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1445: Trusted Flaggers

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	Shut it down, shut it down.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, April 24th, 2022.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1445.
	This is no agenda.
	Roots on the East Coast ground and broadcasting live from the home of IBM's Global HQ, Armark, New York.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm groggy, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	Wait a minute!
	I mean, you're groggy.
	You've got an extra two hours today.
	Yeah.
	Is that why you're groggy?
	Do you know why IBM's international headquarters are in Armonk?
	I don't.
	Ha-ha!
	Ha-ha!
	Okay, you're going to tell me, though.
	You're going to tell me why.
	Yeah, in the 1950s, there was such a threat of nuclear attack that they figured that New York City was the number one target and they weren't going to put up with it, so they moved their international headquarters to Armand.
	Oh, I remember that.
	Yes, I do remember that story.
	Which is considered a safe place in a nuclear attack.
	Our monk is home to the Curry homestead.
	For the same reason, I'm sure.
	Actually, my grandfather was in real estate after World War II, and he bought a lot of real estate up here.
	And of course, he had a clue.
	He had a clue and did quite well with that.
	Not super.
	So the house was built in 1845.
	My grandparents moved in in 1929.
	And it's been in the family.
	In 1995, Don and Meg, after my grandparents died, they acquired it.
	And the property's gotten a little bit smaller, but it's still pretty big.
	The crazy thing is, right across the road, because this is Westchester, this is Connecticut pretty much, there's a $25 million horse farm.
	It's crazy.
	Everything here is hedge fund guys and BMWs, Mercedes, Rolls Royce, the whole place is, you know, all the rich people.
	You know, Teslas?
	Oh yeah, tons of Teslas, of course, tons of Teslas.
	Yeah.
	So, first question.
	Why don't we always start at this time?
	This was kind of enjoyable for me.
	Well, you like it?
	Well, you know, so normally I get up at 5.15 and, you know...
	And you get up too early.
	No, because I need to do everything in the morning and it's perfectly timed.
	And so by the time 11 rolls around, which is what time it is for me to start, everything's good, perfect.
	So today I got up at 5, even though it was East Coast time, because we had a goodbye brunch from 10 to noon.
	So I did three hours of prep, then we got over there, came back, did all my clips.
	But I'm just thinking...
	Wow, I mean, everyone seems fine.
	Darren did four hours of rock and roll pre-show.
	We should just do this every show.
	This is such a nice time.
	I could sleep a couple hours longer.
	What was that?
	I heard a sound.
	Oh, I heard a sound.
	What?
	It was Darren blowing his brains out.
	I don't know.
	It's just that...
	Was there a reason that we started this time?
	I can't recall.
	I'll tell you what.
	Let's see how we feel at the end of it.
	Okay.
	And then we see what the audience thinks because maybe they'd like to...
	You know, because this brings in different parts of the audience and gets rid of some others.
	I remember why we started at this time.
	I remember why this was.
	When we started the show, I was in the UK. And we wanted to have it so we both had kind of daylight.
	With a time difference.
	That's right.
	That's exactly right.
	That's why the show started at 9.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't think anyone else...
	Would anyone else mind?
	I don't mind.
	I think it would be...
	Because if the show started at 11 in the UK, it'd be after midnight almost.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Interesting point.
	Okay, well, we'll find out.
	We'll figure it out.
	We can try it.
	Yeah.
	I do want to ask the troll room to be on alert since this is the 24th.
	If you have any information while we're doing the show about the French elections, we'd love to know.
	Because that just makes us sound that much smarter when people are listening to this tomorrow on Monday.
	It's supposed to be a very close race between Macron and the far-right candidate, Marine Le Pen.
	Personally, I can't see her winning.
	No, I can't either.
	It would be quite the upset.
	And speaking of upset, travel, once again...
	Oh, yes.
	Okay, I've got to prep the audience.
	We have to start this show because when somebody travels, we have horror stories to tell.
	And I know for a fact that you already have one part of it's a horror story because I've been on delayed flights, but 12 hours is too much.
	Yeah.
	So it's only three hours from Austin to New York and we decided to fly from Austin.
	Could have walked.
	Well, I'll tell you, by the time we were done, and you know my mission is to get back into aviation, I could have flown us to literally Westchester Airport 15 minutes away and back in the amount of time it took for us to get from Fredericksburg here.
	It was an hour and a half to drive to Austin, which is okay.
	That's very normal for us now if we go to Austin.
	An hour and a half, no one cares.
	And we got there two hours ahead of time anticipating crazy lines.
	And, of course, there were no crazy lines.
	It was completely quiet.
	This I did not understand.
	And we are walking into the terminal and, oh yes, your flight has been delayed.
	Instead of 12.30, it will be departing at 3.
	Later that turned into quarter to 4.
	And for us to...
	What are you going to do?
	You're not going to go back into town or back home.
	You're not going to go into town.
	So we decided...
	We just wait at the airport.
	Now, this would have made me much, much madder had the keeper not had the foresight when we gave up all of our, you know, our chase stuff and we turned in all the cards.
	She said, let's get the Amex for points for traveling, which is also how we kind of saved, you know, getting our money back from the failed Aruba trip because it's their travel agency.
	And it turns out that you can use a number of lounges.
	And we were just flying economy on Delta.
	And the Delta Lounge at Austin is really, really nice.
	And so there's free food and drink.
	They've got a full bar.
	So I have to say, it wasn't a horrible thing.
	Now, if we didn't have the card, I would be really mad.
	Because they did nothing for us.
	Nothing.
	Just, oh yeah, well, it's too bad.
	And what was the reason?
	Well, we had a mechanical failure problem on the flight inbound.
	Why don't you switch that out?
	We all know the answer.
	It got no one to fly the switch out and no one to sit with the other plane.
	It's broken.
	The system is busted.
	So this was very disappointing.
	The only good thing was no mask in the airport.
	That was wonderful.
	No mask on the plane, although about, let's say, 10% was still masked.
	But no stink eye or anything like that from anybody that I could detect?
	And we landed in New York.
	There the mask percentage is much higher.
	I'd say probably 30%.
	But yeah, everyone seems to be okay.
	And I heard that New York was still kind of dopey about it and people make problems.
	But none of it.
	That was quite okay.
	But yeah, 12 hours.
	12 hours to get from Austin here.
	That was ridiculous.
	I just can't do it anymore.
	I'm going to cancel everything until I can fly myself.
	What did you cancel?
	What do you actually got planned?
	Meetups.
	Well, maybe I shouldn't.
	We won't cancel South Carolina, but come on.
	It's not going to get any better.
	Well, not in the near term, that's for sure.
	No.
	No, not in the medium or long term either.
	We need 60,000 pilots by 2023, end of 2023.
	So, no.
	And what's Pete Buttigieg doing?
	Working on racist roads or something.
	Get some pilots trained, bro!
	He doesn't know anything about transportation.
	No.
	You have to remember when he was assigned that job of Secretary of Transportation that he had no experience whatsoever in that field and claimed that he did like model trains.
	Is he a foamer?
	Is Pete a foamer, do you think?
	I think he is a foamer.
	He looks like one.
	Just imagine him with one of those caps.
	Conductor's hat.
	Put a conductor's hat on him in your mind and you can see him wearing it comfortably.
	And jumping up and down as the train comes by.
	Ooh, ooh, look at that.
	Ooh, ooh.
	Possibly.
	So we're here for two reasons.
	After three years, my sisters could finally come over and we could put my dad to rest in the family cemetery plot.
	Which then turned into a mini Curry reunion.
	With about 50 people who came in from all parts of the country and even some, of course, Tiffany from the Netherlands with her husband and with her son and Willow with her kids and her husband.
	And we decided it would be fun to all stay in one big Airbnb.
	And that would be good if the advertising was right.
	We're 11 people.
	It's like, oh yeah, this place...
	It'll hold 50.
	Easily.
	Oh, there's a sofa for two people.
	Yeah, no, that's really a person and a half.
	Just give us your deposit.
	It'll hold 50.
	Don't worry about it.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	But it was fantastic.
	Dutch, Italian, English.
	My brother-in-law, Alessandro, cooking the Italian.
	It was really, really fun.
	But another reason that it was good to be here is Aunt Meg passed away four weeks ago.
	And so Don is basically here by himself.
	Now he's alone.
	He's 94.
	They'd been married for 63 years.
	So, you know, that's a rough time for him.
	It was good to have everybody hanging around.
	But what was...
	Kind of weird, and I've been to a number of these Curry reunions.
	The first one, I think, was 1977 or 76 that I can recall.
	There's been three or four since then.
	We have people in Kansas and all over the country that come in.
	And now there's a whole new generation.
	You know, Christina's age.
	They're late 20s, they're 30s.
	Man, I have been called Boomer in the past two days at least 15 times.
	Okay, Boomer.
	No, just everything is Boomer this, Boomer that.
	Because you won't get out of the way.
	Exactly.
	The weather was great.
	It's been fantastic to tell all kinds of stories and remember everything.
	But there's one thing I do have to point out.
	Most of my family is all East Coast.
	Many of them have lived extensive time in Washington, D.C., in the area, or at one point lived in D.C., so very East Coast.
	I would say fairly liberal mentality, mainly because they, as good government issues do, they love to listen to NPR and watch PBS. Now, there was very little political talk going on, which I enjoyed, and there was just almost none of it.
	You know, not even about current events.
	It was just all about family.
	But...
	Almost to a T, every single...
	At any event, there's a big but.
	There's a big but.
	And it goes like this.
	How can you stand to live in Texas?
	The second one.
	How can you stand the Texas government?
	And I was blown away by that.
	Have you been to Texas?
	It doesn't surprise me in the least.
	I wouldn't have off the top of my head thought that that would happen, but once you say it, it doesn't surprise me in the least.
	This is like the crazy little commentaries you'd hear on these talk shows where these people would get together when it was just not only Trump, but when Nixon won or when any of these Republicans won.
	New Yorkers were sitting around going, I don't understand how this guy possibly could win.
	I don't know anyone who's voted for him.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, you're right.
	I shouldn't be surprised because there was no political talk at all.
	But they questioned my place.
	Sanity.
	Sanity.
	Yeah, perhaps sanity.
	And I don't want to come across as a big defender of Texas, but I said...
	You know, you'd be surprised kind of how...
	You should have done it in a drawl.
	Hi, let me tell you.
	You'd be surprised how moderate kind of Texans are and don't really care and we just kind of do our thing.
	Yeah, do we have crazy, radical coverage and are the politicians out of control?
	Sure, there's all kinds of crazy crap.
	But to single it out that way, it's like, come on.
	And many of them have served in Fort Hood.
	Yeah, I was like, okay.
	It was very notable.
	And my go-to was always, well, I don't know.
	We bought our house from a gay couple, and everyone in the neighborhood seemed okay with that.
	I don't know.
	There's always this eyebrow raise.
	Oh, really?
	And are they still alive?
	Did they kill them?
	You strung them up, man.
	But here's the funny part about it.
	So they're talking about, you know, literally about Texas.
	How can you stand to live there?
	How can you stand the Texas government?
	Meanwhile, in Washington, D.C., where many had driven up from...
	Good evening, and thank you for joining us on this Friday night.
	We want to begin with some breaking news as we come on the air.
	A scary scene here in the nation's capital as the search is on for a suspect accused of shooting multiple people.
	Yeah, so they were on the phone with some other acquaintances and friends, and some of them were locked in who live in that area.
	And I'm like, okay, yeah, Texas, pretty bad, you know.
	Have you followed this thing in D.C.? No, no.
	So they got a number of cool elements.
	They got, of course, shooting, guns, and there's a war on guns for obvious reasons.
	Is there a middle name involved?
	Ooh, um, I'm not sure.
	I don't think there's a name in my report.
	Let's see what I have here.
	Federal and local law enforcement surged into northwest Washington, about four miles north of the White House, after gunshots erupted on a major thoroughfare in the nation's capital.
	We advise them on the scene of an active shooter.
	Person shot in the alleyway.
	Witnesses described hearing dozens of shots pulsing through the neighborhood, which houses multiple schools, a college campus, and embassies.
	We do not have a motive at this time.
	We do not know the full details of what took place.
	In an unverified video that the police have yet to identify, the shooter may have live-streamed the attack.
	Yeah.
	As the injured were rushed from the scene, residents were told to shelter in place as police cordoned off the area.
	And we're continuing to do a very thorough search.
	As you know, some of these buildings are very large.
	They've taken some time for us to go through.
	Ellen Krug was blocks away waiting for news from her daughter.
	She was going to pick up her eighth grader and heard all this shooting.
	She thought it was a jackhammer, but it stopped and then it started again.
	And when she called out, she was so hysterical, I couldn't understand what she said.
	So that's Autosear, I think.
	When she's talking about the jackhammer, so I think we got another one of those on our hands.
	Yeah, good catch.
	What is the switch?
	The Glock switch?
	Yeah.
	Maybe there's a name here.
	In Washington, D.C. The media has done a good job, by the way, the media has done a great job of popularizing, even to the two of us, the switch.
	So now everybody knows about it.
	We can all get one.
	Good work, media, because there's a good way to get this gun control.
	Well, even better than that, you can 3D print one.
	The plans are being distributed everywhere.
	It's just a little thing.
	It's a very small, small thing.
	Here's the last report.
	In Washington, D.C., police today said the gunman who wounded four people Friday, including a child, fired more than 100 rounds from a rifle.
	The suspect appeared to fire randomly from an apartment with a sniper-like setup.
	He was later found dead there.
	Okay, so now I'm confused.
	Did they just change that to a different weapon?
	Did this guy have a seer on his AR? Well, if I think during the series report that I saw, they do make them for the AR. Oh, yeah.
	I mean, again, you can do it with a coat hanger.
	It's not that hard to fashion these things.
	Who knows?
	Yeah, but there you go.
	Washington, D.C., you know, very strict gun laws.
	But no, Texas, can't stand them.
	Yeah.
	I hope you made these arguments.
	Are you insane?
	No way.
	No way.
	No, it was really nice.
	Especially hanging out with Don.
	Don is 94 and the guy is sharp.
	But then sometimes for a second it'll flip off and you can see it and it flips right back.
	And he knows it too.
	Your zone's out.
	Everybody does.
	Yeah.
	But he looks good.
	I'll get some pictures.
	He looks good for 94.
	With his hair too.
	All his hair.
	My family's so cool.
	We get to keep our hair.
	So, let's see.
	We've got a lot going on.
	Well, let's start with the...
	I checked out the morning shows, because I could.
	And I don't have any clips from them.
	I'm not going to do that.
	But the big news, I do have, luckily, the clip of it, which is the big deal, is the Kevin McCarthy tape.
	Yeah, this is interesting.
	I've caught a little bit of this.
	And that's all they're talking about.
	And by the way, when I listened to some of this stuff this morning, I finally realized what's going on.
	And it kind of explains this tape.
	It explains what...
	I mean, they're going to make a big fuss about this.
	Can I give you my impression, just from only having, not really followed, but just cursory news, what my impression was?
	That Kevin McCarthy is worried about, you know, January 6th committee, whatever.
	He laid down some, you know, some plausible deniability for himself.
	And I question the recording date of some of these phone calls.
	Well, the plausible deniability is not necessary.
	He's already, they still want to drag him in, but he has to, for some reason, where his position allows him to just say, fuck you, I'm not going.
	And so there's nothing to worry about.
	What's his position that he can do that?
	Isn't he just a...
	He's a Senate minority, sorry, House minority leader.
	Yeah.
	You can't start dragging in your competition and grilling him for no good reason.
	That can't be done.
	Oh, okay.
	Never stopped him before.
	Who have they dragged in at that level?
	Well, they impeached Trump twice.
	No, impeaching him is not the same as dragging him before a hearing.
	Okay.
	Trump never came in.
	No, true.
	Kevin McCarthy fiasco one.
	This will be a good background.
	It is all from NPR. Recordings of House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy show him saying that he wanted President Trump to resign after the January 6th attack on the Capitol back in 2021.
	Two New York Times reporters shared the audio last night on MSNBC. It's a little bit hard to hear, but this is McCarthy's voice.
	The only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass.
	And it would be my recommendation.
	It would be my recommendation he should resign.
	That's the quote.
	Joining us to discuss this is NPR congressional reporter Claudia Grisales.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Steve.
	I guess we should give the background here.
	Alex Burns and Jonathan Martin of the New York Times have a new book.
	They report that McCarthy wanted Trump to resign.
	McCarthy denied it, and now they've brought receipts.
	Exactly.
	McCarthy had issued a lengthy statement yesterday calling the Times reporting, quote, totally false and wrong.
	But this audio tape appears to upend that claim.
	It was part of a House Republican leadership call made soon after the attack.
	But we should note that NPR has not independently verified the tape, which was released last night, as part of a book tour for Burns and Martin.
	The then No.
	3 House Republican Liz Cheney can be heard in this tape asking McCarthy about About whether a 25th Amendment succession plan could be triggered, and about Trump's possible resignation.
	Is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign?
	Is there any reason to think that might happen?
	I've had a few discussions.
	My gut tells me no.
	I'm seriously thinking of having that conversation with him tonight.
	I had to talk to him in conversation.
	Now, of course, we know that Cheney was later kicked out of her leadership role for sticking with these concerns about Trump, and subsequently she became the ranking Republican on the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capitol.
	So, book tour.
	How about that?
	Yeah, I think that's a distraction, what's going on here.
	And I'll tell you what I think is happening.
	And I only got triggered to these thoughts listening to Karl Rove this morning.
	As you do.
	As one does on a nice Sunday.
	On a morning, you know, when you're watching these TV shows.
	So, first of all, I think Cheney leaked the tape.
	Yeah, and she denies it.
	This information was in the book.
	It was challenged because the New York Times wrote about the book.
	It was challenged, and then somebody leaked the tape.
	Who else would leak the tape?
	What kind of a douchebag would leak this sort of tape to embarrass everybody?
	Well, there's about 200 in Congress who would do that, maybe more.
	But yeah, that would be Cheney.
	Sure, I believe that.
	She denies it, correct?
	I think this wasn't a meeting with everyone in Congress.
	This was a closed meeting of the leadership.
	And Cheney was one of the leadership members at the time, if you recall.
	That's why she was kicked out of leadership position.
	Got it.
	I think that what was going on, and this harkens back to my thesis about how important it is.
	I've tried to teach the kids how important it is to write a cover-your-ass memo all the time.
	Ah, yes.
	I think that Trump actually expected something bad to happen.
	That's when he wrote the cover-your-ass memo to Pelosi.
	There's no doubt about it.
	There's no reason for this at all, except as a cover-your-ass moment to cover his ass and do it well.
	He wrote a memo to Pelosi suggesting that they bring out 20, not only that, you exaggerate, and a good cover-your-ass memo, you push it to the point where they ignore it.
	He said we should bring out 25,000 troops, troops, military.
	Oh, right.
	To protect the capital because, oh, no, no, no.
	Why take a chance?
	She ignored the memo if she even saw it.
	And the people above and below her all ignored this memo.
	This memo is his get-out-of-jail-free card.
	They're doing the hearings, ignoring the memo.
	They refuse to discuss the memo.
	They refuse to bring Pelosi to the fore.
	They refuse all this stuff.
	As soon as the house flips, which it will do in November...
	The memo will resurface.
	That'll all come right to the fore and that committee will be shut down overnight.
	But that was a cover your ass moment.
	And it was one of the best examples of it I've ever seen looking back on it.
	Now, McCarthy didn't know about this memo.
	And it was at the moment, it was at the time of this riot, as they like to keep calling it, insurrection.
	I've got a couple of clips where they...
	Especially NPR, they keep calling it that, which is, I think, unconscionable that they do this because it's propaganda.
	McCarthy didn't know any better, and he saw this as a Nixon moment.
	Where they're going to impeach Trump and pull it off.
	Nixon was told by the establishment of the Republican Party, the McCarthy's of his era, he has to resign, and that's when he resigned.
	And he was in that mode of thinking, not understanding that Trump, who we have to reassess Trump on and off again, It's not a dumb shit.
	And this cover your ass memo that he wrote, which really was a beauty, that's why Trump, I guess he heard from McCarthy and he said, I'm not going to, and there's some other tape, I'm not going to resign, there's no reason for it.
	And he was right.
	But they went ahead anyway trying to impeach him, even though it was like futile.
	Yeah.
	I just got more respect for Trump now thinking about this moment as a cover your ass moment and the importance of it for you kids out there.
	What's interesting since you bring up Watergate, this week is the 50th anniversary of Watergate.
	How about that for another 70s throwback, huh?
	I know you hate it when I do that.
	By the way, it's a segment now.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's a segment.
	Somebody's got to come over to the jingle.
	We need a jingle.
	That's right.
	So let's go to part two of this clip.
	A Cheney spokesman said this morning that the select committee has asked Kevin McCarthy to speak with us about these events, but he has so far declined.
	Representative Cheney did not record or leak the tape and does not know how the reporters got it.
	Her office is referencing a January request there that the committee made to McCarthy where they raised the potential that he had previously discussed Trump's resignation and wanted him to talk about it to the panel.
	McCarthy, however, swiftly rejected the idea to testify.
	Now, what does this mean for the relationship between Kevin McCarthy and Donald Trump?
	And I guess we should remind people McCarthy would very much like to be Speaker of the House.
	Trump has been very critical of McCarthy, even though McCarthy has on some occasions changed his views or muted his views about January 6th to be supportive of Trump.
	Right, exactly.
	There was a shouting match between McCarthy and Trump during a phone call on the day of the attack where McCarthy pleaded with Trump to take notice that the rioters were actually Trump supporters, to which Trump responded, Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.
	Then McCarthy took to the floor later to point the finger at Trump's role in the attack.
	And this riff looked like it was going to stay, that is, until McCarthy flew to Mar-a-Lago within weeks of the attack and appeared in a photo with Trump.
	Seemingly mending this feud between them.
	Back then, anyway.
	What about now?
	Now, this obviously puts McCarthy in a tough position with his party, and he's getting mixed reviews this morning from his rank and file, but the ultimate judge here is likely Trump himself.
	And as we know, these two have mended their tensions in the past, so it's very possible he can survive this latest controversy, too.
	I am so happy you got this, John, and your deconstruction.
	Because my family will be listening, of course.
	And I'm happy because they'll love this.
	They'll love the fact, oh my god, that's a great political play.
	A lot of them understand this stuff.
	And that CYA memo, man, you nailed it with that.
	That's a smart move.
	And I think that, you know, they leave all this stuff out of this report, but I think when McCarthy flew to Mar-a-Lago, I think he was introduced to the memo.
	And then he went to Mar-a-Lago and he got to read it.
	Oh, man.
	He said, okay.
	It's a trap.
	They took the picture again.
	They were fine.
	And if you listen to today's morning, guys, they all say, yeah, they seem to be okay with each other now.
	Well, why is that?
	So it's a trap.
	It's a January 6th committee trap.
	Yeah.
	Excellent.
	And once, in fact, it's a good trap, too, because once, it's not a trap unless the Republicans get the House, but they will.
	So when they get the House and then they pull this up, they'll bring Pelosi to the thing.
	She's going to have to testify why she didn't take action on the memo.
	And then they're going to bring up Schiff and make him talk about why you didn't introduce the memo.
	You knew the memo was there.
	All the right-wing talk show people have been talking about the memo, but you guys refuse to even discuss it.
	And it's going to make the Democrats look even worse than they look now.
	I think I have...
	It's going to be a butt slam.
	I think I have...
	Butt slam!
	I think I have Schiff in one of my clips about this, let me see.
	The New York Times just released a recording after House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy denied telling top Republicans that he would urge President Trump to step down after the January 6th attack.
	According to the Times, the audio reveals McCarthy discussing plans to call the president directly and suggest he resign.
	ABC News White House correspondent Mary Alice Parks joins me now with more on this.
	Mary Alice, what's the reaction in Washington to this recording coming out?
	Yeah, Diane, pretty quiet so far for members of Congress.
	We're obviously looking for any additional statement from McCarthy, from Leader McConnell.
	We're going to continue to be pressing Republicans for their answers on this.
	There's, as you said, a serious credibility question here.
	It seems that Kevin McCarthy and his staff was just completely dishonest with reporters about this, really caught in this trap, where it now seems that someone had audio of that phone call.
	And, you know, listening to it, there's a lot more...
	That's interesting she says that, caught in this trap.
	What is she...
	Her trap...
	Their trap is that, hey, did you ask the president?
	Oh, I understand.
	No, I didn't.
	No, I understand.
	Well, here's the tape.
	No, I understand.
	That's like a mediocre trap.
	I was going to say.
	What?
	Okay.
	His staff was just completely dishonest.
	Strap.
	With reporters about this really caught in this trap where it now seems that someone has...
	Go figure.
	A politician is dishonest with the press.
	I know.
	I've never heard of such...
	By the way, I've never heard of such a thing.
	No, it doesn't happen.
	Out this really caught in this trap where it now seems that someone had audio of that phone call.
	And, you know, listening to it, there's a lot more questions that need answers.
	Questions about who exactly was considering a 25th Amendment move.
	You hear in the audio, Representative Liz Cheney seemed to refer to prior discussions about Whether there's a move to invoke the 25th Amendment, that's obviously when the president or members of cabinet can be removed from office.
	There's a serious question about whether McCarthy did at some point tell Trump he thought he should resign.
	You hear in the audio recording, he says that that's what he thinks he should do, what he plans to do, what he thinks is the best course of action is if he advises the president to resign, but it's unclear whether he ever actually had that phone call.
	And then, of course, we're going to have to continue to We've got to press the Republicans.
	We have things we can say we won't say.
	Whether he ever actually had that phone call.
	And then, of course, we're gonna have to continue to press Republicans about what happened, how they could be talking like this in the days immediately after January 6th, and then within a few days after that, swing so far in the other direction.
	Well, I have another clip.
	I know I have Schiff here somewhere.
	Newly released phone calls show Kevin McCarthy told fellow House...
	This is CBS....publican shortly after the U.S. Capitol attack, Donald Trump had acknowledged, bearing some blame for it.
	He told me he does have some responsibility for what happened.
	And he needed to acknowledge that.
	Authors of the new book, This Will Not Pass, have released a series of clips of McCarthy's phone calls with fellow Republicans from the days after the insurrection.
	In one call, McCarthy expressed frustration with the former president.
	I've had it with this guy.
	What he did is unacceptable.
	Nobody can defend that and nobody should defend it.
	In another, McCarthy said he was considering asking Trump to resign.
	It would be my recommendation he should resign.
	I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think he would take it.
	McCarthy is now being accused of being deceitful, as he said he didn't remember the earlier phone call.
	Those comments made less than three weeks before he made this pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago.
	Pilgrimage?
	A pilgrimage!
	That's all I'm talking about, so...
	And he had denied ever recommending Trump should resign.
	Several members of the January 6th committee tell CBS News they've long sought an interview with McCarthy and said the audio shows McCarthy could shed light on Trump's mindset.
	Why is that revelation important to your committee?
	I think it is very important that Kim McCarthy has evidence the former president acknowledged bearing some responsibility for that attack on the Capitol.
	This is an admission of guilt by the former president.
	A subpoena to the House Republican leader.
	This, by the way, they're doing this Jedi mind trick.
	There's so much audio, and then by saying something like that, and I would also blame CBS for editing it that way, and then to say, you know, what Schiff just said, is taking your mind into...
	You know, what you're supposed to believe Trump said.
	I think it is very important that Kim McCarthy has evidence the former president acknowledged bearing some responsibility for that attack on the Capitol.
	This is an admission of guilt by the former president.
	A subpoena to the House Republican leader.
	So he...
	There's no audio tape of Trump with any admission of guilt, but because McCarthy says something, that's, you know...
	And by the way, whenever Schiff shows up, usually the operation fails.
	This guy, except for, you know...
	I think he actually delayed the impeachment with his shenanigans, made it worse.
	But whenever this guy shows up, the op doesn't work too well.
	Trigger a legal dispute, and time is running short.
	The committee hopes to have public hearings next month.
	We do feel a sense of urgency.
	Because the hearings will tell a story that will really blow the roof off the house.
	Wow, I hadn't heard that either.
	Did you hear how they edited those two together?
	No, play it again.
	It's two different people.
	It's Schiff and then they cut to, I think.
	A subpoena to the House Republican leader could trigger a legal dispute and time is running short.
	The committee hopes to have public hearings next month.
	We do feel a sense of urgency because the hearings will tell...
	Wow!
	They just cut to a whole different person.
	Is that Schiff as well?
	Well, it sounds like it, but the clip of Schiff is okay, maybe.
	I think you're right.
	The committee hopes to have public hearings next month.
	We do feel a sense of urgency because the hearings will tell a story that will really blow the roof off the house.
	That's not Schiff.
	Yeah, they cut from Schiff to that guy.
	Alright.
	Yeah, they're playing around.
	Macron, 58% ahead of Le Pen, so it looks like he's going to crush her.
	France is a socialist country.
	They're not going to put her in.
	Yeah.
	Good try.
	Was this her fourth time?
	I don't know how many times it is, but it's getting futile.
	They've got to find somebody better than her.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the French will...
	It hasn't gotten so bad that they have to kick their socialist people out.
	They will eventually, but this is not it.
	Okay, so we'll see where this goes.
	Do we have a timeline this January 6th?
	Because everything seems to be kind of ratcheting up and getting ready for...
	In fact, I do have a short last clip, which is probably worth listening to, about the report.
	In the spirit of disclosing private conversations, did you tell House Republicans on a January 11th phone call that President Trump told you he agreed that he bore some responsibility for January 6th, as Chairman Thompson's letter indicates?
	I'm not sure what call you're talking about.
	Really?
	Really?
	I think you probably know where I'm going with this.
	Roll the tape.
	But let me be very clear to all of you.
	No, I don't even know what that is.
	I don't even know what that is.
	No, I don't.
	Um...
	There's a lot of hearsay.
	You know, this is a desperation as far as I can tell by the Democrats because there's nothing that is improving their chances for November.
	No.
	And it's got nothing to do with any of this.
	Nobody cares about January 6th except the talk shows and some NPR outlets and the insurrection haters and all the rest of it.
	Well, there's at least 100 people who care.
	They care about the gas price and the fact that beef prices are through the ceiling.
	And chickens, now there's no good chicken.
	It's going to be expensive.
	$4 a pound for a 55-cent chicken?
	Give me a break.
	Speaking of, someone sent me a cover of Time Magazine, April 9th, 1973.
	Food prices!
	The big beef!
	Don't eat meat!
	What is going on?
	Okay, let's get the 70s stuff.
	I have a 70s repeat.
	Here's my 70s report.
	It's under 70s report, the roller skating going on in New York.
	Ew, hold on a second.
	70s reports, here we go.
	New York's famous skating rink at Rockefeller Center has gone retro.
	Skaters are ditching their blades and putting on wheels.
	Nice.
	I hope they're playing music like that as they do it.
	The last time the Rockefeller Center rink welcomed roller skaters was in the 1940s.
	Now they're back.
	The beauty of roller skating is that the minute you strap on the wheels, everything goes out of the window.
	Liberty Ross came up with the idea to transform the Rockefeller Center rink for roller skating.
	Yeah, baby.
	Although that's 80s, but we'll take it.
	In the late 1970s, her father owned one of the hottest spots in Los Angeles, the famous Flippers Roller Boogie Palace.
	People that went to the original Flippers, they all say like, yeah, you know, I was like holding hands with Cher while I was skating around the fish.
	You know, it was like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jane Fonda, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Herbie Hancock, everybody was there.
	She wanted to recreate that magic of that attraction that closed in 1981.
	And for its debut in New York, the stars came out to roll.
	There's Usher, there's Floyd Mayweather, there's, you know, Meek Mill, there's Mary J. Blige, but they're skating with everyone.
	Ross promotes roller skating as an alternative to getting lost online.
	Less scroll, more roll.
	Put the phones down, you know, and just be in your body, feel the wind in your hair, hear that music, and just let go and enjoy the feeling of freedom.
	Flipper's Roller Boogie Palace at Rockefeller Center is open through October.
	Bell bottoms not required.
	Uh, yeah, bell bottoms are a thing now, whether they're not required.
	Good one.
	Less scroll, more roll.
	You know, the New York Times had a piece.
	Now, that was from flippers in the 70s in Los Angeles.
	She just rebuilt the old 70s operation.
	With all the bull crap that was in that report, like for example, why is roller skates more freeing in that regard than ice skates?
	I have no idea.
	It's bullcrap, that's why.
	Listen, this was this morning in the New York Times.
	It's about the...
	In fact, the title is...
	It's not just high oil prices, it's a full-blown energy crisis.
	And that rhymes.
	Listen to this.
	The parallels with the 1970s are obvious.
	Get ready for them.
	The oil shock in the wake of the Yom Kippur War in October 1973, which involved the world's rising oil producer, Saudi Arabia, was extremely disruptive economically and geopolitically.
	The first shock was followed in 78-79 by the revolution in Iran and Iraq's invasion of Iran, plunging the two oil producers into a long war.
	Then one geopolitical era, with the United States as the world's largest oil producer and Britain, the military guarantor of Western energy interests in the Middle East, unraveled.
	This is interesting.
	Do we have a parallel to this?
	Keep reading as the Arab state seized control of production and prices from the seven big Anglo American companies the sisters that had controlled oil in the Middle East for decades Western economy stagnated under the under the inflationary pressure stagnation inflation stagnation supercharging protests strikes and electoral realignment across across Western democracies in the final paragraph would lies ahead promises to be more disorderly.
	That's right, we're doing the 70s better, people.
	Ultimately transformative than the events of the 1970s.
	This is indeed a bigger disruption.
	During the geopolitical upheaval of the 70s, the physical supply of oil from the world's reserves was never the issue.
	Now, with Asian energy demand vastly higher than it was, it is.
	And demand for gas and coal may well also exceed worldwide output over the next few years.
	We appear to have entered a time when countries will have to compete for the world's remaining accessible fossil fuels and governments openly choose geopolitical alliances to secure them.
	Charging stations.
	Hundreds of them!
	No, oh my goodness.
	You're jumping around on me, but this was our president...
	One of the things I've found out as President of the United States, I get to spend a lot of that money.
	I get to decide where, no, I'm not joking.
	And we're going to completely, by before, I'm going to start the process where every vehicle in the United States military, every vehicle is going to be climate friendly.
	Every vehicle.
	No, I mean it.
	And it's going to matter.
	You know, it matters.
	You know, in my view, this crisis, as I said, is a genuine opportunity.
	An opportunity to do things we wanted to do, and only now it becomes so apparent.
	Drunk or not drunk.
	So, the military is by far the largest greenhouse gas producer with their equipment.
	When he says climate-friendly, what does he mean?
	I don't know, but can I ask you a question first?
	Yeah.
	When he says he's going to make it more green and more climate friendly, he gets a round of applause, and during the applause he says, no, I mean it.
	Yeah, it's not a joke.
	Yeah.
	What does he think the applause means?
	Whenever he gets applause, that's what he says.
	No, it's not a joke.
	It's Tourette's.
	No, it's not a joke.
	I don't know.
	We've gone through this.
	Since you brought Biden in, I can get my Biden clips out of the way.
	Go for it.
	Well, if you want to...
	Okay, first of all, we heard not a joke.
	Not a joke.
	You know I mean it.
	You've heard...
	He's got a couple other things.
	He says, you know the thing.
	You know the thing.
	He says that.
	Can you think of any other little bromides he keeps throwing in?
	Not offhand, but when you mention them, I'll know them.
	Well, I've got one for you right here.
	See if you can pull this one out, because I got a couple of examples in just a series of small clips by him.
	This is the repeating phrase.
	Tell me if you can figure out what it is he keeps saying for some stupid reason.
	Do what the federal government hadn't done.
	Well, guess what?
	We had a long talk.
	Good jobs lost over time.
	Well, guess what?
	It's fine.
	Guess what?
	We're part of the reason for the global warming.
	Well, guess what?
	It all evaporated.
	Well, guess what?
	You know, when we were kids, if someone said that, the standard response would be, what?
	Of course you do.
	This is where I learned.
	I learned by watching you, okay?
	Oh, another 70s throwback right there!
	The marijuana commercial from the 70s.
	See?
	Oh, I wish we were doing the show in the 70s.
	We could just do reruns.
	It'd be perfect.
	Guess what?
	Guess what?
	What?
	Guess what?
	Guess what?
	What kind of a president is it that keeps saying, guess what, like a 12-year-old?
	Well, when it comes to diction and crazy shit, Trump had his moments, too.
	He had a whole bunch of stuff.
	Yeah, but they weren't 12-year-old stuff, necessarily.
	Let's listen to some other stuff.
	Let's hear some breakdowns.
	This is Biden.
	You got the repeating phrase, so we got that figured out.
	This is the one I've been wanting to play, which is where he throws prostitution in out of the blue.
	Imagine had the tobacco industry been immune...
	To being sued.
	What was that, you think?
	That he's immune to prostitution?
	He has prostitution on the mind.
	Some must have talked about something Hunter did.
	No, he must have been thinking of something else.
	Constitution?
	Maybe he was confused.
	Constitution?
	Okay, here's Biden.
	Hold on, let me hear this again.
	Imagine had the tobacco industry been immune to being sued.
	Oh, prosecution.
	He wanted to say prosecution.
	Imagine the tobacco industry being immune to prosecution.
	But it comes out as prostitution.
	Obviously, we know what he's thinking of.
	Imagine had the tobacco industry been immune to being sued.
	I like the way he switches it to being sued.
	It's like Porky Pig we're dealing with here.
	Elder abuse is what we're dealing with here.
	So here's a few of the lies.
	And by the way, the media loves to be all over the place with this, you know, fact check and this and that and the 10,000 lies by Trump.
	But they never say shit.
	Only the right winger say shit about stuff like this.
	Here he is on his full professorship.
	I've been on a lot of university campuses.
	Matter of fact, for four years, I was a full professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
	Fact check, false.
	He's never been a full professor at the university.
	Does he even know what a full professor is?
	Well, that is probably the issue.
	He doesn't know what that is.
	What is a full professor?
	Didn't he have an honorary degree?
	He may have gotten a degree and he may have been a lecturer at some point during a summer course or who knows what.
	But to get to full professor, you have to go through a process.
	I don't know very few that don't have a PhD or some upper, at least a master's.
	You're no slouch to be a full professor.
	You just don't become one out of the blue like that.
	Here's another one.
	Here's Biden.
	Biden makes a big fuss about Trump when he's blaming others.
	Blaming, blaming.
	Here's the Biden blaming clip.
	I grew up in a family where when the price of gasoline went up at the pump, it was a conversation at the kitchen table with my dad.
	Putin's invasion of Ukraine has driven up gas prices and food prices all over the world.
	Boots on the ground from Italy.
	Willow says their electric bill in the past two months has gone up 300% in Italy.
	And now all public buildings and condos will be regulating air temperature.
	So during the summer months, public buildings and condominiums are going to adhere to this, and apartment buildings may not make it colder than 27 degrees centigrade.
	What is that?
	Do we know what that is in Fahrenheit?
	About 67, I think?
	No, I think it's higher than that.
	It's 80 degrees.
	And during the winter...
	No, it's definitely not 80.
	27 degrees centigrade is 80 degrees Fahrenheit.
	Yes.
	So you can't make a building colder than that?
	Nope.
	And during the winter, you can't make it warmer than 19 degrees.
	Oh, so I say during the summer, so it gets sweltering at 80.
	You can't lower it.
	That's funny.
	Yeah, so when it's 80 degrees, you can't lower it, and you can't heat your building over 66 Fahrenheit.
	Yikes, that's cold.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, here's the blame right here.
	This is the Biden on price hikes.
	Here we go.
	Of the increase in inflation was a consequence of Putin's price hike because of the impact on oil prices.
	70%.
	We need to address these high prices and urgently.
	You know, I got this report about this urgent addressing of Putin's price hike, and Bloomberg now reports that we took some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which is a real thing.
	They are actually the salt domes, and I think, is it Louisiana?
	You know, we were asking about that a couple shows back.
	Yeah, we didn't, I mean, you specifically said, where is this?
	Is it real?
	And yeah, it's the salt domes that they pump full.
	So Bloomberg reports, a tanker known as the Advantage Spring loaded low-sulfur crude originally pumped from the Strategic Reserve caverns in southwest Louisiana at a port in Nederland, Texas, earlier this month.
	According to a person familiar with the matter, so take that for what it's worth.
	The ship, charted by an affiliate of French energy giant Total Energies, is bound for the key European port of Rotterdam.
	So we emptied our strategic reserves, and we're shipping it over to Rotterdam?
	I mean, I understand that oil is fungible, as long as you get more supply into the market, but is that just to rip off the Dutch and the French?
	What?
	Yeah.
	So our strategic reserve was sent on a ship to Rotterdam by a French energy company.
	So we released our strategic...
	Let me summarize.
	So we are releasing...
	Summarize according to Bloomberg.
	We're releasing our strategic reserves...
	Because we have high energy prices and we want to get the price of gasoline down.
	And we're releasing our energy reserves and shipping them to Holland?
	Yes, sir.
	I'm not an officer.
	I know, but everyone around me here, the weekend is a sir, believe me.
	There's a lot of yes sir, yes sir!
	Yes sir, yes sir.
	That's funny.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	I mean, again, oil is fungible, so you can make the argument, if questioned, but I don't see anyone questioning this.
	It feels kind of icky.
	That's our stuff.
	Well, I want to see that.
	You've got to send me the link to that thing.
	That is like, what?!
	And I think we filled it up during the pandemic when oil was, you know, zero.
	I remember Trump boasting about that.
	I filled it up to the brim!
	Let's see.
	Well, now we're draining it.
	Let's see.
	Strategic reserves.
	Wow.
	I wonder if we have that clip.
	That is just an offbeat story.
	Well, offbeat, it's kind of infuriating to a degree.
	Yeah.
	Come on.
	Who's the OS? Because the director, their energy secretary, that Granholm woman who drives around a Chevy Bolt, she hates oil.
	Yeah, it's like, we need to fix stuff, but not in my backyard.
	Get that nasty oil out of here.
	Yeah, that's probably something like that.
	It's like, well, you know, we can have climate change from the oil, but let the French and the Dutch do it.
	It's bitter.
	And then this story from the Telegraph, as we kind of move into Ukraine, France and Germany, after 2014, after the Crimea annexation, there was an EU-wide embargo on any arms shipments to Russia.
	Oh, well, you know, France and Germany kind of ignored that and sent 350 million euros worth of weapons to Russia, sold it.
	Against the regulations.
	And so now...
	Arms dealers is arms dealers.
	Yeah, I know.
	But these are the governments who just ignored the sanctions.
	The mob-run governments that are arms dealers.
	Yeah, speaking of Biden.
	To modernize Teddy Roosevelt's famous advice, sometimes we will speak softly and carry a large javelin because we're sending a lot of those in as well.
	But we're not sitting on the funding that Congress has provided for Ukraine.
	We're sending it directly to the front lines of freedom.
	Lie.
	And the lie is we're not sending the $800 million.
	We're sending the old stuff and we're buying new stuff with $800 million.
	So I got some pushback from one of the people on the No Agenda Social with one of my comments I just made.
	I said, oh, you know, we're just being suckered by the Ukrainians.
	And we're just giving them all this stuff that even though it's old and useless, but still.
	And the guy says, you're completely missing the boat here, Dvorak.
	He says, this is a lend-lease deal.
	We're not giving them anything.
	We're charging them for this stuff on a loan basis, and we're going to put them in such debt that they're going to be forever indebted.
	And this is just a modern version of the economic hitman right in front of us, right before your very eyes, dummy.
	Well, that's interesting.
	Huh.
	Lawrence Wilkerson was a colonel in the army.
	He was chief of staff to Colin Powell.
	He ran stuff during the Bush-Cheney White House, I think.
	Yeah, Bush-Cheney White House.
	And he was interviewed, and he just kind of laid it out, what's going on here.
	There is a sneaking suspicion in the back of my mind that, because I've been there, I've seen this happen.
	Not to this extent, but I've seen things like it happen.
	That there are some oligarchical elements to this in Europe and the United States and perhaps even in Russia that would like to see a real mess.
	Because it's very profitable for them.
	It sells arms, it sells things associated with arms, it gets everybody up as far as shareholders of people like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon Grumman, and their equivalents in Ukraine and Russia and elsewhere.
	It gets them very excited because it looks like there will be war and rumors of war for a long time, which is of course what gives them their profit margins.
	That there would be some kind of insidious design to enhance, deepen this crisis would not surprise me at all.
	Why would he say that?
	I don't know.
	He's just trying to show off maybe that he knows something.
	I would say that another thing to look at in this regard is that the Russians, I mean, he even kind of implies the Russians are involved in this scheme.
	The Russians have done very little to flatten, rebelize the traditionally important places.
	Like, Kiev has not been flattened.
	He has, they've sent no missiles into L'Viv, which is the, you know, like a World Heritage site.
	Nobody wants to touch that.
	And it's almost like, it's like kid gloves, you know, in certain areas, the other part, hell with it, it would just blow it up.
	I find that peculiar.
	You know, it's not, it's not the swath of rebelization, it's just selective rebelization.
	My whole family, they've been around since the Cuban Missile Crisis, or many of them around since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	And again, none of this came up, but you'd expect, if you were talking about Putin, you'd probably get the, you know, he wants to restore the USSR. That would probably be what I'd hear.
	But, you know, as I kind of winding down this property here, one of my cousins, she gathered up some stuff that her mom had saved throughout the years, like an email from my mom to her January 11th, you know, when she was in Holland and was worried about family who were in New York or, of course, who knew what was going on in D.C. But there's also a note from my dad When I think we're in the Netherlands, and he's emailing someone in the family.
	Of course, back in the day, if you wanted to make a call long distance from the Netherlands in the 70s to the U.S., it was like $5 a minute, and there was this echo on the line, and you could hear all this hiss.
	So people wrote letters, typed letters, and there was a typed letter in there.
	And at the end, my dad says something, I should have in front of me, says something to the effect of, well, I hope everything's going well in the U.S. and we can hold back those perverted pinko commies.
	I'm like, wow, people really talk that way about the Russians in the 70s.
	And that was just normal parlance.
	Yeah, there's a lot of normal parlance you can find in some old movies.
	Unfortunately, they keep trying to keep the kids from hearing it, which is kind of a shame.
	I'm sorry, what do you mean?
	Well, like the movies about Japan with Japs was just the normal parlance for referring to Japanese people.
	Are you asking for this to come back?
	No, but I think it's...
	Bring back Japs, dammit!
	If you let me finish, I'm just saying these are historical documents, these movies, and to prevent people from having to get to hear this stuff, they won't realize how much change.
	You don't get any perspective.
	There's no perspective.
	And you need to hear about pinko commies.
	Yeah.
	Which is true.
	They call them pinko commies.
	Reds.
	Reds, yep.
	For perspective.
	And perspective is being lost.
	And I think when perspective is lost, you lose a lot more than just historical information.
	I think you lose a grip on reality.
	The pinko.
	Yeah, that's true.
	There was something I wanted to...
	Oh, yes.
	There was a promo.
	I think this is the History Channel because you mentioned the Reds.
	Listen to this.
	The book of Revelation foretells four horsemen who will bring God's final judgment upon our world.
	The white horse of the Antichrist, the pale horse of pestilence, the black horse of famine, and the red horse of war.
	The appearance of the rider on the red horse promises to piss mankind in a crossfire between the forces of good and evil.
	in the Battle of Armageddon.
	Yeah, so wait a minute.
	So we've got the Reds.
	We got that.
	We got the Red Horseman.
	We got the Black Horseman of Pestilence.
	What am I missing?
	That'd be Bill Gates.
	Well, it's COVID. We have the Horseman of Food Famine, which is on its way.
	But we haven't identified the Antichrist yet.
	Oh, that's Putin.
	Now, you know how many people say that many Christians, you know who they think it's going to be?
	Who it's going to turn out to be?
	Trump.
	Jared Kushner.
	Oh yes, I've heard this a million times.
	I've heard this too.
	I'm clued into this Jared Kushner nonsense.
	I love this.
	I love this.
	Bull crap.
	Jared Kushner.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I want to just say something you should note.
	That came from the History Channel.
	What happened to these people?
	How did the History Channel become the Hitler Space Alien Channel?
	They had lack of ratings and they saw what worked.
	By the way, I'd like to say something about CNN Plus because it's not entirely fair what's going on here.
	So everyone's all jacked up.
	I think it's more than fair.
	Oops.
	You thought it was...
	You can't think it's fair because you just got killed.
	Oh, you're back?
	Okay.
	I'm back.
	I think it's more than fair, but I appreciate your comments.
	The reason I... So, you know, the story is CNN Plus.
	They went streaming.
	There was a lot of big-name talent.
	Was it Chris Wallace from Fox went over?
	And a lot of people were all jacked about it.
	Who else?
	Oh, Scott Galloway.
	Never heard of him.
	Yeah, you do.
	That's from The Professor and Cara Ann.
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah, these kinds.
	But anyway, Brian Stelter.
	And so after a month, they had 10,000 subscribers.
	That's the word on the street.
	And so it got shut down.
	I have a correction.
	I believe, I could be wrong, but I believe it was 100,000 subscribers, but only 10,000 viewers.
	Possible.
	And then, so after a month, it gets shut down.
	And it's heralded immediately as a win over the woke.
	And I'll tell you what went down here.
	This was planned before the takeover, before Discovery, or AT&T really, is about to buy CNN. And so the new management came in, and they saw this thing, and they went, okay, that's great, we're shutting that shit down.
	Because they have a whole different streaming strategy.
	I guess they want to do a big Discovery app, or I'm not sure what they are.
	Discovery Plus.
	But, yeah.
	But what they don't want is to break it up into all these little pieces.
	And, in fact, they say that some of the programming they were doing, I can't imagine what, we'll move over to CNN. I got a piece of that.
	I got a piece of the...
	My goodness, where's Stelter?
	Stelter had a huge show.
	That was the woke show.
	Listen to this.
	I'm sad, and I hope that Brian Stelter does get to continue to do his streaming productions because it's glorious to listen to.
	We're going to have the latest on Elon Musk shortly, but we're leading today's show with the rarely seen human toll of America's latest fight over LGBTQ rights.
	Let's just be honest.
	Hold on a second.
	America's latest fight?
	No, it's not America's latest fight.
	How is it latest?
	What, it just started last week?
	What is he talking about?
	Because it's non-stop.
	We're just a bunch of a-holes.
	...fight over LGBTQ rights.
	Let's just be honest.
	Hate and homophobia is lurking right beneath the surface in American politics right now.
	Years of increasing acceptance of gays and transgenders is provoking a backlash on right wing talk shows and in state houses.
	That's the backdrop for this Washington Post piece about Libs of TikTok, a Twitter account that shares and sometimes ridicules public posts from progressive educators and others deemed Libs.
	Kelly Lorenz's story revealed the identity of the conservative woman running Libs of TikTok, and now there's a roiling debate about her story and the ethics of it, but there's no debating the influence of the Libs of TikTok account.
	It's even helped inform Florida's recent parental rights law deemed the don't say gay bill by opponents.
	So here's what I want to know.
	What's it like to be caught in the middle of all this?
	What's it like for an educator who says the don't say gay law is a life or death issue for young trans people?
	So it's the last sentence.
	What's it like for a life or death issue for young trans people?
	Well, what does he consider young?
	Because this will affect seven-year-olds and younger.
	But the way he says it kind of comes across as young, like teenagers.
	Third graders.
	Third graders, exactly.
	Yeah, what third grader?
	Second grader, for that matter.
	First grader.
	I was a former first grader, and I was in the second and third grade.
	And I remember very clearly what was going on then.
	I had a crush on my teacher.
	I think it was Miss Rose.
	And, you know, just a dumb, you know, she's a pretty...
	And I didn't, you know, girls were, you know, they were there.
	If you had a chance, you'd pull on their hair or something.
	This is kind of dumb crap.
	You know, you might kind of be attracted to women.
	You weren't thinking about sex, that's for sure.
	I think that began with your, when you're a boy, it takes longer.
	Girls, I guess, get a clue earlier, but...
	Around 12?
	Who's thinking of turning into a, want to change their gender when they're 7?
	Well, that depends.
	If your parents have been indoctrinated and are taught to be on alert for signs, and there's a path, and there's an entire infrastructure, an entire infrastructure.
	I'm lucky to be alive.
	I was always told this, and I vaguely remember when I was a little kid, I liked dolls.
	I just like dolls.
	I think they were fun.
	They were like toy soldiers.
	They're the same thing to me.
	You'd stand them up and you'd have them fight.
	I always had the green army men shoot my sister's dolls.
	That was pretty cool.
	That was good.
	I like that.
	That's cool.
	We used to have cap guns in the day.
	Cap guns!
	Yes!
	Cap guns!
	Oh, beautiful.
	We can't even do that anymore.
	We can't do anything.
	My teacher's name was Miss Casper.
	I did also have a crush on Miss Casper, but it was Bernie...
	What was her last name?
	At her birthday party, I can't remember what her last name was, I gave her a gift, and I remember my mom was there and a whole bunch of kids, you know, and people giving gifts, and then she just lunged forward and kissed me for it.
	And I remember like, holy crap, what just happened?
	What grade was this?
	First grade.
	Wow!
	And she was cute.
	At least what I remember.
	I wish I remembered her last name.
	You must have been a cute little kid.
	You have pictures of you in the first grade?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because cute little kids, cute little boys, I think you'd get kissed a lot.
	Well, after that, I got bullied a lot.
	Well, that's probably for the same reason.
	Hey, pretty boy, come over here.
	So, speaking of the latest, what did Seltzerwater say there?
	The latest LGBTQ fight?
	I miss what you said.
	Newsweek has an article, The New Homophobia.
	Now, listen to this.
	This is Newsweek.
	There's a frightening new version of homophobia pervading the U.S., disguised as, of all things, LGBTQ activism.
	For adult gay people like me, it's clear that the activism does not advance our equality, but in fact compromises our ability to live peacefully in society.
	In fact, it's threatening our very existence.
	So then it's an opinion piece.
	The writer goes on to talk about who he enrolled in Columbia to complete his undergraduate, and he volunteered at Maryland's marriage equality campaign and the subsequent transgender rights legislation.
	He's a gay man.
	This is part of the...
	By the way, we should mention that it's been years that you, I think, initially spotted, and I followed up.
	The anti-gay male movement, which is part of LGBTQIA+. LGBTQIA+. My excitement about the internship quickly gave way to a nauseating mixture of fear and shame.
	I was, I quickly learned, not the right kind of queer.
	I was just another cis gay male.
	In other words, a privileged and unevolved relic of the past.
	After all, I had my rights, the right to marry, the right to serve openly in the military, the right to assimilate into this oppressive, cis-heteronormative, patriarchal society.
	It was time to wait for a new generation of queer, one that had very little to do with sex-based rights and more to do with abolishing the concepts of sex and sexuality together.
	It's worth a read, but as we've talked about many times, to say LGBTQ community is just a bunch of bullcrap.
	The L's actually moved the L in front of the G. Yes, we pointed that out years ago.
	Yeah.
	In fact, I think at some point it was GBL. It was.
	Gay, bisexual, lesbian.
	I brought this up when I was at...
	Yep, no talking about that.
	That was great.
	Hold on, you brought this up what?
	I brought this up when I was at the Cranky Geek show.
	We had one of the producers who was real gay.
	I mean, I know that doesn't sound right.
	Was that Sebastian?
	No.
	Sorry, I couldn't resist.
	I hope he's listening.
	Yeah, he's not listening.
	He doesn't care.
	But this was one of the, he was a very aggressive gay, so he would go on these cruises to, he would talk about, and he'd tell us everything.
	He'd go on these gay cruises that took place, and he said the main place he would always go was Haiti.
	The backside of Haiti was a place where all these gay cruises would go, and it was pretty raucous.
	But he, I brought this up to him, and he says, a lot of gay men Or still irked about the switcheroo or somehow the L got to the front of that little moniker.
	Sure, absolutely.
	It was gay, lesbian, gay, GLBT. It was GLBT. Yes, GLBT. You're right.
	Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender.
	That's right.
	Well, but first I think it was GBL or GLB. I can't remember exactly.
	I don't remember.
	I remember when it was GLBT. I remember it.
	And I brought it up to him and he was still...
	He says a lot of people are irked about this.
	It's really stupid because they are in fact being exclusive.
	He's a cis gay male.
	I thought cis could only work for us.
	Oh yeah, we're just the cis guys.
	Well, it's unbelievable.
	Well, let them fight amongst themselves is the way I see it.
	So what does this mean in the troll room?
	Imagine being proud of knowing all of the queer groups.
	W-T-E-F, Adam.
	Yeah, I care about Americans.
	I don't care what they are.
	We are news analysts and we have to know all this stuff.
	Did the guy in the troll room think we should be idiots about this and not know?
	What does that mean?
	What is the cue in that debt bonnaker?
	I don't know.
	No, we have to know this stuff whether you like it or not.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But there's a real revolt taking place.
	And I'm in California.
	Hello.
	There's a revolt in Fredericksburg.
	You know, we've got a gay couple who've been running a very famous restaurant there for 12, 15 years.
	And they're like, what is this BS? What's going on?
	They're getting mad now.
	So it's dumb.
	It's dumb.
	There will be a revolt.
	Can we switch topics so I can get these clips that are kind of funny?
	This is about totalitarianism.
	It's becoming a topic now on NPR. And this involves an Ask Adam.
	It's a four-parter.
	Five-parter, actually.
	They brought this woman on to discuss either a forward or a re-release of a Hannah Arendt book.
	And I thought this was pretty funny.
	This is Annie Applebaum.
	She's on NPR talking.
	And who is she?
	The title of the first clip is Annie Applebaum NPR Propaganda.
	And this will give us our lead-in.
	We turn now to Anne Applebaum.
	The Pulitzer Prize winning historian has written about the current rise of populist authoritarian regimes around the world.
	She's authored the introduction to the new Folio Society edition of Hannah Arendt's post-World War II classic, The Origins of Totalitarianism.
	That may seem especially resonant during these times of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Chinese mass detention centers, and the insurrection of January 6th, 2021.
	Okay.
	Roger that.
	Ann Applebaum, she works for the Atlantic, I think?
	She writes for the Atlantic?
	I think she, yeah, she might.
	But this idea that you've got Putin, you've got China, you've got January 6th, I mean...
	You got Hitler, you got Stalin, you got January 6th.
	It's unbelievable, these people.
	It's totally unbelievable.
	No, it's propaganda.
	It's what it is.
	It's propaganda.
	It's groovy.
	That's why this is called propaganda.
	Okay, here we go, part two.
	You begin by writing, to quote you, so many of the seemingly novel illnesses that afflict modern society are really just resurgent cancers.
	So what do you see as you look around the world today, including the United States?
	Starting with Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the use of mass violence, the use of torture and concentration camps, filtration camps to deport people.
	Wait, stop.
	Stop the clip.
	Didn't he say when you look around the United States in his question?
	Yeah, hold on.
	...in society are really just resurgent cancers.
	So what do you see as you look around the world today, including the United States?
	Including the United States.
	Okay, he did say world.
	Okay, I made a mistake there.
	But she starts with Russia.
	Go on.
	Starting with Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the use of mass violence, the use of torture and concentration camps, filtration camps to deport people en masse, the use of genocidal language in that conflict, Putin's language about his discussion of eradicating Ukraine from the map, the use of falsehoods and propaganda on a mass scale.
	And that's something we see not only in Russia, we see it in other countries.
	And of course, we see it in the United States, the attempt to create alternate realities.
	Hannah Arendt wrote extensively about the way in which propaganda creates a different reality for people to live in or can do.
	And this, of course, was in a time before social media and modern technology made that even easier than it was in her era.
	Yeah, that's why we had to get rid of the Smith-Mundt Act because it was so easy.
	Thank you.
	So a couple of things there in that little clip.
	They always bring this sort of thing up because they're trying to, you know, pin everything on Putin.
	But when they mentioned that, and I don't know that he's ever said he wants to wipe Ukraine off the map.
	No, that seems like a bastardization of what Iran wants to do with Israel.
	Kind of a talking point.
	Well, that's what the Palestinians would love to do with Israel.
	And that's what they like to teach.
	And that's what a lot of these Middle Eastern countries like to do with Israel.
	But this will never get mentioned in this liberal media environment.
	No, why would they?
	No, no, no.
	Don't do that.
	No, Putin.
	In fact, it goes on.
	Let's play the clip.
	This is where she talks about Russia.
	This is the Russia part of it.
	First of all, I don't think they would stop in Ukraine.
	They would move on to Poland, to the Baltic states, even to Germany, I think.
	Okay, that right there, it gets everything she said.
	Hold on a second.
	First of all, I don't think they would stop in Ukraine.
	They would move on to Poland, to the Baltic states, even to Germany, I think.
	Wow!
	So this woman actually thinks the Russians...
	Are going to not stop at Ukraine, even though they can't even get halfway through there.
	They won't stop with Ukraine.
	They're going to go to Poland.
	And Germany.
	And then Germany.
	So right there, this is a person who is, I think, clinically insane.
	This is not an analyst that you would want to have on a show, and of course, this guy didn't push back at all.
	In fact, let's listen to this pairing of clips.
	This is all NPR, by the way, with the National Treasure.
	Let's listen to this.
	This is Ann Applebaum on social media, and this is Q Adam, because this is going to ask a question afterwards.
	Okay.
	Actually, there's a lot of evidence that the kind of connection that you get from social media only makes you feel more lonely and isolated.
	You know, people talk about being on social media and feeling afterwards worse about themselves, worse about their relationships.
	And one of the things she writes about in her book is the way in which autocrats use loneliness.
	So they separate people from one another, and that then makes it easier to dominate them.
	When people aren't able to act together, when they're not active, when they're not participants in society, then they can't push back.
	They can't even think about the nature of the political reality that they live in.
	Okay, I'm biting my tongue.
	So I'm listening to that thinking, oh my God, that's an interesting observation she made back in the 50s, Hannah Arendt.
	Do you think that might, for example, apply to, let's say, lockdowns?
	COVID lockdowns?
	Yes!
	That came to mind.
	COVID lockdowns and maybe the COVID lockdowns are used as a political tool.
	No, wait.
	What she said is the isolation become easier to control.
	She is describing the exact setup for mass formation.
	And then what you need for mass formation to be besides all the isolation and free floating anxieties is you need something that people can bond to.
	During COVID lockdown, it was mass social distancing vaccine.
	Now, during inflation and general malaise, the thing we can all get together and focus on is Putin.
	So yes, yes, it's a technique.
	So the journalist...
	In me, would ask about the idea of the...
	Because she's leading right into it.
	Yeah.
	That lockdowns are what you just described, not social media.
	And how would you phrase that exactly to her?
	I would say, well, what you said is interesting because it brings to mind the lockdowns.
	Lockdowns create loneliness.
	Lockdowns do this.
	Lockdowns do that.
	So, that would be something I'd expect to come out.
	What comes out, do you think?
	Do you think that's what he asked?
	Somehow, I don't think our NPR national treasure reporter asked anything about that.
	Let's see what he says.
	And does it make us vulnerable to misinformation?
	Okay, yes.
	Hold on.
	Let me pivot right to this.
	So, do you remember I read to you the Brookings Institution podcasting needs to be moderated piece?
	On the last show.
	Yes, a 10-point gem.
	Yes.
	Now, I was reviewing this because I was talking to Dave Jones about it in Podcasting 2.0 context, and I'm reviewing this piece, and the two artificial intelligence data scientists who penned this, and you called it.
	You said, that seems kind of like a repeat.
	You know, it's like, haven't we already heard all this?
	So then I started...
	Kind of looking at the meat of this, of what they've done here.
	And again, this is all about policy recommendations for podcasts.
	Listen to this.
	Below the level of blatantly illegal content, the most popular podcasting apps face a daunting challenge.
	On the one hand, given the scale and reach of apps like Spotify and Apple Podcasts, each now enjoys more than 25 million podcast listeners in the United States.
	Their content moderation policies need to account for the societal harms that can result from the mass distribution of hate speech and misinformation.
	Popular podcasts played a prominent role in spreading the so-called big lie in the lead-up to the January 6th assault on the U.S. Capitol.
	So prominent role is a links.
	So I click on the link.
	And we go to, on the morning of January 6, 2021, Steve Bannon encouraged the audience of his podcast not to waver in their faith.
	Okay.
	I continue to read.
	They've also been a key vector in spreading misinformation related to COVID-19 vaccines leading to unnecessary deaths.
	And again, an article about Steve Bannon.
	So, you know, Steve Bannon is not the boss of all podcasts at all.
	But then President Obama gives a speech.
	People like Putin, and Steve Bannon for that matter, understand it's not necessary for people to believe this information in order to weaken democratic institutions.
	You just have to flood a country's public square with enough raw sewage.
	You just have to raise enough questions, spread enough dirt.
	So what are the chances that we have this Brookings Institution paper coming out, clearly focused on one podcaster, Steve Bannon, for sure, a popular podcast, and that President Obama highlights him as well?
	You could have highlighted, if anything, if you want to say, hey, podcasts are killing people, why not grab Joe Rogan?
	He told people to eat horse paste, did he not?
	No, Steve Bannon.
	Yeah, but there's a good reason for Steve Bannon and not Joe Rogan.
	Well, there's lots of good reasons.
	No, there's one good reason.
	Steve Bannon is closely associated with Trump.
	He was a member of the Trump administration.
	He was the chief strategist for a while.
	And he's still associated with him.
	I don't even know if the two of them like each other anymore.
	But Steve Bannon is connected to Trump.
	Rogan is not.
	He's not connected to Trump in the least.
	And if you found somebody else that was doing a podcast that was anything like Steve Banners that was connected to Trump, they'd throw him in.
	But Steve Banners is a low-hanging fruit.
	I don't know if he's a fruit or not, but he's low-hanging.
	But there's just no coincidences in politics.
	I'm listening to this like, okay, what a setup.
	No, this is part of the whole thing.
	They're just trying to...
	These guys are so preoccupied with Trump and his influence on the Republican Party, they can't seem to, you know, shake it.
	They can't shake it.
	And Bannon is just another example.
	Um...
	So censorship, or call it what you want, content moderation, seems to have hit home, but not here.
	No, no, no.
	There's juicy, and I was reading through it a little bit, I have some highlights, but juicy legislation in the European Union.
	The European Union agreed on legislation today for landmark new rules that will push the world's biggest social media companies to stop the spread of online information.
	Misinformation, I should say.
	It's called the Digital Services Act and it's expected to be passed into law in Europe where companies like Google, Meta and Twitter could face fines if they don't remove hate speech, propaganda or other material from their sites.
	This is going to be a mess.
	We couldn't even...
	I mean, half the sites in the United States have just given up on GDPR, on the EU regulation of data privacy.
	How many websites have we...
	Well, last time I was there, you bring it up in the EU, it's like, sorry, you're in the EU, we can't give you this content.
	So now they're going to force all these companies to deal with hate speech?
	Hate speech, mind you.
	Hate speech.
	This is just...
	This started with the bullying.
	We couldn't believe it 10 years ago, 11 years ago.
	Story after story.
	Oh, bullying, bullying.
	And we, as the boomers we are, what happened?
	Sticks and stones will break my bones.
	And then we got bullying laws.
	Remember that?
	There was legislation in some states.
	And then that turned into hate speech.
	Completely protected by the Constitution.
	Now, the European Union doesn't follow the United States Constitution.
	They do have a number of, you know, freedom...
	And by the way, they don't talk about freedom of speech in the EU documents.
	It's freedom of expression.
	Which I think is a subtle but important difference.
	And this thing is being ramrodded down the EU's throat.
	Of course, it's not all approved yet, and it has to go through the Starfleet command, and then the unimportant parliament will vote with that.
	I have no say.
	That doesn't mean that it doesn't pass.
	It's not like they can really stop anything.
	Oh, no, it failed.
	No, it just means it goes back and it gets a yellow card and they change some things and send it back and have a little chat with everybody.
	I think you've got to get on board with this.
	So this is going to be a mess.
	And it's going to affect the U.S. too, just in how stuff works.
	Is Twitter just going to be a bunch of Yankees yapping at each other?
	That's boring.
	Well, I don't know.
	Call me pinkos.
	I've been reading through these documents.
	It's a hootenanny.
	Well, a hootenanny is where you sit around and sing along.
	Yeah, well, they're doing a hootenanny sing-along.
	It's thick.
	There's so much.
	And there's liability.
	Oh, man.
	They're killing the internet.
	Well, they're trying, too.
	Yeah, you probably wouldn't feel it's a bad thing.
	All it says to me, everything you're talking about just keeps thinking, are there any VPNs that are publicly traded?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I get a lot of requests about it.
	What VPN do you use?
	What do you use, John?
	Can you talk about that?
	I recommend two VPNs.
	Nord and PIA, Private Internet Access.
	Those are the two I like.
	We use both of them.
	Hillary Clinton is...
	By the way, you know, if you use Opera as a browser, it's got a VPN built into it.
	You want to just turn that on?
	It works pretty well.
	Hillary Clinton tweets, For too long, tech platforms have amplified disinformation and extremism with no accountability.
	The EU is poised to do something about it.
	I urge our transatlantic allies to push the Digital Services Act across the finish line and bolster global democracy.
	Global democracy, Hillary.
	Before it's too late...
	How does the online, the Digital Services Act somehow spur global democracy?
	Does every country get a vote now?
	I don't know.
	And so instead of fact-checkers, this is my last bit on this.
	Instead of fact-checkers, they have a new term.
	Trusted flaggers.
	Which to me is a show title.
	That sounds like something that goes on in a nudist colony.
	If that sounds like a show title to me, it's like trusted flaggers.
	I like it.
	So you're going to have people who are, I guess, collaborators, or maybe in Harlem we were called NSBers, who will be sleuthing along and they'll be trusted.
	You know, they'll have some kind of status.
	I'm thinking an armband.
	Or something cool like that.
	Or maybe a special handsome wallet ID that says trusted flagger.
	Back off.
	And they're going to be snooping around and they'll recruit just tens of thousands of them.
	And you'll be flagged by these trusted flaggers.
	They're going to recruit citizens to snark and snitch on their neighbors.
	These would be Macintosh users who hate me personally.
	My Uncle Rennie is...
	Gosh, Rennie is...
	86, I think.
	He's the NASA scientist.
	And he says, you know, Dvorak, man, I read him all the time back in the Apple II days.
	And I think he was quite a fan.
	Could be.
	Yeah.
	Back in the day.
	Good for him.
	So...
	So, unfortunately...
	We had a little moment there where I thought that we'd have an acceleration of the Fediverse, which is what NoAgendaSocial.com is a part of.
	It's the Mastodon, and you can have...
	I think we did it the smart way.
	We have max 10,000 people, but you can create your own Mastodon server.
	You can join as many others.
	Some may block us, but that's kind of how it's supposed to work.
	And so it scales that way, in a distributed manner.
	Truth Social, which was Trump's, you know, was supposed to be Trump's big social network, as we know, was rolling out on Mastodon and, you know...
	What I understood was they weren't going to federate right away, but at least it was, you know, the system has no algorithms, and there was the potential to, you know, to really scale it much bigger with other systems.
	That failed.
	I believe, sadly, the guys who were doing it, for whatever reason, they couldn't get it to scale.
	And now, the worst thing that could happen, Truth Social migrates to the rumble cloud.
	So we're right back where we were.
	You know, centralized system, algorithms.
	I'm not saying it's going to be exactly like Rumble, but if you're on the Rumble cloud, you're using the infrastructure, then we're just going to have another centralized piece of crap system.
	You know, I'm sad about that.
	They had the right idea, these guys, but I can see, you know, oh, now we have to be number one, the best.
	There you go.
	No, there's that.
	And so, away it went.
	At least they didn't go to bit shoot.
	There's always Bridey on.
	And with that...
	I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the curry reunion.
	Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my colleague, Mr.
	John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Let's not mess around.
	Let's just say in the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Let's count them right away.
	Hello?
	Okay, hands up, trolls.
	Let me see how many we have here.
	How many are in the troll room?
	And did I get anything?
	Did I... No, I have nothing.
	Okay.
	Oh, here.
	Count was failing.
	Try one more time.
	It's failing.
	It's failing.
	I have no idea.
	I have no idea how many trolls are in the troll room.
	Maybe someone...
	Oh, there we go.
	2303.
	That's reasonable.
	That's very reasonable for a Sunday.
	Well, Charles, good to see you here.
	Thanks for hanging out.
	Thanks for waiting extra long.
	In fact, we can't really compare it fairly because we're not doing the show live at the same time.
	So maybe we get more people.
	Oh, wait.
	Here we go.
	2268.
	Okay.
	I guess we got a new number.
	You're dropping like flies.
	If you want to troll along and make horrible comments so we can slam you on the show, go to trollroom.io and hop in that troll room, and you, of course, are listening live on Thursdays and Sundays.
	It's a 24-hour stream, noagendastream.com.
	There's all kinds of live programming.
	Darren O'Neill did a four-hour rock and roll pre-show, and I think he was taking requests, and he's always interacting with the troll room.
	And if it's just a recorded podcast, then you can troll each other or just comment on it.
	Trollroom.io, you get both in one shot.
	We talked about noagendasocial.com.
	If you want to see what all the hullabaloo is about, then follow Adam at noagendasocial.com or John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com and you can participate in the Gitmo Nation conversation there.
	And we'd like to thank the artists for episode 1445, 44, sorry, that was Capitalist Agenda.
	Capitalist.
	Capitalist agenda.
	Who brought us a very nice piece of art that had all kinds of problems, but we still loved it.
	And this was the cheesecake, Redhead.
	Oh, yeah.
	With her mask removed, a mask tan line, and a little airplane in the back.
	And it was just a completely nice piece.
	I got some pushback on it, you know, like, well, how come there's no tan line over her nose?
	Good point.
	And how come there's two loops on one side?
	Yeah.
	Oh, by the way, there are masks with two loops like that.
	Okay.
	Well, I thought the knot over the nose was a pretty good catch.
	The nose catch was dynamite.
	I agree with that.
	But, you know, come on.
	By the way, A, it's a cartoon.
	Yes, true.
	Let's take a look at what else we saw in the...
	Well, there was a lot of good pieces.
	I kind of was attracted to the redhead because of the cheesecake aspect.
	I'm a big advocate of this.
	Even though it's old school, it's a sexist old school idea of how to get attention.
	It works!
	And you put a pretty girl on there instead of, you know, Biden, let's say, or Fauci.
	Yeah, you might get a click or two more.
	I like the CDC. I like Parker Pauly with the bag over the head of the people.
	Yeah, we both like that.
	We talked about that.
	Yeah.
	You like the Mickey Mouse flipping the finger?
	I love the Mickey Mouse flipping the finger, but it was, you know, unfortunately, I don't think we should be using flipping the finger as our art.
	But I like the way it was executed.
	I thought it was excellent as Darren O'Neill.
	Parker Pauly also did a nice job with the airplane dropping a bunch of masks.
	Yeah, that was unclear to me because it didn't immediately...
	It looked like little diamonds or something.
	It didn't quite register as a mask to me right away.
	Yeah.
	We had talked about Darren's No Agenda woke flicks now with ads, which in a pinch would have been usable.
	I like the woke flicks quite a bit.
	You liked it.
	We both liked it.
	It didn't have the oomph.
	Missing the oomph, yes.
	And we got a lot of feedback on the piece that we chose.
	Like, oh, kind of underproduced, since we complained about overproduction of art.
	I don't know if you saw all that going on on any social.
	Oh, yes, underproduced.
	Yes, well, in fact, Dame Kenny Ben, who was condemned for one of her pieces, did a piece on us condemning it.
	Yeah.
	Which we noticed.
	And then I pointed out on the No Agenda Social that her typography on the bubble was too small.
	So she redid it.
	But she's glad that we weren't offended by the fact that we're represented by a bald fart whose dog is peeing on his feet.
	Beautiful piece.
	Criticize her piece.
	It was a great piece.
	Inside jokes were always a winner on this.
	Very inside.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this was kind of the main thing comic strip bloggers specialized in for probably a year.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Which is kind of...
	Yeah, he gave up on that.
	I think he got tired of doing funny art inside jokes and it never getting used.
	Go figure.
	Well, it's never going to get used.
	The idea is just to get our attention.
	Yeah.
	Well, we appreciate Capitalist Agenda and the work that all of our artists do.
	Please have a look at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	It's well worth it.
	And, of course, you can contribute.
	And a lot of these images go into newsletters, but they also are used by noagendashop.com.
	Who then will make t-shirts, mugs, hoodies, beer cozies, all kinds of stuff.
	And they give the artist a fair representation of value of part of the sales and they wind up donating to the podcast.
	So it's well worth your time to go check it out and you can contribute.
	And if you're using a modern podcast app, and by now you should have figured out that you need to drop the legacy stuff because you're going to wake up one day and no agenda might not be on or some other podcast you like.
	Who knows?
	And there's also lots of features, like all of the artwork.
	The most recent submissions you'll see are in the chapter art.
	And for that, you need a new podcast app.
	Go to newpodcastapps.com.
	Now, our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1445, we kick it off with a knighthood donation from Anthony Perdue from Leavenworth, Kansas, $950.
	Please give me an LGY for finally catching up with the value I receive from you guys.
	Yay!
	And this donation completes my knighthood.
	I would like to be knighted, Sir Reverend Cybertrucker, Knight of the Asphalt Rivers.
	Keep up the humanitarian work, gents.
	Thank you, and we'll see you at the roundtable.
	Sir Stoner Boner, thank you for that one.
	And Kent Washington comes in next with $420.
	We were actually very short on today's donations, but Adam was traveling, and I don't know if that had anything to do with it.
	Guys, he writes, Sir Stoner Boner here, coming in with my annual donation to show appreciation.
	I meant to send this on 420, but celebrated too hard and forgot.
	Using F... The number 4, I'm sorry.
	And God.
	It's an interesting look to it.
	It looks like a disease.
	I continue to appreciate everything you do to keep us sane.
	A karma jingle to all knights and dames, please.
	Yes, we shall do such.
	You know, there was...
	I gotta tell you a story about the 420.
	You've got karma.
	So I got a note from one of our producers who...
	Executive Bruce for the last show.
	And he had a really weird donation number.
	It was something like 35916.
	And then he had all these, you know, like two Fauci wheezes, another Fauci wheeze, like a weird jingle combo.
	I remember that.
	Yeah.
	And we couldn't quite figure it out.
	And so he emails me.
	He said, you know, I have to be honest, I'm a tad disappointed.
	I'm like, well, what is this about?
	He says, I donated.
	I thought you would get the 420 joke.
	And what happened is he donated $420 Canadian, and thinking that we see, of course, the $420, get the joke, and then there's all this Fauci wheeze, like he's inhaling, bogarting a joint, passing it on.
	But because it was translated into dollars, it became, you know, a number that was completely unrecognizable.
	Something we need to, you need to be aware of, if you're sending in Scandinavian dollaretts or Australian dollary-doos, Expect that.
	If it's a numerology thing, put that in the note.
	Yeah, put it in the note.
	Say, this is 420 Canadian dollar rates.
	No matter where the dollar is from, we credit you equal on the U.S. That'll probably eventually even out anyway.
	So thank you very much for that.
	And thank you, Sir Stoner Boner.
	Michael Jewell is in Livonia, Michigan.
	Our favorite number, 333.33, the only one with a series of threes like that.
	Biscuit on my birthday, don't enslave me, and I love bugs.
	Okay, did I miss one here?
	No, I guess not.
	ITM, please add me to the birthday list and fabled wine list.
	Does this list exist, the fabled wine list?
	Yes, the list exists.
	How come I'm not on it?
	How come I'm not on it?
	I haven't sent anything to anybody on the list.
	Why would you get something?
	Well, am I on the list?
	I don't know.
	It's a big list.
	I don't look at the list as he was on it.
	Did you ever subscribe?
	How can I subscribe?
	Where do I subscribe?
	Oh, okay.
	This will be worked out in the months ahead.
	Okay.
	Make sure you're on the list.
	Today, not only will I be celebrating the creation of my IMDB page for this executive producer credit on show day 1445, but it's also my 35th trip around the sun.
	This Rogan donation is long overdue from Adam's first JRE appearance, and I kindly ask for a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	Thank you for your courage.
	May you never find an exit strategy, Mike Jewell.
	You know, one of the...
	It was a fiancé, I think fiancé, or maybe a long-term boyfriend of one of my step...
	Was it second cousin?
	We're talking.
	He's a cop.
	And he doesn't know, I don't think, much about me.
	He's young.
	I'm a boomer, I guess, in his eyes.
	And he said, oh, podcast, yeah.
	Did you ever listen to Joe Rogan?
	I said, yeah, I've been on it a couple of times.
	What?
	I said, yeah.
	Brother.
	And he says, you know what I do all the time?
	When I have traffic duty, I have to direct traffic, I'm just listening to Rogan.
	He said, I got the earpieces and I'm just listening to Rogan while I'm directing traffic.
	A traffic cop?
	Well, no, sometimes.
	He's a young guy, so he's got to earn his spurs, you know, so sometimes he has to do traffic duty.
	I thought, that's interesting.
	I wonder how many cops are doing that, just completely tuned out, listening to podcasts.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	Don't enslave me, camera!
	I love bugs!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs!
	Mmm.
	Tastes like poop.
	Thank you, Michael.
	That story is depressing, but I'll continue with Lee North.
	Sir Goon in Kansas City, Kansas, 333.00.
	It's my 45th birthday on April 23rd.
	Thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
	Do we have a short birthday jingle?
	Not that I know of.
	Need some R2D2 Karma?
	Thanks.
	KF0BEH73s.
	73s.
	Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	Yeah, we do have a...
	We use this one for short.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	That's what you get.
	That's what you get.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Viscount Ed...
	LeBoutier from Tucson, Arizona, 333.
	I knew I had to donate to No Agenda when the last time I tried to download the show, it stopped downloading at 33 megabytes.
	We do that on purpose.
	I was hoping that you could help me plug a project I've been involved with.
	Well, sure.
	It's called Elephant in the Room.
	It's a great new musical play about a young girl's attempt to understand the left-right divide in America.
	It provides a refreshingly new perspective on this serious issue on our time.
	It chronicles a young girl on her journey of political discovery amid the riotous upheavals of 2019 at fictitious Eugene State College in Oregon.
	In her struggles, the protagonist develops new understanding and perspectives of her own.
	Maybe it can help you gain a new perspective, too.
	Check out Elephant in the Room the Musical for more information.
	ElephantMusical.com Thank you for your courage.
	Is Ed in the biz?
	Is Ed Laboutier in the musical business?
	I don't know.
	He's involved in the project.
	All right, Ed.
	Thank you very much.
	So done.
	He's got the name for it.
	An Ed Laboutier production.
	Sir Ever of the Watt is our first associate executive producer from Linwood, Michigan, 23456.
	And he writes, and he's got a nighting, I guess, from Sir Ever of the Watt.
	First happy birthday to my bride, Kathleen, a 43-year second.
	For my accounting, I would like to become the baron.
	Oh, he's a baron upgrade.
	Title upgrade, yep.
	Yeah, Baron of, you know, that place.
	The thing.
	The thing.
	You know, the thing.
	The place.
	When he's got the place.
	You know that place.
	No jingles, no karma.
	11 April 20th.
	Yeah, he is counting there.
	You bet, Sir Ever of the What, you will be a Baron today.
	Andrew Kresick, we're almost there, is Associate Executive Producer.
	Painesville, Ohio, has got a row of ducks, 2222.22.
	And Andrew says, Andrew Kresick, Yeah, here.
	This is a yearly donation for my birthday, April 22nd, and my second-to-last donation before knighthood.
	Excellent.
	I've been listening for going on roughly seven years now since I was a freshman in high school and about to hit senior status in college for dudes named Ben.
	You two have been keeping me sane and woke to what really goes on in the world despite all the noise I'm getting from everything and everyone on campus.
	Keep the sanity coming and the amygdala small.
	Excellent, Andrew.
	Excellent.
	Can I say something here?
	Mm-hmm.
	I'm not sure how forever of the what becomes a baron if his previous donations amounted to $15.93 and he's donating $23.456.
	If he got to $2,000, that would be a baronet, for starters.
	Well, this should...
	I put it on here.
	I wouldn't have questioned it if he hadn't put it on here.
	Well, but is that his total donations that he's saying there, or is that just his most recent donations?
	What's the point of saying anything?
	I don't know.
	I'm not in charge of any of this.
	I just look at the pretty colors and read the spreadsheet.
	Okay, we're going to baron him upgrade, but I think he should reconsider what he did.
	Okay.
	You're up.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I'm finishing this then.
	Are you done with Andrew?
	Yeah.
	Okay, Danella Pompo in Los Angeles, California, is the last on the list.
	And she says, page three, de-douche me, and please give me a top-of-the-shelf karma.
	Do you have the page there?
	Because I don't.
	Top-of-the-shelf job karma.
	You've been de-douched.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.
	You've got karma.
	And that is our executive producers and associate executive producers for show 1445.
	Yeah.
	Thank you all very much.
	You already saw someone getting their IMDb account all set up because these credits are just like Hollywood.
	Executive producers, associate executive producers, There you're typically responsible for the entire production budget.
	Here we get to split it up and we give you the appropriate credit.
	We don't have actors and actresses for you to hang out with and no drugs and stuff.
	Well, we do have a round table if you make it to knighthood or damehood.
	But thank you very much for the support.
	We'll be thanking more of our producers in our second segment.
	And again, thank you for producing episode 1445 of the No Agenda Show.
	If you'd like to be an executive producer, check this out.
	Thank you for bringing your time, talent, and treasure the three Ts that make it all happen.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water! Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Hey, okay.
	I have a series of clips on the Florida situation.
	You mean the Don't Say Gay bill or the Disney stuff?
	I guess it's all the same thing.
	It's kind of the same thing.
	Well, actually, it also fits into this, which is about masks.
	Oh, okay.
	Anything to demean Florida.
	I'm talking about the judge who said you don't have to wear masks and everyone went nuts.
	Right.
	Well, it turns into a hit piece on NPR on this poor judge.
	And I think it's a shameless hit piece.
	Okay.
	And I think it's worth playing.
	This judge's decision on Matt.
	Sorry?
	No, I was waiting for your cue and I hit it wrong.
	Okay.
	Oh, no, I'm sorry.
	Judge's decision on mass hit piece NPR. Nearly all major airlines, transit systems, and ride-sharing services have made masks optional.
	It's after ruling earlier this week from Judge Catherine Kimball-Mizell that abruptly struck down the rule from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that required masks on public transit.
	The Biden administration waited a couple of days before announcing they'd appeal the ruling.
	NPR's Lena Simmons-Duffin has been speaking with health law experts all week.
	Selina, thanks for being with us.
	Hi, morning, Scott.
	First, remind us, please.
	Hey, she got the NPR memo.
	Hi, morning, Scott.
	It was in Judge Meisel's opinion.
	Yeah, so Judge Mizell was nominated by former President Trump, and she was given a rating of unqualified by the American Bar Association because of her limited time practicing law and her lack of trial experience.
	Wow, is that true?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah.
	Well, of course, you go ad hominem when you have something that, you know, you don't want to, what she's doing now.
	It's got nothing to do.
	No, no.
	She's, first of all, Trump.
	Yep.
	Unqualified.
	Unqualified.
	And then she's unqualified in some way.
	We don't have any...
	By the way, she's going to...
	Now the next part of it, she's going to talk about some people who told her what they think.
	And instead of balancing it with maybe somebody who says, yeah, this is probably a pretty good decision because who needs this kind of aggravation?
	No, no, no.
	We have none of that.
	It's all negative.
	And it's just...
	This is a classic journalistic hit piece on the poor judge.
	And here we go.
	In this ruling, she found that CDC didn't have the authority to issue this mask requirement and that it didn't follow the right procedures.
	Legal experts I talked with this week had very strong words about this opinion.
	One called it a legal abomination.
	Whoa, you got butt slammed!
	Another said it read like a first-year law student's exam.
	And they said the reasoning was a stretch and that she ignored legal norms.
	And that this ruling has huge implications.
	Not only did it lead to people pulling off their masks mid-flight all over the country, but it could have the effect of limiting the power of CDC to issue public health rules down the line.
	Huh.
	There's no other side to this, of course, because why would you do that?
	I'm sure there's somebody that thinks it was a good decision.
	Wait a minute, you mean they didn't balance it out?
	No.
	Even a little bit?
	No.
	No, none.
	None whatsoever.
	It's classic.
	That's disappointing.
	It's par for the course.
	Well, it makes our show better, for sure.
	That's always fun.
	Well, yeah, it's good for the show.
	So, no, they just blast her, and she's an idiot, and she's, you know, everyone that I talk to says she's stupid.
	And then they go on.
	There's actually, what's interesting in these clips is there's actually something revealing that I found kind of interesting at the end.
	But let's go to part three.
	Then why did it take a few days for the Department of Justice, under the Biden administration, to file an appeal?
	Yeah, it's kind of strange.
	If the government wanted this back into effect right away, you would have expected lightning speed, like they would have asked for an emergency pause on her decision right away, but they didn't.
	Stephen Vladek teaches law at the University of Texas, and he has a theory about this which relates to the fact that the mandate is set to end on May 3rd.
	Because the mandate's about to expire anyway, it seems just as possible that the government's real goal is to wipe off of the books, Judge Meisel's ruling, striking it down.
	How does that work?
	I mean, I took civics in high school, but I still don't understand.
	How does that work?
	It's a little obscure.
	So this is the part of the story that has a surprising connection to underwear from the 1940s.
	Oh, nice one.
	Okay, we're going from hit piece to bathroom humor.
	So what this guy brings up is interesting.
	Now, this assumes, of course, nobody's going to fight what they're going to try to pull here.
	And it's a stunt.
	It's a Democrat stunt.
	The idea is the peruling really screwed up the idea that the CDC could become a little Himmler.
	And, you know, tell you what, I'm a health department guy.
	Shut it down.
	Shut it down.
	Well, also, the May 3rd date was not an ending date.
	That was a continuation, another two weeks, of which there would be another review after two weeks to see if we should do two more weeks.
	But yes, I agree.
	Even what Jen Psaki said is this is about...
	Future use to determine what power the CDC has.
	And of course, that's going to be super important for the next lockdown, if it's bird flu or if it's gunfire, because it's also bad for your health.
	Whatever it is.
	Or your favorite, climate change.
	Well, of course, that's what we expect, is stay indoors.
	Bad climate day.
	What does that have to do with underwear from the 40s?
	Well, they explain it.
	I think this is kind of tricky, and I thought this was the part that mainstream really didn't pick up on.
	This professor at UT over there down in Austin, he picked up on it.
	Actually, I think he may have blown it because...
	This could have been let to slide until they let the cat out of the bag and smart money is going to go, wait a minute, okay, we've got to take this a little more seriously, thanks to him.
	So let's hear it.
	Stick with me.
	Back in 1944, the federal government sued Munsing Ware, a Minnesota-based underwear company, because it said the company had overpriced its heavy-knit underwear and that violated wartime price controls.
	It took years for the case to wind its way through the appeals process.
	And by the time it got to the Supreme Court in 1950, there were no more price controls on the underwear.
	So in its decision, the Supreme Court established the Munsing Ware Doctrine, which is a very Basically, if the dispute has gone away during the appeals process, the higher court can wipe the lower court's ruling away.
	So in this case, after May 3rd, Vladek says...
	The government can say, look, we're not going to have a chance to argue why Judge Mizell's ruling was incorrect.
	Therefore, the proper thing to do is to wipe that ruling off the books and just dismiss this entire lawsuit.
	Of course, he says only the government knows its legal strategy here, but every day that the government does not request to stay, he's more convinced that this is the real goal, to vacate the ruling so that, legally speaking, it never happened.
	Wow, so that Supreme Court would have to do that?
	I don't know how.
	I think it knows because the months in where doctrine was already established, then we have to just put that in place.
	Oh, just say the Supreme Court ruled that way and here we go.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	That's a good catch.
	It's very tricky.
	It's a legal trick?
	They're going to pull this legal trick and at the same time while we're at it, let's just slam this poor woman out of the blue and demean her and smear her the best we can with no balance whatsoever and make this whole thing one-sided, lopsided in a very unfair manner, very ad hoc, ad hominem manner, which is what NPR did and they should be very proud of themselves.
	I'm a little disappointed, quite frankly.
	They could have said something about Nish.
	They could have added, you know, she's ugly.
	Oh, they could have.
	Her mom wears army boots.
	You know, it could have been anything.
	They could have added all kinds of stuff.
	Wow, that's a good one.
	Well, it's very important.
	Now, aside from climate change, May 22nd to 28th is the big international health regulation amendments session, which will be voted on by the World Health Assembly, and President Biden is going to be there.
	Let me see.
	We have...
	There's a number of...
	In body.
	Yeah.
	So this was announced by the White House, announced this.
	The U.S. as chair of the first summit last September, which we did have, is co-hosting the upcoming meeting with Belize.
	They are the Caribbean community chair, CARICOM. Germany will be in charge of this.
	They hold the G7 presidency.
	Indonesia, who currently hold the presidency of the G20, And Senegal as the African Union chair.
	And what the White House said is they will be redoubling their collective efforts to end the acute phase of COVID-19 pandemic and prepare for future health threats!
	So the hosts, which includes us, the U.S., are calling on world leaders, members of civil society, non-governmental organizations, philanthropists, and the private sector to make new commitments and bring solutions to vaccinate the world!
	I think we actually have a clip of that.
	Hold on a second.
	You'll like this.
	I thought I had a vaccinate the world.
	Maybe somewhere.
	So, what I've been trying to...
	What we get to in the past couple of episodes is this treaty, the pandemic treaty that the World Health Organization supposedly is drawing up, is drafting.
	And it's the International Health Regulations, which the U.S. agreed to in 2005.
	And these are treaties.
	Can the President agree to a treaty without Congress voting on it?
	I think Congress has to approve.
	I thought they had to, yeah.
	The 75th meeting of the World Health Assembly will be held in Geneva, Switzerland, May 22nd to 28th.
	The Assembly will vote on the amendments to the International Health Regulation.
	And this is the vaccinate the world thing, the pandemic treaty.
	And it means that when the World Health Organization and subsequently the International Health Regulations call for lockdowns, vaccinations, etc., We have to adhere to it if it gets passed by Congress, if it has to be ratified by Congress.
	So this is New World Order stuff they're doing here.
	And there's very little known about it, but you can go to don'tyoudare.info to get a probably slanted spot.
	I thought we had the, I thought I had that vaccinate the world.
	I'm disappointed now.
	I have a couple of things that are kind of along these lines.
	Just, they're different, but they're kind of, again, something you have to, you're good at this and you have to tell me what's going on here.
	This, on the 22nd of April, just a couple days ago, Bill Gates gave a TED Talk to spike the ball about his earlier TED Talk, 2015, I think, when he predicted a pandemic.
	Right.
	So he's spiking the ball and talking about what's next, the next horrible thing.
	And I just have two sub clips.
	I could have probably gotten more because he does this all the time.
	But here he goes laughing in the middle of a sentence.
	His tell, you know.
	And I got two of them.
	I want you to tell me what you think he's laughing at here.
	This is Gates' TED Talk laugh.
	Is like a horrific global fire.
	The COVID pandemic has killed millions and upended economies.
	And we want to stop that from happening again.
	So let me think why he would be laughing there.
	It is like a horrific global fire.
	The COVID pandemic has killed millions and upended economies.
	And we want to stop that from happening again.
	Well, to me it sounds...
	It's a subtle one.
	Yeah, it's very subtle.
	We want to stop that.
	So maybe he doesn't want to stop that.
	He doesn't actually want to stop it.
	Or he's still laughing about the millions of people dying.
	Either way, it's inappropriate and creepy.
	Here's the second one he does.
	COVID-19 can be the last pandemic if we take the right steps.
	So how?
	What are these steps?
	It's got to be like an arrogance type thing.
	I know what we're going to do.
	Or maybe not.
	Well, his steps, by the way, I'll tell you.
	He says, ah, we're going to take these steps.
	The steps are global government.
	Yes, IHR. Yeah.
	There was another laugh tell.
	This came, and it was about COVID, and this came from President Obama.
	And yet, despite the fact that we've now...
	Essentially clinically tested the vaccine on billions of people worldwide.
	So everyone caught this.
	He said we have now essentially clinically tested the vaccine on billions of people worldwide.
	Now this was not supposed to be a global test by rolling it out.
	We're not guinea pigs.
	We were told that consistently.
	No, this is safe.
	It's effective.
	In 75 years, you can see the trial...
	I'm laughing now.
	In 75 years, you can see the trial data from Pfizer.
	But President Obama laughs at...
	Effectively, we tested it on you, you stoops!
	And yet, despite the fact that we've now essentially clinically tested the vaccine on billions of people worldwide...
	Around one in five Americans is still willing to put themselves at risk and put their families at risk.
	What?
	By taking the vaccine?
	Yeah.
	People are dying because of misinformation.
	Not misinformation.
	It's not just vaccines, it's misinformation.
	So he's laughing about it.
	So it's just a laugh fest.
	Do you think that they all sit together like kind of those dogs at the poker table in the famous painting just laughing at us?
	Well, they're laughing at us when they give these speeches and laugh right in the middle of it.
	That's odd.
	But it's like, what gets me is, do you think they should take some improv or maybe some acting classes so they can keep themselves from doing this?
	How hard is it?
	I don't notice that you do it.
	I just did it a minute ago.
	I don't think I do it.
	I just did it a minute ago because I was really laughing about it.
	Yeah, but you're not...
	Using it as a tell.
	It's not a tell.
	Right.
	You know, yes, we're going to do the No Agenda show next week.
	You know, I mean, I don't know.
	I don't even know the mechanism for that, but they just can't not do it.
	Well, then maybe if you take these two together, both Bill Gates and President Obama both know what's coming.
	And Bill Gates is telling us there's another pandemic coming.
	President Obama is laughing about how he tested this on y'all.
	You know who's not laughing?
	Fauci's not laughing.
	Political elements in society have determined that now they're going to villainize me.
	So they're going to take the person who was very much admired for reasons of caring for the public health.
	Wow!
	Just so you know, I'm very admired.
	So they're going to take the person who was very much admired for reasons of caring for the public health and making it a symbol of everything that's wrong with the world is me.
	Things like that.
	I'm destroying democracy.
	I'm taking away people's freedom.
	Man, that's really over the top.
	To speak of yourself in the third person about how great you are.
	Well, then he calls himself an it.
	He calls himself an it?
	Listen again.
	Political elements in society have determined that now they're going to villainize me.
	So they're going to take the person who was very much admired for reasons of caring for the public health and making it a symbol of everything that's wrong with the world is me.
	Not making me a symbol.
	I'm destroying democracy.
	I'm taking away people's freedom.
	Well, it is...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't just a misuse, but what he did.
	We're talking about screwballs and maniacs.
	Hold on a second.
	I just wanted to add...
	Let's just finish up COVID real quick.
	There's just a few things since we haven't done any of that.
	You might as well.
	I got nothing.
	Yeah, I got a few things.
	So Shanghai is...
	The majority of the Shanghai residents are still in lockdown.
	They are now raising fences...
	With shields in front of a lot of these apartment buildings and homes.
	So they're, in essence, kind of what happened in Wuhan.
	I don't think they're welding doors shut just yet.
	And people are kind of freaking out because now it's been, what, it's been 50 days, I believe, and people are in pretty dire straits.
	It appears, though, that President Xi is either taking advantage of this Or maybe this is what it's all about.
	He seems to be purging local officials, local politicians in Shanghai.
	The vice mayor has been rousted.
	Deputy mayor has been rousted.
	Who else?
	A couple of different people.
	According to Nikkei Asia, which is the financial news, these are all opponents or detractors in some way to Xi.
	And he seems to be getting rid of them.
	Well, he would claim that they're corrupted.
	And China is a...
	Country and perhaps a culture that is prone to corruption.
	You're right.
	Petty corruption.
	It says it right here.
	Since taking office, the 62-year-old Chinese leader has embarked on an aggressive anti-corruption campaign vowing to crack down on both tigers and flies, powerful leaders and low-level officials.
	Many view the drive as a move to consolidate power.
	Back to the mandate of heaven, man.
	You gotta think that he's worried.
	He's really, really worried.
	Well, when he first took office, he made some claims about corruption and he's going to wipe it out because he thinks it was a plague on China.
	Right.
	I've forgotten about that.
	You're right.
	And then during that era, a lot of the entrenched corrupted folk, the billionaire class and some of the others and some of these more public faces of billionaires, there's a couple that may disappear for a while, Jack Ma being one of them.
	Kind of turned on him and they started plotting against him.
	And there was all this discussion about, well, there's a second group of Chinese that might take over.
	And they, you know, talked about different guys that were out of power that might want to, you know, they're going to get rid of this Xi and put them in.
	And nothing's come of it.
	But I guess it's still an issue with him.
	Maybe personally, or maybe he just sees the writing on the wall.
	But...
	Well, he's coming up for his third term, which would be unprecedented in the modern era.
	Yes.
	And that'll tell the tale.
	We'll see what happens.
	Okay.
	Yes, and what else do I have on COVID? Oh, yeah.
	Actually, I have something very important.
	I almost forgot.
	I'm getting feedback.
	Everything's a mess today, John.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Here is.
	Yeah, this is it.
	This was the CDC issuing an alert.
	The CDC is asking physicians across the country to be on the lookout for unusual cases of severe hepatitis in children.
	Nine cases have been reported so far in Alabama, two others in North Carolina.
	Dozens of cases have also been identified in Europe.
	Several of the children became so sick, they needed a liver transplant.
	So far, all of the usual hepatitis viruses have been ruled out.
	Okay, I'm going to play a second report here.
	It's a little bit longer, but that is the United States.
	Nine cases, and I want to ask you specifically about what different kinds of hepatitis there are, but this is happening worldwide.
	Here's the United Kingdom.
	Health authorities in the UK and across the world are investigating a spike in sudden onset hepatitis amongst children.
	The number of young children in the UK affected since January this year is 108.
	77% of those have tested positive for adenovirus.
	There's a wide range of symptoms, but they are usually mild.
	Eight children have already received a liver transplant and more cases have also been confirmed in Ireland, Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands and the US. Our health correspondent, Ashish Joshi, has been speaking to the father of one three-year-old girl affected.
	He donated part of his liver to help her recover.
	A warning, his report contains photos of post-surgery scars.
	Warning.
	Lola Rose had hours to live.
	Her liver was failing.
	She was put into an induced coma.
	I didn't want to walk through those doors.
	I didn't want to see her like that.
	I did because she's my little girl and I wasn't going to let her do that alone, whether she knew I was there or not.
	I was going to be there, but seeing it for the first time was just horrendous.
	Lola needed a donor.
	Alan was told he was a match, and after lying side by side in surgery for more than seven hours, half of his liver was transplanted into his daughter.
	Lola's sudden onset hepatitis was triggered by an adenovirus infection, but it's a common infection that usually causes flu-like symptoms, not acute liver failure.
	We still have to report new cases.
	Dr.
	Tasos Grammaticopoulos is one of the country's leading pediatric liver specialists.
	And here at King's College Hospital, where Lola is being treated, they're seeing a rise in cases.
	Most recent lockdown and the pandemic has probably played a part on this because children have not been exposed to common pathogens, to common infections like they would to had we all been out and about.
	Okay, so there's a couple things that are going on here.
	Now, first of all, before COVID hit, we were hearing a lot about hepatitis.
	In fact, California.
	Here is just a quick throwback clip.
	Today, the city of San Diego started power washing parts of downtown in an effort to fight against the hepatitis A outbreak.
	So hepatitis A, I've heard adenovirus.
	There's multiple kinds of hepatitis.
	If you contract hepatitis...
	Depending on what age, do you go into liver failure quickly?
	I mean, this hepatitis is not good.
	The people in San Diego and also Los Angeles, you know, there's rats running everywhere before the pandemic.
	They were getting hepatitis.
	It's played with homeless.
	Yes.
	So tell me about hepatitis.
	What do you know about this?
	Well, the only thing I can just read...
	That's fine.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Which is, okay, there's five kinds.
	There's A, B, C, D, and E. And in the United States, it's A, B, and C. And I'll just read right from this thing directly.
	By the way, they didn't mention any A, B, or C. They just said hepatitis.
	I know, that bothers me in these reports.
	Yeah, it bothers me too.
	It's got to be one of them.
	Yeah.
	Alcoholic hepatitis is caused by heavy alcohol use.
	Toxic hepatitis can be caused by certain poisons, chemicals, medicines, or supplements.
	Okay.
	And these are viruses.
	It's caused by one of several viruses.
	Hepatitis, viruses, or hepatitis virus A, virus B, virus C, virus D. I don't know how that hooks up with the poisons and chemicals and medicines, to be honest about it.
	But...
	I don't know.
	Is there a coincidence with all the shots they're starting to give kids, you think?
	I mean, that's what I think we'd like.
	Yes.
	Well, they've tied it to COVID by saying, well, this is happening because kids were locked indoors and they weren't exposed to viruses.
	Therefore, they were ready, willing, and able to receive hepatitis.
	Doesn't sound really valid to me.
	No, that doesn't sound like it.
	So then there would be a viral hepatitis outbreak that would affect possibly everybody, and they would be warning that, hey, you need to get your hepatitis shot, or you have to do certain things.
	But just to say, oh shit, these kids got hepatitis, they got liver transplants, must be because of the lockdown.
	That seems like a real shortcut.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it seems to me that somebody should do some reporting on this and tell us what the hell's going on instead of just, you know, just kind of glossing it over is what they're doing.
	Yeah, I know.
	And yes, of course, what you immediately...
	And by the way, the adenovirus, isn't that the one that the methodology is using the Johnson& Johnson shot?
	No, are you kidding me?
	No, I'm pretty sure.
	It wasn't an adenovirus variant.
	They usually attach something onto it.
	You know, it's not for kids.
	I don't think kids got that shot.
	Yes, Johnson& Johnson adenovirus vaccine explained.
	You're so right.
	The Johnson& Johnson adenovirus vaccine explained.
	The COVID-19 vaccine allocation.
	You're right.
	Yes, their technology.
	That'd take a genius to figure that out.
	Well, there you go, Dr.
	Dvorak.
	You've been promoted to genius level.
	Like I said, it doesn't take a genius, so I'm not going to take that.
	Gee, that is a great catch.
	I forgot all about that.
	Besides the papers that have been revealed and the kind of deaths you get from the vaccine, it's now certain parts of the world saying, well, most of the people that have died have all been vaccinated.
	I mean, this suppression of information is out of control.
	Yeah, especially when it comes to your health.
	And they've just doubled down.
	They've just doubled down, man.
	Yeah, and then they doubled down by wanting to, oh God, let's censor podcasts because heaven forbid we talk about this stuff.
	It's all connected.
	Yeah, that would be wrong.
	Wow.
	Yeah, this makes it kind of sad.
	Okay, well, yay.
	Way to go, everybody.
	That's all I've got on COVID. There's your update.
	Be careful what you do.
	Oh yes, here's one.
	Puzzling phenomenon.
	Well, this is crazy.
	Patients who took the antiviral Paxlovid, this is the Pfizer pill, the replacement for everything except Ivermectin, right?
	Puzzling, patients report a rebound of COVID-19 systems after taking the antiviral Paxlovid.
	So you get COVID, you've already had the vaccines, supposedly, presumably, then you get the Paxlovid, and the symptoms go away, and the reports, this is the Boston Globe, is that people are having COVID come back, and come back again!
	So the Paxil did is not working.
	No, it is working.
	It's working as intended.
	We laugh, but it's so sick.
	It's so sick.
	It's sick.
	And that's your COVID update.
	Stay away from COVID, people.
	It's not good for your health.
	Seems like it.
	I want to get these clips out of the way about Title 42.
	You wouldn't notice it because you would when you were in Texas, but you definitely got to notice it in Holland.
	This is the title that Trump put in place to make it so it's easy to just...
	If someone steps across the border, you can ship them back to Nicaragua or wherever they come from.
	So I'm not quite sure...
	So the way it works is if you...
	I think it's if you don't have a clean bill of health or is it specifically for complete...
	You know, if you want to get your green card in the United States, you have to show you've had your vaccinations.
	Right.
	And I'm talking chicken pox, measles, or MMR in essence.
	You've got to have everything.
	You have to disclose if you have AIDS. All of this stuff.
	And so they probably added that.
	And I think that's what they were using.
	I don't know why you needed Title 42 because it was kind of already...
	Maybe that is what they're talking about, Title 42.
	No, it's got to be something else because Trump specifically put it in and now they're going to pull it back and they know there's going to be a huge run on the border.
	Right.
	Because it's another tool they cannot use to turn people back.
	Yeah, they decided not to use it.
	So here we go.
	Let's listen to these clips from NPR. NPR's Deepa Shivaram is here to
	explain all this.
	Hi, Deepa.
	Hey there.
	Hey there.
	How you doing?
	Hey there.
	You got it.
	What happened?
	Hi.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So let's hear the explanations part two of this clip.
	So Republicans have been staunchly opposed to lifting Title 42.
	What about Democrats?
	So in the past few days, we've seen two more Democrats express some apprehension about lifting Title 42 next month.
	That's Gary Peters, a Michigan senator who's chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and Chris Coons, a Delaware senator who's a close Biden ally.
	And they joined several other Democrats in Congress and even some congressional candidates running for office this year who say that they want more of a plan.
	They want the Biden administration to reconsider or release more details on how to handle the expected influx of migrants once Title 42 expires.
	And there's even some Democrats who have joined forces with Republicans in the last few weeks to write up a bill that would delay lifting Title 42 by at least 60 more days, essentially trying to buy some time here.
	And one of the Democrats who joined onto that bill is Mark Kelly, a senator from Arizona who's up for reelection this year.
	So the thing to keep in mind and the background of all of this is the concerns that Democrats have about the midterm elections.
	Yeah.
	It's all political.
	I've got this sub-clip called Title 42 Real Name, which is one second.
	I'd like you to play that.
	Okay, hold on a sec.
	NPR's Deepa Shiveram.
	Thanks.
	Oh, yes, this woman.
	I had a joke with her name because it sounds like they're saying something else.
	And they pronounce her name differently at the end, too.
	Okay, we can just skip that part.
	You could play the rest of this.
	That's pretty...
	Yeah, I'll play Title 42, number three.
	The White House keeps pointing to a plan that the Department of Homeland Security released at the beginning of the month, but they're not adding anything more beyond that.
	And that plan from DHS says that the department is increasing their capacity to process new arrivals at the border, and they're beefing up law enforcement presence as well.
	Here's what White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said this afternoon.
	We've proposed a plan.
	So that's a plan that is being implemented.
	In terms of any ideas to address immigration, including any delay of Title 42, that would require congressional action.
	And what they're also saying and being really adamant about is that Title 42 isn't technically an immigration policy.
	It's a public health directive.
	The administration says they're just following guidance set by the CDC. Okay, so the clock is ticking, right?
	There's about a month left until Title 42 is set to be lifted.
	So what should we be watching for?
	Yeah, so in the next couple of weeks, I think the thing to keep an eye out for is that DHS has said that they're continuing to expand their resources on the border.
	And then when it comes to a legislative fix as an option, Congress could act if they want to.
	But in the meantime, you can expect members of Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, to be asking more questions.
	This DHS plan has been out for weeks now, but it's clearly not enough for them.
	And in the next week, you can see DHS Secretary Mayorkas is testifying in front of the House Judiciary Committee, which is known for its pretty heated partisan confrontations.
	The top Republican on that committee is Jim Jordan of Ohio.
	He's already asking Mayorkas to come prepared for answers on the administration's plans once Title 42 expires.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It stands on its own.
	I got nothing to say.
	Yeah, I'll just follow that up with more illegal immigrants.
	Without papers, coming in means more stuff comes in, our favorite substance.
	The White House is pushing back against a new report that claims President Biden may delay lifting Title 42.
	That's a rule that allows border officials to turn back migrants because of the pandemic.
	The rule is set to expire next month.
	Meanwhile, 26 Republican governors are creating a so-called border task force.
	They're worried about a wave of new migrants and say the task force will focus on drugs and human trafficking.
	To share information, to bring law enforcement assets, to use intelligence in our fusions.
	You said information.
	You stumbled on information.
	Do you know information?
	To share information.
	to bring information, information, information, information, to share information, to bring law enforcement assets, to use intelligence in our fusion centers so that we can stop this flow of dangerous drugs like fentanyl, which is the number one cause to use intelligence in our fusion centers so that we can stop this flow of dangerous drugs like fentanyl, That's just not how it's supposed to be.
	Figures show the number of drug arrests at the southern border is down 33% compared to this time last year.
	Hello, hello, hello.
	Hello.
	ABC is going to follow this up and they're going to do a real big fentanyl crisis special.
	America is being poisoned with fentanyl and we don't even know it.
	Just heard my wife screaming.
	She told me they had just died.
	50 to 100 times more potent than morphine.
	Keep breathing, come on.
	It's poison.
	It's pure poison.
	A few grains of salt worth of fentanyl will kill you.
	Just my agency has seized enough to kill the entire country.
	ABC News Live presents Poisoned, America's Fentanyl Crisis.
	The powerful series, streaming free on ABC News Live.
	Well, at least they're making us aware of the situation.
	Yes, we notice these things in Texas.
	For sure, we notice them.
	Because this is where a lot of it's happening.
	There's people I know in Texas who got rear-ended by undocumented people and they don't have insurance or driving around.
	It's unbelievable.
	Well, it's happened to me.
	I think that's the person I know.
	Yeah, that's one person.
	Yeah, there's a lot of that.
	There's a lot of no insurance in Texas.
	Tina got someone backed up into her.
	Unclear of the woman's status, but she did have a driver's license.
	It was expired three years.
	Which, by the way, doesn't matter to the insurance company.
	They don't care.
	It happened in a parking lot, so there was no police report.
	Yeah, doesn't have to be.
	No, it doesn't have to be, but I heard the call when he said, well, look, you know, we can't prove that she did it.
	This is their insurance company.
	Can't prove that she did it.
	And I think it's her mom has the insurance.
	So, you know, it's like, yeah, but she, you know, no, no police report.
	There's no proof.
	So, you know, we have a witness we're trying to find.
	The whole thing is a mess.
	It's no good.
	Take photos, sure.
	All right.
	Well, on that happy news.
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
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	In the morning.
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	I want to note to people, we're getting a lot of people expecting us to read notes in the second half of these second segments under $200.
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	And then here's a couple of examples coming up.
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	You have it there.
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	It appears that I should have been knighted on show 142, but sadly wasn't, and again was passed over on show 1433.
	It wasn't until show 1436 that I was knighted.
	Does this qualify your humble producer for Black Knight status?
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	Where were you ten shows ago?
	You remember what?
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	Okay, we'll give you Black Knight status just as an ad hoc basis.
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	I wanted to mention that, looking at his note, he actually wants karma because he's playing the lottery, but okay.
	He's using his dad for that.
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	We've got hookers and blow, rent boys, chardonnay, cookies and vodka, warm beer and cold women, taquito and Taquitos and taquilla, Polish potato vodka, diet soda, and video games.
	We've got some geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla.
	We've got ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, bong hits and bourbon, breast milk and pablum, but we all know what you're here for.
	Mutton and meat at the table for you, good sir.
	Share that with all of your fellow knights and dames.
	And while you are licking your chops, go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Give us your information so we can get that signet ring out to you.
	A handsome knight ring.
	You can uniquely sign your correspondence with the wax we provide with it.
	And of course, the certificate of authenticity.
	And thank you for supporting the No Agenda show.
	We have one more requested karma from a baron.
	Which we also do like to help them out from time to time.
	What does our Baron here say?
	We lost our boy Jack suddenly yesterday morning while we were on our trip leaving Alamogordo to Albuquerque for the meetup today.
	This is their dog.
	We could use some dog karma for the unofficial no-agenda local 5-12 COVID-era mascot loss.
	My keeper Christine is especially devastated.
	She was the one who found him on the floorboard on our truck after we stopped at a gift shop before heading out.
	Give lots of hugs to Phoebe when you get back to the Texas Hill Country.
	Our time with these loving animals is fleeting.
	This is Baron Scott, I believe.
	And that's so sad.
	They rescue a lot of dogs.
	I've been to their house several times in Austin.
	It's a madhouse.
	And that's always sad.
	at so here's the asian dog karma for you karma so i wonder for how long sorry kevin mclaughlin is going to continue his uh attention getting uh stunt Oh, no.
	As long as there's boobs in America, he'll be in the pocket.
	No gender meetups.
	Smack up comedy.
	Meetups are off the hook as well.
	We love to highlight a couple of the reports we get from people.
	We have a big schedule.
	I'm only going to read a few of them.
	But first, we check out Flight 27 of the No Agenda Long Beach, the California meetup.
	Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at the Flight of the No Agenda meetup number 27.
	I'm going to pass the phone around, let people have some words to say.
	Thank you.
	Yo, this is Bofa, live from Zombieland.
	You're listening to the one and only Grumpy John and Moody Stoner Boyad.
	Keep up the great work, boys.
	Hey, this is Thomas the Engineer.
	It's a song.
	This is Dylan, dude named Ben.
	This is Eric, Adam, and John.
	Stay safe.
	In the morning, John and Adam, Jesse and Tricia, reporting from Long Beach, California.
	Sir Bernard Straw, all the way in from Nashville.
	Thanks, Leo Bravo, for hosting the meetup.
	In the morning.
	In the morning.
	And we move over to Anchorage, Alaska for their report.
	This is the tiny amygdalas from Anchorage, Alaska, all mating here at the Bear Paw.
	This is Sir Lane, and I'm passing off to...
	Hello, Lori.
	John Say!
	Hey, this is Clayton.
	John.
	Congratulations on your birthday and your anniversaries.
	And this is all of us in Anchorage.
	We're missing you.
	And this is Shane O'Hare.
	So I want to give a shout-out to Royce down in Hawaii.
	Aloha and Sizzletron on No Agenda Social.
	If I ever meet you in person, I think the universe will collapse on itself.
	In the morning, this is Aaron.
	John, turn down your speakers.
	And my first meet-up is Sir Weasel.
	In the morning!
	All right.
	Thank you, Anchorage.
	We could do some more originals, though, when you guys are doing your shout-outs.
	You know, like, turning on your speakers is kind of old.
	Yeah, it's kind of lame.
	And I need to turn down my headphones.
	I'm the one that's providing the feedback.
	Here's what's coming up meetup-wise.
	Let me see.
	If you hurry, you can make the Northeast Texas Piney Woods Meetup Do edition.
	That starts at 433 at Rotolo's Pizzeria in Longview.
	Monaco has a meet-up today.
	It's probably over by now.
	It was 3 o'clock Monaco time at the Monte Carlo Bay Bar.
	I hope they had a good time and will send a report.
	Monaco.
	April 27th.
	Wednesday, this really is a Meltdown meetup, 7 o'clock Central in Madison, Wisconsin.
	And then on show day, the Irish Bar Fun Times meetup, 6 o'clock at Patty Coyne's Irish Pub in Bellevue, Washington.
	And we might as well add to that on Thursday, the 28th, No Agenda Central Iowa meetup, 7 o'clock, POUR, P-O-U-R, Choices Neighborhood Bar in Grimes, Iowa.
	And the return of the Denver City Park meetup is also on Thursday, April 28th, 7 o'clock Mountain at the Denver City Park.
	And please go take a look at noagendameetups.com.
	We now have meetups all the way through July.
	And everywhere you can imagine, all over the United States, but all over the world.
	If you'd like to know more about them, if you'd like to attend one, go to noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't find one near you, it's real easy to start one.
	AgendaMeetups.com Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days You want to be where you want me Triggered or held the blame You want to be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Yowz - Alright, how about some ISOs?
	I actually did a lot of clips.
	But no ISOs?
	I got one.
	Ah yes, I see it here.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me pull it up.
	Whatever everyone is talking about, that's what we'll be talking about.
	Yeah, that's way too long.
	With music?
	No.
	Rejected.
	Rejected.
	First of all, yes.
	Yes, second.
	I got some.
	Here, listen to this.
	What do I have here?
	When did you first become aware that there were going to be large demonstrations?
	That's not it.
	Hey, is it mine's too long?
	No, it's the wrong clip.
	It's mislabeled.
	I'm sorry.
	Let's try this one.
	I've got feedback now.
	I'm just tripping out.
	Roll the tape.
	Nope, that's no good.
	Why is my headphone squealing?
	Ugh.
	This is not my day.
	Why am I shouting?
	Exactly.
	Let's try this one.
	I mean, how do they even do that?
	It's a little long, too.
	It's a little long.
	And this should actually be foreboding.
	Shut up, you're Hitler!
	No, it's no good.
	Well, then I have nothing.
	No, the one before it is usable, even though it's a little long.
	This one?
	I mean, how do they even do that?
	Why don't I just shorten it?
	Why don't I just take it?
	Yeah, just do that part.
	Hold on, I'll do that.
	I'll take it to this, and let's just check it.
	How do they even do that?
	Yeah, I think that's good.
	Perfect.
	Okay, that's good.
	Hey, this is a clip I've been wanting to play throughout the whole show as a part of the Great Reset.
	Actually, there's two things.
	There's one thing I've got to talk about and one clip I've got to play.
	Because we have not had the chance to talk about the food processing plants that seem to be either burning down because of plane crashes or some spontaneous combustion.
	It was highlighted in the newsletter with a bunch of headlines including two plane crashes, not one, but two into two different food processing plants.
	How does that work?
	Well, you know, I'm real big on the processors.
	Now, the beef processors, we only have three, I think four big ones that do everything.
	When it comes to these processing plants, I think there's 30,000 of these processing plants in the U.S. Some are much larger than others, so we do know that one of them delivers a lot of goods for Walmart.
	I'm just not sure how much it will impact the food supply.
	But what I do know is that the FBI is kind of insinuating that some of these may have been started by, of course, Russian cyber attacks, where they may actually be messing with some of the systems through the, what is that, what is the darn new toolkit, the Swiss Army knife that we talked about?
	Yeah, sure.
	Okay.
	I think the FBI is...
	Yeah, okay.
	I think it's okay.
	Okay.
	Okay, you got clips?
	Because I couldn't get any clips because the mainstream refuses to discuss it.
	No, I have no clips.
	No, I have no clips.
	But I do know that the FBI is warning that...
	Oh, let me see.
	I'd like to know why this is so out of the news.
	I mean, when you have the two airplane crashes, I find that very peculiar.
	The FBI Cyber Division published a notice warning about increased cyber attack threats on agricultural cooperatives.
	Why that specifically?
	Well, I'm just going to read.
	Ransomware actors may be more likely to attack agricultural cooperatives during critical planting and harvest seasons, disrupting operations causing financial loss and negatively impacting the food supply chain.
	They warn a significant disruption of grain production could impact the entire food chain since grain is not only consumed by humans but also used by animals for feed.
	In addition, a significant disruption of grain and corn production could impact commodities and trading stocks.
	So, there's some implication that this could have something to do with these processors?
	Possibly?
	Pipe Dream is the name of the malware that we've been talking about.
	Yeah, that's our latest bugaboo.
	It's the boogeyman.
	Well, the Pipe Dream malware is real.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	It's real.
	Can't blame it on everything.
	Well, but again, using Russia.
	So, I don't know.
	You know what?
	We just don't know, and the media is focused on dumb shit.
	So...
	No, we do...
	Our show probably knows more than anyone.
	But we don't know.
	But we don't know.
	For the coming Great Reset, what could trigger this?
	In the financial world, we often talk of things like the black swan.
	So COVID, by definition, was a black swan, the lockdowns, and we saw what happened with the financial markets.
	There was a roundtable, the International Monetary Fund, and Christine Lagarde was invited to join.
	Of course, she used to run the International Monetary Fund before she became the chief of the Federal Reserve of Europe, the European Central Bank, and she had an interesting take.
	President Lagarde, what about you?
	What should we be paying more attention to?
	I think of two things.
	One is what I would call the green swan.
	We talk about black swans, and I agree with Jay that we've had one thing after the other hitting us.
	And in the main, we've tried to respond as well as we could, and often in a very coordinated fashion, thanks to international institutions like the IMF. But the green swan is something that terrifies me.
	You know, when I think of what's happening in South Africa at the moment, the hundreds of people that are dying because of flood.
	And, you know, what's going to come next?
	Could it be Mother Nature that we are hurting so much that it retaliates against us?
	So that's one thing that is often on my mind.
	I think the next one is the madness of men.
	More than women, actually.
	Always.
	Madam MD. The madness of man.
	Okay, let's start with the beginning of this thing.
	The black swan is a phenomenon and it became a part of a book that was describing us where you didn't think something existed, then it existed.
	And it turned out to exist.
	The black swan exists as real.
	There's no such thing as a green swan anywhere.
	There's a drop and die.
	You know, somebody put an ink cartridge from an inkjet printer into a lake and then a swan went in there.
	Yeah, it's green.
	This is nuts.
	This woman should be banned from the show.
	No!
	No way!
	No, no, no, no, no.
	We're going to hear a lot from Fifi in the future.
	I will say that Forbes in 2021 published Sustainable Finance.
	Surviving the green swan.
	These people signal stuff all the time.
	All you got to do is just look and see what they're talking about.
	This is Forbes.
	We need a financial system that supports low-carbon, sustainable investments.
	Otherwise, the green swan could...
	See, it's another way of saying, if we don't all jump in and get all in on climate change, the green swan is going to get us, you know, floods and other horrible things.
	So, I'm fully expecting something horrible to happen.
	You know, they've never had floods in the history of mankind.
	No, but I'm fully expecting something horrible to happen.
	What else can you say with these people?
	Well, first of all, I saw you went away from that commentary about the virus that Russians are planting everywhere.
	Yeah?
	What about...
	Because I think it may be something to do with this story.
	Okay.
	The rich people up in the space station have been delayed.
	They can't get home.
	Okay.
	Which space station?
	Hold on a second.
	I didn't know this.
	Where are we?
	Here we go.
	The first all-private crew to visit the International Space Station is postponing what was to be tonight's return due to high winds at the splashdown site off of Florida's coast.
	NASA says they will undock tomorrow night instead with an expected arrival on Earth Monday.
	Ongoing weather delays have extended what was supposed to be an eight-day stay in space to more than two weeks.
	Oh, they did that wrong.
	They should have said weather delays and crew and staffing issues.
	They should have just done it like an airline report.
	Yes, we have weather delays, we have staffing issues, and of course, COVID. Just throw something in there.
	Nobody talks about this story at all, these rich guys up in the space station.
	They're really, the system seems to be very embarrassed by this.
	Who is up there?
	Bunch of nicks that you've never heard of.
	Oh, okay.
	How do we know they're rich?
	They paid $55 million to get there.
	They must be rich.
	It better be.
	Okay.
	Well, you know what they should be doing?
	Honey, what happened to our money?
	They should be donating to the show.
	We'll get them down.
	All right.
	Time to get out of here.
	Time to go back to Texas.
	Although we are going to Brooklyn for a few days.
	Why?
	To visit my stepdaughter.
	She lives there.
	You know, and Brooklyn is ground zero of wokeness, so I shall have a report.
	Yeah, I'll bet you will.
	I will.
	And another travel report, of course.
	Yeah, wear a mask.
	Coming up next, live, they've been waiting very patiently, The Battle of the Douchebags Part 3.
	It'll be Sir Bimrose, Carolyn Blaney, John Breaks Bad News, Lavish, and Sir Seatsitter.
	Now that is the definition of a hootenanny.
	Right there.
	End of show mix is Picasso and Rolando Gonzalez.
	And thank you very much for bearing with us today.
	Or even Viscount.
	Baron, Viscount, it's all good.
	Coming to you from...
	The place where IBM calls its HQ home, Armonk, New York.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVore.
	We return on Thursday with another deconstruction for you here on No Agenda.
	Until then, adios mofos!
	Such.
	Yeah.
	But he is the coolest dude in the room.
	I mean, the man wears bracelets that I've never seen before.
	Yeah.
	Well, for Mayor Adams, we know it's day three on the job, and he's sending a message that style is as important as substance, at least for now.
	Government affairs reporter Melissa Russo has been out and about with Adams as he's showing off what he calls his swagger.
	He joins us in the newsroom with more.
	Hey, Melissa.
	Hey, Natalie.
	Eric Adams is not only trying to project strength in his first week on the job, he's talking about the fact that he's trying to project strength.
	as the new mayor works to help voters form a strong first impression.
	When a mayor has swagger, the city has swagger.
	When describing his governing style, Mayor Eric Adams today used the word swagger about a dozen times.
	This is a city of swagger.
	And without mentioning his predecessor by name, he said Bill de Blasio didn't have it.
	And the leadership should have that swagger.
	That's what has been missing in the city.
	All we did was wallow in coffee.
	But is all that swagger swaying workers?
	He's an ex-cop.
	That's what they do.
	So, it's all talk right now.
	I love it because I love police.
	Well, he's not de Blasio, so that's all I'm happy about.
	With swagger has like a confidence to it, that's a good way to start.
	In recent days, Adams has shown he's big on bravado, quick to dismiss those who disagree with him, including the incoming city council.
	I'm going to ignore them.
	If they like it or not, I'm the mayor.
	Adams takes every opportunity to show who's in charge.
	This morning, he had this moment with the media.
	clearly some of what resonated with voters in these tough times was adams's confidence optimism maybe even swagger You know, if I were him, I wouldn't say that word.
	I would show this swagger more.
	We need a mayor of swagger.
	We need a councilwoman of swagger.
	We need an assemblywoman of swagger.
	It's a very fine line between strength and arrogance, but so far, I think he's walking it the right way.
	At the end of the day, you know, it's going to come down to results.
	It doesn't matter what he's saying, it matters what he does.
	We're going to do this, man.
	And usually the honeymoon period for mayors doesn't really last very long.
	Adams says that New Yorkers can expect clear messaging from him.
	For instance, today emphasizing he has zero intention of shutting schools because of the latest COVID variant.
	Ukraine has been the center of many of the biggest and most damaging lies.
	You have the Open Society Foundation and all the related organizations.
	They call them NGOs and charities, right?
	But there's nothing charitable about these people.
	They're extremely radical.
	They have a very nefarious agenda.
	They launder money through their 501CC status, sharing it all with each other.
	And even worse than that, they figured out a way to rob us blind.
	They use our tax dollars through USAID and they distribute that in places like Ukraine and all over the world.
	Not only are they stealing from us and funding their agenda with our tax dollars, laundering money through the NGOs and the oligarchs, what they're also doing is running policy through the US embassies.
	I can just tell you that that's what you call the theater of the absolute ridiculous.
	What I don't want is I don't want to be led blindly into a war that comes right to our doors, to our families.
	We're not focused on the things that we should be focused on.
	Those people who want to read the New York Times and read the Washington Post and believe the nonsense, I don't have time for that anymore.
	It's okay for the United States to arm, fund, support, and equip Nazis in the Ukraine, but it's not okay to vote for Donald Trump.

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