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1030: Phoneliness

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	That's what I'm talking about.
	Have your mom do it.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And it's Thursday, May 3rd, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 10 to 30.
	This is no agenda.
	Protecting producers from phoneliness and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas, in the Cludio, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where XL is the new M, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning!
	I happen to be somewhat of an expert in women's clothing.
	Or are you talking about men's clothing?
	I'm talking about men's t-shirts.
	Oh, men's t-shirts.
	People only wear t-shirts nowadays.
	Really?
	Shirts are too expensive.
	It is true that t-shirt sizes are very unclear.
	It's like when Horowitz sent me the DH Unplugged t-shirt.
	The coveted, very expensive DH Unplugged t-shirt, I might add.
	Yeah.
	Two Adams could have fit in this thing.
	Or one programmer.
	Oh!
	Dude's name, Ben.
	It's john.dvorak.org.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Any other reason for saying that?
	Or that's just your...
	That was my thing.
	Just how you want to get into it today.
	Might as well.
	All right.
	Hey, I had a nice lunch yesterday with Sir Warren Carroll from Indianapolis.
	He was in town.
	Ah, yes.
	He's been itching to have lunch with you.
	And he is part owner, co-owner of a very interesting company called Bottoms Up.
	Have you ever heard of this?
	Woo-hoo!
	There's a bunch of bars in San Francisco called Bottoms Up.
	Ah, yeah.
	Different kind of bar, I think.
	But, no, he and his partners invented a beer tap, which, of course, comes with special cups, that fills from the bottom up.
	So you just place it onto, like, a little round thing, and it pops up a magnet valve inside the cup, and it fills up the beer really quickly.
	Perfect, you know, perfect head, perfect everything.
	So I guess there's a great need for this.
	Actually, it turns out within six months, any bar or restaurant that uses this improves their bottom line on alcohol sales by 30%.
	Wow!
	Yeah, that's what I said, just by speed alone.
	If you go with that pitch from place to place, you can sell quite a few of them.
	That's the idea.
	This is a great story these guys went through.
	It's really very interesting.
	There's less chance of the mug being stolen.
	Well, it's speed.
	It's just speed of filling up the glasses really quick.
	You can YouTube it.
	Bottoms up.
	Yeah.
	Make sure you have your safe search on.
	Otherwise, you might get something wrong.
	But it's, yeah, very interesting.
	So we had a nice little chat.
	And as I'm pointing out, you know, exactly what's going on.
	We were right on the corner of Second Street.
	I'm saying, oh, look, you know, we've got all these douchebags here.
	Look, there's all those scooters driving by.
	And lo and behold, there was a homeless guy eating out of the trash can at the same time.
	It's like, welcome to Austin.
	Nice.
	Perfect.
	As if I had scripted it.
	It was fantastic.
	And he says, he's in like an Airbnb, kind of like business Airbnb.
	So he got in around one in the afternoon when, you know, most of the people in this apartment complex are not there.
	He says, it sounds like dog prison.
	All I heard, just dogs barking wherever you go.
	Because they're all home.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're all home and, you know, their parents, their parents, their parents are gone.
	Right, the dogs and the parents.
	Yes, yes.
	I'm telling you.
	Well, since you brought it up, I do have a kind of a matching clip.
	Okay.
	I always have a matching clip.
	And one to make sure you ups the ante a little bit on you.
	To try the San Francisco BART. Addicts, homeless, mess.
	The video went viral.
	Drug addicts shooting up as commuters walked through a downtown San Francisco BART corridor.
	This was a video that shocked not only the viewers, but BART directors as well.
	ABC 7 News reporter Vic Lee followed up with the transit agency today to see what's been done since that video went public last week.
	This video was taken by a BART commuter.
	Drug users, shooting up, slumped over, and unconscious amid pools of vomit.
	All of this as drivers walk through the passenger tunnel at Civic Center Station.
	You still on drugs?
	Yes.
	Do you shoot?
	Oh yeah.
	Rick came to the city four years ago.
	He says the BART Corridor is a refuge from the elements.
	People shooting up there?
	Yo, yo.
	His buddy Steve says BART police do make their presence known.
	Anybody that's sitting down or looks like they're laundering, they make leave.
	But not all the time.
	Not when this video was taken.
	BART says it was taken early in the morning when Civic Center Station just opened, when officers were on a shift change.
	The addicts obviously learned the patterns of our officers.
	We're making changes to those shift patterns, shift changes.
	The board has hired nearly two dozen new cleaners, and they plan to bring in even more janitors and community service officers to patrol San Francisco's downtown stations.
	Civic Center stations' corridors were clean when we visited around midday.
	There were lots of BART police, but they can't guarantee it'll be like this all the time because it's a societal problem.
	Supervisors President London Breed, who's running for mayor, agrees, saying that's why she wants safe injection sites.
	I want to try something that I know is actually working in places like Vancouver, Canada.
	Bart is also partnering with agencies that provide services to drug users and homeless people.
	Vickley, ABC 7 News.
	Yeah, it's perfectly California.
	More cops and more cleaners.
	Clean up the puke and clean up the homeless.
	Well, they're not going to do anything, of course.
	A couple of points to be made here.
	One, you know, the classic answer in San Francisco by the Board of Supervisors, oh, it's a societal problem.
	Yeah, this isn't even going on.
	This isn't going on in the Oakland BART stations, by the way.
	I should mention that.
	The other thing is they had this – oh, my daughter mentions that one of the – I think it's not the Civic Center but the Powell Street exit.
	They poop on the escalator.
	Why?
	So the poop goes...
	I guess it's kind of amusing because the poop goes down into the thing and then it comes out to that little kind of comb-like thing.
	It comes out and the poop kind of accumulates.
	It's gross.
	And that's amusing?
	It is to everyone, I guess.
	There's nothing else to do.
	Now, the thing about this report is the BART guy says, well, you know, these geniuses have figured out when we do shift changes, and I guess they caught us between shifts in this off-guard.
	We'll get them, those bastards!
	He goes on and on.
	Meanwhile, as he's saying this, right behind him, and all throughout the report, there are cameras in that hall that Oh, really?
	What does it take to look at the camera?
	Yeah, this is total horse crap.
	It's not a societal or cultural problem.
	It is just a California problem.
	I'm just going to hate on Californians.
	All of yous.
	And now L.A. First of all, They're conflating two things, drug abuse and homelessness.
	And I think they kind of go hand in hand often.
	And by the way, I'm not against safe shooting sites where you can go shoot up.
	That's been proven to work under the right circumstances and depends on what you're providing.
	I've seen it in the Netherlands.
	They'll never do it in California.
	No, I think they are.
	Don't they already have one?
	I thought they had one somewhere.
	I don't know.
	Bakersfield or something.
	Now Los Angeles has criminalized sleeping in cars and RVs.
	No, that's going to help.
	The last place, that's when people are clinging by their fingernails, they're sleeping in their car.
	Yeah.
	And meanwhile, this report came in over the transom this morning.
	In the heart of the Tenderloin on Ellis Street.
	Inside a former Turkish bath built in the early 1900s.
	A new kind of communal space is going up.
	Adult dorms.
	There'll be windows on the outside, which you can see here.
	CEO John Deschatsky co-founded the development startup Star City to help solve the city's housing crisis for the backbone economy, the restaurant workers, teachers and nurses.
	Star City's tenants generally make $50,000 to $90,000 a year.
	The SF Planning Commission just approved what will be a 52-unit co-living project.
	It's the company's biggest development yet.
	Our customers are really left with three options if they don't live with us.
	They can commute two hours outside of the city, they can fit four people to a three-bedroom by putting a wall up in the living room and calling that a room, or they can pay 50 to 60 percent of their income towards housing costs.
	This is a rendering of what 229 Ellis will look like when it's finished at the end of the year.
	Units max out at 250 square feet and include a private bathroom.
	Tenants share a kitchen, media room...
	Just bear that in mind.
	250 square feet.
	Yeah.
	That's pretty small.
	Well, it's 25 feet by 10 foot.
	So it's the size of a couple bedrooms.
	including your bathroom yeah bathrooms aren't that big have access to amenities by having a sort of more experiential living situation people can connect more they can put their phone downs and have a conversation oh sure and that's really what we hope to get back to What?
	Nothing.
	You have to get back to putting your phones down and having a conversation.
	Right.
	That's going to happen.
	What's that got to do with anything?
	Well, it's a selling point.
	It's because you'll integrate with your dorm community.
	Have a conversation.
	And that's really what we hope to get back to.
	Utilities, Wi-Fi, furniture, and common area cleaning services are all included.
	Rent will range from $1,900 to the low $2,000 a month.
	What?
	$2,000 a month to live in a dorm?
	I think I'm going to job out in my whole house.
	In a neighborhood where the average income is about $24,000 a year, Star City is partnering with the Compton's Transgender Cultural District to create a retail space, provide job opportunities, and work with local nonprofits.
	Alexandra Goldman is with the Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corporation.
	She says she welcomes development, but worries there could be a downside.
	It can provide an incentive for existing SRO owners who have lower income people living in their rooms to evict those people or otherwise remove them so that they can convert to this, which is a much more lucrative model.
	Star City says so far, this unusual dorm-style living is working.
	I'm not quite sure what the transgender community center retail space had to do with the story.
	I don't know.
	They always slip that stuff in.
	Now, the thing is, I mean, the solution to this, of course, is right before their very eyes, and I don't understand why somebody hasn't executed it by now to take care of this problem.
	Cardboard boxes?
	No, no.
	Ship them to Austin.
	Put them in a bus and ship them to Austin.
	One-way ticket, baby.
	Come on in.
	Our trash cans are filled with nutrition.
	And that's our homeless report for today.
	It is.
	Don't forget, there's no unemployment.
	In Austin?
	No, anywhere.
	Oh, no.
	Unemployment's down to 4%.
	It's the same as no one.
	Everyone's employed.
	So I don't know what these people are, what their problem is.
	I was talking to a buddy of mine.
	I think you might have met him at Mevio, Erik Hoechers.
	He's a Dutch guy, but he worked at Enemol, at Microsoft, at Intel.
	I don't think so.
	And until, like, last year, he was the CEO of Vivo, you know, the music video company.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And so he's a Dutch guy, but his wife is from South America.
	And I was talking to him and said, I don't think I want to live out here anymore.
	I said, why not?
	I said, well, first of all, everybody I employed, I can't stand it.
	And remember, this is a Dutch guy.
	He said, I can't stand how they think, yeah, maybe I'll come in at 9, could be 9.30 or 10 o'clock.
	He says, they're so entitled.
	And that's, again, coming from a Dutch guy.
	And he was telling me that he was driving by, I guess the office is right there, Market Street, where Twitter is, which is, isn't that where this whole thing is taking place?
	On Market Street?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Pretty much.
	Along the Market Street corridor.
	Yeah, he says, I was at the stoplight one day.
	I looked to the right.
	There's a homeless guy jacking off completely naked right on the corner.
	What am I doing here?
	I said, I don't know, man.
	You might want to look for a new gig.
	It's horrible.
	I mean, it's funny.
	Of course it's funny.
	Of course it's funny.
	But still, it's...
	It's very funny.
	It's really horrible.
	Yeah, it's a lot of humor.
	You have to have a good sense of humor.
	Yeah.
	So, if you live in California, yes, you do.
	It's absolutely true.
	My goodness.
	I got several complaints, which I... And I've asked...
	I'm sure you get this, too.
	Do you get these emails?
	John's doing this.
	John's doing that.
	John's doing that.
	You need to tell him.
	You should tell him.
	Do you get those about me?
	You must.
	No, I don't actually.
	Hmm.
	I thought you did.
	No.
	Oh, there you go.
	Well, I don't understand something.
	Why do people email me to tell you their grievance?
	Because they fear you got more influence than they do as individuals because apparently I give off this vibe of Of disdain.
	It takes years to get to it, by the way.
	Do you think I can ever get there?
	Will I ever be lucky enough?
	I'll play for you.
	A number of people, and this was interesting by itself, were very, very upset with the newsletter, John.
	Oh, yeah.
	I know.
	I got tweeted about it, and I did get a note or two.
	I got two notes.
	You should market NSFW when sending pictures of album covers with boobs.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that won't happen again.
	I wouldn't worry about it.
	I'm thinking, it's a no-agenda email.
	Don't read that at work.
	You know better than that.
	There's that.
	But we haven't done that before, and we did it this one time, and apparently people didn't like it.
	Was any of them linked to a boob donation?
	Yeah.
	Oh, good.
	Both those boobs were linked to a boob donation.
	And did we get boob donations?
	No.
	I think so, yeah.
	Okay, well then, I want to reconsider.
	I think you should...
	Let's do the NSFW when we're sending boobs, if the boobs are working.
	I'm not going to send out a bunch.
	It's borderline porn.
	No.
	Yeah, softcore.
	Boobs.
	Yeah, in California it is.
	Oh, really?
	But that's okay, because in California they do care a lot about such things, but they don't care much about teaching fourth graders about...
	About gender identity and sex.
	No, no.
	Big scandal.
	I have a clip.
	Oh?
	Okay.
	Good segue.
	Fremont School, sex ed.
	Hold on a second.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Everyone is different.
	FUSD is considering a curriculum called the three R's.
	Rights, respect, responsibility.
	This is a video about puberty for fourth grade girls.
	Wait a minute.
	They've changed the three R's to rights, respect, and what?
	Responsibility, I think.
	This is California.
	They've changed the three R's from reading, writing, and arithmetic to rights to respect it.
	And so now they're teaching fourth graders.
	By state law, by the way.
	I thought this was just some local thing.
	No, no, no.
	The state, Jerry Brown and the Democrats, have made it a state law that you have to teach all these little kids, fourth graders, about sex and about gender and about choosing your own...
	picking a...
	It's self-identifying and all the rest of it.
	How old are these kids?
	Well, I don't know.
	What's a fourth grader?
	Fifth grader, sixth grader?
	Eight, nine?
	Backwards from the twelfth grade.
	Twelfth grade is like 18, so...
	I really don't know.
	Eight, nine, something like that?
	Nine, I think.
	Nine-year-olds, eight-year-olds maybe.
	Huh.
	Well, this is really nice.
	Everyone is different.
	FUSD is considering a curriculum called the Three R's, Rights, Respect, Responsibility.
	This is a video about puberty for fourth grade girls from the district website.
	The superintendent says curriculum must be adopted to abide by California's Healthy Youth Act.
	Part of the state law now is that we need to talk about gender identity and sexual orientation.
	We need to talk about stereotyping.
	Topics the state requires kids to learn about, but some adults see differently.
	Help them to challenge the gender norms that have been taught to them from their earliest ages.
	This is a perfect example of the erosion of family values that this curriculum is all about.
	But I want everyone in this district to have access to lessons about puberty, sexual health, LGBTQ issues, and consent with people who are qualified and comfortable speaking on them.
	Oh man, this is so wrong.
	This is so wrong.
	And that girl who's at the end there going on about how we need to talk about this had a big, one of those cow rings in her nose.
	A huge one, by the way, that you could actually put a clip on.
	Yeah, the one that I like to flip a leash on if Christina does it, yeah?
	Yeah.
	And she had that on and she's all pierced up and she's going on and on about that.
	We need to have gender selection, gender this and gender that.
	She goes on and on about it like she knows anything.
	And this is quite something to observe.
	I hate to say it, it's a gay agenda.
	Well, it goes hand-in-hand with the Boy Scouts now becoming Scouts BSA. I, myself, was a Boy Scout.
	I was a Boy Scout.
	And I think this is a...
	Did you make Eagle Scout?
	Did you make Eagle Scout?
	No, no way.
	Well, I was in the Sea Scouts because it was in the Netherlands.
	Oh, that's different.
	It's still Boy Scouts.
	It's still...
	Part of the Boy Scouts.
	Was the Sea Scouts part of the Boy Scouts?
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	I thought it was separate.
	In fact, they thought it was a really cool deal that as a kid, and of course I don't remember this, I guess my dad had told the head honcho there, that as a kid I had slept in Powell's house.
	Colin Powell?
	Yeah, Baden Powell, I think.
	The founder of the Boy Scouts.
	I don't know anything about this.
	Yeah, wasn't he the founder?
	I don't know.
	In the 1900s?
	I don't know, maybe.
	I think he was.
	And I'm not sure, it's when we lived in Africa.
	Yeah, Robert Baden-Powell, exactly.
	You slept with him?
	I slept in his house.
	I don't know.
	It was some historic house.
	I'm not sure.
	Oh, a house.
	It was a house and you slept in this house.
	Yes.
	The guy was dead.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	He was long gone, but they thought it was cool.
	Was he still there?
	No.
	Therefore, I remember they were a part of the Boy Scouts because they thought that was a big deal.
	It doesn't matter.
	What's happened here is the Boy Scouts have now decided, and I don't know if, is Tillerson still executive chairman or board chairman?
	It might be.
	To drop the name Boy, so it goes from Boy Scouts of America, BSA, to Scouts, BSA, and as of 2019, they will be accepting girls into the program.
	Yeah, I've listened to all the reports on this, and after I heard everything, I'm less concerned about it than you are, and I'm going to explain.
	Okay.
	First of all, there's still BSA, and it's just going to be called Scouts, and they did the same thing with boys clubs and made them boys and girls clubs.
	the girls that were saying that they like this idea because the Girl Scouts are the ones that are freaked out about it.
	They're not part of the same organization.
	No, they are not.
	Correct.
	And they're irked about the whole thing.
	And they're trying to come up with some new ideas because they think they're going to lose membership.
	Well, they're going to go full on social justice warrior with these girls.
	Well, it could be.
	That would be more interesting.
	Oh, yeah.
	But the point is that the girls that wanted to join the Boy Scouts said it's because the Girl Scouts don't have enough outdoor activities and they like to camp.
	And pretty much, at least when I was a Boy Scout, pretty much the only thing you really did a lot of was camping.
	Yeah, but I remember the Boy Scouts.
	There was a lot of boy stuff we were doing.
	And trying not to get caught while doing it.
	You were a Sea Scout.
	Could you just have a conversation with me?
	Yeah, I can.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just being snotty.
	Go on.
	Well, as I said, in the Boy Scouts, particularly when you're on Jamboree or out on camp, there's a lot of boy stuff that happens.
	Yeah, but it's usually out in the woods.
	Yeah, but it's not appropriate for girls to be...
	I mean, boys need their place to be boys.
	Well, that's apparently not the case anymore.
	That's been changed.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't take this lightly, and I'd like to hear from some of our Eagle Scouts what they think about it.
	We have a number of them who listen to the show.
	They said the girls are going to be in separate troops.
	Oh, God.
	I'm sorry, but somebody's got to take their side.
	Okay.
	Why don't the Girl Scouts of America do more outdoor stuff?
	They said they're going to have to.
	They realized that this was an issue.
	I mean, we play with BB guns that we smuggled in.
	We burn ants with magnifying glasses.
	We jerk off.
	I mean, we do all kinds of boy stuff.
	Well, I don't remember the jerking off part.
	What kind of a Boy Scout troop were you in?
	Did it have anything to do with staying at that guy's house?
	Sea Scouts, baby.
	It's a whole different deal.
	Sea Scouts.
	Oh, yeah, the Seaman Scouts.
	There you go.
	Took you long enough.
	Damn.
	Yeah, it did.
	I'm really slow on the draw here.
	Anyway, yeah, I can see this.
	I know it's going to be controversial.
	Most people are making a fuss.
	They did a poll.
	80% of the public doesn't think it's a good idea.
	They don't think it's a good idea?
	No.
	The pollsters are coming up with negative numbers on this.
	Yeah, but it seems like their decision is absolute.
	It is done.
	They're good with it.
	Yeah, well, what are you going to do?
	None of this would be a problem if they'd just be shipping all these people to Austin.
	Well, while we're on this particular topic, I don't even know how to transition out of this anymore.
	I really don't.
	It lost your ability to segue.
	I wanted to add something to the Trump rotation, only because I got a very interesting article about this.
	I should mention I'm on my regular machine instead of the normal NUC, which seems to not want to boot.
	Ah, so you don't have the lists handy?
	And I can go and I can pull up the Trump list and I can actually edit it.
	I just want to add something because I think something is bubbling under that may show up.
	It depends.
	I mean, after this latest round of whatever, subpoena and all these things that are supposed to be happening.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, give me the background of the clip then first.
	What is it?
	Trump subpoena?
	Well, the background is just talking about the, you know, there's four or five different, the NBC clip, which NBC hates Trump.
	They did, I think, a pretty decent job of Going around, what can happen?
	Trump can say, screw you, I'm not going to even look at this thing, or I refuse to accept it.
	There's a bunch of different things.
	They don't know what's going to happen.
	If it even happens, I have a couple of clips that are worth listening to.
	Sure.
	One of them is a little long.
	It's a guy who just gave testimony a few days ago.
	It was on Tucker.
	And he brought up some good stuff.
	Oh, I saw this Michael Caputo.
	I saw him.
	Yes, and it shows you the weakness of Tucker.
	Because what Caputo had to say was pretty...
	It was pretty unbelievable, I thought.
	Yes.
	And Tucker's just joking around like I was just doing with you and not paying any attention to what was being said, which is not really what he should be doing.
	Do you want to play that?
	Thank you for coming on.
	Thanks for inviting me.
	So you've been interviewed by the investigation, the Mueller investigation, is that correct?
	Yes, today at noon I spent three hours with...
	Now, he was a strategist for the Trump campaign, I believe.
	Yeah, he was just a campaign guy.
	You could have been the same guy.
	You have the same crappy audio I have from this.
	It was a long hum in there.
	It was online and it's got a buzz.
	Investigators in the special counsel's office.
	What did you learn?
	I learned they're still looking at Russian collusion.
	They're still looking for it.
	While I wouldn't be asked about charges of obstruction or asked about, you know, financial crimes, I was there during the time when they believed that Russian collusion was initiated.
	That would be the only thing that they would ask me about.
	That certainly is the only thing we talked about.
	That's not the only thing you talked about.
	That is the only thing we talked about.
	In my mind...
	If anybody thinks that Russia collusion is off the table, they haven't visited with the Mueller team.
	Was there Russian collusion?
	Of course not.
	I mean, I think that they're looking down the avenues of all the evidence that they're putting together.
	I'll tell you, they know more about the Trump campaign than anybody that worked there.
	And they know more about what I did in 2016 than I do myself.
	Well, I hope so.
	They really do.
	They spent a lot of money.
	Why do you say that?
	What's that?
	Tucker's making these snide comments.
	He says, that's not all you talked about.
	He says, yes, that's all you talked about.
	Then he says, they knew more than I knew.
	And then Tucker goes on about, yeah, of course they should.
	Why is this?
	He's just throwing these little snippets in there.
	I find it's a very annoying interview.
	I just kind of did not like the way he handled this guy.
	I think what he was trying to say is, if they're spying on people, they might as well do a good job.
	I think that's...
	Well, maybe.
	That's what I think he's saying.
	And they know more about what I did in 2016 than I do myself.
	Well, I hope so.
	They really do.
	They spent a lot of money and a lot of time looking into it.
	They have...
	So what are they looking at specifically?
	Like, what did you learn?
	Where do they think the collusion took place?
	I don't really want to interfere with the investigation.
	I was warned about that.
	Well, they warned you not to talk about it.
	Well, they warned me to be careful about interfering with...
	Exercising your freedom of speech.
	They're not for that, is that right?
	I get that, but my attorneys...
	I get that.
	It's the center of our country.
	I get that, but I'm just saying my attorneys also asked me to be careful about this, but I can tell you they're looking...
	So they're threatening and intimidating, basically, it sounds like.
	I'm not going to be friending them on Facebook today, if that's what you're asking.
	What's it like to live in a country where, having not been charged or convicted of any crime, a prosecutor can threaten you to shut up in public?
	It's not nice, but I can tell you that it's nothing compared to the $125,000 in legal bills that I've stacked up for nothing.
	It's nothing compared to the death threats that my family and I are getting.
	It's nothing compared to the piece of a sniper rifle.
	You know, because I saw this, I was wondering, if I were asked to go speak to Robert Mueller's investigators, which could happen at any time, I wouldn't be able to afford a lawyer, but I'd be like, I'll just go.
	Would I need a lawyer?
	Would I need to have, if I just helped on the campaign, would I need a lawyer?
	I don't know.
	He says he claims he did.
	I don't know why.
	Pretty expensive one, too, for one afternoon, or did he go more than once?
	Well, he said he's been the friend of Congress.
	He explains it later that he really had a lot of They were dragging him in and out of different things.
	I came in the middle of my wife last month.
	It's nothing compared to the way that they're trashing my family.
	What's happening to me in my family is happening to many other people in this investigation.
	I'm just a witness.
	I can't imagine if somebody's a subject or a target, what they're going to go through.
	But I can tell you this.
	Wait, can I just back up for one second?
	Since you just spoke to the investigators today, when they suggested in the way that the mafia suggests, maybe you shouldn't do that.
	What do you think the penalty would be if you ignored that suggestion?
	I don't think there would be any penalty, but I think I might be called back for a little visit, and every time I come to Washington for this bogus investigation, whether it's the Senate, the House, or whatever, I get to pay another 20, 25 grand.
	They just bankrupt you.
	That's no big deal.
	Not just me.
	I think other people, too.
	I mean, a tin cup isn't a good look, but I've had to open a GoFundMe page.
	I certainly didn't sign up for this when I went to work for the Trump campaign, and I will never, ever work on another Republican campaign for as long as I live.
	This is like such a stock thing now.
	I've got to open up a GoFundMe page, and I'm sure it's funded.
	I'm sure people are sending you money.
	Maybe.
	I didn't look.
	All right, so what did you not like about this?
	Well, the second part of it is where I think it gets annoying.
	...campaign for as long as I live.
	I mean, I think that's part of this, Tucker.
	I think this is a punishment strategy.
	I think they want to destroy the president.
	They want to destroy his family.
	They want to destroy his businesses.
	They want to destroy his friends so that no billionaire in, let's say, 15 years wakes up and tells his wife, you know what, the country's broken and only I can fix it.
	His wife will say, are you crazy?
	Did you see what happened to Donald Trump and everybody around him?
	That's what this is about.
	So they've so intimidated you, and again, they're not charging you with anything.
	There's no allegation that you committed a crime.
	But they've so intimidated you that you can't talk about your conversation on this show right now, and you're retiring from campaign politics forever.
	I'm never going to work on a Republican campaign again, unless somebody legally indemnifies me.
	Clearly, these lawsuits after the fact are the new democratic strategy, when you lose, you still win.
	I don't think anybody should work on a Republican campaign, again, unless they're legally indemnified.
	I think if you do, you're crazy.
	My legal fees are going to be at least $125,000.
	That's more than I make in a year.
	That's more than where I live in East Aurora, New York.
	That's more than most people in my town make.
	And I don't know how we're going to pay that off, me and my family.
	But that's Washington money.
	That's New York money.
	Well, it's disgusting.
	Well, I can tell you this.
	We're almost out of time.
	They're looking at WikiLeaks.
	They're looking at Guccifer.
	They're looking at, you know, DC leaks.
	Everything that you see in the media that's been leaked out there, that's certainly what they're looking at.
	And I think they're pretty focused on this.
	Okay.
	Well, it seems to me that this is just, I think he's right.
	I think there's a strategy of just punishing people for being involved with Trump.
	Yep.
	And going after him in every which way that you can to just break him and ruin him.
	I don't know why he's getting death threats, but okay.
	And who is they when he says they are...
	They're Democrats.
	This is a Democrat thing.
	He says it's the new Democrat strategy where you lose your win because you just start harassing everybody.
	But what's really going on to me, and a lot of this has to do with the impeachment of Clinton, and he didn't...
	Nobody died when he lied and some of these things that came out, which was a perjury charge.
	You're saying it's all payback?
	I think this is all payback, but I think what it's going to do, it's going to start a, which is why I think they may not do a, because the Clinton thing was probably a payback for Nixon.
	Is that what this is?
	It's just every administration has to come up with some payback?
	Fuck them!
	Yeah, I totally believe this is true, and I think it's going to worsen because, I don't know, I think this is the fact that Hillary, the anointed one, did not win.
	I think that they're going to go nuts about this, do what they can to make things miserable for everybody involved with Trump.
	I think it's going to worsen because Republicans can do the same thing.
	And that means at some point in the near future, we're going to start seeing indictments of former administration officials.
	Oh, God.
	Which could happen right now.
	That could start any time.
	If Jeff Sessions had a clue, he'd do that.
	What compounds this, though, is that we have this collective brain on the social nets where...
	People are just going with the flow, man.
	I mean, it's one outrage after another.
	It's very hard for me to continue to follow it because it just gets inside your head.
	You know, it's like, oh, just outrage and outrage.
	And then we have, oh, everything is wrong.
	Doing everything wrong is horrible.
	I mean, people are saying things outrageous.
	Well, I think you hit one of the nails on the head recently when you were at the hairdresser.
	Yeah, yes.
	Yes.
	And the woman's told you, well, all everybody's talking about is they're going to arrest everybody, and by everybody, they mean everybody.
	Well, worse than that, like, how come he isn't in jail yet?
	That's their question.
	I don't understand.
	We have all the evidence.
	Why isn't he in jail yet?
	Yeah.
	This is how they think.
	Yeah.
	From the other side, I have a clip here from a former CIA officer, whatever that means, Kevin Shipp.
	Now, he doesn't get on mainstream, but he does get on a couple of podcasts, and he speaks of a three-act play.
	Here we have high-level members of our intelligence community and our law enforcement community actually conspiring and colluding to obstruct justice, lying under oath, filing false affidavits for illegal NSA surveillance, and we know it's been at least 260 names that have been unmasked.
	I didn't know that.
	260 names were unmasked?
	Did you hear about this?
	I didn't know that either.
	That's a lot of people.
	That's more than just Carter Page.
	This is a coup within the shadow government, the intelligence agency, the deep state as some would call it, against the president.
	We have not seen anything like this since the presidency of John F. Kennedy when CIA Director Alan Dulles attacked him and we saw what happened there.
	Whoa!
	Don't like what he's saying there.
	And that's exactly what he's saying.
	Yeah, it is.
	Well, he actually backs it up a little bit with something.
	Hold on a second.
	Yeah, listen to this.
	CIA director Alan Dulles attacked him, and we saw what happened there.
	And I probably may be one of the only former CIA officers that will come out and say this.
	There's clear, crystal clear evidence that the CIA was directly involved, at least in the cover-up of the JFK assassination.
	Now we have the same thing happening again.
	So do you think that Trump...
	Kind of giving a pass to the CIA or FBI, whoever it is, the JFK files.
	They don't fully have to be released until somewhere in 2021.
	You think that has something to do with it?
	Like he doesn't want to open that can of worms right now while they, in essence...
	Well, they have a gun pointed at his head?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm sure of it.
	And I was thinking about it.
	What's the other reason?
	I was thinking about it.
	Let's say Trump was assassinated.
	It could happen.
	We've talked about this in the past.
	What would happen to the country?
	Because I think, unlike JFK, everyone was just shocked and just, you know, stopped in their tracks.
	I think bad, bad things would happen here.
	Well, there's a huge difference.
	During the JFK era, the number of people that would suspect anybody other than Lee Harvey Oswald was zero because the mentality of the country has changed thanks to alternative media.
	And so there would be a lot of problems.
	There would be a lot of problems.
	So they're going to continue to embarrass him.
	And then he had to deal with Pence.
	Yeah.
	And Pence himself may not be amenable to this.
	No.
	I think that I'm going to add to the Trump rotation, because, I mean, how much further can you go?
	You have to go all the way.
	And I'm seeing this bubbling under, and particularly when Trump is discussed in combo with Frank Rich.
	This was his, kind of the New York, his mentor, if you will.
	Now, the meme is, again, bubbling under, he's gay.
	And that he was in the New York gay clubs all the time and all these women are beards.
	Well, that would account for...
	I can imagine somebody...
	It's a funny theory.
	I have not heard this at all.
	I'm not putting it on the list because it's not in play.
	I said bubbling under.
	Bubbling under.
	I have articles.
	It's all bubbling under.
	Okay, I can put...
	I don't have a bubbling under list.
	Okay.
	But I will...
	I'm holding it, and I'll put it on as soon as...
	Put it in the buzz bin.
	I don't have that.
	Make a new buzz bin.
	I have this one list.
	You want me to read the list?
	It's a good list.
	Yeah, let's do the list.
	Okay, this is the Trump rotation, everything wrong with Trump.
	And here's the list as I currently have it.
	Let me make sure I have this so I can scroll it because it's in two...
	It's a lot of things.
	He's an illegitimate president.
	Incompetent, there's White House chaos, he's unhinged, updated to unglued, liar, Hitler, demands loyalty, cheeseburgers is all he eats, McDonald's, sex offender, Russian agent, never says anything bad about Putin, white supremacist, Narcissist, mentally unfit, insane, unstable, clown or bozo.
	Foreign leaders hate him.
	He hates women.
	He's a misogynist.
	Admitted molester.
	25th Amendment should be instituted, should be impeached.
	Hates immigrants, hates Mexicans in particular.
	Says all Mexicans are rapists.
	He is a racist.
	He has small hands, small penis, big red button.
	Should not have nuclear codes.
	Immature, childlike.
	You need an adult in the room.
	tweets too much, thin-skinned.
	Bully.
	Holds grudges forever.
	Mean.
	Bankrupt.
	Does not have any money.
	Long ties.
	Does have long ties.
	Fatter than 239 pounds.
	Plays too much golf after criticizing Obama.
	Hypocrite by action.
	Seldom called one.
	Incestuous.
	Would date daughter.
	Divorcee.
	Golden showers.
	He's a pea pervert.
	Tax cheat.
	Won't release taxes.
	He's impetuous.
	He's Nixonian.
	And then three on the criminal list.
	He's guilty of obstruction of justice, money laundering, and he runs the mob.
	Sounds like he's perfectly qualified for a Nobel Peace Prize.
	On the money.
	They can't settle on any one thing.
	Did you see the New York Times printed 281 people, places, and things Trump lied about?
	Oh, please.
	It was two-page spread.
	What did he lie about?
	Their concept of a lie is pretty loose structured.
	Let me see if I have a couple.
	Oops.
	Thanks, New York Times.
	Why do I get an ad blocker?
	I'm a member.
	Oh, bastards.
	Okay, forget.
	I can't show you because it just keeps on going through an ad blocker.
	Sorry.
	If you go to a private browser, it immediately opens it.
	Yeah, I'm not going to do that on the air.
	Screw it.
	Let's see.
	The list contains 281 people, places, and things.
	The Republican presidential nominee has insulted on Twitter, including Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.
	Crooked, very dumb, totally confused.
	Media organization so dishonest.
	Wall Street Journal failing.
	Vanity Fair, etc.
	Entire countries.
	Terrible China.
	Totally corrupt Mexico.
	Total mess.
	These are on the list of lies?
	That's what they have, yeah, apparently.
	These are all a matter of opinion.
	No, no.
	Lies and insults.
	I'm sorry.
	It's not just lies.
	Lies and insults.
	Lies and insults.
	That's a small list.
	Yeah, you can go on forever with that one.
	Lies and insults.
	All right.
	But keep that bubbling under.
	I'm telling you, this was on, what did I read this on?
	This article that I read.
	The problem with that is it brings up the gay Obama stuff.
	Hmm.
	I think it would backfire.
	I don't think they're going to go there.
	But if you want to irk him, I mean, and also think about it, he's hanging out with Roger Stone.
	Hello?
	Just saying.
	I mean, Roger Stone, you could hang this whole thing up on Roger Stone alone.
	We'll see.
	They've got to go really all in now.
	They've got to do something really rough.
	Because nothing is working.
	Well...
	Well, the latest thing that came out was one of the ex-directors of CNBC was busted for putting a cam in the bathroom.
	Again, part of the CNBC, the NBC list that I've been collecting.
	And I forgot to mention that Cosby used to work for NBC. They keep him in the news.
	I think there's...
	Every time something happens on the one side, an attack on NBC takes place.
	Yeah, this was a pretty good story.
	This was the former CNBC director pleading guilty to hiding a camera in his bathroom to spy on his teenage au pair.
	Nice.
	And there's more about Charlie Rose.
	Yeah, because Rose kept talking about making a comeback as a podcaster, so I think they did this to stop him.
	Oh, yeah.
	So now they have this whole list of allegations, and it was as recent as 2017.
	This guy was a real creep.
	Yeah, an additional 27 women.
	14 CBS News employees and 13 who work with him elsewhere said Rose sexually harassed them.
	Concerns about Rose's behavior were flagged to managers of the network as early as 1986 and as recently as April 2017, when Rose was co-anchor of the CBS This Morning, according to multiple people with first-hand knowledge of the conversation's sources.
	Yeah, great.
	Man, I love this.
	Especially because I know we have nothing to fear.
	We're podcasters.
	Exactly.
	Nothing.
	We have a pass.
	Get us kicked off the podcast.
	We have a pass.
	Get us fired from the podcast.
	We have a pass on everything.
	I keep emphasizing this to people when we ask for donations that, I mean, there's really hard, unless, you know, I mean, we could obviously be taken down by, you know, just some government guys come and knock down the door and We're not that important.
	They're not going to do that.
	No.
	This has to be more subtle.
	Otherwise, it's not fair.
	But, you know, I think a lot of people are finding refuge in podcasting.
	Sadly, yes.
	There's one you don't even know about, but I can...
	Yes?
	You're going to be stunned.
	There's a show that I don't know about?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Mike Morrell is now a podcaster.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, let me hear this.
	We know CBS News senior national security contributor Michael Morrell for his more than 30 years at the CIA. What's it called?
	The Right Podcast?
	Is that what it's called?
	Right?
	Hello, welcome to the podcast Right?
	Right?
	Where he served as both deputy director and acting director.
	But did you know that he is also a podcast host?
	A very good one, too.
	What is he saying?
	A good one, too?
	Ha!
	Also, a podcast host.
	Very good one, too.
	He's a podcast host, John.
	He's not quite a podcaster.
	You can't be a podcast host.
	You're either a podcaster or not.
	You know that he is also a podcast host.
	Very good one, too.
	It's called Intelligence Matters, where I'll talk to leading voices in national...
	The thing is, he's a really good host, sucker.
	...security and foreign policy.
	They tackle issues like counterterrorism, cybersecurity, and negotiating with adversaries, and what lessons these experts learn through their careers.
	The first episode of the new season is out today.
	It features Morell's conversation with Michael Hayden, former director of both the CIA and National Security Agency.
	The podcast is produced by CBS News and was initially done in partnership with the Cypher Brief website.
	Michael, good morning.
	Good morning.
	I like how he says the new season.
	I got, yeah.
	The new season.
	The first episode of the new season is out.
	That's not how podcasts work, you doofus.
	We're infinity.
	New season.
	We have a new season.
	Does that mean we get to take off, you know, 40 weeks of the year and just have our season?
	Well, apparently, they don't mention it.
	I think that maybe in passing they mentioned it was done by this cipher operation, which is like one of those networks, and I think it was a fail.
	Fail, yeah.
	And so CBS picked it up, and CBS decided to do it because, you know, it works for them, and he probably sold them a bill of goods.
	And they have a shot at the studio.
	Oh, my God.
	It's got some of the most expensive gear you've ever seen.
	With the booms they use with the mics.
	Is this his own dedicated studio, or is it just a CBS studio?
	They never say.
	But it could be a dedicated studio for him.
	But when I heard the new season, then I found out what happened is the thing wasn't working, and so they went on hiatus, which is always what that means.
	I'm going to do this in the opening of our show.
	Season 10!
	Episode 1030!
	You can do 10...
	This could be season 20.
	Yeah, we'll just make it up.
	And so they...
	So let's listen to the rest of it, and then you...
	I'll tell you, because I listen to this pod...
	Or try...
	The podcast is boring.
	It's a bunch...
	It's two spooks talking to each other.
	They can't say anything.
	People have to realize, and I think we should mention this again and again, when you hear a Mike Morrell or a Hayden or any of these guys come out and talk about anything...
	They are sworn to state secrecy.
	They cannot talk about anything of any importance.
	They just can't and they never can.
	Once they're out of the agency, they sign papers for this.
	They can't say anything and they don't say anything.
	So it's just a waste of time to listen to them.
	They can't speculate if the speculation is based on anything they know.
	So it's just blather.
	Michael, good morning.
	Good morning.
	So on the podcast, you get to tell all the secrets you couldn't tell when you got the CIA. Right, right, right.
	What are you hoping to achieve with the podcast?
	So what we want to do is have a...
	Wait, who just did right, right, right?
	Was that him?
	Who did a triple right?
	I think that was Morrell.
	The secrets you couldn't tell when you had the CIA. Right, right, right.
	What are you hoping to achieve?
	Getting them in early.
	With the podcast.
	So what we want to do is have a place where you can have a discussion about national security issues where there are no politics.
	A conversation.
	It used to be true that politics ended at the nation's shores, that politics didn't get involved in national security issues.
	That's not true anymore.
	So we want to have a place where we can talk about those issues.
	That's where there are different views, but people aren't scoring political points.
	This is a slightly abstract question, but it's something we deal with in the press too, which is there is intelligence that you can get wrong in good faith.
	And that's part of the job.
	And then there is the history in the intelligence agencies where sometimes people cooked things and where politicians took the information and cooked it.
	Is that one of the goals here to try to put things in their different categories so people understand the difference between a mistake made in good faith and something that was said that wasn't true?
	Exactly.
	And I'll give you a great example.
	There is a misperception, right, that the Bush administration politicized the judgments about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.
	Just not true.
	The CIA and the intelligence community believed that even before President Bush came to office.
	We were telling President Clinton that.
	So that's a great example.
	Oh, so this is the Correct History podcast is what this is.
	We're going to correct all the things you have wrong, you stupid idiots.
	A couple of things.
	He did something interesting, which is when Brennan, I have to get, I'm going to get the timelines on this, but I think he made a mistake and he told us that Brennan was number four in the agency when the first, when they started the torture program.
	Hmm.
	And he said Brennan was against it, but he wasn't in the chain of command at the time, so he couldn't do anything about it.
	And then later he became head of the CIA. Now, when that torture program began, I thought that's when Brennan was in the State Department over in Saudi Arabia becoming a Muslim.
	Let me see.
	What was the time of the torture program?
	Well, that's what I have to get the timelines now.
	So I'm going to have to go get a couple different timelines and find out where Brennan was.
	But if he was in the agency as number four, that means he was always in the agency.
	So he was in the agency while a...
	U.S. government representative in the ambassador's office, if he wasn't the ambassador, to Saudi Arabia, which of course is, gee golly, our people in the foreign service are all intelligence agents.
	It's a shocker.
	Interesting.
	Two months after assuming his post at CIA in 2013, Brennan replaced Gina Haspel as head of the National Clandestine Service and placed another unidentified career intelligence officer and former Marine in her place.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Because now she's now the boss.
	Well, one of the things that's going on is...
	Well, he talks about her and a bunch of other stuff.
	It's kind of interesting.
	I should clip more of it, I guess.
	But they...
	I think Morrell should be called to the carpet and told to get off these things because he's like...
	Dropping too much of those subtle stuff he thinks is okay, but he's blowing up timelines.
	Yeah, but you see, these guys, they're like hockey players right now, or football players.
	Every network has to hire these guys.
	I don't know why, maybe because they leak secrets to them during their tenure, but it's like a big reward.
	Brennan gets to work for NBC, and Morrell is at CBS, and they've got all the bases covered.
	Who's at ABC? Which spook is there?
	That's a good question.
	We've got to look at that.
	I mean, Anderson Cooper is the spook in chief.
	There's always a spook.
	That's to keep an eye on these publishing companies.
	All publishing companies have a spook.
	And you see them.
	When you go there, you say, oh, there he is.
	There's a guy.
	The only guy with white hair and a blue shirt and a tie.
	Everybody else is casual.
	Yeah.
	But except there's one guy.
	Anyway, so I listened to the podcast.
	Intelligence Matters is the name of it.
	You can look it up.
	Mm-hmm.
	He says, well, it's a place where we can come without politics.
	All they do is bash Trump.
	Well, yeah.
	What else is a podcast for?
	It's perfect for that.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, come on.
	And it's really dull and It's overproduced.
	It's very...
	By the way, it's overproduced to the point where they have hits between thoughts.
	I mean, somebody's spending a lot of time on this thing in the head.
	Yeah, we got hits in between thoughts.
	So it's post-production is what you're saying.
	A lot of post-production.
	High post-production.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, and that's it?
	That's our new competition.
	Oh, well good.
	Okay, I'll stay with the deep state then for just a moment.
	Comey was out doing interviews.
	He continues on his book tour.
	Do you wish she'd won?
	Do I wish she'd won?
	Yeah, that's one I'm not going to answer, I don't think.
	He's getting big laughs, our Comey boy.
	Because you said your family members do.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	What would your life be like if she'd won?
	I also don't know the answer to that.
	I think I would still be the FBI director.
	Sure.
	Oh, yeah!
	That would solve everything!
	The reason I say that is, someone asked me to compare the two, and it's too hard for me to compare the two, except Secretary Clinton is someone deeply enmeshed in the rule of law, respect for institutions, a lawyer.
	And so given that background...
	I'm reasonably confident that even though she was unhappy with decisions the FBI had made, she would not fire the FBI director as a result.
	But, look, again, I don't know that for sure.
	Oh, sure.
	You would have been the first head to roll.
	Is he crazy?
	Yeah, he is.
	He is.
	And who's this guy?
	This is a former FBI guy.
	He was on with the money, honey.
	Maria Bartiromo getting all political now on Fox Business News.
	James Kallstrom, former FBI director.
	Well, you know, I think he's lost his mind, Jim Comey.
	I don't understand, you know, what his act is.
	You know, this book tour and all this nonsense about it's not a leak.
	Of course it's a leak.
	Without question, I mean, and his conversation with the President of the United States is automatically classified.
	He's talking about the memos that he gave to his professor friend.
	At least it was when I was in the government, unless they've changed rules like that.
	But, Maria, we're in a three-act play, and you know what?
	It's not a comedy.
	It's a tragedy.
	You know, Act I was the stop...
	Mr.
	Trump from becoming the President of the United States.
	That failed.
	Act 2 was to diminish his ability to manage the country.
	And even with that, he has done a fantastic job.
	You know, I say that as someone who's not affiliated with either party.
	But look what he's done.
	Even with all the backlash and all the nonsense that's going on, there is no question that there's a cabal, a fifth column, a conspiracy, call it what you may, that involves people in the intelligence community, probably involves people over in Great Britain who have probably fed information to people like John Brennan.
	I don't know that for a fact, but it would not surprise me.
	And this is really a nasty, nasty act two that's going on.
	People of the United States, I mean, we have to violently react to this, not from the standpoint of guns and bullets, but from the standpoint of stopping this.
	This cannot go on in the United States.
	This is third world country stuff.
	Yeah, good luck with that.
	It ain't stopping anytime soon.
	I agree with the third world, so that's what I said is going to end up becoming because they're not letting up at all, and the social media, of course, doesn't help this.
	Here's the clip.
	This is the clip from NBC. This is Trump versus Mueller, so we can kind of catch up.
	Got the new lawyers.
	It's got all the information we need to be kind of caught up with the As of yesterday.
	A lot of new developments this evening in the showdown between President Trump and special counsel Robert Mueller.
	The president shaking up his legal team.
	Again, Ty Cobb is out.
	And a new heavy hitter who acted as Bill Clinton's impeachment lawyer is in.
	It comes amid signs the Trump team is shifting tactics, preparing for battle and a potential confrontation over a subpoena.
	Our chief White House correspondent Hallie Jackson has new details tonight.
	Tonight, new signs of a more aggressive chapter in the president's fight with the special counsel.
	He's losing a lawyer, Ty Cobb, who's taken a more conciliatory tone.
	Cooperation definitely was the right move and definitely the path that would lead to the quickest resolution.
	And the president is adding another attorney, Emmett Flood, who represented Bill Clinton during his impeachment.
	His hiring, seen as a signal the president may rely more heavily on executive privilege, which could shut down certain questions from Robert Mueller.
	The scope of that interview is still being negotiated with Rudy Giuliani, who also represents the president, explaining what they want on Fox News.
	Two hours.
	And topics.
	Questions in advance.
	Relevant topics.
	And then we'd want a commitment for them that they're going to decide before the end of the summer.
	So we don't have this drag on.
	So what happens if both sides cannot come to an agreement?
	Mueller might try to force the president to talk by issuing a subpoena.
	Any president can be subpoenaed.
	Jefferson, Nixon, and Clinton all were.
	But it'd be up to the president whether to comply or not.
	He'd have four options to consider.
	Option one, testify and answer questions.
	Like the president said, he'd be willing to do last summer.
	Option two, plead the fifth and answer no questions, a maneuver he's blasted before.
	The mob takes the fifth.
	If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?
	Option three, fight the subpoena.
	That would open up a legal battle that could go all the way to the Supreme Court.
	Then there's option four, ignore the subpoena, which would put the president in uncharted territory.
	The likelihood of some kind of subpoena coming into play is becoming more and more real.
	It's not just the legal component.
	There's also a political piece of this that comes into play.
	If the president does, say, decide to fight a subpoena, he may face political fallout, especially with the midterms just around the corner.
	Ah, and there it is.
	There it is, finally.
	That's what it's all about.
	It's all about the midterms.
	So after the midterms, then what happens?
	Will it all go away?
	I think a lot of it will go away and they'll re-strategize because now you've got You have two things.
	First, you don't know what's going to happen because first you've got to see what the fallout of the midterms are.
	Do the Democrats take over the House or do they take over the Senate?
	Do they take over the Senate?
	Not the House.
	You don't know.
	Or do you not take over anything?
	What do you do then?
	Because that can happen.
	You don't know what the public is going to do because it could be some backlash here.
	Because this is getting ridiculous.
	But generally speaking, the people that voted for Hillary are going to vote for Democrat, period.
	And so then you get the lay of the land and then you can bring up the impeachment thing and start hounding it, pounding the pavement for the impeachment.
	I think that's what they're going to do personally.
	They're going to make impeachment, impeachment, but then they're not going to quite make it.
	And then they're going to use the argument, it's 2020.
	We couldn't impeach him.
	Let's just vote him out.
	At least that takes care of it.
	It saves the taxpayers money.
	Let's get rid of him by voting him out in 2020.
	And I think that will be a strategy.
	It really has ruined my television watching experience.
	It ruins everybody.
	And everything is, like, Kathy Griffin was on The View.
	I didn't even clip it.
	I'm so tired of it.
	It's completely nonsensical.
	And the telescreen is just filled with this.
	It's just puking at me.
	Kathy Griffin was also on the Seth Meyers show.
	Well, hold on.
	And I did clip it.
	Before you go there.
	But I don't want to play it.
	Good.
	Another guy I've got a problem with, and of course we only have lawyers in D.C., is, if it's not apparent to anyone, I just wanted to point out that the whole point of Stormy Daniels, the Stormy Daniels affair, is not about Stormy Daniels.
	It's about Michael Avenatti.
	This guy, and he's been, I see him everywhere.
	This is her lawyer.
	And I wanted to review one more time his background.
	A JD degree from George Washington University.
	There, yes, there he worked with Professor Jonathan Turley on constitutional issues relating to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
	So he's a FISA student.
	Graduated Order of the Coif.
	What?
	The Coif?
	He has nice hair.
	What is the order of the coif, C-O-I-F? What do you say, coif?
	Well, it refers to a hairdo.
	Avenatti later donated $250,000 to George Washington University and established the Michael J. Avenatti Award for Excellence in Pretrial and Trial Advocacy.
	Then he went to work for the research group run by Rahm Emanuel.
	Who later was, of course, White House Chief of Staff for President Barack Obama, currently Mayor of Chicago.
	And Avenatti worked on over 150 campaigns in 42 states, including multiple gubernatorial and congressional campaigns and Joe Biden's U.S. Senate campaign.
	So it's obvious this guy is a complete operative.
	And he's probably a spook or certainly has spook connections.
	Oh yeah.
	And this is about him capturing his, you watch, he'll have his own show.
	He's going, this guy is, he's running for stardom, this guy is.
	Here's two quick lists.
	Wouldn't surprise me.
	What do you think this means legally, if anything, for the president?
	And whenever you're with Don Lemon, I mean, you're kissing the ring for stardom right there, because, you know, Don is the overnight sensation.
	Oh yeah, overnight sensation.
	Well, I think that this shows that the president has significant potential criminal liability for felonies associated with campaign finance violations, as well as potential money laundering violations, as well as potential fraud violations relating to these law firm invoices that we've now heard about.
	I mean, this opens the Pandora's box, if you will, into serious, serious issues for Donald Trump.
	I said it weeks ago.
	I'm going to say it again.
	Mr.
	Trump will not serve out his term.
	No way, no how.
	He will be forced to ultimately resign.
	Okay, that's just one of his many statements.
	I'm sure people love hearing that.
	The President says that you and Stormy Daniels are exercising extortionist tactics.
	How do you react?
	Mr.
	President, you and your advisors and your lawyers need to bring it.
	Bring it.
	Because you continue to lie to the American people, and we are not going to tolerate it.
	Not today, not tonight, and any other day.
	This is an absolute disgrace, what has gone on here over the last few months.
	And by the way...
	If anybody thinks that Donald Trump wrote those tweets, then they have been paying attention over the last couple years.
	I don't know the lawyer that wrote this, but you can tell a lawyer wrote it because all you have to do is count the number of commas in the run-in sentence in the first tweet.
	Whoever the lawyer is that wrote this, that lawyer is also a moron.
	And there's a lot of interpretation of writing, and what was it with these questions that Mueller was supposed to have asked, and then turns out that they were misspelled, so that meant they came from Trump himself.
	I mean, it's just crazy.
	Because we know he can't spell.
	It's crazy.
	And what is...
	I thought this was all kind of like, isn't this going away?
	Is this all about him now?
	I mean, there's no real...
	Is there anything with the Stormy Daniels and the campaign finance cheating or whatever it is that they're trying to prove by this?
	Well, Giuliani came on one of the shows.
	I don't have it.
	I saw him on Hannity.
	And he was just calling.
	Yeah, he was going on and on.
	Oh, yeah.
	Again, I didn't clip it because it's just, it's all garbage.
	It's everything.
	It is.
	It's really garbage clips.
	It's just puke coming out of my screen.
	But yeah, what did he say?
	He said that, you know, for one thing, he said that Trump did pay back the lawyer for the $130,000.
	And it had nothing to do with campaign finance because it was out of his own pocket.
	Which I guess is different.
	It wasn't campaign money.
	I don't know.
	The whole thing is a mess.
	Can you imagine how Melania must feel?
	She hates it.
	You can just look at her.
	I was reading an article where she can't even open a window without Secret Service checking first.
	But she has no life.
	Poor woman.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's just pathetic.
	All right, play the Kathy Griffin thing.
	I need to hear it.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, well, I didn't clip the whole thing, obviously, because she goes on and on.
	She's this classic Kathy Griffin.
	She makes light of everything.
	She thinks she's hilarious.
	Now, the big news on her is that after she did, and this was a year ago, the picture with the president's head cut off, now she's sold out Carnegie Hall in some record amount of time, or 24 hours.
	Oh, yeah, everyone wants to hear.
	She's not that funny, but okay.
	Everyone wants to hear it because she's an anti-Trumper and everyone needs more anti-Trump comics because God knows there's not enough of them.
	And she's talking about the...
	I got two clips.
	I got her and then I got Juan Williams.
	They're talking about the Michelle...
	Michelle Wolfe stand-up.
	White House Correspondence Dinner, yeah.
	Or as Glenn Greenwald called it, the Michelle Wolfe speech.
	Yeah.
	And here she is, and she's just rambling in a normal way.
	Welcome, Kathy!
	Seth, I'm alive!
	It's wonderful to see you alive and well.
	I saw you Saturday.
	I want to start by asking about, you were at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
	Can you believe it?
	A year ago, I know.
	A year ago, I'm under a federal investigation for conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States.
	Oh, yeah!
	Two-month federal investigation.
	And then, last weekend, I get invited to the White House Correspondence Dinner.
	That's a full...
	Full circle.
	So you were in the room for Michelle Wolfe.
	I was in the room, but it all went down.
	It all went down.
	Based on you and Michelle Wolfe, I'm worried he's going to start deporting redheads.
	I feel like that might be his next step.
	He has a fear of gingers, as well as so many other issues.
	Oh my gosh, the news today about the doctor.
	Remember Dr.
	Bornstein?
	He said he was the healthiest doctor ever.
	Now saying that his office was raided because Trump uses Propecia?
	As if that's all?
	I'm alleging.
	I'm alleging.
	I'm not a scientist.
	Thank you for saying alleging now.
	You're obviously after your legal troubles.
	You're being very careful.
	I've had a lot of legal issues.
	Allegedly.
	Allegedly, my lawyers' kids are all going to college this year.
	Yes.
	And they're only five or six years old.
	Oh, that's great.
	But they still get to go to college.
	So, you were in the room.
	Did you have the sense that there would be the kind of backlash there was, you know, a few hours later watching the show?
	I mean, I was nervous because, obviously, the fact that Trump didn't go because he's such a pussy.
	And he couldn't even take it.
	Allegedly.
	I meant...
	All right, so, um...
	By the way, that's what I think the deal is.
	I think Stormy knows if she releases the n*** pic and there's, like, spots on it, or, like, growths, or, like...
	Like, that's really gonna make...
	Even the Republicans...
	All right, so I... Wow.
	Wow.
	Yeah, she goes on and on.
	That's...
	That kind of stuff is just...
	It's so fresh and new.
	This material has never been done before on network television.
	Dick jokes.
	She went on and on and on.
	And then they had...
	On the five, they ridiculed, they ridiculed, they took Michelle, at least two comic stand-up guys on that show, and they said that she sucked for a lot of different reasons, but But Juan Williams, you watched the thing and you saw the audience and the millennials were laughing and there wasn't a lot of reaction.
	You didn't hear a lot of laughing.
	But you listen to Juan Williams and he's on there.
	He's their token liberal.
	He's on the Fox show, The Five?
	Yeah, he's on The Five.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And so you listen to him, his interpretation of things, and it's like, holy mackerel, talk about dementia B. I held her hand.
	I said, you know, I think you have a great sense of humor because in the moment you worried that she was going to burst into tears or stand up and walk out and then it'd be a whole deal about that.
	And that's not what the White House Correspondents Association wants for their event.
	Where I disagree with you guys is she was hilarious.
	I think she was genius funny.
	I mean, and you don't understand, she was picking on the press a lot.
	She was picking on Democrats.
	I mean, she said about the idea that Franken is gone, she said Ted Kennedy probably says, hey, I murdered a girl, you know, that kind of thing.
	That was a good joke.
	You know what?
	And I think when I sit here with all you guys, you talk about liberal intolerance for a variety of voices and speech.
	Well, gee, here's a variety of voices.
	Here's a different perspective.
	And she went after, and probably her most telling thing was, she said, you know, you guys in the press, you created this monster, and now you're all making your books, your podcast, your TV shows making money.
	Yeah.
	I liked what she said there, too.
	Actually, Tina had listened to our last show, and she said, I didn't really understand.
	You really liked a lot of Michelle Wolf's routine.
	I said, it's not so much I thought it was funny, but I thought a lot of what she said was, if we're going to go all out, let's do it.
	Celebrating First Amendment, etc.
	And...
	Two other observations.
	Because I clipped a lot of that.
	Because I watched the whole thing in real time.
	And it had a horrible flow.
	It was very uncomfortable.
	It was not funny.
	And that doesn't mean that the jokes weren't funny.
	Sometimes the audience is wrong.
	The vibe is wrong.
	Your rhythm is wrong.
	Or everything is wrong.
	The whole concept, perhaps, is wrong.
	Her delivery was really amateurish.
	Delivery was certainly amateurish.
	But I recall specifically listening to some of these jokes by themselves, standalone.
	A lot of them are pretty good.
	In the total flow of everything, the whole thing was no good.
	One other observation.
	She's really more of a comedy writer.
	Yes.
	One other observation.
	And you had the same thing.
	And just deconstructing, we had this whole, oh!
	She attacked Sarah Sanders Huckabee's Singamabob.
	And that's because a lot of people, yourself included, because I recall that you said, she attacked her for her body.
	You know, she's burning fat.
	I think that her delivery was so bad, and it was probably not a good joke to write fat or facts.
	It's so close to each other, just listening to it.
	Because I know she said she burns up facts to create the perfect smoky eye or smoky eye shadow, whatever it is.
	But most people thought that she had said fat.
	You thought it too.
	And that's really what kicked off the storm.
	And then all the other things she said came into play.
	But I don't think I've heard anyone apologize and say, you know, I really got it wrong.
	She didn't really.
	Because what did she do?
	What?
	She compared her to an actress?
	Who she looks like?
	Come on.
	A fat actress.
	That's only if it's in your mind, my friend.
	I see the actress.
	I see an actress.
	The first thing I don't think is, oh, she's fat.
	I don't think that.
	Look, Sarah Sanders, the first thing that comes to mind is not she's fat.
	You've got to be careful there in California.
	Yeah, it's leaking into you.
	Well, Juan Williams went on to say that I don't know what you're talking about, but nobody laughing because he said everybody at his table was just rolling in the aisles.
	And I find that hard to believe.
	But it's possible he was sitting at a table where everybody thought it was hilarious.
	Well, also, we don't know how the micing was of the room.
	No, no, no.
	They shot the audience to an excessive amount.
	They shot the audience.
	Right while she was talking, it was a two-camera deal.
	And they were not laughing except the millennials.
	We both observed that.
	She was not getting the big laughs.
	Everybody who analyzed the thing, even if they were there, She was not getting the big laughs.
	Right.
	We can't rewrite history.
	She wasn't getting the big laughs.
	It was just a fact.
	Right.
	But, you know, why are we even discussing this?
	Well, you're the one that brought it up.
	You're the one who clipped it.
	No, I just clipped, I clipped, what's her name, who said I didn't want to play it, and I played it, and then I played Juan Williams.
	Right.
	Geez.
	Blame me.
	Don't blame the messenger.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. U.S.C. stands for Coked Up She Is Dvorak.
	Allegedly.
	Allegedly.
	Um, let's see here.
	Hold on.
	I gotta...
	There we go.
	Yeah, we do have a few people to thank.
	Um...
	No, you've got to say you're in the mornings first.
	What's wrong with you?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm not in my regular workstation here.
	I don't have my bucket.
	Wow, phoning it in.
	Not phoning it in.
	That wasn't phoning.
	Phoning it in would have been...
	I don't have my phone here either.
	I got no sound effects.
	All I got is the slide whistle.
	Well, then I will say in the morning to the troll room, noagendastream.com.
	Again, I will thank them for being my stunt brain.
	It is highly appreciated.
	And in the morning to Comic Strip Blogger.
	Yes, he's back on deck.
	He brought us the artwork for episode 1029.
	Batteries Not Included, the title of that one.
	And he's one of my favorites.
	The baby on board sign, manipulated to read no baby on board, and then a dog.
	Because that's what everyone has now, is dogs instead of babies.
	We will be a nation of dogs.
	The dog uprising.
	And we want to thank Comicship Blogger and all of the artists who diligently help us out and really make the show look good.
	Every single episode has new album art.
	It's attractive.
	It works great on the tweeters, on all the social nets.
	Oh, whoa, there's something new.
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	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Thank you very much for your courage and your participation as well.
	All right.
	I want to thank a few people starting with Sean Motil, M-O-T-Y-L. $333.34 in Minnesota.
	The enclosed $334.
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	In honor of my healthy amygdala, due to your years of hard work.
	After 25 years of working for the man, one of my fellow engineers and I quit our jobs and bought a business.
	It's a machine shop in Edgewater, Florida.
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	Machine shops.
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	Can you make it?
	And they can make it.
	Really?
	That's what machine shops do.
	Maybe you can send your recorder down there and have them drill the extra hole.
	I can drill my own damn hole.
	Yeah, they do tooling?
	They would have the equipment to drill the hole precisely.
	Yeah, they do tooling, water jet cutting, 3D printing, CNC milling and turning, complex CNC programming.
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	Sean.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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	Karma.
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	Sir Warren Carroll.
	Who I had lunch with.
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	There you go.
	Oh.
	3333.
	Is it Indianapolis?
	Is that where he's from?
	Yeah.
	Indianapolis.
	Sure.
	Indianapolis, Indiana.
	By the way, they have a tall thing in the middle of town.
	I don't know what it's called.
	It's got some statue at the top.
	But you can take an elevator right to the top of it.
	Nobody ever does that.
	It's kind of interesting to get good view.
	Indianapolis, NJNK, thanks for all you do.
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	Nice meeting you in person, Sir Warren.
	Victor Newell.
	Or Nahul.
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	D-bag call out to Marconius Fish.
	So he becomes a knight today.
	I need a new and better job for my well-being.
	Therefore, I need extra powerful jobs karma.
	Adam, please play three different versions of the various jobs karma jingle in a row.
	That's not something we do.
	I can do that.
	Why not?
	It might screw up the karma.
	Look, he wants it.
	Well, now you're asking for trouble, but okay.
	All right.
	It's a long string, but that's what I need.
	This coincides with the 1030 code of excessive use of radio.
	Ah, see?
	He has a whole concept behind it.
	P.S. I finished up a road trip to D.C. and saw tent cities there, too, even in Georgetown University area.
	Jobs and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	You've got karma.
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	Who knows?
	Maybe he'll be hired as CEO. Everybody gets to chew gum now.
	Sir James of the Mountains, $250.93, becomes our first associate executive producer with the world's longest note.
	ITM from Sir James of the Mountains, still waiting for the other sea to sky of Vancouver-type douchebags to step up to the plate.
	Insert douchebag call out here.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, okay.
	You should, as gas here, is just shy of $5 US per gallon.
	Wow.
	Speaking of expensive gas, Adam, might be happy to know that I see the No Agenda artwork on my newer model F-150 sync screen.
	It does pass on the artwork on some podcast clients, and I love me some NA artwork.
	This is a happy birthday donation for me donation.
	For May 5th, thank you, John, for not making a cheap Sanco de Mayo promotion in this latest newsletter.
	Not only is the cultural appropriation, not only is it, it's an event not observed in Mexico.
	Of course it's not observed in Mexico.
	A marketing promotion by Mexican beer and tequila marketers, it's a scam.
	May 5th was all mine until about 20 years ago, bastards.
	But John, try it again if needed.
	You may get a rest donation, a real donation, a rant donation from me at the minimum.
	I suggest boobs promotion are more profitable.
	Thanks for the great content.
	I no longer have much use for TV or radio.
	Value for value indeed.
	A tip of the hat to all end of show and jingle producers, eh?
	Some Trump Jobs birthday goat karma, please.
	You went from like a mobster to, I don't know, to like a Mexican accent to a Canadian.
	You threw an A there?
	Man, we need to get you back on your nuts.
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	Trump's Jobs Charma.
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	Nicholas Robinson in Somerville, Massachusetts.
	That's $201.02.
	He doesn't seem to have a note.
	Okay, let's go on to the next.
	You don't see his note?
	Oh.
	Loving Adam's OTG updates and also the dirty 30s slang.
	Not all young people are completely absorbed into their phones yet.
	Really?
	Well, that's why you're listening to the show.
	Yeah.
	Keep up the amazing work.
	Truly, it's the best podcast in the universe, Sir Carey's.
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	Well, of course not everyone is absorbed.
	We're trying to save people, and it's like pushing water uphill with a broom.
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	I could use a de-douching?
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	ITM, the recent newsletter, got me the swift kick in the ass that I needed to donate again.
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	You guys are a welcome distraction and a much needed laugh most days.
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	Absolutely.
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	And call out Eric Goodmanson as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	He's nervous the show will end and he still hasn't donated.
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	Yeah.
	Man, I know...
	I got some sliding wheels.
	I can go get other stuff, but it's over on the other side.
	It's over on the other workstation.
	Do you have to ride your electric scooter to the other side?
	Do you need a Segway?
	How big is this place you got over there?
	It's big enough for two of those houses.
	Yeah.
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	Got another glitch going on in the world.
	Lots of stories about it.
	I hadn't heard about it.
	Actually, it happened a few weeks ago.
	There was a computer glitch in the UK, Gitmo Nation East, with the National Health Systems Computer Scheduling System.
	This is Parliament.
	It's so bad, Parliament has to talk about it.
	PHE analysis of trial data from the service found that there was a computer algorithm failure dating back to 2009.
	I love that.
	This is so much better than the press reporting on as a glitch.
	A computer algorithm failure.
	In 2009?
	Mm-hmm.
	The latest estimates I've received from PHE is that as a result of this between 2009 and the start of 2018 an estimated 450,000 women aged between 68 and 71 were not invited to their final breast screening.
	At this stage it is unclear whether any delay in diagnosis will have resulted in any avoidable harm or death, and that is one of the reasons I'm ordering an independent review to establish the clinical impact.
	Our current best estimate, which comes with caveats as it's based on statistical modelling rather than patient reviews, and because there is currently no clinical consensus about the benefits of screening for this age group, is that there may be between 135 and 270 women who had their lives shortened as a result.
	I'm advised that it is unlikely to be more than this range and maybe considerably less.
	However, tragically, there are likely to be some people in this group who would have been alive today.
	I find this very sinister, what they're doing.
	They're taking, as he says by his own admission, now I want a clinical test to know if that final breast exam when you're older than 68, if that'll save your life.
	And he's presupposing...
	By saying, clearly, somewhere 200, 400 women, they died!
	This is a ruse and a ploy for more money for their national health system, which they already say has problems.
	But now they're spinning this into, well, 200 to 400 women may have died because of this glitch, this algo failure in 2009.
	It's very sinister to go after more money in this fashion.
	This is zero proof, zero facts.
	But yes, now we're going to study and make sure we do give them all these exams by freeing up more money for this.
	It's just all about money for their clients.
	Or tax.
	And hell with the homeless.
	I don't know what the homelessness situation is in the UK, actually.
	Or sleeping rough, as they call it there.
	You're not homeless, you're sleeping rough.
	Here, that means you're not wearing underwear.
	No?
	Yeah, here.
	Yeah.
	You're sleeping rough.
	Staying in Europe, there is huge concerns.
	Some outrage.
	The kids are all troubled.
	I've been seeing...
	I don't have any English-speaking reports, but I saw a couple Dutch ones about the new policy from Facebag, which is through their subsidiary WhatsApp.
	And this is the report.
	If you're a WhatsApp user in Europe, you'll soon be prompted to agree new terms of service and a privacy policy.
	Most of us won't take the time to read the fine print from the popular messaging service, so what should you know?
	Reuters' Paul Sandals says if you're under 16, you'll be banned from the app.
	If you're under 16, under the new regulations you need to get permission for certain amounts of data to be shared and that requires WhatsApp to collect more information which they don't want to do.
	Raising the age limit will help WhatsApp comply with new regulations.
	So what are they?
	New data privacy laws coming into force across the EU next month will be the biggest overhaul of online privacy since the birth of the Internet.
	It will give Europeans the right to know what data is stored on them and the right to have it deleted.
	So you can request a report.
	It will tell you the number, the device you use.
	WhatsApp say they need this information to offer the service.
	It's for their own technical reasons.
	It also gives you your contacts and the groups and any numbers you've blocked.
	WhatsApp's minimum age of use will remain 13 years in the rest of the world, in line with its parent, Facebook.
	This may be the Achilles heel for services, certainly for Facebook.
	And I believe that this change, and the way I understand it is, we want to raise the age limit to 16 because above 16, according to the General Data Protection Regulations, then we can ask all of this stuff of these kids.
	Because, of course, there's a big difference between a 13-year-old and a 16-year-old.
	And the founder of WhatsApp, who we still work with in FaceBag, left over this.
	John Coombe.
	K-O-U-M. Why did he leave?
	Because they weren't...
	Hacking enough 13-year-olds or what?
	Yeah, he left because he disagreed with the extra information they wanted to scrape, I'll just use that word, from their WhatsApp users.
	The whole idea behind WhatsApp was so beautiful when it started.
	And really, this guy, I mean, come on, you're a douchebag.
	You sold to Facebag.
	What do you expect?
	I loved it when it started.
	You paid 99 cents a year and you had secure encrypted communications and that was it.
	And they had 300 million people.
	They were doing 300 million a year in revenue.
	I'm not sure what the costs were.
	I'm sure if they're sitting on top of Amazon, AWS or something, they weren't making a large profit margin.
	But that was an honest service.
	And so I didn't know that FaceBag was taking my WhatsApp contact list and doing more slicing and dicing with that.
	I mean, I'm not surprised, but I don't recall that being a thing.
	Well, I never use it, so I don't pay much attention.
	But you should see the children.
	Do they have reporters going up on the street saying, so, you know, like 12 and 13-year-old girls, and they're all huddled around, and like, you know, they're WhatsAppping with their thumbs and their bent necks and their horrible posture.
	It's like, well, you know that you won't be allowed to use it because you're not 16?
	And they go, you can't live without WhatsApp.
	Everything happens to WhatsApp.
	WhatsApp, what do you need to do with WhatsApp?
	It's incredible.
	And of course, Facebook knows bloody well that the kids aren't going to...
	They're all going to lie.
	They're all going to say they're 16.
	Bloody well.
	Bloody well.
	But this could be an Achilles heel for them.
	Let's play...
	First of all, let's start with the Facebook ad.
	Have you seen it?
	No, I don't believe so.
	It's playing on all the time.
	Playing everywhere.
	Go on, play.
	Sorry.
	We came here for the friends.
	And we got to know the friends of our friends.
	Then our old friends from middle school, our mom, our ex, and our boss joined forces to wish his happy birthday.
	Then we discovered our uncle used to play in a band and realized he was young once too.
	And we found others just like us.
	And just like that, we felt a little less alone.
	But then something happened.
	We had to deal with spam, clickbait, fake news, and data misuse.
	That's going to change.
	From now on, Facebook will do more to keep you safe and protect your privacy.
	So we can all get back to what made Facebook good in the first place.
	Friends.
	Because when this place does what it was built for, then we all get a little closer.
	Another poorly executed Apple ad.
	How does this jive with their hookup program they're launching?
	Now, here is that they had the recent Facebook Developers Conference here in the city.
	Ah, F8. Or in San Jose.
	And this is a clip from...
	This is a Facebook Clear Browser clip.
	And I want to preface it with...
	I guess Zuckerberg is out there talking about all these changes they're going to make.
	And they never – the guys reporting this weren't as like aghast as I was because I was looking at the slides and what it said and what they're doing.
	And when I heard this, I said to myself, what?
	Facebook has unveiled some new features at its annual developers conference in San Jose.
	5,000 people were on hand yesterday for the first day of the F8 conference at the McHenry Convention Center.
	In his keynote speech, CEO Mark Zuckerberg acknowledged the data mining scandal involving Cambridge Analytica.
	He said Facebook will now offer a new privacy control feature.
	The social media platform will now let users clear their browsing history.
	It's a simple control where you can clear your browsing history.
	What you've clicked on, the websites you've visited, and so on.
	And we're going to call it Clear History.
	And here's what the new...
	Some other new features include a more simplified Facebook Messenger app and video chatting.
	Plus, there is a new dating feature where users can create a dating profile on the app and communicate with potential matches.
	Okay.
	Now, here's what got me.
	I had no idea, and when I saw what they're showing on the screens, it's apparently true, Facebook, besides Google and besides everybody else, is actually tracking your browser history and storing it at Facebook.
	Now, here's what I'm a little confused about.
	It's not clear from the report.
	In the Facebook app, When you click on a link in the Facebook app, it opens up a browser inside the Facebook app.
	And I believe on iOS, it's a version of Safari.
	I'm not quite sure exactly how they're doing that.
	So, do you mean that they're tracking all of my browsing history, even when I'm using the regular browser?
	It says on the screen, erase all offline.
	Facebook browser history.
	What?
	Huh.
	How did they do that?
	You tell me.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe there's a deal.
	I don't know.
	And maybe I'm wrong.
	Maybe they're just using that internal browser that they open up.
	But that's not what it says on the screen.
	It says erase all off Facebook.
	Huh.
	I got a browser history.
	Yeah, I got to look into this.
	I got to find out what this means.
	Well, it's just disgusting.
	Now, the last clip I have, I said, why don't you use Facebook?
	I use it for advertising, but I wouldn't ever be a member.
	You know, people say, well, there's the end of Facebook.
	People are going to be bailing out left and right.
	And I, of course, say that I don't think so.
	I think a few people will be bailing out.
	And some people won't.
	And I've seen the examples early on when people would bail out.
	I don't know.
	It's just killing me.
	I can't use this.
	I'm quitting Facebook.
	And then three months later, they're back on Facebook.
	So I'm not a big believer.
	Now, I did find somebody they interviewed during this special report on the Facebook conference.
	They found some girl.
	She's got kind of a cute, a forward voice, very nice voice.
	She could be a podcaster.
	And she's going to quit Facebook or she's quitting Facebook or she quit Facebook.
	And I think she probably will stay off Facebook and some people do that.
	But I just thought it would be interesting to hear her talk about why she's getting off Facebook and what, you know, is she ever going to come back?
	This is the quitter girl.
	I actually removed like 90% of my personal data from Facebook last year.
	Really?
	So I got really uncomfortable, and I removed it from my phone because I got really uncomfortable with it.
	It seemed like it was listening to me.
	Uh-huh.
	And when I wasn't even surfing, it was tracking what I was talking about with friends or family.
	So that was a big concern for you?
	Oh, yeah.
	The idea that something is tracking everything I'm doing or thinking makes me very uncomfortable.
	Well, now that Facebook is trying to make amends and keep it more private, will you jump back on?
	No.
	No?
	How come?
	Honestly, my life is better without it.
	I connect more with my friends and my family by making an effort in real life.
	There is a dating app that they're starting as well.
	Just heard that on the radio.
	No.
	No?
	No.
	I got dating apps.
	Don't need another.
	Nope.
	You know, that announcement was pretty interesting because, you know, it's obvious that, you know, people will put a lot more information in their profile on a dating app or maybe certainly different information than they would put into the Facebook app itself or the Facebook profile.
	But also to see, you know, Match.com, you know, their stock tanked severely.
	Well, it didn't.
	It went down 10%.
	Do you think it'll be successful?
	Do you think it'll work?
	No, I don't.
	I agree with you.
	I think it won't work, and I think this actually may be a big mistake they're making.
	How is it a mistake?
	It's just an experiment.
	It all depends on how far they roll it out.
	People are weird.
	They get really weirded.
	Just look around you.
	Look at the stuff you can say, and people believe it after a while.
	I don't know.
	I have a feeling that I know that you don't agree and you think that I'm delusional about people not wanting to be members of this anymore.
	But it's pretty strong.
	The human being does want to stay alive and it's clear that we're all collectively dying from this stuff.
	So your quitter girl, I think there's more like her.
	And the more stories you have like her, the more people start to think about it.
	And you get the stories that Instagram, which is another Facebook property, is training their AI deep learning algos, machine learning, on facial recognition.
	Thanks to all of your pictures, which is a beautiful place to do it, no doubt.
	And then the only other counter noise you'll hear about what else can you do.
	And my thing is, why does everyone think that you have to be on Facebook and that is the internet and you have to be on the social media?
	NPR tried to do a report about some alternatives.
	And I think most people here understand the concept of noagendasocial.com, the Mastodon, where you have your own server, your own community, and then you confederate.
	So it's decentralized, and you can connect with other people.
	Listen how NPR would connect with other communities.
	Let's put it that way.
	Listen to how NPR tries to explain your alternatives and it just shows you how piss-poor the media is because most of you know what you're talking about when it comes to this.
	Two-thirds of American adults use Facebook and three-quarters of those use it every day.
	I'm one of them, even though I'm uncomfortable with how much the company knows about me and how I'm targeted with advertising based on that data.
	But I use Facebook for my job and I also don't want to miss out on party invites from my friends.
	Wow.
	That's your press.
	I don't want to miss out on party invites from my friends.
	I've got to be on the face bag.
	Didn't we just used to send a calendar invite?
	Are you taking my side in this argument by bringing these issues up?
	It has nothing to do with sides.
	I'm surprised that this journo really won't get off.
	She's admitting it because of the party invites.
	Sorry, that's just crazy.
	There's so many parties going on all the time.
	So despite my misgivings, it's hard to think of quitting the platform for good.
	But Facebook is only 14 years old.
	And knowing what we know now about the flaws in its design, how might we go about creating the next social network, one that doesn't have those same problems?
	I really think Facebook is destructive.
	That's Kathy O'Neill.
	She's a mathematician and the author of a book about the potentially dangerous consequences of algorithms.
	She says she imagines the next social network as having the best parts of Facebook without the worst parts of Facebook.
	Basically a town square where people can interact, they can keep up with each other, but without sort of commercial predatory aspect.
	Her envisioned social network would have a moderator curating the conversation, and it would be a non-profit.
	But she doesn't really want the government to run the system either.
	What are people...
	I want a system with a moderator.
	Is that really what people want?
	Is that what they think is going to make them safe and it won't cause controversy?
	I don't think half the users even know what a moderator is.
	Yeah, they do because they're also on Reddit.
	They get it.
	They know what a mod is.
	They have a moderator curating the conversation and it would be a non-profit.
	But she doesn't really want the government to run the system either because then they'd probably collect too much data about all of us.
	Another person thinking about building a better social network is Ethan Zuckerman.
	He thinks it's a problem that Facebook is so big.
	Facebook has an awful lot of power by virtue of the fact that you have a single company making decisions for about 2 billion people.
	He says the next iteration of social networks could be decentralized instead of run by one company.
	A good example of this is a network that already exists, an open source software called Mastodon.
	You can install it, put it up on a web server.
	At that point, you're running a Mastodon node.
	It's a sort of replacement Twitter where anyone can create their own community with their own rules.
	Another problem that he'd fix?
	And she doesn't explain the beauty of the system.
	Do you honestly expect them to explain that, which is up for interpretation?
	It's not up for interpretation.
	She missed the entire point of the federated decentralized systems.
	What she just spoke about, she missed the entire point in her report.
	Oh, it's just a Twitter clone you can set up for yourself.
	Yeah.
	Do I expect it?
	No, but I do need to point it out.
	Why else are we doing this show?
	I might as well just not show up.
	I can just not show up.
	You explaining it, which you do all the time, It's not the same as condemning them for not explaining it because they don't know what the hell they're talking about.
	They're idiots.
	I did preface it by saying this is what happens.
	And when you know about something, now you can hear how full of crap the news is, the media.
	Where anyone can create their own community with their own rules.
	Another problem that he'd fix?
	We don't really have control over the algorithms that sort our information and choose what we see or don't see.
	Zuckerman and his MIT colleagues have built an experimental platform called Gobo, which allows you to tinker with the algorithms on your Facebook and Twitter feeds as you see fit.
	Hey man, we need a cool name for this social net we're making.
	What domain name's available?
	I don't know.
	Let's throw something into the generator.
	Gobo!
	Yeah, that's it.
	...called Gobo, which allows you to tinker with the algorithms on your Facebook and Twitter feeds as you see fit.
	So you can say things like, I'd like to hear from more women.
	Mute all the men.
	I'd like less rude content and more civil content.
	I asked Kathy O'Neill if she could imagine a scenario in which a real alternative to Facebook emerges.
	And she said yes.
	And how many tens of thousands of people are you going to employ who are going to detect this so-called less outrageous posts?
	Just want civic posts.
	Is this all going to be algo?
	Why do people want algos?
	How about reverse chronological order?
	Isn't that the simplest?
	You're asking me?
	Including one where people simply lose interest.
	It was kind of a temporary insanity that we all went through.
	Yes.
	Where we wanted to do this in the first place.
	And in that future, perhaps we'll look up from our phones, walk outside, and hang out together in real life.
	No, no.
	What is she thinking?
	She's thinking that by not explaining the alternatives, we're going to give it all up.
	That's what she's thinking.
	She's an idiot.
	Total, total...
	Now you're finally taking my side.
	No, I'm not...
	I'm on your side.
	It's just like, wow, you know?
	Yeah, I don't know what to tell you.
	No, nothing.
	I'm very disturbed by all this.
	I mean, I... The thing about the racing browser history got me upset.
	Yeah.
	And who knows what else they're doing.
	And the way they're so cavalier about it.
	I mean, Zuckerberg doesn't care.
	I mean, he's up there and he's just...
	Thinking, well, the company's the company and we got to – I honestly believe that he's not sitting there rubbing his hands and going, I've got him now.
	He's thinking this is all good because people want – they want advertising that's tailored to their needs.
	They want information that's tailored to their needs.
	They want all these things.
	And so we have to spy on them.
	And we're not doing it for evil reasons.
	But we're going to spy on them to give them the ads they want.
	And we're doing them a huge favor.
	They don't get this anyplace else.
	It's the best place for ads you want.
	Yeah.
	And so he's sincere.
	I don't believe for a minute that this guy is...
	No.
	I just don't think he's got it in him to be like, oh, screw our users.
	Here's something I've noticed now that I don't have the apps.
	In fact, I'm barely using FaceBag.
	I'll check it once every other day.
	That's about it.
	All I need.
	And just to see if there's anything in the no agenda groups.
	And what happens, this is my experience, when you stop using it, the algos effectively shut down.
	And so when I go back on, it gives me maybe five stories and then there's stuff I've seen before.
	So I think that's a crucial mistake.
	If you want to keep someone on your platform, then when they come back in, you want to surprise them and remind them why they should have been here.
	They don't have any.
	It doesn't seem apparent they have anything like that.
	That's a complete violation of all the marketing rules.
	Thank you.
	So it's kind of...
	No, when you come back on, they should be going, oh God, where were you?
	We missed you so much, Mr.
	Adam.
	Yes, none of that.
	No snazzy videos, no party invites, no, you know, like you've been friends with this person for 20 years, none of that.
	No.
	I think if people do start to diminish use, it becomes less interesting.
	The ALGO apparently does not know what to do when you're not using it.
	It just starts to slowly shut down.
	Try it.
	Not you, but other people.
	They should try it.
	It's very interesting.
	Meanwhile...
	Well, you're right.
	It's very weird, too.
	It's not the way to do things.
	Zuckerberg has been summoned to the parliament...
	In the UK? With a threat?
	What's a threat?
	Oh, they can shut him down in the UK, yeah.
	Head of Public Policy, Facebook UK. Dear Mr.
	Simpson, thank you for helping to arrange Mike Schrupfer's appearance in front of the committee yesterday.
	As you may have seen from my press statements, the committee feels that the evidence lacked many of the important details that we need.
	We therefore restate our invitation to Mark Zuckerberg following reports that he will be giving evidence to the European Parliament in May.
	We would like Mr.
	Zuckerberg to come to London during his European trip.
	We would like the session here to take place by 24th of May.
	It is worth noting that while Mr.
	Zuckerberg does not normally come under the jurisdiction of the UK Parliament, he will do so next time he enters the country.
	Yeah, baby!
	Yeah, next time you try to enter the country, you will be subject to us, bitch.
	So we hope that he will respond positively to our requests, but if not, the committee will resolve to issue a formal summons for him to appear when he is next in the UK. Buttslam!
	Well, he has to go to the UK eventually.
	Now, what I think, I think that Zuckerberg is a little naive about a lot of this stuff.
	And I think that because he thinks he did a slam dunk at Congress and just wowed him, that he could do the same thing in England, which is anything but the case, because there are a bunch of a-holes there that don't have any of these, you know, they're not just genteel as members of Congress might be toward a guy like this, because they don't have any respect for the rich entrepreneur.
	Right.
	They have respect for a rich or even a poor member of the upper classes, but that's different.
	So they're just going to rake him over the coals.
	He'll be in tears.
	I would be worried if I were him.
	I wouldn't do it.
	I'd say, you know, I don't need to go to England.
	There's nothing there for me.
	Screw it.
	I'll just fly over it all the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile, it now has come to light that Twitter also sold data to Cambridge Analytica, to the same guy.
	And we should mention that they've just filed for bankruptcy.
	Yes, I have the report.
	The company accused of harvesting the data of more than 87 million Facebook users says it is shutting down.
	Cambridge Analytica made the announcement Wednesday.
	In March, the company was accused of using data that was harvested from Facebook users without their permission.
	That data was then shared with a number of political campaigns.
	In a statement, Cambridge Analytica blamed the media for driving away all of its clients and said it had been vilified for legal activities.
	The company says it intends to file for bankruptcy in the U.S. and the U.K. Always a good way to get rid of the evidence.
	Podesta did it.
	Everyone says, oh, I think we'll just get rid of ourselves here.
	We're just done.
	Just file for bankruptcy.
	I would be remiss if I didn't mention this new study done by San Francisco State University Professor of Health Education, Eric Pieper, and Associate Professor of Health Education, Richard Harvey.
	Quote, the behavioral addiction of smartphone use begins forming neurological connections in the brain in similar ways to how opioid addiction is experienced by people taking Oxycontin for pain relief.
	And they've come up with their own name for what it leads to, which is loneliness, anxiety, and depression.
	They say it is directly relatable to the phone use, and they call it phoneliness.
	Phone what?
	Phoneliness.
	Instead of loneliness.
	Phone lingus?
	Instead of loneliness, they call it phoneliness.
	Phoneliness.
	Phoneliness, yes.
	Oh, please.
	It makes it sound like you're a phony.
	Well, it looks good when you read it.
	Phoneliness.
	Phoneliness.
	Yeah, with a PH. Well, I'm all in on this, of course.
	You know me.
	The phone's not anywhere here.
	In fact, I lost it again in the house.
	So I haven't used it for a while.
	I don't know where it is.
	I guess I'll start looking for it.
	That's the best way to go off the grid.
	I just lost my phone.
	I don't know where it is.
	That loses it constantly.
	I put it down and then it piles up over it and I can't find it.
	And since I keep it turned off, I can't bring it.
	So it's a two-edged sword.
	I'll find it eventually.
	Yeah, phoneliness.
	I don't know why people haven't figured this out.
	They're walking around.
	You saw it, you know, where you were last time.
	It's just people looking at their phone constantly.
	What's going on on your phone that you're looking at it all the time?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	That's another thing.
	All we're doing on this show is pointing out the obvious and getting nowhere.
	I don't think we've gotten it.
	We've gotten people to stop listening to MSN. Yeah.
	MSM. M5M. M5M. That's true.
	And we got a lot of people that comment on that.
	They don't have to listen to the news anymore.
	But we've done nothing about social media.
	We've done nothing about phones.
	Nothing.
	Zip.
	Well, I think we have.
	The mechanism is too strong.
	The mechanism is too strong.
	Yeah, it's like trying to get someone to kick a drug addiction.
	Yeah, just by telling them, hey, you know, it's bad for you, and there's all the reasons, and you know this, and you know...
	It doesn't help.
	No.
	So you've got to take...
	You know what?
	Phoneliness clinics.
	Phoneliness clinics.
	No agenda phoneliness clinics.
	Yeah, it's called the Apple Store.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	And we do have a few people to thank for show 1030, which means you run the radio too long.
	Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades, $133.33.
	He's in Sammamish.
	And he says no jingles.
	Yeah, well, we're not doing jingles at this segment.
	Timothy Pierce, $111.
	Mark Drinkwater, $101.01 in Inglewood, New Zealand.
	John Robinet, $100.
	Lon Baker, $100.
	Ryan Brady, $100.
	Baron Ladequin in Houston, Texas, $100.
	He's got some little things there to do with, having to do with boobs.
	Ah.
	The days of the pre, the old phone.
	Robert Cohen, $88.92.
	Anthony Fields, $808.
	Okay, I was looking at it, like, what is this?
	Y, like parenthesis, bracket, Y. Now I see it.
	I didn't realize that was the old school emoji for boobs.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to do it.
	So it's left bracket, period, Y, period, right bracket.
	Beautiful.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's a classic.
	I've learned something.
	Oh, I thought you would have been one of those guys using it.
	I will now.
	Because, you know, Tina has her iPhone still, and, you know, I know she's sending me emojis because I get a little square.
	Just a, you know, a character that goes, I don't know what that is.
	I can't translate it.
	And so I just send back, you know, XXX. I'm emojiless.
	Can't communicate with them.
	So the old emoticons, emoticons, my friend.
	I'm back to emoticons.
	Let's go back the old way, emoticons.
	Yeah, that was, yes, when everyone had the same.
	Yeah.
	We're equal.
	Globalness.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Because emojis, it's like system to system, they vary.
	Yeah, they look very different.
	There's no universal emojis.
	Except for...
	That work on everything.
	Emoticons, that's universal.
	And it's much more creative, let's be honest.
	Robert Cohen, 8892.
	Anthony Fields, a boob.
	West Roxbury, Massachusetts.
	Boo.
	Got a lot of boobs.
	That was on the newsletter, so I think everyone should hit this one, and so that's why we got it.
	Melissa Hodge is a boob.
	Stephen Buttkay boob.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Viscount of the Moon, Locust, North Carolina.
	Boob.
	8008.
	A lot of these.
	Josh, I didn't even promote it.
	Josh, it was an Easter egg.
	Josh Cox in Austin.
	Yes.
	Went down the street from you.
	Yes.
	I love the newsletter with the boobs in it, he writes.
	And holy mackerel, the song titles.
	Yeah, the song titles on that album were dynamite.
	They really are.
	If you haven't gotten a subscription yet, any of our sites has a link so you can subscribe to the Noah Jetta newsletter.
	It is an outstanding product, well worth the price of admission, which is zero.
	Yeah, it's free.
	People still unsubscribe.
	So annoying, man.
	It's so annoying, this newsletter.
	Two times a week.
	I must unsubscribe.
	Superfluous the Octoroon.
	Boob.
	Sir Alexander Scott, 808, boob.
	Houston, Texas.
	Stephen Fitzpatrick, boob.
	Robert Cohen, boob.
	Max Wyndham Jr.
	in the Woodlands, Texas.
	They have a town with a the in it?
	The Woodlands?
	Maybe.
	Apparently, it's in Texas.
	Ron Jordan, 7293.
	Sir Gottnaten, Sebastopol, California, 6969.
	Phil Rhodes, I need to read this.
	The day has finally come where I can hold my head high as I join my brothers at the roundtable.
	I would like to thank my smoking hot wife Natalie and human resource Maya for listening to me recite your greatest clips after each show since 2012.
	He apparently lives in the shed in the backyard.
	I would like to be known as Sir Philip of the Northern Lakes.
	Thanks, boys, for all you do.
	Phil Rodas, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
	P.S. All U.S. dollars.
	None of this Australian play money rubbish.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	And look forward to your celebration coming up momentarily.
	Lucas Van Eck, 55-55.
	Alexei Walensky, double nickels on the dime.
	You miss Sven Middlecope?
	Sven Middlecope, you're right.
	In Delft Gauw?
	Yeah, Delft Gauw.
	Delft Gauw in the Netherlands.
	Yes.
	He wants to donate in Iranian real next time.
	Okay.
	Lucas Van Eck, Alexei Walensky, 55-10.
	Sir Tom Derry, 55-10.
	Paul van der Kordelar in Jumudin.
	Aymoudin.
	Allen and S, $55 even.
	Allen D. Peterson, $51.
	Carla Kruger, $50.50.
	Dennis Brown in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
	Josh Defabo in Parts Unknown.
	I think it's a Sir.
	Scott E. Knight in Las Wages, Nevada.
	These are all $50 donors, name and location.
	David McClain in Steelville, Missouri.
	Marco Castellanos in Guatemala.
	David McLean, who you skipped, he says, I can't see any way that a show like this or recorded work can ever make any money.
	The value-for-value model is the only one that can work.
	Why do I think this?
	Well, today I typed in the name of my band, Polaris, followed by the name of one of our songs released about ten years ago, Evening Tide.
	It popped up right away on YouTube.
	Not just this song, but the entire album with good sound quality, too.
	We had made the recording and CDs to sell at our gigs, which we did.
	Now it's out there for free somehow.
	Does it make us money?
	No.
	I don't know exactly what to think.
	I am happy that someone at least is listening to the songs.
	So he's confused.
	I understand what he's saying, though.
	Yes, and thank you for supporting us.
	It's the only way that can work.
	Can't monetize the network.
	Yeah, and thank you for the tip on the free album.
	Yay!
	Yeah, you see that.
	YouTube not only has all these free albums of current music, but right now they may have the biggest archive of old-time music, the jazz from 1925 to 1935.
	Yeah, that's all pre-ASCAP BMI, so they get away with that.
	They don't have to pay any royalties, I don't think.
	I believe that's true, but you don't find a collection like this in any one place.
	So you're saying it's a good thing.
	There's a decent collection on archive.org, but it doesn't hold a candle to what you can get on YouTube in terms of you want to hear, you know, Ben Selvin.
	You want to find some old Al Boley.
	I mean, whatever you want, you can find almost all their material, except very rarely something is missing from the collection.
	It's unbelievable.
	Everyone just keeps posting it.
	And then guys say, well, you know, I don't like that copy.
	It's not a very good copy.
	And they post another version, which is better quality.
	Isn't that great?
	It's madness.
	I heard an interesting story just about YouTube and revenues.
	You remember when Taylor Swift, she was like, I'm not going to put my album on Spotify and I won't give it to iTunes and I'm not giving it to Pandora and I'm holding it back.
	You remember that?
	Yep.
	At the time, Taylor Swift's mom was calling up all of these outlets, including YouTube, from what I've heard, allegedly, and was saying, if you want us to be on your system at all, you've got to send me half a million dollars.
	Just for the privilege of them saying, yes, you can do it.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Have your mom do it.
	That's the best part.
	Well, mom and dad are a couple of marketing geniuses.
	Fantastic.
	Onward.
	All $50 donors.
	Hey, sir, what's his face over there?
	$50.
	I believe he's in Canada or California.
	Canada.
	Tyler Schimpf in Bothell, Washington.
	$50.
	And then Anonymous.
	$50.
	And last but not least, Bradley Ledden.
	$50.
	50.
	And none of us also, once they hit a jobs cover, we'll put that at the end for them.
	Okay.
	And that concludes our group of producers, well-wishers, supporters, and everything in between for show.
	10.30.
	You've been on the radio too long.
	And we want to thank everybody who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity or you're on one of our subscription programs.
	Thank you very much.
	And I do want to say, John, I mean, this was a good showing.
	Now, of course, people are donating to support the show, but I think you motivated them with the newsletter.
	So, you know, that's something to be thought about.
	More boobs seems to work.
	Could have been the boobs, one of the two.
	We will have another program, and we've been on the radio too long, apparently, so we'll see how much longer it lasts.
	1031 will be held on Sunday.
	Remember us at...
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And for those of them and you who need it...
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	We have Boyd Zero, who we need to congratulate.
	He celebrated his 34th on April 25th.
	Thanks for letting us know, bro.
	And Sir James of the Mountains celebrates his birthday on May 5th.
	And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	And then we have one, two, three nightings.
	It's about time.
	I'm happy we have them.
	So if I can have your blade for a moment, sir.
	There you go.
	Yes.
	Let me grab mine.
	Here we go.
	And we need Sean Modell up on stage here, along with Victor Null and Phil Rodis.
	Gentlemen, thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda show.
	In the amount of $1,000 or more, that means you now have a spot at our exclusive roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames, and I hereby proudly pronounce a KB, Sir Migdala.
	Sir Eagle I Know and Sir Philip of the Northern Lakes and you got a special snot from John C. DeVore.
	That sounded fantastic for you!
	Besides that, Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Rabbit Mead and Goat's Milk, Dr.
	Pepper and a Quick Handy, Boobs and Sneaky Tofu, Breast Milk and Pablum, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Bong Hits and Bourbon.
	We've got Mutton and Mead.
	Right over there.
	That mute button, that's what I forgot to send you.
	Yeah, I didn't have my mute button.
	I can't mute anything.
	It was mucus.
	It was dripping down my face.
	10.30, it means does not conform to rules and regulations.
	Also means illegal use of radio.
	Danger, caution, use caution.
	10.31 coming up.
	Is lie detector available?
	That's all good, John, but just stick with the boobs.
	Also, Crime in Progress.
	And there's 1031ABCDE, which is Robbery, Burglary, Homicide, Kidnapping.
	Why don't you just write an essay?
	I miss your essays.
	Write an essay.
	Okay.
	I like essays.
	You do, apparently.
	Kanye West has been in the news, or whatever they call news these days.
	He's on all the channels.
	And he showed up on TMZ.
	I didn't see any of that.
	But there was an extra bit on TMZ, which I don't think it was broadcast.
	There's no reason it could be broadcast because of all the profanity.
	But it was rather interesting to hear what Kanye had to say about his coming out for President Trump.
	It's not really what he's doing, but he's trying to communicate something.
	And it was like a head shaker.
	And I just wanted to share this little bit with you because it's like, wow, this guy's got a lot going on.
	Everybody else, when they make a statement like that, they end up apologizing because they're so worried about what people say.
	I think because he was wearing the Make America Great Again hat, that set off such a storm on the social nets.
	Everyone was freaking out.
	How can he do this?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, you know why when I went to visit him the first time?
	Right after the election.
	Yeah, and I took the tweets down and everything.
	Because I was drugged the fuck out, bro.
	I was drugged out.
	I was on opioids.
	Two days after I got off of opioids, and I was addicted to opioids, two days I got off of opioids, I'm...
	I'm in the hospital, right?
	I'm taking two...
	Hey, everyone listen to this, please.
	Two days before I was in the hospital, I was on opioids.
	I was addicted to opioids.
	I had plastic surgery because I was trying to look good for y'all.
	I got liposuction.
	Because I didn't want y'all to call me fat like y'all called Rob at the wedding and made him fly home before me and Kim got married.
	Now, before you think he's still on opioids, he's going to say he's not.
	I didn't want y'all to call me fat, so I got liposuction, right?
	And they gave me opioids, right?
	And I started taking two of them and then driving to work on the opioids, right?
	Then my boy, and I'd always ask my boy, you know, to hand me if it's, you know, we on tour, give me some weed, blah, blah, blah.
	I need a guy like this.
	Hey, give me some weed.
	I need a guy just around me all the time.
	Give me some weed.
	Hey, give me some weed.
	Give me some opioids.
	Give me some stuff.
	Kanye's got the life.
	He's got a little lipo, got some opioids.
	Hey, where's my weed?
	My boy, and I'd always ask my boy...
	You know, to hand me if it's, you know, we're on tour, give me some weed, blah, blah, blah.
	So he had to go give me the opioids.
	And there was talks amongst my camp, like, yeah, he's popping pills, right?
	So when he handed this to me, he said, you know this is used to kill genius, right?
	So I didn't take it.
	Two days later, I'm in the hospital.
	I was taking two pills a day at that time.
	When I left the hospital, how many pills you think I was given?
	Seven!
	I went from taking two pills to taking seven.
	Now, what I think he's trying to say here, and I find this very interesting, I think he's trying to say that he was doped up and that that killed, because it kills genius, I agree, And that once he was off of them, that's when everything became clear.
	So I think what he's trying to communicate is, you've got to get off the opioids, as he says, and I agree, that's what you should call them, the opioids.
	You've got to get off the opioids so you can think clearly again and not be engrossed by whatever you're being mind-controlled into.
	I believe that's what he's saying.
	So the reason why I denounced, why I dropped those tweets and everything, because I was drugged the fuck out, bro.
	Bro.
	And I'm not drugged out.
	These pills that they want me to take three of a day, I take one a week maybe, two a week.
	Y'all have me.
	Just do a little crack, you know, once a week maybe, twice.
	Come on, hey, where's my weed?
	Scared of myself, of my vision.
	So I took some pills so I wouldn't go to hospital and prove everyone right.
	We are drugged out.
	We are following other people's opinions.
	We are controlled by the media.
	And today it all changes.
	You got Tupac and Lenin in that hallway.
	Today it all changes.
	We need to think how to think free.
	We need to be free thinkers.
	And the thing is, you know the set on TMZ, right?
	You got the set and then behind it is all those people who are working.
	Yeah, it's one of those open office sets.
	So he has his back to the camera and he's yelling at all the people there.
	Who, of course, all of them are holding up their phones recording him.
	It's a very bizarre scene.
	Then we need to learn how to feel free.
	People say feel free, but we don't even know how to feel free or think free.
	Say what you feel.
	Positive or negative.
	Einstein says the definite insanity is doing the same thing expecting a different result.
	So we keep on saying I hate you, I hate you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
	How are we gonna get a different result out of hate?
	Why don't we just try love?
	Why don't we just try love?
	Why can't it be okay for an influential rapper in the black community to go up to the president and talk to him about how we can make a change one by one by one?
	We have the resources for A peaceful world.
	There you go.
	Kanye.
	He's got the right idea.
	Yeah, I've always admired that guy.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he's on to something, but he's winding up with the same result we're winding up with.
	He's not making any difference.
	I think he should have thrown in something at the end like, and Taylor Swift still shouldn't have won that award.
	Yeah.
	I think Cecile Richards is making a run.
	She's out promoting a book.
	She is the CEO of Planned Parenthood, and she's on every show now.
	Have you seen her?
	Any interviews?
	And I still really like her.
	I know she's been on everywhere, but it's none of the beats I have.
	Yeah, she's on every cable news show, and I have a compilage.
	I have a compilage.
	They all ask the same question, and that's kind of how you do it.
	You write a book, and then you go out, and you promote the book, and then you start...
	Testing the waters and trial balloons.
	And of course, everyone's going to ask you and you're going to deny.
	And if you have a good book promoter, they actually write the questions.
	Yeah, they set it up.
	So you don't have to worry.
	So you're good to go.
	And she comes from a political family.
	Ann Richards, her mom, was she governor of Texas, I think?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Yeah.
	A Democrat woman?
	Because, you know, we're all racial hicks down here.
	We don't want any of that.
	But here's the M5M. This book, I think, will broaden people's understanding about your activist chops.
	This makes me think you're going to run for office.
	Are you going to run for office?
	I don't have any plans to run for office, but I learned early on never to say never.
	Women running for office, does that mean Cecile Richards running for office?
	Yeah.
	Well, never say never.
	Is there elective politics in your future?
	Who knows?
	You know, never say never.
	A lot of people are wondering if you're stepping away from Planned Parenthood to get into elective politics yourself.
	Is that something that's on your mind?
	Not this fall, perhaps, but down the road?
	Well, never say never, really.
	Is there politics in your future?
	I don't know what's next.
	Do you have an interest in running for office at some point?
	Nothing that I really looked at.
	In order to stand up for something, you've got to fight and you've got to face adversity.
	You've done it for your whole career.
	And right now we're seeing a record number of women run for election.
	That's right.
	Are you going to be one of those women next?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I think she might make a run for it.
	Run for what?
	Well, she's setting up.
	Why wouldn't she run for president?
	For what?
	I mean, what state is she from?
	Is she going to run for governor?
	Is she going to run for senator?
	Is she going to run for congressman?
	Is she going to run for dog catcher?
	Is she going to run for mayor?
	Oh, please.
	Why not?
	What, you're going to say that she couldn't become president?
	Yeah, I'm going to say that.
	I'll say it right here.
	Why?
	She is divisive in such a way that nobody who is religious or has any...
	No, no.
	Stop.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	That's about whether she'll win.
	I'm saying I think she may run.
	You're saying no way she's going to run.
	Or is that what you're saying?
	Oh, I see what you tricked me.
	No, I'm not tricking you.
	I said I think she's going to run.
	If she's going to be one of the 17 people that ran for president against Trump, yeah, it's possible that she'd show up up there and then get annihilated.
	They love her.
	Who's they?
	The Democrats.
	The M5M. You're very combative with me today.
	I don't understand why.
	Because I'm sitting in the wrong space.
	I've got my back to the workstation I should be working on.
	Okay.
	Well, let's think about this.
	It might be a good foil to keep Hillary from running again.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because you want to have a woman.
	We've got to have a woman.
	We've got to have a woman.
	A woman?
	So she's a woman, as far as we know.
	And Hillary's still got the machine.
	Hillary would have to be behind it.
	Somehow Hillary would have to be the power behind it.
	Okay, I like that.
	I like that idea.
	Why wouldn't she?
	Well, because she wants to be president.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's true.
	She still wants to be president.
	She's still going to run again.
	And the Democrats don't know what to do about it.
	They're beside themselves.
	She's been very quiet of late.
	I think they put the word out that stopped booking her.
	Well, that's possible.
	Yeah, you can get blackballed.
	I think she's being real quiet because I think there are some real investigations now going on into the Clinton Foundation.
	Like, someone from actual law enforcement, I believe, is sniffing around, finally.
	Could be.
	And Charles Hotel keeps just banging away at it, so.
	And they have, like, some...
	I'm surprised that guy's still alive.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's moved.
	I think he's in Colorado now.
	He's moving around.
	How's that going to help?
	He's just got to move around.
	Safe house to safe house.
	Come on.
	You know, he doesn't want to wake up one day with two to the head, gun in the left hand.
	Got a note from Sir Scott McKenzie from NoAgendaNovels.com.
	I think this is now his fourth.
	ITM Adam and John just want to let you know I've published another No Agenda Kindle giblet called Operation Free Tard.
	Here's the blurb.
	Gary Starkey is a condemned man, and along with thousands of U.S. citizens just like him, he never saw his conviction coming.
	Little did they know, the government had passed a new copyright piracy law and was waiting until the time was right to begin the convictions on an unprecedented scale.
	The fresh twist on law enforcement also brings a fresh twist on incarceration, and on his first day in a new state-of-the-art facility, he quickly realizes this will be a prison term like no other.
	In short, Scott says, it's a cautionary tale of what could happen in a war between the government and people who use Cody boxes.
	That's the, you have that, don't you?
	Kodi, K-O-D-I, where you install the software on your Roku and then you can get all TV and pay channels for free?
	No.
	But you know of it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So that will be...
	Go to NoAgendaNovels.com.
	Whenever you read one of these books from Sir Scott, it's filled with No Agenda stuff.
	It's really fun to read.
	I haven't read this one.
	He sent me a copy, so I'm going to check it out tonight.
	But it's always short.
	It's fun.
	The plot is always good.
	The characters are great.
	He's a very good writer, and we appreciate him doing that.
	The brand new Scott McKenzie No Agenda novel.
	Operation Freetard.
	Freetard.
	Good.
	He coined something there.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, let's see what else we got here on the list.
	I found, I've got a couple of things here that are kind of interesting.
	I want to play this.
	This is a short clip.
	You know, this Bornstein guy, you know, this weird looking doctor that Trump used to use in New York.
	The guy's all, excuse me, the guy's all, you know, he's just like, I don't know if you've seen this guy.
	But there's this, he's the guy whose office was supposedly raided and they grabbed the Trump medical records.
	He's the guy that said Trump dictated to him to say the most healthiest president ever in U.S. presidential history.
	Yeah, stuff like that.
	That's what he says.
	And the question of whether the office is actually raided or not is questionable listening to the mainstream reports.
	But there's a thing people don't seem to realize.
	I just want to play this very short clip, Bornstein and medical records.
	Quotes Bornstein recalling that he told Mr. Trump's longtime personal assistant that he should be the White House physician.
	But after it was published, he says he received a curt phone call.
	She said, so you want it to be the White House doctor?
	Forget it.
	You're out.
	Tonight, the Trump Organization lawyer declined to comment, and NBC News could not reach the president's former bodyguard, but we have confirmed they took the original medical records, leaving Dr.
	Bornstein without any copies.
	Lester?
	Peter Alexander at the White House tonight.
	Thank you.
	I couldn't hear it exactly.
	What did he say?
	He said that he asked to be the White House doctor.
	Yeah.
	And then his assistant called him back in a curt phone call and says, you know what?
	You want to be the White House doctor?
	You're out.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	I doubt any of this took place, but I don't think the public in general in the United States realizes that medical records, your medical records.
	They belong to you.
	They're your property.
	Yes.
	They belong to you.
	They don't belong to the doctor.
	They don't belong to the insurance company.
	They belong to you.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And that is de-emphasized in the media.
	Well, of course, because you always want to share everything in the new world order.
	We share all things and we're all equal and we're open.
	We have nothing to hide.
	Do you have something to hide?
	We also have, we had a little incident in the Bay Area, besides the homeless.
	There was a Second Amendment walkout on about, I don't know, maybe five, six schools in the Bay Area.
	It's like a 15-minute walkout.
	Kids, you know, with American flags and don't tread on me, and they gave a few speeches and went back to class.
	But I want to play the clip of the report of this, because there's a couple of little Things that we always have to keep an eye out for when we're listening to news reports.
	Park High in Pleasant Hill, a downtown college prep in San Jose, and California High School in San Ramon.
	ABC 7 News reporter Amy Hollifield was in San Ramon for this morning's walkout.
	About 75 students walked out of California High School in San Ramon this morning.
	Not an unusual sight, especially in the Bay Area, but some parents were still shocked when they heard why they were walking out.
	Wait, what?
	Yes.
	No, I didn't know this.
	I'm kind of shocked.
	I don't know what to say.
	These students are walking out in support of the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms.
	This comes just over a month after students across the country staged walkouts to take a stance against gun violence.
	The kids that have been walking out and represented in the media from the Parkland survivors, they don't necessarily represent our whole demographic.
	Walk-outs like this one, called Stand for the Second, are happening in at least 40 states today.
	The organizer in San Ramon saw the event on social media a week ago and decided to host one here.
	Administrators just heard about it this morning and quickly got the word out to teachers and police.
	Now, the little gotcha in here that you really have to pay, you have to be careful not doing this everywhere, is equating the Second Amendment with gun violence.
	Ooh, good catch.
	Yes.
	And the way she puts it, she says they're walking out in support of the Second Amendment while everyone else is against gun violence.
	Wow.
	So, yeah, so the Second Amendment equals gun violence.
	The way it's presented is the Second Amendment equals gun violence.
	I want to hear that again.
	Before you play it again, I want to also mention that the woman they were interviewing, somebody they told there was a walkout, it's for the Second Amendment, and this housewife in the car was going, oh my God, I can't, oh, that's unbelievable that they would do that, that they would support, and she's aghast.
	We don't really hear the question that she's asked, so we don't really know how it was.
	Anyway, play it again.
	...until downtown college prep in San Jose and California High School in San Ramon.
	ABC7 News reporter Amy Hollifield was in San Ramon for this morning's walkout.
	About 75 students walked out of California High School in San Ramon this morning.
	Not an unusual sight, especially in the Bay Area, but some parents were still shocked when they heard why they were walking out.
	Wait, what?
	Yes.
	No, I didn't know this.
	I'm kind of shocked.
	I don't know what to say.
	These students are walking out in support of the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms.
	This comes just over a month after students across the country staged walkouts to take a stance against gun violence.
	Oh, wow.
	Great catch, John.
	Holy crap.
	That's some neuro-linguistic programming for you right there.
	Well, again, this is the problem that you have.
	It's the editors that are the problem here.
	They are letting this stuff get by.
	Amy Holyfield should have been called to the carpet.
	They may be changing it to this language.
	You don't know.
	It's a possibility, but I don't...
	You make me depressed if that would be true, because an editor is not supposed to do that.
	that they're supposed to keep you from doing exactly what she did, which is making false equivalencies in the report in such a way that it skews the report.
	It's a very poorly done, poorly executed report.
	And then they had with that woman going, oh, my God, you're kidding.
	And she goes, yes, that's what they're doing.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Yes.
	The whole thing is I found to be the worst piece.
	It's another piece of local – another piece of mainstream media crap right before your very eyes.
	Unbelievable.
	You know, just while we're on these kids protesting, a buddy of mine, and I picked this up off of the face bag, I think maybe two weeks, a week and a half ago.
	He owns a very successful production company in New York, and mainly in New York, they produce corporate events, but big ones.
	And he's very successful with this.
	I'll be a little circumspect about what the event was, But he said, you know, this evening, because of course he'll do his little corporate update on the face bag with pictures of him with all the people that he produced this event for.
	Tonight we produced this event, the event that was honoring some people, and featured performances by Jennifer Lopez and Shawn Mendes, as well as appearances by Trevor Noah, Emily Blunt, John Krasinski, Alex Rodriguez, Kesha, RuPaul, Martha Stewart, Gail King, Ariana Huffington, Maxine Waters, Senator Rand Paul, Preet Bahara, and the Parkland students.
	Can you just...
	Do they have an agent now?
	I'll bet you a buck they do.
	You can just book the Parkland students and you fly them up.
	I'll bet you you can.
	They need a jet to fly up.
	They can't stay overnight because they've got to go back to school.
	Are they still in school or not?
	I'm sure they've got an agent that makes demands.
	Oh, and Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban were there as well.
	So everyone got booked.
	Everyone made out like crazy on this.
	And I know my guy.
	You know, he paid them whatever they want.
	I'm sure he said, I'll send a jet for you, too.
	But that's child abuse.
	Depends on what they pay.
	Well, this is true.
	That kind of surprised me.
	Here's a trend going on that people should be aware of.
	This is the paint...
	It says...
	It starts with an O, so you've got to go to O. Paintball Wars.
	Did you hear about this?
	Paintball guns are meant to be harmless, but police in cities around the country say a surge of paintball fights are terrorizing their residents.
	In Greensboro, North Carolina...
	To date, we've seen about 44 incidents of paintball activity in the city just in the month of April.
	In Milwaukee, 65 reports of people being hit with paintballs in the last week.
	It's unsuspecting citizens who don't know what's going on.
	Rapper 21 Savage is credited with starting the trend, posting videos of paintball guns and calling for paintballs up, guns down.
	Some describe it as an anti-violence campaign.
	Better than somebody out here fighting and shooting.
	Yeah, why not?
	But in at least two incidents, according to officials, the paintball battles triggered deadly shootings.
	In Greensboro, 19-year-old Zacharias Bradley was killed with real bullets during what police say started as a paintball fight.
	And outside Atlanta, police say 15-year-old Christopher Collins fired an actual gun in retaliation during a paintball attack.
	Killing three-year-old Taraji Diggs in his mother's car.
	When I turned the corner, my baby, he just kept crying.
	The toddler's mother says 21 Savage, a personal friend of the family, paid for the funeral, and she doesn't blame him for the violence.
	He actually was telling them to put down the real guns and put up the paintball guns.
	A publicist for 21 Savage did not return a request for comment.
	Now police in multiple cities warn that what may have started with good intentions has backfired.
	Stephanie Goss, NBC News, New York.
	Well, I'm encouraged that the hip-hop and youth of America, including Kanye, is trying to do something.
	It's a little misguided.
	I'd say.
	Yeah, totally.
	Yeah, but it sounds like he had a sincere idea how dumb it is.
	Yeah, paintball guns.
	These things are dangerous, too.
	I mean, when you go paintball shooting, you're wearing a mask.
	You know, thanks for that report.
	I can't wait to see that happening on the streets of Austin.
	I'm sure it's going to happen.
	That's going to be great in Austin.
	Let me guess, was it a bunch of white dudes with a paintball?
	No, black kids.
	Oh, really?
	And they weren't getting arrested?
	Well, who knows?
	I'm sure they were.
	By the way, this month is Mental Health Awareness Month, I believe.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	So they had this special on one of the networks that was like, They had these kids on and they're going on and there was a subtle message.
	It was one of the news shows.
	And of course the news shows, unlike Colbert or some of these late night shows, And I do have the, from last year, you'd have to go dig it up, but I have all the, or at least a segment of the ads that Colbert has on his show.
	There's no drug companies except for Botox advertising, but they advertise on the news shows.
	And so they're going back and forth talking about how this mental health awareness, so they had Kirsten Bell, and she's going, yeah, I'm kind of nuts, and so I, you know, it's good to talk about this.
	They had one person after another.
	Then they brought on Sarah Silverman, who came on and made the following comments.
	This is the Mental Health Month.
	Take medication.
	Because I'm like, I can actually do this.
	If you have diabetes, you take medication.
	If you have some mental health issues, you also take medication.
	And it's no big deal.
	That really resonated with me because I think sometimes people are looked down upon for taking medication.
	Oh, man.
	She is...
	Talk about misguided.
	Holy crap.
	She needs to read Lost Connections.
	That would set her straight.
	This is the fallacy of this stuff.
	Well, you're sick.
	You have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
	This is a lie.
	This is a lie.
	You got something wrong, but you got to find the cause.
	And so you take pills.
	It's just like, you know, you got a cast because you broke your arm.
	It's like, ugh.
	And on this report, they promoted the idea that one in five kids is mentally, needs mental health help in the form of medication.
	Oh my goodness.
	Do not let the doctor put your kid on any pills.
	Holy crap.
	And was this a government sanctioned program?
	Where was this?
	It was on one of the news shows.
	It was just a special.
	They had all these different actors bitching about their lives and how terrible things are.
	Basically just promoting...
	Pills.
	Promoting pills.
	Holy crap.
	Oh, man.
	It was quite depressing.
	Yes, I need some pills now.
	I'm so depressed.
	Looking at the Bitcoin price and other associated cryptos, looks like right now we're at $9,600.
	Right in line with my theory of the pending doom for Iran, and maybe Bibi Netanyahu had something to do with it.
	Did you see this thing he did?
	Yeah, I did.
	This little chat?
	I got a little clip of what some are calling the equivalency of a TED Talk.
	I just revealed something the world has never seen before.
	A few weeks ago, Israel obtained half a ton of Iran's secret nuclear weapons files.
	You want to see what that looks like?
	And then he unveils this bookcase with all these binders, which somehow is going to weigh half a ton, which seems like a thousand pounds.
	And then he has two large framed...
	Just rows of CD-ROMs.
	It kind of looked like a really bad award given to a rapper for his 10 million albums sold.
	It was like one of those deals.
	Just all these CD-ROMs in there.
	And that is showing all the research they had.
	It was extremely unconvincing.
	Look at this!
	This is an exact copy of the material we got from Iran's secret atomic archives.
	That's over 100,000 original Iranian files and documents of blueprints for nuclear bombs, timelines for uranium enrichment, simulation of nuclear explosions, much more.
	This atomic archive proves one thing.
	Iran lied through its teeth.
	Iran is still lying.
	A few days ago, Iran's foreign minister said this, we never wanted to produce a nuclear bomb.
	Well, Iran's secret atomic archive proves the exact opposite.
	Iran hid a comprehensive plan to build an arsenal of nuclear weapons.
	The nuclear deal with Iran was based on lies, and Iran's terrorist regime simply cannot be trusted.
	In a few days from now, President Trump will decide the United States' position regarding the nuclear deal.
	I'm sure he'll do the right thing.
	The right thing for America.
	The right thing for Israel.
	The right thing for the peace of the world.
	I mean, this whole thing was so odd with, you know, they don't have thumb drives or hard disks, and he has to show all these binders.
	Yet they've got nuclear bombs!
	They're evil scientists!
	They're making nukes!
	And they're printing all their plans onto paper and putting them in binders.
	I don't know.
	But I do think we're going to see, just from my theory, it's just a theory, I think by, what is today, the third, so in one week, I think Bitcoin will be over $10,000 in preparation for the May 15th date.
	And it seems like, look, we're not going to start bombing Iran.
	I don't think that at all.
	But...
	Something is going to get kicked off.
	They're planning on doing something.
	All the sentiment is now against the evil Iranian regime and we need to have some kind of revolution.
	And it's got to be coming.
	And it starts with more sanctions or something that's going to mess up Iran.
	And probably a year of that.
	And then, well, I mean, it's got to happen.
	Don't you think they're going to do the Korea deal first?
	They can't do two things.
	No, no, no.
	It starts on the 15th by not saying, okay, this deal is no good.
	We'll pretend to renegotiate.
	The deal will kind of be in limbo.
	We won't know where it is.
	Meanwhile, we do something with North Korea.
	Sure, that's got to be done.
	But, you know, when you cut off Iran from the money supply, and, oh, Michael Zed actually found out for me how they're doing this oil trading.
	Apparently, France is giving Iran, when they buy oil or sell oil, they're giving them Euro credits.
	So it's credits that are based on the Euro, but it's not really the Euro, because they're not allowed to use dollars anymore, nor can they, because they're being shut off from all the financial networks like Swift, etc., So France, and I don't understand, how is France in this game?
	He must desperately want them to not, you know, want to keep it as kind of stable and moving ahead, steady as she goes.
	If they're allowing transactions to take place with Iran, our buddy, we had the big state dinner for him, and he's doing it for Euro credits?
	I mean, this is going to be a real problem.
	No one gets out of that alive.
	Including Macron.
	I don't know.
	It's all new to me.
	I'm baffled, though, that we're kissing, we're hugging, we're having a great time.
	But this guy, he's aiding and abetting the Iranians.
	How can he be our buddy?
	I have no idea.
	I don't know.
	Maybe the whole thing is a giant scheme to break the country.
	Well, no, I think he was probably involved when we got Gaddafi.
	So that's just more.
	I don't know how.
	Anyway.
	Don't know.
	I'm just going to go.
	This is the Iranian Bitcoin theory.
	And by the 10th, we should see Bitcoin at or above 10,000.
	And near the 15th, who knows?
	I mean, it's on.
	Sounds like it.
	There's a correlation.
	We'll see.
	I don't know how long this is going to go on.
	How long this scam is going to continue.
	When is the North Korea thing scheduled?
	Isn't that coming up?
	Isn't that very soon?
	Yeah, it's coming up soon, but I don't think there's a solid firm date because I don't have to even determine where they're going to do it.
	I think they're still in negotiations about where they're going to do it.
	Yeah, well, we don't really know anything.
	Meanwhile, Pompeo just goes over, hangs out.
	No, we don't know nothing.
	May 4th is traditionally a...
	Well, May 5th is Liberation Day in a lot of Europe.
	I think in all of Europe.
	Certainly in the Netherlands.
	In the Netherlands they have a special...
	They call it the Dead Remembrance.
	Dodenherdenking.
	On May 4th...
	That's the 5th?
	Well, the 5th is Liberation Day.
	And on the 4th they have a...
	Two minutes of silence.
	Holland, yes.
	Two minutes of silence.
	And since I was there in 1972, and it's really quite fascinating to see at 8 o'clock on the 4th, on the evening of the 4th, everyone stops what they're doing.
	Cars will stop on the highway.
	The highways are just stopped.
	All the cars are stopped, and everyone observes two minutes of silence for those who fell during the Second World War.
	And this year, there's a group that says, no, we're going to interrupt that silence everywhere we can because this whole thing is racist.
	Because you're only thinking about the white people who died in the war and not about the 4 million who died in, you know, Dutch East India, all this stuff.
	Whatever it is.
	It's some racist problem.
	So now they're going to...
	You'll see this is going to be a mess.
	Because Black Pete involved.
	It's the Black Pete people, I'm sure.
	Somehow he's involved.
	And this is a very solemn thing.
	It's like a very cultural tradition that I've witnessed throughout all my years living in and being in the Netherlands.
	And now you've got a bunch of jamokes who are going to come and disturb this for some ulterior motive.
	And tempers are running high.
	Temperatures are running high in the Netherlands.
	Yes.
	If people are out there making noise, other people are going to start beating on them.
	Well, I'm sure there's more beaters than there are BTs.
	Yes, yes.
	It's going to get very ugly.
	Well, the fifth is Sanco de Mayo, which is a day that we celebrate on the No Agenda show, despite what one of our producers says.
	On the No Agenda show?
	I didn't know.
	So they don't celebrate that in Mexico?
	It's a total...
	It's not a Mexican holiday, really.
	It's a day of, you know, kind of a loser's thing.
	Hmm.
	But Sanco de Mayo is a big celebration in Mexico, the Mexican parts of town.
	And we celebrate because in every show, even though it doesn't show up in the recording, Adam sings Sanco de Mayo during the playing of the pre...
	The Fat Lady.
	Yeah.
	I actually sing Sanco de Mayo.
	You do Sanco.
	I do Sanco.
	Yeah, he does something.
	And...
	So that makes it part of the show, and so we celebrate it.
	So that'll be on Saturday, and then the show will be on Sunday.
	It'll be the 6th.
	Is there anything going on on the 6th of May that's important?
	I don't think so.
	It's just kind of a bland day.
	No, it can't be.
	May 6th.
	Let's see what it says on the mickey.
	You look on the wiki.
	In the meantime, a little segment about dogs.
	I think that we're going to have to make this a regular.
	Andres Lorza from Colombia is accused of implanting liquid heroin in the puppy's bellies to get the drugs into the U.S. Lorza was eventually arrested in Spain back in 2013 and then re-arrested in 2015 before being extradited just yesterday.
	Several of the puppies used by Lorza were saved and one of them eventually became a narcotics dog.
	So it's an old story they bring back, but I think we're going to see a lot of dog news.
	In fact, probably increasingly more as I'm really now paying attention to people.
	Well, dogs are people too.
	We were talking about that on the last show.
	Oh, dogs are people and they need to vote.
	There you go.
	Well, we might get to that.
	But here's producer Beth.
	And I want more stories like this because I know that this is happening and it needs to be identified and we've got to do something about it or at least recognize it because we're going to die off and that's everywhere.
	Young people are just not having kids.
	They're getting dogs.
	I wanted to pass along a conversation I had with a millennial couple on Saturday right before the last show.
	We have two kids and just got a puppy.
	We were spending the night out with a couple about eight years younger than us, early 30s, with no kids, and they have a dog.
	I was talking about how great our puppy is, etc., and one of them said, Oh, isn't it great?
	It's always that way.
	They're always sweet.
	You know, it's not like having kids.
	They won't hate you someday.
	To what?
	As Beth continues, I thought that was a fascinating thing for them to say.
	I couldn't help thinking if the struggle that kids are, the rejection you inevitably feel from them puts off young couples, they know it's hard, they don't live in a bubble, they get it, but instead of choosing to feel the good and bad having kids brings, they only want the good.
	And there is a cultural thing going on with dogs, and I can't walk anywhere.
	In my building, anywhere, there's people with dogs.
	Well, let's make a couple of things clear.
	Treating them like children, putting them in strollers.
	You know, you moan and groan about me being in California and all the rest of it.
	You're in Austin, Texas.
	It's hardly any generalities you can make.
	I'm sure that people living in Nebraska...
	And Kansas and rural Illinois.
	There's no...
	This dog thing is specific to the Democrats.
	Let's find out.
	No, I don't think...
	I think...
	No.
	I think it's a younger generation.
	I think it's everywhere.
	And we'll find out from our producers that it is in rural Illinois.
	Yeah, and I'm saying no.
	It's not like you said.
	You can't walk down the street.
	There's dog crap everywhere.
	There's dogs, dogs, dogs.
	I mean, you know.
	Yeah, here too.
	There's a lot of dogs.
	All right, here we go.
	The sixth.
	Chief Crazy Horse of the Ogallala Lakota Surrenders to the United States Troops?
	Huh?
	The Chinese Exclusion Act?
	Huh?
	1882, May 6th.
	Eiffel Tower is officially opened on 1886.
	I'm sorry, in 1889, on the 6th.
	Babe Ruth, in 1915, hits his first home run on May 6th.
	I guarantee you people are more interested.
	The Hindenburg disaster.
	Oh, jeez.
	I don't like any of it.
	I don't like any of it.
	I don't like doing donation themes with the episode number because it relates to some year.
	I don't like it.
	It doesn't work.
	I don't think people are interested.
	It does work.
	Always works.
	It doesn't always work.
	Okay, here's one that would kind of apply to the show.
	Why don't you want to talk about dogs?
	Because you hate dogs.
	Fine.
	Wait, tell me this doesn't relate.
	1996, the body of former CIA director William Colby is found washed up on a riverbank in southern Maryland eight days after he disappeared.
	How about we do a great show, it's an outstanding product, support us for that reason.
	Not because some douchebag did something in 1824.
	No.
	More interesting is the...
	Come on.
	It doesn't matter.
	You're not interested in it.
	It's fine.
	No, I go on with the dogs.
	I'm done.
	I mean, there's a lot of dogs.
	I'm done.
	But we go from that...
	It's a plague.
	It's a plague of dogs.
	In Austin...
	What is happening is young people are substituting having children by acquiring dogs.
	And that is a problem that is not being discussed.
	You'd rather talk about weird dates in history.
	I'm challenging.
	You challenge the audience.
	I'll challenge the audience with a backup.
	Tell us that this is going on any place other than these liberal strongholds where they hate kids anyway.
	Thank you.
	That's what we'll wait for.
	You will see.
	And I think it's a global problem.
	It's not just...
	I travel, man.
	I'm around.
	I've been around.
	I go places.
	I'm seeing it.
	The dogs in the restaurant, the dogs in the store, the dogs in the supermarket, the dogs in the theater.
	Uh-uh.
	Dogs in the theater?
	Yeah!
	You can't have dogs in a theater.
	Okay.
	You can just wait for the emails.
	They will come streaming in.
	I want to hear about dogs in a theater.
	Avengers.
	They've already designed the new Avengers.
	You know it's going to be Avengers Affinity Wars.
	It's going to be about multi-level marketing.
	No, it's not.
	Yeah.
	No.
	The Avengers about multi-level marketing?
	Yeah, the Affinity Wars.
	Either it's a joke that I don't understand, or it's a dumb idea.
	Yeah, well, maybe it's a dumb idea.
	The audience will get it.
	All right, what else we got?
	I don't know.
	You got any more insults for me?
	I'm not insulting you.
	Where's it insulting you?
	Because you made this claim that dogs are taking over the place.
	And you live in Austin.
	I'm insulting the fact that you live in Austin.
	You're always insulting the fact that I live in California.
	You keep telling me to get out.
	You keep telling me to sell.
	I didn't get the joke.
	And then you said, well, someone else will get it.
	Like you're an idiot.
	That's what you did.
	That was your microaggression.
	It was.
	That's all I was responding to.
	I was done with the dogs.
	Do you have anything else that you're all peeved about?
	No, I'm not peeved about anything.
	What you need is you need to get back behind your knuck.
	Get that thing fixed so you can sit somewhere where you're comfortable.
	Now when it rebooted, it gave me that you can go into...
	Here's the thing.
	So now it won't boot because it's something Windows did.
	That's the obvious thing that happened.
	So now it says, well, you know, it's not going to boot.
	You can go into your BIOS settings.
	Now I'm going to ask you, what can I do in my BIOS settings that's going to change anything?
	Oh, you can boot from the USB drive that has Linux on it.
	Yeah, I may have to do that.
	That's the obvious answer.
	Then I'll be running Linux, which is going to be no good because Linux doesn't have a version of Skype that works for crap.
	Hello, Linux people.
	Well, you should take some time today and fix the Nook.
	You can't do it?
	Well, it's just an idea.
	I'm going to try to fix the Nook.
	Yeah.
	It gives you problems with the spreadsheet.
	It's all kinds.
	It's problematic.
	You don't have your stuff over there.
	All kinds of things that just...
	You're not comfortable and I want to make sure you're comfortable.
	Can I send someone over?
	What are they going to do?
	Fix it for you.
	People know that what happened is not necessarily fixable.
	Okay.
	I have to like take and strip the thing down and put a new operating system on it.
	Oh.
	Make sure that it doesn't change any of the...
	Okay.
	I just get a disc and I'll put it into offerings.
	The problem is I've got to go through all this trouble.
	Are you still there?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no, you cut out.
	Okay.
	Oh, sorry.
	Coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, the only place where people substitute dogs for children.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we should send everybody to Austin.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Until Sunday, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And as always, adios, mofos!
	I need a cab.
	Hey, cab!
	I have ideas.
	Kanye West.
	He's the guy.
	You're in the future now, and President Kanye says, I have ideas.
	But you've seen him do it.
	He does what he sees.
	Profile.
	It was a Bush Obama special.
	He jerks his body over and he doesn't just turn his head.
	He moves his whole body over about 45 degrees.
	I didn't do the deal.
	And it turns his head.
	And this is during that period where it was freaky and they're all paranoid.
	And I'll check the numbers because they'll say, oh, he misrepresented, but these numbers are close enough.
	And stares at something at a direct angle.
	Need a whole new thinking here.
	At someone or something with a very stern look.
	He saw this great sight.
	And he usually does it to the left.
	And I looked, and I looked.
	If this guy isn't a reincarnation of Mussolini, I do not know who is.
	And I could see the mood was getting dark.
	We need a whole new thinking here.
	I have ideas.
	We need a whole new thinking.
	I have ideas.
	We need a whole new thinking. - Donald Trump.
	I have ideas.
	I'm in an old, I'm in an Airbnb.
	Actually, it's not an Airbnb.
	It's a BNB. A proper bed and breakfast with a really beautiful breakfast.
	It's done by the owner.
	And so it's an old house.
	And it has one of those old Dutch toilets that I think I've mentioned before on the show.
	Way up in the air?
	It has the reservoir way up in the air so it uses real gravity, big ass gravity.
	But it needs that because it's one of those typical old Dutch toilets that has the shelf.
	And for people who don't know, the main Dutch toilet maker, back in the day, started making them mainly for hospitals.
	And there's a shelf, so when you poop, then your poop stays on the shelf so it can be examined.
	And no one ever thought, that's kind of disgusting for the home.
	And they just, well, just use the hospital toilets.
	And so, you know, it's kind of weird when you sit there and go, oh, shit, man, my poop is on the shelf.
	And that's why the extra gravity...
	Poop is on the shelf.
	In some places it hits the fan, in the Netherlands it's on the shelf.
	There's a poop upon the shelf.
	There's a poop upon the shelf.
	We keep it for your health.
	For the Queen and Commonwealth.
	The Dutch are in a rush to see that poopy plush.
	Poop is on the shelf.
	Yeah!
	The following jingle contains content about anal leakage.
	However, it also provides advice to finding shoes that match.
	Listener discretion is advised.
	But I have heard of, here's another one.
	And you can look this one up.
	There are these public poopers, and there tend to be mostly women.
	Public poopers?
	Oh, God.
	Hey, where did we go?
	The days when the stains came.
	Down in the hollow, playing a new game.
	Skipping and a-dumping, laughing and a-running.
	Leave this strange aroma where the hearts are pumping.
	And you, my brown-stained girl.
	Here we go.
	I'm in Las Vegas with a group of people from PC Magazine and some PR woman comes up and sits there and starts to talk.
	And then she leaves and rushes off.
	And one of the guys, I don't know how he knows about this, but he said that she knew that she...
	This is disgusting.
	And I apologize to the listeners of this show for bringing this stuff up.
	But apparently they like to go and they just poop in their pants in a crowd.
	In their pants?
	Yes.
	And then they go off somewhere.
	It's just some sort of weird perversion.
	If you go on the internet, start looking it up.
	Sha-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-dee-da.
	Holy, Macro is a huge, it's like massive number of participants.
	Do they have a Mastodon server?
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Mopo.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash.

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