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1207: Imminent Threat
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Delta, Delta, Delta.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, January 12th, 2020.
This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1207.
This is no agenda.
Printing up fresh protest signs and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas.
Capital of the Drone Star State in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern South...
I'm John C. Dubois.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
In the morning!
Okay, you're in a mood today.
I can already tell.
What?
I didn't get a proper hit it.
I got a...
And then, what kind of opening was that?
It was my opening!
It was spectacular!
Okie dokie.
Well, there are some ideas for the opening.
I could come up with nothing.
Sorry.
Problem in media land.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
Big problem.
Really?
Yeah.
We're no longer seeing impeachment news as the most important item discussed.
It's gone off the radar.
Well, I've been...
They will be, after the debates, which are on Tuesday...
Yeah.
They will do a pivot...
Mmm, I'm not so sure, man.
We've got a story that is so big, it's too hard to resist.
CNN has already switched.
It's now in hot rotation.
Alright, tell me about it.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm sure I will know in a minute.
Megxit.
Oh, no.
Yes, all day yesterday.
Wall to wall.
Perry and Megan.
Okay.
Wall to wall.
Wall to wall.
Now that you brought this up, I'm now irked at myself for not grabbing this clip of Michael Bloomberg going on and on about the thing.
He's being interviewed in a train, and they asked him this, they asked him that, and the only thing he was excited about or seemed to want to talk about was this.
The fact that Harry and Meghan are trying to extract themselves.
A lot of people just think Meghan has gaslighted Harry.
Well, there's a lot going on here.
First of all, the obsession with the royal family in the United Kingdom, for one.
And as you know, a lot of the press here in the United States just copy and paste the Daily Mail anyway.
I'm looking at you, Silicon Valley shit rags.
It's like, oh, this is a good story.
Clickbait.
Yeah, I'll write it a little differently.
No problem.
America is obsessed with...
We're obsessed with royalty and we're just all jitty about it.
And one after another of these royalty experts on CNN yesterday, just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
They love, love, love, love Meghan and Harry.
And it's obvious they got the Diana deal.
I'm sorry?
Oh, the Diana deal.
Yeah.
What's the Diana deal?
You're going to die.
That's the Diana deal.
You have screwed up.
Oh, the only thing Bang is going to get killed by the Kingsman?
No, I do.
No, I do.
Oh, you think she's going to get killed by the Kingsman.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I think it's all over.
Listen, she came in.
This is not a real royal.
He's the son of the Navy captain or whoever Diana had that affair with.
Whoever the redhead was.
It's kind of a giveaway.
Yeah, the redhead is a problem.
Yeah, so the queen said, alright, you know what, it's okay, bring in Meghan, and then, oh, she's brown, I'm shipping you off to Africa, which is, I'm telling you, racist they are over there.
So, yeah, you go do a tour of Africa.
That'll be good because, you know, you'll help reconnect the bonds with the British Empire and with the royal family because, you know, you're kind of brown.
So, you know, but then...
Harry, I think, caught on to what was really going on.
And this is precisely how it went down with Diana.
And she tried to extract herself.
She went on the world stage.
She did a lot of good.
And she wound up dead.
And there's this interview that I found with Prince Harry...
I'm fairly sure it's the real deal.
It could be a deep fake, but it was video, so I watched as close as I could.
It sounds like him.
I think it's him.
And what he's saying isn't all that extraordinary unless you think about the Diana deal.
You know, my mom clearly taught me a certain set of values of which I will always try and uphold, despite the role and the job that sometimes that entails, if you know what I mean.
But I think I will always protect my family.
And now I have a family to protect.
So everything that she went through and what happened to her is incredibly raw every single day.
And that's not me being paranoid.
That's just me not wanting a repeat of the past.
And if anybody else knew what I knew, Be it a father, be it a husband, be it anyone, you'd probably be doing exactly what I'm doing as well.
If anyone else knew what I knew, you'd probably do the same thing, is what he says.
Now, can we interpret that as the paparazzi will be the death of you?
I don't think they're quite at that level.
But certainly Meghan Markle has all of the same...
Personality traits?
With the press?
With Hollywood?
Yes.
I have a quick analysis.
If anyone knew what I knew, now knowing that he was born from Diana via some character that you mentioned earlier, he may know because he's not a lizard.
I think that's very possible.
Particularly, if you listen to this report...
Hey, how you doing?
If you listen to this report, they're hanging out with lizards.
Your reporting is that they're going to move to L.A. for the most part.
They're going to have a residence in Canada as well, but it looks like Meghan is going back to L.A. Yes, I mean, that's where she grew up.
That's where her mother is.
She's an L.A. girl.
You know, that's where her friends are.
You know, and also, since marrying Harry, they've got more showbiz friends, like the Cloonies and Oprah.
You know, that's where they want to be.
That's where Meghan...
Doesn't she take a lot of advice from Oprah and the Cloonies?
Absolutely.
And, you know, we're hearing that they have had a lot of advice on this and encouragement on this to break out from the royal family shell.
Oh, the Cloonies, man.
The Cloonies did it.
There's proof.
...their own thing.
But I cannot underestimate...
What an earthquake this is in the UK as far as the break from protocol.
The Queen didn't know anything about it.
The royal family are furious.
Harry's father, Prince Charles, is furious.
It really is a huge scandal.
So they're not abdicating.
They're just kind of stepping back.
So really, they want the benefits, but they just don't want the full-time gig.
Exactly.
So they're giving up being senior royals, which means they keep the HRH title.
You know, she'll still be a princess.
He's still a prince.
But they don't have to do all the royal jobs.
What's that?
She's not a princess.
She's a duchess, isn't she?
Yeah.
Yeah, I am.
But she was refused princess-dom by the queen.
She's not a princess.
And that's what pissed her off, apparently.
It's a R-H title.
You know, she'll still be a princess.
He's still a prince.
But they don't have to do all the royal jobs that they're expected to do.
And the main thing is, they said they want to make their own money.
And this is what everybody's upset in England about, because they get...
I don't understand.
There's a very obvious path for them to make money.
I don't get it.
Why is this so hard for everybody to understand?
All they need to do is start a podcast.
Money in the bank.
At the moment, they get around four million pounds a year from the Queen and from Prince Charles to run their household and pay their staff.
And they'll still continue getting a lot of that money for quite a while, unless they do really want to work and stand on their own.
By the way, 5.2 million, I'm being told, 5.2 million U.S., that's a pretty good tidy sum of money.
How in the world do you protect these two when they're in Los Angeles?
I mean, if they want to come over to the Gallagher's house, are we going to have a big contingent of security officers around Los Angeles?
Absolutely, absolutely.
The thing is that they are guaranteed security for life from the British people.
And the British taxpayer pays for it, which is around a million dollars U.S. a year.
So that won't change.
Whatever they do, that will not change.
You said make their own money.
Does she go back to acting, do you think?
Well, I mean, there's been a lot of debate about that.
We think that she'll be doing more influencing.
I think she'll open her Instagram account again.
She'll be doing more paid appearances.
And maybe some acting, if it's deemed to be tasteful enough.
But they're certainly going to be earning money in different ways that they could not do in England.
So, I remain baffled by this being 2020 and people still having this obsession with these fake people with funky hats who have great houses in the middle of awesome places and they pay them because, you know, it's tradition.
We need to keep the tradition.
Yeah.
This is all Meggle's doing.
Terry's pussy whipped.
He's nothing.
Sad.
So sad.
That's what everybody thinks.
I'm pretty sure.
But the fact remains, and we'll see this coming week, I have a feeling that there's so much fatigue of seeing Skeletor Pelosi and everyone bitching and moaning and Moscow Mitch and all this crap.
Particularly on the cable news networks, this is a breath of fresh air.
Something I can get obsessed about.
During the MSNBC began as kind of a generalized Microsoft joint venture with NBC. Sure did.
I had worked there.
I helped them launch.
And they had...
No ratings.
They couldn't get jack ratings.
We had a show called The Sight that was on MSNBC. It was a text thing.
They couldn't get any ratings.
The thing was a dud And then Diana got killed.
Boom.
And they switched their coverage all to 24-7, Diana, Diana, Diana, Diana.
And then they said, we're getting numbers.
Hell with this other crap.
Exactly.
And I guarantee you CNN is seeing numbers.
They did this with MH17. A full year they stayed on that topic.
Top of the news, every hour, every panel was all about, oh, where'd this plane go?
Was it MH17? Was it 3-3?
The one that disappeared.
I don't remember the numbers.
The one that disappeared.
And it was an obsession for them.
And there were other things going on in the year.
I mean, we had a show, so something was happening.
And now they've grabbed onto this.
And if you've got a British accent, then you are in, like Flynn.
You've got money in the bank.
Just say you're a royalty watcher and you're good to go.
And they're all cute.
All the women who show up to talk about, you know, who are royalty watchers, the good-looking, easy to look at, I think it's a ratings bonanza, and it's going to be very hard for them to move away from it.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's slightly addicting.
It's like tasty candy.
Yeah, and what it is and why it is, it'll always baffle me, but it is a fact.
So that's going to be problematic.
And that, of course, will affect us, too.
Less clips.
Yeah, because we don't have any good clips from CNN making fools of themselves.
Yes.
And before we dive into the topics of the day...
Luckily, Democracy Now!
will never make that change.
Yeah.
So we had, there were a number of severe storms that came through southwest United States, also through Scandinavia.
In fact, I got texts from Sir Dusifer.
He said, worst hailstorm ever coming your way.
Park everything in the garage.
Or I think he said, park your best vehicle in the garage.
The storm came through.
It was short and violent, but there was no hail.
And, of course, I knew exactly what this was.
It also came from the southeast.
It's so obvious.
This is from our rain sticks.
Probably.
This is the blowback that we can always expect.
We don't like using them.
Well, but just a couple of reports.
Sir Andy from Terrigal Beach.
In the morning, Adam, it hadn't rained here for many months before the rain stick.
All the grass was totally brown.
We routinely had days over 110 Fahrenheit and were in constant fear of the fires.
After the rain stick, we had at least four days of proper rain, and the grass has started to grow.
I think this would be true also for Sir Chris in Merrickville and Sir Baz in Batteau Bay.
My father, who doesn't listen to the podcast, has no rain, and there are still many areas burning out of control.
Could it be we are only getting the rain stick effect in places where no agenda is being listened to?
I'm interested to know if there's a correlation between where the listeners are and where the rain fell.
Many thanks.
I believe so.
Oh, totally.
And I watched a movie, I don't know how old, I think it's relatively new.
It's not a great movie, it's called The Mandela Effect, and the movie centers around a father, or a couple, and their daughter dies, she drowns on the beach.
And he starts noticing the Mandela Effect, and the movie kind of uses...
I've long since forgotten that one.
The Mandela Effect gets its name from things in history that a large group of people are very sure were a certain way and turn out not to be true.
One is that the guy on the Monopoly box has a monocle.
He does not.
The Berenstain Bears, turns out it was Berenstain Bears.
Sinbad was never a genie in a movie, and it gets its name from Mandela that there's a belief that Nelson Mandela died while in prison.
And there's even video of George Bush saying he's dead while he was in prison, W. Bush.
So that's the Mandela effect.
And the thinking is, is this a glitch in the matrix?
You know, what is going on?
So they kind of use this Mandela effect to get into the, we live in a simulation.
And long story short, the dad, who's a game developer...
He figures out a way with a supercomputer, I know it's going off the rails, to set a mount point just before his daughter drowns and then reboots, basically overloads the entire simulation that's running the world and then it reboots right before he makes a decision that in the previous case his daughter died and now he makes a different decision.
And the thinking behind it is that the simulation throughout the world, whatever's driving it, whatever's powering it, is not powerful enough to keep everything running all at the same time.
So very much like a video game, until someone observes a certain area, it's just dormant, it's dead, it's not running, it's completely still.
And then when someone, or maybe it has to be more than one person, sees this area, then the sim comes back to life, and that's where these glitches sometimes, and I said it, glitches.
You said it, and you said it with meaning.
You said it sincerely.
I did.
You caught yourself, though.
Yeah, I did.
But you didn't catch yourself before you said it.
So just taking this as a premise, I think the karma and the rain sticks is a version of that.
It's a version of somehow we're cutting through the system and we're able to affect change on the simulation in certain areas or with certain individuals.
That's what I'm thinking.
That's what you're thinking.
You know, you agree kind of with...
With Scott Adams, he likes to throw in the simulation gag every so often.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's approaching it from an intellectual standpoint.
I'm talking about a movie.
I just watched a movie and it had some impact on me.
But we've had a lot of success with Jobs Karma.
I don't think the rain sticks have failed once.
Every single time we've been requested to shake the sticks, it happens.
And we always get the blowback with bad weather here in Austin.
I don't know if you had any, but I always get bad weather after the rain.
We had a lot in Washington State, that's for sure.
But going back to Scott Adams about you and him being in agreement, I got a little irked by this.
I have a clip from Scott Adams.
Okay.
And it has a little bit to do with his thesis, and it's bothersome that you and Scott Adams are in agreement on certain things.
This one is really the one that is the bad one.
It really is annoying, to say the least.
The clip is Matt Gaetz.
He's talking about Matt Gaetz being a perfect presidential candidate.
The following things.
Number one, Matt Gaetz is a strong contender, and I'll go so far as to say probable.
Presidential contender at some point in the future.
Probable.
Probable winner as well.
Because just based on his skill set, he has all the skills.
He has all the skills.
I don't think he's missing a single skill.
To be a GOP candidate, and I think he would clean the table on any Democrat that ran against him.
With the exception, there's only one exception.
There's only one Democrat, I could imagine, in the future.
Remember, we're projecting now five, ten years in the future, whatever.
And that's AOC. I want to hear that last bit again.
I love it when you produce.
In the future, whatever.
And that's AOC. Yeah, well, we agree.
We agree on AOC. We sure do.
Sandy.
Sandy Osi.
President Sandy.
President Sandy.
I haven't thought about it in a long time.
She has a dog, though.
She's got that.
She's just got a dog.
No kids.
She's got a dog.
So that's perfect.
Got a pooch for the White House.
Well, I think the president has been put on notice.
Not about this in particular, but there was something that happened that caught my eye, and these are the things that we interpret in a particular way from the New York Times.
A former United States Marine posed as a security team member for Marine One, the helicopter that transports President Trump, and breached two checkpoints last week at Palm Beach International Airport.
Ah, they used to pull this stunt with Obama constantly.
They did it with Obama all the time.
It's just a message.
Just so you know, we can get to you any time we want.
Well, this brings us back to the Jeffrey Epstein hanging and some of the screwiness that's been showing up to BBC reporting that.
Apparently, Comey's daughter was somehow involved in the disappearance of the tapes.
She's a special prosecutor at the Southern District of New York.
She was put in there specifically.
Yeah, the tapes disappear.
Oh, we kept the wrong tapes.
Here, I have the clip.
The Jeffrey Epstein hanging story...
In a secure prison facility is the warning to everybody that anybody is done.
If they want to get rid of you, it's very easy to do.
And now they're pulling the stunt with...
Now, Trump has his own people.
Yeah, but this...
Let's see.
This guy, he just slipped through.
Yeah, what did they do with this guy once they caught him?
Did they bring him aside and grill him about why he did this, who's behind it, and throw him in jail, which they should do?
He was released on a $100,000 bond.
According to court records, neither Mr.
Magnin nor his lawyer could be reached Saturday.
If convicted, he faces a maximum of three years in prison, a fine of $250,000, and a year of supervised release.
So they let him off with a bail.
Yeah, let's see how that goes.
Let's see what goes.
How that goes.
Whether the guy does admit it in prison or if he just disappears?
Probably not.
But the guy is listed in the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Sex Offender Registry.
He was released from the Marines.
Dishonorable discharge.
Because of some sex offense, apparently.
And this guy, with fake credentials, mind you.
Fake credentials.
The only reason why he got stopped is a sheriff's deputy noticed he wasn't wearing the right Marine Corps uniform.
Standard during presidential travel.
Well, how about that, huh?
All you gotta do is have a fake ID and kind of look the part.
Well, thank goodness for the local police.
Message to you, Rudy.
Here's an Epstein clip since you brought it up.
Jailhouse video of the area around Jeffrey Epstein's cell on the day of an apparent suicide attempt no longer exists.
Federal prosecutors made that admission to a judge yesterday.
They said the New York City jail thought it preserved the footage of guards finding Epstein on July 23rd, but it actually saved video from a different part of the jail.
The FBI also determined the recording wasn't on the backup system due to technical errors.
Glenn!
Epstein later hanged himself in August while he awaited trial on sex trafficking charges.
I'm surprised that no one has used the glitch.
I keep looking for it.
No one has used the glitch word in this unfortunate circumstance where the backup even didn't have a copy.
It's so coincidental.
That's unbelievable.
Well, glitch may be code.
Yeah, for shitty code.
How's that?
It's code for crap code.
That's what it is.
But this?
This is not a glitch.
They could have easily have said it was a glitch.
They could have said something went wrong in the backup.
None of that.
I'm surprised.
Maybe absence of the term has some meaning.
Possibly.
Possibly.
All right, let's talk about Iran.
Looks like we're getting more right by the day.
Well, let's see.
I do have maybe a backup, kind of a...
Backgrounder?
Overview, overview.
The Iran update on Democracy Now!
might be appropriate.
The House of Representatives has voted to approve a non-binding war powers resolution aimed at limiting President Trump's ability to take further military action against Iran without congressional approval.
President Trump ratcheted up tensions with Iran by assassinating Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani in a targeted drone strike at the Baghdad International Airport last week.
Thursday's 224 to 194 House vote included three Republicans voting yes and eight Democrats voting no.
The resolution now heads to the Senate.
The vote came as Iran's ambassador to the United Nations blasted the U.S. at the U.N. Security Council, speaking on behalf of Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, who was unable to address the Security Council himself after the U.S. denied him a visa in violation of a 1947 U.S.-U.N. agreement.
This is Ambassador Majid Takravanshi.
I'm here today to deliver a statement on behalf of His Excellency Mr.
Zarif, whose visa was denied by the United States in contravention of the headquarters agreement.
And here is his statement.
We are meeting today to discuss a momentous imperative we are all confronted with.
The world is at the crossroads.
With the end of monopolies on power, one unhinged regime is frantically clamoring to turn back time.
Thousands gathered in Chicago.
He said unhinged regime?
Yeah, it was great.
Did he have the talking points on the prompter is the question?
Was it just right in front of his face?
With the end of monopolies on power, one unhinged regime is frantically clamoring to turn back time.
Thousands gathered in Chicago, New York, Seattle, and dozens of other cities to protest war with Iran Thursday night.
The New York Times has obtained video that appears to show an Iranian missile hitting the Boeing 737 jet that crashed shortly after takeoff in Tehran Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board.
Alright, so there's a lot to deconstruct here.
I'd like to go back a few days before we had the admission from apparently an Iranian top dog.
Well, before you go back a few days, let's go back even a few more days so I can get this one thing out of the way, which is the guy who died that's triggered the whole thing.
We want to get his name out of the way.
What would the clip be called?
Guy Who Died?
There's no clip.
I just have the article from Sacramento Bee.
Yes.
Go for it.
Because nobody talks about this guy, so it's not a clip.
I can't get a clip.
Got it.
But his name was Nauriz Waleed Hamid.
Lived in Sacramento.
The best story written about him was in the Sacramento Bee, because his wife was upset about this, to say the least.
And I'll just read a few paragraphs.
Yeah.
Hamid, who worked as a linguist and had attended classes at American River College, was killed in a military base near Kirkuk by a rocket attack.
The U.S. blamed Khatib Hezbollah, a militia group.
His wife was notified by his employer, Valiant Integrated Services.
Valiant is...
I'm just reading just a couple of random graphs so you get a feeling for this.
Valiant is based in Herndon, Virginia, and offers a range of international services, including interpreters, involving INSCOM, the Army Intelligence and Security Command, support for special operation forces, and counterintelligence services, according to its website.
Spook.
Sorry.
So the guy was a spook, amongst others, and got killed, and this was not acceptable.
So, the whole thing began when they...
Don't start killing our people.
Exactly.
Well, you'd think that that would be the message.
I've learned over the years that the use of the word but is...
You've got to be very careful with the but.
One must be careful with the but word.
When you say something and then you put a but in there, or if you say something and I say, well, yes, John, indeed, but...
Yeah, there's always a big but.
It negates everything that came before the but.
Then it's only post-butt that matters.
And this is all that I heard over the past couple of days when this all came out.
And of course, we have a montage.
Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American troops and thousands of innocent lives throughout the region.
But he was not the whole of the There is no question that Soleimani had American blood on his hands, that he was a bad actor in the region.
But if there is anything that we have learned, Soleimani is a person with American blood on his hands.
But we also know that this guy was a bad news guy, but he was a ranking official.
No illusions about Soleimani.
He was a terrible person.
Did bad things.
Soleimani was a bad guy.
Soleimani is an evil man.
He has absolutely ordered the murder of hundreds of Americans.
Soleimani was a malignant and dangerous character.
Soleimani has been a threat to America and Americans and our allies for a very long time.
However...
Undoubtedly, General Soleimani was a very bad man.
Soleimani is certainly a murderous individual, but Soleimani was a bad guy.
There's no question about that.
This is an awful person.
However, Soleimani was a terrorist, so no one's going to lament his death.
So this is all politicizing the event.
And it was immediate.
And it was shameless on all sides.
I do have to mention something.
I didn't realize that there's an intellectual variation of but, which is however.
However, I know.
I considered using that myself.
I was like, yes, darling, however.
Yes, exactly.
However, people.
You won't even hear the shoe coming.
So it was completely politicized.
So anyone who is now boo-hoo, war, F you.
What a bunch of phonies.
Immediately taking to politicize.
They don't care about...
Even the guy who was a spook is an American citizen.
There were other...
I don't know if it was just contractors or other Americans of whatever ilk who were also wounded.
Shit was blown up.
Now, that doesn't matter at all.
They don't care.
And by the way, they don't care.
They don't care how many servicemen and women get killed.
You never see that on the news.
Oh, maybe there's a little announcement here or there.
No one cares anymore, at least in the news media.
It's not important.
It's all about power and politics.
Here's Joe Biden on the trail.
Six months ago, here in New York City, I made the case that Donald Trump was dangerously incompetent and incapable of world leadership.
In the past few days, in the wake of the killing of the Iranian General Soleimani, I think Donald Trump has proven beyond...
That comment beyond dispute.
The haphazard decision-making process that led up to it, the failure to consult with our allies or Congress, and the reckless disregard for the consequences that would surely follow was, in my view, dangerously incompetent.
We have not heard a sober-minded explanation to reassure the American people that this decision and its consequences were thought through.
No level-headed words meant to dial down the tensions and to take us off the path of conflict.
No press conference or consultation with our Congress.
I love that he's asking for press conferences with Congress or a consultation.
Tensions.
Consentation.
Listen to it.
No level-headed words meant to dial down the tensions and to take us off the path of conflict.
No press conference or consultation with our Congress.
No.
What we've heard so far from this president are tweets, threats, and tantrums.
And however you may feel about American military presence in the Middle East, there's a right way and a wrong way to draw down our troops, our true presence.
Getting unceremoniously kicked out is unequivocally the wrong way.
Complete politicization, which I guess Joe would make sense that he's doing that.
But again, it's all about Trump, and it's very clear, it should be obvious to most, that this will be the next impeachment election.
Article of impeachment or whatever they're going to call it.
That's why the War Powers Resolution came out, which is a resolution.
It's not law.
It doesn't restrict anything above what the Constitution says, which is very clear and which has been ignored by every president since I've been alive, except for that one time when we got approval from Congress to go to war against Iraq and Afghanistan, we just went into all kinds of places.
So it doesn't matter whether they give permission or not.
It's a crapshoot.
But the idea is to catch him.
Catch him doing something.
The next time he kills some evil guy, then we're going to impeach him again.
Here's Jackie Speier, who is from California on CNN. Are you blaming the president in any way for the fact that it appears that Iran shot down that jetliner?
No.
No, but I am saying that but for the escalation in the actions taken by Iran, there would not be 176 people dead today.
It all emanates from the killing of Soleimani.
Well, again, the administration would say that Soleimani...
What's interesting here is the CNN host is really trying to explain to her, the viewer, or I don't know, that, well, hold on a second, you know, it really was the Iranians who shot something off and apparently it hit the plane.
I mean, it really is them.
And I think he's not doing it to, say, lighten up on the president.
I think he's doing it to allow her to continuously say, yeah, but if he hadn't gotten up in the morning...
None of this would happen.
If he wasn't president, none of this would happen.
Well, again, the administration would say that Soleimani himself was plotting attacks on Americans, so the attack on Soleimani itself emanates from Soleimani.
But just to be clear, it was Iran that shot down, apparently, that jet.
What culpability do they have?
How do you think they should be held to account?
Certainly it needs to be looked at from many perspectives.
I mean, if it was accidental, that certainly needs to be taken into account as well.
But we need to remember how this all started.
Trump was born!
That's how it started!
It started from the time the President of the United States reneged on...
Reneged?
Isn't it reneged?
I've heard it pronounced both ways.
You know, I kind of remember that conversation.
This has started from the time the President of the United States reneged on the nuclear deal that we had with Iran and then imposed severe sanctions on Iran that has hurt them economically, then called the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization.
He keeps ramping up.
They didn't call it a terrorist organization.
It was designated as such.
I'm not sure if that needs congressional approval, but it was quite a conversation.
And yes, then they were designated, not necessarily by the president.
Called the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization.
He keeps ramping it up, and the result is that they respond.
We should be at the negotiating table trying to develop a plan for peace, trying to develop a new JCPOA if necessary with the president's informater on it, so that we don't have Iran building nuclear weapons.
But what generated them shooting missiles in the air was the fact that they were providing vengeance or a tit-for-tat to the United States for having killed their general.
Orange man bad.
Let's look at it from the other...
She's shameless.
Yeah.
Well, and the Republicans were out in mass, too.
In particular, Mike Pompeo.
Let's remember that he is also a former spook.
And he knows a lot and he's been involved in a lot.
And he's been the guy that's been wanting to kill this guy for a decade.
So they played a clip of his while talking to watermelon head John Kerry on CNN. On the JCPOA, you know, when you were watching President Trump earlier this week, they're standing at the White House.
He said it was the Obama administration who essentially paid for those Iranian missiles that were aimed at Americans.
And then your successor, Mike Pompeo, was asked about that and about you on Fox News.
And this is what he said.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
She has, this is what, Brooke?
Yeah, Brooke.
She has the same cadence, even though she steps up to speed a little bit, as Jackie Speier did, which indicates to me they're all in the same milieu.
Oh, they probably go to lunch together.
Definitely.
They sound almost identical in their cadence.
Yeah, they do.
I'm sorry.
Go on.
No, it's okay.
And by the way, Trump did start this political part, which Pompeo was propagating.
They had the resources.
They had the ability to build out the militias in Syria, to underwrite Hezbollah, to build their missile program.
All of the things that we are now confronting are a direct result of the resources that the regime had available as a result of that terrible nuclear war.
By the way, John Kerry admitted back in 2016 that this could be an eventuality with the money being used.
So he already spilled the beans on that a couple years ago.
He knew that risk and it's now come to fruition.
So I don't know about John Kerry knowing anything previously, but there you go.
Bunch of chicken shit hawks out there.
Well, you know, if Obama hadn't given all that for the cash, the pallets of cash, this wouldn't have happened.
Oh, please.
If Obama wasn't born, it wouldn't have happened.
It's disgusting.
I'm not going to play Kerry's clip because we have a rule about that.
Anyway, so now...
Oh, you know what?
That was a redo, and I'm glad that you are biting by it.
One of our producers, Lila Puke, did an end-of-show mix, which had another one of those talking points, everyone saying it.
Now, he didn't send me the source material.
I could not find the source material.
As far as I know, it's not a Supercuts.
So I'll play the full thing at the end of the show, obviously.
I just want you to hear another meme that was out there that he expertly put together in this end-of-show mix.
Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal, and fast.
It was not a scintilla of evidence presented to justify the so-called imminent threat.
There's no clear evidence of an imminent threat.
You can have two stories.
You can't say that something was imminent when it was not.
There was no evidence of an imminent and specific threat.
Transparently lying about an imminent threat.
This administration has not made the case that there was an imminent threat.
They did not show us that they were dealing with an imminent threat.
I saw no evidence of that whatsoever.
The president puts his interests above America's interests.
Imminent threat.
Imminent threat.
Okay, so you get the idea.
Imminent threat.
This is what was lacking.
And this is where Gates, who you played a clip from earlier, strayed from the Republican Party and said, you know, yeah, I think I'm going to be on board with the War Powers Resolution, which is easy for him to do because it's the same as what's already on the books.
It's just kind of a confirmation.
So imminent threat is, there was a lack of imminent threat.
He just went off crazy, unhinged.
You heard the talking points from the ambassador there.
Unhinged, crazy, imminent...
There was no imminent threat.
What are you doing?
Probably just to distract from the impeachment.
But it really does...
Which is a talking point that...
I think I have a clip on this.
Okay.
Let's see, where is it?
I didn't think about it.
You jumped me.
You got me.
You caught me on my flat foot.
And I've really done a poor job of naming the clips today.
So I can not find anything.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I do have it.
But I don't, I can't find it.
Never mind, just keep talking.
It would be, here it is, Colonel Wilkerson on Iran and impeachment.
I think that would be the one.
December 17th, 1998, the front page banner headline read, Impeachment vote in-house delayed as Clinton launches Iraq airstrike, citing military need to move swiftly.
Colonel Wilkerson, can you respond?
For 15 years, Amy, I've taught this to over 400 students on two campuses.
National Security Decision Making is what it's called.
One of the influences I emphasize is domestic politics.
I would be a traitor to the academic curriculum which I teach.
I would be a traitor to the truth if I didn't say, of course, that had something to do with it.
And watch out, because there will be more, because there will be more impeachment.
More impeachment, more of the time!
You might as well play the second half of that clip, which is final words.
This is Wilkerson going off.
Any final words, Colonel Wilkerson, as we move into this very critical period with President Trump saying, if Iran responds to the U.S. assassination of one of their leaders, that the U.S. will hit 52 sites, including cultural institutions, Which is, by the way, considered a war crime.
52 for the 52...
Oh yes, war criminal.
I'm sorry.
We need to take him to the criminal court in The Hague.
That's where Trump belongs.
Which is, by the way, considered a war crime.
52 for the 52 hostages Iran took more than 40 years ago.
If that were the case and we actually executed such a package, we would solidify 80 million people in a way that for the next 30 years would cost the lives of countless Americans, business people, tourists and so forth throughout the region and perhaps throughout the world.
I know what the packages look like for bombing Iran.
Okay.
There he goes on.
Well, let's just move quickly through the facts and then we'll deconstruct what probably was going on here.
So now we know that, well, here's Trump, actually.
I thought that was kind of a cute clip.
But somebody could have made a mistake on the other side.
Could have made a mistake.
It was flying in...
Not our system.
It has nothing to do with us.
It was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood.
And somebody...
Hey, man.
That's what you get for flying in a rough neighborhood, man.
You shouldn't be flying in rough neighborhoods at 8,000 feet.
Pretty rough neighborhood.
And somebody could have made a mistake.
Some people say it was mechanical.
I personally don't think that's...
Even a question, personally.
And then we have, of course, Trudeau.
We have intelligence from multiple sources, including our allies.
Was this after it was already in the news that he says, we have intelligence?
Or did he actually know this?
I think this was just before, but that particular clip intrigued me for some other reason, which is, when did Trudeau decide to wear a beard, kind of a goatee?
Yeah.
Like an evil guy's goatee.
He looks like the bad guy in one of these movies.
Yeah, he's roughing himself up.
Who is this?
Getting ready for war, baby.
We have intelligence from multiple sources, including our allies and our own intelligence.
The evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile.
This may well have been unintentional.
May well have been.
Let's see.
Always of interest when these things happen.
Who was on the aircraft?
Today's grief all-consuming at so many of Canada's universities.
Here at Western Memorial to promising students, their futures robbed.
It's very hard.
Masood Zachary lost his friend Hadis Hayat Davoudi, a PhD student.
We're all hoping that she lost the plane.
And when we saw the official name, the official list of names, all hopes blew.
Students from more than 10 Canadian universities died in the crash.
Driven by troubled politics with the U.S. and Canada's academic reputation, this country is a popular destination for Iranian students.
Does Canada have a reputation for their education?
They have a couple of really outstanding colleges, yeah.
I got a note from one of our knights.
McGill's being one of them.
One of our knights, who is an intelligence analyst, I do not know where, but he asked me to keep his identity anonymous in this case.
I'll read his note.
It's short.
It's coming out that the Canadians and a few Russians on the Ukraine plane shot down were primarily scientists and engineers working in Iranian nuclear plants.
Fearful that those plans could be U.S. drone targets, the scientists decided to leave as a group so no one would be held hostage until the conflict was over.
Because they knew the plans and operations of the Iran nuclear program...
They could be debriefed.
So Iran told the scientists they would be moved to safety but warned they would not be allowed to leave Iran.
They did not listen.
Now, I don't know if that's true, but that would certainly give a reason for the Iranians to purposefully target that aircraft.
It's fanciful.
It sounds great for the movie.
It sounds good for the movie.
It's a Tom Clancy type thing.
Totally.
It really doesn't matter because the administration, the president, everybody knows one thing in the legendary words of Rahm Emanuel, never let a crisis go to waste.
Immediately we're trying to get shit started in Iran, which is the whole point.
The point is you need to have an uprising for regime change.
So the president tweeted in Farsi, which also had a translation, but he tweeted in Farsi, to the brave, long-suffering people of Iran, I've stood with you since the beginning of my presidency.
And my administration will continue to stand with you.
We are following your protests closely and are inspired by your courage.
Facebook is now being, not just Facebook, Twitter, but I think Facebook's the main one.
Iranian journalists, Russian journalists, of course, but I think some in the U.S. possibly, are demanding an end of Iranian censorship of Iranian media on Instagram and Facebook.
According to RT, Facebook thought police is censoring pro-Iran posts to comply with U.S. sanctions.
I'm not sure about that, but I'm damn sure that intelligence services are inside of Facebook and making sure that we don't see anything that we don't want to.
What we want is people protesting against the regime.
We want flags.
We want some signs.
We want banners.
It's full on.
It's full on.
They're really trying to spark it up now, right down to the ambassador from the United Kingdom standing out there Oh, why is this?
Is this not going to play now all of a sudden?
Let's see if it plays like this.
Oh, crap.
One of my clips is broken.
Damn it, it was a good one, too.
The ambassador to the UK was arrested at an anti-regime protest, which, of course, has played off as, ah, it was a mistake.
I thought it was a vigil.
I was there for five minutes, and then I left, and they detained me, or they arrested me, and we figured it out.
No.
No.
This is full on.
This is the idea.
We need protests.
We need images of protests.
We need Facebook and Instagram protests.
Nothing else.
And I think they're going to do it.
They may just pull it off.
I'm looking...
I recall the last show or two, I mentioned that most of these...
Not the majority, but there was a lot of Canadians killed in the crash.
Yeah.
And I'm just...
Relating back to what your spook informant may have said.
Well, they were connected to the University of Alberta.
A lot of students and I guess some professors.
And based on what he said, so I look up University of Alberta nuclear facilities.
The University of Alberta is one of the nuke places.
They have Slowpoke, a nuclear reactor facility.
I told you.
They do nuclear-tied productions.
They do neutron activation analysis.
They do all these high-end...
In the middle of nowhere at the University of Alberta, it is a center of research.
And there was a story that I can't find.
So it makes sense what he said based on this if we're going to put two and two together.
Well, that's obviously one way we could look at it.
And I'm pretty sure from the evidence that we have and also how many of these things are out there and...
The similarities between the 1989 downing of an Iranian jetliner that we took responsibility for, which was done with a man pad, with a stinger missile, shoulder fired.
Those things are pretty good.
No, it wasn't.
It was done off of a ship by one of the surface-to-air missiles.
Yes, it was a stinger on a ship.
I looked it up.
A stinger on a ship?
Yep.
It was a surface-to-air missile.
How could that be an accident?
It wasn't.
It wasn't an accident.
It was an accident that they targeted that.
They were confused.
It was confusion.
It wasn't purposeful.
So they say.
Who the hell knows?
But I like the theory that the Iranians were so afraid that they killed all the scientists.
I mean, I don't like it, but it's possible.
Here's a little tip for people trying to escape.
So they all got on the plane together, not thinking, you know...
About the possibility of them all getting killed at once.
One of them, a couple should have stayed back and then snuck out of the, taken a train out of town.
I mean, there's other ways to leave.
That seems to me.
Yeah, I think one or two missed the flight, and so there's been some stories about that.
Now, conversely, let's just say that's all coincidence.
It happens to be nuclear students, scientists, you know, studying scientists.
Although, there was a report that I did not clip.
Where someone said, that girl was a PhD in disguise, meaning that she was incredibly smart, but...
There you go.
It said...
It could also have been that we wanted, although a very risky and very evil scenario, let's just take it as a possibility, that they spoofed the transponder, made it look like something else.
We discussed this as a possibility just to get the Iranians to shoot it down and then to say, ah, exactly what's happening now.
I mean, the result is the same.
It really doesn't matter.
Who did it or why they did it?
The result is it happened and now we see report after report filtered expertly.
Filtered expertly because if you look around outside of the bag, face bag and the twatters, you'll see that there's, you know, it's from all sides.
There's all kinds of things going on in Iran.
It's not just anti-regime, but that's what we're going to see.
Well, let's stop for a second and also reflect on a couple of other incidents that took place.
And this was from an Israeli intelligence, and this took place a number of years ago, where a couple of very famous Iranian nuclear scientists were assassinated in the streets.
One by a guy in a motorcycle.
Oh, that's right.
I remember that.
Yeah, that's not that long ago even.
Yeah, and this was attributed by some people, I think Ray McGovern was one of them, to Mossad.
And so Mossad could have actually been involved, because they're pretty good about staying out of the limelight.
If there was a transponder swap out or some sort of a spoof, I don't think it would be anything that we'd ever do, to be honest about it, in this regard, because we don't care about these scientists.
Who cares about those scientists?
No, no, no.
Not the scientists, but just to have civilians killed, pin it on Iran, and then get protests started.
I'm just looking at it as an opportunity.
Yeah, I think that's minor compared to the realities of trying to get rid of these scientists.
A clip from 2012.
The families for five Iranian nuclear scientists say Israel, Great Britain, and the U.S. assassinated their loved ones.
Those families are now asking Iran's legal system to pursue their complaint through international courts.
Iran claims the attacks were part of a covert mission by Israel and the West to sabotage its nuclear program.
The U.S. and Britain have denied any involvement in the murders.
Israel has not commented on the matter.
I just want to say that there is no other media property that I'm aware of that on the fly can talk about something that one host who clearly should never be able to recall these things has the longest memory in history, remembers it, and production fires off the clip within seconds.
Please appreciate that as producers.
Applause, applause.
Please clap.
Please clap.
Well, I'm glad you found that clip.
But the point is that it seems to me if we're going to go in that direction, it would be Mossad that wanted to get rid of these guys.
Because it does put kind of a chink in the armor of the program.
Right.
Just saying.
But this University of Alberta thing, it kind of has me like, whoa.
Well, our intelligence analyst said this, you know, so...
Well, that hasn't come up in the conversation on CNN. It would be useful for at least one of these outfits.
I think they could use that.
I think they could throw that in the mix.
But I'm not so sure.
And by the way...
Corporate interests don't want to hear about it.
Right.
Sorry.
Well, we're waiting for the revolution.
And I think the signs are being printed.
The flags are being ironed.
We'll get everything over there.
Lickety-split.
We'll load everybody up.
But we did it with Hong Kong.
There should be no problem at all to just redirect the team and send them over to Tehran or any other handy place where we can get some cameras in.
And it'll be good to go.
Yeah, we'll see.
Well, just look at the headlines.
Let's do a test.
I will go to the news.google.com, which doesn't even autocomplete on my computer since I don't use Google.
Top of the list.
Boom.
Thousands of Iranian protesters hit streets condemning leaders over downed plain.
I didn't search for Iran or anything.
I just went to Google News, and that is the top headline.
The ones below.
Furor in Iran and abroad.
Iran faces growing criticism at home.
That's the main ones.
So CNN is all over it.
They're pushing the...
They're pushing what they're told to push.
Well, of course.
And that's the thousands of protesters.
We need more, but that's a good start.
Huh.
And just to show you that we have our eye on the ball, while all of this was taking place, while we were all looking at Iran, Israel turned on their pipeline.
And gas is now flowing from Iran.
The Leviathan Fields, actually I think the Tamarin Fields, which is part of that, but right next door, off the coast, now flowing into Israel and they will become an energy producer for the first time in their history.
And I'm sure Bill Clinton is very happy because this is Nobel energy.
Well, it's interesting actually.
I wonder if our producer is still invested in Nobel energy.
Do you remember he started investing in...
Oh, ha ha!
Well, it looks like it went up to $22.
Last time I looked, it was $8.
Ah, you should have bought.
What do I know?
I'm a dope.
I don't know any of this.
I never pay any attention to this stuff.
Yeah, so everything's good.
No one pay attention to what's happening over there, and they have their deals with Greece and Cyprus, and they're going to be selling that to Europe.
So it all ratchets up, and hopefully we get the hell out of the way.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who literally put the C in the chink in the armor.
John C. Demorak!
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Hey, trolls, in the morning to you, all hanging out there, trolling away at noagendastream.com.
Let me see how many trolls we got on a day like this.
This is a Sunday.
People want to hear some analysis.
And very nice, 1,278 of y'all trolls.
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There's a lot of live shows on No Agenda Stream.
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A new word.
A new Trumpism.
And the artwork was Darren O'Neill.
That was his first win, I think, of the new year.
He was very excited, and rightfully so.
Again, we're in this popping mode where we just look at the art, and if it pops, it has a leg up.
And this was the new Coke Bro, now with Soros, kind of a take-off on the Coca-Cola, new Coke.
Yeah.
And we both liked it.
It made sense immediately.
There actually was a lot of art.
Let me see.
There was something else I thought I liked.
What are we looking at?
I don't really remember.
I mean, a lot of people, you know, like, did the toilet roll robot.
No.
Stuff with small words.
You've got to look at it objectively, people.
It's got to pop off the page.
We're looking at 25 pieces.
Boom!
You know?
You see it.
You see it immediately.
Well, thank you, Darren.
We really appreciate it.
I just can't thank Darren O'Neill enough.
I mean, he does our pre-shows, the pre-stream before every single show gets everyone all riled up.
Playing a lot of Rush this morning, of course.
Neil Peart died from Rush.
I was never a Rush fan.
I don't know about you, John.
I never liked Rush ever.
Yeah.
But on the same day...
There was a progressive rock, and actually Nick, who's a musician, explained probably why he didn't like it.
Peart.
Peart.
I'm sorry.
Peart.
Peart.
I said it wrong.
He says Rush was probably one of the greatest progressive rock bands.
There's a very specific style of rock and roll that does not appeal to everybody.
No, it never appealed to me either.
But I do know how people are affected by this.
There's a lot of sadness.
Well, Russia's Canada's band.
Sadly, on the same day, Rick Kelman, who was my first friend in New York and the longtime audio engineer at MTV, he passed away in his sleep.
I was a shocker.
You know, this was like, I don't know, it's like shit.
Kelman, really?
Sucked.
How old was he?
Rick, he couldn't have been over 60.
I think it was probably, yeah, it was probably 59, 60.
Yikes.
Yeah.
Well, he'd been through some challenging times, but we kept in contact.
Anyway.
Sorry, onward with the donation search.
Enough of the dead segment.
We need a segment.
We need a little music.
We need a little music to play.
Beep, beep, beep, beep.
No, it has to be something.
You are the wind beneath my wings.
All right, let's thank some folks.
All right, Anonymous starts us off with New York City.
$2,020.
Wow!
He's done a year number!
Yeah.
Shoo!
Nice!
$1,020 for the year 2020.
And that is appreciated because the list is very short today.
Happy New Year!
Congratulations on $1,200.
Looking to the next 12 years, episode 1206 had me laughing out loud with your CES coverage.
You know, a lot of people gave us feedback on that and said they really liked it.
I had no idea that mocking CES coverage would be better than the CES coverage itself.
Hey, I made a career out of this.
I do have two quick products announced at CES. After the donation segment?
No, I'm just going to do it right now.
It's just two quick headlines.
I built my own glamorous vibrator at CES. That woman has no self-respect.
And it was magical.
And then Roomba, and this was all over the news, Roomba's maker's future robot will have arms, may do dishes.
Oh my god, they've invented a washing machine.
A dishwasher, no less.
Crazy!
Roomba.
I hate that company.
You actually hate the spies?
Yeah.
I've said this on the show before.
I bitch and moan about Roomba all the time.
I robot.
I robot.
Remind us.
They had me thrown out of an event because I snuck in early to get some scoops on stuff and they busted me and they...
Security comes in and drags me out, and I said, who the hell, what was that all about?
I said, who turned me in?
And they said Roomba, the Roomba people.
The Roomba are narcs!
And I was doing this, I was actually interviewing one of their people at the time, and I was going to give them some good coverage.
Well, it makes total sense.
That is the...
The culture within the company, and that's why it's the same room of people who were mapping your house and selling the data.
You should get rid of those.
Narcs.
Narcs.
And I never got an apology.
I bitch and moan about this, and I told, oh, I know the CEO of this company.
Well, why don't you tell them what a jerk the company is to do this?
And they, nothing.
Got nothing.
By the way, this has been going on for years.
I've been complaining.
Yeah.
You think I'd get a note from the Public Relations Department?
No.
Can I give Anonymous a karma?
Yes, please do.
I think it's very karma-worthy.
Literally gave us the karma we needed today.
Short list.
Yeah, very short list.
You've got karma.
You know what?
And I'm worried about it.
Because what CNN already knows, we might have to figure out.
People are tired.
They don't want to hear it anymore.
They want to hear about...
That's why I led off today with Harry and Megxit.
That's what we're going to have to do on this show.
People don't appreciate the rest.
They don't want any analysis, apparently.
Don't want to be right.
Well, apparently Sir AJ Anonymous, knight of the O, $333.33, does care.
Oh, good.
And he says, vocal crying for fun and profit.
No jingles, no karma.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Nathan Newberg, $222.22.
We drop immediately the associate executive producer in the morning, gentlemen.
Double making it rain donation in remembrance of Club 33.
Please, goat karma and no jingles.
Thanks.
Ted Nathan, Ned Newberg.
He actually writes, please, goat free karma and no jingles.
So I shall give him a goat free dosing.
I read poorly.
You've got karma.
That's okay.
That's why there's two of us.
Sir Rosas in Brookhaven, Georgia.
There's only one of him.
$202.
May your 2020 be filled with space boobs galore.
Sir Rosas.
Yes!
Space boobs.
And last, on this very short list, and it's even shorter in the second half, Dame Anonymous Goddess.
Apparently she's in the Army or somewhere.
$200 APO address.
Here with long overdue donation, thanks for keeping my douchebag fiancé and I sane in this crazy world.
I'm up for a pretty big promotion at work.
Nice.
And also, we just found out we're expecting, if possible, I need some jobs karma and some human resource gestation karma.
Mm-hmm.
And if you want to follow it up with an LGY, I'd appreciate it.
Take care, guys, and I promise to insist that my douchebag donates before the little one arrives.
Well, congratulations, Dame Anonymous Goddess.
Yes, gestation karma it is, and jobs karma for you.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got...
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Yay!
There it is, your LGY at the end.
Beautiful.
And that's our group today for show 1207.
Yeah, fatigue, I guess.
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I have a stink bug update.
Oh, stink bug.
Do we need a jingle for the stink bug update?
We probably do.
In one of these days, because I'm going to keep these updates going, because I think this is maybe something up with these stink bugs.
Before you start, we had research pest control.
They come by quarterly here to spray and check and make sure, because we live in Texas.
And I asked the guy about stink, marmorated stink bugs.
He says, no, no.
Very, very few would you see in Texas, he says, but if you see one and it has an orange rim on its back, he says, immediately back away and call a professional.
Those can apparently kill you.
What?
Yes.
The stink bug that has an orange rim on its shell.
What's it called?
The deadly bug.
He didn't give me an orange rim bug.
So we just call it the Trump bug.
Yeah, apparently, I didn't know you were...
Are you sure the guy was just putting you on?
No, no, I don't think so.
Well, you go ahead with your update and I will look it up.
It's terrible.
Alright, well anyway, this past Sunday, this comes in from one of our regular producers, Glenn Edward.
This past Saturday morning, unfortunately, I don't remember where he's from, so this is kind of, he doesn't put it in here.
I spotted a marmaladed, he put marmaladed.
That would be the orange one.
Perched on my bathroom sink faucet, possibly resting after getting a drink.
I keep the house pretty dry, but never lower than 33% humidity.
Details we don't need.
This is the first stink bug I've seen in a few years that managed to get into the house.
So I assume with this rare appearance and with your last show's report, their numbers have jumped.
This one must have been near the edge of the back porch and he goes on about that.
I grabbed one by the legs with tweezers and escorted it outside where it came from.
It did not like that.
I would suggest using an empty pill bottle in the future to trap them inside.
I just have to work out a sliding flap.
I don't understand why nobody makes bug removing tools for the home.
They're cheap enough to sell at the dollar stores.
I'm frequently trapped Some crawling things off the wall to take outside rather than smashing it into the paint job.
The stink bug presents a unique problem.
They will stink if you squish them, and they take flight when provoked enough.
So it's kind of a beetle, I guess.
But they're slow.
Apparently they're quite slow.
But they're slow enough to capture when they're just crawling.
You can't see them against the most woodwork or anything else that's dark.
But they show up against anything else they perch on, and they could be inside your home for days before you spot them.
When they do fly, page two, they're about the loudest bug I've ever heard.
It must be how their wings whip the air.
They don't bite or sting, just annoy.
Cats will probably play with them, but nothing wants to eat them.
Okay, so there you go.
I have an update.
The orange-rimmed stink bug is actually known as a kissing bug, currently found so far in Tennessee and Georgia.
It is not the stink bug.
It looks very similar to it.
It does have orange rim, and you do not want to touch these or try and catch them because this has Chagas disease.
C-H-A-G-A-S, and can be fatal if left untreated.
They feed on the blood of mammals, including humans and dogs.
So it's a form of a tick?
Yeah, only it looks like a stink bug.
Those ticks.
Yeah.
We need more chickens.
If the country was filled with chickens, we wouldn't have any of these problems.
When you go to Slovenia, I should say, the whole country is filled with chickens.
They're all over the place.
Unfortunately, we have a lot of raccoons and other critters here that would like to eat these chickens.
But most chickens, if you have a roosting place, they'll go back into their roost and you can close it up for the night.
Amidst all of the possible regime change, we have news from Venezuela.
And I got this from a podcast, believe it or not.
The podcaster's name is Anya Parampil.
I believe she may be from Venezuela.
Apparently, Juan Guaido's presidency is over.
He's been replaced, and no one heard about it.
And the report is fantastic.
Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido's term as president of the country's national assembly came to an end on Sunday, January 5th.
Guaido had hoped to extend his reign beyond the legally mandated year long term limit.
However, after it became clear that he did not have enough votes to win, the rookie politician actually attempted to jump the fence surrounding Venezuela's legislature in order to make it appear as though the government had prevented him from entering.
Guaido could have entered the building through the front door, as other deputados did.
The video of him trying to jump over the fence, you know, it basically looks like Obama in a blue suit trying to jump over the fence, but he could have just gone in the front door, but that wouldn't have been the right visual, you see.
One opposition lawmaker told reporters most were able to enter without incident.
Yet Guaido repeatedly attempted to enter the building alongside lawmakers who had been banned from the National Assembly over their alleged involvement in criminal activity.
Luis Para, who was elected as the new president of the National Assembly, claims Guaido staged the incident because he did not have enough votes to win.
U.S.-backed Venezuelan coup officials, such as Guaido's so-called ambassador to Washington, Carlos Vecchio, shared video of the day's events claiming it depicted a valiant Guaido overcoming government repression.
U.S.-acting Undersecretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs Michael Kozak tweeted shortly after the melee, claiming, quote, Juan Guaido remains Venezuela's interim president under its constitution.
This morning's phony National Assembly session lacked a legal quorum.
There was no vote.
Yet at least 140 out of Venezuela's 167 legislators were present at the meeting, well above the 50% required for a legal quorum.
81 of them voted to install Parra, a legislator from the U.S.-backed Primero Justicia party, as president of the National Assembly, officially putting Guaido's rule to an end.
Still, Guaido held his own swearing-in ceremony at the offices of El Nacional, an opposition-owned newspaper, in order to keep up appearances.
Considering the U.S. has cited his control of Venezuela's National Assembly as the legal justification for its recognition of Guaido as president of the entire country, these developments are perhaps the most fatal blow dealt to the Trump administration's coup policy to date.
Yeah.
Fail and then it's so bad that the guy's got to pretend to look like, oh, I'm a hero.
I'm standing up against the oppressors.
I'm jumping over the fence.
And they just voted in a different guy.
And then he said, no, no, no, that's not fair.
And he went back to his own casa and did his own swearing in ceremony.
No, I'm still the guy.
This is sad.
This is really comedic.
Did Pompeo just abandon the guy?
I mean, did Bolton abandon the guy?
I didn't cut it.
What?
The guy didn't cut it.
He probably was a Bolton guy.
I know, but what is this pathetic trying?
Well, the new guy is an American-backed political party.
He's also a spook.
He's another spook.
He's a different guy.
Yes, clearly, we've got to get this guy in because that old guy, I mean, I guess the Obama look is not working anymore.
Have we seen the new guy?
Do we know what the new guy looks like?
What's his name?
Rio.
She mentioned it.
Rio.
Let me see.
Venezuela.
New Presidente.
I think you have to put the E at the end for Presidente.
Does it even say?
It's not even showing up.
New president.
What's your search criteria?
New president.
Well, that would be it.
New president in Venezuela.
Yeah, I tried that.
Let me see.
Maybe I'll have to go to the Google News again and see if they've got anything.
Listen to the headlines.
This is interesting.
Washington Post.
Guaido, opposition lawmakers defy security forces, burst into Venezuela's National Assembly.
We just heard a woman who's there who said that didn't happen.
Los Angeles Times.
Venezuela opposition leader Juan Guaido takes new oath amid chaos.
Wow!
They won't even go with the new guy.
That's crazy!
To me, we're witnessing dueling intelligence agencies.
Yes.
And my guess is the one that's causing the trouble and all the contradictions, and I don't know who's pushing whose buttons in these newspapers, but obviously they're hooked up to somebody, is that little State Department intelligence agency, that little mysterious one, that's always getting in the way.
And causing trouble.
Yes, because I'm reading here that Elliott Abrams, the U.S. representative for Venezuela, now we know Elliott Abrams, he's a real bad actor.
Yeah.
He welcomed the re-election of Guaido.
Abrams said U.S. officials remain undaunted and will continue to put economic pressure on the Maduro government through additional sanctions.
Yeah.
And in this whole report, and I'm reading Wall Street Journal and Los Angeles Times, there's not a mention of the guy who was sworn in.
No.
I'm looking at even the Venezuelan presidential crisis on Wikipedia, which is kept up today, has not gotten mentioned.
So this is really, this is just unbelievable.
I mean, our news media is just totally corrupt.
It's not worth it.
It's just not.
Wow.
Well, thank God for Anya Parampil.
She's Russian.
Okay, whatevs.
Russians are running a game.
Anyway, I thought that was...
The information is terrible.
Even Amy hasn't gotten anything good.
They're not trying.
They just aren't trying.
Well, we know the Chinese, the Russians, and us all want that oil field.
Yes.
Possibly the biggest in the Western Hemisphere.
Yes.
So we got three big superpowers.
We're the closest to it.
We should have it by default.
Hey, man.
Actually, that was interesting, just going back to Iran for a second.
The Iraqi prime minister claimed that Trump threatened false flag attacks on protesters if he didn't accept the oil deals.
Remember, Trump said, we got the oil, we got the oil.
And that we were demanding 50% of the oil?
Yeah.
This is all unverified.
No, it's just a data point.
I'm just throwing it in there.
Just what it is.
All right, well, let's go to the upcoming Debate Rundown.
This is Debate Rundown.
This is for Tuesday.
Ah, very good.
And this will be on CNN? Who's hosting it this time?
I believe so.
In election news, six presidential candidates, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Joe Biden, and Tom Steyer, will take to the stage for the final Democratic debate before the Iowa caucus.
It will happen in Des Moines next Tuesday.
All the candidates on stage will be white after New Jersey Senator Cory Booker and entrepreneur Andrew Yang did not qualify for the debate.
Billionaire Tom Steyer qualified after pouring more than $115 million of his own money into his campaign.
Billionaire former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg did not qualify for the debate despite spending nearly $170 million of his own money on ads.
I picked up a report from Rachel that I We don't play much Rachel Maddow on this show.
And I did cut out almost every pause and every eye roll and neck stretch and all the things she does just to chop it down to under two minutes.
But this was hilarious in context of her hating all Republicans, her hating everything that is not the Democrat Party, it being MSNBC, and now we have these two billionaires, Tom Steyer and Michael Bloomberg, who are...
Messing it all up.
Last night, Tom Steyer officially qualified for the next Democratic candidates debate which will be in Iowa next week.
The deadline to qualify is today and he has made it.
In the days leading up to today's deadline, it really didn't seem like Tom Steyer was going to make it onto that debate stage.
He was in low single digits in most national and statewide polls.
He needed better numbers in at least two polls.
But then last night, last minute, almost out of nowhere, he came in really close to the top.
Of the polls in two early states, polling third, tied with Elizabeth Warren for third in Nevada.
I guess we should just point out, just to reiterate, that the election debate committee, which used to be the Women League of Voters who quit in disgust, Have determined that for the primary, and I think it's more DNC, that you have to have certain qualifications to even appear on the debate stage, and you're seeing the results where apparently you can pop ahead real easy.
At a whopping 12%, double digits, right?
12% tied for third.
third and look at this second place in south carolina joe biden's way out of front right but look who's right tom starr 15 in south carolina frankly a surprise for politics geeks right for those of us who pour over each new poll Do you think that she sits there in her office and is pouring over each new poll?
I need to get to the bottom of these stats and information.
And it's yes.
Isn't it just like a simple question?
And it's just polling.
I mean, don't just look at the results.
Is there stuff to pour over?
For politics geeks, right?
For those of us who pour over each new poll.
A surprise.
But if you are a TV watcher in the great state of South Carolina or the great state of Nevada, it was probably less surprising to you.
Because check this out.
Along with the fresh numbers we got today on total ad spending for all the candidates, we also got a breakdown of what the candidates are spending by state.
And it makes the puzzle kind of easy to solve.
Alright, so far the candidates combined have spent $17 million on political ads just in the state of South Carolina.
Okay?
$17 million in TV and radio ads, South Carolina alone.
Here's how you solve the puzzle.
Of that $17 million spent in South Carolina, $14 million of it was spent by Tom Steyer.
Oh, that's how it works.
That, by the way, is the ISO. Tom Steyer has spent more on ads in South Carolina than Pete Buttigieg or Bernie Sanders has spent on ads nationwide for their entire campaign.
Same thing in Nevada, the other state that helped deliver Tom Steyer a surprise spot on the debate stage.
So far, there have been $11.6 million in total spent on political ads in Nevada by everybody.
Of that $11.6 million total spent on Nevada ads, $10.4 million of that spent by Tom Steyer.
His Nevada-only ad spending is more than all of the ad spending by Biden, Warren and Klobuchar combined nationwide.
Oh my gosh!
Can you see that juice?
Yes.
As it turns out...
Oh, and she's so shocked by this.
And it's a revelation to her.
It turns out that douchebag billionaires can buy your election, too.
This is how we vote in America.
The same when we buy our washing powder.
You see a lot of ads on TV and go, okay.
Tide.
Tide.
Stire.
Tide.
Sounds the same.
Whatever.
This must be driving people insane.
I mean, especially since we're dealing with the billionaire class, which is the Democrat Party.
Hello.
Here's the ISO for end of show I was considering.
Right.
Oh, that's how it works.
Perfect.
I think it's dynamite.
I sewed it myself before the show, knowing you'd like it that much.
So now we have a situation with all these guys, these rich guys running, and coincidentally, the Netflix special, The Great Hack, has arrived, and it...
Tells the story of Cambridge Analytics and how Trump won.
Let me stop you.
Two things.
One, I think it's been out for a couple weeks.
Two, it's Cambridge Analytica.
Yeah.
Okay.
You're right.
It's been out for a couple weeks and it's Cambridge Analytica.
Got it.
Now...
So they had the producers, or they had the co-directors, and then some other woman.
Her name is Brittany Kaiser, who's a whistleblower that worked for Cambridge.
And they had him on the Amy show, and there were some revelations in there that I thought would be worth discussing, because they do apply to what's going on with these elections.
There were Greek psychologists that were looking into...
Wait, wait, wait.
Sorry.
I thought there was a very clear pause and lead-up, and I jumped in.
No, I was getting my glasses.
I would say...
The one you want to play for, there's three clips.
There's the Britney Kaiser Cambridge, there's the Britney on Crooked Hillary, and there's the Complaining Co-Director, which are the three clips.
You probably were playing the right clip, which is, let's play Brittany Kaiser on Cambridge.
There were group psychologists that were looking into how they could understand that data and convert that into messaging that was just for you.
I need to remind everybody that the Trump campaign put together over a million different advertisements that were put out.
A million different advertisements with tens of thousands of different campaigns.
Some of these messages were for just you, were for 50 people, 100 people.
Obviously, certain groups are thousands, tens of thousands, or millions, but some of them were targeted very much directly at the individual to know exactly what you're going to click on and exactly what you care about.
Oh, no!
Don't tell...
Oh, no!
That is so unfair!
You can't do...
This woman who wrote the book...
She wrote the book Targeted, and she's moaning and groaning.
And she was working for Cambridge, and she was aghast by everything.
But she was apparently so predisposed to being aghast by everything that they – there was an event where they invited Ann Coulter to talk to him about something, rather.
And instead of sticking around, which I would do even if I was a Democrat – no, no, no.
She felt she had the need to bug out so she didn't have to hear whatever evil words might plant into her brain.
And I can't...
I'm looking at bingit.io.
I'm trying to see if I put it in show notes.
There was...
Someone did an analysis, and I think it was a Facebook person.
Maybe...
I'm just paraphrasing, I'll have to find it, was saying that in actuality, Cambridge Analytica was really shit, is really not good at what they do, have not done anything spectacular beyond what any other basic advertising targeting does.
But it still was the, I think this article said, you know, it was Brad Pascal who figured out what the messages should be, but it wasn't, you know, as highly targeted and sophisticated or even as good as people make Cambridge Analytica out to be.
Now, I have to find this, but I believe it.
I'm not going to argue that point.
I think this is going on constantly with everybody that's in the business of doing this sort of analysis, and Cambridge Analytical just, for some reason, I think it had something to do with Brexit, to be honest about it, got singled out.
So I agree with this.
It's bullcrap.
But let's listen to some of the stuff they did do that was funny.
Now, this is Brittany again.
On the Crooked Hillary campaign, this is fascinating.
Can you talk about the Crooked Hillary campaign and how it developed?
Absolutely.
So this started as a super PAC that was built for Ted Cruz, Keep the Promise One, which was run by Kellyanne Conway and funded by the Mercers.
That was then...
Hold on.
She worked at Cambridge Analytica?
Yes.
Britney.
Britney.
She's talking like a pundit.
I mean, she's not talking like someone who's being interviewed.
Well, she's on a book tour, and so she's picked up.
Oh, she wrote a book!
Okay, I got it.
...is run by Kellyanne Conway and funded by the Mercers.
That was then converted to becoming a super PAC for Donald Trump.
They tried to register with the Federal Election Commission the name Defeat Crooked Hillary, and the FEC luckily did not allow them to do that.
So it was called Make America No.
1.
This super PAC was headed by David Bossy, someone that you might remember from Citizens United, who basically brought dark money into our politics and allowed...
Oh, hold on a second.
Dark money.
We never had dark money in our politics before.
Nope, never happened.
Haven't seen it.
No.
It's racist, that dark money.
No, this is bullshit.
But I like it.
Brought dark money into our politics and allowed...
This was on Democracy Now?
Did Amy jump in and say, well, you know, obviously, dark money has been in our politics for a long time.
I mean, from day one, pretty much.
This is a total talking point, this woman.
So that we don't know where all of...
The money is coming from for these types of manipulative communications.
He was in charge of this campaign.
I'm sorry, this is great!
Manipulative communications.
What do you think?
That's what you do.
That's all communications.
All marketing is manipulation.
The money is coming from for these types of manipulative communications.
And he was in charge of this campaign.
Now, on that two-day-long debrief that I talked about, and if you want to know more, you can read about it in my book, they told us...
Explain where you were and who was in the room.
So, I was in New York, in our boardroom for Cambridge Analytica's office on Fifth Avenue, And all of our offices from around the world had called in to videocast.
And everybody from the Super PAC and the Trump campaign took us through all of their tactics and strategies and implementation and what they had done.
Now when we got to this Defeat Crooked Hillary Super PAC, they explained to us what they had done, which was to run experiments on psychographic groups to figure out what was working and what wasn't.
Unfortunately, what they found out was the only very successful tactic was sending fear-based, scaremongering messaging to people that were identified as being neurotic.
And it was so successful in their first experiments that they spent the rest of the money from the super PAC over the rest of the campaign only on negative messaging.
To neurotics.
Negative advertising.
Targeting neurotic.
I'd say it's a crime almost.
That is just, it's evil.
Evil, evil, evil.
She's flabbergasted by this.
These people were neurotic and you sent fear-mongering messages.
Whoa.
I mean, like clear and present danger.
The president is a clear and present danger.
Needs to be impeached immediately because who knows what he could do.
You mean like that?
Is that what you're talking about, Brittany?
I think.
There's something like that.
The guy's unhinged.
Yeah, just bend over.
Here it comes again for you, sir.
Clip of the day.
Well deserved.
Thank you.
Now we have a couple of others in that same group.
Now we have this guy, Kareem Amir.
And he talks, this is the one, let's do the, let's start with this one.
This is him, he's the complaining, the clip is complaining co-director.
Two people have come forward from Cambridge Analytica.
Why is that?
Both of the people that have come forward.
That's the other one.
That'll be the last clip.
The clip before that is a little lengthy, but it's more fascinating than anything so far.
And it's under the...
You have to look it up under L. L. Kareem Amir.
Yeah, gotcha.
All right.
And he talks about how they did some experiments in Trinidad...
No, Cambridge Analytica used brown people to conduct evil experiments with data, and they psychologically manipulated them.
I can't believe this is going on.
What is happening to the world?
Well, let's listen to this.
This is a very funny story.
I asked Kareem Amar to talk about what Cambridge Analytica effort to suppress the vote in Trinidad and Tobago did.
It was important for us to show in the film the expansiveness of Cambridge's work.
This went beyond the borders of the United States and even beyond the borders of the EU and the UK. Because what we find is that...
Cambridge, in pursuing this global influence industry that they were very much a part of, they used different countries as petri dishes to learn and get the know-how about different tactics.
And from improving those tactics, they could then sell them for a higher margin in Western democracies where the election budgets are...
We have to remember...
I think it's important to predicate that the election business has become multi-billion dollar global business, right?
So we have to remember that while we are upset with companies like Cambridge, we allowed for the commoditization of our democratic process, right?
So people are exploiting this now because it's become a business.
And we, as purveyors of this, can't really be as upset as we want to be when we've justified that.
So I want to preface it with that.
Now, that being said, what's happened as a result is a company like Cambridge can practice tactics in a place like Trinidad that's very unregulated in terms of what they can and can't do, learn from that know-how, and then parlay it into activities in the United States.
What they did in Trinidad, and why it was important for us to show it in the film, is they led something called the Do So Campaign.
Where they admit to making it cool and popular among youth to get out and not vote.
And they knew...
So you're the Indian population and the black population.
And the black population.
And there's a lot of historic tension between those two.
And a lot of generational differences as well between those two.
And the Do So campaign targeted...
was done in a way to...
By looking at the data and looking at the predictive analysis of which group would vote or not vote, get enough people to dissuade them from voting so that they could flip the election.
Targeted at?
Targeted at the youth.
And so this is really, when you watch...
Do so, actually, don't vote.
Yes, exactly.
With their fists crossed.
And that it became cool not to vote.
Exactly.
And you look at the level of calculation behind this, and it's quite frightening.
Do these people ever see an advertisement for anything, anywhere in their lives?
Now, this guy that was yakking away there, who's one of the co-directors, that guy was a blowhard.
And every time Amy would ask anybody else anything, he'd jump in before they could start talking.
And he liked to hear himself talk.
But the other woman, and this is what kind of got my attention, was this particular clip, which is the last clip.
And this is the other co-director woman, and she tells the story that It's slightly reminiscent.
This is the complaining co-director.
Two people have come forward from Cambridge Analytica.
Why is that?
Both of the people that have come forward, Brittany and Chris, and also with Carol's writing, have been targeted personally.
And it's been a very, very difficult story to tell.
Even with us, when we released the film in January, every single time we have entered into the country, we have been stopped for four to six hours of questioning at the border.
Stop by?
Stop by on the border of the U.S. in JFK Airport where you're taken into the back.
Ask for all of your social media handles.
Question for four to six hours every single time we enter the country.
Since when?
Since we released the film.
So since Sundance.
Since January.
Every time we've come back into the U.S. And on what grounds are they saying they're stopping you?
No explanation.
Yeah, it sounds a lot like me.
No.
This sounds like the cock and bull story we got from Laura Poitras, if you recall.
Oh, yes.
She and Scaffy were doing something, and it was always the same story.
It was never the guys telling this story.
It's always a woman, and they keep talking about getting pulled over, not Not like you go way back, but I'm talking about within the recent memory, the woman who's a co-director, producer, whatever, gets pulled over, coming in.
She can't say it's TSA. She's kind of confused.
Well, it would be Customs Border Patrol, not TSA. Well, if somebody pulls them out and then gives them a four-hour conversation, and it seems to me that this is canned.
It's the same Poitras.
It had almost identical story.
Now, is it possible they're getting pulled over?
But this was since January.
So let's take another look at this.
And Poitras, I think, had the same issues.
How many times since January of last year, I guess, are they in and out and in and out and in and out of the country?
And why?
Yeah.
What is she?
The movie's out.
You're on the road.
What she's doing is insinuating that Orange Man Bad has put his SS, Secret Heights Policai, on the case and is making sure that she's harassed every single time because, you know, get her.
We'll get her.
We'll get her, you whistleblower, you Cambridge Analytica whistleblower.
We'll get you.
We'll get you.
Yeah, I don't believe it.
That may be true.
I don't know.
It might be true, but I don't believe that it's got anything to do with Trump or something else that's causing it.
And the case with you is a good example, which has turned out to be a reasonably good reason, which was there's a guy with the same name as you that lived somewhere in the northern states.
Oklahoma.
I thought it was Montana.
No, I think it was Oklahoma, and he was also in aviation.
Yeah, that happened for a couple of years.
Yeah, the first couple years of the show, you would give us a rundown.
In fact, you even recorded one of the episodes, one of the moments where the guy's grilling you.
Yeah.
It was quite good.
Yes.
And I'm sure at the time I said, it's obvious, it's obvious the Obama administration wants to stifle me!
They're harassing me, John!
Well, all of this obviously leads to...
Just be OTG, people.
None of those mean messages can get to you.
They'll never be able to target you properly.
They won't know because it's your data.
You need to be responsible for it.
So don't make as much.
I've decided that's my new thing.
If you want to be safe, you want your data to stay safe, it's your data in the first place.
Don't make so much of it.
Which is why I have the fine Alcatel Go Flip 3 flip phone, which is functioning just nicely for me, for what I need to do.
All the other work is done still on Zoom.
So has Alcatel contacted you and said you want another one of these phones, or thanks for the plug?
No.
In fact, I bought another one for my stepdaughter.
She's OTG. She's way OTG. Oh, she liked it?
She liked your phone?
Oh, my God.
Now, this is Ellen.
This is not Elise's Ellen.
So this is...
She actually has recited Kaczynski to me.
And I take credit for it, believe me.
Now, so I bought a second one.
It's only, it's 70 bucks.
You know, it's very effective.
Battery lasts for a long time.
And by the way, I'm not creating a lot of data.
I run, you know, my Linux install.
It's still running.
Lubuntu.
Which is lightweight, it does exactly what I want, and nothing more.
And actually, that popped in my head today.
Back when we had DOS, we just had command line DOS, we had WordPerfect, And stuff worked.
It was fast.
It wasn't visual, of course.
But you could get stuff done pretty quickly.
You worked a lot more with DOS than I ever did.
But it was very effective.
You create batch files.
You could create little programs that did things.
And then we got visual with Windows 95.
And I believe since then, all these...
Actually, we got Windows 1 and 2.
3.1 is probably where it began.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
3.1.
You're right.
I remember running NT 3.1.
That was the hot shit OS, man.
You want to be cool.
But what's happened is we have every application that you have on your computer, and the operating system itself is continuously doing crap in the background.
If it's not looking, pinging for updates and do I need to notify...
And it's just sucking up all this computing power.
That's why you have to have faster and faster computers because everybody, you know, the OS, if Windows, it's updating in the background.
It's sharing part of it with other things on your network.
It's sending stuff back to Microsoft, information, information.
You know, it's almost like the screensavers back in the day.
A screensaver would kick in and it would, you know, your computer wasn't doing anything, but if it was like a rendering, it would use up computer resources.
This is happening all the time inside your computer.
It's always doing stuff.
It's re-indexing.
It's making your life easier.
But it's not really.
It's just slowing down the machine.
Anyway, make less data.
And don't give it away to people like 23andMe.
You paid for the privilege, and now 23andMe sold the rights to a drug it developed thanks to its genetic database and your data.
And you're not getting the cut of it.
Can you believe this?
People are so stupid.
Government-funded Android phones.
Apparently, that's the Obama phone.
Comes with pre-installed and unremovable malware.
Of course!
Why wouldn't we be spying on you?
Of course it does.
You gotta spy on those poor people.
And my favorite, Ring Doorbell confirms it fired four employees for watching customer videos.
Are we surprised?
No!
But instead of reporting on this atrocity of Silicon Valley spying on you, no way.
CBS Austin, they'll run a native ad.
We weren't getting the ring notifications.
Little did Arturo Guerra know, those notifications would show this man, Henry Ludwig, breaking into his home.
Guerra was on a cruise with his family for Christmas and had spotty Wi-Fi, so he was not able to access his video while out at sea.
He didn't look until a day later when his neighbor called him to say they see a car that did not belong to them in their driveway.
On the drive back home, they looked at the video before calling police.
You're seeing him kind of look at the front door initially and look for like a secret key.
He's obviously looking in the window, seeing if anybody's home, trying to get in.
The only thing you see on the ring towards the last clips is he's coming out of the front door and he's got some of my clothes on, which is sort of interesting.
Ludwig was caught on camera over a three hour stretch in the early morning hours the day after Christmas.
He broke a window of Gara's garage, and after taking some personal items, also stole his mother-in-law's car.
Obviously, it just feels incredibly violating, and everyone's kind of nervous and on edge, and it had never happened.
You know, it's a nice neighborhood.
We're at the long, dead-end cul-de-sac, so we never thought...
All right, so I'm just going to pause it here.
It's almost done, because this is the setup.
This is...
By the way, Cambridge Analytica lady, this is how manipulative things are sometimes in marketing.
It's how it works.
So we're going to give you this human interest story.
You feel really bad that people are on a cruise.
They didn't get their ring doorbell notification because they had spotty Wi-Fi, which means they're never taking a cruise again ever.
But we have to do something.
What can we do to help solve these problems?
Our house would be that kind of a target.
It was pretty unusual, but it's frightening at first.
It's funny now.
Ludwig left behind some of his own belongings, including his driver's license, and is now behind bars facing home burglary and unauthorized use of vehicle charges.
Garrett got the car back, but does not think he will get back all of the items Ludwig stole.
Now, Garrett says when he hears that notification from his Ring app...
He will look and see what's at his door.
We've set up more ring cameras now just to...
More!
...to kind of have a little better view of the overall front of the house.
And particularly at night, it's a little...
Now it's sort of the chime is alarming.
You know, it just sort of jolts your system.
He's got more ring doorbell videos.
He's got to play the chime.
So I know what it sounds like.
This is so despicable.
Well, you know what's really...
What gets me is that same old bromide with a guy...
Unless they misheard it, left his driver's license behind so they could find him?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sounds really believable.
We hear this story on a lot of these clips where, you know, the terrorist in Paris at the Hebdo operation, you know, the guy leaves his driver's license on the street.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
It's one driver's license.
These driver's license...
I don't know.
I've never just casually left my driver's license someplace, especially if I'm robbing the place, although I don't rob places.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
No idea.
Anyway, yes, that was a native ad.
I caught a couple of weird native ads of late that were convoluted, but they're always native ads.
Anything good?
No, not on this list.
I got some new reports of more complaining.
There's this Australian, there's a bunch of, I don't know if the guy's a Nazi or what he is, but there's a rally against immigration going on and these Australians are meeting up and bitching and moaning.
I got a weird clip somebody sent me of this guy.
He's on a bullhorn moaning and groaning and he's got a huge audience.
And it sounds like a fascist, but they have Australian flags.
There's no fascist flags like we would use.
Why don't you play that?
What this is here is this government's worst fear.
Yeah!
What this is, is Australian workers united against their own plights.
Recognising their own ethnic replacement.
Recognising a problem.
Recognising a corruption.
An institutional corruption.
All of you here know that our country is under attack.
We see it every day.
We feel it when we travel to work.
We are so congested.
Our population is growing so rapidly.
Our infrastructure cannot cope.
Greedy private capital is filling our country with as many cheap immigrants as possible.
Right?
Because they'll live in smaller spaces.
They'll work for less.
They won't think and they won't complain.
You think too much.
You think for yourselves.
You think for your families.
You demand a higher state of living.
And that is against their interests.
That's why this crime, whether it's violent crime, Terrorism.
Whatever comes from these immigrants, you're not supposed to talk about it.
Because these immigrants are the perfect global citizens.
Sounds a bit like someone who would have been from Europe, EU possibly.
I mean, that's the same kind of talk they have over there.
Yeah, this is going on.
It should be noted.
Don't know what to make of it personally yet.
No.
If you don't have anything...
I have a bunch of things.
Well, then I'd like you to take us into one more, and then I've got something that we need to deconstruct, which is a little longer.
Okay.
I can go on a flyer right here and give you my early prediction for who's going to be the vice presidential candidate if Joe Biden is chosen, which I believe he will be because...
His name's John Cooper, a real Democrat hack, but a voice of the establishment, who's a Twitter guy.
We follow each other.
And he has made the claim that Biden's going to win for that.
He has the reasons.
And Biden appears to be the guy they're just going to pick because he's on the list.
He's on the waiting list.
He's going to get picked.
Who is he going to pick for vice president?
And so I went through the list.
Trying to find who the possibilities are.
I presume that my pick is not yours.
Yours is Stacey Abrams.
I think Stacey Abrams is a plant.
Intelligence plant of some sort.
I thought you meant actual vegetation.
She might be.
I look at her bio.
I have a dossier on her.
You have a dossier.
Wait a minute.
You have the Abrams dossier.
I like it.
Is that in Microsoft OneNote?
Everything is just something really, you know, how does she get on everything?
She has very few accomplishments, but yet she's picked for everything.
She's on everything.
She could be, I think that a lot of people think she is the number one of the candidates for VP. I personally like the idea of, and the Democrats have always been successful when they've used a ticket that is, has a broader range from East Coast to West Coast, and she's an East Coast person, even though she's from Georgia.
So she can say she's from the South.
And she could maybe bring the black vote.
But Biden's not the one suffering from, you know, black nihilism.
I mean, Buttigieg won't get any black votes.
Warren might not get any black votes.
But I think Biden, because he worked for Obama, will get the black vote.
So they don't need a black candidate.
Right.
And Cory Booker, I think, also is out because he's from the same region, geographical region.
So I'm looking to the West Coast.
And who on the West Coast is?
There's a dark horse.
And if you look at the list of pictures, you'll find her name.
You've never heard of her.
And I started looking into her.
She is quite the character, and she matches a number of criteria.
It's a woman.
So you get that little balance.
Now, the Democrats have to know that the woman as a vice presidential candidate has been unsuccessful before, but they're expecting it's going to have to work one of these days.
And it's a 5'1", very strange person named Luann Grisham, Michelle Luann Grisham.
She is the governor, a governor.
So she has executive experience, unlike Stacey Abrams.
She has executive experience.
She's the governor of New Mexico.
And she is a real character.
In fact, I have a clip of one of her ads.
She did an ad when she ran.
She was a congresswoman, and then she ran for governor and got it easily because she kicks ass because she has radical ideas for how to do advertising.
She's crawling around here and there, and she's, in this case, flying around town in rollerblades.
And this is the Grisham and the rollerblades story that took place in the local news coverage in New Mexico.
It's hard to ignore.
If you've seen the campaign ad of the rollerblading congresswoman, you probably have an opinion.
News 13's Catherine Mazzone asked her campaign about it, and New Mexicans, what they think about it.
Catherine?
Jessica, it's one of three ads Michelle Lujan Grisham released this election season.
And reps say it's by far the most unique.
And that's the point.
They say they want the ad to stick in voters' minds.
And many of the ones we spoke to say it does.
People say I'm always moving.
Politics aside, plenty have something to say about Michelle Lujan Grisham's latest campaign act.
That was different for sure.
Especially if you're running for Congress, you don't expect to see that.
It's really corny, but I should appreciate that.
Better than the negative stuff.
The congresswoman received a lot of feedback online, too.
Most of it positive.
We felt like this would be something memorable if pulled off.
Gilbert Gallegos is Grisham's spokesperson.
He says he doesn't know of many politicians who could pull off an ad like this.
This is a very fun and positive ad, but still reflects her accomplishments and her personality.
While they admit it's different.
She's out there Being active and it's not just a stuffy suit.
Some are left scratching their heads.
Why rollerblades?
Yeah, why do that?
The rollerblades were actually her idea.
The cop car, ambulance and military plane raised others' eyebrows.
I'm sure she had permission to do that, right?
Turns out Grisham was never on base for this ad.
Gallego says they were actually on a private runway nearby.
Our producers got one shot at it and she took off on the rollerblades and did it in one take with the plane taking off.
So it wasn't anything we planned or knew it was going to be coming.
Gallego says the police car and the ambulance were rented props.
Volunteers actually drove them.
Back to you, Jessica.
All right.
Thank you, Catherine.
We contacted Grisham's opponents in the congressional race.
Republican Richard Preem, but did not hear back.
Now, she is Latinx?
She's Latinx.
She's also Native American.
What?
She's in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, and she's also in the Native American Caucus.
Wow.
So she's got a lot She is pretty much the perfect down-the-line Democrat, but she's got a lot of spunk, and she's got really interesting, radical ideas for campaigning, and she's a fire.
She's just a hot—she's hot in terms of her—you know, she doesn't put up with anything.
She's a perfect candidate for VP. And I think she could bring the Hispanic vote in and it would help Biden a lot.
And I don't think it's going to, it would be a very, it's the biggest plus he could get for a VP that would make things kind of interesting.
Right.
So that's my prediction.
The problem with your prediction, which I like, I've never heard of her.
I think calling someone who has spunk is probably the heightest.
I think short people are the ones that have spunk.
You know, you're a little twerp, you spunky.
So that is definitely heightest.
Gosh.
I mean, the problem is, I'm still waiting for Hillary to be the nominee, and now you've switched to Joe Biden, you know, kind of underhandedly.
Well, I'm not...
I still have not pulled my Hillary prediction.
But I'm saying if Joe Biden, and I made it clear that if Joe Biden is the candidate, which I believe he will be, if Hillary doesn't jump in because of Cooper saying he will be, I believe he is going to be, and he's going to have to pick somebody.
And I don't think he's going to pick any of his competitors, so anybody who saw up on stage with him.
I mean, nobody that I know of has ever done that.
They never pick a guy that they debated against.
Right.
I mean, Pence wasn't debating against Trump.
No, no.
She's also a tri-delt.
Yeah, yeah, she's a tri-delt.
You caught that.
Yes.
Delta, delta, delta.
I don't know if that's good, good, good.
But, okay, well, that's reasonable.
Although, I still...
What I see is the black vote is in play.
And it's not...
Yes, Joe is a safe choice, but if Joe doesn't win...
Which I really think...
I'm not so sure he's going to make it.
Like, physically going to make it.
Mentally going to make it to the end.
No, I'm not being a dick about it.
There's the possibility of him dropping dead on the campaign trail.
That would be screw-up the election.
Yeah, it's a day-wrecker.
But my point is...
Keep them alive.
They know how to do that.
No matter who becomes VP, the assumption is that person will become president because Joe will never make it through four years.
Yes, and having someone who's a governor with executive experience as opposed to somebody who never got to that, including Stacey Abrams, is a plus.
You want somebody with executive experience.
You don't just want some legislative-type person.
They don't know how to run anything.
They just know how to vote for bills.
She looks the business, though.
She looks like she could kick your ass and get something done.
She does look like that.
Yeah, she does.
But I also think Klobuchar has a bit of that look.
And she's still in the race.
How is it possible?
Yes, but Klobuchar has no executive experience whatsoever.
She ate her salad with her comb.
That is just...
It will never leave my memory.
I like that.
I like that.
I like what she did there.
She's also a mean-spirited person, supposedly, and I don't like Klobuchar at all.
I can't imagine a bite in Klobuchar.
I mean, even Klobuchar on the bumper sticker, it doesn't work.
Grisham's a good name.
It's a good American-sounding name, even though she apparently goes back to pre-Columbian times.
But...
Biden Grisham is a good look.
I think Biden Abrams is a good sound too, but I don't think that's going to happen.
Biden Booker?
Eh, not so much.
You've got to think of the bumper sticker.
You're listening to a podcast, ladies and gentlemen.
Podcasting is apparently hot, hot, hot.
And, of course, we're still looking for our exit.
Which is apparently not going to happen.
Because no one has any good ideas that we can fulfill.
But Goldman Sachs did a report.
I'm sorry.
Not Goldman Sachs.
Morgan Stanley did a report on podcasting and podcast monetization.
And I figured we would have a listen to this as the Morgan Stanley guy dropped by on CNBC. This is obviously a financial channel.
He's a famous podcaster, right?
Yeah.
And obviously they didn't interview me.
They didn't interview anybody, but the guy doesn't need to interview anybody because he knows the business because he's been in the business.
He knows the business.
And I will say, as an aside, Hill& Knowlton did reach out to me and did interview me for a report they are doing for their client, Spotify.
And I thought that would be fun to do.
And I appreciated...
And by the way, it wasn't the American Hill& Knowlton.
No, of course not.
It was the Swedish Hill in Knowlton.
And they're doing a report for their client, who was in Sweden, and they actually called me and said, can we ask you a few questions?
Since you mentioned, could I have a quick aside, because I'm going to forget to mention this, because I don't have any clips on it, but apparently in Sweden...
Swedish Airlines are complaining because now there's a thing called flight shaming.
Thank you, Greta.
If you go on an airplane, you can be shamed.
You went on an airplane.
Anyway.
I'll take the boat to Los Angeles.
You and Roger McGuinn will.
So CNBC gets this jamoke on, and maybe I should just preface that in 2005, I built a podcast network of companies, of shows, and we had the model that pretty much everybody else has.
Now, typical Adam Curry fashion, 10 years too early, almost 15 years too early, no exit like the gimlets of the world, etc.
But the question is, where's the money?
Is this a bubble?
And it is my belief that you cannot monetize the network.
And when I say that, in this case, specifically a podcast network cannot be monetized.
The main reason being that Dave Weiner and I set this up on an open format, open standard, RSS. Nobody owns it.
The first thing I did in particular was...
Incentivize and support, and through the Daily Source Code, work with engineers and software developers around the world to build what we now call podcatchers or podcast apps.
Apple has the most used one.
Personally, I think that a lot of people like Overcast, but there's many other apps.
Because of the open nature, no one has been able to own podcasting.
You want to talk about video?
YouTube owns it.
A number of reasons for that.
But they also had the flash technology very early on and owned that.
Podcasting is not owned by anybody.
Apple does not own podcasting.
I don't see any indication they want to own it, but they do want people to use their devices and software while enjoying it.
Spotify is the one with a distant second Pandora who are trying to become all things podcasting.
So we'll listen to this report.
We'll probably stop it to discuss a few things because, of course, as you'd expect, it's utterly stupid.
What is behind the big boost that podcasts are getting, not just Apple versus Spotify, but anywhere you get your podcasts, which is what they say on the pad.
So right off the bat, this woman doesn't, she thinks that Apple owns podcasting, that Apple has podcasts, where Spotify, you actually have to give them permission to stream your podcast on their app.
Podcasts.
Yeah, well, thanks for having me, Contessa.
Yeah, look, the audio market is highly competitive because it's growing.
Consumers are engaging more and more.
And we think 2019, we saw about 100 million users in the United States streaming.
But almost 50% of smartphone users are now in subscription streaming.
So it's a big market and there's a lot of focus on it.
One way to differentiate your product is by investing in podcasts.
And so there's been an explosion of podcasts available to consumers.
And there's been a lot of investment by Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and others to try to bring more podcasts to the consumer and for Spotify.
Okay, let's stop for a second.
I don't know what this guy is talking about, about investment.
I mean, yes, Apple has a team.
I don't know if that's an investment.
He's making a lot of assumptions here, and it's not because they want to diversify.
Spotify has a big problem.
Their costs follow their usage.
When you listen to one song, one stream, there's a cost associated with that to them that they have to pay to the publisher, record company, etc., the PRO, whatever their deal is.
So they're looking for anything, anything they can own, that doesn't have a per-play usage fee.
That's the reason, Morgan Stanley.
You know, this is really important.
This is where they compete.
Apple's a massive company, does a lot of things incredibly well for Spotify.
It's all about audio, and so they've made podcasts incredibly important to their strategy.
Listening has reportedly ticked up to 4.4 hours weekly.
Apple says it has 800,000 podcasts.
How do you differentiate your service to advertisers?
Oh, right away!
There's no other way to do it.
We gotta do ads!
Yeah, look, I mean, I think one of the challenges in audio, whether it's music or podcasts, is generally content is not exclusive.
You mentioned the Netflix-Apple competition.
There you have exclusive programming.
That's not as easy in the audio space.
So it's really about discovery.
You just mentioned how many podcasts there are.
How do people like you and I figure out what to listen to?
Do you think they really did some research on this?
Because this is the same lie that I heard 15 years ago.
It's about discovery, man, because no one can discover it.
We need to discover it.
It's bullcrap.
People have no trouble finding things.
They hear about it from their friends.
It's not the front page of Apple that matters.
It's not whatever podcast portal of Google or Amazon.
People hear about it from their friends.
It's how it's always gone.
By the way, it's how it works with music too.
You people have no power over promoting this stuff.
It's really senseless.
And so curation and discovery and the user interface, that's really where the differentiation is increasingly showing up.
And again, I think our survey suggests that for the first time, Spotify has moved past Apple as the most popular platform for podcast consumption.
And podcast premium users actually consume over five hours a week of podcasts.
So you're seeing their consumer base actually even more engaged.
Last hour we were just talking about one trillion music streams last year, which surely is a record.
If streaming music is seeing a boost and podcasts are seeing this big boost, who's losing out?
Well, probably sleep would be one thing.
Generally speaking.
Look, there's probably some cannibalization of music consumption because of the rise of podcasts.
But the big tailwinds here, Contessa, are smartphone adoption, unlimited data plans.
This is a global phenomenon.
Increasingly smart speakers.
We think almost a third of U.S. homes now have smart speakers.
And eventually connected cars.
So we're more connected than ever, which allows for more content consumption.
And that's growing the pie overall.
So, explain to me briefly, Ben, if you could, the money machine here.
I'm just going to stop.
Just on that.
The money machine.
What do you think, John?
What do you think the extrapolation here is of the money machine?
Carbonite.
The money machine here.
I get how the podcast producer makes money.
She or he or they sell advertising that is either dropped into the podcast or bumpers it on either end.
But how does Spotify and Apple make money from this?
Yeah, it's a very good question and one that investors are highly focused on.
And I think the answer is today, they're not.
In fact, while podcasts are not new, monetization of podcasts really is just beginning.
How long have we heard this?
How long have we heard it's just beginning, the monetization of podcasts?
Tell me.
Well, I would say probably since 2000, before you started Pod Show, so probably around 2003, so at least 15, 16, I'd say 17 years, close to 17 years, at least 15 years.
Yes, it's happening now.
It's...
We did this 15 years ago.
We saw that it wouldn't work, you idiots.
Podcasts are not new.
Monetization of podcasts really is just beginning.
And it's an advertising-supported platform in general where the artist or entertainer is reading an ad, which is pretty old school.
But you're just starting to see, for example, Spotify announced some streaming advertising insertion technology at CES this week.
We had this, what, 13 years ago?
Dynamically inserted ads...
Advertisers don't want to be a part of it.
They don't want the risk.
They do not want their ad showing up on a podcast where someone might say poop or something else they don't like or I don't know Trump.
It's not going to work.
They don't want it and even if they did people who hate that podcast and there's a lot of them We'll go after the advertisers and say these guys are shit and the advertisers walk away for the same reason.
It is no longer a model, Morgan Stanley, CNBC. So we're starting to see more and more investment in the tech behind it to make it a more monetizable audience.
It's a highly engaging media, so I think the opportunity is there, but we're just getting started.
There are some small subscription services that are ad-free, but I'd emphasize the word small today.
Paul Harvey was really ahead of his time, wasn't he?
Paul Harvey was ahead of his time?
What does that mean?
Well, I guess they're assuming that Paul Harvey, who was self-syndicated and got paid for these different radio stations that brought Paul Harvey these little news snippets, We had something like podcasting to this woman.
This woman doesn't know what she's...
No, she really doesn't know what she's talking about.
But the guy from Morgan Stanley is just as clueless.
Well, I thought he was an old pro!
They're making the same assumptions and the same mistakes we've seen go on.
People have to make new assumptions and new mistakes.
That's the way I see it.
Well, we've made lots of mistakes.
Our assumption is it's not going to work.
We could not do the show we want to do.
It would not be interesting enough if we had advertisements.
And if we did...
Even then, it would still be the Tommy John's, me, undies, square space, Casper mattress of the world because that's the margins of advertising.
You can always get that.
If you want, if you want to restrict what you do, if you want to be like that.
I think you should replay the Peter Griffin clip from last show.
Oh, that's a good idea.
What is it?
Family Guy is the name of the show.
Family Guy.
Okay, here we go.
Family Guy.
Peter, we have got to prove Lois is innocent.
That's right.
And the best way to crack any high-profile crime case is to do a podcast before you have all the facts.
Okay.
And the key to any podcast is poor sound quality and tons of commercials.
All right, we've got Lois calling in from prison.
She's only got three minutes.
Thanks for looking at my case, guys.
You bet, Lois.
My first question is, do you get a good night's sleep?
No, because I'm in prison and my cellmate is bipolar.
Well, if you get a Casper mattress now, you have a hundred days to decide if it's the right mattress for you.
Peter.
I don't have time for underwear that bunches up.
That's why I wear me undies.
Perfect underwear for hanging yourself in your jail cell.
Can we talk about the case?
I have 30 seconds before they haul me off to the freaking cafeteria.
Sounds like you could use Blue Apron.
Have you ever wanted to receive a vegetable in the mail?
Then you need Blue Apron.
I'm like obsessed with the stir fry.
Brian here likes the Moroccan beef.
I have no opinion on the Moroccan beef, Peter.
Brian, this is not art.
This is commerce.
Peter, before I go, I need a new lawyer.
This one made a sexual pass at me.
Oh boy, everyone knows hiring is a nightmare.
At least it was before ZipRecruiter.
ZipRecruiter, we vastly overestimate how many podcast listeners are in a position to hire someone.
Alright, so to wrap this up, I would like to say that I am a believer in our model and I love how well it has worked and continues to work because 12 years is nothing to be sneezed at.
We have an incredible community of producers who...
Understand the value-for-value concept and understand that this show is produced with many hands and a lot of hands doing a lot of work, including financial contributions.
The only thing that, and this, by the way, is our exit strategy, the only way to exit is to sell the whole kit and caboodle to the next idiot up the line.
Well, I think they can do it.
I think, first of all, you have a negative attitude.
But you're overlooking something, and I think it should be pointed out.
Which is when you mentioned Discovery and how the reason our show got to where it is, which has got a lot of listeners, and a lot of it's word of mouth, but Discovery used to be with music, which kind of ended during the Napster era, used to be the radio.
Yep.
Because you'd listen to songs on the radio, and there was even the payola days where people would pay to have the songs done.
We have the No Agenda stream.
Exactly.
Our choices of the best podcasts that you can listen to on a streaming basis, and if you could jerry-rig it up just right, you can have it just streaming in your car as you're driving around.
And the No Agenda Stream is a good example of, I don't know anybody else doing that, and that's really the future of the whole thing, it seems to me, which are these channels of...
Podcasts, which is what we have.
Even if you go to one of the networks, these podcast networks, they don't have a channel of podcasts.
They just have a bunch of them.
They have an array.
There's a difference between an array of shows and a stream of shows.
We're the only ones that pioneered the stream of shows.
And if I may add, when you go to the stream, if you go there on noagendastream.com, you're in there.
In a chat room with people who are also recommending things.
I mean, it's a whole ecosystem.
I think we've cracked it.
And I like that we have other shows who are also taking donations.
I don't think we have a single show that has any ads in their episodes.
We ban that, I think, from the get-go.
I don't think anyone does that.
Lots of people who are on the stream have value-for-value propositions, and it's working.
Long story short, take your money out of Morgan Stanley.
Those guys are idiots.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
Well, after all that self-promotion, we have a very short list today.
Starting with Christopher Pythoud, I think.
In Buckeye, Arizona, came in at $111.11, followed by Ron Van Dyke in Holland, $100.
Richard Hillenbrand, 80.06, which is the lopsided boob.
Matthew Mungen, 69.
Maurice DeHaas in Den Haag, 55.
55.
Anthony Rodriguez in Tucson, Arizona, 55-10.
Andrew Gardner has got a birthday coming up, 55-10.
He's got something.
Happy birthday.
It'll be up.
It'll come in, come in, come in.
Amber Simpson, 55-10.
Sir Mike in Ewing, New Jersey, 54-65, 4-6-7.
73s, by the way.
KD2, FDX. 73s, K5ACC. Robert Kerbeck in Essexville, Michigan, $50.
The following people are $50 donors.
Roy Tenhava in Pynocker, Holland.
Very good.
Sir Labrad...
Well, he continues to donate, so he'll probably stop now.
Eventually you'll get it right.
I should be...
Sorry, I'm screwing up.
Let me do it right.
Roy Tenhave in Pinjacker.
He'll have to support us again to get it right.
Sir Lab Rat of the Texas Hill Country.
You want to read this note?
I think it's interesting.
As I continue to share the show with my family, there's one thing I found that really brings my Gen Z-aged human resource to the table.
It's the No Agenda animated show.
This is what's on YouTube.
You just search No Agenda Animated.
These clips are short, well-produced, and have the perfect amount of punch-em-in-the-mouth, as we say, hit-em-in-the-mouth, and draws these Gen Z kids into the No Agenda family.
I would like to add my daughter, Anika.
I think it is.
Anika?
I have squiggly lines here.
Yeah, I don't know.
I can't see it either.
To the Dame Drive list, there's nothing better than educating the next generation on the importance of keeping one's amygdala at a healthy size.
Thanks to both of you and fellow producers.
For my daughter, could you please play John Brenner's OK Boomer?
Bless you.
Sorry.
And Goat Karma.
Oh, John's...
John Brennan.
John's OK Boomer.
Jeez.
Oh, bless you again.
Let's see what we can fix that.
OK Boomer, OK Boomer, it's OK with you, it's OK with me.
OK Boomer, OK Boomer, it's OK Boomer.
Yeah.
Shut that baby up.
Thank you, Sir Labrad of Texas Hill.
Yes, I agree.
Dame Jennifer does a great job on Animated No Agenda.
And I get the same response.
My daughter, who really hasn't listened in a long time, has started listening again after I had to show her the Animated No Agenda.
And she laughed and said, oh, this is good.
And now they're listening.
So, you're right.
It's perfect for this generation.
Sad to say.
Yeah, really.
Robert Decanay is up on the list.
These are all $50 donors, name and location, Fairfax, Virginia.
Rossin Tachkov in London, UK. Kimberly Redmond in Toronto, Ontario.
Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas.
And that's it.
Boom, done.
Very short list today.
Hopefully things start to pick up as the year progresses.
Yeah, we do hope so, indeed.
Since we have a few moments, I went to the P.O. Box.
I want to thank a dude named Ben Onimus for sending me the copy of Reason Magazine.
They had a really nice spread on Mobile Loaves and Fishers community.com.
First Village.
And let me see.
He's a big fan of Seronimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
In fact, he says he's adopted him as his no-agenda spiritual father because, he says, oh, this is sweet, just as you had to say goodbye to your dad last month, I had to bury my own biological father earlier this summer, and I still miss him terribly.
I love hearing John read Sir Anonymous' incredibly well-reasoned and code-sprinkled missives every few weeks.
I assume he's not just a highly skilled spook, but probably a well-heeled world traveler.
I can only fantasize that he might welcome me as the spiritual son he's never met, and someday deem me worthy to be included in his will.
Yeah, we all want that.
And then...
I think it was anonymous, but I got two great books.
I love books.
Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops, and the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream.
Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon.
You ever heard of this book?
No, but I don't know if it has anything to do with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
It's probably similar.
I've seen that one.
Yeah, I'm thinking of the movie.
And the other book is by Lincoln Lawrence, Were We Controlled?
The Assassination of President Kennedy.
That should be interesting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I love getting books.
Thank you very much.
And thank you to our producers who supported us today on our journey.
We need to do better, for sure, especially after that whole rap I gave about how stupid the podcast advertising business is.
Don't make us look bad.
But the people who do support us, also those under $50 who come in for anonymity many times, was $49.99, but also are on our programs.
Our subscription programs, they help, particularly on days like this.
So we encourage everybody to sign up for one of those.
And if you got any value out of today's show, did the analysis help you?
Did it make you feel calmer about the state of the world?
What's that worth to you?
Put it into numbers and send it off to us.
Details at dvorak.org.
I have a request from Sir Chris Wilson from Down Under.
I just left my friend's studio.
He had some session work playing bass.
Sadly, I don't have anything for you today.
Tomorrow I'll be programming my asterisk system.
Chris is a crazy guy.
A small favor.
Kylie, that's his keeper, Kylie's old school friend Leone needs an F cancer and some goat karma.
They found spots on her liver and she starts chemo on Monday.
Yes, and we had a couple other, one or two for Neil Peart, of course, and F Cancer, and some Jobs Karmas.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Karma.
Yeah, yeah, no surprise.
Yeah, yeah, no surprise.
Short list for that as well.
But we say happy bladed birthday.
No, happy birthday, in fact, to Justin Edelman.
33, the magic number for him today.
Sir Ray Jacobson of Ashland, Virginia, will be celebrating his 58th trip around the sun tomorrow.
And Andrew Gardner says happy birthday to his daughter, Michalina, who is celebrating today, I believe.
Happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
Well, it's been a few shows, but we do have a nighting to take care of.
Uh, show?
I'll grab this blade here.
Ooh, yeah, that's the short one.
But it'll work.
It's good.
I got mine here.
Perfect.
Up on the podium, please!
Sean!
That's right, Sean.
Thanks to the support.
$1,000 or more to the No Agenda show.
You now are able to join the Knights and Dames of our No Agenda Roundtable.
You've got a name to go with that, so I'm going to pronounce the KD as follows.
Sir Shaskashinnison, Gitmo Knight of the Living Skies.
I think this was gifted to him.
Well-deserved hookers and blow, rent poison, chardonnay, cricket chirps, and LSD for the round table for you, along with vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, and of course, mutton and mead.
And you are now a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
And please go to noagendanation.com slash rings, fill out a short little survey there, and we'll get everything off to you as soon as possible.
And again, thank you for your support in producing the No Agenda Show.
No Agenda!
It's like a party!
Wow.
The party blowing out my ear.
Yes, we have a meetup report to start with.
This is the meetup from Long Island.
Our first meetup in Long Island.
Tom Starkweather.
You know him well.
Tom has done work for the No Agenda show producing in Manhattan.
He also does quite a few end-of-show mixes along with his clearly better half, Alexis.
Yes, I want to say Alexis.
And they recorded their meetup the way they should do.
We're coming to you from Long Island, the first Long Island meetup with host Andrew Grasso.
Yeah, we hope to have many more.
One-time executive producer here.
Hope to do that many more times as well, and great time.
I'm Tom Starkweather, and you are...
I'm Josine.
I am Andrew's wife.
I'm seven months pregnant, so expecting our first child in two months, and I would love some goat karma.
Hi, hello world.
I'm here, Edgar, in St.
James.
Not the walk, but we're gonna get there.
Hey, I'm Mike, the boy from Bushwick, and I'm really glad to be out here in the town.
Hi, I'm Alex.
You might know Alex from the station ID. In the morning.
In the morning!
Yes, I meant, of course, Alex, not Alexis.
Alex.
Let me throw that goat karma out right away.
That was a good request.
You've got karma.
All right, here's what's coming up.
Meetups in the future.
Now, Mimi sent me what I have, so...
The first upcoming one is the 16th, Thursday.
That makes sense.
And that'll be in Austin, the Austin Local 512 Docks Backyard in Sunset Valley, 7 o'clock in the evening.
This will be the first meetup since the meet-shoot event.
And Sir Scott Baronet of the No Agenda Armory is hoping we can get some photos and share some stories from the event.
And additionally, they'll be taking a collection for the show with a goal to gain a group associate producer credit.
This coming Friday, we have the Charlotte Meetup No.
2, 7 o'clock in the evening as well.
Sycamore Brewing, look for the large crackpot and buzzkill heads.
Bile Cameron organizing that.
Now there's a change on the New York City Meetup.
It'll now be 5 o'clock, and this is Athena and Alex are organizing.
Join us in the afternoon in the heart of the city of swollen amygdala.
For much-needed post-holiday mid-winter relief and joyous camaraderie.
That will be at the Lorelei Beer Garden.
And again, it was 2 o'clock, and now it is 5 p.m.
on Saturday.
Also on Saturday, Flight of the No Agenda on the other coast in Los Angeles.
That will be at 2 p.m.
That will be right near LAX, I believe.
It's the Proud Bird Food Bazaar.
Bring your appetites and thirst, says Leo Bravo.
Next Saturday, No Agenda Tune Man Tour continues.
This is Jesse Coy Nelson.
He will be in the Amigo Pub in Amman, Jordan.
Please, if you are anywhere near, please join this meetup.
That would be spectacular.
Again, Saturday the 18th in the Amigo Pub in Amman, Jordan.
Nashville will be celebrating its six-week cycle on that Saturday as well.
Make sure you go to noagendameetups.com to get all the information.
On the horizon, I'll just give you a quick list.
Moscow in Russia on the 25th.
East Westminster, Massachusetts also on the 25th.
Atlanta, Georgia.
On the 25th, then on the 26th, Alexandria, Virginia, Philly.
At the end of the month, Colorado Springs.
And remember, on February 21st, the Keeper and I will be at Delray Beach in Florida, and we're looking forward to seeing everybody there at the meetup.
Noagendameetups.com is where we can get all the information.
We can find out what meetups are happening near you.
If you can't find one, start one.
It's a great place to get to know people, hang out, non-triggering conversation, and meet children from other lands.
It's good for you.
It's good for your amygdala, good for your health.
Sounds good.
Yes.
When are you going to another one next?
I think we're going to try to organize that Silicon Valley one pretty soon.
Oh, okay.
Good.
Now, I have a couple of clips.
I have a series of clips, but I have one clip that's kind of standalone.
It has to be played because it's got two plus marks.
That means it's funny.
Yes.
And this really makes me wonder.
I really am fearful of Especially since the 787 Dreamliner fiasco, where they outsourced everything and it became impossible to make the plane.
It finally got it off the ground.
Whoa!
Oh, did Boeing just issue a strike?
No, that was my mic.
I don't think for some reason.
Podcasts are down.
So I've been very worried about Boeing, and this is the report that Democracy Now!
produces.
I never heard – I heard some of these snippets, but this presentation by Amy I think was the best.
The inquiry into the plane crash in Tehran comes as the jet's manufacturer, Boeing, is facing even more scrutiny over its troubled 737 MAX jet.
As released, internal emails show Boeing employees talking about deceiving federal regulators and joking about potential safety flaws in the plane's design ahead of the two fatal plane crashes that killed all 346 people on board in Indonesia and Ethiopia.
In one email, an employee wrote, quote, this airplane is designed by clowns who are in turn supervised by monkeys, unquote.
In another, an employee asked a colleague, quote, would you put your family on a MAX simulator trained aircraft?
I wouldn't, unquote.
In a third, a worker wrote an apparent reference to interactions with the FAA, quote, I still haven't been forgiven by God for the covering up I did last year, unquote.
The Boeing 737 MAX has been grounded worldwide.
You know, the thing is, this is not new.
I mean, we had these messages weeks ago.
This is now just, I guess, because of the Iranian crash or the Ukraine Airlines crash that they're dredging it up and now they've got it.
It's a hook.
It is a hook.
Yeah.
But I never heard, reading these notes, I mean, designed by clowns I heard, but I never heard supervised by monkeys.
So they've been clipping these little snippets.
I just thought it was funny.
I just wonder about Boeing.
I mean, it's not unusual to have disgruntled employees.
That's for sure.
All companies have them.
Yeah, but it's not nice to hear that about something that's flying you through the air.
Exactly.
Yes, I don't want to hear these things.
I got a Boeing report from CNBC. Spot the gaffe!
A new twist in the saga of the Boeing 737 MAX as internal messages were released showing what Boeing employees were saying about the MAX. One reads, this airplane is designed by clowns who in turn are supervised by monkeys.
I gotta hand it to CNBC for the acting.
Little better than what Amy did.
I mean, she really put some emphasis into it.
Did a good job.
Phil LeBeau joins us now with more fallout from this latest embarrassment for Boeing.
But Phil, does it reveal anything new that's problematic for the airline?
Did you hear it?
Reveal?
No.
No.
Did it reveal anything new about the airplane?
Listen.
Now, with more fallout from this latest embarrassment for Boeing, but Phil, does it reveal anything new that's problematic for the airline?
She apparently thinks Boeing is an airline.
Ah!
Damn it.
Damn it.
What an idiot.
Yeah, that's good.
I didn't catch it though, so she got away with it.
Well, I listened to it 18 times before you kept saying that.
You listen again, this proves our point about you listen and listen and listen.
Because we produce these clips, you have to listen to them over and over.
You start picking stuff up.
I've had this clip for at least a week, maybe even three shows.
I just wanted to put it out there.
Universal Music Group.
It's the world's biggest music label, home to Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, and greats like the Beatles, and now to be shared with a consortium led by Tencent.
Universal's owner Vivendi disclosing on Tuesday that it has finalized an agreement to sell a 10% stake to the Chinese firm and its co-investors.
The deal values Universal at $34 billion, and the consortium has an option to buy another stake by early 2021.
Talks between the two groups were first revealed in August.
The agreement will allow both to expand in a recovering global market, with Tencent getting more access to US artists...
And Universal tapping into Korea's K-pop and other Asian stars.
The revenues are there.
2018 saw a fourth year of strong growth after a decade of decline.
Much of the upsurge driven by Spotify and other streaming services.
They made up nearly half of all revenues.
The deal will also be music to the ears of Vincent Bolleray, the French billionaire who controls Vivendi and who's been seeking to cash in on the revival.
I think this will have more implications than people realize.
Chinese don't like all kinds of content.
This is true.
Yeah, you know, and Universal Music, man, that's a big one.
That's a really big one.
We've sold everything.
Sold everything to the Chinese.
Good work.
Aren't there sanctions?
Well, they're going to make it with $34 billion at all backlist.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Well, it's all streaming.
Money.
Money in the bank.
It's the only thing we don't have.
But...
I'm a happy man.
And every single day I show up to do this show, which is every day because we're always working on it, I am so thankful I get to do this job.
Very, very thankful.
Well, you're thankful.
Yes.
Are we wrapping?
I'd like to.
Okay, well, if you want to wrap, I did want to do a little bit about the worldwide protests, but we can talk about that on the next show.
No, I think if you want to do it now, we can do it.
No, I don't want to do it.
I'd rather wrap.
I've stopped the end of show tune.
Well, then you're going to have to listen to a bunch of clips, including the French women protest, which is new.
No, no, no.
No, we'll do that on the next Sunday, which will be Thursday.
Thursday's good for talking about riots.
Mo Facts with Adam Curry, episode number 20 is up on No Agenda Stream.
You're right, John.
It's a great place to go listen to cool podcasts.
Discovery, it's built into it.
Noagendastream.com.
And you don't have to get an ad.
You don't have to buy it.
Yeah, it's on the internet.
It's on the web.
You just click and boom, you're done.
End of show mix is Leo Lapuke, Sir Chris Wilson.
And who is the third one from...
I have a credit on the third one.
But we definitely will be back with you on Thursday to bring you another two to three hours of media deconstruction.
I am coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, FEMA Region No.
6 in the governmental maps.
Remember us at dvorak.org.na.org.
Until then, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Thursday.
Please join us right here at noagendastream.com, noagendashow.com, on No Agenda.
Until then, adios, mofos and such.
Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal, and fast.
That is brand new information!
There was not a scintilla of evidence presented to justify the so-called imminent threat.
There's no clear evidence of an imminent threat.
You can't have two stories.
You can't say that something was imminent when it was not.
There was no evidence of an imminent and specific threat.
Transparently lying about an imminent threat.
This administration has not made the case that there was an imminent threat.
They did not show us that they were dealing with an imminent threat.
I saw no evidence of that whatsoever.
The president puts his interests above America's interests.
Imminent threat.
Imminent threat.
We have an imbecile president.
We are not safer.
I'm staying on that topic.
Imminent threat.
Imminent threat.
Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal, and fast.
Yes, science!
Okay, so we have an imbecile for president, you know this, but-
Immunist Threat. Immunist Threat. Immunist Threat. Immunist Threat. Immunist Threat. Immunist Threat.
Immunist Threat.
We have an imbecile president, you know this.
There is no imminent threat.
There is no imminent threat.
I'm staying on that topic.
But it was imminent, and then all of a sudden, he was gone.
Bye-bye.
Got to admit, we're getting better.
We're getting better all the time.
Yes, I'll admit, we're getting better.
We're getting better.
She's out of her mind.
Getting so much better all the time.
We're getting better all the time.
Greta, Greta, we're getting Greta all the time.
Greta, Greta, getting so much Greta all the time.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate game.
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