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	Uh, is it, like, really, like, painful death?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, July 6th, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 944.
	This is No Agenda.
	Tracking the Polish press, because I'm close, and broadcasting live with darkest corners of the internet in the capital of Kipmo Nation Lowlands in Amsterdam in the morning.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, we're going to have a hot day, and it's going to be mild tomorrow.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	That's right, everybody.
	Traffic and weather on the 8th with John C. Dvorak.
	On the 8th.
	We'll have quite a record of the weather and traffic and the mudflats.
	Definitely.
	By the time episode 1000 rolls around, which I am reliably informed, is on a palindrome.
	January 18th, 2018.
	Wow.
	Hey!
	How nice would that be, huh?
	That's a triple hit.
	I don't know what the third part is, but...
	I love it.
	That was pretty good.
	Well...
	You look ahead and that's a crazy story.
	I don't have any clips or anything, but it's a crazy story.
	Call for a ban on child sex robots.
	Oh, man.
	There goes my new venture.
	I think this has got to be a great conundrum.
	And I didn't even know there was these sex robots out there, but apparently they're making them.
	Wait a minute.
	Tell me about these sex robots.
	I'm not talking about real doll.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, what is this?
	Well, there's some sex robot companies.
	This is a BBC article.
	And what's happened is once they've developed, and I guess these robots have been sold for a while.
	Yeah.
	Let's read a little bit of this.
	Should be a ban on the import of sex robots designed to look like children, the author of a new report to the Phenomenon.
	Phenomenon.
	Phenomenon. As said.
	Phenomenon.
	Professor Noel Sharkey said that society as a whole needed to consider the impact of all types of sex robots.
	His foundation for responsible robotics has conducted a consultation.
	Only a handful of companies were currently making sex robots.
	A handful.
	I didn't know there was anybody making sex robots.
	It's an industry that has escaped our attention somehow.
	Yes!
	Of all shows.
	I know.
	The report, Our Sexual Future with Robots, was written to focus attention on an issue barely discussed.
	Noticed.
	Noted.
	The report acknowledged that finding out how many people actually own such robots was difficult because the companies that made them did not release the numbers.
	Well, do they have any names of companies or any brand names?
	Yes.
	Okay, I want to find out more.
	Companies making sex robots are skipping down.
	Yeah.
	Because this guy's going on and on lamenting the ruination of the world.
	Yeah, yeah, get to the brand name.
	Uh-huh.
	Companies making sex robots include Android Love Doll, Sex Bot, and True Companion.
	I think if you look up Sex Bot, you'll find something.
	Now, these do look like real dolls, John.
	Like real dolls?
	The company that makes real dolls?
	Yeah, they do look like that.
	I think that they're under attack.
	This is ridiculous.
	Most have previously made realistic silicone skin sex dolls that are now considering or starting to ship dolls that can move and speak.
	Yeah.
	The most advanced of these, this is the, would you get your pencil?
	Oh, please.
	San Diego, San Diego, again in California, San Diego based Abyss, A-B-Y-S-S creations.
	Oh, this is the, this is sex doll.
	Or real doll, I'm sorry.
	I told you.
	I told you.
	Wait, let me finish.
	You don't know this.
	This is new information.
	It's come to light.
	The product known as RealDoll is now due to release a sex doll with artificial intelligence later this year called Harmony.
	Oh, machine learning.
	Hmm, let me see.
	He likes it this way.
	I think I shall do that again.
	Robot moves his head and eyes and speaks via a tablet-enabled app.
	The company's already assembled the app.
	Do you think there are people who seriously buy this because it'll turn them on and they really are grooving on it?
	Yes, I'm pretty sure.
	Okay, I just got two things more.
	A couple of things.
	One is, let me read this.
	The report considers a few options on how such robots could be employed as robot prostitutes working in brothels, which answers your first question.
	Okay.
	Sexual companions for the lonely or the elderly.
	Hey, baby!
	A new means of sexual healing.
	Right.
	You play a little song in the back.
	Yeah.
	A sexual therapy tool for rapists and pedophiles.
	Holy shit.
	The last of these was the most problematic, said Professor Sharkey.
	And then he says, sex dolls...
	This is the second part.
	Sex dolls that resemble children do exist, and a court in Canada is currently determining whether owning one is illegal.
	Wow, that's a good...
	That's a good legal question.
	That's interesting.
	I think that's a conundrum.
	It's not a child.
	No, it's a robot.
	What if you marry a woman...
	A 21 year old woman who looks 10 or 14, let's say, which is more believable.
	You can't marry her because she's too young looking.
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	Well, you're not allowed to have child pornography.
	Actually, I saw a very interesting...
	It was like a Dutch TED Talk, almost.
	You know, the Dutch, they still have their state-sponsored broadcast organization.
	It's now called the...
	I don't know why, but for some reason, a Dutch TED Talk strikes me as amusing.
	It was.
	And it was like a low-grade TED Talk.
	It's called the University of the Netherlands.
	And it's like NPR-owned...
	It's NPR only really bad.
	That's the kind of quality this TED Talk was.
	But there was a Dutch professor, she was a professor in Dutch language, and she explained the entire...
	History of pornography.
	And what I didn't realize is that originally, that may have changed now, but originally, pornography is not, you know, if I have a picture of some sexual act or whatever and I send it to you, that's not sending you pornography.
	Pornography is only pornography when you print it.
	Or when you distribute it in some other way, when you make copies of it.
	I didn't realize that that was the actual definition.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Yeah, that's what she said.
	I thought it was believable that it was not considered pornography until the printing press came along.
	Were these items before?
	Were they etchings?
	Yeah, exactly.
	On vases, on walls, on bathhouses, etc.
	They were one-offs.
	They were one-offs.
	Sculptures?
	Yeah, but they also usually only make one original.
	Not a whole bunch of copies.
	We're talking about before the printing press.
	They weren't making molds.
	All right, all right, all right.
	I have a great use for this thing, actually, for the sex doll.
	Okay.
	For medical purposes.
	As Harvard research has shown, that in order to keep your prostate healthy as a man, you should, you've heard this, you should have 21 ejaculations per month.
	I thought there was a yearly total that was needed.
	It's like 251 or something like that.
	Well, that is an extrapolation in the article.
	The optimum number is 21 ejaculations per month, and then the article goes, we've done a quick calculation that's equal to 250 times annually.
	We're almost 70% of the days in a year.
	Yeah?
	Maybe you should just...
	As you're doing the reports, hey Bill, what number are you up to?
	Well, you know...
	I'm almost done!
	I'm almost done!
	It flows...
	I'm sorry for the noise in the background.
	We've got ambulances, all kinds of stuff going on today.
	I can't hear it.
	Okay, good.
	But, you know, there's a story we need to talk about.
	I don't know if it's appropriate right off the bat, but about what's happening in the war on men in Silicon Valley.
	You know, the bro culture is being...
	Wow, listen to that.
	Now I can hear that.
	That sounds great.
	It's adding a certain something in there.
	You know, we've been tracking this kind of in the background, just kind of watching what's going on.
	There's a couple of articles, but now it's really blown open.
	And this was posted on the FaceBag by John Swartz.
	You know John Swartz, of course.
	Yeah, I used to work with him.
	Yeah, from USA Today.
	Does he still work at USA Today?
	I think so.
	Yeah, he's the bureau chief now.
	That's what he says.
	He posts on the face bag over the weekend.
	Heard from a half dozen women this weekend about sexual harassment from VCs and CEOs.
	And, yeah.
	I'm cracking up.
	Me too, because the thing is, Yes, there's absolutely...
	I mean, never would I diminish the amount of harassment that women receive, just in general, in professional life.
	Absolutely.
	But, you know, we're down to stories where I'm reading the story and I was harassed by him, but then it's really not clear, you know, was he made sexual advances?
	Okay.
	But it's all kind of written like they jumped him, you know?
	It's like...
	Not that I'm trying to make it sound good, but it's a little McCarthy-like that's going on now.
	You know what I mean?
	Let's get them.
	Let's get these men.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And I know that we have women listening to the show.
	Don't get triggered right away because we're totally on your side.
	This is absolutely true.
	But be careful.
	Now that you've got the floor, now you have the podium, I would say be careful how far you push this.
	There's a couple of things I've noted.
	One, first of all...
	I'm sorry, when we say VC, that's venture capitalist.
	I'm sorry, there's confusion about that.
	Venture capitalist.
	What else could it possibly mean?
	Viet Cong, you know.
	Oh, Viet Cong, those damn Viet Cong.
	Damn VC. Yeah, venture capitalist.
	VC always means that to us.
	There's a book that, one of PC magazines, etc., she went to work for Fortune, and she was working at Dell, I don't know where she is now, but she wrote a book on office affairs, and she advocates them.
	And probably a little bit against some of this because it's like, how are you ever going to meet anybody if you don't at least make a pass at them?
	But making a pass is not good.
	You can't do that with this group.
	And then I'm reminded of the comedian who a lot of women really think is hilarious, and I think she is too.
	Eliza.
	And Eliza is...
	Yeah, Schlesinger.
	I like her a lot, Eliza Schlesinger.
	Schlesinger.
	Yeah, she's funny.
	I think she needs to put better material together.
	Her last thing wasn't as good as it should be.
	But she made it pretty clear, and I think she talks a lot about this.
	In fact, most of what she talks about is interpersonal stuff.
	Yeah, and mainly about how women talk about men behind their back.
	Yes, and she kind of, or kind of, she just says that it's horrible that these men are making passes and flirting and, you know, doing sexual harassment.
	But if the guy's cute, it's okay.
	Yeah.
	This is the attitude.
	If you weren't a creep, if you weren't a slimy, greasy, slime ball, yeah, then it would be okay.
	And so the guys that come out, and so you want to look at the pictures.
	Well, hold on a second.
	I just want to say that I would love to hear from some of our female listeners, and I think they can be honest with themselves and with us if they feel that's true or not, if that does make a difference, and really be truthful to yourself.
	I would be stunned if any of them said it didn't make a difference, unless they're lesbians.
	And then still, there's a difference between, hey, you look cute and want to go out.
	And it's not appropriate.
	The difference between that and mashing or whatever.
	Mashing is unacceptable.
	Of course it is.
	But by legal standards...
	Let's explain what mashing is.
	They call all the guys a masher.
	Mashing is literally pushing yourself up against somebody and then more or less pleasuring yourself I can't say jumping up and down, mashing and mashing.
	It's like a, I would say, best analogy would be forced to lap dance or something like that.
	But it's disgusting.
	And there's a bunch of guys in Silicon Valley that do it.
	I personally knew three guys.
	One of them was a masher.
	And one of them was, and I have it on good authority as a masher, and another one was a CEO of a computer manufacturing company back in the 80s, and he would just proposition women right there, especially if they're asking for a job.
	Right.
	Oh, really?
	That's pretty damn wrong.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and it was very overt.
	And he never got really, he got caught eventually, but it was years and years and years.
	And who knows what benefits he received.
	There's a number of angles to this story.
	And again, I'm just saying, you know, absolutely go for it, but be very careful.
	I see a lot of kind of callous, like, yeah, like you said, let's go get him.
	About time.
	You know, be careful.
	Seriously.
	Let me just tell you, I've had all kinds of crap go down with me.
	Also in Silicon Valley.
	I've never complained though.
	Gay guys do this all the time.
	Oh honey, how you doing?
	That's harassment.
	Yeah, by the most liberal standards, I think so.
	But the best is, speaking of VCs, when Kleiner Perkins was one of our investors, venture capital firm, very famous, Kleiner Perkins, they had a receptionist.
	Q receptionist, I have to say, that whole office was filled with good-looking women.
	I'm sure they hired based upon that, no doubt in my mind.
	And, you know, like the receptionist...
	Yes, I think that goes on a lot.
	In fact, you can see it, because it'll be transparent.
	The whole office will be like that.
	You'll find that at Oracle.
	Yeah, and bookmark that, because there's another company that should not escape persecution here.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, often we'd be early for meetings and, you know, we'd chat with her a little bit.
	You walk in the door and there's a reception right there.
	And then there was a Kleiner Perkins party, you know, where those, oh, all the founders come and have a party, which is the boring, most boring parties you can imagine.
	And I was still smoking at the time.
	I was actually smoking a cigarette outside.
	And she goes, hey, you want to smoke some opium?
	I'm like, no.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No, no, that's okay.
	This is the receptionist?
	Yes.
	And she walked outside and asked you if you wanted to smoke some opium.
	Yeah, but now, to be honest, I knew that she was kind of, you know, she was into surfing, and, you know, you chatted a little bit.
	Oh, the opium surfing, yeah, I get it.
	Yeah, but to me, it wasn't, like, completely crazy that that would come from her, but first of all, I'd never been offered that that way, like, smoking opium, no.
	Weed, even that, I was like, no, I wouldn't do that.
	I mean, this dumb founders thing.
	Yeah, not at that event.
	But then, months later, I got a call from Ray Lane.
	And he says, yeah, I'm about to ask you a few questions.
	I'm like, what's up, Ray?
	He says, yeah, well, you remember so-and-so?
	Yeah.
	I said, well, did you ever ask her to go outside and smoke drugs?
	I'm like, no, quite the opposite.
	And it turns out she had a history of doing this, of trapping men, and I guess getting money out of the corporations, but Kleiner Perkins wasn't having it in this case, because they had a strong enough case.
	But she had tried this with a couple guys at the same time, and they just put a stop to it.
	But wow, that was pretty shocking to me.
	Yeah, and I will say this.
	There's more of these articles, like we currently see this pile of them, of these anti-men, men harassing the women.
	I have not read one article out of Silicon Valley from any of these people that are self-righteous about this issue to an extreme.
	I have not seen one article discussing anything like that.
	About some of these predator women who are in the scene to make money using various tricks and things to trap men into harassing them or something where they can sue the company.
	When you take, there's a course that's given in California on sexual harassment that if you're an executive at any company, you're supposed to take this course.
	You never did.
	I never did, no.
	I think you made a mistake.
	I took the course at my public company in New York.
	I know what the course is.
	Nah, it's not the California course.
	It can't be much worse because you can't even say, boy, you look nice today.
	You can't say that.
	No, that's in there too.
	This, in California, you can't even say that.
	To a passerby.
	On the street?
	Just on the street?
	On the street?
	Yes.
	No, that's illegal.
	No.
	If you're seen as representing the company in any way, in other words, standing near the building, you have a card, you give somebody your card that's got the company name on it, and you say, you're a good-looking lady, boom!
	Hey, good-looking lady, I'm a podcaster.
	From the No Agenda podcast.
	Don't sue me.
	It won't apply much to us.
	It's all big pockets.
	Women are not dumb.
	They look for big money.
	I mean, if you had an IBM card or you work for Microsoft or any of these, I can't imagine what kind of money companies like Microsoft have to dole out constantly.
	I mean, it's just outrageous.
	Yeah, you probably don't hear about one-tenth of what's really going on.
	Anyway, so there's not much to say about it other than, yeah, of course you shouldn't be harassing women.
	You're a douchebag.
	But by the same token, I'm just seeing an overzealousness that is just off the hook.
	Yeah, it's like, okay, these guys, they struck out.
	And to your point, these guys who, let's see, what is this guy from 500 Hats?
	Is he icky looking?
	McClure.
	Yeah, is he creepy looking?
	If you look at a picture of him, he has a look of like a kind of a little smarmy.
	Okay, all right.
	The company that I never hear anything about, but I feel they should be looked at because they hire a very typical kind of person and with a very obvious sexual identity is Apple.
	They really should be looked at.
	You look at Apple, they hire the same type of people.
	Well, Microsoft does to a lesser extent.
	Most of these companies tend to hire...
	A certain look.
	I mean, when I was...
	I mentioned this on the show before, but I was at an...
	Yeah, but when it comes to gender identity, that's when it becomes a problem in the world of social justice warriors.
	Oh, what kind of people are you describing here at Apple?
	Kind of male lesbians.
	Male-looking lesbians.
	Male lesbians.
	Yeah.
	Masculine lesbians.
	Yep.
	So the Rachel Maddow types?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, in a way.
	In a way.
	Yeah, well, that wouldn't surprise me.
	By the way, it's adam at curry.com.
	Adam at curry.com.
	I think the Apple people will agree with me.
	And you just got to wonder.
	You just got to wonder what's going on there.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's fine.
	I really don't care.
	I agree with the author.
	You should totally be able to complement each other and just have normal relations.
	And the more restrictions there are, the tougher it becomes and the more everyone's on edge and it creates tension.
	It's all so unnecessary.
	Just being nice to each other.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	Not in California anymore.
	And I think when you see, when you go to the office, there's a woman there that's all dressed up.
	She looks beautiful.
	Go up to her.
	Go up to her and say, why are you all dressed up?
	Is that your opening line, Demorak?
	That's the way to go, yeah.
	Why are you all dressed up?
	Who are you trying to impress?
	You're trying to get somebody in trouble?
	Yeah, and then stomp off.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So we're really sick.
	You're sick?
	Yeah.
	Since the last show, Tina came down with a massive, like, flu, and then I caught a little bit of it.
	We've been in bed for three days.
	It's been horrible.
	Yeah.
	What are you laughing about?
	Yeah, I kind of hinted that this was going to happen.
	Why?
	I don't remember.
	No, I don't remember.
	Why?
	Yeah, you were talking about the back of the throat.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did.
	But that was after the show we talked about it.
	Yeah, not during the show.
	Yeah, you're exactly right.
	I knew you were doomed.
	Yeah, well, I didn't have it.
	Whatever she had, I'm sure I got from her.
	But it may have been something going around at the opening, because I know someone else who got really sick.
	But in bed, man, for three days, it's been crap.
	That doesn't make for a fun trip.
	No, no, this is our vacation.
	You know, the funny thing is about you...
	And I think the public doesn't appreciate it as much as I do.
	You can be sick as a dog and you sound great.
	You wouldn't know it.
	I think I always sound better when I'm sick.
	I have a little more head.
	I got a little more tone in my voice.
	Yeah, I do, everybody.
	Yeah, I got a bit of an EU report, if you're interested, and we're still here in Amsterdam, in the Netherlands.
	And then also I watched the President, the First Lady, in Poland this morning, and now on the way to Germany for the G20 Summit.
	And it was very interesting.
	You should look at the pictures.
	Ivanka is also there.
	I presume Jared is also along for the ride.
	So, you know, Melania Trump, first lady, first lady is, you know, she's kind of from the region.
	So it was like, hey, this is one of ours, you know, with the Eastern European type vibe.
	And so they gave her a beautiful, big bouquet of flowers.
	And then you see what they gave Melania.
	It looks like they gave her weeds.
	Like, hey, your wicked stepdaughter, here's some weeds for you.
	It was very strange.
	Or Melania?
	No, Melania got beautiful flowers, but Ivanka...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Melania got beautiful flowers.
	They gave her the weeds?
	Yeah, they gave her like a bushel of weeds.
	That was very funny.
	So, right off the bat, I'll say I'm incredibly disappointed with the president.
	I was waiting and I thought it was the perfect moment.
	I have no idea why he didn't do it.
	He promised the Polish people, he promised them that they would be allowed to participate in the visa waiver program.
	This is bullcrap.
	You know, everything he said to me was empty bullcrap.
	No, you know, we're partnership with the, oh, we stand by each other.
	Why don't you just let him get on the visa waiver program?
	What is the problem?
	Well, you know what the problem is.
	No, no, I don't.
	It's about the problem.
	What's the problem?
	The problem is the Israelis.
	Right, yeah, because they hate the Polacks.
	They saw the Polish as selling out to the Nazis, even though they didn't sell out to get taken over.
	So the Israelis have so much power that he can't put them on the visa waiver program?
	And what is the big deal with that?
	I don't understand.
	Yeah, get over it.
	Who, me?
	No, I'm talking about blaming the Polish for stuff that is not necessarily that well documented.
	And it's the new generation.
	If you're going to blame anybody, blame the Germans.
	Why don't you take them off the visa waiver program?
	Try doing that.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	No, I don't like it.
	I don't like it at all.
	Anyway.
	I think behind the scenes there's something else going on that we might not know about.
	Well, I mean, we did just put down a whole bunch of Patriots, whatever missile system we've installed.
	Hey, everybody, no visa.
	The system that never worked and still doesn't probably?
	Yeah, no visa for you, but here's some duds.
	Here's some dud rockets we had to get rid of.
	So, you know, and this kind of...
	I did a little bit of research on this, and I'm just looking at the immigration picture.
	Certainly here in Amsterdam, and I've just been talking to a lot of people.
	Certainly I've had a little bit more chance since we just got here in the last show.
	And people are starting to slowly open up and tell me a little bit about how they feel.
	And I will say right off the bat, my...
	Hmm.
	My perception of what I'm seeing on the streets of Amsterdam is Amsterdam is brown.
	The white people are tourists.
	I mean, you can almost pick them out.
	Tourists, tourists, tourists, tourists, tourists.
	And we're talking, you know, second generation Moroccans and Turks and Yeah, and these are kids born here, and I will say already there's interesting changes.
	The way they speak, they don't speak with a typical Dutch accent, an Amsterdam accent, so they have different vocabulary, which white kids have adopted very quickly.
	You hear white kids speaking like brown kids.
	Cultural appropriation.
	But it's okay here.
	They don't mind it.
	Yet.
	Yeah, good point, good point.
	But, you know, since I have been trying to get people's vibe on Trump and, you know, how you're feeling about stuff, they all are saying, well, you know, you guys do have the right idea with the immigration because we're not very happy with this.
	And I don't know how much has been in the news in the U.S. about the Swedish music festival canceled after multiple rapes, which is now being presumed to be migrants.
	Austria.
	Austria has 15,000 troops at the border with Italy just to block the migrants.
	Nope, you're not coming in.
	I mean, there's...
	No, they really stuck it to the Italians.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I have a bunch of Italian clips since you're on your way to Italy.
	Well, do you want me to finish my report or do you want to go straight into something?
	I want you to finish your report.
	When I say that, I'm not saying I want to interrupt you.
	Sometimes you do.
	Because I do that, too.
	Sometimes you do.
	What I'm saying is that What you have a tendency to do is you'll end whatever you're saying and then you jump to something else, leaving my clips out.
	So what I do is I pre-introduce them.
	Okay, well I'm glad after nine years I know how it works.
	I've been doing that a lot lately.
	Every time you keep misinterpreting it.
	Okay, so I will remember this now.
	Thank you for the notes.
	Let me write it down to remind myself.
	Well, thank you for getting me to put my phone off the hook.
	Do you want to go through the checklist real quick and make sure you've done everything?
	I don't want to go through the checklist at all.
	Finish your little whatever you're talking about.
	So we had dinner with my sister and my brother-in-law, who is, believe it or not, he is now the editor-in-chief of a gossip magazine.
	And we're in it again.
	Yay!
	You're in the Italian gossip magazine?
	No, other brother-in-law.
	I have a sister in the Netherlands.
	Okay, and she's the one...
	Okay, and you're in the gossip magazine?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Tina and I, on the cover.
	Exclusive.
	Exclusive, yes.
	That's beautiful.
	Exclusive.
	Exclusive.
	So he says, and this is part of a big publishing company, there are a thousand employees in this company.
	Now, when you have a thousand employees, you have a big restaurant, you've got a commissary, you've got a mess hall, you have places for people to eat.
	It's also very Dutch.
	Everyone eats in the building.
	You can buy your little sandwiches and stuff, and typically no brown bagging.
	Everyone just eats with each other in the commissary.
	They have, of the 1,000 employees, three are Muslim, and thus, all 1,000 people must eat only halal meat.
	There's no choice.
	Why?
	That's the rule.
	That's how far, that's, I don't know if it's a law, but it certainly is how things are being done here.
	Oh, we don't want to upset the Muslims, so, oh well, everyone will have halal then.
	And it may be great.
	I don't know if it makes any difference.
	Well, it tends not to make much of a difference.
	Although there are some specialty...
	Well, one difference it makes, which may annoy a lot of people, what would annoy me, is you can't have pork, which means you can't have sausages, you can't have salamis.
	You know, I didn't ask him about that.
	I didn't ask him about that.
	Well, I can tell you that if you're going to go along with the halal program...
	You would think not.
	Yeah, you would think that.
	They're not going to have any pork whatsoever.
	And you know the Dutch have something called breakfast bacon, which they eat on bread raw, uncooked.
	It's called breakfast bacon.
	I know, it's hardcore, huh?
	Yeah, it's rough.
	So it's just bacon, and it looks like bacon.
	It's very thin, but not carpaccio thin, just bacon strips.
	And they put butter on their bread, and they put the bacon on it, and they eat it.
	And I'm thinking...
	Trichnosis is what I'm thinking.
	Trichnosis?
	Death?
	No, I guess not.
	Oh, my goodness.
	There was a fantastic thing that happened.
	The Minister of Social Affairs, I believe she is, has started an experiment in four municipalities, or four provinces, I should say, in the Netherlands.
	And it's a beautiful transition.
	That's why I want to keep our eye on it, because this makes a lot of sense for something we're expecting to happen soon anyway.
	And then I'm seeing Zuckerberg posting about it again on the Facebook.
	If you have a Social Security payment, so you're on welfare, which I think is 986 euros a month.
	It's not like you're living large, but still.
	So you're on welfare for whatever reason.
	You can't find a job.
	That's pretty much why people are on welfare.
	I can't find a job.
	Fine.
	Whatever.
	Whatever.
	They're now going to allow these people to start a business, as an entrepreneur, start a business next to receiving this wage, its income, and they can keep all profits from their side business, which is a beautiful transition towards basic income.
	Yes.
	That's kind of what it is.
	Well, that's exactly what it is, but now it's being called an experiment.
	And yeah, there's some limitations on how much they can earn, etc.
	But that's moot as far as I'm concerned.
	And obviously you'll get a job, a well-paying job, you wouldn't be able to take advantage of the situation.
	This is for starting your own little business.
	Right.
	Well, then there are, I think there is a real job problems here.
	For sure.
	There's job problems everywhere.
	No thanks to sex robots.
	Well, you know who's to blame, right?
	You know what the problem is with these jobs, is Brexit.
	Brexit has screwed it up.
	This week's Wimbledon is being launched, and the people who normally produce the strawberries Can't produce them because the labor force has disappeared because of anxiety about their future status in Britain.
	And that's one of hundreds and hundreds of practical examples of the way in which this extreme form of Brexit is going to harm Britain and we've got to stop it.
	How about some other British people?
	Are they interested in picking strawberries or just it's beneath you all?
	What's going on there?
	No strawberries, no one wants to pick them.
	That's very odd.
	Very, very odd.
	Let's play this PBS anti-Brexit summary so you can see what's going on this side.
	Okay.
	In what was perhaps the most consequential decision in Britain this century, voters are now having second thoughts about their choice to leave the European Union.
	A new opinion poll shows a majority of British people now want to stay.
	And business leaders are warning their once flourishing economy will flounder unless the right compromise is reached with the EU during exit negotiations.
	Add to that, a deeply divided government after the recent election has left a hung parliament, and it has become harder for many to keep calm and carry on.
	You know, the funny thing is, is they bring up this...
	The polls, by the way, said they weren't going to Brexit in the first place, so the polls are crap.
	Let's start with that.
	Yeah, let's believe them now.
	Yeah, let's believe them now.
	The other thing is, the economy is going to...
	The founder, as she said...
	Which is what they said if the vote went toward Brexit.
	And it didn't happen.
	In fact, everything went up.
	Except for the pound, it went down, which is a plus for tourists.
	So this is all nonsense.
	But they made a big report of it.
	But the one thing that always crops up in these reports is the fishing in England.
	Because the EU has made it so you can't be a fisherman.
	I don't know who gets to fish there, but nobody gets to fish there.
	So they go to these fishing villages and nobody's fishing because you can't.
	It's illegal.
	And I was thinking of that and said, what if you needed, you know, because this is all an extension of World War II and, you know, the Brits are tough cookies.
	What happens if we...
	Starve them out.
	Let's try that for a new trick.
	So they can't feed themselves.
	So they're completely dependent on the EU for their own food.
	I mean, in England, fish and chips was always a mainstay.
	And from all reports, I get all on a consistent basis.
	Fish and chip shops, many of them were once great, have all been kind of either shuttered or there's very few left.
	And if it's not because of the lack of fish that they can catch themselves and take to the fish and chip shops, it's because people have been talked out of fish and chips because it's unhealthy and all the rest of it.
	Fish and chips is an absolutely fantastic dish.
	Yeah, I don't know how it's unhealthy because it's fried maybe, but it's fish.
	Yeah, it's grease.
	It's grease potatoes and poisson.
	Fish!
	Fish!
	Hashtag fish!
	I did want to share this because this is the research I did.
	Because I said, why are you guys letting these migrants in?
	It's a lot of people coming in.
	It's really insane numbers.
	And the United Nations, I think this is in 99 or maybe it was 92, they came out with...
	This is the United Nations Population Division.
	Replacement migration.
	Specifically about the European Union.
	They had two scenarios.
	And scenario one is, in order to just keep the population going at its current rate, so I guess in order to be able to have the same average GDP, because the population is growing older, Right, and it's a known fact that a lot of, especially the Italians, were notorious for having a negative population curve.
	Correct.
	They weren't reproducing.
	Yes, an average of 949,000 migrants per year is necessary.
	But to really achieve the potential support ratio, and there's a whole calculation, I have this, it's a PDF, I have it in the show notes.
	No immigrants will be needed until 2015.
	But, as of 2015, between 2015 and 2040, 153.6 million immigrants would be needed.
	That's an average of 6.1 million per year during that period.
	And it seems that that is the ratchet that we're on.
	Starting in 2015, that's about right.
	Now, is it possible, again...
	Harkening back to my thesis about starving the British by restricting their fishing, is it possible that this entire thing that we're witnessing was all pre-planned?
	Yes, this is where I'm moving towards, and I know it sounds very conspiratorial, but I just read you this from...
	Well, it's completely nuts.
	It's completely nuts.
	But why is it happening?
	Why is Merkel pushing it so much?
	And the way I see it is, here's an idea, let's create a mass of 400 million people who are all kind of the same color, kind of don't care about government, are happy to be pushed around and told what to do, and just be happy little grass eaters.
	What else could it be?
	Well, that sounds kind of interesting, and that falls in line.
	I'm never going to get to these Italian clips.
	That falls in line with the, there was a, they did this thing on, I think it was on PBS, about Muslims not integrating in the UK. So to start with this, this is the premise, is Muslims not integrating in the UK is a big deal, people moaning and groaning.
	Mm-hmm.
	British people don't believe Muslims living in a country have integrated properly.
	That's according to a new independent report by Citizens UK. It highlights government failures to combat prejudices amongst society towards Muslims.
	The document is 76 pages long, but we've condensed the main findings into 30 seconds.
	And then they flash a bunch of crap on the screen.
	Oh, how annoying.
	It's very annoying.
	So in other words, don't pay attention.
	It's not important, but we have to report it to be credible?
	What is that about?
	I don't know.
	I couldn't quite figure it out, but I think if we're going to go with this thesis, let's do that because it's more interesting than anything else, that this is all done on purpose.
	These kinds of reports where they're not integrating, they definitely want them to integrate.
	Otherwise, you won't bitch about it so much.
	If you didn't want them to integrate, You know, you would have just let him ghettoize and who cares?
	Right.
	But again, going overboard and making everything halal, I mean, it's like, I don't think that's the way to go.
	But here's the thing, to your point, this is a, you're going to have a difficulty hearing a lot of this, but this was a man on the street report where they had a report saying that one in three Muslims sympathizes with jihadis, and then everyone says, oh, I don't know if that's true or not.
	And then they ask the question, do you think that the press should be censored and not write about crazy stuff like one in three Muslims are for jihadists?
	And this is from what news organization?
	I believe this is RT.
	It's either RT or PBS.
	It's pretty hard to tell.
	But I think this is RT because they're the ones who go out in the street all the time.
	And they're asking one guy after another.
	And this, I think, is a pretty common way of seeing things if you have a Middle Eastern structure as a social structure, because all the newspapers in the Middle East are bogus.
	Yeah.
	I wanted to show you.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	All right.
	I wanted to show you some of these headlines and ask you what you make of them.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	One in five Brits, Muslims, sympathy for jihadis.
	What do I think of that?
	Load of baloney.
	That's what I think.
	It's hard to say because I don't know how accurate this fact is.
	Do you think Muslims are reported fairly in the media in the UK? No, not really.
	You don't have to say Muslims this or Islam this.
	You just have to report the event as it happens.
	They don't help British people to understand what's happening in the world.
	And you think the newspapers sometimes make it sound?
	Yeah, people in the streets believe that all Muslims are terrorists.
	This is fake.
	This is not true.
	Which is a bit of a danger for everybody, you know, because once you start stereotyping people, it can become a reality.
	It makes me feel sad, but yeah, that's about it.
	Do you think that there should be more regulation, that journalists should be given more rules about how to report on Muslims specifically?
	Obviously.
	I'm not really sure.
	I don't think you can deal with that by regulation.
	I believe so, yes.
	I agree completely with that.
	Does that not threaten press freedom?
	Press freedom is threatened anyway, so I don't see the problem.
	I think it's just...
	What did he say?
	Press freedom what?
	He says...
	It's threatened anyway, so I don't see a problem.
	Press freedom's threatened anyway, so I don't see the problem.
	I think it's just common sense not to be provocative when you're dealing with something like this.
	When journalists go too far and report something that's not accurate for the facts of selling paper or whatever, I personally think that that journalist should be struck off.
	I can't tell the people what they have to write, but people they have to look for the truth because there is a responsibility.
	These issues affect the community where we live in.
	Did that guy say you don't have to be a terrorist to take over a country?
	Are you...
	I didn't hear that, but he could have, because I couldn't understand him at all.
	Let me listen to that again.
	I think that's what he said.
	You don't have to be a terrorist to take over the country.
	Freedom's threatened anyway, so I don't see the problem.
	I think it's just common sense not to be provocative when you're dealing with something like this.
	When journalists go too far and report something that's not accurate for the facts of selling paper or whatever, I personally think that that journalist should be struck off.
	I can't tell the people what they have to write, but people, they have to look for the truth because there is a responsibility.
	These issues affect the community where we live.
	I'm on drugs.
	I have no idea how I... Yeah, I couldn't get it out of there.
	It's a good one, though.
	Yeah, I liked it.
	It'd been ideal if he had said it.
	Yeah, but these are, of course, you know, chosen men on the street and saying, you know, that's...
	Oh, yeah, no, it's always trumped up.
	Yeah, bogus, bogative.
	But I don't...
	I think, to your point, I think it would be very easy to...
	Regulate the news and all these things with the group of immigrants that have come over from areas where that's expected.
	Yes, they're used to it.
	Yeah, they're used to it.
	It's okay.
	It doesn't bother me.
	I don't see any benefit to what we're looking at.
	There's no benefit to the other side of it.
	We get free press.
	Who cares?
	It's got nothing to do with me.
	I can see people getting into that logic very easily.
	Even the definition of what free press is.
	A lot of this is going on.
	You're hampering freedom of the press.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, this is what struck me.
	It struck me as, you know, maybe this is all part of the idea.
	No one seems to be stopping it.
	And I'll tell you...
	Poland and Hungary.
	Yeah, people who...
	If you asked him on camera, did you vote for Geert Wilders?
	They'll never put him in the coalition, even though he's, I think, number two party.
	They're still trying to form a coalition.
	They have no government, really, to speak of yet, because they're all so crazed about having the Dutch Donald Trump possibly running a part of the country.
	They just can't stand it, so they're trying to put together a coalition that no one wants to be together.
	Anything but with that guy.
	But, you know, people did vote for him.
	And people are tired of it.
	And, you know, they talk about, you know, Eric.
	You remember Eric?
	Eric's not racist.
	I guess he is.
	Taxi Eric.
	He says, you know, I'm tired of seeing penguins in the street.
	That's what he says.
	What's a penguin?
	That's Niqab's.
	Oh, right.
	The black things those women wear.
	Yeah, but there's these particular...
	In Holland, have you seen any of the whole ones, top to bottom?
	No, I've not seen burkas.
	But the niqabs that they wear, they do have a white piece on it.
	It almost looks like they're a nun.
	Are you sure those are nuns?
	No, no, no, no.
	That's what I thought first, but no.
	But I have to tell you, very, very similar.
	I'd probably be hard-pressed if you flashed a couple of penguins in front of me, if I could say, you know, non-Muslim.
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	But in general, That's interesting.
	Yeah, but in general...
	There's no reason to be wearing this Middle Eastern garb in Amsterdam, it seems to me.
	Well, you know, yeah, it's their religion.
	But it's got little to do with religion.
	It's a traditional garment.
	There's no mention of any job in the Koran.
	There you go.
	And now you are at the center of the argument.
	It's a way of...
	It's like people wear a big giant cross.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's carrying it around as a badge.
	It's more of a badge than it is really a garment.
	Yes, according to you and according to a lot of people here as well.
	And according to your buddy Eric, who I believe is from Lebanon or someplace.
	No, he's as Dutch as they come.
	Is he?
	Eric?
	Taxi Eric?
	Yeah.
	All I know is he almost got me killed.
	Well, that's his job.
	He got you where you needed to be on time.
	Yes, he did.
	All right.
	Give me the Italy clips.
	I want to know what you got.
	All right.
	So Italy, of course, is like it's getting out of control there.
	It's like the whole country.
	And there's been some movies made showing, you know, in Milan, it's just a bunch of guys wearing the dish dash walking around.
	It's like it's out of control.
	Of course.
	At least from the perspective of some Italians and some commentators on this.
	What do you mean out of control?
	Economically?
	There's too many.
	They can't get them out.
	You just mentioned yourself that there's a border.
	Austria's got a bunch of armed guards that keep them in there.
	So Italy's get filled up with migrants and refugees.
	And did you see the...
	The European minister of, maybe it was immigration or something like that, he said, if Italy is willing to go along, we are willing to give them a substantial financial support.
	He really was telegraphing big money.
	Yeah.
	Selling out your own country for big money.
	Great idea.
	Correct.
	So, alright, Italy crisis and hot air from EU. Our correspondent Charlotte Dubinsky traveled to the Italian island of Sicily, which has been one of the main points of arrival for African migrants, and she talked to locals who say they are fed up with the inaction of Europe's authorities.
	This is one of the many boats that brings rescued migrants from the Mediterranean Sea to ports like this one here in Sicily.
	And for many of those migrants, this will be the first time that they're setting foot on European soil.
	But the Italian authorities say there's so many migrants coming here to Italy that they might have to close the ports to migrant ships like this.
	Italy says it's overwhelmed by the sheer volume of migrants that have landed here and that it's now having to look after, particularly here on the Isle of Sicily.
	And people on this island say they feel abandoned by the European Union.
	It is not just the responsibility of Italy.
	It's the responsibility of Europe.
	There is far too much immigration.
	Italy cannot support all the arriving migrants.
	They do nothing because their policies don't work.
	They just talk.
	They have to help Italy.
	We're bearing the financial burden.
	I want other states, France, Spain and others, to do their part in helping the migrants.
	Because as Prime Minister Gentiloni said, everyone turns away and pretends not to see.
	To do nothing is wrong.
	Europe needs to help out.
	And while the European Union has provided financial aid to Italy, it says it's not enough.
	And now EU lawmakers have said that they back calls by Italy to open up other ports along the Mediterranean coast, such as in Marseille, in France, and in Barcelona, in Spain.
	But that is likely to be met with great resistance in both those countries.
	And some people suggest that what the European Commission is saying is little more than hot air.
	This is incredible.
	Yeah.
	Hey, friends.
	Just open up a couple more ports.
	Jeez.
	Let's let it roll.
	Yeah.
	So let's go to part two.
	And you know, the people are aware here of the difference between economic migrants and refugees.
	We're not talking about refugees.
	Remember, this is tricky language.
	It's very tricky language.
	Yeah, it's just people's...
	It's people that, in this case, in Italy, it's mostly northern Africans.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And, you know, a lot of Sudanese and people that even further down a little ways.
	And you know what Qaddafi said before they killed him?
	He said, if you get rid of Libya, if you destabilize Libya, you'll have all of Africa flowing right out into Europe.
	Yes, and that's exactly what they did.
	So this brings us back to our original thesis.
	Yeah, the plan.
	This was a plan.
	It sure seems that way, man.
	Because it was like Libya was a cork in the bottle.
	Yeah.
	And they took the cork out on purpose.
	What difference at this point does it make?
	These are the same assholes.
	No borders.
	No this, no that.
	The same thing.
	The same globalists that are in this country.
	You know, the Hillary Clinton comment, which she made when she was Secretary of State, when she was giving a speech somewhere in South America, she said she would like to see no borders from the tip of South America to Through into Canada to Alaska.
	No borders at all.
	Do we have a clip of that?
	No.
	I wish.
	That's too bad.
	You know, we may have a clip, but I don't think you can find it.
	It may be too old.
	I don't know.
	Well, it's a pretty old clip, but...
	She's notorious for having said that, but she is appealing to the globalists, and they're all over the place.
	I mean, it's like the Republicans are all for the cheap labor coming up from Mexico so they can get their yards cleaned up.
	I can use that right now myself.
	Yeah, just go to Home Depot.
	And everybody else wants one world government and no more war.
	But the way they're going about it is like, I think it's just sloppy.
	Yeah.
	And I think this is very sloppy, what's going on in Italy, and it's just going to...
	This is not going to...
	I don't know.
	I could be wrong.
	We're going to find out.
	If this is a grand scheme, it might work out, but it doesn't seem like it.
	Well, if everyone's lethargic the way the Italians are, I mean, we'll find out.
	How far can you push the Italians?
	Maybe you can only push them so far.
	They get tired of it.
	It's possible.
	But it is an economic model.
	We heard this from my nephew.
	He's like, yeah, this is an economic model now.
	You open up a little hotel or open up some other thing for migrants, and you get paid for it.
	So it's an economic model, and that's actually not to be underestimated in its importance in a country like Italy, which pretty much the economy they had is now being purchased by the Chinese.
	Well, screwing up.
	Yeah.
	Let's go to part two.
	Some countries need to do more to do their share in distributing refugees.
	Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic have not accepted a single refugee from Italy.
	Unfortunately, we have no progress on the question of distribution of migrants within the European Union.
	We stand in solidarity with the Italian government and the Italian people, and we will make available all possible assistance and support.
	It seems there's a lot of talk, but very little action from the powers that be in Europe.
	And in the meanwhile, Italy is continuing to sink under the strain of the migrant crisis.
	Hmm.
	Yeah.
	Well, again, this follows in the thesis.
	They're not doing anything for a reason.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	And they don't give a crap.
	Let the Italians suffer.
	That doesn't make any...
	They've never really been a consolidated country.
	There's just these regions.
	And it's a perfect area to have, you know, to let North Africans take over the whole country.
	Why not?
	I think your point about, or hearing, which I didn't say, which is you don't need to be a terrorist to take over a country.
	Maybe that was just in my mind.
	I was just already thinking that way.
	It was totally in your mind.
	Yeah, but it's also true.
	You know, some say the Russians, that this was their plan with the United States.
	What's happening in Europe?
	And, you know, I finally did get people to talk about Trump.
	And they all are like, wow man, it's completely insane, completely nuts.
	And what's interesting is that, and now they're friends of mine, but still every single one of them, I say, well, you know, maybe we should look at it this way.
	And I just give a few examples of, you know, media bias and how the news works and how that's communicated in the local press.
	And then they all go, yeah, okay, yeah, I guess it could make some sense.
	And then all you have to do is just say, and, you know, I don't know, but we've had less terrorist attacks than you, so we're ahead of the game there.
	And I always say, well, how come nothing's happened here?
	Isn't it time for something to happen in the Netherlands?
	And shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
	The reason why is because the Dutch authorities know that it's a transit country.
	They know they're around and they come through.
	But we don't want to do anything.
	This is a safe haven, you see.
	This is the thinking.
	Safe haven.
	So they can travel to Belgium or to France or to Germany or wherever they want to go.
	No problem.
	You have a terrorist attack in Holland and they shut everything down.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	It would be an inconvenience.
	It's kind of a bit of collusion in a way.
	Well, kind of.
	Well, honestly, I have to...
	I think it's totally a wink.
	Let me say it up front, adamatkurry.com.
	This is, in a way, old-school Dutch culture.
	You know, collaborators.
	Not all, I'm generalizing, but in the war, there were issues here in the Netherlands.
	A lot of people flipped and were working for the Germans.
	Again, Adam at Curry.com.
	Despite the bikes.
	Well, who knew?
	Anyway, let's play the last of this.
	And the reason I put these Italian clips together is because you're going to Italy and you can give us a direct report.
	It'll be very interesting.
	You better believe I'm gonna.
	While Italy says it's tired of bearing the brunt of migrants, French police have been using drones and dogs to hunt down those trying to slip over the border from Italy into France.
	In Zubria University, history professor Paolo Bernardini says it's time for Italy's European partners to do more to deal with the crisis.
	Yeah, but that's not politicians.
	That's professors and other people who just shut up.
	They put a cork on Italy.
	They can't get into France.
	They can't get into the countries.
	Austria's got the armed border.
	They've got armored tanks.
	They've got all kinds of stuff.
	And the Swiss aren't taking anybody.
	But let me tell you.
	Let me tell you.
	You get a couple hundred thousand migrants there at the border.
	15,000 guys are not going to stop.
	I don't care what you got.
	Well, you start shooting, the migrants aren't going to do much.
	This is bad optics, by the way.
	Shooting unarmed migrants.
	You start shooting, and those guys aren't going to stick around.
	Well...
	Yeah, it's bad optics.
	You can rig it so it sounds like the migrants started the shooting.
	I mean, there's some ways of doing it, but...
	The countries that aren't taking anybody...
	It's going to be interesting to see how this resolves, because at some point, Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic...
	They're going to have to, or they're going to get kicked out of the clubs.
	No, I don't think so.
	Apparently, they don't have to, and they're not going to.
	Right, but the pressure's going to be pretty big.
	Sanctions are coming, maybe?
	Well, it's not going to do...
	What are the Polish people going to say after they were promised to get these visas?
	They didn't even get that.
	Yeah.
	So do we have to take migrants to get the visas?
	No.
	You're not giving us the visas anyway.
	You're just a bunch of liars.
	If Trump goes over there and gives a speech and doesn't get them the visa clearance waiver, the only country in the Schengen area that doesn't have it, then they're just going to get more adamant about things.
	I find this to be a big mistake.
	It's a big mistake.
	I mean, bringing all the migrants in at once, you think it's a big mistake?
	All of it's a mistake.
	This whole European Union is a mistake.
	Oh, yeah.
	You've got to hear this.
	Now we have a rift between the completely powerless European Parliament, and they truly are powerless, Yes, they're designed to be powerless.
	They can't make laws.
	They can't really pass the laws.
	They can only hand out yellow cards.
	You know, hey, I disagree with it, so maybe you can change it, please, pretty please.
	And the Starfleet Command...
	It's a giant advisory board.
	Exactly.
	Advisory board.
	Not even the board of directors, just advisory board.
	Yeah, no board power, just advisory board.
	The lowest of the low.
	So the European Commission, Starfleet Command, they have the power.
	And Junker the Drunker comes down and talks to everybody at the parliament, but only a handful of people showed up, and it really pissed them off.
	I would like to welcome those that have actually taken the trouble to turn out this morning.
	But the fact that there's about 30 members of Parliament, presidents in this debate, only really illustrates the fact that Parliament is not serious in this.
	And I'm putting that to you today.
	If Mr.
	Muscat and Mrs.
	Merkel...
	Difficult to imagine that.
	Oh, Mr.
	Macron, perhaps.
	If it had been here, it would have been for...
	Mr.
	President, could you please have a more respectful attitude?
	You may criticize the Parliament.
	Yes, but the Commission does not control the Parliament.
	It's the Parliament that should be controlling the Commission.
	Thank you.
	Now, this is very important, what this guy just said.
	He says, could you please be a little more respectful towards the European Parliament, because you don't control us, we control you.
	And this guy is going, he knows the facade, Juncker, but he's going to let him know that he doesn't believe it.
	Commission.
	Thank you.
	There are only a few members in the plan to control the commission.
	You are ridiculous.
	I wanted to pay tribute to the Maltese.
	Senor Presidente.
	Mr.
	President, I would ask you please to change your language.
	We are not ridiculous.
	Please.
	Please.
	We're not ridiculous!
	We're not!
	I will never again, I will never, I will never again attend a meeting of this kind.
	This, I'm taking my sand buckets and I'm going hum.
	There you go.
	That is exactly how it works.
	You have to give yourself a clip of the day for that.
	I can't believe that clip.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Unbelievable.
	This is the kind of nerve that you end up getting when a system is established where bureaucrats, technocrats in this case, in fact, these are the same technocrats that are predicted in the book The Technological Society by Jacques Elluel.
	Oh.
	This is the kind...
	This is the kind of thing that happens, and they get, and what happens is they, and this happens, by the way, in government agencies that are all kangaroo courts for all practical purposes.
	I have worked for one.
	They get arrogant as hell.
	And that is unbelievable that Junker would do that.
	Nobody wanted to listen to him.
	Nobody showed up.
	And so he condemns And then somebody says, you shouldn't condemn us.
	And then he says, we are the bosses and they're not, which is a joke.
	And Junker just tells him, no, you're not the bosses.
	It's ridiculous.
	You're a ridiculous little man, is what he should have said.
	Yeah, yeah, there you go.
	There's your future, globalists, right there.
	Summarized.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John, see what the C stands for.
	Can we starve them?
	Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to...
	You, Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs, and the water.
	And in the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	In the morning to all of our artists who always faithfully check in at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And we want to thank our, let me see, it was, let me just go there, episode 943, Ed Mubarak.
	And, oh yes, this was good art.
	This was brought to us by Conan Salada.
	It was the Dangerous Magazines, a stack of magazines explosive on top because, you know, magazines now need to be looked at by TSA. Yeah.
	By the way, I've noticed since we used Ed Mubarak, we've never heard again back from...
	Dude named Muhammad?
	Sir Anonymous from Dogpatch?
	Now he hates us?
	He's done.
	He hates us now?
	Oh, shit.
	Did we insult him?
	I think he ran out of spending money.
	Oh, that's possible.
	I just hope we didn't insult him.
	We're just kidding.
	Nanu, nanu.
	Humor.
	And now I don't think he's insulted.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm just joking.
	I'm also trying to open the spreadsheet.
	Oh, okay.
	You're covering is what you're doing.
	Well, we have an instant night.
	I'm stretching.
	Is there an instant night that we have here?
	What do we have here?
	Yes, we do.
	In fact, I want to mention this, and I have a note from him, which I printed out.
	Let me get it.
	I keep...
	This is an organizational thing...
	You have to just excuse.
	Benjamin Howard came in from Surrey Hills for $1,000.
	And he wrote a note in.
	You got your pencil?
	I do.
	This donation is for a damehood.
	So he's not going to be knighted.
	Oh, okay.
	Let me read this.
	This is good.
	He's from New Zealand, I think.
	No, New South Wales.
	Australia.
	This donation is for a damehood for my freeloading wife, Karen Howard.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Freeloading wife, Karen Howard.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	Does she have a dame name?
	No, he doesn't give her a name.
	Dame freeloading?
	No, let's not do that.
	She probably resents this comment.
	I'm sure she does.
	It will be good to know she's paid her way after all these years of listening, so she's a big fan of the show, apparently.
	Well, you know, she is very smart, and she lets him donate, and she's protecting the purse for the household.
	She likes to go on vacation or something.
	That's a very healthy attitude between the two of them.
	Right.
	Well, it'd be good to know she's paid her way after all these years of listening, even if it has been through my birthday present to her.
	It's a birthday present, so she should be put on the birthday list.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so that is...
	I got it.
	Benjamin Howard.
	And he says, happy birthday to his wife.
	Do we have a date?
	An age?
	No.
	No, we got nothing.
	All right.
	And he just says, please make sure to knight her, not me.
	Thanks for all the excellent...
	I had to actually write him to get this note.
	Okay.
	Because he just sent us $1,000.
	And here's kind of an issue...
	This came into the old account, the old PayPal account, and it's kind of problematic, and I've got to find out where he clicked on.
	Yeah, where did he get the link from, yeah.
	Well, you know, PayPal has the, you know, send this again in your activity.
	Oh, maybe.
	I think that may be what's going on.
	I don't remember him doing this before, but it's possible.
	Anyway, so that's all, and we want to thank him and give him some karma.
	He didn't ask for much of anything.
	Of course.
	You've got karma.
	Loud karma.
	Loud karma in cars.
	Sir Dwayne Melanson, Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest in Tigard, Oregon, 7-11-17, up in the ante on the whole thing.
	ITM, gentlemen, I've been off the grid for a bit.
	Oh, he has a clip.
	He has an introduction.
	We have to introduce him.
	He's a Grand Duke.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, Sir Dwayne Melanson.
	That's right, everybody.
	The only podcast that has producers bring their own jingle.
	His own jingle.
	Fantastic.
	He says, unless somebody does something better, because he was disappointed.
	I don't know.
	I like this.
	This is a good one.
	I like it.
	He has two of a closer.
	Yeah, he has a...
	It's good.
	It's short and sweet.
	Now, is that him?
	Is he doing that?
	I don't think so.
	Whoever, that's a great...
	Who is that?
	That's a great voice.
	I like that voice.
	Yeah, it's a good voice.
	It's a very punchy voice.
	I like it a lot.
	Punchy voice.
	Punchy, punchy voice.
	ITM gentlemen, I've been off the grid for a while, so here's my value for value to catch me up and help out a bit in the doldrums of summer.
	Due to the lack of interest from our producer community, I've turned to Fiverr Oh, he went to Fiverr.
	That's one of the Fiverr guys.
	Oh, Fiverr.
	We've done a couple of videos using Fiverr.
	Yes.
	F-I-V-E-R-R dot com.
	I've attached a couple of options which either will be acceptable or will irritate someone enough to create a better one for me.
	I like that.
	That should be the voice of the show.
	I like that guy's voice.
	Yeah, let's find out who it is.
	I've been enjoying the exposés of late on the Bigdala Syndrome.
	It makes me think of the aliens from the Star Trek episode with Captain Pike from the olden days.
	Keep up the great work and please give karma to all producers and a stay woke.
	My millennials, stay woke!
	You've got karma.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, Sir Dwayne Melanson.
	This guy, he's British, but it's...
	Yeah.
	It's got that slight British, which is really cool.
	Yeah, it's very cool.
	I agree.
	Keep him.
	He's a keeper.
	So we have three executive producers and three associate executive producers for one of our balanced shows.
	And their last executive producer is Oliver Cole in Berlin, Deutschland.
	33338.
	Speak of the devil.
	Mm-hmm.
	Thanks for all the years of entertainment and media deconstruction and from keeping my amygdala from getting out of shape.
	I've been a huge boner for years.
	Adam introduced me to podcasting with his daily source code back in the older and crunchier days and I have been an avid listener to No Agenda from the very beginning.
	It needed a strong and beautiful woman to finally make me donate to your show.
	Huh.
	After hitting my smoking hot girl in the mouth over a year ago, she threatened me on a continuous base with a douchebag call-out.
	I'm going to call you out as a douchebag if you don't give those guys some money.
	Finally, I had to lean in.
	Also, because tomorrow...
	Oh, tomorrow's her birthday.
	Please add her to the birthday list.
	I don't know if that's on there or not.
	I don't think so.
	It doesn't have a name.
	Let me see.
	She doesn't have a name?
	Well, I don't see it on here.
	And what's his name?
	Oliver Cole.
	Yeah, his smoking hot girlfriend.
	Yeah, it's on the list.
	Oh, it's on the list.
	On that note, I should mention that she is working for Deutsche Welle.
	She knows Helena Humphrey.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, boy.
	Helena Humphrey, has she blocked us yet?
	Has she blocked us yet, Helena Humphrey?
	No, no.
	I think she follows us.
	So it's very much our fault that Helena got, at least last time I looked, I was being followed by her.
	I follow her, too.
	That Helena got back on you on Twitter after you mentioned her.
	Mea culpa, but we enjoyed it very much.
	Big smiley face.
	I guess there's issues there somehow and some way.
	Could you please play the following jingles for us?
	We're all gonna die.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, guy.
	Two to the head and a de-douching.
	Alright, and I'll throw in an extra karma just for good meaning.
	We're all going to die.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Associate Executive Producers coming up, Simon Palawada, I guess, in the U.S. somewhere.
	$208.
	I'd like to give a huge thanks to Sir Brian of Northern Connecticut for hitting me in the mouth right before the election.
	I only wish he did it sooner.
	I feel shameful for listening without donating, so here's $208 for the timestamp of my well-deserved douchebag call-out from a few episodes ago.
	More importantly, thank you Adam and JCD for a wonderful analysis of the media.
	If only the M5M provided the valuable insight you do, then maybe brains wouldn't explode when presented with facts.
	Keep up the good work with the perfect mix of outright laughter in each episode.
	Can I get JCD 3x3?
	Yet to hear this and cannot find it.
	And JCD Mac and Cheese and Pink Floyd's Money War on Cash.
	Okay, I think I have them.
	What is it?
	Mac and cheese.
	I think this is what it is.
	And now it's time for 3x3.
	Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. NBC. The never-ending three-by-three.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Shatter, melt together.
	Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
	Monday, you better have sex, cause there's a war on cats.
	You've got karma.
	time.
	Nice combo.
	Yeah, actually, it was pretty good.
	It was a float one.
	Robert Marsh, $202.02.
	He's in Hartsell, Alabama.
	Hello, my name is Robert.
	You know, the only higher office holder from Alabama ever was Franklin Pierce's vice president, who, curiously, it's believed, was an early podcaster.
	He was one of the early lovers of James Buchanan, our first gay president.
	Wait a minute.
	Obama wasn't the first gay president?
	No, not by the long shot.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	I think he may be the first Muslim president, but not James Buchanan.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	John at Dvorak.org.
	Hey.
	What are you going to do?
	Nothing.
	Robert Marsh in Hartzell, Alabama.
	Hello, my name is Robert.
	I'm a 21-year-old college student getting an accounting degree, and I've been listening to y'all for about six months now, and I've finally decided to donate to the best podcast in the, he says world, but he knows its universe.
	So please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	I wish I would have found this podcast years ago.
	I saved up to get the producer credit because my mom complains I don't have enough crap on my resume.
	Wait a minute.
	Let that sink in for a second.
	This is great.
	His resume is too thin.
	So as a smart young man, he is getting an associate executive producer credit for his resume.
	I never even thought I considered this.
	This is a great idea.
	It's a great idea.
	And it's a fact.
	True story.
	Hashtag.
	No, it's a fact that it will give you help.
	Yeah.
	And it's a fact that you're an executive producer.
	Yeah.
	It's a real credit.
	It's a real credit.
	Anyway, it goes on.
	I gave up smoking grass to donate.
	Wow, wow, that's dedication, man.
	So I hope Adam especially appreciates my sacrifice for this show.
	Thank you for your courage.
	And by the way, I roll joints very well, contrary to the info both of you have given about my generation and Americans, and I prefer the short, fat joints because they smoke more like cigarettes.
	I'm not sure what I'm going to do or how I'm going to cope when your podcast ends.
	Is he Nostradamus now?
	But I think I came up with a solution.
	It's a solution for this problem that would make our president proud.
	You both should consider getting podcast apprentices and I would be the first to throw in my hat into the ring for that position.
	If you're interested in hiring me, I graduate next May and I'd be more than willing to relocate either to Austin or Silicon Valley to study under one of you anyway.
	Or as he puts it, anyways...
	Keep up the good work and please play Putin's Putin's Putin's Don't Worry, Be Happy Some Russian Cyber Attack Pew Pews And some karma for school, because I have two 18-hour semesters in the fall and spring to graduate.
	Thank you both for all you do.
	Now, he wanted the Putin, the Pew-Pews, and there was something else there?
	Yeah, the Putin singing, and no, just the karma for school.
	And I'll give him some card.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	You've got karma.
	You know, on Reddit, they would give me crap about, he doesn't even know that that's not the CrowdStrike map, that's the benefit map.
	You know, oh man, on Reddit, it's so sad to see what's happening to people's heads.
	Yeah, it doesn't bother me.
	I never looked at it.
	Oh, no, I'm sad about it.
	It's sad.
	Um, yeah.
	It's...
	I don't know.
	You know, if you look at this and you analyze and you go back to the days of CompuServe and all the rest of it in the late 70s and early 80s, I don't see a difference.
	I don't see a difference.
	No, and online communities always implode.
	Always.
	Always.
	Doesn't matter what the topic is.
	It always implodes.
	Yes, always.
	In fact, I remember a really massive one that was in Parti when Parti was around, which was, I believe, CompuServe.
	It might have been the source.
	I can't.
	I think it's CompuServe.
	It may have been the source.
	Anyway, Parti, P-A-R-T-I, which was short for Participate, developed these huge communities, and everybody was just out of control because people actually thought that these people were being not lying, and one person got arrested for drug dealing, and the whole community fell apart because she had been Putting everybody on about who she really was, and they started defending her when she was a criminal, and then the whole thing dissolved.
	It was the damnedest thing I've ever witnessed.
	Anyway, Mike Harrington is our last associate executive producer, $200, and he's from Parts Unknown, and he wrote in a note.
	He sent a check, wrote in a note.
	Okay.
	Block letters.
	I've been a regular listener since last summer, and this is my first donation, so I need a serious de-douching.
	Yes, here it comes.
	You've been de-douched.
	This next little phrase is interesting.
	I first heard your show in 2014, but it made no sense to me because I was infirmly entrenched in dimension B, is what he meant to say, but he wrote dimension A, but he meant B. He meant B, yeah.
	I had yet to woke.
	Please accept my donation.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Oh my God.
	I actually read on the Reddit, they used to be woke, but not anymore.
	I'm like, okay.
	Whatever that means.
	Stop using the word.
	Please accept my donation and sincere apology for waiting so long to reciprocate the tremendous value I receive twice weekly.
	You guys help keep me sane.
	We try.
	Common theme.
	We try.
	I would like to give a friendly shout out to your tuber, to the YouTuber, Conspiracy Scope, which faithfully uploads your shows on a regular basis.
	Huh.
	I convert Cscope's uploads to audio files and then transfer them to my iPod Shuffle before I hike down into the Grand Canyon for my nine-day work tour.
	Wow.
	Yes.
	I work for the Park Service and gleefully listen to your show as I hike around the inner canyon to clean and service the composting toilets.
	Excellent!
	What?
	And quit show business?
	And in addition to my monetary donation, I would like to open my apartment to you guys and any No Agenda listeners who would like a free place to stay on the South Rim while visiting the Grand Canyon.
	I bet that's fantastic.
	Please read my email address on the air so folks can contact me.
	Only folks, though.
	Only folks.
	Folks, that's the folks.
	Now, I'm hoping that this is not a scam to just build up somebody.
	Yeah, we're not doxing the ranger.
	Doxing some guy.
	Michael, M-I-C-H-A-L dot J dot Harrington one.
	Number one, not the, in other words, the character one.
	Michael J Harrington one at gmail.com.
	Okay.
	And he would like to hear the jingles, fish.
	Oh, God.
	And pew pew, again, again, a random number at work, pew pew pew pew, thanks your friend Mike Harrington.
	Wow.
	Let me see, do I just have a plain old fish?
	Do we have that?
	Or was it bana fish or something like that?
	I don't remember.
	I don't know what he's talking about, to be honest about it.
	Well, I think he's talking about the Syrian girl.
	He's like, you know, do you like Lebanon?
	And she says fish.
	Does your French remember?
	I vaguely remember.
	Yes, I do remember that.
	What's her name?
	Bana?
	I think it's Bana, isn't it?
	Let me see.
	Oh, right.
	It's that girl that's always being promoted.
	I can't remember.
	Sana?
	I thought it was Sana.
	No, I got it.
	It's Bana.
	It's Bana.
	I don't have that ISOed.
	Listen to the clip.
	Of course, sometimes I speak fast, and I have a South African accent.
	My name is Imran.
	I have a South African accent, so sometimes you won't understand me, and that's okay.
	Your mom Fatima will help out.
	Okay, you can speak in Arabic, or you can speak in English.
	And of course, we have Nuseiba on the side.
	And of course, no agenda listeners know that she doesn't speak any English at all, or she doesn't understand any English at all whatsoever.
	So if you really don't understand me, you can ask Museva and she can help.
	This is child abuse.
	Okay?
	It is.
	Now I have one question for you before we talk to everybody else.
	Here we go.
	Before everybody else's questions come in.
	Do you like the food in Istanbul?
	Yes.
	What do you like?
	Save the children of Syria.
	Yeah.
	Do you like Istanbul?
	Istanbul should have a bit like him.
	It's fish.
	Do you like...
	It's a classic.
	I gotta ISO it though, that's for sure.
	Thanks for bringing that back.
	You've got karma.
	Do like Istanbul.
	Fish!
	Child abuse.
	That includes our balanced executive, associate executive producer show for show nine.
	$944.
	$944.
	That's right.
	And thank you very much.
	These are real credits.
	You heard it right here.
	This is being used to juice up a resume.
	Very smart, young man.
	Remember, we will be thanking more people, $50 or more, in the second segment.
	Of course, we have another show coming up on Thursday.
	No, on Sunday.
	Sorry.
	And that will be from Italy, and hopefully you'll be able to bring a report.
	So remember us for then.
	And like you hear people writing in, I'll be over here as well propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Squirrels!
	Shut up, slaves!
	Shut up, slaves!
	I just want to play...
	Actually, I'm sorry.
	I had two PR mentions.
	I'm sorry.
	PR mention number one from Wes.
	Funny anecdote.
	My mom was helping clean out my grandfather's house last week up in Vermont.
	Found this old handheld Panasonic radio.
	As she's flipping around on the AM band, she hears your voices.
	Takes her a minute to figure out what she's listening to, then recognizes who it is.
	She's listened once or twice in my car.
	So I guess someone's blasting N.A. in either Northeastern New York or Western Vermont somewhere on the AM bands.
	Keep up the good work!
	How about that?
	Yes, I wrote him back saying it would be nice to know where this was coming from because if they're actually putting it out censored, bleeped is the word I use.
	Yes.
	I'd like to get a hold of these copies.
	We need a copy.
	If we can get bleeped versions of the show consistently done, we can probably distribute to a lot of small stations that be played at 3 in the morning in places that don't have any other programming.
	Yeah.
	But they'll play it.
	We can get a lot of plays on the regular airwaves for free.
	Yeah.
	Spins.
	Airplay.
	And our pitch is embedded because it's a donation-based show, so we don't care.
	Hey, I just had an idea.
	I'll bet you.
	I know the guy that has started up Radio Mi Amigo.
	It's back on the air again.
	Not every day, but they do shortwave broadcasts.
	And they reach the U.S., but mainly Europe.
	I'm sure he'd love to put our show on.
	Great.
	Yeah, blasting out with 100 kilowatts.
	We had one of our producers once before that was bleeping the show for us.
	And then it was being broadcast in parts of Illinois, South Chicago.
	And then, I don't know, something happened and he stopped doing it and I stopped pushing it.
	It was my screw-up, actually, I believe.
	But I would like to get that started again.
	It'd be great.
	Because I know a lot of stations have time to fill.
	And they're not getting anyone buying...
	Small stations, usually.
	Right.
	You know, they don't have to go off the air.
	They can put something on.
	Yeah.
	Well, the next piece of PR is very interesting.
	I'm sure you have followed the 4chan-CNN war that has now apparently just blasted off.
	Yes, I know about it, but I've not followed it.
	Ah.
	Well, they've doxed a number of members of the on-air staff, including the overnight legend, Don Lemon.
	And so, you know, with cell phone numbers and stuff, and so that's now all out there.
	And one of our producers sent me a screenshot from his Android phone, I think, to Don Lemon, a text message.
	Don, you should listen to the No Agenda Show.
	They love to talk about you.
	They call you the overnight sensation.
	Very flattering.
	Noagendashow.com.
	That's a good use of doxing information.
	I think that is outstanding.
	Yeah.
	Doing someone a favor.
	Yes.
	Now, I do have a couple of cool clips from CNN of just people coming unhinged over the, well, I guess it's now a twofer.
	We have the Mika tweet, but, you know, the slamming CNN. This is, oh my goodness, you were so right.
	I had no idea how off the hook it is.
	Here's a bunch of CNNers all talking about this tweet.
	Okay, so Sally, the right to fight back.
	He's beat up on...
	Oh yeah, Sally Cohn.
	Oh my goodness.
	This is one of the rare occasions where I wish we could show video along with this.
	Her amygdala is humongous.
	She is so mad and so just, you know, fuming.
	And who's the little blonde girl that is the token Republican on CNN? Yeah, you know.
	Who is a lawyer and a lawyer and really smart.
	I don't want to put her down.
	But anyway, she has a, you know, she's like, ah, this is just a joke, you know, unadvisable, but just a joke.
	And there's Brian Seltzerwater and Sally Cohn, and she's just fuming.
	Okay, so Sally, the right to fight back, he's beat up on, so, you know, this is the cue for him to respond.
	I mean, how do you see this from the President of the United States?
	Let me make a point and then ask a question.
	So, I actually can't believe this is happening.
	She can't breathe.
	She can't breathe, John.
	I mean, this is physical.
	She's hyperventilating and she's going um to kind of get your breath.
	She's a television professional, but she's so...
	She's probably shaking, too.
	Yeah, I think so.
	She can't breathe.
	I mean, this is an emotion.
	This is a very severe reaction she's having, and it's not healthy.
	Just say...
	I actually can't believe this is happening.
	It was Donald Trump who said that Barack Obama wasn't a citizen of this country.
	It was Republicans who said he had...
	I just want to correct you, Sally, because this is another thing I keep hearing.
	He said maybe not a natural-born citizen.
	It's different than a citizen of this country.
	I just want to point that out.
	And he was not the first person to do that.
	No, it was the Clinton campaign.
	She started it.
	We know who started it.
	It was Donald Trump who said that Barack Obama wasn't a citizen of this country.
	It was Republicans who said he had a Kenyan colonialist mindset.
	That, by the way, I've never heard, but I like it a lot.
	Yes, I have heard it, but I don't believe it came from the Republicans.
	I've never heard it.
	I like it because it's alliteration.
	You know, Kenyan colonial mindset.
	Perfect.
	Kenyan colonialist mindset that literally questioned his legitimacy to even be in the White House.
	And not like we haven't heard that the past year.
	Unfit, unfit, unfit.
	Literally, literally questioning the legitimacy of this president.
	In the White House, had President Obama gone to a veterans event, Kayleigh, a veterans event, and used that event to attack the media, you'd be all over with anger about that.
	And guess what?
	He got roaring applause.
	Now it's my turn.
	It's my turn.
	I love it when they do that.
	It's my turn.
	You be quiet.
	It's my turn.
	I listen to you.
	It's my turn.
	So I can't believe you can defend this.
	I mean, really?
	Is there no...
	So my question is, is there no line?
	Like, if that had been a picture not of the CNN logo or a video not of the CNN logo, but it had been Jake Tapper's head he was punching.
	Oh, that would have been an improvement.
	This would have been a great video.
	Well, I love your ideas, Sally.
	You should drop them in the suggestion box.
	...of the CNN logo.
	But it had been Jake Tapper's head he was punching.
	Would that cross a line for you?
	What if it was a picture of Donald Trump holding a bloodied CNN logo up?
	When does it cross the line?
	When does it cross the line?
	So when does it cross the line?
	This is her issue.
	She feels that a line was crossed.
	With this stupid, by the way, low-grade, man, really poor quality video.
	You appear to have a listening problem, Sally, because I said it was not advisable for him to send that out.
	And you defended it!
	And you defended it!
	You said it was just a joke!
	I said it was not advisable.
	Yes, it was just a joke.
	And by the way, you should take an N-word look, because the Hollywood liberal...
	Now, what is she saying?
	An N-word look?
	Oh, inward.
	Inward.
	Jeez, I'm contaminated.
	Inward.
	Hollywood liberal elite are the ones calling for the assassination of the president.
	Johnny Depp said something along those lines.
	And Kathy Griffin caught up the president's head.
	It's the Hollywood liberal elite and the media that gets taken in trouble.
	I have not heard you.
	I have condemned Chris Matthews.
	Okay, what about Chris Matthews?
	What about Chris Matthews?
	So, wait a minute.
	So, we're now having the conversation about justification, it sounds like.
	This is the direction that we're going, Kayleigh and Sally, that we're saying it's justifiable on the condition that dot dot dot or fill in the blanks.
	But really the question here is, this is the President of the United States, and when the President speaks, whether it be via tweet or in any other fashion, Well, you know, it is to be taken very seriously, but now we're also hearing from people who are saying, no, take it as a joke.
	Yes, we're so confused.
	There's a lot of this.
	There's a lot of this confusion.
	But if it's from the at POTUS account, then we have to take it seriously.
	We don't know what to do.
	Here's seltzer water.
	Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary, had some tweets that I just want to get your impression of.
	He said...
	I never minded a good fight with the press.
	It's part of our democracy to disagree, but this goes too far.
	Number two, some will think it's funny.
	I find it in poor taste.
	Number three, the reason the president does it is because the press has made themselves so unpopular.
	It's a fight the president actually wins with much of the country.
	So that's the part that I want to ask you about, Brian, very quickly.
	Again, is there any soul searching to be done from the press about what does he mean that we've made ourselves so unpopular?
	What are we doing that is making us have such low...
	What could it be?
	What are we doing that makes us unpopular?
	I don't understand.
	Approval ratings with the public.
	There has been soul searching.
	There should be more soul searching.
	Partly, these are self-inflicted wounds over the course of decades, but a lot of the reasons for distrust of media has to do with politicians like President Trump telling people not to trust the media.
	We could do a better job telling our own story and explaining how this is real news, not fake news.
	Ah, fantastic.
	But nothing quite beats the monologue, the diatribe, the rant from Anna Navarro of CNN. Oh, she's the worst.
	No, the best.
	Best ever.
	Best ever.
	I am.
	Incredibly bothered that we are lowering the standards and the requisites of what it takes to be president of the United States in terms of character, in terms of behavior.
	It is very difficult to focus on policy when you've got somebody that is so diminishing and damaging and making such harm to the office of the presidency.
	No weekend like July 4th should remind us just how hard it was to establish this country.
	Just how hard it was to establish this country.
	Just imagine.
	It was to establish this country.
	Just what this democracy represents.
	Men like Washington, like Lincoln, have held that office.
	This is not modern-day presidential.
	It is modern-day crass.
	It is modern-day coarseness.
	It is modern-day one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
	I think that a lot of people are in distress at seeing a president that is a man baby.
	A man baby.
	And has thick skin like an onion.
	That can't take criticism.
	I'm distressed at seeing the inconsistent standards that people apply according to party.
	Okay.
	If this was Barack Obama tweeting these things out, Republicans would have their hair on fire.
	They'd be calling for impeachment by now.
	Isn't that exactly, isn't that completely bipartisan then?
	You're doing the same thing.
	Am I missing something here?
	This is very odd.
	Of course!
	What I'm hearing from her, and she is the political...
	She's like one of the top political analysts, supposedly.
	I am hearing nothing but hate.
	Oh, total hate.
	She's not done.
	I can't see this being a valuable person that can objectively look at any of this stuff.
	And again, I would point this out, that all these opinion makers...
	That are on these shows, and I would point specifically at Shields and Brooks.
	Yeah.
	They're all on the same side of the argument.
	There has to be somebody besides, you know, they'll bring out some blondie.
	No, no, they bring out the old guy, Jeffrey Lord.
	Bring out, well, bring out somebody that consistently...
	Without getting bent out of shape, consistently explain what might be going on from the other's perspective.
	Yeah, but that would ruin the ratings.
	Well, no, CNN's ratings are...
	Ruined already.
	They're no good.
	It's MSNBC that's picked up the pace.
	Fox has fallen off.
	We'll see how this shakes out.
	People are getting sick of this stuff, I think.
	I can hear more of Navarro.
	Republicans would have their hair on fire.
	They'd be calling for impeachment by now.
	And it happens on the other side, too.
	There has got to be consistency on the character that we require.
	So, whether the changes or not...
	Now, Obama is...
	A funny guy.
	He can do stand-up.
	He can deliver lines.
	He delivers lines very well.
	He can deliver a line.
	He's got good timing.
	He has...
	He could do these same tweets that Trump's I would argue, if I was on this panel, nobody would be asking for impeachment.
	They'd just be putting up with these tweets.
	These are all one letters.
	This guy's trying to be funny most of the time.
	And Obama would be, they'd shine it out.
	Okay, well, you know, there's another crazy tweet by Obama.
	I don't think they would go as ballistic.
	I don't think the Republicans would give a crap.
	Oh, interesting.
	You don't think the Republicans would go nuts about it?
	Not the way the Democrats are going nuts and they're hysterical because for one thing, when Obama was in office, there was not this Hillary situation Where everybody was like so all in for Hillary that they had hysterical fits and publicly cried over her losing.
	And that's what's triggering all this continued activity.
	The Republicans never had that.
	And I think they just tolerate it.
	They wouldn't be calling for his impeachment.
	I think that's bullcrap.
	Interesting.
	You could be right.
	You could be right.
	Maybe one day we'll find out.
	...that we require.
	So whether it changes or not, whether Donald Trump changes or not, and believe me, I know changing a 70-year-old man is not easy.
	An ageist.
	An ageist.
	Did she say 70 or 7?
	70.
	But why do we have to believe her?
	Because she knows it.
	What, is she married to a 70-year-old guy?
	Seems unlikely.
	Oh, she says, believe me, something like that.
	Like she's an expert.
	I think she's an expert.
	That's what it is.
	A 70-year-old man is not easy.
	That does not mean you stop calling for the change, because the moment we get numb to this, the moment we get complacent and accept this, then we have agreed to lower the standard of what the person representing the United States of America to our children, to our allies, to our foreign foes represents.
	Foreign foes?
	Kind of odd.
	I don't know what a foreign foe.
	Do we have foreign foes?
	Does maybe.
	Who's our foreign foes?
	Why do we give a crap what they think if they're foes?
	Yeah, I think she's making it up.
	Maybe she means Russia?
	Allies to our foreign foes represents.
	That is not acceptable and we cannot do it.
	I think the foreign foes are probably like, that guy's crazy.
	Let's stay away from America.
	That's what the foreign foes are probably thinking.
	For an American, you have got to defend the standards of the presidency of the United States.
	Here's an incitement to violence.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	This is the best part.
	This is her wrap-up.
	You have got to defend the standards of the presidency of the United States.
	I want to get that whole bit in there, because it's your duty as a citizen.
	Children, to our allies, to our foreign foes, represents.
	That is not acceptable, and we cannot do it.
	If you are an American, you have got to defend the standards of the presidency of the United States.
	It is an incitement to violence.
	He is going to get somebody killed in the media.
	Maybe that will stop him.
	Hmm.
	Meanwhile, of course, the guy who was shot by a Democrat had to go back into the hospital because he's dying.
	And so who's inciting violence?
	I think this kind of talk, especially from people like her, she's the one who's inciting violence.
	These guys have to get their act together.
	They're inciting violence.
	Trump is just a goofball as far as I'm concerned when it comes to these tweets.
	Well, he's distracting everybody.
	Well, he's definitely doing a great job of that.
	The one thing from my EU report, from my Dutch Lowlands report, bar none, every single person, wow, are you worried about North Korea?
	Oh my God!
	Yes, and you happen to write that in the newsletter.
	Sorry, we were sick, so I didn't get the proof.
	I'm like, are you kidding me?
	Yeah, that guy's crazy.
	His rockets, the intercontinental ballistic missile, they're going to hit us or hit you.
	They're completely terrorized.
	And I have to say, it is incessantly in the news here.
	I'm sure it's the same in the U.S. But do people not realize this is just theater?
	Clearly they don't.
	Clearly they don't.
	I got some North Korea stuff here.
	Let's play some PBS stuff.
	Let's start with this Korea and the U.N. CBS report.
	Korea and the U.N. Yeah, I got it here.
	Well, the U.S. raised the possibility of military force at the United Nations today.
	More now on America's options from Ben Tracy.
	One of our capabilities lies with our considerable military forces.
	We will use them if we must.
	At an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council, Ambassador Nikki Haley said the U.S. will propose tougher sanctions against North Korea, including restricting oil imports and cutting off sources of hard currency.
	Today is a dark day.
	It is a dark day because yesterday's actions by North Korea made the world a more dangerous place.
	Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Moscow and announced that they oppose any use of force against North Korea or sanctions that would strangle its economy.
	China is North Korea's main ally and accounts for more than 80% of its trade.
	To pressure the North into ending its missile tests, China has stopped buying North Korean coal.
	But it has not cut off oil shipments to North Korea.
	Hearing that could cause Kim Jong-un's regime to collapse, destabilizing the Korean Peninsula.
	The Russians and the Chinese just don't care.
	It's not their problem.
	Jeffrey Lewis is an expert on nuclear policy.
	He says without a coordinated international response, tough talk and sanctions are the only realistic weapons the U.S. has to fight North Korea.
	So I would expect that cycle to repeat.
	They'll be condemned.
	They'll be angry about it.
	They'll do a nuclear test.
	And then we'll be back to square one again.
	Lather, rinse, repeat.
	Now, this guy who came in at the end starts off, although they voiced over him, he says, I don't think China and Russia cares.
	He's like the big expert.
	Right.
	And I said, rinse, repeat.
	He does all this stuff.
	Yeah.
	This guy, I mean, did he obviously didn't hear this report because he was part of the package.
	Right.
	But the point was, I think, made clear in this report, China and Russia do care.
	Yeah.
	They just don't want to destabilize.
	And what they care about is the destabilization of this area because it's going to cause a catastrophe and millions of people could get killed.
	So they do care.
	So this guy's full of crap and he's one of the advisors that are telling people what to do.
	Sure.
	I find it very distressing.
	And he's from the UN. I don't know what they...
	You'd have to back up to see what the...
	Korea in UN CBS. Yeah.
	Well, this whole report was kind of centered around Nikki Haley, who's just in there.
	She's a divorced, by the way.
	I saw her speech.
	Now, let's go to Korea.
	We've got Korea Part 3.
	Here's the Korea Missile Rundown, I think.
	Ah, does it have lots of sound effects, or should I bring my own?
	I think there's enough.
	The United States warned today it will use military force, if necessary, against the growing nuclear threat from North Korea.
	This follows the Communist Nation's Fourth of July test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching this continent.
	We begin our coverage tonight with national security correspondent David Martin at the Pentagon.
	Kim Jong-un has kept his...
	This is the guy, the only guy I really trust.
	He seems like a spook that is...
	He's going to tell you what's going on.
	Okay, and who does he work for?
	He's a Martin character.
	He's a CBS, and he's always, of course, CBS. And I've always, I think he's the best field reporter they have.
	He's an older guy, very, I think he's well-established as a straight shooter.
	And I want to point out, the only cruise missile effect you heard was mine.
	Yeah, I was going to ask.
	There's nothing in there so far.
	There's work that you know was to fit in.
	I know.
	I'm timing it the way what they should have done.
	I'll do another one.
	...reaching this continent.
	We begin our coverage tonight with national security correspondent David Martin at the Pentagon.
	Kim Jong-un had kept his country's first intercontinental ballistic missile hidden from spy satellites until just before it was rolled into launch position and aimed into space.
	Powered by a two-stage rocket engine, it flew for 37 minutes, long enough to reach Alaska had it been aimed in that direction.
	There's no question we've crossed a threshold here in the North Koreans' ability to develop an ICBM. Leon Panetta was CIA director and defense secretary during the Obama administration.
	It's a very serious national security threat to the United States.
	U.S. intelligence first identified it as just an intermediate-range missile, which perhaps explained President Trump's initial rather flip reaction.
	A tweet asking, does this guy have anything better to do with his life?
	But David Wright of the Union of Concerned Scientists did his own calculations and got it right.
	The missile could have flown over 4,000 miles.
	I've been watching North Korea for a long time, and I'm surprised at how fast they've been able to pull out new missile designs, launch them, and despite having some failures, do relatively well.
	Wright estimates it would take North Korea another couple years to develop an ICBM that could send a 1,000-pound nuclear warhead hurtling toward the U.S. Hurtling!
	But unless something happens, the day when North Korea will have that capability is coming.
	We're going to see them reach that point and it may be sooner rather than later.
	U.S. and South Korea responded to the latest test with some missile launches of their own.
	But Panetta says it will take more than just shows of force to change Kim Jong-un's plan.
	You can't out-bully a bully in North Korea, so it doesn't make a lot of sense.
	Wait a minute!
	You can't out-bully a bully.
	Isn't the whole point of a bully is you go up and punch him in the nose?
	Yeah, it's not bullying him, it's just pressing him in the nose.
	You can't out-bully a bully in North Korea.
	So it doesn't make a lot of sense simply to sit back and threaten this leader.
	The Pentagon could, of course, make good on its threats, but nobody from the Secretary of Defense on down favors military action, which they say could lead to catastrophic loss of life.
	James?
	David Martin at the Pentagon.
	Thank you, David.
	You know what this report is?
	It's terrorism.
	It's kind of.
	It's definitely having an effect overseas, apparently, from your report.
	But a couple of things I want to mention.
	One, do you remember, I think it Last year, I think it was either the year before or three years ago, and we have clips of it, where we repositioned a bunch of ships around Hawaii because it was suspected on the 4th of July, same thing they were gonna launch a missile and hit Hawaii with it and so we put all our ships around Hawaii and then we I know I remember they had a map and they were gonna hit Austin that's what I remember no no that though
	that was just that was a different story this was a real fourth of July situation it was the fourth of July and we put move these ships over by because Hawaii was going to be attacked hmm and there's if you look at blue Do a search for Hawaii.
	I'm looking now, but I don't see any.
	I can still find it.
	I'll find it for a future show.
	It's a while ago.
	We played it actually recently, that clip.
	Well, then it's not called Hawaii.
	Well, it's just something says clip.
	Could be that.
	Let's see.
	Also tonight, American warships are tracking a North Korean vessel off the coast of China that may be carrying illegal weapons.
	Meantime, the Pentagon is beefing up our missile defense system to protect Hawaii from a North Korean missile attack.
	A Japanese newspaper reports the North may be planning to test-fire another missile, this one aimed at Hawaii on the 4th of July.
	Most analysts doubt that it could reach the islands, but Defense Secretary Robert Gates isn't taking any chances, deploying a giant radar and missile interceptors to the Hawaiian islands.
	Passengers aboard a Transit Atlantic flight from Brussels had no idea.
	How good are we?
	Sorry to spike the ball.
	Yeah, we're great.
	Yeah, we're awesome.
	But this was like two years ago or three years ago.
	I mean, this is a story.
	It always floats around the fourth.
	It's always around the fourth.
	It's just like, let's do it again.
	Let's try it again.
	Everybody loved it the last time.
	And, you know, you want to do that around the fourth.
	We got rockets, you know, and the bombs bursting in air.
	It all works together.
	It's a great giant psychological operation.
	Now, I got some other clips.
	We can play this one.
	This is the crux clip from CBS. This is Korea Part 3.
	Okay.
	China and Russia have called on North Korea to end its missile and nuclear tests, but in exchange, they want the U.S. and South Korea to end their joint military exercises.
	James, that is not something the U.S. is likely to agree to.
	Ben Tracy in Beijing.
	What exactly?
	All right.
	Now, this was an interesting clip to me because North Korea has said this publicly.
	We're sick of these saber-rattling exercises they're doing right off the North Korean coast with the US and South Korea.
	Doing these joint exercises, military exercises right there.
	And so they launched a missile and we said, you've got to stop launching these missiles.
	And the North Koreans say, well, we'll stop launching these missiles.
	If you stop exercising on our turf.
	But no, we're not even saying that.
	No, we're not going to do anything.
	So what this amounts to is we're telling you what to do and we're not going to do any quid pro quo.
	In other words, we're not giving you anything.
	What kind of a...
	What is this?
	That's not a good deal.
	We're not the rulers.
	We're not like that.
	We're not Ming the Magnificent, you know, ruling the world.
	We can tell these guys what to do and they're supposed to just obey.
	Ming the Magnificent.
	From Flash Gordon.
	Yeah.
	Ming the Magnificent.
	Fantastic.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	And I have to remind people here as well.
	You know, the war never ended in Korea.
	There's no truce.
	There's no, like, hey, it's over.
	No.
	We drew a line.
	We.
	We drew a line.
	And we gave...
	We said, it's armistice.
	We're not going to kill each other right now.
	For all practical purposes, it's a ceasefire.
	Yeah, ceasefire.
	A very long ceasefire.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	It's, you know, so there's some...
	It doesn't behoove our system or our economy or our intelligence agencies to stop the theater.
	Then we don't get to put rockets in, even though President Moon doesn't want it.
	There's no money to be made with peace.
	Seriously, what are you thinking?
	Clapper was in the bench, back testifying, and something that I finally saw corrected in the New York Times, whereas we read the documentation, we read that it was only, I think it was four, but it turns out it was actually three, intelligence agencies who signed off on the assessment about Russia.
	Yet, everywhere in the news, it was one of those things.
	No, it's 17.
	All 17.
	Here's Clapper.
	Additionally, I'll briefly address four related topics that have emerged since the ICA was produced.
	Because of both classification and some executive privilege structures requested by the White House, there are limits to what I can discuss.
	And, of course, my direct official knowledge of any of this stopped on 20 January when my term of office was happily over.
	As you know, the IC was...
	How about that, huh?
	When my term of office was happily over.
	Oh, gee, man.
	I found that to be interesting.
	Yeah, it's like, did you hate your job that much?
	Oh, I didn't realize.
	Sorry.
	...of any of this stopped on 20 January when my term of office was happily over.
	As you know, the IC was a coordinated product from three agencies, CIA, NSA, and the FBI, not all 17 components of the intelligence community.
	Those three.
	Okay.
	We can leave it at that.
	But here's what you catch on CNN. Same day.
	The other thing that was fake news coming from President Trump is when he said, well, I keep hearing it's 17 intelligence agencies that say Russia meddled in the election.
	I think it's only three or four.
	Where does that number come from?
	Where is this three or four number come from?
	My suspicion, Chris and Poppy, is that if we go to the administration and ask them for this question, I'm not so sure we're going to get an answer.
	And if we do get an answer, it'll probably be off camera.
	Well, you should go eat some crow.
	Yeah.
	Wow!
	Yeah, yeah.
	But then, the sickness has spread everywhere.
	Here's Senator Al Franken.
	Um...
	We have...
	Who just heard Clapper say this, by the way.
	In his opening statement.
	Um...
	We have, the intelligence communities have concluded, all 17 of them, that Russia interfered with this election.
	And we all know how, that's right.
	Senator, as I pointed out in my statement, Senator Franken, there were only three agencies that were directly involved in this assessment, plus my office.
	But all 17 signed on to that.
	Well, we didn't go through that process.
	This was a special situation because of the time limits.
	And what I knew to be who could really contribute to this and the sensitivity of the information, we decided it was a conscious judgment to restrict it to those three.
	I'm not aware of anyone who dissented or disagreed when it came out.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's what happens.
	That's exactly how it works.
	The news media gets in play.
	It's better.
	The media meme gets in play and it just goes over and over.
	And before you know it, it's truth.
	Russia?
	Don't worry.
	Russia?
	Oh, come on.
	Long second.
	I love this.
	you I can't get enough of it.
	I have a little entremant here.
	We talked about this.
	We didn't put it on the last show, but I'm going to put it on.
	I'm looking for more of these.
	As you know, when we were analyzing ABCs during the 3x3 era, they called it an era.
	ABC always had a couple of native ads embedded in their newscasts, usually in block.
	That's what they do.
	It was in the D block.
	Yeah, that's what they do.
	Yes.
	Well, I'm now thinking, because of the cutbacks and all the rest of it, that the news, our PBS is...
	I'm totally convinced that this...
	Well, PBS does carry commercials.
	Yes, but I believe this is a native ad because it came in out of the blue, right in the middle.
	In fact, they have the end of what they're talking about, and they go right into this little news item, which seems to me...
	And I don't know for a fact, but I'm just telling you, because it's so offbeat, it has nothing to do with what they usually do.
	Seems like a native ad as far as I'm concerned.
	The NASDAQ rose 14%, its best since 2009.
	And on a lighter note, Crayola is asking for What happened to Blue Me?
	I thought that was a favorite color.
	I thought that they actually had this little picture of the Crayolas on the screen and it said new blue underneath.
	I thought that would be a good name for a blue.
	Now, I would say typically, you know, I've seen these throwaway pieces and it seems sad that PBS NewsHour has to do a Crayola mention in lieu of content.
	But from the native ad perspective, because of what Judy says, my favorite color, what, is she in on the deal?
	Does she have a side deal?
	Is she going to announce the winning color or something of this ilk?
	I'll bet you she does.
	You know what I mean?
	If she does, then we know for sure.
	Reach for the stars.
	I'm keeping an eye out on NewsHour, looking for more of these.
	Very good.
	There's some sketchy stuff that they've been putting on the air of late.
	I'll say it again.
	The operation was much better In terms of his coverage of everything when Eiffel was alive.
	When Gwen was still alive, yeah, sad.
	Which is, okay, somebody's got to do it.
	Speaking of commercials, both Tina the Keeper and I have both noticed that on radio and television, the commercial pods here are long.
	Twice as long as what we have in the U.S. Are you timing them?
	I will do an exact timing, sure.
	It's just, at a certain point, we're like, damn, is this still commercial?
	Because she doesn't understand everything.
	Is this still commercials?
	Yeah, still commercials.
	Neither one of you have obviously ever watched ESPN. Well, gee, no, not recently.
	Yeah, well, that's unbelievable.
	That's horrible, yeah.
	Well, not so on the best...
	It's almost like one minute of commercial for every minute of content.
	Yeah, well, not so on the best podcast in the universe.
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	And indeed we have some people to thank.
	Beginning with Rebecca Foster, $177.
	The show has been great.
	It's been a while since I last donated.
	And I figured today would be a good day to chip in.
	Mmm.
	She has a couple of suggestions for sounds.
	Gerald Preston, $161.60.
	Pat Deary in Sarnia, Ontario, Canada, $150.
	He needs some travel karma.
	We'll give him some at the end of this list.
	Sir Kevin Dills, the Baron of Mecklenburg County, Charlotte, North Carolina, $12864.
	I'll have to read this note because he says, and he's a knight, Great essay in the last newsletter.
	Oh, okay.
	There you go.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we got John Robinet, $100, no note.
	Nurse Caitlin, Dame Nurse Caitlin, I believe, in Seven Springs, North Carolina, $100.
	Let me get my keyboard.
	Hold on.
	She's going to be a dame.
	She's your keyboard.
	Where's your keyboard?
	Oh, she is?
	I thought she already was it.
	No, I don't think so.
	I thought she was a dame.
	No.
	No.
	No, this is it.
	Read the note.
	Okay, good.
	Oh, we have to do a request.
	She needs another F cancer for her mom who will be starting her second round of chemo.
	Oh, jeez.
	Okay.
	But is that the whole note?
	What else does she have here?
	No, she's at the round table.
	Can I please...
	Oh, yes.
	She's going to be damed.
	Yeah?
	She wants runny eggs and grapefruit juice.
	Runny eggs and grapefruit juice.
	Okay.
	I'll put that on the list.
	And here's...
	Stop it!
	Go!
	You've got karma.
	Honey eggs and grapefruit juice.
	Nice.
	Frank Molinari in Bolverde, or Bolverde, or I don't know how you pronounce it, Texas, some Texas town, 100 bucks.
	Eric Van Martyr, 8080, which is, he's donating a boob job.
	Oh.
	A boob job.
	Get it?
	Yeah.
	I get it.
	Nice.
	A boob job.
	So we have the boobs, the booblets, and the boob job.
	Very good.
	Very creative, people.
	Oh, yeah.
	Andrew German in Carlton, Georgia, 71-17.
	Ryan Marks in Toronto.
	Canton, Georgia.
	What'd I say?
	Carlton.
	Oh, Canton, Georgia.
	Ryan Marks in Toronto, Ontario.
	He says, please don't stop at 1,000.
	Possibly could he be referring to?
	I have no idea.
	Kathleen Meyer in 70...
	Okay, now we got our 70...
	The Lagers and the Happy Halloween 4th of July conversation.
	For 7417, which is 7417.
	Kathleen Meyer, Fabrice Shumi, Nathan Goldsmith in Tucson, John Hawley in Blaine, Minnesota Nuts, Scott Webster in Gilbert, Arizona.
	Robert Verderber in Palmetto, Florida.
	Home of the Palmetto Cockroach.
	Steve Bottoms.
	And that would conclude our group.
	And then we have still some leftover 717171.
	7117.
	Michael Moss.
	Chasen Rosdilsky in Saskatoon.
	I think it's Sir Chasen.
	Sir Rosdilsky.
	Stephen Hightower.
	Sir Turialta.
	This is something.
	Slonoma.
	Sir Turialta Slonoma.
	And he says, Happy Fourth, dogs.
	Dogs.
	Okay.
	Sherry Laurie in Seahome, Victoria, Australia, 60.
	Baronet Sir Anderball and Doorball.
	And Doorball.
	You need home selling caramel.
	We'll get that to him.
	And do you get a, does he got a birthday call out for Michael?
	No, that's, uh, that's Sherry.
	That's a line higher than that.
	Oh, Sherry.
	I'm sorry.
	But does she have it for Michael?
	Yes.
	Oh, Sabrina Hansel, $55.
	Michael Gates, $52.80.
	Eric Hochul in Berlin, Deutschland, another Berliner, $52.00.
	Sir Craig Jones, and he's a sir, I believe, by now.
	I'm not mistaken.
	Sir Craig Jones, Baronet, $50.
	And these are all the following, or $50.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Sir Craig Jones says, can I get emergency jobs, Karma?
	I'm up for a job and need the fates to get a push in the right direction.
	Yes, coming up in just a moment.
	Robert Bruckner in Gilbert, Arizona.
	Matthew Januszewski in Chicago.
	Tim...
	God knows what his name is based on all these characters around here.
	Thanks, PayPal.
	Apparently his name includes a semicolon.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Copenhagen, Denmark, Tim, something Langa.
	Ron Aldridge in Fort Mill, South Carolina.
	Jason Deluzio.
	Sir Jason, I believe, in Chatsford, Pennsylvania.
	Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
	And finally, Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	And Robert Funk in Bakersfield, California.
	I don't know if we have anybody in Bakersfield.
	I want to thank all these folks for producing this show.
	Yes, and we have a couple of notes here.
	First of all, I wanted to say thank you to David Orman from Sydney, whose mother is from Perth.
	And I know this because we were at a restaurant having dinner the other night, and we were pretty, you know, we're still coughing up lungs and stuff, and it's late, it's like nine.
	And here's the interesting thing.
	So these two guys sit down like two tables over, and I'm like, oh man, these hipsters, that's a plague.
	Look at them, because they had the beards and everything.
	And wouldn't you know it, hipster number two turns around and says, in the morning!
	He didn't have a man bun, so it was like a half hipster.
	In the morning, I'm like, hello?
	He says, I'm David Orman from Sydney, Australia.
	I'm David Orman from Australia, and I'm just visiting here.
	I can't believe it.
	He was really, he was blown away.
	He was just, oh, I knew you might be here, but I thought you would be, I can't believe it.
	And I said, let me guess, you're from Perth.
	And I said, my mom is.
	My mom's from Perth.
	I'm from Sydney.
	And gave us 50 euros on the spot, which was highly, highly appreciated.
	Nice.
	Yeah, I did want to thank him personally.
	That was really nice.
	Tina was like, man, look at my man, famous podcaster.
	Famous podcaster.
	I am so proud.
	A quick note from Adam Blinsler.
	Adam, I hope your European travels are going well.
	Looking forward to hearing about him on the show.
	We have actually met a long time ago at the Hot Pockets Tour.
	My wife accepted a university professor of engineering job in Gothenburg, Sweden.
	We back up with the family and moved from sunny California this fall.
	I was wondering if you can put me in touch with anyone in the community with connections out there so I can network with for cultural and potentially job help.
	They tell us there's a housing shortage.
	So any help we could get is appreciated.
	Well, I know we have Swedish listeners and we still need some reporting.
	We desperately need some reporting.
	Yeah, definitely.
	But I'm sure I can connect you with someone now that we've read this.
	Then we have a couple of make-goods.
	Jared Zeifman.
	Contrary to the Father's Day show, I do love my dad, and I hope you can give him some karma to have a few good days.
	He's been suffering from Parkinson's disease for 12 years now.
	Why don't you just put the knife in my eye, man?
	I'm sorry.
	Contrary to popular belief, it is not just a shaking disease, but it has its own form of dementia, which my dad has, and it's pretty tough watching him slowly fade.
	Ending on a positive note, though, happy Canada Day.
	I'm sorry about that.
	Of course you love your dad.
	It's just a snide remark we make from time to time.
	I think John made it.
	Adam at Curry.com.
	You said it.
	I remember you said it.
	And by the way, if anybody has any objection to anything I say, write at him.
	He loves to hear about it.
	Andrew Goodman, another make good from show 943.
	You guys are doing great work.
	The show has been dynamite over the past few years.
	It only gets better.
	The following story is a shining example of your analysis.
	My wife does not share my affinity for the show, but on occasion she humors me when I share with her parts of the show that I find particularly intriguing.
	Most recently I replayed for her your analysis of the Atrazine study from shows 891 Bug Juice, and it blew her away.
	Your coverage of that study was especially enlightening for her because she is a certified master gardener, and the hazards of Atrazine were never discussed in her certification courses.
	Now she approaches me with questions such as, Hey, what do those no agenda guys think about Zika?
	Or have the no-agenda guys talked about all this Trump hate?
	It amuses me to no end.
	As an aside, I'd like to request some newlywed karma from my best friend Morgan and his wife Cynthia.
	May their union mark the beginning of a long and blessed life together.
	Also, this donation takes me to knighthood.
	I'd like to be known as Sir Noel...
	Oh, this is where it came from.
	Null Pointer.
	Remember it was PTR and we said Peter?
	Oh!
	I got it, right.
	PTR, all caps.
	Not like the tech guy would know this.
	It's like Null N, capital N, U, capital L, L, L, L. Night of the Context Switching Wilderness.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay, great.
	And for...
	Where's our sir go-to?
	Our sir go-to?
	Yeah, we're going to use, you know, coding, old coding terms.
	Oh, sorry.
	Never mind.
	Oh, yeah, it took me a second.
	I'm sorry, yes.
	Ten, print, hello.
	Twenty, go to ten.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma.
	Karma.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	And Oliver Cole says happy birthday.
	He was smoking hot, girlfriend.
	She celebrates today.
	Nurse Caitlin, soon to be named Nurse Caitlin.
	Says happy birthday to her brother Trey Williams.
	Celebrating tomorrow.
	Andrew Sherman, 59 on the 7th of July as well.
	Benjamin Howard says happy birthday to his wife, Sherry Laurie.
	Happy birthday to Michael DeVoren, July 9th for him.
	And happy birthday from everybody here.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	Alright, one, two, three.
	Now, did we not knight him, Sir Noel Pointer?
	Yes, we knighted him incorrectly.
	Okay, but now he becomes a black knight?
	No, I don't think he becomes a black knight.
	Well, it says it here on the...
	Did he request this other thing and he ignored it?
	Is that what happened?
	No, I think we just called him Sir Peter.
	So we did an improper knight.
	Well, I don't think that...
	Typically a black knight is someone that we miss completely.
	And then it goes on and sometimes can go on for months.
	Yes, we've been known to be that good.
	Once you get out of the queue, it's just like a nightmare.
	Out of the queue.
	Yes, exactly.
	It's the queue.
	Exactly.
	Well, this is Eric just being very callous with our blackness.
	Well, did he say Black Knight on there?
	Well, it says on Eric's thing, yeah, on the notes, he says, but it didn't say it in his notes, so I think Eric made a note.
	Oh.
	Well, now I already gave.
	I can't be an Indian giver.
	Let him be really as inappropriate as possible.
	Yeah.
	Indian giver, there you go.
	All right.
	Here's my sword, which I'm sure is cultural appropriation of Arabs or something.
	I'm sure we're doing something wrong with this.
	Well, the swords, yes, there it is.
	All right, Nurse Caitlin, step on up to the podium.
	And Benjamin Howard would like his freeloading wife, Karen Howard, to join us on the podium.
	Andrew Goodman.
	All right, gentlemen.
	And one dame.
	I am very, very proud.
	Well, actually, we have two dames and one gentleman.
	Very proud to bring you into the roundtable of the No Addendum Knights and Dames.
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	Head on over to noagentonation.com slash rings.
	Eric will hook you up.
	Short list today.
	Of your call about your meat stuff.
	I know.
	I ran out of time.
	You ran out of time.
	I don't know what happened.
	I'm off.
	I'm sick.
	This is where you can tell.
	This is where you can tell.
	Yeah.
	In case you're keeping track at home of can we catch Adam?
	Yeah, keeping score.
	Exactly.
	Remember, no wagering.
	And the 25th Amendment.
	25th Amendment.
	I need to bring this up because we've been tracking this for a long time.
	But it's always good to hear a Democrat's view on...
	Now we have a bill in the House, I believe, which is intended to get the process rolling.
	So this bill...
	And this is Dennis Kucinich, the Democrat we speak of.
	...would propose that the President could be removed from office for being mentally unfit.
	The Vice President would have to sign off.
	It's not going to happen.
	But Democrats are trying to make a statement.
	Is it helping them or hurting them?
	Well, it's a political statement, not a medical statement.
	And, you know, I think it's destroying the party as an effective opposition.
	People want political parties to be focused on America's economic needs, on jobs, wages, health care, education, retirement, security, and peace.
	And they want American politicians to be constructive, not destructive.
	And I think that, you know, what's happening here is not good for the country.
	I think there are some people in the party who are still having great difficulty being able to reconcile the results of the November 2016 elections with their own politics, and we have to realize the American people.
	We're the ones who judge President Trump.
	They decided he should be president in November 2016.
	And that's the way the process works.
	And so we must find common ground.
	And you can't establish common ground if you're slinging mud.
	There's a gotcha coming here.
	Sure.
	Oftentimes the tone gets set at the top as well.
	We've seen a couple of, frankly, rambling press conferences from Nancy Pelosi.
	Do you believe she should still be leading House Democrats?
	Well, Nancy Pelosi is a friend of mine.
	I think that the Democrats, if they want new leadership, they first have to disconnect from the corporations who are funding the party so that they can be truly independent of those forces and then represent the American people.
	But as long as they're tied to various corporate interests, it really doesn't matter who the...
	Of course, you'd hope this fine journalist at Fox...
	Would say, hey, you mentioned corporate interest twice as if the party's being driven by corporate interest.
	Could you please expand on that?
	Because it's the interest who are calling the shots.
	Doesn't the leader set the tone?
	You've lost so many elections.
	I understand she's afraid.
	Thanks, dickhead.
	That's interesting to me.
	Yes, it would have been a great question.
	A great question.
	But what corporations could it be?
	I mean, this seems very obvious.
	Certainly the Fox journalists knew it.
	I don't have to ask about that.
	Everybody knows that.
	I didn't.
	What can I say?
	I don't know.
	I thought maybe you had an idea.
	You also don't know.
	No, I don't know why.
	To me, it's the insurance companies and the banks.
	I mean, this has been discussed in many essays during when Clinton was first running.
	They said the weakness of the Democrat Party was they don't care about the working man, they don't care about the middle class, they care about insurance companies and banks and yuppies.
	Hipsters.
	Hipsters.
	Yuppies.
	Are there any more yuppies?
	Yuppies are still there.
	Yuppies are still there.
	They're not gone.
	No?
	Well, isn't young, upcoming professional?
	I mean, the yuppies can't be young anymore.
	I guess the young part is out, yeah.
	What would you call it?
	Muppies?
	Middle-aged?
	Okay, fine.
	Fine, fine, fine.
	Oh, this is a dynamite clip.
	I don't know if she meant to say this, but, jeez, this is just so beautiful.
	This will haunt her for the rest of her career.
	With her, I mean Mika Brzezinski, who is unhinged, amygdalitis to the max, Listen to what she says about how, you know, and the fear, I think this is a great example of it, the fear that the M5M have now is, you know, it used to be you do the press conference, we'll write it down, record it, you know, whatever, edit it, what's important, and we'll tell the people, we will tell the people what the score is.
	You know, if you're funny, we'll tell the people that you told a funny joke.
	Maybe we'll edit it and just show a little bit.
	Or not.
	Because we are doing that.
	That's our job.
	And Trump has clearly showed them that they're not in control of messaging to the people.
	So this is a real problem for the press.
	Exactly.
	And that's exactly what I hear.
	What Yamiche just said is what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talked to who were Trump voters.
	And are still Trump supporters.
	They go, yeah, you guys are going crazy.
	He's doing...
	What are you so surprised about?
	He's doing exactly what he said he's going to do.
	Well, and I think that the dangerous edges here are that he's trying to undermine the media, trying to make up his own facts.
	And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think.
	And that is our job.
	That is our job to control what people think.
	We control what people think, damn it.
	Well, I got a gotcha clip, too.
	Yeah, the truth always wants to come out, doesn't it, John?
	That's apparently a function of human beings.
	Where's my clip on Dr.
	Goes Nuts?
	New research.
	What are you looking for?
	I had an Elizabeth Warren clip.
	Elephant Sex Part 1?
	No.
	Good guess.
	I guess I don't have it.
	I'm going to have to get it.
	Yeah, War in 1916.
	There you go.
	Where is it?
	Where?
	The bottom.
	The W. Small W. No Elizabeth.
	Play?
	Oh, okay.
	Or are you going to set it up?
	No, no set up.
	This is going to be a story that goes from 1935 to the present.
	That's going to be the timeline.
	1935 to 1916.
	What?
	She says it's going to be from 1935 to the present.
	1935 to 1916.
	She's on her.
	She's high.
	I do these things.
	She gave this crazy lecture, which I wanted to deconstruct.
	Do a little bit moron.
	But it was just like moron is the key word here.
	She takes everything from 1935 to the present and she just makes up stuff.
	It's as if everything was hunky-dory in the Depression from 1935 to 1940 and in the Depression from 1971 to 1980.
	And then she starts excoriating everybody from 1980 on because Reagan has ruined it for everybody and deregulated everything, including all the banks.
	When in fact it was Clinton who did most of the bank stuff that has ruined the economy.
	Glass-Steagall repealed Glass-Steagall.
	Yeah, Glass-Steagall, among other things.
	He's also, I think, during his administration, it was responsible for you can't take a bankruptcy out and your credit cards are included.
	That's right.
	It's just the worst thing imaginable.
	So you get in debt mostly through credit cards anyway.
	And you try to go bankrupt.
	No, no, no.
	You still have to pay us.
	There you go.
	There's the corporate interest running the Democratic Party.
	There it is.
	Yeah.
	Now, I guess I've always been taught to respect Stephen Hawking.
	Actually, I had a dinner in a restaurant once and he was there.
	I think we talked about him on the show.
	He had hot women around him.
	I think a number of babes.
	He is what you'd call, and there's other guys like him, he's probably the most extreme example.
	A masher?
	I'm going to hate him, you can close your kids' ears, but he is one of the people out there that you would have to define as a novelty fuck.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	You nailed it on that one.
	That's a big novelty.
	Hell, I'd do it just to be able to say it.
	Yeah.
	Hawking guy?
	Yeah, I did him.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, I just got horrible visuals.
	Here he is.
	Or at least here's his synthesized voice.
	We are close to the tipping point where global warming becomes irreversible.
	Trump's action could push the Earth over the brink to become lightiness with a temperature of 250 degrees and raining sulfuric acid.
	What?
	Is he just making a joke?
	You should go talk to Freeman Dyson, who feels the opposite.
	Yeah, I know.
	And who's just as respected.
	That sounds nuts.
	Yeah, but he's not a novelty fuck, let's be honest.
	Not that I know of.
	No.
	Here's another question.
	Why does Stephen Hawking still have that lame-ass, like, Mac 12?
	Why doesn't he get a better voice, you mean?
	Yeah.
	Upgrade.
	Yeah, what's the name of that voice he has?
	It's one of the originals.
	Oh, yeah, they had, like, Sam.
	Was it Sam?
	No, it's got, it's called, I don't know, I can't remember.
	You know, I think it's...
	I had a copy of the software that produced that voice, though.
	You know, I think the Apple still does that.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me check this out.
	I think if I open up...
	You're checking that, it brings to mind another issue, which is, I was thinking about this myself, but I noticed somebody commenting on a YouTube...
	On the YouTubes.
	These news sites.
	John C. Moore.
	Jock.
	Sorry?
	Jock.
	There's news sites that have these robot voices that read the news like you used to have on our show five, six years ago.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Doug.
	His name is Doug.
	Oh, Doug.
	Don't you remember?
	His name is Doug.
	That's how the whole Doug thing got started.
	Our guy was Doug.
	Yeah, but it's actually the voice is Doug on the Apple.
	Yeah, I think it's Doug.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Doug.
	Here we go.
	Stephen Hawking again, ladies and gentlemen.
	Trump is going to kill us.
	We are all going to die, say John C. Dvorak.
	What?
	That's no wrong here.
	This is what he should have said.
	Shut up, Doug.
	Trump is going to kill us.
	We are all going to die.
	Yeah, there you go.
	I guess that summarizes it.
	It does.
	But, I mean, maybe this is a hoax.
	Maybe it's not really him.
	It could be a hoax.
	It sounds like a hoax.
	I mean, for him to say that, that's a big deal.
	But I do have some...
	Since you're talking about climate, I do have a couple of clips because the guys who are soaking up the cash doing all these research...
	Grants, you know, they did something, research, all for climate change in a certain direction.
	Yeah.
	They're trying to get the money while they can.
	Yeah.
	And so we have a report of their...
	So here's what they're doing.
	They've got to come up with some new ideas, because the same old, same old is not working.
	Oh, the oceans are going to rise in this and that, and it's going to rain.
	The acid rain is not in there.
	The climate woman from the EU also say that we needed something like $35 trillion in order to not die.
	Yeah, soak the taxpayer.
	So I've got three clips here, one, two, and three, but one is the start of it.
	What kind of new ideas would you have to scare people even more?
	It's not just...
	Now it just can't be global warming.
	Okay, hold on.
	This is a good one.
	So the idea is we have to have...
	Are we doing research into this thing that's very scary?
	Is that the idea?
	Yes, because we got to have a new angle.
	Okay.
	We have a new angle.
	We need a new angle so we can, you know, frighten people more.
	Okay.
	Let me think.
	Is it, like, really, like, painful death?
	Or is it...
	Painful death, yes.
	We're going to all...
	Because of an invasion of flesh-eating...
	Crickets.
	Okay.
	No, there's none of that.
	I give up.
	So let's try.
	You'll get it.
	Totally different category of climate science.
	There was a big study this week, and usually when climate studies come out, we're looking at environmental impacts.
	What was interesting about this one was it was looking at economic impacts.
	Tell us a little bit about that.
	Well, this one is a very impressive study on climate change.
	Scientists in the climate realm teamed up with economists, the dismal science meeting climate science, if you will, and they looked at the economic impacts of climate change as you project out to the future.
	And perhaps the most interesting finding was that climate change will hit different socioeconomic classes differently.
	Here's Berkeley scientist and lead author of the study, Solomon Shung.
	In the south, where it's hot and along the coast, we might see populations losing the equivalent of 20% of their income.
	Whereas in the cooler northern and western regions, we actually see that populations might benefit a little.
	And because the north tends to be wealthier and the south tends to be poorer, what we see is that in the future, climate change is going to increase economic inequality within the United States.
	Ah, perfect!
	Wait a minute, am I in the getting richer part?
	No, you're not going to die.
	You're going to go broke.
	This is very good.
	This is a very good angle.
	I consider this some of the most creative stuff ever.
	That's really, really good.
	But they're going to pile on, so let's listen to more.
	So how does the U.S. fare overall?
	Well, the team estimates that for each degree Fahrenheit increase in global temperatures, the U.S. economy overall loses about 0.7% of gross domestic product, with each degree of warming costing more than the last as you go up.
	So the U.S. as a whole is not a winner economically.
	Wow.
	Okay, well, if that makes sense, why don't we start a new ice age?
	Because if it's going to go down with heat, it should go up with cold.
	So does it break down by industry?
	Say, for example, agriculture might be hit harder, or real estate?
	Well, agriculture, especially in the Midwest, will likely suffer immensely.
	That seems obvious.
	But it could be comparable to the Dust Bowl in the 1930s, according to these researchers.
	Of course, real estate on the coastline, that's another obvious one.
	But here's a surprise.
	The team found the biggest economic impact of climate change was in health care.
	They expect people living in the South especially will be hit more with heat-related complications, like heat stroke.
	Managing that and dealing with the victims is, of course, very expensive.
	And this is happening to a population that's already poorer than the general average in the United States.
	And there's the vicious cycle.
	Yeah.
	So we got the healthcare thrown in for good measure.
	We've got the economic downturn thrown in for good measure.
	We've got economic inequality, all the buzzwords that the left likes.
	The Republicans don't care.
	Nice.
	And...
	I just was shaking my head listening to this.
	It's like, how hard up are these climate guys now that they have to try to bring in everything?
	There's going to be some Trump angle soon.
	It's going to be all, you know, if it wasn't for global warming, we wouldn't have Trump.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And they'll have some research to prove it.
	Yeah, I have a...
	This is from July 4th, and it's from PrincipiaScientific.org.
	I don't know what that is.
	It may look official.
	I have not snope fact-checked this, but it says, Penn State climate scientist Michael HockeyStickman commits contempt of court in the climate science trial of the century.
	Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination.
	Let's see.
	The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr. T.
	Tim Ball, is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that man did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud.
	I don't know if this is true.
	I had not heard about this court case.
	Well, put it on the list of stuff to research for the next show.
	I don't know anything about this trial.
	I wonder why.
	I've never heard of this trial.
	I wonder why.
	I can't figure it out.
	Let me see.
	They first reported on it February 1st.
	In a week when mainstream fake news outlets try to sell them as the world-leading climate change scientist, Professor Michael Mann concedes legal ground in a major court case about his alleged climate data fraud.
	I've got to look into this.
	I've got to find out what's going on.
	I've not heard about this.
	Of course not.
	Your point is well made.
	To me, stuff like that is absolutely unbelievable.
	You'd think this would be headline news, but no.
	It's very interesting, for sure.
	Well, I do have a little, I got a sarin gas report, which is good.
	Oh, sarin gas is always good.
	Well, let's play the sarin gas report from the U.N. report.
	We've been waiting for this for months.
	In Idlib province back in April, the chemical attack triggered all kinds of accusations and allegations, but not many answers.
	But now we have the 78-page report from the U.N. chemical weapons watchdog.
	So, did we get those answers?
	Yes.
	First of all, the investigators never actually visited the site of the chemical weapons attack in question.
	The Idlib province, where the attack took place, is not in an area under the control of the government, so it wasn't safe to go there.
	And that raises another question.
	UN officials said the report was carried out in full compliance with the guidelines, but the guidelines clearly state that they must visit the site where it happened.
	So their conclusions were based on interviews they did with people claiming to be victims, as well as samples they received from NGOs like the White Helmets, a group with a dubious reputation.
	Now, the report doesn't even give a hint as to how the chemical agent was dispersed.
	This lack of information prompted a strong response from Russia's foreign minister.
	The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons has been acting unintelligibly.
	It refused to go to the scene of the incident and did not provide any information.
	Yesterday, they issued a report.
	It says they're not convinced that sarin gas, which was apparently found there, was dropped by bomb from the air.
	They don't know where the sarin came from.
	And yet, throughout these months, tensions have been inflamed.
	Now, the report was never intended to establish who carried out the attack.
	That's being left to another group of investigators.
	But this hasn't stopped Western leaders from reeling in their old mantra.
	I've got absolutely no doubt that the finger points at the Assad regime.
	And we've got a European Council coming up where we will drive on with the UK campaign to impose sanctions on those responsible.
	The US has already brought out sanctions on 300 people as a result of this.
	People who drop chemical weapons on innocent people should be held to account.
	We know that Assad has used chemical weapons on his own people, and he's done that repeatedly.
	Hasn't the United States convinced the world that...
	Including women and children, and we have all seen that, we have all seen the video, and there is no debate about that.
	That last person was Heather, our new girl at the State Department.
	Wow.
	She's pretty resolute there.
	Yeah, pretty resolute.
	Yep.
	The way she speaks sounds like she's been there for a while.
	You know what I mean?
	And brought up from the...
	That's possible.
	She could be one of the people that were there.
	I mean, the State Department's got something like...
	Thousands of public relations people.
	Wasn't it the CIA who had 5,000 people?
	And the Pentagon's got some huge number.
	So you could probably, you know, it's probably a big pool to choose from.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	You have to do a little sexual harassment to figure out who you really want.
	Yeah, speaking of that, here's Nicole Wallace.
	What is she on?
	MSNBC. Urgent advice to women of the White House.
	I saw that.
	A lot of face bag work while we were lying in bed.
	Look at this.
	I'm feeling worse now.
	Urgent advice.
	Women were sharing this everywhere.
	Before I open this up to my table, a couple thoughts.
	One, as a former communications director, there's a single press strategy for this White House.
	It's called an apology.
	Two, as a woman who was fortunate enough to work in the White House as a public servant, All the women collecting paychecks from the U.S. taxpayers, Dina Powell, Kellyanne Conway, Elaine Chao, Betsy DeVos, you should all go on the record and condemn your boss's comments, and you should work behind the scenes to educate him about just how offensive they are.
	Three, as someone who once proudly called myself a Republican, the party will be permanently associated with misogyny if leaders don't stand up and demand a retraction.
	And finally, most importantly, as the mother of a son, I ask any woman who's defending these comments how they plan to raise good men if the most powerful man in the world gets away with this.
	That was all regarding the Mika stuff.
	Oh, the Mika?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Does anybody...
	I think the Mika stuff was just a toss away, you know, dumb as a rock.
	I mean, no one's ever said that about anybody.
	Apparently not.
	Somehow it's massively offensive to all women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If you reverse the two things and said that Scarborough was dumb as a rock and Mika was an idiot, I mean, that would be okay.
	I mean, I just do not see people getting so worked up about this.
	I do say that Dimension B people...
	super get worked up about this as if it was a big deal.
	Adam's gonna read his face on the No Agenda show.
	And this is from...
	Yeah, I think I need to read this one.
	This is just random.
	This was not a response to anything.
	Is this a Facebooker?
	This is a facebagger, definitely.
	Oh, good.
	Age, around 60, female.
	Austin, Texas.
	Married or single?
	Kids?
	No kids.
	No kids.
	Maybe never married.
	I don't know.
	Maybe husband died.
	I don't know.
	Facebook asks, what's on your mind?
	I have to say this because it is the elephant in our national living room.
	No matter how many ways we deconstruct this election and what happened in Georgia and where the Dems fail and the GOP succeeds, what I see is that many don't want to say or own or name.
	The GOP unites around fear, racism, misogyny, inequality, and willingness to lie and call it alternate facts.
	This country has a long history of discrimination, so embedded that too many of our own citizens will sell their own best interests for the opportunity to feel superior to anyone different from the white man.
	Anyone who feels that the Democrats do not fight for the right to the middle class and those who are not the 1% has not been paying attention.
	Could our party use a shot of new energy?
	You bet!
	And Bernie Sanders ain't it!
	He's too old.
	He's a white misogynist.
	Worse, he has no ability to build consensus.
	Extremes do not succeed on either side.
	We can only do the greatest good with the most realistic expediency when we find commonality.
	My question is, when your opponent embraces the devil because they are willing to sell their souls, then what does it take to serve decency, honesty, fairness, common sense, integrity, and the greatest good?
	The devil has no problem with backbone.
	The devil does not care.
	But when you do care, how do you fight this evil?
	It's not a fair fight.
	So what do we need to do in the face of a country which has never owned our own slave history?
	A country that spawned the KKK? A country that answers Black Lives Matter with All Lives Matter when so clearly our criminal justice system shows us over and over this just is not so?
	Why has Germany rebuilt from the deepest, darkest hatred with such success?
	Because they named and owned their own evil.
	It is literally embedded in the cobblestones.
	Until this country owns our darkness and makes it spiritual and physical reparations with sincerity and conviction, the darkness will dominate the light.
	When hatred is emboldened by our very leaders and institutions, how are we to truly be a democracy?
	So what is it that she's saying?
	We suck.
	America sucks.
	America sucks.
	We need to be like Germany.
	That's what I read.
	Yeah, we need to be like Germany.
	Yeah, and then right underneath it, I don't know how much we vote.
	Right underneath it in the comments, she says, oh yes, and let's abolish the Electoral College.
	One person is one vote.
	Ah.
	There it is.
	Of course.
	Yeah, there it is.
	I've been saying that's been going to be under attack for a long time.
	Yep.
	And I think it's going to be picked up eventually, and I think the Electoral College does have a limited life ahead of it.
	Yeah, possibly, but it would require a constitutional amendment.
	The problem, you know, here's the problem I'm having with the current thinking on the Electoral College, and I wrote an essay about this.
	I'll repeat, I'll send this essay out.
	It's old.
	Good.
	I'll send this out on an upcoming newsletter, but it's discussing the fact that the Electoral College hurts the media.
	Right, because there's no money for media in California because it's a shoo-in for Democrats anyway, so there's no advice.
	Yeah, so no one's going to spend a dime here, and so the California media, the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, and all the radio and TV stations, they don't get the kind of money you get in Ohio.
	No, that's big there.
	One of the states that's got something going on.
	So there's billions of dollars being lost because of this.
	With the Electoral College being eliminated, now the money has to be spread evenly around the country and there's a lot of money to be made.
	People have mocked me for this opinion, by the way.
	Not me.
	With it coming up with this new angle, which I think, again, might be instigated by the media...
	I think the problem that's going to occur is because of this last election when Trump lost badly.
	He could attribute it to fake votes, which is always a possibility, but I'm not going to do that.
	But since he lost so badly the popular vote only because of the 4 million votes in California that went to Hillary that...
	Above and beyond, and when you look at the ratios, I mean, in my little area around here, it's like 80% Democrats to 20% Republicans.
	It makes it seem as if you get rid of the electoral college, you might as well just turn the country over to California.
	Which is exactly what my friend from Canada said should happen, because it's only fair.
	California has the largest economy, they got the most people, they should run the place.
	If you want to think that way...
	I don't, but you did.
	No, if anybody does.
	Just spin California off as its own country and see how far you get.
	Now you're talking.
	But the problem is we have no military.
	There's a lot of problems with doing that.
	You don't need that.
	You got weed.
	Well, there's that.
	You can take the whole West Coast and of course they lose all the West Coast ports and that becomes an issue with the country as a whole.
	But It's a very narrow-minded situation when California would just rule the whole nation.
	Make it a kingdom.
	You'd rule the whole nation.
	And I think that's going to prevent the electoral college from getting...
	And make Mark Zuckerberg king.
	Make Mark Zuckerberg king.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Now, the other thing is it has to be a constitutional amendment to get rid of the electoral college.
	That's going to be a tough one.
	That's going to be tough, because that means 75% of all, I believe this is the way it works, 75% of the state legislatures have to vote yes on the amendment.
	Maybe 60%, but I think it's 75%.
	And that's not going to happen with all these Midwestern state legislatures that are just all run by Republicans.
	It's not going to happen.
	It's not going to happen at all.
	It'll be discussed for the next number of Decades.
	Yes.
	And I'm sure at least until show 1000 here.
	Yeah, sure.
	Just one last little travel report for me.
	Oops.
	Okay.
	This is actually from Minneapolis.
	It's the sort of failing grade MSPTSA has received before.
	17 out of 18 tries.
	Undercover federal agents posing as passengers able to sneak explosive materials, fake weapons, or drugs past screening.
	Two separate sources telling Fox 9 the tests carried out on Thursday were eventually stopped after the astounding 95% failure rate.
	And it all comes as Americans are expected to set travel records this holiday weekend, with AAA estimating nearly 3.5 million will fly.
	But at MSP, persisting doubts about security.
	In April of 2016, sources telling Fox 9 the airport failed 9 out of 12 tests.
	Nationwide, TSA struggles leading to the 2015 resignation of then-chief Melvin Carraway.
	And two years later, under new leadership, lingering questions about how to fix it.
	When asked about Thursday's failing grade and what comes next, the TSA telling Fox 9, You know, I condemn it too.
	We know and we've talked about this is theater.
	It's security theater.
	It's not effective.
	But they keep bringing these reports in as if they can actually stop any of this to embarrass the government.
	And every time they do it, it's just to me what it results in is not a positive thing because they can't fix this problem.
	The result is always longer lines because now they have to take the theater and show that they're doing more than they did before.
	And so now you have to wait longer and it's all bullcrap.
	And anyone who brings these reports out should be condemned because they're not doing anybody any favors and they're not fixing anything.
	And they can't fix anything without you never being able to get to the damn plane.
	We don't have a problem.
	If it's so...
	Filled with holes, it's so easy to get this, you know, everything through.
	We don't have a problem.
	Why don't we have planes blowing up left and right?
	Of course not, because nobody wants to go on a plane and blow it up.
	Because it's a day wrecker.
	Yeah.
	Well, man, you've got some good rants today, and I totally agree with him.
	Yes, good.
	Yeah, all right.
	Do you want to wind it up here?
	I've got at least a roundup so we know this is going on.
	The G20 is going to take place in Hamburg.
	I've got two.
	I've got a CBS version of the same report that PBS has.
	Take a pick.
	Pick one of them.
	Let's see.
	This is Trump, G20, Putin, CBS. Yeah, I want to do Trump, Putin.
	Margaret, President Trump will be meeting for the first time with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
	Does the North Korea issue raise the stakes in that one?
	Well, it adds pressure to an already high-stakes meeting on Friday.
	Now, Mr.
	Trump has no diplomatic experience, and he's going to be squaring off with Russia's Vladimir Putin, a highly experienced operator.
	So this is new territory.
	The White House says there is no agenda, but it comes amid multiple investigations into Russian election meddling.
	And James, it's not clear if the White House will confront him about that.
	Margaret Brennan in Warsaw.
	Thank you very much.
	You have to play the other clip now because it's actually better.
	Won't you always know that?
	In the days of the city of Hamburg, Germany, braced for mass demonstrations involving up to 100,000 people at this weekend's summit of the leaders of 20 top industrialized nations.
	Last night, police used water cannons to disperse crowds.
	Today, saw hundreds of people dressed as zombies staging a peaceful march.
	Tomorrow, activists plan what they call a welcome to hell march to greet President Trump and the leaders of Russia, China, and Turkey.
	Mr.
	Trump arrived in Warsaw, Poland this evening to begin his European trip.
	Oh, man.
	Those Europeans.
	I like to dress as zombies.
	Yeah, I think that's fantastic.
	And there's like the march of death or whatever for our president.
	Nice.
	Thanks, guys.
	Welcome to hell.
	Exactly.
	Thanks, Obama.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much for tuning in to the best podcast in the universe.
	Well, we're off tomorrow morning early to Rome, and then I shall report in on Sunday, and it shall be interesting.
	Yeah, the Wi-Fi thing, that's working again.
	They switched me back on.
	I have not had any problems, so hopefully that'll work in Rome, and if we need to, we can use that to get the show on the air.
	Always exciting.
	Never a boring moment.
	And coming to you from the capital of the lowlands, Gitmo Nation lowlands, Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
	Soon to be in Rome.
	Good morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm soon to be in Sacramento.
	It looks like we may be having the Train Museum meetup on July 29th.
	I'll be sending out an email.
	And here I remain.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Until Sunday, everybody.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	Until next time, adios, mofos!
	Come on, boy.
	Do you want a little travel report, too?
	So we had some travel issues getting to the Netherlands.
	Oh, cool.
	It is no longer possible to buy a roll of Lifesavers.
	I don't have PreCheck.
	Tina does have PreCheck, who has never been approved by the Thor Titan.
	Has never paid $400.
	I take the microphone out of the studio bag, put it in a bin separately, so they don't have to go to my whole bag saying, you know, we hope this guy has a vibrator.
	Let's embarrass him.
	And they don't touch the microphone.
	It's your baguette.
	And he takes out every piece, every wire, swabs, swipes, tests, gets a new swab, swab, swipe, test, a third swab, then puts the whole thing through the machine again.
	The flight's delayed by 30 minutes.
	We're there, you see the plane's hitting there, and the door closes, and the gate attendant says, ah, sorry, doors close, aircraft's secure.
	No, you can't go.
	And I see the pilots, I'm actually standing in front of the window like, dude, I'm Adam Curry!
	MGV! Do you know who I am?
	I'm looking at the pilots.
	I'm trying to get the pilots' attention.
	Open the door!
	The Atlanta Airport Marriott Hotel.
	We got a voucher.
	They owe me the food.
	I got gypped on the food voucher.
	And we got a little handy overnight, guys.
	and traveling wonderful.
	Come on.
	hundreds of dollars to people I don't even know For a podcast coming over my phone You can see from this tweet that the world has gone to hell.
	President Trump tweeted a little video, my cat died a week ago.
	I think this is related, because I'm not seeing that as a coincidence, right?
	My cat dies a week ago, and then he does this, this tweet.
	How is that a coincidence, right?
	This will lead to riots in the street because it's validated violence against logos.
	If we imagine it's okay for somebody to beat up a logo for CNN, well, what's next?
	I mean, my cat already died last week, and I'm pretty sure there's a connection.
	A couple more tweets like this, and there goes your cat, too.
	Yeah, she was very old, and she was very sick, but I think this tweet, really, her cat anticipation is what got her.
	She knew this was coming.
	Trump punched down to my cat.
	What was my cat doing to anybody?
	Nothing.
	And then suddenly, bam, the President of the United States punches down on my cat.
	That doesn't seem right.
	Hitler-like behavior.
	His tweeting might even destroy civilization as we know it.
	His tweets are the end of civilization as we know it.
	Hitler like the hate.
	Russia?
	We're in Russia?
	Russia?
	Russia?
	Oh, come on.
	Once again.
	Blue time!
	Blue, blue, blue.
	Boom!
	Boom What?
	What are these guys talking about?
	Ha, ha, boop.
	Do you like boops a lot?
	Yes, I like boops a lot. Boops a lot, boops a lot.
	Gotta like boops a lot. Really like boops a lot.
	Gotta like boops a lot. Boops a lot, boops a lot. Gotta like boops a lot.
	A-O-O-A-B-O-O. A-O-O-A-B-O-O.
	I'll talk to anybody, I don't care.
	Janitor, homeless person, police officer, pop star.
	I'll talk to anybody.
	It's a nothing bird.
	You're an idiot.
	I talk to everybody.
	Just listen to his examples.
	Oh, even the poor slubs are away beneath my class.
	It's a nothing bird.
	Hi, pop star.
	I'm Van Jones.
	Surely you've heard of me from a homeless guy.
	It's a nothing bird.
	It's a nothing burger.
	It's a nothing burger.
	This guy's a hunkster.
	He's a frogster.
	He's a shuckster.
	He's a hookster.
	He's all jive and all that.
	It's a nothing burger.
	It's a hunkster and frogster.
	When it's stir, you can add stir to anything and it's gonna pop.
	He's a hoaxer.
	He's a fraudster.
	He's a podcaster for crying out loud.
	It's a nothing but it.
	Fan, wow, man.
	Fan, man.
	It's a nothing but it.
	You're an idiot.
	It's a nothing but it.
	This guy got whipped.
	It's a nothing but it.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A. Sack it out, buttercup!
	Sack it out!

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