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1074: Boo You

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	It's Thursday, October 4th, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 1074.
	This is No Agenda.
	Honoring Charles Osnabur, because no one else will.
	And broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas, in the Cludio.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm still waiting for my call from the president, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Well, if you're waiting for a call, then you can wait a long time.
	You're supposed to get a text message, not a call.
	I got nothing.
	It wasn't a text, it was a notification.
	Yes, I didn't get one either.
	Well, Jay didn't get one.
	Nick didn't get one.
	Mimi got one.
	Okay, I'm on the Nokia E71, so I wasn't really expecting one, to be quite honest.
	Apparently, there's supposed to be some...
	It's called a 911 chip or something like that in the phone.
	It's like the newer phone.
	Yeah, don't have it.
	But Jay has a 911 phone, and she didn't get a...
	Well, what does she have?
	What kind of phone does she have?
	Like a...
	It's like a...
	A Samsung Galaxy or Samsung 8 or 7 Galaxy.
	It's a high-end phone.
	She has a SIM card in it?
	She has a...
	I don't know what the hell she's got in it.
	All I know is a new phone.
	I mean, does she use it as a telephone?
	It has an actual cellular connection?
	Yeah, she uses it for messaging and other things.
	Well, that's a fail then.
	It's a total fail.
	Well, she's part of the OTG crew.
	That's very good.
	Well, I couldn't quite decide whether it's good or not that I don't get a presidential alert.
	The former New York banker got one.
	We were on his boat yesterday.
	Oh!
	Oh, yeah.
	Dragging each other through Lake Travis again.
	With ABBA blasting.
	Shirts off.
	No, wake surfing.
	I'm almost there.
	That is...
	I don't even want to go...
	I'll make no comment about it.
	What, about wake surfing?
	Oh, yeah...
	What are you on this big boat under this little lake?
	No, it's not a little lake.
	Excuse me.
	Is it as big as Lake Berryessa?
	If I knew what it was.
	You should go look at Lake Travis.
	It's this long.
	It's not necessarily very wide enough.
	But they got cigarette boats out there.
	All right.
	You're in one of those moods.
	Fine.
	It's okay.
	So tell us more about the banker.
	You must have grilled him about something, unless you were in the drink the whole time.
	No, we drank afterwards.
	But yes, of course, of course.
	Number one thing.
	He says, I say, how's that Tesla short?
	Did you get out when it dropped on the weed smoking?
	He said, no, no.
	He said, I had a rule in there.
	If it dropped below, I guess, 259, then half of his position would be sold.
	It didn't go that low.
	But he says, it's still beautiful.
	January.
	And here's why.
	He says, read the news.
	Everyone's saying, Tesla's Model 3, America's best-selling sedan.
	He says, that's the death knell right now.
	It's because sedans aren't selling.
	It's the only sedan that people are buying.
	Everyone's buying SUVs.
	Ford actually dropped all of his sedans in favor of these crossovers.
	Yeah, he says, these are all people who are fans and really wanted one.
	There's no demand for sedans.
	He says so.
	He's pretty confident that his January...
	I think we should stop here and explore this a little bit, besides the Tesla thing, which is, what happened to the demand for sedans?
	When I was a kid...
	Ah, here we go.
	We used to have these...
	The cars were bigger.
	I'll say.
	They were a lot bigger.
	Two-door or four-door, and they had bench seats.
	They did not have bucket seats.
	That's right.
	You had three in the front, three in the back.
	Which I think has ruined the sedan because the charm of the bench seat was when you're on a date, the girl could sit right next to you.
	Only if you had a Necker's knob on your steering wheel.
	Remember those?
	What, the suicide knob?
	Well, in my parts, we call it the necker's knob.
	So you could have one arm around your girl on the bench and steer with that knob on the steering wheel with your left hand.
	The necker's knob.
	Anyway, you'd have the arm around the girl, and then you could go to drive-in theaters.
	You'd have a lot of fun with these types of cars.
	But then they got the bucket seats with the council in the middle of the stick shift.
	Yes, that was a thing, the bucket seats.
	AM radio.
	How do you even put your arm around anyone if they're over there stuck?
	It would be like they'd kill themselves if they got in the middle.
	They ruined car culture.
	Just something to that thesis.
	I don't know what it was, but it did ruin car culture.
	I don't know why sedans aren't selling, other than what you just mentioned.
	SUVs, it's kind of been sold as, you know...
	It's what every American needs, you know, because we all know that...
	You don't handle as well.
	Even a sedan handles better than an SUV. We all know at the drop of a hat, you know, you can be out of a job in America and you can be tossed out if you need to move.
	Pile up the SUV. Or SUVs.
	Dogs love it because you don't have kids.
	That's true.
	Dogs like SUVs.
	Actually, someone sent me a...
	This was from a law enforcement officer.
	Law enforcement and animal encounters.
	It was a presentation.
	And I have the slide in the show notes.
	Pet ownership in the United States.
	Here's some statistics.
	According to law enforcement, more American households have pets than children.
	Well, we knew that.
	A child in the U.S. is more likely to have a pet than a live-in father.
	Now, that's a statistic right there.
	That is sad.
	The woman is the primary caregiver in 72.8% of pet-owning households.
	Hmm, isn't that interesting?
	That's odd.
	That's a very strange fact.
	Yeah.
	And I can only presume it's a fact.
	And battered women have been known to live in their cars with their pets for as long as four months until a spot opened up at a pet-friendly safe house.
	Wow.
	Every country's going downhill.
	Every country's going downhill.
	The Netherlands.
	Oh my goodness.
	Big warning from the State Department.
	Travel advisory.
	What?
	For the Netherlands of all places?
	For the Netherlands of all places, yes.
	I shall read this advisory to you from travel.state.gov.
	Netherlands, travel advisory.
	Level 2, exercise increased caution.
	Wait, we gotta do that.
	Level 2, level 2, exercise increased caution.
	Caution.
	Terrorists continue plotting possible attacks in the Netherlands.
	Terrorists may attack with little or no warning, targeting tourist locations, transportation hubs, markets, shopping malls, local government facilities, hotels, clubs, restaurants, places of worship, parks, major sporting and cultural events, educational institutions, airports, and other public areas.
	Woohoo!
	Can't wait to go back.
	Huh.
	I wonder what they know that we don't.
	Well, they just rolled up those seven guys who were planning a major attack.
	Well, this sounds to me like the time to go.
	They're not going to attack after that.
	This is the no agenda thinking.
	Absolutely.
	I'm in total agreement.
	When nothing's going on, that's when you've got to be careful.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so there's plenty of stuff to talk about, thank goodness.
	Some of it...
	Not that I watch cable news.
	Are you monitoring the vote?
	Is this the Kavanaugh vote?
	Yeah.
	We'll see.
	Monitor.
	We should have maybe some info by the end of the show.
	Well, let me see.
	I do have some SCOTUS Kavanaugh related stuff.
	I mean, there's all kinds of news stories.
	Oh, well, before we go on there, I might as well just start with a little bit of humor.
	This was that woman I told you about who's a voiceover actress.
	I can't remember her name offhand, but she's a voiceover actress doing the voice of Ford, the sound alike.
	And she sounds like her, but she got nothing but grief for doing this.
	Didn't she do voiceover for Star Wars?
	Yeah, she's a voice actress.
	And she does this voice, and I thought she nails it, but she got grief, you know, because nobody can make, you know, oh my God.
	I don't know if anybody is listening to the Dr.
	Blasey Ford testimony about Brett Kavanaugh, but this is how I sound.
	I know it's a surprise to even me that I talk this way and I'm a doctor and a grown woman.
	I sound like I'm still back at that high school party.
	I can't help it.
	I just have this kind of a voice, like a baby, even though I'm a doctor and I'm on this media circus political stage and I have kids myself.
	I don't know why I speak with vocal fry, but you can listen to my testimony and hear that A grown woman sounds this way.
	Dr.
	Blasey Ford, thank you.
	Well, if we're going to take that particular track, fine.
	I don't know why the New York Times does this.
	I think they should stick to reporting.
	Just stick to making a newspaper.
	No, they've got to do audio and video.
	I don't know who decided to produce this clip from the New York Times NYTimes.com website.
	This is about Trump and he didn't make it on himself.
	His dad gave him all this money and they dodged taxes.
	I have a really good summary of that, yeah.
	This story was too funny.
	Well, wait until you hear the New York Times audio version of this.
	In 1995, Donald Trump and his siblings began to take ownership of most of their father's real estate empire while avoiding hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes.
	It's semi-fri.
	They did so by creating two grantor-retained annuity trusts.
	Grats. Grats.
	Uh.
	That's exactly what they did.
	Take, for instance, the Fontainebleau apartments.
	In 1982, the Trumps valued the 164-unit complex at $15.3 million.
	What is with the jazz drums?
	What are they thinking?
	They got jazz drums, she's talking in a bucket, she's semi-fry.
	That's a woman?
	Yes!
	They said it was worth just $2.9 million.
	They then broke up the ownership of the apartment.
	I don't think so.
	I think it's a woman.
	Giving almost half to Mary Trump, Fred Trump's wife.
	This allowed them to tell the IRS that Fred Trump, who had exercised iron-fisted control over every brick of his empire...
	And we thank our executive producer, Mingus.
	He built row houses and owned a couple of apartment buildings.
	I mean, empire.
	Iron-fisted control over every brick of his empire for 70 years was a minority owner with no real say over his buildings.
	I can't listen to it anymore.
	But that is the New York Times today.
	Yeah, somebody with vocal fry, guy or woman.
	I don't know what sex that was.
	It doesn't matter when you fry that hard.
	It could have been anything.
	I'm sorry.
	It could have been any of 60.
	But you got the newsletter.
	You saw a picture of the house that he owned and he raised the Trump family in.
	It's a middle-class place in the Queens of all places.
	You can't become an empire builder in Queens.
	Do you have a jazz drum there by any chance?
	You got your jazz drums?
	My bongos are downstairs.
	I could actually really make it sound good.
	Here's a new splash for you.
	So this guy, you know, they made him out to be a billionaire, giving $400 million, giving it to Trump.
	Oh, by the way, I love the continuous, that's $5 billion in today's dollars.
	They keep adding the inflation numbers to make it sound good.
	It was $3 million, but that's $800,000 billion in today's dollars.
	So this was like the most blown up, and everybody, all the New York media picked up on it, you know, because it sounded so good.
	Now, all of a sudden, out of the blue, Fred Trump, of all people, becomes an empire guy, a billionaire in Queens, you know, living in an austere little house.
	It makes no sense whatsoever.
	And apparently Donald, when he was a baby, they were giving him $300,000 a month.
	Here's a bunch of money, kid.
	Don't spend it in one place.
	He's not a self-made...
	And the thing is...
	This is an old meme.
	This is on the list.
	It's old.
	It's in the Trump rotation.
	Exactly.
	He's not as rich as he claims he was.
	Didn't do it by himself, which is kind of a hybrid of a rotation.
	And a tax cheat somehow, which is very specious at best.
	Nobody wants...
	Gee, I guess the New York Times does a better job than the IRS does.
	And people, I heard them on the cable news show saying, where's the IRS? And I'm like, they're busy fucking me up my ass!
	That's what they're doing!
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	It's Tourette's.
	Rundown?
	This is so bogus.
	This is probably the most extreme of the rundowns.
	This is on Democracy Now.
	In a major expose, the New York Times has revealed President Trump inherited his family's wealth through tax dodges and outright fraud, receiving at least $413 million in inflation-adjusted dollars from his father's real estate empire.
	The New York Times' 13,000-word investigative report found Fred and Mary Trump, Donald Trump's parents, transferred more than a billion dollars in wealth to their children.
	Much of it to Donald Trump.
	Wait, was that in today's dollars?
	I don't know, but it's a lot of money.
	It's a lot of money.
	The $550 million in taxes they should have under inheritance tax rates.
	The Times reports Donald Trump helped his parents undervalue real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars in IRS tax returns.
	The Times also reports Trump earned $200,000 a year in today's dollars from his parents' companies beginning at the age...
	Okay, it's annoying me to no end.
	And now that Democracy Now!
	is doing it, The only reason I can think for them to use this consistent today's dollars is because they want to inflate it?
	Yes.
	This is something that is not typically done.
	They're doing it, I think, to inflate it on the one hand and draw attention to the numbers, the bigger numbers, or get more attention.
	This is nuts.
	I mean, one of the things they don't – this is like during the Obama administration.
	I mean, the guy never worked really in a business or a job or had any skills like that.
	And they make all these assumptions.
	I think Amy Goodman is pretty much in the same boat.
	Yeah.
	Although you don't even have to have a billion.
	You can have one of these $14 million apartment complexes, and I guess that makes you a billionaire.
	You can give money to your children all throughout their lives tax-free.
	Yeah.
	It's what you do.
	You're supposed to do that.
	You give them, you know, allowances as much as you can legally.
	Yeah, because at the end of your day, the government comes and takes it away.
	Yeah, so if you, like, keep giving it away legally, it's all legal.
	It's not like there's no cheating going on.
	If there was cheating, the IRS would be all over it.
	No, no, listen.
	What they should be doing...
	Oh, right on time.
	At 1127.
	What they should be reporting is there is an America for everybody, and then an America for the wealthy buddies.
	And Trump is clearly a part of that, and I'll tell you exactly one part of that difference.
	The IRS code is pretty much all bullcrap just to keep the slaves in check.
	If you have enough money to go and sue the IRS over very simple things, you will most likely win.
	The problem is it costs you $200,000, $300,000 to get lawyers and jury pool, and all the rest is just slave control.
	Guys like Trump and people like Bloomberg and Warren Buffett They don't have to play by the rules because the IRS knows they don't play by the rules because the actual rules say that they can do this.
	There are two Americas.
	Yeah, it's completely, completely okay and legal.
	Now, is it disgusting that the little guy gets screwed?
	Yeah, of course it is.
	Won't they make a story out of that then?
	Oh, please.
	Doesn't involve Trump.
	Of three.
	With a salary that increased to a million dollars a year after Trump graduated college and to five million a year when Trump was in his 40s.
	During the 2016 campaign, Trump repeatedly portrayed himself as a self-made billionaire whose only head start was, quote, a small loan of a million dollars from his dad.
	Which is $8 billion in today's dollars.
	It's not been easy for me.
	It has not been easy for me.
	And, you know, I started off in Brooklyn.
	My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars.
	I came into Manhattan, and I had to pay him back, and I had to pay him back with interest.
	In fact, the New York Times reports Fred Trump...
	Hey, stop, stop, stop.
	Now, you actually pointed something out that I didn't catch, but now I did.
	In fact, when he got the so-called million-dollar loan, in today's dollars, it probably would be about eight.
	But they don't mention that, do they?
	But they don't mention that because they want to go with the extremes.
	So instead of saying in today's dollars when it came to that, no, no, no, no.
	Exactly.
	That way they can exaggerate the difference.
	It's called biased reporting.
	You think?
	Manhattan, and I had to pay him back, and I had to pay him back with interest.
	In fact, the New York Times reports Fred Trump lent his son Donald at least $140 million in inflation-adjusted dollars, and much of it was never repaid.
	As the New York Times expose broke on Tuesday...
	Now, that's really misleading, because first she doesn't say the million dollars is not adjusted for today, and then she says, in fact, he lent him $140 million in today's dollars.
	Well, how does that compare to the $1 million that you didn't give us in today's dollars?
	It's pathetic.
	It really is.
	This is like so ridiculous.
	I mean, and the media in general is pulling this stunt and this today's dollars thing is just part of it.
	But today's show, I have most of my clips today show some.
	And Amy's, I have one of those whipsaw clips from her that I've never noticed before because I don't listen to Democracy Now that much.
	But I guess she's into it too.
	You know, say one thing and then exemplify it with something that's got nothing to do with it.
	Yeah, which one is this?
	Well, does that clip over the other one?
	Yeah, it was pretty much over.
	Yeah, let it go.
	Okay.
	This will be...
	This is where it should say...
	The switchback?
	Maybe it's the switchback.
	Switchback, yeah.
	Switchback.
	Got it.
	President Trump praised Judge Kavanaugh and mocked his accusers Tuesday.
	This is Trump speaking to reporters outside the White House.
	Well, I say that it's a very scary time for young men in America when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of.
	This is a very, very, this is a very difficult time.
	Wow.
	Shameless.
	Shameless.
	He said nothing about the judge and he said nothing about, he didn't mock anybody.
	And by the way, she said he mocked his accusers.
	He did have a funny bit that he did at his speech about the woman.
	Oh, about Dr.
	Ford.
	Which I do have a clip of.
	But that was an example of a switchback.
	She says Trump did this and that, and then she goes to the clip of Trump who did neither of those things.
	He's just bitching and moaning about young men today getting screwed over by false accusations.
	So she's full of shit, this woman.
	Yeah.
	Well, whoever's writing her script.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	No, that's okay.
	Well, this actually, this takes me into a multi-part series, unless you want to play what Trump said at his rally.
	I would like to play because I thought, you know, he's developing his stand-up.
	Yeah.
	He's getting better at it.
	And it's important because Fox no longer breaks life to him when he's doing these, which means, hey, you know, your script is kind of old and tired.
	He caught on to it two times.
	He wasn't aired.
	Boom.
	Now he's doing stuff that they have to air again.
	Yes.
	And, of course, C-SPAN does play his whole speeches.
	Scott Adams made an interesting observation on the Joe Rogan show, which someone sent to me.
	If you want to make something addictive, then you can't deliver the same outstanding product every single time.
	It has to be different so that people are saying, oh, well, it wasn't quite as good as, maybe it'll be this time.
	And then when you get one, then, you know, then boom, everything, your levels go through the roof.
	Like, oh, yeah, this is fantastic.
	And that's how you addict someone, which is what Trump does.
	By the way, inadvertently, we do it on this show.
	Yeah.
	But we're naturals.
	We're naturals at the sucking sometimes.
	Yes.
	All right.
	So that's why he's smart.
	He's adding to his routine.
	I agree.
	Now, all of the networks said that Trump – and they did it derisively and they even had Anna Eshoo locally.
	I don't have the clip of her bitching about this.
	Oh, he mocked that poor woman.
	He mocked her.
	He mocked her as though he's like – I don't know.
	I mean I don't get what the point is.
	He's not really – he's doing a shtick.
	And I think he's doing it well.
	And this is him.
	Trump mocks Ford at the speech.
	Later Tuesday, President Trump mocked Dr.
	Christine Blasey Ford during a campaign rally in Mississippi, just days after he'd called her a very credible witness.
	36 years ago, this happened.
	I had one beer.
	Right?
	I had one beer.
	Well, do you think it was...
	Nope!
	It was one beer.
	Oh, good.
	How did you get home?
	I don't remember.
	How'd you get there?
	I don't remember.
	Where is the place?
	I don't remember.
	How many years ago was it?
	I don't know.
	Oh, but at the end, there was more to it.
	At the end, he brings it back and says, but I had one beer!
	Yeah.
	He did wrap it around.
	It was very well done.
	They didn't play that whole thing, unfortunately, and I don't have it.
	But yes, he did.
	I heard it once.
	Yes, it was very well done.
	And he does the build-up.
	He does the yelling louder and louder.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Right with the audience applauding.
	I mean, the guy is getting really good at this.
	Yeah.
	Now, there was a National Press Club show, which you may have seen at least one clip from.
	That's the Kalb Report.
	And on this show was Ted Koppel, Chad Koppel, and Brian Stelter, the seltzer water man from CNN's reliable sources.
	Also on the panel was some dude from WAPO and Emily Rooney from WGBH Boston.
	Here's how I think I'm going to do this.
	I'm going to play the clip that pretty much everybody saw.
	And I've learned from doing this show for 11 in our 11th year now that often when there's a clip that's going viral and people are showing it, you got to go and find the source material because a there's probably more to the clip than just that little meme that floats around you got to go and find the source material because a there's probably more to the clip than just that And I think I struck some gold with this one.
	Ted Koppel pretty much doing our job as media deconstructionist.
	And I'm going to jump right into this and then later I'll go back to the beginning to show you how sadly pathetic it really is.
	But I love what Koppel said here.
	They're talking about the press and the president and how it's horrible to have to be a journalist and we're under fire and we have to resist and he's a liar and he tweets and all this stuff.
	And then Ted Koppel drops this.
	Oh, I think that we've left out a key word.
	Everybody here keeps talking about ideology and politics.
	Money.
	Money.
	Donald Trump has been very, very good for baseball.
	He has been wonderful for the industry.
	Your boss acknowledged as much a number of months ago during the campaign.
	Les Moonves.
	Donald Trump, huh?
	It was Les Moonves who acknowledged it.
	Les Moonves also acknowledged it, but so did the head of CNN. But that means what?
	If ratings are up, that means what?
	Oh, the ratings are up.
	It means you can't do without Donald Trump.
	You would be lost without Donald Trump.
	That is what he says.
	Ted, you know that's not true.
	You know that's not true, Ted.
	You'd be in the toilet without Donald Trump.
	You know that's not true.
	You're playing for laughs.
	I realize Brian Stelter, I think he's...
	Is that Stelter?
	Yeah, he sounds super gay.
	He's like, you're just doing that for cheap laughs, Ted.
	You've lived through enough presidencies to know there will be more presidents.
	What were the ratings before Trump and what are the ratings now?
	I would say we might be up 20, we might be up 30%, we might be up 40%.
	If we go back down 40%, that's okay too.
	Well, it may not be.
	Of course it is.
	Sure, no problem, Brian.
	Keep saying that.
	I reject the premise that these networks are making so much money off of Trump and thus we benefit from it.
	Tell me for a moment, if you will, let's get away from CNN. All right?
	Sensitive subject.
	Let's go to MSNBC. Is there a moment of the day when they are not focusing on Donald Trump or some intimately related subject?
	It is essentially, oh I know, every once in a while.
	You know, if the number of people who died in Indonesia gets up to a thousand, they'll give it a mention or two.
	But by and large, the only news that's covered.
	Program after program after program.
	It was fun to watch Brian Stelter's face just kind of melt away and make all these gaffes.
	So I go back and watch this entire show, and the premise of the show by itself was such utter bullcrap.
	It was a total head shaker.
	Here is the intro to this show.
	Oh, by the way, I cut out a ton of spaces because this Kalb guy and couple, they talk Like this.
	Yeah, they do.
	A lot.
	They use dramatic methodology.
	Very dramatic.
	And welcome to the National Press Club and to another edition of the Kalb Report.
	I'm Marvin Kalb and our topic tonight, truth be told, journalism in the age of Donald Trump.
	In February 2017, three weeks after his inauguration, President Trump called the press the enemy of the American people.
	Okay, now he said February 2017, February.
	We're going to come back to that in a minute, but he said press enemy of the people.
	If truth be told, our mission tonight, I was stunned.
	Stunned!
	He was the first leader of a democracy to call the press an enemy of the people.
	Up to this time, only the dictators of the 20th century, Hitler of Germany, Stalin of the Soviet Union, had used that loaded phrase.
	I was left wondering, why would Trump choose to join such unsavory company?
	Like he made a decision.
	I think I shall become a dictator.
	I want to join these guys.
	What did he have in mind?
	What was his strategy?
	And for a journalist, equally important, how should one cover a president so indifferent to historical fact and so free and easy with truth?
	No easy task.
	So we know that that is not what the president said.
	But this guy, you know, someone wrote it down for him.
	Maybe he researched it.
	February, Trump said, oh my god, he said, the press is the enemy of the people.
	And Trump addressed this grievance three days after he said, the fake news is the enemy of the people.
	And I got the clip for us.
	And I want you all to know that we are fighting the fake news.
	It's fake.
	Phony.
	Fake.
	A few days ago, I called the fake news the enemy of the people, and they are.
	They are the enemy of the people.
	Because they have no sources, they just make them up when there are none.
	They're very dishonest people.
	In fact, in covering my comments, the dishonest media did not explain that I called the fake news the enemy of the people.
	The fake news.
	They dropped off the word fake.
	And all of a sudden, the story became the media is the enemy.
	They take the word fake out.
	And now I'm saying, oh no, this is no good.
	That's the way they are.
	So I'm not against the media.
	Anyway, so he, you know, that's not what he said.
	By the way, that was an excellent clip to keep at the ready.
	Because this kind of thing just continues to propagate.
	And now you have, you know, Marvin Kelb, a very famous old, you know, retired journalist.
	Throwing it out there again, and it's bull crap.
	This is very poor.
	This is very poor.
	They're just proving the point.
	There's a couple of things here, but that was what was so mind-boggling to me, is you didn't even get the quote right, and you didn't even get the media, but you moved it to press.
	So it's mind-boggling.
	You moved the media to press.
	Yeah, with fake news to media is the enemy, to the press is the enemy of the people.
	Yeah, which he never said.
	We have a saying in the Netherlands, also soon post trekking them on.
	If the shoe fits, you will put it on.
	So maybe that's what's going on here.
	Yeah, that's us.
	We're fake.
	Oh, it's me.
	It's the press.
	I can't explain it any other way.
	That sounds like a good explanation as any.
	Now, Koppel is very switched on, and he mentions things that I have a feeling that the panel had never even maybe thought about.
	To us, very obvious.
	What is your underlying fear about this collision between president and press?
	Well, let me tell you a little anecdote, which, as our old friend Henry Kissinger liked to say, has the additional advantage of being true.
	In Cleveland, the day that he was nominated, I sat down with Donald Trump.
	I have known Donald Trump for about 20 years.
	And in the course of that interview, he said to me, you know, Ted, I don't need you guys anymore.
	You guys in the press.
	He said, I've got, I think at that time it was 18 million followers on Twitter, and perhaps at that point 12 million followers on Facebook.
	Those numbers have expanded hugely.
	She said, I don't need you guys.
	I can contact my people directly, communicate with them directly.
	That's part of our problem.
	The other part of our problem is the internet, which because it gives access to anyone, With an iPhone or a laptop computer requires far less experience than any of the panelists you have up here.
	It's like I'm watching this in slow motion.
	Wait a minute.
	Now I know what happened.
	Internet!
	My goodness.
	So, there's some more back and forth about the media's image.
	I'm going to skip that clip.
	Oh, at a certain point, a very rude question.
	Very rude.
	We have a number of oral doctors, known as dentists, who listen to this program.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oral hygiene is incredibly nice.
	I think we have dukes, even.
	Oral hygiene is incredibly important to your overall well-being and health.
	Crush every day.
	Let's mock them.
	Do you think they should go into journalism or become...
	Yeah, so it's about the young people who are attending this farce.
	Do you think they should go into journalism or become...
	dentists?
	What?
	Ho, ho, ho, ho!
	Well, fuck ya.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	I go back to your Richard C. Hotlet quote.
	Get it straight.
	Become journalists.
	But be professional journalists.
	I hate the self-depiction of some of our colleagues as being part of the resistance.
	No, we're not.
	We're journalists.
	And that means gathering the facts and conveying them as accurately as we can.
	Sometimes that will be hypercritical.
	But we gotta do it.
	Do your job.
	Last clip kind of backs this up with a nice anecdote, and this is kind of his advice to today's journos.
	In the old days, we were the gatekeepers.
	There was a term that a behavioral scientist by the name of Wilbur Schramm coined many, many years ago.
	To get to the public, you had to go through Marvin Cowell or Walter Cronkite.
	Or Chet Huntley and David Brinkley.
	And you only had the three networks, right?
	That made a huge difference.
	Another quick story.
	I got a call, oh, about 30 years ago from a New York Times reporter.
	No, actually, I called him because I wanted him to come on as a guest.
	On Nightline.
	And he went to check with the then executive editor of the New York Times, a fellow by the name of Abe Rosenthal, an old friend of yours.
	And he called me back later and he said, I'll tell you what Abe said.
	He said, you want to go on Koppel's program?
	You go right ahead.
	Only don't come back to the New York Times.
	His point being twofold.
	One, you work for the Times, and that's all I want you to do.
	And two, Koppel's going to ask you a lot of provocative questions.
	And I don't want my New York Times reporters expressing opinions.
	Well, them days is long past.
	From Morning Joe to Rachel at night on CNN, on MSNBC, the spear carriers are there from the New York Times, from the Washington Post, and they are trying very, very hard to be what they are.
	First-rate objective reporters.
	But when you are in the presence of Joe and Mika Brzezinski in the morning, and you are on that program where quite clearly the agenda is anti-Trump from start to finish, If you appear on that program and you sit on that desk morning after morning after morning, the public is going to identify you as being anti-Trump.
	And you can do the best you possibly can to be an objective reporter when you're doing your stories for The Times, and people aren't going to believe you.
	I think Ted is due for a hashtag MeToo moment.
	Better be careful there, Ted.
	I'd be careful, yeah.
	Can't be speaking that truth to power, bro.
	Very, very dangerous.
	Very dangerous.
	But he's dead on.
	Yeah, of course he is.
	But of course, those assholes up there, they were paying no attention to him.
	No.
	No, of course not.
	No, they're saying, well, you know, that Ted's an old man, you know, he sees things differently.
	He knows Trump personally.
	He's trying to defend his friend.
	Yeah.
	We're part of the resistance!
	Oh, is that it?
	They're friendly?
	Is Koppel, uh...
	Surely he's left?
	Oh yeah, he's known Trump forever.
	Well, most people in the press around New York have known Trump forever.
	They just never picked up on his Nazi stuff.
	Strange.
	So strange.
	Very strange.
	I don't understand.
	How does it happen?
	Now he's putting himself in with Stalin and Hitler, as Marvin Kelp said.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Well, so I met up with one of these little secretive Republican gatherings on Friday.
	I mentioned this.
	I was going to go to do this.
	No, you didn't tell me this.
	Yes, I told you.
	I did.
	Not on the show.
	It was a couple weeks ago when I told you.
	It was after the show.
	Oh, if it didn't happen on the show, it didn't happen.
	Well, I agree.
	So I went to this thing, and it was interesting because there was...
	Well, can you tell us what the thing was?
	It was just one of these little cocktails with conservatives was the name of it.
	That's what it was.
	And so I said, well, I'll go to this thing.
	And so because I wanted to see what was going on with the – California Republicans are pathetic.
	All of them were in the room, no doubt.
	Pretty much.
	I think all of the California Republicans were there.
	And it was like one guy is a professor.
	He teaches public speaking at some college.
	He wouldn't say which because he was afraid.
	Did you all have badges with your name blacked out?
	Just the first name.
	Yeah, they were all blacked out.
	Was your name Earl?
	Earl?
	Did you tell people you were a podcaster?
	Yes, I did.
	People don't realize where podcasters sit on the pecking order.
	Ooh, you're a podcaster.
	That's hip.
	The point is that everybody seems to be freaked out.
	They can't bring – they can't say anything that they – they can't say anything in public unless they're amongst fellow travelers because they get called out and yelled at and accused of this and that and the potential of losing their jobs, especially in the city.
	the Silicon Valley area.
	It's really pathetic how they've been – how anybody who's not a Hillary supporter has been silenced in California.
	Right.
	Even though they – a couple of them said, well, I put a – I'm sorry.
	I would go even further.
	I would say even just saying you're conservative, a conservative, or a Republican, I'm sure, is just not done in California.
	And it's...
	but it's like it's so accepted to just to keep these people from speaking up.
	So they never speak up.
	They just don't.
	They just, which is what we recommend on this show, by the way, if you haven't noticed.
	In some environments, you just shut up because you're nuts to do anything else.
	Because the radicals pretty much hold the reins of control when it comes to free speech.
	But, you know, it was interesting.
	Well, this is a dud.
	It was a dud.
	What came out of it?
	Surely something came out of it.
	Yeah, I found out.
	I didn't know this, but I should have known it.
	We had a representative from the RNC there, and he's talking about We have a bill in California to repeal a ridiculous gas tax that was just thrown up.
	We're running out of money because we've got so much corruption in California.
	Let's put another 10 cents on every gallon of gas.
	That'll help.
	And so somebody said, no, no, this is ridiculous.
	You keep taxing gas.
	It's too high.
	The gas is too high, so let's repeal the gas tax, which is Proposition 6.
	So yes on six repeals the gas tax.
	But I was looking over my ballot and when you read the yes on six information in the ballot, it says voting for this will destroy the roads and freeways of California.
	What?
	That makes no sense.
	That's what I said.
	And the guy says, oh, yes, the lieutenant governor, the guy who writes, I think it's lieutenant government who writes these He's the guy who writes these things.
	He's the one who writes up the way it's presented on the ballot.
	So he writes it up for the benefit of the state, the coffers, by making it sound very negative if you vote yes on six.
	That's not just a little negative.
	It sounded like fire and fury.
	The next show I'm going to bring the ballot up and I'll read it.
	I'll read the way it's written because I do have it downstairs.
	But it's like I didn't realize that that's how it was done.
	I thought it was a little more fair, but apparently it's not.
	What am I thinking?
	Well, things are getting fair in California.
	Very, very fair, especially for women.
	California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill into law Sunday requiring that publicly held corporations headquartered in the state include women on their boards.
	This law is the first of its kind in the U.S. We've got Jenna McGregor to talk about it.
	She covers corporate governance for The Washington Post.
	When Governor Jerry Brown was talking about this, he referred to recent events in Washington.
	And you wrote about the Brett Kavanaugh hearings in the Senate Judiciary Committee and sort of the appearance of having a female prosecutor there in the room.
	How much of this is about appearance and how much is about change in corporate governance?
	This, by the way, is NPR. Always ready to put in a Trump dig.
	Well, I have seen the same question of whether he is trying to make a statement, particularly this week, although this was the deadline, end of September, for deciding to sign it into law.
	So was this a way of making a statement of what the country has been doing?
	Engage in a major national conversation about.
	The issue of whether having more women on the board has any impact is a good question.
	There is a lot of research that shows it does have a good impact, that it leads to either higher returns or better decision-making or better priced mergers.
	Sounds pretty solid to me, that background research info.
	The question is, how do you do it?
	Do you actually require them to do it?
	Do you have incentives for them to do it?
	Do you do it through kind of public shaming?
	And so what is the best approach to getting more diversity on the board or getting more diversity in a room full of any decision makers?
	Ah, key point there, because that'll be next.
	Key point.
	This is for board.
	And as she said right there, WAPO, How about just equal women, men, for any room of decision makers, any room?
	I can see this happening.
	It's like a Vonnegut type situation.
	Do they have any provisions for this?
	And I know there's a couple of companies in California that brag about being all women, women CEO. How about HuffPo?
	Is that fine?
	That's okay?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is where you live.
	And that was not the only...
	This is another wedge between business and the state government.
	It's just make companies just going to incorporate in Delaware.
	They don't have to do any of this stuff.
	I wouldn't.
	But if you're operating in California, I'm sure you have to adhere to it, whether you're a Delaware company or not.
	Or where you're incorporated.
	I mean, Amazon's operating in California.
	A lot of people operate in California.
	It doesn't mean that they have to have women on their boards.
	They will.
	Well, they can try.
	It's illegal.
	They'll be shamed.
	Wait, it's illegal?
	It's unconstitutional.
	Yeah.
	You can't tell people what – you can't have quotas like that on a board of a company, public or not, as far as I can tell.
	This would be struck down by the Supreme Court, especially once Kavanaugh gets in.
	Okay, John, simmer down.
	Sure.
	That's right.
	That's why he'll do it.
	Your net neutrality law also passed.
	And I will remind everyone, John and I are against the idea of net neutrality.
	For a lot of different reasons.
	It's a misunderstood position.
	But it is absolutely true that all net neutrality regulations and rules, including those in California, include the language that an ISP may block any unlawful traffic or unlawful content.
	Yeah, torrents.
	Hello, torrents.
	All of that goes away.
	Bitcoin, all kinds of things.
	Yeah, I think torrents would be the first to go.
	So there's a lot of blocking that could happen, and the prioritization thing is bullcrap, as you've pointed out many times.
	You definitely want telemedicine to have some type of prioritization at certain moments, but no.
	But this report from NPR is exquisite.
	Remind us what net neutrality is and what impact this California law, if implemented, would have on ordinary people going online.
	Right.
	The overarching question of net neutrality is how much power your internet providers should have over your internet experience.
	So typically when people talk about net neutrality, they mean regulations like no blocking of whatever website you want to visit, that internet providers should not be able to slow down an app that you're visiting.
	Oh, I'm visiting an app today.
	Say hi to grandma.
	Other elements sometimes include...
	I'm visiting an app?
	Well, this is the level of NPR technology reporting.
	And she's telling us this is what it's about, you know, so they can't slow down your connection or your app.
	Other elements sometimes include things like zero rating, which is a deal where Verizon might give you streaming of Hulu that doesn't count toward your data restrictions, but then count Netflix toward data restrictions.
	And these are all rules that California put into place.
	They banned all these things.
	Ban them, I tell you.
	Ban them.
	It sounds like whatever they ban is for the benefit of so we can make sure to get our streaming.
	Right.
	Well, we all know who this really benefits, and it benefits Google, it benefits Facebook, Twitter, Apple to an extent.
	It benefits those guys.
	Let's see if she brings that up.
	Before the Trump administration repealed the net neutrality rules, there was a really vocal campaign by activists trying to get the FCC not to take this step.
	Now that California has gone this route, what has the reaction been?
	Well, California was indeed sort of reacting to that massive liberal wave of activism and online activism that prompted the writing of these rules.
	You know, the battle lines have been drawn for a while on the net neutrality debate, and then they're still the same.
	On the one hand, you've got internet companies, especially the smaller ones like Etsy or a video streaming company, Vimeo, saying that these rules are critical for them to be able to compete against the bigger companies.
	On the other side, you've got the telecom providers, your AT&T, your Verizon, your Comcast, that have been pushing California to not put net neutrality rules into place and are expected to sue California as well.
	Yeah.
	Let's add Amazon.
	California taxpayers' money are going to get sued.
	Yeah, let's add Amazon, Netflix.
	Let's add all of that.
	Those guys don't want to have to pay extra.
	That's what this is about.
	But no, it's about little guys don't want to get screwed.
	No, please.
	I want to mention something here, which is part of my ongoing argument, which we sometimes forget to mention.
	Ever since the internet showed up in the late 80s and then when it became very popular, starting with the browser and the World Wide Web, there was this constant cry.
	And you remember this.
	Oh, my God, we can't let the government ever step foot and screw things up.
	Don't let the government come in with their regulations.
	Net neutrality issues are all about giving the government the power to come in and screw things up.
	Which is what they've been...
	They were bitching.
	All the experts, all the superstars were doing nothing but moaning and groaning about the possibility of the government coming in and screwing things up with the internet.
	But now they're inviting it?
	Hello?
	I love when you get mad.
	It's just that you see this happening and you go...
	You guys were thinking the other way just a few years ago for pretty good reasons, and now you're inviting it?
	How did you get...
	Here's what I would ask.
	how did you all get suckered by this net neutrality nonsense how did that happen when you say you all who are you talking to all the people out there are all big gung-ho net neutrality i can tell you how that happened the biggest lobbying group outside of pharmaceutical in dc is silicon valley led mainly by you know google i'd say is the most sophisticated but they They all...
	And, you know, it's sexy.
	They got stars.
	They got all kinds of stuff.
	They got storylines.
	They got cameos.
	It's all sexy, sexy, sexy.
	And those are the guys who just lobby the crap out of it, and they create all these little non-profits, all these stop-net neutrality.
	You all get about $800,000, $900,000 a year from Google.
	And Soros probably.
	I'll just throw it in there because it sounds good.
	But Google for sure.
	And from Facebook.
	And it's their job to go out and make you afraid.
	Because it's not that hard to believe.
	But it's without critical thinking or without knowledge of how shit works, how peering works, what actually the Netflix controversy was about.
	None of that background is given anymore.
	So it's just a lack of knowledge and playing to people's fear.
	Do all my Netflix to be buffering!
	That's the main thing.
	By the way, there's reports now that because there are so many streaming services that have, yeah, I know, that all have separate requirements for, Amazon's pretty much the only one you can do a la carte with most things if you want to, which I do like.
	I like saying, oh, this is $199.
	Yeah, that's worth it to me.
	This is a good value for whatever that one episode is.
	But because it's, you know, the big hit stuff that comes out, you have to have either an Amazon account, or you have to have a Netflix account, or you have to have a Hulu account, or Roku is now in the game, you know, all these different services.
	So torrents are on the rise again.
	It's become what worked so well with Netflix and to an extent with Amazon.
	Now they're eating themselves again because everyone's got an exclusive on House of Cards.
	You just can't get it if you're only an Amazon person.
	So they're forcing people back into illegality.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	It makes sense.
	It may not matter to them.
	But that's something that net neutrality will take care of.
	Don't you worry.
	Since we're talking about tech news, we did have one tech news thing.
	Yeah, there's just a peculiarity.
	Listen to this presentation.
	It's from Bloomberg News.
	Bloomberg News.
	And tell me how this makes any sense to anybody.
	Just a Microsoft clip.
	Microsoft says it has thwarted an attempt by hackers tied to the Russian military to disrupt the U.S. midterm elections.
	The company's digital crimes unit shut down six web domains meant to mimic sites victims might expect to get email from or visit, like Senate.Group.
	Microsoft said it's sifting through evidence of the group's intentions after getting a court order to take over those domains.
	I didn't understand that story at all.
	You didn't understand what that presentation was?
	I want to listen to it again.
	Microsoft says it has thwarted an attempt by hackers tied to the Russian military to disrupt the U.S. midterm elections.
	Now she's saying hackers from the Russian military?
	Microsoft has thwarted.
	Yeah.
	Microsoft somehow.
	Microsoft says it has thwarted an attempt by hackers tied to the Russian military.
	Oh, tied to the...
	Oh, just one.
	They're tied with shoelaces.
	They're tied to the Russian military.
	...to disrupt the U.S. midterm elections.
	The company's digital crimes unit shut down six web domains meant to mimic sites victims might expect to get email from or visit, like Senate.group.
	Microsoft said it's sifting through evidence of the group's intentions after getting a court order to take over those domains.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	So if I understand correctly, this is something, this is a problem.
	You think?
	This is a real problem.
	So there were phishing domains, which would probably be like Microsoft with two Ts instead of an FT at the end.
	I'll just give an example.
	Yeah, something like that.
	So it would be email from support at Microsoft.com.
	And that could be phishing email.
	So they went to the authorities and said, hey, these guys are tied to the Russians, right?
	So just change the DNS to our DNS servers, I guess.
	This is horrible.
	They're supposed to take over the domain somehow.
	That can only be done through registration and DNS. That's what I'm saying.
	Well, that's crazy.
	I want to know.
	This warrants a lot of research.
	I was thinking that same thing.
	There's something up with this.
	This is actually an interesting story that needs to be explored.
	Yeah, but this is something...
	No, no, no.
	This is something for our dude's name, Ben, because the way, you know, the networks...
	Didn't we just give all that to the IETF... One of those...
	The telecom union.
	This is a while ago.
	Yeah, the UTA or whatever it is.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The UTA. I don't know.
	This is a very sketchy story.
	She talks too fast.
	Very poor presentation.
	But here's what's going on.
	You hire somebody that you have to pay money to.
	Someone could just come along and say, hey, that curry.com.
	You know, that could be used instead of my big company, Curry's, the electronics store in the UK, chain, quite a big chain.
	Yep.
	You know, we're very worried about this email that we saw floating around, you know, and it was a phishing email, so hey, like, give him, give his, which I've had for 35 years, give his DNS over to us.
	A dude named Ben can figure this one out.
	This is very, very bad.
	That's the one thing you've got on the internet.
	The one piece that really is supposed to kind of be neutral is DNS. Yeah, well that won't last.
	No.
	No.
	Please, whatever you do, do not send me a million alternatives for DNS. I know.
	You should host your own!
	We can do it in the cloud!
	Host your own!
	We have Hashspace DNS. DNSSEC. Yeah, I'm quite aware.
	We still have to stop this.
	This has to stop.
	Oh, I know!
	Blockchain DNS. There we go.
	That'll fix it.
	Yeah, that'd do it.
	Well, since we're doing tech news in the mainstream media regarding the Russians, the Russians who, by the way, apparently were responsible for all the negative press about the Star Wars movie that was a dud.
	I'm sure you saw those stories.
	Which movie are we talking about?
	Solo?
	Yeah.
	So I saw the movie, by the way.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	Because we have a couple of, I think, a couple of our people, our producers, that work on the staff there, I think, that did some of the art and some other things for that movie.
	And they spoke fondly of it, so I decided to watch it.
	And?
	It's terrible.
	It's a terrible movie.
	It's boring, and it doesn't make any sense, and it's a who-cares movie.
	Whatever happened to Solo in those early days, it's just boring.
	It's dumb.
	Go on.
	So from The Hollywood Reporter, Star Wars, The Last Jedi, negative buzz amplified by Russian trolls.
	The Last Jedi.
	Last Jedi, I'm sorry.
	I talked about, yeah, well, it's not Solo.
	Solo's worse.
	I don't know shit about that.
	I talked about The Last Jedi when I saw it.
	If you remember on this show, I said, I don't understand why I got so much positive reviews.
	It made no sense.
	It was completely off the rails 90% of the time.
	The storyline was full of holes.
	It was dumb.
	There was an academic paper that found that half of the criticism aimed at director Rian Johnson was politically motivated.
	The paper, titled Weaponizing the Haters, the Last Jedi and the Strategic Politization of Pop Culture Through Social Media Manipulation, That's because the movie stinks.
	It's got nothing to do with the director and everyone hating him.
	Sure.
	But it was amplified online by Russian trolls.
	Oh, brother.
	It's unbelievable because the online activity for that movie when it came out was all positive.
	Here is the latest Russian trolled hacking link to Barb whatever from New Zealand.
	And the kicker is at the end.
	When the World Anti-Doping Agency was hacked after investigating Russian athletes in 2016, fingers pointed to Russia.
	Now there's evidence it was to blame.
	And in a rare move, New Zealand's spy agency is speaking out.
	What we've seen here is Russian military intelligence undertaking quite malicious and deliberate cyber activity.
	There are three other examples too, including evidence Russia hacked and leaked emails from the Democrats during the US election in 2016.
	It's taken years for the GCSB to gather this evidence, but it hasn't been acting alone.
	It's been working with other 5i partners, Australia, the US, the UK and Canada.
	And the release of these findings has been coordinated to put pressure on Russia.
	Our Prime Minister joining her Australian counterpart in condemning the attacks.
	It's important that as an international community, we call out those who aren't following the international rulebook, and here is an example of that.
	New Zealand hasn't been affected by these attacks, but the GCSB says we can't relax.
	We've certainly seen evidence of this same actor scanning New Zealand networks looking for vulnerabilities.
	Another port scan brought to you in a minute and a half of breaking news about Russian trolls breaking in!
	Fortunately, we have been able to identify and disrupt that activity before it's caused destruction.
	Oh, the port scanning was going to cause destruction.
	We were able to interrupt it.
	Are you kidding me?
	No!
	And this is the GCSB. This is the spooks of New Zealand, the Five Eyes, making a big story about port scanning.
	Oh my goodness.
	It's despicable, I tell you.
	The fact that the public lapsed this crap up is beyond me.
	Well, it's lack of knowledge.
	Everything's a glitch.
	Come on, there's no reporting.
	Yeah, it's better to keep the public dumb and stupid, I guess.
	Well, with this kind of reporting, it's working out just fine.
	You, the last of the true reporters, now wiped from the tech press universe.
	Hey, me and Seymour Hersh.
	Not bad to be in that company.
	And, just for that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	You, the man who put the C in mac and cheese, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all the boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, feet in the air, boots on the ground, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to our troll room.
	Got some actual trolls in there today.
	Space Force!
	Yeah, some trolls in there.
	Very good trolls.
	No, it's too much fun.
	NoagendaStream.com is where you can listen to our show live as we produce it.
	It's exactly the same as you get on the podcast, but you do get the benefit of the chat room.
	By the way, in our show notes, we also have the chat room synchronized with the audio in the YouTube video, which is pretty cool.
	Go along with some transcripts and all kinds of good stuff.
	The show notes continues to be an additional resource that you get gratis along with the show.
	I want to say in the morning to Illuminadia, no sooner had she heard us talking about her on the previous show than she created a piece of art that was the one we just had to choose.
	This was episode 1073, Boof a Lemon, the title of that.
	And...
	And this was a very nice piece.
	There were a lot of lemon-boofing pieces of art that just were funny.
	A little bit much.
	Yeah, funny for us.
	And also, we tend not to use art and title in the same theme.
	Yes, we have a couple of rules you should know.
	Unfortunately, you can't...
	You can't know what we're going to title it.
	If we use something at the very beginning of the show, which you can't hear until we produce the show, or if we use something at the very end of the show, which you really might hear, but it's already too late to get the art in.
	Generally speaking, and if it has our pictures on it, that's no good.
	And if it's going to be...
	The art will supersede the title.
	That is very common.
	If the art has got kind of our idea of what the title is going to be, but the art is better than...
	It's so good that we have to pick the art, we have to come up with another title.
	Yeah, actually, I would say that we always pick art first.
	Yeah, art comes first, then title.
	Yeah.
	But sometimes we'll be like, oh, if we pick that art, we can't use that title I had in mind.
	That happens, and sometimes we bump the art, but only if there's a really good piece of art to back it up.
	As you can tell, there's a lot of work that goes into the post-production.
	We have to sit here as we twiddle our thumbs and make these massive decisions.
	Yes.
	So Illuminati made a nice piece.
	It was the Godfather type font type white on black background.
	And this was the monkey pox that we all have to be very afraid of.
	And it was, you know, a silhouette figure of a monkey attacking a person.
	Yeah.
	It had something really funny about it.
	It was just kind of oddly amusing.
	Yeah, but there were lots of good pieces.
	You even used one in the newsletter I saw.
	It's all lies.
	Yeah, I like that piece.
	You know, you had two paragraphs doubled in the newsletter for some reason.
	Did anyone mention that?
	Nobody mentioned it, of course.
	Yeah.
	Maybe I... That does happen, and I'll tell you why.
	Well, I won't tell you why.
	It's a mechanical thing.
	It shouldn't have happened.
	No, it's okay.
	I'm surprised they didn't catch it.
	Well, I'm always surprised that no one mentions it.
	I don't think anybody cares about the newsletter.
	I care.
	I mean, you know, sometimes they'll read some of the essays once in a while, like five people will do that.
	Five?
	I had a really good point to make in this newsletter.
	Five?
	I'm talking, I had the picture of Trump, Fred Trump's, I had the whole thing about Fred Trump.
	Fred Trump's house and everything.
	Yeah, it was good.
	His house, the little shack, you know what I mean?
	The whole thing about Fred Trump being a billionaire empire, the Fred Trump empire of the New York Times.
	In today's dollars.
	It's just bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	I mean, anybody that just laughs that up is extremely stupid.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, let's start thinking some people.
	We have one executive producer, which is ironic since I put a special executive producer idea into the newsletter.
	Nobody picked up on it.
	We've been coming short with our executive producers for some reason.
	We get a lot of associates.
	So today we get one executive producer.
	We've got really nothing to do with the newsletter or anything else.
	This is seronymous of Dog Patrick comes in every month.
	Sir Anonymous, I mean, he doesn't want titles, right?
	Besides just Sir?
	He's got his Sir Anonymous.
	Yeah, I know.
	He'd be a Duke by now.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Sir Anonymous is a dog patch in Lower Slobovia.
	He just wants to have his locations specified for some reason.
	And he makes it clear in this note from Sir Anonymous.
	As a part of my nightly duty, I hosted a meetup in Lower Slobovia.
	And pass the hat to fund something special as an engagement gift for Adam and to bridge the loss of income for John.
	Oh, how sweet.
	I ended up with a hat filled with seashells and beaded necklaces plus one smooth and polished stone.
	Ha ha ha!
	I next traveled to Dogpatch to do the same thing, and the meetup quickly became a drink-up.
	It was Dogpatch, after all.
	Taking advantage of the situation, I traded the high-quality collectible seashells and rare beaded necklaces for a case of good old Dogpatchian shine.
	I was able to sell the case of Shine by the bottle, all except one bottle as my commission, and I'm sending the proceeds to help fund John's age discrimination lawsuit and to buy a gift for Adam's engagement.
	I did keep the polished stone.
	I need some local cash for my next visit to Lower Slobovia.
	Enjoy.
	NJNK. Wow.
	Thank you so much, Seronymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
	And always a fine piece of content to go with as support of the show.
	That's nice.
	Yes, he entertains us with his charming writing.
	Yes, and we really appreciate the $100 in yesterday's dollars.
	Yes.
	$1,000 and 50.
	Fantastic.
	Gracias.
	Thank you.
	Levy onward to Levi or Levy.
	I think it's Levy Portonier in Lakewood, Colorado.
	$276.76.
	ITM, John and Adam, thanks for the TBPITU.
	It's truly an unparalleled experience.
	I could really use a jobs karma as I will be interviewing for a dude named Ben position that I've been gunning for a long time.
	I like the truly an unparalleled experience.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I think he's probably right.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	Monsieur Portonier.
	Jeff McReynolds, $250 and one penny in Heath, Texas.
	He writes in, it's time for my annual birthday donation.
	I turned 51 last Tuesday, September 20th.
	I'm sure he's on the list.
	And when I went to look at my donation records, I realized I hadn't donated since Big Show 1000.
	Bad on me, so I'm sending a larger than normal donation to make up for my being a slacker.
	I hope this helps as this is my favorite podcast and I would be extremely depressed if it was gone.
	You and me both.
	Congrats to Adams on the engagement and hoping to get a live stream wedding for the No Agenda fans.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Now, let me say something.
	Because, of course, I'm a guy.
	I do the whole thing.
	I set it up.
	I think I really did a great job on the proposal.
	But I forgot.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I was like, let's plan the wedding.
	I'm like, what?
	What?
	What?
	Do I have to do that?
	What?
	So I'm thinking, that's a great idea.
	We stream the wedding so no one has to come to Austin.
	We can be actually in any location in the world.
	Everyone can participate.
	You can be in the apartment.
	In the Cludeo.
	We could be anywhere.
	And instead of throwing a big wedding party, we send everybody a piece of cake and a stream URL. Yeah!
	Yeah!
	Yeah, that's romantic.
	Do it!
	Yeah, yeah.
	Send John C. Dvorak some jobs, Karma, thanks to those bastardes.
	At PC Magazine.
	My PCMag subscription has been cancelled.
	Let me know they had a subscription.
	I guess it's time to get serious about this podcasting thing.
	As for jingles, I'd like just the one.
	The Russian Connection spoof from the old Kermit the Frog Rainbow Collection.
	Connection.
	Or Connection.
	Yeah.
	And thanks for all you do, guys.
	I hope there's been eight years to hear.
	Yes.
	Thank you very much, Jeff.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Why are there so many memes about Russia and what Trump is trying to hide?
	Conway and Spicer say things are nicer than what they're willing to confide.
	So many dudes think that this is just...
	I know they're always...
	Let's play the whole thing today.
	It's almost done.
	Somewhere we'll find it.
	The Russia connection.
	The Donald, the Putin, and...
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	It is very well done.
	That's very well done.
	One of our best.
	By one of our best.
	Yes.
	David Weed, Three Rivers, Michigan.
	Walker Ostler did that.
	Well, he's one of our best.
	He is one of our best.
	David Weed in Three Rivers, Michigan.
	21312.
	Love the TBPITU. Best wishes to Adam and Tina for their future together.
	And best of luck to John in finding more lucrative gigs.
	And then he makes them coming up.
	That wasn't a gig, it was a career!
	A gig, then PC, mag, then...
	Cleaning out the PayPal account and requesting jobs coming from producers, especially for the wife and myself, as both our jobs are currently a bit shaky.
	Please also put me on the birthday list for October 5th.
	I keep up the entertaining analysis.
	I'm always looking forward to the next show.
	I hope to cross over into knighthood sometime next year.
	Peace and love.
	Oh, beautiful.
	Thank you very much, David Weed.
	And onward to Gretchen.
	Gretchen Wittig.
	Parts unknown at 200 bucks.
	I'd like to arrange a producer credit posthumously for the Blue Knight, Brian Wojtek, who passed away suddenly, unexpectedly, and well before his time in August.
	Oh my goodness.
	Yes.
	I first met Brian when I sat across the tail from him and his lovely wife, Kareth, a couple of years ago at a No Agenda meetup in Dallas.
	Adam had driven the Airstream of Consciousness up from Austin for the meetup.
	I remember, yeah.
	Brian and Keith had just moved to Dallas from Chicago, but they didn't know a lot of people.
	As it turns out, Brian and I worked for the same company in the same office downtown.
	But it was our love of No Agenda that really brought us all together.
	In the happy hours, brewery visits, MLS games, and general good times since, I've come to know Brian as a truly genuine, thoughtful, caring, and generous person, an exemplary member of the roundtable.
	He and Kareth had been college sweethearts, and the way they've supported each other throughout their lives is the stuff of fairy tales.
	No jingles, but please dole out a generous round of karma.
	To all of Brian's friends and loved ones, we will miss him dearly.
	I'd also like to request that his fellow knights and dames and all listening raise a glass and a farewell toast to our blue knight at today's knighting ceremony.
	Thanks for all you're doing to build this amazing community.
	Soon to be Dame G. Oh, Gretchen, here, here, raising a glass.
	Absolutely.
	Well, that sucks.
	Yeah, totally.
	All right.
	Yes, a karma to send you on your way, our friend.
	You've got karma.
	Sir D. in Holland's...
	Oh, Holland's Sherading, wow.
	Holland's Sherading.
	Interesting.
	In the Netherlands.
	ITM, gentlemen, an extra donation to show my support.
	He's in there with 200.
	Together with Sir Robert of Easton, Connecticut, who is visiting the Lowlands, I'd like to host a meet-up at my company near Ultrest, Friday, November 9th.
	9-11 in Dutch.
	Okay, so where is this going to be?
	Details will follow.
	Okay, so it's on the 9th.
	Wow, better hurry up.
	We only got five days.
	It's a month.
	Oh, it's November.
	November, November.
	I'm sorry, I thought it was October.
	Ah, I might be there.
	I might be.
	You could pack them in.
	It's actually kind of possible.
	Okay, that would be great.
	Sir D of the Hollands Rading.
	And he says, for current and future Frisian nights, they're from Friesland, the whales of the Netherlands, could you please add Zuckerboel and Jausterbeerenberg to the round table?
	Okay, done.
	That's some very, very traditional, old-school Frisian stuff.
	I want to mention something here.
	You have never done a meet-up in Holland.
	I have.
	A long time ago.
	Yes, yes, a long time ago.
	Oh, that's when we just, yeah, when the meet-ups weren't a big...
	Yeah, around episode 100, probably.
	Oh, yeah, that's too...
	Nowadays, you pack them in.
	Yeah.
	You should be able to get everyone from Holland, Belgium, Germany, Deutschland, and maybe some Swiss.
	Some Belgians, Deutschland, yeah.
	Maybe a Brit or two, although I don't know.
	Nah, it's too much work.
	Yeah, it is.
	Although, eh, easy jet is easy.
	Well, great, thank you very much, Sir D. And, yes, send us details so we can also send out, John can send something out targeted to the region.
	Yeah, Eric will do the same.
	He's got a separate mailing list.
	Oh, have you ever thought of merging?
	I like the idea of the way it works.
	Yes.
	And then, holy moly, look who comes in.
	And then, holy moly.
	Yeah, it's holy moly.
	He's a knight.
	Roderick Falo.
	Roderick Falo from the TPO podcast.
	Yeah.
	This is our guy.
	Now, what's the name of that podcast?
	Because somebody asked me.
	TPO. TPO. Okay.
	In the morning, Adam and John, thanks for the superb and entertaining media construction these last weeks.
	When the circus goes nuts, your show is needed more than ever.
	I think this donation gives me a place at the round table.
	I'd like to take a seat as Sir Rod.
	Keep up the great work going.
	I don't think he's on the list.
	He is not on the list.
	I'm putting it on now.
	Roderick Velo.
	I guess he just wants to be Sir Velo.
	No, Sir Rod.
	Oh, no, Sir Rod.
	Sir Rod.
	Sir Rod.
	Now, we have a Sir Rod Adams, but not just...
	It doesn't matter.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	There's no Sir Rod just like Sir Rod.
	Sir Rod, Sir Rod.
	Excellent.
	Holy moly.
	I'll say it again.
	I'm humbled.
	Holy moly.
	You're going to say that again.
	I'm humbled.
	You know, I'm humbled.
	This is a professional.
	This is a guy who I've worked with and I think is good.
	Oh, he's one of your old drinking buddies?
	From the pirate radio days.
	A running buddy.
	From the pirate radio days.
	Oh, how old is he?
	Well, my age.
	Maybe he's just 50, a little under.
	Watch him be 40.
	No, he can't be.
	He can't be more than three, four years younger than me.
	He may be older.
	I don't know.
	My age.
	Old.
	Old and white.
	That's not a big question.
	Old and white and a podcaster.
	That's marriage material right there, ladies.
	Where did all the white guys go?
	Are they in that valley they talked about in that Ayn Rand book?
	No, they've all become podcasters.
	We have another show.
	Well, first I want to thank these people for being our executive producer, our one executive producer, and our associate executive producers, and future nights.
	This is going to be exciting.
	These titles are real.
	You can use them wherever titles are understood and accepted.
	And if there's ever an issue, we will gladly vouch for you.
	We still have that much clout in the entertainment industry.
	We'll be thanking more people, $50 and above, in our second segment.
	And thank you again for supporting us.
	Our next show is coming up on Sunday.
	You can support us at Dvorak.org slash NA. That's right!
	Where old white guys go to podcasts.
	Spread the word!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Shut up.
	Do you want to mention here that we need a dude named Ben?
	Yeah, we do actually.
	November 2nd, John will be interviewing a, I would say, a A-level artist, person, let me put it that way.
	Person, not artist.
	See, I'm trying to confuse him and then you like kind of...
	Well, yeah, but...
	An A-level person.
	You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
	An A-level person in New York City.
	Just like when I interviewed Pchenik, we need a dude named Ben or a dudette named Bernadette who understands audio, has a microphone with either appropriate setup with Skype or processing with a laptop.
	We'll set everything up with you to test it first.
	Someone who's in the area who can go be on the production end, so a true...
	In Manhattan.
	In Manhattan, a true production job, which I think includes another credit as well.
	Yeah, definitely.
	It includes a credit.
	Yeah, it includes a credit on the show, which I think we did that for...
	Yeah, we did.
	We did the thing in Florida.
	So November 2nd, if you're in New York City and you really know how to do this and you've done mics and you've done a pod...
	Hey, are you a podcaster?
	Are you a Manhattan?
	November 2nd, give us a call.
	You'll enjoy...
	Yeah, I decided not to mention who this is going to be, but I can't figure out why I shouldn't tell you, but I'll think about it.
	But you would like to meet this guy.
	Yeah.
	And it'll be fantastic to listen to.
	Well, hopefully.
	Yeah, I think so.
	There's a new book coming out.
	That's kind of the tie-in that lets you do these things.
	Let me ease us into Kavanaugh for a second without playing anything from Kavanaugh.
	But Lindsey Graham, who now everyone, of course, has noticed how Lindsey's perked up and he's found his voice.
	I would actually say, Lindsey, 2020, think about it.
	Well, he did want to be president this time, and maybe he's working.
	He's learned a lot from Trump.
	He has, and I will prove it as he was on, I don't know, some bull crap.
	Well, before you do that, I have a clip I want to play.
	Remember when I said I was going to ease us into it?
	Yeah, well, this will ease us into it, because this is one of the things you pointed out in the last show, which is, while he is maybe running for president, the gay jokes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, about Lindsey Graham.
	Yeah, and more people are starting to see this, but it's everywhere.
	I've seen compilages of everybody making fun of Lindsey Graham with a gay joke.
	Well, here's Jimmy Kimmel.
	Some of the Republican senators put on quite a show of fabricated outrage today, in particular Lindsey Graham.
	Once Dr.
	Ford was safely out of the room, Lindsey Graham really laid down the law.
	He warned Democrats that if this is the new normal, if this is the way it's going to go, they better watch out for their Supreme Court nominees.
	As if Merrick Garland isn't out there somewhere judging a dog show right now.
	And once he got some camera time, somebody must have told Lindsey Graham Donald Trump was watching because he lit up like someone left a thumbtack on Liberace's piano bench.
	If you vote, no.
	Oh, brother.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, oh, brother.
	I'd say the same thing.
	So next time someone talks about the LGBTQ community, which of course should be LGBTQQIAPK, you should sound buzz off.
	There's no community.
	That's nasty.
	Yeah, I agree.
	But the thing is, everyone, they're tone deaf to it.
	Everyone who's doing this.
	I do, it's hilarious.
	I mean, I just don't, like, how can you not see what you're, okay.
	Remind me to come back to this after this Lindsey Graham thing, because there was another tone-deaf moment in the UK. So Lindsey Graham's on some damn show, and let's see, what is this first one?
	He comes out, he, oh yes, he needs a little work, he can't, the timing is a little off, I didn't quite hit it with the punchline, but he did something pretty interesting.
	When it was talking about Judge Kavanaugh and, in this case, comparison to things that have happened in the past.
	If the president is listening to you right now...
	And he could be, because he watches a lot of television.
	If he's listening right now, what would you say to him about his performance last night in which he openly disparaged a person who was alleging that she was a victim of sexual assault by a Supreme Court nominee?
	I said, hey, I can figure this out.
	Everything he said was factual.
	He's frustrated his nominee has been treated so badly.
	Factual is a personal degrading attack on someone who is a private citizen.
	You know, here's what's personally degrading.
	This is what you get when you go through a trailer park with a $100 bill.
	This is what you get when you go through a trailer park with a $100 bill, which, of course, the audience went, oh.
	See, this is not the first time this has happened.
	That's actually a reference to something somebody said.
	And James Carville.
	See, this is where he screwed it up.
	It was a great trap.
	It was a great idea because that's actually what James Carville said about, was it Paula Jones?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I think it was Paula Jones or one of the other women that Clinton...
	Yeah, he said, this is what you get when you run through a trailer park with a $100 bill.
	And the audience is like, oh!
	But then Lindsay couldn't pay it off by saying, yeah, that's what James Carville said about Paula Jones, Bill Clinton.
	But he's getting there.
	Well, at least he might have a writer.
	Yeah, but you've got to have delivery.
	You've got to have timing.
	He needs a coach.
	He needs a writer and a coach.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't take a genius to do this sort of material.
	No, it doesn't, but he's close.
	Here's one other piece from this.
	So President Trump went through a factual rendition that I didn't particularly like, and I would tell him to knock it off.
	You're not helping.
	Knock it off, Trump.
	But it can be worse.
	You can actually kill somebody's cat and puncture their tires to get them to shut up.
	So, you know, what he said...
	I don't even understand what that means.
	Well, you don't remember Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderick, so you don't.
	I do.
	I don't remember the thing about the cat.
	But what's the point?
	The point is that Donald Trump could have said something even worse, so we should be thankful?
	No, the point is that we've come a long way.
	We've come a long way since 1990.
	All right, all right, all right.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	No, no, wait a minute.
	Whether you like it or not, I really don't care.
	Here's the point.
	I have seen what happened to these women.
	In 1998, it came forward.
	I don't like what the president said last night.
	I'm the first person to say, I want to hear from Dr.
	Ford.
	I thought she was handled respectfully.
	I thought Kavanaugh was treated like crap.
	Yeah, well, boo yourself.
	Well, boo yourself!
	Okay.
	Here's the only coaching Lindsey Graham needs.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Who was interviewing him?
	It was the Atlantic Council, I think.
	One of those stage things they video and put online.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I just want to know if it's on a TV show.
	Well, does it matter anymore if it's on video?
	Well, it doesn't, but I just want to know who it was because the guy was kind of a douche.
	So here's my advice for Lindsey.
	It kind of just hit me.
	And if he really wants it bad enough, even if you're not, just come out as gay.
	Man, America's first gay president.
	Fantastic.
	And he can do that stuff.
	Oh, yeah?
	Well, boo to you.
	I mean, can you just imagine that?
	How cool that would be?
	Well, I don't think he'd be America's first gay president.
	He'd be America's third.
	First openly gay, running on gay platform president.
	He'd be the third gay president.
	I'm just saying, if he's not gay, he should give it a shot.
	Why not?
	It's not a bad strategy.
	Well, he should get the gay vote, you'd think.
	But you know the way things go?
	Because he's not a Democrat, gay Democrat, I think he might not even get the gay vote.
	Yes, bad gay.
	Yeah, you're right.
	He's the wrong kind of gay.
	Well, I still think it's a great idea.
	Because he's got the fire, you know?
	He's like, well, boo to you too.
	Yeah, he's finally got his backbone.
	And you say to Trump, you say, hey, cut it out, Prez.
	I like him.
	I think he's got something going for him.
	Well, he's definitely better than he was a year ago.
	Yeah.
	Well, sometimes this happens, you know, when...
	After McCain passed away, then...
	His mentor.
	Yeah, it was time for him to see...
	Before he could snatch the pebbles from his hand, he spread his wings and flew away.
	He is the new Maverick.
	Or Maverick!
	Well, I got it.
	Well, let's see what else we got here.
	I have a couple of things.
	I do have the...
	Democracy Now!
	is a little thing about this letter that showed up that Kavanaugh supposedly wrote.
	I don't have a lot of Kavanaugh clips.
	Remember, I led you into the Kavanaugh with my Lindsey Graham.
	That was the whole idea.
	The whole Kavanaugh thing is kind of like crapped out, it seems, at this point in time.
	Do you think maybe Trump reinserted that story into the New York Times just to get everyone talking about something else?
	No, there's no way.
	No.
	I think there was a mistake doing that story about Fred Trump, the billionaire empire guy.
	I think that was mistimed.
	I think it could have held off.
	I think that was just done to hurt Trump in the election or hurt the candidates that were Republicans.
	It's an anti-Republican thing.
	It was dumb.
	It didn't work.
	It was dumb.
	The only one I have for Kavanaugh that's kind of new is his letter, the supposed letter, and this is the FFFBART. Lawyers for another Kavanaugh accuser, Debbie Ramirez, said Tuesday the FBI had not interviewed another 20 witnesses Ramirez has identified.
	Meanwhile, the New York Times published a letter Kavanaugh wrote to his high school classmates in the summer of 1983 as he planned a beach week celebration on Maryland's coast.
	The letter, which Kavanaugh signed FFFFBART. Urges the classmates to, quote, warn the neighbors that we're loud, obnoxious drunks with prolific pukers among us, unquote.
	Kavanaugh was 18 at the time.
	Maryland had just raised its drinking age to 21.
	He signed the letter Bart, not Brett.
	Bart O'Kavanaugh is the name that his friend Mark Judge used in his book, Wasted.
	Good work, Nancy Drew.
	F-F-F-F-Bart.
	What kind of a name is that?
	Well, the whole F-F-F thing was supposed to stand for F-Them.
	Like, a couple Fs to them, then forget them.
	Yeah, it's derogatory towards chicks, man.
	It's funny when you're in high school, man.
	Why Bart?
	I don't know.
	He was from the 80s.
	Maybe it's a Bart Simpson reference.
	It might be, but why?
	It's the same time.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It could be a Bart Simpson thing.
	So here's a good question.
	Is this guy going to get confirmed?
	Do you think this is going to happen?
	Well, this is today.
	We have to make the decision, is he or not?
	Is it today?
	I thought it was tomorrow.
	It's Thursday.
	It's supposed to be Thursday.
	I thought the vote was tomorrow.
	Okay, well, that's better.
	I hope it is tomorrow.
	Because, you know, I'm still thinking Trump doesn't care, wants to get Baradun.
	No, I don't think Trump cares.
	He would probably be able to leverage whatever happens.
	Yeah.
	The vote is on Friday.
	Okay.
	Well, let's sit down.
	Here the two of us are.
	We follow this closer than pretty much anybody, especially news media.
	What do you think?
	I still don't see him making it through.
	And it kind of depends on how the cookie crumbles, but for Trump's agenda, in my mind, it will be best if he didn't go through.
	I agree.
	I think it would be best if he didn't make it through, and Trump's probably counting on...
	Now, the vote, I mean, he can still withdraw before the vote?
	Trump could withdraw him before the vote?
	I doubt it.
	No, he has to, it's got to be thumbs up, thumbs down.
	But in the overall scheme of, he's a Bush guy, he's a Yalie, he's clearly a dick.
	You know, why would you want this guy in the Supreme Court?
	Forget about all that's going on right now.
	They want him on because of his decisions.
	He's made like 300 plus decisions that all really appeal to the conservative heart.
	Did you see this Telegraph article in the UK? Let me see, where is it here?
	The Unbearable Dishonesty of Brett Kavanaugh.
	And it's from a journalist who writes...
	Oh yes, he used to be the editor of the Telegraph.
	Yes.
	Who writes about his run-in with Kavanaugh when Kavanaugh was on the Kenneth Starr team and...
	According to what this guy wrote, was strong-arming people into changing their testimony, official FBI 302 testimony.
	There was all kinds of threats going on, and it was specifically about the Vince Foster murder.
	I'm sorry, suicide.
	And, you know, where the FBI lost the pictures that showed possibly a neck wound instead of him shooting himself in the head twice with a gun in his left hand.
	And there's all this stuff surrounding Vince Foster, which, you know, I bring it up to people.
	They go, oh, really?
	Really?
	You're going to bring that up again?
	I said, it's really got some loose ends there.
	It truly is.
	I'm not saying, you know, the Clintons killed him, but of course the Clintons killed him.
	That's how it works.
	You know, be friends with the Clinton, the Clinton clan.
	You know, so that may come up again.
	I don't know.
	There's stuff that may come up.
	No, sorry.
	I don't think it's coming up.
	I think the vote will be taking place and it'll be over.
	And the whole thing with Vince Foster and the fact that Kavanaugh seems to be on the Clinton side, maybe an operative for the Clintons.
	You know, it's possible, but I'm guessing...
	Here's one.
	Are there any Republicans who could flip and say no that are currently up for re-election?
	No.
	Only two women.
	They're the only ones up for re-election?
	No, they're not up for re-election.
	They're just the two guilty women.
	So no one is voting on senators.
	These people have to be up.
	They're already laid out.
	There's three Democrats who are the ones that could be voted out of office if they don't make the right decision.
	And the two Republican women.
	There's five people that are on the fence.
	They've already identified all of them.
	Okay.
	I mean, I guess I'm surprised.
	Jeff Flake says he's voting for the guy no matter what.
	So Flake is not on this list anymore.
	Flake didn't say that.
	Yeah, when he did, I don't have the clip in front of me, but yeah, he said it.
	He said if we do the week, as long as we have the week of FBI. And they did.
	Yeah.
	By the way, here's a clip from Access Hollywood regarding Senator Flake, who, and I miss this and I'm pissed, the Global Citizens Festival took place again this past weekend in New York.
	I'm angry.
	I love watching those globalist douchebags.
	Oh, they're great.
	Here's a little Access Hollywood report, which of course is giggly.
	All right, we know somebody who ran into Senator Jeff Flake.
	LaKendra Tooks rejoins us once again.
	She was at the Global Citizens Festival this weekend, and he was there as well.
	He was there, and he wasn't in an elevator this time, but him and Senator Chris Coons were on stage together.
	I thought it was fantastic, a Republican senator and a Democratic senator coming together on stage.
	The whole crowd could feel it in that moment.
	Did they have sex?
	I was just, everybody was clamoring around him like he was a rock star.
	Everybody was shaking his hand, saying thank you.
	So many women were saying thank you.
	Even I said, I thanked him.
	You got a selfie.
	I took a selfie.
	I got a hug.
	I said, you're going to get this hug, whether you want it or not.
	I'm going to give you this hug.
	Good for you.
	Well, Senator Flake also was on 60 Minutes this weekend.
	Busy for...
	Yeah, he's a rock star.
	Let's play the clip that nobody's playing.
	Play this one.
	This is a local story.
	Jeff Flake's kid.
	But first, a disturbing video on YouTube.
	Senator Jeff Flake's son putting a gun to his head and pretending to kill himself.
	The video surfacing after this teenager was caught tweeting derogatory terms for blacks, Jews, and homosexuals.
	Thanks for choosing us this afternoon.
	I'm Katie Ramel.
	And I'm Steve Irvin.
	The senator is apologizing for his son's insensitivity.
	ABC15's Nabita Fergani joining us from the newsroom.
	Nabita, a lot of people are saying this shows just how tough it is for parents to raise kids with all of the technology out there.
	Yeah, things are a whole lot different right now.
	Kids have access to so many things.
	Even those free apps on your child's phone allow them to do some pretty creative but sometimes pretty disturbing things.
	And the best advice is to stay one step ahead of your child and talk to them when problems surface, which is something that is happening probably right now in Senator Flake's home after his son posted on YouTube and Twitter some very inappropriate comments towards blacks, Jews, and homosexuals using the n-word in some of his tweets.
	And most recently, disturbing video of his son holding a gun to his head and pretending to pull a trigger.
	There is no foolproof way from preventing your child from using these sites, posting, or even using violent apps.
	But it is important to explain to your kids that once something goes on cyberspace, there is no way to take it back.
	Don't put it on cyberspace.
	Okay, first of all, it was a plastic toy gun, which is just, it doesn't matter, but it wasn't mentioned in the report.
	She keeps saying, put a gun to his head!
	Put a gun to his head!
	It was a very obvious gray plastic gun.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, he's demeaning the ethnic groups.
	He's out of control.
	I mean, this is poor parenting.
	That's what it is.
	That's the point.
	I saw the videos.
	I looked at the tweets.
	It just looks like a typical kid who's all into the hip-hop culture.
	That's what that is.
	I don't know if it's poor parenting.
	But it never happened to my kids.
	Your daughter wasn't out there putting stuff like this online.
	My daughter has done lots of things that I'm not proud of.
	Poor parenting.
	Poor parenting.
	I'm a horrible parent.
	No, I don't know.
	You know, power and fame, it's an aphrodisiac.
	Jeff Flake, you know, he could get a little overwhelmed at the Global Citizens Festival.
	I did get a letter from somebody who met Flake.
	Unfortunately, I don't have it as part of today's show, but I'll bring it up for the next show.
	And he says the guy's so full of himself, he's just not even in the room.
	Yeah.
	Hey, I went back and checked, and I don't know if you have any update on the San Francisco Transit Terminal.
	Oh, yeah.
	You have an update?
	I don't have a clip, no.
	I have a verbal update.
	It definitely is American steel that was used.
	Yeah, well, let's reuse Chinese steel from now on, I guess.
	I mean, is that just an engineering mistake, or how does that happen?
	I would assume so.
	Like in the actual structure of the building.
	I think it was designed poorly or they specced it out wrong.
	I mean, it's always possible.
	That's pretty fundamental to this whole deal.
	Well, the whole thing is California is basically a corrupt state.
	And so when something like this happens, it doesn't surprise anybody.
	Right.
	So big news here in Austin, as the Army Futures Command has finally come to town with 500 people to start with.
	We have the Impact News newspaper, which is a weekly that everyone gets.
	And just a big front cover page.
	And so they've taken possession of a building, which is not far from here, 8th Street.
	So they have 500 people to start.
	But here's the kicker.
	They are bringing in, as reported by Impact, $16 billion to invest in startups in Austin.
	You're screwed, dude.
	Wow!
	No wonder Kim Jong-un had that map with the missiles pointing it to Austin.
	He knew what was up.
	This is where it's at.
	We got Spooks.
	We got Army Futures Command.
	We got Google.
	We got Facebook.
	We have Amazon's headquarters for Whole Foods is here, who are not happy.
	By the way, I don't know if you saw this note.
	We got a note from a YouTube reviewer who works here in Austin.
	And did you see that note?
	No, I did not.
	You may as well read it.
	Yes, Private Dingle.
	Hey, Adam and John, I live in Austin and work at one of these content moderator farms for YouTube.
	You guys are right on the money and on topic so far.
	And if you'd like any more insight, I'd love to provide details and answer any questions you may have.
	So get ready with your questions, John.
	Full disclosure, I am only a bottom-rung Tier 1, quote, agent.
	But have access to the YouTube policies we implement.
	All the juicy Alex Jones banning related details are unfortunately only for full-time employees and up.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Yeah.
	Obviously I'm not an FTE. YouTube contracts a company that hires workers who then get contracted by a different company.
	That's how I'm in the business.
	A buddy worked for Facebook in Austin in the exact same way dealing with the same companies.
	We've got to find out who these companies are.
	Yes, this is what we should be doing.
	I started in this project back in January and was assigned a queue after training, which is basically a school of videos that you specialize in through the training.
	I began in the adult content queue.
	Yes, there's a no agenda producer for you, ladies and gentlemen.
	Straight to the porn.
	I thought there was no adult content allowed on YouTube.
	Right.
	Well, these are the guys who look at it and then decide if it can be up or not.
	But as of about a month ago, I got reassigned to the violent extremism queue, which is video uploads of recruiting and or glorifying terrorist organizations, cartels and gangs, lone wolves, general incitement of violence, etc.
	That's pretty broad.
	Barring all the obvious horrible visuals, the porn queue was much more subjective policy-wise.
	I'd love to see the porn cue policy.
	I bet you would.
	Most of the agents I work with now are Arabic speakers, 80-90%, from all over the Middle East and seem well-equipped mentally to handle the material.
	It's a culture...
	I consider myself mentally resilient as well, and all is good so far.
	Keep checking in.
	We are your dead man switch.
	If I don't see an email from you at least once a week, I'm going to be concerned.
	I apologize if I'm all over the place, as there is a lot to clarify.
	I'll leave it at that for now.
	Please feel free to reply with any questions on the subject if you guys are interested.
	Thanks again to you and John.
	Yeah, I love this.
	We'd love to know a little bit more about the policies, and obviously we can keep you anonymous and do whatever we need to do.
	But please, check in once a week.
	We are your Deadman Switch, for sure.
	I want to make sure you're healthy.
	Yeah, I probably have a few questions about one thing or another.
	Well, let's compile a list and we'll send it off to him.
	I mean, how much do you have to watch before you realize it?
	The first question I'd have, and I just mentioned this right now, is do they...
	Inform the authorities when they see anything that's off.
	Good question.
	And do the authorities watch it?
	My question would be, how many days did you work there before you lost all faith in humanity?
	Would be my question.
	Because when you see what goes up and comes down or never makes it up, I bet it really messes with your perception of the world.
	Yeah, we're horrible as people.
	Well, I mean...
	Of all the people you know, who you personally know, and I would say the same thing for myself, actually would put up some gross video.
	No, no, I wouldn't say that.
	But of all the people I know, including you and me, who would say something horrible or mean about somebody in public, as long as it's on a social network, or if you say the name Mark Pugner, yeah, I think everyone's like that.
	We're ugly.
	Yes.
	You say something mean about somebody who's not the same as putting a head-chopping video on and chuckling over it?
	Tell that to YouTube and Twitter.
	They'll take you right down.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, hang in there.
	It's not going to happen.
	I have a health update because I've got something very spectacular that I wanted to share with you.
	I was at the voodoo doctor for the ragweed, which he fixed.
	Which he fixed.
	Actually, he put me back on a little bit of quercetin, which I take for the mold because it's an inflammation-reducing herb.
	Yeah, it's very famous stuff.
	It's supposed to be a good antioxidant.
	It makes you live longer.
	And he put me on, I think, Siloplex or some other potion in a pill.
	But then we were talking about stuff and he says, hey, I went to this seminar before a guy who was at UT and about some brain and memory enhancing stuff.
	And I said, ah, I'm fine, man.
	Take B12. He says, ah, this is better than B12. You'll notice it immediately.
	And I do.
	Immediately.
	I'm not kidding.
	I feel there's clarity.
	But you're susceptible to the placebo effect, to an extreme.
	Well, I want you to write this down because you should try these.
	I'm going to do it.
	It's Ginkgo.
	G-I-N-K-G-O. Ginkgo.
	Actually, Ginkgo Forte.
	And bacopa complex.
	Yeah, bacopa.
	I've got bacopa.
	You've got bacopa?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Do you take it regularly?
	No, I take it every once in a while.
	I've had it for a while.
	Well, he says that if you take both and then you run out of one, then you'll know if it was the ginkgo that was working for you or the bacopa.
	Um...
	So I'm not sure.
	But you think the bacopa...
	Maybe the...
	What is the...
	It's just an herb, right?
	Bacopa?
	Yeah, it's...
	Buzzkill Jr.
	turned me on to it.
	Ah, there you go.
	The scientist.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's looked at the molecule structure and he's like, it's just like meth.
	This is great.
	Okay, if Buzzkill Jr.
	approved, then I'm pretty sure the bacopa is the magic.
	Maybe.
	Just a little tip here from your No Agenda show.
	All right.
	Well, I've got a couple of things here.
	There's one thing I found very interesting, a very long clip.
	I cut it down to two short clips and took out the middle because the middle is just too long.
	But this is Michael Caputo, who used to work on the Trump campaign, and he thinks he knows.
	Oh, this is the guy who lost a lot of money, was sued.
	Didn't he have to go in and he was being accused of all kinds of stuff?
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	I think you're thinking of Cohen.
	No.
	Caputo maybe.
	But the point is that he thinks he knows who the letter writer is who wrote that anonymous letter.
	Oh, the anonymous letter.
	Ah!
	And I think I know maybe who he might be talking about and I'm going to mention it.
	All right, joining me right now, former Trump campaign director Michael Caputo.
	So, Michael, good to see you.
	Do you think the White House is giving credibility to the writer by these high-level officials coming out and saying, it's not me?
	Well, I think each one of those people has to do that, and the media, the New York Times in particular, has set that up.
	I believe the writer's a coward, but also I believe they're diabolical.
	I mean, the way they wrote that op-ed, or the ghostwriter wrote the op-ed, they dropped in words like lodestar to indicate that it might be Mike Pence, and words like first principles, very common to the speeches that General Mattis gives to throw some shade at him, and then they dropped in that Off-the-rails comment that comes from the Woodward book that's attributed to General Kelly.
	And that's, to me, gaslighting the president, which is very diabolical, into believing that one of his key aides is really plotting against him.
	But if it's insignificant, why is it the White House keeps talking about it, keeps throwing out its top-level folks to say or comment about it, it wasn't me, I don't know anything about this, it's a terrible thing, but they keep bringing it up, which only gives this writer more power, does it not? which only gives this writer more power, does it not?
	I'll tell you, I'm not one of the ones who believes this is insignificant.
	I've been screaming from the top of my lungs for several weeks now that we're going to lose the House of Representatives, the Democrats are going to take over, and that they're going to impeach the President in the first quarter of 2019.
	This op-ed to me is part of that strategy.
	This person, who I believe is in the senior ranks of the administration, wrote this in order to try and dampen turnout of the deplorables who would normally go out in droves to vote for the president's candidates, the Republican candidates for Congress in particular, so we can maintain control of the House.
	Let me tell you, Frederica, I'm fairly certain I know who it is.
	I've been going through this parlor game just like everybody else has, and I'm also completely 100% certain that the person who wrote this is on the list of people who said they didn't write it.
	Okay.
	Okay, so we've got a couple of possibilities here.
	Now, in the second, the next clip, which there's another clip missing, because it's too long.
	I just left it out, and I'm going to say what was in it.
	He says this person is a department head, and it's in a department where all the Trump supporters were ousted.
	IRS. Well, it could be the IRS. It could be the IRS. I didn't consider the IRS. Was all the Trump supporters ousted from the IRS? Probably not.
	Somewhere they were ousted.
	I know one place where I think a lot of them were ousted because they're re-orging the whole place.
	Oh, the parks and recreation?
	No, it's a TV show.
	Oh.
	Well, anyway, let's play the second half of this, and then there's a slight...
	he has one tell, which gives me a little hint.
	I believe the White House is getting closer to it.
	I love the fact that...
	Well, how come you know when they don't?
	Well, I believe they're getting there.
	I have my opinions.
	You know, I started with this.
	Who is the person who I believe hates the president the most?
	Who is the person in the administration who has screamed about him in their own private office and gone forward And purge their entire office of Trump people.
	That's where I'm looking at.
	The language of the op-ed, I think, is useless to look at because it's a ghostwriter.
	If we did like we did, remember when Primary Colors came out and they actually compared the writing through a software program and discovered that it was Klein that wrote that book.
	I believe that would be useless in this regard because ghostwriters write for dozens and dozens of people.
	It's not going to get us any closer.
	We'll be able to identify the ghostwriter, but then we'd have to get the ghostwriter to tell us who this person is.
	All right.
	Are you thinking it's a matter of days, weeks, or months?
	I'll tell you this.
	I think that, first of all, this person will never admit it because, in my mind, the author of this op-ed believes that she is a hero to the American people, that she, in fact, should be president instead of Donald Trump.
	And in my mind, I believe that the president should move forward with a team of people to discover who this is, but the president himself should focus on the midterms because we're going down a rabbit hole By gaslighting the president to believing his closest aides, with those clever words dropped in that op-ed, are plotting against him, they're sending him down a rabbit hole instead of off onto the hustings where he should be campaigning for Republican candidates so that we keep the House and embolden the Senate in support of the president's policies.
	If he focuses on this instead of the campaign trail, we're in real trouble.
	All right, well, he said she.
	That was pretty obvious.
	Okay, well, so I just kind of did a few things here to kind of, you know, for one thing, the writer was a professional, or the ghostwriter, whoever it was, but they had the idea of putting these little phrases in, which we spotted when we read the letter.
	Lodestar and the rest of it.
	So the thing was very well structured.
	It was structured professionally at a level where that was, like, not, it was non-trivial.
	It was high-end.
	Then it was Printed by the New York Times, which is connected to different agencies already.
	And they took it no problem.
	I mean, there's no way no one's going to get busted.
	So there's a connection in the New York Times.
	And there's one head of one of these major operations in the government who has a journalism degree.
	Who is this?
	Gina Haspel.
	Yeah, that would make sense because the connection with CIA, she's tightly connected to Brennan.
	He said only nice things about her coming in.
	Very good point.
	She's CIA. It's the defense against the spooks.
	We know this.
	We know this is where it's at.
	Oh, yeah.
	I can see that.
	Lodestar would work.
	She has a military background as well.
	That might be something she would say.
	Yeah.
	Well, good for her.
	We'll put it on her epitaph.
	Good for you, Gina.
	I don't know what they're going to do.
	The thing that's going on, which is kind of...
	I've been thinking about writing about it, but there's not much to write about, but there's a reorg that they're doing at the CIA, which is where they're getting rid of Trump people, of course.
	And they're recruiting heavily.
	She's out everywhere recruiting.
	So there is a...
	I mean, the CIA, if you recall, Trump gave a speech to the CIA regulars during his campaigning.
	Yeah, that was right after everyone, oh, how dare he do that in front of the wall!
	The wall with all the stars!
	Yeah, there was that.
	But he got a, you know, it seemed like a warm reception.
	I wonder if half those people are still working there that went to see Trump speak.
	So it just makes a lot of sense that it's a she, by the way, that's the guy I mentioned.
	And there's only so many shes, and most of them are like Betsy DeVos.
	I don't think she wrote this letter.
	Or the woman that's the head of Health and Human Services, Nielsen.
	Oh, yes.
	Doesn't seem likely.
	And so it just fits.
	And Gina's brought in some of her own people, which are ex-Brennan people, and they're continuing the Brennan program of modernization.
	If you look into it, it's the creation of this new data, the DDI. It's a new department that everything's going to be centralized.
	So now, if you want to out some spooks, you can...
	It's all right there.
	You just have to hack this one group.
	Mm-hmm.
	I mean, you have to remember that it was Petraeus and Brennan and one other guy that were all in office in 2010 under the Obama administration that got...
	Like 20 guys executed in China.
	The entire China CIA contingent was killed.
	And who was running the CIA at the time?
	It was these Obama hacks.
	I found the clip of Trump at the CIA. Want to listen?
	Just see if there's anything there?
	Yeah, sure.
	Like if Tom Brady's on the cover, it's one time because he won the Super Bowl or something, right?
	I've been on it for 15 times this year.
	I don't think that's a record, Mike, that can never be broken.
	Do you agree with that?
	What do you think?
	But I will say that they said it was very interesting that Donald Trump took down the bust, the statue.
	Oh, that was just all the campaign shit.
	Yeah, nothing there.
	Nothing, nothing there.
	Well, I think that's a very, very, that's a big possibility, Ter.
	That's fun.
	Well, good.
	By the way, Void Zero and Sir Bemrose have already delivered the answer to me.
	At Microsoft, the way they capture the domain is they go to the feds and then the feds, I guess they get a court order.
	And they served a court order against Verisign, who was a very big registrar, and they turned the DNS over, but they turned it over to Microsoft, which that part I'm a little unsure about how that works.
	It's like, well, turn it over to me and forward it to the No Agenda show.
	I mean, come on.
	Yeah, why don't we have the same opportunity?
	Yeah, that's right.
	They're just giving it away to Microsoft.
	It's racist.
	It's totally racist.
	Can't believe those guys.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I got a beef with John Cleese.
	And the main crux of my...
	John Cleese of Monty Python fame.
	And many, many, many...
	Yeah, he's been out and about.
	He's leaving Great Britain to move to it.
	No, no, no.
	He needs to leave because I've seen him on four shows now.
	I'm leaving.
	I'm leaving.
	I'm getting out.
	I'm leaving.
	He's Brexiting Brexit.
	I'm leaving.
	And so now he's on the morning show.
	I don't know if it was BBC or Channel 4.
	And he's, I'm leaving.
	And I just, there's a couple of oddities we need to discuss.
	First, the reason why he's leaving.
	Why he's decided he's going to be boycotting Britain.
	So you're leaving us.
	Oh yeah, well I'm going to buzz off in November because I'm fed up with the corruption in this country.
	And in particular with just how awful the newspapers are.
	And how the way in which they censor news.
	Make sure that people in England don't know certain things.
	Particularly anything critical to them.
	Because I don't think you can run a democracy until you have reasonably reliable information out there to help people make up their minds how they're going to vote.
	But do you think in one sense, though, the nice thing about this country is that people can express all sorts of opinions and we're able to do that, which isn't true in other countries around the world.
	Well, it's probably not true in Russia or Myanmar or someone like that, but I don't think...
	I mean, what people don't know, for example, is that quite recently the European Broadcasting Union did a poll of 33 European countries, and they asked a thousand people in each country...
	What's your level of trust in the printed media?
	And England, UK, became bottom.
	So it was very low.
	Not very low.
	Bottom.
	But maybe we're not very trustworthy.
	Hang on a second.
	Four years in a row.
	I played this clip.
	Not one flute.
	No.
	It's almost the same story.
	Four years in a row, we have the press that's the least trusted press in Europe.
	No.
	It's the same story, but the next piece is different from his usual appearances, because now he's starting to piss me off.
	Remember what he just said is, the press is horrible in the UK, we're the bottom, we're the bottom of the 33, which is a nice little number there.
	Yeah, like...
	We're the bottom!
	We're the bottom!
	But you're moving close to these states and where a lot of your work is, but of course they have quite an interesting leader over there as well.
	Would you think that the political situation, does that appeal to you more over there, John?
	Oh no, no, no.
	I wouldn't go to America at the moment if the place is stark staring mad.
	Okay, Cleese.
	Noted.
	Bro.
	I mean, the first time that Trump has ever spoken to an intelligent audience that wasn't dependent.
	Now remember, he just was very clear how poorly the news is communicated.
	Let's see what he's about to say.
	On his patronage was at the United Nations General Assembly two or three days ago when they laughed at him.
	It's the first time he's ever spoken to an intelligent audience.
	He coped very well with that, though.
	His comeback was very...
	Well, yes, but that's trivial, Ben.
	It's true that he said a nice remark.
	He said, I wasn't expecting that.
	But the fact that the leader of the free world, in quotes, talks to the United Nations about his great achievements, and they all laugh at him, that's important.
	Now, is that exactly what happened, John C. Dvorak?
	No, we played the actual real clip from the United Nations.
	That's not what happened.
	So here's the guy bitching about the press and the way news is...
	Yeah, because the press is the one who reported it that way.
	Yeah, but then this is his truth and he's laughing and, hey, I'm boycotting you.
	I'm boycotting Monty Python.
	I'm boycotting Python the code.
	Screw you.
	I'm not coding in Python anymore.
	I'm not coding in Python anymore.
	They did do something which he complied with, which I have to say, I'm surprised to do that.
	You know, by the way, you're right.
	I played this clip.
	It was almost word for word.
	Almost word for word.
	About a month ago.
	And he comes out and it's like a scripted bit.
	It's the same appearance over and over again.
	And the first one was when the mic fell off.
	We didn't even play the clips then.
	Anyway, so then they do something which I find very rude.
	You have a comedian on or a funny person.
	Hey, before you go, tell us a joke!
	Which is, it's so rude.
	You know, I've seen people go up to singers and, hey, sing something for me.
	Why don't you just kiss my ass?
	Anyway, they do it and he complies.
	And it was pretty good.
	Now, just before we go, John, please, you've got to give us a joke to end on.
	A joke.
	One I heard last week, which I really love, is how can you tell whether someone is a vegan?
	I don't know.
	How can you tell?
	Because they tell you.
	Again.
	I'm going to show my school by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Thank a few people for helping us out.
	Starting with Sir Uncle Dave and I of the retired old farts in Las Vegas, Nevada.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	And since he did send a check-in, I do have a note from Uncle Dave.
	Uncle Dave is one of the old mainstays on the Dvorak blog.
	He used to work in the gaming industry.
	Oh, in Vegas, yeah.
	Yeah, he used to.
	He's got good information from him.
	Um...
	Although other matters have been in the news lately, I thought you might be interested in my travels in the medical insurance land.
	It's almost been six-month anniversary of my insane car accident that I still marvel at having survived.
	The Thursday before, I bought a newer used car.
	On Friday, I retired from my job.
	And on Monday, I set up for a road trip.
	The next morning, I was driving along just fine.
	Next thing I remember, I woke up wondering what happened to my car, which was lying on its side.
	All airbags deployed.
	Windows and sunroof smashed.
	In front of what was left of the car, I think, was a boulder.
	Wow.
	You got hit by a boulder or something.
	Talk about what are the chances.
	The high patrol cut me out of the car and I was airlifted by helicopter to the hospital where I stayed for 10 days with a fractured sternum, broken ribs and a broken wrist, lacerated kidney and lacerated spleen and assorted other injuries.
	Boing.
	I'm healed up now with just some minor pain and lack of strength in my wrist and some pain in my knees.
	I've had enough MRIs, CAT scans, and related stuff to last me for more than a while.
	Luckily, after retiring still a year away from Medicare, I signed up to continue my company's insurance via COBRA. That always seems a scam.
	The insurance company's website provides a page.
	Luckily, my total out-of-pocket co-pays were only about $1,700.
	If I hadn't had the insurance, it would have been on the hook for nearly $170,000.
	Wow.
	And he's on the mend now?
	Everything's okay?
	Yeah, and he talks about the negotiated rates, because we've talked about this on the show.
	Oh, the negotiated rent is 30 cents to the dollar.
	Yeah, something like that.
	And he goes on with a long exposition.
	I may put this in a newsletter.
	Oh, good.
	Anyway, luckily I had good health insurance.
	I had to pay for the whole non-negotiated rate of $170,000.
	The helicopter cost most of this hospital and everything else.
	No way I'd be retired now, and I'm able to afford to donate.
	Thanks for what you guys do.
	As I always say, I don't always agree with your analysis or views.
	Who does?
	But it's refreshing to hear you on our idiotic political and media circus, Love and Life are the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Thank you very much, Uncle Dave.
	And he wants some I Survived Karma.
	Okay, coming up for him.
	Blair Wilson in Sammamish, Washington.
	She says, hope this is my lucky episode.
	We got some karma for you at the end, too, along with Uncle Dave's.
	Kohaizama in Tokyo.
	Hello, Tokyo.
	Baron Latican from Houston, Texas.
	Sir Craig in Russia.
	C-R-A-A-C. I don't know how that might be pronouncing that wrong.
	And we got a Russian.
	Good.
	We got him!
	It says I-E, which I think is Ireland, isn't it?
	Craig.
	Yeah.
	Don't forget to mention the amounts.
	You haven't been mentioning amounts for some reason.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	These are all hundreds.
	Baron Latican's 100.
	Sir Craig's 100.
	John Robinet's 100.
	Stephen Tomaser is 99.99.
	And he...
	D-douching, sure.
	Hey, D-douche.
	Hey, what's going on?
	Uh-oh.
	No dedouching to me.
	You've been dedouched.
	That's odd.
	Peter Chong, 81.
	Mark Milliman, 61, 87.
	What happened?
	Also says he noticed he hadn't donated in a bit and this is the amount in his PayPal account.
	If you get extra money in your PayPal account, think of us.
	We used to push that more in the past.
	Fairfighter 6.
	A lot of people don't have PayPal accounts and just use their credit card for these.
	Smallboob B6006. Sir Luke, the Baron of London, 5555.
	Henry Cocosoli in Livonia, Michigan, 5510.
	Sir Chris James, double nickels on the dime, 5510 in Sturgis, Michigan.
	Sir Tom Darry in DeForest, Wisconsin.
	M. Andrew Jones, Baron of America's Mountain.
	I put a note here that he has a note, if there's anything important.
	I did have Drew Williams here.
	Andrew Jones.
	Oh, he sent us a book, A Story of Numbers.
	Oh, you know, I started reading that.
	Fascinating.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, I mean, only because just recently someone taught me about the numbers 3, 6, and 9, and taught is a big word, but you start to look at some interesting aspects of those three numbers.
	And so the story of number is he starts at number one and kind of brings in universal concepts, mathematical things.
	It's a very small book.
	Yeah, it's very small, but it looks like a winner.
	You can get mandrewjones, all one word,.com.
	You might get to pick up a copy there, and he's recommending it.
	Yeah, I'm at number five.
	And he messages that Mark Gagnier noted, no agenda artist designed the beautiful cover.
	Oh, cool.
	It is a beautiful cover.
	It's true.
	It's quite nice.
	All right.
	I have us all to know from Drew Williams.
	I may have passed him up.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, Drew sent in a copy of Mad Magazine from 1966.
	Oh, excellent.
	That's a classic.
	Really a nice copy, too.
	But he also gave a patch from, I'm going to read this graph, encloses a patch from Gnawbone Camp.
	Just when I first started listening, some guy from Gnawbone, Indiana, donated and Adam joked about the name.
	No, I mentioned Gnawbone because I've been to Gnawbone.
	Adam never heard of the place.
	I don't remember anybody from Gnawbone ever donating.
	So the patch is mine.
	Just to let you know where the patch ends up.
	Alright.
	Onward.
	Andrew Martonic.
	Uh, $50.33 and the following people...
	Hold on, hold on.
	First-time donor as well.
	He wants to credit this donation to his brother Chris Martonic Jr.
	because it's his birthday.
	He'll be 33.
	He's on the list.
	Yeah, so I'll give him a de-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	And, uh, human resource karma for Chris who's about to have his first child on the way as well.
	I'll put that on at the end.
	Villarreal, Villarreal, 50.
	These are all $50 donors.
	Name and location, if applicable.
	Jeremy Cartwright, Rockford, Illinois.
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	Aymouden.
	Aymouden, Netherlands.
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	In Bothell, Washington.
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	Scott E. Knight, another lost wages Nevada guy.
	Walter Lenn in, I don't know, Gruppingen, Gruppingen, someplace in Deutschland.
	Somewhere in Deutschland with lots of boom louts.
	Unicode, sorry.
	But we love the Deutschlanders getting into the show.
	Come on, Deutschland!
	Here's the Hoff!
	Matthew Januszewski in Chicago.
	Sir Matthew, I believe.
	And last but not least, John C. Horner in Bay City.
	I'm sorry, Bay St.
	Louis, Mississippi.
	So I want to thank all these folks who are helping produce show 1074.
	1074.
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Oh, that's it?
	That's the entire list?
	That's it.
	That's all we got.
	There is no more.
	Well, thank you all very much for supporting your best podcast in the universe because you're producing.
	It's exactly how production works.
	A lot of people do a lot of different things and play different roles, but this is your role and we're very appreciative of it.
	You had an 11-11 pitch in there.
	We got some people subscribing to 11-11.
	Yeah, I don't know, you can't tell on this list whether it's weekly, the weekly 11-11, which is less than $50 a month, so it's actually kind of a bargain for people who like to give true value for value.
	Well, and the bargain depends on how you value stuff.
	You go to the movie theaters, it's our classic example, you know, you're in the movie, it's dark, you're with a date maybe, you have some popcorn and something to drink, it's 50 bucks.
	Yeah, and then you've been brainwashed, and we'd like to counter...
	Yeah, we'd like to help you.
	Yes, the antidote is here, exactly.
	Thank you again.
	We really appreciate this, and we will have another show for you coming up on Sunday.
	Remember to support the show at...
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Here's the karmas as requested.
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	It's your birthday, birthday I'm no blood champion Today is October 4th, 2018 Here are the birthdays on the list.
	We have Jeff McReynolds with a belated birthday.
	He turned 51 on September 28th.
	David Weed celebrates his birthday tomorrow on the 5th.
	And Andrew Martonic says happy birthday to his brother Chris Martonic Jr.
	He turns 33, the magic number, tomorrow.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Okay, so even though it wasn't on the list, we have a very important nighting today.
	By the way, the TPO podcast is also on No Agenda Stream.
	Noagendastream.com.
	It's in Dutch.
	Let's play it after midnight.
	It'll be during the day there.
	It's after midnight.
	It's always after midnight somewhere.
	Well, this is true.
	All right.
	Grab your sword.
	Grab your blade.
	We need this.
	Yeah, I got it.
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	The best podcast in the universe.
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	Very proud to have you here at the round table.
	The No Agenda Knights and the Dames.
	And I hereby proudly pronounce the KD... Surad, night of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	And, of course, for you, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, perhaps some warm beer or cold women, early times in BF4, cross-chip and cane breaks, chilled potato, Polish vodka, parliaments and pale ale, pog and poi.
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	Mutton and Mead.
	You too, Sir Rod, can head over to noagendanation.com slash rings, and Eric DeShield will take your measurements there, and we'll get everything off to you as soon as possible.
	And I very much look forward to you tweeting out a picture of your ring and your ceiling wax and your certificate.
	Title changes.
	Turning faceless legs.
	Title changes.
	Don't want to be a douchebag.
	One title change today is Sir Robert of London has upped in the peerage, and he now becomes a baronet of the No Agenda show.
	And that is all reflected, hopefully, somewhere on the peerage map, itm.im slash peerage, or dvorak.org slash peerage.htm.
	Drop the L for extra lovin'.
	Never drop the mattress.
	Extra S for savings or something.
	Yeah, the P. I don't remember the P. Oh, yeah.
	You saw the New York cable TV had the extra, yeah.
	Let's see.
	I got the brain-eating amoeba clip.
	Let's do it!
	Well, brain-eating amoeba.
	Nice.
	Does it need an intro?
	Nah.
	Known officially as Nagleria fowleri, it lives in warm, fresh water, enters the body through the nose, and though cases of infection are rare, almost always proves fatal.
	While it's unclear where 29-year-old Fabrizio Stable came into contact with the amoeba, a Waco, Texas surf park he visited prior to falling ill is being inspected by the CDC. After Stable returned home, he complained of a severe headache and soon after experienced fever and brain swelling.
	He was declared brain dead on September 21st, just five days after the headache appeared.
	Wow, you should have played that right after I told you I was wake surfing here in Austin.
	I definitely got some Lake Travis in my nose.
	Yeah, did you get a headache?
	Now that you mention it, well, let's stick in Texas for more stupid news.
	It's raised interest and concern, a business that would rent robot sex dolls, a franchise of Canadian-based kinky dolls, planning its first U.S. location to have been located in the Galleria area.
	That's Houston.
	Stunning some neighbors.
	Stop a second.
	Stop, stop.
	You know...
	I think it's somewhat sexist and probably rude to always, always assign these stories to the women reporters.
	Because, you know, they've got to be galled by this whole thing.
	I mean, female-dom just in general.
	Well, it's not like we don't assign the Black Lives Matter stories to the African-American journalists because we do.
	Yeah, well, I don't know if it's the same, but okay.
	Okay, that's a good point.
	By the way, the Sexy Doll Company, whatever they're called, they also have male dolls.
	Yeah.
	Rather intimidating, I might add.
	I was very shocked.
	I can't imagine that they would allow this type of business.
	Wow!
	Listen to this, Fry.
	This is great.
	She almost sounds like what's-her-face.
	Ford.
	No, no, from the Times, former Times.
	Former New York Times woman, yeah.
	What's her name?
	The original Berkeley Hummer.
	Here we go.
	Stunning some neighbors.
	Well, I was very shocked.
	I can't imagine that they would allow this type of business.
	To go into this area of town, much less anywhere in Houston.
	The location wasn't released by the company.
	Jill Abramson, that's her name.
	No permits filed with the city, but Wednesday, public works inspectors were alerted to this building on Richmond and Chimney Rock saw work in progress in an office space without proper permits.
	They red-tagged it, ordered work to stop.
	By then, the property manager had already ordered the would-be tenants out.
	He says two men told him they were opening an art gallery.
	A statement today from the property manager's attorney reads...
	After a few days passed, my client discovered the true nature of the business and never agreed to signing a lease for what was misrepresented as an art gallery.
	My client wants no part in this story or any association with any type of sexually oriented business.
	End quote.
	We contacted the owner of Kinky Dolls for comments.
	No response yet.
	It's possible another Houston location will be sought, but it's already on the radar by Public Works and a petition drive opposing the business.
	So this was the brothel, the proposed art gallery.
	And they're not robots.
	They're just real dolls.
	They're not robots.
	But there's nothing...
	First of all, if guys want to go to a place of business where you insert your penis into some rubber, who cares?
	It's not prostitution.
	It's not illegal.
	Is it illegal?
	It's an illegal business?
	It's lewd.
	And as I said, they also...
	Well, yeah, that would qualify, I guess.
	But this is an obvious PR move by the Kinky Doll Company.
	It's not like the Kinky Doll Brothel Company.
	Come on!
	I don't know what to make of it.
	They look pretty good.
	I'm not one to judge.
	If that's what guys want to do, power to them.
	Wow.
	I don't know about the power to them part.
	I did listen to a bunch of democracy.
	You said, hey.
	You never said, hey, so I got something cool over here, kids.
	Come take a look at my school bag.
	Hey, girls.
	So I've been listening to Democracy Now!
	So I knew that in any one show, they're going to find something to blame on global warming.
	Oh, yes.
	They signed on to the, you know, the global warming people, they went around saying, you're not reporting enough on this.
	You're not mentioning it enough.
	You should mention it on every newscast.
	I'm not joking.
	They went around, a lot of these pressure groups went around to these reporting operations and said, it should be mentioned on every newscast.
	Nobody paid any attention to them except Democracy Now!
	people.
	A volcano on the island of Sulawesi, where Friday's earthquake occurred, has erupted, spewing volcanic ash into the air, further complicating rescue efforts from the tsunami and earthquake.
	Meanwhile, scientists are warning that rising sea levels due to climate change will make future tsunamis like last week's disaster even more destructive.
	Yeah, yeah, that's right.
	By the way...
	I'm looking out the window again.
	How are the mudflats, John?
	Have they changed at all?
	In fact, the other day, they were extended way out into the bay.
	I don't know.
	There must have been a super low tide.
	How can that be?
	How can that be?
	It makes no sense.
	It makes no sense.
	Because Australia is a sponge.
	Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn.
	This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
	All right.
	San Francisco Bay, still good.
	Mudflat's still in order.
	Everything's okay.
	Yep.
	Very nice.
	You know, I've tried to get an understanding of the USMCA, the NAFTA replacement.
	USMCA. Yeah, that joke was made on MSNBC of all places.
	I can't believe you did it.
	Because the former New York banker was talking about it mockingly.
	No, nothing really changed.
	I said, well, wait a minute.
	I haven't read it.
	Can we actually read this thing?
	Is it legible for mere mortals?
	Or is it one of these where, in Article 39, Section 25B, C, the word they will be changed to Z. If it's one of those, it's going to be very difficult to parse.
	I really want to understand what the changes are.
	And what I do understand is that more vehicles will have to be produced, more vehicles that would have been made in Scandinavia or Mexico have to be created here.
	And then the banker was like, and he put a TPP thing in there!
	I guess insinuating that, I don't know, the TPP was good, which is the Mexican minimum wage.
	And the banker goes, no Republican would ever want minimum wage for anything!
	I said, what point did you not figure out...
	Is this the way this guy talks?
	Yes, exactly like that.
	At what point did you think Trump was a Republican?
	Well, no, and I nailed him with that.
	He's like, oh, okay.
	I have another red stripe.
	Yeah, I'd like to read it.
	I'd like to understand what the changes are.
	And, you know, we can sell cheese.
	There should be somebody that did this for you.
	No, you all said, and we can sell cheese to Canada.
	Yeah, that's one of the big deals.
	I know the dairy stuff.
	He was all mocking about it.
	I said, hey, man, I need to read it.
	I don't know.
	This, I don't know.
	What I do know is...
	Have Briny read it.
	Oh, please.
	If I could find it, I'd read it, but I don't see anything of any use yet.
	Have Briny read it.
	She's too busy doing stand-up.
	You've ruined her.
	I gotta tell ya.
	The story went around and I really was desperate for a clip because these things are just much better with a clip.
	The University of Manchester.
	Oh yeah, I'd love to see a clip of this.
	In fact, I still find the story to be something of a practical joke or something.
	Well, I did find a BBC story, but they'd done the video in a very weird way where instead of asking the question, the question was just in a title.
	I hate that.
	And then the answer.
	So clipping makes it very complicated.
	Yeah, I hate that.
	RT does that constantly.
	Yeah, it ruins...
	It's to kill the clippers.
	Well, it's working.
	But I've still done some work on this for a couple of seconds.
	So one student of Manchester, who I guess was in some kind of student body that came up with this, they decided to ban clapping.
	And from now on, instead of clapping, we will do jazz hands.
	Jazz hands.
	You have to wear big white gloves.
	Yes, and you have to rotate.
	So basically you put your hands in the air and you just rotate them like you're clapping.
	Well, here's this interview.
	It can trigger issues for students who have autism, sensory issues, and deafness.
	And it can discourage them from being present at those events.
	So the whole reason for this taking place is because it could frighten deaf people.
	Being a person with some deafness myself, I'm like, no.
	But you have anxiety or triggering for applause, which is a part of life.
	Applause is a part of life.
	Everywhere in your life, and it is typically a happy, I think they're depriving people of happiness and support and showing it's something human beings do together.
	Like birds, when they fly left or right and you see the flock of birds go, humans will start to clap and we do the wave, we do all kinds of things.
	It's a beautiful human experience.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, when you don't clap, then I think people are just not even going to be cheering.
	It's confusing.
	You know, the clap comes together.
	You look like retards.
	Which visually looks like this.
	People have more informally heard it referred to as jazz hands, but that is the official British Sign Language version of clapping.
	Do you know of other people who've got hearing difficulties who it would bother?
	I don't.
	So this is a deaf kid, and they show him from behind first with his hearing aids.
	I don't know how bad it is, but he's got similar hearing aids to what I have.
	And so now he's saying, hey, you know, just talking to the guy and ask a very interesting yet important question.
	You know, the people who've got hearing difficulties who it would bother.
	I don't personally, so I don't know many students who have the same issues.
	Oh, so there's not that many deaf children there, but okay.
	I wonder who this is for, then.
	Well, a little bit, yeah, I suppose, yeah.
	But, yeah, I mean, if there are those who do experience those problems and would like that, I think it would be fine to implement it as a policy.
	So the BBC could not find a child who actually was bothered by the clapping for which this policy was implemented.
	They could not find a single one.
	Because there probably isn't one.
	When did this ever become an issue?
	But then...
	I think somebody did this as a joke.
	Well, here's the real question.
	If you remove the clapping and you only do jazz hands, what do the poor blind students do?
	I think that that is a very important issue that you raise.
	I think that where we are at the moment in this conversation, this is the solution that we currently have.
	Oh, brain fry!
	This is against the blind.
	This is bigotry.
	It's illegal.
	It's illegal.
	It's just about the blind people.
	If this happened in America, the ADA should be on that.
	Yeah.
	This is not okay.
	They have no cues.
	No cues.
	Don't even know what's going on.
	And then they're completely oblivious to what's going on.
	This is...
	Yeah.
	And you're ruining...
	Okay, but more importantly, you're removing a very important human experience that can only be...
	And you don't know these other people.
	You're doing something together.
	It's fantastic.
	This is super bad.
	Super bad.
	It's going nowhere.
	It's just maybe...
	I agree.
	I think it's dumb.
	It's laughable and it's going to go nowhere because nobody's going to put up with this crap.
	At some point people go, nuts to you.
	I'm clapping if I feel like it.
	It's unacceptable, I tell you.
	Unacceptable.
	Well, I'll tell you about unacceptable.
	Here we go.
	Yes.
	I got a clip here that's unacceptable.
	This was glossed over.
	I had to go do some research because, of all people, Amy Goodman's giving this report, and she does choke up in the middle of the report, and I think I left it choking up in.
	And then she continues.
	But she doesn't even comment on this, and they never do comment on this.
	I think it's an abomination.
	This is the woman...
	The women winning the Nobel Prize.
	In Canada, University of Waterloo professor Donna Strickland will share the Nobel Prize for Physics for her work on creating advanced lasers.
	Strickland is just the third woman ever to win a Nobel Physics Prize and the first since 1963.
	Strickland's prize comes just three weeks after astrophysicist Jocelyn Bell Burnell was awarded the special breakthrough prize in fundamental physics 50 years after she made a historic astronomical discovery only to have her male advisor take credit and receive the Nobel Prize for her work.
	Bell Burnell will donate her $3 million award to fund scholarships for women, refugees, and other underrepresented groups.
	Okay.
	Let's name some names.
	I have the paper here.
	Oh.
	This woman, a dame, by the way, Susan Jocelyn Bell Burnell, this was in 1967.
	She's probably old.
	But she's a dame of the order of the British Empire.
	Let me read this and I got the names of the guy, the creep that stole her material.
	And the irony is the guy said she's full of shit.
	Belle Burnell was a doctoral student at physics at Cambridge when she first noticed a series of mysterious, highly irregular blips in the – or regular blips in a readout of a radio telescope in 1967.
	Further observations showed that the pulses were occurring 1.3 seconds, every 1.3 seconds, creating barely perceptible squiggles in her data.
	Belle Burnell's advisor, Anthony Hewish – Was at first skeptical of the findings, dismissing them as artifacts in her readings.
	But Belle Burnell was certain it was not just artificial noise.
	In early 68, her work paid off with the publication of the first scientific paper documenting pulsars.
	She found them.
	And it goes on with another graph, and it says here, the discovery of pulsars was such a big deal that in 1974, hue-ish, The guy who told her she's full of crap shared the Nobel Prize in Physics for it alongside fellow astronomer Martin Ryle.
	It was the first time the prize had ever been awarded in the field of astronomy.
	First time ever.
	But Bell Burnell's contributions to the breakthrough find went unmentioned.
	This is a disgrace.
	And Amy just runs through, this is more of a disgrace than the bullcrap, these hearings, and this woman, Ford, and her phony rape.
	I mean, her real or imagined imagination of an almost rape.
	She never got raped.
	I mean, it seems to me that this is a bigger deal.
	This is the kind of thing that women should be, like, shaking their fists about.
	All up in arms about, yeah.
	But no, they don't even name this Hughish guy in the other one.
	I mean, this is an abomination.
	Good point.
	But she did get one, and they didn't give her for her original Pulsar stuff.
	Did they take the Nobel away from the other guys?
	I think they should have.
	Yeah, like Milli Vanilli.
	Yeah, same thing.
	Anyway, I found it very annoying.
	I found it annoying the way it was not covered.
	No names were named.
	Amy, the big social justice warrior, just blows through the story and goes on to something else.
	Very, very sketchy.
	It's probably a Tory.
	That's probably the reason.
	Let's see, a couple clips left here.
	Being a vaper myself, I tracked the vapage.
	What's going on?
	Dexter, of course, in Gitmo Nation East has his e-liquid company.
	Kid's gone from delivering weed in Domino's pizza boxes to he has like 15 employees.
	Very proud of Dexter.
	So I've given you a piece of the action.
	You're always promoting him.
	No, I get no piece of the action.
	I should give you a couple of points.
	I don't want points from Dexter.
	I think Christina and her girlfriend have chosen him as the father for their child or something, so I've got to be nice to him.
	I know.
	Don't get me started on these kids.
	I'm okay with it, though.
	Smart kid.
	He's good.
	He's pretty.
	Cute boy.
	So, what is happening now is the FDA, and I've been following this on CNBC, they seem to be all over it, are making noise about the liquids, the e-liquids.
	And, of course, it's horrible because we're, you know, it's a gateway to cigarettes.
	And notice how they never call it vaping.
	You ask any kid, what are you smoking?
	Will they say, an e-cigarette?
	No!
	They'll say a vape or Juul, which is kind of the USB chargeable thing the kids are using these days.
	I no longer smoke tobacco products.
	Not combustible, because I've learned that term.
	I vape.
	And it actually helped me get off of cigarettes.
	And you can get these e-liquids in a variety of tastes and aromas and with or without nicotine.
	Now, nicotine itself is not a verboten substance.
	It's not highly regulated, is it, John?
	I'm not aware of this.
	No, you can go buy some nicotine pills at Walgreens.
	Yeah, over-the-counter.
	Yeah.
	So nicotine is...
	Go buy a patch.
	Or you go buy five patches and put them all on at once.
	And lick one at the same time.
	Press it against the roof of your mouth with your tongue.
	Exactly.
	But they're making this out to be like these e-liquid guys, and really it's kind of a bathtub cottage industry, people who are doing this and there's no real major brands.
	And what you're about to hear is...
	Right.
	What you're about to hear is...
	It's the FDA commissioner.
	What's his name?
	Scott Godley.
	And he is pretty much shilling for Big Tobacco because the Big Tobacco companies see this coming down Broadway.
	They want to be the sole guys in this business.
	And I think it was two years ago I said, you watch, they're going to come in and you're going to have to file...
	Some kind of food report or whatever for every single flavor you create, everything you do, everything you change.
	And I'm not quite sure if they have the authority to do this at all.
	But here's the report on CNBC. Well, we have access to early data right now that we're going to make public very soon that shows us that the proportion of high school teenagers using e-cigarettes has reached nothing short of an epidemic level, in my view.
	And it requires us to step in and take dramatic action to try to curtail.
	Yeah, we have data coming very soon.
	Where's the data coming?
	Yeah, FDA is real, real big on data that's all fair and makes sense.
	You know, we've long said that we see certain benefits potentially from the e-cigarette products for adult smokers who want to migrate off combustible products onto these products, which presumably don't have all the risks associated with them.
	Presumably don't have all the risks.
	That's got a lot of weasel words.
	The guy is a weasel.
	He's a total douche.
	And he's all...
	This is for big tobacco, and it's really disturbing how CNBC laps it up.
	And this woman is about to speak.
	She's not a smoker.
	She has no crap about this.
	But it cannot come at the expense of hooking a whole generation of kids onto nicotine.
	Hooking a whole generation of kids onto nicotine.
	Really, no.
	And eventually on to tobacco products.
	Oh, and straight, it's a gateway drug!
	So unfortunately, in order to close the on-ramp to kids, we're going to have to narrow that off-ramp for adults.
	And the thing we're looking at right now...
	On-ramp, off-ramp.
	...is removing the flavors, the characterizing flavors from the e-cigarette products.
	Removing the flavors.
	And she chimes in, that makes sense.
	I mean, it never made sense to me, the argument that adults who are trying to quit smoking would suddenly turn to vaping for flavors like mango or donut or pineapple.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	That is exactly what's happening.
	And the kids love these.
	No, she said it's not happening.
	She's full of baloney.
	The kids love these flavors, and they're not necessarily getting them with nicotine.
	You can get all these flavors without nicotine.
	A lot of kids don't want the nicotine.
	It's an oral fixation, whatever it is.
	It's an on-ramp to smoking.
	And of course, they'd love to then switch out a cartridge and put a little weed in there, also all for it.
	But no, no.
	This is a throwback to the candy cigarettes.
	That's what this is.
	Remember that, John?
	Oh, I remember.
	I used to buy a pack of candy cigarettes.
	And they became socially unacceptable.
	Yeah, I remember in the fourth grade, fifth grade, the candy cigarettes were very popular.
	And they had labels that looked like real tobacco cigarettes.
	And people would, you know, have this, you know.
	Yeah, and it was chewing gum or chocolate.
	It was different kinds.
	And they were tasty.
	And of course, it familiarized kids with tobacco products.
	Of course.
	I never smoked.
	Ever.
	That we know of.
	No, I never smoked.
	I never smoked cigarettes and I've never and I remember candy cigarettes and I like them.
	They're very tasty.
	So anyway, so notice what they're doing.
	They're not and the clip has a little more to it.
	They're going after people who make flavors.
	Now, the flavors is really what all this cottage industry is known for.
	There's fantastic brands and very interesting tastes.
	And it's food.
	I mean, it's a food industry if you look at it.
	There are definitely the propofol...
	Whatever, propylene, whatever it's called, the stuff that you need as a base to create the vape, the vapor, yeah, it can affect you.
	I think it can make you poop a lot, maybe.
	I have a brand called Poop-A-Lot.
	This is what's so great about this industry.
	You could have a poop-a-lot brand and people would be like, oh, this is cool.
	I want that.
	And the labels are great.
	And this is what Dexter has become very successful with.
	But they're not going after the devices.
	They're not going after the nicotine providers.
	No, let's go after the kids who are making up all these cool little flavors.
	That seems like it's entirely designed to lure in non-smokers and new customers.
	Well, look, it may be the case that the flavors do help some adults transition off of combustible tobacco that they have to appeal to adults as well.
	But what we're going to say to the companies, those flavors are on the market but for an act of enforcement discretion by the FDA. We're allowing them to stay on the market without filing applications seeking approval to have those flavored products on the market.
	What we're contemplating doing, and we're giving the manufacturers some time to No, it's closer to a million.
	It's closer to a million.
	We need a million dollar lawyers.
	By the way...
	This whole thing is an example of the problem with government, today's government, overregulation.
	This is overregulation that the republic is always bitching about.
	But meanwhile, this goes through with Trump as president.
	And this is the kind of thing that – this is extra-legal enforcement of laws that are only done by bureaucracies.
	I had worked for one of these operations, which is the way the government works nowadays.
	They give authority to the FDA to make their own rules, make their own laws when laws are only supposed to be made by Congress or the states.
	But no, no, they're made by these agencies, and they're usually made on behalf of some organization like Big Tobacco.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And the whole system is corrupt, and this guy should be run out of town.
	He should be roundly criticized by the reporter instead of her.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And notice he says, you know, we're giving the manufacturers, yeah, the manufacturers are all going to come back, and, you know, they're in this question and answer period, and it'll be, yes, we agree, we think we should have this very strict policy to push all the other kids out who have made this industry.
	Yeah, well, I'm glad that at least we show that no agenda shows sticks, stays behind the people that have something to do without we knowing them.
	Yeah, that's what we stand for.
	Dexter.
	Dexter.
	It's all about Dexter.
	I got some points on the back end, John.
	Sounds like it.
	Hey, John, I got some points on the back end of the vape liquid.
	It's our exit, finally.
	It's here.
	Get some points, man.
	I have one.
	I have a couple less, but I have one that I think is probably worth playing.
	All right.
	And this is the one where Trump says, you're not thinking, you're an idiot.
	Calls on some woman to report.
	This is the whole clip.
	And you can tell he's just being Trump.
	He calls on some woman from CNN, I think, and lets her ask a question at a press briefing about the new USNCA. Well, I'd like to say something about this press conference in general.
	Because I actually caught this one, the entire thing.
	I heard it live.
	And it was misreported, as usual, by MSNBC, etc.
	Oh, he didn't want to talk about Kavanaugh.
	I didn't want to talk about Kavanaugh.
	But that's not what happened.
	The first question from the first reporter he called on started on Kavanaugh, and he said, no, no, let's talk about, what was it, the...
	USMCA. Yeah, USMCA, which apparently Jared Kushner pushed that through.
	I'm looking into that story.
	And, you know, that every other reporter would say, well, I have a question about Kelly.
	He said, look, we'll do them later.
	First about this deal.
	And he did them later.
	And he did them later, but it was reported.
	He didn't want to talk about it.
	But yeah, so he was pissed off about everyone asking him the same question over and over again.
	And then this happened.
	She's shocked that I picked her.
	It's like in a state of shock.
	I'm not thinking, Mr.
	President.
	That's okay.
	I know you're not thinking.
	You never do.
	I'm sorry?
	No, go ahead.
	That was like, homo says what?
	That was really bad.
	It was horrible.
	It was horrible.
	He thinks he's a comedian.
	Well, he's the director.
	He's the producer.
	He's the talent.
	He's the distributor.
	He's got the full package.
	Excuse me?
	No, never mind.
	Just go on.
	You want me to play the rules?
	It's almost like these aren't the bots you're looking for.
	You know, that scene in the old Star Wars movie.
	Do you want to play the rest of the clip for some reason?
	Yeah, play the whole thing as you get it.
	Go ahead.
	In a tweet this weekend, Mr.
	President, you said that it's incorrect to say you're limiting the scope of the FBI investigation.
	What does that have to do with trade?
	I don't mind answering the question, but, you know, I'd like to do the trade question.
	It has to do with the other headline in the news, which is the cat on the occasion.
	I know, but how about talking about trade, and then we'll get to that.
	We'll do that a little bit later.
	Anybody have a trade?
	Do you think your trade deal will pass through Congress, sir?
	I think so.
	But, you know, if it doesn't, we have lots of other alternatives.
	But I do think so.
	I think if they're fair, which is a big question, but if it's fair on both sides, the Republicans love it.
	Industry loves it.
	Our country loves it.
	If it's fair, it will pass.
	I think it'll pass easily, really easily, because it's a great deal.
	I mean, NAFTA passed.
	It's one of the worst deals I've ever seen.
	Inconceivable.
	Inconceivable.
	That it was made.
	Fair question.
	Any other questions?
	I'll get back to you in the other question.
	I'd like to go forward with my Kavanaugh question.
	Let's do that later.
	Yeah.
	She just insists and insists.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, well.
	Maybe Sunday will be no Trump day.
	It's not possible.
	Unlikely, says Ted Koppel.
	I mean, what are you going to do?
	These guys, it's all they do.
	We deconstruct news, and half the news we have to deconstruct has got to do with Trump.
	There you go.
	We won't talk about this other stuff.
	There's global warming going on.
	We will return on Sunday with another episode of the No Agenda Show.
	Looking forward to that.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And until then, coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state.
	FEMA Region 6 on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cludio in the common law condo in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I should mention that the last show, the Zephyr, came by three hours late.
	And I'm still waiting for the Trump tweet.
	Or not tweet, but notification.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Keep waiting, my friend.
	Keep waiting.
	Until Sunday, everybody, as always, adios, mofo.
	And said that Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to her face in college while laughing as part of the game.
	I mean, Anjali's just talking to us about single-sex schools.
	I don't know, is your school single-sex or is it co-ed?
	It's co-ed.
	It's co-ed.
	Okay, so...
	It said that Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself.
	Oh, adults get to pick and choose what we're responsible for.
	If this ever happened, and even Kyle Kaiser, who says she believes for it, says...
	It's very real.
	As we tell adults get to pick and choose, that that comment is just so poor.
	She believes forward says that she doesn't even remember ever being at a party.
	That voice is more empowering than anything.
	And so we tell adults get to pick and choose, that the Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself.
	Hold on.
	He's so cute.
	Right.
	I don't know.
	I can't.
	It's just...
	We focused on gender roles.
	In college.
	That they don't remember anything like this ever happened.
	The social culture.
	We should be trying and focusing.
	She saw them.
	We're getting at a party where Kavanaugh is present.
	Pick and try.
	As part of me.
	There's so much that.
	Oh, hold on, hold on.
	Get to pick and pick.
	Get to pick and pick.
	Anything.
	Exposed himself.
	Or a sponsor who says she believes.
	Yes, now she's saying all men are creeps.
	Adultism is very real.
	He's so empowering to be able to have that voice.
	He's so empowering.
	Yeah, he was co-ed.
	It's co-ed.
	It's art.
	And fun for boys should never be exploitation for girls.
	And so with fun, that is your school single sex or is a co-ed?
	Oh, my God.
	Can you see that, Zephyr?
	Fantastic.
	China has total respect.
	Total respect.
	China has total respect.
	Total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain.
	A brain.
	Donald Trump's idiotic brain.
	I wish someone had said that about me.
	I'd be saying that all day.
	He said, the China man over there said I got a big brain.
	Who is telling the truth?
	What was the reality?
	Chris grasped the country.
	The lasagna of lousy.
	You know what you did.
	You like beer?
	That kind of a wind-up to the F word.
	Kind of a ffff.
	Every city in America has a Trump hotel.
	And both parties are in danger of winning.
	Danger of winning.
	But it can be worse.
	You can actually kill somebody's cat and puncture their tires to get them to shut up.
	I had one beer!
	Technology is the big question, whether or not it is making people happy.
	Lies, smears, besmirchment, the character assassination, and frankly, the bludgeoning of...
	...versionary, blame, the other person tactics, and he himself.
	Who was telling the truth?
	Yes.
	What was the reality?
	Because we've got facts and then we've got feelings.
	Nope, there was one beer.
	One beer, alright?
	And boofing is not flatulence.
	You know what you did.
	Having drinks up the butt.
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