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Yeah, uh, meh-heh-heh.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorah.
It's Thursday, January 4th, 2018.
This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 or 9 or 6.
This is no agenda.
Measuring buttons and other appendages.
And broadcasting live from downtown Austin Tejas, capital of the drone, star state, in the Cludio.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're asking the big question, will they pick up the garbage today?
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Why would they not pick up the garbage today?
It's garbage day!
It is garbage day, but last week they moved it to Friday because they had the Monday off.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
I remember these issues.
I don't have that here in the condo.
Why don't you just throw your shit out the window?
Yes.
Honda East Austin.
Hey!
Gentrification coming your way, people.
Look out below!
Actually, I do love the trash chute, I have to say.
The trash chute is nice, because it's always there.
You don't have to worry about it.
I mean, you don't really even have to separate your recyclables.
It all goes into one big container downstairs.
I've seen it.
It's not two separate containers.
It's a joke.
Yeah, there's a lot of that going around.
Right off the bat, this is news that, I don't know, it was very interesting to me.
I don't know if all of our audience finds it interesting, but apparently in the Intel chips, There's a bug or a flaw or maybe it's a glitch.
Or a feature.
And it allows hackers to enter into the subsystem.
I don't know.
Apparently it affects all Intel machines.
The fix is available, but the fix might slow down all of these chips by up to 30%.
Have you heard this?
Yeah?
What is going on?
That's a big fuss going on.
That's a big deal.
You don't think that's a big deal?
I don't know what to do.
Yeah, well, maybe.
I don't know what the deal is.
All I know is I've heard this, and AMD and Intel are going back and forth about it.
Yeah.
Our chips are better.
You guys have never been that good.
Right.
And this and that.
So you end up with this and that.
This, that, and the other thing.
Yes.
And so on and so forth.
Uh-huh.
So I don't know yet what's going on.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm finally over to a Windows machine.
Well, I don't think your chips are affected.
I have an Intel.
It's a new chip.
Is it?
I think I have the i7.
Do you actually believe it is?
Wow.
I hadn't considered that Dell would rip me off.
No, they're not going to...
I mean, we're talking about these...
Well, I don't know.
I'm not going to talk about...
The answer is we just don't...
Okay, we just don't know yet.
Okay, that's fine.
Well, then tell me about the earthquake this morning.
Did you feel it?
It was near you.
Yeah, actually, I woke up just before the earthquake, which is not unusual because you actually live in earthquake country.
Yeah, you're like a parakeet.
You're like a dog.
So there are great starts.
Stop, stop.
So you woke up before it even happened.
You felt it was something was going on.
No.
I didn't felt that something was going on.
Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night?
All the time.
When you wake up, do you think, oh, something's going to happen?
Something's going on?
No.
Very rarely.
I think, oh, I've got to poop.
That's usually what I think.
Well, there's that.
That's different.
Anyway, so I woke up just kind of, I didn't like wake up and jump out of bed.
I just kind of woke for just a split second and then the earthquake started.
So I figured there was some early wave or something.
They might have jostled you a bit.
And so it started.
It was a good one.
It was like a reasonably good shaker.
I mean, it was a shaker.
Magnitude 4.5, which I believe on the old Richter scale was probably about a 2?
I don't know.
I'm thinking.
This would be more than a 2, I can assure you.
Okay.
And...
So when these things happen, I've been through a number of them.
They start shaking, and it's not like the normal short quake that, you know, the 3.3 or whatever it is nearby.
This was nearby.
This was only just right by the Claremont Hotel.
Oh, was there any damage?
Any damage at the Claremont?
I have no idea.
I mean, this is two miles from Berkeley.
Yeah, it was just a couple miles away.
And so the typical little short nearby quake is like it sounds like some truck hit your garage and ran into it.
I mean, it's exactly what it sounds like to me.
And this was not one of those.
This was an actual shaker, so it started shaking.
It lasted about three seconds, which is a long time, believe me, when the house is moving around.
No kidding.
And I was just laying there.
You don't jump out of bed and go try to...
Put yourself under an arch or anything.
You just wait.
Instead of doing what they always teach, like go stand in the doorway, you just went back, you laid down in bed, kind of like Titanic.
You sit there, you wait to see how long it's going to go on.
And so it goes, oh geez, that ends.
And then you wait a little longer to see if that was a pre-quake.
That's the real problem if it was.
And then you don't, maybe a minute goes by and you go right back to sleep.
Yes, I remember that experience from Los Angeles.
Yeah, Los Angeles has a lot of this.
It's true, it's true.
But this one was close to you, so I was kind of like, huh?
It was, it really shook the place, but it was, you know, three seconds, which is again, it sounded like a lot until you're in it.
And I'm going to report it.
USGS has a reporting service.
So if you're in a Quake at all, you should go into the service, find out what Quake you think it was, and then report your experience.
Oh, it's user-generated reporting?
Yes.
It's funny, I haven't received any space weather alerts for a while.
Maybe it broke with the iOS 11 upgrade.
I'm so tired of upgrading.
So regarding the Quake, apparently Nick and Jay, which they're pretty close to Jay just kind of slept through it.
And Nick, who's from Washington State, was freaked out.
He's not used to this stuff.
Well, it's not like they happen all the time anyway.
Well, if it's not an earthquake, it's the bomb cyclone.
I have some clips about the bomb cyclone.
Including an explanation of bomb cyclone.
Which I think, this was on CBS, and he specifically asked He says, can you tell me what's the difference between a bomb cyclone and bombogenesis?
This is the clip defining.
Eric, first of all, what is the preferred term here and what does it mean?
I would go old school.
I'd go with bombogenesis.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
What do you mean old school?
I know.
I've never heard this term before.
That's not old school.
That's new speak.
Term here, and what does it mean?
Well, I would go old school.
I'd go with bombogenesis.
Bomb cyclone is another way of saying the same exact thing.
So what does it mean?
Well, it's something that happens every year.
This one will be pretty notable because of how deep this storm...
It happens every year, yet we never talk about it.
This is Great!
We'll get in a very short amount of time.
So we take a look at 2 this afternoon.
Central low pressure east of Florida, 1,004 millibars.
Run of the mill.
Tomorrow afternoon at 2 o'clock as it moves off the New England shoreline, we're down around 955 millibars.
That is a tremendous drop.
Almost 50 millibars in 24 hours.
That's bombogenesis.
It has to be at least 24 in 24 hours.
Why does it matter to anyone on the ground?
Well, the faster that pressure drops, the more the winds respond in kind.
And this is going to be a big windmaker across the coast, especially in New England.
So here's the timeline.
Snowing in North Carolina this evening that will move up across the mid-Atlantic coast.
Heavy snowfall confined close to the coastline as we head through the overnight.
And skirting the big cities like Philly and New York, the heaviest snowfall falls in New England throughout the day tomorrow.
All wrapped up, this is a storm that will likely have an eye feature tomorrow.
If you're looking on satellite, it'll have the appearance of something that would look like a hurricane.
So here are the snow amounts.
Boston a foot or a little bit more as possible.
New York about 4 to 6.
Philly 1-3 on that very back edge of the snowfall.
Now this is going to drag in another blast of really impressive cold.
These are mainly all record cold temperatures for highs as we look into Friday and Saturday.
And at night, widespread sub-zero readings.
This may be the coldest blast of the entire stretch that we have seen here, Jeff, since dating back on Christmas.
Yeah.
you Now, you can pepper these clips.
They had to give it a name, I guess, in order to tie it into global warming.
It has to have some kind of scientific explanation.
Yeah, they're going to have trouble making these numbers.
I don't think so.
People are all in on this.
Well, here, play one of these clips.
You can follow it up with this ISO. Yeah, baby.
Okay.
Yeah, baby!
Thanks.
I'll work on it.
You know, we're going to have all these new type of man on the street bits because, you know, we have with the hurricane, with severe storms, we have the reporter on the street in the water up to their waist with people walking by in the background.
Now we have the frozen face person.
We'll try to get them.
I think it's here.
Eastern Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina are expected to get as much as 6 inches of snow.
And New England is likely to see 12 to 15 inches.
As the cyclone travels up the coast, wind gusts could be around 30 to 50 miles per hour.
The numbing cold is already affecting areas in New York.
A blizzard warning has been in effect for Erie County with snow falling fast.
You couldn't see a gosh darn thing in front of you.
Everything was blurry.
There was a complete whiteout right now.
You could even tell there was a complete whiteout.
I still can't feel my fingertips just from walking, not even cord, you know, from my vehicle.
We're going to have a lot of those.
Whiteout!
It's a whiteout.
It's so good.
Jeez Louise.
Well, just before we play all these, I have a bunch of these clips about this thing too, but before we do that, before we play all those, I want to Since you've mentioned a new theme, which I think the other theme was standing in front of the exact same fountain.
Frozen fountain, yes.
Frozen fountain shot.
Always a winner.
Now, I just want to play this as kind of another thing I'm starting to see from CBS. And I'm calling this The Bad Segway.
And this reminds me...
This R.S. 22 Minutes or whatever that show used to be called up in Canada.
They had a whole segment called The Bad Segway.
Oh, yeah.
I think you played stuff from that in the past on the show.
Yeah.
And it was like they'd talk about one thing and they'd talk about...
Now, tell me this.
This is The Bad Segway.
Tell me this is not...
A classic bad segue.
There is a dangerous weather system along the East Coast tonight.
It brought an ice storm to the south and could bring a major snowstorm to the north overnight.
We will have much more on that in just a moment.
But first, the Arctic chill between President Trump and his former chief strategist.
Borderliner for that.
Hey, I know.
Let's link it like this.
Yeah.
That's childish.
We're going to see a lot of this really, a lot of bad puns.
Bad puns.
That's because Jeff Glor is a cornball.
Who's Jeff Glor?
He's the new anchor at CBS. Oh, that's the young guy.
The young guy.
He thinks this stuff is funny.
Hey, I got an idea.
Hey, the new guy had a great idea.
And I'd like to remind everybody that in the 70s, the very same people, including, I think, Holdren, who was Obama's science advisor.
Who?
Holdren.
John P. Holdren.
Oh, yes, I think.
He was part of the global cooling crowd.
And it was the exact same fear-mongering.
If you just do a Google search, you can find New York Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, Washington Post, tons of articles, exactly the same as you've seen in the past 10 years, only warning for a mini ice age, which now it appears we might be going into.
And I'm not so sure I like that.
I like warming better, I believe.
I think we should like warming better.
The cooling is going to kill people.
Yes.
Let's play this short clip.
This is the just average...
I like to know how you get...
This is going to be the hottest year on record, by the way, 2018, I can assure you.
Hotter than any other in history.
In history.
Average temperature in USA. This is the...
They're going to get...
Play this average temperature clip.
And get this.
The average temperature in the continental US this morning was just 9 degrees.
Number 9.
The whole country.
Damn.
It was 20...
It went down to 20 here in Austin.
Went down to 51 here at night.
Woo!
That was the quake.
Yeah.
All right, well, here's another...
I got the storm update snow in Florida, which is kind of interesting.
Okay, yeah.
The people there, yeah.
But the one I want to play is another one that relates more to global warming because it kind of makes you...
We didn't have a lot of carbon dioxide problems in 1895, so let's play Chicago to tie Cold Snap record.
Folks, in Chicago, we're used to cold weather, but this is a long stretch even for them.
If the temperature does not rise above 20 degrees by Saturday, Chicago will tie a record for 12 consecutive days below 20.
That has happened just twice before in 1936 and 1895.
I think 12 consecutive days below the 20 is a depression.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Wrong chart.
Man!
Yeah, it's fun times.
What I'm getting from this is a lot of tidbits.
A lot of tidbits.
Yeah, you mean little nuggets of info?
Yeah, useless information is fantastic.
Yeah.
Anyway, if you want to play the storm update, this is a $1.49 clip.
This was I-95 through Brunswick, Georgia.
And while it isn't rare to see a massive backup here, the cause of this one was ice on the road this far south.
Dozens of long-haul drivers decided it was time to pull over.
Even Lee Church, who is from Indiana, put it in park.
Trying to get up to at least somewhere in South Carolina because I knew it was supposed to start snowing.
It didn't work out that way.
Why not?
I'd say there's about a quarter inch of ice on the road and it's icing everything up and just snow on top of it.
It's just a real bad situation.
Hundreds of accidents littered roadways from Georgia to the Carolinas.
Semi-trucks flipped over and cars lost control.
Those who didn't heed the warnings to stay off roads found themselves stuck.
Georgia State Patrol Captain Chris Wright.
This is not something that our people are accustomed to dealing with.
So we want them to stay home, stay off the roadway and stay safe and stay warm.
The southern snow dipped as far as Tallahassee, Florida, which hadn't seen much of any snowfall in nearly three decades.
And while it wasn't a whiteout, it was an unusual sight for tourists in the Palmetto State.
Gus Krall is visiting Charleston.
It's pretty wild.
I've never seen palm trees with snow on them before.
Heading into tonight, winds could cause more power outages along southern coastal communities.
Ice that's formed on trees and power lines threatens to weigh down and snap them.
The Savannah area received anywhere from one to four and a half inches of snow, amounts not seen in decades.
And even though it's tapered off, you can tell by this partly frozen fountain behind me, the threat remains.
Roads could refreeze overnight, and below average temperatures are expected to last in the southeast through the weekend.
Cold.
They talk about decades.
We haven't seen snow in the San Francisco Bay Area since the 70s.
Yeah.
Right?
And the funny thing is, the time it snowed here, right in San Francisco, I think it was two years in a row, I've talked about this before, in 72-73 or 73-74, one of the two.
And that was the period where they were promoting the global cooling.
Cooling, yeah.
Oh, it's snowing out, it must be global cooling.
The polar vortex is still in play.
And here is how it works.
The colder it gets, the more fossil fuels are burned.
This causes more cold and more burning of fossil fuels, so more global warming and more cold.
It's a vortex.
It's a system that just takes us right down the drain.
Wow.
So we should not turn on the heat.
We should freeze to death.
That's the way it goes.
Hey, our electricity went out the other night when it was in the 20s.
It was in the 20s and your electricity went there.
It was just a warning.
No, no.
Warning shot across the bow.
No, this is the lead certification of this shitty-ass building.
Yeah.
So, you know, everything is, you know, in order to get the certification, which I believe comes with some tax advantages, they cripple the dishwasher, they cripple the washing machine, they cripple the dryer, they cripple the faucets, they cripple the shower head pressure.
And I think they were really running on, you know, minimum amperage because when it was really cold and everyone had their heaters going, boom, power goes out and they were switching on floor by floor by floor and they got to our block, which is like five floors, it would keep tripping.
And so they had to do, I don't know what they did, but they upped the amperage.
But I'm telling you, it's because of this new Intel computer you got there.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
Hey, who's mining bitcoins in the building?
Stop it.
By the way, the China Central Bank has told top-level government internet finance officials that the monetary authority can now tell local governments to regulate power usage of bitcoin miners to gradually reduce the scale of production.
There's your flaw.
Yeah.
The government will not stand for this.
They'll do anything.
And ultimately, I'm pretty sure that they have some power over the power.
Yeah?
Well, I'm sure of that.
And I don't think your solar panels are going to cut it.
Well, I'd like to know how they're doing in this weather.
In the east, those solar panels, they must be fantastic, covered with snow.
Must be great, yeah.
I think you wrote this in the newsletter, but I got a clip.
Chew on this before it's gone.
In news that's not so sweet, Business Insider reports there's a chocolate shortage, and experts say it's on track to vanish by 2050.
What on earth can we do about it?
Call Mars, the candy company that is.
Mars Incorporated is working with scientists at the University of California, Berkeley to develop cacao plants that won't wilt.
In the simplest of terms, warmer temps and drier conditions are killing cacao plants.
Thankfully, Brainiacs at UC Berkeley developed gene editing technology that lets scientists and the candy company tweak the crop's DNA. This is important because over half of the world's chocolate now comes from two countries in West Africa, according to the International Business Times.
But in a few decades, these areas won't be suitable for the plants.
If all goes well, instead of relocating them uphill in an area preserved for wildlife, the plants won't rot or wilt where they are, and we get to enjoy more chocolate.
So thank you, UC Berkeley, Mars, and the Gene Editing Tool.
You could call them the Three Musketeers.
See what I did there?
Oh!
Yeah.
GMO chocolate.
Sounds good.
Is this true?
Is this really affecting the cocoa plants?
No.
This is some bullcrap story.
Is it just like to put an egg on it?
Is this the chocolate council of America?
Yes, put an egg on it by the chocolate people.
There must be a chocolate council of America.
Oh, I'm sure there's more than one.
Of America.
Let me just see.
Let me see what they're saying.
Yes, Chocolate Council.
The National Confectioners Association.
That probably would be one of them.
Now you're talking.
Let's see if there's any news.
Is there any samples?
Not on the website.
You lick your screen, slave.
No, I don't see any news about it here.
That was a Mars.
Mars did that one.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
So Mars is going all GMO. No, they just wanted to plug Three Musketeers in their brand name, Mars Bar.
And the guy did, see what I did there?
Yeah, you got paid to do that, douche.
Yeah, we get it.
Yeah, no, I ran that story, but it's a bullcrap story.
I had a lunch the other day with someone, anonymous, and this person's partner works...
What kind of person is this?
It's an anonymous person.
But is it a person that works?
Is it a banker?
Is it a lawyer?
I can't tell you in this case.
But it's unimportant because this person's partner works at a food analysis company.
And so they work for Kraft and all the big packaged food outfits.
And they use very, according to this person, very sophisticated algorithms to determine two things and two things only in all packaged food.
One, how can they put in less ingredients?
And two, how can they make it more addictive?
And they've even developed these special, you probably know about this, the salt crystals that are triangular, so they take up less mass or less space, yet they have more flavor.
They're very expensive.
Oh, it's expensive?
Well, it's not as cheap as just junk salt.
Well, but they're trying.
All they're trying to do...
I mean, the idea behind those crystals, they were developed for people to lower your salt intake.
Right.
Because it tastes just as salty, but it's not as much salt.
You don't think they've improved that down to a case for a cost basis case?
I would guess not personally, but because it's a new technology and they don't just Run the prices down for no good reason when they don't have to.
But if you look at mac and cheese from Kraft, it's pretty much two ingredients.
It's plastic and cheese flavoring.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's what they're striving for.
Some emulsifiers.
Yeah.
It looks like cheese.
Yeah, it smells like cheese.
Yeah, it looks like macaroni.
Good enough for me.
Yeah, exactly.
Some joker, one of our producers, sent me one of those Amazon buttons, those stupid buttons.
To order something?
Yeah, to order mac and cheese.
And how does it work?
Do you have to connect it to Wi-Fi?
What is the connection mechanism?
All I know is that when the baby's over and it just starts pushing the button, push, push, push, push.
A lot of mac and cheese shows up.
Bundles of it.
No, you have to somehow turn it on.
Luckily, you have to turn it on at the Amazon website somehow.
I don't know.
I'm not even interested in it.
I just thought it was funny.
Yeah.
I'm about to get very uninterested in my talking tube.
Oh, really?
Why is this?
Well, there's a couple of...
Actually, who reported this?
Consumer Watchdog.
That...
Where's my wolf when I need it?
Exactly.
Amazon filed a patent.
You're eating something.
Actually, I just had a Tums.
I had a little sour stomach.
You have a little reflux.
Reflux, yes.
Amazon filed a patent.
And the patent is going to make use of the fact that the talking tube is always in listening mode.
We know this.
This is not a big secret.
Yes, you use the wake word to activate it, but it's listening.
Sure.
Here it is.
For Amazon's Echo, it's...
Use his wake word.
Amazon has envisioned it using that information to build profiles anyone on the room to sell them stuff.
Amazon filed a patent application for an algorithm that lets the device identify statements of interest such as, I love skiing!
Enabling the speaker to be surveilled based on their interests and targeted for related advertising.
If anybody didn't see this coming, they had a screw loose.
I'm okay with them doing that.
Here's the problem.
When will the stupid slaves of Gitmo Nation wake up and realize that Amazon should be paying them to do this?
People are still buying these things.
Yeah, this is like wearing around somebody's logo on an overpriced shirt.
No, shit.
You got a point there.
Of course, the slaves will never wake up.
They love this shit.
Yeah.
Oh, look what I've got.
Chanel.
Look my Chanel.
I'm a Chanel.
It's like, hey, are they paying you to be the spokesperson?
I don't think so.
Do you have the pink sweatpants?
With pink on the back?
Yeah, I wear pink sweatpants now.
They go great with your Crocs.
Absolutely.
But that folds right into a story in the New York Times.
Well, before you fold right into that, I have an aside.
Yo.
I've thought about this.
For some reason it just came to me when I was driving.
Because I don't listen.
I just drive.
Normally James is driving you, yes.
And so I'm thinking, tell me this would not be a great idea.
If you could hack that Amazon tube, or any of the tubes, you hack it.
So instead of...
It's listening all the time, because it's listening all the time anyway.
But it is constantly phoning home to some specific IP address.
No, it's not.
That's not true.
But okay, I understand what you're saying.
No, and I'm saying you hack it.
Uh-huh.
So it phones home.
Oh, okay.
Some IP address.
One of yours.
So you can put this thing, you give it to somebody as a Christmas gift and then you monitor everything they do.
That should be a feature.
I agree.
I'm telling you, this is one of those no agenda tips we try to provide in every show so people add maybe $5 to their donation.
If you get a gifted Amazon Echo, send it back.
We need to appropriate such a hack.
I like that idea.
I know.
Somebody out there could probably do it, too.
I can think of five or six guys who could probably do it.
Yeah, and with the new Echo, there's a camera and everything, so you can do that, too.
That's great.
That's a good idea.
Now, here's the thing that's disturbing, though, and this comes from the New York Times.
And actually, you know, you had showed me, I think, after the last show, whenever it was, you were showing me how on, because I'm new to Windows 10, how to find all these apps that shit had been installed.
And I had like a Candy Crush app or something, which, believe me, was never accessed on this computer or anything of mine.
And yet there it was.
And so, you know, these little stuff that's being installed.
New York Times had a report about...
I think this is only Android devices, but it's a big audience...
A lot of these games like Honey Quest, Pool 3D, Bowling Strike, Ten Pin, they are of course free.
Then you play them to your heart's content, but as you're sitting there on the couch playing it, it activates your microphone and listens to what TV is playing and will start to hand off advertising targeting based upon what commercials you saw.
Which I think is, you know, that's just a signature.
It's pretty easy to identify once you have the database.
And then it starts targeting online ads with the product you saw on television.
You know, this seems to me to be one of those technologies that somebody put through together to get some venture capital funding.
Because I want to make the argument that I doubt if any of this stuff even comes close to working.
And I say that because...
Everybody, myself, you, everybody that listens to the show, probably at one time or another got butt-dialed.
I get butt-dialed a lot because I'm at the top of most people's list.
Fascinating.
So you get the butt-dial, and now you hear somebody you might be able to identify, maybe not, you can't use you by the phone number.
And you listen, you listen, you can't hear anything.
For one thing, it's in their pocket or it's laying around and you can't...
You hear some people mumbling in the background.
I think I've only one time ever actually heard part of a conversation.
But generally speaking, it's useless.
So if these guys think...
I don't even care what the array microphones that they use in those devices, Amazon and the rest.
If they think they're going to be picking up the TV set...
And figuring out what ads there are.
They're nuts.
This is bull crap.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to disagree.
This is proven technology.
It works.
Yes.
Yes.
How about Shazam?
With audio signatures, it works extremely well.
Radio station ratings are also done this way.
You can put the thing right up to the speaker.
No, no, no.
I can be in a crowded restaurant and it'll work.
No, that's not true.
It's a sound signature.
It may not be able to hear what people are saying and to discern that, but it can definitely get a sound signature from an ad that has music in it, is packaged.
I think you're wrong.
I think I'm right.
No, you're wrong!
I think it's bullcrap.
This stuff works.
Ads are already tracked this way.
Records are tracked this way.
Soundscan tracks this way.
When it comes to, I'm sorry, when it comes to a signature for audio, yes, that is now possible.
There's plenty of examples, and I've had it myself, where you use one of these things and you can't figure out the song.
Okay.
And if you're going to be playing an all-state ad, you know, where the guy's talking and there's no music, which most, very few ads have music, by the way.
Mostly somebody trying to sell you something.
You're really fighting on something that I don't understand because it's already been proven to work.
Well, you should send me the papers.
I'll send you a clip.
The papers and a clip.
Yes.
And a lot of people, and I will say mainly millennials, they're complaining a lot.
You can bing it.
Saying, hey, is my phone...
And they all say Facebook.
Is Facebook listening to my phone because when I'm talking about something and it shows up?
No.
I'm convinced these are all...
They all have games.
They all have these free crappy games.
And they're playing them while they're watching TV or something else is on.
And that's why it's picking stuff up.
It's picking it up from the TV and then it's giving the ads.
Let's assume it works.
Okay.
Because I have another argument.
Okay.
We'll go past that.
Okay, so you're playing Candy Crush on your phone.
It's got the mic on.
It's got whatever.
It's listening to the house.
And there's a TV on.
Because I've watched television with the kids and they watch a little bit of NCIS and they go on their little phones and that's the end of it.
They don't care.
So you're watching, you're playing the game, the TV is so inconsequential that it's going to pick up what the TV's doing and then try to sell you that stuff?
You're not interested or you wouldn't be on the phone in the first place playing the game.
You know very little about advertising.
There's so much that works subliminally and people, you hear this, you're hearing it and certainly from the advertising...
I've run big advertising companies.
Oh, okay, okay.
Then I defer.
I will say no more.
If you just let me finish.
Go on.
Oh, man, the microaggressions are huge today.
They're macro.
Yes, microaggressions.
Just go finish your story.
You're defending bullshit as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, well, fine.
But I'm not condescending like an ass like you are.
You've been condescending.
There's no reason to do that.
I have a different opinion, different experience.
We're not even going to make it to show a thousand anymore!
Now listen to me.
Listen, you can sell to an advertiser this.
You can sell this to them.
They will love it.
Whether it's really effective is secondary.
Well, that's all I'm concerned about.
Now, you're right.
You can sell all kinds of crap to advertisers, including internet advertising, which is the main thing you complain about every chance you get.
Yes.
We have no disagreement about that.
I'm just saying, it's happening.
You know, I had this thing, this thing happened in the magazine business where the advertisers really went toward media buyers.
They'd hire these women right out of college.
And they were media buyers.
Yes.
And they would just, they would work for the big ad agencies and they would determine if they should put their ads in PC Magazine or Forbes.
Or various, whatever magazine they felt like.
And so I was on the Forbes yacht on one of these trips where they cajoled these buyers, and they're all kids, as far as I was concerned.
Just out of college, usually out of Ivy League schools, and mostly women.
It's only gotten worse.
It's now just plain, moronic millennials who don't care.
This was the precursor.
Well, this was the precursor, and they didn't care either.
And they were probably millennials, but the older group.
And they're mostly, almost all women.
And you sit down with them because a lot of them are attractive.
You want to sit down and chat, find out what's going on.
Say hello.
And they all knew nothing.
They knew nothing about anything.
Nothing about nothing.
They knew nothing about nothing.
And so it was like, holy mackerel, this is terrible.
And it just deteriorated from there as far as I was concerned.
Although, you know, I tried to...
Okay, so imagine, hey boss, boss.
Omnicom, they just had this cool system.
We get in the game, and then here's the song, and then here's the commercial, and then they put it right in the face bag.
Boss, should we buy that?
And the boss goes, what do you think?
Is it good?
Yeah, it's cool.
Done.
That's because they apparently have money to burn.
By ripping off their own customers.
Yes.
So, back to the original topic, the listening talking tubes.
People should start telling Amazon and Google and Apple, or Amazon in particular, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you should give me this box and pay me a couple hundred bucks a month to have it in my home.
They will do that.
It's worth it to them.
Well, I put a box in my home if I could get a check for 200 bucks every month.
That's your price of freedom and $200 a month?
That's all it took?
I'm good.
Well, shit.
They should just give everybody $200 a month and then hang the mics up.
Put a little, you know, like a Heil.
Here's what you do.
Heil.
If you're still concerned, I would do the following.
Get your 200 bucks a month.
Take a little small portable radio and just turn it on and leave it right next to this thing all the time.
And just do whatever you want to do.
You don't have to sit there and tell your secrets.
Just collect the checks.
Yeah.
It's coming.
Call faxing it in.
It's coming.
Yeah, it's fun.
All right.
Oh, um...
Let's get back to the real news.
Yes, we can do that.
How about a little compilage of the media's reaction to the Trump North Korea button tweet?
I would love it.
Well, it just so happens I have a good one.
Sixteen tweets today to start the new year, some of them deeply disturbing.
These are the messages from a person who is not well, from a leader who is not fit for office.
This is language that would have been rejected from the script of Dr.
Strangelove.
We can't begin to normalize this.
This is dangerous.
This is childish.
This is unprecedented.
It's not befitting the leader of the free world.
None of this normal, none of this acceptable, none of this frankly stable behavior.
This is so far outside the principles and the norms of presidential behavior that we are in an outer space realm here.
This is what happens in authoritarian countries.
Trump needs to be medicated and hospitalized.
At this point, or he is going to just kill all of us.
He is not merely being cavalier with a threat about nuclear war.
He's being cavalier in a way that makes him seem demented and deranged.
Perhaps never have we seen a man whose profound sexual and masculine insecurities are literally threatening to annihilate the planet.
Literally, literally threatening to annihilate the planet.
Actually, I got one, that guy.
Let me see, where is he?
That's Arnand Gridharadas?
Are you familiar with this guy?
No.
He's a dark-skinned guy with, like, silver, silver hair.
It's very odd to look at.
Here's the full statement from him.
He's Indian or Pakistani, not sure, from origin, but his hair is like an odd color.
Interesting thought from Donald Trump about the size of his nuclear button and the threat that he just put up against the North Korean leader.
Your thoughts?
As we saw all through 2017, men with profound sexual insecurity can wreak a lot of havoc in the lives of women, in the lives of their families.
But perhaps never have we seen a man whose profound sexual and masculine insecurities are literally threatening to annihilate the planet.
I mean, the way he's literally capitalizing in that tweet is nuclear button.
I mean, any psychiatrist or psychologist would have a field day with that, but we all live in a world That could literally be ended in terms of a habitable planet because of the sad man's insecurity.
And that's just another chink in the Hitler puzzle, another piece.
He had a frustrating childhood.
He had a mother complex.
He had issues with his sexuality.
Of course.
I think you should examine...
The guy should probably take a look at his wife and then take a look at Trump's three wives and see what he thinks.
I don't want to get into that.
No.
I heard one of the guys go on about this is the most unbelievable, unpresidential thing that anyone could ever do.
There's no history for it.
No precedence whatsoever.
So I do have the Reagan bombing joke from 1984.
The one heard around the world.
No, not that one.
No, no, no.
The Reagan bombing joke, 1984.
My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever.
We begin bombing in five minutes.
Yes, I remember that.
Now, it seems very similar.
Just at the time, I remember the response vaguely because I was quite young.
What was the country's response to this joke?
Well, here's the thing that gets on.
I do have the news story that ran because of this joke, and that's the joke heard around the world.
And I want to set this up a little bit because this was the news media...
Not only – they ran this story as a straight news story about what happened with Russia, but the difference in attitude with Reagan – and even though he was a Republican, the news media sided with him with a kind of a slam against the opponent in ways unlike we've ever heard since this guy got in office because this is almost like a conspiracy – Compared to the way it was there, listen to the way they presented the story.
I've signed legislation.
Outlaw Russia forever.
We begin bombing in five minutes.
It was the joke heard around the world, the one by President Reagan, about bombing the Soviet Union.
And it resulted in a Soviet red alert, and it became a campaign issue in this country.
Now, Marvin Kalb has learned that the Soviets responded in their own fashion.
The president was joking his way through an audio check on August 11th.
I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever.
We begin bombing in five minutes.
By August 14th, the story became World News, a major item on Moscow television where the joke was not treated as a laughing matter.
August 15th, a coded message left Soviet military headquarters in Vladivostok.
It said, in part, we now embark on military action against the U.S. forces.
The code was instantly broken by U.S. and Japanese intelligence.
This is what then happened.
A special command unit in Yusurysk went on wartime alert.
Key Japanese military units raised their readiness status.
Soviet naval vessels in the North Pacific, baffled by the order, checked with Vladivostok.
Confusion.
U.S. intelligence urgently canvassed for signs of an imminent Soviet attack.
Found none.
There was what they described as a wayward operator in the Soviet Far Eastern Command who sent out a message alerting Soviet forces in that area that a state of war existed between the United States and the Soviet Union.
Within 30 minutes, the mysterious Soviet alert was canceled.
Was it unusual?
Not according to U.S. officials.
They said it particularly happens on weekends when discipline is a little less than it might be on weekdays.
But August 15th was a weekday.
One senator said the alert must have been a joke.
A congressman said it was Russia's way of answering the president.
Most officials said no comment.
Though one did speculate that the Russian might have been drunk.
Marvin Kalb, NBC News, the State Department.
Yeah, that's good.
What a beautiful to hear an old news report like that.
I like it.
The authority in the voice is quite amazing.
Yeah, and they back up the president, more or less, and say the guy's drunk, the other guy, the Russian.
And it was nothing like the clip blitz that you played of all these little...
Hating on Trump stuff.
It's just there's no comparison.
Because the whole system has been corrupted somehow by the, I now call them the pantsuit brigade.
These are the pro-Hillary people.
And the reason I bring that up is because Mimi's down here and she's talking about what's going on in Port Angeles politics.
And some new woman who is part of the pantsuit brigade, as she puts it, has gotten to be vice mayor.
Nobody knows who this person is.
But it's the Hillary supporters that somehow got her in as vice mayor of the little town.
And as she's telling me this story, I'm thinking, this is exactly what's going on.
And everything that is leading up to Hillary running again in 2020 because she still thinks she can beat this guy because she beat him by the popular vote.
Do you think she's still going to try?
She's still on that ship?
She hasn't figured it out?
I think it's a whole nationwide movement, and she is going to get beaten again, probably worse, because she's so old, and the Democrats are freaked out.
Yeah, they don't want her anywhere near the party anymore.
They're freaked out.
And all this that you're playing and I'm playing is all telling me the same story.
The media is all in for Hillary.
Everybody wants Hillary.
They wanted to run again because how did she lose?
We have examined the Goldwater rule in Trump rotation.
Now, of course, we're back to he's insane, he's unhinged, he's crazy, he has his finger on the button.
He pretty much poked the bear with that tweet.
Oh yeah.
But for the first time I heard a serious, although ludicrous, a serious argument for the president's mental condition.
And it comes from a book.
And a concept, so we have the Goldwater Rule.
This is when Barry Goldwater was being pronounced insane by psychologists in the media back in the day when he was running, and he sued them for defamation of character.
And I presume he won, or whatever it is, psychologists and psychiatrists adopted the Goldwater Rule, so you just don't talk about people's psyche on television.
If you don't have them in the examination room.
If you haven't examined them, exactly.
Right.
So, on Democracy Now!, there was a very interesting report.
And let me see, what is this woman's name?
Her name is...
I think it's mentioned in this report.
Judy mentions it.
Duty to warn is the concept that is now being brought forward.
That seems to be part of the Hippocratic Oath for psychologists, is you have a duty to warn.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
And I think it refers, like, if someone is planning to shoot up a place, you know, if you had a Dylann Roof or one of these guys, you have a duty to warn the officials.
And they've written a book about it, too.
We end today's Democracy Now!
special by looking at President Trump's mental health and a growing movement among mental health professionals called Duty to Warn.
Last month, President Trump slurred his speech and mispronounced his words during an address on Israel.
White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders responded to questions about Trump's slurred speech by announcing he'd scheduled a physical health exam.
Meanwhile, New York Times chief White House reporter Maggie Haberman commented on Trump's behavior when she was interviewed on CNN last month.
Something is unleashed with him lately.
I don't know what is causing it.
I don't know how to describe it.
Oh, you see a difference in the past, what, days, weeks?
I think the last couple of days' tweets have been...
Unhinged.
Markedly accelerated in terms of seeming a little unmoored.
This all comes as Pentagon leaders told the Senate panel they would ignore any unlawful order by the president to launch a nuclear strike.
The testimony came as part of the first congressional hearings in more than 40 years on the president's authority to start a nuclear war.
Dr.
Bandy Lee is a forensic psychiatrist on the faculty of Yale School of Medicine.
Oh, Yaley.
That says a lot.
An internationally recognized expert on violence.
She edited the book The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.
27 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess a president.
The book became a bestseller when it was published in October.
I can't believe we didn't hear about this book.
I've seen no promotion.
We're not hanging out enough on left-wing media.
No, I haven't seen any promotion.
I haven't seen these people floating around except on Democracy Now, which is fringe.
Yeah, but it's damn good.
Let's continue.
Trump, 27 psychiatrists in...
The democracy now is damn good?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they have a lot of good fringe stuff.
Yeah, I use it.
This is not fringe.
This is a best-selling book.
Mental health experts assess a president.
The book became a bestseller when it was published in October.
I began by asking her about her concerns about President Trump's mental health.
It's actually historically unprecedented that so many mental health professionals have come forth with their concerns.
Uh-huh.
It says something about the mental health field, doesn't it?
Under any president of any party.
So it really is the first time that this many mental health professionals are coming together in a coalition.
We even have a website...
Stop that for a second.
I'm reminded of the...
97% of all scientists coming together in a coalition.
And that being talked about to an extreme, well, the 30,000 scientists who signed that letter denying this whole global warming thing are obfuscated.
Well, it's pushed, marginalized.
Marginalized.
And I wonder if somebody could put together a similar group of professionals that would have the opposite opinion.
To be marginalized?
Hey guys, you want to be marginalized?
Come over here.
Sign this document.
Under any president of any party.
So it really is the first time that this many mental health professionals are coming together in a coalition.
We even have a website now, dangerouscase.org, where the public and lawmakers can discourse with us.
Discourse with us.
Wow.
Hey, want to discourse with me, baby?
I remember when I was a kid, we thought it was really funny, and we said, yes, I want to have verbal intercourse with you.
A dangerouscase.org, where the public and lawmakers can discourse with us.
There are thousands of us at this point.
Lay out what your concerns are as a psychiatrist.
So our concerns are that someone with this level of mental instability and impairment has this much power in the office of the presidency, basically the power to start a devastating war, to launch nuclear missiles without any inhibition.
You saw from the hearings that there is very little inhibition in place right now.
Within five minutes of The commander-in-chief's orders nuclear missiles could be launched without question.
And how does that relate to his mental fitness?
Leading the witness.
And, of course, his decision-making capacity.
Having such levels of impulsivity, having a loose grip on reality...
And being so fragile in his ability to cope with ordinary stresses, such as basic criticisms or unflattering news, will tend to unravel, especially in times of heightened stress, such as under the special counsel's investigations.
What is most concerning for us...
I like Judy.
Mm, mm, mm.
That's Amy.
Amy, I'm sorry.
I like how she adds the, oh, the investigation is adding so much stress.
She has no idea how much stress or not.
Will tend to unravel, especially in times of heightened stress, such as under the special counsel's investigations.
What is most concerning for us is that his way of coping with this critical sense of need at every moment so much to the point where he cannot think of the past or the future or consequences.
The main urgency is to quench the need at the moment, and the way he does this is by burnishing his power, by going to belligerent language or affirming conflicts and others' sense of the world is a threatening place where you have to be violent.
So I've been in therapy.
I like therapy.
But she said nothing that has anything to do with his issue.
So she would say, well, it seems like he has a mother issue, a father issue, an authority issue.
No, she says nothing.
None of that.
She's just unhinged.
She's unhinged, I tell you.
Now, this again, I think, I don't know if I'm going to stay with this scene forever, but this is again the pantsuit brigade thing.
I'm thinking the reason that we didn't hear of this book or why this book didn't get more play or the authors weren't floating around besides the fact that she sounds pretty dull is that the scheme in place, which I've described since the beginning, the scheme in place is not to get rid of Trump or to really get him out of office, which is what something like this is trying to do.
is to keep him in the news at a high-pitched level where you're going through the Trump rotation.
You're calling him unhiged one man.
They're unfit for office the next, incompetent, everything.
The liar, womanizer, hates women.
And because you want to get the base, the Democrat base to come out and vote in 2018.
If Trump is out, that ain't going to happen.
Yeah, but they also know that this is...
The media's got to do something.
They're complicit, for sure.
Well, they're totally complicit, but this particular book was marginalized, actually.
We talk about the other one.
That doesn't exist.
But this book has been marginalized.
I'm a bestseller.
That doesn't even mean anything anymore.
You know, bestsellers are kind of a statistical thing.
And it could be...
Hold on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Stop, stop, stop.
Bestseller, you said something very...
Best sellers are a statistical thing.
Yes.
The way they determine a best seller is kind of like more momentum than actual total sales.
Oh, I didn't realize.
And it depends on whose list you're talking about.
I agree with the list.
Yes, it could be.
It's like I'm a Marconi Award winner.
If I just leave it at that, it sounds like a big deal.
When you say in Holland, it's like, oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
It drops it.
What?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, fine.
All right, good.
But I did not know that books were not counted just pure by sales.
As far as I know, it's done on a kind of a statistical basis in terms of momentum of the book.
They can't do total sales because they don't have those numbers anymore.
Amazon has the numbers.
Yeah, you're right.
I remember talking about that.
And so they – so you have a number of booksellers that come in with their numbers and they're all typically the kind of – they're slanted – they're not going to Christian bookstores and asking whether they got any hot sellers there.
And they don't necessarily go to the publishers and the publishers will just push certain books anyway.
This is very sketchy, very – I mean – There's...
I'm sure I could get an argument from someone who puts...
Well, just so you know, I'm just looking at the Amazons.
The dangerous case of Donald Trump, 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess a president.
Number one bestseller in health, mind, and body.
Yeah, that's where it is.
There you go.
Yeah.
Got it.
Okay.
So it wasn't...
You know, when you say, Jesus is a bestseller, we never heard of it.
Yeah.
That's why.
Because it wasn't a bestseller.
It was just a book of carping shrinks who hate Trump.
But again, I still see this, especially with that woman, the way she sounds.
She seems like a pantsuit brigade type.
I bet you if you could ask if she'd vote for Hillary in 2020, she'd say yes.
This is a big deal.
Yeah, the Pantsuit Brigade, you mean?
Yeah, and Hillary running again.
I mean, it's actually Pantsuit Nation is the Facebook group.
I think that's where it comes from.
Pantsuit Nation.
We'll use that.
Yeah, Pantsuit Nation.
And I'm a member of the group.
Yeah, I know you are.
It's harsh.
I'm still questioning this, by the way.
Questioning what?
To your motives.
Why?
I mean, this is why.
This is completely unnecessary, uncalled for.
Yeah, you're right.
I don't know.
It's cloudy out.
It's raining.
Ah, okay.
Well, with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for the silent C in Yacht Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also...
In the morning to all ships at sea.
Subs in the water.
Boots on the ground, feet in the air, and all the Damienites out there.
Yes, in the morning to the Troll Room, noagendastream.com.
Good to see everybody there.
Handing me one-liners, doing your job.
Very good.
Thank you very much.
And in the morning to Archduke Nussbaum.
He brought us the artwork for Episode 9 or 9 or 5, Missile by Nike.
The title of that one.
This was the cardboard box, the No Agenda cardboard box for the homeless.
And it had a nice little ad.
I doubt if anybody even got the joke.
If you lived here, you'd be home now.
The execution was okay, but it was so funny in concept.
Yeah, we decided to go grab that.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can always find the artwork, where you can also upload artwork.
Our artists are fabulous, and they do this for us.
Every single show, there's new artwork.
We get to choose from a range we truly, truly, truly enjoyed and appreciated.
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Thank you.
All right, let's thank a few people who are executive and associate executive producers for show.
Nine, nine, six.
So we got four to go.
And we do have somebody that came in with a thousand bucks, so they're going to get double executive producer credit as will the people that did last, triple.
Yeah.
As did the people who contributed that much last show.
Yes.
We have to remember to put them on this list too.
Yes.
So Black Balls of Twit, Baron of Logan Square.
This is my last-ditch attempt to get John to unblock me on Twitter.
My Twitter handle is at Kevin Bay.
And, you know, I'm pretty sure that he's not blocked on Twitter.
I've had two or three guys that say, you blocked me!
And they're not blocked.
I'll go unblock him.
But I bet you I'll go there and he's not blocked.
He's not blocked.
Troubling.
Troubling.
And may I request some LPTV and small market FM karma?
Yes, of course.
Small market FM. Small market FM. Wait, wait.
I'm sorry.
I have several things in the works for which I need positive outcomes and being an LPTV and a small market FM at the bottom rung of the broadcast ladder.
I'm hoping the right things to happen for me in 2018.
Keep up the good work.
Gents, NJNK. This is interesting.
There's a lot of low power FM, the capabilities that the FCC has enabled for people to participate in.
They enable it, then they disable it, then they enable it, then they disable it.
But really, what is the...
I mean, it just seems like an arachnism.
It's kind of old school.
I mean, we wish you tons of karma for the venture.
I'm just curious.
I misread his thing as NJJK. Oh, no jingles.
Just karma.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
You've got karma.
Yes.
Got it.
Yes, the small market FM thing is interesting.
Well, they got to do something because the internet is going to push a lot of these guys out of business if they don't.
Well, there's that.
But, you know, it's just over-the-air broadcast is just going to diminish.
I just don't see a big future.
Timothy Gross, 33.
I wish I could still get somebody to clean up our shows and we could give them away to some of the over-the-air broadcasters.
Yeah, dream on.
Dream on.
We had a guy who was doing okay.
It's my fault.
I screwed it up.
That's what you say every couple of months.
Timothy Gross, St.
Petersburg, Florida, 333.33.
John and Adam, after much goading harassment and the triple douchebag call-out from my dear friend Sir Francis of SRQ on episode 978, I'm finally making my first donation.
He hit me in the mouth several months ago, and I've been an avid listener ever since.
I was initially skeptical of his recommendation to listen to the show, as Sir Francis was a longtime bushy.
Needless to say, your spot-on analysis of the M5M Helped him see the light and has kept me not only tuned in, but sane as well.
We will be celebrating Sir Francis' birthday on Friday.
And I thought, what better time to make my first donation and in honor of his Big 5-0.
Is he on the birthday list?
Oh, probably not.
Hold on.
Sir Francis.
Sir Francis, Big 5-0.
What date?
It doesn't say, but...
On Friday.
Okay.
Tomorrow.
And it's Sir Francis of SRQ. Francis of SRQ, Big 5-0 tomorrow.
Okay, got it.
I'm looking forward to his upcoming announcement to No Agenda listeners that he will be opening his beautiful North Carolina vacation home shortly to other No Agenda listeners.
Way to go, Sir Francis.
Please provide the requisite de-douching for myself.
And then, whoopee, get out of my vagina.
Putin, don't worry.
Be happy.
Stalzito Schiavo.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave in Italian, yes.
And a health karma from my friend Mark Maluccio.
Maluccio.
Keep it a good word.
We first have to...
Oh, no, we don't have to.
He got a triple douchebag called.
Okay, I got it.
D-douching first.
You've been de-douched.
Get out of my vagina!
Don't worry.
Be happy.
Don't worry.
Be happy.
Shut up, slave!
You've got karma.
You've been de-douched.
The recent education segments have been fantastic.
As always, keep up with the good work for jingles.
I'd like numbers station, two to the head, and a jobs karma.
And if it isn't asking too much, I'd like a drone again at the end of the show.
Ah, okay.
Let me write that down.
Hold on a second.
The full track, I guess.
Drone again.
Naturally.
Drone again.
Naturally.
And he wants a karma.
He wants a number station.
Number station, two to the head, jobs, Karma.
Okay.
India, Tango, Mike.
Stand by.
33, 33, 33.
Rob Eliza, out.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Karma.
Karma.
Niels Bonnaker, $333 from Deutschland.
He mentions that he was named a Baronet when he's actually a Viscount.
Yes, that will be corrected in the title change segment.
Okay.
He says, thanks for listening.
Apparently, he can't get through to us.
Anyway, $333.
I'm sorry, can I just say that I believe this is from the previous spreadsheet?
Again?
Yep.
Is this one coming up?
No, Niels Bonnaker.
I don't remember that.
Okay, I'm going to look at 9.
And I'll tell you this, that the totals seem right.
9.95.
Oh, no, he gave us...
Oh, dude, he became an instantite on the last show.
It was $1,000.
So I stand corrected.
What?
You're standing?
I'm sitting.
Joshua, that's what he said.
He just donated again.
Got it.
My mistake.
My mistake.
But we should just upgrade him to Vicon because apparently he's given money before.
It was never an instantite.
Right.
Joshua Wychupin, or Wychupin, one of the two.
23334, become an executive, associate executive, producer for show 996.
Glad to have finally made it to knighthood, accounting below.
Wanted to achieve knighthood on show 1000, so I've been waiting it out for a bit.
Congrats on making it this far.
We look forward to another 1,000.
I even passed up the double credits you offered to do it.
I would like to be knighted Sir J.W. Knight of the social media.
I'd also like to call out Dr.
John DeLeon, who hit me in the mouth several years ago as a man overboard.
Ah, shit.
I should have had that ready.
Man overboard.
I can do it.
Man overboard!
Yeah, pretty close.
Man overboard!
Yeah, like that.
He emphasizes the overboard more than I do.
I've not heard him donate in several years, and although he has a PhD, and I don't, I beat him to what really matters, knighthood, so he can suck it.
I would love to get some jobs karma followed by a little girl yay and a MILF call out.
Kicker for Kirsten.
Photo attached to my email.
My smoking hot wife of nearly nine years.
And Melissa too.
John's wife.
If I could get a single malt.
Single malt.
Melissa.
Okay.
Ah, John DeLeon.
I got it.
DeLeon.
Yes, I got it.
I understand it.
If I could get a single malt scotch and horny milfs in the nighting ceremony, that would be great.
Okay!
We will put that in.
Yeah, we will put that in.
Absolutely.
I'm going to do it in a little different order, if you don't mind.
Milfs!
That's one mother I liked of.
Oh my gosh!
Can you see that juice?
Yay!
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
You've got karma.
And I'm putting single malt scotch and horny milfs at the table.
Single malt scotch and horny milfs.
And why not?
Sounds groovy.
Last but not least, Dennis Price, $200, Pine Grove, California.
2017 was another great year for you guys, even though I can't remember any of it.
Happy New Year, Dennis.
That concludes our list of executive, associate executive, producers for show 996.
Actually, we have, I had an in-hand donation.
Oh, in-hand.
In-hand, yes.
Let me see if I can find it.
Yes, I had the anonymous CPA. I had lunch with the anonymous CPA in Austin, who was from California, and he dropped by.
And handed us a check for $3,333.33.
How about that?
Well, he goes right to the top.
He goes right to the top.
So he's an Insta Baron.
He's an Insta Baron.
He will be known as Baron Sir Anonymous CPA. And he said the reason for this donation amount, he says, I've been listening since show number one.
Which is...
That's what I said.
I said, no wonder you're kind of going bald.
Sorry, sorry.
Woo!
Exactly.
And...
He actually played the wrong clip.
I played one of his clips.
He does accounting stuff for actual billionaires.
People who pay like $50 million a year in taxes.
Very interesting, first of all.
He brought little pieces of paper, and he showed me exactly how someone making enough money to be paying between $10 and $50 million a year.
You're probably on the shy side of being a billionaire, but you're definitely up there.
He says, every single case, they're all paying more taxes.
And in most cases, it's probably about one...
You mean from the new tax bill?
Yeah, the new tax bill.
The new tax bill is supposed to be benefiting the rich.
Bullshit.
And he said, this is one of the reasons why I love No Agenda so much.
He said, because now that I see again that the media is so...
He's dishonest about this, and not just the media, but the entire political operatic is dishonest about it.
He said, here's something I actually know about.
You know, like, Adam, when you talk about aviation, you actually know about aviation.
I said, yeah.
He said, so I just consider everything to be bullcrap.
And the No Agenda show, he says, I think this amount is pretty much what it costs for a master class in college.
And that's how he came up with the numbers.
It's about $3,500 probably.
And so he considers our show to be a master class.
Yeah, and saying the media is full of crap.
Yeah.
They lie.
Yes, yes.
So he wants to be known as the anonymous CPA. He will be a baron, yes.
Just as an aside, not knowing, I wasn't at the conversation, but it seems to me, yeah, their tax bracket went down a couple points, but They get a lot of benefits from all the properties they own and all the real estate taxes that they now don't get to pay, which is a lot.
And so they take a beating on that, and they take a beating on sales tax, and they take a beating on all kinds of things.
Now, although they get the media, the M5M has been going on about this two-point dip in their overall tax rate, but It's just nonsense.
I mean, and they just do it incessantly.
It's like that crazy group of clips you played earlier about Trump being unhinged.
He's crazy.
He has a small penis.
And so he's our go-to guy now for stuff like this, which is great.
Yeah, that's really, really good.
And he really does the legal side of it all.
He knows the laws inside out.
So he's a great addition to the Noagenda family.
Of course, he's been here since episode one, and I look forward to inducting him to the round table of the Noagenda Knights and Dames and handing him his Baron sash.
Later on.
And he sent me a message here.
Jingles, I'd like to be dedouched.
Followed by, can you see that juice?
Then Pelosi, jobs, jobs, jobs.
Trump, jobs, jobs, jobs.
Then Angela Merkel, arbeite, arbeite, arbeite.
Which I hadn't heard in a while.
But let me deduce him first.
Hold on.
Before we throw the juice in there.
Here we go.
You've been dedouched.
Oh!
Oh my gosh!
Can you see that juice?
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
Albert, Albert, Albert.
You've got karma.
There you go.
And we thank him profusely.
For this fantastic donation.
Really helped the numbers for today's show.
It really did.
Really appreciated.
Nice guy, too.
Nice guy.
All right.
So all of these credits that you just heard, our associate executive producers and our executive producers, are actual credits.
They can be used.
They are recognized by production houses.
They are recognized by the producer guilds.
You can put them anywhere, and it does appear to help people, certainly in these troubling times of trying to get work that you can use your poli-sci degree for.
So, thank you again.
And remember, we'll be thanking more people, $50 and up.
And another show coming up on Sunday.
Please remember us for that show at...
Dvorak.org slash NA. And you learned so much.
Please take the knowledge.
Go out there.
Propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Shut up, flame.
There's my wolf howl.
Shut up, slave!
By the way, I have a Shut Up Slave little segment, little tidbit here.
I got a note from one of our producers.
I'll just call him AC for now.
Yeah, coincidental.
Since my son's birthday is 999, and I was fired from a shitty startup for going to the hospital for his birth instead of working my 120 hours a week, and I am soon to find myself bouncing out of another one for not being, quote, a good fit for the company culture.
Sounds like a no agenda guy to me, by the way.
Yeah, yeah.
Patently unhirable.
Good man.
I present you with some exclusive gifts in lieu of being unable to be deduced for that episode.
After you mention your love for the show Black Mirror, which I just arose from a single night dose of watching the whole effing season, here's some screenshots from the new behavior scoring app my current day job is going to be using to replace performance evaluations.
It is literally a copy of Tinder.
Where you swipe left and right as people who you work with appear on your app.
And after a little bit of time, it generates a behavior score which can be used to fire your ass in the morning.
The future is closer than we think.
You've got to see this.
It's the rhabitapp.com.
You want me to look it up now?
Yeah, you might as well.
I mean, he sent me some screenshots, which I'm going to put in the show notes, which will be 996.noagendanotes.com.
Is it r.
or just rhabit?
rhabitapp.com.
And so I see here on the app, I see a junior software engineer, and there's already a comment.
When others talk to Joey, he pays attention and does not do other things on the side.
He listens generously.
Then you have all these different...
Ratings.
I mean, this is exactly what Black Mirror was just for the workplace, and it's disturbing.
I got rhabitapp.com nothing.
R-H-A-B-B-I-T-A-P-P. One B. R-H-A-B-I-T-A-P-P. Oh, what am I thinking?
I don't know what you're thinking.
I'm thinking rabbit.
It sounds like a rabbit thing.
Yeah, so performance management will never be the same.
It sounds like stack ranking in a different form.
But the way it is, so you're near your colleague, and you're like, you know, I'm going to do a comment.
I'm going to put a little thing in the app about him.
He listens well.
He's good.
Swipe right.
This is like secret police time.
Oh yeah.
This has all been secret police.
That's what the stack ranking is.
But this is codifying it in a very...
In a lame kind of...
You're right.
A Tinder grinder.
Yeah, it's Tinder.
I think Grindr's funnier.
It makes more sense.
About what we do, team.
Rabbit is a mobile-first performance management experience that makes the annual review obsolete.
Uh-huh.
This thing's great.
Oh, brother.
Yeah, Professor Ted.
This is definitely a classic.
Only on no agenda.
Have you been following the self-serve law in Oregon?
No, were they changing it again?
Well, I don't know what changed other than as of January 1st, now you can have self-serve gas stations and the Oregonians are losing their crap over it on the face bag.
I can see that.
It's kind of a tradition in Oregon to hire two or three people to work at a gas station.
Now they won't have to hire them anymore.
People are afraid that other people don't know how to pump gas and they'll blow the place up.
Yeah.
Yeah, seriously.
And I'm not going to leave my child in the car while I'm pumping gas.
My kid could get kidnapped.
Yeah, because of all these fabulous Oregonian experts who've got degrees in pumping gas.
Yeah.
Well, we just took away those jobs.
Well, more people have bitched about the thing because you can't even get out of your car.
And...
But, you know, they pump the gas and then you, I don't know.
I mean, it's archaic in the first place that they have these people.
I mean, when I was a kid, yeah, they'd come out and pump your gas.
They'd open the hood.
They'd check your oil.
They'd wash your windows.
They'd give you a free map.
And this was when gasoline was 25 cents a gallon.
Good times.
And they check your tire pressure.
They put air in the tires.
They did all these things.
Yes.
Yes.
All good.
They've messed it all up.
Well, they just cheapened out on the whole thing, and there you go.
Margin squeeze.
Margin squeeze?
Okay, so anyway, one of the things that happened, just like yesterday or the day before, is this book excerpts from the new Michael Wolff book.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I have a bunch of clips about this.
Good.
I read the excerpt in New York Magazine, and I want to point out first and foremostly that Bannon did not say Donald Trump Jr.
committed an act of treason.
Which is the way the headline is reading.
He said, whether you think it's treasonous or just bad or not kosher, like three things like that, he should have called the FBI. He didn't say it was treasonous, which is just something I need to point out.
Well, everybody says he did.
Of course.
Of course.
And he's also going to be squashed like an egg.
Cracked like an egg on TV. Cracked like an egg.
Just going back to my theory about Jared, it seems to me that...
Why is this happening?
Why is this taking place?
This is your thesis I want to point out to everybody.
And you're sticking with it.
I like the thesis, I just haven't jumped on it.
No, it appears...
To get rid of him.
Well, no, they're going to make Trump Jr.
the fall guy for it, instead of getting rid of Kushner.
But Kushner's the problem.
Oh, I see.
I'm sorry.
I was misunderstanding where you were headed.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
I think that's a good theory.
Kushner's the problem.
And I think, if Trump had to choose, I'm just guessing, I think he probably would hate to have to disappoint Ivanka.
And Jared Kushner is the problem.
He is the bad actor in all this.
I think he's the money launderer.
He's got all kinds of problems with his real estate holdings in New York.
The Chinese own his ass.
Yeah, and his father was corrupt.
He went to jail.
Went to jail.
Yeah.
The animal doesn't change its stripes.
So anyway, that's what it feels like to me.
And of course, the president can pardon Jr., so he's not going to go to jail.
But then someone will take the fall.
It ends.
Jared's protected.
Which is sad for the Republic.
Don Jr.
Well, this book, Michael Wolfe is a...
He's a hack.
You know, he's pretty thorough.
He's not a complete hack.
And he knows how to write a book that sells.
And the thing that surprises me before I play any of these clips is that Wolf had done a book on the Murdochs.
Right.
That was his other claim to fame.
That was his first one, I think.
No, I think he's done it.
Well, look him up while I'm saying this and see how many books he's done.
I think he's done quite a few.
And his Murdoch book, he was good buddies with all the Murdochs, and then after the book came out, they hated him.
Because I heard him talking about this on a discussion show.
You'll be surprised by the books.
His first book in 79, White Kids.
Then in 92, Where We Stand, Can America Make It in the Global Race for Wealth, Health, and Happiness?
Then this one, 98, Burn Rate, How I Survived the Gold Rush Years on the Internet.
That one I've read.
Then Autumn of the Moguls, My Misadventures with the Titans, Posers and Money Guys who mastered and messed up big media.
Never heard of it.
Then The Man Who Owns the News, Inside the Secret World of Rupert Murdoch.
That was 2008.
And then Television in the New Television, The Unexpected Triumph of Old Media and the Digital Age.
Never heard of that one.
And then Fire and Fury.
So he's most well known for The Man Who Owns the News and Burn Rate.
Burn Rate, I think.
Didn't they also turn that into a movie?
Maybe.
Well, he – after he did the Murdoch book, which was a while ago, a few years ago, it makes no sense to me that he was ever invited in to do anything in the White House because Murdoch's close enough to Trump to have quashed the idea.
Or Trump – see, this is a – if anybody has a stumble and mumble and stammer, if there's a problem with Trump – I think, unlike Bush, he's not a reader.
Right.
So he probably never read the Murdoch book.
Unless it was on Audible.
George Bush used to read a book a week.
I don't know that Trump's ever read a book.
Probably.
He's hyperkinetic, so I don't see...
He doesn't have the patience for it, I don't think.
I think that might be true.
I think he'd rather have a briefing.
Right.
But if he knew anything about the Murdoch book, he wouldn't have let Wolf do anything because he knew it was going to be a slam piece.
But it was a hit piece.
And apparently Wolf was given free reign of the West Wing.
And he could just walk around and talk to everybody and everyone was happy to chat.
This was because of Bannon.
Banyan.
Banyan, yeah.
Yeah, Banyan invited him in and gave him the red carpet treatment.
Anyway, let's play a couple of these clips.
Here's the main clip one.
This is Banyan Kerfluffle on CBS.
As political breakups go, this is about as ugly as it gets.
The president splitting with Steve Bannon, one of his closest political allies, claiming...
Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency.
When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.
Until now, Bannon had continued to be a vocal supporter of the Trump agenda following his White House exit this summer.
But in a series of interviews with author Michael Wolff, including some at the White House, Bannon mocked the president and his family.
And accused Donald Trump Jr.
of treason for his June 2016 meeting with Russians who had offered incriminating information on Hillary Clinton.
Bannon said, quote, even if you thought that this was not treasonous or unpatriotic, and I happen to think it's all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.
He then speculated that Trump Jr.
had also involved his father in the meeting, a claim that White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders denied.
I think furious, disgusted would probably certainly fit when you make such outrageous claims and completely false claims against the president, his administration, and his family.
Sanders pointed out that Bannon contradicted his characterization of the Russia probe to 60 Minutes in September.
There's nothing to the Russia investigation.
It's a waste of time.
According to the book, now Bannon says he believes the investigation will focus on money laundering and Trump Jr.
will, quote, crack like an egg under scrutiny from the special counsel.
Bannon was campaign CEO and chief strategist in the West Wing, a position the White House called equivalent to the chief of staff.
I like Mr.
Bannon.
He's a friend of mine.
Today, Mr.
Trump blasted Bannon, saying he had very little to do with our historic victory.
Steve Bannon doesn't represent my base.
He's only in it for himself.
I find this to be the political breakup story of the century.
A lot of people are calling you that, yeah.
And I think you're dead right.
And just think about their makeup sex.
It's going to be great.
Although, which is probably, you're probably right there, too.
This whole thing could be something of a fake.
But did you notice the whip saw in there?
No.
It's a minor one, but it's a good one, but CBS style.
They're not as good at it as NBC, but Bannon Kerfuffle Isos.
Okay, hold on.
Kerfuffle Isos, yeah.
A position the White House called equivalent to the Chief of Staff.
I like Mr.
Bannon.
He's a friend of mine.
Yeah, yes.
Yeah, what's that clip got to do with anything?
Ah, it's just throwing it in there.
Yeah, just throwing it in.
Spice it up.
Spicing up nothing.
So let's go to part two of this.
There's only a little piece.
As for election night, the book's author reports that the Trump team actually expected defeat.
And as election results rolled in, showing Trump on the path to victory, Don Jr.
told a friend, quote, he looked as if he had seen a ghost.
The White House called this trashy tabloid fiction, Jeff.
Ha ha ha ha.
So that's kind of interesting.
Now, CNBC did a rundown right in the middle of their stock analysis on Fast Money.
Really?
Or whatever, one of them.
And...
I can play it.
It's two minutes.
It's very similar.
I'm interested.
I think you have to call this a Trump camp civil war that exploded today here in Washington, D.C. with the release of excerpts from Michael Wolff's new book on the first days of the Trump White House here in Washington, D.C. Some dramatic scenes as recounted by Wolff, denied by some, but nonetheless causing a political firestorm Here in Washington, D.C., we saw the president issue a statement the likes of which few have ever seen.
Here's an excerpt from what the president had to say about Steve Bannon, who was quoted extensively in the book.
The president said he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was.
It is the only thing he does well.
Steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence To fool a few people with no access and no clue whom he helped write phony books.
We also saw the press briefing with Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the press secretary here.
She was asked whether or not the American people should be concerned about the mental fitness of the President of the United States.
And here's how she responded.
I think the president and the people of this country should be concerned about the mental fitness of the leader of North Korea.
He's made repeated threats.
He's tested missiles time and time again for years.
And this is a president who's not going to tower down and is not going to be weak and is going to make sure that he does what he's promised to do, and that's stand up and protect the American people.
And all of this coming on a day after the president gathered the world's attention with a tweet about North Korea itself saying this in a missive last night.
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un just stated that the nuclear button on his desk is on his desk at all times.
Will someone from his depleted and food-starved regime please inform him that I, too, have a nuclear button, but it is much bigger and more powerful one than his, and my button works?
A lot of critics on that tweet saying that the president is engaging in unnecessary and childish nuclear brinksmanship with the leader of North Korea.
The president's defenders in the wake of that, Melissa, said, no, he's simply standing up to the leader of North Korea.
And the previous approach of more docile statements by presidents, to put it that way, hasn't worked.
That's what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said here at the White House today.
The president's simply standing up for America with a tweet like that.
Back over to you.
Yeah, I think my theory fits very well with this.
For this sudden breakup.
He's lost his mind.
And this is not a Banyan book.
This is him being interviewed and quoting in the book.
And it just seems so obvious.
And it calls out Trump Jr.
specifically when I crack him like an egg.
Because he's got to take the fall.
Someone has to take the fall.
And Mueller's got to have somebody.
And it's not going to be Jared because that would upset Ivanka.
It's that pathetic.
I think the fired guy, I don't think he can do it.
I don't think he needed a catalyst and he got it from this.
I'm not going to argue with you on this one because the logic is...
Spot on.
It's good.
It fits.
It fits.
You're eating.
No, I'm not.
I'm not eating anything.
No, no.
I am opening up the bag of lozenges.
Oh.
And I will be sucking on one in a second.
So I don't have this annoying cough.
Yeah, your cough always stays with you for a long time.
Yeah, that's a problem.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so let's go to...
I only have one clip left, I think.
And that is the one...
This is the tidbits.
This I got from NBC. And...
They had some reporter with a kind of a, in your term, a puker style reporter.
All right!
Do you want me to play the clip?
And this is, wait, I just want to set this up.
This is only the very end of his report because he added a number of tidbits and one of them is so blatantly bullcrap Yeah, I want to discuss it and see if you feel the same way.
Fire and Fury, reportedly based on more than 200 interviews many conducted inside the West Wing, also reignites questions about Mr.
Trump's view of women, reportedly calling aide Hope Hicks a piece of tail in front of her and using a vulgar expletive to describe Sally Yates, the acting attorney general, who he would go on to fire.
As for his inauguration day, the soon-to-be-president author Michael Wolff writes was angry, feeling slighted by the Obamas and celebrities who refused to perform for him.
Bearing the brunt, Melania Trump, who according to the book, seemed on the verge of tears.
The first lady's office dismissing it all as fiction.
Wolff claims first daughter Ivanka and husband Jared Kushner have entertained their own political future, agreeing she'd be the one to run for president.
The author also airing dirty laundry about the president's unusual habits and demands at the White House, reprimanding the housekeeping staff for picking up his shirt, saying, if my shirt's on the floor, it's because I want it on the floor.
That's where I hang up all my clothes.
So that sounds like, I mean, here's a guy that's a billionaire, lives in this crazy, ridiculous, he has these ridiculous homes that he lives in in Manhattan and elsewhere.
And he's used to having a lot of slave servants.
I would think.
Probably.
I don't know.
And there's no way a guy like that, especially if he's that sloppy, to throw his shirt on the floor, that would tell the person not to pick it up.
Does this make any sense to you?
Yeah, you know, we had the same kinds of rumors from the Clinton White House, from the Obama White House, you know, and it was always dismissed as rumor and bullcrap.
So let's do the same now.
Yeah, I think it's total rumor and bull crap because there's no way a guy who is used to having housekeepers around all the time would reprimand one for picking up a shirt he just threw on the floor because he's a slob.
So is that a sloppy billionaire or slobby billionaire?
I think slobby.
And I would think, by the way, maybe the real message here is that He's a slob.
They're trying to get that.
So maybe it's a new thing in the tree rotation.
He's a slob.
Yeah.
He's a slob.
He just leaves stuff on the floor and likes it on the floor.
He throws it on the floor and he likes it on the floor.
He likes it that way.
Leave it.
Yeah, this is bullcrap.
This is total bullcrap.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
But there's a reason for it and we'll see if my theory holds water.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Meanwhile, Trump's other buddy, Roger Stone, he must be bummed out that he's not in these big, important conversations, although he has the Cannabis Coalition.
For the true legalization of marijuana.
And here's their latest commercial.
For medical purposes, absolutely it's fine.
Now, Attorney General Jeff Sessions has proposed a crackdown on state-legalized medical marijuana in violation of the President's pledge.
Good people don't smoke marijuana.
Join the United States Cannabis Coalition.
Urge President Trump to keep his pledge.
I think medical should happen, right?
Don't we agree?
I mean, I think so.
Yeah, but it's not.
Well, it's not not happening.
Well, Attorney General Jeff Sessions has doubled down He hasn't done anything yet, though.
He's a big talker.
He's talking, yeah, he's talking.
He says, so here we go.
This is from AP. He has rescinded an Obama-era policy that paved the way for legalized marijuana to flourish in states across the country, creating new confusion about enforcement and used just three days after a new legalization law went into effect in California.
A top law enforcement official announced the change Thursday.
Instead of the previous lenient federal enforcement policy, Sessions' new stance will instead let federal prosecutors where marijuana is legal decide how aggressively to enforce longstanding federal law prohibiting it.
Which is more talk, I guess.
Yeah.
Doesn't really mean anything.
Unless he's actually trying to get fired.
I've always had this kind of subtle theory or secondary theory that Sessions, he's already got his retirement benefits from being a U.S. senator.
Yeah.
And giving him this job allows him to double dip so he can get a retirement benefit from being the Attorney General of the United States.
Nice.
So he'll have it made.
And, I mean, he keeps doing stuff like this.
He must know Trump's attitude about it.
And just because he doesn't think people, nice people don't smoke pot under any circumstances, they should all be in jail.
That's right.
Lock me up.
It's like asking for trouble.
Lock me up.
It's very disappointing.
That's good for trouble.
It's disappointing.
I don't want it.
It's not disappointing if he is trying to get fired.
Gotcha.
From his perspective.
Yep.
Gotcha.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
So, I noticed I had something here.
I did have a...
You're saying so well.
Yeah, the one Trump.
I got the Trump.
One last Trump.
This was brought up early in the progression of the...
When they had the...
Kim Jong-un, My Buttons Bigger Than Yours, and then the book, which kind of overshadowed that.
And early on, there was this, but they've kind of dropped it from discussion.
But I want to bring it back in because on apparently Monday or Tuesday, he's going to do the Trump Awards.
President Trump also went after the media today, tweeting, I will be announcing the most dishonest and corrupt media awards of the year on Monday at 5 o'clock.
Subjects will cover dishonesty and bad reporting in various categories from the fake news media.
Stay tuned.
I mean, this has got to be a, this has got to be, this will be next week's news.
Will he have celebrities who are coming on stage to present these awards or is he just going to do them?
He's going to do like a PowerPoint?
James Woods.
That's about it.
Mike Cernovich.
Oh yeah, Cernovich, James Woods.
And what's the comedian with no show?
Oh, Miller.
Dennis Miller.
Well, Dennis Miller, too, and then Tim the Tool Time guy.
Who's that?
That guy?
Oh, right, yeah, that guy.
Yeah, so they could get probably about 10 people that come out and give these awards.
Maybe a country guy.
Taylor Swift!
She won't do it, but she would be the right person.
Tim Allen, that's his name.
Oh, yeah, Tim Allen, definitely.
He should come out.
Yeah, that would be great.
And Clint Eastwood, you got Clint, he'll do something.
Come out with a chair.
Yeah, do the chair thing again.
Yeah, it would be very entertaining if they organized it right.
But you know, the funny thing is about Trump, even though he worked in that apprentice job, and you think you know a little bit more about show business, or you have some good producers, directors that could help him.
He never makes a good show of anything.
Maybe he'll surprise and delight us.
I don't know.
I doubt it.
Yeah, you're probably right.
It's probably going to be lame.
Yeah, it's going to be lame, but it could be great.
But it'll be funny.
It'll be funny for sure.
A little housekeeping.
We had a donation on the previous show, and although I think we did know it, we could not figure out the acronym MGTOW. I have a clip to explain it.
So that's where we're going to go with it.
This symbol right here stands for MGTOW. And I'll bet 98% of my viewers watching this have no idea what that means.
But MGTOW stands for men going their own way.
And the official definition of MGTOW here, I'll just read it word for word here, is...
Men going their own way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else.
It is the manifestation of one word, no, injecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is, looking to no one else for social cues, refusing to bow, serve, or kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility, and living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't.
There you go.
MGTOW. Men going their own way.
So this was in one of the donations?
Somebody said MGTOW? Yeah, someone said something about MGTOW and we didn't know what it was.
And this is part of the red pill movement.
Men going their own way.
Well, the idea is that you also don't have to behave like a man.
And this is a big thing that is probably undervalued.
You know, man up, be like a man.
You know, those kinds of terms.
And there's a large group of men who don't want to have it anymore.
They don't want to man up?
I guess not.
I guess not.
Does this mean that they're stronger than strong men?
No, they're checking out of the whole societal system.
Oh, they're just checking out?
Of where men belong and how men are supposed to behave, and they just don't want to do it anymore.
They're tired of it.
How's that different from a hermit?
Not much.
The guy was recording it in the woods.
Near a waterfall.
So, yeah.
Maybe that's what it is.
MGTOW equals hermit.
I don't know.
But, yeah.
I can see some validity to it.
So, Ted Gazinski was MGTOW. MGTOW. Yeah, totally.
UTOW. Ughtau.
What's that mean?
Unabombers go their own way.
Ughtau.
We also discussed the war on gaming.
And the war on gaming, or gamers specifically, as we deconstructed in the previous episode, we believe is cropping up because the gamers, and this goes back to Gamergate and the social justice warriors, the gamers were also responsible for Donald Trump.
So we have to get rid of them.
And just as an extra bonus, they're not watching television.
They're not getting our ads.
So something needs to be done about them.
And there was a recent swatting episode.
This has come up for years now on the show.
And it is done often with gaming, but also in other instances.
Did you have a clip?
Because I have a clip.
Yeah, why don't we play your clip and I can go into my package.
Do it.
Was it a swatting death?
Yeah.
FBI in San Francisco is now speaking out about a prank among gamers known as swatting.
One case recently turned deadly in Kansas.
The idea is get the SWAT team out.
Trick the SWAT team.
The people who perpetrate this are looking for a tactical response.
Investigators believe 25-year-old Tyler Barris called Wichita police from Los Angeles.
He told investigators he had his mom and little brother at gunpoint.
When the SWAT team arrived, the victim, 28-year-old Andrew Fitch, opened the door and was shot to death by officers.
And the FBI says the crimes often involve gamers who have their webcams rolling, which means that the pranksters can then watch a live feed of the raids.
That victim doesn't even realize that this is being done to them, and they want to record this live stream as SWAT is coming into the house.
They want to see armed officers.
They want to see bomb dogs, helicopters.
That's all part of the fun they see in this, and that can be very devastating.
Yeah, that's a good background, or it's similar to my setup.
I thought it was when you hear the NPR version of the story, and I have three clips here, three short clips.
You can tell where they're really going with this.
They really want to get the gamers.
Here's the NPR war on gaming setup.
Well, gamers are closely watching the case of Tyler Barris, who was arrested in Los Angeles, in connection with the shooting death of Andrew Finch in Wichita, Kansas.
Let's back up.
Last week, someone made a phone call to Wichita's 911 to falsely report a shooting and hostage situation at a home there.
It's called SWATing.
The hope is to lure a SWAT team to the address given.
It's often used in online gaming to throw other gamers off.
Then someone with the handle SWATistic, we're not sure if it's Tyler Barris, spoke on the YouTube channel Drama Alert and took responsibility for making the call.
But here's what he said about the resulting shooting.
Yeah, the call was made by me, but as far as the whole incident, you could point the finger at numerous people.
You could point the finger at the cop who killed someone.
You could point the finger at the guy who made the call.
You could point the finger at the person who provided the address saying, oh, look, this is where I live.
Go ahead and SWAT me.
By that, he might have meant another gamer.
But not only did the caller lure the SWAT team to Andrew Finch's home after police shot and killed the 28-year-old unarmed father because they thought he was reaching for a gun, it was discovered that the caller had sent them to the wrong address.
Now, to me, for NPR to put an unconfirmed YouTube statement on the air, even though they kind of were couchy about it, it's like, it's not very journalistic.
But they're out to get the gamers, and gamers are weird.
Well, according to other reporting, a gamer told an interviewer on YouTube that a feud had developed between two gamers over $1.50 wager and an accidental virtual killing.
This is in the online game, and that prompted this swatting.
Again, you know, as bad as it is, made worse by a wrong address.
And we're understanding that swatters can mask where they're calling from and make it look like a local call.
Ooh!
What are gamers in Kansas saying?
I think this has really struck home for a lot of gamers.
You hear about swatting happening to celebrities, you hear about swatting happening to people who live stream for a living, but you don't hear about swatting happening next door.
So for Kansas gamers in particular, I think it's really helped them to realize just that it can happen to anybody and how much you need to be careful with maintaining your offline privacy.
Gamers have also said they're closely following what happens to Barris.
One told me just yesterday that if Barris does get a misdemeanor or gets off free, that he expects swatting will increase.
That's definitely something they fear.
And swatting is certainly something not condoned by the vast majority of gamers.
Some regard it as a form of cheating or foul play.
So I think it's really, really shaken the gaming community in the area.
So they're crazy.
They're just crazy.
They're doing stuff for $1.50 wagers and we got to do something.
So let's bring in the big guns.
Enter Catherine Clark.
Do you remember her?
Catherine Clark.
Was she the lawyer in the Simpson case?
No.
That's Marsha Clark.
Marsha Clark.
I got the wrong Clark.
No.
She is a representative from...
Where is she from?
Democrat, no doubt.
Let me just check the book of knowledge for a moment.
She is...
What's her district?
Connecticut.
New Haven, Connecticut.
Democrat.
She was a big part of Gamergate.
She identifies, of course, as a social justice warrior.
And she was the one that told South by Southwest to get rid of your particular panels with certain people on it because they're all a member of these horribly misogynistic gamers in the whole Gamergate controversy.
So we bring her in and I think you'll be hearing a lot more from her.
I mean, that's horrific.
Do you have any idea?
I mean, why does this happen?
Is it vengeance?
Why are people doing this to other people?
This came out of the online gaming world and was done so that they could watch the police response as people are watching each other play games online.
So they can watch it live happen through the game that's happening live.
Exactly.
But now it's really being used outside of the gaming world in a more widespread way.
And it is extremely dangerous, not only to the victims, as we've seen play out so sadly in Wichita, but also...
For police who are making an armed response and don't know what they are going to find.
Obviously, this is a terrible situation for Andrew Finch's family and for him, but also for the officers involved who have looked like they made the best judgment they could, but have shot an innocent man and killed him.
So, I'm pretty sure we're going to be hearing more from Ms.
Clark and more about the gamers, and I'm not quite sure what they're going to do, but it's going to be, I think, a conversation equal to that of guns.
Particularly for the 2018 election and the 2020 election.
We need to get these gamers out of the picture, or at least paint them as evil.
I'm not going to argue this theory of yours.
It makes some sense.
I think it's kind of desperation because you have to go through these poor bastards.
They also believe that $100,000 worth of Facebook ads through the election, so why not?
There you go.
Yeah, the $100,000 worth of ads.
Yeah.
I want to make just some comments about this SWATing incident.
Okay.
Which is, first of all, why does Wichita, Kansas have a SWATing opera, SWAT opera, SWAT team?
What kind of terrorism goes on?
What are we using SWAT teams for nowadays?
How much terrorism is there in Wichita, Kansas?
You need a SWAT team.
I'm sure they got all the gear, too, all those crazy military things that the government's given to all these little towns.
Oh, yeah.
That's one thing.
How do you get to the local 911 number from Los Angeles?
I don't know how that is even possible.
I mean, you could call the local police and just claim that it's an emergency and call the wrong number.
I know how you can spoof the call so nobody can kind of figure out where you're coming from, but I don't know how you get into that system from there.
What about the cop just walks in and shoots this guy?
Well...
These cops are...
I don't care about this.
Oh, it's so dangerous because he's worried about his life.
These guys are covered with body armor.
Yeah.
It's not as though there's a guy's naked walking in and saying, hey, you're under arrest.
He's covered with body armor.
And they used to just kill your dog.
Now they kill you.
They kill the dog, too, if they can.
This is...
I think this is bringing up more issues than just the gamers and their stupid swatting thing.
The fact that they can't even get the address right.
They got the wrong address.
They don't do any due diligence.
They just come barreling in because somebody gave them an address.
Is that how it works?
Are the cops that stupid?
They're jumpy.
They don't know what to expect.
I wasn't there.
It's hard to...
Does anybody knock on the door and say, come out with your hands up like they used to in the olden days?
Yeah, I think the problem was he didn't put his hands up and then he put his hand down to reach near his belt and they shot him.
Oh yeah, and immediately shoot him.
Just shoot him.
Yeah.
And as I've said before, you have to shoot to kill.
Now remember, the report was the guy's going to kill his wife and himself.
So they were jumpy.
You can understand that.
Very, the tactics are just off.
Agreed.
Agreed.
And if you're that jumpy, turn the job over to somebody else.
This guy shouldn't have been shot dead.
That's the one I'm trying to...
No.
Okay.
Gotcha.
But that's not the point of the story.
No, I don't know.
That's why I wanted to wait for you to finish.
Yeah, well, that was wrapping it up.
The point of the story is that these guys, they're out to get the gamers.
They're definitely out to get the gamers.
Which is going to be very funny because, you know, half the country is a gamer nowadays.
All professional athletes are gamers.
I mean, race car drivers are gamers.
Kids are gamers.
Everybody's, you know, not, I don't so much, but everybody I know has got some addiction to some game or other they're playing.
They should take up knitting.
Knitting a pantsuit.
Please.
It's all part of the pantsuit stuff.
Pantsuit Nation Pussyhat.
Pantsuit Pussyhat Nation.
P-S-P-H-N. There was an interesting report that handled a topic we've talked about on the show called self-moral licensing.
And we talked about that.
You mean moral self-licensing?
Moral self-licensing.
Sorry, moral self-licensing.
We talked about it in the context of the Ice Bucket Challenge.
And there's a lot of science behind this.
Science!
Science!
Just believe it, you fools!
There's a lot of research behind this that goes kind of like this.
If you do something, like changing your avatar, your icon on Twitter, or saying Trump is an asshat, orange wiener, then you feel so good about yourself that you really are just turned into an asshole.
And you don't do any other good things for people or any good things for society in general.
The National Bureau of Economic Research...
Did a study.
Excuse me.
Boy, between the two of us with the lozenges and the Tums.
Man, it was an old man podcast.
We're falling apart.
This is working paper 24-169.
Corporate social responsibility.
This was a big buzzword.
All companies, especially Silicon Valley companies I would wager, have a lot of CSR as it's known.
Corporate social responsibility has become a cornerstone of modern business practice developing from a why in the 1960s to a must today.
Early empirical evidence on both the demand and supply side has largely confirmed CSR's efficacy.
This paper combines theory with a large-scale natural field experiment to connect CSR to an important but often neglected behavior, employee misconduct, and shirking.
Shirking?
What's shirking?
Well, shirking technically means, you know, I'm not going to do that, I'll do it later.
Shirking your responsibility.
Shirking.
Let me just check.
Shirking.
Well, let's look it up.
Maybe it means something specific to employment.
Avoid or neglect a duty or responsibility.
Be unwilling to do something difficult.
Evade, dodge, avoid, sidestep, shun, skip, miss, etc.
Okay, I think you had it spot on.
So, because of corporate social responsibility...
They can connect that to an important but often neglected behavior, employee misconduct and shirking.
Through employing more than 3,000 workers, we find that our usage of CSR increases employee misbehavior.
20% more employees act detrimentally toward our firm by shirking on their primary job duty when we introduce CSR. Complementary treatments suggest that moral licensing is at work in that the doing-good nature of CSR induces workers to misbehave on another dimension that hurts the firm.
In this way, our data highlight a potential dark cloud of CSR and serve to forewarn that such business practices should not be blindly applied.
See, I love stuff like this.
When people really think that something's going to be really good and it's a policy or a law or an executive order or a tax change.
And we really don't know what the outcome is going to be.
And here you have it.
We're trying to do good.
What's the result?
People turn into a-holes.
I find that fascinating.
Yeah, it's kind of interesting and you see it everywhere.
Yeah.
What group is the most, you know, doing the moral self-licensing?
You know, the pussy hat is a good example.
It's moral self-licensing.
Yes.
All's good.
Now you wear the hat.
Get the pussy hat on.
Yeah, Trump stinks.
And you go home and everything's good.
So you're extrapolating.
But yeah, that's exactly what's going on.
Is you think you do something good by putting on the pantsuit, you think you do something good by putting on the pussy hat, and then you turn to a gigantic asshole.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
And people that aren't gigantic assholes are on this list.
In fact, I will be naming them.
These people are all good to go.
Starting with Patrick Hopel, H-O-P-P-E, on Deerfield, Wisconsin.
Came in at $150.
Archduke Nussbaum is back from Virginia Beach.
Yeah, I should have had his jingle ready.
I didn't realize he was going to be here on the list.
Not really much of a jingle.
I can do it.
Nussbaum!
Eh, pretty close.
I prefer this one.
Nussbaum!
You gotta admit.
Came in one, two, three, four, five.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's the best.
Stuart Morrison, 100.
See email.
Okay, we'll look at that later, but it's not going to get on now.
Unless he has something.
Maybe he's made night.
John Robineau.
Okay, now I'm going to feel bad if I don't look it up.
Yeah, you should, because it says see email exclamation mark.
That's meaning something there.
Yeah, this is Stuart Morrison.
And let me just go to the search engine on the scroll mail.
And he's actually written this a lot.
He's been a – He's good with the show.
So the nation knows.
I was reading an article on the origin of Hotmail.
I saw one of my old Dvorak Telecommunications Excellence Awards, which, by the way, I should reintroduce, but I need a sponsor.
The Telecommunications Award?
Award.
Is this for a product or a service?
It's generally for a product or something that's important that people didn't recognize.
That's what I put together these awards for.
Who were the former recipients?
Oh, there's a bunch of them.
We did it for about five or six years, and there's always more than one or two.
I mean, things like Frame Relay, the inventor of Frame Relay.
We'd get an award, and you'd come to get it, and you'd get to meet the guy who invented frame relay.
I mean, jeez, what more do you want in life?
I'm hard as we speak.
And know that war's not running.
But it's not a bad idea to reintroduce it, because it would be good publicity.
Well, who could we choose to win?
We've got to get a sponsor.
It'd have to be somebody big like Cisco.
Hmm.
Okay.
We'll think about it.
We probably have to, yeah.
Maybe we should update the whole award concept, not be for a telecommunications product.
I don't know.
It's mostly for the people.
It's for people.
I've always wanted to give an award to the guy who invented the RJ45 or the RJ11. That little clip.
Who invented that?
Do you know his name?
No.
It's almost impossible to find out.
Hmm.
But then every once in a while I pull one of those things and it gets hooked on a thing and it makes a big mess and I decided to.
Anyway, Stuart Morrison is $100.
John Robinet, $100.
Michael Peters, $100 from Vernon, Connecticut.
He's got a call on here.
Yeah, shout out to fellow producer here in Vernon, Connecticut, Dame Amanda Rosette of the Northeast.
I'm super jealous she went to see the pyramids.
I'm curious, do they really seem like they were built by hand ramps, rope, and copper chisels?
I don't know.
Good question.
I don't know.
Aliens, I think.
Baron Ladequin in Houston, Texas, 100.
Sir Chris Gray of the Isle of Wight.
I haven't heard from him for a while.
Problem is he's in Covington, Louisiana, so I don't know.
Larry Hay, Mooresville, North Carolina, Boo 8008.
Sir Got Nate over there in Sebastopol, 69, 69.
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Mahalo, 5-4-3-2.
Sir Payne in the Ass, Kevin up there in Richmond, Virginia, 5-4-3-2.
He's popularized it.
Eric Hochul in Berlin, Deutschland, 52.
And the following long list of people are the $50 donors, name and location.
Matthew Januszewski, our buddy in Chicago.
And Jason Deluzio, our buddy in Shadsford, Pennsylvania.
And that's it.
Two.
Man, we would have been screwed without the anonymous CPA. Yes, the anonymous CPA saved the day.
Yes.
All right, well, thank you.
Thank you to these people on the list, these good people on the list, and the good people on the list under the $50 mark.
That is for reasons of anonymity, but also the good people who may have even donated are on our sustaining donor programs, these subscriptions.
And it helps.
If you're a regular donor, please consider one of these.
We've got our 33-33s, our 20s, our 12-12s, 11-11s.
We've got our 8s, our 7s, our 6s, our 5s, and still 4s.
And still that one guy with $1?
No, I think it's $2.
That's okay.
It still comes in every month.
Well, we really appreciate that.
Setting a record, I think.
For $2 donations?
No, for somebody not getting cut off by PayPal.
Ah, yes, I gotcha.
And I heard from, was it Sir Bill in Osaka, he said that he can't transfer money to outside of Japan anymore via PayPal?
That's what he said.
Yeah, did he get in touch with you about that?
Yeah, he said something.
I sent him a note.
I said, well, look into it.
I never followed up, obviously.
Of course not.
It's our no agenda way.
But it doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah, me neither.
There's other ways of doing things.
We're going to have to figure out something.
Unless he was trying to send us more than $10,000.
Yeah, well, I'll fly over there and pick that up.
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ITM. ITM, indeed.
So let's go to the best story of the day.
I've been waiting for it.
Can you identify it, looking at the stories here?
Rats on a plane.
Exactly.
I know you so well.
Tonight, a number of travelers are left stranded in Oakland after one of the most bizarre airline cancellations we have ever heard of.
KPI X5's Jackie Ward with the story of the stowaway rat.
Alaska Airlines Flight 915 was supposed to take off at 9.37 a.m., but instead of heading to Portland, the plane was towed to a remote stand on the tarmac at Oakland International, where the airline says exterminators have gone to work inside the Boeing 737.
Earlier, as passengers were boarding at Gate 10, the airline says a rat ran from the jetway and onto the plane.
I thought it was a little comical way to start in 2018, even though we really love to be on a plane right now headed home.
Matt Goff had a seat on that flight and took it upon himself to name the rat after the owner of the soon-to-be Las Vegas Raiders.
I grew up in Oakland and Berkeley and grew up a Raiders fan.
I had to endure them leaving once before, so I named the rat Mark Davis, or another rat who wants to leave Oakland.
Any passengers who had already gotten on board deplaned.
The airline says most of the 110 passengers were rebooked onto other flights tonight.
Some are stuck until tomorrow.
The question that remains, does Oakland Airport have a rat problem?
You know, I have to say the Alaska staff were kind and I can't really blame them for the rat.
So, you know, I think everyone kind of felt the same way.
The spokesperson for the Oakland Airport tells us that no, they do not have a rat problem here.
And as far as that plane is concerned that was involved in all of this, Alaska Airlines tells us that that has been taken out of service and it will stay that way until it's been deemed rodent-free by an exterminator.
At the Oakland Airport, Jackie Ward, KPIX 5.
Yeah?
A couple of things about this story.
Why don't they get some passenger...
Who starts rambling about Mark Davis and the Oakland Raiders leaving town.
So he named the rat.
Nobody cares what this guy thinks.
He names the rat Mark Davis.
He names it that.
And then they bring him back on for a second little stint where he talks about, well, they were nice to me and there's not that many rats on these planes.
Service rat.
It's like, what is this reporter doing?
He finds one guy who's talkative and he just lets him go?
Well, they weren't allowed to report on the real story of the airplane that was halfway to Tokyo and had to turn around.
So they got to do an aviation story and enter the rat.
Yeah, the rat.
Something like that.
And I think, by the way, when I hear stories like this and I get this much play, I'm thinking industrial espionage.
P.S.A. maybe.
They bring a rat on board.
How does this rat jump into the plane off from the tarmac?
This bullcrap.
Yeah.
Maybe he just took the jetway.
Took the jetway.
Why not?
Hey, what's that guy?
Hey, you're cutting in line!
I think we should talk about Iran.
Okay.
And before we get into it, I do have a number of clips.
I want to remind everybody of the West Clark 7, so we can hear all the countries again that needed to be rubble-ized.
This was three weeks after 9-11, Wesley Clark, he was then General Wesley Clark, was called in, and we're not sure where he was called in, but in the, I would say, was it the State Department, White House?
Maybe the Pentagon, Pentagon.
Yeah, Noah's Pentagon.
And he was given a list.
Then this is the countries we're growing after.
And here's an evergreen clip on the No Agenda show.
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense Office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
And it's time.
We're there.
It's time for Iran.
Or as the elites like to say it, Iran.
Iran.
And we are behind this.
I'm pretty convinced of that.
There's ample evidence which I will give to you.
But first I want to go to another podcast of sorts, the Ron Paul Liberty Report.
We've played clips from him before, not necessarily from a podcast, Daniel McAdams.
And he's stating the obvious, but it's worth listening to.
It seems pretty obvious that the CIA or the U.S. government are both fingerprints.
Are really on this.
And that doesn't delegitimize the fact that there are probably a few people in Iran who are unhappy about high prices.
Probably a few people in the U.S. unhappy about high prices.
We're supposed to believe that because the price of eggs increased in Iran, that people all of a sudden woke up one morning in a very carefully coordinated way in multiple cities decided to overthrow the government.
Of course, that's what they told us in Syria.
Then it was the bread prices.
Bread prices went up.
Everyone went to the streets and wanted to overthrow the government.
That's the narrative that I try to pass, and I think it's a little bit hard to digest, particularly when, as you point out, Trump, at least Obama tried to be a little circumspect in 2009 when he tried to overthrow Israel.
The Iranian government.
But Trump is just out there, you know.
Hey, people to the streets, this is great, overthrow the government, we're with you, you know.
And it's just so overt, but you have a CIA chief who is virulently anti-Iran.
You have a president who, unfortunately, the one thing he's been consistent on with everything else.
It's his hatred to Iran.
So I think if you put these few pieces together in the puzzle, you see a pretty clear picture of another U.S. regime change.
And they want to look everywhere else but internally.
It's Iran's fault.
It's other people's fault.
It's not the military-industrial complex which is playing us and destroying our economy.
But you know, no matter what happens, the one thing that's interesting is they're following such a familiar pattern.
They all broke out simultaneously.
That's pretty interesting.
Everyone was upset about egg prices at the same time, I guess.
They all woke up one morning and eggs were expensive.
But the other thing is the rhetoric is the same.
The U.S. is calling everyone peaceful protesters.
So no matter what they do, they're viewed as peaceful protesters.
There have been a few people killed, and at least from press reports, they've been breaking into police stations, breaking into military bases, trying to get guns, blowing up police cars.
And those are the sorts of things that will get you killed in the U.S. Actually, a lot less defying police officers will get you killed in the U.S. So this isn't a particularly peaceful protest in that respect.
But the result will be the U.S. has declared them peaceful, so no matter what they do, they'll be peaceful protesters, just like in Ukraine, peaceful protesters.
And I think this is going to be used for a few things.
As a pretext for more U.S. crackdown on Iran, more sanctions on Iran.
It's a golden present for President Trump.
To tear up the nuclear deal, because he'll find some way to tie this into the nuclear deal, to tie that in, and try to pressure the Russian-Iranian relationship.
So no matter what the case, the outcome of this, it certainly is a benefit.
These protests are a benefit to Trump and Trump's anti-Iran policy.
Yeah.
And here's some backup on that.
The CIA established a new organization focused exclusively on gathering and analyzing intelligence about Iran, which is intended to reflect the Trump administration's decision to make that country a higher priority target for American spies.
And this is the Iran Mission Center.
And this was created in June.
Wow.
Yeah.
And this is...
Not widely known.
One of our producers, Michael, is just killing it with some of the research.
And so this is, you know, Pompeo, he's this new CIA head honcho, and he hates Iran, and it's been known for a long time, so they've created that.
But it gets a little nuttier.
Do you know who they are, and this is just from my research, who they are using to create the havoc inside Iran?
No.
The MEK. The Mujahideen.
The guys that we financed in Afghanistan?
Yes, in Afghanistan, yes.
And from, this was in 2012, September 28th.
Those guys love to take our money.
Yes, September 28th, 2012, from Reuters, the U.S. State Department on Friday formally removed the Iranian dissident group Mujahideen al-Khalk from its official list of terrorist organizations.
So they're no longer a terrorist organization.
Well, they never are when they're working for us.
Well, no, of course not.
But that didn't turn out so well the last time.
It won't turn out well this time either.
Now, the talking points are...
You can identify them.
In fact, here I have former...
This is a former Obama ambassador, Dennis Ross.
Here we go.
One thing I would say about this is that, you know...
One of the reasons you have great economic problems in Iran is not simply because there hasn't been investment from the outside.
It's also because about half of the GDP is basically taken up by the Revolutionary Guard and also by the religious charitable trusts.
And that creates an enormous distortion.
Even if you could produce some of the investment from the outside, it's not going to fix their economic problem soon.
So the frustration that exists is a function of a structural problem right now.
And in fact, one of the things the regime needs to do is to begin to think about how will it actually address that.
So what I like about the talking point is they grab the government and the Revolutionary Guard.
So they're all corrupt.
The sanctions went off and all these new jobs were created, but they were only for the insiders, only for the Revolutionary Guard and for Rouhani and for all the guys on the inside circle.
Which is great.
Also known as the Muckety Mucks.
The Muckety Mucks, yes.
And that's a setup for regime change.
And involved in this is the NCRI, the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
Keep your eye on this woman, Miriam Rajavi.
The Iranian people demand the overthrow of the ruling religious dictatorship.
It is the right to topple this repressive regime.
And I emphasize, regime change in Iran is very rich.
So, we need regime change.
I've heard of this woman.
Yeah?
Oh yeah.
You'll be hearing a lot more from her.
For sure.
Yeah, he shows up here and there.
Now, we started with Wesley Clark, so we're going to stick with, let's just stick with the neocons.
The biggest neocon we know is Bill Kristol, and he's been very clear about his stance on Iran in the past, and now he's appearing on television again everywhere.
Yay!
Yeah, let's talk about Iran.
This was on, was this CNN? MSNBC, let me see.
CNN, I believe.
They had the panel, a quad box, and here we go.
People have been tremendously patient with the Rouhani government, going out and re-electing him, despite the fact that he hadn't really produced much economic benefits for them.
But now those expectations and that patience is running out, and the root cause of this is because investments have not come in because there's uncertainty as to whether this nuclear deal will survive or not.
I think the root cause of this, Stephanie, is that the Iranian people don't have freedom and they would like freedom.
I mean, you can get upset about the very minimal sanctions President Trump put on the IRGC. His policies have not fundamentally affected anything.
And if companies don't want to help the IRGC, the ruling regime in Iran, that's fine with me.
Let's be more respectful of the Iranian people's desire for freedom.
You've been arguing to bomb Iran for so long, so I don't know if you're really respecting the Iranian people.
You've been advocating killing Iranians.
I don't think you or the Trump administration have the credibility to now say that you care for the Iranian people.
Hold on.
It's not about me.
It's not about me.
It's about the Iranian people.
Do you stand with the Iranian people?
Do you stand with the Iranian people?
Of course.
And there's your little slogan.
I stand with the Iranian people.
You can just wait for it.
I do.
That's exactly right.
Good.
Fine.
We're in agreement.
That they actually move towards a more democratic situation without killing them.
Trita, Phil Crystal is not advocating to kill anyone.
Let's make that very clear.
No, on the contrary, there's been all of this argument for taking military action against Iran, so instead of actually having this nuclear deal that has been working.
I think you'll also be on the lookout for the following phrase, Iran is the leading sponsor of terrorism.
Well, that's been going on forever.
Yes, the world's leading sponsor of terrorism.
Was that Farheed Zakhan or Zakari?
No, no, no, some other Iranian guy.
Sounds like him.
Yeah, it wasn't him.
There's a, what was this, maybe it's just a blog post, I don't know where this is from, but someone wrote this interesting, oh, the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.
There you go, the VIPs.
Subject, is Iran the world's leading sponsor of terrorism?
And they debunk pretty well that Iran is just really no longer funding Hezbollah, Now they may be, I don't know, but it's a pretty good deconstruction that you take a look at in the show notes.
But now we need to have everybody come out and start talking about, you know, telling the people of Iran, let's go, come on, go, go, go, go, go, you can do it.
We don't have a caller yet for this revolution, but there's Bibi telling everybody to go.
I heard today, Iran's President Wuhaniz claimed that Israel is behind the protests in Iran.
It's not only false, It's laughable.
And unlike Rouhani, I will not insult the Iranian people.
They deserve better.
Brave Iranians are pouring into the streets.
They seek freedom.
They seek justice.
They seek the basic liberties that have been denied to them for decades.
Iran's cruel regime wastes tens of billions of dollars spreading hate.
This money could have built schools and hospitals.
No wonder mothers and fathers are marching in the streets.
The regime is terrified of them, of their own people.
That's why they jail students.
That's why they ban social media.
But I'm sure that fear will not triumph.
Because the Iranian people are smart.
They're sophisticated.
They are proud.
Today, they risk everything for freedom.
Sadly, many European governments watch in silence as heroic young Iranians are beaten in the streets.
That's just not right.
And I, for one, will not stay silent.
This regime tries desperately to sow hate between us, but they won't succeed.
And when this regime finally falls, and one day it will, Iranians and Israelis will be great friends once again.
I wish the Iranian people success in their noble quest for freedom.
Yes.
Go, go, go, go.
I just realized Bibi has a pretty good radio voice.
He has a good voice.
He's got some good pipes there.
So we have Trump tweeting.
We got Bibi doing his little address there.
But, you know, Iran, they've shut down Twitter, they've shut down social media, you can't communicate.
But, and this really takes the cake when it comes to propaganda from the U.S. government, what outfit always reaches these countries?
One that we finance.
Voice of America?
Voice of America.
And guess who works at Voice of America these days?
Who?
Greta Van Susteren.
Oh, that's where she ended up.
She got fired, you know, from...
Yeah, she got fired, but she tried to do MSNBC liberal stuff and couldn't pull it off.
Well, I've always thought she was somehow related to the CIA, so this doesn't surprise me.
Moreover, that she sat down with an interview with the Vice President.
And they just put it right out there.
Well, a couple of issues.
Number one is that the way the president has done it so far is by Twitter and the Iranian authorities.
The government has shut down Twitter, Telegram, Facebook, and Instagram.
So social media into Iran is not reaching.
I realize that this interview will reach into Iran because Voice of America does reach there.
And so the president may not be reaching them.
The second thing is that I suspect that many people in Iran are...
A little bit distressed with the president's immigration in terms of banning people from Iran from coming here in the United States.
So I don't know how receptive the people are to Iran unless he reaches out more to them.
Well, the repression by the regime, by the Ayatollahs in Iran, is not surprising.
They continue...
To be a nation that denies basic human rights to their people and to be shutting down communication.
But are they hearing from our government?
I mean, if it's done by Twitter and not by, I mean, is there another vehicle that the president has other than, I mean, of course you're speaking out here today, but is there another vehicle that the president intends to use?
Senator Lindsey Graham suggested that he address the nation, for instance, on this issue, our nation on it.
I think the President again spoke out on social media this morning directly to the people of Iran.
But if they don't have social media, that's the problem.
I can assure you that whether it's the President, whether it's myself, whether it's our Secretary of State...
Does Pence even listen?
No, he has a message to deliver and that's what he's going to do.
It's like a robot.
Yes.
Well, this is also a podcast.
It's his own station.
The government pays for Voice of America.
It is our own prop.
It is our team.
Yeah, but it makes him sound like a douchebag.
She keeps asking the same question over and over again.
They can't get Twitter.
He just said on Twitter, he just tweeted it out so the Iranians will read it on Twitter.
No, they don't get it.
Hello?
They don't get it.
And then he's going to do...
The guy is just not paying any attention to anything.
Correct.
Because the only thing he's been programmed to do is say, go Iranian people, go, go, go, go.
I spoke out on social media this morning directly to the people of Iran.
And by the way, now you know why Greta gets fired everywhere.
But if they don't have social media, that's the problem.
I can assure you that whether it's the president, whether it's myself, whether it's our Secretary of State or Ambassador Nikki Haley, we're going to continue to stand different from nine years ago.
We're going to continue to send from the very outset of this effort on the streets of Iran an unambiguous message that the American people stand with freedom-loving people in Iran and around the world.
And I think this is a very hopeful moment.
And my hope and really my prayer is that the people of Iran, a youthful population, a well-educated population, understand that the United States of America and the people of this country are their natural ally.
We want to see them achieve a free and democratic future.
We want to see them step away from a regime that continues to menace the world and threaten the world and threaten to develop nuclear weapons.
I'm sure this interview went on like that.
And what is he talking about?
Ever since it was – when was it the 50s that the CIA first got busy in Iran?
I think 56?
Something like that.
Yeah, 56.
Yeah, that's during the heyday of the CIA when they were able to do something they can't do anymore.
A couple of things.
Get your browser, get your Edge browser, and go to natobases.noagendanotes.com for a good laugh.
If you want to see the NATO bases surrounding Iran, natobases.noagendanotes.com.
And then also, and it's good to see this map because then you see again Afghanistan.
So you know, you know, it's borders on Iran and that's where your Mujahideen are hiding in the hills or whatever, whatever they're...
Yeah, except the northern or western Turkmenistan is kind of weak.
We need Turkmenistan.
And what's over there on the...
That map doesn't show what country that is.
Is that...
What's to the east?
Is that Moldovia or something?
Moldova?
No, that's dumb.
Hold on a second.
Map of Iran.
Let me just see.
It's worth taking a look at.
Azerbaijan, of course.
Azerbaijan and Georgia.
Yeah, we don't have any...
Well, we have the Coast Guard in Georgia.
But we have nothing in Azerbaijan.
And that's kind of neutral territory.
That's like where all the aliens on Star Trek come together and deal oil.
But we should have a base there.
And do we have one in Turkmenistan?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's one over...
I think those are oil fields.
Yes.
Well, of course.
You want your base protecting the oil fields and the poppy fields.
You don't want your bases out in the sticks where nothing's happening.
So that is a very good overview of how they are literally surrounded.
But here's the problem.
And this is a problem the No Agenda Consulting Group, the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group, can't actually solve.
Because they're not getting the traction.
And they got everything right.
They got the protest right.
They got guys on the inside to spur it on.
But why is no one changing their icon?
Why are women not...
Why is the pantsuit nation not standing up for the brave women of Iran?
You need to kill some gays.
You need to do something.
Yeah, we could come up with a whole list.
You got to kill some gays.
You got to cut somebody's head off.
You got to do something to get people talking about it.
And they're failing.
They're failing, failing, failing, failing.
Yes, they are.
Well, the CIA is supposed to be taking care of this.
They're not doing a very good job.
Well, who is in charge of the propaganda ops, the psyops?
It would be the Defense Department and the CIA. Well, they're doing a piss-poor job because this is not getting people talking.
And I'll tell you, they're doing it.
I'm going to give you an example of what a piss-poor job the CIA is doing.
You know, we always like to play that Lear Foundation, how they're messing, mucking up with our TV sitcoms and...
Dropping storylines in.
Yeah, play that again.
This is a group run by Norman Lear that goes out of its way to promote the Pantsuit Nation agenda into the media.
So in the course of our work, this is in the two years, 11 to 13, 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired.
We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years.
91 different television shows.
There you go.
And that was, what, 10 years ago?
Yeah, and you know they're still going on.
Now, the thing that's been going on, I have not started documenting this, but I'm going to make it a regular feature because I catch it a lot.
And I'm not sure what the point of it is.
I mean, I know what the point of it is on a meta basis because people love stories where you've got small government guys against the big government bad guys.
Yeah.
But one of the things that crops up a lot is this anti-CIA dialogue in popular shows.
This is anti-CIA dialogue I caught on NCIS New Orleans.
Won't just be your career in trouble.
You're worried about your friends?
Someone should be.
You know, he put his neck out there for us.
And I appreciate it.
But CIA doesn't care about getting justice for those cops, so we're gonna.
No matter the cost.
I get it, son.
I wouldn't ask anyone to be involved if it doesn't feel right.
You should go home.
Yeah, so they're hating on the CIA. Interesting.
Yeah, and then they had some CIA blowhard, a woman, blonde woman, looking a little like Valerie Plain, coming into the scene, and she's stopping their investigations and telling them that we got more important things to do, and she ends up getting stabbed in the back by the guy she's protecting as far as she dies.
That's cool.
It's very funny.
Good.
Keep your eye on that.
Keep your eye out for anti-CIA stuff.
Yes, I am going to be on the CIA lookout.
And I don't know if you saw the tweet from one of our producers, but you nailed it on the bogative New York Times interview, and that's probably why we're not hearing about it much anymore, because I think the media has figured out what happened as well.
This was the Mar-a-Lago interview.
Right, the fake interview.
The setup.
So the setup was done by Chris Ruddy.
He's the CEO of Newsmax, which is, I think, a conservative news outfit.
Red flag.
Yeah, well, he tweeted, At Real Donald Trump respects NYT's Mike Schmidt because he's fair.
Glad to connect them at Trump International.
So he was the guy.
Chris Ruddy of all people.
Yeah.
It was a total setup.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
Once his name cropped up, that would be the end of it.
Yeah.
So you nailed that.
That's what we do on this show.
Yeah, that is.
We try.
We try.
We nail stuff.
Let me see.
There was also...
What else happened?
Well, you're looking for something you can play.
I got a little ISO of Nick Haley.
I think is it usable for anything?
We don't think we need a band-aid and we don't think we need to smile and take a picture.
What was the context of this?
It was just something to do with nothing.
I mean, it was like somebody, it was a North Korea vote and something.
We don't need to take a picture.
It was some Southern phrase.
But the way I heard it was we don't need to, something about a band-aid, and we don't need to smell.
Is that what she says?
We don't think we need a band-aid and we don't think we need to smile and take a picture.
Smile.
Yeah, baby!
I don't know which ISO to use at the end of the show.
I think yeah, baby is better.
I think yeah, baby.
Yeah, baby!
That's very good.
I'm like, yeah, baby.
Now, I tried to get a clip.
I was unsuccessful because I saw Pooper yesterday.
By the way, holy moly crap.
I brought no clips, but what is up with the news networks, in particular CNN, really, and New Year's Eve?
I mean, they were smoking dope, they were putting on gas masks with a bong attached to it.
The female news hosts and Anderson Pooper...
What?
Oh, yeah.
Because, oh, California, it's legal, and they're all smoking a joint, passing it around.
They are?
Yeah!
On the air?
Yes!
You remember last year, Don Lemon was hammered?
Well, everyone's drunk again, but now they were high.
Yeah, but that's not the same as smoking a blunt on the air.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A blunt.
It was not a blunt.
It was a spliff.
I just like the name.
It was a spliff.
Not a blunt, a spliff.
I smoke spliffs.
You don't smoke blunts?
No, no.
That's cultural appropriation, my friend.
It's racist.
I'm not going to smoke blunts.
Uh-uh.
Yeah, so there was that.
But that was the toss from home base, which was...
Anderson Pooper with, who was the other guy?
He's a gay guy.
Now I'm just trying to think.
Well, anyway, it turned into a gay fest.
But the thing was, Anderson, who was kind of a stoic, Andy Cohen, that's who it was, Andy Cohen.
He's the guy that does the interviews with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
That's all I know him from.
And I guess his show is pretty popular.
And so he and Pooper, and Pooper, I don't know if he's in a relationship, but if he is, he's the woman.
Because he turned into a total fembot.
And it was...
Look, I don't give a shit.
And it was...
No, what you're doing so far as the show's humor is concerned.
No, it was very entertaining, but it really took away...
Entertaining, that's the word I'm looking for.
Yes, it's a big word.
But it really takes away from his authority as a serious host.
I've seen him devolve like that on the air every once in a while.
I think it happened during the elections.
It's happened numerous times.
And it does.
I think his authority diminishes greatly.
I don't even know why he does it.
I don't either.
I don't understand.
And with Kathy Griffin, I understood how that worked, that dynamic.
And he could just be, you're outrageous.
You're outrageous.
And just show a little bit of his gay side.
But here it was really like...
I should get some clips.
It was crazy.
Not that it wasn't entertaining, but why?
Yeah, but that's not his job.
His job is not to entertain you by showing off his gay side.
But why did they even let him do it?
I'd like to know.
I would too.
Anyway, so where was I going with all that?
You were bitching.
Yeah, but there was...
About the New Year's and all the smoking in the air.
Okay, and now I know.
Anyway, so on one of the serious pooper shows, and I wish I had this clip, he's like, oh!
Oh!
The president has...
Executive order has canceled his voter fraud commission.
It was bogus to start with.
There's absolutely no evidence.
Blah!
Blah!
Make a time check.
Another one of those?
But it's only half of the story.
In fact, it was very easy to debunk.
To say that is half of the story.
I went to the White House website and I looked at the executive order, which is very curt.
You know, by the authority vested in me as president by the Constitution laws, blah, blah, section one, executive order, blah, blah, blah, is hereby revoked.
And the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity is accordingly terminated.
And that's pretty much it.
Then if you go to the next story on the whitehouse.gov website, there's a statement by the press secretary on the Presidential Advisory Commission.
Despite substantial evidence of voter fraud, many states have refused to provide the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity with basic information relevant to its inquiry.
Rather than engage in an endless legal battle at taxpayer expense, today President Donald J. Trump signed an executive order to dissolve the commission and he has asked the Department of Homeland Security to review its initial findings and determine next courses of action.
Very different from the way it's being presented.
A few have mentioned this, but I figured I'd just pull a clip from...
This is how long ago?
Months ago.
President Trump calling out US states who are refusing to give his administration sensitive voter data for a Trump White House probe into his unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in the 2016 election.
Trump tweeting Saturday, numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished voter fraud panel, What are they trying to hide?
That panel, known as the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, sent a letter to all 50 states requesting voter information, including names, the last four digits of Social Security numbers, addresses, birth dates, political affiliation, felony convictions, and voting histories.
Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe blasting the request.
This is an outrageous violation of citizens' privacy rights.
We will not let Donald Trump and his white-wing extremists use this as some covert plan to get data to make it harder for people to vote.
We won't stand for it.
McAuliffe is joined by election officials in more than 20 red and blue states, including New York, Mississippi, Kentucky, Indiana, and Massachusetts, who say they won't provide the data, citing privacy concerns.
The data request came from Chris Kobach, the commission's vice chair, who also serves as Kansas Secretary of State.
He's known for his hard line stance on tougher laws on immigration and voter identification, but even he may have trouble complying.
Local media quoted Kobach as saying his own state of Kansas may not turn over Social Security numbers because they're not publicly available, even though he did not rule it out in the future.
And there was plenty of reporting on it at the time.
Plenty of it.
Yeah, and that's the reason he had to shut it down because it was just wasting time and money.
But the bias here is instead of saying, okay, the facts are they asked for the data.
44 states said no.
So Trump said, let's not get into an endless legal battle.
We'll hand everything over we have to DHS. Let them take a look at it.
Let them take it from there for next steps as we work on that.
That would indeed fall under their jurisdiction, I guess.
And we don't want to charge the American taxpayer with endless bullcrap and lawsuits.
That's a little different story.
Yeah, then.
There was no evidence!
Oh, Trump shut down a bogus investigation.
No evidence, yeah.
I'm another choke of that blunt.
Pass the spliff.
Don't smoke the blunt, you racist.
It's not for you.
Okay, just a couple quick stories.
Love the story about Huma Abedin forwarding her secret passwords to her Yahoo account.
Great, great story.
And it was before Yahoo got hacked.
Yeah.
That was a good one.
I bet there's a lot of people who have a file that probably says passwords do not delete.
That they mail around to themselves and put on computers so they have them.
Yeah, so that way when you're, you know, floating around and you, oh, I forgot the password was for that, you know.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, you have to write that backwards or in pigeon English or something.
Pigeon.
Pigeon.
What the word to get in, the entry word?
I only have two clips left.
Okay.
I mean, I've got a bunch of clips, but I don't want to play them.
I think we're running out of time.
Yeah, we are.
So the Hartford Middle School had a poor teacher in, I think it was Southern California.
I'm not sure where this place is, but it was in the local news.
It's not Connecticut?
Hartford, Connecticut?
No, no.
It's like in San Jose.
It's the name of the school.
It's not the name of the town.
Yeah.
And they got videos of this guy who apparently busted into a classroom and raped this teacher in her classroom, I guess, when the students were gone.
Oh, my.
And he's a big, fat guy that walks real funny, and he reminds me, when you see this character, because they have all these videos of him, He's like that guy in the first episode of Mindhunter.
Oh, the criminal?
Yeah, the criminal, the big fat guy who kills and dismembers his victims.
Yeah, with that little mustache.
It's the same guy.
And so they go in and they're trying to identify this character who's probably going to be troubled down the road.
But what got me was the kind of commentary that was put on Because it's a private school and so they've taken on all these liberal pantsuit nation kind of ways of expressing themselves.
And I want to play, first of all, the lean-in comment.
Oh, hold on, I wasn't prepared.
Yes, got it.
Officials released a statement saying, quote, we are saddened and upset by this incident and are leaning in to provide support and privacy to our employee and to each other.
Well, that sounds pretty lame.
Leaning in.
How about a check?
They're leaning in.
What does that even mean?
What does this even mean, leaning in?
I said it's based on the book.
Lean in from Sarah Sandberg.
So now people are adopting it as, I think it's code.
We're a liberal school.
Now here's the other one.
This is the Hartford Middle School sad comment.
I'm just deeply, deeply saddened with what transpired, and it just makes me very, very sad.
Now this is a woman they're interviewing.
She looks right out of Portlandia.
She's one of the parents.
And she says she's saddened and saddened and saddened and that's what makes her sad.
By the way, this is a good clip to play instead of the other ones, but you can play them all.
But play this one again.
This is a woman, you've got to imagine some Portlandia type woman.
She looks ridiculous.
She's just, she's got a horrible look on her face and she says something stupid like this.
I'm just deeply, deeply saddened with what transpired and it just makes me very, very sad.
Oh.
Again, Pantsuit Nation.
Yeah, but no one's sad for the Iranian women, pantsuit nation, pantsuit pussyhat nation.
Well, that was for thoroughly depressing.
Yeah, I was just taking it back.
So I'll depress us a little bit more and end it with this story.
Ben, there's an Associated Harper's Magazine article from 1975 in the show notes that goes with this note from Chris Sundberg, one of our producers from Washington.
History of U.S. homelessness.
And when I read this, I went, ah, yes, of course.
Because we've been talking about it.
How did this happen?
Where are they all from?
What's going on?
There used to be these places called state hospitals where persons with mental and substance abuse problems could reside and be cared for in a humane way.
In the 70s, the then social justice warriors decided these were bad places and needed to be closed.
I was there for this.
See, one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
It became a civil rights crusade to free these poor souls from their cruel confinement.
It also became a bogoff, buy one, get one free, for the politicians.
They could be social justice warrior heroes for closing down these bad places, and by closing down these bad places, they also freed up hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on other stuff.
A few astute individuals warned that de-housing, yes, ironically, de-housing these people would not work.
See attached commentary from Harper's Magazine 1975 written by Mark Vonnegut, Kurt Vonnegut's son, who is now a doctor.
Up until the recent housing affordability crisis, i.e.
the hollowing out of the U.S. economy by the war machine and corporate kleptocrats, most homeless people suffered from mental problems and or substance abuse.
Now they are increasingly being joined by the regular slaves, which created the opportunity for politicians to prosecute a new endless war, the war against homelessness.
And I think he's spot on.
No, it's totally spot on.
It's exactly what happened.
Tell us about, because you witnessed this.
Here is the joke.
To me, the great irony of this is what we hear today.
In California, they were up in arms about, which is the home of a lot of this stuff, about these places.
There was Agnew State Hospital in the San Jose area.
There's a mental hospital up in Napa, Sonoma.
There's a bunch of these places.
A lot of them were completely shut down.
A lot of them maintained a high order of...
Institutionalism for people that were really absolutely crazy.
Or a lot of them are locked up because they lock people up for crimes in some of these places.
But it was Ronald Reagan when he was governor.
He heard all this stuff that we had to get rid of these places.
So he, unanimous, just on his own, shut them all down and released everybody.
Wow!
Where did they go?
What do you think they went to?
They went to the streets.
Union Square.
And they went to Union Square.
And what Reagan did was he did exactly what all the social justice Democrats, the pantsuit nation of their era, demanded.
They demanded that he do this.
And he did it.
And he just did it.
And now they blame him for it.
Amazing.
Oh, if it wasn't for him.
I've heard it.
You hear it around here.
If it wasn't for Ronald Reagan shutting down all the mental hospitals, we wouldn't have these problems.
But everyone wanted it at the time.
Oh, they wanted it.
It was demanded.
And they had everybody all worked up about it.
I was probably on the same side.
Oh, yeah, these places are terrible.
And how important was One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest at the time for that movement?
It was just confirmation that it was an evil place.
I mean, Ken Kesey was a very famous local author.
He moved to Oregon eventually, wrote a couple other books.
But he was a famous superstar novelist in the Bay Area, part of the Merry Pranksters and the LSD promoter.
And he's a great writer.
If you read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, it's actually very funny.
It's a very well-written book.
And...
He was part of it.
He was one of the guys demanding it.
The book was a protest book.
There's a pretty good, yes, and the film came out in 1975, which is exactly this time, exactly the year of this article.
Yeah, it was a concerted effort, like we're seeing today with different things that we exploit on this show and we discuss it.
Yes.
If we were doing No Agenda in 1975, we would have nailed this sucker.
Yes, we would have nailed it, and we would have mailed the podcast to you on a cassette.
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