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The worm came out of his nose.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Wednesday, January 24th, 2018.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1002.
This is No Agenda.
With my special box of iPhone tools in hand, broadcasting live from Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
I'm living in a mall, everybody.
In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where in my hands I'm holding a bag of sorghum, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
Well, we are quite the pair.
I've got iPhone tools and you've got sorghum.
Yes, I have.
Somebody sent me this.
They never said who it was.
But it's a bag, a sealed bag from Gerbs.
G-E-R-B-S. Ancient Grains.
Oh, yes.
Yes, they are ancient grains.
Non-GMO vegan.
So I'm at the airport, John.
You're at the airport hotel?
Yes, I'm at the Schiphol Airport, which has been very interesting.
It's like living in the mall.
It is.
Yeah, I stay at airport hotels.
They're kind of like the...
But you know, the Schiphol Airport is a huge shopping plaza on the non-air side.
And people actually come here to go to dinner, to do shopping, to get groceries, because it's right on the highway.
So you don't have to go into the secure area of the airport.
It's huge.
It's really big.
And people just come to hang out.
Yeah.
I've been there a couple of times and it is very large.
It has lots of stores and places to eat.
It's almost like a destination.
Yeah, it's a destination for people.
So I left yesterday morning at quarter to 11 from Austin through Atlanta.
This is a really crappy flight because you get in at 6 or 6 a.m.
But wait, as the captain came on, as we're flying, ladies and gentlemen, This is your captain speaking here from KLM. I have good news!
We are an hour early!
Yay!
When you want to sleep, you don't want the plane to be an hour early upon arrival because of the tailwinds.
Well, of course, they wake you with that announcement, which is about an hour before they even start to land.
Yeah, so I slept about an hour on the plane, got in, like, oh, crap.
So I got my SIM card, I figured I'd get that, and then just hit the hay for a couple hours.
I've been prepping since noon.
And it's now, what is it now?
10 after 7 p.m.
So, you know, it's great here because you...
Well, first of all, it's a total MacGyver show.
This is the first time with the mobile Windows rig, and it's been performing reasonably well.
We've had a couple of small issues on the technical side.
The internet here, although it has 30 megabits up and down, is of such incredible crap quality.
We had to use my dongle.
30 gigs.
Or 30 megs.
No, yeah.
30 megs, but 30 bad megs.
Yeah, 30 megs.
30 crap megs.
Hey man, you're cutting your stuff up.
And so I got a SIM card and I got five gigas of upgrade.
We went through that whole process before we started the show.
I had to enter 14 numbers five times to get that.
But the big problem was I have this USB interface that kind of runs the show that everything runs through.
And what comes out of that is the headphone amplifier is just a little, no, it's too weak for me, for my ears.
As we know, mine are blown out.
And I have a little headphone amplifier, and that's the one thing, I guess I misread it, I looked at the power supply, 110 volts only.
What?
Who makes that anymore?
China.
China.
So, go ahead, I defy you, to find in the entire airport of Schiphol all of their great shops.
You want charges?
We've got charges for everything.
You want one of those things?
What century are you from, son?
Impossible.
You used to be able to get a little adapter.
You could switch the voltage.
It had different plugs on it.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
Yeah, a converter.
Or an inverter.
No, no, no.
Not even that.
Just a replacement power supply.
Oh, right.
Okay.
No, that's because it's assumed now.
I don't know if I could even find anything that's 110 only.
Yeah, it's assumed that everything is 110, 220, which is kind of what I assumed as well.
So I'm like, okay, this is going to be a problem because I really need to hear the sound.
And if the volume is just too low for my ears, it's going to be irritating.
So I wound up buying four 9-volt...
It's a 12-volt power supply.
So I figured, let me test it.
I got four 9-volts.
And I just cut the wire, got some scotch tape.
And so the amp is running out of...
You jerry-rigged your own power supply with 9-volt batteries?
Yeah, yeah.
I MacGyvered it good.
So that's working.
And then, as the internet was no good, I needed to activate these SIM cards.
But you have to do that on a phone and not in the dongle that I have, this Wi-Fi dongle.
And, of course, try and get your SIM card out of your iPhone.
You need the special iPhone tool, which is a paperclip.
Which I don't have.
So I went downstairs, front desk, and I said, hey, and before I could even finish my sentence, like, oh, here!
And there's a box that says iPhone tools written on it in Magic Marker.
A box full of paper clips.
So, yes, there it is.
So we're all set.
We should be okay.
Yeah, I guess.
Thanks.
And this is the part where you go, gee, Adam, I'm so happy you did that for the show.
I'm happy that you did that for the show, Adam.
Yeah, very good, John.
So do you have a report from anything that's going on over there?
Have you gotten a sense of the goods?
I do.
Give us the goods.
I do.
I have a couple of things going on.
First of all, Davos is in full effect.
So the news is all Switzerland.
It's all Davos.
This is the World Economic Forum.
And there's a number of interesting things going on.
The number one thing is whenever you see a report of someone talking about climate change and they're in the middle of a blizzard in Davos, it's just funny to watch.
Every single time, I just have to laugh.
The irony is fantastic.
Before I play a couple of these EU Euroland clips...
Coming in here and, you know, people are texting me and it's kind of interesting to see how the fist emoji, you know the one where someone's like punching you, punching out the fist?
The fist punch?
The fist coming at you?
The fist going up?
The fist going up?
No, the one coming at you.
This is used to an extreme here in the Netherlands.
Why?
Instead of where we'd be like, okay, or thumbs up, here they all do fist in your face.
It's just one of those little cultural things that I noticed.
Like a boom.
Yeah, kind of like a boom.
Huh.
So, anyway.
Very surprising to hear about the people showing up at Davos this year and...
Italy is kind of front and center.
There's a lot of issues.
They had the election coming up in March and the Prime Minister spoke.
We hope that this will not be the case and that...
The center-left that I represent will have a majority.
In any case, I think we will be the pillar of a possible coalition in our country.
We have a certain expertise in flexibility in politics in my country.
So I think that...
What is clear is, one, that the populist anti-EU position will not prevail, and, second, that Italy will keep its stability.
You know, we had frequent changements in governments in my country, but if you look to fundamentals of our foreign policy, our economy, we are a very, very stable country.
I thought that was just funny.
Yeah, we're a stable country.
Please don't look at our bank account, but we're a stable country.
Everything's good.
The anti-EU people will never win.
Okay.
Yeah.
And here's the guy who's on the scene now, who is hopefully going to save Italy from the far-right crazies.
Ex-Premier and Forza Italia leader Silvio Berlusconi is in Brussels with one eye on a political comeback in Italy's March general election.
Despite currently banned from holding office, it's his party which might just win.
so he was there to get the lowdown on how Brexit was going.
I've been reassured of the fact that the Europeans and the 600,000 Italians who were in England will enjoy the same rights they have now, even when the UK will be out of the EU, and this is very important.
Migration was the other issue given the approach of the market.
Sorry?
Okay.
Thank you.
Well, before you go on, I just want to ask you a question about this.
Isn't this guy supposed to be in jail for, like, child rape and all kinds of other things?
And wasn't this supposed to happen to Sarkozy, too?
Yeah, the Boonga Boonga parties.
But these guys never go to jail.
Of course not.
They're the elites.
They're supposed to both be in jail.
No, it gets better.
will enjoy the same rights they have now, even when the UK will be out of the EU, and this is very important.
Migration was the other issue given the approach of the March poll.
Italy has been at the forefront of the Mediterranean route to Europe, and Berlusconi wants help with boosting controls at the border.
The number of border guards can be increased, but there's also an idea to increase the number of guards to create hotspots in Italy where international border guards can operate.
Berlusconi was given a warm welcome, as many in Europe see him, as the man who can save Italy from populism in March.
Ha, ha, ha.
He's going to save Italy from populism.
Populism is some horrible thing?
I guess.
There's no one else who can save the country, but they have to bring that guy back.
It's funny.
Interesting.
Open their arms.
Come on back in.
They'll be fine.
You can hook everybody up.
Well, he was definitely more entertaining than these other guys.
This is true.
On Brexit, Theresa May was doing a lot of interviews.
Just tons.
Euronews is pretty interesting.
Just tons of interviews.
And I didn't know this, but Theresa May speaks German.
And yes, it was a rehearsed little bit she did at the beginning, you'll hear in this clip.
But it's pretty good, accent-wise.
Did you hear that?
We're going to surprise the EU. There will be no second referendum on Britain leaving the EU. A parliament decided that we would give the British public the choice, and they made their vote, they made their decision, and I think it's important that politicians then deliver on that for them.
So no second Brexit according, no vote according to Theresa May.
We'll see.
Yes, and the final clip I have that was kind of interesting was, well, besides that you may have seen in Dusseldorf Airport that there were two protest groups, one Turks, one Kurds.
Have you seen any of this footage?
They went at each other in the airport.
Yes, this is actually all over YouTube.
I actually retweeted some of it.
It is all over the YouTubes.
It's pretty funny.
Yeah, they're hitting each other with flags and flagpoles.
It's nuts.
This is Poland.
Now, you remember Poland, they wanted to change their constitution so that they could have more control over, I think, was it their judges?
Yeah.
I think they wanted to do something in the court system, and Franz Timmermans, my buddy there, the big Bilderberg elitist, he said, well, you know, if you guys don't play ball, then we're going to have to punish you and fine you, and this has not been resolved as of yet.
Hands off Poland, the message from nationalist protesters in Warsaw.
They're outraged after the EU said it would take legal action over Polish plans to give politicians more power in hiring and firing judges.
Their angers aimed at Donald Tusk, among others, former Polish prime minister, now head of the European Council.
Poland's Justice Minister turned his wrath on the European Commission's Dutch Vice President.
We all know from school to in history class that the Netherlands has a long experience in colonialism, but bad habits must be stamped out, and I'd like to ask Mr Timmermans to stop speaking with such insolence and arrogance about Poland and the Poles and the Polish authorities, because we deserve respect, and we expect and demand respect. because we deserve respect, and we expect and demand respect.
The Commission gave one month for Poland to allay concerns, Franz Timmermans and others in Brussels say the reforms undermined judicial independence.
After protests in Poland by those who see the reforms as a power grab, the country's president vetoed the most controversial part governing Supreme Court nominations.
Nonetheless, the government seems determined to press ahead.
So that is the update on the rift with Poland, who still do not have any visa waivers from the United States.
Thanks, President Trump.
And Obama.
Well, yeah, thanks Obama, too.
But Trump promised within two weeks of being elected he'd do it.
Oh, I don't remember that.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
I think it's shitty that he's done that.
He's a liar.
He is.
And then I have one more EU clip here.
As the crackdown is taking place on Bitcoin, it is over here.
This is the EU Commission Vice President, what's his name?
Valdis Dombrovsky.
...of blockchain and this is technology underlining cryptocurrencies.
But to do so, we must be vigilant and prevent cryptocurrencies from becoming a token for unlawful behavior.
In December, I wrote to the European supervisory authorities to ask them to update their warnings from the financial stability and investor protection perspective.
This will happen shortly.
The updated rules against money laundering, which we agreed in December, will put cryptocurrency exchanges and custodial wallet providers within the scope of money laundering supervision.
That means less anonymity and more traceability through better customer identification and strong due diligence.
Yeah, this is going to be great.
The exchanges will all have to comply with EU regulations for you to get your money out.
Great.
Yeah, well, you won't be able to get your money out.
That's part of it.
No.
And just to say it on the Bitcoin topic, from what I understand, I'm sure a lot of people will correct me on this.
Apparently, the guy, it's just some guy in an apartment who was running the crypto cap website that shows you the market cap of each cryptocurrency.
Uh-huh.
When South Korea said, well, we're not going to allow this anymore.
We're cutting down.
We're going to close the exchanges.
He pulled the numbers from the Korean exchanges out of his index.
And that's when, of course, the numbers started to tank because the whole piece of data was omitted all of a sudden.
And then it just became a dominant effect.
Brother.
This thing is...
I can't believe anyone put a dime in this.
This is so corrupt.
Well, we did get some Davos news here that played big in the Bay Area.
All right.
Uh, apparently Mark Benioff was over there, uh, blabbing away about one thing or another, and I don't know what the grudge is or anything, but he's, you've got to play this Benioff story, uh, By the way, this story is the worst story because it links about 10 different stories in a very haphazard manner.
Salesforce CEO Mark Benioff comparing Facebook to cigarettes.
Good evening, I'm Veronica Dela Cruz.
Mark Benioff may have made his billions in tech, but he says it is time for the feds to start regulating Silicon Valley.
JBI X5's Suzy Steinmel on how Benioff is comparing social media to big tobacco.
Suzy?
Well, Alan and Veronica, not just big tobacco, but also sugar.
Salesforce CEO Mark Benioff says tech is addictive, bad for you, and needs regulation.
He says CEOs aren't doing enough and that politicians need to step in.
With stunning many in Silicon Valley and San Francisco, Salesforce CEO Mark Benioff today said tech should be regulated like tobacco.
Well, I think you'd do it exactly the same way that you regulated the cigarette industry.
You know, here's a product.
Cigarettes, they're addictive.
You know, they're not good for you.
Maybe there's all kinds of different forces trying to get you to do certain things.
There's a lot of parallels.
Bonioff made this comparison at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland today on CNBC. This comes on the heels of investors attacking Apple earlier this month, saying Apple is responsible for teenagers being addicted to smartphones and harming their mental health.
California's Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom says he doesn't support any regulation.
But I think it's a very dangerous game when politicians start determining the veracity of truth.
You've got a president who's about to announce fake news awards.
I don't want to walk down that same path.
Our exclusive KPIX Survey USA poll showed recently.
Stop, stop, stop.
First of all, that's a whipsaw.
Oh yeah, that's a total whipsaw.
Let's listen to it again.
It had nothing to do with the topic.
This woman is a new reporter.
It's also an old whipsaw.
It's an old clip because he's talking about the fake news award, which was a week ago.
Yeah, but this woman is a newbie that just got...
She's like the tech reporter.
And she's got kind of a voice like this.
Yes.
And she is throwing this information together in a haphazard manner.
Newsom says he doesn't support any regulation.
But I think it's a very dangerous game when politicians start determining the veracity of truth.
You've got a president that's about to announce fake news awards.
I don't want to walk down that same path.
Our exclusive KPIX Survey USA poll showed recently 49% of registered voters in San Francisco say tech companies have too much influence over local government.
54% say tech companies have been mostly good for San Francisco.
30% say they've been mostly bad.
While Benioff calls CEOs complacent, Newsom says the companies should self-regulate and not get government information.
Obviously, it's incumbent upon these platforms to figure that out internally in terms of their algorithms, in terms of the technology itself.
The Washington Post just reported Google for the first time outspent any other company in 2017 to influence Washington, D.C. Google allocated more than $18 million to lobby Congress and the White House.
Facebook, Amazon, and Apple also all broke company records in lobbying expenditures this year.
You know, we've been hearing this type of noise for...
Several weeks now.
Probably longer than that.
And I've been, I think we've both been saying, the media certainly wants to regulate Facebook.
Well, somebody does.
But let's go over this particular report.
It started with Benioff in Davos.
And this was actually him bitching about Facebook.
She kind of made it general.
He's bitching about tech.
No, no, he's bitching about, he was bitching about social media.
Yeah.
Specifically.
Yeah.
And everybody else who reported on this story said that, but she didn't.
She then switches it to Apple somehow, about Apple smartphones and how people are jumping all over that, which is a different story.
It's a different addiction, yes.
And it's a different addiction and a different story.
It's not the same story as what Benioff's talking about.
Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
See, that's our own whipsaw.
And then she goes and she changes the topic to influence peddling by starting off about what San Franciscans think of the tech industry in the city with a bunch of different surveys, which is a different story, a third story.
Yeah.
And then she switches again to how much money the tech companies are spending on lobbying.
A fourth distinct story.
And she jumbles them all together with phony clips, especially the Newsom stuff, which had nothing to do with any of those four stories.
There were about two other stories.
So she has six stories, all different, packed into one report.
They got to deal with this over there at KPIX. NPR did a story on this as well.
So there's the addictive nature of social media, the addictive nature of phones and likes and all this stuff.
And then there's the fake news, which I think is what Benioff was.
Well, that's how the story started out.
You're right.
It was four different stories.
Benioff never talked about fake news.
Right.
She did.
She did.
But this whole fake news thing, the M5M is picking that up, and they are going after Facebook and Twitter and Google, all under the guise of, oh, the Russians, the Russians, oh, it's crazy.
But it's not about that, as you'll hear in this report.
Well, none of the tech giants claims to be ready, okay?
They each have a version of we're getting there, but only for ads explicitly about candidates like Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, not ads about issues like DACA or global warming.
Facebook says it's creating a new documentation process where advertisers may be required to verify who they are and where they are.
And then I suppose there's the process of verifying that they're telling the truth, which is a matter of fact.
You're getting it, exactly.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
It's going to start picking and choosing what news to show us, what news we're going to see.
This is related to the quest to show us less fake news.
No.
CEO Mark Zuckerberg, he posted on his Facebook page that the company is going to start showing more news from sources that are high quality, in his words, and push down stuff that purports to be news but may be lower quality.
Can you explain to me, John, as a long-term newsman, how does one discern between regular, good, and lower quality news?
I would say the good would be one of the, I'd say the local daily, Metro Daily would be a good source.
And a bad source would be the local high school newspaper.
That would be a mediocre lesser source.
Okay.
But, hmm.
All right.
And, you know, CEO Mark Zuckerberg, he posted on his Facebook page that the company is going to start showing more news from sources that are high quality, in his words, and push down stuff that purports to be news but may be lower quality.
This is the single biggest announcement the company's made directly in response to the fake news controversy.
And, you know, it is important to point out that many experts say that this is how a powerful tech giant What's
been the reaction from mainstream news media to that?
Well, veteran news leaders are, to put it, mildly horrified that Facebook would take an important decision like that and throw it to a popular vote.
There's another kind of criticism among conservatives who are concerned that liberal Facebook will push down right-wing content.
And meanwhile, Facebook has decided they're not offering interviews to talk about the rationale for their move.
This, of course, is not at all about fake news.
This is only about the advertisers.
The advertisers have revolted.
And they've said, we don't want our ads next to bullcrap.
And you have to make sure that doesn't happen.
And people are posting...
You can check it out yourself on your secret Facebook page.
I know you have one.
I don't have one.
You can put me on a lie detector.
Well, why don't you just grab your e-meter right now?
Which I do want to talk about later.
People have seen posts removed, and you get a nice little notice saying, no, this was fake news, this is not good, it's been removed, and you have a strike.
Ooh, a strike!
Yeah, I got a strike the other day.
Yeah, can you get balls and strikes?
No, I got a strike from YouTube.
For what?
Well, a year ago, maybe longer than a year ago, Christina was doing some documentary, and she said, Daddy, do you have any old videos of me when I was a baby?
I said, yeah, I got something, so I went down to the storage room, I got out the VHS, I got a VHS player from Goodwill, I hooked it all up, got a legato thing to digitize it, and it was of her, of a baby, and there was this one sequence where she, and she's She's just barely walking, so she's two years old.
And her mom is running behind her.
She's naked from behind, and her mom is running behind her with a little potty to make her sit on the potty.
And it was a cute little sequence.
No.
Removed because that is against our guidelines, against our community standards.
Like, wow, okay.
And I got a strike.
A permanent strike.
Two more and I'm out.
How many strikes can you get?
Three.
Three.
Because like around in California or I think Comcast, I don't know who it is, but you can get seven strikes before you're banned.
No, it's three strikes and you're out on YouTube.
And then what happens?
Then they turn off your account permanently and you may never participate in anything ever again.
You're bane.
You're shunned.
Wow, that's harsh.
Yeah, a little bit.
Especially, you know, just a kid walking around.
But, oh no, that's probably child porn.
Child porn?
Well, it's not.
Well, they should know what child porn is.
Seems to me.
But anyway, this is about the advertisers.
It has nothing to do with fake news, and the reason why they're crowdsourcing it, yes, hello, dig, but how about Reddit?
Reddit is the same, upvote, downvote.
You can't vote the truth.
There's your quote of the day.
You can't.
You cannot vote the truth.
I agree.
But they're going to do it.
Since you're on that topic, let's just play this so we can stay on this topic for a second because there are some comments.
Schiff versus the Russian bots.
Ah, yes.
Thank you, Susie.
Top Democrats are also calling out social media companies.
Congressman Adam Schiff and Senator Dianne Feinstein are demanding Facebook and Twitter investigate Russian bots for encouraging to release the memo campaign online.
The memo was written by the House Intelligence Committee about alleged misconduct in the Russia investigation.
In a joint statement, Schiff and Feinstein wrote, "If these reports are accurate, we are witnessing an ongoing attack by the Russian government through Kremlin-linked social media actors, directly acting to intervene and influence our democratic process." They have requested a report by Friday.
Facebook and Twitter have not responded.
Did you read that pathetic memo they sent?
I've only seen pieces of it.
Oh!
It was like, please, you have to do this.
It's your patriotic duty because this is horrible.
What's going on?
The Russians are taking over this hashtag and you have to work on it.
Please, Mr.
Zuckerberg.
It's really pathetic.
No, I did not see that at all.
I thought you were talking about something else.
I will say this, that everybody that I was looking at, I'm on Twitter.
I haven't seen any bots.
It's mostly people.
Denise D'Souza, half a dozen congressmen.
Are these all bots?
Yes.
They're all demanding that they release the memo.
Yeah.
And I have not seen any bots demanding it.
Why are these?
You know, I think what we're witnessing is a battle between, you know, kind of a battle between two, well, besides the Republicans and the Democrats, these are both Democrats that are making these claims.
There's no Republican saying this.
That is a bunch of Russian bots.
And Feinstein has lost it.
She's become pretty much like she just looks like she's gone.
Well, she's in her 80s now, isn't she?
She's 85.
Yeah, Schiff is just an evil prick.
You know, there's nothing much you can say about him.
Right.
So, not a big fan.
Yeah, no, I don't think I have it on hand.
I'll see if I can find it real quick.
Someone sent it to me.
I was laughing like, jeez.
Well, that's why they didn't respond, I'm sure.
They said, what is this?
We don't have to respond.
They have lawyers, you know, that are high-end because they get paid lots of money to do very little work.
So they get to sit there and just, you know, no, you don't have to do it.
Don't respond.
I mean, it's like the lawyers for Uber.
No, don't talk.
We're not going to do that.
We're not going to participate.
We're not talking at all, no.
No, I don't have it handy.
I don't know where it is.
But yeah, it's like a five-page memo outlining these bots that are propagating the hashtag release the memo.
I mean, how pathetic do you have to be if that's what you're sending to Zuckerberg?
That's bad.
Yeah, you're right.
It's about the advertisers.
It's the whole thing.
It's all about the advertisers.
Nobody cares about what news, phony news or real news that they're sending around on Facebook.
And the thing that gets me is the perception is being created that there's nowhere else that you can be social.
There's nowhere else that you can communicate with your friends.
There's no other place on the internet that that can be done.
Or you couldn't even build it.
There's no way.
You're not Mark Zuckerberg.
Of course, there's tons of places that you can do that.
And these places, they'll never be a Facebook because you can't, just can't, it doesn't work that way.
I've always said you can't monetize the network and Facebook.
Look, they're not going away tomorrow, but they have a real problem.
They have a super problem.
And they're actually, they're cutting themselves in the, you know, they're shooting themselves in the foot.
You're removing popular articles publicly.
Popular articles is clicks.
Clicks equals eyeballs.
Nice.
An addiction.
An addiction for advertisers.
And so they now have to go against that very thing that has made them so wildly popular.
Google, same.
And boy, I'll tell you, I'm just going to keep harping on the CRX.me website.
I really love not using Google and Yahoo and Bing and all those search engines.
I'm really enjoying the results I'm getting.
It's really phenomenal.
I know you've probably had the same experience.
I would say except for images, which are just piss poor on that thing.
Yeah, I agree.
It's very good.
It gets you a lot.
It gets you kind of alt-dash.
Results.
And particularly if you're looking for something like from a year ago.
It's very good about older stuff.
But again, one of the things I use to always check these things, I don't do it so much anymore because there's not that many search engines.
They all get gobbled up by the other search engines.
But when there was a lot of search engines, I would always do a vanity search.
Because I know what I want to see if I look myself up.
I want to see my profile on PC Magazine or maybe a link to PC Magazine.
Today I want to see the No Agenda show high within the top five.
I want to see my blog.
I want to see my wiki page.
I want to see maybe a few articles.
I know exactly what I'm looking for on my own vanity search that should show up.
With search XME, whatever it is, It shows up beautifully.
Yeah, it does.
No, it does.
And you can tweak it.
You can tweak stuff and take stuff.
Anyway, my point is, the internet is a pretty big system.
And this idea that it's nothing, it's useless without Facebook is pathetic.
It is pathetic.
It's pathetic.
Well, it's particularly pathetic for somebody like myself who doesn't use Facebook in any way, no matter what you might think, because I know you're aghast.
You and everybody else who are big Facebook addicts are aghast that someone could possibly not be on Facebook.
Stop right there.
No, stop right there.
The only reason I still have a facebag account is for this show.
I'm not an addict, so stop there.
Second, you posted a link on Twitter to something on Facebook.
So either you're tweeting stuff you're not looking at, or you have a facebag account.
I posted no link to something on Facebook.
One, there's a lot of...
You posted a link?
It was a retweet.
So did you read it?
You just retweeted something you didn't read?
That's actually true.
Okay.
Well, then that's fine.
I'll accept that.
I do that a lot.
I retweet.
Oh, this is interesting.
I'll just retweet.
Okay.
I will admit it.
I am an irresponsible Twitter user.
I constantly do this.
You are a bot.
That is the definition of a bot.
You just retweeted something without even looking at it.
You're a bot.
It seemed interesting.
Yeah.
Maybe my followers would be interested.
It's true.
I do that constantly.
Busted.
Busted!
That busted.
I go back and sometimes pull the retweet, which is that you just click, you re-click on the retweet.
Oh yeah, it goes away.
Yeah, of course it goes away.
I didn't do nothing.
Um...
There goes a pipeline on rails going by.
It's the most dangerous thing you can imagine on interstate commerce.
So there is some Russia collusion update stuff to talk about.
And I think I have a little backgrounder here.
Let me see.
Yeah, I have a backgrounder.
Let me just get it here.
Which one was it?
I'm really missing my screen real estate today.
I can't seem to see everything.
Can you imagine people who do all their work on a phone or an iPad?
And this is a 16-inch screen.
It's just...
Yeah, it's too small.
It's not for this job.
I had a backgrounder.
Oh, here we go.
No, that's not it.
Nah.
Why can't I find it now?
Damn it.
Well, I will skip the backgrounder and I will go straight to the Secret Society, which you've probably heard about by now.
It does make you wonder.
Again, it's a strange coincidence.
Just as, you know, it's possible that these text messages that are missing, perhaps they really were lost.
Perhaps it is another strange coincidence.
This, by the way, is Representative Radcliffe and he's there with Gowdy.
Coincidence.
The problem, Martha, is for former prosecutors like Chairman Gowdy and myself that worked at the department and worked with the FBI, it makes it harder and harder for us to explain away one really strange coincidence after another.
Look, the point, I think, with respect to the issue of bias that Chairman Gowdy mentioned before, we knew that Strzok and Page had an intense anti-Trump bias.
And that's okay so long as they check it at the door and do their job.
But we learned today in the thousands of text messages that we reviewed that perhaps they may not have done that.
There's certainly a factual basis to question whether or not they acted on that bias.
We know about this insurance policy that was referenced in trying to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president.
We learned today about information that after, in the immediate aftermath of his election, that there may have been a secret society of folks within the Department of Justice and the FBI to include Page and Struck that would be working against him.
I'm not saying that actually happened, but when folks speak in those terms, they need to come forward to explain the context with which they use those terms.
I really like this new twist in the story that there was a secret society.
This is fantastic.
Yeah, I'm not buying into that so much, but I do want to make some comments on, because I worked for the government long enough to know that people that are supposed to be doing their job a certain way will pick up a grudge In fact, we're watching this in National Basketball Association play with the referees and the grudges they're starting to pick up against certain players.
It's really a problem.
But you'll see it.
You'll see some guy does it.
You go into a company and there's a CEO that somebody doesn't like and they take the assignment and they really go after him on purpose to screw with him.
And they do it, and you see it constantly, and it wouldn't be a surprise to me if these two guys were doing everything they could to submarine Trump's campaign while in the FBI. If it wasn't happening, in fact, if it wasn't happening, I'd be stunned.
I agree.
I agree.
But the minute you bring in secret societies, shoot, didn't Kennedy say something about that in one of his speeches?
He talked about secrecy.
Hold on, let me see.
Let me see.
Let me see what I can find here.
Let's see if this is it.
We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.
Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.
Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.
And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.
That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it's in my control.
And no official of my administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence.
Was that about Russia?
On infiltration instead of invasion.
On subversion instead of elections.
On intimidation instead of free choice.
On guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.
It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine, That combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations.
Its preparations are concealed, not published.
Its mistakes are buried, not headlined.
Its dissenters are silenced, not praised.
No expenditure is questioned.
No rumor is printed.
No secret is revealed.
No president should fear public scrutiny of his program.
It wasn't really about secret societies, but kind of interesting in light of what's going on today.
Yeah, now that's been switched over to Soros.
Yeah, exactly.
But former U.S. Attorney Joe DeGeneva, who I don't know, but he was a U.S. attorney, he's making the rounds.
He's showing up everywhere, and he is talking about this secret society stuff in a whole different light.
Joe DeGeneva is a former U.S. A U.S. Attorney in D.C. And I apologize, I got this off the TV....joins us tonight.
Joe, thanks a lot for coming on.
My pleasure.
So, on a special report a little over an hour ago, Ron Johnson, the head of Senator, who's head of the Homeland Security Committee, suggested that the secret society referenced in these texts may have been an actual thing, and it may have meant off-site, away from the FBI secretly.
We don't know more than that.
What does this suggest to you?
It suggests, as we have said from the beginning, that there was a brazen plot To illegally exonerate Hillary Clinton.
And if she didn't win the election, to then frame Donald Trump with a falsely created crime.
Everything that we have seen from these texts and from all the facts developing shows that the FBI and senior DOJ officials conspired to violate the law and to deny Donald Trump his civil rights.
What would be the motive for that?
The motive would be that they didn't like Donald Trump.
they didn't think he was fit to be president, and they were going to do everything within their power to exonerate Hillary Clinton, and if she lost, to frame Donald Trump with a false crime because they didn't think he should be president.
What do you make of the claim that five months of text messages between Strzok and Lisa Page have somehow disappeared as Louis Lerner's emails did, as Hillary Clinton's emails did?
Well, as an old United States attorney who was I've watched obstruction of justices over the years.
That explanation from the Bureau is ludicrous.
Those texts were either purposely destroyed, period.
They were purposely destroyed.
Moreover, they exist somewhere.
I can assure you the NSA has them.
Other companies have them.
Verizon has them.
AT&T.
And if the Bureau can't figure out how to get them, they're in worse shape than I thought they were.
How do we proceed if the country's chief law enforcement agency is itself guilty of that?
Well, the attorney general needs to appoint a special counsel.
And if he doesn't want to do that, he needs to ensure that the criminal division of the Justice Department impanels a grand jury immediately and starts putting in that grand jury under oath, Comey struck.
Page, Baker, McCabe, everybody, and senior Justice Department officials, Sally Yates, Bruce Ohr, and others, John Carlin, the head of the National Security Division.
All of these people need to be in front of a federal grand jury.
We have long since passed the time when we need to have just congressional investigations for this.
Make no mistake about it, a group of FBI and DOJ people were trying to frame Donald Trump of a falsely created crime.
Chuck and Page apparently still working at the FBI headquarters here in Washington.
Does that strike you as odd?
Strikes me as very odd.
I cannot conceive of circumstances under which agents in these conditions, with the kind of text messages that they exchange, knowing what we know now, About the criminal activity involving the compromising of national security agency intercepts of 702 data involving private American citizens.
I can't imagine how they can still be on the premises.
Would they be cleared to see classified information?
I certainly cannot imagine how they would still be cleared to see classified information.
But they have access to former colleagues, of course, or their present colleagues in the building.
Yes, members of the secret society no doubt continue to still talk to one another.
I don't know about this guy.
I mean...
Well, a couple of things that bring it to mind.
Remember that right after the election, or just before the election, I think it was the Podesta group or somebody in that group who says, if this guy gets elected, we're all going to hang?
That was Hillary, and she said, we will all hang from the same noose.
It was Hillary.
Okay.
It was Hillary.
And then when talking about secret societies, do you remember a couple campaigns ago, and we discussed it on this show, The list of journos, they had this little secret group amongst themselves.
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.
Discussion group.
They had their little email server, their little list serve.
Yeah, they had their own list serve and they were doing this, they were working with each other and a lot of them are still working today.
They were working with each other to make sure that Obama got re-elected by writing, complimenting your articles, doing it.
Just they were working for the Democrat Party is what they were doing, Democratic Party.
Yeah, yeah.
I do remember.
Yeah, and I remember that.
And then also in the text going back and forth between this guy and his girlfriend, these two FBI people that are still working there, they discussed something about insurance.
If Trump got elected, we have this thing for insurance.
And they referred to this third party, McCabe or whatever his name is.
And they were talking about insurance.
And the girl returns, don't worry about it.
There's no chance.
Everybody knows he's not going to get elected.
But this other guy's working on insurance.
So that still has yet to be revealed.
In other words, they somehow can get themselves off the hook from exactly what this guy's talking about.
A grand jury.
This was the Journalist.
It was a private Google Groups forum for discussing politics and news media with 400 left-leaning journalists.
I'm reading from the Book of Knowledge.
Academics and others.
Now, this is interesting.
Who created this in February of 2007?
I don't recall.
Ezra Klein.
The bastion of NPR truth, ladies and gentlemen.
Ezra Klein.
People go gaga for this guy.
So he's front and center.
It's really a mess.
Yeah.
It is.
It is.
But it's a good mess.
Hey, we're living off that mess.
I'm liking that.
Well, we're kind of living off it.
We weren't living off it on this show.
We'll get to that.
Based on the donations.
It's a little early.
Just a little bit.
Not necessarily.
I do have the...
Let's see.
Did I find that rundown?
No.
no you No.
It probably wasn't that good.
But it's just...
What's the status?
You're there in America.
What's the next step in all of this?
What's going to happen in this FBI? Are we going to see an investigation?
Are we going to...
Is it just going to twaddle along?
What's going to happen?
Well, nobody really knows because the reporting that we get is pretty...
Well, let's get an idea.
I have a couple of clips that maybe bring us closer.
Let me see where my clips are.
Third Mayor.
But meanwhile, play this as a little entremont.
Play this KPX Third Mayor ISO and just listen to the way she says her words.
San Francisco could soon have its third mayor.
Mayor!
Could have its third mayor!
And that mayor will have a car!
San Francisco could soon have its third mayor with a car!
Yeah.
Jeez.
Okay, let's start with ABC, JK on Trump-Muller-Muller meeting.
Thank you.
And as I mentioned, we have also learned tonight of two key issues Robert Mueller would like to ask President Trump about.
So let's get right to our Chief White House Correspondent, Jonathan Karl, who's with us here in New York tonight.
And John, what are you learning?
Well, we know that two of the issues that Mueller wants to focus on are the firing of James Comey and the firing of Michael Flynn.
But I've got to tell you, David, there is no guarantee this interview will happen.
In fact, I think this could become a big fight.
I have spoken to people very close to the president who say that he should do everything possible to stop this interview from happening, that it could be a disaster, even though he told me back in June he would be 100% willing to do it.
Yes, we remember that.
So what are they trying to say?
That he's being advised not to do it?
Well, this is ABC versus CBS. ABC has this...
They try to make it appear that...
ABC's been doing this.
They...
They make it appear that Trump's just lying about everything.
And in this case, they make it clear that he promised he'd talk to Mueller, and now he says, oh, he's not going to talk to him under any circumstances.
We don't know one way or the other.
But if you listen to the same time, the same real-time report done by CBS on the same day, listen to CBS snip on the Trump investigation.
Former Director Comey and others he empowered have tainted the agency's reputation for unbiased pursuit of justice.
At the White House meeting, Ray also protested the pressure Sessions was applying to fire Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe over the tech scandal.
Reporters asked the President if Ray threatened to resign in protest.
No, he didn't at all.
He did not even a little bit.
Nope.
And he's going to do a good job.
Mueller and the president's attorneys continue to negotiate over how and when Mr.
Trump will be interviewed by Robert Mueller.
The White House lawyer, Ty Cobb, told us President Trump is, quote, very eager to be interviewed by Mueller and that such an encounter will likely occur in the coming weeks.
Jeff?
All right, Major Garrett at the White House.
So one side, ABC says there's no chance he's going to do it, and his sources, blah, blah, blah.
Trump's promised he'll do it, but he's not going to do it.
Because he's a liar.
He's a liar.
He's a liar.
So we can listen to a couple of things here that are kind of interesting.
I found my backgrounder on the memo.
The memo?
Yeah.
So let me play that for you.
The short-lived government shutdown did not shut down GOP efforts to undermine the Russia investigation.
Republicans may bypass the executive branch's declassification process to release a classified memo on the FBI's alleged surveillance abuses and are now considering releasing some of the underlying intelligence behind the memo.
The committee will come to order.
Spearheaded by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, who recused himself from the Russia probe last year after coming under investigation for unauthorized release of classified information, the memo alleges that the dossier on President-elect Trump was used as part of the justification for a secret FISA court warrant to monitor the communications of former Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page.
This, according to sources familiar with the document.
Democrats note that the FBI used other intelligence in its warrant application, calling the memo an attempt to undermine Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
Republicans are also seizing again on text messages between two FBI officials with a new cache of 400 pages handed over to lawmakers.
In one exchange, an official says it is, quote, unbelievable that Trump and Clinton are facing off in the presidential race.
The other official responds, quote, now the pressure really starts to finish.
I love the little cyber effects they're using in the background.
You hear that?
I think that represents text messages.
Publicans are also seizing again on text messages between two FBI officials with a new cache of 400 pages handed over to lawmakers.
In one exchange, an official says it is, quote, unbelievable that Trump and Clinton are facing off in the presidential race.
The other official responds, quote, Now the pressure really starts to finish M.Y.E., an apparent reference to the mid-year exam, the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server.
Neither effort has interrupted the special counsel's work.
All right, Donald John Trump.
One new potential focus for investigators, though.
That was a whipsaw.
Totally.
What was that about?
That was great.
But I'm going to add a little cyber effect to it.
...in the presidential race.
The other official responds, quote, now the pressure really starts to finish M-Y-E, an apparent reference to the mid-year exam, the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server.
Neither effort has interrupted the special counsel's work.
All right, Donald John Trump.
There's no potential focus for investigators, though.
As Trump took the oath of office, at least half a dozen Russians connected to the Kremlin were in Washington to celebrate his inauguration, as first reported by the Washington Post and confirmed by an intelligence source to CNN. Including Russian pharmaceutical executive Alexei Ripik and his wife Polina, who received tickets to watch the inauguration right in front of the U.S. Capitol.
They also attended events surrounding Trump's sleep, even getting close enough to shake the president's hand.
According to the Post, also in Washington, were Victor Vexelberg, a businessman closely connected to Putin, and Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who attended a meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 with Donald Trump Jr., offering damaging information on Hillary Clinton.
The Post reported and CNN has confirmed that FBI counterintelligence officials were concerned about the attendance of some who had also surfaced in the investigation of potential ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.
The Post did not specify which attendees raised that concern.
Isn't that great?
So they actually, the whipsaw clip is where they turn the story around into, oh, look at all these Russians who were there.
Yeah, that was a fascinating structure.
And then they bring all this Russian...
Oh, there are seven Russians.
The Washington, D.C. area, in fact, the East Coast in general, is crawling with Russians.
How about Austin?
Oh, you got a lot of Russians there, too?
Tons of Russians.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there are Russians everywhere.
So what?
So they go to this thing.
Yeah.
But okay, that's CNN. CNN and Washington Post.
The worst.
And they made it sound like...
And they sat front and center.
Well, don't you remember there was nobody there?
So it wasn't that hard to get a ticket, apparently.
Either they were there or they were the only ones there, apparently.
So back to my point, which is they're trying to make...
They structure the stories, well obviously on CNN they do that, but on ABC they do it too, and I think this is the whipsaw that I have, not the ISO, but I have ABC Dreamers whipsaw, and this is a great, not only a whipsaw, but On the surface, the story itself is a lie.
But everyone will be trying.
Could this White House envision a scenario in which these dreamers are deported?
Would that be something the president is okay with?
At this point, the president is willing to sign something to find a permanent solution.
Is the White House using these dreamers as a bargaining chip?
Is that the strategy?
Not at all.
But you can't fix the problem if you just tinker with the immigration in a small way.
Just a few months ago, the president said the Dreamers need not worry.
The Dreamers need worry.
We love the dreamers.
We love everybody.
Thank you very much.
We love the dreamers.
We love everybody.
It's a bill of love.
He says specifically, play this ISO of the same thing, because I want to make it very clear what's going on here.
Just a few months ago, the president said the dreamers need not worry.
We love the dreamers.
We love everybody.
Thank you very much.
He didn't say that.
He didn't say that at all.
She says a few months ago, the president said, quote, she didn't say quote, but it would go like this.
The president said, and so you expect a quote, the dreamers need not worry.
He never said that.
He says he loves the dreamers.
He didn't say they need not be worried.
Let's play it again.
A few months ago, the president said the dreamers need not worry.
The dreamers need not worry.
We love the dreamers.
We love everybody.
Wow.
And I think it's, maybe it's because it's her question.
I think it's her question.
Because you hear her saying, should the dreamers worry?
It's her question.
Right, so it's her question.
And so she, in her mind, as the good journo that she is, this is what she heard him say.
Just a few months ago, the president said the dreamers need not worry.
Should the dreamers be worried?
We love the dreamers.
We love everybody.
Thank you very much.
Now, obviously it's nitpicking, but really, this is ABC News.
This is the news.
This is how it works.
Number one, by the way.
ABC. Number one news right now.
Really?
On the evening broadcast, yeah.
Oh, that must irk the CIA. Well, CBS has really toned it down.
They have gotten...
Something's up.
They're not pulling the whipsaws at all.
I haven't caught them.
I've been listening to them.
I haven't caught any.
ABC's just doing them story after story.
It's outrageous.
I had a couple of them.
One of them I lost somewhere in the clippage.
But this one here was outrageous.
Outrageous.
It was a lie.
Yeah.
But it was set up in a way to make it look like he's the liar.
Yes.
In her mind, he is.
That's the sad thing.
Journos are people too, John.
They're just people.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Where the C stands for Clipping the Whipsaws Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, all the subs out there, and all the dames and knights too.
In the morning to the Troll Room.
NoagendaStream.com.
Everybody's there a day early.
Thanks for showing up.
Most of you are there.
Let me see what we have here.
Let me check.
What do we have listening?
We have...
Oh, I don't know.
Can't see.
Nobody.
Somebody's listening somewhere.
And I do also want to say in the morning to Mike Riley, he brought us the artwork for episode 1001.
This was Al Green's greatest hits.
Yeah.
It was the album cover.
33 classic tracks, such as Here I Am to Impeach 45, Take Me to the 25th Amendment, I-M-P-E-A-C-H, I Rise Today to Call for Impeachment, and other great tracks.
We should probably put that to Chris Wilson could do that.
He could do those tracks and I'd do the bogative announcer voice.
Right now on KTEL Records and Cassettes.
Remember those?
KTEL? You could do that.
You could do that.
KTEL Records and Tapes.
Yeah, we should put that together.
Al Green's greatest hits.
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So, we have one lone Executive producer, and that lone executive producer really belongs on show 1000, so we actually have none.
But because it came in when it did, we have one.
This is probably the worst donation day for the last two years.
I agree.
And almost, but it wasn't quite a day where we had no executive producers where we'd have to assign that job to the two of us.
But that's not...
We got one person with a check that came in the mail that saved the day.
Okay, good.
And it also made, you have to get your pen out because it also makes a couple of things we have to do here.
Okay.
This is $1,000 and $1,000 and $50 from John and Kelly Rudder.
And I'll read the note from Kelly.
I believe it's Kelly.
Okay.
Or John should take calligraphy because he writes like a girl.
My husband made a donation of $750 for the anniversary show through PayPal, but we have yet to see a charge.
This was the one that would make both John and my son-in-law, Jeremy, into InstaNights because this was the two-for-one era.
Wow.
So we have two knights that should be knighted.
Okay, so it's John Rudder.
And Jeremy Rudder.
Okay, two separate entries, though.
They both have even received their...
Oh, they already put the ring order in and got it.
So, yeah.
Great.
Maybe a little cross-referencing wouldn't be a bad thing.
So here is a check plus $300 to make them legit.
And do they have names?
NJNK. Sorry?
Excuse me, do they have names?
Do they have night names that they prefer?
No, no, no.
Okay, just sirs.
Yeah, NKNJ, God bless Sir John and Kelly.
All right.
Thanks for all your hard work.
And then he's attached to the stuff that we were having this confusion and And something, I think that somebody didn't hit the right button or something like that.
But the chick did come in.
So that, then she, or the two of them, John and Kelly will be the executive producers for show 1002.
And that's it.
That's all we got.
Man, when's the last time that you're right?
We almost didn't have an executive or an associate exec at all.
That hasn't happened for two years.
Really?
Two years?
All 27, didn't happen once in 2017.
It was quite nice.
Oh well.
Well, this is our value for value model.
This is how we do it.
Sometimes it's up, sometimes it's down.
That's just how we live.
And we always try to do the best that we can to bring you the value that you like.
And in return for that, people who are executive producers get mentioned right up front in the show, just like in Hollywood.
And the credits for both John and Jeremy are real credits.
You can use those, executive producer of Noah Jones.
John and Kelly.
John and Kelly.
Jeremy gets a nighthood.
Jeremy gets a nighthood.
You're right.
You can put that on your LinkedIn and anywhere else where credits are accepted and recognized.
And we highly appreciate that, so thank you.
And we'll be thanking a few more people later on as part of our second donation segment.
And, of course, a show coming up on Sunday.
I will be hurrying back on Friday after picking up my award here.
And we'll be back with the best podcast in the universe on Sunday.
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Go out there and propagate that formula!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Short and sweet.
It is nice for the flow of the show.
They saved the show.
Yes.
John and Kelly saved the show.
Saved the show.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you very much.
Let's see.
I have a couple of...
I have just a little compilage...
A little compilage collage, which I did not make.
Well, I have a compilage that I did not make, and I'll play it after your compilage that you did not make.
This is the M5M, who pretty much, in unison, agreed that Schumer caved on the shutdown.
And they kept using the word cave.
Did he cave?
Did he cave?
We know he caved.
He's just no good.
He caved.
Everybody was talking about it.
So the shutdown is effectively over because Democrats caved.
White House is taking a victory lap after Democrats in the Senate caved and voted to reopen the government.
They got a deal to make a deal, maybe.
Democrats, on Monday, after a three-day shutdown, have relented, accepted nearly all White House terms...
Guys, that's why the Democratic base is clearly worried that they are getting played.
Is this a good deal for Chuck Schumer?
No, it's a terrible deal.
It seemed like everybody was losing.
It seemed like Democrats maybe lost this fight.
Democrats lost the shutdown war.
Democrats wanted a deal on DACA, but all they got was a promise.
They are getting their butts kicked.
The truth is the Dems got spooked and the GOP got a boost.
The progressive groups are very unhappy.
But we know the DACA folks lost, Democrats lost.
The Democrats lost their leverage, at least in this next window, until the next shutdown.
Schumer's sellout.
The perception is he got ruled and the left is not happy.
I'm just not totally sure what Democrats got here.
Why did they shut down the government in the first place?
There is some anger on the left that the Democrats, in their mind, may have caved on this shutdown.
We are outraged that millions of people went out into the streets in support of Dreamers and Senate Democrats chose to vote against Dreamers.
Leader Schumer, what one thing did he get, you know, from Republicans to justify shutting down the government in the first place?
We agreed Democrats to fund the government through February 8th in exchange for a promise from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell that they would have a debate and a vote on DACA. In other words, for nothing.
People are saying Democrats caved and they surrendered.
A lot of your members say that Leader Schumer caved.
Did he?
Do you think Senator Chuck Schumer caved?
Did Senate Democrats cave?
Another Senate aide told NBC News, quote, we caved.
We lost.
If Democrats don't want to fight, then let's find some people who will.
Is it fair to say that the shutdown, the government shutdown, backfired for Democrats?
In Washington, there are winners and losers.
Democrats wanted a DACA fix.
They didn't get it.
The Democrats lost.
At no point did I hear anyone say the Republicans won, which I thought was kind of interesting.
Well, they don't want to do that.
Here's Schumer, quickly.
The reason the Republican majority had such difficulty finding consensus is they could never get a firm grip on what the president of their party wanted to do.
These days, you never know who to deal with when it comes to the Republicans.
President Trump turned away from not one, but two bipartisan compromises.
Each would have averted this shutdown.
President Trump's unwillingness to compromise caused the Trump shutdown and brought us to this moment.
The Trump shutdown will soon end, but the work must go on.
Yeah.
And it will.
He was fighting with this Trump shutdown meme against the media, Associated Press in particular.
He already called it.
Yeah.
They blamed it on the Democrats and they called the Schumer shutdown is what it became.
Yeah.
And so once he realized he'd lost the meme war.
Yeah.
He went to the Trump immediately because it was just going to get go bad.
Now, what do you think happened?
First of all, what they did, I think, is despicable because what they do, they just said, oh, we're going to we're going to keep it going until February 8th or something.
It's just it's just another do it again.
Yeah.
We'll go through this whole rigmarole again.
It's tiring people.
But the problem that you're also noticing is that with the propaganda machine out there, this DACA thing is an issue.
But they're making it a premature issue because, in fact, the DACA doesn't...
It doesn't expire until March.
Right.
So they can actually get a budget in place and then work on DACA after the fact because March is a ways off.
But if you listen to ABC and you listen to this this looming deadline, they make it sound as though the eighth is the DACA deadline.
Government shutdown now over after three days and costing the U.S. taxpayer millions.
And a reminder tonight that spending they agreed on only lasts about three weeks.
Then what?
Tonight, Democrats are demanding action on the dreamers and what they've now pulled from the table.
Here's ABC senior White House correspondent Cecilia Vega.
After sitting on the sidelines for much of the shutdown fight, today President Trump jumped back in the fray, but he would not promise that Washington will actually reach a deal to save the Dreamers by the looming deadline.
He tweeted, nobody knows for sure that the Republicans and Democrats will be able to reach a deal on DACA by February 8th, but everyone will be trying.
Lies!
Big lies!
ABC is becoming the worst.
They're a fake news operation.
Yes.
DACA does not expire on February 8th.
No.
I had a hard time.
You know I like Tucker Carlson.
I like watching him.
Although he's been very boring the past couple of months because he keeps asking his guests the same question.
It's like, why do you put immigrants before American citizens and it's only about votes?
The only about votes thing, I'm like, yeah, possibly.
I don't know.
I mean, our voting system definitely has holes in it.
Oh, we could probably use some comprehensive reform for that.
But when I heard Judge Napolitano talk about this new bill that is being introduced in the California government, I might be a believer now.
The proposal is that if you get a driver's license, you are automatically registered to vote.
Unfortunately, it is not unconstitutional.
It would be unconstitutional if, and this is very difficult to police, Stuart.
It's going to aggravate you.
It's impossible.
It would be unconstitutional if they permitted you to vote in a federal election, but it is not unconstitutional to vote in a state or local election.
So what happens when they're held at the same time, in the same booth, where you would vote for mayor of San Francisco and a local official, but also for president of the United States?
They are creating a monstrosity that will be impossible to surveil, impossible to enforce, and will result in rampant voter fraud.
For a long time I had a green card, and I never voted because I didn't think you were allowed to vote.
There is currently no state that permits that.
This proposal, which the Canada First Secretary of State, in my view, quite properly criticizes, would be the first in the Union where that would happen.
So let me get this straight.
You are an illegal in California.
Right.
You go to the DMV. I want a driver's license.
Right.
I need to get to work.
You get one.
When you get that, they propose that you automatically are registered to vote.
Yes.
And you could indeed vote in a local state election.
Yes.
Somehow they're going to have to distinguish...
Inside the ballot booth or have separate ballot booths for local and state and federal.
The next federal election is this year.
Yes.
In 2018.
I don't know when this thing is going to become law and what the lead time will be.
But if this does become law, you can bet it will be in place by the presidential election in 2020.
They're salivating over that in California.
Well, few things.
The presidential election in 2020, California's just going to vote for the Democrat.
It doesn't make any difference.
You just give those votes up, no matter whether they have this in place or not.
Because that's just the way it works.
Because they're not going to even let the Republicans come out here and speak.
Like they did with Trump.
They wouldn't let him speak.
He just gave up on the state.
And that's why he lost the popular vote, because California delivered 4 million more votes for Hillary.
Right, but dreamers are not just in California.
No, I know, but we're talking about California with the specifics.
Yes, true.
Another thing.
California just passed a bill about the next driver's license around is going to be real ID. Yeah.
I'm not sure you can give a real ID, which is a federal identification for...
It's an old story.
We talked about it from the beginning of the show.
A federal ID, just so he can get on an airplane.
I'm not sure that that will be applied to aliens, illegal immigrants.
I don't think they can get a real ID. Now, that would be interesting if they could.
And then the last thing, which is that It's going to create voter fraud because everyone's now registered to vote.
Just because you're registered to vote doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't mean you're going to go vote.
I would assume that we already have voter fraud in California.
I don't think it's to the tune of 4 million votes, but It's probably substantial in some areas.
Well, remember, we're all going to be talking about the, you know, we live in a democracy.
We no longer live in a republic.
The most votes wins.
You know, of course, it's not that way with the Electoral College.
That is not likely to change before the 2020 election.
No, it's not going to change for years.
It will be used and abused over and over again as the popular vote.
Yeah, no, the popular vote coming out of California will be used as leverage to get rid of the Electoral College at some point in the future.
The problem is it would have to be an amendment.
Yeah.
And I don't think the other smaller states are going to vote.
You need 75% of the states to agree on it.
They have to do a little convention and they vote.
I don't think they'd agree to it because it's like, why don't we just give the whole country over to California, whatever they say goes.
Yeah.
So the Electoral College, if you can't get rid of it in any other manner, I've always believed that it's the media that wants to get rid of it more than anybody else.
Because of the distribution of election funds.
Of money.
Of money.
Advertising money.
Yes.
So nobody's throwing their money at the San Francisco Chronicle for Hillary or Trump.
I agree with you on that.
Because it's just, why?
It's already a done deal.
Hillary won.
Why should we spend any advertising money with the Chronicle?
Now, on the deal, the deal that, you know, we don't really know what the deal is, but what we understand is, okay, we'll do something for the DACA kids, kids.
In return, funding for the wall, ending chain migration, which is an issue with or without DACA children.
And the third one is the diversity lottery.
What do you know about the – because I've looked all this up because it was bothering me because I know a number of people who have done the diversity lottery and have gotten in.
Yeah.
What do you think the requirements are?
What qualifications do you need?
I'll ask you that first, and then I'll tell you my conclusion.
What do you think you need to be in order to qualify for this lottery, which is like a game show?
I think you have to be literate to be able to fill out the form.
No.
No.
In fact, the diversity lottery should be done away with because it's racist.
Yeah, there's been arguments that it's racist.
You need a high school education.
Successful completion of a formal course of elementary and secondary education comparable to completion of a 12-year course in the United States.
If you are qualifying with work experience, you must have two years of experience in the last five years in an occupation which, by U.S. Department of Labor definitions, requires at least two years of training or experience that is designated as Job Zone 4 or 5, I can look that up for you, classified in a specific vocational preparation.
Some schmuck in some African country probably is not going to qualify.
Well, yeah.
And so what is the big deal with this lottery?
In fact, this is a merit-based system.
I don't understand why we'd do away with it.
This actually makes sense.
Hey, you want to come here?
You need at least high school, or if you're going to work, you need qualifying work experience.
What's the problem with it?
I don't think anyone's read this.
They're just talking crap about it.
I'm sure somebody's read it, and the other people have commented on the racist nature of it.
Just recently.
Okay.
But still, I mean, this is, to me, the lottery is the way it should be run.
There's probably some, I don't know what the counter-argument to that is.
There's none.
I don't think there's any counter-argument.
I don't think people have, no.
The people who are talking about this, the talking heads, they have no idea.
They haven't looked at it.
No, I'm sure that somebody who's looked at it has a counter-argument.
I'll have to dig it up.
Okay.
I was just surprised.
I thought this was like, hey, you just sign up, fill out the form, you're good to go.
No, you have to qualify.
It's still a lottery.
Yes, it's a lottery, but the qualifications are a merit-based system.
To join the lottery.
Why don't you just take people by merit and skip the lottery altogether?
Of course, of course.
But it's being portrayed as just a giveaway.
And it even has limits.
To terrorists.
Yes.
Well, terrorists go to school.
And it has limitations as to how many per country.
You know, certain countries are no longer eligible because they've already had their fill of, for instance, Canada.
No one from Canada can come in on the diversity lottery anymore because we've had too many of them.
Those Canadians are always taking advantage of us.
And you've still got to be up.
The list came out.
The top ten countries in the world.
Our foam finger is now eight fingers.
We're number eight.
Woo!
Eight for what?
We're number eight on the list of best countries in the world.
We've never been number one for best country.
Switzerland is number one.
Or happiest country.
No, certainly not happiest.
Switzerland is number one.
And number two is Scandinavia.
And then Germany.
Really?
I don't know.
These are bogus lists.
Yeah, they are.
But they're propagated by the M5M as if true.
I just thought the diversity lottery, I just thought that was an eye-opener.
I'm like, this is not a true giveaway, and it's not for everybody.
That's probably something that should be dropped from the debate.
I think the chain migration is an issue.
Yes.
And, uh...
Well, that's how I brought two people into legality.
Through marriage.
Yeah.
There's a funny show.
Did you ever watch this show?
I recommended it.
I stopped watching it.
I only watched a couple episodes.
But it seemed, by people in the biz, it seemed as one of the reality shows that people like.
Mm-hmm.
It's called Short 8 Days 3 Week Bride or something like that.
Tina and I watched that.
You told us to watch it.
I think it's 8 Week Bride.
Is that it?
Yeah, I think so.
8 Week Mate or something.
It's kind of funny.
All these reality shows are just so bogus.
They're not reality at all.
You've got a camera in your face and they're telling you what to say.
Yes.
And your point is?
Your point is bullcrap.
Your point would be, hmm.
You want to hear some bullcrap?
I got some bullcrap for you.
Here's Dan Rather.
Hello, I'm Dan Rather.
Hoping you'll join me Mondays at 5.30 Eastern for the news with Dan Rather at youtube.com slash theyoungturks.
The Young Turks?
Really?
Who would have thought it?
Dan Rather, joining the ranks of the Young Turks.
What?
Yeah, on YouTube.
They must have some money over there.
As far as I know, they do have money.
They have Soros money, I believe.
But that's really...
Yeah, he's doing a half-hour show.
That's the bottom of the barrel, as far as I'm concerned, going to Young Turks.
That's worse than podcasting.
I think it's below podcasting.
It's the lowest rung.
If you thought that podcasting was the lowest rung on the show business ladder, oh no, ladies and gentlemen, the Young Turks on YouTube, that would be one rung lower.
You're pretty much slipping off into the abyss after that.
Poor Dan.
You know, because Dan Rather was kind of supported, the way I would put it.
With a good income and a decent operation, a good show on HDTV or whatever it's called.
Yeah, the Cubans thing.
Mark Cuban's operation.
He's got two televisions.
Networks or whatever.
Stations is what they amount to, but they're on the dish and they're on the cable.
I forget the name of them.
HDTV or something.
Yeah, I think it was HDTV. They've changed the name of one of them, but they both came on early in the whole...
HGTV era, and he wanted to promote the idea of HGTV, so he started a little station slash network.
And I do have an issue with tech TV. When I was there, they always like to call it a network.
Yeah.
It's a station that happens to be on the cable.
It's not a network.
Where do you get network?
I don't understand this.
HGTV, Home and Garden Television.
They'll call that a network.
It's not a network.
It's a show.
Or it's not a show.
It's a series of shows on one station.
Well, you're kind of nitpicking on that.
Where does a network moniker come in?
I don't get it.
I understand.
But it's, you know, yeah.
It just sounds good.
It sounds official.
Okay.
Well, anyway, I said I was going to follow up your thing with another one.
Jimmy Fallon, they have a lot of guys.
All these shows have so many producers and people working for them.
We have a lot of volunteers.
But we'd never be able to put something like this together.
It would take forever.
And they run this maybe about once a week, where they take a bunch of just words in the news, and then they make it into a long poem.
And it requires both the writing of the poem, and then finding these clips, putting them together, and then having kind of a...
I imagine it takes days.
Can I go?
It's something we call This Week in Words.
I hope you enjoy it.
Doctors visit for Trump himself.
They check the president's mental and physical health.
He has incredibly good genes, but no self-control.
There's a beautiful country, which he just called a ****hole.
America is open for everyone.
We shouldn't treat people based on where they come from.
Certain countries other than Norway.
The ****holes, as our president likes to say.
Global outrage on a daily basis.
Donald Trump is not a racist.
Big denial.
Trump doth protest.
People are judged by who they are.
I made a six-figure payment to silence a port star.
Hush money.
The associate doesn't speak.
It's not even the craziest thing that's happened this week.
Hawaii panicked.
Disconcerned after that incoming ballistic missile alert.
There was a flaw in Hawaii's emergency plan.
Someone pushed the wrong button.
Some crazy stuff, man.
We have a great show!
Damn, that's good.
The cadence and everything.
That's phenomenal.
That's really good.
That has got to be a full-time job almost, just making those things.
And it brought up two topics, because we have something new in the Trump rotation.
Well, before you go to the Trump rotation, I do want to mention something that was in that clip set.
They had a four-box at one of the clips where he says, I'm the least racist person you'll ever meet.
Yeah.
And it was four Trumps, all different moments, saying the exact same thing in the exact same cadence.
It was just like this boom, like a robot.
It was great.
Damn.
Yeah, I've got to see the video of that.
Yes, in rotation, and I think this is about to pop.
Okay.
What did we learn from the rear admiral, his doctor?
We learned that...
Well, we know that he takes Propecia, and we know that that might have been an issue with the Sudafed or whatever he was given.
But no, no, no, no.
That's not it.
I can tell you why the president's crazy.
This is from Scientific American.
Headline.
Oh, yeah.
It's not dementia.
It's your heart medication.
Cholesterol drugs and memory.
Why cholesterol drugs might affect memory.
And there's this whole rundown that's in the show notes.
He takes Crestor.
He takes Crestor, yes sir.
Cholesterol-lowering statins such as Lipitor, Crestor, and Zocor are the most widely prescribed medications in the world.
And although they're credited with saving millions of lives, they can severely affect your mental well-being.
Surprise, surprise.
Isn't everything from big pharma, isn't there always a possibility of you dying from it or at least getting some anal leakage?
But I think that this will be up next in the rotation.
It's his crest door.
That's making him crazy.
Well, I'm going to disagree with that.
Okay.
Why?
Because it's Big Pharma.
I think that...
Big Pharma's not going to let anybody say that.
Well, it's mostly the mainstream media that is promoting the rotation.
Mainstream media needs Big Pharma.
I understand what you're saying, but politicians, I think they will go as far as they can and they will take on Big Pharma if they think it can get rid of Trump.
They get tons of money from Big Pharma?
No.
We'll see.
You just threw out a good thing that could go in the rotation, possibly.
It just went down into a whirlpool, down into a black hole.
It just dissolved.
Down the drain.
Cosmos.
Down the drain, yeah.
Down the drain.
Well, I wanted to bring it to your attention because, you know, Scientific American, you know, Don't they also claim that steel melts with jet fuel?
Scientific American.
Same guys, right?
Used to be this really good science magazine.
And then it got taken over by some editors and some people with a political agenda.
And it's been agendized.
And so it's not really respected as much as it used to be in the 70s and 80s, let's say.
60s and 70s in particular.
Right.
Well, we'll see.
I mean, we'll see if the story gets any legs at all, because you're right.
I don't have this from mainstream news media.
They have certainly not reported on it.
You conjured it up.
I didn't conjure it up.
No, I mean, you read that there, and you said, aha, you had an aha moment?
Yeah.
Without thinking that...
No, I thought about it, because I'm always thinking about big pharma.
I did think about it, but I thought, you know, we'll see.
We'll see.
I made a list the other day.
I should go print this list out, and we'll talk maybe on the next show.
I made this list of all the...
Trump rotation stuff from the list that we had.
I added some new stuff.
And I've decided that this...
I'm going to write maybe a little bit on this in the next newsletter or somewhere.
I've decided there's so many items on the list.
And it's so long.
And they can't keep track of which one's in play.
It's a mess.
They can't add any more stuff to the list because they've already got too much stuff on the list.
So that's another reason I'm not going to suspect.
That's why they rotate it.
They don't do a very good job, I've decided.
And could you tell me what they do a good job of?
Lying.
Exactly.
Oh, speaking of lying.
Oh, man.
I just got to stay on this story because I think we still haven't seen the end of it.
Hawaii's governor made an embarrassing confession in the wake of the false missile alert that sparked widespread panic.
Governor David Ige says he knew that the alert was a mistake two minutes after it was sent, but he could not tell the public right away because he forgot his Twitter password.
Womp womp.
Telling the Honolulu Star advertiser, quote, I have to confess that I don't know my Twitter account logons and the passwords, so certainly that's one of the changes that I've made.
I've been putting that on my phone so that we can access the social media directly.
There had been growing questions since the false alert on January 13th when the governor was noticeably silent for 17 minutes.
This answers that question of silence.
Governor Ige says he was making calls to the emergency management teams during that time.
Lies.
So he knew within two minutes, he knew it was a fake warning, but he couldn't communicate that through Twitter, which is how you do it, because he didn't have his password.
No one could do, and no one could do anything.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Only he could do it.
Which just...
Wait, wait, wait.
It just strengthens my theory that this might have been a hack, because I think they were locked out.
Actually, we got a note from a dude named Ben, anonymous dude named Ben, who said, I worked for FEMA's IT department during Katrina.
The password requirements for many government systems are ridiculous.
High minimum character count, a number, a symbol, minimum two uppercase, two lowercase characters, and the password is very often generated for you and unable to be changed.
This of course means nobody can remember the password.
I took quite a lot of forgot my password tickets.
Out responding to other tickets, I saw passwords on Post-it stuck to monitors very frequently.
The other one is under the keyboard or pasted to the back of the keyboard.
Next most common is inside the main desk drawer.
There's no password security.
And FEMA's filled with fairly clueless boneheads.
I had to clean a bunch of malware off one guy's computer because he'd been looking at porn.
Even saw a DOJ employee who was staging there for a few weeks with a password posted on the monitor.
You'd think those guys would really know better.
Bottom line, if someone has access to the building, they can have a field day on the emergency management networks of just about any government agency, I'm pretty sure.
Visiting local emergency management centers while covering Ivan for the year before that, I saw that most of their employees were anything but tech-savvy and made the FEMA crew look like savants.
I'm sure the human side of their InfoSec was and still is absolutely piss poor.
Thank you very much, dude named Ben.
And I will say that there was, you know who was in the facility just hours before that alarm went off?
Because we played the clip.
CNN. CNN. Some CNN goofball did.
Could be.
Could be.
If they were just sitting there, CNN was in the building filming.
Hours before this happened.
And we have a picture, phony or not, but it does corroborate what our specialist here says, that passwords are just everywhere.
They're useless.
It's a bad technology.
I don't know what you're going to do about it.
That's not my point.
Okay.
But the story is full of holes.
Yeah, it is.
Well, I think the thing that kind of overshadowed is the tsunami warning.
Yeah, that was great.
Which I have a question about.
So here's Play the Clip tsunami question.
People in Alaska were jolted awake overnight by a powerful earthquake in the Gulf of Alaska and sirens warning of a possible tsunami.
Jamie Ucas is in Anchorage tonight.
Oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
First came the shaking, then a dire warning.
Oh!
The magnitude 7.9 earthquake struck a half hour past midnight, well off the Alaska coast.
The quake itself, far enough away not to cause major damage, but in the worst spot for a potential tsunami.
Attention!
A tsunami warning!
Within minutes, the roads in the seaside town of Kodiak, Alaska, were filled with cars heading to higher ground.
This is not a drill.
This is an actual tsunami warning.
That warning covered not only most of coastal Alaska, but also the entire coast of British Columbia.
Tsunami watches were posted from Washington State to California, and even Hawaii, and as far away as American Samoa.
For two harrowing pitch-black hours, many braced for the worst.
But by 4 a.m., less than four hours after the quake hit, all warnings were lifted.
The only tsunami?
An eight-inch wave in Kodiak.
Still, almost every Alaskan felt the initial jolt.
It just kept going and going and going and going.
An eight-inch wave?
How'd they measure that?
How did you even know it was a tsunami?
It was completely calm, and the buoy went up by eight inches.
Woo!
Now, a couple of things.
First of all, just as an aside, at the beginning of that clip, you hear somebody say, oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
Yeah.
Of course, oh my gosh.
And you see, let me play a little piece of something that was the ABC report.
This is from ABC. Play the OMG earthquake ISO. Oh, sorry.
I dumped it instead of playing it.
Oops, here we go.
Oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
It's the same clip.
Really?
It's the same clip as CBS played.
Huh.
So where did that come from?
It must have come from YouTube, I'm guessing.
And what it was, was a woman saying, oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
And she's got a camera that's aimed at her wall.
Why this camera's running, I don't know.
It's aimed at her wall and the mirror is wiggling a little bit.
Oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
Oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
That sounds like something from a TV movie.
From TV. That sounds acted.
It sounds...
That's because I believe it is.
And both the networks use that.
I don't know if NBC used it or not.
Let me hear it in the original report.
People in Alaska...
Was in the beginning?
Was in the beginning of the report?
Yes, it's very close to the beginning.
...by a powerful earthquake in the Gulf of Alaska and sirens warning of a possible tsunami.
Jamie Ucas is in Anchorage tonight.
Oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
First came the shaking, then a...
Yep.
Let me see.
Where could that have come from?
Well, let me say a couple of things.
I think this is an opportunity for anybody.
I was looking around the room here and I've got a couple of lamps.
You could take your camera and shoot a picture, show the lamp, just show the lamp, and shake it with your fist.
I know where you're going with this.
At the bottom, where your hand's not visible, you shake it real hard and go, oh my gosh, it's an earthquake!
Oh my gosh, it's an earthquake.
Yeah, you can get on TV. And post it on YouTube, and you'll get on TV. I'll do it in Austin next time there's an earthquake.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's funny.
It was bull crap.
The other thing...
Go ahead.
I'm saying both those networks used it, and I think it's been used elsewhere.
Let's find out where that's from.
That really sounds like it's from some TV drama.
I think it's maybe.
It could be.
But it was really lame.
The amount of wiggling that the mirror made was nil.
Just a little bit.
By the way, she specifically, normally people say, shit, it's an earthquake!
But no, she was calm.
She said, oh my gosh.
And she didn't say God.
She said, gosh.
Oh my gosh.
It's an earthquake.
To make sure it got on somewhere.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Interesting.
Also, once again, they say, this is not a drill.
Now, I don't understand.
A tsunami is not a military action.
If you look up the etymology of drill, and you look up the definition, it specifically is a military-type action.
It is not a natural disaster.
So, appropriate would be the word, this is not a test of the system, but to keep saying this is not a drill...
I can't tell you why exactly, but besides that, I think it's incorrect, and I know the standards and practices says you shouldn't do that.
But is this the total militarization, where just everything is a drill, everything is military?
Well, it's fucked.
You answered your own question.
Yeah.
Well, it's no good.
This is not a drill.
No, it's not a drill.
Of course it's not a drill.
It's a natural disaster.
It's not a drill.
So here's the big question I have about this event.
Didn't we just drop millions and millions of dollars for these tsunami buoys that are supposed to be all over the place where there's big quakes and the tsunami buoy is going to bounce around and it's going to tell us if there's a real tsunami?
Yes.
Don't you remember this discussion of these tsunami buoys and the tsunami early warning system?
Yeah.
Let me see.
Where is that in play?
That's a good question.
Yeah, you got an eight-inch bump.
Do we have a clip of that?
Well, I thought I might have a clip of that, but I don't.
We might have a clip of it somewhere, but we all know about it because we've heard, oh, I got to that big whopper that took place in wherever it was in Thailand.
Japan.
Oh, you mean that?
Yeah.
Oh, the Japan one, too, but the other one, the earthquake one.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, they got the buoys, the early warning system.
We got tsunami buoys all over the place.
If there's a tsunami, we're going to know about it.
And you would know about it hours in advance.
But no, they jumped the gun right away.
To hell with that.
If it's even existing, it probably doesn't even work.
And just made this announcement immediately.
Not a drill.
Hmm.
So I found this to be sketchy because...
We need to give you a staff.
You need a staff of journos to go out and investigate this stuff.
There's been too many of these little, you know, phony announcements.
There was one, I think, besides the one that you cited earlier with the...
Hawaii missile coming in, and you got this tsunami alert.
There was a couple other ones, too.
It's like they're trying to scare the public.
They get no other way of scaring.
Or having the CDC or somebody warning us about a nuclear explosion in the East Coast.
There's too much of this.
What is going on?
Well, I think the Lear Foundation is at it again.
I think we caught them.
Yes.
But maybe not the Lear Foundation.
Maybe it's just direct funding.
That's also possible.
The Oscars came out, or the Oscar nominees, and the movie Get Out is nominated.
It's a comedy, by the way, in case you didn't know.
It was sold to me as a comedy.
It was sold to me as a comedy.
I think it is a comedy.
Peel is the guy.
He's a comedian.
Well, this clip is about Peel.
Hmm.
Near the beginning of Get Out, one of the main supporting characters takes a smoke break outside an airport.
He's wearing the blue uniform of the Transportation Security Administration, and he's chatting on the phone.
How can I get in trouble for patting down an old lady?
No spoilers, but this TSA officer will become incredibly heroic.
He's the first to realize bad things are happening to the hero, and he rushes to the police.
This dude been missing for six months, right?
So I do all my research, you know, because as a TSA agent, you know, you guys are detectives.
I got the same training, you know.
We might know more than y'all sometimes.
All this raised a question.
What did real TSA officers think of the film?
It made me proud.
Shekinah Givens has worked for the TSA in Atlanta, Georgia for almost 10 years.
She loved this character in Get Out.
He took his job seriously.
There was pride in what he did.
There wasn't a mockery made of him.
Givens is used to seeing her profession maligned.
Off the top of her head, she rattles off numerous commercials where TSA officers are irritants, incompetents, or perverts.
In this commercial for Lint Chocolate, two female officers pat down a handsome man.
I think we should do a strip search.
Excuse me?
Definitely.
Definitely strip search.
So if you could take off your pants, turn around.
Pictures like these, says Givens, do not make it easier to deal with the thousands of stressed-out passengers she helps every day and who often treat her and her colleagues with disrespect.
But Victor Pius Martinez says Get Out has actually changed that to an extent.
He's a TSA officer in Los Angeles.
I definitely think we've had an increase of passengers making reference to the movie and open up some people to say, hey, you know what, these guys aren't so bad.
Unsurprisingly, Get Out has led to numerous in-jokes among TSA officers themselves.
There's a memorable catchphrase spoken by their on-screen brother in blue, and warning, it is blue.
I don't think I can say it on here, but yes, that's definitely something that's caught on.
I'm T.S. Motherf***ing A. TSA officers like Martinez are among the lowest-paid federal employees.
They routinely deal with travelers showing up with loaded guns or people in the midst of crises.
During the government shutdown, they're required to come to work, but no one pays them until the shutdown is over.
So, was this funded by TSA, this movie?
Is this just a storyline that was put in to humanize?
I mean, listen to this.
This is an NPR follow-up story.
The whole thing was six minutes about how great the TSA is.
Well, I would say it's not unlikely.
I mean, Peel, this is a first-time director.
Yeah.
And a kind of a, you know, not a normal movie.
Right.
And it's, you need a lot of fun, you need funding to make any of these movies, even though it's low budget, it's a low budget film, but you need money, and you gotta get it from somewhere, and it's, and these guys, Peel and his partner, are so creative that they could work, you wanna give us money, you want the TSA to look good, we can do it.
They're like a couple of guys that can probably do propaganda.
Yeah.
That's what I'd make them do if I had them working in the government.
And so, yeah, I think it's well within the realm of possibility.
It's funny.
Yeah.
And then it worked.
It worked.
I like that the TSA people love it.
Like, oh, it makes us look great.
Fine.
I'm sorry.
That's definitely not Lear.
No, no.
I take that back.
But I think that funding may have come from them.
Yeah, exactly the way you describe it.
Like, yeah, we'll do it for you.
I should have played this clip just before I played this one.
This was the BBC about the Alaska quake.
And it's actually pretty funny because they bring in our favorite guy, Michu Kaku.
Oh, that guy.
This red guy.
Oh, it sounds like shit.
Forget about it.
Never mind.
But that does sound bad.
Yeah, it sounded bad.
Well, just to summarize, what did he say?
Well, he kept saying, you know, we don't know how they...
We have no idea how earthquakes take place.
I'm like, really?
I'm pretty sure solar rays has a lot to do with it.
Let's put it this way.
There's a very definite correlation.
I have that earthquake prediction app, the disaster app.
Whenever there's a coronal injection, they warn you, and then boom.
Two days later you get...
Boom, count one.
Two days later you get an earthquake with associated tsunami.
But the BBC, this poor lady at the end, she kept trying to do it.
She really wanted to know if climate change was responsible for the earthquakes.
But sadly the clip is just not good enough to play.
Oh, that's too bad.
But...
Global warming is responsible for something else.
Is global warming causing goats to shrink?
That's what researchers from the UK's Durham University are claiming.
Researchers say smaller goats are evidence that global warming is impacting animal size.
Durham researchers studied the body size of alpine chamois mountain goats over three decades and found that young chamois today weigh 25% less than their peers did in the 1980s.
Researchers linked shrinking body sizes to increasing temperatures.
Goats shrinking due to climate change.
Wow.
See, this is the problem with the climate change advocates.
They're reaching for all kinds of crazy stuff, and it just doesn't make any sense.
And it's a 30-year study, so what?
Right.
I like it, though.
I got a couple of things here I want to play off.
Let's discuss a little bit about these poor gymnasts who were not talked about.
I have been skipping that story because it's just, you know, I got a daughter, man.
I can't look at it.
It just makes me mad.
So this guy now, this is a little angle.
This is a newer angle.
Obviously, most people know about the story.
This doctor that worked for Michigan State University and also the U.S. Olympics gymnast organization.
It was a pervert who had defiled all these little girls that were gymnasts, and, you know, gymnasts, wannabes, and superstar champions, and they finally busted him after all these years.
And when we say after all these years, this was going on in the 90s.
Yeah, it's nuts.
And then you'd have to start looking at the complicity element, which is not really discussed enough by these people.
Carping women who have the Women's March and all the rest of it.
And by that I mean the Harvey Weinstein thing.
There's two stories in particular.
One, a talent agent sends the poor girl up to meet Harvey Weinstein in his hotel.
The talent agent is a woman.
She knows what's going on.
She does this.
Incident number two is that one of the actresses, I think it was Gwyneth, Paltrow or somebody at that level said she wasn't going to go up there unless her agent which was also a woman went up with her and we have the clip somewhere and we don't need to play it but she goes up with the agent Harvey comes out in his bathrobe and glares at the woman for showing up.
Wait, do we need to play our jingle?
And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
I think so.
So let's listen to this story about Michigan State University and Two anecdotes amongst all these women they collected.
I think this was on CBS. Not sure.
But this is Nassar MSU 1.
I'm possibly the last child he will ever assault.
15-year-old Emma Ann Miller was one of the youngest people to read her statement.
She saw Nassar monthly for five years.
MSU Sports Medicine charged me for those appointments.
My mom is still getting billed for appointments where I was sexually assaulted.
Today, a Michigan State University spokesperson said patients of Nassar will not be billed.
MSU has been criticized for their handling of complaints against Nassar.
This one I wanted to separate out because they were billing the girls?
I guess.
You're on an athletic program for a university and you're getting billed for the normal...
Medical guy that's there, just supposed to check you out to make sure you're healthy?
I don't know.
This is beyond me.
And they're still getting billed, apparently.
Even though they say they're not going to get billed.
Okay, so this is the clip, too, is the one that's got the important info.
MSU has been criticized for their handling of complaints against Nassar.
We sat down with four athletes treated at MSU, among the survivors providing victim statements during Nassar's sentencing hearing.
Gymnast Larissa Boyce says in 1997, when she was 16, she complained to MSU coach Kathy Clagus that she suspected Nassar was abusing her.
Kathy came back in the room and said, well I can file something, but there's going to be very serious consequences for both you and Dr.
Nassar.
And I said, well I don't want to get anybody in trouble.
I just felt humiliated.
I felt silenced.
I felt embarrassed.
George Clagas was suspended and then resigned from MSU last February.
Her lawyers declined to respond to CBS News, citing ongoing litigation.
Our stories are so eerily similar.
Like, it makes my chest hurt.
Tiffany Thomas Lopez played softball for MSU. She says she was abused by Nassar from 1999 to 2001 following a back injury and that she complained to an MSU athletic trainer.
She says, you're going to make a lot of people uncomfortable.
You can do this.
You know, she made sure to tell me, like, you can do this.
You can file a complaint.
Like, this is going to be big news.
What's going to happen to him?
That's what it was just all about.
Like, you know, yeah.
In 2017, MSU police did an investigation into Nassar.
In their report, they say that the MSU trainer said she has never had an athlete tell her that Nassar made them uncomfortable.
Back in 2014, an MSU investigation into a complaint against Nassar cleared him of sexual harassment.
It led to guidelines that included having someone in the room and little to no skin-to-skin contact in sensitive areas.
After then, MSU police say at least 12 assaults by Nassar were reported.
Still just stunning details coming out on this.
John LaPook, thank you very much.
So even though we need to remind ourselves that it was a man who abused these girls, it does stick out like a sore thumb that there's women at every intersection of this type of abuse who are condoning it, not reporting it, and maybe even trying to suppress any reporting not reporting it, and maybe even trying to suppress any reporting of these I think there's a genuine hatred between some of these female coaches and the girls.
No.
Nope.
There is hatred.
No?
Okay.
Go ahead.
I'll tell you why I think that.
It's because if you look at the girls, they're all these cuties, you know, they're gymnasts.
And you got the one coach they showed.
She's a very large woman that looks mean and she looks like a lesbian to me.
John at Dvorak.org.
Yes.
And she does.
And she just looks resentful.
She looks totally resentful as far as I think the way some of these coaches think about it.
Hey, so what?
How can that be?
That's not, that can't, as we heard from a woman herself, if women were running everything, it would be much better.
The last thing I want to do is put myself in a position to appear to defend Al Franken, whom I know well and have never cared for.
Don't think he was a good senator, think he's kind of creepy.
This is all plausible as far as I'm concerned.
But I'm very struck by a couple of things, and one is the pivot that the entire Democratic conference in the Senate seems to have made.
A year and a half ago, they were defending Hillary Clinton, who everyone knows attacked.
Sorry, I should have forwarded, too.
I didn't know where I was coming up here.
She attacked them, belittled them, and they were defending her.
And today they're saying, on the basis of anonymous accusations, that they can't even bear to serve without Franken.
Where were they a year and a half ago?
Okay, so there's a couple things wrong with that statement.
First, I think we can all agree that we'd be better off if the women were in charge.
There you go.
We can all agree on this.
It'd be much better if women were in charge.
In the case of these poor little athletes, the women were in charge.
And I'm going to tell you that this is...
The reason why I'm disagreeing with you, although I didn't know about the physical differences, which could be something that would irritate someone...
Women are mean to each other.
And I brought this up before with the whole Today Show thing.
This is expanded and women are calling each other names now on television.
This is this rift between Megyn Kelly and Hoda.
Yes.
And this is just ongoing.
So Ann Curry, not related, she was...
And she's with the Today Show now, which made it even more awkward this conversation came up, on The View...
She is sitting on The View, and listen to this exchange.
She's mentioned Jane has several places.
Now, how uncomfortable that was.
But yesterday, Maiden Kelly defended herself.
She said Fonda's been very candid about her surgery in the past.
This is about the Jane Fonda and the plastic surgery comment.
Right, the facelift stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she didn't stop there.
Take a look.
I have no regrets about that question.
Nor am I in the market for a lesson from Jane Fonda on what is and is not appropriate.
After all, this is a woman whose name is synonymous with outrage.
Look at her treatment of our military during the Vietnam War.
Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane.
Thanks to her radio broadcast, which attempted to shame American troops.
She put her plastic surgery out there.
She said she wanted to discuss the plate of older women in America.
And honestly, she has no business lecturing anyone on what qualifies as offensive.
Nor do you.
Wow.
Nor do you.
I mean, really.
I mean, yeah.
Do you want to talk about...
To drag the Vietnam War into a plastic surgery conversation is a real stretch, Megan, okay?
And also, why are people more angry with Jane Fonda about the Vietnam War than they are with Nixon and LBJ and people who lied about the war and sent boys as cannon fodder to that unjust and filthy war?
Well, what bothered me is, you know, I've never seen a journalist do something like that.
Who's the journalist?
Well, not anymore.
Who's the journalist?
The reason you don't see it is because journalists are not supposed to be the story.
We're supposed to be, and it's a struggle, I think, for everyone to be, but we're supposed to be humble.
We're supposed to use whatever time we're given to shine a light on other stories.
I mean, there are so many stories that we're not covering, and to take time.
There you go.
There you go.
Women are no better or worse than men.
Clip of the day.
Oh, wow.
Wasn't even expecting it.
Thank you very much.
Clip of the day.
I'll tell you.
Adam Curry's rule, women don't suck.
Men don't suck.
People suck.
They just suck.
But this is horrible.
These women are calling each other bitch on television now.
That was terrible.
That's uncalled for.
First of all, they go off on her, and then they go off on her worse than she goes off on Jane.
Kind of exaggerating.
Even saying, who's the journalist?
And who's the bitch?
No, that was a horrendous exhibition right there.
I don't know if I can see why you're not backing me up on what I think is going on with these athletes.
No, I agree.
I agree with that part, but I'm just saying there's something else going on.
Yeah, there's that too.
Because we had the Women's March and everyone's great and it's all fantastic and more women than ever.
Women should be everywhere.
Davo, it's like all women, everywhere is women.
But you're no better than men.
You're just as shitty as we are.
Well, in the case of these poor athletes, the women coaches and trainers should be ashamed of themselves and also should be the people that brought everybody to Harvey Weinstein on a silver platter.
They were all women, mostly.
I guess you could say that you saw, I haven't seen the movie, but I guess you could say the same for the elitist skating organization, I, Tonya.
Wasn't that also Women Hating Women?
It's kind of a comedy.
It's mom-hating women.
Yeah, it was a lot of women-hating women, definitely.
But it was in the competition thing, and you don't think as much of it.
I'm just disappointed, because I really want to see it.
I really want to see it.
I would like the days of Cleopatra.
Hey, I'll just look good and serve you.
Fine, you take care of me, I'll just service you.
I'm looking forward to those days, but women can't do it?
So, it looks like...
No, they can't.
I don't think they necessarily want to.
Shoot.
Well, if you listen to mainstream media, you'd think differently.
Well, mainstream media wants to, but I don't think, generally speaking, women are that nuts about the idea.
I wanted just to change topics completely.
I finally got something here that dawned on me what might be going on with this.
This is the guy, this is a newscaster pronouncing Putin.
Okay.
Play.
Like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin expressed admiration for each other today while also promising to build up their country's nuclear arsenals.
Putin.
Yeah.
Yeah, but that was the girl from RT used to say Putin.
Putin.
Yeah.
I think that this is not a bad way to go if you want to use associative thinking.
Every time I hear Putin, I say, what does that remind me?
It reminds me of Rasputin.
Putin!
Yeah.
Rasputin, an evil character.
If you want to do the association, everybody knows Rasputin.
I mean, not some youngers, but yes, Rasputin.
So start calling him Putin, and it'll start to associate with Rasputin.
That's the way to ruin the guy.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Rasputin.
Yeah, I like that.
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You weren't there, were you?
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Theodorable, he was there.
Nobody...
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I did not get pre-check, of course.
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Shout out to the No Agenda Facebag group.
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Yes, yes, and yes?
I got a couple things here.
I got a couple things.
I have minor things.
I got some minor things.
All right.
Let's get out of the way just so we don't get them off this list.
Okay, then.
Go for minor things.
I want to play the oil report because I don't think people realize what's going on here.
America this year could become the world's leading oil producer.
The International Energy Agency predicts the U.S. will hit historic highs, topping 10 million barrels a day.
That would overtake oil giants Saudi Arabia and Russia, which have agreed to limit production to keep prices up.
Is this really true?
Yeah.
Is that all the shale?
Yeah, because of the gas.
It's because of the gas.
Yeah.
Now, the thing that's interesting is that we start to see some evidence now that the Russians have been interfering, and there's some reports out there that the Russians have been putting a lot of money into the anti-fracking people.
Oh, really?
Huh.
Sierra Club on down that are against fracking.
The Russians are financing a lot of this.
With bots?
Not Soros, the Russians.
With bots?
Think about it.
Why?
Why would they do that?
Yes.
Makes nothing but sense to me.
Yeah, with bots.
So wait a minute.
So when it comes to this type of propaganda, they're not doing it on Twitter.
I don't see any of this on Twitter.
No, they're not doing anything.
They're not doing propaganda.
They're giving money away.
But that's my point.
When they really want to do something, they don't put stupid bots on Twitter.
Exactly.
They give money to people.
And where's mine?
Where's your money?
Where's my money?
Where's my money?
Here's how the West does it with Russia.
We like to do real propaganda and really piss them off.
Russia has cancelled the release of the black comedy Death of Stalin after officials and top art figures labelled it offensive and extremist.
The release of the film had already been postponed to avoid it clashing with the 75th anniversary of the end of the Battle of Stalingrad.
Undoubtedly, such a film should not be on the screens of our country because in the first place it insults our people in general, not just those who lived at the time, those people featured as characters of this film, but even, for instance, you and me.
The film from British director Armando Iannucci focuses on the infighting of the Soviet leader's closest allies immediately after his death.
Russia's Communist Party called it a form of psychological pressure against the country.
After its preview, a letter was sent to the culture minister urging him to check if it broke any Russian laws.
The comedy is all about what's going on inside the Kremlin, the power struggle, you know, the frantic fight for survival, really.
That's where the comedy comes, and the paranoia that's going on as well.
The death of Stalin, which was released in the UK in October, picked up for British Independent Film Awards last year.
I like it.
I gotta see this movie now.
Psychological pressure.
It was a PSYOP! And it's a comedy about Stalin's death?
Yeah.
Little brother.
The little bits I saw looked reasonably funny.
I didn't see it listed as an Academy Award nominee for Best Foreign Film.
Have you looked at all the nominees?
I have not.
Pretty much, yeah.
I've checked that list a couple of times.
Who's the big favorite?
It depends on how it's going to go.
If you looked at the way that the Golden Globes and the SAG Awards went, it's probably going to go toward...
Either the Billboard movie, because what's such a good actress?
Well, she's not acting.
She's crazy.
Yeah, I know.
She is nuts.
I like her a lot, though.
She's really...
You know what?
That's someone you want to...
She's been doing a lot of Broadway.
She's been doing a lot of Broadway work, too, and she seems like she's borderline nuts.
You want to have a beer with that woman.
And then, of course, the other good actress is the one who plays Tanya Harding's mom.
And I don't think anyone can beat that performance.
The male, it looks like it's going to be, again, it's going to be Gary Oldman, who became Winston Churchill.
Yeah, that was very good.
The one who wins the best movie, it's really up for grabs, but the best, I was hoping to see, and I know it's not going to happen, but he did.
Puts on such a great performance, generally speaking, is Christopher Plummer.
I mean, this guy is just fun to watch.
But he's nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but there's no way, because I said, well, he should win.
There's no way he's going to win the award.
It's politically incorrect to give him that award, because he did the whole movie in nine days.
Oh, he didn't really work.
Well, he did work.
He knows what he's doing.
No, no, that's not like a thespian.
Yeah, he has to work harder.
So he replaced Kevin Spacey.
Nine days of reshoots.
Nine days of shooting.
How come we never heard how much money he made?
Nobody's talking.
Well, I do know this.
The whole reshoot was $10.5 million.
So I assume they gave him a couple mil.
Must.
Must.
But no one talked about that.
But it was only nine days work.
Yeah, he's not going to get an award because he didn't work hard enough.
And I believe that.
I think you're right.
Yeah, no, I'm totally right.
And then the director made the comment that he comes walking in, this is like the Krusty the Clown thing where he comes in and he's in, I'm in and I'm out.
And he comes in and he says, would you like to see the Kevin Spacey performances that you'll be replacing?
And Plummer says, nope.
Yeah.
Well, rightly so.
Just give me the script.
Let's go.
Cool.
That guy's cool.
He's like Honey Badger.
But again, no chance of winning anything.
Nine days, it's going to be...
No, no, no.
It shakes things up.
We didn't even talk about it.
There really wasn't anything to talk about.
I watched the SAG-AFTRA Awards.
Yeah, I did too.
Boring.
Yeah, I thought that Kirsten was...
I loved her.
I thought she was great.
She's very funny.
Great job.
Yeah, she did a good job, but again, you're right.
And I think everyone was so disappointed about Morgan Freeman.
There was God.
God should have denounced Trump and said something about...
He just made...
His little last joke at the end was, you know, the statue is clearly a guy, so it should be more gender non-conforming or some shit like that.
You know?
It was...
Gender non-conforming.
Yeah!
Didn't he say that?
Yeah, something like that.
It was just boring.
And I think ratings were down for it anyway.
The ratings are down.
Television is going away.
It's over.
The show was never a big ratings grabber.
No.
Yeah.
It was just really boring.
They shouldn't even put it on TV. TNT is where it belongs, honestly.
It's a network, you know.
Yeah, network.
I want to ask you how this works.
I'm interested about this kind of thing because I eat a lot of sushi.
I want to get into another subject for you because this is something that stood out for me.
There's a story that's a bit stomach-churning and people may not sleep well at night when they get into this story, but a Fresno man out in California, he was a lover of salmon sushi.
He ended up playing a five and a half foot long tapeworm out of his own body I then took it to the hospital.
First question, we mentioned sushi.
Could this be a problem with sushi?
The report goes on.
It sounds like crap.
So a five-foot tapeworm?
Well, salmon is the real problem with sushi.
A lot of people don't realize it.
This is one of the reasons you never want to get sushi from anyone except the Japanese sushi purveyor.
And you don't really ever order salmon.
You order sake, which is salmon.
Sake salmon is different than just plain raw salmon.
This is a good tip.
Let me write this down.
Sake salmon?
S-A-K-E is what you order.
And sake is not like a type of salmon.
It is the way the salmon is treated.
Generally speaking, the salmon is...
The way to get around this, by the way, is just gamma radiation.
And then you don't have to worry about it.
But they don't do it that way.
They will smoke the salmon.
That's not a 200-year-old Japanese tradition to gamma-radiate your sushi?
That's a shame.
So you smoke the salmon to kill off...
The problem with salmon is it's got parasites, generally, a lot of them.
I don't know if it's the freshwater or the ocean salmon.
I don't know what it is, which specific salmon.
But a lot of salmon has parasites.
Hmm.
And so you smoke the salmon and then you treat the salmon in sake lees, which is the goo that's at the bottom of a sake tank that they make sake with.
And this is goo.
You can buy it at a Japanese store.
It's called sake, S-A-K-E, lees, L-E-E-S, which is the goo, dead yeast and all kinds of stuff.
The Once the salmon is treated for I don't know how long, it softens up and becomes just like regular salmon.
The smoke flavor goes away, and it seems like you're eating raw salmon, but you're eating sake, which is the reason it's called that, I believe.
Some places, I don't think everybody does that.
It's a very traditional method of making sure you don't have bad salmon.
And they specifically said salmon in that report for obvious reasons.
Because it's salmon, that's the problem.
You can just get by with never eating salmon because you don't know.
If a Frenchman cooks salmon or any of these raw fish at their restaurants, I do not trust them.
I only trust a Japanese sushi chef that knows what he's doing.
Period.
Well, this is good knowledge.
You could save lives with this.
Well, tapeworms don't necessarily kill you.
So my story is, if you're ready for a Dvorak story, so I'm working for the air pollution district and I'm working with the health department in Contra Costa County who did, oh, these guys, the health department guys are all freaks.
All the health department inspectors, they tend to be, because they've been looking at rat turds.
I mean, their whole life is just miserable.
So they see everything as toxic, and I don't know what they eat, personally what they eat when they get home.
But this guy says, oh, I would never eat raw fish.
And he says, it's so dangerous to eat raw fish.
And I said, really?
And then he tells me this story.
Apparently a big sushi fan judge, now I don't know if any of the details are accurate, a judge in Marin County ate some sushi, and a And in some of the sushi that's contaminated with parasites, there's this really little worm.
It's like a little inchworm that gets in the fish.
And it's not harmful.
It's not a tapeworm.
It's nothing really major.
And what it tends to do is always searching for higher ground.
And it creeps up your esophagus and then gets into your mouth.
And he says most people won't even know it's in there when they just be chewing it, bite into something.
They just think it's a food scrap.
And that's how these worms always end up.
But at a dinner party in Marin County, the judge was, you know, holding court, as it were, with all his buddies and friends of the family having dinner.
And he's talking about something.
And one of these worms that apparently he contracted worked its way up the esophagus and took a wrong turn.
And while everybody was watching him tell this story, the worm came out of his nose.
That sounds like horseshit.
That can't be true.
Well, it could be, but I like it.
It's a good story.
It's possible.
Yes, it's a good story.
Story of the day, my friend.
All right, let's wrap up some loose ends here.
I have...
Let me see.
I got...
Oh, yes.
It's not really a loose end.
What is it, I guess?
Cape Town.
I've been looking into this because I'm interested in all kinds of war.
War on weed, war on men, war on women, war on everything.
Water wars are going to be really big.
We have some of them going on already.
And this Cape Town Zero Day, which coincidentally is exactly what they called it last year.
And the year before.
They call it zero day every single year.
They're not talking about peak water.
So I found a YouTube of two guys, and it's a little overproduced, but they decided to go and check the dam out and see what's going on because there were rumors that the water was just flowing freely out of the reservoir.
Yeah.
Cape Town is in the middle, or even the end, of the largest water crisis it's had since records began.
And we're here at Tirvatos Clove Dam, one of the major water suppliers.
And we're here to debunk a rumor that millions and millions and millions of liters of water are being purposefully released downstream.
Millions.
And guess what?
It's true.
The Department of Water and Sanitation have had their sluices open since the 1st of November.
And there's no plans to close them anytime soon.
So wait a minute.
We have a water crisis and they're releasing water downstream.
The reason is very simple.
Farms.
So what does that mean?
That means that 60% of water in this dam is allocated to farms.
So that poses a very big ethical question.
Farms versus humans.
Because Cape Town has four months left of water before we run dry.
So...
It appears that a lot of the water is going to irrigate the farms, which is a lot like a California issue, actually.
Actually, most of the water is not irrigating anything in California.
It's just going out to the ocean.
Just flowing off, flowing into the ocean.
And I got a couple notes from producers.
Save the smelt.
They say, oh, we go through this every year, and it's just the incompetence of our stupid local government.
These guys actually went much further with the video, and they say, well, you know, to create one cup of coffee, it actually takes 300 gallons of water to grow the cocoa bean.
You know, like, ugh, please.
Ugh.
It's bullshit.
Yeah, I know.
But they have all these stats.
So, you know, it may even be a propaganda video.
But I think it's probably true that the water's flowing into the farms.
So, that's just the full story.
You know, not like whatever the news reports conjured up in your imagination.
So, you know, they got to make some decisions over there.
Or down there.
Well, I have my last clip.
And I just thought, that just took me aback because I didn't know this was going on.
And I don't know what it means, generally speaking, but this is the clip, Millennials Saving Money.
Millennials are becoming good savers.
A Bank of America survey finds 16% of Americans ages 23 to 37 have savings of $100,000 or more.
That is double the percentage two years ago.
Too bad it's all in Bitcoin.
Well, assuming it's not in Bitcoin, I think these guys are susceptible to stupidity.
No offense to all.
We have a lot of millennials that aren't that way that listen to the show.
And I can see them getting, you know, taken.
It's a lot of money for a kid.
It doesn't sound right to me.
It doesn't sound right to me.
Where's the college loan payoff?
Isn't everyone under extreme duress from that, and yet they have $100,000?
Well, I think a lot of people are, but I don't think everyone is.
That's not what the report said, though.
No, it said 16% of millennials.
Oh, okay.
It's not that big of a number.
It still seems high.
Well, that's the report from Bank of America, and Bank of America would never lie.
All right.
Let's see.
Yeah, maybe just this last thing.
It's more depressing than anything, but I'm very annoyed by Rex Tillerson.
The status of Syria is completely...
It's like we have a Syria rotation.
I thought we kicked ISIS's ass.
I'm just going to tell you the way it's perceived.
We kicked ISIS's ass.
They're out.
Russia, shut up.
Go away.
Iran, be quiet.
We're in control.
Everyone's dead.
It's all good.
Everyone can go home now.
Citizens, return to your homes.
But that's not Tillerson's message.
What?
I'd say that that is the mainstream media, American mainstream media's message.
Yeah, American.
Well, here's Rex Tillerson.
For nearly 50 years, the Syrian people have suffered under the dictatorship of Hafez al-Assad and his son Bashar al-Assad.
Now, his dad, yeah, but his son, not necessarily.
And maybe just ask Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, who hung out with him all the time before it wasn't cool.
The nature of the Assad regime, like that of its sponsor, Iran, is malignant.
It has promoted state terror.
It has empowered groups that kill American soldiers such as al-Qaeda.
It has backed Hezbollah and Hamas.
What did he just say?
I got it.
I don't believe the Al-Qaeda thing, by the way, but okay, go on.
Well, it kind of depends on how you want to interpret what he said.
Either he's saying it empowers groups like ISIS to kill American soldiers, but if you listen to it, you can also hear him say they fund groups to kill American soldiers like groups of American soldiers like groups like ISIS. That's not true.
Iran does some funding, but these guys aren't funders.
No, my point is, you can listen to what he's saying and interpret it as him saying, American soldiers are ISIS. Iran is malignant.
It has promoted state terror.
It has empowered groups that kill American soldiers, such as Al-Qaeda.
It just depends on how you want to listen to it, I guess.
But it kind of sounds like that.
It has backed Hezbollah and Hamas, and it has violently suppressed political opposition.
Bashar al-Assad's grand strategy, to the extent he has won beyond his own survival, includes hosting some of the most radical terrorist elements in the region and using them to destabilize his neighbors.
Assad's regime is corrupt, and his methods of governance and economic development have increasingly excluded certain ethnic and religious groups.
His human rights record is notorious the world over.
Such oppression cannot persist forever.
Finally, reducing and expelling malicious Iranian influence from Syria depends on a democratic Syria.
For many years, Syria under Bashar al-Assad has been a client state of Iran.
A Syrian central government that is not under the control of Assad will have new legitimacy to assert its authority over the country.
The reassertion of national sovereignty by a new government, along with de-escalation efforts and new flows of international aid, will lower violence, set better conditions for stability, and speed up the departure of foreign fighters.
So, unless I'm missing something, he's saying they need to get him out.
He's saying the same damn thing we've been saying for the past four years.
No, past eight.
Eight years.
Or 12, maybe.
I don't know when Obama first came out.
No, no, no, no, because Brad Pitt was still hanging out then.
No, okay.
At least eight.
And Assad's wife was on the cover of Vogue magazine in 2010, maybe 2012, I think.
Let me see.
Whenever it started, it's been a waste of money, lives, blood, and treasure.
Ooh, haven't heard that one for a while, have we?
What happened to Blood and Treasure?
I don't know.
They just dropped it.
They dropped it for some reason.
It was January 2012.
Okay, that was right after that it started.
Yeah.
Then all of a sudden, they weren't cool anymore.
They were evil dictators.
She's Imelda Marcos.
Without the shoes.
Yeah.
All right.
Final, final one.
Just because it's a little dig from NBC at Trump.
Holding its breath over an Olympic peace breakthrough, a senior North Korean government official tells NBC News its nuclear program will continue.
You think the North Koreans will launch one of these this year?
Oh, certainly.
I think they may take a break for the Olympics, but I don't see any reason for them to stop testing.
Dr.
Jeffrey Lewis specializes in nonproliferation.
We met with him in California before our trip.
He showed us exclusively a detailed model and technical assessment of North Korea's most advanced missile, tested last November.
Any doubt that this missile that you think you replicated can reach the continental United States?
Oh, no doubt whatsoever.
This is a very large missile.
Oh, all the way down to Mar-a-Lago.
All the way down to Mar-a-Lago.
Oh, please.
You want to play the North and South Korea Olympic update that I have here on the list?
Yeah.
And I just want to say, Steck, I can't play any of your clips anymore, man.
You got to get this shit fixed.
You got to get it working.
It's no value.
Oh, you need to have a patch cable.
That's what I tell him.
He won't listen to me.
He has the best clips, but he doesn't have a patch.
He's just holding...
No, these are useless clips.
They're hard to understand.
They're very hard to understand.
You need a direct clip to the audio stream.
You don't need these...
Yes.
No, I agree.
I told him, get a cheap micro-recorder with a cable, stick it in your TV. He sends dynamite clips.
Anyway, here's your North and South Korea clip.
Along the border between North and South Korea today, the Olympic torch was carried across the unification bridge near the demilitarized zone.
The Bitter Enemies, the North and South will march together at the opening ceremony in three weeks.
This Bitter Enemies thing worked with this particular story.
They need to say it.
They need to create the drama.
Everybody's in show business.
And that's why we're here to break it down for you each time.
But if you really want to be healthy...
Add to your no-agenda diet a healthy dose of getting the fuck off Facebook.
That will help you.
That's my tip of the day.
That won't hurt.
It won't hurt, that's for sure.
All right, everybody.
Of the last 36, I've slept three, so I'm about to go after we put the show up.
See if I can find something open here in the mall that I'm currently living in because I am here at Schiphol Airport outside of Amsterdam, the Netherlands, living the mall rat life.
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