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No!
We got E-World!
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Thursday, March 15, 2018.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 10.
16.
This is No Agenda.
Beware the Ides of March!
And broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone, Star State, in the Cludio, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm keeping my comments to a minimum, I'm John C. Devorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
See, here I am keeping my opening comments to a minimum to give you equal opportunity and time, and well done.
Just to prove we don't rehearse the show.
At all.
Very hard explaining that to people who've heard the show for the first time in Holland.
Like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
So, huh?
That's pretty much, huh?
How does that work?
Yes, to reiterate, the hosts of this show never speak with each other except on the show.
And we don't know what we're going to talk about.
Nope.
Until we get to the show.
And I don't know what John's clips are.
I don't even look at the titles.
Why would I? You just confuse yourself.
Exactly.
Happy World Contact Day.
I think, yes, you know, we missed the boat on yesterday.
Uh, Pi Day?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we didn't have a show, so how could we even hop on that boat?
And as my wife pointed out, the real irony of Pi Day was Stephen Hawking died the day before.
Or whoever was playing the role of Stephen Hawking.
Well, yes, based on your thesis, yes.
Not just my thesis.
Someone may or may not have died the day before.
Yeah.
In fact, that may have been the signal.
Oh.
What do you mean?
Day before Pi Day.
Oh.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Code.
Yeah.
Well, I know I met a Stephen Hawkins.
I don't know if it was the Stephen Hawkins.
I told you that story, right?
I was in Los Angeles at the Mondrian Hotel, which is a real douchebag, swanky, hip-ass hotel with the Sky Bar pool.
Yeah, everyone knows the Mondrian.
Not everybody knows it.
And I was having dinner there, and there was Stephen Hawkins with a bunch of hot nurses feeding him.
And you went over there?
Yeah.
And said, hi, I'm Adam Curry.
Surely you've heard of me.
No, I did not.
But World Contact Day is interesting.
I didn't know about this.
World Contact Day is a day...
I'm sure we're going to find out now.
I've never heard of it either until this very minute.
It's been going on for a while.
This was first declared March 1953 by the International Flying Saucer Bureau, the IFSB. Oh!
Oh, it's a flying saucer day.
Yes.
It's a day on which all IFSB members attempt to send a telepathic message into space.
So, we can all participate.
You can do your little part by trying to telepathically send messages of good cheer to our extraterrestrial friends.
How do we know they're friendly?
We don't, but we're going to start off by being friendly.
Yes, that's always been our first mistake in the movies.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, there's actually some...
They try to be friendly, and then the army comes in and starts shooting at everyone.
Attack from Mars.
There's some space news, coincidentally, today.
This was the president speaking in front of some troops.
In space, the United States is going to do Colonel Glenn proud.
We are finally going to lead again...
You see what's happening?
You see the rockets going up left and right?
You haven't seen that for a long time?
Yeah, I only see Elon's rockets going up left and right.
Now we're taking credit for this?
I guess?
Hmm.
Very soon we're going to Mars.
We're going to Mars, Jeremy.
We're going to Mars.
Very soon.
No, Elon's going to Mars.
No, we.
We.
I just heard the President say it.
We are going to Mars.
He's got a mouse in his pocket?
I've been going to Mars if my opponent won.
I can tell you.
You wouldn't even be thinking about it.
You wouldn't be thinking about it.
Non sequitur of the day.
My new national strategy for space recognizes that space is a warfighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea.
I think we actually have an international treaty where we all agreed that space was not to be weaponized.
Am I mistaken on this?
How can he see that as a war battlefield?
Well, he's not seeing it as a...
No, it's a treaty between the Earth countries that are not going to use spaces.
Oh, okay.
He's saying in case of some other extraterrestrials...
The aliens.
The aliens.
We can do whatever we want.
There's no treaty with them that I know of.
Oh, okay.
We may even have a Space Force develop another one.
Space Force.
We have the Air Force.
We'll have the Space Force.
We have the Army, the Navy.
Space Force.
You know, I was saying it the other day because we're doing a tremendous amount of work in space.
I said, maybe we need a new force.
We'll call it the Space Force.
And I was not really serious.
And then I said, what a great idea.
Maybe we'll have to do that.
Even when I'm not serious, I've got genius ideas.
We have a Space Force.
We have the off-world Space Force.
We know this.
This is in all the National Defense Authorization Act documents.
That's true.
That's right.
We've read from those paragraphs.
Yeah, there's always a Space Force.
And then this news which came in...
Interesting study from NASA. NASA says that astronaut Scott Kelly's DNA was altered in space.
The study compared Kelly's DNA to the DNA of his twin brother, Mark, who is also an astronaut.
Researchers looked at each of their DNA before and after Scott's year-long trip to the International Space Station.
They said that 7% of his genes have remained altered.
Well, this brings us to the science fiction story of the...
I can't remember who the writer...
I thought it was Bradbury, but it might not be.
A bunch of humans go to Mars and they put a colony up.
Yeah.
And after a period of, I don't know, X number of years, they actually slowly turn into Martians.
Oh, nice.
Well, I find, you know, first of all, you don't need to go to space to have your DNA changed.
Just implement 5G. We'll all be fine.
Get that going.
Our DNA will be ripped to shreds.
Yes.
But...
But I do remind people from time to time, you know, all this talk of space travel.
And if you go to NASA's website today and you look at, you know, all the young millennials who are now running the joint and they talk about, ah, you know, one day we'll be able to get through the Van Allen belts and we'll get to be able to explore Mars.
I'm like, wait a minute.
We sent guys through that thing 50 years ago and back again.
And now just being in space changes your DNA. You've got to think...
Did we really go to the moon?
And why did NASA lose the tapes?
Oh, gee.
Okay, yeah, for another time.
I got you.
Yeah, a special.
Yes.
So I flew back from Amsterdam yesterday.
Yes, we need to know more.
The plane was almost empty.
Oh, that's nice.
I love it when you get on a plane that's almost empty.
When we flew over to England for Thanksgiving, the plane was almost empty.
For the first time in maybe 10 years, I could actually lay out across a whole row in the middle.
Yeah, I could do the same.
It's too bad that flight is stopping.
It's only for South by Southwest.
Oh.
Yeah, I thought it was permanent, but no, it's just for this...
I gave you an excuse to leave.
Two things, South by Southwest and the bombings.
Well, sadly, South by Southwest is still ongoing.
And I don't understand why they don't just call it the South by Southwest bomber.
I have a clip.
I'm sure you have one, too.
That's a great...
You know, funny, I didn't think of that, but that's what they should have called him.
Because he showed up with South by Southwest and started bombing.
He'll probably disappear when they leave.
Instead of that, they're calling it something else.
Should we do your clip or my clip?
I want to hear the ABC clip.
Let me hear it.
New developments here in the urgent search for a possible serial bomber in Austin, Texas.
As we reported last night, three package bombs exploding, two people killed.
Those packages left on doorsteps.
And what we learned late today, ABC's Alex Perez in Austin.
Investigators in Austin tonight desperately chasing a suspected serial bomber.
We are going to follow up on every lead.
Anxiety gripping the city after three packages exploded, killing two.
Everybody's on guard.
Okay, just for a second.
Anxiety is not gripping the city.
Tina's been here.
She works here.
She is around people.
You know, it's not nice, but is anxiety gripping the city in fear?
No.
No.
That's what they said.
Boots on the ground here.
Anxiety gripping the city after three packages exploded, killing two.
Everybody's on guard.
Everybody's real suspicious if there's any packages.
Emergency officials have flooded with more than 265 calls of suspicious packages.
Package near the ground or on the ground near the mailboxes.
So just please advise you not to mess with it.
This is the home where the first bombing occurred back on March 2nd.
You can see the impact, the power ripping right through this wall, blowing out the door.
Authorities tell ABC News the explosive devices were constructed with nuts, bolts, and nails generating shrapnel and were triggered to explode when picked up.
The fact that they have been able to not only build these bombs, but then travel with them and deploy them to the target locations without them exploding shows that they do have a certain level of sophistication.
And tonight, the youngest victim identified as 17-year-old Draylen Mason, a dedicated student with a passion for music.
The reward for any information leading to an arrest in this case now up to $65,000.
David?
That's surprising.
I expected to hear something in your report, which I read everywhere, but it was not in this ABC report, and it comes from the official press conference from the APD. What we understand at this point...
Is that early this morning, one of the residents went out front steps that exploded.
That case was being investigated as a suspicious death.
It is now being reclassified and is now a homicide investigation as well.
As I've said, we do see similarities and believe that these cases are linked at this time.
However, we don't know what the motive behind these may be.
We do know that both of the homes that were the recipients of these packages belong to African Americans, so we cannot rule out that hate crime is at the core of this, but we're not saying that that's the cause as well.
Yeah, but that got picked up everywhere that I read.
Well, first of all, my clip didn't have any of that because my clip was on to the third bombing and your clip was only at the second bombing.
This has already been previously covered.
Correct.
But the third one was exactly the same message from the police.
Well, apparently ABC doesn't want to promote that message.
I'm surprised.
I'm very surprised.
I thought that that's what they would go with.
Yeah, I don't know what this is.
This is odd.
I think it's some lunatic from South by Southwest.
You think so?
Yeah.
Start looking into these guys.
Well, again, that's what I would have called it.
I don't understand why they didn't just call it the South by Southwest bomber.
That'd be great.
Because they probably had a bunch of people sending them cease and desist orders.
Don't do that.
Can't call it that.
Don't do that.
Yeah.
Anyway, so back on the plane towards the South by Southwest bombing sitch.
Well, there's a lot of anxiety.
Yeah, a lot of anxiety.
First, I wanted to mention something I learned.
I didn't realize this, and it happened maybe two years ago.
In the Netherlands, part of the EU harmonization, as you know, all the United States of Europe member states have to kind of be the same.
So we already know that, you know, the coffee shops where you buy your weed, they're no longer legally transferable to be weed coffee shops.
So once the owner sells or dies or whatever, goes out of business, you can no longer use that to sell weed legally.
That's how they're trying to, you know, tamp that down a bit.
But here's something that was very surprising, and it's very, it's strictly enforced.
You now have to be 21 to drink in the Netherlands.
Oh, I didn't know that was 18 before.
I think I was 16 when I was a kid.
And they're in restaurants, they're carding people.
This is completely new.
There was never a situation of carding kids.
That's because of the EU. They can't put up with anyone drinking at 18.
Yeah.
It's very surprising.
And why don't they look at the United States just to see that that policy is stupid?
It's stupid.
All you get is fake IDs everywhere.
They're advertised everywhere.
Just buy them for a bit of Bitcoin.
And when kids get their hands on it, then they drink as much as they can.
It's a stupid policy.
It's a head shaker to me.
I think it's the same here.
It's completely stupid.
I don't know.
This is something I can't get worked up about one way or the other.
Oh, I'm not worked up about it.
I think that in Idaho, I believe it's still 18, and I think there's some few states that In Texas, I think you can drink in a restaurant if your parents are there, or legal guardian, and you're 18.
There's some rule about that, which is interesting.
And I saw, you gotta see this, recommendation, a documentary called 42 Grams.
Have you ever heard of this movie?
No.
Oh!
It's about this guy who, I guess he trained at Chef Trotter's Restaurant.
You would know what that means, I don't.
Charlie Trotter.
Charlie Trotter, yeah.
And so he decides to do first an underground restaurant.
This is in Chicago.
And then he opens it up as a real restaurant.
You can only have 20, you know, like 20 place meetings.
And his goal was to get a Michelin star in his first year and, you know, and 10 months after they opened, two Michelin stars.
It's really, if you're into food, it's a very interesting documentary.
42 grams.
Very surprising.
I'd never heard of this first time.
Why are they using a cocaine phrase?
No, it was 2 times 21 grams, and 21 grams is something else.
I can't remember.
But speaking of cocaine...
And while on the topic...
Kudlow, now the advisor to the president.
I got a note from the former New York banker.
One line.
Kudlow is a coke head and an idiot.
That kind of sums it up.
He's supposed to be 15 years clean.
Well, I'm just telling you what the New York banking elite think of him.
Well...
And who was the previous...
I mean, forget, of course, Gary Cohn, but in the Obama administration, who was the economic advisor?
You don't know.
No one gives a crap about this position.
No, it's only been played up by the media because Cohen, you know, quit and they're just looking for anything for a story.
I'm going to find out who this is.
Maybe it wasn't important.
Let's see.
Gary Cohen.
I'm doing the book of knowledge.
Okay.
I can give you a little look.
And the book of knowledge on the wiki page, they always have the previous and, you know, they show you who was there before.
So I go preceded by...
Hold on.
I got...
We're going to find out.
I have a clip.
Jeffrey Zents.
Vaguely rings a bell.
Very vague.
Z-I-E-N-T-S. Here's CNN. Yeah, we know that when President Trump wants advice or affirmation, he frequently turns on the TV. But this is one of the best examples yet of that Trump TV feedback loop.
It's not only that the president live tweets cable news shows, gets ideas from cable news hosts, and sometimes calls them up after they're on the air.
Now we actually see him poaching a host from cable television.
In this case, Larry Kudlow, as you've been talking about.
He should have just said, yes, I think CNBC should be my financial advisor.
That would have been easier.
Get all of them in on it, including Andrew Ross Sorkin.
All these guys are jabronis.
All they can say is buy.
Mark it's down.
Buy the dip.
Time to buy.
It's up.
Buy.
Keep going.
Yeah, nothing's moving.
Time to buy.
1987, Kudlow was hired by Bear Stearns as the chief economist.
Kudlow also served as an economic counsel to A.B. Laffer, San Diego company owned by Arthur Laffer, a major supply site economist.
What does that mean?
He's a member of the board.
Explain this to me because I keep hearing the term.
I'm not going to explain it because I can't fully explain it, but generally speaking, supply-side has to do with production more than demand.
Here, I'll read it.
Supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory that argues economic growth can be most effectively created by lowering taxes and decreasing regulation.
Oh, well, there's that.
Yeah.
According to supply-side economics, consumers should then benefit from greater supply.
In other words, increase the supply of goods, hence supply-side.
Greater supply of goods and services at lower prices and employment will increase.
It was started by economist Robert Mundell during the Ronald Reagan administration.
Yeah, I'm sorry I asked.
You're right.
I just want to make mention that you have to remind me, in the opening I said it's episode 1015, but it's actually 1016.
Oh, you want to do the opening again?
No, no, why not just edit it in?
We'll go, 1016!
Remind me to do that.
Yeah, 1016.
Hold on, I'll record it now.
16!
There you go.
You know the, good, good work.
Yeah.
You know, the funny thing, you called me out for saying 2015, 2016, because it sounds like a familiar year.
I noticed in the newsletter I wrote 2016.
Oh, no.
No, it didn't go out.
I caught it.
Oh, okay.
But as soon as I saw it, I said, oh, and then as soon as I saw it in print, I said, oh, that's why I'm doing it.
It looks like a familiar year that we recently had.
Yes, yes.
Well, I'll edit that little bit in.
No one will notice.
Yeah.
Well, now everyone's going to have to go back and listen.
It'll go...
No, believe me.
By the time we're done, they'll notice.
All right.
So Cutlow's been...
It's not like he's a complete schmuck that's only done TV. But okay, if you want to play it that way.
But it's also...
It's unimportant.
I don't see...
Yeah, I agree.
I don't think it's that important either.
Yeah.
The other guy was only doing it as kind of window dressing.
Meanwhile, they fired...
Explain this to me.
So Tillerson, what I read everywhere, and again, I was in transit between the EU and Gitmo proper.
Whoa, he fired him by a tweet!
I looked, I saw an announcement, but I didn't see him being fired, and is that now, is there any fact to this news?
Yeah, it looks like he fired him by tweet, and he didn't talk to him until two hours after he'd already given his resignation speech.
Really?
Yeah.
Or an hour afterwards, yeah.
It seems to me like he would have known.
Well, here, I got a little, I have the small Tillerson clip.
I have another, I took the whole thing down because there's something in there I need to analyze, but I want you to just listen to Tillerson hyperventilating.
Tell me he's not hyperventilating.
To ensure we have clarities ahead.
What is most important is to ensure an orderly and smooth transition during a time that the country continues to face significant policy and national security challenges.
As such, effective, at the end of the day, I'm delegating all responsibilities of the Office of the Secretary to Deputy Secretary of State Sullivan.
Well, he's not actually hyperventilating, but it does sound like he's extremely out of breath.
He's hyperventilating.
I mean, some people think he's about to cry, but I hyperventilated on stage once.
Yeah, I've had that happen, but...
It's very uncomfortable.
There's no real way of stopping it.
His whole speech was this way.
It's just like...
He's like out of breath is what it sounds like, because that's what it sounds like.
But he's hyperventilating.
That means he must be extremely upset or nervous.
I don't even know what causes it.
When I hyperventilated in public once...
I could never put my finger on why I was doing it in the first place, but I do know that when you start it, it's very hard to stop.
Yeah, you have to take a minute to just catch your breath and slow down.
Yeah, and swallow a few times.
It's extremely uncomfortable.
So, would you think there was emotions here, that Tillerson was surprised?
I think so, yeah.
Well, he shouldn't have been.
In fact, if you start reading enough about it, you find out that he was actually...
For all practical purposes, he was gone in December.
Yeah, after the moron comment.
Yeah, well, the moron comment is what got him fired, as far as anyone can tell.
But Trump made the mistake of saying, oh, no, he's a really good guy.
And so he couldn't fire him right away.
The Trump kiss of death.
Yeah, he's a really good guy.
Great guy.
Yeah, oops.
And so he was out in...
December, according to everybody, he was completely marginalized and nobody wasn't in meetings.
Also, we needed to complete the military coup of the White House, which I think is now complete.
The whole administration is now military.
Isn't Pompeo also military, ex-military?
I don't know if Pompeo was military.
I mean, I think he might be.
Seems like a Marine.
I'm pretty sure.
Okay, we're going to look him up.
This is a day...
The theme today is Wikipedia.
Bing it.
Just bing it.
Let me see.
I wrote a column about Bing it this last week, by the way, for PC Magazine.
Oh, what did you write?
I wrote that we're binging it now.
Wait a minute.
The show?
That on the show we're binging it?
No, I talked about...
I was on Bing, because I have Bing set up, and I started to notice that Bing has...
Many times has better photos.
And this all began when I had that Cochran, the singer, what's his name, Cochran, Billy Cochran, whatever.
Eddie Cochran?
No, the Cochran guy from the 70s with a big Pompidou that was in the, you saw him on the newsletter.
Oh, the guy with the album, oh, the Trump hair.
Yeah, Trump hair guy.
And so I noticed that Bing had much better photos of him.
And so then I started, I stayed on Bing for a while and then I clicked around and I ended up with Bing Maps.
I was stunned by Bing Maps.
They have, besides having everything Google has, including traffic and street view, even though they call it street side.
Yeah.
And it's not as good as Google's, but it's still, it's there.
And it's also harder to navigate.
But they have these traffic cams, little dots all over, and you can click on any one of them, and you can see the traffic cam for that area that you're driving in.
It's really a...
Oh.
And the directions are slightly different.
Ah.
So I would recommend people at least check that out.
Bing it.
Bing it, people.
Pompeo was a West Point grad, served in the Army.
Yeah, West Point grad.
As a captain, so yeah.
Yeah, military.
It's all military.
His net worth, this to me is always a bad sign, unless they're completely wrong.
His net worth is $345,000.
Is he renting?
Apparently.
Hmm, that's not a lot.
No, this is like, he's like Joe Biden, who is like a net worth of nothing.
Hmm, that's interesting.
Meanwhile, I read that, and again, you have to ask if this is true or not.
So he got to be captain.
He made it to captain.
Who's the HUD secretary again, Ben Carson?
Apparently he's worth $49 million.
Yeah, Carson's smart.
From what?
Well, he's smart, but what?
He's a neurosurgeon.
Duh, what a great gig.
Yeah, and he's also, you know, probably, I believe he's part of a couple of those teams.
You know, there's little HMOs that specialize in certain things.
They just make nothing but money.
Cleaning up.
So, yeah.
So, we have Pompeo moving in.
We have...
So, Pompeo's going to be Secretary of State.
This is perfect.
This is a complete military takeover.
And I think it effectively puts the FBI in a very bad position.
Because now it's all CIA guys and gals.
Listen, we have a new CIA director.
Directress.
What's her name?
Gina?
Yeah, Gina is something.
I have a clip of it, of her announcement.
New CIA chief, Gina.
Okay.
Do we need to play the Tillerson backgrounder clip, or are we good on that?
Uh...
We don't need to, I don't think.
I mean, we know what happened.
Okay, here's new CIA Chief Gina.
Pompeo, the choice to succeed him to run the CIA will be Gina Haspel, the first woman to run the spy agency.
But Martha, she doesn't come without controversy either.
Yes, she doesn't.
Gina Haspel was in charge of one of the CIA black sites where they did so-called enhanced interrogation, including waterboarding of Al-Qaeda operative Abu Zubaydah.
Who was waterboarded more than 80 times.
She is no doubt going to be asked about that during confirmation hearings, David.
All right, Martha Raddatz live at our Washington Bureau tonight, Martha.
Yes, of course, they need confirmation hearings, so we'll have a fun time when it comes to that.
And the CIA destroying the documents and all kinds of shenanigans.
Great.
Yeah, she's the one who destroyed a bunch of tapes.
She personally did that?
She personally destroyed tapes?
I think she's ordered it.
Oh.
Well, she was a head before Pompeo brought her up to be a director.
Not director, but whatever's under director.
Assistant director?
Or something.
Yeah.
It's got some title.
Anyway, she was the head of covert operations, and she was like a spook, a real one.
Yeah.
Well, that's who you want.
Well, it depends.
As long as she takes the side of the administration, that's who you want.
But if she's going to just continue this, you know, the WAPO, CIA, you know, attempt at undermining the presidency, that's not who you want.
I don't think so.
Although, you know, there was this big, three-part expose on the World Socialist website about all new Democrats who are running.
And a lot of them are ex-CIA, or if there's any such thing as ex-CIA. I think I might comment on Twitter, because when I first saw that, that's a great piece.
And I'll put it in the next news, and I'll put a link to it.
It's in the show notes for today, too.
Was, uh, good.
Was, uh, something...
Now I forgot my train of thought.
Damn it.
Where's my vitamin D? A number of CIA Democrats running for...
Yeah, the Democrat, well, it went on about how the, uh, all these...
Oh, I also did an exchange with my liberal buddies about this.
Are you going to read them now?
Do you have the actual...
No, I don't have it in front of me.
It's a feature coming up.
They said the CIA is not taking over the Democrat Party.
But this article is about all these ex-CIA people running as Democrats across the country.
Are they running as Trump-hating Democrats?
Or are they running as conservative Democrats or liberal Democrats?
I mean, that guy who just won in Pennsylvania is a conservative Democrat.
That was kind of interesting.
First of all, the margin that he won by was, I guess, pretty tight.
I'm surprised it was that close.
That other guy's just a doofus.
Republicans run a lot of doofuses, and they wonder why they can't win some of these seats.
We don't even know the other guy's name.
That's how much of a doofus he is.
Well, this is the...
One of the ads from, this is Conor Lamb, a Democrat who won this Pennsylvania House seat.
My opponent wants you to believe the biggest issue in this campaign is Nancy Pelosi.
It's all a big lie.
I've already said on the front page of the newspaper that I don't support Nancy Pelosi.
The real issues are the ones that affect your lives.
I'll protect Medicare and Social Security.
Then he goes on.
So, he's against Nancy Pelosi, and then...
Well, yeah, kind of.
Kind of.
And then, what I understand is the Republicans, well, you know, he was a conservative Democrat.
No wonder he won.
You know, it's good, actually.
It's good that the Democrats won there.
Yeah.
And then the...
There was a question about this in some press conference with the Democratic caucus chairman, and here's his response.
This election was not about Nancy Pelosi.
Conor Lamb really localized the issue.
The attempt here to nationalize it by the Republicans, I think they need to get a new game book.
The attempts to use Nancy Pelosi, it's failing them at this point.
And I think, quite frankly, it's sexist.
I should have known better.
Yeah, sure.
Sexist.
She's the boss.
Yeah, she's the boss.
You say anything about the boss and then you're sexist.
Yeah, well that's, you know, there was some...
Funny Pelosi stuff floating around recently.
But here's the guy who ran against the guy who lost.
ABC went after him with this particular little bit.
This is Democrats hate the U.S. and hate God clip.
Payne, Saccone delivering this baseless claim about Democrats.
They have a hatred for our president.
I tell you, many of them have a hatred for our country.
And I'll tell you some more.
My wife and I saw it again today.
They have a hatred for God.
I asked Saccone about this after he voted today.
Do you believe Democrats hate this country and hate God?
He wouldn't answer.
Classic ABC. What they missed was, any collusion?
That should have been in there.
It would have been perfect.
Yeah, I gotta get there.
We gotta ISO with that thing.
Yeah.
Any collusion.
Any collusion?
So the guy was kind of a doofus, and he was not presentable.
The other guy's young, a marine.
You know, he has some charisma.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm surprised that the election was...
In fact, it's a good sign it was as close as it was, at least for the Republicans.
Why?
Because the guy was so good that they almost beat him out?
Yeah.
I think he was a much more presentable candidate.
Yeah.
Well, again, we don't even know the other guy's name, even after playing the clip.
They just said in that report, and I can't remember it either.
I have to look it up.
But the God-hating thing, that's dumb.
It's just dumb to say that.
It's stupid.
That's as dumb as what Hillary Clinton said.
Yeah.
I got that clip.
This was surprising.
Is this the one where she's in India?
I believe so.
I'm not sure, actually.
Because I have a Hillary clip where she's in India and she's condemning white women.
Yeah, that's what I got here.
We do not do well with white men and we don't do well with married white women.
And part of that is an identification with the Republican Party and a sort of ongoing pressure to...
Vote the way that your husband, your boss, your son, whoever, believes you should.
Yeah, that's just for white women, mind you.
Yeah.
And white men.
This is the most racist thing I've heard.
She's the worst.
It's just racist.
It's textbook definition.
And she gets a reasonable pass.
Well, that was a dumb thing to say.
No, she got a lot of, don't kid yourself.
A reasonable pass, I'm saying.
I don't think she got a pass at all.
No one called her a racist.
Oh, well, the racist thing could have been tossed at her.
Yeah!
Here's a note I have from Jason Ditzel, which kind of relates to this.
We of Gen X are raising Gen Z, and we're going to talk about this a little bit on the show.
They are listening to No Agenda, Alex Jones, and Rush Limbaugh with us today.
Discussing liberty and fractional reserve currency at the table.
And getting their bullshit-tometers calibrated.
Doing my part to educate Gen Z so they can save the damn republic.
Like Tim Jason.
Yeah, good luck.
Save the republic.
No.
I'm afraid not.
It doesn't appear that way.
Well, what really...
There's more influence from peer groups than there are, seems to me...
From a lot of parents.
But kids, generally speaking, and this would apply to Hillary haters and the Trump haters and everybody in between, and I want to ask people, if you're listening to this, ask yourself, do you vote the way your parents voted?
Okay.
I would say 90% of the people would say, yeah, my dad was a Democrat, I'm a Democrat, my dad was a Republican, I'm a Republican.
Very few people switch around.
And I, which I've done, I've switched from, I was a Democrat, my dad was a Democrat, I should be a Democrat.
No, no, no.
I gave up on that, became a Republican, then I became an Independent, then I became what in California you can do, which is non-affiliated.
Is that like independent?
No, independent is a separate category.
What's the difference?
Non-affiliated means, no, you can't label me!
Oh, okay.
A very California thing.
So I'm non-affiliated.
And it means I'm not an independent.
I'm not a Democrat.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm me.
I've got to be me.
But how many people out there do that?
They don't.
They tend to vote, which is what the Democrats are banking on, because they figure, well, if everybody comes in, all the...
Latinos come in illegally, they're all going to vote Democrat, and then their kids will vote Democrat, and then they'll reproduce a lot, and you're going to end up with the Democrat takeover of the country.
With this assumption that what your parents do, you do.
Well, that was pretty obvious with this whole school walkout, which I thought was intended to be a 17 minutes of remembrance.
But all I saw was a lot of kids being abused by adults again for political means, which, as I learned, in Connecticut is against the law.
Yes, I got that same note.
It was from Dame Jamie.
Yeah, it was very ticked off.
She went berserk and started mailing everyone and doing whatever she could and bitching about this was a violation of Connecticut law.
Yeah, teachers can't...
What was the exact...
Politicizers.
You couldn't do anything like this, essentially, what it was.
But I think it's true.
I mean, all I saw were clips of Democratic leaders holding hands with the kids and talking about guns.
And I just think...
And not a single kid I saw interviewed...
I didn't even pull clips.
I didn't see a single one that had an actual message about what they would want.
Just, you know, something's got to be done.
Okay.
Well, what does that mean?
Stop gun violence now.
Yeah.
We demand you stop gun violence now.
Yeah.
Okay.
How does that work?
And all the reports in Europe, you know, the way they make it sound, which is the same here, is these kids, you know, they can't believe their lawmakers haven't done anything to, you know, just to get guns off the street, to stop guns, get guns away.
And not a single mention of the Second Amendment.
Not a single one.
From, you know, BBC, Sky News.
Oh, no, they don't know what the Second Amendment is in Europe.
They really don't understand it.
I guess they don't want Europeans to understand what a constitution is.
That would be wrong.
No, can't have that.
I did have a clip from one of the students.
This is part of the student thing.
This was, um, what did I do with it?
Student walkout girl mentions Columbine.
I thought this was weird.
We should be able to go and feel safe and learn and not have to fear that something might happen.
In Evanston, Illinois, the teenagers calling their legislators to demand gun reform.
I'm calling to request that you take action.
Our parents had wars and we have Columbine.
And there, at Columbine, where 13 died, a tribute to the victims of both tragedies.
Yeah, most of these kids weren't even born during Columbine.
Now, the thing is, is that Columbine, where 13 were dead, she's equating it with our parents had wars.
I don't know if she realizes maybe they don't teach it.
50 million people died in World War II alone.
Yeah.
No, that's Columbine.
We lost our Columbine.
That's our, you know, we had Columbine.
Our parents had these stupid wars.
And by the way, what about the other school shootings besides Columbine?
She doesn't mention any of them.
How about Vegas with 58 people killed?
Columbine.
But even more obvious is the mines programming.
really pollution.
When we have an issue in the United States and we don't want to do anything about it, we just declare war on it.
You know, war on poverty, war on drugs, anything we really don't want to change, just declare war.
We're homeless.
Yeah.
And then actual wars, we don't declare them, which is the cool thing about it.
We go bomb some country, we don't declare war.
Meh.
This is South Carolina.
Is this Governor?
Henry McMaster, about the student walkouts.
I understand that there's a left-wing group that is coordinating this around the country.
I think the children, it appears that these school children, innocent school children, are being used as a tool by a left-wing group to further their own agenda.
It is not about the tragedy, it's not about the school children, what we should all do and what these students should do, and I imagine a lot of them intend to do is to pray and to hope for the families of those who were slain.
This is a tricky move, I believe, by a left-wing group, from the information I've seen, to use these children as a tool to further their own means.
It sounds like a protest to me.
It's not a memorial.
It's certainly not a press service.
It's a political statement by a left-wing group, and it's so shameful.
I agree.
It is shameful.
I think it's abuse.
Well, they could find somebody a little more erudite than this character.
Well, people are afraid to say these things.
They're afraid.
I was watching The View.
Ah!
I know.
By accident.
Yeah.
And they had, you know, there's McCain girls on there now.
Yeah, Megan.
And she has said, I think I have a clip of at least part of this, which led to her saying, I don't think I should talk about...
I don't think I should talk about it.
Here it is.
I'll play this afterwards.
She says, I don't think I should be talking about this, about the student walkout and all the rest, because I'm for the Second Amendment and I'm an NRA proud member.
She is?
Sorry?
Behar is a proud member of the NRO. No, no, no.
McCain.
McCain.
It scared me.
Like, what?
Behar.
So, she goes on and on, and then she says, and she says that these guys who are representing all students is like, it's marginalizing a lot of kids who are conservatives that...
You know, are fine with guns.
Well, I think the point is...
She got shouted down for that, by the way.
Well, of course.
But the point is, what if children in Texas, not Austin, but in Texas, decided to do a march, a pro-life march?
They wouldn't have received the same type of fawning adulation that this march did.
No, pro-life marches are known to not really attract a lot of media.
I think it would have been the opposite.
It would have been a lot of crazy, unhinged media these days.
No?
I don't think so.
They just ignore it.
They have their agenda.
They do what they do.
And this, you know, they don't realize.
Well, you're going to play some Behar?
Because I got a, I got a, well, I do have, I have, I have Behar going, you know, she goes after pants and then she has to apologize.
And I was kind of amused by that.
I don't know if we should play it, but I was, and her apology was just so insincere.
It was unbelievable.
But she was on the show about the students.
I pulled, this is not about the student protest, but it's about something else, which is one of our themes of our show, which is how a false narrative, which is the best way to put it because people hate that word, a false narrative that's created somewhere along the way, in
Russian meddling in the election, or worse, the way Behar puts it, And it's thrown into the media, it's thrown into the public domain, and it's used, or like the red line in Syria, and the Syrians gas their own people, which at the base doesn't make any sense.
It becomes part of the lexicon, it's part of everyone accepts it.
It becomes true, it's just true.
It's a fact, it's true, it's in the history books.
It's not true, it's just all bullshit.
And here's Behar delivering on one of these.
It reminds me of the 60s, not that I was born yet, but, you know...
But I heard that people took to the streets.
And it's interesting.
At that time, it was against the Vietnam War.
And this time, it's against guns.
So it takes violence, I think, sometimes to get people on their feet and get out there.
Like, we've been cyberattacked by the Russians.
Everybody knows that now.
But because it's not something that you can, like, see, it's not a gun, it's not tangible, people are not reacting the way they probably should.
Cyberattacked!
We've been cyber-attacked.
We've been cyber-attacked by the Russians, as everyone knows that to be true.
It's fact.
She even adds that.
It's beautiful.
Everybody knows this is true.
This is a fact.
I'm not even going to go into explaining what really happened.
We've explained it on the show.
And it doesn't matter.
I want to hear her apology for...
Well, first you want to hear what she said.
Well, you can skip that.
Yeah, just play the apology and you'll hear a, this is after Pence went after her.
So, yeah.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
So Pence goes after her and a couple of different media.
So the word is ABC got a little upset and demanded that she – because she kept going on with this.
Now I've got to hear the original.
Let's listen to the original.
And I think when you have a Mike Pence that now sort of puts this religious veneer on things and calls people values voters, I think we're in a dangerous situation.
I'm a faithful person.
But I don't know that I want my vice president...
You know, speaking in tongues and having Jesus speak to them.
Like I said before, I don't know if I want that.
It's one thing to talk to Jesus.
It's another thing when Jesus talks to you.
Exactly!
That's different!
That's different!
That's called mental illness if I'm not correct.
No hearing voices.
My question is can he talk to Mary Magdalene without his wife in the room?
I don't think so.
That's me.
I don't think so.
I don't think anyone could be worse than Trump.
Okay.
Why would you worry about Mike Pence and his religiosity and everything else?
I don't think that he's mentally ill, even though he says he hears hearing voices.
I don't think he's that crazy.
He has no charisma whatsoever.
I don't think he would get re-elected.
I don't think he would want to destroy the environment.
I don't think that he would make it his life's purpose to go against everything Obama did.
I don't think he would antagonize Kim Jong-un.
That's why I think he would be better.
Because Trump is the worst that we've ever had.
Yeah.
Okay, well, it wasn't all that bad, but...
No, it wasn't that bad, but she did associate mental illness with...
Sure, with religiosity, whatever that means.
Yeah.
How about just religion?
It's a word.
Or belief or whatever.
Religiosity is a word?
Oh, yeah.
All right, now the apology?
Yeah, so I think Vice President Pence is right.
I was raised to respect everyone's religious faith and I fell short of that.
I sincerely apologize for what I said.
Okay.
Woo!
Yeah!
Go, girl!
Yeah, let's get back to guns.
Right on cue.
And when we're talking about bringing more guns into schools, Don Q! I'm just on my phone in the back of the class.
This is, actually I should set this up better.
This is a teacher was showing gun safety in the class and it went off.
His gun went off.
Yeah, the guy's a cop too.
Hit the ceiling, ricochets, you know, piece of fragment hits a kid.
Here's the kid and his dad.
I'm just on my phone in the back of the class.
Now that right there is enough.
Hey, you're in school.
Why are you in the back of the class on your phone?
Just as a small, small minor nitpick.
Nobody asks them anything about that.
Small minor nitpick.
What are you doing in school if you're just in the back on your phone?
Okay.
And then I hear a loud, like, boom.
I don't know what it was at first.
And everyone's, like, all laughing and saying stuff.
And I notice that it's a gun that went off.
And then my friend said, oh, you got shot.
And I was just laughing because I didn't even feel anything because it happened so fast.
And then I look at my shirt like that, and there's blood on my shirt.
And then I wipe my neck, kind of, and a bullet fragment comes off my neck.
I'm highly skeptical it was a bullet fragment.
But, I mean, you've got to think...
For this to happen, is it just right on cue?
Is it just, hey, who's going to shoot one off in the class so we can show it's a bad idea?
I'll do it, boss.
I'll do it.
Yeah, now you have this argument, you can say.
Well, a teacher should have guns.
That's what Trump says.
He's an idiot.
Because here's a teacher with a gun who's a cop, too.
And he can't even control the gun.
He shot it off accidentally.
So this is a bad idea.
If you've got a teacher who's actually a cop, he knows how to use a gun and he can't do it.
How could a regular teacher do it?
And the kid was black and should have added some racial elements.
So much they miss, always.
Well, they always miss something, but they figure it's good enough.
Yeah, it's all part of the scheme just to shut down any opposition.
It's not going to work.
Well, the sad thing is that we have less and less talk about the SSRIs and drugs that are making kids crazy.
And yes, that goes back to Columbine.
There's no conversation about that at all.
Although, Samantha Bee...
Her show's still on the air.
I didn't realize this.
Yeah, surprisingly.
Still on the air.
She had a segment about mental health and the alt-right and white men, boys, kids...
That was so astonishing.
I cut it down.
It was very long.
I cut down all the funny little clips that she goes to.
They're completely unnecessary.
And actually, it's kind of better when you just hear almost a full read of what she's trying to communicate.
It's a little long, but I did want to listen to it because it really shows you the...
The thinking, and I think it's scary.
It's scary thinking.
Right now, the party that voted over 50 times to weaken mental health care is suddenly very concerned about mental health care.
Not like concerned in the sense of funding it or doing anything about it, but concerned enough to use it as a distraction.
A sicko like this guy.
He was a sick guy.
A lunatic kid gone crazy at a poster trial for a mentally deranged individual.
A deranged madman.
This insane monster.
This individual was nuts.
If we keep screaming that he's crazy, everyone will forget that he did this with a gun that no one should ever have in the first place.
Now look.
You see, this is very well done.
That she's turning it around.
Where we're here on the sidelines saying, hey, think about crazy.
Think about what's making these people this way.
And she turns it around and says, oh no, that's the distraction.
It should be about guns which nobody should have.
And she clarifies that.
It's her own opinion.
Ah!
We all know how I feel about guns.
I hate them and I want to melt them down into jewelry for transgender vegans.
And I ask all for more funding for mental health, especially for my writers, every last one of whom has seasonal affective disorder.
Guys, please get up.
I promise I'll introduce you to John Oliver one day.
But most mass murderers aren't mentally ill.
Only about 22% of them are.
That's an interesting statistic.
Where'd she get that?
Well, there's a difference between being mentally ill and being on antidepressants.
Well, did she go back in?
She said most mass murderers, didn't she?
Let me see what she said.
Come on, back it up.
Every last one of whom has seasonal affective disorder.
Guys, please get up.
I promise I'll introduce you to John Oliver one day.
But most mass murderers aren't mass murderers.
Mass murderers.
Hmm.
Mass shooters, different than mass murderers.
I would say all mass murderers are mentally ill.
But, okay.
I would think so.
But, again, it's about the distraction.
Mentally ill.
Only about 22% of them are.
That means the other 78% are just hateful assholes.
And, yes, Nicholas Cruz was mentally ill, but entirely...
Of which we have absolutely no proof, more or less than any other case.
Have we seen reports that said he was mentally ill?
No.
He was going to therapy.
She's contradicting herself, actually.
Separate from that, he was also a violent bigot.
Nicholas Cruz wasn't the only mass shooter to hold racist views.
Oh, please.
She shows Instagram and all this stuff, and he's wearing the MAGA hat.
This is what's interesting.
Southern Poverty Law Center is in her show now.
Nicholas Cruz was mentally ill, but entirely separate from that, he was also a violent bigot.
Nicholas Cruz wasn't the only mass shooter to hold racist views.
In fact, the Southern Poverty Law Center has developed a profile for what they call alt-right killers.
This is good.
Alt-right went from a media, you know, kind of media, online stories, to a group of killers.
Wow.
Alt-right, what did she say?
Alt-right murderers?
Is that what she said?
Back it up.
Yeah, this is insane.
A violent bigot.
Nicholas Cruz wasn't the only mass shooter to hold racist views.
In fact, the Southern Poverty Law Center has developed a profile for what they call alt-right killers.
Alt-right killers.
There you go.
Beautiful.
Young white men characterized by their indoctrination into alt-right ideology and their appreciation of Rick and Morty on a level that you couldn't possibly get.
Although funny, it's scary to say these things.
Just because they consider themselves alt-right, now they're killers?
I think that's taking it a bit far.
So far, the SPLC has identified 13 alt-right killers who have murdered or injured over 100 people.
This baker's dozen of nightmares includes Dylann Roof, Elliot Rodger, and Charlottesville killer James Alex Fields.
But where are these young, angry white men becoming radicalized?
The internet.
On a podcast.
On a podcast.
These people are basically white ISIS, except more effective.
That's right.
The only thing that white supremacists are actually better at than brown people is terrorism.
And wearing shorts with the most pockets.
Look, I am not saying that every young man who gets red-pilled is being radicalized.
Oh, wait.
No.
Yes, I am.
Because that is what being red-pilled means.
Wow.
Now we've gone from alt-right white guys, alt-white, They're killers, and now you've been red-pilled, i.e.
you may not agree with the current agenda.
When it comes to online radicalization, red pillars don't always start off wanting to burn down the world.
Maybe they're just looking for dating tips.
Many of these communities are of self-labeled incels, short for involuntarily celibate.
I mean, sure, okay, I mean, I call myself a Big Call the Midwife fan, which is really my favorite online community.
LAUGHTER Believe it or not, incels have a lot to say about women who they call roasties, which I guess is a slur about how cis women's genitals look like roast beef.
Well, joke's on them because my vagina is actually a fully functioning gelato shop.
It's way too cold in there, and everyone tells me the ones in Italy are better.
You know, this is a trick that was learned on the...
Jon Stewart's show that's used also by Colbert to a less extent, but mostly by, what's his name, the British guy, Oliver.
Oliver.
Which is, as you start going into these serious...
You lighten it up with something that's extremely off the topic and very funny to relax the audience so they're more susceptible to more of the propaganda.
That's right.
You throw the joke in and then you throw in another piece of horrible propaganda.
Exactly.
Although this joke was pretty funny.
Well, all the jokes are pretty funny.
That's what these people are.
They're comics.
They can be funny.
But I don't like the idea of propagandists...
Being comics.
And do you think that this is done on purpose?
It's a formula.
Right.
But is the formula...
Did Samantha Bee say, how can I mind control people?
No.
Okay.
It's just a formula that works and gets laughs.
Well, I hope not.
I think she's...
They have these opinions, which they have amongst themselves.
They're extremists.
Anti-American is the way I see it, but I could be extreme by saying that.
Yeah.
And they want to get these opinions out, and they know they're harsh, and so they back off on the harshness with this very funny material, like you just said.
Ah, it's pretty funny.
It's all pretty funny.
And so they can keep you relaxed enough to keep hearing the bullcrap that they're delivering, most of which is bullcrap, period.
Let's listen to another minute.
...functioning gelato shop.
It's way too cold in there, and everyone tells me the ones in Italy are better.
All right, mass killers aren't isolated.
They grow out of online communities where people idolize Santa Barbara killer Elliot Rodger, film message board after message board with praise for school shootings, and Photoshop Dylan Roof's haircut onto their avatars.
To be clear, these are people who don't know why they're sort of it.
Bullcrap.
Look, these kinds of online communities are where Nicholas Cruz, Elliot Rodger, and a lot of mass shooters were made.
Isn't it fun to imagine a glorious world where we take that threat as seriously as we take Muslim refugees and aggressively peaceful black people?
Before an alt-right shooter starts mass shooting, he's just an angry white man who hates women and people of color.
And being angry and hateful is not a mental illness.
In fact, some days it feels like it's as American as apple pie.
These people lost their lives to the alt-right.
Oh yeah, anti-Trump, anti-America.
If we want to prevent more deaths, we have to not just treat mental illness but fight hate.
Therapists can't cure hundreds of years of misogyny and racism and we shouldn't ask them to.
So you know what?
In the meantime, let's just do whatever the fuck Emma and her friends tell us to do.
We'll be right back.
So that was, you know, she says, let's fight hate, but if you really break that down, that was hate-filled.
Completely, from beginning to end.
And racist.
Again, racist.
It's such a bad message.
Oh.
And it's along the same lines of, you know, we were cyber-attacked.
Fact, everybody knows it.
Now it's just white men suck balls.
And they all hate women.
They hate women.
We can't get laid.
We're incels.
Involuntary celibate.
I'd never heard of this term.
Incels.
Involuntary celibates.
Who comes up with this crap?
We'll be long gone.
But I'm going to tell you, this will have effects.
This has effects, this kind of hate speech.
This is a divisive material, extremely so.
And the subtlety, which has to be...
We could listen to the whole clip again.
I don't want to.
No.
But we could listen to the whole clip again, and you'd hear the subtleties that are actually propaganda in themselves, where, for example, she says that mass murderers are not insane.
Yeah.
Yeah, only 22% are mentally ill.
Yeah, only 22% of mass murderers are mentally ill.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Yeah, she didn't even say school shooters.
It was just mass killers.
Mass murderers.
Mass murderers, yes.
No, they're sane.
Oh, they're sane.
Makes nothing but sense.
And she slips that in, which is just nonsense.
It was a work of art.
But that's why I stopped watching her, because I get so annoyed by it.
You get triggered.
I get triggered by the fact that I'm watching someone trying to pull one over.
Yeah.
And I don't consider it funny.
And every time she does one of those aside jokes, which is Oliver does the same thing, and there's a formula for it.
You throw this material in and it lightens up the person you laugh, which makes you open for the next salvo of constant nonsense.
Yeah.
And people cite, oh, what John Oliver said about this on the last show.
This guy's a comic.
Are you kidding me?
No, he single-handedly raised awareness for net neutrality, John.
He is the guy.
Right.
Perfect example.
His net neutrality argument was completely bogus.
Yeah.
But it was using the same tricks.
Yeah.
That, again, all stem back to the Jon Stewart show, where they were developed.
It's almost like a cult.
And they're all buddies to this day.
I mean, if you watch the Stephen Colbert show at all, he'll bring Samantha Bee on all the time.
Bring Colbert on all the time.
I'll say, though, this is...
I'm sorry, Colbert will bring on Stewart all the time.
He'll bring on his other pal.
He'll bring on Oliver all the time.
They are the only group of comedians who have actually enabled to continue to make funny comedy.
Because of that formula, I think.
Because most comedians are just flailing and failing.
Even Chris Rock, even Chris Rock can't really pull it off anymore.
Everything's so politically correct.
Well, there is a problem with some of that.
And those guys, right.
And these guys can, they can pull it off because, yeah, the formula makes it politically correct, whatever you say.
Exactly.
As long as it's a joke.
Well, with that, it's high time for me to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. U.S.E. stands for Can't Label Me Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning to all chefs at sea and blitz on the ground and feet in the air and subs in the water and all the dames, all the knights out there.
Yes, in the morning to everybody in the troll room.
Good to see you there.
We got some actual trolls.
Always fun to have them show up.
Also...
Actual trolls.
Oh yeah, we're trolling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're trolling.
They're trolling for reals.
In the morning to Max Gravy.
He brought us the artwork for episode 1015.
Title of that was The Pentacon.
And this was the ophthalmologist's eye chart.
With a brief.
So it said, Noah Jens, Bess Podge, Inda Univ, Crack Poe and Buzzy K. Why?
In the morn?
There was something about it we liked.
I liked it.
Yeah.
So let's thank a few people who are executive and associate executive producers for show 1016.
I would just say noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all the artwork from our fantastic artists who provide this as their value for value in our ecosystem.
Yeah, go there now.
Sir Slotcar is at the top of the list, tied with Sir David of the Show Me State.
Sir Slotcar, $333.33.
Nice.
Sir Slotcar, Baron of all podunks, with an exhortation to all people to donate.
Donate!
NJNK. NJNK, thank you.
Sir David of the Show Me State, $333.33 sent in a note.
That was a check.
And it was kind of slim, too.
Whoop, whoop, whoop.
This is the wrong...
You okay?
I'm looking for the...
You went whoop, whoop, whoop.
I go through a whole process to make sure that this stuff is...
Oh, okay.
And then you drop the pile or it fell over?
No, it was like...
What I did, I have the thing stapled together, but instead of grabbing it, I grabbed it and something else.
So this note, which I know is at the bottom of this pile...
It disappeared.
It was like a magic act that I pulled on myself.
Anyway, short note.
Dear sirs, below is my no agenda haiku.
In the morning, gents, every show speaks to me.
Grateful for you both.
Sir David of the Show Me State.
Alright.
A nice haiku.
It misses the kind of a, there's a haiku thing you should do, which is a little switcheroo deal at the end.
Yeah, I think we should run this through the haiku analyzer.
I'm sure there's one online that analyzes if that's a proper haiku.
Tim Lang.
No jingles, no karma, no nothing for Sir David.
I can read his note again.
No, I'm just checking.
Tim Lang, 250 bucks.
Drop off.
ITM, my humble contributions toward the no agenda auto gyro.
Yes!
Only 400,000 pounds to go.
Yeah.
I wonder if they're actually making that thing.
This donation brings you to the $1,000 knighthood threshold.
All the best from Gitmo Nation, Stinky Fruit, Durian, Singapore.
Ah, nice.
I look forward to...
He sent some bookkeeping in, and so he's going to be knighted, and he's got no comments for jingles or anything.
I'm going to give him some karma, and he has a knighting later on, so karma is appropriate.
You've got karma.
Sir Luke Rayner, the Baron of London, from London, UK, 2222.
I've been a bit of a douche.
This is my first donation of 2018, and I'd like to request karma for my first bike event of the year this coming Sunday.
The weather is wonderful in London right now, but due to global warming, there's a chance it could snow on Sunday.
It's going down to minus five again.
Jeez.
Wow.
That's terrible.
People are pissed off.
Yeah, they don't understand.
No agenda karma will ensure that the event runs flawlessly.
It's worked before.
Keep up the great work, Sir Luke Rayner, the Baron of London.
You've got karma.
John Helmer in Shawnee, Kansas.
200.
You'll be our last Associate Executive Producer shortlist today.
ITM, this donation is a cut of the equity from the recent sale of our home and subsequent move to a new house.
Thanks for keeping me sane during the long hours of packing, moving, and unpacking boxes.
I've discovered during this move that I've become archivist, just like John.
Mm-hmm.
Who am I kidding?
We're just hoarders.
Thanks for the...
Hey.
Thanks for the great shows as of late.
And I want to give a shout-out to my 16-year-old son, Andrew, who I hit in the mouth.
For jingles, I'd say any L Sharpton versus the teleprompter.
Stop the hammering and a goat scream karma.
Yours...
Sir John of Shawnee, Kansas.
Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back, or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance.
But resist, we must, we must, and we will much about that be committed.
Stop the hammering!
You've got karma.
He never grows old.
Never.
No.
And by the way, there's some clips of him in that documentary I sent you to.
Okay.
But he was younger.
Ah, with teleprompter flubs that I can clip?
No, probably not.
Oh, we need some new ones, that's why.
We're out.
Oh, well, he doesn't have his daily show anymore.
Damn it.
I don't even know if this weekly show plays that often.
I think it may have been killed.
They did it silently.
So we're out of luck.
Well, that wraps it up for our executive producers and associate executive producers.
We thank you very much.
Of course, both of you, or all four of you.
No, five, sorry.
So we've got two execs and three associate executive producers.
We put your credits right up front in the show.
This is how it works.
We do not take any money from advertisers, corporate interests, or anything.
It's just you, the producers, who do it.
And when you come in with $200 or $300, anything above that, you...
Get your title, which you can, well, you get your credit, which can be used anywhere.
Credits are recognized.
We hear LinkedIn works really great.
And we'll have another show on Sunday.
Please check us out at Dvorak.org slash NA. Get your gateway to Chinese porn.
Just click on the stickers link.
That's right.
You can propagate the formula with them.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Shut up, slaves.
Shut up, slaves.
So I brought up that page yesterday with all intents to fix it.
And so what I... Oh, the donation page?
Yes, okay.
It's got this stickers thing.
It's funny.
But the other one that's off is that there was another piece that was wrong.
I had to rewrite it a little bit.
And...
People can go donate right now to something and then you'll see what we're talking about.
Because it'll pop up at the end.
And so then I said, well, you know, when I open Dreamweaver...
Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait.
Dreamweaver?
Yeah.
Are you sure it's not front page?
I feel very funny.
Anyway, so...
Dreamweaver is funny too, believe me.
What do you use to edit your web pages?
I don't edit anything.
I use my freedom controller.
It creates them automatically.
I don't have to go in and hack HTML. I don't need to do that.
Dreamweaver.
Again, what do you use to edit your web pages?
So anyway, I wasn't going to do it because, meanwhile, MailChimp has these two new things I've been wanting to check out.
One was create a landing page, and the other one was create an ad.
And I said, well, this could be an ad or a landing page.
I mean, it's what it kind of looks like.
It's kind of a landing page.
So I go...
No, it's like the ad is like a whole customized thing for getting an ad into Facebook.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, yeah.
And then the landing page, I couldn't figure out heads or tails what they were trying to accomplish.
They're probably trying to show some kind of click-through metric or some kind of conversion metric.
I have no idea.
All I know is the landing page, I think, was to get people to get on your mailing list.
Whatever...
The case, I was so disappointed I got disheartened and I never worked on the page.
I never opened Dreamweaver.
Okay.
We had a helicopter crash in New York City.
Yes.
And I, of course, saw the video and I heard the...
I have some standing.
I've been a pilot of rotorcraft for, what, 10 years now?
12 years?
A long time.
And I saw, you know, it seemed like procedures were kind of being followed.
Engine failure.
Mayday call.
He's in autorotation, but very poor.
His floats are deployed.
The doors are open.
These are all standard procedure.
Open the doors.
Floats, if you got them.
But he had no flare.
F-L-A-R-E. The pilot did not flare properly.
They smacked the water hard, which would have, I mean, it could have been a perfect water landing, and then they topple over, and I guess because of the types of harnesses they were using during a photo flight, Where maybe the doors were open all the time.
Clearly had poor instruction on how to release the harness, which is one twist.
And of course, you've got almost freezing water, so you don't have a lot of time.
So very sad.
Day wrecker, as we say in the aviation business.
But the news of how this happened is bullcrap.
...died.
Among the victims, a Dallas firefighter and a tourist from Argentina.
Pilot Richard Vance told police a strap from a passenger's bag may have accidentally wrapped around and pulled an emergency fuel cutoff lever like this.
The tourists trapped in their harnesses similar to these as the chopper turned over and sank.
What they showed, the this, was a manual throttle lever that could have retarded the engine, but these things are slaved.
I mean, you no longer use those.
They're all connected to your collective, which has the...
The throttle, you twist the collective, which is the stick in the middle, for people who don't know what it is, you twist that to control the engine RPMs, and the servo would have pushed it right back.
In any case, it would not have stalled the engine.
The pilot would have just been able to rev it back up.
There is an emergency fuel cutoff on the, and I know this helicopter, I've flown it, the AS350B, and it's on the collective itself.
It's a switch, and it has a trigger guard in there.
I mean, there's no way a bag, if a bag wrapped around that, the helicopter would have been making some crazy moves.
So this is just not true.
At least, you know, the story, they say that's what the pilot said.
I'm surprised the pilot spoke to them at all.
But it's not true.
So I don't know what happened there.
Probably didn't.
No, no.
So I don't understand why any airman would even suggest that.
And then what the news showed had nothing to do with it.
Well, now I think we've had a breakthrough here.
Because you're knowledgeable.
We've proven that the news media is full of crap.
Yes.
Gee!
1,016 episodes and we've done it!
Finally, proof.
Proof positive.
Yeah, well, you know, the BBC is now trying to teach kids how to spot fake news.
Yeah, this was good.
Did you play the little game they made?
Of course not.
Oh.
So they've made, the BBC has put together an online game where you become a reporter.
And you get your briefing, you know, hey, it was so, so long and so stupid, I didn't pull any clips from it.
But you have to now go and figure out how do you determine what is real news and fake news.
And I have probably six or seven videos on this BBC website.
I cut one down.
That kind of gives you the idea of what they think, A, what is fake news?
What constitutes fake news?
So the definition of it by itself, which actually, what do you think fake news is, John?
What is fake news?
I think it's a variety of things, and I believe that the definition of fake news is somewhat vague.
And I don't think it's a generally accepted definition.
I think some people see fake news.
The most extremist opinion is fake news is something that's created out of the blue to go into the mainstream.
And there's no basis in truth to any of it.
I think that's the classic fake news.
Hoax would be another word for that.
Then I think...
Slanted stories that leave out important facts, I personally think is fake news, which is what we talk about mostly on this show.
And there's a lot of stuff that, oh, this is a real story?
Yes, it's a real story, but the way you're telling it, you just gave us a good example with the helicopter.
By the strongest definition, you could say that was fake news.
But there was not fake news so far as the helicopter crash didn't happen.
It did.
The BBC categorizes fake news as news that is untrue.
I believe in this clip they also say it can also be by omission, but it only is fake news if it's untrue or something is omitted and therefore distorting the truth for political or commercial gain.
They have a very distinct definition of it, which is, I think, the first time anyone's really defined it that way, which is...
Yeah, I don't think...
What do you think?
I like the definition because there's a fake new style which is just good for the LOLs.
The lulls.
The lulls.
There's no political or commercial gain involved.
It's just some jokers having fun.
That's a parody?
It's a hoax.
Let's listen to their child indoctrination video.
Woo-hoo!
Boom-chack!
Come on, kids!
Boom-chack!
We're all so hip.
Fake news.
We think it's a problem.
I think fake news is a problem because it can influence how people make decisions.
It leaves me feeling like I don't know who to believe.
And it worries me that people are growing up misinformed.
And if we're misinformed, how can we understand the world around us?
I think it's a problem because it leads to confusion.
And we begin to mistrust all news sources.
Now, during this really hip beat, there were large sections where it's just the beat, which I cut out, and they have big words, big yellow words, you know, white words, just to tell you what it is.
You know, fake news is what it is.
But what exactly is it?
Fake news is lies and propaganda told for a political or commercial purpose which deploys digital technology, social media, new networks to go viral, to reach around the world and influence millions of people.
I know, I know.
I knew that would trigger you.
That's the BBC, man.
That's their head of news saying this.
It's bullcrap.
So in other words, what he's saying is that if one of these bogus stories, I will mention one of them.
I've been working on it.
I haven't gotten anywhere.
If you remember, it was in the Washington Post.
It was about how Trump was selling off some art or something, and he wanted to the story, to the...
Guggenheim.
And he wanted, in exchange, he wanted a golden toilet that they had on the exhibit.
No, that's what they gave him.
They gave him the golden toilet.
Oh, they gave him a golden toilet.
And this was played as a straight news story to make him look like an idiot.
And so I contacted the public relations department.
Aha!
They refused to discuss it.
Would they at least corroborate it?
Nope.
Huh.
That's interesting.
So I believe the story was made up and that Guggenheim is like coy about it because they don't want to get their tit in their ringer because they rely on donations like we do from people that fund this thing.
Yeah, except we don't edit ourselves like that, like they do, but okay.
No, we don't.
But we don't have the...
Same intent that they have.
They have a museum.
We don't.
Look at what's in this show.
We're museum pieces.
What are you talking about?
We have a museum.
So I believe that's a fake news story.
It's in a newspaper, so it doesn't qualify under the BBC. Yeah, especially because it's only fake news if it then is used on social media to create memes and go viral.
Yeah.
All of this attempted to go viral, but the Trump stuff is like, people are getting sick of it.
I think we also have to note that something can also go viral on television news.
And we see that all the time.
Well, let's continue.
I love this little bit, the BBC indoctrinating the kids.
...told for a political or commercial purpose which deploys digital technology, social media, new networks to go viral, to reach around the world and influence millions of people very, very quickly.
Why not just call it propaganda then?
I mean, if it's propaganda that uses online networks, just call it what it is, propaganda.
Fake news is one of those phrases of the moment.
But essentially, we're talking about news stories, information that people are deliberately trying to distort for political advantage or commercial advantage.
For example, trying to get profit or make a profit out of a situation.
Well, there you go.
Isn't that native advertising?
No, that's what CNN and MSNBC and Fox News are.
They all exploit stories, put their own slant on it for commercial gain, for ratings.
So, yeah, news is fake news, by your definition.
So what about news that's just wrong, like when someone's just made a mistake?
Mistakes can be made.
Journalists sometimes make mistakes.
Oh, but not often.
Or sometimes you might be reading a story and the headline could be misleading.
Or a photo in that story could have been changed in some way.
It might even have been changed to make you laugh, to make you want to share it.
These stories we wouldn't necessarily call fake news, but they are misleading in some ways.
So if fake or false stories tell us something is real when it's actually not...
What about when someone tells us something is fake or false, when it's actually real and true?
We need to be very careful about the misuse of the phrase fake news.
If you're a politician who wants to close down debate, then you might use the phrase fake news because you don't want people to ask you questions about something uncomfortable.
And that's a legitimate area for democratic inquiry, so it's really important that we're clear about what fake news does and doesn't mean.
You're feeling confused.
I'm feeling confused, right?
There's all these words.
Fake news, hoaxes, spin.
But in the end, just be aware that not everything you see online is completely true.
It might be helpful to think of it not just in black and white terms, but there's lots of different ways that a story might be misleading or inaccurate.
It might be spin.
And in all of these situations, it's helpful to step back and just ask yourself, is this likely to be true?
Does this feel right before you go on and share it on social media and pass that story along?
Oh, okay.
I got it.
You got to sit back, check yourself, make sure it feels right before you post it on social media.
Wow.
Not a mention of bias anywhere in this fine instructional video by the Beeb.
I just don't think it's that simple.
I think this is very harmful.
I don't think this is a good idea to teach it this way.
No, I agree.
I'm 100% with you on this.
It's a simplification.
It's not really a positive thing.
No.
Alright.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about the dog.
Really?
I avoided this story.
Well, I got the second part because it reminds me, I think we were dealing with a random number event.
Oh, okay.
Because the dog thing happened, and then the next day, another dog thing happened, and I suspect if United doesn't make some serious changes, I've always said this, if you get a speeding ticket, change all your habits, your driving habits, immediately.
Because otherwise, you're going to get another one, and then maybe a third one.
This is the way the world operates, it's the random number theory.
Because these things happen in bunches.
And so United didn't do anything, so they had this situation reoccur.
And so I want to play Dogs on United 1.
This is the ABC report.
Here at home tonight in new trouble for United Airlines.
Just 24 hours after apologizing for what happened to one family's dog on a plane, United now making headlines for yet another mistake, another dog supposed to be brought to Kansas City.
But where did that dog end up?
Here's ABC's Lindsey Davis now.
Tonight, new woes for United after it mistakenly put this dog Ergo on a 12-hour flight to Japan.
Kara Swindle was with her family flying from Oregon to Kansas City, but when she got to the cargo facility to pick up her German Shepherd, she was given a Great Dane instead.
He's probably so scared and freaked out.
And probably hurting, too, because he doesn't have his medicine now either.
She says the airline told her the dogs were accidentally put into the wrong travel kennels.
Ergo will now be flying back first class to Kansas tomorrow night.
Oh, brother.
I stopped it there.
What do you mean he's flying back first class?
He's in a kennel in the hold.
Do they have a special section in down there?
Well, I got a note from producer Bob who said, I just booked a business class ticket with Austrian Airlines.
The system online said there were five free seats.
I went to go select my seat.
Only two were available.
I call them up.
They say, yeah, the other seats are blocked for passengers with pets.
Even though they haven't booked yet, they have a number of business class seats that they book next to each other or in tandem for apparently a lot of passengers who travel with pets and want a separate seat for their pet.
Oh, God.
Let's just finish this report with dogs on United 2.
United's apology for this mistake comes after the tragic death of this puppy, Coquito, on a flight from Houston to New York on Monday.
He's a member of our family.
The family and other passengers said that the flight attendant demanded the puppy's carry-on case be moved from under the seat in front of them into the overhead bin.
We're like, it's a dog, it's a dog, and she's like, it doesn't matter, you still have to put it up there.
When the plane landed at LaGuardia after three hours, the Castanos discovered Coquito's body.
She took him out and opened the thing and then she got the dog and she was there.
Oh God.
United says their flight attendant, quote, did not hear or understand there was a dog in the bag and did not knowingly place the dog in the overhead bin.
Lindsay Davis with us live from LaGuardia tonight.
And Lindsay, United Airlines now announcing changes to make sure something like this doesn't happen again.
Exactly right, David.
As of April, they plan to start issuing bright-colored bag tags for customers who are traveling with an animal inside the cabin.
They say that that way, as soon as the flight attendant sees those tags, they're going to know there's an animal inside that bag.
We've also just heard from United, they say that they have fully refunded the passengers' tickets and pet fees.
It's not clear that that's going to be enough, David.
All right.
Lindsay Davis, thank you.
That was a French bulldog.
They're worth about a thousand bucks a piece, that dog.
So they're definitely getting their ticket back is not enough to say the least.
But this latest thing with United, this is the only reason I'm playing this story because I'm so irked by this, is the lying that they're starting to do now.
The stewardess says, oh, I didn't understand a word they said.
They couldn't speak English.
Let's go back and play this little girl whose dog it was.
Dogs on United ISO. We're like, it's a dog, it's a dog.
And she's like, it doesn't matter.
You still have to put it up there.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's bullshit.
Does that sound like somebody you can't understand what she's saying?
No, but...
I can't understand a word she's saying.
But what was interesting to me, Tina picked me up at the airport yesterday, and she said, oh, this dog story.
And I said, oh, hmm.
She said, well, you know, that's horrible.
They couldn't breathe up there.
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Stop.
Hold on a second.
The overhead bin, there's no reason, I mean, it's all sad and it's all messed up, but there's no reason the dog wouldn't be alive.
I think the dog just died of a heart attack, of fear, you know, being shut up in that space, but not any other reason.
No, that's not true.
The dog could have died under the seat.
French bulldog, I think the dog would have died under the seat.
French bulldogs genetically have a breathing problem and they commonly suffocate and die.
Just for no good reason?
Well, no, there's usually good reason.
They're shoved in an overhead.
Yeah, that's not good.
That's not good.
So I don't know why you're taking the side of the United people.
I'm not taking the side of the United people at all.
What I'm saying is the way the story is presented, the illusion was created that the dog suffocated because it was in the overhead bin.
He did.
My point was the dog probably would have died underneath the seat as well.
Probably.
Probably.
Well, I would assume they'd take him out once in a while.
I would also assume that during the flight they would open up the bin and take a look.
I mean, come on.
That question has not been asked or answered.
Why?
It's not a good story.
You tell me why.
It's the first thing I'd ask.
Would you take the dog down during the flight?
Why wouldn't you?
It's not a good story.
It's just not good.
Well, I would say this.
These people sounded to me like they had maybe never flown before and they don't know that you can go up and take stuff down during the flight.
Not everybody knows you can do that.
Not everyone's experienced.
Okay.
Well, I'm glad you brought this non-story up.
It's a story.
It's the callousness of the current...
State of service in this country, and the United Airlines is one of the worst at this right now.
They've, I think, overtaken American as a crappy carrier.
Still in second place, the Delta.
I had a good experience on the Delta.
Well, maybe things are changing.
Yeah.
I don't know.
How was your in and out of the country experience?
It was very good.
Going out of the Netherlands, I just checked my bag, and then I called my military guy, and they took me through the VIP center again.
And it worked.
Oh, yeah.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, it was really good.
Yeah.
They used to have this a long time ago.
They'd have a little question stand, so pre-boarding.
Before you board, there was a pre-boarding staging area.
We have to go and talk to an agent, and the agent says, you know, did you pack your bag yourself, etc., etc.
The same questions that were asked when I checked my bag, but okay.
They had that.
But as I said, the flight was almost empty, so it wasn't a hassle.
Arriving...
I've got to try this.
Next time Tina and I arrive on international...
I have a feeling that these...
So the way it is in Austin, we're building this international terminal, and the reason it had to be built specifically is for the 747s.
We didn't have any gateways or anything that fit them.
And this was a 767.
So you get off the plane.
There's this jetway that you walk for 10 minutes because you're essentially walking through a construction site.
You don't see it.
And then you go down the stairs and that's the very small international arrivals area which has the baggage claim right there and the six or seven different customs border patrol stands.
And these days you can do your immigration.
If you have the app, you can go to a kiosk on the left.
But then on the right is the global entry, which I paid $500 for, had to hold an interview, had to go to Dallas, all this bullcrap just to get that.
I think they're the same.
In fact, I don't think it makes any difference if you have global entry or not.
You never have to show your card.
You just scan your passport.
There's nothing on the ticket that rolls out that indicates a global entry number or a trusted traveler number.
It just recognizes your passport.
You're answering the same questions.
You know, no, I'm not bringing anything illegal in.
And then it prints it out with your picture, which is never of my face because it pretty much gets my Adam's apple each time, the camera.
I think that you can just put your regular passport in there.
I don't think you have to have a global entry.
I want someone to try it, and if someone doesn't do it before we travel, then we're going to try it.
Well, apparently you've already tried it because they say they never asked you for the global entry card.
Well, I don't know if somehow the global entry is in the database when it scans my passport.
It says, ah, he's good.
He's good to go.
I don't think so.
That's it.
That's exactly my point.
I don't think so.
I think it's a big bullcrap scam.
Well, we know it is because whenever I travel with Tina, we both get pre-check.
She does not have a trusted traveler number.
She has a very high FICO score.
Maybe that's part of it.
That's reason enough.
But when I travel alone with my trusted traveler number, with my global entry card, no, no pre-check.
The whole thing is sketchy.
It's very sketchy.
But it did go pretty quickly.
So that was, I have nothing to complain about this time.
Hmm.
All right.
Well, let's take a look at, uh, what we got, I do want to do another segment of the show besides the phrase from the Shays.
Okay.
And this stems from a progressive commercial.
I hate to promote it.
Are you in the insurance company?
Yeah, the insurance company, they have a series of commercials they do with different people.
They have the little gecko.
They used to have the caveman.
They're running about 10 parallel storylines.
You just mentioned three different insurance companies.
The gecko is for Geico.
The guy who appears is Allstate.
And this is apparently Progressive.
I'm talking about Jamie and Flo.
Yeah, Flo is with Progressive.
Yeah, so is Jamie.
Okay, but the other two are different companies.
Right, you're right.
There's Geico.
That's Geico I'm thinking about.
Yeah.
Anyway, I'm confused.
I don't know.
I don't have these companies.
But I like the new progressive one where they have these people.
They've only done two of them, but they do some ludicrous scene and then they kick over to the...
A plug at the end.
Right.
But the ludicrous scene is what I'm thinking about would be an interesting thing to do on the show because we have such a wide variety of demos that listen to the show.
And this is the progressive ad about becoming your parents.
Well, like most of you, I just bought a house.
Oh, very nice.
Now I'm turning into my dad.
I text in full sentences.
I refer to every child as chief.
This hat was free.
What am I supposed to do?
Not wear it?
Next thing you know, I'm telling strangers defense wins championships.
Well, it does.
Why is the door open?
Are we trying to air condition the whole neighborhood?
At least I bundled home and auto on an internet website, progressive.com.
Progressive can't save you from becoming your parents, but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto.
I mean, why would I replace this?
It's not broken.
It almost sounds like a pharma ad, really.
Well, the ad goes on with all these things.
It's what, you know, becoming your parents.
And I realize there's some funny memes involved with this, including the one...
About the shirt?
I mean, it's Get Off My Lawn is one of the classics, which isn't in there.
But it's like, I call every children, I mean, chief.
I mean, it really cracked me up because I don't do that, but I can imagine someone just some old fart saying, hey, chief.
You know, to every kid he ever meets.
And why should I get rid of this?
Reminds me of my phone.
I bitch and moan about why people get new phones when I have a good phone that's been, I've had it for five years.
Yeah, so what are you saying?
Well, my parents never had cell phones, so I can't say that I'm becoming my parents because my cell phone's so old.
But I think there's a bunch of these that would be nice to have a nice little list.
If anyone has any idea of something that they've decided, you know, wearing a cardigan or whatever stupid thing they're doing that reminds them of their parents, I'd like to document it.
And you feel that this is a meme that will be deployed within advertising to target the demo?
No, this is something...
No, I never said that.
What I said is that I'm amused by the meme.
Sure, sure, sure.
I'm just asking.
And I would like to...
It's like our phrase from the chaise meme, which we do occasionally.
I would like to get people to start thinking in these terms and give us some of these.
Because I realize when the woman says, I got this free hat, why wouldn't I wear it?
It's kind of old fogey-ish.
Very.
But I never thought about it until I saw this ad, how surrounded we are by these situations.
So give me some more examples that weren't in this ad.
Well, Get Off My Lawn is the main one, which is not in that ad.
The cardigan, they didn't talk about that, even though they were wearing funny clothes.
I don't know.
That's what I want to know.
I want to dig some of these up and see if we're employing them.
Do you do anything that reminds you of your parents?
Well, I think all new parents or all parents have opened their mouth at some point, directed towards the children, and your parent come out of you.
Your dad or your mom comes out.
But that's more like my mom would go, Adam Clark Curry!
And so that would be you're in trouble.
And so I would do that, Christina Valerie Curry!
You do that kind of stuff.
Right, but it doesn't necessarily have to be just about parenting.
For example, get off my lawn is not about parenting.
It's about other kids.
Baseball goes in the backyard.
If you hit it in the backyard, it's mine now, this kind of thing.
Or other kinds of grumpy old man stuff.
Yeah, you know, I think you're more suited to come up with those and to judge them as they come in.
No, I'm asking the audience because I'm not suited.
That's the point.
I don't remember except for Get Off My Lawn, which wasn't even a meme I ever used.
But when I started hearing the guy saying it calls every kid chief, which is the one that cracked me up.
Well, you know, I've been looking at the troll room and not a single idea has come through.
So I don't know if this is going to be...
Maybe nobody will come up with anything.
I thought another funny one in that bit was, what are we going to air condition the whole neighborhood?
Oh, yeah.
You're trying to cool down all of Austin.
I think my parents may have said that at one point.
Okay.
Okay.
It's just a thought.
Well, here's one.
If it's a fail, it's a fail.
Here's one the kids don't know anymore.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
No, that fell by the wayside before we started this show 10 years ago.
Yeah.
Words matter.
They do hurt.
It's horrible.
Yeah, well, we'll see.
I'm not sure if it's going to work very well.
Well, I just thought I'd throw it out.
Okay.
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
We had this poisoning in Russia, and this one smells really bad.
Not the poison itself, but the whole story, and we probably should just start off with a quick little statement here from Prime Minister Theresa May.
It is essential that we now come together with our allies to defend our security, to stand up for our values, and to send a clear message to those who would seek to undermine them.
This morning I chaired a further meeting of the National Security Council where we agreed immediate actions to dismantle the Russian espionage network in the UK, urgent work to develop new powers to tackle all forms of hostile state activity and to ensure that those seeking to carry out such activity cannot enter.
UK.
I just want to interrupt here.
Every country has spies in other countries and every country has about 90% of them read.
I know this because of my, my uncle, uh, 90% of them are registered as foreign agents, known agents.
This is very common.
That's not discussed often, but it's very common.
There's always, and that's what she's talking about here.
There's always a percentage of unregistered spooks and they know exactly who they are too, but they're just not registered.
A lot of cases, there'll be journalists.
Yep.
Most cases, I'd say they'd be journalists.
Well, I think most cases would be diplomats.
Yes, a civilian in the embassy.
Stuff like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And additional steps to suspend all planned high-level contacts between the UK and the Russian Federation.
Let me start with the immediate actions.
Mr Speaker, the House will recall that following the murder of Mr Litvinenko, the UK expelled four diplomats.
Under the Vienna Convention, the United Kingdom will now expel 23 Russian diplomats who have been identified as undeclared intelligence officers.
They have just one week to leave.
This will be the single biggest expulsion for over 30 years and it reflects the fact that this is not the first time that the Russian state has acted against our country.
Through these expulsions we will fundamentally degrade Russian intelligence capability in the UK for years to come.
And if they seek to rebuild it, we will prevent them from doing so.
So, this is all very political.
These are political moves.
I'm pretty sure that Theresa May would not do this without express written consent from our State Department.
Maybe that's part of why Tillerson is gone.
I'm not so sure.
But what puzzles me is the poison itself.
I have a little backgrounder.
Police today still searching for traces of a lethal chemical weapon for a trail to whoever poisoned ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal.
In Parliament, high drama.
Britain's Prime Minister pointing at Russia.
It is now clear that Mr Skripal and his daughter were poisoned with a military-grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia.
It's called Novichok, developed by the Soviets in the 1970s.
Used as a fine powder, it can cause suffocation and heart failure within a minute and is eight times more deadly than VX, the nerve agent used to kill Kim Jong-un's half-brother in a brazen airport attack.
The government has concluded that it is highly likely that Russia was responsible.
Russia denies it, though former KGB agent, now President Putin, told Russian viewers last night there's one thing he can't forgive.
Betrayal, he says.
Skripal worked for British intelligence.
Revenge, a clear motive.
May is demanding answers by tomorrow, weighing sanctions against Russia.
Skripal and his daughter are still fighting for their lives.
I looked into this Novichok.
This is what you haven't heard much about.
The detection laboratory in the UK. This is porting down.
We know a little bit about this outfit because that is where the chemical weapons that were supposedly used by Assad against his own people were sent when Obama had put the red line in the sand.
When they said, no, sorry, this is not at all something that would have come from Assad, that's when Obama pulled back and said, we're not going to do the whole red line thing.
They're a trusted source, I guess is what I'm saying.
Dr.
Robin Black, head of the detection laboratory, in 2016 wrote the following about this so-called Novichox, which is a funny name by itself.
In recent years, there's been much speculation that a fourth generation of nerve agents, Novichok's, in parentheses, newcomer, was developed in Russia.
You see, it's just kind of like a name for a whole bunch of possible new nerve agents.
The newcomers, the Novichok's, was developed in Russia beginning in the 70s as part of the foliant program with the aim of finding agents that would compromise defensive countermeasures.
Information on these compounds has been sparse in the public domain, mostly originating from a dissident Russian military chemist, Vilmisroshnev.
No independent confirmation of the structure or the properties of such compounds has been published.
So they may not know themselves exactly what it is, but yet the British government here is claiming that within a day they can identify this as a Novichok.
It had to be Russia.
The Organization for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, OPCW, we hear a lot about them.
It's a UN body.
They're the ones that keep claiming bullcrap about what's being used.
We actually have a listener in that organization.
Oh, we do?
Yeah.
We have the Scientific Advisory Board of the OPCW who said the following.
The Scientific Advisory Board emphasized the definition of toxic chemicals in the convention would cover all potential candidate chemicals that might be utilized as chemical weapons.
Regarding new toxic chemicals, not listed in the Annex on Chemicals, but which may nevertheless pose a risk to the convention, the SAB makes reference to Novichox.
The name Novichox is used...
In a publication of a former Soviet scientist who reported investigating a new class of nerve agents suitable for use as binary chemical weapons, the SAB states that it has insufficient information to comment on the existence or properties of Novichok.
And this is from 2013.
This is just not true.
They could not have analyzed this and come up with this quickly.
At least not according to openly available records and information from these organizations who kind of publish this stuff.
And if it's binary, it's definitely not true.
One should be...
Here, this is a Soviet scientist.
You see, the only real evidence of the Novichoks was this testimony from this ex-scientist, Miznyanov.
Here's what he actually wrote.
One should be mindful that the chemical components or precursors of A-232 or its binary version, Novichok-5, are ordinary organophosphates that can be made at commercial chemical companies that manufacture such products as fertilizers and pesticides.
Right.
So somewhere someone's talking some real bullcrap about this.
Well, I'm sure there's bullcrap flying.
I think a lot of this stems from a comment that Putin made at one of his press conferences, which I have, which is the Putin kick the bucket comment.
Kick the bucket?
I was arrested in Moscow in 2006, then sent to Britain in 2010 in a spy swap.
At the time, Vladimir Putin issued a chilling threat.
Traders will kick the bucket, trust me, he said.
Okay.
Now...
The problem I have with this, I don't have a Russian confirmation that that's what he said.
Is there actually a term, kick the bucket, in Russian?
That was the...
Direct translation?
I doubt it.
It's probably just some sort of what it means, whatever he said.
There may be a phrase he used.
I don't know.
Maybe a Russian listener can tell as her producer.
But it seems to me, if I'm not mistaken, yeah, traders will kick the bucket But if you do a spy swap, in other words, we give you one of the guys that you really want, and we want one of these guys back, the guy that you have in prison, that's supposed to be the end of it.
You can't do the spy swap and then shoot the guy that they gave away back in the back of the head as he's entering the other side.
I mean, it's just not the way the game is played.
That's not how you roll.
That's not how spike works.
You can just shoot the guy that they gave the Russians, too, if you're going to play that game.
So there's something very fishy about this whole thing.
I agree with you.
And the Novacek is just one element of many screwy aspects to it.
Of course, we all should know better.
This is just another diversionary tactic.
We're back now with the new twists in the plot to poison a Russian ex-spy and his daughter.
British Prime Minister Theresa May today said it's highly likely Russia was behind the apparent assassination attempt.
Now the two countries could be on the brink of a full-blown diplomatic crisis.
NBC's Bill Neely has the latest.
Police today still searching for traces of a lethal chemical weapon for a trail to whoever poisoned ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal.
In Parliament, high drama.
Britain's Prime Minister pointing at Russia.
It is now clear that Mr Skripal and his daughter were poisoned with a military-grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia.
It's called Novichok, developed by the Soviets in the 1970s.
Is this the same clip?
Is this the same damn clip?
It's not completely, because I have a little...
The reason for this clip is the kicker at the end that you don't have.
This is your clip?
Well, if you're playing the clip that I think you're playing.
No, this is my clip.
I don't know.
Well, screw it.
Well, then, my clip is pretty...
I think it's pretty much...
Mine's Russian expelled over attempted murder.
Okay.
I'm going to play yours.
I have no idea what mine is all about.
Speaking to a hushed parliament, Prime Minister Theresa May spoke with an icy fury.
We will not tolerate...
Icy fury?
Woo!
Yeah.
No.
No.
Is that her best icy fury?
She gotta do better.
Speaking to a hushed parliament, Prime Minister Theresa May spoke with an icy fury.
We will not tolerate the threat to life of British people and others on British soil from the Russian government.
British investigators say a military-grade nerve agent developed by Russia was used in the attack on a former Russian spy and his daughter, a conclusion now backed by the U.S. intelligence community.
In retaliation, May said Britain will expel 23 Russian diplomats, giving them one week to leave, suspend all high-level contacts with Russia, take unspecified clandestine measures, and she added the royal family will boycott the Soccer World Cup in Russia this summer.
The expulsion of diplomats, the biggest here since the Cold War, and echoing President Obama's kicking out 35 Russian diplomats from the U.S. in retaliation for Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
Later, dramatic scenes at the U.N. Security Council, Russia in the dock, Britain asking the world to stand with them, and U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley backing the Brits, urging the world to act.
If we don't take immediate concrete measures to address this now, Salisbury will not be the last place we see chemical weapons used.
They could be used here in New York, or in cities of any country that sits on this council.
Have they linked this to North Korea yet?
Chemical weapons.
She changes it.
Oh, yeah.
How about this?
It's going to be used in New York any minute.
Any minute now.
Since it's binary, you should probably explain what binary means.
Binary means it only works in conjunction with a second agent.
So if this Novichok's is...
They weren't all binary, but they did specifically say there was the best ones are binary.
Well, how about this?
How about if all of their spies have one half of the binary already in their system?
Yeah.
And all you need is some very common, like, baking soda or some common other agent that you can get.
Yeah, that would be ideal.
That would be perfect.
So that way you just, you know, you can kill anybody you need easily.
Yeah, a guy has an Alka-Seltzer, he drops dead.
Who still uses Alka-Seltzer?
There you go.
Hey, there you go.
There you go.
Just like Alka-Seltzer?
What's that, Dad?
I'm going to have a Bromo.
A Bromo?
Yeah.
I have a headache.
I need some headache powder.
And there's another one for you.
They still make powders down in the South.
Of course they still make it.
They still make it, I'm sure.
Powders.
When I go down to the South, sometimes if I see Goody's powders, it's aspirin powder, just what it is.
I usually buy them because it's like, well, look at this, powders.
So you can snort it.
Perfect.
Oh, God, no.
Rip the hell out of your nose.
But it's obvious.
We just want to blame the Russians about anything and everything.
Any election, any controversy, you know, cyber attack.
I'm going to go back to my original point, which was when you do a deal and you exchange prisoners, that's supposed to be the end of it as far as I know.
So the Russians shouldn't be killing this guy.
No, I don't think they did.
Well, it kind of backs up the thesis.
And I'm not sure that Putin's talked about the guys kicking the bucket.
Anyway, I'd like to have somebody translate that clip.
Yeah, somebody can translate that for us.
Well, the latest that the Russians are blamed for, of course, through their incredibly well-programmed bots and their outstanding command of the English language, they've been able to convince throngs and throws of people of the dangers of genetically modified food.
GMOs are divisive.
And U.S. coverage is split pro and con.
But in 2016, Russian state websites RT and Sputnik swamped the U.S. internet with entirely anti-GMO coverage.
Swamped!
Hold on.
Swamped the U.S. internet.
I just love it.
I love it.
Is that possible to just swamp the U.S. Internet only, not any other parts of the U.S.? Yeah, I did it yesterday.
Western state websites RT and Sputnik swamped the U.S. Internet with entirely anti-GMO coverage.
I think these are important things to listen to and to talk about because this is news coverage.
This is NPR. This is...
That's editorializing to an extreme.
This according to new analysis from Iowa State researchers.
Co-author Carolyn Lawrence-Dill found GMOs are bad articles, and she found clickbait to lure people already in a bad online mood.
You could find something that's on the topic of abortion or TPP, and then you would get all the way to the bottom of the article, and there would be some link to, are you interested in related information on GMOs?
It all suggests a coordinated campaign.
So smart, these Russians, they've figured out clickbait.
His co-researcher, Sean Doris.
So why would Moscow taint GMO food from America?
He says it could steer global consumers to non-GMO crops from Russia.
Agriculture is a really important sector in the Russian economy.
It's the number two industry in their economy.
It's a growing area.
It's an area that they're out marketing and trying to differentiate themselves.
In general, Russian disinformation campaigns try to sow discord, says NYU's Joshua Tucker.
He studies Russia and social media.
And he sees signs that Sputnik and RT headlines try to influence not just humans, but also search engines.
Search engine optimization would be a concerted strategy to try to make it when you go to search for GMOs, you actually see something from RT or you see something from Sputnik.
By the way, that paper on GMOs and disinformation, it's called Sowing the Seeds of Skepticism.
Ooh!
Sowing the...
I'm reliably informed it's called Sowing the Seeds of Skepticism.
I mean...
What is the point of this?
This is bullcrap.
What's their anti-GMO campaign got to do with their own farmers?
They have to farm more than before because they can't import the apples from Poland and all this other crap from all over the EU because of all these sanctions.
So the Russians have turned in inward and have decided to, you know, crank up their agriculture.
They got plenty of land.
And one of the things that benefits apparently are these small cheese producers in Russia who have always just struggled because they have to compete with the European cheeses.
And now you can't get the good cheese.
So they're making their own cheese.
And it's supposed to be a big boon to the Russian farmers because they get to, you know, get a market for their cheese.
All right.
Things we don't want you eating GMO cheese.
Right.
But there's no GMO cheese to eat.
So there's something...
There's a big missing piece to this article.
Yeah, well, the missing piece is clickbait is Russian propaganda.
Hello, BuzzFeed!
You're a Russian outfit.
Apparently, they must be.
Nah, it's just you can blame anything on Russia now.
It's fantastic.
Well, I blame you on Russia.
That was totally uncalled for.
I don't know what it means.
Um...
Anything that's uncomfortable and not handy, like daylight savings time.
Let's blame it on Russia.
It's Russia's fault.
Bringing forward means more daylight, but not much else to like.
Studies show your risk for a heart attack increases by 10% on the Monday and Tuesday following daylight saving time.
There's more, Sally Ann.
Workplace injuries also start going up, along with risk for a stroke.
Chances of getting in a car accident rise by 17%, which I think speaks to this idea of sleep.
People do need sleep, but it's important, so we kind of have to adjust here now that we're...
You know what I think?
There you go.
You don't need Russians.
Our own government's out to kill us.
Daylight saving time.
I think that's the reason I'm a little...
Bad with my thoughts today.
It makes a total difference.
Well, that's because I'm off an hour.
The socialist news site we talked about earlier in the show, and I kind of lost my train of thought.
And you liked those articles because it was interesting about the Democrats being CIA agents.
The thought that I lost, which I recovered a little while ago, was that why are we reading this in a socialist news site?
It seems to me that this would be mainstream media stuff.
But no, no.
Yeah, we have to get, what was difficult about that three-parter is it really didn't have, you know, you want a list.
Like, okay, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this lady.
Oh, they don't know how to box out.
No, they're so, yeah, socialists, what are they going to, what do they know?
They can't do a bulleted list.
Too complicated.
How do I get this bullet thing to come up here on the word processor?
The word processor.
On WordPerfect 4.3.
Yeah, WordPerfect.
We had a couple of big pharma stories.
I don't think we actually covered this one, but I kind of just want to play this quickie clip.
We know this, obviously.
The man who promotes himself as the pharma bro has been sentenced to prison for securities fraud.
Pharmaceutical executive Martin Screlli was sentenced to seven years in prison after he was convicted last year of lying to investigators in two failed hedge funds.
A tearful Screlli told the judge that he made many mistakes and apologizes to investors.
And what's interesting about this is when you look at the face bag, people posting articles about it like, oh, I was crying like a little bitch.
Ha!
Big pharma fuckers!
But it had nothing to do with that.
It was an investor defraudment.
It was a scam.
He wasn't thrown in jail because he jacked up the price of the medication.
No, not at all.
Because that's un-American.
We can't throw people in jail for that.
No, jacking up the price is good.
But the big pharma story, which is also a tech story, is about Theranos.
Theranos is the...
Yeah, the one with the cutie pie that was running it.
I think she was having sex with...
You mean the second coming of Steve Jobs?
Do you remember that?
Wasn't she on Newsweek or something?
She had her black turtleneck, and she's like, the new Steve Jobs.
She's revolutionizing the blood analysis process.
Yeah, I can think of two or three guys I probably...
Seemingly, I wasn't there.
She was throwing herself around a little bit.
Oh, you mean she was throwing herself...
Is that an accusation or just an observation?
No, I'm just saying.
Well, she had quite the board.
Everybody was on the board.
Including, it was Powell, and they had all kinds of military guys.
It was a huge board of directors.
Every politician who wants to be a venture capitalist was on the board.
Yeah, well, I hope they all get burned.
She certainly is.
Breaking news on Theranos.
The SEC is charging Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes and former Theranos president Sunny Balwani with raising more than $700 million from investors through an elaborate years-long fraud.
They're saying that they exaggerated or made false statements about the company's technology, business, and financial performance.
Theranos and Holmes, the SEC says, have agreed to resolve the charges against them.
They're stripping her of control of the company.
She is going to pay a $500,000 penalty and be barred from serving as an officer or director of a public company for 10 years, as well as returning the remaining 18.9 million shares the SEC says that she obtained during the fraud and relinquished her voting control of Theranos.
This, of course, after the scandals that unfolded over a year or so Where Theranos essentially made what they say were misleading claims about their blood testing capabilities.
So Elizabeth Holmes here in a settlement with the SEC. The SEC saying that neither Theranos nor Holmes admitted nor denied the allegations in the SEC's complaint.
As for former President Sonny Balwani, the SEC says it'll litigate its claims against him in federal district court, guys.
It is, if nothing else, just a remarkable turn, just underscoring this downfall, Meg, of somebody who was once mentioned in the same breath as Steve Jobs.
Remember, it was a magazine that put Elizabeth Holmes on the cover asking that very question as to whether she was the next Steve Jobs.
That's right.
Scott, she was this captivating figure, a young woman in Silicon Valley, dropped out of Stanford, often wore that signature black turtleneck where a lot of those comparisons were made.
At one point, I think the valuation of Theranos was pegged around $9 billion, and she owned, I think, about half of that.
So after all of this unfolded, with all that remarkable reporting from John Kerry with The Wall Street Journal, uncovering a lot of these sort of false and misleading claims the company has been making, really just an amazing downfall of a company to watch.
Henry Kissinger, George Shultz, former Senator Sam Nunn, Bill Frist, Navy Admiral Gary Roughead, Mattis, Mad Dog Mattis on the board.
Mad Dog Mattis.
Former CEO of Wells Fargo, Bechtel.
This was a real who's who.
Yeah, it was part of the scam.
But aren't board members meant to be held accountable as well?
On public companies.
Well, what does the SEC have to do with it if they're not a public company, then?
SEC is about securities.
Securities don't have to be public or private.
Okay, gotcha.
Securities fraud.
Gotcha.
Yeah, well, some of them could be assigned blame, but she was the fraudster.
She's not going to even...
I doubt if she'll do more than...
I doubt if she even goes to prison.
No, she's not going to go.
She just has to pay a fine.
No prison.
That was very clear in the report.
And her fine is only half a million bucks.
Are you kidding me?
Six hundred grand, yes.
Or six hundred?
Yeah.
For raising seven hundred million.
I mean, come on.
She defrauded the investors of seven hundred million and she has to pay that?
This whole thing is...
But here's what I want you to pay attention to.
We just played two clips.
We have lots of coverage of the Pharma Bro.
Very little coverage of this actual huge massive scam.
This was a real big one.
A billion dollars.
The Pharma Bro is a Pharma Bro.
Pharma, Pharma, Pharma is different than Silicon Valley.
That's right.
Which is a protected area.
Protected class.
Protected class.
It's a protected class.
It's exactly the right term.
Protected class.
Protected everything.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll keep an eye on it.
It's not going to mean much.
Gary Johnson had another moment.
Uh-oh.
Well, as you mentioned Gary Johnson, you've got to let me read a note just before we take a break.
Okay.
Because it is connected.
Go.
Oh, I thought...
Go to Johnson, then I read the note.
Oh, okay.
Johnson first, then the note.
This is from Reason TV, an interview about how things went horribly wrong with him.
Of course, we remember when he didn't know what Aleppo...
What's an Aleppo?
Wasn't that his actual response?
What's an Aleppo?
I've got an Aleppo on my knee here.
I've got this horrible Aleppo going on.
Obviously, people remember the Aleppo moment.
Sure.
How do you feel about it?
Well, it was going to happen.
I would hypothesize that it happened to Trump about 150 times.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, okay, it happens to me.
Well, what do you do when something like that happens?
Well, they each had a billion eight.
So when it came to Goffs, they had the firepower to come back.
By the way, can I just ask, you mean Gaffs, right?
Not Goffs.
Well, thank you.
He said golf.
How can he not even know what a gaffe is that he says golf?
Wow.
We escaped a bullet on that one.
Yeah.
It was all a facade.
That is the oddest thing.
What other common words does Gary Johnson not know?
Man.
A golf.
A golf.
Okay.
Hey, man, I'm big.
What's the golf?
Poor guy.
Pro-marijuana gets, you know.
Okay, so we got a marijuana donor here.
No, wait.
You're going to read a note about Gary Johnson?
What do you think I'm talking about?
Oh, do I open the segment or what?
Do we have a marijuana donor segment?
No.
Do I open the donation segment?
You want to read a note?
No, no.
You open the donation segment after this.
Okay.
Hold on.
Just for the...
Okay.
So I'll go back and I'll edit this whole thing.
Don't edit anything.
And here's how...
Okay.
That's right.
All right.
Back off.
What an idiot!
He didn't know it was gaff instead of goff.
That was stupid.
Unbelievable.
So the guy suggests, and I went to get this, before I read this note, he says, if possible, play a bong rip first to get their attention.
So I just so happens to have a bong, I went through the internet, and I want to say a couple of things.
If you go to Bing videos, there's also a whole slew of videos that you don't see anyplace else.
They're not on YouTube.
They're Bing.
Again, Bing.
But if you go to Bing videos and you type in girl bong rip, it's just like an eye-opener.
There's all these millennials.
I guess they're millennials, but there's all these young girls that are just...
Take it in so...
I mean, it's like they have vaporizers with the big...
Oh, yeah.
Oh, the vapes are great.
You know, I always have a couple of bong hits on hand, but we can listen to yours.
Yeah, there's a bong rip.
Here's my medium bong hit.
*sad music* And here's the short one.
Nice.
We got more than enough.
Although you call them bong hit, the real term is bong rip.
I did look into it.
And so I'm glad that you're out of touch with that because, to be honest about it, the whole thing was...
When I looked at all these videos, I was disgusted.
Yeah.
There doesn't need to be people smoking so much.
I mean, we went out of our way to try to get this stuff legalized, but I don't think you have to go on video and brag about, you know, okay, it just became a pet peeve.
And here, this note kind of reconfirms my complaint.
Dear Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, Adam Kiernan is the writer.
I last donated my own Ides of March donation of $315.44 a few years ago, along with my previous donations of $50 and $55.14, all added up to $420, get it?
$58.
Striking on this coincidence, $420, I decided I would donate $420 next time I gave.
Alas, I have not been able to afford this level ever again.
Now I have fallen into douchedom.
Give him a douchebag.
Okay.
Douchebag!
So fellow producers, don't wait till you can afford that illustrious executive producer spot.
Donate today.
May I suggest $54.20 as the I spend too much on weed to be an executive producer donation.
Okay.
Douchebag all the potheads with money for weed, but not enough for the B-P-I-T-U. Douchebags!
I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
So now I'm concerned about the future of the show.
I am too.
I'm very concerned.
The guy makes a good point.
Shane Harbeck, meanwhile, is apparently sober.
$133.33 from Aurora, Oregon.
And he writes, I beg of you a de-douching.
I was called out in a recent episode and can't live with myself.
We'll see what happens with all the potheads who got called out.
On today's show.
Paul Darling, $100.
Sir Media Faller?
Faller?
Faller.
Sir Media Faller, I think.
Half caps.
$100 from Mississauga, Ontario.
Stephen Fitzpatrick in Heber Springs, Arkansas, $77.77.
Kyle Mann, $64.
Harvey M. Smith in Tucson, Arizona, $60.
Christopher Dector, 5678, Sir Pain in the Ass, our buddy in Richmond, Virginia, seems to be giving every other week.
5-4-3-2.
Adam Kiernan in Bidford, Maine.
We just read his note.
I just, I last donated on the, oh that's right.
That's funny, I guess the note was put in the donation.
Mike Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Ryan Marks.
I'm sorry, Mike was $52.80.
Ryan Marks is $50.36.
And now we have $50 donors, including a note I do want to read.
Derek Neese.
Robert Weber in San Jose.
Mickey Keck.
And do we have Sarah Keck?
Yes, we do.
Her 15th birthday today.
Good.
Sir...
Sorry, Dame.
Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida.
Brandon Savoy in Port Orchard, Washington.
John Haller in Missoula, Montana.
Trevor Hoagland in Portland, Oregon.
Matthew Hardy in Gold Coast, Queensland.
Chris...
Oh, Sir Chris Slowinski.
Hey, Chris.
In Sherwood Park, Alberta.
Rick Ellison in...
Parts Unknown, he mentions that Stephen Hawking died the day before Pi.
And it was the day Albert Einstein was born, apparently.
Oh, wow.
Anonymous in Vancouver.
And we have a note from Anonymous in Vancouver I have to read.
This was very interesting to me because when I hear Anonymous, and this is my old straight white male privilege speaking, I realized that I always think it's a guy.
Yes, it's a woman.
And she's going to be damed, I hope she's on the list, as Old Dame.
That's all she wants.
Alright, is that her entire note?
No, I got a whole note.
She says you don't need to read it, but I'm going to read it anyway.
Did you not have the same thing?
Did you not say, oh, it's a woman, so that was surprising to you?
No, I saw this.
Actually, I had her name, and then I read her note, and I noticed that she wanted to be anonymous.
Ah, okay.
You got the info backwards.
Got it.
Yeah, so I didn't get to have that experience.
But I know exactly what you mean.
Yeah.
No jingles, no karma.
Keep my name anonymous.
All I want for Chris is my very own secret decoder ring.
It was not for the ring.
I do not think I'd even bother with the dame thing, but I need to be a dame, and it'll be old dame.
Now that this amounts to the title, she got all the things.
She says, I tripped across the show a little over a year ago in one of those lovely moments in life that makes a huge difference to how you manage your stress.
I only kick puppies once a week now, and as for throwing things at my employees, well, it's down to only once, perhaps twice a day.
They thank you, by the way.
I'm grateful for the amount of work you do, and all of the amount of work you do, insight and intelligence.
She goes on, I think, from the bottom of the pathway, very Christmas.
She wants to meet up in Vancouver.
Where's the note part I wanted?
I'm without a clue.
She says that she has to remain anonymous because of...
Damn it.
It's a long note, so I'm trying to find it where she said this.
No, it's just okay.
Take your time.
It was a short donation segment anyway, so...
Yeah, very short.
Maybe a little theremin will help?
Yes, get me some theremin and I'll get this out a little.
All right, well, I can't find it.
Her complaint was that she's Canadian and she doesn't trust Little Trudeau, as she calls him.
Little Trudeau?
Nice.
And thinks that keeping her name anonymous is the way to go in the new Canada.
Well, she may have a good point.
I failed to mention that in the new UK, Gitmo Nation East, part of what Theresa May said there was, you know, we're not going to allow people to come into our country who are going to cause a ruckus, but in the wording of it, it says, who are suspected.
So there's a lot of...
Well, the Canadian woman that...
In contact with a politician in Vancouver, Lauren Southern, tried to meet up with some people in the UK and they blocked her entry and told her to get the hell out.
Yeah.
What's the guy's name?
Tommy?
What's his face?
Yeah, Tommy.
What's up with that guy?
One of our producers in Israel is a big fan and he's always getting called out on Twitter for, you know, that guy, Tommy, what's his last name?
There's some Clayton or something.
Yeah, he's a horrible...
Tommy Robinson.
Like, he's some kind of horrible guy.
And I'm conflicted.
I have never really looked into the guy.
He doesn't...
Every video I've seen is not clippable.
It's uninteresting.
But for some reason, this guy's really controversial, and I'm not sure why.
I'm sure our Sir Jono or...
He's part of a clique of people in the UK who...
They excoriate the Muslims.
There is an anti-Muslim group.
And Lauren was going to go down and, I guess, have dinner with them or meet up with them or go to one of their events or something.
Yeah, interview them.
And because it was his name involved in the deal, they said, no, you can't come in.
You can't come into the UK, you Canadian, you horrible Canadian.
Duh.
Wow, it's part of the same kingdom, even.
Yes, I know.
This is ludicrous.
So they've gone off the deep end there.
I mean, I just wish that they would have banned Trump when they had the chance, because that would have been something to talk about.
This is all low-level stuff.
It's just no good.
We need higher-level people getting banned.
Well, we want to thank these folks.
These are the people that helped produce the show, 1016.
And we obviously are very open and susceptible to keeping people anonymous.
For reasons of non-entry into the UK. And that's everybody under the $50 on our list.
I don't have to say a suspect.
Yeah, they can float in, though.
We appreciate all the help that you gave us.
A very fast segment today, but we have another one coming up on Sunday.
Remember us there at...
And a jobs karma.
Lots of people want it.
Lots of people need it.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma. You've got karma.
Danny Spell celebrates today, March 15th.
Ryan Marks has happy birthday to his brother, Robert Morrison, also celebrating today.
Mickey Keck, happy birthday to her daughter, Sarah, celebrating today on the 15th, turning 15.
And Rick Ellison has celebrated his birthday yesterday on March 14th.
Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
Happy birthday, yeah!
Before I continue with the nightings, I did have one PR moment.
I want to thank producer Ned Jeffrey, who registered the domain name anycollusion.com.
And that is now forwarding to the No Agenda Show.
We need to get that clip ISOed, Any Collusion.
Yeah, any collusion.
You weren't even listening, were you?
No, you said you got the new.com domain, which links to know what you're in the show, and you want to make sure that we list or get an ISO of any collusion clip, which I've had twice in two clips so far.
Yes.
And you want me to pull it out.
I heard every word you said.
Okay, good.
Pull it out then.
Here's mine.
I'm going to pull out my sword.
Yes.
Oh, it's so big.
Tim Lang and Madame Anonymous, come on up here to the podium next to the lectern.
Thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
That puts you here at the table with our, that's the round table with our No Agenda Knights and Dames, and I'm very, very proud to pronounce the cake.
Welcome to my show!
Take that all over to knowagendanation.com slash rings.
Eric DeShill will be there to take your measurements, and we'll get that off to you as soon as possible.
Dame Old Dame, specific Dame Old Dame, I guess she is.
Dame Old Dame, right?
I guess.
Because if it was he, it would be Sir Old Him.
Sir.
Old Dame.
We'll leave it at Old Dame.
Here's the note that I was thinking.
You got it.
Good.
I would appreciate keeping things anonymous for reasons that stink, but unfortunately in Scandinavia, they are what they are for the moment, and we must tiptoe around tiny Justin and his stupidity for a while longer.
When are there elections?
I don't know.
It's a parliament system.
It could be any time.
That's true.
That's true.
In our vaccine coverage, someone sent me a fun little clip of Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden.
And this is about HPV and indirectly about the horrible vaccine Gardasil.
And we're not anti-vaxxers, but Gardasil is definitely a scam and it seems to be hurting girls in particular.
There's not enough, really not enough data to even show that it's effective at all.
And they want boys to take it, and really, even if you're five years old, you should have this.
Get ready.
Get ready for your unprotected sex, kids.
That's what it's all about.
Bruce Dickinson in 2015 was talking about his bout of throat and tongue cancer that happened while he was making an album, and he said it really kind of felt like a lump in his throat, and then he finished the album, went to see the doctor, and was like, oh, crap, you know, you got...
Throat cancer, and luckily he's okay.
But he had a very opinionated answer to the question about men getting this from cunnilingus, which is what we've been told by, there you go, there's that fake news story that we love so much, Michael Douglas, who made a joke.
About his throat cancer.
He later admitted it was a joke, but yet it's now in every article about HPV, it's like boys have to get the shot because, oh, look, Michael Douglas had throat cancer from cunnilingus.
As a time traveler, this is very disturbing.
So here he is.
He makes a good observation.
And since I've had the treatment, I mean, I've met probably half a dozen guys my age or younger, non-smoking, you know, not like abusing themselves or anything else like that, who all had this cancer.
So it is really a men's health issue.
Is it from given oral sex?
I mean, there was like a speculation that that's because women have that HPV. Like Michael Douglas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, because he made an unfortunate comment about whatever it was he said, you know.
And everybody went, you know.
But in actual fact, the thing about the HPV virus is that...
People don't know a great deal about it.
Yes, of course, it can be transmitted, you know, sexually and things like that.
But for example, and I don't mean to be, you know, flippant or anything, but you would expect, therefore, that lesbians would have an equally high incidence of it.
No, their incidence is 25% less.
Good point.
Wow.
Right?
Yes, that's a very good point that I never heard.
I never heard that.
I'm going to give you a borderline clip for that that was so valuable.
Well, thank you very much.
Unexpected.
Yeah, I'm sure it was.
But it is actually a little scarier when you think that, hey, wait a minute, why is this particular cancer getting higher in men?
Throat cancer.
And is it because of a, well, he says the cancer is, it is from HPV, but why then?
Why are we getting in our throat?
I mean, if we're even, you would think that, well, who knows?
I don't know the ratio of cunnilingus, lesbians to the same sex.
What's the ratio of people that actually have the throat cancer?
I think it's pretty low.
Oh, it's all very low.
Yeah, very low.
Again, we just don't know enough about it.
We don't know anything.
We don't know anything.
Nothing.
We don't know nothing, man.
Nothing at all.
I had a...
We should have done this earlier.
I had a little follow-up about sexual harassment.
There was a very long NPR interview, which is linked to it in the show notes at nasownotes.com, about male sexual harassment, men being harassed by women in the workplace.
And out of that, it didn't come...
Not a lot that came out of it regarding men, but...
The California laws on sexual harassment are a lot more stringent than you think they would be.
And here's a lawyer, a California-based lawyer, who explains this in this piece.
What is the difference between what someone might perceive as sexual harassment versus what is legally sexual harassment?
So in California, sexual harassment can be two things.
One is quid pro quo, which is sexual favors for advancement, let's say.
The other, sexual harassment, has to be severe or pervasive.
Severe meaning very bad, pervasive meaning happening all the time.
Maybe a pat on the butt to most people would be sexual harassment.
In California, that's not necessarily sexual harassment.
Touching somebody's breast even is not always considered sexual harassment because it's not severe enough or it's not happening on a consistent basis.
A lot of times, stray comments are not considered sexual harassment.
So if somebody says, you know, you have a nice body or, you know, I'd love to have sex with you, it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be sexual harassment.
There has to be a pattern there.
So, if a pat on the butt may not be sexual harassment, how many times does somebody have to pat you on the butt before it actually is?
Maybe in certain jurisdictions, a pat on the butt would be severe enough.
Here in California, just one single instance like that typically is not going to be.
So if it was two times, three times, how many times?
There is no magic number.
It's just a pattern of behavior.
I found that to be pretty interesting, the way it's being presented.
You just say, hey, your hair looks nice today, and boom!
Sexual harassment.
Yeah, you can.
That can happen.
If you took that course that you never took because you were irresponsible at Mevio, which I did take because I'm responsible, you would know all this because the course, you're probably better off not taking it because the course would have made your hair stand on end.
But this is a lawyer saying that that kind of behavior is not sexual harassment.
I agree with him, but you go around and look at what did Franken really do.
Well, exactly.
This is my point.
I think Franken got railroaded.
There's no legal case against a lot of these accusations.
It has to be a pattern.
So there's a lot of patterns, for sure.
There's a lot of cases that are real.
But yeah, I mean, was Franken a pattern?
Is it a pattern every day, every week, every month?
He's not working with this woman all the time, the one that he harassed or took the picture of.
And he wasn't her supervisor.
No quid pro quo.
Right.
Supervisor's the real problem.
Yeah.
And, yeah, he was just railroaded by the women.
And they put a woman in his place.
I thought it was fantastic.
That's great.
That's well done.
Well done.
Suckered.
In the rest of this piece, you know, why is there not a lot known about men being harassed?
Typically, men have sex with superiors in the workplace, boss, etc., because they feel pressured into it.
Yeah, it happens a lot, apparently.
It does happen a lot, according to this lawyer.
And the only other thing I took away from it, which I clipped here, is the process.
So, of course, for a man to say, oh...
I'm being sexually harassed.
It's embarrassing.
You get pestered by your co-workers.
But there's one piece of advice he has which is very important.
What steps can companies take to make sure there's an environment where men can feel comfortable coming forward with concerns about sexual harassment?
I think the most important thing is proper training.
People need to know that jokes, innuendos, even straight comments can sometimes be harassing or discriminatory.
Second, managers need to know how to handle it.
They're supposed to investigate.
A lot of employees are under the misguided belief that human resources is their friend.
Human resources is there to protect the company.
It's critical that you document everything.
And you want to fax, email, or certify mail that to the HR department.
Because a lot of employers will say, you know, they never complained, therefore we had no obligation to do anything because we didn't know about it.
And how can we, as a society, address this stigma that men feel like they will be embarrassed or ashamed if they pursue these actions?
The more men that come forward, the easier it will be for other men.
HR is not your friend, for men or for women.
No.
I agree.
It's exactly the wrong place to go.
We need an ombudsman, an ombudsperson.
The sexual harassment, of course, we didn't bring it up, I was expecting you to, about the women over men, is that what was going on under...
Department of Homeland Security.
Yeah, Homeland Security had this issue.
It was Janet Napolitano.
Yeah.
It was a huge problem.
Yeah, they were putting men in the bathroom with their desks.
You stupid man.
And a good example, I think, of this type of thing, even though it was made as a comedy, is the 40-year-old virgin movie where Jane Lynch, who's a very funny comedic actress who can do this kind of role, played someone sexually harassing the who's a very funny comedic actress who can do this kind Right.
You know, in the workplace.
Yeah.
And that was very funny.
It was very funny.
And that's the way when it comes to women harassing men, it's considered a joke.
Right.
You know, I mean, I know part of the system is that you can see the guy, oh, she's fortunate to have sex.
What's wrong with that?
Exactly.
It's so unfair, John.
It's just so unfair.
There's something weird going on in the European Union over there at Starfleet Command.
Yeah.
I don't have a clip of it yet.
This is kind of relatively new, but a lot of people are starting to ask questions about it.
So you have Junker, Junker the Drunker.
He runs the European Commission.
His assistant, basically, they call it an aide, but his assistant, Martin Selmayer, has just been appointed the guy who runs the whole European Commission.
There's a path you're supposed to take.
You have to be at least Deputy Commission Director General or something like that.
And this guy is apparently a real douchebag.
His nickname is The Monster because he's such a hard ass.
I guess, you know, keeping people away from Junker when he's drunker.
And now he's just been promoted into the new Secretary General.
This is corruption.
Yes.
Yes.
But again, I couldn't even find a clip about it.
There's no outrage.
It's just now they're just appointing their aides.
They're buddies.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
They're buddies.
But that's weird.
I don't understand.
It's weird if you're supposed to do it a specific way and they're not doing it right.
Yeah, well, I haven't looked up the actual documents for the process, but I've read enough about it that it seems like you have to go through some steps before you get that job.
But maybe, what are the powers of the Secretary General?
Maybe he can just appoint whatever he wants.
Maybe he really is running the empire.
Could be.
What's that?
Angela was, but you never know.
Uh...
So they cleaned up the homeless encampment down in Orange County that we've talked about maybe a little bit.
The mile-long one?
The mile-long one.
The big one.
The monster.
I think it's because it got so much publicity, bad publicity, from all the news networks and the different YouTubers that drove through it on their bicycles.
I mean, this was along one of the rivers, dried rivers down there.
A homeless encampment of Tent City that was something like a mile long.
It took forever to go from one end to the other.
And so Orange County, because of the publicity, I think it did deport these bastards a disservice.
Now they're going to tear the thing up.
They're going to pull out.
Hundreds of homeless people are forced out of a Southern California park.
Advocates say they're victims of the statewide housing crisis.
As Jamie Yukus reports from Anaheim, some of them had been there more than a decade.
This is moving day for John.
So what kind of stuff do you have to move out of here?
Everything.
His home is a tent along the Santa Ana riverbed, not far from Disneyland.
When you heard that everybody was getting evicted, what went through your mind?
Where am I going to go now?
An Orange County judge has said the encampment must go.
You can see people are still packing up at the very last minute and the sheriff's office says when they tell people it's time to go, that's it.
They're not even giving people an extra 15 minutes because in their mind everyone here has had a month to vacate.
Homeless advocates argue officials just want these people out of sight.
Orange County Supervisor Todd Spitzer says this is the only solution.
I think that there's a group of people who want to live this lifestyle.
And there's nothing we can do to change our behavior.
But I do believe there's a substantial number of people who do want help.
But they're commingled with a very bad element.
People want to live that lifestyle, really?
And he said it so convincingly.
Oh, there's people.
This is the way they just...
This is the old one.
They're not working because they don't want to work.
They want to live this lifestyle.
Bull crap.
Nobody wants to live that lifestyle.
Since when is it a lifestyle?
I mean, a lifestyle is kind of a high concept.
It's not like some poor bastard's got no money, no job, no place to take a shower, is seen as a bum, called such.
And this is a lifestyle...
Is it a lifestyle choice?
I think so, yes.
This is the douchebags down in Southern California.
Hello.
That's pretty unbelievable.
So where do they all go now?
They scatter.
Scramble.
They look for other...
I mean, there's a bunch of...
In LA itself, there's a bunch of little areas that are filling up.
I mean, it's the same thing around here.
They have these encampments, and then they rouse them every so often, and then they show up someplace else.
They find places.
Yeah, they do the same in Austin.
They just rouse...
They don't rouse them.
They just scatter them away from downtown, and then slowly they come back again.
Yeah.
Because they're not considered humans.
Yeah.
No, it was a lifestyle choice.
That's exactly what it is, yes.
Lifestyle.
Hey, our old friend Ebola is back in the news.
Hey!
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked there was corruption going on there.
In Sierra Leone, the deadly Ebola virus, which killed almost 4,000 people, was dubbed the beast.
But millions of dollars in funds raised to fight the virus remain unaccounted for.
The BBC's Ed Butler went to ask what happened to the money.
A children's cancer ward in Sierra Leone's capital, Freetown.
In this terribly poor country, one of the poorest in sub-Saharan Africa, the children here are in one sense actually fortunate.
The care they're getting is provided for free.
Away from this paediatric hospital, though, a lot of medical care in Sierra Leone is not.
And that's not just because the country is poor.
Transparency International ranks it one of the world's worst for everyday corruption.
Most scandalously, it's alleged also In the provision of care for one of the world's biggest crises, the West African Ebola outbreak.
An Auditor-General's report in 2015 found that nearly a third of the money set aside for the disease, millions of dollars, was either being embezzled or grossly mismanaged.
The current Information Minister, Alpha Karnu, said the level of mismanagement involved had been exaggerated.
It was not that the money was frittered away.
It's that support in documentation was not given.
It is in the courts at the moment by Ebola survivors who wish to have more money.
The case that was brought to the ECOWAS court was not brought by the Ebola survivors.
It was brought by a civil society organisation.
Has corruption got worse under your government?
We have tried to put a lot of it in control at the moment.
The former Minister of Energy was prosecuted.
The former Minister of Health.
Those are two good examples.
The prosecutions that Al-Fakhanu mentions there were in fact seven years ago.
Survivor Youssef Khabar says the scars of the disease will last in people's minds a long time.
The Ebola crisis continues to have a huge impact on this country.
But amid the corruption allegations facing the government, voters will at least have their say on a way forward when it comes to general elections taking place next week.
So I hunted around to see what else is going on with Ebola.
Why is this coming back?
We were pretty convinced the whole thing was a massive scam to start with.
And before you go on, whatever he said was all well and good, but let's never call this a shithole country.
Certainly not literally.
And I think I've figured out we need to get a whole bunch of scary disease stuff into the news.
Clad in protective clothing, these doctors in Irua in the south of Nigeria are treating patients with Lhasa fever.
Lhasa?
110 people have died from the virus since January.
Have you ever heard of Lhasa fever?
Yes, I have.
What is Lhasa fever?
That's another one.
I don't know if it's hemorrhagic.
Is it hemorrhagic?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't remember, but I have heard of it, and I'm going to look it up while you continue the report.
In the worst outbreak since 2016, Lassa fever is carried by rats and humans and can spread through bodily fluids such as urine or blood.
More than 350 cases have been recorded so far this year.
The southern state of Edo has been worst hit, especially in poor rural areas.
The specialist hospital in Irua has been inundated with cases.
Samples are sent here because it's the only laboratory in Nigeria that's able to identify results within 24 hours.
A World Health Organization team is raising awareness among medical staff and families to stop the spread of the virus.
researchers are trying to identify the cause of the latest outbreak and why it spreads so fast in the hope they may be able to prevent similar outbreak in the future right if that wasn't bad enough we uh also have the What are they calling it here?
The World Horse Organization fears a new, quote, disease X that could cause a global pandemic.
So there's all these stories...
By the way, before you continue, LASA is...
Common.
In West Africa, in most of the countries, there are about 300,000 to 500,000 cases with 5,000 deaths a year, so 1% death rate.
And it is hemorrhagic, but it's more like dengue in that regard.
You remember where they took the American victim of Ebola?
Remember they put him in the ambulance, he jumped out of the back, like, okay, I'll just walk into the hospital.
Remember that disappointing moment that CNN covered live?
That and the nurse, I remember her doing on her bicycle.
That was in Atlanta.
And here we go.
The CDC lab in Atlanta, which is responsible for storing and studying some of the world's most dangerous pathogens, such as smallpox and Ebola, is showing worrying signs of wear and tear decades earlier than planned.
Yes!
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is asking U.S. Congress for $400 million to build a new and hopefully improved high-security laboratory.
Brother.
Approximately $350 million will be spent on the facility itself while the additional $50 million will go towards related work, which I guess is bribes.
I don't know what related work is.
The current facility is only from 2015.
What?
Yeah.
And they want to tear it down and build another one already?
Well, the 13-year-old site, they say, is wearing down.
Well, 2013, it must be 2003.
No, 2000, no.
You said 13-year-old, that would be 2005.
2005, I thought that's what I said.
Oh, they said 2013.
No.
Okay.
Still a young site.
What was the 2013 number from?
Now you're confusing me.
Damn that daylight saving time.
Yep.
Anyway, they just want money.
Hello?
They just want money.
Let's stop the show and write this down.
Hold on a second.
Oh, you're right.
Where's my pen?
Stop the show.
We've discovered something very important.
News is used to get money.
So that would be fake news then.
This is for commercial gain.
Yeah, by the BBC standards, you're right.
The definition of?
You nailed it.
Bastards.
Eh.
you Bastards.
Let's see.
What else do we have here?
Yeah, I did have one thing.
Actually, it was with Molly Wood that was kind of funny.
On NPR, they were talking about the Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
This is about that law, the back-page law that passed through Congress.
Still has to go through the Senate.
Right, to get rid of the hookers.
Yeah, the anti-hooker ad law.
Yeah.
Poker should be working through the mob.
Yeah, they've got to go through the control channels.
None of these independent...
None of these indie websites.
That won't do.
Yeah, no good.
But she had Congressman Cox.
Was it Charles Cox?
Charlie?
I don't remember his first name.
He was the one that introduced Section 230, and 230 was exactly for the reason the internet grew, is that no website could be responsible if it acted as a library for the contents of the website, i.e.
the library.
But the genesis of how that came to be, I'd never heard before, and I thought it would be fun to listen to it.
The case involved a bulletin board, a post, on the Prodigy web service.
By the way, there's something for being like your parents.
I remember when Prodigy was around.
There was a website.
That was good.
That and LiveJournal.
Right next to my GeoCities.
...involved a bulletin board, a post, on the Prodigy web service.
The post said disparaging things about an investment bank.
And the bank filed a lawsuit for libel.
But they couldn't locate the person who wrote the post.
And so instead, the bank sought damages from Prodigy, the site that hosted the bulletin board.
And so they were held responsible in this defamation case for a judgment of $200 million.
So by the time I landed in Washington, I had roughed an outline for Bill to overturn that holding because it was so clear we needed a I thought it was kind of...
I didn't know that that's where it started.
I think I knew that.
So it really started before the internet?
Yeah, there was a lot of stuff going on before the internet.
The internet was there, of course.
Well, the internet wasn't there until 69.
That was really not much of an internet.
I don't think the internet really started really getting unhinged until about 88, 89.
Oh, yes.
No, it was a little later than that, because...
Well, 89 is when Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web, and then it took off.
It took off in 93.
But then the Prodigy Web Service, that was at the same time when I registered MTV.com, and MTV said, go ahead, we don't care, we have the AOL keyword.
Yes.
Which I still find funny.
Well, I mean, Apple made the same mistake.
There's eWorld.
Oh, eWorld.
Oh, my goodness.
I forgot about that.
Wait a minute.
Didn't they have Apple Link?
I think Apple Link was something on CompuServe, perhaps.
No, no.
Apple Link.
It was its own separate thing.
Oh, maybe.
But eWorld was going to be the thing.
And they were given...
I've told this story before.
I'm going to tell it again.
I don't remember this story.
I like writing about it.
So I've written about it before.
This was about 93.
This is when everyone...
There are pundits out there that said, oh, the internet's going to go nowhere.
This is when the world...
This is as the World Wide Web emerged.
And you'd hear people say, and I can name some of these guys, oh, the Internet's going to go anywhere.
AOL will take over everything.
And the AOL promotion at the time was outrageous.
The Internet can't hold a candle to AOL and its keywords.
It's been in business longer.
It has more users and on and on.
And then Apple and a couple of other people decided there's different versions of this.
AOL clones is what I called them.
And so Apple has got this eWorld thing and they're starting to think about, they're going to roll it out.
And then they are handed, the World Wide Web is starting to emerge.
Apple is literally, well, kind of, I guess not literally, but they're handed the first browser invented out of that University of Champaign, Illinois operation.
Mosaic.
Yeah, Mosaic.
The original Mosaic browser.
It was given to Apple and say, hey, look what you guys can do with this, because we wrote it for Apple.
It was Apple only.
So anyone who was first on a browser, first going on the internet, on the webs...
They were on an Apple because that's where the code was written for.
It was when Netscape came along that they decided, well, let's just give this to everybody.
And, of course, they took the guys from Urbana to do it because Apple said, no, no, we got eWorld.
We got eWorld.
John, I don't think you've ever told that story on the show.
No, I don't think I've told it on the show, but I've told it a number of times.
That's a great story.
Yeah.
And I remember because, what's his name, Mark Andreessen, when I was at MTV, he sent me an email and said, hey, you know, I saw your Gopher server, which I had a Gopher server, on MTV.com.
This is really cool.
You should try this out.
And he sent me a link to the browser.
It was Mac, yes.
And he sent me a link to the HTTPD server, which I was somehow able to compile and install on my Headless Sun 3.
And, you know, that was, hmm, 92?
Could be 92, early 93, one of the two.
Something like that, yeah.
And you're right.
I never even thought about it.
Hold on.
Hey!
Hang up the phone.
I've got to get on CompuServe.
Remember those days?
What the kids will never know these days, John.
What the kids will never know.
Alright, yes.
You got one last one for us when we get out of here?
Because I know you gotta go.
I have a bunch of little short clips because I decided that you always like to put an ISO at the end.
Yes.
And I want to remind people we're going to push off our millennial discussion to the next show and also...
And I'll put this in the newsletter with some background on it.
Some discussion of the senior executive service that's run by the United States government, which people think is the shadow government and they're all concerned about it.
Ah, yeah.
Did someone send us an email about that?
Yes, yes, yes.
Interesting.
Okay, well, good.
I'll leave it alone.
So...
I'm watching, you know, ESPN is really kind of, they're pushing toward women's sports and club soccer in Europe.
Wait, wait, wait.
Are they showing women's field hockey?
No, not yet.
Well, maybe.
That's a winning sport.
I'm telling you, finally someone will figure that out.
Yeah, go ahead.
It will.
Meanwhile, soccer is always made so much more exciting by the guys doing the announcing.
So I have a number of ISOs.
I have one, two, three, four, five, six short ISOs.
Hopefully one of them will take residence as a show regular.
And I want to play them one after the other.
They're all about one or two seconds.
Okay.
I don't think this one's right, but you know it, you love it.
Okay, candidate number one.
Here's a guy on the sideline who kicked the ball back into the field, and the announcer, this guy who gives it a kick of the week or something, he's so excited about it.
This is a sideline ISO. Sideline reporter of the week!
No!
It's not you!
It's not Sebastián Salazar!
Wow, look at that touch!
It's Jamie Watson!
Look at him!
Oh, Phil!
Oh, good first touch, good second touch, and then hi!
Yeah, awesome!
You know it!
You love it!
Phil from Jamie Watson!
Okay.
Yeah, it's a little long for an ISO. Yeah, it's a little long.
It's a little long.
Some of these are long.
This one's a little long, too.
This is the miss of the week.
Miss of the week!
You know it, and you love it!
Diego Rossi!
Yes, you can be the player of the week, and you can have the miss of the week.
Here's a short one you might like.
It might be a good one.
It's a baby.
It's a baby!
It's a baby!
Yes!
Yes!
Wait a minute.
This is good.
Hold on a second.
We gotta do a mashup of these.
It's obvious.
Okay, here we go.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'm still on this one.
I like this one a lot.
Let me try this.
It's a baby!
It's a baby!
Yes!
Yes!
My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows!
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
I think if you reverse the order, it might be better.
Want me to try that?
Yeah, try it.
Lots of time on this show.
My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows!
It's a baby!
It's a baby!
Yes!
Yes!
I like that one.
That, so far, is the fan favorite here in the Cluedio.
I can see why.
Yes.
Okay, he is loving it, maybe.
He is loving it.
Oh, hold on.
I'm sorry.
I didn't catch that one.
It didn't say ISO behind it.
Look at him.
Look at him.
He's loving it.
He knows it.
He loves it.
He's enjoying himself.
What a good time he's having.
Maybe.
That was the irony one.
Now, the last one is Ha Ha.
Ha Ha Ha Ha.
That's from a cartoon.
That's not from...
No, no.
That's a soccer announcer?
Yes.
Ha Ha Ha Ha.
We're doomed.
All right.
Well, I happen to have the ISO that we all want to hear for the end of the show.
Thank you, Tom Starkweather, for sending that in.
Our producers are fantastic.
Sometimes you amaze me.
And we need all the help we can get from our producers.
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Give me your cab.
Taxi!
Taxi!
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Flying cars are about to shift gears from fantasy to reality.
The Dutch flying car.
Can you get in the thing and you did what you want to be, right?
At the airport, the driver's front wings and becomes pirate.
The wind unfolds to a span of 12 yards and presto, it's a plane.
And there's the Dutch voice.
Can you get in the thing and you did what you want to be, right?
The Dutch flying car.
Want to go where you want to be.
Presto, it's a plane.
Dutch flying car.
Get in the thing and you did what you want to be.
That body shell is carbon fibre, so it's very light.
And over here, these blades, they provide the lift.
There's two engines at the back here.
One of them also is for driving it on the road.
Now it can do 160 kilometers an hour on the road, 190 kilometers an hour in the air.
Comic books are really heavy.
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