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1070: Alexa in a Lexus

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	It's really cool.
	All this stuff.
	It's really cool, man.
	It's really cool.
	I can see all these things on the watch face.
	It's so cool.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, September 20th, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1070.
	This is No Agenda.
	Still stomping around the old country and broadcasting live from the Garden of Amsterdam here in the Dench Music Studios in Loud and in Gitmo Nation Lowlands in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm awaiting the Zephyr, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	That's right.
	It's Thursday.
	It's the Zephyr Show.
	It's Thursday.
	It's no agenda.
	Now twice a week on Thursdays.
	So you're still in the EU. Yes, I am.
	In the Netherlands, to be exact.
	In some town I've never heard of.
	Yeah, you have.
	I've broadcast from this studio before.
	Laren, L-A-R-E-N. It's just south of Amsterdam.
	It's where all the rich soccer players live with their wives.
	Ah.
	So you have a lot in common.
	Oh, harsh.
	So unnecessary.
	So, no, wait, let me get it straight.
	How did you get there?
	Did you jump in the Hadron Collider and poof, showed up in this place?
	Just boom.
	Actually, our trip changed somewhat.
	Oh, no.
	Hold on.
	It's actually not funny.
	One of Tina's sisters is quite ill.
	Tina has flown back to the Chicago area to be with her and with her family.
	So that's a shame.
	Yeah, so that kind of changed a lot of things.
	In fact, if you don't mind, I'd just like to do off the top and F cancer.
	Stop it!
	Go!
	I want to stop it!
	You've got karma.
	I'm told that stuff does work, so I don't want to leave any stone unturned.
	So yeah, so that's, you know, sadly it kind of changed everything.
	And so I'm here and I go back on Saturday.
	So you never went to the Hadron Collider?
	No, I didn't get to the Hadron Collider, no.
	Oh.
	That's good for another time.
	But we did have a nice train trip from Luzerne to Zurich, and then we flew from Zurich to Amsterdam.
	And another interesting train ride.
	The train is kind of convenient.
	Well, it's because the places are close to each other and there's lots of trains.
	Yeah, and it just kind of works.
	There's no drunk people.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I've been on the wrong trains.
	But something that was kind of...
	And it just struck me as odd.
	I'm not quite sure if I'm seeing it the wrong way.
	But, you know, you order your train tickets online, which is pretty simple to do.
	And then they do force you, this would be Tina in this case, to download an app.
	If you can't print it out, you have to download their app.
	And then you have to import your tickets into their app, which is pretty much showing a PDF on their app, which I think just probably could have just shown a PDF. But you have a QR code.
	And so when the conductor comes by to check your ticket, it just seems so...
	I don't know if it seems odd to me that you're showing your QR code on, in this case, the Keeper's smartphone, and the conductor is scanning the QR code with his smartphone.
	Isn't that meant for people who have no relationship together, whereas we already have a relationship because we purchase tickets and we have the app and all that?
	Is it just me or is it actually super modern?
	You confused me with whatever you just said.
	Okay, so instead of scanning, you know, like at the airport where you put your phone under a scanner, I don't do that, but, you know, you can do that.
	Now you have the conductor, he's scanning with his, I don't know, it's just like a weird air gap thing to me.
	I don't know, maybe I'm just seeing it the wrong way.
	It felt strange.
	Do you think that what would you propose as an alternative that would be more efficient and make more sense to you?
	Maybe when you just get right on the train, just like a plane, you scan it, you're done.
	Why is the conductor still there?
	What's the point of him to come by and scan the phone?
	You know, I've always wondered that myself.
	I mean, it's old.
	I remember old school because you still had conductors come by and, you know, click your ticket.
	Yeah, because you come by and they click the tickets and they pop a hole in each one of them.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And it's kind of cool.
	And then they stick it in a little sticker thing at the top of the seat where people get steel.
	It's been a while since it worked that way.
	Yeah, but, you know, they can still do that in some Eastern European train systems.
	Yeah.
	And...
	Yeah, I know.
	They should have just a little kiosk right at the door, and maybe only have like eight doors you can go in, or six, or five, or two, whatever.
	Or every door.
	What difference does it make?
	Well, each one of those things costs money.
	Oh, okay.
	It's probably government-run, and there's probably a union for the conductors, and I'm sure they like their job.
	The guy was very friendly.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	Maybe it's just a way to check.
	Could be.
	I learned a couple other things.
	Oh, I got a lot of feedback on the bikers that we were seeing, kind of these middle-aged guys, a little overweight, with all the garb on.
	You know, clearly they had their bikes flowing in, or they rented them locally, and they're all running around.
	This is a big bone of contention with people in Italy and Switzerland.
	They really don't like them.
	And they have a name for them, mammals.
	Mammals?
	Why do they call them mammals?
	It's an acronym, M-A-M-I-L-S, an acronym for middle-aged men in Lycra.
	Wow.
	Mammals.
	That's a good one.
	Yes.
	Mammals.
	Something else I've noticed, this was very unique to Switzerland, Hotels, stores, anywhere you go, the doors all open inward, which I think is at this point a building code violation in the United States.
	Very few states allow it.
	If you have that in California, they'll give you a big ticket and make you fix it pretty quickly.
	They'll shut you down.
	Of course, for Americans walking around, you want to walk in somewhere, you pull the door, you almost rip your arm out of the socket.
	It's push.
	But do Europeans, have they never had people die inside a venue where the crowd tried to get out and the door was inward and not pushed outward?
	I guess.
	I mean, it makes no sense.
	I don't know why you'd have...
	Maybe the...
	I mean...
	What's the rationale for having it open inward, except for maybe if you open it outward, somebody walks into it.
	I mean, that's the only...
	Yeah, but it's for safety reasons is the reason you do it.
	I don't understand it.
	I've noticed this myself, by the way.
	I only kind of noticed it in Switzerland.
	I don't know if it's in other European countries.
	I don't think I've noticed it that much in the Netherlands.
	There's a lot of revolving doors.
	I noticed it in London when I was in London last year.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Okay, so we get to the Netherlands.
	The only thing the Netherlands can talk about right now in all the newspapers everywhere is Glennis Grace, who didn't win the America's Got Talent.
	I know you don't watch, so I'll fill you in.
	There's a Dutch singer.
	Glennis Grace is her name.
	I know her quite well.
	In fact, I think she sang at one of our parties, you know, a hundred years ago.
	She's a very good singer, and I think maybe she won a...
	She's quite well known.
	She has a career in Holland.
	She's from the Netherlands.
	She's from Holland.
	What's it got to do with America's Got Talent?
	I know, but that's why it's so interesting.
	So she's over there.
	I guess she has temporary residence and she got on the show and she got all the way to the finals and everyone here was like, oh, it's the Dutch girl making it to America's Got Talent.
	As far as I know, she doesn't live there.
	She might.
	I thought she always lived here.
	And she didn't get through, but oh man, this is the national pride that she got all the way to the finals.
	Yeah, that's fascinating.
	I'm just saying, that's what everyone's talking about.
	Well, not much better than what we're talking about.
	I did watch the Emmys.
	You missed that.
	I have two more things to mention in my report, and then I desperately want to hear about the Emmys.
	No, I want this European report to continue throughout the show, but you can load up if you want.
	I'll just give you the one on Amsterdam.
	I have not been to Amsterdam for, I mean really in the city, and we went last night for some dinner for, I don't know, maybe a little under a year.
	I've got to tell you, there are too many bicycles in Amsterdam.
	I'm not talking about people riding bikes.
	That's bad as is.
	There are so many bikes.
	They are parked everywhere.
	You can't walk on sidewalks.
	You can't cross a little island where if you're crossing a two-lane road or something.
	Bikes everywhere.
	They've just been pumping bikes into the Dutch economy and they haven't gotten rid of any.
	It's insane.
	I've never seen it like this.
	Everyone's talking about it.
	And there's also dockless and dock...
	It's crazy.
	They've over-inflated bicycles in Amsterdam.
	That's ridiculous.
	I mean, this is supposed to be the country that has adapted to the bicycle culture.
	Now what you're telling me is that it's not working.
	Here's what happened.
	I remember when there was this big push.
	I'm sure we talked about it on the show.
	We want to make Amsterdam, we want to make the city much more for pedestrians and bikes, and we want to kind of push the cars out.
	So they flooded all the bicycle infrastructure.
	More bikes, bikes, bikes.
	Didn't really do much to stop the flow of cars because you still need deliveries.
	Trucks need to get through.
	Business has to be done.
	So now no one can move.
	You've got bikes to the left of you, bikes to the right of you, bikes on the sidewalk, bikes on the bridge, bikes!
	And then the tourists, who somehow think that I can bike like the Dutch, it's just kamikaze pilots.
	It's really, it's ruined.
	The city is ruined.
	And I blame it on the policy of, you know, more bikes.
	It was too much.
	It's gone crazy.
	Take some pictures.
	I have some.
	I have some.
	Definitely.
	It's just insane.
	I want to see pictures.
	Yeah, I'll send them to you.
	We'll have them for the next newsletter.
	I'll be back for the next Thursday show on Sunday.
	The next Thursday.
	I got you, didn't I? Yeah, I got you.
	So you'll be back on Sunday?
	Yes, I will.
	So will you find back tonight, tomorrow?
	No, Saturday.
	Saturday, because tomorrow I'm going to go see Christina, who I haven't seen yet, because everything kind of got pushed back at some other...
	I thought she's in Rotterdam.
	She's in Rotterdam.
	I'll have taxi Eric drive me or something.
	Oh, I thought you were going to take a bike.
	I'm still here trying to exit this damn podcast.
	I'm trying to find an exit strategy.
	Just get on a bicycle.
	That's your exit strategy.
	Sure, sure.
	Are they just laying around you and anyone can pick one up?
	No.
	Well, I mean, bikes get stolen all the time, but no, people lock them.
	I mean, you can't even lock them to anything.
	To lock it to a bridge or a light post or a gate...
	Up it goes!
	No, I mean, it's a luxury because all those spots are just filled with bikes.
	I've never seen it this way.
	Ever.
	Ever.
	And I've been in Amsterdam since I was, you know, seven.
	Yes, I'll take pictures.
	Oh, man.
	Take pictures.
	Yes.
	There goes a nine-car Zephyr.
	Yeah.
	Thank goodness.
	Yes, seven minutes late.
	Seven minutes late.
	Yeah.
	You should complain.
	Why?
	I'm not on it.
	So I watched the Emmys.
	Yes, I was fortunate enough to see the lame opening song and perhaps more insulting, lamer monologue.
	Well, the lame opening song, obviously the guy producing it, the Saturday Night Live guy.
	Lorne Michaels, right?
	Lorne Michaels.
	Yeah.
	He put the hammer down and said, no political, no Trump stuff.
	We don't want to see any political or Trump stuff because that's what we do on Saturday Night Live.
	I don't want to see you guys stealing our material.
	Right.
	So instead, just rag on white people, men in particular.
	So there was a few, a little bit of that.
	It wasn't that bad.
	I thought the thing was pretty mild politically, but I got annoyed by a couple of things.
	Not politically, John.
	I just thought it was insulting.
	It was, oh, you know, too many white people, oh, white people, oh, white people.
	Oh, yeah, they were doing a lot of material about it.
	And the show is...
	I would say overrepresented by the black community.
	Yeah, but not in the winner's circle.
	Too many black presenters, including guys.
	It was all starting at live people.
	It was ridiculous.
	But not in the winner's circle there weren't too many black people.
	What I could see.
	Seems like they lost.
	Well, whatever.
	The point is that a couple of things that galled me.
	They had, I think, four writers' awards.
	And except for the last one, writing for a drama.
	They never mentioned the names of the writers.
	Huh.
	Even though it's a writing award?
	Yes.
	They mentioned, they showed the name of, they just played a clip, showed the name of the show, no writers.
	They didn't mention the writers.
	They never said directed by, I mean, when they said directors, they mentioned the guy's name at the front.
	They said so and so and so and so, you know, Zach Zachary, you know, directed such and such.
	They put these guys' names out there.
	No, for the writers, they never said anybody's name except the winner.
	They had to mention him because they had to come up to the front.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's kind of rude.
	It was very rude.
	It was for the first three of the Writers Awards.
	They never mentioned the writers.
	The last one they did, they named the writer at the beginning.
	I found that to be outrageous.
	And I'm surprised the writers put up with this crap.
	Where's the Writers Guild?
	And then the other thing that was weird...
	Wait, wait.
	Stop.
	How were the ratings?
	How were the ratings?
	I didn't check the ratings.
	Nice report.
	It was a terrible show.
	I'll check the ratings.
	Keep going.
	The entertainment was lame.
	The song at the beginning, like you said, was stupid.
	And it was all, you know, race, race, race.
	You're right about that.
	Oh, all time.
	Here we go.
	The Emmy Awards drew a record low audience of just 10.2 million people, down 11% over the past two years.
	Woo-hoo!
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Because it was hard to watch.
	Good work.
	It was not entertaining.
	Anyway, and then they get to the dead people's section.
	Ah, yes, yes.
	We love the dead segment.
	They do the dead segment and they throw in John McCain.
	Into the Emmys?
	Oh, that's right.
	Yes, I read people were really mad because they had John McCain in, but then they didn't mention Mac, some rapper I'd never heard of.
	How about Tom Wolfe?
	How about Tom Wolfe, the writer?
	He did a TV series in the 70s.
	He died.
	He was a famous novelist.
	He did the electric Kool-Aid acid test, Bonfire of the Vanities.
	He was a famous writer on television all the time.
	No, he gets snubbed.
	Another writer snub, I might add.
	Huh.
	Lorne Michaels, I think, just doesn't like writers.
	Yeah.
	They're probably getting in the way.
	You know, they're not that, you know, they're a pain in the ass.
	I have no idea what it is, but there was obviously this, and I didn't see a lot of dead writers besides Tom Wolfe.
	I'm sure there's a lot of dead, except for Neil Simon.
	Yeah, duh, you can't leave him out.
	But, you know, this is really, I thought, a snub to anyone who wrote for a living in that business down there.
	Have you heard anyone else complain about this?
	Is anyone on Facebook talking about it?
	I don't have Facebook, so I have no idea.
	All I know is that I'm talking about it.
	I'm just asking.
	And so, yeah, so Tom Wolfe is left out, but John McCain, they threw him in.
	What does he have to do with anything, and are they going to put every dead politician?
	Politicians die a lot.
	Yeah, in really unfortunate ways sometimes, too.
	And so what's the point of this?
	And so I thought that was one of the messages.
	That was a political statement.
	That was Lorne's political statement.
	And then he also, when he had the nominations for Best Comedy Actor, they had apparently...
	Baldwin got nominated for doing his Trump.
	Oh, of course.
	So they had a big giant picture of him doing Trump with his lips out.
	And so that was, I think, something of a political statement.
	But the rest of it, they kept it on the QT. But that John McCain thing was like...
	What was that all about?
	Well, does he have an IMDB page?
	Let's take a look.
	I'm going to take a look and see John McCain IMDB. Let me see.
	Well, I'm sure Tom Wolfe does too, but he didn't get mentioned.
	Tom Wolfe's more famous in Hollywood circles.
	Oh, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Of course, he's been a guest on Saturday Night Live multiple times.
	Lorne produced the show.
	Hello!
	That's how he justifies it.
	He has two writing credits.
	For democracy and faith of my fathers.
	This is the...
	I'm just saying...
	There's got to be a million people that rank to that level.
	It should have been on the death list.
	It's ridiculous.
	John, when you go, I'm getting you on in the dead segment.
	Yeah, do it.
	Budcasters and the bottom.
	Bud.
	You would come back and haunt me.
	Yeah.
	Ooh.
	Nice.
	Alright.
	So that was it?
	I didn't have much to report.
	I thought the set was very boring.
	Where was it?
	Was it LA? Yeah, it was in LA at the Microsoft Theater, which I think is the old...
	I don't think...
	It's not the Dolby, because that's still there.
	It's the old...
	The Kodak Theater, I think.
	I think.
	I don't know.
	But it's one of the older theaters.
	Microsoft bought the rights, and so has the Microsoft Theater.
	Microsoft never got mentioned throughout the show.
	I mean, it wasn't even...
	Right, it's just an old naming right they have.
	Naming rights.
	It was just lame.
	It was a really terrible...
	They should not hire that guy to do the thing, you know.
	And then another political statement, I thought, was giving...
	There's no reason for the special, the Emmy for the best special of last year went to the Oscars.
	Oh man, how incestuous is that?
	Well, besides being incestuous, that was a nod to De Niro.
	Oh, for his F. Trump comment.
	His F. Trump.
	Oh, so that made...
	What, did they show that as the best segment of the show?
	No, they didn't show that.
	No, they weren't going to do that.
	This was all subtle, subtle nods.
	Well, I mean, that's your interpretation.
	I'm just adding two and two.
	Why would they get the award?
	This show sucked.
	It had low ratings, too.
	And also, they had, you know, again, they had the McCain thing and then a picture of what's-his-name doing Trump.
	I mean, come on.
	And then I saw the guy proposed on stage.
	Oh, actually, that was kind of sweet.
	Oh.
	Okay, I didn't see it.
	The guy says, the guy was kind of lame, but it was kind of sweet.
	Because it was, at least it was something different.
	The guy says, I, you know, my girlfriend's sitting here in the audience, and I have to tell you this, I hate calling you my girlfriend, I'd rather call you my wife.
	Aww.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and then the guy kind of botched it though, because I did, I had a, actually I could have clipped that.
	Yeah.
	She starts, she gets all excited in the audience, I mean, it's pretty funny.
	Oh yeah, uh-huh.
	So she comes running up the stage, and then as she's running up, he says at least three times, I haven't asked you yet.
	I haven't asked you yet.
	I haven't asked you yet.
	What a douche.
	What a dummy.
	Just go.
	Once she gets up there, he does go on his knee, give her a ring, and asks her.
	But what's he yelling at her for when she's coming up on the stage?
	You can see where that relationship's going.
	I can guarantee you what's next.
	Divorce.
	No.
	Well, there's that.
	No, we're going to see this another time in the near future on an award show, but it will be a gay proposal.
	That could be.
	There was one later in the show, there was a call back to this moment, way late in the show, where this guy, who's also got a girlfriend in the audience, says, he says, and if I forget, she's some actress, he says, She said she'd punch me in the face if I asked her to marry her here.
	And I'm thinking, yes, do that on my show, please.
	Very good.
	Anyway.
	Yeah.
	Well, there is one piece of news that was played up pretty big here, particularly in the Netherlands, since it is news that concerns quite a number of Dutch citizens, many of whom were killed in MH17, the downing of the MH17 airliner over Ukraine.
	As the Russians did a big live news conference, it was carried live all over the country, people were tweeting about it, and there was live stream on RT, of course, who interpreted the news for us, and in a nutshell, they have proof that this was a...
	Buk rocket that was in possession of the Ukrainian army and could have only been deployed by the Ukrainians for a number of reasons.
	And I do have a clip.
	Remember, this, of course, is RT, so you'd expect them to be all over this news in a positive fashion.
	And that was...
	I did a John right there, didn't I? Hey, good work.
	Fabulous.
	I like the way we're shortening the show.
	Yeah.
	It's literally a one-second clip.
	Well, I have a second one.
	Okay, I can summarize.
	They have the original...
	I'm so pissed about that.
	That's not me.
	They have the original...
	Egg, you're it.
	Yes.
	The original passport.
	Each weapon has, or each shell or rocket has a passport.
	It shows where it was made.
	It was not made in 84.
	It was...
	Earlier, presumed, but in 86.
	And this could have only been in Ukraine for all of these reasons.
	And all the journalists were there.
	They could examine the evidence.
	It wasn't like a PDF of an Obama birth certificate, but it was the real booklet for whatever that's worth.
	But they did have this other interesting piece of evidence, which was a phone call.
	You remember they had...
	As proof that the Russians did it, they had some, like, drunk Russian, you know, lieutenant yapping her way, like, I'm going to shoot the, oh, we shot down a plane.
	Well, now the Russians have their version of a Ukrainian colonel who, and they don't even translate this bit, I will for you.
	Just listen to this part of the report.
	The passport and all other relevant documents were actually brought to the room.
	In fact, they used to be top secret and the Russian defense ministry have unclassified them for the sake of the probe, for the sake of the investigation.
	They also passed on all the data on the rocket to the official investigation, and they are saying they are open to everybody, to any inquiries, any further questions that the official investigation may have.
	In fact, even us journalists had a chance to have a look with our own eyes at these papers.
	Also, the second part of the presentation...
	This is interesting, because I'm telling you, I probably cut out the wrong part on this one, too.
	Although this is a good part of the report, but this is not what I meant intended to clip for you.
	The Russian defense ministry included some footage analyzed before by the joint investigative team.
	And the Russian defense ministry says basically they've shown their examples of how they believe that footage was tampered with.
	And the third part was probably was also a very interesting one.
	And they purported to they purported to play to us an audio recording, which the Russian defense ministry says is a conversation between a Ukrainian colonel with another officer.
	And a lot of bombs dropped in that recording.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Right, so this is only translated with subtitles, but this colonel says, holy crap, we don't want to blow up another plane like we did.
	I don't know if that's the actual translation.
	Someone in the audience will check it for us, but that seemed to be a very clear recording, almost as good as they had of Victoria Nuland.
	The Russians know how to do it.
	The Russians have been preoccupied with...
	There's some cultural reason for this, and I can't remember quite...
	What it relates to, but the Russians are really into high-quality recordings.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was kind of an element of that in The Death of Stalin.
	They have...
	I saw it, but tell me what part.
	What part?
	The beginning where they're recording the...
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You're right.
	They have, you know, during the Soviet era, there were microphones everywhere.
	Everyone knew there was microphones buried here and there.
	And they just really liked that more than anything.
	They liked to listen in.
	Curry, podcast perfectionist or Russian spy?
	One of the two.
	Read the book.
	Anyway, so it's good.
	Well...
	You know, I kind of believe the Russians cited this because of the length of time it took to rig the report.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	And remember, the thing went down.
	It should have been within a month or two.
	They should have had something to tell us.
	They told us nothing for over a year.
	Well, it seemed to me it must have been phoning up evidence.
	It's been longer.
	It's been much longer than that.
	And remember that a lot of the main evidence against the Russians comes from Bellingcat.
	Do you remember Bellingcat?
	Yeah, with the upside-down C question mark.
	Bellingcat is the blogger who has a little group.
	He's kind of like the Snopes of MH17. Yeah.
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	Exactly.
	So, yeah, I don't know.
	The whole thing is sad.
	In the Netherlands, people have just been shut down by the...
	The debate has just been quashed by the politicians and the mainstream media.
	Shut up.
	You don't need to know.
	Every time they come up with a report that's from the JIT, the Joint Investigative Team.
	Well, we think this is it.
	We're pretty sure.
	We'll know in the next update.
	Then it's nine months.
	Yeah, well, look.
	We have 97% of scientists are on board.
	We really believe that's how it's going.
	So...
	Yeah.
	It's sad.
	The whole thing is sad.
	What else did I have?
	Oh, I got a lot of BBC World Service stuff, actually.
	BBC World Service.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, these are clipped properly.
	We had a couple of things happen at once.
	We had the...
	What is this?
	Hold on, let me check.
	For how much?
	Oh, that's good.
	It looks like some of my clips got screwed, John.
	I don't know what's happening here.
	This is not good.
	Well, luckily I have two of the three.
	It's the tariffs.
	Trump increased the tariffs on the Chinese.
	Yeah?
	It was pretty big news over here.
	Did anyone talk about it in the U.S.? Well, they tried to talk about it a little bit, but it seems that the Kavanaugh stuff was getting more traction.
	Now, apparently, if you listen, Paul Krugman wrote an editorial in the New York Times, you know, the famous Paul Krugman calling Kavanaugh obviously smarmy.
	They're really going after this Kavanaugh guy.
	You know, I might have to give you the kudos on this because I was...
	Well, actually, I have some clips of Trump that I think really prove the theory.
	Well, let's back it back off.
	I want to make sure that people know what I'm talking about.
	You had the theory that this guy was a straw man.
	He was going to be thrown to the wolves.
	Yes.
	And he was going to be chewed up, gobbled up, and spattered all over the place.
	And that would lead into giving leverage to the Republicans to...
	Moan and groan about this because he's probably not guilty of anything, and he's probably a pretty good pick, except for some elements that you saw that you didn't like, which I agree with.
	Well, and remember, the report we had is that Trump's sister, who's a judge, had said, no, this is the person you want, and I forget, it was the other person, not the Kavanaugh, but the second pick, and now I can't remember for a second.
	Yeah, there's two other ones, including a woman.
	I think he's going to throw the woman in there next.
	Might.
	But the way we interpreted it at the time was Kavanaugh is not meant to become the next Supreme Court justice.
	He's not meant to be confirmed.
	Yes, and it also kind of balances the budget.
	Okay, we screwed you on Gorsuch.
	Now you screwed us on Kavanaugh.
	We're even.
	Right.
	Yes, and I think this...
	I have three clips here of Trump, one of those helicopters...
	You know, I'm getting on the helicopter to go to North Carolina, stand-up, you know, press gaggles.
	And I think the way he speaks and the answers he's giving and what he...
	He's giving Kavanaugh all kinds of...
	Well, have a listen here.
	Well, I would let the senators take their course.
	Let the senators do it.
	They're doing a very good job.
	They've given tremendous amounts of time.
	They've already postponed a major hearing.
	And really, they're hurting somebody's life very badly.
	There's a lot of this hurting his life, his family, a lot of this like, hey man, if you want to bow out of this, this is a good time to do it.
	And it's very unfair, I think, to, as you know, Justice Kavanaugh has been treated...
	He's painting the Democrats as a bunch of a-holes.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, no.
	It gets better.
	It gets better.
	It's very, very tough.
	And his family, I think it's a very unfair thing, what's going on.
	So, we'll see.
	But I do think this...
	They've given it a lot of time.
	They will continue to give it a lot of time.
	And really, it's up to the Senate.
	And I really rely on them.
	I think they're going to do a good job.
	So a lot of this time, don't worry, no rush, take a lot of time.
	And then there's still more, you know, it's really, it's hard for his family.
	It's really tough.
	I mean, just think of, and it's true.
	I mean, going, going, these guys being pulled through the ringer here.
	I think he's an extraordinary man.
	I think he's a man of great intellect, as I've been telling you.
	And he has an unglemished record.
	This is a very tough thing for him and his family.
	And we want to get it over with.
	At the same time, we want to give tremendous amounts of time.
	He's trying to communicate something here.
	If she shows up, that would be wonderful.
	If she doesn't show up...
	That would be unfortunate.
	That would be not so...
	Well, let's really go in and let's just go for the kill and blame the Democrats for this horrible situation we're in.
	Look, if she shows up and makes a credible showing, that'll be very interesting and we'll have to make a decision.
	But I can only say this, he is such an outstanding man.
	It's very hard for me to imagine that anything happened to him.
	Well, I'd have to see what she has to say.
	I've given her a lot of time.
	The Senate has given her a lot of time.
	A lot of time being given.
	We continue to give her a lot of time.
	We've held up the whole hearing.
	What I don't like is that Senator Feinstein had this letter for a period of like three months from...
	July.
	Maybe even before that, but from July.
	Why didn't Senator Feinstein bring this up at her meeting with Judge Kavanaugh?
	Why didn't the Democrats, they knew about the letter because she was showing it to Democrats, why did they wait until everything was finished and then bring it up?
	That doesn't look good.
	No, that doesn't look good.
	That's a good question.
	Yeah, I'm now totally on board with the...
	With the thesis that this poor bastard is just getting thrown to the wolves.
	Yeah, but it's who actually leaked her identity or this letter?
	Who leaked that?
	Feinstein, as he says, Feinstein didn't leak it.
	I'm sure it was someone on Trump's side who leaked it.
	Get it out there.
	Here's what Feinstein said.
	I have no say.
	I'm the lead Democrat, so this is all up to the Republican side.
	I can't say.
	Everything's true, so I don't know.
	Let's hear another guy.
	The guy second to Feinstein is Blumenthal.
	This is Blumenthal on the PBS Showboating.
	And this is the classic move to stall.
	And he knows that this is bullcrap, but he's doing it anyway, which is really shameful.
	But this is Richard Blumenthal.
	He has played a unique role in choosing and vetting judicial nominees.
	He was the one who recommended...
	Rob Porter, to his position as staff secretary, despite many people knowing about his domestic violence, when he knew about these allegations and what he did to investigate them.
	Second, we want to know when the letter signed by 65 of Judge Kavanaugh's former schoolmates It appeared, as you'll recall, the day after the letter surfaced publicly.
	There must have been some preparation for it.
	That would be common sense.
	And the answers to those questions from Don McGahn will be extremely revealing.
	Let me just say finally that I hope we've learned something from the Anita Hill proceeding of 27 years ago.
	That a full investigation is necessary, that corroborating witnesses are essential, but most important, that survivors deserve basic respect, which right now...
	The Republican leadership is failing to give.
	Oh, man.
	This whole thing...
	Survivor.
	This thing is so sick because it's really...
	This is the loop.
	The loop of social media and things popping up and people finding that Kavanaugh's mom was a judge in some foreclosure.
	And it just feeds back into the media machine.
	And people are becoming violently ill.
	Yeah.
	No, I'm not kidding.
	I'm not kidding.
	Listen to, this is Senator Maisie Hirono.
	I don't know where she's from.
	The worst.
	The woman is violently ill.
	Of course it helps that there are women on that committee, but you know what?
	I expect the men in this country and the men in this committee, and many of them, believe me, because we all signed on to this letter to demand an FBI investigation, but really, guess who's perpetuating all of these kinds of actions?
	It's the men in this country, and I just want to say to the men in this country, just shut up and step up.
	This is an illness when a senator speaks this way.
	And I know it's an illness because if you saw this clip, this is where it ends.
	But right after this, I'll actually roll it back just a tad here.
	You'll hear she catches herself like, what the hell did I just say?
	And I just want to say to the men in this country, just shut up and step up.
	Do the right thing for a change.
	Okay, you can see I'm a little upset by this, you know, the unfairness of it.
	But you have a second question?
	She's completely off her rocker.
	You can say, I'm a little upset by this, but I... She realizes it, but she's ill.
	This is not normal.
	It's not normal behavior.
	Did you hear Barbara Boxer?
	Our friend, Barbara Boxer, the masher?
	The hitchhiking masher?
	Can I say that?
	Can I get sued if I say that?
	I don't know if she was a masher, but maybe.
	Well, she was always trying to...
	Okay.
	She was always hitting on guys.
	The hitchhiking hooker.
	Hook up her.
	Sorry.
	Hook up her.
	Hook her.
	Trying to hook up her.
	Ah, forget it.
	Here she is.
	This woman is to be believed.
	She's talking about Anna Eshoo.
	Hold on, stop me a second.
	Yes.
	What has Boxer got to do with anything?
	Kamala Harris took her job.
	She's on MSNBC providing commentary.
	She's talking about Dr.
	Ford and Anna Eshoo.
	You looked into Anna Eshoo.
	Oh, Anna Eshoo's the worst.
	Who is she?
	Who's Anna Eshoo?
	She's one of our representatives in the state of California.
	All right.
	So Anna Eshoo has vouched for Dr.
	Ford.
	And Barbara Boxer says this.
	This woman is to be believed.
	Anna Eshoo is one of the most incredible people I know in this world.
	She has a heart of gold and she's sharp.
	She knows, after sitting with that woman, you can believe Anna Eshoo and you can believe Dr.
	Ford.
	This was attempted rape.
	Yeah.
	And this is a woman who exhibits, Dr.
	Ford, courage, but the classic signs of post-traumatic stress.
	I mean, wow.
	I don't think this is healthy debate anymore.
	It's...
	No, but it falls right into the pattern that you predicted.
	I'm surprised that you feel bad about it.
	Well, I'm just looking at it from a distance.
	I'd be gloating a lot more than you are.
	I've been in the EU now and I look across the water and I go, oh man, really?
	We do cool shit too, people.
	Back off!
	The thing is, here's the clip that I'm surprised that mainstream isn't playing over and over and over again.
	This is Kavanaugh in his own words.
	Order the FBI to examine the accusation that Kavanaugh categorically denies.
	The judge, here in 2015, reflecting on a saying among his high school classmates.
	What happens at Georgetown Prep stays at Georgetown Prep.
	That's been a good thing for all of us, I think.
	I mean, come on!
	That's gold!
	That is gold.
	You're right.
	They should be playing that.
	Why?
	I mean, it's very odd.
	Very odd to me.
	And you see, you know, on Fox News, it's all like, yeah, she should speak.
	Let's get all this.
	It's like they've all been instructed.
	This guy, he cannot become scope.
	We want to draw it out.
	It's got to take.
	And this is the Republicans, the Fox News station.
	The Democrats are like, you know, he can't be, and they're like, yeah, take your time, do as much as you want.
	This is bizarre, man.
	There's something amiss here.
	This is not normal behavior.
	No, there's nothing amiss.
	It's going exactly as planned.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Yeah, well, I'm glad I called it.
	Yeah, I am too.
	The best part of this is the memes.
	I'm surprised you called it and then you're like, after you've already, instead of spiking the ball, you're saying, I don't know, maybe we should bring it back and run to play again.
	No, no, no, I'm not saying that.
	You're like the reluctant touchdown scorer.
	I don't know, ref, do you think I actually got in here?
	I'll tell you why.
	I'll tell you why.
	This is too on point.
	I'm doubting myself.
	It's too on point.
	It's so exactly what we predicted.
	I'm doubting myself now.
	How can this be happening?
	Where's the hitch?
	I'm not seeing it.
	Ten years of experience.
	Well, what you might be doing, you might be looking for the meta.
	There may be something you might be writing.
	And what you're worried about is that this is going so smoothly that it can't be just this.
	Something else is, yes, exactly.
	Something else is a part of this.
	That's a very common no-agenda phenomenon.
	Okay, well, thank you for helping me through that.
	And it's possible.
	There's something more to it.
	Yeah.
	All I know, there's one thing, the last thing I get is, yes, the FBI can look into a clip, which is a long clip from CBSN. What are you hearing from your sources?
	Because in the case that this is a he said, she said, you know, people are immediately jumping to the, well, maybe she's asking for an investigation because she wants to delay things.
	Maybe she's asking for an investigation.
	So it's not just a he said, she said.
	Because even Mark, who's in the room?
	Mark Judge.
	Mark Judge, who's in the room, while he said it didn't happen, he's not willing to testify.
	Yes, Stephanie, my sources are frankly presenting another view than the one you just heard from Bill Gavin, which is that the FBI absolutely could investigate this, not as a criminal matter, but as part of their role, background-checking federal nominees.
	But they could only do that if the White House asked them to look into this allegation.
	And if the White House did ask them to do that, they would be perfectly capable of shedding some light on this.
	In fact, you know, they have people who do nothing but interview sex crime victims.
	They have trained interrogators.
	And as you said, there are witnesses, in this case Mark Judge, and there's another woman who's on Twitter saying she was a classmate Of Dr.
	Ford, and that this incident was discussed.
	Now, I asked The Hill, and they said they don't know whether that's true or not.
	That's the kind of thing that the FBI could investigate.
	They could find people who knew these folks, who were classmates.
	They could try to triangulate.
	Was this, did this party occur?
	You know, did people talk about this?
	Yeah, obviously it was many, many years ago, but the FBI is fully capable of at least shedding some light on this.
	I'm going to triangulate that, Bora.
	I'm going to triangulation.
	Well, the White House has to...
	I mean, the FBI supposedly is what I remember.
	Well, Trump said that they investigated him as part of their background show.
	Six times.
	They investigated this guy six times thoroughly.
	Is that true?
	And then they never came up with anything.
	So this is kind of an insult to the FBI. How do we know it's true?
	Well, Trump said...
	No, it's denied that they haven't investigated him over and over because when he became a federal judge, they had to investigate him and then they had to investigate him again.
	They investigated this guy a lot.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And...
	It's like an insult to the FBI. Well, you investigate him and you miss this?
	You guys stink.
	You suck.
	I mean, the FBI can't be happy about all these complaints.
	Hey, it's a twofer.
	Trump is not only getting exactly what he wants, but he's also screwing the FBI a little extra.
	Yeah, without even having to do anything.
	Yeah, twofer.
	I like the memes, though.
	I was just going to say something else.
	That all these letter writers...
	I think there's some danger, regardless of what Tina's opinion is on Kavanaugh and the accusations, when Julia Louis-Dreyfus also was tweeting, I support her!
	I signed on from my school!
	I'm one of the 200 signing in support of her!
	Antina said, I don't want to read the letter because I'll have trouble watching the show, regardless of the opinion, just the fact that she's doing it.
	Just be on television.
	Just do your show.
	It's a great show.
	Don't ruin it.
	I think there's collateral damage that people aren't thinking about.
	Well, the other thing is, Julia Louis-Dreyfus is one of the richest women in the world.
	She's the inheritor of her dad, and you can look him up on the Wikipedia, who in 2006 was worth $4 billion, and that was 12 years ago.
	He only died recently.
	So she is like an aristocrat, not only just an elite, but an aristocrat who decided to go into acting as a lark.
	She's a comedian.
	She was the funny Dreyfus in the family.
	Oh, let her do her bit.
	And so they tolerated her.
	But it's like, you know, it's a ridiculous situation with this woman.
	She's the one who should get out of the way.
	She has her nerve.
	So she's the punchline to the aristocrats?
	Okay.
	I sat on that one for a moment.
	Well, but I think just the collateral damage that show business people are now going to witness, if you keep using...
	John Legend's going to see this too.
	That's how the machine works.
	You use the machine for promotion over and over again, or whatever your message is, at a certain point, the karmic wheel reverses and the shit spits back at you.
	I've witnessed this myself.
	It grinds you up.
	It does, time and time again.
	It doesn't always come back instantly.
	It can be years later.
	But you will get shit spewed over you from the machine.
	And it happens to everyone who uses it.
	Thank goodness we just have a little podcast.
	We're podcasters.
	We're podcasters.
	So I like the memes, though.
	Even though it's a sad topic in general, the ridiculousness of the accusation, like, I don't really want to say who I am, I don't remember exactly where it was, don't exactly know who else was there, I kind of remembered what happened.
	So now people, and when I was very young, people are doing memes all over the place, such as this one.
	This is hard.
	So Maxine Waters, about 25 years ago, when I was two, somebody had took me to a Maxine Waters rally or to her...
	I don't know what...
	I forgot where we were at.
	I don't remember why I was even near Maxine Waters at that age, but...
	She had kissed me on the cheek.
	And she...
	and doing all that.
	And, you know, I was only two.
	I didn't give her permission to kiss me on the cheek.
	And, you know, she was grabbing on my cheeks and...
	and all that.
	And, you know...
	She shouldn't be in the office, right?
	This is like an emotional YouTube face.
	This is great.
	Wait for the punchline.
	Here it comes.
	They need to launch a federal investigation.
	Because I didn't give her permission to put her lips on me.
	And her breath was funky.
	Her breath was funky.
	Such a visual joke.
	Yeah, I think that's kind of funny.
	Yeah, and that's pretty much what's going on.
	But, you know, this re-sparks the hashtag MeToo.
	We have all kinds of MeToo stuff in the news again.
	In fact, I should probably hit the table.
	And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
	I think you have a clip, and I'll probably follow it up with my clip on Cody Wilson.
	I think you had a clip.
	Did I see you had one?
	What clip do I have?
	What does it say?
	The sexual assault against plastic gun guy.
	Oh yeah, the Cody Wilson guy got a sexual assault.
	It's very sketchy.
	But it starts off talking about how he's in Taiwan and they make it...
	The way they play it, this CBSN, the way they play it is though it's suspicious.
	Yes, he's in Taiwan.
	Even though he says he goes there for business, but it looks like he might be trying to escape.
	The guy makes...
	Stuff that runs on 3D printers.
	Taiwan is one of the places you'd go to talk to the manufacturers so you can get in on what they're up to in the next generation.
	And you say, oh, that's good to know that you guys are – this is what you do.
	You go to Taiwan or China to talk to the guys about their next generation products.
	Police say they do not know why Wilson went to Taiwan, but that he travels there frequently for business.
	Wilson is the owner of a company that sells blueprints for untraceable 3D-printed guns online.
	A judge ordered him to stop selling the plans, but he's since found a loophole.
	If convicted of sexual assault, Wilson could face up to 20 years in prison.
	Hold on, let me play my clip.
	That's a little different.
	Hold on.
	The man who tried to sell blueprints for making untraceable plastic guns is now accused of sexually assaulting an underage girl.
	By the way, this is completely not the truth.
	This is not the story, but Shep Smith is just how the story goes.
	The truth gets twisted around.
	Cops say Cody Wilson met the girl on a dating website called Sugar Daddy Meat and paid her $500 after he had sex in a hotel room in Austin, Texas.
	Investigators say they have surveillance video of them getting off an elevator together.
	I'm shocked I'm not aware of sugar daddy meat in Austin, Texas.
	I'm shocked, I tell you.
	Yeah, I would be if I were you.
	The alleged victim told police.
	Wilson bragged that he was a big deal.
	We're still waiting to hear from Wilson and his attorney.
	It smells like a setup and a honey trap to me.
	You know, they find out the guys, because, you know, you've seen these sites, sugardaddy.com, and you support, and these sugardaddies support these women with rent or whatever it is, and then...
	And then, you know, if you believe the testimonials and the articles written about it, a lot of these guys don't even want sex.
	They just want to have two girls hanging around, whatever their deal is.
	You know, maybe this guy was into that, and then they set him up.
	Well, he seems to be set up for sure.
	There's nonsense about him being in Taiwan as though he's on the run.
	He's on the lam.
	And 17 is, I believe, the age of consent in Texas, isn't it?
	You're asking me?
	I don't know.
	I can look it up.
	Look it up.
	As far as I know, 17 has always been the age of consent in Texas.
	So she's 17.
	What difference does it make?
	Well, they say it was a minor and that they were tracking him.
	Yes, under 17.
	You're right.
	So we have that little anomaly.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	That's a good catch.
	I didn't realize that.
	Well, so it's just to make the guy look like a douche.
	Some fed, some fed, working in the bureaucrat, you know...
	This dark state or whatever you want to call it.
	Some fed hate it.
	He hates this guy because he got screwed over because Cody got out from this from his little printing business by finding a loophole, which means the law was written in such a way that gave him that opportunity.
	Loopholes are it's not a loophole.
	It's not like he discovered something.
	It was there.
	And then this guy got irked.
	And so they set him up.
	It's a setup.
	And then they got it wrong because she's 17 in a state where it's legal.
	I heard him on a podcast, I should have clipped it, where he said, oh, they're setting me.
	They said, I'm targeted.
	Something's going to happen.
	You watch.
	It's going to happen.
	But I didn't have time to verify when that was recorded and everything, so I didn't clip it.
	But apparently he knew it was coming.
	We had another one.
	Something that was not so much...
	We'll do that in a second.
	Let's get to the next, the true hashtag me too.
	From Mark Cuban.
	Okay.
	Set your clip up and we'll see if I need to play mine or not.
	Okay, this is kind of just a rundown on the changes in the Mavericks organization and somehow Cuban is like, oh, they got nothing to do with it.
	I'm going to change some managers because there's one guy, total douchebag, who was running the place.
	You don't have guys like...
	It's always from the top down.
	I don't care what anybody thinks.
	If you've got about 10 guys working for you, they're all horrible douchebags.
	You're a douchebag.
	You're a douche.
	You're the worst.
	And so they don't mention the fact that then he was shook down for $10 million by some organization.
	That's what got me laughing to myself.
	Independent investigation into the Dallas Mavericks turned up disturbing details about the business side of the NBA franchise.
	There was pervasive sexual harassment and other serious workplace misconduct.
	And by that, I mean threats, intimidation and two instances where an employee engaged in domestic violence.
	Sports Illustrated first detailed the allegation seven months ago, which prompted owner Mark Cuban to hire a new CEO, Cynthia Marshall, and order an investigation.
	The report turned up substantiated allegations against three male administrative employees, including claims from 15 women alleging a pattern of misconduct from former team president Turdema Assery throughout his tenure.
	There were two women who came forward to report that he had engaged in forcible kissing, that he had kissed them on the lips.
	There were times that employees said that he repeatedly touched them on their thighs, often under the table where no one could see.
	Investigators say Ussery denied most of the claims and there were no complaints in his file.
	Not a single witness said that they had told Cuban anything.
	Investigators recommended the Mavericks hire more women and improve formal reporting practices.
	We have a speak-up culture now.
	Speak up culture.
	Yeah, so I don't think...
	The shakedown was he's giving...
	Cuban is giving $10 million to organizations that promote awareness and something.
	I think some specific organization.
	Oh, I only saw it was organizations.
	It felt fuzzy to me.
	It felt real fuzzy.
	Like, that's not a fine...
	That's not a fine of any service.
	No, it's not a fine.
	It's nothing.
	And nobody told Cuban about these guys because they knew that as they told Cuban, they'd get fired.
	You want to hear Cuban on the topic himself?
	Like, all emotional?
	Oh, yeah.
	Which I think...
	This, I believe...
	As I believe how karma goes around.
	Now, I understand Cuban.
	I think at a certain point, maybe when I had a lot of cash and, you know, things were going my way and things I'd predicted came true and I had money.
	You have to have the combination, otherwise you're just some dude, a podcaster, who says he's from the future.
	And, yeah, you get a little cocky, but Cuban is cocky.
	He's a cocky guy, and he had a lot of fortunate circumstances take place.
	Very smart to take anything away from him.
	But he's been cocky.
	The machine's going to come around to him.
	And this interview may be the one that's going to hurt him the most.
	As, again, he's at the top of the organization.
	Here's how he's...
	I think this is ESPN, actually.
	First, just an apology to the women involved.
	The women that, in a couple cases, were assaulted.
	And not just to them, but to their families.
	Because this is not something that just is an incident and then it's over.
	It stays with people and it stays with families.
	And I'm just sorry I didn't see it.
	I'm just sorry I didn't recognize it.
	And I just hope that out of this we'll be better and we can avoid it and we can help make everybody just smarter about the whole thing.
	When you read through the report and you really read the details of things that you hadn't known about before, what stood out to you as the most difficult and sort of what people had to go through?
	Just the pain that they went through.
	with my company.
	It just...
	It was the same way I felt when I stood in front of Mavs employees for the first time after this came out.
	You know?
	And I apologized to them.
	It...
	It's just never in my wildest dreams that I think that this was happening right underneath me.
	And I'd never...
	The pain that people went through, the pain that people shared with me as this happened, the tears that I saw...
	It was just...
	It hurt.
	And the way I felt is nothing compared to the way they felt.
	I'm glad you said that at the end.
	A lot about you, Mr.
	Cuban.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Doesn't this contradict the report that I had, clipped?
	To which degree?
	To the degree that they said no one ever told Cuban, and now he's telling us that they're coming up to him crying and sobbing?
	Well, this is after the fact, now that it's all out there, apparently.
	No, we don't know.
	He never really explained the timeline here.
	Okay, I'm just being presumptuous, but...
	Anyways, like, we didn't know.
	I didn't know.
	I mean, I'm so in touch with such a great organization, but I don't know what's going on in it.
	That's the contradiction.
	That's the contradiction.
	That is really a bad thing to say.
	Yeah, you know, this is the family.
	This is the Maverick family.
	The organization's out of control?
	I thought you owned it.
	I mean, they don't even call them companies or teams.
	They call them the organization because we're organized.
	And not only that, but he's a hands-on guy.
	Uh-huh.
	Apparently a little too hands-on.
	Oh-hoo!
	Johnny C. D. Vorak.
	And then, although not really, actually we should conclude this.
	And this concludes your sexual harassment update.
	It was kind of a shake-up in the open-source community.
	As after years of abusive emails, the creator of Linux steps aside.
	Have you been following the Linus Torvalds story?
	No, I have not.
	You have to brief me on this.
	Oh, my goodness.
	He has come to the realization.
	And now, Linus Torvalds, I'll try and summarize.
	I guess he took GNU Linux and created Linux, whoever story you believe.
	But he's been running the kernel, which is the core guts of the Linux operating system.
	And it's a very tough job.
	It's a very political job.
	And it's all in consuming.
	This is a lifestyle, if you want to be someone who runs a project like that and makes these decisions.
	And because it's a committee of one, it's him, as far as I know, this just list and conversation.
	You can only imagine if you've ever seen anything online.
	It gets crazy and he would say, you know, shut up and fuck off and all these kinds of things to people sometimes on these lists.
	And now all of a sudden he's come to Jesus.
	Maybe literally, I don't know.
	And he says that, you know, I've now realized that I've been very abusive towards people and I need to step back and get some help and learn how to be less confrontational.
	So, you know, it's like they activated the chip or something or, I don't know, just all of a sudden something happened in his life or he came to this realization that he's been abusive.
	And, you know, I'm not quite sure.
	No one's really sure where this is coming from.
	Other than that's en vogue.
	Linus Torvalds?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Pulling back.
	Now, I don't know exactly what that means.
	Maybe he's just fed up.
	Yeah, it's just a way to get out.
	I can imagine that, too.
	Yeah.
	I can imagine that for sure.
	I mean, that's what I think Musk is trying to do.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	There's more and more I watch Musk.
	I keep thinking this guy is trying to get out of what he sees as eventual sinking ship that's just not going to turn the corner.
	He's got good people.
	He knows how to hire people.
	He's got to have a bookkeeper that says, look.
	This is not going to happen.
	We're not going to be able to do this.
	We're not going to be able to do that.
	All these promises you've made aren't going to, it may be in some distant future, but we're running, we're burning through cash.
	There's no way.
	And once the government, and you got Trump in office, he might get reelected.
	He's not going to let these government subsidies continue.
	Oh, no, of course not.
	Of course not.
	So it's like the writing's on the wall.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's probably a better way for the company to go, but they don't have a successor.
	They need someone, an obvious next in line who has some visibility if he wants to pull that.
	I mean, even he should understand that.
	Okay, here's what we're going to look for.
	We're going to start seeing a name crop up.
	Yep.
	Keep an eye out for it.
	That is either a protege of Musk or somebody who's important to the company or somebody.
	It's got to be a visionary though, John.
	It's got to be someone with some kind of vision or they just won't let him go.
	We'll see.
	With that, I'd like to not let you go and thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John, say where the C stands for Cycles of Bikes, Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, subs in the water, feet in the air, subs in the water, games and nights out there.
	And in the morning to the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Fabulous to have everybody there.
	It always feels just like I'm back home, no matter where I am.
	I see those trolls in the troll room, and it makes me feel good.
	And a hearty in the morning to Conan Salata for the artwork for episode 10, Soissons Neuf 69, titled That Was German Spam.
	And it was, we've had a lot of ant artwork based upon an ant story, and this was a fine revisit to how you can really get rid of ants.
	One of our supporters had donated, thanking you, or his family had reminded him to thank you for teaching him how to get rid of ants.
	And that, of course, involves the torching of certain elements of the ant family.
	This is one of the best singed ant corpses I've ever seen on the art generator.
	It was very nice.
	Very nice work.
	Conan Salata.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where we find all of this talent and we're always extremely appreciative of it.
	Thank you very much for your courage and your support of the No Agenda Show.
	We do have some people to thank, and we have the curious phenomenon of a bunch of executive producers and one lone associate.
	Oh, again, that was the same as the last Thursday's show.
	Yeah.
	So we have, yeah, right, on Sunday.
	So we have Sir Julian in Morgan Hill, California is our number one guy that they're...
	$1,000 and $1.001.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, that was pretty good.
	What does he say?
	He says, checking in again to hit that Earl level.
	He's going for Earl.
	Oh, cool.
	I'd like to encourage all listeners and producers to get on a budget, pay cash for everything, and work towards having a FICO score of zero.
	Yeah!
	The borrower is slave to the lender.
	That's right.
	All the money you're sending Visa MasterCard, you could be building wealth and supporting the things in life that really matter.
	Like sanity.
	NJNK, Sir Julian, soon to be Earl of the South Bay and autonomous cars.
	Nice, thank you.
	Wise words as well, Sir Julian.
	Thank you very much for your courage.
	And then by coincidence...
	Suronymous of Dogpatch.
	Hey, he's back!
	Good to hear from him.
	He comes in once a month.
	Suronymous of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia.
	Yes.
	With $900.
	Interesting.
	Your analysis, and he writes in, he's got a note, he writes, he's anonymous as he can be.
	Your analysis and travel reports remain great.
	And the jingle's end-of-show mixes artwork, insight, and intelligence from the many listeners and, of course, the technology that runs the show.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Clearly makes this the greatest collection of producers in the universe.
	Wow.
	Thanks to all the in-kind producers for making this show such a great and informative experience twice a week.
	I can only help financially.
	I remain annoyed by the use of the term democracy rather than republic by the elected officials and reporters when speaking of the United States governance.
	Saying the US is a democracy is like nails on a blackboard to me.
	Right on.
	Preach!
	I have lived in seven of these sovereign states and each is unique and proud of their independence in thought and governance.
	Yeah.
	He lived in Illinois for a while.
	Right, I guess.
	Each of these sovereign states have hated Washington politics and its influence, except California, and also want their share of federal taxes paid by their citizens back.
	Citizens, read the federalist papers or move up to – move to another state.
	Answering a question from an earlier letter regarding my baby brother, Angelic Knight, in regards to his no longer being tracked by the Secret Service because of his location.
	Okay.
	The word sharps are things like knives, which apparently was used, are things like knives, scissors, razors, screwdrivers, pens, and pencils.
	It's a regional term.
	But is your circle of friends and family that clean, given the percentage of Americans that have such restrictions?
	Hold on, John, hold on.
	You said something.
	The troll room is yelling about, you said, it's Washington?
	You're supposed to say Washington?
	Washington.
	Yeah, I don't know why.
	Or do you never visit them?
	Curious observation.
	So, I don't know who he's talking to, because I don't remember the note he's referring to.
	Yeah, I don't remember either.
	But I was going over this with the family.
	Oh, good.
	And we think this is some sort of code.
	Okay.
	Lay it down again.
	I want to see if I can understand it.
	Answering a question from an earlier letter regarding my baby brother, Angelic Knight, no longer being tracked by the Secret Service because of his location.
	Sharps are things like knives, scissors, razors, screwdrivers, pens and pencils.
	It is a regional term, but is your circle of friends and family that clean, given the percentage of Americans that have such restrictions, or you just never visit them?
	Curious observation.
	We follow the rabbit and dawn.
	The wet swallow flies at night.
	I love him!
	Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch.
	We don't know what he's talking about, but he does say NJNK and we thank him for that.
	Yes, and thank you for your support.
	And really for thanking everybody.
	That's how the Value Network works.
	And he recognizes that and that's very encouraging.
	Thank you.
	Ken Anderson in Excelsior, Minnesota Nuts.
	Requesting an F cancer and karma for a friend who just lost his amazing and caring mother, Mary Pat.
	Thank you for your courage.
	You've got karma.
	It was 33333 and Kayla Nistor is 333 in Northville, Michigan.
	Most part of our executive producer month.
	Congratulations, Adam and Tina.
	He's catching up.
	From Sir Cal and the Lavender Blossom team.
	The Scott Adams interview was great.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Yeah, that's Cal from lavenderblossoms.org.
	For all of the No Agenda CBD products.
	Anonymous in Otis, Louisiana, 333.
	John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry, Zoe.
	Salty Hash likes Rhino the bearded more than Nick the rat.
	Oh, it's more code.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Let's say this again.
	What is he saying?
	My wife says, you're going to be knocking at your door.
	Hey, AJ, make sure to call me if the dad gets carried away by two guys in suits.
	Reading a bunch of coded material here on the show.
	I don't know.
	I don't know either.
	All I do is read the notes.
	They write a note.
	They give us some money to read it, so I'll read it.
	I don't know.
	Is that bad?
	Okay, go on.
	Quote, Salty Hash likes Rhino the Bearded more than Nick Durrett.
	I am knighting today to support Nick Durrett.
	Please knight me, sir.
	Gene-witch.
	No, he's in the troll room all the time.
	Oh, okay.
	Gene-witch.
	I think it's Gene-witch.
	We're on Twitter.
	I see him everywhere.
	Gene-witch, that guy.
	That guy is such a Gene-witch.
	And last, we have James Bickhouse, $209.18, and he'll be our associate executive producer.
	Every year around this time, he writes, I donate in honor of my daughter, Elena, who passed on 9-18-2014.
	Been listening since episode one.
	Lots of cancer donations lately, so please tune up to F Cancer Jingle.
	Thanks, Jim.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Yeah, I'm going to hit it again real loud this time, okay?
	Here we go.
	One, two.
	I've got to put on the boost.
	The boost.
	Fucking cancer!
	You've got karma.
	There I am.
	Boosted it.
	So there is our executive and associate executive producers for show 1070.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for helping us keep the show going.
	And you do get credits for doing that.
	Yes.
	You certainly do get credits.
	And we really appreciate it because it just really solidifies the entire idea behind this crazy model that we thought up.
	Coming up in 11 years, John.
	Coming up in 11.
	Okay, that was unnecessary, but okay.
	Thank you.
	These titles you receive, Executive Producer and Associate Executive Producer, are actual titles.
	You can use them anywhere titles are recognized.
	Using them on the LinkedIn does seem to result in work, and we're very proud of that.
	And we will also be thanking everybody who came in $50 and above in our second segment.
	And we have another show on Sunday, sometimes known as Thursday.
	Remember us at dvorak.org.
	Slash N-A. So much to deconstruct.
	Yes, we've got a lot for you to go out and talk about.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, play.
	We'll be right back.
	Shut up, slave.
	Making a lot of noise there, son.
	Making a lot of noise.
	Let's see.
	I picked up a few more things.
	Now, did we even get to the China tariffs?
	I didn't play those.
	No, you didn't.
	You just went back to discuss bikes.
	Right, BBC World.
	Okay, yeah, that's what was wrong.
	So I'm missing one of the three clips.
	Doesn't matter.
	We'll play these two.
	So the BBC World Service talked about these tariffs, and as we already discussed, the Kavanaugh stuff kind of took over in the States, which was great because here it was talked about a bit more, and it was, you know, shocking, shocking what's going on.
	Here is BBC World Service on the tariffs with a response from the Chinese.
	For how much longer can the world's two biggest economies engage in a damaging trade war before one of them runs up a white flag?
	China has fired the latest salvo, imposing tariffs or taxes on $60 billion worth of imports from the United States.
	It was responding to President Trump's decision to levy further tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods.
	The Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, Gong Shuang, said no one should be surprised at China's response.
	I want to reiterate that in response to the action taken by the United States, China has to take necessary countermeasures to defend its own legitimate rights and interests and to safeguard the global order of free trade.
	The US action has brought new uncertainties to the trade negotiations between the two sides.
	We've already expressed our position on China-US trade issues many times, and I think it has already been made clear to everyone.
	So, the second clip, unfortunately, was part of a nice threesome because they explained there that the Chinese are kind of running out of tariffs to put in place because of the trade deficit.
	Well, they have a huge trade surplus.
	Trump knows this, and I don't understand why people can't get it, is that if the worst they can do to you is tax this much, it's one-tenth of what we can tax of their stuff, They're the ones that would get hurt the most.
	It's always obvious.
	It's basically, I think, about $120 billion to $600 billion.
	I think that's the difference in numbers.
	Yeah, but it doesn't seem like a...
	Actually, it seems like a no-brainer.
	It's like, eventually, you're going to lose.
	This is just a bigger stick.
	But...
	And this was interesting from the World Service.
	There's a lot of shenanigans going on behind the scenes that is actually much more important.
	But the other things which have been happening behind the scenes include China withholding permission for a U.S. tech company to acquire a Dutch chip maker that had been several years in the negotiations.
	And they just simply sat on their hands and did nothing.
	So they didn't grant permission.
	That M&A fell apart.
	The United States has restricted access by Chinese tech company ZTE to key components from America, such as semiconductor chips.
	And that calls China's second biggest telecoms equipment maker to virtually go unders.
	So those restrictions on investment, what they could do in terms of how business operate across borders, are far more damaging than tariffs because those decisions can't really be reversed.
	President Trump could decide tomorrow he's changed his mind on tariffs and they could just be removed.
	But once a company changes its supply chain, And actually have much bigger economic consequences.
	I thought the ZTE thing had been solved.
	It sounded from that report like there was still an issue.
	I can't have to look into it now.
	Yeah, because that was the whole...
	I mean, I know that our thesis is that Trump tried to save that deal to help...
	Because, you know, you're right.
	Collapsing.
	That's what we don't...
	Right, tariffs can change overnight.
	That's true.
	I mean, this is also, there's a lot of stuff going on with mindset these days, and you get into this, you know, your own personal loop of, oh my gosh, you know, but when you step back for a second, tariffs, yeah, tariffs here tomorrow, poof, gone tomorrow.
	Yeah, here today, gone tomorrow.
	It's a very simple thing.
	What was that first report, though, about the Dutch chip company?
	What's that got to do with China?
	Yeah.
	It was an acquisition.
	And these are big deals.
	There's an American acquisition of a Dutch chip company.
	In China.
	I guess.
	I don't know which one it is.
	Someone knows.
	What's China got to do with that?
	I just keep asking the question.
	Is this Dutch?
	I really don't know.
	Hey, John, I really don't know.
	Who's the tech guy here?
	I'm the DJ, man.
	I'm just a podcaster.
	Yeah, that's a good thing to fall back on.
	Hey, just a few years ago, I was in the fourth grade, man.
	Like, baby.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Hold on.
	What is going on here?
	Something strange just happened with my...
	You know the EU can put the kibosh on a lot of these international deals.
	The kibosh?
	Yeah, the kibosh or the kibosh.
	Yeah.
	They just say, no, you can't buy the company.
	They're actually going to say, yeah, you can buy them, but then you can never do business in our country again.
	Right.
	Maybe there's something like that going on with China.
	That would be interesting because...
	I think they could get away with that.
	The EU's been getting away with it forever.
	We also have to take into consideration the stuff that Google is doing or wants to do.
	A lot of things could be playing out that we're really not privy to because we have no news information sources.
	Yeah, there's no news people covering anything.
	I mean, yeah, it's not true.
	The Google thing is hilarious because it's their internal strife, you know, the do-gooders and social justice warriors that the company's hired over the years that won't let Google do what it wants to do business-wise.
	I think that's, to me, it's just hilarious.
	Oh, yeah.
	I just wanted to play this clip just because what he says is kind of funny, but I don't know if you saw Joe Biden.
	No.
	Well, here's what he said.
	These forces of intolerance remain determined to undermine and roll back the progress you all have made.
	This time, they, not you, have an ally in the White House.
	This time, they have an ally.
	They're a small percentage of the American people, virulent people, some of them the dregs of society.
	And instead of using the full might of the executive branch to secure justice, dignity, safety for all, the President uses the White House as a literal, literal bully pulpit, callously, callously exerting his power over those who have little or none.
	So I play the clip because, of course, he said some of the people who support the president are dregs of society.
	Dregs.
	Dregs of society.
	But you really need to find that clip or look at a recent photo of Joe.
	Because whenever he...
	I mean, he looks older.
	He looks much thinner.
	But whenever he turns his face profile...
	There's a great No Agenda movie that we recommend everybody watch.
	It's not our movie.
	This is a No Agenda type movie.
	It's actually, in a way, a cornerstone of the show is They Live, which Roddy Piper stars in this.
	And I think it's a Carpenter movie.
	It was a John Carpenter movie.
	John Carpenter's only horror movie.
	No, he did horror movies, but it was the only science fiction movie ever.
	Science fiction movie, yeah.
	And it is a must-watch.
	It's not the best-made movie.
	No, but it's very funny.
	Yes.
	And so when you have these glasses on, you see words like obey and shut up, slave, and all this.
	But...
	There's a number of people in the world, and these are the elites, and when you have the glasses on, you can see kind of their skeletor-like faces.
	Joe Biden looks like one of them on profile when you see him today, and specifically in this clip.
	You cannot...
	Send me a link.
	Let's put a link in the newsletter.
	Oh, okay.
	What's some pictures?
	I have some pictures in the newsletter.
	I think if you do a quick Bing, you might even see it.
	Really?
	Just do Joe Biden dregs of society.
	Just do that.
	What's Bing?
	No, please.
	Please, don't do this to me.
	All right, all right.
	I'll do it.
	Since you're on the creeps.
	I got some creeps.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	Someone will do some show art you watch.
	We'll see you right after the show.
	We'll be done.
	You'll see.
	Except from They Live.
	Yeah, but you don't have to even do anything to the guy.
	I mean, he looks like one of those people.
	You can't unsee it when it happens.
	Okay, well now I don't want to see it.
	How do you spell Bing?
	Really?
	That took you that long?
	Yeah, but please.
	Did you get the picture I sent you from Switzerland of Bing House?
	No.
	Yeah, I did.
	It was a Chinese restaurant named Bing House.
	I don't know.
	There was something weird about it.
	Bing House.
	Bing is a big name in certain parts of China.
	I know, but when you put house after it, Bing House.
	H-A-U-S? Yes.
	No, that's funny.
	So, I've got this podcast, which I'm sorry that I don't have the name of the podcast.
	It's a violation, man.
	It's a violation.
	It is a violation, but I still have the clip.
	This guy, it's actually kind of a right-wing podcast, but there's a guy I've never heard him before, and now I've heard him a lot because I've tracked him down, is Brad Johnson.
	He's a Ray McGovern-like ex-CIA guy, and he...
	He revealed some stuff here that I didn't know.
	You won't know.
	It's like really weird stuff.
	But this is a series of clips.
	I got three clips about Brennan being a Muslim.
	Yes, we've asserted this for quite a while.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Well, let's start with the zero.
	Clip was zero.
	Or it says Zerp.
	Zerp.
	Brandon converts.
	This is the opening clip of the podcast.
	Now look, I want to narrow in here on what John Guandolo has been pointing to over the years.
	It's just incredible how this has become a taboo subject in terms of how CNN talks about this collusion nonsense every night.
	You would think that the media would have been talking about this every night and should continue talking about it.
	John Brennan's conversion to Islam while he was in Saudi Arabia.
	Did this happen?
	Did this not happen?
	Let's say it didn't happen.
	But why can't this question be asked?
	Why hasn't anybody in the establishment media even asked this question one time?
	It's absolutely incredible.
	And it matters if a CIA station chief converts to Islam and is devout and takes Surah's 9.5 and 9.29 seriously.
	It's an issue.
	John Guandolo, what did you know about this back then and what do you know about it now?
	Well, first of all, I want to comment on something that Brad just said because I think it's really critical.
	When I first brought this story to light and gave an interview about it, I had sources in Saudi Arabia that had direct knowledge that John Brennan said the Shahada while he was the station chief over there.
	And here is what I said in summation on that interview.
	It was the fact, and this is what Brad's talking about, is his incompetency, his unprofessionalism, John Brennan's unprofessionalism.
	When you do that in front of Saudi Mubahith, when you do that in front of Saudi officials, it just leaves this huge question mark of where's your loyalty, where's your maturity, where's your professionalism?
	Those are the questions I raised.
	So it goes on and they bring this guy, this Brad Johnson on.
	They go back and forth.
	He was obviously on earlier.
	And Brad Johnson, he's the one.
	We knew the guy who was there to witness it because we had a clip of him some time ago, like a couple years ago on the show.
	But this Brad Johnson character is really interesting.
	And this is the Brennan Converse to Islam on podcast one.
	There's that video of John Brennan giving this little talk there.
	Everybody look it up.
	Just look up John Brennan on YouTube.
	Says Islam is a religion of peace and she had whatever.
	It's a three minute clip.
	And he's just on fire talking about Islam being a religion of peace and he's speaking Arabic.
	And I've studied fellow travelers all my life.
	And that euphoria that he's in, it's a typical fellow traveler that's worshiping the totalitarian entity that he's in front of.
	It's just a very creepy video.
	Let me go to you, Brad.
	Hopefully you'll say what you think of that video as well.
	But let's begin, Brad.
	What did you hear while you were at the CIA about Brennan's conversion?
	Well, that it's true.
	I mean, I do have, I would say my information is similar to John's.
	I have a close personal friend I've known for nearly 40 years who was there, speaks Arabic and so on, and says he personally witnessed all of this.
	So, I believe it's true.
	Now, that's not first-hand knowledge, it's second-hand knowledge, but it's second-hand knowledge from someone who was there, who I know was there, and had access to know, and...
	I'm fully convinced that it's true that he converted to Islam.
	I have a couple questions.
	First of all, when this guy says, fellow travelers, is he being fellow Muslims, people who've converted to Islam?
	I'm not quite sure what he meant by that.
	No, I think what he refers to, this actually goes back to the days of the communist scare in the 50s and fellow travelers or people that were subversives.
	Oh.
	And you could spot them by their kind of zealotry, and it's a style that indicates that they're really not, they're on a specific side of things, and just in the back of the 50s would be the communists, the old communists.
	And fellow traveler, if you look it up, is really referring to just part of a group of kind of I wouldn't call them creeps, but people that are not really on your side, and he's working for the enemy.
	And secondly, okay, so he converted to Islam.
	He was there for, he was station chief, and, you know, he learned the language.
	He started to read a bit.
	It's like, you know, like people go to India, and they come back all enlightened.
	You're like, oh, I'm a swami-gumi.
	And what difference does it make?
	So the guy's a Muslim.
	Does it matter?
	Is he the CIA? He's not supposed to be changing religions in the middle of his gig.
	And then of course after turning...
	Is that in the handbook?
	It better be.
	And then in the bigger scheme of things, since some people believe that Obama was a Muslim, that's why he put him as the head of the CIA. Because in fact he may have been appealing to Obama by switching religions.
	Somebody may have told him Obama's a Muslim and he's like working for us.
	Now...
	With that in mind, you have to listen to this part, which you've heard none of this even suggested anywhere, and this is where Brad continues.
	I think that Brennan is still extraordinarily active within the intelligence field, and I think the fact that his clearance was taken away was a fabulous stroke of genius on the part of President Trump.
	I think it's going to be extraordinarily helpful, and let me explain why.
	They just named a new deputy director of the CIA, a guy named Von Bishop.
	Now, Von Bishop...
	Handpicked by the current director, Gina Haspel.
	Now, there's something out of that that's extraordinarily unusual, and that he was pulled out of retirement to come back and fill this deputy director of the CIA slot.
	Now, that does happen from time to time, but in his case, it's the second time.
	He was also pulled out of retirement by none other than John Brennan to fill the position of arms budsman for his modernization program that we were referring to earlier.
	Now, that's one guy.
	There's another guy now who's the chief operating officer, the COO for the CIA, a guy named Andrew McCritus.
	Andrew was also handpicked by Gina Haspel also pulled out of retirement to be put into that position and previously was also handpicked by John Brennan to act as the head of the task force that he created to implement this modernization program.
	So, now, Gina Haspel herself was somebody that was a close association.
	Nobody's looked at her either.
	Even in her hearings, her confirmation hearings at the Senate, nobody asked her anything that was very tough.
	They were going on about the torture program and the waterboarding and all of that.
	But ask yourself this question.
	Gina Haspel, again, there's a pattern here.
	Gina Haspel was chief of station in London.
	She was handpicked and brought back and made Chief of Station in London a second time by none other than John Brennan and at a time when the Steele dossier was being put together.
	There's not been one person to ever ask a question of Gina Haspel about any of that.
	Now, don't know, but I would certainly like to know, did Gina Haspel have any part of any of that?
	All of these people that formed the leadership of the CIA are all close associates of John Brennan.
	The reason I mentioned that I think that this was such a serendipitous act to pull his clearance, he bitches and pisses and moans about the fact that his First Amendment rights are under attack by having this clearance pulled.
	But he's on MSNBC and NBC all the time saying whatever he wants.
	The fact that his clearance was pulled makes it easier for him to speak out, not harder, because he doesn't have the problem of maybe mixing up current classified information with whatever the topic of the day is on the news.
	It makes it better.
	What makes it harder for him now is he cannot go back and have classified conversations with all the current leadership within the CIA, which are his close associates.
	So I think that's the real reason that John Brennan is so angry today at President Trump for having lost his clearance.
	Okay, I liked a lot of what I heard, but just help me understand the bridge again between the clearance and him being a Muslim?
	There's nothing about the clearance and him being a Muslim.
	The Muslim thing is just second to this, is that he handpicked all these people.
	They're all part of the same cadre.
	They might all be Muslims for all I know, but this Brennan guy is a bad guy.
	Yeah.
	Yes, that's apparent.
	And apparently everybody at the top of the CIA are all protégés.
	And so we're not – and you still have the CIA versus the Trump White House.
	Yeah, defense versus CIA. And still against the NSA. Uh-huh.
	And there's all this, it's just, all I like from that clip is just, what intrigue.
	Now, we knew, we knew that Brennan was really nice to Gina Haskell.
	In fact, we had a clip of that.
	Hold on.
	Um, Brennan, let's see if I have Brennan Gina.
	No, how about Brennan Haskell?
	Let me try that.
	And I know we had a clip.
	Damn it.
	Okay.
	Can't find it.
	But we had a clip of him being very, very courteous towards her appointment as CIA director.
	And there was someone else we had saying, you know, that she was his protege.
	And we thought it was odd at the time as well.
	But Trump certainly knows who he's putting in there, doesn't he?
	Maybe he doesn't.
	I don't know.
	Maybe he doesn't know nothing.
	He may have been hornswoggled.
	Hornswoggled?
	This is a phrase from the chaise.
	Cornswoggled?
	What does this mean?
	I don't know.
	I may have just made it up.
	Duped?
	Duped.
	He may have been duped.
	Duped.
	Okay.
	Okay, I could have been.
	But the CIA culture is not going to go anywhere with her at the top, apparently.
	And her henchmen surrounding the head of the operation.
	Right.
	I don't know what the agency's going to do if they have...
	If this is...
	Brennan's still somehow involved.
	He may be violating his various things that he signed off on.
	Who knows?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I just don't like the guy.
	And I think he seems to be...
	No, he's definitely a bad actor.
	Yeah, definitely.
	And he's working against the good of the country.
	And he's...
	Have you never seen anybody...
	Complain so bitterly about their CIA guy.
	After they retire, they usually go away.
	They shut up.
	They don't start making a scene.
	Well, he's trying to save the country and the world.
	For what?
	Well, that's what he says.
	Because Trump!
	Trump!
	Trump!
	That's why.
	We all know this.
	Anyway, I just thought that was all good stuff.
	You know, this kind of plays into...
	I got a note from Jane.
	Jane says, I am a, quote, normal mom of five who follows Q. And I need to let you know that Q does not post on Reddit and was not shut down like you reported on Sunday.
	So I just wanted to respond and say, yeah, we know that.
	But if that was your takeaway, I'm sorry.
	Obviously, this was a discussion board on Reddit, The Great Awakening.
	It's where Q drops are discussed and proofs are posted.
	But, she says, I don't mean to joke because this silent civil war that's been going on since Trump won the presidency is real,
	and Q has motivated so many to research and think critically.
	Thank you for wearing your Q goggles.
	Sometimes it means everything to me.
	All the best from Jane.
	So I do want to say that I think we're pretty aware of the overall bad, and this actually goes right back to the movie They Live.
	I'm pretty sure John and I agree that a version of that is going on.
	John?
	Well, if you want to take it in the broadest strokes...
	Metaphorically speaking.
	Yeah, there's a version going on, for sure.
	You can tell it by these people, and you just watch the mainstream media when we're talking about...
	How about the redacted text messages?
	Journalists are saying, no, we don't want to read the scoops.
	What is that all about?
	Yes, this is a thing I pointed out in the newsletter, and it's been pointed out by many a person, is that Trump is going to unclassify the FISA warrant and a whole bunch of other items, and the journalists are all bent out of shape because they're, I don't know what they're afraid of.
	I think they're all, every one of them is a paid agent.
	And they're paid to say this because there's no journalist in his right mind that wouldn't want to see more and more and more.
	I mean, if you're a journalist, you want to get right in there.
	You want to see the secret documents.
	You want to be able to analyze all the papers.
	You don't want to, oh no, they're releasing more stuff for me to have to, unless you're just lazy and nobody's that lazy.
	I mean, that actually makes you less lazy because here's the document.
	You don't even have to do any work.
	Just copy and paste.
	It's perfect for journalists.
	So there's a couple of scary things here.
	One, it's actually, I find it scarier that the journalists may actually have been so brainwashed into not wanting for this to be released.
	That is absolutely possible, John, that it's just a complete amygdalitis.
	And people have gone insane.
	It's possible.
	Or the matrix has been reprogrammed for some.
	The simulation.
	Or as you say, they are lazy.
	Which, no, that can't be true.
	But then, if they're really in Mockingbird and they're really on the payroll, we need to make a list.
	I'm sorry.
	I've been making a list all along.
	I mean, we do have some people on the list.
	Who do you have on the list?
	And we need to call this the list.
	And I want a list, and I want this list of people, because this is the clearest way.
	So the list will contain people who have mental issues, as journos, and we call it the Lib Joe list.
	I love that Lib Joe list.
	Somebody register at libjoelist.com.
	It's not the libjoelist.
	I mean, there's lots of libjos that are super libjos that aren't on the payroll.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but all right.
	It can't be the libjoelist.
	It can't be the libjoelist.
	Well, I need a name.
	Okay, we'll come up with something.
	Someone will figure something out.
	Suspicious fellow travelers.
	Fellow travelers.
	Um...
	But that is...
	So who's on your list?
	Who do you think is on the list so far?
	Richard Engel is one that comes to mind off the top of my head, who did that phony report where he was supposedly kidnapped or something.
	And then he was one of the guys that came out strongly against Dianne Feinstein wanting to release the torture report.
	Everybody who came out against the torture report Being released to the pub is one of these guys.
	I think that's too difficult.
	The idea is, here is something very clear.
	It's clearly something every journo wants to get their hands on.
	The ones who are saying, don't release the redacted information...
	They have to be on the payroll or mentally troubled.
	No, they're on the payroll.
	They have to be.
	Why else would anybody do that?
	Because I just want to cover our bases.
	You're either on the payroll, mentally troubled, or lazy.
	No, the lazy thing doesn't apply because as I explained, this makes just the opposite of lazy.
	Yes, you're right.
	So there's only two.
	Spooks or sick.
	I don't think there's two.
	Okay.
	Spook, so who is on the list?
	Who do we have now?
	This is the time to compile it.
	That's my point.
	For this case and this case only.
	Yeah, we have to start looking now.
	We can't do it during the show.
	We just have to start looking and see who's bitching and moaning the most.
	I would say, just off the top of my head, I would probably put Paul Krugman on there.
	I would look at all the New York Times guys and the Washington Post guys who would continually bitch and moan about the president.
	And if they bitch and moan about him releasing this stuff in any way, in any way, they should be on the list.
	We can call it the B-list.
	I like that.
	The B-list.
	The B-list.
	It's kind of good.
	B-holes.
	All right.
	I'm reading Troll Room.
	Onward to something from your state, which I thought you would have covered this.
	I'm very happy you don't have these clips because I got them.
	This was an extraordinary, extraordinary exhibit of words do matter.
	How a story as big as climate change and man-made climate change, anthropogenic global warming, global warming itself, but anthropogenic global warming man-made climate change has now morphed into just climate change.
	Which is a disservice to anyone viewing these programs that pass themselves off as news.
	Because the issue is not climate change.
	There's not so much a denial of the climate changing.
	There's denial of what causes it.
	But when you shorten that, you do a disservice.
	And then when you take it down to not saying CO2 but just carbon, it becomes really not the truth anymore.
	And Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC sat down with Jerry Brown at the global climate thing, Al Gore's, what is it called?
	I have no idea.
	Yeah, it's the climate something or other.
	Summit.
	Troll room.
	The chemtrails.
	Summit.
	The chemtrails summit.
	So they're all there and they're all chatting.
	They got actors and it's very much like the book.
	State of fear.
	Very, very similar to it.
	We got California burning down.
	We got North Carolina.
	We got all this stuff happening.
	So Andrea Mitchell is going to just assert all these truths.
	Oh, by the way, stop.
	Stop.
	She has to be on the list because she's one of the first people to bitch about Trump's releasing the documents.
	Yes, she is way on the list.
	So she sits down with your governor, Jerry Brown.
	And just, I mean, you really have to listen.
	The words matter.
	You have to listen to the way they're talking about what should be man-made climate change, anthropogenic global warming.
	It's hard to say, but as a news person and the governor, you've got to be a little accurate.
	Oh, it's one of the mistakes they made.
	Yes.
	And listen to her lip smacking, too.
	It's disgusting.
	California's Governor Jerry Brown announcing late Friday in the face of global warming, of climate change, and of what he calls the lack of a federal response that the state of California is going to send its own satellite into orbit.
	Hold on, it's the Global Climate Action Conference.
	Conference is what it is, John.
	Not the summit, the conference.
	Okay, we're back to Andrea.
	...of a federal response that the state of California is going to send its own satellite into orbit to track the progress of climate change.
	I love that little flub there, to trap, I mean track the progress of climate change.
	I'm not quite sure why, but I just like it.
	...of California is going to send its own satellite into orbit to track the progress of climate change.
	Which, of course, is causing hurricanes to be stronger and more severe.
	Oh, of course.
	Wait, wait.
	Just so you know.
	Climate change, which, of course, is why hurricanes are more severe and everything's just horrible, which is not true.
	We haven't had as many storms as we used to 15 years ago.
	Florida's been on constant watch.
	Yeah, we get a doozy from time to time, but no.
	No, just listen to this non-truth.
	This is not proven.
	Progress of climate change.
	Which, of course, is causing hurricanes to be stronger and more severe.
	Now, when was this asserted, John?
	A scientific fact.
	That was asserted right after Katrina.
	After one whopper, they said, oh, this is normal now.
	Every year is going to happen two or three of these things and then nothing for most of this show.
	And now we have the new phenomenon.
	I wish I had a clip of it.
	There's a guy going on about, oh, yeah, the new thing is these hurricanes because we have two in a row that were kind of like this.
	Yeah.
	Not the ones that hit China by any means.
	But we had this two in a row.
	One of them that goes, it kind of craps out.
	It's like a five, it's a four, it's a three, it's a two.
	Oh, no, it's a storm.
	And then it craps out right on top of some town and dumps a shitload of water.
	This is what happened in North Carolina.
	Oh, here it comes.
	It's a five.
	It's going to be worse than a five, a four, a three, a two, a one, and it dumps water.
	And now the thing is, this guy heard this guy going on and on about, well, what we've determined is this is going to be the way it is from now on.
	These storms, they're not going to pack a wall up except water.
	And what we figured out is that because of the warm ocean, and the warm ocean, by the way, was always used to say, oh, the warm ocean is going to create violent storms because it's all this energy.
	It's going to be sucked up by the hurricane.
	It's going to drop it all over the place.
	No, no, no.
	Not anymore.
	The warm water is going to put a lot of water in the system.
	So when the system scraps out, it's going to dump all this water from the warm ocean onto the town.
	These guys just keep changing it.
	I mean, it's like...
	It's like my mudflats that you've been here for 100 years.
	It's because that was, if you remember this one, it would turn out that Australia is some sort of a massive sponge that has been soaking up extra water.
	Come on!
	Does anybody see through this nonsense?
	No, no.
	It's a stock market analysis.
	Producer Joe says he was caught in Gangju for Mangkut.
	Does that sound like where the typhoon was?
	Maybe?
	He says, Which,
	of course, is causing hurricanes to be stronger and more severe.
	I talked to Jerry Brown at his Global Climate Action Summit late Friday.
	Summit!
	They say summit!
	You're right!
	State, local, and world leaders.
	We're in the midst of hurricanes and the aftermath of hurricanes, and you still have the President of the United States denying the science of climate change.
	How do you counteract that?
	Here she says, denying the science of climate change.
	That is such an abbreviation.
	Am I just ant-fucking with this, or is this really not okay?
	It's not okay.
	You are a little bit, but not to an extreme.
	This has been going on.
	But it's like, these people are grasping at straws.
	Yeah, let's listen.
	Just like the guy, the magician, keeps the plates spinning.
	And he's keeping all the plates in the air.
	Dying the science of climate change.
	How do you counteract that?
	Well, first I want to say it's really extraordinary that the president can deny science like that.
	But he's done so many other things.
	What's the word?
	I didn't even have an adjective.
	Amazing.
	We have an entire list of adjectives on the rotation.
	He can't come up with one, your governor.
	Can't come up with one shitty thing to say about Trump.
	But he's in so many other...
	What's the word?
	He's going to say terrible.
	He can't come up with anything.
	So it's bad.
	He's bad.
	And how you counteract it is with this climate summit, with normal people respecting the truth and communicating that with other normal people and combating the President of the United States.
	In what are lies, distortions, and quite frankly bizarre behavior.
	So we have to keep at it.
	I'm glad you gave me a chance to answer your question because we can't say it enough.
	The president is just wrong.
	I'm so concerned for you.
	I mean, you live in California, you're walking around.
	With that attitude, what you just heard your governor say is you're not normal.
	People are going to go like, it's Dvorak.
	He's not normal!
	Nobody in California is normal.
	That's kind of the beauty of it.
	Let's listen to some more from climate expert Governor Jerry Brown.
	The hurricanes are more severe.
	The wildfires are more severe.
	The storm surge is worse because sea levels are rising.
	Talk to me about what we are physically experiencing here in the United States and around the world that proves that everyone who predicted that this would happen is correct.
	Well, I would say...
	I mean...
	She's just saying random things like fires are hotter, rain is wetter, you know, prove to me that everyone who said that this would happen was on the money and right.
	But that's not scientific, what she's saying there.
	We're just experiencing the very early beginnings of climate change.
	The forest fires in California, which are worse than any other time in recorded history, it's really just, unfortunately, it's the beginning.
	But as the carbon builds up, and it builds up very rapidly, you'll have more drought, more fires, more storms, more intense storms, more trouble.
	And the worst part is more migration.
	We're going to have people moving from their land that will no longer produce enough food.
	Yeah, to Austin!
	So the world leaders have got to wake up.
	Now, the exit from the Paris climate agreement isn't official and binding until 2020.
	Did you know that?
	This is news to me.
	I didn't know that the exit isn't official until 2020.
	How does that work?
	I have no idea.
	I don't know what she's talking about, to be honest about it.
	What she's saying is that apparently, and Jerry knows, that's the way she sounds, that pulling out of the climate accord isn't official.
	We haven't actually broken anything, I guess, until we don't pay the bill.
	I think that's what she means.
	It's like, well, in 2020, there's a bill that shows up.
	If we don't pay it, then I guess we're really out.
	Moving from their land that will no longer produce enough food.
	So the world leaders have got to wake up.
	Now, the exit from the Paris climate agreement isn't official and binding until 2020.
	But what is the impact already internationally of the United States having said...
	We're out of it.
	So Trump is an enabler.
	We often hear that term, enabler.
	He's an enabler of climate negligence and climate avoidance.
	So that's what's bad.
	Why can't he say denying?
	Why doesn't he...
	Oh, it's politically incorrect, I guess, in California to say climate denier because that might mean something about Jews.
	I don't know.
	No, that's not true.
	There's some rule in California.
	There's some politically correct rule.
	No, it's just him.
	The guy is a senile.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll take that, too.
	He just can't come up with a word.
	He's like climate...
	He couldn't come up with a word for him to describe Trump.
	There's a million of them.
	He could have said an orange-faced Cheeto head.
	He's an enabler of climate negligence or climate avoidance.
	Well, in my brain, climate negligence.
	No, wait, climate avoidance.
	I know I'll get it right one of these days.
	So that's what's bad about it.
	Because we have to make sure that all these other countries, whether it's Russia or Poland or South America...
	Wait a minute.
	All these other countries, Russia or Poland or South America, what is wrong with him?
	He's going off the rails.
	He's going nuts.
	And climate...
	Jerry Brown, hello.
	So that's what's bad about it.
	Because we have to make sure that all these other countries, whether it's Russia or Poland or South America, Brazil, whatever...
	India, I was going to say, India, India, India.
	Everybody's got to step up.
	And the President of the United States should be the cheerleader, the exemplar.
	And instead, he's the saboteur.
	That's tragic.
	Saboteur.
	He's a saboteur.
	He should be the exemplar.
	This is how elitists talk.
	Who is he trying to connect with?
	He is an exemplar.
	He should be the exemplar, instead he's a saboteur.
	He said he should be an exemplar.
	He should be an exemplar, not a saboteur.
	That's not English.
	Jerry, that's not how you connect with people.
	Exemplar.
	Call him the Cheeto head.
	That seems to work.
	Yeah, the Cheeto head's better.
	Then he goes to what I think is just a pure threat.
	There was a governor.
	How do you feel when the President of the United States says that nearly 3,000 people did not die in Puerto Rico?
	This is my favorite lie from Andrea.
	Instead of saying there's a discrepancy of what people died from, because the people died, everyone agrees that almost 3,000 people died, the question is, since they were the same, a difference of 64 between the previous year, did everyone die because of Maria?
	And that was done through a scientific study by going past houses and saying, hey, did you die because of the hurricane?
	If you go to search.nashownotes, you can find the documents.
	But now it's just become, nobody died.
	It says that nearly 3,000 people did not die in Puerto Rico, even though it was the result of a scientific study, and says that it was a democratic conspiracy to claim all these deaths.
	Well, the problem is we...
	Am I crazy?
	Do I just hear this in a different way than most people?
	What?
	I mean, if you haven't really thought about it and you heard Andrea Mitchell say this, you think that Trump was denying actual dead bodies.
	Yeah.
	But that's what she's saying, yeah.
	Yeah, but that's not the truth.
	No, of course it's not.
	None of this has been the truth.
	In fact, this is all we do is track this sort of thing.
	Sad podcasting.
	Conspiracy to claim all these deaths.
	Well, the problem is we never had a president.
	Hold on, stop.
	There's another new element.
	Okay.
	Did he say it was a conspiracy to claim all these deaths?
	No, Trump claims that it's a conspiracy to claim all these deaths.
	Oh, he never said that?
	No.
	He said it was a democratic conspiracy to claim all these deaths.
	He never said that.
	No.
	No, she's full of crap.
	But you know what?
	They just pump these memes out like there's no tomorrow.
	Yeah, but this is not credible and this is damaging because it's misinformation.
	Well, the problem is we never had a president who is engaged in this kind of behavior.
	I mean, he's not telling the truth.
	He keeps changing his mind.
	He's, you know, sabotaging the world order in many respects.
	So it's unprecedented.
	He's sabotaging the world order in many respects.
	I'd like to know which respects he's talking about.
	Well, in many respects.
	Many of them.
	You know, there's this one, there's that one, the one over there on the wall.
	There's many respects.
	He keeps changing his mind.
	He's, you know, sabotaging the world order in many respects.
	So it's unprecedented.
	It's dangerous.
	And hopefully this election is going to send a strong message to the country.
	The Democrats will win.
	And then Trump, well, something's got to happen to this guy.
	Because if we don't get rid of him, he's going to undermine America and even the world.
	Something's got to happen to this guy if we don't get rid of him.
	What?
	Arrest that man.
	That seems like a threat that the Secret Service should be looking into.
	Arrest that man.
	That's not okay.
	Wow.
	Let's do that again.
	Trump, well, something's got to happen to this guy.
	Because if we don't get rid of him, he's going to undermine America and even the world.
	Something's got to be done.
	Something's got to happen to this guy.
	Listen again.
	Oh, I have to reload it.
	Hold on.
	It went all the way to the end.
	It's the end of the clip.
	There was a governor.
	How do you...
	To the country, the Democrats will win, and then Trump...
	Well, something's got to happen to this guy.
	Something's got to happen to this guy.
	Or something's gotta, or something's gonna.
	The Democrats will win, and then Trump...
	Well, something's got to happen to this guy.
	Something says gotta, gotta, not gonna.
	And it makes sense in context.
	Something's got to happen to this guy.
	The Democrats will win, and then Trump...
	Well, something's got to happen to this guy.
	Because if we don't get rid of him...
	Because if we don't get rid of him...
	He's going to undermine America and even the world.
	He's going to undermine America and even the world.
	He must die.
	This is what the guy is threatening him.
	It's a call for arms.
	I mean, it's a lot more of a call for arms than who was it.
	Alex Jones.
	Alex Jones saying if you got a gun next to your bed, you might have to pick it up.
	All right.
	Unverified Jerry Brown.
	We don't recognize him anymore.
	This is crazy.
	You guys, you got to ISO that.
	I will.
	That's just, that's unhinged, man.
	I don't care who says it about which president.
	That's just unhinged.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
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	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	And we do have a few people to thank for show 1070.
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	Gents, great shows lately, including the interview show that Thanks for the clip of Judge Napolitano where he states that the FISA court approves 99.97% of all warrant requests.
	What a farce.
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	First time donor.
	We're going to meet up this Friday.
	I'm going to see him on Friday.
	Meet up on Friday in Oakland at Drake's 5 to 8.
	Drake's dealership in Oakland on Broadway.
	First time donors do get deduced here.
	You've been dedouched.
	Sorry, mobile rig.
	Dedouching, yes.
	René Labbé in Santa Monica, California, 100.
	Sandy Block, 99.99.
	You need some job karma.
	Put that at the end.
	All right.
	Paul Pacheco, White Salmon, Washington, 8008.
	Boobs.
	Eddie Vesalo, 7513.
	He needs a dedouching.
	He says, for all the craziness that's happening in the UK, especially our leaders negotiating the Brexit terms, God knows how much we need it.
	You've been dedouched.
	$75 from James...
	Gilkeson in York, South Carolina.
	First donation, another dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	So, hello, Tom, for introducing me to the show, he says.
	Sir Rick...
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	The $75 amount is in honor of my mother, Jennifer, who was 75 when she passed recently.
	Keep up the great podcast.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, $69.96.
	Dwight Chick...
	In Burlington, Ontario, Canada, 6789.
	Donald Napier, 1-666.666.6660.
	Yes.
	That's it.
	Joseph Henson in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
	Is it de-douching?
	Is it de-douching first?
	You've been de-douched.
	Vinny says, call out Ryan Anderson as a douchebag.
	All right, he's done.
	Done and done.
	That was Joseph Henson.
	MLM 5528.
	I want to thank my dad, Wes, for always being there with me and my family.
	No, that was Joseph Henson.
	No, I'm sorry, you're right, MLM. I'm sorry, my mistake.
	Just a small spreadsheet.
	Sorry.
	Dean Roker, 5510 in the UK. Scott Fuller in Cumming, Georgia, 5497.
	Jaron Hutinga, I think.
	Hutinga.
	He's actually Sir Geronimo from Greece.
	Oh, yes, from Greece.
	5997.
	That's my birthday, thank you.
	Courtney Vandenberg in Brombachtel, Deutschland.
	Deutschland.
	5497.
	Congratulations, Adam.
	Aaron Lambert in Tumwater, Washington.
	5497 is another one of your congratulations for Adam.
	And the keeper?
	Beth Bradshaw, also in Ladson, South Carolina, also 5497.
	Aaron also needs a jobs comment.
	Put that at the end for you.
	Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri.
	5005.
	Dalet Zanguzin in Bellevue, Washington.
	I hope.
	50.
	These are all $50 donations.
	Name and location.
	Max Meza.
	Michael Rulin in Austin, Texas.
	Scott Lavender in Montgomery.
	Needs a dedouching.
	First time contributor.
	You've been dedouched.
	Yeah.
	And not for me, a big JCD fan from Tech TV and Twit, but only got hit in the mouth a couple months ago.
	Thanks for all you do to keeping me entertained.
	Thank you, Michael, for understanding the system so quickly.
	Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Thomas Dillon in Laverne, California.
	George Wichet, maybe, in Universal City, Texas.
	There's a Universal City in Texas.
	Andrew Guzik in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	Eric Maki in Lawrenceville, Georgia.
	And last but not least, Joel, I think it's Sir Joel Daroon in Savannah, Georgia.
	I want to thank all these folks for helping us out on the show 1070.
	Yes, and I think there was another job.
	Oh, Relationship Karma for Max Meza.
	So we have that.
	And I also got an Emergency Night Jobs Karma.
	As you know, if you're in the peerage, we do break for our nights and other members of peerage.
	Adam in the morning here from the Black Hills of South Dakota.
	I donated last Thursday to try to obtain Jobs Karma and continue necessary contributions to the podcast.
	I didn't hear the jingle on Thursday.
	It may have happened during the closing of the show, and as you notice, some people had 33 minutes missing or 31 point something, close to 33 minutes.
	That was a glitch, of course.
	I hate to be a bother, but I really need this job I recently interviewed for last Thursday.
	It's currently deciding on hire.
	That's an interesting term.
	It's currently...
	Oh, okay.
	So I guess the firm is deciding on hire, on hiring.
	Please grant some job karma.
	I hope then I can write back with another great story of any karma.
	Whichever way it may work.
	Regardless of the job, I continue to support whenever possible and really do appreciate all the work that goes into the show, the content production.
	Episode one, listener and night, Sir Stone.
	So yes, of course, for everybody, we have quite a little combo here.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Thank you all very much.
	Everybody who also donated under $50 for reasons of anonymity or you're on one of our many programs.
	We have the $33 a month, the $11.11, the $12.12.
	We've got some $4s, all kinds of things.
	Go to our donation page at dvorak.org slash NA.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so much.
	Out of habit, I hit the birthday jingle and we have no birthdays for today.
	Happy birthday, nobody, from the No Agenda Show.
	That was a fail.
	We do, however, have a night, a one-nighting, so if you can grab your best blade for...
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Yeah, guys, over here on the right side of the room!
	Uh, okay.
	I got it.
	My goodness.
	All right, let me get mine.
	Yeah, I got it.
	We're all set now.
	Hey, Gene Witch, come on up on the podium here.
	The guys are Gene Witch.
	That's right.
	You have supported the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	We are eternally grateful for that.
	And, of course, we have a coveted spot for you here at the night of the No Agenda Dames and the Knights, the roundtable.
	And I hereby pronounce the KV... Sir Genewitch, Knights of the Noah General Roundtable for you.
	Of course, we have the Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay.
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	Eric the Shill will be happy to provide you with everything once you give him your ring size.
	Nice little set of things you've got going on there.
	So this little guy is a kid's toy.
	It's actually not for me.
	Unlike all the other stuff?
	Hey, listen to this.
	I got some feedback I want to share.
	Because you've got to stop the noisemakers.
	Okay.
	On Sweden.
	So, you know, because we've been tracking what went on with Sweden, with the election.
	We've been listening to these guys with a deconstructive podcast, which, you know, we like.
	We like what they're saying.
	They taught us about the 16,000 carb-Qs a year.
	And so we got a little pushback from Emil.
	But I want to share what he said.
	He says, as a Swede, I have some thoughts about the comments on the previous shows.
	First of all, the guys...
	You guys have taught me a lot about how to think about the news and the media.
	The podcast guys you played from Sweden have a lot of good points, but you have to realize they are a bit Alex Jones.
	Actually, he says Alex Jones, which is kind of funny.
	But I think we kind of realize that, or at least we were open to the idea that they were pretty radical, certainly for Sweden.
	He says, the shithole country.
	Yeah, guy is buying into the doom and some gloom scenario.
	He says, yes, Swedish Democrats are more or less a cross between the moderate and the social Democrats.
	The only thing is they are harder on the immigration question.
	But in the months running up to the election, the social Democrat party became a little more mainstream.
	And then the S&M party, they have an S&M party?
	Yeah.
	I was not aware of this.
	This sounds like a fun party.
	The S&M party started to say that they would go towards less immigration.
	If you look at Sweden with the no agenda lens, yeah, we're a shithole country and shithole Europe and the shithole world.
	We do have a party called the Liberals and they are afraid of Russian intervention and want us to join NATO and the New World Order police.
	By the way, I work at Volvo.
	We still do make great cars.
	Ha!
	I think that may have been the issue all along.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, you were insulting.
	Well, I wasn't insulting.
	That wasn't me.
	No, that was one of our producers wrote that in.
	Not me.
	Oh, okay.
	I didn't insult him about the Volvos.
	I've been looking at Volvos.
	You said something like, oh, yeah, that's a really cool car if you're over 50.
	I did not say that.
	Did not.
	Somebody did.
	No, I didn't say that.
	No, our producer said that they don't come with a temperature gauge anymore or a dipstick.
	Well, that's most cars.
	Well, that's not true.
	My car does.
	It's a Lexus, but it's pretty old.
	But it's still a modern Lexus with a hot V8. Yeah, baby.
	Hot V8. Ah, yeah.
	I want to talk about your Lexus in a minute.
	But first, to finish this up, we were shocked.
	I mean, just shocked to hear that dental is not free in Sweden.
	I mean, this is not what we've been told.
	And guess what?
	No dental in Denmark either.
	Oh, wow.
	And 75% of the bill for glasses and eye care is also private.
	What?
	Isn't this the super cool Denmark, Sweden, Scandinavia, everything's free, high taxes?
	Yeah, everything's free.
	No!
	It's not true.
	What are they doing with all their money?
	Spending it on their teeth.
	They usually have good teeth.
	You're talking about the tax money.
	Oh.
	What are they doing with the tax money?
	Hey, I don't know.
	So, let me see, where is this?
	Yes.
	BBC World Service.
	Now, your 20-year-old Lexus, you know, it's older than that by now, isn't it?
	How old is that thing?
	25 years old.
	I can almost get an antique, California antique plate.
	Well, let me tell you, you want to hang on to this, because I think that, now, you know I'm from the future, and I'll move into a little bit of OTG here.
	By the way, I must say, That I have discovered in Europe, having an OTG phone, and usually a small, classy looking one, is seen as a...
	What's the word I'm looking for?
	Cool!
	No, no, no.
	It's seen as a display of success.
	You've made it.
	You don't have this.
	You have just a phone for important people calling you, maybe a text message.
	That's it.
	Oh, so you're not just hanging on the phone all the time like some loser.
	Yes, it is seen as a display of success.
	I'm liking this.
	And it makes sense because I'm so disappointed.
	It came out probably the day we left.
	This company, PUNKT, in Switzerland, came out with the MPO2. It's a minimalist phone.
	It just does calling.
	You can do text messaging.
	It's beautifully designed.
	It has calendar, notepad, alarm.
	And then one thing.
	It is an LTE hotspot.
	So you have everything you need.
	You text for important texts.
	You've got your calling features, you know, if you need a reminder, calendar, and probably not connected calendar, and an alarm.
	And then, you know, you have your laptop, if you need it, or your tablet, or your Surface Go.
	And then, pop, pop, pop, pop, turn it into a hotspot.
	That portrays success.
	How do you spell this?
	Punk'd?
	Punk'd, yeah.
	Papa Uniform November Kilo Tango.
	I think it's a very pretty phone.
	Designer consumers, punk, top-rated cordless phones.
	It's a cordless phone.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, here it is.
	What do you call it, the MP02? Yeah, that's the one.
	Okay, I'm looking at it now.
	What do you think?
	I think it looks pretty stylish.
	It's going to be launching the design festival.
	It's just new.
	It just came out.
	It's coming out in London at the design festival.
	$349.
	Pre-order is available now.
	See, I told you, pre-orders.
	I think it says the Kaya series is a better deal.
	Well, for me, but I don't know.
	I mean, I like the idea of just a hot spot.
	But doesn't the Kyocera provide a hotspot?
	Yes, but because it's an unlocked GSM AT&T phone, the hotspot feature, I can't get it to work.
	I think there's something hard-coded in there.
	Yeah, I know.
	Sucks.
	Someone from Kyocera listening to this podcast should help us.
	Please, because I really like the phone.
	So here, they're like, wow, Curry's really made it.
	Look at that phone.
	I'm not kidding.
	I'm not kidding.
	Yeah, I'm sure you're not kidding.
	It's the world's upside down.
	No, man.
	I'm just, I picked the hits, baby.
	So back to the car.
	So I think there's going, so this is my whole point.
	I'm from the future.
	There's going to be a fantastic, we have to either get Lexis, which I think is the pull of Lexus, or we need to get Volkswagen Bugs or something, but people are going to want cars that are not like the ones that the BBC World Service is talking about being created in Europe.
	Media giants dominate our lives at home and at work.
	Now they're encroaching on the connectedness we all appear to love on the roads.
	Google is to partner with Renault, Nissan, Mitsubishi, which is the largest auto alliance in the world in terms of sales, to put Android-based systems into millions of cars.
	Peter Campbell is the Financial Times newspaper's motor industry correspondent.
	Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi together are the world's largest car maker.
	They made just over 10 million vehicles last year, sold all over the world.
	And for them to start installing Google technology in their cars means that their consumers will be able to use more Google functions in future.
	They'll be able to activate certain parts of the car using their voice.
	They'll be able to use Google Maps.
	That helps Renault, Nissan, Mitsubishi hopefully sell more vehicles because people want to buy them because they've got this connected technology.
	But also it helps Google get more people using its systems.
	So for both the manufacturer and for Google here, it's seen as a win-win deal.
	Tell us about the technology that we're talking about here.
	What's it going to be able to do?
	What we do know is they're going to be Google's voice assistants.
	So what you currently find on its Pixel phones or its home systems will go into the cars.
	That means you can activate certain parts of the car using your voice.
	You can probably turn the music up or down.
	You can activate the air conditioning, maybe open the sunroof.
	And in future, they'll start building other functions using Google's technology as well to put into the car.
	There'll also be new apps that can be developed to be used in the car.
	The ultimate aim in this is that people can still have the same level of connectivity while driving that they have while walking around with their mobile phone.
	Because what people hate most of all when they're used to using their mobile phone almost all the time is to feel like they're being unplugged when they're driving.
	Is what we're talking about a race with...
	Seriously?
	You know what, John?
	I think it's true.
	I think it's true.
	You think the epidemic of cell phone mania and just this disorder of people walking around looking at their phones?
	Oh my god, go to a couple of airports, go to the train station, just walk on the street.
	The zombies are among us.
	It's very, very, very bad.
	We've become the ultimate wetware now.
	Oh, we've got to stay just as connected when you're in the car.
	To me, it's no different from the Matrix.
	You know, the thing goes in the back of your neck.
	You're connected.
	Because what people hate most of all when they're used to using their mobile phone almost all the time is to feel like they're being unplugged when they're driving.
	And they even use the same terminology.
	Is what we're talking about a race within the industry as well?
	Because there are other manufacturers who are doing similar things.
	Ford and VW. Yes, that's absolutely right.
	Lots of manufacturers are trying to install connected features in their vehicles.
	I mean, increasingly, people aren't buying cars on the basis of horsepower or performance or anything else.
	What they want is a car that makes them feel as connected as possible.
	And so Renault, Nissan, Mitsubishi want 90% of all their vehicles to be connected to the Internet by 2022.
	And a lot of other companies have similar ambitions.
	Ford is working with Amazon's Electra to install that in all of its new cars as well.
	Oh, no.
	This has to stop.
	There has to be...
	We're going to have reverse...
	The Alexa in the car?
	Yes.
	Oh, brother.
	We need to have, like, reverse options.
	Take that out.
	But you know they won't let you.
	You know they won't let you.
	Thank goodness the BBC, during this clear automobile advertisement, at least put some journalistic integrity into it and said, Hey, does anyone mind?
	Yes.
	When you talk to people in the industry, do you get a sense that they are picking up at all on any anxiety in terms of the dominance of Amazon and Google?
	Anxiety on the dominance of Amazon and Google?
	Any anxiety?
	Yeah, it's creepy, lady!
	Anxiety in terms of the dominance of Amazon and Google.
	You know, we are now connected in our homes, in our workplaces, and now in our cars.
	Well, there are two very real considerations that come from this.
	One is around data.
	People are naturally cautious about what happens to their data.
	No, they're not.
	And then there's also the consideration of hacking and cybersecurity.
	They're not.
	That opens a huge number of attack possibilities for people trying to get into the vehicles.
	So a lot of the considerations around installing new technology also have to take that into account.
	And that's certainly an area that the car industry itself is not used to dealing with.
	I am the voice of Professor Ted.
	This will not end well.
	That's terrible.
	But that's what people want.
	I think a lot of people do want exactly what he said.
	They love the Alexis.
	They might as well have it in the car.
	Alexis and Alexis.
	So I think there will be a demand, medium term, for cars that just never had this crap built into it in the first place.
	Well, I think there's a demand for cars that don't have the black box.
	Yes.
	Well, all of this stuff.
	And I believe there's...
	There's a black box.
	I'm going to do my spiel.
	I do it once every couple of years.
	Yeah, do your spiel.
	Do your spiel.
	Spiel away.
	The black box, which is in the car, to see, you know, they bring it out once.
	Oh, you got into an accident.
	We found the black box.
	The guy was speeding.
	One of these days, when the tax revenues start to dry up, and it could start to dry up at any point, It's drying up now in a lot of places.
	They're going to take, and they're going to, especially in California where they really do the best to gouge everyone.
	When you go in to get your smog check, you're going to up the ante, and they're going to look at the black box and say, and they'll go to a computer.
	It'll analyze your driving habits and everything you've been doing.
	It'll find the places you've been speeding and The places you went through a red light, everything.
	And they're going to give you a bunch of tickets after the fact.
	You'll get a packet full of tickets for all the mistakes you made, all the times you were speeding, all the times you were doing anything.
	And then you also need to pay $100 to get your smog thing checked.
	And that's the future, it seems to be.
	That's the only reason you have all these gizmos in the car.
	It's a way to tax you.
	You know, posthumously speeding.
	And an element of these predictions, which we have made over the course of many years in this program, has come true from Reuters.
	I share with you the article from September 19th.
	John Hancock, one of the oldest and largest North American life insurers, will stop underwriting traditional life insurance and instead sell only interactive policies that track fitness and health data through wearable devices and smartphones.
	This is a 156-year-old insurance company, and they are now...
	Let me see, I have a quote here somewhere.
	Uh...
	Policyholders score premium discounts for hitting exercise targets tracked on wearable devices such as Fitbit or Apple Watch and get gift cards for retail stores and other perks by logging their workouts and healthy food purchases in an app.
	This is what we call wetware, the CEO said.
	Oh, I'm sorry, I made that up.
	Not really.
	In theory, everybody wins, as policyholders are incentivized to adopt healthy habits and insurance companies collect more premiums and pay less in claims if customers live longer.
	And of course, as the obligatory, privacy and consumer advocates and podcasters have raised questions about whether insurers may eventually use data to select the most profitable customers, while hiking rates for those who do not participate.
	I'm shocked someone would think that.
	The insurance industry has said it is heavily regulated and must justify in actuarial terms its reasons for any rate increases or policy changes.
	We know that Volkswagen wasn't fudging around with their data, with their little limiters there when they were testing for their emissions.
	No, this never happens.
	So they are, let's see, they will be, it's too early for John Hancock to determine if it's paying fewer claims because of its vitality program.
	This is what it's called.
	They're calling it the vitality program.
	Customers do not have to log their activities to get coverage, even though their policies are packaged with the vitality program.
	The insurer will begin converting existing life insurance policies to vitality in 2019.
	So there's no getting away from it.
	You need to be tracked.
	And no coincidence, we get the brand new Apple Watch coming out.
	And CNBC did a review, and I just got the piece that was most relevant.
	I'm sorry, you are becoming an actual Borg with this device.
	The larger screens allow you to see more through what Apple calls complications.
	I love this new speak, too.
	Yes, we call them complications.
	Basically, it's a little piece of an app that runs on the watch face, and they have to call it a complication?
	Why is that?
	You're asking me?
	Yeah, I'm asking you.
	I mean, the word complicates a very odd choice of name.
	I don't know anyone who's analyzed it yet.
	Of course not.
	The larger screens allow you to see more through what Apple calls complications, or the apps that run on each watch face.
	That means you can see the weather, the battery life, create a workout, see your heart rate, see the UV index, and more, all from a single watch face.
	It's really cool.
	Yeah!
	Cool!
	It's really cool!
	All this stuff.
	It's really cool, man.
	It's really cool.
	I can see all these things on the watch face.
	So cool.
	The larger screens also make reading text, looking at photos and more much easier.
	And despite the larger screen size, it didn't feel bulkier on my wrist.
	Stop!
	What?
	He says looking at photos, it makes it easier to look at photos?
	Yes.
	How's it easy to look at a photo with that thing?
	In other words, your idea of a photo is one inch by one inch?
	Oh, it's bigger than that.
	The screen is much bigger than one inch by one inch.
	Those are just the thumbnails.
	He told you in the beginning, the thing is four inches.
	I don't know.
	It's like a four inch.
	It's not four inches.
	The thing would be like you use it as a club.
	Hey, look, we all laughed about the iPad as a big phone, okay?
	People will wear anything from Apple on their wrist as long as it tracks them and shows them cool.
	You want to see my photos?
	Look at my photos.
	Look at my photos.
	You have to see this video because you see, like, a thumbnail grid of six different photos.
	Oh, brother!
	Hold it up to his face like this.
	Look how cool.
	It's really cool.
	It's easier to look at photos.
	And meanwhile, you're holding your wrist up the whole time.
	It's very tiring to do this for a long while.
	All right, let's continue.
	Despite the larger screen size, it didn't feel bulkier on my wrist when I was wearing it throughout the day or while working out.
	I have so many lewd thoughts about what he just said.
	The speakers are also louder, so when you ask Siri a question, you can hear it better.
	Hey Siri, who won the New York Jets game last night?
	Oh, that's so important.
	He's standing in his office and he holds up and he talks to his watch.
	Hey, Siri, who won the Jets game last night?
	It's really, it's, I mean, this is sad.
	If people are really buying into this, it's just sad.
	And Apple moved the microphone so when you place a phone call...
	You can hear every, we can hear you better now through Apple's watch.
	We moved the microphone to a better spot.
	It's easier for the recipient to hear you.
	Apple sent me the Series 4 model with cellular connectivity and GPS. This is what we need.
	We need you to wear this watch.
	It has cellular connectivity and GPS. But it's just for your benefit.
	Honest engine!
	Which means I had a data connection even when my phone wasn't around.
	Nice!
	That let me listen to podcasts, send messages, call people, even through music.
	Oh, wait, man.
	There's much more.
	There's much more, man.
	Wait!
	all when my phone was left at home.
	Apple made another improvement.
	The cellular connectivity is better because it switched to ceramic, which allows for the signal to travel to the watch easier even when you're wearing it.
	So we'll know your location even if we don't have a GPS signal.
	The Apple Watch Series 4 also runs WatchOS 5, Apple's new watch software, which is coming to older devices as well.
	WatchOS 5 can automatically detect when you start some workouts.
	It can automatically detect when you start a workout or, you know, workout, wink, wink.
	So if you go to the gym and jump on the elliptical, it might automatically recognize that you're starting to move.
	This is not creepy.
	Speaking of workouts, I'm always trying to earn badges on the Apple Watch.
	And now you can have seven-day competitions against friends.
	Yeah, now you're talking.
	Get the robots playing against each other.
	Rock'em, sock'em, robot.
	I wasn't able to test this because I don't have any friends with a new Apple Watch.
	Don't worry, you don't have any friends, loser.
	Of course.
	I shouldn't have any friends if you're doing this report.
	But I'm looking forward to trying it.
	The Apple Watch Series 4 also has automatic slip and fall detection, which means if you slip or fall, it'll automatically contact emergency services if you don't say that you're okay.
	Okay, let's just review.
	So if you slip or fall, your watch is going to say, hey, are you all right?
	And if you don't respond, it will call 911.
	I mean, this is robot maintenance.
	This is ridiculous.
	This is a new Apple Watch for the software, but I'm looking forward to trying it.
	The Apple Watch Series 4 also has automatic slip and fall detection, which means if you slip or fall, it'll automatically contact emergency services if you don't say that you're okay.
	Finally, there's a new EKG, or electrocardiogram, that exists in the digital crown.
	It's not available yet, and Apple's going to activate it later this year with a software update.
	But when it is active, you can touch the crown and get a full EKG that you can download through a PDF and send to your doctor.
	If you are wearing this device, you are insane.
	No way, man.
	There's tons of people at work.
	Okay, the screen is 1.57 by 1.78 inches.
	That's pretty big.
	Well, it's an inch and a half by an inch and a half, roughly.
	An inch and a half by an inch and three quarters.
	It's, you know, I guess you could look at a photo.
	I don't know what kind of details you could see.
	It's not the way I want to look at my photos on a little watch.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Okay.
	They just got these guys.
	These people are idiots.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	And a lot of people wear the watch because it's prestigious.
	Look what I got.
	I got the new Apple Series 4 watch.
	I will say I saw a lot of Apple watches on our trip.
	A lot.
	A lot of Apple watches.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	And Windows.
	Windows phones.
	Not at the same time.
	That was Italy.
	Yeah.
	There's not much you can do.
	It's the end of the world as we know it.
	As the song goes.
	That's not true.
	Hey, did you see what Google is doing?
	What they're talking about talking now?
	What they're talking about doing in the browser in Chrome?
	No.
	They want to completely hide...
	Parts of the URL. So now, you know, if it's www, they'll remove that.
	Oh, yeah.
	They want to get rid of www.
	You know what this is.
	It's part of the takeover of the web.
	Yeah.
	And eventually, I know what they want.
	They want to go to keywords.
	They're bringing us right back to AOL. Yeah.
	They should buy AOL. I bet you Verizon will sell it to them cheap.
	Oh, auth, whoever bought it.
	But people, are they blind?
	It would be very bad if the trend becomes, let's hide the URL. And it's also insulting.
	You're too stupid.
	You get fooled by little misspellings, you stupid, stupid, stupid, dumb person.
	Maybe I'm reading a little bit too much into it, but that's how I do feel.
	Well, talking about stupid, stupid, dumb persons.
	So I guess Hillary upgraded her book to the new massively fantastic segues on this show.
	You nailed it right there, my friend.
	Her new paperback version of her book is out, so she's on the tour.
	She went on Rachel Maddow's show.
	Nice.
	After the lesbian show, she went on Rachel Maddow.
	Okay.
	So she goes on Rachel Maddow and she talks about that.
	And there's two things that were interesting.
	Now, somebody sent me this clip or a link to the clip.
	Because apparently Rachel or Hillary said, finger in the dike.
	Very funny.
	People acknowledge that as okay.
	That wasn't the reason I clipped it, though.
	Because I, yeah, okay, it wasn't just kind of Beavis and Budhead type thing.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This is interesting.
	She's added a couple of interesting things.
	Let's start with this one.
	This is Hillary on Maddow and the firing comments.
	Because I don't think that those people really fully appreciate what is potentially possible under this presidency.
	What I worry about, Rachel, is that after this election, this president's going to wholesale fire people.
	That's my prediction for tonight, like my prediction from last year.
	And if we don't have one or both houses of Congress in place, he will be even more uncontrollable and unaccountable.
	He will fire people in the White House.
	He will fire people in his administration who he thinks are crossing him, questioning him, undermining him.
	And I think about all of the hours I spent in the Situation Room with President Obama.
	And we had vigorous disagreements about all kinds of issues.
	But I never, ever, ever doubted that the President was making the best decision he could based on the facts and the evidence as we were required to present it to him.
	A couple of things.
	Just like a new thing in the rotation.
	I've heard it before.
	He's going to fire everybody because he's gone paranoid after that anonymous thing in the New York Times.
	That's what you do when you're a dictator driven into a corner.
	Yeah.
	Hitler.
	But the way she presents this about her calm demeanor and about when she was in the room there with Obama.
	Oh, yeah, man.
	Cool as a cue.
	She's running for president again in 2020, people.
	You Democrats get used to this.
	I wanted to mention...
	That we had that whole lesbians who do tech conference, that whole half hour interview.
	Now, the question that wasn't asked, which I think is something anyone would have come up with, hey, are you planning on running?
	Didn't ask.
	Maybe off the table.
	As a question?
	Yeah.
	Possible.
	Possible.
	But here's the one.
	This is the little tidbit she's got going on here.
	And this is an eye roller.
	And this harkens back to pretty much every president.
	Nixon was going to do this.
	And Bush was going to do this.
	And Obama was going to do this.
	Everybody was going to do this.
	And apparently it plays well to come up with this bull crap and frighten the public.
	And God, what are we going to do?
	Your prediction is going to happen after the election, the president wholesale firing people.
	I should say, one of the other things that is in the book is a very troubling discussion and prospect that you raised that in 2020, President Trump will reject the results of the election or even try to postpone the election.
	Your treatment of that gives me the willies now, even referring to it, but I will leave it to people to read the book to see what you had to say about that.
	Thank you for coming in.
	I know you have every option of where to go, and I really appreciate you being here.
	Thanks.
	Enjoyed it.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Thanks.
	All right.
	We'll be right back.
	Stay with us.
	That gives me the willies?
	She's got the willies because she knows this is possible that that crazy maniac Trump, he's going to negate when the elections come through.
	He's going to say, this is, God, I'm staying in here as president.
	I mean, this is the lamest fear that the public's ever had about any of these presidents.
	And they feel this way about every one of them.
	But apparently Trump is just very believable.
	The Democratic Party is pushing another trial balloon in Texas than I think was pretty evidenced by CNN's report of Beto.
	Have you been following the Beto?
	A little bit, but not as much as that would give me a clip, so no.
	I'll say no.
	Well, the Beto...
	First of all, the Beto...
	I was corrected by the former New York banker who was at some fundraiser for him.
	I said, Beto, how's that Beto O'Rourke guy doing you got on the sign in your yard?
	He says, Beto.
	His name is Robert Francis.
	His nickname is Beto.
	Huh.
	Because when you hear Beto, I'm honestly, kind of like Ted Cruz, I'm like, oh, maybe he's got some Latin in him or something.
	But he's really, he's a white guy.
	He's very, very white.
	Can people get just, is he a Democrat or Republican?
	Democrat.
	Oh, huge Democrat.
	Yeah.
	Can he just print something with the same color and put a P where the B is?
	It's hard to believe a Democratic Senate candidate in Texas can turn out more than a thousand people to a rockin' lunchtime rally.
	But Beto O'Rourke has this sea of sweaty voters energized.
	We are going to do this.
	Polls show O'Rourke within striking distance of Republican Senator Ted Cruz.
	Beto has reached peak savior status among Texas Democrats.
	Peak, peak savior status, John.
	People are really, really yearning for something like this.
	She is an ultimate, extreme Beto supporter.
	I'm the Wonder Woman for Beto.
	We are making this happen.
	Even the Beto faithful admit winning this race is still the longest of long shots.
	But they hear the distant echoes of Obama's 2008 hope and change campaign.
	Just before he went on stage for his third rally of this day, O'Rourke told us he doesn't feel the pressure to save Democrats.
	We just all get that this is the election of our lifetimes.
	Everything's on the line.
	Stakes could not be any higher.
	And we're meeting the moment.
	Meeting the moment.
	Luke doesn't shy away from pushing a progressive agenda in this red state.
	He talks of improving education, immigration reform, providing universal health care, criminal justice reform.
	And they're frustrated, frankly, with people like me.
	And a recent speech supporting NFL players who kneel for the national anthem went viral, catching the attention of celebrities and athletes around the country.
	And I can think of nothing more American than to peacefully stand up or take a knee...
	Something is happening on this campaign trail.
	But then again, Texas Democrats have been here before.
	They've seen a few Democratic stars burn brightly in elections past, raising the hopes of a blue wave.
	Then election days turn those stars into dust.
	Will the same story repeat itself this year?
	Oh my god, I don't know.
	I hope not.
	Beto.
	Richard Francis.
	Robert Francis.
	Robert Francis.
	Where's the Beto name come from?
	I don't know.
	Let me see if it says.
	I mean, consult the book of knowledge.
	Let me see.
	Robert Francis Beto O'Rourke, born September 26, 72, an American politician, native of El Paso, United States House of Representatives in 2012.
	No, it doesn't say.
	Oh, here we go.
	Maybe I was wrong.
	He was nicknamed Beto, which is a common Spanish nickname for Roberto.
	His name is Robert.
	Well, before kindergarten, his father was a...
	Oh, there was his father...
	I don't know.
	Beto.
	Let's just call him Beto.
	He's fine.
	He looks like a wrestler.
	I think, considering that CNN report, I think they're trying to see if he catches anything.
	The crowds look pretty big.
	It might be up for something.
	It might be the next presidential candidate in 2020.
	If he can win Texas, that's always something the Democrats always do well.
	They had Lyndon Baines Johnson, a senator from Texas, and he went right to the presidency.
	He had to shoot the president, but he went right to it.
	Hey, that's how we roll in Texas.
	Yeah, it works.
	Man.
	Beto.
	So Bono, Bono, Bono, Bono.
	What is he doing now?
	He's with the Pope and he's talking, he's having a meeting with the Pope because he's concerned about the pedophiles.
	Bono and Popo, yeah.
	I have a clip.
	U2 frontman Bruno says he discussed church abuse scandals with Pope Francis during a meeting at the Vatican on Wednesday.
	The Irish rock star said he could see the pain in the Pope's face when they discussed abuse by priests in Ireland.
	It comes as more Catholic dioceses in the United States are grappling with their own issues.
	The diocese of Brooklyn, New York agreed Tuesday to pay more than 20.
	Hold on.
	I just got to stop this for a second.
	That's some pretty outstanding...
	I do not like Bono.
	I've had my clashes with Bono.
	I think he's arrogant.
	He's just douchey.
	He doesn't pay taxes anywhere.
	He's a scam.
	But, a lot of people love him.
	But still, you know, Mark Zuckerberg can't call the Pope and say, Yo, Popo, listen up.
	I gotta come talk to you about the Pato stuff, man.
	No.
	You can't see Zuckerberg do that.
	Who's gonna do that?
	Bono is the only...
	He can do that?
	You call the Pope and...
	I think Gates could do it.
	Gates?
	Oh, you're right.
	Gates could do it.
	But who else?
	I mean, but Bono's no Gates.
	It's a very different kind of person.
	He's a 60-year-old guy with the earrings and the shades, and he draws huge audiences.
	I think what's-her-name could do it.
	Yeah, what's-her-name?
	Brad Pitt's ex-wife.
	Oh, Angelina.
	Yeah, she could call.
	He's like, hey, Angelina can come by any time.
	So is Bono, is it a PR move?
	Is he trying to do an old Pope joke?
	I won't tell.
	That's fine.
	People who just collect punchlines wouldn't recognize the joke.
	Do you think that Bono has something going on?
	Like an Al Sharpton type deal?
	Where, hey man, I can straighten you up.
	I got some PR value.
	What is he doing?
	What's the point?
	What's the point?
	Is it a summit?
	Summit.
	We need a summit.
	I just don't understand.
	A pedo summit.
	And all we get out of, the only information we get is, hey, talk to the Pope about the, you know, about the abuse thing.
	Well, thanks.
	Can we have a little, can Bono do a press conference and tell us what he heard?
	Can someone go talk to Bono?
	As he's in the...
	Do we just all assume, as slaves of Gitmo Nation, all is well, Bono's on the case.
	Yeah.
	...used by priests in Ireland.
	It comes as more Catholic dioceses in the United States are grappling with their own issues.
	The Diocese of Brooklyn, New York, agreed Tuesday to pay more than $27 million to four men who say they were sexually abused as boys by their religion teacher.
	It is believed to be one of the largest settlements granted to individual victims of abuse in the church.
	And the Archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Donald Whirl, says he will discuss his potential resignation with Pope Francis after a Pennsylvania grand jury report said he did not do enough to deal with pedophile priests when he was in charge of the Diocese of Pittsburgh.
	What a mess.
	Why are all those people so concerned about, you know, Pizzagate?
	I don't know.
	That's a good question.
	I always hate that.
	You don't give a shit about...
	I'm sorry.
	You don't...
	Tourette's.
	It's late here.
	You're talking to me?
	No, no, not you.
	No, the people who are...
	What, you're talking to me?
	I'm not talking to you.
	I ain't talking...
	I'm talking to the people.
	We're the one of the Pizzagators.
	They're like, oh, Pizzagator, Pizzagator, eating children, blah, blah, blah.
	Yeah, but when it comes to actual victims, you don't show up.
	There's no protest, there's no Reddit for it.
	Well, there is, but you know what I mean.
	There's a Reddit for everything.
	Alright.
	Yes.
	I found a clip backing your basic thesis up, which you haven't really expressed recently.
	Uh-oh.
	But I know it's one of these things in your craw.
	And the thing is in your craw is, there's a couple of comics.
	I hate to bring comics guys into this thing, but Most of the podcasters out there are comedians, and you consider this show a comedy show.
	I think all comedians owe me a debt of gratitude.
	They do, but they're not going to even give you a comp.
	Anyway, so there is a...
	You have this theory, and you go on and on and on about it, because you always used to get gold.
	I stopped bringing these clips to the fore.
	Because it would be like John Oliver with some commentator.
	I don't understand.
	The guy's British.
	He comes over here and he starts telling us what to do.
	Well, this comedian who you'd probably enjoy because he's a sardonic and a bit off the rails, Bill Burr.
	Oh, sure.
	I know Bill Burr.
	Sure.
	I mean, I know his work.
	Bill Burr is on a new show that's a show with Jeff Jeffries, who is an Australian.
	And they bring it around to the point and Burr reiterates your exact thoughts on this.
	It's like, wow, my career.
	Oh, there he is.
	There he is.
	Alright, so Bill, thank you for being on the show.
	Thank you for having me.
	This is arguably a news show.
	Okay.
	Where do you find your news?
	That's a new thing, though.
	Americans like to get it from somebody with an accent.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Right, what was going on here in Tennessee?
	And he's like, oh, this guy knows what he's talking about.
	He's from Europe.
	It's like, no, he's Australian.
	That's the whole thing.
	Trevor Noah is South African, and then John Oliver is British.
	Samantha Bee is Canadian.
	I'm obviously Australian.
	White foreigners.
	White guys with accents.
	That's what it is.
	Who evidently come from these perfect countries and just shit all over ours.
	Australia's had no social issues ever.
	In a nutshell.
	Oh, man.
	It's your exact attitude.
	Yeah.
	What are they doing over here?
	I'm kind of in agreement.
	Ruining our award shows.
	Damn it.
	All right, good.
	I'm going to end it on that high, John.
	I think that's the way to go.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So I fly back Saturday.
	We'll have the show right after Saturday, which, as you know, is twice a week on Thursdays.
	Yes.
	Yes, something like that.
	And you have sounded so good on this new gigabit connection you have.
	Yeah, wait until it talks to your gigabit over there.
	We'll see.
	No, we've already done it on the gigabit to gigabit.
	Our gigas have interfaced before.
	I don't remember that, but okay.
	As far as I can insert, you've been in Europe for the last month.
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