway will do anything.
	And okay, this was on its way.
	They finished it a little bit early.
	I don't know if it's actually pumping or not.
	But there's one thing we forgot about.
	There's one pipeline that we have looked at for Well, eight or nine years, and this is not coming up in the conversation.
	That's the EastMed pipeline.
	And this East Med pipeline is the one that the natural gas is off the coast of Israel and disputed area of Palestine.
	They've done their deal.
	They figured it out.
	This is noble energy.
	This is how it was the other one.
	Is the pipeline in play?
	Cyprus, I think.
	Yes, yes, it's in play.
	Of course it is.
	And not just through.
	Well, actually, they're they're throwing it through through Greece.
	I don't know if that part is completed but I think this is what has this has to do with a lot of Italy as well because it's supposed to go from Greece to Italy which puts Queen Ursula's comments about Georgia what's her name Maroni Maloney in a little different context you know so maybe Italy now has power Georgia maybe maybe Italy has some power I mean and it would make sense
	We benefit, but would we really do that with all this evidence, all of these sound bites, all these clips?
	Or did we have Mossad do it, since they benefit also?
	No one has mentioned Mossad.
	Isn't that what these guys do best?
	And Mossad never gets mentioned.
	Well, I'm thinking they did this.
	Well, I don't know that Mossad's that good with... I mean, the people that are the best probably at underwater demolitions, I would suspect, is the U.S.
	Navy SEALs.
	You would think.
	But we have a couple of them who are producers, so they'll give us their thoughts on it.
	But the benefactor of this is us, no matter what.
	We win.
	We're a benefactor no matter what.
	We would be, I think, a benefactor anyway, so what's the point of making, you know... That's why we didn't do it.
	I don't think we did it.
	I don't think we have the finesse anymore.
	Well, there you go.
	You've got the finesse.
	I have some clips coming later in the show that will kind of indicate this and let me do my rants.
	Last clip on this is from Darren Beattie.
	I think he's the editor of Revolver, which I think is pretty good.
	And he has some thoughts.
	Well, just he has interesting thoughts.
	The soft power is out.
	We're down to kinetic here.
	Kinetic economic warfare.
	And both Nord Stream pipelines have sustained severe physical damage, which according to reports will make them inoperable for the foreseeable future.
	All governments that have commented on this have said that this is an act of sabotage.
	And so the question is, who benefits from this?
	Now, of course, US and NATO aligned organs are saying that somehow the Russians did this without any explanation about why that would be so.
	But as you point out, one political official from Poland who happens to be married to Anne Applebaum, who is a really a kind of royalty belonging to this Atlanticist establishment.
	Incidentally, she was part of the Integrity Initiative, this secret influence operation group designed to condemn Russia and sabotage the pipeline.
	He was sort of mask off, had a mask off moment on Twitter when he actually thanked the United States and showed a picture of this big disturbance in the water where the, where the pipeline was and, you know, suggesting, okay, this is the work of the United States.
	Your girl and Applebaum.
	So this would be a distraction.
	Yeah.
	False accusation.
	Yeah.
	For a purpose.
	So you don't do that unless you have to kind of now deconcert what the purpose might be.
	Why would you blame us?
	And I think you're correct.
	There's no reason for us to do it even though we had the skills to do it.
	Because we are, you know, we're gonna, we don't, it's really not For one thing, it's a crime against humanity.
	For sure.
	And even though I think we do a few of those, I don't think this is one of them.
	So, why would you then... and the Polish... I don't know.
	You know, this gets so damn thick with these spooks and phonies and double dealers and everybody in between.
	How about this?
	How about this?
	We give the allu—no one's ever going to address this.
	We're never going to say, yeah, we did it.
	We're not even going to wink—it will kind of be almost a wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	All the evidence is there, and Applebaum is making sure that we're all—that, you know, and her husband, that we're all kind of assuming, well, you know, hey, Putin had it coming, you know, we kind of did that, and it'll just go away.
	Then we can cyberhack an electric grid.
	We can blow up a pipeline here.
	This is the actual fault.
	Maybe that's why they're not saying false flag.
	Maybe this is the setup.
	It is a false flag.
	Yes, here's Russia retaliating for something that we didn't do, but everyone thought we did.
	I mean, it's elaborate, but it's only two steps.
	I think they can handle it.
	Elaborate, yeah.
	Asking for trouble.
	Well, the Apple bomb thing is what got me.
	Yeah, it's Ann Applebaum.
	Where'd she come in in the picture before?
	I don't remember.
	You had clips.
	It was your clips.
	Yeah, I had a bunch of clips of her.
	What was that?
	What was the point?
	Okay, let me see what the point was.
	Uh, NPR propaganda.
	Ann Applebaum.
	Should we listen again, since we're here?
	Yeah, let's play this.
	It turned out Anne Applebaum, the Pulitzer Prize-winning historian, has written about the current rise of populist authoritarian regimes around the world.
	She's authored the introduction to the new Folio Society edition of Hannah Arendt's post-World War II classic, The Origins of Totalitarianism.
	That may seem especially resonant during these times of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Chinese mass detention centers, and the insurrection of January 6, 2021.
	Proof it's your clip!
	How about Ann Applebaum on social media?
	Actually there's a lot of evidence that the kind of connection that you get from social media only makes you feel more lonely and isolated.
	You know people talk about being on social media And feeling afterwards worse about themselves, worse about their relationships.
	And one of the things she writes about in her book is the way in which autocrats use loneliness.
	So they separate people from one another, and that then makes it easier to dominate them.
	Because, you know, when people aren't able to act together, when they're not active, when they're not participants in society, then they can't push back.
	They can't even think about the nature of the political reality that they live in.
	So what would the Ask Adam have been?
	I have no idea.
	Well, here's the answer.
	And does it make us vulnerable to misinformation?
	Okay.
	Anyway, I don't know why I played those.
	Well, I'm glad you did.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I like some of these old clips.
	They remind us that this crap's been going on, it's under the surface, and it's got all kinds of bad actors every which way, everywhere.
	Apple has removed Russia's largest social network from the App Store in order to be compliant with Candidavia.
	It sounds sketchy.
	It had nothing to do with our people telling me to do that.
	Wait, was it Scandinavia or was it Australia?
	Let me see what it was.
	No, UK, I'm sorry.
	UK.
	Oh yeah, we always kowtow to whatever they want.
	Of course.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	Over in Russia, I understand the Russians call Ukraine Newlandistan.
	Makes sense.
	But here was the article that just, I mean, multiple articles, nothing big, but reporting that the Russian Central Bank and Ministry of Finance agree on using Bitcoin or other crypto, but they seem to be pretty focused on Bitcoin for settlements, for payment settlements.
	And this has popped up not just in Bitcoin news, but I haven't seen it in the New York Times, so I'm a little sketchy on what exactly they said.
	But it would fit with my theory, which is, hey, you either have to shut down your plant or burn off the gas unnecessarily, or you could put it to use and start mining Bitcoin.
	It's just wishful thinking on my part, but there's now news articles about it.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know how much they're going to have to burn off.
	They know it's just throwing money down the drain.
	But if you shut it down, remember, to start it back up... No, it's just throwing money down the drain.
	It's all throwing money down the drain.
	Well, that's why they could convert it into money.
	Well, I mean, they could.
	The amount of time it would take to set up shop to make it work, especially with just burning tons of gas, you'd never be able to harness all of it.
	No, no.
	But you can drop containers in.
	They're good to go.
	These things are good to go.
	You can drop them in and they know how to do it.
	The knowledge is there and they fire it up.
	Why don't you set that up?
	You know, holy Putin.
	Oh, hey man, I'm just saying that it's a possibility.
	You don't have to get all, you know, like... What is that?
	Are you 12 now?
	Yeah, I'm 12.
	Okay, well then play some of your clips.
	Well, I got a bunch of... We're gonna drop off the topic.
	I thought we were going in the direction of pipelines here.
	We just did.
	I did four clips on pipelines.
	More, more pipeline clips.
	Okay, I have a... Okay, I have some stuff here.
	I have Germany boots on the ground.
	about the pipelines.
	This is Andre, and he's looked through all the newspapers and he says... He's one of our guys?
	He's one of our guys, yeah.
	One of our producers.
	All the articles in the big papers state 100% certainty it's sabotage, mostly using flowery phrases like, our fantasy cannot come up anymore with a scenario where this is not a targeted attack.
	Blah blah.
	Additionally, most articles make sure to say there was already no gas flowing through, and now these mysterious leaks make it impossible to reopen the flow in the future.
	How convenient, as people and industry organizations here are on the streets protesting and demanding the reopening of the gas faucets.
	As for the identity of the saboteurs themselves, the article present multiple possibilities.
	One, a Russian, quote, false flag operation to further push the gas prices up.
	That doesn't make sense.
	No, because the gas price... No.
	That's not putting anything through now.
	Why would it do anything like that?
	Okay, go on.
	Another is Allies of Ukraine pointing out that with both Nord Stream pipelines broken, the gas route would have to go through Poland or Ukraine.
	There's your Poland.
	I like that one.
	I like that too.
	Finally, most news articles come with a mini-map showing the leaks are between the Polish coast and Bornem, Denmark.
	I could not verify the three supposed leaks are located in international waters or not.
	Now here's the bonus from the Süddeutsche Zeitung and some freely translated pearls from the article.
	The Deutsche Umwelthilfe demands renouncement of using Christmas lights this winter.
	It should be self-evident to renounce Christmas lights in cities, homes and apartments.
	Considering the war in Ukraine, the energy scarcity, but also for climate protection reasons, we should for once pause.
	Alone, these private lighting orgies cause a yearly energy consumption of over 600 million kilowatt hours.
	An idea for an alternative.
	Each shitty, each shitty, each city should only have one Christmas tree decorated with fairy lights!
	Fairy lights!
	To deliberately save energy and show solidarity.
	That could make this Christmas a very special one.
	Yeah, dork.
	So that's uh, that's the uh...
	I like that.
	That was a good report.
	He should give us more information as he goes along doing that exact same kind of analysis of the news.
	He also put in links and everything, so it's in the show notes.
	Good job, Andre.
	Good boots on the ground report, for sure.
	Okay, so now we can move on to some other stuff.
	Can we?
	I mean, I have Russia stuff.
	Well, I was going to take a break and do that because I have a bunch of these, which kind of coincides, it gets into Russia.
	But I did have a couple of what's wrong with these podcasts segments.
	And does that need to be done right now in our in our hot news break?
	Do you think this is an appropriate format change?
	Uh, you can argue me out of it, but then I can go, I can switch over to listening to Biden, who is as rare as Jackie.
	This, I think, is, for once, something we need to, uh, to discuss.
	What do you mean, for once?
	We discuss Biden constantly.
	No, we don't.
	Do you think this is really bad?
	We play it, yeah.
	Yeah, this, this is bad.
	Especially, uh, um, Oh, I got both.
	I got Jean-Pierre, Kareem Abdul.
	Kareem Abdul, Jean-Pierre Van Damme.
	So here's the damming clip.
	Where's Jackie?
	I don't think she wants to be here.
	Wow, why didn't you get the full clip?
	A little longer.
	Well... Because... In context, it's funnier.
	No, that is the sub-clip.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	You, you gave, that was the punchline clip you played.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	The clip that you want is Biden hunger meeting.
	I screwed it up, sorry.
	I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative Governor, Senator Braun, Senator Booker, Representative Jackie, are you here?
	Where's Jackie?
	I didn't think she was going to be here.
	To help make this a reality.
	Thanks to Senator Stabenow, Representative DeLauro for their leadership.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	The reason I had the sub-clip, because I wanted to play it after we played Jam, even though now I listened to that sub-clip, is he's so... They gave him no speedball.
	Nope, nope.
	They usually give him a speedball just before he... Half power, man.
	Half power they gave him this time.
	He didn't give me anything!
	You think it was zero?
	I think it was zero and no coffee.
	No, I think this was probably... They probably had already maxed him out and they had to pull back.
	You're going to kill the old man, Bill.
	OK, well, then we go on.
	Exactly.
	So this is Jean-Pierre's excuse because somebody asked her about what the hell is he doing here?
	And let's play this sub clip one more time, because it's very clear that and he's looking around.
	He says, where's Jackie?
	I thought she was supposed to be here.
	Play that one more time.
	Where's Jackie?
	I didn't think she was going to be here.
	So he says, where's Jack Dutcher's gonna be here?
	And that's what he said.
	Now, stop right there.
	In the main clip...
	Let's just listen to it again because this is, now, now it's pissing me off.
	In this main clip, listen to what he does.
	I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative Governor, Senator Braun, Senator Booker, Representative Jackie, are you here?
	Where's Jackie?
	Now why does he do that?
	Why does he, why does he, why doesn't he say, where's Cory Booker?
	Where's so-and-so?
	Is it because... Because they're right in front of him.
	Oh, like he's, like he wasn't looking at them, he's reading the prompter.
	Hmm.
	I thought it was weird that... Oh, you think it's a... Okay, well, now you bring in some... You bring in a couple of interesting points, especially the one that maybe he's being set up by whoever wrote the script.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes!
	And Karina... But I don't think he was reading... I, personally...
	I saw him read, I mean, he's reading away, and then he's also looking, because that's how I spotted that woman the other day when he saw her in the audience, if you remember.
	He was reading from the prompter and saw this old 12-year-old girlfriend of his.
	Yeah, but that was, okay.
	Yeah, okay.
	And he was reading from a prompter and then he saw her and he just glommed onto her.
	And so I think he's reading the prompter, but he knows these guys or they've seen him.
	He wants to know where Jackie is.
	And so as soon as he said Jackie, because he does this, he points and he looks at people and he doesn't stop.
	I'm going to look at the video real quick.
	I'm going to shut up.
	Let me look at the video.
	I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative... He's reading.
	He's reading.
	Senator Booker.
	Reading.
	Representative Jackie, are you here?
	Where's Jackie?
	The minute he says Representative Jackie, then he looks away.
	So he's reading something.
	And then, let me just see if it's the exact moment.
	It may be on the prompter.
	Representative Jackie, are you here?
	Where's Jackie?
	I don't know why he does that.
	The prompter's at the back of the room.
	He's staring at the back of the room with that giant prompter.
	If he, uh, if it was on the prompter, somebody would have reported it or taken a picture of the prompter.
	You would think?
	I would hope.
	Who the hell knows?
	Those guys, I mean, you notice... There may be, well, for all we know, there's no audience.
	Right?
	And notice that the guys who always sabotage this sound are gone too, are heroes.
	I got rid of those guys.
	So, we... Let's just assume that this was on the up and up and he was looking for Jackie and couldn't see her in the audience and went back to his spiel.
	That's hardly the same as this explanation from Jean-Pierre.
	What happened in the hunger event today?
	The president appeared to look around the room for an audience member, a member of Congress who passed away last month and seemed to indicate she might be in the room.
	So the president was, as you all know, you guys were watching today's event, a very important event on food insecurity.
	The president was naming the congressional champions on this issue and was acknowledging her incredible work.
	He had already planned to welcome Congresswoman's family to the White House on Friday.
	There will be a bill signing in her office.
	Where's Jackie?
	this coming Friday.
	So, of course, she was on his mind.
	She was of top of mind for the president.
	He looks very much, looks forward to discussing her remarkable legacy of public service with them when he sees family this coming Friday.
	He said, Jackie, are you here?
	Where's Jackie?
	She must not be here.
	I totally understand.
	I just...
	I just explained.
	She was on top of mind.
	What we were able to witness today and what the president was able to lift up at this conference, at this event, was how her focus on wanting to deal with, combat food insecurity in America.
	And this is something that he was lifting up and honoring.
	And again, he knows that he's going to see her family this coming Friday.
	There's a bill signing that's going to happen in renaming a VA clinic in Indiana after the late Congresswoman.
	He knows that he is going to see her family.
	And she was a top of mind.
	Yeah, what she's saying is he was confused.
	Top of mind.
	Now, you know, this is how bad this woman is.
	She's not a good representative.
	You could have handled it the following way.
	So what happened with Biden when he said, look, where's Jackie?
	What happened?
	He thought Jackie was going to be there.
	He forgot that she died.
	It's just it's not uncommon.
	The guy's pretty busy.
	He's like giving speech after speech after speech.
	You could tell he was kind of tired.
	Give the guy a break, will you?
	So, voila!
	Thank you for, again, putting my point up front.
	They're using this numbnut, Kareen Abdul-Jean-Pierre Van Damme, to bring down the president.
	Because she- you're absolutely right.
	Anyone- here!
	You!
	You would do better than she does!
	Anybody would do better than this woman.
	She's dumb!
	And they know it, and that's why she worked perfectly at MSNBC.
	I mean, she's great at regurgitating whatever she's told, and she's reading everything, and she has the, you know, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, same cadence.
	She's a robot.
	Well, her cadence is terrible.
	By the way, what are those plops in your clips?
	Did you make that or someone else?
	No, that's her cadence.
	No, no, there were plops in the clip.
	There were every... Oh, I don't know.
	I did nothing.
	I just clipped it straight up.
	Well, there's something wrong with your clipping machine.
	No, I just took it right... It was what it sounded like when it came across on C... There's a C-Span... Oh, that's how it sounds on C-Span?
	It was a C-Span clip that they posted, so I think they may have edited it.
	All right.
	No, I didn't say it's edited.
	It just... It sounded... There was popping in it.
	Really weird.
	Yeah, it was weird.
	I know.
	I wasn't going to take it out.
	But no, you might be...
	Taking it to that level, you might be right.
	She's just there to set him up by her own stupidity.
	I mean, you are so right.
	You are so right.
	The truth, the simple answer.
	Hey, you know, yeah, he was run ragged.
	It's a big day.
	It's a big hunger conference, you know, and he just, he just, he just, you know, he got confused.
	Slipped his mind.
	Oh, crap.
	You know, there was no recovering from that for him, so he just kept on going.
	The guy's tired.
	Sorry, he's been doing... Exactly what you said.
	And of course, it'd be, is he fit for the job?
	But now, now everyone knows he's not fit for the job, because they won't even admit that he got confused.
	It's called the senior moment.
	Well, it couldn't have been handled worse.
	Yeah!
	So, what up with that?
	Top of mind!
	Top of mind!
	What a top of mind!
	Oh, he's honoring her!
	Top of mind!
	Bull crap!
	Top of mind.
	We got a lot of dumb people in this Biden White House.
	Here is our Vice President, Kamala Harris, standing in the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea.
	So the United States Shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
	Why stop?
	Why stop?
	We need a warning.
	Her droning voice.
	You know, it's amazing how bad it is.
	The way she speaks with the kind of tone that's kind of weird.
	It's not monotone, but it's not modulating.
	And it's slow, like she's talking to a three-year-old.
	It's terrible.
	She's unbelievable.
	Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Trigger warning.
	Your attention please.
	Trigger warning has been activated.
	So the United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
	And it is an alliance that is strong and enduring.
	Had you seen this clip?
	Did you hear her obvious gaffe?
	Strong and enduring.
	No, no, you didn't hear it!
	No, no, I'm just saying the way she said it.
	No, I didn't because I'm still listening to her cadence and I've realized what it is.
	This is the cadence of a stoner.
	Yes!
	I've said it before.
	Yes, yes, yes, you are right.
	This is the first time, right there in the beginning, you hear that she's stoned.
	Now listen to what she says, John.
	She shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
	And it is an alliance that is strong and enduring.
	Did you hear it now?
	Yeah, she said we have an alliance with North Korea that's strong and enduring.
	She's stoned!
	Yes!
	Yes.
	But the beginning of it is where she's... I mean, she is... I don't know if she ever snaps out of it.
	She just starts stoned.
	Yes!
	I know how this goes.
	It's called wake and bake.
	It's a beautiful lifestyle.
	So the United States... There it is.
	The United States... Shares a very important relationship.
	Which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
	The public of North Korea.
	That's not embarrassing.
	I can't get over this.
	Hey man.
	I got a little confused.
	You got anything left?
	Hey man, are you holding?
	She must be doing edibles on the plane over.
	Hey man, does anything make good sense to you?
	Remember that one?
	Remember we used to do that?
	And when the Sensimilia was in?
	Annie, does that make good sense to you?
	All right, since we're on idiots, did you see the nerd orgasm that NASA had when they crashed that dart into the asteroid?
	I will say this.
	I don't have any clips of it.
	I watched the whole thing.
	Oh, no.
	And by the way, the number one thing they said, what was the number one phrase they used over and over and over and over?
	Oh, wow.
	Exactly.
	Hey, listen.
	Hey, listen.
	Looks to me like we're headed straight in.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Okay, the way is stop. - This sounds like a sex tape.
	Yes, that's what I said, the nerd orgasm.
	I never thought of clipping it because I was so dumb.
	But now that you played the clip, it sounds like a sex tape.
	Yes!
	Coming in, you know, oh wow, oh wow, oh wow.
	Oh yes, three, two, one, oh wow, oh wow.
	Well, I have to give you a fair warning.
	Okay.
	I have for all my ISOs for the end of show mixes are all from this meeting.
	Okay.
	Oh my goodness.
	That was so fun.
	Oh wow.
	Oh wow, man.
	Let's do a little like... Okay, I can either do what's wrong... No, no, no.
	I want to do a great reset.
	I got a super cut.
	Okay, play it.
	This is the global media, the global media, so it's all around the world, also US, the response to Georgia Maloney being elected and becoming Prime Minister, first female Prime Minister.
	You may tell me to stop at any time.
	Italy is poised to welcome its first far-right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	A far-right leader set to take the lead in Italy for the first time since Benito Mussolini.
	Their politics have been compared to that of Mussolini.
	The first far-right leader since Mussolini.
	The first far-right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	The first far-right leader since Mussolini.
	The first far-right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	First far-right leader since Mussolini.
	First far-right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	First far-right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	First leader from the far-right since Mussolini.
	First far-right leader since Mussolini.
	I love it.
	Since Benito Mussolini.
	Most conservative prime minister since Mussolini.
	Most far right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	Most far right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	It's furthest right since Benito Mussolini.
	It's furthest right since Benito Mussolini.
	The most far right leader since Benito Mussolini.
	The most far right prime minister since Mussolini.
	The most far right Italian prime minister since Benito Mussolini.
	The most far-right prime minister since Mussolini.
	She's also set to become the most far-right Italian head of government since Benito Mussolini.
	And the most far-right Italian head of government since... Okay, you can stop now.
	Can we put the dots together, people?
	So Berlusconi, by the way, was a far-right leader.
	Yes.
	And he supports her.
	And so how come he wasn't compared to Benito Mussolini?
	Because he's got the tapes from the Boonga Boonga Party.
	So now, yeah, this is bullcrap.
	So the point is, is that you, here's a problem.
	The number of people who watched it, listened to the news, That don't even know where Ukraine is.
	Don't know who Benito Mussolini is.
	It's not like Hitler.
	Hitler works.
	Benito Mussolini does not work.
	I mean, I used to always compare the way that Trump postured.
	Yeah, but hold on.
	I think that's the reason.
	They want to say the most far-right leader since Trump, but they have to say since Mussolini.
	And I think we had Mussolini and Trump comparisons.
	We did, but nobody else did.
	We're the only ones.
	You and I. I don't think it was generally done by the media or anybody else.
	They just went on and on about he's a Russian spy.
	They couldn't keep mixing their messages.
	In fact, I think on the big list of all the Trump flaws that I put out there, I don't think Mussolini was listed.
	This is dumb.
	It's stupid.
	Bad messaging is what you're saying.
	It's not any bad messaging, but it's so obviously coming from a central point.
	You think?
	I can't imagine.
	I can't imagine.
	Huh?
	Wow, John, you're really bright.
	Don't you think they're just all copying each other's homework or something?
	I don't know.
	How can that be centralized?
	That makes no sense.
	Everybody watches BBC, reads New York Times, and they're done.
	Yeah, that's it.
	You just do whatever they say.
	They say Benito Mussolini, you say Benito Mussolini.
	I look at the Dutch papers every single morning and you can see copy-paste, straight up copy-paste, little translate of course, in the Dutch.
	It must be great to be a reporter in Europe.
	I just got up.
	Let's see.
	I'm going to go to bed, darling.
	I just have to copy the news for tomorrow.
	They get perks that are unlike our perks over here.
	We have certain ethical things you have to deal with.
	No, not in Europe.
	I used to go to Seabed a lot and some of these other European events and meet up with my compatriots that work the media over there and they just laugh at us because we don't get all the freebies they get.
	Like what?
	What kind of freebies?
	Oh, they get, every weekend is some trip that somebody's putting on.
	Codex used to be one of the big junket companies in Europe, not here.
	And they used to give these guys this, you know, here, come on, we've got something to do this weekend, let's go do this.
	And then they'd take everybody to some event and then they'd give them a bunch of cameras and it's just all kinds of, it's just, it was like a goldmine.
	What are we doing wrong?
	Clearly.
	All right, I'll just go through just a few more.
	First of all, may I say, just in general, kind of looking at what happened in the financial markets, can we say that maybe The Queen's death was indeed the kickoff of the Great Reset because we get bombing, we get kinetic war with pipe sabotage.
	We've got the markets just going crazy and then not just the markets but then the pound.
	Elsewhere, the British pound dropped to an all-time low against the dollar after the UK's finance minister announced plans for the largest tax cut in 50 years in an effort to boost their economic growth.
	I mean, you get the new Prime Minister, I think a new Chancellor of the Exchequer.
	Everybody's going to be new, and she doesn't seem to be any good.
	No, but of course, this is horrible!
	They dropped a pound to a buck, I guess.
	Buck or one, I think.
	Yeah, it's back up to ten.
	Which is like, the time to go to England is when the pound is like this, because I remember when I was a kid, I told this to Horowitz on the last show, when I was a kid, I remember a moment when the pound was two dollars.
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	It was $2 after the war, and I think it stayed $2 a long time.
	Then it kind of gravitated and kind of stuck at about between $1.45 and $1.60.
	The Dutch Gilder was $5.
	What is it now?
	Well, it's non-existent because it became the Euro.
	Oh, that's why it became the Euro.
	But it was two Gilders to the Euro.
	Holland's prices doubled overnight, basically.
	When they implemented that.
	The same thing happened in Italy when they did it.
	Yes!
	The price in Italy was skyrocketed because of the way they did the conversion.
	And everybody bitch and moaned about it.
	And they said, well, I don't know.
	Because, you know, they all settled out eventually.
	But let me tell you, I recall working for Mevio.
	I was probably still a pod show.
	And I was commuting back and forth.
	And so my main domicile was in London.
	But the pound was so strong and kept getting stronger and stronger and stronger, I couldn't pay my rent at a certain point.
	Check it out, but check it out.
	So I went to Bloom and I said, man, you got to pay me in pounds.
	I mean, I can't do it.
	It was really crazy.
	Go look at it.
	It was, there was some big moves, like multiple dimes worth of moves.
	And it was, it was making it.
	I literally just didn't have enough money to, to, to pay for stuff.
	And I said, okay, so you got to change that.
	We did.
	And then it was like the pound dropped like crazy and I was living on a high horse.
	I never told anybody about that part.
	That was dynamite.
	So, you know, you got expats, Americans.
	I like it.
	You're screwing your own company.
	Meanwhile, back at the ranch.
	Well, on Wall Street, the recent slide in stock showed no signs of slowing as the Dow dropped more than 300 points and entered into a bear market, down 20% from its high in January.
	It went up today, so much of the signs are slowing.
	The dollar is weakening.
	The euro is back up to almost 98.
	The pound is, I think, 110 now.
	They're back, so they're recovering.
	What are the odds Soros was in the other side of this trade somewhere?
	Oh, definitely.
	Didn't it look like a massive sort?
	That's all he did.
	That's his job.
	But why isn't he getting credit for this one, like he did for the last time?
	I think he doesn't want to.
	Because he didn't actually break the bank this time.
	Anyways, things are heating up in the central bank digital currency talks in the European Union.
	And I know that our Fed Chairman Powell said, yeah, we're looking at it, maybe three years for the US.
	OK.
	But in the EU, it looks like they're moving a little faster.
	And she was interviewed for the Atlantic Council, and she revealed Really something interesting about how the Central Bank of Europe views How they're going to try and sell it to us, basically.
	She revealed that in this interview.
	I really want to talk also about one more last thing, the digital era.
	Oh, we're here for the rest of the day now!
	By the way, what is up with this Peshmina that she has draped over one shoulder?
	Like she's part of Starfleet Command that has a sash.
	You just did it right there.
	That's it.
	It's really annoying.
	And she carries herself like Madame Lagarde, the Honorable Madame Lagarde.
	Look at my pashmina sash, everybody.
	Especially for the benefit of our audience, I am a bit puzzled.
	Don't we already have a digital euro?
	I never pay with cash, I only pay with digital money.
	What is a central bank digital cash?
	So do you think that was a set-up question?
	I already have digital.
	Why do we need one, Madame Lagarde?
	Alright, to keep it super simple, I would say that it's a digital banknote.
	With a little less anonymity than the paper banknote.
	Because it is issued, guaranteed by the central bank.
	Am I saying that banknotes will disappear?
	Uh-uh.
	No.
	Do you know what is the first thing that we found out when we did the first survey and sort of client testing?
	We found that all those who are interested in a digital euro, that would be a central bank guaranteed payment system, peer-to-peer and otherwise, they say that the one thing that we really care about is privacy.
	Which apparently there's a little less of.
	And privacy, I think, has been, I mean, there are countries in Europe which have suffered from lack of privacy.
	And these countries are particularly attached to their privacy.
	But second, I think there have been enough scandals in the last few years of companies that have collected data
	through payments, notably, and otherwise, and that have monetized those data by selling databases, by producing artificially intelligence-produced in-depth analysis of you, me, and others, and they don't want that.
	So, you know, I think it's in addition to being the sort of central bank-guaranteed digital banknote, it's also A digital payment that should be available if people want it.
	If Europeans don't want it, then we shouldn't go there.
	But we should be ready if they want it.
	Because we provide the guarantee that those data will never be exploited for commercial purposes.
	I'm going to stop right here.
	So the pitch that she's making here to the question, why do I need, I have credit cards, I have Venmo, I've got all the, why do I need the digital euro?
	Her pitch is, oh, because they are spying on you.
	They track everything you do, true of course.
	They have an entire profile of you as a digital profile, all completely true.
	And then she goes and she says, now you won't have that With the central bank digital currency.
	And then she, and maybe this is just her misspeaking, but she says, those data will never be made available.
	Well, those, I mean, if she has those data, why is she doing it?
	I mean, if you're just, I mean, so are they doing profiles of people and they won't share that with companies?
	So what you're saying, I'm going to try to rephrase what you're asking me.
	Try, yeah.
	If the data won't be shared, why are you collecting it in the first place?
	Or even turning it into a profile.
	But yes, why are you even collecting it in the first place?
	Why are you collecting it in the first place if this is going to be so safe and secure and it's never going to be shared?
	So why collect it?
	What's the point?
	What's the point of collecting it?
	Well, the way she finishes up, and this is almost done, it almost sounds like she's willing to sell it!
	You know, I think it's in addition to being the sort of central bank guaranteed digital banknote, it's also a digital payment that should be available if people want it.
	You know, if Europeans don't want it, then we shouldn't go there.
	But we should be ready if they want it.
	Because we provide the guarantee that those data will never be exploited for commercial purposes.
	Whether people pay to buy their bread, or they pay to buy their cars, or what kind of... What?
	She gave it away!
	Yes.
	Yeah, I'll play that bit here.
	Here we go.
	... little payment that should be available if people want it.
	You know, if Europeans don't want it, then we shouldn't go there.
	But we should be ready if they want it.
	You mean that part?
	No.
	No.
	The data will never be available for commercial purposes.
	Yes.
	Because we provide the guarantee that those data will never be exploited for commercial purposes.
	Whether people pay to buy their bread.
	So now she's telling us what they're going to be tracking.
	So this is the data that will never be made available for commercial purposes.
	And here's some examples of what we'll know about you.
	Never be exploited for commercial purposes.
	Whether people pay to buy their bread, or they pay to buy their cars, or what kind of medicine they purchase, what kind of frequency they go to hospital, is none of our business as central banks.
	It can be the business of private sector data collectors, who happen to find out lots of interesting things about us.
	This is not the business of a central bank, and it should never be.
	I think you're right.
	And she just told us she knows very well what they're going to be collecting.
	The follow-up question would immediately be, OK, well, it's not the business of the central bank.
	Is it the business of the government?
	Is it the business of the tax collector, the revenuers?
	Is it the business of the spooks of the various intelligence agencies?
	Is it their business?
	I think it's kind of their business, isn't it?
	They're not commercial.
	You're not selling it to me.
	He's giving it to them.
	Is that where it's going to end up?
	Yes.
	Christine?
	By the way, I have these two photos.
	I'm going to try to remember to put them in the next newsletter.
	Of Christine Lagarde?
	The Christine Lagarde pictures that the Americans see and the ones that the RT uses.
	I'll bet they're really nice.
	Oh man!
	Does that woman have wrinkles or what?
	That's why you're supposed to look at the pashmina.
	It's like a Deborah Birx thing.
	It's really annoying.
	You're probably right.
	It should distract you because she's... If you see some of these real pictures, she is... Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh my goodness.
	Okay, let's see.
	So amidst this, since we're talking about this sector, stories now, maybe a trial balloon, White House mulling potential Janet Yellen departure after midterms?
	She was just interviewed on a show.
	I didn't get any clips from it.
	I didn't get a lot of clips.
	I get a lot of clips, but I didn't get any of these that we're talking about.
	Now you were listening to a podcast that irked you.
	She was interviewed recently on some screwball thing, and she seems like she's got a foot out the door, seems to me.
	Yeah, but why?
	I mean, wouldn't they want the... It's a dumb job.
	Nobody likes somebody's government job.
	Do you think she wants out or is she being kicked out?
	What do you think it is?
	I think she wants out.
	Yeah.
	There are thousands and thousands of Syrian refugees getting ready to enter Greece through Turkey.
	You see the videos of this?
	I did not.
	And it has a name.
	It has a code name.
	Hold on a second.
	It's called... What's this called?
	Oh, I saw a thousand.
	I could have been the same B-roll to show for the thousands and thousands of Russians going to Georgia.
	Yeah, but there's like the Guardian.
	I mean, this is real reporting.
	It's just not really bubbling to the top because, you know, Turkey.
	But this is Erdogan.
	What did they call that thing?
	It's like the golden wind or something.
	Something horrible that you don't want.
	Some wind.
	I can't find it.
	It has some weird name.
	Yeah, so they're gonna trounce through Turkey and then, I guess, keep on, uh, you know, through Greece and then keep going, I presume.
	But Greece can't ha- Oh, Caravan of Light!
	There it is.
	The Caravan of Light.
	The Caravan of Light.
	Wow, that's a good one.
	Yeah.
	It sounds like Erdogan would come up with that one.
	Yeah.
	Caravan of Light.
	Give me a break.
	And what else did we have on the... Did you... Kind of going back to Georgia.
	Did you see her roast Macron?
	I mean, like, really, really roast him?
	No.
	Okay.
	I only have a subtitled version.
	Yeah, that's the problem.
	We can't get some... Yeah, but I'll read along.
	Her stuff is dynamite.
	Dynamite.
	I'll read along.
	Okay, here we go.
	Okay.
	I'll read along.
	Emmanuel Macron.
	She's like, huh.
	Emmanuel Macron described us as disgusting cynics and irresponsible.
	About our party, of course.
	And here the Italian press began to ask, did you hear what Macron said about us?
	He said, we're irresponsible.
	What a shame.
	The irresponsible Emmanuel Macron are those who bombed Libya because they were concerned that Italy would obtain important energy concessions with Gaddafi.
	And left us facing the chaos of illegal immigration we are facing now!
	The cynics, Emmanuel Macron, are the French who send the gendarmerie to return any immigrant trying to cross the border in Ventimiglia.
	And most of all, and because things have to be said, disgusting... She says something here that's not translated.
	I don't know what she's doing.
	This is not translated.
	She probably said she has a small penis.
	Next line.
	Yeah, he's real small.
	Disgusting is France that continues to exploit Africa by printing money to 14 African countries, charging them mint fees.
	And by children labor in the mines and by extracting raw materials as is happening in Niger.
	Where France extracts 30% of the uranium it needs to run its nuclear reactors while 90% of Niger's population lives without electricity.
	No, no.
	Do not come to teach us lessons, Macron!
	The Africans are abandoning their continent because of you!
	The solution is not to transfer Africans to Europe, but to liberate Africa from some Europeans!
	God.
	We will not accept lessons from you.
	Is that clear, Macron?
	Hey, I thought that was pretty good.
	She's just, you know, it's about time somebody spoke up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she's going to be trouble.
	She's a troublemaker.
	You can just tell.
	Never a boring moment.
	She likes the adulation.
	The Italians love her because she likes to shoot from the hip.
	She's on fire.
	Or from the shoulder, as Biden would say.
	She's on fire, man.
	Yeah, I'm not going to argue that.
	Okay, now let's just compare that 28-second clip to one of our politicians back here in America.
	You tell me which one you'd prefer.
	You just heard Georgia Maloney.
	Here's New York City Mayor Adams.
	We have a brand.
	New York has a brand.
	And when people see it, it means something.
	You know, when we go there, it's not... Kansas doesn't have a brand.
	But New York has a brand.
	It has a brand.
	Okay, you're from Kansas.
	No.
	Well, you know what?
	But New York has a brand.
	It has a brand.
	I mean, what?
	This guy.
	And now that there's that black guy who can do his voice kind of, only makes it even worse, his whiny voice of the male.
	You mean our guy?
	Our producer?
	Is it our guy who's doing it?
	Our producer has done end of show mixes with Eric Adams.
	With that... His voice is dynamite.
	It does him on... I mean, it's... I wish I could get that cadence.
	He's got a... Eric Adams is an idiot.
	It's just... I think it's Sir Michael Anthony.
	Let me see.
	Yeah, it would be.
	He'd be the one.
	Here you go.
	Supreme Court judge who thinks he's the mayor told me, the best mayor on the globe, that I can't force a jibby jab on the profile.
	That's our guy.
	That's our Michael Anthony.
	Yeah, that's our guy.
	He's good.
	He's very good.
	You should take that on the road.
	Get on some shows with it.
	You should take that on the road.
	Take it on the road, Michael.
	Take it on the road with that comedian, Elsie, what is her name, who does Kamala?
	Oh, the blonde girl who does Kamala?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They could do a show together.
	She's hilarious.
	They could do a show together.
	It'd be great.
	She listens to the show.
	She's a blonde girl who does Camelot.
	Listen, you know, it's the clips of St.
	Camelot saying she loves the No Agenda show in a stoned voice.
	There you go.
	All right.
	But do you want to write a script?
	Because, you know, it has to be when I listen to the podcast, when it's the best podcast of the universe, the universe being universal, where we all come together to be universally entertained by the podcast as the podcast, which is something like that.
	Can you write that?
	I could write something, probably not that.
	All right, all right.
	Okay, here we go.
	I'm going to give you, this is an Ask Adams, what's wrong with these podcasts segment.
	Okay.
	Ready?
	I'm ready!
	Now they got four of them listed, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Now you gotta be careful you play the right one.
	This is the one you're gonna play.
	Don't start playing it.
	Nope.
	New show, guess who won?
	New show, guess who won?
	I want you to listen to this clip and tell me who this is.
	Thank you to Slack for supporting the launch of my new show.
	Sure, they're the name in the ads, but Slack also... Do I get to buzz in now or do I have to listen to 30 seconds of this?
	Do you want me to buzz in or do I just let it play?
	...also supports us by making our work more efficient.
	You can buzz in.
	It's really rare.
	Adam Curry, Hill Country, Kara Swisher.
	Okay.
	Alright, so she's got this new podcast she's doing on New York, for New York Magazine, because she got, I guess, booted from the one from New York, New York Times.
	I think she had, no, what she's got, listen, this is my hate list on this woman, so I know a lot about it.
	She said it was time to part ways.
	Yeah, she means she's got a booty.
	Right.
	So I... Because they don't like lesbians.
	They don't like lesbians.
	This first one came out this Monday and I caught it right away.
	Me too.
	Knowing that this is so important to you so you can keep up.
	John, I heard the podcast.
	I listened to the whole thing.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Now I got some what's wrong with this podcast issues.
	Everything.
	Before you get into it, I hate listening to Pivot.
	A man, there was some extraordinary hate to be had there this week.
	But then, of course, I caught the On It with Kara Swisher.
	And she starts off her first episode of the new show by saying, Hi everybody, it's Ben Shapiro with my little dick energy.
	I've got the clip.
	You don't have to do it.
	I could not believe she did that.
	Ah, here it is.
	Which one is it, two?
	Yep.
	Okay, number two.
	Thank you to Slack for supporting the launch of my new show.
	Sure, they're the name in the ads, but Slack also supports us by making our work more efficient.
	It's really where all of Vox does its work, from launching iconic- Wait, is that still number one?
	Yeah, it's still number one.
	What happened there?
	Sorry.
	Two.
	Hi everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is the Ben Shapiro Show with 100% less LDE.
	That would be Little Dick Energy, obviously.
	Just kidding, not about the Little Dick Energy.
	I'm Kara Swisher, and this is the first episode of On with Kara Swisher.
	And I'm Naima Raza.
	I've been producing Kara for years, and now I'm getting a promotion.
	I'm bumped up to sidekick.
	I am the goose to your maverick.
	You know what happens to Goose?
	He dies.
	Yes, but for now, talk to me, Goose, as Maverick likes to say.
	There you go.
	Thank you for my moment in the sunlight, Kara.
	Just a moment before you off me.
	I'm going to.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so, you know, her promos.
	This was baffling to me.
	I'm kind of happy you brought this, because, you know, I hated it so much, even I couldn't bring myself to clip it.
	No, you would never do this.
	Well, I know I'm going to be clipping from her in the future.
	Yeah, but you aren't going to do this.
	No, I was not.
	I was going to maybe mention if it came up and I'm glad you had the clip.
	Some of her promos were like, Hi, this is Joe Rogan with a new show.
	Oh, just kidding.
	It's Kara Swisher.
	So she's she's communicating.
	What is the point of that?
	She's communicating two things.
	One, she is doing a show similar where she has an interview with a long interview with someone, although it's only an hour.
	Big deal.
	I have never heard of such a thing.
	Stop the presses.
	She is so irked She's like an Air America disc jockey.
	She's so irked that these two assholes, Joe Rogan and the little dick energy of Ben Shapiro, that they have huge audiences.
	Please watch me!
	I'm Kara Swisher!
	Now here's the other thing besides that, by the way, is in poor form.
	Very poor form.
	You cannot do that.
	We would have said no, but that's a burn.
	We're burning back the tape.
	Let's start over.
	Kara, just do a normal, hey, this is great.
	Just do a show.
	You don't have to try to put everybody else down who's making more money than you are.
	And then she had Chris Cuomo on who ran circles around her.
	Yeah, I did.
	Believe me, I didn't cut.
	All I got is just the what's wrong part, which is the Chris Cuomo, who the hell cares?
	But I want to play part three and then I want to I'm going to actually play this part three, and in advance I'm going to tell you what I think is wrong.
	You can't have two people, because she brought her sidekick to be, no, she brought her producer to be a sidekick, because everybody wants to be in front of the camera, right?
	Yeah.
	So she brought this other woman out.
	She, at some point, on and off, if you listen to it... Oh, you watch the video?
	No.
	If you listen to it, I said.
	If you listen to it, you can't... If you see the video, it'd be better.
	If they have a video, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But... They sound like the same person!
	You have to, if you're going to do a, this is a tip for podcasters out there.
	If you're hanging out with somebody all the time and you start sounding like them, you can't do a podcast with them.
	Just like Glenn Beck, by the way.
	He's got those three guys.
	They all sound like Glenn Beck.
	I'm going to stop you there.
	This is.
	What you're saying you should not do is something that radio guys have done since the early 80s.
	I'm gonna say Scott Shannon's the first one who did it.
	Z100 in New York.
	He hired Ross Britton and every other guy that he's hired as a sidekick who sounds enough like him that if... and he's told me this straight up.
	If Scott's not there, either for one break or something, or even for a whole show, the audience is not immediately tuning out because they hear a wildly different voice.
	And that's why Glenn Beck does it too.
	Now why Kara Swisher does this, I have no idea.
	Well, I find it annoying, and even when Beck was doing his radio show, and he had this one guy in particular that was always on the show with him, like a sidekick.
	He still does the show.
	And the two of them were talking, and I go, I don't know who the hell's talking here.
	This woman, because she's hanging out, they're in the same milieu, and she's starting to sound like her.
	She doesn't sound completely like her, but she's sounding too close.
	And when you listen to this, she does something Because she must be aware of this.
	Because she keeps saying, like, if I'm talking to you, Adam Curry, and I blah blah blah, Adam Curry.
	You don't do that unless you're trying to make it clear that you're identifying that you're not Adam Curry.
	You don't even like me saying John on the show.
	I don't.
	I find it poor form for people to keep referring to it.
	Because you don't do that in real life.
	Oh, I do that all the time.
	Tina!
	Come on, Tina!
	You know you never I'd never heard you say to you always don't pull the trigger.
	You're always saying Yeah, Tina's when she's got the gun that's what so let's listen to this I do say darling I do say darling to her that is what you say darling go on part three now part three Trump has all but declared he's running in 2024, and the Queen has died, which is unrelated to the two items above, but in some way, who could blame her?
	Have you enjoyed your time off, your summer vacations, Kara Swisher?
	I don't vacation, Naima.
	I ran a major tech conference, co-interviewed 16 people, and major people in two days, and then I've been traveling, and I've done tons of interviews.
	I don't take vacations.
	I was there, I was on stage with you in my yellow suit.
	By the way, Kara Swisher, you always need everyone to know, I'm Kara Swisher, and I don't take holidays.
	Yeah, I cringed at this as well.
	I'm like, oh really?
	She's a millionaire, multi-millionaire, probably mainly by divorce, but she's done quite well with her conferences and once she got away from the Wall Street Journal and was able to set it up herself.
	She's set for life, but she really thinks she's all that and a bag of chips.
	She tweeted Because I tweet back at her all the time.
	I hate her.
	I might as well try to reach her.
	And I do.
	And she's, you know, coming up the first episode of The Pod.
	The Pod?
	And I reply.
	Yeah, I reply.
	I say, please don't call it Pod.
	And her reply, I will always.
	Oh, please.
	Well, you know who you can thank for giving her a break in broadcasting?
	Oh, don't tell me it's Leo Laporte.
	Me.
	Silicon Spin.
	Great show, everybody.
	Nice talking to you.
	John!
	Really?
	You gave her the break and break.
	As far as I know, she's never been on the air before.
	You're two for two, man.
	You got Natalie Del Conte-Morris, and you got Kara Swisher.
	Well done, John!
	Coach to the douchebags!
	There's others, believe me.
	Coach to the women we hate!
	What is going on?
	No, that's not true, because Jen Briney is a runaway success.
	You knocked it out of the park with her.
	Knocked it out of the park.
	I knocked it out of the park with all of them, in essence.
	Part two of What's Wrong With These Podcasts.
	I want you to guess You probably... Wait, part two?
	What do you mean?
	There's a part two, there's a second second.
	This is called WWWTP Another Oh No One.
	Now don't start it.
	Okay.
	This is, I want you to guess who's doing this podcast.
	Can I start it?
	Yep.
	I'm just seeing if I can guess it from that alone.
	No.
	Decades ago, A quote was carved into a marble wall at headquarters.
	And ye shall know the truth, it reads, and the truth shall make you free.
	This is the CIA podcast!
	Now I just remembered, it was, I wouldn't have known if I didn't know they had a podcast and at the very end it was the slogan of the CIA.
	Is that the CIA podcast?
	Yes, this is episode one.
	Yes, how bad does that suck?
	Oh, brother!
	So they brought on, for their first interview, first of all, there's these two... Do you have more clips of this?
	Yes, but I had to switch the nomenclature.
	Can I just say one thing about this podcast?
	In gross violation of, I think, all standards and practices, they are using Transistor as their hosting company.
	You know, I'm the podfather, I know stuff.
	That's a French company.
	They are hosting this at a French company.
	Yep.
	Okay, you knew that?
	I knew this wasn't kosher.
	Something's up here.
	Okay, what are we doing?
	What do you got?
	So we're going to move to what the whole podcast was about, which was an interview with William Burns.
	And so let's go to the clip's Bill Burns interview.
	Now, who is Bill Burns?
	He is the head, the honcho of the CIA, former.
	He's got a really spooky background, even though he says he never was in the CIA, but he was the ambassador to Russia.
	He's been all over the Middle East.
	He speaks fluently.
	He's guest one, episode one, guest one?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	You'd think that in typical fashion, you'd have the director of the CIA on or, you know, maybe roll out Brennan to say, you know, if you smell guilty, you're guilty.
	Something like that?
	No.
	Okay.
	Can I start?
	Well, no, Bill Burns is the director of the CIA.
	Oh, that's what I... Okay, I didn't understand.
	You said... Yeah, no, I said Bill Burns is... This guy's spooky.
	He's been a spook all his life.
	Well, yeah, William Burns, CIA director.
	But they brought him on and they... and it turns out the guy is not entertaining.
	And neither are these two people that are just doing the podcast.
	They're so giddy about it.
	Nor is the music.
	Oh, the music.
	Not only that, but they had a trailer with different music with the same opening, which was worse.
	But anyway, so here we go.
	D&I couldn't be more excited and honored.
	All right, everybody.
	Hold on a second.
	That's a good start.
	Let's try that again and really sound like you're excited.
	Okay, let's try that again.
	Let's try it again.
	Dee and I couldn't be more excited and honored to sit down on this debut episode with CIA Director Bill Burns.
	Hello, sir.
	Thank you so much for joining us today.
	It's great to be with you guys.
	Do they identify themselves by their name?
	Is it like, I'm Special Agent Burns, I'm Special Agent Pete or whatever?
	Or is it just host?
	Are you playing Clip 2?
	You didn't tell me to play clip two.
	No, I mean, you should be playing Bill Burns' interview with no number.
	Yeah, that's what I was playing.
	Okay.
	What's the length on that one?
	220.
	It's long.
	220?
	221?
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, play it.
	Dee and I couldn't be more excited and honored to sit down on this debut episode with CIA Director Bill Burns.
	Hello, sir.
	Thank you so much for joining us today.
	Well, it's great to be with you guys, and you're right.
	Intelligence agencies are supposed to collect secrets and keep them and not talk too much about them.
	We do usually operate in the shadows, out of sight and out of mind.
	Our successes are often obscured, our failures are often painfully visible, and our sacrifices are often unknown.
	But a certain amount of discretion certainly comes with the territory.
	We have a profound obligation to protect agents and officers who risk their lives in support of our mission, which is to help protect Americans.
	But I'm convinced, as I know you are, that in our democracy, where trust in institutions is in such short supply, that it's important to try to explain ourselves as best we can and to demystify a little bit of what we do.
	So that's why I'm glad you're launching this podcast and glad to be with you.
	And that's a great word to use, the demystify word.
	All of a sudden it turned into a great podcast.
	And what we are trying to do is just that, is we think that by engaging a little bit more with the public, we can kind of help to lessen some of those misconceptions that many do have of us.
	So thank you for that.
	Oh, agreed.
	And actually, sir, we wanted to ask you, what do you think are some of the biggest misconceptions that people have about the CIA?
	Well, I should start by saying that I love spy movies.
	But one big misconception that a lot of those really entertaining movies feed is that intelligence in real life is just a glamorous world of solo operators, the world of James Bond and Jason Bourne and Jack Ryan.
	A world of heroic individuals who drive fast cars and defuse bombs and solve world crises all on their own every day.
	That, I have to tell you, is a constant source of amusement for my wife and daughters.
	They never cease to remind me that I don't exactly fit that image, since I'm most comfortable driving our 2013 Subaru Outback at posted speed limits and that, for me, at least the height of technological daring is when I can finally get the Roku remote to work at home.
	Oh, brother!
	So, first of all, the CIA mission used to be, informally, jump out of airplanes, save the world.
	Here on the CIA.gov website, he said their mission is to protect Americans.
	No!
	At the CIA, our mission is to preempt threats and further U.S.
	national security objectives by collecting foreign intelligence that matters, producing objective all-source analysis, conducting effective covert action as directed by the President, and safeguarding the secrets that help keep our nation safe.
	So it's just not true what he said.
	Surprise.
	I don't have all this interview, obviously, even though the podcast is fairly short at 17 minutes.
	Oh, really?
	That's their idea of a podcast?
	Yeah.
	Oh, jeez.
	Does I get one more clip from him?
	He gives away a lot of information.
	I don't know.
	What's the point of telling everyone he drives a Subaru?
	I don't know.
	What's the point of saying he uses a Roku?
	I'm not sure.
	Because the wife drives a Subaru, and if it's a hit, it's not going to get him.
	Yeah, it could be.
	He also talks about his 21 overseas missions, which is a detail I don't think was But let me ask you something maybe differently.
	Is this not just another part of the uncloaking?
	You know, now they're uncloaking.
	Now we're going to talk.
	Now CIA is coming to the front.
	They're all coming back.
	All the Obama people are all showing up.
	And now the CIA has been real quiet for a long time.
	Now they're doing a podcast?
	I mean, that can't be overlooked.
	Uh, well, I think there's... Is this a recruiting tool, or is it just a... I think it's a couple of things.
	I'm not sure what it is.
	It's not good, apparently.
	If they're doing their job, I should have no clue why they're doing this.
	Yes.
	But they're doing it.
	I think it's just a swage, personally, the woke element that they brought into the agency as a front.
	And this is just their, okay, this is their nod to these idiots.
	And they're gonna, okay, we'll do it.
	I'll be the guy, you interview me.
	And they're gonna probably do five of these, maybe, if that.
	And that'll be it, they'll be done.
	And they say, well, nobody listened.
	And by the way, nobody is going to listen, because no matter where they put it, it's posted only on the CIA.gov site that I can find.
	I know, this is it.
	This is it.
	So this is pretty much the deal.
	So let's listen to... He's... Hold on one second.
	Bill is married to Agnes Brown?
	The truth is that intelligence is very much a team sport.
	Robert Burns?
	What?
	No, that can't be right.
	That's got to be a different idea.
	No, you got somebody else.
	That's connected to his Wikipedia.
	All right, part two.
	The truth is that intelligence is very much a team sport.
	It's a profession of hard collective work and shared risks and remarkable common dedication.
	Every day, our officers are doing hard jobs in hard places around the world.
	They're Every day we're recruiting agents and collecting information on the plans and the intentions and the capabilities of our adversaries.
	Every day our scientists and technologists and digital specialists are developing new tools to help us compete with those adversaries.
	Every day our analysts are sifting through all that information and studying the global landscape.
	Basically they do what we do.
	Except they haven't figured out how to make a podcast out of it yet.
	the president make the best policy choices that he can.
	Basically, they do what we do.
	Except they haven't figured out how to make a podcast out of it yet.
	We do the same thing.
	We look around, we speak around, people give us reports.
	We get reports.
	People put it together, we use technology, and now we turn it into a podcast, you weaponize it for political reasons.
	We don't do that, that's for sure.
	So that led me to this.
	Which is the Grin Greenwald road.
	Yes.
	Do you have these clips?
	No, no, I do not have these clips.
	I saw it.
	Let me tell you what happened.
	I had it ready to clip.
	I saw your clips coming and I'm like, Oh, he has it.
	Yeah, I do have it.
	So you got it.
	So Greenwald was on the rising sun or whatever the hell the name of this rising or whatever it is.
	The hills are rising, they're rising.
	No, no, but it's the spinoff, the two guys, you know, Crystal Ball and... Yeah, yeah, rising, yes.
	Ex-hill.
	Ex-hill.
	They went off to do their own podcast and they're making money and the hill people aren't.
	Hill people, zero.
	So they had Snowden on and Snowden brought up some new stuff and new information has come to light and I thought it was fascinating.
	His interpretation may or may not be on the money but it's definitely worth listening to what he had to say about mostly about Trump and here we go.
	I've got information, man!
	New shit has come to light!
	And the reason why media outlets dislike Snowden and Assange and so many people like them, even though those people are the ones enabling journalists to do the job they claim they're there to do, is because their sources inside the CIA and the FBI and the Justice Department and the White House hate Snowden and Assange, and therefore they just reflect reflexively those same biases.
	That is what these media outlets are for.
	Wait a minute, that went too fast for me.
	What did he exactly say there?
	The discussion was about... this discussion rambled.
	It went from here to there to there.
	No, of course, it's the rising.
	What do you expect?
	Well, it's because anything with Greenwald... He's too long.
	He's too long.
	He's long.
	He's long-winded.
	And by the way, I just took this clip off the end of his long discussion of what's wrong with the media, which is that they're beholden to CIA, FBI, and these sources that feed him stuff and they just regurgitate it for the public.
	Well, it led into the Snowden discussion about him not getting his extradition.
	Not his extradition, but his pardon from Trump.
	But I needed that at the beginning because that tells you that the media is in the bag and they're not going to help.
	The whole thing was rigged, it was fixed, and here's where he continues.
	Can I just play that first clip again just so I can hear it now?
	And the reason why media outlets dislike Snowden and Assange and so many people like them, even though those people are the ones enabling journalists to do the job they claim All right, I get it.
	to do is because their sources inside the CIA and the FBI and the Justice Department and the White House hate Snowden and Assange, and therefore they just reflect reflexively those same biases.
	That is what these media outlets are for.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I get it.
	We'll continue with clip two.
	He had to transit through Moscow on his way to Havana, and the Obama administration, led by Joe Biden, did everything possible to block him from leaving Moscow, but he had Ben Rhodes boasted, bragged in his own book, about he called the Cubans and said, if you want us to lift this embargo, if you want to have better relations with us, you better not do anything to help Edward Snowden get out of Moscow because if you do, there'll be no political space to do it.
	The reason he's in Russia isn't because he chose to be.
	It's because the Obama administration forced him to be precisely so that they could turn around and get morons to think, oh, well, if he's in Russia, he must be a Kremlin spy.
	And now he's a citizen.
	Yeah, this brings up a lot of possibilities, but I put that as more background.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	It's not a big deal.
	That's just more background to the choice clip, which is next.
	And that is the problem is it was the Trump administration considering actively pardoning Snowden.
	I think it was one of Trump's more cowardly moves not to have done that.
	The reason he didn't was because the second impeachment trial was hanging over his head and Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham made clear, Mitch McConnell, if you pardon Snowden, we're going to vote for your own impeachment.
	But he didn't.
	And now the Biden administration was a part of the Obama administration.
	is continuing this repressive attack on whistleblowers that led to Snowden not being able to come back to the United States in the first place.
	I had never heard that before, Glenn, that there was a threat from Rubio and Graham and some of the more hawkish, pro-security state Republicans to potentially vote to convict Trump in that impeachment hearing over Snowden.
	Just explain that a little bit more to me, because that's a new piece of information for me.
	Wow, this is great.
	So it's the Chippendale and the Turtle.
	So you have the Turtle, you have the Chippendale, and you have Lindsey Graham.
	Lady G. And you have to remember that Rubio's on the Intelligence Committee.
	Yeah.
	And we have to always remember or recall the fact that the FBI was always Primarily, it does work.
	They do stuff.
	I think Rubio, because he is on the intel committee, I think Rubio is a real problem.
	He's a real problem.
	Rubio's compromised.
	I think the FBI's got pictures of both Graham and Rubio with a dick in their mouth to be blunt about it.
	I would never say something like that.
	Yeah, you would.
	No.
	But there's something wrong with this picture that these two guys, especially, I mean Graham we know is just a phony, lives at home with his mom still as far as I know.
	No, that's serious.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the last time we came into conversation was during the Trump administration.
	I came out that he lived at home with his mom.
	I mean, you could have said tube smoking.
	I mean, anything would have been better than that.
	Oh, your butt?
	No, I'm done.
	You buy that?
	I'm done.
	Tube smoking.
	I don't want to be vague.
	This is what they get the photo of.
	And so, uh, these guys can't... They're useless.
	You're making a mistake.
	Marco's mom lives with him, you see.
	Don't you understand?
	She lives with me, okay?
	It's not Marco that lives with his mom, it's Lindsay.
	Oh, Lindsay.
	Oh, same.
	Lady G. Lindy Hop, please.
	No, no, Marco is Rubio.
	Who knows who he lives with or what.
	But it's pathetic because he was a runner, he was going for president and he was compromised.
	He's obviously compromised if this story is even remotely true.
	Completely!
	And Lindsey, we know, is totally compromised because he sways with the wind and sways other ways too.
	Yeah, there it is!
	You're on a roll, John C. Keep it going.
	I'm sorry, you.
	I shouldn't say your name.
	Hey, you.
	You're on a roll, you.
	So this story is, and Trump should have known better.
	He says, well, because you still need 75 yes votes to get the impeachment.
	I think if it came down to it, a lot of Democrats would pull back on it because nobody wants to impeach the president.
	Because the second impeachment was over the phone call, the perfect phone call.
	So, I mean, that was dumb.
	But if those guys came over to Trump and said, look, well, let's play.
	There's a little more information here coming up.
	Let's go to part four.
	Yeah, so you know, obviously I was somebody who was working very actively, both publicly advocating but also in private, doing everything I could to secure a pardon for both Assange and Snowden, Snowden being my source and Assange being someone I regard as heroic.
	And there was real movement inside the Trump administration to give particularly Snowden a pardon.
	It came much closer to Snowden than they did to Assange.
	And if you think about it, why would they have initiated an impeachment proceeding against the president who within a couple of weeks was on his way out?
	And the reason, Crystal, was that they were very afraid that on his way out, Trump was going to do a bunch of stuff, including not just giving pardons to Snowden and Assange, but also declassify all kinds of documents he had been threatening to declassify about the CIA, about the Kennedy assassination.
	And the only leverage they had against Trump doing what they considered crazy stuff on his way out was the second impeachment trial.
	And they explicitly communicated to Trump.
	multiple Republican kind of hawkish senators did, that if you do what we know you're thinking about doing, what Rand Paul and Matt Gaetz and others were encouraging him to do, which was pardon Snowden, that will severely jeopardize your chances of getting out of this impeachment trial with an acquittal.
	And that was the kind of sword of Damocles hanging over his head during that transition.
	Does that relate to the documents that he then takes to Mar-a-Lago, Because there's some reporting that the documents that he took there were, you know, related to Russiagate.
	They were things that, you know, he had flirted with declassifying before, but didn't for whatever reason.
	Do you know if there's a connect there?
	What I know for sure is that Trump was threatening to declassify all of those documents relating to Russiagate because Trump believes, I think with a lot of validity, that there were crimes committed or at least ethical transgressions committed during the 2016 election to create and manufacture Russiagate.
	It came out of the CIA.
	And I don't know exactly which documents he took.
	Nobody really knows exactly which documents he took.
	It certainly seems to align with everything I knew at the time, which was that Trump wanted those documents public, had the power to declassify them.
	And now his defense is that he did.
	Man, that's not bad for Crystal.
	No, not bad at all.
	And man, that's... And what's interesting is you listen to this and then if you go back to the CIA podcast and listen to Bill continue, he goes on about how important it is to be nonpartisan and blah, blah, blah.
	It was just... I should have clipped that part too because it's just like, what?
	Are you kidding me?
	Especially after the Russiagate and the more recent stuff with the Hunter Biden laptop and the...
	All the intel agency heads going, oh, it looks like a Russian deal to me.
	I mean, it's got all the earmarks of a Russian hoax.
	You know, these guys are into it up to their neck.
	And it's actually kind of protected.
	They're not doing the public a service.
	No, and do you think that they're going to fix this with a podcast?
	I know what we'll do, Bill!
	The podcast is what I'm pretty sure I said it was, which is just an assuage product for the woke newbies.
	No, I'm down with that.
	Wow, that's pretty explosive.
	So Rubio, so the Chippendale and the Turtle.
	Those guys, huh?
	Dead, dead.
	And the lady.
	And the lady?
	Who's the lady?
	Lady G. Oh, and the lady.
	I'm sorry, I keep forgetting the third wheel of the village people.
	Unbelievable!
	Wow.
	Well, good on Crystal Ball there.
	There's nothing to deconstruct.
	I mean, I can't even give clip of the day because it was just, they did the work.
	They did.
	And with that, I'd like to thank... Well, actually, Greenwald did the work.
	He did the work.
	Let's face it.
	I'd like to thank you for your courage, saying good morning to you, the man who put the C in the Chippendale and the Turtle.
	Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. John C.
	And the lady.
	And the lady.
	Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning, I should see boots on the ground, feet in the air, sevens in the water, and all the dames and all the knights out there.
	And in the morning, some trolls in the troll room who have been diligently hanging out.
	You've handed me a couple of good ones today, trolls.
	I like that.
	Appreciate that.
	The Troll Room and trollroom.io is where you can log in, you can check it out, you can talk, troll, do whatever, listen.
	You'll be listening live to the stream so you can hear the show on Thursdays and Sundays, but it's 24-7, there's always a reason to go in there.
	And I don't think we can ever run out of space there, which is pretty good.
	Let's give them a little count, see how many we have with us today.
	All right, trolls, we have, ooh, 1971. 1971.
	Same as last week.
	Very stable.
	Stable, stable count.
	Now, did you tell me after the last week or the last show that you saw a seven car Zephyr?
	Or six?
	Oh yeah.
	Was it a seven or a six?
	You're bringing it up.
	The Zephyr for the last couple of weeks has only been seven cars as opposed to the normal eight.
	And the holiday nine, which is missed.
	But there's been seven cars.
	There was one eight-car Zephyr, but it doesn't count as an eight-car Zephyr because the last car was actually a private car.
	And it was one of the nice ones.
	So it was still a seven-car Zephyr with a private car on the end.
	But it's been running seven, seven, seven, seven consistently.
	You should have given us a report because we could have predicted the market collapse.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	I'm just saying.
	I'm sorry for the trolls who I counted too harshly.
	I guess they have sensitive ears if you pat them along.
	Sorry about that.
	So, if you're not a troll, that's not your bag, go to noagendasocial.com.
	If you don't have an account, we have a limited time offer.
	You can sign up.
	It costs nothing, but you've got to hurry before stocks run out.
	Sign up at noagendasocial.com and you'll immediately be subscribed or following, I think, me and John.
	John C. DeVorek at noagendasocial.com.
	Adam at noagendasocial.com.
	And you can do that from any Mastodon server.
	It is the place where Noah's in the Nation hangs out, talks crap, has some fun, posts some stuff.
	You know, it's like Twitter without the annoying algos and advertisements.
	So, looking forward to seeing you there.
	Now, let us thank the artists for Episode... Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	In a show... There we go.
	In a show... Episode... What is huh?
	Well, what's huh is that a thing popped up on my screen that I thought was only on the other computer, but yet here it is.
	And that was?
	Well, I just closed it so I can't tell you what it was.
	Okay, I'm glad we stopped for that.
	Well, you're the one that stopped.
	1989 was titled Sophistries or Sophistries Choice.
	Which was quite appropriate.
	The pun.
	The pun.
	And the art was by the one and only OG of the Art Generator himself, Sir Paul Couture.
	Yeah.
	Brought us a beautiful, now this was a complex image.
	Which always gets I mean if it's a beautiful piece and it's complex that always gets our eye But he had some good things in there.
	He had hooey-hooey He had like a hooey-hooey Cheesecake girl, you know what I'm gonna.
	I'm gonna have to say something about Paul Couture's art And it's not always this way, but he does some of the best emblem art.
	He's the one who did the original Challenge Coins.
	Challenge Coins, yep.
	That's why he's good at it, yeah.
	And he's good at doing, and I think he should be put aside as a name to, like, if you need something like, even like a coin, a real coin design, or a symbol, or something that's round, that means a badge, a button.
	Charles, King Charles should call him for the coin, for his coin.
	Anything!
	That's a style of art that he's really nailed.
	He can do it, and so every time he does one of these things, even though in this case it's not a perfectly symmetrical piece because you got the cheesecake on there, but generally speaking it's dynamite.
	It's dynamite!
	Logos.
	If he's going to give you anything that needs a logo, get a hold of him.
	That's it.
	It's the logo.
	He'll do a logo for five grand and it'll knock your socks off.
	All right.
	There you go.
	I'm agenting for him.
	And you know what?
	I'm thinking that's the kind of value we got out of it.
	Just think about the Art Generator itself, the value that he's put into the show by setting this up and maintaining it through several horrible code changes from Headless Drupal to whatever we're running on now.
	PHP.
	Thank you very much, Sir Paul.
	Fantastic work.
	We appreciate you so much.
	A couple other things that were here on the noagendaartgenerator.com, which you can always be Refreshing during the show.
	There's new art there for this episode already.
	There wasn't really... I kind of like Dame Kenny Ben's hooey-hooey cassette.
	It was nice, but it was small.
	Yeah, I couldn't read it.
	It was small.
	Guns for Granny didn't quite work.
	There was an interesting Sir Net Ned, but it was Humpty Dumpty economy.
	There wasn't really anything that we talked about, I don't think, in that regard.
	We had more Yacinda hooey-hooeys.
	Was that... We already had that dollar, right?
	With your head on it, you already had that one?
	Was that for this show?
	I can't remember from correct to record.
	I don't think that was for this past show, was it?
	Oh no, that?
	No, it was for the last show.
	I mentioned on this show that I wanted a copy of the art, but I'd never heard from it.
	We didn't get a big offering.
	Mike Reilly came in with the... I mean, it's beautifully drawn, but I just don't know if we should put two big nipples on the artwork.
	It's a great piece, but it wasn't clear.
	It looks a lot like he took the head from the... What's the boy's name and family guy?
	Yeah, Chris.
	Chris.
	It looks like Chris.
	It's the same colors.
	Anyway, thank you very much, Sir Paul Couture.
	We appreciate very much that you do this.
	Before we move on, I just wanted to say this is a value for value podcast.
	We coined the phrase, we have kind of invented and refined the entire format over the past 15 years.
	Big 15 coming up 26th of October.
	And the value for value really is In my opinion, the only way to go with media, just because of all the problems that advertising brings along with it, and, you know, I've now identified that there is an actual podcast industrial complex, which is quite small, big in numbers.
	There's no billion dollars in advertising running through podcasting.
	I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it.
	There's people double counting with NPR and other things or, you know, iHeartRadio.
	And unbelievably, Bloomberg came out with a story yesterday.
	Did you see this about podcasters?
	I probably did.
	No, so the headline is kind of incorrect, but the headline says, PODCASTERS ARE BUYING MILLIONS OF LISTENERS THROUGH MOBILE GAME ADS!
	Oh yeah, I did read this piece.
	You sent it to me.
	Yes, because I wanted to discuss it briefly.
	But it's not PODCASTERS, it's iHeartRadio.
	And so they've been buying six million downloads a month through a mobile game where, you know, in order to get some digital goody, you have to listen to at least 20 seconds of a podcast, which, and here comes the unbelievable part, is the exact length that needs to be played in order for the IAB, the Interactive Advertising Bureau, to consider that a full download listen to play by a human being.
	Scam.
	Since 2018 they've been doing this.
	They spent over 10 million dollars.
	I'm surprised advertisers put up with any of this.
	It's such horse crap.
	And then the IAB has fallen right in line.
	I mean... Excuse me, I'm... I'm...
	I'm thinking of the era in the 80s when all these magazines had their labs, computer magazines all had these labs and they were doing testing of this and that.
	And the first thing that people started to do was game the testing.
	So there was some, there was also a thing called the Chang modification where somebody, some Chinese kid, Had put a circuit on a Pentium and if you ran it through any of these speed tests, how fast is this computer?
	It would, it would pin the needle.
	It was like, holy mackerel, nothing's this fast.
	How did this kid do it?
	I think I remember this.
	Yeah, it was, I kind of publicized it a bit more than I should have.
	Did he like snip a diode or something simple like that?
	No, he did something.
	No, it was an outside circuit because you can't really snip a diode on a Pentium.
	No.
	But, um, But then we started running into it, PC Magazine, when I was there, we started running into these people, and I can name the name of the company, I think they're still in business, but there was one company in particular that would cheat.
	By the way, this is all a prelude to what happened with Volkswagen diesels and all these diesels, where when the computer in the car said, I think we're being tested, Bill.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's turn down everything so it looks like we get good numbers and then when the test is over we'll go back to normal.
	There was graphics cards that were pulling the same stunt.
	So if it suspected a test or it saw a test coming its way, it would just jack up its own numbers.
	And it was there get these huge numbers.
	We had one guy in the lab, unfortunately, and he's a pretty good friend of mine who caught wind of this trick and made a state's case out of it.
	He was just on a rampage to get these guys not allowed to advertise or anything in between, which wasn't going to happen.
	I can tell you right now.
	But yeah, scams.
	And that's what you're talking about.
	In fact, I know a number of podcasting companies that did similar things.
	Well, also, yes, I do too.
	And I just wanted to point out that there's an industry in Silicon Valley, not just for podcasts, but for clicks, for signups, for inquiries, whatever you need.
	If the price that an advertiser will pay is $27 CPM, so for every 1,000 impressions, clicks, whatever it is, $27, they will come to CEOs and usually around The end of the month, the end of the quarter, or before a funding event, or a board meeting, and they'll say, listen, we got some here for a $25 CPM.
	So you've got the arbitrage in the middle there, $2, you look like a genius.
	And they spin it up and it's pretty much undetectable for a long time.
	They change continuously.
	They have names like Monopoly.
	They're usually game companies or mobile games that people are just making money off of.
	They're part of the scam.
	It's a giant scam.
	It's a giant scam and the advertisers that play along, or I don't know what they're thinking, they're fooling themselves.
	Well, the IAB has responded to this and said, yeah, no, those are valid plays.
	It's 20 seconds.
	Well they've been, they sold out then.
	Of course they sold out!
	And they charge every, every hosting company who wants to be certified by them $50,000.
	Just to get their phony baloney numbers.
	20 seconds does not a podcast make.
	20 minutes, barely.
	Well, CIA podcast.
	We've been doing our own little analysis on some numbers and I do have, I just want to see what kind of apps are used.
	Somewhere out there, John, there is one guy or gal, I'm not sure, who I would like to focus our spotlight on because there's still one person out there who listens to the No Agenda show on a Zoom.
	You think so?
	No, I know so.
	I saw, we tracked it.
	There's about 8 people who use the Roku.
	But that one Zune, the one lone Zune listener, I'm impressed.
	How does he get it?
	What does he do?
	Record it off the web and put it on the Zune?
	And how would you know?
	Because the Zune has, you know, every podcast, every player, every download shows where it's coming from.
	So there's a Zune user, which was a great product by the way.
	One user.
	One.
	It had better fidelity than the Apple, which again, you know, Betamax versus VHS, same thing.
	It doesn't matter.
	Who cares?
	I mean, the people who get the two earbuds in their ears, they get the thing cranked up to max, they listen to lousy music that's poorly recorded.
	Why do they care about the quality of the sound?
	But yeah, that's interesting.
	I think I still have a Zune in the collection somewhere.
	Yeah, let me see.
	We have Pocket Cast is real high for us, Podcast Addict.
	But then we get Antenapod, Castbox, all kinds of cool ones.
	Fountain, Overcast.
	But the Roku's in there.
	People are... We're on Roku.
	Yeah, the guy corresponds with us once in a while.
	The guy who maintains that Roku code.
	Yeah, it's dynamite.
	Because I bitched about it once on the show saying, eh, they fixed it the next day.
	I assume he's still looking at it.
	And there you go.
	So, value for value seems to be a much more honest way.
	We love being at the mercy of y'all.
	It's definitely the most honest way, that's for sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we love being at your mercy.
	It's much better that way.
	Much, much better.
	Yeah, you just bail out and we're done.
	Keeps me on my toes, tell you that.
	Alright, let's thank our executive and associate executive producers who have supported the show.
	Kicking it off with Gene Harris, and I'm looking to see, did you find anything from Gene?
	Yes, I did old stuff, but not this.
	That is so odd.
	I have a number of letters from Gene who sent in things now and again, and it's like, uh... I don't even have them here.
	I have, uh... I got one from Iowa Swine Day from August 16th, a contribution.
	Here's another one of his donations, July 9th.
	I got that.
	I got nothing that's recent.
	I don't either, and so it's kind of out of character for him, but here we go.
	Gene Harris from Winter Park, Florida.
	Wait, is Winter Park in the path?
	Could he be, uh... This is a matter of fact, it is.
	Crap.
	I hope he's okay.
	I believe Winter Park... Oh, wait.
	Winter Park... Oh, no.
	Winter Park's on the... I'm trying to visualize the map in my head space.
	I think it's south of Fort Lauderdale.
	That would be on the other coast.
	Oh, okay.
	That's closer to Orlando.
	I think.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, we don't have a note from Eugene, but thank you for your 1-800-8-1 donation.
	1-800-8-1.
	80081 donation.
	80081. So clearly it's boobs squeezed by sticks.
	I don't know what it is.
	It's the big, giant, floppy ones that are off to the side.
	I don't know what it is.
	But we do appreciate you, ma'am.
	Well, we'll read your note when we get it.
	Yeah, of course.
	Let's give him a double up for now while we have him here.
	You've got karma.
	Alright.
	So we have Brent Young's up at 666 in Los Angeles, California, which is obviously the number you would provide us if you're from Los Angeles.
	If you're from Los Angeles, absolutely.
	A Hollywood producer, Brent Young, he writes, please accept this check.
	He writes with huge letters and a lot of flourish.
	Very difficult to read.
	Please accept this check.
	And that is woefully inadequate.
	Or delinquent.
	Delinquent.
	Please, he needs a de-douching.
	Oh, we got that.
	You've been de-douched.
	Then he has some word I can't read, and he says, my favorite jingle is chemtrails.
	So we can play it at the end.
	My serious are Biting up, acting up, something up like crazy.
	My sciatic nerve maybe?
	Maybe sciatic or I don't know.
	Which heads me for defined there is shift or shit.
	Cirrhosis.
	It's cirrhosis.
	Cirrhosis.
	Whoa.
	Yeah.
	I think cirrhosis is spelled with a C if I'm not mistaken.
	He's got it spelled with an S.
	There she is, blah blah blah, in something thang air, thin air, thang air, the air.
	Viva la no agenda.
	Uh, Brett, the Hollywood knight.
	Now he is a Hollywood knight, our Brett.
	Okay, yes, obviously, yeah, because he's not asking for it.
	I'm looking at his IMDB.
	Which is quite extensive going back to 2006.
	He has done a lot of shorts He has done some documentaries.
	He's done several Spongebob Squarepants Productions.
	I can see that from his writing.
	Donkey Live.
	Let me see.
	Was there anything else?
	That's director.
	Let's just check because soon we will have a producer credit in here.
	The Lost Temple, Flight of the Dragon documentary flying over.
	A lot of documentaries.
	Well, maybe it's a different guy because there's about 40 Brent Youngs in the IMDb.
	Okay, we'll find out.
	He's gonna have to send us his... Yeah, I mean, you can't just claim that.
	We need some proof, bro.
	Well, I think he can claim whatever he wants.
	For 666 bucks, you can be the Queen of England.
	All right.
	Uh, he wanted a chemtrails.
	Chemtrails!
	And a deducing?
	Did we give him the deducing?
	Yeah, we gave him the deducing.
	Okay, chemtrails.
	I guess that's it.
	Uh, H.J.
	Smith?
	In Utrecht, the Netherlands, 334, Adam, I sent you an email with show note 1490.
	That's not how you're supposed to do donations.
	John, would you like to explain?
	Yes, I will explain once again for everyone.
	The word donation has to be in the subject line and then we find them that way.
	Otherwise, Adam gets two, three hundred pieces of email a day.
	I know I get four hundred.
	Yeah.
	And we just, if it doesn't say donation, we just do a sort and boom, there's all the donations in one spot.
	We can look at them.
	But I have him.
	I have him here.
	He has been found.
	In the morning, Adam, love the show since 2009.
	Some suggestions and questions.
	One, I donate one dollar more so as not to evoke Corazon, the Middle East demon.
	So instead of 3-3-3, 3-3-4, what is this Corazon, the Mideast Demon?
	Do we have any idea what that is?
	No, but I think he's negated by the dot-33.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He says, believe me, you don't want him showing up.
	Well, thanks for protecting us.
	2.
	Adam, please be kind to the Germans.
	What?
	They've been guilt-ridden by the war and Hollywood hounds them till this day.
	The truth about the war is protected by law in many countries.
	That's injustice by itself!
	Are we mean to Germans?
	No, I don't think so.
	We ride them about they're stealing the bikes from the Hollanders.
	But that's about it.
	This says as much about the Dutch as it does about the Germans.
	No, man.
	We love our German producers.
	All of them, of course.
	And many have been around for a long time.
	Sorry.
	In fact, didn't we do a report earlier?
	I think it may be because of the German accent.
	Maybe they don't like that.
	The main accent is the Dutch accent, which is the better one.
	That's not true.
	you return a polite message.
	John ignores emails.
	That's not true.
	What emails do you want to receive aside from show notes?
	John, I guess it's for you.
	Well, I'd say donation in the subject line would be good if it has to do with a donation issue.
	If it has to do with some Boots Underground report that you want us to look at, I recommend, and Adam agrees, that you get one of us to start taking them, not both.
	I think Adam will get this one.
	Oh, I think John will get this one.
	It never gets picked up.
	I don't know.
	Just write more interesting headlines or subject lines to get my attention.
	I have no idea.
	And I will say that a lot of people have gotten into the habit of just forwarding Twitter to Adam.
	Oh, it's a Twitter thing for Adam!
	Oh, it's for Adam!
	Oh, it's for Adam!
	And from some people I get 10 emails on a show day morning.
	One after another, you're just going through Twitter and emailing me.
	Please tag me on Twitter.
	That's the appropriate place.
	There's no reason to email me a Twitter link.
	There really isn't.
	I look at Twitter, in my inbox specifically, and so when you email that, it's too much.
	If you have emailed me three times in a row, like just boom, boom, boom, you're doing too much.
	Think about the hundreds of pieces, because I read everything, I have to process it.
	Don't wear down your podcaster.
	Four, what happened to the PR Associates?
	I received that title, but others did stellar work in promoting the show.
	And I guess they have not.
	Yeah, what happened to PR Associate?
	Is that a credit that has since gone by the wayside?
	Well, now that you mention it, I guess it has.
	I don't remember, yeah.
	What was the level for PR Associate?
	I don't think there was one.
	Well, that probably, you've been around a long time, that probably morphed into hit him in the mouth, I'm thinking.
	Anyway, he says, if you have plans to come over, let us know.
	The dollar is pricey and the No Agenda community is large and friendly.
	Yeah, we can party with our dollar over there, John.
	While stocks last.
	Yeah, if you can get over and back, that's the problem.
	Actually, Horowitz and I discussed the great possibilities of going to the UK at this rate of the pound sterling.
	And it's like, yeah, and then you get stuck over there or they do a lockdown.
	I mean, it's just... Oh, yeah, you don't want that.
	It's horrible to even contemplate, so... I mean, even just... You haven't traveled in the last, I don't know... Two years!
	Two years?
	It's been horrific!
	I hate it!
	You know, I took my first flying lesson for the instrument rating on Tuesday.
	I'm gonna fly myself.
	I'm sick of this shit.
	Yeah, okay, well... What?
	Okay, well...
	This is an expensive exercise when it's not necessary or shouldn't be necessary because our civil aviation system should be able to take us to London, you know, out of San Francisco non-stop without a hitch, with good service on board and not a bunch of maniacs running around or anything in between and we shouldn't have to worry about coming and going but now because of these
	Because of the companies themselves who fired all their people because they wouldn't get vaccinated and all the rest of it.
	We end up with this mess.
	And it's not just the pilots.
	Heathrow has limited flights.
	They said 100,000 passengers a day.
	That's it.
	Go away.
	Schiphol's doing the same.
	The aviation system is in collapse.
	It can't be trusted.
	They brought it on themselves and then they're moaning about it.
	They're lying about it.
	They're not being truthful.
	Yeah, that's true, too.
	Anyway, Hendrik does end up by suggesting two World War II documentaries.
	One is Hitler, The Greatest Story Never Told.
	Bet that's a doozy.
	And Europa, The Last Battle.
	So you can look for those on, uh, odyssey.com.
	All right.
	Daniel Daniel, first, in Kuckinow, Wisconsin.
	ITM, my sister Nikki Shrek, hit me in the mouth on Mother's Day of 2021, and I've been an avid listener ever since.
	I know my city's a doozy, and they should know how to pronounce it.
	You were so close last show.
	You got it.
	Ka-ka-na.
	I would look at it as Hawaiian.
	If it's Hawaiian, I think it'd be ka-oo-ka-oo-na.
	Because they pronounce pretty much every word separately.
	Uh, and she needs a, a, a de- a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And that's it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We move on to, uh, Adam... Cineground?
	Cineground?
	I think Cineground sounds about right.
	Kensington, Kansas.
	Kansas don't have a brand!
	333.33 in the morning.
	I did pretty good on that.
	My friend Jordan Detmer hit me in the mouth around June of 2020 as we were starting to realize how big a sham the COVID pandemic was.
	I had recently turned 40 and thought I'd do some numerology donation to celebrate, but life kept getting in the way.
	Anyway, he writes it that way, Jordan, along with nine others, are traveling from Kansas to take in Oktoberfest, Fredericksburg, Texas style.
	Well, that's great.
	That's this weekend.
	Hopefully we'll run into the Podfather.
	That is very possible.
	And we'll be driving on Thursday, so an ideal time to get my first of many donations in.
	For jingles, I'd like, uh, he says, planes bad, trains good.
	It is, in fact, trains good, planes bad.
	Uh, listen to that horn.
	He wants a little foamer action.
	And respects from Rev Al, followed by, oh man, we're doing, going all the way, aren't we?
	Followed by manning with some you're gonna need a Bitcoin.
	Okay, we got all those for you And some millennial air horn karma Goodness, I didn't get that one air Air horn you asking for a lot just a little bit wasn't millennial millennial karma We had one All right.
	You just gonna get some air horn.
	All aboard, train's good, plane's bad.
	Woo-hoo!
	Oh my God!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin.
	Too much.
	So, uh, I'm going to put this one in.
	This is $356 from the Too Hot Tucson meetup, which came in at, uh, express mail.
	Yeah, they have a meetup report today.
	Good.
	Well, they had just a few people to thank on here.
	Brian for a hundred bucks and Dame Beth for a hundred.
	The other ones are under.
	And, uh, they did not designate a, uh, selected, uh, Executive producer, which they've been doing recently.
	You pick one out of your group and make them executive producers.
	So I would say, the only one with a full enough name is Dame Beth.
	So I would put her on the list at, why don't you just go Dame Beth and Brian.
	Uh, as the top donors, and we'll just make them the executive producers for this donation.
	Dame, Beth, and Brian, that's it?
	Yeah.
	That suffices.
	Okay, and... Oops, let me spell that right.
	Okay, good.
	We got that.
	Well, thanks, y'all!
	We love that when you do that at a meet-up.
	That's really appreciated.
	Then we have the Indy Meetup, same thing.
	This is the whole Indy Meetup.
	$240 from Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Switcheroo donation of $240 from the September Indy NA Tribal Meetup raffle, plus another... You skipped Evang... Ev... Evguini Demoskini.
	Oh, I was doing... Oh, I see.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought that was the switcheroo.
	Mistake.
	I didn't know you were putting this one, okay.
	No, this was $3.56.
	This was $3.50.
	Right, okay.
	I don't have a note, so.
	But that was Brian and what?
	It was Dame Beth.
	Dame Beth and Brian.
	And this, and Vin Guini is an associate executive producer.
	$2.50 and gets a double of karma.
	All right.
	You've got... karma.
	Alright, now we got the Indie Meetup from Indianapolis240.
	Switcheroo donation from the September Indie NA Tribal Meetup Raffle, plus another $99.33 from Sir Fodfather.
	Two title, $333.33 for an executive producership for his wife, Doreen Tattnall.
	I don't understand how this math works, but I guess somewhere down below he has the...
	The 9933?
	Which I don't see.
	So what do we do here?
	Well, uh... Do they designate an associate executive producer or not?
	That's very confusing.
	So this is... Yeah, it would be Doreen Tatnell.
	She just gets it.
	Yeah, she says, Doreen opts for no comments in favor of a double-up karma.
	Okay, we'll give her that one then.
	You've got...
	But then we do have- And then, of course, the rest of the group has a bunch of- A bunch of jingles.
	A bunch of jingles.
	You know what you have done?
	69!
	69, dudes!
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	Yay!
	A little story to tell.
	We did it all for them, yes.
	Okay.
	Uh, well, okay.
	Now we're on to Joseph Finley in Louisville, Ohio.
	23456.
	Please make it known to join Dame Tunces, the Data Queen, and myself, Sir Walkman, for the hooey-hooey, hooey-hooey in Traverse City.
	So they have another meetup in Michigan.
	They're just reminding us to go there if you're a Michigonian.
	All right.
	Uh, James Carlson, 225, Associate Executive Producer from Denver.
	I have nothing.
	Do you have a note from James Carlson?
	Let's see what I got.
	Feels like we're missing some notes.
	Yeah, a lot of notes that came in.
	Now I got nothing.
	Okay, another double up, Karma.
	Send us a note if you got one, James.
	You've got... Karma.
	Sir Jeremy Chum Fatty, a.k.a.
	Philip Smith, in Oakville, Ontario, Canada, 2-2-2-2.
	That's a row of ducks.
	Yep.
	ITM John and Ami believes my birthday is on a show day.
	I must donate.
	Stay safe!
	Stay safe!
	Sir Jeremy Chum Fatty, a.k.a.
	Philip Smith, Oakville, Candanavia.
	Not right.
	And that's our last guy is another fairly short list of executive and associate executive producers for show 1490.
	Thank you all for supporting us, execs, associate execs alike.
	We love to thank our producers.
	It's part of the loop, part of how it works, part of how we built this podcast together in the value for value universe.
	It is the new international lifestyle.
	More about it here.
	Thank you again.
	Thank you again to all our execs and associates for producing 1490.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, slave.
	As you were making those comments, I thought of some lyrics for one of our songwriters, our song producers.
	Yeah?
	Using the tune of We Built This City for rock and roll.
	We built this podcast on V for V. We built this podcast.
	We built this podcast on value for value.
	Built this podcast.
	Yeah, something like that, exactly.
	Yeah, maybe we could do something from this millennium.
	That is from 1985?
	No one knows that song anymore.
	It's got a good sound, though.
	Grace Slick is barely... She's still alive.
	Yes, she is.
	I know, I know.
	I used to hang out a bit.
	She's like an old woman.
	She's always bitching about stuff.
	You know, she's very nice.
	Well, I don't know.
	These kids!
	These kids!
	Her daughter, Chyna, was a VJ when I was on MTV.
	She was, you know, kind of off, on, not always.
	And Chyna was really sweet.
	But Grace would come in all the time, and she was funny.
	I liked her a lot.
	She was no-nonsense.
	She would say exactly what she thought.
	She was cool.
	She was cool.
	She is cool, I guess.
	She's still cashing checks.
	I wonder how big they are.
	I don't know about that.
	I'll tell you this much, just as a little interesting aside.
	Roger McGuinn and I are pretty good friends.
	Yes, I correspond with Roger.
	I don't know how much money he makes because he's a writer so he gets ASCAP royalties, but it's the only thing he won't tell me.
	Now why would he?
	Well, I think it'd be kind of, you know, interesting.
	Well, it is none of my business, but it would be nice to know.
	I can't imagine.
	Is it a lot?
	Is it a ton?
	It seems like a lot of money.
	I think some of these guys get a good check every so often.
	Well, I mean, at this point, there's not really sales, so it's going to be your radio, airplay, and streaming.
	I would think at this point... See, that's the problem.
	You're just guessing.
	I would like to know.
	And Grace Slick would be the one I'd love to know if she still gets an ASCAP check.
	All right, I'll ask her.
	We need somebody that works in the offices writing checks.
	That's the problem, is that the money never really goes to the artist.
	It goes in this big black hole called ASCAP or maybe BMI.
	And they don't even know.
	They always have to sue everybody all the time.
	It's a scheisse of business.
	It's a bad business.
	All right.
	Primetime Purge was cancelled.
	It was supposed to be last night, I believe.
	They were going to do yet another very revealing, fantastic primetime court drama where we would see exactly how Trump should be arrested and thrown in the brig.
	I think they cancelled because of the hurricane.
	They wanted, like, we're not going to get attention.
	So that's probably why they can't- Oh yeah, you're probably right.
	But that doesn't matter because the M5M- We can't be below the fold?
	The M5M has already told us where we're at.
	This is a supercut and you listen to this and luckily people just are kind of not watching cable news anymore.
	This is mainly cable news but not all of it.
	And this is just irresponsible.
	This means war.
	That is where we are.
	We are at war with these people.
	These folks are evil.
	There is an ultra-right MAGA contention in this country that wants to overthrow the U.S.
	U.S. government.
	It is a danger to our democracy.
	It is a danger to our way of life.
	The MAGA movement is a threat.
	The extremists that we're dealing with every single day, we've got to kill and confront that movement.
	Clearly, you know, this is a literally call to arms.
	Obviously, Republicans, I think, are the biggest threat to democracy.
	We don't separate right-wing extremists and the Republican Party anymore.
	I see this as a party, a MAGA party, that no longer is confident that they can win elections with votes, and so now they're seeking to enact their political will through violence.
	This is literally what conservative white folks do when they don't get their way.
	They turn violent.
	Today's GOP is no longer a political movement.
	It is a fascist movement.
	And this is why it could be more dangerous than 1860 or the 1930s.
	Clearly, you know, this is a...
	Literally, call to arms.
	Maybe now it is all about the violence.
	It all is about an insurrection.
	It all is, in his mind, about a civil war.
	It feels like we are not just at the brink of a civil war, but that one has already begun.
	The fact that the base is getting smaller, it makes it more dangerous in a lot of ways.
	As your buddy.
	Because those are the people who are willing to do things like take up arms and press the questions that lead to, press the questions and tactics that lead to civil war.
	This is someone who held that office He saw the rally in Ohio the other night.
	Americans, there should be civil war.
	Look at what he's doing last night, as you know, that, you know, more or less salutes that are either QAnon or almost look like Nazism.
	You saw the rally in Ohio the other night.
	Trump is there ranting and raving for more than an hour.
	And you have these rows of young men with their arms raised.
	These craze deranged folks who want to impart evil in every facet of our society.
	I I mean, what are they doing?
	Are they just providing cover for what's going to happen?
	Or are they trying to rile people up?
	Or are they just talking crap?
	Because this is really, this is going a bit far, I think.
	I would say.
	Now what was the, where did the supercut come from?
	This is from all over the place.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah, but it has me a little worried.
	I don't like this.
	Because, you know, they're just trying to... They're troublemakers.
	They are big troublemakers.
	Now this, I think, was what was supposed to have been revealed, you know, the big surprising evidence that maybe this fell through, maybe, you know, I think everyone was ready to pounce on it, and that's probably why CBS brought it up.
	Tonight we're learning new details about this man, 26-year-old Anton Lunek of Brooklyn, seen here on January 6th.
	Turns out he was the man who allegedly received a call via the White House switchboard on the day of the attack.
	The news of such a call was revealed Sunday night on 60 Minutes by former January 6th committee investigator Denver Riggleman.
	That's a pretty big ah-ha moment.
	Wait a minute.
	Someone in the White House was calling one of the rioters while the riot was going on?
	On January 6th.
	Absolutely.
	And you know who both ends of that call?
	I only know one end of that call.
	I don't know the White House end.
	Which I believe is more important.
	CBS News has learned that Lunick traveled to D.C.
	the night before the Capitol attack with two friends.
	The call allegedly lasted just nine seconds and was made to Lunick's phone at about 4.30 p.m.
	It's a butt dial.
	It's unknown whether there was an exchange or if the call was sent straight to voicemail.
	A CBS News review of Lunick's case finds he left the Capitol more than an hour earlier at 3.18 p.m.
	after about 10 minutes inside.
	Illinois Democrat Rajah Krishnamoorthi is one of Riggleman's former U.S.
	House colleagues.
	I think that it's fair to say we all knew that the White House was somehow involved with January 6th on the very day that the insurrection was happening.
	Any information about this particular phone call would help to develop that narrative further.
	Hey, did you hear what he said?
	Yeah, but I wanted, I want you to play it again, but that guy is in the same milieu with that voice as, uh, The hell's the guy with the mustache who was Obama's campaign manager for a while and he's got a podcast?
	Yeah, the fart sniffer.
	Bolton.
	No, not Bolton.
	Bolton doesn't... No, this guy, believe me, this sounds exactly like... The guy with the mustache.
	Come on, chatroom, who was Obama's campaign manager which wasn't Bolton?
	Oh, Axelrod.
	Axelrod, he sounds exactly like Axelrod, with that same... And the reason I can spot it this quickly, because I don't have these clips, but I do have some clips coming up, because Axelrod also has a podcast, and if you follow the news, CNN is killing almost all of its podcasting division, thinking, what's the point of throwing money at this, because they're losing their ass, and Axelrod's got one of them.
	The last thing they want is for it to end up on what the hell are these podcasts?
	What the hell?
	What's wrong with these podcasts?
	That's it.
	Let's listen to Axelrod.
	They debated certain words, and that does matter.
	And because when the president says terrorist attack, that's a whole lot different than when Dianne Fein says it.
	Shut up!
	Absolutely.
	And the word has taken on a different meaning since 9-11.
	Illinois Democrat Raja Krishnamoorthi is one of Riggleman's former U.S.
	House colleagues.
	I think that it's fair to say we all knew that the White House was somehow involved with January 6th on the very day that the insurrection was happening.
	Any information about this particular phone call would help to develop that narrative further.
	Any information on this phone call would help develop that narrative further.
	The narrative that the White House was in control of the mob with a nine-second call.
	These people are crazy.
	The nine-second call.
	These people are crazy.
	They're insane.
	Here's a follow-up.
	We reached out to Anton Lunek through his attorney to get more details about that call, but didn't get a response.
	A spokesman for the January 6th Select Committee didn't directly address Riggleman's claims about the call, but said Riggleman left the panel in April and has limited knowledge of the committee's work.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right.
	And your buddy John Heilman, he's all in.
	What happened to that guy?
	He became... He got woke about... Big, big shill.
	He got woke some years back.
	He was in the Civil War supercut.
	Yeah, yeah I heard him.
	That's sad.
	Yeah, well, you get the... You're... It's putting butter on the bread thing.
	Oh, he knows where his bread is buttered.
	Feeding his family.
	Well, speaking of such... A couple living in suburban Maryland has entered a new guilty plea in connection with a plot to sell military nuclear secrets.
	Jonathan Tobey, a a former nuclear engineer, could serve at least 27 years in prison.
	Diana Tobey could face more than a dozen years.
	The couple allegedly tried to sell information about submarine technology to Brazil, hiding data in a peanut butter sandwich.
	Huh?
	All right.
	Yeah, yeah, there you go.
	What is up with that?
	What kind of spy craft is that?
	Peanut butter sandwich.
	Yeah.
	Who knew?
	You know, sometimes... Are we selling Brazil secrets from our sub... Okay, whatever.
	Good work!
	I do have a clip here that I pulled for you.
	This is, what is this person?
	She is a, she's around the corner.
	She's a sociology PhD from UC Berkeley.
	Her name is Laurel Westbrook.
	And she has a theory as to why cis, I think she might even say white cis men, but why cisgendered men, that's you and I, John, but more you, why you are so afraid of trans women or trans men.
	And I'm not saying you are, but she is saying that cisgender... She's saying I am.
	She's saying you are.
	And I'm calling you out specifically because you are the one that always comes with the trans clips and the queer clips.
	I'm mostly non-binary.
	Okay, well let's listen to what the problem is.
	Because it's enlightening.
	It's important to note that this different perception of transgender men is not a result of greater cultural acceptance.
	It's not like...
	Rather, it's the assumed lack of a naturally occurring penis, the hallmark of biological maleness, and its assumed superiority to femaleness renders transgender men non-threatening in gender-segregated spaces, including bathrooms and sports teams.
	Oh, it's also for women.
	This belief in the innate superiority and threat of male bodies accounts for why cisgender opposition to transgender inclusion organizes predominantly around the presence of transgender women and not transgender men.
	This suggests that gender panics around transgender people might more accurately be termed penis panics, as they are fueled by the terror of penises, particularly penises where they should not be because of where they are in the world.
	Women's restrooms or locker rooms or sports teams isn't dangerous to cisgender women and girls.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	It is odd to see a penis where one does not expect a penis.
	Thank you for pointing that out.
	I don't know if we have to call it penis panic.
	She likes saying the word a lot.
	Penis, yeah.
	I think she might have one.
	I'm just looking at her.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I can't tell.
	Let me take a look myself.
	Do you have her clip?
	Do you have her clip?
	Oh, you're going to look at her name, of course.
	Yes.
	What is her name again?
	Laurel Westbrook.
	Laurel?
	L-A-U-R-E-L Westbrook.
	W-E-S-T-B-R-O-O-K.
	So while you're looking that up, I'll play a nonsensical clip.
	Next, Forbes' new list of the 400 richest Americans.
	For the first time, Elon Musk is number one.
	He made $60 billion this year, but overall, the net worth of the richest Americans dropped this year by 11%.
	Number two on the list is Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.
	Bill Gates is number three, despite giving billions to charity.
	Mark Zuckerberg suffered the biggest loss.
	He is nearly $77 billion poorer this year.
	All right.
	Did you take a look at it?
	Yeah.
	Now, the problem is there's a lot of Laurel Westbrooks, including some blonde babe who's pretty attractive.
	And then on the far end.
	A PhD from UC Berkeley.
	You couldn't add that to the search?
	I guess I could have, but this one has white sidewalled marine haircut with the hair stacked straight up, so it looks like... Ah, that sounds right.
	It looks like she's smugly.
	She looks like a smugly non-binary.
	Yeah, she's got a round face, kind of oval.
	Well, there's a round-faced one here, too.
	Let me put PhD Berkley.
	Hey, John.
	Let's not obsess over it, okay?
	Let's just move on.
	I gotta obsess!
	I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be a hop!
	A few people will think.
	But I should mention, she has the picture with the white sidewalls, and then she's got an older picture, which makes her face look round, but when she has the white sidewalls and this hair stacked up in a kind of a parallel line, so it's this big top, it doesn't make her face look... she's done a good job of not making her face look round.
	Good work!
	Yes, fascinating.
	We do have a few people to thank, not that many, but a few.
	And I just have to scroll back up to the top one, which is in Austin, Texas, and it's Austin Johnsey.
	Austin from Austin.
	$133.31.
	Layola, Paige, Holland in San Antonio, Texas.
	We've got Texas.
	Texas in the house!
	111.11.
	MJ in Los Angeles, California.
	111.11.
	James Morgan in Surprise, Arizona.
	Surprise!
	Hey, MJ also needed a de-douching.
	Ah, de-douching for MJ.
	You've been de-douched.
	We've got MJ, now we've got JM.
	James Morgan, Surprise Arizona, $100.33.
	David Hutchinson, $100 from Olympia, Washington.
	Yes, we've got this donation puts my beautiful and challenging wife on the Dame Hood roster.
	Those 47 months of donating, 11-11 on the 11th, along with other sporadic donations, finally paid off.
	Please pronuncicate her Dame Chaos Pixie of the South Puget Sound and put her on the birthday list since she's revisiting 39 on Saturday.
	She requests margaritas and mozzarella sticks at the round table.
	Beautiful!
	You got it.
	Lan Hamburger?
	What do you think?
	Is that Lan or Elon?
	Uh, in Bellingham, Washington, $90.
	I don't know.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Duke of Luna, lover of America and boobs.
	Locust, North Carolina, $8.008.
	Another $8.008 from Benjamin Perry in Chimicum, Washington.
	Gary Blatt.
	In Chesterbrook, Pennsylvania, 7777, Marjorie Langford in Nogoni, Michigan, as a birthday donation switcheroo to Bill.
	74.
	Bill Langford.
	A person with no name in Portland, Oregon, $73.
	Do you have a blank there, too?
	with no name in Portland, Oregon, $73.
	Do you have a blank there too?
	Yes, I do.
	Corey Rule in Marion, Iowa, $7183.
	7183.
	And he has a douchebag callout for Hatchet Frank.
	Douchebag!
	It's been far too long, he says.
	QQ.
	I know QQ.
	I met him.
	QQ!
	He, she is in Key West, Florida. 6666.
	From the last episode, donations are slowing, so kicking it out with 6666.
	What is my night title?
	I was told I have to ask for the official paper.
	I have to send address to them, too.
	What is Yak Company name?
	Cite.
	So he wants to know the Yak Ball Company.
	I think he's from a former Soviet state.
	I met him.
	He came from Florida to Bluffton.
	To South Georgia.
	I met him.
	He came just to say hi and hang out.
	I'm not quite sure.
	So I think he is a knight, but he has to, I don't know.
	Dude, just send me an email.
	We'll work it out.
	We'll figure it out.
	Yeah, send an email and we'll give you the... Send me an email.
	I don't have the... I'd give you the late yak guy's phone number, but I moved off the queue.
	Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 6502.
	Taylor Kramer, Mission, Texas, 6278.
	James Buell in Vista, California.
	6-0-6 JD in Elkhorn, Nebraska.
	KD in Elkhorn, Nebraska.
	606. Hendrick Jalink in Heritage.
	Herd, Netherlands.
	Hendrik Jalink in Herd.
	Hendrik Jalink in Herd. Herd. Herd. Herd. Herd. Yeah. 55-55.
	Stefan Trockels in Sust. Sust. 55-33, and he's in Estonia.
	Now we need some reports.
	Yeah.
	Sir Baez Grace in Jacksonville, Florida, 55-10.
	Anonymous zookeeper has got a note.
	Like, like a big note.
	It says nothing.
	It says anonymous zookeeper.
	A big note.
	Thank you.
	How does he put that on there?
	Sir Luke, the Earl of London and Southeast in London, UK.
	Chance Barnett in San Angelo, Texas.
	One penny for the jar, $5.001.
	So it goes in the jar.
	Scott Nelson, another $5.001 from Council Bluffs, Iowa.
	The following people are $50 donors, name and location.
	Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina.
	Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
	Amy Zipkin in Greensboro, Georgia.
	Jeremy Hirschman in Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
	Alec Campos in Full Shear, Texas.
	Needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Douglas Engstrom in Sandy Lake, Pennsylvania, who I got because of something I put in a newsletter, which is humorous.
	Robert Cardinal in Hinesville, Georgia.
	Matthew Dixon in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	Greg Hartlaub in Cincinnati, Ohio.
	Sonny Peng in Lee, UK.
	Dale Fitch in Hendersonville, North Carolina.
	Josh Springer in Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Another blank in Yankee Town, Florida.
	You know, Eric, the back office is now mobile.
	They've moved out of their home.
	I think they've chosen the gypsy lifestyle.
	And so he was doing this from his mobile office.
	And he did say it could be wonky for a show or two.
	I guess he didn't clear that with you.
	Oh, there was Yankee Town, Florida.
	Thanks.
	Shauna Norberg in Seattle, Washington.
	Chris Goodman in Leander, Texas.
	And then we have a long note from Andrew Garland Yeah, I will reply to you, Arland, since he says brand new listener here.
	Garland, Garland.
	Yeah, Garland.
	Brand new listener here, feel like should have been here all along, wanted to announce my presence briefly, so thank you.
	He's a truck driver, he's got a lot of fun things to say.
	Yeah, very funny note, but it's long.
	It's long.
	And what he did say is, all of your listeners must be rich!
	I'm not, but I'm going to kick in because I truly enjoy a show that talks about all the crap I've been red-pilled to that my Hillary Democrat vax-loving nurse of a wife thinks I'm crazy for believing.
	Okay.
	Welcome, welcome.
	It only gets better.
	Brett Lemons in Mitchell, Indiana.
	Scott Brinkley in Christianburg, Virginia.
	Douglas Ellis in New York and Shane Morrison in Clark, New Jersey.
	Lodi is represented with Scott McCarthy.
	Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado.
	Richard Gardner, Sir Richard, parts unknown, New York, I think.
	And last but not least, Sir Alan Bean.
	Now, we did miss somebody was on here, which may be one of the blanks, which is this Coran woman who wrote a note in, a very nice note.
	I wanted to read it.
	But I was more interested in the way she pronounced her last name because it was, I've never seen this, C-O-A-H-R-A-N.
	And I don't have it here.
	I'll get to that next show because I do have some clips, in fact, I wanted to play about her and her name.
	Ray Howard says, he came in with 50, he says, could I grab one of those American de-douchings before they're gone?
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh, you hear that?
	Hold on a second.
	Uh-oh, that one has to be thrown back.
	That's typical of bad quality.
	Bad quality.
	It's a Chinese de-douching.
	Yeah, let's get you the American.
	You've been de-douched.
	Better, better, better, better.
	Much better.
	And those are our producers, 15 and above.
	Thank you very much for supporting the show, Value for Value.
	We talked about it extensively earlier.
	Of course, there's people who come in under 50 for reasons of anonymity, but also for a lot of these sustaining donations, which you can make up yourself.
	We have some fun ones that are all laid out.
	And again, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1490.
	Now, two quick make-goods before we move on.
	We have one from Niklas Barris.
	Now, I remember him from the last episode, and he supported us.
	I think it was an executive producership.
	It was even an instant knighthood.
	He said, I couldn't risk being destined to forever douchebaggery in case de-douchings don't get restocked.
	So please, de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And Jack Wilson says, Hey, I did not get called up to the podium during the nighting ceremony on 1480.
	You called my request of ribeye and backwoods apple pie moonshine, but failed to give me a proper nighting.
	I sent John a couple of emails asking me to get a proper nighting, but he's too busy archiving to check his messages.
	Does this qualify me for a Black Knight title?
	Why, yes, I think it does.
	Yeah.
	I think it does.
	And let me see if he is, uh, and he is on the list.
	You're on the list.
	We will make good and, uh, let me, uh, put the, uh, ribeye and your, uh, Woods apple pie moonshine back on the table.
	They, it's, it's a new one by the way, because of course, you know, even though you weren't, or maybe especially you weren't here, people snarfed it right up.
	All right.
	Thank you all very much.
	Let me give you all a Goat Karma just in case you need it.
	it.
	Thank you for supporting us.
	You've got our money.
	And here's the list.
	We've got Sir Jeremy Champati, a.k.a.
	Philip Smith, celebrates today.
	David Hutchinson, happy birthday to his beautiful and challenging wife, who visits 39 on October 1st.
	Marjorie Langford, happy birthday to Bill Langford, turning 47.
	And Billy Bones, apparently celebrating his birthday.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	Oh, no.
	Eh, take that back.
	There's no title change.
	What am I talking about?
	There's no title changes.
	There should be.
	No, there's no title change.
	Well, I put sent one in.
	Which one?
	Well, I don't... It didn't show up, but it's... One of our knights has become a baronet.
	Well, I don't have it on the list.
	Ah, it's gonna get moved.
	Yeah.
	Sunday.
	Sunday, Sunday.
	Okay, Sunday.
	Sunday, Sunday.
	How about this?
	We do have two... Actually, we have one daming, one knighting.
	So, if you can give a blade.
	I do.
	Oh, here it is.
	Sorry.
	Thank you.
	Mrs. Hutchinson, why don't you step up here?
	And Jack Wilson, both of you have supported or been supporting the best podcast in the universe with $1,000 or more.
	That brings you up here and pronuncication is official for you.
	I hereby pronuncicate you...
	Dame Chaos, Pixie of the South, Puget Sound, and Sir Jack, Black Knight of the Industrial Laundries.
	For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Margaritas and Mozzarella Sticks, Ribeye and Backwoods, Apple Pie and Moonshine.
	Add to that some geishas and sake, some ginger ale and gerbils, sparking cider and escorts, bong hits and bourbon, breast milk and pablum, cowgirls and coffin varnish, and, oh yeah, mutton and mead.
	Head over to noahdentonation.com slash rings.
	Let us know exactly where to send it all.
	You get the ring, which is a Signet ring.
	You can seal your important correspondence with it, with the provided wax, and of course, a certificate of authenticity.
	Thanks again, everybody.
	Yo, yo, they are cranking up for the next month.
	We got lots of meetups happening including the 21st of October in Copenhagen.
	I was asked to mention that early because apparently in Copenhagen they need a month to get anything organized.
	I don't know why that is exactly.
	And here's the Too Hot Tucson Meetup Report.
	This is Surly Mofo here at the Too Hot Tucson Meetup.
	In the morning!
	Hi all boys, this is Baroness Beth.
	It's 6 o'clock.
	Do you know where your rain sticks are?
	Hi, this is Patty Ann here in the Sonoran Desert and it's about 30 degrees celsius.
	Having a great time.
	JCD, you're my man.
	Hi John and Adam, it's Coyote from the troll room crashing your meetup.
	Hey, this is Brian from Tempe, just saying, college towns can be friends.
	Hey John and Adam, this is Tim, down from the Oregon Local 33 to my first No Agenda meetup, the Too Hot Tucson, and having a great time making new friends.
	This is Vince the Beatboxer, over here at the No Agenda meetup celebrating my 24th trip around the sun.
	This is Vince's mom.
	I'm here too.
	Okay.
	All right, Vince's mom.
	Thank you.
	Here's what's coming up.
	Today, the Berman and Refugees meet up at six o'clock Milwaukee time, Waterford Stillhouse in Waterford, Wisconsin.
	Oh, that was, oh, I see.
	September 30th, Raleigh has been canceled.
	All right.
	And Friday we have, this is 30th, Let Them Eat Bugs Meetup, 6 o'clock central, Presley's in Houston, Texas.
	No agenda, I must be high.
	Number four, the meetup at 7 o'clock on Friday, McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Grill in Toronto, Ontario.
	Central Balkan, The Traveling Slave is back again, 7... 8 o'clock, Zagreb.
	Zagreb time at Sisi Bar Aktuel in Hrvatska, Croatia.
	Go say hi to Alex.
	That should be a fun one.
	I'm looking forward to a report.
	We know you're there in Croatia.
	Uh, 1st of October, Saturday, Red 33, Red 33, Harvest Season Meetup, 2.30, Eastern Castle Island Brewery, Norwood, Massachusetts.
	Say hi to Sir Nathan Lee Miller, Foster for me.
	Chaotic goodnight of the White Lodge.
	Saturday as well, SoFlu Soiree, 3 o'clock Eastern, Beefs O'Brady in Punta Gorda, if it's being held.
	We do not have confirmation.
	Hope everything's okay.
	333 Spooks and Slaves, 333 Eastern, Harper's Ferry Brewery, Purcellville, Virginia, Spook Central.
	Join like...
	Minded Folk at 333 Central as well on Saturday.
	The Harvest Hall at Hotel Vinn in Grapevine, Texas.
	Dublin's No Agenda Meetup, which will be at, it says TPM.
	Maybe that was meant to be 1 p.m.
	It's Irish Standard Time.
	Kibon's Port Weatherspoons, Dublin, Ireland.
	Go take a look at noagendameetups.com for exact starting time.
	And finally, the Cancun Dollar Drinks Heavy Party.
	Party time!
	Six o'clock, Cancun.
	Guandola Plaza, Zona Centra Avenue in Cancun.
	Dude, we are so international!
	We had a lot of international meetups.
	Got another one in Victoria, BC on the 30th.
	We have Bayern, Brun, Bavaria, Deutschland on the 8th.
	We got Peterborough, Canada on the 14th.
	Oh, Los Angeles on the 15th.
	That's real foreign.
	And then Copenhagen is on the 21st.
	And there you go.
	It's quite a lot.
	NoagendaMeetups.com is where you can find out where all these meetups are.
	You get all the particulars, all the details.
	It's run by our knight, Sir Daniel, with Mimi in the back office.
	We really appreciate all of these producer-organized meetups that you are doing all over the world.
	It makes a big difference to have this community meet in person.
	NoagendaMeetups.com.
	If you can't find one, start one yourself!
	Like a party.
	All the nights and days.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	You want to be where you won't be.
	Triggered on hell's flame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Like a party.
	All right, let's check ISOs.
	You got your ISOs?
	I I have four ISOs.
	Okay, let's go.
	Let's just go in order.
	And talk a little more in the mic, please.
	Let's go with great.
	You really gotta get on the mic.
	Great, very cool.
	Now that is the ISO that should win.
	Really?
	Great, very cool.
	Okay.
	That's our podcast.
	All right.
	What else?
	Next one is magical.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	Oh, sorry.
	That was oh, wow.
	This is magical.
	You played oh, wow instead of magical.
	It's a magical moment.
	It's a magical moment.
	It's a moment.
	Can I get to play oh, wow again?
	I like that one.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	I like that one better than great.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Then I got mm, yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Let me see.
	What do I have?
	Where's Jackie?
	Couldn't resist.
	This is the beginning of a great journey for you.
	Too long.
	Maybe this one.
	How's everybody doing?
	Oh, I gotta laugh!
	I gotta laugh!
	Yeah, it's still long and it's... How's everybody doing?
	That's not long.
	She just sounds so stoned.
	That's why.
	Okay, let's compare.
	I thought your oh wow was actually better.
	Let me see.
	Oh wow.
	Can we do oh wow as a compromise?
	Okay, we can do oh wow.
	Yeah, I think that'd be good.
	It's a good compromise.
	It definitely said it a lot.
	We haven't done any COVID, so I do need to play one COVID clip.
	Which is from our director of the CDC, Madame Walensky.
	She should have a pashmina.
	Talk to Fifi.
	And she has asked a question about Paul Offit, one of the doctors who was on the FDA advisory board who voted against the most recent vax, which is now being offered, I should say.
	Um, and he, and you know, the clips we've played, it sounds like he's like, I don't want anything to do with this.
	I said, I said no!
	I said no!
	That's pretty much what he said.
	So let's, so how does the director of CDC react to his saying no?
	Dr. Paul Offit, an infectious disease and vaccine expert at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, he's also a member of the FDA Advisory Committee, has been critical of this updated booster.
	He says that a healthy young person really is unlikely to even benefit from a booster dose.
	It should be targeted more specifically to those who really are most likely to benefit.
	And I wonder if you agree with that assessment and whether just even saying that adds to what's been, as you know, an ongoing criticism of CDC messaging that COVID vaccines, COVID itself, the messaging has been confusing.
	So first, deep respect to Dr. Offit.
	Here's what I will say about our updated... What do you think she's going to say in answer to that?
	Here's what I will say.
	We think that the vaccines are safe and effective and he's just gonna ignore it.
	Even better.
	So first, deep respect to Dr. Offit.
	Here's what I will say about our updated vaccine.
	We are simplifying our message.
	The message is you need to get your fall booster vaccine.
	So go ahead and get it.
	If you're over the age of 12, if you've received your primary series, if you're more than two months out of your last shot, you can get an updated vaccine.
	And so we've intentionally simplified the message so it's very, very clear.
	We've simplified the message.
	So she is answering a non-existent question as though the whole problem was the complexity of the message.
	It was way too complex.
	But she completely ignores the fact that, you know, the guy said no.
	It's crazy.
	It's the way you do it.
	She's pretty good, by the way.
	That's good bureaucratic response.
	Better than she's done before, for sure.
	Do you have one to leave us with?
	She's learning.
	Do you have one to leave us with, or what you got?
	Oh, we got the...
	I don't have any one.
	I got some, some, uh... Well, yeah, let's... This is educational, and it's gonna take us a couple of minutes, but let's do it so we can catch up.
	Okay.
	It was Iran and Starlink.
	Iran and Starlink.
	Oh.
	Internet in a suitcase.
	Oh, shoot.
	Fail.
	How promising is that?
	His company, SpaceX, could make its Starlink satellite-based internet available in Iran.
	How promising is that?
	How would that work?
	So I, myself, am not a tech expert, Marie-Louise, but when I speak to my friends who are, they will argue that this is an important development.
	Now, what's challenging, I'll tell you the challenges is that, for example, in Ukraine, Starlink has played an important role in providing Internet up for up to a couple hundred thousand people.
	The challenge is that whereas in Ukraine, which is a a country which is allied with the United States.
	The U.S. has a strong presence there, and the Ukrainian government eagerly wanted this internet access.
	None of those things are true in the Iranian context.
	And so logistically, it's much more challenging because you're going to have to essentially smuggle in these internet kits through neighboring countries, and then there's a financial It was seen as a big success after Russia hit Ukraine's internet access.
	But the key difference was Ukraine wanted internet access.
	of these are insurmountable obstacles.
	So just to make sure I understand the comparison, Starlink went into Ukraine.
	It was seen as a big success after Russia hit Ukraine's internet access.
	But the key difference was Ukraine wanted internet access.
	They wanted people to be able to communicate.
	Iran would not want people to be able to communicate over Starlink satellites.
	Exactly.
	I think the Iranian government wants to, it's a police state, so it wants to control communication, wants to control information, and wants to be able, if necessary, to essentially throttle the internet so it can repress people in the dark.
	And so, you know, outside internet access coming in would be very much viewed as a threat by the Iranian government.
	Yeah, this is the whole Arab Spring internet in a suitcase gambit.
	This whole thing, this is really, yeah, but it's amped up because of Starlink and you know that Elon's gonna get some good attention from our government because he's doing a service to everybody.
	He's doing what he's told to do.
	He's doing a very good job.
	He's doing a very good job.
	So let, but part two is kind of interesting.
	I just think just from this, uh, kind of the strategic aspect, part two pretty much makes it clear that this won't be that hard to do if you don't mind taxpayer money going into it.
	But the reality is that, you know, Iran is a country which prohibits satellite dishes and it prohibits alcohol.
	And yet there's probably 30 million satellite dishes in Iran.
	And according to the regime itself, there's a problem with alcoholism.
	So smuggling small devices into Iran, which are probably about the size of a pizza box, I would say on balance is not an overwhelming risk.
	It's a little bit bigger than a pizza box.
	Yeah, you have one.
	I thought that you could add a little color to this report.
	It is not a big box, but it's definitely not a pizza box.
	I'll just say again, This is some amazing technology.
	I am blown away that it even works at all.
	You take these three pieces.
	No, two pieces, really.
	No, there's a stand for the satellite.
	You stick the pole from the satellite dish, which is a rectangle, into that.
	You connect that wire to the hub, which is a Wi-Fi thing.
	And that Wi-Fi thing, you plug into the wall.
	Then you got to do the typical select your Wi-Fi network to, you know, you have to, your phone has to select that new Wi-Fi network to set it up.
	And that's it.
	And then the satellite self-adjusts and it just works.
	Now it's not great for podcasts because of the physical distance.
	There is limitation and you will have some latency, but in a pinch.
	Oh, if you're just surfing the web.
	I'm reading news feeds.
	Oh, no, you can do Roku with this thing.
	I mean, it's great.
	I get high speed.
	What is the bandwidth?
	You must have checked it.
	Well, it varies, of course, but it's between 100 megabits per second and 15.
	You know, it can vary sometimes a little bit, but in general, I've never had a problem.
	If you start to download a big file, you can see it progressively.
	The whole system is assigning bandwidth.
	And it gets faster.
	I don't know.
	It seems like a cool thing to hack or a cool thing to blow some of those satellites out of the sky.
	I mean, we need some action on this.
	Elon's just getting... Well, I'm sure that they don't like the idea.
	The Iranians.
	This is the second shot at this we had and we can't keep doing this over and over.
	We'll talk about that in the next show.
	I do have some clips that talk about how it may be us behind all the action.
	Again, I'm flabbergasted.
	It stuns me every time.
	It's crazy.
	Deconstruction complete for today?
	Well, we're never complete, of course.
	We got some Hugh Allison coming up in the end-of-show mixes, Dee's Laughs, William York, and Tom Starkweather, another one of his fantastic historical documents, which is what all of his end-of-show mixes turn out to be.
	Up next on noagendastream.com, you can find it in the troll room, trollroom.io.
	We've got Behind the Schemes.
	Yeah, that should be a good one.
	Make sure you give that a listen.
	And we return on Thursday.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	Actually, I'll be back on Sunday.
	I don't know what Adam's going to do.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's the second Thursday.
	Enjoy, John.
	I'll be here by myself.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	Until then, adios mofos and such. . . .
	New York has a brand.
	We have a brand.
	New York has a brand.
	And when people see it, it means something.
	You know, when we go there, it's not, Kansas doesn't have a brand.
	Yo.
	Yo.
	Oh, when you go there, okay, you're from Kansas.
	No.
	Well, you know what?
	Come on, brother.
	But New York has a brand.
	As the world turns, be curious and yearn to learn.
	Bill Gates try to block out the sun like Monty Burns.
	I want the sovereignty of bodily autonomy.
	Coerce you with this medical experiment seems odd to me.
	Stick it in your arm, act like there's no possible arm.
	Myocarditis and blood palsy, you're in need for alarm.
	You're in the alarm.
	Take it at your own risk, what the hell is this?
	Few doctors give you objective advice, much less follow-up tips.
	Advocating for free speech, you disagree, only adds to your integrity.
	If you asking me, missed me with the poison, thought it was me, BBD.
	Ricky Bell, Michael Bivens, Ronnie DeVoe.
	Pusha T says, if you know, then you know.
	Come on to the show, October 6th, 8pm.
	If you don't know, now you know.
	If you see something, say something.
	It's more than a slogan.
	It's how we protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our communities.
	We use the safety rule by recognizing and reporting suspicious activity.
	It's about all of us.
	Why do I CSAVE?
	To protect my wife and our daughters.
	Department of Homeland Security.
	See, say, day.
	It's got the weirdest eyes.
	Bug it out.
	Bug it out.
	Why do I see, say, protect my wife and our daughters, to make my community safer?
	September 25th is see, say, day.
	Posts on social media using hashtag YICsay.
	They're mugging out.
	Authorities are investigating whether sabotage is the cause of leaks in the Nord Stream gas pipelines connecting Russia to Europe.
	Detected damage simultaneously at three underwater pipes in the Baltic Sea.
	At the very same time that leaks in these pipelines were detected, Swedish officials reported two powerful undersea explosions, each one of which ...was equivalent to hundreds of pounds of TNT.
	And these explosions were at least equivalent to 250 pounds of TNT each, so they're quite big.
	Only a very professional organization could do this.
	Only a big country could do it.
	The leaks are under investigation.
	Their initial reports...
	Indicating that this may be the result of an attack or some kind of sabotage, but these are initial reports and we haven't confirmed that yet.
	But if it is confirmed, that's clearly in no one's interest.
	Germany, Denmark and the US all fear it could be sabotage.
	The Kremlin says it's extremely concerned about the leaks.
	But her Polish counterpart alleged that the leaks are sabotage, after the leaders toured an energy facility in Poland.
	In a move that Europe hopes will ease its energy crisis, leaders have inaugurated a new pipeline delivering gas from Norway to Poland.
	This is the red line, is the line of the Baltic pipe, which was inaugurated yesterday, just as these explosions occurred.
	There will be no longer Nord Stream 2.
	We will bring it in.
	If at all possible, prevent the Nord Stream 2 from ever being completed.
	Is that something that is being discussed with allies?
	Is that something that's being contemplated?
	Absolutely.
	I'm not going to get into the specifics here today, but we will work with Germany to ensure that the pipeline does not move forward.
	If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.
	But how will you do that?
	Exactly.
	Since the project and control of the project is within Germany's control.
	We will, uh... I promise you we'll be able to do it.
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