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	Because you don't want people waving these things around and poking a hole in a Van Gogh.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, August 6, 2017.
	This is your award-winning GetVonation Media Assassination, episode niner, five, three.
	This is no agenda.
	Recovering from the 1952 Armagnac, and coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet, right next to the Garden State Outlet Mall in New Jersey, in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley...
	There's no malls around here.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	Yes.
	Well, you're all jacked up on Armagnac.
	On something.
	Oh, I'm not all jacked up.
	Wait, is Skype speeding up my voice again?
	Is that what's going on?
	I'm good.
	No, not at all.
	No, it's not.
	No, don't change a thing.
	It's perfect like that.
	Yes, I gotcha.
	Yeah, I forgot to tell you, and I feel like it's very odd.
	I felt like a guilty lover somehow.
	I forgot to tell you that I was going to New York and New Jersey this weekend.
	Feel that way, Norman.
	I'm sorry?
	What are you doing there?
	Oh, this is my friend Jack Ponte's annual Mexican party.
	Oh, the annual fest.
	Yes, the annual Mexican party.
	A celebrity star-studded affair, I tell you.
	Yeah.
	Who's there?
	Well, my favorite celebrity.
	Medicated Pete?
	Medicated Pete?
	Yes.
	Are you familiar with his work?
	No, I don't remember him.
	He's a guy with Tourette's who is on the Howard Stern Show.
	Oh, okay.
	A colleague, actually.
	You worked with him?
	No, he's a fellow Tourette's sufferer.
	Oh, okay.
	Fellow traveler.
	Fellow traveler.
	Yeah, we exchanged some ideas and thoughts.
	Yeah, you know, if you did the tick this way, you move your mouth a little to the right, it really...
	He said tips when two Tourette's guys exchanged.
	Well, I said, well, what kind of medication are you on, Medicated Pete?
	He said, no, I'm off everything now.
	I'm not on any medication.
	It really messed me up.
	He said, worse than it is now?
	He said, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And I said, well, you know, I find that weed helps.
	He says, really?
	You've never tried that?
	No, no.
	I said, you should try it.
	I couldn't get him to try it last night.
	Medicated peat on weed would have been fantastic.
	Ah.
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	Well, now he dropped all these medications.
	Yes.
	Brings us to a clip.
	Right away?
	Oh, my goodness.
	I wasn't even prepared.
	What you got?
	Well, I wasn't either until you brought this up.
	All right.
	What you got?
	So there's this murder case that's going on.
	Oh, we're going to a happy topic.
	Yeah, excellent.
	This murder case.
	It's not murder, but this is the girl.
	I can't remember her name.
	I think it's mentioned in the report.
	Who was...
	Who goaded her boyfriend into killing himself.
	Right, okay, yes.
	I think we had clips of her.
	She gets on the phone.
	You've been on this story for a while.
	You really like this story.
	The story likes me.
	Yeah, it happens.
	Because it keeps coming into my life, the story.
	And now I see why.
	Go away, story!
	Listen to this.
	This is the girl on Celexa.
	Uh-oh.
	I'm scared.
	Are you okay?
	I love you.
	Please answer.
	Michelle showed little emotion at the trial.
	Her defense relies on this psychiatrist, Peter Bregan, to explain her behavior, even though he was not treating Michelle at the time.
	What did you get this off of?
	I love the dramatized music.
	This is not your typical CBS piece.
	No, no, it's like the 48-hour show or the 2020.
	They take some murder and then they stretch it for an hour.
	Fabulous.
	I love the music.
	Not treating Michelle at the time.
	He testifies that she was involuntarily intoxicated by an antidepressant drug she started taking three months earlier, Celexa.
	She has an involuntary intoxication where she is not forming...
	A criminal intent.
	I'm gonna harm him.
	She was enmeshed in a delusion where she's thinking that it's a good thing to help him die.
	And we'll see grandiosity.
	Her deciding with him that she can help him.
	He wants to die.
	He wants to go to heaven.
	And he doesn't want his family to suffer.
	And she pronounces that she can do all of that.
	But prosecutors completely dismiss that theory.
	She does not tell the Roy family about being on the phone with Conrad the night before, does she?
	His dead body is in a car 24 hours and she withholds that information.
	She's psychotic, deluded, she's disturbed, she's out of touch.
	Inexplicably, Michelle sent more than 80 texts to Conrad after he died.
	In some, she even apologizes for not saving him.
	But it wasn't just Conrad she texted.
	The prosecution is hoping the judge pays particular attention to this text that she sent to her friend Samantha a week after Conrad's body was discovered.
	They have to go through his phone and see if anyone encouraged him to do it on text and stuff.
	They read my messages with him.
	I'm done.
	Yeah, lock her up, I say.
	Hey, so this SSRI, Celexa, Yeah.
	I did a quick search.
	I got the side effects, or at least the published side effects.
	It's not a happy drug, actually, if this is meant to make you happy.
	Constipation, nausea, diarrhea, upset stomach, decreased sexual desire, difficulty having an orgasm, impotence.
	Stop right there.
	Stop right there.
	This is not the drug for you.
	Dizziness, drowsiness, tiredness, insomnia, dry mouth, increased sweating or urination, weight changes, and cold symptoms such as stuffy nose, sneezing, sore throat, or cough.
	But nothing about...
	Oh, here we go.
	Yeah, there's...
	Yes, okay.
	Continue with your story.
	This is not a good drug.
	I got it.
	Well, the point is that the story is...
	I mean, that's the clip, but...
	And when we watched this unfold on the public news shows, you know, she was just some cold-hearted girl who just told her boyfriend to kill himself, and then when he didn't want to, she says, go on, you keep talking about it.
	Just do it.
	You need to do it.
	You want to do it.
	Do it.
	And the next thing you know, she was 17 at the time, or maybe 16.
	And she's on this crazy SSRI, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.
	Bingo.
	Which is not a healthy drug for anybody to take.
	We have a dame in our midst who wrote us describing what happens when you get stuck on these things.
	You have to take them for the rest of your life because your brain never works the same again properly, ever.
	And I think all this did for me was just confirm a thesis that we have on this show that half of these mass murders and nutcases...
	And suicides.
	And suicides.
	And suicides are largely due to these drugs, and it doesn't come out.
	If this case would have turned on that, it would have been a fantastic situation.
	Yeah, like that's going to happen.
	But it didn't, of course.
	No, of course not.
	No, it's not going to happen.
	But...
	Coincidentally, on the same day, I get this clip, the teen girl suicide clip.
	Every parent or grandparent of a teenage girl will need to hear word of an alarming rise in girls taking their own lives, suffering from depression, and often not seeking the help they need.
	Federal health officials are now shining a light on the warning signs you should be on the lookout for.
	We get details from NBC's Rahima Ellis.
	15-year-old Kirsten Killian battled depression since she was a little girl.
	When she was nine was when she had threatened suicide.
	Last year she made another attempt taking an overdose of pills, but reached out to her parents for help.
	And every day I'm so grateful that she did.
	I didn't want to leave my younger siblings.
	Without a little sibling.
	But tonight, disturbing new numbers from the CDC shows too many teenagers are not getting the help they need, especially girls aged 15 to 19.
	The rate of suicide in that group has doubled, cases jumping from 260 to 524 in eight years.
	For boys, the rate jumped 31%.
	Parents will be looking and saying, what can I do?
	The first thing parents can do is to become knowledgeable about mental health.
	Experts say there's no single cause but point to the overwhelming prevalence of social media and cyberbullying as factors.
	And depictions of teenage suicide like this Netflix series, 13 Reasons Why, a TV drama about a high school girl who killed herself.
	How everyone's lives would be better without me.
	Have coincided with an increase of internet searches about suicide.
	Is there anything that parents should be on the lookout for?
	Be on the lookout for changes in your child's patterns of behavior.
	Their sleep patterns, their eating patterns, the way they talk about certain topics.
	Other advice?
	Have specific conversations about how your child is feeling.
	Don't lecture and check in often.
	No one should ever feel ashamed if they're struggling.
	Depression is nobody's fault.
	Kirsten beating the odds and offering wise advice for teenagers and people who care about them.
	Rahima Ellis, NBC News, New York.
	This really opens up a can of interesting worms.
	Last night at this party, and there were, I don't know, 50 people there, all different walks of life, different age ranges, but a lot of us in our 40s, as I say, in our late 40s.
	And, yeah, there was a consensus, a very, and a lot of the women were discussing this amongst, moms were discussing this amongst themselves, how the young children, and I'm talking 13 to, you know, early 20s, I have this constant anxiety over everything.
	The fact that they're even using this word.
	I mean, when I was growing up, when I was a kid, when I was growing up, it would be, I'm scared or, you know, I'm worried or whatever.
	But they continuously use the word anxious.
	I have anxiety.
	And that is what these SSRIs are mainly prescribed for.
	But besides just depression, the word is anxiety.
	And this is new.
	A couple of things stood out in this report.
	I want to talk about the anxiety thing, too.
	I think, if anything, you know how when you're running a business or you're starting something up and then you start to get preoccupied with the competition and you spend a lot of time instead of just doing your own thing?
	Sure.
	Yes, the story of Podshow.
	Okay, continue.
	Well, it's the story of a lot of things.
	It turns out that if you just kind of do your own thing and you just concentrate on what you do, it's going to be individualistic enough so that the competition is not going to necessarily take you out.
	Right.
	But that's a phenomenon of being too connected.
	Right.
	If you weren't connected and you started a business, you didn't care about anything else going on around you.
	You're just going to do this thing.
	And we do it with this podcast.
	We don't really go out and worry about, oh my god.
	We don't go to the conferences.
	We don't go to the conferences to find out what the latest trends are.
	We don't do any of that.
	We don't read the podcasting news.
	I subscribe to it, but I find it hard to read.
	So I don't even do anything.
	And there's no anxiety involved.
	That's left out of the picture.
	I think the social media in this regard is what's caused the anxiety.
	And you bitch about this constantly, which is that people are Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	But as some bogus, oh, look at me.
	I'm so successful.
	Okay, so I got it.
	So let's just quickly turn that around.
	So the anxiety comes from I'm not as successful.
	In fact, my millennial that I talk to from time to time here in Austin.
	My millennial!
	My millennial!
	And she's woke.
	Stay woke.
	She stays woke.
	She had all kinds of psychological stuff going on and she was at UT her first year and she really just fell into a hole of like, holy shit, I'm not the only top dog like I used to be and there's just a lot going on.
	But all of her peers were all on social media and Yeah.
	or something, you know, and, and actually she gave up all social media and does not on it at all and is doing great, which, which just proves your point.
	Yeah.
	And I think that is one element of this, this poor girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself.
	But we also discussed SSRIs and how they...
	One of the problems with a lot of these drugs, not just those, it doesn't make you want to kill yourself.
	But it makes it easier to kill yourself.
	We've talked about this.
	Because it takes inhibitions away.
	I just want to interrupt.
	Before we go on with talking about the drugs, and we have a couple more things to discuss, I want to take us back.
	Before this show, well...
	No, I think maybe we were doing, and we must have been doing the show.
	Let me think.
	Yeah, 2010, of course we were doing the show.
	I'm going to take you back.
	Someone found this clip because it proves how we are both from the future.
	This is on Cranky Geeks.
	Remember that show?
	Yeah.
	It was a pretty good show.
	It was okay.
	Yeah, I liked it.
	It was a good show.
	This is Cranky Geeks episode 219 from 2010.
	And you had written an article about this emerging trend that was, you know, we had two main players at the time, Facebook and Twitter.
	And you wrote an article about how this really was not a good thing.
	And I respond to it.
	The computer is a communications disease.
	Talking about trashing things, this is a column I wrote.
	Asserted in a recent column that these days the machines are used more often to interact than to calculate.
	This has caused a dislocation in society that may take years or decades, I say, to settle.
	It's like when a disease vector is introduced into a population with zero immunity.
	And that's what's happened with all these social networks and everything, and we don't seem to have any way of controlling ourselves.
	And so you have people on Facebook, you know, oh my god, my friend just said something.
	Oh, look at somebody's tweeting me.
	Oh, I've got to say something to them.
	Well, part of what is happening, and anyone who has kids, you've got one on the way.
	Very soon.
	You are excluded.
	Well, your girlfriends are kids.
	We don't know.
	But John and I know.
	It's like drugs.
	And I think it affects people's, not just kids, obviously, but you see it in kids so well.
	It affects your neurotransmitters the same way.
	It's just like these quick...
	I got something.
	Oh, I got something.
	And then you just have to keep going back because it's exciting.
	You know, when email, electronic mail first came out, like, I got mail!
	You know, AOL, you've got mail.
	I mean, this was exciting.
	So this is just to the nth degree, and it's addictive.
	How good are we?
	I just want to spike that ball for a moment.
	Boom.
	That was on which Cranky Geeks?
	Was that the original Cranky Geeks?
	No, this was the pod show Cranky Geeks.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	But 2010...
	Yeah, I think we were on it pretty early.
	I think earlier than that.
	That's only six years ago.
	Seven.
	But the point is that it's a dangerous mechanism and it seems to be affecting kids.
	And I think the anxiety angle, which is the one that I express when you try to start a business...
	And you start looking at the competition and you get all anxious about it.
	This is just multiple...
	This is like exaggerated with the social media.
	And so then they end up having to...
	That's what gets them on the pills.
	And when this girl...
	On the suicide story, there was the one girl who...
	Apparently didn't kill herself and now she's a happy camper.
	It said she tried to kill herself by taking pills, a bunch of pills.
	What pills?
	It wasn't aspirin or Tylenol, I'm sure.
	It was some drug that she already had prescribed for her or her mom.
	And it was a trank of some sort.
	Nice word, trank.
	I like that.
	Trank.
	It's a trank, baby.
	That's a phrase in the shade.
	Yeah, trank.
	It's an old one, a trank.
	There's a great article in The Atlantic that actually was The Brain Professor posted on the face bag.
	And although it's not very scientific, the author went through a lot of statistics and tried to figure out what exactly happened with this enormous change with children who were born about 13 years ago.
	Do they have a generational name yet?
	I think they're still part of the young millennials.
	I think.
	I don't know.
	We'll have to ask someone.
	So around 2012...
	They stopped wanting to get driver's licenses, which is really a remarkable change in the United States.
	Here's the sequence of events.
	You want your freedom as a kid.
	I want my freedom.
	How are you going to get your freedom?
	Car.
	That was it for us.
	Car.
	How am I going to get a car?
	Got to get a part-time job.
	All these things kind of cascaded into something.
	I had a driver's license at 15.
	Yeah, because the coming of age is very normal.
	Now...
	First of all, we have the parents driving their kids everywhere because, you know, they might scrape their knee or, you know, someone might look at them funny.
	You go to any school and there's like a line around the block of cars dropping their kids off if they can't walk.
	There are schools with valet parking.
	So you can take your kid in and then your car comes back.
	That's crazy.
	And...
	So, instead of kids wanting the car so badly, and this is why I look at the Subaru ad, and I'm like, you guys have got it all wrong.
	No, this is not.
	The kids don't want it.
	Now parents are nagging their children, please get a license.
	This is a big change.
	This change took place a lot earlier than 13 years ago.
	I'm just telling you what the author says.
	I think the author's off by a decade.
	Could be.
	Anyway, his whole point...
	And the whole car culture's dead.
	There is no car culture anymore.
	When you see a hot rod or some cool car of any sort, I don't care if it's just a...
	It's a car you can get off the showroom lot.
	If it's cool or it's the kind of car that you'd like or I'd like or anybody over 30, 40 would like, it's always an old fart driving it.
	You never see any kids.
	When I was a kid, the guys who used to drive those types of cars had the pomade hairdos and the duck tails.
	And they had names like Knicky.
	Now, of course, in the Mission in San Francisco, where you have a high Hispanic population, yes, you still have young people into a car culture.
	The cars are all jacked up.
	They bounce around.
	It's actually quite funny.
	But that is a minority in terms of the rest of the population.
	Well, something else happened around 2000, or two other things happened, according to this article.
	And the first is, teens withdrew, then would much rather be at home With their friends maybe, but they didn't seem to go out that much.
	And they're really just not out until the streetlights come on.
	Anyway, the author boils this down to 2012 when iPhone ownership crossed 50%.
	Whatever, the population.
	I don't know what the hell his number is here.
	And the transition to the iPad.
	And these kids, we have the millennials who grew up with the transition to the internet.
	We have them who grew up with it.
	But really, the 13-year-olds, they don't know any different.
	They think every screen is a touchscreen.
	This went very fast.
	This went very, very fast.
	I would have to argue a couple of points.
	Okay.
	Well, first of all, I think the guy's dates are way off, and it's got nothing to do with the iPhone.
	The phone itself is the problem, and the kids had cell phones.
	A lot of them were flip phones, yes, but they were still phones, and they were on them all the time, and text messaging is not that new.
	The iPhone just made it worse, but the situation had already gone over the top long before 2007 when the iPhone came out.
	So this goes back a lot further than this show, as a matter of fact.
	And also, what's the iPad got to do with it?
	That's not even a situational thing that would cause anything to change societally.
	Well, I think the point there is that parents would just give the iPad to their kids to shut them up.
	Like, here, play with this and shut up.
	Yeah, this is specious.
	I think the phone is one of the killers, but I also think these drugs are the huge problem.
	I'm all in on the drugs.
	I'm just giving some additional info.
	The drugs are clearly the problem.
	It adds something, but if you look at the date that they allowed TV advertising of drugs, I think that's a more interesting date than 2012 when there was a crossover point with just the iPhone.
	It sounds like a promotion for Apple.
	Now...
	With that in mind, I picked up a drug commercial since we're on this topic.
	Okay, I got some drug stuff too.
	This is a great show.
	We're off to a happy land.
	Now let's go to the 30 seconds.
	Now this is, I've seen a lot of commercials for drugs, but how many 30 second ones do you ever see?
	Almost none.
	They are at least 90 seconds.
	You get 30 seconds of the benefit and 60 seconds of the side effects.
	Now, except with something like aspirin, they'll do 30 seconds.
	Let's listen to this 30 seconds.
	Excuse me.
	When is the last time you saw an aspirin commercial series?
	I saw an aspirin ad recently.
	Really?
	Oh, man.
	I have not seen it.
	I'll give you a couple of examples.
	You'll remember.
	This will strike a nerve.
	The ad goes, somebody's got a sore neck.
	And he's looking at me, he's on a plane or something, and he wants ibuprofen or something for his soreness, and they say, I got some aspirin.
	I said, well, I don't have a headache, he says.
	And they said, no, no, aspirin's good for these things, too.
	You don't remember that ad?
	No, no.
	It's blown around for a while.
	No.
	Anyway, so listen to the...
	These people are so...
	These drug companies, they are scum.
	Listen to this ad.
	I was infected with HPV. Maybe my parents didn't know how widespread HPV is.
	While HPV clears up for most, that wasn't the case for me.
	Maybe they didn't know I would end up with cancer because of HPV. Maybe if they had known there was a vaccine to help protect me when I was 11 or 12.
	Maybe my parents just didn't know.
	Alright, Mom.
	Dad?
	What will you say?
	Don't wait.
	Talk to your child's doctor today.
	Learn more at hpv.com.
	This is a bunch of scumbags.
	Damn.
	So, no disclaimers about Guillain-Barre and other...
	This is, I think they've...
	By the way, there's a girl's version of this commercial, too.
	Oh, of course.
	Where they're guilt-tripping the parents.
	And, you know, the boys only get it through cunnilingus.
	They don't mention it.
	I think they have found a loophole.
	Oh, that they don't have to do the disclaimer?
	Because they're not selling the drug.
	Oh shit, let me listen to it again.
	Oh my god, I didn't even realize this.
	Hold on, let's listen to it again.
	I was infected with HPV. Maybe my parents didn't know how widespread HPV is.
	While HPV clears up for most, that wasn't the case for me.
	Maybe they didn't know I would end up with cancer because of HPV. Maybe if they had known there was a vaccine to help protect me when I was 11 or 12.
	Maybe my parents just didn't know.
	Alright mom.
	Dad?
	What will you say?
	Don't wait.
	Talk to your child's doctor today.
	Learn more at hpv.com.
	Wow.
	I thought that the call to action...
	Well, maybe it was to talk to your child's doctor.
	I thought that was the call to action that would be the legal part that they removed, but they have it in there.
	How different is this really?
	It's not about the drug.
	Yeah, they're not saying the drug that you write.
	They never mention a drug.
	They just say there's a vaccine available, and you should talk to your children about it.
	And they have a website for more people.
	It's just the generality.
	Wow.
	They never mention Gardasil.
	No.
	That's what, you know, that's behind it, right?
	Behind Gardasil?
	This is the most obscene commercial I've found ever.
	Of course it's Gardasil.
	Yeah, of course.
	You have to, if you just look at the stats and the effectiveness of this particular product.
	No, it's shit.
	It's crap.
	But the way they were on the guilt trip on the parents about their kids getting them to make sure their kids get saved from cancer.
	This poor boy is dying right in front of us because his parents were too stupid to get him vaccinated.
	This is very good.
	But any of the side effects, nothing.
	And they get the benefit of it being a 30-second commercial, which is half the price.
	Bend over.
	Get out of the way.
	Just stop already.
	Dynamite!
	Dynamite.
	Dynamite, I say.
	Well, these guys, they nailed it.
	And you know what?
	Now I look at things with different eyes.
	Here's a couple things I have.
	Our favorite drug or life-saving medication is naloxone.
	This is the drug that...
	We'll immediately bring someone back from an opioid overdose.
	Here we have the back of a bus.
	Let me see.
	I don't know if this is in Washington State.
	I'm not sure.
	They said, you can stop overdose death.
	Get naloxone.
	Save a life.
	Get all the info at don'tdie.org.
	And there's a big hypodermic needle on it.
	Go to DontDie.org.
	You've got to see this thing.
	Let's see if it's on that website.
	Hold on a second.
	This is fantastic.
	These people have no shame.
	DontDie.org.
	And it sounds good.
	DontDie.org!
	Well, they have a commercial.
	You want to check the commercial, see if it's anything good?
	Yeah, play it.
	You never know.
	Okay, let me see if my browser will accept this request.
	Get trained to administer naloxone and save a life from opioid overdose.
	Don't tell me this is one of these videos with...
	Hi, I'm Dr.
	Lena Nguyen, the Baltimore City Health Commissioner.
	Hi.
	Addiction is a disease.
	Like other diseases, it does not discriminate.
	It affects people of all ages.
	Mind you, this is the Boston City Commissioner who was on this ad website for naloxone.
	That's interesting.
	To me, at least.
	Play.
	Come on.
	It affects people of all ages, all backgrounds, and all communities.
	Like all other diseases, it is about life and death.
	More people die from overdose in Baltimore City than die from homicide.
	Alright, I'll have to look at that a little time.
	It's just going to go on forever.
	Produced by the Baltimore City Health Department.
	Jeez.
	So they're in bed with naloxone.
	Yes.
	Hmm.
	They're planting false evidence on naloxone patients.
	I don't know about that.
	It's a joke about Baltimore.
	Baltimore police have been busted twice for planting drugs on people because when they turn their cam on, they don't realize the cam has been streaming all along and it captures 30 seconds before.
	It's unbelievable.
	There's a story on it.
	But anyway, it's a different story.
	I have one little tie-in to this, which is something you don't see very often.
	In fact, he even mentioned that you don't see very often on television, particularly when it comes to pharmaceuticals.
	Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	Now, this was one of those, we'll do the interview because you're in town and we'll throw it in some other time type of deals on Tucker Carlson.
	Right.
	Evergreen.
	Yeah, and Evergreen.
	I don't think I've ever heard Kennedy speak so clearly and eloquently about the main problems of vaccination, which, as we know, is the complete immunity of the drug companies.
	That's the main problem right there, the complete immunity, and he has some statistics that he shares in this clip.
	Which means you can't sue them if you die, although there is a fund and people are successfully suing for some money.
	Yeah, you get some money out of the fund.
	Yeah, it's the, what is it, the Vaccine Death Fund or some government name like that.
	But also, he had throat cancer, I believe.
	I don't remember, but I think that was it.
	Yeah, well, it's gotten really bad, his speech.
	It's really bad.
	So you have to focus a little bit, but what he's saying is quite interesting.
	And what you have to understand is that the vaccine regimen changed dramatically around 1989.
	The reason it changed, Tucker, is that Congress drowning in pharmaceutical industry money.
	It's something they've never done for any other industry.
	They gave blanket legal immunity to all the vaccine companies so that no matter how sloppy the line protocol calls, no matter how absent the quality control, no matter how toxic the ingredient or egregious the injury to your child, you cannot sue There's no class action suits.
	All of a sudden, vaccines became enormously profitable.
	And in 87, it was implemented, and then there was a gold rush by the pharmaceutical industry to add new vaccines to the schedule.
	So, I got three vaccines, and I was fully compliant.
	I'm 63 years old.
	My children got 69 doses of 16 vaccines to be compliant.
	And a lot of these vaccines aren't even for communicable, you know, casually communicable diseases like hepatitis B which comes from unprotected sex or, you know, sharing needles.
	Why do we give that to a child the first day of their life?
	And it was loaded with mercury.
	And we do give that to children?
	We continue to give it to them.
	The mercury has been taken out of three vaccines in this country, but it remains in the flu vaccine, 48 million flu vaccines.
	And it's in vaccines all over the world.
	And it is the most potent neurotoxin known to man that is not radioactive.
	How can we inject that into a child?
	If you take that vaccine vial and break it, you have to dispose of that as hazardous waste.
	You have to evacuate the building.
	And I think...
	I'm called anti-vax all the time because the pharmaceutical industry is so powerful, both with the media.
	They give $5.4 billion a year to the media.
	And they've gotten rid of the lawyers, so there's no legal interest in those cases.
	And they really have been able to control the debate and silence people like me.
	And I'm very grateful to you for having the courage to allow me on this show and talk.
	This is the second show in ten years that's allowed me to talk about this, the other one being Bill Maher, which doesn't take advertising.
	There you go.
	Very succinct.
	It's the immunity, it's the mercury...
	And it's the 5.4 billion dollars in advertising.
	And I recommend to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	to stay out of hotel kitchens and convertibles in Texas.
	I think he's fine because he doesn't get on anything.
	He says in 10 years he's done two shows.
	Yeah.
	Of which one has no advertising.
	That's very good.
	One has no advertising.
	That's really good.
	The other one, this will probably be his last time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no.
	And I also think, just to wrap it up there, I'm pretty sure that a lot of moms...
	I'm going to point to moms specifically.
	A lot of moms pass on the idea of Xanax to their kids.
	But I think Xanax has not been helpful.
	Mommy, why do you take that?
	There's a ton of these drugs.
	But Xanax in particular, Mommy, why are you taking that?
	Well, it's a little anxious.
	They got the word from somewhere.
	This is what's bugging me the most.
	How come the word anxious?
	Why?
	Perhaps that's the word you need to say to get the prescription.
	That's possible.
	I don't know.
	You're anxious?
	You're anxious.
	Go run around the block.
	I'll take care of it.
	I love your logic.
	I got to put their shoes on.
	Screw it.
	I'll just stick around and stay anxious.
	Now, there was something...
	What was it?
	Somewhere in...
	Oh, kind of like the commercial for Gardasil.
	I'm sorry.
	Get your HPV information.
	Tina came home the other day and she says, holy shit, one of her daughters is driving back to Arkansas.
	I can't remember exactly where she's driving from, but she's going to go through Missouri.
	She said, I just heard the NAACP Put out a warning for Missouri that discrimination is going on.
	They warn people of color.
	They warn travelers going through the state.
	And she immediately is like texting.
	She's like, oh, you know, be careful.
	Lock the doors.
	What do you do?
	And I, and I, Hey, you know what happens with me?
	I go, I smell bullshit.
	So I have two examples of just some news, just little news intros so you get the idea of the headline, and then what's behind it is, of course, shameful.
	Here's just the headline.
	The NAACP has put out a new warning for people traveling to Missouri.
	It advises extreme caution, saying travelers could be subject to discrimination and harassment.
	Okay, that's one example.
	Beware of Missouri.
	That is what one civil rights group is saying by issuing a travel advisory.
	But it's not just meant for people outside of our state.
	Alright, so you get the idea.
	This is what she heard.
	She's like, oh crap!
	She's going to Lebanon!
	So the NAACP, at least this local chapter, who called out this travel advisory, to me this is really scummy.
	It's not just what they did, but how the news media really colluded to bring this breaking news headline.
	And pretty much all of them eventually get into what's really behind it, which is a...
	It's political.
	It's completely political.
	It's about a bill that was signed by the governor...
	State bill number 43, which we'll talk about in a minute.
	And here is the guy from the NAACP. Attorney Nimrod Chappell Jr.
	is the president of the...
	And I love his name is Nimrod.
	That just kind of completes this...
	His name is Nimrod.
	Attorney Nimrod Chappell Jr.
	is the president of the NAACP in Missouri.
	He says a bill recently signed into law by Republican Governor Eric Greitens is so dangerous, Chappell has a name for it.
	The Jim Crow bill, because in the eyes of the NAACP, that's what it was breathing life into.
	Currently, you can file a discrimination claim in the state of Missouri if things like race, religion, and gender are a contributing factor to discrimination.
	But later this month, alleged victims of discrimination would have to prove it as the motivating factor, and Chappell says that's extremely hard to do.
	You would think that the best evidence would be like a memo, right?
	We discriminated against so-and-so because they are who they are.
	Nobody writes memos, or when they do, it's so rare.
	And then getting that kind of evidence can be very, very difficult.
	Now, before we get into what is going on here, again, let me just remind you of the terrorism, the terrorism that the media is bestowing amongst people.
	The NAACP has put out a new warning for people traveling to Missouri.
	It advises extreme caution, saying travelers could be subject to discrimination and harassment.
	I mean, that is very far from what's going on.
	How are you subject?
	You're driving through whatever highway is going through there.
	80?
	I don't know.
	And it goes through there and you're subject to discrimination.
	What does that mean?
	Get that gray car.
	Get it out of the way.
	Pull it over.
	According to this state bill, which I obviously read, the way it would work, you're traveling through Missouri, you apply for a job, and you get a job, and then you're fired by And if you feel that you were fired because of discrimination, which, by the way, I think NAACP is completely appropriating this, whereas it's more likely that someone will be fired these days based upon gender, at least if we believe the media reports.
	So they're making it all about Jim Crow, which I think is, you know, if you're against the bill, okay, but you're really appropriating the bill.
	That's a nice term.
	Um...
	So then you would have to be fired, and all this would happen while you're traveling through the state.
	So this is bullshit, and it's shameful.
	It's shameful.
	It really is.
	Yeah.
	There's probably hundreds of thousands of people that travel through the state from point A to point B daily, and why should they be...
	Told this stuff.
	And I kind of like this bill because this is a huge problem for employers.
	We've talked about this many times.
	This bill says that if you're fired and you want to sue because you believe you were fired based upon discrimination, which is illegal, you would have to prove that that is the motivating factor.
	And I think there are many ways you can prove that.
	And for this lawyer to say, no one writes a memo.
	Just look at everyone's email.
	There's tons of shit in email.
	Look at Hollywood's emails making fun of black people.
	Remember that from the Sony hack?
	Yeah, the Sony bust.
	At the top levels.
	The top levels.
	So that would be very clear.
	The top levels are worse.
	Yeah.
	So that would be very, very clear.
	The top levels are worse than the guys down below.
	Yeah.
	You've been in those meetings where you have a number of CEOs, and they're all over the place.
	They're all industries, but there's a lot of them in tech.
	And they cuss constantly.
	They can't get a sentence out with having an F-bomb in it.
	It's unbelievable to try to listen to them.
	Yeah, it's some kind of alpha male power thing for some reason.
	But I like this because it's a big problem.
	People are suing for discrimination left and right.
	You can't run a business anymore.
	Then I think it's reasonable.
	You have to show it was the motivating factor and not just that someone just...
	Well, I don't know.
	You know what?
	You can't run a business anymore.
	I think as an operator, you can run a small business, you can have a three-man operation, or you can have the No Agenda show.
	Barely.
	I mean, you can have those businesses.
	You're not going to get sued for discrimination.
	You have to be of a certain size.
	And so I think it encourages small businesses.
	The big companies, they have...
	You can be a small company of...
	Two people, three people, your wife maybe.
	You can be a monstrous company that's just a massive mega company because they have an entire staff of people to deal with these annoyances, which is the way they see them.
	HR, baby.
	But you can't be a middle-sized business.
	No, you can't.
	You can't be a growing business.
	No.
	You can't be in the middle.
	You'll get killed.
	Well, Missouri has changed that and the governor signed that into law and now Missouri is dangerous for travelers.
	It's just insanely insulting is what it is.
	But if this had happened in California, oh no, where's Evergreen College?
	Washington State.
	Washington State, yes.
	It might have been a little different as Professor Brett Weinstein is threatening to sue over the recent fracas.
	It's been surreal.
	This has turned our lives absolutely upside down.
	Brett Weinstein teaches biology at the Evergreen State College, but this spring he was better known as that supposedly racist teacher.
	He became the target of protests after criticizing proposed changes to college policies regarding race and refusing to leave campus on a day when white students and faculty members were encouraged to go elsewhere.
	He did end up holding classes off campus after those protests and a conversation with the college's police chief.
	She said, are you on campus?
	I said, no.
	She said, please don't come to campus.
	And I said, what's going on?
	And she said, protesters are searching car to car, looking for an individual, and we believe it's you.
	And that was obviously a very alarming call to receive.
	Weinstein has informed the state he and his wife, who also teaches at Evergreen, may sue for nearly $4 million in damage.
	Why the f*** is he here?
	Weinstein says the college fosters a racially hostile work and retaliatory environment, and the protests showed the school failed to set or enforce any boundaries for protests.
	It became very clearly criminal at the point that they were...
	Barricading administrators in the president's office and controlling their movements and stalking people on the campus openly.
	Weinstein fears the protests and problems will come right back with students in the fall.
	As for he and his wife, he hopes his possible legal action will bring about changes to Evergreen.
	We would love to return.
	We cannot return if the college is not made safe, and it has to be made safe for people to express points of view that are at odds with the conventional wisdom of the moment.
	I think this will be an interesting test of the tort.
	This is not going to work out.
	Tell me these these these educators, the guys who are running these colleges.
	And I'm and it's not just Evergreen.
	There's other schools.
	I mean, Yale is a good example.
	Harvard is a good example.
	Cal Berkeley is somewhat of an example.
	Occidental College is a good example, which has got an interesting twist to it.
	These guys haven't got the nerve.
	They haven't got the guts to expel students.
	And in fact, the whole situation has gotten so out of control that the dean at the Purdue University, the dean of engineering, is now wanting them to back off somewhat on making people take take math.
	In the engineering department.
	Here's a clip.
	Here's a clip.
	This is the CSU. Yeah, the Purdue thing.
	You can look it up.
	Here's a clip.
	CSU reading and math is being phased down.
	California State University's 23 campuses are getting rid of math and English placement exams for incoming freshmen.
	Instead of the exam, schools will look at students' SAT and ACT scores along with high school grades to decide on course placement.
	Administrators say those sources are a better measure of a student's abilities.
	CSU is also ending mandatory remedial courses that some students have complained delayed their coursework.
	These changes are part of a plan that's aimed at increasing graduation rates.
	Currently, only 20% of CSU students graduate within four years.
	You know what's next?
	Math is racist, man.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	You're joking, but I can see it actually happening.
	I'm not really joking.
	So they're dropping the math and they're dropping any English to that, and they want more people to graduate.
	There's two or three problems here.
	One, there's 20% graduation rate.
	They want it to go up.
	Yeah, of course.
	The main problem that we're going to run into is the precedent that is being set in the private schools, many of which have already gone under, where they sue the school for not giving them the education they promised.
	Or the job they promised.
	The job they promised.
	Yeah, the job.
	Well, the jobs, but also you could do on the same basis as the education.
	And in that report, they mentioned that they're going to cancel remedial courses.
	At the University of California, I had to take a remedial course.
	I had to take what they called back, there was English A or English 1 or something like that.
	It was called...
	It's called Bonehead English because they determined my high school education didn't teach me English very well, and I needed to take this simple course on how to write.
	And it was about half the students had to take this course because the high schools weren't serving the public well, and that's just worsened since then, I'm sure, which is, you know, 100 years ago.
	But They're going to drop the bonehead English.
	They're going to drop bonehead math.
	So, you know, you can't count.
	One, two, three, five, seven, eight.
	Oh, it's fine.
	It's fine.
	1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 13.
	You know how to use a calculator?
	Yeah, I do.
	Okay, you're good to go.
	So you end up with a situation where they're going to graduate.
	People are going to start suing the schools after they're out because the schools didn't give them a...
	They can't read English.
	And the taxpayers are going to have to pick up the tab.
	This is California State University.
	You know what's going to become of those kids?
	They're going to become podcasters.
	I wonder what joke you're going to come up with there.
	They won't be able to turn the dial.
	What's a dial?
	It's lighter.
	It's bad.
	It's so bad.
	It's completely out of control.
	And again, going back to Evergreen, if they expelled, imagine yourself being a student today.
	It's a pain in the ass to get into these schools.
	You've got to pay a fortune to do it.
	And you get expelled, and you have to go home and live with your mom.
	This is not going to go over.
	The parents would finally maybe do something about this.
	They'd be making a fuss.
	But expel these kids.
	That used to be a thing.
	You're going to be, oh, he was expelled.
	Oh, shit.
	I don't want that.
	You don't want that on your record.
	Remember that?
	You have a record.
	These days, you actually do have a record.
	You don't want to get expelled.
	He's expelled from school.
	So all those evergreen kids should have been expelled.
	Hey, you know what?
	Here's a question.
	I need some research on this.
	So let's say your amygdala is enlarged.
	Your frontal cortex is not communicating properly.
	Then, you know, you're mad as hell.
	You're not going to take it anymore.
	Throw some SSRIs into the mix.
	Then what happens?
	What happens when you get all pissed off and you're on that stuff?
	I don't know.
	It's not good.
	I don't think so.
	But that's what's going on.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So what else?
	We're on a roll here.
	Yeah.
	Well, I got a deconstruction.
	Any more negative stuff to depress our listeners?
	No, I do have a...
	I do have one.
	I got a clip.
	I got it.
	Here, Alex Jones ISO. Are you going to depress everyone?
	Alex Jones ISO. ISO, yes, sir.
	These are pigs!
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	There's a combo here.
	There's a combo.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if I can do this combo.
	I'm on remote, so it's always a little harder to grab everything.
	These are pigs.
	It's clear to me.
	And I just think the American people...
	Nah, nah, nah.
	Shit.
	I messed it up.
	This is the one I wanted.
	Okay, maybe it goes like this.
	This is a bunch of scumbags.
	These are pigs.
	There you go.
	There's a combo.
	Yeah.
	Getting there.
	Alright.
	This is a deconstruction that I think you'll enjoy.
	It's for NPR. Who are scumbags?
	Because they lie.
	Blatant, blatant lie.
	We had these transcripts come out.
	No one's really...
	The president's transcripts of Pina Nieto and...
	Who's the guy in...
	Yeah, in Australia.
	Australia.
	The Aussie dude.
	So these transcripts are now published, and again, it's a story.
	But listen to the lead-in of NPR, about to talk to the, of course, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO journalist.
	It's always the WAPO. WAPO. Yeah, of course it's the WAPO. Listen to the intro and tell me what's wrong.
	Soon after President Trump took office, he had phone calls with world leaders that made headlines.
	Now the Washington Post has obtained transcripts of a couple of those calls.
	What is with Mexico's president?
	Trump describes the border while he campaigned on as, quote, the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.
	Okay.
	So what did he say at the end there?
	That he was discussing with the Mexican president.
	The most important?
	I was confused by what he said.
	Let's listen one more time.
	Let me back it up just a little bit, just so you hear it precisely in context.
	The least important thing we are talking about, but politically...
	Shit, I'm sorry.
	I need to back it up even more, otherwise it's not in context.
	Here we go.
	has obtained transcripts of a couple of those calls.
	One is with Mexico's president.
	Trump describes the border wall he campaigned on as, quote, the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.
	Okay, so apparently President Trump said to President Pinedo that the border wall is the least important thing we are talking about.
	Okay?
	That's how it's set up here.
	By NPR. Your National Public Radio.
	Let me read you the transcript.
	Yeah, I know exactly where you're going, because that's a lie.
	It's a big, fat lie.
	We cannot say that anymore, because if you're going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet you guys anymore, because I cannot live with that.
	I'm willing to say that we will work it out, but that means it will come out in the wash, and that's okay.
	But you cannot say anymore that the United States is going to pay for the wall.
	I'm just going to say that we are working on it.
	Believe it or not, this is the least important thing that we are talking about politically.
	This might be the most important we talk about.
	But in terms of dollars or pesos, I could just hear him say that.
	But in terms of dollars or pesos, it's the least important thing.
	I know how to build on and on and on.
	So what the least important thing was, was who's going to pay for it.
	Not the wall.
	And now again, just for those of you who cannot believe the lies, I'm going to play you that intro again.
	He had phone calls with world leaders that made headlines.
	Now the Washington Post has obtained transcripts of a couple of those calls.
	One is with Mexico's president.
	Trump describes the border wall he campaigned on as quote, the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.
	Lie.
	Just a lie.
	Well, he said the words least important.
	Didn't he?
	Those words least important were in there.
	Yeah, he could have stuck that to anything.
	Like the peso.
	He finds the peso is the least important thing.
	Well, that's funny you have a clip like that because I have a clip which is not about this.
	When you finish this up, I want to play it.
	I'm done.
	Move for it.
	And show you exactly how I can do the same thing.
	Let's do it.
	Okay, well this is, I got, there's a couple of clips.
	One is rant about mission control and then rant about mission control fixed.
	I want you to play the long clip, which is rant about mission control and see where I've pulled a WAPO NPR and I've manipulated the clip without editing it.
	You've done production!
	But I didn't edit it.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm ready.
	I'm sitting down.
	You're gonna have to see how this works.
	We're strapped in.
	We have another problem.
	Take a look at the consoles.
	I used to have an abort switch in there.
	Where the heck's the abort switch?
	The displays don't work anymore.
	Carpeting's held together with duct tape.
	Apollo's mission control has decayed from neglect and souvenir seekers who took pieces of space history.
	When you look at the condition of the room today, what goes through your mind?
	It's a combination of frustration, anger, resentment.
	This is not appropriate.
	This is where our generation made history.
	This is where Apollo fulfilled the challenge issued by President Kennedy.
	Space Center Houston hopes to raise $5 million to restore the room to its 1960s glory.
	This is a room that will now represent the best America had to offer.
	Okay.
	So this was a mission control room there, and it was going to represent, and if you play that clip and listen to it, the best America has to offer is failure.
	Yeah, because the thing is a piece of crap.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's actually not the way that clip really ended.
	Ah.
	So now you can see, now I'm going to play, now that could have been a presentation, and I could have left it in there, and nobody would go, oh, that's, yeah, it's like what you thought was a piece of crap.
	Yeah.
	So.
	Can I hear the ending again of the original?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	...to raise five million dollars to restore the room to its 1960s glory.
	This is a room that will now represent the best America had to offer.
	Failure.
	Failure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's a standalone.
	It works.
	And this is what the media can do, and they do it all the time.
	But let's play what really happened at the end of that clip.
	The best America had to offer.
	Failure is not an option.
	Kranz is part of one more mission.
	Wow, good one.
	Good one.
	Yeah, failure's not an option.
	Failure's not an option.
	And that's what we have to deal with constantly when we're doing this show, because they're doing that to us, and that's what you just did with the NPR guy.
	Only he talked it out, but he misrepresented.
	He misrepresented the facts.
	He did.
	He did.
	Yeah, and that's our national treasure, by the way.
	National treasure.
	Yeah.
	What happens on our show, too, people are always editing stuff together to make something out of, you know, something that didn't happen.
	Yes, but it's funny.
	I have an example here.
	This was an edit by Kevin Reeves, who was a very accomplished musician.
	Get out of my juicy vagina!
	I mean, seriously.
	I mean, that did not happen that way.
	Get out of my juice.
	Oh, my God.
	Kevin is bored.
	I've got nothing better to do.
	I've got an idea.
	What is it you want to do now?
	You're always fooling around in the studio.
	Oh, man.
	Hey, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C. The C stands for Climax Maybe Difficult.
	Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also...
	In the morning to all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the names and knights out there.
	Yo!
	In the morning to the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Appreciate you all being there.
	Have been helpful.
	Handed me some good info this morning.
	And I also want to thank, besides all of our artists who diligently upload fantastic artwork to noagendaartgenerator.com, I want to thank Mark G. for his artwork for episode 9 or 5-2, the iChip with a registered trademark.
	And we have to talk about that in a second.
	This was great.
	We'll talk about that in a minute.
	Did you put that on the list?
	I did.
	I put it on the list.
	I put it on the list, yeah.
	It was good enough for the list.
	So Mark G. did a great piece of artwork, an original piece, the abstract, with the White House depicted as a dump under power lines with a big smokestack behind it.
	We got some refrigerators in the front yard, a pickup truck with no axle.
	Yeah, it was good.
	Very funny.
	Nailed it.
	Very nice piece.
	So thank you very much, Mark G. And again, on noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And the reason I wanted to bring up the R is after the show, we always chat for about 20 minutes.
	While we're talking, I'm doing the post-production.
	It was, yeah.
	Post-production and the artwork, and we come up with the title, and then I start to upload.
	That's quite a process.
	It could be more automated.
	And...
	And so we came up with a name, iChip, with a registered trademark symbol, which is option R on my keyboard.
	And so I published the RSS feed, and it's not showing up in the podcast app.
	I'm like, what is going on?
	Now, this inexperienced podcasters who have not been around could have been working on this problem for hours.
	Ours.
	But, you're guardians of reality.
	And in this case, tech guru John C. Dvorak called it.
	Yeah, you thought I was maybe joking.
	Yeah, you want to explain?
	Yeah, I said it's not going through because you put that R trademark thing in there and it's choking on it.
	Yep, that's exactly it.
	No double-biting coded for you!
	Yeah.
	Filing coding.
	Yeah, and then you went, first you said, that can't be it.
	That's idiotic if that's it, you said.
	Yes.
	And then I said, I'll bet you that's it.
	And I did not.
	And then you went on a tirade.
	About how crazy this is.
	You went on a tirade.
	You just went crazy about how this is so stupid.
	Yeah.
	Very funny.
	It would have been good for the show.
	I might have it still on the backup record.
	And it is.
	It's idiotic.
	It's pretty sad.
	Pretty sad is what it is.
	Alright, let's thank some people.
	What's really sad, from our perspective, is actually funnier.
	With the i-chip with a little R on the corner there.
	And it doesn't work.
	It's a show title.
	And that show title doesn't work on Apple stuff.
	That's great.
	Yeah, and I'd have to also assume that a small TM wouldn't work either.
	Doubtful.
	Doubtful.
	So...
	Welcome to the world of technology.
	It made a lot of things choke, actually.
	I see the chat room that Doug, our bot, he choked on it.
	He couldn't deal with it.
	It's sad, man.
	How long have we been dealing with this?
	We've only had this stuff going on for the last 35 years.
	This is a column.
	I'm telling you, this is a column.
	I need more examples.
	People can send me some examples of this little choking on minor things that should work and they don't work.
	I'll compile them and make a column out of it.
	Nick the Rat says that Doug chokes on more than that, but I don't know.
	He may know more than that.
	Good.
	Let's thank a few people for Associate Executive Producer and Executive Producers for Show.
	Nine or five, three.
	Nine, five, three.
	Now, we have to thank people.
	We lost a few people from the last show because there was a day missing from the download.
	So we're going to incorporate them into this show and give them the credit on this show.
	Now, do you have a combined sheet?
	Because I have them separately.
	I do not have a combined sheet.
	I have two sheets.
	And I'm going to read from one and then go to the other.
	You're two sheets to the wind.
	I'm two sheets to the wind, which you were last night, I'm sure.
	Uh-huh.
	I'm still hammered.
	What are you talking about?
	Three sheets to the wind.
	I had at least five glasses.
	We were like, oh, that's a Gucci bag.
	You had five glasses of Armagnac?
	Yeah.
	Holy mackerel.
	Somebody should have brought that camera out.
	That should have been pretty funny.
	Well, that's the photo of me in the medicated peak.
	The problem with Ari here is...
	I'm going to mention this.
	This is a medicated Pete's bottle?
	No, but no, he didn't.
	He sent me a picture of the bottle.
	Yeah, okay.
	Adam sent me a picture of the bottle.
	I look at it and say, ah, vintage Armagnac.
	Vintage Armagnac, which could be any amount of years old, is usually bottled around 30.
	And then from then on, it doesn't really improve much, but it is from wherever it was from when this was in 1953.
	So this was a Ritsy product.
	52, 52, 52.
	It was from 1952.
	But they're all...
	The thing about vintage Armagnocs for people who like to have a glass of whiskey at the end of the meal or during the day, this stuff is always...
	And generally speaking, I would say people who drink cognac and Armagnoc will agree with this.
	A good vintage Armagnoc, which most of them are, It's hard to stop drinking.
	Yes, I agree.
	I agree wholeheartedly.
	It's very hard to stop drinking.
	I don't recommend them for people who can't drink.
	Yeah.
	and start drinking it, you will drink the whole bottle.
	If you're by yourself, probably not, but you might.
	But if you're with somebody else and you're talking, and Armagnac and cognac tend to make you talkative without being belligerent.
	Belligerent products are more like scotch, scotch, Scotch can make you belligerent.
	Just a question.
	Does this also have a romantic effect?
	Or can this be used to get a chick?
	The romantic effect of Armagnac and Cognac I think is there, but I think it's because of the alcohol being so pure.
	And I'm not sure that there's any magic to it.
	There might be.
	There was for me.
	It won't hurt.
	That's right.
	It won't hurt.
	Anyway, so I'm just warning people.
	So if you get this stuff in, you better sit down and prepare yourself for a long conversation and plowing through the bottle.
	Yeah.
	And then you won't get sick.
	The joke of it is you don't get sick the next day because these products from France are so well made.
	Pure.
	Yeah, pure.
	Yeah, you don't feel sick at all.
	No hangover.
	No, because you don't have to.
	The hangover tends to come from two things.
	Dehydration, so people should drink a lot of water where you go to bed.
	Yes.
	And the real problem, the one that gives you the nasty, nasty headaches.
	Yeah, it's the Red Bull.
	The Red Bull would do it.
	But the nasty headaches and alcohols come from what's called fusel oil.
	And fusel oil is a product of distillation that is not the pure cut of ethanol.
	You've got butyl alcohols and propyl alcohols and all kinds of crazy alcohols that get into the product.
	And your body cannot digest these things very well and you get sick.
	Period.
	My buddy Jack, he also gets them from, someone sends them to him from London with his name on the label.
	Yeah.
	It's like $1,500 or something.
	It's crazy expensive.
	That's pretty expensive.
	Yeah, it's up there.
	You can get the same quality.
	Well, it's...
	I'm telling you, I drank a Gucci bag.
	Show off.
	It's total show off material.
	I drank a Gucci bag last night.
	Woo!
	Yeah, that's what you did.
	Okay, let's thank our folks who are the associate executive producer.
	Of course, I just screwed this up.
	Yeah, because we need to do the people from 952 first.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	No, we can do them.
	It doesn't matter.
	All right.
	I'm going to do them from 950.
	You have control of the aircraft.
	Michael Hoxberg in Helsinki, Finland, is our leader.
	He came with $1,000.
	This is a memory of my father, Jack.
	I'll play anything from The Seed Man.
	I have a clip right here.
	And some moving karma because I'm moving to a new city and starting a new life.
	I would like to be known as the Knight of the Final Frontier.
	Yes.
	So I assume he's on the night list.
	I'm seeing that he doesn't have a color.
	So let me just double check.
	Interesting.
	He's not even on our list.
	What is up with that?
	Michael Hochberg.
	I'm going to put him on right now.
	Hochberg.
	And he becomes the Knight of the Final Frontier?
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Time to talk to the back office, man.
	I'll send him a note.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good.
	We got him on the list.
	And he wanted...
	Anonymous.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	He needs his car.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah.
	And he wants his...
	AJ call-out.
	Yeah.
	I got you.
	These are pigs.
	These are pigs.
	You've got karma.
	Fixed.
	Anonymous, $333.33 from Hoboken, New Jersey.
	You know who you are.
	He comes in with a check every so often that comes through the system, through the banking system.
	James Brogdon, $288.12 celebrating John and Mimi's wedding anniversary.
	The $288.12 donation to the agenda.
	Happy 29th.
	And for no agenda list, there's 28812 off the purchase price of any Labradoodle puppy from BrogdonRoadFarm.com.
	Also request an F-cancer for a friend in Toronto.
	So we can do the F-cancer, but I want to remove it.
	So Brogdon, B-R-O-G-D-O-N Road Farm, all one word,.com.
	And you can get a discounted Now, I know the Labradoodle is like the dog of the day.
	So I guess that James or somebody breeds him.
	Or he has a connection or something.
	And I'm assuming they sell for a grand or more.
	So that's probably a pretty good deal.
	Anyway, he needs a cancer for a friend in Toronto.
	Bunch of blind guys fiddling up the elephant's lady parts.
	Every conclusion is different because the beast is always unique.
	But thank you for your contribution to the small but hopefully growing pool of sane people.
	All right.
	This is very, very enigmatic Sandra Langston.
	Let me just make sure she's on the birthday list.
	Yeah, okay, good.
	All right, nice.
	And finally, we have another executive producer, David Roberts.
	He says, if you can't wake up, Maxine will kill you in your sleep.
	We need more babies and critical thinkers.
	Eh, whatever happens, it will be okay.
	Mac and cheese.
	That's what he wants.
	I'm millennials!
	Stay woke!
	I'm sorry, I didn't realize he wanted mac and cheese.
	It's fine.
	No, I got it.
	I got a minute.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	And the Charma.
	And the what?
	Karma, of course.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Duh.
	So sorry.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Karma.
	Karma-yuck.
	Oh, nice.
	That's our group of well-wishers, executive and associate executive producers for show 953 as we head to show 955.
	I want to thank them all for helping out on the show.
	And sorry about the ones that were delayed, but it worked out for Sandra Langston.
	Yes, because she wanted it that way.
	The enigmatic Sandra Langston.
	Yes.
	Now, do you want to do the other people here on the 952 show?
	Just do them, get them out of the way?
	Are you going to insert them on the fly?
	What's the deal?
	I was going to insert them on the second call-out thing.
	Oh, that's right.
	We don't do that now.
	Duh.
	I'm sorry.
	Carmen Yak.
	Carmen Yak.
	That's totally what's going on here.
	Yes, thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers for your contribution and for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
	This is our value for value model.
	It really does work, even though this was a non-scrolling show.
	Yes, not scrolling.
	As in the spreadsheet didn't have to scroll.
	We appreciate it.
	And we appreciate you thinking about us for the upcoming program, which will be on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. We need that spreadsheet to scroll, everybody.
	So go out there and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, Slade.
	Shut up, Slade.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	You okay?
	You hit your head again?
	Damn it.
	By chance.
	The part didn't go on that late last night.
	I caught Al Gore on Bill Maher, and he was also doing the rounds on the morning shows, you know, the cable shows.
	And I found this interview to be very enlightening.
	For a number of reasons.
	Yes, very enlightening.
	He is, of course, the high priestess of the climate crisis.
	Make no mistake, it's now the climate crisis.
	And something else came to me as I was thinking, I was watching this.
	This is the opening.
	Did you see it by any chance, John?
	I missed it.
	Ah, well, you missed a good one, but you don't have to watch it because I've condensed the opening 10-minute interview down to four doable clips.
	And he obviously has his movie, An Inconvenient Truth, out.
	An Inconvenient Sequel, I should say.
	Yeah.
	And he has a book to go along with it.
	I mean, it's really quite a nice little marketing...
	He knows what he's doing.
	He knows what he's doing.
	He's got his other role as G5. In more ways than one.
	But he also reinforces everything these social justice warriors need to hear.
	He's very, very good at it.
	He is the high priestess.
	And let's listen to clip one.
	Well, it's past 10 years.
	Your first movie came out in 2006.
	Similar kind of predictions.
	Are we kidding ourselves about the tipping point?
	Are we...
	Now, this was interesting to me.
	This was the first question.
	And I guarantee you that this was agreed to, set up, maybe even the wording was agreed to, because that is the number one criticism.
	And they'll discuss three.
	The number one criticism of climate change, now the climate crisis, is, well, you promised us all these tipping points and we're all going to be dead within 10 years.
	And so that was all supposed to happen.
	Okay, then stop.
	I'm 100% on this because there's lots of evidence that Gore is using old shill tricks in all the shows that he does.
	He'll bring somebody on.
	I think you spotted one of them where he had an audience and some kid asked a question.
	The kid was set up.
	He was put in the audience for the purpose of doing these questions.
	There's no doubt, now that you mention it, That this was Mar's first question, and it was planned.
	Yes, completely planned, planted, and obviously gore.
	And he's masterful at moving very slowly, but then accelerating, moving away from the question.
	How come we were all supposed to be dead?
	And he will confuse you and use old-school tricks, and you will explain them to us, no doubt.
	Well, it's past 10 years.
	Hmm.
	Your first movie came out in 2006.
	Similar kind of predictions.
	Are we kidding ourselves about the tipping point?
	Are we moving the tipping point?
	Well, people mean different things by the phrase.
	The most important meaning is, have we crossed a point of no return where this thing spins out of control?
	And the scientists still tell us, no, we have not gotten to that point.
	What?
	Have you heard this?
	No.
	All I've heard is that the point of no return is tomorrow.
	Exactly.
	So that's the first switch there.
	No, no.
	As long as the scientists say it, it's okay.
	You know, Al Gore has weekly meetings, maybe daily with the scientists.
	The scientists say, don't worry about it.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	We can still avoid the most catastrophic consequences if we start acting boldly now.
	And we have begun to start.
	But some tipping points have unfortunately been passed.
	I'll give you an example.
	A very large part of the West Antarctic ice sheet just years ago, they said, okay, That's crossed the tipping point.
	It is now going to be gone no matter what we do.
	And that actually hit me pretty hard when that news came out because it...
	And we're already gone.
	Now we're already done with the tipping points.
	We've already moved on to the next disaster in the crisis, which is this sheet of ice in the Antarctic.
	I thought there was more ice than ever in the Antarctic.
	Well, yeah, maybe, but still...
	There's a sheet there.
	It's going to raise the tides for all that three feet.
	And here we go.
	And that actually hit me pretty hard when that news came out because it does mean that there's going to be considerable sea level rise no matter what we do.
	But we still have the ability to control the pace of that disappearance and sea level rise.
	Buy now while stocks last.
	We still have the ability to stop other ice sheets behind it from crossing.
	Now, there's some other tipping points that are kind of uncertain.
	We're taking huge, dangerous risks now that we should not be taking.
	So, when the sea levels rise...
	That sounds like a biblical prophecy.
	So, when the sea levels rise, you better build yourself an ark, Bill Maher.
	He says it with such a surety.
	Yes.
	No, it's religion, John.
	This is fucking religion.
	Here we go.
	Listen to this again.
	It's behind it from crossing.
	Now, there's some other tipping points that are kind of uncertain.
	We're taking huge, dangerous risks now that we should not be taking.
	So, when the sea levels rise...
	I can't get enough of that.
	When the sea levels rise, may I be with you in your mansion, Al Gore?
	Obviously, we could lose, like, Venice.
	We could lose...
	Oh, by the way.
	Hold on.
	By the way.
	As a part of the setup, this whole thing with this first question, there was a written joke.
	The payload built right into it.
	And I have to say, these two gentlemen executed the joke beautifully.
	Is it coming?
	Right now.
	Like Venice.
	We could lose Florida.
	And who would know better about losing Florida?
	That's it.
	Come on.
	That was well executed.
	They knew that was good.
	That was very good.
	Actually, I think I carried Florida.
	That's right.
	There are a lot of coastal cities that are gonna face a real danger.
	I went to Miami to make it to this movie.
	I saw fish from the ocean swimming in the streets just because it was high tide.
	I have to mention this little tidbit.
	We do have a lot of people that listen to our show that They tolerate our skepticism about global crisis.
	Climate crisis.
	Whatever it is.
	Climate crisis.
	They tolerate it.
	They still listen to the show for the other reasons.
	But I'm surprised they still listen.
	And every once in a while, so some guy tweets me.
	He says, I was...
	And he's moaning and groaning.
	He says, we got a big storm coming in and we're flooding everywhere.
	And he goes on.
	And so I'm thinking, really?
	Really?
	And so I went and looked up live cams in Miami.
	And there's a Miami beach, which is right there on the water.
	Did you meet any interesting women when you did that search?
	No, it was live, like the city cams.
	Oh, city cams, okay.
	There weren't any live chick cams.
	Anyway, but I found a really good one on top of some bank somewhere, and it's got a shot of the water, a shot of the busy street on Miami Beach.
	That one, if you've ever been to Miami Beach, there's like a loop around thing where the Clevelander Hotel is and all this, and you drive up and there's all these crazy old hotels.
	And it was a beautiful shot.
	And I said, really?
	Flooding in the streets?
	And I linked to the cam.
	And it was live cam, so it streams on Twitter.
	And that was the end of that conversation.
	Well, this is like, there's so much nonsense.
	But we know about the streets of Miami is because of the drainage.
	You know, they have trees they've never had there before.
	The water can't go away.
	You get the feeling, why is there even a, is there a hunger crisis?
	Because I would recommend people go to Miami.
	It's got good weather and there's free fish.
	On the streets.
	In the streets.
	But listen.
	Ocean fish.
	But it gets better.
	Because listen to what Gore says, and he contradicts himself right after the fish comment.
	He contradicts the entire premise.
	So I'm going to back it up a little bit.
	I'm sorry my backups are a little broad today.
	Cities that are going to face a real danger.
	And I went to Miami to make this movie.
	I saw fish from the ocean swimming in the streets just because it was high tide.
	And by the way, this week they had more than six inches of rain in two hours and it flooded again for a different reason.
	He caught himself.
	Oops!
	So, is it flooding because of the sea level rise, Al Gore, or is it because the drainage sucks because the same thing happens when it rains?
	He caught himself.
	This is completely stupid.
	Listen.
	Again, for a different reason connected to the climate crisis.
	Oh, but it's connected to the climate crisis because rain.
	Yeah, rain.
	Fuck this guy.
	I'm sorry.
	If it wasn't for the climate crisis, there'd be no rain.
	And notice he says climate crisis.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	He's on it.
	This guy knows how to make money.
	He's making a lot more money than we are in this podcast.
	Why do you have to go rub it in?
	Add more than six inches of rain in two hours, and it flooded again for a different reason connected to the climate crisis.
	Norfolk, Virginia, the largest naval base in the world, is going to have to be moved because of sea level rise.
	I don't know if that's true, but we have enough military personnel who will tell us.
	I don't know what the plans are to move Norfolk.
	Yeah, but listen to this.
	Listen to this.
	The world is going to have to be moved because of sea level rise.
	Galveston, you can go down the list.
	Galveston, Texas.
	You know, the site of one of the worst hurricanes or tornadoes in Texas ever.
	Or was it a hurricane off the coast?
	It was a hurricane.
	It was a hurricane, yeah.
	And it happened again.
	And this is inclement weather that hits Galveston, Texas.
	There are monuments all across Galveston of the Great Flood.
	But they're going to move Galveston.
	Is that what he said?
	Yeah, they're moving the base.
	Not Galveston.
	They're moving the base.
	Well, yeah, because it's in a hurricane path.
	The big danger is for poor people in places like Bangladesh and Kolkata.
	Oh, here we go.
	There we go.
	It's all about those people.
	And he'll come back to it.
	Okay, now we go to clip number two, where we're going to talk about the three things that the Republicans always carp about and harp on regarding climate change and why they're wrong!
	Then again, watch for Tricky Al.
	And, you know, when you talk to Republicans about this, they seem to have a couple of talking points that they always go to.
	One of them is, why should we do anything?
	Because China isn't.
	Another one of them is, it's going to cost jobs.
	It's bad for the economy.
	And the other one is, the science isn't really settled.
	All these are bogus.
	Are they not?
	Yeah, they are.
	Bogus!
	Bogus.
	Let's go one by one.
	John, China isn't doing anything.
	True or false?
	More or less true, but not completely.
	Well, what are they doing then?
	I mean, they're backing off a little bit, but not because of climate change, because of the smog they're creating for themselves, and the public is getting sick of it.
	China is implementing a cap-and-trade program right now, closing hundreds of coal-burning plants, building more solar farms than anybody else.
	That's not cap-and-trade.
	I don't believe the cap-and-trade.
	I think he's lying about that.
	I need to look into it.
	Who are they capping and trading with?
	Yeah, exactly.
	They're not capping.
	You're right.
	They're closing down the coal plants because of the pollution.
	Yeah, if they were located in some other spot, just so it was polluting Korea, they'd be fine with that.
	But then...
	North Korea, specifically.
	But then...
	Nobody else, by far.
	India, by the way, has done a U-turn since the Paris Agreement, and they're moving swiftly.
	You personally negotiated that with me.
	Well, there are a lot of people.
	A lot of people, yeah.
	Now, this is under dispute.
	But what happens in the movie, I have not seen it, is that he shills with SolarCity, you know, the Musk, the Empire, to basically give the deal of giving everybody else.
	We'll give you this huge free mega battery if you let us open a plant or some crap like that.
	And it's a Kleiner Perkins investment where Gore is a senior partner.
	So stop.
	Oh, okay.
	So stop already.
	He did a deal.
	Yeah.
	But it's been disputed.
	People like, even the Indians like, but I don't go to nothing.
	Kind of like that.
	But the solar part of it, right?
	Yeah.
	I was happy to be asked to...
	He's cagey about it now, too.
	...by Christiana Figueres and the other leaders of that conference, and I like to think it did some good.
	But India just announced that within only 13 years, 100% of all their new cars and trucks are going to have to be electric vehicles.
	That's more than we're doing on the transportation side.
	That's all about control.
	Now, as for jobs, solar jobs are now growing 17 times faster than other jobs in the economy.
	The single fastest growing job is wind turbine technician.
	Because they're breaking all the time.
	The fastest hiring job is fixing these things.
	Turbine technician.
	Let me back it up a little more.
	The best.
	You've got to ISO that.
	That's a good ISO. Not for today, but I will ISO it, yes.
	The fastest growing job is wind turbine technician.
	The real bright spot for creating jobs in higher wages is in renewable energy and the sustainability solutions.
	We ought to be investing in that to put more people to work.
	Oh, yes.
	Solutions.
	Solutions, I tell you.
	All right, let's move on to the Paris Accord.
	This was a very entertaining segment, both from the former vice president as well as our host.
	Trump wants to pull out of the Paris Accord.
	Something which, you know, I always say, the kind of people who would negotiate the Paris Accord, these are the people who should get the medals.
	Because it just cannot be easy.
	They deserve a medal.
	They deserve a medal.
	A douchebag medal?
	What kind of medal are they talking about?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Let's just give them all a medal.
	Just for participating.
	Yeah.
	It's really fantastic.
	To get 190 countries or whatever it is.
	Same with Kyoto, which you were very involved in in the 90s.
	Mind you, it's really easy for these hundreds of countries to come together.
	Did he say hundreds?
	I hope he didn't say hundreds.
	Let me just listen to that.
	Whatever it is.
	Same with Kyoto.
	Back a little more.
	Let's listen to that.
	People should get the medals.
	Because it just cannot be easy to get 190 countries or whatever it is.
	Same with Kyoto.
	190 countries is quite a lot.
	It's not hard, because all you're doing is saying, hello, 189 countries, would you like some money?
	Well, here's the last of the 190, and they're going to give that to you.
	Wasn't that hard?
	They don't deserve a medal.
	We're very involved in the 90s on the same page.
	This is tedious work that people should get a clap on the back for.
	Okay, he wants to pull out.
	Clap on the back.
	We thought maybe when we went to Trump Tower and talked to Ivanka about it, she...
	You did.
	Yes, I did.
	And I talked to the then president-elect, and that conversation continued after he went into the White House.
	And I thought actually there was a chance he might come to his senses, but I was wrong.
	Then, when he made his speech pulling out of Paris, I really was concerned that some other countries might use that as an excuse to pull out themselves.
	But the very next day, the entire rest of the world redoubled their commitment to the Paris Agreement.
	They almost had a...
	No kidding!
	Hey!
	We won the money!
	Almost had a salutary effect.
	It did.
	You know, in politics, there's a law that comes out of physics that sometimes works for every action.
	There's an equal and opposite reaction.
	And it happened here in this country.
	Pay attention to that.
	Pay attention to what he's saying here.
	This is very important.
	There's a law that comes out of physics that sometimes works for every action.
	There's an equal and opposite reaction.
	And it happened here in this country.
	Jerry Brown in California, Andrew Cuomo in New York, other governors, mayors, business leaders stepped up to fill the gap and said, we're going to meet the commitments under the Paris Agreement, regardless of what Donald Trump does.
	Looks like the country is going to do that.
	I'm all for states' rights.
	Now he's all for states' rights.
	When did this happen?
	Collects it.
	That's when it happened.
	Now, it hit me.
	Maybe I'm crazy.
	I don't know.
	But then they went into the final bit.
	Which was about politics and about elections and big confirmation bias, or just confirmation in general, what a lot of people are feeling in the United States these days.
	Let me ask you about this.
	You say, and I think you're absolutely right about this, that we have to, if we're going to fix climate, we have to fix our democracy.
	Yeah.
	I love this.
	We're a republic, Bill Maher.
	We're not a democracy.
	I don't know if he means it differently, but it disturbs me when people do that.
	It's very bothersome that people keep calling us a democracy.
	Yeah, because we're not.
	We are a democratic republic.
	The left always says that.
	We're all a democracy, democracy, democracy.
	A republic is a huge difference.
	Yes.
	And it's not a minor difference.
	It's a huge difference.
	Would you explain it for a moment?
	Yeah, democracy is where everybody has an equal vote, and everything is voted on.
	And the drawbacks to a democracy are that you can have a tyranny of the majority.
	So you have 51% of people all want everyone to walk around naked, and by law you have to, and if you don't want to, too bad.
	I'm all for this democracy thing.
	This sounds great.
	Well, they could also require you to wear lead weights, you know, on your nuts.
	Would you like it, Dan?
	Yeah.
	Once a week, maybe?
	And so, we don't have that.
	We have a representative democracy in the form of a republic, and the republic divides up powers and waters them down to an extreme, so you don't have this tyranny issue that keeps cropping up with democracies and monarchies, for that matter.
	It really exists somewhere in between.
	And the great thing about it is, to me, and I keep saying this to people, they've never worked in government, they don't realize how important it is.
	I think if you have a do-nothing Congress or a do-nothing president or a do-nothing agency, that's the best thing you can have.
	Because you actually don't want them doing anything.
	The idea is to encourage do-nothing-ism.
	Because you get into trouble.
	When you start to do stuff, I'm always reminded of the...
	Well, I have plenty of stories about it.
	I remember the time I was an inspector at the Trailmobile facility.
	I think I've told this story.
	No, Trailmobile?
	What is a Trailmobile?
	Trailmobiles, they made trailers.
	And this was in the early days of the cargo container.
	I would have remembered if you knew about trailers.
	This is a new story.
	New screed.
	Good news.
	So I am an inspector, I'm a line inspector, and I have a certain responsibility at a certain part of the line.
	I'm not the final inspector, there's another guy further on, but I inspect these things as they come through.
	And most of the time I spent with this one guy that was on the, he was actually on a different line than I worked on, but he was a riveter.
	And he was a great tale teller.
	He was a guy that would tell jokes.
	He had little magic tricks.
	I just love this guy because he was funny.
	Is he dead?
	And so I would spend time over there yakking with him.
	And the foreman over there was just an obnoxious jerk.
	Comes over.
	And he also is the foreman of the workers on the line I was inspecting.
	But he was the foreman of this particular guy.
	And he says, and he chews us out for wasting time.
	And he says, I shouldn't be over.
	He wasn't my supervisor, so he couldn't really do much.
	He just kind of chewed out his guy.
	But he basically kicked me out of the area.
	And so I said to myself, and I think this happens in government work a lot.
	I know for a fact because I've worked in it.
	So I go back to my line.
	And there was an anomaly on the trailers that were going through.
	They were made out of fiberglass and they were done for Pacific something lines.
	Pacific and Orient.
	And they were all fiberglass and the roofs of the fiberglass always sagged.
	The roof sagged.
	And so you could reject each and every one of them.
	And then there was all these other little things.
	And one of the things, you had this piece of red tape, and you'd red tape, put red tape all over the thing where it needed fixing if you were inspecting it.
	And so I would, this guy's stuff would come through from his line, and I would just red tape the hell out of it.
	And it was all legit.
	It wasn't like I, these were not, it was flawless.
	These were legitimate complaints.
	And so I would spend all my time red tape.
	So this thing would look like a, it looked like it was a ball of tape.
	There's so much to do on these things.
	And that's because I was doing my job to an extreme.
	The guy, this foreman guy, eventually came because it was slowing down production.
	And he was getting blamed!
	So he comes over and begs me to stop.
	He knows what I'm doing.
	And he apologized for kicking me away from that other character I like to chat with.
	Really?
	Yeah, he was a hat in hand.
	Thank you for a lesson in all children's futures.
	Yes, you should always know if you have the power, use it.
	And so I backed off a little bit.
	And I backed off enough so the damn things could get done.
	And that was that.
	And that's the way it worked.
	Curiously, I learned two things in that job.
	The other one, since we're telling stories, I'll tell this one too.
	I had these P&O trailers had this sagging roof problem.
	I hate a sagging roof.
	It was like off by a half inch.
	And the roof, the spec.
	So I luckily, I caught this early and I sent a note in about this.
	I said it takes too much work to get these things to spec.
	And it did.
	It took forever to get these things to spec.
	It was a long story how it happened, but you could do it, but it would take an hour.
	And so I wrote this memo in, a memo, about what should be done, because I can't reject every one of them.
	And I went in, and the memo never was responded to.
	About two months later, the final inspector finally got wind of these roofs that were gone.
	They're sagging.
	And I got called to the carpet for, why aren't you doing something about these roofs?
	They're sagging.
	And I said, I sent a memo in two months earlier about this and nobody said anything.
	They looked into it.
	The memo was sent in.
	Cover your ass memo.
	I learned early.
	I was good to go.
	Excellent.
	Yeah.
	Hey, good story.
	This was new to me.
	Trailmobile.
	Right.
	Trailmobile.
	So back to democracy, which we are not.
	We are a republic, and that is, yes, the distribution of the power in a proper way for our situation, certainly.
	And this comes up in regards to, you got it, the Electoral College.
	Let me ask you about this.
	You say, and I think you're absolutely right about this, that we have to, if we're going to fix climate, we have to fix our democracy first.
	Now, when you won slash lost the election, you got 500,000 more votes.
	Now, listen very carefully what's happening here.
	...than the guy who took over.
	Hillary got 3 million more votes.
	This trend is not going in the right direction.
	This thing where we get the most votes and they get to be president, that's a pattern now.
	And it's not going in the right direction.
	Now this is really interesting.
	The way I view this, and I'm thinking this whole thing is all scripted at this point.
	We have some evidence that certainly in previous bits here.
	This is Al Gore leading up to a run.
	He's now being compared to Hillary Clinton.
	He won-lost.
	He won-lost.
	He carried it.
	He's winning.
	All this is bullshit.
	Here's the proof that it happened to you.
	Pay attention.
	And it's not going in the right direction.
	How do we stop that?
	Well, I do think it's time to get rid of the Electoral College.
	But going back That's a constitutional amendment that Well, that's one way to do it.
	There's also an initiative to have a compact among the states.
	It started here in California.
	It could work.
	But even more importantly than that, we have to get big money out of politics.
	The obvious fat cat contributors hacked our democracy before Putin hacked our democracy.
	And we need to defend it and put the people back in control.
	And we can do that.
	Now what does every politician...
	Wait, no.
	I want to say something.
	Every politician, before he gets ready to run, always talks about comprehensive campaign finance reform.
	Alright, go.
	Does he know that Hillary outspent Trump 4-1 or something along those lines?
	She's over a billion dollars.
	Yeah, but remember, he said, sometimes in politics it works.
	For every action we have an equal and opposite reaction.
	Gore is very smart, John.
	Well, if he thinks he's going to become the president.
	I think he is toying with that idea, for sure.
	I'm sure.
	I hope he is.
	I hope he is.
	I hope he and Maxine Waters are both toying with this.
	Oh my God, you read my mind.
	You read my mind.
	You have the clips?
	It's out there.
	Why do you think...
	This is, I think it's CNN, with Democratic strategist Robert Petillo.
	Joking or not?
	Why do you think or do you agree with the fact that Democrats seem to have decided that it is much better to resist Trump than it is to try to do what you were talking about and work together and have some type of compromise?
	Well, I think when Trump was elected, he decided to try to court the Republican establishment.
	That's why he started bringing Reince Priebus into the Oval Office, the appointment of Jess Sessions.
	He tried to become the establishment Republican.
	Now that he's seen that that's not working, Democrats looking at a president hovering around 30 percent approval ratings have no reason to run into a burning building and try to put it out instead of just waiting to 2018 when we'll have Speaker of the House Maxine Waters and...
	Senate leader Chuck Schumer, and then they'll be able to control the government that way.
	As long as Trump is hovering around 30% approval ratings and Republicans appear to be in chaos, there's no reason to reach across the line.
	A joke?
	Or serious?
	I'm giving you a borderline clip of the day for that one.
	That's a beauty.
	And I'm hearing, you know, think about it.
	Hey, Maxine, we've got a Bernie effect with her.
	The young kids, the millennials, they stay woke.
	They love her.
	We can get her on.
	We can get her on the ticket.
	I think that may not be as far-fetched as we'd like to hope.
	She was, of course, on The View.
	Oh, I have The View clips, too.
	Okay, you got View clips?
	I got the two view clips where she's got the Putin thing, but if yours is longer, I would rather play yours because mine are short.
	I only have the Putin and I have the setup.
	They gave her a joke.
	They wrote her a joke.
	What was the joke?
	Vice President Pence is already planning his inauguration.
	I'm sorry, that's the wrong one.
	No, the joke is this one.
	This is a joke.
	There have been rumors that you might run for president in 2020, I'm hearing here and there.
	Is there any truth?
	Do you want to make an announcement here today for everyone here?
	That's simply a rumor, everybody.
	I am not running for anything except the impeachment of Trump.
	And she delivers the line like she's happy she delivered it.
	You know, like, I'm not running.
	She managed to get it out.
	Well, I have that kind of attached to the one where she goes off the deep end.
	Yeah.
	But we'll play this.
	Okay.
	Do you think Pence will be better than Trump if he were impeached?
	No, and when we finish with Trump, we have to go and get Putin.
	That's right.
	He's next.
	Putin or Pence?
	Pence, you mean?
	Pence!
	We'll get two for one, Trump and Putin.
	Oh, I love how Joy is trying to cover, like, I'm going to help my guest because she's obviously a moron, but I'm going to, oh yeah, we get two for one.
	I got you, Maxine.
	People at home will never know that you're a douche.
	Do you think Pence will be better than Trump if he were impeached?
	No, and when we finish with Trump, we have to go and get Putin.
	He's next.
	Putin or Pence?
	Pence.
	By the way, he's next.
	He's next.
	Not next, he's next.
	Just so you know, next.
	We'll get two for one with Trump and Putin.
	Then we gotta go after Pence.
	I am not running for anything except the impeachment of Trump.
	Actually, I think...
	Hold on one second.
	I want you to comment on it.
	I think on my clip, there's a piece I didn't play.
	It's a twofer.
	It's a threefer, I believe, because, you know, the joke is written this way.
	You could talk more about joke structure, but it's the setup.
	Then, you know, then she has to say, I'm not running for anything.
	Then everyone claps and then, except for the impeachment of Donald Trump.
	And I think she had to kick her.
	There have been rumors that you might run for president in 2020.
	I'm hearing here and there.
	Is there any truth?
	You want to make an announcement here today for everyone here?
	That's simply a rumor, everybody.
	I am not running for anything except the impeachment of Trump.
	Lock him up!
	Oh, lock him up.
	That's what it means.
	How do you follow that?
	Yeah, how do you follow that?
	Well, what I was going to comment on was the outrageous cheer from the audience.
	It went absolutely nuts when she wanted to impeach Trump.
	This is really anti-American at this point, I have to say.
	Defending Trump.
	I mean, Trump is a bonehead.
	But at this point, it's just anti-American.
	Joy Behar is sitting there screaming, lock him up.
	Yeah, and then she's, you lock him up, yeah.
	Well, she's insane.
	I mean, this whole group is nuts, especially when we get Maxine Water in the mix.
	You got really a, holy mackerel.
	It's really good.
	Hard to take.
	No, I kind of dig it, man.
	Well, and it's causing a problem in California.
	Uh-oh.
	Because we had the Californians, you know, a bunch of just owned largely because, you know, there may be voter fraud, it turns out.
	Ah, okay.
	But let's play this little clip, though, that's something that you in Austin, when you're there, might be concerned about.
	This is Democrats driving out Republicans to Texas.
	If you are a conservative living in California and tired of the liberal ways in your home state, you might have a way out.
	A company called Conservative Move, launched in May, aims to help families from all over America relocate to Texas, a state known for its traditional values.
	It's already been pledged with inquiries, most of them from Californians.
	And founder Paul Chabot says the Golden State just isn't what it used to be.
	Today, California is completely different.
	It's a mess.
	They have some of the worst schools in the country, their roadways are falling apart, and property crime and violent crime is on the rise, and good-paying jobs are hard to find.
	So we've only been around now for a little over a month, and the business has just exploded.
	Over 2,500 families have signed up.
	Over 1,500 of those are from California alone.
	The demand is very high.
	The problem in America is that the liberal elite, these coastal Democrats, these limousine liberals, if you will, live along the coastal region of New York to San Francisco to L.A., and they control now the Democrat Party in America.
	And the Democrat Party is no longer made up of moderates.
	They are made up of very radical extremists who are pushing a dangerous agenda in America.
	And they harm our communities, they increase crime, and they make it more difficult for families to earn a living.
	The Democrats of 20 years ago in America, they don't exist in America anymore.
	Hey, was this RT? Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Who else would do that story?
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Well, yay.
	That's why we put them in Steiner Ranch because there's a big fence around it.
	Keep them in.
	The thing is to keep people out, but it's to keep them in.
	I have a boots on the ground report regarding another of your favorite stories that keeps coming to you.
	The Ford Explorer carbon monoxide story.
	Speaking of Austin.
	I have one too, but yeah, the boots on the ground story.
	Why don't you read that and then we'll play this clip.
	Okay.
	So this is from producer Chris, John Adam.
	Dude named Ben here grew up in Auburn and have family in the Auburn Police Department, APD, not to be confused with Austin's APD. Just got back from dinner and I have a report.
	According...
	We now go to Chris, who has a report.
	Yes, Adam and John!
	According to my source, the fire department tested CO2 on several Ford Explorers, and the results were enough to take them off the road.
	It was mentioned they were tested while idling with the windows up.
	My JCD kicked in, which is apparently an affliction people have, and my argument was...
	Since I was a kid, I've been told you do not sit in a car with the windows up and the engine running.
	I didn't go further, as I obviously irritated her with my comment.
	After more discussion, I found out there's a new piece of equipment that's being installed on these vehicles.
	This piece of equipment gets mounted on the floor.
	It's probably a police state mandated box.
	In other words, everyone gets one.
	Well, the epoxy they use to plug the holes after the box installation has been found to be the root cause of exhaust leaking into the cabin.
	I thought they maybe punctured the exhaust, but she said no.
	The vapor coming in through this defective mishandled epoxy is enough to spike CO2 readings.
	Important note, Ford does not do the aftermarket outfitting of lights and special equipment.
	Aftermarket shops buzz, hack, and drill the crap out of these vehicles to get the equipment installed.
	I don't know how factual, just giving a boots-on-the-ground report.
	That's exactly how all network news reports should end.
	I don't know how factual this is, just giving you a boots-on-the-ground report.
	Stay woke, everybody.
	That's exactly how they should end.
	Stay woke, everybody.
	Now, he mentions they drilled some holes in the bottom, and maybe it's leaking through there because the epoxy is not filling the holes, which is a possibility.
	But...
	Still, there has to be some CO2 or CO going up those holes, which means it's got to be coming out.
	I think that they've come up with it.
	They've discovered this.
	And I'll tell you some things as to why they're not doing anything about it, because I think this is a bigger deal than they want to admit to.
	This is the Ford on exhaust leaks.
	Thank you very much, Tony.
	Ford Motor Company says it takes seriously concerns raised by police departments across the country about excessive carbon monoxide levels in their Ford Explorers.
	Several officers have been sickened.
	Ford responded to our CBS News investigation, saying when the data indicates a safety recall is needed, we move quickly.
	For more now, here's Chris Van Cleve.
	Police departments are finding cracks like this one in the exhaust manifolds of their Ford Explorers so frequently, CBS News has learned Ford is now actively considering a recall of some or all 135,000 police edition Explorers.
	Those manifolds carry exhaust, which contains carbon monoxide, away from the engine.
	Is that the crack right there?
	Yeah, this is the crack.
	Mechanics from Montgomery County, Maryland, say as many as 80% of county explorers have the cracks.
	David Dice is their director of general services.
	When you see that black scarring right there, that's a clear indication that there's exhaust leaking into the engine compartment from that part.
	That's dangerous.
	Police departments in at least 25 states have raised concerns about possible carbon monoxide leaks or added CO detectors.
	In Massachusetts, the Association of Police Chiefs says at least 16 departments have sidelined explorers.
	But federal investigators are looking beyond just police units to more than 1.3 million explorers model years 2011 to 2017.
	Montgomery County says the manifold cracks are not limited to police cruisers.
	Of the 108 vehicles that we have Ford Explorers, about 80, 85 of them are police.
	The rest are administrative fleet.
	It's the same problem.
	Ford says safety is its top priority, adding its engineers have not found evidence that the manifold cracks are linked to the carbon monoxide complaints, but they are investigating.
	The company has not made a final decision on a potential recall.
	Rena?
	Holy shit.
	Did I hear the guy say that it's not just police additions?
	I think, here's what I think, based on kind of logic.
	Exhaust manifolds are not cheap.
	They cost a couple hundred bucks, and to replace them on thousands of vehicles, I mean, they just cost, I mean, that's just the price of the part.
	They're a pain in the ass to put on and off.
	If they're cracked, That means they're buying defective manifolds from someone.
	I'm guessing China, India, China, something like that.
	And John, how about not just Ford Explorers?
	I would assume that they're having an issue with their manifolds in general.
	Because if somebody actually examines it and finds that 80% of the cars have a cracked manifold, this is not good.
	And that is where the gas is coming from.
	And then our boots on the ground guy says there's a bunch of holes they're drilling in the floorboard to mount stuff.
	And it can seep through.
	I can see that.
	But even so, even if it didn't have the holes.
	Yeah, the root cause is the manifold crack.
	Explain to people what the manifold is and where it is and how it works.
	The engine has a bunch of ports, exit ports for the exhaust gases, and the manifold is a device that bolts onto the engine and moves that gas toward the tailpipes.
	What does it look like, a manifold?
	You can look them up.
	Exhaust manifolds.
	They're big cast iron Homely looking things.
	They're not attractive.
	They're not pretty.
	They're not attractive.
	I agree.
	I don't think so.
	I fell out of love with my manifold.
	I mean, if you see one on a dragster or something where they use these very expensive ones that are just designed to even out the pressures, yeah, they're gorgeous, but these are just junky looking things.
	And they're usually cast iron, generally speaking, and it's cracked.
	This reminds me of the cracks on the bridge over here that the Chinese use Chinese steel.
	I think Ford's got a big hit.
	It's not going to be cheap to fix these things.
	You know what that means?
	Short the Ford.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	So we do have a few people to thank him.
	Let's start by thanking the ones from the last show.
	Starting with Lon Baker, $100.
	Matthew Lomar in Elwood, Illinois, $100.
	He wants a down payment.
	That's a down payment for his dedouching.
	We keep him sane during his work day.
	Well, if he donated, he's already entitled to a dedouching.
	He believes he should donate more, so we'll let him stew in his own juices.
	Baroness Monica in Drayton Valley, Alberta, 95-10.
	Harshad Patel in UK, 95.
	Dude named Mohamed?
	Yes.
	51-50.
	He sent us a note.
	He was very concerned, so we got it.
	Dude named Mohamed.
	Thank you.
	Dude named Mohamed.
	Steve in Oak Grove, Missouri, 51-33.
	Tyler Schimpf in Bothell.
	Schimpf.
	Schimpf.
	In Bothell, Washington, $50.
	And Matthew Comstock in Wolcott, Connecticut, another $50.
	And so that should clean up the mess.
	The backlog.
	And so let's go to another list of today's donors, last week's donors.
	And it's a short list, starting with Jim Burlingame in Bergen, New York.
	$150, $155.05, and this is his wife's birthday.
	I think we have that, the donations for her.
	I've been working on Ignitehood for about two years now.
	I was looking forward to it, to Counting Below, while thinking, I don't know, did he make it?
	No, read on, read on.
	Okay.
	While thinking about it, the name would change, and joining the roundtable, it suddenly occurred to me that a loving husband who has successfully hit his wife in the mouth would remember the old adage, ladies first, Wouldn't he?
	So, at the risk of being called out as a sexist for perpetrating the tyranny of the patriarchy, I have decided to do the proper thing and put my wife first, securing the title of dame for our household since this is a surprise for her.
	Hello.
	It's a surprise.
	I couldn't ask what name she wants, so I feel like I'm picking a paint color without consulting her.
	Always a mistake for men.
	Yes.
	I choose for her Dame of the Traveling Bassets.
	Oh, I bestow that upon her.
	Yes, very nice.
	I sense there's basset hounds involved.
	Please include slot machines and Canadian music at the round table.
	Jingles, Maxine Waters.
	Keep on rolling.
	Maxine, my millennials, stay woke.
	And Maxine, scumbags.
	You guys are a fan of Maxine.
	And new business venture, Karma.
	Thanks, guys.
	Keep doing fantastic work.
	Jim Burlingame, once again, a lowly serpent, now under the protection of Dame of the Traveling Bassets.
	I'd like to call out my brother-in-law, Andy, as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Hey, Andy, I'm back with the money now, so it's a race to the roundtable.
	Anyway, thank you.
	I think we should do these jingles for them.
	My millennials stay woke, and what is the other one?
	All the Maxine ones.
	He's got those stay woke, scumbag, keep on rolling.
	Scumbag, scumbag, that's the one I didn't get.
	Okay, scumbags.
	Okay, we can do that real quick.
	And he's doing this, he's handing her the lady's first damehood, and he's doing it with a twirl.
	Maxine Waters, keep on trolling.
	California Seals, won't you keep on whining with me?
	Scumbags!
	Millennials, stay woke!
	This is a bunch of scumbags.
	Alright, Anna, karma for you and we're good to go.
	You've got karma.
	Onward with Elizabeth Borazan, $123.45.
	Then Patricia Smitinski.
	Smitinski.
	Yes.
	Oh, happiest 27th.
	Oh, to the best husband ever.
	Yeah, and I guess her husband is the best husband ever.
	I hope he has a mug.
	That just put me in second place.
	Where are you?
	I'm down in eighth.
	Jan Ursa.
	Jan Ursa.
	I think.
	Ursa in Berlin.
	Deutschland.
	And he's got a little note for us to read.
	Jim Burlingame in Bergen, New York, which sounds like the same guy above him.
	Yeah.
	The other Jim Burlingame.
	Lance Forrest in Newport, North Carolina, 99-99.
	Ellen Murray.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	He becomes a knight today?
	Or Sir Lancelot?
	I think he becomes...
	You have a note.
	I think you have a note, John.
	Oops.
	Yeah.
	I have to read...
	Oh, wait a minute.
	No, maybe not.
	Lance.
	Yeah, Lance Force.
	Yes.
	I got the note.
	Yeah, it's the right one.
	All right.
	I have to read this.
	All right.
	Prep it.
	This donation puts me over the top for knighthood.
	Accounting is below.
	I would like to be known as Sir Lancelot of the Crystal Coast.
	I've given up on the M5M and their hidden agendas.
	They are nothing more than mouthpieces for their handlers.
	I am grateful no agenda is around to provide an unbiased voice in a sea of propaganda.
	Keep up the good work.
	Yeah.
	And since he became a knight, he's been a very dedicated donor looking at his list here when he sent in money.
	He would like to, if you would do, resist we much.
	Oh, you can do it at the end.
	Resist we much.
	Anything from Maxine Waters.
	I think we've done plenty of those.
	Two to the head and a little go.
	Yay.
	Semper Fi.
	Lance in Newport, North Carolina.
	Resist we much.
	And a yay and a Maxine Waters.
	I'll do it at the end.
	Two to the head.
	Yeah, I'll do it at the end.
	Just continue.
	I'll do it at the end.
	All right.
	You'll be getting that.
	Onward.
	The Jim Jerza, Jim Burlingame, Eugene Lance.
	Okay.
	Ellen Murray, $97.
	Gareth Kuchinskas?
	Another one of these names with a C. K-U-C-H-I-N-K-A-S. Kuchinskas.
	Yeah, I think that's right.
	Sir Richard Moffitt, our buddy.
	Oh, Kachinska's was 9510.
	And our buddy Richard Moffitt, Sir Richard, 8888 from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	Then we have a couple of well-wishers for the anniversary.
	This is your 29th?
	29th.
	29th wedding anniversary.
	8888.
	Which I guess Moffat, maybe that was what he was doing there.
	Yeah, probably.
	Jordan Walton, 8817 in Austin, Texas.
	Robert Wood, 8817.
	Parts Unknown.
	Sir Gray of the Isle of Wight in Covington, Louisiana, 8817.
	Josh Mandel, same thing, Greenville, South Carolina.
	Sir Josh, sorry.
	Kaylin Nistor, 8817.
	Alan Quar in Piedmont, South Carolina.
	Needs a de-douching.
	I think we can do that.
	You've been de-douched.
	And Mark Milliman.
	And I want to mention right after this segment, I'm going to go right into...
	Sir Mark Milliman.
	Yes, Sir Mark.
	I'm sorry, Sir Mark.
	Mike.
	Mark.
	Mark.
	We have the meetup.
	We forgot to talk about it on the last show.
	This is the last show before the meetup, so I want to make sure we talk about the meetup.
	You want to do it right now?
	No, I'm going to finish this.
	Dangerous.
	Okay.
	I know.
	I just wrote it down.
	It doesn't help.
	It turns out.
	Mark Luna, 69-69.
	John Hamilton in Carlsbad, California, 69-61.
	Jessica Miller in Nashville, Tennessee, 60.
	Barron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California, 56-78.
	Stephen M. Taylor in DeSoto, Texas, 55-10.
	Jared Zafeman, 54.
	Michael Gates, 52-80.
	And the following few people are $50 donors, starting with Michael Matthew...
	Sorry.
	Matthew...
	Robert Schauer in Eagan, Minnesota.
	Robert Drakeson in Oshkosh-Bagosh, Wisconsin.
	Robert Bruckner in Gilbert, Arizona.
	Matthew Januszewski in Chicago.
	And last but not least, our buddy Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City 50.
	We want to thank all these folks for helping produce show 953.
	Yes.
	Nice.
	I always like the anniversary donations.
	Those are always nice.
	Yeah.
	Then it's appreciated since we do not take any money of the...
	We don't even get a sliver of the $5.4 billion that the pharmaceutical industry spends on media.
	Not a sliver.
	Not even a flake.
	Not even an eyelash, I tell you.
	But we continue to plow through it.
	We're powering through it.
	Thanks to you.
	Nada.
	And we have another show coming up on Thursday.
	Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. A couple of jingles as requested.
	But resist, we must, we must, and we will much about that be committed.
	Yay!
	Maxine, step away from the crackpot.
	Those days are over.
	They called you out on Fox tonight.
	Maxine, step away from the crackpot.
	She's a gift.
	A gift that keeps on giving.
	You've got karma.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so much.
	Very short list today, but we say happy birthday to Sandra Langston, who turned 60 yesterday, no, two days ago, August 4th.
	Congratulations.
	And Jim Burnham says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Amy.
	She is celebrating today happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Happy birthday, yeah!
	Alrighty, so we have one dame, who is ladies first dame, and we've got two knights, so I did bring my blade through TSA, if you can...
	I already got mine.
	I got the long one.
	Oh, he's got a long one.
	Michael Hochberg, Amy Burlingame, and Lance Forrest, please all step up here on the podium.
	Excellent lecture, and thank you all, and congratulations.
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	Meetup.
	Woo!
	Nailed it.
	Meetup.
	Meetup!
	So you were going to pass it over.
	I was.
	I already forgot.
	So we're going to have a meet-up at the Sacramento Train Museum on August 12th, which is next Saturday.
	Yes.
	And it will be...
	I'm taking the Zephyr, which is a 9.15, or a 9.10, right?
	9.05, maybe.
	It leaves around 9 o'clock from Emeryville and gets to Sacramento around 11.
	And so we're going to meet up at the Train Museum, and then there is, I believe, a 1 o'clock...
	Reservation for a private car on a little train.
	It's a 45 minute train ride that takes place at the train museum.
	It'll be like first come first serve for the first 20 people if we have that many.
	Patrick Coble is donating that to the show.
	Sir Patrick out of Murfreesboro with a This is really confusing.
	It'll be on a Dvorak.org slash meetup.
	Yeah, you know.
	Dvorak.org.
	Yeah, I need to talk to you about that because that URL just does not work.
	I've tried slash meetup, slash meetup.
	I haven't put it up yet.
	Oh.
	I haven't put it up yet.
	Can I also mention one other thing?
	You need to update your Apache.
	You're pretty out of date.
	Okay.
	So anyway, Dvorak.org slash meetup.
	And that'll be up tomorrow probably.
	Just to remind people.
	But I'll just go over it.
	Train museum.
	Be there on Saturday, and we'll find each other.
	That's even better.
	At 2 o'clock, the Fat City Saloon in Old Town Sacramento.
	And the train museum is like a two-minute walk from the train station.
	Makes sense.
	To get out of the train.
	Makes sense.
	Yes, it does make sense.
	Funny how that works.
	There's some tracks.
	Yeah.
	So you walk out and you take a right and then there's a train museum.
	And then the train museum, if you turn around, you're looking at old Sacramento.
	This is an old town, which is like in perfect condition.
	It's beautiful.
	And it's about a four square block, a little part of...
	Sacramento, all these old buildings.
	And there's a saloon called Fat City.
	That's where we're going to be.
	Dynamite.
	Well, that's good.
	I'm glad you're going to do this meetup.
	It's been a while since you've done one.
	I know.
	I know.
	I'm a laggard.
	And Mimi and everybody but Buzzkill Jr.
	No, he'll be there.
	Everybody will be there.
	Buzzkill Jr., Jay will be there.
	It's a family event.
	Only Eric DeShills.
	The only one who's not going to be there.
	How about the newbie?
	Oh yes, we'll bring the baby.
	What's his name again?
	Theodore.
	Oh yeah, Theodore.
	Or Teddy T or whatever they like to call nicknames.
	Theodore.
	Poor kid.
	Hey, that's great, Mo.
	And you'll be taking pictures, no doubt.
	And what can people bring?
	Oh yeah.
	Hoodies?
	Anything special?
	Just cash?
	If you're going to bring a donation, which a lot of people like to do, I want to remind you how to do this properly.
	You put the donation in the envelope with the note with your name and whatever you want to tell us.
	It makes a big difference in crediting you properly.
	Fat City Bar and Cafe, I'm giving you that.
	Yelp's got a thing on a review of it.
	It's huge.
	I wish I could be there.
	But I'm also like, this is your deal.
	This is great.
	This is completely you.
	It's all you.
	You have to do one next.
	You've never done one in Austin.
	Yes, we have.
	I've done one in Austin years ago.
	In fact, I did a meet-up in Austin.
	That's why I moved to Austin after I witnessed Austin.
	Like, okay, this is good.
	Oh, you haven't done a meet-up in Austin since you moved to Austin?
	Yeah.
	I think you're right.
	It's different.
	Okay, after you do the Austin one, then I'll do a San Francisco Bay Area one.
	Okay.
	You and the homeless.
	One of our Dutch producers brought something to my attention.
	It's a clip that is not worth playing because it's in Dutch, even though it's subtitled so you can find it in the show notes.
	That Saudi Aramco is going public.
	They've announced they want to go public.
	Saudi Aramco, is it not the biggest company in the world?
	Well, it's definitely a big company.
	The valuation is pegged at a trillion dollars, based upon the preliminary pricing people are talking about.
	I think they want to sell off 10%, so $100 billion will go to the market.
	The family itself, the royal family, believes that the company is worth $2 trillion.
	But there's been a kind of, I guess, like a reverse roadshow, or more interesting perhaps, a pitch from all the exchanges.
	And everybody's been trying to get this business.
	Everybody wants this IPO. Everybody wants it.
	Frankfurt, Amsterdam, of course.
	Good luck with that.
	Singapore, I believe.
	A couple other exchanges.
	Because this is big money you bring into the exchange.
	Big money you bring into that market itself.
	And now, all of a sudden, the Trump to Saudi Arabia trip makes extra sense.
	Because apparently it's going to be between New York and London.
	London is too shaky with Brexit.
	That's just not enough stability.
	Good move.
	So I think Trump went out there and said, boys, you've got to come to us.
	And that will be a substantial boon for whichever market they choose.
	And I think it'll be good for the United States, too.
	I mean, I don't know exactly how the knock-on effects, but you get a lot of money coming into our financial and accounting and legal industries, and it's just a lot of money.
	Then they need apprentices and people, and it just trickles down.
	Ooh!
	Oh, God, I said it.
	I had this clip, and I can't find it.
	I think I didn't produce it, but it was a very interesting clip where one of these stooges on one of these networks said that When they're discussing the clips about the WAPO story where they stole these transcripts and published them.
	And instead of saying, he said, he used the word seven transcripts and then he pulled back and he said something else instead of seven.
	So I think there's more transcripts coming out, so it's possible that It's possible that some meetings with Saudi Arabia may be revealed.
	Hmm.
	Off the top of my head.
	Okay.
	Well, that would be good.
	Maybe.
	I guess.
	It'll be good for us.
	It's always good for us.
	We don't lose.
	Let's see.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I was going to say, I have a couple of smaller clips, so if you've got some thematic thing that you can go into, it'd be better.
	Not really thematic, but I do have...
	Well, Trump hate.
	Is that thematic?
	Well, can I preface it with a very interesting clip by Peter Schiff?
	Peter Schiff was on Kaiser's show, and I did make a nine-minute clip.
	clip i don't have it but it's nine minutes of shift going off on on uh bitcoin and what a joke it is oh good we can talk about kaiser we can i don't have that clip ah Oh, that's too bad.
	I mean, I can cut it back, but I'll send it to you.
	Google wouldn't take it.
	Can I just say one thing about Bitcoin?
	Just briefly before we get into this.
	So, for a whole week...
	I'm watching.
	I want to see what happens.
	I'm interested.
	I got a couple of Bitcoin.
	I'm like, yeah, this will be fun.
	This will be great.
	You had a dog in the hunt.
	Well, I had a dog in the hunt.
	I'm trading back and forth.
	I'm like, click.
	Oh, I can make $2 here.
	Back four.
	Oh, we lost four.
	okay, up, we're good.
	And, uh, then we traveled to New York.
	Wait, stop.
	You're day trading Bitcoin?
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Wow.
	I'll smoke a cockroach.
	That is slightly below podcaster in status.
	Not really day trading.
	I'm just messing around.
	I'm interested in the ecosystem.
	This is not a trustworthy system.
	These are multiple exchanges with the same currency that have to synchronize.
	The whole thing is completely outrageous, but I'm very interested in watching.
	The point is, I've been watching this thing to see what'll happen for an entire week.
	We get on the plane, we fly, and I wake up at my typical 3 in the morning.
	I usually wake up and I'm like, what's going on?
	And I see things gone from 2,800 to 3,300.
	Missed the entire run and it hit the magic number.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	And I have two offers on deck for the Beanie Coin.
	The Beanie Coin being our own cryptocurrency.
	And I just want to give you some ideas and we don't have to talk about it now.
	But here's how I think it works.
	So we create this coin and of course we each have like a million coins.
	That's how it works.
	You get a million coins and whoever helps us get a million gets a million coins or whatever.
	Who cares?
	Ten million.
	It doesn't matter.
	A million is a nice number.
	Then we have to be listed on an exchange.
	So people with their Bitcoin who so desperately want to pay us.
	And we can peg this currency.
	We can say we'll just run it against the dollar momentarily, whatever, just to make it easy.
	Then we'll say, yeah, we'll take your donations.
	I'm Bitcoin, I'm BeanieCoin.
	So then you buy BeanieCoin with your Bitcoin and then you send us the BeanieCoin.
	Now, what's cool about this is you have to have an ecosystem.
	So you can exchange the beanie coin with other no-agenda producers.
	So now we have a little bit of a market, and then you get on the exchange and people start trading it.
	And before you know it, we retire with 100 million beanie coins!
	I think you've got something going on here.
	I gotta refine it.
	I gotta refine it.
	But there is a way to...
	And check it out.
	You can also...
	This is what's cool about it.
	You can also distribute the show through the Beanie Coin.
	Through the same blockchain.
	Blockchain distribution of the show?
	Yes.
	And check it out even better.
	Check it out.
	You're saying check it out a little bit too much.
	Okay.
	Pay attention.
	Listen up, yo.
	You can also then track people's donations.
	Because it's all in the ledger.
	It's all in the blockchain.
	And that's different than PayPal?
	Where we can track their donations.
	What point of 100 million Beanie Coins did you not understand?
	Hello!
	This is our ticket out.
	And people who support the show and hold on to Beanie Coins, they'll also be able to retire.
	This will be the first podcast where the host and the audience retire simultaneously.
	All right.
	I'm all in.
	phone rings Okay.
	I'm glad you're doing this.
	This could work.
	Yes, I'm telling you, this could work bigly, baby.
	So back to Peter Schiff.
	So he's on there.
	He's a notorious gold bug.
	And they're yakking about Bitcoin and crypto and all the rest.
	But then he asked Schiff about Trump.
	And I thought the answer that Schiff gave him, because Schiff was a Trump supporter, I thought was kind of spot on.
	What's your current take on the administration right now?
	Well, look, they're having a tough situation.
	Look what they inherited from Obama.
	But I think the big problem for Trump is that as soon as he won, he pretended everything was great.
	I liked him better as a candidate when everything was rigged, when the data was phony.
	The statistics aren't real.
	The unemployment rate is much higher.
	Don't believe the GDP. The stock market's a big, fat, ugly bubble.
	That's the Trump I voted for.
	The Trump I got.
	Everything is great.
	It's a bull market.
	The economy's great.
	And it's all because of me.
	So he's claimed ownership of this economy and this stock market.
	Right, it's about to go over the cliff, right?
	He's the fall guy now, right?
	So, I think he's bit off a lot more than he can chew.
	And, you know, I think things are going to go down.
	Look at the dollar.
	The dollar's now down 10%.
	He goes on.
	Yeah.
	I think he makes a good point.
	Trump is setting himself up to be the fall guy.
	Why?
	He doesn't...
	What do you mean, why?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Because he's taken credit for everything that's positive that's going on.
	Instead of still bitching and moaning like he used to do, oh, the market's bullcrap, it's rigged.
	Okay, I see what you're saying.
	Unemployment is not 4.3, it's 10 or whatever it really is.
	If you look at shadow stats, it's probably still around 20.
	Yeah.
	And all this sort of thing.
	Instead of keeping with the same commentary, he's changed and now says, I'm the guy.
	And he has.
	He brags about the market's up because of him.
	Yeah.
	That means when the market collapses, it'll be because of him.
	He's taken, he put himself, set himself up unknowingly as the fall guy.
	I think it's a mistake.
	I think.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That was my point.
	He's not doing it on purpose.
	He's just, he's not smart about it.
	Yeah, that's his ego.
	And that's what'll kill him.
	I mean, not literally, hopefully, but that's what'll do him in.
	His ego.
	That's been painfully obvious from day one when he appeared on the scene.
	That's his Achilles heel.
	Maybe General Kelly can beat that out of him before he gets in trouble.
	I don't think so.
	It's possible.
	But we're watching this little go between him and Mattis and Mattis Kelly and McMaster is the guy.
	McMaster is a real interesting case because he bothers me.
	I'm concerned about anybody who is described as having a legendary temper.
	Legendary temper to me always means the guy's bipolar.
	People with a legendary temper have a split personality.
	They go nuts.
	And it's usually because they're bipolar.
	And bipolar people who are also used to be known as manic depressive are people that have, when they're on their up thing, they have a ton of energy.
	They outwork you.
	You can't compete with them.
	It's impossible to...
	They don't sleep.
	Yeah, you run into the bipolar types that are much more successful than most people, even though they're down in the dumps or they're getting mad and start yelling.
	And McMaster, I didn't realize, the guy's what you used to call in academia is Obama FUD, which means he's got a master's degree, a master's degree.
	Yeah.
	And a PhD.
	Obama Fudd.
	Nice.
	Yeah, Obama Fudd.
	Fear, uncertainty, and doubt at the end.
	So he is a...
	He's got a PhD, right?
	And you look at his background and all the stuff he's done.
	This guy has got too much energy.
	He's got a legendary temper.
	This is the guy who's nuts.
	There's no doubt about it in my mind.
	And I'm sure he's a great guy to have a beer with.
	But I'm concerned about all these military guys taking over the presidency.
	The military is like a military coup.
	Like a coup, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, Trump is clearly listening to us.
	No agenda!
	Great.
	Well, here is the Trump update with lots of tidbits in it.
	I believe this is from ABC or NBC. Today in Moscow, former Ambassador Sergey Kislyak denied accusations Moscow meddled in the November election.
	Kislyak described conversations with Michael Flynn as, quote,"...just simple things with no secrets." He also denied sanctions were discussed.
	Errol Barnett has the latest.
	Mr.
	President, are you afraid to talk to the press?
	As President Trump began his 17-day working vacation, news emerged his administration has been contacted by the Special Counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election.
	Robert Mueller is now requesting documents connected to former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.
	The President's attorney, Ty Cobb, tells CBS News Mr.
	Trump is fully cooperating.
	Once in New Jersey, the president defended his current national security advisor amid criticism from the far right wing of his own party, saying in a statement, General McMaster and I are working very well together.
	I am grateful for the work he continues to do serving our country.
	I just need to ask a question.
	Why am I hearing yet again another British voice on an American newscast?
	What is this?
	Well, this is CBS Weekend Edition.
	Yeah, so?
	And I have no idea who this guy is.
	I've never heard him do a report before.
	But they keep doing that.
	Whenever it's to be taken seriously, they bring in a Brit and be like, oh, yeah, that sounds, yeah, yeah, that sounds right.
	I'm in total agreement with your complaint.
	Yeah.
	McMaster has been targeted by alt-right websites like Breitbart for, among other things, ousting NSA staff ideologically aligned with Chief Strategist Steve Bannon.
	In an interview taped Wednesday, McMaster says he's happy with the direction the White House is now heading.
	We've been trying to view problem sets and opportunities through the lens of our vital national interests.
	Attorney General Jeff Sessions also cites national interests in announcing a crackdown on government employees leaking classified information.
	We will not allow rogue anonymous sources with security clearances to sell out our country.
	Sessions said the Department of Justice has tripled its leak investigations and the FBI has established a new counterintelligence unit to address those disclosures.
	The department is also reviewing policies related to compelling journalists to testify about their sources.
	Now, the special counsel's request and the administration's efforts to stop leaks comes as President Trump is trying to steady the ship once again.
	A White House official tells us Chief of Staff John Kelly is with the president in Bedminster today.
	Meetings with lawmakers and administration officials are expected in the weeks ahead.
	Marina?
	Yeah, that's why they chose the Brit, is because it's about the freedom of the press.
	I don't know why they chose the break, to be honest with you.
	White House Satinas, yes.
	He has a bunch of little tidbits.
	I don't know who put the package together, but the visual they had.
	Trump, they talk about him going on his vacation, and they show him at the mouth at the top of the stairs of the 747 waving, as if he's taking his 747 to Bedford, New Jersey.
	We're here.
	And this whole New Jersey vacation is strange to me.
	I'll tell you what.
	I can tell you why it's connected to this story.
	It's connected to this story.
	Because he's trying to circumvent the freedom of the press.
	He's going to subpoena us.
	And then, wait a minute.
	He's not really on vacation.
	He's at a working White House.
	Then we need to be able to cover him.
	Otherwise, you're suppressing our First Amendment right.
	I follow this.
	This is what's going on.
	Okay, you're right.
	Because if you listen to that clip again at the very beginning, this is one of the tidbits.
	Let's listen.
	Today in Moscow, former ambassador...
	Hold it.
	I'll ring the bell when I'm at the point where you will have heard what you should have heard.
	Sergey Kislyak denied accusations Moscow meddled in the November election.
	Kislyak described conversations with Michael Flynn as, quote, just simple things with no secrets.
	He also denied sanctions were discussed.
	Errol Barnett has the latest.
	Mr.
	President, are you afraid to talk to the press?
	As President Trump began his 17-day working vacation, news emerged to his administration.
	Yes.
	Are you afraid to talk to the press?
	They're showing him walking on the green from his helicopter to wherever, and the press is cordoned off way away, and somebody yells, and they put this in the package.
	I don't know why.
	What was the point of this?
	Unless what your point is...
	Yep, yep, yep.
	I think you caught the gist of it.
	And so they show, you have the president walking, and then you hear in the background, Mr.
	President, are you afraid to talk to the press?
	Why is that in this package?
	Seriously.
	It's denigrating is what it is.
	It's denigrating and it's a cheap shot.
	The CBS is CBS. CIA broadcasting.
	CIA broadcasting system.
	It's a cheap shot and it's so obvious when you hear it, when you watch it and you see him running.
	It's the same thing with him standing at the top of the 747, flying on the 747 to Bedford, New Jersey, which I think is a short train ride.
	Yeah.
	So, this is a very slanted, as usual, package.
	Yeah, that's typical.
	I have two clips left that I want to play, but a little update.
	So, Tina, while we're doing the show, she's obviously not going to hang around here with me in the lovely Embassy Suites at Newark Airport.
	So she went to the MoMA, Museum of Modern Art.
	And she just sent me a picture, and she says, it's unbelievable.
	The people here...
	I have a picture of, I'm just going to say, a room full of Asian humans.
	I don't want to sound racist, but I don't know where they're from.
	It could be China.
	They don't look Japanese.
	It could be South Korea.
	It could be anywhere.
	I don't know.
	It could be Singapore.
	Probably China.
	I'm thinking China.
	There's just a million selfies, selfie sticks, and they're actually touching the frame of Starry Night by Van Gogh.
	Wow.
	That would be a picture to have, a picture of that.
	Yeah, you can't.
	Where's the security?
	You can't actually see that.
	She's got to try and nap.
	It's not in this photo she sent me.
	But that's, you know, it's crazy.
	And why, yeah, why is there not an alarm going off?
	Most museums allow, most public museums, the big ones, the small ones not so much, but the big ones for sure.
	They allow photography.
	So you can see no flash photography, but photography.
	But many of them ban the selfie stick and tripods.
	Because you don't want people waving these things around and poking a hole in a Van Gogh.
	But now, just from this vantage point where Tina took the picture, you see the starry night way in the background.
	You only see the top because there's all these people with their phones up in the air, reversed.
	They're not looking at the picture.
	No, they're looking into the selfie cam.
	Yeah.
	Death to you, I say.
	Fie, is what I say.
	What?
	Fie, F-I-E. Fie?
	Look it up.
	Fie.
	Is that like from Semper Fi?
	No, no, that's different.
	That's Fidelis.
	That's Semper Fidelis.
	FIE is different.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm stopping the show.
	FIE. Why?
	I want to know what FIE is.
	FIE. Used to express disgust or outrage.
	Wow, good word.
	So can I just say FIE? Yeah, you can just say FIE. Does this come from the French?
	Je m'en fous.
	No, this is a British, I think, Anglo-Saxon word, if I'm not mistaken.
	This is fantastic.
	And I've learned something on the show today.
	And let us learn something together from Anna Navarro, who is the quite man-hating, now confirmed, the political commentator for CNN. And this is about the immigration bill.
	And the hired punching bag, Jeffrey Lord.
	I mean, this guy has no respect.
	No self-respect.
	I guess this is his only gig.
	His gig is go on CNN, get beat up.
	It's like, hey, darling, I'm off to work, okay?
	I'm going to get beat up again by Anna Navarro.
	Here we go.
	In essence, resegregating the country.
	That's a bad thing.
	Anna, is this resegregating?
	No, Jeff, it must be so nice to be a white male.
	What does that have to do with Anna?
	Can you believe that shit?
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't mean to curse, but...
	For this to be said, it must be so nice to be a white male.
	It's racist.
	She's a racist pig.
	Yeah, if you turn around...
	There's a pig.
	Play the pig clip.
	What I would have said is I would have said it must be nice to be a brown female.
	I mean, it's a totally...
	No, what he should have said, it must be nice to be an on-air bitch.
	These are pigs!
	No, he's, you know, Jeff, it must be so nice to be a white male in America.
	What does that have to do with that?
	And I think you just completely missed the point of what makes us wonderful here in America is that I can go celebrate St.
	Patrick's Day and that you can celebrate Cinco de Mayo or you can celebrate the 15th of September and that does not define What's the 15th of September?
	I think that's the Mexican Independence Day.
	Oh, is it?
	Well, what's Cinco de Mayo, then?
	They can't have two.
	Cinco de Mayo is the day where I think Zapata or one of these guys, it was like where they beat back the French.
	But they can't have two celebrations where they get two Independence Days?
	We have two.
	We have Washington's birthday, we got July the 4th.
	That's not a...
	Okay, alright.
	President's Day, we got...
	Yeah, alright, I gotcha.
	Well, 15th of September, okay.
	And that you can celebrate Cinco de Mayo, or you can celebrate the 15th of September, and that does not define being American.
	Go to the Vietnam Wall, go to any of the memorials, go to Arlington, and take a look at all of the Polish, Italians, Hispanic names that you will see on those.
	They bled and they died for this country.
	But many of them are the children, or they themselves came here without speaking English and became American.
	That is still our system, Ana Navarro.
	You come here, you can't speak English, you're not an American, you can't get anything going, we put you in the military!
	Have you figured that out yet?
	So there is no such...
	You know what's beautiful about America?
	That there is not one single label of Americanism.
	Yes, there is.
	Yes, there is.
	What is our label of Americanism?
	What?
	Liberty!
	Liberty and justice for all.
	That's our label.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Did you not read the label when you came into the tin, Mr.
	Dvorak?
	It means loving your country.
	America means sacrificing for your country.
	No.
	America means putting your country first.
	No.
	It does not mean what language you came here speaking.
	No, it doesn't mean...
	This is so wrong.
	She's like, America means...
	No, no.
	It does not mean what language you came here speaking.
	It does not mean what holiday you celebrate.
	It means patriotism, love of country, and shared values.
	No, that was World War II Germany, is what that was, Anna Navarro.
	Shared values?
	What is shared values?
	John, please, consult the Book of Knowledge.
	Here's my question to you.
	What is he talking about?
	Why is she on the rampage against this guy?
	What did he do?
	No, it's his job.
	His job is to say, well, I think Trump is good.
	And then just everyone unloads on him.
	Like a big boccacke.
	It's crazy what they do to this guy.
	Now, I'll ignore what you just said, but is there more to that clip than her just moaning?
	Okay, keep playing that because I have a dimension B Clip about immigration.
	Do we need to take a trip in the machine?
	Yeah, I think maybe it'd be a good idea, but let's finish this clip first.
	And shared values.
	It has nothing to do with culture.
	Well, I more or less 100% agree with everything you've just said.
	I'm not disagreeing with that.
	My concern is that we have, with all this business of identifying communities, you know, this community, that community, etc., etc., etc., with all the emphasis on that, that it keeps people from assimilating into the larger American culture.
	Nobody does more identity politics than Donald Trump.
	The guy who came down, announced he was running for president and called Mexicans rapists.
	No, no.
	I just can't.
	I don't care what you call me.
	Call me an apologist, a supporter, whatever.
	But I never heard that.
	I heard the illegal aliens who were from Mexico saying, We're all rapists, which is not true.
	No, no.
	No, that's not true either.
	He said some of them.
	You're right, some of them.
	Some of them.
	He used the word some of them.
	Some of them.
	And talking about the illegal immigrants, he said some of them.
	But when you look at the history books, as Ana Navarro is reading from them now, because this is how it will be printed, he said Mexicans are rapists.
	And is Pooper jumping in and saying, hey, Ana, come on, that's not entirely true.
	I mean, that may be...
	Oh, yeah, I'm sure he did, didn't he?
	This is a good leading.
	We should have been in the machine.
	It's kind of dangerous to pull Dimension B over here.
	He was running for president and called Mexicans rapists.
	Nobody does more identity politics than the guy who called for the Muslim ban.
	It was not a Muslim ban.
	You can call it a Muslim ban, but it wasn't.
	I don't need to get into that.
	But okay, I'm just showing you the talking points and how history has changed.
	Nobody does more identity politics than the guy who tweets out against transgenders.
	So if you want there to be no identity politics, my request to you is to start by telling the president you support, regardless of what he does, to stop doing it himself.
	Okay, there you go.
	The machine?
	Yeah, let's get in.
	Okay, now be careful because this is my portable version.
	Are you ready?
	It's the one I take on the plane.
	All right, everybody.
	Get ready.
	It's going to be only.
	It's happening.
	America.
	We are heading towards America.
	Hold on to your heads.
	Here we go!
	We choose love for you.
	Hey, Sparky managed to make it.
	You know how it works, Sparks.
	Okay, so now here, so those talking points, I have not been, I'm going to go back to changing my rotation a little bit, and I'm going to start listening a little more to democracy now, because they're picking up on the left's talking points about things.
	It's borderline crazy, but...
	The immigration policy that was brought into or developed by the Trump team, I don't know who did it, seemed, you know, it didn't seem that different than what I was kind of taught as a kid.
	You want to bring people in who speak English and have some skills and they have some value that can add something to the country as a whole.
	How many more gardeners and housekeepers do we need?
	Well, the more rich people we create.
	Yeah, well, but it turns out this is terrible.
	This is horrible.
	And they have all these new talking points, and a lot of them, I think, are just, this is, to me, just insane.
	And here they go.
	Opposition is growing.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	You were going to, I just, I jumped the gun.
	No, you didn't.
	You hit it right on the money.
	Oh, I didn't know if that's what I was supposed to play first.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to edit that out because I was pretty tight.
	The Rays Act.
	or reforming American immigration for strong employment would create a so-called merit-based immigration system that would favor applicants who speak English, have advanced degrees, or can demonstrate job skills.
	Since President Trump and Republican senators introduced the proposal on Wednesday, many commentators have noted proposed policy would have likely blocked Trump's own grandfather, Friedrich Trump, from immigrating to the United States had it been in place in 1885.
	At the time of his arrival, Trump did not speak English, and his immigration record says he had no identifiable skill, or calling, as they called it.
	The great-grandparents of senior policy advisor Stephen Miller would have also likely been refused entry under the proposed plan, since they spoke only Yiddish.
	Kellyanne Conway's great-grandfather, too, would have likely been barred for speaking only Italian.
	Well, on Wednesday, CNN's Jim Acosta, who is the son of immigrants, press senior policy advisor Stephen Miller over President Trump's push to admit English-speaking only immigrants in a back-and-forth that lasted for several minutes.
	This is an excerpt.
	I mean, you really don't know that.
	He came to this country in 1962, right before the Cuban Missile Crisis, and obtained a green card.
	Yes.
	People who immigrate to this country should eventually...
	So Jim, that's your question, Jim.
	Jim, as they...
	Wow.
	Anyway, they just bickered.
	You couldn't understand a word.
	Wow, this Dimension B stuff is insane.
	You know, there's a little thing, a lie she told there.
	I've read this policy.
	This is not for English speakers only.
	You get a point in the merit-based system.
	Yeah.
	So that's not true.
	No, that's a lie.
	But then to go on about...
	Everyone's, yeah, ancestry DNA. Immigration policies in 1885.
	Are we supposed to go back and do all the stuff we did back in 1885?
	Would that be acceptable?
	Should we just go back and just kill all the laws that came ever since 1885?
	And in 1885, where they're trying to populate the country with as many people as we could, especially to sucker the Norwegians in particular to farm in these...
	God-forsaken wilderness of Minnesota and Wisconsin.
	I mean, they were just tricked into coming out.
	And all that sort of thing.
	That was a different era.
	That was over a hundred years ago.
	And then to say, well, a hundred years ago, this wouldn't have been the way.
	It's nonsense.
	This is a talking point.
	It's a talking point.
	Yeah.
	And they're going to keep doing it.
	Oh, Trump.
	Yeah, Trump.
	Trump wouldn't have gotten in.
	And it's reinforced by the entire No Nations, No Borders.
	I'm 30% Askenazi Jew by the Ancestry DNA and 23andMe.
	Yeah.
	This whole thing is a giant scheme.
	We're under attack.
	Very well executed to the naive.
	Damn that Soros.
	He's good.
	And by the way, there's a little...
	I thought there was some racism in there when they said...
	Because I had no idea.
	And I actually thought she was Irish.
	When she said Yiddish?
	No, Kellyanne Conway.
	Her...
	Back in the 1800s when her ancestors came over, they only spoke Italian.
	And what's the racism?
	I didn't know she was Italian.
	Well, what's the racism part?
	Why are they telling me this?
	I don't need to know that she's Italian.
	I... I had my own thoughts about Kellyanne.
	What kind of an Italian name is this?
	It's just, I think it's racist.
	I guess.
	I don't quite see it.
	I don't see how it's racist.
	It's racist.
	Okay, well done.
	Math is racist.
	Just remember that.
	Let's get out of this dimension.
	It's horrible.
	I agree.
	Are you ready?
	From this day forward, it's going to be only America first.
	If you feel nauseous, just look at the ground.
	Everything will return to normal in 15 seconds.
	Here we go!
	We choose the club.
	Fuck you!
	Ah, Sparky!
	Yeah.
	When Sparky's here, we know we've done a successful transition.
	I have a couple more if you want to go back and forth.
	Ten minute warning.
	Well, I'm done.
	But I do have a native ad.
	Yes, do a native ad.
	I'm done.
	I have a native ad on ABC. Or maybe it's not a native ad.
	Oh.
	But play this Powerball news item.
	That's a 16-year low.
	Economists say wages are not improving as quickly, but they are inching up hourly pay up 2.5% from just a year ago.
	But here's a way to boost your pay a little faster.
	The twin lottery jackpots up for grabs this weekend.
	Mega Millions in Powerball with huge prizes worth more than...
	That is good.
	I think that's just a transition.
	I mean, it's insulting.
	There's a way.
	No, but then they do...
	This is a one-minute ad.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Oh, jeez.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Here we go.
	That just led into it.
	I thought the transition is beautiful.
	More than $600 million combined.
	The Mega Millions drawing tonight with at least $323 million on the line.
	The Powerball tomorrow, $286 million.
	Here's ABC's Clayton Sandell.
	Oh, a package.
	This weekend, more than half a billion dollars is on the line.
	Yeah.
	The Powerball jackpot drawing tomorrow night growing to $286 million.
	Take the cash option and you're still pocketing a cool 178 mil.
	Tonight's Mega Millions drawing is even bigger, $323 million.
	Cash option, $199 million.
	Lottery officials tell us it's been more than a year since both jackpots were this big at the same time, but the amount's still nowhere near last year's $1.6 billion Powerball payout.
	One million is the same as 100 million, you know?
	You're winning something.
	And with these odds, you have to be an optimist.
	The chances of winning Powerball, one in 292 million, 201,338.
	It's slightly better for Mega Millions at one in 258 million.
	At David, we did the math, and the odds of winning both jackpots is one in 75 quadrillion.
	But there, of course, is always a chance.
	So the crew and I here have got our tickets.
	Tickets will be back on Monday to report on the results.
	Unless, of course, we're sitting on a tropical beach somewhere.
	Which we would understand.
	Clayton Sandell, thanks to you.
	Good luck, by the way.
	Yeah, of course this is a native ad, and I'll explain why.
	Because I've dealt with the lotteries, and I believe this is also state-run or multiple states getting to the Powerball.
	I'm not sure how it works.
	Yeah, they pay off the TV stations.
	The connection between lotteries, and this is very prevalent and very obvious with national lotteries like the one in the Netherlands, the postcode lottery, and they have the same in Scandinavian countries.
	And not only do they pay the media companies to do these types of packages, they often produce the packages for them.
	There's a production company that is also getting paid to do this.
	And they even often buy off the news guys.
	Like that guy, that's the tell for me.
	I got my tickets.
	He's in.
	That guy got paid.
	He got paid.
	Now, the thing that makes me think, well, we know it's a native ad.
	You can just tell.
	But one element in there which says to me absolutely is the fact that they, I believe that they advertise, I believe by law, that if they advertise any of these lotteries, They have to put the odds of winning into the advertisement.
	Oh, and they did.
	They did.
	And they did.
	Oh, perfect.
	Man, you've been on a roll with deconstructing the sleaze.
	Yes, indeed.
	Not a very funny clip, but worth mentioning.
	The U.S. Attorney General, meanwhile, is warning of a crackdown on marijuana-producing states.
	But our state attorney general says, not so fast.
	Jeff Sessions sent a letter to our state's top officials last month pointing out that Washington's rules on marijuana don't prevent a federal crackdown.
	He also questioned how effectively our state is controlling the industry.
	Attorney General Bob Ferguson says he was disappointed and that the letter relies on incomplete, inaccurate, and out-of-date information.
	Ferguson also says he's repeatedly invited Sessions to meet in person to discuss the issue, but he has not yet accepted.
	I don't like what Sessions is doing here.
	No, I don't either.
	I think he's a total douchebag for doing this.
	Douchebag.
	And I think that...
	I think that this idea of, oh, you're not regulating well, it doesn't make any difference.
	The states can say, well, it's legal, do what you want.
	They don't have to regulate it.
	I mean, they regulate it for their own tax purposes and for the benefits of the citizens of the state, that's for sure.
	But they don't have to follow any specific rules.
	Right.
	Sessions is full of crap.
	He's an old southern Alabama dummy when it comes to any of this stuff.
	He just knows the good old boys are getting whacked out on this stuff down there on the farm.
	And as far as he's concerned, it's a bad thing.
	Wacky backy.
	He probably doesn't like drinking either.
	Well, it annoys me.
	I don't like it.
	Get him out.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I don't like him for that.
	Just for that, for that alone, that's just a non-stop.
	I agree.
	I'm in total agreement that the guy should go.
	Just a final one, just because it's something we've been talking about for the entire duration of this program, starting over nine years ago, working on ten years.
	Whenever you see the magic number, we have to stop.
	The other number is 33.
	Oh, that's a low number.
	I don't know what that's for.
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	33.
	That's a low number.
	I don't know what it's for, but I would hate to have that number.
	33 is President Trump's approval rating.
	Oh, that's not good.
	How does that happen?
	That's like right in the solar flags.
	This is the new Quinnipiac University call.
	He's at 33.
	So he got to 33 after six months.
	That's because he's a great man.
	He can do things quickly.
	It has President Trump's approval rating at 33% among registered voters.
	It's chaos and incompetence and nothing getting done.
	and thus you have 33. 33.
	That's the magic number.
	It is.
	It's the magic number.
	Wow, huh?
	How about that?
	That is very strange discussion.
	Yes.
	Especially the way the globalist Mika Brzezinski was saying it.
	33?
	Yeah.
	Like, we got the message.
	We know it's code.
	You don't have to overdo it, Mika.
	Please.
	Alright, everybody.
	Thank you so much for tuning in to the program.
	We will return on Thursday with another episode of No Agenda, the No Agenda Show, best podcast in the universe.
	Please go out and hit someone in the mouth today.
	Let them know that we're around, that we exist.
	Yes, please.
	Yeah, and I'll be back at the Cluedio.
	We're flying back tomorrow.
	We'll go into the city, have a little dinner, and then we'll go.
	Sounds good.
	All right, so coming to you from lovely Newark Airport, the Embassy Suites, right next to the Garden State Outlet Mall.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	I'll see you in Sacramento.
	That's right.
	Until Thursday, everybody, as always, remember us at dvorak.org slash N-A.
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	I can do what I want.
	Which, by the way, is the way I believe most bicyclists are.
	But you get these bike paths.
	They're all over the place.
	Nobody's in the bike path.
	They're just going randomly on the wrong side of the road, up and down the sidewalks.
	Just annoyed with these bicyclists around here.
	There is a war between bicyclists and automobilists.
	It's a war, and it's really coming from the bike people.
	And I'm on a bike, I'm saving the world, I'm saving the earth, I'm healthy, get out of my way, I should be able to do what I want.
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	He's a showboat.
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	The FBI director has no credibility.
	He's the wrong man for that position.
	I think that Comey acted in an outrageous way, and I think it would not be a bad thing for the American people if he did stuff.
	You said that he had no credibility.
	I assume that you support the president's decision then to fire his FBI director.
	No, I do not.
	Comey.
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