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	Oh my, what if China finds out?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, April 16, 2020.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 1, 2, 3, 4.
	This is No Agenda.
	Counting past two and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here at the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Devorak.
	This is Cracklot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	All right, worst opening ever.
	Worst?
	No, it was worse.
	It was worse.
	No, no, no, I think this is one of the worst ones.
	Okay.
	No do-overs, huh?
	No.
	No.
	Alright.
	You don't like your Bachman Turner overdrive opening?
	Bachman Turner overdrive opening?
	Yeah, with the false stuttering.
	Oh.
	You ain't seen nothing yet?
	Or the who?
	Well, it was that too.
	It was an L-shaped recovery on that opening.
	There you go.
	Hey, everybody.
	This is episode 1, 2, 3, 4!
	Hey, everybody.
	Hey, everybody.
	1,234 episodes.
	John, congratulations.
	You're welcome.
	I didn't thank you.
	I said congratulations.
	Well, you're welcome anyway.
	Good.
	How's everything in California with the Rona?
	Well, we got everyone's giving speeches.
	Oh!
	They had the Newsome come out and he gave a long speech with kind of this crackling voice I've got.
	I'm trying to work on it.
	And so he's got a long thing.
	talks with a gravelly voice and he sounds like this.
	And he goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
	It's unbelievable.
	It just goes on and on.
	And then the next thing you know, we have the Mayor London Breed who talks like She has a kind of a sneer.
	She looks like Elvis.
	She's the mayor of what?
	Mayor of San Francisco?
	Yeah, mayor of San Francisco.
	She's got her sneer and she talks.
	She went on for an hour.
	Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
	And then they brought on the other guy, some guy, the doctor, the local doctor who's the head of it, the COVID response or something.
	And they go on and they go on and on and on about how terrible it is in San Francisco.
	We have 17 whole deaths.
	Over the last month.
	Wow.
	What's the total for California?
	They shut down the economy in San Francisco, just killed everything for the, I don't know, maybe I think they're exaggerating the problem.
	Oh, I'm pretty sure they are, and we have some data to back that up.
	But it was an interesting week, and as you know, I've been sitting at home with everybody else.
	And I think, like everybody else, we're almost ready.
	In just a week or two, I'll be begging for a vaccine!
	Just let me out!
	Please!
	I'll take it!
	Shoot me up!
	I'm ready, Bill Gates!
	It feels like that.
	We got Michiganders getting all feisty.
	I had a bunch of Gates clips.
	Following him around.
	He's promoting his vaccine.
	He swallows a lot when he talks.
	It's kind of annoying to listen to him.
	He's promoting his vaccines.
	He's promoting...
	Globalism, global governance.
	Yes, yes, I have.
	He's also considering, since he's a college dropout and really he's only been a technologist and a guy giving away money, he's now considering himself a, well, he's got a new status for himself, it seems.
	Oh.
	You can see if you can find it in here.
	Let me find this clip.
	This is Gates' globalist talk on the BBC is the name of the clip.
	Bill Gates, thank you very much for joining us on BBC Breakfast.
	I just wonder if I could first ask you, how important is it now to have a global response?
	Well, I'd say it's critical because the tools that are going to reduce deaths, the drugs, you know, that's a global thing to get those out.
	And the thing that'll get us back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine.
	27 seconds.
	Only 27 seconds to say vaccine.
	Not bad, Bill.
	You're getting better.
	Back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine and getting that out to all 7 billion people.
	And so the efforts to test those, to build the factories, to understand, you know, is it safe and ready to go?
	That's a global problem.
	And, you know, so I'm glad, you know, that people are coming together.
	I just got to interrupt this clip for a second.
	What he just said there has seeped in deep into the consciousness.
	I was listening to DH Unplugged and Horowitz has this same feeling.
	I heard him say, well, we can't really go back to normal until we have a vaccine and everybody can be tested.
	And you waffled because I heard you going...
	I didn't waffle.
	You didn't say anything.
	I did roll my eyes.
	No, because it's not a point of discussion we're supposed to be having on that show.
	I understand.
	I don't want to just sidetrack and get into a debate about this.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on.
	It's not about you.
	It's about seeing that people have been taught this message.
	Oh, not everybody.
	Well, I would hope some of the smaller amygdala amongst us are not thinking that way.
	Oh, the people that listen to our show have got a clue.
	But not all of them.
	I do get a lot of notes.
	You've mentioned about it before, but I've got a couple of doozies recently.
	Let me finish up this Gates clip.
	To find where is the best work and combine that.
	You know, the factory will be in a different country than the science is in.
	This is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool that's ever been needed.
	Ever!
	Can I ask you to just reflect a little more on the way that world leaders thus far have responded to the crisis?
	Well, there's the period when I and other health experts were saying that this is the greatest...
	I want everybody to understand the significance of what John C. Dvorak is communicating to you with these sound effects.
	Bill Gates is not a health expert.
	When I and other health experts...
	We're saying that this is the greatest potential downfall the world faced, you know, going back quite a ways with a speech in 2015 and a New England Journal of Medicine article about the specific things.
	So, you know, we definitely will look back and wish we had invested more.
	So that we could quickly have all the diagnostics, drugs, and vaccines.
	I'm glad you pulled this clip.
	I want to tie into it, but go ahead.
	There's a number of problems with this clip.
	Can I just tie into the end of what he said about the investment part?
	Yeah, I don't want to lose my point.
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	He's asserting that if we had thought about this more seriously as a problem that he and others have been predicting, science fiction writers have been writing about this for 100 years, and they don't get any credit, but Gates with his 2015 TED Talk made some mention of it.
	These things come along.
	They're not predictive.
	You can't have vaccines ready to go.
	Like he implies, if we had global governance and everything was in control, we'd have all this ready.
	We'd be ready to go at the drop of a hat once this thing showed up.
	But that's not the way it works.
	That's not the way these bugs evolve.
	They don't evolve with a pre-done vaccine thing.
	I mean, he has this crazy RNA vaccine, which doesn't work, but that might work on one of these things eventually.
	So this is nonsense.
	The other thing, as he says, the global problem, you can't do these things locally.
	He is saying that the United States cannot by itself develop and...
	And produce a vaccine or anything, for that matter, without the help of the globe.
	Because everybody in the globe, there's not that many countries that can do any of this work.
	And we're the preeminent one.
	Except, clearly, we are beholden to manufacturing in another country, as he alluded to.
	And the two countries we're beholden to are China, mainly, and India.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, that's why he's all in on this model.
	He doesn't want to change it.
	He doesn't want capability anywhere else.
	He should be saying what we're saying, which is let's pull the plug on that relationship.
	Yeah, right.
	And do it all here.
	Why are we putting up with this kind of dependency to send a submission to these other countries?
	It's bullcrap.
	Well, I have some thoughts on that.
	Clearly, he wants things to be done in China for a very specific reason.
	Or India would be okay as long as it's not in the United States.
	Clearly he wished there was a lot more investment.
	A lot more investment because, as he mentioned in Davos on CNBC, where you talk about investment, contrary to what people say about vaccines and the vaccine business, Bill kind of likes it.
	You've invested $10 billion in vaccinations over the last two decades, and you figured out the return on investment for that, and it kind of stunned me.
	Can you walk us through the math?
	Well, it's pretty impressive that When you take these vaccines, get them to be very inexpensive by making big volume commitments, have that right relationship with the private sector, get the delivery system so they're really getting the coverage out there, you literally save millions of lives.
	We see a phenomenal track record.
	It's been $100 billion overall that the world's put in.
	Our foundation is a bit more than $10 billion.
	But we feel there's been over a 20 to 1 return.
	So if you just look at the economic benefits, that's a pretty strong number compared to anything else.
	The human benefit in millions of lives saved.
	So, you know, we're here with a pretty strong message that although all these other issues are very important, let's not forget about the great success in global health and maintaining that commitment.
	I think the numbers that you ran through were if you had put that money into an S&P 500 and reinvested the dividends, you'd come up with something like $17 billion, but you think it's $200 billion here.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	20-time return on the unprofitable vaccine business.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, that's pretty telling.
	And the other thing is, what kind of philanthropist?
	He's a health professional.
	He's a health professional.
	He's a philanthropist.
	Dr.
	Bill, yes he is.
	He's looking for return on investment.
	You're supposed to be giving your money away.
	This is return on investment.
	Well, you heard him say it.
	And that's what he cares about.
	So he's, you know, the same old Bill, although now he's a medical professional.
	Yes.
	No degree.
	Never took a class in health.
	But because he's giving his money away in some field, he's now a medical expert.
	Yes, yes.
	He's very smart, you know.
	One of the smartest guys in the room.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's very, very smart.
	You know who's also really smart?
	Dr.
	Fauci is a colleague of Dr.
	Bill.
	Yeah, Dr.
	Bill and Dr.
	Fauci are both...
	We're going to be calling him Dr.
	Bill for a while.
	I think that's the way to go, Dr.
	Bill.
	Dr.
	Bill.
	From the country of Gatesland.
	I have other Gates clips, by the way.
	Well, I'd like to move into Fauci.
	Gates, we can't do too much Gates in a row.
	He's quite boring.
	Uh...
	He talks to the Financial Times.
	Let's get this one out of the way.
	Oh, let's listen to that then.
	Okay.
	There's Gates with the Financial Times.
	There's a very pretty girl that's interviewing him, but she's like deadpan.
	And Gates is kind of...
	I think he sees her on the monitor.
	I don't know if he's blindly...
	On the interview where he sees her, I can't tell.
	Well, I'm sure he's doing it on Skype or Microsoft Teams, so yeah, you'd expect it to be too late.
	Well, if it was on Teams, we wouldn't be able to see it.
	Oh, really?
	Then we can't even get it to work.
	Maybe it was the Zoom.
	Who knows?
	But they had...
	I know a guy who works at Microsoft and they tried to do a family meeting over teams and it failed.
	Anyway, let's play this and see what he says.
	The global catastrophe wasn't a highly infectious virus.
	Why didn't anybody...
	This is good, John.
	Did you edit it or...
	Hey, I think you...
	Hello?
	What?
	Your clip is no good.
	It's playing this.
	So I want to start by going back in time to five years ago.
	As many people know, you warned that the greatest risk of global catastrophe wasn't a war, but a highly infectious virus.
	Why didn't anybody listen?
	And if some people did, what was done to prepare for the pandemic that exists now?
	Well, not enough was done.
	The system wasn't built.
	We didn't really do the number of simulations to try and figure out, okay, how are we going to connect up the diagnostics?
	How are we going to get the vaccine going?
	There were some investments, for example, our foundation, Wellcome Trust, and a number of governments created CEPI, which is about making vaccine platforms that are ready when we get surprised to manufacture a new vaccine faster than which is about making vaccine platforms that are ready when we get surprised to manufacture a
	So some work was done, but in retrospect, the saddest thing is to be able to say, yes, that was right, but the whole point of the speech was to drive the research and the planning and the simulation, which would have allowed us to stop this at which would have allowed us to stop this at a very early stage.
	Oh, please.
	I do not like that Dr.
	Bill is taking this route.
	He's trying to build up more superhero status by saying, I told you so.
	Ugh.
	Very annoying.
	Yeah.
	Thanks.
	Let's listen to clip two.
	And in terms of the global response now, many countries, including the UK and the US, have been criticized for not doing enough testing and not doing it fast enough.
	What is your assessment of the global response so far and specifically of President Trump's response to this crisis in the US? Well, I'm sure there'll be plenty of time once we're on top of this to look at before the epidemic hit, what more could have been done, when the epidemic hit.
	I don't think any country has a perfect record.
	Taiwan comes close.
	They really were talking about it, and it's unfortunate they weren't part of WHO to really get those warnings paid attention to.
	You know, most countries didn't see it as as big a problem as it's ended up being.
	And, of course, when you have exponential growth, that means if you miss, you know, three doubling times, you know, it's eight times as big and much, much harder to get under control.
	So a few countries, particularly those that have the experience of dealing with MERS or SARS, they were the fastest to respond.
	South Korea is an example of that.
	China, which had a lot of cases, now is in a very different state where they are able to get most people going back to school and back to work.
	Yeah, I'm glad we did that.
	Thank you.
	I'm falling asleep.
	He did make a comment there.
	I want you to save it in your brain for later, which is most countries didn't see this becoming the big problem that it became.
	So he said that, and that's good.
	This is the last one.
	This is his wife decides to get in on the act, and she shows up at CNN, and the clip is called Mel Gasters.
	This clip is interesting for two reasons.
	One, listening to her spew the same, she's a worse globalist than he is, you know, let's just turn our country over to some globalist.
	Some one-world government.
	But the interesting thing about this, this is a CNN report where the guest on the show is mic'd better to an extreme.
	Than the host.
	Than the host who's on some connection.
	I don't know what's going on, but it's so unprofessional, it's embarrassing.
	Why do you think we were so ill-prepared for coronavirus?
	We have it recognized as a global community that we are a global community.
	And if we had recognized that and stepped up to it...
	Oh, she's got that little laugh in her voice, too.
	Yeah, you know, there's another thing.
	The minute I heard this, we'll play it from the beginning.
	I'm not going to obsess over the shit sound of the host.
	Um...
	This is how this went.
	Hey, would you like to speak to Melinda Gates?
	Yeah, I'd love to.
	Okay.
	As long as you ask about the global response and could we have acted sooner?
	Because that's everyone's first question.
	The BBC's question.
	It's CNN's question.
	It's FT's question.
	That's the anti-Trump question.
	That's the Trump gotcha question.
	Oh, Trump didn't act soon enough.
	He didn't act soon enough.
	They didn't act soon enough.
	But acting soon enough, that's the part that will play a role in the impeachment.
	We haven't recognized as a global community that we are a global community.
	And if we had recognized that and stepped up to it, we would have prepared for this.
	We would have systems in place, both monitoring, alerting very quickly.
	We would have had test kits available.
	We would have just, you know, we plan for things as nations.
	We plan for earthquakes.
	We plan for tsunamis.
	We plan for tornadoes.
	We didn't plan for disease.
	And I don't think that will ever happen now, thank God.
	Go back to your alpaca wool knitting woman.
	She is more annoying than he is now.
	If only we had been.
	I'm also a health professional.
	Well, let's talk about this for a second.
	Now I need to go to Fauci because we're there this weekend, the past weekend, certainly in the United States.
	And as I will show later, these political fights are taking place in many different countries.
	And it is often about response, response time, choices made.
	It's happening in the UK. It's happening in Germany.
	It's happening in parts of Africa.
	It's everywhere.
	Everywhere.
	And France as well.
	Everyone's getting questioned now.
	But over the weekend, Dr.
	Fauci, America's doctor, who got us into this mitigation, as he will testify, Did an interview with Jake Tapper on CNN, and it was interpreted in a way that Fauci was saying, we could have saved lives if there wasn't so much pushback internally from the administration, and we could have reacted earlier.
	That's how it was spun.
	That was the headline.
	It was going nuts.
	Here is a piece of that interview, the pertinent piece.
	Do you think lives could have been saved if social distancing, physical distancing, stay-at-home measures had started the third week of February instead of mid-March?
	You know, Jake, again, it's the what would have, what could have.
	It's very difficult to go back and say that.
	I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives.
	Obviously, no one is going to deny that.
	But what goes into those kinds of decisions is conspiracy.
	But you're right.
	I mean, obviously, if we had, right from the very beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different.
	But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.
	I think it sounds like exactly the way it was interpreted.
	Well, there's a lot of pushback about shutting things down, you know, but hypothetically, you know, if we had done it earlier, it would have saved lives.
	There was a lot of pushback.
	So I found that the Corona briefing team, the task force, spent a lot of time this week working on the timeline, explaining why they'd made choices at certain moments, why they had or they hadn't.
	And within two minutes of Monday's briefing, the president rolled out Fauci.
	Hey, Fauci, don't you have something to say?
	Interestingly, he didn't really address what the whole issue was about.
	I think it was the pushback term.
	And here's how he addressed the misinformation that cobbled throughout the weekend.
	The other point I wanted to make is that I had an interview yesterday that I was asked a hypothetical question.
	And hypothetical questions sometimes can get you into some difficulty because it's what would have or could have.
	The nature of the hypothetical question was if in fact we had mitigated earlier, could lives have been saved?
	And the answer to my question was, as I always do, and I'm doing right now, perfectly honestly say, yes.
	I mean, obviously, if mitigation helps, I've been up here many times telling you that mitigation works.
	So if mitigation works and you initiate it earlier, you will probably have saved more lives.
	If you initiated it later, you probably would have lost more lives.
	You initiated it at a certain time.
	That was taken as a way that maybe somehow something was at fault here.
	So let me tell you from my experience, and I can only speak from my own experience, is that we had been talking before any meetings that we had about the pros and the cons, the effectiveness or not, of strong mitigations.
	So discussions were going on mostly among the medical people about what that would mean.
	The first and only time that Dr.
	Birx and I went in and formally made a recommendation to the president to actually have a, quote, shutdown in the sense of not really shutdown, but to really have strong mitigation, we discussed it.
	Obviously, there would be concern by some that, in fact, that might have some negative consequences.
	Nonetheless, the president listened to the recommendation, And went to the mitigation.
	And that was his statement.
	So, hey, man, you know, that was just a hypothetical.
	I mean, I'm an honest guy.
	But he didn't really address what happened.
	And while everyone's jumping up and down over Paula Reid from CBS, I think she asked two very good questions.
	She asked specifically about the pushback, which Fauci did not address in his weasel apologies.
	Well, he kind of did, if you read between the lines, but you have to really dig in there.
	He implied...
	And you can challenge me if you think I'm interpreting this wrong, but he says the conversations were between doctors.
	The pushback was within the community.
	Yes.
	And then when he went to take it to Trump, Trump went along with whatever he told him to do.
	Right.
	But CNN wants to make you think, oh, pushback.
	Trump is meddling in everything and pushing, ah, you can't do that, you can't do this.
	I think it's just, you know, this is the...
	They're interpreting the word pushback because Trump has been perceived as a big bully.
	I mean, all our preconceived notions about Trump are built into the word pushback.
	We think it was Trump.
	It wasn't Trump.
	What was interesting is that he did not say anything about the pushback or any, really, he did not use the word pushback, which to me was what set the whole thing off.
	That's where Paula Reid from CBS asked it.
	There were interpretations of that response to a hypothetical question that I just thought it would be very nice for me to clarify because I didn't have the chance to clarify.
	Thank you. - Hold on. - Okay, okay.
	You know, to be honest with you, I don't even remember what the date was.
	I can just tell you the first and only time that I went in and said we should do mitigation strongly, the response was yes, we'll do it.
	And what did you do?
	Is that the travel restrictions?
	No.
	The travel restriction is separate.
	That was whether or not we wanted to go into a mitigation stage of 15 days of mitigation.
	The travel was another recommendation.
	When we went in and said, we probably should be doing that, and the answer was yes.
	And then another time was, we should do it with Europe, and the answer was yes.
	And the next time, we should do it with the UK, and the answer was yes.
	Where did that pushback come from?
	That was the wrong choice of words.
	When people discuss, not necessarily in front of the president, when people discuss, they say, well, you know, this is going to have maybe a harmful effect on this or on that.
	So it was a poor choice of words.
	There wasn't anybody saying, no, you shouldn't do that.
	Are you doing this voluntarily?
	No, I'm doing it.
	Everything I do is voluntarily, please.
	Don't even imply that.
	I like that question.
	I mean, it's horrible just in a normal life to say, are you being held?
	Blink twice if you're doing this voluntarily.
	But I like those.
	I thought that was a good question.
	They were all gotcha questions.
	Yeah, and he gave her daggers.
	But what I'd like to do is just play four short clips to show you how full of crap Fauci is.
	He's lying.
	He makes it up as he goes along.
	And maybe we should just bear in mind he is actually a year older than Joe Biden.
	So...
	In a general sense of the word, the guy's doing pretty good.
	He's kicking ass.
	He's out there everywhere doing his interviews.
	I don't think Joe Biden could come close to doing that.
	Fauci is 79 years old, man.
	He's up there.
	So January 21st.
	Now, this is just Fauci.
	This is the guy who was advising the president.
	The president took his advice.
	Did the mitigation.
	He also advised to shut down Europe, shut down the UK. Everything was done.
	But here's how this guy talks around town when it comes to the media.
	This is from January 21st.
	And bear in mind, we knew a lot.
	We were talking about this in the third week of January.
	But here's what Fauci said.
	Bottom line, we don't have to worry about this one, right?
	Well, you know, obviously you need to take it seriously.
	And do the kinds of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security are doing.
	But this is not a major threat for the people in the United States.
	And this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.
	Nothing to worry about.
	We were only about a week away from closing off flights to China.
	Let's go forward a few days, the 26th of January.
	Should they be scared?
	I don't think so.
	The American people should not be worried or frightened by this.
	It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously.
	Okay, so we're taking it seriously as public health officials, very seriously, but you don't have to worry.
	Let's jump ahead a whole month.
	February 29, Saturday, February 29.
	See, it's Saturday morning in America.
	People are waking up right now with real concerns about this.
	They want to go to malls and movies, maybe the gym as well.
	Should we be changing our habits, and if so, how?
	No, right now, at this moment, there is no need to change anything that you're doing on a day-by-day basis.
	Right now, the risk is still low, but this could change.
	I've said that many times.
	Yes, we heard it many times.
	That's February 29th.
	Now, this past Sunday, Fauci was on with Sharpton.
	And it's a dangerous place to do an interview because Sharpton confuses you because you're trying to understand what he's saying.
	And he'll fumble around and before you know it, you're telling the truth or lies or I don't know.
	But here is Fauci's timeline now as of this past Sunday.
	By the time we got that information and we started getting cases here, it was, well, it's not efficiently spread from human to human.
	But as soon as it became clear that there was community spread, which means that it isn't just a travel-related case, that there are cases that are in the community under the radar screen, then it became clear that we were in real trouble.
	When was that?
	Around when was that?
	Well, that was probably towards the middle to end of January.
	So now you tell me.
	Good one.
	The middle to the end, so we have them on January 21st, January 26th.
	We have them on February 29th.
	And, you know, the president came out and did his, and I thought it was very entertaining.
	He did his super cuts, which was crap.
	It was a shitty, shitty supercut.
	He could have called us!
	The Curry Consulting Group, which has recommended this strategy.
	What about Dvorak?
	You fired Dvorak already?
	We recommended this strategy.
	Oh, this is the Ross Perot strategy, it's dynamite.
	But it was poorly executed, and immediately, and you can see these Jumokes sitting there with their phones on their laps.
	And they're literally waiting for their editor to say, oh, ask this question!
	So immediately after that it was, this is campaign style!
	This is a campaign style video!
	Campaign style!
	Let me see, I think I have a clip here about this.
	Where was the...
	Maybe I don't have it here.
	Should have had a whole NPR thing about this.
	Hold on a second, where is it?
	Well, I guess not.
	Let's see if we have anything else.
	We had a lot of different questions in the past couple of days.
	The one that came up yesterday, which also has been out and talked about for a while, we kind of started it from day one when this wet market story came up.
	And it was kind of interesting.
	We did a...
	A video chat, my sisters and I, on, I think, Monday.
	And Willow's in Italy, Tiffany's in Amsterdam, and I'm here in Austin.
	And we're talking, and Tiffany, she says, well, I don't understand why the Chinese are opening those wet markets.
	That makes no sense.
	And Willow and I go, because that's not where it started?
	And she's like, no, yes, it did.
	And so these are the stories that get stuck in people's heads that have been so reinforced by the media that that will, of course, probably be the story forever, depending on what happens.
	But there was a nice setup yesterday in the Rose Garden during the briefing.
	And I say setup because it was a clear one.
	Fox News.
	Hello!
	And this is the report about reports of this virus having escaped or been leaked from a nearby biolab.
	We've been saying this.
	There was a possibility for months.
	Mr. President, multiple sources are telling Fox News today that the United States government now has high confidence that while the coronavirus is a naturally occurring virus, it emanated from a virology lab in Wuhan that because of lack safety protocols, an intern was infected it emanated from a virology lab in Wuhan that because of lack safety protocols, an intern was infected who later infected her boyfriend and then went to the wet Does that correspond with what you have heard from officials?
	Well, I don't want to say that, John, but I will tell you more and more we're hearing the story, and we'll see.
	When you say multiple sources, now there's a case where you can use the word sources, but we are...
	Doing a very thorough examination of this horrible situation that happened.
	Go ahead, please.
	In your many conversations with President Xi, Mr.
	President, did you ever discuss with him State Department concerns about lax safety protocols that had been reported to the State Department from the embassy in Beijing about that laboratory?
	I don't want to discuss what I talked to him about the laboratory.
	I just don't want to discuss it.
	It's inappropriate right now.
	Please, go ahead.
	Yeah, okay.
	Set up question.
	He's clearly put his stake in the ground.
	And it's like, hey, someone needs to own up to this.
	And I started to figure out what he may be doing here or where he's coming from.
	The day before, he had a sit-down in the cabinet room with several survivors of coronavirus, including the Michigan State's representative, Campbell.
	And she spoke for a little bit, and as a former football player, NFL guy, and just an array of different people who, of course, all had taken hydroxychloroquine and lived to tell the tale, and so it was about a 45-minute meeting.
	But in that meeting, he did the 1917 thing again, but he went just that little bit further, and I think I kind of know what's happening and why he consistently calls the Spanish flu a flu that started in 1917 instead of 1918.
	I want to thank everybody.
	This has been incredible.
	I thought this would be a five-minute meeting, but I found each one of your stories so interesting.
	And hopefully the media can play some of these stories because they're just, you know, we're going through something, the likes of which I guess we've never seen.
	Maybe you go back to 1917, 1918.
	That was the big plague.
	That was the big one.
	And anywhere from, Mike, I guess, 75 to 100 million people died.
	It started here.
	It started in a certain location that I don't want to say because I love that location.
	So I'm not going to say it.
	But it started in this country and actually got brought to Europe.
	And Europe is where it did its, you know, thousands of people died here.
	Large numbers.
	But in Europe, tens of millions of people died.
	So we gave them no favor when whoever it is went over to Europe, right?
	No favor.
	So the 1917 only works if you believe this, if you believe that the Spanish flu started in 1917 and by 1918 was killing people in Europe and that we were responsible for it.
	And here's where it gets really weird.
	First, I think that the reason for Trump doing this, part one, is he's saying, hey, we're owning up to that.
	We killed 80 million people with something that we carried over from 1917 into 1918.
	By the way, catch up to that number, bitches.
	We killed 80 million.
	Where are you at, Wuhan?
	So I think he's using this to say, hey, it's okay, you can own up to a mistake or something that happened.
	That may be part of it, but when I started to research, you know, this was Kansas where that started.
	Oh, my God.
	Do you know that Kansas...
	Do you know Plum Island?
	No, I do not know Plum Island.
	Plum Island in New York is where they did all the biotesting.
	Very famous.
	You can't get on it.
	It's locked down.
	You can only kind of float around it with a boat.
	It's where all of the virology tests were done.
	When?
	Oh, up until 2019.
	Because in 2019, the U.S. Department of Agriculture took over the NBAF Animal Disease Lab, which is now a, wait for it, a level 4 bio lab, and this happened in 2019.
	And this is just right outside of New York City?
	No, it's in...
	Well, Plum Island had that...
	I don't know if it's right outside...
	Yeah, I guess so.
	I guess it is kind of in the water outside New York City.
	But they moved all of that to Kansas.
	When?
	In 2019.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, okay.
	I'm just trying to associate it back with the...
	Flu in 19.
	No, so it has nothing to do with the 1917 flu, other than, by coincidence, it came from Kansas.
	That may be a coincidence?
	I don't know.
	As I'm looking at Kansas, just searching around...
	Wait, wait, you're really confusing me.
	I don't want to stop you.
	I'll take you back.
	I'll take you back.
	Trump keeps saying 1917, and journalists tried to correct him, and he didn't.
	He kept saying it.
	Now he explains the whole thing.
	It came from us.
	Not some people said.
	He said it came from us in 1917, and in 1918, there was the huge Spanish flu.
	We're number one.
	We killed 80,000 people.
	80 million.
	Why won't you, China, own up to your mistake?
	I think that's part of what's going on.
	By coincidence.
	When I looked at Kansas, and I searched Kansas biovirus, 1917, I didn't come up with anything for 1917, but it turns out that we have this huge bio lab in Kansas, which took the Plum Island facilities last year.
	It was switched.
	It used to be the animal disease lab, and now it's a USDA bio lab, bio level four, the same as Wuhan.
	Okay.
	So there's no conclusion.
	I wish we didn't have to go through it twice.
	It's just interesting that that's there.
	And, if we take it to its natural conclusion, the CDC first developed and accidentally released COVID in 2004, before they went to train people in China how to do it.
	I have a long clip here.
	I don't know if it would be interesting to listen to.
	see running us tonight to take all of this and more up dr michael pillsbury director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute author of the hundred year marathon mike it is great to have you with us this early warning uh coming from the state department about wuhan the virology lab there uh it was
	Combine that with the warnings from the Taiwanese to the World Health Organization last fall.
	Why was there not a better understanding of what we were dealing with on the part of the World Health Organization and the Chinese government itself?
	Well, first of all, Lou, there's a lot of wishful thinking about China being open and our friend and sharing things with us.
	You find in the story of this laboratory in Wuhan, That we're deeply involved in it.
	The University of Texas was providing support to them.
	The lead researcher, Dr.
	Schur, she has been to the U.S. a lot.
	She's the subject of a profile.
	Her nickname in China is Bat Lady.
	Dr.
	Schur goes to bat caves, extracts the bats, gets the viruses out, and then cultivates them in the laboratory.
	Now what she was apparently doing It's revealed in these cables.
	But a lot of American scientists who know her, they already knew...
	Hey, stop.
	How can you even think that this isn't interesting?
	Because...
	Because he's about to...
	We have a bat lady in Texas?
	That's right down the street from you.
	Yes.
	Yeah, okay.
	What do you mean?
	You don't find it interesting?
	No, I thought it's fascinating.
	Okay.
	You kind of scared me there.
	I'm like, what?
	He doesn't think it's interesting?
	No, you prefaced it with a negative commentary.
	You might not find this interesting, but you have a bat lady in your town.
	I know.
	Do you know that we have bats in Texas, in Austin, under the bridge every night?
	You have a lot of bats, and San Antonio's got a lot of bats.
	It's an attraction here.
	Do you think that'll go away?
	People are crazy to go.
	The bats might poop on them.
	I don't think people are going to go on the bridge anymore in Austin to watch them at sundown to fly away.
	All right, back to the Bat Lady.
	She is adding something called gain of function to a virus, to a coronavirus.
	In theory, this is extremely dangerous.
	Why would the United States fund her to do this?
	That's an open question at this point.
	It's beginning to look like the wet wildlife market theory is not correct.
	That's a theory that China started.
	These cases somehow are coming out of that market.
	So our senators were calling for the market to be closed.
	They may be on the wrong track.
	It may be that it's the CDC and other American agencies helping the Chinese.
	They wanted more money.
	These two cables revealed they wanted more money to go to the lab to help Dr.
	Scher be more safe.
	Now, why is that?
	Because one of the gain of function features is to see if a virus can spread more rapidly to humans.
	They don't necessarily spread to humans.
	So this is very dangerous research.
	We did it too in Atlanta in the CDC. We had an accident about 2004 or so.
	So these scientists may have been sent down from our embassy to Wuhan to make sure the same kind of accident we had in Atlanta didn't happen with her, perhaps far more dangerous viruses.
	So now this is a whole new theory, Lou, that instead of the wildlife market where there were no bats, I mean, bats don't get sold there.
	This may have a different origin, which in turn affects what could happen next.
	The mystery is getting deeper, Moo.
	So what I don't have clips for, but what carries on from this is the way the Bat Lady was experimenting was with something that reportedly has been found.
	There's some proteins in the coronavirus, the SARS-CoV-2, That are identical to HIV. And
	that contains the SARS virus in it, and so it gets into the system through those GP40 and GP120s, if that makes any sense.
	I don't know what I'm talking about.
	I've just read an incredible amount.
	What's interesting about those two specific proteins, GP40, and I think there's variations, can be 47, 41, and the 120, is there are about 20 patents.
	All of which have Fauci's name on it.
	And I've put a couple of articles in the show notes under Fauci.
	You can find it nashownotes.com.
	Very interesting to read exactly what went down, according to multiple accounts, but some of it's historical, with HIV and Fauci.
	The whole team, really, including Bill Gates and the Clinton Global Initiative and all these guys.
	So we've had massive failures on our side.
	We've had massive failures in China, obviously.
	But Trump is taking all of this and is going to blame the whole delay.
	On the WHO, the World Health Organization, I feel the CDC should get some flack.
	They're not getting it.
	By the way, the chief of the CDC was a part of the Harvard, I'm sorry, the John Hopkins Event 201.
	He's also tightly tied into Fauci from previous business issues.
	The CDC guy.
	So whether they screwed up tests or not, they're being protected by the president.
	And he's saying it was the WHO. And the way he's going to tie it together is by saying China...
	Does not recognize Taiwan.
	China has complete control of the World Health Organization.
	Therefore, when Taiwan, December 31st, said, hey, we have a human-to-human transmission here, the World Health Organization ignored it.
	They didn't take it.
	They rejected the information.
	And that is going to be used by President Trump, certainly, to blame them for all late delays.
	He did part of the timeline yesterday.
	The reality is that the WHO failed to adequately obtain, vet, and share information in a timely and transparent fashion.
	The world depends on the WHO to work with countries to ensure that accurate information about international health threats is shared in a timely manner.
	And, if it's not, to independently tell the world the truth about what is happening.
	The WHO failed in this basic duty and must be held accountable.
	It's time after all of these decades.
	The WHO failed to investigate credible reports from sources in Wuhan that conflicted directly with the Chinese government's official accounts.
	There was credible information to suspect human-to-human transmission in December 2019 which should have spurred the WHO to investigate and investigate immediately.
	So, WHO and China, although not President Xi, clearly in the President's sights.
	It's interesting who's popping up to defend the World Health Organization.
	There's a lot of interesting things taking place.
	I think that we're still waiting to see if China will actually...
	Spend any of the $250 billion they are contractually obliged to spend, mainly on a huge chunk on farm products.
	Apparently that's not moving so fast.
	The trade agreement went into effect April 1st.
	We haven't seen a lot of movement.
	Remember, they have the big force majeure clause in the contract that basically says, well, if anything happens that screws stuff up, then we can always come back to the table and talk again.
	And then this happened.
	The state health department confirmed that more than 80 employees at Smithfield Foods have tested positive for COVID-19.
	KELOLAND's Sarah McDonald tells us how state and city officials are responding.
	The state health department says there are new cases at the Sioux Falls meatpacking plant every day.
	We are able to do contact tracing with all of the positive cases, and so that work continues so that we can make sure that those people are taking appropriate precautions.
	And so at this point, we do not feel that there is a risk to folks outside of the individuals impacted.
	Mayor Paul Tenhaken says city leaders in the city health department are in close contact with officials at Smithfield Foods.
	We're on daily calls with them and I actually was just emailing with their plant manager last night, his name is Mark Griggs.
	The CEO of Global Smithfield has been here as well to make sure the plant has taken the measures seriously as well.
	The state says they are also working with Smithfield Foods to make sure the plant is taking the proper steps to help mitigate the spread of COVID-19.
	So this is a, they say, meat factory sometimes, but it's pork, because all they do, as far as I can tell, it's in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
	They have 500 or 600 people who have been infected, a big outbreak, shut it down, shutting it all down.
	Which is problematic because you've got pigs that continue to grow.
	This is 25% of the U.S. pork production.
	And a big client, of course, is China.
	And China needs the pork.
	A reminder.
	Sun Dao has spent 30 years as a farmer.
	He's now suffering his greatest hardship, losing thousands of precious pigs.
	15,000 pigs have died, and in this period, we had to continuously do tests.
	Those working in the farms don't gain much and can't sell.
	They can only kill them.
	This is painful.
	African swine fever spread to his farm in Hebei province, just outside Beijing, destroying much of his herd.
	In China overall, estimates say the outbreak has caused a 40% plunge in the pig population since last year.
	Sun believes the numbers could be higher.
	Because you can't diagnose to confirm, some farmers are reluctant to declare.
	So there are some people who quietly sell dead pigs.
	Pork prices have skyrocketed about 50% from a year ago.
	That blow goes beyond the farm.
	China is the largest pork consumer in the world, and pork is a staple in many Chinese dishes.
	That's a report from October last year.
	John, you were the one that brought the whole issue to the table.
	It's been completely underreported in the West.
	Still underreported, still ongoing.
	Well, there's a couple of things I want to change here, what you just mentioned.
	I don't know how this affects the balance of trade.
	Well, if I can play this last bit, it'll be better for the conversation.
	Because here is what...
	And I wouldn't have thought to even look at this.
	I'm like, eh, pork, whatever, it's closed, south of Sioux Falls.
	Yeah, the governor's kind of cute, but who cares?
	I'm not interested in the story.
	Because of the pigibola, what we said, it's swine fever, but...
	Because of the pig Ebola, I was very interested in Smithfield.
	Do they sell to China?
	Yeah, they sell pretty direct.
	And the reason why?
	And what are the chances?
	What are the chances a country that desperately needs pork, that is in a trade kind of agreement, where they're being blamed for spreading horrible viruses, what are the chances about this company shutting down?
	I haven't heard of any other companies like this shutting down, except the one that you hear about in this NewsHour report from 2014.
	One year ago this month, a Chinese company bought America's largest pork producer, Smithfield Foods.
	The $4.7 billion deal is the biggest Chinese acquisition of a U.S. company to date.
	Another foreign deal causing chatter, if not national security concerns.
	Smithfield, agreeing to be acquired by China's Shuangwei International for $34 a year.
	It proved it would be the largest Chinese takeover of any American company.
	Questions are being raised about why China wants our pigs.
	The takeover raised concerns the Chinese government was a hidden player in the deal.
	Some members of Congress wondered why Shuangwei Group would pay more than Smithfield's market value.
	Senator Debbie Stabenow heads the Senate Agriculture Committee.
	She says food is a strategic resource that should be as important to the U.S. government as oil.
	This isn't just an acquisition of a company.
	It's 25% of the pork industry in the United States.
	Stabenow worried that the Smithfield takeover could signal a long-term threat to the vital American food industry.
	This is a precedent-setting case.
	As the U.S. government reviewed the deal, Stabenow called a Senate hearing to take a deeper look at the first Chinese purchase of a major American food company.
	This is really all about control.
	Daniel Slain, a congressional advisor who receives classified China briefings from the CIA, warned of Chinese government involvement.
	So, they have told their domestic industries, like Shanwei, go out and find these companies and acquire them.
	And in effect, American companies are not competing with a Chinese company, but with the Chinese government, and they can't win that competition.
	So, what are the chances?
	That this happens.
	Is it either A. Somehow Chinese travel infected the whole factory chain?
	Is it B. We figured that would be more fun to shut down their direct pork connection to make them buy from other pork farmers?
	I don't know.
	But there are no coincidences like this in life.
	By the way, this company is located in Virginia.
	I don't know where this other connection is.
	What connection?
	You said Sioux Falls or something.
	That's where the processing plant was shut down.
	They have a lot of operations all over the country, but they're headquartered in Virginia.
	It's well known as a Virginia meatpacking company.
	Smithfield invented a certain kind of ham that competes with prosciutto.
	It's called a Smithfield ham.
	It's still very popular, even though it's extremely salty.
	I have my phone ringing.
	I know.
	You should take it off the hook like you normally do.
	I normally take it off the hook, but it happened a couple of times.
	I don't know why.
	Here's the thing.
	Why does anybody working in a boiler room?
	They're not six feet apart.
	Back to the Smithfield.
	Back to the ham.
	I'd have to say...
	Well, you know, all three of those possibilities exist, and I think it's a bunch of Chinese going back and forth, because they are freaked out, and they brought the virus with them and infected the plant.
	Go take that phone off the hook.
	So you don't have to.
	Why don't you do it?
	So when they call back...
	I'll do it on the next break.
	On the next commercial break.
	Okay, fine.
	Good.
	So I think it's...
	I just think this is largely...
	I don't think there's anything to this story about the meat factory.
	The Chinese love to get the pork over there, for sure.
	I don't know what it does, since they own the company, what it does for balance of trade.
	Do they get credit as they make the profits go back to China?
	I have no idea.
	I have no idea.
	All I know is no other food company has been shut down but this one, and it comes amidst when they really need pork.
	Yeah.
	And they're supposed to be buying it.
	And they're supposed to be buying it from us.
	And I think that they were counting on their backdoor operations, the same thing they do with Gucci bags in Italy.
	They're shipping the pork out directly to China.
	Gucci bags made in China?
	Gucci bags, no, they're made in Italy by Chinese.
	$26 for a complete Gucci bag.
	Well, you know, that area in Italy where they got all the infections is really part of the Belt and Road.
	Yes.
	Italy was the first state in the European Union to jump on board with the Belt and Road Initiative.
	There was supposed to be a big 5G opening.
	And it resulted in the Chinese buying all of the companies there that make luxury goods.
	Yeah.
	And that's the same part of Italy, the northern part, where those companies are, and that's where the Chinese are.
	The place is loaded with Chinese.
	So maybe that's what happened.
	I don't know.
	I have to assume that that's what happened.
	I just don't see the United States pulling a starve-em-to-death trick.
	It's just not our style.
	Our style is the booby-trap style.
	We're booby-trap style.
	Let's listen to...
	Yamiche for a second.
	By the way, I'm going to give you, I hate to do this after the fact, but I have to give you a clip of the day for that Bat Lady clip.
	Getting that is just pulling a rabbit out of a hat.
	Thank you, Steck.
	Oh, so Steck is sold out and he's only providing you with these clips now.
	Oh, he hasn't been sending you clips for two years.
	Yeah, I noticed.
	Yeah, something you said.
	Or ate.
	I don't know.
	I didn't say anything.
	I don't know.
	Something you ate.
	Something I ate.
	Here's a...
	Just because I got you, Mish.
	Who is not Ados?
	She's Haitian.
	I thought she was African American.
	Both her parents are from, she's Haitian American.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Which is fine, but I just want to make sure when she calls herself a person of color.
	Which she is too.
	That's so confusing.
	She always has a grimace on her face.
	You ever watch her?
	Here she is towing the party line.
	For a president who has made it a pattern to have remarkable days, this was possibly the most remarkable White House briefing that I've ever seen.
	This is the one where he played the supercuts.
	This was a White House briefing where the president, in the most overt way that I've ever seen, turned the White House briefing room into a sort of campaign rally.
	This is the part I don't understand.
	I've seen Trump's rallies.
	I don't recall him playing a supercut during a rally.
	He doesn't play any videos.
	He doesn't have any signage.
	I didn't see him yelling at the reporters to join in a chant.
	I don't see where this is compared to a campaign rally.
	I just don't see the comparison.
	She's never been to one or has never even viewed one or even watched one on YouTube.
	This is bad reporting.
	Sort of campaign rally.
	We've heard from people close to the president that he likes doing these briefings because he knows that millions of people are watching.
	But to play...
	Which is exactly why the news organizations keep cutting away or don't want to put him on because they know what happens.
	He who is shown on TV the most wins the election.
	That's the rule.
	We've learned that now.
	That video, that was essentially a campaign-style video.
	And it was interesting.
	The first question, and it trended for about half an hour on Twitter because I knew it would.
	The first question was, I don't have it here.
	Who edited that?
	Who edited that?
	Clearly trying to get the president to say, well, it was, you know, one of the guys at the campaign headquarters, or maybe it was the tall dude's name, the interactive guy.
	You know, he's like seven feet tall, that guy.
	Yeah, that guy.
	Yeah, who normally does them.
	This was not his work, or his team does them.
	Because then you can say, hatch act!
	Yeah.
	You think government resources for a campaign, for your own campaign?
	That's what they're trying to do, is they're trying to get him trapped into the hatch.
	Another point of impeachment.
	You must be impeached!
	Hatch impeachment!
	...shows and underscores that the president is really using part of these briefings to really talk about his own image, because he's very worried that his election, his ability to be re-elected is going to be tied to what some see, and I will say many see, is his failures when it comes...
	I think last week...
	Every mainstream outfit was yelling that the president needs to shut it down!
	Use your power!
	And shut down the whole country!
	We can't have states not listening!
	They must obey!
	Shut it down!
	You have the power!
	And the president was saying, I'd like the states to do that.
	Literally four days later, You don't have the power to do that.
	You don't have the authority.
	You can't tell them to open up.
	You have no power!
	That's all you need to see is the contrast between those two.
	It's the same side of the coin.
	Opposite side of the same coin.
	You can't say you have the power, shut it down, yet you don't have the power to make everybody open up.
	And, of course, if you look into it, does the president have this power?
	Well, under the...
	State of Emergencies Act, yes.
	He can do quite a lot.
	Was he ever intending to do that?
	I don't think so.
	Was he trolling?
	Yes.
	And here was the biggest troll.
	I mean, I got to hand it to the guy.
	I would not want this next statement on my record because it makes you sound like an idiot.
	But it got the desired effect, I guess.
	President, following up on that, there are two consortiums of states today.
	California, Oregon, Washington on the West Coast, Northeastern states, totally representing about 100 million people, who said they're going to cooperate and decide when to reopen those states.
	Does that undermine what you're trying to do?
	No, not at all.
	Let me just tell you.
	I'm going to put it very simply.
	The President of the United States has the authority to do what the President has the authority to do, which is very powerful.
	The President of the United States calls the shots.
	If we weren't here for the states, you would have had a problem in this country like you've never seen before.
	We were here to back them up, and we've more than backed them up.
	We did a job that nobody ever thought was possible.
	It's a decision for the President of the United States.
	Now, with that being said, we're going to work with the states because it's very important.
	You have local governments.
	They're pinpointed.
	It's really, you talk about, it's like a microchip.
	They're pinpointed.
	We have local government that hopefully will do a good job.
	And if they don't do a good job, I'd step in so fast.
	But no, they can't do anything without the approval of the President of the United States.
	President of the United States, I have all of the power.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	And he even explains it right there.
	But they took the bait, of course, and yelled about that for 24 hours.
	I have to play this clip.
	This is Christina Amampur.
	And she's on CNN with Kara Swisher and some Xbox guy.
	Oh, and Kara Swisher with her never-ending aviator sunglasses.
	Yeah, what was that all about?
	She always does that.
	Why?
	She doesn't like her eyes.
	She's at a home on Skype.
	She's not getting blinded by Klieg lights.
	I think she hates her eyes, and it gives her a very ominous look.
	It doesn't...
	I mean, I don't know if she thinks it's cool.
	She looks like a dumb hacker.
	Hey, man.
	That should just change your voice a little bit.
	Anyway, so Amanpour goes on and on, bitching and moaning, and her theme is to...
	And I know you didn't like listening to that phone ringing and ringing and ringing.
	You're not going to like this clip for that reason.
	But just let it go.
	The theme of this whole thing was they have to stop broadcasting these press conferences by Trump.
	Because he's killing people.
	Because all he does is go up and lie and lie and lie and lie.
	And so she does a fact check.
	Oh.
	We did that fact check twice.
	The thing that was turned into a cartoon by Jennifer.
	Oh, the 16,000 lies that turn out to be...
	Yes, none of them are a lie.
	This is worse.
	There's no lie here.
	One's an opinion.
	Trump's opinion apparently is a lie.
	But if you listen to these things carefully, you hear it.
	She gives the time that he said something.
	She says what he said, or they play what he said, and then she contradicts it with her fact-checking, which is...
	It's from the planet Jupiter, as far as I can tell.
	Nobody is more complicit in that than Fox News.
	And let us just, for all of you, for both of you, I want to put a graphic of some of the recent inaccuracies from President Trump.
	And we're doing this explicitly because this is a matter of life and death.
	There's no pussyfooting around this.
	This is not a political issue.
	It's a science issue.
	It's a life and death issue.
	I'm glad she has a bunch of health experts there.
	So she's a health expert.
	What other health experts there?
	Scientists?
	Some ex-Fox reporter who's irked that he got fired, I guess, and Kara.
	Oh, and Kara.
	Oh, she's also a health expert.
	And I see we had Dr.
	Kiki there as well.
	People are learning through science!
	So on April 7th, President Trump says on hydroxychloroquine, I really think it's a great thing to try.
	Lie!
	Fact check!
	Fact check!
	She didn't say it right!
	It's hydroxychloroquine!
	You said hydroxychloroquine!
	Fact check!
	Life and death issue.
	So, on April 7th, President Trump says on hydrocloxaclorine, I really think it's a great thing to try.
	This is chloroquine.
	Fact check.
	Clinical trials are underway, but the FDA and top public health officials have not endorsed Trump's view that the drug can be taken safely.
	Do we need to explain that, yes, the FDA has done that, or does it sound like that?
	Yes, we can explain that.
	But he says, she quotes him as saying, I think it's something we should be trying.
	That is nothing to fact check.
	How is that fact checkable?
	She is the core queen.
	I say, well, Adam, I don't know.
	I'm thinking about buying a new car.
	Fact check!
	I mean, there's no fact check involved.
	I just want that jingle of you just saying fact check.
	Fact check!
	March 30th.
	We've done more tests by far than any country in the world.
	By far.
	Fact check.
	True that the U.S. has done more tests than any other country, but on a per capita basis, it's way behind Germany, Italy, and South Korea.
	March 26th on The Pandemic.
	This was something that nobody has ever thought could happen to this country.
	Fact check.
	U.S. intelligence community and public health experts have warned for years that the country was at risk from a pandemic.
	Experts also warn that the country would face shortages of critical medical equipment.
	Okay, let's go over these again.
	The last one, if you recall, Bill Gates himself and some other people that said, and I told you to remember this old quote, the world wasn't, or it was Fauci, the world wasn't expecting this to be the, or it was Gates, the world wasn't expecting this.
	It was that quote early in the show.
	And nobody was expecting it.
	And that's all Trump said, is that we didn't expect this to happen.
	And now she quotes some old intelligence community, which is always dubious.
	And the other one's the same way.
	This is unbelievable to me that you'd say something.
	You're fact-checking.
	There's nothing to fact-check here.
	You can't say that.
	And here's the middle one was, we've done more testing than anybody else.
	And then she says, yes, we've done more testing, so she's agreeing with the fact, but not per capita.
	He didn't say per capita.
	So why are you fact-checking on the per capita?
	I mean, this is what we have to deal with.
	And she's dead sincere.
	She's thinking, she's really nailing him.
	And you got this, the guy from Fox and you got Carol Smith nodding their heads.
	Yeah, yeah.
	These are bad facts.
	But there's no example.
	I mean, it's unbelievable.
	And people like, buy into this?
	Yes.
	But I think with the frustration that's growing with people, certainly in the United States, Starting to look at the Constitution and say, hey, you know, you don't actually have the right to do this to me.
	I'm kind of tired of this.
	Michigan is doing it.
	We went out in Austin when walking.
	It's a pretty loose vibe.
	People are not freaking out.
	People are out and about.
	They're doing stuff, going about their business.
	There's markedly more cars.
	So, you know, people are ignoring it or they don't buy into it.
	I sincerely hope one of the things that comes out of this is that people will start to question the mainstream and the influences.
	You can finally start to...
	Although I know it's wishful thinking because people have already forgotten about how the NBA is completely controlled and how they couldn't even say anything about Hong Kong because they're true owners, the true masters of them.
	China said, no, no, no, we'll have none of that.
	NPR, and I appreciate NPR doing it, although they're liars too, they're underwriters.
	It's pure sponsorship.
	They even say sponsors now on the show, which I thought was a violation.
	They did that report on Bloomberg, which is a reasonably well-respected news organization.
	That reports on financial news and gives truth in news because clearly they must be truthful to some degree because people need that to make financial choices, big ones in the markets.
	But they kowtowed, which I think one of our producers wrote us about that.
	They kowtowed to China, specifically Bloomberg did.
	And they have some audio from a...
	From a teleconference.
	And the NPR report is pretty good.
	They lay it out.
	The story never ran.
	So, Mike...
	Her husband.
	Sue.
	I should probably explain.
	So they wrote a story.
	Sue.
	When you play this clip again, you pay careful attention to the way the woman says, Sue.
	Sue.
	Yes, this is a good clip.
	I'm glad you got this.
	I listened to it.
	It was very...
	Yeah, I didn't clip it, but I'm glad you did.
	Yeah, I clipped it down as a longer report.
	So it was a news story about some elites in China and how they were clearly corrupt and stealing money.
	And it was a very well-sourced story.
	And not only did it not get published, but the guy who wrote it got fired.
	And then Blueburn apparently threatened the guy's wife not to say anything.
	He goes, oh my, what if China finds out?
	The story never ran.
	So...
	Sue.
	Her husband.
	Mike and some of...
	By the way, what is this now?
	NPR is doing Radiolab.
	You hear that?
	No.
	She goes, Sue, Mike, and then he cuts in.
	Her husband.
	Listen, they're doing Radiolab.
	So, Mike.
	Her husband.
	Mike and some of the...
	Thanks, NPR. Oh, oh, oh.
	That's odd.
	Yes, I noticed this in this report.
	They do this, I think, twice.
	Yeah, they're doing some Radiolab stuff.
	It's like virtual brackets.
	Well, it's Radiolab style.
	Hey, man, let's do it like that popular show.
	Okay, both.
	Just, we're asking for answers about why was this story killed?
	The famously intense founding editor-in-chief of Bloomberg News finally weighed in.
	That's Matthew Winkler.
	Back then, two editors told me the story needed work.
	That's not the reason Winkler cited for killing it.
	It is for sure going to invite the Communist Party to completely shut us down and kick us out of the country.
	So I just don't see that as a story that is justified.
	NPR obtained this recording of Winkler on an October 2013 conference call.
	Winkler praised the team but warned about covering the Chinese regime, which he called...
	The Nazis who are in front of us and behind us everywhere.
	And that's who they are, and we should have no allusion to that.
	The Chinese authorities had searched Bloomberg's bureaus, delayed visas for reporters, and ordered state-owned companies not to sign new leases for Bloomberg terminals.
	The terminals offer subscribers specialized financial data and are the most important source of the company's profits.
	And China was seen as a growing market and a strategic priority.
	Again, Matthew Winkler.
	Use the information that you have in such a way that enables us to report But not kill ourselves in the process.
	Bloomberg News and Winkler, who's retired as editor-in-chief, declined to comment.
	In 2013, Mike Bloomberg was mayor of New York City and denied Bloomberg News killed the China story.
	Two months later, back at the company he founded, asked about the China controversy again.
	Mike Bloomberg said it was arrogant to impose American values on others.
	If a country gives you the license to do something with certain restrictions, you have two choices.
	You either accept the license and do it that way, or you don't do business there.
	Which is something we all need to remember.
	It's not just Bloomberg.
	It is also CNN. I was talking with the Keeper about it yesterday.
	It's so hard to imagine that you have an entire organization...
	Whose culture is to kowtow to the Chinese.
	Because, of course, if you go down to the left, like at MTV, this is a good example.
	At MTV, you said, hey, we have a corrupt-ass deal.
	We're doing all kinds of back-end stuff with Sony Records, with CBS. We got some advertisers in the deal.
	It's all jacked up.
	So whatever you do, make sure you say, every single time you say Michael Jackson, comma, you say the King of Pop!
	You're in the King of Pop story.
	We had to come back for a whole weekend and re-taped 48 hours of MTV because the deal they made at the top hadn't flowed down to the bottom, so no one did the Michael Jackson, the King of Pop, is debuting his video this weekend.
	And that kind of stuff, it trickles down, you don't question it, it's just seen as annoying, like, ah, those a-holes, and I gotta come back for some deal, you know, whatever.
	And the next time, you forget about it.
	And you're just like, okay, we'll do it, fine, whatever.
	Because you like your job.
	We had the car service.
	It's the way it is.
	Throughout media, people don't want to believe it, but it's a fact.
	Now, I do have a travel tip.
	I'm just going to get a little off.
	We've done this before.
	I'm going to do it again.
	It's a travel tip.
	They were talking about hanging up visas and the rest.
	I was brought to China for the first time by...
	They grabbed a bunch of writers, journalists...
	From the different computer magazines, and it was Acer.
	And they brought us to China, to Suzhou, to look at their factory.
	And we got a lecture, we got a sit-down on how to fill out the application for your visa.
	And this is what everyone who's going to go to China should know.
	And I think it probably still applies.
	We're all writers and journalists and whatever.
	Nowadays it would be a podcaster.
	No.
	Under the line, occupation, you all put the same exact thing, because bureaucracy is a bureaucracy.
	And when you see the word, which you're supposed to put down, manager, everybody listening to this show, if you ever go to China, you're a manager.
	And everybody is, if you think about it.
	Yes.
	But that's the kind of thing that goes on.
	Anyway, go on.
	It's not as good as your Michael Jackson, the King of Pop story, but it's useful, useful information.
	Well, it's a fun story.
	You can work in a Michael Jackson story.
	It's always worth it.
	Oh, that's one of the better ones.
	It's so stupid.
	It's so idiotic.
	So dumb.
	I agree.
	So this one story, which was, I guess, a couple of years ago, That story, people will know now within the organization.
	If there's ever a question about, hey man, should we push for this story?
	Oh man, no way.
	Did you hear what happened last time?
	You're having to bill?
	And his wife?
	Oh my God, you don't want to know anything about that.
	So no, that's not going to happen.
	A few more loose ends, because I really, with obsession, I follow the information coming out from the task force.
	That whole 45 minute with the survivors, I don't think a single inch of footage, to use an old term, showed up on the mainstream.
	No one used any of it.
	It was nice.
	It was a nice little convo.
	I wanted to play a piece of it, of the president with the COVID-19, and this is COVID-19, the COVID-19 survivors.
	This is State Representative Campbell.
	Of course, she...
	Made quite a splash by saying, hey, even though I'm a Democrat, the president saved me.
	Dan, she's just been on Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes and Anderson Cooper every single night with this great story.
	Oh wait, no, that hasn't happened.
	So here's her story.
	So if we could, we'll go around the room and if we could start with you, Representative, and congratulations.
	It's an incredible story.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Mr.
	President.
	Thank you, Mr.
	Vice President.
	It's such an honor to be here and it's such an honor to be here amongst all of you survivors.
	I just can't say how wonderful it is to see your face and thank you for everything that you have done.
	I did not know that saying thank you had a political line.
	I didn't know that.
	I thought just saying thank you meant thank you.
	And I do.
	I sincerely appreciate that because had you not brought This to the forefront of the HQ of being able to put this out here.
	I wouldn't be here today to even have this conversation with you and to be able to talk about the needs of Detroit and talk about the people who really need this.
	And they need help.
	And you're here to address that.
	And I sincerely appreciate that from the both of you, from the bottom of my heart and from the people of my city.
	You were so incredible as a representative, both in terms of how you got better and what you went through.
	And your husband sounds like a great gentleman.
	He went down there and he took care of things, right?
	He took care of things.
	That means he loves you, because some husbands would say, ah, let's not bother him.
	He will do whatever he has to do, right?
	Yes, he did.
	And that was late in the evening you did that, right?
	And we had the drugstore stocked with the medicine.
	So there was a lot of hydroxychloroquine.
	Most of the stories were hydroxychloroquine.
	And which surprises me, it would have been great for Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson to be there to share their stories since they're both alive.
	Although Rita Wilson has now said, I don't know, there's no video or audio of it.
	She says, oh, be careful of that.
	It made me really sick.
	She also did some rap later.
	Trump did.
	He's on board now.
	I guess he's given Fauci a little bit.
	From the beginning, we heard the word Gilead.
	And indeed, Gilead is on deck.
	We're going to see whether or not, Mark, whether or not what you did and whether or not what Karen did, whether or not that that's a big part of the answer.
	But I think it could be a part of the answer.
	Let's see.
	You know, there's one alternative.
	But we're going to have numerous alternatives.
	There's another one just came, you know, the Gilead drug.
	Remdesivir just came out, and it didn't come out.
	It's a highly sophisticated, very, very sophisticated treatment that seems to show good promise also.
	So Remdesivir, which he called the anti-rival, which he played on the previous clip, is $1,000 per dose versus the almost free hydroxychloroquine.
	Interesting about the Gilead drug Remdesivir is when Wuhan, and I only found this, when Wuhan just started, when they were going into lockdown, Gilead sent a huge supply of Remdesivir to China, and the Chinese immediately patented Remdesivir in China.
	I'm not quite sure what the implications of that are, I just thought it was, wow, okay, so does that mean...
	Sounds like intellectual property theft.
	Intellectual theft, right?
	Yeah, intellectual property theft.
	You would think that if they had a drug, these drug companies are big, especially Gilead, those monsters.
	These guys do international patenting.
	They don't patent for one country.
	But it's right there, and there's several news reports about that.
	There would be a licensing or something.
	It said patent.
	I would think license, but it said specifically patent, so I don't know.
	All I know is it's another data point.
	Somebody out there, give us a...
	I need some help here.
	It's between Fauci and the World Health Organization and Gilead and Gates.
	It's a horrible, ugly mess.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	I do have a WHO clips.
	Oh, before we get into that.
	I just want to finish up with these loose bits.
	Two more.
	The president also lit a fire yesterday by saying that he was going to use Article 2, Section 3 of the Constitution and force both the House and the Senate into adjournment so that he can ram through a whole bunch of important nominations.
	It's kind of interesting what he's trying to say and do here.
	The Trump administration has gotten, I think, 400 federal judges appointed.
	That's what they've been spending their appointing time on.
	So they have not even brought anyone else forward because they find it...
	And the president said himself yesterday, it's more important to have federal judges.
	That's a bigger deal than anybody else.
	But now I need them.
	Now I need them.
	I need my appointments.
	The problem with the judges is that the game is being played in the Senate, who of course have to approve by 60 votes, have to approve all of these nominations.
	No.
	Are you talking about the judges?
	No.
	Civil majority.
	They passed the cloture, but they eliminated that.
	It was actually the Democrats who eliminated it some time ago, and the Republicans were taking advantage of it.
	So they don't need the 60 votes.
	What I understood is that there's a time limit where the Democrats have time to think about the nomination, and there's some maximum time of five days, and they're taking that for each candidate.
	Oh, that could be.
	And you can't slip in anything else in the meantime.
	But yeah, they've been doing a lot of those bum-bum, gavel-gavel, two are done through.
	Anyway, it doesn't really matter because the president is making a big deal because he wants...
	It may be unprecedented, but he also got 400 judges, so I was like, shut up.
	And what is the main reason for this?
	We already saw the signaling of it because we saw the note from the 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue blog that said, hey, the voice of America, man, these guys are no good.
	It looks like they're kowtowing to China.
	Or at least they go through a long process.
	So it takes days and days and there's no time left.
	And it's just a concerted effort to make life difficult.
	An example is Michael Pack.
	He's my nominee for the CEO of the Broadcasting Board of Governors.
	It's Broadcast Board of Governors.
	And he's been stuck in committee for two years preventing us from managing The Voice of America, very important.
	And if you heard what's coming out of the Voice of America, it's disgusting.
	When things they say are disgusting toward our country.
	And Michael Pack would get in, he'd do a great job, but he's been waiting now for two years.
	Can't get him approved.
	The Senate has left Washington...
	Until at least May 4th, the Constitution provides a mechanism for the President to fill positions in such circumstances.
	You know, this seems to be the only craw that he's got stuck, is the Voice of America.
	There's something about it.
	Well, I mean, I follow Voice of America, and I've been astounded, and I think I mentioned it the other day.
	They're sounding more like a RT than anything.
	Very odd reporting.
	Not necessarily in America's advantage, but not against America.
	But it's just weird.
	And there's weird people involved in that deal.
	This broadcast board of governors.
	The whole thing.
	Why are we even doing this propaganda?
	That's so old-fashioned.
	So, well, we know that the Smith-Munt Act was repealed specifically so these guys could do their stuff online.
	Yeah, maybe.
	No, for sure.
	That was part of the reason.
	We can't do propaganda that doesn't reach America.
	I think we're doing propaganda all along, so...
	Oh, okay, Captain Obvious.
	I'm just telling you what the law was.
	I'm just saying.
	Well, Trump is pulling an Obama here, by the way.
	Obama did pull this stunt.
	Didn't Obama appoint people in a recess that then was deemed illegal and he had to unappoint them or something?
	I don't know if the illegal part of it was true.
	I think it's maybe one or two instances, but he was cranking away when he sent the Senate home, or somebody sent the Senate home, and so he started cranking out appointments.
	And this...
	In this case, I think it's done on purpose.
	The Senate could...
	Close itself and then let the president take care of some stuff they wouldn't be able to take care of.
	The Supreme Court on Thursday smacked down President Barack Obama's claim he can legally avoid Senate confirmation for nominees when the chamber is idle.
	The decision invalidates three recess appointments from the Supreme Court made by Obama to the five-member National Labor Relations Board in January 2012.
	The recess appointees had been blocked from confirmation by a report.
	So they got invalidated.
	Well, you know, that same Supreme Court may change their minds.
	God.
	They're kowtowing to Trump!
	That's the way it works.
	We've got to explain kowtow.
	I didn't realize this until our producer emailed.
	Did you see that email from him?
	Yeah, I have the email.
	I was going to read it.
	Yeah, he says, no one's saying the word kowtow anymore.
	Yeah, but kowtow's a...
	I think somebody in the chat room can see if I'm wrong.
	Dictionary.
	Here it is.
	It's a Japanese term.
	No.
	It says, koutou.
	Kneel and touch the ground with forehead in worship or submission as part of Chinese custom.
	Wow.
	So I don't know how you come up with Japanese.
	For some reason, I always thought it was a Japanese term.
	It's a Chinese word, koutou.
	K-O-U-T-O-U. Koutou.
	Well, he might be right, because nobody except us Seems to be using the term.
	Well, let me see.
	I think I have a correct pronunciation of it.
	It's kowtow?
	Kowtow?
	I think it's kowtow.
	Chinese asshole!
	Okay, that's correct.
	That's the one.
	I didn't know kowtow was based on that.
	So we've been laughing at the Chinese for centuries, apparently.
	This word has been around, kowtow.
	I mean, I grew up with kowtow.
	How could we not have some kowtowing going on?
	I got a couple of WHO questions.
	Okay, before you do that, just the last one.
	Because the president was in a good mood with all those survivors.
	It was nice to see.
	And he even messed with the reporter with a classic, classic, narcissistic, egomaniac joke.
	But I can't help but laugh.
	Well, I want to thank you all.
	Jeff, could I ask you a question?
	You're a great reporter and a nice man.
	Look at you with that mask.
	That's good.
	You look very good.
	You actually look much better, I think.
	And what do I know?
	Hey Jeff, you're a nice man, but you look better with the mask.
	I don't know how they say Trump has no sense of humor.
	It's such a New Yorker thing to do, too.
	You know, it's like, you look great, man.
	The mask makes you look better.
	I don't know.
	I can't help but laugh.
	It's all this kind of insult, this kind of strange insults a lot of people don't understand.
	No.
	No.
	Which is fine.
	So here we have the WHO chief guy.
	This is Tedros.
	Tedros.
	Yeah, this guy.
	No, not that guy.
	The other guy.
	Michael Ryan, the English guy, the spokesperson.
	He's bitching here about something.
	And he's got a tail in here, I noted, but I can't remember what it is until I play the clip.
	And of course, Judy, the administration today has been criticized for reducing that support and solidarity in a time of pandemic.
	And because in order to enact those reforms, it's going to need the support of the other members of the World Health Organization, other countries around the world.
	And what sort of criticism, Nick, directed at the U.S.? Yeah, the criticism is everywhere.
	You saw Bill Gates, whose foundation is a major funder of the WHO, say that cutting the WHO would be a bad choice.
	And, quote, the WHO is slowing the spread of COVID-19.
	And if that work is stopped, no organization can replace them.
	The world needs WHO now more than ever.
	And Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said the president is ignoring global health experts, disregarding science and undermining the heroes fighting on the front lines.
	So that's praise, but that is in contrast to the administration criticizing the WHO for many months.
	This is not the right clip, by the way, but I'm going to go with it.
	I'm sorry.
	She says that's praise, and we're...
	Pelosi goes off the deep end complaining about Trump.
	How is that praise?
	OK, let's play who to PBS Trump BS.
	Yeah, it's not only been the administration, but a lot of critics around the world has said simply that the WHO is too swayed by China.
	Let me take you back to about New Year's.
	This is the time when local doctors in Wuhan, China were telling hospital administrators that, hey, this is something new and there is human to human transmission because we're getting sick.
	But the hospitals and the local government covered that up, or at the very least silenced the So, on December 31st, the Wuhan government released a statement.
	The investigation so far has found no obvious person-to-person transmission and no medical personnel have been infected, and the WHO basically parroted that language, January 5th.
	Based on the preliminary information from the Chinese investigation team, no evidence of significant human-to-human transmission and no healthcare worker infections have been reported.
	Officials who are talking to me say that the WHO should have known better and should not have accepted Chinese language.
	But Nick, weren't the Trump administration and the WHO praising China's response back in January?
	Yeah, that's a great point, and this is really key.
	So let's take a listen to the Director General of WHO talking in January, the day after the WHO declared this a global emergency, but also President Trump praising China.
	The WHO continues to have a confidence in China's capacity to control the outbreak.
	I spoke with President Xi.
	We had a great talk.
	He's working very hard, I have to say.
	He's working very, very hard.
	And if you can count on the reports coming out of China, that spread has gone down quite a bit.
	And Judy, obviously, the President's language about China has changed, and the U.S. really does want to reform the WHO, but they need international support to do so, and it's not clear that they have that.
	Wow!
	I just want to make one comment.
	Fact check!
	Fact check!
	So the guy says that the Trump administration was praising the WHO. No!
	He said he had a good chat with Xi.
	Here it is.
	In fact, this is the clip 2-3.
	This is the ISO of...
	I edited it around so we took that middle guy out.
	We have the reporter from PBS, a known liar!
	Making an assertion that Trump was praising China, followed by the actual Trump clip that they played without the stuff in between, and here's what it sounds like.
	Also, President Trump praising China.
	I spoke with President Xi.
	We had a great talk.
	He's working very hard, I have to say.
	He's working very, very hard.
	And if you can count on the reports coming out of China, that spread has gone down quite a bit.
	Fact check, false.
	So, that's just not praising China.
	He's not praising China at all.
	How is it praising China?
	This is another example of bad PBS reporting.
	This operation is going down the tubes.
	Now, I do want to play that last clip, which is Michael Ryan of who...
	Bitching with a tell.
	The International Health Regulations is a framework negotiated by 194 countries.
	We simply implement that framework on behalf of our member states.
	What we need in WHO, like so many workers around the world, is the space, the support, and the solidarity to do our jobs.
	I didn't hear it, John.
	I didn't hear that.
	I'm going to listen to it again.
	Well, it's not really a tell in a pure sense.
	That we normally think of it.
	The tale is about this worker solidarity.
	Is this like the Communist Party or the labor movement?
	This guy's talking about the WHO and at the end he discusses the workers and their solidarity.
	When the word solidarity and workers are put together that's a socialist meme.
	Is that what the WHO has become?
	It's not a bunch of doctors and experts and professionals.
	It's a bunch of workers that have to be involved with worker solidarity and unionize.
	I just found this to be a very offensive little clip for this guy.
	You do know that Dr.
	Tedros went to the same medical school as Dr.
	Bill.
	Because neither of them are doctors!
	Actually, Tedros responded to the president threatening, which is a negotiation, of course, threatening to defund.
	We're holding back.
	We're going to stop the money.
	And I think the president needs Tedros' head to roll because that will give him the backing to say, hey, you know, not only did they lie, but they had to get rid of that guy because it was horrible.
	And I... I actually would say to a lot of the civil servants working, certainly in the CDC, it's probably a good idea to back this plan, because you really don't want Pelosi and Schiff's gang rooting around in your shit, trying to find out what went wrong and who was connected to who.
	Because the citizen journalists who have completely taken over the mainstream for their own reporting and own sanity and shrinking their own amygdalas, we figured it out.
	We figured out that it came from a lab.
	We figured out who's really running the World Health Organization.
	We figured out who Fauci is.
	We understand Dr.
	Birx.
	And we also are not stupid.
	We can look at data and models and we can say, hey, that's interesting.
	Maybe I wouldn't have made the same decision that you did, Dr.
	Fauci.
	So, what Tedros does is, instead of...
	There are different ways he could have approached this when this happens.
	He says, well, we're working on it with our partners in the United States.
	We're going to figure this out.
	There seems to be some discrepancies, whatever you would put into it.
	You could even call Comrade Trump just to make it funnier.
	No, no, no, no.
	Here's what he did.
	WHO is reviewing the impact of our work, of any withdrawal of U.S. funding, and we work with our partners to fill any financial gaps we face and to ensure our work continues uninterrupted.
	Our commitment to public health, science, and to serving all the people of the world without fear or favor remains absolute.
	So in other words, we don't need your money.
	That's what I heard him say.
	No interruption of service is here, ladies and gentlemen.
	Our other partners will fill up the gap.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, right.
	And I would like to talk about the models and hear from Fauci about the incredibly poor data and poor models.
	But first, it is high time I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in chloroquine, John C. Dvorak!
	Chloroquine!
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, ships and sea boots on ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the dams and nights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls.
	Hello, trolls.
	They're all in the troll room, which you can find at noagendastream.com.
	First, we count the trolls.
	And trolls today, 1679.
	Not bad for a Thursday.
	Just shy of 1,700 people live in the troll room listening along to our stream, noagendastream.com.
	In particular, these times when you're at home, hop into the troll room, say hi to everybody, and troll around for a bit.
	You can also, at the same time, listen real-time, you can listen to podcasts that are playing on NoAgendaStream.com, and you can troll the host if it's a live show, all kinds of fun stuff.
	NoAgendaStream.com.
	NoagendaSocial.com is where you want to go if you want some uninterrupted good interaction with Gitmo Nation.
	Completely free.
	Just ask for an invite over there at the Troll Room.
	And in the morning to our artist for episode 1233.
	We titled that one, Who Cares?
	And it was, Who Swiped My Bike?
	Who did our Easter episode artwork?
	I liked it immediately.
	It was the little chickies with the masks, with the medical masks on.
	Yeah, I didn't see it at first.
	Oh, really?
	No, I didn't see it.
	I mean, I looked at when I saw the ones, I liked it.
	For some reason, it just like, I think it was because the He used the template that is almost hard to see against that background template.
	But it definitely was the best.
	People laughed.
	They really liked it.
	It's very funny.
	A lot of kudos.
	And he even has the purple.
	Yes, it does.
	Purple tweets.
	Peeps.
	Peeps.
	I think I said this before.
	I have a 10-year-old pack of tweets that is in the display case.
	And it's interesting because it looks exactly like the peeps, but each one of them is rock hard.
	Rock hard?
	Rock hard.
	Rock hard!
	Do you like them rock hard?
	You might.
	Oh, boom.
	Now let's start with Trenton Scoville's top of the list.
	We had a pretty good promotion, I will say.
	Well, hold on.
	Screw you and your promotion.
	This show works on value for value.
	I'm not saying the promotion was bad, but it's value for value.
	We've never taken a dime from advertisers, commercial interests, corporate money, and nothing.
	If we say we like something, it's because we like it.
	If someone gives us product for it and we like it, we like it, but there's no deals.
	Even our merchandise we don't do.
	It's all handshake stuff.
	Hey, come on.
	Let's be a good vibe together.
	Let's do this on value for value.
	So, when I look at the donations for today, which, of course, we're numerological nutbags here at Gitmo Nation.
	Our media tribe loves numbers.
	When you get a 1, 2, 3, 4, you're going to expect something.
	What I'm seeing is a lot of appreciation for the value that we provide.
	And when I woke up this morning, I was like, wow, we got some instant nights.
	This is really cool.
	It makes me feel good about the work we've been doing.
	It makes me feel good about the work all of our producers have been doing because we just put it all together.
	Yes, we bring the experience, but a lot of this comes from the producers who may not be supporting us financially, but don't.
	Give us information, knowledge, background, clips, find things, research.
	So congratulations to all of you on the value that No Agenda Show has created and is receiving today.
	So yes, and in that regard, great promotion, John.
	Fabulous promotion.
	Now, a lot of it has to do with the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, which again, as you've pointed out before, people, for some unknown reason, I think this may be true of any large group, They're attracted to numerological phenomenon.
	And 1, 2, 3, 4 is one of the possible things you could have done today because it was show 1, 2, 3, 4.
	But what's interesting to me, I don't want to belabor this because we're already going to have a long segment that's going to take us past and the affiliate should be notified immediately, is that I use a thing that PayPal has where you give you three donation offerings.
	In this case, it was 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 23, 45, and 12, 34.
	But there's a fourth box saying choose your own number if you wanted to vary it.
	So instead of picking 1, 2, 3, 4, the majority of the people who wanted to donate the highest amount of money, and we got four or five of them here, Went to the option box and put in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
	Interesting.
	And that was done by them.
	Huh.
	So I found that to be incredibly interesting because, you know, I'm the guy who has to track all this stuff.
	And so we end up with Let me take a look down here.
	I think maybe we had two people that picked 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	No, here we are.
	1, 2, 3, 4.
	There's three of those.
	But the majority is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
	And the fact that we have this many, because I'm always throwing in a big number.
	Go ahead.
	You won't get it if you don't ask.
	This is an astonishing day.
	We have to thank these people profusely.
	And unfortunately...
	The first guy on here, Trenton, I'm not sure I'm supposed to use his last name.
	I can't find his note.
	Now, I will find his note eventually, because I think he sent a note with a different last name, and it got mixed up, and I didn't print it out.
	But I will have the note for the second half of the show.
	Trenton donated 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
	It says sending a note, but there's no...
	I couldn't find anything either.
	So we'll be getting it, but just since we don't have anything, I've got to give him a karma.
	I've got to hand that out.
	You've got karma.
	Meanwhile, Sir Dreb Scott of the ELB Express comes in with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6...
	And he says, by my accounting, this donation brings me to Earl's status, but I have yet to claim a protectorate.
	If the peerage committee approves, Earl at large continues to seem appropriate for me.
	And I like the idea of Earl at large, so you get that.
	My accounting is below, and he's got the thanks for the amygdala protecting deconstruction twice weekly on Thursdays.
	Keep up the great work.
	73s.
	So I put Earl at large for his title change?
	Yeah, Earl at large.
	All right, got it.
	Done.
	Anonymous, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
	Anonymous, no jingles, no karma.
	That moves things along.
	Thank you.
	Baronet Octane in Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, UK. Cambridgeshire?
	I said that.
	Do you know the way to Cambridgeshire?
	Yeah, I did say that.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
	But now we're dealing with some serious donors.
	Dear Podcasters, I couldn't miss the perfect opportunity to make what was one of the most numerological special donation amounts that she even mentions in the best show in the universe.
	That is until you make it to show 2, 3, 4, 2, 3, 4, 6.
	Sure.
	Hey, John.
	How many cars does a Zephyr have?
	I'm...
	So, I will mention, I don't want to do it, you know, I don't want to overdo it, but for you out there who like numbers, next show, a Fibonacci.
	Well, this is also a Fibonacci.
	One, two, three, four is Fibonacci, is it not?
	One, one...
	Oh, no, no, it is one, two, three, five is Fibonacci, you're right.
	Yeah, one, two, three, five.
	Yeah, four is out.
	Ooh, oh my God.
	Well, we'll see.
	There are many other interesting numbers before that.
	I'm excited to listen to the show 1618, The Golden Ratio Show.
	Keep that in mind.
	By my calculations, that will air sometime in 2024.
	Yeah!
	Just in time for President Ivanka.
	We will be licensed by then.
	Unfortunately, I don't hold much hope for Gitmo Nation East Peso staying very strong as the virus progresses and we're actually really going to finally, definitely, absolutely Brexit.
	Yeah.
	2024?
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	It's going to be delayed.
	It may struggle to afford Gitmo Nation West currency.
	Perhaps Bitcoin will be the mainstream by then.
	Who knows anyway?
	As always, a huge thank you for doing what you do and keeping our amygdala.
	Svelte, N-J-N-K, Love and Light, Baronet Octane.
	Then we have Sir Dave, Duke of America's heartland in the Arabian Peninsula, who I think is still in Riyadh.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 from him, a consistent supporter of the show.
	Dearest Bhagwan and Reverend Moon, in close, please find your cut of my contract completion bonus as I complete my year supporting the USA's military-industrial complex here in Saudi Arabia.
	Eh, it's a living, he says.
	Since I'm stranded here in the kingdom, apparently there's some sort of worldwide epidemic.
	COVID or something?
	You should look into it.
	I went ahead and re-upped for a second contract.
	I figure being stuck here in Riyadh with a paycheck is far better than the alternative.
	Yeah.
	which would be halal-less and homeless, visa-less and roaming the streets, scrabbling for garbage with packs of feral dogs and dodging the police who now have checkpoints established to control the movement of citizens.
	Apparently, the checkpoints are because of various scrofulous scoff laws not obeying the rules.
	If you need a pharmacy or have to go to hospital, you have to use the Saudi Red Crescent app that you must download to your devices.
	These are all little asterisks he puts in the, you must download it.
	You have to find the closest place and apply for a permit to leave your home.
	Upon that being granted, you have five hours to go and return.
	Oh, I'd like to know if that's a digital thing or if that comes on your phone.
	That said, I've got no room to complain.
	Typical of Western-style compounds, it has elements of a prison, such as the five-meter-tall perimeter wall, but it's comfortable.
	I get daily yard time, and there are no gangs.
	John, you'll be happy to know that there are bicyclists who, since they can't obstruct car traffic, voluntarily attempt to run over pedestrians as they whiz around the two-kilometer perimeter.
	In any case, thanks for being there for me during this year as the cornerstone of my amygdala management program.
	In fact, my head's shrinking so much, people think I have Zika.
	I just say, nope, I have no agenda.
	It's a rude Zika joke, but I like it.
	It's been a year to remember with highlights such as Supper with Tina the Keeper and Adam, and best of all, my lovely smoking hot wife's de-douching a couple of weeks ago as she joined our weird tribe.
	I love you, Dame Melody.
	Welcome!
	No jingles, but lots of goat karma for all producers, and none for the douchebags.
	Sorry, get with the program, people.
	Maybe we'll think about it.
	Thank you for your courage, Dave, Duke of America's heartland and the Arabian Peninsula.
	And thank you so much, Dave.
	You've got karma.
	Mark Wurst is the next.
	One, two, three, four, and he comes in with the amount that was optional.
	One, two, three, four.
	Halversum Holland.
	Hilversum Holland.
	ITM, gents, I've been listening to the show since Adam got kicked off of Arrow FM. Arrow FM. Arrow FM! That's the station that burned to the ground, John.
	Yeah, it's the station that you burned to the ground.
	Yet I have never contributed to the show, therefore I should be called out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	I switched off my TV 18 years ago and advised everyone else to do the same.
	That and listening to the show for all those years that kept me sane in this world filled with lamestream propaganda.
	The excellent shows of the last couple of weeks have kept my smoking hot girlfriend and me sane.
	So to show you guys my gratitude, I decided to have her join the 1234 group.
	I shall make use of the coveted night ring to put it around her finger and make her an honest woman.
	She would like to be known as Dame of the Crystal Core.
	The leftover two, three, you make a note of this.
	So we know that she gets it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The leftover 234 would, I'd like to put away towards my own knighthood if this is possible.
	Of course it is.
	Obviously.
	I would like to, you do the accounting, you can do it any way you want.
	I would like to request Karma for, you might actually only give her $9.99.99 and have Adam throw the penny and you save a penny.
	I would like to request Karma for all NA producers to leave you all with the only sane advice I can give.
	Nothing to fear, but fear itself.
	Now de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Thank you very much, Mark.
	And yeah, he's been with us from day one.
	Great to have you here.
	And we look forward to your soon-to-be-honest woman at the roundtable a little bit later on.
	You've got karma.
	Another anonymous contributor from Philadelphia, PA1234. I would like to keep me anonymous.
	I'd very much appreciate some stock and option trading karma.
	It would be more excited if you would read the following short quotation.
	Quote, Jake Truman doth you to understand that falseness and guile have reigned too long and truth has been set under a lock and falseness reigneth in every flock.
	God do bota for now is time.
	You've got karma.
	Whatever it takes, John.
	That's the best I could do.
	Randolph Luddy comes in at 1234.
	Thank you very much in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	I cannot make it through this batshit craziness without you two.
	I just want to say thanks.
	Also get NC people, North Carolinians, the citizens to stand up and protest next Tuesday, downtown Raleigh at 11 a.m.
	Hashtag reopen North Carolina or reopen NC.
	Randy, I would make a point to become a regular supporter.
	You guys are on point with your coverage of this.
	Yeah, and Randy, let us know how that goes.
	I really want to...
	Well, that'll be Tuesday, so we have a show in between.
	This is happening everywhere, John.
	People want to get back to work.
	They're tired of it.
	In America, you can't do this.
	I hear some states, oh yeah, it'll be June.
	Okay.
	June my ass.
	June my ass, indeed.
	Thank you, Randolph.
	And I will take Brian Lowe from Plano, Texas, just up the road.
	I've got to prep these jingles.
	He says, please de-douche me, first of all.
	You've been de-douched.
	If you would please call my son, back us out as a douchebag, then apply the extra 234 of this donation for him towards his own knighthood, but will make him send a donation personally to get deduced.
	I agree, Brian.
	Thank you very much.
	And Brian, of course, will be knighted today.
	I got hit in the mouth around three years ago by a fellow dude named Ben named Ben.
	What are the chances of that happening?
	After listening to a few shows consistently, I recommend three in a row to all those I give a bloody lip to, I was hooked.
	Now, in these uncertain times of need for knowledge and amygdala shrinkage, I look forward to these shows more than ever, and I'm punching a lot of people in the mouth, too.
	I figured I needed to take advantage of this angel number.
	Yeah, it's also an angel number.
	I was done waiting to have the extra money and musing about how to finalize a black knight out of the exchange via John's spam filter.
	Really?
	Being a black knight is not like something you go get the hack.
	Although just using any term like any porn term will get you blocked from John's spam filter.
	I couldn't even wait for my birthday week, which is next week on the 22nd.
	Besides, when do you ever have an extra 1K lying around?
	That's boat maintenance money.
	More importantly, is this an extra 1K or just payback for the last three years and an investment in my future?
	Well, exactly.
	It's that.
	Anyway, can you knight me, Sir B. Lowe, Knight of the Landlocked Drunken Texas Pirates?
	I'd also like some car buying and stock investing karma because I need to get unlandlocked ASAP. For the roundtable, I'd really enjoy a deep LM IPA and a fat Prime rib with raw horseradish, but that's not as likely to slide off the tongue as Adam would like, so I'm good with hookers and blow.
	No, you'll get some deep LMIPA and a fat prime rib with raw horseradish.
	I've ordered that, and now I need to do his jingles.
	What did he need?
	He needed something...
	Hello?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm looking.
	It says here, oh, you might die.
	I should have done this before, but I got it fixed here.
	You might die full of two to the head and juice.
	Oh, brother.
	Full load.
	I got the full load.
	You got the full load?
	You have the full load?
	You might die.
	I'm going to give you the whole load.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	And I'm going to make sure that order came in from your deep L-O-I-P-A. Okay.
	Thomas Lees comes up from Manchester, UK. 680.
	Home of what was once used to be called the Manchester Guardian.
	For 10 years, you have provided me with an invaluable resource of analysis and entertainment.
	I like the fact that these people have been listening for a decade, and they're finally saying, you know, through the many ups and downs of life, you have always been there.
	We're very consistent.
	In the hysterical times of the Rona, we need you and your diligent work more than ever.
	You...
	Help keep us sane.
	Here in the UK, as in many parts of the world, we have allowed unprecedented restrictions to be placed upon our historic freedoms for what is a mild disease.
	What is worse is that the public, they never, somebody pointed out, nobody ever says, you know, of 100 people who catch it, 98 of you will all live.
	That's no fun.
	No.
	We have allowed unprecedented restrictions to be placed upon our historic freedoms for what is a mild disease.
	What is worse is that the public has been conditioned by the mainstream and social media to want the lockdown and are highly supported of the measures.
	Indeed.
	Some are even asking for it to be stricter or longer.
	Take a listen to Lord Sumption, Former Justice of our Supreme Court for more UK content.
	He's got a link.
	I will check it out for possible clips.
	This donation finally makes me a night.
	Oh, I don't think he's on the list.
	No, he's not.
	He's not.
	I'm putting him on now.
	Can I be known as Sir...
	We have a big list today.
	Yeah.
	Can I be known as Sir Tom of the County of Yorkshire?
	Yorkshire.
	If Sir Paul Vela, Baron of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, is content, that's okay with him.
	Actually, the committee can take care of it, too.
	Jingles, please.
	The Hague Protect Their Freedoms.
	Oh, we haven't played that for a while.
	Oh, my goodness.
	That would actually be nice to play.
	Don't be a denier and shut up, slave.
	That's a good one.
	Okay.
	Denier.
	And shut up slave.
	Okay.
	Let's give it a shot.
	Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework.
	We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it.
	In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people.
	In ours, it only exists to protect their freedoms.
	Protect their freedoms Protect their freedoms Protect their freedoms The science is in - Huge.
	I am Seth Ray.
	You've got karma.
	I like that.
	I hadn't heard that in a long time.
	No, I forgot all about...
	Well, I didn't forget about it.
	Anonymous Lesbian from New York is here again.
	Hey, how's she doing?
	Well, she gave us $617.28 for the show and for her health.
	Thank you for being my sanity lifeline, which definitely would be in this time of collective hysteria.
	She's in New York, my God.
	There's no way I could have withstood this past month with my mental health intact without no agenda.
	I decided to bump up my support.
	I have a subscription for show 1234 because I need an epic dose of career karma.
	My donation of 61728 is half of 1234.56.
	I could not pull the trigger on becoming a member of the 1234 club because there three weeks ago my income vanished overnight.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	And I believe most of our artists that listen to our podcast.
	In the same boat.
	I would think so.
	Unless they're just getting royalties from albums.
	I used to make my living by performing music around the world, and now everything is canceled through September.
	You think just September?
	I expect that in the 12 to 24 months after that work will be very hard to come by if it exists at all.
	I am normally engaged two years in advance by orchestras and four of the orchestras who engaged me in late 2021 have asked me not to announce the gig because they expect that they might have to be out of the business by then.
	John was right when he said, Broadway will eat it.
	All of my contacts have evolved, evoked their force majeure clause, which means nobody gets paid a cent.
	That's right.
	Everybody's out.
	No harm, no foul, except you're screwed.
	Yeah, the force majeure clause.
	This is very commonly used.
	It should be in everybody's contract, but what are you going to do?
	No pay equals no pay.
	No play equals no pay, which is the term.
	Epic times, indeed, I know that everybody will be feeling the hit from Corona hysteria, and I even think it is reasonable in lean times that a society should cut back on art and entertainment costs, but I refuse to even consider living in a world with no art.
	We're in danger of having a cure for this problem that's worse than the damn virus.
	A society with no art, where humans are too scared to interact with each other.
	We can't survive like this, people!
	All caps.
	Thanks again to you both for guarding my reality so well.
	Can you ask the New York producers to try again for a meet-up once we are allowed out of jail?
	I missed the last two because I was out of town working.
	No jingles, just a big-ass karma, please.
	Oh, man.
	Kisses and hugs, anonymous lesbian.
	I think those are kisses and hugs for you.
	She loves you, man.
	She's like, I'm a sideshow for her.
	She's an artist.
	She's got taste.
	Thank you, Anonymous Lesbian.
	And we, of course, are going to give you a big-ass karma.
	You've got karma.
	I hope things come together quicker than that.
	I really, really do.
	I mean, so much is broken.
	So much is broken.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't feel good about this donation.
	Matthew Schock in Farmington, Minnesota, 43210.
	I'd like to de-douching.
	Oh, so we did a reverse.
	That's kind of cute.
	You've been de-douched.
	Yeah, that's cute.
	That's actually very cute.
	It would have been an idea.
	I'd like a deducing to Karma.
	This is my first time donating.
	I've always told people to support what you love or it will go away.
	If you support it, it won't go away, but if you don't support it, it will go away.
	He's right.
	Birthday shout-out to AJ Bolin, whose birthday was yesterday, April 15th.
	We've got him on the list.
	Keep up the great work, and thank you for your sanity.
	And thank you for your support, Matthew.
	You've got Karma.
	We have Dexter Bodepart, 420-69, and he did send an email in which I did isolate.
	An ISO'd email, everybody, with a code 420.69.
	What could it mean?
	What could it mean?
	Now I've got to find a note, which I... Don't make me roll it out.
	You have it?
	No.
	Don't make me do the...
	Oh, no, no.
	I don't want to hear it.
	Because I've already found it.
	It's just I put it somewhere.
	Uh-huh.
	Well, I'm an idiot.
	No, no, no.
	No, I have it.
	It's right here.
	There it is.
	You've got mail.
	There it is.
	Good day, gentlemen.
	Please accept this, my second donation in the amount of 42069 Canadian.
	A year ago, I felt...
	I don't know what it came in as.
	I felt fortunate to name this donation amount the Afternoon Delight.
	My excitement waned as only one after Afternoon Delight came in for your April 20th show.
	How can I help John and Adam get their hands on some of that sticky icky 420 slash 69 cash?
	I wondered.
	A jingle, of course.
	And what better time than now?
	And most have been cowering in place and staring at the news ticker.
	Some of us feel blessed at the opportunity to be at home with our sweetheart during the day, not stressed or smelly from work, able to enjoy some afternoon delight.
	I think I know what he's getting at.
	Am I supposed to insert the jingle?
	Monday is April 20th.
	Monday is April 20th.
	If any listeners were considering celebrating, then donating 420 to this, the best podcast in the universe, why don't you kick it up a notch and have more fun in the process?
	Granted, the afternoon delight breaks I've sent two options of adequate jingles for the afternoon delight donation.
	May I suggest that you gentlemen, as well as all afternoon delight enthusiasts, vote for the official afternoon delight jingle.
	Sorry for the long note.
	So the jingles...
	It's a long way to go.
	This guy seems a little preoccupied.
	I got him.
	I got the two jingles.
	Here's one.
	And here's two.
	Very creative.
	Very creative.
	But there is a good point, speaking of numbers, that Monday will be April 20th, which is 420.
	Yeah.
	You should remember that.
	Oh, I'll remember.
	Of all people, I'll remember.
	He wants to have the karma.
	Yeah.
	But he wants it.
	You already have these, or you had them queued up.
	Biden, the whole load.
	Don't ask.
	Nobody gasped for this.
	Now two guys do.
	Two to the head and a pew-pew.
	Okay.
	A whole load to the head and a pew pew.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	Yeah, we got it.
	We got it.
	We got it.
	Sky rockets in flight.
	Afternoon delight.
	I gotta set this up because it's kind of complicated.
	Oh, shoot.
	Sorry.
	Wrong one.
	That was not the whole load.
	Oh, brother.
	Now I gotta do it again.
	Here we go.
	Skyrockets in flight.
	Woo!
	Afternoon delight.
	I'm going to give you the whole load today.
	You've got karma.
	Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Take this one.
	Miguel Espinal from New York, New York.
	Sorry?
	No, you just passed over the number.
	$350 from New York, New York.
	In the morning, my ninjas.
	This donation is almost seven years late.
	Life has been a chaotic mess for me.
	Oh, brother.
	That's your word, chaotic.
	A chaotic mess for me.
	Okay, here we go.
	Chaotic.
	Divorced.
	A second human resource.
	Homeless.
	My mother had three brain surgeries.
	Then a third unexpected human resource.
	Holy crap.
	Uh, Well, that's kind of like a country record, man.
	I asked to be de-douche first and foremost.
	You've been de-douched.
	Adam and John have been a listener of the podcast for many years.
	There's 11 years, episode 67 to be exact.
	The amount of knowledge that has been shed from John and Adam, it's amazing.
	The many things covered by y'all is equally enormous.
	Let's remember back to the amazing Haiku Herman, Adam's daughter using gummy bears in place of finger scan to not be marked late for school.
	I've forgotten that one.
	Well, I forgot it, too.
	Yeah, they would do their finger on a gummy bear, and so someone else would then use the finger scanner to check them into school.
	This is a long time ago, man.
	This is 2005, I think.
	Anyway, John talking about baby's balls not dropping being a concern.
	I don't remember that one.
	I have to thank Nick the Rat, Sir Alex, Sir John, and the lovely Dame Tanya who reminded me at the New York meetup I was the black guy with the gold teeth.
	Of the services you gentlemen provide and how essential it is.
	Here in New York City, sadly for me, the Rona virus has taken a huge toll on my family and friends.
	Oh, jeez.
	My father has been in ICU for 19 days now with the worst pneumonia ever.
	Friends and family have been dropping dead and only to...
	I'm sorry.
	Have been dropping dead and only to receive them in the mail.
	And only to...
	I don't understand this.
	Friends and family have been dropping dead and only to receive them in the mail in a can.
	Okay, I got it.
	It's like ashes.
	This is horrible.
	While the country and Bill Gates' theories are what I live for, when one sees their loved ones going out left and right, some healthy as fuck, it just feels different, you know?
	Although without you gents, I would have been going crazy.
	New York City is a ghost town, and while many believe it to be a rich haven, the sad reality is that way, way more poor people live here than you'd believe.
	I'm an essential worker who's self-isolated after my dad complained about pain when he breathes, and I don't speak to that man, the irony.
	I ask for karma because I have an upcoming court case to be able to see my kids again and for the city of New York to be able to rise up out of this without receiving a certificate of vaccination.
	Yes.
	Blessings to you, gents.
	Please give some karma to my best friend, Clendy, who moved to Austin just as the rich invaded years back again and is as tied up financially as I am.
	Blessings to you all.
	I love you, John, and DH Unplugged, and I'd like listening to Adam and Mo, except for when Mo talks that ADOS is junk.
	They're a division, in my opinion.
	For a jingle, would you please play our harmonica duet again?
	Been a long time.
	I would like to be called Senor Miguel of Washington Heights, New York.
	By the way, please send a shout-out to my lovely wife, my wifey and child mom, Anne Lauser.
	Yes, good to meet you, gents.
	Wow, we definitely hope for better times for you, Señor Miguel.
	Do we have a harmonica, something harmonica for him, John?
	Or I think maybe we could just, there we go.
	I'm shocked, shocked to find harmonica playing going on in here.
	You've got karma.
	And health karma for your dad, Miguel.
	19 days.
	Long, long time.
	Not good.
	Stephen Hutow in St.
	Petersburg, Florida came in.
	He goes through the banks with his checks, and then he sends a note in, and you have to track down the note, which is always easy and straightforward.
	Value for value, he writes, love to hear my favorite clip from back in the day.
	And then he sent a second note, so he wants this.
	He wants a goat karma.
	Karma.
	He wants a goat karma, followed by Italian shut-up slave.
	That's it.
	I don't know what that'll do to the forces, but we'll see.
	I don't know.
	That's...
	Where is the...
	Where is the Italian shut-up slave?
	Yeah, I got it.
	He wants that afterwards?
	Okay.
	Yeah, he wants to go karma first.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Shut up, slave!
	Startzito, schiavo!
	She's now 20.
	She is 20.
	She's beautiful.
	She's like a model, man.
	She's so beautiful.
	Oh, yeah?
	Oh, my God.
	You may not remember.
	She looks just like Willow, only 20.
	Oh, I do remember her.
	She was the one at the wedding.
	Yeah, Sabi.
	Yeah, and she's...
	She probably doesn't listen to the show.
	No.
	But she was the one traipsing around like a model.
	Yeah.
	She carries herself like a model.
	She's beautiful and she knows it is a dangerous combination.
	Yeah, yeah.
	One of those.
	Oh, you deign to talk to me?
	Bruce...
	Bruce in Anthem, Arizona, 344.65.
	Dear John and Adam, for my birthday this year, I'm finishing up my knighthood, counting below.
	Please knight me, Sir Rotorhead, a knight of the order of the disemetry of lift.
	Okay.
	I'll be happy with the standard mutton and mead.
	I appreciate your courage.
	Jingle request.
	Any clip from The Gift That Keeps On Giving, which we know who that is.
	Yes.
	Although I guess that could be Sharpton or O'Biden at this point.
	Bruce.
	All right, Bruce.
	Thank you very much.
	Gurgle and Third Right.
	You've got karma.
	Gurgle.
	Gurgle and the Third Right.
	Gurgle.
	Lee North.
	Goebbels.
	Gurgle.
	He said Gurgle.
	He said Gurgle.
	Gurgles.
	Lee North, 333-33.
	Lee North from Omaha.
	Jingle request, Don't Eat Me AOC, AOC Revolution, Humans in Pig Clothing, Screaming Goat Karma, Celebrating the Best Podcast in the Universe with a donation.
	Please add me to the birthday list.
	You got it.
	Happy episode one, two, three, four.
	Okay, so we need Don't Eat Me AOC, The Revolution.
	What was the third one?
	And just Goat Karma.
	Okay.
	Please don't eat me, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
	Who here is ready for the revolution?
	You pigs in human clothing!
	What you've got?
	Karma.
	I don't know, but did that have the whole thing in it?
	That didn't sound right.
	Let me see.
	Who here is ready for the revolution?
	Yeah, it did.
	She sounds so much like the pigs in human clothing woman.
	Yeah, I think you pointed this out before.
	Who here is ready for the revolution?
	You pigs in human clothing!
	So close.
	It's not close.
	It is her.
	No, I don't think so.
	Sir Ho Ji Hung, Baronet of Mongolia.
	333333.
	Please accept this humble donation from a recovering dumbass PayPal user.
	This donation should bump me up to barren status.
	I respectfully request to rule over the ancient city of St.
	Agustin, Florida.
	Can I get a goat scream?
	Sir Ho Ji Hung?
	Baronet of Mong Kok, Hong Kong.
	Pending elevation to Baron.
	Accounting is got below, and there you go.
	Yes, I'll throw the goat scream inside a karma.
	I'll package it.
	You've got...
	There you go.
	Karma.
	Okay, we have Francis McCandles.
	From Cornwall, UK, Falmouth, call work, Cornwall, UK, 333.33.
	It's a whole set of threes.
	And Francis says, with apologies to my grandmother, Kathy McCandless, Am I saying that right?
	McCandless.
	Yeah, McCandless.
	I humbly request a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	It has been ages since my last donation.
	More importantly is a call for help from the No Agenda Nation.
	My grandfather, Jack McCandless, was diagnosed at the end of March with a rare aggressive form of lymphoma.
	He'll be starting chemotherapy soon.
	I'm locked down in the UK and cannot be with my family in the USA. And because of stupid COVID... Grandmother cannot be with him during his treatments.
	It's all very distressing.
	No kidding, but we are optimistic.
	Popeye is an incredible stoic man and the pillar of strength in the McCandless tribe.
	He's endlessly selfless and gives us everything, asking for nothing ever in return.
	And he's darn handsome, too.
	Although they might not understand the significance of this donation, it's the only and strongest thing I can do from so far away because karma works.
	please give my papa a huge laser focused fuck karma for fuck cancer karma for his recovery and impending test results mom and papa i love you more than the english language can convey every second i hear your voices on the phone is truly a blessing from god please also give uncle jeff and myself a small dash of jobs karma hopefully my wonderful husband tristan silva can stop having a deadbeat wife i'm sorry my love
	Adam and John, you are both incredible human beings, all caps, And I would be a mess without you.
	Sorry for the length.
	Thank you for your courage.
	And God bless America.
	With love, Francie McCandla-Silva, currently in Falmouth, Cornwall, UK. And yes, let's all do that for Papa, big time.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You've got a lot of jobs.
	We go to Anna Murkuryev in University City, Missouri.
	333.
	Thanks for keeping me sane throughout my time in academia, especially now with the COVID craze.
	And thanks to my dad, Sir Alex of the White Mountains, for hitting me in the mouth so many years ago.
	Could I please get an official de-douching?
	And a goat karma.
	You're the best.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you, Alan.
	Kim and John Watson in Aurora, Colorado sent 333 in bike check with a handwritten note, a longhand, written by Kim.
	I'll skip down to the part where the note really begins.
	She's going to give $33 of credit to her smoking hot douchebag husband.
	He hit me in the mouth about seven years ago, but it took a while to sink in.
	He's been listening since before the oil pipelines were a thing and still hasn't donated.
	Oh, no.
	He's requesting John's new special, Dirty Sanchez.
	A douchebag call out immediately.
	You bet.
	Oh, here we go.
	Followed by a de-douching.
	Oh, jeez.
	You've been de-douched.
	We really appreciate you and all the producers out there.
	Thanks for keeping it real and keeping me safe.
	Notice I can read this fast because her handwriting is impeccable.
	And keeping us sane during the crazy times.
	I even hit one of my co-workers and one of my church friends in the mouth recently.
	I know at least one of them is already hooked.
	You know who you are, Leslie.
	Sorry it took so long to start donating, but since we're both part of the new elite class of essential services, I figured now is the time to start sharing the wealth.
	Expect to start singing at 33333.
	Monthly donation.
	Keep up the good work, and God bless you guys.
	No jingles, just karma.
	You've got karma.
	Then we have Dortmund Deutschland calling.
	Hello Deutschland!
	Arjen de Jungste, 321, from Dortmund, as I said.
	Thank you for all the 1,234 shows.
	I hope there will be at least 2,345 more.
	Dream.
	I would like to request karma for my smoking hot wife and my beautiful baby, Frida.
	She was born on the numerologically perfect date of 0-2-0-2-2-0-2-0 when her dad was 33.
	Thank you for your courage, Arien DeJongste.
	Doesn't get much better than that, Arien.
	You've got karma.
	That's great, man.
	Nice.
	Matthew Needle in Wentzville, Missouri, $300.31.
	he'll be our last executive producer he's got some requests, Putin don't worry, be happy living a mac and cheese life, little girl this donation is an amount of $300.31 gets split between two fantastic people, the first is a shout out on behalf of my smoking hot wife to her brother Kevin Adam on his birthday on Friday, we got it on the list here's a hundred dollars knighthood plus 31 pennies for his age we don't need accounting in these notes You do their accounting, we're happy.
	The $200 goes for an associate executive producership and the eventual damehood for my smoking hot wife.
	She hit me in the mouth about a month ago and we started dating back in 2016.
	And you've been keeping our amygdalas of an appropriate size ever since.
	So can I get a dedouching for her and a douchebag for me?
	You've been dedouched.
	Sorry.
	There's the dedouching and the...
	Douchebag.
	Douchebag as requested and...
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	Living the mac and cheese life now.
	Mac and cheese.
	Yay!
	You've got...
	Karma.
	And John Byrne246.45 from Oklahoma City.
	And that is 123.45 plus 68, which is...
	So it's 12345 and John's belated birthday is 68.
	And...
	And a 55 for Adam's very late birthday.
	Thank you.
	And it's from Air Force John.
	Let's see.
	Air Force John, Oklahoma City.
	Shows have been great lately.
	Keep up the great work.
	How about some karma and orange scream?
	And that's true.
	That's true.
	Orange!
	You've got karma.
	Huge.
	Why don't you read Andrew Hahn and I'll go look for Joe's note.
	Okay.
	Andrew seems to have...
	I don't have anything from...
	It says, had to donate 1234 and 12.34 didn't seem G. And that's all I got.
	I don't have anything else from Andrew.
	So, Andrew, thank you very much.
	For some reason, the rest of your note didn't come through.
	So please feel free to resend that.
	Then we have Combat Rock of the Idaho Highlands.
	Dear John and Adam, thank you for the brilliant and entertaining media deconstruction.
	This is no agenda's portion of my stimulus check.
	Here in the land of fresh air and the Second Amendment, the Wuhan flu's infection death rate is very low.
	While we are adhering to social distancing protocol, we are far from a state of cower in place, and people in my small town are out enjoying the sunshine and fresh air.
	Not to belittle the loss of life, but the true tragedy is the effects on the economy and small business across the nation.
	I pray those that can, hang on, will do so.
	With this in mind, I'm requesting your strongest jobs karma for all listeners who need it.
	I'm also sad to report that Casey of TMA Land is still a douchebag.
	Please call him out.
	Douchebag!
	And then a couple of jingles, which includes Bo Jiden, and you might die.
	Did you find the email yet?
	Yeah, I got the email already.
	Okay, hold on, let me finish this.
	You might die, and what is the last thing he wants?
	And that's true.
	Okay.
	That's true.
	And a karma, I'm presuming it always includes that.
	Here we go.
	Don't eat me, Bo!
	And you're scary!
	So scary!
	You might not.
	That's true.
	That's a good combo.
	I like that combo.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	Joe Hotter, 23423.
	I just want to say I agree with everything you two say, even when you disagree with one another.
	That's an ironic commentary.
	As to the donation, please split it up as follows.
	And he's got credit associate producer to me.
	Okay, we got that done.
	And 234.23 to my dame-to-be Eugenia Rockwell.
	Well, you keep up with that yourself.
	You can do it.
	And the remainder, 33 cents to the Scott M. Memorial Fund.
	Oh, yes.
	33 cents to you.
	Jingles, Adam.
	Greta Toonberry, how dare you?
	Do we have that?
	I do now, yeah.
	Can you see that juice?
	Which, for some reason, is very popular today.
	Get out of my vagina.
	And goat karma.
	lastly, just wondering if either of you have heard of Chuck Misler.
	I followed some of his biblical exposés and find no one who can deconstruct the Bible the way he does.
	Also, think you, you'd and the Noah Genders would like the man's work except some of his lip smacking.
	He was a ham at nine.
	No way.
	Way into computers before most, as well as MP3s, held some top secret clearances in his time and has tons of videos and such on UFOs.
	Please let me know if you had.
	No, I haven't.
	I'm curious as to what you two think about the guy.
	Feel free to answer off the air if so desired.
	Okay.
	I don't know how we can do that.
	Go podcasting!
	Yes.
	How dare you!
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	Get out of my vagina!
	Get out of my vagina.
	You've got karma.
	Some classics today.
	Classics.
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, I have to say it's true.
	It's helping.
	It's true.
	Sir Joffo, the Plundering Knights 201.33 from Chicago, Illinois.
	I was planning on saving up some money and trying to contribute to the show and otherwise, but when I burst out laughing to John's, it was your idea, response to Adam for putting the show numbers in the album art for the second or third consecutive time, I knew I had to donate.
	I will take advantage of this unexpected associate executive producership to publicly pitch a suggestion for donations.
	Here we go.
	For next episode, if you're more of a buzzkill or realist, end your donation with 50 cents.
	Or if you're more of a crackpot, end your donation with 33 cents.
	I feel this is a no-agenda poll that must be done.
	Are you on board?
	Karma for my friends and family.
	Thank you.
	Sir Jofo.
	Okay, well...
	I'm okay with it.
	I don't know why...
	You've got...
	You already had one vote.
	Well, I don't understand why...
	I'm just a crackpot.
	You're a buzzkill slash realist.
	We make more...
	Yeah, that's me.
	Thanks.
	You're a crackpot.
	Sir Ned, you have his note, I think.
	Yes.
	I do.
	Shelby Township, Michigan.
	$200.20.
	I don't, I don't, I don't.
	What do I see here?
	You look for his note while I read Robert Taylor.
	It comes in $200.
	He's the last official associate executive producer, although I think Eric in Stockholm will be bumped up.
	Dear Crackpot and Buzzy, thank you for your courage.
	I want to play homage to you, to your greatness, our greatness, and lament my douchebagginess.
	Please dedouche me.
	You've been dedouched.
	I've been listening for many years and appreciate your willingness to consume all this media crap so I don't have to.
	It was a seminal show, I think, 381, where you guys broke down.
	Adam did this one.
	Broke down the pipelines that scales fell off my eyes and I could see in full color for the first time.
	That was a while ago.
	Thank you for the many years of love and light.
	This donation brings me to knighthood.
	Please knight me, sir.
	Be bop, and you're on the list.
	Be boop, knight of the frozen tundra.
	Your work is greatly appreciated and needed now more than ever.
	Amen, fist bump.
	Jingle request, just send your cash.
	Resist we much.
	That sounds pretty good.
	And small business goat karma, if you can spare it.
	I humbly request, I got ants at the end of the show.
	Well, today we're doing one single end of show for Melissa Tallon, who wrote and performed a beautiful song for us.
	So she gave you the okay?
	She did give us the okay, yeah.
	And it's my no agenda.
	It's beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	Yeah, she did give us the okay.
	She followed up.
	Okay, so the only thing is that I was still...
	I could not find Sir Ned's note.
	I did look.
	He says it's a stimulus donation.
	I could not find anything from him.
	At least you got his jingle request.
	I do have his jingles, yes.
	So let's roll those out.
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	That's true.
	You've got...
	Now, what were the...
	What were the jingles for Robert Taylor?
	The Robert Taylor jingles are?
	Pretty good.
	I heard him say pretty good.
	He wanted pretty good.
	Amen, fist bump.
	Just send your cash.
	Resist we much, and that sounds pretty good.
	And then the gold karma.
	I had that just send your cash.
	I pulled that one out.
	Send your cash.
	Resist we much.
	I like the way he puts clobbies instead of Klobuchar's.
	He calls her clobby, which I think we should implement.
	That's a pretty good one.
	Is that something we need to be doing?
	Hold on a second.
	Clobby, that sounds pretty good.
	And then a goat karma if you can spare.
	Send.
	We'll try to do that.
	I got ants for you.
	Yeah, we can do that another time.
	We do it all the time.
	I don't understand.
	Wow.
	Just, just.
	You just lost a just send your cash?
	No, I got it.
	No, it's, I got all I got.
	Well, I got a rap.
	Who cares?
	We'll do a rap.
	We'll just do it.
	I'm out of control.
	I don't know what I'm doing anymore.
	Amen!
	Fist bump!
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	You just need cash.
	Blankets or water.
	What's different does it make?
	Cash.
	You've got karma.
	Holy crap!
	That was great!
	Do you remember that one?
	And the show is concluded.
	Do you remember that one?
	I don't.
	I vaguely do remember it.
	Fantastic.
	Wow!
	Alright.
	That was it?
	That concludes it.
	We will probably bump up.
	We have a Swedish Eric Arjo in Stockholm sent $199.99.
	I believe that was just a PayPal conversion that lost him his executive producership.
	There's no note from him.
	I just tossed the penny in.
	And toss the pin and we'll bump him and he'll be up there.
	Yes.
	And that is our group of executive producers, a fabulous group today, and associate executive producers to all thank.
	I believe this is a thank you for the corona coverage, which is singular to the No Agenda show.
	We have been covering the backstory of everything with all sorts of things that you're just not.
	Nobody else is doing this.
	And so, yeah, some of these people are saying, hey, thanks.
	The state of the media tribe is strong, and we appreciate that.
	Thank you for your support, executive producers and associate executive producers.
	We do have more people to thank, but we need to get back to some regular programming for you, and we will have another show.
	We just keep doing it.
	Sunday will be our next show.
	We'll probably have a full rundown on how we're getting back to work in the United States, since that is being rolled out today on a show day, of course.
	We do have some more things to talk about, but first, a reminder where you can support the No Agenda show with our value-for-value model.
	Very simple.
	Go to...
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And I think you know more than you need to about Fauci.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Shut up, Flames.
	Shut up, Slay!
	Right.
	To the left side, something a little funny?
	Yeah.
	We have the Como brothers doing the comedy act.
	These guys, who's older?
	The governor, Andrew.
	He's older, a lot older.
	In fact, there's a picture that Chris showed on the show, which Andrew got really irked about, with Andrew Cuomo dressed like some sort of Italian weirdo.
	Not a clown costume, but just an open shirt and chains.
	He looked in a big afro.
	He looked like an idiot.
	And Chris was knee high.
	He was really small.
	So he's like more than a few years older.
	I have no brother sibling experience.
	I don't think you have a...
	You're an only child, aren't you?
	I represent the only child contingent.
	And now you understand, everybody.
	So, I have no brother experience, but is this how brothers act in public?
	Because it's creepy?
	For grown men, certainly what I've seen of Chris Cuomo, and then they have this...
	This interaction that is just cringy to be a part of.
	Do they not understand that this is lame?
	It's very lame.
	They shouldn't be doing it at all.
	Chris is a real dick to his older brother.
	Yeah.
	And Chris is looking like a dick just generally.
	I think it's hurting his credibility as a show host.
	Andrew is trying to hang in there with kind of light-hearted stuff that is not funny.
	And it's very cringeworthy.
	And I have a two-parter here.
	And it starts off with...
	And Chris is, by the way, this is Chris doing his show from home.
	Or a rented apartment because he can't be at home because his mom lives there, I guess.
	I don't know.
	I just want to make sure, just for...
	I'm sorry, John.
	For people who may not be up to speed the way we are...
	The governor of New York is Andrew Cuomo.
	You've probably heard of him in relation to coronavirus.
	And his younger brother is Chris Cuomo, who was a talking head on CNN. And they're weird together.
	So I'm sorry.
	They're very weird together.
	And so it starts off with Chris condemning Andrew for not being meaner to Trump, which I found to be very disturbing in terms of being an objective reporter.
	But let's listen to this.
	I call it the Cuomo versus Cuomo comedy act.
	This is part one.
	Now, you know, I've seen you referred to a little bit recently as the love gov, and I'm wondering if that's bleeding into your demeanor at all, making you a little soft on the president, that you don't want to really criticize him because you need him, and now's not a time for fighting.
	But don't you have to balance that with calling him out if he's doing things that you don't think are great for the people of your state to be hearing and experiencing?
	Love gov?
	I've always been a soft guy.
	I am the love gov.
	I'm a cool dude in a loose mood.
	You know that.
	I just say, let it go.
	Just go with the flow, baby.
	You know, you can't control anything.
	You've never said any of those things.
	Water off a duck's back.
	That's me.
	Yeah, I think I... Really?
	I've never said anything.
	I've known you my whole life.
	Well, that's your opinion.
	Well, you should listen better.
	Listening works.
	I'm not always talking.
	What was the question?
	Oh, I remember the question.
	I am in a situation.
	Well, that's your characterization, first of all.
	So you don't state it as a question because you have a characterization in there that is a premise.
	I am working with the president cooperatively.
	It's very important that the federal government and state government work together during this time.
	I have to do my best job for the people of this state.
	You cannot say, look, I've been the governor in this country, has been the most critical of the president up until now.
	And by the way, there's no governor that he's been more critical of than me.
	So nobody's going to say I've gone too soft on the president.
	We're working together to help the state.
	That's what's important now.
	No politics, no personality, no ego.
	No ego.
	It's not about you.
	It's not about me.
	It's about we and getting through this.
	And that's my singular focus.
	There'll be a day and a time for everything.
	But this is not the time and place.
	That whole bit was ego.
	The whole thing was one big ego maniac thing.
	Narcissistic complex, people.
	Yeah.
	So now he goes into the second part.
	This is actually longer than what I have, but he goes in and grills him about becoming the vice presidential choice, which is not going to happen because Biden has already said, I don't know why the governor didn't throw this back in his face, but Biden has already said he's picking a woman.
	And he's made it very clear, and in his most recent talks, he said he's going to pick from a group of 10 people.
	I hope.
	Unless Andrew Cuomo is a woman, which would have been a funny line, he's not picking it, but here we go again.
	Gabish.
	Yes, Gabish.
	Capisco.
	Bernie Sanders is out.
	The word is that this increases the chances with Senator Sanders out that you may get it in the race for president.
	Is that true?
	Is that the word?
	Well, then it must be true.
	That's the word on the street.
	Oh, the word on the street?
	Yes, I'm sorry.
	I didn't hear an answer.
	Was it responsive?
	You're not responsive.
	I'm just saying, if that's the word, who might argue with the word, right?
	This is horrible, John.
	These guys are lame.
	This is like punching Judy drunk.
	The senator leaving the race has changed your thinking.
	Is that what you're saying, Governor?
	Has the senators leaving the race changed my thinking?
	In what way?
	Are you now giving different consideration of running for president?
	No.
	So you are still not thinking.
	But why?
	It's definitely a good question.
	I'm a thinking being.
	I'm thinking about a lot of things.
	I bet.
	Yeah.
	Are you not thinking about running for president because now there's more political momentum around the idea of you accepting a vice presidential bid from Joe Biden?
	Is that something that you're considering?
	First of all, I'm glad to see you're feeling better.
	I can tell.
	Oh, man.
	Does it get better?
	Yeah, it's almost done.
	You're feeling better because your animation and...
	Yeah, I know.
	Answer whenever you like.
	Joe Biden is a personal friend of mine.
	I've worked with him.
	He's been a great friend to this state.
	I support him.
	I have for years, and he's going to be, I believe, an excellent Democratic candidate and a leader.
	Second, I have said repeatedly...
	My plans, when I said I wanted to run for governor, I said to the people of my state, I will serve as your governor.
	People ask me, well, will you run for president?
	I said no.
	I'm not that guy, Chris.
	I'm not that politician who says, yeah, it's all about me and the next step on the ladder.
	Even if your party is jumping up and down, it's time at a digital convention.
	I'm going to be true to my word.
	They can jump up and down.
	Yeah, LoveGov says, no way.
	I gave my word, and my word is good.
	I'm not your typical guy.
	Don't laugh.
	You're going to pay, Chris.
	One day you're going to be better.
	I just figured it out.
	Of course, it's very important to Chris that his brother continue his career in the forefront, because Chris is obviously hanging on to his big brother's coattails.
	Would Chris Cuomo be on CNN if he wasn't?
	Brother of and son of?
	No!
	He's unimpressive.
	Well, he's getting worse.
	And this display of stupidity.
	This, I think, is the third or fourth time they've done this.
	This is the most recent.
	It's just really, it's like a real head shaker.
	He won't do a serious interview.
	He just keeps making snide comments.
	And he tries to humiliate him.
	And he brought this old photo up.
	Andrew almost walked off.
	When you brought the photos.
	You should.
	It's stupid.
	It's stupid.
	I don't know what's wrong.
	In fact, I think we should...
	We might have to ban any Cuomo clips.
	Nah, come on.
	This is good stuff.
	It's not that good.
	I will say there was a great piece in Elle magazine this weekend.
	An interview with Stacey Abrams.
	Yeah, there she is, ladies and gentlemen.
	Here's the headline.
	Stacey Abrams on voting rights, COVID-19, and being vice president.
	Quote, I would be an excellent running mate.
	Interview done by Melissa Harris Perry, if you can remember her.
	Do you remember her?
	She's the phony who was on MSNBC on Saturday morning, and she got kicked out for bad tweets or something.
	The political operative.
	Exactly.
	Stacey Abrams does not give the expected answer when I ask if she would accept an offer from former Vice President Joe Biden to serve as his 2020 running mate.
	Yes, I would be honored, Abrams says.
	I would be an excellent running mate.
	I have the capacity to attract voters by motivating typically ignored communities.
	I have a strong history of executive and management experience in the private, public, and non-profit sectors.
	I've spent 25 years in independent study of foreign policy.
	Council on Foreign Relations.
	I am ready to help advance an agenda of restoring America's place in the world.
	If I am selected, I am prepared and excited to serve.
	Well, that's clear.
	Your next president there, ladies and gentlemen.
	Wow, he's talking about an egomaniac.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she has no problem saying.
	It's an interesting interview.
	So, I had the...
	I've listened to the three Biden podcasts.
	I couldn't really get a lot of clips.
	Yeah.
	From the last one, but I do have a couple.
	I have some things.
	I have a few to play.
	How's Joe Sound doing these days?
	Well, here is the weird Biden podcast moment.
	This is the weird cuts they did.
	I don't know why they can't do a better job of this.
	I don't think we can sort of toss out our democracy and our democratic process just to deal with the crisis.
	I think we have to do both because one impacts the other.
	Oh, that's something else.
	I'm sorry.
	It was weird no matter what.
	That was him saying...
	Okay, we have to play that one again.
	This is a...
	I want you to listen to what he says and then tell me what he said.
	Ready?
	Okay.
	What am I playing?
	That's the same one.
	The same clip.
	Okay, here we go.
	I'm going to listen and tell you what he said.
	Okay, three, two, one, go.
	I don't think we can sort of toss out our democracy and our democratic process, and just to deal with the crisis, I think we have to do both, because one impacts the other.
	Okay, I know what he's talking about.
	I do.
	He's talking about shutting down or opening up the country.
	Is he not?
	No, what he said literally was, we can't just throw out everything that entails how our democracy works and then deal with the coronavirus.
	We have to do both.
	So in other words, we have to destroy our democracy.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And deal with the coronavirus.
	Now, you can play it a third time if you want to hear that.
	I'm going to play it a third time just because I enjoyed the hum so much on his podcast.
	I don't think we can sort of toss out our democracy and our democratic process.
	And just to deal with the crisis, I think we have to do both because one impacts the other.
	Whatever, Joe.
	Don't worry, Stacey is ready to serve.
	Now, here he is.
	He's got this guy on his third podcast.
	And this is a short, another eight-second clip, shorty.
	This is him trying to ask a question.
	I'm not going to go play the whole thing where he actually gets it out, but you have to endure this particular sort of thing every time.
	The, uh, look, um, uh, uh, with, uh, you know, uh, uh, with, uh, the fact is that, uh.
	Bull crap.
	You edited that.
	You edited that.
	That went out on his podcast, which they edit, unedited like that.
	Yes.
	Eight seconds of him going...
	The fact is that...
	I'll take the longer clip for you and put it on the next show if you want me to.
	No, that's okay, thanks.
	I'd like to take...
	I want to take a quick trip around a couple of countries.
	Well, before we do...
	I do have one ISO from the Cuomo thing that I think is a possibility for the end of show.
	Okay.
	This is your opinion.
	Your opinion.
	Well, that's your opinion.
	I like it.
	Let me see if I had anything.
	I had a feel that I'd not have a...
	I thought I had an end of show.
	Let me see.
	No.
	No, that's good.
	We can use that.
	I like it.
	I like it a lot, actually.
	It's your opinion.
	Well, that's your opinion.
	Although, no, wait.
	Here's what I had.
	I had something under jingles.
	Yes, I had this one.
	From the same two jamokes, actually.
	I don't like what I do.
	I think that was pretty good.
	Okay.
	I don't think it's worth my time.
	Which, I think, I don't like what I do is probably better.
	And that's Cuomo bitching about his own show.
	I don't like what I do.
	Okay, good.
	There we go.
	No, actually, I want to talk about the models quickly because I promised that about the data and When this is all said and done, hopefully there will be some kind of review.
	I'm sure it will be a part of an impeachment against the president for violating the Hatch Act and for not properly using the Defense Production Act.
	So there's going to be all kinds of research and committees and subpoenas and we're going to look everywhere and find the culprit where the orange man did bad.
	We're going to find it.
	And no one will look at these damn models, which have been inaccurate from the get-go, have been decreased from over 2 million deaths in the United States down to 61, and I have a feeling it may even go lower today with the briefing.
	These are based on computer models with assumptive input.
	Inputs which I would actually assert are a lot more knowledgeable than climate model inputs.
	At least you have some things to work with.
	But this is exponential stuff.
	So if you make a mistake...
	That's why you wind up with a factor 20 of the reality, and that's something that we will have to remember when this eventually comes back to climate change models, because it will.
	Here's Fauci, and I'm happy he said this so we can use this clip forevermore.
	It'll be good in the future.
	I have no problem with people who are critical of modeling because modeling is inherently an imperfect science.
	So I don't really have any quibbling with that.
	And you just got to make sure as you collect real data, you rely more on the data than you do on a model.
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, all of that makes a lot of sense.
	But I think one of the problems is that those models were what were used to shut down the United States economy.
	The fear that those numbers, when we looked at 100,000 to 240,000 people, and that was, I should point out, including mitigation and social distancing.
	That was with that factored in.
	So that number has dropped by 33%.
	So I guess, you know, what kind of model is so far off that it leads us to policymaking decisions that now are having such dire consequences?
	Yeah, well first I think it's important to point out that it isn't the model or the result of the model.
	That really led to the decision to have such strong mitigation programs such as physical separation.
	You don't even have to look at any model.
	Just take a look at what happened in China.
	Take a look at what happened in Northern Italy, how the hospitals were completely overrun and the draconian methods that had to be taken in China to turn down their outbreak.
	So, I mean, if I never saw a result of a model, that alone Would clearly indicate that something rather significant needed to be done to prevent the spread.
	So, I mean, again, getting back to models.
	And I never argue with anybody that has a problem with a model.
	I inherently have problems with models.
	Yeah, but he's full of crap.
	His commentary about China and Italy was a false premise.
	He said, look what they...
	Look what they did in China.
	What if they didn't do that in China?
	We don't know what the results would have been.
	He's full of crap, and he literally took the 2 million death model with Birx to the president.
	It's well documented.
	He said it.
	She said it.
	The president admits it.
	And that was the basis for the mitigation, which, i.e., our shutdown, based upon the hockey stick.
	And now he's, oh, well, you're a model, but based upon...
	And let's talk about that data for a second.
	Let's talk about the data from Italy.
	I don't know.
	Let's talk about the data from China.
	What we have reports is that maybe only 12% of the reported deaths were COVID. Hospital systems get overwhelmed on a regular basis seasonally with the flu.
	We have report after report from 2018.
	Flu season.
	Hospitals overloaded.
	No beds.
	Not possible.
	It's not the exact same thing, but I'm just saying what he's trying to posit here is bull crap.
	And let's talk about that data.
	I know.
	I do that on purpose.
	And I'm allowed to say it at least once a show.
	Here is a physician from Montana.
	Her name is Dr.
	Ann Bukasik.
	And she did a 10-minute talk, I took a minute and a half, of her talking about, and this is in a small setting, but with people who are interested about the codifying of these deaths and the death certificates, she's going to explain what the CDC guidelines are.
	This will show you how the data is not good going in.
	We need to understand how the CDC and National Vital Statistics System are instructing physicians to fill out death certificates related to COVID-19.
	Brace yourselves, and please pay attention, and let what I'm about to tell you sink in.
	The assumption of COVID-19 death can be made even without testing.
	Based on assumption alone, the death can be reported to the public as another COVID-19 casualty.
	The March 24th, 2020 National Vital Statistics System Memo states, and I quote, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not. the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause End of quote.
	The CDC report of cases in the U.S. memo from yesterday states the death numbers are preliminary, quote, and have not been confirmed.
	So, quote, The results are preliminary and have not been confirmed.
	End of quote.
	It's from the CDC website.
	Here's a quote even more laden with meaning.
	Stephen Schwartz, National Director of the Division of Vital Statistics, says in answer to the question as stated in the organization's COVID-19 alert, quote,"...should COVID-19 be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?" Check out his answer,
	and I quote from this memo, of which I have a copy, quote, COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.
	Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.
	End of quote.
	Sorry, my headphones just became disconnected.
	That was just a small part of...
	I think it was 10 minutes where she talks about all these different codifying margins of error.
	So the data is just no good.
	The models are no good.
	People are speculating it's 12 times worse.
	It's 12 times less.
	Well, how about this?
	When it comes to computer models and predicting our life and predicting the danger to our life moving forward, and we'll get to more of the bottom of this coronavirus, but just looking at the models, looking at the data.
	We have to be a lot more explicit about the data, and it has to be published in the same way that climate change data is published.
	And I love, climate change data is from NASA, you can download the data itself, you can put it in your own, you know, you can argue over it.
	But for sure, I am now convinced that when it comes to climate change, based on the knowledge we have learned as a globe with the coronavirus model inaccuracies, we can safely submit that yes, climate change is real, and it may be man-made.
	And it will kill us.
	But we need to take the model's inaccuracy into account, and I think we'll be good until 2,130.
	Just let's take that 10-time inaccuracy that you put in the coronavirus model.
	So we have another 100 years until we're dead.
	Plenty of time to figure it out before then.
	Greta.
	And I'm going to keep bringing this up every single time.
	Because it will be relentless.
	Yeah, this is ridiculous.
	It's getting more ridiculous by the minute.
	I don't know.
	Here's a couple of things that are going on around here, or on the West Coast.
	I've got this.
	Here's a clip.
	This is the No More Concerts in LA clip on PBS. The mayor of Los Angeles said late today that the city is not likely to allow sporting events, concerts, and other large events until next year.
	Next year?
	This is for everyone.
	And you can assume that what they do there is going to be the whole country.
	There's not going to be another basketball, baseball, football.
	No way.
	No way.
	Football.
	Forget it.
	No one's going to go to these games.
	No way.
	And in California, we're taking kind of a different approach.
	We don't really care that much about what's really happening in the statewide.
	So we're just going to give money away to illegal aliens.
	And this is Cal giving free money.
	This is our governor, Governor Newsom.
	California will make pandemic relief payments of $500 apiece to 150,000 migrants who are living in the state without documentation.
	Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom said today that they do essential work and pay millions of dollars in taxes.
	Almost 40 percent of the money will come from private contributions.
	The migrants are not eligible for federal payments.
	So we're giving the migrants a bunch of money.
	They're paying a million in taxes, but they're talking about sales tax and gasoline tax.
	No, this is not true.
	Illegals in the United States, they can get a number from the IRS. It's not a social security number, but it is a number you can pay taxes to, and a lot of them do it.
	So it's not just sales tax.
	I'm sure there's a few maniacs that do it, but most of these are cash payments under the table, and they're not paying money on that.
	But it's fine.
	They do a lot of gardening around here, and it's a big deal.
	Yeah.
	We also had, by the way, Warren's endorsed Biden finally, and we have a clip about that.
	Yeah, that was rather interesting.
	Here we go.
	And in the Democratic presidential campaign, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden.
	She was the last of his major rivals to do so.
	Warren said that Biden will restore America's faith in good, effective government.
	They look so dumb when they do that.
	That's stupid.
	And then Maddow comes on and she gets Warren on the horn and gets her to ask if she'll be the vice president.
	There was a funny moment.
	I got a clip.
	That was a cue to a clip.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Say it again.
	Give me the Q&A. Maddow.
	Ask Warren about VP. If he asked you to be his running mate, would you say yes?
	Yes.
	Stop with the editing, Dvorak.
	I don't know what's real or not anymore.
	She did not do three breathy yeses in a row.
	It was a funny moment in the Scandinavian parliament.
	Pierre Poiliver, I think is his name, He is a conservative, and he wanted to know if there was any...
	First of all, is there any truth to the intelligence reports that we discussed earlier that the U.S. apparently had long ago and Trump should have known and stopped the coronavirus in time?
	And had they seen that?
	Had the Prime Minister, Trudeau, had he seen these reports?
	And it was just...
	This was a seven-minute ordeal.
	You'll get the idea pretty quickly.
	A yes or no question that...
	Military intelligence warned of the deadly coronavirus in a briefing to the government in early January.
	Yes or no?
	Did the Prime Minister, his office, or any member of the Cabinet see these briefings?
	Yes or no?
	The Honourable Deputy Prime Minister.
	Mr.
	Speaker, Canada as a member of the Five Eyes, as a member of NATO, as a member of NORAD, a close intelligence partner with all of those allies, very much including the United States, is privy to a great deal of intelligence.
	Of course, the global pandemic is an issue which has concerned our intelligence agencies and those of our partners, so we have been in close communication with them.
	Well, Member for Carlton.
	Did any member of the Cabinet see that intelligence from our military, yes or no?
	The Honourable Deputy Prime Minister.
	As I have said, Mr.
	Speaker, our intelligence sharing is very important.
	Our intelligence sharing with our allies during this global pandemic, which poses particularly security challenges, has been, I would say, very energetic, and we continue to work with them.
	The honorable member for Carlton.
	The question was and is, did any member of the cabinet see that military intelligence?
	Yes or no?
	So this went on for 10 minutes, and of course, it gets humorous because she just answers the same question the same way with different words each time.
	But the CBC, I would say the BBC of the Canada Navy-A, They handled it this way.
	way now this is shot from someone's tv you know uh iphone on their tv at home so uh sorry for the sound quality but you'll get the idea thank you a yes or no question that military intelligence warned of the deadly coronavirus in a briefing to the government in early january okay we are going to pull away now from uh this question and answer session between a limited number of mpcs Oh, God forbid we show that.
	No, no, no.
	Pull away the minute they ask an uncomfortable question about the Prime Minister.
	Weak, CBC. Very, very weak.
	Super weak.
	The United Kingdom is moving along, although they might be due for an extension of their lockdown, which might be announced today.
	They are a little bit ahead when it comes to, and this will probably be the focus of our Sunday show after we know how we're going to get back to work, here in the United States at least.
	They're getting ready for the tracking!
	Today I wanted to outline the next step, a new NHS app for contact tracing.
	If you become unwell with the symptoms of coronavirus, you can securely tell this new NHS app.
	And the app will then send an alert anonymously to other app users that you've been in significant contact with over the past few days, even before you had symptoms, so that they know and can act accordingly.
	All data will be handled according to the highest ethical and security standards, and would only be used for NHS care and research, and we won't hold it any longer than it's needed.
	And as part of our commitment to transparency, we'll be publishing the source code, too.
	We're already testing this app, and as we do this, we're working closely with the world's leading tech companies and renowned experts in clinical safety and digital ethics so that we can get this right.
	This is going to be very fun.
	Oh, brother.
	This is asking for nothing but trouble.
	Well, we're going to get the same thing here, although Trump is going to push against it.
	He doesn't like it.
	And I have a feeling that what Google and Apple are doing, their collaboration, is probably a good preemptive move to have a lot of that type of functionality because they're looking at the Bluetooth distance tracking.
	I think you'd prefer to have the operating system itself do that rather than have a bunch of nutballs with apps do it.
	But this is definitely the time to switch to a flip phone because none of this is going to make your information and your data about mainly who you are, where you are, and what you have or don't have is not going to make that any safer.
	It's not going to be safe.
	It's not going to be any safer.
	Nobody's going to switch to a flip phone.
	People are going to, you've said this before, they're going to embrace, oh, this is great.
	This is great.
	It's a stalker's delight.
	We had afternoon delight, now we've got stalker's delight.
	This is great, I know.
	But just like I said earlier, everyone's ready for the vaccine.
	Just let me go.
	Stick it in.
	I'm sure the joke has been made, but...
	I mean, is Windows really that impressive?
	Is that the same guy we want in charge of our vaccines?
	You know, what if we get Vista vaccine?
	He's already done that if you read the Kennedy notice.
	He's right.
	He's pulled a stunt and he's hurt people all over the world with his vaccines.
	The polio one was a complete disaster.
	It's okay because Tuesday night we'll upgrade it.
	We'll fix you.
	We'll fix your vaccine Tuesday night.
	It's going to be good.
	John, what do you say?
	Shall we thank some more people for this fab episode?
	One, two, three, four?
	I think we have to, yes.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	And we do have a few people to thank, starting with, we already gave Eric Arjo his upgrade, but Jason Battinger in Florence, Kentucky, $170.
	He says it's 10% of his stimulus.
	Nice.
	Thank you.
	Martin Walter, 12921, Sir Ducifer, Knight of the Four Strings, Funk for Kids and Time Travel.
	And he went back in time to donate 1, 2, 3, 4, 9.
	And there was some reason for that.
	I can't remember what that was.
	Mile High Night in Parker, Colorado, 12345.
	And these following people are all 12345 donors, which is a celebration of the number 1234, the angel number, and all the rest of it.
	The Mile High Knights.
	I'm not just going to name them.
	Mile High Knights, Sir Silver Dude of the Silver Dolphins.
	Elaine McLaughlin, Olympia, Washington.
	Christopher Remer in Missoula, Montana.
	Remer, I think.
	Sir Joe.
	Dame J of the Angry Clouds.
	Clayton Peterson in Angel Fire, New Mexico.
	Daniel Langman in Victoria, B.C. Dame G Money.
	One, two, three, four, five, and parts unknown.
	Sir Paul Love in Richmond, Virginia.
	Jacob Hernandez in Kennewick, Washington.
	Rhett Gardner in San Diego, California.
	Anonymous.
	Dame Meowdison.
	Meowdison, I think.
	In Orlando, Florida.
	Dame Jamie of the Highway.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Sir Chuck Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois.
	Scott Dexter in Rockford, Michigan.
	Sir Oh, I'm sorry.
	That Chris Wilson needed to do dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	I just caught it.
	Good work.
	Sir Crash EMT in Holly Springs, North Carolina.
	Michael Olson, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, parts unknown.
	Alex Van Abel in Bronx, New York.
	Todd Webster in Wellsboro, Pennsylvania.
	William Hale II in Clarksville, Tennessee.
	Ivan H.B. You made it.
	You made it.
	He was worried about getting on this day.
	Kendra Hartsell in Riverside.
	Giovanni Gomez in Indianapolis.
	Sir Eric is naked.
	In South Ogden, Utah.
	Brian Brown Gobler in Los Angeles.
	You can reimagine, what's your name, Brian?
	Brian what?
	Brown Gobler?
	I'm hoping it's Gobler.
	Sir Ruard of Markness in Houghton.
	Sir, Netherlands, Sir Stephen Schneider of Coffee Roasting and Tobacco Pipes in Round Lake, Illinois.
	Andrew Lemmesini, Sir Andrew, and Sir Patrick Kobold, Duke of the South.
	He's in Murfreesboro.
	Christina Thomas in Drums, Pennsylvania.
	Vicki Ferris in Carleton, Texas.
	Joe Thomas in Astoria, Oregon.
	Stephanie Sutton in Mesa, Arizona.
	Keep up the great work, she writes.
	Joe Thomas, by the way, I want to stop and read.
	She did send a note in where she was written with light, with gray ink on gray paper.
	But I do have to say this.
	My smoking hot husband, Doug, is a long-time listener and subscriber donor.
	He has been blessed abundantly with overtime work recently.
	This donation brings him closer to knighthood.
	We appreciate the windfall of health.
	We'd like to request health karma, and we'll put that at the end for you, for daughter-in-law, Haven, as she is being treated for severe nausea.
	Also, jobs karma.
	We'll put all that at the end.
	Thank you.
	Stephanie Sutton comes up after that.
	And then Anonymous in Seattle, Washington.
	And that's the end of our list of well-wishers taking part in the promotion.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for contributing.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 0.
	Yes, and just adding that from those donations, Sir Paul Love, his 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 donation brings him up to Baronet.
	We'll change that in a moment.
	And Sir Patrick Coble, Duke of the South, put his daughter Catherine on the list for her seventh birthday.
	So we'll have that there as well.
	Onward with Sir Roel S.K. from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, the Paris of North America.
	$87.44.
	Jeremy Gray, $86.33.
	Brandon Foster, $75.
	Michael Johnson, $72.
	Rock Falls, Wisconsin.
	Ronald Cedario in Riverview, Florida, 6969, along with Jonathan Weeks in Atoka, Tennessee, 6969.
	Sir, acid of the Scandinavian Woods, Cortese, Ontario.
	Anonymous in Salem, Indiana, 6634.
	Sir, acid was 6836.
	Sir, laugh a lot and tell stories.
	Share a secret in Metairie, Louisiana, 6179.
	Mark Da Silva, 6120.
	Marjorie Lewis, Redlands, California, 60.
	Sir, not appearing on this podcast in Richland, Washington, 5678, along with Devin Crider, 5678 in Fort Collins, Colorado.
	Daniel Clooney in Erie, Pennsylvania.
	Sir Robert of the Sous Vide in Holland, Pennsylvania, double nickels on the dime.
	Scott Waldherr, double nickels on the dime in Madison, Wisconsin.
	Chris Pauly in Verona, Wisconsin.
	Ashley Eisner, Chris Pauly, 54-17.
	Ashley Eisner is 54-16.
	Anonymous, 53.
	Colby Jolie in Sadequin, Utah.
	Santa Quinn.
	Santa Quinn, Utah.
	51-23.
	And the following people are $50 donors.
	Name and location if we have it.
	Starting with the great Baroness Patricia Worthington at the top from Miami, Florida.
	Michael Burlett in Odessa, Florida.
	Dame Shannon Adkins in Warren, Michigan.
	Baron John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	Ryan Ragle in Encino, California.
	Mansoor Rod, parts unknown.
	Christopher Mueller in Cedar Park, Texas.
	Femke von Bremelen in Wurberg, 50.
	Sir Chris Slowinski, Viscount.
	Sir Maniac of Colorado, Colin Baker in Overland Park, Kansas.
	Sir Brandon Savoy, the Viscount in Port Orchard, Washington.
	Kyle and last but not least, Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia.
	I want to thank all these people for making this show possible.
	Yes, a quick couple of additions here.
	Michael Johnson, who you heard, has a belated birthday wish for his son, Brian, who was celebrating the 12th in Madison, Wisconsin.
	He's a faithful listener, and thank you to him for not calling me a douchebag.
	Please de-douche me.
	De-douche me, de-douche me, de-douche me.
	You've been de-douche.
	Jonathan Weeks is wishing his wife Katie a belated happy birthday.
	She was on the 15th.
	Our new human resource, Alena, I think they say that right, is entering month two of her probationary period, and we have so far decided to keep her on.
	Very good.
	Thank you for the sanity.
	That was a good one.
	Pearl Alvarado says, Hi, my name's Pearl.
	I'm a new listener.
	Was hit in the mouth by my boyfriend.
	Ha!
	Wanted to wish my boyfriend Sean Espo a very happy birthday.
	Birthday is on the 16th.
	That's today.
	Thank you.
	I really appreciate and enjoy your podcast.
	Thank you, Pearl.
	And Chris Pauley from Verona, Wisconsin.
	His birthday is tomorrow.
	His 44th.
	He'll be on that list.
	And he becomes a knight.
	He added up to knighthood at the end of last year.
	And he will be Sir CP, Knight of the Twin Toddlers.
	And Ashley Eisner Beyer from Louisville.
	It's her birthday.
	She'll be 36.
	She's on her way to Damehood.
	Again, thank you all of these producers.
	It's quite a list, but this was quite the number.
	You guys love it!
	Thanks to all of those who came in under $50.
	Obviously, for brevity's sake, we can't mention the 12.34 names, but thank you all so much.
	Everyone under 50 is kept anonymous here on the show.
	Woo!
	I'm a little hoarse from all of that, and you did most of the reading.
	Isn't that interesting?
	We will do it all again on Sunday.
	Please make sure you join us at dvorak.org slash NA for the people who need it.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Now let's break them all down.
	Belated, Sir Trev Scott, I'm sorry, belated birthdays, Mike Johnson to his son Brian, April 12th, Matthew Shock, A.J. Bowen, happy birthday, celebrated yesterday, and Jonathan Weeks, as we just heard, says happy birthday to his wife Katie, also celebrating yesterday, Kyle Brown, happy birthday to his old boss and friend, Jambo Joe!
	Actually, that's Kylie Brown, I believe.
	Jambo Joe turns 39 today.
	Happy birthday, Jambo Joe.
	Big fan of the products.
	No last name Bruce is celebrating.
	Sir Patrick Coble, happy birthday to his daughter Catherine.
	She turns 7.
	Pearl Alvarado, her boyfriend, Sean Espo, today.
	Ashley Eisner-Beyer, 36 today.
	Chris Pauly, 44 tomorrow.
	Matthew Dietl's wife, happy birthday.
	Happy birthday to her brother, Kevin Adam.
	Celebrating tomorrow.
	And Lee North is way ahead of the game and expects to celebrate on April 23rd.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Yes, title changes today, sir.
	Sir Trev Scott becomes Earl at Large.
	Sir Goji Hung, Baron of St.
	Augustine, Florida.
	And Sir Paul Love, as you heard earlier, becomes a baronet today.
	All thanks to their upgraded contributions and donations to the best show in the universe, best podcast in the universe.
	And we appreciate that very much.
	Thank you all for your Supported the show.
	Then we have quite a number of knightings and damings to do.
	Wow.
	Let me see.
	We have...
	Well, Jambo Joe becomes a knight today.
	How about that?
	I think this was his friend or former co-worker, and they upped up...
	They rounded out his knighthood.
	Okay.
	This is great.
	So I'll just say it up front.
	Jambo Joe, we need you.
	We need Mark Worst, his smoking hot girlfriend.
	Crystal, we need Brian Lowe.
	We need Bruce, Robert Taylor, Chris Pauly, Matthew Minicle, and Thomas Lease.
	If you could just line up over there, please.
	I'll get this blade here.
	And John is...
	And a huge one.
	I love it when you do that.
	Alright, gentlemen and Dane, thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
	You all about to join us here at the round table, the illustrious group of knights and dames, and I'm very proud to pronounce the case.
	Sir Jambo Joe, Knight of Reflection, Dame of the Crystal Core, Sir B-Low, Sir Rotorhead, Sir Bebop Knight of the Frozen Tundra, Sir C.P. Knight of the Twin Toddlers, Sir Matthew of the Falls, and Sir Tom of the Country of Yorkshire.
	Gentlemen and dame, for you, we've got...
	Hookers and Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay, Deep Allen IPA, and a fat prime rib with raw horseradish, heartlets and haldo, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, ginger ale and gerbils, and of course...
	Mutton and mead.
	And you can get the mutton and the mead right here at the table.
	But if you go to noagendanation.com slash rings, we'll make sure that you get your knight ring or your dame ring and your ceiling wax and your official certificate.
	And thank you again for being producers and not just producers, the kind that elevate to royalty status here.
	Knights and dames of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. No meetups.
	Oh, wait.
	Wait.
	No meetups, but we have, I think, Baron Scott of the Armory.
	He's looking to set up a local 512 Zoom meetup here in Austin.
	But forget that.
	That'll be posted on noagendameetups.com.
	He gave us, to eat in these trying times, a venison tenderloin.
	And some dressing for steak salad that he made.
	John, I gotta tell you.
	Venice and tenderloin?
	Off the hook.
	Yeah, he could pack one of those up in some ice, dry ice, and ship one out here.
	Yeah, so he hunts it himself.
	He hunts, dresses, the whole thing.
	Most hunters have too much meat to eat.
	Yeah, well, this was a good one.
	Very, very tasty.
	So, yeah, that's it for noagendameetups.com.
	Scott did that, did that, did that.
	I don't think I have a super lot of other stuff that we need to talk about.
	Other than sad news, Amazon's having an interesting time.
	Amazon, Amazon.com, they're having an interesting time.
	They're dealing with their deliveries, with problems with people in the warehouse or not.
	They're trying to hire more people.
	A lot of people depend on their affiliate program.
	Bloggers, podcasters, I think on some...
	Oh, Amazon's been screwing the affiliate program.
	Well, so they just announced they're lowering payouts to as low as 1%.
	Yeah, what's the point?
	They're dropping 4% or 5% on their affiliate payouts per product.
	You know what that is?
	I know exactly what happened.
	Thanks for getting us started.
	That you did a great job.
	Really appreciate it.
	Now we have our own marketing and advertising, and we have our own system, which we rip off our own clients with, forcing them to advertise.
	We really don't need the affiliates anymore.
	Yeah, we don't need your help.
	That's it.
	Thanks for playing.
	Thanks for playing, and here's your 1% shut up.
	That's exactly what happened.
	For that alone, they should be boycotting.
	What would you expect?
	Yeah.
	For that alone, they should be boycotting.
	Well, that won't happen, at least for a while.
	I do have a note I want to read from Tim.
	Tim D. This is the guy who talked about the kowtowing.
	And this has got spoiler alerts about that idiotic Star Trek Picard series.
	I just found this.
	I was actually irked by this.
	I stopped watching it after the first episode.
	I think I watched part of the episode, too.
	I couldn't take it.
	It's just slow-moving, bad acting.
	It's a dumb story.
	I recently watched the Star Trek Picard series, he writes, and have a couple of observations.
	Spoiler alert.
	Predictive programming ahead in the season finale, in my opinion, is what should have been the series finale, probably.
	Picard has his brain transferred into a new body.
	The singularity is nigh.
	More importantly, the real hero of the Star Trek Next Generation universe, William Riker, shows up to save the day in the Federation's flagship.
	You know, the flagship of the Federation, which everyone knows is the USS Enterprise.
	Oh no, my friends.
	The flagship is now the USS Zing Hei.
	A new ship named after that famous Chinese explorer, Zing He.
	So this tells me, and he goes on, he says, also notice the media stopped using the phrase kowtow.
	Right.
	He says that, or he points this out, and it says to me that Paramount or somebody's getting so much Chinese money, To do these programs that is now showing up in very subtle ways or not so subtle ways if you're paying attention because he's right.
	It should be the enterprise.
	Anyway, Zing He, I had a little bit about him because he's so important to American history.
	And I have issues with other histories of other countries that really don't affect this country in any way.
	But Zing He, Chinese from 1371 to 1433...
	Was a Chinese mariner, explorer, diplomat, fleet admiral, and court eunuch.
	So the guy had his nuts cut off.
	During China's early Ming dynasty, he was originally born as Mahi in a Muslim family, and later adopted the surname Zhang, conferred by the Emperor Yongle.
	So the guy was a eunuch, a vasectomy victim.
	And he, I guess, was a big shot in the 1300s.
	And now the American series, Star Trek, done by Gene Roddenberry originally and based on cowboy stories, is now kowtowing to the Chinese and adding a stupid ship name that's got nothing to do with anything.
	Just a minor complaint.
	Chinese asshole!
	I'm done if you are.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I'm done grousing.
	We're going to have tons of stuff for Sunday.
	It's not going to stop.
	No, more grousing.
	Yeah, well I can't wait to find out how we're going to get back to work.
	It's, of course, on a show day.
	End of show.
	Oh, right after this on NoAgendaStream.com, Random Thoughts number 80.
	Now I have a whole bunch of great end of show clips.
	They're going to roll on Sunday, so don't be disappointed if you send in your mix because we have one beautiful full-length song, an original by Melissa Tallon, which I thought would be great to put this on the 1234 show.
	It's called My No Agenda, and it's nice.
	It's nice!
	It's nice to listen to.
	Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas.
	It is FEMA Region No.
	6 if you're looking for us in the governmental maps.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where you gotta love the traffic, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Please remember to support us at dvorak.org slash NA. View the show notes at nashownotes.com.
	Until Sunday, adios mofos!
	and such.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	with us on here In Austin there's a boy who loved his radio so dear.
	No one knows what brought them together and so splendor.
	Now I hear them through the night.
	I know our gender.
	And every time we speak, I can hardly sleep.
	John and Adam, may you reign many more years yet.
	The world is gonna sing, but when you call my name, everything's
	okay again It's no agenda I
	can hardly sleep.
	John and Adam, may you reign for many more years yet.
	They said it wouldn't last, but it's the best podcast.
	I can go weak without my no argent.
	How could I survive without my normal agenda?
	Oh, yeah. yeah.
	Adios, mofo.

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