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Episode 9 or 6, 7.
This is No Agenda.
Predicting Putin will pop up in Germany.
And coming to you from the darkest corners of the evening in downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the drone, Star State, in the Cludio, in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're gluten-free, I'm John C. Dvorak.
I've always felt that's kind of synonymous for fun-free.
Yeah.
It's like, I'm gluten-free.
Oh, you have no fun.
I'm so sorry.
Well, they had this picture that I retweeted on the Twitters that said gluten-free marijuana was a shop in Oregon.
What?
That's what it said.
It was the name of the shop.
Like One Hour Cleaners, I guess.
Okay, I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
Well, we may not have as many live listeners today, but You know, Apple came out with iOS 11.
Everyone's, whoa, let me upgrade right away.
I can't wait for new stuff from Apple.
Here's a no agenda tip, everybody.
This is not a good idea.
It's never a good idea.
Always wait for, you know, release, at least the second, the fixed release, which is usually...
It comes shortly thereafter.
Yeah, usually when people's phones are bricked for about three days.
Yeah.
And so anyway, so somehow our stream link doesn't work and it's something where there's the streaming protocol that's implemented.
I don't know.
So we do have a URL that works that has been passed around.
Just one of those things, man.
Jeez.
I know.
You think after 30 years of this.
How about eight versions of the iPhone?
You know, but don't you remember those times when it wasn't working?
Yeah.
It's astonishing to me.
Hmm.
Ah, well, let's see.
Ah, yes.
Ah.
Excellent.
I didn't find there was a lot to watch over the weekend, really.
Oh, uh, the, um...
They had those stupid Global Citizen Awards again every year when the UN comes together.
I missed that.
Somebody clued me into it and then I just...
Yeah, we caught it late as well.
And it's really great to watch because it's in Central Park.
Your favorite boys were there.
Green Day.
Green Day.
Those young guys, you know?
Yeah, those guys.
Those young kids you think are going somewhere.
Billy Joe and the gang.
Billy Joe and the gang.
Billy Joe and Jack Daniels.
Which is great to see them completely sell out to the New World Order because the only people who are in the front row or the first 20 rows are the spouses, mistresses, children, friends of the elites who are in, as we discussed, in New York City with their diplomatic license plates.
It's for them.
They're rattling their pearls.
Woo!
Yeah!
Go Billy Joe!
And they had Associated Awards, which I think was also New York.
They bring out these great people like Queen Rania of Jordan.
Beautiful people who are not threatening.
It used to include Bashar al-Assad and his wife, but they messed up, so they're off the list.
They're not backstage anymore.
Justin Trudeau received a Global Citizen Award, 30 seconds of his acceptance speech.
We need to be every bit as strong, every bit as vigilant in opposing the scourges of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, ethnic and religious bigotry, neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, and the violent extremism of Daesh that confront us in 2017.
You know, just like LGBTQIAAP, that means an acronym.
Yeah, I'd say.
And I think he forgot to say Christianity.
We've got to fight against them.
At least it seems like that's what's going on.
Yeah, it just sounds like a douchebag event.
Yes, it's a total douchebag event.
That's what makes it so great to watch.
It's fantastic.
Yeah, I probably should have watched it.
I'm sure I could watch it if I want to.
It's probably going to be...
Replayed, and I'm sure it'd be passed around like crazy on the internet.
Yeah, Matt.
No, the performances are good.
I mean, that's fantastic, but geez.
All right, so what else did you do?
Watched a couple of things that I wanted to catch up on.
I caught up on the Ken Burns Vietnam documentary, which is mind-blowing.
It looks pretty good.
Have you seen any of it?
Yeah, I've seen pieces of it.
It looks pretty good.
He digs into a lot of the kind of the story that actually did come out after once McNamara released his autobiography or whatever it was you want to call it.
And he admitted that it was a screw up and we shouldn't have been in the war in the first place.
We didn't know how to get out of it.
And I guess Burns takes it a little further with some additional research into the beginnings of it and How we were buddies with Ho Chi Minh right at the beginning.
Here's what I didn't know.
You turned us on years ago to the Paris 1919 film, which I would recommend.
Again, everybody needs to watch this.
Paris 1919, and it's about the negotiations where, after the First World War, everyone pretty much sat down and said, okay, let's divvy this up.
And they looked at that big desert and said, alright, Iraq here, draw a line there, Iran, we'll throw Syria, hey Jordan, let's come up with a new country here.
Let's throw all kinds of countries together.
But that's when Ho Chi Minh was at that meeting and passed the letter to, was it Roosevelt?
I don't remember.
I think it was Roosevelt.
Passed a letter saying, please, I would like...
If it was in 1919, it would have to be Teddy Roosevelt.
Teddy Roosevelt, yeah.
But was he there?
Because Woodrow Wilson was the president.
Then it was...
Okay, thank you.
Woodrow Wilson.
To the president.
He had a note passed.
And he said, I really want independence for my country.
And he really started that far back.
That's why, of course, he kind of became the spiritual unelected leader of Vietnam and has Ho Chi Minh City named after him.
But what I... First of all, Uncle Don's in it, at least in the first three, I've seen him a couple times.
And I believe this was...
The interviews were taped eight years ago, seven or eight years ago.
So it's not like, you know, fresh, and they probably worked on it for eight years.
But what does become clear from the documentary, and that's why I want you to see it so we can get it from your perspective, just from a different generation...
What we were doing there, and of course Korea before that, was to stop this scourge of communism.
You had everybody showing maps on TV, like, oh look, all this red here, because you had China, and you had Russia, and Russia had all of the now Eastern European states, and how dangerous it was.
You just interview people.
Which were done in this documentary.
You see the fear.
And that's why we have to stop communism.
Communism can't come below whatever the parallel is there for South Vietnam.
And ultimately it was a very, very tragic number of decisions.
But I think it's really good.
Yeah, well at the time there was a thing that was very popular.
There's all these things.
Every time we turn around there's something new that comes along and it becomes very popular and everybody buys into it.
Global warming.
Yeah.
It was called the domino theory.
Oh yes, exactly.
Yes, it's right.
They discussed it.
Yeah, exactly.
The domino theory.
And that was the big deal.
All the news people, everybody were all in on the domino theory.
And the domino theory was that apparently the world consisted of dominoes.
And so one of them fell and hit the other domino because it wasn't as though they were playing the game of dominoes.
They were playing the stand-up dominoes and make them fall over.
Right.
It's a different kind of game.
Which isn't even a game.
Yeah.
And that was the problem.
If South Vietnam fell, then next thing you know, it would be Papua New Guinea.
That would be Australia and New Zealand.
They'd all turn communist.
Right.
Because of the dominoes.
Right.
Well, everybody was all in, that's for sure.
At least that's the way it seems from...
From this documentary.
Not everybody was all in.
That's kind of the interesting part about it.
I have to watch it.
Well, they're starting to show that now in episode three.
They're starting to show the war protests, but there's a lot of background in history.
And one other thing we were watching, and I felt since it won all the awards and we discussed it, and certainly since Tucker Carlson said it was a piece of crap, we started watching The Handmaid's Tale.
I was very surprised by this.
Have you seen any of this series?
I don't know why you cut out.
Just as you said the name of it, as though somebody was censoring you.
The Handmaid's Tale.
Yes, I have not seen it.
I know it's just a ton of awards and accolades.
And I don't know.
What's it about?
No, I don't even know what it's about.
Well, the premise is it's kind of set in the future.
And the idea is women...
This is the story.
And I've only seen three or four episodes, so I could get this somewhat wrong.
But the idea is, because of how we were progressing in our society, women became more promiscuous and they didn't want to have babies.
I guess they were getting dogs instead.
Just like Italy.
And so they started to become infertile, and then there was some terrorism, which is implied that it was phony baloney, false flag, then there was martial law, and then cities were blown up and they couldn't reproduce.
So in order to save the Republic, they have to have women who can reproduce all the time, and you get these classes of women, you have the The low level, they're dressed in red, and they're just baby machines.
And they are owned by a family, and the guy has sex with them at least once a month, and with the wife there in the room.
So it's kinky sex?
Is that what this is about?
What's interesting is it's really how women have become, and they go through the whole process, women have become the problem, they need to be contained, and they're in complete slavery, all women.
And so what's interesting about this is I'm watching this from a current perspective, like what was going into this, and there's a lot in the resistance, there's men are the problem, there's a lot of these The way I view it, just watching this, I'm thinking in the back of my mind, someone's making this to say, hey, you know what, if you don't watch out, men are going to screw us and enslave us all.
But here's what was interesting.
And it's okay.
It's okay.
It's very interesting to watch.
Tina the Keeper.
She's completely into it.
And I said, well, what do you feel about this?
I feel that this could actually happen.
In fact, in this regard, it is happening.
Just look at the EU. Look at what's happening with some of these Muslim enclaves.
Italy!
So there's a lot of...
It's an interesting thing.
I don't know.
I've got to watch the whole series, and then I can give a better opinion.
Yeah, that's your beat now.
I'll take it.
I'll watch one show.
I already know...
I don't know how...
I can sense these.
When you get older, you can sense these things.
I already know I'm not going to like it.
I think you may be right.
Yeah.
So let's say you've watched two or three episodes?
Three.
Four, maybe.
Three or four.
Okay.
Which one should I watch of the group?
Oh, geez.
It's one of these things that it takes a while to set up, and then you're a little confused.
Should I just watch episode one and then give up?
You'd have to watch one and two, but I don't know if you can make it.
There are two hours.
I probably can't even get through one.
I doubt you can make it.
You never know.
I might find some interesting something about it that intrigues me.
I just get the sense that I'm not going to.
No, I don't think you will.
Okay, well.
I'm sure.
I'm already thinking it's corny.
Yeah.
Well, it's not corny.
It's okay.
I don't know.
There's things that I like that you just don't like.
I'm going to check it out.
I'll get a clip.
I'll have a definitive clip of show one, which I will use to bounce off my ideas.
Okay.
Fabulous.
So I've been...
The research we've been doing...
One of these things has been...
Who was behind this Pelosi protesting?
Also just watching how people are responding.
There were a whole bunch of so-called dreamers who interrupted her speech.
My wife, she listens to the show occasionally.
Oh, come on.
Was she on a long drive?
Yeah.
So, she listened to the, she really enjoyed the Pelosi deconstruction.
And she did mention a couple of things.
She says Pelosi is kind of a control freak.
She's in control of the situation.
That's how she got the job of speaker when she was speaker.
And this kind of thing is extremely upsetting to her.
She says there's no question about that.
And she also agreed that the idea of these kids all repeating after each other like a group of drones.
Yeah, it's mind control.
Mic check, she says is absolutely frightening.
She didn't hear that during Occupy?
Occupy was different because in Occupy they had a reason to do it.
They were prohibited from using PA systems.
And there was a huge crowd.
Good point.
To get a question asked it had to be relayed in that way.
Good point.
But when you're in a room where one guy can just say what he wants instead of everybody repeating after him, it doesn't make any sense.
So it's a huge difference.
We have some dynamite research from Producer Joseph on the groups behind this particular protest.
As you know, we're skeptical about the guy in the shirt and tie who has all his scripted stuff.
I feel that by them saying they want a clean bill seemed like very much talking points.
Some professional signs.
You know, there's all these things.
So I want to give you a rundown of that.
But first, we probably should listen to the mainstream media.
And Senator Shaheen, who is from North Carolina?
I have no idea.
I think North Carolina.
And what she thought about these protesters.
Now, recall that the protesters were very angry at Pelosi because they didn't want to be used as a bargaining chip.
It was right there.
I mean, all you had to do was watch the, you know, 25, 30 minutes.
You can get the story.
They wanted, they want all 11, amnesty for all a million.
They don't want any negotiation there for border security to be in the bill.
Has to be a clean bill.
Seemed like a pretty, very, very politically oriented protest.
Here's what the senator thought about it.
Part of what they were chanting there was, let us speak, which she seemed to be allowing them to.
But why is she, of all people, getting this backlash from Dreamers?
Well, listen, dreamers, young people across this country are frustrated because they came to the country through no fault of their own.
They were brought by parents.
They want to contribute to this country.
They want to go to college.
They want to join the military.
They want to get...
All 800 want to join the military.
The college.
They want to join the military.
They want to get jobs and be Americans, which is what they are.
This is the only country most of them have ever known.
But she's trying to protect them.
I mean, she's the person who's pushing the president to help, right?
Well, she is.
And I think the good news is that we've heard from both Republicans and Democrats who believe that we need to do something to protect the Dreamers.
And that's what I'm certainly going to continue to work on.
But again, I'm just confused about why they're holding Nancy Pelosi at fault here.
Do they not like that she's working with the president to do this?
Listen, you'll have to ask them.
Who knows who's stirring up this kind of animosity, what we know about the Russians and their interference in the 2016 elections.
Is that they tried to increase divisions within this country.
We saw it again in Charlottesville.
So we don't know what's behind this.
But what we do know is that we need to take action to protect the DREAMers, to allow them to stay in America.
Blah, blah.
Russia, of course.
I don't know.
We don't know.
She knows damn well who it is.
It's the Immigration Liberation Movement.
And we have a ton of research from our producer Joseph in the show notes with links to all of these groups.
So the Immigration Liberation Movement, they were identified as one of the groups protesting by NBC and USA Today and WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO. In fact, WAPO reported the protesters were identified as members of the local chapters of RISE, Faith in Action, and the California Youth Immigration Alliance.
So, the immigrant liberation movement was created by the California Immigration Justice Alliance, East Bay Immigrant Youth Coalition, Faith in Action Bay Area, and Panagia Legal.
Pangea Legal Services describes themselves as...
How do you spell Pangea?
Pangea, I'm sorry.
P-A-N-G-E-A. That's right.
I'm sorry.
What does that mean, Pangea?
Pangea.
You know, I used to know.
I have no idea.
I'll look it up.
Pangea, a supercontinent compromising all the continental crust of the earth.
Yeah, this is the Pangea.
It has to do with Gaia, I think, which is the great orgasm.
Wait, let's go back to this great orgasm?
The great orgasm, the great organism called Earth.
And I just thought about this.
It's a globalist term is what it is.
Yeah, it's a globalist term.
I never thought of it that way before, but that's exactly what it is.
Oh, look, look, here it is.
From their About Us page.
Pangaea was the name of the Earth's original continent when it was one connected landmass.
For us, Pangaea symbolizes the unity and oneness of our global community.
Woo-hoo!
Yeah.
I actually wonder...
Wait!
I just want you to know on the 990, oh gee, who gives the money?
Let me guess.
One of those Soros operations.
In the morning!
Yes, of course.
I don't know why people just don't arrest that guy.
Anyway, so I'm wondering though, I'm wondering...
How many of these, they're youths, mostly in these organizations, and many college kids and all the rest, and they've all been ill-educated.
I wonder if they really have a clue who this benefits from.
These globalists.
These kids can't...
You can't be a globalist as a child.
I don't think so.
You can't be a globalist as a child thinking to yourself, oh, it'd be so much better if we had no borders.
Well, listen, when you get the next group that is a part of this immigration liberation front, the Immigration Youth Coalition.
Now, they describe themselves as an undocumented and queer trans youth-led organization based in California.
Our mission...
Is to mobilize youth, families, and incarcerated people to end the criminalization of immigrants and people of color.
We organize to create social change that confronts the interlocking systems of oppression.
Fiscally sponsored by National Day Laborers Organizing Network, NDLON, which is an open borders activist group, has received funding from Unbound Philanthropy, the Borealis Philanthropy, and the Open Society Institute from George Soros.
There we are.
Soros!
RISE, R-I-S-E, part of the Immigration Advocates Network, IAN, an alliance of leading immigrants' rights organizations, including the American Bar Association Commission on Immigration, the American Civil Liberties Union's Immigrants' Rights Project, and the Catholic Legal Immigration Network.
And they receive, RISE receives funding from the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Ford Freedoms Fund, and the Open Society Institute.
Faith in Action.
I like the fact that Bill Gates has become just a rampant globalist.
Do you like that?
I think it's frightening.
Well, I mean, yeah, I do.
I mean, I like it because it's just, ah, okay, everything makes a little more sense to me.
Faith in Action, part of the PICO Network, founded by Father John Baumann, Jesuit priest.
I think he was from Chicago.
Came up in the 60s and 70s.
Let's see.
Pico is a sponsored organization.
Our priest in Chicago.
Our priest?
It was Father Frank.
We had a...
Yeah, early on in the show.
Oh, gee.
That's a long time.
You know, I finally heard...
You know, I sent a note after watching...
Just a little side note.
I'm watching the Vietnam documentary and I thought, damn, I haven't heard from Sergeant Fred in a long time.
And so I shoot him a note, and it gets back to me in a day.
He's still alive, although his appendix burst.
Of course, he has Agent Orange, all kinds of complications from Agent Orange.
But he's well in the morning to everybody.
I think he's still in the hospital or in the rehab place somewhere.
And he's alive and as well as he can be, you know, living with Agent Orange.
Thanks, Obama.
Pico is also a sponsoring organization of the We Believe Together Healthcare for All Network.
And they receive donations from individuals.
Some of the larger donors include the Citigroup Foundation, the William Randolph Hearst Foundation, and the Open Society Institute.
Do you want me to keep going or do you get the idea?
I want you to keep going one more time.
Alright.
The California Youth Immigration Justice Alliance is a fiscally sponsored project of the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, also known as MALDEF. And MALDEF played a major role in transforming the immigration debate in America, fostering...
MALDEF? M-A-L-D-E-F. Oh, MALDEF. MALDEF. The...
That word was like passe...
Well, it's just an acronym for Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.
Oh, I said it made like DEFJAM. Well, is MALDEF a word?
No.
No, I'm saying that DEF as in DEFJAM, DEF poetry.
Oh, I got you.
It's passe.
Yeah.
Hello, 1980s wants its reference back, John.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I thought I was dead, so why would they use it?
Okay, go on.
Maldes funding primarily comes from a core group of corporations and large foundations, most notably the Carnegie Corporation, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and consider a report from viewers like you, the Open Society Institute.
Yes, there we go.
It just doesn't stop.
So that's who's doing it.
It is the No Borders, No Nations peeps.
Yep.
And when we're on it, before I, or lest I want to remember, October 9th, write it down everybody, October 9th, that is DeFace Columbus Day.
Woohoo!
Yeah!
DeFace Columbus Day.
Is that, let me write that, that sounds like a good.
You should Google it.
DeFace, bing it in your case.
DeFace Columbus Day.
Bing it, baby.
Defaced Columbus Day.
That's beautiful.
And, well, here you go.
German elites prepare Russian hacking claim in case elections don't go their way.
I think the polls close just as we started the show today, so we'll see if anyone will give us an update in the chat room, then we'll know how we're doing in Deutschland.
I thought it was in a week.
No, no, this is it.
This is the weekend.
It's right now.
The polls are done.
Huh.
Well, I got a bum steer then.
Yeah.
And one of our top...
Hey, bum steer, get out of here.
Okay.
One of our top picks for hits in the past couple of weeks has been this Facebag Russia story.
And Facebag finally made their move.
Well, I have a clip.
Oh, I have some.
It summarizes the thing, but it's a CBS clip, so it's a Central Intelligence Agency clip.
Yeah.
Um...
Face bag caves?
This is a little longer report if you want to stay on your topic.
No, you know, here's what we'll do.
I cut up Zuckerberg's statement.
The full statement, which was 10 minutes, I cut it into little chunks, little bits and pieces that are of interest.
Okay, well there's pieces of it in here too.
Sure there are, yeah.
There's a couple of interesting things in this report.
This is Facebook Caves is a CBS report.
Facebook promised greater cooperation today in the investigation of Russian meddling in the U.S. election.
Founder Mark Zuckerberg said the company will turn over to Congress thousands of ads that were posted on Facebook and later linked to Russia.
And he promised to make political ads on Facebook more transparent, disclosing who paid for them.
More now from John Blackstone.
We can do better.
In a live appearance on Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg admitted Russians found it easy to place election related ads on the social network without being discovered.
Most ads are bought programmatically through our apps and website without an advertiser ever speaking to someone at Facebook.
Facebook has also admitted that its internal investigation found more than 3,000 election-related ads costing more than $100,000 paid for by a Russian company with links to the Kremlin.
Facebook said the vast majority of ads didn't specifically reference the U.S. presidential election or a particular candidate, but appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages.
The ads have not been made public, but will now be turned over to congressional investigators.
For months, however, Facebook denied there was any evidence that Russians had paid for election-related advertising.
Senator Mark Warner is vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
I feel like Facebook finally has been responsive, but the proof will be...
In the extent of the materials they give us next week, and then will they continue to work with us to identify other sites that may have originated in Russia?
They've identified one Russian troll farm.
The identity of ad buyers should not have been a mystery to Facebook, says internet security expert Hemun Agam.
They would know that those IP addresses are coming from, in this case, an enemy nation state that often people call.
Russia.
Their expert has never heard of something people often call a VPN. Well, if you listen to that guy carefully, and I think I have it ISO because I find it so fascinating.
Yeah.
This guy, ISO, enemy nation state.
Play this little guy.
It's an enemy nation state that often people call Russia.
What else do they call it?
And when is it an enemy nation state?
It's not officially codified that way, as far as I know.
He says, and the guy was a weirdo, by the way.
Yeah.
An enemy nation state that some people call Russia.
What is that?
What is he?
Who is this guy?
Why would they put him on the air?
You know, I saw this report, and in fact, my setup clip, which is similar, which I'm not going to play because you have good setups here.
I was going to ask you if you'd ever heard of this guy.
No.
It was just some douche.
He's obviously on one of the lists all these stations have there.
He had a blackboard in the background with numerical equations on it.
Yeah.
Which made him look like a real internet specialist.
An enemy nation state some people refer to as Russia.
What else do they refer to it as?
Because there's only apparently some people.
So not all the people call it Russia.
So what do the other people call it?
You're ant-fucking again, but I do like it.
Yes.
Really?
I mean, this guy.
And you're right about the spoofing thing.
He's never heard of that, apparently.
And that's what I would do, too, if I was running a game.
I'd just make sure to blame Russia for everything.
Let's go to part two.
From, in this case, an enemy nation-state that often people call Russia.
Oh, wait, hold on, hold on.
Did I mess that up here?
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Promised a day to make it easier for users to identify who is paying for political advertising on Facebook.
And we can't prevent all governments from all interference.
But we can make it harder.
The issues raised in the ads and the fact that they were targeted at specific parts of the country has raised suspicion the Russians may have had some help from inside the United States.
Anthony?
John Blackstone.
Thanks, John.
The Special Counsel's Russia investigation has cast a wide net for documents.
Could they include the Spicer files?
Chief White House Correspondent Major Garrett has been looking into that.
Wow.
What?
Okay.
I continue with that as part three, which is the dumbest part of this report.
But I should have cut this off sooner when he said that they may have had allies in the United States.
Yeah, Facebook.
Well, no.
That was their ally.
They're talking about that they target it in a very professional way, so they use like a public relations agency.
No, no, no, no, no.
They think it's Cambridge Analytica.
That's what they keep saying.
Right, Cambridge Analytica.
Right.
But I just want to back up and ask the question, so what?
Yeah.
We're the greatest in the world at doing marketing.
Everybody uses our services.
The Chinese use our services.
The Russians use our services, of course.
Everybody uses our services to do this sort of thing.
Why is that scandalous all of a sudden?
Because Hillary blames them in the book.
On to part three.
The Special Counsel's Russia investigation has cast a wide net for documents.
Could they include the Spicer files?
Chief White House Correspondent Major Garrett has been looking into that.
This Associated Press photo of then White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer appears to validate new reporting from the website Axios that Spicer kept copious notes during the campaign and while at the White House.
Those notes have drawn the attention of Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
The portion of Spicer's notes visible on close-up in the picture refer to top administration officials.
RP for then Chief of Staff Reince Priebus.
Rex for Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
The photo was shot at an April press conference with President Trump and...
Wait, wait.
Don't tell me that he used POTUS for the president.
I don't know if he did, but I'm telling you this is a scandal.
He had a notebook.
He had a notebook and on it it said RP and RP stands for Rance Priebus.
Oh, code!
The photo was shot at an April press conference with President Trump and the Secretary General of NATO. Contacted by CBS, Spicer refused comment on the photo or the suggestion his notes could become part of Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling and the Trump campaign.
On ABC this morning, Spicer deflected all Mueller-related questions.
Has the Mueller team reached out to you at all?
I'm not going to discuss that issue at all.
Have you hired a lawyer?
I'm not going to discuss that issue at all.
So you haven't been subpoenaed?
I'm not going to discuss that issue at all.
Did you ever hear inside the White House that Mueller should be fired?
I'm not going to discuss that issue at all.
As press secretary, Spicer tried several ways to undercut the Russia story.
If the president puts Russian salad dressing on his salad tonight, somehow that's a Russian connection.
CBS News has confirmed Mueller is likely to request an interview with Spicer.
We've also learned that Mueller's interviews with White House officials, past and present, could begin as early as next week.
Anthony?
Major Garrett.
Thank you, Major.
The only reason why they're writing this story in this manner is because Zuckerberg has said, hey, we're working with Mueller.
Participating and trying to get to the bottom of all this.
Anything they can do to tie anything to Russia, that's what it's about.
This notebook story is ludicrous.
Yeah, well, there's the pressure they want.
They want to put pressure on it.
Is he not supposed to have a notebook?
And is he supposed to write out or not even mention Rance Priebus?
Oh, he said RP meant Rance Priebus.
This is a scandal.
They don't have a story.
That's the way they presented it.
Yeah, they don't have a story, so they have to report whatever they can.
They presented the fact that he wrote RP for Rance Priebus and whatever it was for the Secretary of State Tilly.
That's breaking news.
I heard it as breaking news.
Yeah.
I mean, are these guys kidding us with this kind of reporting?
Well...
Seriously.
And then they have that bonehead on about the IP addresses and some people call it Russia.
Yeah.
The enemy nation state.
Well, let's listen to...
Please listen to what Zuckerberg actually said in these 10 minutes, which is what I was interested in, mainly to see how they're going to spin this, you know, because advertising is their business, and we can't make it look like it was too successful, but on the other hand, we're pretty good over here at Facebook.
So here's the intro, and he's in his office, and he's on the prompter, which he deviates from a little bit here and there.
Facebook's mission is all about giving people a voice and bringing people closer together.
Those are democratic values.
Can you stop it for one second so I can just do a preface?
Do you find this guy to be unbelievably creepy?
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh yeah, he looks like Data from Star Trek.
Yeah, he does look like me.
Totally, totally.
He's an android.
Facebook's mission is all about giving people a voice and bringing people closer together.
That's their mission.
Those are democratic values and we're proud of them.
I don't want anyone to use our tools to undermine democracy.
That's not what we stand for.
The integrity of our elections is fundamental to democracy around the world.
That's why we've built teams dedicated to working on election integrity and preventing governments from interfering in the elections of other nations.
And as we've shared before, our teams have found and shut down thousands of fake accounts that could be attempting to influence elections in many other countries, including recently in the French elections.
Now, I wish I could tell you that we're going to be able to stop all interference, but that just wouldn't be realistic.
There will always be bad actors.
And don't think that Congress people aren't saying, why is that unrealistic?
Why can't you do that?
You can do everything, can't you?
Why can't you do it?
You can stop child kiddie porn.
Why can't you stop this?
That's not a good enough answer, Zuck.
But that just wouldn't be realistic.
There will always be bad actors in the world, and we can't prevent all governments from all interference.
But we can make it harder.
We can make it much harder.
And that's what we're going to focus on doing.
So today, I want to share the steps that we're taking to protect election integrity and make sure that Facebook is a force for good in democracy.
Now, what I found peculiar, if you're going to say, here's the steps we're going to...
Don't catch.
What?
You were going to say, interesting.
Yeah.
And you stopped yourself.
Yeah, I did.
Then you made that horse sound.
I don't know why you did that.
And said, peculiar.
Thank you.
Peculiar.
I admired that.
I tried to do the same thing.
I'm always working.
Always trying to create a better product.
What is peculiar is that if we were to do something like that, we'd say, you know, let's do a three-point plan, maybe.
We're going to do this, this, and this.
No, he has nine points.
That just doesn't seem like the way to go, nine points.
Nine points for what?
Just to stop the political stuff going on?
Yes, nine.
That's too many points.
That's what I'm saying!
He's point-heavy in this.
He's got to stop on the points.
That's the name of his show, Point-heavy.
Point-heavy?
That is good.
We are actively working with the U.S. government on its ongoing investigations into Russian interference.
We've been investigating this for many months now, and for a while we had found no evidence of fake accounts linked to Russia running ads.
And when we recently uncovered this activity, we provided that information to the special counsel.
We also briefed Congress, and this morning I directed our team to provide the ads we've found to Congress as well.
Okay, so they're working together.
Everything's all good.
He only has to go down, I think, one or two floors because the director of FBI traditionally hasn't had an office in FaceBag.
Yeah, so he's colluding with the government.
That's fantastic.
I hope everybody loves using Facebook.
Yes.
Then if you don't believe that, go look at the Zuckerberg...
Was he Person of the Year?
He was on the cover of Time magazine, then in the article, then FBI director, um, Mueller, who he knows personally, popped his head in and said, yeah, I was just in the office, in my office downstairs, just figured I'd say, hey, he's right there in the article.
Okay, who they are looking for?
We're looking to foreign actors, including additional Russian groups.
Maybe they can get Depardieu as a good foreign actor.
He's in Russia.
He's a foreign actor.
He's a great foreign actor.
Good call.
What about, are they going to look into Soros?
We're looking to foreign actors, including additional Russian groups and other former Soviet states, as well as organizations like the campaigns, to further our own understanding of how they used all of our tools.
These investigations will take some time, but we will continue our thorough review.
Okay, so he's going to see how they'll use the tools.
We know I use the tools!
He just bid on some ad space, and boom, he was done.
It's like not a big secret here.
But all this will lead to Facebag's political advertising transparency.
Going forward, and maybe the most important step we're taking, is we're going to make political advertising more transparent.
So when someone buys political ads on TV or other media, they're required by law to disclose who paid for them.
But you still don't know if you're seeing the same messages as everyone else.
We're going to bring Facebook to an even higher standard of transparency.
Not only will you have to disclose which page paid for an ad, but we will also make it so you can visit an advertiser's page and see the ads that they're currently running to any audience on Facebook.
We will roll this out over the coming months, and we will work with others to create a new standard for transparency in online political ads.
Okay, good.
Yes, go.
That's fabulous.
But here's the thing.
The way I'm advertising, they give me a free link.
Yeah, I don't know if it's, I don't know, maybe.
But the, here's what's interesting.
He says, first he says, you know, political advertising, but then he drops the political and just says advertising, advertising.
So I'm wondering if it's going to be this way for all advertisers.
So you have a page where you can see all of their ads that are running, even though you may not have received one of those ads with a targeted message.
That's a bonus.
He's giving it, he's giving the store away.
Free inventory.
I want to mention something that came up earlier before I forget.
The CBS report, I think, said that Facebook is turning over thousands, thousands, they used the word thousands of ads.
Now, I ran in a couple of newsletters ago as many of the ads as I could find, at least from the one group.
That was a front for the Russians.
Yeah.
And I couldn't come up with 1,000.
They only ran 3,000 ads.
That much we know.
Yeah, we don't know if it's 3,000 creative treatments or if it was 3,000 flights.
All I know is it sounds to me if they sent them thousands of ads, these guys weren't, you know, I don't know what advertiser does this.
Generally speaking, especially if you're a small advertiser and you're only spending $100,000, which is peanuts, You would take one or two ads or make a thematic series of ads, maybe five or six of them, maybe ten at the most, and you'd run those over and over different ways.
But to do thousands of ads for...
To fill 3,000 spots.
Yeah.
Well, in great American tradition, I recall from World War II and even World War I propaganda, heck, probably Vietnam propaganda, our tradition in America is to publish that and mock it.
Like, ha ha, look at these idiots.
Look what they're trying to laugh.
Isn't that not our kind of our tradition, our culture?
Yeah.
I think there's, yeah, some of that, but I don't remember anyone mocking the World War II ads or World War I ads.
We certainly share them.
We certainly show the public what the Jerrys are doing.
Yeah, I don't know if we mocked it.
I'm not sure.
I wasn't there.
But anyway, it just seems that these numbers don't make sense to me, is what I'm saying.
Oh, no, we don't know anything about the numbers.
But there's some other terms that I thought were interesting in Zuck's little soliloquy.
Now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that we're going to catch all bad content in our system.
Bad content.
I like this term.
Because that is subjective.
That's Facebook.
It's all bad.
It's all bad.
Bad content.
Well, I just find that a very interesting choice of words.
Remember, this is written down.
This is not, you know, someone thought about this.
Bad.
So it's not illegal.
It's bad.
It's bad content.
Now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that we're going to catch all bad content in our system.
We don't check what people say before they say it.
And frankly, I don't think society should want us to.
Freedom means you don't have to ask for permission first.
And that by default, you can say what you want.
And if you break our community standards or you break the law, then you're going to face consequences afterwards.
We won't catch everyone immediately.
We can make it harder to try to interfere.
I wonder what he sounds like if we throw him through the harmonizer.
I wonder if I can do that.
I'll have to do that another time.
Yeah, do it.
Yeah, do it separately.
I'm going to hear this that way.
Well, now you're kind of forcing me to do it.
Well...
I haven't done this.
Just snip it.
Yeah.
What is it called?
It's called the...
The Eventide.
I think I have to look under harmonics.
I'll do it on one of the next clips while I play this one, which is...
Oh, yeah.
Here he is being very specific to journalists, I believe, to say, Hey, you know, you might want to go check out and see what's happening with the other guys.
That might be fun.
Now, it's important that tech companies collaborate on this because it is almost certain that any actor trying to misuse Facebook will also be trying to abuse other internet platforms, too.
Like what?
Google.
I saw nothing on Google.
Yeah, no.
NPR. Sorry.
ProPublica, as we played on NPR, they went in and they looked for how to burn Jews, how to kill Jews.
They looked on Google.
Yeah, but that was just under general searches, wasn't it?
Yes, it was AdWords.
It was AdWords, and Google was automatically creating these categories based upon searches people do, such as how do we burn Jews?
Yeah, but there was no advertising that came of it.
It wasn't exploited, let's put it that way.
No, it was one of those, hey, we did this, what do you have to say about it?
Yeah, okay, go on.
Yeah, all right.
Okay, what do we have up next?
We have, ah yes, about his tools.
We will also create more services to protect our community while engaging in political discourse.
For example, we're looking at adapting our anti-bullying systems to protect against political harassment as well.
How does that sound?
I think he sounds better.
Well, he could, whatever you do, he's going to sound better.
So listen to that clip again.
We will also create more services to protect our community while engaging in political discourse.
For example, we're looking at adapting our anti-bullying systems to protect against political harassment as well.
Political harassment?
You might as well shut down FaceBag.
Are you crazy?
So you'll have no conversation.
Oh, he's a bully because he said something about my team.
Yeah, that's no good.
That doesn't make any sense.
Alright, two more clips here.
Ah, yes, about the elections.
We've been working to ensure the integrity of the German elections this weekend.
From taking action against thousands of fake accounts, to partnering with public authorities like the Federal Office for Information Security, to sharing security practices with the candidates and parties.
We're also examining the activity of accounts we've removed, and we've not yet found a similar type of interference effort in Germany.
Yeah, turn that thing off.
I knew you were going to hate it eventually.
So he says they found no problem in Germany.
None.
But they got their eye on it.
They are the protectors of all elections.
And then finally, let's just remember that if you got a message, Russia, if you got a message that you want to spread, Facebag is the place to be whether you're doing ads or not.
Now, at the same time, it's important not to lose sight.
Hold on.
Gates does this a lot, too.
Before they're about to say something awkward, I don't know if it's a tell, but it's a tell of some sort.
He says he swallows, and it's a noticeable noise he makes.
Right at the beginning, as he goes into the spiel, you hear him swallow.
Now, at the same time...
Ooh, God!
Oh!
If you have your earbuds in, it's really disgusting.
I want to crank it up when he does that swallow.
Here, listen.
Now, at the same time, it's important not to lose sight of some of the more straightforward and larger ways that Facebook plays a role in elections.
Okay, pay attention!
These effects operate at much larger scales, a hundred times or a thousand times bigger than what we're discussing here today.
Then an ad, he can't even say it.
Many of these dynamics were new in this election, and at a much larger scale than had ever been seen before in history, at a minimum.
Flub.
At a minimum.
Yeah, he threw that in because he was, I don't know, there's something wrong with the prompter.
And at a much larger scale than had ever been seen before in history, at a minimum.
And they were much larger in scale than any of the interference that we have found.
Now, I understand why he's saying this, but it also opens up the door for him.
Because what is against this Russian firm who bought these ads in brubles?
What is against them just handing out one of the 3,000 pieces of creative work and having them post it?
Free!
That's where the multiplier effect comes from.
He said it himself.
Let's go over this again.
Now, he's talking about the viral aspect?
Yes, he's talking about how if...
Yes, I would say it's about virality.
How Facebag bubbles things to the top or can or identifies them, whichever one you want to choose.
And that is a thousand times more powerful than what we're talking about here, which is advertising.
Right.
But the advertising, you can go viral...
I mean, anything can, but it's uncontrollable.
I don't care what anybody thinks.
Right.
So I think on one hand, he's certainly telegraphing how powerful they are.
On the other hand, hey, we know that you may not do it by buying ads.
Maybe you're just going to make memes go viral, and that's bad content.
Can you imagine?
So I crank out, I mean, I did a bunch of memes the other day.
Yeah.
Put them on Twitter.
Yeah.
And none of them took off.
You're a meme machine, my friend.
They're all about no agenda.
So it's like, listen to no agenda.
Yeah, everyone's like, what?
No.
But how do you, those things and memes, of course, we want to differentiate to anybody out there.
Memes and memes.
Memes are a structure that becomes a commonplace idea within the society.
Memes, those images that have a bunch of words on the top and the bottom as a punchline, those have been named memes.
Yes.
But they're not the dictionary definition of a meme.
Right.
And we have to make sure that, so when you hear the word meme being used, you should be able to, in context, know what we're talking about.
I'm just throwing that in, because I've always found it to be annoying that the photos, those pictures with the words on it.
That they're called memes?
That they're called memes.
Oh, you cannot ask a millennial today what a meme is and get a different answer.
They'll have no idea.
I'm not sure that's true.
I'll ask at the dinner table tonight.
Okay.
I'll have four of them here.
All right.
Give it a shot.
Oh, God.
Do we need to get cut out early today so you can rest up?
So I can take some phenobarb.
Yeah.
Bone up.
You're going to need it.
Anyway.
Okay, onward.
Anyway, that was my little point.
I just wanted to make it as an aside.
Yeah, so I think that what he's saying is we're all powerful and we're going to be on the lookout for bad content and we got your number and we're still the place to be if you want anything to seep into the lexicon today.
Yeah, he's probably right.
That's pretty much it.
Pretty much it.
Well, so what we've gotten out of this whole thing is nothing.
No, I mean, it's still a very convenient excuse.
And, you know, Facebag is kind of covered right now.
They are colluding with the government.
This is new.
We've known this since the early days of our show.
Well, they're partially funded by In-Q-Tel.
And they purchased, yes, a spook outfit.
Yeah, that's the easiest way to go.
There's a one-liner that was in person of interest.
kind of creepy TV series that was on, a very good, well-written show, where Finch says, oh yeah, no, he was working for the government at the time that they created Facebook just so the public would donate and give us free intel on themselves so he he was working for the government at the time that they created Facebook just so the public would donate Right.
I always thought it was a funny line.
Which we're doing.
Yeah.
Tease in the B block, I have a little rundown of the Graham-Cassidy bill, for those who are interested.
We took some time this weekend to read it, to mark it up, to tell you what's up, why there's such problems or not.
I have a clip on here, which is short, luckily, that says, NYT reports, then I used the word dream.
I think you mean drone, probably.
That play?
If you want to change topics, this will be a good way to go.
The New York Times reports the Trump administration is preparing to dismantle rules limiting CIA and military drone strikes and commando raids outside of conventional battlefields.
The plan would remove so-called high-level vetting of proposed raids and drone strikes and would allow for the assassination of low-level foot soldiers.
Wait a minute.
They can drone you in New York City now.
Really?
That's what happened to Michael Hastings, right?
Yeah, well that was Los Angeles.
Outside the battlefield.
That's fantastic.
Well, you know, in Euroland...
I wanted to talk about this in just a second.
Because military intelligence has supposedly bumped the CIA out of the White House, which is why we're getting all this great material from the media.
Yeah.
Have you ever thought that maybe the military has always been a little irked by the CIA? A little?
A non-military operation running the drone program?
Yeah.
You'd think.
And now if this comes along, this idea, all this is proving to me, if we're going to go with the basic thesis that we have military intelligence and the CIA battling against each other, This is starting to prove to me that the CIA, as boneheaded as they might be, might be more competent than the military intelligence.
But now the military intelligence folks, they're the ones behind this.
Well, look at who was running the joint, Clapper.
What can you...
Well, Clapper's long gone.
Yeah.
And Clapper had nothing to do with this.
No.
But somebody did.
I mean, who dreamed this idea of?
Let's start just droning people randomly around the world.
Does this make sense to anybody?
Foam finger, number one.
America, yeah.
In Britain, armed special forces troops are being deployed on the underground and have been given shoot-to-kill orders for terrorists.
Oh, no.
Yes, members of SAS and Special Reconnaissance Regiment have been told to target terrorists who are on trains, buses, and planes.
It is believed that some of the troops will patrol the busy tube network in the capital and pairs will be disguised as couples.
They'll be armed with Glock 9mm semi-automatic pistols so they can take down potential gunmen and suicide bombers.
I bet you they're so identifiable, it's hilarious.
Yes, they have the little bag and a bucket bomb.
We all know what they look like.
It's easy.
I hope they're using fragmented ammo in the airplane.
We've gone full military all over the place.
This is fantastic.
Yeah.
It is fantastic.
Oh, man.
So I had listened to Clinton.
She was on Book TV. Oh, our favorite.
I'm surprised I missed it.
Yeah, we played it too.
You probably didn't watch Book TV this weekend.
But Book TV, which is a C-SPAN operation, they had...
Clinton's on the road.
I mean, she is really out there.
And she's changing her story a little bit here and there and different kinds of things she says.
But she...
It was at some giant theater in New York filled with women and a few men.
Grade B men.
Grade B. Our tossaways.
Our tossaways.
And they were just going nuts.
And she had a few things to say that I thought were kind of interesting.
And she talked about...
It's pretty much like an internal memo for us.
But she listed off a slew of new organizations that stemmed from the 2016 loss.
And I think we should just play this.
Clinton listing a slew.
Who are surrounded by good supporters, friends, family, people who can tell you the truth.
Alyssa started off saying she told me it was a terrible idea to write this book.
I am grateful for that because she's a friend.
And you need friends who tell you when things are good and when things aren't so good.
I think it's really important.
So I've got this new organization called Onward Together that I've started.
Woo!
And really, the primary purpose is to support groups that are recruiting young people, especially young women, training them, funding them.
We also highlight and lift up wonderful groups like Indivisible, which is leading the charge to keep our attention where it needs to be.
Like, we've got to stop this latest...
Indivisible, that's the Morgan Freeman group, John.
That's the Rob Reiner group.
We've got to support them!
We've got to support Hollywood actors!
No, no.
The Rob Reiner group is not Indivisible.
Oh, no.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
Who was Indivisible again?
I don't know.
Yeah, we talked about him.
Yeah, I know we did.
We talked about a couple of these groups, but not all of them.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I just want to find out who they were.
Which is leading the charge to...
Keep our attention where it needs to be.
Like, we've got to stop this latest attempt to repeal the Affordable Care Act that is going on.
So, I think there's a lot of good work to be done.
And Onward Together is really interesting because that was you and Howard Dean.
You met with Howard Dean earlier this year, our friend Judith McHale, who were so instrumental in really thinking outside the box about how to bring young people, get them involved, engage them, support them, because...
They know a lot more than people like us.
Well, I mean, it was so great.
After the election, one of the things that kind of, you know, got me out of bed and moving again were the stories I would hear.
People would call and say, oh, there's this new young group that one of your campaign staffers has started called Run for Something, and it's...
Aiming at recruiting more young people.
Or there's a group called Swing Left.
They're going to try to flip the house.
Or a group that I've worked with before, Emerge America, which has a great record of electing women.
Color of Change, which focuses on...
African-American young people, getting them into politics and doing some of that work.
So I felt like there's so much we can do because at the end of the day, and I just have to say this and hope you help me figure out how we're going to make it happen.
Everything we do, we can write books, we can speak out, we can go to protests, we can recruit people to run for office, but if we don't get people to vote, starting in Virginia and New Jersey and then in 2018, we're not going to turn this around!
All about 2018.
It's a part of Act Blue.
All those groups are part of Act Blue, which is kind of a central clearinghouse for these little subgroups.
Color of Change and Emerging.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They handle all of the...
Swing left.
Yeah, they handle all the donations for those outfits.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Well...
Sounds like a bunch of bored people looking for...
You know...
I don't think you can do it with this.
It's scatterbrained to have all these little organizations all kind of trying to do the same thing, which is get more Democrats in in 2018.
That's what it's all about.
And they won't get the vote out.
No.
They won't get the vote out.
They can't do it.
It's just something wrong.
This is fundraising, John.
This is fundraising.
This is fundraising.
Joe Clinton was one of the best.
I've been reading, I haven't read a hell of a lot more since the last time I put it down.
It's not really like a page turner.
I've been reading more of the book, as has Brian Seltzerwater from CNN Reliable Sources, their media deconstruction show.
Turns out the press is at fault.
In the book, she makes a remarkable assertion.
She says that many political reporters, quote, cannot bear to face their own role in helping elect Trump.
For example, by giving her emails so much coverage and by giving him so much airtime.
Are Clinton's critiques fair?
Joining me now, an expert on the Clinton beat, Amy Chosek.
She was the New York Times lead reporter covering Clinton's campaign last year.
She's now on leave from the paper working on a memoir about that experience.
Amy, great to see you.
Is that typical for a young reporter to go on leave to write her book?
Yeah.
From the New York Times?
Yeah, you can do it.
They all do it.
Oh, okay, good.
That experience.
It's like a vacation where it's unpaid.
But you're not fired.
You can always come back when you want.
When you're done with the book.
I usually give them a time frame so the editorial guys can say, okay, she'll be back in May, and we'll cover for her until then.
Thanks for having me.
We need to sit together at the New York Times.
I know a lot of folks in the press have privately talked about what this campaign was like, but do you think she's right, is Clinton right, that there hasn't been enough soul-searching about the press's responsibility?
There it is again.
We haven't done enough soul-searching.
Look, I agree with Hillary Clinton that for an industry that thrives on investigation and interrogating others, we're very bad at scrutinizing ourselves.
And, you know, there definitely could be more soul-searching about our role in 2016.
That said, the way she presents it in the book is a little bit like it was our job to get Hillary Clinton elected.
Now, our job was to inform voters.
What?
It was!
Yeah, you failed.
She's right.
She's paid you millions and millions of dollars for political ads, gives you all the interviews, gives you the access, and you screw it up!
You didn't do your job.
I believe that's what Clinton was saying, and I think the reporters kind of know that.
And you can ask them to a T, especially at the New York Times, they all voted for her.
Mm-hmm.
And yeah, they gave...
Right.
Trump got the...
And still is getting the most coverage.
But it was all negative coverage.
It was all critical.
Trump's an idiot.
Trump did this.
Trump said that.
Trump grabs pussies.
On and on and on.
And...
Now, she's just going by the basic, well, 75% of the coverage was about Trump.
It was all negative coverage about Trump, which is just what you want.
If you're Hillary, you'd think.
No.
As it turns out, there is no bad press.
Yes, that's what the old saying was, and I guess it's true.
Only your obituary, you might consider that as bad press, but otherwise it's all good.
That said, the way she presents it in the book is a little bit like it was our job to get Hillary Clinton elected.
Now, our job is to inform voters...
I like him.
Hmm!
He's acknowledging it!
That was a good catchphrase.
Yes, he's going, hmm, yeah, we did fuck that up, didn't we?
Well, it's a little bit like it was our job to get Hillary Clinton elected.
Now, our job is to inform voters about their choices and how those choices would impact their lives, whether it was about Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump or any other candidate.
And I think that is where we could have done better, and I think we could do some soul-searching.
We can do some soul searching.
What does that even mean?
Soul searching about them not fulfilling their end of the bargain.
I mean, what does it really mean?
How do you do soul searching?
Well, if you do soul searching...
You're looking for your soul?
Well, usually you are looking to answer...
I'm asking this because it's a phrase from the chaise.
Soul searching is a phrase from the chaise.
I don't like the term.
I don't know what it means.
Does it mean you're searching for your soul?
Well, I can give you the definition.
Deep and anxious consideration of one's emotions and motives or of the correctness of a course of action involving or expressing deep consideration.
We can look for the origin of it if you really want to do it.
Can't you just say we need to do some analysis of what we managed to do, what we managed to follow up?
Yeah, but you know, why, what do you care what they say?
It's CNN for Christ's sake.
Sorry, I didn't mean to do that.
Just a phrase from the shades, we have to discuss these once in a while.
First recorded in 1605, but it doesn't say why.
Why?
Why?
I mean, how did you come up with this, people?
Certainly someone knows where this comes from.
Well, 1605 goes way back.
You think?
I think it has to do with some sermons or some biblical stuff that was going on.
Ah, could be.
Because that makes sense, because you used the word soul.
Right.
But in this context, she's saying, you know, we fucked up.
We've got to do some soul-searching about it.
That's how you use the term.
Not that you're going to be punished, but...
And you're never really going to admit it, but I'll do some soul searching.
Okay?
I'll do better next time.
I think that's what is implied.
And you're right.
It was their job to get her elected and they failed.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Well, as C stands for Clinton C-SPAN Watcher Dvorak.
Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning to all boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the names of nights out there.
Yes, in the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com, at least those of you who can, who are not on iOS 11, although I guess we'll put another proper link in there for the new broken thing that Apple broke.
Thank you very much.
And in the morning to Nick the Rat, who brought us, really one of, the more I look at it, the more I think it's one of our best album art covers ever.
Which is Hillary in the polar bear suit with the Trump tag.
It really is a nice piece of work.
I mean, I almost want that on my wall.
It's the Trump tag that made it.
That does it, yes.
That really does it.
Because you're going to go out and tag polar bears with Putin.
It can have so many meanings.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah.
Uh...
He gets inspired once in a while.
It's very fun to watch.
And when Nick is firing on all cylinders, he's really good.
He's pretty hard to beat.
I mean, we're kind of grooming him to take over the show, aren't we?
Can you imagine?
Yeah, I can actually.
That he does his show up.
Let's thank a few people who have supported us.
Yeah, let's do that.
Let's start with, we got three associate executive producers, but no instant nights or anything, so it wasn't really a good showing, considering we had a gimmick going on.
Yeah, which also failed miserably, I see.
Well, it failed, but didn't fail.
We got some people.
Well, we lived.
They played along.
The world didn't end.
We lived.
Matthew Trimble, though, came in from Camp Hill, Pennsylvania at $333.33, and he said in a very lengthy PDF file, which I'll read part of, My donation at 333 serves a couple of purposes.
You see, back on the 26th of June, my family's home caught on fire and burned to the ground.
We lost everything, and to make matters worse, it was the day my wife immigrated to the United States.
We got married on the 23rd of October, 2015, down in her home country of Dominica, a small former British colony, not to be confused with the Dominican Republic, and began, it just got hit.
I think Dominica got blasted.
Yeah, this is a horrible, horrible thing.
They have a good bay rum.
And began jumping through the hoop so she can come up with and live with me after a year and a half of painstaking paperwork, which Adam would know about.
Tell me about it.
You just come in through the border, the Mexican border, stay.
Yeah.
It's much better.
And government red tape, cheaper.
Cheaper, yeah.
Get away with stuff.
We finally had our immigration interview on the 27th of March and was approved for residency a few days later.
We purchased our tickets to arrive on June 26th.
We drove back from JFK Airport to a small town in Pennsylvania, only to discover that the baseboard heater shorted out and burned our home to the ground.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
We spent the next two months in a hotel struggling with the insurance company, but finally on August 15th, we received a check from the insurance company, and we moved into a brand-new townhouse three days later.
During that whole struggle, the people of NoAgendaSocial.com were amazingly supportive, sending money, items, and huge amounts of karma.
They helped out more than I could say with much more than material things so So first and most importantly, I want to say thank you to all the people who donated money to the GoFundMe that a fellow NoAgendaSocial.com citizen started for the family.
How about that?
This is my first ever donation.
I need a thorough de-douching.
Yes, here it comes.
You've been de-douched.
I have freeloaded off your superb mental hygiene product for over three years now, and after the amazing things that have happened to me recently because of no agenda, I realized I was being a complete douchebag for not donating sooner.
And by the way, he wants some mother boarding pass.
Yeah, mothership boarding pass, yes.
He's the third of the way to knighthood.
He's going to reserve the name, sir, and he's got a name, Knight of Dominica.
Well, it's Domani.
Well, he has a pronunciation guide for us.
Yeah, I didn't pronounce it.
Wait, you just talked over.
Domani Hattu, I think.
Okay.
Hold on.
Listen again.
What is not playing?
Here we go.
Domani Hattu.
Domani Hattu.
Okay, we got it.
Domani Hattu.
Okay.
Lastly, I'd like to call out Mike Metesky as a douchebag because he hit me in the mouth.
Because he hit me in the mouth, it's fine.
In 2014, it's never donated.
Also, Stephen Trimble.
Oh, yes.
Douchebag.
My little brother, because I hit him in the mouth about a year and a half ago, and he's freeloading, too.
Thank you for your courage, respectfully, Matthew.
Oh, man.
Big karma to you and everybody who helped you out to...
They're at NoAgendaSocial.com.
That's cool.
I'm happy that happened.
You've got karma.
Another No Agenda happy story.
Except for the burnt houses.
Well, there's that.
Sir Thomas of Great Bay, $333.
Donation from Sir Thomas.
I recently bought a 1985 Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL. Which, by the way, even as an old used car, is a nice ride.
Is that the Bobby Ewing car?
Is that the convertible, the sports car?
It might be.
I think it is.
And while driving at home, I noticed that the 500 series is just all good cars.
While driving at home, I noticed that the trip odometer became stuck at 333.33 miles.
It means he has to donate, and he did.
That's the rule, by the way, just so you know.
It's the rule.
It's the rule.
It's the total rule.
Anyway, it was some karma for a new human resource.
Yes.
You've got karma.
Oystein Berge.
Oystein Berge, yes.
Close enough.
Rotterdam.
$333.
Good evening, gentlemen.
Thank you for being our guardians of this reality.
And JNK, get on with the show.
No jingles, no karma.
Bingo, boom, shakalaka.
Joe Bisesi in Copley, Ohio, 293.23.
He'll be associate executive producer for show 7.967.
Fantastic show, guys.
Donation letters sent to Adam.
It's been great listening to the past few months, especially since the recent Hillary butt slam.
Since you're one of the few truth casts out there, I feel another contribution is well deserved.
For Adam's sake, here's my clip requests.
Geez, I should have read this before, I guess.
He wants Hillary, cough, cough, and then bullshit.
Geez.
I gotta find all that.
My donation of 293.25 is a triple boob, 80.08 times 3, mainly for my pregnant wife, whose boobs have grown by about 1.5 time factor.
But also for the chick with the three jugs from Total Recall.
That's a Peter Griffin quote.
Plus $53 for a belated birthday wish for Adam.
Plus a penny for the jar.
Please keep the pregnancy karma coming.
It's working well as our soon-to-be-new human resource.
And my wife continued to grow.
We recently canceled our cable subscription because I no longer believe in giving huge corporations a ton of money every month for crappy customer service.
I also used to think that the nickname for TV, the idiot box, was a derogation against the watcher.
But since I've been listening to the show more, I realize it comes from the idiots who project from inside the box.
Plus, I'd rather support podcasters over Comcasters.
Nice.
When you guys were recently discussing it, the new media never follows up with any of their stories.
It got me thinking as to why.
I believe this is because they don't want to follow up and give the real story because it allows them to go back and use the partial story and resultant memes to their advantage.
You can't rewrite history if you never reported correctly in the first place.
Please write that down.
Keep up the great work.
Keep hitting people in the mouth.
Thank God for the Electoral College.
Joe Bisesi, future surreal Ohio groan.
Then he's almost there at his knighthood.
So if you can just give me a second and fill for me.
I'll see if I can find these jingles for him.
Okay.
In fact, you know what I might want to do?
I might want to play a little tune on the recorder.
I'm going to play Jingle Bells.
Thank you.
.
Damn!
That was very good.
Nailed it.
Almost there.
Hold on.
Ah, here we go.
I kind of have what he wants.
Hillary Clinton.
I'm Hillary Clinton, and I approve this message.
There's just a lot of evidence that his behavior has been...
You've got karma.
I can't find a decent Hillary cough anymore.
Well, we had, I think, a medley.
Yeah, we have a mix.
Yeah, the whole mix, but not a short one.
Yeah, we'll find it.
It hasn't been requested for so long it's gotten lost in the shuffle.
Sorry about that.
Cole Candler, Parts Unknown, $250 in the USA. Adam and John, too long since last donation.
Great shows.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Leslie Cook, 23456.
I don't know where she's from either.
My testimonial.
The quick, quick job karma works.
The quick, quick job karma works.
I am compelled to donate again.
I can get enough of Adam's...
I can't get enough is what she meant.
Unless it says that.
It says that.
Yes, it actually says that.
They got a squirrel problem.
Of course.
Cursor.
Adam's reading the pigeon news.
If it is not too much trouble for the jingles, I would like a service goat scream.
This seems to relieve stress when I hear it.
No agenda, swine flu minute.
That's another one.
Yeah.
This is not my favorite jingle, but it has been stuck in my head for the past week and a half.
Finally, some karma would be much appreciated.
Love and light.
Some life karma, no less.
Of course.
Ah!
I just realized she called it the service goat jingle.
I like that a lot.
You've got karma.
*Ding* Service goat.
It's a service goat.
That's the no agenda service goat.
Carter Pelham, $209.12.
Thanks for putting out the best podcast in the universe and giving me the rare opportunity to hit my dad Larry Pelham in the mouth, which I did a couple years ago.
He's been a faithful listener ever since, and he celebrated his birthday on September 12th.
He's on the list, I believe.
This donation will contribute towards his eventual knighthood, which is the least I can do for a great man and a great influence in my life and in many others.
Please give him some cybersecurity pew pews, two to the head, LGY, and then a birthday karma.
You've got karma.
Okay, and now we go to...
This is funny.
Why would it do that?
I have no idea.
You've had such issues with your Libra office and your trackball.
I use a mouse, even though they're doomed.
Carolyn Blaney.
They are, I concur.
There's no evidence people want them anymore.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
I gotta tell you, on the Chromebook, which I've been using almost all the time, I find myself using touchscreen a lot.
It's really an interesting experience.
Even for scrolling, you know, it's so much easier to just kind of scroll through the side of the screen.
In some situations, I will admit it, with a laptop, if you have a touchscreen, you can actually get around very quickly.
It's dynamite.
Yeah, I'm not arguing that.
Carolyn Blaney in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
$203.33.
We have a lot of associate executives for this show, which I find highly amusing.
Hey John and Adam, thank you for your courage and service.
Hearing Adam quoting from Hillary's book where she quotes from On Tyranny by Tim Snyder.
Tim Snyder's book was irksome and I was triggered to donate to the show.
Along with my donation of 20333, I want to give a shout out to everyone in the war room.
Sewer Chat.
Hashtag Sewer Chat.
I'm not sure what that is.
That's Nick the Rat.
Oh, that's Nick's thing.
Yeah, yeah.
He has his own channel on our server.
Actually, it's Void Zero's server.
Yes, Void Zero does all the hard...
He does the heavy lifting.
The warm sewer chat, no agenda social, and to Nicaragua.
Please wish my sister Candace a happy birthday as she turns to Big 3-0.
Jared Zafeman, $203, without the 33 cents, and he appears to be in Canada.
And Carolyn was in Ontario, Canada, so we have a lot of Canadians today.
Okay.
Okay.
ITM, guys.
Quick shout-out to John.
I couldn't agree with you more about my new Volt.
Your insights are greatly appreciated.
In other words, he bought a Volt, loves it.
It's the only one of these cars that I'd buy.
I encourage all listeners to contribute to the show when you can.
We need you guys more than ever.
I think that's nice.
Why don't you give them a gratuitous karma?
No problem.
You've got karma.
And that includes our list, the wonderful list of executive and associate executive producers for show 967.
Yes, indeed.
And we do have another show coming up next Thursday.
We need your help then.
Yes, dvorak.org slash NA for our show coming up on Thursday.
This is our value for value model, and the way we do it is if you think there's some value.
You know, we went to Kingsman last night.
Oh, you saw the new movie?
Yes, in IMAX. Did you see the original movie?
I did.
Okay, good.
But I think you have to see the first movie to really...
To really appreciate it, yes.
Yeah, I'm guessing.
I haven't seen the second movie, but I'm guessing.
And it was IMAX, but here's a good tip if you live in Austin, or if you're in Austin, the Bullock Museum, which is the Texas State Museum, has an IMAX theater.
And it's been there for probably 10 years, maybe?
Bullocks.
But no one used to go to it because they did not allow any food or drink.
Now, they still don't have alcohol, but you can get, you know, soft drink and popcorn.
And it's a small theater.
I think it's 121 seats, maybe.
The sound is unbelievable.
And it's just, it's an all-around fantastic experience.
They play the Kingsman Part II in the museum?
In the museum IMAX theater, yeah.
Wow.
That must have been cool, because when you're in a small venue with that giant screen, it's quite impressive.
I like the movie very much.
I think the James Bond franchise was set to be upended.
I think it's done well.
This is the new one.
They've got a franchise.
They've got all kinds of Delton Johns in this.
It's very funny.
Very, very funny.
It's $16.
Tina took me out.
$32.
I really enjoyed it.
But, you know...
Maybe three hours of no agenda is equal to that kind of entertainment.
Maybe it's more, maybe it's less.
That's how we want you to think about it.
So now you get three hours.
Yes.
Yeah, but we do that twice a week.
It's like going to the movie twice a week.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, wait a minute.
We do it like, but it's different every time.
Yeah, it's not the same movie.
And we have surround sound.
Surround sound.
And now we're gluten-free.
Yes, and we're gluten-free.
Remember us for Thursday's show, please.
That's right, you've got a new angle.
Hey, I'm going to propagate the formula.
It's gluten-free!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizen.
Shut up!
Wait a minute!
Oh, man.
Tina's cooking something.
I can smell it.
I'm really hungry.
It smells like potatoes being cooked.
They're being cooked.
Hey, so I promised I have a little rundown of the Graham-Cassidy bill.
For those of you who are interested, it's kind of a fun little circus that's taking place once again here.
The bill is not very different from anything I've seen coming out of the Republican camp.
But there are just a couple things I want to run down to see what the objections may be.
And it turns out that not only will Murkowski from Alaska probably not vote yes, although she's now being put under pressure, And even though it's the Graham-Cassidy bill, Lindsey Graham, one half of the introducers, who is butt-buddies with John McCain, McCain is just not having any of it.
Breaking news in the 11th hour Republican effort to overturn Obamacare.
Senator John McCain says he will vote no on the new bill being considered.
He is a no on the Graham-Cassidy health care bill.
It puts him at odds with Senator Lindsey Graham, who's often been one of his fiercest allies.
In the Senate.
Arizona Senator John McCain says he will not vote for the Graham-Cassidy bill.
He just issued a statement saying in part, quote, I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal.
He cites the need for regular order and hearings on the bill.
He also said that he needed to see what it was going to cost, which I found very odd because the numbers are in the bill.
As of 2020, $136 billion.
And the way this works, the idea behind the Graham-Cassidy bill is the federal government is going to provide up to $200 billion in 2026 to the states for them to implement their own local markets, local insurance markets.
So that's being done away with this, you know, the...
It's racketeering, really, where insurance companies have regions and they're not allowed to compete in any of those regions.
So the money's right there.
I have thoughts, and we'll get to that in a minute, why I think he's voting no, or he says he's going to vote no.
But let's just look at this bill for a second, just a few things that pop up, because no one's discussing what's in it.
I don't understand, once again.
Jimmy Kimmel's got a big hard-on about it, about pre-existing conditions.
It's pretty much what we've seen with some noteworthy exceptions or things that jump out.
So we have, any individual who is overpaid in premium tax credits would have to repay the entire excess amount.
I'm not quite sure where that's in there, but it's right at the top.
Is there a problem with people getting paid too much in credits?
Not that I know of, but it's possible.
I don't know either.
Section 103, this was expected, modification repeal of the small business health insurance tax credit.
So that's being taken away.
The individual mandate penalty is being removed and makes it zero dollars retroactive to 2016.
So if you paid in 2016, you'll get your money back.
Same for the employer mandate.
There's a new subsection that would help create the market-based program And that would have funding available to all 50 states and the District of Columbia as of 2020 through 2026.
Under the program, a state would be required to submit an application to get this money.
So it's a lot of billions of dollars.
And they have to follow the format of the grant, and they will only be able to use the payments allocated from the program for one of the following activities.
One is to establish or maintain a program mechanism to help high-risk individuals purchase health benefits coverage, including by reducing premiums for such individuals who have or are projected to have high health care utilization as measured by cost and who do not have access to employer-sponsored insurance.
So there's wording in there, although we don't know the criteria.
That would stop pre-existing conditions.
Establish and maintain a program to enter into arrangements with health insurance issuers.
So that's your market, your local market.
To provide payments for health care providers for the provision of services specified by the CMS administrator.
So we can go directly to federal government-approved providers of health care, not insurance, but health care.
Also to provide health insurance coverage by funding assistance to reduce out-of-pocket costs.
So co-pay, co-insurance, deductibles for individuals with individual health care insurance.
So that's going to help.
To establish or maintain a program or mechanism to help individuals purchase health benefits coverage, including by reducing premium costs for plans offered to the individual market.
And up to 20% of the funds can be used to provide health insurance coverage for individuals who are eligible for medical assistance under a state plan by establishing or maintaining relationships with health insurance issuers.
So it seems like states, here's your money.
As long as you qualify, then you can take everything.
CHIP will be kept in place, the Child Healthcare Insurance Program.
If the state chooses to provide coverage with policies of actual...
We don't need to talk about that.
And the final thing, which was very clear in this, they could have just said, no, none of this money will go to Planned Parenthood.
No.
Instead, they have this whole paragraph about what the money specifically may not be used for.
And let me see if I can find it here.
Here we go.
Prohibited entity.
Here, federal payment to states.
Prohibits federal funds made available to a state through direct spending for being provided to an entity as defined.
One, designated as a not-for-profit organization by the IRS, so none of the money can go to nonprofits.
I think that's Planned Parenthood.
Two, if the entity is described as an essential community provider that is primarily engaged in family planning services, reproductive health, and related medical care, you cannot have that money, Planned Parenthood.
Three, if the entity is an abortion provider that provides abortion in cases that do not meet the Hyde Amendment except for federal payment, and if it received more than $1 million in Medicaid expenditures, both federal and state, In fiscal year 2014, well, they received about $600 million over there at Planned Parenthood.
Then, something new.
Optional work requirements.
States effective October 1st, 2017, can require non-disabled, non-elderly, non-pregnant individuals to satisfy a work requirement as a condition for receipt of Medicaid medical assistance.
How about that, slave?
Get to working.
What?
Are you listening at all?
Have you just tuned out?
Yeah.
Well, they can make you work for it.
Yeah, they should.
As long as you're not elderly.
When does elderly start?
They should define it in the bill.
That's a good point.
I don't see a definition.
Hmm.
Well, there must be an overriding definition.
Let's try that.
Legal definition of elderly.
Now, just reading through this, I think we get the idea.
Here we go.
Legal definition, 60 years of age.
That's elderly.
Yeah, Tom Brady will still be quarterbacked when he's elderly.
Do I have a thought about John McCain after this report, which was done a couple days ago?
The senator first learned he had a problem in Arizona back in July when doctors found a blood clot over his left eye after a routine checkup at the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix.
He was driving back to the ranch when he got word.
I was driving up here, and I got about two-thirds of the way up, and my doctor called and said, you've got to come back.
And I said, hey, today is Friday.
I'll just come in on Monday.
And she said, no, you have to come now.
It's very serious.
You turned the car around and went immediately into surgery?
Yes.
They thought it was serious enough that they had to act immediately.
And before the blood clot operation, did they mention glioblastoma to you?
Yes, but as you know, doctors are interesting.
They cover themselves.
I kept saying to them, tell it to me straight.
Well, there's always this, there's always that, you know.
And I said, I can take it.
Just tell me.
And then they were more forthcoming.
Interesting that the Mayo Clinic wasn't forthcoming.
That seems odd.
Yeah, I wonder what that was all about.
Well, here's the information I received over the weekend.
Secondhand from one of our intelligence sources, which this person says the person received it from very high up in the Pentagon, the expectations are not that McCain will make it through the rest of the year.
Okay.
And it's possible that he just wants to go out a hero.
A hero to someone doesn't give a crap who he's a hero to.
So he's just going to butt Trump?
I think so.
I think so.
I see no reason under his argument why he can't vote yes.
I'm not saying this is the bill you want to, this needs to pass or anything, but his arguments don't make sense.
Yeah, he wants to wait for the CBO to see if the numbers are right.
He wants to buck Trump.
Yeah, and go out a hero.
The information I got, the source I got...
He doesn't like Trump.
He didn't like Trump ever since Trump called him a phony.
Yeah.
And our heroes don't get captured thing.
Right.
That really galled him.
Because the guy has been a senator forever.
I think he's corrupt, you know, as we continue to believe since...
Since the 2008 election.
And him and Lindsey Graham, they've got something to do with the Pentagon.
But I can see where he would find that incredibly offensive.
You know, you didn't get tortured where you can't lift your arms up.
Yeah.
He's thinking to himself when Trump makes a snide remark.
Seeing as I got this from Pentagon sources through the military, the military does not feel this way about him.
They feel very differently.
They feel that he was...
He appeared on the Tokyo Rose radio show 30 times.
It wasn't Tokyo Rose.
I think it was.
Tokyo Rose, that's World War II. I may be wrong.
He was on some radio show.
What was the other radio show?
Hanoi Holly.
Something like that.
Yes, that's what it was.
No, I think it was Tokyo Rose.
No, Tokyo Rose was dead.
Tokyo Rose was World War II. You got your wars mixed up.
I'm going to find...
Yeah?
Who says...
Okay.
He's in the Korean War.
I hear you.
I know he's in the Vietnam War.
I get corrected on that every time I say anything.
What I have is John McCain's 1969 Tokyo Rose recordings.
Maybe it's in quotes, so maybe it wasn't.
I don't know.
It definitely wasn't Tokyo Rose.
That would be really weird.
I know Tokyo's in Japan.
I know this.
Well, who was it then?
Who was the...
Let's find out.
Radio propaganda Vietnam woman.
Well, you never...
While you're looking that up, finish with your little...
Hanoi Hannah.
It must have been Hanoi Hannah.
Yeah, Hanoi Hannah.
Hanoi, Hannah.
We're good.
Took everyone a fucking half hour to get there.
We're there.
I think it was just a plain half hour.
Hanoi Hannah.
He was on there 32 times.
Look, I don't know.
I haven't investigated this.
You never finished a sentence.
The military thinks what?
They don't like him.
I did finish the sentence.
They don't think that highly of him is what I said.
Okay.
I finished the sentence.
No, I interrupted you in the middle of finishing the sentence because you said the military because he was on Tokyo Rose.
I said the military doesn't feel that way about him.
Yeah, you said that, but that doesn't mean...
When you say they didn't feel that way, I can assume that they hate him or they love him more than anything.
They hate him.
Okay, there you go.
Jeez.
Well, who likes him?
The Democrats!
The Millennial Kids!
Yes!
Open your eyes, man!
Look at the kids.
They love him.
Oh, John McCain is such a sweet guy.
Because he's now on their side.
He loves this.
He's the white Maxine Waters.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Well, I'm not a big fan.
Oh, we're not big fans at all.
So I'm in there with the military on this one.
But not because he was on hand-to-hand.
I just think, just forget all that.
Just look at his record and what he does and what he votes for and what he says.
And he's a warmonger.
I don't know who he's trying to appeal to except for the munitions people.
He's going out.
He's dying.
He knows it.
If he wants to go out, a true hero.
That's why I'm trying to...
That doesn't make him a true hero, just to buck Trump.
Rob Reiner is a true hero, then.
I mean, everybody's bucking Trump, so I don't know what...
If you look around...
Tonight at your dinner, ask your millennials what they think of John McCain.
Okay, what was the other one?
I'm going to ask them something else.
Oh, jeez.
You didn't write that down?
I'm writing it down now.
Yeah, this is why you don't get the list.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
There's a reference nobody gets.
I don't remember.
Oh, The Handmaid's Tale.
Was it something about that?
Ask about...
The Handmaid's Tale.
Oh, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes.
Memes, memes.
Ask about McCain and memes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, this is how we do the show, ladies and gentlemen.
Dad lived.
No.
Definition of memes.
Okay, I got both these down.
Now they're written down.
I'm in good shape.
Well, while we're on memes, have you seen the cover of Rolling Stone magazine and the cover of Newsweek this week?
No.
Well, Rolling Stone always has great illustrations.
And they have...
They're good artists.
Trump...
Not as good as our artists.
No.
Oh, no, we're much better.
Trump in Rolling Stone style, on top of a wall with barbed wire and burning tiki torches, yelling...
And the title is The Madness of Donald Trump by Matt Taibbi, which is a must-read.
It's so unhinged.
And Newsweek has a profile of Trump, kind of backlit, and their headline is, Insane in the Membrane!
How the right lost its mind, sold its soul, and embraced Donald Trump.
So they're pushing the crazy meme again.
The insane.
How many times are they going to recycle some of these ideas?
Until 2018!
Jerry?
It's like a playlist, a rotation.
Yeah, it's a playlist.
You put it on shuffle from time to time.
Maybe mix it up.
Alright, now we've spotted these sort of things before.
We did it with the six-week cycle.
Let's try to figure out what the rotation is.
And I'll bet you we can predict the next one.
We can't do it right now, but I think now that we can start thinking about it, we'll be able to predict.
The next meme they throw at us because we've seen the rotation before.
Then I believe it's time to get back to he's a pig towards women.
So the grabbing by the pussy has to come back.
Something along...
We need a new pussy tape.
I'm going to have to look back on the way these memes are rolled out and we'll have to see what the cycle looks like.
And I'll bet you you're going to see it.
And it's probably...
And by the way, it's so far away we're going to get the insanity thing again.
I'll bet you that comes near the 2018 book.
Near the end, yes.
Near the end.
You were talking about Hillary's book.
Book.
I said book.
Book.
And her book is responsible for the following segment on The View.
Very sad day.
Very, very sad day on The View.
Jedediah, who, she's the resident libertarian slash not bot, trying to straddle universes person.
She's gone.
They fired her.
They fired her, yes.
Why?
I'm going to tell you exactly.
After we listened to...
It's just a beautiful moment.
Whenever you're in television, and both John and I have worked extensively in the field, both on the presenting, production, writing, directing side, all of it.
We're all-rounders.
Yeah.
And what do we got to show for it?
Podcasting.
Podcasting.
At least we got some fault that most people don't.
No, that's right.
And as you'll hear, because when you hear someone who is allowed to say goodbye on the air, that's not very typical.
She's allowed to say goodbye and just listen to...
That's unusual.
Listen to how obvious it is that she was fired.
Welcome back.
Jed, you got the floor.
So, this is my last day at The View.
Hello.
Yeah, and I want to thank these ladies.
What you don't know about us is that these ladies, we're really friends.
Sunny's text, I mean, Sarah, Whoopi, you're my inspiration.
Joy, when I need comedic relief, this is where I go.
So we're going to be friends no matter what.
But I want to thank you because I'm a little eccentric, and you put up with me, and this has been just an amazing journey, and I appreciate all of you.
I want to thank the viewers, even the ones that write me the hate tweets.
You know, this is what I'm here for.
I'm there to shake things up in life and television.
And I have a book that I'm writing with HarperCollins right now.
Do you have a title?
I don't have a title yet.
That's always a giveaway.
You're full of shit.
I'm writing a book.
That's why I'm leaving.
I don't have a title yet.
It's an amazing concept that I think is going to really shake up the world, especially the millennial generation.
Oh, yeah.
I'm super excited about that.
That will be coming out next year.
So I'm working...
It's insanely on that.
And I have a lot of opportunities to consider now and figure out, piled up to here.
And I will be spending a little bit of time doing that.
But you should stay tuned because there's some good stuff on the way.
I just have to map it out a little bit.
And I'm getting married.
That's very interesting.
I think it's Joy that makes sense to me when I tell you what went down.
I think she's the one that's saying, and you're getting married, because that was the agreement.
You're going to be able to say goodbye.
Just say you're getting married.
Life's changing.
You've got all kinds of other stuff to do.
She forgot to mention that at the beginning, so Joy plugs it in there.
Drop it out a little bit.
And you're getting married.
And I'm getting married.
That's different, though.
LAUGHTER You know, this has been a really great experience.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here's what happened.
This happened during the Hillary Clinton interview.
And here is a, this comes from an email of someone on the inside who explains exactly what went down.
The entire day was very tightly scripted.
Remember how we discussed this, that this show is completely scripted?
And it doesn't even sound that way, but we were sure of it.
We know this happens all the time.
I don't think the viewers know at all.
There's a lot of well-scripted, well-acted shows, and it's almost like you can kind of...
Well, the McLaughlin Group was famous.
The McLaughlin Report was one of them, and it's actually kind of hard to spot, because it seems like they're talking.
Yeah.
Well, it got spotted during this one.
The entire day was very tightly scripted.
We had worked with Hillary's team to create a list of approved questions.
Each question was assigned to a specific cast member to be asked in a specific order.
Everyone knew exactly when to ask the question, what Hillary's answer was going to be.
Yes, we knew the answers in advance.
When to laugh and when to be serious.
Completely scripted.
Who are you reading?
Who wrote this?
This is the email that came from inside the production.
Okay, go.
Like I said, totally scripted.
Everybody was warned not to go off script for any reason.
During the interview, Jedediah went off script.
That threw everybody off.
Hillary was annoyed.
You know who was even more annoyed?
Joy Behar because she didn't get to ask all of the questions that she was assigned.
So Joy demanded a meeting with the producers.
Afterward, we were told that Joy demanded that Jedediah get fired and the producers agreed.
Jedediah and Whoopi were not at the meeting and were called later to be informed of what happened.
The next day, Whoopi was going nuts.
She was yelling about everything.
She was mad she wasn't invited to the meeting or included in a decision.
She was mad that Joy had made such a stink about not getting to ask all her questions.
She was mad that producers let Joy have so much power in getting Jedediah fired and She was also mad at Jedediah for going off script in the first place.
She was yelling in the hallway, I told her not to go there, stupid bitch!
So that's pretty much it.
So that's pretty much it.
The big thing is...
That the Hillary people had really called them ABC on this.
They were very pissed off.
And so when Joy came in and she was pissed off, then it was, you know what, we'll just fire her.
We'll get rid of her.
Well, you know, the rules are the rules.
Yeah, and Whoopi and Joy are at war with each other, apparently.
That could start a war, exactly what you described.
Every bit of it makes nothing but sense to me.
Can't wait to see what goes down.
Well, too bad we can't get the Hillary thing, which has got to be online somewhere, and see what she said that was off script, because we can figure it out.
I think she just asked something out of context.
I didn't go look for it.
I just believe the...
I trust that email in this case.
No, I believe the email, but I would like to still see the...
What it was.
Someone will do that for us.
We've got tons of producers out there with time on their hands.
So, well, there you go.
There you have it.
I wonder who they're going to replace her with.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Who can that be?
I'm available.
Somebody who follows the rules.
I'm available.
Someone who does what she's told.
I can follow the rules.
Yeah, put you in there.
And I bring, you know, my podcast audience to the table.
I don't know about this, but it's all women.
Well, never mind.
Maybe it makes some sense.
No, I don't think so.
Wow.
Good one.
Catch of the day.
Catch of what?
You get a clip of the day, but...
Nah, don't get it.
Catch of the day.
Okay.
Well, let's go to North Korea and talk a little bit about what's going on because this is getting funny because of the new word that we've got into lexicon.
Well, let's go with Trump versus North Korea, CBS. Yes.
What do you mean, Rocketman?
For North Korea had its say at the U.N. General Assembly in New York City, escalating its war of words with President Trump.
Here's Paul Reed.
None other than Trump himself is on a suicide mission.
Responding to President Trump's UN speech last week, North Korea's Minister of Foreign Affairs addressed the UN Saturday.
What else could be a bigger threat than the violent remarks such as pouring, fire and fury, total destruction coming from the top authority of the world's biggest nuclear power?
On Friday, North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un described President Trump as a mentally deranged dotard.
Rocket man should have been handled a long time ago.
At a campaign rally in Alabama later that same day, President Trump continued the escalating war of words.
He may be smart, he may be strategic, and he may be totally crazy.
But you know what?
No matter what he is, we're going to handle it, folks.
On Twitter, he denounced Mr.
Kim as a madman.
That was a horrible, horrible thing that happened to the Republican Party.
The president is also engaged in a battle within his own party.
Yeah, now I remember the word.
Yes, I like it.
It's a good word.
Yeah, but how's it pronounced?
She said dotard.
I thought it was dotard or dootard.
I would say dotard.
Dotard.
I thought it was dotard.
Well, let's look it up.
Let's do a little work.
Well, I did look it up.
Sorry, this one.
Consultants, people.
It actually has the two words separated.
Do-turd.
No, I think do-turd.
It's not turd, it's tard.
Look at the...
Well, hold on.
Here's the pronunciation.
So it says turd?
Hold on.
I have the pronunciation here.
Then it would be do-turd.
Oh, let's check it out.
Let's check it out.
Do-turd.
Do-turd.
So she was right, but to me, I would say do-tard.
Well, that's what you would do.
And it is an old person, especially one who has become weak or senile, which would be the tard part.
Sorry, we're referring to the root, I don't know if it's Greek or Latin, of tard meaning tardy.
Slow.
Retarded.
Yeah.
Anyway, I love the word.
It's great.
I've never heard it before, but apparently the North Koreans use it.
There was a whipsaw in there.
That's what I wonder.
Is there a word in Korean that they use a lot for people like that?
I don't know.
With their leadership, I would think that they do.
But let's just be honest.
Kim Jong-un is a racist prick.
I mean, an ageist prick.
Yeah, he is.
That's, I mean, no one's calling him out on that.
Although he doesn't seem to, who knows who wrote, who put that into the lecture.
I have no trust whatsoever in this news report.
In that CBS report was another example of my pet peeve in news reporting, which I'm calling the whipsaw for now, which is you say one thing and then you exemplify it with a quote that has nothing to do with it.
We're going to handle it, folks.
On Twitter, he denounced Mr.
Kim as a madman.
That was a horrible, horrible thing that happened to the Republican Party.
What?
Yeah, you missed it.
That was real...
No.
Why did he put...
First time.
The whole thing was crazy.
Everybody misses these.
Let me play it again.
They're designed to be missed.
But I didn't miss it.
I just want to hear it again.
We're going to handle it, folks.
On Twitter, he denounced Mr.
Kim as a madman.
That was a horrible, horrible thing that happened to the Republican Party.
Of course.
What she said is, this is what he said on Twitter, but that's not what he said on Twitter.
No.
They do this all the time.
CBS is the worst for this.
All the networks do it.
But they do this constantly.
And I'm now, in this case, this is a little more advanced.
Doing the Twitter thing?
Yeah, I hadn't heard that version of it.
I like it.
This is so different than what he said on Twitter.
They jump the topic completely and go into something different.
But they connect them.
And I think the idea is to do association with the bad, bad Trump and the Republican Party.
I just think it was kind of a stretch.
Yeah, but it worked.
It was undetectable almost.
It was a good catch.
When you listen to the whole thing, as an ISO, it's obvious.
But when you listen to the whole thing, most of these are undetectable.
Unless you're like me, I'm not looking for anything else but these.
I know.
Because they do them so much.
Yeah.
And Whipsaw is the best I have for it.
No, we've already agreed Whipsaw is good.
Well, some more on North Korea.
Right now, we're flying around.
We're doing our little flybys, our little, hey, look at my penis thing.
Flying our U.S. bombers off the coast.
But I've always been taught and I've always said, probably mentioned on the show, you never have to really be worried about anything until they start bringing back the diplomats, mainly, and they close the embassy.
And so we have not seen that yet.
What we did see is they stopped all internships, so no new internships at the South Korean embassy, which is only 30 miles away from, you know, from the demilitarized zone.
It's not that far.
Yeah.
Well, it's in the range of howards.
Yeah.
But...
U.S. families in South Korea, military families, or diplomatic families, got fake orders to leave South Korea.
Which caused a lot of consternation because everyone else knows, hey, until we're being sent home, there's nothing wrong.
And somehow these fake orders started going around and people were like, oh crap, we gotta go.
Now they were fake.
No one has issued these orders.
But I just thought that was interesting that that happened.
Who thinks of doing that?
Only someone who knows what it means, I presume.
So it's an interesting troll.
So I have that to check out.
I think I made a mistake when I said the howitzer has a 30 mile range.
Well, okay.
I'm looking it up.
I'm sure there's cannons that can shoot 30 miles, but I'm not sure it's a howitzer.
What is the range of a howitzer?
Answers.com.
Oh, my favorite website.
Click to see answer.
Thank you very much.
Why don't you just give me the answer?
I've got to show you an ad.
Oh, no.
No, it's worse than that.
It's a slideshow.
Oh, yes.
My favorite.
Slide one.
The Howitzer is a classic gun with many different variants.
You need to be more.
No word.
Yeah.
Now you click on the slideshow.
Specific, but a range of an M770 is 30.1 kilometers.
Okay.
That's pretty far.
Kilometers.
It's 20 miles, I guess.
Or 15 miles.
No, 20.
Is there something else?
Anyway, onward.
I don't know if you wanted to do anything.
There's two things we had on the list.
Shorting orange juice and the Emmys.
Oh yes, I want to correct.
I want to make a couple on shorting orange juice.
I don't know what I was thinking.
I talked about it with Horowitz.
You didn't want a short orange juice.
You wanted to go long on futures because there was going to be a shortage.
And I think there was going to be a shortage of orange juice and the word short, I got scrambled and I said short orange juice.
So that was a blunder.
And we got two or three nasty notes about it.
You should know better.
I should know better.
I should know better.
I do technical analysis.
I don't do fundamentals.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
I've got my Fort and my MA crossovers.
I've got it all set up.
So let's...
LucasMath, by the way.
LucasMath, yeah.
This is the latest on the Rohingyas, which have been run out of Myanmar and run into Bangladesh, and now the Indians are getting involved and making a fuss.
I want to play this, and I have a question.
question.
In New Delhi, India, hundreds of Muslims protested against a plan by India's Hindu nationalist government to deport some 40,000 Rohingya refugees to Burma, where the Burmese army is carrying out a wide-scale ethnic cleansing.
The protest came as India's Supreme Court hears a challenge to the plan, which is backed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
At the United Nations General Assembly, Bangladesh's leader laid out a plan Thursday to begin repatriating 800,000 Rohingya, more than half of whom have fled to Bangladesh since August 25.
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said the U.N. should set up safe zones in Burma for returning refugees.
We are horrified to see that the Myanmar authorities are laying landmines along their stretch of the border to prevent the Rohingyas from returning to Myanmar.
These people must be able to return to their homeland in safety, security and dignity.
In recent days, Bangladeshi authorities have sharply restricted the movements of Rohingya refugees, telling them they can't leave their makeshift camps, ordering drivers not to transport them and landlords not to rent.
These are probably the only people doing any work on this particular story.
Yeah, democracy now.
Well, they're covering it is what they're doing.
So listen to this.
They're putting landmines to keep these guys from coming back, and the Indians think they suck, and everybody, hey, what?
There's something missing in this reporting.
There is something missing because this is a large group of people, nearly a million, And everybody hates them.
That's the only thing I can say.
Everybody.
The Indians hate them.
The Bangladeshis hate them.
The Myanmar people hate them.
Why?
Why?
I mean, there's no...
They won't...
This is what democracy now will never report.
There's only one thing.
Because they're Muslim.
No, there's plenty of Muslims.
There's Muslims here, there's Muslims there, they're all over Myanmar.
Half of our, I don't know, not half, but a quarter of India's population is Muslim.
And Bangladesh has got a large Muslim population.
It's not the Muslim angle.
Well, what is it then?
You tell me.
It's not being reported.
Maybe they stink.
It's like, actually stink.
Maybe they have some sort of a weird...
They have some obscene habits.
I have no idea.
Maybe they're nice and they give too much money away.
I mean, there's something...
That is not being reported because I believe that these people are hated, except amongst themselves and amongst Westerners who are just observing because we love everyone, just observing what's going on.
But we're not explaining why.
Why are they putting landmines down now to keep them from coming back?
Why does the people in Bangladesh say they have to stay in their camps and they can't rent?
If they're rich, they can't even leave their camp and go buy a place or rent from anyone.
Anyone who rents to them is going to be subject to some law.
Something is not being explained.
I'm going to ask Pachanek.
He's an expert on this particular topic.
Yeah, you should ask him.
He was bitching about Sun Tzu.
He was bitching about her being an elitist and not doing anything.
I'll ask him.
I'm sure he's good at that historical stuff.
Well, there's something amiss with the reporting and our knowledge because there's...
I was almost there with this thinking until the landmine thinks.
And I said, oh my god, these people are hated.
They're blowing them up.
Why?
Why?
So, we're not getting that report from Democracy Now!
Because they love everybody, except the United States.
Meanwhile, a little bit further down south, from there, in Bali, Mount Agung is about to erupt.
It hasn't erupted since, was it 1953 or 1963?
Really?
Yeah, and...
That's not good.
1963.
And that eruption was a 5 on the Ve, the Volcano Explosivity Index.
They're expecting it to be a 4 or 5 again.
And I think everyone's pretty much evacuated.
There's a lot of villages around there.
I know this because a friend of mine is in Bali right now.
And he's like, I don't know.
I mean, he's 28 kilometers away.
He says it should be safe, but he doesn't know if he wants to stay or go.
He doesn't know if it's going to be a mess if that thing erupts.
And I'm like, stay!
Stay!
Stay!
Well, you're not much of a friend.
You should get out of there.
Stay!
We need boots on the ground.
He won't be able to communicate with us.
But you know what's so crazy?
You had an earthquake off the coast of California a couple days ago?
Yeah, supposedly.
I didn't feel it.
Well, it was...
Yeah.
Yeah, it was in the...
Out in the Pacific Ocean.
But, just so you know, here are my alerts.
Because I'm using that solar activity app.
So on the 23rd...
That's yesterday.
Yeah, hold on a second.
I've got to go back here.
Where am I? And by the way, we'll talk about it in a little while, but the worth didn't come to an end with...
No, we didn't die.
So I got...
It was 1026...
No, that was yesterday.
I'm pretty much getting them a day to three hours.
I'm getting coronal activity, coronal holes, or solar flares.
I'm getting these, and then right after that, there's an earthquake.
Boom!
You get coronal holes yesterday, 826, or on the 22nd, 23rd, 6.2 in Mexico.
It's...
It's correlation.
I don't want to say it's causation, but it sure seems that way.
And there's a lot of research about volcanoes being activated by flares and other geomagnetic activity.
Supposedly we have about four opportunities in California and then there's a couple in Oregon and one or two in Washington.
Volcanoes that are still active that might go off, including Mount Shasta.
Nice.
You need to get out of there for a whole bunch of reasons.
Well, the wind blows in the other direction, so I would say anyone on the...
No ash for you?
You're good?
Yeah, pretty unlikely.
Anyone living east of these places is not good.
Quick couple of updates about the advertising business.
First of all, the non-advertising business, Patreon, who have...
Well, I thought really successfully adapted the value for value model, but I think they're making a big mistake.
They just took a $60 million Series B investment.
Why?
That was my question.
I mean, how can you not be making money?
All you have to do...
You're not doing anything.
You're just running some servers.
I'm sure they have some huge a-hole plan about becoming the Netflix of podcasts.
I can smell the slide deck from here.
They already talk about our creators and our this and our that.
Yeah, they don't own them.
People, be careful of this outfit.
Be very careful.
Especially when they got money like that, they're going to start turning you off.
You're no longer protected.
You're no longer protected there.
With the Apple stats on deck...
People who are over-reliant on Patreon, and I can think of a few...
Yes, who don't feel comfortable with checks.
There's them...
They, I believe, would be, they would start jacking up the, well, you know, we're going to start doing, we're going to help you guys do better.
We're going to add a percent to our VIG. Then it'll be 2%.
Oh, yeah.
Next thing you know, it's like, you know, agents nowadays, they get 15%.
I think we're doing at least that.
But we're going to get you, we get you more exposure.
Yeah, we get you more exposure.
Exposure.
So there's a business model that will be proven to be successful, but it can be upended in a cooperative form, I'm sure.
With the Apple podcast stats on deck, everyone's getting kind of worried about that.
The International Advertising Bureau, IAB, has put out rules for compliance.
They're putting a stake in the ground.
Saying, oh, well, you know, this is how we count stats.
This is how we do it.
Remember when this was all supposed to be perfectly measurable?
Well, it's not.
Yeah, that's the big joke.
Yeah, now Libsyn is updating their stats reporting system to allow for IAB compliance.
And they had to send out a note saying, you may notice your numbers going down.
Gee, overinflated much?
Well, of course, if you're using our model...
You don't give a crap.
As long as you can pay rent.
That's the only stat we need.
That's the stat.
Yeah.
Can I pay my rent?
Okay, we got 10 listeners, it says.
Or it says a million.
We don't know.
I don't believe any of this stuff.
Nope.
But the best story...
It's only going to be Apple numbers.
I mean, we also have a lot of distribution in other forms.
Yeah.
Okay, the best story from the advertising world, which is not going to get a lot of coverage.
Well, it should get coverage.
The TV network should be covering it, but I don't think it's a big interest to them.
Now, we know that Procter& Gamble, they said, hey, we're stopping all this.
We're not going to invest so much in the digital money.
They pulled back, I think, a total annual spend of $200 million on digital.
They cut that significantly.
Yeah, that's a lot of money.
And now there's an upset.
I know there's a global retailing conference Goldman Sachs had.
This past week, and a lot of advertising people there and understanding how online plays into everything.
And they were buying 3,200 search words.
This one company, which is Restoration Hardware.
It's a...
When I compare it to one of these...
It's like Pier One.
Very expensive doorknobs.
Yes, it's like Pier One.
You get a whole interior, if you want.
Restoration Hardware.
And they've been marketing with 3,200 words, and they...
Someone did some statistics...
Then it turns out that 98% of their business was coming from 22 words.
And what 22 words do you think those were?
Well, you're going to tell us.
The word restoration hardware and the 21 ways to spell it wrong.
That was 98% of the results of their ad words.
So it was restoration hardware and the variations that were just a misspell.
Yes.
Wow.
So that would tell me that there are other forms, there are other marketing, in other words, normal channels of old-fashioned advertising, got the name embedded so well into the public psyche that when a search came up, searchers would just type it in.
So advertising does work, because otherwise you wouldn't know the name restoration hardware to put in.
Absolutely.
Branding.
I'd say branding works.
Okay, branding.
So they were well branded, and all the rest of it, all the online nonsense was just nonsense.
You know, choosing other terms and hoping to get lucky.
And also, it just seems like all the other terms, which I'm sure they had, interiors, you know, cool people, shopping Saturday, I don't know what the hell they had.
But none of that worked.
So what are people looking for?
They are using the internet as a supplemental tool for the branding they receive elsewhere.
Or maybe they get branding, but not keywords, which is really Google's business.
And that's why it's an interesting story to me.
Because they cut their spend.
Yeah, and that's why Google keeps all this as a black box.
Yes, sir.
We, on the other hand...
We have transparency.
I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
Yes, and indeed we do have a few people to thank for show 967.
Seven, sir.
Seven, seven, seven.
And let me get my keyboard and we...
What?
Ah!
Podcasts are down.
Let's start with Alvaro.
I'm sorry.
Let's start with Jose.
Is that Jose?
Yes.
Joseph.
I'll say Joseph.
Joseph.
You say Jose.
Harold.
$100.
Thanks again, he says.
Thank you.
Alvaro Sanchez.
Boob.
8008.
This will fall off pretty quickly until we get to 49.1 or 0.1.
Jackson Butler, boob.
Christopher Azrak in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, boob.
Yanking mics, he's got some comments.
I was just blown away, that's a Florida resident joke, by your last show, yanking mics, and detailed coverage you both provide.
It's my first time donating, so if I get a shout-out, please play your choice of ISO. Boob.
Boob.
Okay, we played a bunch of ISOs already.
We'll play some more.
Boob.
Give him some karma at the end.
Boob.
Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona.
75-75.
Eric Remington in Morristown, New Jersey.
75-00.
Motown.
Charlie Brown.
Charlie Brown.
73-73s.
Yeah, 73s.
November Juliet 7.
Victor from Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie.
Charlie?
Dittos.
Teal Perrine in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
69, 69.
Pop into Minneapolis if you'd like to chat sometime, okay?
Ralph will do a meetup.
Ralph Mazzaro in Kirkland, Washington.
55, 10.
Sir Payne in the ass, Kevin that is, in Richmond, Virginia, 5, 4, 3, 2.
Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington, $51.
Scott Nelson in Melbourne, Florida, $50.01.
David Oliver, $50.
These are all $50s now, name and location.
James Butcher in Dalwinu, Washington.
Really?
Oh, it says Australia, Western Australia.
No, I'm not Washington.
Dalwinu, Western Australia, Australia.
Joe Schwarzbauer in Florissant, Missouri.
Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon.
Brendan Mink in Tempe, Arizona.
Sir Patrick Maycomb in New York City.
Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia.
Witta Kuglas, I believe.
Tired of being a douchebag, he or she says.
Bogdan Alejandro in Roanoke, Texas.
And last on this list, Sir Alan Bean in Oakland, California.
Now, the following people donated, in good faith and good humor, $49.01.
We said that if you put the one cent on there, we'll give you your name call out.
Since we typically, under $50 is typically anonymous.
Anonymous.
And nobody ever donates $49.01.
Now, this was because the Planet X or Nibiru is going to collapse into the globe and blow it up yesterday.
Yeah.
Now, since we're doing this show, which we guaranteed we'd do if it wasn't a disaster.
We're here.
I mean, I was prepped.
I had my MREs.
I had my guns.
I had everything good to go.
Well, okay.
The point is, nothing happened.
This is bull crap, as usual, as usual.
So, but we made a game out of it, made this 4901 contribution, which is nine plus a day.
What if we designed a game and no one came to play?
It would have to be the end of the world.
So, we want to thank all these folks for playing along and donating $49.01, including, and I'm going to list them off, Amy Burlingame in Bergen, New York, Sir Rob Knight of the Philanthropic Shareholders Federation in Rotterdam, Netherlands, Sir Craig Porter, parts unknown.
Charles Spring, parts unknown.
Sir Dirtbag Dave, good old Dirtbag Dave, came in from Concord, California.
Matthew Saminsky, I believe, in Hoboken, New Jersey.
Dave Fugizotto.
I can't remember where Dave's from, it's not on here.
Harry Johnston, as opposed to Harry Johnson.
Phoenix, Arizona.
Kaelin Nistor.
Parts unknown.
B. Matt Beamer.
There's a lot of people here.
Randall Loffelmacher.
By the way, Harry Johnston, he said, can I get a dedouching for a first-time donor?
It would be a second donation, actually, because I clicked the $49 link in the newsletter and wanted the name call out, so enjoy the extra fun.
So yeah, coming up right after this.
Oh, thanks.
Timothy Cato.
Lee Skarbek.
Bart Burtons in Holland.
Yeah, in Best.
Best.
Best.
That's the best city in Holland.
Yep.
That's right.
John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
Matthew Frank in Mentor, Ohio.
We're all the mentors.
If you're a mentor, that's where you go.
Paul Pacheco in White Salmon, Washington.
Chuck Walters, I don't know, I know where he's from, but I can't think of it.
Harry Johnston again came in with the...
Okay, so that's our group.
And that includes Harry Johnston twice, which we think.
And that's our well-wishers for the end of the world.
Thank you.
The only ones who cared.
The only ones who cared.
The only ones who believed, apparently.
No.
It was only like 49.
It was only 16 people.
No.
Or 18 people.
Something like that.
Well, I want to thank everybody who supported the show.
And since we live yet another day, another episode, please support us for the upcoming program on Thursday at Dvorak.org slash NA. And a reminder, we have a meetup this coming Thursday.
Sir GQ, Baron of Maryland, is hosting...
A number of his co-workers that he has converted, anyone who wants to attend is definitely welcome.
The No Agenda Meetup this Thursday, 7pm, the 28th of September, at the Frisco Tap House in Columbia, Maryland.
No photos to be taken at this particular event.
Well, they're in Maryland.
I don't blame them.
Yeah, I think this is...
Remember, a number of co-workers I've converted...
You hear me now?
Yeah, well, Maryland, Spooks.
Yeah, Spooks.
So, Detroit, they'll be taking pictures.
There's another meeting.
They have a lot of meetings, but they have their own mailing list, which I think is Gray's local number one.
Oh, cool.
And they keep having these meetings.
I'm going to have to go just, I'm going to jump, I'm going to go to one of these things by surprise.
It's going to pop up all of a sudden.
Pop up Dvorak.
Yeah, I'm just going to pop up.
It's going to be like the latest thing going on.
Pop up.
Pop up.
And then one special jobs karma in the morning, Adam.
I know this request isn't accompanied by donation, but I'm a monthly subscriber and will continue to do so as long as I'm able.
I recently lost my job.
I was hoping I'd get some jobs karma from the best podcast in the universe.
Cecilia, yours?
Freedom Dave from Elora.
Scandinavia.
That's Ontario, I believe.
Elora, Ontario.
Yes.
And, of course, we'll do that.
So, caught that one in the subscription donations, the monthlies.
And, again, thank you, everybody.
As said, another show Thursday.
Your support, very much needed.
Dvorak.org Slash N-A Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
You've got karma.
Nice list of amen.
Matthew Trimble turns 37 on the 25th.
Carter Pelham says happy birthday to his dad.
Larry Pelham, he celebrated on the 12th of September, so that's a make good.
Carolyn Blaney, happy birthday to her sister Cadence, who turns 30 today.
Alvaro Sanchez, also celebrating his birthday today.
And Jackson Butler says happy birthday to his wife, Ida.
It's her birthday today.
And Wida Guglas.
It says happy birthday to Dad Butch Hauke of Williamsport, Pennsylvania.
He turns 57 on the 26th.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
It's your birthday, yeah!
And sadly, no nights, no title changes, no nothing.
But I do have some info for you.
Okay.
As you know, it's my beat to always stay on track with the LGBTQ DDIP. I've lost track now.
Beep, beep, beep.
L-G-G-B-D-T-T-I-Q-Q-A-A-P-P. Yes, okay, I remember now.
There are different types of classifications in the male homosexual world, as we call them, the gays.
And I was unaware.
I was unaware that there are...
Have you ever heard of a gold star gay?
Is that like a gold star family?
Very close, yes.
A gold star gay.
This is news to me.
Wait, let's go.
Let's back up.
Where are you getting this information?
From a clip.
From an audio clip that is short but hilarious.
No, I didn't know that there was classifications.
I thought there were classifications.
I didn't know what they were.
I know with women, they got the bull dyke, the diesel dyke, the lipstick lesbian.
They have all these different classifications.
Right.
So we know a lot of those, but I didn't know about the gays.
Okay.
So...
The gold star gay is a gay who has never had sex with a woman.
You see, this is the classification that you have to go through.
Ah, gold star.
Yes.
But then there's the platinum gay.
I'm what they call a platinum gay, meaning that a gold star gay is a gay that's never been with a woman, right?
But then a platinum gay is one that was also born C-section, so I've never touched a vagina.
Wow How awesome is that?
That's unbelievable.
I had no idea.
I'm giving you Clip of the Day for that.
I didn't expect it, but I will gladly accept it.
Thank you to my creator.
Clip of the Day.
Appreciate it.
James Comey was doing a speech at Howard University.
I guess he's an alum.
These are typically prestigious gigs.
But oh no, this didn't work out so well for Mr.
Comey.
Breaking news!
I want to take you to Howard University.
We're learning about protesters interrupting an event.
There's supposed to be a speech by the former FBI director James Comey at the convocation of Howard University as they celebrate their 150th anniversary.
We're working to get more information on exactly what's unfolding, but I'm learning there's about 30 protesters or so Shouting and preventing James Comey from speaking.
I then made a strong argument that college was part of the real world.
And I locked people in the cities.
All right, we will keep an eye on this.
And they kept breaking back in.
It was just a bunch of kids just going, uh.
Now, it was a black coalition, and I was able to ISO some of the chants that they were using.
I don't think you could understand it so I'm going to tell you Wait, wait.
You ain't our homie.
Get out, James Comey.
You ain't my homie.
I give them a B- for creative writing.
Get out.
What?
I give it an A for a beat.
It's got a beat.
Yeah, well, yes, it's got a beat.
But get out, James Comey, you ain't my homie.
I have no idea what their problem is, and nor do I feel like looking into it.
I think the Speaker, and this is going to continue, the Speaker should walk out immediately.
It's the administration's fault for this.
And the administration knows whose fault it really is.
And then none of the kids should get a diploma.
They should just cancel the event right on the spot.
They've got to do something drastic like this, like expel people.
Yeah, that used to happen.
Before, this is never going to end.
It's going to get worse and worse until these guys get a backbone.
How many of the parents of these kids would appreciate their child not getting a diploma, not graduating, being expelled from any of these schools?
I don't think they would think much of it.
They'd bitch and moan it to the administration, but whose fault is it?
They'd really give their kids hell.
They've got to put a stop to it.
This does not belong at the university level.
In total agree.
Are they protesting the Vietnam War because they're going to get drafted?
No!
They're protesting some speaker that they don't like.
He's not the homie.
Not their homie.
Why are you protesting?
He's not a homie!
Okay.
Well, fair game.
But did you have anything on the Kurds?
Because I have a little update.
I had that old thing on the last show on the Kurds.
Yeah.
Well, here's...
We have boots on the ground.
Yeah.
One of our producers, and this is, I think he's in, I don't know exactly what kind of business he's in, but he always sends encrypted email.
He was the guy in Syria for a long time.
Okay.
Now he's in Erbil.
Yeah, I think you know what his business is.
Yeah.
He's in Erbil.
He said, ITM, I moved to Erbil for a job a few months back.
I'm exposed here in a sea of, well, expletive, so please keep me anonymous for this note.
Here's the situation regarding the upcoming referendum.
So, what is this again about the referendum?
They want to what?
This is the Kurds voting for some independence in Iraq.
Okay, good.
So, Barazani wanted the central government to recognize the Peshmerga as part of the Iraqi military the same way the Popular Mobilization Units were recognized.
And Barzani is demanding back payments for the whole period that Peshmerga helped fighting ISIS. The central government refused, and so he's using the referendum as pressure.
So now the main problem is Kirkuk, which is where the oil is.
Both Kurdistan and the central government want this.
That's where the conflicts are.
And as for the rest of Kurdistan, people are stocking up on food since both Turkey and Iran are against the referendum, and it's expected they will close their borders on Monday.
And that is the latest from our boots on the ground.
That needs to be recorded by the mainstream media.
No, you have to come to a podcast if you want to learn anything.
From two dotards.
Dotards.
So I just want to play a couple of Hillary clips.
Oh, well, gee.
Now, first of all, I wanted, so we know her attitude about things, I do have an ISO. This is Clinton on WikiLeaks.
Okay.
WikiLeaks, which is nothing more than a tool of Putin and the Kremlin...
I think we've played that before in content.
That's a new one.
That came from that speech that she just gave us.
Oh, well, she's just doing the same thing over and over again.
Now, here's one.
You know I'm always, I don't know if I'm doing this seriously.
I can't figure it out.
I'm always looking for a reptilian.
Yeah, to prove that she's a reptile.
So the not sweating thing, yes.
The not sweating thing is a good giveaway.
And now there's this.
This is the one.
This is again at that same speech in New York.
This is a question to Clinton on breathing.
Can you demonstrate our alternate nostril breathing?
Anyway, I really do highly recommend it.
It's not that hard.
Google it.
She's not going to demonstrate it, but you get the idea.
Yeah, she brought this up on the interview she did with Pooper.
She brought it up and said that she had learned how to do this alternate nostril breathing, and she gave an example.
I thought I may have clipped that, but I don't see it now.
How does this...
So, this is a reptilian thing, so she has to...
I don't know if it is or not, but I've never heard of this before.
Yeah, that's where it came from.
There wasn't a question, but I think people should ask her if she actually likes to take naps on top of hot rocks.
I think that's the question that should be coming up.
Okay.
Well, that question hasn't been asked yet, but Elizabeth Warren did get a nasty question from a local radio host.
About her wealth.
She's worth $9 million.
Yeah, I find this to be...
Somebody sent me a Twitter thing on it.
She says, oh, she lives in a mansion, and they describe it as a 3,400-square-foot, three-bedroom place.
Well, it's a $2 million house.
Well, in...
Hello, California.
Every house around here is $2 million.
You can't get into it.
This is Cambridge.
Cambridge is not a cheap place to live.
I think a $2 million house in Cambridge has got to be a shithole.
Well, that's what she lives in.
So you don't like this kind of question?
I don't particularly like it.
No, I think the question is okay, but there's no evidence that I've seen that she has any earmarks of a person who's wealthy.
She may have a net worth of something that's made up.
And sure, she's in Congress.
She's been there.
She's been there for a while, and she's done other things.
She can have money, but I doubt she's worth $9 million.
Yes, I think she's worth $9 million.
CNN deconstructed it, and the average net worth $8.75 million, including her home.
Which she must have a mortgage on.
I think people do these calculations liberally.
Yeah, well, this is your net worth.
The...
No, she says she has no debt, actually.
Because, you know, she has to file all this stuff.
They make...
She and her husband, who's a Harvard professor, they make over a million dollars a year.
Okay, well, that's good money.
Seems reasonable, yeah.
Well, now the clip's not that fun.
But this thing about her mansion that she lives in in Cambridge...
Yeah, that's bullshit.
Three-bedroom, two-million-dollar place in Cambridge is like a shithole.
No offense.
Yeah.
And the clip is not that good.
I mean, if it is in Texas...
The place would be selling for $250,000.
Dream on.
Not in Austin.
No, I'm just saying Texas is one of those.
I'm thinking of Plano.
Well, forget that then.
Let's move on to another topic.
This is one I've been sitting on.
I like this.
As you know, our former New York banker has stated multiple times, we won.
The American bankers won.
Everyone else lost.
We are the rulers.
We're still not exactly sure what that means, but somehow in the financial system, the way the money rolls in the world, we won.
So when Jamie Dimon of J.P. Morgan speaks, people pay attention because he's really, I think he's more God than blank fine from Goldman Sachs.
Would you agree?
Oh, you know, I wonder about that because Dimon seems like a dummy.
But he's definitely in the ruling elite amongst the bankers.
Well, he's in agreement with you and I on Bitcoin, and he does it quite eloquently in this Bloomberg interview.
And certainly, when we saw the price go from $5,000 down to $3,900, because China said, hey, you know what?
We're going to go after the money changers, so you can do whatever you want.
Sorry?
Is this the clip where he says he thinks anyone in his company should be fired?
We played this clip last show.
No, no, that's not this clip.
This is a new clip.
We've done something with the Bitcoin exchange.
So separate.
Blockchain is a technology that can be used for multiple things, including cryptocurrency.
It can be used for digital dollars.
And there are digital dollars already.
Like a lot of the dollars held in our bank are digital.
And so separate the technology.
What I've said about Bitcoin is a country's form of currency.
You have...
A wonderful currency.
When you formed your nation in 1947, one of the first things you did was create a central bank with a currency, and that currency is part of your national heritage, because on the back it's got the 17 and 19 languages, other languages here.
Countries They like to form their currency.
They like to control their currency.
So right now, I say these crypto things are kind of a novelty.
People think they're kind of neat.
But the bigger they get, the more government's going to close them down.
And they also use a lot for illicit purposes.
So you've seen China just go after them.
That's what I've said.
I mean, you can like it or not like it, but my own view is that eventually government is going to close it down.
They like to control the currency.
They like to know who has it, where it goes, why it goes, when it goes.
They like to see it.
And, you know, the cryptocurrency is the opposite.
So, again, I prefer digital.
You might have a crypto dollar.
I would prefer that than a cryptocurrency that was not a fiat currency.
Fair enough.
No, it's just that, you know, ultimately all currencies are created out of thin air.
And, you know, there is a central bank backing, there is a sovereign backing, but it is still created out of thin air.
And this currency at least has a stable quantity, whereas other currencies backed by central banks have quantitative...
I know, but...
I like this, but she's a little hard to understand.
But she's making the argument saying, yeah, but hold on a second.
You know, fiat currency is also just made up of nothing.
It's just paper.
Yeah, it has the sovereign backing.
But when you look at Bitcoin, it has a finite number of coins.
This is the argument that's always made.
That's why I like this interview.
It's the gold argument.
Yes, it's very similar to the gold argument.
But, you know, you can print as many dollars as you want.
How does that work?
I know, but those central banks that you're...
It says legal tender.
You have to take this as payment.
It's very cheap to do.
It's very easy to move back.
Exactly.
That right there.
Once Bitcoin somehow has the words legal tender for all debts printed on it, it won't be money until then.
That's his point.
You have to take this as payment.
I agree with that.
It's very cheap to do.
It's very easy to move back and forth.
J.P. Morgan moves $6 trillion around the world every day very efficiently, very quietly, very effectively.
Doesn't he sound like Horowitz, by the way?
Sounds just like horror.
A little bit now that you mention it.
Yeah, there's a lot of horror words there.
Very quietly, very effectively, and very cost-efficient.
It's all digital money moving around the world.
So you've got to say, what is the problem we're trying to solve?
So again, I'm not against the technology, but creating money out of thin air without having a government backing is very different than creating money having a government backing.
And like I said, it's not unlimited.
So Bitcoin has that no more than 21 million.
So maybe that kind of does something there.
But there's Ethereum, there are ICOs, there are cryptocurrencies everywhere.
It's creating something out of nothing that, to me, To me, it's worth nothing.
You think they could end badly?
Is that a fear?
It will end badly, yeah.
Oh, okay.
And it'll end when governments, when people lose a lot of money, the government's going to come down, when people, they use it as an investment, or it becomes too big, when governments say, we want to control it now.
And I've had many people say, well, how can you control Bitcoin?
It's very simple.
If I sat there in this room, if you buy yourself a Bitcoin, if you A, you bet to buy yourself a Bitcoin, if you A, you bet anything, I'm going to put you in jail, it's over.
And so watch what's going to happen in China.
You know, it doesn't mean people won't do it.
It just means it'll be a black market, which is a whole different thing.
Exactly.
And this is precisely where it's going.
It's just like the over-the-counter, the OTC market, you know, 10 years ago, whatever.
Free-for-all.
Anybody could jump in, do whatever they wanted.
People were making millions, losing millions.
People had no idea what they were doing.
And that's changed how?
Oh, by restricting the number of trades you can do on a daily basis, and you need to have $25,000 in equity in order to be a day trader.
More than three trades every four days.
And that's determined by the exchange, or is that determined by the individual brokers?
FINRA. FINRA. So is that the individual brokers only?
I believe so.
I'm pretty sure they're self-regulating like this.
No, you can't.
Self-regulated.
That's a self-regulating.
But yeah, it'll happen.
They're going to shut down the exchanges.
That's the fallacy of the whole thing.
The argument that it's money.
Shut up.
It's not money.
It's just not money.
Well, it's...
You can invest in anything.
You can invest in toothpicks or tulips.
Tulips is a good example.
In fact, I'm investing in tulips as we speak.
So I got two London stories.
Yeah, but you have the Uber story, probably.
Yeah, I have the Uber story.
Might as well start with that.
Okay.
Also in London, it is Uber and out.
The city said today it will not renew the ride-hailing company's license.
Uber has 21 days to appeal.
Here's Jonathan Vigliotti.
It's been very, very bad for me and my family, to be honest.
Didier Najiki is among the 40,000 Uber drivers whose future is now unclear.
You just recently bought this car, and without Uber now, you're going to struggle to pay it back.
Yeah, I'm going to pay them back.
It's going to be difficult, you know.
Uber has grown to 3.5 million customers here in about five years, cutting into the market of the city's famed black cabs, which date back to 1634.
Before Uber was available in London, I wouldn't get a black cab, generally, because I just find them very expensive.
When Uber came out, I was like, oh, all right, okay.
The city's transport authority said it had concerns about Uber's lack of background checks on its drivers, as well as how the company has handled allegations of sexual assault.
But according to police, there were two sexual assault complaints against Uber in 2016, the same number as black cabs.
Black cab drivers have fought against Uber since it moved to Europe.
They say Uber is under-regulated and will put them out of business.
Our money's been cut, not by a lot, by about 10, 20 percent, but it's been affected, yeah, it's definitely, yeah.
Vincent Foster has been driving a cab for 38 years and says today he's celebrating.
I was going to have the day off.
I was delighted.
I was going to form a party.
I was going to go to the pub.
In a statement, Uber says the city chose to side with a small group of people that wanted to limit consumer choice.
Uber will challenge this decision in court.
Already, more than 300,000 people have signed an online petition to keep Uber on the road.
Anthony.
Jonathan Vigliotti with Happy London Cab Drivers.
Thanks, Jonathan.
You can stop the clip.
That clip was cut and somehow you got the whole thing out of that.
I'm glad you brought that clip because that is the same clip we have played for an Uber controversy for the past couple of years.
And it was this clip that I have from, and I think this is Bloomberg, It's so obvious.
This is their business model.
This is how they scale.
This is probably somewhere in a PowerPoint deck.
What Uber's playbook has been is really just to go into cities, forget about regulations, ignore regulators, ignore politicians, and build their business.
And once they build their business, they often have very loyal riders who will help them lobby their local representatives to keep Uber in the city.
That's the business model.
That's exactly what they do.
They know that their service is so desirable compared to what is available.
They don't give a crap about...
That's why they go in.
London was a little different.
They did get a license.
But they just go in.
They go as big as they can.
They violate every rule.
Then they get kicked out.
And then the people of the city go, we want it back.
And it's beautiful.
I didn't realize that this is structural.
I forgot about that.
It's absolutely true what's going on.
This is structural.
So they should be back in business.
Yes.
It'll take a couple of months or a year.
They don't care.
This is part of their business model.
It's so obvious.
It just never really dawned on me.
Holy crap.
It's kind of a high-tech model in general.
Silicon Valley does that kind of model a lot.
Well, drug dealers use this.
It's like...
Drug dealers.
Yeah, drug dealers do it, sure.
But it's...
Right, maybe that's where Silicon Valley got its idea.
But they do this with the businesses a lot.
I remember when the 286 chip was out, and I can name a couple of companies that were...
They didn't care about getting the FCC to approve the fact that it was radiating all over the place.
They just rolled out tons of machines and made a whole bunch of money, enough money so they could fight the FCC. This is like the criminal who runs a smart criminal who runs a Ponzi scheme and then gets enough money that he can fight the indictment.
It's crooked.
Yeah.
It's a crooked model.
But very effective.
Anyway, back to Britain.
We're doing these British clips.
I got the second one, which I thought was kind of interesting.
Maybe it needs a little discussion.
This is the fat British.
Hmm.
Fish and chips, fatty fry-ups, not to mention all the biscuits.
Some of the most tempting food in Britain is not exactly what you call locale, which goes some way to explain why the British have become among the heaviest people in Europe.
And the difficulty for many men wanting to lose weight is that dieting programs tend to target women.
So a new club has been set up, using another British national obsession to help men shed the pounds, with the message, forget the fry-ups, focus on the football.
They put together a bunch of football clubs where a bunch of fat guys are running around.
It's quite funny.
The British have not changed their diet.
Except for maybe there's some Frenchification that's taken place over the last 25 years where the boiled this and boiled that is less in vogue.
It never was in vogue.
But then the French have come into these lot of gourmet restaurants in England and they're dynamite.
But you get small portions and it's not the same as eating pasties all the time.
Right.
Patsies, whatever they're called.
And Pacey's, I think, is something else.
Anyway, the diet hasn't changed.
They've always been eating this crap.
So why are they suddenly getting fat all of a sudden?
I think it's because I think they've gotten the same thing that's happened in this country.
I think that the food supply has been poisoned.
Yes.
And a lot of Brits, you know, they eat for the stuff from the gas station.
I don't think that's new.
Yeah, but the ingredients of the stuff at the gas station, maybe.
I think, yes, this American wheat.
Oh, gluten-free.
Which isn't even wheat.
It's the gluten again.
It's not even wheat.
It's some other kind of crazy.
What is it?
Sorghum?
What is it?
No, it's not.
It's some derivative.
It's not Russian red or anything that we've known for in the past.
It's just toxic.
And I think that the way they age the wheat, because wheat has to be aged, it's all done chemically.
It's not done by actually aging.
And I just think that the food supply has been poisoned.
I think the British are not getting the brunt of it.
I mean, we were already fattened out.
I mean, you're in Texas.
You can just look around.
Well, we know that they had poison eggs in Britain.
Yeah, well, the poison egg is another story which I did not clip, which has to do with...
No, we've already talked about that.
I want to stay in Europe, but I do need to mention that one of our producers decided...
Based upon your recommendation, he was inspired to make the Altazage chicken for his family and friends.
And everybody loved it.
He pieced together the menu from online sources.
He says it's delicious.
The garlic mayo sauce goes with its dynamite.
And the whole recipe is in the show notes today at 967.noagendanotes.com.
This is fantastic.
And it has the marinated four hours overnight.
The whole thing's in there.
Good.
After being blasted on the last show, this is a welcome relief.
That's why I bring it up.
Spain, we have now 16,000 The riot police on the cruise ships in Barcelona.
Getting ready.
They're taking this extremely seriously.
But to me, the most surprising news of the day from Euroland was a statement from the Danish Prime Minister.
It's no longer that hottie.
Obama was all over.
Yeah, she's actually become the head of some organization.
I saw her on something.
Yeah, she's some EU muckety-muck now, I'm sure.
Yeah, something like that.
This is Lars Rasmussen.
We know him as well.
In his speech, he acknowledged that Muslims have taken control of parts of Denmark.
In fact, I have his direct quote here, not a clip, obviously.
Hold on.
Let me get the...
This is kind of interesting because the Danish were the most adamant about keeping Muslims out.
Yeah.
It is a matter of being realistic about the situation, he said.
And there are areas where it is already a different set of rules, where the gangs are in control and the police cannot work.
I cannot sit and passively let it happen.
We have tried everything possible.
We just could not solve the problem.
And he called on Danish Parliament to engage us in a different and more robust way.
And they're also the happiest people on earth.
We must remember this.
Yeah, well, they're obviously the most dingy to let this happen.
Yeah.
Well, remember that this has been bubbling.
Anders Breivik, that hell happened in Denmark.
Denmark's such a small country for this.
Yeah.
They don't need this aggravation.
I mean, Brazil has this problem where you have two governments like that, a renegade government and a real government.
And the favelas are run.
Yes.
And there's crap going on there now, too.
The police are going and shooting it all up.
Yeah, it's a rough go.
Just sticking with Europe for a moment, Ryanair, there's a lot of trouble with this low-budget airline.
And they are UK-based, I think, Ryanair.
No.
Yeah, but like the British Isles or Ireland.
I think they're...
It's got some one of those offshore things going on, I think.
The pilots are really mad.
It's about pay.
And the main...
Well, there's a lot of issues, which this clip will show.
This is a pilot, a Ryanair pilot.
He calls into LBC, the London broadcast radio station that Farage is always on.
Right.
London's...
Broadcast company?
Corporation?
No, no.
It's London's best...
Conversation.
Oh yeah, something like that.
Yeah, London's best conversation.
And what caught my ear about this is the fact that they are all on zero-hour contracts, the pilots.
And we know that this is the scam that is being implemented in Europe.
Christina, my daughter, was a part of a lot of kids.
You get the zero hours, so they don't have to fire you.
They don't have to give you benefits because it's a zero-hour contract.
But they can just not invite you to come work.
And that's how they keep their workforce flexible, which is a hack around the Very strict labor regulations in the EU where you can't just fire someone without a number of specific legal reasons.
And in listening to this clip about the zero-hour contract, we reveal a little bit more about the guys who were flying your aircraft.
I trust them, but it's the psychological part that is dangerous in this case.
The recruitment process as well for a new lad out of flight school.
He'll join Ryanair.
Ryanair will charge him €300 for an interview.
This is all on the Ryanair's recruitment website.
It's out there.
So you have to pay to have an interview with Ryanair to be a pilot?
It gets worse than this.
You have to pay €300 for the interview.
If you're successful, you then have to pay Ryanair €29,500 to be trained on a Ryanair aircraft.
zero-hour contract to borrow an agency.
You have to become self-employed, set up an Irish limited company.
And you have a zero-hour contract.
Much like people seem to think zero-hour contracts are just a cancer amongst low-paid work.
It's spreading.
It's really bad.
It's banks to mum and dad.
in the houses, asking their wives inheritances.
It's shocking.
After they start their job it'll be about six months before they get a penny from Ryanair.
They have to go through their training or their own course.
No salary during training.
They have to accommodate themselves either trained in East Midlands or Amsterdam.
They have to find their own accommodation, halls, food, etc.
People living in digs.
After six months, they'll then when they start flying their first passengers online they'll be paid 20 euros an hour.
That first towpilot will in his first few months from alive, he's making about 1,500 euros a month.
Once he's gone through all that, 29,000 for training, 300 just to talk to him.
Then six months no pay, then the training could take place in Amsterdam, which means you have to find a place to stay in Amsterdam, not paid for that.
Then when you finally get your zero-hour contract, which includes incorporating an island for the pilot, you get 20 euros an hour.
Wow.
By the way, yes, it is an Irish company.
Yeah.
Wow, that's scandalous.
It's not the headspace you want your pilot to be in.
And pilots are leaving.
They're giving up the whole profession.
They're just giving it up.
And no doubt, the airlines are really, it's clear, the airlines want the next-gen pilotless aircraft.
Well, great, that's when I get a touring bus.
I'm not a big fan of that.
Yes, we know.
I know, I was on a plane where apparently all these planes have to be, they're already, they could borderline be pilotless because they do automatic landing and takeoffs.
But they have to test this gear every so often.
And I was on an Alaskan Air flight where they were testing the automatic landing.
But that's not just testing.
It lands.
They do that all the time.
No, I'm talking about where there's completely all hands off.
I know.
That happens all the time.
Well, it was not a pleasant experience.
Tell me.
What was bad about it?
It bounced off the ground way up into the air and then landed again.
And the hostess, whoever, the stewardess comes on.
Hostess.
Hello, miss.
Yeah, hostess.
She comes on and she says, well, welcome to Oakland.
Both times, we've been here twice now.
Some snide remark about this thing.
And then she explained that they were testing some automatic landing equipment.
Oh, okay.
It was just a horrible...
I mean, this thing just went...
It must have gone up 50 feet.
That's bad.
It's not supposed to do that.
No, it's supposed to land.
Yeah.
Well, that part they've kind of perfected.
That does kind of work pretty well.
I just have a couple more things here.
Equifax, we have more news about them.
The details are, though, this isn't the same hack that exposed 143 million customers, but it's the same group of hackers, right?
Well, you're right.
There are definitely two different incidents here.
There's one that happens in March, and there's one that Equifax learns about in July.
But keep in mind here, Equifax has not said anything about the earlier incident.
They hired the same security company, Mandiant, for both.
And until we called them and said, look, we're going to report this, They had been saying that there was only one.
So bottom line is they haven't really been very transparent, which means that they're breaking the first rule after a major data breach.
You've got to get all the bad news out at once.
Or everyone's going to be speculating the worst.
I mean, is there an explanation why they didn't disclose it?
No.
They basically said, look, we didn't disclose it, but we still have followed all the disclosure regulations.
And effectively, what they're saying is there wasn't evidence that any data that would trigger a disclosure was taken.
So, in other words...
Legally, they only have to disclose if there's evidence that certain kinds of sensitive personal information will leave the network.
Short of that, they don't have to say anything.
But it raises a lot of complicated questions.
Is this the same intruders?
Were they kicked out and did they come back?
Or did they just get hit twice with two major breaches within a few months?
None of that looks particularly good when it comes to their security.
Elizabeth Warren should be calling for a full-scale audit of all these types of outfits.
And notice they've hired Mandiant, which is a FireEye subsidiary.
Pew, pew, pew, pew.
And they just didn't report it.
It wasn't necessary.
It's okay.
These guys suck.
These guys suck.
They're crooked.
Yeah, they suck.
Oh, by the way, Captain Jeff in the chat room reminds me.
Auto landing, yes, about 1% of the time.
Auto takeoff, never, he says.
Never.
Never.
Okay.
Just so you know.
I've never witnessed one, so I don't know.
I guess no.
So he says no, never.
Mel Brooks is in London.
Oh, is he?
Yeah, Mel Brooks.
Now, is he considered a comedian, a filmmaker?
All of the above.
All of the above.
And actor.
And the reason I pulled this clip...
Because we've often talked about movies of his that he made that could just never be remade.
Or be made in this time.
No.
Especially Blazing Saddles.
Blazing Saddles would be the one.
That's the one that this clip is about.
And I think nowadays Young Frankenstein wouldn't get off the ground.
Well, Young Frankenstein is what just premiered on London's West End.
Yeah, I know they'd make it into a play.
Yes, so he, and I think the play, you can do anything you want him to play, right?
But hey, we'll see what happens when that comes to Broadway.
We'll see how well that is received.
The BBC did have a chance to catch up with him.
When you look at the films you've made, Blazing Saddles, The Producers, Young Frankenstein, do you think you could get them made today?
No.
No.
I mean, maybe Young Frankenstein, maybe a few, but never Blazing Saddles.
Because we have become stupidly politically correct, which is the death of comedy.
It's okay not to hurt feelings of various tribes and groups.
However, it's not good for comedy.
Comedy has to walk a thin line, take risks.
Comedy is the lecherous little elf whispering into the king's ear.
Always telling the truth.
Always telling the truth about human behavior.
Always telling the truth about human behavior.
So, the death of comedy is nigh.
Yeah, well, you could tell that.
Mimi was bitching about this, being more involved in the comedic scene than me, about she went to a comedy day, which she doesn't work there, which is an annual event in San Francisco, and she says...
I don't go to it.
She says that Jay and Nick went to it with her.
And they served beer.
they're part of the concessions people.
And they, she says that all she heard, every comic, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
She says it was horrible.
They And she said none of them were funny.
And all they did was Trump joke.
Trump, Trump, Trump.
And she said it was pathetic.
She said it was horrible.
What was it we were watching the other night on Netflix and it was also just too one-sidedly political.
It was just not...
I can't remember now.
It may come to me.
After the show, I'm sure it will come to me.
Well, obviously it will eventually.
But yeah, it's the death of comedy.
Well, let's talk about something that...
And I'm calling 10 minutes.
Actually, I'm calling last clip for you.
Okay.
Well, then I better pick one.
I'm going to pick a clip that...
Well, there's a couple of clips I have.
I could do the...
There's a one-two punch.
I'm going to end this on a high note, so you can do whatever you want.
Well, let's do sports versus Trump, then.
Yes.
You know, the love of my life, Tina the Keeper, this morning.
First thing she said, what the hell is Trump doing?
Why is he talking about sports?
I mean, just do other shit.
Well, here's the answer.
The clip is the answer?
Well, yes.
Then there's this clip, too, which is the kicker will play that after.
Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, get that son of a f*** off the field right now.
Out.
He's fired.
He's fired!
He's fired!
When President Trump rallied voters in Huntsville, Alabama Friday night, he veered into a sideline attack on the NFL. Because that's a total disrespect of our heritage.
Including this recommendation for NFL fans.
If you see it, even if it's one player, leave the stadium.
I guarantee things will stop.
Last season, San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick knelt during the national anthem to protest racism.
This season, he hasn't been signed by an NFL team.
On Twitter, Trump doubled down, saying that all professional athletes who disrespect the flag should be fired, and preemptively withdrawing a White House invitation to basketball superstar Steph Curry.
The president's comments stirred fury online.
You bum, tweeted LeBron James.
Going to White House was a great honor until you showed up.
The NFL Players Union and many players themselves also rushed to defend what they see as free speech.
Does anyone tell Trump to stick to politics like they tell us to stick to sports, tweeted Lions tight end Eric Ebron.
We will never back down, added the head of the NFL Players Union.
Sports has not been an escape from politics for a good long time.
Professor Lee Eagle is with New York University's Tisch Institute for Sports.
In terms of talking to athletes, there are managers who are about to instruct them on what they can do.
There are coaches who will do the same, but they're not all that great about letting other people tell them what to do.
Now, a couple of things in that report.
One is the LeBron things you bum.
It was actually you bum, and then it was at Steph Curry.
He's giving Curry a bad time, and I think it was tongue-in-cheek, to be honest about it.
But they played it straight.
And I have to say, especially with football, basketball to a lesser extent, these are not military events.
I do not understand why the national anthem has anything to do with a professional football game.
I've always...
I wouldn't sit.
I mean, I'd stand because you got to.
The flag and these guys are walking around.
Well, we know the military pays for all kinds of military procedures to take place.
Yes, and they should stop taking their money.
They're recruiting events.
It's not a military event.
It's a recruiting event.
There's always recruiters at the game.
So let's go with sports.
Well, I don't know about that, but sports versus Trump, too.
Late today, Steph Curry's Golden State Warriors accepted the president's decision to withdraw a White House invitation, saying the team will instead visit Washington to celebrate equality, diversity and inclusion.
And where's that meeting?
Where's that meeting?
So wait, they're still going to go to Washington, but they're not going to go to the White House, and they're going to celebrate inclusion?
Diversity?
How are they going to do this?
Well, there must be some monument to this.
I don't know.
They're roaming around Washington celebrating inclusion.
This is stupid.
Inclusion!
Inclusion!
You can see a whole bunch of football guys saying, Diversity!
Inclusion!
Basketball guys, whatever.
It's all the same.
But it's just idiotic.
This whole thing is ridiculous.
Yeah, but it doesn't answer the question why the president does it.
Other than what he said was, I hadn't heard him say that.
He's a populist.
He's just appealing to the masses.
It's something he thinks he should do.
What he said was...
I don't even think he watches basketball.
No.
But what he said was, if someone does that, just leave the stadium.
You already paid for your ticket.
Yeah.
So what's that going to accomplish?
It would be interesting to see if anyone did that.
Nobody would do it.
I don't think so.
They came to see the game.
They just put up with this stuff at the beginning.
Well, apparently there was a church shooting in Tennessee today.
Show day.
That would make sense.
And my last clip is just something nice I picked up.
Just to put us in a good mood and a good vibe.
We have an incredible grackle problem in Austin.
I have no idea what a grackle is.
A grackle...
Is that a bird?
It's a bird.
Yeah, and it's...
Is it when it makes a bunch of rackets?
Yes.
A black bird.
Ah, yeah, I know about that.
They look a bit like crows.
They're smaller than a crow.
And...
Yeah, they're noisy.
The HEB on Ultor here...
And they...
Poop everywhere.
They poop everywhere, but they're noisy, and then they come out around dawn, and they sit on the wires.
They sit on the electrical wires, the phone wires, thousands of them, just all next to each other.
And it's eerie.
It's really eerie, because it's just deafening the sound in the parking lot of the grocery store.
And there's this one, so some guys found a spot where the wires are strung horizontally, at least it looks that way, on top of each other's, and it represented a musical scale.
So it had, you know, your five, what is it, your eight bar, whatever it is, like a musical notation.
And what he did, he took a picture of the grackle sitting there, and he played those exact notes as they appear in the picture as notes on the musical timeline.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
And here it is.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Granted, needs a bit more cowbell.
But I think it's pretty.
I think it's bullcrap.
He's arranged it.
Give me a break.
That's why we show up twice a week.
Just to hear a zinger like that, everybody.
That's no dotard there, my friends.
No, no.
No, no.
He's no dotard.
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I'm a First Amendment absolutist.
I believe in only two things completely, the First Amendment and boobs.
I thought the Bill of Rights was just a fairy tale The Constitution didn't apply to me They were out to get me And just shut up, slave Take what you want to say to your grave Then I saw her boobs.
Now I'm a believer.
Upon the fake news, it died in my eyes.
I saw her boobs.
I'm a believer and I got the freedom to speak my mind.
Thought free speech was more or less a give and take.
Give them half a chance, they take me down.
Oh, I'm so used to trying.
All you get is hate.
One bad face, bad post, can seal my face.
Then I saw her boobs.
Now I'm a believer.
On the fake news.
In kind of lies.
I saw her boo.
I'm a believer.
What did you say?
You believe the First Amendment ends?
Beat up low BS? Boobs.
Two things that have only never let me rip down in this entire country's history.
The First Amendment and boobs.
So for somebody to come on CNN and to say something like, the only thing I believe in is a discussion.
I'm still there, too.
And I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly.
Oh, Z, E, or P. Because as a woman, I'm...
I believe completely in the First Amendment and in boobs.
But then I saw her boobs.
Now I'm a believer on the fake news.
Indynamized I saw her booze I'm a believer And I've got the freedom to speak my mind I believe completely in the First Amendment and in boobs.
Those are the only two things I believe 100% in in this country.
And by the way, Jamal, why are you sitting here live on CNN? Did you notice that?
He went straight to that.
Why would you even say that live on national television and with a female host?
I say it live on the radio all the time because it's true and that's what I do.