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	You know, I know a lot of guys who knit.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, December 28th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 9 or 9 or 4.
	This is No Agenda.
	Promoting social media balkanization and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone, Star State, in the Cludio.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm back home, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's crack, blood, and buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Ah, were you gone?
	Yeah, I went to the store.
	Oh, Costco?
	I went to Costco.
	Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
	Costco's interesting.
	Now, you have not actually celebrated Christmas yet.
	No, it's coming.
	You guys are very interesting, you Dvorak clan, I'll tell you.
	Yes.
	We're on the cutting edge, is that what you were going to say?
	Untraditional, no.
	Non-traditional.
	Unorthodox.
	Unorthodox, yes, yes, yes.
	And we're not even Jewish, hey.
	Woo-hoo!
	Well, we were in Chirac for the festivities.
	Yeah, I want to hear more.
	And we had a white Christmas.
	That was fantastic.
	Yeah, I bet you did.
	My goodness.
	I had forgotten what cold was like.
	Yeah, it's not good.
	White Christmases are no fun.
	It was zero degrees.
	And then you get...
	And half these places, they won't let you even start a fire, so you can't have a cozy fire and a white Christmas.
	Until yet, it's the law!
	The Airbnb that we had had a fireplace on gas, but the gas wasn't hooked up to it, which was somewhat disappointing, and I've written a review about it.
	Good.
	That pisses me off.
	Yeah, what's the point?
	What's up with windchill?
	Windchill?
	What about...
	What do you mean, what's up with it?
	People use that as like a death knell.
	Yeah, they do.
	Well, windchill doesn't make a difference.
	No kidding.
	I... You know, just walking outside, and then...
	There was actually no wind when I was outside, and my legs just froze.
	It was so unbelievable.
	I'd forgotten all about it.
	I'd lived in Jersey and New York, and...
	Yeah, but you weren't...
	You know, people would have to realize...
	We noticed this going back and forth from Washington, is that your pores literally change from hot weather pores to cold weather pores.
	But it takes weeks.
	It just doesn't do it automatically.
	So when you're coming from hot weather pores, which is what you have, generally speaking, in Austin, and you go up to Chicago, it's going to be freezing cold.
	So your pores have to adjust.
	The pores in your skin have to adjust.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I didn't know this.
	Yeah.
	And so this is why people, when they come down from the northern climes, like Mimi's up there most of the time, she should come down here.
	Yeah.
	And it'll be like 50.
	And she's boiling.
	Oh, it's so hot!
	So warm!
	I'm gonna die!
	I've also noticed, though, that men and women do have different temperature settings for themselves.
	Well, there's that.
	There's a little bit of that, but it's really mostly the pores.
	That's why you were so cold.
	And it would have been that.
	You've been cold for a couple weeks before you got used to it.
	Climatized, as it were.
	Yes.
	So, you know, just walked around a little bit in Chicago for about, I don't know, 23 minutes.
	What neighborhood were you in?
	What part of Chicago?
	We were in Lincoln Park.
	Okay.
	Which is a nice area.
	It is.
	It's one of the better, one of the three or four good areas.
	Yeah, we had an Airbnb on the fourth floor.
	That was a mistake.
	Because it had no elevator.
	Oh, yes.
	That was bad.
	Didn't really consider...
	Especially when it's freezing out and you can't...
	Your legs are...
	Yeah, you know, you used to live in Amsterdam.
	You know, I'm used to canal houses and stuff.
	And then, you know, but after the 10th time, you're like, yeah, okay, not such a great idea.
	But it was a lot of fun.
	It was a lot of fun, and I met all of Tina's family, extended family.
	The extended family?
	The extended family, yes.
	You know, like husbands of sisters and kids of sisters, and I hadn't met her mom.
	So I met her mom.
	You never met her mom?
	No, no.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	What did her mom think of you?
	You're a good man, Adam, is what I heard her say.
	Does she listen to the podcast?
	I don't think so.
	She would never have said that if she listened to the show.
	We know better than that.
	We had a special episode for Niner Niner 3.
	Everybody loved it.
	I think pretty much.
	You got some complaining letters?
	No, not really complaining letters, but people say, well, clearly the guy is psyopsing you.
	You fell for it.
	I like that one.
	You fell for it just interviewing the guy.
	What did you fall for?
	Are you all of a sudden working for him?
	Like, well, you could hear his tricks.
	It was obvious he was trying to push back on you and convince you of other things.
	I don't think so.
	What was he trying to convince you of that you had some other opinion of?
	Well, net neutrality.
	Oh, he's like a net neutrality guy?
	Well, no, but he is more against corporatism and crony capitalism, and his feeling is that with net neutrality rules removed...
	There's no rules.
	They haven't been put in place.
	You know, and it's interesting because I got an email from one of our producers and said, you know, I was going to go all off and spout at my friend that this has never been in place.
	He says he can find no factual evidence anywhere that these rules were not implemented.
	In fact, the documentation says they were implemented.
	I guess they just went.
	2015, I think.
	Was that it?
	No.
	I don't remember when it was.
	But were they or were they not implemented?
	I was pretty sure they were not.
	I'm sure they're not.
	Where were they implemented?
	Does the judgment come down on anything using these rules?
	No.
	Not to my knowledge.
	But they were official.
	Well, they were suggestions.
	Ah.
	Okay.
	I mean, you could say, oh, yeah, well, this is what the FCC, if they have these rules and they're looking at them and they're saying, we should follow these rules, and they do it.
	Well, then you could say they were implemented, but I don't think, I don't know of a A bill that has been passed that just had a date on it.
	Here it is.
	The FCC, March 12, 2015, published in the Federal Register April 13th, which means because they became effective 60 days after publishing in the Federal Register.
	So they were published and therefore they were in effect, but they just seemed to have no effect.
	I didn't notice any difference in anything.
	What changed when they became not in effect?
	Nothing.
	Nothing's changed.
	Because this whole thing is bogus.
	I'm in agreement with you, but when people call me out and say, okay, so if they were implemented...
	It appears as though we're going to have to do a little work, actual work, and have something to throw back at people.
	Oh, God forbid.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Maybe our producers can help with some of his actual work.
	I suppose the you suck.
	I think you're saying you suck works.
	Nah, he didn't say you suck.
	But that was the thing.
	And Pchenik, actually, for those of you who don't know what it is, or what happened on the last episode, he interviewed Steve Pchenik, the psyops master of the United States government.
	Yeah, supposedly.
	Yeah.
	And...
	When he pushed back, he was spouting off the typical, oh, you know, but they're going to charge you extra for access to Facebook.
	I'm like, that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
	But okay, fine.
	Fine.
	Good for me.
	And we had a little fracas.
	So did he actually say they're going to charge you extra for access to Facebook?
	I don't know if it was verbatim that, but yeah, that's basically what he was saying.
	Why would they do that?
	They won't.
	And I pushed back and said, no, I don't think that's true at all.
	And he said, well, I think he has this way of, if he doesn't agree with you, one of his tricks, which I have noticed, is he'll compliment you on how eloquent you are, or how incredibly smart you are, or how smart your family is.
	You're the smartest guy I've ever met.
	Pretty much like that, yeah.
	But it was good.
	People seemed to like it.
	This was the first episode in our Let Them Talk series.
	Let Them Talk number one.
	Probably have another episode next Christmas.
	Or maybe before then.
	Oh, well, if we're lucky.
	You know, the funny thing I've noticed is a lot of people don't want to talk.
	No.
	The only Let Them Talk idea, which is a good idea, only works with people who want to talk And then the real problem is they actually have to be interesting.
	So we have a double barrier.
	This is why we don't do interviews in general.
	Finding a Steve Pachenik is really not that easy.
	That's true.
	That's why it's going to be just a series and not some of that.
	We're not going to do a third show a week.
	This was also, hey, let's do it!
	You can do three shows a week!
	Do one of these!
	Sure.
	No problem.
	As if it's easy.
	It's very difficult.
	I mean, this is one of the reasons I always tell people and backgrounders about the show is that, why don't you have my friend on the show?
	You know, this sort of thing.
	Just because there's a number of problems.
	One...
	Booking people to do a show is very difficult.
	They don't show up.
	They have all kinds of problems.
	I'm surprised you pulled it off.
	In fact, you pulled it off long before the actual show.
	And I again want to thank Tommy Garcia, our producer, who was in Florida about an hour away from where Pachenik lives.
	And he went over there with this setup, with this mic, with this laptop and everything.
	And it sounded good.
	And that was...
	Luckily, we have producers all over the world.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	Beyond lucky.
	It's just fantastic.
	That's what I like about this.
	If we want to do another one, we can get one of our producers and they'll be happy to go over, set it up, make sure it sounds good.
	I wouldn't say 90%, but at least half of our producers are dudes named Ben who can do this.
	I mean, they can set people up with it, even if they've never done it before they can do it.
	So...
	No problemo.
	Well, I have a question.
	Well, first of all, did people appreciate it with donations?
	Did you look at the numbers?
	Were people appreciative of it, or do I just have to wait?
	It was just as appreciative of all the evergreen shows that we throw in during the holidays.
	Okay.
	In other words, no change.
	Now...
	We always have to remember, of course, during the holidays, like this particular day, Christmas Eve, I think we're going to have the same problem with New Year's Eve, which we'll be doing a show on, is that there is no...
	They're not around.
	People are off doing stuff.
	That's why the networks put all reruns on for two weeks.
	Not just the reruns.
	I've noticed something new is they're using fill-ins.
	The B team.
	Fox News is doing this in particular.
	Oh, for news.
	Yeah, they can't do reruns of the news.
	That's a problem.
	Yeah, but even these shows, so they just have the people from Fox Business News will come over and host, and they all kind of suck.
	I know.
	And Mark Stein, who I like as an author and as a funny guy to have on a show, he can't host.
	He's no host.
	He's no fill-in for Tucker.
	There are some people that are natural guests, and they can't host.
	Now, let me ask you an important question.
	Did you find out...
	Well, of course, you haven't really had your Christmas, so maybe I can't ask the question yet.
	We were going to find out what triggers worked best for With the Millennials in your life.
	And I guess you haven't seen them, so you haven't had a chance to...
	Yeah, they've been over for dinner.
	Okay.
	Did you test any triggers?
	Did you find any?
	I found two that really work.
	Okay.
	What are they?
	Because I didn't find any.
	Anything that anyone says...
	If the Millennial says something...
	And we're picking on Millennials, but they're our kids.
	We love them.
	So if they say...
	And by the way, I think they love to be picked on.
	I'm not so sure.
	Yeah.
	We had some triggering events.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, I mean, picking is one thing, triggering is another.
	So, I have two.
	One that always, if you just be a millennial, just say something to me.
	Just make a statement.
	No, no, no, make a statement.
	I think Hillary should have won.
	That's racist.
	What?
	Yeah, if you just say that, it doesn't matter what it is.
	The trigger, it doesn't, it can be unrelated to the statement.
	The trigger sets in immediately.
	It's great to watch.
	You know, I don't think my family would fall for that.
	Oh, okay.
	Because, I'll tell you why, because Eric, Eric DeShill.
	Is racist?
	Ha!
	Eric DeShill is, if anybody in the family is actually black, it's him.
	Oh, okay.
	I was unaware.
	He was raised in East Oakland, and it just turned out all the neighbors were black, and he picked up a lot of body language and things that he's never really rid himself of.
	And if he runs into a black guy, he's the most obnoxious person in the world.
	He's best friends with Eric.
	And does Eric start to go into lingo?
	No, Eric does this on purpose.
	He says, that's racist.
	Just about to damn anything is crazy.
	Okay, okay.
	And he's been doing it for so long at the dinner table.
	He'll say exactly what you said.
	Right out of the blue, somebody will say something.
	He'll say, that's racist.
	And then he'll top it off with some other kind of thing that's...
	It's even funnier.
	So this would not work because we've all been used to hearing Eric pull this stunt.
	Okay.
	Well, then I have another one.
	This is the one that it may be too late, but just saying Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays was a bonanza.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Especially in a store.
	Like, just say to the person who's helping, Merry Christmas!
	And it's going to be like, say happy holidays.
	You've got to say happy holidays.
	Let me mention something here.
	That is very retrograde.
	That argument is over years ago, but okay, if they're still stuck with that in Chicago, that's a little different.
	Let me tell you, and this goes very, very deep.
	And it's obvious why this is happening, because Merry Christmas equals religion equals Republican.
	Your holiday stems from Holy Day.
	You should throw this at them.
	You're more religious than me.
	You're saying Happy Holy Days.
	But let's play this clip.
	Merry Christmas versus Happy Holiday.
	Okie dokie.
	For he and the First Lady were married and posted this late night tweet.
	People are proud to be saying Merry Christmas again.
	I am proud to have led the charge against the assault on our cherished and beautiful phrase, Merry Christmas.
	Some people believe the so-called War on Christmas began when retail stores started swapping out the term Merry Christmas for Happy Holidays.
	And by 2005, the change upset several cable news hosts like Bill O'Reilly.
	But frustration with the term may be less about religion than politics.
	A poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute found 66% of Democrats prefer stores use the term Happy Holidays.
	While 67% of Republicans say stores should only say Merry Christmas.
	On the campaign trail, candidate Trump promised to bring back the phrase.
	Politics aside, Mr.
	Trump's not the first president to say...
	Merry Christmas.
	His predecessor used the phrase every year.
	Merry Christmas.
	Merry Christmas.
	Merry Christmas, everyone.
	Merry Christmas, everybody.
	Merry Christmas.
	Merry Christmas, everybody.
	Past presidents also used the term happy holidays, which comes from Old English for the term holy days.
	And Christmas is the only federal holiday based on religion.
	Serena Marshall, ABC News, Washington.
	Right.
	So there's no reason unless they're apparently Democrats are the ones behind.
	Yes, yes.
	Literally.
	Well, come on.
	Aren't all millennials Democrats?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So I'm telling you, the sequence is Merry Christmas, crazy religious people, crazy religious right.
	There's a war on God.
	There's a war on religion.
	Not Islam, of course, but Christianity and even Judaism.
	I think there's a war on Jews.
	So when you say Merry Christmas, it's religious, you're crazy religious right, you're Republican, you're Donald Trump.
	That's the sequence.
	As this woman says in this report, which is quite concise, I might add, it's the only holiday that is a religious holiday.
	It's literally a religious holiday.
	And so if you're celebrating this holiday, you're going to work that day.
	You know, and I read...
	So it's a religious holiday, so it's not like...
	All you're doing is, if you don't like it, change it.
	And I'm sure they'd love to.
	Get a constitutional amendment!
	Well, that's not an amendment issue.
	No.
	It's a law.
	No kidding.
	But I think the comeback is Happy Holy Days.
	Happy Holy Days.
	Because if a holiday stems from Holy Day...
	That's more religious to me, especially in a generality, than Merry Christmas, which is kind of a conjured up holiday.
	They don't know the dates.
	It's all kind of phony.
	And then the Jews on Facebook, who I'm friends with, Facebag friends, they had their, and these would be liberal friends of mine, and they would say, go ahead, wish me Merry Christmas.
	For me, it's just Monday.
	You can go to work.
	What are you doing on FaceBag?
	Do some work.
	Tell him to talk about it with Hanukkah Harry.
	Who's Hanukkah Harry?
	Oh, we talked about this on the...
	I'm sorry, on the...
	I didn't hear it.
	Oh, yes.
	Horowitz says that the Jews...
	Have a Santa Claus-like character called Hanukkah Harry.
	Because the kids, Jewish kids, they're seeing all this stuff going on.
	They got the tree, you see trees and the Santa Claus and all this stuff, but they can't.
	And so they've dreamed up Hanukkah Harry, and apparently it's been on forever.
	A lot of non-Jews don't know about it.
	And they have some sort of tree called something.
	They've got, in other words, a parallel universe Christmas starring Hanukkah Harry.
	So it's bull crap.
	They've got to take the day off.
	They're not working on Monday.
	That's funny.
	Yeah, I thought so.
	Because I never heard of Hanukkah Harry.
	No.
	And I didn't hear anything about Kwanzaa this year.
	Yes, Kwanzaa for some reason.
	Seems to have just dropped by the wayside.
	Yeah.
	It's sad.
	Was it you or was it one of the kids that mentioned to me about Festivus?
	Donald Trump.
	No way.
	That's apparently going around some face bag circle.
	Oh, jeez.
	That Donald Trump's responsible for this phony Seinfeld episode in some awkward way, which was done in the 90s.
	Anyway.
	No.
	Well, I can say Merry Christmas around here and nobody cares.
	Californians are more lax about this stuff.
	And then again, there's that example of Obama year after year after year saying, Merry Christmas.
	Why don't they complain about that?
	Because he's not a Republican.
	And he's a Muslim.
	We know.
	Well, yeah.
	If a Muslim can say it, anyone can say it.
	But then on a serious note, did you see this video that was going around?
	This guy who had a dashboard camera drove around downtown L.A. on Christmas Day.
	The claim is 20,000 homeless people, many of them in tents, and he just drives around block after block, both sides of the street completely lined with tents.
	Yeah, best unemployment year ever.
	It's unbelievable.
	I could do the same thing in Oakland.
	I can do it here in Austin.
	I took my first trip for maybe two years because I had to go pay the taxes.
	Before the deadline so I could get my full credit for my back property taxes.
	I did hear you talking about it.
	I'm driving down San Pablo Avenue in Oakland.
	All the hamburger places.
	There used to be a quarter pounder.
	Now it's a taqueria.
	It was homeless people.
	All the way into Oakland, where then all of a sudden it's all brightened up.
	Everything's really fine in Oakland, but this is Oakland, too.
	And they're under the overpasses everywhere you go.
	Now they're on both sides, where there's only one side last week.
	And what is being done?
	This is just a state's thing, right?
	States have to take care of this federal government.
	No, city.
	City.
	It's distressing.
	It's really distressing.
	Yeah, especially when everyone says, oh, the unemployment's lowest than it ever has been.
	It's not even close.
	What are the shadow stats numbers?
	Are we still 20%?
	It's actually trending down on the shadow stats, finally.
	Once Trump got in, it started trending down.
	But it's still sitting at 22%.
	Yeah, well, we're lucky.
	And by the way, it looks like it to me, too, when you drive around and see all these guys in tents.
	Hmm.
	I mean, those people are unemployed, but the government doesn't count them.
	Oh, he's in a tent.
	He's not in the job.
	He's not in the workforce.
	He'd like to be.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	While we're talking about the young generation, let's go to our Dodd Report segment.
	Bill Gates admitted that his Common Core experiment was a failure.
	It was a failure.
	I'm glad he admitted it.
	What's the next sneaky trick is he going to try?
	Interesting you ask that.
	It's called Next Generation.
	So they spent $4 billion in implementing Common Core.
	Taxpayer money, not his money.
	No, I think...
	No, there's no way he spent $4 billion.
	Promoting it?
	I'm sorry.
	I doubt it.
	I'm sorry.
	$400 million.
	Itself influenced $4 trillion in U.S. taxpayer funds towards the goal.
	That seems a little much.
	But $400 million sounds right.
	Yeah, that sounds like he can afford that.
	He can afford that, yeah.
	He says, well, you know, there's one thing I've learned.
	It's that no matter how enthusiastic we might be about one approach or the other, the decision to go from pilot to wide-scale use is ultimately and always something that has to be decided by you and the others in the field.
	Yeah, thanks, Bill.
	How about doing a little test marketing?
	You know what that means.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	No, I'm just asking Bill.
	Oh, Bill.
	Yeah, he should know.
	Yeah.
	Although that Vista, I don't know if he does know about...
	They tested that?
	It's one of those things where it's all in-house testing.
	Yeah.
	And with Microsoft during that era where they used that kind of fire me, you know, you have four people, I forgot, it was stack ranking or whatever it's called.
	Yes, stack ranking.
	Stack ranking.
	Those were the days where you never say anything bad because then you get ranked poorly by one of your coworkers and get fired.
	So everything was, "Oh, this is great.
	"Oh, Bill, that's the best thing I've ever seen." Ah, that's tremendous, tremendous, good thinking.
	Yeah, that's kind of a problem. - So Common Core will be fading away and next generation science standards will be coming in.
	And again, the whole, the real issue with this is that it's all done on the computer.
	The learning and the testing done on the computer, which does not necessarily mean the kids are learning anything.
	They're learning how to make the computer give them a smiley face or a little bleep, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop.
	Or a little Pavlovian ding.
	Yeah.
	I think computers should be taken out of education.
	You know?
	At least until you get to high school.
	And then there should be a computer lab where you learn about computers and computers.
	People, they get them, sit them in front of a computer, they don't even know how the computer works.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think you should at least have an understanding of, like, if they have, for example, they used to have auto shop.
	And the idea was that you could work on these cars, but you had to have some understanding of how the car actually works.
	What an internal combustion engine does.
	And the same thing, I believe, with computers.
	I think otherwise you're just like this magical thing with a screen in front of you that's doing magical stuff.
	That's not the way you should be thinking about these things.
	Well, that's only going to get worse.
	The computers will no longer be serviceable.
	You already can't open up your Mac.
	You know, I don't think it's...
	The Mac has always been kind of that way, but I think you could still understand how the Mac works.
	Or look at the thing I'm using for podcasting.
	I use an Intel NUC. And the Intel NUC, you can actually open it up and swap out the solid disk, the solid state hard disk.
	You can pull it out and put a bigger one in because it's always too small.
	And they have a Wi-Fi thing that you can put in there.
	But instead of that, John, instead of understanding that, the kids are being taught to code.
	Which makes even less sense.
	Which brings me to a clip.
	This was on a pre-recorded clip.
	Tucker Carlson had Brian Kaplan on.
	He's a law professor from Harvard.
	And he has, well, you'll hear at the end he has tenure, so he's able to say this kind of stuff.
	And he's against the entire idea of sending all of our kids to higher education.
	There were some things that I caught on the news over the break.
	That we're really go against all of the broadcast standards.
	And certainly to say, oh, you know, we shouldn't be sending all the kids to higher education.
	They should go to vocational school is quite controversial.
	The heart of my story is something called the signaling model of education.
	But in common sense terms, it just says a lot of the reason why education pays isn't that you're learning useful job skills.
	You're showing off, you're jumping through hoops, you're impressing employers.
	But of course, if everybody jumps through the hoops, it can impress.
	You've got to jump through more hoops than everybody else, or else the whole process is a waste of time.
	Exactly.
	The costs are really high.
	I mean, the costs not just to the individual, but to society and to a whole generation of young people.
	How do those match up against the benefits?
	Yeah, well, so again, for the individual, what I say is that if you are a strong student, then college is a good deal for you, especially if you do one of the high-earning majors.
	On the other hand, if you are a weaker student, someone who struggles to get through high school, then college is probably just going to be a waste of money, even for you personally.
	But again, I always try to turn it around to not just thinking about what's good for the individual, but thinking about it from the point of view of society.
	Should we really be encouraging more people to go?
	If people are actually acquiring a lot of useful skills in school, well, then it is an investment in our human capital.
	On the other hand, if the main thing you're doing is jumping through hoops and showing off, it's really a socially wasteful process to a large degree.
	And that's really what I say, is it is extremely wasteful for society.
	A lot of people are picking up addictions and mental illnesses.
	Sure, of course you can do that other places.
	But yeah, I mean, in a way you might say there's the addiction to getting more education, which is fairly rampant.
	So what percentage would you, and this is speculative, but of any society, or ours specifically, ought to be going to college?
	Say about 5%.
	5%.
	So that would make you an elitist and a bad person because you're writing off the other 95%, correct?
	Well, you might say that it's elitist to think that only a good person, you have to be a good person.
	You might think that you'd have to be elitist to think that you aren't a good person if you don't go to college.
	Good point.
	Yeah, so, you know, college is the kind of thing.
	A lot of people just go through and punch the clock and sit through classes and get a degree in something or other.
	I don't see that it really improves them as a human being.
	It's a big burden on society, and also it's just a burden on the individual to feel like if I don't accomplish this, then my whole life is a waste of time.
	What would I say?
	You know, there's many different paths to success.
	I'm a big fan of vocational education, the kind that you see in countries like Germany and Switzerland.
	Just very notable how little of an underclass they have there.
	You're the kind of person who in the U.S. would say, I hate school, I'm sick of being here, maybe I'll go and drop out and be a criminal.
	In Switzerland or Germany, you're getting trained to be an auto mechanic.
	Or to be a plumber.
	So you learn independence, learn skills.
	You get a peer group of skilled craftsmen instead of a peer group of criminals and dropouts.
	I think ultimately the problem is the American people.
	People, as you said, people love the idea of education.
	If you go and look at survey evidence, The share of Americans who favor cutting education is almost minuscule, and that's really the main thing that I'm pushing, is spending less on education, saving money on something that really doesn't deliver the goods, especially from a social point of view, and thinking about better ways of spending it.
	Do you have tenure?
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, I bet your bosses aren't impressed by this argument.
	Yeah, can't talk like that unless you've got tenure.
	That's for sure.
	I like the way you snuck a Tucker Carlson clip into the show.
	Well, you know, in a broader perspective, we are raising a slave class who are in debt going to a school that is really only just a fancy piece of paper.
	Well, there's a couple of things I didn't like about this.
	One was this comment of...
	What is it?
	A high-earning major.
	If he's going to take the argument, which is 5% thing, which I agree with the basis of everything he said, but when you say something like a high-earning major, I don't know what he's talking about, because especially in undergraduate work and college, there's no high-earning major.
	I got my degree in history with some chemistry, which is to get me a job.
	Well, back in the day, you got a job.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if you get a job now.
	Probably not.
	I'd be broke.
	But the sociology, history, literature, English, you know, there's a bunch of Latin.
	I mean, there's a bunch of things you can get.
	There's no high earning majors in there except the engineering.
	Right.
	And then you probably should get a master's degree or something a little higher.
	Right.
	And so that doesn't make any sense to me.
	How about this?
	How about the high-earning major is something you can use to become a teacher or a professor?
	That's about it.
	No.
	No?
	The way I see it, because I was kind of, I went bounced around majors, and so I had to take, I had one of my, I started off at Cal as a freshman, then I went to, I was told to go to a junior college and figure out what I wanted to do.
	And so I went to Foothill.
	And at Foothill, I took all those practical courses.
	I took broadcasting.
	I took advertising.
	They had a course.
	I couldn't transfer some of these courses back to Cal.
	But I did take the other courses, English and all these other things that got my grade point up, and I went back to Cal.
	But I went back to Cal in history, out of the blue, something I never expected to do, because I had a history instructor.
	Kermit Franklin was his name at Foothill, who was extremely entertaining and he made it very exciting.
	And his commentary was always that you don't go to college to get a job.
	You go to college to improve your educational skills, your way of thinking, and just to improve yourself.
	And that was the classic way.
	And organizational skills.
	Well, organizational thinking skills was what I was thinking.
	Oh, critical thinking, yes.
	Critical thinking.
	So I get a degree in history, and now I'm a podcaster, and I've been an essayist for like 25, 30 years.
	That has nothing to do with history.
	I mean, I do bring historic stuff up.
	No, that's not true.
	I believe your history education is extremely valuable to the program.
	Yes, but it's just an ancillary.
	If I didn't have the history...
	You're in something else.
	I think we'd still be podcasters.
	But the point is that this idea of you have to go to...
	This is the problem.
	You don't go to school to get a job.
	You want a job?
	Go get a job!
	Right.
	This is not the popular opinion.
	No, it's a very unpopular opinion, and people always go, well, what good, you know, I'm taking this history, what good is it going to do me?
	Well, you know, here we go, you can be a low-paid podcaster.
	Yeah.
	That's pretty much the future for everybody.
	Everybody's got to be a podcaster.
	They all listen to them, so, yeah.
	Yeah, everybody listens to podcasts.
	The number of people that listen to random podcasts that nobody else listens to, It's astonishing.
	And I like that.
	Oh, listen, I went and had drinks with Illuminati and one of her friends, I think he's one of our knights, and they both rattle off these podcasts.
	Yeah, that no one's heard of.
	I've never heard of any of these podcasts, and I write them down.
	And they were listening to different podcasts themselves that they hadn't heard of.
	That's what I notice.
	It's like, oh, I listened to this.
	Oh, never heard of that.
	I listened to this.
	Oh, never heard of that.
	Yeah.
	There must be a million podcasts.
	Oh, man, we sprouted something beautiful, didn't we?
	I had nothing to do with it.
	Well, this brings me to another podcast, which was recorded as a podcast.
	It aired on BBC Radio 4, I believe.
	Prince Harry and President Obama.
	I don't know if you had a chance to listen to this.
	I have a clip from it.
	Oh, okay.
	I have a clip.
	But I only have one clip.
	I have the same clip.
	I see.
	If you heard that clip, you would get the same clip.
	Mine is longer.
	Well, you can play the long version.
	I just wanted to keep it concise because I thought it was very...
	Insightful and important.
	What Obama said, although...
	I disagree with it.
	I don't disagree with it.
	I do.
	Let's listen to it.
	The social media landscape has changed dramatically since then.
	Issues of trolling, extremism, fake news, and cyberbullying are major social issues.
	Is there more that you could have done as president to get ahead of some of these issues, do you think?
	Well, most of this is happening in the...
	Outside of government, and in the United States in particular, we have a very strong First Amendment.
	I am a, as a former constitutional lawyer, pretty firm about the merits of free speech.
	And the question I think really has to do with how do we harness this technology In a way that allows a multiplicity of voices, allows a diversity of views, but doesn't lead to a balkanization of our society, but rather continues to promote ways of finding common ground.
	I'm not sure government can legislate that, but what I do believe is that all of us in leadership have to find ways in which we can Recreate a common space on the internet.
	My space.
	We'll call it my space.
	In the United States, at least, for example, we had three television stations and everybody watched Walter Cronkite or David Brinkley or whoever the chief anchor was.
	Everybody had a common set of facts.
	And so there might be conservatives and liberals.
	Almost ready.
	But people generally could agree on a baseline of One of the dangers of the internet is that people can have entirely different realities.
	They can be just cocooned in information that reinforces their current biases.
	Alright, go ahead and then I'll give you my take on it.
	Well, my commentary is that what he said was at the end, the rest of it just blather.
	But at the end, he, I think, defined Dimension A and dimension B. Yes, he did.
	Now, having done that, I believe he's noticing the same phenomenon that we notice, only he's noticing it from dimension A, I'm sorry, from dimension B, and he thinks that all the Republicans and the voting for Trump and all the stuff that happened during the election or before the election and the tweeting and all the rest of it, he thinks that part is the nutty part and everybody should be a Democrat.
	That's what I believe he's actually trying to say there.
	When he's talking about people cocooning themselves, he's pointing the finger at the Republicans.
	Yes.
	To me, when he said balkanization, you have to be careful of the balkanization.
	And let me just explain balkanization.
	That is such as the Balkans, which belong to Mother Russia and then were broken apart and then you have all these little states.
	Now...
	This to me was actually quite clarifying.
	He wants a central space with a common set of facts, which he should just call it MySpace, because that would work great.
	He is advocating for centralized systems, which goes against the entire nature of the internet.
	The beauty of, and the reason why Facebook and Twitter and everything is falling apart, and it is falling apart, because it's not the liberal voices that are being silenced by loud conservative voices, as Twitter themselves state.
	Like, oh, people are so loud on Twitter, other people are afraid to tweet.
	Bullcrap.
	The balkanization is the DNA of the internet.
	It is a decentralized system at its core.
	That is exactly what is wrong with the internet today.
	We should not have all of these centralized spaces.
	Go over there and talk about what you want to talk about.
	Go over there.
	Now, should there be a way to connect them so you can cross over and go, like, I'm a member of the I Hate Donald Trump group?
	Just to see what people are saying.
	I'm not going to go post in it.
	I'm not going to say much, probably.
	But that is what the internet is.
	It is balkanized.
	And if he talks about, I don't know if the government can legislate this, meaning maybe we can, that's a huge mistake.
	It will never work.
	We need to promote decentralization.
	It will not work, the central space.
	You can see it failing.
	Well, I didn't get that much out of it, I guess.
	All I noticed that was important in that entire interview, which was very stodgy, was the fact that he noticed that we have the dimension A, dimension B problem.
	The rest of this, I don't even know what he said.
	But John, these are two globalists.
	This is what the globalists want.
	The globalists want everybody's same rules, same laws, equality, justice, same money.
	Everybody wants all of that.
	Yeah, but what do you expect when you have two globalists talking to each other?
	Exactly.
	But it is not going to work.
	Well, I think we're pretty confident that that's the case.
	I think it'll work when they start...
	Censoring everything and shutting down websites.
	You have to take bolder moves.
	You've got to start shutting stuff down.
	You've got to put that FBI sticker on anything that you disagree with.
	The government can do that.
	Luckily, NPR has thought about this problem.
	As you know, NPR, they fight and battle fake news.
	So they came up with a brilliant idea.
	And they said, why don't we do a hackathon, a hackathon, and have all the smart kids come up with ways to solve the fake news problem on the web?
	It was a hackathon.
	Competitors took to the problem of fake news.
	The winning programmers made an extension that you can add to your internet browser, which is called OpenMind, designed to help separate the bogus from the real.
	Now listen to this.
	I've never heard more newspeak in my life than this particular clip.
	It's called Open Mind, this app, this extension.
	It's an extension that you can add to your internet browser, which is called Open Mind, designed to help separate the bogus from the real.
	One of the programmers who made Open Mind says the answer to fake news requires more than code.
	Stefan Udenberg is a PhD candidate at Yale.
	Most approaches try to train a machine to essentially delineate between fake and real news.
	You can't necessarily be sure that your algorithm is going to be smart enough to do so.
	So our approach was to rather train people on how to do this themselves.
	Another member of the team, Michael Lopez-Brau, says that's what OpenMind does.
	It encourages you to seek more information.
	So as you're navigating the web, whether it be a social media site...
	It doesn't do anything, then.
	If you have an OpenMind, install this.
	We'll close it for you.
	You to seek more information.
	So as you're navigating the web, whether it be a social media site or just doing some random Google searches, our app will be tracking your browsing history and basically performing an analysis of what kind of text it is you're reading.
	And if the computer notices you leaning in a particular political direction, this is fantastic!
	If you're leaning in a particular, then what, the computer should shock you?
	I'll give you a jolt.
	You should be sitting on a metal plate.
	Right through the touchpad.
	Oh, shoot.
	I'm leaning in the wrong direction.
	What kind of text it is you're reading.
	And if the computer notices you leaning in a particular political direction, it's going to let you know.
	You can actually go to a dashboard.
	See your own bias.
	Oh, a dashboard.
	See your own bias?
	Oh, I can't wait to install this extension.
	You can actually go to a dashboard, see your own bias, and get suggestions for reputable outlets on another side.
	One, we hope that people will appreciate having a very easy access to news from the other side of the aisle.
	And two, that people will also appreciate having real-time analytics so that they can better monitor the kind of news that they digest.
	Sort of like how when you're on a diet or something, you're trying to monitor your nutrition intake.
	The vision for this is like that, but for news.
	I love this!
	The No Agenda show now with zero calories.
	What kind of nutrition number could you put on information?
	The vision for this is like that, but for news.
	The programmers say they're going to launch Open Mind early next year.
	The prize, by the way, for winning the hackathon is a visit to Congress where they'll get to show off their product to some very polarized news consumers.
	Well, this is a disaster waiting to happen.
	Yes.
	But of course, once it's released and once it goes into the wild...
	It'll be picked apart, ridiculed.
	Those guys are going to be in for a heap of trouble because they're going to get nothing but hate.
	And you can't use this in Europe.
	You can't be tracking people.
	I guess if you install it and you agree to it, maybe you can.
	I don't know.
	And then where is it aggregated?
	It's in some magical dashboard.
	NSA, Utah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this seems like a fabulous tracking program.
	To see who we need to eliminate, because they're leaning in the wrong direction.
	This is the worst.
	I'm going to give you a borderline clip for that, by the way, because I know this is going on.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, you got a good one there.
	Now, by the same token, we have other issues.
	The World Health Organization is coming out with their new International Classification of Diseases report.
	Yeah.
	Which, I think that's the one that classifies homelessness.
	No.
	No, I'm wrong about that.
	But there's all kinds of...
	Dog bite on a bus.
	I say what?
	Dog bite on a bus.
	What about it?
	Is that the one, the medical thing where they have all these little things listed?
	So if you have a dog bite on a bus, it's got a special code you got to put in?
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	I know what you're thinking.
	Well, let me see.
	No.
	No, this is infected.
	No, I have it here.
	This is the ICD-11 beta draft.
	And it has stuff like external causes, musculoskeletal system, circulatory sleep-wake disorders.
	But the one that is on deck and in the draft is gaming.
	Yes, I have a clip of that too.
	Okay, let's play your clip.
	Is that video game addiction?
	I would think so.
	The World Health Organization is looking into officially recognizing video game addiction as a mental health disorder.
	Scientists say excessive gaming can cause depression and aggressive behavior, problems which can be diagnosed and treated.
	The new classification could come in the new year.
	Alright, let me read the description to you.
	Since this is something you don't get from any news anywhere, it's just, oh, gamers are crazy.
	Although every study so far that we've seen to date, this shows no correlation between gaming and violence or anything of the like.
	Gaming disorder, that's the title, the name of it, is characterized by a pattern of persistent or recurrent gaming behavior, in parentheses digital gaming or video gaming, which may be online, i.e.
	over the internet, or offline, manifested by, number one, impaired control over gaming.
	Example, onset, frequency, intensity, duration, termination, context.
	Two, increasing priority given to gaming to the extent that gaming takes precedence over other life interests and daily activities.
	And three, continuation or escalation of gaming despite the occurrence of negative consequences.
	The behavior pattern is of sufficient severity to result in significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational, and other important areas of functioning.
	The pattern of gaming behavior may be continuous or episodic and recurrent.
	The gaming behavior and other features are normally evident over a period of at least 12 months in order for a diagnosis to be assigned, although the required duration may be shortened if all diagnostic requirements are met and symptoms are severe.
	Can you read number two again?
	Number two.
	Increasing priority given to gaming to the extent that gaming takes precedence over other life interests and daily activities.
	You mean like watching football every Sunday or having a season ticket to the basketball team and going to every game like Jack Nicholson does?
	He sits in the front row, all Laker games.
	Anything like that?
	Is that mentioned as a possibility as one of these ailments?
	No.
	Well, they put it in the same.
	These are disorders due to addictive behaviors.
	Here are the categories in the ICD-11 beta draft.
	Gambling disorder.
	Which can be predominantly offline, predominantly online, or unspecified.
	There's gaming disorder.
	And then they go to other specified disorders due to addictive behaviors.
	Which, you know, I guess would be drugs.
	So they put gambling...
	What about a football game?
	No.
	Unless you're gambling on it.
	Well, you know, this would qualify as gaming, but I'm going to say it anyway, because I think this would probably fall into the gaming thing.
	Fantasy football.
	Sure.
	Fantasy sports, because these guys, you know, this is like, of course, this is encouraged.
	It's also encouraged by society to do fantasy football, because it gets you more interested in the games, even though you're not rooting for a team, you're rooting for players.
	Mm-hmm.
	Hey, this is, you know, this is just normal to me.
	I don't, you know, people like to do this stuff.
	I mean, I get wrapped up in stuff all the time.
	How about day traders?
	How about people trading Bitcoin?
	They're obsessed.
	They're up at all hours of the night.
	Well, yeah, they're so obsessed.
	They bitch to you.
	They send me money.
	And they continue to do it despite negative consequences of, I don't know, losing your money.
	Yeah.
	Boy, they really created a loading zone over Christmas, poor schmucks.
	People don't understand the psychology of it.
	Like, oh, it's down to 12,500.
	Buy on the dip!
	Buy on the dip!
	Goes up.
	Oh, yes, at 15!
	Oh, shit, it's down to 13.
	People are going to get so hurt.
	Well, I think especially the people who, and these are the people who should be looked at, the people who are mortgaging their homes.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, you can...
	Yeah.
	It's impossible...
	Well...
	I'm just finding...
	What is...
	My question is, what is the agenda behind throwing just this...
	And sure, people are addicted to gaming.
	Sure, they are.
	Sure, people get into it and...
	I mean, I think virtual reality is going to be horrible for social...
	I have a theory.
	Okay.
	No advertising.
	No advertising.
	Put them back into some situation where there's advertising.
	This is just gaming.
	There's no way of communicating with them the fact that they need to buy a Lexus for Christmas or that they need to buy some type of soap.
	There's nothing.
	There's no...
	And they've tried this, by the way.
	I should mention this.
	In a lot of games, they actually sold advertising space.
	I think they actually did it.
	I think Grand Theft Auto had advertising space in the beginning, didn't it?
	And Third Life or Second Life or whatever that thing is.
	Oh, Second Life.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Third Life.
	I don't know.
	Third Life.
	It was for cats.
	And so...
	You have these billboards that were sold to people.
	I don't know how effective it was.
	Probably not at all.
	But they don't want this.
	We want the people watching TV and looking at native ads in the newspaper and doing these things that are more normal.
	This makes sense to me.
	We want people to participate in our system.
	That's what the World Health Organization wants.
	They don't really give a crap about you being addicted to gaming.
	And of course, gaming addiction exists.
	But why is it in this report as one of only three categories?
	Why is it on the CBS Evening News?
	Mm-hmm.
	Good call.
	Because there's no advertising.
	Maybe...
	Oh, okay.
	Well, we need to keep our eye on that.
	See if they make any moves.
	Well, the advertising guys, you know they've been pulling their hair out trying to get into these scenes where they can advertise.
	I know Electronic Arts definitely has sponsorships.
	I don't know about real advertising.
	But sponsorships in their games, for sure.
	I know that.
	Yeah, well, that's a plus.
	So, okay.
	That makes a lot more sense then.
	It's like, we need you to participate in our program, slaves.
	We need you online looking at ads.
	We need you watching TV looking at ads.
	We need you just looking at ads so we can continue.
	And probably also because these are closed systems.
	No one can get in.
	You can't have Russian trolls can't get in and start trolling you to vote the wrong way.
	Yeah, it can happen.
	Drop of a hat.
	Dangerous.
	And put that app on your computer, the one that tells you if you're going to, if you're thinking, if not thinking right.
	If you're leaning, if you're leaning in the wrong way.
	You're leaning.
	Leaning in the wrong way.
	Yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	No.
	We're doomed.
	No.
	Just a pair of people.
	Yeah, I'm not going to say that.
	We're doomed.
	I'm depressed.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., with a C stands for Can't Be Doomed, Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dams and nights out there.
	Yes, in the morning to the troll room, noagendastream.com, who are trolling me hard and heavy today, saying, I don't get it, I don't know, I'm stupid, I'm a fed shill.
	That's my favorite.
	I'm a Fed shill.
	Because I'm against Bitcoin.
	Fed shill.
	I'm liking that.
	In the morning to Nick the Rat who brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 9 or 3.
	That was our Let Them Talk episode number 1.
	And we did have quite a controversy.
	After episode 992, I'm sure you caught some of that.
	What?
	Regarding the artwork for 992, which was the Santa's husband.
	Now, if there's one person who has bitched and moaned at us throughout the years, someone's taking art and it's not under fair use.
	Or actually, it is not under fair use.
	That would be comic strip blogger.
	And he uploaded art, which we both liked, and we looked at it and said, well, that's probably stolen.
	Then we said, oh no, it's different from the one that is in this book, Santa's Husband.
	And we did an image search, which we always do.
	We're always trying to protect original artwork.
	And not 15 minutes after the show was released, I get a tweet from the guy who drew all the illustration.
	It's his book.
	He says, that's funny.
	Why is someone called Comic Strip Blogger being credited for my work?
	And as I went in, and he was, I hope he didn't listen to the show, but I went, I just said, well, dude, I'm so sorry.
	Can we just put your name on the credits?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	And please promote the book.
	Okay, so he put Santa's husband in there.
	But Comic Strip Blogger really blew it, and I think it's the first time we've had this happen.
	No.
	Well, yeah.
	It was the first time we had it with art.
	We did have it with a clip that somebody dreamed up.
	It was a produced clip from some specific podcast.
	Oh, yeah.
	But not with art.
	No, but we've seen a lot of art that was stolen.
	Yes, and we just haven't used it.
	And by the way, the way we do that, we look at the art and we...
	We say, is this guy, if the guy's a professional artist, and we have a number of real pros that can do slick stuff, it's usually got a style that's always, that's theirs, and so we don't even bother with that.
	And then we have guys who are good artists, and they generally, they sometimes, and they have a certain consistent style, and all this stuff is documented on the website, on that site, No Gen Art Generator.
	And then there's one that's out of place.
	It's out of context.
	It's like...
	And that's what I thought with Comic Strict Blogger's piece.
	I looked at it, which is why we started looking into it, and I said, this is not his style of cartooning.
	Right.
	It's a little different, and it's different enough that we checked it out, and we didn't find that art.
	I know where you got it.
	Yeah, it's apparently on the inside of the book or something.
	It wasn't widely published on the net, which is why the image search didn't turn up nothing.
	Didn't turn up nothing.
	And I'm actually surprised that this is the first time this has happened.
	Right.
	And by the way, he's apologized, so it's okay.
	But let this be a warning.
	We really need to have as much original art as possible.
	That's what our show has always been, as original as we possibly can be.
	Now, the original can also mean a very good and deep redo of something that can be twisted in such a way that...
	In other words, fair use.
	A parody, so you can make it a parody.
	A parody, or fair use, and you've got a piece of art.
	And you can always, by the way, there's plenty of public domain art out there.
	Anything before 1900, the old stuff you can do over.
	Anyway, it happens, and this happened, and it's too bad.
	Yeah, we're not mad, it was just...
	But we still use the piece.
	Well, hell yeah.
	Come on.
	We are the No Agenda show, man.
	Let's thank some people who...
	Now, this is for two shows?
	This is for two shows.
	Most of it is for one show.
	This show.
	So you're saying not a lot came in.
	Everyone loved the Let Them Talk episode, but almost no one donated for it.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I would say that if you compare the monies from the first and then the second, it would be about two-thirds...
	Two-thirds, new, one-third.
	But, you know, it's hard to say.
	Okay.
	The way it breaks out is just difficult.
	I just want to make sure that when we do this...
	I thought it was valuable, and I just want to make sure we get some value back.
	That's all.
	That's the system.
	That's our agreement with our production audience.
	My general thinking is that any time we do any sort of Evergreen, whether it's interviews or Ramsey Cain's material or clips of clips or the songs, we're always going to take a hit.
	Always.
	Always.
	Except for one thing, we're not actually doing any work that day, so we don't have to get up early.
	Right.
	So we're paying for that.
	Got it.
	Let's start with...
	A.J. Van Steenberger?
	You know, I don't know what I can do about this, but if Eric can use a lighter gray, it would be useful.
	Because I guess it's like dark gray with black.
	Oh, it works for me.
	It looks good here.
	Well, it looks like crap here.
	Okay.
	But A.J. Van Steenbergen.
	Burger?
	Burger.
	I'm reading from his note.
	Okay.
	In Carlsbad, California, he gave us $1,500.
	Woo!
	He's the top guy.
	He's donated before.
	He is a retired lieutenant colonel in the Marines.
	Ah, yes.
	And he uses Marine letterhead, which is really dynamite.
	Nice.
	It's got the embossed thing at the top.
	It says Semper Fidelis on it.
	Gentlemen, please accept this...
	I'm going to be Marine-like.
	Please accept this attached donation from a humble knight.
	And by the way, he is...
	He's got to be up his game today.
	No, he's going right to Baron.
	He explains it.
	This contribution should take me to baronhood.
	I elected to pursue this course of action to avoid carrying the title of Baronette, both because the title entitles me to no territory and because it is not what I think of as a manly title.
	Agreed.
	And by the way, we know this.
	Yes.
	And it's not Baronette.
	He's got it spelled B-A-R-O-N-E-T-T-E like a majorette.
	No, it's B-A-R-O-N-E-T. This is the correct spelling, so it's not that feminine.
	And, you know, he's not on our list, so I've added him to a title change, because that didn't happen in the...
	Yes, you should do that.
	Okay.
	Does he have a name for his barony or a protector?
	I'm reading.
	All right.
	Please change my knighthood name to Sir Joseph and dub me the Baron of Southern California if that territory is available.
	So this brings up the question.
	We do have Baron Mark Tanner.
	I can't remember what his territory is down there.
	And there's a couple of other Barons, I believe, in Southern California.
	But I don't know if anyone's just taking Southern California.
	I think they're taking areas.
	So there will be a dispute.
	So this will be disputed.
	And we should make that clear.
	Okay, so we will give him the title change, and we will work it out when the dispute arises.
	Yes, but I can guarantee that this will be disputed.
	We're going to have to work something out.
	So it's kind of shoot first, ask questions later?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Got it.
	Just like the Marines.
	The no agenda way.
	Just kidding, just kidding, Marines.
	I could have said the police.
	Goodness knows these people need benevolent leadership if they are to survive the coming apocalypse brought on by the hordes of immigrants streaming across the southern border to the first sanctuary state.
	Sadly, these subjects will not know how much help they need until they have hit rock bottom.
	Hmm.
	In keeping with Adam's desire to hear about people whose lives have been changed by your program, is that your desire?
	I didn't know that.
	That is, well, we have discussed that this is what...
	We discussed this as well as due.
	It's the biggest reward for me doing the show.
	Ah.
	Please know that I have been homebound for almost five years by severe nerve damage to my feet, likely caused by almost 35 years of active duty, and a bit too much running and hiking.
	CBD. CBD. CBD. CBD. CBD. And now it's legal.
	Yeah, CBD actually should help you in this regard.
	And I mentioned this.
	I hate to tell you this, but I'm going to do it.
	I've talked to a lot of vendors of cannabis products in...
	Oh, by the way, one of the bills passed in one of the states, the spell checker, when it was about legalizing cannabis, changed it to legalizing cannibalism.
	Professor Ted would be so proud.
	Almost got passed.
	Anyway, the vendors will tell you that you really need a 50-50 dose because CBD does need some THC to work For full benefits.
	Okay, so 50% CBD, 50% THC. Although these guys all look like stoners to me, but this is what most of the vendors will tell you in states where it's been legalized for a while and they've got enough experience with CBD to make these claims.
	Just on topic, but not for the donation, I got a follow-up note from Bad Chad from Colorado, our EMT buddy.
	Remember his blue-collar worker dad?
	Totally against weed, hates the whole idea.
	In the car, the CBD cream was working.
	Yeah.
	So he said...
	The cream works great.
	Just use the cream.
	The cream on the feet might work.
	He said, I sent my old man a care package from Lavender Blossoms.
	This is what I received.
	This was the CBD-only version.
	Unfortunately, this totally backfired.
	He's been out to Colorado about three times in six years to visit us, mostly to see our son.
	And after trying the CBD-THC salve...
	We picked up at the dispensary here.
	He was already planning another trip back.
	The reefer madness was upon him.
	His own flesh and blood hadn't been enough to ditch the hellish Wisconsin winter and break out to 300 days of annual sunshine here with us.
	But after the first taste of the sweet, sweet, kind bud, he's ready to drive 16 hours to the most miserable section of highway on planet Earth.
	Until now!
	That damn lavender blossom goo I sent him apparently works just as well or better Then whatever he got here.
	And now he's staying put in the frozen wastelands.
	Thanks for ruining Christmas, Lavender Blossoms!
	It works.
	Yeah, it does work.
	It's fantastic.
	My wife has to use it for...
	She's got arthritis and her hand gets all wrecked.
	And she uses this stuff and it just feels fine.
	That's why...
	I'll say it again, I'll say it again until people finally realize that I'm going to say it too often.
	That's why when you go to these pot shops in Washington State or anywhere that they have them, it's filled with old ladies.
	It's not filled with a bunch of stoners.
	They buy a couple, they buy the buds, you know, a little box, a little vial of bud, and they take one hit and they're done, and that can last months.
	But no, these old ladies buy this, mostly these solves that you rub on yourself.
	Anyway, onward.
	Yes.
	In keeping with Adam's desire to hear about people whose lives have been changed by your program, please know that I've been homebound for five years from severe nerve damage to my feet, likely caused by 35 years of active walking and running too much.
	I found your show about a year ago this month, and in all candor, it has helped me to maintain my sanity through some difficult days.
	Not whining, just letting you know how valuable your show is for me.
	I and my sweetheart Gracie, Look forward to another decade of excellence in podcasting.
	Technically, she's a douchebag, but we really don't want to call her out since, as you can see, she writes the checks.
	We love Gracie.
	NJNK. Thank you very much.
	Joe Van Steen.
	And I look forward to your title change.
	Yes, barren today, and we'll deal with the fallout.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and I know a couple of barons are listening as we speak.
	Onward to Simon Bruce Cassidy in Oslo, Norway.
	$1,000.
	Merry Christmas from Gitmo Nation Polar Bear.
	Please name me Sir Snaldus of the dude's name Ben.
	Also for the round table, would it be possible to serve brown cheese and aquavit?
	And Smalahove.
	Check the book of knowledge on that one.
	What is that?
	And Hammers, Gemmersbrent.
	I don't know.
	It's probably Hemmer's Brent.
	If I can't pronounce it, how the hell am I going to serve it?
	Smalahove.
	That looks easy to pronounce.
	Hold on.
	Let me get this one first.
	Brown cheese, Aquavit, and Smalahove.
	But what is Smalahove?
	And Hemmer's Brent.
	Hold on.
	Let's see.
	Can we figure out what it is?
	Ding it, baby.
	Go ahead, baby.
	Ding it, baby.
	Yeah, go ahead, baby.
	Ding it, baby.
	Yeah, do it, baby.
	Bing it, baby.
	Smala hove.
	Western Norwegian traditional dish made from a sheep's head.
	Originally eaten before Christmas.
	The name of the dish comes from the combination of Norwegian words hove and smala.
	All right.
	Small heads.
	And the other one?
	I forgot what it was.
	Okay, I'll have to pronounce it or spell it.
	H-J-E-M-M-E. H-J-E-M-M-E. Brent.
	B-R-E-N-T. All one word.
	Okay.
	Kiema Brent.
	Oh, that's the Norwegian version.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, it's Norwegian Moonshine.
	Oh.
	Oh, that's definitely got to be on the list.
	That's on the list.
	Hell yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm putting it on the list as we speak.
	Kiema Brent.
	Got it.
	And he says a little karma.
	Thanks for the entertainment.
	Alright, just a little karma?
	Or a big karma?
	A little karma.
	Karma.
	Okay, just the karma.
	You've got karma.
	Onward to Kevin Thomas in Smyrna, Georgia.
	550 bucks.
	He sent a note in, which I will retrieve if I can close this window.
	Kevin Thomas...
	Hail Godfather and Tech Grouch, which I'm not, by the way.
	That's some other guy.
	Enclosed is account signaling that I have attained knighthood.
	There's another knight we don't have listed.
	With a contribution total of $10.33.
	Paperwork enclosed.
	Today's was $500.
	Your podcast has kept me sane...
	Again, these past...
	You know, the funny thing is the first time that came up in the conversation was a number of years ago when the anonymous lesbian...
	Yes.
	Where is she?
	Did she go overboard?
	You know, every time I mention her on the show, she comes in with a contrite note saying that she still listens, but she can't...
	You know, she's a poor...
	She's a magician.
	She's a musician.
	If she was a magician, she'd be making more money.
	But she is an artiste, and so she only comes up with cash.
	But she always used to put sanity on a little note on her checks, which I thought was interesting.
	Your podcast has kept me sane, says Kevin.
	These past several years, as many around me are frightened by all the M5M lies!
	My emphasis.
	As Brian Williams so aptly put it, we're here to scare people to death.
	That's right.
	Remember that clip?
	We still have it somewhere.
	We're here to scare people to death.
	Thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
	May I be henceforth known as Sir Kevlar, Knight of the Button...
	Oh, we already put this on there.
	I remember this before the show.
	Knight of the Button Pressers.
	He's a video editor.
	I press a lot of buttons.
	Lastly, could I have some Obama Predator Drones?
	Thanks, Obama.
	And OMG, amazing.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Okay.
	Predator drones.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	I haven't used this one in a long time.
	I think this is it.
	Thanks, Obama.
	And OMG, amazing, which I think is two clips.
	Yeah.
	This can't be the right Predator drone.
	Well, how many Predator drones do you have?
	Yeah, we have so many Predator.
	Here, Predator.
	We have so many.
	Here we go.
	I got it.
	Predator drone.
	Yeah.
	And then OMG Amazing.
	And thanks, Obama.
	Well, okay.
	I got you.
	I have two words for you.
	Predator drones.
	You will never see it coming.
	You think I'm joking?
	Thanks, Obama.
	Oh my god, that is amazing!
	You've got karma.
	It's funny, I didn't realize the amazing thing was that the OMG on it.
	I'm looking for the Brian Williams scare stuff.
	I can't...
	Can't seem to find it.
	Oh, yes.
	Here we go.
	We do have it.
	Malcolm, our job tonight actually is to scare people to death on this subject so the talk isn't as free as it is.
	Thanks.
	I needed to hear that one again.
	Thanks, Brian.
	Thanks, Brian.
	Give him a karma for wrapping it up.
	You've got karma now.
	A double karma by request.
	Sir Francis of SRQ, Viscount of Southwest Florida, 333.33.
	And he is like, we need more Viscounts.
	ITM, gents, something woke me up last night when I looked at the clock, and it was no shit, 333 a.m.
	It was a clear signal to donate today, and I'm glad to do so.
	Happy New Year and service goat karma to all.
	One small item for John.
	We all love to hear you mispronounce the many small towns and cities where donations originate from.
	But you need desperate help with one in particular here in Florida.
	Oviedo.
	Try it this way.
	Try it this way.
	Oviedo.
	Oviedo.
	So it's Oviedo.
	It's not Oviedo.
	Oviedo.
	Vito.
	Looking forward to show 1,000.
	Sir Francis of SRQ, Viscount of Southwest Florida.
	So we'll get a circle stick to him.
	You've got...
	I gotta tell you, traveling, I saw so many bullcrap emotional support dogs, and it actually triggers me.
	There's a person sitting in the invalid seat, I'm sorry, in the physically challenged seat, with an emotional support dog on their lap.
	So now you get the special seating as well?
	I mean, I don't know why.
	I do know why.
	It irks me, man.
	It triggers the heck out of me to see these self-righteous douchebags walking around with their...
	And they have the little jacket on, emotional support animal.
	Like, seriously.
	Adam at Curry.com.
	Yes.
	It's a big problem, and it's very rude towards people with service dogs.
	Adam hates dogs.
	Yes.
	I don't hate dogs.
	You do.
	You hate dogs.
	You've never had a dog in your life.
	Please.
	I had two of them.
	I thought you meant wives.
	Dogs, yes.
	I've had many dogs.
	You know, I knew you were going to try that joke.
	Very hard to execute.
	Because I was thinking about how to structure what you tried to do.
	And I couldn't come up with anything.
	I tried.
	Vladislav Dubov in Moscow, or Moscow, $333.
	Yeah.
	A troll!
	I'm sorry, $300, $300.
	The problem is Vladislav does not send a note in or anything, so we thank him and we'll give it as an NJNK. Yes, thank you very much.
	Yes, Moscow.
	251.33.
	See email.
	Okay.
	I have that isolated.
	Great.
	I did a great job, too, because it says, please keep my name anonymous at the top of the email.
	Oh, good work.
	Thank you for this outstanding product.
	I apologize, as this is my only second donation.
	You've been in my sanity.
	By the way, there is a note place you can keep anonymous, or you can do five...
	Copies are $49.99.
	You've been my sanity on my long commute, which I think is what we do.
	I have changed my view just about everything for the better.
	I'm a dad of teenage twins who would like to solicit some information advice.
	I'm unhappy with most of their public schooling, but I cannot pull them out to homeschool.
	Yes.
	Well, it's too bad.
	But, you know, it's not impossible to de-brainwash them.
	It takes effort.
	Did I have a clip here?
	I'm not going to play it now, but I'm wondering.
	I have another combo clip of this Iserbite woman.
	Oh, Iserby.
	Iserby.
	Yes, I see it.
	We'll play that right after the segment.
	Yeah, you want to listen to this.
	Okay, good.
	It was not going to make you any happier about not homeschooling.
	John mentioned that civics is not taught in schools anymore.
	Can you recommend a text I could re-teach them with?
	He wants to do some ancillary tutoring.
	I purchased Tragedy and Hope for when they get deeper into the world history.
	It's some light reading for the kids.
	Was it 8,000 pages?
	Something like that.
	It's like, or at least, minimum.
	But I haven't even made a dent in that massive book.
	You want the unabridged version, by the way.
	We've discussed this.
	That's right.
	It's actually a controversy.
	Yeah.
	Are you?
	Yeah, it's the one I have.
	Are there other books or subjects you can point me towards?
	I want to make sure I raise critical thinkers who have an actual understanding of how our country and the world works.
	Yes, I think Mel Brooks' History of the World is a fabulous movie to show to the kids.
	So I was watching the producers again.
	Wow!
	Great movie.
	What an unbelievable...
	The original with Zero Mostel was never topped.
	I have looked through and read some of the books in the NA Books Club site, but I haven't seen anything I'm asking I like.
	Yes, I do have my kids listen to you guys when I get a chance.
	They haven't fully grasped everything, but they do enjoy the show.
	Well, that's a plus.
	Thank you again for all you do.
	Jingles.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	Back to real news.
	Service goat karma.
	Okay.
	Nazis.
	Service goat.
	What was the other one?
	Service goat.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	Back to the real news.
	And then the karma.
	Goat karma.
	Okay.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	CNN say that he's KKK.
	And he shouts a sick hail with it.
	Wow.
	And let's end by talking about the biggest baby news.
	This is my favorite baby of all.
	No, that's not right.
	And now, back to real news.
	You've got...
	Harmless.
	You know, let me just explain why that happens.
	Now that everything is in the database...
	It kind of sucks, actually.
	The database is picking up the ID3 tags and not just the title, because I just used to look at the file name, and now it's picking up tags.
	So when people put tags in a clip they send us, Sometimes it's confusing.
	Sometimes it says something completely incorrect.
	So I've been methodically changing all of these tags as we go along.
	Can't you write a script and take all the tags out?
	No, because you have to...
	Good idea.
	Does anyone have that for me?
	I'm sure we have enough dudes named Ben that can tell you what database you're using.
	They can find a way of...
	Great idea.
	A script.
	Why didn't I think of that?
	A script!
	A script!
	A batch file.
	Dot B-A-T. Just running.
	Dot B-A-T, baby.
	Just running, baby.
	Kalen Nistor, Northville, Michigan.
	23456.
	Happy Holidays, comrades.
	Please call out some major douches.
	Mark Choma?
	Mark...
	What is this?
	Soul.
	Soul.
	Soul?
	Donate, you Polacks!
	Says Sir Cal.
	Very nice.
	And being Polish, I can say that.
	David Boda in Monroe, North Carolina, 22682.
	Please accept this humble lucky pair of boobs, 8008 plus 3333 times 2, for my first executive producership of the greatest podcast in the multiverse.
	It's actually a universe, but if you're multiverse...
	Eh, we'll take it.
	And I get it.
	A lot of people say that for some reason.
	And I get it.
	We came, we saw he died, don't wrath, two to the head, and a job's karma.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Yeah, two to the head.
	Where the hell did that thing go?
	Yeah, that really sucks.
	Didn't we lose this one before?
	The two to the head?
	Two to the head?
	Yeah, I think so.
	No.
	You can't find it.
	And then you found it.
	That's the same as not being able to...
	That's the same as losing it.
	It's not losing it.
	Losing it means I will never get to hear it again.
	Two to the head.
	Oh, come on, people.
	Try the number two.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Yeah.
	No, it wasn't the number two.
	So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed.
	Yes, we came, we saw, he died.
	Did it have anything to do with your visit?
	Why are you all up here?
	I'm sure it did.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	And then the karma.
	There we go.
	You've got...
	It was Jobs Karma.
	You gotta play Jobs Karma.
	Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, and Jobs.
	Let's vote for Jobs!
	You've got Karma.
	I'll get that.
	I think you can put it at the end.
	Anonymous22025.
	Hey, gents, it's been a crappy holiday season.
	My sister adopted her first rescue pup, which is now two years old.
	Last Christmas, it started having full-on grand mal seizures.
	I had a dog with epilepsy.
	I was one at the time.
	I don't know what triggers the problem.
	You never figure it out.
	It was one at the time.
	Vets have been trying to control them over the last year to varying level of success.
	My dog only had a fit about once every three or four months.
	And did the dog fall down?
	Yeah, they fall down and then they wiggle.
	Aw, sad.
	It's kind of pathetic.
	They drool.
	You know what the dog needs?
	CBD? CBD? CBD? They'll fix it.
	Yeah, maybe.
	The dog's dead.
	Yeah, it'll fix that too!
	After about six good months, this week was a very bad week.
	Doctors and neurologists are running out of options.
	Animals are my sister's passion.
	I would like to spread some holiday cheer and request a double shot of karma for her and her dog.
	If you don't mind keeping up the great work, love the humor and analysis you guys bring.
	I think they should try CBD on the dog.
	This guy's anonymous.
	I don't know where he's from.
	Probably in some state words, you know, illegal.
	Yeah.
	Well, give it a shot and let us know.
	You've got karma.
	I mean, CBD is specific.
	Double shot you wanted.
	CBD is specific for these types of things.
	For seizures, yeah.
	A lot of kids' lives have been saved.
	Yes.
	Let me read this one.
	I know this guy.
	Roderick Velo is very famous in Holland.
	He is a television host, a news...
	He's a journo.
	A journal.
	A financial news journal.
	Okay.
	And I've known him for over 30 years.
	Dear Adam and John.
	He's from Amsterdam.
	Enjoying the No Agenda show twice a week in my car or at home.
	High time to donate again.
	I'm a journal myself.
	There he goes.
	With one foot in the M5M and the other in the alternative media.
	Big thing in Holland today is government action to fight, quote, fake news by appointments with FB, Facebook, and Twitter.
	Government suggests a permit system for those companies to stimulate fair reporting.
	Here you go, licensing!
	Heartbreaking to see how some colleagues approve of these governmental actions.
	They think the government is doing a noble job by fighting fake news from Moscow.
	That leaves me speechless.
	Really appreciate all the work you do.
	You guys do.
	It's a lot of work.
	Great radio as well.
	Love the old universal sound, but Adam gets the quality back, I'm convinced.
	Hmm.
	What does that mean?
	Oh, he likes...
	Okay, so it's the new Windows sound.
	He likes the new window sound.
	He loved the old sound, but Adam gets the quality back, I'm convinced.
	So maybe it sucks.
	I don't know.
	Maybe he doesn't like...
	It's like vague.
	Yeah, it is.
	For a journo, he's made it very unclear.
	Kind regards, Roderick Felo, Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
	I worked with him at Radio Decibel, the pirate radio station.
	Oh, really?
	It goes that far back?
	That far back, yes.
	I'm going to give him a service goat karma.
	Thanks, Roderick.
	You've got...
	Nice to hear from...
	It's fun.
	Yeah.
	And he is a respected news journal.
	Helen Trejo, 200 bucks, Parts Unknown USA. Let me see.
	This is a holiday and birthday donation for David Arellin.
	What do you think?
	Arellinus.
	Arellinus?
	Arellinus?
	I would say David Arellinus.
	Or Arellanus.
	Arellanus.
	Arellanus.
	I'm going to go with Arellanus.
	Arellanus.
	His birthday is on December 26th.
	Do we have him on the birthday list?
	He sure is, yep.
	I am so happy to spend the holidays together with him and celebrate 6.5 years together.
	Excellent research and analysis on the education system pushing a global perspective.
	And we do have a clip coming.
	Yes, we do.
	The second person that needs this.
	I noticed during my last five years at an Ivy League school for...
	And an Ivy League for grad school.
	I'm not sure how that's put together.
	Looking forward to more No Agenda in 2018.
	Helen, give her a karma.
	Yes, I'd love to.
	Thank you very much, Helen.
	You've got karma.
	That was a very good list of people that helped us produce with executive producing and associate executive producing show.
	994.
	We got six to go!
	T-minus six of the big 1K show.
	1,000 episodes.
	Protecting.
	No, guarding your reality.
	The best podcast.
	Guarding reality.
	Guarding your reality.
	No, guarding reality.
	We're not guarding their reality.
	Just reality?
	Hmm.
	Because their reality could vary in some small way.
	Regarding actual reality.
	Yes, that's what we're doing.
	And no license required.
	Yet.
	Can you believe that?
	The Netherlands and that all the journals are in on it?
	Face it, face it.
	So it's going to be a certificate.
	You know what's next?
	I just realized how it's going to work.
	The HTTPS Anywhere certificates...
	They are going to be attached to this.
	So if you are not sanctioned, if you're not certified, I love the certified certification, the cert for your server.
	Then you will not receive the proper certification.
	The browser, just like it does now when you're not HTTPS Everywhere compliant, the browser will then alert you that this certificate is not a fake news unfriendly certificate.
	How about that?
	Well, yes, and I think that'll account for about 90% of it, and then there'll be black site browsers that are specific to everything else.
	But the people who they'll be convinced, the public will be convinced that these are unsafe.
	Yep.
	And only a few dudes named Ben and maybe most of our listeners will use these browsers to go in other places.
	But it'll be 10 percent max because everyone's going to be afraid.
	Oh, God, I don't know if bad things can happen.
	Even downloading the illegal browser.
	Yeah, that could be a problem.
	You're going to have to go through proxies or something.
	You're going to go to Mexico through a proxy to download it.
	Who knows?
	And I say this because this morning our cert expired for noagendasocial.com.
	And these days, certainly I only checked it on the Chrome browser when you...
	It no longer does it say this is dangerous.
	You can hit advance.
	You know, like, oh, let me hit advance and just say, I trust it.
	You can't do that anymore on Chrome.
	You can no longer say, I trust it anyway, let me go.
	It just says, nope, can't do it.
	What?
	Yep.
	That's deplorable.
	Where's the free and open internet?
	This is net neutrality at its finest, John.
	You will conform.
	Yeah, how's that net neutrality?
	Oh, man.
	Anyway.
	Well, you already pointed this out, the ludicrous aspect of Google and somebody else going back and forth, not running Amazon, not running each other's tries.
	So, according to the Troll Room, all browsers now do this, which means Safari, Firefox, Edge.
	Jeez.
	What about the other couple?
	There's a couple of other.
	What about the Tor browser?
	Yeah, but that's only for Tor.
	No, there's other things you can do with it.
	I've long said we need a true...
	I mean, that was what Firefox was supposed to be, is just have a true browser for the people, and they went and they took money from mainly Google, as far as I know.
	They're their main sponsor.
	They were for a while, and they did all the toolbar stuff.
	Which was nefarious.
	I don't see it happening.
	There's no reward.
	We have lots of open source...
	And of course, you don't have to email me.
	I'm sure there's tons of open source browsers that are great.
	But they will get no adoption.
	That's the way it works.
	That's the way it's designed to work.
	Now, this program is designed to work in the way that we bring you value.
	You evaluate it.
	You listen to the show.
	That was worth something to me.
	Two hours, three hours, however much time we entertained you, however we got you through your morning commute, please send us some value in return.
	It works with all kinds of contributions to the production of the show, but obviously we need money to continue, and we would appreciate you thinking about us for our show coming up on Sunday.
	And remember, your special...
	Wrong one.
	How the hell did that happen?
	Oh, shit.
	I'm in a mess today.
	Damn it.
	Come on.
	Why isn't it playing?
	What the hell?
	Oh, you're looking for the, uh, yeah.
	This is going to have to be fixed.
	This is one of these days.
	Hold on.
	Here we go.
	There you go.
	What I was going to say is remember to trigger millennials with a formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, Slayman!
	Shut up, slave!
	There we go.
	You know when you're talking to no agenda listeners, long time, short time, whatever, they actually use the reference, oh, my husband hit me in the mouth.
	Yes.
	Oh, I guess my husband hit me in the mouth six months ago.
	That's when I started listening.
	Or I hit my husband in the mouth.
	Yes.
	It cracks me up.
	It's on our night rings.
	Isn't it hit him in the mouth?
	In Latin.
	So let's play the Iserby.
	Iserby.
	Whatever.
	Bloom and Fixed Belief.
	This is one of the clips from one of her...
	People can look her up on YouTube.
	She wrote the book The Deliberate Dumbing Down of American Education.
	Right, which has been repressed.
	And you can read her book.
	You can listen to her talk.
	She's kind of entertaining.
	She's a little...
	A little serious.
	But this is a good little clip.
	Constant training.
	Resensitivity training.
	Break their values.
	Right, no right, no wrong.
	You've got to have all religions represented.
	So, you know, tolerant of everything.
	Because that's the new world disorder.
	Professor Benjamin Bloom is probably the most important behavioral psychologist ever to live.
	I mean, maybe not quite as much as Pavlov and Skinner, but he really implemented the system in education in the United States.
	And he was the author of The Taxonomy of Educational Objectives.
	And I know that doesn't mean much to us.
	It means a lot to teachers.
	They know.
	All teachers have to go through that.
	Bloom's Taxonomy.
	And just to give you an idea of how blatant they are, Benjamin Bloom said the purpose of education, and I often say this to parents, really, listen to this.
	You think the purpose of education is reading, writing, and arithmetic?
	The purpose of education is to change the thoughts, actions, and feelings of students.
	And then he goes on and he says he defines good teaching, and this is even worse from the parental standpoint, as challenging the students' fixed beliefs.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	And that's what they do.
	They challenge the fixed beliefs.
	She goes on to talk about how she's seen him in a one-on-one situation.
	Turn a religious person within five minutes.
	He thinks one of the things is challenging.
	Somebody's got a fixed belief.
	You don't like it.
	You challenge and challenge.
	And you have more tools at your disposal to change their mind than they do to change your mind because they're kids.
	And she says she's watched the kid turn into an atheist in less than five minutes.
	It was a religious Catholic or what.
	Yeah.
	The guy's really good.
	Geez, that's more like hypnosis almost, it seems, if you can do it in five minutes.
	Well, persuasion, I think when Scott Adams talks about...
	Ah, yes, persuasion.
	About...
	And hypnotic tricks used to persuade.
	I think that's what we're dealing with here.
	But this guy also, you know, he's pretty much trained the whole education system to be this way, which is to change.
	You got a kid, he's, you know, raised a certain way.
	I mean, this is why the Amish and some of these other...
	Yeah, they don't want any electronics, no technology.
	They don't want anyone near their kids.
	Right.
	And the kid can make a decision, and many have, a lot of them unsuccessfully, because it's kind of such a radical difference.
	To go into the real world or the other world and get a job or do work there.
	There's some towns where there's a lot of small businesses that have a lot of Amish employees and they're great furniture makers.
	And the kids sometimes can fall in love with an outsider and It doesn't work so much depending on the family background, the kid, whether the kid can handle it.
	There's a lot of stress.
	How about the music they listen to?
	How about those influences?
	I mean, this is big stuff.
	The kids?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I agree.
	A couple of kids.
	Go ahead.
	The black community's got a different set of music that they listen to and promote.
	I'd say white girls are listening to the same music as the black community.
	I don't see any difference there.
	Well, maybe.
	There were a couple of kids in Jutland who designed an experiment They took cress seeds.
	Is that like water cress seeds?
	I guess.
	They took 400 seeds, separated them out across 12 different trays.
	Six of the trays were placed in two rooms.
	Both rooms were kept at the same temperature.
	Both sets of trays were given the same amount of water and access to sunlight throughout the experiment.
	The difference between the two rooms...
	In one room, they were placed next to two Wi-Fi routers, and the other room was not next to Wi-Fi routers.
	In fact, there was no Wi-Fi and no cell phone anywhere near it.
	After 12 days, and it's in the show notes, 994.noagendanotes.com, you see the difference.
	If this is true, I have no reason to believe it isn't.
	The Wi-Fi room...
	These seeds are destroyed.
	They're dead.
	They just look like brown ant poop.
	Or dead ants, really.
	Quite telling.
	And it's hurting.
	Well, it's not like we didn't know it.
	But it's...
	Start with this for your kids.
	Take the cell phone away at night.
	Don't put it next to their bed.
	Well...
	We're starting to get reports on this.
	People shouldn't be using the phone so much, or they shouldn't have the headphones, or they should use...
	Well, the claim is it destroys your DNA. I thought that only happened when you went through the airport scanner.
	Well, the new airport scanner, which is a MillerWave, I don't think it really has much of an effect on you.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	They need to study, but they don't want to study it because there was too much money involved.
	Oh my God, we're going to be out of business if somebody finds out we're killing people.
	Right.
	Anyway, okay.
	Onward.
	Yes.
	Onward to less depressing topics.
	Oh, okay.
	Then we might as well shut the show down right now.
	I have nothing but depressing topics.
	Actually, no, I got some fun topics.
	You probably heard this happen over the Christmas break.
	The gift wrapped package of horse manure delivered to the L.A. home of U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin over the weekend.
	Well, this man claims he did it.
	45-year-old Robert Strong, a psychologist for the Los Angeles County Public Health Department, told Reuters on Monday he left the poop-filled parcel addressed to Mnuchin and President Donald Trump to protest the federal tax overall signed into law last week.
	Which she believes will hurt poor people.
	He left it in the driveway outside Mnuchin's home in the posh Bel Air neighborhood, causing a lockdown that required the LAPD bomb squad to come x-ray and later open the package.
	Neither the U.S. Secret Service nor the LAPD would confirm Strong was the culprit.
	The Secret Service interviewed a person who admitted delivering the package, but no charges had been filed against him as of Monday afternoon.
	Strong posted a photo of the card on Twitter.
	It read, Misters Mnuchin and Trump were returning the gift of the Christmas tax bill.
	Warmest wishes, the American people.
	Nice to know he's a psychologist working for the government.
	That makes a lot of sense.
	Yeah, what an idiot.
	I think they should throw the book at him.
	It's terrorism.
	No, it's not terrorism.
	Yeah, it is.
	I consider it terrorism.
	Terrorizing the guy.
	It's like sending some crazy package, putting it on the porch.
	Yeah.
	Could have blown up.
	It's a shitty form of terrorism.
	Ah, there it is.
	Good one.
	I got a little fun quote from Bernie Sanders complaining about the tax bill.
	I don't think he realized himself how stupid he sounds, because now it's down to, we really have nothing left to say.
	And again, I have no idea if this is going to work.
	I know that it certainly worked for the Christmas holiday.
	Seems like spending was up despite crap weather.
	4.9%.
	That's a big deal, isn't it?
	That's almost 4%.
	Yeah, that's pretty good.
	No, 4.9% is over a 4%.
	Oh, jeez.
	That's much better than I thought.
	As you pointed out, they're making them just temporary.
	These tax cuts, it's a scam.
	Yeah.
	You get it until 2025.
	Yeah, 2025, and then it can sunset.
	But it's a scam!
	And it probably won't, because nobody likes to take tax cuts away.
	Let's listen to his bit here with Jake Tapper.
	Next year, 91% of middle-income Americans will receive a tax cut.
	Isn't that a good thing?
	Yeah, it is a very good thing.
	And that's why we should have made the tax breaks for the middle class permanent.
	But what the Republicans did is made the tax breaks for corporations permanent.
	Bastards!
	The tax breaks for the middle class temporary.
	And according to the Tax Policy Center, that same organization, at the end of 10 years, 83% of the benefits go to the top 1%.
	60% of the benefits go to the top 1 tenth of 1%.
	Meanwhile, at the end of 10 years, well over 80 million Americans will be paying more in taxes.
	13 million Americans as a result of this legislation are going to lose their health insurance.
	Health care premiums are going up.
	We got a $1.4 trillion deficit as a result of this bill.
	And Paul Ryan is going around saying, oh, we have to offset that deficit by cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
	To answer your questions...
	Should we have focused on the needs of the middle class?
	We should have.
	But the bulk of the benefits in this legislation go to large, profitable corporations and to millionaires and billionaires.
	Yes, we screw everybody else.
	Well, of course, he's nuts.
	Yeah.
	And...
	Most of what he said is bullcrap.
	But moreover, 2025, so let's presume Trump...
	By the way, if you say that, if he says we should have done this and we shouldn't have let it sunset, okay, fine.
	Then when 2025 comes along, the Democrats will probably be in office.
	I was going to say, 2020, if Trump gets re-elected, he'll go through 2024.
	2025, two Republican terms, it's probably going to be a Democrat.
	Yeah, so they can just put it back in.
	It's not a big deal.
	He's assuming it's permanent.
	It can't be done.
	I'm very curious to see how this works out.
	The thing is the cycle.
	I'm a big fan of your cycles.
	We've been waiting for something to happen.
	Looking at the streets of downtown Los Angeles, it seems like things are not all too rosy.
	No, they're terrible.
	Or go look under any bridge or overpass in America.
	It could be a very hard collapse, is what I'm thinking.
	Well, they're always different.
	That's the real problem with predicting or understanding these things.
	Every time there's a collapse, it's always different.
	The triggering mechanism is different.
	What happens is different.
	How it's handled is different.
	And this will be different.
	Whatever it is, it's going to be different.
	It could be that Bitcoin could trigger the whole thing for all we know.
	I mean, it's possible.
	If everyone loses their ass...
	Although, I have to say, the only thing that I see with Bitcoin, it is starting to level out.
	I mean, we have kind of a consistent range.
	That actually makes it more attractive to be used as money.
	But believe me, the government is not going to go easy on you taking your dollars and converting them into Bitcoin and vice versa.
	No, they killed their friend Gaddafi.
	Yeah, for the gold dinar.
	Yeah, because he was going to do a gold dinar, and that was that.
	That's one of our old no-agenda theses, and only old-timers would know what we're talking about.
	Since we're talking about big corporations taking everything and doing all this stuff, I have a lighter clip I want to just get out of the way.
	And then I have a question for you.
	Okay.
	This is the singing flight attendant.
	Okay, no other setup?
	No.
	And the Southwest flight attendant getting national attention tonight for a special serenade.
	Charisse Miles belting out beautiful music at a Houston gate this weekend.
	A student of music and a believer in its power, Charisse says she likes to sing her way through Christmas.
	I'm going to call me in my dreams.
	Woo!
	There's fresh travelers cleaning an enthusiastic audience.
	Cherise with 20 years on the job.
	And when we come back, a different type of crime-fighting tool.
	On patrol with the police who say the practice of meditation is changing lives.
	Stay with us.
	I left that last part in because it was funny.
	This is kind of just an open question.
	I've noticed this.
	How many companies...
	Especially in the airline business, would let and probably encourage that woman.
	And by the way, she was using one of those microphones with the button and the curly thing hanging out at the bottom.
	It's the worst microphone you can imagine.
	My first Sony?
	Yeah, something like that.
	But she could get through it.
	But how many companies, except for Southwest...
	Would ever allow this?
	Southwest lets people do monologues.
	They do stand-up comedy.
	They do all this stuff.
	This is all based on what PSA used to allow.
	They were all the same way.
	PSA used to have a smiley face painted on the airplanes.
	And they would let this go on.
	These other airlines, they are getting a stick up their butt.
	And they wouldn't let anything like this happen.
	What is the deal?
	I mean, do you have...
	What is the concept here where you...
	Can let this happen without it disrupting anything, and in fact, encourage it.
	I think it's a very positive thing.
	It's extremely positive.
	We flew Southwest, and I always enjoy the jokes the purser will make.
	Yeah, the joke, yeah.
	And yeah, put the thing on your mouth.
	My favorite is...
	Except for a child or if he's acting like a child.
	Yes.
	The jokes are pretty much on public domain.
	That or decide which child you want to...
	has the best chance of living, put their mask on first.
	That was a good one, too.
	You know, that's what we used to be.
	We've become a whole bunch of politically correct douches.
	But when it happens in a...
	I think...
	It's probably very specific to the airline industry.
	You know, people are nervous.
	They like the idea of flying, but they really don't like the idea of flying.
	There's always, you know, could something bad happen?
	So there's a nervous energy, and it really breaks the tension.
	It's the perfect environment.
	In fact, they should just have stand-up comedians in airplanes all the time.
	Yeah.
	It makes people feel very comfortable.
	I'd sit through a couple of sets.
	Bring the guy out.
	Just do the whole flight, because they're short flights.
	Do a whole hour.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Screw the in-flight movie.
	Just do a set.
	Well, luckily, Southwest has no in-flight movies and never has, never will.
	Well, they don't have in-flight movies, but now you can connect to their Wi-Fi and stream TV for free.
	Yes, you have to have your own computer.
	Yeah, pretty much everyone has that.
	It's true.
	Yeah.
	Vanity Fair getting a lot of heat for being a part of the liberal no more Clinton gang, the never Hillaryers.
	We don't really have the never Trumpers, never Hillary's.
	We don't have a word for it, a term.
	Because nobody does it.
	Well, Vanity Fair released this Christmas video.
	It's time to start working on your sequel to your book, What Happened?
	What the hell happened?
	Get some on your tech staff to disable autofill on your iPhone so that typing in F doesn't become form exploratory committee for 2020.
	You know on Anderson Cooper you were telling him about alternate nostril breathing?
	You seem really adept.
	You should try teaching a class.
	Take more photos in the woods.
	How else are you going to meet unsuspecting hikers?
	Take up a new hobby in the new year.
	Volunteer work, knitting, improv comedy, literally anything that'll keep you from running again.
	To finally put away your James Comey voodoo doll.
	Now we all know you think that James Comey cost you the election, and he might have, but so did a handful of other things.
	It's a year later and time to move on.
	So, cheers to you, Hillary Clinton.
	Cheers to you, Hillary.
	Cheers to you, Hillary Clinton.
	So, on the face bag, there was quite the outrage about this.
	How could you say this?
	Because, the defense, it's misogynistic to say, take up knitting.
	You know, I know a lot of guys who knit.
	My mom used to tell me that football players, she knew football players who knitted.
	Yeah.
	It's a form of meditation for some people and it's very healthy.
	I can knit.
	I can do only one stitch, but I can knit.
	I can't knit.
	I actually would like...
	If I... I don't know why, but I'm not interested in learning, but I should, because every once in a while, especially if you go to a government office, you're sitting there, you can do some reading, you can do different things, you usually forget to bring something, nowadays you bring your cell phone, you'll read the news, but sitting there and knitting is probably a better use of your time.
	Very cathartic.
	Suck.
	But it was just interesting to see, that was the main, like, well, it's misogynistic!
	Talking about women knitting!
	And a lot of women like to knit.
	Yeah, my daughter knits.
	Why are you condemning them?
	Because they have nothing else to condemn.
	It's just Dimension B stuff.
	Just going nuts.
	Yeah, it's going nuts.
	Very, very tough couple of days on the face bag.
	New York Times, though, made a great point about something that we've always questioned.
	So, in Alabama, we had this election, and what was it, 98% of all black men, black women came out to vote for Jones?
	Yeah.
	Not Jones, the other guy.
	I'm sorry.
	No, it was Jones.
	It was Roy Moore, the guy they hated.
	Right.
	So, the New York Times...
	Actually, their headline is, Black turnout in Alabama complicates debate on voting laws.
	Alabama is one of the premier states where they have voter ID and it's going to make it possible for African Americans to vote because they don't have a driver's license, don't know where to get a government ID. How does that work?
	I should remind everybody that we had a number of clips of black, that somebody went on and asked black people about Any of these things.
	Just because we're black doesn't mean we don't have driver's licenses.
	We drive.
	What are they talking about?
	Mm-hmm.
	Anyway, go on.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, no, that was it.
	Excellent point, and it was nice to see it from the New York Times.
	Yes, exactly.
	Alabama is a state that has voter ID laws.
	Yeah, it's a target state for the Democrats.
	So how does that work?
	You don't want voter ID because you can't run people through twice or three times.
	That's what the Republicans would say.
	In agreement.
	Yeah, yeah, Bill, he lives with me.
	I know he hasn't got a driver's license or he doesn't have anything.
	In fact, he's just a guy.
	Birth certificate?
	No, nothing.
	All right, what do we have here?
	I got like a bunch of short clips.
	I'm going to do a clip blitz at the end.
	Okay.
	I do have, we should do the weather report, which is apparently costing us money.
	Record cold temperatures, dangerously cold windchill values as the jet stream dives to the south.
	Air straight out of the Arctic in place with windchill warnings and advisories up from the northern plains stretching to New England.
	We're talking about windchill values 15 to 35 below zero.
	Tomorrow morning, even in the afternoon, sub-zero windchill values will continue through the end of the week on Friday with the heart of the cold air.
	Digging from central Canada into the Great Lakes and then east towards north of New England.
	Frostbite in as little as 15 to 30 minutes.
	Precautions need to be taken.
	Bundle up, layer up.
	Snow spreading from the northern plains to the Great Lakes for Thursday and into Friday will drop an additional several inches.
	In fact, the northern tier of the United States will see these totals.
	See the deep pinks here?
	Another storm system coming out of the Pacific will drop one to two feet of snow with elevation from Idaho to Montana near zero visibility three to six inches in central Iowa, as well as localized amounts, a lane where they've already had feet of snow over a foot additional on the east side of the Great Lakes.
	Back to you.
	Oh, I missed the vortex word in that report.
	Yeah, because there wasn't any.
	I saw one yesterday that showed it was the vortex.
	Oh, whatever that is.
	Yeah.
	Cool there.
	So I guess Erie, Pennsylvania, like six feet.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	It's a white Christmas, man.
	Hey, white Christmas!
	Merry white Christmas!
	Interestingly, which website?
	Was it a government website?
	Oh, a Canadian government website.
	I wish I had a clip, but it's horizons.gc.ca.
	We're indoctrinating the kids of Scandinavia by saying because of global warming, Santa Claus signed an international agreement to relocate his workshop to the South Pole to escape the effects of man-made global warming.
	That is pathetic.
	And this is what's going on in schools, too.
	That is pathetic.
	It's child abuse.
	I agree.
	It is child abuse.
	Alright, I got another one here then.
	This is a...
	I don't have the whole...
	I do have the whole thing in the archive, but we're not playing that.
	I just archived it.
	This is that guy, Jerry Van Dyke, who was, I believe, working for somebody.
	And this is only a small snippet of...
	Who is it?
	I don't remember who he is.
	He's the guy who wrote that book about the kidnapping networks in the Middle East, and he was kidnapped himself.
	Oh, okay.
	Yes, we've discussed him recently.
	Yes, I remember now.
	Now, he has a couple of things.
	This is only out of the middle.
	I just took this segment because there's two things in here I wanted to note.
	One is that he has all the characteristics of a spook.
	And he looks like one.
	He's got the gray hair, everything.
	Perfect.
	And he has two little things in here that I want to just discuss for a second.
	I had another contract through the Council on Foreign Relations to trace all the various networks that emanate from Pakistan and Yemen and Saudi Arabia with ISIS because I am in this unique position because of my age and background and I'm not married and I don't have children and I still go out and do this.
	With those men who were our allies, who are today our enemies, whether they're in Yemen, whether they're in Egypt, or whether they're in Pakistan.
	And that's what I was doing.
	And I went back to Pakistan.
	I went back after Stephen Sotloff was murdered.
	I secretly went back to Afghanistan, frightened that as soon as I entered the country and went to the airport, that my name was on a list because the jailer said, we're not going to let the bird out of the cage a second time.
	You know, the Taliban just don't wear beards and black turbans.
	They're clean-shaven and they're everywhere.
	Very sophisticated operation.
	And I went to see my friend who I thought was...
	that I had...
	Because of my relationship to him and that I had been kidnapped.
	And we sat in a hotel and I told him the whole story and he said no.
	And he said it's this.
	And he told me it's 180 degrees different.
	And my advice to you is to leave very soon because what you are involved in here is something much greater than yourself and it's far too dangerous and you must leave.
	So the next day I went to see the former head of the NDS which is the combination CIA-FBI. Okay.
	Okay, first of all, he's being hired to do spook work for the Council on Foreign Relations.
	That was nice.
	Nice little additional bit.
	He dropped a lot of little things.
	He should be taken out of...
	Off these circuits.
	He also mentioned an MI6 officer who's going on and on and on.
	Until he says she, you realize he's talking to some female MI6 person.
	But the one that got me more than even the Council on Foreign Relations thing was the NDS. Yeah, what is a National Defense System?
	You tell me.
	I went out of my way looking for any reference to this operation, a combination of CIA, FBI, which kind of puts me in the mood of thinking of the Trump situation, the CIA trying to screw him with all these leaks, and the FBI going after him, and I would say that it sounds like they're in cahoots.
	Well, I just binged it, because as you know, we bing it here, bingit.io.
	NDS stands for National Directorate of Security.
	The primary intelligence agency of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
	I don't believe that's what he's talking about.
	Well, okay.
	Would make sense that there's a bunch of CIA spooks involved in it.
	Yes, it would.
	I'm trying to think what else could it be.
	Did he mention the FBI? I was just looking at the Wikipedia entry.
	Could be.
	Unless the FBI has mentioned I'm not buying it.
	That's being what he's talking about.
	He says it was a combination of FBI-CIA, which I didn't know existed.
	It also makes no sense for those two to be a combo, unless somehow they've come together.
	Well, we do know that the FBI is often involved in overseas investigations.
	The FBI came in to look at the bombing situation.
	There's hundreds of FBI agents in Amsterdam just sitting there doing FBI work in Amsterdam.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	When did the FBI become an international agency?
	When all oversight was lost and they can do whatever the hell they want, which seems to be happening, which makes me very anxious.
	Well, I don't know anything.
	You can't find much out about this FBI, CIA, NDS thing.
	Well, for sure we have enough producers who might have this information for us.
	Well, I'm hoping that somebody does.
	That's why I played the clip.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah, I just caught me...
	This whole...
	The entire interview with this character, which is available on C-SPAN if somebody wants to go track it down.
	Well, and we have it in the show notes, all 17 minutes of it.
	It's quite interesting because he...
	You can see it.
	He's constantly thinking about what he can and cannot say.
	And so most of the interview is this.
	And that'll go on for like 20 seconds.
	And then he'll say something.
	And so he's very careful.
	But he's not so careful as not to kind of tell us that the Council on Foreign Relations is hiring spooks and that there's this operation called the NDS and that some of these MI6 people over here floating around are women.
	Check this out.
	Okay, I found something here.
	This might help us.
	The Taliban's capture of Kunduz in 2015 was the worst kind of intelligence failure where intelligence cooperation among the NDS, National Security Agency of Afghanistan, the NSA is what that is, Ministry of Defense and Interior Ministry was weak.
	This failure was because the security alerts and intelligence reports regarding the Taliban's plan of capturing the city were not taken seriously but were simply overlooked by the MOD and MOL. Kunduz's capture should not have come as a surprise given the amount of territory the Taliban was already controlling.
	Here it is.
	However, Kunduz's rapid fall and slow recapture was an intelligence failure.
	Intelligence gathering, processing, and analysis has been a complicated problem ever since the establishment of the NDS with the assistance of the Central Intelligence Agency.
	Now, it doesn't explain how the FBI is involved.
	I think that's a secret.
	You might be onto something with this might be the group he's talking about.
	But I think it's a secret that the FBI's got anything to do with this or anything for that matter going on in Afghanistan.
	And he let it slide, put it out there.
	We picked it up.
	Nobody else will, of course.
	And I think somebody screwed up and let this guy, let this information escape.
	I'm going to listen to that whole thing.
	It's called, what is it called here?
	The Archive I Sent.
	Yeah, Jerry Van Dyke, All Archive.
	It'll be in the show notes under the clips and docs.
	Definitely have a listen to that.
	That's interesting.
	I like that.
	Are you familiar with Benoma?
	The country of Benoma?
	No.
	Well, neither is Nikki Haley.
	Well, don't blame her.
	Now MSNBC, AM Joy, Joy Reid.
	As she knows.
	They're into trolling people.
	This is the new normal on MSNBC. This time around, it's with UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.
	She reportedly got a call from a person she thought was the Prime Minister of Poland, who wanted to talk about elections in the mystery nation of Bonomo.
	You know Bonomo?
	Yes, yes.
	Yes, yes.
	Ambassador Haley totally knows Bonomo.
	Everyone knows Bonomo.
	Except there is no island of Bonomo.
	It does not exist.
	Bonomo is not real.
	But we won't let that stop us from rolling the tape.
	You know Bonomo?
	Yes, yes.
	They declared independence.
	Right.
	They had elections and we suppose Russia had its intervention.
	Yes, of course they did.
	Absolutely.
	And now this binoma land makes the situation in the South China Sea even more tense.
	And we're aware of that, and we've been watching that very closely, and I think we'll continue to watch that as we deal with the issues that keep coming up about the South China Sea.
	Yes, that's correct.
	What should be done because of this binoma?
	Let me find out exactly what our stance is on that and what, if anything, the U.S. is doing or thinks should be done, and I will report back to you on that as well.
	It's funny.
	Why don't they just do one of those old shows?
	Remember, I guess it was in the 70s, mostly, where they had these goofballs, mostly DJs, calling people up with all the bull crap.
	Hey, everybody!
	It's time for another prank phone call!
	In fact, it was one famous prankster duo that put a number of albums out.
	The Jerky Boys.
	The Jerky Boys.
	Yep.
	Yeah, so now MSNBC has become the Jerky Boys.
	Yeah, good work MSNBC. Good work for your reputation.
	We got you.
	Now, I do think it does bring up one thing, which is, and I think this is the Trump administration's fault, the ease in which people lie.
	She doesn't know what the fuck's going on, and she says this.
	This will ruin her reputation.
	Good.
	I never liked this woman.
	I don't think she was put in that position because of her great view on the New World Order.
	I think she was put in there to be destructive.
	Well, good.
	But she's doing a poor job of that, even.
	I don't think she's doing a very good job.
	But the fact that she'll just...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sure.
	Just...
	Lie, or it's not even lying, because lying is something that you do, I think, overtly.
	She's just bullshit.
	Bullcrapping.
	Bullcrapping, yeah.
	And you could call any representative or senator, pretend you're making a donation, say you're from Bonomo, then the call will be taken.
	Yes, this is true.
	In fact, that's something our producers can work on before Sunday.
	Call Maxine Waters about a big donation from the country of Bonomo.
	And you'll fool her.
	You'll get her on the phone.
	So one of our producers sent in a note saying that somebody...
	Oh, no, it was on Twitter.
	Somebody met Maxine Waters or saw Maxine Waters having a hissy fit on an airplane because, you know, something was wrong with her seat.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	One knows enough.
	This is such a dumb story.
	That's why I would not bring it up.
	It was Sheila Jackson Lee.
	Ah, right.
	Yeah.
	And it was a woman who had a first-class seat.
	The airline says it was canceled.
	So she got an Economy Plus seat.
	And then Sheila Jackson Lee was in her seat.
	And she says, ah, this is...
	And I think the problem is that Sheila Jackson Lee then said, you're a racist.
	Which is kind of her go-to, I guess.
	Sure, I would.
	You're a racist.
	But when you read between...
	I really don't care about the story.
	I'm sure it's just a mess.
	Stuff happens with airlines, fine.
	But when you read that Sheila Jackson Lee is escorted to her seat by a special gate attendant so she can settle in comfortably.
	I mean, come on.
	So I have a letter here from...
	I don't know what his name is.
	I think it's Jackson, but he calls, he likes to call himself Jack King.
	So he's probably a character.
	But he did say something which I started thinking about because we talked the story up.
	It was one of the major networks.
	They played this story.
	And then I started thinking about, you know, when I was at Mevio, every day, as a matter of fact, at noon, a siren would go off.
	An old civil defense siren that uses kind of a clock.
	And every new thing would start making a racket.
	Love the show, you keep me sane, he writes.
	I'm a couple weeks behind on the show, so if you've already corrected this, please disregard.
	Late in show 987, you played a clip about Hawaii sounding as air raid sirens, also known as the Civil Defense Warning System, for the first time since the Cold War.
	And then we attributed this to their freaky about North Korea.
	And I'm not sure where this report came from, but it is bull crap.
	This system is used for air raids, tsunamis, and hurricanes, and is tested on the first Monday of the month.
	Every month.
	For at least the last 30 years.
	I grew up in Hawaii.
	And as kids, we would have to do drills every month in school where we'd hide under our desks for an air raid or run to the mountains for a tsunami.
	If this is not as a test, but because there was an incoming attack, maybe it would have been a first since the war.
	However, as a test is simply not true what was presented by the news network.
	And I agree.
	Thought about it and I said, obviously this was going on.
	Somebody saw this and created a bogus fake news report.
	And we played it straight up as if it was a fact.
	You want to find that?
	If you can find it.
	Was it Hawaii, or would you have titled that?
	Hawaii Air Raid, Hawaii Siren.
	Yeah, no, it's actually Hawaiian Air Raid Oluwurt.
	Oluwurt.
	Oh, right, Oluwurt for alert.
	Across Hawaii today, a blast from the past.
	Warning sirens in paradise.
	They blared in Hawaiian cities and villages for the first time since the end of the Cold War.
	It was just a test in response to the threat of an attack from North Korea.
	Oh, there you go.
	Yeah!
	Fake news!
	And that was CBS Network News.
	Nice.
	So there you have it.
	All right, before we get into our second thank you segment, it's finally happening.
	I have warned for this.
	Now it's in ad week.
	Big news.
	And it actually started with Ozzy, who I hate with a passion.
	Who's Ozzy?
	So if you go to ozy.com, it's a news site, but they do profiles.
	And they raised $35 million for this news profile site.
	And why I don't like them is, they have professional journos.
	I got a call, professional, I think we talked about this.
	Well, maybe not.
	A professional journo, it's like, oh, I want to interview you, profile.
	Do profile.
	I'm like, eh, I don't usually do that stuff, but they seem to have profiles of important people, so I'm flattered.
	Okay, I'm looking at it now.
	I will say this.
	I've never seen this site before.
	They've got 35 million.
	Maybe they should put a little into maybe advertising.
	Ah!
	Well, it's interesting you bring this up.
	It turns out that a number of advertisers are very disappointed With the bots clicking on videos that they are paying to advertise on Aussie.
	And I just want to say their business model works as following.
	They interview somebody, and you think, okay, it's great, but my interview will be published.
	No, no, no.
	When there's news about you, then we'll put that up.
	Like, well, why didn't you tell me that in the first place?
	Because, you know, I said, hey, when is this going to go up?
	No, no, no.
	I said, when there's something notable about you, then we have the profile, then we put it up.
	So that's bullshit.
	And I feel very insulted that you did this.
	You've been interviewed by these guys?
	Yes.
	Oh, when was this?
	Probably a year ago, maybe a year and a half.
	And never published.
	It's never been published.
	So you just were used.
	No, I have to die.
	If I die, then, oh, look, we have an article.
	Well, We'll put this up.
	Well, that's a very interesting scheme.
	So they claim 40 million people a month come to their site.
	Bullcrap.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's more like a million and a half.
	I doubt that, too.
	Well, no, you could get to a million.
	But Ozzy is defending this by saying, well, when we purchased this audience traffic, we thought it would all be real people.
	Now, just let that sink in for a second.
	They're purchasing traffic to their website, which is not...
	This is not your typically qualified person who you want to consume your ads.
	Now, Procter& Gamble, Bank of America, Unilever, they're all saying, wait a minute, this is bullcrap, we want more transparency.
	And you and I know...
	And we want our money back is what they should say.
	Yeah, well, they're going to stop spending.
	Yeah, stopping spending is not the same as getting ripped off.
	Right.
	I think it's been the big secret.
	We knew it.
	It's one of the reasons I didn't want to continue my own company.
	It's the concept of arbitrage.
	It's very simple.
	There's many companies, like I think one is called Monopoly Inc.
	or something, or Monopoly LLC, and you can buy clicks and video views from them, and you purchase it the same way ads are purchased.
	You buy it on a CPM basis, cost per thousand, and in this case, it's clicks.
	So if someone watches the video, And it's 1,000 of them, you'll pay $5.
	You turn around and you sell that traffic, those so-called eyeballs, to the advertising network or the direct to like a BMW, which is a case I happen to know, and you sell it for $7 per thousand.
	Or more in some situations.
	Yes.
	And then you take that little piece in the middle and you make shit content from it.
	And you take your profit.
	And that's how all of them are operating.
	And it happens most at the end of a quarter when someone's getting ready to do a round of financing.
	You just go out, you buy some traffic, you show the numbers.
	Oh, there I am.
	It's beautiful.
	And it's a huge, huge scam.
	And eventually...
	And everybody does it.
	That's why our model...
	Yes.
	...has nothing to do with any of that stuff.
	We are the most...
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, the cue was, we don't do any of that stuff.
	That would have been perfect.
	Yeah, well, I was going to make it even more elaborate, more interesting.
	But you stepped all over me with the, get me right into the, to thanking people.
	I'm so sorry.
	But, you're right.
	It would have been.
	But I wasn't, you know, the funny thing was, I thought we were actually going to have a discussion.
	Oh, you want to discuss it now then?
	No, no, we don't need to discuss it.
	I think you made your point.
	And I say, you make this point a lot, and I think it's a good point to be made, because you have to realize that a lot of these operations out there are not like us.
	We get direct We get our money directly from the listener and the producer, as it were.
	It's the value for value, and it works.
	So we can bitch about all this other stuff.
	This is a scam.
	Yes.
	Well, I'm sorry that you wasted your time.
	Well, when I'm dead, they'll publish it.
	It'll be groovy.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, I'm guessing that they're going to be dead before you are.
	And they'll never publish it.
	Let's start thanking a few people, starting with David Feigl.
	Fugas Zotto, who says, he came in with $100 and says, Merry Christmas.
	Dominic DeVito comes in for $100 and he says, continue hitting him in the mouth.
	So let's just thank everybody.
	Sir Phenom of the Patriots Nation, Appleton, Wisconsin, $82.50.
	And you can read along and see if there's anything we need to talk about.
	I will.
	Herb Lamb, 8008, a boob.
	Gerald Preston, 8008.
	A boob.
	And I think Gerald is the one who sent in two donations that were...
	He had a big boob and a small boob.
	Oh!
	I might be wrong.
	It's only was Brandon Turner.
	When we get to Brandon Turner, stop me.
	Okay.
	I know where Brandon Turner's not on the boob list, is he?
	No.
	Why is that?
	I don't know.
	Well, that's weird.
	Well, Brandon Turner also sent...
	I believe 8008.
	I don't know why it's not on here.
	Gerald Preston.
	Michael Freeze.
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, nuts.
	There's a moth in the house.
	Oh!
	Michael Fries or Fries Michael.
	It says 8008.
	Chris Engler.
	Boob for Christmas.
	What else?
	What would more people want?
	Sir Chris, by the way.
	David Randall Lane 8008.
	Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona.
	7575.
	Oliver Aho.
	Really?
	And he has a...
	He wants a de-douching first-time donor.
	I'd like to thank you and John...
	John Mondro for hitting me in the mouth and call out Jeff Reese for never donating.
	Douchebag!
	What a douchebag!
	I'm going to need some karma as I'm 18 year old going off to college next month.
	Thanks for every...
	Yes, you're going to need a lot of that.
	I'll deduce you.
	You've been deduced.
	You have been deduced, my friend.
	Good.
	Anyway, that was 75 bucks from Oliver.
	David Ritchie in Mentor, Idaho.
	What a great name for a town.
	69, 69.
	Barron's Mark Tanner in Whittier, California.
	6666.
	Then we have David Lane, 6006.
	Huh.
	Okay, I'm going to stop here because this is also what we got here.
	So we had an 8008 And a 6006 from Brandon Turner.
	Okay.
	He also sent me a Nixie tube clock.
	Yes.
	He sent you one, too.
	Yes.
	Now, are those original old tubes in there?
	Or how is that?
	Or are those new?
	I think they're new tubes because the 5 is an upside-down 2.
	Yeah.
	Just explain this clock.
	Yeah.
	Okay, there's the Nixie tubes, or these old-fashioned displays that go back for wherever.
	They're very valuable nowadays.
	I think I had them in school, for the school clock at one point.
	Maybe.
	Could be.
	And Brand is Sir Peep Slayers, who it is.
	Which is what I put on the thing.
	I know I put it on there.
	I'm going to ask Eric what happened.
	He made these clocks out of this.
	I've gotten kind of close to setting it, but it's like a programmable thing.
	I had the exact same problem.
	I'm like, oh, let me just set it, and I'm like, okay, I'll do that tomorrow after the show.
	That's going to take a little time.
	It's going to take forever, because what he tells these instructions, he's got a whole page of instructions that don't make any sense at all.
	And so I have to ask him, he's going to have to get us on the phone, you and me separately, to set the clock.
	I mean, I followed the instructions.
	I read, I spent about an hour trying to set the clock.
	But you do it, you push down, and then the time the thing starts to flash, and you push the other button, it wouldn't go past 10.
	Yeah.
	Or you start doing the...
	Yeah.
	Or it would start setting the other side.
	Well, once it's working, it's a beautiful piece.
	I really like it a lot.
	It's very nice.
	Well, I got it within six minutes, but then I'm afraid to touch it now.
	Right.
	I also got a note from Harper.
	Yeah.
	His kid?
	Yeah.
	Merry Christmas, Adam.
	Can you play Ants?
	From Harper.
	Done.
	Done.
	End of show song.
	Put that on.
	Yeah.
	So we had...
	Anyway, that was...
	It was a great gift.
	I appreciate it.
	I love the thing.
	It's beautiful.
	But setting it, he needs a technical writer who knows how to do instructions.
	That's all I have to say.
	All right.
	All right, where was I? I was at the last one.
	Okay, we're off to Sir Patrick Coble out there in Tennessee, $59.95.
	He says, I'm donating to each show until then.
	$5 for show, $9.95, less of 2017 for the face bag users.
	I'm donating this each show until then.
	Don't eat out two to three times or cancel a subscription and make it happen.
	Yeah, he's been on the face bag promoting this idea.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	John Leibach in Glen Gardner, New Jersey, 5625, 26, 5626.
	Oh, here's Peeps.
	Here's Sir Peeps there, Brandon Turner, and he comes in with 5555.
	JCD has a note in the device.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, my mistake.
	Sorry, we're not going to call Eric.
	He sent in 5555 with a note and a device.
	The other two guys are accounted for.
	Yes.
	David Randall Lane is the guy who sent the two in.
	You can see it.
	David Randall Lane comes in twice at 8008 and 6006 for the small boob.
	Or you could say it's like different size boobs on either side.
	Yeah, like most women.
	Like women with no implants.
	The boobs aren't always the same.
	I would agree with that.
	Guys notices that most women are a little lopsided.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	I hate to use that word.
	And there's some women that do have true breasts that are not.
	Very unusual.
	Yes.
	It's like being ambidextrous.
	As it were.
	Sir Dan, Night of the Absurdly Large Campfire in Hathaway...
	Pines, California, 5510, double nickels on the dime.
	Ryan McConnell, 5105.
	Thank you for the great year.
	Don't forget about a Seattle area meetup.
	I am going to do one.
	Yes.
	Sooner than later.
	Surrounded by slaves.
	Surrounded by slaves.
	Nice, nice.
	It's also K0JBS. That's right.
	That's right.
	73 is Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie here.
	Surrounded by slaves, that was 75, 73.
	Scott Floyd in Clayton, California, 50, 17.
	He's one of our biggest Clayton fans.
	Kenneth Lindberg in Miami, Florida.
	These are the last ones.
	They're all $50 donors.
	Name and location, 50 each.
	James Butcher in Daluenu, Washington.
	Sir Peter to you.
	Totes in Sugarland, Texas.
	Jeffrey Zellin in Oakland, Michigan.
	Michael Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon.
	Michael Robinson in North, some town, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
	Rob Maxwell, 50, parts unknown.
	Richard Hewford, or Hufford, one of the two.
	Jeff Sackett.
	Anonymous.
	Brandon Mink.
	Sir Brandon Mink in Tempe, Arizona.
	Another anonymous.
	A lot of anonymouses.
	That was anonymous donating specifically to give tons of praise to Adam for that interview.
	If podcasting doesn't pan out, maybe being the Charlie Rose of kooks like us will work out better.
	Actually, who's going to replace Charlie Rose?
	Maybe you.
	That would be great.
	Tell me about your sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. Patrick Macomb, Sir Patrick, in New York City.
	Oliver Gard, G-A-R-D, in Portland, Oregon.
	Edgar Almaguer.
	Almaguer.
	Almaguer.
	Nils Bonnaker.
	Louis Pasteur.
	Nils is in Hamburg, Deutschland.
	Louis Pasteur in Miami, Florida.
	Jesse Ferreira in Newberry, Berkshire, UK. Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California.
	Robert Makowski in Rhinebeck, New York.
	And that will conclude our group of well-wishers and happy producers that helped us do show 994.
	Yes.
	T-minus six to the big 1,000.
	Double producerships.
	Oh, you know, I just thought of something.
	What's that?
	The show may go off because I think everything we've coded is in COBOL, and when we get to 1,000, it's not going to turn over right.
	And what will I say in the opening?
	I mean, 9 or 9 of 4, am I going to do 1, 0, 0, 0?
	I don't know.
	Or 1, triple, 0?
	I think we need to get some consultants in and spend millions of dollars to fix this problem.
	1, 00, 0, 1, 001?
	We need to think about this.
	Not?
	We can say nil?
	How about nil?
	How about zed?
	I like nil.
	One nil, nil, nil.
	One nil, nil, nil.
	It sounds like a soccer game.
	Yeah, one nil, nil, nil.
	Yeah.
	I like.
	All right.
	I like zed.
	What else would it be?
	Nil.
	Someone will come up with something.
	Nada?
	One nada, nada, nada?
	Zilch.
	Zilch, zilch, zilch.
	One zilch, zilch, zilch.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
	And I want to thank Sam, Agro, and I think it's Leanne for sending me and the Keeper such a lovely handmade Christmas card.
	Very nice.
	You don't get a lot when you move to a new address.
	You don't get a lot of Christmas cards.
	I don't get a lot anymore.
	I mean, when I was, you know, in the 90s, late 90s, when PC Magazine was a monster and everybody was, I got millions of Christmas cards.
	I could decorate the fireplace with them from all these companies.
	And everybody signed, you know, the whole company signed out for this thing.
	And you get all these things.
	And now, same companies are in business.
	Now I get nothing.
	I get jib jabs on email.
	I get nothing.
	I don't even get any emails.
	Well, yeah, on email, once in a while, somebody says, or one of our donors will say, Happy Christmas or Happy New Year.
	But what happened to all these cards?
	It's over.
	It's over.
	It's no longer done.
	It's over.
	Thank you, everybody.
	This is the people who donated $50 and over up to the associate executive producerships.
	We really appreciate this.
	We do have another show coming up on Sunday.
	We need to end strong this year.
	So it'll be the new year?
	Was it the third show of the new year, I guess?
	I don't know.
	I noticed the date and put it on one of the newsletters.
	Yeah.
	It's like the 14th or something like that.
	I'm sure we'll have all kinds of special stuff.
	Yeah, we'll have a lead-up.
	Fantastic.
	Thank you again.
	It's our Value for Value model.
	We could not do it without you.
	you.
	We expect you to help for Sunday.
	Dvorak.org slash nm.
	I'm just all over the map today.
	Here we go.
	Lisa Long says happy birthday to her husband, Sir Knight, Sir Daniel.
	He turns 62.
	Brian Roediger, happy birthday to her son, Riker.
	He turns 6 on Christmas Day.
	Helen Trejo, happy birthday to David Aralanas.
	He celebrated on December 26th.
	John Livick says happy birthday to his son, Matthew.
	He turned 26 on the 24th.
	And finally, Kevin Anonymous has happy birthday to Peggy, who turns 25.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	Dang nation.
	Oh, we forgot to do some jobs karma for everybody.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	And karma, it's not my day today for some reason.
	Come on, karma.
	Jesus.
	This is because you've just missed one lone show.
	I know, I know.
	You've lost your touch.
	I did.
	You've got karma now.
	Alright, let's try this then.
	How about your blade?
	Do we have a blade?
	I got mine here.
	Yeah, here.
	Here it comes.
	Brian of London's dad.
	All right, step on up here.
	Kenneth Sortland, Micklebust.
	Simon Bruce Cassidy and Kevin Thomas.
	Please join us here on the podium.
	Gentlemen, you are about to be inducted into the No Agenda Roundtable of the Knights and Dames.
	And I hereby pronounce the KB, Sir Law of Israel.
	Sir Kenneth, the Norseman of Lich.
	Sir Snoldus of the Dude's Name, Ben, and Sir Kevlar, Knight of the Button Pressers.
	Gentlemen, for you, we have hookers and blow, rent boys, and chardonnay.
	We've got McAllen dim sum.
	We've got fish pie and fellatio.
	We've got brown cheese, aquavit, and small hova, and shemmerbrent, harlots and haldo, and, of course, some mutton and meat.
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	He'll make sure that that comes to you as soon as possible.
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	Just one today, A.J. Van Steenbergen, Sir Joseph Barron of Southern California, to be disputed and to be resolved with the Peerage Committee as soon as possible.
	Or not disputed.
	Maybe not disputed at all.
	You never know.
	And thank you again, everybody, for supporting your best podcast in the universe.
	I have an important report.
	Since I've been following this and I have standing in the area, the war on weed continues.
	After we heard this, well, I thought it was a very bogative report from Gitmo Nation GMT about Scrumit.
	You recall this report?
	Yes, I do recall this report.
	I ignored it, kind of, and I still am ignoring it, so I can't remember what it stands for.
	Well, it was in the Daily Mail, which is why...
	Something about vomiting and screaming.
	The concept of the story is if you smoke a lot of weed, then eventually you get this syndrome which combines screaming out for dear life and vomiting at the same time.
	Yeah, which, by the way...
	I don't...
	I live in California.
	There's plenty of people that smoke way too much weed.
	Dude, you had a partner for 10 years who smokes too much weed.
	That's you.
	Yes!
	I've never had this.
	It sounds like bullcrap.
	Well, it's come to the United States.
	A small percentage of people who smoke marijuana find that long-term use makes them sick with this violent vomiting illness.
	And in California, pot will be fully legalized in July.
	So doctors there worry that they might see more cases of this mysterious syndrome.
	Reporter Pauline Bartoloni has the story.
	Marijuana has been legal for medical use in California for longer than two decades.
	And as Chalfante Lene Queen points out about her neighbors at her San Diego apartment complex, smoking pot is a way of life here.
	Everybody here smokes.
	Smoke weed, smoke weed, smoke weed, smoke weed.
	Queen's 48 years old and says she's been smoking pot since she was a teenager.
	She says it helps her deal with depression and anxiety.
	But after five years of smoking all day, every day, Queen started to get very ill.
	My first time that I was actually sick and couldn't stop vomiting and in a great deal of pain and hospitalized, I was there for I think three or four days.
	That scenario played out over and over again for almost two decades.
	You're out of your mind in pain.
	Like, I've screamed out for death.
	I've cried out for my mom, who's been dead for 20 years, mentally not realizing she can't come to me.
	Queen and her health care providers never got to the bottom of what was causing her vomiting episodes.
	She dropped down to a frail 109 pounds and was dismissed from a job.
	I'm literally thinking I'm dying.
	I must have some sort of cancer, something they can't detect.
	Finally, a year and a half ago, an emergency physician gave her something to read about a condition called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.
	And that's when I Googled it.
	That's when I figured it out.
	People who smoke cannabis may be doubtful that the drug is linked to this strange vomiting illness.
	Truth is, the medical community has only recognized this syndrome for a little over a decade.
	A Colorado study found the number of people with the symptoms doubled when medical marijuana use surged.
	This is something that we've been seeing for many years, but has really increased in frequency.
	Dr.
	Amy Moulin works in the emergency department at UC Davis Medical Center.
	She estimates she sees the syndrome every other shift.
	She says it's frustrating because there's no one remedy.
	I'd have someone who was very distressed, intractable vomiting, and I would give them my usual cocktail of medications that almost always worked and it wouldn't work.
	Doctors say these episodes are expensive.
	That's because to rule out other medical problems, they have to order CAT scans and lab tests.
	Moulin says even when she tells patients to lay off the marijuana, they come back.
	A lot of times they don't believe me.
	I think it's because it's under-recognized syndrome.
	Marijuana is used for nausea, and so it's difficult sometimes for people to make that leap of Regular, heavy use can actually cause vomiting.
	Back in San Diego, Chalfante Lene Queen says she's relieved she finally got a diagnosis.
	She's back to a healthy weight and hasn't been back to the hospital in a year.
	She's cut down on her pot smoking, but not given it up completely.
	I don't want to discourage anybody from smoking weed or whatever at all.
	I just want people to just be aware that it exists.
	Now, if I get sick, as sad as I'll be, and as upset and disappointed with myself as I'll be, at least it's a freaking choice.
	Queen and the medical community say, as marijuana laws loosen, they want people to know about this syndrome, so they have that choice, too.
	So I did research.
	By the way, was Hillary at her place?
	What was the deal with the barking woman?
	It did sound like her, didn't it?
	You're right.
	I did some research.
	And very interesting to me that these symptoms can indeed occur and appear to occur in people who are on a very high-powered hormone replacement treatment, and specifically that is the transgender community.
	Yeah, and if you look at HRT and THC, that appears to be a combination that can make you very, very ill and psychotic at the same time.
	Now, the woman who was speaking didn't sound to me, I can't tell, I didn't see the video, I don't think she was transgendering, but this could be what's going on, and probably worse, that's what you might want to taint your weed supply with if you want to create some kind of reefer madness problem.
	Yes, well, I was suspicious the first time I heard this story and thought they'd been putting in that heroin analog.
	Yeah, fentanyl.
	Fentanyl, or the other stuff, the worst stuff.
	Right.
	Which would do...
	No, you'd just die.
	You'd just die with that stuff.
	Yeah, you probably would just drop.
	Yeah.
	I felt it was some sort of contaminated weed.
	Oh, it's definitely contaminated, but it may be with HRT. I don't know if that's easy to just sprinkle it on or how that works.
	But for sure, there's issues.
	Well, we've got a lot of people who smoke weed.
	Someone will have some ideas.
	Yeah, we probably do.
	Well, I do have a short three-clip clip blitz.
	One, two, wait a minute.
	One, two, three...
	Four.
	I can do a four-clip blitz.
	No, no, I can only do three.
	You want to do it?
	Yeah, we can.
	I mean, do you want to hear any other clips from me?
	Anything else?
	No, no, I'm not ending this show.
	Oh, okay, you're just doing clip blitz.
	Okay.
	Red 33!
	Clip blitz!
	Library of Congress and Twits.
	Tweeters.
	Few people knew this, but the Library of Congress began archiving tweets seven years ago.
	Every single tweet.
	But the novelty has worn off, especially with 500 million new tweets each day.
	So starting January 1st, only tweets the agency deems significant will be archived.
	Oh!
	Well, that's bogus.
	Ah, see, I knew the clip blitz wouldn't get very far.
	It is focused.
	It's a wonderful life movie for all you FBI fans.
	The classic film It's a Wonderful Life is a holiday tradition for many families this time of year, but you may not have known it was once considered communist propaganda by the FBI. A 1946 film stars Jimmy Stewart as a failed businessman who was about to lose his loan company to a rich and greedy banker.
	The Bureau singled out the portrayal of the banker as a common trick used by communists.
	It said the movie attempted to show people who had money were mean and despicable characters.
	It was deemed to be subversive, but was allowed to keep playing anyway.
	Red, 33!
	Flip blitz!
	Vegetables and dementia.
	This is great.
	The new health headline tonight involving vegetables and what your mother said, eating your vegetables just might make your mind 11 years younger.
	That's according to a new study showing that people who eat one to two servings daily of leafy green vegetables like kale, lettuce, or spinach have a slower rate of cognitive decline, potentially staving off dementia.
	That new study published in the journal Neurology.
	Red 33!
	Flip blitz!
	Well that was actually it, but let's play the ANA fiasco and we'll talk about it.
	Okay, ANA. Next tonight, the mid-air security scare raising serious questions tonight.
	Four hours into a Tokyo-bound flight from Los Angeles, the crew realizing a passenger had boarded the wrong plane, the pilot then turning around.
	Supermodel Chrissy Teigen with husband musician John Legend, you see them there, on board.
	They live-tweeted the entire episode.
	Passengers questioned back at LAX, and the FBI is now involved.
	Those travelers reticketed on a new flight that has just landed, and we're starting to hear from those passengers in Tokyo.
	But how did this mix-up happen in the first place?
	ABC senior national correspondent Matt Gutman is at LAX. Tonight, the FBI is investigating how a pair of brothers with a single boarding pass got on flight 175 from Los Angeles to Tokyo.
	The mistake only detected 2,000 miles into the flight when a head count revealed the extra passenger.
	You can see the flight's boomerang path leaving LAX at about noon and hooking right back to LAX, arriving just after 7.30.
	The all-Nippon Airways flight sequestered in a secure part of the airport.
	They discovered that a pair of brothers with nearly identical names allegedly used the same boarding pass.
	One of them did have a legitimate ticket for flight 175, while the other had a real ticket to Tokyo also, but with a partner airline United.
	Thank you so much for taking me on this awesome vacation, babe.
	Welcome to Los Angeles.
	One of the passengers on board, a very bemused supermodel, Chrissy Teigen.
	She was traveling with her husband, John Legend, tweeting, why did we all get punished for this one person's mistake?
	Why not just land in Tokyo and send the other person back?
	How is this the better idea, you ask?
	We all have the same questions.
	The airline partially answering that question in a statement today As part of the airline's security procedure, the pilot in command decided to return to the originating airport where the passenger was disembarked.
	Ultimately, it would cost passengers an extra eight hours in the air and a total delay of over 15 hours.
	Well, I'm mostly tired and pretty angry.
	Pretty angry.
	Alright, let's get right out to Matt Guttman.
	Matt, you mentioned those two brothers at the center of this mix-up.
	What's their status and are they to blame?
	Well, there's certainly to blame, but the FBI, Tom, hasn't yet decided whether or not to press charges.
	But also facing stiff questions will be the airline.
	Namely, how did it allow a passenger with a duplicate border card to get on board?
	And why wasn't an accurate head count made until after the flight was well underway?
	ANA could face some significant fines, Tom.
	All important questions still unanswered.
	All right, Matt, thanks so much.
	Bullshit!
	Exactly.
	No way.
	No way do they turn around because someone had the wrong boarding pass.
	Uh-uh.
	I agree.
	And here's a couple of interesting little tidbits that gave me that indicator.
	Luckily, they got the live tweeting model.
	And her tweets are actually kind of funny.
	I guess they had an internet connection on the plane.
	Yeah, I read them.
	It was very cute.
	Yeah, they're very cute.
	Now, a couple of things that I noticed.
	One, if you look for the story, and Associated Press apparently did a version of the story that no newspaper picked up on.
	In fact, if you Bing it, or Google it, using the news clip, the news head, where you just see news stories, all the news stories, every one of the stories that you see, one after the other, are all broadcast stations.
	Mm-hmm.
	I thought that was weird.
	You'd think that, you know, the Washington Post would have something about this.
	And then I tried to ferret the name of these two guys, which is not unusual.
	They have names.
	No.
	Do you have their names?
	Can you tell me what their names are?
	No.
	No, you won't.
	Try, try.
	Maybe it'll show up eventually.
	And then she made a good point on her tweets, is why are we going back?
	Well, we just continue on to Tokyo, land there, and you kick the guy off or do whatever you have to.
	He had a ticket to Tokyo on United, and they are code shares as far as I know.
	At least that's what the report said.
	So why don't you just leave him on the plane?
	What difference does it make?
	They obviously had the extra seat.
	So this stinks.
	This was a test by the TSA or some government group to see if they could do this to that airline.
	Probably one of the other airlines.
	These guys are lax.
	My thought was different.
	First of all, why they had stiff questions for everybody, and they interviewed people who were sitting around the passenger, apparently.
	But how about this?
	Maybe they didn't load enough fuel on board.
	There's something else.
	There is something else, and we're totally being bullshitted about this.
	We're totally being bullshitted, I agree.
	Now, the fuel concept, which I like, now that you mention it, Doesn't necessarily, it doesn't, I mean, it actually necessarily, let's back up.
	The Japanese pilots are terrible.
	They're the ones who land in the drink over here in San Francisco.
	They had this a couple of times.
	That's racist, man!
	They're terrible.
	They have all kinds of issues on the different Japanese airlines, and this was all Nippon.
	And so it could be, what you said could be correct.
	That was my first thought, was, oh crap, we didn't load enough fuel on board, we're going to be an hour short.
	Yeah, they could have glided in.
	They were taking a route that wasn't going over Hawaii.
	So they couldn't land in Hawaii and get some more fuel.
	Yeah.
	That's a possibility.
	I think it was a test.
	Because if it's true about the two, why would they have the two different boarding passes?
	The whole thing was sketchy.
	I mean, don't tell us the names.
	Are there Arabs?
	Are the barcodes, I mean, they had exactly the same barcodes and therefore it registered okay?
	It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
	No, that doesn't make any sense, and that's one of the things the model said.
	She says, what is it?
	The machine, it goes beep, beep, it doesn't do anything, it doesn't check with anything, it just beeps.
	Possibly.
	As you go through, and it is possible.
	Just like the button when you went across the street on the crosswalk, I'm pretty sure there's just two loose wires on the other end.
	Just to keep the slaves busy.
	Yeah, press this while you're waiting, stupid slave.
	Yeah, well...
	Whatever this was, this was something very phony about this story and you're not going to hear anything else about it.
	Well, we have enough people in aviation that something might leak out.
	And if it was a fuel issue or some other weight and balance, there could be a number of things.
	And I didn't consider the Japanese pilots.
	You're right.
	They suck.
	Who knows?
	It still could be a test.
	How long is it going to take for them to figure this out?
	We'll put an extra guy on the plane.
	Then what are they going to do?
	Are they going to come back?
	I mean, this really does stink.
	So the story was...
	But again, only broadcast.
	It was a TV story.
	That's right.
	And I love that broadcast doesn't question anything.
	Just, oh, that's what we got?
	Okay, that's fine.
	It makes nothing but sense.
	I don't know.
	I can't think of a single instance when someone who was on board that they turned around, certainly after four hours of flight time.
	So we have all these stories of, remember this, all the, yeah, four hours, geez.
	And then four hours back.
	We have all these stories about, remember that woman that used to sneak on board constantly and she was flying all over the country?
	She was a stowaway ten times and she was given, they arrested her.
	Never turned around.
	Never turned around.
	They always flew to the location and then they put on another flight back.
	Yeah.
	If she didn't get away with it, which she probably did a lot of times.
	Yeah.
	So no, yeah, this is a bogus story.
	It's clear that our producers have a lot of work to do before Sunday.
	Yeah, they've got to do a lot of stuff.
	I just have one final one.
	I know a good pump and dump when I see one, and I believe it has something to do with options, employees, end of the year, whatever it is, the idea was, and I'm just, look, this is not stock advice.
	It's not stock advice, but I believe this is a pump and dump story.
	Shares of Apple Inc.
	plunged on Tuesday after a report that demand for new iPhones is worse than forecast.
	The Cupertino company's stock dropped more than 2.5% on Tuesday.
	The slide comes after Taiwan's Economic Daily said Apple will slash its outlook for the iPhone X for the first quarter to 30 million units.
	Down from 50 million.
	A U.S.-based analyst is predicting shipments of just 25 million units, warning that consumers are bulking at the product's high price and lack of innovation.
	One analyst I spoke to said, don't get too worried just yet.
	Maybe the situation is actually weak demand for the iPhone 8.
	Most of the parts between the iPhone 10 and iPhone 8 are the same.
	There's just two key parts that are unique to the iPhone 10.
	Those two parts are an OLED screen and a 3D sensing module that It sort of provides augmented reality features and other technology to the iPhone X. And in both of those cases, this analyst hasn't seen any production cuts.
	And to him, that suggests that iPhone X is doing just fine.
	Apple has not publicly disclosed quarterly sales targets for the latest iPhone, which went on sale in November.
	An Apple representative said the company doesn't comment on market rumors.
	On a recent visit to China, CEO Tim Cook said he couldn't be happier with demand for the iPhone X in the country.
	Of course, it's not a pump and dump.
	It's like a reverse version of that.
	And I think that's what's going on.
	This is total bullcrap.
	It's presented everywhere as, oh, iPhone, less sales than expected.
	But the company didn't put out any news themselves.
	It's just an analyst.
	It's sketchy.
	And, you know, you got your quarter coming up and say, well, we sold 60 million.
	There's no way that they're going to be short.
	Certainly not by 20.
	No, it's always better than expected is the operative phrase.
	These guys know how to do that.
	Apple knows how to underestimate.
	Yeah.
	Well, maybe.
	I'm still, the stock's still too high for the long term.
	I have, I got a few left, but we're moving to the next show.
	I do want to, at least there's one, the one is timely.
	I want to catch up with Trump.
	Okay.
	And what's going on with the investigation.
	Here's Chip Reid on CBS kind of giving it to Trump.
	There's a couple moments in here where they kind of like let you make assumptions that aren't true.
	Okay.
	President Trump talked up the new tax cut today as he visited firefighters in West Palm Beach, Florida.
	But based on recent tweets, the Russia investigation is what's really weighing on his mind.
	Chip Reid is traveling with the president.
	I have nothing to do with Russia.
	Everybody knows it.
	That was a Democrat hoax.
	It was an excuse for losing the election.
	President Trump has ripped a nice whipsaw, by the way.
	That's fantastic.
	They have no shame over there.
	I have nothing to do with Russia.
	Everybody knows it.
	That was a Democrat hoax.
	It was an excuse for losing the election.
	President Trump has repeatedly condemned the investigation of his campaign's contacts with Russia.
	In a tweet yesterday, he once again attacked the FBI for its role, calling the agency tainted.
	But even before the investigation began, the U.S. intelligence community concluded that Russia did attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election in President Trump's favor.
	The question for special counsel Robert Mueller is whether the Trump campaign or even the candidate himself worked with or colluded with Russia in that effort.
	Trump's lawyers predict the investigation will wrap up soon, but many legal observers say Mueller appears to be only in round one.
	Two former staffers, including former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, have been indicted, and their trials are months away.
	Two other former staffers, including former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, have pled guilty.
	Flynn admits he lied to the FBI. Yesterday, Flynn's brother tweeted that the president should pardon Flynn.
	Earlier this month, the president didn't rule it out.
	We'll see what happens.
	But immediately afterward, his attorney insisted there is no consideration of pardoning Flynn.
	The White House emphasizes that no one has been charged with or pled guilty to working with Russia to influence the election.
	The question is whether Mueller is trying to squeeze them for information indicated that they or others did.
	Recently, the president's supporters have ratcheted up their attacks on Mueller.
	Some have even gone after his staff, claiming that they are mostly anti-Trump.
	And some others have urged the president to fire Mueller.
	But the president's attorney says there are no plans to do that.
	Elaine?
	Chip Reid.
	Chip, thank you.
	Yeah, what a mess.
	A couple of things.
	I like the way he runs his kind of his examples together.
	He says, Flynn...
	Plead guilty, and the way it's structured is like he pled guilty to what?
	It doesn't say that he pled guilty to lying to the FBI. He says he pled guilty and admits to lying to the FBI, but they never say that the two are connected.
	Right.
	So you watching this, oh, he's been guilty.
	Guilty.
	Guilty of collusion.
	Yeah, that's the first thing you assume.
	It's guilty of collusion.
	Well, CBS, of course, these guys know what they're doing.
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	He also brings in that old bromide that we have to keep debunking on this show, which is the intel community already, he says, already, as though it's in the past, already saw that Russia was trying to rig the elections.
	This is based on that stupid report that came out that was denied at first, and it finally came out because somebody said it had to come out, where you had Homeland Security and the CIA and maybe nobody else.
	All the intelligence agencies agree, whereas it was not true.
	It was really only Clapper who agreed in that report.
	And another one of these bullcrap things that is creeping in, I saw it over the break everywhere, Russia hacked the voting machines.
	Which is patently...
	It's just a false statement.
	I'm sorry for using that.
	How does that come up?
	Where does that even come from?
	It comes from the port scan.
	Port scans on voter databases.
	Yeah, so what does that have to do with rigging a voting machine?
	Nothing, but this is now translated into Russia hacked the voting machines.
	It's insane.
	I'm hearing it everywhere.
	I'll do a collection of people saying this.
	Okay, I want that.
	That'd be great.
	Also, I have a great report for Sunday, a news report, no less, from a news organization that will be out of business eventually.
	Showing the correlation between SSRIs, other big pharmaceutical drugs given to children, and other people who commit mass shootings at school or otherwise.
	It's a great report.
	Oh yeah, they're done.
	Over and out.
	Which is why you need to support the best podcast in the universe with your donations, certainly for our Sunday show, dvorak.org slash NA. Remember us there.
	So that we can discuss these kinds of things without being put out of business.
	Yeah, we have no advertisers to please.
	None.
	We only please you.
	And if you're not pleased, we'll know.
	Whatever you do, don't send blankets or water.
	All right, John, we'll enjoy your Christmas.
	Why, thank you, and you may enjoy the next day or two.
	Yes, as the Dvorak's are always a little bit different than the rest.
	And coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state, I'm in the 5x9 common law condo Cludio.
	I'm FEMA region number 6 on the government maps.
	If you're looking for it, again, remember us.
	For Sunday's show.
	Until then, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I look at and I can see the freeway in the distance, and for some unknown reason, at this hour, it's packed.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	And until then, as always, adios, mofos.
	Putin.
	Ding it, baby.
	Go ahead, baby.
	Ding it, baby.
	Yeah, go ahead, baby.
	Ding it, baby.
	Come on, go ahead, baby.
	Ding it, baby.
	Yeah, do it, baby.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah Yeah.
	I'm going to bing it.
	Yeah!
	You're going to bing it?
	Good.
	Go to bingit.io.
	Bing it?
	Yeah!
	Bing it.
	It's pretty damn useful.
	I've just gotten into the habit of just binging stuff.
	Yeah, bing it.
	Yeah!
	Bing it.
	Bing it.
	What was I binging?
	I forgot what I was binging.
	Bing it, baby.
	No, you were binging.
	Yeah, binging.
	Yeah, yeah, binging.
	You should binging that real quick.
	Let me binging.
	Yeah, binging.
	Just Bing It! Just Bing It! Just Bing It! Just Bing It! Just Bing It!
	Yeah!
	Fail.
	What can an FBI official and FBI agent do to stop a president from getting elected?
	Well, I think he can do what this guy tried to do.
	He can fabricate things.
	He can make up stuff.
	He can lie.
	What can an FBI official and FBI agent do to stop a president from getting elected?
	Well, I think he can do what this guy tried to do.
	He can be a total moron.
	He can recruit others.
	You know, he belongs in the world, this guy, in my personal view.
	He belongs behind bars.
	You know, these things cannot happen in a democracy.
	He belongs behind bars.
	Thank you.
	We belong behind bars I got ants I got ants I don't know if we had ants.
	We had ant invasion.
	I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine grind of black pepper, we were having dinner and I got an ant somehow in the meal and I ate it.
	These things are peppery.
	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	These ants, they don't need a lot.
	And then you just see, you find all the ones that are roaming around you.
	Although I backed them off by doing the burning trick.
	You just torch them.
	And you leave them there.
	The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back.
	I got ants.
	Ants.
	Ants.
	Adios, mofo.

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