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1115: Truancy Crimes

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	I can't hurry up, he's got to go fast.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, February 24th, 2019.
	This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media Assassination, episode 1115.
	This is No Agenda.
	Braving the chills of the tundra and broadcasting live from the capital of the fields of opportunity here in downtown Des Moines, Iowa, in an Airbnb.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I can barely hear you, by the way, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Pay no attention to it, if you can hear me or not.
	It's only when something loud is going on.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	In the morning.
	That was corrected.
	In the morning, sir.
	In the morning to you.
	In the morning to you.
	In the morning to all ships of sea and boots on the ground, feet in the air and the suburbs of the water.
	There's a nice out there.
	Well, you are very chipper today.
	Yeah, I got up.
	I got up.
	You know when you get up at the exact right time?
	Yeah.
	Without the alarm going off.
	Okay, yes.
	You get up 10 minutes too early, you're kind of groggy.
	You get up 10 minutes too late, you're kind of groggy.
	You can't hit it.
	You hit it very rarely once in a while.
	You get up at exactly the right time.
	I don't have these problems.
	Oh, yeah.
	No.
	You do.
	No, I don't.
	I don't.
	I really don't.
	Yeah, so I'm here in Des Moines, Iowa, John.
	As they like to call it, Des Moines.
	Yes, Des Moines.
	The locals call it Des Moines.
	They do not.
	They absolutely do not call it Des Moines.
	In fact, quite the opposite.
	They insist you never pronounce the yes.
	Yeah, I don't know who told you this, but it's not true.
	It was a local.
	Well, anyway, we're here in, literally in downtown Des Moines, which is completely dead in the weekend.
	There's nothing going on here.
	And besides the fact that it is 11 degrees outside.
	And you think maybe that's part of the reason?
	No, I think that's just, this all, you know, Des Moines is very interesting.
	It's the insurance capital of the country.
	So it's all basically financial companies that are downtown.
	And have you ever been to Des Moines?
	Yeah, of course I have.
	I've been to Des Moines, I went to the outskirts, I went to the bridges of Madison County.
	I love the skywalk system they have here.
	Okay.
	So you have or you have not been?
	If you've been, then you know about the skywalk system.
	I was there in the summertime.
	I wasn't paying much attention to the skywalk.
	Okay, so downtown, this entire downtown area, all the buildings are connected by these enclosed bridges that go from building to building.
	So you can walk throughout the downtown area without actually going outside.
	Yeah, without having to get the snow.
	Yeah, I guess Minneapolis has that as well.
	I think they might have.
	Des Moines might have stolen it from Minneapolis.
	Well, it's not as though these cities don't have these alternate routes.
	I mean, in Toronto and even Edmonton and also Montreal, they have all this underground network where you can walk all downtown without ever coming above ground.
	Right, right.
	Well, it's no luxury here, I'll tell you.
	My goodness.
	It is so cold.
	Biting cold.
	It's just crazy.
	But...
	As you can tell, I'm in a very large open space.
	It's kind of echoey here in the Airbnb that we got in downtown, which has a very loud heating system.
	So loud, in fact, that it kind of rivaled the air conditioner in the airstream of consciousness, so I have to turn it off during the show.
	I only have a sweater on now, but I'm pretty sure within about 30 to 45 minutes, the temperature's going to drop pretty significantly here.
	My remembrance of Des Moines is that it is...
	That area you're talking about is all buildings, business offices, and the like.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's actually somebody living there somehow?
	Yeah, there's what used to be a hotel called the Kirkwood Hotel.
	They turned it into condos, and of course, no one actually lives here in the condos, so it's just Airbnbs.
	And it's really affordable.
	And by the way, the hotels were completely booked.
	Gee, it's affordable.
	It's 11 degrees.
	I wonder why.
	Are they booked?
	All the hotels were booked, the hotels downtown.
	Do they have a big convention going on?
	I don't know what's going on.
	I don't know what it is.
	I know Tulsi Gabbard was in town for three days, which I didn't know.
	And of course, we had the wedding yesterday, so I couldn't go check it out.
	But I doubt that all the hotels were full just for her.
	It seems unlikely.
	So there's probably something going on.
	Oh, that's right.
	Iowa is the first.
	Yeah, Des Moines.
	Everyone goes to Des Moines and what's the other...
	Oh, come on.
	Fairview.
	No.
	Oh, in New Hampshire.
	New Hampshire?
	No, not New Hampshire.
	Come on.
	Everyone has to start their political campaign.
	You always have to go to Des Moines.
	Is it Des Moines and New Hampshire?
	Yeah, those are the two that first start things off, usually.
	So, I don't know why.
	I'm not quite sure why Des Moines works.
	Because those are the ones that...
	That's the first round of elimination, especially in New Hampshire.
	If you can't come in first, second, or third, you're going to have nothing but trouble.
	Okay.
	Well, Des Moines, you can take a pass on that.
	You can take a pass on Iowa.
	It's as caucuses.
	It's not the same.
	Well, Tulsi's here.
	When the people come out to vote in New Hampshire, then they've made a decision.
	Okay.
	So we had our big Iowa meetup on Friday.
	Yes, I understand it was a huge success.
	It was incredibly successful.
	I think it's the largest one we've had to date.
	We didn't get a complete head count because the venue was kind of large and there were other people.
	But I would say we were at least 70, maybe a few more over the course of four hours.
	Was it three?
	Yeah, more than three hours, I think.
	This was really, really a good one.
	People came from all over the place, from Minnesota, from Kansas, Tennessee.
	Well, Sir Patrick Coble, of course, came in from Tennessee.
	We had people from Indiana, from Chicago.
	It was mind-boggling, people driving four or five hours to come to the meetup and going back the same night.
	Yeah.
	They're hardy there in the Midwest.
	Yeah.
	They're dedicated.
	They really are.
	It was a great venue, too.
	The Hall, which is an interesting place.
	It's where they used to repair trains, or I guess they had train cars, and they could roll them into this building and work on them and then turn them onto a different track.
	And half of the building is a non-profit teaching people how to do different kinds of vocational jobs.
	And they fund that with this, basically, the Hall, a big beer hall.
	And we kind of took over a whole part and people were really interested in what we were doing, thinking we were a cult.
	Especially when one of our producers, he was ready for a knighting.
	And he brought his accounting.
	This was Paul Richardson.
	And he said, hey, you know, so I have the final check here for my knighthood.
	Can we do it here live?
	I said, of course we can.
	I said, oh, good, because I got a sword in my car.
	I said, bring it in.
	So we're brandishing swords in this hall.
	I saw the tweet about you doing this, and I said, Adam does drag a sword around with him.
	This was not my sword.
	It was a family sword.
	Been in his family for, I don't know, decades or maybe longer.
	It was very unique, to say the least.
	So we'll be, I guess we'll do a little segment and mention a couple people in a little bit as we first get started.
	I see we had an interesting crossover, in particular on the Di-Fi and the child abuse clips.
	This was quite amazing what happened with the Sunrise Movement.
	Yeah, I found it to be, well, it's child abuse.
	Yeah, well, you want to set it up?
	Because once I saw you had the clips, I didn't have much to add, but I do think it's important to let everyone hear what's going on with this.
	Well, I don't have the complete set, but I have a lot.
	I have what I thought was the important clips.
	So what happened was some teacher, some 24-year-old, she said she was 24, which they're bitching and moaning about the kids not voting for Feinstein.
	Some teacher had gotten her class to do a big project of writing this huge letter, a giant, you know, like one of those giant checks when there's a giant letter, encouraging Feinstein to vote yes on the Green New Deal.
	Now, these were kids who were, what, like 12, 15?
	Yeah, they're 12-year-olds, and there's a couple older kids, but this teacher was the instigator, it's pretty obvious.
	And she had convinced these kids, you could tell by the way the kids were talking, that they're all going to die in 12 years.
	Oh, gosh.
	And something needs to be done now.
	And of course, I don't know if she taught the kids that this bill, quote unquote, is actually just a resolution that really has no, doesn't do anything, except, you know, kind of has a hopeful resolution.
	Kind of a thing behind it.
	It's hopeful of the following.
	It's hopeful that we stop all air traffic, only take trains.
	And I should mention to people, just because we talked about this before, that the passenger train business peaked.
	It didn't peak in 1955.
	It didn't peak in 1945.
	It peaked in 1929.
	And somehow they want to revitalize it like the California high-speed rail, which had to be canceled because it was cost overruns.
	It was ridiculous.
	In other words, the progressives are not progressive.
	Progressives would be pushing for...
	It seems to me if you're progressive looking toward the future, you'd go for supersonic transport.
	Hypersonic.
	Hypersonic or something like that.
	Anything but trains.
	Yeah.
	But that's okay.
	You know, the whole thing has got these kids all jacked up.
	So let's play a few of the clips.
	This clip has got the kids preparing to go in, and it cuts over to them, I think, making their first statement.
	This is number one.
	Go in and share this letter, and we're going to do it all together.
	Share it in front of Feinstein.
	We're asking her to vote yes on the green news.
	We are trying to ask you to vote yes on the Green New Deal.
	Okay, so there's the kids.
	Did you see the full 14 minutes of the whole video?
	Yeah, I did.
	I did.
	Okay, because I actually pulled a couple of very short clips.
	Good, you'll have some alternative clips.
	But first of all, there's such lack of respect by the kids.
	By the way, I love the way the Twitter verse took it.
	Oh, Feinstein's a douchebag!
	You know, because she was a douchebag, but it wasn't.
	She was forced into being one.
	But the kids, it's not we're going to take it in front of Senator Dianne Feinstein or Miss Feinstein, Mrs.
	Feinstein, whatever you want to call her.
	No, Feinstein.
	Well, they get that from the parents, from the adults in the room.
	That's where they get that non-etiquette from, Feinstein.
	Yeah, Feinstein.
	Let's give it in front of Feinstein.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I found it to be anti-Semitic.
	But okay.
	Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Stop.
	What did you find to be anti-Semitic?
	It's a Jewish name and you just use the Jewish-ish of the name.
	I got a segment for you later on.
	It seemed to be insulting.
	It was rude.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	It was rude.
	All right.
	So let's go to two.
	Some scientists have said that we have 12 years to turn this around.
	Well, it's not going to get turned around in 10 years.
	What we can do...
	Senator, if this doesn't get turned around in 10 years, you're looking at the faces of the people who are going to be living with these consequences.
	That was the teacher.
	And she was the most abhorrent of the group.
	Oh, you're looking at the faces of the people who are going to be living with the consequences.
	She's egged these kids on, told them that they're all going to die in 12 years.
	Well, to be fair, John, it's not just the teacher.
	I mean, we've talked about this.
	This is being rammed into kids' heads everywhere, everywhere on television.
	It's in cartoons.
	It's all over the place.
	It's not just the teacher.
	Yes, it is just the teacher, in my opinion.
	Here's why.
	Shouldn't the teacher be backing these kids off from this nihilistic look at life and saying, hey, no, you're just fine.
	You're not going to die.
	What if the teacher also believes it?
	Goads them into going in to see Feinstein.
	What if, well, okay, let's just set something up.
	This was not just one teacher.
	This was the Sunrise Movement.
	Of which one of them was a teacher.
	There were parents there who were with the Sunrise Movement.
	There were people there who were not teaching these kids but were in the group.
	And by the way, they didn't have an appointment.
	They just walked in.
	Talk about rude.
	So it's the Sunrise Movement who believes this, believes the government assessment, which was all over the news, told everybody, if we don't turn this around in 12 years, then it's going to be irreversible, and that's what AOC is all about and her Green New Deal.
	Didn't the first time we heard this same thing was about 1989, where we have clips, we have Quotes that you have 10 years to live.
	So by the year 2000, we're already...
	I'm not arguing that.
	But at this very moment, it has been so propagandized that...
	And this is...
	Feinstein, not being anti-Semitic, di-fi, said some very good things to these kids, but she's too chicken shit to actually say, you're not going to die in 12 years.
	That's the part that I found reprehensible from her.
	Well, I found a number of reprehensible things.
	Well, of course, she's a Democrat, so she has to kind of deal with this.
	The teacher should be a teacher and not just a cheerleader for dying in 12 years.
	I found her to be extremely offensive.
	Well, hold on one second.
	Let me play you 27 seconds of...
	Of these kids and the teacher talking about skipping school.
	And if you listen carefully, they cut school for this day.
	All the teachers were on board.
	You can hear the kids say, yeah, it's part of the global strike, which means they know about the kids in Brussels who are all bundled up and all protesting global warming.
	It's spreading all over Europe.
	It's not really discussed that much.
	But this was a truancy operation.
	Do you guys all skip school?
	Yeah.
	Our teachers.
	Our teachers are on the street.
	We're doing global strike for climate.
	What's Oakland?
	All schools do you guys get?
	A little bit of a day.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'm from Oakland.
	Support Oakland.
	Yeah, I think that's awesome.
	I have a friend who works for the L.A. Unified School District, and they did a similar thing.
	But she was very excited and supposedly all the parents were super supportive.
	The kids were very happy to come back to school, though.
	So it's okay.
	Kids can skip school if it's for this cause.
	Not for any other.
	You're right.
	This is a truancy operation.
	These people should be jailed.
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	Whatever happened to the old truancy officer?
	Jail him!
	All right, come along.
	Get back in the paddy wagon, kids.
	Get in there.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's the olden days.
	They won't do that anymore.
	No, no, you can just take off when you feel like it so you can bitch about global warming.
	Alright, here's my last clip.
	I was elected by almost a million vote plurality, and I know what I'm doing.
	So, you know, maybe people should listen a little bit.
	I hear what you're saying, but we're the people who voted you.
	You're supposed to listen to us.
	I love the lack of English grammar.
	We're the people that voted you.
	I know, I like that too.
	That was fantastic.
	You're supposed to listen to us.
	That's your job.
	How old are you?
	I'm 16.
	I can't vote.
	Well, you didn't vote for me.
	- I'm 24 hours.
	- It doesn't matter, we're the ones who are gonna be impacted. - It doesn't matter, we're gonna be the ones who are impacted. - I understand that.
	I have seven grandchildren.
	I understand it very well.
	Senator, the cost of not taking this action is far higher than the cost of what the Green New Deal...
	This is the Sunrise Movement, Representative.
	...will be.
	And there is enormous popularity for this bill around the whole country.
	And we're asking you to be brave and do this for us and for your grandchildren.
	All right, good.
	I have some complimentary clips.
	I got to say something.
	Of course, of course, of course.
	First of all, this woman says it's going to cost less.
	The Green New Deal is going to cost it.
	Yes, the Green New Deal is going to cost nothing because it's just a resolution.
	That is never brought up.
	These kids don't even know.
	They think that Feinstein votes for this.
	The next thing you know, global warming is over.
	Well, not entirely true.
	Well, the kids may not know it, but the Sunrise Movement person, whether she's a teacher or a parent, she knew exactly what was going on here.
	And I think, I have a feeling there were different video recordings because you would, you probably would have clipped this if you had heard this.
	This is, here's the lady talking just before they're getting ready to get kicked out, which I also have.
	Listen to what she says here.
	Senator, we know that no plan is going to pass right now while the Republicans control the Senate.
	This is a long game.
	We need to be doing this to unite the Democratic Party.
	I don't know if you've noticed, but voters haven't been particularly energized the last couple of years.
	We need something to fight for.
	Your constituents are asking you for this, and I really believe, and tens of thousands, millions of people around the country are asking for this online.
	They're calling you.
	Your phone lines are blocked up.
	Look, I understand all of this, and I'm trying to do the best I can, which was to write a responsible resolution.
	Any plan that doesn't take bold, transformative action is not going to be what we need.
	Well, you know better than I do, so I think one day you should run for the Senate.
	No, actually, I did hear that.
	I didn't clip it, though.
	I like that one.
	It is pretty funny.
	You should run, bitch.
	But that's just her being, you know, a jerk.
	No, she was right.
	I mean, she even said to these kids.
	She was right, but why didn't the following take place?
	You know, she has people.
	She has people.
	Who could strategize this?
	The kids come in with the letter, the big giant letter, and finally says, oh, this is so wonderful, this giant letter.
	I'm going to take it.
	We're going to go over this letter.
	We're going to frame it and put it in the office.
	This is great.
	I have a meeting, and hopefully you guys can be in touch with me.
	That's not how it went.
	That is how they got rid of it.
	I got the clip of how they kicked the kids out.
	They want to present this letter.
	Now, she's been talking with them for 10 minutes.
	And again, the only thing she had to say was, it's just not true.
	You're not going to die in 12 years.
	And she knows it, and I can prove it, which I'll do in a moment.
	But here they are getting ready to kick the kids out.
	Yeah, I can read it.
	I do read.
	What is this not voting present thing?
	What is that?
	Is it some kind of abstention?
	No, you can vote present.
	That's what Obama did all of his years in the Senate.
	So you don't actually vote, you just say, I'm here?
	Yeah.
	And you're not abstaining.
	They can't accuse you of abstaining.
	But what the Sun Sunrise Movement person is saying is, please don't just say you're present.
	And she says, I can say it.
	She's the Obama president.
	Yeah, I can read it.
	I do read.
	I may.
	I don't know.
	I may vote present.
	It is much, much, much different than saying it present.
	Oh, I understand all that.
	And that is what they're asking.
	So if they can just have a voice to read that out to you.
	Here it comes.
	Can we read?
	No.
	And then sit with that opportunity, knowing that they know it's not going to be.
	Look, I have a group of people that's come from a long place away to come in.
	We have decades of life they hope to still have, and you're good to worship.
	That doesn't work with me.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Thank you, everybody.
	All right.
	You want to present that?
	Yeah.
	Goodbye.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	You're Senator Feinstein.
	We can read it.
	We can read it.
	Believe it or not.
	Please do not.
	We're going to read it.
	Senator Feinstein, I appreciate you meeting as the mother of this young child.
	I can say that I really hope that you follow the lead of these young people, and I think it's the best chance at really giving them a life.
	Thank you.
	Let's just have nine-year-olds run the country.
	We need your leadership, Dianne Feinstein.
	Follow the lead of these young people.
	The nine-year-olds run the country.
	All right.
	So everyone's had a lot of fun, some good fun with this video.
	But did you have a chance to look at her resolution, the one she handed to these kids?
	No.
	Oh.
	Well, this is the No Agenda way.
	I'd like to review a little bit of Dianne Feinstein's draft climate change resolution.
	It differs somewhat from the Green New Deal.
	Well, it probably leaves out the part about cow farts.
	Yeah, it doesn't have that, but there's some more important differences.
	A resolution, this is a resolution.
	It just says, here's the stuff we agree on, and here's the stuff we say we're going to do.
	It doesn't do anything else.
	It's just kind of an agreement, and it's used as a...
	Dare I say a framework to start creating legislation from.
	So Congress finds...
	Yes, you may dare say.
	I dare say.
	I may dare say.
	Congress finds that the climate is changing as a result of human activities, primarily the combustion of fossil fuels.
	The changes in climate projected in the coming decades threaten rapid, widespread, concurrent, and long-lasting increases in heat waves, wildfire, disease, drought, crop failure, sea level rise from loss of glaciers, and collapse of ice sheets, ocean acidification, mass extinction, and collapse of food chains, mass population migrations, and human conflict.
	That sounds kind of groovy.
	Yeah.
	Changes in the climate are already evident that since the beginning of the 20th century, the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide has increased by more than one third.
	Global average temperatures have increased by more than a full degree Fahrenheit.
	And then she goes into some interesting examples.
	California from and since you live out there, California from 2011 to 2017 was likely made 15 to 20 percent more intense by global warming.
	The drought, I'm sorry, the drought in California was likely made 15 to 20 percent more intense by global warming.
	Likely?
	Oh yeah, there's a lot of likely.
	The next line.
	The rainfall in Texas during Hurricane Harvey in 2017 was likely increased 15 to 19 percent due to climate change.
	And the area burned by wildfire in the western United States between 84 and 2015 was I mean, this is really a very wishy-washy, fuzzy little thing we're supposed to agree upon.
	But here's what she says we should do.
	Number one.
	Instituting a price on carbon.
	Yeah, DiFi, we know what you're going for.
	Yes.
	Let's see where she differs from the Green New Deal.
	Completing the transition to zero emissions electricity sources to electric drive surface transportation systems.
	So she's just talking about, not about airplanes.
	And also, we need to have efficient systems for transmission, distribution, and storage of electricity.
	Uh-huh.
	Yes, of course we do.
	And by the way, she wants all of this to take place by 2050.
	And this is why...
	You're probably dead by then.
	This is why she's chicken shit.
	The United States shall reduce net greenhouse gas emissions to zero as soon as possible and by no later than 2050.
	Now, this is great.
	This is why it was originally 2030.
	We predicted this five years ago because 2030, a lot of the old politicians then really weren't going to maybe be in office in 2030.
	And Dianne Feinstein, she won't be alive in 2050.
	So she can make any resolution she wants.
	No one's going to call her on it.
	That's why this 2050 number is here.
	We will need to resume the development of energy-efficient standards for ceiling fans.
	Walk-in coolers, freezers, uninterruptible power supplies, portable air conditioners, boilers, central air conditioners, light bulbs, and other appliances.
	Also, she would like to maintain the coordinated national program of fuel economy and vehicle emission standards, which should exceed 50 miles per gallon.
	Every car needs to do that by 2025.
	We must remain a party to the Paris Climate Agreement.
	Reinstate the interagency working group on the social cost of carbon.
	And then rebuild our infrastructure to be more resilient to extreme weather.
	Fortify coastal communities against sea level rise.
	Identify alternative supplies of drinking water.
	Develop crops and agricultural practices that will maintain a reliable supply of food.
	Hello, Monsanto.
	Prepare the public health system for greater risks of vector-borne diseases, asthma, heat stroke, and other health hazards.
	Hey, how about hypothermia?
	Seeing as climate change is causing this cold snap, but it's not in there.
	And then the part that AOC would like to hear.
	The United States shall ensure a just and equitable transition for all communities, including guaranteeing pensions for workers in the coal, oil, and gas industry, and providing meaningful training for new economic opportunities within their own communities.
	And you know what that means.
	Learn to code!
	Yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Historically been marginalized or oppressed, including indigenous people, communities of color, migrant communities, de-industrialized communities, depopulated rural communities, the poor low-income workers, women, the elderly, the unhoused, people with disabilities and youth.
	Who is not in that group, that list?
	It's everybody but old white men.
	Everybody's in there but us.
	And then finally, we commit to minimizing the extent and speed of climate change, which will initially...
	This is the last sentence of the whole document.
	Minimizing the extent and speed of climate change, which will initially harm the most vulnerable individuals and communities disproportionately and will eventually imperil all society.
	What does that even mean?
	Help me understand this sentence.
	So again, take a look out the window.
	How were those mudflats?
	Actually, the mudflats right now are bigger than I've ever seen.
	So there must be some, I guess, Australia's sponge is sucking up the motion.
	So to me, it sounds like she's saying we're screwed no matter what.
	Well, why don't you read it again?
	Okay, so I'll read the heading.
	adjust an equitable transition for all communities, including by minimizing the extent and speed of climate change, which will initially harm the most vulnerable individuals and communities disproportionately and will eventually imperil all society.
	So it sounds like...
	She's going to eventually imperil...
	Eventually, she uses that word.
	That's the kicker.
	Eventually imperil all society.
	You're right.
	Whether you do something or not.
	Well, it's a draft.
	Maybe she still needs to work on it.
	She needs to throw it away.
	Anyway, I thought the whole thing was...
	It was sad.
	I'm sad about these children.
	I really am.
	It's...
	You know, kids have projects.
	They get it.
	You know, when you're older, you'd look back on them, you'd say, oh, that was dumb.
	But do you think that these kids who are hearing this stuff, that they really, that they don't, they're like, ah, it's not really, we're not really going to die, it's not really going to be horrible, or do they really believe it?
	I think a bunch of them do believe it, but I think most of them are just kids.
	Well...
	I mean, when I was a kid, you have to remember, I was the duck and cover generation.
	Mm-hmm.
	And so, you know...
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Hold on.
	Specifically, duck and cover.
	Tell me how...
	Did that have any effect on you?
	Were you worried at the time?
	I don't remember being worried to this extent these kids are about global warming.
	I mean, yeah, the Russians are going to bomb us.
	Okay, let's go over that period.
	There's a number of factors going on.
	It wasn't until the fission fusion fission bomb came out that most of this ended.
	People just threw their arms in the air and said, screw it.
	That's a thermonuclear bomb, which means it was a...
	A fission bomb that set off, an H-bomb, which set off a bunch of cheap uranium, which poisoned the Earth for the next, you know, 100 years.
	Before that bomb was invented, which was, the discussion of this is in a book by Linus Pauling called No More War, which is quite, really a good read if you can find the copy.
	Anyway, before that, they were having us, well, you can duck, you know, don't look at the fireball, and, you know, duck, get under the desk.
	Don't look at the fireball.
	Yeah, don't look at the fireball because your eyes don't melt.
	What if I have that jingle to duck and cover?
	I bet I do somewhere.
	And so then during that same era, people were selling fallout shelters and there was always somebody in the neighborhood, a couple of people in the neighborhood who bought these things.
	They'd bring out a big construction rig and dig a huge hole in their backyard and drop in a big tank which had an entrance to it.
	And these things are still out there in the Midwest and throughout the West Coast and the suburbs, mostly suburbs.
	And they use this, you know, root storage, you know, you put your canned goods down, pantries, virtual pantries.
	Let me see.
	I think I might have one of the original duck and cover jingles that you kids were indoctrinated with.
	That schools have developed protocols and they actually train and they drill on what to do and talk to people.
	No, that's not it.
	I thought we had that somewhere.
	I think we do.
	Anyway, I'll just continue.
	Okay.
	So we had, so it was like, you know, it seemed as though they were going to blow, the world was going to blow up.
	And looking back on it, I had other concerns.
	Like getting laid?
	Well, mostly like, you know, should I kiss this girl?
	What would she do?
	I mean, it was the concern about getting killed by a nuke, which was going to wipe everybody out, really wasn't something that was at the top of my mind.
	Top of the list of things to think about.
	And then it's just, no.
	It just doesn't, yeah, you duck and cover and you look at somebody's bomb shelter and then you...
	Well, it didn't affect you adversely.
	It did not affect you adversely is what you're saying.
	I don't believe it did.
	Well, I think I was, it was looking back on it and I can see that it was semi-humorous.
	I can't see these kids being any different than any kids.
	Well, I think if you take this threat, which you really can't see, I think that's comparable to the nuclear bomb.
	Yeah, we really don't know.
	Will it really happen?
	There is other child abuse going on as we speak.
	This took place this past week in Florida.
	Stephanie Kearns, her daughter Sydney, and one of Sydney's classmates are all able to hug each other after what they describe as a stressful day at Palatka High School.
	Sydney Kearns says the stress began when an emphatic voice over the intercom alerted students and staff that an intruder was on campus.
	They said it was a man in a black hoodie with jeans.
	The school went into lockdown.
	Sydney says she and her classmates rushed into a back room in a separate building on campus.
	She says the lights to the room were turned off.
	Students and teachers had no idea this was an active shooter drill.
	How real was it?
	It was very real.
	Like, people were banging on the doors.
	Kids were crying, saying, let me in.
	And they would not let them in.
	They had to go in the bathrooms and hide.
	Sydney says she and other students were texting their parents.
	Well, I was freaking out.
	I was at work, and I was like, oh my gosh.
	I spoke with one student off camera who said the drill was so realistic that she had an anxiety attack.
	She said she looked over and noticed some of her teachers also having panic attacks.
	And this is why, on one hand, Stephanie Kearns is worried about unannounced active shooter drills.
	I mean, I can appreciate them doing drills, but, you know, I know there is some kids that they suffer from anxiety attacks or panic attacks or just different issues.
	On the other hand, she agrees with unannounced drills to better prepare students for a real emergency.
	If they tell everyone it's a drill, are they really going to take it seriously?
	School officials issued a Facebook statement saying they wanted to see authentic reactions from students and employees to see possible flaws and make necessary changes.
	The drill was handled very well.
	I find this amazing.
	I mean, people can get hurt with these unannounced drills.
	I'm waiting for when somebody dies.
	from a heart attack or something during one of these drills, because people die of heart attacks.
	Sure, sure.
	Somebody drops dead from one of these drills unexpectedly and sues the school district for everything they're worth with millions of dollars, and then their insurance rate goes skyrocketing after that because the insurance company will pay the first one, but they're not going to put up with this going on for long.
	And so you end up with costing the public a lot of money because they won't eat it.
	It's just the public that has to eat it with these higher taxes.
	This is unacceptable.
	And I'll say that what I think is, you know, the fallout from this is it's one thing to be, you know, this magical climate change which is going to kill you because it's going to be so warm and we're sitting here with a sweater on.
	But kids who are in school and colleges, John, they really are traumatized by this because they're told it can happen at any moment.
	It can happen to their school at any moment, and then you get a drill that's unannounced?
	I think that's pretty irresponsible.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Anyway, kids are abused all the time, and they love it when the truth comes out.
	CNBC. Yeah, CNBC. How to Train Your Dragon, The Hidden World opens in theaters nationwide this weekend from Universal Pictures and DreamWorks, which along with CNBC is a subsidiary of Comcast.
	So at a time when kids are watching less traditional TV and TV commercials, how is the studio promoting this film and others?
	Well, they've asked us to ask Julia Boorstin.
	She's on the Oscar red carpet with a look.
	Julia.
	Pay attention now.
	Well, Kelly, DreamWorks Animation is not relying on commercials, but rather going to where kids and teenagers spend their time to drive word of mouth and also social chatter.
	Where kids spend their minds.
	Yeah, yeah, the truth always wants to come out.
	They spend their minds.
	They spend their minds on the social medias.
	Yes, that's exactly right.
	That's where they spend their minds, and you're there corrupting them.
	Alright, just to get off the Green New Deal, I don't know if you saw this one last bit from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who had to fight back against this DiFi deal because this is unacceptable.
	And here's how she said that in, I think this is actually a rare appearance in New York.
	And I read it and I was like, you know what?
	I don't care anymore.
	I don't care anymore.
	Because, again, I'm at least trying and they're not.
	So, the power is in the person who's trying, regardless of the success.
	If you're trying, you've got all the power.
	You're driving the agenda.
	You're doing all this stuff.
	Like, I just introduced Green New Deal two weeks ago, and it's creating all of this conversation.
	Why?
	Because no one else has even tried.
	Because no one else has even tried.
	So, people are like, oh, it's unrealistic.
	Oh, it's vague.
	Oh, it doesn't address this little minute thing.
	And I'm like, you try.
	You do it.
	You do it.
	Because you're not.
	So until you do it, I'm the boss.
	How about that?
	You heard it here.
	I like how she kind of turns into Jenny from the block.
	You do it.
	Oh, really?
	You do it.
	And all of a sudden, there's a Latina coming out in her.
	You know, it was a group effort that came up with this thing, not her.
	She says, when I introduced, I saw when she introduced, it was a whole group of people and they all went up and said something.
	She should have said, when we introduced.
	She's not a team player.
	She's going to be sorry.
	Oh, we'll see.
	If I was one of the members of the group that introduced the Green New Deal, but I'm not such a loudmouth like she is, I'd be irked by that comment that I did it.
	I introduced it.
	I wrote it.
	She didn't do that.
	It's bullcrap.
	Well, she's taken the glory for whatever it is, for whatever it's worth.
	Whatever glory there is.
	All right, we've been talking about anti-Semitism.
	You and I have seen this accusation rise significantly in just the past month.
	Everywhere there's antisemitism.
	Oh, it's antisemitic.
	Let's start here at home.
	Yeah, they're trying to turn the yellow vest into antisemitism.
	Here we go.
	PBS NewsHour with Jonathan Greenblatt.
	He is the executive director of the Anti-Defamation League.
	If the president and his supporters and anyone who is doing what Deborah refers to as these dog whistle calls, if they all went silent, the hatred and the bigotry that is anti-Semitism would still exist, wouldn't it?
	Well, of course, anti-Semitism is often called the oldest hatred.
	It's been a persistent problem for centuries, some would argue even millennia.
	But the issue is this, and we know this from the words of the white supremacists themselves, the David Dukes, the Richard Spencers, the Andrew Englunds.
	These individuals with their poisonous prejudice, they have celebrated online when they've seen terms like America first or globalist or more recently nationalist end up literally in the talking points of candidates and officials themselves.
	And I do want to say something, and this is important.
	This important is not political.
	After Charlottesville, we saw leaders from the Republican Party and the Democratic Party call this out.
	However, this demands not just saying something in response to an incident, but rather it's the climate leaders create every single day.
	And we need people in positions of authority across the board.
	Keep in mind, the 57% increase included a 90% increase of acts of anti-Semitism on college campuses.
	So whether you're the president of a university or the president of the United States...
	People in positions of authority need to shut this down as soon as they hear it.
	So now we have...
	Wait.
	It's an interesting transition.
	You didn't let it play out.
	He has to also add Farrakhan and the women, the new Muslim members of the Congress.
	That's so weird.
	I didn't find that in the clip.
	Well, why can't Farrakhan was left out?
	He's openly...
	Anti-Semitic.
	And so are some of these newer women that just came into the scene.
	No, no, no, no.
	You have it all wrong.
	You see, it's the white nationalists, which is really nationalist.
	Let's just break it down.
	I guess he didn't say patriotic, but that was all that was missing there.
	You know, he's just twisting it.
	Who is this guy?
	He's the director of the Anti-Defamation League.
	He's the go-to guy for this.
	He doesn't care about Farrakhan?
	Well, notice, white nationalists, if you claim to be a white nationalist, what do you think you're mainly against?
	People who are not white.
	But for some reason, that's now Jews.
	Oh!
	You see, this is...
	This reminds me about one time...
	This was like months and months ago in Horowitz and Dvorak D.H. Unplugged.
	Horowitz says...
	He says, when did I not become white?
	He's Jewish.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, he's not white.
	He's worked about it.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	He's not in our white club.
	Go away.
	Okay, so we're talking the same week.
	We have this on PBS NewsHour.
	Friday night, I guess it is, Bill Maher on his HBO show has an old friend of ours who we have not seen for years, Bernard-Henri Levy.
	Yeah.
	Who is this guy?
	He's French.
	I can't remember.
	Yes, he's the French intellectual douchebag.
	Yeah, he's a French...
	That's what he is.
	He's a French intellectual douchebag.
	Oh, okay.
	Bernard Levy.
	Let me look him up.
	I forgot all about this guy.
	Yeah, he was in the news...
	It must have been six years ago.
	He was all over the place.
	And anyway, so he is accentuating the anti...
	You got him?
	You remember him, right?
	Well, vaguely.
	Well, he was in the news a lot back in the day.
	I should look up when we last played a clip from him.
	Anyway, he's on Bill Maher.
	He's a nouveau philosophie.
	Yes.
	And he's there to basically connect the dots between anti-Semitism and the yellow vests.
	And it's the same stuff.
	What?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Here, listen.
	Here he comes.
	Listen to this.
	What's going on?
	Every day I read in the paper about the yellow jackets in France.
	It started out as a protest against high gas prices.
	Yeah, not just high gas prices, Bill.
	You can go ahead and say it was against a carbon tax, but, ah gee, you just can't bring yourself to say it, can you?
	What's going on?
	Every day I read in the paper about the yellow jackets in France.
	It started as a protest against high gas prices, I think.
	And it seems to have morphed into something darker with elements of anti-Semitism.
	Why does everything in Europe wind up being something involved with anti-Semitism?
	I like what he does.
	Bill Maher is good here.
	Why is everything in Europe anti-Semitic?
	They're all Jew haters all over Europe.
	Why is that?
	Come on!
	In Europe and also sometimes in America, remember Pittsburgh?
	Remember all these millions of Twitters that preceded and followed the election of Donald Trump?
	You want a competition between America and Europe?
	I don't advise.
	I don't like this sort of...
	No.
	There is today what is true.
	And again, it is...
	I don't want to make too much advertisement, but it is a topic of my book.
	There is a real...
	Wave and tide of populism.
	Populism means also, is the nickname, a gentle name for fascism, therefore for anti-Semitism.
	Okay, let's...
	Populism is the nickname...
	How can you get Clip of the Day on that one?
	I knew you'd love it.
	Clip of the Day.
	Let's just break this down.
	Mr.
	Rivers, you know, you like Adam Curry, you're a Jew hater.
	That's pretty much it.
	First we heard white nationalist is nationalist, is globalist, is anti-Semitic.
	Now we're hearing populism is fascism, is anti-Semitic.
	Wave and tide of populism.
	Populism means also, is the nickname, a gentle name for fascism, therefore for antisemitism.
	And this wave is going, wiping off all our countries.
	The West, Europe, America, of course Russia, which is the fatherland of this populism.
	The place where they popatize, marionetize this populism.
	So we have that everywhere.
	And of course, anti-Semitism is the climax of this populist trend.
	And it's absolutely normal that we have it.
	But it would be absolutely normal to resist, to face and to contain it.
	And we don't do enough it.
	And that's...
	I may have to clarify something for people.
	The fascist movement, which was an Italian...
	Quasi-intellectual movement and Bonito Mussolini was one of the main players in the development of it in the late 20s, actually mid-20s.
	It had absolutely zero people.
	It was a totalitarian style system that was Very closely hooked to corporatism where corporations were part of the government.
	But it had absolutely zero anti-Semitism built within it.
	In fact, the opposite may actually be true.
	It wasn't until Hitler came along and stole the popularity of the whole system and he put in his anti-Jewish prejudices or bigotries into the system and made it anti-Jewish.
	It never traditionally...
	Fascism does not equal anti-Semitism by definition.
	National Socialism, which is the Nazi Party, yes, that's different, but he didn't say that.
	Unfortunately, when you do not defend the meaning of words such as gay, meaning happy, gleeful, and you allow that to be changed, you can't stop other words being changed to have a meaning.
	And it's happening right here before our very eyes by intellectual elites who are just telling us these words mean something different now, and you're meant to believe it.
	Yeah.
	It's completely unacceptable.
	In Scandinavia, you're not free from this.
	And we have yellow vests also cropping up in Canada.
	Here is author slash podcaster Nora Loretto.
	Telling us exactly what this is about.
	This is a movement that is using the cover of jobs and pipelines and oil exploitation to earn their credibility into the mainstream press, while then also talking about the UN being some international conspiracy theory to, I'm not exactly sure what, override Canada with, I don't even want to continue on that line because it's just so racist and so disgusting.
	Yeah.
	She's taking it to the same place.
	United Nations is a conspiracy theory.
	You know what verbs and nouns?
	She gets these mixed up.
	I don't get it.
	It's fantastic.
	It really is.
	Well, there you go.
	It's just what it is.
	I started off joyous at the beginning of the show, and now I'm getting more and more depressed.
	Let me see, 2011, is this that same douchebag?
	Quote here for a moment, you say, I am troubled by a system of justice, modestly termed accusatory, meaning that anyone can come along and that is what the complainant, the victim, so allegedly, have been shot of hate.
	Yeah, 2011 is the last time we heard from him, eight years ago.
	And this guy's back.
	He's a frog.
	Probably got a book coming up.
	That's what he just said.
	He said this is exactly what his book is about.
	His book is about populism turning into anti-Semitism.
	And he's got the Anti-Defamation League to back everybody up.
	The Anti-Defamation League should be ashamed of itself by not mentioning Farrakhan if they're going to go there.
	Well, not in any clips I saw.
	No, because they didn't.
	No.
	Because this would kind of impinge on the Democrat Party.
	This has become a political organization, partisan toward the Democrats.
	It's unacceptable.
	So I have a clip.
	Well, let's...
	Change gears a little bit, unless you want to stop and take a pause, because we're going to have to take a couple of extra breaks.
	Well, yeah, so maybe I should talk about the meetup first before we go into a regular segment.
	Talk about who we saw and who had what to say and who had some nice notes, etc.
	Yeah, you've got a lot more notes than general.
	That seems to me, because I looked at your little list of things to talk about, and you had a lot of notes.
	Well, we don't have to read every single one of them, obviously.
	No, but you want to read the good ones.
	Yeah, I do.
	I got them right here.
	So let's start our segment.
	Let's start the segment, and then we can do...
	You'll do the meet-up reads, because we have a separate group.
	All right.
	And then we'll do the regular stuff, and then we can go back to the show.
	Well, let me start by thanking you for your courage, and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in cold-ass Iowa, John C. Dvorak!
	And in the morning to you, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Feet's in the air, subs in the water, boots on the ground.
	I did that at the beginning of the show.
	Well, in the morning to you, sir.
	In the morning to all of the human resources in our troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to have you all there.
	Thanks.
	I love you guys showing up, helping us out, particularly when we're on location and things need a little more help from the trolls.
	And I'd also like to say in the morning to Sir Lowenbrough.
	Who, man, it's been a long time since he had some artwork.
	He did the art for episode 1114, titled That Was Fudged.
	And this was the Orange Man Bad Poison Control patch.
	It was a great patch to have.
	I think we got this from Evergreens.
	Yeah, it's an older one.
	He probably doesn't even listen to the show anymore.
	Well, I don't know about that.
	Well, I'm guessing.
	He probably does.
	Probably does.
	But I don't know.
	Why couldn't we find any art that was recently submitted?
	Do you recall?
	Yeah, because it wasn't up to our normal high standards.
	Oh, okay.
	That's it.
	It was straddling.
	A lot of it was predictive.
	A lot of it wasn't funny.
	Oh, right.
	Predictive.
	Yeah, a lot of people do this.
	They'll...
	They'll think they know what topics we're going to talk about and make art beforehand.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it doesn't work very well usually.
	It generally never works.
	No.
	Okay, so we had our big meet-up here in Des Moines, Iowa.
	Before you go to the meet-up, how was the wedding?
	Well, the meet-up was first.
	The wedding was yesterday.
	And the wedding was fantastic.
	It was at the Botanical Gardens, which is a really great venue.
	No, it's inside.
	They're inside in a tropical dome.
	It was really nice.
	And Keeper and I danced the night away and groovy.
	Got in way too late and I got up nice and early to do the show.
	But the meetup was on Friday.
	As we traveled from...
	We got up really early Friday morning.
	We were on a plane at 10 to 6 to St.
	Louis.
	You cannot get directly to Des Moines from...
	Pretty much anywhere.
	So we had a layover, a three-hour layover in St.
	Louis.
	Pretty much the whole trip should have taken three hours, not even, from Austin to Des Moines.
	Yeah, so we got in and then got turned around, everything set up, and went straight off to the hall, which, again, thanks to the owner for letting us brandish weapons and make a right old ruckus, I said there was about 70 people.
	Now, I think this was coordinated by Joshua Thompson.
	I think he was the original coordinator who worked with Mimi.
	And so I want to thank him right up front.
	He gave $33, which was $30 in paper, and three Susan B. Anthony silver dollars.
	Are they the silver ones or the copper ones?
	Do they look like...
	He said they were silver.
	They look silver.
	I don't know.
	How would I know if they're copper?
	They're made out of nickel, then.
	It's not silver?
	No.
	I like them anyway.
	They're really nice.
	Put them in a little thing.
	Go to one of your...
	Go to the coin and stamp store and get these little containers, these things.
	You can put the coin in there and you fold it up and you got a coin in a little square thing.
	Exactly.
	Thanks to an anonymous donor, $40, no note, no name.
	Almost everybody did a good job with envelopes and with notes and putting their name on it.
	Although $49, that was a check and I don't want to mention their names because that's kind of an anonymous, that's one of our signs that that is meant to be an anonymous donation.
	Yeah, it's because it is.
	Yeah, well, there you go.
	Otherwise you would have donated $50.
	Yes.
	$50 from John and Aaron Shriver.
	They had no note.
	Jake Nichols, $60.
	And he had a very nice note.
	And he also gave me a book.
	Which may have to enter the No Agenda reading list.
	Foundations, Their Power and Influence by Rene Wormser.
	Now, we've talked about the foundations and how they influence education by literally giving money and saying only if you use it for social justice warrior stuff.
	And his donation is dedicated to my late grandfather, Lloyd D. Johnson, an accomplished engineer who was part of an engineering team that designed and built the gyroscopic navigational control module for the moon lander in the 60s.
	And, legend has it, a pair of his shoes were sent in the time capsule to the moon during one of the trial runs of the landing.
	How about that?
	Well, there you go.
	I'm petitioning JCD to start an Instagram page to archive his archives.
	The people demand access.
	He actually says, hoarding, and it's crossed out.
	Archives.
	The people demand access.
	Barry Richardson, $66.
	He says, in the morning, love the show.
	Josiah Thomas, $75.
	No notes.
	Josh Moser, He needed a dedouching, so let me give him the dedouching.
	This is his, I think, his first, maybe his first ever.
	You've been dedouched.
	Let me see if I can find his note really quickly.
	I don't think I can find it.
	You do this so much better than I do with these notes.
	All right, then we have...
	Yeah, I know, right?
	Then we had our knighting on the spot, Steve Drury.
	And let me see.
	Oh, by the way, can I mention something?
	Yes.
	I'm never going to do that.
	I'm just telling everybody in advance.
	Oh, okay.
	You won't knight him.
	Actually, this is Steve Drury who becomes a knight today where he's completed his knighthood with $80.
	He becomes circumspect.
	Then we have...
	Circumspect the second.
	Must be.
	$95 from...
	We're not sure.
	The note said Doob.
	D-O-O-B. So I'm not sure who that was.
	Scott of the Tall Corn...
	He gave $100 and he gave us some very nice Iowa tags.
	I have a name tag and there's some stuff in here for you, all Iowa related.
	And lots of nice little goodies.
	And he says that he has a hoodie for the foamer in chief when you come to Iowa.
	So he's putting the screws to you there.
	Todd McGreevy, $100.
	He says, please, if you can, do more topics about Agenda 21, which I think we kind of call Agenda 2030, or these days we just call the Green New Deal, even though he feels that we don't talk about Agenda 21 anymore, and people should definitely look at it.
	We used to talk about it a lot.
	Yeah, now it's kind of morphed into, you know, some stuff we see right in front of us.
	I think Green New Deal is a fantastic example of Agenda 21.
	And he asked if we plug MarigoldResources.com for producers who need help in buying or selling a business.
	Sir Dirt Farmer of Illinois, $100.
	No jingles.
	He'd want to adjust karma, so we can do that for him.
	You've got karma.
	Joshua Kratke, $100, and he had these beautiful laser-cut name tags.
	I have one for you.
	It's wood, but it's cut with a laser, and it says John C. Dvorak, podcaster.
	I think it would be nice.
	Does it have a pin on it?
	It has a magnetic connector.
	You'll need it because it's kind of heavy.
	It may drag your T-shirt down a bit.
	It's beautiful.
	It'll keep you afloat, though, if you fall in the water.
	AJ Bolin, $100 from him, and he had actually one of the nicest cards, a handmade card.
	Very pretty.
	Dear Adam and John, I'm so very grateful for everything you two do to bring sanity to a seemingly insane world.
	This donation is the least I can do to thank you both.
	All I ask for in return is a simple karma and the hope that the two of you will carry on for as long as you can.
	And he came in from Minnesota, which is quite a drive.
	We appreciate that.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Knight of the East Side is $100.
	And then we had the father-son duo Mark and Michael Halby.
	And they had a very interesting idea.
	They had a whole stack of 3D printer tags.
	You may have seen one of the pictures on Twitter.
	You know, respect, resist we much in the morning.
	And they had this big bowl and they said, you know, grab any tag you want, value for value, throw whatever money you want into the bucket.
	And 33% of all online orders goes to the show.
	So they have more of them at noagendatags.com.
	So they hauled in $190 on the evening.
	And so that was donated to the show.
	Very nice.
	Sir John and Dame Amy of House Punu.
	$200.
	And Dame Amy was very adamant that this be applied to her donations and not to Sir John.
	Let's see.
	I don't think we had any other notes there.
	Dave Albrecht, $200.
	And he...
	Will be knighted today.
	And he wants spreadsheets and ghost guns at the round table.
	And he will become Sir Dude named Dave Dewar of Deeds of the Great Plains.
	And let's see, he wanted a mac and cheese, a money shot, and a rubbleizer, which I happen to have ready for everybody right here.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
	India, tango, mic.
	Standby.
	33, 33, 33.
	Roboizer out.
	You've got karma.
	What I couldn't find was the, uh...
	Hey, where'd that go?
	Where'd the, uh...
	Where'd the money shot go?
	Darn it.
	I'll owe him the money shot.
	That's a sure enough money shot!
	Woo, Jesus!
	Woo, Lord!
	Look at that!
	That's a money shot!
	Ken Ann Conway is a money shot!
	So we'll see you at the roundtable later, Sir Dave.
	Sir Benjamin T. Ritgers.
	He's a guy who's been around.
	He gave us a couple of cool challenge coins to divvy up, and $200.01.
	And let's see, I think he had a quick note.
	Let me see, where is he?
	Yes, here he is.
	John Adam, thank you for the show.
	It keeps me sane, keeps my amygdala strong, and small, hopefully.
	I hope the place in Des Moines, I... Oh, I guess Sir Benjamin took care of this.
	There are multiple people who are working on this one.
	Can I please get a Reverend Al Respicht?
	Enclosed is a few challenge coins of groups that I'm in and a bottle of Iowa wine, which I think is craps.
	Have you ever heard of this particular?
	Craps?
	Craps wine?
	C-R-A-P-P-S? No, never heard of it.
	But, you know, you can grow wine in lots of parts of the country if you use the right grape.
	Okay.
	And we will definitely give you a karma.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T. You've got karma.
	Okay, then we have Sir Whitney Knight of the Court.
	It's a douchebag call-out you didn't do.
	It's coming up right here.
	Sir Whitney, Knight of the Corn Belt, Conspiracies, and Smoking Hot Wife Amy...
	First of all, Adam, thanks for coming to the Midwest.
	A pleasure to meet you in Des Moines.
	Hope you and Tina enjoyed the awful winter weather.
	Yes, we did.
	This donation amount us to celebrate the fourth birthday of our first human resource, Warner.
	That'll be February 27th.
	We were both avid listeners, began listening very shortly after his birth.
	The poor kid has been listening to you guys his whole life.
	His jingle requests are mac and cheese, bugs, bugs, bugs, goat scream, orange man, bad, and butt slammed.
	He often refers to butt-slamming people, and we have to gently remind him he shouldn't say that around other people.
	No kidding.
	How old is he?
	He's going to be one.
	What?
	I know.
	He says he can do it.
	He's very precocious at one.
	I kind of like it.
	Douchebag call-outs.
	To my brother Calvin.
	Douchebag!
	And my friend and drummer Nate.
	Douchebag!
	And partials.
	Partials?
	I don't think we do partial douchebaggings.
	Partials to my dad and Dan because I make them listen to you guys at work.
	Okay.
	Douchebag!
	Two partials is a full one together.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	I love dogs!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs.
	Mmm.
	Tastes like poo, eh?
	Orange man bad.
	Whoa!
	You got butt slams!
	New thoughts.
	Karma.
	Okay, Dave and Diane Holst, which I have somewhere.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I guess I misplaced that one.
	All right.
	Send it in again to me, Dave and Diane, but thank you very much for your $333.33 and a Karma to you as requested.
	You've got Karma now.
	And then we get Paul Richardson, who was knighted at the meetup.
	He was knighted circuitous.
	How do I pronounce this?
	C-U-I-T-O-U-S. Circuitous?
	Circuitous.
	Circuitous, thank you.
	What does circuitous mean?
	If I'm going to tell you a story about how I got from point A to point B, but instead I take a circuitous route of telling the story, it becomes a shaggy dog story, and I finally tell you how I got there.
	Ah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Makes total sense.
	It makes no sense.
	Yeah, it does.
	For him it does.
	So he's a circuitous route of the scooter clubs, and we'll be knighting him on the show as well.
	Later on, $375.
	Thank you.
	The anonymous procrastinator sent us a nice tender thoughts card.
	He just wanted a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	Thank you for your courage and the amazing product.
	Truly is the best podcast in the universe.
	I just got as massive dedouching as requested.
	I have been a long-time listener and this will be my first donation.
	I already feel better by stepping across the divide and joining the Value for Value Fellowship.
	Your show never ceases to amaze me.
	The combination of stellar sound quality, insightful discussion and introduction and updates of world events being ignored by the M5M make your show personally irreplaceable.
	I really appreciate the movie and book recommendations.
	Keep them coming.
	Although I do kind of miss the second half of show stories.
	Eamon Fisbump kind regards the anonymous procrastinator.
	P.S. I hope to drop a five hundo in the hands of JCD at a future meetup.
	And he wants some small business jobs karma and just send your cash.
	What else did he want here?
	Foamer and a goat scream.
	So we'll add the goat scream to your karma.
	And that was $500 from the anonymous procrastinator.
	Thank you very much, sir, for your curse.
	Just change your cash.
	We just need cash.
	We can't take that.
	Oh my god!
	Listen to that hand!
	And finally on our list, Brian Anonymous, $500, and he needs a douchebag call-out to the anonymous procrastinator for not donating.
	Douchebag!
	So I should have done those.
	Now you gotta de-douche him.
	Yes, exactly right.
	You've been de-douched.
	That's fantastic.
	And he wants, he does want a karma, but he doesn't want any jingles.
	All he wants to hear is John's chair squeak.
	Let me see if I can get in the right position.
	Yeah, I guess it's kind of good.
	It's not real squeaky today.
	It's not very squeaky at all.
	One note here.
	Dear John and Adam, please use my name.
	Susan Bosenberg.
	Thank you for the sanity and insight to M5M tricks.
	Please also request health karma for my spouse.
	He's being worked up for a neuro problem, which might be ALS. He does not listen, but was agreeable to the five-hour drive on one condition that he got a picture with Adam.
	Pretty sure that happened.
	And she wanted to have clippity-clop, which is good.
	We haven't heard clippity-clop in a while.
	And also a rub-alizer.
	Which doesn't happen very often.
	And a two to the head.
	India.
	Tango.
	Mike.
	Standby.
	33.
	Rub-alizer.
	Out.
	The message is clear.
	You've got karma.
	Karma.
	And that's just about do it.
	One final thank you to the producer whose name I did not get.
	He didn't write it down anywhere.
	He works for the Des Moines International Airport Crash and Fire Rescue.
	So when you crash your plane, he goes and gets you.
	And he actually said, hey, have you ever declared an emergency?
	I said, no.
	He said, well, when you do, I'm the guy that comes out looking for you.
	And so he gave me one of those cool patches for my flight jacket.
	Oh, cool.
	Thank you very much.
	And thanks, everybody.
	Thank you all so much for coming.
	I might have missed one or two people.
	Let us know.
	Email us.
	We'll definitely try and fix that.
	And I want to thank Tina the Keeper for being a fantastic help.
	If it was just me by myself, it would have been hard to just maneuver around.
	She was making sure I talked to everybody, and she was helping out with all the pictures.
	It was really a great event, and I want to thank everyone for coming out, especially those who came from so far away.
	And wait, there's more.
	Uh-oh.
	There's a meetup coming up in...
	Okay, I put this in a note.
	There's a meetup coming up in Austin, I believe.
	This Saturday.
	Friday.
	Saturday.
	Saturday.
	And that meetup in Des Moines was quite successful.
	But it's been the Texans who have been moaning and groaning and moaning and groaning and moaning and groaning about not having a meetup.
	They have to top this.
	They have to.
	So we need more than 70 people to show up.
	And we have a special guest star appearing at the Austin, Texas meetup.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, besides Tina the Keeper, of course.
	Eric the Shield will be joining us.
	Ah, Eric DeShield will keep things in line.
	I think he's coming to check on me, to make sure we're doing everything the way we're supposed to.
	So, looking forward to that.
	Eric DeShield will be at the meetup.
	That'll be at the Austin Beer Works on the 2nd of March.
	That's this Saturday.
	It starts at 3.33 p.m.
	Looking forward to seeing everybody there.
	Austin Beer Works.
	Go to noagendameetups.com to find out more.
	And now let us thank our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1115.
	Yes, starting with Sir Taki.
	Sir Taki.
	And, uh, Den Dolder, Holland, is that right?
	Yeah, Den Dolder, correct.
	Sertaki.
	Yeah, Taco.
	Taco, Taco, Sertaki.
	Taco, Sertaki.
	He is, uh, he gave a thousand dollars.
	Whoa!
	Which means he could be bumped up, but he doesn't say anything.
	After my second call out, thanks Robin, thanks Sandra, in the last week's show, I finally realized that I should do now what I should have done years ago.
	The way you have been deconstructing media in general, and more specifically predicting globalistic themes like the war on men, way before they actually hit, the Netherlands is unmatched and absolutely priceless.
	So forgive me, Potfather, for I have sinned.
	Please de-douche me and accept this nightly donation.
	Aretha Franklin, Elle Sharpton, Respect Jingle would be my way to honor the No Agenda Show.
	Thanks for all the entertainment, knowledge, and insights.
	All right.
	And of course, you might want to check out Sir Roderick with this TPO podcast if you're looking for something comparable to the No Agenda Show in the lowlands.
	You've been de-douched.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	You've got karma.
	Gretchen Wittig, $333.33.
	It's a crawfish...
	Boyle donation?
	How about a hint of that sweet, sweet jobs karma for everybody in the No Agenda nation who's looking for a change?
	I just landed a stellar new gig, and I'm pretty sure that all the jobs, jobs, jobs floating around gave me the edge I needed.
	Thanks, No Agenda.
	I'm paying it forward.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	David Alston in Yukon, Oklahoma.
	333.
	Finally finishing my knighthood after years of being a small donation douchebag since your early episodes.
	You're not a douchebag if you're giving anything.
	I made my final payment on our twins' college tuition and now can afford to pay you guys.
	Please de-douche me and give me a karma and I want a special two to the head since all the knights are probably tracked by the CIA. Also, I'm definitely putting this shit on my LinkedIn account.
	And we'll leave the rest out.
	You've been de-douched.
	Thanks for the thought.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you very much.
	Robert Mendes, $290.
	It's okay to use my name.
	Okay, we did.
	And thank you, gentlemen, for being who you are.
	It took me a little while, but at the end of the day, I've enjoyed every episode since 2008.
	We actually haven't gotten to the show 2008 yet.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	I get it.
	The show has given me such great insight about the world and continues to keep me balanced through these interesting times.
	The donation should get me to knighthood and let me know if you need anything to confirm that.
	I get the opportunity to join the other knights and dames at the roundtable on Sunday, February 24th.
	I'd very much like to attend Sir He-Him.
	I'm trying to dial down my meat intake so some Malta.com leche would do it for me.
	I'll keep this note short and ask everyone out there listening to make sure you contribute to the show through one of the subscription models.
	Nothing beats value for value, so do it now.
	It's a fact that No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe.
	If time permits, I'd like some simple No Agenda jingles.
	Jobs Karma for everyone who needs it, of course.
	Karma for everyone in the show, which would be the same jingle.
	A de-douching, which he does need.
	Just send us your cash.
	And if it exists, nap for humanity.
	And then if you can do the end of the show at the end of the day full.
	Yeah.
	I don't know what that means.
	And I'll give you a little taste of the end of the day right now.
	You've been deduced.
	Thank God.
	Just send your cash.
	We just need cash.
	We can take that to the bank.
	Nap for humanity.
	But at the end of the day, they're backing him.
	You know, they're backing him.
	Come on.
	At the end of the day.
	At the end of the day, John.
	If someone wants to get anyone, they can get him.
	At the end of the day.
	At the end of the day.
	You've got karma.
	Full version at the end of the show.
	Lined up.
	Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms, who's coming in with $234.56.
	Please wish a happy birthday to my 24-year-old milfy wife, Janet.
	She's turning 44!
	Also, Semper Fidelis to all my jarhead brothers out there.
	Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms.
	What's his website again?
	Yeah, lavenderblossoms.org.
	I was just talking last night to somebody at the wedding.
	I said, you know, if you have arthritis or pain in your hands or something, try this stuff out.
	Lavenderblossoms.org.
	Thanks, Cal.
	Yeah.
	And your milfy white.
	And Semper Fi.
	Sir Dennis Goad in Bettendorf, Iowa.
	23456.
	Great meetup in Des Moines.
	Thanks, Sir Ben Ritgers, for organizing.
	There you go.
	Thanks, Sir Patrick of Tennessee, for all the food.
	Oh, yeah.
	And check the next name who was there.
	Thanks, Sir Ramsey Cain, for the great swag.
	Well, good for him.
	Everyone was there, man.
	It was great.
	Thanks, Adam and the Keeper, for taking time out of your weekend.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Sir Dennis Goode.
	Thank you, Sir Dennis.
	All right, and that concludes our well-wishers, our executive producers, associate executive producers, and the meetup members that showed up, the complete list.
	And I want to thank them all for supporting this show, No Agenda, show number 1115.
	Yeah, we had a great time, and I look forward to more meetups.
	As John said, we have the big Austin, Texas meetup coming this Saturday.
	But this one was particularly special because so many people came from reasonably large distances just to be here.
	And it was a lot of excitement, and it was just a great crowd.
	And besides us meeting everybody, I think everyone else enjoyed meeting each other.
	So hopefully we'll do another one in Iowa in the future.
	Actually, no agenda people that go to these meetings and start to meet each other, even though you don't meet everybody, you meet a lot of them.
	They get along famously, and sometimes you end up with a situation like Local One up in Michigan.
	They have meetups like every month.
	Yeah, and they create their own little groups and just hang out.
	Very social groups.
	And there's plenty of producers here in Iowa itself, and many of them were there.
	So I think that they could certainly have their own local Iowa 1.
	But again, it was just really nice to have everybody flow in.
	Local 2.
	Local 2, I'm sorry.
	We know who owns Local 1.
	It'll be Local 2, of course.
	That's a union state.
	They're not going to put up with this sort of thing.
	We will be back on Thursday for another episode of the best podcast in the universe.
	You are more than welcome to support the work.
	Please consider doing that at Dvorak.org slash NA. And you are now well up to speed on a lot of what's going on.
	You can take that and propagate.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Whoa!
	Whoa!
	You got butt plans!
	Shut up, Steve.
	All right.
	Oh, I have an update.
	We were talking about the douchebag reporting from Tucker Carlson regarding scrommeting, the screaming and vomiting combo, which supposedly takes place when you smoke too much weed.
	And this has an actual name, cannabinoid hyperamesis syndrome, CHS, and I called bullshit on it the first time, I called bullshit on it the second time that it came up, particularly because...
	I don't know what Tucker Carlson's problem is with weed, but he has such a disdain for it.
	But he was very specific.
	Him and his staff doctor, this came from smoking too much weed.
	That's the way you recall it as well, John?
	That is the way I recall it.
	Now, I want to interject here that there have been some instances in certain states, although I think this may be exaggerated too, where people...
	You have too many edibles because it takes two hours before they take effect and they After an hour, nothing happens, so they take more, and then still nothing happens, so they take more, and the next thing you know...
	I had three of our producers email me, and they all had very similar notes.
	You're mocking this.
	It's true.
	It is true.
	I had it.
	I was screaming and puking.
	I lost 35 pounds.
	It was the most horrible experience ever.
	I'm like, what?
	What?
	I've never heard of this.
	And I am a daily, pretty much daily smoker of the flower.
	How did you lose 35 pounds?
	Well, this went on for weeks.
	Oh, weeks.
	Okay.
	I figured out what's going on.
	This is not, repeat, not from people smoking weed.
	This is from people who dab.
	And now I understand the problem.
	And if you don't know what dabbing is, dabbing is an extraction, well, it's a smoking wax, essentially THCX, which is hash, they call it wax, but it's hash oil, which is extracted using butane.
	So it's butane hash oil extracts.
	People are also using propane now to extract it.
	And I've had some of this.
	I've smoked some wax.
	I was like, this is not weed.
	This is like some chemical.
	I mean, it's incredibly strong.
	And it's not pleasurable.
	But I think that there's this contingent of people who really love this chemically treated marrow hash oil, hemp oil.
	Can I stop?
	Please.
	Did all three producers send you pretty much the same note and did all three producers imbibe through this method?
	Yes.
	So none of them were smoking.
	I mean, to me, smoking dope, smoking weed, smoking the reefer, any of these things entails making a small cigarette.
	And then smoking it as if it was something cigarette-like.
	Yes.
	That, to me, is smoking.
	This is like the difference between cocaine and crack.
	Yeah, in a way, that's similar.
	Now, this is typically, and if you want to know where a lot of these so-called vape pen explosions come from, a lot of the dabbers use very high-powered battery vape systems known as MODS. Which can be very dangerous if they don't have protection for overload.
	And they put a little bit of the wax there on the coil and then it heats it up because of essentially the short circuit you're creating with a lithium ion battery.
	And then that is inhaled.
	But that's not the same as marijuana.
	So regardless of whether it's coming from some cannabinoid product, it is not, repeat, not from smoking weed.
	Which makes Tucker Carlson's report even stupider, especially because he had a doctor there.
	It is true that a hot shower helps and people do have severe reaction to it.
	Well, this sort of practice should be discouraged by Tucker Carlson, not used as evidence against the whole everything.
	Exactly.
	I consider that to be dishonest reporting.
	There is one other thing that one of our producers sent this in.
	He says what's happening now is in California, growers, you know, there's all kinds of rules and regulations.
	So if they have moldy marijuana or stuff that may be caterpillars, apparently they have a caterpillar issue and they're eating up all of the crops.
	So then these growers, when they can't sell them into the official market, they will basically hand them off to the extractors, the BHO, butane hash oil extractors, which then ends up in the vape cartridges, which are legal to buy, and then you've got some contaminated shit that you're inhaling again through a vaporizer.
	People!
	Just get the flower.
	That's the way it was intended.
	You don't need anything extra.
	Just the flower.
	And you're right.
	Roll it up.
	And that's the way to go.
	And all this other stuff is...
	I think you're playing with your life.
	And I cannot recommend it.
	End of lecture.
	Yes, end of lecture, and end of looking out for the reefer madness of Fox News and Tucker Carlson.
	It's wrong.
	Well, I have my theory on that already.
	Well, go ahead.
	Well, I told it before.
	This is all because of the O'Reilly market, which is what, because Carlson took over the O'Reilly spot, and everybody who listens at that moment expects anti-marijuana propaganda.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	Well, screw them.
	Hey, so there's an Israeli trip to the moon coming finally.
	They got to go check on the moon bases, see how they're doing.
	But apparently they can't get there.
	They have to go whipping around around the earth like for a month and then get slingshotted out to the moon because we don't make a big rocket anymore.
	The big Saturn V rocket that was used to go to the moon.
	And if you ever look at a rocket comparison chart, you see rocket rocket Titan 2, you see all these rockets, and there's a Saturn V monstrosity, which is the biggest thing ever built, and they can't build them anymore because it costs too much.
	The season 70s made the trip to the moon in three days, thanks to giant Saturn V rockets.
	Without that kind of boost, the Israeli craft has to orbit Earth in growing circles until lunar gravity finally pulls it in in April.
	I can't wait for rockets to not be making it, to be crashing, blowing up, stuff to go wrong.
	It's not going to happen.
	I am now more convinced than ever when I read in between the lines of all these, oh, we're going back to the moon after, what is it now, 50 years?
	Woo-hoo!
	Let's see you do it.
	Please land with one of those lunar modules.
	Can't wait.
	I'm skeptical, as you can tell.
	Yeah, it's nothing new.
	How about, here's a clip, I put these clips and I do, I pre-produce them now the day before, so sometimes I forget what they're about.
	So I'm not sure what the Debra Eisenstadt on sexism weirdo clip is.
	Let's see what it is.
	To be honest, I was battling a lot of sexism while I made this.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	How so?
	Who is Debra Eisenstadt?
	Oh, okay, stop, stop that clip.
	All right.
	That clip, I'm saving that clip.
	To use in conjunction with the Emilia Clarke clip.
	Okay.
	At a moment in time where we're talking about this topic, because now I know what it is.
	I'm sorry that I should have not forgotten.
	Okay, you want to redeem yourself with something else?
	Yes, I got Jill Abramson.
	I knew you would have time for this.
	Thank you so much, because this was a C-SPAN thing, and I certainly wasn't able to do it.
	Well, I got one, two, three, they're short.
	We said one, no, two of them are long, actually two minutes, but one, two, three, four, plus two fabulous ISOs.
	Wow.
	And it's the ISOs you're going to probably like the most.
	Okay.
	But she talks a lot about, you know, I didn't care too much about her going on and on about what was and what wasn't plagiarism.
	But she did lose the plot.
	You know, we talked about, we had the clip from the Canadian Land podcast where she, where they talk about how Jill said that she sent the thing to Vice and then never got anything.
	But that's not true.
	That whole clip from Canada Land was very dubious.
	Unfortunately, when she starts talking about it in this particular clip where she loses the plot, she loses her train of thought.
	And the woman who's interviewing her, which is that the old NPR CEO, who's the one who said that.
	Oh, the one from advertising?
	Oh, what's her name again?
	No, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't really matter.
	But she sounds like the same...
	I'll think of her name as we go.
	But watch how she loses the plot, and then the interviewer, which is this ex-NPR woman...
	If you're losing your train of thought and you're the interviewer, it's pretty much the interviewer's purview to bring you back in the line.
	Yeah.
	With some memorables, anything.
	You try to trigger the talk.
	No, never happens.
	We don't even get the end of the story.
	At Vice, because I saw my portrait over all of them as being balanced.
	Well, you do document a lot of the missteps and some of the internal issues around hair.
	You said we're going to go back to that issue.
	But that is why I gave...
	In manuscript version, the three chapters of Vice to the then spokesman of Vice to rake over.
	Her fry is on fire!
	They did.
	And I am so certain that I may...
	They didn't give me anything in writing, whereas the other place I gave manuscript pages was the Times, which came back...
	Pretty comprehensively in writing.
	So it's possible because I'm better on print than through my ears, although I do listen to...
	So each news organization saw the chapters?
	An editor at each one, I asked.
	But anyway...
	What point were we on that we were talking about chart beat and analytics?
	That BuzzFeed has been able to embrace and harness this for a long time.
	That was all.
	Vivian Schiller is her name.
	Yeah, Vivian Schiller.
	She couldn't get her back on track.
	In fact, she even pushed her off the track by going on about stuff that wasn't even discussed.
	Anyway, so she talks some good stuff here.
	Here's what she did.
	This starts off with the discussion of how luxury watches started being covered on the New York Times for no good reason.
	And then she begins to talk about how analytics has affected coverage and why Trump gets so much negative publicity.
	I didn't know any of this.
	Well, it's because I haven't been in a newsroom probably for well over a decade.
	But I had no idea that, for example, apparently at the Washington Post they have a board.
	It's like the Max Headroom movie where the ratings are, oh, we got so many clicks on story number five.
	Let's do another story like that.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, goodness.
	This is the luxury watches clip.
	Watches.
	Luxury watches.
	Desperately needed journalistic.
	Well, you know, Bill Keller and my collective view was like, there is nothing really newsworthy.
	But that wasn't the point, of course.
	But, you know, that does run in the times now.
	And it still, you know, rankles me.
	And, you know, I was probably not the executive editor match perfectly with my time.
	We also challenge the access, the newsroom's access to analytics itself.
	On how stories are performing.
	You talk about an episode where it was introduced at the Washington Post.
	Well, now, you know, they have these big boards.
	You see by the second what stories are being done.
	And that may, dare I say, help explain why sometimes when I'm on the Post app, I have to scroll like maybe twice, sometimes three times, because they mix opinion with news on one of their apps.
	It's all Trump.
	Because, you know, and maybe Trump is, you know, he's obviously the master newsmaker, and that's exactly what he wants.
	But all of those stories are getting like big audiences and lots of clicks.
	Yes.
	You know, there is an implied incentive to have so many.
	And at the Times, you know, I have a friend who still works there who admitted to me that when they aren't writing on Trump and something else, like on Chartbeat, or now the Times journalists can easily have access to analytics.
	Okay, so breaking this down, what she's saying is, and it's hard for people who are new to Jill Abrams to understand what she's talking about.
	So the journalists write stories.
	There's an analytics board in the newsroom that shows whose story is getting the most reads, clicks, whatever.
	And then that's the incentive for them to go and do more of that, which for their audience, of course, is Trump.
	We don't even know if it's reads, just clicks.
	Well, this is like...
	That's going to kill them, man.
	That's going to kill all news.
	I agree, because this is something that I... I started writing on the web early, and I've always wanted to see what the analytics were because I kind of wrote clickbait-style headlines and still do.
	And I can see where you would start to think that, oh, this one worked, this one didn't.
	And they kind of encouraged that in magazines because they want to keep everyone...
	Ah, but wait, you're saying something important here.
	It's not the article, it's the headline.
	Well, it was always the headline.
	Well, I mean, but the clicks, their analytics are on the clicks, and the clicks are going to be on the headlines, not on the story.
	And we don't know if someone necessarily read the story, do we, in their newsroom analytics big board?
	This thing called ChartStat or whatever it is, there's some...
	I don't know what these systems do anymore, but I would assume they probably emphasize headline writing, and that's why headline writing is so important.
	It's got to be, yeah.
	But it's always been that way, except you never got the feedback.
	And...
	And it wasn't so encouraged.
	Not everybody can write good headlines.
	That's why for most writers, the headlines aren't written by the writers.
	They tend to be written by the editors.
	And even though some editors cannot write very good headlines either, some can write fabulous headlines, but very few.
	This is needle-watching.
	This is like, again, Max Headroom, where if you remember that movie, especially the movie is much better than the TV show was.
	Rent that movie if you've never seen it.
	It's like real-time TV where they just, you know, the ratings are in real-time so there's a meter going on constantly.
	Talk about something else.
	And then the meter goes up.
	Talk about something else.
	It goes up higher.
	And then it starts dropping off.
	You're fired!
	Not to toot our own horn, but I think our analytics are the only ones that are really truthful and honest.
	And that's why we're transparent about them.
	If we don't get enough support to pay rent, then we're not doing it.
	Then we're doing something wrong.
	It's that simple.
	So let's play her on that.
	They're talking about what model works for the news business.
	And there's a kind of a fundamental mistake made here by the interviewer.
	What's her name?
	Vivian.
	Vivian Shore.
	What Jill said and what Vivian assumes and what Jill then confirms kind of misses the major point, which I'm going to point out.
	$709 million in earnings per week.
	It's extraordinary.
	Do you think that is a model that can work for news organizations everywhere?
	I wish I did.
	Me too.
	The problem is that only...
	News companies that do journalism at the highest quality levels and publish stories that you can't find anywhere else.
	The model will work.
	You think it's only a matter of quality?
	I do.
	Wait a minute.
	What are they saying now?
	They're talking about what model works for the news business because the New York Times said 708 or some $700 million plus.
	In digital subscriptions.
	And so Vivian's asking her, is it possible that everyone can make this kind of money?
	And she says, no.
	So you can listen to the whole clip again.
	She's no, and she's because we, you know, we do something the other papers can't do, which is we have a big, they have a, they do, they have a large staff of people and they dig into things a little more and they have bureaus all over the place.
	And if smaller places can't do that, they're probably going to all die.
	But there's a mistake being made in here, so play the whole clip again.
	Okay, hold on.
	Shoot, hold on a second.
	Oh yes, model, here we go.
	709 million in earnings per week.
	It's extraordinary.
	Do you think that is a model that can work for news organizations everywhere?
	I wish I did.
	Me too.
	The problem is that only News companies that do journalism at the highest quality levels and publish stories that you can't find anywhere else.
	The model will work.
	You think it's only a matter of quality?
	I do.
	Oh, I see.
	So it's only because they're so incredibly good.
	No, no.
	What it was is what Jill answered was the reasons were is because of high quality and things you can't find elsewhere.
	Right, exclusive.
	And then Vivian says, oh, do you think it's only because of high quality?
	No, that's not what Abrams said, Abramson.
	That's not what she said.
	She said high quality and information that can't be found elsewhere.
	Right.
	Well, it's the information that...
	Why would it...
	What's...
	It's information that can't be found elsewhere that's the key to this.
	The quality is just secondary.
	Yeah, the joke of it is all the information that the New York Times has that can't be found elsewhere comes from multiple people familiar with the situation and people who would not go on record.
	We're talking about the finished product, not the bad sourcing.
	In fact, your point actually makes the high quality thing take a back seat because high quality is not...
	Oh, this guy, according to sources, we think this guy, we think that, or having people make stuff up like that editorial.
	So that quality at the New York Times is not great.
	But what makes it all work is that they do have stories you can't find anyplace else.
	Yeah, they're bullcrap.
	And that's why the Wall Street Journal did the paywall and made it work because the Wall Street Journal has a lot of reporters digging up stuff you can't find anyplace else.
	The quality, be damned, it's not about the quality.
	It's just about the exclusive of the stories, which could also just be playing into your own little bias bubble, but that's neither here nor there.
	I just think that Vivian blew the, for some reason, she had it in her mind that it had to be quality, quality, quality.
	So you can write the most quality, high quality stuff.
	You know, you want high quality stuff?
	Go buy a book.
	Yeah.
	That's your high quality right there.
	Okay, so let's go.
	This is the last one.
	This is where I think she got fired.
	I mean, she bitched about not getting enough money.
	But I think this last one, the natus, it says natus.
	The native ad summary on Jill is how, this is the problem that the New York Times has.
	Digital world that we're living in today, which brings some advantages.
	Much is getting lost.
	And at risk is that journalistic ethics has become compromised.
	Is that, did I get that right?
	More complicated, for sure.
	More complicated than compromised.
	There are certain things where I think there's been a compromise, but they aren't things that are directly tied to the news reports of these places themselves.
	It has more to do with something called native advertising or branded advertising.
	So talk about what that is in case people don't know.
	What that is is advertising that very closely mimics the publication or video that the advertising is appearing next to.
	It may be advertising like in the New York Times or the Washington Post that has a byline and Yeah, and the quality is very good.
	It's just, and it is identified at the Times, they call them paid posts.
	I had wanted, when this was under discussion at the Times, and I didn't want to do any native advertising, but that was going to be a battle.
	Wow, you're right, there it is.
	I wanted it.
	You know, the little label to say ad or advertising.
	It's called paid posts.
	And so what bothers me about that is, you know, there has been no scandal about these ads so far.
	I worried there might be.
	But...
	But it is something that could sow confusion in the minds of an audience or readers.
	And, you know, they're the people I care most about.
	That's true of the mistakes I've made.
	I mean, it's my readers who I really owe and I'm sorry to.
	Hmm.
	Yes.
	So that's why she got fired right there.
	So do you think these $700 million is just subscriptions, or does that include native advertising?
	Oh, of course it includes lots of native.
	It's got to.
	All advertising and native.
	Yeah, but they make it sound like, because I read the news about this, they make it sound like, ha ha, we've got digital subscribers, baby.
	This is who we're making bank.
	We've cracked the nut.
	We know what's going on.
	But that money is also coming from native ads.
	You want to read an article in the New York Times and you run out of your, get your four of a limit, you get free four a month and then four free a month.
	Right.
	You go to a private browser.
	Just click on private browser on your browser and then put the URL in there and you'll be able to read it fine.
	There's also all kinds of, I think even Safari will do this.
	You can say, oh yeah, I just want an easy to read screen version and it will actually bypass the paywall in many cases.
	It does that for WAPO. Okay, so let's listen to the two ISOs I've got.
	The first one is...
	Well, before we go to the ISOs, let me remind everybody of Vivian Schiller, since we're talking about advertising and native advertising.
	When she was still the boss of NPR, here's what she said.
	Okay, moving on to money.
	How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
	And what about foundation grants?
	Two different stories.
	Underwriting is down.
	It's down for everybody.
	I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
	Oh, we'll call it advertising, if you don't mind, Vivian, because that's what it is.
	That's your PBS. So, okay, we've got two stories.
	Jill Rakeover.
	To Rakeover.
	Wow, I remember that in the piece.
	It sounded just like it.
	All right.
	You have another ISO? Yeah, this one's under Abramson.
	This is Abramson.
	Abramson, you just play this one, you'll crack up.
	Sorry, my voice is getting a little froggy.
	No kidding!
	I'm sorry.
	I like the other one better.
	Well, the other one is probably funnier.
	The rakeover.
	Yeah, this is a dynamite for end of show ISO.
	To rake over.
	Good job, John.
	Good job.
	You did get up early this morning to do some work.
	I appreciate it.
	Oh, man.
	You know, that whole segment would have been half as long if it wasn't for the vocal fry.
	Actually, it would have been half as long.
	Unbelievable.
	Hey, we had the big Samsung Galaxy S10 5G introduction the other day.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	You want to hear a little bit of what this 5G is going to bring us?
	How fantastic this is going to be?
	Are you excited?
	Are you pumped?
	Are you ready for 5G? 5G? Are you ready?
	I'm getting tinnitus already.
	We've talked a lot today about the future.
	A future where our smartphones are more than just smartphones.
	By the way, this introduction of Samsung, it was more flashy than I've ever seen from Apple.
	They had somehow the whole state, it was huge.
	The whole stage, the sides of the stage, the floor, the back, everything was one giant screen, which I guess Samsung knows how to do.
	Let's stop for a second.
	Apple has kind of frozen in time.
	Yes.
	And I won't even say it's the last of the Steve Jobs presentations, but if the presentation's done in the 90s, late 80s and 90s, it's pretty far as Apple ever went.
	And everything since then has been derivative.
	It's the same, you know, the black turtleneck.
	You come walking out.
	You bring a couple of slobs out to talk about something or other.
	It's just – it's dated.
	It's very dated.
	Yeah.
	Well, this presentation is also dated in that way, particularly because it's the big fanfare.
	It's all of the flashy stuff.
	It's the screen on the stage.
	But then the guy who's presenting is just some num-knuck VP. He has no real stage presence.
	But it doesn't matter because it's 5G. It's going to change the world.
	A future led by a generation that expects more from their technology.
	They expect more from their technology.
	A future where all our devices, including the ones we wear, are seamlessly connected.
	Oh yes.
	But to make that future possible, we need one more essential element.
	What could that be?
	A next generation mobile network.
	That network and the key to our connected future is 5G. Woo!
	Woohoo!
	Now, back in the day, first-generation networks basically let us make phone calls without the cords.
	Second-generation networks introduced mobile data, and that ushered in an era of texting.
	It changed the way we communicate.
	3G made connecting to the internet on the go a reality.
	It made mobile email and web browsing the new norm.
	And over the last decade, 4G paved the way for a new app economy, the rise of social media and streaming music and video.
	Oh, I can't wait.
	What will 5G bring us?
	My goodness, it must be.
	It's going to be mind-blowing.
	Each network evolution has been accompanied by a mobile revolution.
	And 5G represents our biggest step forward yet.
	First off, it'll be faster than any network we've ever seen.
	Oh, faster!
	John, it'll be faster!
	What can that possibly mean?
	Roughly 20 times faster than 4G. Second, it'll be capable of just a millisecond of latency, which is the amount of time between an action and a reaction.
	Well, this sounds like I need to have it.
	And that opens the door for some incredible new possibilities.
	Oh my god, what can we do with this?
	Like remote surgery, cloud gaming, and autonomous driving.
	Well, that's the future right there, everybody.
	I need one immediately.
	Cloud gaming, autonomous vehicles, and remote surgery.
	Maybe it should be in the other order.
	It's cloud gaming, autonomous vehicles, and then you'll need some remote surgery after all of that kills you.
	And third, it can bring on as many as 1 million devices per square kilometer.
	That's 10 times more than what's possible today.
	Soon, network congestion will be a thing of the past.
	A network congestion?
	Well, I thought net neutrality solved that already.
	It'll be a thing of the past.
	That's ten times more than what's possible today.
	Soon, network congestion will be a thing of the past.
	5G will change everything.
	It'll enable us to connect and communicate in entirely new ways.
	He doesn't really say how, but they keep promising.
	It'll empower creators and innovators to bring to life ideas we never thought possible.
	Oh, John, just imagine what you and I could do if only we had more speed and more...
	less...
	Something?
	Congestion.
	Congestion.
	Take a pill.
	You and I will be able to do things we never envisioned before with our show.
	And it's true.
	It won't happen overnight.
	Oh.
	It'll be step by step.
	Hold on a second.
	I know.
	Did anybody yell that...
	No.
	Why did he say, yes, it's true?
	Who's he responding to?
	Very good catch.
	Some imaginary person?
	No, he's responding to those douchebags on no agenda who are playing his clip that's interactive.
	This is what you can do with 5G. You can respond to clips in real time.
	Everything.
	It'll enable us to connect and communicate in entirely new ways.
	It'll empower creators and innovators to bring to life ideas we never thought possible.
	And it's true.
	It won't happen overnight.
	It'll be step by step.
	Inch by inch.
	Slowly I turn.
	...has been laying the groundwork for 5G for decades.
	And Samsung, we've helped lead the way.
	All right.
	What are you talking about decades?
	Decades meaning more than one.
	So two decades.
	20 years ago, they were...
	Doing 5G? Well, this is a product launch, so he's totally full of crap, but 5G is the hip term that everyone's talking about.
	So hip, in fact, that CBS was able to grab the founder of Huawei.
	Yes, we continue with the guy whose name we can't pronounce, with more incredibly innovating information about 5G and the 5G networks.
	And in this CBS This Morning piece, they went all out.
	5G is the latest high-speed mobile innovation, promising to multiply wireless Internet speeds and increase coverage.
	This is 5G.
	Now we are rolling out 5G and soon we'll welcome 6G. I got a lot of grief from people for us laughing about Trump saying 5G, 6G. Listen, yes, there will be 6G and there will be 7G, but this is bullshit.
	5G isn't really even a thing yet.
	We haven't really agreed in the entire industry as to what that exactly is going to be, so it's easy to say 6G. But it doesn't mean anything.
	5G and soon will welcome 6G. And in the future, I said there will be new equipment that is suitable for the United States.
	But U.S. intelligence agencies are concerned about Huawei's 5G growth.
	Former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell.
	Now, I want you to listen very closely to what Mike Morell says.
	So he's trying to tell us that the danger of a 5G network rolled out on Huawei machinery would be very dangerous to our national security.
	But what he says is a little more egregious.
	So he doesn't say the Chinese.
	No, he's talking about himself or his former agency.
	He's admitting it right there.
	You know, 5G, we can spy easier on you.
	Yeah.
	That's exactly what he's saying.
	You connect more devices, you create more platforms from which an intelligence service can spy from.
	The Trump administration has warned its allies that it may reconsider its military relationships with countries that use Huawei.
	I hadn't heard this, actually.
	Yeah.
	So, like, he's tying 5G Huawei machines to NATO or something?
	Like, if you use Huawei, then we won't protect you?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Nice.
	If our allies grow dependent on the East.
	Do you view that as a threat?
	First of all, I would like to thank them because they are great figures.
	5G was not known by common people, but now these great figures are all talking about 5G, and we're becoming more influential in getting more contracts.
	I sense a little bit of sarcasm there.
	Oh, please tell them.
	I'm actually thanking them for promoting us.
	They've been regarding 5G as the technology at the same level of some other military equipment.
	5G is not an atomic bomb.
	Despite warnings from the Trump administration, some of our European allies, including Germany and the UK, are reportedly considering allowing Huawei to build their high-speed infrastructure.
	For Ren, despite all the criticism from the administration, he knows his company's future in America is in the president's hands.
	You speak very highly of President Trump, yet he is likely to issue an executive order banning your company from doing any business in the United States.
	How do you square the two?
	Well, we have never had many sales in the United States, but we didn't give up our efforts in this country.
	Hmm.
	Guys, okay.
	I mean, I like his attitude about it.
	It's like, I don't care.
	But as far as I know, everyone in Europe is going with Huawei.
	They're not backing down.
	Germany's not backing down.
	That's because it's cheaper.
	Yeah.
	A lot.
	What I did find quite humorous was, after coming out of this package, Gail, there on CBS this morning...
	Do you recall the Huawei founder's name again we talked about at the last show?
	No.
	What was your take on Mr.
	Huawei?
	Because he seemed to have...
	Mr.
	Huawei.
	And no one blinked an eye.
	It's like, okay.
	Mr.
	Huawei.
	That's almost kind of racist.
	I'm just saying.
	Well, then she's the racist.
	There you go.
	Um...
	I don't get the appeal, for example.
	I think Morrell's, you know, when he says it just gives you more ways to spy on it.
	You mentioned this.
	You put your little pie hole up and then you walk past the nest thing and then start sending signals.
	He just walked past me.
	Yes.
	We've got him located.
	He's in the bedroom now.
	Yeah.
	Why does anybody...
	I mean...
	I don't get it.
	Why does anybody think that this is a good idea to have your house so wired?
	And I've written about this where I believe the great hacks of the future are going to be somebody who finds somebody with a completely automated house, turning their lights on and off, turning the heat up to 90, and then opening and closing and opening and closing, perpetually opening and closing the garage door.
	That's already happening.
	Yeah, well, I mean, this is what you do.
	It seems to me, this would be the target.
	If I was one of those kids, bored, bored high schooler that knew how to do all this stuff, and, you know, I would be doing, that's what I'd be doing.
	Well, I talked to a lot of the kids at the...
	Why hacking?
	I talked to a lot of the kids at the wedding that we were at, because we were definitely the old fogies in the room.
	These kids don't care.
	They don't care.
	They just don't care.
	They don't care what it is.
	They don't care about the spine.
	They don't care about the access.
	They don't care.
	And it doesn't matter what you say.
	It's a shrug, like, eh, eh, whatever.
	Yeah, I get the same thing from my older millennials.
	Yeah, and it's, well...
	It's alright kids, we'll be here when you're really down.
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	Oh, by the way, just before we go into the next segment, I want to talk about credit cards that they haven't stolen.
	This still works as far as I know.
	I was told this at a lecture I heard from the then CEO of American Express.
	And people can try it.
	And the trick is if you want to get your card pulled out of the blue, you buy two tanks of gas.
	In other words, you buy a tank full of gas and another tank full of gas.
	And then aren't you supposed to buy sneakers?
	Then you go buy sneakers.
	It's like, okay, done.
	All done.
	Your card will get pulled instantly because it's believed that a lot of kids who...
	Who steal a credit card, the first thing they do is fill up their car, and then they fill up their buddy's car, and then they go get some expensive sneakers at Foot Locker.
	Well, what they did on my card is the first thing, so I get text messages immediately, and it says, oh, Fraud alert.
	You have to text yes or no.
	Did you buy something from AM Depot for $18?
	I'm like, I don't know.
	Did I buy anything online?
	So I go looking.
	Ammunition Depot.
	I'm like, no, I probably.
	But I actually said no just to make sure.
	I'm like, $18?
	Because I know what happens.
	The minute you say yes, your card is frozen.
	They stop it and you've got to go through the whole rigmarole.
	So I'm like, no, it's okay.
	Then it's, oh, did you buy $150 worth of makeup from L'Oreal?
	I'm like, okay, no, this is not me.
	And when I'm on the phone with the fraud detection lady, she says, oh, there's like five charges coming in.
	She's rolling in one after another.
	So what they do is they test the card, so that $18 from the online AM Depot, that was actually refunded, which tells them that the AM Depot people may be complicit in the scam.
	It's like a whole bunch of stuff going on with that.
	But anyway, cash for Adam here.
	He's out of control.
	And I'm lucky because, you know, in some places these days, you can't even pay with cash anymore.
	And I think we've been following the legislation that has been going on regarding this, and it looks like some states actually want to outlaw card-only businesses.
	There's a lot of restaurants and other businesses that want to go cashless.
	John Longstreet is the president and CEO of the Pennsylvania Restaurant and Lodging Association.
	Do you see an upside to cashless?
	Absolutely, because places that handle cash are less safe than those that don't have cash on hand.
	Everything is reported directly into the accounting system.
	Taxes are paid, whereas in a cash society, taxes aren't always paid.
	What he doesn't say is that the most important...
	Wait, wait, stop.
	In other words, what he's talking about is skimming or money laundering.
	How does that make you less safe?
	He says it's about safety.
	And then he says you don't pay your taxes.
	Yeah, but the question is safety of who?
	He's talking about the store owners that they're safe from their employees messing up, millennials can't count, stealing money, cash disappearing.
	That's what he's saying.
	It's not about you, the consumer.
	It's about the business owner.
	And consumers are getting used to it, too, as well.
	See?
	And now he talks about consumers.
	No, it's about the retail owner.
	That's for their safety.
	Screw the consumer.
	And they're asking for it.
	Cash is not accepted at Bluestone Lane Coffee.
	They're not asking for it.
	Who's asking for it?
	Who's asking for what?
	He says.
	He says the consumers are asking for it.
	We consumers don't want cash.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I really believe that to be true.
	Yes.
	Does that include you?
	No, but I'm not...
	It doesn't include me?
	Yeah, but it's the majority of the same people who don't care about privacy get very antsy when they're standing behind you and you pay cash and someone has to make change and they're like, Henry, I've just got to go faster.
	Can't you just swipe it?
	It's so much easier for everybody to move the line along.
	...used to it too as well and they're asking for it.
	Cash is not accepted at Bluestone Lane Coffee and at Sweetgreen, the salad chain.
	Together, they have six stores in Philadelphia.
	Nationwide, Dos Toros, Dig In, and Tender Greens now refuse paper money.
	Reportedly, Milk Bar, Starbucks, Amazon, Walmart, and Shake Shack have experimented with cashless stores recently.
	And that trend worries Philadelphia Councilman Bill Greenlee.
	I'll go in and get a cup of coffee.
	I can get it because I have a credit card.
	But the person behind me that doesn't have a credit card is told they can't get a cup of coffee.
	There's something that doesn't seem right about that.
	According to the federal government, more than 14 million Americans don't have bank accounts.
	That makes getting credit cards difficult.
	A recent survey by the Pew Research Center found that 34% of black people, 17% of Hispanics, and 29% of people earning less than $30,000 rely on cash.
	This is the part that I like the most.
	Any store that is going cashless is racist.
	And they need to be told that they are racist.
	Because you don't hear a single politician about this, now do you?
	That it's racist.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	Yeah.
	Racist.
	For all or just about all of their purchases.
	If it's not discrimination, it's elitism.
	I think government does have a place to protect people from...
	Not being treated fairly.
	Councilman Greenlee has introduced a bill that will fine businesses in Philadelphia up to $2,000 if they don't accept cash.
	Similar laws have been proposed in New York City, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. A statewide ban on cashless stores is awaiting the governor's signature in New Jersey.
	And Massachusetts has required retailers to accept cash since 1978.
	There you go.
	Well, good.
	How about a Venezuela update?
	I have one, and I have the one from Saturday.
	Alright, let's go.
	The National Guard tear gasped protesters from both Venezuela and Colombia who tried to reach bridges between the two countries.
	The clashes happened in the bordering cities of Ureña in Venezuela and Cucuta in Colombia.
	On the Colombian side of the bridges, opposition protesters tried to escort trucks with emergency food and medical aid into Venezuela using what leaders call a humanitarian avalanche.
	On the Venezuelan side of the border, the Venezuelan National Guard injured more than two dozen people as protesters set fire to buses.
	Earlier, opposition leader Juan Guaido appeared in Cucuta with the presidents of Colombia and Paraguay and called on troops and supporters of Maduro to allow the aid into Venezuela.
	The New York Times' Andes bureau chief, Nicholas Casey, joins us now from Cucuta, Colombia via Skype.
	So basically the opposition's been trying to get food past Nicolas Maduro's blockade at the borders, and they haven't been able to.
	They've amassed hundreds of people on some of the bridges.
	It looks like there's been thousands.
	But Maduro has been pretty strict about not letting the full number of aid shipments get in.
	You know, Nicolas Maduro this afternoon severed basically all diplomatic and political ties with Colombia.
	He's saying, look, this is a staging ground for violence against Venezuelans.
	And this is huge because Colombia and Venezuela have been at loggerheads many times before.
	They've even had troops on their borders during Hugo Chavez's time.
	And for Maduro to come out and withdraw all the diplomats, severing ties to the country right next to you is a big deal.
	Now, from what I understand, at least I got that from the Intercepted podcast with Jeremy Scahill, is that bridge they say Maduro is keeping blocked off, that that bridge has never been open?
	And there's another bridge a couple of miles south or north that is open for business, but for some reason they're kind of staging this protest at this bridge that has never actually been functionally working?
	Well, to be honest about it, I think that the New York Times reporter who was there, that was given the last part of that report on PBS, would have mentioned that if, you know, maybe they tried that earlier, or maybe it was...
	Who knows, but I don't believe...
	Oh, well, it's definitely...
	Skyhill's part of that whole group that thinks this whole thing is a, you know...
	Yeah, is a coup.
	Is a scam.
	Well...
	But it is a coup.
	Well, normally, normally when you want to do something like this, when you need to distract and get this going, who do you call?
	Clooney.
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction called Clooney.
	Clooney.
	I'm sad to report that this jingle will not be played very often in the future.
	It seems like Clooney is out, but we have a new guy in.
	None other than Richard Branson.
	What we hope is to draw attention to what's going on in Venezuela, to get much needed relief supplies into Venezuela.
	And we're hoping that this wonderful, happy, free concert Will result in the soldiers on this bridge opening the bridge and hopefully tomorrow allowing supplies into the country.
	So Richard Branson has called in to put on a free concert at the border in Colombia.
	Yeah, I heard this.
	This is an interesting strategy.
	It's going to be streamed live.
	Hey man, we made it work for Live Aid.
	We can probably do it again.
	Where's Bob?
	Where's Bob Geldof?
	It's him.
	Well, of course, the guy behind this is the neocon supreme in the White House.
	Still very confused what he's doing there.
	Walrus face John Bolton.
	We're in conversation with major American companies now that are either in Venezuela or in the case of Citgo here in the United States.
	I think we're trying to get to the same end result here.
	You know, Venezuela is one of the three countries I call the Troika of Tyranny.
	It'll make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.
	There you go.
	Look at what he's getting out of this.
	He's not, well...
	You see what happened.
	It's like he's not mentioned in any sex human trafficking massage parlor schemes.
	We do have the human trafficking things picking up again with Julie Brown from the Miami Herald talking about the Epstein thing.
	Well, also the craft guy getting busted.
	Well, let's play the craft busted thing because I think this is funnier.
	I think there's something interesting happening here.
	Back in this country, police in Jupiter, Florida, are charging the owner of the New England Patriots football team, Robert Kraft, with soliciting prostitution.
	They say that he was captured on camera at an illicit massage parlor as part of a crackdown on sex trafficking.
	The charge is a misdemeanor.
	The 77-year-old Kraft denied any wrongdoing today.
	The Chargers are misdemeanor.
	Why are they making such a national case out of it?
	I'll tell you why.
	First of all, it's Kraft.
	He's buddies with Trump.
	They also hate him in Florida because they keep beating Miami Dolphins.
	And this is very close to Mar-a-Lago.
	We have the Epstein thing bubbling under.
	People are positioning that they can't come out and say anything just yet.
	But this human trafficking thing is what is getting almost ignored because of some guy there getting a handjob from a massage parlor worker.
	What I think is interesting is these are all Chinese run.
	Chinese-operated, the massage therapists are Chinese.
	I mean, this is a huge network, in my opinion.
	You might be right.
	You might be right.
	And all that's lacking on the outside of these massage places is happy ending guaranteed.
	Otherwise, it's being advertised almost on the front door.
	And they make a big deal out of this guy, but how about what's actually happening?
	The Chinese are taking...
	By the way, there's Chinese all over Des Moines.
	There's a Chinese pizzeria.
	Oh, God.
	Best price.
	Best price.
	We went there yesterday.
	It was pretty interesting.
	You had a pizza?
	Yeah, it's complete Chinese motif.
	And they got three of them in Iowa.
	It's called Fong's Pizza.
	Yeah.
	Phong's Pizza?
	Phong's Pizza.
	You should have taken some photos.
	We'll take one.
	It's right around the corner.
	How's the pizza?
	The pizza was pretty good.
	We just had, luckily on the menu, just a regular kind of pizza.
	But you can get all kinds of crazy stuff on your pizza.
	And we took a few Ubers, and I'm asking...
	Chow Fun Pizza?
	What's that?
	Chow Fun Pizza.
	Chow Fun?
	No, I don't know.
	Is this a joke I'm missing?
	Chow Fun?
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	No.
	Well, let's catch up with Epstein then.
	We got to Julie Brown on PBS. She's the one who wrote the article in the Miami Herald.
	She brought it back to the fore and they asked her about why she did it and all the rest.
	And you have to wonder because there's another thing going on in Florida.
	It boggles the mind, though, why it took so long to come to light.
	So just start there.
	Tell us, how did you first learn about this story?
	Why did you start to dig at it the way you did?
	Well, Well, you know, the pieces of this story, the outline of this story, had been known for many, many years.
	A lot of journalists had written about this deal, sort of scratching their heads about how could something like this happen.
	And when Alexander Acosta, the Miami U.S. attorney in Miami, was nominated by President Trump last year as Labor Secretary, or in 2017, rather, as Labor Secretary, I sort of wanted to hear what he was going to say when he would be asked about this case, and I was kind of astonished that he wasn't asked much about it at all, and the answers that he did give really weren't responsive to the questions he was asked.
	And so I thought, you know, it's been a long time.
	This was before the Me Too movement.
	But I kept thinking, I wonder what these victims, these girls at the time, they were 13, 14, 15, now in their late 20s and 30s, are thinking about the fact that he has advanced so far in his career after, in essence, in their minds, betraying them.
	So I set about trying to find out who these victims were.
	And eventually convinced just a handful of them, quite frankly, to go public.
	But I spoke to many more than a handful of them.
	And the details that they share in those interviews with you are just so incredible.
	Jaw-dropping.
	And the consistencies across so many of their stories.
	I want to share actually just a quick piece of one interview from one of the women you interviewed.
	Her name is Virginia Roberts.
	And here's what she told you used to happen at Epstein's house.
	Okay.
	It stopped there.
	Yeah, there's a reason I wanted to stop there, and I can't remember what that reason was.
	Well, let me take it from here for a second.
	What I think this is about, and we've been, you know, the Lolita Express and Epstein and how the judges, you know, let Epstein off with a very, very light sentence for effectively being a pedophile, effectively.
	I don't know if he actually had to agree to that.
	This is all about Trump.
	They desperately, desperately, desperately want to take down Trump, even if it means they have to take down Bill Clinton, possibly Hillary Clinton.
	And I think the one thing in the mix is the constitutional lawyer.
	Who was also accused of being involved in this Epstein child sex scandal.
	Dershowitz.
	And I think they're afraid because Dershowitz is threatening continuously.
	Whenever he's on television, if they let him on television, he's saying, go ahead, please get some stuff going because I will sue all of you.
	But it's all happening around this one area.
	It's all Mar-a-Lago.
	It's all about Trump.
	They want to nail this.
	I don't think they can.
	He may actually not be complicit, although evidence suggests otherwise, flight logs, etc.
	I think that's what this is about.
	I'm not going to say it's not.
	It's all happening in Florida, and I think the Kraft thing is part of it.
	But let's listen to what one of the women say, and this is what brings more questions than answers, as far as I'm concerned.
	With sexual abuse and intercourse, and then a pat on the back.
	You've done a really good job.
	Like, you know, thank you very much, and here's $200.
	You know, before you know it, I'm being lent out to politicians and to academics and to people that, royalty, and people that you just, you would never think, like, how did you get into that position of power in the first place if you're this disgusting, evil, decrepit person on the inside?
	Julie, women like Virginia lived for over a decade knowing that the U.S. Attorney, Alex Acosta in this case, declined to prosecute the man who abused them.
	When you first approached them, were they willing to talk to you?
	No, that was probably the hardest part, trying to convince them to trust me because, as I mentioned, there has been a lot written about the case.
	They have never really spoken publicly because, quite frankly, they felt that their story really had never been told.
	So part of what I did was I did some homework on it.
	I interviewed some sexual assault survivors and some counselors to try to prepare me, not To interview them in such a way as to get to the root of their trauma without re-traumatizing them, which was a delicate balance.
	They started writing this a couple months ago.
	Has she done extra stuff that we haven't read before?
	Are there any new revelations?
	No, I don't think so.
	I think it's just recycling.
	It's recycling, right?
	Yes, the way I'm looking at it.
	Well, then there's a reason for it.
	A couple of things that came to mind.
	One is that she says there's a lot of royalty.
	Yes, the prince from Monaco, I believe.
	The bald guy.
	Yeah, I think some Brits.
	Yeah.
	And business guys and politicians.
	Two things.
	One, she should name names.
	And I don't know why that hasn't happened.
	And if she doesn't name names, I mean, she should name names for the one sole reason not to get killed because she's holding these names back.
	Seems to me.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think these women have their lives at risk if they don't name names and get it out of the system and say, hey, you can't stop me now because I already did it.
	That kind of thing.
	I don't know what the logic is.
	Well, but in the articles I've read, you know, the Monaco Prince Albert, I guess it was Albert.
	I think it was Albert.
	And there's continuous Dershowitz stories.
	And these now women are saying that these are the guys that they serviced.
	So, I don't know.
	I still think it's all about Trump.
	They just want to get it down to Trump.
	It's got to be.
	It's got to be.
	They got to get rid of this guy for some reason.
	I'd like to know what is the real reason.
	Is he a known money launderer?
	I mean, which is a possibility since he's a real estate guy and it's a money laundering mechanism that is pretty hard to do anything about.
	I don't know.
	Um...
	Or you could just go all the way with these, which I think is total bullshit, but play Trump as the Russian asset clip with Clapper.
	I must have missed this during my travels.
	Do you agree with Andrew McKay that it's possible that the President of the United States, the President, is a Russian asset?
	Well, I completely agree with the way Andy characterized it, you know, that it is a possibility.
	And I would add to that, caveat that whether winning or unwitting.
	And that is a really painful thing.
	Kim, hold on.
	This is his favorite word, witting or unwitting.
	I think it was wittingly.
	When he was asked if the NSA spied on the American people, his answers were, no, not wittingly.
	What is this wittingly word he likes to use?
	What does wittingly actually mean?
	It means knowingly.
	Or unknowingly.
	In other words, he knows he is, or he doesn't know he is, but he is.
	Well, I find it an odd word.
	Whether witting or unwitting.
	And that is a really painful thing to say, but I believe the FBI was institutionally obligated to do what it did, and that is to investigate and to initiate an investigation.
	And if you go back, you know, the long view here of the behavior of Of candidate Trump and then President Trump and his deference to the Russians and specifically, particularly his personal deference to Putin and his exhortation about the emails in July of 16.
	And then all these developments culminating in the firing of Director Comey, which he acknowledged was because of the Russian investigation.
	Yeah, I do agree.
	As amazing and stunning and depressing as that is.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's nothing.
	Did you hear Michael Steele, his accusation against the president?
	No, I haven't.
	Oh, this is fantastic.
	We had a...
	I don't know if it was a six-week cycle, and we don't really know exactly all the details other than the FBI bravely stopped a white nationalist from killing news people and celebrities, and he had an arsenal of weapons.
	Oh, did he now?
	Yes.
	He had an arsenal of weapons, and he had a spreadsheet.
	Oh, a spreadsheet?
	We've not seen any spreadsheet.
	We've seen some guns, which looks like, honestly, any one of our no-agenda producers in the Midwest would probably have this arsenal.
	It's not all that huge, but okay.
	The guy had some guns, and immediately...
	Hold on.
	The giveaway is where they're all different guns.
	Because there are gun collectors out there.
	You go out shooting with them.
	That's a good question.
	These people would attract a lot of friends because it's fun to go shoot with a gun collector.
	They got all these different kinds of guns.
	Well, that's a good question.
	Some guy's got this and that and this and that.
	He's got a bunch of different guns.
	What's the point?
	It's not an arsenal for shooting anybody.
	It's just a collection of guns he likes to shoot.
	Well, so I don't know.
	All we know is that the story was we got this guy.
	Luckily, we got him way before he was able to act out on his spreadsheet.
	And that was the story.
	Now, you didn't even hear about this, did you?
	No.
	But of course, what is the problem here is when you have a white nationalist who apparently was going to kill people, as president, you immediately, like within 10 minutes, have to denounce this.
	If you don't denounce it...
	Well, then you know what you are, don't you?
	You're a horrible white nationalist yourself.
	Michael Steele was the guy in charge of the Republican National Committee, and now he's on MSNBC as a commentator.
	Listen to what he said about the president.
	He's the black guy, right?
	Yeah, he's the black guy.
	Listen to what he said about the president not responding to this story, which you didn't even hear about.
	So why would we be surprised that a self-proclaimed nationalist would not speak out against a self-proclaimed white nationalist?
	Why are we acting like this is a space that Donald Trump is going to go in on behalf of the American ideal?
	No, he's not.
	And these are his people.
	And he's not going to thank law enforcement because he's probably not happy about what law enforcement did.
	Is that where we are?
	That's where we are.
	So just so you know, he's probably not happy that law enforcement stopped this guy, this white nationalist, from killing people.
	So the president is not happy about that.
	Just let that sink in for a second.
	And then realize what Nicole Wallace says.
	Law enforcement did.
	Is that where we are?
	That's where we are.
	I mean, I call the space where we are where we are.
	I mean, I'm just not going to try to dress up and be all, you know, pie in the sky.
	And hopeful that, oh, maybe in the next incident, Donald Trump will actually get it right.
	That he will have matured in his presidency enough to act like a president.
	But that's a brave thing to say.
	Let me just draw you out on that.
	That's so brave of you to say.
	He carried out his attacks?
	What do you think the president would have done?
	Well, that's the next test in all of this.
	That's a very good question and it's absolutely the next test.
	Because we don't, we can sit here and honestly say we would hope that there would be the appropriate level of outrage and pushback and all hands on deck, to your point, about the Justice Department and those responding.
	But here we sit and we have a little question mark over, you know, a little thought bubble as a question mark.
	I don't know what he would do.
	And that's the sad spot about all of this.
	The president is not happy with law enforcement for stopping a white nationalist from killing people.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Wow.
	Thank you, Michael Steele.
	I feel so much safer now.
	I don't know what Michael Steele does anymore.
	He's a commentator on MSNBC. That's what he does.
	I guess.
	That's what he does.
	Just as a fun little joke, since no one else will do it, the best podcast in the universe might as well.
	I'm sure that tonight, during the Oscars, there will be some references to Jussie Smollett, I have a feeling.
	I hope not.
	You kind of gotta expect it, though.
	I just want to remind you, when it turned out that, as far as I haven't seen any more updates, that Jussie Smollett orchestrated this whole hoax by himself, which is egregious.
	Here's a shorter version of what we played on the previous show, what Don Lamont, the overnight sensation, had to say, because, of course, he doesn't really know Jussie.
	He was on the set, and he accepted the compliments from Jussie about how great Don is.
	But, you know, he's...
	Really, I don't really.
	It's not really a friend of mine.
	I don't really know him.
	I know him.
	Not best friends, but I do know him.
	So I spoke to him while he was at the hospital.
	His friend who was there texted me in the middle of the night and said, hey, this happened to Jussie.
	I called a friend.
	The friend happened to be there.
	And Jussie said, oh, Jussie's here.
	Here's the phone.
	So he told me in his own words what he said happened.
	But I've also got to tell you, to be quite honest, that a lot of people...
	Including people in the community.
	Which would mean Don himself.
	People of color and gay people had questions about this from the very beginning.
	So we heard his skepticism and like, you know, Don doesn't really know Jussie, but people in the community are just very skeptical.
	Let's go back a week before that, when Don Lemon was with Jada Pinkett Smith, the wife of Will Smith, and she has a show called The Red Table Talk, which is where you have to be real.
	You can sit at the red table, but you've got to be real.
	You've got to be real.
	You've got to be honest about your relationship.
	And this was when we only knew that Jussie had been attacked by two white MAGA hat, MAGA country's Trump supporters.
	And this is how Don talked about Jussie then.
	When you first heard about the incident with Jesse, what was your initial reaction?
	My initial reaction was sadness.
	Wait, I thought it was skepticism.
	I must be wrong.
	I wasn't shocked.
	I didn't like that it happened to him.
	I called him.
	Because we have mutual friends.
	I got the friend on the phone.
	The friend talked to me for a minute.
	He goes, Jesse's here.
	I'm seeing the doctor.
	And I talked to Jesse for a minute.
	And then he said, I got to go to the doctors here.
	And it just made me sad.
	So every day I say, I know you think I'm annoying.
	I can show you a text.
	I know you think I'm annoying you, but I just want to know that you're doing that you're okay.
	If you need somebody, you can talk to me because there's not a lot of us out there.
	Sometimes he responds, sometimes he doesn't.
	He responds and says, you are not annoying.
	Amazing.
	Well, that's a different story.
	While Don was skeptical and the whole community was skeptical, he kept texting Jussie saying that I'm here for you.
	You're not alone.
	I'm here for you.
	Hey, Lemon.
	Bullshit!
	Terrible.
	Yeah, oh well.
	Well, Bernie finally came out of the...
	Closet?
	And there was a good little rundown on PBS because they brought in Shields and Brooks.
	And actually, Shields actually had very interesting observations about Bernie.
	And is this the...
	Bernie Sanders announced PBS. We have a new entrant.
	Bernie Sanders announced officially this week he's going to run again for president.
	But this time, it's a little different.
	It's a lot different, Judy.
	But the very same people who wrote Bernie Sanders off in 2015 in our profession are writing him off again in 2019.
	Bernie Sanders is cranky.
	Bernie Sanders is not well-groomed.
	Bernie Sanders just connects with voters.
	I mean, in 2015, the summer of 2015, he, on successive nights in Portland, Seattle, and Los Angeles, this is awesome.
	August of 2015 drew crowds of 27,500, 15,000, and 28,000 into arenas.
	I mean, the idea of a Democratic event in Los Angeles is basically dinner at George Clooney's house with Steven Spielberg and Barbara Streisand singing and a few songs.
	But Democrats don't do big events.
	And Bernie connected.
	And I just point out that he raised $135 million in small contributions.
	I mean, he really changed it.
	He raised $50 million more than Donald Trump did.
	Hmm.
	Is he running as a Democrat?
	Is that known yet?
	Well, the Democratic Party has to deal with this Democrat socialism thing, so we don't know.
	And don't they have some kind of rule change I keep reading about that will make it very difficult for Bernie?
	No, he's going to have to be a pure Democrat if he's going to run.
	Hmm.
	But, you know, whether he gets that far or not, but I think his point was well taken, and I never thought about it much, that the Democrats don't draw big crowds, because that wasn't the case with Roosevelt.
	That's true.
	Well, we also never saw a lot of the Bernie big crowds.
	Oh, that was the media, yeah.
	They weren't going to show us anything.
	So, we never found, which would have, you know, who knows what would have happened.
	I have one last clip.
	Okay.
	Which is Walt's talk, the PBS clip, with a kicker.
	Will I veto it?
	100%.
	100%.
	And I don't think it survives a veto.
	We have too many smart people that want border security, so I can't imagine it could survive a veto, but I will veto it, yes.
	Later in a visit to Laredo, Texas, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said there is no national emergency and that Mr.
	Trump created a crisis.
	We will be fighting him on this usurping of power, violating the Constitution of the United States in the Congress, in the courts, and with the American people.
	So this is a path I would not recommend he go down.
	I don't expect him to sign it, but I do expect us to send it.
	Meanwhile, Pentagon officials brief congressional staffers today on how they might implement the president's order.
	Lisa Desjardins spent part of the day of her day at the Pentagon, and she joins me now.
	So, Lisa, what are you learning about when the Pentagon plans to try to implement what the president wants?
	I spoke to the same senior Pentagon officials who briefed Congress.
	They told me this.
	Right now, they are assessing exactly what projects that are needed at the border.
	They're working with the Department of Homeland Security on that.
	They think within weeks they will have that list.
	Then, Judy, to my question about timing, they said they think within months they hope to be ready through an expedited process to begin some construction.
	So, if they're going to take this money and use it to build a border wall, where is it coming from?
	Well, there are two large parts from the Department of Defense.
	One has to deal with how they fight drug trafficking.
	Fill the wall!
	Yep.
	That's right.
	10 U.S. Code 284.
	Yes, we covered this on the show.
	Your No Agenda show nails it again.
	Not to pat myself on the back.
	Even disgusted.
	That's right.
	Alright everybody, we'll do more of that on Thursday.
	And a reminder that Saturday is the big Austin, Texas meetup.
	I want to thank Des Moines, Iowa and all of the surrounding areas and all the producers and dames and knights and barons and dukes and earls who came in.
	It was great to see you all.
	And thanks to Danny Luce, Secret Agent Paul, Tom Starkweather for the end of show mixes.
	Looking forward to being back on Thursday.
	We'll be back in the Cludio.
	Until then, coming to you from, I think we're in FEMA Region 7 here, if I'm not mistaken.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's going to rain some more.
	So much for the drought.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
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	Until Thursday, adios, mofos and such.
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	Thursday.
	Dance.
	Sunday.
	In the morning.
	But, just like the band, they sued us in the 9th Circuit, and we lost, and then we lost in the appellate division.
	But, just like the band, then we sued, and they will We'll be there, and we will possibly get a bad ruling, and then we'll get another bad ruling, and then we'll end up in the Supreme Court, and hopefully we'll get a fair shake, ballot division.
	You even look at, you know, the fact that they sued us in the Ninth Circuit, and then we respected her that's being cast aside.
	You're black.
	You're uneducated.
	New York City's first African-American schools chancellor.
	And there are norms.
	You know, give us an example or two.
	And we're lost in the appellate division circuit, even though it shouldn't be there.
	At every level.
	I don't know.
	Uh, you know, uh...
	And then we'll get another bad ruling.
	And then he sued us in the 9-9 circuit.
	And then we'll get another bad ruling.
	Well, you look at the Eats on every level.
	In the beginning, they could ask for more money.
	I mean, yesterday...
	Marisol Maragi reports...
	McClendon says his parents taught him...
	In the beginning, they could ask for more money.
	We'll have a national emergency.
	You know, in the 9th Circuit, even though it shouldn't be there.
	You're with your little friend.
	You can speak any way you want to speak, all right?
	Emergency, and we will then be sued.
	The minute you get in a spelling bee or even though it shouldn't be there, and we will be sued.
	You know, the fact that this country built the most important decisions.
	Get a bad ruling.
	You're in a job interview.
	Switch it up quick.
	We will possibly get a bad ruling in...
	And if the international here is, you know, if there was enough that we have, but we see the president stop the president because he's a supreme court.
	I'm pleased to use that.
	But at the end of the day, they're backing him.
	You know, they're backing him.
	Come on.
	At the end of the day, John, if someone wants to get anyone, they can get him.
	At the end of the day, it's more important that we have entertainment.
	So, at the end of the day, who's going to pay for the real loan?
	It's going to be taxpayer money.
	At the end of the day, that's going to be up to Valerie Jarrett.
	At the end of the day, isn't that it?
	At the end of the day, all this money is owed to bankers.
	At the end of the day, I think it's good.
	At the end of the day.
	At the end of the day, as Americans, what we always do, is we always say...
	At the end of the day.
	So, at the end of the day, it's not actually the healthcare, it's the...
	At the end of the day.
	At the end of the day, you can't deny I had to put less gas in...
	At the end of the day.
	So, at the end of the day...
	We're all anti-Semites.
	At the end of the day, you get, I think it's 4% starts to run together at the end of the day.
	You kind of forget, right?
	At the end of the day.
	John, you and I are both in the audience business at the end of the day.
	At the end of the day.
	And so at the end of the day, she can say, hey, I told you.
	I told you so.
	At the end of the day, end of the day.
	But I don't say at the end of the day.
	I said it once, I think ever.
	Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem.
	In the morning, Gitmo Nation, we are all charged up to be.
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	From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond.
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