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You win, you win, you win, you win.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Thursday, April 13, 2017.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 9 or 2-0.
This is no agenda.
We're more woke than a California college professor and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet here in downtown Austin, Tejas.
Capital of the drone star stating the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, it's time to toke up.
It's 920 day.
I'm John C. Devorak.
It's 420, I think, is the number you're looking for.
Oh, man, that was a mistake I made.
Correct.
We know you're on the 50-50.
We have 420 coming up, by the way, very shortly.
We know you're on the 50-50.
Come on, cop to it.
No.
You said you were doing 50-50.
I have done 50-50.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And I remember asking you if it was okay to talk about it on the show.
It...
I don't remember anything.
Hey, man, no wonder.
Hey.
Hey.
Too close to the beginning of the show won't work as a front of show.
No, no.
I will say, Tina, the keeper just texted me and went, fabulous, 920.
That man is amazing.
He's super high.
Yeah.
John C.
DeVore, he doesn't just do 420.
No, no, no, no.
920 is twice as good.
It doesn't really add up.
It's more than twice as good.
Wow.
I am really high.
Exactly.
So there was a thing people should try.
Yeah, they haven't seen it already.
And there's a lot of revealing stuff in it.
It's the special that PBS did on World War I. When was this?
When did this air?
It just, the part three, it's a three-parter, aired last night.
And it'll rerun quite a few times.
This is one of the best things I've ever seen them do.
And there's a lot of stuff in there that I just didn't realize.
World War I... There were pictures of Woodrow Wilson.
You thought you were in Iraq with these giant pictures of Saddam Hussein?
World War I? Woodrow Wilson had those pictures around.
World War I with Saddam Hussein?
No, I said you remember Saddam Hussein when they would go into Iraq and there'd be these giant heads of Saddam Hussein.
Sure, sure, sure.
Woodrow Wilson.
I've never seen these photos before.
Giant heads of Woodrow Wilson?
Yes, paintings of posters, giant posters that must have been 50, 60 feet high.
It's like a reverse Zika.
It's very strange.
But there was one interesting, to me at least, a revelation.
And I want to play a couple of clips that bring us right to it.
I'm excited.
We're getting a little history lesson here today.
This is WW1 CPI Starter.
I need to do a little setup.
This was about the government's initial propaganda arm.
Where this character I never heard of, Edward Creel, who set this whole organization up, they had 75,000 people working for him to deliver bullcrap news, fake news, to the media.
Wow!
In which department were these people housed?
Well, it was called the CPI. And you hear, play the clip and we'll get a little bit of that image.
Oh, that's fantastic.
I'm excited.
Much of their reporting was provided directly by the Committee on Public Information.
The head of the organization...
I just got to stop it right there.
Hello, Ministry of Truth.
That is...
What?
Public information?
That's the Ministry of Truth.
I love this.
Totally.
Directly by the Committee on Public Information.
The head of the organization, George Creel, estimated that 20,000 newspaper columns a week were drawn from CPI releases.
Woodrow Wilson, the great Democrat, wanted strict censorship.
Creel said that this would be a great mistake.
What we have to do instead is supply all of the news.
Everything anybody hears about the war has to come through the Committee on Public Information.
Creel's argument is that I'm giving you all the facts and you are free to reach whatever conclusions you will.
But in fact, these were very carefully edited facts.
Creel couldn't hide the war's cost.
Casualty lists began filling whole pages in the newspaper, day after day.
Nice music.
The loss is mounted.
The CPI redoubled its efforts to enlist civilians in the war effort.
Oh, bloggers.
We need to enlist bloggers.
This is the interesting thing about this Creel guy.
And I now have to credit him, George Creel, as the father of modern public relations.
I never heard of him before.
I haven't either.
It's really bothered me.
The thing that is noteworthy is that Edward Bernays worked for him in the CPI. And Bernays, of course, is the founder of propaganda.
Well, apparently not.
Yeah, this is big news.
This is like a Tesla Edison thing here.
Bernays is...
Which actually has been more explored than this guy.
Bernays really came to fame in 1923 when he wrote his book.
And he was working for this Creel guy during the war.
And Creel was the one who was doing all the...
Pretty interesting propagandistic stuff.
He was against the posters, some of those really nasty posters they did about the Germans.
His whole thing was real propaganda, the real deep-rooted stuff, the stuff that makes people want to join and fight the war as opposed to kill the Hun.
And they talk about this in the next clip.
Kill the Hun.
I haven't heard that in 80 years, John.
Good one.
Yeah, well, you'll hear it again in about two seconds.
WW1 CPI Traveling War Exhibition.
Oh, hold on.
There's two of them.
Yeah, got it.
In the fall of 1918, the CPI put on a traveling war exposition.
It was an attempt to bring the war home, emphasizing the sacrifices that soldiers were making for their countrymen.
In Chicago, two million visitors lined up to see artifacts ranging from Zeppelin wreckage to an Iron Cross nail brush.
The highlight was a staged reenactment of trench warfare, complete with a working tank.
The truly dedicated could visit the Army Mess Kitchen, where it was promised, meals are served in the same manner and using the same grub as is the fare of the Doughboys in France.
Stop, I need to ask a question.
I've never heard this, the Doughboys in France?
Yeah, that was the French fighters were called.
The Doughboy?
The Doughboy was the name for almost everybody who was fighting in that war on the Allied side.
As a phrase from the chaise question, how does that relate?
I don't understand.
Doughboy.
I don't know.
I don't know why they call them Doughboys.
I think if you looked it up, there's some vague explanation.
I want to mention a couple of things.
One, this exposition was huge.
They had two million people go to it.
Wow.
And it was massive.
It was large.
It was one of these big giant things.
This guy really had his act together, this creedal character.
And when they're showing a lot of the clips in this thing, the one thing that struck me...
Well, actually, when I get to the clip before the last clip, I'll mention it.
But there's a lot of stuff that they showed, including the giant posters of Wilson that I've never...
I don't know where they got this stuff, but it's...
It was stunning to me, and I'm recommending that anyone out there that gets a shot at this three-parter on World War I should definitely get it.
It's very anti-war.
Anyway, let's finish this clip.
Boys in France, do your part to win the war was the theme of the exposition, and George Creel was doing his best to make it the theme of American life.
Creel was a genuine idealist.
He wanted the war to be a war of ideas, of ideology.
He did not like the idea of, we must kill the Hun.
He did not like the idea of, if you are disloyal, you should be killed.
He thought we should all get along as Americans and do what we can to win the war because that was the right thing to do.
But whether Creel liked it or not, there was a darker side to the running of the war.
For anyone who didn't get in line, there could be serious consequences.
There was a sense that you were being watched.
But it wasn't always clear who was watching it.
You never knew if some magazine that you had subscribed to was suddenly going to get you in trouble.
You never knew if you sang a German song that your father or grandfather had sung before that suddenly you were going to end up prosecuted.
You see a rash of vigilantism aimed at making sure that anybody who might have any objection to the war does not express it.
And it's not now just a matter of being quiet.
Just don't say that I'm against the war, but actively demonstrate support.
Shut up, slave!
A host of organizations made sure that every American was doing his or her patriotic duty.
The American Protective League boasted a quarter of a million members across the country.
The Justice Department gave the APL semi-official status by supplying it with armbands and badges.
Yeah!
Armbands!
Whoa!
We got armbands!
What did APL stand for again?
American Protective League.
So this was, the more you watched this, and the two of us both read that book about life during the Nazi...
Yes, it's in the Garden, it's in the Garden of the Beast is the name of the book.
The Garden of the Beast is something like that.
Yeah.
Just right out of there.
I mean, it's like Goebbels took the disguise.
Hey, can I just say one thing?
I'm sorry to interrupt.
There is no R in Goebbels.
I hear every American say this.
Oh, okay, fine.
You know I say it that way, and I don't know why you're so into that, because you're mispronouncing stuff on purpose tonight.
I'm only saying about this one thing.
I don't talk about Washington or any of that.
I'm just saying I hear the corporate media say Goebbels all the time.
I just want to correct it.
I know.
The corporate media does, and I came out of that.
And you correct me all the time for stuff.
So...
Okay, okay.
You want to get back to this?
Yes, I just said one second.
Small interruption.
Jeez.
So...
That book was exactly what they're doing.
It's as if you had to really be in line or you were going to get, you know, like they did if you didn't do the Nazi salute all the time.
You know, people would slap you in the back of the head or beat the crap out of you.
It's just, the whole thing was lifted from World War I. Wow.
The whole Nazi phenomenon.
So it was just a fractal, is what we would say.
It's exactly a fractal.
In fact, I think that fractal is still in play, which is what we're trying to uncover on our show, I think.
Ooh, I like that!
Fractal.
Okay, I'm ready for the fractal.
Okay, so we go to part two of this thing.
League men embarked on illegal searches and seizures, detained and arrested men without charges, intimidated allegedly disloyal Americans, and broke up strikes.
In the fall of 1918, they unleashed a series of so-called slacker raids in cities across the country.
They organized slacker raids with the idea of rounding up men who are evading the draft.
They fan out across these cities, they go into Nickelodeums, they go into movie theaters.
And then they beat the crap out of everybody.
Now, the one little ditty in there I thought was interesting is they also went after strikers, people that tried to form a union or went on strike.
You have to remember, World War I was a banking scam.
It was the only reason we were even in this war.
There was no reason for the war to begin with.
Hold on.
I don't think anyone knows that as a fact.
Give us a little background.
No, I think you're wrong.
Well, I probably am wrong.
But...
The British were going to lose a lot of money in this war if it didn't turn around.
And the bankers...
In England, got our bankers to get our guys to get involved in this war and turn it into some sort of very patriotic.
What were we even in this war for?
It was ridiculous.
And then we're not only in the war, but we're knee deep to the point where we're doing all sorts of propagandistic stuff on our own people to make sure that if you weren't all for gung ho for the war, you get the crap beat out of you.
It was just unbelievable to me what a scam that war was.
But here's this last clip which shows you how little regard there was for the American public.
Because during the war is when, in 1917, is when the...
That H1N1 influenza broke out.
Oh, that was, yeah, when, how many million, like, how many people, like 18 million people died?
I don't know what the numbers are.
It's a crazy amount.
It's that high, but it was very high.
And a lot of Americans died, and often with this particular one, because they had nothing to do to, there was no way of controlling it, even with this decongestance, let's say, Somebody could get it in the morning and be dead at night.
Yeah, the Spanish flu, right?
Spanish flu.
Now, you can look up the number.
17 million I'm getting from the war room here.
Okay, well, it's probably, it could be.
Anyway, it was very deadly.
And during their showing of these clips, I didn't realize that almost from about 19 or 1916, I guess, or whenever that flu broke out, I guess it was in 17, early 17.
They show street scenes and everybody was wearing a mask.
Everybody.
Except the white helmets.
Yeah, the white helmets were there.
They were fine.
Every single person was wearing a mask.
And I'd never seen these films before, but this little ditty at the end, this last clip, is what kind of disgusted me, because Wilson didn't even want to discuss this flu because it would take away from his banker's war efforts.
And I think a lot of people just died needlessly because they didn't do anything about crowd control.
Oh yeah, all get together and you can all catch the flu at the same time.
This was the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, and the like?
The bankers?
I'm guessing.
I think so, yeah.
And the shifts?
Be my guess.
Let me play this.
Authorities told the public to avoid wearing tight shoes, tight clothing, or tight gloves.
To chew their food well and drink water.
Swindlers made small fortunes with potions and patent medicines.
But nothing stemmed the tide of death.
This was a national catastrophe.
And the president doesn't say one thing about it.
And part of his reasoning for that was not to create panic.
But the other part was that if you start thinking too much about the flu, you're not thinking about the war.
Because really containing the influenza epidemic means shutting down factories, shutting down war bond drives, shutting down mobilization.
None of that can happen.
In the context of the First World War, this is just another tragedy that must be endured.
I find it distressing.
And then it was that office, the CPI, that sent out the memos about...
All as well, citizens.
No, you don't want to go and catch the flu if you don't wear tight shoes.
That was the advice.
Don't wear tight shoes, don't wear tight clothes.
They're killing people over there.
Well, they were.
Drink a lot of water, you'll be fine.
Now, up to the modern times, that office was folded into something else and something else and it ended up in the Pentagon somehow.
It's the broadcast board of governors now.
No, 75,000 we're talking about.
We had discussed this before.
It was two or three years ago, I remembered.
I didn't think much about it.
But there was some mention that the Pentagon has 40,000 public relations experts.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, remember that?
Yeah, I sure do.
I can probably find that.
I'll see.
I thought that was an awfully high number, but now I look back on this history where they had 75,000 people working for this Creel character who was an ex-newspaper guy from the Denver Post, by the way, for you Coloradans.
I guess, as far as I can tell, this is still going on.
Wow.
I'm trying to see if we had a clip from back then.
Maybe it was just a news article that we discussed that we may not have had a clip.
I don't remember whether we had one or not, but I do remember there seemed to be an inordinate amount of public relations people working in the Pentagon.
Yes.
So that's still going on.
So the news we're getting...
This is the preface to today's show, but as far as I can tell, this is the same thing that's going on now, and this is the guy who started it all, and Edward Bernays and the whole public relations business stems from this guy and his gung-ho, well, you know, we're doing it for democracy, for the future, and all the rest of it.
Idealist.
He wasn't, you know, not an idealist.
Just doing his job to make sure that we're all in line.
Well, perhaps Bernays saw what was going on.
And, you know, it's not hard to come up with the idea of, I know, let's give the people false information.
That's not hard to come up with.
Maybe Bernays just...
The Creole, they said this was false.
This was all highly edited.
It was totally false information.
20,000 columns a week were pumping into the American media.
Are we great or what?
We're really good.
But I mean, the poor people that are suckered by this, and I would have to say that the non-listeners to the No Agenda show constitute the same group of people that just are going to get railroaded if they don't start paying attention.
Yeah, and they do keep trying stuff with Zika and Ebola and swine flu and Lord knows.
What I was going to say is that perhaps Brene just saw this obvious tactic work and said, you know what, I'm going to codify it and turn it into a, you know, like a practice.
Bernays, with that theory, I'd agree with this.
I'm thinking what happened is that this other guy, Creel, was like a true believer.
And he's the one who invented all these ideas, but he wasn't thinking of it as a manipulation process.
He just thought about it as a way to protect the war effort.
Sincerely.
But I think Bernays was like, wow, this is an idea that could be exploited, and took it to the next level.
So I can agree with that 100%.
Thank you, John.
I applaud you for this.
This is exactly why I tune into the show.
I had a good one later, too.
I learned a couple of big things.
First of all, it was not Bernays who invented all this.
And second of all, 20,000 columns a week?
Yeah.
And everyone read them because you didn't have much else.
There was not much other media at the time to consume.
It was all reports from the war.
Everyone was interested.
Crazy.
Well, this does fold in nicely to what seemed to be just a small innocuous event, but I think it's a lot bigger, particularly when it comes to the corporate media.
And this is sweaty Sean's gaffe.
Actually, I don't know if you have anything, but I have a little package of stuff here that I wanted to go through.
Well, first of all, I knew you'd get sweaty.
I have a bunch of different clips of sweaty Sean's gaffe.
But I didn't get the whole thing, and I figured you probably would for some reason.
I just thought you'd be the one that wanted to get that.
And you know what's interesting is that I was sitting here last night, and I'm like, everyone's heard this damn clip already.
Eh, screw it, I'll clip it.
Yeah, that would be you.
But in doing so...
You didn't get it.
No, I didn't.
In doing so, I figured out what was really going on.
And it's really quite despicable.
Okay.
Yeah, so there were actually two gaffes, and one got covered up by the first one.
This is sweaty.
This almost didn't get any play in mainstream, but it was what he was saying, and then this gaffe got picked up by alternative media.
We all laughed wholeheartedly because, of course, the truth always slips out.
I don't think those are mutually exclusive statements because I don't think...
I think that you can...
One of them is saying we don't see peace with him in charge.
The other one is saying we need to have him gone.
I think that's the point of both.
The goal for both of them, the goal for the United States, is twofold.
As I've stated, it's one, to make sure that we destabilize Syria.
So that's where the clip ended.
And I enjoy that very much because, of course, we know that has always been the goal.
I didn't know it was the goal of this administration to destabilize Syria, but that's the way it came out, so that could possibly be the truth.
Now, the clip ended here on every...
Are you going to say something?
Yeah, I was going to say, I think it is.
I think it is the truth.
I think it's possibly the truth.
Well, I want to play the whole clip.
Yeah, well, nobody does that except us, so go do it.
Right, but I will say that this clip, this particular one, which was sent to me by a lot of people, and it's kind of disappointing in a way, because people rarely, like, oh, this is a funny clip!
We'll get to the damn doctor on the airplane later.
When you don't have the context, you only have a little bit of video.
That is not proof, but our brains are trained for that.
So let's just listen to this in context.
The goal for the United States is twofold.
As I've stated, it's one, to make sure that we destabilize Syria, destabilize the conflict there.
Okay, so he immediately corrects himself.
I understand the truth wants to come out, but it's not like that's all he said.
And that was my impression looking at the clip.
What he's really trying to do is he's trying to say, hey, we're not up Putin's butt.
The threat of ISIS.
But then secondly, is create the political environment, not just within the Syrian people, but I think you can you can have work with with Russia in particular to make sure that they understand that Syria backed up by Russia's own accounting is me should be held accountable for the agreements that it's made with respect to its international but I think you can you can have work with with Russia in particular to So what Spicer is trying to do is something that the mainstream media.
This is why I think this was ignored in its entirety by corporate media is trying to say, hey, look what we did.
We're not Putin lovers.
You know, Russia.
These guys.
Bad guys.
Screw it.
Russia.
And the media has been all over Russia for months, a year, year and a half.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
But they didn't pick up on it.
Now let's go to the big gaffe.
Sweaty Sean's big gaffe.
Which...
I think this was...
Part of this may have been manufactured.
Yeah.
I saw at least ten versions of this, and they were all clipped together in all kinds of different ways to make it look like he's a complete idiot, although we believe he is.
Oh yeah, well, he's sweaty Sean, of course.
But I was hoping you'd have something that was more definitive.
The alliance between Russia and Syria is a strong one.
So there's a question coming, it's always hard to, please, please, new administration, better audio, less camera clicking.
As a journalist, and I think this is a set-up question, that's why I left it in, who's saying, well, tell us about Syria.
I mean, you know, all these questions are known beforehand.
This is all scripted, pretty much, these news conferences, or these spokeshole conferences.
And so this is clearly a scripted question to get Sean to talk about, and I think purposely, and we'll get into that in a minute, purposely to get rid of the Hitler comparison.
He screws it up in many ways, but I think that was the idea.
I believe it was manufactured, and it backfired on him.
The alliance between Russia and Syria is strong when it goes back decades.
President Putin has supplied personnel, has supplied military equipment to the Assad government.
What makes you think that, at this point, he's going to pull back in his support for President Assad and for the Syrian government right now?
Now, you've got to agree.
That's kind of set up.
It's like, hey...
Hey, just out of the blue, what do you think he's just going to pull out now that we lob some tomahawks over there?
I think a couple things.
You look, we didn't use chemical weapons in World War II. You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons.
So, you have to...
Now, that's where it pretty much stopped, but a couple people went further.
If you're Russia, ask yourself, is this a country that you and a regime that you want to align yourself with?
You have previously signed on to international agreements.
You see, what he's trying to do here is he's trying to say Assad is worse than Hitler and Putin is his friend.
Putin's the bad guy.
Rightfully acknowledging that the use of chemical weapons should be out of bounds by every country.
Now, did you hear any audible gasps or anything?
Oh, no!
What did he say?
Did you hear any of that?
No, I don't think you did.
No.
No, there was nothing.
Nothing at all but...
To not stand up to not only Assad but your own word should be troubling.
Russia put their name on the line.
So it's not a question of how long that alliance has lasted.
But at what point do they recognize that they are now getting on the wrong side of history in a really bad way really quickly?
And again, look at the countries that are standing with them.
Iran, Syria, North Korea.
This is not a team you want to be on.
And I think that Russia has to recognize that while they may have had an alliance for them, that the lines that have been crossed are ones that no country should ever want to see another country.
So he continues to try and get the whole Russia vibe out, and there's one journalist who says, Horide, could you please clarify what you just said?
I can clarify something you said that seems to be any subtraction right now.
Quote, Hitler didn't even sink to the level of using chemical weapons.
What did you mean by that?
I think when you come to Sarin Gas, there was no...
He was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing.
I mean, there was clearly...
I understand your point.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
There was not in the...
He brought him into the Holocaust Center, and I understand that.
But I'm saying in the way that Assad used them, where he went into towns, dropped them down into the middle of towns, it was brought...
So, the use of it, and I appreciate the clarification there.
That was not the intent.
Okay, so he apologizes within the same two and a half minutes.
And, of course, there are a lot of things that I picked up on.
One, obviously, is he's trying to smear Russia, which is the entire, he's been trying to do this, failing miserably.
He talks about he didn't even do that on his own people.
Sarin gas.
I guess you could do a little comparison with Zycon B. We understand the gaffe there.
Then he talks about the Holocaust Center instead of concentration camp.
And he also mispronounces Bashir al-Assad's name several times.
So I was fortunate enough to be watching CNN right after this aired.
And Brooke Baldwin brought in...
Who's the media douchebag?
Brian Seltzer?
Seltzer?
Seltzerwater?
Yeah.
Maybe a Jew.
I don't know.
That would just make it even better.
And listen to all the things they picked up on, of which none of them was about Hitler gassing Jews, but all this other stuff.
It was fascinating.
It's like they were trying to figure out what would stick.
They didn't catch it.
We know what did stick.
And this is a little long, but if you get bored of it, tell me.
But I think it's really interesting to hear all the things they pick apart, except...
Russia!
Okay, so this is one of those times where we're listening to this soundbite over and over to try to understand exactly what Sean Spicer meant.
I've got Brian Stelter, who just sat down next to me.
Do you think she really didn't understand what he meant?
She's trying to say...
Hitler wasn't as bad as this guy.
Putin is friends with him.
That's the message.
You got it, bro.
Your media correspondent and host of Reliable Sources.
And, you know, I've heard this down by now three times, as it happened, and two other times.
And now when he references Holocaust centers, do you think he's referencing concentration camps?
Well, that's the speculation online.
That's the speculation.
I wonder.
Can I mention something just as an aside here?
I've noticed this.
Yeah.
Because Erica Hill went over back to CNN, and I was talking to a friend of mine about this.
They kind of, I don't know if they encourage it, but I'm noticing with Brooke Baldwin, they're encouraging or they do fast talking.
Yeah, she does a lot.
She's talking way too fast.
Yeah, she may be a little pepped up on something.
I don't know.
She seems like an energy drink girl to me.
She has to be owed too many Red Bulls.
No, no.
One of those horrible little bottles you get at the gas station.
Oh, the five hours.
Yeah, that one.
I'm ready for my shift now.
Is it time?
Is it time?
He was saying there was sort of a gasp in the room.
Some people in the press briefing room were surprised by what Spicer was saying.
And it seems like, look, in this case, Spicer was trying to clarify and actually made things much worse.
The second soundbite you just played, the time when he was clarifying, it's actually when he says on his own people, raising the question about whose people.
And then later he says he brought them into the Holocaust.
It sounds like he says center.
Sounds like he's referring to concentration camps as Holocaust.
If you had said Simon Wiesenthal Holocaust Center, it would have been really funny.
Let's let him speak for himself.
He's got some more clarifying to do.
He's got some explaining to do.
Even by Sean Spicer standards, this is a pretty shocking one.
And as your guests were saying a few minutes ago.
Oh, it's not over.
It seems like every day in the briefing, there's something that chips away at Spicer's credibility.
He has an incredibly difficult job.
He's up there sweating in front of the TV. Ah, yes, he's a sweaty Sean.
TV cameras and lights.
But it does seem like on a daily basis there's these strains on his credibility.
And in this one in particular, I think it's shocking given, well, that it's Passover, that Jews across around the world.
This is, of course, leading to the incredible hate for Jews from the administration because, of course, Sean Spicer timed this gaffe on Easter.
Yes, Passover.
Yes, he hates the Jews.
...are marking Passover, and that just last night there was a Seder at the White House.
President Trump happened not to attend.
No, it's even better than that.
Oh, jeez.
Okay, that's the kicker.
...because President Obama did attend the Seders on an annual basis.
There's all these contextual issues around this that I think are going to come up now because of the comments of the briefing.
I was just sitting at a dinner last night.
I was telling you in commercial break, and there was a couple from Israel whose parents had survived the Holocaust.
And I'm just thinking of how they would have heard...
Can you believe this?
I've never heard anything like this in my life.
...what Sean Spicer said, and to reference these horrendous gas chambers in which so many men, women, and children were killed...
Think of the children.
...as Holocaust survivors.
And saying Hitler didn't do it to his own people.
You can't handle it anymore?
You're done?
It's just that they've got a 24-hour news cycle.
They have to fill it with this stuff.
Well, I have a few more.
I talked to you off camera, remember that?
And then we talked about this at the dinner we went to, and there was a couple...
What is it?
This is not reporting anything.
Well, here's how CBS brought the newsflash.
The backlash against Spicer was swift and harsh.
In a statement, the Anne Frank Center said Spicer's comments were the most evil slur upon a group of people ever heard from someone at the White House.
The most evil slur, John.
Most evil.
I would like to see...
Who said that?
That was CBS. No, no.
Who said...
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
Do they tell you?
I don't remember.
I made the clip.
I don't remember.
Well, they did say it in the clip.
They said the Anne Frank Center.
Oh, I'm sorry.
They never named anybody.
No, no.
No, it's a different one.
Yes, this is important, and for a reason.
Hold on.
The backlash against Spicer was swift and harsh.
In a statement, the Anne Frank Center said Spicer's comments were...
Yeah, Anne Frank Center.
Now, there's two Anne Frank Centers.
It didn't say...
I don't think it gave a name.
The most evil slur upon a group of people ever heard from someone at the White House.
But I can get you the name because the Uber Jew lawyer Alan Dershowitz was on with the overnight legend over there at the CNNs, and he was quite angry about all of this, particularly this Anne Frank-centered dude.
Alan, I want to get your perspective on this.
Stephen Goldstein, who's executive director of the Anne Franks Commission, has a statement that's scathing.
He said, on Passover, no less, Sean Spicer has engaged in Holocaust denial, the most offensive form of fake news imaginable, by denying Hitler gas millions of Jews to death, said executive director of the Center of Stephen Goldstein in a statement.
Spicer's statement is the most evil slur upon a group of people we have ever heard from a White House press secretary.
Do you think he was engaging in Holocaust denial?
No, and of course, what this guy who claims to be the head of the Frank Center, who's a total phony, there's no such thing.
It's a minor institution.
It has no credibility.
It's probably the same guy from the Syrian Observatory.
Within the Jewish community, he's constantly trying to get headlines by overblowing everything.
What happened here is the guy screwed up, and he apologized.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr.
Dershowitz.
So now we know a little bit about that guy.
I think the most interesting thing about that clip was that how much reporting does it take to know what Dershowitz said?
The guy's a phony.
He's trying to get publicity.
And you're giving him publicity.
Well, BBC continues to give the Syrian Observatory publicity all the time.
Yes, same thing.
I agree.
But how much work do you have to do bringing it back to my early clip from World War I? The CPI was very busy doing this.
How much work does it take when you start quoting people to find out that they're a phony, baloney operation and some guy's trying to get publicity and you're giving it to them?
How much work do you think it has to take?
Not a lot.
All you have to do is show up, invite your guests on, ask them questions, and hope they say something.
Rachel Maddow took a different tact.
She needed something we do, which I'm a little mad she's encroaching on our turf.
The same way that Ashad is doing.
Ashad!
That's one of his attempts today to say Bashar al-Assad.
That was one of his tries.
Here's another try.
No, I don't see a future Syria that has Bashar al-Assad as the leader of that company.
I have to say, if I had caught that one, then I would have played it, too, as a funny joke.
Bashar al-Assad.
If Rachel was here, she'd get a clip of the day.
She's not, but she's on standby in case I keel over.
His name is Bashar al-Assad.
The White House spokesman later went on CNN, still couldn't manage even that part of it.
Still.
There's no way that I can see a stable and peaceful Syria with Bashar al-Assad in charge.
Bashar al-Assad.
I know you've mispronounced his name a few times, but it's Bashar.
Sorry, I put the brawl clip right after that.
Bashar al-Assad.
Bashar al-Assad was the attempt there.
Talking is hard.
Everybody gets tripped up sometimes.
Yeah, gerbils.
Thanks.
Yeah, gerbils.
Alright, two more on this little block, because then we really came out, also, this started on the Don Lemon Overnight Sensation show.
The guy is from The Root, which I think is an NBC property.
It's a blog, primarily a black American blog.
And this is Jason Johnson, who took this to its natural conclusion.
Alright, look.
Inaccurate, of course.
Insensitive by anybody's light.
I'm sorry, I thought it was Don Lemon.
It's Cuomo.
It's Also, violates this rule about comparing things to the Holocaust to mean simply merely terrible.
Everyone gets in trouble.
When they use a Hitler analogy, everybody gets in trouble.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on a second.
When you use the Hitler analogy, everybody gets in trouble unless you're a prostitute, I guess.
How many times have we heard Donald Trump is Hitler?
In the mainstream media.
Mainstream.
Mainstream media.
These very same people.
Have likened him to Hitler.
Continuously.
Specifically, that seltzer water guy.
When they use a Hitler analogy, everybody gets into it.
And it's been happening more and more, frankly.
Yeah, by you, thanks to you.
It's a cheap thing to do, shouldn't be done.
Yes, then why do you do it?
All true.
Now it comes to what does it mean for Spicer and in this context.
Is it a one-off, or do you believe it is a symptom of something?
It's the office culture.
It's the office culture.
Remember, you had Ben Carson saying that slaves were immigrants, right?
They tried to defend that.
This is not the first, the last, the second, the third, or the fifth time that this administration has shown insensitivity, whether it's from an administration person or it's from Sean Spicer.
I don't think he's going to get fired.
I think the fact that he threw himself on the sword after this is kind of novel, and I think that's about him protecting himself, because had he asked his boss, he probably would have said, hey, you don't want to apologize, we can just move on.
But I think this is about the office culture of this administration, and unfortunately, it's not going to change.
Sean Spicer did apologize here on CNN. And look, we all understand the perils of Sean Spicer's job.
Speaking extemporaneously every day in front of that huge press corps is not for the faint of heart.
But is this one in a different category?
It is.
And look, I think that job has been hard under any president.
It is especially difficult under this president for the reasons we talked about in the last segment, which is that he regularly says things that he simply cannot support with evidence and that you as the press secretary are forced to kind of go out and in some cases defend what appears to be indefensible.
And here's the thing.
I've always thought the president can pick who they want for their administration, but Steve Bannon is a problem.
He's a white nationalist.
He sympathizes with white terrorist organizations.
He's an anti-Semite.
I don't think he had a role in this administration, but the idea is that Trump's only unhappy because he's making him look bad, not because of the ideology he brings to the administration.
The reality is, is he going to go anywhere?
Let's see.
We should note a couple of things.
We've already done this.
We had our hit list.
We've been right on every one of them.
And they've all gone away, including Monica Crowley, Kellyanne Conway, Jeff Sessions they couldn't get rid of, but Flynn.
The two that are right under the gun right now are Banyan, as I call him, and Sweaty Sean.
Yes.
They're going to get rid of both of these guys.
They're going to make a mountain out of every molehill.
Whatever they do, I think you proved it.
They're just making a mountain out of a molehill, although nobody listens to CNN. We have to realize that much, but still.
Yes.
The media does.
The media does.
Yes.
And it's really ingenious in that people I know who are friends of mine who are big Trump supporters, they're texting me, Spicer's gotta go!
This guy sucks!
He's gotta go!
Yeah.
I'm looking at you dude named Ben.
Yeah.
So they're actually playing right into their hands.
Spicer's, you know what the problem with Spicer is?
It's really simple.
This is why you get guys like in the Obama administration, Obama himself, of course, president, and Josh Earnest taking all those long pauses to say something that won't get him in trouble.
Yeah, and the guy before him were unbelievably, there were unbelievable pauses.
Jay Carney needed time.
To collect his words and thoughts so he did not g-g-g-gath.
That's exactly it.
By the way, thank you, Void Zero.
Everyone who was reporting on the Anne Frank Center did not speak to the Anne Frank Center guy himself.
They just read his tweet.
I got the tweet right here.
Yeah, read it.
Must fire...
Here.
At POTUS, at Real Donald Trump.
Must fire Sean Spicer now for engaging in Holocaust denial.
Our statement below.
Hashtag anti-Semitism.
Hashtag never again.
Breaking news.
Sean Spicer denies Hitler gas Jews during the Holocaust.
Mr.
President, fire Sean Spicer now.
And then it goes on.
There's no evidence of any of this.
Actually, this is interesting.
They all took his press release.
In his afternoon press briefing, Sean Spicer invoked Adolf Hitler in describing Syrian President Assad.
Spicer said, quote, even Hitler didn't sink to using chemical weapons, unquote.
Reaction of Stephen Goldstein, Executive Director of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect, colon, quote, On Passover, no less, Sean Spicer has engaged in Holocaust denial.
Remember, that's what Cuomo said verbatim, as if he made it up.
The most offensive form of fake news imaginable.
Sean Spicer has engaged in Holocaust denial by denying Hitler gassed millions of Jews to death.
Spicer's statement is the most evil slur upon a group of people we have ever heard from a White House press secretary.
Sean Spicer now lacks the integrity to serve as White House press secretary and President Trump must fire him at once!
Hashtag anti-Semitism.
Hashtag never again.
Last clip in the block.
Let's hear from Jason.
Before you go any further, I want to mention something that people I don't think generally know.
And...
And it relates again to the earlier clip and it relates to that press release you just read, which is the same thing that they said on CNN word for word.
It's not plagiarism or considered plagiarism when you're taking a press release and kind of recycling it mostly verbatim.
Okay.
And so you run into this.
That's why it's the easiest way to find everyone who's gotten the press releases.
You could take that little quote at the end where it says, it's disgraceful, whatever that nasty comment was, the worst thing ever come out of the White House, and just take a snippet of that, put it in Google, and you'll find like 10 or 20,000 versions of it all over the place, quoting that guy, obviously, because they're out to get Spicer.
And they'll have bylines.
This is a horrible situation that we're in.
But this fits all into the opening of the show.
This is the APL version of the CPI. Right.
Yeah, this is our version.
Well, let's listen to one last one again, this guy Jason Johnson.
Now he's on MSNBC, he's at home base, so he feels he can really let her rip.
The Trump supporters are really split.
I mean, you have his far-right and alt-right and sort of neo-Nazi supporters who said this is terrible and he's getting into the sort of Globocop thing that he wouldn't do.
Globocop.
This is good.
I'll play that again.
GloboCop.
The Trump supporters are really split.
I mean, you have his far-right and alt-right and sort of neo-Nazi supporters who said this is terrible and he's getting into the sort of GloboCop thing that he wouldn't do.
You have some mainline Republicans who think it's great.
I've always had a problem with Steve Bannon.
I think the president should be able to pick who they want, but he's a white nationalist.
He sympathizes with white nationalist terrorists.
He's a bigot, and I don't think that has a healthy role in anyone who's going to be president of the United States, regardless of if he won the popular vote or not.
I think even if Steve Bannon were to leave tomorrow, if he were to pack up his bags and go back to Breitbart or wherever else it is that alt-right people go on their spare time, I don't think it would fundamentally change some of the attitudes.
We're still going to have a president who wants a travel ban.
You're still going to have a president who ignores attacks on Muslim-Americans and African-American citizens by white nationalists.
So Steve Bannon is a symbol, but I don't think he changes the office culture, even if he somehow was removed from that position.
All right, Jason Johnson, Tim Carter.
I love how he says all that, and the host just goes, all right, Jason Johnson, thanks, great.
Great little rap you did.
Totally, it's very funny.
That was great, man.
Welcome to Modern Broadcasting.
Yes, well, that was great.
You just called everyone a fucking Jew hater.
That was great.
Awesome.
Up next...
So play my Bannon clip and see if it fits in with what you're doing there.
The president's chief strategist, Steve Bannon, took a seat in the front row of Mr.
Trump's news conference today.
But sources close to the president say Bannon's role in Mr.
Trump's inner circle is in jeopardy.
There's a new political order that's being formed out of this.
Clashes with Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior advisor, have angered Mr.
Trump, as was evident in an interview yesterday with the New York Post.
Steve is a good guy, but I told them to straighten it out, or I will, the president said, after ordering a Bannon-Kushner truce late last week.
The president also tried to minimize Bannon's influence.
I like Steve, but you have to remember, he was not involved in my campaign until very late, Mr.
Trump said.
I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn't know Steve.
I'm my own strategist.
And where was that from?
Who made that?
CBS. CBS does a really good job, and I have a four-parter coming up showing nothing but, to me, fake news.
And I think this was fake news, too.
It's a concerted effort by all the big media companies They want their...
I don't know what it is, why they hate these guys so much, but once they take a dislike to you, you're pretty...
You're done.
You're done.
MTV still doesn't talk to me.
That's right.
They wouldn't even invite you to their anniversary.
Ever.
Nothing.
I'm happy to be in the MTV Alumni Facebook group.
I'm surprised you weren't booted.
Well, it's only...
Just a matter of time.
Yeah, I know.
I'm very quiet.
Very quiet.
Once the big media takes a dislike to you, I mean, all we're doing on our show is just kind of like pointing it out, but once they take a dislike to you at that level, if you're in amongst them, you never gain favor.
You have to do all kinds of penance that is just strange.
You've got to completely disappear and then come back and beg for mercy and, you know, There's a lot to review here.
And I have a couple of Syria clips I'd like to get in before the break.
Just some general stuff about the attack.
To me...
I mean, I'm still thinking this was a grand scheme, a great setup.
We know that part of it was trying to get Sweaty Sean to discredit Putin.
A lot of that, just a lot.
And we had Rex Tillerson in a meeting with Putin, made him wait.
Oh, man.
The cojones, huh?
Rex.
Well, there was a rumor that first came up, which was that Putin didn't want to meet with him.
Well, I don't know.
Who the hell knows, obviously.
Well, that was nonsense.
I think they're just putting false information into the stream.
We don't even know if the delay was much of anything.
If we really look at everything, based on this one thing, Trump is, I think he's actually, there's a lot of interesting stuff.
He has gone, we know, and we've discussed this during the debates, the way he negotiates is he says, I want everything!
That was actually a pretty good voice.
And then everyone gets pissed off and mad and all emotional and then he says, well, I'll take 60%.
I'll take 55%.
Okay, I'll take 53%.
This is how he negotiates.
So going all the way with everything.
Janet Yellen.
I'm not going to re-elect her.
Well, maybe I'll let her stay on.
I'll see how it's going.
What else do we have?
No, seriously.
Seriously.
Yeah, I've noticed this, too.
This is very interesting to me.
But this is what gives him the reputation of being a liar.
Like...
Yes, well, correct.
But you know what?
I've negotiated with some really good negotiators, and all I felt was, man, that guy fucked me.
I didn't think about the lying part.
I didn't lie enough myself.
Who gives a crap?
This is the guy to lie, if you want someone.
Yeah, NATO. Bah, screw NATO! We're not going to do anything!
They're obsolete!
No way!
It's never going to happen!
Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah!
I'll start with that, actually.
Here he is with Jens Stoltenberg.
The Secretary General and I agree that other member nations must satisfy their responsibility to contribute 2% of GDP to defense.
If other countries pay their fair share instead of relying on the United States to make up the difference, we will all be much more secure and our partnership will be made that much stronger.
The Secretary General and I had a productive discussion about what more NATO can do in the fight against terrorism.
I complained about that a long time ago and they made a change.
And now they do fight terrorism.
I said it was obsolete.
It's no longer obsolete.
It's my hope that NATO will take on an increased role in supporting Our Iraqi partners in their battle against ISIS. And when he said that, Jens Stoltenberg, who was the general supreme leader, commander of NATO. He's the secretary general.
Yeah, his face lit up.
He could not stop.
Yeah, because all of free money.
Now you introduce a clip that I have to take a sidetrack on, because this is my takedown of CBS. Let's do it, bro.
That clip was key to this report.
Which is very interesting.
The clip is called Take Down One Awkward Moment.
There was an awkward moment today in the news conference with the NATO Secretary General when Mr.
Trump claimed that NATO was fighting terrorism only after Mr.
Trump's recent complaints.
They made a change, the President said.
Now they do fight terrorism.
Well, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg responded, With a history lesson, reminding Mr.
Trump of NATO's 16 years fighting Al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan at a cost, the Secretary General said, of more than 1,000 lives.
All right, now he presents this as though Trump is making this comment that you just played.
That clip that you just played was what they're talking about.
And then he got a history lesson because he's full of crap about them changing course and fighting terrorism and all the rest of it.
So I went to listen to what he said because this doesn't sound quite right because I don't imagine somebody turning on Trump and giving him a history lesson and shaking their finger at him as it was implied in that clip by Scott Pelley, who had no backup clips to prove any of it.
Of course not.
So now here's the part about...
This is part two.
This is Stoltenberg discussing their helping...
Them, the United States in Afghanistan.
And it wasn't about terrorism.
He never mentions the word terrorism.
There's nothing about terrorism whatsoever.
It was about helping us during our moment of need after 9-11.
And it was very calm and very passive in a funny way.
It wasn't a history lesson.
It was part of the two of these guys giving their long lectures.
There's long, boring lectures at the podiums.
So let's listen to this.
And this is what...
Pelley is calling a history lesson, reminding him we've always been fighting terrorism.
In a predictable world, it is important to have friends and allies.
And in NATO, America has the best friends and the best allies in the world.
Together, we represent half of the world's economic and military power.
No other superpower has ever had such a strategic advantage.
This makes the United States stronger and safer.
We saw that after the 9-11 attacks on the United States.
That was the first time NATO invoked our Article 5, the Collective Defence Clause.
Allies sent AWACS surveillance planes to help patrol American skies.
And we launched NATO's biggest military operation ever in Afghanistan.
Hundreds of thousands of Europeans and Canadian soldiers have served shoulder to shoulder with American troops.
More than a thousand have paid the ultimate price.
Earlier today, I laid a wreath at Arlington National Cemetery in tribute to the fallen.
Now, this was, according to Pelley, the lecture.
In fact, it was a...
Kind of a camaraderie speech.
It had nothing to do with terrorism or what Pelley said.
It's like we're all together.
We all hang together.
We've got each other's back.
We're all good buddies, but you listen to Pelley now as he was like shaking his finger at him.
No, not at all.
And to kind of back up that, listen to the take down NATO part three where he actually mentions that, yes, Trump kind of turned us on to this terrorism thing and maybe we're going to do a better job of fighting it.
Part one.
One.
It's called the CPI. Yeah.
Yeah, you're right, he says.
Yes, you're right.
This is not quite the way Pelley presented it.
The way Pelley presented it was fake news.
And let's play part four where he again reiterates the fact that Trump and NATO is now kind of focusing a little more on terrorism.
But we agreed today, you and I, that NATO can and must do more in the global fight against terrorism.
In the fight against terrorism, training local forces is one of the best weapons we have.
NATO has the experience, the expertise, and the staying power to make a real difference.
Well, sounds like he got the riot act read to him.
How does that even remotely resemble what Peli claimed?
This is kind of like, you know, the way the web works.
You read the headline.
Okay.
Hey, did you see that?
Hey, did you see what Pelley said?
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yes, people don't care.
We're headline readers.
I wonder whether Pelley knew that he was delivering fake news.
He probably never even saw the package.
Well, there was no package.
It was just his read.
It was just a straight read right off the prompter.
There you go.
So he was reading.
Yeah, he had no idea.
Oh, geez.
As an aside...
Surprise, surprise, it's show day.
The U.S. military dropped a Moab 21,500 pound bomb in Afghanistan.
Target was an ISIS tunnel and cave complex.
Wow.
Harkins back to 2002.
I think, yeah, 2001, 2002.
Yeah.
Another fractal.
Yeah, remember they were, here's a funny thing, do you remember when this, after the 9-11 attacks, there was a, all these magazines, Time, and they had these pictures that they, I wish I could, somebody must have kept some of these.
They had drawings of the underground tunnels, and they had, like, factories underground.
They had shipping departments.
They had bomb manufacturing places.
They had underground airports for all practical purposes.
You're looking at this and go, holy crap!
And there was lots of talk about Buster.
Oh, they're too deep to blow up.
You can't hit them with anything.
Yeah, we're going to smoke them out.
We're going to smoke them out.
Smoke them out.
Smoke them out.
It was unbelievable, the bull crap.
Well...
Here we are again.
Interesting.
I think yet again, you watch, I think Trump is going to be heralded for this.
Remember that Americans, we're bloodthirsty, man.
Even the Democrats.
It sure seems so.
All dimensions.
All dimensions were bloodthirsty.
Now, maybe we should take a break, because I do want to get into the idea, which Deutsche Welle actually mentions, and also our TRT, obviously, that the whole thing...
This whole thing with the attack, this crappy attack on Syria that didn't even damage the runways, but they sent 60 missiles, 59 that actually took off.
You know, that's disputable.
I'll wait until after the break if you want, but...
What's disputable?
It was 59 missiles and all 59 made their target.
Yeah.
Do you ever see the map that they show, the overhead map of where they hit?
They only show about six places.
Bombed here, bombed there.
Do you want to hear my proof?
Do you want to hear my proof?
So you think all 59 got to hit the target?
No, I don't say I think that.
I think that is what the president says.
Now, you told me, and I was surprised, you said it was 60, but one rolled off the boat.
Well, it was a dud.
It went off and didn't take it.
Splashed in the drink.
Oh, shoot, man.
Oh, well.
Yeah, where'd it go?
It's over on the side.
Well, let's get away from it in case it blows.
I was sitting at the table.
We had finished dinner.
We're now having dessert.
Now, he's talking about when he gave the order.
He was at Mar-a-Lago with a Chinese president whose pronoun is Zee, I'm reliably informed.
And they were having a beautiful, beautiful chocolate cake.
This guy loves food, let me tell you that.
I was sitting at the table.
We had finished dinner.
We're now having dessert.
And we had the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you've ever seen.
The best chocolate cake imaginable.
This was the best chocolate cake anyone could have.
I'm making chocolate cake great again.
I don't care what you say.
President Xi was enjoying it.
And I was given the message from the generals that the ships are locked and loaded.
What do you do?
And we made a determination to do it.
So the missiles were on the way.
And I said, Mr.
President, let me explain something to you.
This is during dessert.
We've just fired 59 missiles, all of which hit, by the way, unbelievable, from hundreds of miles away.
Okay, okay, you win.
It does get a little better if you're interested in the rest of it.
Yeah, no, play on.
All of which hit.
Unmanned.
It's brilliant.
It's so incredible.
It's brilliant.
It's genius.
Our technology, our equipment is better than anybody by a factor of five.
I mean, what we have in terms of technology.
Factor of five.
We're 500% better than you.
I don't care.
Our technology.
Our technology of killing people is the best.
Nobody can even come close to competing.
You want to kill somebody?
Call us.
Now, we're going to start getting it because, you know, the military has been cut back and depleted so badly.
Now, this is so dumb.
He should not do this.
A little advice, Mr.
President.
Don't try to slip in all your little talking points all the time.
Because it sounds dumb.
This is great, but we're going to get competition because we're getting it.
Let me roll it back.
You can't go.
You're right.
I think that's a huge mistake that there was a tactical error.
You can't go.
We're the best at this.
We're the best at this.
We're 5x better than anybody else.
But we suck.
Yeah, exactly.
Does that make sense?
Well, no, it's dumb.
It's dumb.
Nobody can even come close to competing.
Now, we're going to start getting it because, you know, the military has been cut back and depleted so badly by the past administration and by the war in Iraq, which was another disaster.
So what happens, as I said, we've just launched 15...
I think he uses that kind of shit, and I'll call it that, as a thinking space.
You know, because he said this so many times, and you know how this works.
This is why we say dumb things as well.
You know, fact of the matter, end of the day, of course, all these things.
Yeah, but we try to break the habit.
He does nothing to do that.
He has the wrong people around him.
Curry Dvorak for the White House.
Nine missiles heading to Iraq.
Well, headed to Syria.
Now, this was the mother of all fuck-ups.
I'm sorry, I'm cursing.
It's the Tourette's.
I'll stop.
Listen to what he says here.
This is really bad.
Missiles.
I'm back a little bit more.
I'm sorry.
Here we go.
As I said, we've just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq.
Well, headed to Syria.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Does the truth want to come out?
Remember, we know there's an incredible buildup of troops in Kuwait City right now.
Do you think that he means Iraq?
How about this for an idea?
We've heard all the analysis of the only 24 missiles made it.
Maybe the other 25 were sent to Iraq.
Very possible.
Very possible.
These were the duds.
I'd be 35.
It'd be 35.
My numbers are wrong.
It's 24 to Syria to blow up a few things around the airport and then 35 to blow up who knows what in Iraq.
Nobody's going to report on it because there's no reporting at all going on.
What happens, as I said, we've just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq.
Well, headed to Syria.
Yes.
Thanks, Maria.
Heading toward Syria.
And I want you to know that.
Because I didn't want him to go home.
We're almost finished.
Wow, you hear that little NLP thing there?
I want you to know that.
What does he want us to know?
Iraq or Syria?
He was saying that that's what he said to the Chinese guy.
And I want you to know that.
Because I didn't want him to go home.
We're almost finished.
It was a full day in Palm Beach.
We're almost finished.
We went shopping.
We had facials.
And what does he do?
Finish his dessert and go home.
And then they say, you know, the guy you just had dinner with just attacked.
How does he react?
So he paused for 10 seconds.
And then he asked the interpreter to please say it again.
I didn't think that was a good sign.
In other words, it was, what?
What?
I think that's exactly what happened.
The guy's like, what did he just say?
Don't laugh.
Ten seconds.
And then he asked the interpreter to please say it again.
I didn't think that was a good sign.
And he said to me, anybody that uses gases...
You could almost say, or anything else.
But anybody that was so brutal and uses gases to do that to young children...
Children, babies, babies, babies, babies.
It's okay.
He agreed.
He was okay with it.
He was okay with it.
Fabulous piece of work.
I think Maria Bartiromo deserves a Peabody.
Really good.
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Yowza, yowza, yowza, yowza.
So let's listen to a couple of things from RT, which is their take on the gas attacks and all the rest of it.
I have two clips and then a follow-up clip.
Which kind of confirms what RT says.
And that follow-up clip comes from Deutsche Welle.
As long as you get out of the United States, out of our news.
You get some different news, don't you?
You get different news.
Let's play Gas Attack Untold Stories.
These are stories that weren't discussed by the mainstream media in this country.
The White House has also released a declassified report on the Idlib chemical attack.
It blames Damascus for orchestrating the assault and accuses Moscow of covering up for the Syrian government.
However, the four-page document says that U.S. cannot publicly release all available intelligence information used to make the assessment while relying on, quote, open-source accounts and broadcasted local videos.
The report comes, as the United Nations says, a joint investigation by the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons will only begin after the Chemical Weapons Watchdog confirms an attack took place.
The mission of the OPCW began looking into the incidents, into the incidents that we, the horrific incidents that we saw.
They are going on their work.
The way this works is that once they're able to confirm that they've been the use of chemical weapons, then the joint UN-OPCW, joint investigative mechanism, kicks in.
Now, when's the last time our mainstream media even discussed the OPCW, which is the linchpin for the whole gassing of anything?
Never.
Let's play part two.
Moscow has also stressed the importance of the UN probe into the attack.
A former Pentagon official, Michael Maloof, has questioned the report released by the White House as it fails to show what information actually supports the assessment.
It's only an assessment.
It's based upon, they say, intelligence.
But once again, the intelligence itself remains classified, and we have no idea what the certainty of that information is or what the sourcing of it is.
It reminds me all over again of 2003 when I was at the Pentagon and we heard then CIA Director George Tenet telling President Bush the evidence was a slam dunk about Iraq's WMD. And of course there's politics behind all of these assessments right now and we've seen this because we have the deep state or the intelligence community really having an axe to grind against Russia and it has reignited the whole notion of Overthrow,
where President Trump himself made the statement, no regime change during the campaign.
Earlier we spoke to Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff, to U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell.
In 2003 he was responsible for reviewing CIA information used to prepare Powell for his Security Council's speech on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
Mr.
Wilkerson told us he believes the US assessment on the alleged Idlib chemical attack is simply politically motivated.
The government has jumped to conclusions with regard to the providence of that particular attack.
And let me add that I think I know their motivation for having done so.
It was domestic.
They wanted to get the whole Russia issue, if you will, off the domestic agenda, and they succeeded majorly in doing that.
Absolutely.
And this really doesn't harken back to 2003.
This harkens back to Bill Clinton with the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
He pushed that down on the level of importance by bombing Serbia or starting that war in the Balkans.
That's what you do.
And so this is an old play.
In fact, Putin said something to that.
I have it here.
Oh, would you like me to do the voice?
Because I can speak Russian these days, so I'll do that.
There was no translator, but they had a subtitle.
Yes.
This is boring, ladies.
We have all seen this before.
It is like with Iraq, with the many chemical weapons of mass destruction.
We have seen this before, ladies.
That's what he said.
Yeah, he was very poorly done, but not you, but Putin could have been funnier.
But he said this is the old script.
Now I have this DW kicker to the idea that the attack was to change the topic rather than to have anything to do with anything.
And this is Deutsche Welle.
And this is just listening to them.
can see that the topic has been changed.
Well, it's certainly not great, especially considering this bromance that that Maya mentioned.
Trump mania is certainly over.
And yesterday, Putin said that that the level of trust with the Obama administration was much higher than with the Trump administration.
So pretty harsh words there.
But the message that that was kind of brought across that came across today was kind of one of really emphasizing communication, keeping dialogue open, bridging differences.
So we'll see what happens.
The interesting fact as well, this week, there's going to be a meeting towards the end of the week between the Russian foreign minister, the Syrian foreign minister, and the Iranian foreign minister.
So that's kind of defying the ultimatum that Tillerson set between deciding between Russia's allies there and the West.
So we'll see whether that kind of worsens the tensions.
And there was another piece to this.
Which was China.
I mean, come on.
It's so obvious.
China and then North Korea.
And Trump is on a tear.
He knows what he's doing.
I'm telling you, he knows what he's doing.
You may not like it.
You may not like it.
I certainly don't like it all.
Tillerson, also, you know, who's playing this game, he also does the worst, we're the worst relations ever.
Now, I'm wondering if when he had his two-hour meeting with Putin that was completely private, I guess, except for a translator, I suppose.
Yeah, yeah.
Whether or not they talked about this and saying, here's what we have to do.
We're in deep trouble for being like, you know, trying to hook up with you guys and maybe make a peaceful world because the public doesn't like it, the media doesn't like it, nobody likes it, and they're just hounding us and it makes it look like it's not working.
This is not working.
We have to do a kind of a strategy that's a distraction of the week.
This is not exactly what I said on the last show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
But this is just proof.
You were just surmising.
I'm from the future.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, well.
But all of that that you just said was preceded by, yo, Broseph, listen up.
Because they have bromance.
I'm sure Tillerson was talking to Putin.
He says, don't worry.
Don't worry.
Mr.
Trump and you can still have sex, but it'll be sometime probably after this blows over.
Well, no, no.
He says, don't worry.
Don't worry.
You get to lay your pipe, big boy.
That's what it was.
Don't worry.
Your pipeline is good.
You're good to go.
No worries.
You just take care of the Turks.
In fact, that's exactly, that's probably exactly what went on.
Yeah.
Because there is, and then they come out with this dour face, and then Lavrov, Lavrov is one of those guys who wears his emotions on his shoulder, and he's not, and he didn't, he seemed like he was acting.
Isn't the phrase on his sleeve?
Yes.
Another phrase from the chaise.
Another phrase from the chaise.
Where does that come from?
Who knows?
That's another dumb phrase.
We're going to have a book out on this.
Well, we won't do anything until someone gives us a phrase from the Shays jingle.
That's the only way things become a phrase from the Shays people.
Come on, we need it.
I'm just going to finish with this.
This whole thing is just bull crap.
I have Tillerson.
You said it.
Well, it's not bull crap.
It's finely tuned bull crap.
Look, Democrats were saying, oh, Trump's not that bad.
Oh, okay.
He did something good.
The Democrats are idiots.
He's back.
He's Globocop again.
Good.
We like that.
That's what we want.
We want to have nice, no nations, no borders, all of that.
Here's Tillerson on Face the Press or Meet the Nation, whatever that show is called.
Is it a priority of U.S. policy to get him out of power?
Our priority in Syria, John, really hasn't changed.
I think the president's been quite clear.
First and foremost, we must defeat ISIS. And I would say that the military progress, both in Syria and in Iraq, has been remarkable since President Trump's inauguration.
Continue to liberate areas.
We are making tremendous progress in liberating Mosul in Iraq, working with coalition forces, working with allies, and we're moving to position to liberate Raqqa and to continue to contain ISIS and the threat that ISIS really does present to the homeland and to other homelands of allies around the world.
So in terms of President Assad, you had said that there has been no change in policy as a result of this attack.
So it is still true then that his fate is to be determined, as you said previously, by the Syrian people.
Yes, John.
I think, you know, obviously the United States' own founding principles are self-determination.
And I think what the United States and our allies want to do is to enable Thank you.
I think what we're hopeful is through this Syrian process, working with coalition members, working with the UN, and in particular working through the Geneva process, that we can navigate a political outcome in which the Syrian people, in fact, will determine Bashar al-Assad's fate and his legitimacy.
And I think the question of how his criminal actions are dealt with is something that will be part of that process.
I'm going to say it right now.
He's a dead man.
He's a dead man, and the Russians are going to kill him.
We may not know Bashar al-Assad.
He's a dead man.
I would have to say, yes, you're right.
He's a dead man, and the Russians will have to kill him.
And it'll be something...
It'll be, I think it'll be a fake terrorist bomber, a guy with a vest on or something that blows up the office and kills him.
And he probably won't kill him, and they'll have to come in and shoot him in the head, but that won't be part of the story.
Now, Lindsey Graham...
In fact, maybe that two-hour discussion was about how are we going to kill this guy.
That's the kind of cold-bloodedness we're talking about with some of these people.
Do we use the umbrella with the pin, or what do we do?
The pricker.
The pricker.
We use the pricker.
We can get close to him.
Probably the pricker won't kill you, right?
No, the pricker gets you later.
You get sick first.
It's very, very effective.
Lindsey Graham heard all of this and thought something really different.
He thought, Woo!
Woo!
ISIS over Assad.
Both Secretary Tillerson and Ambassador Haley have indicated ISIS is still the priority.
What say you, Senator?
I think ISIS should beat Germany and Assad should beat Japan, like World War II analogies here.
Accelerate the demise of ISIL, their direct threat to the homeland.
Assad's not.
But I've never been more encouraged by the Trump administration than I am today.
Ambassador Haley just said on your program, you'll never end the war with Assad in power.
So that means regime change is now the policy of the Trump administration.
That's at least what I've heard.
So you need more American troops to accelerate the demise of ISIL. We're relying too much on the Kurds.
More American forces, five or six thousand.
We're to trap regional fighters to destroy ISIL. You need a safe haven quickly so people can regroup inside of Syria.
Then you train the opposition to go after Assad.
That's how he's taken out by his own people with our efforts.
And you tell the Russians, if you continue to bomb the people we train, we'll shoot you down.
I think that's exactly the plan.
That's exactly the plan.
They're going to train some rebels, John, like you just said.
And they're going to take them.
The rebels will take them out.
The rebels will take them out.
And then Rush will be like, okay, no-fly zone, fine.
We're going to start building that pipeline.
You watch.
The no-fly zone will be nowhere near Holmes or Aleppo.
I mean, sorry, Aleppo, Holmes.
I think Holmes, is Holmes above Aleppo or Aleppo above Holmes?
No, I can't remember.
I don't remember.
I think Holmes is higher.
Maybe not.
Well, no, maybe Aleppo.
I can't remember.
Well, there will be no...
Pull down your map.
Oh, gosh, you're right.
We have a big giant map in front of us at all times.
And then a huge head of Woodrow Wilson.
My big map of Syria is on the wall.
Let me take a look for you.
Here we go to the Googles and we have...
I need to zoom in.
This Lindsey Graham guy just bothers me to no end.
Aleppo is higher.
But wait.
No, no.
It has to be...
No, it's Holmes because it would go through Holmes to the port in TARDIS. I think that's how they wanted it.
Unless they wanted to bring it all the way up north, but I doubt that.
So I'm pretty sure it's supposed to go straight across.
It's usually available, this information, on various websites.
They're not political.
They talk about where these pipelines are.
There was some other news about Lindsey Graham that was very interesting.
That he's gay?
No, but he...
Well, kind of.
Listen to this.
This is Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg...
Let's hope members of Congress, the members that Allegheny College has already honored, Vice President Joe Biden and Senator John McCain, the women of the Senate, Senators Dianne Feinstein and Lindsey Graham.
Nice.
I don't know if you could barely hear that, but I did catch the punchline.
The women of the Senate, including Dianne Feinstein and Lindsey Graham, who she, you know, I think this woman is so senile, this Ginsburg, that she saw the name Lindsey and assumed it was a woman.
Now, I must confess to something.
I gotta confess.
I have made a very similar mistake.
And I wish I could, I actually looked for this.
This is really bad.
I was interviewing...
Fleetwood Mac was in the studio one time, and there wasn't a complete reunion, but it was Mick Fleetwood.
It was just Mick Fleetwood, right?
He had some song out.
It was a crazy drum song, of course.
And I was saying, hey, you guys ever going to get back together?
I mean, what did the girls think?
You know, like Lindsey and Chrissy McVie.
And he went, really?
Because, of course, Lindsey Buckingham is a guy.
And I did the exact same thing.
But I'm not...
You recovered.
I'm not senile.
I thought that was just a great piece.
It was very funny.
Very, very embarrassing.
Say that.
Okay.
I had one more...
Before we get on that topic, I do have one last clip, which is the Major Garrett rap.
This is a rap with a zinger.
The president said today the world is nasty and a mess.
He could have been describing turmoil here at the White House.
Nevertheless, Scott, the president remains confident, declaring by the time he is finished, the world will be a better place to live.
So they like this.
They'll talk about something like the mess.
Oh, it's a mess at the White House.
You know, this rumor, big battle going on.
And then they ridicule him with a compliment.
CBS can do this, and they do it well.
They ridicule you with a compliment.
Yes.
Just sticking with this Maria Bartiromo interview on Fox Business was pretty good.
And, of course, we had some more messages going out, particularly towards China.
And I think this is another fabulous strategy.
China, your currency manipulators.
Oh, well, no, I'm not going to call them currency manipulators anymore.
And I kind of...
But I don't know if they're still manipulating it.
Everything seems to be so broken there.
I don't know if they're...
They're probably not trying to press it down.
They're trying to keep it up.
It appears that...
Yes, that's what they're trying to do.
It appears as if the international currency traders are now...
It's responsible for where that thing's sitting.
And it's not really being manipulated like it was, I'd say, five to ten years ago.
In addition to that, you know, like, hey, you know, we're going to make Putin look bad here for a moment.
It might be handy for you.
I don't know how you're feeling about that.
Would you like some more chocolate cake?
It's a beautiful cake.
There's babies in here.
Best ever.
There's babies in this cake.
It's so great.
It's like baby, baby, angel food baby cake.
Little babies.
Oh yeah, and if you don't take care of North Korea, we're going to take care of it.
That's what's going to happen.
What are we doing right now in terms of North Korea?
You never know, do you?
You never know.
That's all you're going to say.
Beautiful.
That is such a departure from anything I've heard in my lifetime.
I don't know.
You never know what I'm going to do.
Talk about the military.
I'm not like Obama where they talk about in four months we're raiding, we're going to hit Mosul.
And in the meantime, they get ready and like you never saw.
Look, they're still fighting.
Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they've been fighting it for many months and so many more people died.
I don't want to talk about it.
We are sending an armada.
Very powerful.
We have...
We're sending an armada.
Very powerful.
This has cost millions of dollars to do all this.
The guy's wasting our money.
No, I think he's doing a very smart thing.
He's saying, you know, and we are mobilizing.
We're mobilizing everybody.
We got to...
Well, listen.
I don't want to talk about it.
We are sending...
And Armada.
Very powerful.
We have submarines.
We have submarines.
See, what you say is we have submarines.
You don't actually have to send the submarines to say we've got submarines.
That's what I do.
You don't have to send anything.
You just give them some B-roll from the Department of Propaganda and the Pentagon, and who knows?
These ships could all be in port for all we know, really.
You know, he should have a DJ next to him.
The president.
I'll explain what I mean.
Here we go.
We are sending an armada.
Very powerful.
We have submarines.
Very powerful.
Far more powerful.
In fact, during this entire interview, it was a split screen, box on the left with the president talking, box on the right with our beautiful missiles.
And the aircraft carrier, that I can tell you.
And we have the best military people on Earth.
And I will say this.
He is doing the wrong thing.
Do you think he's mentally fit?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know him.
But he's doing the wrong thing.
That was a good answer.
He would never say that.
And now China is making moves.
They're moving troops toward the border.
They're no longer importing their coal.
I give him credit for that.
I give him credit.
I give him credit.
Because nobody else has gotten China to do crap.
That's not true.
That's not true.
The Dutch made China do crap.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah?
Oh yeah.
This is news to me.
This obviously did not make CBS. You better believe it.
This is why you listen to the No Agenda show.
Two spies from China arrived at Schiphol Airport yesterday in the Netherlands.
Two spies and people came out to see him.
Panda fever has gripped the Netherlands after two arrived at Schiphol Airport on their way to a specially constructed enclosure at a Dutch zoo.
Children wearing pants.
Panda hats welcomed them and waved bamboo branches, the panda's staple food.
It's taken 16 years of hard lobbying to obtain the animals who will be housed in a zoo complex named Pandasia.
See, you send us your spies, we lock them up and we ridicule them and we taunt them with bamboo sticks.
Those are panda bears.
Yes.
So they got a couple pandas.
That actually takes a lot of work.
Yeah.
Chinese dole out those pandas.
A better trade deal, you can get a panda for your zoo and everyone goes nuts when the things show up.
I know.
Hey, want to take a little ride?
Where are we going?
Are you ready?
Let's go to the alternate universe, John.
Come on.
Okay, one more time.
I'm not going to keep doing this.
At first, my leg.
Here we go.
Ready.
First.
We choose God.
Fuck you.
Oh, God.
That was a tough one.
At least you brought the dog.
I'm queasy.
Queasy after that one.
All right, what do you got for me?
Two ones.
I got Chris Matthews, who cannot get off of the comparisons of, you know, the Trump children to Saddam Hussein's children.
But he has another one that he's kind of on.
He's obsessed.
He's obsessed.
He's a madman.
He's obsessed.
Yeah, well, something else he's mentioned, which is now coming back, is a comparison to the Romanovs.
We've heard him say this a couple of times.
Now, tell me about that.
What do you know about the Romanovs, you being our resident?
The Romanovs?
Yes.
I heard they had a good recipe for spaghetti.
So with that good recipe for spaghetti, here's Chris Matthews on MSNBC. Let's go to Ann on this question.
Ann, it seems to me that there's always an element of almost Romanov absurdity, royal family absurdity with the Trumps.
Now, it's like it is the Romanovs.
The real advisors to this president, he's saying, are the family.
And they weren't elected.
Anyways, it is a royal family.
Anyway, we're seeing this.
We know what happened to the Romanovs.
Anyway, John.
Say it again.
Yeah, what happened to the Romanovs, John?
Went to Romanovs, butchered by the...
They were all killed, yes.
They were killed by the people.
Yeah, they were killed during the revolution in Russia?
Yeah.
Advises to this president, he's saying, are the family.
And they weren't elected.
Anyways, it is a royal family.
Anyway, we're seeing this.
We know what happened to the Romanovs.
Thanks, Chris.
What is he advocating?
The butchery of the American president and the family?
His family?
Family first.
An elected president, by the way?
Yes, family first.
Family first.
How many people in the White House are part of the family?
Because the Roman House is a big family.
In the White House?
Well, extended family is Jared Kushner and Ivanka.
And there's...
What's her name?
Melania.
Melania.
Yeah, Melania.
And Barron.
Oh, right.
Yeah, that's it.
Okay, let's go back.
I never heard a Romanov reference to Obama.
Who in the family was in Obama's household?
His wife.
His wife's mother.
His mother-in-law.
Yeah, his mother-in-law.
That's pretty odd.
And the two kids.
His handler, Valerie Jarrett.
Yeah, but she wasn't family, although she kind of is.
She lives in their house now.
Might as well.
Yeah, lives in their house.
Okay, we can call her family.
So we have her, Obama, Michelle, the two kids, and then the mother was five or six people.
The father of the kids, Scottie Pippen and Stevie Wonder, they were there.
Now we go to the Morning Joes.
You want to talk about the alternate universe.
Yeah, these guys are out of control.
I'm glad you're watching it because I couldn't watch that show.
I think they're losing a lot of viewers.
The relevance factor has just gone way down.
They brought in Tina Brown.
What?
To comment on Trump.
The magazine editor?
What do they want her on for?
Well, because she's New York elite.
Oh, she is New York elite and she has a slight British accent.
Wow.
You really had...
By the way, I should ISO that.
That's pretty good.
Wow?
Yeah.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, I will.
Wow, you really had quite a summit.
Hillary Clinton on stage.
Justin Trudeau talking.
Yeah, Justin Trudeau was great, and Hillary was great.
The timeliness of what she said she would have done with Assad just hours before Donald Trump did the same thing.
Yeah, that was really remarkable.
I mean, she was so strong about bombing those airfields in Syria.
Oh, good question.
I felt she was like sending that message out loud and clear.
And I think that she was right about the misogyny piece.
I mean, she did talk about how when she left the State Department, she had a 64% approval rating.
But as soon as she began to run for office, she was turning into Typhoid Mary.
And she actually said kind of funnily, and it wasn't even fair for Typhoid Mary.
People always complain about Donald Trump being on this show.
Hillary Clinton, literally, we could have gotten, we seriously could have gotten John Lennon and Jesus on this show easier than we got Hillary Clinton.
She was the most buttoned-up candidate we've ever come across.
Tell Joe to shut up.
Tell Joe to shut up.
It was impossible to get her to be herself.
I think, you know, here's the thing.
In the debates, she was phenomenal.
But in interviews, she was always in a cracked position over those damn emails.
And the thing is that, in the end...
It's so frustrating.
I think it buttoned her up.
I think they made a mistake not putting her on those shows.
I think it was a huge mistake of the campaign not to unbutton her in that sense.
She was always that way.
Because she was constantly under attack for the emails, which was really, really, in the end, when you look back on it, insane.
Oh!
She was always that way.
Hillary's never been forthcoming.
That's why they said they had to humanize her.
Wow.
Actually, we can do this.
For some reason, we like to save to collect wows.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
That's really good.
Wow!
Wow.
Wow.
I am really high.
We got a lot of...
We could do a whole wow show.
We could.
We got to just get another three hours of them.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's take...
I got to get out of here.
Are you ready?
Can't stand here too long.
It hurts.
Hold on to the side, John.
If you feel nauseous, look at the ground and the spinning will go away.
Here we go!
First America! First America! First America!
Three, two, five!
Fuck you! Fuck you!
Wow.
Wow is right, Mika.
We're back.
These guys are nuts.
You didn't get anything.
I noticed when we were in the other dimension that you didn't have any view material.
No, there wasn't anything good enough.
That's the sad thing.
You gotta work so hard to get just a little bit.
Just a teeny bit.
I have a little Ask Adam action here.
Okay.
I'm gonna play a theme?
Well, usually I do that right after the clip.
Okay, well, it's actually two clips.
This is the peeve clips.
Now, I'm watching our local...
KQED restaurant review show.
And there was a Stanford professor that came on.
Was it my professor?
No.
It was just a vague Stanford professor who liked to use flowery words.
I mean, as soon as I hear anyone say the word succulent when they're referring to a cut of meat.
Succulent.
It was succulent.
When they say succulent, that's a trigger warning for me.
It's like, oh, this guy's a douche.
Succulent.
It's succulent and savory.
He used savory, too.
What is the actual...
But there was a word.
He slipped into these two clips, and you can hear the first one.
You try to figure out what it is.
But by the second, I want you to identify this word.
And I just, it just, I don't know, it just makes my skin crawl to listen to this guy talk.
Sorry about that.
By the way, succulent, full of juice.
My wife got one of the best dishes I've ever had in San Francisco, which is the beef bourguignon and the beef burgundy, which was just succulent pieces of meat, big pieces of potato and veg, and in a sauce that tasted almost like you just poured a bottle of wine right into the pot.
Trigger warning!
Yeah, I heard it.
I heard it.
I heard it.
Oh my gosh!
Can you see that juice?
Play it again.
Got one of the best dishes I've ever had in San Francisco, which is the beef bourguignon and the beef burgundy, which was just succulent pieces of meat, big pieces of potato and veg, and in a sauce that tasted almost like you had just poured a bottle of wine right into the pot.
It was absolutely savory.
Clip two is the second clip.
I think you already identified the word, but let's hear it again.
Trump in the entire city.
It comes with a house soup entree, which they decide for you, and then also a side salad, some veg, and also a dessert.
Yeah.
VEG!
you It would be funny if you said...
Yeah, it comes with veg.
It comes with veg.
You can easily mispronounce that, which I think is one of the things that makes me...
Get out of my vagina!
Yeah, veg.
Yeah, I got you.
Veg.
I got the joke.
I've heard...
Well, that's your Stanford professor.
That's what they say in Stanford.
They say veg.
Veg.
I wonder if he says sush.
Oh, yeah, we went and had some sush.
And then we went out for some french fries and veg.
But it was all delish.
It was delish and succulent.
I mean, come on!
I'm going to reintroduce succulent into my vocabulary.
Oh boy, it is so succulent, baby.
You should just do it.
You annoy your friends.
Yes.
Love me some succulents.
Beautiful.
Hey, let's do a little bit of social justice warrior stuff, shall we?
That sounds good.
Yeah, it's always fun.
Northern Arizona University.
The president of Northern Arizona University is in trouble.
Because she does not want to designate any safe spaces for the students on campus.
Oh, fire her.
Well, the students are calling for her resignation.
I have a clip, a local clip, which oddly seems to be voiced by one of the students themselves.
But it'll give you a little idea.
And just listen to, you know, what your Melenz.
Might as well start talking like that, shouldn't we?
Oh, yeah.
Melenz.
What the Melenz are there in Northern Arizona University.
Melenz.
Yeah, Melenz.
How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice?
I would say to you that as a university...
That's the president.
So that's the question first, and then town hall.
I think we figured that out.
How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice?
I would say to you that as a university professor...
Oh, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Having heard it the second time now.
Now I listen to the question.
I don't understand what she said.
Let's listen again.
How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice?
I would say...
So she's saying...
Situations of injustice?
How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice?
Yeah, the situation...
She says, how do you promote...
Wait a minute, the question makes zero sense.
She says, how do you promote...
I think we're missing context.
I think we're missing context.
Okay, well just play it then.
Don't listen to me.
No, you're right.
No, I mean, she sounds like a moron is what I think.
Well, hello, Northern Arizona University.
Is it a party school?
No, Phoenix.
No, what's the party school in Arizona?
The big party school is ASU. ASU. No, I think that the president probably said, yeah, safe space is good, but, you know, not on my campus.
How can you promote safe spaces if you don't take action in situations of injustice?
I would say to you that as a university professor, I'm not sure I have any support at all for safe space.
For Rita Chang to say something like she doesn't believe in safe spaces, I understand the idea that you need to face up to the real world or whatever and there is hate out there, but I thought institutions of learning were supposed to combat that.
And in her role as president, as an educator, she felt that safe spaces only lead to more misinformation and segregation.
Yes, I would agree.
The student's not happy they're calling for her resignation.
We're going to have to go for the long bet, John.
I'm going to go long.
Long bet, long game.
Caitlyn Jenner claims now that she feels liberated because she went all the way and had sex reassignment surgery.
Well, this is kind of disputes our thesis.
Yes, that's why I'm going long game.
I don't know what that means.
What do you mean long game?
What do you think?
Well, first of all, thank you for recognizing her chosen gender by saying she.
Sexual harassment enterprise.
Why are you thinking of me?
Go on.
Are you eating nuts?
Are you eating nuts?
No, I'm pulling something out of a cellophane bag, which is part of the show.
Your weed?
Yeah.
No, of course, we were quite convinced that this would be the big book and how I went there and came back.
Now, this may not have happened.
She may not have actually done the section.
It could be.
I have no reason to doubt her.
But she still hasn't done much about her voice.
She doesn't seem to give a crap about that.
No.
So she has a memoir coming up.
Hi, I'm a girl.
So the memoir is coming, except now it's going to be about going all the way.
In the memoir, Jenna reportedly writes that the decision to go under the knife was complex, but ultimately, quote, it's just a penis.
Okay.
Well, I'm partial to mine.
Well, they're probably getting a lot of mileage from that comment.
Yes.
I would...
Has she actually had the operation yet?
Yes, yes, yes.
In secret at the beginning of the year.
Do we know that?
No, of course we don't.
No, of course we don't know that.
Of course not.
Huh.
Yeah, that does screw up our thesis, I have to say.
I'm going long.
Okay, let me hear what you have...
What's your new...
Since you're going long, that means you have some thoughts on this.
Oh, I think that there's still going to be a reversal of some sort.
And The Voice is what really does it.
Which was her original thesis, the original thesis, because they make a better book.
And The Voice is really what does it for me.
It is completely atypical that you go all the way.
Let's face it, it was just a penis.
But instead of saying, it was just a penis, it's just a penis.
As long as she's happy, I'm happy.
Now for the final bit of our segment here, John, I have come across an unbelievable list of Gender identities.
New words that I have not heard yet.
And I researched every single one of them to make sure this wasn't a goof.
So why don't I go down the list, and anyone you want to have a little bit of information about, I'd be happy to mansplain that to you.
Okay?
Yes.
Okay?
So we start, of course, with asexual.
I think we all understand what that is.
But just to make sure, asexuals may regard other people as aesthetically attractive without feeling sexual attraction to them.
You know, is it crazy to say that I think lots of people are aesthetically attractive without feeling sexually attracted to them, but I'm not asexual.
Oh, I see what you...
Yeah, I agree.
There's a lot...
There are people you look at, especially celebrities of the highest order.
Of course, of course.
You go, holy crap, that guy looks...
That guy's really gonna get a lot of...
He's gonna get a lot of tail, that guy.
Yeah, and he just doesn't care.
Or, no, you.
You just...
You're not like...
I don't care.
I don't wanna go to bed with him.
Aromantic.
What?
Aromantic.
I think that's all men.
An aromantic is a person who experiences little or no romantic attraction to others.
So it's very close to me.
Hold on a second.
What is a romantic attraction?
I mean, there's a sexual attraction and it might result in romantic actions, but what's a romantic?
Oh, I'm a romantically attracted?
What does that even mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
It's bullcrap.
No, I'm telling you what I believe, so I understand.
Aromantic is you're just a playa.
I'm just not going to fall in love with you.
I don't want to whine and dine you.
I just want, hey, booty call, bam!
That's what I think.
I think that's a nonsense term.
Well, you'll love the next one.
Gray sexual.
Uh-oh.
This is, okay, I already know what it is.
You're literally sexually attracted to the grays.
You are so wrong.
What?
No, it's the only thing it can mean.
There's got to be some people out there who are attracted to the alien greys.
Yes, that's not in this list.
Graysexual, this is the magical, the definition, it's the magical place between asexual and someone who is sexual.
How is this magical?
Yeah.
Those who identify as graysexual might also identify as gay or straight or any other sexual identity inside or outside of the binary.
And if you understand that sentence, I'll give you a dollar.
No idea.
Moving on.
Are you liking it so far?
It's amusing enough that I'm not going to bitch about it.
Demisexual.
Now this is...
Denny's, where you go to the coffee shop?
Demi, with an M as in Mike.
Oh, Demi.
That means you only like Demi more.
Someone who identifies as demisexual doesn't typically feel sexual attraction unless they have already formed a strong emotional bond with that person.
And, as an aside, that bond may or may not be romantic in nature.
Again, I think it's just an excuse for the Melens to just bone.
I think it's one of those, I think this is the excuse where you have the, oh, we're close, but she's like my sister.
And then, you know, at some point you can't get laid and say, well, you know, what do you think?
Maybe we should do something.
Okay, I'm in if you are.
Well, then we have demi-romantic.
Well, see, this bothers me, this romantic thing, as if it's somehow a thing.
Well, and demiromantic is similar to demisexual, where the person doesn't feel romantic attraction unless they already have formed a strong emotional bond.
What's a romantic attraction?
I think when you say I love you.
No.
Okay, look, I'm just, I don't have the answers.
This is confusing for me, too.
Okay, continue.
Lithromantic.
Yes.
That means you're stoned on lithographic supplies because they have a stink and they got a lot of solvents in them and you're kind of like dizzy and then it makes you that way.
No, it's better.
Oh.
Lithromantic is a person who experiences romantic love but does not want their feelings to be reciprocated.
So, I love you, please don't love me.
Hate me.
Just bone me.
This is all about boning.
I'm telling you, this is all different.
That one could be, that sounds like, the way it's described there, it seems like a sadomasochistic thing.
Yeah, a little master and slave thing going on, maybe.
Yeah, it could be, you know, hate me, hate me.
Then, of course, we have a classic, a favorite, the pansexual.
You know what that is, the pansexual, of course.
Yeah, you'll have sex with an animal.
Anything.
Anything.
Now, what are you going to do?
Anyone going to eat this meatloaf?
That's the pansexual.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
That is one of the better ones.
Someone somewhere was in their car drinking coffee, and it's all over the windscreen.
We try.
Now, this is one that I hear a lot, the polysexual.
Which means I can just be attracted to anybody and anything.
And it can be all at the same time.
More people...
Yeah, the orgiest.
Then we have...
We're almost at the end of the list here, John.
We, of course, have the pan-romantic...
Oh, there we go again.
...person who is romantically but not sexually attracted to others, regardless of sex or gender.
So I want to love you, but not even the tip.
Yeah.
Then we have queer platonic...
A queer platonic relationship is not very romantic in nature, but does involve very close emotional connections, often deeper or more intense than what is traditionally considered a friendship.
And if you're in a queer platonic relationship, which I think we're in a way we're in a queer platonic relationship.
I hope not.
This is not romantic in nature.
But we have very close emotional connections that are often deeper or more intense than what is traditionally considered a friendship.
Yeah, I think that's pretty close.
But you know what you call your partner if you're in a queer platonic relationship?
Hey, dude.
No, the term is zucchini.
As in, he's my zucchini.
Who would say something like that?
That probably happened because there was no dick emoji.
We only got the zucchini.
And then the last one, gotta be my favorite.
Scoliosexual.
That means you have a bad back.
Scoliosexual is sexual attraction to non-binary identified individuals or those who do not identify as cisgender.
Oh, brother.
Sorry, I just shot myself.
Scolosexual.
Oh, my goodness.
Enough said.
Somebody puts this crap out there just to see how long before they called out as bullcrap.
You know, I went back and I looked at all these terms.
Some of these terms go back to 2010, 2011.
This is not new.
It's just not been on our radar.
For good reason.
It is nuts.
Totally nuts.
Well, what gets me is that some people out there, and I think I know a couple, begin to use these terms about themselves.
Yes.
I know people too.
Of course.
And it's very distressing.
Yes.
I want to get into our break here.
We don't necessarily have to do the jingle.
I just want to talk about tech news briefly.
Tech news.
I have one tech news kind of piece.
I mean, I could shoehorn it into tech news.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you want to do a proper tech news?
No, let's don't do the jingle.
Let's just go to tech.
Tell me what you got.
Mini tech news.
Well, I was watching PBS NewsHour, and they have this one guy who comes on, he does the science report.
I'm already laughing.
I already like it.
And this is about space exploration.
And this is just kind of the end of the report because I notice a lot of journalists, especially these guys who do feature pieces and then they don't get on the air as much as they'd like.
They always like to punch up the end with some sort of a pun or something.
Yeah, the guy did this, but then he did that.
Back to you.
Back to the studio.
And so this guy has this stretch of A stretch piece, because there's a congressman who's all happy and giddy over the fact that President Trump is going to at least maintain some budget for NASA, so they can go out in space and explore in the next 50 years.
Can you explain the concept of a stretch piece to everybody?
A stretch piece is something that you extend to the time allotted.
If you're given so much time to do something, you'll stretch it out.
It's not really hard to do.
But typically it's because you have a few more, like a minute over to get to the commercial because something else didn't go right in the rundown.
Yeah, then you have to stretch.
Generally speaking, this was a package that really wasn't a stretch piece, but his stretch was this cornball ending.
Culberson is all about making NASA great again.
But watch what happened in the Oval Office after the President signed the authorization bill for the space agency's current budget.
Mr.
President, if I may, just as Americans remember that President Eisenhower was the father of the interstate highway system, with your bill signing today and your vision and leadership, future generations will remember that President Donald Trump was the father of the interplanetary highway system.
Well, that sounds exciting.
First, we want to fix our highways.
We're going to fix our highways.
We're going to fix our highways.
Europa and Mars may beckon, but for politicians, it's never wise to ignore the potholes, even when surrounded by people who care more about black holes.
In a meeting.
Bye.
Wow!
Hold on a second.
Douchebag!
What was that?
The worst you've ever heard?
I don't know.
It's the worst I've heard for months.
We need a name for this kind of segment.
You know, like pun something.
I don't know.
I don't know what to call it.
The fun pun of the week.
I don't know.
Something like that.
It's ridiculous.
Well, something happened in the past couple days, which I predicted.
I was very early on this train, and I said it was a huge security hole, and Burger King walked right into it.
Very good.
They did it.
They did what I've been telling them to do, what I've been saying should be done, for over at least a year.
You're watching a 15-second Burger King ad, which is unfortunately not enough time to explain all the fresh ingredients in the Whopper sandwich.
But I got an idea.
Okay, Google.
What is the Whopper Burger?
So, hello.
Of course that worked.
And kudos for the agency for not using the Siri word because it's people who use androids who eat at Burger King as far as I'm concerned.
And there's no mobile...
This is a piece of bigotry that I didn't expect.
Oh, I'm sure that I can...
Because I can imagine the meeting.
I don't give a crap.
I'm telling you.
That's why they did that.
Now, here's what was very...
I'm sure you heard about the story, and I just want to run through it because...
So what you're saying is if they use Siri, people who use Siri, they wouldn't be caught dead at Burger King because it's beneath them.
Oh, God!
Who the hell eats there?
I would say, in general, I would say that the audience for Burger King uses Android phones.
I have my reasoning.
Okay.
Beside the point.
So here was the gambit.
The gambit was good.
I'm sure they heard it on our show.
And the gambit was, let's trigger all these phones, and a lot of them have this, of course, certainly the new Google phone.
Let's trigger them to go and answer this question, which the way it works with the Amazon Alexa device along with Google and Siri won't actually read anything, which is very lame.
But they go to Wikipedia.
And so this was great.
People's things were firing up everywhere and people figured out very quickly, oh, she is reading from Wikipedia.
So they went in and they started changing the Wikipedia page.
According to Wikipedia, the Whopper is a burger consisting of a flame-grilled patty made with 100% medium-sized child with no preservatives or fillers topped with sliced tomatoes, onions, lettuce, cyanide, pickles, ketchup, and mayonnaise served on a sesame seed bun.
A little bit of a medium-sized child in there.
Got some cyanide on it.
So this resulted in a Wikipedia edit war.
People were freaking out.
So change it back.
Change it in again.
Back and forth.
Meanwhile, this thing is hilarious.
Then Google does something interesting.
They disable this particular request.
I think that is...
Now we're in a whole different world of new media versus old media.
I think this is a tipping point, I'll use the term.
This is ground zero.
We already have a lot of mainstream...
This is Alexa, right?
No, this is Google, the Google woman.
Okay.
Okay.
I think that there is a real war afoot.
And, of course, this is directly going after advertisers.
They may have expected it or not.
I'm not sure.
But they, of course, had to shut it down.
It doesn't work anymore.
It's ineffective.
Thank you.
What's going on with the mainstream propagating how evil the ads are.
All of Google's ads show up on Nazi websites, anti-Semites, anti-gay.
It's horrible.
And of course it's true.
We all know that Google doesn't give a crap and now they're getting called out for it and it's not going to look pretty in their numbers.
There's a lot of this going on, pulling ads from YouTubers.
It's a constant, constant, ongoing battle.
And it's the new media versus the old media.
And it's going to ratchet up.
I really like this.
You can just see Google, hey, wait a minute.
You're not making money off of our thing without being in on it.
That was the mistake.
They should have let them in on it.
We're going to see a lot of this.
That actually was the mistake.
And they could have easily.
And Google's got the people that could make that happen.
They would have done that, of course.
They don't give a crap.
It would have been fantastic.
And they actually could have, instead of shutting it down, they could have put a canned message in there that can't be corrected.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And not read it from Wikipedia, as an example.
Right.
Just read it.
Just do it.
Just do the whole thing as like a native ad to OK Google.
But, I mean, seriously, the only thing we need is just for someone, the right moment.
It could be Academy Awards.
I'll even take the Country Music Awards.
I'll take anything.
Just get on TV and say, Alexa, play the latest episode of the No Agenda Show!
That kind of stuff.
Yeah.
That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for.
If you can call into C-SPAN, even if it's 10 people, you need to be doing this.
This is true hacking.
Anyone can perform this hack.
Anybody.
Actually, I don't have the clip.
But about five or six shows ago, there was an entire special on...
Yes, on CBS? Yeah, it was on CBS, and then the idea was, Alexis, volume 10.
Yeah, Alexa.
Alexis, Alexa.
Yeah.
Play Who Let the Dogs Out, and it would turn the volume up to 10, and then play Who Let...
And so you couldn't stop it.
Apparently, when the volume is at 10, Alexa, volume 10.
Let's try it.
Alexa, volume 10.
Alexa, play Who Let the Dogs Out.
Who Let the Dogs Out by Baja Men.
Hit it!
Who Let the Dogs Out!
Yeah.
Alexa, Volume 3.
Now it doesn't even go through the thing.
Okay.
So much for that theory, but whatever.
What do you mean?
It worked perfectly.
What are you talking about?
I said Volume 3 and it went down to 3.
You couldn't even hear it anymore.
That's the point, is that the joke was once it got to 10, you couldn't yell loud enough to make Alexa turn it down.
Nah, that doesn't work.
That doesn't work.
Well, I guess it doesn't work.
I don't have one of these things.
You do.
You proved it doesn't work.
So that whole piece that was on the news was bullcrap.
Part of it, yeah, for sure.
It's just sad.
It's just sad that this is what it's come to.
It's not sad, it's pathetic.
Well, none of this is going to end well, I can tell you that for sure.
None of it.
I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
Oh, we do have a number of people to thank for today's show, 920.
It's a pretty good group that came in.
We do have some messages to read in this process that we have to pay some attention to.
But let's go down.
Starting with Kevin Gabriel in Lancaster, California.
This is $170.10.
Amy Williams in Pwollop.
Or Pwollop.
$250.
I got a big...
You know, people getting on my case for pronouncing it, although if anyone doesn't know how to pronounce it at all, they would pronounce it pew-yala-yala-yala-up.
She says, use my name, Amy Williams.
Okay, we did that, luckily.
She's on the birthday list?
Yeah, I believe so.
Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina, 128-64.
Sanford Staub in Kuskia, 124.
Oh, that's what Kevin was 12864.
This is 124.
And 124 equals I love you according to gematrix.org.
This may be an interesting donation to make a regular donation.
Wait a minute.
How does that work out?
I don't know.
You've got to go to gematrix.org.
Hmm.
He says, Happy Easter.
He needs some karma for the LifeRanch.com.
We'll give you that at the end.
It's LifeWaterRanch.com.
Yeah, we'll do that.
LifeWaterRanch.com.
Okay.
Anonymous, one, two, three, four, five.
Sherry Portenier in Lakewood, Colorado.
Another birthday call out.
A lot of birthdays today.
Tom Hunter in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, $101.
Joseph Harrell, $100.
This is the pun guy.
This is surviving the media in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
Very funny.
This is 919.
It was an excellent show.
The longer, the better.
Well, to you.
And actually, not everyone believes that to be true.
Jonathan Hess in Heidelberg, Deutschland.
Heidelberg.
99.99.
it's a new new new thing no Melissa Hodges, Dame Melissa, as far as I know, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 72.
C.R. Douglas, 9190.
He's a cranky geek fan from the olden days.
Please accept investment into my knighthood.
Okay, we did.
You got it.
Sir Milkman, 8843.
Double nickels on...
Double nickels on the dime plus 3333.
You got it.
Jeffrey Zach found the new boob link.
What was the link in the newsletter this time?
Well, we had a picture of that model that was taking an egg out of her breast and then dyeing it.
I forgot her name.
Gee, that was the boob?
And so is the boob and idiot.
It's a new boob and idiot donation.
Nice.
Yeah.
And an Easter egg.
It's an Easter egg because she had an Easter egg in her hand.
Yes.
A boob and she had a couple big boobs and she's an idiot.
So it's perfect.
Yes.
We can use that.
That's an evergreen kind of thing.
Jeffrey Zack, an electric Texas boob.
Herb Lamb came in late.
That's Kate Upton is the woman.
Sir Herb Lamb of Silver Hill.
Sir Herb is 8008.
You had me at Kate Upton, he says.
My favorite boob link ever.
Anthony Garlinger also caught it.
8008 in Roselle, Illinois.
That's Sir Tony, Jedi Knight of the Coders.
His preferred pronoun is God, so you know.
God.
Cyrus Christian, 8008, parts unknown.
Something he says, don't say on the air.
Oh, yeah, well, we're working on it.
Sir Finch, nasty night of the bachelor butte boob.
Andy Wyatt, this is big boob day.
The boobs would be banging today.
Yeah, big boob day.
Andy Wyatt, 808.
Brian Rosa, these are all amazing.
I think we're boob sexuals, really.
Milton, New York.
Anonymous CPA in Dawsonville, Georgia.
All boobs.
This is all boobs.
Amy Burlingame in Bergen, New York.
This is Jim and Amy.
Joshua Thibodeau.
Fine job with the media assassination, guys.
Keep up the great work.
Anonymous boob.
Mark Hampton, 8008.
Greg Dial, 8008.
Matt Cavaness in Malta Bend, Missouri.
And he says boobs, boobs, boobs, and boobs.
Let's vote for boobs.
Alan D. Peterson, boob, and he's the last of the boobs.
Sir Brian Green of Hams, 7373.
Let me get my water here.
All those boobies got me congested.
You okay?
He's 7373.
KC9YJM. Yeah.
7373.
Michael Kammerer in Bothell, Washington.
6545.
Mark Magpio.
Double nickels on the dime.
He's got a little note.
Is that interesting?
I don't know.
Simon...
I don't know.
What do you think?
Hold on a second.
Where are you?
I'm on line 42.
And he has a happy birthday call.
Oh, it's Nebesnwick.
Nebesnwick.
Do you have Clementine Miller on the list?
Yes.
From creepy Uncle Neb?
Uncle Neb.
That wasn't put on, actually.
Oh, well, that should be on there.
Creepy.
That's funny.
Thanks, Obama.
Thanks, Obama.
Zachary Jarrow's Double Nickels on the Dime.
He says, Greg, the last couple of shows are fabulous, he says.
Zachary Gerose, I'm sorry, I just said, Michael Slissinger in Matcom, Michigan.
S.R. Whitney in Surrey, B.C., 5440.
Says, please forward these funds to the Scott M. Memorial Fund.
Remember him?
Yes, I do.
Sir Kevin Payne in Chantilly, Virginia, 5432.
Anonymous 5889.
Casey Krizler.
Yeah, we've got to read this one.
Yes.
You want to read it?
Yeah.
John Adam.
Adam, my wife died of cancer on March 1st, and it has affected me deeply.
But listening to your podcast really helps me get through these dark days.
I'm in the process of catching up on all the old episodes, so I have a long way to go.
I'm donating what I can right now, but money is tight at the moment.
I'd appreciate an F cancer for those suffering and a Yoko Ono great gig in the sky.
The 3-27 in 53-27 is in honor of her birthday.
All my future donations will end in the amount of 3-27.
and I don't know Casey, I don't know what to say.
We're very sorry for your loss.
Love and light, obviously.
and of course we'll play these jingles for you.
Stop it, go!
That's what I'm talking about!
I'm out.
I have no doubt that made him feel a little better.
I hope so.
Yeah.
Sir Chris of Low Earth Orbit, 51-51.
Brian Tobias in Gardner, Kansas, 51-29.
Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 50-69.
Is Sir Kevin to you?
He's changing his title today.
Yes, he is.
Shane Hawk, 50-05.
And now we have $50 donors, name and location, if there's any locations on here.
Sir Richard Gardner again.
Rick Cable.
Sir Michael Allen.
Sir Sean of the Anderondacks.
Sir Mike Westerfield.
Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida.
Brian Savoy.
I think he's a sir, I'm pretty sure.
Jeffrey Chadwick and DeBendigo.
Edgar Elmagaer.
Oh man, Elmagaer.
I know Elmagaer.
I'm sure that's the way it's pronounced.
Edgar Elmagaer in Wachahachie, Texas.
Jesse Nolet in Arlington, Texas.
And last but not least, John Fitzpatrick in Kieber Springs, Arkansas.
Thank all these folks for giving us a helping hand on show 920 when it was most needed.
Yes.
That's odd.
A phone call just came in from the Dutch TMZ. Oh, now what?
I don't know.
You always got to wonder.
It's going to be a gem.
I live a very exciting life.
I would like to thank everybody for coming in with these numbers today.
Thank you so much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
We do it twice a week, Thursdays and Sundays.
We really hope we can count on you for Thursday's show.
Of course, that is at Dvorak.org.
And some karma for those who need jobs and otherwise.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You start.
Karma.
Here we go.
Duke Nussbaum says happy birthday to Amy, turning 33.
A.J. Reistat says happy birthday to his human resource, who turns 8 tomorrow, April 14th.
Amy Williams also celebrating tomorrow, magic number 33.
Sherry Portigny says happy birthday to Levi Portigny.
Jonathan Hess, happy birthday to his girlfriend, Sonia, celebrating today.
Simon Nevesnyk, happy birthday.
niece Clementine Miller from your creepy Uncle Ned.
And happy birthday to Ellen Nicole Snyder, 22 years old today.
Happy birthday from me and from your mom.
And from everybody here, the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah.
Now, there was something you were going to read during the birthday thing or right after it.
That's right.
And here it is.
And by the way, the next show is Sunday.
Sunday.
Did I say Thursday?
Yeah, you've made that mistake a couple times recently for some wishful thinking.
It's alternate universe travel.
Obviously, that's what happens.
You get completely confused.
Now, Duke Nussbaum had a very specific happy birthday mention for Amy, who turns 33.
I'm shocked.
Shocked to find that Amy is 33 years old.
There's nothing better than that.
Just keep on sending that stuff in.
That's right, we got a couple title changes here.
First of all, we congratulate Sir Greg, who now becomes Baron of the Chicago Portage.
Sir Kevin McLaughlin becomes a Baronet today, and Sanford Staub becomes a Baron.
But did we not have a name for him, for Sanford?
Sandy?
Sandy, Sandy, stop.
Sandy, what happened?
Did we not have a...
Well, we were happy to make a proper mention of it, Sir Barron, Sir Sanford.
I thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
Have you seen what NPR is doing?
They're trying to promote people listening to their podcasts.
Oh, jeez.
Ready?
It's a hashtag try a pod.
What?
Yes.
I know.
Try a pod?
Yeah, actually it's...
But like we're pod people from the A where the thing comes down and you turn into a zombie?
It's even worse.
That's what they're talking about.
Try a pod?
Yeah, it's even worse.
Try a pod.
There's one there.
Invasion of the body snatchers is what you're thinking of, Donald Sutherland.
Sleep next to it.
Hashtag tripod.
Hashtag T-R-Y-P-O-D. Tripod.
I'm thinking we need to start our own hashtag.
Tripod.
That's the hashtag you want.
Tripod.
I mean, I've heard of some tone-deaf marketing.
That's got to be at the top of the list.
It's a committee.
This is a public radio, public broadcasting.
Everything's done by committee.
They've got too much money.
They don't know what they're doing.
They have no management that can make a decision.
Or they have one guy who just lords it over everybody.
I've got an idea.
Tripod.
How do you think?
Okay, great boss.
Great, great, great.
We had an excellent example of limited video evidence that really started this storm off with United Airlines.
We don't really even know the whole story.
All we know is that we saw that guy...
We had no nightings?
Zero.
Oh.
All I have is title changes.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
As far as I know.
Well, you can put the sword back then.
Don't cut yourself.
Okay, slam back in there for me.
So, let me see.
Where's your scabbard?
Oh, here it is.
It's on the floor.
I got it.
Next to the keyboard, of course.
Stupid question.
Okay, so we all know kind of the story.
Oh, there's a lot of parameters around it that people aren't aware of.
This was the guy who was asked, you know, initially people asked voluntary to leave.
They offered the money.
Well, why don't you bring the story?
I don't know if the whole world heard this.
All right, I will do, I will tell us.
Give us a background.
Okay.
What we saw, and the way it was planted in everyone's mind, is here's a guy, an Asian guy, turns out to be a doctor, and he's being dragged with a bloodied face off of a plane.
United Airlines, the biggest piece of a-holes, the biggest a-holes in history.
Not just aviation, they're all history.
Now let's explain exactly what happened.
First of all, you need to understand that as a part of your contract, your carriage contract, in the fine print, when you're on the aircraft, you lose certain rights.
At that point, the ship's captain is law, and you have to comply with him.
And it's like a EULA. Of course, this is where we're going to go.
It is exactly that.
It is a EULA, which is End User License Agreement.
If you've never seen South Park, if you don't read the EULA and click yes, certainly in iTunes, bad things can happen.
You can become a human centipede.
But we all agree to these things.
No one's going to read that, of course, and we're agreeing to these things all the time.
But it's been in there, and that was instilled by Congress.
It's an official law, and the reason why that was done, that people can be kicked off or denied boarding, but also kicked off for other reasons than being unruly.
The captain is always the boss.
You have no rights once you're on that aircraft.
In order to make air travel efficient, because back in the day you could book it, I'm going to cancel, I'm not going to do that.
In order to make your flight cheap, in order to make everything work for the system to go, they have the right to overbook and to deny boarding.
And there's some maximum amounts set in compensation.
In fact, I have a couple of links in the show notes.
It's very interesting what rights you do not have at all once you're on the aircraft.
But they can certainly offer up to $1,350.
I believe it has to be in cash.
It may not be true.
I think it's always been vouched.
I hear a lot of people say in cash, but I'm pretty sure it's vouchers.
I've had it happen.
Yeah, I've done that too.
If it's an international flight, it can go up to $4,000 or $5,000, including room and board, etc.
This flight was not overbooked, but they had some issues down the line.
The flight was going from Chicago to Kentucky.
They needed a flight crew to get to Kentucky for their operations.
Otherwise, they might have had 300 people sitting on the ground.
So time to ask four people to go off.
They finally get, I think, three.
Who take the $800?
They could have gone higher in money, but then they have their own system, which is, you know, it is up to them how they want to decide who gets booted off.
United Airlines says their policy is gooks first, then we take blacks.
No.
Obviously, it's things like status, how much you paid for your ticket.
Sorry?
Fired.
Oh, I'd be fired.
I'd be so fired.
You're fired.
You're off the show, Curry!
Fired!
When you're done with this, by the way, you can run the clip I have here called Munoz, which is his second apology where it actually explains some of the crap that goes on.
Good.
So all we saw was the final altercation, but here's how it worked.
They needed to get somebody off the flight.
So they said, we're looking for volunteers, a couple volunteers.
Okay, we need one more person.
No one volunteers.
I think they could have gone higher in money personally.
I don't think they handled it properly.
That's because they're trained to go by the book and they don't go higher in money.
That's what Munoz explains.
It's explained in this next clip.
The company's CEO, Oscar Munoz, said he has failed to create an environment in which employees are free to use common sense to solve problems rather than strictly following policy, something he says he will fix.
You saw us at a bad moment, and this will never happen again on a United Airlines flight.
That's my premise, and that's my promise.
I don't think he should be making those promises.
Because it wasn't the United...
United Airlines didn't kick this guy off.
They followed the rules, their own rules.
They needed...
I think it was common sense.
It's not pretty, but aviation is not pretty.
Aviation is a crappy business.
The government is bailing out airlines all the time.
It is a complete private-public partnership for a whole bunch of reasons.
So you're dealing with the government.
And if you don't follow it, the government says, hey, shut up, slave.
We're going to drag your ass away.
So, from all the reports I have, I have some additional video which we have not seen played everywhere.
We only see the one scene, of course.
And so first he was asked, he was asked, he was asked.
He says, no, I'm not.
In fact, this first clip is very difficult to hear.
Because they're standing.
It's the airline employees and the cops.
And I'll tell you what he says so you can pick it up in this clip.
No, I'm not getting off.
No, I'm not getting off.
You'll have to drag me off.
No, I'm not going.
I am not going.
Well, you can drag me down.
I won't go.
I'm not going.
I'll stay right there.
Let's just try to use your phone.
Yeah.
You'll have to drag me.
And so they went back and forth, and then they called in the cops, Chicago police, and said, well, we have an issue.
We have a passenger who won't comply.
It's all within the regulations.
And, you know, I got to tell you one thing.
The time to be belligerent towards police is not with the Chicago police force and certainly not on an aircraft.
And this is the guy saying, no, no, I'm not going to get to drag me off.
So the cops went, okay, we'll drag you off.
And they did.
And then the guy ran back.
He ran through the secure area, ran back.
He's at the back of the plane.
Now his face is bloody.
He's completely out of his mind.
He's saying, just kill me, just kill me.
The guy is now, he's just completely, completely out of his mind.
And ultimately, they take him out.
And of course, now he's in the hospital.
It's going to be a huge lawsuit.
The airlines has already compensated everyone who was on the flight.
But what's interesting to me is two things about this story.
One, you are a slave of the state.
Shut up, slave.
If you don't comply, this is what happens.
I want you to understand, this is just the beginning of When you start to not follow the rules, this is what happened.
You get beaten, your face bashed in and dragged off.
That's just fact, reality.
Learn from that.
That's not to Chicago.
That's the government, the U.S. government, their government system.
The second one is how interesting we're seeing now with, certainly with social media, How these events that would never even really make the news are becoming the number one item in the news cycle.
Completely unhealthy.
A lot of bad stuff.
I think we are seeing, again, we're seeing people finally maybe recognizing a little bit of the power they have.
And most people don't see it.
But if you can really effectively organize, some things will make a difference.
Oh, yeah.
Well, here's the United follow-up.
This is the miscellaneous information that you kind of summarized some of it.
Oh, my God!
Look at what you did!
Two of my students were crying.
There were other people who were crying.
It was a very traumatic event for everybody.
Thank you for flying the Friendly Skies.
United brands itself as the airline of the Friendly Skies.
But Dow's experience has other flyers crying foul.
Jeff Bearns says a United employee threatened him with handcuffs if he didn't give up a first class seat to a frequent flyer and move to economy last week.
Probably the most charitable way I could describe it would be tone deaf and condescending.
Guy Smith, a public relations crisis manager, says there is growing flyer frustration with airlines in general.
For United, it has to relearn friendly.
You need to shift the entire corporation and every employee in it to a customer-oriented culture.
If it's not about the customer, it's not going to work.
United took a step in that direction today.
The airline is now refunding all the passengers on Dr.
Dow's flight.
And Scott United has also apologized to Jeff Bearns for the handcuff threat.
Yeah, I'm going to take an unpopular stance here.
I'm going to say the airline was right.
The cops were tired of this guy.
We haven't seen any of the real altercation, any of it.
Just a little snippet that we have there.
And he was just refusing.
You know, go ahead.
If the cop pulls you over and says, I caught you speeding, and you say, yeah, okay, fine.
But would you please get out of the car?
No.
Now, there's cases where you don't have to do anything.
But this guy was clearly violating a written rule.
And slaves of the United States of Gitmo Nation, you've got to learn your rights and your rules.
You are a helpless, cannon fodder, useless grass eater to the government.
You are!
You're nothing to them.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Now, I just wanted to bring up one little topic because I'm seeing a lot of things change.
I'm pretty sure I know what you're saying.
Take...
Whoa!
You okay?
Did you fall?
John?
John?
Yeah, can you hear me now?
Yes.
What happened?
Yeah, let me tell you what it sounded like to me.
Yeah, it sounded like it dropped dead.
I kept hearing that.
But I'm serious for a minute.
Yeah, well, you didn't hear that.
All right, now give me a little...
I find it annoying.
That's the first thing everyone thinks.
What happened was the mic stand...
Fell over.
Well, I was...
Anyway, it just fell over.
Which happens once in a while.
But what happened in this case, it fell over and then it took the little cable and bent it that goes into the bottom of the mic.
Oh.
And it bent it.
I couldn't get it to stick back in.
Yeah, there's a square plug.
It doesn't have the little loop-de-doo or anything.
No loop-de-doo.
I was just about to launch into the final thing I wanted to talk about.
I'm already pretty sure what your opinion is.
Because between the last show and this show, I launched NoAgendaSocial.com, which is our own instance of the Mastodon social media network.
And you actually came in, you looked around, you blocked some people, so you were an old JCD, feeling good, and then you left.
Adios, mofos, be back later.
That was it.
Done.
No more.
Never saw you again.
Never saw him again.
And I wanted to know what your experience was, because I have some thoughts about it.
Okay, now that I'm back, how do I sound?
You sound great.
Thank you.
I thought it was just Twitter using a Ron Bloom color scheme of white on black.
Which I don't like.
Yeah.
I think you missed a lot there, and I just wanted to go through a couple reasons quickly.
We don't have to have a huge conversation about it, but I'll tell you why I think it's extremely interesting.
Is that okay?
Yeah.
You know, the funny thing about this mic stand is that I don't move it much.
screws itself.
Have you ever noticed this?
I'm going to just bring this up.
You have a phone and you have that twisted cable.
It gets all twisty.
You don't, most people don't use landlines anymore, but if you do that, all of a sudden it gets all twisty and pretty soon it's just a jumbo.
Oh no, I have headphones, headphones.
I always have with headphones.
And there's nothing you're doing to make this happen.
Yeah.
This is, I'm sure there's a term for it.
Headphones.
Headphones all the time.
Then it gets stretched out and all of a sudden there's a knot in the head.
And then you try to uncurl it.
How does it not even get in there?
I hear you.
Gremlins.
Anyway, onward.
All right.
Okay, so we're back to the Twitter Mastodon.
Yeah, and so yes, it is exactly like Twitter, only there's a few huge differences which I think are worth noting.
First of all, the fact that this has now just popped like this and people are signing up and they're putting up servers everywhere, that's something that always needs to be noted.
The fact that most corporate tech journalists, like your buddy Lance Ulanoff, have excoriated this as being stupid, proves even more, I think.
But here are the main differences.
Unlike Twitter, and I'll even throw in Facebag, and I'll even throw in Instagram, instead of having one timeline, completely controlled by an algo, an algorithm.
The algo determines what you see.
The algo determines what you see.
I'm going to have some sushi with my algo and it's going to be delish.
The algo...
It's one simple algorithm.
It is first in, first out, reverse chronological order.
You control what you see.
And in this particular instance, I'll use that word, you have three timelines, which seems like it's more than, of course it is more than what Twitter has, but it really gives you control.
You can see what's happening on your own local community server, and we have a no agenda server.
That's only people who are on that server.
It's our community.
It's very nice.
But just having those people alone is kind of boring after a while.
So they have this concept that these servers can start talking to each other, and you can follow people on other servers, and it starts to show up in the third timeline, which is, you have your notifications, of course, which is your, they call it the federated timeline.
Wait, wait, wait.
What's the first timeline?
So you have the local timeline.
Yeah.
Then you have home, and your home is everyone you follow and people on your...
Anyone I follow, that's universal.
Yes, that's universal.
Well, how is that different from the last one that you said, the interconnected timeline?
You're just getting a feed of everything in the air?
Well, that's what's interesting.
It's like a fire hose.
So, here's how...
This is an actual example, and I think beautiful by...
And before you go on, I should mention, originally, Twitter had that.
Yes!
Oh, well, I was going to conclude by saying, when Twitter was just starting, it was wide open.
Developers were going crazy.
They loved it.
We created thousands of apps, you know, TweetDeck, all this stuff, fantastic.
And then Twitter went, yeah, no, we've got to make some money.
We've got to control it all.
F off, you developers.
Go away.
So there was this pent-up energy, I think, and it became much easier when Twitter was created.
Now, we're talking more than 10 years ago.
Yeah.
You know, the tools are better.
More kids can set up a server.
You know, the timing was almost perfect.
Now, so let's just say, basically, it's your private Twitter.
But if I were to follow someone, and this actually happened, Leo popped up somehow.
I follow Leo.
Everyone that Leo follows then possibly can also show up in the federated timeline.
So this is how you start to meld these communities together.
And it's really an extension of the community we have.
So somebody within the NoAgendaSocial.com community followed someone from the communist social network server.
So now all of a sudden we've got all these commies showing up in the timeline.
And then But they're having actual conversations.
And believe it or not, Leo and I were actually tooting to each other.
I never see Leo or anyone from Twit ever on Twitter.
But now these two communities started to meld.
It was very interesting.
So you have a lot of control.
You have the control, not the algorithm.
Um...
Very simple things for hiding images that aren't safe.
You have to click it to see the image or the text, which I think is great.
In fact, I'm more likely to click on the picture now just because I want to see what someone has posted.
You can use it for all kinds of fun, different ways.
But you really have...
The capability of connecting multiple, even dimensions, yes, alternate universes, can come together.
It supports RSS fully, in and out, another thing I've always wanted.
You can set up all kinds of bots.
It's really a developer's dream, and I see this possibly going somewhere.
There's only one drawback.
It wasn't hard for me to set up the server.
It takes three, four hours.
There's a lot of, you know, you get to that point, the server's up, and then I made the classic open-source software mistake of, oh, there's a new version.
Let me just get, pull that and bring it up.
And, of course, that brought everything down for three hours because it was all buggy and broken.
But the hardest part, the thing that the weakest part of this whole system, strangely enough, being an administrator, is the registration emails.
So you come in, I want an account, you have to confirm your registration email, and I'm using a professional SMTP provider, and still it's getting trapped in all kinds of spam.
This is the hardest, because I'm not part of the global scam, which is whitelisting of emails, which can cost you upwards of $50,000 to $60,000 a month.
That's what all these startups all pay that to these shysters, these a-holes, who are funded by the same venture capitalists.
It's disgusting.
But in general, I will say, I'm excited about this.
Yeah, apparently, this is the second time we've discussed it.
Of course, I said I was going to join, so last time was just me making, you know.
And of course, usually I'm in a complete opposite of what Lance Ulanoff thinks when he was at BC Magazine.
He's my editor, and we'd go after each other.
It was kind of a fake feud, but he would write something, and then I'd blast him, or I'd write something.
He'd try to blast me.
I was always winning, by the way.
Well, of course.
Lance Ulanoff.
Screw that guy.
Otherwise, if you're not winning, we'll come in and make you win.
Oh, he's a great guy.
Lance Ulanoff is a fantastic person.
Come over there and make you win.
Very funny cartoonist.
So he might be wrong.
That's what I'm saying.
He might be wrong.
It's being explained very poorly, and I don't think people really understand it.
Well, if I was going to write a column, to blast his column, the first thing I would do is, he obviously has a bromance with William Shatner.
That's the way it started.
Yeah, of course, yes.
Because his whole gripe was that he couldn't get Shatner on a thing where they could do a crossover.
Right.
Yes, exactly.
That was his major complaint.
He couldn't get Shatner.
And I used to follow Shatner.
But Shatner is like on Twitter.
But he's like, he tweets too much.
He tweets, he likes to watch TV and do a, you know, real-time tweet.
Oh, now look at that.
Who put the makeup on her?
Wow!
You're just constant kind of kibitzing.
And it's very hard to, at some point, just take some of your whole page.
Well, I'm well impressed with what has been...
And it's also...
This infrastructure is 10 years old.
I mean, it's Identica.
The new social, I think, is what it is.
All this stuff.
It's been around for a long time, but someone finally put the interface on it that people wanted, made it manageable enough for idiots like me.
I'm a VJ. I'm a VJ. I have no business knowing what RBINV is.
No business upgrading Ruby on Rails to 2.4.1.
I really...
I'm not a dude named Ben.
But still, I could do it.
And this has always been my dream of small community.
Yes, it has been.
This has been your dream.
This is my dream.
This is my dream.
Bill, my vision has always been small communities.
One person sets up the server, maintains it.
The others make, they pay him for it or whatever they do.
And then we all enjoy that.
But the interconnecting piece, that's the genius part.
The federation.
Just the name alone is kind of cool.
A lot of stuff is cool except for toot.
I actually like that.
You think it's a cocaine reference?
It's a snort of cocaine.
No, it's a fart.
No one, only you, you with cocaine in the membrane, only you are thinking of that.
I have never heard anyone else compare it to...
Not okay out there.
Everyone heard him, right?
Adam at curry.com.
You ever heard the phrase toot?
No, no, they've heard it, but I've not heard people say that tooting is about cocaine.
They say it's about farting.
Well, of course.
And then they're all 12 years old.
Of course.
Toot for the snoot.
We've all heard the joke.
No, I get it.
Anyway, I implore you to take a look because it's refreshing to not have the algorithms telling me what I should see.
I manage it myself.
I like it.
All right, well, let's take it to the next level.
Are you going to allow the No Agenda family to get an account on your server as we speak right now today?
Yes, NoAgendaSocial.com.
It's wide open.
You can go right in and get an account.
NoAgendaSocial.com.
Now, take it to the next level, because I asked you about this already.
Can I tweet this?
Well, I was thinking about that.
I would prefer you don't.
I would like to see how it grows organically just from the show because the minute you tweet it out, then we're going to get a lot of I don't know.
I'd like to see how it grows organically.
Okay, I'd just shut up about it.
No, I'd just prefer you don't promote it on Twitter.
You can talk about it, but not say, hey, sign up, everybody!
No, that's not what I want.
Send out a newsletter.
Yeah, you could certainly say, wow, Adam Curry's awesome.
That would be a good way to start your tweet.
And he likes chocolate cake, the best.
All right.
Let us move on with the show.
Because I only have two clips left.
Would you like to play something before I get into my final two?
Well, I do have the North Korean update.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I got a good one if you have time for it.
This is a great story that was done on PBS. And I have to say, and it's right down your strike zone.
This is a special that was done, and the whole staff at NewsHour was kind of perplexed by this.
This is Haiti?
Yes.
In fact, that was one of my two clips.
So yeah, let's listen to yours.
Absolutely.
You want to set it up?
This is the UN Peacekeepers Raping.
This is a woman of the Associated Press that is doing most of the...
Well, she's not.
She's heading the research of a bunch of investigative reporters that have been going into this, into the UN Peacekeepers.
They've been raping.
They got child rings, pedophile rings.
They're running all this stuff.
The UN's not doing anything about it except admitting it.
And the story is disgusting.
Actually, I'd like to give a little context to this, that...
One of Hillary Clinton's friends, in the aftermath of the earthquake in Haiti, one of her friends was caught and subsequently jailed in Haiti for smuggling, trying to smuggle children across the border.
Her name is Laura Silsby, and although she didn't have to serve any more time than she already had, in the WikiLeaks emails we saw that she was very concerned for her well-being, and She is, for all intents and purposes, not in the United States, but in Haiti, convicted as a child trafficker with intent to traffic them in, I guess, sex slavery.
She has changed her name from Laura Silsby.
She's now Laura Gallier, and she works at AlertSense, who do the Amber Alerts, which is where you want to be if you're into child trafficking.
Hey, I got an Amber Alert.
It's over there.
Yeah, yeah, look over there.
That's why Child Protective Services, while very good often, you find a lot of this going on there.
I know I'm not overstepping my bounds by saying this.
So that was never mentioned in this report from Pete.
No one ever brought any of this up, of course.
But let's listen to it.
There was a lot of reporting out of Congo and the Central Africa Republic about another wave of allegations against UN peacekeepers, so we decided to take a look at the numbers going back to 2004 when the first wave of allegations came out against peacekeepers, and that's what got us started.
From there, we just counted the number of allegations per year that the UN had reported.
You've zoomed in on Haiti and started to look at almost a pattern of behavior here.
What happened there?
Haiti has been singled out as being a country where a lot of these abuses have occurred, an unusually high number given the total of 2,000.
So we just went to look and see what we could find out in Haiti.
We compiled the numbers.
We found 150 cases.
We found a lot of cases involving children.
And as we were doing the reporting, we have a team in Haiti and we sent it.
Our investigative reporter Paisley Dodds to Haiti and eventually we stumbled across this internal report, investigative report from the UN which chronicled this amazing tale of children that were in a sex ring that was abused and were abused by UN peacekeepers over a three-year period.
It was nine children abused by 134 UN peacekeepers.
These children were paid sometimes, what, a few pennies or a dollar at a time for sex acts?
Yes.
There was food, yogurt, juice given to the children who were hungry, and that's why they did this.
The lowest amount we found was 75 cents, and the highest amount was $20.
On the one hand, the UN conducts what you call a thorough investigation, but then what happens after that?
You know, that's what's curious.
It was really a very good investigation by the UN. They went to the children.
They made sure that the children were not making it up.
The children actually spoke signoles, which was very telling.
They showed pictures of a thousand peacekeepers to the children, and the children identified various locations where they had sex with these or were forced to have sex or lured into having sex by these peacekeepers.
So it was really quite a good investigation.
What happened after that investigation is what typically happens at the UN and is one of the reasons why this is such an important study or case study.
The problem is that the UN is in a legal bind.
As you said when you opened this segment, it does not have jurisdiction over any of these countries.
So the deal is, here's our investigative report.
Now it's time for Sri Lanka to come in and take a look at this report.
And in this case, Sri Lanka did.
114 of the soldiers were sent home.
What happened after that is anybody's guess.
There's no accountability, there are no names of any of these people, and nobody ever went to jail.
So, if you can imagine these kinds of corroborated crimes against children over a three-year period corroborated by a UN investigative team, and then nothing happens.
Well, here is my problem with Paisley.
Paisley has been working on this for three years, and all of a sudden we, oh, even though nothing's been done, yeah, let's just come out right now and talk about how horrible the UN is.
We didn't really even do that when they brought cholera to Haiti, the Blue Helmets, barely.
But now we have a big story.
Why?
Well, would you know that most of the reporting in 2011, 2010 on Laura Silsby was done by Paisley Dodd?
Why does she not mention Paisley Dodd anymore?
I'm thinking something was going to come out.
This Amber Alert situation was annoying.
She's friends with Hillary.
And if you do this whole report, but you don't mention Laura Silsby, who was arrested and convicted, charged with child kidnapping and criminal association.
You're not putting that in your report.
You're a shill for Hillary Clinton.
And I would not argue the point.
I think you nailed it.
And I would like to point out that ClintonBodyCout.com now points to NoAgendaShow.com.
Very proud of that.
Good.
This is...
This stinks.
Why did Paisley Dodd not mention any of that in her reporting?
Well, you know, it may have been something she would have mentioned, but maybe PBS put the kibosh on it.
I looked at her reports.
It's not in there.
Okay.
Prior to PBS. Okay.
Yes.
Well, it's very suspicious then.
I don't like it.
You see this as a cover-up, actually.
A funny kind of a reverse cover-up.
A distraction.
A distraction cover-up.
Of course.
A distraction.
Yeah.
Get it over to the UN. Let's talk about the UN. UN, UN, UN, UN. They knew.
They're horrible.
You had the reporting on Laura Sealsby, and you really didn't do much with that anymore, did you?
All right.
All right.
I'm all over that because it's my two favorite topics.
And by the way, we're all the Pizzagate people on this.
Yeah.
Where are we?
I don't know what happened to them.
Okay, I have one last thing since you were going to do that one.
No, I have one final one too.
You want to do yours last or you want me to do mine last?
Oh, wow.
Wait, wait, wait.
I know what to do.
Alexa, call it.
Wait, shut up.
I got your heads.
What was that?
That was, who let the dogs out came back on when you said heads.
I don't know what happened.
Heads.
Alexa, flip a coin.
Tails.
I win.
All right, here we go.
You get to go first.
This is, now we know the Millens all love Maxine.
That's right, got to keep my Maxine clip for the last bit.
All the Millens love the Maxine, and I have, from Salon Magazine, the top five.
What?
Yeah, the MW. The MW. Yeah, the MW. Here's a Malin, a Black Malin from Salon, telling us the top five reasons why LMW should be the President of the United States.
I'm D-Walkins here with the Salon Five, and today we're going to give you five reasons why Maxine Waters should be our next president.
Number five, Maxine understands the people.
She's the fifth of 13 children, and she started working in segregated restaurants at the age of 13, so you know, hard work is in her blood.
Number four, Maxine Waters has an amazing reputation of being a fearless, outspoken advocate for women, the poor, children, people of color, pretty much everybody that was left out of the Trump campaign.
Fighting for what's right is not a new thing to Maxine Waters.
Before she was even elected to Congress, she was out there on the front lines fighting against divestment from the South African apartheid regime.
Number three, Maxine was actually one of the few people who was against the war in Iraq.
And that's something that Clinton, Bush, Trump, McCain, and all those people did.
Number two, she loves the millennials and we love her back.
Last week she confessed her love for us on Now This where she talked about everything she's learning from us and how she has to evolve with the people.
She's learning the language.
She's using the internet and we're all moving forward because of that.
The number one reason why we want Maxine Ward is to be our next president because she's not afraid to attack the right.
She's had tough words for everybody from Bill O'Reilly all the way up to the White House.
Maxine Waters is one of the only few Democrats that are stepping up.
She's not scared to talk about Trump, his ties to Russia, and letting him know, in her own words, bombing another country does not make you presidential.
These are tough times, and in tough times, you need a tough leader.
That's why I nominate Maxine Waters to be our next president.
Because again, Maxine Waters let you know that she is a strong black woman, and she will not be intimidated.
So neither should you.
Maxine.
Yeah!
Step away from the crackpot.
That's right.
Those days are over.
Let me just hear the chorus.
There you go.
That was all the work I put in last night to make that fit perfectly.
Dynamite.
Hit the post.
Alright, now, since it's a semi-similar topic, we talked about on the show, I think Maxine would have something to say, which is the idea that women get interrupted a lot, and there's different ways of preventing this, and it seems that the big move right now is just to keep talking.
Since cameras are not allowed when the Supreme Court's in session, picturing interactions among the justices can be a challenge.
But a new study co-authored by Northwestern law professor Tanya Jacoby suggests they might be more familiar than you'd think.
Female justices are interrupted about three times as often as male justices.
This was 2013, Fisher v.
The University of Texas, a case about race and college admissions.
Justice Sonia Sotomayor was questioning lawyer Bert Rine when she was interrupted by Justice Scalia.
Do you think...
The change has to happen overnight.
Can I hear what you were about to say?
What are those numbers?
I was really curious to hear those numbers.
While the justices sometimes cut each other off, lawyers are never supposed to.
Not the way Ryan then did with Sotomayor.
The holistic percentage, whatever it is, is going to be virtually all white.
And that is an assumption that has no basis in this record.
Here we have even subordinates, clear subordinates, i.e.
lawyers, interrupting justices who have reached the highest pinnacle of a very high-status profession.
There are a few strategies.
Heidi Moore runs the digital magazine Ladders, exploring workplace issues, and she says all women can learn from those on the court.
The female justices just keep talking.
Instead of saying, excuse me, or this is my time now, or I'm making a point, they just keep talking until they steamroll the interrupter, and the interrupter backs off.
A golden rule of sorts, treat the interrupters as they treated you, applied to balance the scales of a workplace conversation.
Jim Axelrod, CBS News, New York.
Yeah, that fits in perfectly.
If you recall the women discussing Tucker Carlson when he talked to the Teen Vogue reporter.
Yeah, they were all talking at the same time.
Yeah, that's good.
But they're encouraging that.
They're saying, yes, that's good.
You just got to keep talking.
Just got to keep talking right through.
Just keep talking.
Now, of course, we've analyzed.
First of all, let's back up and mention something.
It wasn't all these justices.
You didn't hear any.
It was Sotomayor.
It wasn't Kagan, it wasn't Bader, it was Sotomayor.
If you listen to Sotomayor, she's incredibly dull and boring and needs to be interrupted.
In the first case where she was interrupted by Scalia, which was a long time ago because he's dead, the guy who was testifying had something to say with some numbers and some stats.
And she basically stopped him to go on to some long-winded bull crap that Scalia said, no, I want to hear these numbers.
You cut this guy off.
Right.
I don't see that as a bad thing.
She's not very interesting.
The other thing, which is the talking and talking thing, I still think that what we've determined, which is the very loud and impulse.
And, you know, if Sotomayor in that case where the lawyer was interrupting her and you can say something different.
But if she had said, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, I am.
Are you are you trying to ruin the case for your client by interrupting me when I've got the floor and I'm trying to finish a thought and you're just interrupting me?
Is this your idea of decorum?
And just shoot the guy out.
Don't you think?
Yes, of course.
But no, she didn't do that.
She's horrible.
This is not a great example for young women everywhere.
No.
She has the floor.
She owns the floor.
She can stop the proceedings, shoo the guy out, claim that he's a lousy lawyer for doing this, for hurting the case.
He can talk after she's done and make his points then, which is what he's supposed to do anyway.
But no, she's a pushover.
She's not a good justice.
All right.
That will do it for this show.
Wow, a lot of excitement, John.
A lot of excitement.
Just so, I mean, thought you were dead.
All kinds of excitement.
It might happen.
It won't happen on this show, Bo.
It's going to happen in the saddle.
All I know is I was like, oh, damn, I'm glad I'm learning how to day trade.
All right, everybody.
We will return, of course, on Sunday.
Sunday.
Sunday.
Yes, that will be the 15th.
It should be a reminder in the United States of Gitmo Nation free taxes.
But until then, I'd like to remember Dvorak.org slash NA is where you can support our program if you want to help out with the best podcast in the universe.
Until then, coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, the capital of the Drone Star State, in the skyscraper, crackpot con, that'll be exact, FEMA Region 6 on the government maps in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where the show continues, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Sunday, right here, on No Agenda.
Until then, you know what we say.
Adios, mofos!
Mr.
Trump, have you ever used cocaine?
Many, many lines.
Like so many Americans, the election moved us, a group of progressive graduate students at Harvard, to ask ourselves, how can we most effectively fight Trump's agenda?
We came up with Resisting School.
We came up with Resisting School.
We came up with Resisting School.
We came up with Resisting School.
Even you, Tim.
I am tempted at night.
I'm guided by the beauty of that night.
I kept some stuff and now 20 babies are probably destroyed some stuff.
I kept some stuff and now 20 babies are dead.
I probably destroyed some stuff and now 20 babies are probably destroyed some stuff.
I am tempted.
Even beautiful, chemical babies.
What can you do with chemical babies?
Even beautiful, chemical babies.
Let's start this conversation.
I just can't see those images.
I find them incredibly distressing.
I'm not alone.
I know for our audience.
They're just covering their faces.
The thing is that our tears are lost.
We can't notice chemicals, chemical babies.
There can be no chemical babies.
There can be no just even beautiful, chemical babies.
Even beautiful, babies are dead.
Chemical, even beautiful, chemical babies.
There can be no babies.
I'm probably, probably some stuff.
We can start this conversation.
I just can't see those images.
We find them incredibly distressing.
I'm not alone.
It's rough.
It can't bring their faces.
I am tempted.
Guided by the night.
I am.
I am that night.
I am.
I am tempted and guided by the beauty of our weapons.
Splash at night.
Splash at night.
I hate gay people.
Don't take that out of context.
I didn't say that.
Don't take that out of context.
This isn't South Park, folks.
Kanye West.
Adios, mofo.
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How was that?
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