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	Machine guns in space!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, June 21st, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1044.
	This is No Agenda.
	Watching the Druids at Stonehenge and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State, here in downtown Austin, Tejas, in the Cludio.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where guess what?
	I found my Thorin's turntable.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	It's one of those things that it's just not that easy to misplace, you would think.
	The thing weighs a ton.
	That's what I'm saying.
	It's a turntable.
	What was it?
	Clothing piled on top of it?
	No, it was stuffed in an obscure closet that's never used by someone cleaning up one day.
	Someone.
	Yeah.
	She who shall not be named.
	That's definitely a she.
	Mm-hmm.
	And there it was.
	I'm so happy.
	And I've been looking for it because I've been collecting, not to an extreme, I'm not like nuts, But I've been collecting, for the archives, some 78s.
	If I see, for example...
	Oh, nice.
	What I like to collect is albums.
	I like to collect 78 albums, which are a big, giant...
	It's not a box, but it's just kind of this weird...
	It usually has about eight records, maybe more, inside.
	And they're for Broadway show tunes.
	Oh, nice.
	Because you get to collect stuff from the 20s and 30s that never got re-released.
	They just do the show again, and that's the album that comes out.
	So you don't get to hear the original stuff from the 30s especially.
	But I can't play any of these things because I haven't got a turntable that...
	They can do it.
	78.
	So the Thorns does, but the Thorns also has four speeds.
	Oh, is it 16?
	Yes.
	I happened to have a bunch of...
	I collected...
	I collected a bunch of 16 RPM hypnosis records.
	You realize there's a whole bunch of people who are listening to this program now and are saying, 16?
	78?
	What?
	What are these esoteric numbers?
	Most people don't know what I'm talking about.
	Originally, records came out at 78 RPM. And then, of course, we've developed the 33 and the 30, 45 formats, which dominate.
	Now they don't dominate at all because everything's a CD, but...
	Hey, why were they 78 RPM? I mean, it's not like the technology to slow it down was that hard, but why did they start with such a high RPM to start with?
	They couldn't get the fidelity up high enough.
	Ah, okay.
	I mean, it's just the nature of it.
	It's like a bandwidth.
	Because they had to do mechanical recording.
	Yeah, it's a bandwidth issue, basically.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	16 is more or less the 96 kilo or 48 kilo, you know, the real low.
	No, no.
	No, no.
	That's the flack.
	It's the flack of the analog world.
	16 is not the flack because it's very lossy.
	Oh, okay.
	And it's only voice.
	It's only voice.
	So you have these...
	I've never heard any of these records.
	Oh, no.
	I know what it is.
	It's the GP3. Remember that format?
	The cell phone format?
	Yeah, I think it was GP3. Like GSM something.
	Anyway.
	Oh, no.
	But anyway, it's very...
	Compressed.
	And so there you have it.
	End of story.
	I have one experience with 78 records, which I'll tell briefly.
	My parents had a whole stack of them, not in jackets, just stacked on top of each other.
	And I think I've talked about that old furniture piece we had where the turntable was in the middle, down a little bit, and you lifted up the lid and you put the record on.
	Yeah?
	And you broke them all.
	Yeah, I pick up the stack of 78s, not really, I'm not six or seven years old, and...
	Because, of course, they weren't aligned perfectly, so all the edges broke off.
	Yeah, that's exactly the sound my parents made, too.
	They were very breakable.
	My records!
	Exactly.
	Well, there was quite a lot of stuff to look at the past few days.
	I was watching a lot of C-SPAN movies.
	Initially?
	You know, the hearings about the OIGOMG report.
	The Horowitz hearings.
	Yes, the Horowitz hearings.
	Which is really just a spot for everybody to, as always, just pander and posture.
	Signal virtue.
	It wasn't really anything great to get out of it.
	That one clip from the whole thing.
	You got one?
	Yeah, there's this douchebag named Raskin who I think is just a Democrat.
	You know, things were held to get to the bottom of their conclusions and to kind of bring out some of the details that they may have not had.
	So the Democrats weren't interested in this because as far as they're concerned, this was supposed to be about the Hillary...
	No, it's a nothing burger.
	...about the Hillary investigations...
	And so you end up with a bunch of disinterested Democrats.
	They don't care.
	I'll say this about that.
	It has to do with the Russians.
	But the other one went in two directions.
	What about the Russians?
	The other one is what Raskin had to say.
	Don't forget, this was a hearing on the Hillary email.
	The gentleman from Maryland, Professor Raskin.
	Mr.
	Chairman, thank you very much.
	Mr.
	Horowitz, our committee seems deeply lost in the force today.
	A lot of my constituents are baffled why at a moment when the U.S. government is separating thousands of children and parents at the border in a way that threatens to make us an international pariah, the Judiciary Committee and the Oversight Committee are doing nothing about this scandalous policy, but rather seem stuck in a time warp doing another investigation into an investigation into an investigation of Hillary Clinton's emails.
	You know, just before the, I think the first hearing started, there were protesters of the kids in cages with their kids, you know, crying kids.
	You know, it was like, this is what children sound like signs.
	And they had to be removed before they could start.
	And some other douchebag.
	I like the way Raskin says this.
	We're making ourselves international pariahs.
	Oh, well, hello.
	Give me a break.
	I mean, what's going on in Europe with all those guys dropping dead in the water, you know, boats overturning and all the rest of it?
	Hot details, man.
	Nobody cares about this.
	Details, man.
	My takeaway from these two days of testimony was, here's what I think happened with Comey.
	Comey was clearly complicit in trying to make sure that there was no friction for Hillary Clinton to win, and so we have the first statement, the change from gross negligence to, man, that was careless.
	And as time progressed, and we had about a week before the election, Comey sees the writing on the wall.
	Holy crap!
	Trump is going to win.
	I'm going to jail.
	And that's why he's like, oh yeah, some more emails.
	We're still doing some stuff.
	It was cover your ass time.
	That's the way I see it.
	Well, the other interpretation would be just the opposite.
	Okay.
	And it could have been this way.
	I still say it was cover your ass, but he could have been thinking like this, because I don't know anybody at that point, a couple weeks before the election, that felt that Trump was going to win.
	It would get more and more clear that Hillary was going to win.
	So he said, well, I should do this, because...
	It's not going to make any difference.
	She's going to win.
	She's going to kick ass.
	Everyone says she's going to win, so she's going to win.
	So I can do this without anybody worrying about it.
	And then if anyone brings it up afterwards, because we did reopen it, then I'm clear I'm covered.
	So he's covering his ass.
	You got that part right.
	I think the other part's wrong.
	Well, I'm not quite sure then.
	Well, you said that you thought, oh God, Trump's going to win.
	There's no doubt about it.
	I don't think that's true.
	There was no evidence that Trump was going to win to anybody, especially somebody in government like Comey.
	Maybe he knew something we didn't.
	No.
	He didn't know anything from the sounds of it.
	I mean, he's an explanation, but still cover your ass.
	There's no doubt about that.
	A couple other things.
	Oh, I learned from one of our producers that, you know, I was bitching about the full disclosure of the text.
	I said there's no emoji, so you really don't have context around it.
	He pointed out to me, if you look at the printed versions of the emails, that the emojis are actually there in Unicode.
	I guess you can Bing the Unicode codes and then the emoji will show up and you know which one it was.
	But someone needs to do that.
	We need to have...
	Yeah, we all want to see the emojis.
	I want to know if there was an eggplant emoji used at any point.
	I want to know if every time he said Trump he put the little turd on there.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I want to know what the emojis were.
	I think it's important for the American public to know.
	It's very important.
	It should have been...
	Put in as evidence.
	I mean, it seems to me you don't take the emojis out.
	That's part of the message.
	And then, what else did I learn about this?
	Oh, I did learn that it was apparently the FBI that leaked Loretta Lynch's flight plan to Bill Clinton so he could conveniently be at the same GA terminal as she was at the same time.
	That apparently came from the FBI, who talked to everybody all the time, apparently.
	They really don't care.
	You know, that's funny that you bring that up because I never thought, I mean, the coincidence was the coincidence, but I never thought that the coincidence was a setup.
	Oh, hmm.
	No, I mean, I never thought, no, I probably thought it was a setup of some sort, but I never thought about how How it was set up.
	I didn't even give that any thought.
	That's very interesting.
	It's terrible, actually, that they would do that.
	Yeah.
	Well, the FBI, well, as I said on the last show, every organization today, they're all shit.
	You know, the government's no different.
	It's just bigger and less efficient than your shit company.
	We have a two-man opera, three-man, let's say three-and-a-half-man operation.
	We're even worse shit.
	The thing about the...
	I don't think we're that bad.
	No, we're not that bad, but...
	The bigger operations, the bigger operations, because I work for the government, as you recall.
	Yep.
	You have situations, it's harder to get rid of people, so they stay there longer.
	We'd call it job padding, but there are positions where there's not that much work to do, which is kind of the thing that's going on here in California where the guy running for – Gavin Newsom running for governor, they caught him saying, yeah, I only go in once a week.
	He's a lieutenant governor now.
	I only go in once a week.
	There's really not that much to do because there's not that much to do in some of these positions.
	And so these guys – I knew this for a fact at the air pollution district.
	There's guys that would just scheme against other employees and make them miserable.
	Yeah.
	And they had a lot of time to do it.
	I always tell people.
	You weren't a part of that, were you?
	Because there's people with time on their hands.
	They got more time on their hands than you have.
	Yes.
	Very dangerous.
	Yeah, and they have time to make your life horrible if they want to.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because they got nothing else to do.
	Alright, so I think the most entertaining place to be in the past few days was Twitter, with a background of any news channel, didn't matter which one, because the acting was supreme.
	I saw real method acting, which was very effective, worked extremely well.
	A mime butthurt!
	You want to tell me that Cummings is not a method actor?
	Cummings is a method actor, man.
	That guy is good.
	He started...
	He was...
	I don't remember exactly...
	We're talking about Elijah Cummings.
	Elijah Cummings, yeah.
	And this was...
	He was from South Carolina, I think.
	Yeah.
	Hey, man.
	He walked across the bridge, bro.
	He walked across the bridge.
	And he was run over on the bridge, I think, in Selma.
	I think that's his claim.
	It probably happened.
	He did something.
	I think this was before the Horowitz trial, actually.
	This was what he had to say about the kids in cages.
	I liked his facial expressions.
	I had to take out some of the pauses just so we could play this and have it be any normal length.
	And he was really, really wrapping it up, and then he messes it up at the end, and as an entertainer, I can tell you that's very, very, very shit when you flub the punchline.
	We sent letter after letter.
	Letter after letter.
	Asking these committees to investigate the Trump administration's policy, which is now resulting in child internment camps.
	That's what I said.
	Child internment camps.
	But we have got no response.
	Look, even if you believe people entered our country illegally, Even if you believe they have no valid asylum claims in their own country, even if you believe immigration should be halted entirely, we all should be able to agree that in the United States of America, we will not intentionally separate children from their parents.
	We will not do that.
	We are better than that.
	I'm like, yeah, he's getting there.
	And he's got all the little memes in there.
	And of course, we never separate parents from children, children from parents in America.
	We never do that.
	We are so much better.
	Yes.
	We should be able to agree that we will not keep kids in child internment camp.
	What exactly is the difference between...
	I should have looked this up.
	Internment camp must be a definition.
	No, I don't think so.
	No?
	No.
	Well, I think it's a permanent installation where you move people and you keep them there for a long time.
	He's putting a person in prison or other kind of detention.
	Oh, I know what he's referring to.
	I'm just reading it.
	Yeah, so he's making it sound like the Japanese internment camps, who, by the way, were Americans who were in the camps.
	They were not illegal aliens.
	Indefinitely and hidden away from public view.
	What country is that?
	This is the United States of America.
	We now have reports that parents are being deported.
	Preach!
	But the Trump administration is keeping their children here.
	2018.
	In America, we do not need legislation.
	This is a policy.
	We don't need legislation.
	And understand this.
	This was a policy invented, implemented, and executed by President Donald Trump.
	Another great use of a word.
	They're executed.
	And so, in conclusion, Mr.
	Chairman, we need you.
	Those children need you.
	I'm talking directly to my Republican colleagues.
	We need you to stand up to President Klump.
	Oh, damn.
	So close.
	So close.
	Klump.
	Klump?
	So he goes all the way to the computers and he says you gotta stand up to President Klump?
	Oh my God.
	He's gotta be kicking himself in.
	I'm talking directly to my Republican colleagues.
	We need you to stand up to President Klump, Trump.
	He must be so pissed.
	It was right at the end, too.
	And it was good.
	You know, he had the performance.
	He had everything going on.
	And then a clump.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, geez.
	So we had, there were so many television events, but the back and forth on Twitter, just the hatred is something that I'll have to come back to in the show.
	I caught a clip on ABC. You know, ABC, all the networks were just covering this for at least the first 15 or more minutes of their newscast.
	They really didn't have anything new to bring to the table.
	So they started digging up, dredging up stories and other things.
	So I got this clip and there's something, there's an anomaly in here.
	That I want to see if you can spot.
	And when I heard it, this is about the Guatemalan kid.
	This is an interesting ABC spotlight on the Guat kid.
	Cecilia Vega leading us off.
	It was last night here.
	We reported on a young boy separated from his father eight months ago, left back here in the U.S. after his father was deported.
	Well, tonight, eight months later, we are there as he says goodbye to his foster family here in the U.S. and then arrives home hours later in Guatemala.
	The trauma on his face all over again.
	ABC's Alex Perez tonight on The Journey.
	It's nearly 5 in the morning and 10-year-old Samuel is already at the airport.
	After a late night of packing up his teddy bear and art supplies, he's about to board a flight from Michigan back home to his native Guatemala to reunite with his family he hasn't seen in eight months.
	Samuel with his foster parents, who are still fostering other children, so we agreed not to show their faces.
	We have a lot of love from your family in the United States.
	Always.
	Always, always, always.
	They and their own three children have been caring for someone since the boy's father illegally crossed the border with him and they were apprehended.
	Immigration officials immediately separating them.
	His father deported already back in Guatemala.
	I have to be honest.
	I didn't catch it.
	I know.
	I don't think anybody did.
	Uh...
	This was eight months ago.
	Why was...
	Where was the big stink eight months ago?
	Well...
	They made it sound like this just happened and this is what's going on, but this was eight...
	Yeah.
	So in other words, they were doing this separation thing eight months ago.
	Yeah, we know it was...
	Minimum.
	Yeah, we know it was longer than that.
	But it was actually years ago, as you pointed out last show.
	Yeah.
	This had started years ago and it's been going on and this is a poignant story from eight months ago.
	Uh-huh.
	And everybody's only been making a fuss for, what, a week?
	Because of somebody bringing it to the fore?
	Because it was well planned.
	It's a scam.
	I think Ann Coulter's right when she said it was rigged.
	It was a setup.
	And that's pretty apparent.
	A stunt.
	That's pretty apparent.
	I mean, there's a lot of things planned.
	We have a big march taking place on the 30th.
	That's still going to go ahead as planned.
	Just as a background of the way I explained it on the last episode, because we don't really need to go all the way into if there's a law or a consent decree or, you know, what was happening is way back when we're talking, this started in 87, it was revisited in 97, again in 2016.
	is that kids were being put into jail cells or holding cells or internment camps, whatever you want to call it, with their parents after crossing illegally.
	And it was in California that the district court of Southern California started up this process, which eventually became the Flores Agreement.
	And that said, you know, this is dangerous for the kids.
	You have to separate the kids from the dangers if they're in, you know, they can't be in a holding cell.
	And so the idea was to make sure kids were safe.
	So kids then got separated.
	And this has been ongoing for a long time.
	Of course, certainly with the Obama administration, I haven't really looked at Bush, but maybe he wasn't doing that much.
	It wasn't as much as the Trump administration because, as he promised, zero tolerance.
	And you could have seen it coming.
	And then, of course, Sessions announced it.
	And so then, you know, there was a reason.
	I'm sure more kids were separated from their parents.
	No doubt about it.
	And what everyone wants is, well, we have to, we can't separate the children from the parents.
	That's a bad thing.
	So now Trump has signed an executive order, which is in itself interesting because it looks like, you know, first of all, space where we're going to put kids or anybody.
	You know, we're going to use army bases, it looks like.
	But he also specifically in that executive order addresses the Flores Agreement and needs permission from the Southern District of California, the Ninth Circuit, whatever it is, to adjust or change the Flores Agreement.
	And I can tell you what's going to happen next.
	It'll be, well, wait a minute.
	Now kids are with their parents.
	It's a dangerous situation there.
	There's criminals.
	It's like a loop.
	We've created an infinite loop.
	A permanent loop.
	But of course this is not really...
	This is just about, you know, finding more ways to get people to go come out and vote.
	And in fact, it's starting to show up.
	The only way we can stop this is to vote.
	Let's bring out the vote.
	Vote them out.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	But what was done so effectively and what is interesting to me, and of course, you know, I have feelings, you know, I feel bad for the kids, you know, but I can also rationalize it.
	You know, one of the main things, you know, here's how my brain is trained.
	You know, the most dangerous part of flying is driving to the airport.
	So, you know, the risk.
	Risk and numbers and, you know, what's happening with kids at the border or, you know, the kids underneath I-35 here in Austin.
	You know, there's a whole bunch of ways you can look at stuff.
	If you want to take it to an extreme, I got another one.
	These are short clips.
	If you want to take it to the extreme, everyone's moaning and groaning about these kids.
	Even though, by the way, they're a Guatemala kid.
	Eight months ago, was put into apparently a very nice foster home that he enjoyed and he, you know, thrived, learned a little English.
	Anyway, he was kind of a very strange story.
	But let's play this.
	This is not really off the mark if you want to talk about being sympathetic and heartfelt.
	Play this.
	Yemen update.
	Oh, I gotcha.
	Pro-government forces in Yemen say they've scored a new gain in the battle for the Red Sea port of Hodeidah.
	They say they captured the southern runway at the city's airport today.
	Meanwhile, workers with the World Health Organization issued a new warning about the consequences of the fighting.
	WHO is deeply concerned at the increased fighting in Al-Hodeidah.
	This fighting puts more than 600,000 people at risk in al-Hodeidah.
	And we're deeply concerned at the risk that this has for the port.
	70% of people in Yemen rely on the port for food and medicines.
	Also today, the Associated Press reported that hundreds of detainees in southern Yemen were tortured and sexually abused last March.
	It happened at a secret facility run by the United Arab Emirates.
	There you go.
	Yeah, beautiful.
	I don't hear anybody complaining about this.
	You're talking about separating a child from its parents is one thing, but having them, you know, blowed up and tortured and sexually abused in a systematic way that's been going on for months and months and months, and the United States is behind it.
	Yeah, but Yemen doesn't vote in the midterms.
	Well, they don't vote Democrat, that's for sure.
	Now, some of the truth did slip out, even on CNN. Brooke...
	Is it Baldwin, I think?
	No, not Brooke Baldwin.
	Yeah, maybe it is.
	She was with, ah, yes, Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin, no relation, from Wisconsin.
	And she asked this question about this, about the long-term, about this happening long-term, even in the Obama administration, which I thought was good.
	But the senator was caught off guard.
	But here's a question for Democrats, because you hear the president now, you know, on a lot of topics, and this one included, you know, looking back to previous administrations, well, they should have done more, right?
	And so, as so many people in this country are certainly outraged by the cages and the thermal blankets and the facilities housing these kids, you know, they were all there in 2014 under President Obama.
	And my question to you, Senator Baldwin, is did you speak up against them then?
	You know, On this issue that we What?
	Get into a moment where we're making progress, and then when it stalls...
	I hope Brooke says, please address the question.
	...we turn around.
	I think we all need to continue to be focused on it and press it through.
	The American people need confidence that we can solve problems.
	Nobody believes that we have an immigration system that works.
	It is broken.
	It needs fixing.
	But we've just got to resolve to do that.
	But were you worried about it then?
	Did you raise your voice under the Obama administration?
	In numbers of cases, usually I remember a constituent who was in detention at the border, arguably very inappropriately, and we raised our voice in that instance and many others, but that's We've got to do this now in unison.
	It's not enough to do it case by case or senator or house member by house member.
	We've got to resolve to fix this issue.
	Thanks for not answering the question.
	But I thought that was pretty brave.
	By the way, I'm giving you a borderline clip of the day.
	I was surprised that that came true.
	I want you to be Brooke Baldwin, I'll be the other Baldwin, and I'm going to answer the same question.
	I'm going to do it the way she should have done it.
	Senator, Senator, but Senator, were you as vocal during the Obama administration when the same thing was happening?
	Were you as vocal then?
	Were you standing up for the children then, Senator?
	Well, I'll tell you the problem.
	The answer to that, to be honest about it, is no, and there's a good reason for that.
	Oh.
	The reason is because we were not made as aware of it, and we had no idea about these cages, and I'm appalled by what happened during the Obama administration.
	Now it's just gotten worse.
	But, but, but, but, you'll never be invited to another Obama thing.
	I won.
	She could have done that.
	She could have, instead of trying to flub it out by being, you know, an Obama bot...
	We could have just taken the offensive.
	That's what, you know, it was very easy to do, and she didn't do it.
	So she's a loser.
	And the constituents of Wisconsin will be happy to have you, John C. Dvorak, as their senator, I'm sure.
	I'd be much better.
	Now, what really ratcheted this up, and so now we're at a position, the beginning of this week, Where, you know, the stage is set, now it's a game of chicken.
	And one of the things I was, until the executive order came out yesterday, I was initially going to say, isn't it interesting how lawmakers are, you know, you heard Cummings, you know, people are crying on TV, there's just crazy stuff.
	And by the way, we get, you know, well...
	So, all these things are happening.
	People are freaking out about it.
	There's incredible things being said and, you know, there's just too much to cover.
	But if these Democrats truly, because it really was, and the Republicans who also, the same thing.
	Oh, they hate Trump Republicans.
	If they truly, truly felt that bad, Then wouldn't you just say, fuck it, let's just do a law?
	You know, it's like, why didn't you just do that?
	You kept talking and talking and make it sound worse, but no one seemed to be actually doing very much.
	It's about getting out to vote.
	Okay, that's established.
	We don't need to say it every single time.
	I'm going to say it a lot.
	But it got ratcheted up.
	Now, the stage is set.
	So now the groups come in.
	We've got the Fascism for America guys.
	We've got the...
	Who is fascism for America, guys?
	That's what I call them.
	It's nofascism.org, whatever it is.
	There's the Democrats against fascism, the Democratic Socialists of America, and ProPublica.
	Who also have their funders and their agenda.
	They come up with...
	I mean, this was a great thing to throw into the machine.
	And the machine loves this.
	The anonymously sourced, audio-only video of the children crying.
	Well, we're going to listen to a little bit of it here.
	Where is it?
	Here.
	And this is how it was presented with this music.
	This is not reporting, by the way.
	This is setting the stage for what you're about to hear.
	Now, let me tell you, this sound that you're hearing is like nails on a chalkboard to certainly every mother and probably every father as well.
	You know, when you hear that kind of wailing from a child, and of course it's subtitled, Papa, Papa, don't report me, or don't deport my papa.
	And then here's the Spanish-speaking, I guess, ice.
	Thug.
	Thug who is saying, oh, we've got a real orchestra here, don't we?
	Come on, kids, be quiet.
	But that really was a genius move.
	That really set people off and emotions ran extremely high.
	And this is real.
	This is not acting.
	I mean, it's method acting to an extreme, I guess, in some bizarre way.
	But Rachel Maddow receiving a breaking news flash just before the end of her show where it became apparent that now they have facilities for, quote, tender age children.
	And, you know, wow!
	Whoever came up with the name, and I think it's an official name, and it's probably an official categorization.
	This is Hollywood at work, doing some of its best work.
	It's so good, and it worked.
	I mean, yes, Hollywood doing its best work, and Rachel, I mean, it just got to her.
	And this is just before a handoff to, I guess, Larry O'Donnell.
	New news.
	This has just come out from the Associated Press.
	This is incredible.
	Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children to at least three...
	Can we put up the graphic of this?
	Thank you.
	Do we have it?
	No.
	Three tender aid shelters in South Texas.
	Lawyers and medical providers.
	Just...
	I think I'm going to have to hand this off.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	That does a frustrating night.
	We'll see you again tomorrow.
	Now it is time for the last word to Lawrence O'Donnell where he is live in Brownsville, Texas.
	Thank you very much, Rachel.
	We just got word of that breaking news story that Rachel was just telling you about, and that is that the Trump administration has announced that they now say that they are operating three facilities somewhere around here for what they're calling tender-age children.
	This is a very difficult story to process.
	It has been every day.
	A very difficult story to process.
	So that was real.
	I mean, Rachel was really very emotional.
	This was not acting.
	Yeah, but you've got to remember that Rachel was in tears when Trump won to begin with, and this is just all reminders.
	Of course it is.
	She is a wreck, this woman.
	Yeah, well, it wasn't her alone.
	I mean, what was this I have from the Lawrence O'Donnell show?
	Hold on.
	Where they were on this policy was going to put 100 Republican seats in jeopardy.
	That's logic.
	We don't want to play logic right now.
	But it went to such an extreme.
	Now this is nine minutes that I chopped down to just a couple.
	I think we should just listen and comment because a lot of familiar things come back into this particular piece of audio.
	Uh, the emotions got so high, and of course at this point, you know, the gangs are in, left and right, and there's all kinds of organizations all gearing up for this, and they decide to publicly shame Department of Homeland Security Director Kirstjen Nielsen.
	She's in a restaurant in Washington, D.C. Everyone probably saw the news story.
	She was shamed out of the restaurant.
	There's a picture of her, a video of her walking out of the restaurant with, at this point, a security detail.
	But this went on inside the restaurant for nine minutes.
	And I was surprised.
	I don't care what's going on.
	If you're in my restaurant and you're disturbing that for nine minutes, unless you're complicit, you're going to be kicking people out.
	I mean, after maybe 30 seconds, I'd say, excuse me, there are other people eating here.
	Just take your stuff outside.
	So it seems fairly well coordinated.
	But once you kind of hear what was being said and the chants, it becomes apparent where these people are coming from, but also how they're driven from pure, raw, ignited emotion.
	Yeah, before you play the clip...
	And I'm only saying this because of what you mentioned earlier in the show, which was the FBI setting up the Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton meetup at the tarmac, is that this had to be planned in advance because you can't get that many people to show up out of the blue.
	So I would say complicity was probably part of the restaurant.
	It was a restaurant ownership.
	It was because I'm sure somebody's just not following her around all the time, but they knew that she ate there.
	They reported back to somebody that she's a regular customer at this restaurant.
	And then somebody talked him into keeping an eye out for and calling a hotline number.
	And that hotline never resulted in these guys coming over immediately and creating this disturbance.
	That's the only thing that makes sense.
	I've been in Berkeley.
	I know how these things work.
	You don't get this kind of thing contemporaneously.
	Good use of the word contemporaneous.
	I didn't want to use it.
	I like it.
	You're impressing me, big boy.
	Now, if you said to me, make a soundtrack of Twitter during this episode, this would be it.
	This would be the soundtrack.
	In fact, we could probably remix this and really make it sound cool.
	But this is a soundtrack of Twitter.
	So whenever you want to disturb the peace and do that under virtue signaling, how do we start that, John?
	The chant.
	And what is the chant?
	Yes, no, we won't go.
	Something, one of these simple dumb chants.
	How about Mike Jack!
	Mike Jack!
	Secretary Nielsen, how dare you spend your evening here at your complicit in the separation and deportation of over 10,000 children separated from their parents?
	So we start with mic check and you're complicit.
	Mic check with nine people makes no sense.
	But it's because it's programming.
	It's the same people.
	That's the point.
	The same people.
	So let's just hear what they're saying.
	You're complicit in the incarceration of 10,000 children.
	Yeah!
	As you're deported and imprisoning tens of thousands of people who come here seeking asylum in the United States, we call on you to add family separation and abolish ICE! Abolish ICE? That's probably going to work out well, isn't it?
	Remove police!
	Shame!
	Shame!
	Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! And family separation! And family separation!
	And family separation!
	I cut all these down, of course, because the shame went on for at least two minutes.
	And family separation!
	If kids don't eat in peace, you don't eat in peace!
	If kids don't eat in peace, you don't eat in peace.
	If kids don't eat in peace, you don't eat in peace.
	Not in the U.S.
	Not in D.C.
	Not in the U.S.
	Not in D.C.
	Not in D.C.
	In a Mexican restaurant of all places.
	Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is in a Mexican restaurant of all places.
	It's a fucking goal.
	Shame on you!
	That is the DOJ employee, by the way, who is the ringleader of this.
	She works for the Department of Justice, and she is the one saying, you know, of all the fucking gall to have dinner in a Mexican restaurant while you're locking Mexican children up.
	Say what?
	In this instance, it's mostly Costa Ricans.
	Thank you for pointing out the obvious.
	But this is not unhinged.
	This is psychotic.
	Shame!
	Shame!
	No human being is illegal!
	No human being is illegal!
	Ah, we're getting to the New World Order crowd, finally.
	No human being is illegal!
	No human being is illegal!
	No human being!
	No child is illegal.
	No child is illegal?
	There you go.
	No walls, no borders.
	No walls, no borders.
	Sanctuary for all.
	Sanctuary for all.
	No borders, no walls.
	Sanctuary for all.
	Sanctuary for all.
	We have the audio of DHS First Stop ripping away children.
	DHS ripping away children.
	Just take a minute and listen.
	How does that sound?
	So now they're playing the audio of the children crying, so they got a boombox.
	How does that make you feel?
	Shame on you!
	Shame on you!
	Very well organized.
	Oh, yeah.
	It sounds, I mean, it is psychotic.
	It's nuts and unhinged.
	You're right.
	But it's extremely well organized.
	It's professionally done.
	Correct.
	And they had signs, printed signs, everything.
	End Texas Concentration Camps!
	End the Texas Concentration Camps.
	How do I get into one?
	End Texas Concentration Camps!
	End Texas Concentration Camps!
	Okay, hold on a second.
	I might as well point this out.
	This, again, by the way, I think this may backfire on the electorate, but it's just too annoying.
	Again, we have the Democrats with their, can you focus on one thing?
	It's not even, these aren't even Democrats, John.
	These are people who are riled up, so they just got bad instructions.
	Well, I'm going to assume that purpose, again, is to get people to vote Democrat.
	But, again, it's unfocused.
	It's like all these things they have against Trump.
	There's not one or two things you can just write home on.
	It's just...
	They go from one topic to another.
	I mean, what's the point?
	Why now talk about the Texas concentration camps, as if there are any?
	It's just a whole...
	It's just completely...
	It's very...
	It's professionally done, but they must have too many meetings with too many people, and they all want to get their one complaint in.
	Yes.
	Well, and that's what you see...
	And again, this is why I said it was just like Twitter.
	This is exactly what it was like on Twitter.
	Everything from Peter Fonda...
	Calling, you know, just using crazy language like Barron should be kidnapped, you know, Christian Nielsen should be, you know, poked and slapped and tied to the, you know, put in the stockade.
	Yeah, he came in out of the blue for some reason.
	Well, he has a movie coming out next week.
	That's why he came out out of the blue.
	And the punchline is the title of the movie is Boundaries.
	That's the punchline of it all.
	But this is exactly what was going on on Twitter, except, of course, you don't have the counter-argument, which is just as vile and loud and annoying.
	Kirsten Nielsen will want you to think that we are ruining your dinner?
	She is the secretary of DHS. Ice rips children apart from their families every day.
	They lock them up in cages.
	They sleep under those silver blankets.
	You guys get at marathons.
	These kids will never be reunited with their parents.
	Never.
	Because Kirsten Nielsen's staff doesn't think it's necessary to make a plan to reunite.
	Did she say in earlier the same screech-through?
	Is that that she's the Secretary of State?
	Oh, I don't know.
	Did she say that?
	I think DHS. I thought you would say DHS. Before that?
	Yeah, it was...
	I should have stopped it earlier.
	Okay, I was listening.
	It's a concentration camp!
	Kirsten Nielsen will want you to think that we are ruining your dinner.
	She is the secretary of DHS. No, she says DHS. You guys rips children apart from their families every day.
	They lock them up in cages.
	They sleep under those silver blankets you guys get at marathons.
	These kids will never be reunited with their parents because Kirsten Nielsen's staff doesn't think it's necessary to make a plan to reunite them with their parents.
	Have any of you ever been to a detention center?
	I've been to one in Nogales, Arizona.
	Those kids are alone.
	They are in cages.
	They are given peanut butter on tortillas.
	They're given frozen sandwiches that still have ice in them.
	Is that the kind of environment you would want your kid to be in?
	That was a very interesting comment, I thought, that the idea of giving these children tortillas with peanut butter and some of them were out of the fridge, they still had ice on them, is just despicable to this woman.
	It's just the whole idea.
	Meanwhile, I don't know if she has kids, but she's probably feeding them mac and cheese.
	Yeah, it's not much better.
	Is this the DOJ woman?
	Yeah, it's the same one.
	She's the loudest.
	She's the best.
	So the DOJ woman is really just the troublemaker?
	Yes.
	Now, how does DOJ deal with this?
	Do they fire her?
	No, I don't know.
	Let's see if that gets...
	I think she's setting herself up to be fired so she can make a bigger fuss.
	Oh, she could get on TV with that.
	Yeah, you're right.
	When you are fleeing...
	Take the place of Michael Avenatti, who I think is because...
	As I promised you, the media has backlashed against that guy.
	It's like, okay...
	You need somebody new that you can put on all the shows.
	Back to Twitter.
	NBC, NBC, ABC. And she would be the perfect one if she gets fired.
	So they have to...
	You're right.
	They have to...
	It was what I would do, being an ex-bureaucrat.
	I'd bring her in and discipline her, say, you know, this is really bad what you're doing.
	We're transferring you to the...
	Justice Department outpost in Bangor, Maine.
	And just move her.
	Move her.
	So she's...
	No.
	Yeah.
	Move her.
	Alaska.
	But you're right.
	Twitter is now the farm team for the news networks.
	So, Michael Avenatti, back to Twitter you go.
	You're back over there.
	Hey, you, loud chick.
	Maybe you'll do.
	...violence and trying to give them a better life, because that is what Kirsten Nielsen wants them to have.
	That is what she gets paid to do.
	What's your salary, Kirsten?
	What's your salary, Kirsten?
	Now, this is one of my favorites, coming from the Democratic Socialists of America.
	What's your salary?
	How much do you make locking up children?
	No borders, no walls, sanctuary for all.
	We're here tonight because DHS Secretary Nielsen is sitting right over there trying to enjoy dinner as over 10,000 children have been ripped away from their parents' arms.
	So we say you can't enjoy your dinner until you reunite all of those families and abolish ICE! Shave!
	Shave!
	speaking English or will be generalized the phone numbers of their aunt in America who can maybe come safer, Kirsten Wilson will lock up your kids no hesitation.
	Remember what her face looks like.
	Remember what her face looks like when she comes for your children.
	Fantastic.
	Fantastic.
	I have to say one thing that was kind of slightly annoying just to me personally was we never found what she was eating.
	Oh, God.
	You're so right about that.
	And she was just sitting there in the corner with her husband or I don't know.
	And it was very uncomfortable.
	There were three guards there.
	Not in the beginning they didn't.
	Not in the beginning.
	No, no, no.
	It took a little while.
	She texted someone and then they showed up and those guys just kind of stood in front of her.
	But it's not just Christian Nielsen.
	This is one of our producers.
	He wants to be anonymous, as I'm sure you and John are going to talk about this in the next show.
	This madness has already started to directly affect my family because my wife works for CCA, a private company that is contracted to ICE to handle detention, otherwise known as the Evil Ote Mesa Detention Facility here in San Diego County.
	In addition, we have close family members in the CBP, Customs Border Patrol, which is pretty common in our area for everyone.
	The majority of illegals detained there are awaiting trial for crimes like rape, ID theft, murder, drugs, gang violence, etc.
	Not some poor Joe Gonzalez that was just found to be undocumented hanging outside Home Depot and ripped away from his family.
	And there are no children housed there regardless of the fake face bag video going around.
	More to the point.
	She came home after a shift and told me about numerous death threats they received in post-response to Mr. Fonda's call to action.
	Some were even nice enough to leave a callback number for the sheriff's anti-terrorism unit to investigate.
	As well as a number of people waiting outside the facility taking pictures of all the officers, their personal vehicles, and the facility.
	Protesters are nothing new to the facility, but this kind of action is crossing a line.
	The Ote Mesa facility is owned and operated by CCA, not ICE, even though the news reports differently.
	Everyone who works there is a regular citizen with a crappy job like most Americans.
	Their personal information is not protected because they're not technically officers of the law, so there's nothing legally protecting anyone that works there from these radical threats.
	On a side note, our wonderful Nancy Pelosi toured the facility a day ago with her entourage of hate, who even went so far as to talk down the church chaplain saying, oh yeah, where in the Bible does it say to rip children from their mothers?
	Nice.
	I wish we had audio of that.
	That would have been great.
	Yes.
	Keep a recorder around.
	By the way, if you have an Android phone, it's called AndRecorder.
	A very good product.
	You can turn it on.
	It's an app.
	You can turn it on and then when you go to an Android, when you go back to the home screen where you do anything else, the thing doesn't show back up.
	So it doesn't look like you have a recorder going.
	Somebody smart knew what this would look like when the app was running.
	It runs in the background.
	Fine.
	So you can just get it going and then you can put it in your pocket with the microphone up or any number of ways.
	I record conversations all the time.
	Especially if it involves negotiations.
	We love you for that.
	I never said that.
	Oh, really?
	So, you can carry this thing around.
	That's actually the only reason why we started recording this as a show, is because you just would keep saying, oh, really?
	Oh, really?
	So...
	You can get this.
	It's free.
	And then when you're done with your recording, you can go.
	You have to actually dig the app.
	You have to go to that little where you show the different windows.
	You show all the apps running.
	You find it.
	Click on it.
	Open it up.
	And then you have to stop it manually.
	Otherwise, it'll record for days.
	It doesn't use up a lot of room.
	I have recorded a lot of long things with it.
	I'm a sound guy, so I like it.
	I've recorded an entire BART trip in a BART train from Oakland all the way through San Francisco to Post at one of the sound effect collection operations.
	All right, I'm going to stop you there because we get it.
	Record.
	I'm done.
	Now, this is not over by a long shot, despite the executive order, which really is, you know...
	Trump really underestimated what was going on.
	Initially, I thought, man, did he really start this himself to put some kind of pressure on getting a bill that includes the border wall?
	Because that ultimately is what he wants.
	That's all he wants.
	That's all he wants.
	And at this point, he should be given that because that is kind of what the election was about.
	But okay, we can all fight and bitch and moan.
	That's not true.
	The election was about build a wall and let Mexico pay for it, not the taxpayers.
	Gotcha.
	Gotcha.
	So if Mexico came along and said, here's the money, then it would be cool?
	You really think so?
	That's going to happen.
	No, but let's say it happened in a world of crazy.
	Do you think that everyone would be like, oh, okay, well, since they're paying for it, go build it?
	Really?
	You think that would happen?
	No.
	Of course not.
	Well, now you ask.
	It's personal.
	It's personal at this point.
	Probably not.
	But this will continue, and there will be new things that are rotten and crappy about the president and Republicans.
	Well, I have a couple of clips.
	Well, hold on.
	I was going to say, this is going to manifest itself June 30th, if you go to familiesbelongtogether.org.
	They have a huge amount of marches planned.
	There's going to be a march on D.C. They've got petitions.
	Of course, there's no idea who's behind this because the domain registration is private.
	Probably Hans or one of those socialist operations.
	They've got signs you can print out, and I'll just read you the headline here.
	Families belong together.
	The Trump administration is cruelly separating children from their families, but now the world is paying attention, and we won't allow this to continue.
	Join an upcoming event.
	We'll send a powerful message.
	Families belong together.
	So this is not over.
	If you read the newsletter, Peter Fonda kid thinks that they're going to get 90 million people to protest on this thing.
	There is a couple of things that caught my attention.
	For one thing, by the way, Trump signing the executive order to ending it is really taking – it's not over, but I think the wind has been taken out of their sails, especially for a big protest.
	What are you protesting?
	I disagree.
	I think that the outrage, there's going to be a new thing that people latch on to, and the outrage will just continue, and you won't even know that he signed an executive order within three weeks.
	Okay, well, we'll put that in the bin.
	I disagree.
	I want to play a clip.
	First, I want to play the kind of the zero-tolerance kind of roundup that was part of the roundup that was done on PBS, which I thought was a little more reasonable.
	Then the network news, which talked about this issue, there's PBS on Trump, zero tolerance, one.
	Yeah, sorry about that.
	From Democrats.
	We're here to call in the press and to rescind this zero tolerance policy.
	This is not about attacking the president.
	This is about humanity.
	And from protesters, including some shouting at Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen as she ate dinner at a Mexican restaurant last night.
	Stop!
	President Trump announced the about-face around lunchtime.
	We are signing an executive order in a little while.
	The president's executive order would detain families together instead of separately.
	The administration insists the change does not mean it is backing down from its zero-tolerance policy.
	This has been going...
	Mr.
	Trump announced the change to a table full of Republican lawmakers, but seemed openly conflicted on the topic.
	If you're weak...
	Which some people would like you to be.
	If you're really, really pathetically weak, the country's gonna be overrun with millions of people.
	And if you're strong, Then you don't have any heart.
	That's a tough dilemma.
	Perhaps I'd rather be strong.
	For days, the public has seen these images, provided by the administration, of some of the shelters for the more than 2,300 kids now separated from their parents.
	That figure is for the first month alone of the president's zero-tolerance policy.
	It is still not clear how many are toddlers or infants and how long it will take to reunite them all with parents.
	Hello?
	Yeah.
	Your clip?
	It ended?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I thought there was more on there.
	Anyway, so that was kind of their rundown.
	Now, so I have this one clip, very short clip, and it's only part of what his spiel was, but this is John Heilman.
	Who is supposed to be a neutral reporter.
	And he's gotten...
	He was like the mad...
	This is your friend.
	Isn't this your buddy?
	Yeah, I know Heilman.
	Yeah.
	He's not my buddy.
	He's not one of my...
	What do we call them?
	Lib something?
	I forget their names.
	Their nicknames.
	I haven't seen him for years.
	But he was the partner with Mark Halperin, the guy who got rousted because of sexual improprieties.
	And so now he's kind of on his own.
	And they were a duo.
	They were doing a lot of work.
	Libjoes.
	Thank you, Troll Room.
	I was racking my brain, too, and then the Troll Room to the rescue.
	Yeah, Libjoes.
	He's not a Libjoe friend of mine.
	But he's...
	But he presents himself as this neutral observer, but he obviously got caught up in the emotions of the whole thing, and then he realized that he's been screwed by Trump signing this order, and he gets all worked up about it, and then he says, we, referring to the Democrats, which I find to always be a huge blunder, When you're so involved.
	But listen to the way he says this, and then listen to the way this wraps.
	...on this issue.
	And to make sure that he can't be both.
	You can't just do this thing and then stand up and say, oh, hey, I'm now the hero.
	I have compassion.
	Uh-uh.
	You can't go around talking about people like they're vermin.
	You can't inflict this kind of policy on Americans and not pay a political price.
	We have a great chance to inflict one on him and his party in November.
	We, I mean, the Democratic Party does.
	I'm not part of the Democratic Party.
	But people who object to this policy, which I think is a lot of people beyond the Democratic Party, have a chance to make the president and his party pay a price.
	They should.
	And the press needs to hold him accountable and not let him just kind of slide away from this over the course of the next few days and pretend like it didn't happen.
	I've never seen you like this before.
	You've given me a lump in my throat with that a little bit.
	I don't do it often, but I had to get in a little bit of a Twitter fight with Jen Briney from the Congressional Dish podcast.
	And it wasn't really a fight, but I really appreciate and respect her ability to research legislation.
	And she had just...
	her filters had not allowed her to really look deeper into if there's a law or not.
	And as I explained on the previous show, there's a consent decree and how that can or cannot be changed and what is law.
	But without a doubt, the 100% zero tolerance policy, that's a great way to say it, 100% zero tolerance policy, of course, increased the problem and it ratcheted up.
	And there's no doubt about it, but it's not like this policy could be changed with just a stroke of a pen, and that is proven by the executive order, which it still takes action from government bodies to get this done.
	So I debated the facts with her back and forth a little bit.
	It was very civil, because I think we like each other.
	I like Jen.
	I think she's good.
	As I said, I respect what she does.
	She's a lib Joe, though.
	She's a Lib Joe, and her judgment was clouded.
	And so I pointed out a few things, and she publicly rescinded and said, oh, okay.
	Because she's like, Walmart!
	They sent these kids to Walmart!
	It's not a licensed facility!
	And I said, okay, here's the article where it shows that it is a licensed facility.
	And I'm just doing a voice the way I imagined it at the time in my head.
	One of my voices.
	Yeah, it was okay, but then she made a mistake and she said, I'm surprised that you are defending this!
	And I'm like, there you go, Jen.
	This is your problem.
	At no point, look at my tweets, did I defend anything.
	I just said, here's what I think is the law, and I'm countering your argument.
	But that is the problem.
	Immediately, if you just want to discuss something...
	You're immediately presumed to be defending or, you know, yeah, defending, defending the policy, well, not even Trump, just defending hurting children.
	It's like, yeah, that would be surprising.
	I think you know me a little better than that.
	I really don't think that I would be someone who would actually be defending children being traumatized.
	So, why did I even bring this up?
	I don't know.
	What other clips do you have?
	You're irked.
	Yeah, it was disappointing.
	I've never seen you like this before.
	I was really disappointed.
	I'm like, why?
	That was a call back to the Heilman clip.
	Well, there you go.
	There's another Lib Joe, and the emotions are getting the better of people, and they don't know.
	And hopefully in the second half, or after the first block, or B block, I can shed a little light on it.
	It's kind of funny to think, when did we start our parallel universe, alternate universe?
	Two years ago?
	It was right after the election.
	Two years ago?
	Yeah.
	And we said, watch this.
	We were talking about this incessantly.
	I didn't think it was going to get worse.
	Well, here you are.
	People are truly living in two different movies with the same script, but the movie just plays out differently.
	That's what I'm going to talk about later.
	Alright, do you have any other stuff on this particular topic?
	Well, let's see.
	And by the way, what we're not going to do, we're very early on a lot of these things.
	No one had heard of the Flores Agreement.
	Now it shows up in an executive order.
	So, sorry, we actually do the research and we came up with, I think, what are the correct answers.
	But what you don't need is a whole bunch of us going off debating like you've seen incessantly.
	What you need is a guiding light to take you through the insanity so you don't get cut by either side of the shark-infested waters.
	And I'm just talking about your own family.
	Let alone where you work.
	Sam is pretty good about this.
	Not all.
	I have tons of emails from people.
	We get donation notes from people saying, my family this, my family that.
	It's very hard.
	This stuff is breaking up families and friendships.
	That's the idea.
	We're trying to destroy the country.
	No borders, no walls.
	No friends.
	No borders, no walls, no friends.
	Exactly.
	She's really hanging in there.
	I wonder how long she's going to put up with this and just not quit.
	I do have the one clip of her, and I was impressed.
	I always like how she handles things.
	I think she could easily be a candidate for president.
	Is she wearing too much foundation, or is it just me?
	She's at that age where you go through these phases of more makeup, less makeup.
	I can say that from experience.
	I think I've seen this.
	No.
	I mean, she's also under light, so she overcompensates a little bit, probably.
	Anyway, here is her just explaining the law.
	I'm just wondering, I want to make sure we get the reporting right, which of those is the most precise way to describe how the administration feels, and given the blowback by a number of Republicans as well as Democrats, are you considering rethinking this based on feedback, or is this the administration's position going forward, period, paragraph?
	The laws prohibit us from detaining families while they go through prosecution for illegally entering the border and while they go through prosecutions for immigration proceedings.
	If we close the loopholes, we can keep the families together, which is what they did in the last administration until a court ruled that we can no longer do that.
	After 20 days, we have to release both unaccompanied children and accompanied children.
	Which means that we cannot detain families together.
	The only option is to not enforce the law at all.
	Yes.
	Okay, so going back to these two questions from Kristen and Margaret, you said that you want Congress to pose some new polls.
	With that, you also said that you want to make this work.
	Now, are these kids being used as pawns for a wall?
	Many people are asking that, and Democrats are saying this is your discretion, and there is no law that says that this White House can separate parents from The kids are being used by pawns, by the smugglers and the traffickers.
	Again, let's just pause to think about this statistic.
	314% increase in adults showing up with kids that are not a family unit.
	Those are traffickers, those are smugglers, that is MS-13, those are criminals, those are abusers.
	So, thank you.
	All I'm trying to say is, closing that loophole will enable us to detain families together throughout the proceeding, as they've done in previous administrations.
	I just like her.
	I just like how calm and collected she is.
	Her speech is a little annoying.
	I like her, too.
	I think she's...
	She's an old-school bureaucrat.
	She's been working for Bush.
	She's been around this.
	But she has European influences.
	That's nice.
	And can she deliver a line, though?
	I don't know if she can.
	If she can't joke, because I haven't heard her crack one joke ever.
	I don't think she's funny.
	Well, then she's no good as president.
	You gotta be funny.
	No, she can't make president.
	She's...
	She's not presentable in the right manner.
	She's got a nice smile, but she doesn't have the jokers, the smile of someone who's funny, who knows how to smile because they've got a one-liner coming.
	Right.
	No, you're right.
	She's disqualified.
	That's sad.
	I liked her a lot.
	Anyway, to wrap this up, I thought it was an interesting try.
	I actually had a quick hangout with a former New York banker who was like, this guy is unhinged and off the rails.
	I had to sit him a little bit straight on the topic at hand, but I totally agree that when Trump first responded to the outrage that was taking place, and he did an impromptu little stand-up there in the White House, It was this, that I think it's in some way, I don't know if he was planting the seed, if it was a feeble attempt at trying to change the narrative by throwing something crazy out there.
	Although for no agenda producers, not crazy, completely known, nothing that we don't know about since the reading of the most recent National Defense Authorization Act.
	Space Force!
	That's right, Space Force.
	He just threw that out there.
	Yeah, I have the clip if you want to play it.
	Yeah, I got a couple things, but yeah, what's your clip?
	Well, my clip is kind of the, it's not very long.
	This is new space troopers announced.
	Yes.
	President Trump outlined a plan today to ensure America's dominance in space, he said.
	He has directed the Pentagon to establish a new branch of the military, a space force.
	David Martin has more on this.
	Mm-hmm.
	This quarter billion dollar GPS satellite is indispensable to the way the American military fights and the rest of us live, from cell phones to ATMs.
	It costs another quarter billion to launch it into orbit.
	After that, it is controlled by a small team of airmen from a base in Colorado.
	They wear Air Force uniforms, but today President Trump decreed in the future they will become members of a separate space force.
	I'm here by directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary.
	To establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces.
	That's a big statement.
	You know, when Tina and I were watching that, and this is Tina.
	She's level-headed.
	You've met Tina.
	Yeah?
	She's level-headed.
	She's a regular round head, but okay, go on.
	Ah, jeez.
	See, now you've got to bring that into the...
	Now I'm going to have to spend, like, an hour telling her that the shape of her head is fine.
	Stop that.
	It is.
	It's fine.
	That's what I said.
	Not like a basketball.
	Just bear with me.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	And she hears this.
	She says, oh, that's just fine.
	That's it.
	The aliens are going to invade.
	This is it.
	And I've got to tell you, there was a note of seriousness in her voice that I had not detected on topics like this in the past.
	Well, I'm very compatico with her.
	I felt the same way.
	You know?
	I'm thinking of interdimensional beings.
	Now, the possibility is we're going to go in this direction, which I think is funny because you've read the Corso book.
	People should read that thing.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	It's possible we've been having...
	This battle's been going on for some time, and it just hasn't been formulized.
	Yeah.
	It's been, you know, secret divisions, you know, different...
	But the thing is, you know, it's like I've seen all the disclosure videos.
	You know, nothing surprises me.
	I am convinced, of course, we already have Israeli moon bases.
	Not we, but the Israelis have moon bases.
	No, fine, fine.
	Okay, you can laugh at me.
	We have satellites bumping other satellites out of orbit.
	There's definitely, we followed Space Wars for years, maybe the entire length of the show.
	So for me, you know, when all of a sudden there's, you know, U.S. Air Force video of tic-tac-looking spaceships flying around, I'm like, eh, it's what, you know, fine.
	I went to meet an alien one time.
	Disappointing trip.
	But, you know, to think that, A, we're alone, B, that they're not already among us is foolish.
	But, you know, somehow the combo of Trump and just the word Space Force and the way he says it, you know, it's like...
	Space Force!
	Space Force!
	She triggered it.
	She went, boink.
	That's it.
	They're coming.
	It would be the first new branch of the armed services since the Air Force was created in 1947.
	Less than a year ago, Secretary Mattis told Congress, I do not wish to add a separate service that would bring with it a whole new bureaucracy.
	See, this is what's so interesting, is that this was in the National Defense Authorization Act.
	It's cited by name, the Space Force.
	This is not new.
	It's not new.
	We read that.
	There's money appropriated for it.
	There have been all kinds of...
	I think it was four years ago there was talk of off-world soldiers, and it was in the NDAA, as far as I can recall.
	In fact, in March of this year, Trump was at the...
	Let's see, where was he?
	He was at the Marine Cadets...
	I guess, yeah, they were graduating the Marine Cadets...
	In San Diego.
	And here's what he said.
	My new national strategy for...
	March.
	Okay, March.
	Space recognizes that space is a warfighting domain.
	Just like the land, air, and sea.
	We may even have a Space Force develop another one.
	Space Force.
	We have the Air Force.
	We have the Space Force.
	We have the Army, the Navy.
	You know, I was saying it the other day because we're doing a tremendous amount of work in space.
	I said, maybe we need a new force.
	We'll call it the Space Force.
	And I was...
	I'm a genius, I tell you.
	Maybe we need a force in space.
	We'll call it Space Force.
	Space Force.
	Maybe we need a new force.
	We'll call it the Space Force.
	Space Force.
	And I was not really serious.
	And then I said, what a great idea.
	Maybe we'll have to do that.
	That could happen.
	So think of that.
	Space Force.
	Space Force.
	From the very beginning, many of our astronauts have been soldiers and sailors, airmen, coast guardsmen, and marines.
	And our service members will be vital to ensuring America continues to lead the way into the stars.
	We're going to lead the way in space.
	We're way, way behind.
	And we're catching up fast.
	So fast that nobody even believes it.
	Whoa, we're catching up fast.
	Here's the problem, though.
	Well, actually, it caught on.
	Here's his rally.
	Where was he yesterday?
	In Minnesota, I think?
	I don't remember.
	Oh!
	Our beautiful ancestors won two world wars, defeated fascism and communism, and put a man on the face of the moon.
	I think you saw the other day we're reopening NASA.
	We're going to be science going to space.
	Space force, space force, space force.
	Space Force!
	So we have the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marines, the Coast Guard.
	But we have the Air Force.
	Now we're going to have the Space Force.
	Now, the problem is, okay, the name has caught on and it's perfect, but technically, shouldn't they be called the Sparines?
	That would have been better.
	Well, I have a couple of thoughts on Mattis, because I think that the armed forces have, let's assume that we have aliens and that we captured these guys and we found the flying saucer and everything that was in the day after Roswell book.
	Yes.
	Which is written by a guy who is not insane.
	No.
	By any means.
	No.
	Is he still alive?
	Let's say half of it's true.
	Is he still alive?
	Yeah, well, I don't know.
	He may be dead by now.
	That's how it goes.
	No, but he wasn't killed.
	I mean, he was floating around giving lectures out of some of them.
	Someone sent me a couple.
	And he talks about the people who took charge of this whole operation, the whole alien thing.
	The Army.
	Right.
	Not the Air Force.
	Nope.
	The Army.
	That's why Mattis is pissed then.
	Well, Mattis is Marine.
	But I think he has more in common with the army guys, and that one army guy who goes out giving these lectures, a smart army head of the chief of staff of the army, I think they didn't want to relinquish it.
	And that's what Mattis is talking about.
	Another bureaucracy.
	We've got enough trouble with the Army doing all this work, but now we're going to have some new guys that are all going to have to be read in.
	Are we going to move the Army guys over to that?
	Doesn't make a lot of sense, but we're going to be asking questions.
	Why are the Army guys going over there?
	And you watch.
	There'll be Army guys going over there.
	The former New York banker, he's like, this is crazy!
	The guy's off his rocker!
	Bro, this was already approved by your Congress.
	I say bro.
	It was approved by your Congress in the National Defense Authorization Act.
	There's money appropriated for it.
	You know, this is not like a new thing.
	It's just unhinged.
	And he says, but there's this law against that!
	I said, well, that's not entirely true.
	There is something called the Outer Space Treaty, and everyone's on board with it.
	It is a legal framework, but it only bars parties to the treaty from placing weapons of mass destruction in Earth orbit.
	You can't install them on the moon or any other celestial body, but you can, or at least the treaty does not prohibit the placement of conventional weapons.
	So kinetic bombardment would be allowable, technically.
	I think a machine gun in space.
	Machine guns in space!
	Alright, 117.
	Perfect.
	Okay, good.
	We have an opening for the show, everybody.
	Space Force!
	Yes, it's beautiful.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C! C stands for cages are for kids.
	Dvorak!
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, machine guns in space, and all the days and nights out there.
	In the morning to the troll room, NoAgendaStream.com.
	Good to have you all here.
	Thank you.
	You've been very helpful this morning.
	It's appreciated.
	NoAgendaStream.com.
	And in the morning to Mark G. We have not seen Mark G. on the No Agenda Art Generator for a while.
	But he came in with a beaut.
	He has such a recognizable style.
	He's a pro, yes.
	And he had one of his...
	I would hang it if this shit, even with the writing on it...
	I mean, this is a poster.
	You could hang this on your wall.
	It's so pretty.
	It's a picture, his version of a rendering of North Korea with the beautiful round, you know, the half-moon beach with the palm trees on it.
	And it says, North Korea, come for the beaches, stay for the human rights violations.
	We should probably find some way that some of these artists who we hardly get in touch with Can make high-res, big versions so people can print out or take it to a reprographic shop or someplace and print out large poster-sized copies.
	They're square, but you could say, I would say maybe two feet by two feet would be a nice size.
	Be a nice size.
	Three feet by three feet?
	And a dynamite collectible.
	A total collectible.
	No, a dynamite collectible.
	Okay, dynamite.
	Well, today we got a lousy showing, because there was no gimmick, a lousy showing.
	Ah, a slight dig at your partner.
	Nice.
	Oh, did I say it?
	What did I say?
	You said because there was no gimmick.
	No, no.
	Because I complained.
	I complained.
	I was criticizing myself.
	Oh, okay.
	Richard Unterberger, $200.
	That's it.
	That's our associate executive producer, and he becomes executive producer by default.
	He actually gave $200, $222.22, but on here it's $200 because the other thing came in later so he can get a note in.
	It says, this is my second donation.
	It's totally worth it.
	Everyone who listens should support the show.
	He needs a dedouching.
	Oops, I didn't even have it ready.
	I was like, who needs anything for this segment?
	You've been de-douched.
	I want to give a shout-out to my amazing wife, Lori.
	Today, June 14th, Flag Day is her birthday.
	This came in after that.
	So if you could add her to the birthday list and hook her up with a...
	MILF jingle and some karma for our new house and second human resource on the way.
	That would be great.
	Happy birthday, Lori!
	She listens to the show on Sundays with me when we are working on the house, hanging out.
	It really spurs some great discussions about the news and current culture.
	Thank you very much for all the hard work you guys do putting into the show.
	That's one mother I'd like to.
	You've got karma.
	So he only becomes the executive producer for show as a lone executive producer for show 1044.
	All right.
	Well, thank you very much.
	We appreciate that.
	And sorry that there was the value network let us down a bit on this one.
	Big time.
	Ah, yes.
	Detractors rejoice.
	We're going broke.
	Yeah, detractors rejoice.
	Yes.
	Good work, everybody.
	Those guys.
	We finally got it.
	We finally did it.
	And you did.
	We will return on another show.
	And the next show will be on Sunday.
	Remember us at...
	And I think we have enough deconstruction for you to go out there today and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Got a couple of suggestions for my OTG phone comebacks.
	Thank you.
	Oh.
	You know, actually, I think I only have two.
	You know, you would say, I need some comebacks.
	When my Nokia E71 is on the table and someone goes, why do you have that?
	We need some writers out there to give you some good lines.
	It's a burner.
	I'm a drug dealer.
	Kind of like that one.
	Yeah, it's good.
	I got rid of it after I found out it was taking upskirt videos.
	That's okay.
	That's kind of okay.
	And I think the winner for today, and I'm open to more, is I'm downsizing!
	I think that one works the best right now.
	Think?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because all the kids are downsizing these days.
	All the kids are downsizing.
	How about this one?
	I got one for you.
	It's none of your business, creep.
	Yeah, that's great.
	It makes for great dinner conversation.
	It's nice in a restaurant when you do that to the help, who then spit in your food.
	They will do that, yes.
	I got an OTG, for those who don't know, is off the grid because I'm anti-tracking and pro-sanity.
	A note from Sir Peepslayer in the morning.
	I'm a licensed property manager here in Arizona.
	My wife and I also have investment houses that we rent out.
	Now, last year my wife found this great free program for managing our personal rentals.
	It rivals the one I pay for that I use for my business, and she was showing me some of the cool things it did.
	One thing in particular I noticed was that if an applicant for our credit check wanted to, they had the option to log into the program with Facebook.
	As soon as they do that, I can see their profiles.
	People used to laugh at me because I never had a Facebook, and I told friends that I guess it's the same way the NSA does it, then to screen potential renters.
	And I've come full circle, so now a Facebook profile can be tied to your personal credit information voluntarily.
	I doubt most applicants have considered the implication of this.
	Well, I tell you something.
	I've seen this kind of thing.
	And of course, not being a Facebook user, I get very annoyed by it.
	You go to some website, you have to be a member to get a special feature and say, would you like to sign in or get a new account?
	I'll take an account there because I want to see something.
	And it says, sign in with your Facebook.
	I don't want to sign it with my Facebook.
	I don't have a Facebook.
	So I just go and leave the site.
	I never get to do anything there.
	I find it extremely annoying that somebody offers this.
	And the fact that people actually do it, as our producer says, they're idiots.
	I think most people do that, and this was always the holy grail of Silicon Valley about 10 years ago.
	It's like, can we be the universal login?
	You know, they called it universal status, I guess.
	Status?
	Or presence.
	Presence, that's what it was.
	Presence.
	So you know if someone's present, if you're logged in, you're logged in all the time.
	And FaceBag pretty much got that.
	I have made that mistake in the past, for sure.
	They're like, oh, just click that.
	But now you know you're sending all these details off, and that's kind of the deal.
	That's why people put these logins on their site.
	So they can screw you.
	So let's go to, since you got this issue into Austin, I got this clip specifically for you.
	Okay.
	So you could take it to the city council.
	I'm excited.
	So you know what other people are doing in other areas.
	This is the scooter update in the Bay Area.
	A new transportation craze is sparking new government oversight.
	San Francisco recently removed all rented motorized scooters until lawmakers approved a permitting process.
	Now San Jose is following suit and KTVU's Jesse Gehry has our report.
	Midday in San Jose, sees pedestrians using the new way to get from here to there, riding motorized scooters.
	It was fun.
	I've never tried it before.
	They're not in my town, so I just wanted to give it a try.
	A smartphone unlocks the scooters and the user is charged by the mile and amount of time.
	In the ever-increasing search to avoid vehicular gridlock, this seemed like a eureka moment.
	But bad press due to bad actors have put the devices in a bad light.
	Too many of the scooters are being ridden on the sidewalks by helmetless riders weaving in and out.
	And the scooters are being left in places, some of them block building entrances and ADA ramps and the such.
	Those complaints have reached San Jose City Hall, where leaders are taking a page from San Francisco's playbook, considering regulating scooter use.
	An overall limit on how many scooters can be deployed here in San Jose, very clear regulations on where they can and cannot be parked, and also an equity clause to make sure that our low-income residents can afford this system.
	Late Wednesday, Scott Meese of the San Jose Downtown Association penned an op-ed saying the low-cost efficiency of the scooters must be balanced against public safety.
	Some users agree.
	If people are being stupid with them, they shouldn't be able to use them, you know?
	City Transportation Department officials will gather scooter companies together outside City Hall Thursday afternoon at 4.30 for a public demonstration.
	And then at 6.30 inside City Hall, a town hall-style meeting to see what people want regulated and how.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's going to happen here in Austin.
	And it was interesting.
	I know you saw the email thread with one of our producers who was a bike safety officer.
	And he got really bent out of shape when I was talking about the Bird bike, which is actually a scooter.
	And he thought I was calling for people to die on bicycles.
	And I'm pro-bicycle, but I'm anti the way it's being implemented because you can't just throw in a bunch of bike paths and say, God, now it works because I grew up in a country that took a century of biking.
	For it really to work in traffic.
	It takes a lot more than just a bike path and say you're done.
	Yeah, the bike path's a joke.
	You have all kinds of educational things.
	I mean, you need a lot.
	It takes hundreds of millions of dollars.
	The bike path in the United States is a joke.
	It screws up everything.
	It's poorly implemented.
	Nobody uses them, especially around here.
	I mean, they've got a lot of bicycle guys, but there's not that many.
	Of course, I saw that letter, too.
	He condemned me and wouldn't address anything I had to say, which is all this negative stuff, which is, you know, you go in a line.
	I almost the other day almost ran into some guy going, I don't know, max speed on a bike.
	Let me just move beyond that because the bike argument is, you know, people are for or against.
	It doesn't matter.
	More importantly, you made a call out on the show how to steal these scooters.
	And I got some information from one of our producers who is very knowledgeable on the subject.
	He is a bird bike collector, so he gets them at night and he charges them and repairs them.
	And he probably knows more about bird bikes than anybody at this point.
	So here are your options.
	You have, I think, the fun way to go, because, you know, when you pick up the bird bike and you haven't scanned the QR code, it starts emitting a beeping tone and its lights start flashing.
	In a way, a pathetic algo going, I'm being stolen!
	I'm being stolen!
	Which, of course, gives a crap.
	No one cares what you're doing on the street.
	What you need is one of those little battery-powered electric drills.
	I'm not talking about the big Black& Decker, but one of those hand jobbies that's basically just a staff, a tube with a drill bit at the end.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Yeah, I know.
	Place that right in the middle of the box on the top of the bird bike.
	Drill down, you will disable the whole thing.
	And when I say the whole thing, what you're only disabling is the GPS, the warning, and of course, right in the middle, just whoop, and it will die.
	That's his Achilles heel.
	You get a $50 board, which, oh, I'll put it in the show notes with a link.
	You can buy it off of eBay for sure.
	$50 board.
	You just open the unit up, plug that in, bypasses all of the bird brain guts, and you got yourself a $50 scooter, electric scooter, paint job, and you're good to go.
	Dynamite.
	Isn't that great?
	Now, we're not supposed to be encouraging this sort of thing on the show.
	I don't know if it's even legal to do so.
	We are just telling people not to do this, but this is how you would if you had to.
	Yes, if you were forced.
	But don't do it, people.
	No, don't.
	Do not do this.
	Not do it, but if you for some reason, brother, it could be a revolution.
	What happens if the society collapses and there's all these stupid bikes around?
	You need to be able to grab one.
	You need to be able to grab one.
	So order some boards.
	Order some boards up front, people.
	Order some boards.
	Yeah.
	Okay, a couple more OTG things.
	Actually, I'm going to skip the World Health Organization.
	I think we did this story, but for some reason it popped up again on NPR. The World Health Organization is recognizing gaming disorders and mental health condition.
	I'm going to skip that.
	This is a new version of the story.
	Okay.
	I have a clip.
	Okay, let's play your clip then.
	Okay.
	It's a backgrounder clip.
	This is one of the short, I think it's short PBS. Now, CBS? Yeah, CBS. Video games can be addictive.
	That is not an exaggeration.
	Today, the World Health Organization classified what's called gaming disorder as a mental health condition.
	Here's Jamie Ucas.
	The seven-year study by the World Health Organization reveals that some gamers get the same brain stimulation or high as those addicted to drugs and alcohol.
	Omar Blackburn couldn't handle a job, home or car because of his constant impulse to play.
	If I constantly just always have my mind on it, I'm just always going to want to be doing that.
	Sully Zack says he's not an addict, but he can't remember how young he was when he started playing video games.
	I was probably four or five years old when I was old enough to actually get my hands around the controller.
	Now 19, he spends hours a day on gaming systems.
	If I'm hanging out with a friend who also really loves games, we might just have a marathon and play for like eight hours.
	Do you have to be conscious about taking a break or getting up from the video game?
	It is difficult sometimes, yeah.
	From difficult to compulsion, that fine line has the World Health Organization now defining gaming addiction, saying if people have impaired control over gaming, give it priority over other activities, and there is a continuation or escalation of gaming despite negative consequences, they could have a mental health condition.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	Yes, gaming is just as addictive as Oreos is the logical mathematical calculation there.
	And every report that I saw...
	Well, it's a mental disorder.
	Mentos would give them drugs.
	Oh, by the way, I wrote this down.
	I forgot to bring it up because I said I believe that the kids in cages thing will continue.
	I know what the next topic will be.
	They're drugging these kids.
	That's what the next outrage will be.
	They're drugging the kids.
	I believe they are, aren't they?
	I hope so.
	No, I think there was a report that they are joking.
	Yes, that's what I'm saying.
	But this is going to be the report.
	Of course, I'm joking about it.
	I hope so.
	But this is going to...
	No, I hope so.
	Here's the problem with it.
	I like the thesis, but I can tell you what the problem is.
	Pharmaceutical industry.
	I was waiting for you to say something.
	Pharmaceutical industry.
	Yeah, they can't discuss it.
	They can't offend the pharmaceutical industry.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	I'm stupid.
	You're right.
	Back to the addiction.
	Every report that I read or saw or heard had the, and this kind of had it in there, like, these guys, they're so into the gaming, they don't even get up to go to the bathroom.
	That's kind of what they alluded to in that report, but that was a big, that's the big, the lead, if you will, or the sub-lead.
	It's like, oh, they won't even get up to go to the bathroom!
	It's just so horrible.
	But the addiction, and I'm going to try and do a real long callback, and I didn't write much of this down, so you're going to have to help me out, but you're familiar with the topic.
	But first we get into Jaron Lanier, who to some female journos in Silicon Valley, they worship him.
	He got on The View.
	Do you have the clips?
	No, I don't have The View.
	I have him on Channel 4 in the UK, which I thought was better.
	Okay.
	And just three short clips, and it is about addiction and social networks and smartphones.
	Is there a principal reason why I should delete my social media?
	And if so, what is it?
	You know, I'm sorry.
	We should probably explain who Jared Lanier...
	Lanier?
	Is that how you say it?
	Do you want to explain who he is?
	Because you're from the neck of the woods.
	He's been around here.
	The Bay Area is a local.
	And he is the guy who popularized himself by inventing some...
	This is in the 70s, 80s probably.
	Some hands, some robotic-like hands where you could stick your...
	Your hand into these gloves, these famous VR gloves.
	And then you can now do VR. You can do fancy stuff with the VR program, virtual reality program, and the gloves.
	Wasn't it the Nintendo glove at the time that we all were hacking?
	Remember that?
	Yeah, the Nintendo glove.
	I don't remember if he was doing that or not.
	But I do know that he became the VR guru.
	And he would run into him quite often.
	I'd see him every so often.
	Right.
	But he's like Stallman.
	He's like a little bit antisocial.
	He wears his hair in long Rastafarian dreads.
	Cultural appropriation.
	Cultural appropriation.
	I always wear just kind of like a, generally speaking, I've never seen him without a green t-shirt and some just slack.
	He's a big man.
	He's like Jabba the Hutt big.
	He's a big, big bruiser.
	He's a linebacker size guy.
	Yeah.
	Probably.
	A little more than that.
	I don't know.
	No, I don't know.
	250, 260.
	If an ounce.
	And he tends to not bathe a lot.
	And it's quite noticeable.
	Okay.
	So here he is sitting down talking about the topic of social networks and iPhones and smartphones addiction.
	Is there a principal reason why I should delete my social media?
	And if so, what is it?
	There are two.
	One of them is for your own good, and the other is for society's good.
	For your own good, it's because you're being stuck.
	You got to back it up and start over.
	I didn't realize that he does sound, and I'm very jealous of this, he does sound a lot like comic book guy when he talks.
	Comic strip blogger?
	No, comic book guy.
	Oh, comic book guy from The Simpsons.
	Yes.
	So...
	He sounds like comic book guy.
	So looks kind of...
	He looks like comic book guy a little bit, so he doesn't have the...
	He's got the long dreads.
	He doesn't have the ponytail.
	He's got the long dreads.
	He smells.
	He smells.
	And, and, and, and, and, and, ladies, he's available.
	There are two.
	One of them is for your own good and the other is for society's good.
	For your own good, it's because you're being subtly manipulated by algorithms that are watching everything you do constantly and then sending you changes in your media feed, in your diet, that are calculated to adjust you slightly to the liking of some unseen advertiser.
	And so if you get off that, you can have a chance to experience a clearer view of yourself and your life.
	But then the reason for society might be even more important.
	Society has been gradually darkened by this scheme in which everyone is under surveillance all the time and everyone is under this mild version of behavior modification all the time.
	It's made people...
	Jittery and cranky.
	It's made teens especially depressed, which can be quite severe.
	But it's made our politics kind of unreal and strange, where we're not sure if elections are real anymore.
	We're not sure how much the Russians affected Brexit.
	We do know that it was a crankier affair than it might have been otherwise.
	What I like about him, as opposed to Stallman, is he speaks very coherently.
	And I like that he adapted his spiel for the location where he was.
	We took Russians and Brexit.
	So the guy is thinking, you know, he's smart.
	I've always thought he was a very smart guy.
	I just like what he has to say.
	Now let's talk about how...
	He puts it deep, what he does, he's not saying anything different than what we say.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	But he has the ability, he does make it succinct, and he has the style of authority that is very nice for television.
	Yes, he does.
	And even, he's interesting to look at, for sure.
	It's like, wow, and because he doesn't come across as nutty...
	And just cool, calm, and collected.
	Except for the dreads, right.
	But that also is part of his authoritative aura, you know?
	So how about it being bad for society?
	You say it's bad for me as an individual.
	Is it bad for me because I'm addicted?
	Have I become chemically hooked?
	You have.
	The founders of the great Silicon Valley spying empires like Facebook have publicly...
	The founders of the great Silicon Valley spying empire.
	Spying empires, plural.
	Yeah, that's a good line.
	I like that.
	Of the great Silicon Valley spying empires like Facebook have publicly declared that they intentionally included addictive schemes in their designs.
	Now, we have to say...
	This is what I would call almost a stealthy addiction.
	It's a statistical addiction.
	What it says is we will get the broad population to use the services a lot.
	We'll get them hooked through a scheme of rewards and punishment.
	And the rewards are when you're retweeted.
	The punishment is when you're treated badly by others online.
	And then within that, we'll very gradually start to leverage that to change them.
	So it's this very kind of stealthy manipulation of the population.
	So it's not as dramatic as a heroin addict or a gambling addict, but it is the same principle.
	Okay, again, very calm, cool, rational.
	Makes a lot of sense.
	And the obvious follow-up question is, okay, who's manipulating who and what's going on?
	But who's doing the manipulating?
	I mean, there isn't some master sort of wizard of oil sitting behind a screen, is there?
	Well, this is the peculiarity of the situation.
	The people who run the tech companies like Google and Facebook are not doing the manipulating.
	They're doing the addicting.
	But the manipulating, which rides on the back of the addicting, is the paying customer of such a company.
	Many of those customers are not at all bad influences.
	They might simply be trying to promote their cars or their perfumes or whatever.
	I have sympathy for them because they're concerned that if they don't put money into the system, nobody will know about them anymore.
	How is it different to just television advertising or billboard advertising or anything else?
	The difference is the constant feedback loop.
	So when you watch the television, the television isn't watching you.
	When you see the billboard, the billboard isn't seeing you.
	And vast numbers of people see the same thing on television and see the same billboard.
	When you use these new designs, social media, search, YouTube, when you see these things, you're being observed constantly and algorithms are taking that information and changing what you see next.
	And they're searching and searching and searching, and they're just blind robots.
	There's no evil genius here until they find those patterns, those little tricks that get you and make you change your behavior.
	So it was this interview, and I think probably in particular the part earlier where he spoke about the reward and punishment system of social media and smartphones in general, the interactions.
	What is he doing this tour for?
	Oh, you know, I don't even know.
	But it was in conjunction with a producer who reminded me of something we used to talk about.
	It's an experiment that was done in a classroom.
	Sadly, the author of this paper, which I've put in the show notes yet again, I used to do it once a year, and it's been several years since we brought this up.
	It was written in 1998, so you have to take that into mind, but I'm going to bring it into a 2018 version.
	I'm going to try.
	It was called the Zen TV Experiment.
	You recall this, John?
	I vaguely remember.
	You've talked about it before.
	Right.
	And really, you have to read the entire paper to really appreciate what went into it.
	But it was a teacher who, in his class, did an experiment with his kids with television.
	At the time, the internet was coming, and we had the dot-com bubble, but it was still TV. It was really, really the prevalent delivery method for entertainment and commercialism.
	I'm going to interrupt you for a quick second.
	The book is called The Arguments That You Should Delete All Your Social Media Accounts Right Now by Jared Lanier just came out.
	Hence the first question of the interview.
	Makes nothing but sense.
	Thank you.
	I've got to get that.
	I don't want to read what he has to say.
	I don't think it'll be anything new, but I'm interested.
	So this teacher did the experiment with this class, and he wanted them to create a paper which would be four arguments for the elimination of television.
	And he said, you need to do these three experiments, and then we'll talk about it in the next class.
	And the first experiment was watch any TV show for 15 minutes with the sound off.
	The second one was watch any news program for 15 minutes with the sound off.
	And then the third, and he implored, he said, you really have to do all these experiments and the timing is important.
	So we had 15 minutes of just a TV show with the sound off, 15 minutes with a news program with the sound off, and then he asked them to watch the television for 30 minutes with the entire television being off.
	And a couple of things became apparent in the discussion that ensued.
	The children were outraged.
	For obvious reasons, they were outraged.
	They were made to sit in front of a black screen, a box essentially, for 30 minutes without anything coming out.
	They thought it was stupid.
	You wasted my time with this.
	This is nuts.
	Of course, after some discussion, they all realized that they probably waste their time.
	30 minutes is wasted all kinds of places in the day.
	But the conclusion is that if this thing does not entertain you, then you get pissed off at it.
	So without the sound on, it's annoying on a TV show.
	Without the sound on a news program, it's annoying.
	But man, it's really annoying when it's just a box because we are transformed into...
	And this is not new.
	We are transformed into an alpha state when we're watching television.
	And that was the second part of his conclusion is...
	He made all the kids, part of the experiment, he made all the kids count the technical events during any television program and any news program.
	And technical events are a zoom, that's a technical event.
	It's not something that you could, your eyes don't zoom in in real life.
	Your eyes, you don't also jump from one side of the person to the other while you're listening to them speak.
	That is all technical events.
	Something is being built, and you are creating the bridge in your mind.
	You think you're calmly watching television, but you're not.
	Your mind is racing and is creating all the images you need between those shots, between the zooms, between the interior, then we're exterior, we're at the airport, we're in a different country.
	Your mind is building that story.
	And we've been trained, older people more than young, but they have different issues.
	We've been trained to go into this alpha state, and we are people of storytellers.
	We love a story, and stories is how everything is communicated.
	Look how the kid's in cages.
	You build a story, you promote the story, and people fill in all of the blanks.
	So this is a fantastic state for you to be in for advertising, particularly if it's a little bit coordinated with whatever you're watching.
	Almost as an aside, what is interesting about television news, if you're talking about the talking heads on the news channel, there are very few technical events.
	Sure, they go to a videotape and then there's someone standing up there and then they switch to a package and, But it's intentionally done that way because then it feels more real.
	Oh, this is reality.
	This is not some show that I'm watching where I'm bouncing around.
	This is a reality taking place.
	I better pay attention.
	The world is, in essence, condensed down to almost no technical events.
	But you're still building these stories.
	So that's the essence of that experiment.
	But what I've been noticing, and with women in particular, Instagram.
	And it started with Tina, and she, you know, she scrolls through her Instagram and her iPad, and I say, oh, who's that?
	Yeah, because I'm seeing, like, some dude.
	Like, who's that dude that you're following on Instagram?
	Who's that hottie girl you're following on Instagram?
	I say, oh, no, this guy, his family, and they've got a kid, and the kid is doing this, and, you know, she has this entire story built, and she follows...
	These people's lives, based upon pictures, which we all know, of course, you know, that she knows it too, I mean, on an intellectual level, these pictures, and I'm not singling her out, I think this is really why Instagram is so incredibly popular.
	Just based upon pictures which are, you know, ginned up, posed, filtered, etc.
	Looks fantastic.
	Her mind is creating the story.
	Now, you know, the guy who has, you know, the kid and it's great and they just got a puppy and everything.
	He may be beating his wife behind the scenes.
	We don't know because, no, seriously, she's building a story.
	And it's not celebrities.
	It really isn't.
	It's, you know, someone who does yoga, someone who cooks in a certain way.
	You know, they follow the hashtags, but they build these stories in their minds.
	And that's where we are today.
	And we're very feeble.
	We're not really all that great at it just yet.
	But the alpha state that in this experiment, in the Zen TV experiment you're in, when you're watching television, that is the same state you are in when you're looking at your phone, your smartphone.
	And that is why people look like zombies.
	When you're watching TV with the family or your friends...
	No borders, no nations, no friends.
	If you have any left, look to the left and the right while you're watching something on television.
	It is the same look people have when they're looking at their phones.
	But the stories, the gaps, video really, it works, but it's really not working as well as the singular pictures.
	And we are building these narratives in our mind in between all of the pictures.
	So when you get these little elements, kids crying, it's not even a picture, it's just audio, kids crying, you see cage, you see all these different things.
	The narrative that is built in your mind when you're in that alpha state, that is what's being manipulated.
	And it's being done very, sometimes not even that subtly, but we are shit at it.
	We don't know how to control our thoughts.
	It is so easy to manipulate people in that moment.
	And that is where I think we're in a very dangerous place.
	Because we're not aware of what's happening.
	We are literally in a trance when we are on social media and interacting in a social context on our smartphones.
	So we need to come up with a new version of the Zen phone experiment or something so we can help people understand exactly what's going on.
	It's also great, you know, if we were smart enough, we could figure out how to really manipulate people into listening to this show.
	I think that's the direction we should go.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	I'd like to use this knowledge to do that.
	I want to save you!
	I want to save mankind!
	No.
	There's not a lot of difference between the babies crying in that audio clip and the old time radio where there was a theater of the mind and you do the same thing.
	This is not a new phenomenon.
	No, no, no.
	But what's new?
	No, no.
	But hold on before we go there.
	What's new is our...
	If it's not entertaining you, you're pissed off.
	So when you're looking at this phone, where's my fucking entertainment?
	I'm in my alpha state.
	I'm ready to be entertained.
	There's a funny meme.
	Oh, I'm entertained.
	What?
	Someone's saying something I don't like?
	You get pissed off.
	And this is where the binge culture comes from, too, John.
	Like, cereal.
	This is a perfect example.
	We want to hear a story.
	We've been trained into listening and believing stories.
	With the same words, you build two different movies in your head.
	Well, again, serial is a throwback to the 30s.
	Sure.
	Audio storytelling.
	It's just modernized, but it's the same thing.
	It's the theater of the mind.
	Again, I think this is something that we've been doing for a while, and people do like stories.
	It's a known fact among sales folk that That you really, your best way to selling someone is to do it through storytelling.
	Well, our own show.
	You come for the deconstruction.
	You stay for the stories, I'm sure.
	Could be.
	And I'm only pointing this out for the good, for the mental health of our own producers.
	I'm not trying to save the world.
	I'm not trying to save the world.
	No.
	Yes, but again, they do have these phones, they do watch television, and they do go into whatever state they go to.
	Alpha state.
	I personally don't get mad when I'm watching something that's not entertaining.
	I understand.
	The difference between the radio plays and television, which have been going on forever, is now everyone, the stories are rampant.
	There's many more stories.
	And people, this is why I still feel all these mergers, the content that people are creating for television, of course, there's always going to be a demand for that.
	But the real fun is people looking into these black mirrors, I'll just use it, And creating the story in their head.
	It's a modern phenomenon.
	It is different than anything we've seen before when it comes to just creating a story based upon images.
	In serialized fashion, actually, I should say.
	And it's not celebrities.
	It's not going to come from Hollywood, I don't think.
	Long term.
	This is not tomorrow, but long term.
	I disagree.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Because I think celebrities are designed for this, to maximize this, and to exploit it more than normal people.
	And I think the celebrities will always be.
	If you just look at the numbers on Instagram, you look at the followers for any borderline.
	I've seen celebrities.
	If something irks me, I'm on Twitter.
	I'm going through, you know, I'm seeing somebody saying something, so I check them out.
	I never heard of this person.
	I don't know what she or he does.
	Usually it's often a she.
	She's all dolled up in her little photo there.
	And I look over and she's got 5 million followers.
	And so I look, what is she doing?
	She said, and she has something, she's an aerobic instructor or something.
	And it's, what is, and I see every once in a while, I go check around.
	I see another nouveau celebrity.
	They're celebrities and they're exploiting it.
	They're doing it on purpose because there are people that could be actual celebrities.
	I should have prefaced as mainstream celebrities, Hollywood celebrities.
	You're making my point for me.
	It's the yoga instructor that has...
	Yeah, but she's not just a yoga instructor.
	She's on YouTube.
	Yeah, but that's not a Hollywood celebrity.
	I don't see the difference.
	Okay.
	It doesn't matter.
	I just want to get that out.
	And then I will close out the OTG segment with a native ad.
	How about that?
	Not for us, but a native ad that I'm sure ran everywhere across the country.
	Smart speakers like Google Home and the Amazon Echo are everywhere.
	From the living room to the kitchen, they're the fastest growing electronic device on the market right now.
	Alexa, turn on the lights.
	And this morning, Amazon's Alexa is ready to go on vacation with you.
	Alexa, order me an ahi tuna salad.
	The online shopping giant revealing it will soon put Echo smart speakers in thousands of hotel rooms right next to your bed.
	Amazon is partnering with Marriott, Weston, Aloft, and St.
	Regis Hotels.
	You don't think that's an ad, do you?
	Together have more than one million hotel rooms around the world.
	This was the Today Show, I might point out.
	It's called Alexa for Hospitality.
	Alexa.
	What can I do around here?
	Guests can ask the smart speaker to order room service, call housekeeping, and make restaurant reservations without picking up the phone.
	Hold on a second.
	Stop.
	Play the whole thing out.
	I'll take notes and then I'll bitch later.
	No, go ahead, bitch.
	It's like, wait a minute.
	So instead of me dialing 42...
	Yes, room service.
	Hello.
	...and saying, I'd like to get a burger with...
	And they say, what kind of burger do you want?
	I want to...
	What kind do you want to...
	Rare, well done.
	They ask me questions because they want to get it a little right.
	Instead, I use the same wordage to Alexa and then leave it up to the what?
	The gods of chance that I get the right burger?
	Yeah.
	What idiot will do that when you can just do it?
	You still have to say the words.
	I'd like to order a burger and a glass of wine and some french fries and I'd need to do some this and that.
	You have to tell Alexa that.
	Why don't you just tell the, cut out the middleman!
	That's kind of, well, it's an ad, you know, but there's more creepiness to it than that, of course.
	Well, play the rest and I get one last complaint.
	Room service.
	Call housekeeping and make restaurant reservations without picking up the phone.
	It kind of shows that our world is evolving, so I think it would be a good idea.
	It's a really good idea.
	I think it'd be kind of weird in a hotel.
	We always have somebody listening, watching.
	It can be a little concerning.
	In response to customer worries, Amazon says hotel guests will choose whether they'll share a room with Alexa.
	Guests can ask for the Echo to be taken out of the room.
	The company also says hotels cannot access your voice recordings and no personal information needs to be shared with the Echo in order to use it.
	What should families know to take any precautions to protect their privacy?
	If they don't want the device to be listening to them, there is a button on it that they can use, you know, to silence it and to make sure it's not listening to you.
	This is the new world order, and these devices are going to follow us wherever we go now.
	I love that!
	This is the new world order, and these devices are going to follow us wherever we go.
	That's right.
	There is a button on it that they can use, you know, to silence it and to make sure it's not listening to you.
	This is the new world order, and these devices are going to follow us wherever we go now, if we're on vacation or maybe at the office or certainly at home.
	You thought the Bilderberg group was bad.
	So, Joe, a lot of us have one of these already in our houses.
	Is it kind of keeping a record of all the things we ask for?
	Kind of.
	Well, that's right.
	The Echo does record your commands and questions even in a hotel room.
	But Amazon is telling us that it will actually delete those at the end of every single day, even if you're staying multiple nights.
	But we've got Alexa on mute here, but I want to show you a little bit more of what she can do.
	We're going to unmute the button so she'll start listening here.
	Alexa.
	When's the pool open?
	The swimming pool is open from 6 a.m.
	to 11 p.m.
	Whoa!
	All right, so there you have it.
	You can answer a whole bunch of different questions.
	Yeah, and this is actually coming to a bunch of different Marriott and other hotel chains later this year, guys.
	Can you order room service?
	Yes, there's my room service.
	Yes, I can.
	Get some fries.
	Get some fries.
	This is great.
	Oh, it's a new old order.
	It's here!
	Alright, well here I got a story.
	So I decide I'm going to get an Alexis.
	So I get it shipped.
	It comes to the house.
	I put it up.
	I hook it up and do everything I need to get it all set up.
	And I say, Alexa, turn on the lights.
	Nothing happened.
	So I sent it back.
	Did that happen to you?
	I said to Alexa, turn on the lights.
	It didn't turn on anything.
	What good is it?
	It's bullcrap.
	This is bullcrap.
	You can't tell it to turn on the lights because it can't do it.
	You need to have all the light gear.
	What?
	You're too funny, man.
	You're funny.
	Anyway, before we go into our shortened break, I did want to tell you that I'm reaching singularity, bro.
	Oh, well, then play Grandma's House ISO. Okay.
	It involves a trip to Grandma's house.
	What is that?
	Go on.
	It involves a trip to Grandma's house.
	I'm reaching singularity.
	Yeah, it involves a trip to Grandma's house.
	I forgot to mention on the last show that I went to Costco.
	Remember we were talking about that?
	I would go to Costco.
	Yeah, yeah, Costco.
	Well, you hated Costco.
	Yep.
	To an extreme for no good reason.
	Because they wouldn't take your money.
	Yes.
	And I went to Costco.
	I had a very enjoyable experience with the crew there.
	I mainly enjoyed Tina dancing through the aisles.
	She's always wanted to go to Costco.
	She used to be a big Costco member.
	And I was there for the hearing aids.
	All right, you need a hearing aid.
	Well, I didn't know if I did, and I went to the...
	Everyone who emailed me, I got a couple of people saying, you really need to have a professional audiologist look at your ears or check you out, which Costco provides that, obviously.
	But everyone said Costco is the place to go.
	Costco hearing aids are the best, they're the cheapest, it's the way to go.
	But when I said, okay, I'd love to make an appointment to say, well, we don't have one until the end of July.
	Actually, yeah, like 26th of July.
	Okay, I'll take whatever you got.
	I said, but, you know, I can certainly get an audiologist report from somewhere else.
	No, no, no, we don't accept that.
	So flag number one, which I'll come back to later, I despise that.
	It's like opticians.
	They're always trying to trick you to take the glaucoma test.
	You don't need that.
	It's like, oh, you really need that.
	No, I don't.
	There's no law that says you've got to do that.
	Just give me some eyeglasses.
	I really don't like the rip-off.
	But, not only just for the show, but for myself as well, I made an appointment with the Texas Hearing Center, and I went to have my ears tested.
	With the audiologists.
	And the way the...
	I've learned a lot about this industry.
	Audiologists...
	Did you talk to the audiologists about this Costco thing where they demand that...
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Go on.
	Well, about the industry itself, audiologists are mainly women.
	And Dr.
	Amanda, I said, you know, why do I see women everywhere who are audiologists?
	She said, well, it's actually the perfect combination of, you know, you're not a medical doctor.
	It's like an optician.
	You do have to get certified for it.
	You take a test.
	You get a diploma to hang on the wall.
	But it's working with people, very flexible hours, and you make decent money.
	I'm like, okay.
	And a lot of women fit into that category, she says.
	I said, interesting.
	I talked about the Costco thing.
	I said, yeah, you'll learn a lot about prices.
	People are charging $5,000, $6,000, $7,000 for newfangled devices.
	Totally crap.
	And then we went into the little booth for my test.
	And I go through the whole thing with the warbles and can you hear these conversations and et cetera, et cetera.
	And I'd spoken with a doctor before.
	I said, my main thing is my headphones are super loud.
	They go to 11.
	I have an amplifier after the output just to crank it up even more.
	I have problem hearing.
	I'm always saying, what?
	I'm always saying, hey, what?
	Excuse me?
	Pardon me?
	Could you say that again?
	I'm sorry, Darren, I didn't hear you.
	And I'm annoyed by myself, and I hate to be in a situation at a certain point where I'm like, I didn't hear it, but I'll just ignore it.
	Yeah, the next thing you know, you'll be wearing a puffy shirt on some television show.
	Exactly.
	Ha!
	The frilly shirt.
	So it is, and it's not uncommon for people who have hearing issues to fall into isolation, depression, etc.
	And she said, oh, let me guess.
	Problem hearing female voices in children?
	I said, I don't know about children, but female voice?
	Yeah, it's in my girlfriend.
	I'm having a hard time hearing her.
	I said, well, that's the frequency range, etc.
	So we do the test.
	And then, you know, we sit down after the test.
	Here's what you do not want to hear your audiologist say.
	Oh, that's a tough loss.
	I'm like, what?
	That's a tough one.
	What are you talking about?
	Well, you have a genetic issue.
	Oh, it's a genetic issue.
	She says, look at your chart.
	And I'm looking at it right now.
	It goes from 250 hertz to 8 kilohertz.
	And she says, so it's really a half-moon dip from the 250, which is at the healthy level for a man of 20.
	Nice.
	It dips all the way down into the...
	It falls down immediately into this curve.
	Sounds like a bad microphone curve.
	It's the inverse of what you'd want.
	Actually...
	It's kind of how my EQ settings would be when I'm listening to the radio, where you have the highs up a little bit.
	Yeah, you have boosts in the middle all the time.
	I'm always...
	It's probably what accounts for the good sound you create.
	Yes, yes, and yes.
	Also, the high-end, 8 kilohertz, perfect, 20-year-old.
	She said, I don't know, because I explained.
	I said, look...
	When I was in the 80s, I started in radio, and I was working for the government station, and they had everyone's ears tested that was part of the government regulation for on-air presenters.
	And they said to me, bro, you keep this up, then you're going to be deaf, you're going to have problems later on.
	And I said, and here I am, and this is why I'm in your office, and I fully expect that's what happened.
	She said, no.
	It's very interesting.
	There's something in your genetic disposition that has protected the areas where most people run into trouble, the lows and the highs.
	So you have exactly the opposite, where the lows and the highs are fine, but your mids, everything from, I mean, right after, 300 hertz, boom, it goes down.
	It's 1,500 hertz down.
	It's flatlines, then 2,000 is a little up, a little dip, right in the middle of the spectrum.
	And then 3K, it's flatlined again, and then it starts to go up to the 8,000 hertz, and that's where it's perfect.
	He said, and what's happened now is, in general, people's hearing goes down with age, and the stuff that was already, because you would normally have kind of a flattish line, you know, all these frequencies register.
	But because they were already so low to begin with, Now they have dipped below where you can hear things properly.
	It says you're basically hearing lows and highs and you're losing the rest of the spectrum.
	And the reason why you have your headphones cranked so loud is because you then get those lows, those mids, they hit a level where you're registering them again.
	And what I enjoyed so much about this is an audiologist is someone who understands sound.
	I can talk to you about this.
	This is great.
	He says, but This is tough loss because hearing aids are not made for this particular issue.
	We're going to have to customize.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, but now, this is...
	Cha-ching!
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I will have to go to a multi-channel.
	In fact, I've had a demo unit since I did this.
	You have to go to a multi-channel, and she sets it up.
	So this has 15 channels, and these are all frequency ranges.
	Not only can you boost or decrease each individual channel, you can also set the compression.
	On each frequency.
	Compression.
	My middle name.
	Adam C. Curry.
	The C stands for compression.
	So we start tweaking this.
	And I am blown away.
	I don't want to take them off when I go to bed.
	It's like wearing my podcast rig 24 hours a day.
	It is phenomenal.
	It's also, you know, a guy who's kind of hearing everything for the first time.
	And, of course, now I want to go in and tweak everything.
	Oh, we have an app?
	And it's like, oh, yeah, bass, mid, treble.
	Thanks.
	That's not going to help.
	I need to get into the guts of this thing.
	And, I mean, it is fantastic.
	But I need to tweak stuff.
	For instance...
	I pee really loud, at least in my ears.
	It's like Niagara waterfall.
	It's just crazy.
	I hear the certain tones that just slam out at me, but man...
	Even if you don't have a hearing problem, the idea that you can customize...
	This is where the singularity comment comes from.
	You can customize it is an experience that I hope everyone has.
	I don't wish you hearing loss, but to be able to tweak this.
	So then I go looking around.
	I'm like, I need a program.
	So I have the ones that hook over your ear.
	They're quite small.
	Actually, the Widex is the ones that I'm testing out.
	W-I-D-E-X. So there's a little unit that goes behind the ear, and then there's a wire, and then the actual speaker unit is in your ear canal.
	And it's virtually invisible, especially the way my hair is.
	It's just the top of the ear, so you don't see it.
	But I want to be able to customize it.
	And of course, that software, and you have to have an induction loop, and there's all kinds of crazy ways to do it.
	That is only for audiologists.
	So I'm looking around, I'm experimenting.
	By the way, they also have Bluetooth.
	So if you play something that's Bluetooth connected, and the iPhone, which I don't want to carry around, It has a whole hearing aid section.
	And so if your iPhone is within reach and you press play, all of a sudden you hear the sound deep embedded in your ear.
	You never put headphones on or earphones on, and yet you can still hear the room sound.
	It's a very bizarre effect.
	But I go looking for how to program these things.
	And these devices, they don't cost more than $20 to make.
	Alibaba is filled with them.
	48 channels, all kinds.
	I mean, crazy.
	Of course, you have to order 10,000 of them, but they're looking at $3 to $5 at huge order numbers.
	This is a scam of epic proportions.
	She's looking at $2,800, which is much cheaper than multi-channels I've seen, but then I look at Costco, they've got 48 channels for $1,700, but they're making super bank on this.
	And I think it's just fascinating how, you know, the DSP has now been put in your ears and you can really, I mean, you can control each microphone individually.
	It has a little mini array on it and so you could be sitting in a restaurant.
	I just want to tune in to what's happening.
	I want bionic hearing is what I want.
	And I can tell you it is fantastic.
	I should have done this much, much earlier.
	And I am damaged, though.
	I am a damaged individual.
	I should start a Patreon because I have a genetic disposition.
	And it does not work with the headphones.
	I think that the idea of getting just a layman, not people with bad hearing, but what you suggest, which is getting a set of these and putting it in your ear, because kids love this stuff.
	I remember when I was a kid, they used to have shotgun mics and these big, the ones they use on the sports channels where you have a football game, there's a guy with this big, huge dish with a mic in the middle, and you can hear the quarterback grunting.
	But the idea of having these things in a restaurant and you're like a spook, I bet you they use these things.
	And you've got a conversation two tables down and you want to just tune into that?
	Yep, you tune in.
	Tune everything else out, you could probably do it.
	And now, last night...
	It's like, can we turn the TV up just a little bit?
	I mean, wow, did we go from one end of the spectrum to the other?
	People are like, eh, it's really loud, Adam.
	Could you turn the TV down just a little bit?
	You know, Elise is banging on the walls.
	They're like, it's too loud.
	And now they can't hear it, and I'm sitting there, just perfect.
	I hear it perfectly.
	Please, can we turn it up just a little bit?
	It's really a phenomenal experience.
	How long have you been having these things in your ear?
	I went Tuesday.
	Yeah, so Tuesday afternoon to this morning.
	And I've forgotten that they're on.
	And it has a cool little voice.
	If you long press the button behind your ear, it goes, party mode.
	Which is my favorite.
	You know, party mode.
	It has music mode.
	A little Google woman talking to you.
	You can also configure a different voice.
	But it's all one chip.
	It's all based on one chip or different versions of the chip.
	And that's just miniaturization.
	What specific chip are we talking about here?
	Maybe it's an investment opportunity.
	DSP chips are a dime a dozen.
	There's so many of them.
	When I was doing the Podcaster Pro, I learned all about this stuff.
	I know how to program them, too.
	And you can basically program them with Arduino code.
	But you've got to have the interfaces and all that stuff.
	And I've only just started researching, but I'd love to be able to find something that is not thousands of dollars that gives me complete control over, especially the compression in each individual channel.
	It's fascinating.
	Okay, well that's the end of our show today.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
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	Cyr in Seattle.
	$141.42.
	Then we have our buddy, Sir Donald Borowski, in Spokane Valley, 138.38.
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	Jamie Scott.
	Yes?
	Oh, he says, can a knight get some just send your cash karma for our ICO and jobs, jobs, jobs karma for a friend?
	Yeah, we'll put that at the end for sure.
	Jamie Scott in Plano, Texas, $111.11.
	Brian Weifels, $104.40.
	No jingles.
	I'm not going to get any.
	Julie Gregory in Albany, New York, $99.99.
	She sent a note in.
	It's right here, as you can tell.
	Let me get the glasses I dropped on the floor.
	All right.
	She sent a card, I believe.
	Yes, I give money.
	I have a request.
	Years ago, you aired a very funny vocal fry jingle.
	Please play it for me.
	Also, she needs a dedouching.
	Dedouching?
	Hey, dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	That's a very nice chord, but I don't remember that.
	Let me see.
	Vocal fry.
	I don't remember a jingle.
	Oh, well, yes, maybe it was this one.
	In the morning, this is Sir Jeff Smith saying, say no to vocal fry.
	The more you know, in the morning.
	And there's another one?
	In the morning, this is Sir Jeff Smith.
	Okay, that's without the music.
	And we have the podcast warning.
	We got a lot of different things.
	Try this.
	The following podcast may cause Vocal Fry.
	Listener discretion is advised.
	I've never heard that one.
	What do we do?
	I have to go change.
	We have the best producers.
	I don't remember that one.
	Google Fry.
	Okay, I think we've succeeded.
	I think he must have covered them all.
	Pretty much.
	Frank Pugh in Tallahassee, Florida.
	$75.
	Guys, thanks.
	Jonathan Reisman in Maplewood, Missouri.
	$73.
	Kilo Echo.
	Zero.
	India.
	Hotel Tango.
	He is K-E. That's what I just said.
	I just did that.
	Yeah, I'm trying to brag.
	K-E-Zero.
	Okay.
	Chris Engler, 7306.
	He's got a birthday.
	He should be on the birthday list.
	He is.
	Yes, he is.
	Alan Covado, the third in Midlothian, Virginia, 6789.
	Donald Napier, 6660.
	Cal...
	I think it's Kutemeier.
	I think that's how you pronounce that.
	Kutemeier, 5973 in Elk Grove Village.
	He actually sent something in.
	If you're Dutch, that's a pretty funny name.
	K-U-T-E-M-E-I-E-R. It's hard to explain.
	It's vile.
	Never mind.
	It's vile, huh?
	Kutemeier.
	He's also...
	He's not a member of the...
	It sounds like C-word whore.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	He's not a member of the Starfleet, but he did send a letterhead, which I think means we have to read it, from the Holiday Inn, Rolling Meadows, Schaumburg area.
	Boom.
	Chicago's ultimate holodome.
	Oh.
	What does that mean?
	I don't know.
	It sounds good.
	We should visit.
	He says, thanks for the great podcast.
	Just started listening.
	Just started listening.
	Went back to October 2016.
	Podcasts.
	For great infotainment.
	I need a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And he's got some requests you can take or leave later in the show.
	Missile launch, M-80, and a little girl, yay.
	73s!
	73s!
	Another hand is in the can.
	Cal, I think it's Kudemeier.
	Missile sound effect, yeah.
	Little girl, yay.
	Okay.
	And an M80, which I don't know if we have one.
	Of course we have an M80. You want M80? I give you M80. The hearing for a mannequin.
	No, not that one.
	Sorry.
	Fail, fail, fail.
	Epic fail.
	Yeah.
	Where am I? Oh, Dean Roker, 5510, double nickels on the dime from the Great Britain.
	Sir Aubrey of the Lower Arkansas in Texarkana, Arkansas, double nickels on the dime.
	Janetta Jansen in St.
	Cloud, Minnesota, 5220.
	Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington.
	There's a nightie coming up.
	He is on the night list.
	He's a new knight.
	He sent all this documentation in to prove it.
	And he sent a long typewritten note.
	And since this work comes to $1,030, I thought it would be worth reading some of it.
	This is Area 51 plus 38-cent donation.
	Completes my path to knighthood, which is not a destination, but merely a stop on our V4V journey.
	Blockchain accounting for knighthood enclosed.
	NJNK, no need for dedouching.
	I've been a grateful and faithful supporter of the V4V model, value for value.
	Every month since being hit in the mouth after seeing Adam on RT's Kaiser report.
	Oh, cool.
	How about that?
	It did work.
	It worked.
	Thank you very much.
	Chris, that's cool.
	I look forward to the ceremony.
	Coming right up.
	To say that my stumbling onto no agenda has been a blessing would be an understatement.
	Your keen no-nonsense approach to understanding what is popularly called the news has been a tonic for my mental health.
	I no longer give a rip what goes on the M5N, collusion or not.
	No to douchebags.
	Donate now, as we need to build a war chest to cover the added cause when Adam and John are doing the show from assisted living.
	What do you mean, when?
	As a helicopter pilot, I'd like to be known as Sir Chris Knight of the Vortex Ring State.
	Beautiful.
	Not that you ever want to be in that, but yes.
	Good one.
	Vortex Ring, also known as...
	He could have been Sir Settling with Power, but he wants Vortex Ring.
	That's good.
	So, that's Chris.
	Sir Eric VM, the Baronet of the Valley in Van Nuys, California, came in with a 5038.
	And he says his dad was cool.
	He didn't get to wish him a Happy Father's Day.
	Sir DH Slammer, 5038.
	Donald Ripple.
	We have Dame Bang Bang on the list, I hope.
	Dame Bang Bang, a list for what?
	Oh yes, she's on this birthday list.
	Yep, got it.
	I don't know, is all this details on there, or should you just say it?
	All I have is, happy birthday to Baronetta's Dame Bang Bang from Sir D.H. Slammer, Sir Andrew, Lady Simona, and Master Emmett.
	We'll do that again in the birthdays in a minute.
	Donald Ripple in Dresden, Ohio, $50.38.
	Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, $50.05.
	Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas, $50.
	These are $50 donors.
	Name and location for the few there are.
	Bad day.
	Bad day!
	Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan.
	Valerie Steensland.
	Ryan Kroos.
	Alexander D. Diamond in Abbotsford, B.C. Sir Other Brother in Norman, Oklahoma.
	Andrew Gusick in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	George Wushet, I guess.
	Universal City, Texas.
	And last, Thomas Dillon in Laverne, California.
	He's got a Happy Father's Day up there for...
	We do have a Happy Father's Day call out from Ryan Kruse.
	Happy Father's Day to our borderline father of the year, Tom Cruise, pronounced like the actor from Ryan, Angie, Silas, and Aubrey.
	Also, another Father's Day call-out from Sir Other Brother.
	Wishing you both, us two, a happy Father's Day, and keep up the great work you're doing.
	I depend on it.
	Okay, that should do it.
	That's it?
	No, we have Andrew.
	No more call-outs.
	Huh?
	No, but I have Andrew Gusek.
	Yeah.
	I don't have an Andrew Gusek.
	Oh, I have Andrew Gusek, Greensboro, North Carolina.
	I have $50.
	I have George Wuchet.
	Oh, no, I ran these guys.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I just backed up.
	Ah, my mistake.
	I was doing the birthdays, getting everything ready.
	Someone has to drive the train.
	I got Dylan, I got a Wuchet, and a Gusek.
	I was driving the train.
	I'm sorry.
	That's what happens.
	And I'm sorry about these donations.
	Are we doing something wrong is my question to you.
	Quick meeting.
	Oh, quick meeting.
	Well, let's have a, let's have a, let's ask people.
	We have people that...
	Oh, really?
	I don't, I do not, no, no, no.
	Because that's, really?
	You want to make my email box now horrible?
	No, I don't want that.
	AdamMcCurry.com.
	I think we do what people ask us to do.
	Well, I think so, too, but apparently they don't, maybe it's the, I know what it could be.
	Off the grid.
	They hate it.
	They hate off the grid so much.
	Even though it's useful information, they're so clinging to their devices like the Charlton Heston was clinging to his guns.
	So they're conflicted.
	Maybe, and they can't...
	And they're clinging so hard, if they go to write a check...
	Their hand is like, can't be done.
	Can't type anything.
	So, as usual, it's my fault, is what you're saying.
	Yes!
	Because of that stupid Nokia phone.
	Okay, well, I'll stop the off-the-grid segments then.
	No, no, no.
	You keep it going.
	I think it's important that people just have to knuckle it.
	They just have to listen to it.
	Especially the responses you get from the millennials.
	I'm killing the show, bro.
	If the show's going down, it's going down off the grid.
	Well, we do have other things to do, but not many.
	All right.
	Meetups.
	No Agenda Toronto meetup just before the Jordan B. Peterson event in Toronto, 5 o'clock July 19th at Biff's Bistro, right across from the show center.
	Hey, the No Agenda show we should listen to at least once.
	Yeah, get Jordan Peterson saying, I always listen to the No Agenda show.
	And have him do it with a British accent, too.
	That would be very funny.
	We also, I believe this may be one of the first, I could be wrong, we have an Israel meetup planned.
	Very good.
	I'm happy you guys are taking the Lost Connections advice and getting together.
	Sorry?
	Who's in charge of that, Brian?
	Yeah, Sir Brian of London, Tuesday, the 26th of June.
	So that's coming up.
	6 p.m.
	at, and this is one of my favorite, whenever I'm in Tel Aviv, I go to the Dancing Camel.
	The Dancing Camel?
	It's at Mossad headquarters.
	It's a strip club.
	I don't know.
	The Dancing Camel in Tel Aviv, Tuesday, June 26th, 6 p.m.
	Free speech event.
	And he says he will be talking, and Sir Brian will be talking about Tommy Robinson.
	But he says it'll be worth a no agenda.
	Oh, I guess he's already there talking about Tommy Robinson, and he wants people to come to.
	He's promoting his event.
	Now I get it.
	Well, meetup is good.
	If he can do that, too, it's fine.
	Yeah, but he's promoting his free speech event.
	That's okay.
	Well, Tom, yeah.
	It's Tommy Robinson.
	We don't cover it much on the show because it's been blacked out.
	Yeah, well...
	And there's something very fishy about it.
	Yeah, there's a lot of fishiness.
	But actually, Sir Brian of London does regular YouTube updates about Tommy Robinson.
	He's got a lot of inside scoops.
	It's very interesting.
	You can follow.
	I would defer to the knight from Israel.
	The knight from Tel Aviv for that.
	Yeah!
	That's right, another show, we hope, coming up on Sunday.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	You know.
	It's a birthday, birthday.
	Woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo.
	Yeah, before we find out what we know, we have a couple of birthdays to take care of.
	Sir Richard Unterburgers says happy birthday to his amazing wife, Lori.
	And, of course, that's belated.
	She celebrated on June 14th.
	Chris Engler turns 45 tomorrow, June 22nd.
	And Sir D.H. Slammer and the entire family say happy birthday to Dane Bang Bang.
	And, of course, we do as well.
	Happy birthday, Dane Bang Bang.
	And everybody from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Yes, it's better.
	We have one nighting.
	You wanted to say something?
	Yeah.
	I was thinking about this.
	Why was the donation so often?
	Eh, probably not the OTG. I know what it is.
	Okay.
	What's changed?
	It's not the OTG. You've been doing that forever.
	It's either my recorder playing, which I have not done recently.
	You know, this...
	Or, which is, that's the no agenda theme.
	No agenda.
	Or just a number of sound effects and noises that we make during the show.
	It's not as much.
	We don't hear the in the morning as often as we once did.
	Oh, that's an interesting point.
	Maybe we do need to do more.
	Now, play some recorder.
	Okay, let me hook up.
	This will fix it.
	This will fix it.
	Here we go.
	Okay.
	Yay.
	Well, that's a good test.
	It's just like a blues hit.
	Oh, yeah.
	We'll see how that does in the donations for Sunday.
	Genius, again.
	They're going to go way up.
	The brilliance and musical stylings of John C. Dvorak.
	Yes, the troll room says some of them are saying they are uncontrollably donating at the moment.
	It is paying off in spades.
	All right, grab your blade, man.
	We've got to get Chris taken care of here.
	I got it, I got it.
	Come on, Chris!
	Chris Dunberg, step on up.
	You, sir, have made it.
	You've made it to the round table of the No Agenda Knights and Dames.
	Happy to have another Whirlybird guy here in the house.
	I'm very proud to pronounce the K-U, Sir Chris, Knights of the Vortex Ring State.
	May you never be in the Vortex Ring State, but welcome to the roundtable for you, my friend.
	We have hookers and blow.
	We got rent boys, chardonnay, parliaments and pale ale, waifus and waffles, steel reserve and black niles.
	We got pog and poi, dame elise limoncello and salmon, breast milk and pavum, beer and blunts.
	We got redheads and ryes, gaishas and sake, bongheads and bourbon, sparkling siren escorts, ginger ale and gerbils.
	Oh, yes.
	And mutton and mead, especially for rotary friends.
	Go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Eric, the show will hook you up for sure.
	And thank you very much for your courage and supporting us in our value for value model.
	Tailwinds.
	Well, here's another thing for the social justice warriors.
	I want to get these clips out of the way.
	Play No Running Water 1.
	Okay.
	It involves a trip to Grandma's house.
	I'm planning to look into getting a porta potty or a porta outhouse.
	As for the shower and the bath, I can't really do anything unless I have a main water line until I have a septic service and all of that.
	But like I said, I can't get that.
	Due to a long waiting list, getting connected to the main waterline could take up to 15 years, and it will cost more than $12,000.
	Although Vicente works full-time, piped-in water is a luxury she cannot afford.
	For a long time, we've told those people, just wait, infrastructure will catch up with you.
	Well, infrastructure is not coming.
	And where was this?
	Well, that's the question.
	What third world country?
	Well, we're all concerned about babies being taken away from their mothers.
	What third world country is this taking place in?
	Oh, that's easy.
	New Jersey.
	Well, play the rest of it.
	George McGraw founded a group called Dig Deep that used to work on water projects in Africa, but is now directing its efforts to help some of the two million people in this country, like the Vicente family, who lack access to clean water and sanitation.
	When the backhoe is active, everyone needs to have a hard hat on.
	That includes 18,000 homes in the Navajo Nation.
	Wells are not an option for most homeowners.
	They're deep, expensive, and there's no guarantee of clean water.
	Wow, yeah.
	Wasn't quite New Jersey, but...
	Yeah, who cares?
	Who cares?
	We don't care about that.
	There's no votes there.
	Yeah, there's no votes.
	There's no votes.
	Yeah, there's nothing extra.
	No bennies.
	Who gives a crap?
	I'm not sorry to be distressing.
	Hey, did you hear Meghan Markle's dad?
	Oh, you know, I saw the headline.
	I saw there was like a clickbait headline about it.
	Yes, total clickbait.
	I've never...
	Yeah, clickbait.
	And I never clickbaited.
	I was still researching something else, and I forgot all about it until now that you mention it.
	All right.
	I'll clickbait you, and I'm going to pay it off right here.
	This is Meghan Markle, Markle's dad.
	They also apparently talked about American politics and President Trump.
	Our conversation was, I was complaining I didn't like Donald Trump.
	He said, give Donald Trump a chance.
	I sort of disagreed with that, but I still like Harry.
	That was his politics, I had my politics.
	Sounds like a rift in the family.
	And of course that is spun by Dementia as, He's a Trump supporter, he's all in, MAGA! Or in this case it would be MEGA. Well...
	Make England great again.
	Here's a Trump report.
	You know what I have?
	I'm not big on this Trump guy.
	We talk about him too much.
	Here's the Trump-California-Hungary report.
	And in the day's other news, the Trump administration urged a federal judge in Sacramento to block three California laws that protect undocumented immigrants.
	Among other things, the laws bar police from giving out information on people in jail and ban immigration officials from entering work sites without a warrant.
	The immigration issue is roiling the European Union as well, and today Hungary intensified its crackdown.
	Lawmakers there amended the Constitution to say what they call alien population cannot be settled in Hungary.
	The vote came on World Refugee Day.
	I like the timing.
	Timing is everything, isn't it?
	That's great.
	Get the Clooney clips ready, because I'd like to know, as we talk about, there's water needs, Navajos need water.
	There's all these issues going on in the country.
	None of these social justice warriors care much about.
	They'd rather be harassing that poor Kristen woman at the restaurant.
	And what about Clooney?
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction.
	Call Clooney.
	Yeah, really?
	Call Clooney.
	Oh, Clooney!
	Yeah!
	Where is Clooney?
	What's going on in South Sudan that Clooney should be fixing?
	Yeah, once he got married, it was all over with him.
	It was just done.
	Well...
	How about this one?
	Drunk or not drunk?
	Let's play the South Sudan clip first.
	Oh, you have a South Sudan clip.
	I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had it.
	Yeah!
	The civil war in South Sudan has created Africa's worst refugee crisis in a quarter century.
	Today, the president and the leader of the opposition met for the first time in nearly two years.
	The talks took place in nearby Ethiopia amid international efforts to negotiate an end to the five-year conflict.
	Oh, please.
	Unless there's children in cages, who cares?
	I just found that to be distressing.
	Not even to mention the Yemen stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, see, I had something...
	Here's my European clip for today.
	Uh...
	Junker.
	Jean-Claude Junker.
	Junker the Drunker.
	He was the drunker, not drunk?
	Yeah, I'm not going to do the jingle, because he's drunk.
	But he goes to Irish Parliament, government, I guess it's Parliament, and he has some speech.
	I'm sure it's some Euro-Raha BS. And he's drunk!
	But he plays it off as if he's not drunk.
	Best ever.
	Mr...
	Mr.
	Speaker.
	You see, he kind of wobbled onto the stage.
	You know, he had to get up on the podium and so he was like kind of wobbling a little bit because he's drunk.
	Mr.
	Speaker.
	I have some difficulties to walk.
	I'm not drunk.
	I have a sciatica.
	I would prefer to be drunk.
	So he says, I have sciatica.
	I'm not drunk.
	I would prefer to be drunk.
	Perfect.
	He would.
	He was.
	He likes to be drunk.
	It's just the way he is.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	As long as you don't try to run anything.
	But okay, he's doing that.
	And the National Academies are all on board with you, John.
	National Academies.
	What are the National Academies?
	They're a big deal, aren't they?
	The National Academies?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, they're a big deal.
	They're the National Academies.
	What are they?
	Who runs them?
	What is the National Academy?
	They're run by boards of directors.
	Okay.
	Is it a government thing?
	I don't know.
	Now you've got to make me look it up.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Well, that's okay.
	I should know this.
	You're right.
	It's just like you're making me look like a moron.
	No, I'm not trying.
	I'm not making you look like a moron.
	You're flute playing.
	That's what makes you look like a moron.
	No, the line is you missed the line.
	I'm not making it look like you're doing a fine job on your own.
	Ah, yes.
	I messed it up.
	I'm sorry.
	While you're looking that up, this is a report.
	It's their own video from the National Academies.
	Hashtag Science2.
	As a country, we have woken up to the ways women's lives are impacted by sexual harassment.
	The time has come to focus on academic institutions, especially in male-dominated fields like science, engineering, and medicine.
	Together, we can do better by creating a climate that discourages all forms of sexual harassment, including sexual coercion, unwanted sexual attention, and gender harassment.
	Research shows that we must do more than attend occasional training sessions and review vague policies and procedures.
	Here is what we need to do.
	One, integrate values into the system.
	Policies and procedures must embody the institutional values of diversity, inclusion, and respect, especially for hiring, promotion, and tenured decision-making.
	Two, change the power dynamics.
	With funding, research focus, and professional reputation wrapped up in a single advisor-trainee relationship, the potential for abuse is too high.
	Institutions need to diffuse these dependencies by encouraging advisor networks and provide independent funding so students and trainees have options.
	Three, support targets of sexual harassment.
	Many women don't report sexual harassment because they fear it will hurt them in their careers.
	And it does.
	Institutions must do more to support targets by providing alternative ways to access support services, record information about an incident, and report an incident without fear of retaliation.
	4.
	Improve transparency and accountability.
	While still respecting people's privacy, institutions need to make their communities aware of the consequences sexual harassers will face and demonstrate that the institution investigates incidents and holds people accountable.
	Now is the time for institutions to take action.
	We can prevent sexual harassment.
	National Academies, and the National Academy of Science in particular is the first one, was established in 1863 by an act of Congress signed by President Lincoln as a private, non-governmental institution to advise the nation on issues related to science and technology.
	Members are elected by their peers for outstanding contributions to research.
	Marsha McNutt.
	Who I believe is a Democrat, is the president.
	And then you have the National Academy of Engineering and the National Academy of Medicine all together.
	They formed the National Academies Bureau, which is what we're dealing with here.
	This NGO, this government-approved NGO, looks like a propaganda operation to me.
	Well, this is the going after science.
	Science and academics.
	And they're going after them.
	Well, going after the men.
	Oh yeah, they're going after the men.
	What do you mean they're going after them?
	War on men.
	War on men.
	I love that it was science, engineering, and medicine.
	I thought it was going to be STEM, you know?
	Science, engineering, and STEM. That's not a good one.
	How about science, engineering, medicine, electronics, and networking?
	That would be a better acronym.
	But who am I? I have two more clips.
	You got anything you want to get out of the way?
	Well, let's see what we got.
	I got a lot of clips.
	Also, I should mention two things.
	One, European Parliament has approved to go to vote on the copyright bill.
	So that's moving forward where everything has to be pre-filtered.
	You can't use anything.
	There's a link tax for news organizations.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	These people are so dumb.
	They are out of control.
	It's completely unenforceable and stupid.
	And it's just dumb.
	And it looks like Hagstruck again.
	The Hillary assassination group.
	Who did they kill?
	FBI agent David Rayner in an apparent murder-suicide, my favorite.
	Upon arrival, police found David Rayner with multiple stab wounds and an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.
	Donna Fisher was found with apparent stab wounds.
	Both were pronounced dead at the scene.
	That is an obvious murder-suicide.
	Which has got to do with Clinton.
	Oh, because you didn't let me finish to it.
	He was expected to testify about Hillary Clinton's dealings in the Obama administration helping to cover up the Fast and Furious scandal.
	So just before he testifies...
	Now, I don't have 100% verifiable proof.
	People like to write that.
	Guy in Haiti about to testify about the children being abused by the Clintons.
	Died!
	Say suicide!
	I don't know, but regardless, an FBI agent in that type of violent murder-suicide is noteworthy, and we haven't seen much about it.
	No, of course not.
	If anything.
	Mandalay Bay.
	The hotel where Steven Paddock was the shooter, the Vegas massacre.
	Water main bursts and thousands of gallons of water rushing through the ceiling into the lobby.
	Yeah.
	Sounds a good way to cover up some evidence if there was anything that needed covering up.
	Yeah, that would do it.
	Definitely an issue.
	And I had a question.
	I don't really have World Cup fever because there's just too much stuff going on.
	World Cup fever?
	Is the UK still in?
	I think they are.
	I think they won some match they weren't expected to win.
	I'm looking at the troll room if they're still in because from a geopolitical standpoint, it would be very interesting to have a Brexit final.
	Ooh.
	Right?
	Yes.
	So we could have the UK. Now, I was thinking initially UK-Russia, but that's just ridiculous.
	No, that's not Brexit.
	No, it's not.
	It's not.
	So Russia's will get kicked out.
	Germany's not eliminated yet, so it could be UK-Germany-UK-France.
	I mean, England-Germany, are you kidding me?
	I would have the fever for that.
	That would be the quintessential Brexit match.
	Yeah, and you know who'd win.
	Yeah, Germany, of course.
	Of course.
	We know how that, well, der Mannschaft are not to be, are forced to be reckoned with, but still, that would be beautiful.
	I would, if I was programming this thing, and someone is, I would go with that route.
	Okay, well, I got one more clip that I can play.
	I got a couple clips, but they can be moved.
	But I do want to play this one.
	Oh, I guess you have two.
	Let's play the two clips.
	I got one, which is the electrification of Norway's very interesting clip.
	It's like they're really thinking that we can have passenger flights, passenger planes.
	Oh, everything's going to be battery operated?
	Yeah.
	Fantastic.
	A new battery-powered plane has taken to the skies over Norway.
	Oh, do they report in this one the battery-powered plane that just crashed and killed its two occupants?
	No.
	Oh, gee, of course not.
	As part of the nation's bid to tackle climate change and air pollution, our environment analyst Roger Harabin has been to Norway to find out more.
	Flying.
	The worst thing you're likely to do for the climate.
	All those CO2 emissions.
	Is this an answer in Norway?
	The pollution-free plane, powered by batteries.
	Getting into this thing is a feat of...
	Human origami.
	She's tiny, but bigger electric planes are coming as technology improves.
	They're quiet with no exhaust.
	Norway aims to have all its short-haul flights battery-powered by 2040.
	Norway's boats are going electric too as part of the battle against climate change.
	This battery-powered boat is faster than a normal ferry.
	With two big advantages.
	No exhaust, no noise.
	The batteries are hidden below decks.
	In future, all Norway's ferries will look like this.
	Norway's also subsidising electric cars.
	It's cheaper to buy, to run and to maintain, and it's good for the environment.
	No conventional cars will be sold in the country after 2025.
	That's way sooner than the 2040 date proposed by countries like France and the UK. So are Norwegians environmental saints?
	No, they're not.
	In winter, they fly long haul for the sun.
	And they're rich from oil and gas.
	But the lead Norway setting on electric transport is creating a real buzz.
	Roger Harriman, BBC News, Oslo.
	I don't know if it was really that interesting.
	Well, a couple of things.
	Probably it's better to watch it.
	A couple of things.
	This woman, she just bought the electric cars.
	She says they're cheaper to buy, to run, and to maintain.
	But just a couple of sentences before that said that they were subsidized by the government.
	Yeah, they're cheaper to buy than getting them for free.
	Yeah.
	The whole thing is a scam.
	Okay, well, this is interesting.
	This is the drinking and cancer clip, and then I'm done.
	News tonight about alcohol and cancer.
	A new study shows that the risk of cancer is actually lowest in light drinkers.
	People who consume between one and five drinks per week, the risk is actually lower than those who rarely or never drink at all.
	Oh, man.
	Now what?
	My ears are shot.
	My eyes are shot.
	I'm going to get cancer.
	You drink?
	Ah, barely.
	Barely, barely.
	You don't have a collection of stuff to drink.
	No, I don't have.
	No, it's true.
	Whenever I collect stuff, I drink it all.
	All right, you can choose.
	I have a kind of funny Obama clip or a Tucker Carlson being a douchebag while someone is saying interesting clip.
	Let's go with Obama.
	Okay.
	This is from Discovery.
	It's a podcast, which is always our favorite.
	Who owns Discovery?
	I remember a while back they were buying up a lot of stuff.
	It's a private company.
	It's a traded stock.
	So it's a public company.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Unless somebody else owns it.
	Could be.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Oh, yes, I remember now.
	Yeah, Discovery.
	They have a big, they do a lot of reports and stuff for the government.
	It's not pertinent to this clip, but they have a podcast.
	I think they bought a podcast company.
	Didn't they buy, what's his face, his podcast company?
	I have no idea.
	Discovery or someone bought it.
	This is the podcast Discover Science, and there was an interesting experiment that was done, and for this to be discovery was what made it that much funnier to me, with sheep and President Obama.
	Just a couple of months ago, results were announced from a facial recognition study involving Barack Obama.
	Good evening, everybody.
	And some sheep.
	And by the way, I didn't edit that.
	That's the way their podcast is put together, which I think is...
	Yeah, I'm assuming you didn't sweeten it.
	It's snappy, though.
	I like it.
	Just a couple of months ago, results were announced from a facial recognition study involving Barack Obama...
	Good evening, everybody.
	...and some sheep.
	And this is the lead researcher, neuroscientist Francisca Knoll from the University of Cambridge.
	One of our sheep would be called in and it would then enter a corridor that leads to two screens.
	And on those two screens, two pictures would be coming up.
	So, for example, Barack Obama.
	Do you all look great?
	Versus a completely unfamiliar and unrepeated face.
	And the sheep would have to make a decision whether to go to the left screen or to the right screen.
	The sheep made their choice by touching the screen with their nose, and if they chose a celebrity face such as Barack Obama, the clever sheep would be rewarded with a tasty treat.
	Yes, we can.
	At the time where we were designing the study, Obama was always in the news and we really liked him and we really hoped that our sheep would be clever enough to pick him.
	And they were.
	Yeah, they were.
	So we were very pleased with them.
	How quick were the sheep to recognise Barack Obama against someone else?
	They were really quick, actually.
	So they landed within four days of training.
	Did this come as a bit of a surprise?
	Did you expect sheep to be this good at it?
	Yes, we were definitely surprised that they would pick it up that quickly.
	Although this group of sheep that we used is a highly trained group of sheep.
	And we've done quite a lot of cognitive tests with them already.
	So we actually knew that they are really smart and they're really keen to learn new things.
	And honestly speaking, they're really greedy and they just want to get the food.
	And that's why I think they're responding in such large numbers.
	Hold on a minute.
	A highly trained group of sheep?
	What, sort of like sheep ninjas?
	Yes, like sheep ninjas.
	No, not like that.
	That's annoying me now.
	I just thought it was interesting that the sheep would go to Obama.
	There was something poetic about it.
	Well, sheep can do facial recognition like most animals.
	Of course they can.
	And the ones that are really annoying are the crows.
	Crows are smart animals.
	They're very smart.
	You get on a bad side of a crow, a crow, you know, a crow you don't like in the backyard or some crow that's hanging around, and they tell all their buddies.
	And then the next thing you know, all the crows hate you.
	For Sunday's show, I'm going to move it once again.
	We do have the edutainment feedback, more of the Google taking over schools, and there's a lot of stuff left over from today.
	And who knows what will happen?
	It's a crazy time.
	Yep.
	Just make sure that if you're an alpha state, try to be aware of what you're doing.
	Play the jingle.
	John, John, John, hold on a second.
	What?
	What?
	Excuse me, Adam, but you know that douchebag with the spoodle?
	Well, his Tesla's just caught fire at the charging station, and they want us to evacuate the building.
	I gotta go.
	You gotta catch a plane.
	Gotta go.
	An exception today, I'm playing one mix that is not from one of our own producers.
	It's from the Gregory Brothers.
	I put their mix in the show notes.
	It's that good, but it could have easily been a no-agenda producer who did it.
	So thank you for that, and Abel Kirby as well, and Sir Chris Wilson.
	We return on Sunday with another edition, another episode of the best podcast in the universe.
	Just build the pictures in between each show.
	You'll be fine.
	Here to give you helpful tips, life-saving tips for your sanity.
	And I'm coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the Drone Star State, in the 5x9 Cludio in the Common Law Condo.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I found my Thorin's turntable, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Until Sunday, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, adios, mofos!
	I need a cab.
	I need a cab.
	I could.
	This scourge of these bikes and these scooters, particularly in Austin.
	Bicycle, bicycle, bicycle.
	They just dump it into a city, just dump it.
	Bicycle, bicycle, bicycle.
	I want to dump my bicycle.
	I want to dump my bike.
	I want to dump my bicycle.
	I want to dump it where I'm at.
	We're getting hit on the road, which is what really needs to happen.
	We need to see people dying before we can get rid of this plague.
	It's just this plague.
	Space Force. Space Force. Space Force. Space Force. Space Force. Space Force. Space Force. Space Force. Space, space is a war fighting domain.
	Just like the land, air, and sea.
	Yeah.
	We have the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Space Force.
	Ah, my new national strategy could be Space Force, space, space, or Space Force.
	Space Force, Space, Space, Space Force We're doing a tremendous amount of work in space.
	I said, maybe we need a new force.
	We'll call it the Space Force.
	And I was not really serious.
	And then I said, what a great idea.
	Tremendous.
	Tremendous.
	Space Force, Space, Space, Space Force.
	Space Force, Space, Space, Space Force, Space Force, Space, Space, Space, Space Force, Space, Space, Space, Space Force.
	I say that you can use hairspray because hairspray is going to affect the ozone.
	They say, I say no way.
	My apartment's all sealed.
	You're telling me that affects the ozone layer.
	I want to put a little spray.
	Space Force, Space, Space, Space Force.
	Thank you.
	Shells in white cheddar Spirals in cream Oh, macaroni, it will taste like a dream.
	He who's not sober will add cheese to sauce.
	Stir macaroni, stir whatever the cost.
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