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	Mueller!
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, July 27th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 9 and 5-0!
	This is No Agenda.
	Discovering new dimensions to test your amygdala.
	And coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet, the capital of the drone, Star State, downtown Austin, Tejas, in the Cluedio, in the morning...
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm holding a bottle of Beta-13-16D Glucan, 100 milligrams.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crack Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	All right, man.
	What's in the bottle?
	Tell us all about the bottle.
	It's Beta-13-16D Glucan.
	Oh, what is that for?
	It was on sale.
	I don't know what it's for.
	You're like, hey, it's on sale.
	I might as well get it.
	You're one of those people.
	It's at the Hell's Food store.
	Big pile of stuff on sale.
	And I saw this one.
	I said, what the hell is this?
	And it doesn't really tell you what it is, of course, because it'd probably be illegal to tell you what it is.
	And so I bought it.
	It was like five bucks.
	What is it supposed to do?
	What is its proclaimed effect?
	Well, it has a little, what does it say on here?
	It says, hold on a second.
	I just had a pair of glasses to read this.
	It's probably the same stuff that InfoWars sells, just in a different package.
	Oh, I wouldn't be surprised.
	All that stuff comes from the same package.
	Hold on a second, I'll tell you what it's for.
	At least the best that I can.
	It starts by, which says immune support, so it's got something to do with that.
	Supports and modulates immune support.
	Some protection.
	Stimulates macrophage activity.
	Oh, excellent.
	Yes, those macrophages, I really have to be kidding.
	I have a commercial later for Tech News that will blow your mind.
	What was that term?
	We've got to write that down.
	What was it?
	Macrophage activity?
	Macrophage?
	Yeah, phages.
	Phages are these crazy...
	Things that, like, they're like fleas for bacteria.
	They kill bacteria.
	So basically it's bleach is what you're saying.
	It's not bleach.
	Well, maybe, yeah, bleach.
	You never know.
	But anyway, it comes from some crazy stuff and it's got some mushroom stuff in it too.
	I don't know what it's supposed to be.
	You take one.
	Mushroom stuff.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	Very nice.
	Alright, I think we should start today with transgender news.
	Well, I have the, you know, I could have put together the long, long openings all the networks did.
	Everybody started their news with this.
	I actually grabbed ABC's piece as a backgrounder, which was long.
	Yeah, I want to hear that, but after you're done, I want you to play the background or I've collected from local media.
	Okay, we'll play this one, because there's a couple of interesting things in here.
	This gives people what the story is.
	They never listen to the news, so they want to hear what this news is.
	I was just about to launch into it.
	So in the middle of...
	All kinds of stuff going on, including a budget that was trying to be passed, or that is going to be passed.
	All of a sudden, the president tweets, tweets, love it, and there'll be no transgendered Americans in the military.
	Because of the cost and...
	What was the exact quote?
	It was the enormous cost.
	It was disrupting.
	Well, it came down to enormous cost.
	I think that was kind of the way he angled it.
	And it was very odd to see...
	A couple of things happen.
	One, people lost their shit, as usual.
	Interestingly...
	You don't hear much from the L's or the G's or the B's or even the Q's.
	And I love this because I can finally point out the fact that the LGBT community is bullshit.
	There's no lesbians and gays standing up for the transgendered.
	No one's saying that's an outrage!
	Uh-uh.
	Straight people are.
	Lots of straight people.
	Well, if you listen to the news, they are.
	Straight people, but not lesbians and gays.
	No, but if you listen to the news, the way they couch it, everybody's against this.
	And I want to point out a couple of little minor tidbits.
	One, this only went into allowing transgenders into the military.
	Only began in June 2016.
	I think it was July and it wasn't even implemented.
	They didn't even start it.
	No, that's part two of this.
	It was June.
	The only reason I say that is because I was just watching a clip of Dogface, the head of the Defense Department.
	Yeah.
	And it said underneath him, June 2016.
	Maybe it wasn't fully in play.
	But it wasn't implemented because Matt has kind of stalled on it.
	And the number of transgenders that are in the military already, between 15 and 50,000, they don't seem to know, I think just kind of snuck in one way or the other.
	Yeah.
	I just thought it was very interesting.
	On the face bags, everywhere I looked, and I went looking.
	I did not see lesbians, gays, bisexuals, or queers standing up and saying, this is an outrage for our community.
	Uh-uh.
	So let's just stop that once and for all.
	And when it's the gays' turn, trust me, the lesbians and the transgenders are not going to stand up for them.
	So can we just, for once and for all, stop with this bullcrap LGBTQ community?
	Because it's not a community, and the people who are LGBTQ should be outraged that they're lumped together like that all the time.
	Ugh.
	And let's have some equality.
	If transgendered people can't be in the military, neither can straight people.
	As a candidate, Donald Trump promised to protect gay, lesbian, and transgender rights.
	The first nominee ever to make such a promise...
	That's actually not what he said.
	That is not what he promised.
	Did you know that?
	Everyone's just spouting off about...
	They have played his clip a couple of times on some of the networks, and it was slightly different.
	Well, very different.
	In fact, you could view it, and I can already see people going, you could view it as if he's doing exactly what he promised.
	As a candidate, Donald Trump promised to protect gay, lesbian, and transgender rights.
	The first nominee ever to make such a promise at a Republican convention.
	As your president, I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ citizens from the violence and oppression of a hateful foreign ideology.
	That has nothing to do with LGBTQ rights.
	No, it's just talking about keeping the Muslims away.
	No, he's saying keeping them safe.
	And how do you keep people safe?
	Keeping them safe from?
	No, but he specifically, he doesn't specifically say anything, but I think he specifically was talking about the Muslims that are throwing people off the roofs.
	That's exactly what he's saying.
	Again, so listen again.
	A hateful foreign ideology.
	Believe me.
	Believe me.
	So you keep them safe by not putting them in the army.
	Well, that's a very...
	I'm just saying, you could view it that way.
	It was a nice twist.
	I like it.
	When I heard the clip, I'm like, he didn't promise to protect their rights.
	No, he promised to keep them safe from the Muslims.
	Actually, ISIS in particular.
	And here's a funny thing.
	By the way, Obama would do that, and everyone would be like, no, damn it, he got us again.
	Damn it.
	Okay, well, you're right.
	Now, Mimi was talking to me about this, and the first thing I said, I said, Since when, since this is just a liberal outrage, in fact, my clip includes Nancy Pelosi going completely out of control, since when are the liberals and the left, since when are they pro-military and pro-war that they give a crap about this?
	A week ago?
	Yeah.
	Now, what also was, and that got more to this report, obviously, also interesting was the number of transgendered people in our military currently, all over the map, really.
	But today, a sudden reversal.
	The president surprising even his own top advisors with a major change in military policy announced via Twitter.
	Please be advised, he declared, the United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. military.
	Our military cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruptions that transgender in the military would entail.
	Yeah, so that was his tweet, as far as I know, that's accurate.
	Yeah.
	So the cost, for sure.
	Disruptions, I guess.
	But overall, the military, which is a fighting machine, kills people, is not a social experiment.
	I'm okay.
	It's like, whatever you want to do.
	But you're right.
	It's like, oh, now everyone has to be in the military.
	We should have, you know, a 12-year-old should be able to get in.
	Anybody can get in the military.
	I mean, where do we draw the lines?
	Where do we draw them?
	Well...
	The Pentagon directed all questions to the White House, making it clear the change came from the president himself.
	See, what I heard is...
	This is the way it's being...
	So I don't know if you've seen this anywhere.
	I didn't get any clips or any reports about it that were usable for the show.
	The president wanted his border wall budget, or the money for it, within the budget that was in the House, I believe.
	And someone did a back-end deal.
	He said, okay, here's what we're going to do.
	You want that?
	Well, then you have to stop the transgendered in the military.
	And that's why it was kind of snuck in.
	And now the Pentagon is...
	I'm sure they were very aware of this.
	Like, oh, just ask the president.
	We're too chicken shit to say it ourselves.
	I think that's what happened.
	We will continue to work closely with the White House to address the new guidance provided by the Commander-in-Chief.
	But the White House couldn't provide answers to the most basic questions.
	Oh, they're so stupid!
	What happens to transgender service members now?
	Are they immediately thrown out of the military?
	That's something that the Department of Defense and the White House will have to work together as implementation takes place and is done so lawfully.
	A study commissioned last year by the...
	What network was this?
	This is ABC. They also do this crap.
	They couldn't answer the most basic question and then they asked a question and they answered it.
	Gave an answer and said, the answer is you have to talk to somebody else.
	No, actually, the answer was they're working on it.
	It's a basic question.
	It was a question, and it was answered.
	How is this not able to answer?
	First, they set this up as if they're going to ask a question, and that person goes, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Well, here's the bothersome thing, and it's coming up next, is how many transgendered military personnel there are currently.
	Bloomberg reported on some study.
	It's a study.
	It's actually crazy.
	Let me get this for you.
	The way they describe that.
	I mean, somewhere someone, I presume, has a list.
	Isn't there a list somewhere of how many men, women, and other are in the military?
	Someone's got to have a list.
	No?
	No?
	No.
	Well, here it is.
	Here's how Bloomberg, and I think you'll hear something similar, but the numbers are all over the place.
	I've heard 256, I've heard 15,000, 15,500, I've heard 12,000.
	I've heard 1,500, I've heard 2,500.
	No, 1,000.
	Here it is.
	This is Bloomberg.
	A 2014 study estimated that 15,500 trans people were currently serving in the U.S. military.
	And here's how they came up with the numbers.
	It's interesting.
	The Williams Institute, think tank of UCLA School of Law that researches gender identity, came to that figure using a 2011 survey of 6,546 transgender Americans.
	Around 20% of that survey's respondents said they had served in the armed forces.
	That would be around 1,300.
	There are currently 1.3 million active duty personnel in the U.S. military and an additional 800,000 in reserves.
	Using various extrapolations based on population estimates and rates of service for men and women, the Williams researchers concluded that 8,800 people were in active duty and another 6,700 were in the National Guard and U.S. Army Reserve.
	At trans people, the Williams report suggests might even join the military at a higher rate than other groups.
	This is exactly, almost identical, to the methodology you use to determine how many people listen to a podcast.
	Ha ha ha!
	Exactly.
	Pony up, advertisers.
	Lots of people.
	A study commissioned last year by the Pentagon estimates there are roughly 2,500 transgender service members on active duty.
	Now, how does it...
	So we have all these different numbers.
	I have 15,500, 256.
	This was what?
	How many did he say?
	He said 2,500.
	It's pretty obvious that nobody knows.
	Nobody knows.
	That's...
	One of them, Air Force Staff Sergeant Logan.
	Dead?
	Just showing the military might.
	You know, we always gotta slip in a couple of kabooms.
	Ireland, profiled in a New York Times documentary while he was serving in Afghanistan.
	There's not a lot of people that know that I'm transgender.
	It's very much on a need-to-know basis.
	Today, responding to the president, Staff Sergeant Ireland said, I would like to see them try to kick me out of my military.
	I would challenge them in court.
	You are not going to deny me my right to serve my country when I am fully qualified and able and willing to give my life.
	The new policy, and how it was announced, was quickly criticized by fellow Republicans in Congress.
	I want a strong, vibrant military, but I want to be fair.
	The best way to do this is to have a hearing, not a tweet.
	It's a lie.
	It's a lie what the guy just said.
	Listen.
	Listen, listen to what he says.
	Republicans in Congress.
	Hold on a second.
	Roll back a little more.
	Here we go.
	Lindsey Graham.
	The new policy and how it was announced was quickly criticized by fellow Republicans in Congress.
	Now tell me what the criticism is here.
	Another ABC trick, yeah.
	So he didn't criticize the policy, as was just said.
	He didn't criticize anything.
	Well, he criticized the delivery mechanism.
	He didn't criticize the actual policy.
	This is really disturbing.
	It's disturbing.
	CBS does this, ABC, all three of the networks pull this crap constantly.
	You're right, it's very disturbing.
	This is a big news organization, and they're just blatantly lying to you.
	And the president's most prominent transgender supporter, Caitlyn Jenner, retweeted Trump's own words from the campaign.
	Thank you to the LGBT community.
	I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs.
	Jenner is now asking, what happened to your promise to fight for them?
	Oh, man.
	Again, it goes back to the clip you had at the very beginning, which is the promise to keep them safe.
	Yes, safe.
	Your promise to fight for them.
	All right, so let's get to John Carl.
	Stop a second.
	Now, it seems to me that a news organization like this, which is just twisting and twisting the facts...
	Mm-hmm.
	You'd think they'd get a lot more attention because everybody else is doing exactly the same thing, especially CBS. And you'd think they would get a lot more attention by actually analyzing what they have in front of them and doing what you just did, which say, Trump never said that.
	Trump said this.
	You play the Trump clip.
	They did do that, but they never analyzed it.
	What is wrong with these guys?
	Well...
	I have some thoughts.
	I don't know if they're a part of it, but I have discovered a third dimension.
	Well, we'll talk about that in a moment, because I think there's a third dimension people are slipping in and out of.
	Maybe it has something to do with this, but this to me seems more like total dimension A. They hear Lindsey Graham say something, Are they deaf?
	No!
	They hear what they want to hear.
	This is really happening.
	It's disturbing that it's gone to this level of news, though.
	Happened to your promise to fight for them.
	All right, so let's get to John Carl live at the White House tonight.
	And, John, first you had the Pentagon today saying, if you have questions, ask the White House.
	Tonight you've now learned that the House and Senate Armed Services Committees did not know anything about this either?
	David, the move caught the leaders of those committees completely by surprise.
	The chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator John McCain, called the president's tweet unclear, and then he said this, there is no reason to force service members who are able to fight, train, and deploy to leave the military regardless of their gender identity.
	So again, I find it interesting that nowhere do I hear I don't see gays and lesbians organizing, making a big deal for their brothers and sisters of the T portion of their community.
	That to me is the thing that is most telling about all this.
	And the rest, fine.
	It is what it is.
	Let's listen to the local report.
	This is...
	Trans ban?
	Trans man local, I think it says.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Good evening, everyone.
	I'm Erin Clark.
	Dan Green is off tonight.
	We are beginning tonight with a major blow to the transgender community.
	Nice.
	Good one.
	Slip that one in.
	Like it.
	Very good, scriptwriter.
	Blow.
	Tonight.
	We are beginning tonight with a major blow to the transgender community.
	President Trump tweeting today, transgender individuals can no longer serve in the military.
	He says the military should focus on victories and should not be burdened with the medical costs and disruption of transgender service members.
	These four prominent Republican senators, including John McCain, are criticizing the move.
	Reaction from Democrats and the LGBT community goes swift.
	Oh, really?
	President Trump has chosen this day.
	This is Nancy Pelosi, the notorious lesbian?
	She apparently is the representative.
	Of the lesbian community.
	Yes, LGBT. Yeah.
	Well, maybe she is.
	Who knows?
	Maybe.
	You could be telling the truth.
	Today, President Trump has chosen this day...
	To commit an act of cowardice.
	It was a cowardly act.
	The way he did it and especially what he did.
	On this day to unleash a vile, hateful agenda that will blindside thousands of patriotic Americans already serving with honor and bravery.
	White House says the president arrived at the decision after talking with his generals and military staff.
	Pentagon told the Associated Press in June that roughly 250 service members have applied to change their gender in the military's personnel system.
	It's believed there are anywhere between 1,500 and 15,000 active duty transgender service members.
	And here locally, former Secretary of Defense Liam Panetta weighing in, as did the LGBT community in Santa Cruz.
	Now, here's a thing that caught my eye, besides Pelosi, was this 250 active duty members want to change their gender on the fly, which means I think the government has to pay for that, which I believe is part of the reason that this happened.
	That's exactly what the policy tweet was all about.
	It's too expensive and it's disruptive.
	Yeah, because that is kind of disruptive.
	And it is expensive.
	It's like, I don't know how much, but it's a lot.
	Tens of thousands of dollars.
	And I get the sense, I'm not sure completely how Trump works, but I get the sense one of the things with him is like this.
	A bunch of stuff comes up and he doesn't want to deal with it.
	And he says, okay, we'll just stop doing that.
	No more transgenders in the military.
	It's just easier.
	That ends all these questions.
	That's possible.
	Well, there's a lot of medical reasons, which that just makes the debate even worse, of course, when you say it's a medical reason.
	There's lots of medical reasons why you cannot even be in the military.
	If you've got stomach gastritis, if you have irritable bowel syndrome, obviously hepatitis, that would be a bad one.
	If you have anal fissure or persistent anal fistula.
	That sounds bad, by the way.
	Something you don't want.
	Dental issues.
	There's a lot of reasons why you're not admitted into the military.
	But they're making such a big stink.
	And Pelosi, again, another Democrat going on and on about military service.
	When I was a kid, when I was a Democrat.
	When you were a tranny.
	I was not a tranny, but I was a Democrat, which is similar.
	Oh, man.
	Sorry.
	You set me up with that.
	I apologize.
	We have a lot of Democratic listeners.
	But it was anti-military.
	Yeah.
	Anti-war, anti-military.
	It wasn't a question about it one way or the other.
	It was just, no, this is bad.
	We want a small military.
	We want to cut back We don't need all these bombs.
	We don't want to kill everybody.
	But no, that changed.
	Again, I would just like to see...
	Just give me the tea part of the LGBT community where they're outspoken and protesting.
	No one seems to really be bothered.
	I didn't give you the whole report, but there was a couple of gays at the end bitching.
	Gays or lesbians or transgendered or...
	There were lesbians and I think there was a trans...
	Alright, well...
	I have not seen any of that.
	Well, local reporting around here, there's plenty of that.
	It's not as if it does not exist.
	Everybody in San Francisco is part of the LGBTQ community.
	It's not fair.
	I'm just saying.
	And I hear transgender people saying, where is everybody?
	So you can't be silent on this issue.
	And what do they get?
	They're met with silence.
	Just while we're on this topic, or kind of on this topic, what the LGBT community did speak out about, very vocally on the tweeters and on the face bags, is Jared Kushner.
	When he came out and said, well, hey, you know, I'm sorry.
	I spoke to the committee.
	Didn't, you know, didn't collude with Russia.
	And if you hear Jared Kushner, well, here's the tweets.
	Gay is a tree full of chickadees!
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	I missed this because, of course, I'm not on the bag.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Everywhere.
	So now the face bag, the liberal face bag with all this, with his self-righteousness and his whole now attitude is calling Kushner out as gay?
	Yep.
	And the advocate actually wrote, it was an op-ed in The Advocate about how wrong this is.
	And the author says, the reason I knew these insults were coming and the reason they stung so deeply despite my strong personal distaste for Jared Kushner Is that they brought back painful childhood memories of being bullied and harassed relentlessly for having a lighter, higher voice that didn't neatly comport with our culture's rigid, arbitrary, and erroneous definitions of masculinity.
	I learned the meaning of the words sissy and faggot when they were thrown at me on the elementary school playground by classmates making fun of my voice.
	And he says himself, he says, this is crazy.
	Why are you doing this?
	Why are you doing exactly what you're accusing?
	Well, that's the Dutch proverb.
	You kind of notice Kushner's voice is in a higher octave.
	He's kind of a soprano.
	Well, no.
	The dude is completely creepy.
	He's not that bad.
	He's completely creepy to look at when he's talking.
	He looks like a plasticine figure.
	He's like, come on.
	I think he's creepy.
	I don't think I've seen him talk that much.
	No, this is the point.
	So when he finally came out and started to talk, then the LGBT community is, oh, he's so gay!
	Huh.
	He's one of ours.
	What do you think?
	Hearing his voice is a reminder that masculinity is dying.
	Jared Kushner sounds exactly like I expected him to sound.
	Super fucking gay!
	And these are from gays.
	And this is you reading from the Facebook?
	Yeah.
	I'm reading from this article that has some tweets in there.
	Yes.
	Some insulted Kushner's anatomy.
	Dude is a eunuch.
	Somebody fucked up that circumcision.
	That's actually a good twofer.
	I like that a lot.
	Because you get Jew stuff and you get to slam him for being a wimp.
	Good.
	Kushner is an important reminder that you can't buy puberty.
	Huh.
	After hearing Jared's voice, I understand why Ivanka was staring at Justin Trudeau with those hungry eyes.
	See, this is what they're angling at.
	There we go.
	This is a roundabout way of getting at her.
	She seems untouchable, but we'd love to just get, first of all, one, get rid of her.
	And quit falling all over yourselves because of Ivanka being so pretty.
	And then, of course, there's that old picture which I put in the newsletter a couple of rounds ago when I put all those photos in.
	A picture of her before her facelifts, I assume, and then a picture of her today.
	And she had a big kind of a honker.
	She didn't have really a lot of delicate features.
	Let's put it that way.
	Two more.
	Why Jared Kushner always seemed like he low-key looking at your dick from one urinal over.
	And as expected, he sounds as if he's months into hormone replacement therapy for forthcoming sexual reassignment surgery.
	Now, this is just the kind of stuff that goes on.
	Well, you know, everybody's a comedian on these social networks.
	Which brings me to dimension R. I've noticed this, and this has a little bit to do with some recent tweet stuff and some emails.
	It actually started with the guy who you blocked, who was a...
	We talked about it on the last show.
	Like, I can't believe you don't know how an air conditioner works.
	Did you follow that whole thing or did you block him on email?
	Here's what happened.
	I said I was going to block him.
	I didn't block him because I looked and his tweets seemed to be, you know, okay.
	I mean, generally speaking, he didn't seem like a lunatic.
	And so I didn't block him and then he came back with some insult.
	Right.
	You know, if you guys don't apologize, I forgot what it was, but I thought it was just a threat and an insult.
	Then I blocked him, so I have not heard from this guy since.
	Okay, so you didn't see the email thread?
	You blocked him?
	Because then he sent that long email.
	And then I jumped in and I said, you know, long story short, here's what I've recognized.
	So he wound up saying, hey man, I'm really sorry.
	I have this snarkiness to my character.
	It's a flaw.
	I'm working on it.
	Well, yeah, that was the only thing we pointed out from the beginning.
	Why the snark?
	And this is where I'm coming up with this odd dimension, which people move in and out of.
	I'm calling it dimension R for a number of reasons.
	Why for R? Oh, R because it's very prevalent on the Reddit, but also retarded and snark.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So, here's the number one thing that happens when someone is in Dimension R. And there was a guy who emailed me, and he was right off the bat, F you, screw you, you moron, you idiot.
	And he was saying that we were too stupid to know that the Patreon site was a joke.
	And that we took it seriously.
	And I went back and I listened to that segment.
	I'm like, we really were making a joke out of it.
	I don't even remember it.
	Well, it was Patreon.
	Oh, Patreon and Hadrian.
	Patreon, yeah.
	And then he's like, your migrant coverage of Europe is completely stupid.
	You should stop reading 4chan.
	I read 4chan.
	I don't think so.
	If you really want to know what's going on, and he sends me a PDF with the Calurgi plan that we talked about extensively for almost two episodes.
	You know, the plan to bring in, to make everyone kind of like a brown, Egyptian-like color all over Europe.
	Remember we discussed this plan in detail?
	Yeah, that was a while ago.
	No, it was 255.
	Yeah.
	It was only four shows ago.
	You said 255.
	I meant 955.
	I'm sorry.
	955.
	954.
	It can't be 955.
	We're in 950 today.
	Ah, 45.
	Okay.
	I'm in the middle of a story.
	You're bogging me down with details, Smalls.
	245.
	Okay.
	You said 245 again.
	I'm insane.
	You are!
	945.
	I don't know what's going on.
	945.
	Okay.
	And extensively we discussed this.
	So I said to him that, I said, but you know, dude, I don't know why you're yelling at me, but we talked about this exactly what you're spewing off in my face, so you don't even listen.
	A lot of these guys don't listen.
	But this is the thing.
	Even when, here's what dimension R is.
	Dimensional person will look at you, will listen to what you have to say, and even if you are in complete agreement with their viewpoint, if you are returning to them their actual views, they will think that you're against them.
	And it goes on for a cycle, like two, three cycles.
	And they just don't realize, if you would listen, because they're so conditioned, That anyone saying anything has got to be wrong.
	And this is where the snark then comes from.
	These are the snark people who have to make some kind of unfunny joke.
	It's a very, very strange place where these people live.
	And I've seen it now three times in the past two days where I am saying exactly what this person believes in.
	Whether I believe in it or not.
	And they hear something the exact opposite.
	They hear a controversy in what you're saying.
	And it's an affliction.
	It's very, very odd.
	And you can break through it.
	You go through the cycles with him.
	Then, oh, okay.
	Well, yeah, my dog died.
	I had a flat tire.
	No, I've had this.
	I've seen this where the guy comes at you with something and then you say, I didn't say that.
	Go back and listen again.
	And I don't come here to be personally insulted.
	I always throw that out there.
	And they come back.
	You're right.
	The same way, oh, my dog died.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't mean that.
	I don't know what I was thinking.
	It's very strange.
	And I believe it is a state that people, when...
	And I think it happens to B or A people.
	They just need to fight.
	They just need to have some kind of...
	What is the word I'm looking for?
	Some opposition.
	They're just looking for an opponent.
	For anything.
	Which is why they just hang out on Reddit.
	Yes, of course.
	The number one reason.
	And...
	And again, it's across the spectrum, the political spectrum and the belief spectrum.
	I think they're disenfranchised.
	I think they're truly disenfranchised.
	No matter what it is, you're not doing enough, you're doing too little, you're wrong, it's all wrong.
	It's all wrong.
	And in that group, there's also an element of that is the people who come at you with, why don't you recommend something?
	Why don't you tell us what to do?
	Why don't you become more of an activist?
	And why don't you tell us what to do seems to be a key, which is, we don't want to tell you what to do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's not what we do.
	We're not here to tell people what to do.
	We're just here to break down stuff and say, hey, this is screwed up.
	Do what you want.
	But what happens is that's when they could...
	I don't know if that is complete dimension R when you tell us what to do, but the incessant need for opposing feedback somehow.
	And that's where the snark comes from.
	Because, you know, you could call it trolling, but it's a little different than that.
	These are the disenfranchised.
	These are the disillusioned.
	I think disillusioned, for sure.
	Yeah, disillusioned.
	Everybody's disenfranchised if you're going to be objective about it.
	Explain.
	I mean, what power do you have?
	Zero.
	You're disenfranchised.
	I have one vote.
	One vote of power is what I have, John.
	One vote.
	Just one.
	Okay, so we'll just say disillusioned.
	And in fact, the...
	What I have a couple of clips I've got coming up with Cheryl Atkinson, who on the early part of the month was interviewed for her new book, Smear.
	She was interviewed on Book TV. All right, let's do it now.
	And the reason I, well, if we're going to do it now, I do want to mention that when we discussed the last clip that you had where you thought they were hearing the wrong things, you said, oh, I think they're hearing the wrong things.
	I said, no, this is a blatant lie.
	This is not as though they're hearing the wrong things.
	And I want to play this clip to kind of back myself up.
	And this is smear book intro.
	I don't think I would necessarily work in the business at all ever again because I didn't really see a place based on my friends and contacts that I could go and do the kind of reporting I expected to be able to do that they would want and that I would be unfettered.
	So this opportunity came up out of the blue.
	They created the program with the promise of the editorial freedom.
	It's Sunday morning, 9.30, right?
	Right, depending on where you are.
	And so far, no editorial interference.
	I run my stories through a normal editorial process of lawyers and an ethics review like I did at CBS, which was voluntary, by the way, at CBS. They didn't require it, but I did it.
	Here we have a similar process, but there has been no editorial interference trying to shape my stories.
	Nothing like, you know, at CBS at the end, they told you what they wanted your interviewees to say and what the facts ought to show, you know, before you even gathered them.
	Oh, nice!
	Cheryl Atkinson, she went off, did her own thing, and she also claims to have been hacked by our government.
	She has a lot of claims.
	She has a lot of complaints.
	She was with CBS. Now, she said that they tell you what they want They tell you what clips they want you to get of somebody saying a certain thing and then they want you to conclude a certain thing that they want.
	Now, going back to that ABC report where we caught two examples of the guy saying, well, he criticized the president and then within his own package, he doesn't criticize the president.
	This, to me, is an example of what she just said.
	He had to have that.
	That was the message and he had to find a clip and that's the best he had.
	Or whoever, the producer, I'm sure he didn't put the package together.
	Whoever put the package together.
	Yeah.
	I buy that.
	And so that's why I keep catching this, if you haven't noticed, because I'm trying to catch it as much as I can, on CBS and ABC and NBC where the guys, they make an assertion, and then they provide the example of the assertion, and the example doesn't back it up at all.
	Yeah.
	It works, though.
	I blame MTV for that.
	We learned how to distract people from reality a long time ago.
	You can do that with lots of tricks.
	Somebody wrote a book on it.
	So she wrote a book on this smear thing, and this guy, this guy named Wemple, he's this Wemple character.
	I didn't know about this.
	Eric Wemple, he's the media critic for the WAPO. WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO. And he apparently was in the book Called out as a smear artist, or one of the WAPO smear artists, and so he was combative the whole interview, and he ruined the interview.
	I condemn C-SPAN for putting this interview on with this guy, because he wrecked it.
	The interview was sucked, because he was just criticizing her.
	That's exactly why they put it on.
	Look, you suck.
	We're going to put that all on the air.
	Now, well, maybe.
	Whatever the case...
	When I say that, she had a bunch of very interesting...
	Apparently the book Smear is about mostly...
	Or not mostly, but she has examples of different smears.
	And then she has...
	Goes after Media Matters.
	And the guy who runs it, who is a famous, very famous smear artist.
	And her definition of smeared is sometimes different.
	This guy kept arguing with what smear meant.
	But let's listen to a couple...
	I got two clips.
	The first one here is this guy on this Trump...
	Where they were Billy Budd or whatever it was.
	Billy, Billy, Billy Bush.
	Bush.
	Billy Bush.
	Billy Budd.
	Billy Bush.
	And I can't remember his name.
	They come off the bus and they're illegal.
	I consider this a violation of privacy.
	And I found it very offensive that they even had this thing and that they were holding it.
	And there's NBC, I guess, had it.
	This is the grab him by the pussy thing.
	Grab him by the pussy.
	And so this guy, Wimple, And I want to talk about this grab-em-by-the-pussy and this private conversation between two dorks after we play this particular clip.
	And this is the...
	This one is...
	The horrific clip.
	The 7th, of course, a really big moment when the tape comes of Trump saying to Billy Bush all these nasty things like grabbing by the pussy and all this real terrible stuff.
	And you say that that is, if I'm not mistaken, you say that's the mother of all smears.
	How is that a smear?
	Was it that or was it the, there were two that I highlighted, including the New York Times article about all the women he had mistreated, that the women came out afterwards and said they were misquoted, mischaracterized in the article.
	So maybe also this was grouped under that heading.
	Because again, that was an amplified incident, the same sort of behavior that What was amplified about the tape?
	I mean, that was just, the tape was played, right?
	I just mean amplified.
	It was really broadly circulated and sent around in, you know, hyperspeed fashion by all the people that opposed the president's, the candidates' interests.
	So another true smear.
	Yeah, I mean, it was rooted in truth, obviously.
	I don't think anybody took, even the president didn't seem to take issue with the words that he spoke.
	The way it was characterized, the way it was spread, and the way it was used.
	I mean, people didn't just report that this happened.
	It took on this life of its own, as you saw in the news, with people demanding all kinds of things happen, and that it was the worst thing that had ever happened on the planet, and that he must not be a candidate.
	Wasn't it pretty awful, though?
	I mean, wasn't it just objectively horrific?
	It was very negative.
	I don't think anybody is arguing the opposite.
	I don't think anybody ever argued the opposite.
	Hmm.
	Now, this guy, horrific.
	Would you call it horrific?
	Yes, I have a PTSD from it.
	Yeah, this is what I mean.
	It's like it was a tape of a very...
	Like a surreptitious recording of two guys, and one of them just obviously a braggart.
	You've run into guys like this.
	Yeah, and I typically don't like these guys.
	I hate these guys.
	They're annoying.
	Yeah, they're annoying.
	Oh, yeah.
	We got her in the corner.
	I'm reminded of the air pollution.
	When I was at the air pollution disk, we had a guy who, I won't name him, but he was one of these guys.
	He was exactly like this.
	He's always talking about his victory.
	He was a good-looking guy.
	He could have had a few conquests.
	But all he did was brag about his conquests and all the rest of it.
	And one time...
	Actually, I wasn't at this.
	I was told this by one of his friends who said, you can't believe, you know, half the stuff this guy says.
	And then he told a story about where Gus is the guy's name, first name.
	Gus was in this restaurant where he's starting to make a pass at one of the waitresses.
	And she calls him out on it and says, hey, I'm five minutes away from my break.
	My trailer is parked right in the parking lot.
	Let's go!
	And he just folded.
	Yeah.
	It's a big talker, and that shut him up in that restaurant.
	He would never say anything in there again.
	But this is the kind of guy that does this.
	And to be so naive that you call it awful and horrific, as if this doesn't happen, is pathetic.
	Well, I do notice that we will watch comedy specials.
	I'm just saying general we as a population.
	Yeah.
	We'll watch television shows where everything is discussed.
	Everything is funny.
	Everything is snarky.
	Everything is really off color.
	You know, the jokes left and right.
	But for some reason, we want to hold our politicians and our elected representatives to a, quote, higher standard than we have, apparently, certainly in the United States.
	The public standard is different than the private standard with these guys.
	Right, yes.
	And so now they take a private conversation.
	In other words, if you started surreptitiously taking private conversations with any of these people, or Hillary for that matter, you'd get this sort of thing.
	Exactly.
	So how is this guy, this Wemple guy, so high and mighty that he makes all these assertions?
	Well, he got a book deal.
	It's unbelievable.
	He's got a book.
	Anyway, I was very annoyed by this interview.
	I can tell.
	Let's go back to the last clip, and this is their discussion of how Glenn Beck was taken out, and some of the details are probably new to people.
	Oh, nice.
	Huge success story.
	Using 100% true evidence to do so.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Let me...
	By using 100% true evidence?
	Is that what he said?
	That's what he said.
	Now this guy, here's the assertion he keeps making throughout the interview.
	He will not accept her definition of smear.
	He uses a dictionary definition of smear, which is to use falsehoods To ruin somebody's reputation.
	More or less is a dictionary definition.
	And she's not talking in those terms.
	And so what he says is that anything that's true can't be used as a smear.
	And he keeps arguing with her about this.
	And so, you know, you could put together a lot of true facts and make it into a campaign that she considers to be a smear campaign.
	You could say he has horrible orange hair.
	Yeah.
	That's a smear campaign.
	But it's true.
	Anyway, he's very combative about this, and he's also adenoidal, which really bothers me.
	You know, he talks to the kind of...
	Is he gay by any chance?
	I think he hates women.
	Well, he definitely hates her.
	He might be.
	I don't know.
	I didn't even think about that.
	But I do know he's adenoidal, which is that...
	Oh, stop!
	Stop right there.
	Stop right there.
	Sorry to go astray.
	We got an email from Annie Breglia.
	And she says, Your podcast has been extremely educational as well as facilitating good conversations with greater understanding of my son's point of view.
	And he has donated.
	I have come to very much appreciate your work.
	I don't always agree with your analysis.
	Good.
	But you have largely parted the clouds and allowed the sun to illuminate matters.
	Now she goes on and on.
	But then she says...
	Uh...
	I admit to finding you, especially Adam, of course, offensive on many occasions with your commentary on women's outfits, hairstyles, milfiness, camel toe, etc.
	We don't talk...
	Camel toe is not something that I don't think we've ever mentioned.
	I'm sure the word has come up, but I don't...
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	Also, the inserted pig snorts while listening to a recording of a woman, mimicry of their high-pitched responses, and so on.
	John, you are guilty of joining in with uproarious laughter sometimes, although it seems you sometimes abstain from comments that perhaps recognize the inappropriateness of Adam's comment.
	Are you aware that you don't do any of that in relation to men?
	I'm sorry.
	Bull crap.
	We made fun of...
	That's why you stopped me?
	Yes.
	That's why you stopped me in the middle of my making fun of the guy's voice.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Exactly.
	We do this all the time.
	But...
	Careful of Dimension R... You're only hearing half of it.
	Yeah, you're selectively hearing.
	And we did it just on the previous show, I think, made fun of Scaramucci and how he talks.
	And we made fun of the reporter who sounds like he has to take a dump.
	We do this all the time.
	Yeah, the reporter who...
	Exactly.
	All the time.
	All the time.
	I'm here today.
	But again, I do want to repeat that in general, when we make comments about people's appearance, it is from a television perspective.
	And we speak as television producing professionals.
	We are deconstructing the media.
	Yeah.
	And that gives us license to be douchebags, of course.
	And it's funny.
	And I like doing it.
	But we do it to men, too.
	Absolutely.
	How many times have we made fun of Putin?
	Or what's the guy?
	The dead guy now.
	The elitist.
	Brzezinski.
	Come on!
	All right, done.
	All right, let's go back to the schmear.
	I like that's a good little rant.
	Yeah, you're welcome.
	Okay, so this guy's got a hair up his ass, and he's going on and on.
	He's making her life miserable.
	But this is a very enlightening segment on Beck.
	Huge success story.
	Using 100% true evidence to do so.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Glenn Beck.
	Let's plow through some of the specifics with Glenn Beck.
	You state that, is that a similar sort of thing where he was not being very well heated or there was not a lot of attention paid to him and then he did get slammed by Media Matters.
	He did get pushed out of Fox.
	I think more attention at the time was being paid to him probably than the remark we discussed with Imus.
	I think Beck was getting a huge following, and that was part of why he was so disturbing to the people that he opposes or that oppose him.
	And they went after him precisely because he had a large platform at Fox.
	His show was becoming very successful.
	And then day after day, the drumbeat that he was following was his own smear campaign, you could say, against Media Matters types and George Soros.
	And they were monitoring him.
	So it was sort of this dueling campaign between the two of them.
	But they made, as you see in the book, a very public announcement, a million dollars from George Soros, kind of specifically to get Glenn Beck as a danger to humanity and society.
	And I think they claim credit for pulling him off the air, and I think they were.
	Yes, they do.
	So you're not making any value judgment whether that's a good thing or a bad thing?
	No, I'm not.
	I think it's just a good instructional tool of how an effective smear operation or smear campaign was conducted.
	But smear is not a positive thing, right?
	Smear is a use of a false accusation to degrade someone's reputation.
	A synonym for smear is slander, libel, sully, all those words.
	So if you're saying you're not casting...
	You could have cut it earlier.
	I could have cut that out.
	Now, the thing that I didn't know was that Soros gave Media Matters a million bucks with the sole purpose of getting back off the air?
	Well, that part I don't know, and I don't see any empirical evidence, but I certainly am inclined to believe it.
	It's a lot of money.
	She's got it documented.
	The C-SPAN lady, no less.
	That's interesting.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	So, well, it worked.
	And then here's what the question comes to mind.
	You watch the Blaze once in a while, I'm sure.
	Maybe you don't.
	Yes, sometimes.
	But I do.
	And Soros' name has never come up.
	Well, no.
	Why wouldn't?
	All of a sudden, I mean, Beck used to do these huge diagrams and it'd go for the arrows.
	And it would always connect it to Soros.
	Always.
	And Soros would be at the end of the arrows.
	You're right.
	You're so right.
	In fact, for a while, we got accused of being stupid Glenn Beck people.
	Remember that?
	Vaguely.
	Yeah, if it's not Glenn Beck, it's Alex Jones or whatever.
	It's somebody.
	So he would always do that, but he has not even mentioned Soros ever since Soros took him out.
	Interesting.
	You're right.
	Why?
	Well, death would be one motivator.
	You know, I don't know, man.
	At a certain point, you've got to be careful.
	We have our detractors.
	We have tons of people who don't like what we're doing or disagree or whatever their issue is.
	And, you know, it's harmless.
	It's Reddit.
	It's Twitter.
	It's not even on the face bag, but it's email.
	And people...
	Yeah, but it's harmless.
	She's in that guy.
	I know I'm intimately familiar with that guy.
	So...
	And it's...
	Anyway...
	Yeah, what happens if you have a really heavy hitter go after you?
	Yeah, well, then you have to take things into consideration.
	Yeah, you're done.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I have to remind people all the time about Ross Perot.
	Whenever I say...
	And it wasn't as though he's a lightweight.
	No, well, talk about a crazy-ass dude with funny voice.
	I've got a chart right here for you!
	He was the Glenn Beck kind of politics with his charts, his flip charts.
	And by the way, I think if a new politician, specifically somebody like Trump, actually went in front of the public when they gave their speeches with those little charts that showed things, The way Ross Perot did, I thought they were very valuable and strong.
	Or the way the fireside chats went, which now is, I think Obama pretty much turned that into the presidential podcast.
	Yeah, and Trump is not paying attention to that.
	It's very poor.
	I thought that they were really going to have leaders going and stuff flying around.
	You have cool virtual set maybe.
	There's so many things they could do.
	The guy's a TV guy, and that's what he comes up with.
	It's pathetic.
	It's really sad.
	And it's nothing like...
	So the fireside chat, that was Roosevelt, I believe, right?
	Roosevelt?
	Yep.
	He's the one who started him in the radio.
	Yeah.
	Then he'd say, hey, everybody, here's what I want you to do for tomorrow's chat.
	I want you to go get a map, and people would be lined up outside of the Five and Dime or wherever you'd buy a map or a globe to buy a map.
	The president's going to tell us, and we'd look at the map, and we'd understand it.
	And I think people really understood it much better.
	When you look at the map, you understand things.
	You know, Perot, I'm telling you, when Perot was there and he'd have his little chart, because it was a close-up shot, it was a desk shot, it was big enough you could see the chart, and he had a pointer, and he would point, and he'd show these things, he'd show the jobs leaving, you know, the sucking sound from Mexico, all these little idiosyncratic things he came up with.
	But he'd show this stuff, and it was riveting.
	Yeah.
	Just to let everybody know, some younger listeners, this was an infamous three-way battle that we had.
	It was Bush...
	H.W. H.W. H.W. Who was the other?
	Was it Clinton?
	Must have been Clinton then.
	Yeah.
	Clinton and Ross Perot.
	And I always bring this up when people say, we don't do a two-party system in America.
	No, this is why I like to vote independent, to keep that notion out and keep it alive that we can still have independence.
	And Perot had, I believe, close to 30%.
	It was an enormous...
	It had a huge number and he was gaining momentum.
	And then you were going to explain what happened.
	Yeah, he quit, and he said, because my family's in danger.
	Yeah, the CIA, it's believed.
	Well, he didn't say the CIA, but he said...
	It's believed.
	It could have been anybody.
	It could have been some mafia guys, but it's believed to be the CIA came up to him, and they showed some...
	I heard that they showed some compromising photos.
	Dirt on his daughter, I think, was maybe...
	Yeah, dirt on his daughter, and this is coming out.
	If you don't get out of this race right now, we...
	You know what I'd say to my daughter?
	I'd say to my daughter, baby, you're just going to have to bite the bullet.
	I'm going for it.
	Screw whatever you did.
	Screw you with what you did.
	I'm going to be president.
	Ross Perot wasn't that way.
	No.
	Have I told you a story about when Ross Perot tried to buy my company back in the day?
	No.
	Was it EDS? Now we're talking 1994, I think, 95?
	And I had OnRamp before it became Think New Ideas, and he wanted to buy it, and he flew us out, me and Bloom, Ron Bloom, flew us out to Plano, Put us up in a hotel in the morning, so just be outside the hotel at...
	I'm sure I've told this story.
	Be outside the hotel, you know, 8.30 a.m.
	Okay, we're outside, we're waiting, all of a sudden you...
	Helicopter lands.
	You get in.
	The helicopter takes us to the building.
	We land on the roof.
	Then you go down and it's a complete show.
	They showed the data floor.
	They had this almost like the bridge of the Enterprise with three different levels of people sitting in different heights and then the curtains open and...
	You can see all the servers and people running around, way down below, like mission control kind of.
	Total theater.
	And then, okay, now we're going to show you a movie.
	You go in this movie theater, and it's about the future, the street of the future, and what your neighborhood will look like.
	And it's going to be phenomenal.
	And the company that's going to bring it to you is EDS. And then the movie ends, the screen goes up.
	You feel this blast of cold air and there's a whole street with a smart gas station and a smart home and a smart fridge and an electric car.
	He was right about that.
	And then you walk from your seat in the movie theater into the street.
	It was very impressive.
	I'd say...
	The bastard underbid, so screw him.
	No.
	He said, you know, you can't buy my company.
	That's funny.
	I met him once.
	I... Yeah, very, very short guy.
	Like 5'2", maybe.
	5'2", I'd say.
	I'd say 5'4", maybe.
	Somewhere in that range.
	It's short.
	For us 6-footers, it's short.
	He's a borderline...
	He may actually be a petite male.
	Petite males are out there.
	It's like petite women.
	Stephanopoulos.
	Yeah, he's petite, or Robert Reich, the guy that used to be with the Clinton administration.
	That guy's about 4'11", I think.
	How hot?
	Anyway, beside the point.
	But again, we're making fun of men.
	Yeah, vertically challenged men, no less.
	So he was at the, when Steve Jobs rolled out next.
	Oh, yes.
	I was at that event.
	And Perot, and I went upstairs into the, I think it was at the San Francisco Civic Auditorium or someplace like that, and I went upstairs to roam around the balcony.
	Trolling for women, no doubt.
	I didn't see any up there.
	Hey, girls.
	But there was Perot.
	See the back page of Macworld yet?
	There was Perot standing there watching the whole thing, and I knew that he'd invested in Next.
	And so I went up and introduced myself and started chatting with him.
	Nobody around.
	There's no bodyguards.
	There's nothing.
	He's just standing there.
	And I asked him why he invested, you know, because I thought even back then Steve Jobs was something of a dick.
	And he told me why, you know, what his decision-making process was.
	It was a very interesting conversation.
	I really enjoyed it.
	But he did have still that screechy voice, and he had something I'm going to discuss in an upcoming newsletter.
	He had the one big eyeball.
	Oh, I don't, what is this?
	I'm not sure about this.
	The people, there's a group of people, they have either one, the left or the right eyeball appears to be open a little wider than the other.
	Is there a name for this affliction?
	It's called the big eyeball effect.
	I don't know.
	There's no name for it.
	It's not an affliction.
	You see it.
	Jeff Bezos has it the worst of anyone.
	Oh, let me check out a picture of him.
	Keep going.
	If you look at enough pictures of Bezos, you'll see one where his left eyeball is really wide and his right eyeball is kind of semi-closed.
	I'm actually using the search term Jeff Bezos big eyeball, the first top hit.
	What's the deal with Jeff Bezos' eye?
	Nice!
	You're right.
	It looks like it could be a glass eye, almost.
	Like it's artificial.
	No, I'm sure it's not.
	I've come up with a theory about this, which I'll discuss in an upcoming newsletter.
	It's very interesting.
	Very exciting.
	And I always thought Perot had...
	I couldn't find any good pictures of Perot's big left eye, but when I met him, he was apparent to me.
	And...
	Once you start looking for this phenomenon, you'll find left eyes, big eyes, and sometimes you'll find big right eyes.
	But generally speaking in the business community, big left eyes.
	Well, I'm going to go to something completely different for a moment.
	Finally, some real mainstream M5M news about the Anwar brothers, who we've been tracking ever since George Webb started.
	We're talking about an undercovered story.
	Yeah, ever since George Webb came to our attention.
	Cool.
	A while ago.
	And been following that.
	These are the...
	We just call them the brothers.
	And they're Pakistanis who had these interesting IT contracts.
	And they worked primarily for Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
	And there's all kinds of shenanigans going on with alleged hacking into other congressional members' computers.
	A lot of different things going on.
	Then we hear that hard drives were retrieved from a house that one of the...
	That guy was leasing out.
	And these are the hard drives that the congressional police confiscated, apparently with help from the FBI. And now there's a little confusion because we're hearing that they were smashed.
	The hard drives were smashed with a hammer.
	And we're not sure if that happened before they were confiscated or perhaps by intelligence officials.
	We just really don't know.
	But I do have an RT report, which is pretty decent.
	On Monday, a former House IT staffer Imran Awan was arrested at Dallas airport, trying to leave Washington DC for Pakistan, charged with bank fraud.
	According to the FBI document, Awan, along with his wife, defrauded the House credit union of almost $300,000 to, I quote, obtain money by means of false pretenses, end of quote.
	It is believed that he has already wired all the money to Pakistan, which eventually became the reason for his arrest, and also that he claimed the money for funeral arrangements.
	But who is Imran Awan?
	Not your average IT specialist working for the House.
	He started his career at Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz's office back in 2005, and since then has managed to get at least four of his family members to work on the Hill.
	And just recently, Imran Awan was part of a criminal investigation after five current and former House staffers were accused of stealing equipment from members' offices without their knowledge and thus committing serious, potentially illegal violations.
	Again, Imran Awan was not just another IT guy on the hill.
	In 12 years, he had worked for 25 House Democrats, including Ohio Representative Marsha Fudge and New York Democrat Gregory Meeks.
	And those two were among the list of lawmakers who cut ties with Awan after his name surfaced in the equipment theft allegations.
	The only one who did not and kept Imran on the payroll was Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the former chair of the DNC. She kept him employed despite a one being stripped of access to house IT networks for months.
	Speaking of which, before the theft scandal, Awan enjoyed huge access to emails and files of dozens of Congress members, including password to the iPad of Wasserman Schultz, which she had been using for business while serving as chair of the DNC. Awan was also mentioned in one of the DNC cables leaked by the WikiLeaks, which, as you can imagine, has already generated a flurry of theories about Awan potentially being the leaker of those emails.
	The E1 story at this point certainly has more questions than answers.
	The man himself pleaded not guilty on Tuesday.
	We also reached out to Debbie Wasserman Schultz's office for comment, but there's been no response as of yet.
	Gee, no kidding.
	So they got this guy on just a charge for money laundering or stealing.
	They got him.
	That's the main point.
	So someone was looking for this guy.
	There's definitely someone on this case within either law enforcement or I would hope FBI, and I hope they're doing the right thing.
	Because this thing really stinks.
	And the M5M, they're just not touching it.
	They are not touching the story at all.
	I know I'm baffled by this.
	They go all over, they fall all over themselves over this, some tweet that Trump does, and then they still spend the whole news cycle talking about it, and they just ignore this story.
	Or, my favorite, that Trump confused the Boy Scouts of America for the Hitler Youth.
	That was my favorite story.
	I love that story.
	We're back to that now?
	I mean, it says more about the person who sees...
	I mean, I really...
	I've seen a lot of Hitler Youth videos growing up in the Netherlands.
	You know, you became kind of indoctrinated.
	Hey, kids, if this starts to happen to you, beware.
	It's probably not a good ending.
	And that didn't come up.
	It didn't come up in my head at all.
	I'm just...
	I was outraged because he said hell or something like that.
	Whatever it was.
	And, you know, they barely showed the audience.
	The Boy Scouts are not all 12 years old, but, okay.
	But then, all to say, oh, he could...
	Hitler Youth.
	Hitler Youth, yes, political rally.
	It's very insulting to the Boy Scouts.
	To the Boy Scouts, yes.
	I found the whole thing to be...
	Really sick.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it is.
	Again, it's the same thing.
	It's the tolerant left.
	Yeah.
	You know, just seeing Hitler everywhere.
	I love it when Tina comes home every day.
	You know, it's inevitable that she's in a bee-ish environment.
	And she'll come home and she'll be like...
	Oh my god, what happened now?
	I have to kind of work on it, like deprogram her a little bit.
	She's like, why can't he just shut up?
	I'm like, okay, let's just sit down for a second, let's see what's going on.
	Because usually I've missed all of it because I'm doing other things.
	You know, I try to stay away from all dimensions during my normal hours of business.
	And it's just, you know, I can't even find what is so egregious that you really have to read.
	Oh, he said hell.
	And then I see the Hitler Youth things coming through.
	I'm like, oh my God.
	This is just insane.
	Completely insane.
	Yeah, then later he talked to some other youth group, which I actually saw the live feed of, because they had a live feed coming down the satellite into the ABC group locally, which is online, and it was a dissimilar group.
	It was a bunch of kids that...
	It's like a boys and girls club, only just some group of kids that are run by the VFW. I never even heard of this club.
	Oh, interesting.
	And, you know, he was just being his...
	You know, it's the Trump.
	There's two Trumps.
	There's the Trump that is the affable, big audience, let me just ad-lib a speech and say what I feel like, Trump, that guy.
	And then there's the other guy who reads from a prompter, you know, reads what he's told and he...
	Embellish.
	I guess there's three.
	There's a tweeting Trump.
	There's a tweeting Trump.
	There's a teleprompter Trump.
	Then there's the totally off-script Trump.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And it's the off-script Trump is the funniest one.
	Yeah, I get a lot of enjoyment.
	But he goes in front of all these kids, and he keeps saying, is this a great place to be right now?
	And the kids yell, yay.
	He says, I can't hear you.
	And they yell louder.
	Yeah.
	You know, and this kind of thing.
	Aren't you all happy to be here?
	And at some point I felt that he was giving...
	Now I'm reading into it from the wrong dimension, probably, but I'm probably from the dimension B. I'm reading into it when he's getting the kids to say how great it is to come visit the White House.
	I'm kind of getting the impression he's needling the Golden Gate State Warriors.
	Oh, yeah, for not showing up.
	Yeah, because they didn't want to come to see the president because they went to see the black president.
	This guy's not black, so we're not going.
	And you know, the black president, the way you put that, nice, missed his invitation to the Boy Scouts of America because he had a previous engagement.
	Do you know what his previous engagement was?
	Golf.
	Oh, close.
	An appearance on The View.
	Oh.
	So he couldn't go.
	He couldn't be a part of it.
	Anyway, all of this spills over into the mainstream media.
	And actually, I caught this on MSNBC. What's the guy's name?
	Roland Martin.
	And the MSNBC hostess actually called him on it.
	Here's the deal.
	Large rallies for Donald Trump.
	That's his crack.
	He is addicted to it.
	He is a crackhead when it comes to large crowds.
	I'm like, yeah, now you're talking.
	He is a crackhead.
	And you notice how he slips into a little black kind of like, he's a crackhead.
	Yeah, he's a little black.
	Yeah, very nice.
	Very nice.
	I like it.
	Oh, you can't say crackhead.
	...rallies for Donald Trump.
	That's his crack.
	He is addicted to it.
	He is a crackhead when it comes to large crowds.
	No, no, no, follow me here.
	No, no, follow me, Stephanie.
	Stephanie, Stephanie, Stephanie.
	Hold on.
	We're talking about being respectful.
	No, I know.
	Follow me here.
	Hold on a second.
	No, this is the president of the United States.
	If you want to say he's an adrenaline addict, if you want to say his virus, I'm not fine.
	You're not going to say it's his crack.
	That's his fix.
	So he gets in front of a large crowd.
	He loses it.
	He's not letting up.
	Yeah, I love that.
	I thought that was really good.
	He's a crackhead when it comes...
	Yeah!
	Duh.
	I mean, you could describe it in many ways.
	I agree.
	I like crackhead a lot, though.
	I think that was good.
	I appreciate it.
	And then Brennan, former CIA director, he was at the, I guess, the Aspirin Conference.
	Is that on again?
	The Aspirin Conference.
	The Aspirin Conference, yes.
	The Aspirin Conference in Aspirin.
	In Aspirin, Colorado.
	Which, of course, is hosted by insider Brolf Blitzer.
	Yeah, and the whole operation is run by Isaacson, the...
	The hedge fund guy?
	Is that a hedge fund?
	No, Isaacson is an ex-journalist.
	I think we kind of associated him with one of the agencies.
	We don't know which one for sure.
	CIA, probably.
	He's the one who writes these big fat books out of the blue.
	Yeah.
	And meanwhile runs all these operations.
	It seems unlikely anyone has that much energy or time, but okay.
	Well, he said something very interesting.
	You know, be addressed sooner rather than later in terms of what is there.
	If there's nothing there, let's move on.
	But this is where the work of Robert Mueller is critical to our future as a country because, you know, in some respects we're a government and a nation in crisis right now.
	You have confidence in the special counsel?
	Absolutely.
	You both worked with him for a long time when he was head of the FBI? Absolutely.
	The douchebag is it.
	Oh yeah, Bob!
	He's the best!
	Bob will take care of him!
	Bob!
	Fired choice.
	They don't come any better.
	Nobody better than Bob Mueller.
	Nobody does it better.
	He's a straight shooter and will not be intimidated by any.
	And if he's fired by Mr.
	Trump or is tempted to be fired by Mr.
	Trump, I hope, I really hope that our members of Congress, our elected representatives, are going to stand up and say enough is enough.
	And stop making apologies and excuses for things that are happening that really flout, I think, our system of laws and government here.
	When you say enough is enough...
	Brennan still talks, he has that fast-talking style of leave it to beaver.
	He's going to double down now on this.
	So he's saying, eh, Congress should stand up!
	And Brolf, appropriately, says, well, what do you mean by that?
	...excuses for things that are happening that really flout, I think, our system of laws and government here.
	When you say enough is enough...
	Woo!
	If he's fired, and he's the President of the United States, so he could tell Rosenstein to fire him if he wants.
	But if he's fired, what would you want Congress to do?
	First of all, I think it's the obligation of some executive branch officials to refuse to carry out some of these orders that, again, are inconsistent with what this country is all about.
	Is he calling for mutiny?
	Well, it sounds like.
	He said people should just ignore the orders.
	I think that's it.
	First of all, I think it's the obligation of some executive branch officials to refuse to carry out some of these orders that, again, are inconsistent with what this country is all about.
	But I would just hope that this is not going to be a partisan issue.
	Is he calling for a coup, maybe?
	I mean, he's calling for something.
	I think that's kind of borderline what he's doing there.
	Yeah, I think so, too.
	He's not a patriot.
	Now, there is a bunch of right-wing rumors floating around that Mueller, Mueller, Mueller, Mueller is going to go after Hillary, but they don't want to talk about it.
	I think this is just wishful thinking.
	I don't think that's true at all.
	By the way, I'm in total agreement with that.
	I think it's wishful thinking.
	But the way the thinking goes is that Mueller is laying low, but he's going to go after Hillary and the Clinton Foundation.
	And the whole thing with Jeff Sessions is just a ruse.
	Because for people that don't know, Trump is tweeting nasty things about his attorney general.
	Okay, explain how that fits in.
	Well, it makes it look like the White House is trying to get rid of Sessions because they're scared to death that the Mueller investigation is going to...
	Turn something up.
	Hook up the Russians with the Trump events to get into the finances of the kids and find out that his wife was, you know, a porn star.
	Who knows?
	All these things are possible.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Do you have a clip?
	You got something to listen to?
	I got no clips.
	Oh, that's too bad.
	I saw you have a Sessions clip.
	Well, this will bring us up to speed on sessions.
	I have a little point to make after you play this clip.
	President Trump in the Rose Garden today, once again attacking his own Attorney General for recusing himself from the Russia investigation.
	I am disappointed in the Attorney General.
	He should not have recused himself.
	Sessions made the decision because he served on the Trump campaign and has gotten bipartisan praise for the move.
	Still today, the President called on Sessions to focus his attention elsewhere.
	I want the Attorney General to be much tougher on the leaks from intelligence agencies, which are leaking like rarely have they ever leaked before at a very important level.
	But Mr.
	Trump stopped short of firing him.
	We will see what happens.
	Time will tell.
	Time will tell.
	Yeah.
	You've got to start looking on LinkedIn when you hear your boss say that.
	When I worked for the air pollution district, we had a deputy, something or other, who ran the enforcement division.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Somebody was saying, that guy really...
	He was a short, kind of a funny-looking guy that had no real...
	Except for he wore nice suits.
	He had no...
	Oh, like Anthony Scaramucci.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	He was always dressed to the tens, and he always had these babes that would come over that were...
	They would go out with him.
	They're always different.
	Somebody commented that, man, that guy must have a charm or something going on because he's got all these women.
	And I had to point out, because I was floating around an area that had a lot of hookers, and he was just hanging out with a lot of escorts.
	And Donovan was a...
	One of these manager types that really got on your nerves because his memos would always end with something like a word to the wise.
	That's kind of threatening.
	Yeah, a word to the wise.
	You just put it on stuff commonly and this is like time will tell.
	I find guys who do that to be some of the worst managers in It's imaginable.
	They're very annoying.
	They keep you on edge.
	Maybe that's the idea.
	Keeps you on edge.
	Makes you nervous.
	Makes you fearful for your job.
	Has all kinds of...
	I don't like it.
	I don't like them.
	And when Trump says, time will tell.
	And then he says it twice.
	I'm just like, this is a guy I wouldn't want to work for.
	I just wouldn't want to work for a guy like that.
	That's what I said.
	You hear that from your boss.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	It's like constant threats.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I also don't see Trump as taking one for the team.
	No, but I also don't see...
	I just don't see the point.
	You said it had something to do with that being a distraction.
	Just go back to that for a second.
	Well, I'm thinking in the sense of a giant conspiracy where Trump is trying to make sure that If there's an investigation of Hillary and Bill, they're not shredding documents because they think it's going on.
	They're just, da-da-da-da, I'm fine.
	And so you want to create a smoke screen, and the thing with Sessions looks like it might be a smoke screen that helps keep people's eye off of what...
	Well, here's a thought.
	may be in on it.
	It's like, Jeff, listen, dude, because they're really good friends where they were.
	Dude, here's what's going to happen.
	I need to just be calling you out and you're just going to have to take this crap because dot, dot, dot.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	I think that's a possibility.
	I think it's a possibility.
	I don't know what kind of a possibility it is.
	It's the first time that this has come up about something the president has done where I actually am considering that to be a possibility.
	It's always, oh, he's just creating a diversion of smoking.
	No, it's usually not.
	This just seems, to say it once, but to continuously carp on the guy?
	Yeah, he's going overboard.
	Yeah, so there is something up with that.
	If he wasn't going overboard, I wouldn't be so suspicious.
	Right.
	Well, Sessions really taken one for the team then.
	Big time.
	Can you imagine that?
	I'm going to have the president, he's going to have to say that you're a douche.
	Well, time will tell.
	Now that's patriotism right there, ladies and gentlemen.
	To have the president call you out as a douche.
	Nice.
	Well, good on you, Jeff, if it's true.
	In the meantime...
	I'd like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C. Renesee stands for Community Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also...
	In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the games and nights out there.
	In the morning to the chatroom, noagendastream.com.
	Good to see you all there.
	Everybody all lined up and ready and good to go with the snark, as usual.
	In the morning to comic strip blogger, he brought us the artwork for episode niner for niner, the brosplosion.
	This was a very devious-looking elephant.
	That made it into the album art, which we appreciate.
	And there's reasons for that.
	If you heard episode 949, then you would know why.
	And it was perfect.
	There was a number of other good pieces, but I think this one really hit home for us.
	We liked it.
	And of course, we thank all of our artists who submit art at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	It's always beautiful to see.
	And after that great elephant bit, we really got very little in the way of responses for the next show.
	It's like, show 950 and great elephant bit.
	Show 950 and we got nothing.
	I mean, it's a real dud.
	I blame myself.
	I guess the newsletter wasn't, you know, making it clear.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 people.
	In total, took part in the great celebration.
	You get that little thing, that little horn that we like to blow during these fabulous celebrations.
	Yeah, during a big celebration.
	Yeah, a big giant celebration.
	Yes, hold on a second.
	and we are so happy.
	Thank you all so much.
	Thank you.
	And it nails it down.
	So we have like one, two, three, four executive producers and one Lou, an associate executive producer.
	But there's at least one executive producer, Janet from Brentwood.
	And by the way, on the birthday list, I have the letter from her.
	On the birthday list, she should be identified as Janet from Brentwood, not just Janet.
	You might want to make that change.
	I'll change it.
	She contributed $727.50.
	And I believe we have to give her a de-douching right off the bat.
	You've been de-douched.
	Done and done.
	And now you're going to get a list of things to play.
	I'm going to give them to you before I read the note.
	Oh, thank you.
	Putin on the Ritz.
	Stay woke, my millennials.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	With any sort, I guess.
	Resist we much and the goat scream.
	Okay.
	And by the way...
	That's very handy.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	By the way, I think the goat scream is a must for these things.
	I don't know why it cracks me up so much.
	It's just a perfect goat.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	I'm a first-time contributor, partly by dereliction, partly by design.
	During the last election, I was befuddled and anxious about the obviously biased MSM media coverage.
	My smart son, Nick from Walnut Creek, hit me in the mouth and said, Mom, don't watch network news or cable news.
	Listen to the podcast No Agenda.
	I began to listen to your shows more and more and realize that your media deconstruction and quirkiness helped keep me sane, sane, she says, amid the ongoing political craziness.
	Realizing a couple of months ago that you have a show on my birthday today, 727.50.
	So that's what she gave.
	I don't know what the 50's got to do with it.
	No, maybe she's 50.
	Anyway, she says, we much resist mindless progressivism, politicized science, and biased MSM. So I would like to hear, and then I gave you the clip list, and she says, thanks for the great job.
	Keep it up, Janet from Brentwood.
	Thank you very much, Janet.
	And was there a significance to the number that she came in with?
	Well, yeah, 727's her birthday.
	That's today.
	Oh, of course.
	Duh.
	And the 50 is, she turned 50, maybe?
	I'm guessing that's her age.
	All right.
	MW, and you don't know where there's fake news.
	Why don't you get your Gitmo fix?
	My millennials, stay woke.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.
	Hey.
	No resist.
	We much.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	You've got karma.
	Always a winner.
	Now we have three donations in a row that are, except for variations of 33333, which I find interesting.
	Caleb Hilly in Central South Carolina says, $333.33.
	Your show has been a great way to stay sane and keep up with the news since I started listening regularly about a year ago.
	This is truly the best podcast in the universe, and I like to hear a bit of Yoko singing, accompanied by Millennial, again, and goat screams.
	No!
	I'm telling you, this is unbelievable, these coincidences.
	Also, could I get some relationship karma to help find a universe-straddling girlfriend?
	Thanks for all your hard work and go podcasting.
	My millennials stay woke.
	You've got karma.
	Uh...
	Downward, we got Andrew Drake in some parts unknown here.
	It's $333.33.
	This should bump me past the grand for my knighthood.
	Nice.
	I would like to be known as Sir Brock F. N. Samson of the Burning Marsh.
	Okay.
	That would be great, he says.
	Could I please get a Jabba's Karma and an F. Cancer for my father who has been getting...
	Carcinomas gouged and burned off his skin.
	Keep up the great work.
	All right, we'll do it in that order.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Dame Francine Hardaway.
	Oh, hello, Dame Francine.
	Her buddy.
	$333, and she just simply says for job 950, I love you guys.
	We'll give her karma whether she wants it or not.
	Yes, I appreciate that, Dame Francine.
	Thank you so much.
	She's busy, man.
	She's everywhere.
	See her on the face bags?
	Boom, she's in Arizona.
	Boom, she's in San Francisco.
	Boom, she's in New York.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	I thought she was retired.
	Yeah, she's retired, but not tired.
	She's busy.
	You've got karma.
	And last but not least, Nick Foster in Trimble, Missouri.
	200.
	And he says, John's description of elephant sex made me giggle.
	Please, out there, somebody remix.
	Okay.
	Yeah, well, alright.
	I did receive one, but, you know, what's happening is we're getting more and more, instead of stuff being really cut in the beat, we're just getting pieces of a story over a beat.
	You actually complained about this after the show last time.
	Yeah.
	You see, you didn't like it.
	Yeah, what I don't like is, I like techno and all the rest of it, but.
	Well, of course.
	The thing that was fabulous, I'm using that word, previous to some of the stuff we're getting now, was where someone would say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Batman.
	Or there was some, you know, where you're doing stuff that has got some sort of a use of the sound, of the sayings, the sounds, the clips or whatever, that kind of go with the music, not just us blabbering about stuff and some nondescript not just us blabbering about stuff and some nondescript music bed underneath it that's kind of cool and maybe you dreamed it up yourself on your keyboard, but it's not interesting.
	We'll be right back.
	Nice.
	Forgotten that one.
	It's a good one.
	And there you have it.
	All right.
	Anyway, that's our group of executive producers, associate executive producers for show, celebratory show, 950.
	Yes, congratulations, John.
	Congratulations.
	The job we did.
	Yes, actually, we should be congratulating for doing 900, 950 shows.
	But remember, they used to be better.
	That's just what I hear all day.
	Ah, you know, used to be better.
	What is that sound?
	This is a good sound you have.
	I like that.
	What is that?
	That's the Tonette.
	Huh.
	Well, you're making a new sound with it.
	Do it again.
	Almost the same key.
	It's beautiful.
	Yeah, I'm very similar.
	All right.
	These are official credits, executive producers and associate executive producers who just received them.
	We always give these credits up front, just like Hollywood does.
	You see that all the time.
	And these are very...
	It's exactly the same, whether you're producing songs or artwork or giving us information or definitely helping with the finances, which is what most people do because they don't have those other talents.
	It is highly appreciated.
	Thank you very much.
	And use these credits wisely where...
	Again, we come back to LinkedIn.
	People like to put that on their resume.
	You get views, for sure.
	We'll be thanking more people, $50 and above, later on in the program.
	And we have another show coming up on Sunday.
	Please remember us at...
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Coming up on the weekend, that means you'll be out hanging with the bras.
	Why don't you propagate the formula?
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	And it must have at least been four emails this week from parents who were turned on to the show by their kids.
	Well, they're older kids, not necessarily really young kids, but late 20s, 30s, which is nice.
	Yes, I'm happy to hear that.
	We're getting a cultural mix.
	We're getting a generational mix in and out.
	I got a lot of notes from people about the concept that there's two millennial groups.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Do you have that note handy?
	We got someone confirmed it, actually.
	Well, I don't know if I... No, I don't have it handy.
	But I can dig it up.
	I do want to bring up a topic, though, that I... This is just kind of an in-passing thing.
	It came from, I was reading the London Review of Books.
	And there's this article by David Brom, which is kind of a Trump basher.
	But it had a couple of paragraphs in here that I want to read because it brought to mind something I didn't consider.
	This is the end of the article.
	He's bitching and moaning about stuff.
	He says, Mainstream media are using their peck of Trump a day to keep ratings high while making it impossible for him to govern.
	Just the thing Fox did for 16 years to Bill Clinton and Obama.
	The retaliation is symmetrical and warranted, but it does nothing to advance the cause of a political opposition.
	The Democrats, still looking to retrieve the stolen election, but uncertain what opening to pursue, seem almost united in pushing for confrontation with Russia.
	Guided in this by the unvaried diet of the media and the mythology of the Cold War, an epoch whose non-mythological terrors few of them experienced as adults, unlike me and you, to some extent.
	By keeping Trump in the news as both enemy and a source of a scandal, they prevent their own fresh talents from ever appearing on the front page.
	Well, it advises they may be about Russia's intervention, or not, and Trump's depravity, or not.
	They are looking, I'm putting in the or nots, by the way, not him.
	Yes, I understand.
	They are looking for a police detective solution to a political problem.
	And what this brought to mind when I was reading this was the following idea.
	One of the reasons Trump won the election, and I think People still complain about this, is that the media was giving him so much attention that he was just in the news all the time.
	75% of the articles in the time.
	Which, by the way, has now turned into positive media attention.
	He's still getting the same over-attention by the media.
	Yep.
	So nothing has changed.
	And so the Democrats, and in fact the people that hate Trump, we'll say the Washington Post, the New York Times, CNN, and MSNBC. I remember when MSNBC, for example, actually stopped a program, I think it was Rachel's show, and they put I guess to ridicule it later.
	I'm not sure why they would do this.
	Yes, that's exactly what kind of crazy will happen now!
	Yes, exactly.
	And they would never put a Bernie speech on.
	Bernie gave as many speeches.
	He was getting bigger than Trump often.
	They would never do that with him.
	They had a separate memo to not highlight Bernie.
	Bernie was a different reason.
	And to be honest, Bernie is boring on TV. His speeches were okay.
	Boring.
	The point is, is that the media, what they were doing to get Trump elected, they're still doing!
	Well, this ties in neatly to, and I really want to read this list, with a House resolution that has been introduced by Mr.
	Cohen and a whole slew, including Mr.
	Al Green, Mr.
	Carson, Ms.
	Lee, Watson Coleman, Boyle, on and on and on and on and on.
	All of the Democrats.
	And as with the resolution, and we are very familiar with it, it's kind of meaningless, the resolution, but it always has a resolved part at the end, which means we're going to have to take action on this.
	And it's House Resolution 456.
	And I just want to read the whereases.
	Because this is all the grievances they apparently have all in one document that they're going to use to get him impeached.
	Actually, when you hear the resolve part, it's kind of tame.
	But it's really interesting to read what they're all pissed off about.
	You ready for the list?
	Whereas on January 20, 2017, Donald J. Trump swore to, quote, faithfully execute the office of the President of the United States and to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.
	That's just the first whereas.
	In other words, he's unconstitutional.
	Whereas the Constitution prohibits federal officeholders from accepting emoluments of any kind from a foreign state without consent of Congress.
	Whereas President Trump has refused to divest place into a blind trust or otherwise give up his ownership interest in his worldwide business holdings since becoming president.
	Whereas President Trump has refused to release his tax returns in a break from the practice of United States presidents for more than 40 years.
	Whereas on February 14, 2017, the Chinese government registered a trademark to Donald J. Trump for branded construction services following a 10-year legal battle that turned in Donald John Trump's favor after he declared his candidacy for President of the United States.
	And we'll continue.
	Whereas on February 27, 2017 and March 6, 2017, the Chinese government granted preliminary approval of 38 new trademarks to Donald John Trump and one of his companies, and the director of a Hong Kong intellectual property consultancy said he had never seen so many applications approved so expeditiously, and the approvals and the director of a Hong Kong intellectual property consultancy said he had never seen so many applications approved so expeditiously, and the approvals closely followed President So now it's a little new here.
	Let's stop there.
	The following line is important.
	Whereas President Trump did not first seek or obtain the consent of Congress before accepting any of these trademark benefits from Congress.
	Trump, in that commentary, or that whereas, they talk about Trump accepting the one China policy.
	It was the same Democrats when Trump took the call from the Taiwanese president out of order, which he shouldn't have done.
	They condemned him for not following the one China policy.
	He knuckled under because of the Democrats bitching about him taking that phone call that That's the root of his one China policy.
	So what are they bitching about in this thing?
	Well, they're going to try and get him on technicality.
	They're looking for a technicality.
	Yeah, all the emoluments clauses will continue.
	And it's crazy because this is exactly what you say to yourself when you cope to the health.
	Accusing people of what they are guilty of themselves.
	Because you know that all these people are on the take.
	All of them.
	them they all have deals and are getting all kinds of goodies and trips and stuff anyway whereas president trump owns approximately 77 of the trump old post office llc which holds a lease from the general services administration to operate the trump international hotel in washington dc whereas the trump international hotel in washington dc has actively courted foreign diplomats for their business and according to public reports since the november
	2016 election diplomats have made plans to stay at the hotel to curry favor with donald john trump sorry i take offense with using my name Whereas some diplomats have said spending money at Trump's hotel is an easy, friendly gesture to the new president.
	Whereas in late January 2017, a lobbying firm working for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia paid for a room at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. after Inauguration Day as part of its effort to bring activists to Washington to urge Congress to repeal the law letting 9-11 victims' families sue the kingdom.
	And they go on.
	It was reportedly taken in $270,000 in payments tied to Saudi Arabia for expenses including lodging, catering, and parking expenses.
	Correct me if I'm wrong.
	Didn't he explicitly say that all profits from the DC hotel, the Trump International Hotel, would be given to the Treasury?
	I don't remember that.
	I do.
	Okay.
	It's possible that he said that.
	Okay, so they're trying to get...
	That would end that controversy.
	Then we have...
	I'll skip the dates.
	Whereas the Embassy of Kuwait held its National Day celebration at Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. Whereas the ambassador and permanent representative of Georgia to the United States stayed at Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. Whereas President Trump did not first seek or obtain the consent of Congress before accepting any of the benefits from foreign states derived from their patronage of the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. You see what's going on here?
	And it just keeps on going.
	Back to China.
	Trump owns Trump Tower, a mixed-use skyscraper in New York, where at least two of the Trump Tower tenants are entities owned by foreign states, including the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, which is owned by China, and Abu Dhabi Tourism and Cultural Authority, which is owned by the United Arab Emirates.
	And it just goes on and on.
	This is a good one.
	Whereas the president is an executive producer of The Apprentice and the state-owned television station BBC One in the United Kingdom pays license fees to broadcast the show.
	And Trump has not sought or obtained the consent of Congress before accepting benefits from the United Kingdom or any other foreign government in the form of licensing fees for The Apprentice.
	This is how far this is going.
	Because our most favorite partner in all the world, the United Kingdom, they might have control over the president because of the licensing fees sent to him by the state, by state TV. Then they go into a whole bunch of all of the Comey stuff.
	It just goes, this list, John, there must be 50 items on this.
	Whereas Trump has appointed his son-in-law Jared Kushner to serve as an envoy to foreign leaders despite having no diplomatic experience.
	Oh!
	Whereas the United States foreign policy has long been based on both our nation's interests as well as our values, including democracy, freedom of the press, and promotion of human rights.
	When speaking about Egyptian President Abel Fatih al-Sisi, President Trump said, We agree on so many things, I just want to let everyone know in case there was any doubt that we are much behind President al-Sisi.
	He's done a fantastic job in a very difficult situation.
	Whereas al-Sisi rose to power in a coup, and his country anti-government protests have been banned, freedom of press and freedom of religion have been repressed, some independent human rights groups have been banned.
	It just goes on and on and on and on.
	Our president is a dickhole!
	He's no good!
	Here.
	This is a congressional document.
	You know if they focus a little more.
	Wait, congressional document.
	June 29th.
	President Trump tweeted, I heard poorly rated at morning Joe speaks badly of me.
	I don't watch anymore.
	Then how come low IQ crazy Mika along with psycho Joe came to Mar-a-Lago three nights in a row around New Year's Eve and insisted on joining me.
	She was bleeding badly from a facelift.
	I said no.
	So they're putting his insult.
	Just everything is in here.
	A tweet.
	An insulting tweet?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Talk about...
	Brother.
	And then here.
	Winding it up, and I'll get to the resolve.
	On February 16th, President Trump said his 2016 election victory was, quote, the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan.
	Whereas Donald J. Trump received 304 electoral...
	Yes, lies!
	Barack Obama received more, 332.
	Bill Clinton, 379.
	George H.W. Bush, 426.
	Whereas when President Trump was presented with facts about the size of his predecessor's electoral victory margins at a press conference on February 16th, he responded, I don't know.
	I was given that information.
	Actually, I've seen that information around.
	Now, therefore, be it resolved.
	Right after that.
	After that last bit.
	So, he's a douche.
	He's nuts.
	He's a liar.
	He's taken money.
	It is therefore resolved that it is the sense of the House of Representatives that, one, based on the conduct described in the preamble, the House of Representatives has no confidence that President Trump is faithfully executing the office of the President of the United States.
	And, two, President Trump should release his tax returns.
	Places private business assets in a blind trust or to divest from them.
	Donate to the United States Treasury as he promised any personal gift he is...
	Well, there you go.
	He is made from foreign patrons of hotels in which he has an ownership interest.
	Refrain from taking any action that results in taxpayer money being spent on goods or services from businesses in which he has an ownership interest, such as Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, the Trump National Golf Course in Bedminster, New Jersey, and the Trump National Golf Course in Sterling, Virginia.
	Seek congressional consent for all and any emoluments that he has received from foreign countries.
	Refrain from using Twitter inappropriately, including refraining from posting comments that could adversely impact United States foreign policy.
	Wow!
	Shut up, slave!
	Can you believe that they have the balls to put that in a document?
	Refrain from using Twitter inappropriately.
	Support the First Amendment.
	Support freedom of the press.
	Refrain from calling reporting fake news.
	Refrain from posting video of himself wrestling with a press logo.
	And stop limiting full electronic press access to White House press briefings.
	This is insanity, John.
	That is borderline insanity.
	It is insanity, you're right.
	It's nuts.
	And he must unequivocally...
	Acknowledge that Russia interfered in the 2016 United States presidential election and work to protect our electoral process from any future foreign interference.
	Refuse any offer to form any kind of cybersecurity unit with the Russian government to purportedly protect the United States from election hacking.
	Respecting the independence of our nation's judicial branch.
	Respect members of Congress and refrain from using derogatory nicknames for them.
	Hell, you call me a bad name!
	You made a joke about me!
	And conduct United States foreign policy in a manner that reflects the United States traditional role as leader of the free world, which is typically going out there and killing people.
	So, please, get back to killing people the way we used to do it.
	Why make deals in Afghanistan?
	I mean, I don't know if you saw this, the President, someone, he read, you know, 4chan, and he's like, oh, there's a trillion dollars worth of minerals in Afghanistan.
	He immediately calls up the President over there and says, hey, we could probably do something with this.
	These minerals, these are good for iPhones and other things, and maybe you could, I don't know if he said this, but maybe you could stop, you know, making the drugs that are killing our kids.
	That's what he's doing.
	As opposed to, here we are, big swinging dick, we'll kill you.
	Because that's how we always do it.
	They want to get back to that.
	Yes, of course.
	A lot of money from the defense industry.
	This document shows you that all these people on this House resolution really have too much time on their hands.
	They are not doing the business of the people.
	No.
	No, it's mostly the Black Caucus.
	Well, Maxine Waters would be on here, then, wouldn't she?
	She is.
	Yeah, Ms.
	Maxine.
	Hey, Ms.
	Maxine.
	Yeah, Ms.
	Maxine.
	Isn't she married?
	It's probably Sheila Jackson Jones, whatever her name is.
	Sheila Jackson.
	Shirley Jones is on there.
	Shirley Jones is on there, sure.
	And that guy, Al Green.
	Al Green.
	Al Green, the singer.
	Shirley Jones, the actress.
	Maxine Waters, the actress.
	Well, those guys are spinning their wheels.
	I was listening to the Net Neutrality.
	Oh my goodness.
	And we have to go back and we have to talk about this again because people, they get hypnotized by all these groups that are funded by Google.
	IFTT, you know, Freedom for the Future.
	Yeah, Google is George Soros of Net Neutrality.
	Boom, boom, there you go.
	You finally made no agenda quotes.
	So we have...
	A couple of things.
	I've got three clips.
	And I just wanted...
	There's a subtext.
	And my favorite thing is...
	The whole panel of congressmen are all in on this.
	We've got to do net neutrality.
	We've got to do net neutrality.
	And the new FCC is in there with some guy named Pi who runs it now.
	He's kind of fast-talking.
	I don't even know what his ethnicity is.
	I can't tell.
	And then he could be Indian.
	He could be Filipino.
	He's just one of those...
	You can't tell.
	And you can't tell by his name either.
	And he doesn't really answer questions.
	He just kind of bumbles along.
	But I want to play these clips with it.
	And I want you to pay careful attention to the subtext of the questions and what's up the road ahead.
	Do we need to set the stage at all about net neutrality before we jump into this so people can at least understand what...
	You want to?
	You want to do that?
	Yeah, I think we should.
	If you start us off...
	Net neutrality, of course, is a discussion that started some time ago about Netflix.
	By the way, there's nothing that's happened that makes any of the net neutrality arguments valid.
	The Comcast isn't Slowing down your internet because of their...
	So they can make more money.
	If they're slowing it down...
	Okay, you're doing a horrible job.
	Stop.
	I'll tell you what's going on.
	What's going on is groups funded by...
	No longer Netflix, by the way.
	They're out.
	They got what they wanted.
	They're good to go.
	But it's still Amazon.
	It's still Google.
	It's going to be Facebook.
	It's a really big player's...
	Who shove more data than Netflix, believe me.
	There's so much data.
	And if you know how the internet was built with peering agreements, peerage agreements, or peering agreements, everyone manages their own network.
	And these companies want to ensure that there's some kind of legislation that they can't be dinged by these now rolled up networks.
	We have Time Warner, Comcast, and really huge networks.
	Huge ISPs instead of a whole collection of smaller ones.
	They see the writing on the wall of these guys and they say, well, you're pushing a lot of traffic our way, and we have routers that have to be upgraded, and so now you have to pay for it.
	That is what's going on.
	And they bring this in a very, very, very...
	convincing way that gets people all riled up about, well, but then, you know, I won't be able to watch my favorite YouTube podcast because they might be slowing it down for something else, some commercial stuff.
	And that is, everyone's been plagued.
	Which is why I wanted you to explain your position because you have the great beginning argument.
	I pick it up with, as far as I'm concerned, this is all about finding a way to let the government control the internet.
	And that is the ultimate conclusion, which I completely agree with.
	This is the long-term goal.
	The FCC in particular has seen a rise in cable TV, which they've wanted to get control of, and they have been unable to do that.
	They right now control broadcasting with their rules, so you can't cuss on a TV show, and you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't have this kind of program.
	They tell the journalists what they have to produce.
	Well, that's CBS. And AIDS. And everybody.
	Yeah.
	The point is that the FCC likes the idea of controlling the messaging that comes over the airwaves, and they'd love to do the same thing with cable TV, although they've never been able to manage that.
	But they have this opportunity to do it with the Internet.
	By getting the same...
	And I think their argument is somehow...
	I think it kind of works.
	Well, unlike cable, which is really just kind of a lockdown thing, you've got to subscribe to it.
	It's not like a free and open to everybody.
	So we can't get a handle on that.
	It's like we can't really...
	The FCC can't censor movies, for example, at the movie theater.
	They'd love to, but they can't.
	There used to be an operation that did that.
	There was.
	Didn't the ratings board?
	That's a version of it.
	There was a board that used to keep you from having tits, for example, on a movie.
	I don't like that word.
	Before the board came into existence in the early 20s, I'm sorry, early 30s and late 20s, there was a lot of breasts being shown floating around the movies.
	And you go, wow, look.
	And then no more.
	Can't have that anymore.
	Stop with the breasts.
	You are ruining and corrupting America.
	But the FCC is one of these regulatory agencies that likes to regulate.
	It's what they do.
	So what you want to listen for when you listen to these people talking about net neutrality is you want to listen to how much does the government really want to encroach or maybe even take over the internet.
	And it starts right away with this guy, and this is...
	This is Greg Walden.
	He's a Republican from Oregon.
	And this is an oversight subcommittee, but he's actually the head guy of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
	He's the chair.
	And he is a very powerful person.
	And just listen to the question he asks.
	This is Net Neutrality Basics Opening.
	Including Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, and Charter Communications, inviting each of them to come and testify before our full Energy and Commerce Committee.
	It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet and stop the ping-pong game of regulations and litigation.
	And make no mistake, given the importance of this public policy debate and the work we need to do as a committee, it is essential that we hear directly from the country's top internet and edge provider leaders who frequently speak out publicly about rules of the internet.
	It's time they came before us and directly shared their positions and answered our questions.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I think there's some subtext there.
	There's a little more than subtext, don't you think?
	Jeez, time to stop this.
	These series of tubes.
	That's the guy when he said, quote, it's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the internet.
	Boom shakalaka.
	Could it be any more clear to anybody out there listening?
	Podcast license.
	Podcast license.
	It's coming.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let's go to Net Neutrality Basics 2.
	This is interesting.
	And of course, Chairman Pius commenced a proceeding to examine returning regulation of the internet to the bipartisan framework that made it the economic engine that it is today.
	As we wait for this process to take its course, the future of the greatest economic engine of modern times is clouded with uncertainty, with a growing recognition that the time is now for legislative action.
	We offered a way forward on net neutrality in 2015.
	I believe now, as I did then, that we should work together to write bipartisan legislation to protect the Internet from bad actors who want to use their unfair advantage to block, throttle, or in other ways engage in bad behavior.
	The American people deserve no less.
	We stand ready to act.
	Yeah, and you'll recall the last time we went through this rigmarole with the net neutrality bullcrab debate.
	We read the proposed legislation which talked about illegal network traffic.
	Yeah.
	Which would be BitTorrent, which would be...
	Well, there could be tons of stuff.
	Anything that could possibly be stealing a movie.
	It's all about Hollywood.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The dark web.
	It boils down to stealing movies.
	Yes.
	Which is getting easier.
	Although, I have to say, if you look at...
	Most of the movies that steal have already been through the process and have long been on DVDs and the sales have dropped off.
	I have yet to find a good source of first-run movies still in the theaters available online.
	I just don't think it's out there.
	Send it to john at dvorak.org.
	Not to me.
	I pay for my entertainment.
	I do, too.
	I pay for my entertainment.
	I monitor this stuff.
	Although I did lie and I used the VPN and told the BBC that I had already paid my license fee to watch the SSRI special on Panorama.
	Do they ask you for your mailing code?
	No, they say you should register because pretty soon you're going to have to register.
	So of course you say, no, I'll do that later.
	And then it says, do you currently have a license?
	Yes or no?
	So they won't even let you watch their crap online if you don't have a license in London or wherever you are, supposedly in England?
	Yes.
	Jeez.
	Yes.
	Well, you're stealing content.
	I was.
	Now, then the one, they do ask this direct question, which I thought was...
	...was interesting, which is, this is a net neutrality direct question, and only one guy answers it honestly.
	The request is noted.
	Thank you.
	I now recognize the chairman of the full committee, Mr.
	Walden.
	Thank you, Chairman.
	Appreciate that.
	And again, to all our commissioners, thank you for enlightening us with your comments and your testimony.
	Chairman Pye, there's been talk of uncertainty, continued uncertainty, around the future of net neutrality.
	Are you opposed to net neutrality?
	Congressman, I've consistently said I favor free and open internet, as I think many members of this committee and most Americans do.
	Commissioner Clyburn, are you opposed to net neutrality?
	I am not opposed to net neutrality.
	I am in favor, but using the strongest legal tools at our disposal to uphold it.
	Commissioner O'Reilly, are you opposed to net neutrality?
	I agree with the chairman.
	I support an open internet.
	The term net neutrality means so many different things these days than it once did, so I can't have him signing up for net neutrality.
	The current definition means that every packet has to be treated identically, and that to me is not supported by the current activities of the internet.
	So I don't support that definition of net neutrality, no.
	Ah, very good, because that comes to your argument about telemedicine.
	Yeah, you can't have a guy being put in the back...
	Back on the back of the queue if he's operating on somebody from a distance?
	Well, you can if the House of Cards just came out.
	Screw you.
	Screw you.
	Screw you with your heart operation.
	We're watching House of Cards.
	Priority packets.
	Priority packets.
	So the last clip I have here is a very interesting one.
	It's a guy with, I don't know what he's got to chew on, but I was kind of confused by this and I had to go look up Edge Provider because Edge Provider to me Before the official definition came out by the FCC was always somebody like Akamai or these guys who operate on the edge of the internet.
	Yes, that was the marketing they used too, edge provider.
	I think that was a generally recognized term at the time.
	Yeah, but now it apparently doesn't mean that at all.
	Now it's a CDN. So let's play this clip.
	And this guy's got a question.
	I honestly believe he doesn't know what he's talking about.
	I'm talking about the congressman.
	I don't know if I wrote his name down.
	I think this is Mike Doyle in Pennsylvania.
	The analysis that you've cited about ISP investment seems to be one-sided.
	You talk about broadband investment by ISPs alone as an indication of the health of the marketplace.
	But you discount investments that are being made by edge providers.
	You know, if the thesis of an open internet order was to promote this virtuous cycle of investment and innovation online, why aren't you talking about edge providers, the investments that they're making, and the jobs that they're creating?
	I appreciate the question, Congressman.
	Obviously, everyone, as Chairman Blackburn pointed out, favors the free and open Internet.
	The great challenge, however, is that there are millions of Americans, and I've visited them from Wardensville, West Virginia, to Mission, South Dakota, are on the wrong side of the divide.
	They are not getting the access they need to be able to participate in the digital economy.
	And to the extent that these rules are impacting infrastructure investment, my fear is that those folks are going to be left out of some of the benefits that we get in terms of better education and health care and the like.
	That is a good conversation to have.
	I like that.
	Now the guy...
	Well, I don't think he answered the question.
	Well, of course not.
	Why would you do anything stupid like that?
	To say the least.
	That would be crazy.
	So what is an edge provider to you?
	An edge provider would be...
	Well, I think that it's...
	I agree with your original assessment.
	That's what we called...
	That's how we defined an edge provider previously.
	I would say these days, edge providers are being viewed as the content providers of the world.
	Pretty much.
	So it would be the...
	Okay, I'll read you the quote from the definition.
	Yes, YouTube, for example, is an edge provider.
	Now, the question on my mind to Doyle from Pennsylvania is, He's talking about edge providers making a difference in some...
	What is he talking about with that question?
	I don't think he knows what an edge provider is.
	Now, if he's talking about edge providers like YouTube in particular or Netflix, which have their own giant pieces of equipment that they install at the ISP, which has most of their content on that, on that gear.
	So they don't have to go to YouTube and ask for a clip and then bring it in to their servers and then serve it out to their customer.
	Instead, they have these appliances as they're doing.
	as they like to call them, which sit there and chew up and expensive to operate.
	But it makes everybody happy now.
	And I don't see, you know, OK, so that's, I guess, kind of beneficial.
	But the edge provider is, quote, any individual individual, by the way, here we go, any individual or entity that provides any content, any application or service over the Internet and any individual or entity that provides a device. any application or service over the Internet and any individual I am so happy about this.
	Finally!
	That provides a device used.
	John, don't you understand?
	The implication of this is huge.
	I can finally say, hi, nice to meet you.
	I'm Adam Curry, edge provider.
	You are.
	I'm an edge provider.
	Beautiful.
	But it also talks about these information appliances when it says device.
	Any individual or entity that provides a device used for accessing any content, that again is a device that sits on the ISP. So here's what happened.
	Here's how it went down.
	Originally we had the edge providers, which would be Akamai, I guess you could even say Cloudflare, Kind of like the relay stations.
	And what happened was that became very expensive to have your own CDN or your edge provider because those guys were just raping everybody with their 99th percentile bullcrap billing.
	Yeah, we all know how that works.
	A total math wizardry to just take money out of your pocket.
	And when you're funded by VC, who gives a crap?
	But at a certain point, your data is so intense, there's so much data, you have to move away.
	And I would say Amazon S3 is also, was a version of what we'd call an edge provider.
	And then they all come, well, how?
	But here's a genius idea.
	Why don't we put a box inside the three ISPs that are left in the United States, and we'll only have to deal with them.
	We're not really even going over the internet at all.
	just maybe we're doing that remotely to update the boxes with the most recent film or TV series, and then, you know, we make a deal directly with them.
	That's what the edge provider has now become.
	That big CDN has been placed in, I mean, how many data centers do you really need to have?
	A thousand, maybe a hundred?
	I mean, to cover all of the U.S. for sure.
	You don't have to, I don't think you have to do that much.
	And that is now, that's why they call any, and is this an FCC definition?
	I believe so Well, they're poorly informed.
	The definition comes from the rules.
	Yeah, but this is bad news.
	Let me continue reading.
	Those rules also expressly state that a broadband provider, quote, shall not unreasonably interfere with or unreasonably disadvantage edge providers' ability to make lawful content.
	Applications, services...
	I'm sorry, no agenda.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Your content's not lawful.
	We're sorry.
	Application services are devices available to end users.
	Under these rules, therefore, broadband providers appear to owe duties to every website or application on the entire internet.
	And this is new.
	I'll tell you what I'm reading from so you know.
	This is from an open internet order puts edge providers in the spotlight.
	This is an article in Law 360 by a lawyer named Christopher Savage.
	Edge providers were not always in such a privileged position.
	The agency's 2005 internet policy statement did not mention edge providers at all.
	the rights of consumers to access content of their choice.
	Moreover, in part because it was framed as a statement of policy rather than a set of rules, the policy statement's key provisions were framed in the passive voice.
	The agency does not require or forbid broadband providers or anyone else to do anything in particular.
	Instead, the policy statement repeatedly declares that consumers are entitled to various things, leaving the question of from whom they are entitled to receive the stated benefits of I know, I get it.
	This is very tricky.
	Very tricky because this way, by saying we want the edge providers to come and talk to us.
	Well, let me just check my email.
	I don't think I received an email as a premier edge provider.
	I'm pretty sure, according to their definition.
	No.
	Instead, they invited Google, Facebook, get the sub guy or gal from YouTube, Spotify.
	They're going to bring in all the douches.
	The big boys.
	This is for the big boys.
	Yeah.
	This isn't for anybody.
	It's like the guy says, the consumer orientation is over.
	It's about edge providers.
	That's right.
	Doyle from Pennsylvania was promoting edge providers.
	Yeah.
	So it's about YouTube.
	So so if you've got some little competitor, a small like voodoo or one of these guys that competes, for example, with Netflix, who doesn't even care anymore because they own the place, You're screwed!
	I just gotta tell, VoidZero, listen to me for a second, he's been very helpful posting in the back channel, but now he's in the main chat.
	This is not about, because he's like, that's not what an edge provider is.
	It's like CloudFlare, and there's different reasons.
	The whole point, this is why it's important that I stop and say this, They're changing the definition on purpose.
	It is a lie.
	They are changing it in order to pretty much legislate everything.
	So they're just saying, oh yes, the edge providers are now people who provide content.
	And the true edge providers are of course Facebook and Google, etc.
	So you're correct.
	It is a poor definition.
	It is wrong.
	But they're doing it with a very specific reason.
	And a lot of people are falling lockstep right in line with this.
	I'm looking at all you tech horny podcasters.
	We need net neutrality, otherwise we'll be cut off.
	The problems will be much bigger than what you think.
	And I want to go back And remind people what was said by the chairman guy when he says, the Congress must legislate the rules of the Internet.
	Now, this is going to be an evergreen.
	Let's just play it again.
	Including Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, and Charter Communications, inviting each of them to come and testify before our full Energy and Commerce Committee.
	And by the way, Energy and Commerce Committee?
	What an interesting committee to have to talk about content to.
	Yeah.
	It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the internet.
	Boom!
	Boom, boom!
	I gotta ISO that, man.
	That's just too good.
	Yeah.
	And that's Walden, the head of that committee.
	He's the guy from Oregon.
	It's time for Congress to just go ahead and legislate the internet.
	Yeah.
	Now, I want to remind people, including Void Zero and everybody else, that this was exactly what people were bitching about Twenty years ago when the internet first started, and it's in the 90s, in the mid to late 90s.
	Oh my god, we can't let the government get any involvement whatsoever.
	They should be kept out.
	Internet and edge provider.
	It's time they came before us.
	Where was it?
	Back in the beginning?
	No, no, it's right in the beginning.
	Here it is.
	Right there.
	It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet.
	Boom.
	Okay, hold on.
	And...
	Copy.
	We paste.
	Kaboom.
	And then I say Congress, legislature.
	Legislate.
	The internet.
	And I say, and before you play it, I think the bit goes like this.
	Hey, Adam!
	Hold on, John.
	I'm not quite ready with my ISO. Okay.
	Where'd it go?
	You always do that, where did it go?
	Yeah, where did it go?
	Well, I mean that.
	Where the hell did it go?
	Oh, here it is.
	Okay.
	Yeah, John.
	What's up?
	Hey, Adam.
	Yeah.
	What time is it?
	It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the internet.
	Oh, such childish humor, but I love it.
	Very good.
	I'm keeping that one at the ready.
	We just need to play that at the drop of a hat.
	We'll need it.
	Indeed.
	Perfect.
	So there you go.
	I think it couldn't be any more clear what's going on, but okay.
	It's going to happen anyway.
	At this point, it's unstoppable.
	And one of the things that kept coming up in this discussion was 12.5 million people wrote in, and what do you think they all said?
	We've got to protect the internet.
	We need net neutrality.
	12.5 million, that's a lot of notes.
	And all those people came in with, yes, yes, yes, this is what we should do, and what it amounts to is it's time for Congress to legislate the internet.
	And you go back 10 years, and this was the worst thing that you could possibly imagine happening.
	It would be a disaster if that happened, and yet now everybody's demanding it.
	Do you know what time it is?
	Wow.
	John, do you know what time it is?
	What time?
	Less than ten minutes to go.
	Okay, I'm going to show myself the world by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	And we do have a few people to thank.
	I tricked you.
	Not a lot, but enough.
	Um, Michael, uh, Matt Aloni in Chicago.
	He's become a knight.
	$140 in Chicago.
	He sent a note email-wise, but we will knight him.
	It's that simple.
	All right.
	Beautiful.
	I'll see if the note has anything.
	Well, I have his name.
	So you had a note somewhere.
	He wants to be Sir Phenom of Patriots Nation.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, okay.
	That's what we needed in the note.
	Sir Stuart Morrison, $123.45.
	An Australian.
	He's going to be in L.A. I'd like to hear from No Agenda producers, if you could.
	And he's at Stewie6, S-T-E-W-I-6 on Instagram, at Stewie6.
	Anyone in L.A.? Nobody will respond to these things, by the way.
	Bradford Scott Ramsey, $111.33.
	And now we have our $95 celebration.
	You can blow the horn as I read these names.
	The 12 people who felt that $95 would help us celebrate.
	Paul Hobbs in Lynch's Creek, New South Wales, Australia.
	Natalia Lobko.
	I don't know where she's from.
	Douglas Chick.
	95 bucks, I think.
	Sir Brad Doherty, our buddy in Venture City, New Jersey, 95.
	Jason Albrey in Foreman, Arkansas.
	This is so pathetic.
	Happy 9.50, John.
	Jason Aubrey, Antonio Sanchez Godenez in Madrid.
	Spain, always a good show from the best podcast in the universe.
	95 bucks, at least Madrid came in.
	Sir Geronimos in Wageningen.
	Wageningen.
	Wageningen.
	And by the way, he's in Holland.
	Sir Daniel Ehrlich in Bowlesburg, Pennsylvania.
	Sir Pat Deary in Sarnia, Ontario.
	Sir Christoph the Cantankerous.
	And last but not least, two more, Colin Cunningham and Dame Karen of Cimarron Hills in Colorado Springs.
	That's a group.
	Hey, good group.
	Short?
	Short but sweet.
	But the ones who did donate for $9.50, I feel loved.
	Yes, and we thank you all.
	Profusely.
	A lot of people, you know, they save up for episodes like that, and I appreciate it.
	Yeah.
	Andy Kluber came in with a boob in Terre Haute, Indiana, and he just says sanity.
	Rob Miller, boob.
	And he's got a birthday coming up for Dog Biscuits.
	All right.
	Sir Rob of the Dog Biscuits, not Rob Miller.
	Sir Rob of the Dog Biscuits, it's heading to see the Olympic Games.
	By the way, the Olympic Game Farm is hilarious.
	What is that?
	And there are numerous times...
	What is the Olympic Game Farm?
	The Olympic Game Park is like a trip into the woods or into Africa.
	And so you take your car and you drive around this dirt road and there's grizzly bears begging for food and...
	You know, sitting on their butts and waving.
	It's really strange, I'll tell you.
	I'm just reading the rest of the note here.
	A real dude named Ben here was both the name and the profession to match.
	That's Rob Miller.
	That's different.
	That's his second boob.
	Oh, I'm sorry, boob too.
	No, this is the same boob.
	Oh, no, that's the same guy.
	I'm sorry, you're right.
	No, I'm wrong.
	No, it's Benjamin underneath.
	I'm sorry, my mistake.
	Well, I'll read Benjamin's then.
	Okay, Benjamin.
	A real dude named Ben here was both the name and profession to match.
	I'm not normally a numerology guy, but I was listening to episode 9 and 49er thinking I have to donate $77.77 for a fertility blessing for my wife and I who are shooting, no pun intended, for our first child.
	A few minutes later during the second donation segment, a gentleman by the name of Ben Blessing donated $77.77.
	It was a sign I needed to finally rid myself of douchebag status and donate.
	I'm not sure if you guys have a ready-made jingle for a fertility blessing, but I would appreciate something along those lines.
	Well, first of all, I just want to de-douch you.
	You've been de-douched.
	People don't know that you actually are one of those guys that you have some kind of, you know, you have these powers, and usually if you're in their presence, you can say, oh, yes, no, you'll be pregnant soon.
	And you can even tell them what they're going to have.
	So I think you should do that for Ben.
	Yeah, he'll be pregnant with a girl.
	Okay, good.
	Done.
	You watch.
	Now, Ben Blessing, that's an interesting coincidence that triggered him.
	Interesting.
	I like it.
	Alright, onward.
	Doug Cook, $73.
	Parts Unknown.
	KX5DC, 73s.
	73s.
	Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	Sir Tony, Jedi Knight of the Coders.
	You skipped the anonymous lesbian.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I did.
	She's back.
	Sorry, anonymous lesbian.
	Oh, I got a note from her.
	She's back.
	She sent a sweet note.
	Wouldn't it be funny if Ben got pregnant after your blessing?
	Yes, I don't think he'd think so.
	She sent it on the back of a piece of sheet music.
	Dear John and Adam, July 11th.
	Here is what will end up being a delayed birthday donation for myself.
	Listening to episode 945 and hearing that you know several fabulous women, quote unquote, born on July 11th, motivated me to send in a check and let you know that 7-Eleven is also my birthday.
	That must be why you both like me so much.
	Life is crazy as I am moving from Scandinavia to New York City.
	Wow, quite a move.
	But I am still supporting the show with a subscription and one day I am to be the anonymous lesbian dame of the stage of Carnegie Hall.
	Yes.
	A girl can dream.
	Thank you for your courage, anonymous lesbian.
	Thank you and good to hear you again, A.L. Yeah, she's been laying low because she's got a subscription we don't normally, and she doesn't send us notes.
	Sir Tony, Jedi Knight of the Coders, $66.66.
	And now we've already gotten to our $50 donors, and we're going to just read them off, name and location.
	James Butcher in Dalwinu, Dalwinu.
	What is this?
	I don't know how to pronounce it.
	It's Washington.
	No, no, it's not Washington.
	It's Australia.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	I guess Western Australia.
	Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsborough, Oregon.
	Wine country.
	Joe Schwartz Bauer in Florissant, Missouri.
	Philip Mison, Sir Philip to you, 50.
	Jose Ferreira in Newbury, Berkshire, UK.
	Louis Pastor.
	Al Pastor is his brother.
	Miami, Florida.
	Niels Bonnaker in Hamburg, parts unknown, Hamburger, Hamburg, Deutschland, one of the What am I thinking?
	Sir Peter Totes in Sugarland, Texas.
	Jeffrey Zelen in Oakland, Michigan.
	And Sir Gadget Virtuoso in Texas.
	And last but not least, Sir Alan Bean, our friend and pal over here in Oakland, California, who's been sending in checks since day one.
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	The 95s are very nice.
	Thank you for those of you that participated in our celebration with our pathetic horns.
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	Sir Tony says happy birthday to his twins.
	June 27th was their birthday.
	And let me see.
	June 27th, his wife and I, July 31st and 30th.
	Wow, he's got a lot of birthdays.
	Congratulations.
	Anonymous lesbian, she celebrated on July 11th.
	Then we have Janet from Brentwood, July 27th to be today.
	Happy birthday.
	Mike Madaloni, 50 on July 20th, 28th.
	Colin Cunningham says happy birthday to Mariella, 28th on the 28th.
	Sir Tony, there we go, to his wife on July 31st.
	Sir Tony himself celebrating on July 30th.
	And Rob Miller, happy birthday to Sir Rob of the Dog Biscuits from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Happy birthday, yes!
	All right.
	Two nightings then today of significance.
	Sounds good.
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	I did find something of value on the Reddits.
	Huh?
	I did, yes.
	Really?
	Yep.
	Well, actually, someone sent me an email and said, you know, sometimes it's good stuff.
	Look what I posted.
	And it was in answer to my question about, you know, what's up with the Kagans?
	What are all these guys doing?
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	What happened to the Kagans?
	Well, I mean, they're not quitting.
	No.
	Grant Greenwell don't raff.
	I wrote a pretty good article on that $250 million WordPress blog, and they have created a new think tank called the Alliance for Securing Democracy.
	And this is very interesting because it's Democrats and neocons together.
	Now, were the original douchebag neocons, weren't they kind of all in the Democrat Party to begin with in the 70s?
	They were communists.
	They were Marxist-type radicals in the 70s, yes.
	And they...
	But they couldn't get anything accomplished.
	And so they slowly decided to change the way they approached things and became the neoconservatives, because they were kind of conservative back then anyway, and joined the Republican Party and kind of took it over, dominating the Bush administration for sure.
	Well, now they're all back together.
	And by the way, since Hillary, I believe, was very part and parcel of...
	I mean, this group, you know, they've kind of crossed borders.
	They're bi.
	So they got people like Hillary, to me, is a classic example of someone who supports the neocons as a neocon.
	And so when Trump comes in and he comes up and kind of...
	Pushes back on the whole neocon group.
	And it doesn't take Koch brothers.
	And Koch brothers, you push back on them.
	So Koch brothers are out of the picture.
	The United Citizens United didn't affect the election at all.
	So they're out of the picture.
	And the neocons were out of the picture.
	So they're all out of the picture.
	They're trying to regroup.
	Yeah.
	Well, they're all getting back together.
	And it's all under the GMF, which is the...
	The German Marshall Fund of the United States.
	And it falls under this Alliance for Securing Democracy moniker.
	Lauren Rosenberger is the main staff.
	She's director for the Alliance for Securing Democracy.
	And she's a senior fellow at this think tank, Jamie Fly.
	I don't know who he was.
	National Security Affairs advisor to Marco Rubio.
	Now let's go look at the very important advisory council.
	Mike Chertoff.
	We all know him, of course.
	U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security, 2005-2009.
	Tomas Hendrik Ilves, who was the President of the Republic of Estonia.
	Then we have some guy from International Public Affairs.
	That's interesting, the Estonian guy.
	Well, it's to bring in the European Union.
	During his presidency, Ilves, I think, was appointed to serve in several high positions in the field of information and communication technology in the European Union.
	Previously served as Minister of Foreign Affairs, as the Ambassador of the Republic of Estonia to the United States and Scandinavia.
	Also a member of Estonian Parliament, as well as a member of the European Parliament.
	And there's a reason for it when you hear what their mission statement is.
	Okay.
	Then we have David J. Kramer.
	He's the Florida International University System.
	Bill Kristol, biggest neocon there is.
	Mike Morrell, total Democrat, acting director of Central Intelligence Agency.
	Mike McFaul.
	He's a long-term Obama administration.
	What was he?
	First Special Assistant to the President?
	Senior Director?
	I think you mispronounced Morell's full name.
	It's Mike Morell, right?
	Right?
	Right?
	Exactly.
	One inside joke for the listeners.
	But then we go from those guys to Mike Rogers, total right-wing stooge.
	Let me see, Julie Smith, Deputy National Security Advisor to the U.S. Vice President from 2012-2013, so Democrat.
	Jake Sullivan, another Obama guy.
	Nicole Wong, she was the Chief Technology Officer for the Obama Administration.
	So they're all together, John.
	The neocons with a lot of top Democrats, certainly Obama Democrat team members.
	And here's the mission statement.
	You're going to love it.
	What do you think they are in this whole group, all these people?
	They're together.
	We finally have, you know, they found a new home.
	They're all going to be together in this with the Democrats, with the Hillary Democrats.
	Single malt scotches.
	No.
	Mission statement.
	In 2016, American democracy came under unprecedented attack.
	The government of the Russian Federation attempted to weaken the pillars of our democracy and undermine faith and confidence in our society's most fundamental right, the ability to choose our own leaders.
	So they're basing this entire operation on a false premise.
	You bet.
	Wow.
	The effort was the own was only the latest of Russia's repeated and ongoing efforts to undermine democratic institutions and influence free and democratic elections throughout Europe.
	Its success has led Vladimir Putin to conclude that disruption is effective and comes with little consequence.
	These assaults employ offensive weapons to attack and weaken democracy.
	Putin's Russia is seeking to harm the national security of the United States and our democratic allies and weaken us as nations by striking at our core strength, the strength that enables us to protect and advance our interests and prosperity.
	These efforts are particularly insidious because they seek to use our greatest strength, our openness, against us in order to undermine our democracy.
	So do you think maybe just going to a straight paper ballot would change everything?
	I would recommend it.
	Seems like the thing to do.
	Yeah, I think that should be someone should introduce a bill.
	But I'll bet you these idiots are also promoting internet voting.
	It's not in their mission statement.
	Let me see.
	So it's all about...
	The alliance will forge partnerships across the Atlantic with political leaders, policy makers, like-minded institutions, and technical experts to address the urgent needs to secure our democracies, create a common understanding of the techniques used to undermine democracies, and share lessons learned about effective defensive and deterrent strategies.
	Yeah, so they can sell all their shit to everybody.
	Finally, we'll analyze emerging technological and societal trends to identify areas of vulnerability to the eventual challenge from other state and non-governmental actors who may attempt to replicate these tactics.
	Copycats.
	By analyzing what Russia is doing today, the project will develop a shared playbook with recommendations for democratic leaders about how democracy can better safeguard tomorrow.
	How about that, huh?
	A borderline drinking club.
	I think you may have been right with my single mouth scotch.
	I think you are right.
	There's more drinking clubs, such as...
	I think a lot of these drinking clubs, so these guys stay in contact with each other, so when they come up with a really good scam, they can get in on it.
	I just don't think this is it.
	Anyway, let me see what I have.
	Let's do a little bit of EU news.
	There's stuff that is not being covered in the United States, and Tina and I left just in time.
	Curious onlookers survey the scene of total devastation after wildfires broke out overnight in southern France.
	French authorities ordered the evacuation of 10,000 people as fires jumped around the Riviera for a third day.
	Most of those evacuated were residents who were given shelter in local gymnasiums.
	We were well received.
	They offered food, but we had no appetite.
	We took a few belongings quickly.
	We closed the house and we left.
	We were afraid for our house.
	The blaze was the latest of several wind-whipped fires that are threatening residential areas on a peninsula west of Saint-Tropez, destroying more than 5,000 hectares of land and injuring over 20 rescue workers.
	The situation now appears to be under control at La Croix Valmer in the VAR region and at Artigues, but not far from Marseille, a new blaze is threatening the village of Caro.
	In Corsica, fires have destroyed more than 2,000 hectares of scrubland and a new water-dropping plain has arrived on the island.
	So this got no traction, but it will, and I can guarantee you it's going to happen, but it didn't get any traction because the only celebrity who had to flee her home was Joan Collins.
	Just not relevant anymore, sadly for her, because her home was about to burn down.
	But this weekend is the big Retardo DiCaprio celebrity get-together to save the world.
	Did you say retarded DiCaprio?
	No, Leonardo.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I said Leonardo DiCaprio.
	You know, everyone will be there.
	And there'll be tons of coverage of the fires.
	Yes, you're right.
	Yeah, you can just wait for it.
	You can just wait for it.
	Anyway, wish everyone well with that.
	And we're not going to do rain sticks because the French never donate.
	Here is...
	What is this?
	Oh, yes.
	The latest from the UK. Sales of new diesel and petrol cars will be banned in Britain from 2040, the government has announced, as it looks to improve the country's worsening air quality.
	The move follows a similar pledge from the French government earlier this month, and will see over £250 million divided amongst local authorities to help them tackle rising nitrogen dioxide levels.
	I think it's critically important that local and central government work together.
	Local government will know what's the right solution and each individual city affected, but central government is there with the money and the expertise to help.
	The scheme marks a shift away from traditional cars across Europe, with the mayors of Paris, Madrid and Athens vowing to ban all diesel vehicles from their city centres by 2025.
	And it's not just the politicians who are trying to make the world a greener place.
	Various car manufacturers are heading down the same road, with BMW unveiling its new electric Mini, and Volvo having recently announced that its car catalog will be entirely electric, or hybrid electric, by 2019.
	You know, I gotta tell you, last night we lost power.
	For several hours.
	I mean, I couldn't do any prep work, just on our phones is all we had.
	And this is not typical for a high-rise building.
	And when you're on the 29th floor, you're like, I really don't like this.
	But I don't want to be stuck in an elevator or not have to walk down or worse, walk up.
	And you notice, I mean, because we were about to sit down and watch some TV. You know, we always like scan from Tucker to Pooper to Rachel, scan around.
	And it goes on.
	You're completely dead.
	And I'm thinking, yeah, and how about charging your electric car?
	I mean, it seems like such a dumb idea to have everybody in electric vehicles.
	What is the number one thing that we're always worried about?
	The grid, the grid, the grid.
	The grid, oh, oh, it's so vulnerable.
	The grid, oh, if they get the grid, oh, if there's an EMP, the grid.
	Yet everyone, oh, I want a battery car, which I charge from the grid.
	I don't understand it.
	That's a good point.
	I don't understand it.
	And I want a diesel.
	And that's the first thing they're getting rid of is the diesels.
	Because a diesel you can pretty much urinate in the tank and it'll run.
	You can put all kinds of stuff.
	You can put just salad oil in a diesel.
	Yeah, you can put anything in the diesel that's going to run.
	Yeah, okay, maybe.
	But you don't even want a petrol, gasoline-fired car.
	You want a diesel.
	And that's the one that is, oh, nasty diesels, get out of here!
	That's the ones they're getting rid of first.
	If I wasn't a conspiracy theorist, I'd say there's something up with that, and we shouldn't be so stupid.
	Well, that and the self-driving element, which is also in play.
	Now, I do have a self-driving car clip that kind of follows on.
	Okay.
	But I want you to guess.
	This is on CBS. I'm convinced that this is native advertising.
	Oh, I'm sure.
	CBS? Okay.
	Well, CBS is always ABC with me, but I got this on CBS, and I'm thinking, it looks like, I'm sorry, a native to me.
	You can kind of guess who it is.
	Wow.
	Here in the United States, car companies are racing to get self-driving cars on the highways.
	But what are the new rules of the road?
	As Chris Van Cleve reports, federal regulators are lagging behind.
	Starting next year, a largely autonomous Audi hits the highways.
	This fall, students at the University of Michigan will be hopping on this driverless bus across campus.
	Carmakers are promising mass-market fully self-driving vehicles by 2021, and tech companies like Uber and Google could deploy them much sooner.
	California is already readying its roads, replacing raised lane markers with six-inch thick solid lines because they're easier for self-driving cars to see.
	But what's not ready are the rules.
	Scott Keogh from Audi.
	So I think we need definitions.
	We need the government and the states to set laws that are all united and unified around this.
	And there needs to be a little bit less PT Barnumism when everyone's throwing around these terms.
	Right now, only 23 states in the District of Columbia have laws on the books about self-driving cars.
	As this technology gets out on the road, we want to make sure it is safe, that it truly is ready for prime time.
	The concept behind this bill is to try and create some certainty, some clarity, so that people know what those rules are going to be.
	That could happen in the coming days.
	Republican Senator John Thune and Democrat Gary Peters plan to present rare bipartisan legislation setting standards for safety, cybersecurity, and guidelines to determine accident liability if no one's driving.
	Do you feel real deadline pressure, then, to get this done?
	It's only a matter of time, and that horizon is coming very quickly at us.
	And I think we have to be prepared for that.
	Hopefully we can all get around the fact that this is incredibly exciting technology that's going to save literally tens of thousands of lives.
	Or create them.
	Our self-driving car created 10,000 new people because we didn't have to drive.
	We were in the back seat.
	Yeah, this is clearly a native ad for Audi, the Volkswagen group.
	Who only in March announced its new subsidiary called the Autonomous Intelligent Driving.
	That's just what it's called, AID. And it will work for the entire Volkswagen group, which is Audi, Porsche, Volkswagen, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, and Seat and Skoda.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	They have their own...
	They want to compete.
	They're ready to rock.
	They are.
	It's kind of frightening, though, that the technology of self-driving cars is so pathetic that you have to have bigger lines so they can see where not to drive off the road.
	Yeah, I did not like that.
	No, of course not.
	That's crazy.
	It's not nice at all.
	Well, since you did that, you little tech news...
	I'm not going to play the jingle, but I figure we might as well play the tech news that's passing as tech news and mock it.
	How does that sound?
	Okay.
	Yeah?
	Let's start with a...
	Well, this is kind of tech news.
	AncestryDNA.com.
	Have you seen these commercials?
	Yes, I have.
	I find them to be creepy.
	Listen to what this woman does here.
	They're Hispanic.
	So when I got my AncestryDNA results, it was a shocker.
	I'm everything.
	I'm from all nations.
	I would look at forms now and wonder, what do I mark?
	Because I'm everything.
	And I marked other.
	Discover the story only your DNA can tell.
	Order your kit now at AncestryDNA.com.
	This is fantastic.
	It's exactly what I predicted.
	23andMe, AncestryDNA.com, all a part of making you feel like you're part of one big world, no nations, no borders.
	We're all the same people, so I just mark myself as other.
	And Ancestry.com and AncestryDNA.com I believe are owned by the Mormon Church.
	I believe so.
	Who add that to the world's biggest database of people.
	Yeah, they're doing a good job.
	Yes, they are the Google.
	They truly are Google.
	Now this, I just love this commercial.
	We know that Amazon, they bid on Whole Foods, and everyone's all speculating.
	What are they going to do?
	What are they going to use these?
	Are they going to keep the business going?
	What will they do?
	A very interesting deal, by the way.
	I saw that Whole Foods came out with great numbers for their quarter, which makes the acquisition even more expensive.
	Just crazy.
	So here is the Amazon Go, which is what you can expect.
	This is their own commercial.
	You can expect them to do, because this is opening up in Seattle, and it seems like this is what they will have, what will be going on at Whole Foods.
	Pretty much no people.
	So I can explain it, and then I want you to hear the commercial.
	So you walk in, you have a QR code on your phone, you scan it, just like you're going through, you know, some airport terminals, you know, even like your boarding card, you scan it, you go in, and then you just take anything you want and put it in your bag.
	The minute you take it off the shelf, it knows that you took it, then it adds it to your shopping cart, you know, to your bill before you sign out.
	It doesn't know you took it.
	You're going to hear some of the technology.
	Dude, machine learning, okay?
	This is the whole point of this clip.
	And then you walk out, so I'm sure it's done with Bluetooth and near-field technology, etc.
	But the way they make it sound is very different.
	Four years ago, we started to wonder.
	What would shopping look like if you could walk into a store, grab what you want, and just go?
	What if we could weave the most advanced machine learning, computer vision, and AI?
	Whoa!
	Machine learning, computer vision, and AI. John, can we weave that?
	Yeah, I think so.
	And AI into the very fabric of a store, so you never have to wait in line.
	No lines, no checkouts, no registers.
	No people!
	Welcome to Amazon Go.
	Walhalla!
	Use the Amazon Go app to enter.
	And put away your phone and start shopping.
	Shop!
	Shop!
	It's really that simple.
	Yay!
	Take whatever you like.
	Anything you pick up is automatically added to your virtual cart.
	Get ready for it.
	If you change your mind about that cupcake, just put it back.
	Oh.
	Our technology will update your virtual cart automatically.
	Dynamite.
	So, how does it work?
	How does it work?
	We used computer vision deep learning algorithms.
	Write it down.
	This is for a column.
	Computer vision deep learning algorithms.
	And sensor fusion.
	Oh, wait.
	I'm sorry.
	I've got to get the whole sequence.
	Here we go.
	How does it work?
	So, how does it work?
	We used computer vision, deep learning algorithms, and sensor fusion, much like you'd find in self-driving cars.
	Centrifusion.
	I'm going to go shop.
	Thank God Amazon's providing me with some centrifusion.
	Otherwise, it would be very difficult.
	At sensor fusion, much like you'd find in self-driving cars, we call it Just Walk Out Technology.
	Just Walk Out Technology, or JWAT. These people are crazy.
	So what happens when, let's say, 50 inner-city youths decide they're just going to go in and take everything out of the place?
	So they go barreling in as a group, grab what they can, and leave with like half the store.
	Amazon security will swoop down on you with a drone.
	But what happens if you go in there and you just knock over a whole display and it busted up all over the place?
	Since there's nobody working there to clean it up.
	I'm sorry.
	I am here to help you clean up the mess.
	I am Amazon robot.
	The next guy comes by and slips on it.
	And he sues the store.
	I mean, this has got disaster written all over it.
	This is totally in line with what everybody is saying about carbon emissions.
	Or I should say carbon dioxide emissions, is we need less people.
	It's going to be great.
	Get rid of those people who used to work at the Whole Foods, the baggers.
	Just get rid of everybody, the people who know about the cheese.
	I don't want to talk to them.
	I'm sure there'll be some screen that can tell me what cheese is best for my muscles.
	Get rid of all that.
	You know, the funny thing is that Whole Foods, which I don't really think much of the store, they have a good selection of certain kinds of things.
	And they have a checkout system that's pretty efficient.
	I don't really have to...
	I don't see myself waiting in long lines to get out of there.
	Because what they're selling this as is, oh, no lines.
	Oh, my God!
	No lines!
	I'm just breezing in, breezing out.
	No lines!
	No, the story should be Wouldn't it be great if we had a business with no annoying employees?
	Yeah, that would be great.
	I know.
	Let's buy a really big brand and get rid of all the annoying employees.
	Your number one deficit on your balance sheet.
	Yeah.
	But I just liked all the technology they were deploying.
	I mean, it doesn't seem...
	The kinds of stuff we've never heard of.
	And by the way, when our fragile grid goes down, how about your Amazon Go now?
	That's the time the 50 inner-city utes can go barreling into the place.
	Hey, we tried to pay.
	Yeah, shit, I'll be in there.
	Amazon Go, Go, Go!
	Love it.
	You could actually go in there when the grid goes down.
	You go in there, you flash your little...
	You could do your cue code to the thing.
	It's not going to see it.
	You're going to think you did it.
	You're not going to...
	Whatever.
	You grab much stuff, you leave.
	And of course, you won't use any money.
	They'll be virtual.
	Just invisible money.
	It's beautiful, this world we're going towards.
	Well, I have...
	If we're talking about technology of sorts, I have a mobile phone story since we should be talking about phones all the whole show.
	Okay.
	Here's an interesting one.
	Washington law, this is a new law on mobile phones and even eating.
	And the Spokesman Review of Spokane says Washington state drivers may no longer hold electronic devices.
	The tougher new law forbids using devices when stopped in traffic.
	Exceptions will be made for emergency calls.
	First-time offenders will be fined $136.
	The law also cracks down on distractions like eating or applying makeup.
	Okay, so we have this law.
	You can't eat a burger in the car in Washington State anymore.
	We have this law in Austin, which is the note, and even if you're stopped in traffic, you cannot touch your phone.
	$400.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	The eating thing is new, though.
	I like that.
	Have you read the law?
	Have you looked at it?
	Not yet, but I know it's dumb, and it's because if you stopped or pulled over or whatever, you should be able to go on your phone.
	I'm reminded of my one-time story I've told before.
	I'm in Brazil taking TAM Airlines.
	Is this when the hooker robbed you?
	No, this is a different story.
	Okay.
	I'm in TAM Airlines and we're parked at the gate.
	They're loading passengers.
	And I open my laptop to do a little work while we're waiting for the plane to be loaded.
	The stewardess comes over and she says, Sir, you cannot use that laptop on the plane.
	I said, Why?
	She says she's only allowed after you're at 10,000 feet.
	So the plane is parked.
	But I can't use it because the rule is you can only use a laptop after 10,000 feet.
	Right.
	This is idiotic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's kind of what we're dealing with here.
	Well, that law, that's now gone.
	I mean, we all had that problem back in the day.
	Yeah, don't...
	No, this was recently.
	Oh, like, I thought this was years ago.
	This was just...
	It wasn't that long ago.
	It was during the period where, yeah, you could use...
	Everyone lets you...
	You can use your laptop when you're parked.
	Your plane's not going anywhere.
	It's when it takes off, you're supposed to close it down.
	That's the rules, Mr.
	DeBarack.
	You should follow the rules.
	Alright.
	I have one last dumb story.
	It was a big story.
	And I just, the dumbness is all I wanted to point out.
	Maybe the end, or the beginning of the end, for a core part of the Windows operating system.
	That got my attention.
	A core part of the Windows operating system is going to be removed.
	John, did you not hear about this?
	Is this the column I just wrote about Microsoft Paint?
	Yes.
	It's a core part of the Microsoft Windows operating system.
	Who would call it that?
	Douchebags!
	Maybe the end, or the beginning of the end, for a core part of the Windows operating system.
	Microsoft says it will no longer update the Paint program.
	Starting with the fall update to Windows 10, the software giant was quick to say Paint isn't going away.
	It will still be available as a free download.
	Paint had been part of Windows since the first version in 1985.
	Now, just, I want to hold this for a second, then I want you to respond.
	Um...
	So now this guy is going to be incredibly ageist towards his co-host.
	It seems like she's the exact same age as him.
	But in general, just being a dick.
	Since the first version in 1985.
	Yeah.
	Do you remember Paint?
	Absolutely.
	I love Paint.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Like you log on to your AOL account and be like, oh, I'm going to use Windows Paint.
	Check and update your MySpace page.
	Wow.
	Nice.
	She does a modem sound.
	That was pretty good.
	I liked the modem.
	I liked it.
	Good modem sound.
	Yeah, you wrote a column about this.
	Yeah, I did.
	I got to use the old joke.
	This is a setup joke.
	You use it once in a while.
	I mean, you use this.
	This is a classic setup joke where you go.
	So I understand that Microsoft Paint is being taken out of Windows.
	I was stunned.
	I was shocked.
	I didn't know that it was still available.
	I mean, that's kind of the way that joke works.
	Anyway, I have one.
	It does.
	It was a setup joke.
	It has to be structured.
	Do you have like a fun end?
	Because I got one thing we have to do about Poland.
	I have a fun end.
	Okay, let me do Poland and then you'll end it up, okay?
	Okay.
	Right?
	Right.
	The EU's given Poland one month to allay its concerns over judicial reform plans.
	The prospect of Polish politicians firing and replacing judges prompted the ultimatum, Warsaw risks punishment for not respecting common laws and values.
	The commission recommends the Polish authorities to solve all the problems identified within one month.
	The commission's recommendation asks...
	This is Franz Timmermans, by the way, the vice president of the council, and he's literally saying, you must have this within one month!
	...solve all the problems identified within one month.
	The commission's recommendation asks the Polish authorities not to take any measure to dismiss or force the retirement of Supreme Court judges.
	If such a measure is taken, the Commission is ready to immediately trigger the Article 7-1 procedure.
	The ruling right-wing law and justice party is determined to press ahead with its reforms, but the most controversial part governing Supreme Court nominations was vetoed by Poland's president after mass protests.
	The reported reaction from Poland's government today is that the Commission's fears are unjustified and that it won't give in to blackmail.
	Well, it is blackmailing because he said, we'll trigger Article 7.1.
	And I remember all this.
	Our show started around the time of all this shenanigans called the Lisbon Treaty.
	And I remember this was a point of contention.
	And now it's being called an archaic clause that was stuffed away somewhere into the Lisbon Treaty.
	It might have even been in the protocols.
	I think it was probably in the big document.
	And there was discussion over it.
	Ah, don't worry about it.
	It's just...
	Shut up!
	Revote.
	Do over.
	And this is the article that allows the commission, when they trigger Article 7.1, they can remove the voting rights from the country in question, across the board, in the parliament, everywhere.
	Everywhere, their representative, their vote is taken away.
	And he just gave them one month.
	So, I asked for boots on the ground reporting, and I received it.
	Thank goodness.
	Did I receive it from someone who's Polish?
	No.
	Tom Shinoni, I believe.
	He says, Adam, I returned from a visit to Poland to visit with my fiancé's family.
	I was listening to Sunday's show on the flight back and you asked for a report on the situation.
	Since I love the show, I was asking her family all about the political situation in order to report back to you guys anyway.
	Hopefully this helps out.
	See, this is what we love.
	This is good.
	So we were confused about what is actually going on.
	There are a lot of articles that break down the law and what the provisions are, as well as articles outlining the pros and cons of what's at hand.
	One angle that news articles have not really covered in the West is the communist angle.
	Many supporters of this law, including my future in-laws, see it as a tool to purge communist collaborators and sympathizers of the former Polish communist government out of power.
	Currently, judges are appointed by a board consisting of jurists, which is the same way it's done in the Netherlands, and it's a very, very crappy system, because when a judge can't make it, they just hire a lawyer, just a random lawyer, who of course is going to be completely bipartisan, obviously, unless maybe you hire his law firm for something else.
	Currently, the PIS and their supporters believe this board to be full of communist sympathizers as well as elitists.
	They do not like the fact that there is not a mechanism for politicians to oust judges.
	They pointed out to me that the president selects all federal judges with consent of the Senate in the U.S. and that this is the type of system they want.
	They feel these laws are a step towards that.
	So that rings true to me.
	I think that makes sense.
	Wow.
	That's interesting.
	It does kind of ring true, because it's not a bad system.
	No, I think it works very well.
	We get to pick, or you get to pick, but then we, the other guys, we get to approve.
	It's a very good system, and that's what they want.
	To me, this rings true.
	So the EU's just being a bunch of dicks?
	Of course, they can't have this.
	You can't have unapproved politicians not approved by Starfleet Command.
	You can't have them just willy-nilly being in charge of anything.
	This is elitism at the top of its game, is the way I see it.
	Top of its game.
	Well, we'll have to follow it, because nobody's following it in the M5M. And by the way, he ended up by saying that he also asked about the visa waiver program.
	They said, yeah, they really hope he makes due on his promise, but even if that didn't happen, they still like Trump.
	That's the Melania vibe, I'm sure.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	But isn't it just crazy what these Europeans...
	I mean, you're seeing it.
	You're seeing countries like Poland saying, you know, we don't want to do it that way.
	No, they don't want people doing their own thing.
	It's unbelievable.
	And it's...
	Why don't they see it?
	People, you should be...
	You should be resisting much.
	By the way, I have to mention we're not going to have the meetup this Saturday.
	There will be a website, dvorak.org slash meetup.htm.
	Is the HTM in caps?
	No, actually no.
	It should be.htm in all caps.
	Because that's how Microsoft used to print their HTML documents.
	.htm, all uppercase.
	Anyway, I'll give everyone an update shortly.
	Now, there'll be an update on Sunday.
	I have one story that I... First I saw it on Good Morning America and then I... I don't need the clips, dumb.
	And then I saw it and then I started seeing it.
	It started cropping up.
	This is a local version of the same story.
	So obviously some public relations company working for a whiskey brewer...
	Has come up with this bullcrap story that's a public interest story.
	I don't think this is native advertising.
	I think this is one of those, oh, that's a great story, and the story is malarkey.
	And this is the bullcrap story about music and booze.
	Well, music is powerful.
	Is it strong enough to change how something tastes?
	A Northern California craft whiskey distiller has been experimenting with this for a few years.
	They put music, they pump the music into select barrels of whiskey.
	They've got a Michael Jackson barrel, the Led Zeppelin barrel, and they believe that these sound vibrations expand and contract the wood and then it molds different tastes.
	I'm just going to pull myself on it.
	The bluegrass and nutcracker ballet barrels are most popular.
	They test better, believe it or not, than non-musical whiskey.
	I think that Zeppelin stuff is probably pretty good.
	Okay.
	Everybody bought into this one.
	We could do this.
	We could do this.
	We could make water.
	It's pure water.
	So we can bring in that guy who does the water crystals.
	When you put a note, love, underneath the bottle, then the crystals look all beautiful.
	If you put a note, you know, no note or hate, then the crystals, they look all maligned and all deformed.
	And we can have our beautiful, wonderful, no agenda water, which 17 virgins stood around and said love to for 24 hours.
	I think it's a plan.
	It's our exit strategy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, baby!
	Exit strategy.
	As pathetic as it sounds, it's about the best we got.
	Alright, everybody.
	We return on Sunday for another edition of the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Thank you very much to all the producers, execs, associates, and our legion of producers alike.
	Thank you to the boys in the back, Void Zero, Sir Bemrose, the mods, the chat room.
	I love you all.
	I really do.
	I'm coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, FEMA Region 6 on the governmental maps.
	It is the capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday right here, noagendastream.com.
	Make sure you come check us out live if you can.
	Until then, as always, adios, mofos!
	The Atomic
	Bomb Very dangerous.
	Since it may be used against us, we must get ready for it, just as we are ready for many other dangers that are around us all the time.
	That's why these children are practicing to duck and cover, just as you do in your school.
	First you duck, and then you cover.
	First you duck, and then you cover.
	First, you duck.
	Then, you cover.
	And very tightly, you cover the back of your neck, your face.
	Duck and cover underneath the table, or desk, or anything else close by.
	You may be in your schoolyard playing when the signal comes.
	That means duck and cover fast, wherever you are.
	There's no time to look around or wait.
	First, you duck.
	Then, you cover.
	First, you duck.
	Then, you cover.
	This is what to do if you should be in a corridor.
	To duck and cover tight against a wall this way.
	Remember to keep your face and the back of your neck covered tightly.
	Be like Bert.
	Duck and cover and do it fast.
	Duck and cover.
	Duck, roll, and cover.
	Shelter in place.
	Everybody there!
	Hawaii!
	We're gonna bomb you!
	Go, go, go!
	I love Hawaii.
	You duck, and then you cover.
	To play as adventures.
	Just one second.
	Officials in Hawaii, they are rolling out a preparedness plan, which includes sheltering in place in the event North Korea, as long as a missile.
	The new bogus story about they're gonna, again, by the way, we played the clip just a few weeks ago, back from about two or three years ago, where the North Koreans were gonna bomb Hawaii.
	This was like three years ago, they were gonna bomb Hawaii, and we moved a bunch of ships nearby that had anti-missile technology.
	And the Pentagon is beating up our missile defense system to protect Hawaii from a North Korean missile attack, deploying a giant radar and missile interceptors to the Hawaiian Islands.
	I know what you're thinking.
	And you're right.
	And this is terrorism, Michael.
	This is terrorism.
	Put out these bogus stories and then scare them.
	We can't scare the people in Seattle because you can hit Seattle from North Korea as easy as you can in Hawaii.
	Oh my God!
	Oh my God!
	The chance that you're being hurt by an atomic bomb is slight.
	Since there is a chance, you must know how to protect yourself.
	Stay down for about one minute.
	By then, the danger for radioactivity, heat, and blast have passed.
	Another bomb may fall.
	Book him down.
	I'm ready to warn you.
	Book him.
	Book him down.
	Aloha, baby.
	This is about 2020.
	Right?
	The only real takeaway, the only one that matters, is that our President of the United States is enabling our enemy, the President of Russia.
	Enemy?
	This is about 2020.
	Juliette Kaye.
	In the House.
	In the house.
	Water it down and water it down.
	In the house.
	This is about 2020.
	Water it down.
	In the house.
	This is about 2020.
	This is about 2020.
	We're not leaders.
	We do news deconstruction.
	Juliet KM.
	In the house.
	We're not leaders.
	What's wrong with you?
	What is wrong with you?
	What's wrong with you?
	Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, storm.
	Tweet, tweet, tweet, storm. storm.

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