So what's your business, what do you think your business is going to be worth with the window broken?
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
And Sunday, June 25th, 2017, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 9041.
This is No Agenda.
Watching the worldwide war on weed and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the inn here in the capital of the Drone Star State in the Clunio in Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we let countesses bounce before we catch them, I'm John C. Devorak.
And it's Clark Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
You let countesses bounce?
Yeah.
What?
Explain.
Yeah.
It's a reference to a meme going around the Twitters about how Kate Middleton caught some countess as she was falling on her ass.
Oh, you mean from the Department of Real News Department?
That's what you mean.
Oh, very nice.
Very nice.
And now, back to Real News.
Yeah.
Tons of Real News.
I'm on your list.
Well, I got a lot of things on my list.
Something very disturbing that I realized.
Some one thing?
Just one little thing that's very disturbing.
Now, we know that in Los Angeles, the crack epidemic.
That would be a professor at Santa Barbara.
Yeah.
A lot of that relates back to Iran-Contra, the cocaine being brought in by the CIA. Developed by the government.
Crack itself.
Developed by the government and then sold on to enslave the poor people in the beginning of Los Angeles and now around the country.
And I see something similar happening with heroin.
And there's a development which is not entirely new, but the product is new.
And I think that this is not meant to stop people.
Well, it is meant to save people.
I believe this is all about the promotion of heroin use.
Have a listen to this report from RT. The L.A. Sheriff's Department is really trying to prevent the opioid epidemic from taking hold in Los Angeles and killing as many people as it has on the East Coast and in the Midwest.
So under this pilot program, all of the sheriffs in the department, 3,000 of them—I'm sorry, deputies—they will be equipped with Nalaxone, which is also known by its name brand, Narcan.
Now, this will be a nasal spray, and it's a fast-acting anti-opiate that reverses or blocks the effects of opioids in just minutes.
And these were first purchased by the department, 1,300 units earlier this year, but they now have gotten 5,000 additional doses, which will allow the entire department to use these.
Now, deputies will have this available throughout L.A. County, which includes the Crescenta Valley, East Los Angeles, and Santa Clarita Valley areas, as well as the bureaus that serve community colleges and parks.
Now, I spoke earlier with Tom Gian Domenico, a lieutenant with the department, who also serves as a SWAT paramedic.
He says they're taking proactive measures here.
They want to make sure that they can get ahead of this.
They're preparing for the worst just based on what's going on throughout the country.
And they do see overdoses every single day.
And in fact, they say that they respond often to entire groups of people who are overdosing.
So this will really allow them to save as many lives as possible because they're often the ones who get to the scene first before additional paramedics can get there.
So those crucial minutes are very important for saving lives.
Again, they say that this is not going to help solve the crisis, but it will help save people and hopefully bring more awareness to the fact that this anti-opiate exists and hopefully get it in the hands of other departments in Los Angeles and in California. - Yeah. - Now, what's new about but it will help save people and hopefully bring more awareness to the Now, what's new about this?
Maybe I didn't realize this, but the Narcan, and they have video of it, comes in a very small nose inhaler.
So you just shoot it in, and you don't die.
This is not...
I mean, yes, to save people, but even, oh, we're in a group, and so we can save a whole group of people.
No, this is to propagate it.
Do as much heroin as you want.
You'll have a designated heroin user, who I guess won't be using.
He'll have the Narcan.
Hey, wait if you OD, no worries.
Back in two minutes!
It's beautiful!
This is not a good product.
I mean, it's a great product for what it does, but the way it's being marketed over-the-counter in a handy little dispenser, I have a problem with that.
Well, I never thought about it as such until you started playing this clip, and immediately you started getting suspicious that you're playing this clip with a hidden agenda.
Yeah, no, I got an agenda.
You have an agenda.
What's next?
It'll be...
Help!
I've fallen!
And I need my Narcan alert!
It's going to be that simple.
I don't know.
It's a good point.
They seem, for one thing, a couple of things...
You brought to the fore.
Is that this promotion for Narcan is unrelenting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's on all the news networks.
It's like somebody is a public relations agency.
You mean the news networks that live and die by Big Pharma?
Yeah, and I've never seen anything promoted so much.
Exactly.
Let me just see who makes Narcan.
Who makes it?
I don't know, but it sounds like a good investment about six months ago.
It's a company that apparently has...
They got the monopoly on it.
Who is it?
Come on.
Whole article about how horrible they are.
Oh yeah, Adapt Pharma.
There you go.
Adapt Pharma?
Yes.
Adapt Pharma.
What's their stock symbol?
Let's take a look.
Yeah!
Now you're talking.
Okay.
It's adaptpharma.com.
Here, visit the Narcan nasal spray website.
Oh, this is beautiful.
See this?
Oh, they even have a little video.
Okay.
Well, let's...
I didn't...
This is unprepared.
Well, it didn't used to be nasal spray.
Isn't that new?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Narcan nasal spray is the first and only FDA-approved nasal form of naloxone for the emergency treatment of known or suspected opioid overdose.
Narcan nasal spray contracts the life-threatening effects of opioid overdose since the most...
What's the name of the drug company again?
Adapt Pharma.
A-D-A-P-T. Yeah, tell me, what's their stock doing?
I'm going to look at it.
Narcan nasal spray is not a substitute for emergency medical care.
Always get immediate help even if the person wakes up because they may relapse into respiratory depression.
The use of Narcan may result in symptoms of acute opioid withdrawal or anal leakage.
Yeah.
And you look at four milligram, they got this little, you know, you got your disposable needles, you got your disposable Narcan.
It's beautiful.
And no one is saying, hold on a second.
It's one thing to have emergent EMTs supplied with this, but you can just go buy it over, you know, how to get.
Let's see.
Oh, it is a prescription product.
I stand corrected.
Oh, however, there are many states where residents can purchase directly from a pharmacist without an individualized prescription.
Let's see if my state is one of them.
Okay.
Yeah!
Let me see.
Red.
A physician with prescriptive authority issues a written order that allows Narcan nasal spray to be distributed.
Okay, so in Texas, you don't want to OD in Texas.
You can't get it.
But it shouldn't be that hard.
They'll flood the market.
I can't find any Adapt Pharma or anything that is listed.
Oh, they're not public?
Well, it doesn't make sense to me, but they might not be.
Maybe all this publicity is for that purpose.
Maybe they're ramping up.
Let me see.
Look at their news.
Let me try it again.
Okay, so we'll do Adapt Pharma.
Pharma S1. Let's see.
No, I don't see any filings.
Okay, well, a company to keep our eye on.
They will have an IPO if this continues, that's for sure.
Let's look at the press releases.
They're usually in a typical...
Usually they have an investor relations site, which they don't have.
They haven't got one of those either, but usually in a press release they'll put their symbol in the release.
And I see nothing.
But anyway, I just think we should be a little thoughtful about what's going on here.
This is like, yeah, there's something skammish about it, I agree.
And that kind of leads me to another thought, if we can just switch gears.
Because I finally found Viceland on my cable box here.
Viceland, the network that Vice runs?
Yeah, yeah.
Christina did a documentary for Viceland in the Netherlands.
Now, it's not on the U.S. Viceland, I think.
So I take a look at it.
There's this woman, you know, millennial girl, and she goes off to France, and she's doing a whole thing about the headscarves and the burka ban, etc.
And it being vice, the entire take was, yo, you can't tell people what to wear!
Very little understanding for the cultural aspect of thousands of, you know, hundreds, more than hundreds of thousands of years of...
And I witnessed this in the Netherlands, starting in 98, 97...
When what they call the street view changes, where instead of, you know, multicultural kibosh of people, it's a lot of black hoods.
And it bothers people.
It bothers people.
Yeah, it does.
Of course it does.
But here's the problem.
You don't know what they're up to, for one thing.
But here's the problem.
So in France, we have no-go zones where the police does not go.
Actually, there's a new report on Sweden now has come out and said we have 32 no-go zones.
I'm just going to make a quick point about this.
Because again, this is very strange to me.
So this whole documentary is about girls who want to go into school.
Stop!
You have to take off your headscarf.
They take it off and they want to adjust their headscarf after school.
They can't do that in the bathroom.
They have to go outside.
There's this jacked up mirror on the playground, which is not even a mirror.
It's just a shiny piece of metal.
The whole thing is very sad.
Bump it with your butt.
But here's the thing.
They're going after schoolgirls for a choice in what they wear.
And obviously, if someone's being forced, there's a lot of issues with Sharia.
But instead of going after girls and women on the beach, why don't you go in and kick some ass in these no-go zones?
Anyone who's forcing their women to wear this crap, beat them up, arrest them, throw them in the brink, clean that shit up.
No.
None of that happens.
None of that.
Let me play this report from Sweden.
Here we go.
A leaked report by Swedish police says the number of so-called vulnerable zones in the country has jumped to 23.
The areas, often described in Swedish media as no-go zones, have sprung up across the country, particularly in the larger cities.
The report adds that a parallel social structure has emerged in those areas, with police facing difficulty carrying out their duties there.
The leak partly blames Islamic extremism for the problem.
Some service providers have even refused to enter certain areas.
In April, mail provider Postnord wouldn't enter Stockholm's Rinkaby suburb, citing security concerns.
Rinkaby made headlines last year when police opened fire after a mob of around 30 people began attacking officers with rocks.
In fact, the National Police Commissioner says the number of no-go zones is even higher than stated in the leaked report, and he also called for a change of approach.
Well, we see developments in our country which are not going in the right direction always.
We have a bit more than 60 vulnerable areas around the major cities of Sweden.
And we see criminality there, and we need to turn around development in those areas, and we need assistance of our other parts of society.
So it baffles me.
It baffles me that we go after women and girls on the street.
Well, they shouldn't harass those girls on the street, that's for sure.
But also, you can't start by saying, when you start by saying, you can't wear this.
You know, that's the beginning of the end.
Well, not necessarily.
I mean, we had a number of laws in this country that said you can't wear a mask.
Okay, well then that's a law that stems from something.
Is that still here?
Yes, it's not enforced as much as it used to be, but every once in a while somebody goes into...
Right, but a mask is not a headscarf.
It's not a...
No, but that black thing that you wear, I forget what it's called, that completely covers the face except for the two eyes.
That's niqab.
Yeah, that thing.
That should be illegal.
How are we going to attract a citizenry with our cameras and voice recognition if we have all these faces covered?
If I want to walk around on the street with a paper bag on my head with two eyes holes cut out, am I going to get arrested?
I hope so.
Although you can just claim to be the unknown comic.
Yeah, right.
The whole documentary, they really don't go into the actual issue, which is, you've got to stop the ghettos.
You've got to stop it.
Well, the way I see it, having studied Swedish sociology...
Oh, I studied Swedish women for a while, but...
Yeah, well, he didn't do a very good job.
Oh!
They won't get this fixed until they figure out how to fix it, and they'll fix it, and all of a sudden it'll just get fixed.
I mean, they don't.
It's interesting to note the way the Swedes do business compared to Americans.
We like to get going.
And then we fix things as we go along.
The Swedes are planners.
Yeah.
And so they spend 70-80% of their time planning something, and then when they implement, their implementation goes very smoothly, but it's short.
So just how long did they plan on ABBA? I don't know, but they're still planning, apparently.
Yeah.
No, I saw it in the Netherlands.
The Netherlands is a very typical country when it comes to no nations, no borders.
And people, oh no, it's good.
Let them do whatever.
This is good.
And now it's, you know, this is not so good.
Hey, we have everyone, all the leaders in Europe saying the multicultural society failed.
We never should have done it.
It didn't work out.
No, they're not.
What leaders are saying this?
Oh, you've forgotten already?
It was Cameron.
Cameron's out.
Yeah, but this is how long ago it was.
What I'm about to say is drawn from the British experience, but I believe there are general lessons for us all.
In the UK, some young men find it hard to identify with the traditional Islam practiced at home by their parents, whose customs can seem staid when transplanted to modern Western countries.
But these young men also find it hard to identify with Britain too, because we've allowed the weakening of our collective identity.
Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we've encouraged different cultures to live separate lives apart from each other and apart from the mainstream.
We fail to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong.
We've even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values.
So when a white person holds objectionable views, racist views for instance, we rightly condemn them.
But when equally unacceptable views or practices come from someone who isn't white, we've been too cautious, frankly, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them.
And now you know why he had to go.
We're not playing the game here.
No, baby, this is wrong.
This is realism.
Get out.
We got the London mayor on deck.
Yeah, get out of here.
Get out.
Yeah, put the London mayor in.
The guy's not going to rock the boat.
The London mayor.
Anyway.
Well produced at Viceland, I have to say.
Well produced.
Yeah, well that's good.
Just completely dimension B, but okay.
Well, yeah.
It is what it is.
Well, what do we got here?
Well, we have a rectification to make.
About what?
Well, I wanted to read a little face bag post.
Mainly because it's written in the typical face bag fashion.
Oh, is the face bag reader going to be able to read it?
Yeah, the face bag reader is good to go.
I'm jacked up on caffeine.
Okay, go.
This is Neil.
Neil, who often does art for us, who used to be Callie Lewis' partner.
Yeah.
Right.
Neil Campbell.
Yeah, Neil.
And he likes the show, he's a listener, he's a contributor, but he says...
Yeah, he's a big fan.
The segment about Ossoff was so frustrating today because John was so massively uninformed about Ossoff, and yet seemed so certain.
Asif grew up in the district and lived there for many years of his life.
Many more than the handle woman.
He lived outside the district a few times in his life for work and for relationship reasons.
But you guys came down solidly on the false notion that he is an outsider and a carpetbagger.
And that was another huge frustration with this episode.
John made up this weird idea about the term carpetbagger coming from Turkish rug sellers putting rugs in bags.
It's so weird to me that anyone may have made it through ninth grade without learning that poor people made luggage from old carpets because that wove material was the strongest thing they had access to could be used to carry their belongings.
The reason the term carpetbagger is pejorative is because it's a slur against poor people who are perceived to be opportunistic.
The idea is they show up in our community with their belongings and carpetbags trying to take what's ours.
Even when the show frustrates me, you guys are always funny.
Well, he's right about one thing.
He's not right about the Ossoff guy, that's for sure.
A spook, as we identified him.
But yeah, carpetbag is referred to luggage made out of old pieces of carpet sewn together in an awkward way.
And you studied Civil War, which is surprising.
Yeah, I actually knew this.
It's irksome.
It's surprising.
Well, it's just I never remember.
It's not like I'm reading a book at the moment.
But it's so interesting that when people fall over a mistake we make, it's always these stupid small things.
Yeah, well, you make these mistakes.
So it was an error.
And whether or not poor people pack up their belongings and go to exploit some new area really is not the mechanism of the poor.
Thank you.
To be honest about it.
And so there was an exploitative aspect to it.
And the poor, in general, at least throughout history, aren't looking to exploit.
That's usually kind of an entrepreneurial class.
And so that's kind of questionable, his analysis about the poor coming down to take their stuff.
So that's very dubious.
But the bag thing, yes, the bag was bags made out of...
Carpet.
Pieces of carpet.
Since Neil did not explain, what exactly is your source, probably an unnamed source, that Ossoff was not from the area?
Why is he saying he was?
He lived there longer than that handle woman.
He is not from the area.
I mean, he may have been in the area before or from the area.
That's true.
My source is the campaign.
They made a big deal about him being a carpetbagger.
Yeah.
So it's not like a secret source.
I mean, it was just part of the campaign.
This guy's not...
He's not now currently living in the area.
Now, sure, he may have lived there when he was a kid.
He may have lived there a year ago.
But he's not living there now.
Right.
And I think that if you're going to be running in an area for Congress, you should be living in that area, not the next door neighbor's area or one block over from where the boundary is.
You should be living in there.
It just seems to me...
I could be wrong.
Maybe you could...
I mean, Hillary Clinton, obviously, when she ran for Senate in New York, she wasn't a New Yorker.
But the Democrats do this all the time.
The Republicans have tried it.
They're not successful, but the Democrats do it all the time.
Oh, there's an opening spot.
Let's bring Bill in.
Hey, Bill, what are you doing this weekend?
Oh, speaking of Bill, you know, Bill's on...
First of all, so Bill is out on the speaking circuit again.
He looks great!
It's almost as if...
Hillary was poisoning him.
He doesn't have the hammer.
He doesn't have the fear of being shot any minute.
Because Hillary was a shoe in it.
Oh, she's going to win, no problem.
We don't need Billy.
It was either that, or maybe she was just saying, you need to shut up and I'm keeping you sick until I'm president.
And, I don't know, this really hasn't made the news, and I think it's real, but now the total is 14 cadavers hacked up in different stages of preservation or decay have been excavated from the ground in steel barrels from the Clintons' backyard.
Did you know about this?
What?
Yes.
How come I don't know about this?
Well, it's Hillary news.
Why would we put it on the news?
William Mason, who owned the Chappacar residence before the Clintons bought it, was linked to, I think, most of the victims.
And he had other victims.
But now another three, which were in barrels in some crude type of preservation liquid.
So I guess someone can go back later.
Sure, it was a preservation liquid?
You put in lye or something?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Not according to this report.
The formaldehyde or alcohol or something?
They say a crude preservation substance.
Pee.
Anyway, the FBI agents were digging up and then Hillary went over Sounds about right.
And by the house.
But, you know, it's unfortunate that they have this, you know, there's a kill list and, you know, then there's dead bodies showing up in their backyard.
I'm sure it's all just a complete coincidence.
It could happen to anybody.
You know.
Coincidence?
I think not.
Anyway, so Bill's on the speaking circuit.
And he's got balls now.
He's telling it like it is.
We want to move forward as a nation.
Sadly, he maybe fails to realize he's talking about his wife.
I found and still find it profoundly alien that public rhetoric is divorced from the real lives of real people.
The rise of tribalism all over the world is basically, I'm convinced, Thank you.
Thank you.
But in the end, what tribalism amounts to is politics rooted in a simple principle.
It's us versus them.
I want us to win, and for us to win, they have to lose.
If you did that, most of you would be out of a job.
Creative societies are about multiplication, not division.
And good politics It's about problem solving and opportunity seizing, not how to stretch the limits of acceptable use of power.
Uh-huh.
That's how we got to be the longest lasting, freely elected democracy in all of human history.
Well, words to live by, Bill.
I thought Iceland was longer.
Hope she's listening.
I'm pretty sure that Clinton story is bogus, by the way.
Pretty sure.
About the new bodies.
Oh, I don't know anything about any of it, so you can say whatever you want.
Okay.
Instead of me saying something, you correctly identified weeks ago, maybe months ago, all of this Russia, Trump, Putin, it's all about the Democrats trying to win back House and Senate in the 2018 midterm elections, and Nancy Pelosi is on the block.
I hadn't even really thought about it.
Until you mentioned it.
Yeah, the party is failing and they've got to throw somebody under the proverbial bus.
Here's Krauthammer with some background.
The idea that this is intimidation of a witness is pure rubbish.
This is about the tape.
Is the M5M really this stupid that they don't understand how they were played by this?
There's actually been a debate on some of the scatterbrained alphabet networks as to whether or not they're kind of faking a sincerity that they don't really have about some of these things because they're so stupid.
It's like they're about to, but They can't bring themselves to it because then they have to admit that most of Trump's material is kind of, you know, it's tongue-in-cheek a lot.
Yeah.
It's a put-on, you know, his list of lies, you know, half of them are not meaningless.
Oh, yeah, I get that email to me too.
Here's the list of lies.
Okay.
Yeah, I can just see the Reddit exploding now.
The Trump Defense League is out again.
The Trump Defense League.
So this is about...
There was somebody on one of the networks.
I wish I clipped it, but it was...
They had a...
He says, look, we don't even like Trump, but we're defending him against the bull crap.
I mean, it's like the Johnny Depps and all these people.
Everyone's threatening him.
Johnny Depps.
It was a nice guy.
This is just...
He was stolen.
He was wasted.
I have a great amygdala clip for you.
I got the Johnny Depp clip, and the thing that bothers me about it is not that he made this threat.
Well, that's bothersome, but it's the crowd again.
We've noticed this before.
It's like, yay!
And maybe it's time.
Are you douche?
Yeah, the crowd loves that.
Totally love it.
But I can't even feel...
I don't even feel bad anymore.
Well, I do.
People are ill.
They're just ill.
That's all.
I do have the Pelosi.
She brought Pelosi in ill.
I do have her clip.
Yes.
This is her defending herself.
She's crazy.
She's completely insane.
I respect any opinion that my members have, but my decision about how long I stay is not up to them.
I'm a target, and they always want to choose our leaders, and usually they go after the most effective leaders.
I saw it on TV. I couldn't find it this morning.
Where she said, I'm a very effective legislator or something like this.
Like, I'm an outstanding legislator.
And so humble.
Yes, she did.
So incredibly humble, Nancy.
She says, I don't care what they think.
I'm staying as long as I want.
That's not true.
Here's Congressman Vela, Philemon Vela, who was out everywhere.
I don't know if he's the spokeshole now for the Get Pelosi Out camp.
But he's certainly not afraid.
Now, she says she does help.
She's raised a whole heck of a lot of money, she says.
She says she's a master legislator.
You disagree?
There's no question she is a prolific fundraiser.
She raised millions and millions of dollars.
But what has that money gotten us in the last four election cycles?
So money's not enough, you're saying, anymore?
Well, I think that...
I'm not saying that whoever comes in is going to be able to raise as much money as she is, but the money will be raised.
But the fact is, is when you take a look at those last four election cycles, all that money has been for naught.
Look, Nancy Pelosi's been a leader for 2003.
One of the reasons is, you know, she's been able to fight off any competition.
Are you afraid of retribution?
No, I'm not afraid of retribution.
Booyah!
My point is very simple, and that is, as we move forward...
The fact that someone would say that is kind of odd.
Are you afraid by calling her out of retribution?
It works.
What kind of power does this woman have?
I know now she raises the most money.
Well, she raised apparently I think in her total so far is half a billion dollars.
Not bad.
And she keeps bringing up this money.
I think she's the one who got all that money out of Silicon Valley sent to this stupid Georgia 6 election.
Right, right.
Now, The one thing that's never discussed, and they talk about it, she's the greatest money raiser in the history of the house.
What is she doing?
I want to know what some of her tricks are.
What does she throw, big parties?
Does she have a bailing list that's unbelievable?
I mean, what is it?
Well, I don't know.
That's a very good question.
I don't know either, and they never tell us.
They just tell us that she's the best But if somebody's the best, don't you think someone would like to analyze this?
Why is she the best?
I would be more interested in why is she the best than the fact that she's the best.
I want to know why.
What's she doing?
I get nothing.
Well, the reason why is because of the amounts of money she brings in.
And what you want to know is how does she get those amounts of money?
Maybe she does the same thing Jane Sanders does.
You've been following this?
They're trying to do everything.
We need to find other people who are to blame.
We're going to blame everybody for everything, but now we've got this one.
Ah, yes.
We're going to glom on to Bernie.
Let's kick this guy in the nuts once and for all.
So Jane Sanders was running the, what school was this?
I think Burlington University.
Yeah, Burlington University.
And she decided to purchase a piece of land from the diocese with church on it, and it was naturally 33 acres of land.
Yay!
And so she secured a six-something million dollar loan from...
Is Bernie's wife we're talking about.
Yes.
From federal funds, an additional three-something million, which was a second mortgage from the diocese itself, based on her promise of raising two-point-something million dollars to get everything started.
And at the end of the day, or the story in this case, she had $250,000 that she raised, not to $2.3 million or whatever is necessary, therefore had to negotiate with the bank and with the diocese to negotiate the money down, the $2 million they didn't have, which is now, I believe, that she is being sued, or will be sued, for fraud with a federal institution, which, yeah...
And then there's all kinds of other shenanigans about how Bernie got this great mortgage for his third home, I think?
Is that what Comrade Sanders has now?
Three homes?
I'm not sure.
I don't remember.
So it's beautiful.
It's just fantastic.
We'll see.
Yeah, they got the tit in a ringer.
Yeah.
But this is, again, an example of people that don't know what they're doing.
Thinking they do.
Yeah.
I mean, Bernie's not a rich guy.
I mean, he's not poor by any means because he's been in the Senate so long, but he's not like Pelosi.
She's, like, considered to be one of the richest people in Congress, if not the richest.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, a billionaire at this level.
And I think these guys look around and say, well, geez, it's like people just want to do a VC startup.
Yeah.
I got a great idea.
I'm going to go get some VC money.
It's so easy.
Yeah, just go get some VC money.
You just walk in, knock, knock, knock.
Hey, I need some money.
I got a really good idea.
Oh, here you go.
Here you go.
It's so easy.
Yeah, that's why guys like Zuckerberg have guys like Peter Thiel.
It's a pain in the ass to go get some VC money.
It's horrible.
I've been through it.
It's not a pleasurable experience.
No, and many of the VCs don't have any money.
That's the joke of it.
There's a whole slew, a whole category of VCs that have no money in their fund.
You have to ask around.
Oh, no, those guys haven't got any money.
They just pretend VCs, so they go to meetings and hang out with their pals.
Have their Monday morning meeting.
Yeah, they have meetings.
Everybody pitch.
Gives them something to do.
Yeah, but then when they raise a new fund, they have money to invest.
But that's about it.
I'm talking about guys that don't even do that.
Oh, okay.
They're called angels.
Angels.
And not even that.
I'm telling you.
Nothing.
You're getting nuts.
These guys are just like a dried up turnip.
Not happening.
I got a new producer who lives in the Scandinavian border and he's sending me good stuff from CBC. Not the stuff you'd find online typically.
No good.
And he found an identification of the alternate universes.
Former FBI Director James Comey and Donald Trump alone in the Oval Office.
Comey says Trump asked him to let go of the investigation into his former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.
Trump says it didn't happen that way.
When Trump suggested there may be secret recordings, reporters clamored to hear them.
Are there tapes, sir?
Congressional investigators demanded them.
And from Comey himself.
Lordy, I hope there are tapes.
Then, on the same day the Senate introduced long-awaited health care legislation, Trump said if any recordings exist, he didn't make them and he doesn't have them.
But Kellyanne, my question is, why didn't the president clear this up 41 days ago?
He cleared it up in due course, but I want to go back.
Let's just stop right there for a second.
So, when we read that tweet, we said, oh, he's just saying, oh, man, be careful what you say.
Everything's recorded.
It was in light of Trump Tower being wiretapped, the New York Times reporting on it.
Yeah, and the JNSA tapping everybody.
And then everyone's like, oh, he has tapes, he's threatening him, threatening him with tapes.
Yeah.
This is unbelievable to me, because I don't think anyone in their right mind, or at least any of the Noah Jendel listeners, except for maybe Neil, in their right mind would have a different take on that.
That's exactly what it was.
It's what it appeared to be.
It's what it looked like.
It wasn't a threat.
It was just a casual comment.
And it was obviously done for the purposes of what Trump said, which was to keep the guy honest.
And it worked.
Yeah.
And then he brings it out later, and everyone says, why did he bring it out later?
Because he wanted Comey to testify.
Well, it's either they're that stupid, which is questionable.
I have worked in these organizations.
There is a groupthink that is beyond belief.
Beyond belief.
I remember when I first started MTV, and I may have told this story before.
Carol Robinson ran the press department.
Yeah, Carol Robinson.
Oh, yeah, we've got TV Guide.
TV Guide wants to interview you.
I was brand new VJ. TV Guide was the biggest magazine in America.
Biggest circulation.
You were in TV Guide?
That was the shit.
Yeah, you were it.
Yeah.
So I do the interview in their office.
Of course, that's how I have to do it.
Like, well, we're just listening.
And I said something about Madonna.
I'm like, I met her.
I didn't like her too much.
All right.
And they freaked out.
We don't talk about artists like that.
And they never set up an interview for me again, ever.
That's the group thing that goes on.
Anyway, we continue.
This happens in all large organizations.
So, apparently, a lot of people did read this the same way, and they can't put two and two together and say, hmm, maybe he waited until Comey testified, and then say, I don't have any tapes.
And my question is, why didn't the president clear this up 41 days ago?
He cleared it up in due course, but I want to go back to what you just said.
Compare CNN's tone.
First answer this question, and then we can go to your point.
Why did it tweet?
To fawning Fox.
Different channels, different worlds.
Everyone's saying, give him a chance.
With no tapes to clear things up, who do Americans believe?
A new poll by NBC in the Wall Street Journal suggests they're more inclined to believe James Comey over President Trump by a margin of two to one.
Where did this alternate universe story come from?
Came from the alternate universe.
Here is Shields on PBS using the same meme or talking point about the Shields slanting the story on Comey.
And it's interesting because PBS actually kind of makes a correction on what that woman just said.
He pays the price for it.
It's still worth doing.
Mark?
I'd say this.
He's paying a price in the sense the Wall Street Journal, NBC poll, they asked voters, whom do you believe, James Comey or Donald Trump?
And by a two-to-one margin, voters believe James Comey, who until a month ago was a villain to so many Democrats because of the Hillary Clinton race.
Overwhelmingly, Americans do not believe that he's honest or he's trustworthy, he's knowledgeable, he's experienced, or he has the right temperament.
I mean, by a 48 to 16 margin, they believe the opposite.
And that is a real liability for anybody who wants to lead a country.
But in that same poll, you see that it's 78% of Dems, 26% of Republicans who have that trust in that case.
So, Mark Shields, David Brooks, we'll leave it there.
Thank you.
Just throw a little extra thing in there, which I guess everyone got called out on this.
This thing was very slanted, this poll.
New York Times, Washington, woppa, woppa, woppa, woppa.
No, it was Wall Street Journal, NBC. Oh, same thing.
Same thing.
It doesn't make any difference what you're doing.
Now, while we're on the topic of these bullcrap artists, especially the ones on PBS, I find, you know, and I'm always complaining, anyone who listens to this show, I'm complaining about the fact that they'll have two people on debating, and the best example is Brooks and Shields.
The idea was from the beginning that Brooks is going to be a Republican, a middle-of-the-road Republican.
He's going to defend the Republican side of an argument.
It's the same formula we use for this show.
Yeah, exactly.
And so Shields is the guy, the left-wing guy.
But over time, it was obvious that this never was going to work out because Brooks is not an apologist for the Republicans.
He's another Democrat.
And I've been saying this and saying this.
So what's the point of having these two guys debating the same side?
They have the same exact position.
Now...
Finally, proof.
This is my proof clip on Brooks.
Tell me, listen carefully.
With what they are for, what is it, rather than simply being against Donald Trump, which...
I do think, I'd be curious to hear Mark's view on this.
I do think, on net, Nancy Pelosi can be a very masterful leader, again, inside.
But I do think she's become a central liability for people around the country.
Now, the question would be, okay, if they got rid of Nancy Pelosi as party leader, would the next person be just as unpopular?
And potentially, but I think potentially not.
And I do think if you're a Democrat, you do have to think about who is currently the face of our party.
Pelosi says she's worth the cost.
She's worth the cost?
No.
If you're a Democrat, you have to ask yourself, who is the face of our party?
Oh, fuck.
I missed that.
Let me hear it again.
Oh, my God.
Great catch.
I do think Nancy Pelosi can be a very masterful leader, again, inside.
But I do think she's become a central liability for people around the country.
Now, the question would be, okay, if they got rid of Nancy Pelosi as party leader, would the next person be just as unpopular?
And potentially, but I think potentially not.
And I do think if you're a Democrat, you do have to think about who is currently the face of our party.
Pelosi says she's worth the cost.
Oh, you get it.
It's early, but it's one of the better ones.
Clip of the day.
Damn.
Good one.
Well, he should be fired.
He should.
Now, I'm, uh, or just admit it.
Now, I know you can get out of this.
There's a way of parsing what he said to me.
Well, I was kind of referring to it.
If, you know, there's a way of parsing.
Yeah, you could do that.
I understand.
But in reality, if you're not a Democrat, it doesn't flow off the tongue so easily.
You don't say our party.
No, you say the party.
The party, their party.
Their party is what you would say.
So when he says...
He said our party, just as if it was, he was part of it.
That's the giveaway.
This guy is a Democrat from the New York Times.
Gee, big shock.
Nice.
Good one.
Well, on the other side of the street.
Five years, but I've done it.
You've done it finally.
Taking him down.
Brooks.
A fatal kill shot from Dvorak.
Take that, Brooks.
Well, big story in the Washington Post.
Oh, yeah, we got more information on Putin himself directing the election interference in we got more information on Putin himself directing the election interference in the I hope you've read this.
Yeah.
One of the authors of this article, Greg Miller from WAPO, It was on PBS NewsHour.
I hope I'm not stepping on your beat, but I did pick this up.
I wanted to play a few clips from it.
It's really unbelievable information, if true.
In early August, the CIA comes to the White House with a really remarkable piece of intelligence.
It's drawn on sourcing deep inside the Russian government.
It establishes that Putin himself is directing this operation, this election interference that has just And
now we know!
If you read the article, you know it was Vladimir Putin who came up with Lock it up.
Just lock it up, Donald.
It's all good.
Lock it up.
Putin!
Then notice sources deep within inside the Russian government at high levels.
Is there any possibility, Wappo, Wappo, Wappo, Wappo, that you're being toyed with?
Now I can imagine the laughter.
Oh, look at these stupid idiots from Wappo, Wappo.
And they publish anything I give to them.
Crazy.
I wouldn't be surprised.
So, now what everyone has been saying, and this is why this report came out.
I mean, by the way, this is like a childish view of the world.
This is like when you see people protesting.
Spy versus spy.
Yeah, and you see people protesting.
I always get a kick at these people.
We should bring down the government.
We should do this.
We should buy local.
I mean, the system doesn't work that way anymore.
It's so complex.
All I have to do is look out on the highway and you can see thousands of trucks.
These thousands of trucks, which have to be scheduled and all the rest of it to deliver things to here and there and back and forth, is you can't bring down the system anymore.
Because then you're all going to starve to death.
And so there's this similar kind of thing about Putin.
This guy apparently just sits around smoking cigarettes, doing nothing, because he's got nothing to do.
He apparently has nothing to do.
No, I have nothing to do.
He walks through the big gold doors.
I'm going to play some hockey now.
Yeah.
Unbelievable that they would think this.
But it goes even further because here is the real spy stuff is how these reports were delivered.
Now, what was happening in the news overall in the past week was, hey, wait a minute.
If Russia hacked our election, well, hold on.
Obama was president.
Who's in charge?
Why didn't he stop it?
What's going on?
He didn't do anything.
He just let it happen.
And now this article, this is what this article is about.
Not really about anything but explaining why President Obama didn't do anything publicly.
Because he was definitely on the inside.
You also point out the levels of secrecy and precaution taken by the administration and the intelligence agencies in how this information gets to the president and even how people meet to talk about it and share information.
Yeah, it's really remarkable the precautions that the administration was taking with this information.
This intel, when it's delivered to the White House, Is brought by courier in an envelope with restricted markings on it.
It's eyes only, which means it can only be shared with the four people who are named on the envelope, President Obama and three of his senior aides.
They then have to see Valerie Jarrett, Michelle Obama, and Reggie Love.
That's probably the four names on it.
Woo-hoo!
They then have to, when they're done reading this thing, put it back in the envelope, send it straight back to the CIA. It sets in motion a series of meetings, high-level meetings at the White House.
In the Situation Room, only four senior officials are initially allowed to participate, although that circle begins to widen in the ensuing weeks.
And even there, there were things that I didn't know about how the White House works.
That apparently in the Situation Room, there are video cameras that send feeds to other offices in the White House so that others sitting at their desks can monitor what's happening in that room.
All those feeds were shut off for all of these discussions.
The only time that that had ever happened before was in the run-up to the Bin Laden operation in 2011.
Oh, okay.
That explains it.
So it was bogus.
Hey guys, we're going to talk about some shit that's not true.
Alright, turn off the feeds.
That's the way I see it.
Oh, turn off the cameras.
No one can know about what...
Hey, President Obama was eating and playing cards.
Please.
But here is the real crux of the article.
This is what it's really about.
This is what is being communicated so that we know that it was not President Obama's fault.
You know, you point out that this is in the backdrop of a climate where...
You point out...
There's an underlying assumption that Hillary Clinton is going to win, where Donald Trump has gone out and said the election is going to be rigged anyway, and really not until after the election does the Obama administration start to put all these pieces together.
Yeah, I don't think you can overestimate the importance of that, because the assumption in the White House and as well as across media organizations like ours and across the country, frankly, there was just an assumption that we were looking at a Clinton, a coming Clinton administration.
So inside the White House, their deliberations are, well, this is all important, but we've got to, we're going to have time to deal with this after the election.
In fact, if we don't finish dealing with it, well, the Clinton administration certainly can.
And also, they don't want to take any action leading up to the election that would be perceived as interfering politically to help Hillary Clinton.
They're worried that that would contaminate her expected triumph.
His hands were tied.
I'm actually buying into this last analysis this guy did.
Because I think there's some truth to this.
And one of the examples is somebody that was...
I don't know.
I heard this on the TV or somebody told me this personally.
But apparently the offices of the New York Times, because these guys are on top of everything, You know, it's so important these newspaper guys are on top of everything.
It was really until there was no inkling in a million years that Trump was going to win this election.
And they were preparing the front pages and doing all this stuff with it in mind that Hillary is going to take it no problem.
And it was like they were shocked.
Yes, shocked.
And that's where the big Dilla comes from.
We'll get to that later.
Now, I've got one last, just huge revelation.
Could not believe this.
The DNC and DNCC hacks by Russia, Putin.
This is so good, I like reading your email.
Um...
Now, the way I heard the story, the DNC and DNCC said, no, don't worry, FBI, we got crowdfire on the, they're doing it for us, they're doing it, they are the ones that have identified, they've already done the report, here you go, here's the report.
Comey said in his testimony, very reputable firm, crowdsource.
And he said, no, we have- Crowdstrike.
Crowdstrike, cried force, whatever.
Yes, crowds, crowd, crowd, yeah.
Well, we know which guys we're talking about.
Yeah, exactly.
They got that nice map with all those little cyber attacks taking place every minute, every second, I tell you.
Alright, so...
Comey said, no, no, no.
The reputable firm looked at it.
There's former spooks in there on the board.
But, you know, a company that has a pew-pew map is like, we have our question.
But still, if all of this is predicated on this hack that was done, partly on this hack that was done on the DNC and DNCC, you'd expect the FBI to go look at it.
FBI said, no, no.
Crowdstrike looked at it.
And reputable.
Fine.
That's not the way it went down, apparently.
And this is news to me.
Yes.
In fact, if what Debbie Wasserman Schultz says is true, then Comey definitely, definitely should have been fired.
The former Secretary of Homeland Security testified yesterday about the Russian hacks during the election, and he flat-out said that the DNC refused his department's help.
You put out a statement afterward basically saying that Jay Johnson was wrong.
Where is he wrong?
He's wrong in every respect.
Let me just be very clear.
At no point during my tenure at the DNC was I contacted by the FBI, DHS, or any government agency, or alerted or made aware that they believed that the Russians, an enemy state, Was intruding on our network.
At no point.
And I am a member of Congress who had the ability to sit down and be briefed in a classified setting.
Even Director Comey testified publicly that he wished that he had gone to the top of the organization.
We're one of the two...
Did he say...
I don't remember him saying that specifically.
Back it up again.
Now I hear that again.
I don't think he said that, actually.
I'll have to look that up.
Even Director Comey testified publicly that he wished that he had gone to the top of the organization.
We're one of the...
Also, Russia is not an enemy state.
I'm sorry.
No, it's not.
It's a rival.
Huge difference.
We're not at war with Russia yet.
No, we're not at war with Russia.
And by the way, I think he did say what she said.
Could be.
I just don't recall it.
...to sit down and be briefed in a classified setting.
Even Director Comey testified publicly that he wished that he had gone to the top of the organization.
We're one of the two national political parties.
It is astounding that when they had a member of Congress who was leading that organization, that no one felt it was any more important when we had a foreign enemy intruding on one of the two political parties' networks to do anything more than lob a phone call in to our tech support through our main switchboard.
Hey, Ben!
Ben!
Ben!
You got some Ruskies on the network, man!
But how can both of us work?
I want this for an alternate explanation for this whole thing.
For this whole...
You want to hear the whole clip first and then make...
Yeah, okay.
I just want to...
Let me finish my sentence.
It's...
This whole brouhaha...
And after she's done, I believe can be explained differently.
When they had a member of Congress who was leading that organization, that no one felt it was any more important when we had a foreign enemy intruding on one of the two political parties' networks to do anything more than lob a phone call in to our tech support through our main switchboard.
But how can both be true?
That's outrageous.
I mean, Secretary Johnson says that DNC rebuffed the help that they offered.
You're saying that no one ever contacted you.
Respectfully.
Respectfully, Secretary Johnson is utterly misinformed.
That is simply not accurate.
And much that has been written about the timeline of events by the New York Times, the Washington Post, that document through multiple sources, including me, that the FBI and other federal agencies did virtually nothing to make sure that when they were aware...
At the point that they were aware or concerned that there was an intrusion on our network by the Russians, that they did virtually nothing to sound the alarm bells to make us aware of that.
And they left, essentially, the Russians on our network for almost a year.
Now, I will say in listening to this for the third time, she's not specifically talking about post-hack and the CrowdStrike moment when they came in.
She's talking about them being on the network for over a year.
That was not explained, except to call the dude named Ben.
Well, how about this?
The Russians never were on the network.
This whole thing and that report that went to Obama was really a CIA report, came from the CIA, and they were using those systems that were discussed and never discussed by any of these news media guys, the software that the CIA developed and NSA developed.
One of the two.
That could spoof the appearance of the Russians.
Papa Bear, Mama Bear, and Goldilocks.
Yeah, all that stuff.
It showed up on WikiLeaks, and they would never bring that up.
This was a possibility all along.
And I've always been suspicious.
This is the kind of thing we can do this pretty well.
I think we're talented.
We got the hackers in this country.
They don't have them in North Korea.
Give me a break.
We have a whole culture of hackers.
We have thousands of them.
The North Koreans, what?
They don't have an internet.
But they're scary.
But they're scary.
So, and so that report that went to Obama, which nobody really, it just hasn't been published, not that I know of, it probably could have been discussing how they're making it look as if the Russians are doing this and that.
If you want to do something with it, you can or not.
And they said, well, we're not going to do anything.
It's not that important because Hillary's going to win.
Right.
That part, I believe.
And that would be the explanation of why Debbie Wasserman Schultz was never contacted.
There's nothing going on here.
This is nothing to get contacted about.
Nothing happening.
But she's mad now.
Well, she's really mad.
She's mad as a wet hen.
Ooh!
That's a phrase from the Shays I'm not familiar with.
Mad as a wet hen.
Very good.
I like it.
One more thing that we needed to try is, you know, Putin, he also influenced and brought Jill Stein to the forefront.
This is great.
I'm glad you got this because I was rolling my eyes too much.
I couldn't push the record button.
This is great.
Smirconish.
Stein cracks me up.
This is CNN. This is Smirconish.
I'm not quite sure.
The egghead guy.
The eggheaded guy, smirconish.
And his theory that he's going to lay out here is, hey, just look at how many votes you got, then how many votes it took for Donald Trump to win.
If those votes hadn't gone to you, if they'd gone to Hillary, then she would have won those important states.
And because Putin put you out in the forefront...
You know, promoting you.
He promoted you as like your manager.
You helped Hillary lose.
Does it make you reconsider the dinner invitation that you received in 2015 and whether him giving you that platform was itself a form of meddling?
Now, you know this picture.
I have to say something about this.
This is a very famous picture.
This Jill Stein with Putin and Mike Flynn.
They're all sitting there at the table.
Yeah, they were all at the same event.
And do you know whose backs are at the table across from that in the photo?
You know, I think I know, but I don't remember who.
Max Kaiser and Stacey.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, they were there.
RT invited them.
And therefore, I hope they can live with this, certainly Max.
Max, you are partly responsible for Hillary losing.
Yeah.
Probably proud.
No, no.
He's a big hillbott.
He's not a Trump guy, that's for sure.
He hates Trump.
He hates him.
But, strangely enough, Max and I can get along just fine because he's an adult.
The dinner invitation that you received in 2015 and whether him giving you that platform was itself a form of meddling.
Let's be clear.
But there's been quite a lot of evidence pointing to the hacking into our election systems, especially voter registration, but also local election officials.
There are grave concerns about the vulnerability of our election system, and that is not new.
People can go listen to the testimony before Congress just last week by Alex Haldeman, one of the foremost cybersecurity experts.
It's not rocket science, how to fix it.
Alex Haldeman, one of the foremost security experts.
Surely you'd be familiar with his work, John, as a technology journalist for over 30 years.
Offhand.
Cybersecurity experts, it's not rocket science how to fix this.
And we need to make our system protected, not just against Russian interference or Chinese or mafia, but also against private corporations, for example, who control our voting software and who have a stake in the outcome of the election.
But now take me inside the dinner you had with Vladimir Putin in 2015 and the prominence that it afforded you.
My question is, was that in and of itself a form of meddling along the lines of, let me give some attention to Green Party candidate Jill Stein on the theory that any vote, you know the theory, any vote for Stein is a vote that otherwise would have gone to Hillary.
What was that dinner all about?
Tell me about it.
So let's be clear.
That was a conference.
And that picture actually didn't really begin to circulate until long after the election.
So it's not like it was a public relations bump.
I think many of us are now going back and we're, as I like to say, zabrudering.
Oh, good.
Zapruder?
But he says Zapruder instead of Zapruder.
It's a P. Yeah, it's just Zapruder.
But he says Zapruder.
Zapruder-ing.
So the Zapruder film is the infamous film of JFK getting shot.
Made by Mr.
Zapruder with a P. But no, this brilliant light is Zapruder-ing.
I think many of us are now going back and we're, as I like to say, Zapruder-ing every step of the way of the 2016 season.
Well, it could also be, do you spell it as Zapruder-ing, as B-R-O-O-D-I-N-G? Like we're brooding, Zapruder-ing?
Or is he just a total idiot?
He's a total idiot.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Zapruder-ing, great show title.
Great.
I wrote it down.
Should be in a t-shirt is what it should be.
Cycle, and you know, Dr.
Stein, the argument, because I think she ought to have the opportunity to respond to this once and for all.
Michigan, you get 51,000 votes, Trump wins by 10,000.
What other states?
Keep them rolling.
Wisconsin, you get 31,000, Trump wins by 22.
But you can understand, looking at that data, you can understand how there would be an analysis that says Vladimir Putin was reading the tea leaves in the United States and thought, bring Jill Stein to dinner.
I know you had a meeting as well with Sergei Lavrov and that you went into Red Square and recorded those moments, meaning anything he can do to give you prominence is going to pull from her, despite what you just said.
Isn't that crazy?
Well, you do have her retort, I hope.
No, it's completely boring.
Thank you for this opportunity to let me in.
You could have cut it down.
I'll do it.
Her retort is the following.
There's no evidence that any Greeny would ever have voted for Hillary.
You're right.
And at least as many would have voted for Trump if any did vote for Hillary.
And she goes on and on with a very good argument about how Greens aren't, they didn't vote for Hillary for a reason.
You're mistaken somehow that I care what she has to say.
I only care about this insanity.
I'm a big fan of Jill Stein, so I do care what she has to say.
But yeah, you can put that other idiot up there.
But it's absurd.
Suspicious argument, and I thought she beat him back on it.
She did, but that wasn't the point of it.
Yeah, well, apparently not.
Two pieces of news about North Korea, since North Korea's already come up.
And I have my North Korea clips.
Well, I'll give you my news, and then we'll hear your clips.
News item number one.
President Moon, South Korea, is proposing an inter-Korean team for the Pyongyang Olympics.
North and South Korean athletes, very interesting.
And there was an article this morning in the Telegraaf, the Dutch newspaper.
Now, the Netherlands, you have to understand, has a very big camping culture.
We've never discussed this, I don't think.
When I was growing up and I entered Dutch school system in the fifth grade...
Well, let's first of all...
Before you go on, just because I know about this, but you better define camping.
Yes, that's what I'm going to do.
As opposed to our sort of camping.
That's exactly what we're going to do.
They are a big fan of camping.
And when I entered the Dutch school system from the international school, very closed and secluded in the fifth grade, then on Mondays, kids would be, ja, we went to the camping, and we had a good time, and we'd see all the people from the camp.
Like, what the hell are you doing?
You going out in the woods camping?
No, no, no.
No, we have a standing caravan.
Stock caravan.
Standing caravan.
Or a trailer.
Yeah, basically a trailer.
And on the weekends, people go to their trailer, and they sit next to other trailers, and they have a really good time.
They drink beer, and they do whatever.
But it's a huge culture.
Huge culture.
So it's not dragging the trailer around.
You have a spot, and you just go there, and you hang out with all the other people at the camping.
So, when you read, the North Koreans came to visit some campings And they were there with a Spanish tourist official, and they were really looking at a whole bunch of different options,
and what they wanted to do is they wanted to put together, very much like Benidorm, which is a big Dutch vacation place in Spain, Benidorm, they want to make, in North Korea, which you predicted, They want to make, what do they call it?
Costa del Corea is what they want to make it.
So they want to have a beautiful vacation resort near Orpesa?
Not sure where it is.
Had you heard about this?
No, no, I have not, but it doesn't surprise me.
The problem with the North Koreans is they're so insular that they don't have any common sense about how to make that as a tourist.
The way it goes, apparently the landscape is so beautiful, you don't want to do anything.
Just cut people loose.
And please understand that North Korea was created by us And that they act as if they're at war with us because we are.
The only thing that has come into play since the war is armistice.
That's all.
There is essentially still a war on between...
The war's never been concluded.
Never.
And that's what they want to do.
They want to conclude the war, but we refuse to do it.
Because of sales.
But now you've got this other annoying douchebag, Moon, who's ruining the sales...
That guy.
We can't keep this up forever.
And then the lies that go around it is just annoying.
And I'm going to play a clip of this off of Fox.
And Fox is one of the...
I've been studying their changes.
Very poor.
Very poor.
They're doing bad.
Well, I think some of the changes are beneficial.
I think they have some more professional people, but I think they also have a lot of incredibly rank amateurs.
People can barely read off of a teleprompter, and they don't sound natural even when they talk.
And the weekends really show the amateur hour of it all.
They have a few people they're trying to promote and they're substituting this Ainsley woman is going to be the one that's going to take over work.
The new Megan.
The new Megan.
And she's pleasant.
Her hair is like most of the hair at the Fox Network now.
It looks like Farrah Fawcett in the 70s.
Very old-fashioned.
Some of the hairdos, you look at them and you go, my God, what is she thinking?
What are they doing?
I agree.
And this Ainsley woman is very pleasant.
She's got a nice mouth.
And she's from South Carolina, which means that if she wants to turn it on, she tries to repress it.
But people don't realize that South Carolinian women have probably the nicest voice in the world.
There was a major...
And I figured this out.
I always knew they had a nice voice, but I never knew it was just South Carolina.
But this was...
Some years ago, I got to visit...
When I was doing books, I got to visit the Ingram distribution facility and sales facility where they had...
Ingram was the number one book distributor in the country, in the world maybe.
And their operations were in South Carolina.
And I was told by one of the people that we pretty much only hire women salespeople from South Carolina.
And so you'd go in there, and these are all salespeople, so they knew what they were doing.
This is the definition of a southern belle, I would say.
Yes.
But they have this sweet voice that you can, men especially, cannot say no to.
And Ingram would use these women as hard-sell women who would just sweet-talk people into, oh yeah, I'll buy an extra, oh, another pallet, sure, can you keep talking to me?
And...
Don't hang up.
Please don't hang up.
I was listening to these calls because you could just overhear anything because huge cubicles.
There's probably like 500 people on the phone, all at the phone at the same time.
And it was like, holy crap.
It was unbelievable.
That's what this woman, if she turns it on, but she represses it.
But once in a while, she'll slip into it, and you can say, oh, what a beautiful voice.
There's something about the South Carolina, and people in the South all know this, by the way.
There's a lot of Southern Belle accents that are very sexy and very prone to getting you to do what they want you to do.
Nothing like South Carolina.
Oh, I have the vapors.
Could you please get me some iced tea?
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, so anyway, so this is the Fox analysis, and I'm going to condemn it, and you'll see why when you hear it.
It's within artillery range of North Korea, and North Korea knows it.
They've forward-deployed much of their military to hold the capital of South Korea at risk.
Acting against North Korea opens the possibility of turning the capital of South Korea into a butcher's.
So, in other words, there are no options, unless, of course, you listen to Dennis Rodman, who just got back from a visit to North Korea.
Take a listen.
People don't see the good side about that country.
But I think people don't see him as a friendly guy.
But if you actually talk to him...
So when you see him, do you see a different guy?
Oh, yeah.
Does he smile?
Does he talk in the open?
No, we always talk, right?
We sing karaoke.
We sound fun, ride horses.
Okay, so we all know that Dennis Rodman lives in an alternate reality to the rest of us.
That's a given.
This is bizarre.
Oh, yes.
Well, I can only imagine what Kim Jong-un thinks of the United States as he chats with Dennis Rodman.
I mean, he's got to be wondering sort of, who is this man?
And what is his relationship with the American government?
Okay, we can stop.
Now, this guy was the expert from the Heritage Foundation.
The Korea expert?
Yeah, the North Korea expert.
Does he know how they think over there?
I guess not.
Well, does he know that Kim Jong-un is an outrageously...
Basketball fan?
Major, major, major basketball fan.
And he's not looking at Dennis Rodman and thinking, wow, Americans are weird.
Or as the guy says, who is this guy?
What?
He knows who he is?
This is disingenuous analysis.
He knows who he is.
He's the worm.
He used to play on the Chicago Bulls.
He knows exactly who he is.
He's helping the North Korean basketball team play better basketball.
He's like a coach.
He comes over.
But to be so phony about this, and not to mention any of the background, or give any insight, but just to say something like, oh, he must think Americans are weird when he sees this guy.
Are you kidding me?
This is just lies.
Fox is really hitting the bottom of the barrel when they produce this sort of thing.
It's just giving people bad information.
It's just bad information.
It's not doing us any good to hear this crap.
It's entertaining, though.
Anytime you can put Dennis Rodman on the tube, it's always good.
Dennis Rodman.
The guy can barely speak with all those piercings in his mouth.
With that, I think I would like to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C! As he stands for, Carmen Electra said he was better, Dvorak!
In the morning to you, Mr.
Random Courage, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to all of our No Agenda artists, but specifically CZM137, who brought us the artwork for Episode 9 or 4-0 of the best podcast in the universe.
Title of the episode, D-Leo.
And this was the restrooms with default and colored.
Fabulous.
Fabulous piece of art.
Very good piece of art.
Really nice.
And we appreciate all of the work that our artists do.
Noartgenerator.com.
Appreciate Sir Paul Couture for keeping that running.
It's been running for years, hasn't it?
That thing has been around forever.
Well, you can kind of figure it out by just backing it up.
I hope he does, because there's thousands, maybe ten.
No, I mean, by back and forth.
The show number.
I think it was about 150 shows in.
Wow.
All right.
Let's thank a few people.
Really?
Okay.
Yes, and we want to thank some people.
Sir Onimus of Dogpatch.
Sir Onimus.
Again.
Nice.
This is the real Onimus guy.
This is $800.
$800.
Does he have a note?
Yes, of course.
Just to give us crap about something.
I appreciate his feedback in more ways than one.
All right, this time it's wishing my wife and family Eid Mubarak and happy Eid to all the listeners.
All right.
Alright, so Eid is a holiday that is...
It's not really a holiday.
I think it's Eid al-Fitr.
Eid al-Fitr is the last day of Ramadan.
And it changes.
I think it's yesterday or today.
And so he's...
Possibly Muslim.
He might be.
You know, but he might be.
Maybe he's a rich sheik.
Hey!
Hey!
Take us to your harem.
We want to be in it.
Yeah.
So he...
I mean, Kim Jong-un has Dennis Rodman.
What?
I was going to say, Kim Jong-un has Dennis Rodman.
This shake could have us.
Yeah.
We're much more entertaining.
I doubt if he's a shake.
I think he's just another...
I think he's a diplomat of some sort.
I'm guessing.
From what he's said so far.
We're trying to piece him together.
But I think this is just the riding us for the fact that we don't even recognize Eid as an event or a holiday where we do have in the newsletter, for example, Canada Day.
Yes.
And I think there's reasons for this.
There's a lot of Turkish holidays we don't celebrate.
Postal delivery keeps my comments slightly out of faith, so I don't know if Eid donations were noted in the newsletter.
Oh, and we do it every year.
Please include mine.
A quote-unquote interesting side note.
Two shows before you read my previous letter, you and Adam had called each other out over the use of interesting and looked up alternative words.
I thought I would share a personal antidote.
He says antidote, not anecdote.
No, antidote, to help us, to stop us.
About 40 years ago, that helped me change my use of the word.
It wasn't a criticism, but an effective true tale to help the speaker hear themselves say the word.
As you may have noted in recent shows, the use of the word...
As you may have noted in recent shows, use of the word...
In other words, we've been dropping it.
It's a fact, and it never says what the anecdote is.
To hear it, you have to hear yourself say it, I guess.
I guess.
To be clear, Dogpatchians think you two are the schmoes of news.
Okay, now this is another interesting reference.
That's a Jewish reference.
No, that's, no, no, it's not at all.
Oh, I thought it was a derivative of schmuck.
It was, yes.
And it's with the C in it.
This is Schmo.
This is the little Abner Schmo that was developed in the 40s and continued until the death of the...
That's Joe Schmo.
Joe Schmo?
Is that where that comes from?
No, no, no, no, no.
And Schmo was an animal.
Very soon.
Look it up.
Someone of low intelligence.
That is the Jewish...
The schmo is an animal.
It's not someone of low intelligence.
And the animal is a little round ball of an animal that has all kinds of characteristics, including it is apparently very delicious.
What a sad characteristic to have as a species.
You're delicious.
And you have to look up the schmo.
There's a good schmo, and it's spelled S-H-M-O-O, and it's a good Wikipedia entry on it.
Two O's?
What?
Two O's?
Two O's.
Yeah.
S-H-M-O-O. Like S-H-U. Hmm.
Merriam-Webster doesn't even know that word.
You go to the Wikipedia and you'll see the whole outline of it.
Anyway, Al Cap, until he died, he used this character.
It was used as an allegorical character.
And there was tons of them.
They were like, the closest thing I can come to for Star Trek people are tribbles.
Like a tribble.
Except it had a face and feet.
Anyway, after interesting, he continues.
He calls us the schmoes of news.
Now, I don't know what that means, but he thinks it's a positive thing.
After interesting comments directed at my last letter, let me remind listeners that schmoes almost destroyed capitalism because they were so good.
No agenda is so good, it has replaced, displaced, dog patches other news media sources, leaving advertisers frightened.
Support these schmos as they displace your advertising-sponsored news.
Eid Mubarak.
And Eid Mubarak is a greeting for anyone who wants to look it up.
I've been looking up schmo animal on Google Images, and I see lots of drawings, but I do not see a single schmo animal in the pictures.
It's a drawing.
What is the drawing of?
Well, it's kind of what you described.
It looks like kind of a duck.
Yeah.
It's an animal.
Yeah, but why don't they have an actual picture of the animal anywhere?
There is no such thing.
It was a cartoon.
Oh, okay.
But you said it was tasty.
I was ready to go kill me some schmo.
I'm so gullible.
Hold on a second.
How about killing you some auric?
Yes, I'm going to go to the schmo farm.
Well, Merriam-Webster has S-H-M-O, one O, and that is an unintelligent or stupid person.
That's not the same thing.
This is two O's.
But if you do two O's, then it doesn't even show up in Merriam-Webster.
Well, Merriam-Webster should change.
Yes, they should.
The thing was drawn by Al Cap, probably.
There were two cartoonists in this era that were probably missed by the modern era.
Al Cap was one of them.
And he did this little Abner cartoon, and it had all kinds of triple meanings.
It was double entendres.
I wouldn't call it a deep cartoon, but it was better than the stuff we get today, generally speaking, except for maybe Dilbert.
But Dilbert didn't have these lengthy stories.
It did have a long arc in it.
The other one was Pogo.
And Pogo was a very, very interesting, psychedelic almost cartoon during the same era.
Well, you know what Dogpatch is, obviously.
Well, it's the time where he was in, but what...
Well, because it's Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch, he has a real Al Cap thing going on, Lil Abner.
Yeah, apparently, yeah.
Maybe, is he dead?
Maybe it's him.
Died in the 70s.
Oh, crap.
Yeah, 77.
Too bad.
Okay.
Well, anyway, does he want anything?
Can we do anything for him?
No, he just wanted to write us about Eid.
Oh, thank you.
Happy Eid to you.
Happy Eid to you.
Eid Mubarak.
All right, happy Eid Mubarak.
And you can give him some karma.
Yeah, some Eid Mubarak karma.
Here you go.
Enjoy.
You've got karma.
He's actually sent this time $800 in cash, which I'll have to put in the bank.
Wow.
Wow.
In an un-nosed return address envelope.
You got some balls.
Yeah, I think so.
Or some.
Well, I like them.
All right, onwards.
Sir Bernie Adam in Hinton, Iowa.
333.33.
ITM John and Adam.
This donation is from my son David's 33rd birthday tomorrow, June 26th, and makes my third nighting.
The first was for me, and the second was for my son, John Adama.
Could be Atima, but I think we pronounce it Adama.
Please knight David as Sir David Adama and add him to the birthday list.
Also, please give us three clips.
The Climate Gate?
Shut up already, it's science.
There's no real conflict.
Please keep up the great work and God's blessing to you all, Sir Bernie Adama.
Oh, thank you very much.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
Shut up already.
There's no real conflict.
You've got karma.
It's a nice combo, that.
Because they have outros, so you can kind of fold one into the other.
I like it.
Thank you.
Mr.
Bernie?
Edward Gartland in Menden, New York, $333, and his note says, where do I send notes?
You sent it to the right place.
Congratulations.
Here's some karma.
You've got karma.
Baby, if he has more to say, you can send the note to noagenda at dvorak.org.
Yeah.
Or to adamandcurry.com.
Yes.
Sir Oyce, but the fact you got a note in here is like, well, maybe that was the place to send the note.
There's like something weird about this.
Circular logic.
Let me just make sure I don't have any email from him.
That does happen sometimes that I get it, but actually more often than not, I'll get the email.
Well, maybe I got one.
I'll have to go look now.
You got my curiosity going.
What did Eric say on his notes here?
We're supposed to look at something specific.
No, some other one, and I did look for that other one, and it's not available.
Okay, here we go.
What's his name?
Edward.
What's the last name?
Gartland.
Gartland.
I got nothing.
No, I'm sorry.
I got nothing.
You know, if you get the newsletter...
Ah!
Well, I got Ted Gartland, which might be the same.
Here's my note.
Yeah, this must be Ted, Edward.
Yeah, Tedward.
Tedward.
Here's the note.
If it opens, there it is.
A&J, first DB call-out.
Oh, here we go, a DB call-out.
That's what we need.
All right, all right.
To Brandon.
Douchebag!
Who got me addicted to the show last fall.
I know about No Agenda from long ago, but figure just another Dimension B Left Coast podcast.
Podcast?
Why would you think that?
Really, man.
Which most, I guess most podcasts from a lot of perspectives are Dimension B, California, yeah.
Meh.
During the Trump campaign, I stopped listening to NPR, CNN, and just about every other media source because of their non-stop bias.
You are my go-to source for sanity.
Actually, I spoke to John long ago, 2007 maybe, when we talked about making an environmental podcast for his employer.
Really?
That's pretty obscure.
I was in the world, I was in that world for many years working for a company that calculated carbon footprints.
One time I went to a carbon conference in Washington, D.C. I figured it'd be all women with hairy armpits and dimension B metrosexuals.
So I dressed in my jeans and a flannel shirt to fit in.
I bet it was all buttoned down.
Very observant.
He says it was all lawyers, lobbyists, and bankers.
Where the money is.
Make no mistake, the environmental agenda is about power, money, and population control.
One woman I met was working on carbon credits for abortions.
What a great idea.
We could have come up with that.
Well, we didn't.
That's a great idea.
If you abort a human being, then you are saving just so many tons of CO2. That's great.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Yuck, he says.
Like a previous donor, I suffer from misophonia, hatred of sound, plastic bags, crinkling, rustling, etc.
And then he says something.
Yeah, we talked about that.
People have a real problem with that.
Maybe that is the opposite of an enlarged amygdala.
Your quality audio production is much appreciated.
It's an early warning sign, my friend.
I need some jobs karma for D.B. Brandon.
I'm hiring him in July.
Resist we much?
Fact check, false, and Putin on the Ritz.
Hold on.
Resist?
I didn't know there were jingles coming.
Sorry?
I didn't know there were jingles coming.
Okay.
Hold on.
Because, you know, I can't read a...
Yes, I know.
You make the same complaint.
You should record it.
Resist me much.
Fact check false.
Yeah.
And Putin on the Ritz.
That's the karma.
Jobs karma.
Okay.
Sorry.
Don't be sorry.
You've got plenty of time.
We look up notes on the internet.
What was the first one again?
I forgot already.
Oh.
I got resist we much.
There's another one.
Fact check false.
Oh, fact check false.
But resist we much.
We must and we will much about that be committed.
Fact check false.
If you're blue and you don't know where there's fake news, why don't you get your Gitmo fix?
You've got karma.
Sir Oystenberg, the Knight of the Steel in Rotterdam.
Sir Oystenberg.
Sir Oystenberg.
333.
I want to request a shrinking of the amygdala jingle so we can help people shrink their amygdala directly on the show.
Ha!
Yes, the bitter medicine that is...
Shrink that thing, shrink it, shrink it.
The bitter medicine that is the No Agenda show.
I know this does not exist for the time being, but maybe some tech-savvy producer can help us.
Yeah.
Help us make one.
Just a suggestion from a fellow listener.
Just to clear up from my last donation, when Adam said that my name was Dutch, my name is actually Norwegian...
As I am Norwegian living in Rotterdam.
Okay.
Grutus from Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
Grutus.
Grutus.
Grutus, yeah.
Well, they're Norwegians.
They're backup Dutch, you know, in case we run out.
You should check your privilege.
Oh, yeah?
You should check your amygdala.
What?
Enlarged amygdala.
Shrunk and frontal cortex face.
I start thinking about noodle voice.
Check your amygdala!
Huh.
Interesting.
Philip Smiths or Philip the Black in Oslo.
A real Norwegian.
$333.
Best podcast in the universe.
Sorry for the delay, guys, but now I'm back making the right choices.
Oh.
Love yous.
Title change.
Sir Philip DeBless is the new Baron of Oslo.
Fabulous.
I'm going to give him a karma for that, and we'll be handing out your title later on.
You've got karma.
Daymaster Klein, the Duchess of Japan, is here.
Ah, there she is.
Hello, Duchess.
$277.
Do you have anything before the words, been listening to No Agenda for the many years?
I think it's just I, I, I. I've been listening to No Agenda show for many years, appreciating it more and more with every volume.
Of course, I enjoy your fine and unique analysis, but your excellent broadcasting consulting group expertise has me now so attuned that I can barely listen to any of the lip-smacking local fry, long-paws-inflated blah-blah-blah of the other programs.
And where else can one delight in the theater of the mind provided by the image of Adam wearing a headscarf out of solidarity with Muslim women?
As No Agenda now approaches volume 1000, I dearly hope it continues well beyond so many of us can, because many of us cannot live without you.
Oh, Dame Astrid.
That's so sweet.
I'm going to give you a big hunk of heaping karma.
You've got karma.
They're just kicking ass, her and Sir Mark, with their architecture.
There's like, other than the face bag, like every week it seems like, oh, we opened this new building for the Emperor of Japan.
I mean, over here.
It's crazy.
Yeah, well, they got a style.
They got a style.
I wish I could afford that style.
Yeah, well, we all do.
Maybe they'll comp us.
Comp.
Hey man, do it for the show!
If they won't, I'm going to Frank Gehry.
Yeah, damn them.
We're going to Gehry.
Black Knight, Sir Steve Marchi, the Paladin of the Light.
By the way, I would never cheat on them.
The newsletter on the 21st got me.
I had to click on the picture of the stunned CNN anchors to get a better look at their dumbfounded faces.
I felt like I'd won something, so I had to donate.
I dropped a note in PayPal's Notebox, and on Tuesday's show, John skipped my note!
It hurt my millennial feelings.
I wiped the tears from my eyes and added the donation to my spreadsheet.
I noticed that I'm $251.80 away from my current goal of $2,000.33.
Well, here it is.
$251.78.
If you wouldn't mind chipping in a couple of pennies.
Yeah, I got some here.
I have one.
Do you have another one?
Keep digging.
I must have another one.
There it is.
There we go.
Oh, you got three.
Oh, we're over now.
Something to know.
Subscriptions work.
Cut out a few letters.
Cut out a few lattes and support the best podcast in the universe.
Let me read that again.
I didn't read it right.
Cut out a few lattes.
Oh, lattes.
If it's not claimed, I would like to take up the mantle of Protectorate of Long Island.
I would also like to bring WWE and dabs.
Dabs.
I like it.
Let me put that in there.
WWE. WWE says might be the realest thing on television.
Adam knows what dabs are or will someday soon.
I know what dabs are.
Explain to the audience.
Dabs.
It's a thing that you do with your nose and your arm.
You dab.
The show has been top-notch as always, and thank you for your courage.
Let me get a quick douchebag call-out from my friend Javier.
Douchebag!
As well as a couple of jingles, please.
Let's do a kill-a-kill.
Kill la Kill, aka Furious Freedom, pigs in the human clothing, a little kid, boom shakalaka, Nick's kid, and of course, Karma.
Thanks for letting me know it was a Nick's kid.
Now I know how to find it.
And Karma from a yes, buddy.
Karma for my family, friends, and the rest of the No Agenda universe.
Stay woke!
Yes!
Stay woke yourself, Black Knight Sir Steve Marchi, paladin of the light.
Fear is freedom!
Subjugation is liberation!
Contradiction is truth!
Those are the facts of this world!
And you will all surrender to them!
You pigs in human clothing!
You know what I just realized?
I think that's the original.
I think the one we have is marching.
This is so long ago that we made this.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Let me do this one for you.
We must acknowledge...
No, that's not it.
I'm just not having my day.
What's going on?
There we go.
That's the one we wanted.
Fear is freedom.
Subjugation is liberation.
Contradiction is truth.
Those are the facts of this world.
And you will all surrender to them.
You pigs in human clothing!
Boo, Churr-Legger! Boo, Churr-Legger!
Where's the karma, dammit? .
You've got karma.
Onward, John Fletcher, $222.22.
ITM, John and Adam, the show has been stellar as of late.
Can I get the following jingles?
Dr.
Kiki, she's popular again.
Shut up, it's science.
I believe in science.
Thanks, Obama, and job is karma.
I recently moved from Texas to Atlanta, Georgia, for a musical instrument repair job.
I've hit all my co-workers, including the owner of the company, in their collective mouths.
Oh, good for you.
Fletcher!
Shut up already!
It's science.
Oh, I believe.
It's science.
Thanks, Obama.
You've got karma.
I love it when our producers send their own jingles.
That's a good little ditty he made there.
I like it.
That's very good.
Very cool.
You can expect more.
Yes.
Sir Mark K., the Baron of Knight of Barron County.
B-A-R-R-O in Wisconsin.
2-21-19.
Damn it, so I forgot to explain the numerology of the 2-21-19 donation.
Still drunk.
Arg.
Arg, he writes.
I just sent you another 7373 to help explain the situation.
The first donation is 22119, which is 7373 times 3.
3 represents the number of times I donated without mentioning that Adam got me interested in ham radio.
John, your ditto used to get me laughing every time.
I'm now a ham and working on my general class.
Very good.
I would say everyone should do that.
Everyone should be at least...
Yeah, it's brain dead easy.
If you know anything about computers, it's like you already passed the test immediately.
You go online to the FCC, they give you the current test with multiple choice answers, and the only thing that's different on the actual test is the same answers are in a different order.
It's like flying in America.
I mean, yeah, there's some shit you have to do, but really, it's a license to fly.
License to learn while you're flying.
That's how we do it here in America.
Anyway, this is 7373, he writes, to commemorate the fourth time I forgot to mention that you guys spurred the interest in this new hobby.
Very good.
Well, 7373.
7375, Alpha Charlie Charlie.
Thank you very much.
He doesn't give us his call sign.
And he should be an exec because I see it.
He came in with a 7373.
Down below?
Yep.
We'll move him up on the list.
Yeah, but you're right.
Where's the call sign?
Yeah, where's the call sign?
All that, and he forgets to give us the call sign.
He always seems to be forgetting.
He's Forgetful Mark.
That's what we call him.
Forgetful Mark.
And there's another Mark Lins, who's also somewhat forgetful.
He's from $200 in Burnaby, British Columbia.
Maybe it's just a Mark phenomenon, but he doesn't have a note, and he doesn't have an email, and I don't know if he wants us to say anything, but we'll give him a karma just in case he needs it.
You've got karma.
All right.
Thanks, Obama.
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Still time to go out to pester friends and family with the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Thanks, Obama.
Shut up, you crazy.
Yowza.
Now, there was a clip I wanted to play in the first half of the show, which had to do with CNN.
Short clip, just a little interesting clip, but this to me was like...
I've noticed this before.
I think I brought it up.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're going to say.
So I'm watching this, and they got five guests.
And it's like, what kind of perspective are we going to get from five guests?
All of which, with the exception, and I'm not sure this is an exception, of a New York Times writer.
All the guests are spooks.
Here's the intro.
Who was hosting the show?
This was your buddy.
Anderson?
Well, then there's six spooks.
Yes!
The level of detail in the Washington Post story says a lot.
It reads like a spy thriller, sadly, come to life.
With us now, some real-life professionals.
Former CNN Moscow Bureau Chief Joel Doherty, former CIA head of Russia operations Steve Hall, The New York Times' Michael Scheer, Sean Turner, a national security analyst, and former spokesman for Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and former FBI and CIA senior official Phil Mudd.
Steve...
Yeah.
All spooks.
You don't even need to listen to them.
No.
All spooks, including Pooper.
Yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
But you know the thing...
What kind of coverage is we don't need to listen to spooks giving us a party line?
Yeah, we do.
We don't?
Yeah.
You're watching CNN for news value.
You're in the wrong place.
If it's for entertainment value...
I'm not.
I always just happen to be flipping around.
Flipping around.
I always have to remind myself that CNN had breaking news...
For a year about MH17. So, you know, with all the stuff they've got, it's what they do, is they glom on to one thing that does somehow stimulate people, you know, one topic, which could be, you know, scary Russians, spooks, spies, whatever, planes disappearing.
Oh, wait a minute.
It kind of rings a bell.
What is that again?
Is that the thing that was...
Disappeared or is that the one that was shot down?
No, 17 was the one that disappeared.
Okay.
And the MH-387?
No, 317 or 317, whatever.
The one that disappeared?
Yeah, no, that was the one that was shot down.
Oh, okay.
The one that was shot down.
I forgot about this until just now.
We're still waiting for the report from the Dutch investigators.
Wait a minute.
This is years ago and we're still waiting for the report?
Yes.
But wait, hold on a second.
Let me back up.
So they shot this thing down over Ukraine.
Yes, over Ukraine.
And they blamed the Russians.
And they have the black boxes.
They found the black boxes amongst the...
I don't think they've ever released the black box.
Mostly the Netherlands, folks.
MH370. 370.
Now, when was this?
This was like two, three years ago now, and they still haven't come up with a report?
Yes, three years ago.
But on top of that, because there's another piece you've got to take into account, the Ukraine Ascension Agreement, Which the Netherlands had a referendum, although not binding.
They said, we do not want Ukraine to be a part of the EU. And guess what?
They just signed it anyway.
Eh, we don't need you, Holland.
Screw you.
But just moving along.
So there was all of that.
Background backdrop.
And we're still waiting.
We're still waiting?
Yes, we're still waiting for the official report.
I've lost track at this point, but if you go to any of the Dutch blogs, they're still waiting.
From time to time, they come out with something.
Where's the Bellingcat guy?
Remember that douchebag?
Because that's what it was based on.
A photo which was crowdsourced from Bellingcat upside down question mark.
Who tried to crowdfund his operation.
It didn't work out.
I don't think so.
Now, I ran into a story.
I'm just going to fill with a couple of short items here.
This is a CIA scandal.
CIA scandal that was not reported.
I'm watching mainstream media.
M5M. Have you heard about the CIA scandal?
I also watched the M5M. I have not heard of the scandal.
What is this about?
Hello, welcome back.
Now, your love of junk food could cost you your job, at least if you push it too far.
That's the lesson to be learned from a recent scandal that's rocked the CIA. Artist Miguel Francis Santiago explains.
Big news.
CIA contractors couldn't steal snacks without getting caught.
The contractors were working for the CIA, developed a special payment method to steal 3,000 worth of vending machine junk food, and were doing it for about six months until they got busted.
Oh, and the scheme was quite elaborate.
According to a declassified Office of the Inspector General report, they unplugged the machines from the net and used special blank prepay cards to retrieve the snacks for free.
So a CIA contractor whose annual salary ranges from about $60,000 to $160,000 had the desire to go to such lengths, putting their careers on the line, all to eat free junk food at the office.
The social media couldn't resist.
Now...
I thought this was a pretty funny story, and then I was thinking about the mechanism they were using.
Some joker, these Snowden-type guys, right?
Contractors.
Yeah, they know what they're doing.
There's a big machine that sells pot.
They're all North Koreans, I think.
She has soda and potato chips and all these things.
Mountain Dew, man!
And they got this screw thing that moves like a screw and the thing falls.
Now, what they did was, from what I can understand, is they had these cards, these smart cards that had money on them, or prepaid money, but it was the kind that was associated with a bank account to unhook the internet.
So they can't call, dial in and connect.
It can't call home, but the machine doesn't know that.
It's too stupid.
Okay.
And so it thinks it's taking money off the card when it's not taking anything off the card.
And it's coughing up to potato chips.
That's cool.
That's the kind of thing that if Abbie Hoffman were still writing today, he'd put that in and steal this book too.
I think you can do it with Subway cards as well.
I'm sure you can do it all kinds of places in which you unhook the internet.
Cool.
Well, something to be tried.
Yeah, well, people, their programming skills aren't up to snuff.
I have an appliance story.
Yeah.
That's kind of an appliance.
Oh, by the way, breaking news.
You steal from your employer, you get fired.
We know what caused it.
The irony is they weren't stealing from the employers.
It was stealing from the vending machine company.
Yeah, well, okay.
Okay.
We now know what caused the Grenfell fire.
Had you heard the news?
Well, I'm sure I haven't heard what you're going to tell me.
Well, I have a clip.
I was surprised.
I did not hear about this.
Stephanie Mercier is here to take us through the latest developments, including where the fire began.
Yeah, that's right.
Now, police have now identified what they believe is the source of this fire.
Have a look at this.
It's a Hot Point brand fridge-freezer appliance.
That's what police believe started this massive fire.
Now, they think that it started in an apartment on the fourth floor, but they haven't yet said how they think the fire broke out of this appliance.
Have a listen to the detective superintendent.
We've been working with the Department of Energy, Business and Industrial Strategy who are working with Hotpoint on the safety of that fridge.
We know this fire wasn't started deliberately and we know that the fridge freezer in this matter has never been subject to a product recall before.
Further tests are ungrowing onto that fridge.
Now, the company, Hotpoint, is asking people with the same model number to register their devices with them.
As we heard, there has been no recall issued, but officials say that a decision on forthcoming recall could be made in the near future.
What a great meeting that must have been.
Wow.
Hey, I got an idea.
Let's blame it on something that could probably never in your life have you seen catch fire.
I don't know, like a refrigerator.
Yeah, that'd be funny.
Yeah, that's great.
Let's see if they'll eat that.
The calling has begun, people.
Stop believing this.
Let's take it to a level.
Let's up the ante on this thought.
All right, all right.
What about Hotpoint, man?
They're going to get irked.
Hotpoint?
Who's Hotpoint?
Hotpoint's like a brand, man.
They're going to sue us.
No, no, no.
Okay, you give me that one.
I got the answer.
What about Hotpoint, man?
They're going to get mad.
They're going to sue us.
Yeah, they are, but they are if we don't do a deal with them.
Here's how it's going to work.
These companies, all of them, all these appliance companies, they never get anyone to register.
They can't get their address.
They can't get their email.
We need to know our customers.
I got a great idea how we can get customer database together for the mailing list.
I know.
The mailing list, man.
Hey, man, go to our website.
In fact, that's the only fridge whose name I'll remember now.
It's great.
Well, and the joke is, of course, it's called Hot Point.
Hot Point, yeah, that is kind of fun.
And so there you have your fire starter.
That's beautiful.
We got an interesting email in, historical reference from producer Colin.
ITM gents just downloaded today's episode.
That was 940.
And we'll listen, but wanted to share a page of history from the French Revolution, which appears relevant in light of recent discussions of PTSD and how it can affect the brain.
There was an entire group during the French Revolution known as Les Engageuses.
Les Engageuses, I think is how you pronounce it.
Quite literally meaning the enraged ones.
They were members of leftist elite circles who deliberately took advantage of latent anger within the Parisian mob by stoking it and then directing it at the government, the church, whatever, or whoever got in their way.
Makes you think about Madonna and all the various other rabble-rousers out there on the left and right.
Thank you for your courage, Colin Cunningham.
And so there's a wiki entry for this.
Les Enrages.
Enrages.
Yeah, I've heard of them.
I hadn't heard of them.
And it makes a lot of sense.
Certainly when you take into account this clip that I have from Dr.
Jordan Peterson.
He is the guy from the Scandinavian University who says, I'm not going to use those damn made-up pronouns.
This is from one of his lectures.
And I think the lecture was on YouTube.
So I would advise going to watch about religion.
Let me see if I have it here.
Well, I can't find it right off there.
But it was something about the...
He was relating today to the Bible, etc.
And he came up with the story of the lobster, which takes a minute just to get into the lobster story.
But it's very relevant as he finishes up how we...
Are you okay?
Yeah.
Oh, no, it made a weird sound.
Kind of like you keeled over.
Always going to keel over to you.
Because you're taking forever to get to the story.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
No, keep going.
Anyways, back to the lobsters.
I didn't make that snide remark.
What snide remark?
I keeled over because I was bored.
That's not a snide remark.
That's what it sounded like, and I've heard that before when the mic fell over.
I'm sorry.
Is this?
Because I did bounce my mouse.
I'm so sorry I bore you with my setups.
I'm really sorry.
No, no, you don't.
They're fascinating.
Really, really sorry.
So, anyways, back to the lobsters.
So these creatures engage in dominance disputes, and I think dominance is the right way to think about it, because lobsters aren't very empathic, and they're not very social, and so it really is the toughest lobster that wins.
And what's so cool about the lobster is that when a lobster wins, he flexes and gets bigger, so he looks bigger.
Because he's a winner.
It's like he's advertising that.
And the biological, the neurochemical system that makes him flex is serotonergic.
And you think, well, who cares?
What the hell does that mean?
Well, tell you what it means.
It's the same chemical that's affected by antidepressants in human beings.
And so, like, if you're depressed, you're a defeated lobster.
Like, you're like this.
I'm small.
You know, things are dangerous.
I don't want to fight.
You give somebody an antidepressant, it's like up they stretch.
And then they're ready to, like, take on the world again.
Well, if you give lobsters who just got defeated in a fight serotonin, then they stretch out and they'll fight again.
And that's, like, we separated from those creatures on the evolutionary timescale somewhere between 350 and 600 million years ago, and the damn neurochemistry is the same!
It was funny because I revealed this finding.
You know, I didn't discover this.
I read about it.
But I talked to my graduate students about it.
I used to take them out for breakfast, you know, and they were a very contentious, snappy bunch.
And, uh...
And they were always trying to one-up each other, and they were quite witty.
And for like six months, until it got very annoying, every time one of them one-upped the other, they'd stretch themselves out and like snap their hands like...
So that was very funny.
It was really very funny.
So you see this in lobsters, and so that's pretty amazing.
And one of the other things that's really cool about lobsters is that, let's say you've been like top lobster for a long time, but you're getting kind of old, and some young lobster just wails the hell out of you, and so you're all depressed.
But the thing is, your brain is dominant.
But you don't have much of a brain because you're a lobster.
And so now what are you going to do?
Because you just lost.
And the answer is, well, your brain will dissolve.
And then you'll grow a subordinate brain.
Yeah, and so that's worth thinking about too, right?
Here for a couple of reasons.
First of all, if any of you have ever been seriously defeated in life, you know what that's like.
It's like it's a death, a descent, a dissolution, and if you're lucky, a regrowth, and maybe not as the same person.
That's what happens to people with post-traumatic stress disorder, right?
Their brains undergo permanent neurological transformation, and they then inhabit a world that's much more dangerous than the world that they inhabited to begin with.
But we also know, too, if you have post-traumatic stress disorder or depression, that your hippocampus shrinks.
It dies and shrinks.
And you can sometimes get it to grow back.
Your hippocampus shrinks and your amygdala grows.
And the amygdala increases emotional sensitivity.
And the hippocampus inhibits emotional sensitivity.
And so if you've been badly defeated, the hippocampus shrinks and the amygdala grows.
Now if you recover, the hippocampus will regrow.
And antidepressants actually seem to help that.
But the damn amygdala never shrinks again.
Permanent damage, bitches!
Wow, where'd you get that clip?
From, I'll tell you exactly, one of our producers sent it to me.
Isn't that great?
Well, I... It's a fantastic clip.
I'll give you a borderline for it just to make you feel better.
It's a...
I didn't know the amygdalas got big and stayed that way.
I thought it varied up and down.
No, you're done.
You're toast.
Wow.
That means most of the people in Dimension B... That haven't been saved by now are probably doomed.
Yes.
Well, you can apparently, with serotonin, get your hippocampus back up a little bit.
Yeah, but then you get the serotonin issue, which is, you know, we have people that listen to our show that warn against anybody playing around with serotonin.
It's like you can't stop doing it.
I mean, you're stuck.
You're screwed.
It's a medical condition.
We need fMRIs for everybody.
you You could actually become unhinged in this condition.
We need a name for it for this condition.
I got nothing.
I got nothing.
I think it's funny that you put that in because this guy's a pronoun guy.
Play the Canadian pronoun law just to keep people up with this.
Meanwhile, Canada passed a law which is supported by Prime Minister Trudeau, making it illegal to call people by the wrong gender pronoun.
Critics warn that Canadians who disobey this new legislation could be charged with a hate crime, fined or even jailed.
Well, we've talked about this before on the show.
It's the same status, I think.
There is news from Canada, though, about the legalization of marijuana.
This is a big deal.
And I have two clips here.
Well, a year from now, the federal government plans to legalize the use of marijuana, but how much should you use, if at all?
As much as possible, dude.
When and how should it be administered?
All questions without clear answers.
But today, a group of public health experts issued a list of guidelines in hopes of reducing the risk of...
Pay attention, everybody.
...harm.
And Sarah Glashen is on that story for us this evening.
Well, Ian, it seems this really is about reducing risk.
They made it pretty clear right off the bat at the press conference that if you want no risk at all for marijuana, that you shouldn't use marijuana.
But they are also realistic.
They know that people do use marijuana and that more likely to once it becomes legal.
So the experts have taken a look at the research that is out there.
They have put together what you might call best practices, and they've put together some guidelines that are being endorsed by some major medical groups, among them the Canadian Medical Association.
And some of these guidelines are what you might expect from really any drug.
If you're pregnant, avoid marijuana.
If you have mental health issues, avoid marijuana.
But others are more specific to pot.
Let's take a look at those if we can put them up.
Okay.
If you're under the age of 16, they're suggesting avoiding marijuana because your brain is still developing.
Yeah, this is your brain, man.
This is your brain on drugs.
Any questions?
They believe that pot could have a negative effect.
As well, they're suggesting...
I learned it by watching you, okay?
...use.
In other words, once or twice a week is very different from using it daily, and scientific research indicates that there are negative effects from frequent and intensive use.
Oh, well, let's listen.
There are negative effects from frequent and what kind of use?
Forgetfulness, I think.
What's up, man?
I don't know what she said.
From frequent and intensive.
Intensive use.
Also, much like don't drink and drive, don't smoke and drive.
They suggest that you need to wait six hours before getting behind the wheel.
Another one.
Unless you want to clog the highway because you're doing 25.
That is what What they're talking about is their advice to not smoke marijuana.
That's not to say don't use marijuana, but they're specifically talking about the smoking of it, suggesting that it is hard on the lungs and that there are perhaps better ways to ingest it, specifically in baked goods or in candies.
And they suggest that might be better because it's not only easier on the lungs, but also easier to control the dose of THC that you're getting.
So these medical experts trying to get the word out to people across the country, what kind of reaction has there been?
Well, like I say, we know that there are people who do use marijuana, and so CBC reached out to those people.
Well, you know, we do know people who use the marijuana, so we reached out to them.
But did you just look to your neighbor in the next cubicle?
The guy in the control room, the engineer pushing the buttons.
Hey, man!
And they suggest that that might be better because it's not only easier on the lungs, but also easier to control the...
What a stereotype.
Come on.
It's not just the audio guy.
It's always the audio guy smoking weed.
No, it's everybody.
Those of THC that you're getting.
So these medical experts trying to get the word out to people across the country, what kind of reaction has there been?
Well, like I say, we know that there are people who do use marijuana, so CBC reached out to those people who are familiar with the effects of...
Familiar?
Hey, where's my phone call, CBC? Where's my phone call?
I can tell you all about the effects.
Familiar with the effects of a pot.
Find out what they make of this advice and these guidelines, and here's a little of what we heard.
I do it for anxieties and sleeping and eating disorders, and it seems to work.
To tell people to not use it, and abstinence is best, is coming out of their yoo-hoo.
They put that guy in who's completely hammered.
Hey, that's an ISO. Oh, it's ISO. Oh, you already did it, of course.
Well, I have a pop clip.
Wait, I'm not done.
I'm not done.
I'm not done.
No, I thought it was good.
No, I have two clips, I said.
Two.
Oh, okay, go.
Two clips.
I have the Prime Minister, Trudeau.
He's a pothead for sure.
Yeah, but he's saying some stuff that my fellow weed enthusiasts may want to be careful of over there in Scandinavia.
You've made these steps towards legalizing marijuana.
You're pushing that forward next year.
And it may be in place by the summer of 2018.
One thing I've noticed in all these, is the government going to make money out of this?
Is this going to be something you tax?
It's the one bit which isn't very clear to me.
Well, it's not very clear to you because we haven't focused on that.
The reason we are choosing to legalize and control marijuana...
Whoa!
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
Did you hear what he said?
Yeah.
Control.
It's all about control of your weed, people.
Legalize and control marijuana is because the current system is not protecting our kids.
It's right now easier for an underage Canadian, a teenager, to buy a joint than it is for them to get their hands on a bottle of beer.
And whatever you may think about the relative harms of marijuana versus alcohol or cigarettes...
Marijuana is not good for the developing brain.
It's not good for our kids.
We need to do a better job of making it more difficult, at least as difficult as it is to access alcohol, as it can be.
And that's the main part of our legalization strategy, along with recognizing that criminal organizations and street gangs are making billions of dollars every single year off of the sale of marijuana, which they then funnel into other criminal activities.
So you put those two things together, you realize we have a system that isn't working.
Can we change it?
Can we make it more difficult for young people to access marijuana?
It's all the focus on, oh, 16-year-olds, oh, yeah, yeah.
There's something else going on.
Can we put...
The sale of marijuana through at least a regulated and overseen frame that the government will put forward to make sure there's quality control, make sure that the profits aren't going into illicit corners.
Hide your seeds, people.
There's going to be two levels.
There's going to be, for the schmucks like you and me, here's what the government says you can have.
They're going to say how much THC you can have.
Sure, the profits aren't going into illicit corners.
And yes, draw on tax revenues that can then be put into...
It can be put into war and stuff like that.
That's what you want with your tax dollars.
Like education campaigns, better advocacy, better work in mental health and addiction services for all drugs.
Those are the kinds of things that we see as A logical step forward.
So the lens we're taking, yes, there will most likely be plenty of economic activity and alcohol as a model.
You have big global players in beer in Canada, but you also have a lot of microbreweries.
And there's that capacity and consumer choice if you want to choose what you want.
There are options out there.
Stone, man!
We're just a bunch of schmoes for these people.
Schmoes.
Here, your schmo joint.
You can have this one.
All right, well.
You got another one?
No.
Okay, I'm going to play something.
It's about pot, but it's a different tact.
If you haven't noticed, and I believe somebody even tweeted me something, and maybe you got an email.
Oh!
Studies are showing that, you know, when you use pot, you're going to get into a car wreck.
And there's been a lot of these floating around.
All of a sudden, again, we have these last ditches that don't legalize it because you're going to get into a car wreck.
And anyone who's in the area where it's legal, Washington State's a good example.
And my wife points this out because she's up there all the time.
Yeah, you can spot these stoners in these cars because they're driving around A stoner.
A guy is stoned.
Driving.
Stoned.
They're driving around some old Nissan.
It's never been washed.
It's got like one wobbly tire.
It's kind of crabbed.
Does it have a fish on the back and an Obama sticker?
Obama sticker.
It's going down the road about 18 miles an hour.
Dude, slow down, man.
So this is not really, you know, yeah, I guess you could run, you could, if you're going down the road at normal speeds, you could rear-end them, I suppose that could cause an accident.
So the accident thing is, I think, I just found it to be peculiar that they were running these stories.
CBS, who must have one stone or someplace in the edit room or somewhere.
Easter eggs, putting Easter eggs in.
Well, this is the story on the driving impaired in Colorado, and they show the chart.
In Colorado, since they legalized it two years ago, the wrecks have gone up 14%, and Washington has gone up.
A little bit and a little bit in Oregon.
But nothing that really, there's no real numbers here, but the 14% is concerning, except when you actually look into this whole picture, and it's kind of revealed within the package, and you can hear it.
...for those fronts.
Our industry spends $70 billion a year in research and development, which is more than any other industry.
So in general, we're encouraged by the direction that we're heading.
I think everybody agrees.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, this is CBS News on driving impaired.
I'm sorry.
Here we go.
A new insurance study out this week looked at car crashes in several states that allow the use of recreational marijuana.
Barry Peterson reports from Denver.
Colorado led the nation with the first sales of legal recreational marijuana in 2014, but the drug's impact on roadway crashes has not been well documented.
Now, the Highway Loss Data Institute has reported an increase in insurance claims filed for collisions in Colorado, Washington, and Oregon.
Three states where recreational marijuana is legal.
Matt Moore oversaw the study.
Colorado, just relative to the states around it, we're seeing an increase of almost 14%.
But those numbers do not match what the Colorado State Patrol has tracked.
Sergeant Rob Madden says the agency has actually seen a decrease in the number of driving impaired accidents since pot sales became legal.
Two years of data is not enough to allow us to draw conclusions, to come up with an explanation of what is safe, what is not safe.
Lawyer Brian Vicente represents pot shops and played a major role in Colorado's legalization.
Typically, you can drink one beer and drive, but if you have three, you're over the limit.
States are taking a hard look to try to figure out what is that three beer limit for marijuana.
There have been tragedies from mixing marijuana and driving.
Last year, high school student Chad Britton was killed by a teen driver high on pot.
And while pot may be legal, impaired driving is not, even though it's that much harder to detect.
What we are looking for is the impairment that we see while speaking to the drivers.
Barry Peterson, CBS News, Denver.
Wow.
So instead of celebrating...
The fact that this has actually gone down, we're going to turn it into a weed's going to kill you piece.
Yeah, it's going to kill you, and you've got to pay more for insurance now in these states.
Ah, there you go.
I was looking for the angle.
I was looking for the angle.
But if you have a medical license card, is that...
Oh, you probably can't even get insurance.
I would never get one of those license cards.
It's crazy.
No, why would you want to do that?
Before you know it...
You can't own a gun, and you can't live within 500 yards of a school.
Yeah, you name it.
So this is a scam.
So somebody who sent me, well, look at this.
Hey, the cop on the beat, the Colorado Highway Patrol says, no, it's gone down.
Hello?
Yeah.
And they would know.
It's a scam.
It's a scam!
It's a scam!
It is, just a simple scam.
I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, I don't know what you're doing in the morning.
Good point.
I'll probably lose my pilot's license eventually because of it.
Maybe.
And my ham license.
That's pretty funny.
CQ? CQDX? Anybody out there?
5-9, bros.
Hey.
Kilo 5.
I'll charter charter.
Well, let's thank a few people for show 941.
Yes.
Starting with a couple of the Canadians here from British Columbia in Alberta and another one from some in Lisbon, apparently.
No, no.
$150.
That's the Canadian.
Canada Day is July 1st and we'll be collecting $150.
It's the 150th anniversary of Canada.
It used to be Dominion Day.
Travis Dillman in Red Deer, Alberta.
Red Deer.
$150.
And he says, Happy F&B Day, bitches.
Alan Bowes in Langley, British Columbia.
Keep up the great work to heal the broken American psyche.
Sad to watch the youth.
Is that what we're doing?
Yeah, it's sad to watch the USA tear itself to pieces by political and manipulation.
No, no, no.
Every country gets the government and the M5M it deserves.
That's the way it goes.
We deserve it.
We deserve it.
And then finally, Jose Abreu in Lisbon wants a little job.
Karma, we're going to put that specifically for him at the end, $150.
And he says, could you shake the rain stick to help put out the forest fires?
Yes.
Yes.
I'm just going to let you do it because I don't want to...
It's a forest fire, John.
Come on.
We need both sticks.
Come on.
Get your stick.
Last time we did this is poured here.
Hold it by the shaft.
Ready?
I got it by the shaft.
Oh, here it is.
Alright.
Putting out them fires.
That should do it.
There are a lot of fires.
They're all over the place.
That shit works, though.
I want you to know.
It may rain in Austin in three days from now, but...
Steven Sandoval, $133.33.
Keep up the good work.
Another jobs karma for him.
And now Donald Borowski, our Sir Donald from Spokane Valley.
Yes, he's from the Galactic Council.
He also has Star Trek stamps.
United Federation of Planets letterhead.
There you go.
Hey guys, here's my monthly input of monetary fuel to keep the show running.
No agenda is my mental floss.
It clears out the nothing particles of mainstream news with which we are force-fed daily.
Cheers, Baron Donald of the Fire Bottles, Spokane Valley.
WA6. Oh!
OMI. 73s.
Kilo 5 Alpha, Charlie Charlie.
Hey, you know what?
Maybe it's not the weed that has caused more accidents.
Maybe, because I've been driving a little bit more recently.
Maybe it's the idiots who are driving and texting.
How about we compare that?
I thought I had a clip on that.
You did?
I think it was on the last show.
Well, you didn't play it.
Look up texting on your thing and see if you can find it.
LA Cops?
No, that's an old one.
That's from 14.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
Let me read the title of this clip as typed in by John C. Dvorak.
Text-tech-heiser-teh-news.
Oh, that's it, that's it.
.mp3.
Again.
Text-elizer.
Tech-news.
No, it's tech-heiser-teh-news.
Yeah, I have it here.
I have it on this list.
Okay, we'll run it.
We'll play it after that.
Tech-news.
If we want to do tech-news.
I'm saving it for that very reason.
Okay, onward.
Sir Kelly Spongberg in Rocky Mountain House in Alberta.
It has a call out to Canada today.
$113.06.
Now it's possible that this is $150 Yeah, Canadian.
Yeah, and Canadian.
So we'll give him credit for $150.
And Roy Pledge in Canada, Ontario, $113 is similar.
And he is also, yeah, he says $150 Canadian pesos to celebrate Canada Day.
Okay, so we have them.
And please, people, the parody that we're giving to our northern neighbors, it does not count for your godforsaken country and its currency.
Hey, if I give you 200 baht, can I then be an associate executive producer?
150 rupees.
It's like a buck fifty.
Dude, the Indians won't even give us that little rupees.
They don't give us anything.
That's true.
The Indians are cheap.
They're cheap.
It's just the way.
It's the culture.
They're just cheap.
We don't hate them for that.
No, we don't hate them.
It's just the way they are.
It's cheap.
Can't help themselves.
Doesn't even do about it.
Can't help themselves.
Andrew Newton in Swindon, UK. Oh, it says, plea de-douche me.
It's been over 18 months since my last donation.
Go podcasting!
You've been de-douched.
Andy Kluber, boob, 8008.
Seth, 7777.
I have a long note from him.
Oh, I think I got the same one.
Yeah.
Well, the point was, he said, there often comes a point in a man's life when he is forced to grapple with his shortcomings and assess his manifold failures.
From my experience, these moments of self-reflection usually occur when one, A, is drunk, or B, not drunk enough.
My most recent existential crisis burst forth when I, in abject horror, heard myself being called out as a douchebag a week or so ago.
I can tell you, though I've often been called hideous and unspeakable names by my friends in the past, There's nothing that so sharply and brutally cuts to the quick like being named as a profligate, non-donating douchebag on the best podcast in the universe.
And while I have weathered my friends' several douchebag call-outs in the past, yes, several, I'm ashamed to say, there can certainly be nothing worse than not only being called out as a douchebag, but being called out as a douchebag by my best friend's mother.
This heavy shame quite simply became too much for me to bear, so thank you, Susan, for doing what needed to be done to correct my ways.
So I've sent you my donation of $77.77.
Granted, it's paltry, but I'm a poor graduate student.
I'm hoping for the numerological power of four sevens will make up for its rather poor monetary significance.
Well, thank you very much, Seth.
Like hitting the four sevens on a slot machine.
He says the seven heavens, the seven classical planets, the seven hills of the great city of Rome, the seven stiff drinks I've had tonight.
Yeah.
Of seven and seven.
Gotcha.
Seth.
Thank you, Seth.
Brian Kaufman, Scottsdale, Arizona.
7575.
Baron Mark Klein, I believe.
Is that Mark Klein?
No, no.
His name is not...
It's not Sir Mark from Tokyo.
I thought Sir Mark sent...
Oh, there he is.
No, it's Sir Mark K. It's Astrid.
Yeah, Astrid came up.
But I thought Mark did.
But Mark's last name is not Klein.
No, it's not Klein.
It's Astrid.
It's Mark Dyson.
There you go.
But I thought he sent something in because I got a long note from him.
Dyson.
Isn't that Dyson?
Dyson.
Yeah, he invented the vacuum cleaner, that guy.
Yeah, the vacuum cleaner.
Okay, sorry.
Well, you know, we hear from him so rarely now.
I hear from him.
Mark Klein, 7373.
He's from Parts Unknown.
Tony Santos.
That's the same...
No, I'll just tell you who that is.
That's the same Mark that is Sir Mark, I think.
Sir Mark K, Knight of Barron County.
Oh, okay.
Got it.
Tony Santos in Sicklerville, New Jersey, 7117.
This is our great donation for 7-1-17.
We got two of them.
Brian Herziger surveilled the Nebraska Nuts.
Nebraska Nuts.
7-1-17.
Hey, Grebulon is back.
Grebulon is back from Tel Aviv.
69-69.
Don't break your teeth over my real name.
Okay, Grebulon, we won't.
Jonathan Calvert in Washington, D.C., 6.60.
Ah, that is, thank you for your courage with Devil's Dimes.
This is the Johnny of the Swamp.
God, you people are amazing.
Devil's Dimes.
Devil's Dimes, another genius.
Devil's Dimes.
Devil's Dimes.
It was a cold night.
I drove slowly.
Wait, wait, wait.
Go again.
Go.
It was a cold night.
I drove slowly.
The Devil's Dimes were ahead.
I knew there was going to be trouble.
I looked left.
I looked right.
Nobody was around.
I shot the gun.
That was the end.
Yes.
Slow clap, Mr.
Dvorak.
Slow clap.
Wait until you hear that because I threw you through the harmonizer.
It was great.
I need all the help I can get.
Jonathan Jobin in Vancouver, B.C. 5555.
But I skipped.
Andre Schmidt in Berlin, Deutschland.
Second donation.
5678.
5678.
Sir Payne in the Ass in Chantilly, Virginia.
That's Kevin Payne to you and me.
5432, 5432.
John Mooney in Marysville, Ohio.
5033.
Scott Nelson in Melbourne, Florida.
5001.
The following people are $50 donators.
A name and address or name and location.
Starting with Sir Philip Meason.
Parts unknown.
Larry Mason.
Parts unknown.
Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits.
50.
Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia.
John in Atlanta, Georgia.
J-O-N. Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon.
James Butcher.
Dalwildenew.
Dalwildenew.
Washington.
Dalwildenew.
I don't know how to pronounce it.
I should.
Joe Schwartzbauer in Florissant, Missouri.
Matthew Still, Parts Unknown.
And last but not least, Sir Alan Bean over here in Oakland.
Sir Alan Bean, who religiously sends us one check a month for $50.
And there it is.
That's the conclusion of our great producers for show 941.
Yes, 941.
And we appreciate everyone who has supported us with our value for value.
We give you the value.
You tell us what you think it was worth.
That works out very well.
We're still on the air, 10 years and counting.
Also, thank you.
Nine years and counting.
We're not 10 yet.
Yeah, we've celebrated 10.
What are you talking about?
Oh.
Yeah, John.
Our 11th anniversary is coming up.
I don't think so.
Don't you remember we had the Big Ten celebration?
Do you recall any of that?
No, I'm completely oblivious to it.
Hi, John and Adam.
Girlfriend karma works.
Just want to drop a note to say no agenda.
Girlfriend karma works through regular...
Though regular listeners of the show already know this.
Last year, I requested girlfriend karma after being single for this entire century.
In fact, it was back in the 90s when I last had a girlfriend.
Well, 27th of December 2016 changed that.
I met a beautiful young lady called Joe on a dating site.
CDFF. What is that?
Look that up, will you?
Cross-dressing something?
Joe is a nurse working in Saudi Arabia and is a Filipina.
I've just returned from visiting Joe and her family in the Philippines, which went very well.
I've attached a couple of photos for which thank you.
She's beautiful.
I asked Joe what she and her family think of President Duterte, and the general feeling is that Duterte has a lot of support as he is taking action against corruption, the drug trade, and the Muslim terrorists.
Whilst Western media portray him as a nut job, he is well respected by the general populace because he has done what he said he would do.
As reported correctly on the No Agenda show, thank you for your continued efforts to bring us the best podcast in the universe.
Regards, Sir Philip Meeson, Baron of Wales.
CDFF Christian Dating for free.
Damn, what's their business model?
Losing money.
I don't know.
All right, everybody who requested Jobs Karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for Jobs!
You've got Karma.
Where's the joke and have it?
David, buy more trucks.
It's your birthday, birthday.
Oh, so much.
And Sir Bernie Anima says happy birthday to his son David, who turned the magic number 33 tomorrow, June 26th.
Larry Mason says happy birthday to his son Blake Alexander.
He'll be 21 on the 27th.
And of course we say happy birthday to the entire country of Scandinavia celebrating their birthday on July 1st.
Happy birthday to all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe!
It's your birthday, yeah!
Okay, we have a title.
We heard him earlier, David Adama.
And of course, this is the knight...
I'm sorry.
My mistake.
So Philip Black, that's what I meant to say.
He has become the Baron of Oslo.
There we go.
It's good to have a peerage up there in Norway.
Oh yeah.
We need to go visit.
I would love to go to Norway.
I want to go back to Finland.
It's not in the EU and it's going to have a different style of everything.
But Denmark.
Denmark has never really turned me on.
I like Denmark.
Really?
Yeah, actually I do.
I like the island.
It's kind of a Scattered islands.
I've been on different parts of Denmark.
It's nice.
Let me do this knighting, John, because Sir Bernie Adama gave his son, David Adama, knighthood as he's turning 33, magic number.
So let's...
You got your blade?
Wait, hold on a second.
It's on the floor.
I'll get mine.
All right, tell me when you're ready.
Okay, I got it.
Take it.
Oh, there you go.
Okay, perfect.
Blades at the ready!
David Adama, come on up to the podium here.
Next lecture, please, would you kneel down?
Because you are about to be inducted into the Noah General Roundtable for all the knights and our dames.
Thanks to your dad's contribution, for which we are very thankful to have another Adama at the table.
So I hereby pronounce-icate thee, Sir David Adama!
Care of Sir Bernie Adamant for you, my friend.
We have WWE in dabs, Aero Gay and Ambien, Lead Slingers Whiskey and Gunpowder, Brisket and Brown Ale, Half Eggs with Lee Sauce, Progressive Rock and Russian Imperial, Stout Malt with Barley and Hops, Dotechis and Dutch Dominatrix, Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon served by Frohlein in October, Best Pau Lines, Breast Milk and Pavlum, Gintrail and Gerbils, and Mutton and Mead.
Anna, did I miss a nighting?
How many did you do?
Just one.
Let me see.
Bernie, Bernie, Bernie.
No, okay, it's good.
There we go.
Did you ever think that when we started doing this, it was just hookers and blow?
Right.
Well, but then we got our first dame, so then it became Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
Yeah, now you have a list that should be published as a small giblet.
A giblet?
Of different things you could do, add to this thing.
It's pretty interesting.
Where is the giblet?
I do remember when we got into it.
The hookers and blow thing was, I remember us getting to a beef with one of our first knights.
I don't remember this.
You can't remember our 10th anniversary, yet you remember this.
It was a dame, and they were of the impression that it was referring to hookers and blow jobs.
Oh, yeah.
And I had to explain it was referring to cocaine.
Which, as you know, is just as addictive as Oreos.
Yeah, or worse.
Or the Oreos are worse, I guess.
It's one or the other.
Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine!
That's the way it was, yeah.
So I've got to know from Ramsey Cain, our buddy down there.
He's down there.
He was ill for some.
I think he's okay now.
He mentions, he says, ITM, I took a derivative of the MMPI, the Minnesota Multi-Phase Personality Inventory, as a freshman in high school.
The purpose of this version of the test was to indicate what career best suited the subject's personality.
It took between four and five hours and was optional, so some of the students bailed out after a short time.
I stuck it out and got an interesting result.
The facilitator that had come to our high school from the University of Wisconsin-Madison explained that 99% of test takers would get one career suggestion, but sometimes it gave two.
I took the test very seriously, and I was lucky enough to get two possible paths to pursue.
I shit you not, my profile suggests that I become either a priest...
Or a clown.
And what's the difference?
I'm not sure what this says about me or the test, but I think it speaks volumes about those two particular lifestyles that a person could equally be suited to either one.
Keep up the great work, Cain.
I have a few No Agenda CDs out soon.
I've been working all week on them.
I'll send to an official announcement when they're up on the site.
Noagendacd.com, and we appreciate the work she does.
You know, I use GuideStar a lot.
GuideStar.org, which is the, if you want to go find Form 990s for the nonprofit groups, that's where most of them are.
A very disturbing change that has taken place in how they put their ratings up.
And, you know, there's been all kinds of, you know, weird stuff.
Now, it wasn't GuideStar, it was Charity Navigator, who literally took money from the Clintons and then gave them a five-star rating for whatever their rating is.
We're having nothing before.
And this is no rating whatsoever.
And this is kind of like the marijuana card.
We were joking about it.
You can't have a gun.
You can't live near a school.
You can't drive.
That will all happen.
When you now see that GuideStar, whose only job is to publish all of the reports, to have a searchable database, I guess they make money on the side with producing special package reports if you're doing something for research and have it all ready to go for you.
They are now including in their listings if a non-profit organization is a hate group.
And they are receiving this information directly from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
This is very bad.
Yeah, I agree.
If you look at the list of the hate groups that SPLC has deemed as a hate group, there's some that really don't belong in that.
A lot of them, actually.
Well, name two.
I have to look at the list.
Oh, I thought you had it in front of you.
No, I don't have the list in front of me.
But go ahead, you take a look.
I'll ask again.
Yeah, I'll be ready with an answer next time.
But the Southern Poverty Law Center, man, this, I mean, once again.
You know what I believe is probably going on here?
Scam.
Well, that's a word I very rarely use, but I think it's something like you get with the Rainbow Coalition or that thing Sharpton does.
Yeah, exactly.
We're going to pester you.
You want to get off our list?
When's our donation coming in?
You've got the Southern Property Law Center.
Calling you a hate group.
Yeah, you want to be a hate group or you want to help us?
Yeah, hate or help.
Hate or help people.
Because obviously if you give us money, you're not a hate group.
We can easily take you off the list.
It does a bit.
And a lot of these operations do that.
We should, you know, we could probably, I've always thought about this as one of these things.
You know, what does it take to pull off one of these stunts and get a bunch of free money?
Well, I think you're looking at an example.
Yeah.
Well, SPLC has, they have $700 million in the bank.
You know, there's some evidence that Yelp kind of pulls this stuff.
Of course they do that.
Everyone uses Yelp to manipulate.
Yes, I think I want a good table.
I'm a Yelp reviewer.
No, I'm thinking Yelp, because I know one place that they...
Well, didn't they get in trouble for doing just that a couple years ago?
Yes, and I think they still do it.
Well, I'm sure the sales guys are saying, hey, I got access to something.
I can push some stuff down.
I can push it down, man.
But Tina went to some conference about direct marketing of non-profits to millennials.
Oh, wow.
Did she get the literature?
I'd love to read some of this stuff.
I'll ask her.
She said it was very interesting how much design matters.
But...
And they have to have a story.
Yes.
Everything has to have a story.
Yes, it has to have a story.
What the hell...
Oh, I want a story.
I don't want to buy anything that doesn't have a story behind it.
I don't want to buy Del Monte ketchup because I don't run over the story.
I want a story.
I want to know where the tomato came from and what kind of a life it led before it was crushed and made into ketchup.
I've now completely forgotten how I was going to tie that into GuideStar.
I really completely forgot.
I don't know what the connection was.
But it was something.
It'll come back to me.
Damn it.
Well, I'll get the material from her and then it'll trigger how I was going to relate that to GuideStar and the SPLC. But yeah, it's a shakedown.
Yeah, shakedown.
That's the word.
Shakedown.
I agree.
I think it's a shakedown.
Yeah, it's a shakedown.
But anyway, it really brings into question this organization who are rating the non-profits based upon their category.
And they are bitchy, too.
They'll say, well, you didn't have that.
You didn't include that in your report, so we're giving you three stars.
Well, how can I make it five?
Well, you have to do everything we say, which is also a form of a shakedown.
Yeah, but there's no money involved.
It's not really much of a shakedown.
But it gives them more credence.
Do it our way or die.
There you go.
America.
Alright, onward.
Yes.
I have a couple.
I got a meme.
I want to get this out before we stop this show and go to the next show.
Because I was listening.
This is part of the Greg...
Greg Gutfield of the Five on Fox, which they've decided to make a big show.
They've changed the set.
It's a big glamorous set.
Do you think he's porking Guilfoyle?
No.
I don't think she's of that type.
She likes to portray herself as that.
Someone suggested that to me.
Gutfield and Guilfoyle?
I don't think so.
It just doesn't work.
But They did bring in a substitute guy I think is going to be the new Juan Williams.
I think Juan Williams is out and this new guy is in.
He's a black guy.
I saw the new guy, yeah.
Gay.
Yeah, perfect.
In fact, he's reminds me.
And he's the Democrat.
He's another black.
Yeah, he's the Democrat.
So they upped the ante because he's gay.
He's black, Democrat, and gay.
Perfect.
Yeah, he looks like Little Richard.
It'd be better if he had, like, a skin disease, you know, like...
He's flamboyant.
He's got the eye mascara around the eyes.
He's flamboyant.
He's got kind of the greasy little, short, greasy hair.
And Guilfoyle loves him.
She's a fag hag.
That's a possibility that you said.
I think so.
Um...
Whatever the case, the guy's hilarious, outspoken.
He plays very well on the show.
I think he does a good job of not getting carried away.
But anyway, the show is like a huge set.
They're really going to push it.
But I'm watching it because I was fascinated by the new layout and everything.
And then there was...
The meme comes to mind because...
I was scanning around different Fox shows and I started hearing this meme over and over and over.
And when I heard Gutfield say it, I said, okay, meme of the month.
Both of those fronts.
You know, our industry spends $70 billion a year in research and development, which is more than any other industry.
No, no, meme of the month.
Oh, Jesus.
You really want to play that clip.
Well, it made so much sense with your setup.
Meme of the month.
Okay.
This also had meme in the title.
Oh, yes, it did.
Okay.
Sorry.
Damn, there's a lot of hate coming from the party of tolerance.
They demonize those who disagree, and then they wonder why America is so divisive.
The party of tolerance?
No.
Oh, wait, don't say it.
Don't say it.
Let me hear it again.
Damn, there's a lot of hate coming from the party of tolerance.
They demonize those who disagree, and then they wonder why America is so divisive.
Demonize those who disagree?
No, no.
It's the phrase right at the beginning.
You had half of it.
Damn, there's a lot of hate.
Hold on, let me do it again.
Damn, there's a lot of hate coming from the party of tolerance.
They demonize those who disagree and then they wonder why America is so divisive.
Okay, yeah, the hate from the party of tolerance.
Hate from the party of tolerance.
I've heard this over and over again.
This came out as a memo.
I just know it.
I just don't have a copy, but when you keep hearing...
Hate from the party of tolerance.
Hate from the party of tolerance.
Hate from the...
This is like they're going to keep saying this until people call and say, we're sick of hearing it.
This is very interesting to me, having studied NLP a little bit.
Whenever you put a dichotomy together...
It confuses people's brains and you can give them a whole bunch of information that they will suck up.
So in this case, hate and tolerance within the same breath is very important because when you say that, the recipient's brain goes, what is that?
What?
The lizard brain.
What's happening?
And then you can say, buy Coca-Cola.
And you can do all of that stuff.
It's like Freedom Controller.
That's the best name I ever came up with.
Oh, that's actually pretty cute, now that you mention it.
Yeah, that's why I did it.
Yeah, well, good.
Hey, can we play the drug?
I noticed this meme, I got a little irked by it, and I want people out there to make sure when you hear it, you know it's just this bullcrap.
Do you have more examples?
No, it's the meme of the month.
But why is it bullcrap?
No, it's bullcrap because it's developed as a meme to be used on the public to make you hate Democrats.
This is just the same thing as the Democrats trying to get you to hate Trump.
This is some high-level thinking.
I don't think it's by accident.
Someone who knows what they're doing came up with this.
It can't be by accident or you wouldn't have everybody and their sister saying it.
I mean, the hate and tolerance, I think that's also engineered.
I think it's engineered.
Yeah, I think it is too.
Speaking of memes, remember we kept hearing, Obamacare is keeping 50,000 people alive.
Yeah, we never, did you get to the bottom of it?
I did, I did.
This was in, it was something Obama said, of course.
And let me get you the exact date of this.
This is 2015, March 2015.
In a recent speech marking, I didn't have time to get the clip, it was long.
Well, that is quite a stretch from it's keeping 50,000 people alive.
Fuck that.
That's insulting for anyone who has Google.
That's like the 97% insulted nobody cares about anymore.
So now it's Trumpcare will kill an extra 50,000 people a year.
That's now how it's...
That's our goal.
We've been working on that for a long time.
Finally within our grasp.
Alright, so...
I can play the drug guy in his meme that I think people have to be aware of.
Because the drug companies have not been able to rationalize why they charged $10 for a pill that they're not charging $60 for.
And they have all these phony baloney excuses.
But there's something in this.
There's a meme in here.
The guy screws it up, by the way.
This is the drug dude.
Oh, I can finally play this clip.
Yes, this is the one you've been wanting to play.
This is the guy...
This, I think, is the most onerous thing I've ever heard, and I'll explain it to you after you play the clip.
Both of those fronts.
You know, our industry spends...
Oh, stop, stop, stop.
Let me set it up.
This was at the Aspen Conference.
Judy was there.
Ah, the douchebag.
And this is the guy who's the head of the drug industry trade organization.
Douche R Us.
Both of those fronts.
Our industry spends $70 billion a year on research and development, which is more than any other industry.
So in general, we're encouraged by the direction that we're heading.
I think everybody agrees drug prices are out of control in this country.
Pfizer announced it's raising the prices of 100 drugs by 20%, including some well-known drugs like, I guess, Viagra and Lyrica.
Drug companies have been sued, I know, by some state attorneys general.
Alleged collusion.
Why does she have to say, like, Viagra?
Is that important to the story?
Probably important to her.
And then rising prices.
That was snappy.
What's going on?
I mean, what do you see as the problem here?
Well, I should start by trying to make sure that we're on the same fact basis.
So if you look at Express Scripts, which is a leading PBM in the industry, pharmacy benefit manager, Looking at spending in 2016, drug spending went up 3.5%.
And net prices are up 2.8%.
So if you went back two or three years, prescription drug spending is actually the lowest growing or slowest growing category in healthcare.
We did go through a spike in 2014 and 2015.
I would argue due to some anomalous factors.
So FDA approved a record number of new drugs, Medicaid was expanded, and a new cure for hepatitis C was introduced, which revolutionized the treatment of that disease and will obviate the need for liver transplant.
As well as reduce the incidence of liver cancer.
We're now in the back half of that spike, if you will.
The python has sort of digested the tennis ball.
And even CMS's own actuaries estimate that drug spending will be between 4 and 6 percent for the next 10 years, which is roughly in line with overall health care spending.
At the same time, a lot of finger pointing going on in the healthcare industry, between the drug companies, the pharmacy benefit managers, hospitals, insurers.
A lot of those fingers are being pointed, though, still at your industry.
We take these issues very seriously.
And we think there are pragmatic, consumer-oriented solutions to address some of the issues that have been raised.
So, for example, a lot of the media attention in the last year is focused on companies that are really nothing like our member companies.
They're companies that are taking old drugs without market competition and raising the price dramatically.
And we think there are policy solutions, primarily at the FDA, that would address those situations.
Similarly, we think as an industry the pricing model needs to evolve.
We need to move away from paying for volume to paying for the value of care.
That's what the administration is among the things the administration is looking at.
I've also read though that the critics look at that and say that in the end it may work for some people but it's not going to work for everybody who needs prescription drugs.
Well, again, our sector may be a little bit lagging other health care sectors in this movement towards paying based on value as opposed to the volume of care.
He botched it.
I have two ISOs, so we know what we're talking about here.
I'm sorry that clip was so long.
But play the ISO. This is what the guy's trying to say.
This is drug guy ISO 1.
Needs to evolve.
We need to move away from paying for volume to paying for the value of care.
That's the new meme, value of care.
Value of care refers to what's your life worth?
Well, we know it's only, what is it, $8 million, $6 million?
Then the cure for your disease is $8 million.
How much money you got in the bank?
This is value of care.
800.
You want to live?
Value of care is you want to live as opposed to volume, which is here's what the pills cost to make.
And you know what?
There's something nefarious going on here.
The guy mentioned Express Scripts, and we've had a lot of medical stuff going on here.
And this is a racket.
This is a big racket.
A lot of rackets.
But let's play part two of this clip.
This is the ISO 2.
So here's how he screwed it up.
It's paying based on value as opposed to the volume of care.
But it's one of those rare areas.
It was supposed to be based on volume and value of care.
But this time he blew it and said volume of care.
So that was just because, in other words, they're just working on their...
Did you notice this?
Volume of care is beautiful.
It's very funny, but they're still working on this bit.
I mean, they haven't got it down yet, or they wouldn't have made that botch, because it's a meme they're working on.
Well, it's not all that great.
No, it's horrible.
You can't remember it.
Well, he wants value of care is the key.
Value of care is, what is it worth to you?
What is it worth to you to be alive?
What is it worth to you to live an extra day?
In fact, I've seen some drug commercials that talk about, well, you take this drug with your chemo, you'll live another extra month.
Yeah.
Woo!
But then the side effects are you may die.
Yeah.
Well, you're going to die anyway, apparently.
We're all going to die.
This is where they're headed.
This is just extortion.
These are a bunch of gangsters.
They've got a drug.
It costs so much to make it.
They can mark it up and make billions of dollars just doing that.
But no.
Nah, we're not going to make volume anymore.
Hell with volume.
We're just going to make enough to keep a few people alive and charge them for it.
So you want to stay alive?
What's the pill worth to you?
That's what he says.
That is exactly what he's trying to say there.
She didn't catch it.
But no.
She's worried that Viagra is going to go up 20%.
Yes, exactly.
Good catch.
First thing she says.
Oh, my Viagra!
Well, that's a very, very good catch, John.
That is good.
That's where it's headed.
Even though he screws it up, that is also true.
Volume of care is what they're after as a business.
Volume of care.
But you're right to say, what is the value of care?
No more volume pricing, value of care.
What's the value of care?
It really is.
It is mobster-like.
Yeah.
So what's your business, what do you think your business is going to be worth with the window broken?
You think you're going to do a good business today with the window broken?
We only have one show opener that we need.
I mean, you can keep going.
They're really good.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Where are we at?
You know what?
Maybe you want to do that final clip for tech news or you want to wind up with something else?
I have a couple things left over that I can push to Thursday.
We can do the tech news next show.
I got arming Congress.
That's fair.
You know, I have this one.
I carried over this Amberlynn CNN complaint.
Okay, I don't know what this is about.
And I don't know what it is.
I forget exactly what...
Let's listen.
Bahrain's surprise to the U.S. And this content was airing on CNN. And right after that is when the phone calls started coming into the network complaining about me.
Bahrain is paying CNN. Oh, this is so old!
Yeah, it is.
That's what it is.
It's an old clip.
Yeah, that's really old.
It's circulating, that clip.
Yeah, I know.
It's coming around again.
This is years old.
We knew about it.
I got the clip I want.
I found it.
Okay, this is what we want.
Of course, because this just falls right into my long-term thesis about Brexit.
Okay.
So we're starting to hear now about Oh, is there any way we can reverse Brexit?
Oh, it looks like if we took another vote, the Brexit people would go the other way somehow.
Which is the polls.
The polls!
The polls!
Do over!
So here we have it.
This is a latest report from RT, and it's kind of just highlighting some of the reversing Brexit things they've caught here and there with clips.
Union polls now show that if the country got to vote again, it would reject leaving the EU. So just like Theresa May, the plan for Brexit went from strong and stable to weak and wobbly within the space of just one year.
While British politicians are bickering over Brexit, some of their EU counterparts are giving up hope that the divorce won't actually ever happen.
Some of my British friends have even asked me whether Brexit could be reversed.
You may say, I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one.
Brexit is not a walk in the park.
I'm an Anglophile.
I hate Brexit from every angle.
If your government decides to organize a Brexit...
I will be pretty tough on it.
Naturally, it will never be the same.
It will never be outside the union better than inside the union.
Yes.
Yes, I totally agree with that, man.
It will never be outside the union better than inside the union.
Boom shakalaka.
It will never be outside the union better than inside the union.
I got this guy nailed.
Women in Britain still have that illusion, which is a waste of time.
You know, I have a clip that fits into this that I didn't play from a couple of shows ago, maybe a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah.
As this was starting to heat up.
This is the guy that I know, Franz Timmermans, who is now the vice muckety-muck of the Starfleet Command over there.
Remember, this is the guy who came on the Dutch radio show before it got burned down?
Yes.
And he said, hey, what you guys are doing is good.
So he's super, he's very confusing to me, super elite.
Yeah, he's like, you know, hey, hey, hey, you just, do you want to leave?
You got to leave!
Is it likely that the bill to the UK for the Brexit is going to be around what Jean-Claude Juncker suggested, 50 billion euros?
Well, several numbers have been mentioned.
I think it's only fair that if you leave a club, you just settle the accounts.
That's what you do.
And this will be part of the negotiation, and everybody wants to have a fair deal on this.
And I think it's only fair to say to the United Kingdom, you have some obligations.
You entered into obligations over the years.
And if you want to leave the club, you just settle the accounts with us.
So Dave Davies, the Brexit minister for the UK, said over the weekend that even 1 billion euros is a lot of money.
I quote him.
He said they'd be willing to walk away.
We don't have to listen to the rest.
What, is that like a bar tab?
Yeah, you've settled your account.
Yeah, well, but you haven't actually given us a number yet, so how can we settle the account?
And somewhere in this clip, he supposedly said, we never asked you to leave, which is kind of like a scorned partner.
What does that mean?
It's like, well, we're in divorce, and now you have to pay me money.
Well, hey, I never asked you to leave.
Like that.
Huh.
It's not happening.
Eh, well.
I think your thesis is still correct.
We're on track for a reversal.
No one has proven me wrong.
No, not yet, not yet.
Not happening.
All right.
Then the Civil War comes, and then it happens after that.
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Got them all there?
Yeah.
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Under my Sharia law, there's only one thing that we want more.
To rip a load of Swedish blonde-haired oars.
Under my Sharia law.
Alla hapah!
My idea, that's probably what I do best.
I'm a builder.
The higher it goes, the more valuable it is.
We're thinking about building the wall as a solar wall.
My idea, I'm not sure, but I'm a builder.
That's what I love to do.
Mexico will have to pay much less money, and that's good.
My idea, what I do best.
We will...
Build the wall!
My idea, and that's good.
We will build the world.
My idea, and that's good.
Just looking at his head, I'm thinking, yeah, that amygdala is bizarre.
It's bizarre.
It's just, it's bizarre.
I take that, that's a real personality.
I don't know what you're saying, and it's a difference between...