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1137: Contempt Kabuki
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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
And Sunday, May 12, 2019, this is your award-winning Gimmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1137.
This is no agenda.
Gimmed by double-digit dog biscuits and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone, Star State.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I heard 12-2019...
Ah, baby, it's just me.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
Now, what's this about 12, 2019?
What?
It doesn't sound like you said.
What did I say?
May 12, 2019.
You said it sounded like 12, 2019.
I didn't say Sunday.
Here's the problem.
I can't even hear myself today.
What?
Huh?
Yeah, I've got so many complaints about the feedback from my headphones to the microphone, which is because I can't wear my hearing aids with the headphones.
That doesn't work at all.
Just putting the audio directly into the hearing aids delivers an ever-so-slight delay, which is too annoying because it has to go through Bluetooth and all kinds of other crap.
That's interesting.
Yeah, it's slight.
It's doable, but it's slight, and I still like the weight of...
What do you like immediate?
And I like the weight of, like, hands on my head, you know?
But, um...
I do.
So I either had to choose between keeping it at 11, because I have an...
You know, I have a...
The output of the mixing system goes into a separate headphone amp just to jack it up loud enough for my deafness.
But then I'd have to tape the headphones to my head with masking tape so nothing could leak.
So I just decided to turn it down.
So I don't know what I said, honestly.
Okay.
But hopefully there'll be less feedback and that will annoy people less.
I never heard it.
What?
We're just going to keep this going.
You never heard what?
The feedback?
Oh, it's constant.
It's gotten much worse since I've really been using the hearing aids a lot.
And then when I take them out and I put the headphones on, it's like, what?
I don't know.
What?
What?
I can't hear it.
Huh.
Yeah.
But just a number of people have noticed it.
So thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So we'll see how we do.
Yeah.
It's true.
You'll find out.
Well, let's see.
We start off with, you know, I've already...
It's Mother's Day.
Happy Mother's Day to you and everybody's family out there.
Yeah, yeah.
Happy Mother's Day, all the moms.
That's right.
Yeah, we got, again, a poor response for the newsletter and the Mother's Day promotion.
Well, you know, someone said...
One of our producers sent in a note and said, it's obvious why this happens, because unlike you, who have no moms and think that everyone else hates their mom for some reason...
People are sending their money to their moms as gifts instead of to the show.
I saw that note and I believe that could be it.
I think it's possible people are doing that.
Although I don't know what could be better than a shout out on the best podcast in the universe for mom.
Okay, flowers are nice too, but this will be around in some form long after we're all gone.
Flowers die.
I'm reliably informed.
So, okay.
Yes, so Happy Mother's Day.
We do have some people who want to thank their moms, so we'll be doing that in our donation segments.
But, you know, one of the highlights of my television year that I always look forward to watching is the European Song Contest, the Eurovision Song Contest, I should say.
It seems like every year you talk about this thing.
Because I'm always excited about it.
I like the songs.
I like how all these countries compete.
It has nothing to do with Europe.
It's the Eurovision.
So, you know, Israel won last year.
So this year...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Israel's not in Europe.
It's the Eurovision.
We do this every year, too.
You say so, yeah.
It's Eurovision.
It has nothing to do with the EU or Europe.
Oh, okay.
It's like one-hour cleaners.
Exactly.
Back in an hour, I said, it's going to take two days.
Yeah, it's just the name of the place.
One-hour cleaners, just a name.
Just a name.
Exactly.
Eurovision.
So Israel won last year.
You'll remember it was kind of a funky...
They tend to have some funky acts.
And they swept everything, and so now the contest, which I think is the final, is next week.
This weekend we have semifinals.
Oh, very exciting.
But the Palestinians are now calling for a boycott, of course.
Fight over your hummus all the time, and now we've got to fight over songs in the Eurovision Song Contest.
This will not stand.
The Palestinians calling for a boycott, that's going to close it.
I don't know if it'll close it, but there's a lot of sympathy with the Palestinian plight, which I discovered there is no country named Palestine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And once you start looking into it, there was a good documentary I saw.
I was interested in, you know, the two-state solution.
You know, the two-state solution was, that was the original idea set forth by, I think it was still League of Nations.
That was the resolution.
This would be a two-state place.
And it never played out, kind of.
So here we go.
Then we have the artists calling for a boycott.
Some, I mean, like PBS, for example, who believe they're in Europe, but they never play this...
The whole event in the U.S. at all?
Nobody cares?
You know, there is one channel that carries it.
And the thing about the Eurovision Song Contest, certainly in the Netherlands, but above all in the United Kingdom, who I don't think they've won since Brotherhood of Man did Kisses for Me, which is when I was eight or nine.
Unfortunately, he passed away, but Sir Terry Wogan, who was a famous BBC Radio 2 presenter, He would do the voiceover, and he would just sit there, probably a little bit inebriated, if not sloshed drunk, and just make fun of everybody.
Because the Brits always knew they'd never, ever get in the final, they'd never win.
And so now in the U.S. But that would be worth watching.
Well, it was.
And now in the U.S. we have, what is the name of the channel that...
Univision.
No, it's not Univision.
It's something you have to...
Telemundo.
No, it's a real...
I'm sure it's on the Pluto TV lineup.
No, it's not on Pluto.
No, it'll be on...
It's something with a T. But they get two gay guys to sit there and comment and everything, which is perfect.
You know, campy, campy gay guys.
Like what Cooper and Anderson Cooper and what's his face?
Andy Cohen.
Andy Cohen always tried to do on New Year's Eve on CNN. Only these guys pull it off.
Court TV. I think it's Logo.
That's what it is.
Logo.
Logo broadcasts it.
It's worthwhile.
Man, Iceland has a heavy metal kind of grunge crazy ass with all the frightening video clip.
It's not your syrupy...
Look, all you need to do is just put Katy Perry on the judges' podium and you'll have it made.
ABC will carry it.
Yeah, but see...
Now, this is the beauty of the Eurovision Song Contest, is there's a...
Each country has its own professional judges, and they vote, and they're not allowed to vote on their own country.
But then you have the text vote.
And, you know, and you see all the politics coming into play.
You know, adjacent countries who will vote for each other.
You know, if they don't like that country, then, you know, everyone hates Russia, so they don't vote for them, except for the countries that do love Russia.
So it's just, it's a wonderful evening.
Apparently, Logo stopped doing it.
Ah!
So much for your theory.
Oh, damn it.
It's ridiculous.
I do think it could be, when you mentioned Terry Wogan just...
Ragging on it.
I think I'd watch that.
You and I could do this, actually.
We could do...
Yeah, we could rag on it as much as anybody.
But we could do a good job.
I think it would be fun to have you just being like, what is this?
What country?
Where is this country?
Where's Katy Perry?
I could see it.
All right.
Well, I'll see if anyone is caring.
I think it happens next year.
This will be a big event.
We can do a little TV. This is our exit strategy.
Hey, I'm all for it.
Let me see if we...
Hey, how about this?
Let me see if we can get a feed that everyone will be watching.
A legal feed.
A legal feed.
And then we'll just pop on our stream and we'll just provide commentary.
You can sit on the couch while you do it.
No, we got to do it on video.
It has to be video.
Well, can't we just provide it?
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, it has to be synced with the video.
But we don't have to be on camera.
No, no, no, no.
I was thinking more like the Space Science 3000 with the two of our shadows in front.
You know, silhouettes of our heads.
And maybe a third head.
I think that's complicating an already well thought out format.
Just do the voiceover.
You don't need to do anything else.
How did Wogan do it?
He just voiceover.
He was just in the background.
He was never on camera.
We should have the video feed.
Yeah.
Just get a video feed and then you and I will just rag on it.
Complicated later.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
I think this is...
I think this...
Is it this weekend?
That's the wedding weekend.
And?
Or you have to cancel the wedding!
Either that or we can sit in my studio and do it live together.
Yeah, maybe not.
Cancel the wedding!
Maybe not.
Maybe not.
Alright.
Well, I've determined there is no news in America.
Oh, I've got plenty of tips.
Really?
Let me guess.
What?
Did it go something like that?
Yeah.
The news you caught?
I didn't understand the word you said.
I'll try it again.
Bye-bye, Miller-Trump.
No, no.
I only have one, actually, from that whole thing.
Oh, okay.
Even though I promised clips, I got nothing.
I got the one that I said, eh, this is kind of interesting.
I should probably clip this.
Okay.
We're going to clip it.
We'll play that, then.
It's a goal mark on the coup on the Nadler committee.
Oh, he calls it a coup?
And now this committee's majority is on the wrong side of a very important historic time.
We've never had the intelligence community, the FBI, people at the top of the DOJ, abusing their powers to create a case against a president where there was none.
Where assets were actually used to try to set up members of the Trump campaign when there was no case.
To try to create a case.
We ought to be all over that.
We ought to be demanding answers from the FISA judge or judges who were either A... Content to have fraud committed against their courts or were complicit.
Maybe it was Peter Strzok's buddy that he bragged about in his text that was going to be the FISA judge that signed warrants where there was no probable cause of anything.
This was an attempted coup, and history is bringing that into focus more and more clearly.
You know, this is a very dumb idea to call this a coup.
No.
Because it's not...
The definition of a coup involves the military.
Even an attempted coup.
The textbook definition involves military.
I don't think it does.
Oh, okay.
Do we need to...
Yes.
Okay.
Let's take a look.
I can, of course, be wrong because, after all, I'm just a VJ. No, your course can be wrong because you're deaf.
What?
What?
It literally is like that a bit.
Okay, let's see.
Book of Knowledge.
What do we have here?
Coup.
Sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from government.
So it needs to be sudden, violent, and illegal.
There is no military mentioned.
True.
But it has to be violence.
Soft coup.
Look up soft coup.
Soft coup.
Well, I think the coup is still ongoing, if you want to take it in my literal sense, with the military.
Bloomberg did an interview with General Kelly.
I have no idea why he feels he should be talking at all, but okay.
Kelly, the guy that used to be chief of staff?
Yeah, Bloomberg.
What's he doing?
Talking.
What kind of guys are they?
What kind of people do we have running in the middle?
This is what happens when you don't have a major war and all the kind of lousy players move to the top.
This happened in World War II where you had all these boneheads running everything like the head of the Navy and the second nav sec and the rest of them were all ship after ship was being knocked out on the East Coast by German U-boats and I don't know whatever it's just an accident.
It was just ridiculous to watch these these These incompetents run things until they finally got thrown out so they could win the damn thing.
I thought Kenley was revered within the armed services.
I'm sure that's what he says.
And he was indeed chief of staff.
If he's revered, he shouldn't be out yakking away about his experience as boss while he's still in office.
Well, worse.
Seems irresponsible.
Worse, I think he's propagating a coup.
By talking about what needs to happen with the President's family.
The team we became as a White House staff built on what Reince Priebus, my predecessor and a great guy, built on what he was trying to do.
And for that 18 months we staffed the President very effectively.
Was it complicated to have the President's family in the government at the time?
They're an influence that has to be dealt with.
I don't know how that sounded to you.
So I'm listening to this clip.
I should play two to the head right there.
Well, and he actually says he's going to qualify that, which I thought, oh, wait a minute, are you going to backpedal on this?
But no.
It has to be dealt with.
And today, if you were...
I don't mean...
I by no means mean Mrs.
Trump.
First Lady's a wonderful person.
That's fantastic.
I thought he was going to say, no, I don't mean like kill them or anything.
No, he meant kill them, but Melania's okay.
She can stay.
She's good.
Yeah, you need a first lady.
I thought that was pretty revealing.
They've got to be dealt with.
I mean, if Trump could trust these guys like Rance Priebus, who was the leaker, the great guy according to Kelly, okay, well...
They're all douchebags.
As I said, there's no news.
Although, I did pick up an interesting clip from a podcast.
Remember Sebastian Gorka?
Remember that guy?
Yeah, he's still around.
Yeah, I thought he was...
He does a podcast.
I thought he was gone because...
I guess he got...
I remember he left the administration and...
And conflict of interest.
Was it conflict?
Was that why he left?
I think there was some conflict of interest.
Yeah, it was his turn and they were raking him over the coals for being...
And, you know, of course, obviously he's a white supremacist, Nazi quadru.
And obviously, we all know this.
Anyone who hangs out with Trump has got to be a Nazi.
So he has a podcast, and he had, I think it's Victoria Toonsing.
I'm not quite sure what she does.
And my favorite, DeGenova, Joe DeGenova, who has all this great stuff.
He seems to have taken a turn for the best on this show.
He has!
I want to say this is funny, because at least six months ago, I had a bunch of DeGenova stuff.
Yeah, and I didn't like it.
And I didn't like it at the time, I'm sure.
No, I actually cut most of it.
I didn't use a lot of it because he's too long-winded.
But he's really great when it comes to coming up with crazy ideas that are never going to come to fruition about what's going to happen.
Well, this is an interesting one because, again, it's about Papadopoulos and how they were trying to set Papadopoulos up.
And as you and I both know, having traveled internationally, there's a limitation on how much cash you can take into the country or bring into the country, which is $10,000.
Unless you declare it.
It's okay, but it's a huge pain in the butt to declare it.
And why do you need more than $10,000 in cash to travel anyway?
But they tried to use this on Papadopoulos.
Remember, this is kind of the dumbish guy who has the hot Italian lawyer wife.
Who stuck with him through all of this spy-slut business.
So, I don't know about their relationship, but they seem pretty good together, and I guess she helped him out of a potentially nasty situation.
You have an incredible story, Victoria, about how this man...
I wish I was Sebastian Gorka.
I could just talk like this.
John, you have an incredible...
He's made as a pretentious podcaster.
Here's the voice.
I'm going to podcast now.
Made for podcasting.
Yes.
Do tell me, Sebastian, can you ask the question?
You have an incredible story, Victoria, about how this man...
I do like that bottom end.
He's got the Victoria.
He's got something going on.
He's got some processing.
You have an incredible story, Victoria, about how this man, who was targeted by our intelligence communities, they tried to sting, right?
What happened to George Papadopoulos?
After he was put on the Trump campaign as a foreign policy advisor, unpaid, I mean, very informal.
He only met the president one time at a meeting with a bunch of people.
He was vacationing with his then-fiancee in Greece, and this guy comes and starts knocking at his door, basically, to say, hey, I really want to deal with you.
You're now very important.
And so, well, you just come to Israel.
Hold on, I say stop.
This isn't Camille Paglia, is it?
No, no, no.
It's Victoria Tunsey?
I don't know who she is.
She's got the same cadence.
I'm going with Milieu, just to point it out.
Okay.
This is the Milieu of the lesbian libertarian.
Ooh!
Well, let's take a look at her wiki page.
But the thing that Paglia does constantly, besides having that exact same clipped speech, she says stuff like blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, in the middle of things.
Yeah.
Oh, well, hold on.
No wonder Victoria Ann Toonsing is a lawyer and partner with her husband, Joe DeGeneva.
It's a husband and wife team here.
I didn't know that.
Let me see where she comes from.
Well, but she still could be a lesbian.
Yeah, could be.
That's a lesbian libertarian milieu.
You might be in the milieu, but you don't have to be a lesbian.
Right, right, right.
Okay, well, let's continue.
starts knocking at his door, basically, to say, hey, I really want to deal with you.
You're now very important.
And so, well, you just come to Israel and talk to me about making a deal.
And he said, why can't you talk now?
Well, no, I need you in Israel.
Go to Israel.
The guy takes him to his hotel room, and there on the bed is $10,000 in cash in a suitcase.
$10,000 in cash.
So I'll make it short.
Papadopoulos' wife is very smart and says, don't do it.
Leave it here.
They left it in Greece with his lawyer.
He flew back to Dulles and the second he landed, the FBI surrounded him and started searching everything that he had.
And in fact, they already had his baggage from the plane.
He couldn't believe that they got his baggage.
It was a complete set-up.
Of course, he didn't have...
There was no $10,000, but they knew that he hadn't declared it when he entered the United States.
So they thought he hadn't declared it, so we're going to nab him.
They said, we got him now.
Put the thumb screws on, and he's going to squeal.
And one FBI agent said to him, this is what happens when you work for Donald Trump.
Nice.
Nice.
I believe that's true.
I believe that to be true.
That's true.
That's true.
So that was a smart move.
By the way, I'd be like, 10 grand?
Man.
Cheap ass.
Where's the hookers?
We're a hundred grand and where's the hookers, man?
Don't you know how this works is inflation?
To write some dumb report.
So that's the only kind of interesting news in the any collusion files that I've found.
What I did find rather fun is I have a little flashback.
Do you remember Eric Holder?
Do we remember who he is, who he was?
Of course we do.
He's the Fast and Furious guy who's got called up for contempt of Congress.
Yes, he was held in contempt.
That's correct.
Eric Holder was the Attorney General held in contempt.
I think it took a while before they actually voted on holding him in contempt of Congress.
It didn't make much difference because the local DA at the time, who has to do, if there's going to be any...
Yeah, there was a couple other things besides the gun running, which was known as Fast and Furious.
There was arresting journalists, spying on journalists.
We have such short memories.
The M5M, even shorter, doesn't seem to recall that.
But I do have a couple of soundbites, a little compilage, if you will, of the mainstream back when we were talking about contempt of Congress of an attorney general, except this was...
The Obama Attorney General.
Given what we know about the Republican Party and the way the House of Representatives conducts itself when run by Republicans and with a Democrat in the White House, it shouldn't really count as news when a House committee finds the Democratic Attorney General in contempt of Congress.
Every single Republican voted to hold the Attorney General in contempt over this crazy conspiracy theory.
Tell the Republicans to stop this witch hunt now.
He's right.
Why go ahead with a contempt vote?
Look, there are certain internal documents that are not Congress's business.
Why?
It just looks like more of our broken politics and vicious fights now out in the open.
A party in the Congress that does just about nothing to create jobs or to help people without jobs decided the best way to do their job is to shower the Obama administration with subpoenas.
See, if you are a person who watches Fox News all day, it is possible that you have been marinating in this conspiracy theory for long enough now that this seems feasible.
Is this sort of stop and frisk at the highest level?
Go after the Attorney General, get in the emptiest pockets.
It looks like stop and frisk, doesn't it?
Let me finish with my personal views of the stop and frisk thing.
And I don't mean to use this term too much, but it's almost like a stop and frisk.
For a lot of people, this is Republican versus Democrat, and they say this is just theater.
It amounts to nothing.
It is a distraction.
It is politics writ large in Washington, according to most people.
This is really much more to be filed in the category of politics than law.
This is contempt kabuki.
This is a classic case in Washington of where you stand is a matter of where you sit.
When the Republicans have the White House, they love executive privilege.
I like contempt kabuki.
I like, yeah, I like contempt kabuki too.
There was something else in there I liked that was unfortunate.
Now, of course, my point, obviously, is people, this is the same shit, just different team.
It's wrestling.
Yeah, WWE. Yeah, without the cool suits.
Yeah, and the guy with the guys.
You got Gohmert instead of a guy talking like this.
Gohmert.
Beto could be one of the Mexican Terror twins.
I'm confusing them.
I don't know much about wrestling.
Yeah.
It's exactly the same.
Exactly the same stuff.
Now it's just the other parties yelling the same.
Fox News is now saying what these guys were saying.
Although Fox News, man, something's very odd with them.
They're going off message.
They're going off message.
They're going to lose their audience doing this, by the way.
I think so, too.
The whole reason for being is to present a concise...
It's like watching Shields and Brooks.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, Shields and Brooks, they're supposed to give us two sides of an argument.
No, no.
They're both in total agreement, and who wants to watch them?
I do have a good example.
This is a summary of the latest...
Shields, Brooks and Shields summary on PBS. On top of subpoenas for the president's son, subpoenas for the attorney general.
What do we make of all this?
Well, I mean, I think it's the House Banking Committee across the board and now led by...
I just think, Judy, that in Iran, in Venezuela, I mean, it's just...
And the system wasn't intended for this.
You know, it's the complete breakdown of the checks and balances system.
I smell Dvorak's razor blade in this clip.
That's the way it goes.
No, he talks like that?
No.
I don't believe it.
I have a different example of Fox News.
I don't know.
This is specifically Tucker Carlson.
And I think he may...
I don't know.
He's compromised, but not in the way you would think.
He had Andrew Yang on.
Now, Andrew Yang, we're focusing on him because we get complaints that no one focuses on.
He's got no money.
I mean, I'm surprised he gets as much airtime as he does for a guy with no money.
Well, we love his PowerPoint idea, the State of the Union on PowerPoint, and that's his slogan for this year, PowerPoint, PowerPoint.
He is the man who, on Joe Rogan, was talking about the universal basic income being the way to go.
And now he has a new gambit, which he rolled out on Tucker Carlson.
I was, well, it wasn't surprising to hear this from a Democratic primary candidate.
It was surprising to hear Tucker Carlson all in on this idea.
I have standing in this particular area, having lived in multiple countries with this particular situation, And I thought it was interesting that Fox, again, is moving away from their core message.
I don't know if a lot of people in America understand what this is really about or what it really means, but the way it's presented is, I'm curious at best.
Yeah, and Amazon's the most egregious example where they're now soaking up $20 billion in business and causing 30% of American malls and stores to close, and taxpayers are seeing zero in return.
So if you look at what other advanced economies have done, they've figured this out.
They've said, look, we need to have a mechanism in place so that Amazon's going to pay its fair share along with Netflix and Delta and these other companies that are paying zero in taxes.
So what they've done is they...
Oh, can you guess?
Can you guess?
No, no, no.
Well, in a way, yeah.
Actually, yes, in a way.
We've adopted a value-added tax.
Oh, no!
Oh, yeah, stay with it.
Tiny slice of every Amazon sale, every Google search, and on and on.
And it's very, very hard for companies like Amazon to game their way out of.
I'm actually going to roll that back for a second, because he literally says here...
Delta and these other companies that are paying zero in taxes.
So what they've done is they've adopted a value-added tax where then the American people would get a tiny slice of every Amazon sale.
No.
This is a lie.
This is a scam.
Well, I'm going to play the whole clip, but a value-added tax.
He's saying, oh, the American people will get a piece of that.
Yeah, after you pay all of it.
So here's this brilliant idea.
Let me see, I'm going to pay this value-added tax, and I'll get 10% of it back in services.
That sounds like a great deal.
You pay a buck to get a dime back.
Google search and on and on, and it's very, very hard for companies like Amazon to game their way out of a value-added tax system.
So why don't we have that?
It's a great question.
Just listen to it for a second.
We can stop it every 10 seconds.
Companies like Amazon to gain their way out of a value-added tax system.
So why don't we have that?
It's a great question.
I mean, people have been advocating for it for quite some time.
And my campaign is advocating and championing it right now because we need to wise up to the fact that companies like Amazon are very smart and moving their earnings through places like Ireland where the American taxpayer will see none of it, whereas a value-added tax will make it impossible for them to sell to us without paying into our society their fair share.
As if they're going to be paying that fair share.
This is so great the way he's explaining it.
And Tucker buys it.
So why are you the only candidate who's thinking through what to do about this?
Well, we already answered that question.
Do you think it's kind of weird?
I think it's weird.
Again, all you have to do is look around the world and say other countries, other advanced economies have figured this out.
We're the only advanced economy that does not have a value-added tax in place.
And we need to make sure that the American people are actually seeing some of the gains from the incredible innovation and value economy.
That companies like Amazon and Salesforce and Netflix, all of whom paid zero in taxes last year, are getting away with, really.
And they're doing their job, which is to pay as little in taxes as possible.
We have to do our job, which is to make it so the American people see our fair share.
So does that, I mean, just to argue the other side for a second, would that increase, and presumably would increase the cost to American consumers of goods, right?
Yes!
Well, in some instances, in some cases, the companies will find cost efficiencies or eat part of it.
And that's one reason why my campaign wants to take that money that we're getting from the value-added tax and turn it to the American people in the form of a dividend, because that's the most direct way that we can actually have the American people benefit from The fear is that even if we do end up increasing the tax rate on some of these companies, the American people won't benefit from that.
Andrew Yang, certainly the most interesting person running for president.
Sounds like a great idea to me.
I appreciate it.
It's a great idea.
There you go.
Great idea.
Let's enlighten Mr.
Carlson about the value-added tax, which I lived under in the Netherlands and Belgium and the United Kingdom.
The value-added tax in the Netherlands when I was there, I think it's still 20% or 21%.
And you pay for that.
You don't pay that much off the top on everything you buy.
And it's an added tax, so it's not built in.
Yeah, get the word added in there.
That's what the thing Tucker sort of said.
Well, in other words, more taxes.
Yes, and you, consumer, you pay for it.
And here's the problem with the value-added tax.
If you add that, if you start down that road, it'll be, okay, everybody, great idea, 5% value-added tax, and somehow, just like the carbon tax in Scandinavia, it'll come back to you magically.
All right, so we're paying that.
And you know what happens in two years?
Hey, everybody, we've got a little shortfall here.
We need to up that value-added tax just a bit.
Don't worry, it's really the company's paying for it.
Don't you worry about it.
It's all good.
Bad idea.
That's 10%.
That's 15%.
I'm amazed.
That's 20%.
I'm amazed how he can back this.
There's clearly a right-wing, alt-right, Nazi quadruple.
Well, it's clear to me that Tucker doesn't travel that much.
He probably doesn't.
Now that I think about it, I don't know that he's ever talked about any other country.
He may go down to Cancun and that's about it.
Listen, we grew up watching this guy and he was wearing a bow tie.
So, you know, you don't travel anywhere if you wear one of those.
No, not unless you're a professor and, you know, a visiting scholar somewhere.
I'm a publisher.
I'm a publisher, yes.
I put him up the same level as my...
You know, it was Christopher Buckley, my ex-cousin-in-law, whatever he was.
That kind of guy.
Oh, that internet Adam.
Who was going to want to read the newspaper on the computer screen?
Yes, no one.
Okay, I have an AOL address, but that's all I'm doing.
I'm just keeping it to that.
Christopher Buckley.
Douche.
So, that is the media landscape.
It's changing rapidly, where we have a guy like Yang promoting this, and it's, hey, this sounds like a great idea!
It's, again, it's like soccer.
Now, I do want to point out, I've had down in my notes, I want to make a prediction.
Do you still have a red book?
We haven't looked in the red book in a long time.
I gave up on it because I realized I can't read my own writing.
I think that football...
People keep track of these so you can predict what you want.
Okay.
I believe that football, let's just call it instead of soccer, football, I think is going to be extremely big on U.S. television, but it only will be women's football.
There's something about this that, especially our team, the United States team, who are all cute, there's something about this that is going places.
That's my prediction.
I think we'll see this.
When I was in Croatia a few years back, we were talking about this, and the Croatians said, well, we understand that football is very popular in the United States, but only amongst women.
There's only women teams.
Men don't play it.
When they said that, I could have corrected them.
I said, no, you're absolutely right.
Men do not play soccer, as we call it.
It's only played by women, and that's just the way it is in our country.
It's for women only.
We have a really good team, though, don't we?
Yeah, all the world champs.
We have great women soccer players.
Well, I want to promote them.
I'm looking at the list of, by the way, just to back up a little bit, looking at the list of value-added tax and remembering it always starts off like at 5 or 10%.
Mm-hmm.
Right now in Hungary, it's 27%.
Geez, I thought they harmonized that, the EU, everyone had to have 20%.
No, no, they're all different.
Really?
Norway is 25%.
25%.
25%.
I remember back when I had money in an airplane, it's like, yeah, I want new avionics.
They said, okay, well, it's going to be, I was like, 8,000 euros or something.
Like, wow, that's a lot of money, but okay.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, but there's 21% value-added tax.
Like, what?
He just threw on 2,000 euros?
No.
It drives you nuts.
I'm looking at these other numbers.
25% for the Fargo Islands.
This is crazy.
I'd like to have our No Agenda logo on the team uniform.
That'd be cool.
We can make it happen.
When you're traveling, people should know this, when you're traveling, if you get your receipts where everything you buy is over a few bucks, you can take it to the airport, just stand in line and get your money back.
Yes.
Which is not always convenient.
No, it's not always convenient.
And the people who are sitting there are also mean.
Especially with the people in France.
I think I bought a pair of glasses in France because I broke my glasses, got a new pair, and I went to retrieve the VAT. And they're just mean and rude.
In France?
That's a shocker.
Yeah.
I know.
Who would have thunk it?
It's crazy.
Okay, so now Yang is off my list of anyone even worthwhile.
Anytime anyone brings up the value-added tax, and especially when they throw the bull crap at you like he did, which is all advanced economies use the value-added tax.
The smart ones have it.
Yeah.
Mind you, that VAT also gets tacked on to medical costs, medical procedures.
It's added.
It's value.
Where's the value?
I like this value added tax.
It really should be just called an added tax.
The dummy tax.
So here's a thing I picked up from one of the networks.
Just a kind of a rundown.
You know, they really do want Biden to run.
They think he can win.
Yeah.
And so here's a classic rundown, a Biden rundown of what's going on with Biden.
And who's this from?
Which outlet?
You know, I forgot to write it down, but there goes the Zephyr.
It's one of the...
Oh, an extra car today.
Oh!
The...
From the minute Joe Biden sets foot onto the campaign trail, he is the person to beat.
The question is whether one of these 19 other candidates emerges as his chief adversary or whether his biggest obstacle will be Joe Biden himself.
The Taoiseach knows a lot about it.
His mom lived in Long Island for 10 years or so.
God rest her soul.
And although she's...
Wait, your mom's still alive when your dad passed.
God bless her soul.
He is now the frontrunner because he is a household name.
They put one foot in front of the other.
They keep going.
That's the unbreakable spirit of the people of America.
And also he brings a much broader set of policy experiences to the table than really any other candidate.
I believe we have so botched this policy, so botched the opportunities to move on the Sandinista government.
The SNL scandal, we need not tell anyone, is the biggest white-collar rip-off in this nation's history.
Judge, if I look only at what you've said and written, as used to happen in the past, I would have to vote no.
For all the respect that he is given as the elder statesman, if you look back at Joe Biden's previous races, his 1988 bid flamed out in the middle of a plagiarism scandal.
In 2008, he won exactly 4% of the vote in the Iowa caucuses.
There is a lack of message discipline.
The next vice president of the United States of America.
I remember in the 2008 campaign, after the Obama team put him on the ticket at a fundraiser late in the campaign, he went so far as to Apocalyptically almost predict there would be a major international crisis.
This was one of those moments tailor-made for a Saturday Night Live parody.
Mark my words!
If you take away nothing else from what I say here today, or indeed in this entire campaign, remember this.
If Barack Obama is elected, we will have a crisis!
Yeah, I'll give Joe Biden credit for one thing.
He dragged Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into a same-sex marriage.
Do you remember that?
No.
Yes, it was...
Obama was going to come out and announce the policy on maybe a Monday or Tuesday, and then on some interview...
It was a problem because, you know, he was basically the guy that, on an interview, I remember it was with Robin, I think, from Good Morning America.
Robin, is that who it was?
And he said, oh, no, I think same-sex marriage should be okay.
And he just went all in on it.
And this was shocking at the time.
No one had heard of what?
This is from the White House?
And then Obama and Hillary, they immediately had to kind of jump on and say, oh, yes, yes, yes, we've changed our views on this.
And that was Joe Biden who dragged them into that by basically jumping into the announcement, which he wasn't even supposed to do in the first place.
Yeah, he does a lot of that.
Yeah.
I consider that bumbling.
Well, he plays it off as bumbling.
I think he's a lot smarter than we might give him credit for in that regard.
Well, that's a possibility.
But Gates, the guy who used to be in the CIA and whatever, and he was in the various staffs of the Obama administration, who wrote this book, if you recall, pretty much about the Obama administration, said everything Biden did was just, everything he did was wrong.
Hmm.
Well, the only reason why he's being pegged up on top right now is because he's got the money.
You know, when you raise $700,000 in one night, then the news media is like, Hey, Joe!
Hey, how you doing?
Let's do another interview so you can buy some ads.
It's their money.
They see that as their money.
Who's got the money?
Biden's, right?
It's our money.
Let's go get that money.
And then they go and, you know, Monday.
No, wait, Monday?
Yes, Monday night.
Watch what happens with...
Man, are you okay?
I'm having a lozenge.
Okay.
Umberto is going to reintroduce himself.
I'm reading from the Associated Press.
O'Rourke plans to step up his national media appearances after skipping most of that kind of exposure in recent months.
He is scheduled to appear on MSNBC's Rachel Maddow show on Monday night and ABC's The View the next day.
O'Rourke acknowledges he struggled to find his presidential campaign footing.
Sounds like he struggled to find a good booker.
I think in part I was just trying to keep up when I first started out, he said, after addressing about 40 people at a recent house party in Newton, Iowa.
I really feel like I found my rhythm and my pace.
I just feel comfortable.
I feel like this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
It's my calling.
This is where I belong.
I'm Beto.
So we'll see.
He's lost so much momentum in him.
When you hear him...
Yeah, he's dumb.
He's just dumb.
Well, he also has the...
He tries to sound like Obama with that pacing.
Yeah, and he's waving his arms.
It sounds like he's doing an Obama.
But, you know, all you hear him say is we've got to do, you know, comprehensive this, reform that...
Impeach the president.
At least Yang is saying, oh, we're going to do a value-added tax.
Oh, we're going to do universal basic income.
He's not saying, oh, at least he's saying something.
Elizabeth Warren's still the favorite amongst the graduating class.
We just got one back here.
Done with four years in Arkansas.
Liking what Elizabeth Warren has to say.
Feels somewhat cheated, scammed by the system.
Everyone's talking about Liz.
Hey, you know what?
We don't care about anything.
Just take this debt off of my books.
She's got a real shot with that.
She's got a real shot.
She's got that.
The problem is she's got stuff like this.
She's creating problems for herself.
I played my Warren clip.
Hugh's op-ed comes just weeks after Massachusetts Senator and 2020 hopeful Elizabeth Warren unveiled a plan to break up tech giants, including Facebook, Google, and Amazon.
Oh yeah, she has no focus.
She's an idiot.
She has no focus.
She has something going with these kids who are all of voting age.
They probably won't vote.
These were the Beto voters who didn't really come out in Texas, for sure.
Too much work.
Yeah, I've been finishing my game here.
But if you got $30,000 or $40,000 in student loan debt, I think I can go to the poll and vote for you, Liz.
Yeah, maybe, but I got Facebook.
No, no, I disagree.
These kids are also moving away from Facebook.
They're moving away from social media.
Now they actually have to do...
They're getting dogs.
My dog won't let me go.
The idea of breaking up the tech giants, besides being scatterbrained, is like, wait a minute, these are the guys who got all the money.
So you're going to bust up Amazon.
Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post.
Hello.
Hello.
Knock, knock.
Well, I'm against all of this.
I'm against all of the breakup ideas because I see the internet as a network that anyone can access and anyone can use whatever freely available protocols there are to distribute your information.
I don't think necessarily Facebook and Twitter and Instagram are the internet.
That's what people believe, but it's not true.
It's not.
It's just not true.
So let these guys wallow in their own shit.
It's fine.
I don't need to use them.
But anyone who participates in this breakup conversation is giving him too much credence and doesn't know what the internet is.
You're looking at the America Online version of the internet.
That's what you're talking, Elizabeth Warren and all these other people.
They don't even know how to turn on a computer.
Well, I think, I'm pretty sure they can do that.
I don't know.
Hey Bill, can you turn on my computer?
I don't know how to do it.
I'm pretty sure that's what's going on.
It's that round button.
There's a lot of different things that are problematic for people in government.
For instance, have you been tracking Bitcoin?
No, I don't follow Bitcoin that closely.
Well, going back to, I think, November last year, the prices dropped from around $6,300 down to a low of just above $3,000.
Right.
That much I know.
And if you look today...
I can look right now, but last I checked, it was over 7,000.
And if you've ever looked at a stock chart, it looks like the longest bear trap I've ever seen in my life.
And that's actually down a bit now, so it's 68%.
But it was up to, no, it was up as high as almost 7,400, which is higher than it was when the drop happened.
And this is causing concern for a lot of people.
Certainly in government, this is Congressman Sherman saying, And he has only one way to go for this.
I look for colleagues to join with me in introducing a bill to outlaw cryptocurrency purchases by Americans so that we nip this in the bud in part because...
I love to nip it in the bud.
Hello?
10 years...
10 years...
Hey!
There's something to this Bitcoin shit.
We should nip that in the bud.
Let me write up a bill for y'all.
in part because an awful lot of our international power comes from the fact that the dollar is the standard unit of international finance and transactions.
Clearing through the New York Fed is critical for major oil and other...
I'm just going to interrupt him and play that bit again.
What he's saying is true, although it may sound very unbelievable to most.
When you transact money, I think even if you go from, let's say, the Netherlands to Germany, I believe it still eventually goes through the SWIFT clearing system.
They may be using the full European system, but the SWIFT American banking system has fought very long and hard to make sure all money transactions go through our system.
Through the Fed system.
All of them.
Certainly when we're talking about dollar purchases.
But, you know, and this guy's really just laying it out as to why this is a problem because of, you know, what interests we have.
And I think it greatly explains.
Kind of like a problem to me.
To me, it sounds like this is exactly why Bitcoin needs to exist.
of international finance and transactions.
Clearing through the New York Fed is critical for major oil and other transactions.
And it is the announced purpose of the supporters of cryptocurrency to take that power away from us, to put us in a position where the most significant sanctions we have on Iran, for example, would become irrelevant.
So whether it is to disempower our foreign policy, our tax collection enforcement, or our traditional law enforcement, the purposes of cryptocurrency, the advantage it has over sovereign currency is solely to aid in the disempowerment of the United States and the rule of law.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
Yeah, I think he's right.
Bitcoin is anti-American.
Yeah, true.
I'm all for it, I have to say.
I'm all for it.
I think it's great.
We deserve a little competition on our dollar.
Yeah, we're going to get it from the Chinese.
Yeah, we certainly are.
How are the Chinese?
You should track that over DH Unplugged.
They got their increased tax tariff.
It's impossible to really track them because they lie.
The Chinese?
Yeah.
Well, what are they lying about?
They laugh about their numbers.
You don't know what the hell's going on with them.
Someone sent me this, you know, for all you can say about him, Trump has been extremely consistent throughout the years.
Prior to his presidency, with the same talking points going back to Oprah's show in the late 80s, early 90s, and here he is addressing a crowd in 2011.
Was he running somewhere around that time?
He was just making noise about Obama, wasn't he, 2011?
He was running in the year 2000.
Right, but not 2011.
He was just making noise.
He's always running.
He's always promoting his show and running.
So here he is addressing a crowd specifically about taxing China and how to tax China and how to present it.
I see what China's doing.
I'll give you a little China story also.
China, I said the other day, very, very hard to buy anything outside of China.
Oh, certain other countries also, but China's, you know, the one.
And I said, somebody said, well, what would you do?
What can you do?
So easy.
I drop a 25% tax on China.
And, you know, I said to somebody that is really the messenger.
The messenger is important.
I could have one man say, we're going to tax you 25%.
And I can say another.
Listen, you motherfuckers.
We're going to tax you.
I guess he chose for the second way of doing it.
Jeez.
They're responding poorly, I understand.
The Chinese?
Yeah.
They don't like it.
Yeah, they don't like to be intimidated.
But you know what I'm reading everywhere is, oh, okay, fine, you know, you order this stuff and it gets shipped from Vietnam.
They're just kind of using Vietnam as a P.O. box now.
Well, I haven't heard this.
Where did you get this?
I've read it everywhere.
Have you gotten anything from Vietnam?
I have also received...
This is what tipped me off to it.
I used to buy art from both China and Vietnam.
Mm-hmm.
And different shops that did all kinds of custom, and it was just some fabulous artists in those areas, especially Vietnam.
They got a lot of, it's very artsy.
If you go to visit the country, you go, holy mackerel.
And I noticed, the one thing I noticed the most was that FedEx and whoever else it was had some deal So it was pretty much everything coming out of China was free shipping or it was a dollar.
And I was always befuddled by this because the same products out of Vietnam would cost like $30 in shipping minimum.
And it just seemed to me that how is China doing this deal with FedEx?
Or whoever it was, UPS, all of them.
They were all giving China this huge deal, or the Chinese were eating the price.
I don't know what was going on, but I thought it was, there was some moment of corruption.
Well, we ordered, when we moved in, we ordered a chair from West Elm, the company West Elm.
And we've ordered from them before, and as with pretty much all furniture, it comes from China.
But this time, because we've ordered from them in the past, this time it showed up.
Huge box.
Large print.
Made in Vietnam.
Don't think it's China.
Made in Vietnam.
No, it doesn't say made in China on the chair itself.
But I'm pretty...
And then I started looking into it, and I'm seeing they're either doing subsidiary deals with factories, but basically using Vietnam as a P.O. box.
No, I don't think so.
I think it was made in Vietnam.
Okay.
Could be.
I'm just saying we used to get from the same company.
It would be shipped from China.
The Chinese have been notorious for like moving their manufacturing.
It's funny.
The Taiwanese moved their manufacturing to China.
The Chinese got swamped and it's been a known fact that they've been outsourcing.
China has been outsourcing to Vietnam and India.
Okay.
Well, that makes sense then.
And so I would say this, the product will be better.
Yes, it probably will.
The Vietnamese products are outstanding quality.
It's a very interesting country.
Their literacy rate in Vietnam is higher than we have.
It's like 98.5% of the country is literate.
It's a very interesting place.
Okay, onward.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's doing anything, but I don't know what we're going to do about China.
What we're going to do is, what we've been doing is cut them off in the past, thwart them everywhere we can, mess up countries where they want to have a foothold for their Belt and Road strategy, and screw Venezuela in the process.
Yeah.
Which brings me to Venezuela.
I'm sorry.
I have a China-Venezuela clip.
Go with Venezuela.
Yes, I do.
I have three things from Venezuela.
This is from NPR. I have one.
I have one.
Let's play yours first.
What do you got?
Well, mine is about the local protest.
You know, Code Pink...
Yeah.
And all the rest of the democracy, they're all pro-Maduro.
For some reason, I don't know what.
And Code Pink has even protested Obama a lot.
They protest everything.
Everybody, yeah.
But they love Maduro, so they're protesting...
I think you can hire them for anything, so just highest bidder, isn't it?
Guaido people in and move the real Venezuelans out, if you want to call them real Venezuelans, as if Guaido isn't.
But let's play protests and weirdness at the Venezuelan embassy democracy now.
In Washington, D.C., authorities cut off water and electricity to Venezuela's embassy as activists with Code Pink and other organizations continue around-the-clock occupation in order to prevent a takeover of the building by Venezuela's U.S.-backed opposition.
The activists entered the embassy in late April at the invitation of Venezuela's government.
Opposition groups led by Juan Guaido and backed by the Trump administration have pledged to take over the building.
So far, police and Secret Service agents have arrested nine activists, including Jerry Condon, a 72-year-old Vietnam War veteran, and the president of Veterans for Peace, who was violently tackled and pressed to the pavement Wednesday by five officers after he tried to bring food to protesters occupying the embassy.
Condon was left bleeding from the head and needed medical treatment.
He's been charged with throwing a missile, resisting arrest, and assaulting police officers as he attempted to get food inside the building.
Did that report on the mainstream?
No, well, of course not.
This just in from one of our lawyers within the Value for Value Network.
I have been advised, and I can confirm that he's the real deal.
I've been advised by clients who buy from China as follows.
The manufacturers are moving to Vietnam from China, but the P.O. Box scam is being perpetrated in Malaysia.
So that's how they're rolling.
Okay.
Malaysia.
So look for some problems in Malaysia.
What can we stir up in Malaysia?
Okay.
Because that's what it seems to be.
We just want to thwart the Chinese.
This is Undersecretary of State Tom Shannon on NPR. And this first clip is about the failed coup, I'm sorry, flipping, in Venezuela.
How do the tools available to the United States compare to the vulnerabilities?
Up to this point, the tools have not been sufficient.
Really, beginning on January 23rd when Juan Guaido declared the presidency vacant and declared himself the president under the Constitution, the hope at the time was that that would be sufficient to flip the military.
It did not work.
Then the opposition, working with the United States and other countries, decided that focusing on humanitarian assistance and creating A confrontation at the border between Colombia and Venezuela over the delivery of humanitarian assistance would create a rebellion within the armed forces.
That did not work.
Then the administration decided that sanctioning the state-run oil company, PDVSA, and effectively sending a clear signal to the armed forces that revenues would be cut off and their access to the Venezuelan gravy train would end would convince the military to flip.
That did not work.
There's also been an effort to focus on individual members or former members of the military.
Some of them have been sanctioned.
And just the other day, Vice President Pence said the U.S. would aim to lift sanctions on an individual former intelligence chief, I believe, who switched sides.
Is that working at all?
Well, we'll have to wait and see.
The purpose, obviously, is to send the signal that those members of the armed forces that choose to work with the opposition, if they are under sanctions, will have those sanctions lifted.
And those who might be facing sanctions would not face them if they chose to work with the opposition.
We're going to have to wait and see how that's received.
What just amazes me is to listen to this guy cavalierly speak with an NPR host who easily could have been lamenting the Russians meddling in our elections.
Listen to this!
What tools do you have?
Well, this tool didn't work and that tool didn't work.
What are you doing?
Well, I'm going to jack Venezuela, obviously.
How about Russia and China?
The Russians have provided significant sales of weapons to the Venezuelan government along with purchasing large quantities of oil and gas and inserting themselves into Venezuela's oil and gas industry.
And then the Chinese of course also have deep interests in the oil and gas sector.
Is there any way to pry those foreign actors away from the Venezuelan government, Maduro's government?
NPR, your national public radio, is participating in this.
National public radical.
Yeah, we're strategizing how we can fuck the Chinese.
We're going to have to wait and see.
I personally believe that calling these governments out, especially the Chinese and the Russians, was not...
The Chinese in particular have been looking to play a very low-key role in this political dispute and are more interested in their long-term energy interests, and therefore it's important for the United States to make very clear to the Chinese that the long-term future of their relationships in South America are going to depend on China's willingness to help Venezuela find political accommodation that gets it through this period of crisis.
Yes, but also to make clear that countries who have China as a number one trading partner, like Brazil, like Argentina, like Chile, like Peru...
We want to maintain that relationship, but in order to do so, the Chinese need to understand that by financing the Maduro government, they are actually creating problems inside of South America, especially the outflow of refugees from Venezuela, that are seriously affecting the stability of countries like Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Chile, and Brazil.
Yeah.
There you go.
That's what we're doing.
You don't need to know anything else.
We are all over it.
Who is that guy?
That is the Undersecretary of State, Tom Shannon.
Does Shannon speak too much, me thinketh?
He's just way out there.
Oh yeah, no problem.
Getting some other tools.
I thought that was...
Yeah, I agree with you.
What is the point of this?
This is not like disinformation or some sort of misleading or anything to go on NPR and just explain the strategies.
This makes no sense.
That must be the way the Department of State is being run these days.
Now the techno experts that we've discussed who have targeted us when we talk about Venezuela and we're not doing it right, we're not talking about them right, I'm starting to see some patterns here as there are some young Venezuelan kids And I say kids in the 20 to 24,
25-year-old range who put together a video specifically meant for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who, as we know, is all in on Maduro's regime and the socialist country of Venezuela.
At least that's the way it's portrayed in the M5M. And then this video appears.
I'm going to play a little bit of it first.
You get the idea.
Let me tell you something, Alexandria.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I want to tell you something.
El socialismo no funciona.
El socialismo no funciona.
My name is José.
I'm 21 years old.
I am Samuel Machado.
I'm 22 years old.
I fled real socialism.
Me and my family fled real socialism.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
You're a liar.
You're a liar.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You're clueless.
You have never gone through socialism, so you preach it like you do.
America will never be a socialist country.
American will never be a socialist country.
A lot of people think socialism, it's all about equality and free stuff.
What socialism is really about, it's starvation.
People dying from lack of medicine.
Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, I want to...
Now, just notice that the lack of medicine, all the talking points are here.
Who produces stuff from Dave Birch Society?
No.
This is why I was interested in sharing this.
It goes on for about three minutes.
Just 30 more seconds to hear some of the other points you've heard in this type of campaign.
It's really about its starvation.
People dying from lack of medicine.
Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, I want to tell you something.
If you really believe in socialism, why are you here in the U.S.? Why don't you move to Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, Afghanistan, China?
Why don't you just go there?
You know, you talk about socialism as it is something so perfect, but you know it's not.
Well, no, actually, you really truly believe that it works like that, but it doesn't.
Just go and look at the actual facts, and not just the books.
Isn't it good to have your life going every day to Starbucks, tweeting how much you hate capitalism from your MacBook?
That's great, right?
Okay, so when I hear these things, you know, like, isn't it great drinking your Starbucks and tweeting how much you hate capitalism on your MacBook?
I'm like, okay, these are talking points.
I've heard them before.
And they sound a lot with that medicine thing and Maduro.
It sounds a lot like the emails we received.
This is produced and distributed by Turning Point USA, home of Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk.
These are the propagandists.
And now I'm starting to think maybe it was their outfit that sent us emails.
Who would know about podcasts?
Who would stay on top of that?
I was giving the U.S. State Department too much credit, I think.
So these may be the actors.
And how does this fit in with what I thought Turning Point USA was?
I don't know.
I never heard of them.
Well, you know Candace Owens.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, she's with the Blexit.
I like Candace Owens.
I like what she does.
I like what she does for Prager University.
But what is this?
These guys are...
It's a turning point USA. This is...
This is propagandistic crap.
And I can't take them very seriously after hearing this.
What do we know about them?
It's just like the...
Those horrible Democrat, the celebrity ones where the celebrity Democrats come up.
I'm not saying, I think we have to change the color of blue to green.
Yes.
Stuff like that.
Black and white.
Stuff like that.
Just some black and white too, probably.
Well, I'm going to look a little deeper into Turning Point and see if...
I know Charlie Kirk is...
And I thought he's...
I don't know.
I thought they were kind of a good outfit, but this is just propaganda crap.
Yes, yes!
Very sour.
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And you can get in there, you can do all kinds of stuff.
You can troll, you can troll some more, and then just troll.
Or you could also be helpful.
Sometimes that does happen.
No.
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Why does anybody want to be helpful?
Oh, no, that would be a bad idea.
And in the morning to, let me see, I believe it was, yes, Darren O'Neill, who brought us the artwork for episode 1136, 1,136 episodes.
That episode was titled Spy Slut.
Which is a CIA term we learned on the show.
And Darren O'Neill, oh yes, he brought us a fine example of what you don't like at a Whole Foods checkout line.
Someone with face tattoos, blown out earlobes.
And I think in this case, both Darren and I, Darren and we, kind of went for the...
The cheapest laugh, I guess?
Is that what we would classify this as?
Well, now that you mention it...
It's kind of gone for the cheap laugh.
Now that you started this analysis...
Nose ring, mustache, yeah.
...you saw in this piece of art.
Now this art...
Okay, there was a bunch of stuff that was actually...
It was all borderline.
I mean, kind of the funniest, sickest one was the Black Royal, which was Uncle Cave Bear.
Extremely racist.
Yes, racist piece.
I liked the mental health one the most, but it was more of an evergreen.
It didn't really have much to do with anything.
The cat with the phone...
It's funny, but not pertinent to the show.
The thing was, as we looked over these, the only thing that was pertinent to the show was the mustachioed character.
Yeah.
So that's really the reason we picked it.
And someone else made an email comment to us that the artwork is really just part of a package of three elements of promotion.
And I want to bring that up because it does work in concert.
We have the album art, we have the show title, and we have the opening blurb at the beginning of the show.
And each one of those three elements is important in promoting each new episode.
Personally, I think...
And we have made a rule, just not...
Yes, true.
Arbitrary.
This is your rule.
This is your rule.
You can't cross over.
Yeah, you can't have the artwork be the same or have the same topic as the title and the opening giblet can't be related to the other two either.
I don't know why we came up with it, why I put this in place, but I like it.
It makes us...
Well, once it became established, because at some point I think we did have a couple of contrary, well, let's call it this, ah, that's what the artwork is doing.
Um...
Once we became established, we just kind of said, okay, well, this is what we're going to do.
We can do it.
It's not like it's impossible.
People really want to hear that conversation.
I should record it when we're discussing artwork and titles.
Well, it's recorded.
You just recorded it.
No, I mean the actual process.
Oh, maybe.
One of the things we've noticed with the artworks as we're discussing it is people try to guess.
Oh, yeah, the topic that we will be interested in as art, yes.
Yeah, and so if we never mention it, and we get to the artwork, say, oh, this guy just, we didn't talk about it.
What's a disappointment is sometimes it's like a superior piece of art.
We say, wow, what a great piece of art.
It's too bad we didn't talk about this.
That does indeed happen.
We missed the topic.
Yeah.
Predicting what we're going to talk about and Pete Buttigieg being called Alfred E. Newman by President Trump is not on my list.
It's not something we were ever going to talk about.
No, not on my list.
At least not on this show.
No, I don't think so.
I will say that the art that was done here that makes him look like Alfred E. Newman is outstanding.
It's well done, yes.
It looks just like him.
Yeah, we'll probably go for a mom thing.
I think that's pretty obvious.
Mom is good.
Mom is always good.
Mom is always safe.
Safe bet.
Safe bet.
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He must be at a convention or something.
Something like that, yeah.
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Because I've been to these places and they usually have some pretty wild events.
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This was not on my instruction list that I got from the shill this morning, so I have to fill it in manually.
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I don't see it.
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European Parliament elections are coming up.
And it's very odd because due to the lag of Brexit, the European parties are in and they can vote on European representation since Brexit is not yet done.
The European Union, and just explaining this is kind of complicated, but I think it's interesting to do it without the visuals because the European Union had a little cartoon To explain exactly how it works.
Do you know how these European Parliament elections work?
I'd be remiss if I said I absolutely knew, but I don't.
Well, I find it to be rather confusing.
I'm sure...
Somehow Farage gets in is all I know.
The end of the day, Farage is in.
This year's European elections.
It's a big deal.
I love this kind of Eurocentric British accent.
It's very different from what you hear in the UK. It's very different than a real British accent.
Yeah, it is.
It's very Eurocentric.
They've got a whole room full of these people in Brussels who do nothing but these voiceovers.
But it's not simple.
Not.
To help you get your head around them, we've put together this handy explainer.
Confusingly, different parts of the EU use different voting systems, but all are some form of proportional representation.
Some vote for parties who have selected a fixed list of candidates to appear on the ballot paper.
Other countries have more open lists where voters choose a party or indicate who is their favourite candidate.
Here, electors choose as many candidates as they like and number them by preference.
Turnout at EU elections has dropped from 62% to 42% over the last four decades.
Because you made it so easy, that's why.
That's despite a handful of countries, including Belgium, Greece and Bulgaria, where voting is compulsory.
MEPs are elected to represent geographical areas, regions in some countries like Italy, while in others, such as Germany, they have the whole country as their constituency.
The number each country gets is proportional to its population.
Now this is kind of interesting.
When you hear the difference, it's pretty much the way our House of Representatives works.
Except they don't have the concept of a Senate with some equal power, so here it's just whoever's the biggest rules.
Germany, the most populous, will get 96 MEPs for its 82.8 million people, while tiny Malta, with 475,000 people, has just six.
They will serve a five-year term, 2019 to 2024, and spend their time between European parliaments in Strasbourg and Brussels.
They pass EU laws and approve its budget, along with the European Council.
MEPs, while representing countries or regions, sit in transnational groups in the parliament, according to political ideology.
For example, there are groupings to represent the centre-right, socialists, Greens, and others for Eurosceptics.
MEPs also help choose the president of the European Commission.
The largest political grouping after May's election has the strongest mandate to have its choice head up the Commission.
The European Council, comprising chiefs of EU countries, first votes on a nominee chosen after taking into account the election result.
If they approve the candidate, it goes to the European Parliament, where he or she must get the support of a majority of MEPs.
This is so convoluted.
It's crazy.
I don't think anyone in Europe is.
It's dumb.
It's like, what?
Your eyes glaze over, man.
Yeah, I did.
I still don't understand it.
Especially with that background music.
Is that meant to make me feel calm while trying to comprehend?
So everyone has a different system.
Everyone does it differently.
Then you throw a whole bunch of people out there, and then those people then go and determine who they...
Which could be a totally rando they could bring in to be the president of the European Parliament.
And then you get the...
Well, good luck.
Every country and every union gets the government she deserves, and you're getting all.
It's not really the government.
No.
It's a scam.
So as I'm looking around, since there's no news in America, at least I didn't feel anything really that newsworthy, I wound up watching Euronews.
And Euronews had a number of stories about Samos, the island of Samos, which is a Greek island, but it's an odd one because it is so far off the coast of Greece, it is actually very close to Turkey.
You could hop a little boat to get from the coast of Turkey to this Greek island.
And what has happened is Samos has been used as a parking place for migrants who want to come into Europe and are just being held there because the European Union is like, Yeah, we've got enough people.
Remember, they kind of closed some borders here and there.
Don't look at Greece.
Greece really doesn't count because they've got no money.
We don't care about them.
So Greece is pretty much the dumping site of the EU. And they had...
Well, I'm going to play the first piece here about...
Yeah, about what's happening and the numbers of what's taking place.
And then there was a 20-minute piece, which I pulled one little specific piece out of.
Here's the basic story of Samos talking to a person who set up a community center for these thousands of refugees living in a tent city with no sanitation, no garbage disposal, no sanitation, and no toilets.
Zero.
The situation hasn't improved in any way.
Right now, there's over 3,300 people on Samos.
The capacity of the camp is 650.
The delays on the asylum procedures are extremely long.
We've seen recently people getting interview dates for 2022, even someone for 2023 for their appeal, which is...
So they're sitting in, and these are UN, UNICEF, actually it says on the side, UNICEF tents.
With no poopers anywhere?
No, no, no.
The people are just pooping on the perimeter.
Hmm.
And they're next to farmlands and all kinds of stuff like this.
And these people are saying, I've been here for eight months.
I can't live here for another year and a half before I get my asylum hearing.
So I'm going to go crazy.
And of course, there's all kinds of crime now taking place.
It's incredibly long.
This is having people waiting for such a long period of time without any clear information, without knowing what's going to happen with them, without having a proper process where they can, an integration process in place, or having the possibility to work and provide for themselves.
It really affects people, especially their mental health, and this causes a lot of distress.
It doesn't look that things are going to change anytime soon because the system in place is broken right now.
Well, if we look at the EU-Turkey deal, it has never properly worked.
This is the EU-Turkey deal where if someone came into the EU, could not rightfully claim asylum, the EU paid several billion euros to Turkey to take them back?
We remember, I remember we covered this.
We're like, oh yeah, just send them back, no problem.
Well, that's not working out because they're not being sent back.
They're not being accepted.
Even though you could almost toss them off the island, they could swim back to Turkey.
Well, if we look at the U-Turkey deal, it has never properly worked.
People were supposed to, their cases were supposed to be treated very quickly and like the hotspot is supposed to be like a triage point where people that are supposed to get asylum, they are allowed to stay and those that are rejected their asylum, they would be quickly returned to Turkey or to their home country.
Right now what's happening is people are just waiting for months or years for their asylum procedure to be completed without knowing what's going to happen.
Even if they get a rejection, they are still staying here for a very, very long time.
And so, you know, there was a piece about some people who have their little house there, and they're literally on the other side of the fence, and they're feeding some of these people as they can.
You see the slop that they're getting that passes for food is just, I mean, this inhumane, animalistic circumstances makes you really think that our putting kids in cages is a good deal when you see this.
And is the EU helping out?
Right now, the policy of the European Union is to send a big chunk of money to the Greek government.
But the money does not reach the people on the ground.
It's not acceptable that someone has to live in a tent for eight months, a year, a year and a half, with no sanitation, no protection, no proper food, looking at the most vulnerable, like babies or children or pregnant women.
They have to live in a tent for a long period of time.
Yeah, there is a lot of money sent, but the money does not reach the ground.
So a lot of the initiatives, like this one that you see, like our group, We work a lot only on private donations.
Yeah, so that sounds like it's going extremely well.
So next time we have anyone in the European Union criticize us of our immigration policies, I'd like you to focus on the island of Samos.
They have done something, and what they've done is they've determined it would be better to move this camp a couple miles up the road so it's further away from the main drag, the main city.
Unfortunately, that puts it exactly half a mile from a little village.
A little picturesque village on the island of Samos in Greece.
And what Euronews did in this 20-minute piece, you know how they'll have someone talk and they'll just voice over a translation?
Overdubbing, I guess is what they'd call it.
Yeah.
Well, now it's like a complete radio play.
And with emotion.
So they have a couple of people at this impromptu town meeting, and it's a couple of old guys, a couple of old ladies, and they're all yelling, but you don't know what they're saying.
But they've chopped it all together with the Euronews translated voices, but they're acting.
I realized this is like a radio play.
The Greek government has promised to close down the Vathi refugee center soon and to open a new and bigger one a few kilometers away from the capital.
Georgios is the president of the village of Mitilini, next to which the new camp is set to be built.
Here are the former slaughterhouses.
Where the migrant centre is set to be installed.
And here you can see where my community is.
The distance is one kilometre, so you can understand that the problem of Vathi will come to our village.
The topic has inflamed the community.
A group of villagers is expecting us.
We do not let them go to the destination they want to go to, and we are keeping them here by force.
And so they are giving us their misery.
I mean, their misery becomes ours.
They just can't be people wandering around without us knowing who they are.
They might be criminals, thieves...
We don't want them here.
That's the issue.
They can take them wherever they want, but here we don't want them.
That's it.
We cannot live with those people.
They have 800 diseases.
If you go to the hospital, it is full of black people.
We know they steal.
We can't live with them.
We will take the law into our own hands.
Quite possibly.
This all sounds racist.
We are not.
Please don't associate us with this term.
But we've had it up to here.
Europe has closed its borders and it is Greece that has paid the price for it.
Those Europeans who take and give orders.
Can't they understand that the only thing they are going to achieve is the rise of the far right?
Little by little, they are pushing us to the extremes.
This is what Europe has succeeded in.
This is what you should tell them.
I don't know.
I thought it was kind of cool as a radio play.
Yeah.
That's funny.
Well, yeah, they can bitch and moan about what we do, but that's got to be a mess over there.
This whole thing is a joke.
You know, I'm reminded, I was listening to all this as you were just playing these clips, and I'm thinking...
The Europeans really don't have a culture to manage the EU. In the formation of the United States, even when we had 13 colonies, let alone when we started expanding, if you read the literature from that era, the Europeans scoffed at what we were up to, especially when we went independent and decided to become one big group, as opposed to the small colonies that were all owned by different parts of Europe.
In many ways, or slightly independent, but not too far, was that at the point of the 1776 era, it was believed that the country was too big to manage.
This is going to be the downfall of the United States is that these 13 colonies, you can't manage.
It's too much.
It'll never work.
Yes, exactly.
And so that was all of the agreement.
The French would say that, the Brits would say that, everybody.
It was too big.
I mean, look at the size of, you know, some of our countries, and it's already too big.
Meanwhile, so they go from that kind of thinking over hundreds of years...
And they don't change it into one language.
They don't do anything in Europe to make it easier.
They still have all their separate little languages.
And they decide to make one big monstrosity and try to manage it with a bunch of bureaucrats running it out of Belgium.
Does this make any sense to anybody historically?
No.
No.
And by the way, in the Netherlands, there's a smallish town that has a local newspaper, and the local newspaper was not allowed by the authorities to inform the community that there would be a new asylum seeker center that would be set up right near their town.
This is how bad it is.
What?
How did that go over?
Not very well.
In fact, the entire news desk quit the paper.
The paper quit itself, pretty much.
Why?
What's the paper got to do with it?
Because they were not allowed to publish this news.
They were forbidden from publishing this news.
So no one there knew about it until all of a sudden they start building this center.
Like, well, what is this?
Well, they're going to have asylum seekers over here.
Which, of course, in liberal Europe, everybody loves people seeking asylum, but you know where we don't want it.
Yeah, NIMBY. NIMBY, exactly.
Yeah.
Well, I do have some news from over here.
Really?
Stuff happened, okay.
I have a couple of clips that bother me because there's missing information.
All right.
This one here is the barge report from CBS where we had a little spill.
Late this afternoon, two barges and an oil tanker collided in a shipping channel in Houston.
One of the barges capsized after a hole opened up in its side.
It was carrying about 25,000 barrels of a toxic chemical used to make gasoline.
Some of that has spilled into the water.
Hmm.
When you hear that, what goes through your mind so far as information?
What information was kind of not told, was left out, it seems.
Well, whose barge was this?
Well, that's one of them, yeah.
That would be nice to know.
That would be interesting to know, yes.
Well, don't you think you have, aren't you even curious about what toxic chemical has gotten into the water?
Nah, it's Houston who gives a shit.
Well, besides that, let's say what's going on.
Oh, okay.
Let's say anything but Houston.
Yeah, I'd be interested.
Do we know?
Have we figured it out?
Do we know at all what's happening with this?
If you go look at the news reports, this was even more interesting.
Instead of a toxic chemical abuse, I'll read you some headlines from various stories.
Barge leaks gasoline product in Houston's ship.
Oh, I know what it is.
Barge and tanker collide, leaking gas product.
Mm-hmm.
Product.
Holy crap.
We're gonna die.
What is this stuff?
Well, what it turns out to be, if you do a little research...
Oh, I know what it is.
You don't even get into it in these news stories either.
They just call it Reformate.
I know what it is.
I know what it is.
It's the stuff that turns the frogs gay.
No.
That's Atrazine.
Right, Atrazine, yes.
Atrazine.
And it's not used in petroleum products.
No, they call it...
All these news articles talk about it as Reformate.
Reformate is just kind of a witch's brew of crap.
That comes off of various catalytic powers.
So it's a waste product?
No, it's not a waste product.
It's all high-end stuff.
Oh, it's the good stuff.
But it's all mixed up.
So you have toluene and naphthene.
You've got benzene, which is carcinogenic.
Xylene.
A lot of xylene.
Yeah.
So you have all these aromatics and some benzene and some other chemicals, which is brew.
And it makes...
Boost the octane of normal gasoline.
That's some supercharged fish in Houston, then.
Well, the thing that was left out of the report, in my opinion, is the fact that benzene, which is highly carcinogenic, was leaked into the water, and nobody's talking about it.
Damn.
And not just a little bit.
No, tons.
So this is a cover-up, then.
It's poor reporting.
No, it sounds more like...
The public's going to get all bent out of shape if you say that.
So, yeah, don't want to get the public bent out of shape about the fact that you've got a bunch of benzene in the water, which is not a good product.
But, yeah, but the way they cover it up, toxic, you know, toluene is not...
These things aren't...
They're all over the place.
But this stuff will get into the water supply eventually, won't it?
I don't know.
Most of it evaporates.
No.
It's all high-end.
I mean, it's all...
Very volatile, so it'll go away.
Oh, so not that big a problem.
No, if you boil the channel, the stuff will come right off.
Don't worry, just boil your arm.
It'll rub right off.
Let's already say, I always tell people, you know, if you're going to use these, you know, most oils, I don't want to get a little extra on this, but most oils that you get, unless they're specifically, say, expeller or crushed, depends on how the oil is made.
But, you know, first virgin olive oil, first press is pressed.
A lot of oils are expellers, and the expellers spin it around, and it comes out of the seeds and whatever.
But most oil production, like the mozzola, the giant gallons of oil that you get, it tends to be a hexane extractor, which is the easiest way to pull oil out of nuts and fruits and whatever you pull in the seeds.
Whatever you're pulling the oil out of is you extract with hexane.
Make a mash, put hexane in there, flash it off, and you end up with some oil.
The problem is there's always – I believe, I believe that there's no way you can flash all the hexane off and so you end up with some residual hexane in the oils.
And now a lot of the natural food fanatics, oh my god, you can't use these oils for anything.
You can use these oils.
I also believe – Based on just basic chemistry, that if you – yeah, if you take the corn oil that's been hexane extracted and use it in your salad dressing, you're probably going to ingest some.
So you don't use that.
You use olive oil.
Of course.
Of course.
We don't use – But if you're going to use it for making French fries, once you heat that oil up to 320 plus degrees, if there's any residual in there, it's gone.
So it's safe.
So do I go long oil or short?
I don't know.
I love how you know it.
I love you to throw out the, based on basic chemistry, you lost me at chem.
Yeah, well, you know, things flash off.
Now, does that work with chicks?
No, it turns out, unless they're chemistry nerds, it seems unlikely.
It doesn't really work with any of them.
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure.
No, it's not a chick magnet thing.
I'm just doing it for people out there who like to cook, and they always read about this and that, about these overpriced expeller oils.
I mean, I cook, I try to cook, when I french fry, I try to cook in safflower or sunflower oil, which is a really good oil for deep fat frying.
I've gotten kind of hooked on the sorghum syrup.
I know.
Growing up in Holland, in the Netherlands, for breakfast, there's really...
Certainly younger kids will have a slice of bread, or maybe two slices, buttered up, margarine actually, and then they either put chocolate flakes on there or chocolate sprinkles.
They can also do the colored sprinkles, but also molasses, just spreading molasses on top of the butter.
Right.
And I grew up eating that.
Or they can go the other way and have a piece of bread, again, with the margarine slash butter, then slices of young-aged Gouda cheese.
That would be another fan favorite in the morning, but also for lunch.
And I just took a piece of bread and I put some butter on it.
I put the sorghum syrup and, oh my God, it took me back.
It was delicious.
It's delicious.
It sounds like it should taste like poop.
Sorghum.
That doesn't sound appealing, but when you try it, it's good, man.
I had a sorghum pancake for breakfast today.
We should try my sorghum syrup on your sorghum pancake.
You know, I like the one great delicacy that the United States has pretty much locked down in Canada.
Aunt Jemima.
Aunt Jemima.
Is maple syrup, not Anchemima.
Anchemima is got sugar water.
Fructose corn syrup and all kinds of crap in it.
Who knows what's in there?
But a real 100% maple syrup is a delicacy and it's rather cheap considering how rare and valuable it is.
Around the world, it's very expensive.
Yeah.
So, alright, back to off the food thing.
Okay, well, just a few updates.
Jussie Smollett will not return to Empire for next season.
He's done.
Oh, he's on again, off again.
No, I guess now it's off.
Because they, you know, Fox, it's Fox, yeah, Fox made their decision, said no, it's not worth it, so he's off.
Good.
Liar.
Yeah, good.
We do like fries with that.
Bernie Sanders and AOC are calling for the creation of government-owned banks run by the U.S. Post Office.
And I wanted to say...
Would you like your savings in stamps?
Well, I've used this system when I was growing up.
It was quite popular in the Netherlands.
And it was called Post Hero.
And you literally did your banking at the post office.
Or you could do it through the mail, which was free.
And you filled out your little card for payments.
And it's still there.
And you can still...
Now they do it online.
But what interests me is...
Why don't they promote...
Credit unions.
I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be a government-run thing for it to be more of a non-profit model and a bank that's not trying to screw you over, or at least is being honest about it and not getting back-end deals for the worst they screw you.
And that's a credit union.
We have them all over the United States.
And they are community banking to its maximum.
You don't have to be in a union.
Yeah.
But having a banking system within the post office, I mean, I don't know if we could do it with our postal system, but it's not a bad idea, necessarily.
I've seen it work.
I've seen it work.
Yeah, you've seen it work, but a lot of post offices, because they're little fiefdoms in the United States, it'd be some issue with customer service.
Oh, well, I mean, I don't have a mailbox, so just imagine, like, you move, like, sorry, you don't have any money.
Sorry, we don't know where your money account is.
It's gone.
So I caught another clip that I consider something of a gaffe or maybe not.
I'm not sure.
But it would seem to me that if you were a newsreader or an expert or Remember the woman who was the head of Planned Parenthood, the kind of the...
Yes, Cecile Rogers.
Yes, Cecile Rogers.
No, no, no, no, not Rogers.
Cecile...
Richards.
Richards, yes.
I like her.
I've always liked her.
She's Ann Richards' daughter, if you remember.
Yes, I do.
Yeah, from the Texas governor.
She's starting to look...
I know what you were going to say.
She's attractive, except more recently, having been booted out of Planned Parenthood, she really is starting to look like George Soros.
Oh, man!
I saw her recently.
I didn't catch the Soros vibe.
Yes, yes.
She's getting that Sith look for you, for your Star Wars folk.
Yeah, she's starting to look Sith.
So, I mean, that's a drawback.
But she was on with Amy, and there's a little gaffe in here.
I want to see if you can spot it.
I don't know that you will, but you might.
But I did immediately, and I had to go back and say, oh, this is bullcrap.
How can you not know this?
Okay, let's have a listen.
And anyone who wants to be elected has to respond to the issues that women care about.
So that'll be a lot of the organizing work we're doing, both online and offline in the coming months.
Four Democratic women have now announced their plans to run for president.
The significance of this for you, and will you be endorsing?
I think the importance of, obviously, there's no way to overstate the importance of women running for president, and I'm thrilled that they are, and I think they're raising issues that have long been needed to be raised.
I think it's disturbing to see what I believe is a real double standard in how they are being treated versus the many, many, many Men that are running for president, you know, two-thirds of political reporting is still done by men.
And so I'm hoping that both through supermajority, through other folks that follow the media, we can actually be lifting up the important work that these women have done.
As you probably know, these are women who, in large part, have never lost a political race.
And so when people talk about women being unelectable, I think it's really important to look at their record because it stands up really in contrast to a lot of the men who are actually in the race right now.
Hmm.
Who is she working for now?
Oh, it's some...
It's like not a lobbying group, but it's some, you know, NGO kind of an operation.
And why did she leave?
I don't know.
The point of the clip was more about the gaffe, which I think was inexcusable considering we have Amy, who's a newsreader and knows that, should know about this because it's about, they're talking about women politicians and Richard should have said something.
So what was the gaffe?
There are four women running for president, is the gaffe.
There's five.
Uh...
Okay.
I consider it a huge gap.
If you're a woman, and you're all up for women running for the...
Alright, but name them now.
If you counted Hillary, it would be six, but Hillary's not running.
There are five, not four.
And I think they purposely forget one, and I think the one they keep forgetting is Tulsi Gabbard.
Tulsi Gabbard, yes.
They don't even consider her a contender for some reason.
Yes, they eschew her.
That is so weird.
So they stick a thumb in her eye and they say four.
The four they're talking about is Klobuchar, Harris, Warren, and Gillibrand.
Right.
And the fifth one is Tulsi Gabbard.
That's so rude.
But it's not unexpected.
First of all, I like Tulsi Gabbard.
By the way, Tulsi Gabbard is the only anti-war one.
We're talking about the war in peace.
That's what I'm saying.
That's the whole point.
I like Tulsi Gabbard a lot.
I've liked her since we first became aware of her five years ago, maybe six years ago.
And said that she could totally be president.
But her message is wrong.
She hates war.
As a veteran, she's been in war.
And so that's wrong.
But she also has...
Yeah, she has zero stage presence.
I mean, she's stately, and she speaks thoughtfully and slowly, but who gives a crap?
No one wants that anymore.
We need to see fire and passion.
We need most modern people.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
We need fire and passion and pissed-offness.
She doesn't have any of that, but for her to just be excluded by these top women is very lame.
I can't say that.
She's the one they excluded, which are sure, because they never mention names, but it's obvious to me.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
So there's only four women running.
Yeah.
Yeah, bullcrap.
And I'm looking at her Wikipedia page, but...
Oh, what is...
No, it doesn't say where she's currently working.
It's some weird organization.
I'd like to know what happened there, because I actually thought she was on her way into politics.
It seemed like she would be perfect to do some good in the Democratic Party.
Yeah, it must have been some scandal no one ever wanted to bring out.
Something's going on, yeah.
Maybe we just missed that.
If you dodge the needle for measles, that's illegal.
For if you catch the measles, you will die.
Die!
Die!
Yes, yes.
Tracking the measles because it's just so much fun to do.
We've spread over to Europe, 100,000 people with the measles.
Just tell them how important it is.
I mean, measles is a horrible disease and it can kill.
It does spread very, very quickly.
And so the only way to protect yourself is to make sure you've had the full course of vaccine.
And it's never too late.
Just because your child is a little bit older now, they can still go and get their vaccine from the GP. Yeah!
Yes!
Everyone go get your shots!
Get your booster!
Who didn't get these shots?
How do you get all these people getting infected?
These shots are distilled water.
I think this is a scam.
You know, I'm with you.
It's like everyone's so worried.
Now, we know that if you've been inoculated...
You cannot get it again.
If you've had it, you cannot get it again.
But now there's these wishy-washy, you need a booster, 94, 97.
Look, if you're protected by the vaccine, then what are you worried about?
Why is everybody freaking out?
Alabama County Fair.
Oh, my.
There was a five-month-old baby.
The measles.
Everybody freak out!
Live at five, we first broke this four.
Live at five!
We are on the four.
The new information that the testing for that St.
Clair County baby presumed to have measles was negative.
Negative!
Oh my God!
Woo!
Woo!
Sigh of relief!
Woo!
Information from Alabama's Department of Health.
Would you find out, Alan?
Woo!
Well, those are the results.
Remember, we've been saying this all along.
While there was concern she might have had, measles, we're talking about that five-month-year-old infant over in St.
Clair County, but tests had to be done.
It had to be done by the CDC. The tests were done.
Eventually, the public health department released late this afternoon.
It might be a rash of some sort, but it's definitely not measles.
Now, we can tell you the public health department, they are investigating about 80 cases right now in Alabama as an investigation.
The public health department has already dismissed 170 of those investigation and cases.
Again, those were not measles.
State health officials, we've been.
That must be that fifth disease that we were talking about.
If it's not measles, things like, well, it's not measles.
Move on!
Hold on.
I think that's kind of important to know.
If there's something that looks like measles, it gets everyone all freaked out that it's measles?
I'm telling you, as you heard, St.
Clair County, that little girl, it was presumptive positive until the actual...
Presumptive positive.
Nice.
...tests were done and examined, and that was by the CDC. So no measles in Alabama.
But remember, we have those 80 investigations.
And, of course, we can also tell you the health department, they look into communicable vaccinated cases, possible diseases, all the time.
So this is not that...
I should be an auctioneer.
I think that's what he's doing.
He's auctioning off this idea that we all need to get a shot!
I did catch up with Dr.
Karen Landers today.
She's with the Public Health Department.
Tell me, overall, Alabama is still in very good shape when it comes to measles.
We're a highly vaccinated state.
Still, you know, there is that possibility.
Somebody unvaccinated gets exposed elsewhere.
You meant to vaccineer.
Comes here, could cause a problem.
If you have any questions, again, check with your doctor.
He'll let you know if possibly if you need to get a booster or not.
Ah, get your booster.
I think we should get boosters.
Let's get boosters for our anniversary, baby.
Let's get a booster together.
And there's some Yahoo jamoke in San Francisco who's been, you know, if you want to get out of this, you know, you can buy your way into school, you can buy your way out of vaccines.
We showed up at the offices of Dr.
Kenneth Stoller on Broadway, whose medical records will be reviewed by the San Francisco City Attorney's Office.
This is part of an ongoing investigation into whether or not this particular doctor was granting medical exemptions to patients that didn't qualify for them.
There's no hiding the fact that Stoller has issued medical exemptions for vaccination purposes.
We found people had written on Google Review about his work.
I am so grateful to have...
This is now journalism.
Well, we checked out the web and we got a Google Review page.
It's like Yelp, only shittier.
Yeah, let's read that for everybody.
We found people had written on Google Review about his work.
I am so grateful to have found him to help my son regarding vaccinations.
Another posted, we sought out, Dr.
Stoller, when in the middle of spring of last year, my daughters were being asked for new vaccine exemptions.
Senate Bill 277, which went into effect in 2016, says you can no longer cite religious or personal beliefs to get out of vaccinating children.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, you can only get out of it if you have cancer or if you have an immune system issue, which, quite honestly, you know, you've got a lot of other problems going on.
Of course, you want to introduce a virus, but you probably also shouldn't be in school with an immune issue.
Listen, keep playing that clip.
But the two state senators behind 277 allowed for medical exemptions, which include a person's family history.
Dr.
Stoller's attorney Skyped with us from back east.
So there are a group of doctors in California that have taken these two senators at their word.
And are issuing broader indications based on family history, just like these senators said they could do.
But now State Senator Richard Pan, one of the authors of the bill, says the law has been exploited by some doctors.
As you know, we're having measles showing up.
People are bringing it into our state.
And we can't have measles spreading rapidly through a school.
How does that work if 99% is vaccinated?
How can it spread rapidly through the school?
It makes no sense unless they're shooting people up with distilled water in charge of 10 to 20 bucks.
It's Occam's razor, really.
And we can't have measles spreading rapidly through a school.
He's now behind another bill, 276, this time calling for the state health department to vet all medical exemptions.
And both State Senator Pan and the City Attorney's Office say they are most concerned with kids who cannot get vaccinated because they either have cancer or a compromised immune system.
They say...
Wow, she said that almost with disdain.
These kids, because they've got cancer, you can't get your shot because you've got cancer?
What's wrong with you, kid?
And the City Attorney's Office say they are most concerned with kids who cannot get vaccinated because they either have cancer or a compromised immune system.
They say...
Yeah, these stupid-ass kids.
They're the ones in real danger.
Oh, yeah.
California's becoming Florida with these crazy stories.
I got a California story similar.
I just wanted to say, before you move on, I just wanted to say something about this.
This semi-vax talk that we have, because we're not anti-vaxxers, we're just, you know...
Yeah, you keep bringing this up, yes.
It's important.
You got to say it.
I want to say it for people who are just new listening to us.
We appreciate what you are a part of, not you, John, but what everyone else is a part of with this program.
You can't say this stuff and post it on YouTube.
You can't say this stuff and put it on Facebook.
You can't say this stuff and, oh, listen to my great show on SoundCloud.
You can't, you know, we can't sell CDs of this on Etsy.
Just because you're asking questions, you get kicked off of that, which is why we use the actual internet and all the pieces that it includes.
Let me close out the segment.
Measles.
How vulnerable is the general public right now?
Cases have been surging, and that is a 25-year high.
Are you sure it's the measles?
Yeah.
All right.
The measles.
Well, in San Francisco, they have this story.
This is teacher has to pay for her replacement story.
The California teacher who is battling breast cancer isn't just facing mounting medical fees.
She is also being forced to pay for her own replacement.
Turns out it is the law.
Here's Jamie Ucas.
She's a veteran second grade teacher at San Francisco's Glen Park Elementary School.
We're choosing not to identify her to protect her privacy.
When parents heard she was actually required to pay for her own substitute, they were outraged and launched a GoFundMe page to help cover costs.
I could not believe that this could be happening, that this would be a law.
The more I found out, the more angry I got.
Teachers can use 10 paid sick days per school year.
Once those are exhausted, they can use 100 days of extended sick leave and receive their regular salary minus the substitute's pay.
It doesn't seem fair at all.
Connie Leyva chairs the California Senate's Education Committee.
We would never want one of our teachers who is basically educating our future to be worried about where their family's going to be when they're out battling cancer.
Since the GoFundMe page was launched at the end of last month, nearly $14,000 has been raised, well over the $10,000 goal.
The teacher posted an appreciation.
My heart is lifted, and it gives me so much strength to know that so many people care about me and my family.
I hope next year our leaders in Sacramento will take a hard look at that and make sure that they change the language and the law.
Jamie Ucas, CBS News.
When are you guys leaving the union?
No.
Can't come quick enough.
Can't come quick enough.
Now, I have one clip I want to play, which I think is, I don't know if we're going to get to it or not, but we are now.
Because we talked about this in the last couple of shows.
I think we've discussed the false flag.
Yes, we're quite familiar with the flag of falseness.
And it's going to be...
In Iran.
We need an Iranian false flag.
That's why we got the fleet out there.
This is the latest from CBS. And by the way, Jeff Glor is quitting, or got fired from the CBS Evening News.
He did have a very...
I have a little short...
His sign-off is very sweet because it was mostly about the crew.
He didn't talk too much about himself.
And then he actually quit on Friday, quit the show early and talked about the crew and he said he wanted to thank every one of them.
Then they did a slow roll of the credits, which is what you usually do if the show's not long enough.
But in this case, it was like he walks off the thing and they do this unbelievably slow roll of just not only everybody that's on this show.
Interns.
Interns.
Because I know they don't have eight.
Well, not on that particular night, but...
No, but that's the point.
Well, anyway, they did a slow roll, but Jeff Glores, I do have his last sign-off.
It's kind of sweet.
We don't need to play it.
Well, I want to hear it now.
No, no, you set it up.
Okay, we'll play it.
As we leave here tonight, I just want to say thanks.
How long was he in this job?
A year?
Two years.
He took over from Pelley.
First it was Anthony Mason took over from Pelley and then they kicked him to the field and they brought Gloria in.
I thought, well, I like the way Mason was presenting.
And I like Gloria because he's got a very nice, he's got an extremely pleasant professional voice.
He's not a flubber.
And he seems objective, unlike Pelley, who is a Trump hater.
And so what are they going to do?
They're going to get rid of Glor, and they're bringing in the Trump hater, Nora O'Donnell, from the morning show, and she's going to be, she's a flubber.
She's not going to be able to sit there and seriously read the news.
What are they thinking?
By the way, according to the Mueller report, ever since you got canned from PC Magazine, you've become a Trump supporter.
Yeah, I didn't see that in there, so that's bull crap.
Well, someone said so on Twitter, so it must be true.
So, let's hear...
Anyway, so Glor...
I want to hear his goodbye.
Let's hear Glor's goodbye.
Oh, yeah.
As we leave here tonight, I just want to say thanks.
This is a short broadcast, but a long game.
Through it, all the people who put on the evening news remain committed.
This program will be moving to Washington, D.C. in the coming months.
I wish Nora O'Donnell the best of luck, though she won't need it.
Because of all the people...
I heard it.
I wish her the best of luck!
I wish Nora O'Donnell the best of luck, because she won't need it, because of all the people backing her up.
So I'd like to use the time I have left on this night to recognize them.
Their hours are long and unpredictable.
Their family and friends are unfailingly patient.
Oh, no.
Thanking the crew.
Yeah.
It's an old one.
It's a team effort.
I think my crew...
These guys screwed me over!
We don't know what happened.
They're bringing it Nora O'Donnell to take my place?
Are you kidding me?
That's what he should have said.
I bet she tests really well, though.
Wait until she starts doing it.
I think she tests well.
Who is it they brought in?
That woman?
I think it was also brought into CBS that the morning woman from the Today Show was...
I can't remember her name.
She was terrible.
Just because it's nice to have a woman anchor, but you can't do it.
I mean, the epitome of female anchors on news reading is Amy Goodman.
What happened to Connie?
Connie Chung.
Yeah, whatever happened to Connie Chung?
I think she married Mari Povich.
No, she did marry him, but she was actually pretty good.
Yeah, but she was your stereotypical Asian woman news model.
I will say this.
They had, and I don't want to sound like a racist, but the Asian newsreaders I've seen, because we have a lot of them in the Bay Area, they come and go.
There was one woman here that you would just sit and waiting.
I mean, I don't care who you are and how good you are.
You can't go weeks after weeks after weeks of daily news reading with never, never making a flub saying something.
There was this woman, I can't remember her name, but she would scream through the news and she would be flawless.
And I'm thinking, well, maybe some Asian newsreaders just have a skill set that you can't otherwise achieve.
And so Connie Chang, I think, was in that league.
Nora O'Donnell will not pull this off.
Oh.
She won't pull it off.
You watch.
That wasn't racist at all, by the way.
I don't understand what you were worried about.
I'm always worried because you keep calling me out on it.
Well, you're a misogynist.
That's all hell.
Okay.
Back to Iran.
The reason why we think that it's ripe for a false flag is, A, I mean, come on.
It's what they do.
It's fun.
B, we had Pence specifically tell a group of Iranians behind closed doors, which was, oh, not Pence, Pompeo, State Department, former CIA. We'll get it.
Eventually.
Specifically told them, which means, you know, it had to leak out.
We're just holding back.
We're not doing anything.
No aggressive moves from us.
It's not going to be us.
Whatever you see might happen, it won't be us.
We're not doing anything.
So that means, of course, that there's something afoot.
And meanwhile, they take the Abraham Lincoln and about eight destroyers.
10,000 sailors.
Hello, sailors.
And they send them right, and nobody's saying this is...
Yes, Tulsi Gabbard.
Tulsi Gabbard's all over it.
Haven't you heard?
I haven't heard that, but here's the report from CBS with Jess.
Iran's Revolutionary Guard today ruled out any talks with the U.S. aimed at getting Tehran to give up its nuclear program.
This is Tensions Grew with a new show of force in the region.
Here's David Martin.
A carrier strike group has already passed through the Suez Canal, and B-52 bombers already landed at an airbase in the Persian Gulf.
But the Pentagon is sending even more forces to back up its warnings to Iran.
Patriot air defense missiles, an amphibious assault ship, a nuclear-powered submarine, along with fresh supplies of precision-guided weapons are all on their way.
In response to intelligence reports, Iran is preparing to attack American troops or diplomats.
Secretary of State Pompeo has warned any attacks will be answered with a swift and decisive U.S. response.
In an interview with Margaret Brennan for Face the Nation, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he's worried the stage is being set for a conflict neither side wants.
If the Iranians make the mistake of launching an attack in the Persian Gulf on an American warship, the administration probably won't have any alternative but to retaliate.
The carrier Lincoln must first pass by Yemen, where Iranian-backed rebels have in the past fired missiles at American ships.
And once it arrives at the entrance to the Persian Gulf, it will be operating under the noses of Iran's hardline Revolutionary Guard units.
David Martin, CBS News, the Pentagon.
You know, I really hope Trump has a handle on what's going on here.
Because all these things can just collapse so poorly.
And really, they're ratcheting up the Syrian thing again.
Oh, Assad is bombing.
I didn't even clip it.
It was so insulting.
Assad is bombing hospitals again.
Killing children and patients.
Hospitals.
The war machine is huge!
Well, this particular situation is so obvious.
We're shipping all these armaments.
Yeah, 10,000.
10,000 on sailors alone.
Yeah, and here's the one thing that is never discussed by any of these news operations.
Because if you were working in D.C., you could ask somebody.
You have their Pentagon briefings.
The question is, what does it cost?
To move the Abraham Lincoln and all the new gear and fly the B-52s and take all those ships and move them into the region right next to Iran, what does it cost?
How much does it cost to move all this gear over there in the first place?
It's got to cost a fortune.
I'm pretty sure we can find the answer in the Mueller report.
Space Force!
That's what it is.
The so-called media is so bad.
I mean, it's hard enough.
Even if you put something in a headline in the New York Times, most people won't really know about it.
It's got to be headline news for days and days and days.
It's got to be hammered.
There's too much media, too much noise.
People tune it out.
They've got other things to do.
They don't care.
So the machine is very good at the repetition because that's what works.
Why do you see the same damn princess toast commercial for the stupid vitamin C gummy bear for your moronic kids?
And I don't have kids and I keep seeing this ad.
Well, I have one, but not too many of the gummy bears.
It's because it works and you remember it.
But they're not.
All they're doing is muller, muller, muller, bar Trump, muller, muller, muller, bar Trump, muller, muller, muller, bar Trump, muller, muller, muller, Nothing.
Not informing the American people.
And I'm sure it's not much better anywhere else.
No, well, you know it's not.
Let's go.
Here's an interesting one.
This is a story.
Yeah, sorry.
This is a story that...
We should take our break.
Unless it's related, we should do a break here.
Yeah.
Oh my god!
I'm gonna show my soul by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
Alright, we do have a few people to thank for show 1137, starting with Arthur Gobitz.
Gobitz, or Gobitz?
Sir Arthur Gobitz.
And he actually sent a note in Dutch, and I just wanted to say, I'll translate on the fly.
Adam, this is my Mother's Day donations for my mom, who's had a hard time recently with my dad, who has a broken hip.
His brother or son has ADHD. No.
No, he says it's really tough to have a son who has ADHD who just became a Viscount.
Oh, I guess he's talking about himself.
He needs health and relationship karma for dad, but especially for mom, a Mother's Day call-out.
So I wanted to make sure he did that.
And since he is, of course, Sir Arthur Gobetz, I will hand out a karma as well.
You've got karma.
I know I'm going off book, but it's Sir Arthur.
Sir Hugger of Kitties.
Well, I read the names and donations.
You will be looking for the Mother's Day call-outs because it was an open style, which means you can donate any amount and then we'll call out your mom if...
You so mention it.
Yes.
In other words, you mention your mom.
We'll call her out.
Okay.
That's the way this worked.
It wasn't a big success, but it was something we did.
But we do it every year in hopes that it'll work.
And yet again, no.
It's just...
Valentine's Day is worse, which makes me really wonder.
People are fighters, not lovers here, man.
David Rosenfeld, $125.
Nothing about his mom.
No, he's a good guy, but it's nothing about his mom.
Jeffrey Jacques, Jacques, Jeffrey Jacques.
Yeah, Happy Mother's Day to my mom, Jackie, and my wife, Marty, and to all No Agenda followers, mothers, wives, and sisters.
Dr.
Jeff in Manhattan.
12345.
Hocus Locus, 11843.
His message was, please disregard this message.
Fantastic.
Stephen Draper in Arlington, Virginia, $111.10.
No note at all.
Brian in Portland, Oregon.
Nope.
Sir Tristan Banning in Toronto, which is $139 Canadian, he likes to say.
Chad Finkbeiner, $100, and his first donation, give him a dedouching.
You've been dedouched.
Lynn Fogwell, $100.
Rob Van Dyke, $100 from the Netherlands.
Sir Patrick Coble, of course.
Earl of Tennessee, $99.99.
Happy Mother's Day.
Happy Mother's Day to my best friend, my wife, and mother of our two kids.
You are awesome!
And we appreciate everything you do for our family.
I'm also blessed to have my mom and her mom in our lives.
A lot of moms in that.
Nice.
Probably why he's traveling so much.
Sir Crow, the Fiber Knight, 8008.
Happy first Mother's Day to my smoking hot wife, Kim.
Boob for breast milk?
What?
8008.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Asked for human resource and job karma back in November.
Got dividends on both.
Should have also asked for birthing karma.
Okay, turn 30 on May 11th.
Yes, Sir Crow, the Fiber Knight.
You're on the list for today.
Alexander Stolzberger, 8008.
Sir D.H. Slammer, uh...
69, 69.
And he's got some requests for some stuff we'll put at the end, hopefully.
Matthew Mungin, 69.
Sir Dwight the Knight, 6789.
Baron Mark Tanner, 6789.
What's his specialty, as a matter of fact, 6789.
Jonathan Greenlee, 5858.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Jonathan Greenlee, happy Mother's Day to Mother Milne of the Rock River Valley, your loving son J.G., and the kids.
Miguel Lopez, 5678.
Happy Mother's Day to Mom Mercedes and his smoking hot wife Tanya.
Adam Conklin, 5555.
David Good, 5512.
Sending you some cash to give my lovely...
Uh, lovely maybe wife?
No.
My lovely and loving mother, Nelda, a podcast shout-out.
Don't worry, she'll never hear it.
What's a podcast and such?
Thanks.
Robert Smiley, 5510.
For his mom, Betty, even though she's Dementia B, I still love her.
Dementia B. Okay.
Nicholas Zumas, 510.
No, he says, for Mother's Day, call out my wife Katie's a douchebag for not being subscribed to the newsletter.
No, we're not going to do that.
We don't douche women for that.
Well, you're getting it, aren't you, Nicholas?
It's enough.
Just make her read it.
Forward it to her.
Just make her life miserable.
Ryan Brady, 5510.
Happy Mother's Day, Mom.
If you still listen.
We're doing well with moms, aren't we?
Yeah, this is part of the problem.
All love, 5510.
Yeah, yay, Mom, Sir Daddy Castle of the Love House.
Cynthia Burke, 55.
Yeah, that's to her, Mom.
I love you, Mom, Cindy, she says, okay?
Now we've got somebody who decided to write War and Peace, which of course in my spreadsheet I can't see.
We should come up with just a suggestion because I've done this myself.
Christopher King.
The joke is you wrote War and Peace.
What would be a hipper version of that?
Shouldn't it be like the Kicked Over the Hornet's Nest trilogy or maybe Tolkien or Lord of the Rings?
We need to update when we say that.
Well, we don't say it.
Ah, it's my joke.
I say it all the time, and you want me to change it.
No, I say it too.
Yeah, you know what?
Change it.
Work on that.
Just work on your material.
Atlas Shrugged.
The Bible?
The Bible?
Atlas Shrugged.
I don't know.
Atlas Shrugged.
Atlas Shrugged.
This is my first donation, he says.
And special shout out to both mothers and the MFers that made them that way.
Okay.
No names.
15, 55 bucks.
You're not reading this entire note.
There's no way.
No.
It just goes on too long.
Yes.
Sir Mike from Ewing, New Jersey.
Happy Mother's Day.
Happy birthday to my smoking hot wife, Chris.
Yes, she is on the list.
He's also, he gave 54-67.
Laura Wilson, 53-53, if I can say it, in Sammamish, Washington.
And she says, Happy 53rd to Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades.
May 12th is his birthday, same day as her daughter graduates college.
Very nice.
Robert Roberts 5150.
In honor of his awesome mom Stephanie Gunter, a cowhand in California and tougher than any man I know, he says.
Seriously, and the random number theory continues, we have Austin Wilson, obviously in relation to Laura Wilson in Sammamish, Washington, 5120.
Yes, happy Mother's Day to Dame Laura of the Snowy Cascades from Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades.
It's quite the day as our daughter graduates from...
So these two, they are so loving, this family.
And they're both surprising each other, and they both mention their daughter.
Beautiful, beautiful family.
Stuart Walton, 51.
What is the date today?
They're graduating from college in the middle of May?
Elise just graduated.
She just came home Friday.
They're just trying to cut the year down, these guys.
Love to mom Jill in Stansted, Montfichet, in the UK, from her son Stuart and Simon.
85, still going strong, never had a fight, reads the newspaper without their glasses.
And that's Stuart Walton, $51.
Brielle Slate in Lake Hopekong in New Jersey.
Happy birthday to Jeremy Ryan Slate of the Create Your Own Life podcast.
Love, Brielle in Adelaide.
Yes, on the list.
Got it.
$50.88 from Brielle.
Lee Olivares, Olivares, $50.58 for our mom, Diane.
Baronet Sir Economic Hitman came in from Houston, Texas, $50.01.
The following people will be $50, name and location if I have the location, and Adam will catch the mom's shout-outs.
That's what I do.
Starting with Robert Kerback in Essexville, Michigan.
Kevin Silverman in Severn, Maryland.
Robert Dacane in Fairfax, Virginia.
Sam Godwin in Parts Unknown.
For my mom, Sue, who gave me courage and was never afraid to hit me in the mouth.
Roy Denhaven in Pineknocker.
Very good.
Holland.
Gitmo Lowlands.
Black Knight.
Black Knight.
It says Black Knight.
Black Knight, Sir Lineman of the Net Raleigh Hawk.
Yes.
Happy Mother's Day to my wife, Robin, from Black Knight, Sir Lineman of the Net, Raleigh Hawk.
Indeed.
Pronounced Marcello?
Is that her name?
I guess.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
That's the next one.
No, Marcello.
Sorry.
Marcello.
McGinn Musumechi, I guess.
50.
Is there a...
No, but it is his first donation.
He says, credit Unfilter for bringing me here.
Are those guys still on?
I thought they were off the air.
No, no.
They haven't been on for almost a year now.
He probably listened to Unfilter, picked up our show, and then waited to donate.
He wanted the original thing.
He's hoping to God they'd come back, but no, they didn't.
Of course, they could have asked us for help, and then we could have shown him some ways of making money.
Not anymore.
Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas.
Kimberly Redmond in Toronto, Ontario.
And our last on our list is Robert Bruckner.
And he doesn't have any.
So that's it for our call-outs, too.
Okay.
Well...
I want to thank these folks.
I want to thank their moms.
Yes, and happy Mother's Day to Tiffany, my sister, and my sister Willow, both outstanding moms, of course.
Tina the Keeper.
And happy Mother's Day to Mimi.
Tina the Keeper is the best mom in the universe.
Jesse will never listen to the show.
No, it's not such a great mom because she doesn't listen, so...
Well, yeah, she'd be a better mama if she'd listen to the show.
And also, I guess, Dee up in Eric DeShill's wife, she does listen sometimes.
She listens from time to time, and she's busy.
She's got like 20, 20 boys they got there.
How many kids are running around there?
They got 13 kids.
I knew it was something like that.
And, um...
She may or may not hear the call out.
Well, thank you all very much.
And all the other moms that we missed.
We love all our moms.
And our moms in heaven, John.
Yeah.
My deaf mom in heaven.
What?
What?
What were they talking about?
What?
We do have a make good from Joe Salasauer.
Hey, Adam John, I heard of episode 1135 where I donated $121.
The donation was attributed to me.
The donation was supposed to be from my buddy and fellow producer, Clay Basaviche, I think, in order to get him to knighthood.
I just wanted to send you both an email so we could get the credit for the donation and finally reach knighthood.
So we need to have the details about his knighthood.
So have Clay send in a note to either myself or John and we'll get it off to the back office and Eric Shew will take care of it.
But that will be next time.
We still have a couple of things on the list before we get back to the show.
Meetups.
The list keeps growing.
I'll give it to you one more time.
You can find these at noagendameetups.com.
People are organizing these so you can meet up with other like-minded folk.
It's nice.
No matter where you are in the world.
There's no condemnation at a noagenda meetup.
It doesn't matter who you are or what you are.
Yeah, everybody has, they're all free thinkers.
Yes.
It's really nice.
It's very, very enjoyable.
May 18th, Cincinnati, Ohio.
The 25th, we've got two.
Eastern North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Oh, I forgot.
The 20th, this is not official yet, but I think Sir Jono is trying to set up a meetup in Tel Aviv.
In Israel on the 20th?
But Mimi thinks that she's posting is spam or something, so I've got to talk to Mimi and make sure she knows that, yeah, we have people in Israel.
So that would be a nice meetup to go to, May 20th.
So we're working on that.
But again, you can find this at noagentameetups.com when they're confirmed.
Charleston, South Carolina on the 30th of May.
Into June, Sarasota, Florida on the 2nd.
Seattle, Washington June 6th.
Toronto, Canada on June 7th.
Oklahoma City on the 8th of June.
And Copenhagen June 15th.
So that's what's on the books.
Yeah, I mean, this is fantastic.
And once...
We've gotten a lot of busy period behind us.
I look forward to hopefully coming to a couple of these.
And also, thank you to everybody who came in under $50, which we always keep as a cut-off mark for people who definitely want to be anonymous.
No mess-ups possible.
All of you, and also those of you on rotating, continuing subscription donations, thank you for keeping this program going.
It is, after all, your podcast.
And coincidentally, the best one in the universe.
Let's just do the obligatory karmas.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
You've got karma.
It is Mother's Day, the 12th of May, 2019.
Here's our birthday list.
Sir Kevin Dills, Viscount of Charlotte, turns 33 today.
Mr.
Mike, Sir Mike, says happy birthday with smoking hot wife Chris.
She celebrated on the 13th, so a little belated.
Laura Wilson.
Happy birthday to Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades for his birthday today.
Brielle in Adelaide.
Happy birthday to Jeremy Ryan Slate and Sir Crow the Fiber Knight.
We congratulate him belatedly.
He turned 30 on May 11th.
Happy birthday to all of you from all of us here at the best podcast in the universe.
Let's get straight to it with our daming.
I'd like to get Mrs.
Owens up here.
Thank you very much.
Mrs.
Owens!
Step on up and congratulations on insta-daming.
Haven't seen one of those in a long time, but we're very pleased to have you here.
This is the round table over there.
You see the knights and the dames.
We need to intersperse.
You can sit wherever you want.
So you can choose your spot.
But of course, this is thanks to your husband's insta-daming in the amount of $1,000.
And I'm hereby very proud to pronounce-icate the Dame Shea Shea Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
For you, by request, we have Coffee and Kringle.
Yes, we got Hookers and Blow.
We got Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
Might be into that.
Of course, we also have Mud and Mead.
Go over to noagendanation.com slash rings.
Eric Bischel will help you out and get that out to you as soon as possible.
And please tweet out a picture.
We love our dames, our knights, all royalty of the No Agenda Roundtable.
Thank you.
Dvorak.org slash NA. All help is welcome and necessary.
I have a note from...
Producer Grant, about the mention of the diesel subs.
Oh, we're talking about them, if it was an antiquated thing, or why?
We were laughing about it.
What was the point of saying it?
Well, this guy...
A couple of people actually said this.
Diesel subs are exceedingly quiet compared to nuclear boats.
Nuclear vessels need to maintain their coolant pumps even when lying silent.
This means they always create some level of noise that can be detected by passively listening.
Diesel subs run on batteries meaning that they can be completely silent while moving at low speed and cannot be detected unless they move quickly which causes cavitation.
This means the sub can move into a shooting position without the enemy detecting them.
While running like this their opponent must use active sonar to ping them.
Active sonar gives away the picket ship's exact position and is likely to invoke a torpedo launch at the surface ship doing the pinging.
This is why they are very dangerous.
The diesel sub's weakness is that they need to charge their batteries using their loud diesel engines, either while on the surface or just beneath it while using a snorkel.
They're very vulnerable while doing this.
There you go.
There's a little background there for people who don't know.
The more you know.
On the No Agenda Show.
Alyssa Milano, she's pretty powerful in Hollywood due to her, I think her husband, who is a big CAA agent, I think.
She is using an oldie, but goodie, the old Lysistrata trick, calling for a sex strike to protest anti-abortion laws.
In other words, let me see, I think she has a slogan or a logo.
It's a big pink sign with a big X. And where is it?
Oh, here it is.
Hashtag sex strike.
Our reproductive rights are being erased until women have legal control over our own bodies.
We just cannot risk pregnancy.
Join me by not having sex until we get bodily autonomy back.
That's a bumper sticker.
Huh.
This is horrible.
Well, the reaction right now is in the South.
Georgia, of course, passed the law.
Yes, the heartbeat bill.
The heart, which is dubious.
It's questionable.
It's completely dubious.
It's completely, I think it's, yes, it's very lame.
So the Hollywood, a lot of Hollywood movies are made in Georgia.
They have over one million square feet of soundstage in Georgia.
Yes.
Yes.
Perfect.
It's huge.
They have a lot of sound stages and the workers are cheaper.
So they like to make movies there.
now I think Spielberg and some other guys that are kind of signed up to do movies there said well they're going to take their profits from these movies and give them to some rights organizations.
They're not actually pulling out completely as some others claim.
But the super action is in Alabama where they're just going Mm-hmm.
Supposedly.
I don't know what's really going on there, but I have a clip.
Oh, you have a clip.
Good, good, good, good.
Okay.
Because I have some questions about this.
Let's listen to the clip first.
Alabama State Senate delayed a vote Thursday on a law that would ban virtually all abortions after a rancorous floor debate that saw lawmakers repeatedly shout in protest.
The bill would make providing an abortion a Class A felony punishable by up to 99 years in prison.
The Alabama Senate Minority Leader Bobby Singleton objected after Republican leaders sought to remove amendments from the abortion ban that would have allowed exemptions in cases of rape or incest.
He didn't even make a motion, Mr. President.
He did not make a motion.
He made a motion to table.
He did not make a motion.
There was no motion for another side.
He made a motion to table.
Singleton and other Democrats also protested when Republican leaders attempted to pass amendments on a voice vote.
They demanded a roll call so that lawmakers' votes would be put on the record.
This is Andrea Miller, president of the National Institute of Reproductive Health.
I mean, the reality is what happened in the Alabama Senate just shows how high the stakes are right now when a state is planning to ban all abortions outright and not only eliminate access to abortion care for the people in their state, but in an effort to eliminate it for everyone all across the country, because they hope they'll be the ones to bring the case to the Supreme Court that will overturn or severely eviscerate Roe v.
Wade.
Yeah, I think they're a long way from doing that with these, although it's law, this heartbeat bill, which I read through because I'm very interested in the topic, and it completely flies in the face of the privacy of Roe versus Wade.
So I don't think that in actuality it will do much, but yeah, what eventually happens is the access, you have to go out of state, and that's definitely a problem.
Look, And how about you, Joe?
I'm pro-killing people.
I think just to be televised.
That's the only beef I have about it.
I think, you know, you put people on death row, we kill them.
Hey, great.
You've got to televise it.
This should be the same.
But I'm confused about the numbers.
We have birth control.
And it's very effective.
It's 99.9% effective in multiple different kinds of ways.
And it's mainly 99% for women deal with the problem.
After all, it's their body.
I don't understand these high numbers.
About 5% of all women per year have an unwanted pregnancy.
40% of those are African American, who represent 6% of the population, so that's very high.
My question is, why...
And it's not really answered.
There's some NIH studies.
Why do people become pregnant when they don't want to?
And I don't even know how to formulate the question.
I think they call it unintended pregnancy.
As in unintended, didn't want to get pregnant, didn't want to have the baby.
So is access to contraception too controversial, not available, too expensive?
Why is this option being chosen with a reasonably high frequency?
I don't know.
Well, the only answer I get from the NIH is education.
The less educated you are and the poorer you are, the more chance that you're going to have an unintended pregnancy.
I still just don't...
I mean, so that means that education just needs to be better or are there other reasons?
I'm just looking for...
It's high.
I find this number high and we have so many different ways to stop unwanted pregnancy up front.
No one has this talk.
You know, it's all about the baby-killing part and the choice or life or whatever.
But what is the root cause?
You don't know either, I guess.
I don't have a clue.
Yeah, but isn't it...
I mean, except for the simple education where people don't care, they're careless.
There's a lot of carelessness.
Or there's just the heat of the moment, and who knows?
I mean, it's just, I don't know.
I'm out of the group that's involved with this.
I mean, the only thing that I can think about after, and really, it's in the show notes.
I put some study into it of unintended pregnancies, and it's surveyed a lot, but the answer is all they say is, well, here are the groups who have it more often.
But is it possible that we're so shattered?
Certainly the African-Americans who historically, really ever since the welfare state came into being, the real welfare, are fatherless families.
I have this fear that there are a lot of black women who feel like, okay, I'm going to have a child with this guy, my baby daddy.
You know, you hear them all talk, my baby daddy.
It's this whole cultural thing.
And it's not just black, but this is where we're hearing it.
The baby daddy, and maybe he'll stay with me.
And it's almost used like a bond between, a wishful bond, and then it doesn't happen.
The baby daddy leaves, like, oh, now I want to get rid of the kid.
It feels like that may be some of it, and it can be black or white, but just the numbers say African American women, 40% of all abortions.
And now we're just looking at the unintended ones, unintended pregnancies.
I don't know.
This is the stuff I'd like to understand.
I'm sure we have people and producers who can help us out.
It's not going to be discussed.
Well, no, but we can discuss it if our producers point us in the right direction.
We could read some producers' notes, but we have no real information.
Absolutely nothing.
But, yeah, other than everyone just going apeshit over this.
Is there nothing about it in the Mueller report?
No, I didn't see anything about it in the Mueller report.
I got another news story that we didn't get any, we have no information, but this hasn't been covered by anybody.
Who's our new defense secretary?
Do you know?
What's his name?
Isn't it the junior guy who came in?
The undersecretary guy?
I think it might be.
What's the clip?
Be nice to know, you know, this is probably an important job.
What's the clip?
Oh yeah, new defense secretary.
President Trump's nominated Patrick Shanahan to become the next Secretary of Defense.
Shanahan has been acting Pentagon Chief since Trump fired James Mattis at the start of the year.
Last month, an internal Pentagon ethics investigation cleared Shanahan following accusations he unfairly favored the weapons contractor Boeing, where he spent over three decades as an executive.
Yes.
I think we talked about him because he was the Boeing guy.
He's the Boeing guy.
We discussed this.
I have two clips, two media-related clips.
The first one is, it's only the intro to an interview with Matt Taibbi.
Matt Taibbi, I like a lot as a journalist.
He writes for Rolling Stone or wrote for Rolling Stone and then I think he moved to The Intercept and he's still there.
Then he left The Intercept.
He left The Intercept.
Yeah, that's right.
He went back anyway.
Yeah, because he found it to be I actually had a phone conversation with him, and I asked him about the intercept thing, and he just thought it was just disorganized.
Well, maybe it was at the time.
It seems to be a lot better now.
No, you don't know.
No, you don't.
Anyway, he has a book called...
Have you seen Taibbi recently?
He just shaved a head with...
Unfortunately, it's not shaved.
He's looking a little scraggly.
He's scraggly, yeah.
That's a good word.
There's a book out called Hate Inc.
I have not read it yet.
The only place you can get on that is news-related is on Russia Today.
Yeah, with Chris Hedges.
You can't get on anything else.
And I just wanted to play only the intro that Chris Hedges did before the interview, because it kind of neatly sums up what's in the book, and I think it's going to be an interesting read.
Welcome back to part two of our discussion of the decay that has beset American journalism with Matt Taibbi, the author of Hate...
Incorporated how and why the media makes us hate one another.
Last week we discussed the shattering of the old forms of media manipulation and the rise of a new media landscape built around demographic silos that sell internecine conflict.
The result, Taibbi points out, is a bifurcated public that is addicted to hating each other.
This new media landscape still manufactures consent, but by setting group against group, a consumer version of what George Orwell in 1984 called the two minutes of hate.
Our opinions and prejudices are skillfully catered to and reinforced, aided by a detailed digital analysis of our proclivities and habits and sold back to us.
It is, Taibbi writes, packaged anger just for you.
The result is political impotence of fractured and disempowered public crippled by hate and fear and mesmerized by the fake dissent of the culture wars and conspiracy theories rather than genuine dissent.
The moral swamp is fertile soil for demagogues such as Donald Trump, who is a creation of this media burlesque and feeds our emerging corporate totalitarianism.
And that's why you should not only listen to but also support the No Agenda show.
Because that's exactly what's out there.
You don't even have to listen to the interview.
That piece itself was very slanted.
Of course it was.
Chris Hages is a known socialist.
He should be at Starbucks tweeting from his Macbook.
So we have the trade war going on.
Another interesting little tidbit was on Democracy Now!, which I never heard anyplace else, which is the French are having, you know, besides having their yellow vest.
Which are still ongoing, eh?
Six months now, 26 weeks.
This is the 26th weekend.
It's still going.
Now they got a Yemen protest going on in France.
In northern France, human rights activists are attempting to block authorities from loading French weapons onto a Saudi vessel, saying the shipment would be used to kill civilians in Yemen in violation of an international arms treaty.
I thought we were the a-holes in that deal.
About 100 protesters turned out Thursday at the port of La Hav, ahead of the arrival of the Saudi ship, as lawyers for two separate human rights groups sued to prevent the shipment.
The protests came after a French news site reported French-made tanks and laser-guided missile systems were being used by the Saudi-led coalition against civilians in Yemen's war.
This is Jean-Paul Lecouc, a member of the French National Assembly who joined Thursday's protest.
Jean-Paul Lecouc.
The war in Yemen is a difficult war.
We are turned into supporters of Saudi Arabia.
And if we, the French citizens, do not act, if we don't try to stop arms sales, we will end up as accessories to this business.
We don't want this.
We don't want to be in this situation.
I wonder...
This is...
The French, you know, I give them a lot of props.
So how was that intertwined?
Well, actually, let me play my yellow vest clip, because this is what I heard was going on, but maybe the two were intertwined, or half of the people went over to the Yemen protest.
Heavy rain kept the number of yellow vest demonstrators down in Paris as the movement marked the 26th consecutive weekend of protests.
Organizers were hoping to regain the momentum following a record-low turnout last weekend.
The government says fewer than 19,000 people turned out nationwide, although organizers said this was because of major May Day demonstrations earlier in the week, a bid to widen this weekend's protests.
Big demonstrations were planned in the regional cities of Lyon, Nantes and Toulouse.
More than 5,000 people were expected at the Lyon rally, called to protest against plans to privatize public services.
Saturday's rallies come two weeks before European Parliament elections, when more protests are planned.
The movement began last November, as a protest over planned rises in fuel tax.
It grew into a wider campaign of grievances against government policies.
Yeah, mind you, Euronews is not to be trusted.
Notice they don't mention what the tax was about.
Oh, just a fuel tax.
No, it was the climate change fuel tax.
Yes.
And so that no longer is mentioned.
Nobody wants to talk about it.
No.
I have a climate change thing, but I'm going to move that over to Thursday.
Yeah, there's an interesting theory that I was listening to and I think it might fit a little bit.
It'll help us understand more what's going on and what can be done and what can't be done.
Greta Thunberg now tweeting that we really have to start, we only really have five years.
Oh, we're going to be dead in five years because of climate change?
No, she says if we don't have substantial things underway in five years, then forget your 10-year mark.
It's not going to happen.
She's got a PhD in this.
What is the deal?
She's got braids, man.
Drug price is rigged.
I have this clip.
Okay.
Lawyers are crooked.
The attorneys general of 43 states filed a lawsuit today accusing 19 generic drug companies and more than a dozen executives of price fixing.
Generic drugs should cost much less than the brand name drugs they copy, but that is not always the case.
Here's Bill Whitaker of 60 Minutes.
It's an industry-wide conspiracy, and I think it answers one of the biggest questions all of us are asking, which is, why are prescription drugs so expensive?
And I think we know why now, because the prices of generic drugs are fixed and there's a widespread conspiracy to rig the market.
Connecticut Attorney General William Tong says his office found evidence of price fixing by dozens of generic drug industry sales directors, marketers, CEOs, dating back to 2006.
How many drugs are we talking about?
Hundreds.
Hundreds of drugs.
What kinds of drugs?
Every kind of drug that touches our everyday lives.
I'll give you an example.
Bill, this is my bottle of doxycycline.
It is a common antibiotic that I take every day for a skin condition.
And there's a conspiracy around doxycycline.
And so, sitting here today as the Attorney General of the State of Connecticut, I'm one of the victims.
Doxycycline makes kids nuts, doesn't it?
No.
No, it's just tetracycline.
Oh, oh.
Newer version.
It's just antibiotics.
Okay.
All right.
My kid's nuts.
Give us something happy to leave the show on.
Happy?
I want...
Chelsea Manning's out.
I think the Manning update, nobody talks about her being out of jail.
Wait a minute.
I saw her on...
I think she was on CNN this morning.
Was she?
Yeah.
It was an exclusive interview.
It wasn't that exclusive, but okay.
In Northern Virginia, famed U.S. Army whistleblower Chelsea Manning was released from a federal prison Thursday after spending 62 days behind bars for refusing to testify to a grand jury.
Manning had been subpoenaed to answer questions about her leak of hundreds of thousands of secret State Department and Pentagon documents to WikiLeaks, including evidence of U.S. war crimes.
The grand jury ultimately disbanded.
Manning's freedom could be short-lived.
Her lawyer said in a statement she will again refuse to testify in response to a separate subpoena.
Yeah, I'll get the CNN interview for Thursday if there's anything in there.
Maybe she'll show up on a couple other shows.
Yeah.
All right, everybody.
We tried to break it down for you.
The deconstruction should be complete, at least for what we could bring you today.
And we return on Thursday where it's just plain old episode 1138.
I don't think we have a Mother's Day or any other specialties.
Although it will be the last one before I get hitched.
So we will need to talk about what we're going to do for that show day.
But that will happen on Thursday.
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And such.
I'm a spy.
Spy slut.
Shake it, not stirred.
Have you ever heard this one?
It was a spy slut that got him involved with being an economic hitman.
Spy Slut.
Well, her name is Azra Turk, which of course is her nom de guerre.
She was Matt Harry, the dancer, the spy, one of the great names of World War I espionage.
Spy Slut.
Now, we've heard of honeypots, but Spy Slut, this is a good one, and that's in the business.
I like this better.
Spy Slut.
Vodka martini, shaken, not stirred.
Hey, you got the spice, lots of turkey on the gate.
I'm a spy.
I think this is going to have a happy ending.
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