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1105: BOMBSHELL!

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	It's a movie that shouts out to me, don't watch this movie.
	Adam Curry, John C. DeVore.
	It's Sunday, January 20th, 2019.
	This is your award-winning Gipo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1105.
	This is No Agenda.
	Clean, shaven, free of toxic masculinity, and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in downtown Austin, Tejas, in the Cludio.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have no idea what he said either, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Oh, surely you know you have to shave away your toxic masculinity.
	You've seen the ad.
	I was mumbled.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Should we do it over?
	No, it's fine.
	Now that you said it.
	Now that I said it twice.
	All right, what's going on?
	You had something bad happen.
	Yes, I woke up.
	I mean, I turned on the machine.
	Usually that's good, man.
	You wake up.
	At our age, this is a good thing.
	So you turn the machine on and it says, you want to upgrade your Skype?
	Uh-oh.
	I said, no.
	And then it said, well, we're rebooting anyway.
	Well, there's no reboot involved.
	Oh.
	They just kill Skype.
	I said, well, let me go click on this.
	Click, click.
	You want to reboot?
	You want to renew it?
	You want to upgrade?
	Wait a minute.
	Where's the Skype?
	So apparently I can't get Skype to run unless I upgrade.
	This was the threat they made about six months ago.
	Wait a minute.
	You're running Windows 10 though, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	I don't understand what threat they made, but I believe that.
	The threat they made was, hey, you're using an old legacy version of Skype.
	Oh, legacy.
	Knock it off.
	Stop it, you fool.
	Okay.
	Well, it sounds good so far.
	It sounds fine, yeah, but I mean...
	But look at the screen.
	It stinks.
	It's a big, giant blue screen with AC in the middle.
	Yeah, I've got Al Gore with a machete in the middle of my blue screen.
	Yeah, but it's not like a big picture of Al Gore.
	No, it's a little...
	It's a little picture in the middle.
	Are you complaining about the interface?
	The interface is only part of the...
	Yeah, I'm sure the...
	Yeah, I'm complaining about the interface.
	I remember when I had kept my legacy and you were on the new one because you had to be.
	And you're moaning and groaning.
	I don't see this.
	I don't see this.
	I don't see that.
	I'm looking.
	Hey, I see all these things.
	I got the little monitor for the feed and all the...
	How is it working?
	Your jitter monitor.
	I get the jitter.
	No, I got none of that.
	Welcome to the club, pal.
	Welcome to the club where everything is obfuscated.
	You don't need to know.
	Anyway...
	I was thinking about this jitter.
	What does jitter even mean in a digital context?
	Let's not get started on this.
	Because you know what?
	5G will save us all.
	It's going to remove jitter.
	I got a 5G report for later.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah.
	But first...
	I remember during the early days of the CD round, there were some scammers...
	Or I think they were just naive dummies.
	And the CD-ROM was a digital medium, and they sold this little attachment, this little, like a little lead weight you can put on top of the disc after you install it.
	And it would reduce wow and flutter.
	Oh, I remember.
	Not the CD-ROM. This was just the CD. Yeah, that's what I meant, the CD. Yeah, yeah.
	The early audio CDs.
	Yes.
	It would reduce wow and flutter.
	I remember this.
	Yeah.
	What are you talking about?
	Bowen flutters a specific problem with tape mechanisms.
	In 1983, I want to say, or maybe four, I just started Veronica Broadcasting, and we were the new guys on the block, and we were like, hey, there's these CDs.
	And Phillips, of course, was leading in that, and they had, I think there was two CDs.
	It was Mark Knopfler.
	Dire Straits, and what's one other?
	You know, both phonogram acts.
	And we hooked it up to the National Broadcast Network, you know, to the big towers.
	And we started, I don't know, it must have been a Dire Straits track.
	But the dynamics were so large at the time, it actually blew out the transmitters.
	God!
	The whole network was down, the whole country.
	I still have that particular album.
	Brother in Arms.
	Wasn't it Brother in Arms?
	It's actually the first one.
	It's the one that's got the MTV thing in there, where they say the lyrics include it.
	Oh, Money for Nothing?
	Yeah, maybe it was Money for Nothing.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Money for Nothing.
	And when you play it, the first time I had Money for Nothing on any stereo, it's like, because they played I don't know what they did to pump the dynamic range to what it was, but it was enormous.
	It was fantastic, yeah.
	Because it started off with this very low, no sound at all, because there was no surface noise.
	There was no wow and flutter, man.
	Yeah, there was no wow and flutter.
	I think wow and flutter was something from the turntable days as well, wasn't it?
	Well, it was mostly for tape.
	But yeah, I think you can get wow and flutter on a turntable.
	I got wow and flutter right here.
	Yeah, right in the stomach.
	Anyway, this was a fun weekend.
	There was a problem and resolution within two days in between two shows.
	It was the most fascinating thing.
	You know about the BuzzFeed.
	Yes, of course.
	BuzzFeed.
	I have a compilage.
	I have a bunch of BuzzFeed stuff after your compilage.
	Yes, here's a compilage which will start with the breaking report from BuzzFeed and we'll, well, you'll see where it ends.
	Breaking news.
	We're following breaking news on what may be the most damning allegation yet against President Trump.
	That's fueling new talk of impeachment.
	Another night, another bombshell.
	A potentially damaging new report from BuzzFeed.
	This is BuzzFeed reporting.
	Game-changing report.
	BuzzFeed News is reporting the President personally instructed his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to lie to Congress.
	He should be impeached immediately.
	He foresees, I think, impeachment coming.
	This is a completely impeachable offense.
	Impeachment.
	He should be impeached.
	That is impeachable.
	President Trump must either resign or be impeached.
	This was like the Titanic coming at the iceberg.
	Breaking news.
	A spokesperson for the special counsel Robert Mueller's office is disputing BuzzFeed.
	The special counsel has just come out with a statement.
	I want to read it to you.
	Responding to BuzzFeed saying, BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the special counsel's office and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office regarding Michael Cohen's congressional testimony are not accurate.
	And that's where we started to pick apart words to an infinite degree, which was funny.
	And I'm sure you have some examples of that.
	Oh, it's unbelievable.
	I mean, the only guy, the funny thing was, was on PBS NewsHour, they did have...
	Brooks.
	He didn't have shields, wasn't there?
	Some woman from the Wall Street Journal who was more than happy to be...
	She's hoping to God that there's a tape to prove...
	I mean, I don't know why journalists are so biased to the point where they're hoping the guy gets impeached.
	But okay.
	This is the way it goes.
	But Brooks actually said, well, we don't know that it's true and there's only one source.
	And he's actually hemmed and hawed.
	It wasn't like he could have gone even further and said, Well, I want to see some more documentation.
	This is one, BuzzFeed.
	Who's BuzzFeed?
	I mean, some, I think it's a fairly random news gathering operation.
	No, BuzzFeed has always been...
	That promotes cats.
	Well, it's been a click farm type operation, but they're wildly successful.
	I know someone who works there and builds out their new offices, and they're doing very well, but it's not really based on most of their success is not really hard journalism.
	No, it's cat videos.
	It's other stuff.
	It's a typical click and you get 10 ads and you saw the 10 different versions of Meghan Markle's belly.
	It's fun stuff from time to time.
	It's fun stuff from time to time.
	It's not even when Brooks talked, he said, well, you know, BuzzFeed's a real news organization.
	He throws that in.
	This is a guy working for the New York Times that says that.
	I mean, it was too much.
	Actually, I don't want to start with his stuff because it's not the best, but let's play him Talking about this Brooks and some woman R.E. Trump felony.
	President told his former attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.
	This is significant for a couple of reasons.
	One, it's a felony the president allegedly committed while being president, unlike all the previous stuff.
	And then it is a bit of a, you know, he's president of the United States or running for office and he puts the U.S. national interest behind his own interest in getting the Trump Tower built in Moscow.
	And so these are both very serious things.
	David French of National Review pointed out that in Michael Cohen's sentencing agreement months and months ago, this was right out there in the open for all of us, that Cohen's lawyer said he lied to Congress because...
	Person number one, Donald Trump, told him to do it, and he didn't have the strength to resist.
	And so that suggests there's some meat to this.
	BuzzFeed is a real news organization, it should be said.
	And the final thing, the thing that's of interest to me in the BuzzFeed report, you can't tell whether they have written evidence.
	They say there's a trove of documents.
	They say there's a trove of emails and texts.
	Or is there an actual piece of paper with Donald Trump saying lie to Congress?
	That would be pretty explosive if that exists.
	Or a recording.
	Or a recording.
	Lordy, let there be tapes, as somebody said.
	Wow.
	Oh, Lordy, let there be tapes.
	Yeah, there's your Wall Street Journal, a big Republican operation, supposedly.
	Oh, Lordy.
	Oh, Lordy.
	Oh, Lordy, let there be tapes.
	Let there be tapes.
	He's a little bit biased.
	Now, the thing that they rap with, which is...
	My, our thesis about the, what's this really all about?
	And then you listen carefully to this Brooks and some woman impeach or vote moment, and you're going to hear our meme.
	Can I just play something in the interim for just one second?
	I was searching for James Comey saying, Lordy.
	Yeah.
	Listen to this.
	You're big, you're strong.
	I know the Oval Office.
	Took it in.
	And the only thing I could think to say, because I was playing in my mind, because I remember every word he said, I was playing in my mind, what should my response be?
	And that's why I very carefully chose the words.
	And look, I've seen the tweet about tapes.
	Lordy, I hope there are tapes.
	She took it from Comey.
	Oh yeah, I know she took it from Comey.
	I didn't realize that.
	Lordy, I hope they're tapes.
	Okay, now I get it.
	Like, I've heard this phrase before.
	Well, you're going to hear it more from the media.
	So let's listen to the thesis, the basic overriding thesis that's part of this show.
	Is it this one, the second Brooks clip?
	Are we really going to impeach or are we not?
	Where does their emphasis go?
	This is an interesting debate on the left.
	Do we want this guy impeached or do we want to vote him out?
	Which is better for the country?
	I think voting him out would be better for the country, but as the evidence mounts, you really have no choice.
	It's interesting.
	I mean, I know many Democratic members of Congress who believe, as David said, they would be better off running against Donald Trump than against whoever the Republicans would put up in his face.
	But this is, as Jamie Raskin was suggesting, an insult to the very constitutional system.
	So there you have it.
	They want to vote him out.
	They don't want to impeach him because it's a scam.
	Yeah.
	They just want to keep it running for two more years.
	Now, I want to play the overview from PBS with the Jardin woman.
	And then I want to cut to this guy, this congressman, Jamie Raskin, who just is absolutely off the rails.
	And he's an interesting character because...
	Our former economic hitman contact is a buddy of his.
	Oh.
	And we condemned him once before for something else.
	He did this on a dump.
	And you got a note?
	Yeah, I got a note.
	He's a pretty good guy.
	Have we heard from our economic hitman?
	No, he's flown the coop.
	So this is the overview on PBS, and this kind of brings us up to the point where they hit the horn and had to...
	By the way, I should mention, the next day, because I have clips of that too, they were so sheepish about backing off on this.
	Yeah, they were picking apart the entire sentence from Mueller's office.
	Yeah, they were picking that apart and saying, well, BuzzFeed still stands by their story and all the rest of it, when in fact they were...
	Busted for buying into just any old unsourced online bullcrap.
	They had sources say.
	Yeah, sources say.
	We got two guys we know.
	I mean, right away it was very sketchy, but they were so sheepish about all the fuss they made the day before.
	But just one sec.
	I mean, we do remember that BuzzFeed was the first one to publish the Steele dossier, the rancid dossier.
	I mean, I didn't hear a lot of people saying, well, you know, last time they had a bombshell.
	It turned out to be kind of not such a bombshell.
	No, I don't think anyone really said that.
	No, because they want this all to be true.
	Oh, jeez.
	Oh, lordy, please let there be tape so we can end this misery.
	Oh, lordy.
	Alright, what are we going to listen to here?
	We're going to listen to the overview of PBS and the BuzzFeed.
	Oh, wait, that's not it.
	BuzzFeed, Correction, PBS? No, that's the next day.
	BuzzFeed with Lenny Davis.
	BuzzFeed.
	How does it say PBS? Bombshell from BuzzFeed.
	That's the clip.
	Okay, here we go.
	It is a bombshell from BuzzFeed News that has prompted outcries from Capitol Hill.
	It's a bombshell.
	It could be the most damning set of details yet, tying President Trump to an impeachable offense.
	Lisa Desjardins begins with what we know and the response from lawmakers.
	A new, serious friction point between the White House and the Capitol as Democratic lawmakers react to the report that alleges President Trump ordered his attorney, Michael Cohen, to lie to Congress.
	If these facts are true, this is suborning perjury.
	Rhode Island Democrat David Cicilline spoke on CNN. He's on the Judiciary Committee, the committee with jurisdiction over impeachment.
	I think there's no question it's an impeachable offense.
	And it's, again, just one more data point about what was the reason that they were trying so hard to keep this Russia meeting and this Russia relationship so secret.
	The Democratic Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler said in a tweet that directing a subordinate to lie to Congress is a federal crime, and he promised investigations.
	The BuzzFeed report alleges Mr.
	Trump...
	Just a technical question.
	Ordering a subordinate to lie to Congress.
	I mean, I'm sure that's a felony.
	But was he really a subordinate?
	Is a lawyer a subordinate?
	No, ordering anybody to lie to purchase themselves a felony.
	That's brought up later.
	They like to use the word ordering like he's some big boss.
	This guy's attorney.
	Attorneys know what they're doing.
	They're not going to be ordered by their clients.
	What if you say, what if you ask?
	If you say, hey, would you mind lying to Congress?
	Is that also a felony?
	Probably.
	Okay.
	Investigation.
	Not that I'm thinking of trying it anytime soon.
	When are you up for something going on?
	We've got to go talk to Congress about the show?
	Good to have some info in my back pocket.
	The BuzzFeed report alleges Mr.
	Trump personally directed Cohen to lie about plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.
	No other news outlet has confirmed the story.
	It comes after Cohen pleaded guilty in November to lying to congressional intelligence committees about the so-called Moscow project.
	Cohen is now cooperating with federal prosecutors.
	I'm sorry, I've got to stop it again.
	She said, instead of saying we have not been able to independently verify the story, she says something very interesting.
	No other news organizations have verified the story.
	Does that mean that if other news organizations say, yeah, we're in, then it's okay?
	They still don't have to do their own research?
	PBS? That's a very good catch.
	Yes, it's still PBS didn't do jack.
	I mean, that's basically what they're saying.
	Yeah, that's circular reporting, I guess.
	So if they could have said, well, CNN confirms!
	But they didn't have it.
	Hold on, stop it again.
	Doesn't this sound like one of those CIA operations?
	When they drop some bombshell someplace and then they use that as the basis for everybody else saying that this happened?
	Yeah.
	Circular reporting.
	That's the trick.
	Exactly.
	About the so-called Moscow Project.
	Cohen is now cooperating with federal prosecutors.
	BuzzFeed says Cohen was not a source for its story.
	The president's current attorney, Rudy Giuliani, denied the report and in a statement called it categorically false.
	On Fox News, White House Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley questioned BuzzFeed's reporting.
	Absolutely ludicrous that we are giving any type of credence or credibility to a news outlet like BuzzFeed.
	You're saying the President did not tell Michael Cohen to do that?
	I'm telling you right now, this is exactly why the president refuses to give any credence or credibility to news outlets.
	Oh, he didn't deny it!
	Virginia Food Bank today serving furloughed workers.
	The top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner, talked to reporters.
	We don't know whether a new report about Cohen being told to lie by the president is true or not.
	We'll have to ask Mr.
	Cohen that.
	But it sure as heck explains why Michael Cohen lied in earlier testimony to our committee.
	He added the committee is arranging for Cohen to appear again next month.
	So they're all carried in.
	Now I've got to get to the series of clips, which is the basis for my whole report.
	All right, we're ready for it.
	Jamie Raskin.
	What a stooge this guy is.
	For one thing, he looks like he hasn't slept for a month.
	Who is this guy?
	He is this congressman.
	I think he's from New York or somewhere.
	But he's just a hellish looking man.
	And he doesn't know what he's talking about.
	And he's just making shit up.
	I'm just looking at his face.
	He's from Maryland.
	He's kind of like Kramer.
	From Seinfeld.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	He's horrible looking.
	He can be no good if he looks this way.
	Well, there is a basis for thinking that way.
	Oh, okay.
	But I'm not going to get into it.
	But let's just put him on.
	This is the first one is the Jamie Ruskin.
	We know it is true.
	Let's hear now from Capitol Hill.
	Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland is a member of the House Democratic Leadership Team, and he serves on the Judiciary Committee.
	He formerly was a professor of constitutional law.
	Congressman Raskin, thank you very much for joining us.
	You said earlier today that if this is true, it would be an impeachable offense.
	How so?
	Well, we know it's true because, of course, the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton over telling one lie about one sexual affair.
	We know it's true.
	Wait, let's get this straight.
	So he starts off with a non sequitur.
	He says, we know it's true because Bill Clinton was impeached for a sexual affair.
	What has one got to do with the other?
	What has anything got to do with truth?
	So he's off to a bad start by saying, we know it's true, was his first opening salvo.
	We know it's true.
	We know it's true.
	So it's not as questionable here.
	We know it's true.
	Now, I believe, I should have looked to find a clip of this, that Klobuchar, Amy Klobuchar was...
	I had that clip.
	Okay, then I'll shut up and let you go, too.
	No, no.
	Well, what I heard is that she was grilling, who's the new attorney general candidate...
	Yeah, I have that.
	That's in the Democracy...
	I don't have her complete clip, but it's within the Democracy Now clip.
	Yeah, as if she had already heard...
	The point is, she was grilling...
	What's the guy's name?
	Wheeler?
	No, what's his name?
	No, what is his name?
	Yeah.
	That guy.
	The Bush guy.
	Grilling him, saying...
	Here's the rundown.
	She says, hey, if he did this, is that an impeachable offense?
	Right.
	No, is that against the law?
	And he says, yeah, and?
	And then she says, well, and then she almost asks the exact same question.
	If the president asks someone to lie for him to Congress, would that be a felony?
	Yeah, of course, it's Barr.
	William Barr, that's who it is.
	Barr, and he'd also, Ben Barr also says, yeah, but it'd be a felony for anyone.
	So they, it's clear that Klobuchar had this information.
	That's why she was doing it.
	I think that maybe.
	This is before BuzzFeed came out?
	Yeah, it must be.
	Timeline, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, because she's a stooge.
	So I'm just saying that's why the guy like this who's on the inside is like, oh, we know it's true.
	We know.
	We got the briefing, you see.
	We got the BuzzFeed briefing.
	We got our CIA briefing.
	Yeah, whichever one comes first.
	Okay, Jamie Raskin, two.
	This is good.
	One sexual affair.
	And this is about organizing a whole pattern of lies in order to deceive the Congress of the United States about a matter of national security and a matter that goes to the heart of American national sovereignty.
	So lying and obstruction of justice have figured centrally in the impeachments that we've seen in modern times.
	That is, In the Nixon impeachment and, of course, the articles of impeachment brought against Clintons.
	He wasn't impeached.
	He wasn't impeached.
	But our professor of constitutional law seems to think that he was impeached.
	This is one of your favorites.
	I think I'm starting to notice it as a meme.
	They're trying to push into the public consciousness the idea...
	That Nixon was impeached when he wasn't.
	Well, TBH, until we started doing the show and you brought it up years and years ago, I'm pretty sure I thought he had been impeached too.
	That was always kind of in the lexicon, the way I understood it growing up.
	Well, you were duped.
	And I was subsequently saved.
	Yes, by the show.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, he doubles down on the Nixon thing.
	So let's go to clip three.
	The articles of impeachment brought against Clinton.
	But both in the articles that were brought against Nixon and the articles brought against Clinton, obstruction of justice and lying were central.
	So I think everybody views the president's involvement in Lying to Congress and suborning perjury as certainly a statutory felony violation under federal law, but also a major constitutional offense against the rule of law and our Constitution.
	Okay, Judy, jump in and tell them that Nixon wasn't impeached.
	Hey, Judy, Judy, jump in and tell them that Nixon wasn't impeached and let's get this back on track, Judy.
	Let me guess.
	Does clip four pertain to Judy jumping in and saying that?
	No.
	Oh, damn.
	Oh, by the way, these clips are a continuation.
	There's nothing taken out, so I didn't cut Judy out.
	She's right back in it.
	She's so concerned.
	Anyway...
	Play this and then I have a kicker because, again, this is a problem with Judy.
	Play this.
	Law and our Constitution.
	Suborning perjury, meaning telling someone else to lie before the Congress or before a jury.
	But, Congressman, what is it exactly in this new information that you think makes it something that is an impeachable offense?
	What is it exactly?
	Well, let's start with this.
	We don't know whether or not this is true.
	All we have is one news report about what one witness has said.
	Now, obviously, it's a key witness, and Michael Cohen was the president's personal lawyer.
	But what Cohen is saying is that...
	The president urged him and counseled him and essentially conspired with him to lie before Congress.
	And suborning perjury, that is urging and coaching someone to lie in a sworn context, is itself a federal criminal offense.
	It is a felony.
	All right, you heard what he said.
	Now we're talking about the show.
	Does Judy show...
	A mere three or four minutes before this guy, we heard this.
	Now, the clip you're going to play is Overview PBS on BuzzFeed's slander Jardin ISO. BuzzFeed says Cohen was not a source for its story.
	Okay.
	Well, if you just heard what this guy said and Judy heard...
	The guy says, Cohen, Cohen said this, Cohen said that.
	Cohen was the source of the story.
	Let's play clip four again after listening to what you just heard.
	Law and our Constitution.
	Suborning perjury, meaning telling someone else to lie before the Congress or before a jury.
	But, Congressman, what is it exactly in this new information that you think makes it something that is an impeachable offense?
	What is it exactly?
	Well, let's start with this.
	We don't know whether or not this is true.
	All we have is one news report about what one witness has said.
	Now, obviously, it's a key witness, and Michael Cohen was the president's personal lawyer.
	But what Cohen is saying is that the president urged him and counseled him and essentially conspired with him to lie before Congress.
	So he's just delusional because he believes that the one witness...
	The one source or was it one witness?
	The one source.
	One witness or one source.
	He didn't make it clear that was the only one.
	Right.
	But he does say that Cohen was behind this report.
	And it's clear by the reporting done on PBS just five minutes before that he was listening to...
	Because when you go and sit down on one of these things, you're hearing the whole show.
	He didn't hear it.
	They don't hear this stuff.
	Yeah, they do.
	He only hears himself, is what I'm saying.
	Well, he does, yeah.
	He could actually hear it, I'm sure.
	The audio waves.
	But let's take it to another level.
	Judy heard it.
	Judy heard the Jardin report where she specifically says, in that ISO, Cohen did not contribute to the BuzzFeed report.
	He didn't say anything about anything.
	He's mom.
	He's over on the sidelines.
	Judy knows that.
	She just heard it a few minutes ago.
	She did the report.
	Meanwhile, this guy's saying that is Cohen spilling his guts that's causing the problem?
	And she doesn't say anything?
	I would like to remind you that just because she has pearls, has a stately manner about her, doesn't mean that she isn't just like any other prostitute.
	She's just reading the prompter.
	She's not listening to anybody.
	Apparently not.
	She missed the Nixon thing.
	She missed this.
	And this one I thought was more egregious.
	Because this guy's going on and on about Cohen spilling his guts in the BuzzFeed article when, in fact, he didn't even contribute to the BuzzFeed article as previously mentioned in the same news report.
	This was a continuation of what Jardens was doing.
	This is extremely poor reporting.
	I mean, I can't believe how bad it is.
	She's got to go.
	I think you should replace her.
	I'm not replacing anybody.
	Okay.
	It's just a thought.
	It doesn't give me the opportunity to grouse like this.
	I can tell you're very disappointed.
	I've been incredibly disappointed.
	Ever since Gwen...
	Eiffel died.
	...died, this show has deteriorated to an extreme.
	But it sure taught me a lesson.
	Because we were always harping on Gwen.
	And then she passed away, and it turns out she was the real heart of the show.
	Yes, apparently.
	We didn't know.
	We didn't know.
	Just a wrap for what I've got.
	I don't have that much, but I do have the correction on PBS the next day, which is so lame.
	But I want to play...
	I got two.
	Actually, I got two more clips.
	But I want to play this story by Democracy Now!, which includes the Amy Klobuchar thing.
	Or we can skip.
	It's only a minute.
	Yeah, let's play it.
	Play it.
	Democrats say such an order would also constitute obstruction of justice.
	A felony Trump's nominee to become the next Attorney General, William Barr, appeared to agree with that position during his Senate confirmation hearing Tuesday.
	Barr was questioned by Minnesota Democrat.
	Timeline Tuesday.
	Amy Klobuchar.
	The president persuading a person to commit perjury would be obstruction.
	Is that right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Any person who persuades another...
	Okay.
	You also said that a president or any person convincing a witness to change testimony would be obstruction.
	Is that right?
	Yes.
	Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reported Donald Trump ordered Michael...
	Now, I ask you.
	Just for a moment.
	So this was Tuesday.
	By the way, I'm giving you kudos on this one.
	Thank you.
	For making this catch.
	This is...
	Not only is it kind of a...
	The bar is even answering kind of like, why are you asking me these stupid questions?
	Yeah, exactly.
	He was.
	He was like befuddled.
	But why is Democracy Now!
	and why is Judy showing this as the highlight of Tuesday's testimony?
	Well, not Judy.
	Judy is Democracy Now!
	Amy.
	Why is Democracy Now!
	showing this, of all the things, this as the highlight, on Tuesday, almost, you know, five days before the bombshell drops?
	Because they're all fucking complicit, that's why.
	Well, no, I'm not going to completely buy that because this Amy report was done on the Friday...
	They had just dug this old thing up and pulled it into the Friday report because they knew that the BuzzFeed thing was out and live.
	How convenient.
	Well, it was.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	It was a little bit much.
	But Klobuchar would do this.
	So Klobuchar is complicit in some sort of a scam.
	Well, how about this?
	What if...
	Because remember, Ben White or whoever the guy...
	Ben Smith.
	Yeah, Ben.
	Ben.
	Ben Smith.
	He disgraces the name Ben.
	Oh, people named Ben.
	We know dudes named Ben.
	They're heroes.
	This is no dude named Ben.
	This is a douche named Ben.
	He has some kind of official mainstream background, doesn't he?
	The editor?
	He's got all kinds of background.
	He's loaded with background.
	You should look him up.
	How about this?
	Why would he...
	When Miller's office comes out, and you can read it any way you want, but he said, hey, this is not factual.
	That's probably a good translation.
	This is not factual, what you guys put out there.
	And a simmer down was kind of the undertone.
	Maybe he didn't get it directly from sources.
	Maybe he got it from a congressperson's sources.
	Because he felt pretty strong, saying, no, no, we stand by our reporting.
	Well, maybe the source is Klobuchar.
	Maybe the source is this Kramer-looking guy.
	Raskin.
	Who knows who the source is?
	I have a feeling that that would be interesting to know.
	The Raskin guy is definitely something wrong with him.
	I wouldn't trust this guy an inch.
	I do have one last clip of, and I'm not going to play the Mayacalpa clip because it's not that interesting, but I do have a clip where the truth wants to come out.
	One of our favorites.
	This is Lanny Davis, the The lawyer for Cohen, who hates Trump, blathering on and he has a little flub at the end.
	To Democrats, it's a bombshell claim that comes with a caveat, if it's true.
	If the president directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress, then that's a clear case of participating in perjury and obstruction of justice, and he should resign.
	That's after an explosive new report which says President Trump personally instructed his longtime lawyer to lie to Congress to hide his involvement in a real estate deal for a proposed Moscow Trump Tower.
	NBC News has not verified the report and neither has any other news outlet.
	BuzzFeed cites two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter.
	After President Trump tweeted a vague reference to Cohen's father-in-law, one of Cohen's advisors says he now fears for his family and may not testify as planned in front of Congress next month.
	Family is out of bounds.
	There's only one person in the country, one president in our history, that would threaten family as a tactic to make fear of somebody who calls a rat for telling the truth.
	And that's President Trump.
	President who?
	President Truth.
	Truth.
	Damn!
	Damn my mouth!
	What was it saying, President Truth?
	That's funny in a whole bunch of ways.
	I got quite a kick out of the panel over at CNN, who immediately threw BuzzFeed under the bus, which is the only way to go, I think, if you're CNN. Blame it on those guys, quick!
	Who'd they have on?
	They had the constitutional lawyer, Toobin, who's there a lot lately, and Brian Seltzerwater, the media guy.
	The egghead.
	Here it is.
	I have a different view of the implications of all this.
	My view is...
	The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president and they're willing to lie to do it.
	That was some self-awareness.
	That's for sure.
	That's good, Val.
	We've got to fight back against that, of course.
	We can't have that.
	And I don't think that's true.
	I'm focused on the media side.
	Preet's talking about the law enforcement side.
	They're not contradictory.
	But I just think this is a bad day for us.
	You've got to admit, Tubin is on point with this.
	This is a bad day, so I have respect a little bit for him.
	I disagree a little bit, but I just think, you know, it reinforces every bad stereotype about the news media.
	It does reinforce bad stereotypes about the news media.
	I agree with you.
	I am desperate as a media reporter to always say to the audience, judge folks individually and judge brands individually.
	Don't fall for what these politicians out there want you to do.
	They want you to think we're all crooked.
	We're not.
	Oh God, I sound like Richard Nixon.
	He has his hands up in his peace signs.
	And neither is BuzzFeed.
	But now BuzzFeed, now the onus is on BuzzFeed.
	Right now the onus is on BuzzFeed.
	Bad day for BuzzFeed.
	Ben Smith says he knows the identity of the two sources.
	Obviously the reporters know the identity of the two sources.
	They're going to be going back to those two sources and hopefully to other sources to try to get to the bottom of this.
	Oh, how many sources could there be, Brian?
	Now it's a dispute, and I don't know how that dispute's going to be resolved.
	I'm not disagreeing with you.
	This will be used, obviously, against the media as a whole.
	I hope the president doesn't invite everybody else to use it against the press.
	I think that the president is very likely, if passed his prelude, going to see this as evidence for his attacks on the media being justified, and I think that his supporters would say that that is understandable.
	But then we need to keep reinforcing to the audience how much smoke there is.
	There's a massive fire.
	So much evidence of wrongdoing.
	But we do do that.
	We do that every day.
	I think that there are two important things to remember.
	If the media gets something wrong, and Ben Smith is saying they stand by their reporting, if the media gets something wrong, it is incumbent on us to correct it.
	And I understand that it is frustrating to the press and also to people who believe in the press that the White House does not necessarily follow that same standard for themselves, but that has nothing to do with what we do.
	We have to keep our standards high, even if others are low.
	So, just another, White House standards are so low, they're lower than ours in this case.
	So, we kept them high.
	We kept them high by saying, well, we couldn't confirm the report.
	But the bombshell report, explosive report.
	Bombshell.
	Oh, jeez.
	Yeah.
	That was just fantastic to see that happen in 48 hours.
	This happens the next day and ends the day after.
	It was just so entertaining.
	I don't even think it lasted 24 full hours.
	No.
	No, it didn't.
	Within that small period, that small window, they all piled on like maniacs.
	It was interesting because Saturday morning we woke up and Tina's like, oh man, Twitter's blowing up.
	She's my canary in the coal mine.
	And I say, what's happening?
	Buzzfeed.
	Buzzfeed, like, what?
	If you lie, then screw this guy.
	And I'm like, okay.
	And I said, yeah, I think I said, you know, it's Buzzfeed.
	Let's see how this shakes out.
	And she was monitoring.
	People were just losing their crap over this.
	And that was just Twitter.
	That wasn't even until we flipped on the TV and saw everyone going nuts.
	And then, yeah, 24 hours later, gone.
	Although not really because, you know, it's so unusual for the special investigator's office to make any kind of statement.
	This is so unusual!
	It must be some code.
	There's code.
	We gotta parse the words better.
	It's code.
	There's definitely some code in there.
	Sure there's code.
	The mainstream guys, the big boys, not the, you know, BuzzFeeds or anybody lesser.
	Yeah.
	The mainstream guys just kind of brush it under.
	They did a real quickie.
	They didn't even do it.
	Quick turnaround.
	In a way that they led with it.
	But when it comes to, for example, I have an example.
	This is the Saturday PBS teaser.
	Okay.
	So now this is the teaser.
	So I'm expecting, because I think the biggest news story was the...
	The killing of this other story, especially when you led with it the day before and you made person after person after person talk about it and you brought in Jamie Raskin to go on and on.
	You'd think that you would lead with it again the next day?
	No, let's bury that below the fold.
	And you'd think you'd even tease it?
	No, here's the teaser on the next day on PBS. On this edition for Saturday, January 19th, a presidential announcement as the partial government shutdown enters its fifth week at day 29.
	The third annual Women's March takes place across the country despite recent controversy.
	And in our signature segment, Iraqi soldiers feeling forgotten after fighting for their country, next on PBS NewsHour Weekend.
	And BuzzFeed was not a bombshell.
	Where was it?
	Nothing.
	You'd think it would be in the teaser because it was such a big deal the day before, but no, they don't even bother teasing.
	They did mention, do a little piece on it, and it was mediocre.
	It was hardly anything like we screwed up, but it was an embarrassment for the media.
	I think that Toobin is right.
	Yes.
	But in this case, when he does that, then all of a sudden he's a lawyer.
	I'm not really a media guy over here.
	I'm not really a news guy.
	I'm a lawyer, so I've got to set it straight.
	This is pretty much almost as bad as these guys when they get caught reporting a hoax.
	Which happens at least a couple of times a year.
	Well, they did exactly.
	Look, anyone who reads a report in the New York Times, it's just become normal.
	We've talked about this for years now.
	It used to be get someone on record to state their name and say, here's what I said.
	And that's just turned into sources.
	And at first it was government sources, and it was people who know government sources, and now it's just some sources.
	And they got caught.
	It should be a big warning to some of the other big mainstream publications, mainly the New York Times.
	They should be very careful because they're going to get caught in this someday as well.
	You just keep reporting with sources.
	Well, they've been quite a number of times with some of the fake reporters that they had working for them.
	Oh, yeah, but then it's just, well, this guy was bad.
	It was a bad apple, and he made stuff up.
	He was bad.
	It was just him.
	It was not the New York Times, not the institution.
	Just one slip through, like the TSA, letting the old granny with a handgun in her bag.
	That's the way it's handled.
	Granny with a handgun.
	Granny, get your gun.
	Okay, so we did have some other things happen over the weekend.
	Really?
	I thought the president's 3 p.m.
	speech was interesting.
	Wait, did you use the word interesting?
	Yeah, I thought it was interesting.
	It was interesting for a number of reasons.
	He had a different setting.
	It was kind of like in the hallway with George Washington behind him.
	It looked not very regal and presidential.
	It looked kind of like off to the side.
	I don't know.
	Someone just built a quick little set.
	I don't know what your impression was, but I thought it was kind of weak.
	That didn't bother me at all.
	And he offered a deal.
	And he tried to explain why we need a wall.
	I don't know if anyone watches these things.
	I don't know if there was any real reporting.
	What I got was, I think this is from CBS, and they actually edited this because, you know, why give you everything the president said?
	But this was his offer in the CBS edit.
	Our plan includes the following.
	$800 million in urgent humanitarian assistance.
	$805 million for drug detection technology to help secure our ports of entry.
	An additional 2,750 border agents and law enforcement professionals.
	Seventy-five new immigration judge teams to reduce the court backlog of, believe it or not, almost 900,000 cases.
	Our plan includes critical measures to protect migrant children from exploitation and abuse.
	This includes a new system to allow Central American miners to apply for asylum in their home countries and reform to promote family reunification for unaccompanied children.
	Now, that kind of went by in a weird sentence, but what is this about miners who can then apply for a visa?
	Is there some mining company he's hooking up here?
	Seriously, that's what it sounds like to me.
	It sounds like that to me.
	It sounds like kids.
	To allow Central American minors...
	Oh, minors, as in children.
	Oh, jeez.
	Oh, you didn't hear it right?
	No.
	I thought you were just kidding me.
	No, I'm like, what the hell is he talking about?
	Minors?
	Okay.
	Sorry, it's the weed.
	Apply for asylum in their home countries and reform to promote family reunification for unaccompanied children, thousands of whom wind up...
	On our border doorstep, to physically secure our border, the plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall.
	There are two more elements.
	See, that's where they cut out what he explains it, so they just cut that out?
	...to my plan.
	Number one is three years of legislative relief for 700,000 DACA recipients brought here unlawfully by their parents at a young age many years ago.
	This extension will give them access to work permits, social security numbers, and protection from deportation, most importantly.
	Secondly, our proposal provides a three-year extension of temporary protected status, or TPS. This means that 300,000 immigrants whose protective status is facing expiration will now have three more years of certainty so that Congress can work on a larger immigration deal, which everybody wants, Republicans and Democrats.
	So when I heard this, to me it sounded like a little light on the offering.
	Hadn't we been at like 2 million DACA and the DACA kids' parents?
	That was the last time we heard about it.
	I would think that the Democrats would jump at any DACA deal.
	Well, Trump did this with a DACA deal a year and a half ago or something like that, a year ago.
	Well, they refused it.
	They're not going to buy anything he does.
	They don't care about DACA. They're a bunch of phonies on the whole side of the aisle.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm just...
	Trump doesn't either.
	He's just trying to make something happen, I guess.
	He's not doing any...
	I mean, he's a great negotiator.
	He should be able to do a better job than let these...
	Pelosi and Schumer, two, like, weirdos, run him around like this.
	But okay, we'll see what happens.
	They have some power right now, so they can totally do that.
	Well, Schumer not so much, but Pelosi for sure.
	Pelosi does.
	Now...
	So, of course, we had the, you're not allowed to do your State of the Union in the House, according to Pelosi.
	You can do that from the Oval Office.
	Screw you.
	And then Trump grounded her plane.
	Yeah, I know.
	That was funny.
	And then Lindsey Graham comes out and makes some commentary about this being one sophomoric act after another.
	Well, before we go any further, what she was doing, and there was Adam Schiff, I think, was going along and a couple other congresspersons.
	Yeah, sure.
	And they're going to Brussels.
	And we know what's happening.
	We know when they go to Brussels, why are they going to Brussels?
	Yeah.
	Well, they're going to go to...
	They were supposed to stop at Davos, do some skiing, and they're going to get some french fries.
	Yes, yes.
	And they're going to have a few meals there, maybe meet up with some EU guys, and maybe they'll pick up the tab.
	It doesn't really matter.
	So there's a name for this, which I had not heard before, but makes total sense.
	And Steve Pachanek sent me a link to his video that he did yesterday.
	I clipped the beginning of it.
	It's called a CODEL. Nancy Pelosi, for reasons that are beyond my...
	Understanding decided to go on a CODEL. Now, let me explain what a CODEL is.
	A CODEL is a congressional delegation that goes to a specific country.
	I was in the State Department, as you know, I was a senior official, and I was in charge in many cases of having our ambassadors represent The country that the congresspeople were coming to and literally having to act as a receptionist for the congressman or the congresswoman, utilizing all of our assets in the embassy, making things happen that, in fact, we didn't need to happen.
	We had to use our deputy chief of mission, the station chief, our political officers were all tied up Making sure that the congressional representatives were happy, pleased, entertained, and for maybe a few minutes they were involved with the key issues of a particular country.
	In this case, Brussels was the beginning point, and that was not an accident.
	Brussels is where they can go out, they can have a good time.
	The congresspeople, they can enjoy themselves.
	For the most part, they could care little about NATO. You can find out anything and everything you want about NATO on the internet, and they know very well they can get on the phone.
	The real issue here is that Nancy Pelosi is known for having these junkets all through her career.
	She had over 80 of them between 2009 and 2010.
	One of these Codells cost us $185,000 in tax dollars.
	That means that when Nancy Pelosi is ordered to go on a private plane, as Trump had ordered her to do, she said no.
	And the reason why she said no is that her husband wouldn't pay for the flight, and she didn't want to use any of her own money to fly overseas.
	There you go.
	The Codell.
	Yeah.
	And you can hear that these people show up at like an embassy over there and everyone's pissed off.
	I can imagine.
	Totally!
	Now we gotta look busy and make these people feel like they're doing something.
	Yeah, it makes so much sense.
	Yeah, and then you go gallivanting around town, do some shopping.
	Yes.
	Used to watch Hillary do these things and she always comes back with this fabulous hairdo.
	Yes, when she saw Pierre in France.
	But no one wants to go to Paris right now because, you know, it's kind of a shithole.
	It just keeps on going.
	Demonstrations by so-called Yellow Vest protesters in Paris turned to riots as those taking part demanded that French President Emmanuel Macron should resign.
	Police used tear gas and water cannon as demonstrators became violent.
	Police also tackled them with batons and controversial flashball guns.
	Crowds calling for Macron to step down also carried coffin-shaped items to represent the ten people who've died in the protests.
	There were 30 arrests in Paris, many suspected of carrying offensive weapons.
	Similar demonstrations took place in other French cities and towns, and more than 50,000 police and gendarmes were deployed.
	The LFS protests began on November the 17th over an increase in fuel taxes.
	Those fuel taxes have been scrapped, but the campaign has now become an anti-Macron protest.
	Yeah.
	And very quiet in the international news gathering and reporting business about this.
	The UK has a growing legion of yellow vests.
	They don't want to give anybody any ideas, and so the media's all in with the governments to not really talk about this too much.
	As far as I can tell, except for that report where you got it from, I think...
	I've seen some minor stuff on Sky News.
	We're the only ones to talk about it.
	Yeah, and these flashballs...
	AVS doesn't talk about it.
	No, no, no.
	We have no time to talk about these things.
	It's way too important.
	No, the flashball thing.
	It's actually killing people with these.
	It's shooting them in the back of the head.
	It's a registered trademark for the normally less lethal.
	Normally.
	Or nominally.
	It's nominally less lethal.
	Oh, okay.
	Nominally less lethal.
	It's a big thing.
	It looks like a grenade launcher.
	Yeah, definitely.
	A huge bore.
	Maybe.
	It's kind of like a hundred millimeter bore.
	Officers not situated, apparently they fire these things and they, it was developed by a French hunting firearms manufacturer, Vernie, what is it?
	Carrie Caron, I guess.
	The weapon exists in two versions.
	The caliber is, they have a It's a.44.
	It looks bigger than that.
	It looks like an.88.
	Oh, I see.
	It's a.44, but the.83.
	It's an.83.
	Yeah, see?
	.83.
	Huge!
	What is the projectile?
	Super Pro version.
	Features vertically stacked barrels.
	What does it shoot?
	A flashball?
	What is that?
	It shoots a rubber ball.
	The main one just shoots a rubber ball.
	Oh.
	This is a big, giant rubber ball.
	It's like getting hit with a handball.
	Well, I saw a guy that had to put him in an induced coma.
	Probably hit him in the head with this rubber ball.
	Yeah, hit him in the back of the head with a rubber ball.
	But yes, the UK apparently has a real movement now.
	I'm just getting this from bloggers.
	No mainstream reporting.
	Thanks to Sir Gene, who, by the way, is a Duke and not an Earl.
	Made that mistake on the last show.
	You know, the keeper and I, we got our yellow vest.
	We're ready.
	We're ready to take to the streets.
	Good.
	That is another no agenda premium item we could consider, by the way.
	We don't sell product.
	And in the black trumps, weighing in at over 3,000 troops, the ISIS virus, the killer from Nigeria, Ebola!
	That's right, ladies and gentlemen, wherever there's Ebola, the troops are soon to follow.
	And we have confirmation.
	Wait, I'll do this in order.
	The Democratic Republic of Congo...
	Particularly the northern part is where your iPhone comes from, the cobalt materials, which, by the way, are only, in Apple's case, taken from artisan miners.
	That's little kids, but they're artisan, small batch.
	Little kids using stones to dig in the dirt.
	They are truly a small batch of miners, so small batch works here.
	They had an election, which, well, you know, it's never really gone well there.
	And, as predicted, this one is now being seriously disputed.
	We go to Africa today.
	Martin Foyelu, an opposition leader in the Democratic Republic of Congo, declared himself as the only legitimate president of the country on Sunday.
	His reaction follows a ruling by the Constitutional Court confirming fellow Shisekedi as win of the December 30 polls.
	The Constitutional Court has once again confirmed that, like the Seny, it is at the service of a dictatorial individual.
	It is neither more nor less a constitutional coup d'etat because it brings to the supreme magistracy a non-elected.
	Foyulu asks the international community not to accept the verdict by the country's top court.
	I ask moreover to the whole of the international community not to recognize a power which has neither legitimacy No legal standing to represent the Congolese people.
	Martin Fayelu also called on the Congolese people to organize peaceful protests across the country to protest against the ruling by the Constitutional Court.
	So the point of me playing this report is, one, this is the only report I could find on it from Africa today.
	There is an ongoing dispute, and just before the election, which not everyone even in the country has voted in yet, just before the election, there was an outbreak of Ebola in this very region.
	It was small, and there were some protests, and people actually went and kicked over the Ebola camp, which makes total sense.
	That's what I do when I'm pissed off.
	And so now we have this true dispute.
	There's been articles filed and there's problems.
	And although I have no audio, no video reports, Vox picked it up.
	The Ebola outbreak in eastern Congo is moving towards a major city.
	That's not good!
	680 cases.
	Officially now the second worst outbreak of Ebola ever in history!
	Ebola!
	So troops are on their way.
	There's no way.
	Troops have to come now.
	This is how it works.
	Yep.
	We already have about 80 of them.
	We sent the troops over early, the reconnaissance team.
	But now it's going to Goma.
	This is apparently where the output has spread to Goma.
	Goma.
	Goma, yeah.
	This is in northern Kivu.
	This is where all your artisan small batch cobalt comes from.
	Goma is not only entirely run by the Chinese, it is also kind of the crossroads of transportation.
	So we're very worried now that if Ebola gets to Goma, it could then spread via train.
	All over Africa.
	Let's go to China.
	Well, maybe that is a new strategy that I hadn't heard of, but I'm pretty sure...
	It's a new strategy.
	I'm pretty sure...
	It's Andy Bola to China.
	See how they react to it.
	They got a lot of people.
	I'm pretty sure everyone there knows this is total bullshit.
	Ebola.
	They come from Africa.
	Ebola. Ebola.
	Well, you're on the topic of these crazy things that aren't being reported here.
	We might as well play this.
	Do you know what's going on in Venezuela?
	No, how could I know?
	They're covering the BuzzFeed story, but let's play.
	This actually is from Democracy Now!, but this is the unreported action in Venezuela.
	This is hot stuff.
	The United States and allied nations in Latin America are ratcheting up pressure on Venezuela in what appears to be a coordinated effort to remove Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro from office.
	Maduro was sworn in last week to a second six-year term following his victory in last May's election, which was boycotted by the opposition.
	Days before Maduro was sworn in, opposition figure Juan Guaido became head of the National Assembly, which soon voted to declare Maduro a usurper in an effort to remove him from office.
	The United States, Brazil, and other nations have welcomed the effort.
	Vice President Mike Pence tweeted, the U.S. strongly supports the courageous decision by Juan Guaido to declare the country's presidency vacant.
	On the day of Maduro's inauguration, January 10th, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called Guaido to congratulate him on his election victory to head the National Assembly.
	Then National Security Advisor John Bolton announced, quote, the United States does not recognize Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro's illegitimate claim to power, unquote.
	Brazil, now led by the far-right president Jair Bolsonaro, has gone a step further by saying it recognizes Juan Guaido as the rightful president of Venezuela, even though Guaido himself hasn't even claimed that title.
	A group of Latin American countries known as the Lima Group also recently voted to not recognize the legitimacy of Maduro's presidency.
	Mexico was the sole dissenter.
	The U.S.-led effort targeting the oil-rich nation of Venezuela dates back two decades since the late Hugo Chavez became president in 1999.
	So there we go.
	We call it action.
	Now, if I'm around the water cooler, what can I actually say I learned from that?
	Well, you learned that the economic hitmen always win.
	Yeah, to cut it short.
	Yeah, okay.
	Got it.
	Thanks.
	Now, here's what you're going to – here's what the little thing that I'm seeing here.
	You should look this guy up, Juan Guaido, G-U-A-I-D-O, and look at his images.
	He is a dead ringer, and the way he acts and the way he speaks and the way he moves around, the way he mugs the camera, Obama.
	Hmm, let me take a look.
	He's an Obama clone.
	And he's going to be put in office.
	They had other testimony on this show saying, oh, then nobody knows who this Guido guy is.
	But you can see what he is.
	He is going to be put in office as the head of Venezuela, and he's going to become the great long-term dictator.
	That's our buddy.
	So we can get all the oil we want off of that huge reserve they have off the coast.
	Now, who is this guy?
	This Guaido?
	How do we know?
	Can we just call him?
	Are you guys pictures?
	You look at him?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He looks like...
	I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, he's Obama.
	But who's...
	He's the guy who became head of the Senate or whatever they have.
	He's the head of the legislature.
	But he's got American stooge written all over him.
	And they said, you know, we kind of like the way Obama operated.
	Let's give that a shot down here.
	Let's make him the guy.
	Huh.
	And he's obviously going to go along with the program, and you can see it coming down Broadway.
	Not being reported yet, but there's going to be something going on.
	Someone's going to shoot Maduro.
	Yeah, we got to try to get him out of there.
	We're going to pick him up and drop him off in an airport runway, what they do with that guy in Honduras.
	But that's got to be all CIA running that.
	I mean, who has time for that?
	Who has time?
	Let's say CIA is the only guy who's got time to deal with that.
	Yeah, I guess the CIA, they liked this Obama look.
	That was their first guy, so...
	Well, with that, allow me to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the DRC, John C. DeVores!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry, and in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feed the air Sunday, Sunday, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Woo!
	That's right, everybody!
	Woo!
	And now, back to real news.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room at NoAgendaStream.com.
	We love seeing you there.
	Thanks for helping out.
	Always giving us a real-time rundown of what we're doing wrong.
	And sometimes they troll.
	And also a hearty in the morning to Nick the Rat, I believe.
	Yes, Nick the Rat bought us the artwork.
	And uploaded that to noagendaartgenerator.com as his contribution to the Value Network.
	For episode 1104, The People's Vote, this was our bouncy castle.
	Our bouncy castle flotilla.
	We had to debate this quite a bit to get that one in.
	Yeah.
	Well, there were a couple other really interesting ones.
	What was the debate?
	Yeah.
	The debate was we could never use this one again, probably.
	Oh, right.
	We had another one on there that I thought was really good.
	I think it was another Darren one.
	Could have been, yeah.
	But it was something that could be used sometime in the future.
	Yes.
	And so often when something is evergreen, meaning it can be used in any situation, it comes up in the conversation.
	And we often say, well, you know what?
	We'll remember that as an evergreen.
	Yeah.
	And we never do!
	I was going to say, sometimes we do.
	It happens once in a while.
	And, of course, we always like to thank our executive and our associate executive producers at the top of the show, just like Hollywood does, except we honor producers, unlike Hollywood, and we like to thank them here.
	Yeah.
	I gotta go grab a note, because our top executive producer is Sir Onimus of Dogpatch.
	Ah!
	He's alive!
	Curiously, we were talking about him.
	We were, and we were concerned for him.
	Yeah, because he hadn't shown up for the December Christmas season or anything, or New Year's even.
	And he always sends us a handwritten note, or is it a typewritten note?
	No, it's always typewritten because he doesn't want to give away anything.
	Although the printer probably has some codes.
	I should mention this to people.
	We mention this occasionally to would-be counterfeiters out there.
	That all printers, all modern printers, print a very light yellow code on every sheet of paper they print, which includes the serial number of the printer and makes it traceable.
	If you're a counterfeiter, you will not see these little yellow dots, but they're there.
	And that's the trick.
	That's the printer deep state.
	Deep state of printers.
	Deep state.
	So I assume, because this doesn't look like a typewriter...
	Which is also traceable.
	There's some code on here.
	You know what?
	He just shouldn't send us anything.
	Stop sending us stuff.
	I don't keep his notes.
	I was thinking I should keep them.
	You burned the notes.
	I burned the notes.
	Very good.
	I burned the notes in the fireplace, just to be sure.
	And you know what?
	I believe you.
	I believe you.
	I recognize that this guy is who knows who.
	Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch, he came with $1,333.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Thank you to all the producers that make this the best source of news in the known universe.
	This is one of his longer notes.
	The album art, the jingles, the clips, the show notes, the knowledge shared, and the open discussion of topics avoided or superficially covered by the M5M continues to make this, no agenda, the best source of information available.
	To non-contributing listeners, come on!
	All caps.
	It's a new year, and with your help, John and Adam can continue to build on their years of hard work to make this program even better.
	Loris Lobovia was suffering more than I expected this visit.
	Indexing domestically manufactured goods to the dollar makes survival even harder.
	I don't know what countries do that, but that's where it's going.
	The growing population of educated youth are more disgruntled with the lack of local opportunities.
	We know many EU countries suffer this, but in poorer countries, the challenge is no better and perhaps more dangerous.
	Loris Lobovia's social welfare groups outside government supposed programs are extremely modest, and I visited a few.
	NGOs seem to focus on education and construction, places you can get attention to extract some cash.
	The real needy are left to the poorly funded government agencies and a few religious organizations.
	And with the price indexing issues, the needy are getting even less.
	I had an opportunity to reflect on how when you don't have the safety net, such as your mobile phone, believing you can get help at a moment's notice, you are more thoughtful in your decisions.
	I had to read that.
	Yeah, read that again.
	Read that again.
	Yes, because you have to listen to what he has to say.
	He reflected on how when you don't have the safety net, such as your mobile phone, believing you can get help at a moment's notice, You are more thoughtful in your decisions.
	Well, this is true.
	When we were kids, we were more thoughtful because we had no safety net.
	Yeah.
	My mom said, if it's messed up, go to a police officer, ask him for help.
	I don't think kids get that advice anymore.
	He's saying, no AAA around to help change my tire and nothing but a few wild animals in a distant village to watch, causing me to reflect on how foolish decisions increase when you don't fear for your life.
	No wonder millennials behave as they do.
	They believe there's always someone available to help them when they take foolish risks.
	Wow!
	And you know what?
	They've been taught that.
	Yeah.
	Well, the phone doesn't help.
	I am sharing some gains.
	By the way, I've decided to...
	To not use my navigator anymore.
	Oh, very good.
	I've stopped doing that myself.
	Yeah.
	It's better.
	It's not just better, but it doesn't tell everyone where you are.
	Well, besides that, but it's still better.
	It's better for you.
	Yes.
	Just as a quick aside, Tina and I did something for our aging attention spans and brains, which I would recommend.
	We built the Lego roller coaster together.
	It was a gift, and we just found that it's kind of fun.
	We put the whole thing together.
	It was like 16 hours of build, and it's good for your brain, and it was good for us as a couple.
	Like, hey, we got along pretty well.
	It was nice.
	It was good.
	Lego therapy is pretty neat.
	Okay.
	I will say a couple of things about not using the navigator and just kind of, you know, you look up to where the place is and then you say, oh, that's right, it's over here, over there, and then you just go, is that I've been having a lot of dreams of roaming around lost.
	Wow.
	And you wake up in a cold sweat?
	No, I wake up saying, oh, that was dumb.
	Yeah.
	The last one I had, I was lost in Berkeley because I had parked my – wherever I was staying.
	Your Prius.
	On Telegraph Avenue and then I kept going down Telegraph.
	And I looked up the street.
	This wasn't Telegraph Avenue.
	It was some street I've never heard of.
	You were in Oakland.
	And then I said – and I looked around and I saw the top dog and I reacquainted myself with the area saying, ah, that's a block away from Telegraph where it's supposed to be.
	I'm not supposed to be over here.
	And I went down and I eventually found it through a series of missed turns and misdirections.
	All in your dream?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Okay, yeah.
	Definitely time to start working on your map skills.
	Apparently, I read an article about how learning music, learning a new musical instrument is very good.
	Well, yay!
	Yay for us!
	Yay for the show!
	What are you going to take up now, you virtuoso?
	Anyway, back to...
	Dogpatch.
	I am sharing some gains from a year-end market volatility.
	John, the debt market crisis you watch for is about illiquidity, not credit.
	I don't think I ever said it was about credit.
	Remember, long-term, although now I believe this last graph and the last thing he says, he writes in code.
	We noticed this from him.
	He writes in code.
	It may not even be meant for us.
	Remember, long-term capital couldn't sell treasuries in their crisis.
	December was a no-buyer's market for debt and not because borrowers were defaulting.
	Last graph says, Excelsior, he will be missed.
	Wow!
	We dive at dawn, red three.
	I mean, really, the wet sparrow flies at night.
	Excelsior?
	He will be missed.
	Wow.
	Did you ding that?
	No, I probably should have.
	I was trying to think who died recently or what the connection would be with...
	I don't know what this means.
	Is that a Spider-Man thing?
	I hope not.
	This guy's not a guy that uses Spider-Man references.
	Well, the reason why is I just did a bing, and it says, Goodbye, Stan Lee, Excelsior.
	You will be missed, Excelsior.
	That might be it, because he's got Excelsior with an exclamation mark.
	He will be missed.
	That could be just a tribute to Stan Lee.
	Well, let's cut this out of the show, because I'd like the spy version a lot better.
	Damn.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	It could have a double entendre in there.
	Could be.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe he knew him.
	I don't know.
	I met Stan Lee once.
	Onward to the donations.
	Well, thank you very much, Sir Anonymous, of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
	Not only is it very nice to receive your support, but also your notes are an endless source of enjoyment for us here on the show.
	And they are.
	I will agree with that.
	And I hope we communicate your messages properly, so Command gets it.
	I read them verbatim.
	We are so, you know, we're so reliable.
	That would make total sense that there would be spooks sending coded messages through donations.
	Because, you know, hey, just listen on Thursday or Sunday.
	You'll know.
	I think it's a, yeah.
	Well, that's what newspapers were used for.
	They used to put those little coded classifieds in, you know, and you'd only, you know, people look at it and think much about it.
	We're the modern spook mailbox, baby.
	Could be.
	Hey, there's money in it.
	That's for us.
	We're not encouraging it, but we're not discouraging it.
	Onward to Baronet Abel Kirby in Bromfield, Colorado, $333.33.
	ITM, here's another 12 months of great deconstruction and great jingle mingles.
	Lately, the end of show mixes have been outstanding.
	I agree.
	Please send Game Jam Karma for my upcoming hobby project and keep up the great work.
	Yes, and Baronet Abel Kirby, thank you for your support.
	And he also sent an end-of-show mix, which is really a song.
	He's one of our pros in the biz.
	And he sent Gitmo Girl, which will be coming up later.
	But first, we will gladly give you your karma.
	And it is of the game jam variety.
	You've got karma now.
	Sir Ray Jacobson, $333.33.
	Sir, since 385.
	This donation is for Contact Jobs Karma.
	I had a job with Siemens fixing MRI scanners.
	After leaving my evaluation meeting, sometimes known as devaluation, with a raise lower than a cost of living again, I was not seeking a job, but after my meeting, a recruiter, a.k.a.
	headhunter, got me into touch with an established high-tech company and we negotiated a higher salary, hence Contact Jobs Karma.
	I just received my first bigger paycheck and I want to give back some karma to the No Agenda show's karma and encourage those who receive jobs karma to give back when they land their job.
	I just want to say No Agenda is the only place for real deconstruction of news events.
	M5M, MF, M5M is for the slaves and Fox is run by Democrats.
	Heyo!
	Thanks, thanks, thanks, thank you John and Adam and all those who make the No Agenda show work.
	All right.
	And does he need an extra karma?
	Contact Jobs Karma.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Oh, we'll do that.
	There we go.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Joshua Smith comes in from Port Orchard, Washington at $333.
	We've got a few executive producers today.
	Thank you very much.
	Smith Family is donating an executive producer's spot for my brother Justin's 33rd birthday.
	Please give our family a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And some health tumor for his three-year-old son who went through a heart transplant.
	Yo!
	Last July.
	When it comes to the plumbing stuff, medicine is pretty damn good.
	You know, broken bones, but the heart stuff.
	Tina was following this family.
	I don't know if there was a family that was at the Ronald McDonald house or not.
	The girl had a heart transplant.
	After like three days, she's running and jumping around.
	It's a young baby.
	I mean, young.
	Like, you know, it's three.
	It's unbelievable how good they are with this stuff.
	So, yes, a big health karma there.
	You've got karma.
	That I am very surprised by.
	Well, I remember when the first heart transplant actually took place.
	It was in South Africa, if I'm not mistaken.
	Was it South Africa?
	Yeah, the guy, the South African doctor.
	I think he's the one that developed the technique.
	If I'm not mistaken, I don't think I am.
	Wasn't it Ben Carson?
	No, but he became good at it.
	Sherry Laurie, $333, says she's in Australia.
	I looked in her email just there as we were chatting, and she doesn't have anything for us.
	She has no note.
	Okay, well, thank you very much, Sherry.
	She can always give us one.
	Yes, send us a note if you got one.
	Down to the associate executive producer, beginning with Jonathan Keegan in Charlotteville.
	Charlotte, sorry, not Charlotteville.
	Charlotte, North Carolina, 322222.
	It's been way too long since my last donation, which is a shame because the twice-a-week news and media deconstruction that YouTube provide is vital to the sanity of everyone.
	Please de-douche me!
	You've been de-douched.
	And could I receive some goat scream karma for my upcoming trip to Costa Rica?
	Also, I know the limit is three, but if possible, it's kind of three.
	I would like to request a following four jingles.
	I've got new information.
	Obama, you might die.
	This actually sounds like it's going to be pretty funny.
	Two to the head.
	And Dr.
	Kinky.
	Dr.
	Kinky.
	Dr.
	Kinky.
	He wrote kinky.
	And then a goat karma?
	I read these things right off the thing.
	A cold read.
	Dr.
	Kinky, science.
	Yeah, and then the goat karma.
	I've got information, man.
	New shit has come to light.
	You might die.
	Science!
	Very good.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Yeah, I liked it.
	Fun sequence.
	I enjoy when somebody comes up with something like that.
	It's very...
	It's just funny.
	It's so creative.
	It's creative.
	It's creative.
	Michael O'Meally in Rye, New York, 221.
	Been a regular listener since John was a guest on Grimerica.
	Hey!
	It worked!
	It worked!
	We got one!
	That's the guy I was after.
	Our cross-promotion to success.
	And this is my first donation.
	I'm currently a resident of Ontario.
	I'm originally a New Yorker, so my donation is an American currency.
	You guys deserve it.
	I thought it only appropriate to wait to donate to my job as an email marketer.
	Was eliminated by my company and my beautiful fiancee informed me that our first human resource will be joining us in August.
	This was a vent for 48 hours.
	Happened only six weeks ago.
	And since then, my former boss has already resigned and I was asked back to work as a freelancer.
	That happened to me at MTV. That was great.
	And I charged twice as much.
	Yeah, but you don't have any benefits.
	No, that's true.
	I guess they are missing the millions of dollars and 60% increase in sales I generated last year, you think?
	You think?
	But since my work visa was already voided, I'm in unemployment limbo while my new paperwork is processed.
	To pass the time, I'm left to enjoy both your podcast and my former company's self-destruction from afar.
	Will a little Carmen goat scream be too much to ask for?
	Keep up the excellent work.
	No, it's not too much to ask for.
	So he's now technically overstayed his visa?
	Well, yeah.
	He overstayed his work permit.
	I don't know about his visa.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Those Scandinavians, man, coming here, messing it up, taking American jobs.
	I wonder what he does.
	He's in direct marketing.
	Email marketer.
	I bet he's really good.
	Maybe he could give me a tip.
	Yes.
	Michael, thank you very much.
	And, of course, we have a little goat service, goat karma for you.
	No problem.
	You've got karma.
	There she blows.
	I do like to pass the tips back and forth because it's kind of a community of marketeers.
	Somebody came here with this idea of, they noticed this, they thought it might be a gambit.
	To trick the filters on the email.
	And so I tried it.
	I did an AB. It wasn't this last email.
	It was the one before.
	And it didn't do anything.
	It pretty much was a fail as an AB switch.
	Except for the fact that all the...
	I have about five or six people that send me a note routinely telling me where the email showed up in the Gmail.
	Yeah.
	This is something you want.
	So you'll say it ended up here.
	It ended up there.
	Half the time you can't figure out why, but at least you know.
	You know what I find interesting, something I've noticed recently?
	I don't know if you...
	No, I don't think you've done it.
	There's some field in email, I just haven't looked into it, but you can put something in there that will show up in your email client if you have preview one or two lines.
	It'll show up in that first or second line, first two lines, but it's not actually in the body of the email.
	Yeah, there's a number of these.
	The one you're talking about is the preview text, which is available and is used by MailChimp, so it's not really...
	You're expected to use it.
	I use it.
	It's always interesting.
	Well, anyway, the test I did was using two dashes before the subject line.
	So you'd say, read this note.
	So you'd have read this note as A, and B, in the A-B test, would be dash, dash, read this note.
	Because he's convinced that this was going on.
	There's something...
	I tested it.
	It didn't have zero effect except everybody who was on my list of people that report back to me coincidentally seemed to have gotten the dash dash and all of those were thrown into promotions.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	But it wasn't shown, did not show up as the AB. So I think it's meaningless.
	I wouldn't do it anymore is one thing for sure.
	It doesn't sound like a good practice.
	Um...
	So we were just finishing up with O'Meally, or Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight.
	That's where we are.
	We're on Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight.
	From Washington, D.C., 202.
	Hey, I'll crack pot and buzzkill.
	Please keep up the good work and find this donation sustaining to the best podcast in the universe.
	I recently found some graffiti here.
	In the imperial capital pertaining to the shutdown.
	Just so you know, the folks might be up to it in the spare time.
	It looks like Hollywood ransom note written from the perspective of Trump about how he has kidnapped the government from us.
	Yeah.
	Hey, send us a picture of this.
	We'll see stuff like this.
	Yeah, that's like newsletter worthy maybe.
	Totally.
	I mean, I want to see it.
	Everyone seems antsy around these parts, but booze sales seem better than ever.
	Yeah, I'll bet.
	I'll bet.
	I would humbly request jobs karma for my sanity and a health karma for my dad who is recovering from heart surgery.
	Love and light.
	Yes, you got it.
	Happy to do so, sir.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yes!
	We've got karma.
	Steven Schnuel in McMinnville, Tennessee, which I think is part of the Murfreesboro Tech Hub.
	$200.
	There's a lot of people down there, so it's actually astonishing.
	I plan on driving to work the next 35 years, so I'd prefer you all keep streaming until then.
	Dream on.
	Oh.
	Does he listen to it on the stream while he's driving?
	Most people these days don't even download the show.
	You just hit play and it starts to stream it live.
	The whole mechanism of podcasting is kind of outdated, really, except the organizational part of it.
	The donation is brought to you in part because I was looking through Instagram the other day, and before I knew it, I had placed $200 worth of underwear in a shopping cart.
	They got me, but thanks to the No Agenda show, I realized that before it was too late, and I went to Walmart instead.
	Here's y'all's cut of the savings.
	Apparently, he stole it from Walmart.
	Yeah, $200.
	Well, we appreciate that.
	Thank you very much.
	Saved again from bogative undies.
	Sir Tim of the Tunnels in Waipahu.
	Waipahu.
	That would be it, I think.
	$200, Hawaii.
	First off, damn those puppies.
	Damn them to Hades.
	Okay, now that that's out of the way, here's my...
	I had a couple of dogs in the newsletter.
	Yeah, so...
	Sad puppies.
	Sad puppies.
	Here's my first donation for 2019.
	Can I please get a de-douching?
	You've been de-douched.
	Hopefully those pathetic pooches have a similar effect on others and for those heartless bastards that still don't donate.
	What is wrong with you?
	Noah Jen is one of the few voices in the wilderness helping you keep your amygdala to a manageable size.
	Douchebags!
	The lot of ya!
	Call them out as such.
	He wants a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Okay, that's my tie-ray.
	Can I please get a goat foamer and karma for all?
	Oh, a goat foamer.
	Yes, I think we have...
	I was just a regular foamer.
	No, we need some goats!
	Oh my god!
	Woo!
	Listen to that goat!
	You've got karma.
	I forget about that one.
	That's a good one.
	David Boswell in Georgetown, Texas.
	$200.
	He'll be our last associate executive producer.
	I send encouragement.
	No sad puppies.
	To you both, I wish you well-deserved karma.
	Keep trusting in value for value, people.
	Also, looking forward to the Austin meetup.
	Yee-haw!
	We're having ourselves a meetup!
	Texas style!
	Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.
	Saturday, March 2nd, Austin, Texas.
	Noah J. Gavita, Austin, Texas.
	Happy Austin Beer Works.
	Saturday, March 2nd.
	Come pay respect to the pot father and thank him for his courage.
	Come get jiggy with other like-minded producers.
	Remember, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.
	Saturday, March 2nd, Austin Beer Works and such.
	And he signs off as the boss.
	The boss.
	All right.
	He needed some karma, too, I believe.
	So I'll give him that.
	You've got karma.
	Outstanding.
	Well, that was a good showing.
	We want to thank all these executive and associate executive producers for really carrying the show today.
	Yeah, thank you.
	And these credits are real credits.
	They're valuable credits.
	You can use them anywhere.
	Credits, as in production credits, are recognized and appreciated, which I think we do a little bit more because we actually thank the producers in every single show.
	And we read a note from them.
	Yeah.
	Go look at the award shows.
	I mean, Chuck Lorre drops his little notes at the end of certain shows by himself, and he'd get, you know, one frame that you have to stop.
	Yeah, it's one guy who can do that.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	We honor our producers, but also our peerage here as well.
	So thank you all, and we'll be thanking more people, $50 and above, in our second segment.
	And, yes, we'll be back on Thursday with another breakdown of whatever is happening between these two shows.
	And, of course, today is a Sunday.
	Anything can happen on a show day.
	So support us for that and remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And now that you've got the lowdown on everything, you can go out there and talk to the water cooler and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	So my interest in 5G has been reparked a little bit.
	Perked up a little.
	Okay.
	And, well, there's a couple of reasons why.
	I probably wouldn't even have gotten this far into it if two things hadn't happened.
	Um...
	The first being your actual deplatforming from a publishing platform known as PC Magazine, which initially was thought that you were just unceremoniously let go after 35 years of relationship just via email.
	Like, yeah, you old coot, we don't care about you anyway.
	That was kind of the thinking.
	Except, the article, the last column you wrote...
	Well, actually, it wasn't the last column.
	It was a couple of columns earlier.
	Which makes it even more egregious.
	Well, please explain what happened, because it happened to you, and I'm just paraphrasing.
	Yeah, I wrote a column, and then a few weeks went by, and then I got fired.
	I put on hiatus or whatever.
	De-platformed.
	De-platformed.
	I got de-platformed.
	And nobody says anything.
	They never communicated with me.
	And then I noticed, just coincidentally, because I was downloading some of my old columns to consolidate them in a book, that this one column was missing and was replaced by another column by somebody else about the same topic.
	Except?
	Well, except my column was talking about the problems that 5G may have in the future because there's a lot of people digging up health concerns.
	Aha!
	And the other column was just, no, 5G's great!
	Yes.
	And so I got suspicious.
	Made me very suspicious.
	So I... Over the weekend, a very odd video came out.
	And it was kind of sandwiched in between some other typical Infowars stuff in a single YouTube video.
	And it was a production meeting with the Seedman, Senor Seedman, Alex Jones.
	And I think I could hear one of the producers who I know is in the meeting.
	Maybe one other guy.
	It's just voices.
	And it's kind of...
	At first it was hard to believe, like, is this really a production meeting?
	It sounds just like Jones sounds when he's talking on the air.
	But then I compared it to how he's talking today on the air, and he's, I mean, he's unlistenable, unwatchable.
	He's just, he's so insane.
	Mostly.
	So I'm listening to this, and it was about the movie Bird Box.
	Are you familiar with this movie, the Sandra Bullock movie?
	There's a lot of chatter on the trades.
	And online about this movie.
	I have not jumped into this to know anything about what's going on.
	What is the chatter on the train?
	It's just minor chatter about this movie.
	I wasn't paying enough attention to tell you anything.
	So I'd seen it.
	I'd heard about it.
	I think I'd seen some chatter.
	No, this is something I'm not interested in at all.
	Yeah, there you go.
	That was me.
	Yeah, you know why?
	It looked like a stressful movie.
	Like, you sit there, you're just going to be stressed about Sandra Bullock and the kids, and you don't look, and you're going to die.
	So we hadn't watched this.
	I wasn't going to watch this movie.
	It's a movie that shouts out to me, don't watch this movie.
	That's what it says.
	Very, very distinctly.
	That's exactly...
	Now, it is...
	I saw in the credits, I think it was like one of those award-winning directors that is beautifully shot.
	There's no doubt about how well it's made.
	And, you know, Sandy Bullock, we get to say that in Austin.
	Sandy, she...
	Oh, that's right.
	She's an Estonian.
	Yeah, she's an executive producer on the movie.
	And, you know, so it looked great.
	But I was just like, yeah, just like you said, it's like something...
	This looks stressful.
	I don't need to see this, you know, on the river in a rowboat in the rapids.
	I don't like it.
	So then I'm listening to this, and it's just a black screen as Jones is talking in this production meeting, and then they do switch to other visuals, so it's clearly produced afterwards.
	But I pulled about a minute and a half from it.
	Everybody kept talking about that, quote, stupid movie, Sandra Bullock, Bird Box, Bird Box, and no one knowing what it was about.
	And I sat there this morning on the elliptical and started watching it ten minutes into what it was.
	Well, they call it dumb, it's silly, it's all designed for a sequel.
	And before I even finished the movie, I went and did a guess what the synopsis was.
	I even told Pat Riley, I said, wait a minute, you know it's cell phones that have gone in and triggered people.
	But it's an electrical manipulation of the brain.
	Like a person's following a map like the Pokemon game to kill themselves.
	But what do you do once the power grid goes down?
	A certain percentage of people are going to end up being killers and crazy only half-cooked, believing would the program cleanse the earth.
	And Pat's like, how do you know that's the movie?
	Because I fucking know the enemy's operations.
	And they're saying it all to our face, man.
	Dude, we've got to go to the microfilm and find the Baltimore Sun.
	1999.
	They did a DARPA article admitting they were testing cell phones to calm the public.
	Cell phone towers.
	No, I mentioned it to him before.
	I said, Bird Box is the cell phone.
	That's the radiation tower.
	So you already have known it.
	Well, no, when you mentioned it, I'm like, that totally makes sense.
	Because I saw the movie, too.
	I watched the movie and the girl's on the cell phone and she starts beating her head on the wall.
	And it shows everybody's on them and it shows the phone rings.
	That's like the trigger.
	Yeah.
	You're saying, well, where's the phone?
	It's everywhere.
	It's 5G.
	All right.
	So this goes on for quite a while.
	But it was a very interesting point because we've looked into the dangers of 5G and what's there.
	And I'll get to that in a second.
	But what he was saying, and so I watched the movie after I heard his entire theory about this is a metaphor, and as you know, because he's seen the documents, the elites always like to tell you what they're doing.
	It has something to do with Beelzebub and the devil, and they have to tell you what they're doing.
	They have to tell you exactly what they're doing.
	The truth has to come out.
	And so when you look at the movie, and so spoiler alert, if you look at this movie after having heard this about the 5G, it does indeed seem that people who are on their phone a lot in the movie are the first ones to go once they see this invisible thing and then they want to kill themselves it does indeed seem that people who are on their phone a lot in the movie
	And it becomes interesting in the context of 5G when you think about the grid that is going to be built throughout all our cities that, you know, These high frequencies, I think they're talking about over 45 gigahertz for the U.S., Those frequencies can actually hurt you.
	I'm a licensed amateur professional.
	I love saying that.
	Licensed amateur radio professional.
	I do know a little bit about radio frequency.
	You know it as well, John.
	It can burn.
	There is hazard.
	I've had high frequency, like 100 watts around me.
	I'm like, I don't feel very good.
	Turn off the transmitter.
	Something's wrong with the antenna or I'm just too close.
	Interestingly, these microwaves, do you know where they penetrate the fastest on the human body?
	You're talking about this particular frequency?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Now what?
	The testicles and the area under the eyes.
	The soft skin under the eyes.
	So what Jones is saying is that it's a metaphor for the future where we will, and it's not the towers themselves.
	They're all going to end up looking like Jamie Raskin?
	Yeah.
	Yes!
	And it's not the towers themselves.
	It's the handset.
	Because you're looking at the handset and you're effectively radiating right into the soft part of your skull, the eyes.
	And he says it's like a binary thing.
	So you have your phone.
	Your phone has mushed your brain.
	And then when the 5G signal cloud comes over, then you start to commit suicide.
	So in light of that theory...
	Let's go back to May.
	When did you write the article, the article about 5G? Do you remember?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	I think it was October.
	So that was pretty recent.
	Yeah, it was recent.
	When was I fired?
	I don't remember.
	Maybe it was...
	I think it was before that.
	I could look it up, but it was after the summer.
	Well, I went back and just pulled a random report about the dangers of 5G. Interestingly, if you're looking for a mainstream M5M report about any dangers of 5G, you're not going to find it.
	You're going to find it months ago.
	So this is the most recent one I could find that was from a mainstream...
	There's tons of videos and testimony of people saying it's dangerous, but this is a mainstream report.
	This is CBS This Morning from May 2nd.
	At a lab in New York, Verizon invited us to meet some of the entrepreneurs developing tools to run on the next generation of wireless technology.
	How important is 5G to your mission?
	5G is extremely important.
	Jonathan Reeves demonstrated his product, Arvizio.
	As you move around, the object stays fixed in space.
	Look at that.
	By the way, you'll love this report because the danger is kind of sandwiched in between all this fantastic stuff that we don't need at all.
	He's walking around a 3D object.
	Thanks, 5G. I've got 3D. That's amazing.
	Allowing users in different locations to interact with 3D images projected through a lens.
	Today we can do this using Wi-Fi technology and we can do it using landline technology.
	But of course you're then tied to particular locations.
	With 5G now we can begin to extend this so we can actually begin to start doing this on building sites.
	We can start doing it on the factory floor.
	So this guy is actually saying we need this desperately so that we can have augmented and virtual reality on building sites.
	Sounds priority to me, Chief.
	So it really opens up a whole new world.
	But before this world can become reality, this one needs to change.
	5G requires the installation of new equipment across the U.S. So this pole here is 5G. This is the future right here.
	You got it.
	Every wireless company is working to build its own 5G network.
	Melissa Arnoldi leads AT&T's efforts.
	If you don't already have one of these in your neighborhood, they're coming.
	That's absolutely right.
	They're coming.
	She says 5G uses high-frequency waves that support faster speeds but don't travel as far as current wireless frequencies.
	So instead of relying on large cell phone towers spread far apart, they need small cell sites that are much closer together.
	We're going to use our existing infrastructure today, whether it's light poles, whether it's street lights.
	We're going to make sure that we don't make it obtrusive to our customers and to the citizens.
	Yet some don't share the enthusiasm.
	The cell towers are called small cell towers, but they're not so small when they're in your front yard.
	Donna Barron is protesting plans to convert light poles in her Montgomery County, Maryland neighborhood into small cell sites.
	This will cause cancer.
	She was one of several people who raised health concerns at a government hearing last month.
	This stuff is untested on kids.
	Their safety is not certain These untested technologies are, at this time, not ready to be unleashed into our lives.
	Cell phone equipment emits radiation, but research on its health effects has been inconsistent.
	According to the National Cancer Institute, a limited number of studies have shown some evidence of statistical association of cell phone use and brain tumor risks.
	But most studies have found no association.
	Arnoldi insists her workers are focused on safety, pointing out they live and work near this equipment.
	Do you have any 5G antennae in your neighborhood yet?
	No, not yet.
	I'm waiting for it.
	I'm waiting for it.
	It's coming soon, though.
	It's coming soon.
	So I'm guessing from that reaction, then, you're very comfortable with it rolling out in your neck of the woods.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Wireless carriers have announced plans to roll out 5G service to a handful of cities later this year, but don't get too excited to really take advantage.
	You'll need a 5G-enabled device, which probably won't be available until next year.
	So our current phones aren't 5G ready?
	They are not 5G ready.
	The pole outside your house might be 5G ready, but your phone is not.
	It's going to have to upgrade.
	Yes, exactly.
	Going to have to upgrade.
	That's what it's about.
	So, knowing that this, and we've talked about this, 5G is at this point Touted by everybody in Silicon Valley as we cannot live without 5G. Life today, and I'll tell you why.
	Everyone is using this as an excuse in either their Ponzi scheme or their failing business model.
	Two examples.
	Uber.
	Uber tried to raise a couple of other billion dollars about a year ago.
	We talked about it with their Uber drone, the flying car, and oh yeah, it's great.
	Of course, no one buys into that bullshit, so that didn't work.
	And then, oh, I'm sorry, we killed people with our experiments, so...
	Yeah, once we have 5G, oh, it'll be great.
	We'll know within milliseconds.
	There's no jitter, no...
	Wow and flutter.
	There's no wow and flutter.
	It'll be perfect.
	Cars will talk to each other.
	We'll have smart cities!
	We'll have buses without drivers.
	It's going to be fantastic.
	And who...
	Who is saying negative things about 5G? He was doing it when 4G came out.
	It's Alex Jones.
	Who was the first company to deplatform Alex Jones?
	Apple.
	Apple.
	And why?
	Because Tim Cook knows that that is the only way he's going to save his company.
	He needs everybody to upgrade to the next iPhone with the 5G radios.
	And there's a real race on.
	So he deplatformed.
	It was very odd.
	It was out of left field.
	It has nothing to do with what Jones is saying, except what he's saying about 5G. We cannot have that.
	They're railroading it through.
	PC Magazine, who I'm pretty sure is just taking money from Silicon Valley companies, whether it's in advertising or not, I'm sure it's very plausible that someone went, 5G is a really interesting thing.
	We need to have this, and we really can't have any negativity around it right now.
	And that's why you get reports like this from the millennials when it comes to 5G right after CES. The latest on 5G, and I guess the question would be that.
	Here's the setup.
	Is there a catch?
	There is.
	Just a small one.
	It might kill you.
	Good to know.
	Well, a few days ago, actually, a group of scientists, doctors, environmental organizers, and concerned citizens got together and they called for the urgent stop to the deployment of 5G. They said that it's been proven harmful to human bodies, that this is an experiment on humanity, and that this should be called a crime under international law.
	Let's talk about today's technology, what we have going on today.
	Your phone is constantly sending electromagnetic...
	Magnetic fields in and out of each other, whether or not you're receiving a notification right now.
	All of our digital tech sends this data back and forth, right, using these invisible microwave radiation signals, a.k.a.
	radiofrequency radiation.
	That's today's tech.
	We have every cell tower, every router constantly pulsing with radiation, whether or not you're using it.
	Science shows that this causes DNA damage, cancer, among other things.
	But don't take my word for it.
	And that's just with 4G. That's just with today's technology.
	Before we get to 5G, right now you've got some of it, but not that much.
	If 4G is already doing some of this, how much more potentially dangerous will 5G be and why?
	Well, here's what's really dangerous about 5G. I mean, it's being sold to us as super awesome.
	You know, your toaster can talk to your door lock.
	It can talk to your self-driving car.
	Like you have a thermostat in your home that knows when you're home.
	You have these smart homes.
	Like it just really sold us as being awesome.
	But the downside is that with this rollout, it will be impossible to exist in a city or to walk outside without being exposed.
	There's going to be a cell tower in front of every few houses.
	And this means that your personal choices, whether or not you personally use a cell phone or hold it 10 inches away from your head, that cannot escape you from your radiation exposure.
	So don't go looking for this on CBS or NBC. Yeah, I can tell you.
	It was Rick Sanchez.
	You're listening to RT. It was RT. Yeah, of course.
	Yeah.
	It was RT. But I happen to agree.
	I agree.
	I agree, too.
	And I think that reporting should be more generalized.
	So there's one last thing to look at.
	This tariffs and ZTE, this may not be just about tariffs.
	There is a real race going on for who is going to build out and really utilize the 5G network first.
	I mean, China...
	According to sources, is investing $400 billion in 5G. In fact, when Verizon bought their spectrum for, what, something like $7 billion, there was almost no haggling.
	You know why?
	The Chinese lent them the money.
	So are we now going to have Chinese Huawei and ZTE devices every, you know, 150 yards?
	Is it going to be in every single phone radiating us?
	I mean, it could either be a spy grid issue, could be a cybersecurity issue.
	That would be one way of stopping it.
	Or, you know, what if the Chinese just flip a switch and fry all our brains?
	Well, the thing I'd like to know, the little devices that are, you know, they've been shown outside of England, there's a bunch of poles, and there's a bunch of, they're testing.
	And so you've got these little transmitters at the top of each of these poles.
	It's a little 5G transmitter.
	They don't go very far.
	They won't, they can barely penetrate, like I was talking to some expert on this.
	Yeah, they can't even go through a wall, really.
	They can't really go through a wall, but they can if you really amp them up.
	The power, yep.
	And I wonder what the variation of the power...
	On these things, because the device that is used by the military, these millimeter wave devices that are used by the military, is that skin-burning device.
	They fry you from a distance.
	They get this big antenna, and then they just send these beams at you, and then it feels like you're on fire.
	It's very annoying to the epidermis.
	Your pores actually act as an antenna array at those frequencies.
	And so is it possible to crank up these – say you have one of these poles every 50 feet, let's say, or 100 feet, and each one's got the little thing on top.
	I'd like to know what the range of power is on that thing.
	Are they going at some milliamps?
	I'm sorry, a watt, milliwatt, a watt, two watts, 100 watts?
	What if it was going at – can it do 5,000 watts of power?
	Yeah.
	I mean, how much juice do these things can they pump out?
	I'd like to know.
	Nobody talks about any of this stuff.
	It's great.
	You can see.
	You can have smart roads.
	And by the way, let's look at the logic of the smart road thing that you brought up, which is, okay, I got these 5G antennas everywhere in my little car.
	I'm driving around my driverless car.
	And it's now – and somebody jumps out.
	How does the – what difference does it make if somebody jumps out in front of this car?
	Whether there's 5G in the area or not, unless they're tracking everybody.
	No, wait!
	The part you're forgetting, which I think everyone is focused on the wrong thing, the towers is one thing.
	It's not about the towers.
	It's the fucking 5G microwave frying device you're putting in front of your face all day.
	I know, I understand that, but I'm not talking about that at all.
	So if you have the 5G radio in your phone, you're part of the grid, so they would know, I guess, if you're walking towards the vehicle, technically.
	I don't have a phone in my pocket.
	Well, no, you're going to be dead.
	You don't belong in the grid.
	You run over by one of these things is what you're saying.
	Yeah, you don't belong in the grid.
	Yeah, well, there you go.
	But it's less about...
	That's just what they're using as a scam.
	The whole thing is a Ponzi scheme.
	This is not going to make autonomous cars drive any safer in your and my lifetime.
	I don't see how it could.
	That's the point I'm trying to make.
	Because it's not about that.
	It's about another scam.
	Why do people listen to these arguments and go, okay, okay, okay.
	Because...
	Well, go look at all the media reports, because when someone says something negative, they get deplatformed.
	So the only news out there is positive.
	Well, I'm buying into your idea that Apple deplatformed Alex Jones for this particular reason.
	Yes.
	Because it makes more sense than anything else.
	And, of course, the other guys just followed suit because they're, you know...
	Whatever.
	Yeah.
	But it kind of leads into a bigger question.
	How much control is Silicon Valley really exerting?
	For instance, let's take it back to the wall.
	I'm pretty sure there's no argument about the wall.
	The difference in the wall is Trump wants a physical barrier and Pelosi and Chuck...
	They want an electronic wall.
	You know, it's like a Silicon Valley tracking type system.
	It's money for them.
	That's a good point.
	I mean, and there's a lot of that.
	Oh, we need $800 billion for tech at the ports of entry.
	Where's that coming from?
	It's coming from Silicon Valley.
	So they may have a lot more power.
	And, you know, come on.
	We listen to the Congress people talk to the face bag and the tweeter people.
	They don't know jack shit about how anything works.
	They're going to, oh, well, 5G. Don't worry.
	It's safe.
	Look, here's our guy.
	Oh, it's safe.
	Okay, fine.
	Every report on the news, it's safe.
	What's your problem?
	The National Institute of Health, and I put a whole bunch of links in the show notes, nashownotes.com.
	That's on PubMed.
	It's the NIH.gov website has a study that says, yeah, this stuff can be dangerous.
	It can mess with your body and your DNA. It says it in their own reporting.
	So this, to me, is more egregious than almost anything happening right now.
	I'm not going to put my face near any of this stuff.
	Oh, definitely.
	And that's based on my experience with it.
	I don't necessarily have experience with microwave frequencies, but I know enough about UHF, VHF, and I know where the dangers are.
	And I've been burned by...
	You got an RF burn?
	Of course I have.
	Any self-respecting ham has burned himself with RF. Yeah, and it sucks.
	Yeah.
	But I've also felt like, whoa, when I was using the loop a lot, you pump 50 watts through a loop tuned at one particular frequency and you're sticking your head in it, you can feel it.
	And that's it.
	We're just talking, what are we talking there, 20 megahertz.
	Yeah.
	I am hoping that we have some producers who may be able to give us more information on your questions.
	I looked.
	There's no real standard yet, and I'm looking, okay, what's the power output of these radios?
	And I'm more interested in the handset than anything.
	Well, the handset's a definite no-go as far as I'm concerned.
	Because, you know, in a handset, even if you're holding it wrong and you have your hand around the antennas, this is well known with microwaves that your finger can block it.
	Your finger can block the signal.
	So, where are my IEEE buddies?
	Who's got the inside track on this?
	Well, let's hope that there's a story written five or ten years from now saying, what a fiasco 5G was.
	Too bad those Curry and Dvorak died from it before we could give them the medal.
	They got deplatformed by the government.
	They got deplatformed, exactly.
	Oh, man.
	All right, well, that's a good report.
	I enjoyed that.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for picking up the gauntlet.
	And take a look at this movie, if you feel like it, with different eyes.
	We had a conversation this morning.
	I was like, you know, the metaphor is kind of there, even though not necessarily with 5G, but cell phones, people are killing themselves at a higher rate.
	And there is a direct correlation between young female suicide and face bag, or Instagram specifically.
	Yeah.
	So it's not that far off.
	You know, people are depressed and committing suicide from their phones.
	Maybe we just need to add a little 5G radiation to push everyone over the edge.
	Yeah, there's population control.
	There's your binary.
	You know, you get depressed from the content.
	The radiation takes care of the rest.
	So, of course, I was looking for another exit premium.
	You know, an amulet or something that could channel away the 5G energy.
	But, of course, this doesn't really exist.
	Crystals.
	5G crystals.
	That's right.
	No agenda 5G crystals will save your life from 5G signals.
	Or maybe just a simple armband that lights up when there's too much 5G around you.
	That would be cool.
	And that's pretty inexpensive to make.
	That's not a bad idea.
	Yeah, you could just be, okay, I got red here on my band.
	Use it on weaving into fashion so people can wear a fashionable dress.
	And so when the dress just lights up and there's all kinds of cool stuff because there's too many phones in the area.
	That's one of the few times you've agreed with my exit strategy premium items.
	I've always thought that wearable displays of LEDs and things flashing around were always cool.
	Years ago, I think it was in the 90s, I went to China and they were selling this stuff on the street.
	I've always thought it was just a dynamite idea.
	Once in a while, it sneaks into the fashion shows, but it hasn't totally caught on.
	Well, this should be actually quite easy to produce if we just create a little element that has the right length that it would fire up.
	Just like any kind of magnetic loop, it'll resonate and it can throw off a little electricity, maybe enough to light something up on a band.
	Yeah?
	All right.
	I will be in the lab.
	We have engineers out there that can help us.
	Of course there's going to be some douche who already did this.
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	So let's listen to some, let's get back to our, we had the shutdown, the government shutdown.
	We don't make a point of talking about it too much, but I did get a kick out of this.
	This is the food stamps people...
	You know, food stamps are an issue because they have to be...
	You have to be a licensed retailer to take...
	It's a debit card now.
	Yeah, it's the SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Access Program, I think.
	Yeah, and so the...
	Here's a report, and I want you to listen to the millennial girl who's a Trump hater who comes on.
	They bring her on PBS because she's so knowledgeable.
	And of course, Judy or nobody really goes after her for what she says, which is egregious the way I see it.
	But let's play.
	This is Shut Down Food Stamps, a crummy millennial clip.
	With the government shutdown now on the seventh day, many federal programs have been affected, including food stamps.
	So far, there is no major lapse in benefits used by nearly 39 million people each month.
	That's because of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
	It found a way to pay SNAP benefits, as they are called, earlier than normal.
	February benefits awarded through a debit-style card used at stores are being paid out this week.
	Several states, including California and Florida, are warning users to be careful and make sure they manage to make the money last longer.
	For 2,500 retailers, the problem is already here.
	That's because those stores needed to renew a license for the electronic benefit transfer, or EBT debit card program and they fail to meet a deadline before the shutdown.
	Those renewals required every five years are on hold.
	Sarah Jackson is an employee at one store in Northern Arkansas.
	We have been completely unable to take any SNAP EBT payments.
	Rochery stores need a license to process EBT payments.
	And ours expired and was unable to be renewed on schedule because of the government shutdown.
	Because of an argument about a wall, I have to look people in the eyes every day and tell them that they can't pay for their food.
	For their children's food.
	Sarah Jackson in Arkansas.
	We reached out to the U.S. Department of Agriculture for a response.
	A spokesperson wrote back, quote, over 99 percent of SNAP retailers are able to accept benefits as usual.
	There is a small percentage of stores that fail to complete a required reauthorization process that was due on December 21st.
	These stores can take steps to update their status once funding is restored, end quote.
	All right.
	So the millennial, first off, the millennial blames Trump.
	And the way she says it, we're unable to do this because of this and that.
	The fact is, and Judy could have pointed this out to this woman, the last day that you could do the five-year renewal was December 21st.
	You had to have your paperwork in by then.
	You would have gotten your license.
	The government shutdown began on December 22nd.
	Oh man, you are a sleuth!
	So this woman's moaning and groaning about how they have to look people in the eye and talk about the wall is bullcrap.
	They didn't do their job to renew their license on time.
	What, yes.
	What irks me is that there's, there is a lot of talk about how sad this is that It's sad.
	It's horrible.
	It's sad.
	800,000 people.
	They will eventually get paid, so it's definitely a hardship.
	But I never hear this about, I don't know, The hundreds of thousands of homeless everywhere?
	I never hear that about the food bank and EBT and SNAP and food stamp.
	Never hear this about the homeless.
	Screw them.
	They're off the reservation.
	We don't care.
	Where is that in the reporting?
	It's never there.
	No, it isn't.
	And the thing that somebody did do a report on this.
	I don't have any clips, but I will mention it.
	And I thought it was like kind of creepy and it brings us back to the other moment.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Troll room just had it right.
	Of course, the homeless don't vote.
	That's why they're not important.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes, continue.
	Is that...
	It's becoming apparent to a lot of sociologists and observers, because this homeless situation is completely off the rails.
	It's ridiculous.
	Around here, there's tent cities.
	All we're missing are the shanty towns that are permanent, which is going to happen, probably starting around Berkeley.
	San Francisco should have them.
	Favela.
	Well, favelas are, yes, a favela.
	They might as well call them favelas.
	Favelas are a little more advanced than a shantytown that you find outside of some of these areas like in Africa.
	Because they have mayors and stuff.
	The favelas have cement buildings.
	It's an unincorporated mess.
	They have a ruling elite and a lot of criminals.
	The highest form of shantytown is a favela.
	But that's where we're headed, obviously, because somebody pointed out that the way things are going with the The job market and the less of a need for middle-class workers putting manufacturing in China and not doing any here anymore because the profiteers don't care about the workers, as you mentioned on the show recently.
	Who cares?
	Who gives a shit?
	We're getting a class of people who are being defined as irrelevant.
	Yeah.
	And the idea that you have a complete class of people within your society that are irrelevant, they have – there's nothing relevant about them.
	they can do to get back into the scheme of things.
	Yeah.
	They are out of the picture.
	They're irrelevant and they're never going to be relevant because we're not moving in that direction anymore.
	We're moving to robots.
	Yeah.
	And so you end up with this underclass that is never existed in this country before because nobody was in the past in the 50s and 60s when we had factories in Oakland, there wasn't anybody that was irrelevant.
	Yeah.
	Everybody could get a job if they wanted to, and they would get housing, which was somewhat taken away by some of Carter's actions, the housing situation.
	And now that millennials have been sold a bill of goods, they're being pushed into irrelevancy if they can get them there by bullcrapping them with Items online, and I've seen one report, but some millennial guy, here's why you should never buy a house.
	And he goes on and on about why you should never buy a house.
	It's idiotic.
	And the National Mortgage News, which I subscribe to, believe it or not, had a big report out saying, why aren't millennials buying houses?
	And it turns out that the research indicates that most millennials who are deeply in debt already have Believe it takes 20% down payment to get into a mortgage.
	That has been jammed into their heads, I'm sure.
	It's been jammed into their heads to keep them out of the market, when in fact, the mortgage news will point this out, that if you do things right, you can get a mortgage with a 3.5% down payment.
	So the whole thing is this giant scheme to create an irrelevant class that can be moved aside, pushed into the favelas, the shantytowns, wherever they're going to end up.
	It's going to be like a third world country and there's nobody doing anything about it.
	And you're mentioning that nobody talks about the homeless anymore in these situations that the government shut down is just another good example.
	This is dire.
	And it's really interesting that I will say Obama did a lot more for these people.
	He really did.
	Because he didn't just leave them irrelevant.
	Obama!
	Yes!
	Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama's phone.
	Keep Obama in president, you know?
	He gave everyone an Obama phone.
	Everyone was happy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He got them an Obama phone.
	That's true.
	Well, we're going to give them a 5G phone next.
	That's actually pretty good.
	The homeless guys, you know, they can keep nice and warm underneath the 5G towers on the street.
	It's going to be great.
	It is kind of a program, I guess.
	So in this regard, we're screwed and nobody's addressing it.
	Nobody cares.
	Oh, they care about...
	Oh, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
	Yeah, what a moron.
	You can't believe they're deacons in the White House.
	You guys aren't deconstructing.
	You used to deconstruct the government.
	All right, I'll deconstruct the government.
	You know, the people in the government, they have to go to the food banks in D.C. President Trump responded to Pelosi's power move with uncharacteristic silence, but lawmakers made plenty of noise.
	Democrats have made a marketing decision to obstruct President Trump at all costs.
	I want President Trump to look into these faces.
	As Americans increasingly turn to one another.
	They can grab some non-perishable goods for the time they need some help.
	Eggs for the masses.
	Restaurants and food banks are helping people put food on the table.
	I mean, who can't...
	Pass up mac and cheese.
	Living from the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Alright, let's thank a few people here.
	Thank a few people for the show.
	11.05.
	I keep saying 10.
	11.05.
	Starting with Anonymous, $150.
	Monica Kidwell in Floyd's Nobs.
	Floyd's Nobs, Indiana.
	Floyd's Nobs.
	It's a great town.
	Floyd's Nobs.
	Floyd's Nobs, 133.33.
	Stephen E. Taft in Marietta, Georgia, 12321.
	Gregory Zayachuk.
	Hold on a second.
	Stephen E. Tab, just a little something to help out Sir Steve, Baron of the Gold Branch Trail.
	A little karma for my surgery on Monday would be appreciated.
	We'll do that in a moment for you, for sure.
	Gregory Zayachuk, 11919.
	Hey, Mount Kisco.
	I used to be there.
	That's right near...
	Mount Kisco.
	That's right near...
	We used to go to the Zales in Mount Kisco.
	Just saying.
	Sales.
	Sales.
	A little business.
	Yeah, sure.
	The silver dude, the silver dude, $119.19.
	So we got a lot of $119.19, which was the commemorative, it meant you were, it was for the date, it was $119.19.
	But if you're in Europe, it would have been $119.19.
	Yes.
	And we got not one European donation.
	Thanks, Europe.
	All the Americans took part.
	So America wins again.
	The Silver Dude won 1919.
	Ellen Eileen Sauer in Muskegon, Michigan.
	She always finds a show of value.
	My husband Drew turned me on to you.
	He's been listening for a long time and needs to be called out as a douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	Please, don't give up!
	Well, eventually we'll have to.
	Your breakdowns are informative and entertaining.
	You guys are the last of the no-holds-barred truthers.
	John Fitzpatrick, Parts Unknown.
	Go Chiefs, 119.19.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Viscount of Luna, 119.19.
	William Alston, 11919.
	And last but not least, Joanna Ortiz.
	And there's a birthday coming up for somebody.
	She says, my smoking hot boyfriend, Eric Ross, asked for a donation to the best internet broadcast in the world as a birthday gift.
	Please wish him a happy early birthday.
	He turns 35 on January 22nd.
	Yes, he's on the list.
	And how nice of you to do that.
	Yes, I agree.
	That was $119.19.
	Mark Kendall, $115.
	Aaron Burley, $100.
	He's also a first-time donor.
	He would like a deducing, we'll give him.
	You've been deduced.
	And he's a cyber security dude named Ben.
	Good.
	We need as many of you as we can get.
	Another anonymous, $100, and this is, you guys are awesome.
	Amazing!
	David Schneider, $100.
	Sir Gregory of the Brookswood in Langley, B.C., 8008, Stop the Hammering.
	Sir Daddycast of the Love House, 8008.
	Amir Toole in Calgary, Alberta, 8008.
	You two have reshaped the way I think in every aspect of life.
	I'm forever grateful.
	Lots of love, Amir.
	Aloha to you, Amir.
	Well, that's a pretty formidable thing to say.
	Ashley Wright, 73.
	Matthew Zielinski, 66.
	Oh, wait a second.
	I've got to stop here.
	Ashley Wright, she's got a birthday, but her mother, Pam Thornton from Winston-Salem, heard Sir Colin's karma success for his brain tumor recovery.
	And she was hoping for the same luck.
	Her brain surgery is on the 22nd.
	$73 is in her honor of her 73rd birthday on the 29th.
	She was an avid Rush Limbaugh listener since the 80s, and now No Agenda with Adam and John is her favorite.
	Suck it, Limbaugh!
	And she says, Love you, Mom.
	Praying for a successful surgery and a happy birthday from Ashley in Greenville, South Carolina.
	I'm going to give her the karma for that now.
	Yeah, for sure.
	You've got karma.
	We need as many 73-year-olds as we can get.
	Yeah, Limbaugh makes $400 million.
	Hey, we just saved lives.
	We don't need his money.
	Well, there's that.
	Matthew Zylinski, 6660.
	Chris Kincaid, 5510.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Wait, Matt, first donation, follow you guys around show 750.
	You should get a dedouching for this.
	You've been dedouched.
	Why not?
	Along with Chris Kincaid, Jason Petrie with Double Nickels on the Dime and Dean Roker with Double Nickels on the Dime.
	And by the way, Petrie said value for value in exchange for the chili recipe.
	Now, somebody suggested that...
	We have the chili recipe online.
	They suggest that I put it in the newsletter, or at least have a link in the newsletter, for all the people that are freezing to death in the Midwest, which I think is hurting our donations, by the way.
	No, if people can't think straight.
	And the chili recipe is available online.
	I don't know what the URL is, but you can get to it through the...
	Cosmic Weenie?
	Show notes.
	I'll have to look it up.
	Cosmic Weenie probably has it.
	I think actually if you do bingit.io, hold on a sec, I'll try now.
	That is our super, super-fied search engine.
	And we do chili recipe.
	Let's see if it pops up.
	And...
	Fail.
	No.
	Why don't you send me the link?
	I'll put it in the show notes for today.
	Okay.
	I'll get a copy.
	Good.
	All right.
	Onward.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Dean Roker's last one.
	M. Andrew Jones, Baron of America's...
	I don't know if this stretches out to see it.
	America's...
	Mountain.
	Mountain.
	America's Mountain.
	He sent a nice little card in with a drawing of the mountain.
	Oh.
	Thank you for mentioning my book, The Story of Number.
	The No Agenda Bump is Real, he says.
	Yeah, it was a fun book, The Story of Number.
	Adam, did you finish the book, he says?
	I did.
	Notice our wedding date, May 19th, 2019.
	We've taken a lot of your numerology to heart.
	We've been looking at numbers that are good for us and good for in general.
	Nice.
	Partially thanks to his book.
	So yeah, The Story of Number, you can get on Amazon.
	Chris of the Vortex Ring State comes in from Mercer, Washington.
	Mercer Island, Washington.
	That's Sir Chris.
	I just have to read his note because it was a check.
	He's a helicopter pilot.
	Yes, and he says, love the show, twice weekly, he's on Thursdays.
	Please accept this as the equivalent of $67.63 Canadian.
	Oh boy.
	No.
	No.
	It's $51.
	It's $51.
	Nice try, though, Chris.
	Thank you, Chris.
	And you should look up the YouTube videos.
	Just look for Vortex Ring State, and you'll see what he's talking about.
	Yeah.
	Brian Burgess, 5033.
	Baron Sir D.H. Slammer, our buddy down there, 50 y'all's in one cent.
	Keep the show going, he says.
	Now, the following people are $50 donors.
	Name and location, if applicable.
	Andrew Guzik in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	Jeffrey Anderson in Stewart, Florida.
	Sir Layton, Who knows?
	Sir Hummus, the Black Knight, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
	Christine Ensberg.
	Sam Godwin in San Jose.
	John Catalano.
	Brad Taylor in Duval, Washington.
	George Wuchet in Universal City, Texas.
	And that's it.
	That's all we got for the 50s.
	A little short today.
	But I want to thank everyone for helping us produce the show.
	11.05.
	And thank you to everyone who came in under $50 on our subscription plans.
	You can look up all of those at dvorak.org.
	And a reminder, we've got...
	Well, actually, a review.
	There was an Edmonton meetup, which looked like it was a fun little group there.
	It was like eight people.
	It was small.
	But they also received no promotion.
	Yeah, we'd have to help promote these things.
	You'll get a bunch of people if you...
	I'll send special mailings out for certain groups.
	So make sure you contact us for that.
	But thanks for getting that meetup going.
	That was good.
	We have the planned Des Moines, Iowa meetup, February 22nd.
	I've been following along on meetup.com.
	We're up to almost 40 people who are going to be there.
	What's interesting is they're now discussing the venue.
	And since you've done a couple of meetups recently, I want to get some advice from you.
	What is the best type of venue?
	Because they're talking about, oh, we'll get a room.
	I don't think a room is a good idea.
	No, no.
	You want a bar.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Tell us what we want.
	I just said it.
	What do you want?
	Okay.
	But just a bar or is it just where you can roam around?
	You want a bar with a lot of room in it.
	Yeah, not a room in the back where...
	No, no, no.
	I mean, yeah, you can do something.
	The problem is when you do a private, like it's all just...
	And everyone's sitting down and it's like...
	It's not good.
	You want it to be a cocktail party-like atmosphere, but you don't have enough, you know, you get 40 people, so you want a bar, and hopefully a bar that serves some food so people can drink more.
	Yes.
	And, you know, the one we did in Sacramento, which was a pretty much last-minute one, It was not real last minute like the one in Berkeley.
	It was a big bar that's a huge place that was in the old town and we could have had another double the size.
	We didn't get a reservation.
	I didn't bother because the place was too big.
	I already checked it out.
	I did a site check.
	Then the one at Berkeley is pretty much the same thing.
	It was a brewery that had enough room for probably 50 people just roaming around.
	The only time we had a problem, the one in Seattle, we tried to do reservations.
	It was a fiasco.
	The one in Oakland was a bar, a big giant place that should have no problem dealing with us, but they didn't like that we had a big group.
	We had like 40 plus people.
	Oh, they're racist.
	And there were just a bunch of creeps there, and so we didn't do another event there.
	Yeah.
	That's what I like.
	Now, the one we did in Los Angeles, I don't want to belabor this point, but that was with Eric.
	We had everybody down at Disneyland.
	We had a bunch of everybody.
	Oh, we got to have reservations.
	Yes, that's the mistake.
	That's what you don't want.
	You don't want to book a room.
	Well, they have to have minimum...
	50 people that won't open.
	Screw it.
	We don't want that.
	We just want to...
	Find a bar that can hold a lot of people and all you do is bring your people in and jam it full.
	I mean, what are they going to do?
	Complain about the extra business?
	I mean, we really had...
	Seattle, they were a little bit bitchy.
	Oh, they're in Seattle.
	But the Seattles doesn't like big crowds.
	With small batch.
	But in Sacramento, there was a good case.
	We had almost 50 people and it was no problem.
	Because the bar was big.
	You find a big bar.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	That's very helpful, and please take that to heart.
	Des Moines Meetup organizers, and the third reminder, we're really going to do it this year.
	We've promised each other.
	By the way, this technique of using the big bars is like a flash mob.
	Yeah.
	Think of it in those terms.
	Yes, flash mob cocktail party.
	Yeah.
	That idea.
	And March 2nd is the big Texas meetup at the Austin Beer Works, and that will be exactly what you just prescribed.
	It's a nice space.
	The additional cool thing is that our brewmeister over there, the beer ambassador, the brew ambassador will be bringing in a food truck.
	So that we'll have something to eat.
	That's great.
	That's very cool.
	That's very cool.
	So that's...
	Okay, so there's our meetups and we'll be scheduling more as we go along.
	And again, thank you everybody for supporting the show.
	It is our value for value model, which we're extending now with face-to-face meetups.
	It's really important, particularly in these days of frying your brain with 5G. And please support us at...
	Here's the karma requests.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so much younger.
	And today is the 20th of January, 2019.
	Here's a list of birthday celebrations.
	Joshua Smith says happy birthday to his brother Justin.
	He turns the magic number 33.
	Joanna Ortiz, happy birthday to her smoking hot boyfriend Eric Ross.
	He turns 35 on the 22nd.
	In advance, happy birthday to DJ Powerboy, who'll be celebrating on the 23rd.
	Ashley writes his happy birthday to her mom, Pam Thornton, 73, on January 29th.
	And finally, Joao Alves, happy birthday to his daughter, Helena, brand new human resource, turning one years old.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here and Uncle John and Adam at the best podcast in the universe.
	And we have exactly zero knightings, damings, and title changes.
	Nothing.
	Yeah.
	That's always disappointing.
	I found that peculiar.
	By the way, I did get a chuckle, just because I see it on my thing here, that Trump is now sending out emails, and I subscribe to all of them, including Democrats, everybody.
	And the campaign is now, send a brick to Chuck and Nancy.
	And we remember these bricks because, you know, there's these companies where you can send a brick.
	Didn't the Twit do that with the brick house?
	Yeah.
	And everyone bought a brick and then they sent the brick.
	So people are actually going to see bricks showing up in the Senate, which is pretty funny.
	Send a brick.
	Send a brick to Chuck and Nancy.
	Way to go.
	Let's see.
	Oh, yes.
	Just for us, since we kind of floated past our donation segment.
	You know, podcasting is the hot new thing, John.
	Well, there was recently, we kind of got left out of the Dax Shepard, Jonathan Van Ness.
	They went big at the first ever iHeartRadio Podcast Awards.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, it was hosted by Charlemagne Tha, God, and Bobby Bones.
	Bobby Bones.
	Bobby Bones.
	Who is a good morning DJ? Bobby Bones!
	Bobby Bones!
	And also Mario Lopez and Holly Fry were there.
	On a night celebrating the best podcast of the year encompassing true crime, comedy, food, fitness, sports, and music topics, some big Hollywood names came out on top!
	Gee, you wonder why!
	At the first ever iHeartRadio Podcast Awards.
	This is like, you know what reminds me of what's that porn operation that they do all the, they produce most of the porn movies and they do their own awards.
	Yeah, it's the Adult Video Awards.
	Who are those guys called?
	I used to live near them in L.A. Why do we not know the name?
	One for the best breakout podcast for a show, Armchair Expert.
	He joked with the competition during his acceptance.
	Vivid.
	That's it.
	Vivid.
	Yeah, Vivid.
	Vivid Entertainment.
	Thanks, Troll Room.
	Dr.
	Death was Rob Bullshit.
	No way our show is better than Dr.
	Death.
	Hold on now.
	Okay.
	Screw the awards.
	So CBS is now doing a report.
	Podcasting is a hot new thing.
	Bring Jane Pauly out of the closet.
	Let her talk about it.
	Oh, by the way, don't invite the man who had anything to do with it.
	That's okay.
	I'm bigger than that.
	You already blew your wad when you said Michael Jackson may have been murdered.
	That was on NBC. They put you on a blacklist, man.
	You're doomed.
	But I just wanted to...
	So we know how this works.
	We have...
	You and I... So forget podcasting.
	For 11 years, you and I have developed a value-for-value model, and it's feeding to families.
	I think anyone who's doing a podcast will be happy with that.
	Hey, I'm doing this full-time.
	I'm able to do it because I make enough to feed my family.
	And that is the future, by the way, of all media.
	And pay the bills.
	That's the same thing.
	Feed the family, pay the bills.
	Yeah, you got to pay for the service.
	That is the future of media.
	I always tell people this.
	They say, what are you doing?
	What's your model?
	And I say, well, the first thing you do is you don't start hiring people.
	Some of these shows.
	Stop.
	Stop right there.
	Stop.
	Sorry, I choked.
	Say that again, the last bit you said.
	The important part of our model.
	Stop hiring people.
	These shows, they're overloaded with, they got a producer and an engineer and a gaffer.
	They got all these people.
	What is the point?
	Can't you just do this yourself?
	We're talking about, you know, some gear, a microphone.
	Hold that thought.
	Yeah, so we run this show.
	When I work with Horowitz, We don't have an engineer.
	Horowitz uses the same model.
	He produces the show.
	I was producing it originally, but he likes to produce.
	And he's faster than me.
	And he produces the show, and it gets sent up to one of the systems that distributes.
	Alright, so here is a CBS report.
	They roll out Jane Pauly.
	I think it's Jane Pauly.
	And it's, oh, podcasting is the hot thing.
	So they send their tech guy, David Pogue.
	We all know David Pogue.
	Oh, yeah.
	Master podcaster.
	So he's going to go out to one of these podcast networks, you know, the ones who are creating the future.
	I mean, this report was done about our company.
	13, 14 years ago.
	It's the same...
	You thought about Mevio.
	Yes.
	Well, Podshow at the time.
	No, Podshow.
	Yeah.
	And remember what we just talked about.
	You cannot do this in your traditional NPR type way.
	You can't get enough advertising.
	And I'll mention this.
	There's no reason to do it.
	There was a reason in the old days you needed engineers because you needed all this stuff in the past.
	Now with all the new gear and the little devices and the internet, you don't need all this extra.
	Baggage.
	It's official.
	Podcast pandemonium is definitely a thing.
	Woo!
	With David Pogue, we listen up.
	Quiet, please.
	In exactly 15 seconds, we'll be on the air.
	You may have heard people refer to the 1930s and 40s as the golden age of radio.
	Well, today we're living in the golden age of podcasts.
	Woo!
	Old Spuddy make that chewy gooey like a bowl of Stewie Taboo.
	Peter had all the makings of a modern man.
	A podcast is like a pre-recorded radio show that you can listen to on your phone as you commute, do errands, cook, or work out.
	Podcasts are available on demand.
	So in the same way you can go watch Netflix shows anytime you want, you can listen to our podcast anytime you want.
	Alex Blumberg and Matt Lieber are the co-founders of Gimlet Media, which they hope to build into the HBO of podcast studios.
	Its 120 employees produce 24 podcast shows in 13 state-of-the-art recording studios.
	That was the response I wanted.
	124 employees produce, what, 37 shows?
	And they got 13 studios?
	Let's listen to that again.
	Wow, man.
	Talk about overhead.
	Who is giving them money?
	Lieber are the co-founders of Gimlet Media, which they hope to build into the HBO of podcast studios.
	Its 120 employees produce 24 podcast shows in 13 state-of-the-art recording studios.
	How many employees?
	120 employees in 24 shows.
	Yeah, that's approximately five employees or six employees a show.
	Five to six employees a show.
	John, they had pictures of meetings.
	They're in meeting rooms.
	The guy's like, all right, I'm here to do my show.
	What do we have today for the show?
	I was like, we've got six people around here talking.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, it's going to be a great show, everybody.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's so funny.
	It's not going to work.
	You're going to lose.
	I'm just here to say that's not how it will work.
	That's not the future.
	We are the future.
	We are the future.
	We are the world.
	We're closer to the future than that model.
	But that's not the only model that does it.
	I've seen other operations.
	They get a bunch of money.
	They use an old media model.
	That's the problem they're doing here.
	We're talking new media and an old media model.
	So you have an old media model, a bunch of studios, all soundproof booths with a double glass and the engineer on the other side of the glass.
	And he's watching.
	He's getting cues from the guy with the microphone and a boom, big boom, expensive boom, expensive mic.
	And they're just talking and they're signaling to each other and the guy's fading it in and out and they're recording it.
	And then when it's done, they go.
	Then they send it to post and spend a couple of days editing it.
	So it's all really clean and nice.
	And then they put some sound at the front and back.
	Dude!
	I'm in a closet.
	I'm in a closet.
	You sound as good as anybody working these other systems.
	But I'm still in a closet.
	I'm in a closet.
	I'm just sitting in my office.
	In your chaise lounge.
	In my chaise lounge.
	I got a window here with the traffic going by where I can see the trains.
	With Skype!
	Sounds fine.
	I got a very direct...
	You use a Heil PR-40...
	It's a very directional mic.
	Well, I also noise gate you, so that's my secret.
	Well, I got directional mic and you're noise gating, so we're using modern equipment to do a show with two guys and that's the way.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	But it is true.
	If you look at the amount of pre-production that we do ourselves because, you know, we don't mind working for it.
	I saw this in the Netherlands.
	When I grew up...
	You're right, because we're getting clips as opposed to our producer getting clips for us.
	So we'll spend a day or two getting clips ourselves because we know how to do it.
	And this is what's...
	I've seen this in the Netherlands.
	The first was government-controlled radio, everything gray, gray equipment.
	You had to have a technician to edit something.
	It was like union and all kinds of weird shit.
	And so eventually we became friendly and they just let us cut stuff ourselves.
	This is tape.
	We're doing reel-to-reel with razor blades and tape.
	And so we learned how to do this, and then we have a Revox at home, and you do stuff at home, and it was really out of frustration, the government overhead and booking the studio and booking a guy, and so we were doing whatever we could.
	And that model kind of was the way I always operated, but then when the commercial stations came in, and I had gone by then, I was probably already at MTV, Then the same DJs are like, oh, well, I'm going to have producers.
	This guy's going to do it.
	And the shows all start to suck.
	It all kind of devolves because you're removed from the actual process.
	If you want to be a celebrity radio host, if you want to be Bobby Bones...
	Bobby Bones!
	Bobby Bones!
	Bobby Bones is pretty good.
	I've listened to Bobby Bones.
	He's all right.
	He's a country music morning guy.
	It's good.
	What's it got to do with podcasting?
	Yeah, it's iHeartRadio.
	It was iHeart.
	They own all the stations.
	So they own his station.
	They own him.
	So, you know, there's nothing better than creating a ward and giving it to your own people.
	I mean, come on.
	Yeah, we thought about doing that with our artists.
	Right.
	So anyway, yeah, bottom line, the model, no matter how you get the money, even if you go the advertising route, which I also predict will fail time and time again, the model is you have to do it yourself.
	You have to.
	If you're on the show, you have to be doing some active work.
	You can't just show up and read the script.
	That's old school.
	When the network was closed, now it's open.
	Anyway, I thought you'd get a kick out of that.
	Yeah, thanks.
	It's very funny.
	But then we should also mention that you also, since you're doing the producing, you can drop the little jingles and snide asides and little...
	Wow!
	Yeah, I could do all kinds of cool stuff.
	You can throw that stuff in there when you feel like it and it doesn't go in after the show's over.
	For sweetening in post-production.
	Yeah, none of that.
	It's ludicrous.
	But okay, report it that way with the big studios and the 13 studios that you don't need.
	It's just old-fashioned control.
	And you think Pogue.
	Pogue knows better.
	Oh, Pogue.
	But he's just a talking head nowadays.
	It's Pogue.
	Pogue.
	Well, on the other hand, if you look at our model where we have actually made our listeners producers, which is something people still don't understand.
	Well, they're supposed to be just consuming it.
	Well, we want to have interaction.
	No.
	The way you really do it is you call people producers and you tell them we expect you to help produce.
	And they do.
	Of course they do.
	And here's how it works.
	We talk often about the Lear Hollywood Foundation.
	Norman Lear, his propaganda, his writers he puts out there in Hollywood.
	They're all over the place.
	You brought a couple of clips.
	I think the last show you gave another example of them talking about how successful they are with their social justice system.
	Narratives that they help put into movies and television.
	And one of our producers was watching Roswell, which is a show I don't watch, of course.
	I don't watch.
	But was pretty sure the Lear Foundation has been at work.
	This is from Roswell, New Mexico.
	Clip one.
	There's an ICE checkpoint on 285, Dad.
	We can sell the diner.
	Move to a sanctuary city.
	I need to know you're not going to get supportive.
	I like it here.
	I like making milkshakes for tourists dressed like little green men.
	Go upstairs, get some rest, yeah?
	I'm already caffeinating.
	I could cover until closing.
	I could do it in my sleep.
	You!
	Rest.
	So I like this clip a lot because she's talking about a sanctuary city and here's your typical illegal immigrant.
	And what does the illegal immigrant really want to do?
	Serve the people with some ice cream.
	And milkshakes.
	Be in service for them.
	And then we have the ICE checkpoint.
	You've got to be kidding me.
	So you let the Joneses and the Jenners through, but you're going to stop the Latina and tell me this is just a DWI checkpoint.
	Ma'am.
	I know Roswell is well past the 100-mile border zone, Vato.
	Ma'am.
	So I will have the ACLU so far up your ass, you'll be reciting the 10th Circuit Bencer Castillo verdict in your sleep.
	Liz.
	I don't think it just ends here.
	So, ice checkpoint, ice or a-holes, call the ACLU, Norman Lear Foundation, fingerprints all over it.
	I would say yes.
	Good catch.
	Back to international news.
	I just want to get this out of the way so people would know that we do cover this stuff, because I'm wondering where Clooney is.
	Clooney?
	Clooney?
	What happened to Clooney?
	What happened to Clooney in South Sudan and Sudan stuff?
	Where's Clooney?
	It's interesting you say that because I also got the South Sudan news and I was thinking what you were thinking.
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction.
	Call Clooney.
	Call Clooney.
	In Sudan's...
	Sorry.
	Sudan update.
	Yeah, I hit it, except I hit the eject instead of the play.
	Sorry, I'm still working with cassette tapes.
	In Sudan, security forces opened fire today on a crowd of mourners outside the home of a man who died after he was shot by authorities during an earlier protest in the capital, Khartoum.
	It followed the killing of two other protesters Thursday elsewhere in Khartoum, a doctor and a 16-year-old, who were both shot in the head by government forces.
	Protests erupted across Sudan a month ago, calling for the overthrow of the ruling National Congress Party and an end to the military regime of President Omar Hassan al-Bashir.
	Well, that's interesting.
	My report from the European Union put a little different spin on it.
	One of Africa's most repressive regimes is facing a growing popular uprising.
	Thousands of protesters have taken to the streets in Sudan, demanding an end to the rule of President Omar al-Bashir.
	In the latest violence, security forces shot dead demonstrators, including a teenage boy.
	Dozens of people have been killed since the protests began last month after the price of bread was tripled.
	Yes!
	It's the bread again.
	You win.
	You win.
	If bread is going, the price of bread doubles or triples in your country, get out.
	Get out.
	It's the bread.
	Yeah, you win that one.
	The bread.
	I do have, here's Lindsey Graham, you know, getting back to his old, somebody tapped him on the shoulder and said, hey, get back to work.
	And there's a PBS reporting him kvetching about, Lindsey Graham kvetching about Syria.
	In Turkey today, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham continued to raise concerns about the Trump administration's planned withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria.
	Graham met with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and other officials yesterday.
	He told reporters today that, quote, withdrawal without a plan is chaos and said the goal of destroying ISIS is not yet accomplished.
	Keep that money flowing.
	I have two clips I want to play here.
	The first is...
	AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, at the Women's March, which was this weekend.
	I guess it was a...
	Are you clipping your nails?
	No, actually, what I'm doing, I have a...
	Are you flicking your pen?
	No, I'm not.
	Now that you mention, I'm going to tell you what it is, because you always like to say, I'm clipping my nails, like that's all I do.
	This is one of those pens with a cap, and when you push the cap on, or take the cap off, It makes this noise, but it's like a felt-tipped pen, so I have to put the cap on or it'll dry up.
	What's interesting is when you make that noise with the pen, it makes me want to jump through the Skype and wring your neck.
	Oh, really?
	It's really that noise.
	Come on, let's see if you can do it.
	You've got to jump.
	Jump.
	Jump, sucker.
	All right.
	What would you say to somebody?
	Oh, shoot.
	This is only one channel?
	Ah, screw it.
	Why did I only do one channel?
	That's very simple.
	Play it anyway.
	It's fine.
	Okay.
	What would you say to some of those people who have concerns about anti-Semitism within the Women's March group?
	Absolutely.
	Well, first of all, I think that right now...
	I can't listen to it on one...
	I'm telling you, it's coming through both channels on my end.
	Yeah, because you're getting mono from me.
	Oh.
	You're on Skype.
	I'm not going to play it.
	Then if you're not going to play it, then you have to play this.
	This is the Women's March Rundown report.
	They had a woman on the street in Washington, D.C. from PBS, and she's some—I never saw her before.
	She's a correspondent.
	She's telling this whole story about how this thing is starting to fall apart.
	She's kind of hoping it doesn't, but you can tell that it is.
	And that was a pretty good report, even though, you know— We've met people from all over the country this morning and a broad range of concerns.
	You know, in 2017, after the first Women's March, the focus was really on the inauguration of the president last year and the Me Too movement loomed large.
	This year there was a broad range of concerns that people are talking about.
	We heard everything from concerns about the president's tax cut to climate change to the shutdown.
	Obviously, women's issues like women's health, reproductive rights, equal pay, those are on people's minds.
	But I would say even more generally, there's a sense that people just wanted to be here, deliver a rebuke to this administration.
	We heard a lot of people talking about just wanting to exercise their right to be out and be politically active and be engaged in their community.
	For some parts of this year, just the organization of the march itself seemed to fracture a little bit.
	There were some controversies by a couple of the members of the original organized.
	There were different marches.
	What's this all about?
	So a lot of this is related to allegations of anti-Semitism on the part of a couple of the leaders of the national organization.
	One of the women, Tamika Mallory, has appeared with the Nation of Islam and has expressed support for Louis Farrakhan, who has made a lot of antisemitic comments in the past.
	And this has led to a lot of controversy.
	In New York, where you are, Hari, there are actually two competing marches going on.
	There have been some national groups that are not partnering with the march this year here in D.C. So we asked a lot of the marchers here today if they were paying attention to this, if this is something that concerns them, and we heard a range of responses.
	We spoke to some Jewish marchers who said that they had friends who asked them, why are you even going to the march?
	We talked to other marchers who said that they felt concerned that their presence here might convey, you know, a sense of supporting what's been going on when it doesn't.
	Overall, I'd say people feel disappointed that these controversies have taken away from all the different messages that they're trying to convey here today.
	And a lot of them just said, you know what, we are going to be here no matter what, marching.
	Megan Thompson joining us from Washington, D.C. Well, you really did punish me.
	I think I would have rather listened to AOC in one channel.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, there was a big anti-Semite thing going on.
	Yeah, they mentioned that.
	Right, but AOC was interviewed while she's in the crowd walking, and she said, well, clearly we know that the real anti-Semitism is coming from the Oval Office.
	I mean, this is the kind of shit that was going on.
	I was like, yeah, this is some shark jumping here with the Women's March.
	Oh, I think the thing is, yeah, I think that's the way to put it.
	That is it.
	And this, you know, the anti-Semitism from the White House, what is she talking about?
	You know, if anything, Trump's being condemned for being too pro-Israel.
	Too pro-Israel, anti-Palestinian.
	And, you know, there was a lot of...
	So what's she talking about?
	This is another example of her just shooting off her mouth.
	Yeah, no, that was definitely...
	Well, that's because, you know, she's...
	Look, she goes on TV, says I'm stupid, and the scriptwriters do their thing on Twitter.
	That's how it goes.
	But the worst, the absolute worst...
	I mean, she's so...
	Tulsi is toast.
	I can't believe she allowed this to happen.
	I predicted it.
	Oh, it's so bad.
	So the candidate, who now of course is representative still, from Hawaii, is just like Kevin Hart, the same playbook is called out over stuff she has already apologized for that happened years ago concerning statements she made about same-sex marriage, which she now just concatenates into LGBT issues.
	Nothing that Obama didn't say.
	Well, in fact, it was the same time.
	But then she does this video, an iPhone video, in the snow.
	I don't know if she's at Davo or where she is, you know, wearing gloves.
	She's from Hawaii.
	Who is running her stuff?
	Anyway, and listen to the energy.
	Aloha.
	In my past, I said and believed things that were wrong.
	And worse, they were very hurtful to people in the LGBTQ community and to their loved ones.
	Save your money!
	Many years ago, I apologized for my words, and more importantly, for the negative impact that they had.
	I sincerely repeat my apology today.
	You can't even listen to it.
	And why is it with this lower register she's using?
	She sounds like the woman from Toronto.
	Yes, I'm baffled by this.
	Hello.
	She has low energy, trying to be...
	I'm sure she's sincere, but this isn't...
	And she's in the snow!
	I don't get that.
	That's the dumbest thing you've ever said.
	I mean, you've ever said.
	It's the dumbest thing anyone could do.
	You're from Hawaii, and it makes it look like you're in Colorado skiing.
	No, Davo.
	I thought she was in Davo.
	Well, Davo.
	She could be a Davo.
	But still, why would you do that?
	Why are you out in the snow?
	Why are you showing yourself being there?
	It's like you're showing off.
	Look at where I am.
	I'm in the snow.
	You're cooking to death in Hawaii.
	It was completely...
	I mean, I'm so disappointed.
	And it also speaks to how much the landscape has changed when I was a big fan of hers four or five years ago.
	She could be president one day.
	Yeah, old days maybe, but not anymore.
	Not with that energy.
	She's got no energy.
	Very disappointing.
	That was bad.
	We've got to hurry up here.
	Actually, we're done, I think.
	We're kind of done.
	I have other stuff that can wait until Thursday.
	I just have one shorty I want to get out of the way about this.
	I can push it off.
	Never mind.
	Oh, come on.
	Now you've teased me.
	It's a shorty.
	This is a story that has no...
	Rhyme no reason, but Democracy Now ran it.
	I don't know why this woman was grabbed and jailed.
	She's from the Iranian news organization, Press TV, that kind of a, whatever it is, propaganda outlet.
	It plays Iranian journalists jailed.
	An American journalist and news anchor for Iran's state television network, Press TV, is due in a Washington, D.C. courtroom today after she was arrested and detained by the FBI during a visit to the United States.
	Marzia Hashemi, who's a U.S. citizen who lives in Tehran, was arrested at St.
	Louis Airport Sunday, then transferred to a prison in Washington, D.C., according to her son.
	The Committee to Protect Journalists says it's concerned about her arrest and called on the U.S. Department of Justice to immediately disclose the basis for her detention for the past five days.
	This is another spook story.
	Is that what's going on?
	I have no idea.
	It might be.
	I mean, it sounds like a spook story.
	Mm-hmm.
	But, I don't know.
	Yeah, our relations with Iran, man.
	You know Lex, my buddy Lex?
	Lex.
	Yeah, Lex.
	He used to be my boss.
	So I'd send Lex an invitation for the wedding.
	And he can't come.
	He's because, you know, he went to Iran on one of his previous trips.
	And he has a stamp in his passport.
	They say, no, you cannot get a no ESTA for you.
	No visa.
	You got to go through a new interview.
	And it could take a year before you get the interview.
	He can't come to the States.
	Well, he pulled the old lost passport stunt.
	Nah, he's on a list, man.
	He's on a list.
	There's no way.
	There you go.
	That's your globalism report.
	Yep.
	That works.
	So you've learned a lot today.
	Hopefully you can use that to keep the amygdala nice and tiny and rattle around in your brain.
	Avoid the 5G handsets and never eat the brown acid.
	Special thanks to Tom Starkweather, Abel Kirby, and UKPMX for our end-of-show mixes.
	And remember that we will be back with you on Thursday, live on the streams, noagendastream.com, and on the podcast.
	Without 13 studios or 120 employees, it's just us.
	So remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And until then, I'm coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the Drone Star State, FEMA Region 6 on all governmental maps in the 5x9 Cludio.
	Good morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's gloomy, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	And again, Dvorak.org slash A.
	Until then, adios, mofos and such.
	And I like bikes.
	I like people who ride, but...
	Thank you all!
	Are you all ready to make a ruckus?
	Her team is going to Puerto Rico doing cocktail parties and Broadway shows.
	They need to be sitting down at the table with the president.
	They need to figure out how to open the government.
	Nobody can ever know what they're doing.
	Forget collusion.
	I want to know if there's penetration.
	Any collusion?
	Being involved in what could be characterized as collusion.
	But you know what?
	You don't impeach people when they're doing a good job.
	And you don't impeach people when there was no collusion.
	Because there was no collusion.
	They begin to change.
	They sacrifice the beauty of the individual for the sake of the group.
	The joint men, the president, then canceled the trip.
	I don't think the president would be that petty to you.
	We're not as there as singing it.
	I heard them saying, build that wall, build that walls.
	Yes.
	You might want to take a look at some of this because now you have Cuomo coming in talking about congestion pricing, and I kind of feel like it's a setup.
	Collusion.
	They're colluding, yeah.
	We say it's time to reopen this government.
	Any collusion?
	There was collusion.
	Copyright and public life are growing more.
	Sharing's wrong, fair use is gone, like video stores.
	When a license grinds on the public mind, it's forever cash.
	The corporate coast on Disney's coast is coming back.
	The streets are filled by picture guilds, resist because The orange fruit, carve the resolute with swastika I imagine worlds with Gitmo girls and better days And Elon,
	I hope can smoke his dough in his Chevrolet.
	Lordy!
	That would be really bad.
	Look, this was terrible.
	It makes me mildly nauseous, but I sat there that morning, and I could not see a door labeled, no action here.
	There's no Anthony Weiner statue, but it is...
	Well, maybe we need one.
	Lordy.
	Lordy.
	If I said that I misspoke, she forwarded hundreds and thousands of emails, some of which contain classified information.
	I'm made of stone.
	Zombie.
	Armies.
	I love this work.
	I love this job.
	You're fired.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	And so they came in and said, we can see thousands of emails from the Clinton email domain, including many, many, many from the Verizon Clinton domain, Blackberry domain.
	They said, we think we got to get a search warrant to go get these.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	Bye.
	You're fired.
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	You're fired. You're fired.
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	You're fired.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	You know what?
	Lordy, Lordy, Lordy.
	You're fired.
	Lordy, Lordy.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.
	Glory, glory, glory, glory.
	I'm not picking on the attorney general, Loretta Lynch, who I like very much, but her meeting with President Clinton on that airplane was the capper for me.
	Lordy, that would be really bad.

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