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April 26, 2020 - No Agenda

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	What makes you think you know more than the experts in Washington, D.C.? What makes you think you know more?
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, April 26, 2020.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 1237.
	This is No Agenda.
	Boop and Bleach and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the traffic is light once again, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Of course it's light.
	You're on mandatory lockdown.
	You're not allowed to drive.
	You can't drive, slave.
	Be quiet.
	We're media folk, so we're...
	That's right.
	We are, yes.
	What's the actual term?
	Media services.
	No, no, no.
	It's necessary.
	No, necessary personnel.
	Necessary.
	It's not first responders, but it's below that.
	It's like grocery work.
	We're on par with checkout girls.
	Yeah, checkout.
	Essential.
	Essential.
	Essential personnel.
	That's what it is.
	Now I got it.
	Essential personnel.
	And just to make sure everybody is in line with the vibe, like every other big broadcast organization and advertiser, I think we should start with a little aperitif that sets you in the mood for these times and vibes.
	Since 2007, the No Agenda Show has been with you.
	We're a part of your life, your family, and our tribe.
	We've deconstructed the media with your amygdala's health in mind.
	Now, in this time of crisis, we need each other more than ever.
	Your friends and neighbors who still live in Dimension B need to be hit in the mouth.
	Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak are a shining light in this time of darkness.
	We're here for you.
	Don't be a douchebag.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA and make a donation.
	Today.
	Do it for your pop pop.
	Now let's all have some gratuitous applause for the frontline healthcare workers who are entertaining us so much on TikTok.
	There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Yes.
	Now we're in the mood.
	Thank you, Dave Jennifer.
	I do have to do a little housekeeping, a little pre-announcement for anyone of our artists that are listening.
	Any art that has a picture of Bill Gates on it is rejected by me automatically.
	I don't know if...
	Well, luckily, the art generator's back up again.
	Now, what happened?
	There's a whole bunch of problems.
	We've been attacked by the Chinese.
	It's so obvious.
	We're like the only podcast that's hounding the Chinese for taking over the media.
	They're trying to put us out of business.
	They took the website down yesterday.
	They took Cosmic Weenie down.
	Yep.
	Then, next thing you know, the art generator's down.
	I don't know if Mark had any issues, but they're a little harder.
	No, Mark has everything all set.
	He's aware of it, hasn't seen anything.
	That's void zero, by the way.
	The art generator was down.
	NA Show Notes, which is interesting because that's an Amazon S3 bucket.
	I doubt they were taking Amazon down, but maybe Amazon had to reroute or something so that it would take a while, it wouldn't always connect.
	That was very odd.
	So, I think you're right, and as preposterous as it sounds, It is.
	It really sounds preposterous, but that was the first thing that popped into my head.
	Who is doing this?
	It's not someone from Reddit who just hates us.
	You've got to get an actual...
	They'd rather bitch and moan.
	You've got to get a bot network running and stuff.
	There's too much work.
	Exactly.
	It's much more fun to post under multiple accounts instead of DDoSing someone.
	You've got to get a botnet set up.
	So maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
	It was very odd, though.
	Yeah, big player.
	By the way, the CDC and World Health Organization are now recommending, in addition to face masks and gloves, that we should all wear blindfolds to protect us from seeing what's really going on.
	I think that is a good recommendation.
	It's probably not a bad idea.
	But the machine finally got some feed.
	It got some bleach.
	The big, massive media machine, finally, finally they got one that they could just vilify the president over.
	Two, three, four, five, six.
	Six for the Zephyr.
	We're down.
	We're down, ladies and gentlemen.
	But didn't we have a Fiverr?
	No, the Fiverr was going the other way.
	It was some other train.
	Okay.
	But six is the...
	Well, except for no Zephyr, six cars is the economic indicator for today.
	Yeah.
	Not great.
	I'm really happy...
	I saw your clip list.
	I'm really happy you got Dr.
	Erickson.
	I definitely want to get to that, and I'm glad you did that.
	Well, before we do anything, can I play this one clip?
	Because this is an outlier...
	Because I'm listening to this clip.
	It's off of Al Jazeera.
	And I have not heard any of this.
	The big meeting of all the G7 and the G20s are all going to get together and they're going to form one world government.
	Really?
	They're going to do this.
	They're going to do that.
	They had Angela Merkel was at the meeting and she's on the screen trying to talk.
	And I'm listening to this globalist pitch and I'm saying, why has our media specifically And the hint has already been delivered earlier.
	Why is our media completely ignoring this information?
	This is the unknown globalist pitch.
	It's being called a landmark collaboration.
	The World Health Organization, heads of government and research bodies came together to coordinate the fight against COVID-19.
	They've pledged to work together to find a vaccine and make sure everyone has equal access to treatments and diagnostic tests.
	But the United States isn't taking part.
	President Donald Trump has accused the WHO of mishandling the crisis.
	We'll bring in our guests in a moment to discuss the challenges ahead.
	First, this report from our diplomatic editor, James Bates.
	It's just the place you would have expected in previous times to have seen US leadership.
	A global crisis and world leaders coming together with a response.
	The idea of this event to coordinate the search for a vaccine, testing and treatments for COVID-19 and to make sure all are widely available.
	The world needs these tools and it needs them fast.
	Past experience has taught us that even when tools are available, they have not been equally available to all.
	We cannot allow that to happen.
	A world free of COVID-19 requires the most massive public health effort in history.
	Data must be shared, production capacity prepared, resources mobilized, communities engaged, and politics set aside.
	I know we can...
	Is this the vaccine Bin Laden?
	Who is this guy with this?
	No, that's the head of the UN. Oh my god, he sounds like a terrorist on a shitty video.
	He sure does.
	Data must be shared, production capacity prepared, resources mobilized, communities engaged, and politics set aside.
	I know we can do it.
	I know we can put people first.
	Leaders spoke from all regions of the world.
	Technically bringing them all together was a bit of a challenge.
	Your Excellency, you have the floor.
	Can you hear me now?
	Yes, yes, we can hear you.
	Okay.
	Germany, one of four members.
	That sounds just like Tracy Ullman doing an Angela Merkel bit.
	That's fantastic.
	Hello, hello, can you hear me?
	If I was Obama, I liked him so much better.
	Your Excellency, you have the floor.
	Can you hear me now?
	Yes, yes, we can hear you.
	Okay.
	Germany, one of four members of the G7 group of countries that were represented.
	We're now going to continue to mobilise all countries of the G7 and the G20 for them to back this initiative.
	I hope that we will be able to reconcile this initiative with China and the US because the fight against COVID-19 is a common good for humanity.
	There shouldn't be any divisions between countries.
	We need to join forces to win this battle.
	Yeah, I've noticed this as well.
	All the plans of the global New World Order type elite peeps have been activated.
	Yes, but interesting to me though is the media non-reaction to this because this is an opportunity to pound Trump.
	Trump's not working with the rest of the world.
	We should be leading.
	They kind of indicated that in this report.
	When the United States should be leading, they're not even there.
	And so I'm thinking to myself, how do you miss this opportunity to pat down Trump?
	And it dawned on me.
	They got bleach!
	It dawned on me.
	That's the best they can do.
	So it dawned on me, what's influencing their coverage?
	China.
	Who else is not at this meeting?
	China.
	China not at the meeting?
	China?
	No, they bailed too.
	So we and China were the two big ones that were left out, that were out of this.
	That's interesting.
	I didn't realize that.
	Yes, that's why.
	So the Chinese, if we're trying to argue that they're controlling the media, here's an opportunity to bash Trump, but they can't do it because China's also not in.
	I'm just reading the Reuters blurb about this.
	French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, South African President Cyril Ramaphosa were among those who joined the video conference.
	It doesn't even say that both of them were.
	I think you're right.
	Leaders from Asia, the Middle East, and Americas also joined the video conference, but several big countries did not participate.
	China, India, and Russia.
	So that's, and the US, that's, you got some, Russia's not that big, but China and India, hello?
	Well, China's not in the G, I'm sorry, Russia's not in the G7. Well, they got kicked out.
	Yeah.
	So the three that were missing were India, China, and the United States.
	Yeah.
	And for the four other New World Order types, they were all in.
	Well, that's what it holds true.
	It's the elites.
	I think it's the World Economic Forum guys.
	Yeah.
	Because I'm looking at their COVID action platform.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is weforum.org.
	Oh, yeah.
	Here we go.
	I'll just read the headlines of the three main projects they have on their COVID action platform.
	3D printing manufacturers for rapid response initiative.
	Advancing global digital content safety.
	Content needs to be safe.
	This is a good one.
	Online content has the power to influence minds, incite action and shape the fabric of society.
	What is posted and shared on digital platforms has proliferated substantially, leading to questions of how harmful content should be governed to uphold the safety of society while considering diverse stakeholder interests and responsibilities across the media ecosystem.
	Whoa!
	So the World Economic Forum, these people, want to develop a public-private cooperation and principles for online content moderation, including basic standards to define harmful content.
	Harmful!
	It's going to hurt you.
	Those words will come and slice you.
	So that's the second one.
	The third one is value in media.
	The fourth industrial revolution has changed the way content is produced, distributed, and consumed for media companies, brands, and individuals.
	Oh, God.
	What do they want to do here?
	They're trying to take over the Internet.
	Yes, and they're trying to figure out here.
	This project, Value in Media, has spent a year looking at how individual consumers value destination media.
	Hell's destination media.
	Fucking bad Madison Avenue pitch is what it is.
	It has analyzed business model strategies in the media industry, studied the extent to which these strategies align with people's preferences around payment and data management, and discussed...
	This is stupid.
	You're not the future.
	Elite.
	But yeah, that's what they've done.
	They've done that.
	They did the call.
	No one's paying attention.
	I think you give certainly the U.S. media, which is important since a lot of the research is coming out of the U.S. for this.
	Although every country has their favorite virologist.
	Everybody has their Fauci.
	Everybody's got their different people to love or to hate.
	But the bleach shit that went down, since it happened Thursday right after the show, of course...
	That was it.
	That was the actual shark jump of the media to go all in on this.
	But what was sad about it is that...
	And then Biden tweets it.
	What was sad about it is that the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, William Bryan, which was the catalyst to these comments, which I will play so at least everyone's heard them instead of just what you think you heard or the headline you read.
	He had some very interesting information, which really wasn't covered because of the whole injecting bleach and UV light up your anus.
	And it's like, okay, mainstream, we got you.
	So here's the acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, and he had enough short...
	Hold on, I said, stop, stop, stop.
	I think we've jumped into the bleach thing.
	You have to give a little background on this.
	I'm leading you into it.
	It's called a path.
	Well, the path, yeah, but you're...
	Okay.
	No.
	In order to understand what happened, you need to hear it in context.
	If you just hear Trump for 30 seconds talking about injecting some kind of detergent...
	Right, but I think there's people that don't even know he did that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Holy shit!
	Are you kidding me?
	I'm not kidding you.
	Okay.
	Then I will give you a better...
	Okay.
	This guy, the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, came on with Trump on Thursday.
	And it was, I think, a very dumb idea to do it.
	But I appreciate the effort to say, hey, I'm bringing this guy in.
	They've been looking at a couple of interesting data points.
	No more or less...
	Well, actually less interesting than hydroxychloroquine at first brush.
	But I'm just giving you something to think about.
	And the guy goes through a couple of interesting things.
	The one is the susceptibility to temperature.
	This has been a conversation that we've been wondering about.
	Does this thing die?
	Anyway, so then he goes into ultraviolet light, he goes into disinfectants, and then the president comments on what he just heard.
	And that turned into this huge media storm.
	I'm surprised if anyone hasn't.
	This was around the world in every language.
	And they even translated bleach to Clorox in Europe.
	I mean, come on.
	Everybody was on this.
	But here's the stuff that you missed.
	Because this virus does not do well in heat.
	And we're talking 70 to 75 degrees.
	Not even warm, certainly by Texas standards.
	And today, I would like to share certain trends that we believe are important.
	Our most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus, both surfaces and in the air.
	We've seen a similar effect with both temperature and humidity as well, where increasing the temperature and humidity or both is generally less favorable to the virus.
	So let me illustrate with this first slide.
	He's going to talk about half-life.
	I cut all that out.
	Half-life is basically you get a number.
	That means in that number of hours, the virus will have died by 50%, and then it'll die by another 50% in the same amount of hours.
	So you kind of calculate how long it's living.
	So if you look at an 18-hour half-life, what you're basically saying is that every 18 hours, the virus, the life of the virus is cut in half.
	So if you start with 1,000 particles of the virus, in 18 hours, you're down to 500.
	In 18 hours after that, you're down to 250, and so on and so forth.
	That's important as I explain the rest of the chart.
	If you look at the first three lines, when you see the word surface, we're talking about non-porous surfaces, door handles, stainless steel.
	And if you look at it as the temperature increases and as the humidity increases with no sun involved, you can see how drastically the half-life goes down on that virus.
	So the virus is dying at a much more rapid pace just from exposure to higher temperatures and just from exposure to humidity.
	If you look at the fourth line, you inject the sunlight into that.
	You inject UV rays into that.
	The same effects on line two at 70 to 75 degrees with 80% humidity on the surface.
	And look at line four, but now you inject the sun.
	The half-life goes from six hours to two minutes.
	So, you know, we had 90 degrees the other day.
	There's nothing left of this virus here, if it was outside.
	And in fact, what really turns out, if you look at the whole presentation this guy made, is you, you personal human being outside instead of inside, with sunshine, gives you a much better chance of not even getting it.
	But then we have to go to the disinfectants.
	And I think what happened here is that the President had gotten a briefing.
	He got the briefing.
	There's a lot of UV light projects, by the way.
	Yes, also for the body.
	It's not completely crazy.
	That's why people aren't busting him on it.
	But if you listen to what the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security says...
	It sounds like there was a previous conversation about some kind of disinfectant, some kind of oral disinfectant.
	So let's listen to that and then we'll get into what the president actually said.
	We're also testing disinfectants, readily available.
	We've tested bleach, we've tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva.
	I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in 5 minutes.
	Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds.
	And that's with no manipulation.
	No rubbing.
	Just spraying it on and leaving it go.
	You rub it and it goes away even faster.
	We're also looking at other disinfectants.
	Specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus.
	He's reconfirming the old theory.
	Tito's vodka.
	Kind of.
	But he specifically mentions it on the tongue and in saliva.
	We're also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.
	This is not the end of our work as we continue to characterize this virus and integrate our findings into practical applications to mitigate exposure and transmission.
	So twice he mentioned saliva and the tongue, so maybe there's something there.
	I don't know.
	No one asked him any questions about it, of course.
	And just wait until the president finds out that vaping is propylene glycol, which has been proven to kill specifically coronaviruses in missed form.
	Wait until Trump starts talking about that.
	If you vape, you won't die.
	So right out of this presentation, in fact, I even left the guy's thank you word in here.
	You'll hear exactly what the president said after listening to this and apparently some secret briefing he received.
	And there was no, there was really nothing, there wasn't even a follow-up question at the time in the room.
	This is not the end of our work as we continue to characterize this virus and integrate our findings into practical applications to mitigate exposure and transmission.
	I would like to thank the president.
	Thank the Vice President for their ongoing support and leadership to the department and for their work in addressing this pandemic.
	I would also like to thank the scientists not only in S&T and the NBAC, but to the larger scientific and R&D community.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	So there's still a question that probably some of you Okay, so pay attention, everybody.
	This is the piece that got the media telling you in headlines that the president said you should inject bleach.
	A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting.
	So, supposing we hit the body...
	With a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very...
	By the way, he's talking to the guy offstage as he's doing this.
	Powerful light.
	And I think you said that hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it.
	And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.
	And I think you said you're going to test that, too.
	Sounds interesting.
	And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute.
	One minute.
	And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
	Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number in the lungs.
	So it would be interesting to check that.
	So that you're going to have to use medical doctors with.
	But it sounds interesting to me.
	So we'll see.
	But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that's pretty powerful.
	Steve, please.
	So, okay, and then somehow this gets turned into this huge frenzy, which I don't give a shit, and I know I'm defending the president, which...
	Oh, no, you're defending the president!
	Yes, please write me lots of emails.
	But in this case...
	The media was so preoccupied and so politicized, now it's all political, that they miss important information and really didn't put any of that out there, in particular about the temperature.
	The temperature is important, but...
	Trump wants you to inject bleach.
	This whole thing came to a crescendo last night, at least this part of it, because now Trump is not doing questions anymore.
	Now he's given up.
	He says it's not worth doing questions at the press conference.
	If he does, like, hello, you finally figured that one out, Prez, really?
	That it wasn't worth it?
	So, Saturday Night Live made good on a request.
	You'll recall Fauci is, of course, a super celebrity.
	Everybody loves him.
	I think this was CNN. Saturday Night Live is back this weekend.
	After a month of being off, what do you think the chances are that somebody will portray you?
	I have no idea.
	I hope not.
	Well, if they did, which actor would you want to play you?
	Here are some suggestions that I've heard.
	Ben Stiller, Brad Pitt.
	Which one?
	Oh, Brad Pitt, of course.
	Ha, ha, ha!
	Well, of course he got his wish.
	And now, a message from one of the lead members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, Dr.
	Anthony Fauci.
	By the way, it's going to be hard to hear that it's Brad Pitt until the end, because he nails the accent.
	I think he really does it.
	He had a wig on, had the glasses on, and they kept cutting to video of old videos.
	So this is the crescendo of the bleach cycle.
	Good evening.
	I'm Dr.
	Anthony Fauci.
	First, I'd like to thank all the older women in America who have sent me supportive, inspiring, and sometimes graphic emails.
	Now, there's been a lot of misinformation out there about the virus.
	And yes, the President has taken some liberties with our guidelines.
	So tonight, I would like to explain what the President was trying to say.
	And remember, let's all keep an open mind.
	We had a great meeting today with a lot of the great companies, and they're going to have vaccines, I think, relatively soon.
	Relatively soon is an interesting phrase.
	Relative to the entire history of Earth, sure, the vaccine's going to come real fast.
	But if you were to tell a friend, I'll be over relatively soon.
	And then showed up a year and a half later, well, your friend may be relatively pissed off.
	We have done an incredible job.
	We're going to continue.
	It's going to disappear.
	One day it's like a miracle.
	It will disappear.
	A miracle would be great.
	Who doesn't love miracles?
	But miracles shouldn't be plan A. It's atrocious, isn't it?
	It's bad.
	What?
	This.
	It's not funny.
	No, it's not funny if that's what you're wondering.
	No, it's not funny.
	He has a couple of gags coming up.
	But I'm noticing his Fauci started off pretty solid.
	And then it slipped out.
	It's starting to fall apart because they're hard to sustain.
	Yeah, but where are the jokes?
	Jokes?
	Wait, there's one or two...
	Are there supposed to be jokes?
	Yeah, there's one or two here, I think.
	By the way, just as an aside, I recorded a couple of these Jimmy Kimmel bits because you had one the other day.
	There is no material there worth repeating.
	It's just terrible.
	Where are the writers, man?
	Where are the writers?
	Sheltered in place.
	Cowering in place.
	The airport first.
	Anybody that needs a test gets a test.
	They're there.
	They have the test.
	And the tests are beautiful.
	Okay.
	A couple of things.
	I don't know if I would describe the test as beautiful.
	Unless your idea of beauty is having a cotton swab tickle your brain.
	Also, when he said everyone can get a test, what he meant was...
	Why would you do that if you're trying to be the righteous SNL, the righteous on the right side of history Saturday Night Live?
	Why would you make fun of a test that has been outdated, the one that goes into your brain?
	Why would you put that into people's heads?
	To make them not want to get a test?
	Or you just...
	I don't know.
	I just found that kind of irresponsible.
	Your beauty is having a cotton swab tickle your brain.
	Also, when he said everyone can get a test, what he meant was almost no one.
	You can call it a germ, you can call it a flu, you can call it a virus, you can call it many different names.
	I'm not sure anybody even knows what it is.
	Do you see what they're doing?
	It just kept on going.
	The whole time.
	And there's a funny bit here or there, but this is two minutes now, not funny.
	We know what it is.
	And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute.
	And is there a way we can do something like that by injection?
	So now he does a sight gag.
	Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light.
	I know I shouldn't be touching my face, but...
	Now, there is a rumor that the president is going to fire me.
	Let's see what he said about that.
	Today I walk in, I hear I'm going to fire him.
	I'm not firing him.
	I think he's a wonderful guy.
	So yeah, I'm getting fired.
	Until then, I'm going to be there putting out the facts for whoever's listening.
	And then he takes off his wig.
	And when I hear things like, the virus can be cured if everyone takes the Tide Pod challenge, I'll be there to say, please don't.
	And to the real Dr.
	Fauci...
	Thank you for your calm and your clarity in this unnerving time.
	And thank you to the medical workers, first responders, and their families for being on the front line.
	And now, live, kinda, from all across America, it's Saturday night.
	Yeah, so that's what they're doing now.
	Well, I think they're destroying their own franchises around here.
	I mean, they never have trouble in a regular season of running reruns.
	They'll run them all the time.
	Right.
	But now when you actually can't do a show, you do this virtual signaling show, which everyone's, oh, I'm in my house.
	I'm in my house.
	We do have a note from one of our producers about this.
	He does.
	I have to find the note.
	I didn't think about it.
	About what?
	Well, he does.
	He does remotes.
	Oh, I have it.
	I have it.
	Yeah, I want you to read that note.
	This is a great note.
	And this tells you, because this was a point of debate between you and me.
	I thought that they were phoning up the sound on purpose.
	I didn't think that at first.
	But then I started watching them normalize different kinds of feeds.
	This is for the stay-at-home hosts who sound like crap.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes, guys, I just got off a call with...
	I guess I won't mention the name.
	We do the tech for 80% of Broadway, Turner, NBC, Fox, etc.
	I will tell you that the shit quality is on purpose.
	Stephen Colbert has a broadcast truck in his driveway and Trevor Noah has a two-cam set in his apartment.
	You can be sure others have similar setups.
	Just some info from the inside.
	In addition...
	I got a note from an AV dude named Ben, Anonymous.
	I work as an audio-video technician in Manhattan for corporate events.
	This is more regarding Biden and or what happened to the president recently when they didn't play the end of his favorite clip with Cuomo.
	I work as an audio-video technician in Manhattan for corporate events and I have an explanation why there was a mess up at the White House.
	There's a known pact between AV professionals that are working events for organizations that are conservative, religious, or Republican.
	The pact is to mess things up just enough so you can blame the equipment for the problem, but enough to make the person on stage look like an idiot.
	I've spoken with one of these technicians who was fired for messing up the audio feed for an event that featured the president.
	I'll bet you that was that Thursday night from the Oval Office.
	I'll bet you that was the guy.
	As for why Joe Biden has all these technical problems, I haven't got a damn clue yet, but I'm still looking into it.
	We'll provide information once I find it.
	So, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sabotage!
	It's all sabotage.
	We were suspicious of the Trump sabotage, which seemed a little off.
	Yeah, totally.
	But yeah, it makes sense.
	These guys are just as political as anybody else.
	Sure.
	And I'm going to point something out, because I didn't want to do any of these Shields and Brooks, which are really terrible now.
	But I do have three I do want to play.
	And the main reason is that Brooks...
	The so-called, you know, the conservative, supposed conservative who's actually a Democrat, works for the New York Times as a columnist, and all the New York Times folks.
	Brooks is in his, they have the three of them in their homes, they make a big point of saying it, Judy says it, and Judy is on the front of it, she's on a green screen, there's no doubt about it.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's wiggling around her hair, and it's a bookshelf, it's the old bookshelf, and it's I'm sorry to stop you.
	When you say no bouquet, I think that would be great for people to understand what that means.
	It's just, I don't even know where that term comes from, but it refers to the amount of blurring that takes place in the background when your camera usually has a big, when the aperture is wide, and you have whatever size lens, it's usually probably one of the shorter lenses, and you're focusing very closely where you can get the focus right on somebody's nose.
	The background will go into a blur.
	Isn't that just depth of field?
	Isn't that what that means?
	Depth of field is a way of putting it.
	Depth effect, yeah.
	Okay.
	But I like bouquet much more.
	B-O-K-E-H. Anyway, so anyway, this doesn't look right on Judy.
	And you can see it.
	You can see the little...
	I've always been tuned into this because I got a lecture.
	I went to a lecture once at the NAB about...
	Green screens by some maniac that was a green screen nut.
	And he was showing green screen anomalies.
	And I didn't see any of it.
	But anyway.
	Before you go on, I was just thinking about this yesterday.
	That at MTV, we utilized some of the very first chroma key, which was blue screen back in the day.
	Yeah, it was originally blue screen.
	It was all blue.
	And that was a game changer, though.
	That did a lot for television.
	Chroma key.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so you've got Shields on the left, Judy Sharp focus in the middle, and Brooks.
	And Brooks is on the right.
	I'm going to play these three clips, and it doesn't really bring out Brooks right away, but I'm looking at Brooks, and he is looking like he's aged 10 years, and he just looks frightened.
	And it dawned on me that these guys, these media guys that are in, you know, and I think about the Lib Joes and all the rest of them when they say, oh, the earth is melting.
	They actually flipped out.
	They're actually flipped out by their own, by believing their own publicity is the only way of putting it.
	If you want to call it publicity.
	Well, yeah, it's just like they do these negative stories and it's in a negative environment and everybody believes all this.
	People believe that Trump literally said, take some bleach and inject it.
	Yep.
	He never said anything of the stories you just proved.
	But these guys are all in on this, and it's hurting them.
	I mean, physically.
	It's physically damaging them.
	It's something to watch.
	I mean, Brooks is a wreck, this guy.
	I can't imagine.
	I have to assume everybody at the New York Times is like this.
	Except if psychos, I mean, there's a few of those over there.
	And it's so sad that...
	These are people who are not dumb.
	I mean, they have degrees and stuff.
	All you have to do is watch a minute and 30 seconds of C-SPAN to know exactly what he said.
	But the whole world has become headline-driven.
	It's headline media.
	That's all it is.
	You have clickbait, but then New York Times does headline media.
	Which is clickbait.
	Well, sadly, the way the machine works is when they grab onto something like this, it's self-fulfilling.
	Because, yeah, then all of a sudden the bean counters show up and the tickers pop on.
	Like, okay, we got a live one here.
	Let's keep this going, people.
	What else can we get?
	Can we get Johnson& Johnson to put out a release that says, don't do it?
	Okay, we got that checkmark, boss.
	So I have these three clips from Shields and Brooks on the PBS NewsHour, and I want to play them.
	The first one is about the Georgia situation, which became a big topic of conversation.
	So if you listen to this, this is Shields explaining why the president doesn't want Georgia to just open its doors, even though he makes false analogies.
	But listen to what he's doing and what you're going to listen for.
	I might as well give it away.
	The president is constantly condemned for not taking the advice of the experts.
	Even though he is.
	When in the coronavirus situation, he's done nothing but take the advice of the experts.
	If he went by his gut, probably none of this would be happening.
	But he goes by the advice of the experts, Fauci in particular, and this woman, your buddy.
	Birx.
	Birx.
	Those two tell him what they're doing and say, so he passes that along.
	But he's still condemned for being a wild renegade shooting his gun in the air.
	And here's an example of Shields trying to...
	Put the two things together so he can slam Trump at the same time his argument is...
	It's always the outcome.
	It's always like, how can I wind this up by slamming Trump?
	That's pretty much what it is.
	And now we turn to the analysis of Shields and Brooks.
	That is, syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks.
	So all three of us are at our homes.
	It's great to see both you, Mark, and you, David, staying safe.
	Let's start with President Trump's decision to turn over to the governors the decision about whether and when to open up.
	Mark, we've seen the state of Georgia, other states, moving quickly to reverse the stay-at-home orders.
	There are questions being raised about whether it's too early.
	The president himself, at point, backing down on his support for this.
	How do you read all this?
	You have to watch it closely, Judy.
	I mean, just last weekend, the president was in bold type, tweeting out, liberate Minnesota, liberate Michigan, liberate Virginia, to put pressure on Democratic governors there to lift the bans and lift the quarantine.
	So, Doug...
	Stop a second.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Those liberate tweets had nothing to do with the quarantine.
	They were to tell the voters to get rid of these Democrat governors in the next election.
	And he was just saying, let's liberate these states from these Democrats.
	But Shields doesn't care about that because there was no indication it was anything other than that.
	But he's going to read it in.
	That's what they're doing a lot.
	They're reading.
	That's what they did with this inject the bleach.
	They're reading into just a mild comment.
	But let's continue.
	Virginia, to put pressure on Democratic governors there to lift the bans.
	And lift the quarantine.
	So Kemp, the governor of Georgia, who was the last in the country to impose stay-at-home rules, wants to be the first to lift them and thought he had a green light from the president, I guess.
	But the president doesn't forget the fact that while he is a loyal supporter of Mr.
	Kemp's, it's an off-and-on thing because Kemp, if you'll recall, just at a petty political point, Instead of appointing To Johnny Isakson's vacancy in the United States Senate, Doug Collins, the congressman from Georgia, had been so close to the president, the opponent said Kelly Loeffler.
	And all of a sudden, Donald Trump, the president, was told, according to reports from CNN, by both, by Anthony Fauci, Dr.
	Anthony Fauci, that he could not support and would not defend the lifting of the quarantine in Georgia.
	So he backed off.
	Very roundabout way of saying nothing.
	Well, he said that Trump was venal and he was irked at this guy and he didn't want him to lift the ban because of his not picking his pal.
	We don't know any...
	None of this could be...
	This could all be lies.
	It was based on a CNN report.
	And then Fauci tells Trump not to approve this lifting so soon...
	In other words, the expert told Trump what to do, Trump listened to the expert, and Trump passed it along.
	Instead of leaving it at that as a simple explanation for the whole thing, no, he dreams all this crazy imaginary stuff up.
	And this is continuing in the media to such an extreme that I don't know how people can stand it.
	Well, and that's why...
	I think, for me, the media has no value.
	Entertainment value, there's still some funny stuff.
	But if you actually want to learn something, you can't get it anymore.
	You have to go to podcasts, YouTubes, all kinds of alternatives to get actual professionals who are given two seconds to talk.
	So let's go to clip two of the Shields and Brooks show.
	And so David, I mean the president by doing this is passing on responsibility to the governors for better or worse.
	Yeah, and I'm happy about it.
	I don't want life or death decisions made by a guy who thinks this can be solved by drinking disinfectant.
	So if you can get it out of the White House, we're getting it in a safer and better hands.
	Oh, God.
	I mean, so it has to be that a guy like that, when he says that, he actually thinks that's what was said.
	He must.
	This is crazy.
	You have to look at him.
	He looks like he's suicidal.
	Like he drank some disinfectant, probably.
	So I can't trust a guy who says you should drink disinfectant, which he never did.
	So these guys are just, it's just like a, it's like a, I don't, an intellectual bloodbath.
	I don't even know how to describe what's going on with these guys.
	But it's pathetic.
	And I'm telling you, I should have taken some screenshots of it.
	I believe he's on death's door from your description.
	This looks like, wow, man, hold on.
	Well, anyway, so let's go to the last clip.
	Americans, considering how polarized, we're amazingly united right now.
	98% of Democrats and 82% of Republicans support the social distancing.
	Stop and stop and stop.
	Hold on.
	I got to set this one up.
	So what he's doing, what he's going to do is he's going to talk about how the country's united over this COVID thing.
	But what he describes is a, generally speaking, a country of sheep.
	Because what he's describing as a good thing, if you really think about what he's saying, it's kind of pathetic.
	Because he's saying that if they lifted the bans and we all went back to work and said people still wouldn't leave because they were too afraid, that's what he's essentially saying.
	Let's listen to this clip again.
	What are we?
	What are we?
	Are we sheep?
	Americans, considering how polarized, we're amazingly united right now.
	98% of Democrats and 82% of Republicans support the social distancing.
	90% of Americans, complete bipartisan consensus, believe that if we loosen too much, there'd be a second wave.
	76% of Americans say even if their governor did loosen, they wouldn't go out.
	And so, to me, the big story here is we're sort of hanging together through this.
	My goodness.
	Well, I have a few more prime examples.
	By the way, this to me is really, it's just, it's...
	Beyond irksome, it's sickening.
	But anyway, sorry.
	Well, let's get your barf bag ready.
	Let's check out some other people in the media.
	And it's it's I don't know, it's an odd coincidence, but it seems like a lot of politicians have the same feelings and things to talk about as a lot of the people on television.
	And they have the same basic ideas about everything.
	Here's Nicole Wallace from MSNBC.
	Something both tragic and pathetic and ironic about the fact that it took a, you know, colorblind, gender blind state, you know, state line blind virus to sort of have all of the president's sins from his first three state line blind virus to sort of have all of the president's sins from his You can't stand there and lie.
	You can't contradict your scientists because they're the ones that stand at 66 and 68 percent public trust, not you.
	He's down at 38 percent.
	Pence is lower than him.
	I mean, he needs those people, whether he likes what they say or not.
	And I wonder what you think about whether or not there's some silver lining there.
	Some of the things that we've been talking about for three years may be finally catching up with him.
	It's a silver lining that this is bad for him.
	That he's messing it up.
	Silver lining.
	Yeah.
	That's what we want.
	This just proves your point.
	They want it.
	And here's Pelosi.
	And Pelosi was on with...
	Was Pelosi with...
	Um...
	Well, let me see.
	But you'll get the idea.
	It's only a short clip.
	I just want to review that timetable because when I heard Mitch on the floor the other day, he was saying we have all these things in here that we...
	This was Pelosi doing a little presser, actually.
	And she's angry at Mitch McConnell and angry at the president.
	But listen to what she's angry for.
	I just want to review that timetable because when I heard Mitch on the floor the other day, he was saying we have all these things in here that we ask for.
	No, you reject it.
	No, you reject it.
	Speaking of Mitch, what's gotten into him?
	Well, it's an indication.
	The president is asking people to inject Lysol into their lungs.
	And Mitch is saying...
	Whoa!
	The president is asking people to inject Lysol into their wounds.
	I thought you hyperventilated for a moment there.
	I'm surprised I didn't have a heart attack.
	I've given you a clip of the day for finding that one.
	I never heard that one.
	What a horrible witch.
	Yeah, but maybe she believes it.
	Maybe she read a headline and she took it to a whole new extreme.
	She took it from bleach to Lysol and from Lysol to injecting it in your wounds.
	So let's hear that again.
	Speaking of Mitch, what's gotten into him?
	Well, it's an indication.
	The president is asking people to inject Lysol into their lungs.
	And Mitch is saying...
	Oh, she said lungs, I think.
	Okay.
	Inject Lysol into their lungs.
	That states should go bankrupt.
	It's a clear, visible indication.
	Within 24 hours of how the Republicans reject science and reject governance.
	If you don't believe in science and you don't believe in governance, that's their approach.
	And we do not.
	We don't want any more government that we need, but we know that governance has a role.
	And we know that science has a role.
	And without science in our decision-making, we are not going to be on a very successful path.
	So we'll talk about science in a moment, but that's the most powerful woman in the House of Representatives, powerful person in the House of Representatives.
	And where would we be without our favorite impeachment guru, Adam Schiff, who did a little Skype call from home with the vasectomy wonder, Chris Hayes on MSNBC, and spot the lie.
	Well, we knew we had to answer the question to the senators.
	OK, essentially, House managers, you proved him guilty.
	Does he really need to be removed?
	After all, we have an election in nine months.
	How much damage could he really do?
	And we posed that question to the Senate and we answered it by saying that he could do an awful lot of damage.
	But frankly, Chris, I don't think we had any idea how much damage he would go on to do in the months ahead.
	There are 50,000 Americans now who are dead in significant part because of his incompetence, because of his inability to think beyond himself and put the country first.
	I don't think we would have ever anticipated that his brand of Narcissism and his brand of incompetence, sometimes his brand of malevolence, would be so fatal to the American people.
	But probably the strongest echo of what we were talking about during the trial was when he was earlier talking about how He didn't want to return the calls from governors.
	He didn't want his vice president to return calls from governors that weren't saying nice things about him, that really weren't saying things about him that he could then turn into campaign commercials, as indeed he has.
	That was such a profound and disturbing echo of what he tried to do with Ukraine.
	So sadly, you know, as we pointed out during the trial, a man with no moral compass will never find his way, and this president certainly hasn't.
	So what he said there, the blatant lie, he said that if governors aren't nice to him, he doesn't call them back, and he instructs his vice president not to call them back.
	He has said exactly the opposite consistently.
	So this is just lies, and they all hate him so much.
	It's crazy.
	You know, you'd think Chris Hayes would at least correct some of this, but no.
	Let's talk about some science for a moment, because we've been let down by science to an incredible degree with models that were blown out of proportion.
	People can still try and defend them all you want, but it's bullshit and you know it.
	Five revisions.
	Now we don't even show any charts, any data, any models.
	If you go look at the influenza studies, The influenza-like illness network, which is what we are opening up on, you'll see that the past week, the red line, which is now used for coronavirus, has dropped significantly below the baseline of any flu season.
	But yet, here we are.
	No one knows anything.
	It's still unclear what works, what doesn't work.
	And most importantly, we have all kinds of people coming out of the woodwork, and these are professionals saying, well, you know what?
	The data, the way it's being presented, doesn't really make that much sense.
	We have Pennsylvania removing 200 deaths from the official coronavirus count because this has been overhyped, either negligence or out-and-out fraud by hospitals to get more Medicare money.
	Here's the Illinois Public Health Director.
	If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death.
	It means that technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death.
	So everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of death.
	So there's just hundreds of these reports, and these are officials?
	Probably thousands.
	Right.
	I'm only saying the ones that...
	Well, I haven't even come off hundreds, but I've seen them.
	There's a lot out there, and there seems to be a huge rift between what the science professionals are telling us from the podium and what's actually happening with the TikTok videos of furloughed staff on the ground.
	Sorry?
	No, go on.
	We also learned that New York City did not get the virus from China.
	It is not China's fault.
	I'm sure it has nothing to do with the amount of investment that China has put into New York City and the fact that they own the New Year's Eve celebration on Times Square and have done so for the past eight years.
	And the New York Times.
	And God knows what else.
	But no, that has nothing to do with it.
	We can always trust our Nipplegate governor.
	February 2nd.
	The president ordered a travel ban from China.
	March 1st, we have the first confirmed case in the state of New York.
	By March 19th, New York state is totally closed down.
	No state moved faster from first case to close down than the state of New York.
	March 16th, we have a full travel ban from Europe.
	Researchers now find And they report in some newspapers.
	The virus was spreading wildly in Italy in February.
	And there was an outbreak, massive outbreak, in Italy in February.
	Researchers now say there were likely 28,000 cases in the United States in February, including 10,000 cases in the state of New York.
	And the coronavirus flu, the virus that came to New York, did not come from China.
	It came from Europe.
	Okay?
	Okay?
	Okay, I won't question you on it.
	It came from Europe.
	What's he talking about?
	Even if it came from, say, a bunch of Italians came over and they brought the virus with them.
	They got that from the Wuhan facilities off of the Venice Belt and Road Initiative.
	It all came from China.
	No, it came from Europe.
	You just heard it.
	And he doesn't want to lose his geisha privileges.
	No, that's Japanese.
	Whatever you get in Japan.
	Front culture.
	Whatever you get in China.
	Oh, despicable, really.
	Bad news.
	That is pretty despicable.
	Oh, totally.
	Bad news for the farmer bros.
	The same exact novel coronavirus with the word novel attached to it is it gets cropped up out of the blue someplace else without any connection to the Chinese?
	What are you talking about?
	What is he talking about?
	Does anyone ask him?
	No.
	Well, he understood his logic, though, right?
	His logic?
	Yeah, he had logic.
	He said the travel ban from China was February 2nd.
	I think it was January 31st, but okay, February 2nd.
	Then the travel ban from Europe wasn't until March 20th or 23rd, I think, and they locked down New York on the 16th.
	He said, well, it's clear that That came from Europe, because people were banned from traveling from China.
	Now, of course, where did the virus ultimately come from?
	By the way, not everyone was banned from traveling from China.
	All the American citizens were let through.
	He just wants to make sure you heard it.
	It wasn't China's fault.
	Bad news for the pharma bros.
	Remdesivir has failed.
	No, no.
	Did you see big news about that?
	Headlines?
	Of course not.
	No, of course not.
	And you don't hear much about hydroxychloroquine, and for reasons that will be explained in a later clip.
	That's not true.
	In fact, I don't have the clips, but on that same PBS NewsHour, Judy says the debunked use of hydroxychloroquine is no good.
	They go on and on about it.
	We know who funds the mainstream media.
	We know, and whether you're on PBS, NPR, or any of the commercial stations, your number one advertisers are pharmaceutical, telecom, and auto, and then you get your packaged goods.
	Pharma spends billions of dollars.
	You should get that number.
	Oh, we've had it.
	I'm sure it's probably in the $8 to $10 billion in the U.S. alone.
	It might even be more than that.
	But pharma has no benefit to hydroxychloroquine because it's out of patent.
	That's why all noses were turned towards remdesivir.
	This has got to be the one.
	This has got to be it.
	So they cook up a phony baloney, some guy in the VA who pulls a couple of patient datas from different hospitals, different hospitals, No control group.
	Just not a study.
	Not peer-reviewed.
	And that is now being used as the debunker.
	The debunker for Trump's crazy hydroxychloroquine.
	Well, I would like to talk about that.
	But first, the snarky question he got on Thursday's briefing about hydroxychloroquine.
	Mr.
	President, on the subject of medical research, why have you stopped promoting hydroxychloroquine as a cure?
	What do you say?
	We'll see what happens.
	We've had a lot of very good results, and we had some results that perhaps aren't so good.
	I don't know.
	I just read about one, but I also read many times good, so I haven't at all.
	And it's a great...
	For malaria, for lupus, for other things, and we'll see what it is.
	But I guess, Deborah, they have many studies going on on that, so we'll be able to learn.
	Have you looked at the veteran study that shows that the death rate is higher?
	I have not seen it.
	Go ahead, please.
	So he's sick and tired of it, but you see what the media is doing.
	It's like, how come you're not promoting it anymore?
	Is that because the studies show that it doesn't work?
	Maybe.
	But we can't trust the mainstream anymore.
	The M5M is failing us with some actual details.
	However, we have a Dr.
	Zelenko from New Rochelle, New York, who has been doing the rounds on podcasts.
	I saw him with Adam Carolla.
	I got this particular piece from...
	Uh, the Steve Bannon, uh, lockdown, pandemic, war room, war room.
	The worst podcast.
	War room, pandemic.
	Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
	Hey, from Fort Defiance here in Capitol Hill.
	Okay.
	But Zelenko is the real deal.
	He's a doctor in New Rochelle.
	He's a community, 35,000 people in a one square mile.
	And this is a middle-aged guy.
	He's like 40.
	And he said, well, I knew we were going to get some stuff because we're so tightly packed here with the density.
	And he was ready.
	And he developed a protocol of hydroxychloroquine and zinc.
	Oral protocol, so just pills, and he saw a 95% reduction in death rate of patients he administered this to.
	And there's a couple of things that he mentions in this, but obviously one thing that has not really been talked about on the M5M is doing anything for someone once they're in the hospital on a ventilator is Is not going to get you good results all the time.
	Whereas the idea of hydroxychloroquine, that works similar to Tamiflu if you have influenza.
	You feel it coming on.
	You go.
	You go in.
	He says, don't even wait for a test.
	Just take it.
	It's not going to kill you.
	It's hydroxychloroquine, not...
	Chloroquine, which is different than the dosages.
	But anyway, he created this, and it's being poo-pooed by the mainstream.
	He can't get on CNN or Fox or MSNBC or PBS or NPR, so he's doing the rounds because he wants to help people.
	And he's published his study, and people are looking at it, and here's what he had to say.
	I am coming out with a study, yes.
	It's going to be published in the higher journals, I hope.
	And the only reason why I didn't come out with it before, it's only been four and a half weeks.
	And I've been seeing a hundred patients a day.
	You know, Dr.
	Dudier in France has 800 people on his team.
	I have five.
	I mean, I was working 21 hour days with eight kids that I have.
	So I don't understand when I was supposed to come up with the data while I'm in the middle of treating hundreds of patients.
	But now things have calmed down.
	I put together the data.
	It's being analyzed by the highest level I'm not a researcher.
	I'm just a simple doctor on the front line.
	And the data is going to come out and it's going to show the following.
	95% reduction of death.
	95% reduction in intubation and hospitalization.
	This data is exactly consistent.
	Actually, it's a little better than Dr.
	Dudier.
	Raul in France, in Marseille, France, he doesn't use zinc, but still, he intervenes early and he had, I think, an 88% reduction in death.
	And the government of Brazil actually implemented my protocol three and a half weeks ago in a few hospitals and clinics, and they had a 95% reduction in death.
	They published a study.
	So now you have three continents, three doctors groups who don't know each other, basically, all coming out and saying, and look at the great novel idea.
	If you treat early, you get better results.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	I also just saw in the troll room that the entire state of South Dakota will be doing a hydroxychloroquine trial.
	I guess it's no good, though.
	We should mention that the FDA actually came out with a notification that doctors should not use it.
	Is that the actual FDA notification?
	I haven't seen it.
	It just came out like yesterday or the day before.
	And there's a big scandal.
	All these doctors coming out of the woodwork saying, what is this?
	We can do whatever we want.
	They said it's not prescribed for use.
	It was an FDA guy.
	Some old, did they track into some old Obama hack?
	I thought they rushed through that exact, that's exactly what they did, was to get the FDA to approve it for off-label use.
	No, this was the exact opposite happened.
	Somebody in the troll room should dig this up.
	Dig up the order.
	It's an order it came out.
	An order.
	Yeah.
	Well, this fits perfectly with the second and last clip from this Dr.
	Zelenko.
	The medical community is a mess.
	Oh, here it is.
	FDA issues warning about hydroxychloroquine.
	Let me see what it says.
	A MedWatch safety alert was issued by the FDA about the use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for treating COVID-19.
	Let's see what it issued.
	An emergency...
	Yes, we got the emergency use authorization, which it allowed it.
	However, it says negative.
	Huh?
	The hell...
	The FDA's safety alert doesn't say those patients should stop taking the drugs.
	Instead, warn general consumers to not buy these medicines from online pharmacies without a prescription from your healthcare professional.
	You read the headline.
	Well, the point is that, as somebody pointed out this whole thing, they conflated.
	Chloroquine is dangerous.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Did you have something else to say about chloroquine?
	No, well, you can't.
	They're grouping the two together.
	Right.
	As one single drug when it's not.
	Yeah, but they also did not say don't use it.
	They said don't go out and buy it yourself from an online pharmacy.
	No, it was an advisory.
	I'm reading it.
	The advisory had nothing.
	I'm just saying you read a headline.
	That's not what the doctors were told.
	I was only listening to the reports.
	Okay.
	Well, this is what happens.
	This is how it goes.
	I know.
	I look like an old man like Brooks.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, not at all.
	We deconstruct it in real time.
	That's how it goes.
	Here are the problems in the medical community.
	They are fourfold.
	They'd rather see the enemies of humanity, I would call them, rather see this country's economy burn, people die, than to give the president away.
	That's number one.
	Number two, I thought through this, by the way, it's a multifactorial what's going on.
	Number two is, listen, the drug companies have invested millions of dollars.
	I like the drug companies.
	They save life.
	And they invest millions of dollars, billions of dollars in development of treatments and vaccines.
	And it's great.
	I didn't want to hurt anyone.
	But the fact is, I came up with a solution, but the $20, essentially, resolves the problem.
	I'm sure that's not a very...
	Good thing for people that invested billions of dollars.
	And I'm sorry, but my focus is not billions of dollars, it's human life.
	Number three, there's a lot of ego in the medical community.
	You know, some hip doctor, a acidic doctor in upstate New York thinks of a treatment for $20 where these Harvard researchers that sit behind a desk thinking of ideas weren't able to.
	Could you imagine?
	And number four, which is a real big problem, doctors are afraid of liability.
	They're afraid to use these drugs because they're not familiar with them or because of the negative PR or because of the litigious nature of the society.
	So there's a lot of obstacles in using these drugs.
	The only thing is, none of it matters to me.
	Before we continue...
	So, there you go.
	Egos...
	He didn't really mention the advertising aspect, which would have been interesting to add to it.
	But those are the problems.
	And I think the ego and the not invented here and...
	And he could take that one step further and say, shit, they don't want this out-of-patent thing to be successful.
	They want something new.
	Well, the thing that, I'll tell you, there's a little point of information here that we need to discuss and why this hasn't happened.
	The out-of-patent stuff is kind of a myth because what's been going on over the years is that the big drug companies buy the little generic drug companies.
	They own them all.
	And then they jack up the price 10x like they did with insulin and a bunch of little minor drugs.
	Why hasn't one of the big boys bought out the manufacturer of hydroxychloroquine, bought a lock, stock, and barrel, and then jacked up the price?
	Why hasn't that happened?
	Because that's not how the system works.
	The system works where the CDC, or I should say the Health and Human Services, I was looking at the org chart yesterday, there must be hundreds of thousands of people working under the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
	NIH by itself is, you know, which has an $11 billion budget, just one little piece.
	The whole idea is...
	The drug companies pay for the studies.
	The drug companies reap the benefits.
	You know what?
	Hold on a second before you go on in this direction.
	When you say that's not how it works, that's how it worked with insulin, which is out of patent, and people have been buying these insulin companies and the prices have been skyrocketing.
	That's not how it works with the EpiPen, where the guy bought the EpiPen, which is out of patent, and now next thing you know it costs $100 for one of these jabs.
	That's exactly how it works.
	It's missing an important point?
	Of course.
	The idea is vaccines.
	The idea is not...
	Treatment.
	No, I... Okay, that's the point.
	I'm going to give you that one.
	But on the other hand, the drug companies that aren't involved in vaccines, that are just basically involved in gouging...
	Why haven't they pulled this stunt?
	I don't know the exact ownership of anything.
	I think a lot of it comes from India, and I think there's a bunch of people making it.
	I think that may be the problem.
	You can't buy an Indian company.
	I don't know.
	But John, I think that the drug is being used.
	The drug is being purchased.
	Oh, everybody uses it.
	That's the whole thing.
	It's like they're making money on it.
	It's just that's not the big money.
	The big money is obviously where we need to go.
	I have Robert Kennedy Jr.
	with another one of his wisdom genius bits.
	But first, just to show you how ingrained everything is with each other, the CDC, the NIH, the vaccine industry.
	Listen to my friend Debra Burke's On CNN, it's a short clip with Anderson Pooper and Sanjay Gupta.
	Flub of the year.
	I think that's why the criteria that you can see the Gates Center that the federal government has recommended.
	Let's hear that one more time.
	I think that's why the criteria that you can see the Gates Center that the federal government has recommended.
	As long as Gates is recommending it, how could you go wrong?
	It's all fine.
	It's just perfect.
	Robert Kennedy Jr.
	has been doing the rounds.
	We heard him on a different podcast in the previous episode.
	Just another single clip of him about the function of the CDC, how it works with the pharmaceutical companies.
	Remember, he has an affliction of his voice, so it takes a second to get used to hearing him.
	Well, there are many, you know, there are revolving door problems with all of our federal agencies and all of our state agencies.
	There's a phenomena that is very well documented called an agency capture, which is a phenomena or a dynamic by which the agency that's supposed to protect the American public from bad drugs or from pollution or what have you ultimately becomes A subsidiary or a sock puppet for the industry that it's supposed to regulate.
	And indeed, that's what we see with the CDC. The head of CDC from 2002 to 2009, as you point out, was Julie Gerberding.
	She did a number of billion-dollar favors for Merck.
	She silenced a whistleblower who was William Thompson, who is still a scientist at the CDC, who wanted to tell the public that testing of Merck's vaccine showed that particularly the The MMR vaccine was causing autism in black boys and other people who got the vaccine on time and that the scientists had been ordered to destroy data showing that effect and that
	they went ahead and published the study lying about it to the American people and to physicians.
	Julie Gerberding did a huge favor to Merck by having that scientist punished and then silenced.
	She arranged for Merck to get the monopoly to the multi-billion dollar MMR vaccine and to make sure Glaxo could not sell its vaccine in this country.
	She approved the The HPV vaccine, Gardasil, which is another Merck product, she approved the chickenpox vaccine and silenced whistleblower Gary Goldman, another doctor who said this vaccine is going to cause a shingles epidemic.
	Merck then not only got the chickenpox vaccine, But it also was able to market a shingles vaccine.
	She retired in 2009 and she was made president of Merck's vaccine division in 2010 with a salary of about $2.5 million.
	I think about $5 million in stock options.
	EDC is actually a vaccine company.
	There you go.
	Is he just controlled opposition?
	How does he stay alive with these slanderous comments?
	That's what I'd like to know.
	How do you stay alive with these slanderous comments?
	I mean, that's slander.
	They're slanderous.
	You know, you can sue him.
	I don't see anybody suing him.
	He's naming names.
	That's the part that makes you go, hmm...
	What they're doing is they're saying, look, the media, what you actually, another one of these little things we brought up right at the beginning of the show, and we might as well remind people, nothing's going to happen because the drug companies own the media.
	China and the drug companies own the media.
	Say it one more time loud and proud.
	China and the drug companies own the media.
	And they do.
	So the media's not going to go...
	Where did you get that Robert Kennedy clip from?
	Some little podcast?
	Actually, a big station known as Russia Today.
	Even Russia Today, by the way, because of the influence of the drug companies and the Chinese.
	Russia Today has been pretty much knocked off of every platform in the United States, despite the fact that they do pretty good content.
	Great, great work.
	I think it's important when we're talking about data and models to mention that I certainly, but collectively you and I, did not understand Dr.
	Birx's calculation how with 1% sensitivity of the test and 1% false positive...
	Because it's confusing, and by the way, we got more than one note on this, and I want to say...
	We have a lot of notes on this.
	We have smart, smart people out there.
	And I want to mention I'm going to put up a web page consolidating this information so people can actually just refer to it.
	Because to explain it, Which Adam's going to try to do right now, I sense.
	I'll try briefly.
	It's pretty close to being futile.
	And Dr.
	Birx did us no favors.
	But the interesting part of the calculation is the assumption that there is a 1% difference.
	Infection rate amongst the general population.
	Now we've heard from different states, different cities, we're looking at 10, 15, 20, sometimes 30 or 35% infection rate based upon what they've measured.
	And in New York, they've done 675,000 tests.
	They've come up with a much higher number than 1% being positive.
	And there's a huge argument...
	Hopefully we'll get to your, I want to hear your Erickson, Dr.
	Erickson, the huge argument over that being extrapolated with statistics, which is funny, the people who will believe a political poll with 500 people answering will be outraged by 675,000 people tested as being not statistically important.
	So the idea is, and I'm no mathematician, obviously, if you have 1% false positive of the test and 1% of the population is positive, then you literally have that 1% on each side of the spectrum, so you have a literal 50-50% chance that the test you do is giving you a false positive.
	However, one of our producers was so kind to give us a prevalence estimator Excel sheet, which I will post in the show notes.
	It should go up on your page as well, John.
	So I can literally type in true prevalence.
	So if we know...
	Should we just say 15% to keep it nice and low, even though we've seen 35%?
	So 15% of the country, if they are...
	15% is a good number.
	Those numbers back east are very dubious, and I'm going to stick with my thesis that they're cheating the numbers.
	New Jersey and New York in particular are cheating the American public.
	They're trying to get money out of us, because especially New York is bankrupt.
	No argument.
	If you take the 15%, then all of a sudden, the test is 95% accurate.
	So it's exponential.
	So if you go to 2%, we go from a 50% chance that the test is accurate to 67.
	You do 3%, you're already at 75.
	So if you did 30%, you're at 98%.
	So, thank you all very much for teaching me some mathematics.
	What is interesting about it is she, for some reason, doesn't really want this to be true.
	Which is why she's doing this big waffle about 50%.
	I think she at one point even said that influenza is not even that...
	I don't know what she's talking about, but at least we got the numbers straight.
	And if we take the numbers that we've heard from every other professional outside of that podium in D.C., that it's not 1%, but it's much closer to 15%, then your test is going to be okay.
	However, we have problems with the tests.
	We got a note from one of our producers, who will go anonymous.
	I just wanted to forward a boots-on-the-ground report.
	I've been doing COVID research for the past couple of months.
	This person works in a lab.
	And I've been developing ELISA assays.
	Wow!
	My two favorite words after each other.
	ELISA assays for testing serum for the presence of the spike protein found on the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
	We used a vendor called CINO Biological for our antibodies for developing these tests.
	We discovered that the antibodies are poorly manufactured and have given us false positives as we develop our kits.
	Although I thought maybe I was just fucking up, we verified that the antibodies were faulty when we purchased the same antibodies from a different vendor.
	GenScript.
	And those ended up working.
	Sino's headquarters are, you guessed it, in Beijing, and is funded by Bill Gates.
	When we called them, they lied about their production process, even delayed sending us a product until we called them because they thought that we were closed, yet they sent us their other shitty products.
	I was so unbelievably pissed off the shit.
	Shitty Rush products aren't cheap, so we wasted thousands of dollars and a ton of time trying to use their antibodies when they were garbage.
	Why would this company be selling faulty antibodies to researchers, especially with the extra funding they received from Bill Gates?
	I can't imagine how many other labs have run into this problem.
	The other company we got our antibodies from are out of San Diego, and they are not funded by the Gates Foundation.
	And if you look at...
	The latest news, a disaster, Roche's CEO's verdict on some COVID-19 antibody tests.
	So this is news today that their tests are no good, the antibody tests.
	And we know why, because they're getting their antibody crap from China.
	It's rigged.
	It's very rigged.
	And how can we do any testing if we're...
	I don't even have to explain all that.
	Okay.
	I would like to hear from Dr.
	Erickson, because I think this is one of the most exciting things that, because these guys, him and his partner, they're legit ER guys, and they did a press conference that, I think it aired locally, didn't it?
	Didn't it air on local NBC? Local Bakersfield, I think.
	Woo!
	We're in Bakersfield, baby!
	We're gonna live!
	But it got on the net, it got a lot of play, and it's a little, I only I took four clips.
	One's pretty long, but let's start with Erickson one and we'll get a flavor for what this guy's up to.
	Seven in the morning till midnight.
	We're reporting to the health department.
	We're calling patients back.
	And at the same time, our volumes have dropped significantly.
	The hospitals, their ICUs are empty, essentially, and they're shutting down floors.
	They're furloughing patients.
	They're furloughing doctors.
	So the health system has been evacuated in certain places.
	In New York, the health system is working at maximum capacity.
	In California, we're really at a minimal capacity getting rid of our doctors and nurses because we just don't have the volume.
	The hospitals don't, as I've met with our CEOs twice in the last week, and we don't as well.
	So we're busy with paperwork for COVID, and we're all focusing on COVID.
	And so one of the things I'd like to talk about is when I talk to ER physicians around the country, what's happening?
	Well, because COVID has become the focus, people with heart disease, people with cancer, hypertension, and various things that are critical are choosing not to come in based on fear.
	So what that's doing is causing the health system to focus on COVID and not focus on a myriad of other things that are critical because we don't have the staff there and the major component is fear.
	People are saying, I don't want to go get seen by my doctor.
	What if I get the COVID? So there is a lot of secondary effects to COVID that aren't being talked about.
	Yeah, and so he's in his scrubs in this briefing room.
	A couple of things to note.
	One, he kind of starts off with this sort of bitching about the fact that this situation is ruining the business, the healthcare business.
	Well, there's that.
	And then he mentions that New York is flooded, and at the same time, we see a lot of reports out of New York showing it's flooded, but then we see the man on the street walking around with his camcorder or phone floating around these same hospitals that are shown in the nightly news, which is run out in New York.
	And there's nobody there.
	So whether that's really what's going on in New York is a mystery.
	I mean, it seems to me that some of it is bullcrap and is staged.
	But let's go on now.
	This little clip here is one of my more interesting...
	He makes a point, this is clip two, about quarantines.
	And I started thinking about this.
	And of course, earlier in the show, again, you discussed the healthfulness of being outside, because especially in the sunny weather, if you're in Austin, right now it's about 75 here.
	It would be better to be outside than to be holed up, but nobody's outside.
	Let's play this.
	Our first initial response two months ago was a little bit of fear.
	We decided to shut down travel to and from China.
	These are good ideas when you don't have any facts.
	We decided to keep people at home and isolate them.
	Even though everything we studied about quarantine, typically you quarantine the sick.
	When someone has measles, you quarantine them.
	We've never seen where we quarantine the healthy, where you take those without disease and without symptoms and lock them in your home.
	So some of these things, from what we've studied from immunology and microbiology, aren't really meshing with what we know as people of scientific minds that read this stuff every day.
	If I can just interject something that I found.
	Have you ever heard of the Anti-Mask League of San Francisco?
	No.
	And this blew me away.
	A hundred years later we still are idiots.
	Cases of the Spanish flu began to appear in San Francisco during the fall of 1918.
	The city's Board of Health enacted various measures to try to curb the disease, such as banning gatherings, closing schools and theaters, and warning citizens to avoid crowds.
	Sound familiar?
	Professions that served customers, barbers, hotel and rooming house employees, bank tellers, druggists, store clerks, and any other person serving the public, Notice, media was not important back in the day.
	They were required to wear masks.
	On October 25th, the city passed an ordinance that, quote, every resident and visitor of San Francisco would be required to wear a mask while in public or when in a group of two or more people, except at mealtime.
	The Red Cross handed out masks at the terminal for people arriving by ferry.
	People who failed to wear a mask or wore it improperly were charged with disturbing the peace and then warned, fined, or jailed.
	So, this is not new.
	We're doing the exact same thing with the exact same questions, literally down to the mask.
	And people wanted to petition because they felt it was an infringement on their civil liberties.
	It's the same thing.
	Did no one document what worked or what didn't work?
	Well, don't forget, we didn't have antibiotics.
	We didn't have Tylenol.
	I don't even know if we had aspirin.
	Sure.
	There's a lot of things.
	I just thought that was...
	Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
	Nowadays, oh, okay, whatever.
	I think they're trying to get, I always still think there's a test going on.
	Oh, you think?
	Let's see who's obedient here.
	Let's see, okay.
	Let's see who is going to go along with the program.
	Let's see who's not.
	Well, and then again, who's the test for?
	Is it to find out the independent thinkers so they can be used for some special purpose?
	Or is it to find the independent thinkers so they can be shot?
	Yeah.
	There's so many, so many plans that have been activated, so many different agendas that are taking this crisis.
	Let's not let it go to waste.
	Remember...
	It's financial.
	We'll see Europe in a moment.
	Anyway, let's go on with Erickson's Clips 3.
	Of course they are, but that's from media telling them to.
	I am telling them sheltering in place decreases your immune system.
	And then as we all come out of shelter in place with a lower immune system and start trading viruses and bacteria, what do you think is going to happen?
	Disease is going to spike.
	And then you've got disease spike amongst the hospital system with furloughed doctors and nurses.
	This is not the combination we want to set up for a healthy society.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Now, this was based on a reporter.
	This was a reporter.
	You can't get the reporters on this thing.
	Yeah, the reporter was pushing back continuously.
	Yeah, and the reporter says, and the basic line went like this.
	I'm going to do one of your voices.
	What makes you think you know more than the experts in Washington, D.C.? What makes you think you know more?
	That's pretty much it.
	I like the voice, too.
	I think you were on point.
	And that's what the guy kept saying.
	He said, what makes you think you know?
	That's not a question a reporter should be asking.
	He should be reporting, not going into this crazy liberal screamer.
	Well, was he a reporter or did he work for...
	No, they had reporters.
	They worked for the Luminary Podcast Network.
	I have no idea.
	They never identified himself.
	You couldn't tell through his screeching voice.
	This is the last one.
	This is Ericsson.
	And he's talking about the Swedish-Norway comparison.
	And his numbers are a little...
	It seems screwy to me.
	But I do have some Swedish...
	After the break, I actually have the Swedish guy, I think.
	And we'll talk about it.
	We'll bring him in later.
	Let's go with Ericsson and Sweden.
	And then when you bring up a system of lockdown, you automatically have to compare it to a system of no lockdown.
	Sweden and Norway.
	I'm Norwegian.
	Norway has lockdown.
	Sweden does not have lockdown.
	What happened in those two countries?
	Are they vastly different?
	That was the same reporter because he's going to tell about the difference between Sweden and Norway because they're comparable.
	They're right next to each other.
	But before he even gets to that point, the same grouch reporter goes, No way!
	He's got lockdowns!
	This guy was actually pretty calm with this guy.
	I was actually surprised.
	I kind of liked Trump's approach better, but go on.
	Wait, let me do that guy's bit again.
	Sweden and Norway.
	I'm Norwegian.
	Norway has lockdown.
	Sweden does not have lockdown.
	What happened in those two countries?
	The doctor's actually Norwegian.
	He's like, I'm Norwegian.
	Could you just shut up and sit down for a second?
	Are they vastly different?
	Did Sweden have a massive outbreak of cases?
	Did Norway have nothing?
	Let's look at the numbers.
	Sweden.
	Sweden has 15,322 cases of COVID. They did 74,600 tests, which is 21%, similar to the other countries, 21% of all those tested came up positive for COVID. What's the population of Sweden?
	About 10.4 million.
	So if we extrapolate out the data, about 2 million cases of COVID in Sweden.
	They did a little bit of social distancing.
	They would wear masks and separate.
	They went to schools.
	Stores were open.
	They were almost about their normal day of life with a little bit of social distancing.
	They had how many deaths?
	1,765.
	California's had 1,220 with isolation.
	No isolation, 1,765.
	We have more people.
	What I'm getting at is millions of cases, very small death.
	Millions of cases, very small death.
	This is what we're seeing everywhere.
	Norway, its next door neighbor.
	This is where I come from.
	These are two Scandinavian nations.
	We can compare them as they are similar.
	Let's look at the data.
	Norway, 7,191 cases of COVID. Total COVID tests, 145,279.
	So they came up with 4.9% of all COVID tests were positive in Norway.
	Population in Norway, 5.4 million.
	So if we extrapolate the data as we've been doing, which is the best we can do at this point, they have about 1.3 million cases.
	Now, their deaths as a total number were 182, fairly small.
	But statistically insignificant from 1700, you realize.
	Millions of cases, small amount of deaths.
	1700, 100, these are statistically insignificant.
	So you have a.003 chance of death as a citizen of Norway and a 97% recovery.
	Their numbers are a little bit better.
	Does it necessitate shutdown, loss of jobs, destruction of the oil company, furloughing doctors?
	Exactly.
	We have no idea what is still coming, what the fallout will be.
	Just as the governments have no idea what rate manipulation actually will result in.
	And it doesn't matter because that way we can get rid of Trump.
	That's the idea.
	That's the silver lining.
	The silver lining.
	I want to play one last clip for your benefit.
	This is a Trump clip, very short one before we go on a break.
	And this is Tim Cook and the V. I spoke with Tim Cook today of Apple, and they have a good sense of the market, and he feels it's going to be a V. The V is sharply upward later on as we actually get it fully open.
	Today I signed the Paycheck Protection Program and Healthcare...
	It's looking more like a checkmark every day, I'm telling you.
	I think the checkmark recovery is the way to go.
	Since you played that...
	Because this is about the part two of the payroll protection plan.
	What is it?
	Payroll protection program?
	Paycheck.
	I don't know what.
	The PPP. Whatever it is.
	Just to be correct, I wanted to play Sandy's 30 seconds in the house where she got to virtue signal and yell and stomp about about how wrong it is, even though the bill actually contained money specifically for testing, money specifically for hospitals.
	Not good enough.
	Thank you, Madam Speaker.
	And on behalf of my constituents in the Bronx and Queens, New York's 14th Congressional District, the most impacted district in America, calling people, losing their families every day.
	It is a joke when Republicans say that they have urgency around this bill.
	The only folks that they have urgency around are folks like Ruth's Chris Steakhouse and Shake Shack.
	Those are the people getting assistance in this bill.
	You are not trying to fix this bill for mom and pops.
	And we have to fight to fight.
	Fund hospitals.
	Fighting to fund testing.
	That is what we're fighting for in this bill.
	It is unconscionable.
	If you had urgency, you would legislate like rent was due on May 1st and make sure that we include rent and mortgage relief for our constituents.
	Thank you very much.
	Members are reminded to direct their comments to the chair.
	Yes.
	What a doofus.
	Insane.
	Um...
	Maybe just before we take the break, just to get it out of the way, people need to go back to work.
	We have...
	Trouble is brewing everywhere.
	We had a police kill a guy here in Austin.
	Was it Friday?
	I mean, we heard the shots.
	It was...
	Maybe 200 yards away.
	Now, on the other side of some green belt, but we heard the pop, pop, pop!
	And you go look at it.
	It's like everyone's out of their skulls, man.
	We've got a guy doing drugs in his car.
	Someone called in, said he's doing drugs, he's got a gun.
	Ten cop cars show up.
	Helicopter.
	The guy gets out, but he won't...
	He's high, I guess.
	He won't listen to what anyone's saying.
	He's saying, look, I got no gun.
	I got no gun.
	They shoot him with a beanbag.
	He goes down.
	Then the guy gets in the car, drives off.
	He's in a cul-de-sac.
	He couldn't have gotten out.
	They shoot him.
	Kill him!
	And it's like, well, things are a little rough right now with the COVID. You know, everyone's on edge.
	Yeah, we have...
	So we had protests for that yesterday.
	At the same time, Alex Jones was out saying fire Fauci.
	I'm sick and tired of that guy.
	He ruins good protests because the minute he shows up, even though his message is correct, his delivery is shit.
	And then, you know, then anything that people would want to listen to might be interesting for them to know about their own health and life is lost because of his insanity.
	So here was the police protest right behind us here in Opportunity Zone 33.
	We're going to buy that shit.
	We're going to believe that they exist to protect us.
	Bullshit!
	Bullshit!
	Let me tell you something.
	So that was Friday night, then Saturday night, that went on, last night, went on until 10 p.m.
	The same thing, maybe twice as many people, so maybe 30 people.
	So people getting a little jittery, obviously.
	We have Pritzker in Illinois, maybe just out of spite, I don't know, saying, all right, we're going to extend this until the end of May.
	Ha!
	For Illinois.
	People need to get out.
	One of our producers was at the Wisconsin protest, which was big yesterday.
	Here are my observations.
	Oh, he has a chant.
	This is what he recorded.
	Where was it?
	Here's his recording of the chant.
	Open it up!
	Okay, open up.
	A lot of American flags, quite a few don't tread on me flags, no mention of bad data or bad science.
	A lot of anger around small businesses remaining closed while the larger retailers either stayed open or will get to reopen soon.
	Churches being closed was a hot topic.
	Healthcare professionals talked about the empty hospitals and their concern that real health issues are not being addressed.
	So, healthcare professionals were there.
	Must be Trump supporters.
	The whole thing devolved into governor bashing towards the end.
	The two most interesting speakers to me was a woman who talked about how she'd had three negative tests and was still categorized as a COVID-19 patient.
	She has asthma and allergies, which when combined have similar respiratory symptoms of COVID-19.
	She also mentioned they wanted to put her on a ventilator, which she refused.
	Mm-hmm.
	It has to stop.
	It's got to be this week.
	This week, people are going to break out.
	People are not going to wait anymore.
	I tell you right now, Trump is very smart to leave this to the governors, because this is going to be a shit show.
	Paris, people are violently protesting.
	They don't want to be locked down anymore.
	California is no longer issuing rally permits for rallies at the state capitol.
	We know why.
	Yes, for good reason.
	Yeah, Newsom's going to be the one that's going to be interesting to watch because he has to play this.
	He's going to run for president.
	He has an opportunity.
	He has a real opportunity.
	He's going to have to open the state up before everybody else.
	Especially with the numbers.
	You've got great numbers out there.
	Your numbers are great.
	What's wrong with your numbers?
	They're fantastic.
	Open up already.
	The numbers are fine here.
	And I think a lot of the numbers elsewhere, and I think they're honest numbers.
	I think they're close to honest, which sounds good.
	Baffling.
	But when you compare them to New York, it's like then you can see the fraud, the scam.
	New York and New Jersey in particular.
	Just look at the numbers.
	We've posted the charts showing you the numbers and it doesn't make any sense.
	And when you compare the flu seasons to New York, New Jersey, California, every place else and this current COVID thing, it doesn't make sense either.
	Unless New York and New Jersey are scamming the system because they're broke.
	New York in particular is bankrupt.
	They came out with a report late in October of last year saying they're way in debt.
	The city and the state are both mismanaged.
	Yeah, this is what's playing out for the so-called stage four where the president would like to do a huge infrastructure bill, which everyone, the whole country, I think everybody wants to do it.
	We now have the opportunity financially, because it's magic money, MMT, it's immunized, can't go nowhere, it's not inflationary, magic money.
	But the Democrats are going to go full tilt against it, because they first want to have bailout money for the states.
	So that's where the fight is right now.
	And that's why I think you heard Pelosi bitching about Mitch, because he said, let him go bankrupt, which is probably what some cities should do.
	It's a nightmare, but New York has done it before.
	They came out the other end.
	There's a number of states that should go bankrupt.
	Illinois is at the top of the list.
	They should all go bankrupt.
	I think it's like $400 billion or something, if you take all the pension liabilities.
	I hate to say it to the pensioners, because a lot of them, for example, in California, we have guys making more on their pension than they did when they were actually working.
	Right.
	There's a lot of scams going on in that regard.
	It's screwed it up for everybody.
	But I don't want to say maybe you should take a collar.
	If you've got a pension company, you should maybe take a collar on it.
	Yeah, grab that before someone else does.
	It might be gone.
	Yeah, and then get some cash.
	Anyway.
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the bleach cycle, John.
	Hey!
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning, our ships are seat boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to our trolls over there, the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Let's do a troll count.
	Bam!
	Ah!
	We cracked it!
	2038.
	First 2K Plus show.
	Hello, everybody.
	Good work, troll.
	Wait, let's...
	Get the party horn out.
	Holy crap.
	The horn.
	We're so happy.
	Thank you.
	Three, two, one.
	There we go.
	So that's noagendastream.com where you can find at least 2,000 trolls today.
	Oh, hang out there.
	Listen to the live stream.
	Shut up, trolls.
	Listen to the live stream.
	But also, it streams podcasts.
	And these are all commercial-free, corporate money-free, value for value.
	Drop on by.
	Get an invite there for noagendasocial.com, which is the only social network that is...
	And it's part of the Federation, so you can get to us.
	You can follow any of us through the Mastodon system.
	It's noagendasocial.com.
	You can follow me, Adam, at noagendasocial.com, and go to the troll room to get an invite for that, noagendastream.com.
	And a big thank you to our artists for episode 1236.
	We titled that one, Kootube.
	It kind of worked out as a title, as the World Health Organization.
	And this was another one, and this might explain the denial of service attack that we received from perceived Chinese actors.
	If you look at the art for that episode, which Darren O'Neill expertly put together, the Mickey Mouse outline with the Chinese flag, color, and stars, with the subscript one world together.
	I wonder if that irked anybody.
	Disney.
	It's a great piece.
	Very nice.
	Tells it like it is, people.
	I think we were done in 30 seconds looking at this art.
	It's like, that's it.
	Darren O'Neill, the man of so many talents.
	Do these guys have a website we can take down?
	Well, they don't really have a website.
	They got...
	It's scattered here and there.
	It's Dvorak.org.
	Cosmic Weenie.
	Yeah, well, take down that Cosmic Weenie.
	It's propagating bad anti-Chinese stuff, which it is, you and your PDFs.
	Actually, I don't have any Chinese material on there.
	Really?
	No.
	You should get some.
	Not that I can think of.
	You should get some.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the art that is uploaded.
	It's where you can participate if you want.
	Thanks, Paul Couture, Sir Paul, for getting it back online.
	Who knows what was going on?
	Whether it was the denial of service or certification issues.
	It never ends.
	None of it does.
	But we're still on the air.
	They can't take us down like YouTube, that's for sure.
	They have to do a lot more work.
	It's not just a phone call to Susan Wojcicki.
	NoahGenerator.com.
	Thank you very much, Darren O'Neill.
	And now is the time of the show.
	And by the way, by the way, so do you think, you know, do you think China has any influence?
	I mean, Google's still doing a deal with China, aren't they?
	I believe so, yeah.
	Well, then China, I mean, the problem with doing a deal with a repressive regime that wants to censor everything you do, that means they want to censor everything you do, not just in China.
	It's what they do.
	It's like, yeah, we want you to be this way in China.
	Yeah, you got to do this, you got to do that, follow our rules.
	Oh, we must follow the rules of the country that we're doing business in.
	That country says, well, if you're going to be so easy, you're going to be such a pushover.
	Why don't we just have you follow the same kind of rules someplace else, like in the United States?
	We don't like the content you're posting on YouTube.
	Please take it down.
	That's exactly right.
	And we ask nicely.
	So, okay.
	Anyway, continue.
	You were praising Darren.
	Well, I had actually moved on from Darren to say I'd like to praise some of our producers who came in with extraordinary support for the show and our value-for-value system.
	Yeah, we had a good day today.
	And on top of the list is Sir Onimus of Dogpatch and Loris Lobovia.
	Boomski.
	And his code number for this show is 1307.
	That is, I'll repeat, 1307 for you taking notes out there.
	So, with his generous contribution, he sent a generous note.
	Nice.
	Ramadan Mubarak.
	Goat karma worked.
	Soon the goats will be used to feed the poor.
	Thank you and all the producers that celebrated Easter, Passover, and now Ramadan under this plague of perpetual virus.
	Your hard work inoculates listeners from perpetual mania.
	Also, thank you also for your value for value paradigm.
	This is capitalism at its best, transparent and wholly dependent on each week's hard work.
	True.
	No agenda listeners understand the real programming that comes from commercial M5M. They understand Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos and the other elites benefit financially by perpetuating the COVID-19 hysteria.
	These people are not Mother Teresa and will never be elevated to sainthood for their virus efforts.
	They will only see more financial gain.
	Their disciples expect crumbs from their success to fall on them so they can imitate the lifestyle and mimic the perceived goodness towards humanity.
	Some elites are left out.
	Most big businesses use Windows, not Apple or Chrome for remote access.
	So Apple and Google's way is in through enhanced tracking software they can use for future revenue enhancement and maybe a few extra hardware sales or cloud subscribers.
	I love you, Animas!
	No Agenda listeners and our No Agenda show hosts understand wealth and fame do not create wisdom or knowledge.
	Wealth and fame only create advertising dollars from vendors to sell to us slaves.
	Elites ran all the governments until 250 years ago.
	It was radical to suggest the government of the people, by the people, and for the people could exist.
	87 years later, a man asked the question, will it perish from this earth?
	150 years after his question, the war with the elites continues.
	It will never end!
	No jingles, no karma.
	Sir Onimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia is always so wonderful, not just to get your support, but your wisdom that you bestow upon us.
	I'm so happy the goat karma worked.
	Remember, he had problems with his, what do you call him?
	What's his flock of goats?
	What is it called again?
	A school, a yard, gosh, we had it on the show.
	We should know this.
	A tribe, I think.
	Is it a tribe?
	Was it a tribe of goats?
	Yeah, I think it is a tribe.
	A tribe of goats.
	I wish I had some friends to celebrate Ramadan with.
	In Amsterdam, I always went to the Purple Rain coffee shop in Breda.
	Actually, when I lived in Belgium, I'd drive up, and on Ramadan, when the sun set, the guys at the coffee shop would let a few customers in, and they had the most unbelievable spread of food.
	So fantastic.
	Yeah.
	So, I wish we had some of that.
	From the troll room, we have a couple of options for the code that Seronymous has bestowed upon us today, 1307.
	The first guess is that he may be sending us prime numbers.
	Apparently 1307 is a prime number.
	Oh, okay.
	And the other guess, which only a troll could do, is you need to count the numbers properly.
	You need to look at them in their beauty.
	So it's 1307.
	If you do 7 plus 3 minus 1, that's 9.
	7 plus 3 plus 1 is 11.
	What do you get?
	9-11.
	Anyone can do that.
	Thank you, Sironymous.
	I'm sure that was not the meaning of his code.
	Andrew Bloomer's next on the list with $999.99.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	With this donation, bring me safely tonight.
	Hood, you'll toss in that extra penny.
	Yeah, I'll do it right now.
	There you go.
	I'd like to be named Sir Andrew Knight of the Unapologetic Pale Males.
	Nice.
	Let's bring curry and Oreo to the round table.
	Curry and...
	No, not Oreo.
	Creo.
	What is Creo?
	I don't know.
	C-R-I-O. Okay.
	Curry and Creo.
	I'm putting that on.
	Creo.
	My wife and I truly appreciate the immediate deconstruction and...
	Excuse me, I agree that donating to the best podcast in the universe is a great way to spend part of the stimulus money we're borrowing from our future generations.
	Yes, indeed.
	Outstanding, yes.
	A quick OTG note, I've recently gone semi-OTG with the purchase of a second phone, the Lite Phone 2, which allows me to leave my Android at home the majority of the time.
	Keep the media deconstruction coming, gents.
	I'd like to hear 999 and just send your cash, followed by some lockdown, let up karma for us all.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	You've got karma.
	And we'll see Andrew at the roundtable later.
	Very nice.
	He will.
	Hey, idiot.
	Conquer California 73210.
	Greeting gents from Baron Hey, idiot.
	In the East Bay lockdown zone where all the gloved hands are sweaty and the eyeglasses are foggy.
	I felt compelled to donate when I saw the Saturday newsletter claim that Dvorak.org was under cyber attack.
	I don't doubt for a minute.
	That's true.
	But in the unlikely event, it was simply a clever scheme to drum up sympathy donations.
	Great idea!
	It worked!
	Wait, did you throw a puppy in there?
	No, I didn't.
	No puppy, no symphony.
	Okay, I'll stop you.
	That was not, it was a fact.
	And the donations were fine.
	It wasn't like they were running out of money.
	But that was a fact, that that was happening, and I was irked by it, and so I put it at the top, because I didn't normally put a link to the divorce.org slash NA. But as an idea, I don't do that.
	No.
	No, that's not.
	If I put the sad dog on the newsletter, it's because the numbers are low.
	It's because it's bad.
	Period.
	Yes.
	If I send a second notice out, it's because, you know, it's the reasons.
	So I know it's a clever scheme.
	And it would be a great idea, and believe me, I knew in advance when I wrote it out there, I said, I bet you somebody thinks this is just bullshit.
	Anyway, he continues, but he donated, so I think that's good.
	So I hereby submit my Ask Backwards 732.1 US dollars donation that I've suddenly decided just now, is your fair share of my IRS bailout bonanza bonus I'm spending quick because the rate they're printing money will be at Carter-level inflation soon.
	I don't know about that.
	It won't even be worth an executive producer credit.
	I disagree.
	We don't think so.
	It's immunized money.
	Well, it's not only that, but we have not...
	You know, the...
	The mechanism that creates inflation is really very difficult to trigger when the U.S. dollar is the standard currency used around the world as the principal exchange values.
	In fact, we make a point of assassinating leaders who try to do something different.
	And that makes it really hard.
	We control.
	And in fact, the dollar is getting stronger if you look at the exchange rates than the other currencies.
	So inflation is not...
	It's not within, you can't, I don't see it ahead.
	Maybe five years.
	But I don't even, maybe not.
	Now you sound like Trump.
	Maybe it'll work, maybe not.
	Maybe it'll be great, maybe not.
	But yeah, so I'm not looking forward to, and we don't want that anyway.
	Taylor Butch, uh, Taylor B. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Please provide a dedouching followed by a Trump aroused Biden whole load Hillary too delicious.
	You've been dedouched.
	It was hard to get it aroused, and it is hard to get it aroused, but we got it aroused.
	I'm gonna give you the whole load today.
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	Sick.
	People are sick.
	Sick.
	Ugh.
	Taylor B. in Lewiston.
	I'm not saying her or his last name because I got no note.
	It might be anonymity, but 54321.
	I looked under the first name.
	I looked under the last name.
	I looked under the word donation, which is what people should put on their subject line if they're sending a note about donations.
	I found nothing.
	So send us something, Taylor, and we'll get it read later.
	Sir J-Boy in Aldi, Virginia, 500.
	Forgive me, Podfather and JCD.
	It has been too long since my last donation.
	And me simply sponging off the fellow producers.
	I can be a douchebag no more.
	Please accept my humble donations toward the best podcast in the universe.
	Sincerely, Sir J-Boy.
	Well, I'm going to give him a dedouching then, even though he didn't ask for it.
	Is it appropriate?
	Or that this person?
	I have no objection.
	You've been de-douched.
	Another missing note from Certificate of Authenticity, and I don't know how that nickname got in there, if there wasn't a note to begin with.
	I'm working on the back office and figuring out why, but Huntsville, Alabama, 33533.
	Waldorf is next in Sunrise, Minnesota nuts, 333.
	This donation is honored by my dad, Eugene Waldorf, who recently passed from this world in February of many accomplishments.
	This was the first man to teach me how to sniff out the bullshit and think critically.
	Nice.
	This is my third donation at 333.
	And with the help of Adam kicking in one cent.
	Thank you.
	There it is.
	I will finally save a coveted seat.
	You saved a penny, too, by the way.
	A coveted seat at the round table, and he's got the accounting.
	From henceforth, I wish to be known as Sir Seabee, Knight of the Black Thumbnails.
	If you'd be so kind, I might enjoy some grandma's pancakes and some brewed IPA at the round table.
	As always, your deconstruction is ahead of the curve, of course.
	And I'm not referring to the flattened one.
	My amygdala, which is a...
	By the way, you know, the flattened curve meme is interesting.
	And you know what else is...
	I'm going to forget this so I'm going to say it now.
	You know, it's all these douchebags doing their normal network TV shows from home and the local news guys are at home, you know, and they don't really have to be.
	The media is exempt, but they're all at home anyway because it's virtue signaling.
	Why are they all growing beards?
	Yeah, I've noticed that, too.
	What is the point?
	I'm at home.
	I've got to grow a beard.
	You look like it's a scrubby beard.
	It's not a very generally speaking...
	I believe I can explain this to you because I have had similar feelings.
	When you were on television every day, as I have been throughout my life...
	Certainly half of my adult life.
	Every single day.
	You got your hair.
	You got your makeup.
	You got your shaving.
	You have grooming.
	And you have to do it every single day.
	And then what I always do on weekends, boom, I got a beard.
	That thing's growing down to my knees.
	So, that's what these guys are so tired of grooming every day for television.
	Oh, these poor babies.
	The guys that work in offices have to groom, too.
	I'm just giving you the reality of the...
	The bus driver has to groom.
	The guy who runs the cable car.
	I'm just giving you the reality of the daily television worker.
	Oh, those poor babies are working their asses so hard that they gotta grow a beard when they get home.
	Ugh.
	Ugh.
	That's the answer.
	I'm old.
	I have to grow a beard.
	You may not like it.
	I'm not arguing that you're not right, but this is childish.
	Well, of course, especially if you're on television.
	That's when you've got to go back to the grooming routine.
	But this is...
	It's something.
	I mean, why the beards in general?
	What's up with the beards?
	Stop with the beards.
	Well, the beards are the beards, but these are people that don't normally have beards, and now they're working from home, and they got beards.
	A good old-fashioned beard is when you were gay, and that was your buddy.
	Yeah.
	You know, now we gotta have real beards.
	Come on.
	Uh...
	As always, your deconstruction is ahead of the curve.
	I'm not referring to the flattened one.
	My amygdala remains small and healthy thanks to you.
	Keep up the good work.
	Please send out the best jobs karma to all in need.
	Toss out a random Sharpton and a goat karma to finish it off.
	Sir CB Knight of the Black Thumbnail Sunrise, Minnesota.
	Please call out my nephew Anthony as a douchebag.
	Okay.
	Alright, here we go.
	Could this ultimately end up backfiring on the Republicans?
	Are they over-jumping the runway here?
	You've got...
	A classic Sharpton.
	Over-jumping the runway.
	Millions of dollars.
	Millions of dollars.
	That guy gets paid more than the two of us combined for the number of years put together.
	Yes.
	Michael Goodell in Lillano Court County or something.
	I don't know.
	He's in Michigan.
	27136.
	He'll be the associate executive producer for show 1237.
	Come on, arrows.
	You can work.
	You're doing a fine job deconstructing the Wuhan flu pandemic.
	So I thought I'd send you a donation now that the influx of support seems to have abated.
	Somewhat.
	It did, last show.
	While listening to your show with my smoking hot girlfriend, Dame Chardonnay of the Lilunao Grapefields, I often find myself saying something just before you do.
	More often, John, than Adam.
	I guess because I'm an old fart, too.
	Well, you got a smoking hot girlfriend.
	What difference does it make?
	The amount represents word count on my novel.
	Hard to set the mystery aside to write a dystopian novel in which society is taken over by the public health industrial complex.
	27,000 words in a little over three weeks is a hell of a lot.
	I'm trying to write fiction, but the real world keeps getting ahead of me.
	I thought about calling it Brave New World, but that's been taken.
	Maybe I'll go with Scared New World.
	Bro, you're doing a documentary.
	Didn't you know that?
	Can I please have a China is Asshole, that's true, and some publishing karma, Michael.
	Yes, thank you, Michael.
	China is Asshole!
	That's true.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, some big-ass publishing karma.
	There you go.
	A. Yancey, another missing in action note in Crosette, Virginia, 229.
	Richard Spasto in Burbank, California, 20202.
	And he sent a note in which I know you answered because you sent something back to him.
	Yes, well, I believe he is the...
	Why can't I search anymore in my...
	Where's my search box in my email?
	What the hell?
	Yes, he's the one who wrote one of the specificity and sensitivity memos.
	But there was some other stuff in there.
	He wanted some karma or something, I think.
	Here's the thing.
	thing i i want to look up his email but for some reason and maybe this is new because i on on the windows machine here in the studio i use uh outlook and you could just go to an inbox and right above that would be a little thing where you could click on it and you could search and that's now gone there's i can't search you Weird.
	Well, let me just type it into Squirrel Mail real quick.
	Boom!
	There it is.
	Fucker.
	But this is the weirdest thing.
	I don't understand.
	What did they do?
	Windows, Windows.
	Hello from the Land of the Rising Sun.
	Obligatory.
	I love the show, which is true.
	I kicked myself off for not finding it until 2016.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Then he goes on to this specificity thing, and he says, although I'm a lowly UCLA Bruin, one whose inferiority complex was assuaged somewhat by the knowledge that, just like an exalted California golden bear, I thought chaos was pronounced chouse well into high school.
	Yeah.
	I want to point out that your characterization, anyway, he goes on about, he goes back into it.
	He goes back and forth, so I'm looking for his Stuff that he wants us to do.
	Anyways, just keep up the great work.
	And he's in Hiroshima.
	There you go.
	All right.
	Onward to the, I think, next to the last donation.
	Oh, Sir Economic Hitman came in with, and by the way, that was Richard Spasto in Burbank, 20202.
	Sir Economic Hitman came in with $200.
	Greetings from Barron, soon to be Barron Economic Hitman.
	Single request, Mort Klein Tourette's Giggle.
	With this donation, I have reached Barron status.
	Adam, do you remember me from the Austin meetup?
	I was the guy wearing the Congressional Dish shirt.
	Yes.
	A few weeks ago, I asked you to put a link on the show notes to promote the beta release of my iPhone app.
	Did I not do that?
	Mancala World.
	A turn-based strategy game dating back to the ancient civilization.
	The game is a local two-player mode versus computer and online play.
	I'm trying to get hired as an iOS developer.
	So every person who tests my app will be helping me find a job.
	Can you please put this link in the show notes again?
	It would mean the world to me!
	Testflight.apple.com slash, and there's some bunch of numbers, which you'll put in the show notes.
	Let me just say, I've put it in the show notes under today, the heading today.
	Okay.
	So he's got his requests, which was the Mort Klein.
	I don't know.
	What is this Mort Klein giggle?
	Tourette's giggle.
	I don't know.
	You're the dreads expert.
	Okay, thanks.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	I don't know what he's talking about either.
	Mort Klein.
	Oh, here we go.
	I found it.
	Oh, it exists.
	And what else besides Mort Klein, Giggle?
	What else did he want?
	It doesn't seem to be anything else, actually.
	I'll throw in a karma.
	Thank you, Chairman Nadler, Ranking Member Collins, members of the committee.
	First of all, I must say, I have Tourette's Syndrome.
	Sometimes I have tics and make sounds I can't control.
	So please forgive me.
	Mm-hmm.
	You've got karma.
	That's me!
	That's future me testifying.
	Oh, man.
	I had forgotten all about that.
	Yeah, I forgot about it, too.
	Sometimes I make...
	Please forgive me.
	How can you not sit there and go, Dude, that was a good one!
	I love that.
	I'm allowed to laugh.
	There's one thing in life.
	You have the privilege, and since I'm one step removed from you as your partner, I can laugh with you.
	You can laugh.
	I give you permission.
	You can laugh.
	You can laugh.
	That is pretty funny.
	Holy mackerel.
	Well, we want to thank these executive producers and associate executive producers for pulling us through.
	Taylor Olsen left.
	Oh, crap.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought we were done.
	Oh, this is good news.
	I hate being done.
	Taylor Olsen's last in Forest Grove at $200.
	And I do have a note to read from maybe something we missed.
	I couldn't get...
	Eric never got back to me to tell me if we missed this or not.
	But de-douching to Darren Olsen from Kamloops, B.C. De-douching.
	Taylor Olsen.
	Oh, no.
	Darren Olsen.
	You're right.
	You've been de-douched.
	He loves Char, Noah, Taylor, Connor, and Nicole.
	That's where he got the Taylor.
	Now, I have a note from...
	And I don't know, maybe you can check, but David Knauss of the large Knaussers.
	Of the Knauss.
	Isn't it more Knauss?
	I think it was Knauss.
	Knauss, okay.
	But he sent a note in for 300 and something, $300 rats, and he ended up with enough to get his...
	He said, the Canadian government has told families that we are all getting an extra $300 rents per child during the Corona Fest, so I thought I had a better way to handle it than to donate young Julia now.
	It says $300 towards her damehood and her 16th birthday.
	April 19th, no less.
	Then I added $2 to put her over the limit toward damehood.
	Anyway, and so we got the accounting.
	So I don't remember doing this because I would have remembered this note.
	He says, although I'd like to claim the executive producer credit for myself, Come on, you Scandinavian parents, what else could you possibly have to do with the money but to pitch in what you otherwise have to do with it?
	I recently hit a friend in the mouth and he has thanked me for balancing out his listening as he was a hard lefty and he tells me that this show calms him down.
	In response to that, I think the only proper thing to do is to call him out.
	Jeremy, you're a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	This is what you get, bro.
	Also to Trevor and Max Collette, you are both on notice as douchebags.
	Douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	Okay, so it's pronounced Nas like nausea.
	Told you Nas.
	Okay, so I think, I don't remember doing this, so it won't hurt to do it, but I think we should put Julia on the nighting list as Dame Julia on Weaver of Words, first of the Nas.
	Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I gotta put this in now.
	So it's Julia, Julia Nas.
	Nas becomes Dame Julia.
	Weaver of words, first of the Nas.
	Sorry, but that just sounds funny.
	It's the Rona, man.
	And so, you got that written down?
	I do.
	Okay, she also needs a birthday call out for her 16th birthday.
	For Julia's birthday?
	Yeah.
	And when is that?
	Today?
	April 19th.
	Oh, so it's belated.
	Last Sunday, yeah.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	So, Julia Nas, Sweet 16, last Sunday.
	And?
	And?
	And there's more.
	But wait, there's more.
	You'll get twice as much for just a small handling fee.
	Please include chai tea and apples with peanut butter.
	At the round table.
	Chai tea with apples and peanuts.
	I do love apples and peanut butter.
	A lot of people do.
	But the mutton and mead is still what people always go for at the end.
	When it really comes down to it.
	Brass tacks.
	You don't get it everywhere.
	That's the reason.
	Brass tacks.
	Anyone can get apples and peanut butter.
	All right.
	These are the executive producers and associate executive producers who made it all happen for us today.
	For all of us, this is, after all, your podcast, the No Agenda Show, value for value, produced by hundreds, often thousands, in many different ways.
	That includes knowledge, particularly mathematics, clips, artwork, and thank goodness finances.
	And that's the only way it will work, and that's why we're doing it that way, because we could not...
	We would not be talking about this if we had to rely on advertising, even if it was an agency that also handled pharmaceutical.
	If it was a whole different ad, they still would walk away from us.
	They can't even be associated.
	And so we're happy we haven't done that.
	12 years running.
	Thank you very much.
	Of course, these titles you can use anywhere.
	You are an associate executive producer or an executive producer of No Agenda Show 1,237.
	Looking forward to thanking more people at the end and to your support for our upcoming show, which will be on Thursday.
	I think you pretty much know what's happening when it comes down to temperature.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	I don't like what I do.
	Shut up, Steve. - Just a brief moment.
	So I remember to tell you this.
	There was a thread on Twitter.
	I think Jason Calacanis tagged me.
	Oh no, someone tagged me.
	It was about Luminary.
	I made a comment about it earlier.
	Remember Luminary?
	This was the podcast network that was going to become the HBO of podcasts.
	$100 million they spent.
	And they had some celeb.
	They had Trevor Noah.
	They had...
	Who was the woman who had her own...
	She actually got the HBO woman.
	What's her name?
	Tracy Ullman?
	No, the girls.
	No.
	Oh, no way.
	Lena Dunham.
	Dunham.
	Yeah, she's fascinating.
	It was subscription only, and Bloomberg reviewed their status.
	Over the past year, the app has been downloaded 200,000 times, which Bloomberg then compares to Stitcher.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	A luminary spokesperson disputed the data, saying it has had nearly 800,000 downloads.
	Anyway...
	Our podcast gets more than that.
	Yes, the point is...
	One podcast, not a network of podcasts.
	They could have saved...
	For a million dollars, 1%, John and I would have saved you $99 million, which you've probably blown away.
	Bookers and limos.
	And expensive gear, Neumann microphones.
	So Calacanis, Jason Calacanis, very famous.
	Are they going to go up for auction?
	No.
	I wouldn't mind getting a hold of one of those Neumanns.
	I would wait.
	I don't think it's done yet.
	And Calacanis, who is a...
	I can't help but like him, but what a blowhard.
	Here he is.
	He's...
	The reason this failed, I guess it's now considered fail luminary.
	He has to talk with a slight lisp.
	The reason this failed is because best podcasters didn't own equity.
	I explained the roadmap.
	You get Joe Rogan, Sam Horse, Sam Harris.
	You get Leo Laporte.
	You get Tim Ferriss.
	And then you give everybody equity.
	Not just some VC firm.
	Equity.
	Everyone gets some equity.
	And then you have the HBO of podcasting.
	And to which I say, Jason, come on, man.
	We did this already.
	No, it's not going to happen that way.
	It's not going to work.
	And this whole concept of tribal media is blowing up.
	It's how it works.
	Everybody sustains their own little group.
	You got some overlap, but that's what it is.
	We have our group and it grows.
	By the way, your Calacanis was spot on.
	Thank you.
	I was waiting to hear.
	I needed a little bit of input.
	Thank you.
	I thought I did pretty well.
	I'll work on it because I can do better.
	You nailed it.
	That's what I'm telling you.
	You're not getting enough arrogance.
	John, John, John.
	Let me tell you.
	When I was talking to Mark Cuban, he said exactly the same thing.
	You've got to drop more names.
	More names.
	Listen, when Elon and I were looking at the first investment, and then we had Eddie Q from Apple come over.
	I've got to work on it, because I can't do too long.
	I lose it.
	It's stupid.
	It's hard to sustain.
	It's not easy.
	I'm trying.
	By the way, Calacanis, of course, will get a copy of this.
	Somebody will send it to him.
	He'll think it's hilarious.
	Well, he should think it's hilarious, because he's always doing my voice.
	Yeah, he's great.
	Yeah.
	The world is colorful because of people like Jason Calacanis.
	And by the way, good job on calling out Micro Rick.
	What was his name?
	The guy, Newsman Rick, the podcast that we talked about.
	The guy who had great mic technique.
	Oh, the mic technique guy.
	What's that guy's name?
	Ralph, frankly.
	Frank, quite frankly.
	He played that whole bit on his show and was really happy and was like, oh my gosh, John C. Dvorak.
	I like this guy.
	And he called us OG podcasters.
	I thought it was great.
	Just my analysis, if someone wants to listen to this show, it's more of a philosophy show than it is a news analysis show by far as I'm concerned.
	But he's got the right kind of a real kind of everyman philosophy that makes a lot of sense.
	He really should be on radio because he's a chatterbox.
	He can just go for days.
	Modern talk radio is mostly a guy talking.
	That's a good point.
	He could definitely do AM radio.
	Yes, he's an AM radio type guy who could...
	I don't know how many people can do it, but I know there's a few.
	Limbaugh's the best example.
	He's dying.
	In other words, you can talk, literally talk for three hours.
	Not solid, because there are commercial breaks, but you can pretty much just talk for three hours.
	Quite frankly, he could do that.
	Easy.
	He just goes.
	I mean, you've heard him.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but that's very radio professional, high-end radio guy.
	Okay, enough about other shows.
	I know.
	I'm going to get some more publicity from him.
	Why do you think I brought it up?
	I was like, let's get some publicity.
	What do you think I'm doing here?
	Let's get some publicity off this guy.
	That's right, everybody.
	OTG.
	We're going off the grid.
	I'm an OTG kind of guy.
	OTG kind of guy.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Off the grid.
	Many people now, people tweeting and emailing me saying, hey, what phone do I need to get now?
	We're going to be tracked everywhere.
	I will say...
	Where's my data sheet?
	How do I configure it?
	I forward you a note from one of the guys who just sent it to the general box, and the guy makes a good point.
	What he wants and what he needs is really a web page Of your way of going about this, so you don't have to explain it on the show.
	That's what I think.
	A little write-up.
	Ladies and gentlemen, here's how you configure the Go Flip 3 from Alcatel.
	You buy the phone, you put your SIM card in it, that's it.
	There's no step three.
	Don't use the Google app that's in there.
	That's all.
	That's all you have to do.
	And if you want to have T-Mobile service, or at least get one that's cracked that will let you use a hotspot.
	Because that's the whole point.
	It's a phone, you can text, you can do basic web browsing, do a bit of email, and it's a hotspot so you can carry your tablet or something turned off, switched off in your bag, whatever.
	What is the Google app you're talking about that's in there?
	It has the Google app, the search app.
	Oh, you just don't want to use that?
	No, if you use that, then Google will know where you are.
	But you can also turn off all location.
	It's very simple.
	No one needs a webpage for this.
	What you should have done is listen to me two years ago when I was saying this day would come.
	I'm looking at you, Australia.
	The federal government is set to launch its contact tracing app today.
	The app will help health authorities identify people who have come into contact with a coronavirus patient.
	Some people have expressed privacy concerns about downloading the software but the government says safeguards are in place and the information will be destroyed once the COVID crisis is over.
	A senior federal government minister is worried complacency is setting in as Australians are tiring of social distancing measures.
	New data shows there has been a big spike in the number of people accessing directions on their smartphone over the past week.
	It's a sign people are out and about rather than staying at home to combat coronavirus.
	Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has told Sky News, we risk undoing all our great work if we're not careful.
	If people believe that we're immune in our country, clearly we're not.
	We were tracking in the same direction that Italy and other countries were headed in, and we've been able to offset that through the social distancing measures, through the announcements that the National Cabinet has presided over as well.
	So we don't want to give that up.
	Yeah, I can almost guarantee this will become some form of obligatory.
	It'll be the same thing as staying home.
	Slaves will do it.
	And that's why you want a flip phone.
	That's your best excuse.
	I'm sorry.
	I really want to comply.
	I got my bandana on my head.
	I got a flip phone.
	Don't work.
	I have in my possession, although sadly here at the studio workstation, encrypted.
	And it's not something that I can do on the fly right here.
	I don't have that on this...
	I have a presentation deck with all of the different tracking companies that are involved in many, well, Colorado, for sure, as a group out there doing stuff, but perhaps for all the United States, and I'm sorry, I will decrypt that and have it for Thursday.
	It's incredible.
	There's five different tracking companies that are all integrating data into these apps.
	And they sell it, of course.
	Of course.
	And it's everything from Bluetooth to the Bluetooth beacons and stores.
	It's incredible how much data they have.
	And you heard in this report, it's just as if it's the most normal thing in the world.
	Hey, we're looking at you all traveling around.
	You're using your phone for directions.
	Gee, how do you know that?
	How does someone else in the government know that you're using your phone for directions?
	Not that you have your GPS on, you're using your phone for directions.
	Well, guess who tells them that?
	Exactly.
	Let's look at Hong Kong.
	Scandinavia is building their app.
	That government immediately implemented quarantine measures for residents and visitors arriving at the airport.
	That included these monitoring bracelets to stop people from leaving their homes.
	As soon as you get out of the house and then the government would get alert and then the health care or the police would come catch you and then it would be up to six months prison.
	Six months in prison?
	Six months!
	Yeah!
	Now we're talking!
	The wristbands are like hospital bracelets.
	Each one has a Bluetooth module and battery.
	Those under quarantine have to download the app.
	Once at home, they walk around, so the app can calibrate how big the home is with the wristband.
	So this could be someone's at Customs and Border Patrol or Health Authority.
	A Vancouver company, TraceSafe, is behind the technology and the Chinese territory is its first test case.
	There's a thin piece of metal that goes all the way around the bracelet that actually provides an alert if it's cut or stretched.
	So there are tamper-resistant pieces to the design.
	CEO Wayne Lloyd is pitching the devices to other governments, including Canada.
	But in this country, it would have to pass a constitutional test that balances privacy rights with public health.
	Balance.
	I love constitutional rights that are balanced.
	Let's balance it against something else.
	It's either a right or it's not.
	Thank you.
	There's something about these wristbands that I think...
	Yeah, these wristbands.
	This isn't the same thing as when you get in prison and you're incarcerated, you have to stay home and they put a thing on your foot.
	Isn't it the same thing, basically?
	No.
	No, it's a little different.
	And I have another clip that it's a similar technology, maybe the same for all I know, just a different sales window at this company.
	This communicates with Bluetooth or probably near-field communication.
	With your phone.
	And then your phone does all the tattling.
	So it's not...
	It has to be Bluetooth.
	The NFC is just...
	It's too close, right?
	It's too close.
	It would be Bluetooth.
	But it's...
	I guess it does have a battery in there.
	It has a small battery.
	Well, listen to this version of it, which is similar, but it will be more fun to get people to wear.
	Some Northeast hospitals, as I mentioned, are going ahead and using new technology to keep a closer watch over those patients who leave the hospital.
	We're talking about a company called Massimo, a medical technology company that's created a safety net device, as it's called.
	It's a disposable smart wristband attached to a pulse oximeter, which then tapes around your finger.
	And it basically monitors your vitals like your oxygen level, your pulse, and your respiration rate.
	So when those levels kind of go off where they're supposed to be, the device then sends a signal to the patient's smartphone, which then alerts the doctor.
	The clinician has a dashboard of all of the patients they're monitoring.
	They're seeing your life parameters change in every single minute.
	They get an update of your data set, and they can see what your live data is within the hospital.
	Now, the FDA approved this device to be used nationwide about 15 days ago.
	About 60 hospitals have already signed up to use this, with almost 600 more on tap in the process to use this worldwide, really.
	So a lot of different advances we're seeing now.
	This device, Jillian, was meant for opioid addicts, actually, and then the pandemic hit and everything changed.
	Some good tech out there, baby, if you want to be tracked like a dog!
	Before you continue with this, I keep trying to get the timeline on this correct.
	And it was maybe five years ago, because I know Natalie Morris was into this when she was still in the country.
	And it was a fad, especially among a lot of tech women.
	And it was, you're basically monitoring your, everything about you 24-7 all the time and as part of some, you know, you're hooked up to a bunch of devices all the time and you got a thing in your pocket and you got a thing on your fingers and you got, you're just, and you, and everything you do is monitored for some self-improvement thing.
	Remember this?
	Does anybody remember this?
	Wait, did that ever stop?
	It didn't stop.
	Well, it was a fad, and everyone was bragging about it, and I don't know anyone bragging about this anymore, so I think it just kind of came and went because I'm sick of it.
	It had a name.
	What, you mean the circles and everyone's doing the competition with working out against each other?
	Are you talking about that?
	No, no, no.
	It was very specific.
	It was only a personal thing.
	It wasn't a competitive, you know, my heart rate's competing for your heart.
	Quantified self?
	Yeah, something like that.
	That's what the troll room is saying.
	Yeah, that's right.
	The troll rooms, again, got it right.
	Again, again, tell me we don't have some value.
	That's what they're there for.
	The quantified self.
	This was like a fad.
	If anyone knows that, they may have the timeline.
	And when it was popular, I think it was five years ago, and it lasted for about a year.
	And there's all these people that came up with gear.
	Oh, that's going to be the next big thing.
	We're all going to do this.
	No one's going to do this, unless you're a lunatic.
	Well, here's what I would say.
	Looks like this started closer to 2007.
	It's 2010.
	It all surrounds the TED conferences.
	The quantified self refers to both the cultural phenomenon of self-tracking with technology and to a community of users and makers of self-tracking tools who share an interest in self-knowledge through numbers.
	Ha!
	Damn.
	This is the way to soften up.
	Life-logging.
	Wait, wait.
	Life-logging.
	Wasn't that it?
	Life-logging?
	Life-logging was part of this.
	Life-logging!
	I remember that.
	I'm life-logging, man.
	Yeah, life-logging.
	It was a quantified stuff.
	It was all part of this very short-lived phenomenon that was like, I thought it was something onerous about it.
	Wasn't this what Lori Frick was into?
	That was her whole thing in Austin, the artist.
	I don't remember Lori Frick being involved with it.
	Tracked everything, then made graphs out of it and got the city to pay her to paint it next to Whole Foods on the wall.
	Amazing.
	Oh, well, whatever works.
	It's amazing.
	Well done.
	Sales.
	Sales.
	Well, regardless, all of this data is going to eventually wind up with the government.
	No doubt about it.
	And the insurance companies.
	And the insurance companies.
	And we're so happy that the data mining company, who apparently has been tapped to help and contribute to the U.S. government to help make good recommendations based on data, which will be health who apparently has been tapped to help and contribute to the U.S. government to help make good recommendations based on data, which Which will be health and human services data, is Palantir from our old buddy Peter Thiel.
	Palantir, which is the spy database of the world.
	Yeah.
	Original code rumored to be stolen from even longer ago.
	The promise database.
	We've talked about it.
	People get killed if they look into this.
	Exactly.
	In fact, when I brought it up on the show, you didn't want to talk about it because you said I was going to get killed.
	You could be killed.
	Yeah, I don't want any part of it.
	Before we go into the break, I do have this break from Sweden.
	I'm not ready for a break just yet.
	Sweden.
	Yes.
	And this is under S-E-D-E-N. Somebody left the W off.
	That back office is just bad.
	So...
	This is the guy, he's an epidemiologist.
	First of all, I cut out the two and a half minute intro to this character who's got every degree and he's just this genius character.
	Epidemiology is partly responsible for the way the Swedes are handling the COVID thing.
	And he is the mentor of the Swedish government official who's actually running it.
	And so he has a few things to say that are interesting, and again, some obscure podcast.
	Of course.
	That is today's theme, and it comes out of Sweden.
	It's very interesting.
	I have the name of it.
	It's called, let me see if I got it on my book, in the book.
	It's called Lockdown TV, and the podcast is Unheard.
	And I just wanted to begin by getting your kind of summary thoughts of Of how Sweden is differing from other countries and why you think that is?
	The main reason is that we, or the Swedish government, decided early in January that the measures we should take against the pandemic should be evidence-based.
	And when you start looking around for the measures that are being taken now by different countries, you find that very few of them have the shred of evidence-based.
	But one we know that's known for 150 years or more, and that is washing your hands is good for you and good for others when you're in an epidemic.
	But the rest, like border closures, school closures, social distancing, there's almost no science behind most of these.
	It's so amazing what happened here.
	And we did it to ourselves globally.
	Bunch of douchebag sheeps.
	Sheeps.
	The media is the driving force behind it.
	With China.
	And China.
	China did...
	I remember, it was only a few months ago, the driving force was China taking an unprecedented step of closing down a city of a million people.
	That is what the media...
	I think it's 11 million people, wasn't it?
	What did I say?
	11 million people.
	You said a million.
	No, 11 million.
	And then they closed down other ones.
	They had a total of 50 million people on lockdown.
	And the media was the catalyst, but why did China do this?
	It's never been done before.
	Why did they do it?
	Was it just to put the...
	Because it's a scary thing.
	It's exactly like the movies.
	So it's China, whether the virus was theirs or not, that lockdown was bullcrap.
	And the media took it, ran with it, and we all got scared, and we, personally, are girly men.
	So, yes, you made your point.
	Was that that whole clip?
	Yep.
	Ah!
	I think we lost the connection.
	No, I hear you.
	I said yes.
	Oh, I didn't hear you say yes.
	I said yep, yep.
	None of the Chinese guys are flipping a switch.
	I'm going to edit all that out right back to the not getting killed part.
	Okay.
	Let's go to the Sweden part two.
	So what is the current policy in Sweden?
	Social distancing is part of the policy, isn't it?
	What is the regime that Sweden has gone with?
	The main difference to other countries is that you're not locked up in your home.
	If you go out to buy food or groceries or drugs, I mean medicines, there's no police to stop you in the street and ask you what you're doing here.
	That's one thing.
	People are asked to stay inside, but there's no reinforcement or enforcement of that.
	People do it anyway.
	So that's one.
	We have the rule that a crowd cannot be bigger than 50 people.
	So I can still have an event for 49 people?
	Yes.
	I would.
	And the schools, the upper schools are closed, secondary education and universities.
	Closed schools after age 15, 16 are open.
	What more do we have?
	Don't the nursing homes or houses for old people are close to visitors?
	So it sounds like it's a moderate social distancing Yes, it is.
	Sorry, it's very similar to the one that the UK had before.
	There was a famous paper by the Imperial College, by the modelers who made models for infectious diseases that came out on the day after you made a U-turn in England.
	Yes, so tell us about that.
	So the original strategy in the UK became known as a kind of herd immunity strategy.
	That's what it was called.
	Before we come on to talk about the imperial model, which I would like to talk about, is it correct to call it herd immunity, and is that the Swedish strategy?
	It's not a strategy, but it's a by-product of the strategy.
	But the strategy is to protect the old and the frail.
	Which is what we've always learned in med school.
	Well, the thing is that he brings up this paper, and I want to mention something when he starts this in the first clip that he talks about evidence-based, science-based, and everybody keeps hounding us, or Pelosi in particular, oh, science, oh, nobody, none of the Republicans like science.
	They don't believe in it.
	They don't believe in science.
	But meanwhile, these guys never follow the scientific method.
	They don't even know what it is, and few of them have ever worked in science.
	Well, that's just a pet peeve of mine.
	Gotcha.
	So he goes on about this paper, which is kind of fascinating.
	I didn't know the details, but let's play that.
	The initial UK response seemed to be similar to what Sweden is doing now, and you thought that was better?
	Yeah.
	No, I think it was very good, actually.
	We were very pleased we were having the same policy as the UK that gave some credibility to what we were doing.
	But then...
	Mr.
	Johnson made his 180 degree turn.
	Yeah, so why, you know, there may have been other political factors involved.
	involved he was definitely under a lot of pressure because lots of European countries were doing a formal lockdown at that point but the turning point did seem to be that interior imperial college report which forecasts 510,000 deaths in the UK with a completely unmitigated
	approach 250,000 deaths with a mitigated approach which is roughly equivalent to what you're doing in Sweden and then it suggests that it might be as few as 20,000 if we did a full suppression or lockdown what was your impression of that paper?
	I think it's not very good and And the thing that they miss a little is that any models for infectious disease spread are very popular.
	Many people do them.
	They're good for teaching.
	They seldom tell you the truth because I make a small parenthesis.
	Which model could have assumed that the outbreak would start in northern Italy, in Europe?
	Difficult to model that one.
	And any such model, it looks complicated.
	There are strange mathematical formula and integral signs and stuff.
	But it rests on the assumptions, and the assumptions in that article will be heavily criticized.
	I won't go through that.
	It will take the rest of your day if I went through them all.
	The paper was never published scientifically.
	It's not peer-reviewed, which your scientific paper should be.
	It's just an internal departmental report from Imperial.
	And it's fascinating.
	I don't think any other scientific endeavor has made such an impression on the world as that rather...
	Bullshit.
	Debatable paper.
	Oh my goodness.
	So here's the bottom line that I'm hearing from scientists other than people named Fauci.
	Burks.
	It probably wouldn't have made, because it's so contagious, it probably would not have made much difference in the contagion, but certainly in the overall death rate in the long run, whether we stayed home or not, unless we took the correct and typical measure of protecting at home people who are older and have weakened immune systems.
	Yeah.
	Jeez.
	So then what is this horrible trick that has been played on us?
	Well, of course, the mentions that Royal College, that is largely funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
	I know.
	So is the Imperial model from...
	Oh, that's the Imperial model.
	That is the Imperial group.
	But so is all the data from the...
	From the University of Washington.
	Healthdata.org.
	Yeah, Chris Murray's model.
	Yeah, it's all Bill Gates.
	Gates has turned into a bad actor.
	Turned into?
	Where have you been?
	Well, it's really disconcerting.
	And I got a note saying, yes, it's pronounced disconcerting.
	Yeah, not disconcerting.
	And I have this bad habit of saying disconcerting.
	It's okay.
	Well, but just to remind you, see, where did I put that?
	Hold on.
	Because that is exactly what you're saying here.
	Here's that flub again from Dr.
	Birx.
	I think that's why the criteria that you can see the Gates that the federal government has recommended.
	Because that's what it is.
	The Gates Foundation is running this show.
	And if you see anything the Gates says, all it is is it's going to be difficult.
	It's going to be very difficult to open up until we have the vaccine.
	I can get a Bill Gates down, too.
	I can work on it.
	It's a little tougher.
	I'll give you a couple of hints, though, what he does.
	And there's other people that sound like Gates, and you can copy them.
	But he has a screwball way of kind of swallowing in the middle of sentences.
	When you have the vaccine...
	But the swallowing is kind of in the middle of things, and he also...
	He's got a whiny voice.
	He's got adenoids.
	Hold on a second.
	You don't have a choice.
	You don't have a choice.
	People don't understand.
	You don't have a choice.
	People act like you have a choice.
	Okay.
	You don't have a choice.
	People act like you have a choice.
	I could get there.
	Okay.
	You could get there.
	I'm working on it.
	All right.
	So now we've caught up.
	I think we've got a clue about what Sweden's up to, and they stood by their guns.
	Boris Johnson became a wimp and flipped a switch on this real fast because of the pressure from the media and the left.
	The left loves the idea of shutting down all these economies because, you know, the only way to fix things is socialism.
	No one has actually said that.
	That's what you...
	I bet you someone has.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	And we do have some people who think this is a fact.
	Yes.
	And the first on the top of the list is...
	As I get my keyboard, anonymous.
	Woo!
	145.33.
	Thanks for being there when we need you.
	And we're going to be here for a while.
	So JD, Baron of Silicon Valley in San Jose, came up with $143.33.
	And as Baron, we have to at least read his note.
	Missed an amazing amount of opportunities.
	I'm not reading the notes.
	Still the chef in.
	133, I don't know.
	I eat once a little girl.
	Yeah, and a goat scream karma.
	Yeah, we'll do all that for you, of course.
	Give me that later.
	Of course we will.
	Warren Sundquist in Calexico, California, 134.
	Somebody's got a birthday coming up?
	Yeah, not just that.
	What better birthday present than becoming a knight?
	So I just sent you the money via PayPal, which if I added to my monthly contribution, 3333, should make my total donations $1,001.
	Sorry to do the day before my birthday, but I didn't receive information about my status check until yesterday.
	When I become a knight, I wish to be Sir Warnout of...
	Oh, so he's on the list.
	Sir Warnout of San Felipe, Baja, California, Mexico.
	Sir Warnout.
	Thanks, and keep up the great work.
	Well, thank you very much, Warren, and we'll see you at the roundtable and on that birthday list.
	So Serena Catania in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, comes in at 123.70, and she wants to know if it brings her to Damehood, so I have to assume that she's been contributing and she thinks it does.
	So we're going to have to put her on the list.
	Let's just put her on the list.
	We won't have to worry about it.
	Okay.
	Well, how come it got missed?
	Well, because I would have missed it, because I think it's an executive decision.
	What's the executive decision?
	To put her on the list, because we don't have her accounting.
	She never sent accounting in.
	Oh, I see the problem.
	Yeah, that's the problem.
	But let's put her on the list.
	Get her, you know, Dame Ladybug.
	I like it.
	Dame Ladybug is on the list.
	You're good to go?
	Tracy Bassano, 12370.
	Um...
	Oh, Count Donna Baroski came in with the fire bottles.
	He's the one who's bitching about my saying disconcerting.
	But he sent a Federation of Planets note in.
	Well, then she stopped the show.
	Here's some monetary thanks for your continued excellent media deconstruction regarding the Wuhan flu.
	We need to reopen the U.S. economy.
	We can determine the risk by comparing the sickness and death rates of the millions of essential workers who stayed on the job with the rates for those who stayed home.
	Yeah.
	In other words, the checkout girl.
	Yes.
	They're not dropping like flies.
	If essential workers were dying like flies, the M5M would be covering it with stories about it, wouldn't they?
	Mm-hmm.
	Yes, they would.
	Instead, we hear anecdotal stories about disease clusters in Chinese-owned meatpacking plants.
	Yeah, it's true.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Note to John D., you sometimes use the word disconcerting when you really meant to say disconcerting.
	Note the T. Cheers.
	Sir Donald, the fire bottles count of Eastern Washington State, Spokane Valley.
	Okay.
	I'll probably continue that bad habit.
	Everyone has a bad habit.
	Donald Ripple in Dresden, Ohio.
	He just says, he had sent a note and says, keep it up.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Another Tim Anonymous, 111.11.
	Monsieur Pierre Lamouche.
	Yeah, Lamouche.
	In Magna, Utah.
	100.
	Joshua Schmidt in Norwood something.
	Norwood somewhere.
	Norwood Young America.
	Norwood Young America, Minnesota.
	I think he's topping off my regular anonymous donation to become a baron.
	I have already negotiated with Sir Gene, Duke of the Republic of Texas, for my estate in Walnut Creek at the Austin Beer Works meetup for the agreed-up sum of a Mexican Coke.
	Bastards doing deals behind my back.
	I'm assuming that this will be acceptable to the peerage committee.
	Henceforth, I would like to be Sir Chris Cohen, Baron of North Austin, and the Hamlet of Pflugerville.
	Please distribute my karma to my fellow citizens, particularly those currently out of work, and take me out with two to the head, and the Reverend Al Resist Rematch.
	Yes, I'll do that all at the end of the segment.
	Thank you.
	See you at the roundtable, man.
	That's cool.
	Ronald Shule came in on Pop Money, 84 bucks.
	I don't know where he's from.
	Kimberly Homony.
	Homony.
	I got the hiccups now.
	8.008.
	She is having a birthday.
	Well, actually, it's her...
	She was hit in the mouth by her smoking hot husband, Danny Homony.
	Homony.
	I think it's Homony.
	Homony.
	Oh, money.
	Just before this insanity started, without the two of you, we surely would have lost it.
	David's 42nd birthday is April 28th, if you could at least add him to the birthday wishes.
	This is his only gift this year as we're tightening up our budgets massively.
	Wow, that's so sweet of you.
	Kimberly.
	He's on the list, Kimberly.
	Sir Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona, 75-75.
	Angela Mackie Rutledge in Arnheim, Holland, 69-69.
	Arnhem, and she says that...
	Oh, it's Arnhem, Arnhem.
	She says the Dutch stimulus check for entrepreneurs came in.
	Which means, let's celebrate.
	I'm on my way to become the first black, black dame, as in Afro-European.
	All right.
	Angela Mackey Rutledge, looking forward to that.
	Thank you.
	Sir, what is it?
	Sri?
	Shrin?
	Shron?
	It's Sir SN, Sir Tin.
	Yeah, Tin, SN. I forgot what it meant.
	It's the symbol of SN. It's a chemical symbol, but it stands for some word.
	6008 in Arnold, Maryland, a birthday boy.
	Robert Stotts in San Diego, California, 5555.
	Robert Vandenberg, another birthday in...
	Not bad.
	Heeryonsdom.
	Heeryonsdom.
	Good.
	Heeryonsdom.
	Anthony Rodriguez in Tucson, Arizona, 5510.
	John Gaynor in Eldia, Virginia, 5280.
	Sir Don, the Baron of New Hampshire, 5111 in Wyndham, New Hampshire.
	Thanks for the sanity.
	Sheila Ryan in Paris, France.
	Woo!
	All right.
	50-50.
	Bonjour, Adam and John.
	Woo!
	We haven't had one of those.
	This is our one French woman.
	Woo!
	What I love the most about your podcast are your melodious voices.
	Thank you.
	I love this show and appreciate all the hard work you guys do.
	You've got Ant's Jingle.
	It'd be nice if it gets played.
	Take care of yourselves and merci beaucoup for hours of pleasure and laughs.
	Merci beaucoup to you, mademoiselle.
	Les Altman, Parts Unknown.
	He's another birthday shout-out, $50.33.
	The following people are $50 donors, name and location, as appropriate.
	Sir Scott of Diablo in Clayton, California.
	Julian Robbins in Aptos.
	Teresa Bolzewicz, Bolzewicz, something like that.
	I don't know.
	In Warren, Michigan.
	Tristan Martens in Milwaukee.
	Ryan Wright.
	Shirley O'Brien.
	Louis Coulomb.
	And he got a baby karma for him at the end.
	He got a baby karma.
	Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon.
	Will West in Peoria, Arizona.
	John Lucas in Colorado Springs.
	Lori Knight, another birthday for her hot husband, Scott, of the Knight family.
	A family of Knights.
	You know, you could get Knight and be Knight Knight.
	Knight Knight.
	Jesus Allen, one of your friends in Austin, Texas.
	Steve Simonowski in Loveland, Colorado.
	Baroness Susan Johnson, a regular from Hillsboro, Oregon.
	And always sends in a card.
	And Stephen Kirkpatrick in Langley, Washington.
	I want to thank all these folks for supporting our show, 1237, making it happen.
	And we really appreciate the good support we got for today's show.
	Special edition.
	Yeah, goodness.
	I'm often just humbled.
	Thank you so much for keeping the show going.
	Especially if you see all the alternatives.
	For me personally, but for us individually as well.
	I'm so happy to be working with everybody.
	And we, of course, want to thank not just these producers, but also those who came in under $50 to keep themselves anonymous.
	Or they're on one of our subscriptions.
	Go to dvorak.org slash n-a I implore you to do one of those, even if you donate as an exec or just a producer.
	It really helps to have those longer term.
	And we will be here for you with more Deconstruction affiliates.
	We're going long again today.
	We will be here for you on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A. My request.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	You stop.
	Karma.
	We're getting towards the end of April, and we have a couple of birthdays for you on this 26th of April.
	Lawrence Childs' happy birthday to her favorite sister, Lindsay Carson, celebrated on the 11th.
	Taylor, Char, Noah, Connor, Nicole say happy birthday to Darren Olsen from Kamloops, British Columbia.
	Sir SN, or Sir Tin, Anonymous, in Baltimore will be celebrating.
	Julia Nas celebrated her Sweet 16 last Sunday.
	We say happy birthday to her.
	Lori Knight...
	I congratulate her super hot husband, Sir Scott Edward.
	He'll be celebrating.
	He celebrated on the 25th, so just yesterday.
	Warren Sunquist, 75 today.
	Still reads the newspaper without his glasses.
	Victor Vandenberg, 43 tomorrow.
	Jeffrey Kelly says happy birthday to Anonymous in Baltimore.
	Celebrating tomorrow, Kimberly Homony, or Ho Money.
	Happy birthday for smoking hot husband David Ho Money, 42 tomorrow.
	Les Albin turns 33 on April 29th.
	And a big belated birthday to Void Zero, who turned 36 two years ago.
	Happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	It's your first day, yeah.
	T-T-T-T-T-Title Changes.
	Turn and face the slay.
	Tice changes.
	Don't want to be a loser.
	Two quick title changes, Sir Economic Hitman.
	Came in with an addition and a full $1,000 for his upman.
	Upping to Baron of the No Agenda Peerage.
	And Sir Chris Cowan becomes Baron of North Austin and the Hamlet of Pflugerville.
	And we thank both of these gentlemen for supporting the No Agenda show, the best podcast in the universe, as everybody does who produces the show.
	That's all of you.
	Uh, two, one, two, one, two.
	We have...
	Hey, give me a sword, Dvorak!
	I got the big one.
	Look at it!
	All right!
	Andrew Bloomer, John Waldorf, Warren Sundquist, Serena Catania, and Julia Nas, all of you up here on stage, you are about to become Knights and Dames of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I am very proud to pronounce KB, Sir Andrew Knight of the Unapologetic Pale Males, Sir Seavey Knight of the Black Thumbnails, Sir Worn Out of San Felipe, Baja California, Mexico, Dame Ladybug, and Dame Julia Weaver of Words First...
	Of words.
	First of the Nas.
	Oh my goodness.
	For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay.
	We've got chai tea with apple and peanut butter, curry and creo and...
	Mutton and Mead.
	Crazy, crazy nighting today.
	Knights and dames.
	It's good to have five people joining us here at the No Agenda Roundtable.
	All of you can now go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Give Eric the Shill your info.
	I think the Nas family is well known.
	Not to have to worry about that.
	And Eric will get that out to you as soon as possible.
	And thank you for supporting your podcast.
	It's the best in the universe.
	According to the Mueller Report, it's the No Agenda Show.
	Yes.
	So I got a kick out.
	We talked about the media and their scare tactics to get everyone all worked up.
	And so I recorded a couple of just, not even the news itself, but just the teasers.
	Okay.
	The teasers are about a minute and a half, these teasers.
	So I got two of them, both from NBC. I could do the other ones.
	I might turn this to a 4x4 or something where I just, just the teasers.
	We don't need to listen to the news reports.
	We just need to hear the fright, hear the scare.
	This is NBC nightly newspaper.
	Penning T's.
	Wait, wait.
	It's the one that does not say F-R-I. That's the Friday one.
	I'm looking for what you are talking about, and I... Oh, here it is.
	I got it.
	...concerned some states are reopening...
	Wait, is the one that says FRI or not FRI? Not FRI....concerned some states are reopening too soon.
	Georgia, just hours away now, despite bipartisan backlash.
	President Trump reversing course, now saying he strongly disagrees with the governor.
	In Las Vegas, controversy over the mayor's calls to reopen casinos.
	Are exclusive access inside Caesars Palace eerily empty?
	And another meat plant shutting down.
	Are we headed for a shortage?
	Also the staggering new unemployment numbers.
	26 million Americans out of work in just five weeks.
	Desperation mounting.
	Billions more in relief money for small businesses on the way as Ruth's Chris announces it's giving the money it got back.
	Stunning results from the first widespread antibody testing when it reveals a hidden outbreak infecting millions.
	How long was it here before anyone knew?
	The fears tonight of a second wave.
	My fear is that people get out there too quickly, too many people can say.
	What Americans are saying about when they'll feel safe going back to public places like gyms, restaurants, and hair salons.
	And the top player in tonight's NFL draft is moving message about a struggle impacting his hometown and millions of other American families in this pandemic.
	This is NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt.
	That's not a tease.
	That's half the damn show.
	I know.
	It goes on forever.
	Crikey.
	Yeah.
	They're all doing this.
	You know, these news shows, they all...
	Copy each other so they have the same breakdown.
	The A block's really long, and then the B block is like two stories or one story, and then a lot of commercials at the end, and then a feel-good story at the end.
	The formula's pretty similar from place to place.
	But these openings are...
	All the networks have about a two-minute...
	Well, a minute and a half opening up all this.
	Harem, scarem, boo, boo, boo.
	I would play the...
	The second one here, which is the Friday one.
	But I don't know.
	I don't need to because it's like the first one.
	It's not that different.
	But I want to play the ding...
	I have to say this.
	She's a dingbat.
	This Las Vegas mayor.
	They got her on.
	Anderson Cooper got her on.
	She wants to put people back to work.
	And he wants to say...
	You want to reopen the whole town.
	And she says...
	Hold on a second.
	Let's just put some context here.
	She is Carolyn Goodman.
	Yeah.
	And somehow I think related the other Goodman.
	He used to be the mayor.
	Well, yeah.
	He died and then she took over.
	Yeah.
	So he's saying you want to reopen the town.
	She says, no, I don't want to reopen the town.
	I want to put people back to work.
	By reopening the town.
	And he says, well, it sounds like you want to reopen the town.
	And she says, no, I want to put people back to work.
	And this is the stupidest interview I've ever seen in my life.
	And she's just saying one thing he's saying the other.
	It's out of control.
	Thanks so much for being with us, Mayor.
	You say that you assume everyone has the virus and is just asymptomatic.
	You want casinos open, Vegas back in business.
	Is that a responsible call to make?
	That wasn't the call that I was really making.
	It was to get people back to work.
	We have so many in our hospitality crew.
	Probably, we're two and a half million people down here in Southern Nevada.
	And we have so many out of work because of the casino shutdowns.
	Well, that's a piece of it.
	I want the hotel rooms open.
	We have 155,000 hotel rooms, and most of our people who live here and are part of the population are hooked to those hotel rooms in some way or ancillary way.
	So you want hotel rooms, casinos, the theaters open?
	I mean, you want Vegas back in business, no?
	I want our restaurants open.
	I want our small businesses open.
	I want our people back in employment.
	We have so many families that can't even afford to get the groceries for their family because they've been out of work for six weeks.
	But casinos, you want them open because obviously the visitor is not going to come without casinos and shows and things.
	Well, no, they'll come because they love, we've got major league sports here.
	So you want stadiums open?
	I'd love everything open because I think we've had viruses for years that have been here.
	That is the call you said you weren't making.
	That is the call.
	You want casinos open, you want stadiums open, you want restaurants open, you want Vegas back in business.
	And Anderson, you're being very specific, and I appreciate it because that's where you're seeing it.
	No, the reality is I want us open in the city of Las Vegas so our people can go back to work.
	Did you play this just to hurt me?
	Just to make me cringe?
	It's like, why is this even on the air?
	It's like, Anderson can't deal with it.
	He's an idiot.
	I don't even watch CNN anymore.
	All right, I'm going to wrap this up.
	Good.
	Something that during the Obama administration the right was yelling about, although never as sincere as the left, and in America we have conservative Republicans on the right, liberal but also progressives on the left.
	And I remember, we talked about it, we laughed about it, I have a follow clip about it from back in the day.
	Ladies and gentlemen, once again, when it comes to printing money, the dumbos come up with the ABC Act.
	It's never been asked before, but here we go again.
	Have you heard of the ABC Act?
	No.
	This is a proposal.
	ABC stands for Automatic Boost to Communities.
	It would provide a boost debit card.
	We would all get this.
	By the way, all of us.
	Taxpayers, dependents, non-citizens.
	Even if you don't have a bank account or a social security number.
	Even if you don't have an address.
	Everybody gets it.
	$2,000.
	And then...
	Your card would be reloaded with $1,000 every month until one year after the end of the virus crisis.
	Apparently it stands for Automatic Boost to Communities, ABC. Automatic Boost to Communities.
	So, now, this would be a huge amount of money.
	I was going to say, who's paying for that?
	Okay.
	The ABC Act...
	Would be paid with two $1 trillion coins.
	The ABC Act would be funded directly from the Treasury with no additional debt.
	How could you do that?
	Do you remember this?
	I do remember this.
	The $1 trillion coin idea.
	And where does it come from?
	I don't remember any of the details.
	In 1945, the people of Europe struggled to rebuild following the war.
	Shut up, Simpson.
	To ease this crisis, President Truman promised relief.
	American tax dollars will help our allies who fought so poorly and surrendered so readily.
	To make good on this drunken post, Truman authorized the one-time printing of the largest denomination currency ever, a trillion-dollar bill.
	Ooh, a trillion dollar bill.
	That's a spicy meatball.
	The Simpsons.
	The Simpsons from, I think it was 2013 maybe?
	No, it has to be earlier than that, maybe 2010.
	Maybe a little older than that.
	But we had all kinds of trillion dollar coin stories.
	So while they debate over a debate and race headlong into the debt ceiling, is there a magic bullet to solve the crisis?
	Try a magic coin.
	Some economists, legal scholars, and now even a congressman are suggesting a $1 trillion platinum coin could be minted and the government could use that to pay the debt, avoid default, and preempt the debt ceiling crisis.
	That's 2013.
	We've been through this, people.
	We've been through this dumb trillion dollar coin idea, and it's now AOC and the people who are suggesting this.
	It used to be nutjob Republicans.
	They're all on the same team, man.
	They're just coming up with more dumb shit.
	It's unbelievable.
	And it never ends, which is great for the No Agenda show.
	Exactly.
	And with that, ladies and gentlemen...
	Boys and girls of all ages, we conclude our broadcast day.
	We've got Grumpy Old Ben's, some kind of big one for them, the 60th episode today.
	And winding up the show, we'll have some Matthew Hertert.
	We've got a new submission from Mac T. And we've got a fantastic Fletcher.
	I'm sure Blaney has evolved in that as well.
	For our end of show mixes.
	And thank you to Spike Jones and the Beastie Boys for putting me in their documentary.
	Which is now on Apple Plus.
	Pretty cool.
	Thank you, Eddie Q, for putting me in the documentary.
	Whoever's responsible, I feel powerful.
	Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state, it is FEMA region number six on the governmental maps in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley.
	Where the traffic is great.
	It's like living in a small town.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	Until then, adios mofos, China's asshole, and such.
	Since 2007, the No Agenda Show has been with you.
	We're a part of your life, your family, and our tribe.
	We've deconstructed the media with your amygdala's health in mind.
	Now, in this time of crisis, we need each other more than ever.
	Your friends and neighbors who still live in Dimension B need to be hit in the mouth.
	Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak are a shining light in this time of darkness.
	We're here for you.
	Don't be a douchebag.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA and make a donation.
	Today, do it for your pop pop.
	Now let's all have some fortuitous applause for the frontline healthcare workers who are entertaining us so much on TikTok.
	These tests are not 100%.
	So if you have 1% of your population, 50% of the time will be a real positive.
	And you have a test that's only 99%.
	And we don't know by looking at someone.
	That means that when you find a positive 50% of the time, it won't fail.
	Health officials in the U.S. have finally confirmed two pet cats in New York State that have tested positive for coronavirus.
	Two pet cats.
	Two pet cats.
	These tests are not 100%.
	So if you have 1% of your population, 50% of the time will be a real positive.
	And you have a test that's only 99%.
	And we don't know by looking at someone.
	That means that when you find a positive 50% of the time, it won't be.
	No, we're not going back to working just so that we could put food on the table.
	Trump rewrites the book on emergencies.
	These tests are not 100%.
	So if you have 1% of your population, 50% of the time will be a real positive.
	And you have a test that's only 99%.
	And we don't know by looking at someone.
	That means that when you find a positive 50% of the time, it won't be.
	They could have been looking into China.
	It was hard to get it aroused, and it is hard to get it aroused, but you get it aroused.
	I am waiting for the day I am waiting for the day That I may come out of my house
	Crazy, I'm crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy You know I got you up I'm in quarantine.
	I love the sound of my washing machine I love the way you turn right around I love the way you turn, it's really profound Whoa, whoa, whoa, I see it go, it's going, it's going It's turning, turning, turning around It's so profound I am waiting for the day that I may come out of my house
	Lately, lately I go crazy.
	Lately, lately I go crazy.
	Once it was reluctantly aroused.
	It was hard to get it aroused.
	And it is hard to get it aroused.
	But we got it aroused.
	We got it aroused.
	And I and I and everywhere else around the country is doing this.
	It was hard to get it aroused.
	Just keep it up.
	And it is hard to get it aroused.
	You know, I mean, come on.
	We got it aroused.
	Ooh.
	You know, it's going to be even bigger now.
	Ooh.
	Look how long it is.
	It was hard to get it aroused.
	Ooh.
	I'll give you the gist of it.
	Quick, get some white stuff, somebody.
	Help me out here.
	Ooh.
	All cash, baby.
	Uh, I'm getting too excited about this.
	Sit, stay, and come.
	We got it aroused.
	Ooh.
	The guy is jizzing all over himself.
	They're not going to come because they wouldn't even think who would even think this.
	And everyone's like, oh, right, cool, kinky, yeah, right.
	We got it aroused.
	It was hard to get it aroused.
	And it is hard to get it aroused.
	Totally misquoted in the media.
	Totally misplode.
	They were asked to change it and they wouldn't do that.
	Hold on, stop a second.
	This is a crisis.
	This is all amateur hour.
	This is all stuff done in the control room or done by somebody who's not a good guy and done on purpose.
	How stupid have we been?
	And of course people got all kinds of fun clips.
	How stupid have we been?
	People making songs from that.
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