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	Oh, I'm so excited!
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 24th, 2021.
	This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media assassination episode 1358.
	This is No Agenda.
	And broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where, well, I figured I wasn't going to get the lunch with John McAfee anyway.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Hey, man, don't you just hate that?
	I just hate it.
	Some people do anything to get out of a dinner.
	This is a lunch.
	No, it was a dinner.
	Yeah, it probably was a dinner because I bought him the dinner the first time.
	You know how I know it was a dinner?
	Because we have the end of show mix from the interview Nick the Rat did with McAfee where he brought this up.
	Yes, he did.
	Yeah, they got cussed out.
	So, what do you think?
	Well, here's the report from NPR. John McAfee dead.
	We'll talk about it after this.
	Hold on a second.
	Okay, report.
	Software pioneer John McAfee has been found dead at 75 in a prison cell in Spain.
	That's according to his lawyer.
	As NPR's Bobby Allen reports, McAfee's death was reported just hours after a Spanish court approved his extradition to the U.S. on tax evasion charges.
	John McAfee was best known for the antivirus software he founded bearing his name, but in recent years he's been in legal hot water.
	Since last October, he's been in a Spanish prison awaiting extradition to the U.S. on tax evasion charges.
	The Securities and Exchange Commission has also accused him of making millions off a pump-and-dump scheme using cryptocurrency.
	Not long after a Spanish court approved his transfer to the U.S. to stand trial on those charges, he was found dead.
	His lawyer, Nishe Sanen, says McAfee will always be remembered as a fighter, saying the U.S. government, quote, tried to erase him, but they failed.
	Authorities are still investigating the cause of death.
	So the weird part was that the extradition order had just been signed.
	That's what was weird.
	Well, why was that weird?
	Well, you'd think that if you're being, well, you'd think if you're being extradited, then either you're happy, well, I guess, why would he want to kill himself over being extradited?
	Well, he didn't want to spend the rest of his life in an American prison, I guess.
	Look, Spain is better?
	Well, if he was, what was he arrested for in Spain?
	I have no idea.
	I think it was because of an American charge.
	Oh, that's possible.
	Yeah, well, it's certainly for SEC issues.
	It was weird because he was kind of on my radar like a week ago, and I'm actually looking for it.
	I thought it was from him.
	I remember seeing a tweet of something to the effect of, I'm not doing so well, I'm a bit down today.
	Which, of course, I can't find anymore.
	And it was just one of those peripheral things.
	And I wasn't quite sure if I had read that properly or not.
	Jenny Jardin was tweeting about him a week ago as well.
	What did she say?
	She was saying he knows more.
	She thinks that he, and this is before he killed himself, that he knows something about the FBI or the FBI did something.
	He knows something about the, or knew something about the FBI. But, you know, the thing that's always weird is when someone says, hey, I'm not going to get, I'm not going to suicide myself.
	And he got this tattoo whacked to commemorate that he was not going to suicide himself.
	And then, of course, it happens.
	And then you got to wonder, is Jenny Jardin posted another tweet?
	She said, on the other hand, there's also lots of people who say these things like, I'll never kill myself.
	And they actually are planning to do it all along.
	This is the problem with making that commentary.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, I don't know.
	What have we lost?
	Let's put it that way.
	Seriously.
	I mean, I feel...
	A lot of personality.
	Yeah, exactly.
	A colorful person.
	Yeah, I feel we lost color, you know?
	He's one of those people, you just want to have him around.
	They provide color.
	Yeah, they provide color and color commentary, both.
	Yeah, like comic strip blogger, in a way.
	He's the guy who invented...
	If it wasn't for McAfee, we have to remember this part.
	He's always been a promoter.
	He's the one who popularized and I don't think I can get much argument from anyone who actually followed this when it happened.
	He's the one who popularized viruses to the point where it made people want to develop them.
	I always suspected him of being behind a few, quite honestly.
	Like, what a great business.
	There's a lot of people that feel that he was behind a few of them, but he had this newsletter about viruses and he promoted them and he called all the computer journalists up and that's how I ran into him first.
	I was talking to him on the phone quite a bit because he's going, oh, this is going to be the worst thing that's ever happened.
	And then he promoted the idea of viruses and to the point where a lot of them I mean, in the early days, even Peter Norton said there's no such thing.
	There's no way.
	This is bull crap.
	Really?
	Next thing you know, the market developed and he had the solution.
	Wow.
	Peter Norton said that, huh?
	I believe so, yeah.
	Because he had Norton Utilities, but then later he added antivirus later.
	Oh, interesting.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	I'll miss him.
	Although he got a little tedious at the end there.
	Oh, he's always tedious.
	I like that documentary where it turns out he was into poop sex.
	He was what?
	He was into poop sex.
	Don't you remember there was that whole documentary about him?
	I don't remember that.
	Now you just gross me out.
	Sorry, I'm not speaking ill of the dead.
	He probably would have thought that very funny.
	Anyway, Love and Lit.
	Love and Lit, John McAfee.
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	Will we ever know?
	Should we do a quick, quick trip around the horn on some COVID stuff?
	It's not a lot, obviously, but some stuff we need to look out for.
	Yeah, I only have two clips, and my two clips are on the Delta variant.
	Yes, Delta variant.
	That's what I was going to start with.
	Not the Delta variant.
	Oh.
	The Delta variant variant.
	Oh, the Delta Plus.
	Delta Plus.
	India confirmed.
	That's what it is.
	It sounds like some new service from Delta Airlines.
	Yeah, no, here it is.
	India's health ministry describes Delta Plus, a new mutation of the Delta coronavirus variant, as a variant of concern.
	Yeah, it does sound like first class.
	It's like first class.
	Delta plus.
	And you get a real glass instead of a plastic one.
	India confirmed about 50,000 new coronavirus infections today.
	That is a fraction of what it was seeing at its peak last month.
	So it looks like the world's biggest and deadliest COVID-19 wave may now be easing.
	Whoa.
	But there is something new that could threaten that progress in India, as NPR's Lauren Frayer reports.
	All right, Lauren, take it away.
	We're cutting across to breaking news that's coming in.
	Worrying news of the Delta Plus variant being detected now.
	A mutated new form of the coronavirus is Delta variant, first discovered in India.
	They're calling it Delta Plus.
	Viruses mutate all the time, and not all variants are worrying.
	But the Indian government has classified this one as a variant of concern.
	Its genetic sequence suggests it may be even more contagious than the original Delta variant.
	And it shows an ability to outwit some of the body's immune response.
	Dr.
	Vinita Bal is an immunologist at the Indian Institute of Science, Education and Research in Pune.
	The fear in everybody's mind is that now there is a further mutation and it might again take us towards another wave.
	But it's too soon to know that process.
	I like how she says that, that lady.
	She says, the fear is in everybody's minds.
	That's right.
	Instead of saying the danger is etc., etc., she said the fear is now in everybody's minds.
	Well, yes, mission accomplished.
	Nailed it.
	Delta Plus.
	Ha ha!
	Seriously, they do need a bit of marketing help over there.
	You got part two of that clip, I think.
	India has ramped up sequencing of coronavirus samples.
	It caught this variant relatively early.
	Only about 40 cases have been detected in India so far.
	But it's also turned up in nine other countries, including the United States.
	So it's unclear where it originated.
	Dr.
	Sunila Garg is a virologist and advisor to the Indian Council of Medical Research, which is like India's CDC. Garg says scientists are studying how effective vaccines will be against this variant.
	But only about 4% of Indians are fully vaccinated anyway.
	So Garg says...
	We have to again go back to our basics, wearing off masks and testing, treating and tracking.
	She says even as lockdowns are lifted across India, people cannot let their guard down.
	The Indian government has advised three states in particular where Delta Plus has been detected to increase testing, contact tracing and vaccinations.
	Yeah, so what they're really missing there is a death count, which is not compatible with the Delta variant, and certainly not with the Delta Plus.
	Then they speak of...
	Sorry?
	Yeah, I agree.
	There's no death count, but...
	If you just listen to the reports, it sounds like all hell is breaking loose.
	We had a couple of local reports I couldn't catch because they were on the regular radio and I just was driving.
	And they brought somebody on saying, oh, this Delta variant is so deadly.
	Unfortunately, here's the difference between the regular COVID and the Delta variant, she says.
	And she goes on with, the COVID, you'd have a family family.
	Like three people in a four-member family would get COVID and one wouldn't.
	With the Delta variant, the whole family gets wiped out.
	I can't believe you didn't pull over immediately and call the station and get a clip.
	I'm telling you.
	She said the whole family gets wiped out.
	Nice.
	Where's the death count here?
	Nice.
	Well, we have a couple other local reports to the United States.
	This is NPR. So we've had these waves and surges over the past year.
	Could the Delta variant cause another surge?
	Surge!
	You know, Noel, it very well might.
	A new set of projections are just out from a group called the COVID-19 Scenario Modeling Hub.
	It's helping me.
	I didn't even bother to look these a-holes up.
	The COVID-19 Modeling Hub, you just know it's something that's going to irritate me.
	It's called the COVID-19 Scenario Modeling Hub.
	It's helping the CDC figure out where the pandemic might be going.
	And it concludes that a highly contagious variant like Delta could trigger yet another wave as soon as sometime in July, continuing at least into November.
	Justin Lessler is an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins who's been helping coordinate the Modeling Hub.
	For the most part, it's a moderate resurgence.
	I think I characterize it as sort of a continuation of the doldrums.
	We're not having massive epidemics at a national level, but we have this kind of continuation of the virus just sticking around and keeping us on our toes.
	I'll make this prediction for you.
	The Delta variant runs rampant through southern Republican states.
	I just guarantee that's coming next.
	It has to be.
	This is ABC, and we have to be careful.
	Winter is coming.
	The Delta variant giving the race to vaccinate new urgency.
	Urgency.
	Experts warn if the country doesn't boost vaccinations, we could face a tough winter all over.
	Again.
	We don't have enough population immunity to stop the spread of this virus.
	And we seem to have hit a wall.
	So when the winter hits, you're going to see more suffering and more hospitalization and more death.
	And because children are particularly vulnerable, because many haven't been vaccinated, I think they will likely suffer greatly.
	Yeah, greatly they will suffer.
	And a reminder that during these summer months around July in the United States, we get all of the new recruits from medical school.
	They come in.
	Traditionally, more people die.
	Just because they're new at their job.
	Do you remember that?
	We had this whole conversation last year.
	We had a nurse or somebody wrote us a long, detailed explanation for this blip that takes place once a year.
	So we'll see that.
	We can already be prepared for it.
	Everything will be assigned to COVID. Hey, how come McAfee didn't get assigned as a COVID death?
	They fucked up.
	You heard it's going to be a tough winter.
	Tough winter or rough winter?
	It could be the Delta.
	You can never exclude that there will be some new disease, some new horror that we simply haven't budgeted for or accounted for.
	I love this.
	Any politician who says, hey, you know, it's going to be okay, but there could be a new horror that we haven't budgeted for.
	What?
	You can never exclude that there'll be some new disease, some new horror that we simply haven't budgeted for or accounted for.
	Budgeted.
	Budgeted.
	That is the greatest.
	That's Boris.
	It's like a new horror that we haven't budgeted for.
	What a classic upper-class lame-brain thing for a Brit to say.
	Budgeted for or accounted for, but looking at where we are, looking at the efficacy of the vaccines against all variants that we can currently see, so Alpha, Delta, the lot of them, Kappa...
	Kappa?
	What is he thinking of?
	What the hell's Kappa?
	Well, I think he's thinking of Kappa Phi or something, Kappa, whatever.
	Well, you know, he's going to Alpha.
	He's thinking of all the Greek letters of the alphabet, and he's just throwing them out there.
	Kappa's got to be one of them.
	Ipsilon, throw something out there.
	Is it Alpha?
	Ipsilon, Omega.
	What a boob!
	I think it's looking good for July the 19th to be that terminus point.
	I think what the scientists are saying is that things like flu will come back this winter.
	We may have a rough winter for all sorts of reasons.
	Rough winter.
	Obviously there are big pressures on the NHS. All the more reason to reduce the number of COVID cases now, give the NHS the breathing space it needs to get on with dealing with all those other pressures, and we're certainly going to be putting in the investment to make sure that they can.
	Okay, so a rough winter, he says.
	Could be anything.
	Maybe something we didn't budget for, so just so you know.
	In one month, hopefully the Delta variant and the plus will not be in Tokyo as we have the Olympics cranking up and they're already taking precautionary measures.
	And with just about one month to go before the start of Tokyo's Olympic Games, this big number catching our eye, the International Olympic Committee and other parties holding live local spectators to 50% capacity at all venues, a maximum of 10,000 people.
	And here's this, wow, no cheering is allowed.
	Because of continuing coronavirus.
	What?
	I could not believe when I heard that.
	No cheering allowed at the Tokyo Olympics.
	No cheering allowed?
	Yes.
	You get to snap your fingers?
	What is this?
	Jazz hands.
	The socialists have won.
	Yes, I think that you're...
	And good night, everybody.
	Thank you very much.
	It's been fun doing the show.
	The socialists have won.
	How about that, huh?
	Oh, man.
	This is a comedy act.
	This is funnier by the minute.
	Yeah.
	Who needs McAfee when you got the whole Japanese government?
	Cheering aloud.
	Now, the Delta variant and all the scary stuff, you know, that works to a degree.
	But if you really want to scare the parents into vaccinating children, because that's what most of this is about, I think, and preparing us for the...
	Get rid of the excess product.
	Yeah, we hate sending it to Africa.
	No, inventory.
	Inventory.
	Can't be doing that.
	Here is, speaking of inventory, here is the guy who knows exactly what the inventory is of Pfizer.
	He is on the board of Pfizer.
	Former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb on CBS Face the Nation.
	There was a U.K. study about brain tissue.
	What did that say this week?
	Right.
	So the U.K. does very good prospective studies of people.
	They have a biobank where they follow people over time and they take blood samples and do MRIs.
	And they basically do that over many years to be able to go back and look and say, were there things that we could have seen in an MRI?
	Say again?
	I know what he's going to talk about, but they follow him for many, many years.
	They do.
	They'll follow somebody.
	We do it here once in a while.
	I actually was part of a study like that.
	I was followed for like a decade.
	And But the disease hasn't been around but a year, and they're talking about these long-term studies.
	This is a bogus interview.
	Correct.
	CBS, hello.
	CIA Broadcasting Systems.
	And they basically do that over many years to be able to go back and look and say, were there things that we could have seen in an MRI or a blood test that could have predicted an outcome that someone developed five or ten years later?
	They're a lot like our Framingham Heart Study.
	So they went back to that biobank and they looked at people who had had MRI scans of their brains in the past three years.
	And they looked at how many developed COVID.
	And about 300 people, a little over 300 people developed COVID.
	And when they compared those individuals who developed COVID against matched controls, people who were similar who didn't develop COVID, they saw a pretty persistent decline in certain brain tissue matter.
	Certain areas of their brain showed a decline in actual tissue, a shrinkage of parts of their brain.
	It's not clear how the virus caused that.
	It's not clear if the symptoms of the virus could have caused it or it was a direct effect on the brain.
	But it's very concerning because it does suggest that the virus could be having a direct effect on certain portions of the brain.
	And the parts of the brain that showed the shrinkage actually are responsible for things like taste and smell and memory.
	The kinds of conditions, the kinds of complaints that we see COVID patients having after their recovery, they're still complaining about difficulty with smell or taste or problems with memory.
	Yeah, I mean, I've heard this before, and now he's just cavalierly throwing it out.
	This is nonsense.
	I mean, the fact that zinc is a well-known factor in taste and smell, and that's what seems to be the determining factor.
	Oh, interesting.
	So what do you mean?
	The lack of zinc, or too much zinc?
	No, lack of zinc.
	Huh.
	Oh, really?
	I didn't know this.
	Well, that's why, yeah, that's why zinc was one of the protocols.
	And so you take your zinc and you never lose your taste or smell.
	Oh, that's good to know.
	This idea is, again, you're right, it's just a fright in the public, but it doesn't actually make any sense.
	Although it's possible that if you factor in fear...
	Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
	And its effect on the brain, especially long term.
	Years worth of just scaring the crap.
	I go to this...
	So I have around this area, there's a...
	We call her the bento box lady.
	I want to meet her already.
	A Korean woman who runs a Japanese sushi-to-go place where the sushi is actually dynamite.
	Mm-hmm.
	And they do a really good business.
	And you see a lot of high school kids in there.
	I feel pretty good about the fact that everyone's supporting this place.
	And they went through the COVID thing pretty easily because it's to go.
	So I go in there to get some sushi for a dinner.
	And some guy comes in.
	He's got to be in his 20s.
	Mm-hmm.
	And he's covered head to toe with like a hoodie and he's got the mask that's almost touching his eyes.
	You know that big giant mask?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And he's got the blue gloves on.
	And now did you have a mask on at this point?
	Yeah, I did have a mask on.
	But it was like, it said wear a mask on the outside.
	Yeah, I gotcha.
	Some people were in there without a mask.
	Nobody cares.
	I mean, it's gotten to the point now around here where they're not wearing masks.
	I knew that was going to happen, yeah.
	So, but this guy comes in all masked up with the blue gloves.
	And then when he leaves, because I'm standing kind of there and is not in his way, he can get by me rather easily.
	But he crunches his shoulders together towards his chin, you know, the way you do to get your, to shrink yourself.
	You know, you just kind of like crunch.
	Yeah, to make yourself small and unnoticeable.
	Yeah.
	So he can get by me.
	Past your broad shoulders.
	You know, I'm just standing there.
	And I'm thinking, wow, this guy, and I'm checking, check the calendar, dude.
	Check the calendar.
	He has to have been this way the whole time.
	Yeah.
	It's sad.
	It's really sad.
	So if that doesn't affect your brain, I don't know what does.
	Good point.
	And although I don't know what they're actually measuring when it comes to brain shrinkage.
	Of course, there's no real study.
	This is just thrown out there to scare us, I think.
	Yeah, totally.
	Well, the real frightening news is from the adverse events...
	As recorded in the VAERS, not just in VAERS, but also the EU database, that's getting pretty interesting.
	The EU database has 15,472 dead from the vaccine.
	1.5 million injured, of which 50% serious.
	And there's a link in the show notes, you can see it.
	Now, I'm sure it's just...
	What vaccines are they?
	Are they all the vaccines, or which ones mostly?
	I think it's Johnson& Johnson, AstraZeneca is what they mainly have, EU. I don't think they have Pfizer, Moderna.
	I'm not sure.
	They have AstraZeneca.
	But Dr.
	P, we were talking earlier about the Gottliebs, they really don't have any studies.
	They certainly don't have years and years of studies.
	But as it turns out, a lot of the mandatory protocols that you should have for any study have not even been implemented at all.
	And this is Dr.
	Peter McCullough.
	With this program, there is no critical event committee.
	There is no Data Safety Monitoring Board and there's no Human Ethics Committee.
	Those structures are mandatory for all large clinical investigations.
	And so the word that's really used for what's going on is malfeasance.
	There's wrongdoing by those in position of authority.
	And without any safety...
	Measures in place.
	You can see what's going on.
	We're administering the largest application of a biological product with the greatest amount of morbidity and mortality in the history of our country.
	We are at over 5,000 deaths, as you know.
	I think 15,000 hospitalizations.
	In the EU, it's over 10,000 deaths.
	We are working with Center for Medicaid, Medicaid Services, CMS data, and we have a pretty good lead that the real number is tenfold.
	It's tenfold.
	We knew from data from Harvard in 2016 that the Vaccine Reverse Event Reporting System only reports about 10% of what's really going on.
	So we had to get another data source.
	And we have inside people.
	We have now a whistleblower inside the CMS. And we have two whistleblowers within the CDC. And those are being developed right now in order to get this out.
	So we're looking at 10x.
	We think we have 50,000 dead Americans.
	50,000.
	So we actually have more deaths due to the vaccine per day than certainly the viral illness.
	Right on schedule.
	How about that?
	And we have whistleblowers.
	We need some whistleblowers.
	When you're working in a bureaucracy like this, you get fed up when you're part of a scam and you know it's hurting people.
	And now we start to move towards treatments, which obviously were always available, but under penalty of fines and losing your license, you could not even discuss any of these treatments.
	But now we're moving towards it.
	This is Good Morning America.
	Well, listen, we always want to hit the encouraging news.
	And while our vaccination rates are kind of plateauing, that's about prevention.
	This pill under development is about treatment.
	So here's what you need to know about this.
	This would be an antiviral medication.
	It's currently under research and development.
	This ideally would be something that if someone tests positive, would be given immediately, early on, before they develop symptoms, as an outpatient.
	Potentially, you guys...
	We could see this available by the end of this fall, which would be great.
	One example, one trial candidate that is in late-stage clinical trials right now, it's called AT527. I'm sure it will be given another name if it does well.
	It's already effective against another virus, hepatitis C, so they are testing it to see if it works in clinical trials against coronavirus.
	So, yeah, hepatitis C, oh, that's okay, we can try that for something else, but ivermectin, no.
	Oh, wait a minute!
	Holy moly, Reuters reports.
	Oxford University explores anti-parasitic drug ivermectinous COVID-19 treatment came out yesterday.
	Well, well.
	The University of Oxford said Wednesday it was testing anti-parasitic drug ivermectin as a possible treatment as part of a British government-backed study that aims to aid recoveries in non-hospital settings.
	Ivermectin resulted in a reduction of virus replication in laboratory studies, the university said, adding that a small pilot showed giving the drug early could reduce viral load and the duration of symptoms in some patients with mild COVID-19.
	Oh, hello!
	Ugh...
	Well, this was in the newsletter.
	Yes.
	And I mocked it.
	Of course!
	Because there's a bunch of studies of it.
	Ivermectin has a ton of studies that have shown it's very good.
	It was all shot down because of that.
	And we need to get to the bottom of that one day someone does.
	That bogus paper that...
	What's the big publication?
	It was on The Lancet?
	The Lancet, yeah.
	That was made by some company that appeared out of nowhere.
	The CEO and the CFO worked for some modeling agency.
	And it took weeks and weeks for The Lancet to post a correction about that.
	So, yeah, well, that's your propaganda.
	Let's do a little intermezzo.
	Older people, 70 years of age and older, we know they are just so vulnerable to getting ill and dying from this vaccine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I love it.
	I love it when that happens.
	Did you hear it?
	I didn't get the gist of it.
	Oh, you didn't get it?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I did hear it, but I could barely hear it.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, listen again.
	Older people, 70 years of age and older, we know they are just so vulnerable to getting ill and dying from this vaccine.
	Oh!
	Getting ill and dying from this vaccine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But wait, but wait, but wait, there's more!
	You know, the funny thing is, this is like, you do the same thing when I find one of these, even though I don't find as many as you do.
	It's just you don't hear it the first time.
	Oh no, it passes right by and many people miss it but are no agenda producers now.
	They've got trained ears and I'm sure you saw this one.
	So can I say to the Australian community that you should have faith in the vaccines?
	That you should remember that the consequences of the vaccines are worse than any of the potential side effects?
	Yes, the Greatest Hits album is coming soon, everybody.
	I promise you.
	I promise you.
	All right, two more.
	That'll do it for the COVIDs, I think.
	Oh, of course, I should mention that just in time, as Ivermectin is now starting to be recognized as something that might work, we get an emergency broadcast from Joe Rogan yesterday, who had Dr.
	Corey and Brett Weinstein on, and they really went through everything.
	And it was very interesting to see that this was an emergency broadcast.
	You know?
	I'm thinking that just like it was okay, you know, Jon Stewart came in and said, hey, bad versus lab, it's very possible, depending on the pushback that he does or does not get, we'll see today, that Joe Rogan was nudged into doing this emergency episode to soften the blow of ivermectin actually being something that is usable.
	Maybe.
	I don't know him to do any emergency broadcasts for any other reason.
	That's a first, I think.
	Anyway, your No Agenda show was talking about this a year ago.
	Well, he did the emergency apology for something, if you remember that.
	Well, there you go.
	Whenever it's an emergency message, it comes from corporate.
	I have no idea.
	I have no idea, obviously.
	I did ping him.
	I said, hey man, it's good.
	He does a show a day.
	It was an emergency.
	He does a show every day.
	What do you have to do?
	Do you have to do an extra show later?
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	It makes no sense to me.
	Well, thank goodness this message will now reach a broader audience.
	That is good.
	And then, of course, where this all...
	Wait, yeah, after the horse left the barn, I mean, this is so late in the game, who cares?
	Even the Oxford thing's a joke.
	That's why people love listening to the Noah Jenner show.
	We had this a year ago.
	A year ago.
	A year ago.
	Well, actually, we had the hydroxychloroquine a year ago.
	Yeah, we had that, too.
	Ivermectin came in when that Goa situation occurred, and we didn't get a sample pack, but we got pictures of it.
	Hydroxychloroquine will get its day in court, too.
	Let me watch.
	It'll all happen.
	There's actually more studies showing its effect in this than there is ivermectin at the moment.
	So this obviously leads down to one road for the pharmaceutical industry.
	And if you want to know what's going on with pharma, especially with Pfizer and the vaccines, you just call up the member of the board, Scott Gottlieb on CNBC. Happy to talk to you about what's coming.
	What's the latest research just in terms of when people are going to need these booster shots that have been so talked about?
	Do you feel safe if you've had this less than a year ago?
	Your vaccine?
	Yeah, look, I think you could feel safe through the summer.
	And the effectiveness of the vaccine also correlates with the prevalence of the virus.
	So how effective the vaccine is also correlates with how likely you are to come into contact with the virus.
	And the combination of the protective immunity that people have through vaccination, even if it's declining over time, combined with the fact that prevalence is very low, I think people can feel reasonably assured through the summer.
	I think as we get into the fall, we're going to have to look at giving especially the vulnerable population boosters.
	I think there will be some continued discussion around Yeah, we didn't get to kill them off the first time.
	I think this vulnerable population is going to need it.
	We've got another round of...
	We've got to load up.
	We've got to use something to get rid of these old farts.
	You know, they're a huge burden on the public, these old people.
	And so we've done everything we can.
	We'd rather...
	Throwing infected people into the old folks' home and making them take shots over 80.
	We wiped out a bunch of them up there in Scotland.
	We took care of a big group.
	I think we took care of like half the population of one of these old folks.
	I'm telling you, these guys, you know, they're a big burden on the economy.
	They're useless eaters is the way we see it.
	And so we're going to get rid of them as best we can.
	So the booster shot, I think, is going to be one way of doing that.
	Ladies and gentlemen, the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group is available for your elitist moves.
	Just give us a call here at Dvorak.org.
	People can feel reasonably assured through the summer.
	I think as we get into the fall, we're going to have to look at giving especially the vulnerable population boosters.
	I think there will be some continued discussion around that, particularly once we get past this July 4th deadline that the administration said.
	I think that you're going to see more active discussion around boosters in the fall, particularly for the elderly population.
	And the other point here is that the variants that we're seeing now, The 6.7 variant in particular, where we're seeing some resurgence in the United Kingdom.
	That further suggests that the boosters may be important, because what we're seeing is that people who've had one dose of vaccine aren't really protected against that variant.
	But once you get two doses, you have a pretty reasonable degree of protection against that variant.
	So it suggests that the declining effectiveness of vaccines may be more of an issue for some of these variants.
	And that may be another reason why we lean in the direction of boosters, particularly for the older population.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're right, man.
	They're coming for Granny again.
	Empty seat at the table.
	Empty chair.
	Another empty chair.
	We've got two empty chairs coming.
	Yeah, they're coming.
	And then the final one is from Good Morning America, where we'll just lay some more booster prop on you.
	Do we have any indication on how long vaccine immunity will continue to last?
	Do the trial participants still have immunity?
	Answer to the first part of the question is we are following it.
	We think, based on some published data, it might be around 12 months.
	But again, we're putting that together.
	We're extrapolating what's known from the clinical trial because those participants are still being followed.
	Remember, they started to be enrolled last July and August, so we're not yet at the 12-month mark for those clinical trial participants, but also in people who were naturally infected with COVID-19.
	So, remember, Those people who were vaccinated early on, healthcare workers like myself, whenever you were vaccinated, remember that it's not permanent immunity.
	We probably are going to need a booster.
	And when we get that word, we can expect kind of another rush to get that booster vaccinated.
	But we're following it.
	I love how she says it's not permanent immunity.
	We don't know that, do we?
	No, they don't know anything.
	But she says it.
	As you recall, at least two or three shows ago, we had some guy coming on saying the shot is better than natural immunity.
	Yeah, that's my favorite.
	Well, if it's better than natural immunity, how come it wears off in a year?
	My God, I had a similar thing that you spoke about earlier.
	I was in the car.
	I had MSNBC on.
	And there's no way I could ever find this clip online.
	And it's, what's her face?
	Nicole Wallace.
	And some doctor says, well, as we all know, Natural immunity is better than the vaccine immunity.
	And it was like, no, stop!
	No, I have to stop you there!
	I have to stop you there!
	That is factually not true!
	I'm sorry, we're out of time!
	It's like, beautiful moment.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Cut the guy right off.
	So he's the expert.
	She's a stupid meat puppet reading from this prompter, and she's required to do this, apparently, as part of her job.
	If someone could find that, I would be very, very happy.
	It was just beautiful.
	Wow.
	That didn't surprise me.
	No.
	These people are out of control.
	Well, people also tuning out.
	That's why I'm happy Joe did that ivermectin episode.
	People will believe Joe Rogan before they believe these ditzes, at least starting to be that way.
	No, I think that's been true for a while.
	Meanwhile, Nair, a peep about the Yantian port, or very little news about it, which came back online yesterday.
	However...
	After bribes were paid.
	After bribes were paid, the estimate is 80 days for it to normalize.
	8-0.
	That's almost three months.
	How about that?
	Explain that to me.
	Explain that to me.
	Well, I can.
	It was, what, shut down for a week?
	Now it's 80 days?
	How does that work?
	It's just from the article, from Container-News.
	You'd think that they would be the experts.
	Here we go.
	The Yantian's terminal return to normal operations will not instantly normalize the situation in the region, according to the container shipping analyst Lars Jensen, who said there is considerable queue of vessels waiting to be serviced, and the queue can be said to be artificially short, with the many port omissions both executed and still planned into July from the carriers.
	Whatever that means.
	Jensen, CEO of Container Consultancy for Spucci Maritime, who has previously predicted that Yonatan will need more than 80 days to clear 700,000 plus TEU queuing outside its keys.
	A TEU, I think, is the container unit.
	So it's just the backlog.
	Well, here, let's play this.
	Just in time stuff.
	This backlog is showing up everywhere, coincidentally.
	Yeah, no coincidence.
	This is the part one of it, too.
	I couldn't clip the second half.
	These people on NPR are so dreadful, but this is the Whidbey Island BS reported on NPR. That sounds lovely.
	It's like a visitor's brochure.
	These days, though, Greg, from what I understand, things are not so serene there.
	Residents have been complaining about this ruckus created by these humongous container ships that are anchored off the shore of the island.
	Scott Chaplin is the mayor of a town called Langley.
	Stop the clip for a second.
	So there's a...
	Actually, I'm looking at the San Francisco Bay, which I can see from here.
	And it is...
	There's no container ships out there.
	There's supposedly a few south of Oakland, towards San Jose.
	Is Los Angeles the big port, though?
	Isn't L.A. the port?
	Long Beach.
	Long Beach, yeah.
	But Oakland's the big port out here.
	And so...
	I've driven across the bridge recently.
	You know, there are some ships, but at Anchorage there's a bunch of spots.
	It's not more than I've seen before.
	She makes this point that outside of Whidbey Island, where there's a, you know, to get into the, I guess, Seattle or wherever, These container ships are sitting out there, these big humongous, as she describes them, container ships, are making a ruckus.
	What kind of a ruckus does an anchored giant container ship make?
	They have a skeleton crew of maybe 15 people max.
	Are they honking the horn?
	Honk, honk!
	Yeah, what kind of a ruckus?
	Are they having parties on board?
	Are the music too loud?
	This is a bogus story.
	Now, we have a couple of producers on Whidbey Alley, one in Langley.
	They might want to report back to us on the ruckus.
	There's a big ruckus because of these ships.
	This is bullcrap, this report, but continue, please.
	Container ships that are anchored off the shore of the island.
	Scott Chaplin is the mayor of a town called Langley.
	I've been on the island on and off since 2008 and I never recall seeing them there except for maybe one last year and this year it's almost I think since for the last few months I've never not seen one.
	It's rare for these massive container ships to anchor near Whidbey Island.
	In fact, it's rare for them to anchor at all anywhere on the Puget Sound.
	Normally, they just pull right up to the port and start unloading their cargo.
	But the Puget Sound is chock-full of container ships right now, and they're anchored all over the place.
	And these ships are amazing.
	Enormous.
	They can be the length of multiple football fields, several stories high, stacked with metal containers from Costco, Apple, you name it.
	They can also make a lot of noise at night, which has many Whidbey Islanders kind of cranky.
	They're absolutely huge.
	They're so tall that they appear from the shore taller than the islands behind them, so they sort of block the view of the islands behind them.
	So what's going on?
	Why are there all these container ships at Whidbey Island?
	Well, the island is getting a front row seat to a huge surge in demand for imports.
	Imports that mostly come from East Asia through West Coast ports.
	Hmm.
	Alright, I have to kill it there.
	Now, a couple of things.
	One, they never tell us how many.
	Is it 10?
	Is it 5?
	Is it 100?
	Is it 1,000?
	I don't know.
	Two?
	I have no idea.
	I know they're making a ruckus.
	She also says, are you still there?
	Yeah, I'm listening to you.
	She also says that they're servicing Apple and Costco.
	You name it, she even said.
	And you name it.
	Now, there's a lot of these cargo containers go to Walgreen and I'm sure Joanne's house of whatever they sell at Joanne's and places like that.
	I think she said that just out of the blue.
	Apple's not getting cargo containers up in Seattle.
	I don't know why they would.
	You know what it was?
	Here's the way I analyze that.
	The story was someone was complaining about noise, and they built this whole thing around it.
	Well, that's a possibility, but I'm going to get back to her comment about Costco.
	There is a shipping company out of China.
	I think it's out of China.
	You can look it up.
	It's COSCO. Ah, yes!
	I see these cargo containers, the COSCO containers go by all the time on the tracks down below.
	And every time I see one, I think of Costco, even though I know it's got nothing to do with Costco.
	She probably saw that or subliminally had that.
	I've seen them.
	I've seen the Costco trains, and I've thought that too.
	Costco.
	Oh, yeah.
	Costco.
	Yeah.
	C-O-S-C-O. The T is missing.
	Hello.
	Exactly.
	It's Chinese outfit Costco.
	Well, we got a couple of notes about shipping containers, empty shipping containers, and shipping in containers in general, which is how products and services move.
	And since these are producer notes, I figured we'd share them.
	First one, one of our producers who worked for the U.S. Air Force, shipping munitions for years.
	Shipping containers that you buy are 5,000 to 20,000, depending on use.
	And most are used and have failed their inspection for shipping.
	be preparing cargo for shipping.
	This requires not only skilled workers, but also large amount of certified pest-free treated lumber.
	There's a problem.
	For blocking and bracing loads to prevent cargo from shifting.
	This lumber typically is not recycled even for reuse and shipping due to the chemicals used to treat the wood, which are semi-toxic and not something you would want to use personally.
	So lack of skilled labor and lumber are surely making the situation worse.
	And I think that's probably possible.
	Yep.
	Speaking of that, one of our producers said, I previously worked for a company that manufactured industrial packaging machinery before changing jobs earlier this year.
	While, yes, food sold in the USA generally does get made in the USA, the package material is a different story.
	You can't get the material to package your products.
	You can't sell your products.
	Every year at the PMMI conventions, packaging manufacturers or something, There are large selection of Chinese companies selling inexpensive packaging material.
	Before I left my company earlier this year, we had been constantly getting record complaints about the quality of products coming off our machines, which could only be attributed to two possibilities.
	One, the quality of the plastic shrink film that they were using on our machines, or two, the quality of the mechanics they have supporting their equipment.
	You know, this is more inferior material from China.
	Yeah, junk from China.
	Shrinkflation from China.
	And then finally, one of our producers...
	By the way, that was an excellent report.
	I think that's the kind of information we...
	That's a good one, right?
	Yeah, that's the kind of stuff we like.
	Because we don't think of it in terms of the shrink wrap that goes into the machinery to be thrown around a package.
	Yep.
	One of our producers is a truck driver.
	My life is a daily trucker.
	I grab an empty out of our lot, an empty container, take it to one of our customers, mostly Uline, SC Johnson, or Amazon.
	Then I exchange it for a loaded container, take it to one of the dozen rail yards in the south side of Chicago, drop it, grab a loaded container, bring it back to someone in southeast Wisconsin or northern Illinois.
	Either they unload it or exchange it for an empty and then return home.
	It pays well, much more than any other job I've had, and it's not that hard.
	There are 175 of us in this terminal, another 1,200 in the Chicago area, and over 12,000 in the company's division nationwide that does this.
	However, over the last couple months, many of our empty containers are stuck in California waiting to be loaded with the Cisco Dongfang and China shipping container contents that John talks about.
	Some warehouses were essential and some were not, causing a bottleneck.
	But the bigger offender is Amazon.
	They are hoarding our containers at just about one of every one of their distribution facilities, anywhere between 35 to 75 containers a day, and they're either not releasing them or being very slow to unload.
	Now, as a company, we charge them $1,000 a day per container to keep it.
	Of course, a drop in the bucket to them, and my company is making money hand over fist, but this is choking out the smaller customers who can't afford to keep a pool of containers around.
	Customers like Uline, Target, and Walmart just prepay loads and keep up with Amazon, but it forces smaller companies to either deal straight over-the-road companies, which is more expensive and sometimes less reliable, or wait until we can get a container to them.
	From the Chicago area, sometimes we have to drive a couple hundred miles to get an empty container to get to one of these customers, which of course we charge the miles to.
	We used to sell our scrap containers a few years ago, but considering every load brings in tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars now, we ain't selling shit.
	Our mechanics weld and tape every hole they can now.
	Gaffer tape to the rescue.
	How about that though?
	Well, as someone who worked on a container line making these things, I know how easy they are to fix.
	So you can get...
	And they do get holes in them.
	One of the tests when you're an inspector is they lock you.
	They always say they leave you in there.
	But they lock you into the container and you have to acclimatize for a few minutes and then you look for little lights.
	You look for any form of light inside the container.
	That means there's a...
	A point where it can leak rain or water can get in.
	But you can do the same thing with the one that's used.
	You're right.
	Just gaffer's tape, duct tape.
	Or that stuff that guy on the TV always sells.
	That goo.
	Exactly.
	What's the stuff we used to fix our mufflers with?
	What?
	Bondo?
	Bondo!
	There you go.
	Bondo.
	Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, Bondo.
	Bondo fix everything.
	Broken bones, Bondo to the rescue.
	Beautiful.
	Unless you have something else you'd like to do now, I do have a little presentation.
	No, but I'm going to clue you in on my presentation for today.
	I am going to do a presentation of Amy Goodman clips to prove that she is the worst person.
	She leaves facts out.
	She slants the news.
	She is really a communist.
	We're going to out her as a commie.
	Is that the idea?
	Well, I mean, I think she'd be proud to be one, but it's just like one thing after another.
	When you put them together and you play them one after...
	After another, I only have one that's fairly long and most of them are short.
	It's just like, it's shameful.
	It's lousy.
	It's lousy news reporting.
	It's lousy presentations.
	I did a deep dive.
	We'll do that.
	I think it's better to do this first because I did a deep dive on BlackRock.
	Oh, good.
	I would be interested in this.
	Everybody's talking about BlackRock.
	If you see anything about BlackRock, it's either they're buying up all the homes or Everything!
	And I saw very little research.
	And I'm particularly interested.
	Well, actually, here's how it started.
	I was looking for a hate clip.
	As we talked about on the last show, I said we should do hate clips.
	Yeah, you know, I had a hate clip and then I forgot to produce it.
	So the idea is something that you watch.
	Not just for the show, but just to hate what's going on, which is a good feeling in a way.
	I just go, what?
	I can't believe this.
	Yeah, it makes me feel good.
	And for me, that is, without a doubt, the podcast pivot.
	I think it comes out three times a week, which is really good for my hate-listening quota.
	It's Kara Schwisher and Scott Galloway.
	And Scott Galloway is...
	Now, he's a professor in, well, I think economics.
	I think he should be.
	But he has this incredibly smug attitude about him.
	He's...
	Apparently, I said it specifically that way, he is very successful at investing, and he doesn't do angel funding, but he does early stage companies, and he's always hanging out and talking about all the big boys and the hedge funds, and he knows everything, knows about cryptos, and he knows everything.
	And is very smug about it.
	And so there was this little bit that I was going to kind of use as a hate clip, and then I realized it really was going to take me down a whole different road as they started talking about ESG, the Environmental Social Corporate Governance, often used in a sentence as ESG goals of companies, which we've heard about, we've talked about, but really don't know that much about.
	So here's the clip that...
	I'm sorry?
	Go on.
	Here's the clip that got me started from Pivot.
	I have been just blown away by, so investors, I've always said that it's regulation and then in terms of importance that waiting on these companies, better angels to show up as a flawed strategy, there needs to be regulation and that the second place of power, fulcrum of power, is to change boards because it all starts, the board picks the CEO, the CEO picks management, compensation schematics, etc., What I miss there is another really powerful force that's really been incredibly influential is investors.
	And a lot of big investors – it's kind of strange.
	We talk about concentration of big tech.
	The concentration of alternative investments is crazy.
	If you look at the Fortune 500, two of the three largest shareholders are one of like five companies.
	It's State Street, BlackRock, and I forget who the other one is.
	Vanguard.
	There's another enormous one.
	Vanguard.
	So people say, well, the markets are somewhat inert, that you have the same kind of guy sitting around a table owning every company.
	But what's exciting is they all seem to have rallied around this notion of sustainability and ESG. And again, a massive amount of capital now has as an investment criteria some sort of ESG or climate component.
	I think it's exciting.
	Oh, it's exciting!
	Now you know why it's a hate listen.
	Oh, I'm so excited.
	I'm excited.
	There's investing in the thinking environment.
	It's exciting.
	I'm excited.
	Jeez, buddy, get a grip.
	Get a Kleenex.
	It's covering your pants.
	We could share hate clips, I guess.
	Some sort of ESG or climate component.
	I think it's exciting, and to be honest, I'm a little bit surprised.
	I'm shocked to the upside that they are taking this stuff on, and what I think they've also seen is that Companies with more diversity overperform.
	Companies with a climate policy overperform.
	So they have linked the two.
	Where's the evidence of this?
	I think, yes, thank you for that.
	When he says they overperform, I think he means the stock price overperforms.
	I don't know if the companies are overperforming.
	Because you're right, there's no evidence they're overperforming because of that, or because of even what that is, is the big question.
	But he's excited about it!
	Shock to the upside that they are taking this stuff on, and what I think they've also seen is that companies with more diversity overperform.
	Companies with a climate policy overperform.
	So they have linktitude that there appears to be a congruence between...
	Linktitude?
	I hate this show so much!
	...with a climate policy overperform.
	So they have linktitude that there appears to be a congruence between stakeholder value and shareholder returns.
	But it's crazy the amount of money that now says, unless you are buttoned up around these issues, we are not investing.
	It's interesting.
	And I think tech companies, I've been talking to a lot of tech companies, they've been really pushing this heavily because they're already doing this.
	Microsoft, you know, zero carbon, Google, stuff like that.
	It's an area where they can actually look like...
	And so they've been pushing it really hard.
	Alright, so you get the idea.
	You cannot be successful unless you have ESG and you've got one of these A-holes on your board.
	That's what it sounded like to me.
	So I went wake surfing with a former New York banker yesterday.
	A, because he invited me.
	B, because it's a nice break from packing up our home, although Tina's doing all the work.
	And C, I wanted to pick his brain about this.
	Now, you'll recall that he said BlackRock was not behind buying up all of the homes.
	And I confronted him.
	I said, look, look at this.
	Everyone's talking about it.
	He says, yes.
	Yes, you identified the narrative.
	But really, the only company that is investing to buy up homes away from people starting their lives is not BlackRock, but Blackstone.
	And I looked it up, and yes, Blackstone has put $6 billion into a fund to buy homes and rent them out, which is 17,000 homes.
	The banker said, believe me, Adam, that's really small.
	That's not important.
	$6 billion is nothing.
	That's really not the business people are in, certainly not BlackRock.
	So, what is this business with BlackRock?
	Well, first, let's look at, and this is kind of the thing that I didn't look up, and I'm kicking myself.
	You remember how President Obama had Goldman Sachs inside the administration running everything?
	We talked about that quite a bit at the time.
	Yeah.
	Well, guess what?
	The Biden administration, it's BlackRock.
	Three names to look out for.
	Brian Deese, D-E-E-S-E. He's the director of the National Economic Council, the president's main advisor for economic policy.
	Deese came from BlackRock, where he was global head of sustainable investing.
	And before that, he held senior economic posts under Obama.
	Okay.
	Including replacing John Podesta as senior advisor to the president where he worked alongside Valerie Jarrett.
	So that would be kind of an important guy inside the administration.
	A key policy post as deputy treasury secretary under Yellen.
	So the number two in command, we find Nigerian-born Wally Adeyemo.
	He also comes from BlackRock, where from 2017 to 2019, he was senior advisor and chief of staff to the CEO, Larry Fink.
	So he might have had some information and messaging after he left the Obama administration.
	That's when he went to work for BlackRock.
	His personal ties to Obama are very strong, as Obama named him the first president of the Obama Foundation in 29.
	And then finally, we have Michael Pyle.
	He is the senior economic advisor to Vice President Kamala Harris.
	He came to Washington from his position as global chief investment strategist at BlackRock, where he oversaw the strategy of their almost $9 trillion in funds.
	Thank you.
	Interesting that he's shacked up with the vice president.
	Kind of makes you wonder what they have in store for her.
	So that's these bankers inside the administration, inside the White House, moving policy, making policy, shaping policy, maybe running it for all we know.
	Let's remind ourselves that the people we're talking about all come together once a year in Davos.
	It's the World Economic Forum.
	When we're talking about ESG, the Environmental Social Corporate Governance, we don't have to go back far in the archives to hear Klaus Schwab discussing this very thing.
	To finalize maybe what we need is also a new mindset.
	It has been mentioned in the business world we see now that companies who are not committed to ESG metrics, to stakeholder capitalism, I just, to stakeholder capitalism, that those companies are on the wrong side of history.
	But it's not only companies.
	I think we also have to ask the question, how we can apply the ESG metrics even to governments too, because it's not just GDP. It's well-being, it's prosperity.
	So, this is the stakeholder capitalism thing coming back again, which is always fun.
	And we might as well bring in Larry Fink now.
	This is him, an interview about 10 months ago for the Financial Times.
	And he will explain what stakeholder capitalism really means.
	The transition that we are going to be undergoing related to sustainability.
	It's a huge economic opportunity.
	We're going to be creating new technologies, new industries, as other industries are going to become less important.
	But let's be clear.
	Let's focus on society's acceptance to create new jobs, to create new technologies, to move forward.
	We're going to need $50 trillion in investing to get to a net zero world.
	So it's not a small price tag, but the opportunity is going to be large.
	So the key there is he says we're going to need $50 trillion to get to this mythical net zero.
	And you're hearing a lot of things that you've heard the elites and the politicians talk about, especially new jobs.
	You know, it'll be good-paying jobs.
	Of course, we're going to try and move the entire economy.
	Good-paying union jobs.
	Bull crap.
	So we're going to try and move the entire economy over to sustainable energy.
	This is, in fact, a part of the Great Reset.
	$50 trillion will be needed.
	Well, you know where that's going to come from, of course, from us.
	And what does that exactly entail?
	What does it mean to finance climate change, Mr.
	Fink?
	And the only way we're going to be able to finance this, to finance...
	The impact of climate change on cities and in countrysides, on the physical impact of climate change, is going to have to be done through a public-private type of investment scheme.
	And there are huge sums of private capital looking to invest in these type of opportunities.
	We need to have a large infrastructure program to prepare ourselves for this transition.
	Just like the internet, how it's changed our daily personal lives and professional lives, I believe governments worldwide are going to need to invest in the R&D of how to prepare for climate change and helping us design and build new technologies from battery storage and the efficiencies of batteries.
	If we had strong, efficient, cheaply made batteries, we would be able to transform our power grids so much more rapidly.
	And so there are many things we need to do.
	And then we need to find ways to better sequester carbon and many more things like that and planting more trees.
	And this is all going to be a part of a long-term process.
	It can be done with government and with business.
	So I put this clip in here so we can all see...
	The guy is completely full of shit.
	Oh, we need $50 trillion.
	What do we need it for?
	Trees and better batteries.
	No, a-hole.
	You want it to make yourself and your friends and your clients, although his clients are a lot of retirement funds, they'd probably steal that money and give it to somebody.
	These people are not good.
	And they're using this ESG as the way to nudge companies, and I'm going to Get into this a little bit deeper.
	To nudge companies into playing along.
	And we're seeing this happen.
	And this...
	Here he's going to throw out a couple acronyms.
	And gee, I looked them up like, you know, journalists usually do.
	Check it out.
	In my 2020 CEO letter, we asked for companies to report on TCFD and SASB. Okay.
	So...
	When you hear that, TCFD and SASB, I immediately thought, well, it's probably like Sarbanes-Oxley or some other regulatory thing.
	It comes across as kind of like, wow, that's something official.
	So I looked it up.
	TCD stands for Task Force on Climate-Related Financial Disclosures.
	So there's a task force on climate-related financial disclosures, which have objective and subjective metrics to show how green your company is.
	And it is brought to you by SASB Standards, which is a...
	Here we go.
	SASB Standards, which stands for...
	I forget what it stands for now.
	SASB standards are maintained under the auspices of the Value Reporting Foundation, a global nonprofit organization that offers a comprehensive suite of resources designed to help businesses and investors develop a shared understanding of enterprise value, how it's created, a global nonprofit organization that offers a comprehensive suite of resources designed to
	The resources, including integrated thinking principles, the integrated reporting framework, and SASB standards, can be used alone or in combination depending on business needs.
	So what do you think about this SASB nonprofit?
	Could it be filled with bankers?
	Of course.
	So this is what they do.
	Yeah, this sounds a lot like bankers.
	Totally bankers.
	So they set up a non-profit.
	They determine these goals of better batteries, more trees.
	I didn't hear him say anything else.
	That's turned into a metric that you can then use.
	And the threat, as we've heard from Klaus, and we're going to hear more from Larry Fink, is if you don't submit your SASB TCFD reports and your metrics, we're not going to invest in you.
	Right.
	When you get a BlackRock who has $9 trillion under management, if someone pulls out, as they did recently with coal, they no longer have any investments in coal, that hurts industries.
	So this is this is the engine of what Joe Biden and the Green New Deal is talking about.
	These are the guys that are actually doing it.
	And many companies have not moved forward.
	And that's what we're asking them.
	We're looking for better transparency in how they are navigating their company.
	And that's what we're doing.
	We have not made...
	Big, bold changes, but we're asking for better disclosure.
	And I don't think there's anything wrong about asking for better disclosure across the board.
	And I think going forward, we are seeing more and more companies doing that, and they're doing it because it's good business for them.
	The one thing that is very clear in this COVID world that we're living in, beyond the sustainability world, Joe, stakeholder capitalism is only going to become more and more important There it is.
	And the companies that focus on all their stakeholders, their clients, their employees, the society where they work and operate, are going to be the companies that are going to be the winners for the future.
	And we do believe these issues around social issues and how these...
	And this is why we ask companies to report under SASB and under TCFD so we can truly understand how they're navigating around this whole long-term trend of climate change.
	We believe more than ever before, Joe, that climate change is investment risk.
	Climate change is investment risk.
	This is how he's saying that this is a good strategy.
	If you deconstruct that sentence, it makes no sense.
	Of course not.
	It's just slogans he's throwing out there.
	But make no mistake, Larry Fink is proud of what he is.
	I believe in multilateralism.
	I remain to be a globalist, a globalist who now needs to focus more on making sure we have secure and great jobs everywhere we are.
	So I think that's where we focus more on globalization, less on the impact in parts of our economies.
	And so there is a reason for the Europeans and Americans to be tough on China.
	But we need to be tough and making sure it's a level playing field across the board.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Now, so he does this letter every single year.
	He does a CEO letter, sends it to all of the CEOs that his company's invested in.
	And it's important to understand that BlackRock...
	Bill Gates.
	Oh, yeah.
	I skipped the Bill...
	He had a Bill Gates video that I skipped.
	But just to show that he hangs with the same crew.
	So the letter...
	It's important to understand that BlackRock, in general, is a passive investor.
	So they play the market, they play industries, they bought some big ETFs.
	And so they really have a passive business, which means it can be invested in by politicians, for instance, or by financial news hosts, because there's no agenda other than making profit over certain sectors.
	But they don't...
	They're not like Carl Icahn.
	They don't say, we're buying up a piece of this company and we're getting...
	And I'm going to run it.
	Exactly.
	Well, guess what?
	It's starting to look a little different.
	So here he is about his January 2020 letter.
	You said, I believe that the pandemic has presented such an existential crisis, such a stark reminder of our fragility...
	It has driven us to confront the global threat of climate change more forcefully and to consider how, like the pandemic, it will alter our lives.
	And you demand a global and ambitious response.
	Last year you targeted thermal coal.
	This year you're asking all companies to disclose concrete plans to move towards a net zero economy by 2050.
	And the point about this is you're going to say you're going to hold them responsible.
	If they don't do this, you may vote against the board of directors with your passive fund.
	And with your active funds, you may disinvest.
	Otherwise, he's no better or worse than an activist like Carl Icahn.
	And I suppose the main question for you, the letter came out yesterday, is what has been the response from the CEOs so far?
	We'll really know the response coming soon.
	I think so far the response has been very positive.
	I've received many, many texts and emails.
	Thank you for moving forward.
	You know, the real response will be, how will companies adapt to the ask?
	And I'm doing this not as an environmentalist.
	I'm doing this as a capitalist who truly believes that climate change is investment risk.
	And as a fiduciary to all our savers, And we manage more retirement assets than anybody in the world.
	And the responsibility of managing that asset, it's a long-term outcome.
	It's not a short TikTok of the day outcome, but it's a long outcome.
	And we see how climate change is going to impact all of society, as a letter suggested, similar to how COVID has done that.
	I like how he says the TikTok of the day, which means they made a killing on something with TikTok, I'm sure.
	So, the cat's out of the bag.
	Obviously, they're going to be very activist.
	They are threatening with board of directors changes.
	They're threatening all kinds of activism.
	You better get on board with your SASB and TCFD. If you don't report, there's going to be trouble for you.
	And luckily, it's my favorite clip.
	Almost done.
	Joe Kernan of CNBC. Does this guy have tenure or something at CNBC? Yes.
	I don't know.
	He might as well because he called out Larry Fink on this whole thing and Fink gets mad and that's what I like about Larry Fink is he has so many tells.
	You start talking loud!
	Joe Kernan of CNBC calls him out and says, hey man, so you're not, so you are an activist and But you're not going to do anything.
	Clearly, you screwed coal.
	You pulled out of coal.
	Well, what's to stop you from doing that to every other industry now that you are an activist?
	And it was a great little back and forth.
	So there are some policies that I'll have an input on.
	But when it comes to any single company we're not...
	Let me approach it from a different angle.
	Corporation XYZ makes a fantastic product.
	They satisfy their customers' needs better than their competition.
	Their employees are happy.
	They're making great strides in planning for their retirement.
	They pay taxes to the United States government.
	Everything is great.
	But the CEO doesn't feel like embracing whatever societal changes are in vogue at the moment that Larry Fink happens to think are in vogue.
	So he actually is not going to play ball with you on what you think.
	Which, you said change, embracing change.
	He doesn't want, he thinks some of these changes may not be lasting.
	They may be whatever the certain side of the political spectrum decides is important at that moment.
	Are you going to try and get him, you know, oust that board and vote your shares against him?
	No, of course not.
	First of all, you're personalizing with me.
	I'm not involved in this.
	All right, BlackRock.
	Okay, thank you.
	All right.
	two.
	Well, this is your idea, isn't it?
	Or whose idea is it?
	Two.
	It's the first idea.
	Okay, BlackRock.
	All right.
	I think of you as BlackRock, which is a compliment.
	Thank you.
	But it's not.
	Hopefully it's not.
	Not a compliment that I'm not.
	There's more than BlackRock.
	I get you.
	I get you.
	Ego maniac.
	Good.
	Thanks, Joe.
	Biggest money manager in the world.
	If a company is performing really, really well, if...
	As you just suggested, and it is a beacon for its employees and all that stuff.
	I am very confident that engagement is going to be very positive.
	And so I think you just framed it in a way that I don't see that being a reality.
	I will tell you, I have had conversations pretty close to half the COs who received the letter, and I don't believe they're sucking up to me or anything like that.
	What if you tell Exxon, they've got to stop drilling for hydrocarbons and they've got to do renewable energy because they don't...
	But you're framing things...
	Well, let's say you do that.
	But that's not going to happen.
	We have not done that.
	Okay.
	You're framing...
	Hypotheticals that are not even the realm of reality.
	I mean, it's nice to talk about and framing questions that are 2% probable.
	How about Coca-Cola?
	You tell them no more sugary drinks.
	That's their business.
	Their business is providing enjoyment.
	Okay, how about Philip Morris?
	No more tobacco products.
	We will not do that either.
	What will you do?
	Those are not the issues.
	We have these issues many times.
	If an individual is investing in an index that has Philip Morris, that has Coca-Cola, we're not going to be changing their business models to that way.
	That's their business model.
	So we're not going to be saying, get out of your business.
	That's exactly what they're doing.
	It's exactly what they're doing, and they will do it to any business.
	These guys are ruthless.
	They're globalists.
	They don't care about the environment.
	He said it himself.
	He wants to make money.
	He's a capitalist.
	And this is what is driving the whole machinery.
	You go to every single company and you say, all right, you got to be on board with the Green New Deal.
	We better see some green shit everywhere.
	And that's why you see people posting, so, oh, we've got green paper today and we're using this.
	And so we have more SASB TFCD scores.
	Otherwise, BlackRock will not invest in you.
	The threat, and this is what excites SASB. Scott Galloway.
	Oh, it's so exciting.
	These guys are doing a good job.
	It's real.
	So let's get this straight.
	Now, by the way, I thought these were good clips, and it is true, and it's also possible, it seems to me, that you're kind of overlooking the kind of the sick aspect of it, where they're making people, they're making them do stuff that just is a joke, like dance monkey, dance.
	I do have a final clip that Well, before you go into the final, okay.
	Okay, and then after the final, I'm going to give an analysis of what happened here.
	Yes.
	And this final clip is for the S in the ESG. And it is my belief that all this wokeness that you're seeing is a part of it.
	And this is not discussed outwardly.
	By Fink or anybody else.
	But I'm pretty sure that there's some part of this mission is, okay, you've got to show your social corporate governance.
	Show that you're doing critical race theory training or whatever it is.
	Otherwise, you're also going to be on the outs.
	And of course, that has all these extra benefits of people being mind-controlled.
	And it all comes, the reason they feel that they can do this comes from a study done by PR firm Edelman.
	I mean, there was an interesting survey by Edelman that just came out showing that people trust companies more than politicians.
	I mean, in some ways that might reassure you, but doesn't it in other ways make you feel rather sad?
	Well, I'm actually quite pleased that, you know, I'm in a group of business leaders that are doing the right thing.
	And I think that's what the Edelman survey is indicating, that it is being recognized.
	Let's be clear, though.
	But without governments doing anything, without China and America or India doing things like that, nothing's going to happen.
	What you're doing makes a difference, certainly.
	But in the end, it's about the state.
	You're right, John.
	What I was going to say is we need government involvement.
	Anyway, you get the point.
	They got the study.
	Corporate brands are more trusted than politicians.
	Which is not hard to understand or believe.
	But they've taken that and they run with it.
	And I think they're outrunning themselves now.
	So it's all bunched together.
	These guys are forcing corporations to do things.
	Well, this is nothing new in the corporate world.
	But what happened here is that you listen to this jamoke on...
	Galloway.
	Yes.
	And it irked you so much that you did this report.
	Well, that and the fact that I've been reading so much about ESG and BlackRock and how they own everything, and I want to know the mechanism.
	The mechanism is clear.
	They've become activist-investored, and they have 10% of every single company in the world.
	Yeah.
	So they have board members.
	So they have board members.
	All right.
	You were going to deconstruct it.
	I just did.
	Yeah.
	No, that's not just because of Scott Galloway.
	You're irked.
	This is a hate clip.
	A hate clip turned into a report.
	Yes, okay, you're right.
	That's exactly what happened.
	So we've just got to keep our eye on these.
	And there's tons of interviews with this Larry Fink.
	And we never really hear anything about it.
	Well, we're on him now.
	It's too late for him.
	Because once you identify the snakes...
	Yep.
	You can have a lot of fun just following what they have to say.
	And I think we had this earlier when we had, you identified the snake from Pfizer.
	Yeah.
	What's his name?
	Yeah.
	Gottlieb.
	Gottlieb.
	You play clip after clip from him.
	And once you see these guys and you see that they keep cropping up over and over and they're throwing in their poison and their propaganda to promote themselves.
	I mean, this guy's not in it for anything but the money.
	He said so himself.
	Yeah.
	And, yeah, then once you see it, then we can just put them, they're regulars now on the show.
	Yes, and he speaks so well.
	Nobody else sees it that way.
	These other, I mean, I can't believe that they put these people on these shows.
	I mean, I can see it on CNBC, that makes more sense.
	But they have the Gottlieb character floating around all these other talk shows.
	With a vested interest, that conflict of interest, let's put it correctly, a conflict of interest that's, you know, as big as a billboard, and you put him on and let him say what he wants and you don't question any of it?
	Except for Joe Kiernan on CNBC. He's the only guy.
	Again, I said that's different.
	I see CNBC is that kind of thing I would expect.
	But on the other journalism shows...
	You don't get any of that.
	They never push back.
	That clip, it's in the show notes, all of those clips, the one with Kiernan, it starts off with Andrew Ross Sorkin, and he could not have his tongue further up Fink's butt.
	Yeah.
	Ex-New York Times, sir.
	And then Fink reacted with a little kind of like a head jerk towards something he said, and he immediately backpedaled it.
	It's a real suck-up pussy boy.
	No backbone.
	So yeah, they're probably all afraid of...
	Who's looking for a job?
	Yeah.
	Hoping to get a job there.
	The kind of money you'd make at an operation like...
	That's where you want to be.
	Like BlackRock would be.
	Just being a guy at a desk is going to be ten times more he's going to get at CNBC. So the idea is...
	As far as I understand it, this ESG, your score, your ESG goals, as determined by SASB and TCFD, that's what will be turned into carbon credits and a true pricing on carbon, and they're going to make even more money.
	That's $50 trillion.
	That's the prize he has his eye on.
	That's what he wants.
	He wants to get that money.
	Screw him.
	Yeah, well, you're right.
	Now that we've seen the snake, the head of the snake is good.
	Yeah, we just keep highlighting it.
	Yeah.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the corporate governance, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
	John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning, all ships to see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And let's say in the morning to the trolls in the troll room at trollroom.io.
	Let's count them trolls.
	Hands up, please!
	All right.
	And let me see.
	How come I'm not getting a troll count?
	There we go.
	1,689.
	Is that on par for a Thursday?
	What was the number?
	1689, just under 17.
	That's down 200 from the good old days.
	What happened?
	COVID's over.
	No one cares.
	They don't want to know about bankers.
	They don't want to know about their future.
	No, they don't.
	Well, trolls, those of you that are with us, thank you for scurrying around on the count.
	That is trollroom.io, which is part of No Agenda Stream, where you can listen to this show live Thursdays and Sundays, but there's plenty of, even before we come on, Darren O'Neill does the rock and roll pre-show, Nick the Rat show live, the Grumpy Old Benz.
	There's a ton of stuff happening, and we have the chat Synchronized with that.
	If it's not live, then you're all listening to the same thing, the same podcast.
	You can find it at noagendastream.com or if you just want to head straight in, go to trollroom.io.
	And you can also follow us on one of our many other fantastic services that we provide as a part of all of Gitmo Nation.
	That's noagendasocial.com where we have an active conversation.
	We have, sadly, a closed community because we just can't be running big servers, but things are spreading out.
	People are decentralizing with their own Mastodon servers.
	So follow at Adam at noagendasocial.com or at John C. Devorak at noagendasocial.com.
	And you will not be disappointed.
	You will find that Gitmo Nation is alive and well, and doing that on the Macedon Fettyverse is without algorithms.
	It will be a nice, pleasant experience.
	And then I'd like to thank the artist for episode 1357, titled Quantum Supremacy.
	Artwork was brought to us by Kenny Benn, who I understand is female and whose name is Kendra.
	I learned that from noagendasocial.com.
	And we'll just keep with the artist moniker.
	Kenny Ben brought us the world's best seeding parent artwork.
	We did have a couple of choices.
	And of course, since we went for the quantum supremacy title instead of the artwork, that kind of shut down a couple of otherwise interesting and good submissions.
	Yeah.
	I think there's at least four or five pieces that we could have used.
	This one I kind of like.
	I always liked that baseball lookup, you know, anyway.
	She's done some good things.
	She did the Covey the dog.
	Remember the dog, Covey?
	Yes, yes, of course.
	With the little house.
	Yeah, Covey, the Covey sniffing dog.
	She's actually got four pages of art.
	One of the soup cans, not the one we picked.
	Really?
	She has that much, huh?
	Wow.
	She's got four pages, Wheel of Fauci.
	She's got a lot of stuff.
	She does dog peeing on a...
	She's got a lot of stuff.
	Always a hit.
	Dog peeing on anything, always a hit.
	Let me see what else we had.
	What else was in consideration?
	So yeah, we had Kenny Bended to the seeding parent with little sperms.
	And also the non-birthing parent, which we just thought the seeding parent was better.
	But what else did we see?
	Well, actually, there's more to it than that.
	You had made the argument, because I liked the other one a little better at first, and you made the argument, no, since that's been used for the last couple of weeks, it was kind of old.
	Oh, birthing parent, yes.
	Yeah, the concept of birthing parent, yep.
	That was used since Mother's Day.
	You're right.
	And so a seating pair, which was original, was picked.
	That's why there's two of us.
	Let's see what else.
	Even though you do dominate these picks on these arts.
	Oh my God!
	Here's how it goes.
	What do you like, John?
	John goes through it.
	He'll say, I like this, I like that.
	And then he says, okay, I'm good with that.
	That's what I always say.
	I don't dominate.
	You dominate.
	Don't dom me, bro.
	And then there was Nick the Rat with the arrow going in the wrong direction.
	Didn't he correct it?
	He made it a U-turn going back down again.
	That was a cool shirt.
	I hope no agenda shop.com does.
	I wouldn't mind having a quantum supremacist shirt.
	It's kind of funny.
	Just as a gag.
	Okay.
	And that would be that.
	Yes.
	Congratulations to Kenny Ben.
	Thank you very much, Kenny Ben, all the artists who participated.
	You can see many of these pieces of art flying by as just one of the 20 enhancements to podcasting, Podcasting 2.0.
	You can find new apps, which I'd like you to try one.
	Nothing will go wrong with your old app, and you can even move your subscriptions over newpodcastapps.com.
	And congratulations to Podfriend at podfriend.com with a brand new release, lots of features, and open source, so you can go and enjoy the player and then build your own if you want.
	And now let us thank some of the executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1358, who helped us in a big way to keep the show on the road and in the rails.
	But first, before we do that...
	I have to change my restart to install the latest Windows updates.
	No!
	Don't do it!
	Is it counting you down?
	I hit the snooze button.
	Which means nine minutes from now it'll be back.
	Gregory Forsyth Foreman is top of our list for show $13.58 with $13.57.76.
	So he'll be a club member, but we have to throw in 24 cents.
	Well, I have only pennies.
	Well, you have at least three.
	There's a quarter.
	A quarter?
	You got a quarter and I was over one.
	I threw a quarter.
	He's in Bromley County, UK. I'm feeling good today.
	And...
	He has a note.
	ITM, Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	He's got a bunch of jingles, WTC7, Weez, No Agenda, Dvorak Jingle, Do You Obey and Go Podcasting.
	The positive influence, he writes, you two geezers have had upon the...
	Well, I'll tell you, boy.
	You know, the positive...
	I'm going to read like a geezer.
	Positive influence you two geezers have had upon the world and its inhabitants is a lasting testament to the greatness of the good and everything.
	Everywhere.
	Come to think of it, there's one or two other testaments that are lasting too.
	Whatever.
	I think those are biblical.
	Thank you for fortifying the medium of podcasting by continuing to do the work.
	And that means for us slaves, you are solidifying the rights of free speech more than anyone alive whom this K.O.K. can name.
	What does that mean?
	I have no idea.
	Among the living, anyway.
	You two are legends.
	I'll go back to my regular voice.
	Because I'm sure that other voice is not good for me.
	No.
	As a knight of the nation...
	Or your career.
	Or my career.
	I could probably get a job with that voice.
	Yes, you could.
	I pledge to continue to unfold and I can't get rid of it.
	The virtues endorsed and reinforced brought forth by hour after hour of listening that are only fully realized in producership.
	Okay.
	The enemy of humanity has made the M5M the world over his bitch.
	I think he's referring to the devil.
	Yep.
	By illuminating their malevolent ways, the No Agenda show provides a vehicle for everyone everywhere to find a moral backbone, a compass for the media, liescape.
	Ooh, I like liescape.
	That's a good one, liescape.
	And most importantly, a lantern by which to see it and undo the reality of the pandemic of fake lib fascist faux globalist media induced mental illness.
	Don't hold back.
	Yeah.
	That's a mouthful.
	Which has infected and infested our world.
	This Instadame donation...
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, I see.
	He's the King of Kent.
	And this is for the Queen of Kent.
	That's what KOK was.
	Now I got it.
	Oh, KOK. I was going to say what it sounds like.
	Okay.
	In honor of the Queen of Kent, whom I have the pleasure of calling my wife as of Tuesday last.
	Oh, they just got married.
	She is dead totes of boars?
	Adorbs.
	Adorbs.
	Oh, okay, she's adorbs.
	And smoking hot to boot.
	If Adam could kick in a panty and the Noah generation would be so kind to follow by chipping in with 33 cents, she can keep the show club lot company for the eternity that we will all willingly embrace.
	As a bonus, as the father here striving for hashtag Kexit will endeavor to save up in good time.
	Not sure what that means, but I just read what it said.
	Okay.
	All right.
	He's got some jingles.
	It says, Go meet his Queen of Kent in Show Club 33.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Long?
	Is she on the list for Damien?
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	She's on the list.
	It's all taken care of.
	WTC7 won't go away.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. You will obey.
	You will obey.
	You will obey.
	Go podcasting!
	There you go.
	Thank you very much.
	You get the next.
	Dame Anonymous of Colonial Palace, or Place, Colonial Place, $594.
	And she writes in, this is for my niece, Lexi, who has a four to five hour doctor's appointment this morning at Johns Hopkins.
	We hope they can at least tell us why she's in constant pain.
	Yikes.
	May I have health karma for her and Sharpton for my sister?
	Thank you, Dame Anonymous of Colonial Place.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T. You've got karma.
	Sir 3D here in the morning, Adam and John, 333-34 from Lottie, Lottie, Florida.
	I'd like to thank you both, especially John, for the encouragement in episode 1328 regarding my Bauhaus piece and other art.
	Yes, we remember that.
	It made my day!
	That's right, that's why we do it.
	Your show art commentary is very valuable to all the artists.
	Recently there was a listener who had misheard the term ceiling wax as ceiling wax as in the ceiling...
	Did we read this note already?
	This is the note I referred to, but it didn't get kicked into this show.
	Here we go.
	Recently, I heard there was a listener who misheard the term ceiling wax as ceiling, C-E-I, wax, as in the ceiling of a room.
	Being a non-native English speaker myself, I has always heard it this way as well.
	Hence, I made a ceiling wax art piece already in March of this year, which I guess.
	I guess we didn't understand what was going on at the time.
	We didn't get the joke.
	I remember, like, what the hell?
	What is the ceiling wax about?
	What is this?
	Unfortunately, due to time zones, it is impossible for me to listen to the show live.
	I'm therefore limited to creating evergreen artwork, perhaps chapter art too.
	I am an industrial design and branding veteran who has worked with many top international brands.
	I am currently open for new projects.
	If anyone in the No Agenda community needs branding, product design, or high-end 3D work, please contact me.
	Wow.
	Do you have an address for him?
	I do not, but Sir3Ds, we'll find out.
	Do you have a project for him?
	I've always got projects.
	I'm working on a vinegar book.
	Did you hear about it?
	Yes.
	Yes, I have heard about it.
	I personally wouldn't bring it up.
	I don't do that anymore.
	It's just mean.
	I'm not like that.
	I'm not like that.
	Sir Kevin Dills, Earl of North Carolina, the classic 33333.
	And he says, Adam on Tom Woods!
	And he's quoting me, I guess.
	There's this group of older millennials, dot dot dot.
	That group, dot dot dot.
	The next group of leaders, I think they've checked out.
	And it's unstoppable.
	Ding the bell, Curry!
	Please, karma.
	Sir Kevin Dills, Earl of North Carolina.
	Yes, I was on the Tom Woods show.
	Yeah, how'd that go?
	It went pretty good.
	Pretty well.
	It was good.
	You know, I did Michael Malice, Tom Woods, and you remember Michael Malice?
	The guy you called a gay sissy boy moving to Austin?
	I never said that.
	You're the one that said he was gay.
	No, you're the one that said he was gay.
	You said he's gay, which I don't think he is, actually.
	I don't even know.
	Anyway, despite that, or maybe because of that, he invited me on his show, and it was very nice.
	A lot of people like that.
	Oh, good.
	I never heard about this.
	Yeah, I did a couple.
	I'm on a tear, man.
	I'm promoting everything.
	You are on a tear, and you should continue, because you're great on these shows, even though there's only...
	Yeah.
	Rogan and Woods seem to be the ones that have gotten us some business.
	Yes.
	Well, Malice will do good business for us, too, I'm sure.
	It's beautiful.
	We talked about that.
	There's such an overlap.
	Anyway, Sir Kevin Dills wants a ding of the bell, and he wants a karma.
	Well, of course, we'll give that to you.
	Thanks for your support, ma'am.
	You've got karma.
	So, you do all these podcasts, but you never did, you promised to do, like, who are these podcasts, and you never do.
	No, that's what you do.
	I still have to do Grimerica, Grumpy Old Ben's.
	Oh, it's Grimerica, that's another one, yeah.
	No, Grimerica's the one, but they do, yes, maybe after the move, I'll just need some time.
	It's a timing issue.
	It's not that I don't love them.
	But yes.
	No, they're the best, those guys.
	I know.
	I know.
	I suck.
	And they're all podcasting 2.0 compatible and everything, just waiting for me to bless them.
	I'm bad.
	I'm a bad podfather.
	Bad podfather.
	Bad podfather.
	Bad.
	George Walther in...
	Luxembourg, uh, 33333, said he sent a donation note by email, or by mail, by mail.
	I have not, there's no email.
	By mail?
	And I've got nothing yet, but when it comes in, I'll read it.
	Hmm.
	Because it'll come in with a Luxembourg stamp, and I love these, these stamps, because I tear them off and I save them in a big bag.
	Thank you, George.
	Anonymous from Courtney, British Columbia, Scandinavia, 248.
	Now, I'm wondering, do you think this was a 300 and it just came out at 248 and this is really an executive producership, but something got messed up in the numbers and we do honor Dollaretts.
	I would say that's true because normally if it gets bumped up, it's usually in the note and Eric bumps it up by hand.
	So we'll give him an executive producership.
	It's funny, you know, we're looking for some chairs for the new house, and Tina's like, she's looking at this website, and it's Canadian dollars.
	And she says, wow, it's really expensive.
	Hit the U.S. dollar sign, boom!
	It's like, oh, these chairs are quite affordable all of a sudden.
	These guys are getting screwed in B.C., man.
	Yeah, good luck in the shipping.
	Oh, good point.
	Yeah, shipping when.
	I'm sending this donation, says Anonymous, for my husband who turns 48 today.
	He's a dedicated No Agenda listener and hit me in the mouth just a few months before COVID hit.
	Perfect timing.
	So I owe gratitude to him as well as the show since it is, here it is, one of the few things keeping me sane and with a regular-sized amygdala this past year.
	I'm a family doctor.
	Wow.
	Hold on a second.
	Whoa!
	Burying the lead?
	Oh, man!
	So we kept the medical professionals sane.
	And she probably took our advice.
	Medical advice.
	I should expect.
	I'm a family doctor.
	Needless to say, this has been a challenging year to be in my profession, especially having the awareness of a No Agenda listener.
	The degree of muzzling pressure and frank threats to those interested in asking questions has been shocking.
	So thanks to both of you, all the hard-working producers, and my husband as well, for helping me stay oriented in these times.
	More donations to come.
	Could we please have some de-douching?
	You've been de-douched.
	And he was asking about a jingle where some dog sing a Pink Floyd song.
	What do you want for your birthday, honey?
	I want the song where the dog sing the Pink Floyd song.
	Okay.
	So I would love to hear more from Anonymous from BC. I'd like to know more about your experiences as a physician, as a doctor, and how you were muzzled.
	If you were.
	And exactly, you know, what her experience was.
	I'd love to hear that from any of our doctor producers, by the way.
	And thank you very much.
	It's not good.
	No, but it'd be good to have more boots on the ground reports.
	Thank you, Anonymous.
	No, we like reading these things.
	Very, very sweet of you to do that for your husband.
	here's some dogs doing Pink Floyd Lady Leanne in Riverside, California comes in with $241.77 um ITM gents, thank you for all that you do.
	For us, we are very appreciative of the time you give to keeping us sane.
	Please attribute this donation.
	It's just the funny part of it.
	Please attribute this donation to my knight in shining armor, Steve Webb.
	Steve Webb?
	Hold on, Steve Webb is one of the OG Godcasters.
	He's a famous guy.
	Author and producer of LifeSpring Podcast.
	This may get him to knighthood.
	I don't think so.
	I'll let him know once I see his accounting.
	I haven't gotten anything I don't see.
	Aww.
	spiritual leader, God blessed me beyond measure when he gifted me with Steve.
	I have known him for 36 years and it is new every day.
	I never thought anyone could love me like he does.
	He has been such a great example of godly living to our three sons.
	They have been, they have seen tenderness, strength, intelligence.
	They never had a fight and so much more from him.
	They all take great care of their beautiful wives and I believe it is because they emulate their dad.
	I know this is long, but I could go on forever about this handsome hubby of mine.
	Thank you again, and happy Father's Day to both of you.
	Lady Leanne.
	I'm going to give a little karma for both of them, even though not requested.
	You've got karma.
	Robert McCauley.
	Gosh, it'd be funny if that was Bob McCauley from Anheuser-Busch, but I doubt it somehow.
	2-33-33.
	PayPal says Shonda.
	But this is from Rob McCauley.
	Okay.
	In the morning, gents, here's another donation towards my knighthood as Sir Fat Dad of B-Mexicans.
	I really want this title.
	BMX. BMX. BMXicans.
	BMXicans.
	I really want this title, so I'm trying to hurry it along.
	I would like to give a shout-out to all my fellow Pelican Heads.
	Pelican Heads.
	Where are Pelican Heads?
	What is that?
	Is that a sports team?
	I don't know.
	It's a club.
	I've never heard of it.
	Maybe it's in New Orleans?
	It doesn't say.
	Parts Unknown, so I don't know.
	I would also like to introduce a new phrase for all of our New World Order folks.
	Build Back Babble.
	Hmm.
	You guys inspire me.
	Love is lit, and remember, no agenda, bitch!
	I gotcha.
	Jingles, please.
	Oh.
	Yep.
	Okay, we need...
	What do we need now?
	We need Sleepy Joe.
	Sleepy Joe, you might die.
	Don't enslave me, camel.
	And if it's not too much trouble, I would like to redouble my karma with a goat R2-D2 dog.
	Sounds like a lot.
	We can probably do that.
	I'm missing one here.
	Sleepy Joe, you might die.
	Don't enslave me, Camilla.
	Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe.
	You might die.
	Don't enslave me, Camilla!
	Oh, jeez.
	You've got.
	You've got.
	There you go.
	you Michael Lumpkins in Goochland, Virginia.
	213.37.
	I, Tim, John and Adam, thank you both for your courage.
	My dad hit me in the mouth over a year ago and I have yet to donate.
	But so does he.
	Please credit this donation towards his quest to knighthood.
	De-douche him and then douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Please also send him some karma and add him to the birthday list as today.
	It's 624.
	It's his 61st.
	And he would be, it would be, and would be his late father's 93rd.
	Born on the same day.
	Miss you, Opa.
	Happy birthday, Dad.
	Thanks for being you.
	Love, Michael.
	And then he's got jingle requests and they're blank.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	and cheap cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Hey, everybody.
	Anyone gonna eat this meatloaf?
	Don't laugh.
	Why you are laughing?
	Shut up.
	Oh, there they are.
	You've got karma.
	Shut up.
	If I double-click the box, they show up.
	Yeah, I know.
	Excel is a beast.
	Mike of the Rising Elevator from Laguna Niguel, California.
	213.33 in the morning, gentlemen.
	I'll keep it short.
	I finally experienced the California sexual harassment training that John is always raving about.
	The one that I refuse to take.
	I'm not raving in the positive sense.
	Well, I didn't say it was positive.
	It was every bit of a terrible, terribly produced product that could be put out for consumption and hope to never have to sit through that again.
	After finishing, I felt obliged to donate to the best podcast in the universe.
	Thanks for what you guys do.
	No jingles but some goat karma for everyone.
	Mike of the Rising Elevator.
	Yes.
	Good one.
	You've got...
	Yes, when you get sexual harassment training, think of the No Agenda show.
	That's right.
	Time to donate.
	Robert Ludwig in Nevada, Iowa, 202.47.
	First donation.
	The 202 part is for 2020 when my wife passed away from leukemia just prior to the COVID early February.
	The 47 was her age, four months before our 25th anniversary of 624.
	Donating for...
	I'm sorry to hear that.
	Donating for our 26th anniversary, please de-douche me.
	You got it.
	You've been de-douched.
	Sorry about that.
	Black Knight Big Loaf of the Blas from Garner, North Carolina, 200.
	Now, right off the bat, he asked for Dvorak.org slash NA. Okay.
	But then, and I know this jingle, but I need some help.
	What would I have titled it?
	It's Donate to No Agenda.
	It's just Donate, isn't it just Donate?
	No, no, no.
	It's Donate Enough to be a Nice Agenda.
	No, stop, stop.
	No, that's not the one.
	Donate enough to be a night someday.
	No agenda.
	But what is it?
	There was another part.
	I've looked under night someday.
	Donate.
	I haven't heard that for so long.
	Let me think.
	It was every day of the week.
	No agenda.
	It's just under like donate alternative or...
	Donate something.
	He's got to have the word donate right in there.
	No, but it doesn't have it in there.
	That's what pisses me off.
	It's not.
	But I do remember the song.
	I mean, I've got the donate.
	I've got the donate.
	Donate Akbar.
	But no.
	And it's a good one, too.
	Because I remember the song, so I'm sorry, man.
	When you find it, you're going to have to retitle it.
	Yes.
	Oh, thank you, Karma King.
	Tag those MP3 files.
	Captain Obvious, get it straight.
	Yeah, really.
	Hail the Foots!
	Black Knight, Big Loaf of the Blast has been around, isn't it?
	I was listening to your appearance on the Tom Wood Show.
	Uh-oh!
	Notice he said that he had...
	Tom Wood donation.
	Notice that he had said that he had, quote, listened enough to no agenda to know what your stance on mask wearing was.
	This means he's listening, but not donating!
	I hate to do this to someone I admire as much as Tom, but as a black knight, I must call him out as a non-donating douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	That's right.
	Invite me on your show, and then my producers will call you a douchebag.
	It's perfect.
	And I'm sure I'll get invited back again.
	We get invited again and again.
	Also, Adam, while you often point out that there may not be many ADOS members of the amateur radio community, which would be American descendants of slavery, i.e. black community, That's not to say there aren't many ADOS brothers out there working skip-off of HF radio.
	CB is alive and well.
	If you listen to 27025 kHz AM, aka the Super Bowl, or 27.385 kHz on LSB lower sideband on any day when the conditions are...
	You'll note the ADOS community owns the band.
	And they have the most kick-ass stations out there, so maybe they've figured out what I have.
	You don't need a ham ticket to work random dudes in far-off places.
	Something I would never say in public.
	And they all have linear amps.
	Yeah.
	And if you happen to be driving by one of them, when they key up, good luck with your radio not blowing up.
	Your feelings hurt.
	My feelings hurt.
	I'm running barefoot.
	You got a big toaster on that machine to blow up.
	That's what we call it.
	One last thing.
	I'll be hosting a meetup pool party for all the producers out there in Raleigh, Garner, North Carolina on July 24th where beers will be drunk and amygdalas will be shrunk.
	RSVP on noagendameetups.com.
	Love and Lit.
	Black Night.
	Big Loaf of the Blast.
	Call sign 333 North Carolina.
	Thanks, man.
	Good report.
	Good report.
	Oh, I get mesmerized by that one.
	By the way, stop, stop.
	I did get a follow-up in this genre.
	Here it is.
	Adam, this is from Chuck.
	I am very upset that John C. Dvorak has let his amateur radio license expire.
	As a responsible radio ham, you know that this puts him and the entire world in peril.
	As we all know, legally authorized radio hams will save the world in case of communications disaster.
	However, I have found a way to motivate him to get off his butt and renew it during the two-year grace period.
	Currently, a ham license can be renewed at no cost, but the FCC has announced they are going to establish a $35 license fee.
	So, I guess he's playing to your scrooginess.
	My ability to find a good deal.
	Yeah, well, the good deal is now, I guess.
	I guess so.
	I better get on the stick.
	And I give you credit, this is the third reminder in a row you've given me.
	I even told Mimi to remind you.
	Oh, she won't.
	She doesn't care.
	No, that's what she said.
	I don't care.
	I won't do it.
	I don't care.
	I don't give a shit.
	Last on our list is Seth Harper, $200, and he has a couple jingle requests.
	Don't trust China, don't raff, and nap for humanity.
	Dear John and Adam, please see my accounting below.
	I believe this $200 donation makes me a knight.
	I started listening after Adam's appearance on the Adam Carolla show.
	Holy moly!
	Now that's got to be...
	Twelve years ago?
	I don't even think you mentioned the No Agenda show and the Adam Carolla show.
	Yeah, I did.
	Twelve years ago.
	I heard Adam went to school in West Virginia and decided to check out the show.
	I've been listening ever since.
	After several swings, I recently succeeded in hitting my mom in the mouth, and she is now an avid listener.
	Oh, nice.
	I expect her to send a check any day now.
	For my night name, please dub me Sir Seth.
	The mountain knight.
	I humbly request...
	West Virginia doesn't say, but...
	I would think so, yeah.
	Yeah, mountain knight.
	Mountaineer!
	I humbly request pepperoni rolls and Pappy Van Winkle at the round table.
	That's the number one collected bourbon in the world.
	Really appreciate all the work you guys do.
	Yes, Seth.
	I did not go to West Virginia University.
	I went to Salem College, and right now I am proudly wearing my Salem Tigers hoodie.
	1926, which was the last time they won anything.
	That's where I went to school for three months, but still, it's my alma mater.
	Chinese asshole!
	Bon draft!
	Why you are laughing?
	Shut up!
	Shut up!
	You've got karma.
	And those are executive and associate executive producers for show 1358.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for making the show possible today.
	And we will be thanking more of our producers who came in $50 and above in the second donation segment.
	But right now, again, a reminder that these...
	Titles are real.
	These credits can be used anywhere credits are recognized.
	And you can just boldly put them on your LinkedIn.
	Put them on your CV, on your resume, anything you want.
	And by the way, unlike the phonies in Hollywood, if anyone ever questions your producer credit, executive or associate executive producer credit, we'll vouch for you.
	And we've done that.
	We've vouched for people, for jobs, all kinds of stuff.
	Happy to do it at any time.
	Thank you for producing episode 1358.
	And if you'd like to help us out for the next one, if you want to be a part of the big game here, go to Dvorak.org slash NA. And thank you all for your time, your talent, your treasure of producing the best podcast in the universe.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water. Order.
	Shut up, play.
	Shut up, slave!
	Did you see that the United States government, this is really quite egregious, took down or hijacked, really, the DNS of many Iranian news outlets, including press...
	Yes, I actually have the report, and it's part of my Amy Goodman rundown.
	Oh, good, because this, to me, I have been reading or following or maybe even getting clips from press TV for over a decade.
	And now all of a sudden, oh, it's disinformation, take it down.
	And that's done at the DNS level.
	This is more scary to me than anything.
	I agree, and I'm surprised that the media is not completely outraged.
	Who's to say what's this information?
	Yeah, the Iranians probably have it.
	And I'm sure there's a lot of bullcrap on it.
	But so what?
	It's a news outlet.
	According to our own constitution, the Bill of Rights, you can't do that.
	But what is the mechanism?
	Who do you go to?
	I can.
	I mean, who do you go to to say, OK, we're from the government.
	We're here to help.
	We're taking over this domain name.
	How does that work?
	That's fucked.
	Well, we need to dig into it a little bit more, and I'm sure our Ben's out there will.
	I'm sorry, I didn't mean...
	That was an unnecessary F-drop.
	But this really scares me more than anything else we've dealt with.
	No, it's very bothersome.
	That could happen to us.
	So let's start with...
	What's good about this little report I'm going to do, just pointing out Amy being a lousy reporter and newsreader, she's not even a good newsreader, is that we get a lot of news out of the way.
	She's not even cute.
	So let's start with, unfortunately I spelled it matorial, but it's the mayoral report because we need to know this.
	This is the mayoral report about New York.
	New York just had an election.
	It looks like they're going to put in a get-on-tough-on-crime cop into the mayor's office, but you don't know because they've decided to go with rank choice.
	What?
	Oh, wait.
	Is that in the report?
	What rank choice is?
	I don't know if they explain it well, but if they don't, I will.
	So let's go with report one.
	And New Yorkers voted in its highly anticipated primary election Tuesday.
	In the heated mayoral race, Brooklyn Borough President, former New York police officer Eric Adams, is leaving with over 31% of the vote.
	But it will likely take several weeks to announce a winner with the new ranked choice voting system.
	Civil rights attorney Maya Wiley is currently in second place with 22% of the vote, followed closely by former Sanitation Commissioner Catherine Garcia, 2020 presidential candidate.
	What is wrong with her esophagus?
	Well, we'll stop right there.
	And I'll mention that throughout all these clips, she is trying not to cough.
	And she does cough a couple of times.
	You'll hear it as we go along.
	And I can almost see the white strings in her mouth.
	She's trying to...
	She can't just hit the cough button.
	I don't know what it is, but she can't.
	Because she needs to cough badly.
	Yes.
	Just hearing her makes me want to cough.
	Take a lozenge, girl!
	2020 president?
	No, no, no, no.
	She's hammered.
	This is cottonmouth.
	I recognize it.
	That's what's going on.
	She's been smoking weed.
	Andrew Yang has conceded after receiving less than 12% of the tallied vote.
	Journalist Ross Barkin, who's written critically about Adams and other candidates, said he and other reporters were barred from Adams' election night party.
	Talk show host Curtis Sliwa has won the Republican nomination for New York City mayor.
	Okay.
	Now, I'm going to ask you a few.
	First of all, Curtis Sliwa, the Guardian Angels?
	Dude, he's back?
	He's been around for a while.
	I've known him from the 80s.
	They were the Hot 97 morning crew.
	After being guardian angels on the subway.
	So, what I don't understand, from the people who bring you democracy, democracy, our democracy is in danger.
	What is this ranked voting bowl crap?
	Well, we've had it in California for a number of years.
	In fact, we may have had it longer than anyone.
	Is this democracy?
	And what it is, is that you don't vote for someone.
	You vote first, second, and third.
	In New York, it's actually, you vote first, second, third, fourth, and fifth.
	Oh.
	And so the fifth place vote would get one point, and the first place vote would get five.
	It's like the Eurovision Song Contest.
	It could have a surprise ending.
	Yes, that's the idea.
	So you can get some communist in.
	Yes!
	Oh, okay.
	All right, cool.
	Now, you start to begin to see Amy's bigotry in the second clip, which is part two of this.
	And this is later in the show when they start to analyze this election, and they start talking about the cop who seems to be winning.
	He's actually one of the council members in one of the boroughs.
	But he's an ex-captain in the New York City Police Department, and he's bitching and moaning, and he's a black guy, and he wants to crack down on crime.
	The woman that they mention is a, I don't know, she's mixed race, but whatever she is, she's a communist.
	Oh, yes.
	No, I know.
	Yeah, the communist who's waiting in the wings.
	Yes, we know of her.
	The communist.
	And so the rank choice is designed to get her in somehow.
	Cool.
	We'll see.
	But let's listen to this because there's a little tidbit in here besides Amy's little bigotry that she throws out at the end is where she calls the guy out, this black guy out for being a Republican when he's not.
	Is the fact that all the boroughs, the main boroughs, the ones outlying boroughs, the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, all these places, vote for the black guy.
	And it was Manhattan.
	It was Manhattan that voted for the communists.
	Manhattan, where Whitey lives.
	So I'm beside myself with what's going on in New York.
	Something's really screwed up about it, but let's play this.
	And another part of Adams' political viewpoints that hasn't gotten as much coverage.
	He's a big supporter of charter schools, and he got...
	Millions of dollars in support from many billionaires who are also the charter school backers.
	So that remains to be seen how if he does survive in the final count, what his policies will be toward the public school system.
	Interestingly, Adams is leading in all the outer boroughs of New York City, while Catherine Garcia, the former sanitation commissioner, won the majority of the votes in Manhattan, where obviously the biggest white portions of New York's population are.
	So this is, it's going to be interesting to see.
	My sense is that Adams will probably prevail, but we don't know because we're in an uncharted territory when it comes to ranked choice voting.
	Just a few years ago, Adams had described himself as a conservative Republican.
	Yes, but having known Eric Adams for many years, as I've mentioned before, I think his conservative Republicanism was more a matter of convenience at that time, that he thought that he could get further within the Republican Party than the Democratic Party, because most of his policies, I would not consider them to be what we consider today Republican policies.
	Why did Amy jump in with the Republican?
	Does that mean it's like you have scurvy?
	Yeah.
	She's a creep in that regard.
	Now, maybe Garcia's not the communist, it's the other woman, but it's beside the point.
	This guy should get it, and it'll be very interesting to see him as mayor.
	So let's go on with some of Amy's other reports, and we'll have some discussions.
	Here is the 1619 Project.
	This is an interesting story.
	This is about how this 1619 author, who I think worked for the New York Times, and she wrote a book.
	She's the one that was denied tenure at the university?
	Yes, and here's the story, and the way it's played is very slanted and creepy.
	Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Nicole Hannah-Jones says she will not join the faculty.
	There it is!
	You know what?
	She didn't have to cough, bro.
	That's a hairball.
	That is a certified hairball, I heard.
	That has nothing to do with phlegm.
	She's a cat.
	Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Nicole Hannah-Jones says she will not join the faculty of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill next month.
	Without tenure.
	Hannah Jones, creator of the 1619 Project, says, quote, political interference and influence led to the school board's decision to deny her tenure, which drew protest and sharp criticism from faculty, students, fellow academics, and some donors.
	Wow!
	First of all, is this live?
	Does she do this show live?
	I don't know.
	I don't think it's live, is it?
	I don't know.
	It's live to tape.
	Why don't you just stop already and say, sorry, I need a moment, I need some water, something.
	This is bad.
	That was a good one.
	Okay, here's the...
	I have the ISO cuff if you want to play it.
	Yes!
	Yes, hold on.
	Of course I want...
	This will go on...
	Infamy!
	Okay.
	So she says it's drawn sharp criticism from some donors and some...
	Some!
	It's drawn plenty of praise, too.
	She puts it at the end as though, oh, this is a horrible affront and it's drawn sharp criticism from some.
	Some, yes.
	Well, technically correct.
	But it's unbalanced.
	She's terrible.
	Okay, let's go to clip two of this sort of bad reporting.
	Gag order.
	Bad reporting.
	An international coalition of over 200 groups is calling on the Biden administration to permanently end the so-called global gag rule, which bars nonprofits and other countries from receiving U.S. funds if they're provided by the government.
	Or a Democrat?
	Yes.
	Or anybody.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Yeah, well, that is interesting because it shows that the Democratic Party machine already knows that they're going to be on the losing end in 2024 and possibly 2022.
	Yeah, but it's the way she does that.
	But it's a false report.
	This is not true.
	She's just making it up.
	Why do you keep watching it?
	So I can do this?
	Hate watch?
	Mm-hmm.
	This is a hate watch.
	I qualify.
	Yep, you do.
	Okay, here's another one.
	This is the Hong Kong update.
	In Hong Kong, news outlet Apple Daily says it's shutting down less than a week after authorities raided its newsroom, arresting editors and executives of the pro-democracy paper, and froze its accounts under the sweeping national security law.
	Meanwhile, the trial for the first person to be charged under the national security law started today.
	Tang Ying Kit was arrested last year after he collided with police officers while riding a motorbike and flying a flag with a popular protest slogan.
	Does anything come to mind in that report?
	Maybe she should tell us what the slogan was?
	Or the flag?
	Either one would be nice.
	Well, the flag had the popular slogan.
	What was the slogan?
	I actually know what that slogan was.
	I'd be interested.
	What was it?
	Here it is.
	This is the full slogan.
	I think that's the slogan.
	You walk right into it.
	Walk into it!
	Come on.
	All right, here's another one.
	This is the story about the Iranian media, which we discussed earlier, which we're both concerned about.
	She's less concerned, it seems, but...
	But this story, again, this is another example of really bad reporting.
	The United States government has seized dozens of website domains linked to Iran, including state-owned presstv.com, a popular English-language news site.
	They also shut down Yemeni and Iraqi channels.
	Journalist and news host Rania Khalek tweeted, quote, if a country did this to U.S. media outlets, it would be seen as an act of war.
	War.
	China does it to us?
	All the time.
	Is it an act of war?
	All the time.
	Saudi Arabia does it to news sites.
	Is it an act of war?
	What was that thrown in at the end for?
	Why was it always some one source I've never heard of?
	I would say that it's not completely comparable.
	It's one thing to have a firewall and block access.
	It's another to take the domain name.
	I... I don't want to say act of war and nothing about that, but it's kind of apples to oranges.
	Just saying.
	All right, let's go to...
	I got two more and we're done.
	And I can just bitch all day.
	Here's a kind of, I don't know, this is a sketchier one, but this journalist bombed in Israel, and in tone she kind of implies that Israel's blowing up journalists with bombs, and we don't have any, there's no proof of this, it's possible, maybe it's the Mossad, we don't know.
	But she makes, you can hear the hint, because she's really a pro-Palestinian, she hates Israel.
	The Committee to Protect Journalists says Israel must investigate last week's bombing of Arab-Israeli journalist Hassan Shailan's home.
	Shailan, who writes for Ynet, survived the attack.
	The group says it's at least the third attack on an Arab-Israeli journalist in less than a month.
	I thought they were all warned.
	They all left the building beforehand.
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't know the story at all.
	It's just shallow, bad reporting.
	I got one extra one.
	This is Retrained Killers.
	Again, there's no data.
	I don't even know that this was known to such an extent.
	It's just a moderate slam.
	It may be kind of an interesting pickup, but again, more information would be useful.
	The New York Times reports four of the Saudi men who participated in the abduction and murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 received State Department-approved paramilitary training in the U.S. The training was provided by the security company Tier 1 Group, which is owned by the private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management.
	Private equity firm bad.
	You know who runs that private equity firm?
	The CEO. Who?
	Vice President Dan Quayle.
	Is that Quayle's operation?
	Yep.
	I thought he was the blood guy.
	No, no, no.
	Quayle is the Cerberus guy, I'm pretty sure.
	I looked into that.
	No, I'm...
	Ye of little faith.
	Let's see.
	Cerberus.
	I have my last clip after you find that.
	Now keep going.
	Okay, we'll play this last clip.
	This is the Ethiopia update, and I'm just going to suggest to anyone, if this is her report on Ethiopia, it's an update of what's going on, there's a little battle royale.
	If you listen to this report, what do you learn from In Ethiopia, Reuters reports dozens of people have been killed after an airstrike in the Tigray region.
	A bomb was reportedly dropped on a market Tuesday afternoon.
	Health workers are reporting Ethiopian military blocked several ambulances from reaching the scene.
	Thousands of people have been killed in the Tigray region since the Ethiopian military invaded last November with support from Eritrea.
	There have also been widespread reports of war crimes, including sexual violence.
	Aid groups warn millions in the region are at risk of famine.
	I really don't know what I learned there.
	You learned nothing.
	That's what I thought.
	If people want to know what's going on, there was actually a decent New York Times article called Why, and you can look it up, just don't subscribe, just put this in Google and find a copy of it.
	Why is Ethiopia at war with itself?
	And it talks about And I'll give you a quick rundown.
	This group, this Tigray People's Liberation Front, which actually began in the 70s as sort of a communist operation, representing the one ethnic minority of 6% of the country, has been nothing but troublemaking.
	And they attacked an arms cache, and they've done some stuff that they needed to be quashed.
	The guy who is the Prime Minister of Ethiopia, this Abbey Ahmad Ali, who just got the Nobel Peace Prize and he settled the dispute with Etreya, the border dispute, and he's kind of a peacemaker and seems to be a good guy, even though as you look at him he's got one of those funny, not a Fu Manchu, but that weird comic book guy, little goatee.
	And they've been trying to Calm the area because there's a famine going on.
	She says there's an upcoming famine.
	No, there's a famine in place as we speak.
	And they're trying to stabilize the place.
	The army is.
	And this is bullcrap.
	Her whole report is sexual this.
	And then she uses dropping...
	The way she put the words...
	The way she described the bomb dropping sounded like the barrel bomb description you got by Assad.
	You associated with Assad when you listen to her report.
	It sounded much more like Syria than this.
	She told us nothing about this.
	No details.
	And it's shameful.
	And the entire democracy now has turned into nothing more than just minor socialist propaganda.
	I should mention that the chief of the World Health Organization, Dr.
	Professor Herr Tedros, comes from the Ethiopian government.
	So immediately when you do this story, I'm looking for pipelines.
	Well, there could be some pipelines, but I will say this.
	This Abiy Ahmad Ali, the prime minister, actually used to be in the TPLF. So he knows what's going on.
	What's the TPLF? That's the Tigrayan...
	Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
	That's the guys.
	The Tigray People's Liberation Front.
	Mm-hmm.
	And when you have anybody with that name, you know, it's Marxist.
	Yes.
	By the way, Dan Quayle is the chairman of Cerberus Global.
	Okay, well, he's not the CEO. Technically, I was right.
	He was the CEO. They now have two co-CEOs, and Dan Quayle moved to chairman of the board.
	Well, now I'm thinking that that whole report was just a crocheted on Quayle and being a Republican after all.
	Could be.
	Oh, yeah, could be.
	All right, I'm done with this.
	Anyway, I was fed up.
	And there's my hate clips for the day.
	Good job on the hate clips.
	Since we are deconstructing the media, I have a couple of those clips as well.
	After the, what was her name?
	Heather, the weather girl slash human interest story reporter.
	Yes, right.
	Wait, but wait.
	There's another one!
	It's catching!
	It's a plague!
	Good evening and thanks for watching First Forecast.
	I'm meteorologist April Moss and happy Father's Day.
	Today we saw temperatures above normal again, topping out at 85 degrees at Metro Airport.
	Plenty of sunshine today, but all good things must come to an end.
	And that starts as early as tomorrow morning with showers moving in around 8 a.m.
	And speaking of a brand new week, I will be sitting down this week with Project Veritas to discuss the discrimination that CBS is enforcing upon its employees.
	Tune in to Project Veritas for my full story.
	Now, later Monday we will see those showers continuing through late morning.
	I love how these girls are doing this!
	It's like, and here's the weather.
	And by the way, I work for a bunch of douchebags.
	I'm blinking twice to let you know I'm held hostage.
	And the forecast for this weekend is beautiful.
	This is good.
	I think this could catch.
	Well, that's two.
	If there's two, there's going to be more.
	Now, what we have in addition is we have her boss calling her and reaming her out for this episode.
	Would you like to hear it?
	That happened?
	Yes!
	Yes!
	Of course it happened!
	Here we go.
	Hey Chuck.
	So I saw what you did on the air yesterday.
	Yes.
	You may get terminated for that.
	Are you aware of that?
	Yes, I am.
	Alright, so...
	So you're okay with that then?
	I understand if CBS decides to let me go.
	I do understand that.
	Why would you do that?
	You know, basically, that's the most selfish thing I've This is great.
	You and I, John, we often mess around about how it works at media companies.
	You're actually hearing one of these douchebags doing it.
	Yeah, suit.
	It's suit, and he's totally patronizing her.
	It's just, it's a head shaker.
	Without even a close second.
	Because you don't give a crap about anybody else, you know, and like if you get terminated, which you might, and then the burden is going to place on other people, you couldn't care less.
	It's just all about April Moss.
	Well, that's not true.
	That's very, very unfortunate.
	I mean, I know we've had some talks, you know, and all of that, but I didn't know that you were that kind of person.
	I'm not that kind of person.
	You are, April.
	You are.
	You're all about April and that's it.
	I'm April and here's my stance.
	Regardless of the burden this is going to put on anybody else.
	Well, I've tried to go through all of the direct channels.
	What do you think going on in the air and getting fired is going to do?
	Do you think that's going to change their rules?
	Well, it's not just CBS, but it's a lot of organizations and corporations across the country that are enforcing unfair standards on people.
	I can't believe you did that.
	I just can't believe it.
	Again, we had some chats offline and some texts, but to go on the air and just blatantly disregard Any protocols, you know, and again, place all of this burden on other people.
	You know, I mean, I'm going to recommend that you get terminated.
	I'm going to recommend that.
	I'm not going to stand up for you.
	Because that was as blatant as anything I've ever seen.
	Okay, but I've gone through all the natural channels with HR. I've sent them documentation stating that this is against federal law.
	I understand that.
	I saw all that email.
	So do you think that going on the air and saying something and getting fired is going to change anything?
	I mean, what could you possibly have thought would affect that would have other than you getting fired?
	I was hoping that they would understand and realize that enforcing these policies on people that are against federal law is not okay.
	So you're going to go on the air and say that and you think that they're going to say, oh, you know what, she's right.
	We're going to go ahead and change those now because she said it on the air.
	You really thought that?
	I was hoping there would be a change.
	No, there's not going to be.
	The only change is going to be on our weekend weather person.
	That's the only change.
	Okay.
	We should hire her for the morning zoo.
	You know, she was, I guess she, I don't know, what were the federal laws they're violating?
	Well, we'll know after she talks to Veritas, I presume.
	I'm very curious about that as well.
	And it sounded like he knew what federal laws she was talking about.
	Yeah, he knew and he didn't care.
	Yeah.
	He was more concerned with the embarrassment.
	Now, I think an enlightened...
	No, it was this guy.
	He wasn't the station manager, was he?
	I think he was.
	Well, then he'd be the one that would just fire her.
	Why does he have to propose they fire her?
	Who's they?
	I mean, to me, it sounded a bit like Michael Scott Dunder Mifflin.
	Dunder Mifflin.
	That's what it sounded like to me.
	Like, okay, yes.
	All right, Jan.
	That guy.
	Yeah, he has that quality.
	Now, if you were an enlightened station manager and this happened, first of all, you probably wouldn't have gotten to this point.
	Because her pleas would have been heard somewhere along the line, or at least she'd got a cover your ass memo from somebody.
	Saying they're looking into it.
	There's a million ways of doing it that they didn't do.
	Because they're arrogant.
	I think that's what he's pissed off about.
	Because she tried it and he just ignored her and said, go away, stupid news girl.
	And then she pulled this one.
	But I think an enlightened guy would have just let it slide.
	Who cares what she says?
	Yeah.
	Anyway, that was Detroit, CBS 62.
	Yeah.
	Another cool little media clip I got from Sir Brian of London.
	He sent this to me.
	Shark Tank was originally a British show called Dragon's Den.
	And if you'll remember, I got called by them when they were going to do the pilot.
	Not the Shark Tank, but Dragon's Den.
	I was living there at the time.
	And they said, you know, we'd really love to have you be one of the dragons, be on the show.
	I'm like, oh, that's great, except I have no money.
	So how does this work?
	Are you guys going to put up the money and then, you know, it's a real investment?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	You have to bring your own money.
	Well, I'm not going to do this.
	It sounds like a dumb idea for me, personally.
	So they do the show.
	It's highly successful.
	It gets spun off into the U.S. as Shark Tank.
	And now one of the original dragons, Rachel Elna, is on record explaining exactly how the show works.
	And now for you and I, John, not so surprising, but I think even people who watch Shark Tank here in the U.S. will go, oh crap, yep, yep, that's exactly what's going on here.
	Well, the thing about Dragon's Den that we didn't realise when we were filming it is that 95% of what was filmed ended up on the cutting room floor.
	And so it was so heavily edited and highly manipulated.
	And I realised afterwards that I was part...
	Of an education amongst the general public, and in particular children, about a very ruthless way of doing business which didn't reflect at all what was actually filmed.
	And so this hard-nosed, pinstriped, ruthless...
	Cutting business people.
	And actually, that wasn't the truth of the series at all.
	We were very supportive, helpful, giving marketing advice and tips.
	All that was cut in favour of the irritable...
	because they would send someone in and you all wanted to go home and they'd send in some disastrous person at 5.30 just to trigger you, you know, in a really hot studio.
	So it was very manipulated.
	And, of course, we sort of fell for it.
	So, yes, I do feel a little bit of shame around my responsibility in creating this persona, this archetype of business dragons.
	Yes.
	Which is not a true reflection of the real world of entrepreneurship.
	And she'll never work in television again.
	Well, she doesn't seem to be...
	No, she's not wanting for it.
	But it's always good to hear that.
	It's a good reminder.
	Yeah, that was good to hear.
	If you look at Shark Tank here...
	It's all the same.
	These reality TV shows, as, in fact, the guy who invented the whole notion, which is...
	What's his name?
	Trump's pal.
	The guy who did...
	Burnett.
	Burnett.
	Yeah.
	Mark Burnett.
	Mark Burnett.
	Who's kind of a weirdo if you've ever seen him in an interview, but he really dis...
	And he invented the genre, the entire reality TV genre.
	Not true.
	It was...
	Well, okay.
	It may or may not be true, but he's the one who popularized it in the United States with the island and a couple of other big shows.
	He had the big shows.
	Yes.
	He hated the moniker, because whether he invented it or not is beside my point.
	He hated the moniker...
	Reality TV because he said technically it should be called unscripted drama.
	Yeah.
	Because it was fiction.
	Yes.
	But it was unscripted fiction.
	And I, you know, they were filming one over at Mevio and, you know, they never aired anywhere, but I watched them and all they do is they suggest.
	You know, they film what you're doing and then you exaggerate what you're doing and then they...
	Can you do that again?
	Oh, all the time.
	All the time.
	Can you do that again?
	But can you throw something at the guy?
	Can you throw that cup at him?
	Throw it again.
	Throw that thing instead of the cup.
	He didn't even get anything on him.
	He didn't even get any liquid on him.
	Throw it again.
	Make sure this time you hit him in the chest at least.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the whole thing's fake.
	Mm-hmm.
	The last media-related clip comes from CNN-reliable sources, Brian Seltzerwater.
	And he had this woman on who was a media effect scholar.
	I didn't know this was a practice.
	It sounds so bogus.
	I'm a scholar.
	About what?
	Media effect scholar.
	Yes.
	In fact, I think we should take this title.
	I don't think it's stolen valor for us to say that.
	And I cut off his whole intro because he was talking...
	Well, what Tucker Carlson's doing is he's scaring his audience and it's really effective when he scares his audience.
	Tucker Carlson's scaring his audience.
	Hello!
	Hello!
	Media Effect Scholar?
	How does it work?
	Why does that work on the brain?
	You know, we've known, rhetoric scholars like me, have known since Aristotle that emotions are very persuasive.
	If you can tap into people's emotions, then you can get them to do, you know, what you want them to do.
	Media effects scholars talk about how fear appeals work through the television.
	And cognitive scientists have explained that it's actually your body's physiology.
	So your fight or flight response is when there's something dangerous that's in the area.
	Your body's physiology floods your brain with stress hormones, with adrenaline, with cortisol.
	And those take over the rational part of your brain, which hijacks your brain.
	They call it amygdala hijacking.
	Amygdala hijacking.
	Yes.
	Hello, pot.
	This is the kettle speaking.
	How tone deaf are these people?
	It's pretty bad.
	CNN giving us this report.
	As soon as she started talking, the first thing I thought of was the CNN listener that I saw, mentioned him earlier in the show, had blue gloves on, walked in and out of the sushi shop with this, oh, it's quenched up.
	That's right.
	Amygdalas hijacked left and right.
	I'm going to show my school by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, we do have a few people to thank for show...
	1358, baby.
	1358, and we're...
	We're pounding it home.
	Okay.
	Let's start.
	I'm trying to get the spreadsheet.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	Pounding it home.
	Pounding it home.
	Pounding the mouse.
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	Look for some late Father's Day call-outs.
	Ian Field, 100-UK. Justin Kangaser in Jacksonville, Florida.
	He's got a call-out.
	To Russell Akers, he's a big King Time listener and never donated.
	He's a douchebag caller.
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	And says, deduce this trash.
	I love John Bolton's mustache.
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	You've been deduced.
	5313 from him.
	John Gaynor, 5280.
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	And then the following people are $50 donors, and you'll notice it's a short list today.
	Hopefully Sunday it will pick up, even though it will be a day short.
	Matthew Grice, 50%.
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	Two people from Aptos.
	I wonder if they know each other.
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	You've been de-douched.
	That must be Elvira.
	What were they doing in Egypt?
	And last but not least, Jesus Allen in Austin, Texas.
	50 bucks.
	And we want to thank them and everyone else who contributed to this show.
	1358 made it all possible.
	A make good for Sir Colin, the friendly fat man.
	You'll recall he sent in a nice donation for the Father's Day special for his dad, Sir Arthur.
	I guess this is his note.
	He says, would you mind reading the following?
	Here we go.
	In the morning for Sir Colin, the friendly fat man, my brothers and I would like to wish our father, Sir Arthur, a very happy Father's Day.
	Thank you for being a great dad and for setting such a powerful example of what it is to be a father and a man.
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	And I was scanning down the spreadsheet this morning, and I saw, of course, a $3.33 donation caught my eye from Mike Solazzo.
	He says, today I broke my clavicle.
	I was being wheeled to my x-ray.
	There was a 33 on a smoke alarm on the ceiling.
	I took my next dose of Advil at 333.
	I am young.
	I can't afford a full donation.
	Please send some recovery karma if you can find it in your heart.
	Well, of course we can, son.
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	Broken clavicle karma.
	You've got karma.
	We break for clavicles.
	Hmm?
	I have a note from Dame Blackhammer.
	Who says, I wanted to verify my attention, my donation to the last show was to my husband, but they're keeping track of it.
	Also, yes, all of our nine human resources were born between January 2008 and 2019.
	Most of them are around 18 months apart.
	Wow, this woman's a hard worker.
	Yes.
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	Number four has the middle name Adam.
	No John yet.
	Baby number eight, our tiny princess Anastasia, only lived eight months off.
	If you want to see her story, you can find it on AnastasiaC.info.
	I guess it was a heartbreaker.
	My husband did most of the writing for that blog.
	He has talent.
	God bless.
	Also, another note from Andrew, producer Andrew, future night Sir Andrew.
	Listening to last week's podcast, you and Adam played a clip of a reporter talking about the University of Missouri working with scientists to look for COVID in wastewater and how they can detect different strains.
	I work at a wastewater treatment facility in southwest Minnesota, and we have been told the same thing.
	We have been sending 50 milliliter samples of our influent water to the University of Minnesota since COVID began.
	In the beginning, we were told that COVID transmission was possible through the water and that we had to wear full hazmat suits while cleaning the sewer lines.
	Two months or so into the pandemic, they changed their minds and said they were wrong.
	The virus was found in the wastewater, but it was dead, and we could not contract it.
	This is more kind of bullshit we have to deal with.
	At the start, the University of M only needed one 50-milliliter sample sent out per week to conduct their study to see the levels of COVID in the water.
	After a few months, they decided they needed 50 samples twice a week and a special 15 milliliter sample, a special sample once a week.
	They told us that the samples were used to test not only the levels, but now they were looking at the different strains of the virus.
	They have sent us data showing us levels and the strains a couple of times.
	But unfortunately, that paperwork goes to my superintendent.
	It's not shared, so I don't know much about it.
	Thanks for what we do.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Thank you all very much.
	Thanks to these outstanding producers.
	As you can tell, it's not just a donation segment.
	There's information.
	There's deconstruction.
	There's interesting things happening in people's lives who know what they're talking about, often professionals.
	That is the No Agenda Show, Gitmo Nation, produced by all the producers out in Gitmo Nation, and we really appreciate it.
	Also, thanks to everybody who came in.
	Under 50, we typically don't read any of them because of the anonymity cutoff at 50, but we had to pull in the 333 today.
	It seems like that was okay.
	If you want to participate, if you want to be a part of the production crew for episode 1359, please go to...
	Dvorak.org slash N. And everybody, a big goat karma to finish it off.
	You've got...
	Harma.
	It's your birthday, birthday Oh no much in love Our list for today, we have Anonymous congratulating her husband turning 48.
	We read that note earlier, very nice.
	Michael Lumpkin says happy birthday to his dad, who turned 61 today.
	Christine, Dame of Moongate, happy birthday to Sir Gary Zachman, turns 57.
	And we just heard her, the hot Russian fiancée, Elvira Kusen-Toba, actually to her Dutch husband, so she's the wife.
	He turns 40 on July 3rd.
	Happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	Yes, it's fun!
	No title changes today, but we do have, let me see, we've got crazy names.
	Let me see, Karis, James, oh man, some real long names I'm going to have to be working on.
	So give me a really long blade, John.
	Here you go, the long one.
	Whoa, it's long.
	Seth Harper, step on up.
	And Karis Rehoy.
	Both of you are joining that exclusive club, the Knights and Dames of the No Agenda Roundtable, today thanks to the amount of $1,000 or more donated by you or on your behalf.
	And I am proud to pronounce the K-T-S-S-R-S-E-F, the Mountain Knight, and Dame K-J-A-F-F, K-J-A-F-F, the Cock, Queen of the Kingdom of Kent, the Real Ales Ways, and the Extended Cock Universe.
	Oh, my God.
	For you, Hookers and Blow, Brent Boys and Chardonnay, Pepperoni Rose and Pappy Van Winkle.
	It's collectible, you know.
	Geishas and sake, ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, vodka and vanilla.
	Of course, breast milk and pablum.
	Or, yes, the mutton and mead.
	That's what you really want.
	I know you're here for the mutton and mead.
	And the sealing wax to stick on your sealing tiles.
	Go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Eric the Shield will gladly hook you up, and that means he'll take your address for the hookup, and he'll be sending you the ring, your sealing wax, and your official certification.
	Post that on the Mastodon.
	Post at Federate.
	Tag me at adam at noagendasocial.com.
	We'd love to boost it.
	No agenda meetups.
	It's going to be a real busy summer.
	Lots of meetups taking place all around the globe.
	We've got a long list to run through today.
	But first, a report from the Tacoma, Washington meetup.
	It is June 18th and we are all here in Tacoma, Washington at the Lightning and Thunder meetup.
	I'm here with a bunch of douchebags.
	You two stay safe out there.
	This is Ryan.
	I have my first meetup.
	It's a lot like having a real family.
	Here's my smoking hot wife.
	Hola, Johnny Adam!
	Thank you for making these happen.
	Por la mañana!
	Por la mañana!
	Job D. I'm here with a new listener, my fiancée Taylor.
	Hi, this is Taylor.
	I'm a new listener.
	I tried to resist listening to your guys' show, but I finally accepted my entire reality as crumbling around me, and now I can't stop listening, so thanks, guys.
	In the morning, this is Rachel, and I am the winner of driving the longest to get to this meetup.
	So we're here at the Tiki Bar.
	I have my Mezcal Negroni.
	Pinky out.
	In the morning, boys!
	In the morning to you.
	And here's a report from Minnesota.
	Producer Ryan here with a summer solstice in Minneapolis meetup report for Monday, June 21st.
	18 human resources were charged up in attendance at the Route 47 Pub and Grub in Fridley, Minnesota Nuts.
	This is Teresa, my hand radio call sign, November Sierra, 9th Charlie, NS9C. In the morning.
	In the morning, John.
	In the morning.
	In the morning.
	Sir Golo, thank you for your courage.
	This is Josh Boomshakalaka.
	This is Boo Berry.
	Can't spell the new normal without NWO. This is Bubzing, and I'll fight you naked.
	Oh, hey, this is Christopher from Menominee.
	And this is Chris Laderelle, originally from Edina.
	No, John, it's called Edina, but now living in Germany.
	In the morning.
	This is Ryan.
	Thanks, old Biden.
	This is Daryl.
	What up?
	It's AJ. Love is lit.
	Joe Nelson, have to be here.
	Mr.
	Dean, happy to be here.
	In the morning, this is Producer Ron.
	You may recommend ice me for being the one to tell you to donate to a No Agenda.
	Sure.
	And this is Elliot.
	In the morning!
	Ah, good report there from Minnesota nuts.
	Here's what's on the calendar.
	We've got a lot happening on Saturday.
	The San Francisco Oakland Edition meetup censored for your safety unmasked at 3.33pm.
	You should go.
	It's at the BART station, John.
	You'll be hanging out there anyway on Saturday, won't you?
	Where's this meetup?
	Is it the BART station?
	No, it's going to be at Arthur Max Tap and Snack, but you meet at the BART MacArthur station.
	Saturday as well, Salt Air Slaves of the Tampa Bay, 3 o'clock at Ketch's Waterfront Grill.
	I would presume that would be in Florida.
	Saturday, another one, North Arizona Meetup, 3.33 p.m.
	at Williams Visit Center.
	We have the ITM Slaves and Coffee Alliance in Fort Worth, Texas on Saturday at Arnie's Pub and the Club at Fossil Creek.
	Sunday, The Truth wants to go out, not come out, but go out, Franklin, Tennessee, at the Bunga Nut Pig.
	The Bunga Nut Pig.
	I like that.
	And then on Monday, this Ann Arbor, Michigan Local 1, We Survived Monday at Anthony's Gourmet Pizza.
	Now, here's what's happening in July.
	I'm going to run down the list.
	July 1st, Sacto, California.
	Now, the 2nd through the 4th is Reis Friesland in the Netherlands.
	This is the big government-approved...
	It's really a weekend, and you were able to book a cheap-rated hotel there.
	I think there's between 30 or 40 people who are going to stay.
	It was approved by the government as a business convention when COVID still had everybody locked down.
	That will be raised.
	I think the restrictions are gone on June 30th.
	So you're not restricted, but the meetup is taking place, and people are very excited about it.
	July 2nd, Houston, Texas.
	The 3rd, Franklin, Tennessee.
	The 4th, Ketchikan, Arkansas, and Greater Idaho, and Dubrovnik in Croatia.
	Go see that one.
	That'd be fun.
	July 10th, Montreal, Quebec.
	Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
	Anchorage, Alaska.
	The 11th, Fort Myers, Florida.
	Charleston, South Carolina.
	Durham, North Carolina.
	It's the Carolina meetup off.
	Victoria, B.C. in Scandinavia on July 14th, the 15th in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Fredericksburg, Virginia on the 17th.
	Houston, Texas and Dallas, Texas and Chesapeake Bay all on the 17th.
	July 18th, Chicago, Illinois.
	The 19th, Santa Cruz, California.
	The 23rd, Port Matilda in Pennsylvania.
	The 24th, Eastern, Central, North Carolina.
	Meetup.
	The 24th as well.
	Long Beach, California.
	Minnesota returns on July 24th.
	And looking at August, we even see Boston lined up for August 7th.
	This is going to be a great summer.
	Hang out with people who won't trigger you.
	You can't trigger them.
	It's just a good time to be had by all.
	It's the No Agenda Meetups.
	If you can't find one near you at noagendameetups.com, Oh, what a concept.
	Start one yourself.
	No agenda meetups.
	They're like a party.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Triggered on hell's flame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Alright I have the ISO you would expect from me.
	And they call it amygdala hijacking.
	Kind of expect that one, but it's not that great.
	No, it's not.
	Well, I have a hem.
	Yeah, I like it.
	We already know about the cough.
	Okay.
	What else you got?
	I have fat.
	Do you struggle with belly fat?
	Where'd you pick that one up?
	It's just one of those...
	I'm going on YouTube to get some clips and then they have these stupid ads.
	I picked it off one of those ads.
	I like it.
	And then I got pleasure.
	Okay, pleasure.
	My pleasure.
	Hmm.
	I'm thinking maybe...
	We could do something like this.
	Let me see if I can do this here.
	What if we...
	I wonder if we took those two Amy's, because I think it's Amy, right?
	Yep.
	The cough and the...
	So what if it's like...
	It's a little Fauci in there.
	If you think you can pull it off, I'm all in.
	Okay, I think I can.
	Let me see.
	It's always fun to do these.
	Okay, so the first one is the ahem, and then the cough is...
	Yeah, I think I could try.
	You know, what do we got to lose, man?
	Listeners?
	Hey, man, we've got listeners to lose?
	Okay.
	Anything else before we get out of here?
	I do have a couple of things.
	I either got the Biden on gun control, which has a funny little finish to it.
	It's an 18 and a 32nd combined, two of them.
	I also have a rap for Britney, which everyone's talking about.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	I don't want to talk about that.
	Good.
	But I do have the funny clip, which is the Kamala poverty, I think is a gaffe.
	Let's do Biden guns and then Kamala.
	Okay.
	NPR.
	President Biden today unveiled new steps aimed at curtailing gun violence in the U.S., including sweeping measures aimed at stemming the flow of firearms used in crimes.
	Emerging from a meeting with stakeholders at the White House, the president says he's asking the Justice Department to go after those who provide weapons illegally to criminals.
	Yeah, this is great.
	Nothing's working, so what are we going to talk about?
	Guns!
	And then they have stakeholders somehow.
	What's the stakeholder?
	I don't know.
	Stakeholder capitalism.
	But then they say, they're going to stop...
	If you listen to this clip, it says they're going to...
	They want to crack down on people giving guns to people or some stupid thing that's already against the law.
	Yeah, it's like the gun show loophole or whatever they call it.
	Well, no, then that's bogus.
	There is no such thing.
	I know you can't sell from the gun show.
	I know.
	I know.
	No, it's stupid.
	There's no gun show loophole.
	It's talking about getting people to stop selling guns.
	I don't know what it was, but it's bull crap.
	And let's listen to part two where they top it off with a redhead coming out to say the dumbest things she could possibly say.
	Today the department is announcing, as I just did, the major crackdown on the stem of the flow of guns used in violent crimes.
	It's zero tolerance for gun dealers who willfully violate key existing laws and regulations.
	Biden said his latest request builds on executive orders.
	He signed in April the deal with so-called ghost guns.
	Those are weapons assembled using unmarked parts.
	And Biden called on Congress to do more.
	The White House says homicides rose 30 percent and gun assaults rose 8 percent in large cities last year.
	Well, there is some coded stuff in there that you may be unaware of.
	I didn't get the redhead in there.
	Where's my redhead clip?
	I thought the dude was a redhead.
	See, I'm not biased like you.
	Pusaki.
	Oh, Pusaki.
	There is something going on.
	This new guy over at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, I think he's reclassifying gun parts.
	Yeah, they're trying to...
	I don't know how they're going to deal with that.
	Well, they're just trying to rename the parts and say, oh, no, you can't have that.
	They're scrambling.
	They're scrambling.
	Okay, I do it to play this.
	This is the infrastructure.
	It's only 50 seconds.
	On how they're going to pay, they're getting close with this infrastructure bill, and then Psaki comes on and says the stupidest thing I can imagine.
	The White House says it is making headway in negotiations on President Biden's massive infrastructure proposal.
	NPR's Windsor Johnston reports a group of bipartisan senators this week said they closed the gaps on how to spend nearly $1 trillion bill, but they're still working on how to pay for it.
	President Biden has proposed raising the corporate tax rate to offset the cost of the spending, but Republicans have flat-out rejected that.
	Lawmakers have also floated the idea of raising the gas tax.
	White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki says to the President, the bottom line is clear.
	The choice for him on the pay-fors is, are you going to ask Americans who are just trying to go to work, just trying to drive their cars to work, drop their kids off at school, to pay more through a gas tax?
	Or should the wealthiest Americans pay what they owe in taxes?
	Did you hear what she just said?
	Yes.
	As if they don't pay taxes?
	She said, wealthiest Americans should pay what they owe.
	Are they not paying what they owe?
	Well, if I may...
	That's what she implies.
	Yes, if I may, I just want everyone to understand the talking points.
	It's part of the old, Warren Buffett pays less in taxes than his secretary!
	Maybe that's true, but he pays what he owes.
	She's saying that they don't even pay what they owe.
	And if that is true, then just like they would do to you or I, there should immediately be handcuffs.
	Arrested.
	Arrest them.
	That's right.
	She says they're not paying what they owe.
	What is she talking about?
	This is bull crap.
	Let's listen to that last bit again.
	To pay more through a gas tax?
	Or should the wealthiest Americans pay what they owe in taxes?
	Yeah.
	But this is what they do.
	This is the lie.
	This is the lie about the guns.
	It's the lie about everything.
	It's the lie about the racist voter suppression, anti-black and brown community voting laws of Texas that they're, oh my god, we're just a bunch of KKKers over here.
	Yeah, that's another big lie, this bullcrap.
	All I want is an ID is really what it reminds me of.
	We want an ID. Exactly.
	This Kamala Gaff is another big lie, so let's just play it and we're done as far as I'm concerned.
	The American Rescue Plan, and here's the drumroll, the American Rescue Plan will lift half of America's children out of poverty.
	Applause And I'm going to say that again.
	Half of America's children will be lifted out of poverty.
	Does that mean that they're all in poverty?
	Yeah, that's what she's implying.
	That's what she said.
	That all American children are in poverty.
	Wow.
	Well, I don't think this has ever happened, but just as we're about to say goodbye, you definitely nailed it.
	You clinch it.
	Clip of the day.
	Good job, man.
	That was beautiful.
	Well, thank you.
	I'll take it.
	That was beautiful.
	And y'all are beautiful, producers of the No Agenda Show.
	Y'all are so beautiful.
	We'll return on Sunday.
	One day before we're out, man.
	It's getting crazy.
	It may start to sound boomy and echoey here in the studio as everything is getting packed up.
	Up next on noagendastream.com, we have Bowl After Bowl.
	Those guys are big on the podcasting 2.0.
	Make sure you get a podcast app you can boost them with.
	They're leading the charge there.
	End of show mixes.
	We've got Audio Ghosts with Dane Geek Squared in a beautiful duet.
	We've got Sir Lou the Shoe, as promised.
	And we've got Sound Guy Steve.
	And I'm coming to you from...
	Operative Zone 33 here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas.
	It is FEMA region number 6 on the governmental maps.
	Hey, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday.
	Remember us at dvorak.org slash na.
	Until then, adios, mofos!
	And such.
	What the hell was that all about?
	Oh, I knew it was going to happen.
	You didn't know it?
	You didn't know that the flash was going to expire?
	No, I knew about it because they kept flashing it on half of the things I have that are, you know, functional.
	Take my way after that again, why are you fucked?
	Hey, hey.
	Mm-hmm.
	What?
	I'm the Simp.
	I'm the Simp.
	The Adobe Kim.
	You got a great flash by the wind.
	I'm the Simp.
	The Adobe Kim.
	You got a great flash by the wind.
	Years and years and years and years.
	The Adobe Kim.
	You got a great flash by the wind.
	Years and years and years and years.
	The Adobe Kim.
	You got a great flash by the wind.
	I'm the Simp.
	The Adobe Kim.
	You got a great flash by the wind.
	I'm the Simp.
	The Adobe Kim.
	You got a great flash by the wind.
	Years and years and years.
	You want a great flash by the wind.
	You want McAvee.
	Why they wait.
	Why they wait.
	You want McAvee.
	I want McAvee.
	You want McAvee.
	McAvee.
	You want McAvee.
	I'm so glad I'm excited.
	I'm always excited.
	We have time for one more question.
	Okay, one more question.
	Last question is, do you know John C. Dvorak used to write for PC Magazine?
	Of course I do.
	Apparently you owe him a lunch.
	That motherfucker owes me way more than a goddamn lunch, alright?
	No, no.
	Every time he brings you up, he's like, John McAfee, he owes me a lunch, but I was wondering...
	Fuck that shit.
	He owes me a good article, as a matter of fact.
	I know you all know, but a lot of people may not know what COVID is.
	If you haven't, you'll get it.
	And we are committed to follow on, to do some significant work, including not only how we deal with the distribution, but how we're going to deal with putting together a mechanism to anticipate and deal with and be aware of the next pandemic when it comes along.
	We have to build a system.
	Whereby we can know when we see another pandemic.
	There will be future pandemics.
	The bottom line is I was very pleased with the outcome of the COVID-19.
	Baby, when I met you, it was pandemic.
	It seemed like the ending of the human race.
	I was pre-infected, soon to be another case.
	You did something to me that I can't explain.
	At first it didn't hurt me, now I feel such pain as the vaccine spread from a little cat in my heart.
	Viruses are blind.
	It requires a medication.
	Only preventable by asphyxiation.
	Let's take it together.
	Chat, chat.
	But you're signaling each other.
	Po-po.
	Eyes are in my dreams.
	Every time I sleep.
	Keep away from me, for at least two weeks So we wait six months, cause we're all the slaves So we can hide in our houses, uh-uh From one booster to another, uh-uh The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.

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