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	This breaks out in San Francisco where they have the poop map.
	At least you got a map.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, September 14th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination.
	Episode 9 or 6 or 4.
	This is no agenda.
	No ending left to blame is the Algos!
	Coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet in downtown Austin, Tejas.
	Capital of the Drone, Star State, in the Cludio.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where there's a bunch of noise outside, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Craig Lawn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	If it's not the noise, if it's not the sun in your eyes, if it's not the Zephyr being late.
	One thing after another.
	It's unbelievable.
	I'm telling you this.
	So, by the way, I sent you two clips.
	One I didn't really mean to.
	I don't know why I did that.
	I didn't do it.
	And one of them does not have enough clips.
	Oh, okay.
	You could have told me this just before you said to start the show.
	I was just about to interrupt this theme song to do that.
	And I said, I can do it on the show.
	Okay.
	I'll do business on the air.
	Yeah, I think I got everything.
	I think I'm good.
	Okay.
	I hope.
	Yeah.
	So you should have clips one, a phony clips one, and then clips two.
	I think I only had a clips one.
	I don't think I had a phony clips one.
	You should have two clips one.
	And people should know that the way this works is...
	I have no idea what John is sending me.
	I never look at it.
	I don't care.
	I only care that he brings something to the show.
	And he has no idea what I have.
	There's no collusion.
	No collusion yet.
	I think I got him.
	Alright.
	Let's test it.
	Ask me for a clip.
	Let's see if I have it.
	Well...
	I have to go to the printer and get my clip list.
	You are completely unprepared, sir.
	Looks like it.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You'd think so.
	Yeah, well...
	Well, we're going to play some clips.
	Let's get the one out of the way that's just kind of the lighthearted clips, because there's nothing more amusing than listen to Hillary, who's on the book tour.
	Wait, can I do a little...
	I have the best...
	Aha!
	No, I have the best all excuses in one, which is not edited.
	Because, you know, there's a lot of really funny ones about the, you know, the people have hacked together all of her excuses from the book.
	Oh, yes, I'd love to hear this.
	This is two minutes, and this is, I think it's from the Jane Pauly interview, where she really throws it all in there unedited.
	I went from, I think, 26 points ahead to 13 points ahead, and I needed about 18 points in order to be sure I could win Pennsylvania.
	Okay.
	I watched how...
	Analysts who I have a great deal of respect for, like Nate Silver.
	Before we even continue with this, here's what I don't understand.
	Somehow, these analysts, the pollsters, the polling numbers, whatever it is that they say when the following is repeated, I was 13 points ahead until the Comey memo, then I lost out.
	Weren't these the same guys and gals of the data who were saying that she was a shoe-in 95%?
	What numbers are they talking about when this is mentioned every single time?
	Well, I don't know the context of what you're asking me this question.
	Oh, okay.
	Every interview she's done, she says, I was 13 points ahead until the Comey memo, or until the Comey came out and said, we're reopening the investigation.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Oh, okay.
	So what points?
	Eight points and what?
	I'm going to rephrase your question.
	Thank you.
	Helpful.
	Right before the election, long after the Comey memo, they had her in the bag.
	She was going to win by this much, and there was no doubt about it.
	And that was after the Comey memo.
	Right, but then he reopened.
	He announced that he reopened.
	No, no, I'm saying after he reopened.
	That was five days, wasn't it?
	Five days before the election.
	These guys were pulling up to the last second.
	That's what I thought.
	And now, in hindsight, it's not even said that it's in hindsight.
	It's like, everyone said I dropped all these points.
	It's bullcrap.
	There was no...
	What numbers?
	What points?
	In fact, I remember...
	Wait.
	I remember hearing people say after the Comey thing, well, people have already made up their minds.
	Yeah, there was a lot of that.
	They're not going to change their minds because of this.
	Yeah.
	She's a shoo-in.
	All right.
	We'll continue with her excuse.
	Two minutes of excuses.
	A great deal of respect for, like Nate Silver...
	Who got everything wrong.
	Barrowed into all the data and said, but for that Comey letter, she would have won.
	So it was very personal to me.
	I think my general election prospects were so badly damaged that even though I was starting to come back, it was not enough time to overcome it.
	But even though that was the primary blow to my campaign...
	Here we go!
	It has to be looked at in context with the Russians weaponizing information, negative stories about me, this whole WikiLeaks beginning to leak in early October of John Podesta's emails, which if you've read them all, they're pretty anodyne, but they were taken out of context.
	Stories were made up about them.
	We now know Facebook was...
	Taking money from Russian companies to run.
	Taking money from Russian companies.
	I can just imagine.
	The way she says it.
	There's Zuckerberg in a dark alley.
	Hey, comrade.
	You have the money.
	Yes, I got the money.
	Okay, we got it.
	We'll run those.
	We'll destroy here with these face bag ads.
	Vlad.
	Taking money from Russian companies to run negative stories about me.
	If you look at all of this, yes, it affected me and my campaign.
	But I am more concerned now going forward that we haven't come to grips with what it means for future elections.
	I would also add that the voter suppression that we now know had been in the works and really put into effect in a lot of states, like Wisconsin, North Carolina, etc., played a role.
	And then let's not forget sexism and misogyny, which are endemic to our society and certainly, as I write in my chapter called On Being a Woman in Politics, have to be factored in.
	Oh, my goodness.
	That's a good little two minutes there.
	Hello?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Oh, I didn't know if you were still there or not.
	Well, she was on the road.
	With this excuse tour.
	She's still on the road, not was, still is.
	Yeah, she's on the road.
	Well, she wants to sell as many books as she can.
	Which I believe are now all half price at Barnes& Noble.
	They're buy one, get one half off in the UK. Amazon deleting their one-star reviews, which is apparently policy if it's an autobiography.
	I didn't realize that.
	Oh, I didn't know this.
	Yeah, Amazon has been deleting one-star reviews for the book, and they say, oh, you know, if it's an autobiography, then we feel that we need to kind of normalize the data.
	So we have to take out the outliers, because it's autobiography, and, you know, that's just an opinion of the author.
	It's total crap!
	I didn't know that this was policy.
	I've never heard of it before.
	Maybe it's a new policy.
	Well, it's probably a good idea.
	What?
	Yeah, because it's so truthful.
	I would say I want to get the book now because people have been showing excerpts from it.
	Oh, I definitely want it.
	She's got all kinds of crazy stuff in there like her analysis of the movie 1984.
	It's like this won't happen here if we have more government control.
	Has she ever read 1984?
	I don't think so.
	Here's a face bag post from a friend of mine.
	A face bag friend, no less.
	I'm on chapter 24, and I couldn't possibly hate people who voted against Hillary more than I do right now.
	She's literally as perfect as a smart person can be.
	The people who voted against her don't deserve anything better than being screwed by screwed-up man they lost enough to follow.
	Hillary is so smart and so good, and her haters are so undereducated and so delusional.
	It's not just heartbreaking, it's heart-devastating that she isn't our president!
	Wow.
	That's the read of the month.
	That's a great note.
	Yeah.
	What is wrong with...
	Okay, well...
	Well, it's someone you know, too, but I'll leave...
	Let's go to...
	NBC didn't do it on his news show.
	I'm sorry, NBC. CBS is the one who avoided running a free promotion for her book for some reason.
	I don't understand.
	Isn't Simon& Schuster, her publisher, isn't that CBS? Yeah.
	I think it is, but I think they may have pre-plugged it or something, but on this last couple of days, The two other networks ran promotions, but it was all promotions.
	Like, on The View, you know, ABC runs a clip of her on The View, and then NBC runs a clip of her on the Today Show.
	CBS didn't have her on any shows, I guess.
	I have no idea.
	Has she been on Colbert yet?
	I think they've already plugged the book enough.
	Is she going on Colbert?
	Has she already done that?
	Is that tonight?
	It might be tonight.
	It's coming.
	I definitely want to check that out because I did watch the Bernie thing which was Pathetic.
	So let's listen to this same thing that you played, only done just kind of a little reiteration.
	Let's start with NBC. Back in the spotlight tonight, Hillary Clinton.
	Her new memoir, What Happened?
	An account of her unsuccessful 2016 presidential campaign is hitting shelves.
	And while Clinton does take some responsibility for her loss, in the book she also points blame at a number of other parties.
	Chief among them, former FBI Director James Comey.
	NBC's Andrea Mitchell with more on that.
	Hillary Clinton acknowledging her own flaws.
	People will say, well, hey, you know, there's all this noise around her all the time, and some of it is of my own doing.
	But in her first live TV interview since Election Day, blaming her loss squarely on former FBI director James Comey with Savannah Guthrie and Matt Lauer.
	Did you make enough mistakes yourself?
	I think it's good to point out that she hates Matt Lauer, and I believe there's a piece in her book about him The deal was, remember when she did the town hall and he continued asking about the emails?
	What's with the emails?
	Why did you do this?
	That was not in the script.
	I recall the next day, she was really pissed off about it.
	Maybe we have a clip from that.
	If you have it, that'd be great.
	But he's obviously still on her case, although they seem slightly good-humored about the exchange that's about to take place.
	Lauer to Hillary.
	And if I say to somebody on the Republican side, aren't you nervous about what's happening with this campaign and this division and what might happen to the convention?
	Do you know what I hear a lot?
	They are clinging to the hope.
	Nah, that wasn't the one about the emails, but that is from the town hall.
	Anyway, so she hates him for that very reason because he didn't stick to the script.
	Well, she did her first interview with him, so they're trying to make amends, I think.
	But then Lauer asks her a question that she answers, I think, which really says it all.
	With a lot of passive aggression, is what I saw.
	Did you make enough mistakes yourself to lose the election without any of the other things you talk about?
	Well, I will say no, Matt.
	I don't think that will surprise you.
	In her new book, she writes about a lack of passion, failing to connect with angry voters, running a status quo campaign against a reality TV star.
	But on today, she said she would have won if not for Comey, especially reopening the email investigation only 11 days before the election.
	Absent that, I believe and I think the evidence shows I would have won.
	Were there headwinds?
	Yes, but the role that he played historically was determinative.
	Also today, Clinton's first reaction to Donald Trump Jr.
	and his controversial campaign meeting with the Russians.
	He now says he was trying to learn about your fitness for office.
	It's another absurd lie to cover up what really was going on.
	In her book, Clinton also settles scores with the press, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, and today accuses President Trump of not being a president for all Americans.
	Frankly, a misunderstanding of what he's been doing is exactly one of the reasons that Hillary Clinton is not the president.
	And if Clinton got a do-over?
	If the election were held today, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton on the ballot again, would you win?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I think that there's at least a 50-50 chance I would.
	Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington.
	Did anyone ask her if she was going to visit Houston or if she was going to visit Florida?
	Did she give a crap at all?
	Has she mentioned anything about anyone else but herself during this?
	She always talks about herself.
	I know, but she has zero compassion for what's going on.
	I mean, I just haven't seen her talk about it.
	Maybe she has, but it's like everyone does that.
	It's like even when you see people.
	She's still irked.
	Yeah, I know, but it's not okay.
	It's very rude.
	It's uncivil.
	Well, I don't know what you're seeing.
	I don't know how you're seeing this, but I heard that person whose letter you read from the face beggars.
	Yeah, it must be me.
	And I think you're nailing it.
	It must be me.
	It must be me.
	It's gotta be you.
	So let's go to ABC where they had, this time the best they could do is get Hillary to go on The View.
	We turn next here to Hillary Clinton breaking her silence on some of the key moments that played out in the president.
	And people say the view is not important.
	She'll campaign her new book out called What Happened.
	Clinton acknowledging her own mistakes but also saying today that she would have won had it not been for James Comey intervening in those final days to say he was looking into newly discovered emails only later to say there was nothing there.
	She's also talking about that third debate when millions watched as then-candidate Donald Trump seemed to follow her around on stage, something she says she tried to prepare for during debate prep.
	But failed, clearly.
	There's a lot of what I'm hearing is, I should have done this.
	I should have said this.
	I wanted to tell this person that, but I didn't.
	I just went along with the program.
	It's exactly what a leader does not do.
	Hey, tell it to your face bag, friend.
	He's your friend, too.
	Then candidate Donald Trump seemed to follow her around on stage, something she says she tried to prepare for during debate prep.
	We practiced, the young man who played Trump, practiced stalking me.
	Really?
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	Stalking me and saying really nasty things.
	Why did she fail so miserably?
	To me, because I wanted to keep my composure.
	Then, though, when I was actually on stage, it felt so different.
	And that's when I was thinking, like, okay, what do I do?
	Well, we got you something.
	You can just wear this from now on.
	A burka?
	Did they get her a burka?
	What is it?
	No, they got her a t-shirt, and on the back of it says, back off.
	Clinton also revealing she did not prepare a concession speech and that she felt enormous responsibility before delivering it, saying it was only when she left with her husband, the former president, in that car, watching supporters on the street, that she then had no words.
	Yeah.
	What is the point?
	Does she have an agenda, so to speak, that you're aware of, besides her foundation?
	She wants to make some money on these books.
	Nah, well, she's not a book.
	Yeah, but she's just fulfilling the obligation of her advance.
	Well, I think they had a report that mentioned that she got her punches in on Biden and everyone.
	She had any slight grudge.
	That she had picked up along the way.
	She had to get it out of her system.
	That would make it kind of interesting reading.
	She was also on with Pooper.
	Anderson Pooper.
	Did you catch that?
	What?
	Pooper?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I caught Pooper.
	I mean, you have a clip?
	Yeah, I got a clip.
	Pooper, two clips actually.
	Pooper was, he was down in Florida.
	And I swear to you, I watched intently.
	The guy's on camera flexing his muscles.
	He had a t-shirt on, and then, you know, like you turn, if you hold your arms down by your side, but then you turn your thumbs inward, then you make yourself a little broader.
	And then he was flexing, and that's how I was sitting there talking.
	It was really bizarre.
	Oh, creepy.
	Yeah, you know, the tight t-shirt.
	I don't want to label, but yeah.
	In the book, you make no attempt to hide your displeasure about the Electoral College.
	You say on page 386, you say the godforsaken Electoral College.
	You mention winning the popular vote, obviously, multiple times in the book.
	Do you think the Electoral College would be abolished?
	I said that in 2000, after what happened to the 2000 election with Al Gore.
	I was elected to the Senate that same year.
	And if you look at our recent history, we've had several candidates, nominees, who have won the popular vote and lost the Electoral College.
	What does that say?
	And it says...
	It says thank God.
	Anachronism that was designed for another time no longer works.
	We've moved toward one person, one vote.
	That's how we select winners.
	I was amused after the French elections when I was listening to an interview with a French electoral expert.
	And he said, well, unlike your country, the person who wins the most votes wins.
	So I think it needs to be eliminated.
	I'd like to see us move beyond it.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Just getting rid of the electoral college.
	That's right.
	Yeah, good luck.
	I think it can happen because I've written this essay and I keep promising to put it on, republish it or repost it.
	Yeah, why don't you put it in the newsletter?
	Yeah, I should.
	It's pretty long.
	So we can get no donations.
	Yeah, we'll get no donations if I do that.
	Exactly.
	But it discusses the fact that it's the media that will promote this, because the media is never going to promote campaign finance reform.
	If it starts to come up and get serious, the media is going to quash it, because all the money goes to the media.
	So why would they want campaign finance reform?
	Well, there may be...
	I'm thinking of this Facebook thing is bubbling.
	It's bubbling under.
	It's going to pop up.
	And I've identified this a couple shows ago.
	New York Times, their headline was, Facebook wins, democracy loses.
	So they're really pissed off at the face bag.
	And it keeps coming up.
	There's now calls to make Mark Zuckerberg testify.
	I think it's a move-on petition.
	Mark Zuckerberg is like the biggest supporter of the Democrats, too.
	The irony of it is just...
	Right.
	It's delicious.
	It's too delicious to believe.
	So I'm waiting for that.
	I think that will pop up and there's going to be a lot of scrambling.
	They're doing very well at holding this fire back momentarily.
	But I think particularly Rachel Maddow is all over them.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Well...
	I wanted to mention something I was thinking about, which is, you know, when Loretta, because I have this thesis that I've been, it's an underlying thesis I can't prove or disprove, but it's always, it may help explain certain things, that Bill Clinton was trying to, was always undermining Hillary's campaign because he didn't want to be here to be president.
	Which was why she was poisoning him and why it looked so bad.
	This is like the War of the Roses, these two people.
	He was poisoning her and then she was poisoning him.
	And now they both seem to be fine.
	Isn't that strange?
	I like it.
	It fits in the thesis, yes.
	It all fits in.
	I believe, if I'm going to go along with that thesis, that the secret meeting between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton on the tarmac was about knocking her out.
	Yeah, it was about, let's release some emails.
	Let's get some more, you know, can you do this?
	You know, well, Bill, you know.
	What are you going to do after you're done here?
	You want to work for the foundation?
	Yeah, it could be.
	Something like that.
	Whatever.
	I just, this Comey thing that she keeps bringing up.
	She seems to be focusing on it now.
	It could backfire is what you're saying.
	I'm sorry?
	It could possibly backfire.
	When the Mueller report comes out.
	Oh, you don't know.
	It could be.
	The whole thing is a mess, is all I know.
	Comey is under fire.
	There's a reason why Sarah Sanders is talking to the White House Press Corps about Comey, about all the felonies, and he's horrible.
	He did it on FBI... He was under his employment rules, broke his FBI contract.
	They're not just doing that because.
	I'm sure that there's either something brewing or it's to directly combat Hillary's book tour with, you know, call me this, call me that, by adding on to it what a bad guy he is.
	They're not stupid there.
	I don't know.
	We'll say, well, yes.
	I'll tell you, though, I stayed up last night to watch Sean Spicer on Jimmy Kimmel.
	Oh, that would have been interesting.
	Dud.
	Dud.
	It was so bad, I didn't even pull a clip of how bad it was.
	The guy is not funny.
	Jimmy was...
	He started off with...
	How come you had to lie for the president about the size of the inaugural crowd?
	You know, it's like an uncomfortable question.
	Spicer said, you know, he said, thanks for bringing that up.
	And the first, the A block was all about that.
	Kimmel was poor form.
	Really bad.
	He could have done a much better job with Spicer.
	Who, by the way, when you see him walk, just, you know, because you only see him behind the podium, man, Melissa McCarthy really did nail that guy.
	They are the same person.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	The mannerisms, the head movements, all of that stuff.
	Well, Kimmel is somehow...
	Something happened and he got...
	He's lost.
	He's lost.
	He's totally gone off the deep end, Dimension B style.
	I watched Fallon.
	I've been watching...
	I love the three guys.
	I mean, Colbert is just a complete stooge for the CIA. And Kimmel has tried to, you know, get his ratings up because he's number three.
	And instead of going...
	Further into those great sketches he does and those bits and the man on the street and all that sort of thing.
	He's kind of become just a Trump hater for some reason.
	And Fallon, you know, the friend, you know, the drinker, seems to temper it better.
	He still just has a couple of jokes at the beginning.
	He still does his Trump voice and he does a lot of other voices.
	Yeah.
	And then he gets off of it and he starts running a regular show.
	Well, and the regular infantile show, you know, doing stupid games with celebrities.
	It's completely vapid and empty.
	And Colbert is...
	Well...
	I'm just pointing out our culture...
	Yeah, it's totally babbitt and empty.
	Yeah, and Colbert is just so hate-filled.
	It's just the hate is in his eyes.
	I'll watch him if he has a good guest on.
	Yeah, of course, but no.
	You mentioned the CIA. Now, in the past few days...
	There was a lot of interesting things have happened.
	We talked about how Steve Pchenik, the PSYOPs military guy who's been in the State Department and has a very impressive resume.
	Yeah.
	Who's in Florida and has no power, by the way, but he's okay.
	You always got to check.
	You know, when someone's over 70, you got to check on them.
	He is at war with Roger Stone.
	It's very odd.
	And it's happening on Infowars.
	I'm not going to play any clips because it's all over the web.
	You can listen to it yourself.
	And the battlefield is General Kelly.
	I think McMaster's in there, too.
	No, it's about Kelly.
	McMaster's may be important, but that's not what the argument is about.
	And Pachanek is very angry at Roger Stone, who keeps saying, you know, Roger Stone now has a show on Infowars.
	He's talking about, we're going to get him out.
	He's got to go.
	Kelly's no good.
	And so I would think that maybe Stone is on the three-letter agency side, Catholics in Action.
	The military intelligence side, and he's saying, no, no, we have Kelly in there because we have command and control over Trump's Twitter, which I would say seems to be correct.
	We haven't seen too much tweeting at all, really, recently.
	The tweets I've noticed recently have been very tame and usually complimentary or congratulatory and things like, you know, boring.
	So Roger Stone is taking it one step further and he's saying, I spoke with the president the other day and he was slurring his words.
	He's being drugged!
	Insinuating that Kelly is drugging him, I might add.
	Or insinuating that somebody's drugging him.
	And this began around the 11th, I believe.
	And I do have a clip I didn't want to play.
	But it's Alex Jones summarizing the drugging thing.
	And I think maybe we should play it.
	Even though I think our general policy is not to be playing a lot of Jones clips.
	Because mostly him just...
	Going on and on, so I cut it down as much as I could.
	I was told this by high-level sources, and it was evident, and especially after Reagan was shot in his first year in office, when he was acting like Trump and doing the right things, that he never really recovered.
	They gave him cold blood and his transfusion that causes brain damage.
	They slowly gave him small amounts of sedatives.
	It's known that most presidents end up getting drugged.
	Small dosages of sedatives till they build it up.
	Trump's such a bull, he hasn't fully understood it yet, but I've talked to people Multiple ones, and they believe that they are putting a slow sedative that they're building up that's also addictive in his Diet Coke and in his iced tea.
	You don't need anything extra in Diet Coke to kill someone.
	And that the president by six or seven at night is basically slurring his words and is drugged.
	Now, first they had to isolate him to do that.
	But yes, ladies and gentlemen, I've talked to people that talk to the president now at nine at night.
	He is slurring his words.
	I don't like him putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay!
	Yeah.
	Now, I'm big on conspiracy theories like this.
	I really enjoy hearing that, and I have always believed our presidents are pretty much completely controlled.
	I understand Reagan already had onset of dementia when he came into office.
	I don't think they had to do anything to him.
	What I'm missing, what maybe is the genius of what is Trump, there's no double.
	Well, that's debatable.
	Okay.
	Have you detected a double?
	Because we know Obama had a double.
	You know, there's supposed to be a double, and the double...
	Dick Gregory is the one who brought this up with all his conspiracy ideas, and he said there's two Trumps.
	The one with the blue tie is the double.
	And it's kind of crazy not to have a double, especially when a lot of people don't like you.
	But I don't know.
	You know, it seems to me that Obama was at least a slightly bit more generic We're good to go.
	In reference to an old show.
	That's the tell for Hillary's double.
	That it definitely exists.
	No doubt.
	Yeah, I think there's definitely a Hillary double.
	Well, anyway, so this war, and we've always known there are wars, and the picture to me becomes relatively clear.
	That the republic, that is the United States, kind of runs, runs.
	And the personalities in a lot of these organizations, a lot of the agencies within the federal government, are so large, and they run like a system.
	And taking the personality out doesn't necessarily change things overnight.
	And that's probably something that Trump has underestimated, thinking, I can talk to everybody.
	But it's really just not the way it works.
	And so his mission, I guess, then would be to blow stuff up.
	But in the meantime, whoever is in...
	And this is just the thesis that I'm working on.
	Whoever is in control of, quote, the White House, whether it's military intelligence or CIA, they kind of run things the way they see fit.
	And honestly, I would put my...
	Coming from a CIA family, pretty much, I still would prefer military intelligence because they just seem to have their head on straight.
	And this latest...
	That came from the new director, Mike Pompeo, who we don't really know much about him.
	I don't think you or I either like him that much.
	I know, but he's got a demeanor, and from what I can tell, just his demeanor...
	And some of the things he said, he has to be the biggest dick in the whole operation.
	Well, now we're down to a word game with this guy, which I'm happy about because it gives us a little more extra fun work to do.
	We had a lot of this with Obama.
	The words he used were always so precise and particular.
	You could never really catch him on a lie because they were the right words to at least...
	It's like there's no evidence that.
	That kind of stuff.
	So there's a...
	It's the Intelligence Authorization Act that, I don't know if it's approved, but there was some interesting language that got put into it which refers directly to what Mike Pompeo's CIA director says here.
	As a policy, the CIA does not comment on the accuracy of purported intelligence documents posted online.
	In keeping with that policy, I will not specifically comment on the authenticity or providence of recent disclosures.
	But the false narratives that increasingly define our public discourse cannot be ignored.
	There are fictions out there that demean and distort the work and achievements of the CIA and the intelligence community more broadly.
	And in the absence of a vocal rebuttal, these voices, once the proclaimed treason to be public advocacy, gain a gravity that they do not deserve.
	It's time to call these voices out.
	The men and women of the CIA deserve a real defense, as does our nation.
	And that's one of the reasons we as CIA find the celebration of entities like WikiLeaks to be both perplexing and deeply troubling.
	Because while we do our best to quietly collect information on those who pose very real threats to our country, individuals such as Julian Assange and Edward Snowden seek to use that information to make a name for themselves.
	As long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they cause to national security.
	WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service.
	And has encouraged its followers to find jobs at the CIA in order to obtain intelligence.
	It directed Chelsea Manning.
	I've never heard him say that.
	I haven't either.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	Well, maybe it's a post or something like that.
	But, hello, don't you think everyone's trying to get people into your...
	Well, actually, that's the point.
	What am I talking about?
	Almost done.
	In order to obtain intelligence, it directed Chelsea Manning in her theft of specific secret information.
	I like that he used the right pronoun.
	That was kind of cool.
	Not true.
	What?
	Chelsea Manning said this so herself.
	He, at the time, wasn't directed...
	By the WikiLeaks to go get that information.
	No.
	It was directed how to give it.
	This is one of those examples we keep talking about on the show.
	We try to rewrite history by just changing a word or two.
	He wasn't directed, but they've been trying to pin the fact that...
	If you remember, when Manning was first busted, they tried to find some way to prove that he was directed so they could blame...
	Say he was directed by Assange so they could go after Assange legally.
	Right.
	But they never could get that.
	So now all of a sudden it's a fact?
	That's what Pompeo just said.
	Yeah.
	And that doesn't even matter.
	Because what you needed to hear was already in the clip.
	And that is the same language that returns in the Authorization of Military Intelligence Act.
	One line, WikiLeaks resembles a non-state hostile intelligence service, and the U.S. government should treat it as such.
	Which means, anyone who has anything, perhaps even if you visit WikiLeaks.org, you can be spied on by, I would say in this case, NSA. It's a legal reasoning.
	So now anyone who has anything to do with WikiLeaks, immediately you are a member of a non-state hostile intelligence service, which is exactly why he's talking about trying to get people to join the CIA who are working for WikiLeaks.
	Yeah, you don't think Russia does that?
	You don't think ISI does?
	Well, no, ISI belongs to CIA. Yeah.
	You don't think that there are other state intelligence agencies who do that?
	Of course they do.
	This is now putting WikiLeaks on the same legal footing and anyone associated with WikiLeaks as a hostile intelligence service.
	FSB. Yeah, which means action can be taken.
	And it's disgusting.
	No, it is disgusting.
	But, I would be irked too if I had some of my stuff showing up on WikiLeaks because I couldn't secure it.
	I mean, whose fault is that?
	The fact that a lot of CIA material was recently put on WikiLeaks discussing all kinds of schemes and Which, by the way, gets zero traction no one cares about.
	No one cares.
	Never in the media.
	Ever.
	But people at the CIA care because maybe it's one of their schemes or their name is in there now, or even though I think they black most of that stuff out.
	And it's embarrassing.
	So because of embarrassment of not being able to secure this data, it's just like Equifax.
	Now there's this huge embarrassment, and there's supposed to be a secret spy agency.
	They should be able to secure these things, and they couldn't.
	So they're going to go after the guy who received it, you know, and published it to, I guess, humiliate him.
	Oh, really?
	Who published what?
	Oh, you were talking about WikiLeaks.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought it was something new about Equifax.
	No, no.
	No, no, I just mentioned that.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Yeah, well, maybe Equifax is publishing CIA secrets.
	Equifax apparently also has data on 44 million Brits.
	Whoops.
	None of this surprises me.
	But here's a question I had.
	Can we move past WikiLeaks?
	Anything else to say on that?
	I think I'm good.
	The whole concept of having your identity stolen warrants two seconds of thought.
	My identity is my identity.
	It's not stealable.
	It's me.
	It's in me.
	But it's now somehow become like a data product.
	And it is our identity.
	It's kind of an esoteric thought, but our identity is used mainly for authentication.
	Wouldn't you say?
	It's all about the last four digits of your social.
	It's all these things.
	Name me your first dog.
	Right.
	No, I'd be glad to discuss this a little bit because I've always been concerned about the fact that...
	And whose fault is this, by the way, that the banks, instead of meeting with you, going over your personal items, getting to know you, deciding that you're okay to give a home loan to, instead of doing all these things that you used to...
	With your loan officer.
	With a loan officer, someone who knows what they're doing, which is the way it was when I was a kid, even though I didn't get a home loan when I was a kid, but it's the way it was, to all of a sudden changing to, what's your FICA score?
	Uh-oh, too low, get out.
	So now you're just a number.
	But it also represents your full identity in every sense of the word, and it's very bizarre that your identity can be checked on by...
	And this nonsense about the social...
	Oh, your social security number's out there.
	Oh, keep it, protect your social security number.
	Every time you sign up for a job, you're giving them your social security number.
	Every time you do anything, you're giving your social security number.
	Then there's a situation where, oh, there's no reason to give the social security number to these guys.
	But if you don't give it to them, you won't get a job or you won't get an interview or you won't get this.
	So the social security number is just in the wild.
	And it's been released a number of times in various...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I want to see the ALGO. I want to see the calculation that comes up with my score.
	What is it based on?
	I think I have a right to know.
	I think you should, you do too.
	You know, we need to know what's up with the ALGOs.
	I love this.
	Now this whole thing is a disaster.
	That it's been allowed to happen.
	And if anybody's, the way I see it, if you can prove your identity, which you should be able to do with a fingerprint and a visit in the court, if somebody has stolen your identity and ripped the bank off for $10,000, $100,000, there should be a law, and some legislatures out there should think about this.
	If this happens to the bank, they should be completely liable for the whole thing.
	If they lost $100,000, they shouldn't be going after you.
	You didn't take out, you didn't rip them off.
	Yeah.
	Well, how is it your responsibility when you have your identity stolen and they steal money from someone?
	Using your identity.
	Why would that be your responsibility?
	Because when I was born with an identity, I didn't have to worry about it.
	My identity was effectively stolen by these shitty companies.
	And they're just passing it around and laying it out on the street.
	Whether it's valuable or not, I'm not too worried about, you know, hey, go ahead.
	Steal my bank account.
	Enjoy all $40.
	It's just that, I don't know, maybe it's the word that bugs me.
	And it flows neatly into the new iPhone, which, oh my god, that is a ruined company.
	A ruined, crippled company.
	It is.
	You know, I got a note in from a dude named Mohammed.
	Did you get the note?
	Oh, yeah.
	And like 10 minutes after we got his note, I started seeing memes similar to it on the face back.
	Go ahead.
	Tell everyone what you saw.
	It says, okay, this is how does a woman wearing a niqab or a burqa or any of these face coverings get to identify herself on an iPhone because it does face recognition as an identifier.
	Unless they have to disrobe or take this thing off.
	And in public, they're not supposed to do that and all the rest.
	And I'm thinking the thing is just naturally racist.
	Totally.
	It's Islamophobic with a small I. Big S. It's Islamophobic.
	Well, there's a lot of problems.
	I really don't understand.
	Well, I do understand.
	This is where engineering and design completely blew it.
	So design, Joni Ive, I'm just guessing, but this is what it seems like to me.
	It's not that hard to see.
	Like, oh, we're going to do glass on the back, glass on the front, glass all around.
	It's going to be beautiful glass.
	Just going to be fabulous.
	First thing I'd like to point out, have you seen any journalist discuss or ask, my God, ask Apple how fragile they are?
	And, you know, if you drop it, does the front and the back crack?
	He said very clearly, I've watched the whole presentation, he said very clearly that it's rugged.
	It's not going to crack.
	Rugged.
	I don't know what's wrong with you, Adam.
	Rugged.
	Rugged.
	Alright, fine.
	It's the strongest glass they've ever used.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Okay.
	I don't think you've ever had an iPhone, but believe me, I personally have at least cracked three or four screens.
	Anyway, will it even work properly without the touch ID with a case?
	Will you be able to hit the side perfectly enough?
	And the reason why they went with this face ID... It's because engineering and design couldn't work it out to put the touch sensor through this glass, the best, hardest glass rugged they've ever had.
	So they had to come up with a different way to unlock your phone.
	And it's so dumb.
	I mean, now, okay, I'm driving.
	I don't do this, but I'm driving and I want to text somebody.
	Now, I used to be able to just put my thumb on the phone and it opens up.
	Hold on, you're driving and you want to text somebody.
	I'm saying I don't do this.
	But drive on the road and you see this all the time.
	People are texting.
	Unfortunately.
	So now they have to put the phone up in front of their face or look down, give it attention, avert your eyes from the road to unlock.
	It's dangerous.
	Does anybody but me think that maybe this is a way to collect the 3D? Because it's just a 3D photo.
	It's not just your face, but they, because they showed it on the screen, it shows that the final capture, the final image capture is like a head, then they move it around in 3D. So it's like a 3D head when you do this, when you first get your first picture of yourself.
	And that this is just a collection of 3D images of everybody's face that owns one of these devices that should be, it's probably sitting there in the files at the NSA in Utah?
	Well, you know, the claim was it's in the secure enclave and everyone was kind of happy with that.
	Regarding the touch ID, the same thing with your fingerprints, they're not actually stored on the cloud anywhere.
	So they claim.
	I have no reason to not believe them.
	Well, it might be, but that's beside the point if there's someday in the future, and very few companies stay intact their entire life, and somebody buys the company, or they merge with somebody else, and then they have a different attitude about things.
	Yeah, that could be.
	Absolutely.
	But the idea of the secure enclave is even Apple can't open it up.
	That's the idea.
	Oh, sure.
	We learned that from the San Bernardino terrorist attack.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, you're in a meeting, you know, you just want to, you know, check your phone or send a message real quick.
	You have to avert your eyes.
	You can't do any...
	You have to make a specific action now with your eyes and your focus to unlock your phone.
	I can just see...
	They show it.
	It's very fast.
	Yeah, but I can see many scenarios where that's just...
	It's like the elevators here.
	Oh, it's so cool, the elevators.
	Yeah.
	But they've added five steps.
	The interface for the elevator was easy.
	Get in, press the button, get off on the floor.
	When you hear the ding, see your number.
	Now it's scan your card, select your level grouping, select your level.
	Remember which elevator is coming.
	Get in that elevator.
	Yes, I don't like that elevator system either.
	But I just think Apple is completely crippled.
	They have nothing.
	It's short Apple, I guess.
	No, not yet.
	Yeah, no, you might as well.
	You'll be a miserable person if you try to short Apple at the moment.
	You will.
	I was watching the stock.
	So what the smart money should have done, I do have a report, we can play it, is you should have shorted Orange Juice Futures.
	Oh?
	What was I thinking?
	Orange Juice Futures?
	Hold on.
	Yeah, I got it here.
	What's the...
	Oh, Irma.
	Yes, got it.
	Bahorquez with the relief effort.
	Thanks, Manuel.
	Most years, Florida supplies about half of America's orange juice, but Irma wiped out much of this year's crop in just a few hours.
	It's another body blow for farmers who've battled a devastating crop disease for years.
	Here's Carter Evans.
	We're down about a foot from where we were earlier this morning.
	More than 60% of Paul Meador's crop is either in the water or in the dirt.
	Thousands of trees were ripped out of the ground by Hurricane Irma's blistering winds.
	And it's not salvageable either.
	Not any part of it.
	This normally would not be harvested until April or May.
	His crop was destined to become orange juice, but now with much of it floating in three feet of flood water, it looks more like an orange soup.
	As you can see by the amount of fruit on the ground, this is more than an average crop.
	This was a banner year.
	It was a banner year.
	If we had delivered this crop in, we probably would have been back in the black for the first time in a very long time.
	But all that fruit made these trees top-heavy, pushovers for Irma.
	And trees left in the water for more than three days could also rot or die.
	Meador's losses could be up to $9 million.
	And he's not the only one.
	We have 125,000 acres of citrus groves in this area.
	What percentage of those crops do you think was damaged?
	All.
	Every acre of that 125,000 acres.
	Gene McAvoy is an agriculture expert with the University of Florida.
	Lost it all, the whole Florida, South Florida citrus.
	You know, that's what good traders do.
	They think about stuff like that.
	You know, we were thinking about the people, stupid.
	And since it was a bumper crop on the way, that means the thing would have been depressed in terms of the futures.
	So you would have made out like a bandit if you had spotted this early enough and taken some action.
	But, of course, that didn't happen.
	There was a big telethon, although I'm trying to find the ratings, I don't think the ratings were very good.
	This was the big telethon on Tuesday night?
	I saw part of it.
	I have the opening.
	The opening with Stevie Wonder on the keyboards.
	We've come together today to love on the people that have been devastated by the hurricanes.
	When love goes into action, it preferences no color of skin, no ethnicity, No religious beliefs, no sexual preferences, and no political persuasions.
	It just loves.
	As we should begin to love and value our planet, and anyone who believes that there is no such thing as global warming must be blind or unintelligent.
	Lord, please save us all.
	Man, we're all going to die.
	They raised $14 million during the one-hour show, of which $5 million came from Apple.
	Uh...
	Albertson and Merck, a million, so that's seven.
	I guess they really only raised about seven or eight million dollars, and everybody turned out.
	I can't find ratings numbers.
	I have a feeling that it was very lowly rated.
	I don't think anyone cares anymore.
	But it wasn't promoted.
	It was poorly promoted.
	I heard someone mention it, but I didn't see any ads.
	It seemed kind of like, oh yeah, we've got to do our benefit.
	Let's go and hang out with everybody.
	Yeah, so it's just a drinking club.
	I mean, they could have all just pitched in some money that would have raised more.
	I don't think people cared.
	And there's a lot of issues with just donating.
	And I finally got someone of authority regarding my favorite organization.
	This is Dave Martin, representative for Houston.
	He's in a council meeting with the mayor of With the mayor of Houston.
	He's a representative for Texas, I'm sorry.
	He's in a meeting with the mayor from Houston, and here's what he said at the end of his little meeting.
	Those folks in San Antonio that are doing a great job.
	Now, my last rant will be on the Red Lost.
	I'm sorry, the Red Cross.
	Because the Red Cross, if anybody wants to donate to the Red Cross, please call me.
	I beg you not to send them a penny.
	They are the most inept, unorganized organization that I've ever experienced.
	Amen.
	I've been in Kingwood fighting this thing and we have not seen one person, not a single person from the Red Lost.
	Yet, every time I turn on the TV, they're receiving multi, multi-hundreds of millions of dollars.
	What are you guys doing with it?
	How many contractors are you helping us with?
	So, to this day, many days after the hurricane hit, I have not seen a single person in Kingwood or in Clear Lake that's a representative of the Red Cross.
	You know who opened our shelters?
	We did.
	You know who sent water and supplies?
	We did.
	People didn't have cots.
	We got them blankets.
	We didn't get a darn thing from the Red Cross.
	So, if anybody wants to send them money, don't waste your time.
	Don't waste your money.
	Send it to other causes.
	Thank you, man.
	Whoa!
	You got butt slammed!
	Ho, ho, ho, ho!
	Wow.
	Red lost.
	I like that.
	Red lost.
	But he shouldn't have used it twice.
	It was funny the first time, but then he spiked it by doing it again.
	Yeah, yeah, I agree.
	That's too bad.
	Unless you did it over and over and over, and then it would have just been tedious.
	A lot of climate change-related questions surrounding what happened with our multiple hurricanes and an earthquake, which, according to Beyonce, I didn't get the clip, but that's also due to climate change.
	Here's Jim Acosta asking the White House climate change guy, I forget his name.
	What's his name now?
	Anyway, asking, well, this.
	And just to follow up on that, when you see three Category 4 hurricanes all on the same map at the same time, does the thought occur to you?
	Hold on!
	I know.
	Where did Jose go?
	Well, Jose is beside the point that one that hit Mexico was never a four.
	I think he's referring to Jose, not to Mexico.
	No, no, he said three.
	So he's talking about Katrina, Katina.
	No, Harvey, Irma, Jose.
	There was an earthquake in Mexico.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought...
	It was an earthquake.
	You're a little confused.
	Okay.
	You back?
	No, there was a tornado, but it was the one that was...
	There was a small hurricane that hit Mexico that was a two or three.
	I think the jury will disregard your remark.
	And just to follow up on that, when you see three Category 4 hurricanes all on the same map at the same time, does the thought occur to you, jeez, you know, maybe there is something to this climate change thing and its connection to powerful hurricanes.
	I love it.
	You think there's something to this climate change thing?
	You think?
	And it seems like there is...
	Well, it has to be.
	Well...
	Catia.
	Hurricane Catia.
	Oh, Katia?
	Katia.
	Katia.
	Oh, that's what hit Mexico?
	Yeah.
	It's okay.
	I know you're right, but I think he's referring to these others.
	It says Hurricane Catia hits Mexico while Jose just misses something.
	Yeah.
	Here's the answer.
	If there's something to that climate change thing, and this is the official answer from the White House.
	I will tell you that we continue to take seriously the climate change, not the cause of it, but the things that we observe.
	And so there's rising floodwaters, I think, one inch every 10 years in Tampa, things that would require prudent mitigation measures.
	And what I said from the podium the other day, and what President Trump remains committed to, We're good to go.
	The scientists for their forecast on this particular one, they were dead on that this would be a stronger and more powerful hurricane season with slightly more than average large storms making landfall in the United States.
	So we'll have to do a larger trend analysis at a later date.
	We could have power down in homes for the coming weeks.
	Now, his answer, which is pretty much, well, and we're not denying climate change, we're just not entirely in agreement with what causes it, if it's made by humans, and what we should do about it.
	And I think there is a subtle hijack in progress, one that I might actually be on board with, and even crazier, coming from John McCain.
	I really do not like, but I will say, in the sunset of his, in the twilight of his life, the Democrats love him.
	The left loves McCain.
	Ever since the brain cancer, oh my God.
	Listen to anyone.
	Oh, John McCain.
	Yes, I've had the pleasure of working with him.
	I interviewed him in 1982.
	He's such a great guy.
	Whereas, you know, in the past 10 years, they've done nothing but hate him.
	But...
	I think the subtle hijack, and we know McCain, whatever, if there's money from a complex, whether it's industrial or maybe it's the electrical complex, we've got to come up with a full name, I don't put it past him to tout the message that Yeah, he's in it for the money.
	So I think the subtle hijack that is in place is, okay, climate change is happening, and why it's happening, we'll leave that to the scientists, we'll just kind of gloss over that, but we have some industries we want to promote.
	The Republican Party, as you know, generally speaking, acts as if climate change is not real.
	There are exceptions.
	You, your daughter Megan, the Republican mayor of Miami.
	But generally speaking, the president, the governor of Florida, et cetera, acts as if it's not real, even though the overwhelming scientific consensus is that it's real and it's manmade.
	Why?
	I don't know, because I can't divine their motives, but I know this, that there is things happening with the climate in the world that is unprecedented.
	Second of all, we need to have, in my view, nuclear power as part of the answer.
	What?
	They drafted John McCain.
	Well, they finally got smart.
	Somebody.
	That's really good.
	So, he's going to go on about nuclear power, which is the first I've really heard someone come out recently and say, hey, this is truly renewable energy.
	Now, he lives in Arizona, which he'll refer to, so there's a lot of subsidies.
	He never says it's renewable because it's not renewable.
	Yeah, the new reactors are.
	It's not fully renewable.
	It's a little bit taken out and they recycle.
	They can recycle it to a point, but you can't do it for infinity.
	Agreed.
	Just like you can't take the sunlight you already used and use it over again.
	Yes.
	To me, a renewable energy, if you want to really go for renewable energy to me, The best kind or the most renewable of all energy to me is trees.
	We should burn wood.
	They always grow back.
	The forests renew.
	You replant trees.
	We should be just a wood-burning economy.
	That's fully renewable.
	And as we know, you can drive your car on wood-burning fuel, no problem.
	There's plenty of people who do it.
	We've talked about this before.
	People who have the wood chip burner.
	Yeah, cars used to run on wood chips.
	Well, during World War II, apparently, there was a lot of makeshift craziness done to get the internal combustion engines that don't need much...
	Yeah, just a little bit of something explosive and it'll work.
	Yeah, the wood chip thing is really fantastic.
	You should look it up.
	Anyway, he's also going to give a little shout out to the subsidies from the solar companies.
	Nuclear power is part of the answer.
	It's the cleanest, cheapest.
	In many ways, a source of power.
	My friends in the environmental community refuse to make that part of the equation.
	I'm not saying it is the equation, but I'm saying it's got to be part of it because they're basically anti-nuclear.
	Now, I spun off a little bit there, but we have to understand that the climate may be changing.
	And we can take common sense measures which will not harm the American people in our economy.
	In fact, solar and other technologies make it cheaper for energy for many of the American people, including a state like mine where we have lots of sunshine.
	So I think it's time for us to sit down again.
	Just throw that in there.
	I think there's a hijack in progress, because everybody knows when you have a movement like this, the whole idea is it's a money-making opportunity.
	Al Gore sees it, that he's raking it in with what he does.
	Solar companies subsidize, Tesla subsidized.
	By the way, people in Houston and Miami and Florida, South Florida, still have no power.
	They could be out for weeks.
	It's going to be great with your Tesla.
	Which, we didn't even talk about how they extended the battery range.
	I found that to be peculiar.
	Nobody's really discussing it in any detail, and Tesla's never really explained this, but if they're, you can't, what they did was against the laws of physics.
	Okay.
	If indeed, the batteries were performing at maximal output.
	So I have to assume that they've got these things geared down.
	Yes.
	That has been explained.
	Yeah, well, what's the explanation?
	Give it to me.
	The explanation is you can buy a cheaper Tesla because it has the, I think it's the 60 kilowatt hour battery, or battery power, I should say, versus 75.
	And while people were probably thinking, oh, I have a smaller battery because it costs several thousand dollars to upgrade, they actually were giving you a crippled output battery And then if you paid the extra VIG, then it's like unlocking a feature in a game.
	That's really the conversation that needs to be had.
	Who owns your car?
	And if they can increase your range, can they also decrease it?
	Say they got a national security letter or other court order.
	Can they just stop it?
	I would think so.
	Apparently, yes.
	What if someone, you know, they're moving all of their driver profiles to the cloud?
	What if it's hacked?
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is some very...
	This is that all I see is trouble ahead.
	Trouble ahead.
	I agree.
	I see.
	I totally agree.
	It's just trouble, man.
	And nobody is pointing it out.
	I mean, nobody's, you know, they're saying, oh, that's interesting.
	Oh, that's cool.
	Cool.
	Oh, that's cool.
	That's cool they could do that.
	That's cool.
	Not noticing that, you know, this reminds me, there's a couple of hard disk companies that have done this in the past.
	In the days when the hard disks weren't as quite as...
	Well made.
	And they would test them and they'd be making a batch of 30 megabytes, something like 100 megabyte drives, not even gigabyte.
	And they'd be making these things and they'd come in off spec.
	And you'd go back with all the off spec ones and say, well, how much can we get out of these?
	Well, I think by blocking off most of the bad sectors, we can get 40 megabytes.
	Okay, we'll sell them as 40 megabyte drives.
	And there's guys, you know, the same thing with chips.
	Many of them are, you know, they can't meet spec, even though some of them probably could.
	And that's why you have all these guys, you know, boosting them or some sleazeballs grabbing the 40 megabyte drives and then reformatting for 100 megabytes, selling them as 100 megabytes even though they fall apart.
	I mean, this whole thing is an old Silicon Valley trick, trick, that really needs to be busted out as, hey, hey, hey, what are you selling me this stuff is?
	In fact, the originator of this, according to, at least historically, I think, began with the IBM Belt Drive printer.
	Well, this is good history.
	They had a printer that they used to make, and usually there's so many lines, you know, there's a line printer, bang, and print a line, and chung, chung, chung, all of these, you know, the paper with the holes on the side.
	And they decided to come out with an upgraded version of the thing, and all the upgrade was was a technician coming out and changing one of the gears in there, so it just ran twice as fast.
	It was the same printer.
	Yeah, cool.
	And this is why you're paying more for what you...
	You already bought this thing.
	Well, people are...
	John, people are used to this.
	I find the whole thing to be just demoralizing.
	Yeah, and I've got a little hut in the woods with Professor Ted you can join if you want.
	Because it's really...
	It's in the Smithsonian.
	Yeah.
	People really don't...
	I just see it so clearly.
	I see all the problems coming down the pike.
	And the main thing is, and it already may be this way with Tesla owners, once you are signing a EULA, an end-user license agreement, for your car, which you purchase, it'll just be like music or books.
	No, I bought a book.
	I said, Tina, I want you to read this book.
	I have to physically hand her my Kindle.
	You know, I don't own that book.
	I can't do with it whatever I want.
	And now you have the same with the car.
	You can't really do much to it.
	You probably can't repair it.
	I see the day when you can't even sell it.
	Oh.
	Without going through the official channels?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Well, especially with what you say is true, they can just do stuff remotely.
	And so if you sold the car privately...
	Well, they appear to be able to turn everything on and off.
	Yeah, just turn off the whole car so you didn't go through channels.
	I mean, we already have versions...
	It says, right, clearly here in the EULA, you've got to go through us to sell the car.
	Stop your car.
	Or just make it...
	Maybe, well, you know, he was arrested once for DUI. Tesla, we have now determined that you should geofence his vehicle.
	It can't go in certain areas or maybe limit the top speed.
	There's a lot of things that could be done.
	Yeah.
	And Tesla's not above all.
	And will be done, by the way.
	Yeah.
	And Tesla's not above all.
	And of course, I've always thought that this smog bull crap, especially in California where you take your car and, you know, at some point they'll be downloading your computer from the car and finding out where you broke the speed limits and where you were when you did it because they have GPS in most of the new cars.
	And they can just see, well, here you were in San Diego on this street and you went 40 and it's a 25 zone.
	You know, here's your ticket.
	Yeah.
	Dumb you.
	Dumb, dumb you.
	And to be honest about it, I don't see why they're not doing that now.
	I think people might be up in arms if they do it now.
	Or it might hurt.
	Yeah, I think they have to wait.
	Here's what you have to do if you're looking at this in the big picture.
	You have to wait for all the old cars to get off the road because once they start doing this, people are going to say, well, hell, I'm going to buy this 10-year-old car rather than this new car.
	But this is already being taken care of.
	You see it in Europe now where diesel cars and trucks older than, I think, 1987 are no longer allowed in the cities.
	You can't drive into the city with an older car if it's a diesel.
	This will happen everywhere.
	Yeah, some version of it.
	Hey, that's a nice bleak outlook.
	Well, it's a bleak day.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C. where the C stands for...
	Cancun Hurricane Dvorak!
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships and sea blitz on the ground, feet in the air, sub-state water, neighbors, and nights out there.
	In the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com, where we do the show live every Thursday and Sunday morning at 9 a.m.
	Pacific Standard Time, or Daylight Time.
	And also...
	In the morning to Nick the Rat.
	He got it.
	He did it again.
	He brought us the artwork for episode 9063 titled Born This Way.
	Oh, I have to play something for you.
	A little snippet.
	This will be an end-of-show song.
	You asked for it.
	Born gay.
	They call me a ho-ho.
	That's the Algo born gay song.
	Born gay.
	Okay.
	It's really funny.
	It sounds funny already.
	It's in regard to the algos being able to determine if you're gay or not.
	So this was put an egg on it.
	Yeah.
	Because the egg is, you know, they're destroying eggs all over Europe because they're poison.
	Put an egg on the coffin.
	Yeah, so put an egg on my dead body.
	And he did that in the grave.
	Good work.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload your art.
	We check it right after we're done recording the live show.
	And, you know, this one, I think, stood out above all else.
	And we just went, yeah, that's the one.
	So let's thank a few people for being executive producers and associate executive producers for the show, 964.
	Jonathan Calvert, $666, 666.
	Mark of the Demon from Washington, D.C., appropriately enough.
	I would like to contribute this donation of 666, the Devil's Dollars, as a means of showing my support to the production of the best podcasts in the multiverse.
	How important no agenda is when you are mired in dimensional madness as I am in D.C. The department building where I live has no children but plenty of dogs.
	The new child.
	Dogs is the new children.
	Yes, dogs is the new children.
	This weekend promises a conflicting simultaneous march of Trump supporters and juggalos on the National Mall.
	A recent Rolling Stone article, people should look up juggalo.
	A recent Rolling Stone article described thus, a viral cage match style flyer.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, same thing.
	I'm sorry, I'm confused.
	My cold read sucks today.
	Finally, I would just like to especially thank Adam...
	For NoAgendaSocial.com, which is the only social media platform worth a beanie coin.
	Two things.
	One, I absolutely agree.
	NoAgendaSocial.com is great.
	Open registration right now.
	We'll close it up at a certain point.
	It's costing me hundreds of dollars a month, by the way, in storage.
	It's like running Twitter.
	Running your own Twitter is not cheap.
	But it's a personal experiment, and I really like it, and I think it's very interesting for so many reasons, but give it a shot.
	Now, the beanie coin, I did have a meeting with the guys who want to do a beanie coin for us, although the timing seems so good.
	I have a guy, too.
	But the timing is a little crappy right now, with China shutting down and Bitcoin tanking.
	Yeah, it'll come back.
	They wanted us to pay for it.
	Oh.
	I don't know about that.
	I would like to request the Bugs jingle and dating karma since the last gap date socialist activists.
	Could you repeat that?
	You dropped out for a second.
	The last sentence.
	Oh.
	Hmm.
	I would like to request the bugs jingle and dating karma since the last gal I went on a date with told me she only wanted to date socialist activists.
	Can you imagine?
	Was it on her Tinder profile?
	I believe my donation qualifies me for knighthood accounting attached.
	I would humbly request the title of Sir Johnny the Swamp Knight to join the roundtable.
	You got it, Sir Johnny.
	Johnny, I look forward to your ceremony.
	Johnny.
	I love bugs.
	Johnny. Johnny. Bugs, bugs, bugs.
	Johnny, the swarm night.
	You've got karma.
	Tastes like poo.
	Yes.
	Sorry about the nutball.
	Especially in Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C.'s were single guys go to live their dreams because it's like five women for every man.
	Is this a fact?
	It's very high.
	The number is extremely slanted because of the giant bureaucracies and they use a lot of women to Because I guess they work cheap.
	That's misogynistic.
	That's a fact.
	And so you have a lot of dating action.
	And so you can get dates there without having to...
	They're not all communists.
	I'm sure a few are.
	But I don't know.
	This is a good tip.
	Good tip for all the single boys out there.
	Move to D.C. Good tip.
	Mike Scalora, $555.55.
	I started listening to Adam's Daily Source Code as a programmer.
	I was expecting...
	Hold on, stop.
	DC girl in the chat room.
	She's from DC. I met my husband the week we moved from Pennsylvania.
	You have to jump on fresh meat, yo.
	So it's true.
	Fact.
	Well, I know women...
	Complain bitterly about the dating scene in D.C. because there's no men.
	Yeah, apparently.
	That's what she's actually talking about.
	She's the one who jumped on the fresh meat.
	Yo.
	You gotta add the yo, otherwise it doesn't work.
	Yo.
	All right.
	Sorry.
	Okay, back to my mics galore.
	I started listening to Adam's Daily Source Code as a programmer, and I was expecting you would read some actual source code aloud so I could type it into my Commodore 64 or Timex Sinclair.
	Ten.
	Space.
	That's great.
	It's like that numbers broadcast.
	Peak 64, 124.
	Close parens.
	Poke.
	Poke.
	Oh, yeah.
	Good times.
	I remember it well.
	No, no, that's not what we did.
	Yeah, okay.
	With the previous donations, this brings my donations over the knighthood threshold.
	For the title, I'd like to be known as Sir Mike Knight of the Gigaverse.
	He wants to be pronounced Gigaverse.
	Beautiful.
	So I'll have better data sim luck on my next trip to Italy.
	Douchebag call out.
	My good friend Double D. Oh, as a douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	Who I hit in the mouth about eight or nine years ago recently passed the bar exam so he no longer...
	I was thinking it was a woman.
	So he no longer has an excuse and is long overdue.
	I would appreciate karma for my startup and the jingles ISIS ISIS baby and we're all gonna die in honor of Irma.
	Reward request.
	Tofu and turmeric.
	We're all gonna die.
	No, tofu.
	He wants you to put tofu and turmeric in the call out at the end.
	Ah, okay.
	Tofu and turmeric.
	I'll do it.
	Isis, Isis, baby.
	ISIS, ISIS, baby.
	We're all gonna die.
	You've got karma. .
	Tofu and turmeric.
	And I believe that's the new We're All Gonna Die.
	That is the new one, yeah.
	I kind of like the new one.
	Can you play the old one for old time's sake so people can realize how much better this one is?
	Uh...
	Yes.
	Okay, so here's the old one.
	We're all gonna die!
	Which came from a cartoon or something.
	And this is the new one.
	We're all gonna It just sounds so much more authentic.
	Yeah.
	The other one's just a clip from some old cartoon or something like that.
	So it's done.
	All right.
	I'd like to do it.
	Executive meeting over.
	Yes.
	That's the way we do it.
	Done.
	My name is NYC Anon.
	This is NYC Anon.
	$333.33 out of New York City.
	With the recent catastrophic docks of half of the country's usury info, I, this is talking about Equifax.
	Oh, yes.
	No one knows what usury means anymore.
	I feel it may be time to hedge my bets.
	Please grant all listeners credit karma and play the shape-shifting Jews jingle and a dedouching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Here we go.
	Roll up for the basketball safety news.
	Step right this way.
	Roll up.
	Roll up for the safety news.
	You've got karma.
	.
	you you you And then next on the list is Timnonymous, who sends his check in every so often.
	This was a bigger one than usual.
	This is $333.33.
	Thank you.
	And he had a note attached that says, I'm not overboard.
	No, we didn't think you were Timnonymous.
	Timnonymous.
	Thank you very much.
	Ron Gardner in San Diego, California, drops down to associate executive producer with $265.
	Please accept this donation of $265 for Adam's birthday month.
	My family and I are contributing the love and for being the greatest podcast in the universe.
	I'd like to thank my son, Rhett, for hitting me in the mouth around show 789, which has led me to many an insightful discussion with he and my son, Jace, who are two of the most astute, well-grounded millennials.
	I know.
	No swollen amygdalas here.
	With that said, could you give us a de-douching?
	And as for Jingles Can I Get Obama's You Might Die, Two to the Head, and Little Girl Boom Shakalaka.
	Donating to the Value for Value model has also led me to knighthood, accounting and clothes.
	From here forth, I'd like to be known as Sir Ronald Gardner of Insane Diego.
	And surrounding waters.
	The outmost thanks to you both for your exceptional work and for keeping us all sane.
	Thank you for your courage.
	All right.
	Looking forward to that nighting as well.
	Fantastic.
	You might die.
	Boo-chaka-laka.
	Boo-chaka-laka!
	You've got karma. .
	And last on our list of well-wishers and producers, Alex Kroke, K-R-O-K-E, $220.
	Hi, boys.
	Hi.
	Late birthday donation.
	I have been a...
	Do you have him on the birthday list?
	I don't think so.
	Oh, maybe not.
	No, it's your birthday.
	It's your birthday.
	Yeah, I was on the list.
	Have been a lister since the beginning.
	Love to have any reverend clip and a jobs karma.
	I'm a freelance photographer and always looking for new gigs.
	Ciao.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, I haven't done this one in a while.
	Now get out there and whoop Obama's behind!
	Whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin' what the constitution!
	I hate it now!
	Whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin' whoopin' what the constitution! Whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin' all the male behind!
	A constitution!
	Whoopin'!
	You've got karma.
	An oldie but goodie.
	Yeah, that's a classic.
	Before we move on, I have a PR mention.
	I wanted to do the PR mention.
	I want to make sure we re-thank everybody that helped us out here at the beginning of the show.
	No, of course.
	I always thank everybody.
	But I just have a PR mention before we thank everybody.
	And this is the No Agenda Value for Value Calculator, which has been on our list for a month, longer actually.
	And now this is Jeff Dugweiler.
	And Jeff Dugweiler, you know, he's a strong supporter of the show.
	And we just can't get our shit together.
	Because I've reviewed it, John.
	And I think we should just promote it and let's see how it does.
	Okay.
	And just go to it right now.
	You have to see it.
	I'll put it in the newsletter.
	Yeah, it's NAVFVC. NoagendaForValueC.com.
	What is that?
	What's the errant C for there?
	Oh, calculator, of course.
	NAVFVC. VFVC, the No Agenda Value for Value Calculator.
	So it pops up, you get, when did you last donate?
	So I'll say, it defaults to one year plus.
	Then what's your desired level?
	Monthly subscription, broke millennial, anonymous donation, producer, associate, executive, or day trader?
	Day trader!
	I'm going to put day trader.
	I'm doing day trader.
	All right.
	Boom!
	Oh, man.
	I owe $655 by being a day trader.
	I owe $885.
	Because I have $343.78 for patience.
	Oh, actually, no.
	I got a bunch of different ones.
	It gives you a bunch of different ones.
	Yeah.
	And then there's PayPal links.
	I want you to do the total.
	Equipment maintenance fee, value-added tax.
	It's very funny.
	It's a good number.
	But look at the links.
	PayPal, PopMoney, PayElectric, through the website.
	I think he put a lot of work into this.
	We'll promote it.
	Yeah.
	Let's see how it does.
	At least it's fun.
	Let's see what a broke millennial would have to do.
	22 bucks.
	Boom.
	Good.
	That's perfect.
	It doesn't even ask you any other questions, just straight to 22 bucks?
	I love it.
	I love it.
	We really appreciate that, Jeff Dugweiler, or as Japan's automatic PayPal name reversal, Dugweiler Jeff.
	I guess they do that in Japan.
	And yeah, so thank you for your courage.
	And thank you to every executive producer and associate executive producer today.
	Nice list.
	Thank you.
	Really appreciate it.
	Also the belated birthday greetings and a couple of nights in there.
	So very much look forward to the ceremony.
	Later today.
	And we have another show coming up on Sunday.
	It's Sunday show day.
	Anything can be crazy can go wrong or go right.
	We need your support for that as well.
	And we'll be thanking everybody else, $50 and above, later on in the program.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	I got a cool note.
	We were wondering if people discuss us in the deep state.
	Yeah, this is a good note.
	Good note.
	Yeah, from producer Jim.
	gents on the heels of my q3 donation i wanted to confirm your supposition that listeners of the show include many diverse actors operating directly and on the periphery of governments and the deep state and to my knowledge the industrial military industrial complex i learned about the show from a group of people associated with the business of global arms sales think general dynamics etc
	these guys listen to the show to get a gauge of how much the m5m is aware and reporting on global weapons contracts which deals are being reported on and the angle the stories take I think it's also about ego with them.
	Yeah, of course.
	I imagine them sitting around the water cooler.
	Hey, fellas.
	Remember my deal last month with seven skids of the 105mm long-range tank rounds I sold to the Saudis?
	Well, boom!
	Got coverage on no agenda.
	Hell yeah.
	I like that.
	Yes, we keep up on it.
	And you guys should send us more info.
	Yeah, we need more info.
	On the latest sales so we can talk about it.
	We're happy to talk about your sales.
	We're number one.
	We're talking about sales.
	Yeah, let's talk about sales.
	This is a sales report from the Middle East.
	Adam, go ahead.
	Well, we have 32 prospects.
	It can just go on forever.
	You know, just saying back to the hurricanes for a moment.
	Democracy Now!
	had some wunderkind on.
	And this is something like a very young PhD from Berkeley who I think graduated when he was 16 or something.
	And let me see.
	This is the first report here.
	And it ties in with something that we identified a couple of weeks ago with the extinction tattoo.
	You remember that?
	It's like a big X and it's a tattoo that shows you understand that the sixth mass extinction is on the way and we're all going to die.
	We're all going to die.
	As the United States continues to deal with unprecedented floods and hurricanes, a new study has revealed climate change is also driving the mass extinction of parasites that are critical to natural ecosystems and could add to the planet's sixth great mass extinction event that's currently underway.
	Now, is this a fact?
	Is this a fact that the sixth great mass extinction event is currently underway?
	Well, unless an asteroid just hit the planet, I don't think so.
	The report in the journal Science Advances warns that about a third of all parasite species could go extinct by 2070 due to human activity.
	The loss of species of lice, fleas, and worms could have profound ripple effects on the environment and might pave the way for new parasites to colonize humans and other animals with disastrous health outcomes.
	For more, we're joined by Colin Carlson, lead author of a report published last week which revealed climate change is driving the mass extinction of parasites that are critical to natural ecosystems.
	He's a PhD candidate in environmental science policy and management at the University of California, Berkeley.
	So you want to hear this kid?
	Do you know that at Cal Berkeley?
	Because that degree is not on the catalog, I can assure you.
	Management is something, something in policy.
	Oh, it's a climate change policy division.
	It's communicating climate change.
	Every university has it.
	Cal Berkeley, unbeknownst to a lot of people, but everyone goes there.
	You can actually get a...
	You can design a degree.
	Oh, really?
	Can you get a degree in degree designing?
	Yeah.
	You could, if you actually put a curriculum together.
	How about podcasting?
	You could probably get a degree in podcasting.
	No, could I create a degree in podcasting and be the one who hands them out?
	No.
	No, you don't get to hand out stuff.
	Not me.
	Slave.
	Let's listen to this kid, Colin Carlson, lead researcher of the Parasite Extinction Report.
	So I think the key thing that we need to get out there is that there's a lot of things about climate change we still don't know.
	We spent a lot of time in the last 15-20 years focusing on the extinction of big charismatic wildlife, and we've thought a little bit about how that might impact their parasites.
	But the direct impacts of climate change on parasites haven't been as well studied.
	So our research comes out and sort of does this global survey and really thinks through, okay, how good or bad could climate change be for parasites?
	And it turns out...
	Weeks go by I don't think about that.
	I wonder, how will climate change affect parasites?
	Parasites follow the same logic most species do.
	A handful do a little bit better in a changing climate, and the vast majority actually do a lot worse.
	They lose a lot of habitat, they lose their hosts, they face very high extinction rates.
	So I think one of the really cool things about parasites is that we have undervalued them for decades.
	And that means that when it turns out they actually serve important roles in ecosystems, it's all the more surprising.
	Parasites are a huge part of what holds ecosystems together.
	They can be the majority of biomass in an ecosystem.
	They can be 80% of the lynx in a food web.
	They control wildlife populations.
	They keep populations down just like predators do.
	And just like predators in the 18th and 19th century when we were eradicating them, Parasites are, obviously, a hard sell.
	But it turns out they play this important regulatory role.
	And what we think could happen in a changing climate is, with these very high extinction rates, the loss of that stabilizing role could produce opportunities for new patterns of wildlife and human disease that are genuinely concerning.
	Now, here's my question.
	Isn't that just the normal course of things?
	You know, parasites come, parasites go.
	Isn't that just evolution, which I'm sure he believes in?
	I wonder what kind of women he attracts.
	The kid, he's like 18 or 19.
	Give him a break.
	He's super genius.
	But still.
	Now, if this was on a network, I think it was just a promotion for Young Sheldon, which promises to be the hot new show on CBS. They're really milking that show, aren't they?
	They'll do anything they can.
	Well, if you looked at the lineup, because I watched the whole lineup of all this stuff coming out on CBS, I think they're all dogs except for that show.
	And that show's doomed because it's got a child actor, and so he can't, you know, once he gets...
	Two or three years older, the show is wrecked.
	But okay, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry I went off topic.
	But back to Parasites.
	Yes.
	So there's just a lot in here.
	There's the sixth mass extinction, which is currently underway.
	We're all dying.
	It's mass extinction.
	And then there's, I think, guess we've got to save the parasites now?
	Are we doing it to save the parasites?
	I think we need a bumper sticker.
	Yes, save the ticks.
	It's multifunctional.
	I can use it for my Tourette's, too.
	I can use it for any.
	Oh, yes.
	Save the ticks.
	But it seems really misguided.
	It seems misguided, you know?
	Why?
	Well, because this is evolution.
	He said himself, you know, when the climate comes and something goes.
	Yeah, but maybe, oh, we have to be careful about that, or we have to donate money.
	These new things are going to come around to kill us.
	This is all, this is that scare-em, scare-em approach to life.
	Send money to the Red Cross.
	We're all going to die.
	You sent me a show notes link, which I thought it would be good to talk about anyway, about Myanmar, the conflict currently.
	Yeah, I have a couple clips that we can talk about.
	Which, by the way, we should make a...
	I would like to determine in our style guide, we'll just call it Burma.
	Yeah, we could call it Burma.
	This Myanmar thing is bullcrap.
	Well...
	Burma.
	Okay, Burma.
	Well, they got all hell breaking loose.
	But when you read that article, which is the...
	Why don't you click on that and give me the title of that.
	It's a wiki page entry, but it's not Burma.
	It's a specific...
	It says internal conflict in Myanmar.
	Yeah.
	Internal conflict in Myanmar.
	I would recommend...
	Anyone who's interested in this topic, go read that entry because it's outstanding history.
	And this has been going on apparently in Burma.
	And please do it if only to look at the map so you understand where Burma, Myanmar is.
	So you understand why it's of great importance to a lot of people.
	So let's play the clip and what's the Myanmar clip.
	One.
	We begin the day with a lot of outrage at the United Nations, and that is about it.
	On Wednesday, the UN addressed what is now the world's latest refugee crisis.
	More than 400,000 Rohingyas have fled their homes in Myanmar in the last month.
	The UN says the Muslim minority is a target of ethnic cleansing by Myanmar's military.
	But Myanmar leader and Nobel Peace Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi says her country is in a battle against Rohingya militants, groups that she calls...
	Yeah, let's just stop there, right there, about her being a leader.
	They call her the de facto leader because she's banned from holding office.
	And she's the Nobel Prize winner, we might want to point out.
	She's the one that was locked up for a long time and Hillary visited her.
	Yeah, because we want to control the area to be next to China, obviously.
	And this Rohingya operation, which has never been recognized as an ethnic group and they refuse to really assimilate, it seems, has been causing trouble and so they've rousted them.
	Just get out.
	That's what they've done.
	It's not like they're killing.
	I mean, ethnic cleansing to me means killing people.
	But they were, I mean, they've killed somebody.
	Well, they're killing people and then the rest are leaving.
	They're like, shit, let's get out of here.
	Well, most of them are leaving.
	So they have a couple hundred thousand moving into the next door neighbor, which is Bangladesh, which is a Muslim country.
	And these people are Muslims.
	And you'd think they'd take them in.
	But no, they actually get out of here.
	They say, well, you can stay here for now, but you're not, you know, you're like a guest in the house.
	You're going to have to get out of here eventually.
	And so these guys are stuck in the middle.
	It's if you read that entry in the Wikipedia, you see that this is this country is a is a mess, period.
	Yeah.
	And you it's probably one of these news outlets.
	People say, well, you got to cover this at all.
	It's one of those news items that you go, well, maybe it's far away.
	I don't know where it is on the map.
	Okay, we'll cover it a little bit.
	But read that piece.
	Anyway, continue.
	The Muslim minority is a target of ethnic cleansing by Myanmar's military.
	But Myanmar leader and Nobel Peace Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi says her country is in a battle against Rohingya militants, groups that she calls terrorists.
	Oh yeah, militants.
	But the evidence that has been gathered in just the past few weeks, it suggests that there is much more here than a military campaign against terror.
	Rohingyas have been fleeing Rakhine State in Myanmar, heading north into neighboring Bangladesh, as you see right there.
	The Prime Minister of Bangladesh today criticized both Rohingya militants and Myanmar's military, but said the state should take back its people and stop killing the innocent.
	Human Rights Watch says that satellite images over Myanmar confirm claims that entire villages have been wiped out.
	I want you to look at this image.
	It shows a township in Rakhine State.
	It was taken on the 30th of January 2014.
	About 80% of the people who lived here were Rohingyas.
	Now fast forward.
	An image of the same township from earlier this month.
	You see right there a blackened hole which Human Rights Watch says proves that entire Rohingya settlements are being destroyed.
	Homes reduced to ashes.
	This video shot by a refugee shows what many of Myanmar's Rohingya Muslims are leaving behind.
	The UNL says around 370,000 of them have fled to neighboring Bangladesh in the last month.
	Okay, I have thoughts about this.
	We have another clip, so I'll wait.
	Yeah, play the other clip and give me your thoughts.
	Myanmar refuses to recognize the Rohingya as its citizens.
	In Bangladesh, people have been demonstrating to protest Myanmar's treatment of the Muslim minority.
	Germany has dropped several aid projects to the country, and the U.S. has criticized Myanmar's security forces, saying they are not protecting civilians.
	The protesters are putting pressure on Aung San Suu Kyi, the Nobel Prize laureate who is now Myanmar's de facto leader.
	Critics say she has failed to defend the Rohingya minority.
	Yeah, she grew up rich, by the way, with nannies and...
	Her image was very carefully crafted.
	Here's what I'm hearing.
	Now, Burma is very important to anyone who's interested in China.
	It borders, there's a huge border on China.
	Also borders on Butan, which is interesting.
	The Chinese are there.
	But I think our military, we're number one foam finger, would love to be there.
	I'm pretty sure our intelligence agencies would love to be there.
	But I think having a military presence is what we'd like to go for.
	But maybe it can't be us.
	Here's what I'm hearing.
	Clinton, she was up there.
	They're talking about de-escalation.
	What's happening here to me is the same...
	I'll just say the playbook is Bosnia-Herzegovina, Yugoslavia.
	Send in the blue helmets, which we control, and then ultimately we solve it all by firing an ICBM. Which is exactly what we did in Yugoslavia.
	And we killed a whole bunch of Muslims...
	And the region has been in tatters ever since.
	You know, the problem with Burma, and I don't think it's an analog to Serbia, Herzegovina, is if you look at that article I sent, there are like 40 of these minorities, and they're all...
	All in enclaves.
	It's a very strange country.
	It doesn't really...
	I think it's not even a country.
	It just seems like a grouping of a bunch of people that hate each other in different ways.
	It's very unusual.
	That's why I think we should just get out and stay out.
	Yeah, that's what Trump promised us.
	But no matter who's controlling him, whether it's military intelligence or CIA, we're not going to get out of anything.
	You don't seem to be...
	Yes.
	Well, that's the...
	Whose fault is this?
	I think the public voted Trump in because he...
	I think one of the reasons...
	It's why they voted Obama in.
	Obama's promising, we're going to get out of here, we're going to get out of there, we're not going to be divorced anymore.
	Close down Gitmo.
	Yeah, we're going to...
	Right, number one, close down Gitmo.
	You can take it to the bank.
	Do I still have that one somewhere?
	The first...
	Yeah, he's also there.
	You can take that to the bank.
	There you go.
	He's going to take that to the bank.
	We're going to get out of Iraq right away.
	Take that to the bank.
	All these things you can take to the bank.
	He did none of these things.
	Gitmo's still in business.
	We're still in these countries.
	We're loading up in Afghanistan, because there's another second dimensions there, the poppies.
	Well, yeah, for sure.
	And so they vote this guy in.
	They vote Obama in as a peace candidate.
	And then he turns the tables and everybody, somehow in the process, the Democrats become kind of warmongers.
	I don't know if that ever works.
	And then they, okay, so now the general public decides that Trump, who's also talking about getting out of here, getting out of there, we've got to stop doing this.
	And boom, they vote him in and he's the same thing.
	It's another pile of crap.
	The machine is very, very powerful.
	And by the way, the machine was explained in a clip we had a few shows ago with McMaster, not McMaster, Miley, the head of the Army Chief of Staff, head of the Army, gave a lecture in front of the press club, which lasted about, I don't know how long it was.
	It was short.
	We played the whole thing.
	And he explained the situation, and that's the situation.
	And it's a mechanism, and there's nothing we can do about it.
	I don't care who you vote in.
	Bernie's not going to do anything.
	The Burma is the world's second largest producer of opium.
	After Afghanistan, I believe.
	They account for 25% of entire world production.
	Well, another good reason to be there with our military.
	They're all good reasons to be there.
	Yeah.
	We're the biggest drug dealers in the world.
	Woohoo!
	And now, the Pigeon Minute.
	Pigeon Minute.
	India don't build their first bullet train.
	Which one be bullet train?
	Bullet train are train where they move fast fast and this one cost 17 billion dollars where India borrowed from Japan.
	Listen to this.
	This shit is dynamic, man.
	This is how they should be doing news.
	I like the drums.
	I'm getting bongos.
	Yes, the accent hits are great.
	Let's go.
	They accused Supreme Court Chief Justice David Maragas in the plan for Kenya.
	Cool.
	Wambugu said that judicial coup and he won't make judicial service commission.
	Sack the Chief Justice.
	Two good news.
	Just enter Nigeria.
	Government don't return.
	106 Chibok girls.
	Now that's a news report.
	I like the we did it at the end.
	It's cool, isn't it?
	And what you could do, you have that when you, you know, the thing that is kind of tired by now, you go, oh, I hit my head.
	If you just read a sentence, go, you know, the major agricultural product is rice.
	And do click, click, click, which covers.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, so do that in a sentence.
	You want me to do it while I talk?
	Yeah.
	Hurricane Caddy hits Mexico while Jose just misses some islands ravaged by Irma.
	They gotta keep going.
	The next sentence.
	Quick, quick, quick, quick next sentence.
	Man, I love that pigeon site.
	BBC News.
	The best.
	BBC.com slash P-I-D-G-I-N pigeon.
	It's great.
	Very dynamic.
	Great production.
	I like the news presentation.
	That was pretty wild.
	That's BBC. BBC is nothing like the BBC. I know.
	That's what's so great about it.
	Finally, they got some swing in their step.
	Very nice.
	We made it.
	What was the end of the little thing at the end?
	We did it.
	We did it.
	Yeah, I like that.
	Very modern.
	I caught a...
	Actually, someone sent me this link.
	Somebody sent me a story about it.
	But as predicted, Philip Morris is now on their website now.
	It may be...
	Maybe this has been out for a while.
	We didn't know about it.
	Our manifesto.
	How long will the world's leading cigarette company be in the cigarette business?
	We've built the world's most successful cigarette company and the world's most popular and iconic brands.
	Now we've made a dramatic decision.
	That's where I need your clook clook.
	Oh.
	Now we've made a dramatic decision.
	Beep.
	We will be far more than a leading cigarette company.
	We're building PMI's future on smoke-free products that are much better choice than cigarette smoking.
	Indeed, our vision for all of us at PMI is that these products will one day replace cigarettes.
	Why are we doing this?
	Anyway, they're going into the vaping business.
	They're saying our future is vaping.
	Vaping?
	I thought this was leading into them going into the marijuana business.
	No.
	This is not right.
	This is not going to get anybody excited.
	Yeah, vaping is kind of lame.
	They've got all these giant rolling machines.
	Right.
	Rolling and packing and stuffing.
	This is their future.
	That's what they say their future.
	What are they going to do with all that gear?
	Hey, anybody out there starting a marijuana company in any of the legal states, go buy the surplus gear from Philip Morris.
	Those giant machines that roll.
	I know.
	That's fantastic.
	Zigzag, get on the case.
	Hey, lots of vandalism stuff.
	Now, the Antifas and the anti-Confederates, the neo-Confederates, there's tons of stuff happening.
	It continues.
	And, man, I've got to hand it to you.
	I think maybe it's a year and a half ago that you started talking about the national anthem being a problem, and it would have to go.
	And you tracked this very early on.
	Now it's commonplace with athletes taking the knee in front of the flag when the National Anthem is playing.
	And now the Francis Scott Key monument was spray-painted Racist song.
	They threw paint all over it.
	And there's people out there in M5M talking about how it's a racist song.
	I think I saw a guy on Tucker who was saying that the history of the Star Spangled Banner was it was written in 1812 but it didn't become the national anthem until 1832 I think.
	I don't know that.
	Well, what he says is that it was made the national anthem kind of as a ball spike from the Confederates.
	At least we get the anthem here.
	Something to that effect.
	And so he's saying that it is a song that was promoted to Confederates in 1832.
	He said Neo-Confederates.
	Neo.
	Neo refers to something that came after the Confederacy.
	It means new Confederates.
	It would be proto-Confederates if he knew what he was using linguistically.
	Well, I didn't bring a clip, so I can't argue that.
	But I do see it under fire.
	And I'm just giving you your props.
	You'd get Clip of the Day, but there's no clip.
	There's no clip.
	Thank you.
	You saw that coming.
	Very good.
	Let's see.
	We have a statue of St.
	Unipero Serra.
	Unipero.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Unipero Serra.
	You have to live in California to know what that is.
	And Unipro...
	If you're ever on Highway 280, that's that giant statue of the guy pointing toward the ocean.
	Yeah, that was decapitated.
	Oh, the one over here?
	I think so.
	Where is it?
	It's in like Saramontes in Hillsborough.
	Santa Barbara?
	Santa Barbara Mission?
	No, no.
	Okay, it's a different one.
	It's a different one.
	It's a different one.
	Oh, that's the one that's always getting decapitated.
	Ha!
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I mean, this has happened before?
	It's like a collector's item.
	Bring me the head of Unipero Serra.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's cool.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, he's been decapitated at least twice that I know of.
	Well, apparently he treated the indigenous peoples very, very poorly.
	Oh, he was an a-hole.
	Total douche.
	Everybody knows this.
	Everybody.
	But he was a saint, which kind of ties into the anti-Christian stuff that we're detecting with an antifa.
	He got his sainthood because he bullcrapped the whole operation.
	It was only after the fact that people realized what a jerk he was.
	Anyway, the executive producership for Saint Unipero, Sarah's head.
	Unipero.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	Unipero.
	Clash expected in Richmond, Virginia with...
	Now these...
	Yeah, the Juggalos.
	Yeah, in Richmond, yeah.
	No, this is a Confederate group plans rally at a Robert E. Lee statue.
	I think these are rigged at this point.
	Let's listen to the report.
	Chief Alfred Durham says they have their eyes on social media chatter, his department trying to be proactive instead of reactive, adding they want to protect citizens from, quote, all hell breaking loose.
	Capitol Police stand guard.
	But Richmonder Lindenburg says come next Saturday, the history lesson will have to be at home.
	It scares me to death.
	Why?
	I don't want to have war.
	And...
	The thing that happened in Charlottesville looked like the beginning of a war to me.
	And I don't want to live someplace where we're having a war.
	That war got over 150 years ago.
	A neoconfederate group from Tennessee planning a Protect the Statue rally here on Monument Avenue.
	Crime Insider sources say police have intel that group will attract the opposition in the form of Antifa.
	An activist group that has made headlines for acts of violence, especially towards the media.
	Chief Durham says he can promise a lawful assembly, adding that people living along Monument Avenue deserve a peace of mind.
	Our residents of the city who want to come and assemble and express their First Amendment rights, we don't have problems with them.
	If you look at the history...
	Most recent history of these protests is folks from the outside.
	It's not our local residents.
	They appreciate their city.
	They love their city.
	And they have a right to assemble.
	But what we don't want people thinking they have a right to come here and create habit and then leave.
	Chief Durham says no group has applied for a permit.
	Next week they will meet with a fan civic association for what stands for now as the unknown.
	It should be feisty.
	Yeah, I'm beginning to think that these things are completely staged on both sides.
	And her head is gone.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So Mnuchin's wife, by the way...
	No, I don't like her.
	I don't like him.
	She's in trouble.
	She's an actress.
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	You know my rule.
	Yeah, never marry one.
	If only I had listened to Borak!
	An old rule.
	Or an artist.
	She married...
	I mean, she's beautiful.
	When you see her dolled up as an actress.
	If you like that kind of woman, yeah, I guess.
	Yeah, the beauty.
	And a dingbat, apparently stupid.
	Yeah.
	You know, bragging about everything she does, you know.
	She's got a trophy husband, I guess, or he is a trophy wife you don't know, which makes it even more weird.
	But let's listen to the update on what's going on with these two, because they're out to get her.
	Some prize he is.
	Well, he's worth millions.
	Oh, yeah.
	If it's all about the money, if you marry for money, you deserve every penny.
	We turn next, meantime, to a new controversy for President Trump's Treasury Secretary, Steve Mnuchin.
	You might remember the last controversy sparked by this photo his wife posted on Instagram showing the couple stepping off a government plane in which he tagged all of her high-end designer labels she was wearing in the photo.
	Well, tonight there are reports the Treasury Secretary asked to take a government plane on his overseas honeymoon.
	Here's ABC's chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross.
	Newly married this past summer, multi-millionaire treasury secretary Stephen Mnuchin formally requested that he and his new wife Louise, regularly seen in designer clothes with purses at $10,000 plus, be allowed to travel in style in a government jet on their honeymoon to Europe.
	At an estimated price of $25,000 an hour, it would have cost taxpayers several hundred thousand dollars.
	They can't be expecting tax...
	And by the way...
	What kind of plane is he flying?
	Because you can do round-trip for under $70,000 with a 30-person capacity aircraft.
	So, you know, talk about your government waste.
	Obviously, he shouldn't be doing it, but that's really expensive.
	They can't be expecting taxpayers to foot the bill for a Hollywood lifestyle.
	And after Treasury officials say they raised the issue of how we would look for a man worth at least $300 million to travel at taxpayers' expense on a personal trip, Mnuchin found another way to get to Europe on his own dime.
	In response to an ABC News question about the honeymoon trip, a Treasury spokesperson said the Secretary needs access to secure communications, but the Secretary's office determined it was unnecessary to use military aircraft when alternatives were found.
	You don't need a giant rule book of government requirements.
	You can just say to yourself, this is common sense, it's wrong.
	But it was just a few weeks after the honeymoon that Mnuchin and his wife did fly on a government jet to Kentucky on an official trip where, among other events, they viewed the solar eclipse.
	She famously posted this photo, adding hashtags for items in her expensive outfit, and this response to critics.
	Do you think the U.S. government paid for our honeymoon or personal travel?
	LOL. Have you given more to the economy than me and my husband?
	Mnuchin's wife Louise is an actress, appearing in this episode of the CBS show CSI dressed as Marie Antoinette, the French royal, best known for saying of starving peasants, let them eat cake.
	And Brian Ross with us live tonight from...
	That's what we call clip of the day in the news business.
	Washington.
	Brian, I want to go back to what you just reported on those social media comments.
	Did Louise Linton actually...
	I mean, seriously, he should come back.
	Thanks for that report.
	You got clip of the day, man.
	I can't believe that she was dressed as Marie Antoinette.
	I'm from Washington.
	Brian, I want to go back to what you just reported on those social media comments.
	Did Louise Linton actually say, do you think the U.S. government paid for her honeymoon or personal travel, LOL? Yes, David, she did.
	And then she later apologized for her comments.
	And now the inspector general is taking a look at the circumstances surrounding all of the secretary's travel on government aircraft.
	Chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross tonight.
	Brian, thank you.
	Fun fact.
	Marie Antoinette.
	Who was she married to?
	The last, what's his name?
	Louis XVI, I think.
	XVI. Louis XVI. I'm pretty sure it's the XVI. Do you know that he created the coupe, the coupe glass, modeled after her breast?
	What coupe?
	You know, you get ice cream in, but I think it was used for champagne.
	You know, coupe, like that type of glass.
	Oh, the little thing that holds a scoop of ice cream.
	Yes.
	The soda parlor.
	He created that, modeled after Marie Antoinette's breast.
	That sounds like bullcrap.
	Fun fact?
	No, it's a fun fact.
	Fun fact.
	Fun bullcrap.
	What?
	Okay.
	Somebody made that story up.
	I got it from the former New York banker.
	I trust him implicitly.
	Yeah, Louis XVI, you're right.
	Oh, yeah, from the banker.
	Yeah, yeah, the source of all knowledge.
	Well, he's been pretty right.
	Let's move to Catalonia and keep people up on that little thing that's going on.
	I do have a clip.
	The clip is from the last show we didn't play, but it at least gets us up to speed because I have a letter from one of our producers.
	Okay.
	Spanish authorities have moved to block a long-standing push for independence by the region of Catalonia.
	The country's constitutional court has suspended a law passed by the Catalan Parliament that would allow a vote on the issue.
	The suspension comes after Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy vowed to block the independence referendum.
	He's called the law a, quote, intolerable act of disobedience.
	Yeah, this is coming to a head.
	And they said now the latest reporters are going to arrest all the mayors in that whole catalog area.
	Yeah.
	Because they're being, I don't know what they're going to do, but here's the note I got from Stephanie.
	Now, they have a vote coming up, yeah?
	Yeah, in a couple weeks.
	Their version of Brexit.
	They want a Brexit out of Spain.
	Yeah, but it's not binding.
	But hold on.
	Before you read the note.
	This reminds me of your votes in Netherlands.
	Well, all I have for you is that the EU has stated, I think it was Junker the drunker, but everything with him is now in French these days.
	No clips.
	He said...
	You know what?
	If that happens, fine.
	We will recognize them, but they have to go through the normal EU ascension process to get into the Union.
	But we'll recognize them as a separate state.
	That's what the EU is saying.
	It's kind of like, hey, Spain, figure it out.
	That's not good.
	Dear John and Adam, we don't want to check out the protests in Barcelona.
	The video is shocking with the number of Catalans protesting ahead of their referendum on succession on October 1st.
	That's what the quote is.
	Incidentally, the Spanish government has just ruled it as illegal.
	And BBC News says the number of protesting are thousands when it is hundreds of thousands, if not close to a million.
	My sources in London tell me that the BBC Evening News virtually ignores the story, night after night, yet spending all this time on the Muslims in Myanmar story.
	The Catalan broadcaster TV3 has also been threatened with criminal prosecution over the coverage of the protests.
	And Julian Assange has been tweeting about it for a bunch of clips and videos he's got, apparently, if you want to check it out.
	So this is a big deal.
	It is, and I have a childhood friend who lives in Sitges, which is south of Barcelona.
	Barcelona?
	You've got to say it the right way, John.
	Then every time I say it, you think Barcelona?
	Yes, Barcelona and Ibiza.
	It's Barcelona and Ibiza.
	Barcelona.
	And he hates them.
	And he's Dutch.
	He hates what?
	The Catalans.
	He hates them.
	He's against them.
	And he's Dutch.
	Well, maybe the Dutch don't like the Catalans.
	No, but he's been living south of Barcelona for 15, 20 years.
	So he's, for all intents and purposes, he's Spanish.
	He feels Spanish.
	And he really hates them.
	They consider them terrorists.
	Well, it's the same situation over on the other side of the country, in the Basque country.
	Exactly.
	Where they were going to have a revolution until they started making money.
	Ah, well, there's your solution.
	Generally, it's a solution to a lot.
	What can we give them that will help them make money?
	I would like to know why he hates them.
	Are they a-holes?
	It's one of those things.
	It's cultural.
	Maybe it's because he's Dutch.
	Why the hate against these groups in Myanmar?
	I mean, it's the same thing.
	You could ask the same question.
	Believe it or not, people sometimes don't like other groups of people.
	Huh.
	What a revelation!
	You gotta write that down.
	You're being snarky with me now.
	Okay.
	You want to change it from that to...
	No, but I want to thank you for playing that clip because it is a big deal and very few people have their eye on this kind of stuff.
	They're not even covering it here.
	No, we have Trump.
	They're not covering the Myanmar thing.
	They're not covering anything.
	And you'd expect it from the news hour.
	You'd expect it maybe from Democracy Now!
	But they're just doing the same stuff.
	Parasites.
	Yeah.
	So let's play this then.
	Let's say, if we're going to stay over there, let's go to the Prime Minister Question Time.
	We love us some Prime Minister Question Time.
	The only problem is more people in work are in poverty than ever before.
	More are in insecure work.
	More relying on tax credits and housing benefit to make ends meet.
	Consumer debt rising by 10% as wages are falling.
	Household savings lower than at any time for the past 50 years.
	That is the Conservative legacy.
	Mr Speaker, a young woman called Aisha wrote to me last week.
	And she says...
	I've got no idea.
	And she says, I have recently graduated from university with a hefty amount of debt on my head.
	However...
	And she goes on, Mr Speaker...
	I cannot understand why Conservative MPs don't want to listen to this question.
	I really can't.
	However, I will persist.
	However, she goes on, I am scared about the futures of other young people.
	People have always dreamed of being a nurse, no longer one to train to become one.
	Her government, with the support of the Lib Dems, trebled tuition fees.
	Will the Prime Minister take the opportunity this afternoon to vote against another Tory hike in student fees?
	This was their big scandal.
	This is where people were out on the streets, they were angry about the cost.
	Is that what this is about?
	No, this is new.
	That was like a while ago.
	No, but he's this note that she...
	Oh, yeah.
	They're going through the history.
	They've been bitching and moaning about this, and once they invented kettling and some of these techniques...
	Shut him up.
	But they've tripled the fees again.
	Yeah, oh, okay.
	That's what I was talking about.
	Hey, to the right honorable gentleman, once again, there are a few things about people's circumstances that he has failed to mention.
	Things that the government has done, things that the government has done, taking 30 million, giving a tax cut to 30 million people.
	That means for a basic rate taxpayer, £1,000 more in their pockets.
	That's what sound management of the economy by a Conservative government delivers for people.
	But the Right Honourable Gentleman talks about delivering for students.
	Let's talk about delivery.
	Let's talk about promises that are made.
	He promised.
	He promised.
	Oh, there's far too much noise on both sides of the chamber.
	I say in all candor and friendliness to the...
	I love that.
	I wish I could ISO that.
	That was cool.
	Let's do that again.
	He promised.
	He promised.
	Far too much noise on both sides of the chamber.
	I say in all candor and friendliness to the Honourable Member for Brent Central, who's in a very animated state.
	I don't know what you had for breakfast, but I think I ought to steer clear of it.
	The Prime Minister.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Mr Speaker.
	The right honourable gentleman promised workers that he'd protect their rights, and on Monday he let them down.
	He promised students that he would deal with their debt, and he's let them down.
	He promised...
	He promised...
	He promised the British people that he would support Trident and he's let them down.
	And he promised voters he'd deliver on Brexit and he's let them down.
	What people know is that it's only the Conservatives that deliver a better Britain.
	I wish we could have that here.
	It would be great.
	You know, if you don't mind, I just want to ISO that oral order thing.
	You can get it.
	I think it's worth it.
	What about delivering for students?
	Where was it?
	Oh!
	Okay, I think I have it there.
	Yeah.
	And cut.
	Boom.
	Paste.
	Done.
	Out.
	Done.
	Boom.
	I love doing this.
	Okay.
	Let me see if it works.
	You need a little bit flipped off the front.
	Oh, I need more?
	Okay, hold on.
	Off the front.
	The back's fine.
	Oh, off the front?
	Yeah, off the front.
	Oh, I think I need a little bit on the back side, if anything.
	No, the back, it ends right with order.
	I think the back's fine.
	Okay, a little bit more on the front?
	Okay.
	But to play the whole thing again, you'll hear there's a little bit of noise at the front.
	Here we go.
	Yeah, that little blip at the front, I think, needs to go.
	I just increased it.
	Oh, it needs to go?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I thought you wanted more.
	I didn't understand.
	No, I said you've got to clip it off the front.
	Off.
	Okay.
	That's better.
	Yeah, you think?
	There's a little blip at the end, too, that probably I didn't notice before.
	Okay, how about this?
	Perfect.
	Yeah, there's still a little glitch in there, but I can't help that.
	Okay.
	I think it's fine.
	All right.
	Then we'll take that over here, and then we do this, and then we say export, and I'll do order ISO, and good.
	Okay.
	Thank you for participating in our little segment here.
	Okay.
	Now let me save it.
	Okay.
	Here it is.
	Let's see if it works.
	Oh!
	Dynamite.
	Kinda.
	Kinda?
	Okay, this is Clip 2.
	I learned a little bit of something on Clip 2.
	The thing is, there's an interesting phenomenon.
	I think this is an all-government.
	First, let's play this Clip 2.
	And there's a factoid in here that I didn't know.
	And now that I know it, it makes it even more unusual what's going on.
	Mr Speaker, the Institute of Fiscal Studies reports that English graduates have the highest student debts anywhere in the world.
	Poorest students now graduating with an average debt of £57,000.
	Who is responsible but her party and the Liberal Democrats of that situation?
	Mr Speaker, we're in the middle of an economic slowdown.
	The OBR says there is a growing risk of recession under her watch.
	Growth is slowing, productivity worsening, wages falling, jobs becoming more insecure, personal debt increasing, saving levels falling, and homelessness rising all over the country.
	And it's forecast that by the end of this Parliament, five million children in this country, the fifth richest country in the world, will be living in poverty.
	Isn't it true that not only is our economy at breaking point, but for many people, it's already broken as they face up to the poverty imposed by this government?
	Can I just say to the right honourable gentleman, yet again, he has failed to mention on student fees.
	Who was it who introduced tuition fees?
	Oh!
	The Conservative Party, it was the Labour Party that introduced tuition fees.
	Wow.
	I'm glad you kind of ruined the clip by dropping that in every two seconds.
	Oh, I don't think it was ruined.
	I love the clip.
	Well, what is the point of the clip?
	Ah, who cares?
	A bunch of people yelling at each other.
	The point is, is that Which was stepped on by that order thing.
	I'm so sorry.
	His tuition was introduced by labor, not the conservatives.
	And I didn't know that.
	I didn't know it either.
	And, of course, the counter to that is like, well, great, we introduced it.
	Why don't you get rid of it once you got in?
	But they didn't, of course.
	That's the way all government works.
	That's what we're seeing in this country with Trump.
	And you're surprised by this?
	Yeah.
	No, it's just like a reconfirmation.
	Now, the only other little tidbit I got into is that if you didn't notice that throughout his complaining, Corbyn's, he kept mentioning the liberal Democrats, which I think there's three of them in there.
	I guess they've always started to side with the Tories.
	I don't know.
	But this tuition thing is ridiculous.
	What are the actual rates now?
	Well, I don't know, but you're walking out of school with a 60,000...
	How does this work?
	Isn't this supposed to be, you know, we get free healthcare, free education?
	Isn't that a human right?
	I guess the free education went by the wayside.
	I thought it was a human right.
	A human right.
	I don't understand.
	That I don't understand.
	And that's the core issue.
	That's what they're not talking about.
	They did have an important vote.
	This was the first step in the Brexit process, giving Parliament the authority to break away from the laws of the European Union.
	The eyes to the right, 326.
	The no's to the left, 290.
	The ayes to the right, 326.
	The nose to the left, 290.
	So the eyes have it.
	The eyes have it.
	Unlock!
	And there was that last bit that caught my eye, or my ear.
	Unlock!
	Unlock?
	Yeah.
	What does that mean?
	Whenever they have a vote, they lock the doors.
	They lock the doors to Parliament whenever they have a vote.
	Why?
	It's historical.
	You know, the Queen, of course, is not allowed in the House of Parliament.
	I mean, in the House of Commons.
	Commons, yeah.
	She's allowed in the Lords, but not the Commons.
	Except, you know, under special, special...
	They have to invite her.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But whenever they...
	Historically, whenever they go to a vote, they lock it down to keep it secure.
	And then once the vote is called out, then they unlock.
	Huh.
	Yeah, to keep out Antifa, probably.
	I have no idea.
	To keep out somebody.
	Guys with guns.
	Yeah, so you can't be pressured.
	And it's also private, then.
	You know, I guess.
	I don't know.
	It's transparency.
	You know, that kind of stuff.
	Yeah, it's what they're good at.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Well, let's thank a few people before we get to Farage.
	Ah! um Did you hear the Farage thing, by the way?
	Someone sent it to me.
	I didn't get to it.
	It's okay.
	It's good, but it's not great.
	Let's start thanking a few people here for producing the show, 964, starting with Jim Bennett.
	$175.
	And he writes in the word fish.
	Hashtag fish.
	Hashtag fish.
	Samuel Seeler, $133.
	I'm just laughing at his note.
	$100 towards your service goat.
	And $33 for my parents' 33rd anniversary.
	Yes, indeed.
	That's great.
	We'll give him some karma at the end.
	Sir Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina, $128.64.
	And he becomes a Viscount.
	A Viscount.
	Yes.
	Because he doesn't need any jingles if you're feeling spunky.
	We got tons of stuff for the industry.
	He likes the Bob Dylan stuff.
	Jimmy Brown, $99.15.
	Do we have his birthday on there?
	Yes, we do.
	It's yellow on mine.
	Greg Dial, 7770.
	John Cruz in East Wenatchee, Washington.
	77.70.
	That was quite a drop-off.
	Yeah, it drops off fast.
	We don't get a lot of...
	We didn't get a lot of donations today from other normals.
	The normals?
	The normals?
	My goodness.
	Greg Dial, apparently, one of these guys, no, it's not Greg, it's John Cruz.
	He's a cannabis engineer.
	We have to talk to him.
	Not appearing on the podcast, 5678.
	Paul J. Paul Michaud.
	55 Ken, double nickels on the dime.
	Ron Jordan, double nickels on the dime.
	Sir Timothy of the No Fix title, $55.
	Henry Barda in Winfield, Illinois, $53.
	Do we have a birthday thing?
	Well, first of all, we have Sir Timothy of the No Fix title in honor of her birthday and her passing the advanced Cicerone certification exam.
	Please credit this donation to producer Lisa Bernier for her march towards No Agenda Damehood.
	Also, she is hosting a meetup for Michigan Local 1.
	On Sunday, October 1st, in Slow's Barbecue, Pontiac, Michigan, at 3 p.m.
	So, go have a look.
	And then Sir Timothy of No Fixed Title.
	I'm sorry, Henry Barda.
	That's the next one.
	Yes.
	Yes, Henry Barda.
	Is he listed?
	Yeah, happy birthday for SWMBO, who turned 64 on Friday.
	Her birth year is 1953.
	So that's why the $53 from Winfield, Illinois.
	Okay, got it.
	She's on the list.
	All right, we're already down to 50.
	Richard Gardner.
	Sir Richard Gardner.
	Sir Richard, yes.
	Brian Pieske.
	Pieske.
	Pieske.
	I don't know.
	P-I-E-S-K-E. Brett Yo.
	Yo.
	In Cantonsville, Maryland.
	Yo.
	Michelle Winton in Bartlett, Tennessee.
	And then I have to read this.
	Hey guys, I'm donating an order of five years of marriage to my beloved Todd.
	Please forward this towards his knighthood.
	Thank him for hitting me in the mouth.
	Thank you for hitting her in the mouth.
	Yes.
	Good job hitting her in the mouth.
	Excellent mouth hitage.
	Yes, in the British sense, very good.
	Mark Little in La Jolla, California, 50.
	Dame Patricia Worthington's back again with another 50.
	She's in Miami.
	I hope she's doing okay.
	I hope she's doing okay with no power, probably.
	No power, but she can manage to donate.
	Did you do a DHM plug last night?
	Probably not.
	No.
	No, because there's no power.
	No, it wouldn't have last night anyway.
	We do it on Tuesday night.
	Oh, okay.
	No power on Tuesday, for sure.
	No.
	No, in fact, no.
	I'll tell you about it after the show.
	Oh, what?
	Brandon's.
	Brandon Savoy in Port Orchard, I believe by now.
	It's Port Orchard, Washington.
	John Haller in Missoula, Montana.
	Trevor Hoagland in Portland, Oregon.
	And I believe our last two includes Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
	And Kirsten Gleb.
	It's either Gleb or Gelb.
	I thought it was Gelb.
	I thought it was Gelb, too.
	Maybe it's a missed title.
	Who came in with her pop money donation.
	Yes.
	And I will mention that one of our top guys up here, Mike Scalora, the 5555 guy with the douchebag call out to Double D. He came in through pop money.
	That's, I think, maybe the most we got through pop money.
	Nice.
	And it just shows up.
	It comes in through a bank.
	It just works.
	It's different than the ones that go directly to the noagenda.com address.
	And so I haven't gotten that worked out yet.
	Mm-hmm.
	It's fascinating what's happening in today's money world.
	We'll talk about that in a minute, actually.
	Okay.
	I have a little war on cash stuff to discuss.
	Well, we want to thank everybody very much for being a producer of episode 9 or 6, 4 of the best podcast in the universe.
	And also, we want to thank everyone who came in under $50, as you might have read in the newsletter.
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	A lot of people work very hard on this.
	John works on it.
	Hours.
	And then there's people who...
	He sends it to me, to Pepper's Mama, to The Keeper.
	Who I think is overboard, by the way.
	Oh, really?
	She hasn't mentioned anything?
	You've been blocked?
	I haven't been blocked.
	That's too bad.
	Well, anyway, it's a lot of work, but it's good.
	A lot of people get bored.
	Yeah.
	What with us?
	I think they get bored.
	They just get bored.
	Or they get depressed.
	We try to avoid doing it.
	That's why we try to inject some humor.
	Well, at the beginning of today's show, when everyone's going to die, I guess it was kind of depressing.
	And now they've got the parasite story you threw in, which is really depressing.
	I'm so sorry.
	There's no bugs and worms going to eat us.
	What are we going to do?
	People getting slaughtered in Burma.
	Yeah, it's been just a really upbeat day so far.
	But again, thank you all very much.
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	Whatever value you get out of it, please pass that on to us, and we appreciate it, and look forward to your support for the upcoming program on Sunday.
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	And we start off with a congratulations to producer Ned Jeffrey and his wife as they brought a brand new as yet unnamed human resource into the world yesterday afternoon.
	Congratulations.
	We say happy birthday to Jimmy Brown.
	He turns 30 tomorrow.
	Sir Timothy of No Fixed Titles says happy birthday to Lisa Bernier.
	And Henry Barda says happy birthday to SWNBO who turns 64 tomorrow.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Happy birthday!
	Ah, we have a night!
	Who is becoming?
	That's right.
	We have a title change.
	As you know, when you're a knight, you can continue up the peerage ladder.
	All you have to do is continue to support the No Agenda Show.
	And today we say congratulations to Sir Kevin Dills.
	He becomes the Viscount of Charlotte.
	And we appreciate his unwavering support of the show.
	And the work.
	Like lots of people do.
	Lots of stuff for us.
	And it's really appreciated.
	All right.
	One, two, good day, three.
	Three nights.
	Here it comes.
	I got it.
	Yep, the double-edged one.
	Perfect.
	Hey, Jonathan Calvert, Mike Scalora, and Ron Gardner, please step up, gentlemen.
	You have all supported the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	Truly outstanding.
	We thank you so much.
	And as a reward, you, besides the work, you get a seat here at the No Agenda Roundtable for all of our nights and days.
	So...
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	Gentlemen, for you, we have tofu and turmeric, pipelines and poppies, runny eggs and grapefruit juice, white widow and brownies, three gashas and a bucket of fried chicken, mutton and meat, ginger ale and gerbils, and...
	Well, Sparkling Sider and Escorts is the one to end on today.
	Go to noagendanation.com slash rings and give Eric the Shield all of your details.
	We'll get it out to you as soon as possible.
	And we'd love it if you could tweet out a picture or put it on the face bag or noagenda social.
	It's always fun to see.
	And you get new followers.
	Fresh followers.
	Fresh meat.
	Fresh followers.
	Fresh followers.
	I'm going to talk about cash for a moment.
	Let me see.
	Where was it?
	Yeah, it's here.
	Sweden, according to this article from BBC, is almost a cashless society.
	They will be the first ones.
	They are the canary in the coal mine.
	They're the guinea pig.
	I thought the Netherlands was on top, but apparently not so.
	Only 1% of all payments made in Sweden last year were made using coins or notes.
	It'd be very interesting to see how this plays out for them.
	What was going on in the Netherlands?
	Well, the Netherlands, they're on their way to it, but I think there's a lot of people still...
	Cash is very, very ingrained in Dutch culture.
	Why wouldn't it be ingrained in Swedish culture?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's not.
	Of course, it helps that...
	Is it Bjorn?
	I think it's Bjorn from ABBA is out there promoting it.
	I mean, if Bjorn Elvea says, come on, cash is dumb, you're all going to listen to the ABBA guy.
	At least in Sweden, they do.
	Where ABBA says goes.
	Yeah.
	I should look into this a little bit more to see if there is anyone currently saying this might not be a great idea or we should keep some cash around.
	We do not accept cash signs.
	They're just about everywhere in the Sweden Stockholm.
	We do not accept cash.
	Yeah.
	Now in our bills, in American bills, it says very clearly on the bill that If you have something to pay, it has to be accepted.
	You have to accept cash.
	Is that true?
	You legally have to?
	It's on the bill.
	It says this is payment for blah, blah, blah.
	Tender, debts, whatever it says.
	Right, but you don't have to...
	I think you do.
	I think it's illegal not to.
	Really?
	You can say your money's no good?
	You can say whatever you want, and I'm sure it's not enforced.
	But I think it's illegal.
	I think you have to take cash.
	Hmm.
	Costco takes cash.
	I thought you had to have a special, like an American Express credit card to even become a Costco member.
	They changed from American Express to Visa.
	Okay.
	I don't think you're right.
	I don't think it's illegal.
	I'll dive into that, but I'm pretty sure it's just saying this is as good as this is money, is what they're saying with that.
	Yeah, that is money, but your credit card's not money.
	It's a piece of plastic.
	And now you get down.
	Yeah, the dollar is just a piece of paper.
	Sure.
	The best thing is Bitcoin, because that's really not money.
	How about that dive, huh?
	From a high of, what, 52.10 down to 38?
	We've seen the thing fluctuate 50-100% sometimes.
	$400 just within the year.
	$400 back in December?
	$400 or $500 it can do in a day.
	This thing is so volatile.
	That's not what you want with money.
	And the reason for it is the Chinese government said, okay, this is done.
	They're going after the change makers.
	And that's the vulnerable part of Bitcoin, because it's not actually money, is that you still have to change it back and forth.
	And they're bringing in all the terrorism rules to basically thwart this, make it very difficult.
	It's very difficult to become a change, an exchange, not just for trading, and that's a whole different problem, but you can change your dollars into Bitcoin and vice versa.
	And the Chinese are going after that now, and the same will happen here.
	And until you can actually buy and pay for real products with Bitcoin, I just don't see a future.
	So let's jump to something.
	I'm looking at my clips, and the most important clip, which is it's completely undercovered.
	It won't be for long, and I want people to consider listening to this story and then remembering the poop map of San Francisco, because San Francisco is going to happen here.
	Hepatitis outbreak in San Diego.
	Okay.
	Today, the city of San Diego started power washing parts of downtown in an effort to fight against the hepatitis A outbreak.
	Sixteen people have died.
	Hundreds are infected.
	It's making it the worst outbreak to hit San Diego in decades.
	Now we're hearing the virus can be spread easier than we first expected.
	NBC7's Megan Tavrizian has been covering this story for us.
	She's downtown with continuing coverage now.
	Megan?
	Well, Monica and Catherine, this virus is extremely contagious.
	Doctors today told us that the virus lingers for days, so even touching an infected doorknob or toilet seat can make you sick.
	Crews began spraying down East Village sidewalks today with a bleach solution.
	It's the latest step taken by the city to fight against the spread of hepatitis A. We're probably going to be doing them every other Monday.
	We're going to see how that works out, at least for the time being.
	The bleach solution will be used on areas predominantly occupied by the homeless, around marketing 16th, down through commercial.
	Last week, the county declared a local health emergency after 15 people died and more than 380 people became infected.
	Leaders from the county and city knew of the outbreak in March, but there wasn't much done about it until a few weeks ago.
	It sounds like a crazy thing to have on the streets of a first world city.
	In addition to power washing, the city and county deployed 40 hand washing stations around the county.
	The county has also vaccinated more than 7,000 people at risk, which include the homeless and those who work with the homeless.
	Now doctors are recommending anyone who works and lives downtown to get vaccinated too.
	We just opened our business, so I knew her, she had interviewed us before, and I was like, oh, what's this?
	And then I was like, ooh.
	Laura Johnson is a small business owner downtown who found out about the outbreak yesterday on Facebook.
	I literally had no idea until yesterday, which is kind of scary.
	And now the homeless is the community that's impacted the most, but about 30% of those infected are not homeless.
	We went to a clinic today.
	They said that they are noticing an increase in people going there and trying to get vaccinated for hepatitis A. Hmm.
	This is so troubling.
	Very troubling because this is poop on the street.
	And it seems the blame is going towards the homeless.
	Yes.
	I'm sorry, those experiencing homelessness.
	Yeah, they're pooping on the street.
	Yeah.
	This breaks out in San Francisco where they have the poop map.
	At least you got a map.
	This is going to happen because hepatitis is passed on through feces.
	Is it airborne or just if you touch the feces?
	No, it's feces.
	So you have to touch the poop.
	You have to touch the poop.
	This is what you have in restaurants when hepatitis breaks out.
	It's because somebody needs to wash their hands.
	Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands.
	In the bathroom, because the staff needs to wash its hands.
	If you have just touched it.
	So if you give money to a homeless person, that's your risk right there.
	Well, don't let them touch you.
	Just hold the money out and then drop it.
	Stop touching poop!
	Or maybe we can finally bring in those...
	The poop is smeared all over the place.
	I mean, it's a mess.
	I mean, this is no thanks to operations like Twitter that had them take the public toilets out of the area in San Francisco, downtown Market Street, which I'm sure is going to be...
	Yeah, they did that because they didn't like the homeless people in front of the building.
	Yeah, they thought they would get rid of the homeless, and now all the homeless, they have no place to poop, so they poop on the street.
	People step in it.
	What's wrong with you in California?
	This is crazy.
	I'm telling you, this is the beginning of the end for a lot of homeless issues.
	Hepatitis breaking out is not a good thing.
	The first thing we can do is we can have the Clinton Foundation come in and give them all a vaccine.
	No, they get watered down.
	The vaccine won't help.
	Well, maybe it's something else.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, there's that.
	I know what you mean.
	Yeah, because they do a lot of things with vaccines, the Clinton Foundation.
	Damn.
	This is why the European Union has in their protocols of the Lisbon Treaty that they have the right, anyone in any European member state has the right to arrest you if you have a communicable disease and you're experiencing homelessness.
	I don't know if it's ever used, but they can...
	Well, it might be shortly.
	They can arrest you very easily.
	Damn, this is...
	I mean, I was also reading an article about homelessness in California.
	I think California's the number one state of homelessness and really centers around San Francisco.
	But in the past year, the data shows that they're moving out towards the suburbs.
	And also, it's so easy in today's world to become homeless.
	I mean, it's frightening.
	You miss one, two paychecks for some reason.
	You miss your rent two, three times.
	You're done.
	Your FICA score is shit, so you can't rent anything.
	You have to pull together first and last month's rent.
	People get homeless very quick.
	Or maybe they're living in their car.
	I mean, it's a real problem.
	Yes, I would recommend everyone immediately go buy an RV. I have an Airstream for sale, if anyone's interested.
	Anyway, but of course the vaccine thing is another issue with hepatitis A, whether it's an effective vaccine is not clear to me.
	There was a vaccine study that came out saying that if you get a vaccine or there's some evidence that women are having miscarriages from vaccines, and so CBS came to their rescue rather quickly to save the day so they didn't lose any sponsors by making it look like they were going to do an actual story on this problem, but then it turns out that All the CBS report was was poo-pooing the story, minimizing its impact.
	So make sure you can get your vaccine because the flu season is coming up.
	A new study out this week is raising concerns about the safety of a certain version of the flu vaccine and a possible link to miscarriage.
	Dr.
	John Lapook is here.
	John, that sets off a lot of alarm bells for people.
	Of course it does.
	And the key word here, Anthony, is possible link.
	It's considered more of a hint.
	It's something that's worthy of further investigation, but certainly no reason for panic.
	Now they studied two seasons from 2010 to 2012 and they did see more miscarriages in one very specific group.
	Women who had been vaccinated in two consecutive seasons and had a miscarriage within 28 days of getting the vaccine.
	But the numbers were small.
	Only 17 women out of 485 women who miscarried.
	Miscarriage is defined as occurring before 20 weeks.
	And in this group, the median age of miscarriage was seven weeks.
	Now, we spoke today to the CDC and to the authors of the study, and they said this is considered what's called a signal.
	It needs further investigation, but they are not recommending changing any of the current recommendations.
	What are the current recommendations, John?
	Anthony, pregnant women are at high risk for serious complications from flu.
	So the recommendation is to get the flu vaccine in any trimester.
	And there have been a lot of extensive studies previously finding that the flu vaccine during pregnancy is both safe and effective.
	Dr.
	John LaPoop, thanks very much.
	Dr.
	John LaPoop?
	LaPoop.
	It's safe and effective.
	I don't know why they don't just say, look, 97% of all scientists agree that vaccines are very good for you.
	Discussion over.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	Over.
	Definitely over.
	For those of you who are blind, and there's a lot of you, and I appreciate even more what a podcast is to people who can't see, you can stop sending me emails about service animals.
	It's very clear.
	All of you are very upset, pissed off, and there's legitimate issues with people with their anxiety animals, or what do they call them?
	Therapy.
	Therapy animals.
	Yeah.
	And the therapy animals, there's a lot of problems.
	I personally thought you were incredibly callous with that report.
	You were just mean-spirited when you just condemned the fake service animals that people were carrying around with them so they can get cheap airfares.
	Well, one of our producers sent me this.
	He was waiting for a flight, and the Delta Gate announcer says, Okay, we're now boarding anyone with disabilities or anyone that needs a little extra time to board.
	Just step forward, please.
	And he said there were five people who walked up and said, we have therapy cats.
	Can we get on board now?
	What?
	Yep.
	Yeah, that's how far this has gone.
	Therapy cats?
	Yep, that's how far.
	But I need to board ahead of the line because I have a disability and my therapy cat proves it.
	How about having a therapy teddy bear or a blanket?
	A blanket.
	A binky.
	A blankie.
	A blankie.
	A binky.
	I used to call it a binky.
	A binky, a binky, a blankie.
	And goat therapy, I want to tell you, is a real thing.
	And we joke about it.
	But a therapy animal, a goat therapy, go to goatyoga.net.
	I'm telling you.
	That's what you need.
	Your service goat.
	I think bringing a stinky goat on board would be great.
	Not all goats are stinky!
	That's right.
	I presume that we'll be seeing some laws being made pretty soon about this.
	Just the early detection service that we bring to you here at the No Agenda show.
	So Nigel Farage...
	You know, they let him speak, I guess, twice a month.
	I guess everybody gets to speak for a while, once a month or something like that, in the big parliament, right?
	Yeah, the big EU circle.
	Yeah, the big EU thingy.
	Yeah, the Starfleet Command.
	And so he's not as good as he used to be, I don't think.
	But he's still okay.
	And this is his latest.
	And now for the EFTD, the floor goes to Mr Farage.
	Mr Junker, that was the most open, honest and truly worrying speech I've heard in my long years.
	In this place, the message is very clear.
	Brexit has happened.
	Full steam ahead.
	So new plans.
	There's to be one powerful president for the whole of the European Union.
	A finance minister with fresh powers to, as you say yourself, intervene as of when he sees necessary.
	A stronger European army in a militarised European Union with a stronger and perhaps more aggressive foreign policy too.
	And more Europe in every single direction and all of it to be done without the consent of the people.
	Your plan...
	To fight the next European elections with cross-European, pan-European lists funded by the European Union but not, as you said, to fund extremists means what we will find is genuine democratic parties of opposition will not be able to compete in elections on the same playing field.
	It is reminiscent of regimes of old.
	Indeed, the way you're treating Hungary and Poland already Must remind them of living under the Soviet communists when you attempt to tell them how they should run their own countries.
	All I can say is thank God we're leaving!
	But you've learnt nothing from Brexit.
	If you'd given Cameron concessions, particularly on immigration, the Brexit vote, I have to admit, would never, ever have happened.
	And yet, the lesson you take is you're going to centralise, you're going to move on to this new, I think very worrying, undemocratic union.
	And you're deluding yourself, Mr Verhofstadt.
	If you think that the populist wave, as you define it, is over, if these plans of Mr.
	Yonkers come to fruition, far from the populist wave being over, I doubt it's even begun.
	Yeah, you know, he didn't really call anyone out like he usually does.
	No, but he got a huge round of applause, and it wasn't minor.
	No.
	And it wasn't Mike Wright.
	I mean, he had a round of applause.
	I'm sure he did.
	But he's pointing out what he believes is going on, and I think it's terrible.
	They're going to have one...
	Right now, they've got four presidents, and things are kind of divided.
	They've looked at this model and said, this sucks.
	There's too many presidents.
	So they're going to centralize one guy.
	It's going to be whoever.
	And then they're going to beat the army.
	Bernie Sanders.
	It's unbelievable.
	This doesn't look good.
	Yeah, the people in Europe are lost.
	I'm almost done with the death of Europe, or the strange death of Europe, I think is the title of the book.
	It's really worth a read.
	It really explains this whole history.
	You have to go back to really understand how this happened.
	And it's just a train that's on the move.
	It's irreversible.
	I don't think that that can ever be stopped.
	No, you're probably right.
	Yeah.
	Or he's right, or whoever makes that assertion.
	I have two clips from the BBC just to keep an eye on what they're doing regarding sexuality, not just on the BBC, but what's happening in the UK as well.
	There's now a general practitioner being probed about her helping parents transgender their children.
	I've given four children under the age of 16 hormones.
	Three of those were aged 15 and one aged 12.
	And it's really important.
	It's one of those things that when you're treating children, it sounds, oh my goodness.
	But if you were ever privileged enough to meet those children and hear their stories, hear it from their heart, hear it from their families, their teachers, their friends, what it means to them to be able to progress through puberty in line with their peers, rather than in line with a protocol that says you're not allowed rather than in line with a protocol that says you're not allowed to start your puberty until you are 16, which is hellishly late for Man, I'm really tormented by this.
	Thank you.
	These gender-changing hormones.
	You don't let children develop naturally to the point where they get to the point where everything's in line, which is probably around 21.
	And we don't know, we don't have enough time to have studied the ultimate effects of doing this kind of stuff.
	I mean, it's almost like something that, and although I'm not against transgender people, I really don't give a crap.
	I really don't.
	I actually don't care what these parents are doing to their kids.
	Do whatever you want.
	I'm 53 now.
	I don't care.
	But, holy crap.
	It's like Mengele in concentration camp.
	Yeah, it's a bunch of experimental kits.
	And it's experimental stuff.
	And the medical establishment is going along with it.
	Yeah.
	Hook, line, and sinker.
	Hook, line, and dollar bill.
	Right.
	And then there's, this was an interesting little snippet I got from the BBC. A paedophile is someone who has a sexual interest in young children.
	It's a recognized mental disorder, and it's something that people don't choose to have.
	It's a condition in the same way that someone might have depression or ADHD. And a lot of people are able to You talk about it being a condition, does that mean it's something that can be cured then?
	It's something that people can certainly be helped with.
	Treatment, in the broadest sense, is very important.
	that reduces and lowers the risk that they will harm other people.
	Well, interesting that...
	Sorry?
	That's a good one.
	Yeah.
	And the interesting thing is it's coming from the BBC where pedophilia was rife.
	And I'm the first person to say that this is passed down, typically abuse.
	If it's really abusive behavior, that's usually passed down from parent to child.
	And it is a mental disorder and it's a big problem.
	But then you have the elites like Jimmy, Jim will fix it.
	Who was going into morgues, you know, and arranging all kinds of kiddie parties for popular TV and radio presenters and politicians.
	That's a whole different kind of evil.
	It sounds a little bit like, oh, and everyone who investigates it dies, mysteriously.
	Didn't the second investigator die?
	Yeah.
	60 years old.
	Judges throw it out.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oops.
	So, kind of interesting that they're doing that on the BBC. It's a trend, and we'll see where it leads.
	Finally, for me, Judy Gold.
	Do you know her?
	Comedian Judy Gold.
	Does she have any stature?
	I never heard of her.
	No.
	She looks kind of familiar.
	Well, she was talking about the Salon Talks podcast.
	It's fabulous.
	Salon?
	Salon Talks.
	It's from Salon Magazine.
	I guarantee that.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Go on.
	Well, there's a lot of podcasts that need to be listened to.
	As you know, there's a meme going around right now that podcasts are overtaking Rush Limbaugh.
	Rush Limbaugh made $400 million.
	That's three times as big as the entire podcast advertising universe.
	Now, who wrote this?
	A new generation of left-wing podcasters are dethroning Rush Limbaugh and right-wing talk radio.
	While I see a huge future in podcasting, yeah, I don't think so.
	What does he have?
	18 million?
	No, it can't be that much anymore.
	He must have 10 or 12 million listeners, which is incredible by any rating standards today.
	Yeah, and that's on a daily basis.
	Yeah, and it doesn't include me.
	But the numbers they have in here, they're talking that Pod Save America, which is the former Obama speechwriters, Which people are raving over.
	You should listen to this.
	I'm going to start getting clips from it because it is now the new media.
	They claim 1.4 million listeners.
	I don't know how they do it.
	I don't know how they count it.
	I don't know what's true.
	Apple is coming with their numbers.
	So we'll see.
	Very soon we'll know.
	If you really have that kind of audience, I think that's overinflated.
	Well, what do you think?
	Could it be?
	How could it be in a million years?
	Well, in a million years, it might.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, no, in a million years, I doubt podcasting will exist.
	No, of course it's not.
	There's no way.
	Okay.
	I mean, for one thing, you have to have...
	The audience for podcasts tends to be Apple users.
	That is what the data shows.
	Yes, it shows a high...
	Super high percentage.
	iOS is probably 60-70% of everybody's listening.
	And that's because podcasting evolved from the iPod, hence the name podcasting.
	Correct.
	And so you have a very Apple-centric audience, and so I'd say...
	60% of the audience that we have is probably, at least, if not an Apple user, they're either an iPhone user or they were Apple users that have moved on.
	But there's that route.
	The ones that aren't, that just came straight out of, you know, Android or the PC or whatever they're using to pick up the podcast, are in the minority.
	It's always been that way.
	And I don't see that changing.
	And they would be generally left-leaning because it's an Apple...
	Earmark.
	But the one million people listening to these guys drone on, I've heard these podcasts.
	They're boring.
	Trump hate, cute one-liners that aren't funny.
	They're hard to listen to.
	There's no information they have worth.
	You nailed it.
	Nothing of value.
	You nailed it.
	That's exactly the clip I have.
	Stupid one-liners, nothing of value, Trump hate.
	You nailed it!
	Judy Gold on the Salon Talks podcast.
	There's an asshole in the third row.
	And now it's more like, oh, there's some Trump people in the back.
	They come back with hatred and prejudice and snowflake and fuck you, Obama, and, you know, Hillary's emails.
	And it's like, shut up.
	You have...
	There's no humor in what they do.
	I think it's taken a lot of comics.
	I think we were all in shock initially.
	And we did the hair jokes.
	But now...
	Because, I don't know about you, but you know, everyone's like, oh, it can't be that bad.
	There's Ivanka and Jared.
	It's horrible.
	Yeah, they're all horrible.
	But even when you're...
	Like, I do a joke about Trump.
	I know it's shocking.
	That when I look at him in comparison to all the other world leaders, when you see him standing there at a NATO something, and there's Merkel, Macron, there's Trudeau, there's all these world leaders.
	I look at him and I realize he is the only human being who could make American Jews want to move back to Germany.
	These are great podcasts.
	And I apologize to you for cutting off your shit podcast segment, but that was, you know, these people get paid to do this.
	That was years ago that you cut that off.
	Yeah, and I apologize for it.
	I'm not accepting your apology.
	I'm glad you cut it off because...
	I would be forced to continue it, and with the result being listening to crap like you just played.
	The dick of podcasting is what you'd be.
	I saved you.
	I saved you from that, man.
	You did.
	You did.
	It was a bad idea.
	But I think the salon podcast is fair game.
	You know what it is?
	People always talk their mouth off when they're on a podcast.
	Now, you've done this for a while, more than I have, which is listen to all these crazy podcasts and find somebody saying more than they should because they're just on a podcast.
	Who's listening?
	And then you find them spilling their guts about something.
	And you've done a great job of that, and you can keep doing that, but I don't want to hear anything else like you just played.
	Okay.
	Okay, you got a deal.
	Sorry.
	I'll never do that again.
	Lame-o going on and on about their audience in a comedy club.
	See, you're used to, from your background, you're used to all these comics bitching and moaning.
	That's not something that the normies, as you call them.
	The normals.
	The normals.
	We don't really see that.
	Yeah, and you don't need to.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	It's something you really don't want to say.
	What is the face bag ads?
	Is that anything good?
	Yeah, we could have played this clip earlier, but this is about the face bag ads.
	You know, I think this is the nonsense that, oh, $50,000 worth of ads killed Hillary.
	I'm surprised she hasn't been bitching about this.
	We're learning more about how groups believed to be linked to Russia used Facebook to meddle in the 2016 election.
	Jeff Begay has more on this.
	The language was intended to stir up hate, using pictures and incendiary language.
	They won't take over our country if we don't let them in.
	The group behind the messages called itself Secured Borders.
	But investigators say it was part of a Russian campaign to influence the 2016 election.
	To that end, Secured Borders used Facebook's event and invitation tool to promote an anti-immigrant rally in Twin Falls, Idaho, a city it called a center of refugee resettlement.
	And he still has to poop.
	I love it when he does the report.
	Responsible for a huge upsurge of violence toward American citizens.
	That was false, and the rally itself never happened in spite of the Russian campaign.
	They were using these new social media sites, which is kind of a wild, wild west with very few rules, to influence the election.
	Mark Warner is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russian interference in the election.
	I think what we've seen so far from Facebook is only the tip of the iceberg.
	Facebook shut down secured borders.
	There are other groups, including this one that worked out of Texas.
	CBS News has learned that investigators believe there were many more and are scrambling to identify them.
	Just last week, Facebook disclosed that an internal investigation identified about 3,000 ads, costing $100,000, containing messages about divisive issues.
	Those ads also were linked to Russian Internet trolls.
	A Facebook official says because of federal laws and the ongoing Russia investigations, the company is limited in what it can say.
	But Senator Warner says the company hasn't been transparent enough and needs to step up its efforts.
	I'm giving you this for this one.
	Clip of the day.
	I'm just like Jeff Begay's.
	Well, I do like the poop guy.
	But I don't understand.
	When I was predicting this was...
	I said, this is bubbling under.
	You're going to hear a lot about it.
	Why didn't you say, why, yes, Adam, you're right.
	Did you forget you had the clip?
	No.
	Um...
	I just, yes.
	Okay.
	I don't know how to fit in.
	It happens.
	It happens.
	My point of this clip was actually more of the, besides the $100,000 worth of these ads, they spend millions and millions of dollars on these campaigns, but somehow $100,000 is going to turn the time.
	A billion dollars.
	Yeah, a billion.
	So let's take a look.
	Also, the comment that Facebook is, I think they're getting the brunt of the criticism like you pointed out earlier in the show.
	That's when I was going to bring this clip in and I forgot about it.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Facebook says, well, we can't talk about it because there's ongoing investigation.
	They said some bull crap at the end where they wouldn't talk about it.
	The reason they don't talk about it is because they don't even know it happened.
	They have no idea.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	There's an automatic system.
	It's like these native ads.
	There's automatic, pops these ads here and there.
	It had zero influence.
	I wrote about this in the newsletter.
	I had one of these ads.
	I think they're concerned about the following.
	How about this for size?
	Let's say...
	It could happen.
	You know what, Zuckerberg, we want you to testify.
	We need to understand exactly what went on.
	Whether that's open session or not.
	Okay, $100,000.
	It was maybe seen by...
	You know what?
	Could you please give us your real numbers?
	Please show us what $100,000 gets.
	And I think they're afraid to show it.
	That's what I think.
	Shit, we can't have people knowing how we do this.
	This is the secret sauce.
	This is what Google does.
	Yeah, and I don't think that they want anyone to know.
	That's what they'd be afraid of.
	Yeah, no, that is bullcrap.
	There's no effect.
	There's no effect.
	Because it'll turn out that your money is just no good.
	Now, they could turn this around and say, we're so successful, we threw an election with our ads.
	But it's not a good message.
	They can't do that, because then they really would get called to Congress and have to prove it.
	Of course they can't, but that's the problem.
	They're between a rock and a hard place with this bullcrap.
	Our ads are very successful.
	They make people buy products.
	But not if it's Russian ads.
	No, it doesn't work then.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	So they're going to have...
	Yeah, between a rock and a hard place.
	You're right.
	What a conundrum.
	It's a total conundrum because you know they want to brag about how important it was to winning an election.
	Yeah.
	$100,000 won an election, which is nonsense, but they'd love to brag about it because that's what everyone says.
	Wow.
	But if they brag about it, then they get a call before Congress.
	Now, if we were the Curry-Devorak Consulting Group, which we happen to be, what would we advise them?
	This would be a tough one.
	What would we advise them?
	Well, this is a really...
	Well, I'd advise...
	Okay, I would advise them, if you're going to get into this quagmire...
	I'd advise them to go all in.
	Brag about it.
	Say we didn't know that Russians were doing this, but it's obvious that the effectiveness is there and that's the way it goes.
	Go before Congress and say the same thing.
	I agree.
	Just go all in.
	Yes, we're sorry this happened.
	We feel really bad about it.
	But these ads are so powerful on Facebook that we didn't even know they came in because our system is such that we don't really screen these ads as much, I guess, we could have.
	And, you know, it seemed like a legitimate operation.
	So we put them in there.
	And if we'd known this was going on, I was going to throw the election.
	We would have put some controls in because we're going to have to need some.
	But, you know, we can take care of this.
	It will never happen again.
	And then you've got to back them off from wanting to do some legislation.
	Yeah.
	And say, you know, this was a mistake on our part for not having enough controls.
	We will have more controls.
	Oh, we have adjusted.
	Now, here it is.
	Tell them.
	Zuck, Zuck.
	Just tell them you've adjusted the algo.
	Oh, that's the way to finish it, right?
	And you know what, ladies and gentlemen?
	I've adjusted the algo.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, good.
	In fact, it can't happen again is the final words.
	Yes, it can't happen again.
	Exactly.
	The algos are there in place.
	We are under attack by the algos, ladies and gentlemen.
	Don't think it's not true.
	The nest actually turned the air conditioner down.
	At 10 a.m.
	here, which I have been doing manually for three months.
	Now it does it by itself.
	Oh, after three months of training.
	Fantastic!
	I could have trained my service goat to do it for me.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much for tuning in.
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	And remember us for sure at dvorak.org slash n-a.
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