This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 or 9 or 2.
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With a skip in my step and a ground loop in my mic.
Broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Texas.
Captain of the Drone Star State in the studio.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm here to declare that the silver Sharpie is the greatest invention of all time.
I'm John C. Devorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
In the morning.
You know, I actually received a silver Sharpie the other day.
Did you now?
Yes!
And I love it!
It's the greatest invention of all time.
It is!
I write on equipment with it.
I do all kinds of stuff with it.
It's particularly good during this era of black plastic.
Precisely.
I've got nothing but black plastic in the studio.
Yeah.
And it's fantastic.
What do you use it for?
Writing on black plastic?
I used to use it for writing on floppy disks, but those days are over.
No, black plastic.
You gotta put some information down on the black plastic.
How do you do it?
You put a sticker on there.
No, just use a silver Sharpie.
Yeah, because I got a new MIDI controller for the new setup.
And it's just a little mini mixer.
And it has buttons next to it, but it's very unclear because it has to correspond to the numbers of the players.
I got eight players.
I got eight faders.
And I was having real problems.
This was the first time we used it.
I had a real problem with it.
And then I got the silver Sharpie, and I put a little 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and perfect!
Yep.
It's dynamite.
Well, now that we have solved that problem, on to the rest of the problems of the world.
By the way, I think a silver Sharpie would be a great gift for anybody to put in a stocking.
Now, that is a good tip.
That's a good Christmas shopping tip right there, everybody.
Yep.
You get them everywhere, too.
They have them at Target.
In fact, since we started on that note, let's do a little Christmas reporting.
Okay, I could do some Christmas reporting for you, too.
I'd love to hear what you got.
Well, I've got two clips.
One on the Christmas shipping report, which would be worth listening to.
Next tonight, hear your money and likely your stress.
It is now Christmas crunch time, but that means prices slashed in many places, and we've got the list tonight.
ABC's Ariel Resch out to help you save your money.
Okay, I think you played the wrong clip.
No, it says Christmas shopping ABC. No, Christmas shipping.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes, you're right.
My mistake.
Huh?
Yeah.
Okay, play that.
That's on CBS. The other clip has it.
I have to say something before you play it.
Okay, I'll play the Christmas shipping.
I'm sorry.
There's a difference between an I and an O. My I's are old.
Estimated deliveries this holiday season will top one billion packages.
Here's Michelle Miller.
Tick the season to be shopping and shipping at Lilac Chocolates in Brooklyn, where more than 20% of their sales will be shipped for the holidays.
Co-owner Anthony Cerrone.
Getting the gifts there on time is super important.
They just can't be late.
So we really rely on the carriers to deliver, you know, when they promise they will.
This year, Christmas lands on a Monday, giving retailers one less day to get gifts delivered on time.
UPS, FedEx, and the U.S. Postal Service are working on overdrive to collectively deliver more than 60 million packages a day, even weekends, a 50% increase over normal volume.
DHL hired 6,000 additional workers to keep up with demand on this year's shipping orders.
They've climbed up 26% over last year.
Jeff Ivory is Vice President of Sales.
Are you seeing any glitches in your delivery system?
One of the challenges we always have is that are people going to actually be home when we go for the delivery side of things.
So certainly we've coped with the volume in terms of putting on more flights and making sure that we have the appropriate amount of seasonal workers for delivery.
It's been non-stop for shipping companies this holiday season.
E-commerce orders have exploded.
Today will only add to that craze as many companies are offering free shipping.
Phoenix Group's chief economist Max Wolf says shipping companies are struggling to keep up with online growth.
The sheer volumes are so high and if you're growing your e-commerce 30-40% year over year, are you growing your trucks and drivers 30% year over year?
The answer is no.
If you have computer problems, I feel bad for you, son.
I got 99 problems, but a glitch ain't one.
Glitch.
How can that still be a serious word used in a serious report about technology?
Well, that report was on CBS, and they don't really know how to monetize these reports as well as ABC does.
Can I just say, I shipped a...
Well, big man.
Tina shipped a package for me from the post office to my buddy in New Jersey.
Just one of those boxes.
What does it cost?
Like...
Yeah, one of those prepaid boxes.
Yeah, prepaid boxes.
And, you know, it was supposed to take three days.
Got there in two days.
I like the post office.
Those boxes are dynamite.
Yeah, you can put all kinds of cool stuff in there.
Yeah, you put whatever.
In fact, when I send one of those boxes, if there's any room left, I shove a magazine or something in there.
Because it's all flat rate.
Just to take advantage of the price.
Yeah, it's a flat rate box.
So, you know, stuff it.
Put an apple in there.
Yeah.
So then there's a lot of reports, which I don't have any clips, of the different kinds of people that are stealing the packages off your porch.
Oh, yes, of course.
And the booby traps people are putting on them, and, you know, mouse traps.
Booby traps?
Small bombs.
Some guy's got some shotgun shells they fire off when they got lifts of the package.
So those are kind of an interesting reports.
But I got the biggest kick out of this clip, which is, this is the Christmas shopping one that you were starting to play.
This is a plug-o-rama.
And I'm totally convinced that ABC went around with one of their sales guys.
Would you like to be in this report?
We'll mention your name.
Next tonight here, your money and likely your stress.
It is now Christmas crunch time, but that means prices slashed in many places.
And we've got the list tonight.
ABC's Ariel Rechef out to help you save your money.
It's almost Christmas, Dad!
Tonight, retailers rolling out last-minute deals to nab your holiday dollar.
Yeah, I'm still finding good deals.
More than a third of shoppers doing the bulk of their gift buying this week before Christmas.
And some major perks for procrastinators.
We've had 50% off really good stores.
I mean, everything at this point of the year is always like 50, 40.
These popular Beats headphones, originally $380 at Best Buy, now $160.
Experts say it's also a great time to buy bling.
These designer Movado watches, more than $500 off.
For clothing, deep discounts, up to 70% off men's outerwear at Macy's.
Flash sales popping up.
At Banana Republic, 50% off everything.
And savings on stocking stuffers.
Family said gifts.
Like the gift sections because it's really easy to pick for family members.
Prices on gift cards slashed on sites like Cardpool and Gift Card Granny.
Ariel with us live tonight.
And Ariel, because Christmas falls on a Monday this year, some of the biggest shopping days will be this weekend.
That's right, David.
The Saturday before Christmas is expected to be the second busiest shopping day of the entire year with deals up until the holiday.
The key experts say is knowing what you're looking for before you last minute shop.
That's pretty brazen.
No kidding.
Gift card granny?
Are you kidding me?
You know what I think?
I don't know if they charge for it separately.
It's more likely they said, we're doing a bonus for you this year.
That's how I would have positioned it.
You could do that.
It's still commercial.
It's still a native ad, absolutely.
I think I just would have done that.
And if they were being honest and giving us real reports, they'd tell you not to buy gift cards, not to buy more gift cards.
Why?
What's wrong with gift cards?
Oh, everybody knows.
Well, because people lose them.
It's just a waste of money.
Or you give them to somebody and it gets put away somewhere and it never gets used.
I mean, it's just a scam.
It's designed to be not implemented.
It's designed to be lost.
Well, I'm glad you got those shopping reports.
I have two different reports.
This you may have heard about.
Newest Christmas controversy has social justice warriors claiming this classic holiday carol is racist.
Yeah!
Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way.
So here's the story.
A theater history professor telling Boston.com that Jingle Bells was originally performed to make fun of African Americans.
That professor saying, quote, Is this true?
Not that I know of, but it's a great story.
I mean, I think it's a hoax.
We'll look into it.
We'll look into it.
We have to be careful because if this story is breaking now, somebody could have rigged Short-term rigged.
This is a problem with Wikipedia, obviously.
Somebody could have rigged the entry.
Let's look it up.
What's the name?
Jingle Bells?
Yeah, Jingle Bells.
What's it got to do with anything that has anything to do with slavery or blacks?
A Boston University theater professor claims the Christmas Carol has a problematic history because it was originally performed to make fun of African Americans.
In what way?
Let me see.
The legacy of Jingle Bells is one where its blackface and racist origins have been subtly and systematically removed from its history, says Kiana Hamill, Boston University theater historian, as she wrote a whole research paper about it.
Although one horse opens sleigh...
Let me see.
I don't know, man.
It's a stretch, I think.
Just a tad bit of a stretch.
It was first performed on Washington Street in Boston in 1857.
Some area choirs adopted it as part of their repertoire in the 1860s and 70s.
It was featured in a variety of parlor song and college anthologies in the 1880s.
It was first recorded in 1889 on an Edison cylinder.
It says it's an unsettled question whether and when Pure Point originally composed the song that would become known as Jingle Bells.
It's a plaque in 1990.
Like some guy in high school or something?
No, there's no way.
It's bull crap.
Well, she got her name in the paper.
Good for her.
But my favorite is this transition or transformation of history.
There's a new book out just in time for Christmas.
Coming in.
This is new.
Daniel, first to you.
What inspired Santa's Husband?
Well, it was sort of inspired by the annual tradition we have in this country of...
Santa's Husband.
Stay tuned.
You'll like it.
Okay, you're beating me up on these clips.
I've got lots of time on my hands.
I'm inspired by the annual tradition we have in this country of pretending that there's a giant war on Christmas and that traditional Christmas is under attack.
So, among other things, we were reading all of the news about the Mall of America hiring a black Santa Claus last year.
And me and my now wife made a joke on Twitter that if we ever had a child, they would only know about black Santa Claus.
And if they saw a white Santa Claus at the mall, we would just explain, well, that's his husband.
And then Ashley and I knew each other from the Internet and from her illustration already, and she jumped into my Twitter mentions and said, boom, new book.
Boom, cut one.
Yeah, and it's out now.
Available everywhere, actually.
So let me read a couple of pages here.
It says, like any married couple, they have their disagreements, but they always manage to kiss and make up, usually over a plate of milk and cookies.
So we have the gay Santa Claus.
Santa is black, he's gay, and he has a husband, a white husband.
A white guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's kind of misogynist.
Apparently dresses much the same.
Mrs.
Claus has been wiped from history all of a sudden.
It's an outrage.
That is an outrage.
I'm surprised people put up with this.
Everyone thinks it's great.
That's great.
Hell with her.
I know.
It's bad.
You're borderline on Clip of the Day there, but unfortunately, because you just took my clips and made them look like junk.
Well, I get a borderline.
I'm taking a borderline.
Borderline.
Clip of the Day.
Yes.
Sorry.
They made a big deal about these fake fingerlings.
I didn't even know.
Every year they have, supposedly, they have to have some thematic gift that is hard to get.
Oh, what is it this year?
This year's the Fingerling.
Fingerling.
It's a little bitty monkey that you put on your finger and its head goes back and forth and it goes eek, eek, eek, eek, eek.
Ah.
Here's a report.
I do have a report.
It's called Fingerling.
Oh, you're waiting for a clip?
I thought you were going to read a report.
I'm sitting here like, well, could you hurry up and read the report already?
I'm sorry.
If you have kids, you know that every year there's a popular, hard-to-find holiday toy that you have to stand in line for.
Cabbage Patch Kids.
Transformers.
I'm trying to think of them right now.
Those hamsters.
This year, the It toy has been sold out for weeks, which has opened the door for fraud.
We see that every year.
Consumer investigator Chris Kamura joins us now.
Tell us about these, what do you call them?
Fingerling.
Fingerling.
Yes.
Fake.
Fingerlings, I think we've hit a sore spot here, haven't we?
All right, we were tipped off these knockoffs by one of our eagle-eyed response producers.
We did a little digging around and found the forgery is rampant.
It could also put your child's safety at risk.
One of our response producers bought Fingerlings on Walmart.com, and this is what she got.
It looks like the real thing, and the packaging is nearly identical.
It's not until you compare it to authentic Fingerlings that you see the major difference.
The name Fingerlings is missing on the packaging.
A keen eye might catch other clues that this Fingerling is bogus.
Check out how Batteries is misspelled.
An NBC viewer in New Jersey had a similar experience.
She bought two fingerlings on Walmart.com.
The second one that I received came in not as a fingerling, but as a happy monkey.
Not the color, not looking like it, not the brand, nothing like that.
As it turns out, the maker of Fingerlings is suing more than 150 companies for knocking off its blockbuster toy.
Consumers who've been duped into buying a fake need to know there are potential safety concerns for kids.
Counterfeit toys bypass federal safety inspections.
The two concerns with counterfeit products are that, one, they could pose a choking hazard, particularly if there are small parts.
The second concern would be that there are unhealthy toxics that are in the product.
We haven't heard about any safety issues with these knockoffs.
Though we wondered how did Walmart end up with the fakes?
The company confirmed it wasn't selling them.
Instead, they were sold by a third party on its website.
After the response team reached out to Walmart, it booted those sellers from its site, saying it has zero tolerance for people selling fake goods.
It also issued a full refund.
Now, this seems like a story planted by Amazon.
Yeah, likely.
But Amazon is like a real bad actor when it comes to selling dubious things from other third parties.
Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, I've seen a bunch of things go through that just like, I mean, they'll take it back with pretty much no questions asked or, you know, no real problem.
But Walmart, you know, is new to this.
And I think they just got burned.
You know, speaking of Amazon, I needed a printer, and I got rid of everything.
I never need a printer anymore.
Now I needed a printer all of a sudden.
Why?
I needed a printer to print out some documents.
Which I'm not going to go into.
I needed a printer.
You mean you've been getting by without a printer?
Yeah.
If I need to print something, I can actually email it to the front desk here and they print it out.
Because they had printers.
This building had computers and printers, but people steal it.
So the printer was gone.
People steal HDMI cables.
People are a-holes.
They steal.
Oh, yeah.
So I needed a printer.
And I just needed a simple printer, just print out some stuff.
I see an Amazon printer, a Canon, $39.
I'm like, perfect.
Because, of course, they're only selling the ink.
I presume that's why it's so cheap.
And I needed it quick.
And I said, you know, if you order today, that was last Friday, it'll be there tomorrow, Saturday.
I'm like, okay, click.
And it didn't arrive Saturday.
So I say, damn it, Amazon.
I wrote the, you know, I did a feedback.
And they took off $20.
I got the printer for $19.
I'll bet you that's a gem of a printer.
It works fine.
It's a cloud printer.
It's great.
It's a cloud printer?
Yeah, Google Cloud Print.
Oh, God.
Yeah, that's what I said while trying to set it up.
Which I have not yet succeeded in one week later.
Yeah, it's bad.
I've never even heard of such a thing, to be honest about it.
But Amazon will give you a refund if they mess it up.
If you're a Prime member, they will send you a refund.
Oh yeah, if you're a Prime member, you can probably, if you played your cards right and bought a lot of stuff, get your entire Prime membership refunded with these kinds of complaints.
And this is the time to do it, because there's no way they're going to make things arrive on time.
It's not possible.
Anyway...
So that's, I think, our Christmas report.
I was more about the shopping.
Merry Christmas, everybody.
You were kind of about the scams and screwiness, screwball, justice warrior crap.
Yeah, Merry Christmas, everybody.
We won't be doing a show, we should mention this.
Yes, on Christmas...
We're doing a show.
Yeah, and it's fresh.
It's a new show.
It's fresh.
Fresh new content from the people who bring you the No Agenda show.
Yeah, it's an interview I did with Steve Pchenik.
Yeah.
And I think you'll like it.
I never hear this guy just talk without being interrupted.
Because you're hearing him on Alex Jones where they've got to interrupt him to sell pills.
Yeah, exactly.
I feel the same way about all interviews where you see a good interview.
We've talked about this on our episodes. - Yes. - Where people are getting going and say, "You know, hey, that reminds me of something." And then they get cut off 'cause they gotta go to a break and then they kinda forget about what they're talking about.
It loses the-- It loses all the moment.
What I found...
Well, what I did during this interview...
I just kind of started, and I got him to talk, and he loves talking.
He loves talking.
He seems to be a chatterbox, yes.
But every time he would mention something, I'd just be looking it up on Wikipedia, and he would have the names right, the dates right, and everything.
I was like, how do you do that?
You might just have an eidetic memory.
It's possible.
Well, after this interview, again, you will be, is he the real deal?
Is he?
What is he?
It's still a mystery.
What is he?
And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
That's right.
Hashtag me too.
So let's see.
What do we have?
The latest, which I found interesting, was Linda Sarsour, accused of enabling sexual assault and harassment in the workplace.
She is the co-founder of the Women's March.
You know her.
She's...
She's that horrible woman.
Yes.
You were going to say horrible Muslim woman, I know, but that was just a descriptor.
No, I was just going to say horrible woman.
Yeah, she's nasty.
And, you know, she won't talk of any...
I don't know if she's had any...
Has she denied this anywhere?
I haven't really seen...
I don't care.
Oh, okay.
I don't care because I think she's just a creep.
And we're still waiting for the...
Somewhere between 15 and 20 lawmakers of both parties in Congress or on Capitol Hill to be outed.
That hasn't happened yet.
The fact that it hasn't happened already is indicating to me that it might not happen at all because there's no reason for it now that Judge Moore didn't get elected.
I think that it's going to make everything calm down.
But I do have one clip myself for this segment because it was actually mentioned in the newsletter about how they're trying to, you know, Ah, they're going after Meryl Streep with She Knew.
Hashtag Me Too.
Hashtag She Knew.
Yeah.
Who cares whether she knew or not at this point?
This is an old story.
Weinstein's done.
And why, I don't know why we're, is this the titillation maybe, or just to see this cat fight between Rose McGowan and Nero Street?
Well, I think what's going on, it's awards season, and we have the Golden Globes coming up, which is where she famously lauded Harvey Weinstein up.
I think they're talking about women should all dress in black for the awards season.
All covered in this clip.
This is good.
We turn next here tonight to new fallout from the allegations of sexual abuse against Harvey Weinstein, actress Rose McGowan, who claims Weinstein raped her, taking aim now at Meryl Streep.
McGowan tweeting that Streep's silence is the problem.
Weinstein's lawyer says that any allegations of non-consensual sex are unequivocally denied by Mr.
Weinstein.
But tonight, ABC's Lindsay Davis now with Meryl Streep's response.
The most nominated actor in Oscar history in a different role tonight.
Meryl Streep defending herself against accusations she turned a blind eye to Harvey Weinstein's abusive behavior.
I just want to thank my agent, Kevin Uvain, and God, Harvey Weinstein.
Uh-huh.
After Weinstein's fall, Streep said she was appalled, adding, not everybody knew.
Recently telling Vogue's Anna Wintour she hasn't stopped thinking about it.
What do you sit around talking about in the dining room table?
Three daughters.
Harvey Weinstein.
That's all we talk about.
I mean, you know, it's like...
But when Streep announced she would join an army of actresses wearing black this awards season as a silent protest, it infuriated actress Rose McGowan, who claims Weinstein raped her.
And that cannot stand, and it will not stand.
McGowan tweeting...
Wait a minute.
That sounded a lot like a whipsaw to me.
It was, totally.
Total whipsaw.
Just throw in a clip.
Throw in a clip.
It infuriated actress Rose McGowan, who claims Weinstein raped her.
And that cannot stand, and it will not stand.
McGowan tweeting, actresses like Meryl Streep, who happily worked for the pig monster, are wearing black in a silent protest.
Your silence is the problem.
McGowan adding, maybe you should all wear Marquesa.
The fashion line designed by Weinstein's estranged wife.
Now in a lengthy statement, Streep is responding, writing, It hurt to be attacked by Rose McGowan.
I wasn't deliberately silent.
I didn't know.
I don't tacitly approve of rape.
I didn't know.
I don't like young women being assaulted.
I didn't know this was happening.
So far, no direct response from McAllen, though she did delete her tweet and apologize for the dig about actresses wearing awards dresses designed by Weinstein's wife.
The Marquesa line was beneath me, she wrote, and I'm sorry for that.
And tonight, Meryl Streep says she has reached out to Rose McGowan.
Streep says that she has made sure that McGowan has her phone number.
She says that she is waiting for her call.
In the meantime, Harvey Weinstein, as you know, has denied unequivocally any non-consensual sexual activity.
All right, Lindsay Davis back on this tonight.
Yes, fantastic.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, great.
I think you were right that this kind of ends.
You know, we had the Roy Moore, Judge Roy Moore thing that's over and it's just kind of off.
You know, we're done.
They've got to accomplish what they wanted to accomplish.
Well, not entirely, as we still have to un-resign Al Franken.
This is now in play.
We've got to un-resign him because it was not fair.
I guess what happened was, all right, you're going to fall on your sword, you're going to resign, and then that will force Trump to resign.
I think that actually was the strategy here.
No, I don't think so.
To the morons?
Yes, it was.
That's all they've been saying.
I think it was specifically aimed at if Roy Moore got in, they could hound him and use him as a whipping boy because Franken quit.
Okay, all right.
Well, I'll take that just as good.
And now, of course, we have to undo that.
This is Democratic Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia on the Politico podcast.
I think the Roy Moore thing sends a loud, clear message.
There you go.
What he did to Al Franklin.
Franklin.
Franklin.
I love it.
My bestest buddy, Al Franklin.
Yeah.
He's atrocious.
He's atrocious.
The Democrats, the most hypocritical thing I've ever seen done to a human being, and then have enough guts to sit on the floor and watch him give his speech and go over and hug him?
That's hypocrisy at the highest level I've ever seen in my life.
Made me sick.
And here's a man that all he said, take me through the ethics committee.
I will live by whatever decision, and I'll walk away thanking this opportunity I've had while I was here.
But you find out, if you think I'm a predator, you find out of my actions.
You find out the people I've worked with all my life.
I was in that type of an arena, you know.
Al says, listen, I've got a lot of flaws.
This is not one of them.
Give Al a chance to prove it.
And I think it's atrocious.
We ran a good person off.
Al and I didn't vote a lot.
Yeah, you guys did not get along on a lot of things politically.
Politically, we were separate, okay?
But you need people from, you need to have all spectrums of this.
He hasn't resigned yet.
I hope they have enough guts, if they had enough guts, enough conscience, and enough heart to say, Al, we made a mistake asking prematurely for you to leave.
Least go through now.
Al, would you subject yourself to a rigorous ethics examination, an ethics investigation, and live by whatever comes out, and then we'll put the vote on you, Al.
That's what they should do.
That's the human and decent thing to do.
If they have any decency in them, they do that.
Every one of them that's signed for him to go out, including Chuck Schumer, would do that.
We shall see.
Well, a couple of things.
First of all, we know from other reports that the Senate House Senate Ethics Committee has never found anybody guilty of anything if it was unless it was done during their tenure in office.
So anything that happened before or when they were kids or just before they got elected, that's always put aside.
So there's no way he's not going to breeze through an ethics committee thing.
And we know that in advance.
So this is bull crap.
Now, the thing is, I like to know how he's going to deal with his co-senator, Amy Klobuchar, who demanded he quit.
I think that's kind of interesting.
But if he doesn't quit, I think he's going to be a target.
He said he was going to quit.
Right, right.
Why didn't he quit?
Well, you know, we'll see.
We live in crazy times.
And that picture of him grabbing the breasts of that DJ or whoever she was, that's just going to be fodder for every election and it's going to be used by everybody.
I'll use it.
I already did actually once with somebody who came up with this.
I just posted that picture.
It's just too funny of a comeback not to do.
Even though I said from the beginning he should have never resigned or said he was going to resign, he should have quit the party.
Well, the hashtag MeToo campaign is just running rampant throughout the entire universe, including the United Kingdoms.
Another blow for Theresa May as she attempts to navigate Brexit's treacherous waters.
Leaving the EU on the 29th of March.
By the way, it's not exactly the same as Me Too, but... ...was her senior minister, Damien Green, to resign late Wednesday.
An internal investigation found he'd made misleading statements about pornography found on computers at his office.
It was a reluctant loss.
Green's one of May's most trusted allies and a key advocate of a soft Brexit, who voted to remain in the European Union.
Green was appointed First Secretary of State, May's de facto deputy, in the wake of the disastrous snap election in June that stripped May's Conservatives of their majority.
His job partly to pacify a party deeply divided by Brexit.
To make matters worse, he's the third minister to quit in the past two months.
For Green, it all began in November when an academic said he sexually harassed her two years ago, which he denies.
The investigation said it couldn't conclude either way, but deemed her account plausible.
Also in November it was reported that the police had found pornography on a computer in Green's parliamentary office in 2008.
Green said that was untrue and later denied that police had told him they'd discovered such images.
Both of those statements turned out to be inaccurate.
May's wounded government is expected to limp on though.
There's little appetite for a leadership contest with Brexit looming.
There you go.
This all stems from that idiotic snap election she called for.
I still don't know why she did that.
That's so odd.
Nobody knows why she did it.
She thought she could just take over the world.
Everyone's going to love her so much.
I mean, this is the kind of, and you see this in our Congress, too, a kind of, you know, with Trump.
It's kind of like lost on, you know, what the public is thinking.
It's lost on them.
In fact, there's a good report I've got here.
They don't talk to the public, John.
They go out in public, they're literally cordoned off.
The press are on one side, the public is somewhere.
The press doesn't talk to the public unless they're going to do man on the street and chop it up to whatever they want it to be.
Well, I'm not just saying the press, I'm saying the politicians and the press.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, at this point, the press is a lost cause.
And something that is not discussed, but showed up in an article, some research from UCLA's Health and Human Rights Law Project, Came up with a statistic.
In incidents of sexual violence reported to the National Crime Victimization Survey, how many percent do you think of victims were men?
Uh, 40?
Wow!
38!
38 percent.
And the majority of that is forced penetration, not on them, but of women.
What?
Yeah.
So women forcing men to penetrate them.
Really?
Yeah.
Doesn't seem like anything that would be arousing.
Look, I'm just telling you what the paper says.
Somebody puts a gun to your head and says, you gotta screw me.
Yeah.
It's not like a turn-on.
I think this probably, a lot of this is young men and older women.
A lot of this happening in academia.
It's a really interesting paper.
I'll put it in the show notes.
992.noagendanotes.com There's a lot of data on prisons, interestingly enough.
Let me tell you this.
You don't want to go to prison.
No.
This is not where you want to be at all.
This is not good.
So you'd think that, in fact, you'd think there'd be some The kind of rape in prisons phenomenon, which is not...
It's actually shameful that the government has set things up so this is a common occurrence.
This should be illegal.
And the worst is women's prison.
That's the worst.
Yeah, this should be illegal.
And it's not the male staff.
It's other female inmates raping other women.
Yeah, the bull dykes.
I don't know if it's the bull dykes.
I bet you there's a few.
Let me see if we have anything else on this.
Oh, yes.
I think it is important that the Department of Education...
We scrapped a key part of government policy.
This is something the Obama administration set up regarding sexual harassment, sexual assault on campuses.
Now this was...
We discussed this on the show a long time ago.
I don't remember exactly what...
It might fall under Title 10 or 9 or something.
I can't remember what it falls under.
The guidelines demanded colleges use the lowest standard of proof We had some great clips on this where people were talking about, you know, there's no balance between accusers and the accused.
The accusers, if it's a woman in particular, whatever she says goes and this guy's out.
Yes, the preponderance of the evidence.
So the lowest standard of proof, preponderance of the evidence.
What does that mean, preponderance of the evidence?
I think it means the amount.
Can I look that up?
No.
Yeah, why don't you look it up?
Look up the word preponderance in the book.
Okay, well, you could have done that while I was reading the rest.
Yeah, I was relaxed.
Okay, here we go.
Preponderance.
The quality or fact of being greater in number, quantity, or importance.
So what do they mean by that, then?
If one complaint is enough.
Jeez.
Okay, so the preponderance of evidence in deciding whether a student is responsible for sexual assault, a verdict that can lead to discipline and expulsion.
But the Department of Education said colleges were free to abandon that standard and raise it to a higher standard known as clear and convincing evidence, which I also think is...
Yeah, it's probably still bogus.
I think in one of our clips somebody pointed out that if this was going on, this is a crime.
This has nothing to do with the college.
They should be ousting anybody.
They should call the police.
Well, they have campus police and stuff.
Well, not all schools.
Not all schools have campus police.
So I do think that's good on one hand, but it doesn't, you know, I don't know.
It doesn't solve the problem necessarily.
It does not.
And we still haven't been accused of anything.
This is good.
Well, we're accused of being podcasters.
And this concludes your sexual harassment update.
Yes.
Indeed it does.
Well, I got one more sexual harassment thing.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Well, it's not really sexual harassment.
It's more of a news story.
But this is the USA Gymnastics update.
I mean, the guy's in jail now, and now everyone's coming out of the woodwork to sue them.
It's just, I don't know if this is good or bad, but play the USA Gymnastics report.
Olympic medalist Michaela Maroney is suing USA Gymnastics.
She says the organization tried to cover up her allegations of sexual abuse against former team Dr.
Larry Nassar.
In a settlement nearly a year ago, Maroney received $1.25 million and signed a non-disclosure agreement.
Dr.
John LaPook has more on this.
Michaela Maroney's lawyer is accusing USA Gymnastics of covering up her sexual abuse by having her sign a non-disclosure agreement.
Maroney first revealed the abuse in a Twitter post two months ago, writing that Nassar's abuse started when I was 13 years old and didn't end until I left the sport.
John Manley represents more than 100 girls and young women, including Maroney, alleging sexual abuse by Larry Nassar.
Of course it's a cover-up.
I mean, if you're not trying to cover it up, why are you asking her to be quiet?
Manley says USA Gymnastics took advantage of Maroney's fragile psychological state.
They wanted to keep their dirty laundry quiet, and they were willing to sacrifice Michaela's health and well-being and voice to do that.
And that's just wrong.
At the 2012 London Olympics, Maroney was part of the powerhouse American women's gymnastics team known as the Fierce Five.
Just last month, her former teammate, Olympic gold medalist Allie Raisman, told 60 Minutes about her abuse at the hands of Nassar.
What did USA Gymnastics do and Larry Nassar do to manipulate these girls so much that they are so afraid to speak up?
Late today, USA Gymnastics put out a statement saying that both sides had agreed to the settlement and confidentiality deal and that they were initiated by Maroney's attorney, not by USA Gymnastics.
Jeff?
Hmm.
Who was her lawyer?
I don't know.
They had the guy on there, but I don't think they mentioned his name.
By the way, keeping dirty laundry quiet is kind of a mixed metaphor that doesn't work.
Now, here's the thing about this story, which is continuing, and I don't know what Maroney's up to.
If she got over a million dollars, you'd think that would be enough.
And if it was their idea, and then she signed off on it.
So that's kind of sketchy.
The troll room is saying it was Gloria Aldridge, of course.
Well, they had him, one of her attorneys on it was a male.
He could have been an associate.
Now, here's what, I hate to say this, but I'd like to know what this guy did.
Nobody has discussed it.
Hmm.
Was he fondling them and asking, how does this feel?
Or was he...
How does this feel?
Does this feel good?
Yeah.
Does this feel good?
Because you're going to be alive.
Or was he...
I mean, was he deflowering them so they could do better flips?
I'm just asking.
Oh, John.
I would like to know some details here because as far as I know, the guy didn't do anything unless we have some details.
Right.
Right.
I mean, just any details.
Any details.
All it was was that he abused them.
Abused.
He could have punched them in the face.
That's kind of abusing him, too.
Well, I will look into it for you.
See if I can find out what's going on.
Okay.
You look into it for me.
Let me know.
I'll let you know.
So even though it's a great time to come out and air your dirty laundry, that would be the correct way of using the metaphor, did you hear about the CEO of ESPN, John Skipper?
Probably.
He resigned.
Yeah, I know.
Because of substance abuse.
Ah, that's right.
That's what it was.
Yeah, coke, probably.
Yeah, you look at the guy, he's like, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Man.
How about that, huh?
I just find it hard.
That probably explains a lot.
Because ESPN has had nothing but trouble with its ratings.
They've been dropping and dropping and dropping.
In my course, I'm always saying it's because nobody's interested in English club soccer, which they're playing way too much of on ESPN. I don't care whether Manchester City or Manchester United wins a game against Chelsea.
I don't really care.
No.
And I don't think American viewers care.
I mean, yeah, a few Brits care and maybe some...
I like watching soccer.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah.
What's the last game you watched?
What was the score?
1-0.
They're all 1-0.
Yes.
It's always 1-0.
Or we do shootouts.
And then the other thing is...
And they're pushing women's basketball to an extreme.
And so women's basketball, club soccer...
You know my theory.
I'd like to see sumo.
Sumo is fascinating.
Sumo is good.
What I would like to see more of is women's field hockey.
You know I'm a big fan.
Big fan of the women's field hockey.
I love the little outfits.
That probably wouldn't be a bad idea.
Or women's...
It's a ratings...
I'm telling you, yes.
It's a ratings bonanza.
The Brazilian leagues are the best.
Ratings bonanza, I tell you.
Why they don't listen to me?
They don't.
So ESPN has had issues.
Anyway.
Anything else in this regard?
No, nothing.
Well, I do have a couple of Christmas clips I want to play along the way.
And, you know, we should probably find it.
Let me find the credits for these, because I don't know what the legalities of playing, if these are ASCAP or not.
I know they're public domain songs.
white Christmas by goats oh brother oh Hey, our goat!
Yeah, it's our goat.
Okay.
Okay.
Help!
Help!
Yeah, that goat's in there.
Very nice.
Now, this guy claims to have this Christmas by Goats, some goat.
You can find this album out there.
Well, that's obviously a sampler.
He's just playing samples.
No.
Oh, yeah.
He says no to that.
He pulls the goat's tail.
I don't have the cat one, which is all samplers.
It's just a cat sampled on a keyboard, and you can get the cat to sing anything you want it to.
Right, right, right.
But no, these goats, he claims that these are individual goats that were used.
That's why he had our goat in there.
He found all these goat sounds, and then he made...
He determined what note they were singing and then he put it together that way.
He didn't do it as like on a keyboard with a sampler.
It was like I think an edit job.
Now with that in mind The dog ones, which I've always preferred to the cat ones.
I think you've played this before.
Well, I don't know if we've played this one.
This was I Wish You a Merry Christmas.
But before we played, this is dogs, and this, I think, is the most creative.
I think this guy knows how to arrange.
He should be on Broadway.
Because he's got dogs growling, and he's got dogs repeatedly barking annoyingly like dogs do.
And I think this is like a real...
a fantastic dynamite composition, except for the fact that he uses too much music and not enough dogs.
You're so easily entertained, John.
Do that?
Okay, you can kill it.
But the point is that people should listen to The Dog Christmas because it's very, I think it's unique in the way he uses growls and other things to kind of add dimensionality to an otherwise silly idea.
I'm so happy you brought that to the show.
That really makes all the difference.
I think so.
How about a little Bitcoin update?
Okay.
Yeah.
No, this is important.
If you invested in this great store of value, around, let's say, $19,000, you thought, time to jump in.
Right now, it's $15,617 per Bitcoin.
So you lost effectively about 23% of your investment.
How are you feeling right before the holidays?
I didn't invest anything, but I think now's the time to buy.
I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking to people who jumped on this bandwagon, and congratulations, everybody.
The big boys are now in.
Now you see what happens.
Oh, yeah.
You're going to get screwed over.
You're going to get screwed, and then you listen to CNBC. These people are idiots.
And they can't stop talking about it.
And it's not just Bitcoin.
It's crypto this and crypto that the biggest offender being Kramer.
Enthusiasm that we know is occurring in the crypto world.
I'm not denying the crypto world.
I am supporting the crypto world.
I think that crypto is great.
But I also think that we have to be a little more careful.
It's a weird name, too.
I mean, the Crypt Keeper, that's where, like, a bunch of dead people are, right, Jim?
I mean, they don't mean investors, though, right?
This is going to work.
It's different things.
It's cryptic, not a crypt, right?
Right.
When you see that level of enthusiasm, what that says is there are true believers, and you can't talk a true believer out of it.
And I always say, look, as long as you know the risk, be my guest.
I never, ever mind anyone trying to make money.
A lot of people come on these shows and say they've missed it.
I am not one of those.
I am saying as long as you know the risk, it's fine.
But you have to understand the risk.
All right, Tim, we will see you at the top of the hour as we have to break it.
Idiots!
That's shameful, what you just played.
Oh, yeah.
It is shamefully insane.
And by the way, I'm sure that the root of crypt, meaning like a kind of a crypt where the dead are, and crypt, though, it has the same root.
It's like a lock.
It's like a lock.
Lock, yes.
So, of course, a lot of people, based on our broadcast here, have been sending me hate notes and saying, you're an idiot.
Listen to this guy.
He knows what he's talking about.
This is great.
So, meanwhile, we're down from $20,000 to $15,000.
And, ah, there's an explanation for it.
Oh, there's always an explanation.
You ready?
It's the S-curve of adoption.
Oh, that means it's going to skyrocket.
So it went up, and now it goes curly Q, and then it's going to go up again.
It's the S-curve of adoption.
Oh, people.
How about those poor saps who mortgaged their home to jump in?
Because you know they jumped in at 17, 18, 19.
Like, to the moon!
I would assume that a lot of people...
Somebody bought it at 18 because it went to 19.
Yeah, and they stayed in because it's going to the moon!
Most people would have stayed in.
It's going to come back.
It'll come back to 19.
Maybe.
When it crashes, it's going to go down to nothing.
That's what...
And then it'll never return, recover.
Or somebody will crack the crypto.
Oh, imagine that if it's possible.
And you know guys are working on it.
Well, hold on.
NSA has invented the hash that's used for Bitcoin.
So they have it.
I think it's hacked.
It's cracked.
They know how to do it.
I think they're using the 256 whatever hash thing.
Yeah, this is where I get into trouble.
Yeah, you should stop while you're ahead.
And then Coinbase, which is seen by many as the number one exchange, they halted trading of Bitcoin Cash due to possible insider trading.
Now I ask you.
What does that mean?
I ask you.
Satoshi was the guy that was trading?
Insider trading means you got a tip and you bought before the news came out.
What kind of news?
In a nutshell, that's what insider trading refers to.
What kind of news was there?
And I actually heard...
I've got to get this clip for you.
This guy said, people just don't understand when they don't understand Bitcoins because they don't understand the fundamentals.
I'm like...
Fundamentals of Bitcoin.
Okay.
I just feel sorry for people who do.
It's kids with their skateboard money, you know?
Weed money.
Here's a tip from Uncle Adam.
Keep your skateboard.
Smoke the weed.
Don't buy the Bitcoin.
It's not going to turn out...
Well, when it is $25,000, you're going to get more hate mail.
Sure.
And then when it hits 50,000, you're going to get even more hate mail.
But the problem is that people do not have the psychological discipline to sell.
They will hold, and they will hold, and they will hold, and then they're screwed.
That's the way it works, and that's the way it's supposed to work.
And they certainly don't have the discipline to sell when they're losing.
Do you want to make money trading?
When you're losing, you've got to cut it.
You've got to cut your loss.
People are like, oh, it could come back.
It could bounce back.
It's sad.
That's the mentality.
Like I said before, anyone who's stupid enough to take a money-making investment, real estate, that always goes up, It flops down once a while, but it doesn't.
The real look at a chart and see what the prices are.
It's a limited, you know, there's only so much of it.
It's useful.
You can build on it.
And you can sell it to somebody else very easily.
And there's systems in place like title companies to make sure you don't get screwed.
There's all kinds of title insurance and all these things.
There's nothing like that for Bitcoin.
It's just a wild west.
And I will say, I love blockchain.
I love what it possibly can do.
Yeah, but there's all kinds of peer-to-peer.
I mean, we have the...
What was that?
I even tried to use that for a while to distribute our show.
What's it called?
The spit-torn thing?
Yeah, it's...
Damn it.
There's a whole bunch of them.
But there's hash space.
You know, hash space is out there, and that's how peer-to-peer, in essence, works.
And you don't need a centralized system.
And that, of course, is where we need to go.
If we're going to rely on the face bag and Twitter for our communications, Twitter, by the way, with new rules.
What's their new rules?
Let me see.
I have the rules here.
The Twitter.
So they have new policies on violence, abuse, and hateful conduct.
And they'll, well, first of all, they will unverify you, for sure.
Oh, no!
Yeah.
Let's see.
Content boundaries and use of Twitter.
Okay, graphic violence, unlawful, let me see.
Oh, misuse of, abusive behavior.
Here we go.
We believe in freedom of expression and open dialogue, but that means little as an underlying philosophy is voices are silenced because people are afraid to speak up.
Stop right there.
How does that even make sense?
If I'm on Twitter and I want to tweet something, but someone else says, you're a dick!
And all of a sudden this is bad?
Now I'm afraid to tweet?
I don't understand.
Really, I'm trying to understand what that sentence means.
We believe in freedom of expression and open dialogue, but that means little as an underlying philosophy as voices are silenced because people are afraid to speak up.
You can be on Twitter anonymous.
You can do all kinds of ways.
In order to ensure that people feel safe expressing diverse opinions and beliefs, we prohibit behavior that crosses the line into abuse, including behavior that harasses, intimidates, or uses fear to silence another user's voice.
Okay.
You don't have a voice on Twitter?
You type.
We don't hear you.
You're not talking.
You got 280 characters to do it.
And I don't understand how fear and intimidation on Twitter silences someone's voice.
However they continue, context matters when evaluating for abusive behavior and determining appropriate enforcement actions.
Factors we may take into consideration include but are not limited to weather, colon, The behavior is targeted at an individual or group of people.
The report has been filed by the target of the abuse or by a bystander.
The behavior is newsworthy and in the legitimate public interest.
That's an interesting one.
So you may be able to silence voices if your behavior in doing so is newsworthy.
Oh!
That would mean Trump!
I get it!
Of course!
So Trump can't get kicked off Because his behavior is newsworthy.
By definition, everything he says is newsworthy.
Fantastic.
That's why they put it in.
So when people say, hey man, why don't you kick the president off at POTUS? They just slipped that one in.
I didn't even realize it.
That could apply to a lot of people.
Yes.
I'd say people like Rob Reiner, who's just a horrible tweeter.
Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
Yeah, same thing.
It's kind of newsworthy.
And let's see.
What else do we have?
No, that was the main thing about Twitter.
It's good to know.
Now, do you want to do the...
Because I see you have some tax bill stuff.
Do you want to do that now?
Or would you like to take a break?
All right.
Well, let's see.
It's about everyone getting more money.
We can take the break first, and then we can talk about that afterwards, I guess.
Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John, see what the C stands for.
Can't take a break.
Dvorak!
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships at sea.
Boots on the ground.
Feet in the air.
Subs in the water.
All the dames and knights out there.
And I would like to point out that we have often spoken about the feets in the air, boots on the ground, and feets in the water.
And there was a 13th foot discovered recently.
A lot of people have been tweeting us that, and we need to make mention of it.
Yeah, we should mention it.
We're kind of over it.
We've tracked that for, you know, a decade.
For, like, years.
A decade.
A decade.
It's only 1.3 feet a year, it looks like.
Yes.
And I want to thank, or say in the morning to the chat room, the troll room, noagendastream.com.
Good to have everybody there.
Thank you, DC girl.
I'm all into it today.
Spooky R. Everyone's there.
And in the morning to Nick the Rat.
The Sewer Man brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 9 or 1, titled That Milkshake Duck.
And this was his, yeah, it was like a warning sign, like a nuclear, no agenda, with face bag on someone's phone, your brain blowing up, dollar signs with a target.
It was a composite, but just a job well done.
Yes.
Just beautiful.
Just beautiful, Nick.
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Right after we're done, we start looking.
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Okay.
Well, we want to thank a few people for show 992.
We're only eight away from the miraculous show 1000.
I've made an offer.
Double producer's credit for anyone who contributes $1,000 for the show 1000.
They get a credit for this show.
And they get a credit for the show 1000.
They get double producer's credit.
And absolutely nobody's taking this up on this.
But it's still an offer out there.
Okay.
For some reason, over the years, I've made that offer a million times.
And nobody likes it.
I think one guy, maybe, or two.
He's got Grand Dukes.
Well, the Grand Dukes.
We start off with our Sir Anonymous...
Sir Onimus.
Let me get that straight.
Sir Onimus of Dogpatch.
Sir Onimus of Dogpatch came in with $800, which he does about once a month now.
Hold on.
Is he not a duke by now?
Doesn't seem to care.
That's interesting, isn't it?
It's kind of interesting.
He's just one of those guys that had to go grab the sheet.
Because he did send a note in.
This is a long note from him, so we're going to get ready for a long note, but it's, you know, $800.
He's going to read it.
Thank you for your...
And I can't read, apparently.
Thank you for continuing your outstanding work to keep us informed.
This time of year brings out our social stupidity, so pardon the following rant.
When I make my rant in person, I am called insensitive and ignorant, and I probably am.
Thankfully, this is a listener-supported podcast, or some of the crap I type would be taken as harassment, racist, or hateful, which it is probably to weak-kneed, overprivileged, utopian globalist generation who think that people over 55 know nothing and have done nothing for the world.
Yes, and they don't know social media.
This happens in the workplace a lot, trust me.
Yeah, I can imagine.
Recently I have met with family and attended meetings where it is obvious that the experiential society on the web that self-takes exciting pictures of food or reposts political cartoons or repeats memes to demonstrate engagement Do nothing for society but post-superficial stuff to look engaged.
Hold on.
You know, we watched Judd Apatow's stand-up last night.
I think it's on Netflix.
You know, Judd Apatow?
Yeah.
The actor.
And he had a funny bit.
I liked it.
He said, you know, back in the day, if I had taken a picture and sent it to my friend through the mail and said, hey, I thought I'd send you a picture of my food, people would have looked at you very strangely.
It's a good bit when you hear it in context.
Yeah, I guess.
Well, maybe your timing is not great.
The greatest generation left their children, boomers, with L.A. smog, the Cahoga River in Cleveland burning, Love Canal, coal slag, Gary, Indiana steel mill smoke, deforestation, to name a few environmental issues.
Good work!
That's the greatest generation.
They also passed on whites-only bathrooms, college-educated women restricted to teaching, nursing or secretary jobs, a Cold War, the Great Society, and more than a few other social issues.
Look that up in your funk and wagnalls for those that know nothing.
I'm exhausted from listening to the BS crap millennials think they face.
These so-called adults breathe cleaner air, drink safer water, have more clean and safe outdoor locations, have better educational opportunities, encounter less discrimination, more wildlife in the U.S. than we had growing up, thanks to us.
I disagree with the better educational opportunities.
I think we discussed that in the last show, too.
Depends on what you mean by opportunity.
Yet they believe 55 to 70 did nothing and know nothing about the societal issues and the environment and they have to save the world from us.
Because, see, this is the baby boomers' lament.
That's what he's doing, because 55 to 70 is that group.
Millennials vote for people that believe the same crap, that the older generation, boomers, should pay more to fix stuff for them rather than doing it themselves.
Unfortunately, we raised the latest generation.
We should have eaten our young.
Fortunately, the global competition they face may eat them alive anyway.
Done.
Thanks for tolerating my rant.
Enclosed is my monthly donation.
I do my best using old technology to be timely.
It ain't easy getting things delivered from dog patch.
My donations require a bank teller, a mail carrier to pick up the mail, at least one mail sorter to put it in the correct trucks, and a mail carrier to deliver the letter.
Not all donations are sent in the U.S. mail mail.
Making timely delivery even more challenging.
NJNK. NJNK, thank you very much.
And we did receive the five notes that you sent last month.
Jeez, thank you very much, sir.
I think we mentioned before.
Yes.
Okay.
You know, it's Christmas.
Can I give him a service goat karma?
He says NJNK, but yes, I think so.
Give it to him whether you like it.
From me to him, you know, from us.
He can complain.
He can complain later.
Yeah, I think it's worse.
From the sounds of him, he's complaining a lot.
Andrew Gusick in Greensboro, North Carolina.
I had a job opportunity to present myself earlier this year and forwarded my resume to the hiring manager.
I then walked over a month, waited a month for an interview.
The day after I heard my brother Bob Knight of the dude's name Ben give me a jobs karma, I got my call back.
After a successful interview and notice...
a notice and notice worked.
I'm not sure what that means.
I am now training for my new career at sea.
I promised a larger donation if successful so this donation brings me to Knighthood accounting in the email at As for titles, Sir Andrew is fine.
Thank you, Sir Bob.
Knight of the Dues named Ben, and of course the two of you as well, for the best podcast in the universe.
Oh, thank you.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you.
So that was nice.
Very nice.
That worked out.
Yeah.
This job's karma.
We don't know why.
We didn't make it up.
People asked for it, and it seems to have a high rate of success.
At least we hope so.
Yes.
Please keep me anonymous, says Anonymous, $555.55 from USA. I've been listening since 2008, and I'm overdue on keeping my media commercial free.
Thanks for the deconstruction on the bicycle rides.
Hmm.
What was that?
I don't know.
What did we do on bicycle rides?
Oh, I think he's on a bicycle ride listening.
Oh, okay.
That's what I'm guessing.
I would like credit on my LinkedIn profile, if possible.
I'm not sure what he's talking about here.
He can put it on.
You can put it on yourself, yeah.
We got nothing to do with it.
Cheers.
I guess he's got no nothing going on.
No nothing else.
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You know, I feel bad for people.
My sister's birthday is January 1st, also kind of sucks.
Yeah.
I just gave you a gift.
Yeah.
You just got, this is your combo gift.
No, it's like, people never want to celebrate with it.
Like, eh, we can't come over.
We're doing other things on New Year's Eve.
Yeah, January 1st is another, yeah, just a problem.
Gift is a problem, then showing up is a problem.
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Thank you for all you do.
I look forward to joining the round table before I turn 52.
A little goat karma would be appreciated.
All right, Dan Pinkerton in California, you bet.
You've got karma.
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Dropping down to Associate Executive Producers, we start with Andrea Marburger.
$250.
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Here is the Hoff.
Hoff.
Off the off the off.
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You can have it?
You've been de-douched.
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I hope she knows the show's done twice a week.
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Also in this part of the world.
We have a lot of German lists.
They are number four.
Actually, I'll take a look while you're reading.
We have the new podcast analytics, John.
Yes, I heard such a thing.
She says, keep up the great work.
It's very much appreciated, especially in this part of the world.
I wish you wonderful holidays.
Greetings and frohe Weihnachten.
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Von der Hoff.
The Hoff would say the same.
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Sir Chansey or Chauncey?
Should it be Chauncey?
It's Chansey.
Yeah, Chansey it says.
$248 from New York City.
Sir Chansey here.
Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas to you both.
Can I get a travel karma as well as a Sharpton of your choice?
Thank you for your courage.
Which Sharpton would we like?
I mean, just the...
You know the one I'm always picking, so don't...
You get it to pick something else.
Which one do you always pick?
As much.
Oh, Resist We Much?
Yeah, the much.
Yeah, we can do that.
And you want a travel karma?
Resist We Much.
We must and we will much.
About that.
Be committed.
Unbelievable.
You've got karma.
He was getting paid good money to do that.
Yeah, what happened?
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Did that finally end?
Finally?
I don't know how they did it.
Because I think he had something on somebody.
I don't know what he was doing, working there.
But I think so.
I have not seen or heard of him.
I wonder.
Maybe he's a hashtag Me Too issue.
That would have come out.
Just launching it.
All right, so I got Samuel Lichtenstein, and I can't find...
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He is from New York, New York, with a 23456 donation.
Yes, and let's see what we got here.
Samuel, Samuel, Untermire.
We got Untermire.
We got Common.
No, no note.
Let me see if I have anything here.
No, 23456 from New York and no note.
Okay.
No, no note.
Then we got Dame Patricia of Biscayne Bay.
$200.
And she sent a card.
She always does.
She always sends cards.
Nice cards.
I can't believe this is to be the card.
Yes.
Nothing much to it.
But she says, wishing you and Adam a very happy Christmas.
Thanks for all your hard work.
I appreciate not having to watch any TV news.
Always request jobs karma for my kids.
Best to you, Dame Patricia.
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
Well, that's a variation on a theme.
Let us know if it works.
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And particularly around the holidays, you need to be out there propagating our formula!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
So we have a new tax code.
Tax plan, tax code.
Yeah.
And this, I think, is a big deal.
We haven't changed this in a long time.
Over 30 years.
Yeah.
And I looked at it.
And I have to say that I have no idea if any of this will work.
I don't think anyone does.
Of course not.
It's a total crapshoot.
Yeah, that's what it seems like to me.
You just don't know if this is going to work or not.
Well, it's already working for some people.
I think it's AT&T or Comcast and one of these guys have given everybody $1,000 bonus.
No, actually, I have the list here.
It was AT&T gave everybody a bonus.
300,000 people got...
Now, I've done this with my company in the past when we had the public company, Think New Ideas.
And it takes a little while to do something.
You can't just say as CEO, hey, let's give everyone a grand.
There's a lot of work.
You have to set it up.
There's all kinds of implications, tax implications, payroll implications.
The board has to approve it.
There's a whole bunch of stuff that goes down.
More interesting to me is the companies who are saying we're raising our wages to $15.
Now, that I think is interesting.
Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them doing that.
And the way I took this is, because I know it takes a long...
Raising the wage on your workers?
Now, this takes a long time.
So I think, because this is AT&T, it's Boeing, these are big companies, a lot of military-industrial complex.
My feeling is, hey, guys, look.
Do me a solid on this.
If we pass this thing, then show how great it is, and then I'll make sure we buy more of your crap.
Which we're about to do as the...
You're probably right.
Because you're right.
You just can't do this instantly.
Let me play the little clip I have here about the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act.
The Senate's $700 billion defense policy bill is far beyond what President Donald...
700, that's more than it used to be.
We track this stuff.
It used to be around 650, 640, maybe 660.
There's an extra 40 bill that just passed out there.
Minimum.
I'm thinking, thank you very much for giving everybody a raise.
The Senate's $700 billion defense policy bill is far beyond what President Donald Trump had sought.
And it sets the tone for America's military might in the next fiscal year.
Now, the 1,200-page bill sets aside about $640 billion for basic Pentagon operations, which is $37 billion more than Trump requested.
It also adds another $60 billion for a special war account for overseas operations in places like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.
Now, the mammoth spending bill got mammoth bipartisan support in the Senate.
Eighty-nine senators voted yay, while only eight voted nay.
It needed just simple majority to pass.
There's a bunch of war miners.
There's a bunch of Democrats voting for this, too.
Yes.
This is ridiculous.
And by the way, 60 extra billion dollars, 60 extra is what it was, 60 extra billion dollars for the money going to Iraq and Afghanistan.
There are potholes on Highway 80 that need fixing, but they're fixing the potholes in Iraq.
Let me tell you, the potholes in Iraq are pretty, pretty bad.
Yes, but let them fix them themselves.
They can just fill them with dirt, which is kind of what they do here.
It's not a pet peeve.
It's just a complaint.
It's not a pet peeve!
Ten years.
Ten years I've been hearing you bitch about this.
Yes.
Have you ever driven on these roads?
That constitutes a pet peeve.
I'm going to put a camera without and turn off the image stabilization.
I'm going to glue it to the car.
I'm going to drive on some of these roads and show you and post it on YouTube.
These roads is unbelievable.
By the way, I almost broke an axle on Highway 5 when I was coming back from Los Angeles.
It's unbelievable.
I almost, almost posted a comment on the face bag the other day.
I think it was Dave Weiner or someone.
Tax cuts.
I'm doing the Dave Weiner voice.
He's just going to go to the military industrial complex.
All Republicans, by the way!
No, the CEO of Raytheon, a woman.
Most of them are Democrats.
The CEO of the Lockheed Martins is a woman and a Democrat.
Tell him to take a look at the Senate vote and tell me how many Democrats voted for this bill.
How many did?
Most of them.
He's just a bigot.
Yes.
We continue.
The mammoth spending bill got mammoth bipartisan support in the Senate.
Eighty-nine senators voted yay, while only eight voted nay.
It needed just simple majority to pass.
Now getting into the nitty-gritty of the proposed National Defense Authorization Act, $141 billion is set aside for military personnel costs, including a 2.1% troop pay raise.
$8.5 billion is for the U.S. Missile Defense Agency to defend against North Korea, while $705 million is for the Israeli cooperative missile defense programs, well more than what the Trump administration requested.
Another $500 million will provide security assistance, including weapons, to Ukraine, and $100 million to help Balkan nations to, quote, deter Russian aggression.
Now, in addition to spending allocations, senators proposed hundreds of amendments they hoped would be attached to the NDAA. Most were left off, but New Hampshire Democrat Gene Shaheen's amendment to ban the use of Russian-based Kaspersky lab software across the federal government was attached and passed.
This comes a week after the Trump administration directed federal agencies to remove the software, saying the risk is too great to ignore that the Russian government could use the private company's software as a backdoor into the U.S. government.
More controversial amendments were left off the NDAA to promote its passing, but this will not be the final version.
It must be reconciled with the House version before heading to the president's desk.
The House passed its own plan in July, and the two do have differences.
But while Congress seems to agree on very little these days, the National Defense Authorization Act is seen as a must-pass legislation and has been passed 55 straight years.
Where it will run into trouble is with finances.
The House and Senate versions both defy sequestration caps set in 2011.
Democrats are not against blowing the cap, but they also want to see caps eased on non-defense spending and have pledged to block major increases in military spending without similar boosts to domestic programs.
Those poor guys at Kaspersky Labs, they got screwed.
They're suing.
They didn't donate enough.
No, I think this is a payback.
They're the ones who pretty much discovered and busted everybody for Stuxnet.
Stuxnet, right.
You're right, you're right.
This is your, hey, thanks for all that, for all the help.
Yeah, adios.
Yeah, adios, mofos.
Sorry.
Sorry, Kaspersky.
Well, I have the, well, let's play the tax cut stuff that came out.
This was on CBS, and so they're There was a very interesting report because they were kind of...
This is a very interesting three-parter here that I've got.
So let's start with just the rundown.
President Trump got what he wanted most for Christmas.
Congress today approved a $1.5 trillion package of tax cuts, part of the biggest overhaul of the tax code in 31 years.
It also cuts out a major part of Obamacare, ending the requirement that most Americans buy health insurance or pay a fine.
Right after I finally bought some, dammit.
This is the president's biggest legislative victory, achieved without a Democratic vote, and he called Republicans to the White House to celebrate.
Major Garrett was there.
This will indeed be a very big day when people look back at our country.
President Trump and fellow Republicans celebrated on the South Lawn and promised the tax cuts will unleash economic growth.
It means jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.
The president showered praise on GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.
It was a little team.
It's always a lot of fun when you win.
If you work hard and lose, that's not acceptable.
The president will sign the bill in the coming days.
It reduces the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%, doubles the current standard deduction for individuals and families, and doubles the child tax credit.
Taxpayers will see the effects in February paychecks.
Congressional Republicans who met the president's Christmas deadline for passage served up fawning praise for Mr.
Trump.
But for your leadership, we would not be here today.
You're living up to everything.
Everything I thought you would.
Something this profound could not have been done without exquisite presidential leadership.
No Democrats voted for the bill.
Party leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi said Republican promises went unfulfilled.
They were going to reduce the brackets.
They did not.
The corporate loopholes are worse than ever in this bill.
For the president, today's ceremony capped a year of accomplishments.
Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
The qualifications of Judge Gorsuch are beyond dispute.
Fewer illegal crossings on the southern border, regaining territory from ISIS in Iraq and Syria, and eliminating regulations.
But the president fell short on replacing the Affordable Care Act, increasing infrastructure spending and changing immigration laws.
With his trademark zest for superlatives, the president said he's just getting started.
So it's going to be really a very special period of time.
Wow, that was interesting the way they did that.
They threw in the jobs as his superlative.
Let me listen to that again.
But the president fell short on replacing the Affordable Care Act.
We all learned a lot.
Increasing infrastructure spending and changing immigration laws.
With his trademark zest for superlatives, the president said he's just getting started.
So it's going to be really a very special period of time.
Republicans say these tax cuts are having an immediate impact.
Late today, two large banks, Wells Fargo and Third Fifth, announced they're raising their minimum wage to $15 an hour.
AT&T and Comcast said they will be giving most of their employees a $1,000 bonus.
Jeff?
So, one of his superlatives is jobs, jobs, jobs?
That's what it sounds like from that whipsaw.
Yeah, as if no one else has ever said that, like, I don't know, Nancy Pelosi?
Nancy Pelosi?
Just to name one.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Here's a question for you.
Do you remember when she said that and what bill we're talking about?
Oh, no, I can't.
I'm sure you do.
Well, I can't remember the exact name of the bill, but it wasn't passed by the Senate.
This is the bill which was about the environment, where we're going to green up the whole country.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very extensive bill about how we can't...
We're all going to be repairing windmills.
That's our new job.
Your houses are going to have to be insulated.
There's all these rules about how much insulation you have to have in your house, whether you like it or not.
Yeah.
And it was all about jobs, jobs, jobs.
The green economy.
Yes.
Completely.
And that was a big failure.
Mainly because the Senate wasn't going to go for any of this.
Let's play clip two of this rundown from CBS. John, let me start with you.
Mr.
Trump begins the 12th month of his presidency today.
Put this year in context, if you would.
Well, it's a bit of a paradox.
If you look on the one side, you have all of those achievements that Major talked about that the president got.
And here he got a big legislative achievement at the end, which was really what he wanted.
But for somebody who came into the office with his signature skill being marketing...
All of those achievements have not paid off in popularity.
His approval rating, the average, is at about 39%.
This tax bill that he's been selling, the approval rating for that is below 30%, about 10 points away from where the Affordable Care Act was when President Obama signed it.
The Republican Party is less popular.
And so he has gotten the achievement, but what has eluded him so far is the approval.
You know, I'm so tired of this number, like approval number.
No one's ever asked me, or anyone I know, where does this come from?
And they always have it immediately.
This is promoted by the Washington Post and the New York Times, notorious Trump haters.
And it's...
I don't...
I find them to be bogus, because I don't see any evidence of this.
And especially when they say, well, if Republicans are asked, they find that they love this guy.
So...
I just think it's just a bogus...
I don't know.
It's beyond me.
It's just something I just like to pull out all the time and say...
And everybody hates the tax relief?
Yeah.
Okay, why is that?
Why is that?
Well...
I do have a...
I don't know if you want to...
Let's play the third clip.
First speaker Paul Ryan and a number of Republicans want to go even further and reform Medicare and Social Security as well.
But some of their colleagues think that could be radioactive in a midterm election year, especially, Jeff, since President Trump has promised not to touch entitlements.
And, John, talk about that image that was projected today at the White House, that of a unified party.
Is that the case right now?
Well, it sure looks like it.
And remember, a few weeks ago, we were talking about, well, the race in Alabama, which split the Republican Party.
And then also you've had some senators, even those who are standing behind him today, smiling and applauding, like Senator Corker, who have been openly critical of the president, suggested he may not be fit for the job.
They are now all behind him.
When you'd ask Paul Ryan about some of these controversies over the last several months, he would say, well, I'm not focused on that.
I'm focused on our agenda, and that's what you saw today.
They were in the promised land, all of them together.
That locks the party in behind the president.
It is not just a Republican Party that's President Trump's party, but it's now a unified Republican Party by today's actions.
Okay.
So, we'll see.
So, Tina said, you know, what's going to happen?
You know, she works at a non-profit, has a small salary.
It's very difficult to make money in a non-profit, unless you're at, you know, like Soros, Gates Foundation.
Soros isn't making money from his non-profit.
Somebody's making money.
And someone sent me a link to taxplancalculator.com.
And I don't know if it's right, if it's correct.
But according to that, she'll save, I think, something in the neighborhood of $2,000 a year.
Which is a lot.
Once people start getting their checks starting in February that gives them more money, I think you're going to see people not displeased.
Right.
But this is just purely from, I guess, the deduction and some other stuff.
It's a lot of money.
Yeah, $2,000 here and there.
Standard deduction has gone way up.
States like Texas do better than states like California, and California is going to be a wash because they're going to get screwed out of deducting our state.
So you can't deduct that now?
Is that what's going on?
You can't deduct that?
Right.
The big states like California, New York, and all these places that voted for Hillary all got screwed because they voted for Hillary.
That's the way I see it.
That doesn't seem very fair.
They voted for Hillary.
No, we got screwed on that deal and also the roads.
Yes, yes, you potholes.
You should go fix that yourself.
They're on the freeway.
Well, then make the freeway a payway.
No, it's even so.
There's still cars going by and they're hitting these things, making them worse.
Well, to get a little sampling of what Dimension B is thinking of the tax plan...
Can we get somebody to fix that jingle?
I kind of like it.
I think it's the best one we got.
I think it's...
I don't like it.
I think it's lame.
I mean, it's like an old one.
You've patched it.
This is nothing more than a patchwork quilt.
I didn't patch it.
Someone else patched it.
This is from the secret MTV group.
My former colleagues.
And as I'm reading through this, I realize what I need to do.
I need to get a number of voices and create a little radio play out of it because it's the post and it's all the follow-ups.
It's all the replies.
In this case, it really works well.
Oh, this would be a great radio play.
Yeah, we just need voices.
And we need an organ.
Why don't you bring your recorder?
It'll be perfect.
The recorder's not going to cut it.
Harmonica, maybe.
So the original post is, well, Merry Christmas to us.
We are screwed.
And here we go with the responses.
Bigly.
Hideous fucks.
Hideous fucks indeed.
It will create jobs and trickle down and expand economic growth.
Yep, we all know how great that works.
It's hilarious.
Yeah, yeah, the benefits to the lower middle class should kick in right around the time coal comes roaring back.
I would laugh, but it's also sad and crazy.
If...
If companies did care about their employees and felt so damn generous, why haven't they all wanted an increase in the minimum wage?
This idea that suddenly corporations aren't going to be greedy and will willingly give raises is bullcrap!
That might have been you.
Who uses bullcrap?
You're the only person in the world I know who uses bullcrap.
Are you in my MTV group?
Bullcrap.
Exactly!
I'm so mad right now.
I literally hate every Republican!
Bwah, wah, wah.
And I have a swamp property for sale in Florida.
The GOP is 0 for 2 on trickle-down economy.
Heh heh.
1986, 2003.
Yeah, it didn't work in the 80s either.
The new norm is the scariest thing I've ever seen.
This is a Twilight Zone episode.
He's ruining us.
Absolutely.
Come on, asteroid!
Where are you?!
Oh my goodness.
You want some more?
Yeah, these are all different people.
These are all different people, yeah.
It's kind of hard.
I can't do all the different voices.
Every single one is a separate.
It's almost like labor should become the metric of value.
Whatever that means.
Reaganomics part two.
I'm pretty sure GOP tax goals are more money for rich people and corporations and trick poor people into thinking they're working for them.
Yep.
Eh, me, as bent over New York City, New York State taxpayer in early April got a guy bent over.
It's a Merry Christmas.
Eh.
Gary Cohn asked a room full of corporate heads if they would raise salaries.
Only a couple raised their hands.
We need to buckle up, talk to our lawyers and accountants, and figure out how to deal with men in the midterm elections.
Jeez, people.
Merry Christmas.
Hang in.
This too shall pass, but it will likely take some time.
And it just goes on and on and on.
Yeah, I bet it goes on and on and on.
And it's...
It's like you might as well just put a recorder in the insane asylum.
It's baffling to me.
They hear things because the message has been very clear.
Armageddon, we're going to die.
Wait, didn't I have that montage?
Let's see.
Where's that montage?
What was it?
Tax.
Maybe Pelosi.
Let's see.
I wonder what the title of that one was.
Tax Die, maybe?
We're All Gonna Die?
Nah, dammit, I wish I had it.
Thank you.
Yes, thank you.
Okay.
Anytime you want to look for the clips, it's fine by me.
That was the commentary on that snide remark.
Okay.
I think these people are nuts.
Well, they're certainly uninformed.
How come you're not like them?
Ah, because I didn't go to American school and college.
I was not trained to be a Marxist.
I was not trained to have feelings like we are rampantly having today for other people and equality.
And I got lucky.
You're laughing.
I know you've used this argument before.
It's just an excuse for not going to school.
No, no, it's not an excuse.
No.
All these people, all these MTVers that you're listening to, they're all one after the other.
Are they all college educated?
Yes, yes, yes.
Every single one of them.
You betcha.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
You couldn't get into MTV as an intern if you weren't in college.
And if you weren't, you couldn't work.
Everyone I know graduated.
Everybody.
Well, let's back up again.
Let me just consider you crediting.
Is it possible that it's just because you're not in that milieu at the moment?
You haven't been for years?
You were kicked out?
I don't know.
And maybe the milieu is what's causing this?
And if you were in the milieu, you're a hot shot at MTV right now, that you'd be just like one of these?
Well, these are the people who I worked with back in the day.
Most of them don't work for MTV anymore.
Oh, so they're not in the milieu.
Well, no, the milieu they're in is television, so they do Saturday Night Live, ESPN. So they're still in the business.
Yeah, they're in the business, yeah, just not MTV business.
Well, would you say this then?
If you were still in the business, not the cable business, not the podcasting business, not the YouTube business, but in the business, the business, NBC, CBS, ABC, in that milieu, do you think that you'd be thinking like you do today?
Or you'd just be lockstep with the rest of them?
No, I don't think so.
I've never been that way.
I've never been lockstep.
That's why I'm patently unhirable.
They tried to fire me the day after I got there because I said something politically incorrect about Madonna.
Oh!
I think I've told the story before.
Yeah, well, I'd love to hear it again.
I just got there, and the press, Carol Robinson, she ran the press department.
We've got a big interview lined up for you.
TV Guide, which in the 80s was the magazine to be in.
TV Guide was the largest subscription magazine in the United States at the time.
Because we didn't have electronic.
Kids, for those of you who don't know, we used to look up what was on TV in a booklet.
And the booklet came in the mail if you subscribed to the booklet or you bought it when you bought your groceries.
Yeah, there was always a point of purchase item right at the front of the check stand.
That's right.
And that's how you looked it up.
That's how you looked up what was on TV. I'd forgotten about that.
How archaic does that seem these days?
Well, it was also in the newspaper.
They had the schedules, and you didn't need TV Guide necessarily for local television.
Yeah, but the newspapers were not, as far as I can remember, were not allowed to publish in advance because TV Guide actually had deals with the broadcasters.
So they had exclusive on bringing you what was coming up that week, and the newspapers could not do that.
They could only print what was coming up today, and I think for Friday they could do for the weekend.
Well, they could do the following, which is what they did.
They had what, you're right, it was today's schedule, and there's no reason to have anything other than that because you had the newspaper.
You always got a newspaper.
And they would have advertisements for what was coming up later in the week.
Yes.
Which it seems to me to be the smart way to go anyway because who's going to give it away?
Give it away.
Right.
And I always hated it because, you know, I would be on MTV and you'd look under MTV, it'd just be video clips.
Yeah.
Video clips with Adam Curry.
No, video clips.
Your name was everything.
Music video clips.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, this does come back to our conversation about the educational system and the Dodd Report and the Reese Commission, which is, I have to say, I think we've probably discussed a lot of this throughout the years.
There was a point where you were even threatening to do a special, and I kind of think this is your education special, certainly the work you did on the last show, which a lot of people seem to really like.
Yeah, it was good stuff.
And I'm just following up, because now people are sending me stuff like, oh gee, I forgot about that, and all these different things.
And actually, there was a little bit on the Ford Foundation.
Who are one of the groups credited with changing the curriculum in the educational system, certainly in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
And so, yes?
I was going to say, which reminds me, whatever happened at Common Core?
Well, common...
That has not been in the conversation on our show for months and months and months, and I haven't heard it on the news media for months and months and months, and I haven't heard it on right-wing talk radio for months and months and months.
Well, then maybe I'll do this out of sequence.
Well, let's get to...
No.
You're going to tell us the Madonna story.
Oh, the Madonna story.
Geez, I'm glad you reminded me.
Yeah, well, you were wandering off.
Like you were trying to avoid it.
Anyway, go on.
Now it's not all that big a deal.
So the way it works is you sit down in the press office in their little cubby corner couch so they can all listen in on the speakerphone, make sure you're not saying something horrible.
And I said, oh, so you're new.
The new VJ is great.
So this was not a live in studio interview?
This was with the...
No, TV Guide.
Is that where the phone?
TV Guide's a magazine.
So it was, yeah, they were interviewing me about being the new VJ on the scene.
Oh, okay.
All right, go on.
And so, you know, you've been doing this because I'd been working in Holland and I'd met lots of celebrities.
And so what did you think of Madonna?
I said, nah, she's not really that nice.
Well, hold on a second.
Why would they ask that question out of the blue?
Because MTV... No, it wasn't out of the blue.
It's like, okay, you've been working in television, you've been working in music television, you've met lots of people, you've done lots of interviews.
So what are you thinking of Madonna?
Yeah, she's not that nice.
I thought they were going to shit a brick.
And they, like, hit the mute button.
You can't say that!
If you say that, she's about to perform on the Video Music Awards!
Oh.
You know those deals they would do?
Yeah, yeah, you were just, you were being too honest.
Yeah, exactly.
You don't want honesty.
Nope, nope, that was forbidden.
You weren't hired to be honest.
It was not your job.
Wrong thing, wrong thinking.
You were hired to be a talking head and I smile a lot, pretty boy.
Shut up and smile a lot, boy.
Exactly.
It's exactly what it was.
So yeah, and they hated me.
They never got press for me again after that.
I was not to be trusted with press.
Well, it was a screw-up.
No, it was honest.
It was such a double standard.
I don't want to get into it.
And those are the same people probably with the same mentality that are writing those notes in face bag.
Certainly.
Bitching about one thing or another.
Because they can be honest there.
So they're expressing themselves.
Yes.
It's a private face bag group, so yeah, I guess they can be honest there.
Yeah.
Well, then now you know what's going on in the background of all media.
Yeah.
So actually, so there's one woman in particular, and I'm moving on back to the education stuff, if you're okay with that.
Yeah.
I just wanted to hear the story.
And there's been a lot, I mean, you get on the YouTubes and you start looking around for stuff, Dodd Report, Reese Commission, some extensive stuff.
And, I mean, I'm just going to play you one little piece, and there'll be more as we move forward, as we examine the idiocy of Dimension B. And this woman's name is Charlotte Iserby.
Yes, I have listened to all her stuff.
Yes, and she wrote the book, which we've discussed in the past, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of the American Education System.
Which is very hard to get.
It's certainly not on Kindle.
Do you have a copy of it?
I've been meaning to get it.
I just picked up a copy of a couple of other crazy old books like that.
And now this was shot by Rob Dew.
He's one of our knights.
He actually works for Infowars.
It was shot six or seven years ago, and he sent me a text message.
I said, ah, man, you've got to look at this because we did this, and it fits right into what you guys are talking about.
Okay, so there is some dramatized music from time to time that comes in, and this is just one clip.
But this is when she was living abroad.
She married a guy, a Belgian guy, and was living in Brussels.
And she's worked in embassy, state department, Department of Education.
Yeah, she's a government woman.
Yes, and she uncovered all of these different things that were taking place, and in particular, the training of change agents.
And this was a government-sponsored program where you learn how to change the thinking of the children in the schools.
So she came back from living abroad, sent her kids to public school in, I think it's Maine, and she got on the school board about the PTA or whatever it is, and they were talking about what the curriculum should be, and this is where we pick up the story with her, and we'll just listen for a little bit.
And I said, in what?
And she said, well, it's called Innovations in Education.
And it's how to become a change agent.
She paid $100 for me to go.
I went.
And all these normal-looking people, nice, some from my own school district and all.
And the guy is a facilitator, but he's using this big book.
Called Innovations in Education, a Change Agents Guide.
It has all these case studies.
This is a book we need, by the way.
A Change Agents Guide.
Sounds like something I'd read.
Of teachers and administrators and how to sneak in controversial curriculum, such as death ed, sex ed, bullying ed, alcohol ed, drug ed, You know, all these programs that have education hanging off the end of them, that have nothing to do with education.
It's interesting.
You don't have math, ed, and science, ed, and all that.
They call it math and science and history, right?
But when you see anything with education hanging off the end of it, red flag, huh?
In that training, he taught us how to identify Resisters in our community and they were the people who were smart, who knew that these programs were designed for nothing other than to make children engage in sex, to drink, to take drugs, to do all the things that the parents were being told the programs were to help the children.
I was considered a resistor, too.
Here they were training me to identify myself.
And so...
She has this interesting Dutchism, because she was in Belgium, but the Flemish part.
And I noticed this throughout the entire interview.
Very much where in America we say, right.
In Holland, and also in the Flemish part of Belgium, they say, huh?
At the end.
Huh?
It's like Canadians, they say A. Yeah, it's like an A, and it's kind of guttural and odd.
I was considered a resistor, too.
Here they were training me to identify myself.
And so I never, ever got over that.
Also, we were being trained to go to the important people in the community.
They're really very good people.
We all know who they are.
They're friends of ours and all, but they're head of Rotary, head of Garden Club, head of Historical Society.
You go to them and you explain to them in very, very good, you know, highly skilled change agent manner, which is just lies.
How important these programs are for your children.
We've got to put these programs in.
This was 1973 all the way through right now.
That period in education, we call it the unfreezing.
Now you've managed, because now I'm listening to that.
Now you're listening to it.
It's incredibly annoying.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just like, right, you're right, right, right, right?
I think, uh, is better.
I don't think so.
I find it to be, uh...
If someone says, right, I'll just go, uh...
Now I'm noticing.
I mean, if you hadn't have said anything...
You would have noticed it.
Oh, I'm not sure.
I've ruined your day.
You can't listen to the clip?
Yes.
No, I can listen to the clip, but you've ruined my day.
Uh-huh.
1973, all the way through right now.
That period in education, we call it the unfreezing of our children's values, the ones taught by the parents at home and the church, basically.
Change agents were a highly trained By the National Training Laboratories, we had the headquarters for that in Bethel, Maine.
That goes all the way back to World War II. I have the original paper from that, and it said that what they're putting in is they want to change the values to unfreeze the system, and then they're going to implement the new values, the new communist values for world government.
That was the goal, and they did a good job on it between 1970 and the year 2000.
And now the values, as we can all see, people are saying, we've got to be tolerant.
There are no absolutes anymore.
That's not fair to judge people.
Don't be judgmental.
If your grandmother is dying of cancer and you can't afford the medicine, it's okay to steal it.
That's what you call values clarification with the education for a planned economy.
Using workforce training, identifying children at a very early age, what they're going to do the rest of their lives.
It's the Soviet planned economic system, starting as early as first grade.
That's being put in now under the guise of school choice, charter schools, and using the performance-based, outcome-based Skinnerian-Pavlovian method with a computer.
And that's where Common Core comes in.
And that is something that I will definitely highlight in a forthcoming clip.
You know, I'm thinking about this.
I've heard this woman.
I've heard this speech.
I've heard most of this stuff.
But there's one thing that kind of stuck.
When I was a kid, and obviously this system was put into place early.
She blames it all on this one guy, Bloom, who we'll discuss later.
But...
When I was a kid, and they took this away, I don't know why they took it away, why they didn't keep it going, but what they used to have, when you were, if you're a baby boomer, and you went to school, you were put on tracks.
Yes.
You were preconceived.
Okay, this kid is going to be an idiot, so we'll put him with the dumb kids.
And there was a thing called college prep, and it was a track.
It was always the smartest kids all in the same class.
He went to AP for advanced placement classes, I presume.
What?
But if you're on the fast track.
Yeah, in the 90s.
I was going to school a long time before advanced placements ever showed up.
I didn't know that.
I'm sorry.
I was asking.
Outrageous scam.
Don't get me started on advanced placement.
How about advanced placement, eh?
Like I told, I was mentioning, a friend of mine is one of the board members of Letters and Science at the University of California.
And he says, oh, you can't even get into Cal now unless you have over a 4.0 grade point average.
I said, what?
How do you get over a 4.0 grade?
That's better than perfect.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's better than perfect.
How do you get the grade?
You get an A. It's four.
Four points.
Right.
How do you get over that?
I don't know.
You can't.
It's impossible.
But oh, no, no.
You can't with this bull crap advanced placement stuff, which is exploited by the Chinese, by the way, more than anybody else.
No, in those days, they didn't have anything like that.
That's ridiculous.
I mean, I don't even know when that showed up, but it had to be within the last 20 years.
So anyway, but they put you in these classes, the college prep.
It's called college prep, and you were a college prep kid in like the fourth grade, the fifth grade, the sixth grade, the seventh grade.
Once you were in high school, then you took courses.
It was different.
It was a little more like college.
But in grammar school, you were put on a track.
And it was always interesting to me because all the other kids were in, like, there'd be like, I don't know, sixth, fourth grade, or let's say fifth, sixth grade.
That's where it was most obvious.
There would be sixth, sixth grade classes, all different ones.
And the dumber the kids were, the more they were put in a certain class of dummies.
It was the damnedest thing you've ever seen.
Well, I went to the socialist Dutch school in the 70s, entered in the fifth grade.
Then in the sixth grade, you had the big test, the CITO, C-I-T-O, CITO, Centralized Testing.
And that test would determine where you go after sixth grade.
Then you would either go to the, I think they call it the Lomschol, or the lower jobs training.
Then you had the middle jobs training.
Then you had higher, smarter kids.
The HAVO and Lyceum for Athenaeum Gymnasium.
And the tests were determined.
It wasn't like the test and your grades.
It was the test.
I didn't even speak Dutch.
So I got a 32 out of 100.
Not a good score.
And my parents went to school, you know, and they said, oh, you know, he's a smart kid.
So somehow they let me through into the HAVO, which is like the third from the top.
And I failed miserably, of course.
I couldn't speak the language.
I didn't know what they had to do.
Yeah, you're like a kid that can't speak English and he's in a regular class.
Yeah, and of course I got demoted.
But you could see, it was like, you know, you are dumb, you got X score, you're going to learn how to weld, you're going to learn how to do shop, you're going to learn how to repair cars, and you're going to go on and you might become a professor.
And that was the system.
And it seems like...
Yes?
I'm saying this sounds like the system I was familiar with.
So what's interesting in what she talks about is that the education department in the United States made all these deals starting with the Russians.
And this was Gorbachev, I think.
Was it Reagan and Gorbachev?
Yeah.
Reagan and Gorbachev, and they came up with the United States-Russia program, improving research and educational activities in higher education.
They have a similar deal with China, where we are melding together all of these concepts, right down to the centralized testing, right down to the Common Core.
And when you really look into...
How kids take tests and how they study on the computer, you're really not learning anything.
It's really just like face bag.
You know, like, oh, I did something good.
Oh, I feel good.
I got a little dopamine hit.
So the kids aren't learning.
They're learning how to make the computer give them a happy face if they select the right answer.
In fact, when you start looking into this, it turns out they don't want to talk about this too much, but I think this woman brings it up.
It's either in her book or it's other books.
That really, no one's been able to even come close to one-on-one instruction.
No.
In other words, if I take somebody aside and start, you know, that's what tutoring is, mentoring is very similar, and the one thing they hate talking about, which is homeschooling, which is totally one-on-one, and it turns out that kids develop twice as fast and get twice as smart.
That's why You would look at any spelling bee, whether it's an American or an Indian or whatever ethnic group it is, it's always a homeschooled kid who wins the spelling bees because they can concentrate on that or whatever they want to concentrate on.
Some kid wants to be a good speller.
Okay, well, let's go.
The one-on-one thing is a problem.
They can't seem to get around.
And the other problem seems to me that the education system itself Really relies on sociology.
And sociologists and people that study the society.
Americans emphasize sociology a lot.
That's why I think they can manipulate kids into thinking a certain way, voting a certain way, doing certain things a certain way.
But one of the basic tenets of sociology is that your surroundings and the people, the milieu, which I'm always talking about, the milieu has more to do with it than anything else.
And so you could take, for example, when I was on the track to be, I was in the smart kids class, you could technically, Take a motivated kid from the dumbest class and put him in this class, and because of the milieu change, he'd be a smart kid.
And that's something that must really bug them that this basic tenet of sociology is never really implemented in these socialistic schemes.
It just never is.
Yeah.
So from this one particular interview with Charlotte Iserby, I started looking into...
It's kind of a small book.
You can't even get it on Amazon, but it's available online.
I put a link in the show notes called Lines of Credit, Ropes of Bondage by Robert Henry Goldsborough.
And this is something you want to read, and it explains the entire thinking behind, well, at the time, the guys who were running the show, you know, the bankers, the big bankers who were going to, you know, who were funding war.
In fact, we had this in your Dodd clips.
You know, they wanted to, well, what can we do?
How can we get people to, you know, how can we change people?
Well, you can change people through war.
That's pretty good.
And then they came up with this idea of changing education.
And it is the Carnegie, the Ford, and the, what's the third one I'm thinking of?
Rockefeller Foundation.
But they also did a lot of work on music.
And when you look into a lot of the theories about where hip-hop and rap music comes from and what is promoted, what isn't promoted, and what it's really saying, it's very, it's kind of mind-blowing.
So that's something I encourage everybody to read.
But these guys have not stopped.
And when you think about the social justice warrior movement of today, and you listen to this interview on Bloomberg, this is a guy from the Ford Foundation, the president, Darren Walker.
Black guy, just saying because he references that he, look where he is today, you kind of understand that this has not stopped with their influence because they're making large grants available for certain types of curriculum that can only, that money can only be used if they do it that way, the schools.
Oh, sorry, this one.
Income inequality.
It's especially hot this year as we head into an election, and we're in a period where we're having stronger job creation, but income inequality is only worsening.
Everyone at this table...
What is income inequality?
Is that that women earn less than men for the same job, or what is that?
No, this is specific.
This is a class, again, this is a class structure issue, which, and it's a cycle in the United States, by the way, 'cause we had the same, almost exactly the same thing before the '29 crash, outrageous income inequality.
That means rich people are getting richer. - Ah, yes, of course. - While poor people are getting poorer.
And that's-- - And we need to even that out because we need to-- - We need to soak the rich, get some of that money from them, And now, by the way, I want to stop all thinking for a moment and take one step up and realize that if a wealth tax was implemented, all these problems would be over.
But, okay, I'm not going to even discuss it any more than that.
But that's what income inequality is.
So let's just agree on some terms as this topic will be.
I think we're going to be talking about this for a while.
We don't have to do big topics, but little bits.
I believe the concept that these foundations are pushing is Marxism.
Would you agree with that?
Not socialism, not communism, but Marxism.
Well, the guys who keep talking about it like to call it collectivism.
And Marxism is a very specific system.
It's a loaded term, too.
It's very loaded.
Put into, yeah.
And I think collectivism is a good word.
We'll use collectivism from now on.
I like that.
Income inequality.
It's especially hot this year as we head into an election, and we're in a period where we're having stronger job creation, but income inequality is only worsening.
Everyone at this table, everyone in this building is very passionate about this issue.
Darren, how are you addressing it?
Why is everyone at Bloomberg passionate about that issue?
Just a question that she threw out there.
We brought it up and discussed it earlier in this segment about the media.
It's the media, the milieu of the media, including Bloomberg and everybody else.
There are a bunch of borderline communists.
Collectivists.
Well, the American people are concerned about it.
For the first time, more than 50% of the American people believe that inequality is a major challenge.
We're addressing it by organizing all of our grant making in the U.S. and around the world.
Because inequality in many ways undermines our vision for a more just and fair world.
And for Americans, inequality is particularly...
Isn't this great?
I love this.
I mean, he's saying it right there.
The funny thing is if you listen to Right Wing Talk Radio and you listen to this stuff, you find that the distinction that we made, somebody pointed out to us and we've been following it, but we don't remind ourselves enough about it, is that the Democrats are into equality and justice and the Republicans are into freedom and liberty.
That distinction is major to understand these two sides.
And you're on the, you can tell these people are Democrat thinkers because they keep bringing up equality.
So again, it's liberty and freedom versus?
Equality and justice.
Equality and justice.
Yeah, it's a whole bunch of words fighting each other.
In the U.S. and around the world, because inequality in many ways undermines our vision for a more just and fair world.
And for Americans, inequality is particularly problematic because it takes us Rob's from us.
Opportunity.
Aspiration.
These are the pillars of our culture.
The ability to get on the social mobility.
A kid like me starting in a shotgun shack in a small town.
What's a shotgun shack?
I guess a shack where they store shotguns.
I have no idea.
It sounds like...
I'll look it up.
Get on the social mobility.
A kid like me, starting in a shotgun shack in a small town in Texas, ending up as president of the Ford Foundation.
That's an American story.
The question is, Will there be more American stories like mine and yours, David, in America's future?
And if the trends around inequality continue, there won't be.
Indeed, the American people, and it's not just the Trump supporters, are feeling increasingly vulnerable, increasingly insecure.
And what that does is it drives wedges in our society, in our democracy.
Inequality is bad for our democracy.
It kills aspirations and dreams and makes us more cynical as a people.
So you have identified this.
You've written a letter saying this is your number one priority.
What are you going to do about it?
We're going to make big grants for big impact.
We're going to work on a new initiative called Inclusive Economies, where we want to get to a conversation about...
Sound like New World Order much?
Inclusive Economies?
A shotgun house is a narrow rectangular domestic residence, usually no more than about 12 feet wide with rooms arranged one behind the other and doors at each end of the house.
Thank you.
What are you going to do about it?
We're going to make big grants for big impact.
We're going to work on a new initiative called Inclusive Economies, where we want to get to a conversation about what kind of capitalism do we want to have in America?
A capitalism that is an economy of a hollowed out middle class and a low wage workforce?
Or capitalism that produces shared prosperity, where all Americans have an opportunity to get ahead, Get a good education and live a secure life.
That's very interesting.
What kind of capitalism?
Well, he keeps talking.
He's a classic example of the motif.
He keeps talking about equality and just this and that, which is equality and justice again.
And that's all they talk about.
They'll never mention liberty and they'll never mention freedom.
And notice that he says we're making big grants.
Yeah, big grants.
Big grants to promote this agenda.
Of course.
And sadly, this is only on Bloomberg.
No one else watches that but you and I. No.
Wrong.
Just you.
Just me.
And parents just don't understand.
Parents don't know.
No, they're idiots.
Well, no, they're uninformed and they don't know what's going on.
In fact, most parents today have already gone through the system and like, oh, yeah, okay, I'm all for it.
They dig it.
Yeah, well, they should all be for homeschooling, and they wouldn't be such a problem.
But go on.
Well, I was just going to play from their website the Ford Foundation's most recent video promo, and that would wrap it up for today.
It's hip music, by the way.
They've got the bass line in there now.
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I hate this.
Mainly because the mix, the music's way too loud.
It's also just slave training, it seems to me, this whole thing.
In fact...
As I've mentioned on the show before, if minimum wage was true to itself, it'd be around $30 an hour.
But nobody ever brings that up because this is all oriented to keeping people poor.
They're talking about minimum wage, minimum wage, minimum wage.
Nobody should be paid that unless they're kids in school or somebody really can't get another job.
Stop right there.
You're so right.
Instead of saying, hey...
Everybody should be able to exceed and be able to make as much money as they want or be as successful as they want.
It may not come in monetary forms.
But instead it's like, you need minimum wage, slave.
You're fighting down.
You're fighting down, and for a minimum wage that is bogus, $15 is not a minimum wage.
It's ridiculous.
That's a slave wage.
Oh, yeah, we're going to raise it to $50.
It should be rose to, like I said, I've done the calculation when it was first brought into the system.
It should be $30 or more.
And no one ever even suggests that because it would screw things up.
It would maybe release some of these poor people from the bondage that they're in.
It's unbelievable to me.
This whole operation is just...
It sounds like they just want to keep everybody down.
Yes, that is the point.
So you become a...
We become an entire global citizenry of slaves who work for minimum wage or...
A portion who goes on to become the elites.
And you're chosen right there in der Schule.
Der Schule chooses you.
Then we take you in and we accept you up here.
And you're supposed to like it.
You will love it, slave!
That's what the training's for.
I'm sorry?
That's what the training is for.
And all these people that are involved with all this, all these social justice warriors and everybody in the between, they've been trained to like it.
Yep.
Of course, one of the things they like is bitching and moaning about the difference between the inequality and the lack of justice and all this stuff because it makes them feel like they're accomplishing something.
All they're doing is just putting themselves in a box and stay in there.
It's unbelievable.
There's actually no way of picking people up.
They're not interested in that.
No.
No, it's keeping people down.
Fight down for your low-wage slave.
That's the message.
Then now you know why I'm different.
And you can shake your fist at the rich people, even though most of them are Democrats.
I mean, the whole of Silicon Valley is Democrats, with very few exceptions.
Yes, sir.
And they're the ones that are being engaged by the political class to help propagate this slave mentality, this Pavlovian response, On the next live show we do, next week, I'll bring in the bits about the computer and what that has done to the classroom and what that has done for teachers.
You'll get me my blood boiling.
I'll have to bitch you guys.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah!
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Shout-out to Rachel Butner.
I don't know why I said Michael.
Good old Baron Mark Tanner down in Whittier, California, 6667.
Axel Paul, 60.
Brian Lawson, Houston, Texas, 59, 58.
Sir Bob of the dude is named Ben, 73.
But he doesn't have his called sign in there.
No, that's very unhammy.
Yeah, very unhammy.
But 73's to you.
Sir Carl with a K. Rochester, New York, 5510.
Dean Roker, 5510.
Nicholas Hanna, 5510.
In Indianapolis, Indiana.
It was a big day for this donation.
Scott Waldherr, 5510.
Amanda West, 5510.
And somebody turns 30.
Do you have a birthday coming up from Amanda calling it out?
Says, would love my smoking hot friend Adam Barrett to be on the birthday list?
I believe so.
Let me double check.
Yes.
It's on the list.
Sir Don Barron of New Hampshire, 5232.
Sir Pain in the Ass in Richmond, Virginia, our buddy.
Sir Ben of Oakland.
51.35.
Pain in the ass is 5.432.
Andrew Benz in Arnold, Missouri.
50.05.
The following people are $50 donors, name and location.
Starting with Eric Ilan, I guess, Ilan in Murfreesboro.
Ilan or Elaine.
We have a lot of people in Murfreesboro.
Yeah.
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I'm sorry.
I just scrolled my way off.
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I got it.
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Alex, in his note, I think this may be his new tattoo.
He says, goat screams for life!
He's a big promoter of the goat scream.
I think this should be a tattoo.
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And last, Donald Schwartz in Chino Hills, California.
That'll be our group of well-wishers.
I'll go back and look at the note from...
One of our guys up earlier.
I don't know who you're talking about.
I don't either, no.
Listen, I want to thank everybody.
It is so important that the model continues that we've taken because all of the stuff we just talked about, you're not going to see this discussed anywhere because everyone...
Do you think PBS gets money from the Ford Foundation, from the Carnegie Foundation?
She's listed.
Thank you.
Ford Foundation is right at the top of the list.
Thank you.
So do you think anyone would be critical of them?
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So that's why it's important that you support our show, and we appreciate everybody who donated today.
Smart move by the Ford Foundation to give them big money.
Oh, yeah.
It's where you want to be.
Yeah.
Exactly where you want to be.
And we also want to thank everyone who came in under $50.
A lot of you are on our subscription programs.
We have a layaway program.
All kinds of things that you can do to support the show.
And, you know, even $5.
There is no note from Norman Pearson.
Maybe Natasha.
Anyway, go on.
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They just rushed you to the hospital.
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Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
Happy birthday, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me see if my sword works.
Oh, yeah.
Where is, uh...
Is your sword working?
Let me get mine out.
Yeah, here's mine.
It sounded kind of weak.
Pull it out again.
It's very weak.
Let me pull mine out.
We'll have to do with that later.
Alright, three knightings for today.
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So here we go.
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And make sure you tweet it out to us.
When you get it in, it's always fun to see that on Twitter, and people are always very confused.
What is this?
This is weird.
What are these guys doing?
This is odd.
Very odd.
Exactly.
Okay, a couple of F-Russia clips maybe I have.
Before that, I want to mention something.
Okay.
So I'm holding in my hand the 18 eggs carton of al fresco pasture-raised Vital Farms, medium grade, under open skies, on green grass, made with fresh air, freedom to forage outdoors here around these eggs.
So I bought at Grocery Outlet.
And it looks like a good egg.
I tried them.
They seem to be okay.
They're good enough.
I'm not great, but they're decent.
But they're from Austin.
Are you familiar with the chicken farms in Austin, Texas?
Yes.
Well, apparently this is one of them.
And I'm thinking, what does it cost to ship a couple dozen eggs, or 18 eggs in this case, from Austin to Oakland or wherever the grocery outlets are?
I mean, that seems like a very counterproductive situation.
Instead of just getting some local eggs from chicken?
Yeah, or from the backyard, if you have your own chickens.
Now, these are supposed to be organic, free-range, happy chickens?
Ethical.
Happy hands.
Ethical.
Ethical eggs.
Oh, let me write that down.
Every hand enjoys 108 square feet of outdoor...
I know exactly who this is, because they're at the farmer's market here.
I know exactly who this is.
They're very nice people.
Well, I'm sure they are.
And when you go to get eggs...
Wait, this is Farmer Chris.
Remember Farmer Chris?
This seems like a pretty big operation for Farmer Chris.
Yeah, but Farmer Chris sold to the big operation.
Oh, Vital Farms is their name.
I don't know if that's the name.
And right there when you buy the eggs, he has pictures, a whole picture book of the chickens, like all happy.
Walking around.
I'm happy.
I'm in Austin.
I'm happy.
I'm a happy chicken in Austin.
Freedom to forage outdoors year-round.
Made with fresh air and sunshine, it says.
It's very well good.
Yummy.
Tended by hand on family farms across America.
So these eggs come from this Vital Farms as a congregator or somebody buying up these little farmers and putting these eggs out as these happy hens.
Happy hens.
Happy hens.
Is that the brand Happy Hens?
The brand is al fresco.
I like this.
It could be a song, Happy Hens.
Happy Hens.
They should have a jingle.
They should totally have a jingle.
Yeah.
Happy hens.
We're the happy hens.
So what are you doing for Christmas?
Are you going to Washington?
No, everybody's all spread out on Christmas, so we're having our Christmas here at the house on like the 29th or the 30th.
Oh.
I, by the way, have been advocating this for years, which is pushing off Christmas Because of two reasons.
One, I'm cheap.
And right after Christmas, you can go to all this Boxing Day and all these places that are selling the stuff at a deep discount, and you can buy a bunch of last-minute gifts at a good deal.
And then you have your Christmas where there's not a big rush.
I can get a turkey cheaper.
I'll cook a turkey or a goose.
You are Scrooge, man.
No, I'm not saying it's just for that, but it's like you can do it literally.
You don't have to be, everything has to be on the day.
Oh, we got to do this on the day.
Oh, it's my birthday.
It's got to be on the day.
I'm not a big believer.
I'm not buying that.
It's not a Scrooge thing, but as a benefit, I see it as a Scrooge thing.
Yes.
Well, we're going to Chicago.
Yeah, I heard that.
Well, I'm telling you, I'm telling the whole audience.
I know, I was just saying, I heard you going to Chicago.
Yeah, going to Chicago.
So it's Tina's family.
They're like 18 sisters.
Her mom, her girls.
Girls night out.
Oh yeah, it's going to be a whole bunch of women and then I think three dudes.
Oh yeah, you guys are screwed over.
We are totally screwed.
You want to get a word in edgewise.
What the hell is going on with Chicago though?
I don't know what...
This is the Cook County Commissioner...
Cook County...
That's in Chicago, I take it?
Cook County is Chicago.
He's the Cook County Commissioner, Richard.
You lived in Chicago, didn't you, as a kid?
Oh yeah, yeah, I was a kid.
I lived in Chicago.
In Chicago.
Chicago.
So he was interviewed at the airport on his way to Washington, D.C. Well, we're headed to the United Nations to meet with the Assistant Secretary General to talk about the violence in Chicago, the gun violence in particular.
The bloodshed that's taken place in too many of our communities like Austin, West Garfield Park, North Mondale, places like that, where we've just seen horrific levels of shootings and that sort of thing.
And so I'm hoping to appeal to the UN to actually come to Chicago and meet with victims of violence and maybe even possibly help out in terms of peacekeeping efforts.
Blue helmets in Chicago.
What?
Yes, yes, yes.
He's serious.
Listen.
He wants the peacekeeping corps in Chicago.
It's that bad.
He wants the blue helmets.
Listen.
So we can expect a cholera outbreak in Chicago.
You'll be pooping.
Is that what you're saying?
Chicago, you're going to be pooping.
And maybe even possibly help out in terms of peacekeeping efforts.
Because I think it's so critical for us to make sure that these neighborhoods are safe.
Quite frankly, we failed the people of Chicago in many instances in these communities because we failed to protect them from the violence.
I'll also say this, that there is a quiet genocide taking place in too many of our communities.
Eighty percent of those who are being killed by gun violence are African-American.
And often killed at the hands of another African American.
And so we must protect these population groups, and that's what the United Nations does.
They're a peacekeeping force.
They know all about keeping the peace, and so we're hopeful that they'll hear our appeal.
Wow.
Wow.
How about that?
Blue helmets in Chicago.
Ah, there you go.
That's your clip of the day.
I knew I was gonna get it.
You do it.
You do it!
I knew it.
And I had to hold on to it for two hours.
It was hard.
Well, that would be fantastic.
I think it'd be fantastic, too.
I wonder...
What a humiliation for the United States.
This is just another way to humiliate Trump.
Yeah.
Can't take care of our own states, even though it's a democratic state.
It wouldn't work out for the Democrats, but We had to bring the UN into Chicago to do peacekeeping.
It's never going to happen, by the way, so we can just leave our dreams behind.
I believe he used the term genocide specifically because that triggers the G word.
Genocide is not when the same ethnic groups killed themselves.
No, it's incorrect, but he's using it because he wants to get the blue helmets on the street.
Can you imagine?
That'd be great.
But we should have the international blue helmets.
So we should have, you know, guys from Sri Lanka, the ones with the cholera.
We should have, you know...
Yeah, bring some cholera guys in.
Bring some Japanese in.
That'd be funny.
Little Japanese guys with blue helmets protecting you in the streets of Chicago.
Wow.
Yeah, well...
Again, it's nice to think that it could happen, but it's not in a million years.
Possible.
Even possible.
Let's talk about some hate here.
Let me see.
Oh, hate!
Good newsletter.
And it's interesting that you deconstructed the seven words.
Because I wanted to do that.
We didn't get to it on Sunday's show.
Because when I read the seven words, I had the exact same trigger that you spoke of in the newsletter.
It's like, oh, George Carlin, seven words you can't say on television.
So, very masterfully chosen by WAPO. Why don't you just briefly tell the story and then I'll play the Seth Meyers bit where he goes off on it.
Yeah, the Washington Post and what appears to be a very bogus story, according to at least the National Review and other people have looked at it and tried to find some documentation for this, made the claim that HHS, Health and Human Services, Have an edict or a memo or something where they can't use seven words.
And the seven words includes, I don't know if you have the list in front of you, but transgender, scientific evidence.
Science-based.
Science-based.
Evidence-based.
Just all these trigger words that just got nothing to do with anything that nobody would ever do.
I want people not to use, but they made this claim that they wanted to use it.
Everybody read this.
Even Mimi, I talked to her about it, and she says, oh, that was a bogus story?
I said, yeah, you didn't know that, did you?
Why would she?
She watches Facebook.
She watches Facebook.
Yes, that's her television.
That's what you're doing.
You're watching it.
So...
So it turns out to be bull crap, and then I deconstructed it, and the thing that triggered me when I did the deconstruction was the seven, the seven, the seven triggers.
George Carlin bit about the seven, whereas the FCC won't let you use, and I believe the whole thing was structured with that in mind.
Why seven?
Completely.
Well, it's a trigger.
And just calling back to using computers in the classroom.
I don't know.
I'm sure you've heard this all around.
But kids today are triggered.
And they speak about being triggered.
And that is all created by this Pavlovian way of learning.
Or teaching, I should say.
I don't know if they're really learning.
And the kids are, I believe...
Taught to be open and ready for certain triggers that then, bam, then this information that's stored in them.
That's white privilege.
That's racist.
Sexist.
It's all programmed.
Mark the time.
Because when I was growing up, when I was a kid, we didn't get triggered.
I never got triggered.
Seriously.
We never even used the word.
Ford is better than Chevy, or Chevy's better than Ford.
You have these two groups.
Yeah, that would be a trigger, but that wasn't taught in class.
No, it was just like a natural thing.
Or the baseball team you liked.
And I have to be honest, I mean, I sometimes try and see if I can find the triggers, and it's quite easy.
You know, you can say things to the kids, and you can get them going real quick.
You should try it next time they're over for dinner.
I do it all the time.
I knew it!
I knew it!
What's your favorite?
I don't know if I have a favorite that I can come up with because it's a spur of the moment, so I can't tell you.
I'll make a note next time I do it.
I'll let you know on the show.
Yeah, because I'd like to know, is it a phrase, a concept, or just a word?
I know words work.
Yeah, so I want to have the seven trigger words of no agenda.
The seven trigger words.
That you can just throw in willy-nilly just for fun.
It's not a bad idea.
Well, maybe some of our listeners can come up with some.
But they have to be true trigger words.
In other words, it's not just some annoying word, but a word that actually will get the Dimension B people starting to chatter.
You can't say that.
Most of it's you can't say that.
You can't say that.
It's not a cuss word.
There's not a lady in the room that I'm worried about.
It's just words.
It's like these random words.
Well, remember, these words are used to silence your voice on Twitter.
It's very evil words.
They silence people's voices.
One of the ones that you can use for the kids is, you have to be judicious when you use it.
It reminds me of the joke done by Silverman.
And the word is Chinaman.
Ooh, good one.
Another word is moist.
No, I don't think so.
I know about the moist, the story about moist.
People hate the word moist.
But, and women in particular, they understand the word moist.
I'm not believing that this is a real trigger word.
I think if you say Chinamen, which by the way, most Chinese aren't offended by, But if you just say it to the kids, they think you're either an old fart or...
I'm reminded in the Carson show, this woman...
Actually, no, it was on the Larry Sanders show.
It was the mockery of the Carson show, where this woman, they sit this guy down, and he starts talking about...
I'm glad to see you have a lot of colored work in here.
And he went on and on about the colored, and I'm glad they're making...
So that's probably a trigger word.
Colored.
Colored, yes.
It's harder to work into a conversation, but stuff like that.
Yeah, the kids go crazy.
Yeah.
It's fun.
It's fun to do.
I'm not going to play the jingle, but I did want to make note of the planned obsolescence that Apple has been doing, and it hit me.
Finally, I understand what their gambit is.
Make money.
Yeah.
Well, Geekbench discovered that there are three settings for battery and power usage in the iPhone.
And the two are full speed, and then you have reduced, which you can set yourself.
If your battery is low, it'll say, hey, do you want to go into conservation mode?
Sure.
But if you recall, when the 6 came out, and I had this, Tina had this, your phone, when the battery would get like 33%, perhaps, then it would reboot.
It would reboot and there would be all kinds of problems and essentially we now know that the battery was failing and the phone decided then to reboot.
So Apple issued an iOS update and everyone was fixed.
Except everyone's phone was kind of slower, particularly once the next version of iOS came out.
Because their solution to fixing the battery, which was clearly substandard in some people's phones, was to just reduce the power.
Reduce the processing power of the phone and say, hey, there you go, you're fixed.
Essentially, you went back to an iPhone 4 power.
Yeah.
Which is then very effectively used each time a new, you know, the new, oh, you want the new phone with the new iOS, your old phone is just not going to cut it.
It's not going to run.
It's going to run slow, making you believe you need to get a new phone.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Is this a shocker to anybody?
That Apple did this on purpose?
Yeah, I'm a little shocked by it.
Yeah.
Hmm.
I'm not surprised that it's happening, but Apple, you know, you'd think that they would be a little more, what's the word?
Ethical.
Like the chickens.
Yeah, outdoors.
You don't find this to be an outrage that they did this?
Well, I never owned an iPhone.
Personally, I've always been with the androids.
And I'm not outraged because that makes sense to me.
Here's what they hear.
I'll give you the outrage.
You want to hear my outrage about Apple phones?
Yeah.
And I always like to give people a bad time about it.
Yeah.
You know, anyone who has an iPhone always say the same thing.
They always say, oh, yeah, you guys are having problems with it.
I say, oh, just take the battery out and it'll reboot.
It'll be in perfect shape.
Just do that.
Yeah, exactly.
Although Samsung now is suffering from the same problem.
But at least you can change.
Oh, you can't change the battery on the new Samsung?
I think on the new ones, you can't take the back off.
Hmm.
I had dinner with the...
My old clunker, the old Nexus Galaxy that I have, the back pops right off.
You can change the battery, put a new one in, or a better battery.
You can buy a better battery on Amazon and stick that in there, and you're in good shape.
Yeah, I can't wait.
I'm waiting for the Microsoft Surface phone.
I'm ready.
Well, unless they're idiots, it's got to be in the pipeline.
They are so counterculture, I'm expecting they'll actually do it.
Yeah, well, I hope so.
This is a fun report.
I think this was maybe TMZ. So they have the Hall of Presidents at Disneyland.
Yeah, with the new Trump.
Yeah, and the Hall of Presidents, if you've never been to Disneyland, you have to see it at least once.
It's the animatronics.
Yeah, it's actually worth it.
It's a little lecture about the presidency and the history.
It's corny.
It's in a big theater and all these guys are sitting on the stage.
In these days of movies where you have...
Robots that are fantastic in the movie and they can do all kinds of cool stuff.
When you see an actual, they call it animatronics, when you see an actual robot that Disney is saying, hey, this is our state of the art, man, it's shit.
And the Trump, it doesn't even look like him.
It's Robo-Trump, the just unveiled animatronic president.
And it's getting lots of reaction.
I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear...
The robot made its debut Monday at the Hall of Presidents attraction in Disney World.
It's a privilege to serve as the President of the United States.
From a distance, the robot can pass for the President.
His jacket is unbuttoned, just like the real deal, and his hand movements are spot on.
Disney says they use the latest technology to enable more...
Now, hold on, hold on.
Did you see this thing?
Yeah.
His hand movements are not spot on.
No, and neither does he look like Trump.
That's coming next.
And his hand movements are spot on.
Disney says they use the latest technology to enable more lifelike movements.
And President Trump actually recorded the dialogue.
To stand here among so many great leaders of our past...
And to work on behalf of the American people.
But look closer and you'll see there's little resemblance to the commander-in-chief.
Not even close, goes one tweet.
Some say Robo-Trump looks more like actor John Voight or the late Lloyd Bridges.
Or worse, Chucky, the creepy doll that comes to life in the horror movie Child's Play.
Someone even thinks it looks like a cross between Trump and Hillary Clinton.
It kind of looks like they were already making a Hillary, then heard the news and had to change it to a Trump.
That, that I think, that is it.
That was worth the price of admission listening to that comment, because I wouldn't have thought of that, but that's what it is.
Isn't it beautiful?
Yep, they had Hillary all set up and good to go.
And it's probably her hand movements.
I didn't even think to go look.
But this is their state of the art?
That's your state of the art?
It's horrible.
Yeah.
I mean, it was the thing that, you know, when I was a kid, you go and you're like, okay.
And then as a teenager, you're like, oh, I should go stoned.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Going to that stoned would be the best bet.
That's the way to go.
Yeah.
I agree.
And I got one more hate Trump clip.
This is regarding the Russia investigation, which we haven't touched on today because, you know, what do we have?
We have secret...
These McCabe and Stroke, who I still am not sure aren't the same guy, are...
Struck.
Struck.
Stroke.
Struck.
They're being interviewed behind closed doors.
There's no transparency in this.
No, it's terrible.
This is the FBI. What could be so classified that he can't just answer these questions in public and say, well, that's classified.
I can't answer that one.
Cross-dresser, maybe?
Clapper was on CNN. What is he doing these days?
Is he just a commentator?
He wants a gig as one of these analysts, but they won't give it to him because he's just too dull.
Well, he tried to spice it up a bit.
You heard the president's speech today.
He calls out Russia and China, describes them as rival powers, rival powers to the U.S., but also says he wants to build a great partnership with them, and then had all this friendly stuff to say about his phone calls with Vladimir Putin this week.
Is that a contradictory message?
Well, it is to me.
I think this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer Vladimir Putin is.
He knows how to handle an asset, and that's what he's doing with the president.
You're saying that Russia is handling President Trump as an asset?
That's the appearance to me.
So, you know, we've shared intelligence with the Russians for a long time.
We've always done that.
Although my experience with them has been pretty much of a one-way street where we provide them intelligence and we don't get much back.
I just want to be clear here, though.
You're saying that Russia is treating the President of the United States as an asset.
I'm saying this figuratively.
I think you have to remember Putin's background.
He's a KGB officer.
That's what they do.
They recruit assets.
And I think some of that experience and instincts of Putin has come into play here.
And his managing a pretty important account for him, if I could use that term, with our president.
This guy is an idiot.
That is slander.
That's very disrespectful for a guy that was that high up in the government.
What?
Very disrespectful.
He's a liar.
MSNBC will be on the phone tomorrow.
Let's hire this guy.
He's a liar.
Just a liar.
We know he lied.
He lied.
He lied before Congress.
He lied.
Unbelievable.
Where'd you get that?
CNBC? CNN. No, that's CNN. CNN. That was Acosta.
Jim Acosta.
Oh, Acosta.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's his game.
Let me see.
I only have one left, and then I'm done.
Okay.
I mean, I got a couple I can play, but I only have one.
Well, let's see what you got.
Let's see if it pans out in anything.
Well, I got the Mueller thing.
Is it Mueller, Mueller, or as we say in Texas, Miller?
I never heard Miller.
You know, in Texas, Mueller is pronounced Miller.
Well, that's interesting to me.
No, not really.
That's...
Let's do this one.
This is the Mueller fire or not fire, the Don Jr.
kind of a side story here.
To the developing headline late today on Capitol Hill, the warning from the Senate floor involving the president and any talk of firing Robert Mueller.
The top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee issuing a strong defense of special counsel Robert Mueller against critics trying to shut down the Russia investigation.
And after recently being questioned for nine hours, Donald Trump Jr.
now suggesting there is a conspiracy against his father.
Here's ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas on that tonight.
Tonight, that warning from the top Democratic senator investigating allegations of Russian collusion.
Firing Mr.
Mueller or any other of the top brass involved in this investigation would not only call into question this administration's commitment to the truth, But also to our most basic concept, rule of law.
Warner responding to mounting criticism of special counsel Bob Mueller from some congressional Republicans.
I call on my Republican colleagues to join me in calling for the firing of Bob Mueller.
And look, it's time for Mueller to put up or shut up.
President Trump asked this week if he's considering firing Mueller.
No, I'm not.
No.
What else?
What, are you surprised?
But on Tuesday, just days after Donald Trump Jr.
spent more than nine hours behind closed doors with congressional investigators, the president's son openly talking about a conspiracy against his father.
There is, and there are, people at the highest levels of government that don't want to let America be America.
Pierre Thomas with us live tonight from Washington.
And Pierre, we heard President Trump say he's not firing Mueller.
So how does Senator Warner explain his concern there late today on the Senate floor?
David, Senator Warner says the president's track record is his concern.
He points out his colleagues did not expect the president to fire former FBI Director James Comey either.
That was such a Twitter meme.
Like, oh, I'm just going to fire Mueller.
He's going to fire him.
And it came from nowhere.
It was fantasy.
Fantasy.
Yes.
It's just out of the blue.
He's never had any indication he's going to fire him.
He could fire him.
He's not going to because the fall guy, I'm just going to reiterate, is Jared.
Jared's going to be the fall guy.
Jared could be the fall guy.
And you're right.
They could get him out of the Oval Office finally.
Might be a scheme.
Yeah.
And as Jared goes, so goes Ivanka.
And I like Ivanka.
I like her doing, you know, like First Lady type stuff.
That's okay.
Yeah, I don't think we've never really had a presidential daughter, I don't think, while the president was in office.
Because, of course, the Kennedys, you know, went on to do all kinds of great things for society.
Although Obama's had two of them.
Yeah, but no.
But they didn't do anything.
They weren't out there on the scene.
No, they weren't hanging around doing policy.
No.
Yeah, I don't know of any.
There may have been some of the 1800s.
I don't know.
What is this...
Uh...
Your copter story.
Yes, I thought you'd be attracted to that.
We'll play that, then I'm done.
Okay, hold on.
Uh...
Now, where did it go?
I just saw...
Oh, here it is.
Self-dra...
Okay.
Does this need set up?
No, just play.
Fighting wars may soon change forever.
David Martin got to see a military helicopter that doesn't need a pilot in the cockpits or on the ground.
The Huey helicopter has been around since Vietnam, but this one could be the start of a revolution.
It's flying itself.
That pilot in the cockpit is just a safety observer, keeping his hands close to, but not on, the controls.
The person telling the helo what to do was Marine Sergeant Deontay Jones.
The helo comes in and requests permission to land, I will give it permission to land.
When it's ready to leave, or when I unload all the stuff that I need, it'll ask me permission to leave, I'll give permission to leave.
And it's really just that simple.
Sergeant Jones is not flying the Hela.
He has no joystick to pilot it by remote control.
Just a tablet to issue basic instructions.
No prior experience required.
15 minutes of training with the tablet.
Anybody can pick it up.
It's real easy.
The Office of Naval Research, which developed the technology, says it's placing a large bet that autonomous aircraft can take the place of humans.
This is the flight computer that turns this helicopter into a self-flying aircraft.
It took five years and 98 million dollars to develop, and it can be installed on any helicopter.
That pod on the nose is constantly scanning for obstacles, warning the computer of hard-to-see hazards like power lines.
The initial concept is to use self-flying helos to deliver supplies to Marines in the field, bringing up pilots for other missions.
This Vietnam-era Huey will fly into the future when it starts training with Marines in California this spring.
David Martin, CBS News, Quantico, Virginia.
As a holder of a rotary aircraft license, this is stupid.
Why?
Because, yes, you can have the thing take off in optimum circumstances, optimum conditions.
I don't believe there is a flight computer that can really do what you need to do in certain situations, certainly not in a helicopter.
Well, I see another problem.
This thing is all controlled by just a couple of LAN take-off buttons on a laptop, or not a laptop, but a tablet.
What happens if the tablet's captured by the enemy?
Yeah, there's a lot of different issues there.
Or the laptop has got a bullet hole.
But what is the point?
Just go back to the basics.
The point is you're removing one person from the battlefield who is actually highly skilled and can anticipate...
Look, you're telling me that they have...
Yes, look, hear me now.
Look.
Shut up, man.
Look!
Look.
Right?
Look, the state-of-the-art technology...
He said, look again!
The state-of-the-art technology...
We just heard is RoboTrump.
So how is RoboTrump going to fly the helicopter?
I'll give you a point for that.
I mean, flying a helicopter is like ballet.
It's very sensitive, very small inputs.
And the things happen.
Winds change.
I mean, they can't even get a car to drive right without hitting people and motorcycles and God knows what else.
Running red lights.
Running red lights.
I'm sorry.
Why?
No, I'm not.
I'm not going to argue with you.
Taking one guy off the field.
Why?
Why?
Save money.
Let's put a $100,000 device into the...
Yeah.
Or more.
I'm sure it's more than that.
Yeah, it's probably a million dollars.
Exactly.
We have to amortize the R&D. I thought it was a real stupid story.
About a stupid idea.
Hey John, Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you and Happy New Year to everybody.
Although we'll be doing a show before then.
Yeah, we'll be doing a show before then.
But Merry Christmas.
We won't be doing a show on Christmas Eve.
It's Christmas Eve.
You'll be in Chicago.
Yep.
But we're going to have a great show anyway.
Yep.
And with Pchenik and you talking about whatever you're talking about.
Yes.
I haven't heard of you.
Everything.
I'll be in Chirac with the blue helmets.
I'm very excited about that.
Also known as Chicago.
Yes.
And Merry Christmas to everybody else.
All the boots on the ground, feet in the water, subs in the air, whatever.
Whatever you say, J.J. At the Troll Room.
Merry Christmas, Troll Room.
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Huh.
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