This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9-er-1-3.
This is No Agenda.
Hop-nobbing with the no-agenda elites and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in southern Silicon Valley in the fortress known as Shea Foley.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm not in a fortress, I'm not in a Shea, and I'm not in a Shea's lounge, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
On his feet as usual.
Nice.
You nailed it.
It was good.
Yeah.
All on the fly.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
How does he do it?
How does he do it?
Well, everybody in the morning, coming to you from the fortress here in southern Silicon Valley.
I'm talking about fortress.
Okay.
You're at Foley's mansion.
I am.
That's the fortress.
Yeah.
Yes.
You were at the fortress as well.
Yes.
I showed up last night to say hello, to do my part.
Yeah.
Meet the meet and greet?
Yeah.
Got to meet the lovely Tina?
Yes.
And you know what?
I, of course, missed the meeting.
Dr.
Livingstone, I presume.
And Tina said that you came right in and she stuck out her hand and you said, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to be hugging tonight.
Exactly.
We're in California.
She's, you know, she's...
And besides, I... I know her virtually for years.
Yeah, well, this is true.
This is true.
So hugging is acceptable.
Even though in California, of course, hugging is acceptable in all situations.
Yes, of course.
And if you don't like it, move out of the state.
Some people don't like it.
Hugging?
Yeah.
California hugging.
Just gratuitous bullcrap hugging.
Well, it's not like where I grew up where we have to do three kisses.
Oh, yeah, the three kisses.
Yeah, the Dutch are three kisses.
Well, in Brazil, it's two.
Brazil is two kisses.
France, I think, is just one.
But in Holland, men also kiss each other goodbye with three kisses, if they know each other, if they know each other, not just like, hey, thanks for the...
Well, and in Saudi Arabia, they give themselves a big wet kiss on the lips, men.
Yeah.
Yeah, you see a picture of George Bush.
I think you see these pictures.
They're hard to catch because they don't let photographers do it, but these Arabs don't want to give you a big kiss.
Well, I have to say, you were kind of the hit of the party, John.
First of all, you came from farthest.
You drove an hour and a half to come here.
That was appreciated by all.
Yes, that's a long way.
And everyone thought your sketchers were great and your hoodie was on point.
As you noticed, no one else was dressed in a hoodie for the party, but you were on point.
No, no.
I was the hoodie one.
It was one of the South Dakota State University, one of their football...
They won this NCAA championship five years in a row, and every year one of the alumni sends me a hoodie.
And that was their third...
That was one of the better ones.
It got a huge logo on it.
Yeah, I thought...
I carefully considered that outfit.
Yeah.
It was apparent.
Should I wear this hoodie or should I wear that hoodie?
Then, of course, you left exactly after two hours.
And how do I know this?
You said, okay, I'm going to leave now.
And Tina said, oh, you're leaving.
And John, you apparently said to her, yeah, it's been exactly two hours.
I'm going home now.
Had you pre-planned that?
Two hours was your budget?
I had a time I wanted to get back by so I could finish my clips.
Oh, okay.
Show prep.
This is true.
Oh, yeah.
And I had to entertain the troops here until two in the morning.
Yeah, I'm sure you're in great shape.
Oh, yeah.
So you brought a number of...
And thank you very much.
Over the past, what, two and a half year period since we've seen each other?
Right.
Which, by the way, everyone notices and say, you know, you guys haven't seen each other for two and a half years.
And now, well, but how come you're not like talking and hanging out together?
We're sick of each other.
Yeah.
I talk to him all the time.
Yeah, yeah.
We talk for three hours twice a week, six hours a week.
I don't think there's much to catch up on.
And boy, I'm sorry, man.
This 9 a.m.
start time on a Sunday, I'd forgotten about that.
You know, I'm Mr.
11 a.m.
in Austin.
9 a.m.
is a little...
Yeah, you gotta get up at 7.
Why do we do this?
Well, this is a point that we're going to discuss today because I forgot why we set this particular time.
I remember.
I think I remember.
This was like 10 years ago we decided to do it at this hour.
Yeah.
And when I was in Los Angeles, I was also...
I remember now how much I hated it because I have to get up at 6 or 5 actually to do prep and stuff and to be ready.
I do pre-prep at the night and then I get some sleep and I do two hours in the morning.
Yeah.
So I did a little bit of...
Well, I was doing prep all day yesterday before the party started and then I got up early this morning.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, it's because of the Australian listeners.
What time is it right now in Australia?
I have no idea.
I think it's late or early.
I think we chose the time.
I don't think this is true.
What you're saying now is the ring of bell.
I think we chose the time so that it was either so Australian listeners could listen live or so by the time the show was uploaded, they had it in the morning.
It was something like that.
Okay, how about this for an idea?
Now that you brought this bogus point up, it's now coming to me.
Let's see if I can find my keyboard first.
It's near that big giant remote we gave you.
Australian time, yes, it's very good.
Australian time right now is...
What is it now, 3.30 a.m.?
Maybe that's too early.
It's sometime...
Wait a minute, hold on a second.
Alexa, what time is it in Sydney?
3.30 in the morning.
3.30 in Canberra and 3 elsewhere and 2.30 some other places.
Adelaide, it's 3.
Maybe that wasn't why we did it then.
No, I know why we did it now.
Oh, okay.
It was the best compromise because when we started the show, you were in London.
Oh, yes.
And it would be 6 p.m.
my time.
Yes.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Okay, mystery solved.
Yeah, you were in London, and I was here, and that was the best time where I could actually manage it.
I could manage to get up at 7, and you weren't getting too late into the evening.
That's right, that's right.
So you could do the show and still go out.
So here's, some people were talking, after you left, people had some comments.
Thought maybe you'd like to hear them.
Sure.
The main thing was actually, and Tina, she almost couldn't get over this.
She's like, John sounds different in person.
Huh.
And I had to think about it.
I mean, it sounds the same to me.
I mean, obviously, you know, we've got you boosted with the voice of God to give you balls.
Hello.
Hello.
But I think it's because you don't project as much in person.
You're soft-spoken.
You're not a loud guy.
Oh, okay.
I think it's just soft spot.
Of course, even when you hear your voice on tape for the first time, your own voice sounds different, so maybe it's just different.
I don't know.
It's different.
Now, you brought along a whole bunch of goodies that you had kept.
You know, some challenge coins.
And, of course, my favorite, the I'm a Podcaster Ask Me About My Podcast button.
The greatest button ever made.
So, I really should have worn it sooner because I walk, you know, there was the bar area and I walk up and Tina's talking to one of the guests.
And I hear Tina say, yeah, no, Adam invented podcasting.
And Michelle.
And Michelle goes, oh, yeah, like Al Gore invented the internet?
What?
There is your legacy right there in that show.
I invented podcasting, just like Al Gore invented the internet.
Boom.
Yeah, boom.
No time wasted.
This is in the sunny villa of Los Gatos.
Yes, yes, yes.
Anyway, it's been great.
The Grand Duke and his wife would be the...
What is the married...
If you're married to a Grand Duke, what are you?
The wife of the Grand Duke.
Yes, yes, that's correct.
All right, I just want to start with...
Well, you know, he can get her a Duchess, a Grand Duchess.
It's a thought.
I mean, it is the gift that keeps on giving.
It's worth considering.
I hadn't thought about that one.
Hey, amidst all of the fun stuff, though, I've been getting messages from our military sources.
Yeah, apparently there's a big buildup of U.S. troops right now in Kuwait.
And Kuwait is always a staging area.
When I went to Iraq, we had to fly to Kuwait City first and then drive.
It was like seven or eight hours driving up to where the Camp Smitty was in Samoa province.
And he says there's a big build-up, and I'm thinking, okay, does that mean Iraq?
And he says, yeah, it could be, but it's also where they're staged for Afghanistan.
But then I get this report, and there's a lot of reports like it, and I'm starting to get a little worried about the rebelization factor in the Middle East.
Moving on.
A Syrian surface-to-air missile has been shot down by Israel this Friday.
That's the first time the Tel Aviv government has used its advanced Aero anti-missile technology.
It comes as tensions are ratched up between the two neighbors.
After Israel carried out a string of airstrikes on Syrian soil, the Assad regime has deployed air defense systems and fired several missiles targeting Israeli jets in retaliation.
Things heating up.
So I wonder if it's for Syria?
I haven't gotten any answers, by the way.
And I don't think anyone knows, but there's a buildup.
I don't think they know either.
They're probably just being staged.
It could be just to completely, you know, stop the fighting in Mosul.
We're getting humiliated there.
By the fact that we're killing so many civilians.
And then now recently we blew up a mosque that they're trying to deny.
Um...
It's just the only thing that's blown up.
But let's play a couple of these clips and try to catch up on this Mosul situation because the RT people, of course, are giving us the needle about it.
Is this the Mosul versus Aleppo?
Yes, try that.
...on these precise or these exact allegations.
I can only say that...
And by the way, isn't it odd to have Mark Toner still as the spokeshole for the State Department?
I love it.
I mean, it's like a dimension A, dimension B in one block, you know?
Yeah, I like it.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
...on these precise or these exact allegations.
I can only say that, you know, we stand by what we said before, which is we take every effort in carrying out our own airstrikes, but also in sharing information with Iraqi security forces to, obviously, to avoid civilian casualties.
I just don't have any sense of whether these are credible numbers or not.
I just can't answer it.
The State Department saying it has no visibility on the situation with civilians in Mosul is raising questions considering the fact that the U.S. is involved in the operations to retake Mosul from ISIL. Related to that, here's another question I asked the State Department.
I remember on Aleppo, the State Department cited monitoring groups and credible organizations like John Kirby would say to talk about civilian suffering in Aleppo.
What information do you have from monitoring groups and credible organizations I think there's UN organizations on the ground obviously dealing with refugees fleeing the city.
I'd have to get back to you on what are the monitoring groups.
And again, it's not that there aren't some there.
I just don't have precise details.
So, the State Department spokesman did not appear to be immediately aware of what monitoring organizations say about the plight of civilians in Mosul.
Meanwhile, the Air Wars monitoring group raised alarm about hundreds reported killed just within a week.
Since the assault first on East Mosul and then West Mosul began, we have seen just a remarkable change at Mosul, moving from tens of civilians reported killed to hundreds reported killed.
We're seeing worse numbers now in Mosul than we did during Aleppo.
300 civilians died in just two neighbourhoods of Mosul in the 24-hour period as a result of airstrikes.
We didn't see that level of death in Aleppo.
Yet we did, during the final stages of Aleppo, in fact, all through the Aleppo siege, we saw significant international media coverage.
So why is there this difference?
Why does international media not want to engage on civilian casualties in Mosul?
Who are all these so-called expert sources that this report claims have this information?
Nobody has any information.
Thank you.
But nobody wants any information.
Apparently, if you play part two of this clip, they try to get somebody to talk about this from all these organizations and they all refuse to talk about any of it.
We asked a number of journalist organizations to comment on the coverage of the situation in Mosul.
Here are some of the responses we received.
The organisation investigative reporters and editors told us that it declines to participate in this story.
Other groups said they had nothing to say on the matter and referred us to the International Federation of Journalists.
It told us that the situation in Mosul is difficult for civilians, adding that it was sure the human suffering in Mosul was being covered adequately.
So nobody's covering it.
But they weren't covering Aleppo either.
RT had somebody there.
And then they took a bunch of reports after the...
The situation ended and then kind of got a debriefing on what might have happened.
And when they say coalition forces, does that mean us?
Does it mean the Turks?
It's us.
It's us.
Sure, it's not the Turks.
It can't be the Turks.
Let it be the Turks.
Not in Iraq.
So they have...
Nobody covers this because it's too dangerous, so no reporters are going to do any of this stuff.
There's a couple of things I noticed.
I mean, what RT's bitching about is that it looks as if Aleppo was covered, even though it wasn't really covered either.
But they dreamed up bullcrap stories about Aleppo, and they ran them, and they went nuts about them, because it was the Russians.
They just blamed the Russians for everything.
And the same thing's going on here, but nobody's doing the bullcrap story.
Well, whose fault is that?
It's the Russians' fault.
I mean, we, let's, okay, let's take it from a perspective of propaganda.
We have a point to make.
So we have a, you know, so we got this situation going on in Aleppo.
We make our point by just pretty much making up stories and getting everybody to run these stories.
The Russians, these experts in propaganda, as we're led to believe, they can't seem to do the same thing except grouse on RT. Hmm.
But they're the best at it.
They have more money than we do in propaganda.
I can't believe that.
And here's another thing that should be noted.
And I think that everyone's starting to do this, because I noticed this during the campaign, you'd see more and more of this.
And Gayanne, she does this the best.
She makes herself part of the story.
She says, I asked Toner another question.
Then they show a shot of her asking a question and then Toner answering it.
We don't see anyone doing that with the AP. We don't see Matt going on about how he asked the question.
You know, by the way, where is Matt Lee?
I think he's on vacation.
So, anyway, or Bender.
Yeah.
But I noticed this during the campaign where these different reporters would have a camera on them as they yelled out a question.
And so I think we're going to see more and more of that, so the reporters are more part of the story.
Isn't that exactly what you're not taught to do in J's school?
Isn't that the antithesis of being a journalist?
If you're Hunter Thompson, that's what you're supposed to do.
It's a reference to something called gonzo journalism, where the reporter is part of the story, but generally speaking, it's bad form.
But I think, I'm predicting right now you're going to see more and more of it because...
Interesting.
What happens is that you do that and you get more money.
Yeah.
Good work there, Bill.
I saw you in that report because most of the time you should be doing these things semi-anonymously.
You should be just doing an objective reporting based on what you hear and what you piece together.
You don't make yourself part of the story.
But the people who do, they'll be getting more money because they're making it.
Look at me!
Look at me!
You're just going to see this.
You watch.
In addition to that, I was going to mention that we now also have 300 armored vehicles, Challenger 2 tanks, all UK military deployment to Estonia, which took place over this weekend.
Yeah, Estonia, Poland's got a bunch of people.
That's not very friendly.
No!
It's kind of F-Russia.
And you know what, John?
I'm worried.
I'm getting kind of...
I caught this...
Let me see if I can find it here.
Well, first of all, just to remind you of how nuts it is right now in the United States of Gitmo Nation government, where you have one senator accusing the other of working for Vladimir Putin directly.
A little reminder of that exchange.
So I repeat again.
The senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin.
The senator from Kentucky.
I object.
And he walks off.
Yes.
Oh, a little projection.
No expense spared here on the No Agenda show.
But there was...
So now we have these sessions going on on the Hill about Russian influence in global democracies, in fact.
And this starts off with Senator Leahy, who...
I just left him in because the way he dugs is so funny and so slow.
But then, wait for the kicker as Lindsey Graham comes in and what he really wants and how he really feels about Russia as it pertains to their influence in global democracy.
Now, there are five witnesses, the typical shills, the people we don't...
I mean, they're from think tanks and all kinds of organizations, so I don't have to tell you who they are.
You know how it works.
You bring in people who are going to give you the answers you want, and that's why you ask the questions that are set up and pre-approved and written.
Well, the best ones, of course, we should...
Sorry for stepping on that, but I haven't heard these clips, but I would assume that Lindsey Graham does his normal...
Do you agree with me that?
No, it's better than that.
So it's Leahy who's asking some questions, and then...
I edited this down, of course, because it's just too much bullcrap and pauses, but then he's the chairman of this particular committee, of this...
Graham?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's the chairman of this one, the Russian Influence in Global Democracies.
I'm not sure how he...
It may be part of the committee he's on, but...
They make these committees up as they go along.
Okay.
So he doesn't do a question, he actually just states something.
Let me sort of close with this shit.
NATO's been mentioned.
Listen to him, listen to him.
Sorry, I got a frog in my throat.
No, no, something else is wrong with him, listen.
Let me close with this.
NATO's been mentioned here.
I had a really big lunch.
So the topic is NATO here as well.
Let me close with this.
I can't get over that.
What is wrong with him?
Let me close with this.
NATO's been mentioned here.
I think we'd all agree that...
NATO is important if there's unity, but there's also has to be within NATO and understand that the United States stands.
Does this, if they see the United States being able to be manipulated by Russia, does that...
Sounds plastered.
Maybe he had a stroke.
I don't think so.
Maybe just a three martini lunch.
I mean, we can start calling him Mr.
Phlegm, but he's not a...
I mean, normally, even when he's all phlegmy, he enunciates a little better than this.
He's bad.
All right, here we go.
Within NATO and understand that the United States stands.
Does this, if they see the United States being able to be manipulated by Russia, Does that sow doubts in NATO? Well, I don't think we believe that the United States is being manipulated by Russia.
But if we reach a point...
You hear that?
Did you hear that?
Yeah, he's being honest.
Yeah, so let's not stop and question that.
Let's move on.
The United States is being manipulated by Russia.
But if we reach a point that we did, I guess we'd be pretty nervous.
Do you think this operation of Russia was a one-time operation, or do you think we might see this?
The guy just said, we're not being manipulated.
I'm not quite sure why he thinks there's still an operation.
Maybe he's referring to the DNCC hack.
...operation, or do you think we might see this in the future?
The operation regarding the 2016 election?
Absolutely, Senator Leahy.
They're going to be emboldened by the extent to which they had an effect on the election, whether they affected the outcome of the election.
They had an effect on the course of the election.
It's caused a lot of disruption.
They're going to be emboldened by that.
They're going to come back even stronger next time.
They're going to perfect their techniques.
And other countries like North Korea, Iran, China, are going to get on the back.
Yeah, I know.
The Russians are taking over the world with RT. Hold on a second.
With RT. With RT. Let's start.
Let's start with, no, North Korea.
Yeah.
They're going to hack their elections.
They're going to hack their computer systems.
They don't even have the internet there.
Do they even have elections?
They don't have elections.
What am I thinking?
What?
They haven't got elections.
They haven't got computers.
They haven't got an internet.
But they're going to go hack them.
And influence the election.
So the other guy will win.
Yeah, the other guy, Kim Jong-un, too.
They're going to come back even stronger next time.
They're going to perfect their techniques.
And other countries like North Korea, Iran, China are going to get on the bandwagon and do the same.
Yes, sir, Senator Lee.
I just want to let you know that the French election, I believe, is in the April runoff would be in May.
Is that correct?
First round, April 23rd.
Second round, May 7th.
I think it's important that the Congress take some kind of action on our bipartisan legislation to punish Russia for interfering in our election before the French elections.
And Germany is in September, Zach.
September 23rd.
I view an attack on one party in the United States and an attack on all parties by a foreign entity.
We need a kind of an Article 5 response here.
Yeah, we need an Article 5 response.
What's an Article 5 response?
That's NATO's Article 5.
An attack on one is an attack on all.
He's comparing...
Oh, he's an idiot, this guy.
He's comparing the bogus attack that the Russians probably didn't even do because what was the point?
Yeah.
Against the Hillary Clinton campaign and John Podesta, who had the password of...
Password!
Well, here's the sad thing.
What is happening now in Dimension B? There is an entire story that has been built, and this is the technical explanation, of course.
This may make it into the New York Times, but you take a couple layers down and you get Donna Brazile, who, of course, is a part of this dimension, And she was on The Daily Show.
And you think it's nuts for Lindsey Graham to equate this to a NATO-based Article 5, an attack on one is an attack on all, let's go nuke Russia response?
She's taking it one step.
I mean, just listen.
Who was serving as the acting chair after Debbie Wasserman Schultz left.
Was thrown out.
The DNC. That is a thankless job.
Second time.
Okay, the first.
A thankless job.
Did you hear this woman?
You're the chairman.
It's a thankless job.
I wouldn't want her as my chairwoman, chairperson.
She thinks that way.
Left the DNC. That is a thankless job.
Second time.
Okay, the first time I was chair, it was like over the Easter break.
And it was really nice.
But this time, it was over the break from hell.
Because the Russians invaded us.
What?
Wait, it gets better.
I just wanted to pause so you could prepare yourself for what's coming next.
Hell, because the Russians invaded us.
Did you know that it was the Russians at that time, or did you just know you had been hacked?
I was told initially that we were hacked by hostile foreign power, and I'm like, okay, who?
And then later, when I received my brief, and I received a really thorough view and picture of what was going on, and it really, at one point, I was just fearful, because think about it.
I mean, I've gone up against Republicans, I've gone up against Libertarians, Independents, but I've never gone up against a hostile military force.
Were they sitting outside her door?
With AK-47s.
Hey, Donna Brazil.
Force.
And how do you run a campaign when you have somebody not only going into your emails, but ripping through all your files, harassing your donors, harassing your staff every day?
So, first of all...
I don't recall reports of harassment.
I don't recall.
No.
I think that would have been reported by the liberal media.
Yeah.
Ripping through your documents, harassing your staff, harassing your donors.
Isn't that what you do, Donna Brazile?
Don't you harass donors for more money?
Isn't that your job?
Yeah.
Send three dollars.
Harassing your staff.
No, no.
Chip in.
Chip in.
Every day.
So, first of all, this is the truth you're running with.
But this is the...
But to get the real truth, you've got to come to me, because I know the truth.
Oh, she knows the truth.
Are you going to write a book?
Hell yeah!
Oh, yeah!
She's going to write a book!
We want the truth.
The truth is that politics is a hard fought game.
And when you're in a battle of fighting to make sure that you have inclusion, to make sure you have diversity, to make sure that you have the kind of, not just communication, but the kind of conversation with voters, you want to make sure that those questions, those topics, that is out there.
Whatever.
I'm not quite sure what she meant by that last bit.
She finally admitted she was a douchebag after lying and lying and lying.
Yeah, I know.
It's really quite amazing how we all know what she did.
She took questions from the CNN town hall, which was like a real debate situation, and gave them to Hillary.
I mean, the pass this woman gets is amazing.
She should be blackballed.
It's like the Brian Williams passive power.
Does everyone get to you?
Lie?
Fine.
Who cares?
Fake news.
Fake news.
I guess finding decent news readers that are pleasant looking is not that easy.
I don't know.
I float around the country.
I watch all the local news when I go there, and I see a lot of people that look like they'd be fine on the network.
So Donna Brazillo, so she's going to write a book.
I can't wait for that.
There's another, actually there's a film out about President Obama.
And I think it's kind of like a documentary, and this guy Jesse Williams, who I think narrated the film, was on CBS this morning.
Now, and this really, this, I probably should have put this under alternate universes.
Well, you helped me determine, I think it's an alternate universe story here.
So, this film tries to describe President Obama and how fantastic he is, was as President Obama.
Another hagiography.
But what's interesting is, I would argue, and I'm setting it up this way for a specific reason, I would argue that Trump was elected by people who liked him a lot for his way to communicate, his way to message.
So the guy that's on is Jesse?
Jesse Williams.
Yes.
He's an actor.
He's in Grey's Anatomy.
Yes.
And he's an activist actor.
So he's one of those guys.
A loud mouth is the way to put it.
A loud mouth, yeah.
And if he ever wins an Academy Award, he'll make the show go long.
Yeah, exactly.
People who voted for Trump...
Most of them will say, oh, he just communicates the way I like to hear it.
The communication style was, without a doubt, a big point in this election.
But then you listen to what Jesse Williams is about to say here, and you can apply it to either dimension, to either universe, except here, of course, it only works with President Obama.
Let's see if my setup makes sense when you hear the clip.
What's the essence of the process?
By the way, what's the essence of the...
Charlie Rose.
What is your sexuality?
What's your sexuality?
It's in your DNA. What's the essence of the process?
Writing these speeches?
I think it has to be born out of an authentic, not only interest and passion for them.
I'm sorry, I should probably say this is about President Obama's speech writing capability, as if he writes them all himself, obviously not.
What does he write any of his speeches?
I'm sure he's responsible for it.
The process.
Writing these speeches?
Yeah.
I think it has to be born out of an authentic...
He doesn't know, he just says, I think it has to be this, it has to be that?
Stay tuned.
Interest and passion for the material, but information.
You have to have some wisdom and experience, and intellect matters, despite popular opinion these days.
You have to have some intellectual heft around it.
You have to have some intellectual heft.
These issues will be surrounded by people who do, to be both interested and informed on a topic.
You know, it's interesting that you say that, too, because, you know, he clearly has the gift, as people said, as the order in chief, you know.
But his writing, too, was a way to move people.
He tried to use his ways to try and make people understand.
Yeah, I think that...
And a teaching element.
Yes, a teaching element.
This is Good Morning America.
There's...
What's her name?
No, no, no.
It's CBS This Morning.
It's not Good Morning.
I mean, that's what I meant.
CBS This Morning, and that's...
Yeah.
Yeah, but please notice that it's a teaching.
He has a gift.
He has a gift.
It's a teaching element.
He was teaching us...
Yes, a teaching element.
Yeah, and anybody can recite words, right?
But there is a connectivity to being able to really understand who and what you're talking about and being able to frame it in a way that is relatable, that people can see themselves in the experience and use kind of key words and vocabulary that relax people, disarm people, and make them set a table.
Thanks, Obama.
Yeah.
Only Obama could do that.
Why don't you just lay it on hip boots to stand through this bull crap.
So was that an alternate universe?
I think it was the alternate universe speaking to itself in that little group there, because that group is all dimension B. Parallel universes.
We're straddling.
Parallel universes.
How nice is that one?
It's good.
You know who this is?
You're going to do this?
Fletcher.
Oh, yeah.
Fletcher seems to have a lot of talent.
It's amazing.
Besides screaming.
Yeah.
That's fantastic.
By the way, as birthday presents now, I just asked Fletcher to do a shout out for my friends and send it to him as a ringtone.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Fletcher's got Fletcher's Fletcher.
What can I say?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
I think that's it.
Yeah, I think that was all.
I think it was.
I think you're right in your assertion.
These guys are just blowing smoke up each other's butts, as I like to say.
Yeah.
Now, of course, being here, we left right after the show Thursday, so I haven't seen a lot of the mainstream news because we were just, you know, honestly goofing off.
But what has the reporting been on Angela Merkel's visit and conference with the president?
I have some clips.
Very good.
Now, the thing was is that I think it was a very successful – everyone says, well, it was kind of a success for Merkel.
This is what the analysis comes down to.
It was kind of a wash for Trump.
They wouldn't give him credit for the fact that the one thing that came out of this was Germany coming out and their foreign – I guess the foreign minister or the defense minister, one of them, coming out and saying, yeah, we're going to put a lot more money into NATO. That's all really Trump was bitching about, that they weren't getting the money they deserved.
Right, right.
From the Germans, I mean, only the UK, Poland, and a few countries are paying their fair share.
So the Germans are now coming out and saying, but no media outlet is equating this to anything.
All they're talking about is the handshake.
Oh, I miss this.
Would they do an Illuminati handshake?
No, I'm going to give you the rundown, and then we'll get to the handshake at the end.
So let's see if we've got a Merkel clip that's, I'll have to look here.
Merkle, Merkle, Merkle.
Marine scandal.
Merkle, Merkle, Merkle!
Where's Merkle?
I don't know.
Where's Angela?
I have thoughts on Merkle meeting.
Yeah, let's go with thoughts on Merkle.
Thoughts on Merkle meeting here.
A meeting of the two most influential leaders in the Western world.
Cold weather had delayed an earlier visit, and a frosty atmosphere prevailed as the president and the chancellor posed for photos at the White House.
Say what?
She says frosty.
It was cold.
She couldn't count when it was cold, but now they had a frosty meeting.
Get it?
Oh, you know, I have...
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
I love that.
We used to do that in J-School.
A meeting of the two most influential leaders in the Western world.
Cold weather had delayed an earlier visit and a frosty atmosphere prevailed as the President and the Chancellor posed for photos at the White House.
Trump appeared to decline an invitation for a handshake.
Proceedings then moved behind closed doors for talks on terrorism, the conflict in Ukraine, and defense spending.
Both said they wanted to see fair trade and a fair deal on NATO. I am a trader that wants to see good for everybody worldwide, but I am not an isolationist.
The president underlined how important he thinks NATO is.
It's of prime importance to us, as we said during our summit meeting in Wales.
Germany needs to increase its spending in this area.
They spent more money, but the emphasis on the mainstream media, this was from France 24, which I thought was a little more, at least trying to be a little more objective, except for this clip, which is the follow-up clip on the handshake.
France 24's Gallagher Fenwick spoke to us a little earlier from Washington.
He described more about this rather strange tête-à-tête for us, including that awkward moment.
Merkel offered a handshake for the cameras, and Trump appeared to ignore her.
Now, you saw this, so I can't wait to hear what you thought about this.
Yeah, I watched this thing.
Okay, Merkel was never...
She wasn't like she was left hanging with her hand out there.
People always like to get those photos.
Handshake, you're looking the other way.
Hey, over here, over here.
Wait, wait, wait.
Did they have any video that even looked remotely like that?
No.
They had the two of them.
Here's what went on.
Let's go from the beginning to the end.
First of all, and this was mentioned a little bit, now they think, oh, a new protocol has been established.
A new protocol has been established.
Trump greeted her at the door of the White House.
That's a new protocol right there.
That's what they all said.
They said, oh no, every president's going to have to do that.
What's wrong with that?
That's nice.
There's nothing wrong with it, but they went on and on about it.
But when he did, he gave her a big hearty handshake, everything just short of a California hug.
And so the handshake was there.
Then they sat down in these two chairs and he's all slouched over the way he is to cover up the fact that he's overweight.
And tie's too long.
You know, now that you mention that, the long tie is clearly something he's doing because he wants to make his gut not look as big as it is.
It's a trick.
It's an old guy trick.
It's an old guy.
I didn't even think about it.
You're right.
That's why he has the ties too long because it has to flow over that mound.
Exactly.
So he's got this horrible visual.
So he's there like that and now he's sitting there and the handshake thing started with some two or three reporters yelling, Handshake, handshake, handshake.
Oh, God.
Do you have a clip of that?
We need a clip of that.
Handshake.
If you listen to the first clip, it was in there.
Oh, I didn't hear it.
Right at the beginning?
Yeah, they were yelling handshake.
And so they're yelling handshake, handshake.
You can hear in the background.
And then, of course, they emphasize it on some reports.
But I saw him give her a handshake after the news conference.
Yes!
I saw that.
Here's what I'm thinking.
They have gotten him sitting in those two chairs, and the person's a mile away.
So they have him kind of hunched over, giving a handshake to whoever it is, and they've done this shot over and over with everyone who shows up.
And they're making a mockery out of it because they show these handshakes and they put them on Twitter.
Look at this.
He looks like an idiot making this handshake.
Yeah, he held his hand too long.
He has tiny hands.
Tiny hands.
Tiny hands.
And so I think he just decided to not do those handshakes from the chair.
It looks dumb.
Yeah, and you get ridiculed.
And you get ridiculed.
So why should I do this stupid handshake?
I'm not that stupid.
And they're yelling, handshake, handshake.
She did nothing.
She didn't make a move.
She didn't do anything.
She wasn't like doing it.
She wasn't making a motion for a handshake.
They said she was.
Somebody show me a clip of her doing it.
I have looked at this over and over again, and I've not seen her even.
She doesn't even twitch.
So then they get up and go out, and he welcomes her out, and then at the very end of the whole meeting, there's your handshake, big handshake, and they can get all the pictures they want of that handshake.
They want a specific handshake, and now they're bitching because they're not getting it.
I think the new protocol should be, you know, handshake, peck on the cheek, slap on the ass, boom, good to go.
That would be me.
Yeah, well, all the presidents would have to do that after that.
I actually wanted to, you had a piece in your clip, which I have in a different clip, about fake news, and I just thought it was interesting to hear the German journalist ask a question, then you hear how Trump, she actually asked the question to Merkel and Trump, and then he says, well, let me just jump in here first.
I just thought it was interesting, the whole exchange, I kind of liked.
Thank you very much.
America first.
Don't you think that this is going to weaken also the European Union?
And why are you so scared of diversity in the news and in the media, that you speak so often of fake news and that things, after all, in the end cannot be proven?
For example, the fact that you have been wiretapped by Mr.
Obama.
What was interesting about her is a cute German woman, blondie, and she sits down and she's smiling like, I did it, didn't I? This hub is geschafft.
I asked him about the fake news.
What is he afraid of?
She had a real kind of grin on her face.
And that's why I like Trump's response.
Serpent Wyatt hub by Mr.
Obama.
Go first, too.
Nice, friendly reporter.
First of all, I don't believe in an isolationist policy, but I also believe a policy of trade should be a fair policy.
And the United States has been treated very, very unfairly by many countries over the years, and that's going to stop.
But I'm not an isolationist.
I'm a free trader, but I'm also a fair trader.
And our free trade has led to a lot of bad things happening.
You look at the deficits that we have and you look at all of the accumulation of debt.
We're a very powerful country.
We're a very strong country.
Nice little flub there, huh?
Yeah, that was a good one.
I thought that was a cool.
A lot of people made a big fuss out of that.
Oh, he's running us like a company.
Yeah, maybe we shouldn't call him chief executive then.
We're a very powerful country.
We are!
Look at the structure.
Look at the legal documents.
We're a company.
Strong.
Very strong country.
We'll soon be at a level that we perhaps have never been before.
Our military is going to be strengthened.
It's been depleted.
But I am a...
Which is kind of threatening.
To say that.
We're going to be strong.
That means our military.
You know?
Traitor.
I am a fair traitor.
I am a traitor that wants to see good for everybody worldwide.
But I am not an isolationist by any stretch of the imagination.
So I don't know what newspaper you're reading.
But I guess that would be another example of, as you say, fake news.
Hmm.
I would say you were butt slammed.
Butt slammed!
Definitely butt slammed.
You got butt slammed.
Now, in your report, you had one of those frosty reception because it was cold.
But before, I want to do a little aside because you brought up something that came up that he just said.
Okay.
That came up in the Sealing Finest, French 24.
This came up at the G20, which is meaning, the clip is Baden-Baden.
Oh, Baden-Baden, yes.
This came up on Deutsche Welle.
There's this new woman, Helena, who does the business reporting.
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Is that the one who used to be on CNBC with the tall, crazy blonde...
No, no, no.
Oh, okay.
This Helena, she's got a nice German accent.
She's absolutely gorgeous, especially if you like the dark, dark, black-haired goth look she has.
And in this particular report, she has these goth, just, I'm telling you, it's goth makeup.
Everything's short of black lipstick.
Really?
And who does she work for?
Deutsche Welle.
And she's really pretty, and they put her in these tight-fitting dresses, and she does a stand-up.
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Deutsche...
Now you're going to check this out.
Deutsche Welle.
What's her name?
Helga?
Helena.
Oh, Helena.
I don't know.
I can't remember her last name, but it's something very Germanic.
Well, there can't be a whole bunch of Hellenas.
Let's see.
Oh!
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So she stands up and she's wearing these tight-fitting dresses and she's got kind of a butt.
She's kind of like Guilfoyle-esque?
Yes, a little bit, but she's prettier.
Oh yeah, much prettier.
Sorry, Guilfoyle.
You're outnumbered by the crowds.
Anyways, they have her do a stand-up and talk into a giant screen.
Hey, baby.
I've seen this a number of times.
Talking to my giant screen.
She's talking to a giant screen, so I'm watching DW now, one of my routines.
And they have her standing there with this tight-fitting dress, and she's got a shapely butt.
And she's got her feet positioned a certain way, and then she does that pivot.
Oh, she does the screen pivot.
Nice.
It's like a screen pivot and all you can see is her butt sticking out.
I don't even want to know what she had to say anymore.
Just keep telling me what she looks like.
The woman's got this terrific butt.
And so you're saying, wow, that was a good find.
I don't know what they just said, but it must be true because look at that butt.
And so I get the biggest kick.
So she is now doing a report on the G20, and she's throwing it to the guys.
She's throwing it to the giant head, and we're going to get a report.
And you'll see what's going on.
The G20 is just a bunch of meetings.
It's like a drinking club where they can decide what not to talk about.
Well, let's cross over now to our correspondent, Javier Argeras, who is reporting for us from Baden-Baden.
Now, Javier, protectionism has been the elephant in the room, we understand, and whether or not that word will make its way into the final communique.
What are you hearing?
Well, Helena, from what I'm hearing, I would say that it's very unlikely that the word protectionism and the commitment to fight protectionism is going to appear in that final communique of the G20 finance minister's meeting.
And the reason is, very clearly, that the U.S. is opposing that fiercely.
Now, the U.S. already succeeded today in eliminating all references to climate change in this declaration.
So it is very likely that they will also pursue and succeed in eliminating protectionism.
The question is how the countries are going to discuss that tomorrow, especially if they do not want to talk about the sensitive topic of trade and protectionism.
And briefly, Javier, we understand China doesn't want the word fair trade in the communique either.
That's right.
If China wants to strike the word fair because the United States is pushing for that exact word, it would be fair in the sense better suited to the United States.
So China is definitely opposing that.
As you can see, the details always make the difference.
And in the end, we'll probably just see a vague description of what the countries are really looking for.
All right.
Javier Aguedes in Baden-Baden.
Thanks for that.
I think she's quite the find.
What was the clip about?
Baden-baden, apparently.
I need to go back to...
I'm looking for a term.
When, in a news report, you do those cool little tie-ins, like a frosty reception because it was cold.
Is there a name for that?
Yeah, it's called a cheap pun.
Cheap pun.
That would be a pun to me.
Cheap pun.
One of our producers found the cheapest of all puns If it's a true pun.
Oh yeah.
On PBS. And so what you're going to hear in this clip is the tail end of the report of the president with Merkel of Deutschland.
And then you're going to hear the back announce from that is Judy, I believe.
And listen to what she says.
Merkel's dealings with President Trump may affect her popularity at a critical moment.
She's seeking a fourth term as chancellor in elections later this year and faces challenges from both the left and the right.
In the day's other news, President Trump defended the White House's handling of his claim that President Obama had him wiretapped.
His press secretary, Sean Spicer, had quoted a Fox News analyst who suggested British intelligence handle the wiretapping.
The British flatly denied it and complained to the White House.
But at his news conference today, the president dismissed the furor.
Come on.
Come on.
That was on purpose.
You know.
Dismiss the Fuhrer, der Fuhrer.
You know, I'm thinking sometimes, because I do these kinds of lines often, and they sound like gems.
Oh, that guy's so funny.
And they're subconscious.
Yeah.
And I think that may have been subconscious because Judy can't really do that.
Well, but she didn't write the copy.
She didn't write what she's reading in the prompter.
Well, not necessarily.
She might write her own copy.
But when you say he dismissed the Fuhrer, I'm talking specifically here.
Handled the wiretapping.
The British flatly denied it and complained to the White House.
But at his news conference today, the president dismissed the Fuhrer.
Ha!
It's almost like when he says, I'm a fair trader, you could also say, I'm a traitor.
You know, you can hear all these things.
I just thought that was pretty...
Yeah, that was definitely...
You want a borderline clip of the day for that?
I do.
I'm just going to take it.
I'm claiming it.
It's alright, because I got true clips of the day coming up.
Now, since you're on that, going down that road, let's at least play...
Let's play the CBS hit piece that was done by Garrett.
Major Garrett.
Major.
He hasn't become general yet.
And this is...
Major Garrett, what do I have here?
A hit piece on Wiretap?
That would be it.
You know, this past administration, at least we have something in common, perhaps.
That's a reference to Obama-era surveillance of Chancellor Merkel's cell phone by the National Security Agency.
The president's use of the word wiretapping is at odds with his own comments just days ago.
Because wiretapping is pretty old-fashioned stuff, but that really covers surveillance and many other things.
Both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees have said no surveillance of Trump Tower took place.
We said nothing.
The President also amplified another unverified allegation, that Mr.
Obama used British intelligence to spy on him.
Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano made the accusation Tuesday.
President Obama went outside the chain of command.
He didn't use the NSA, he didn't use the CIA, he didn't use the FBI, and he didn't use the Department of Justice.
He used GCHQ. What the heck is GCHQ? That's the initials for the British spying agency.
On Fox News, on March 14th, Judge Andrew Napolitano...
Press Secretary Sean Spicer cited that report at yesterday's White House briefing.
The GCHQ issued a rare public rebuke, saying the allegation is, quote, utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.
But the president took no responsibility for the breach of protocol with the UK, one of America's closest allies.
I didn't make an opinion on it.
That was a statement made by a very talented lawyer on Fox.
And so you shouldn't be talking to me, you should be talking to Fox.
Is he serious?
He's got to stop that.
That's dumb.
Hey man, but what I said was the guy on Fox.
Talented guy though.
Lawyer on Fox.
And so you shouldn't be talking to me.
You should be talking to Fox.
Fox anchor Shepard Smith moments after the press conference.
Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano's commentary.
Why doesn't he just go work at CNN already?
You know, he's throwing everybody under the bus that he can.
Hey, guys, look at me.
I'm doing such good work throwing people under the bus.
Yeah, I'm in your dimension.
Hire me.
Hire me in dimension B. Hire me.
Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano's commentary.
Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now President of the United States was surveilled at any time, in any way, full stop.
You know, so...
Wait, you missed the end.
The last thing you said.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to step on it.
No, listen to it.
It was surveilled at any time, in any way, full stop.
Full stop.
Hold on.
So, Napolitano, I remember the clip, the whole clip, and he said, sources who I can't name, three of them, three, inside the intelligence community, told him this.
Yeah.
So, it's always okay for everyone to use anonymous sources.
I'm sorry?
I said we have the original clip if you want to play this from the last show.
Yeah, well, we can do that.
Why don't we do that?
What's the name of the outfit again?
GHCQ? Is that it?
Yeah, but it'd be under Napolitano.
Okay, here we go.
And by the way, he said the exact same thing with the exact same words.
It's almost rehearsed.
Because this second showing of it was, I believe, a different show when they played the clip on CBS. Yes, correct.
Let me see what this one is here.
Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News.
There you go.
Three intelligence sources.
Listen to what he says.
Have informed Fox.
He doesn't say me.
He says Fox.
And then we have Fox saying we can't confirm it?
Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command.
He didn't use the...
Okay, and Shep says...
The United States was surveilled at any time in...
Wait, let me see.
He says Fox News cannot, so who's lying here?
Fox News knows of no evidence.
I definitely hear something else here on Fox News.
Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News.
I don't know.
Someone's got to get their story straight, people.
Well, the other one, if you listen to Shepard Smith, and I've got another example of this later in the show, of this sort of weasel wording your way out.
Having somebody tell you this happened doesn't mean you have evidence.
Hold on a second.
I want to play...
CNN... Shep says Fox News has no evidence.
Shep.
Yes, that's what he says.
Yeah.
No evidence.
Okay, you can say sources have said, but we have no evidence.
I understand what you're saying.
Yeah.
We're going to see more of that as we go along.
Weasel words.
In other words, you're really reporting nothing.
It's a turd.
Yeah.
It's a turd.
Here's CNN. Oh, I forget which commentator...
I had the line, but you'll hear it.
What was your reaction when you see the British government calling something the White House says, said from the White House briefing room, ridiculous and should be ignored?
Well, Kate, it was ridiculous.
GCHQ is the National Security Agency of Britain.
It operates under very, very strict guidelines, strict laws.
And for GCHQ to make a press statement like this, I've never heard of it.
It's unprecedented.
They are furious.
The accusation that Sean Spicer made is Britain got involved in our politics, which for the British is a red line.
And I'd like to add that if this White House continues to play with national security like this for political partisan purposes, and frankly, bat around lies that everybody knows is a lie, this is going to hurt our security.
And Sean Spicer is going to get people killed because GCHQ...
Killed?
Stop talking over it.
Yes, that's what he said.
Get people killed because GCHQ...
I want to hear that whole sentence again.
It's going to get people killed, you see.
But he knows it's a lie.
This is going to hurt our security.
And Sean Spicer is going to get people killed because GCHQ will stop cooperating eventually.
Sean Spicer, sweaty Sean, the murderer.
They're not going to stop cooperating.
Wait a minute.
Who says they're cooperating?
If they're cooperating already, doesn't it make sense that this could possibly happen?
This is not...
This is one of the workarounds.
Security people talk about this all the time, and everybody knows this is going on, that you can't spy the NSA, or the NSA is essentially a signals company bringing all this electronic communication.
Sigint.
Sigint.
And the CIA can't spy on Americans, and the Sigint guys get mostly signals.
And...
But they can get all this data, and they can share it.
And then the other guys, GCHQ, can get all the data that they want on Americans, and then they can share it.
So I can spy on the British.
I'm one of them on one side.
I say, okay, I can spy on the British.
What do you have on this guy?
Because we can't legally spy on him.
What do you have?
Yeah.
And this is a known fact.
This goes on.
It's the easiest way to do it.
And they do it under the Five Eyes Agreement with Australia and New Zealand and Canada.
And it's legal.
Yes.
It's totally legal.
Yes, our CIA cannot spy on us, but British MI6 can, and they can get the information to whoever needs it.
So the whole thing is a joke.
This is all of this.
And all of it is show.
It's just all show.
But I like them being haughty.
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I don't know who Bill Nye is irking, but he's getting a lot of negative publicity.
He's doing ads now.
Now he's doing endorsements, which is a real...
I should have clipped that.
I apologize.
I'll get it for Thursday.
A couple people sent me a link that he's doing endorsements for some company.
And of course, that's a true sign of a problem.
Because he's clearly not making money from the climate change message.
So he has to go make money somewhere else.
How's he going to make money from the climate change message?
He needs to do a paper.
He needs to get some funding.
Becoming just a stooge doesn't get you.
A check doesn't show up.
Maybe because he's not a climate scientist?
You mean he's a mechanical engineer?
I think he's an electrical engineer.
I don't know if he's mechanical or electrical.
One of the two.
He's a dick.
There's a lot of engineers in the world that believe that if they know one little segment of engineering, they know everything about everything.
No offense to you engineers, but you know what I'm talking about.
Exactly.
I.E. Triple E boys.
We're looking at you.
Paul Erskine in Seattle, Washington is our last guy at $237.33 to be associated executive producer for 914.
I believe that's the number.
Hello to the best podcasters in the universe.
use this or not in the podcast, edit it or not, I don't care.
I've been listening now for a few months and I find no agenda entertaining and informative.
I've known for many years that the mainstream media can't be trusted and that's because most of them are in the other universe.
They don't even know they're spreading partial or non-truths.
I believe this to be true.
No need for karma, not a huge fan, but throw in whatever your favorite clip is.
I like Sharpton Resist, but a lot of people have been asking for it, so play something different.
A deep douching is also humbly requested.
I can give him that right now.
He wants a resist or not a resist?
He doesn't want a resist.
He wants something different.
He deeply wants a resist, but he realizes we're playing it too much.
So he wants and he doesn't want.
You know, it's one of those things.
Well, I don't have anything then.
Well, play him to resist then.
No, I'll play this for him.
The following podcast will make you realize that Al Sharpton's incomprehensible.
But resist, we much.
We must and we will much.
About that.
Be committed.
Was the result of anal leakage.
Listener discretion is advised.
You've been de-douched.
That's what you get when you play something on the fly.
This is old news, but he continues on his note.
You gave him a deduce.
I did.
This is old news, but one thing that is old news, but has been on my mind is about Comey saying they were reopening the Clinton email investigation just prior to the election.
What if the reason he did this was because he actually knows what was in the 30,000 emails from some other method, maybe something from the vault, seven bag of tricks or similar.
And he was trying to determine if what was in Clinton's email was worth revealing how the FBI got the information.
He needed a week to wait the cost versus benefits and ultimately determine the cost was too great.
Just a wild thought.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
Yeah.
Nobody knows.
Comey right now.
And he's in Austin today.
You can believe that.
He has time to go open some.
He's rummaging through your place as we speak.
He's not here, man.
Come on.
We know he's not here.
Let's go in.
We'll find it.
We'll find some evidence.
Anyway, he says, keep up the good work trying to hit people in the mouth.
I just have bad aim.
We did get that in yesterday's partay over at Duke's house.
We did get one new listener.
Yes, and one new listener on an Android, no less.
Yes.
That was fantastic.
You know what?
Our work is done, John.
Yes, we were good for the day.
We have yet another one.
One a day.
So that was our rather short list of executive producers and one executive associate producer.
Appreciate that highly, of course.
Thank you.
That's why we put you at the front there.
Just like Hollywood with real credits, these things are always good to go.
And we'll be thanking more people, $50 or above, in our second donation segment.
And of course, another show coming up on Thursday.
Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And just like we did, yup, we're not too big to go out and propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizen.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Um, Robert Reich.
What's his deal?
Robert Reich.
Well, Robert Reich's the old labor secretary.
Very small, diminutive person.
He's a petite male.
Oh, he's a small man.
Like Richard Marks.
I don't know how tall Richard Marx is, but I think Reich is about four or nine.
Does he have a cute butt?
I wouldn't know, and I wouldn't want to know.
He was the Labor Secretary under Clinton.
He's an old-school progressive.
Funny public speaker.
He's got some good jokes.
He does good material.
He's over at Cal, over here in Berkeley, teaching something.
He doesn't seem to have published office hours, so you can't go over there and seams.
I don't know what he's up to do.
Okay.
Well, I guess he does get asked from time to time to comment on things.
So he's a...
Oh, he was the best.
We had this clip.
This was him some time ago, before the election.
And he was with Chris Hedges and they were debating each other on somebody else's show, Democracy Now!
or something like that.
And Chris Hedges had a real good grasp of reality.
And Reich did not.
And it was so apparent when the two of them went off against each other that Reich is like an old woman, total dimension B, completely nuts, scared to death that we're all going to die because of climate change and Trump.
So he's a loony.
Well, I think it's gotten really bad with him.
We know that, as we've witnessed many times on this program, throughout our decade of broadcast experience, we know that the truth always wants to come out, and what someone is really thinking will slip out.
And sometimes it's so blatant that you just have to stop and go, wow, you're harboring, in this case, I think, very bad thoughts.
I'm a tad worried perhaps for him.
And this is regarding the complete freakout of the budget.
And we'll obviously have more clips to talk about.
As one of the campaign promises was, we're going to remove spending that is not useful.
I wouldn't want to say wasteful, but not useful to the American people.
And, you know, it's the National Endowment for the Arts, it's PBS, it's NPR. We'll talk about those specifically.
But Robert Wright really was looking at these cuts from a meta level.
And how unprecedented they are.
And again, the truth always wants to come out.
Now, as you know, the new budget expands the military by 10%, $54 billion.
Now, because the military is such a large part of the budget, that 10% expansion, that $54 billion is huge and requires a lot of cuts elsewhere in the budget to accommodate the That $54 billion.
He's also expanding homeland security, including his wall.
That is also going to cost billions of dollars, and that means cuts elsewhere in the budget.
And where are the cuts coming?
He is imposing unprecedented, unprecedented cuts in issues that people...
Did you hear it?
Yeah.
Come on.
What is he thinking?
Unprecedented cunts.
I mean, seriously, that's what he's thinking.
He's thinking the whole time, these guys are, see you next Tuesdays.
And it slips out.
Huh.
I don't hear it.
Well, that's the borderline clip of the day.
I would think so.
Unprecedented cunts.
Yeah, sure.
Because that's what he's thinking.
Well, it had to be on his mind.
That word just doesn't show up out of the blue as an alternative to the word cuts.
Well, and now check this out.
I don't know if it's Tourette's, and I have some standing in this.
It doesn't sound like it.
Maybe there's just new protocol that I'm unaware of, speaking of the new protocol, of what you can say on CNN. This is Fareed Zakaria, the anti-constitutionalist douchebag.
Oh, yeah.
And he is.
He's the New World Order poster child on CNN. Yes, he's totally a New World, one world government guy.
Yeah, no nations, no borders.
And he's on with the overnight legend, Don Lemon.
And if you want, I can play the whole clip, but just listen to what he says in the beginning.
Really believes that he was wiretapped?
I got into trouble during the campaign saying something about the president, which I still think is true.
I think the president is somewhat indifferent to things that are true or false.
He has spent his whole life bullshitting.
He has succeeded by bullshitting.
He has gotten the presidency by bullshitting.
It's very hard to tell somebody at that point that bullshit doesn't work because...
It's okay now to say bullshit five times on CNN?
I guess so.
Well, it's a cable station, so technically it's always okay.
Technically it's okay, but we don't even like to say that on our show.
Oh, thank you, sir.
We don't even like to say that.
We use bullshit once in a while, but typically we say bullcrap.
Bullcrap, yeah.
Which works.
Now, somebody on the word thing, which we'll maybe do a little bit of today, somebody brought one up that I said, oh, I forgot all about this one, which was the substitute for horse shit, which I think my dad even used to say this, horse feathers.
Horse feathers.
Now, we might as well talk about this right now, because we're here at the good Grand Duke's home, and the wife of the Grand Duke, as you say, She is a member of Junior League, which is one of the oldest women's charitable organizations.
I like her, but she does seem like a Junior League girl.
Yes.
And so they had a big rummage sale, which really was only for Saturday, but we went Friday because she's on the inside, so we had the first evening, first pick, first dibs on all those stuff.
Yeah, just like any old elitist.
But wait, wait, wait.
The catch is you have to pay double the price.
Oh, again.
I like that.
A decadent elitist.
Yes, we have to go early.
Daphne!
Daphne, we gotta get to the rummage sale.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
Okay, let's go.
We have to pay twice as much, but we get in early.
Oh, fiddlesticks.
Who gives a hoot?
Anyway, at the rummage sale, you know, there's typical stuff you can pick up, but I was walking through the book section, and jumping out at me was a book by Webb Garrison, Why You Say It, the fascinating stories behind over 600 everyday words and phrases, in alphabetical order.
So we decided on the fly during the party that we would use this book to see if we can find stuff that's not in the book.
Now, horse feathers is not in the book.
Horse feathers is a big one, because I remember horse feathers, and it was a very, it was a good all-purpose word for bullcrap.
Horse feathers.
Horse feathers.
I have horse's mouth.
Horse power, horse play, horse around.
No, I do not have horse feathers.
You know, I think this book's probably not going to carry half the stuff that we've been getting.
Well, that's okay.
Now, you want to do a little bit of this at the moment?
You don't have the jingle?
Yeah, we do have the jingle.
Oh, okay, what is it?
Well, since I brought up idioms, which is, I think...
Idioms.
Idioms we're talking about, here's what came in.
Phrases, bring back the old phrases?
I have no, I don't have a title on mine.
No agenda assassinates media.
Idioms?
Is it idioms?
No, no agenda American.
It's your boys!
Hey boys, Green Day!
It's your boys, man!
Come on, John.
It's your boys.
Here we go.
No agenda assassinates media.
American idiots.
No agenda American idiot.
That is Mike Malaro.
Mike.
Our boy Mike.
Philly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
It's your boys.
Green Day.
That's the boys.
You know, you love them.
Those kids, they might get somewhere.
Yeah, they might make a buck or two.
All right.
Now, we had an idiomatic expression somebody came up with.
I got my list here.
I don't have it.
I can open up.
We've got a million of these.
Yeah, and by the way, and by the way, the...
We got to talk about it.
Yeah, let me talk about this.
The instructions were very clear.
John said, email me, John, with words in the subject.
At no point did that mean copy Adam on it.
Just saying.
I didn't open them.
I just put them in a folder.
I'm like, this is your beat.
This is your deal.
You got to manage it.
We got highfalutin.
Yes.
Is that in the book?
I don't think so.
I'm sure highfalutin is in the book.
Is that H-I... H-I something.
Highfalutin.
No.
This is a genie.
She says, don't be so high hat, which equals do not be so highfalutin, which is the idiom that we wanted.
This is another one.
I'm going to try to tell people not to do these.
Send her away with a flea in her ear.
A flea in her ear?
Yeah, and it means yell at her so she goes away with your words ringing in her ear.
Now, she doesn't tell me where she's from.
People have got to tell me where you're from.
Like, here's Sir Dave Pugh, one of our knights, says, Don't let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass.
I'm sure that's not in here.
I am sure it's not in there.
No.
And here's another one from Joseph Pumphrey.
I am up against a lick log.
A lick log?
The phrase made to convey the difficulty of a situation or choice.
Hmm, lick log.
Yeah, I'm up against a lick log.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know.
He also mentions my grandfather would not limit himself to the seven major curse words.
He would count horse feathers as a good enough explanation to convey anger or deep disappointment.
Another person writes in, my grandpa had some colorful station.
Pennsylvania Dutch.
So he got What the Sam Hill, which we have already added.
This one I forgot about.
Jiminy Crickets.
Jiminy Crickets, yeah.
Now, this one.
Does that just come from Disney?
Yeah, but I think it meant it was a Jesus Christ, a Cripes kind of a substitute.
People didn't, it was using the Lord's name in vain, was taken seriously, and so they'd say Jiminy Crickets instead.
And this one, which is...
I never heard of, but it sounds great.
I'm going to the Shinohannis.
Shinohannis?
Yeah, S-H-I-N-A-H-A-U-N-I-S. I thought the last...
He says to me...
Let's see who this is.
I think it's...
Oh, this is Sir Munchnuts.
Munchnuts says...
I thought the last one, Shinohannes, meant my death.
My aunt thought it was the outhouse, and I think it is the outhouse.
Where are you going?
I'm going to the Shinohannes!
And you're going to take a crap in the outhouse.
Anyway, and then we have a long list from Johnny.
And I'm going to maloo you, which I never heard, the big galoot.
Stupid person.
Wind your neck in for calm down or, you know, don't get your panties in a bunch.
I never heard any of these.
This one I have heard of when I was a kid.
You look like the wild man of Borneo.
And this means you just didn't comb your hair or something because apparently the wild man of Borneo was a big deal in the 40s.
Catch yourself on for Wise Up.
Give us a wee juke at that.
That means look at.
You ones are a bunch of eejits, which is idiot.
I dead on me.
Let's go for a wee dander, which is a walk.
It's a brass monkey out there, cold.
I fell near on me hoop.
Bum.
Okay.
Now this one I was baffled by completely.
This is I think this is Leo Bravo that sent this.
Bump my rock.
Have you ever heard this?
No.
He claims it's a phrase from the 1980s high school in Downey, California.
Maybe it's just something that was local and never caught on anywhere.
Could be.
Hang 10.
A bunch of these are just normal that you hear all the time.
Still.
I don't want people sending those in.
I'm going to give you five more because we can do these all day.
I know we could, but luckily I only have about five more to do, because I printed these out.
All right.
Hard copy.
Deader Than Kelsey's Nuts.
Kelsey Grammer's Nuts?
I don't know what this means.
After all those marriages, they probably are pretty dead.
Married to Camilla.
Better Than a Poor Man's Eye.
Hmm.
You can plant potatoes in those ears.
And then this one, which we're going to end with, which is the one I don't want to get because, again, it is a...
This is from...
I can't remember who this is.
Maybe Curtis.
Because this is not anything that is old and out of play that we want to reintroduce.
The idea of this is to reintroduce cool-sounding phrases.
And children should be seen and not heard is not one of them.
Okay, stop.
Good.
Now we have a reason for doing this segment.
Thank you.
We only want to hear cool phrases that should be repurposed.
Yes.
That's the way to go.
Otherwise, we just have a million phrases here that are kind of interesting.
Now, if you want to send some in that are really weird and interesting, like the Shinnahouse house, whatever it is, I probably won't bring it up on the show, but I'd be kind of interested in hearing those.
But children should be seen and not heard is not even in the right dimension.
No.
All right.
John at Dvorak.org.
Words in the subject line, please.
That's right.
It's our American Idioms here on Let's talk about these budget cuts.
Everybody freaking out.
I heard stuff about this at the party last night, too.
You know, I've heard, I don't have any clips on this, but I've heard people freaking out on the one hand, and then other people, usually political commentators from the right, dimension A, will say, saying, this is the greatest ever!
Well, it's really in the nuance, but also in the details.
We've mentioned for a long time that the actual amount of government funding for NPR and for PBS is a very small amount.
But it is money.
Oh, it's definitely money.
And the same goes for Meals on Wheels, and there's a lot of different programs.
Planned Parenthood.
Defunding Planned Parenthood would not remove all of their money.
Through the Medicare reimbursement.
It would remove what I would call a handout.
Yes.
I mean, they're a $1.4 billion organization.
Anyway.
This has a lot of people very upset.
And of course, that's all that the media looks to do.
We just need something to freak out over.
It's fabulous.
And with media, I will now also include print media, New York Daily News, I'm very, very upset about the cuts.
The White House calls President Trump's budget a hard power plan, but the New York Police Department says it could leave this city vulnerable to terror attacks.
Commissioner James O'Neill says under the proposal, New York City would lose $110 million from the Homeland Security grant program.
He says that program is the backbone of the department's counter-terrorism unit.
Joining me now, CNN correspondent Jason Carroll.
Jason, what's going on here?
Well, you know, look, the mayor really blasting this budget proposal.
If you want to see how the city's reaction, I want to put something up for your viewers to take a look at.
It's the cover of the Daily News.
And what it shows, there you see it right there, it shows One World Trade Center as a target.
It's a pretty provocative cover, but it really falls in step With how the mayor and the police commissioner feel about this budget proposal as it goes forward, they say it would make the city left safe and that it would cripple efforts to defend it from terrorists.
Police Commissioner James O'Neill says Trump's budget would translate into cutting $110 million that the NYPD receives annually as part of the Homeland Security Grant Program.
That means they say the city would not be able to pay for counter-terrorism tools put into place, Following 9-11, such as the network of security cameras that monitor potential soft targets like Times Square, radiological detectors placed throughout the city, active shooter training for officers, and intelligence analysis, which is key to preventing another terrorist attack.
We're all gonna die!
Oh yeah.
So all you need now is just some kind of little event and then we could pin it on the Trump administration, of course.
Oh yeah.
That's why we're dying.
Well, they probably do, I'm just guessing, they probably, based on local numbers I do have, they probably do $100 million in traffic fines and parking meter violations a year.
A minimum.
A minimum.
Yeah.
And I would assume, and they also now have a tax to come into the city, and it costs like 50 bucks to go through the bridge or something like that.
Yeah, well, you know, it's 24.
Yeah.
24 bucks to go into the city.
It's kind of crazy.
All they have to do is just double it.
You had to pay, I don't know what they, because it can't get worse in San Francisco.
Typical San Francisco parking ticket, and compare this to your local municipalities, but a typical parking meter violation in San Francisco is $50.
Mm-hmm.
Now most people, most cities, municipalities is 5, 10 maybe.
But it's 50.
And that's the beginning.
Everything else is like 200 plus.
And that's it.
Pick up that tab.
Well, and then New Yorkers, eh, screw them.
Right, but when you see New York Daily News saying, because of the administration's budget cuts...
Well, the New York Daily News is the one that did all those crazy covers.
They did a whole newsletter filled with these covers of Trump the Clown, Trump the Bonehead...
Yeah, but now they have a target, a scope target on One World Trade Center...
Yeah, that's pleasant.
Yeah, that's very nice.
Well, it was interesting to listen to Don Lemon.
I can't help myself.
Now, Don did something I have not yet seen.
And I'm very happy that it's taking place.
He had a black-to-box.
We have the sect-to-box, the oct-to-box, when you have more people on.
He had seven black commentators and himself.
Seven black-to-box.
All black.
It was a black-to-box.
I've never seen it on CNN. I've never seen all, I've seen eight.
Yeah, so he's a black-to-box on, and of course we have the one guy who's wrong, that would be Paris, who is Trump's black guy.
I just can't say it any other way.
Yeah, it's Trump's black guy.
And then on the other hand, you've got Bakari, you've got Angela Rye, Everyone who just hates Trump.
And, of course, Don Lemon.
And this is about the budget cuts.
And, well, you can understand that we're going to die.
We can see where this is going.
You walk down the street, you get...
He starts off with...
This was the intro clip of Trump to get into the topic.
Right now, you walk down the street, you get shot.
What do you have to lose?
Well, that did happen, didn't it?
So, um...
What do we have to lose?
What do African Americans have to lose?
By the way, none of these people live in any neighborhood remotely as dangerous as what was being talked about there.
Of course not.
Don Lemon, he's worried about being shot.
He's got a doorman.
So, um...
What do we have to lose?
What do African Americans have to lose?
The President's proposed budget slashes funding.
Let's see, for federal agencies that assist the poor in urban areas, including many African Americans, Department of Housing and Urban Development down 13.2%, Department of Education down 13.5%, Department of Health and Human Services down 16.2%.
So it seems like some African Americans are losing a lot.
Am I wrong, Paris?
Well, yes, Don, I think you are wrong, because if you look at the 13.5% cut that you mentioned for the Department of Education, what we do know in a time that a lot of cuts happened across the board, across the federal government, because the president said in campaign that he was going to do that, what we did not see were any cuts to HBCU. HBCU took me five minutes to remember.
It's the historically black colleges.
Right, he's all for the black colleges and help him support them.
Yeah.
The HBCU, the $492 million, the HBCUs were not cut.
What we did not see were cuts to Pell.
When you see over 90% of...
Well, when people are kicked out of their houses, I guess they're going to go live in an historically black college or university, but...
And when you look at this president's budget, he did not make one cut to HBCU funding.
He did not make one cut to Pell funding.
Actually, Paris, what do you need to do with Pell?
What do you need to do with Pell?
So a lot of people, HBCUs is important.
But there are a lot of people who are sitting here watching tonight going, HBCUs, I gotta eat.
I've gotta live somewhere.
Great, yes, I would love to send my kid to a college, any college, and hopefully maybe...
What has eating got to do with the federal budget?
This is what is so crazy.
Lemon is saying that because of the racist policies...
I mean, he's not saying that specifically.
We'll listen a little bit longer.
That it's, you know, the policies are racist, racist, No tea.
The policies are racist because they're making black people starve.
But nice that you kept the HBCUs going.
Well, maybe the starving people can eat there.
I don't know what he's talking about.
But what he is saying is the president hates black people and is going to make them starve.
That's all I can hear.
Maybe it's because I'm not straddling today.
But...
Maybe they want to send them to an HBCU. But why are you rambling on about HBCUs when we're talking about urban development, about other education, about health and human services?
There are more important issues than HBCUs.
Don, I would caution you by saying to all those 300,000 students who attend HBCUs.
I didn't say it wasn't important.
I said there are more important issues.
I didn't say, don't put words in my mouth.
Did you hear what I said?
I said there are more important issues.
And when you put up a graphic that shows all these things.
Paris, look, my entire family went to HBCUs.
Don't give me the lesson I know with HBCUs.
Look at me.
I know what they are.
And I'm a product of an HBCU family.
But my point is there are more important things in HBCUs, and you keep pointing to one of them when I've gone down a list of things that are really important.
And when I'm telling you I would rather eat than, or some people it's more the priority for them is to eat rather than where they're going to go to college.
He could just, no one can win with this guy.
He's gone off the deep end.
Yeah, he better watch out because Shep Smith is going to come in.
Take his spot.
Shep Smith.
Now, there was more, like, super freak-out about what's going on.
We can listen to Pelosi, but I think the funniest one was The View.
There are, in this case, I think two women on the panel who are clearly conservatives, and this is really a dimension A, dimension B. Where B and A are not even listening to each other, yet they're yelling over each other.
Very similar to the kind of debate you hear on college campuses in the 60s and 70s between Palestinians and Israelis.
It was just like, wow, these guys don't.
We're paying zero attention to each other.
Now, that's a very interesting analogy or parallel you draw there.
Of course, I didn't know that.
And so what you're saying is in the 60s and 70s, there were big debates about Israel and Palestine.
Yeah, and they were usually in the street with a big crowd around.
With fighting?
No, I'm just yelling, yelling.
Both sides.
So what we can tell now is 40 years later, nothing's changed.
So this does not bode well.
This does not bode well for these dimensions.
So this is about PBS. And I want to stop you one more time.
I mentioned this, I think, in the newsletter.
I mentioned it in a tweet.
I'm not sure.
But during this debate, because of the funding of the Endowment for the Arts and all this, somebody pointed out that, you know, Hamilton, because Hamilton's like the thing, You know, on Broadway.
Oh, yeah.
Hamilton wouldn't be even on Broadway if it wasn't for the Endowment for the Arts was held funded or something.
I don't know anything about this.
I don't know.
It may or may not be true, but my comment was, well, if that's even remotely true, why did the cast of Hamilton berate in public Mike Pence when he went to see the damn play, and then they yelled at him and screamed at him and called him a douchebag And they expect funding?
I mean, come on.
You can't do that.
That's a very good point.
And do we get part of the massive profits?
Does that go back into...
Do we get part of the massive...
Well, while we're at it, do we get part of the massive global...
I mean global, down to licensing huge profits of Sesame Street?
Sesame Street is a non-profit.
They don't even pay taxes.
You know what's funny about Sesame Street, it keeps coming up in the conversation, but Sesame Street has long since become profit, and for the last three years they've been only on HBO. All they have on NPR or PBS is old reruns.
Well, they are a 5013C corporation.
They pay no taxes.
Yeah, well that's fine, but they shouldn't be getting any government money.
Well, I don't think they were getting any more government money, other than if they're still being broadcast on PBS, but let's just look at the two fundamental pieces.
NPR, which I believe it's 4% of NPR's budget comes from the government.
You do not have to worry about NPR. Jarl Mohn, and I think I told you on the show after I met him in New York, he's doing this huge endowment, it's like multi-billion dollar, and that's going to fund them for the next 20 years.
Yeah, and they got it made.
Yeah, and once Lee, I mean, I'm sorry, Jarl, once he has that done, he's going to leave.
It's interesting because he was posting on the face bag, record numbers NPR, record downloads NPR pocket, record number website visits.
Yeah, it was the election.
Okay.
No mention of why everyone was tuning in.
I predict he's going to leave very soon.
The minute he has that endowment in, he's out.
Because it's a bunch of douchebags who work there.
You know it's not going to be fun.
And all the stations have their own agendas, and they own their own stuff, and they don't have to listen.
It's got to be a mess.
But the money is 4%.
For PBS, it's even less.
And PBS, they don't do little underwriting.
No, they run full-on commercials.
PBS runs commercials.
Just regular commercials.
Yeah, just watch the beginning of the news hour.
But beside that, just in between, we're going to take a break and the commercial plays.
You know, the whole point of government-funded, or in our case, listener-supported, and we take it one step further, you're not a listener, you're a producer, and you have a responsibility to help us.
If not financially, there's many other ways, because that is the future of media.
That's how it's going to work.
You can't do it sitting on your high horse.
Anyways, it's even less.
Oh, that goes on the list.
High horse, yes.
Wait, let me see if that's in the book.
That's got to be in the book.
It better be.
Otherwise, I'd throw that book out.
Uh-oh.
Let's see.
High, high.
High horse!
32.
Let's go.
Okay.
This is the old school Alexa.
Okay.
32.
High horse.
When a friend's arrogance gets on your nerves, you may react with, Get off your high horse!
Long ago, a person's rank was fairly clearly indicated by the steed he or she rode.
Donkeys were used by peasants and serfs.
And run-of-the-mill horses transported shopkeepers and petty gentry.
Big stallions bred and trained as charges for use in tournaments and wore and were reserved for the rich and famous.
So there you go.
It was literally, surprise, surprise, if you were hoity-toity, you had a high horse.
Back to the view.
Two of the women are conservative.
They're trying to make the point that it's a very small amount of money that is not going to go to multiple programs, not just talking about PBS and PR, but about others.
And you can hear two dimensions just clashing.
The country is broke.
We have a $20 trillion national debt right now.
Our budget deficit is $591 billion.
Somebody pays for that.
There's not this pot of...
Everybody thinks there's this pot of gold or something.
Another one, pot of gold.
Something.
Pot of gold and a leprechaun that are just going to administer money.
How about the top 2% of our country?
I understand what he's saying.
What he's saying is, why raise taxes?
You can't just raise taxes to kingdom come.
As Margaret Thatcher once said, eventually you run out of everybody else's money.
How about raising them on the billionaire?
You can't tax your way out of that, though.
They're putting their fair share in it.
One at a time.
We're at the talking point, but wait a second.
As tough as it is, a lot of people have voted him in office to make these tough cuts.
You look around the country.
You have to operate a family on a budget.
A corporation has to operate on a budget.
But those are the people who need these programs.
But they're also the ones paying for the programs.
Meals on Wheels, by the way.
That's because the billionaires aren't paying their fair share.
Don't you love the...
I mean, I thought this one had gone away.
Fair share.
Millionaires and billionaires aren't paying their fair share.
I thought that was gone, but it's just back?
I don't think it ever disappeared completely.
It was always bubbling.
I don't know why no one ever brings up a wealth tax on these shows.
Well...
Meals on Wheels, just one second, 3.3% of its funding comes from government sources.
When you say they're cutting Meals on Wheels, Meals on Wheels is largely funded by private people, by corporate grants, by individual contributions.
So then what's your problem?
There isn't a This is great, isn't it?
3.3%.
She cannot get into her head that this 3.3% when it goes away, it will not.
Okay, maybe your grandmother will get 3.3% less goop.
Whatever, it's sludge.
No, the number doesn't mean anything to them.
I'm reminded.
I want to hear your story.
Just 30 seconds.
Listen to the numbers.
No, Jed, no.
It is not a talking point.
When you look at Meals on Wheels that helps our seniors, helps people like my grandmother, bottom line is...
Talk to the people that that 3.3% is going to affect.
I'm agreeing with you that the program is significant.
What I'm saying is 3.3% of its funding comes from the government.
So even if he cuts it, you're going to have private citizens, as they often do, come in.
Corporations.
America.
And I would suggest that certainly Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg Be very careful when they talk about millionaires and billionaires not paying their fair share.
I'm pretty sure Whoopi Goldberg for sure and probably Joy Behar are millionaires.
Multi-millionaires to an extreme.
Especially Whoopi with all the royalty she gets.
She still gets residuals from old Star Trek stuff.
I would think that she's a millionaire.
Maybe they should be ponying up.
Be careful how you talk about these things.
Well, they don't want to pony up.
They want the government to pony up.
That's the point.
Yes.
And by raising taxes on other millionaires.
Mills, M-I-L-S, Mills on Wills.
Mills on Wills.
Mills on Wills.
What was your story?
I'm reminded of this clip I've been wanting to put in the newsletter, and people should go out and look for it.
It's this joker with his girlfriend, and some people think it's rigged, but I don't think she's that good of an actress.
It's a YouTube thing this guy keeps doing with her.
He asked the question about the pizza.
You get a 12-inch pizza, and he asked her, would you want it sliced into 12 pieces or 8 pieces?
And she seriously says, eight, because I can't eat 12 pieces.
And he does the same thing you just did.
He laughs at her.
And she says, what are you laughing at?
And he says, well, you know, it's a pizza.
It's a pizza.
It's one pizza cut up with 12 pieces or eight pieces.
And she says, yeah.
Yeah, I want eight pieces.
I can't eat 12 pieces.
What did you get through your head that I can't eat 12 pieces?
It's too much.
And I believe she's dead serious.
And people can watch this on their own and tell me what they think.
Because I don't think she's that good of an actress.
I think she's just a dummy.
And I think it was the same kind of dummy thing we had in that clip where she doesn't seem to understand that 3.3% is not hardly much.
No, I think it's completely unrelated.
I understand why you think that.
It doesn't matter what amount it was.
It doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
It's just...
There is that element.
And then the White House...
I also want to ask this question, because I didn't look it up.
Did you look it up?
I don't think so.
I'm going to look it up for the next show.
Are we talking about cuts...
Or are we talking about cuts?
Are we talking about cuts in increases like the normal?
Oh, they're going to cut 10%.
And they're not cutting 10%.
They've got a budget of 30, they're going to make it 33, and they're going to cut 10% of the extra 10.
Or the extra 3, I guess.
I don't know.
I can't tell.
They're not being explanatory at all.
They're just bitching.
Let's just listen to Nancy Pelosi.
She would know.
She had something to say about it.
This is a budget of the deconstruction of the federal government.
They are deconstructionists.
They have said that.
I mean, they make no bones about that.
If one thing, listen to what they say.
There's clarity.
They want to deconstruct.
In this case, you see what they're doing in terms of infrastructure.
And in case of...
Speaker Ryan, he has in his budget over and over again that we would take the guarantee away from Medicare.
Medicare is a guarantee.
Without a guarantee, you're reverting back to how it was for seniors.
Now, right now, as far as I know, she's mentioned nothing that is in writing.
As far as I know.
She's only saying, well, this is what they want.
But it's nothing about what is in writing today.
Before we had Medicare.
So this is all about a philosophical distrust of the role of the federal government in any way in meeting the needs of the American people.
Should there be a debate?
Should we subject all spending to the harshest of scrutiny?
We certainly should.
And those of us who have advocated for some of it are the harshest critics to make sure that those investments accomplish what they set out to do.
So we don't have any argument about saying, okay, are we getting our money's worth for what we need to do for the American people?
But that's not what this is about.
This is systemic...
Deconstruction of the federal government and the rule.
So it's very hard to see.
I'm wondering why she uses the term deconstruction, where that may mean something to you and I and to the press, but if you want to send a message to the American people, you would say, you know, he's wrecking it, ruining it, pulling the rug out from underneath.
That's because she got that from Bannon.
We had a clip some time ago of Bannon talking about it.
I don't know if we still have the clip.
Maybe.
I think it's really...
But Bannon said they want to deconstruct...
And he had this very specific term.
They want to deconstruct the federal bureaucracy of lawmaking or something.
So he wants to stop these agencies from writing all these laws that Congress is supposed to write.
But Congress has abdicated the...
The responsibility to all these agencies, the EPA and all their rules or laws.
I've always felt this way when I was working for the air pollution district.
They had the ability to write these regulations and laws.
They're called regulations, but they're laws.
And you get fined if you don't follow these laws.
And they even have a kangaroo court where you go into the court.
You have to stand when the guy comes in, the kangaroo judge.
And you have to sit and then they...
Slam the gavel and tell you $100,000 for this thing you did wrong.
And that's what Ben is talking about.
And he used the word deconstruct.
And she's hung up on this.
Will you please use his proper name though?
Bannon?
No, Banyan.
He's Banyan.
Let's continue.
I'm sorry?
I'll go either way.
I'm kind of by Banyan.
No, I'm all in on Banyan.
Out on infrastructure.
Perhaps this is paving the way for what I fear, which is that he's going to have a bill that will be a tax bill for the rich disguised as infrastructure.
Now, this is something that I'm in agreement with, although we haven't seen it, but I'm also worried about this based on the president's words and the explanation of the president's words as it comes to infrastructure.
But again, we haven't seen anything.
Where the federal taxpayer will subsidize the construction of something to give opportunity for somebody to own it in the private sector, charge fees so the taxpayer is paying twice, subsidizing it and then paying for use of it.
Now, has she, by any chance, being a lawmaker from California, has she, by any chance, been a part of any of these types of schemes in California?
I have no idea.
It's possible.
I mean, you do pay tolls for stuff.
Is that because...
It's only on bridges.
Right.
Are those government-funded 100% or is that a public-private partnership?
They've always been funded by the government.
I don't know of any public-private partnership bridge.
So you paid taxes...
We paid taxes to have the thing built.
And we were promised that there wouldn't be tolls.
The taxes and the whole thing, once it was built, would be self-sustaining somehow.
Does Nancy Pelosi not represent California?
No, she represents San Francisco.
Ah, where the bridges are.
Yeah.
Okay.
With the tolls.
Tolls, yeah.
Why doesn't she fight about that then, first?
Because you got screwed.
Well, we got lied to by the government.
I got the old ads when they were building Golden Gate Bridge.
You can find it in old newspapers.
This is going to be great once it's built.
I guess local taxes will pick up the charge for painting it.
Which is really the main maintenance problem with these bridges.
They have to be constantly painted because of the seawater being corrosive.
So the conclusion is...
Whether it's government or not, whether it's private involved or not, there's a fee involved to cross the bridge.
Along these lines about these cuts, one of the most hated men in mainstream media is Mulvaney in the Trump administration.
I guess the Office of Management and Budget has a representative in the White House.
Is that how that works?
I am not aware of how this works.
Well, it says the White House Director of OMB, of the Office of Management and Budget, who as far as I know have not been giving high marks for anything that's come out of the administration, any approach.
But Mulvaney, I think, he's a Trump guy.
He's got to be just a pure Trump guy.
People hate him too much for him to be anything else.
Oh, yeah.
He's got something to do with Trump.
So he came out, he came into the briefing, and he was very specific about two pieces that are going to be not funded, defunded, however you want to call it, in the budget.
And the first is climate change research.
Regarding the question as to climate change, I think the president was fairly straightforward.
We're not spending money on that anymore.
We consider that to be a waste of your money to go out and do that.
So that is a specific tie to his campaign.
All right.
Slow clap.
Nice.
And the other piece?
I think the message the president sent right now is that we want to defund those.
And there's completely defensible reasons for doing that.
It's a simple message, by the way.
I put myself in the shoes of that...
I'm a steel worker in Ohio, the coal mining family in West Virginia, the mother of two in Detroit.
And I'm saying, okay, I have to go ask these folks for money, and I have to tell them where I'm going to spend it.
Can I really go to those folks, look them in the eye, and say, look, I want to take money from you, and I want to give it to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
That is a really hard sell.
In fact, it's something we don't think we can defend anymore.
As to specific vetoes, you and I both know it doesn't come over one by one.
Line item by line item doesn't come over.
They come over in large appropriations bills.
And we'll work with Congress to go through the appropriations process and we'll make determinations on whether or not to sign appropriations bills or veto them at the appropriate time.
And that to me is also the bottom line.
I agree with that.
I don't really have much of a problem with this.
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, these things are just drinking clubs as far as I'm concerned when it comes to the group that gives government money.
They don't need that money.
No, no.
I mean, if I was running the thing, I'd moan and groan about it because the money's good.
It's good money.
Yeah.
But you can get by.
And we need to start cutting this stuff because we have to reset because we're going into the toilet here with our debt.
And when it comes home to roost, which will be maybe this year, it's going to cause a huge problem.
It's going to slow down everything.
You're not going to get any money.
Government or otherwise, it's going to be a disaster.
Unless Whoopi opens up her pocketbook.
And that ain't happening.
I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
And opening up the pocketbook is not trivial, apparently, at least today.
No.
We sent a newsletter out to 16,000 people, and only 25 would respond with more than $50 in donations.
Hmm.
Now, why?
I think it's rather...
What happened?
I think it was an off day.
Perhaps people were watching NCAA basketball tournament.
Hmm.
Or they lost their brackets and a bet at the office.
I have no idea, but I found this to be a piss-poor performance.
Oh, and there he is, putting your newly learned knowledge to use.
But we can thank Derek Adams White in Queensland, Australia, for $172.
Also, R.C. Maus for $100 in Vista, California, and he...
Send in a card.
So if anyone sends in a card, it's going to get read.
Thank you very much for the great show and the media deconstruction on show 910.
Adam suggested we send Christmas cards in the middle of the year, so here's mine.
Oh, nice.
I don't remember you suggesting this, but this is like the second or third.
I did, no, I remember it, yeah.
This is the second or third Christmas card.
It was Dame Astrid from Tokyo who had one laying around.
Oh, right, she just threw a card back at us.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it closes the check, and in return I ask for a little karma for upcoming trips.
And he wants to add the word boondoggle to our list.
But boondoggle is not an old phrase.
It's already in play.
So you can give him some karma after this.
This is about bringing something old back to be new.
And taking credit for it.
Like cripes.
Bill Johnson in Grovetown.
We'll give you a karma at the end here for you.
Yes, we will.
Bill Johnson, 8171, from Grovetown, Georgia.
You may not have a birthday shout-out for his son.
I believe I do.
Brennan?
I'm going to check.
Otherwise it'd be marked, I would think.
Yes, I have it.
It's marked in yellow on my spreadsheet.
What?
Do we have different spreadsheets?
I'm using a public domain spreadsheet probe.
Maybe it's light yellow.
I don't know.
It is a lighter yellow.
It looks like it's not yellow on here.
Public domain.
You mean open source?
Yeah.
Open source.
Get off Libra.
Libra office.
Libra.
Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington.
6996.
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So inside jobs in Seattle, you got our boys from Seattle coming in.
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Great Britain's $55.10.
Double nickels on the dime.
Kevin Payne in the ass is the way he puts it on his thing now.
Kevin Payne in the ass.
It's funny.
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Kammerer.
Kammerer.
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Matt Saminsky is 5033.
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And these are all following $50 donors, name and location.
If there is one, otherwise, just name Israel Cazares, 50.
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Kevin Porter, Parts Unknown.
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Daniel Vought, I believe, in Vancouver.
And we have a happy birthday thing for him in Portland.
Also known as Danimal.
Yep.
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Paul Rudkin somewhere in China, I think, at CN.
Yep.
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Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
And finally, last but not least, is Benjamin D. Wilson in Hummelstown, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
I want to thank all his folks for helping us out on show 913, and we do have 914 coming up.
And we do not have a single boob donation?
Did you not have anything linked?
Did it just fail?
I did have one boob link.
Wow, this is bad.
Your boobs are no longer working.
Well, maybe this thing got thrown into spam.
Defective boobs.
Yeah, the boob link was a good one, too.
What was it?
It was a bunch of boobs.
Okay, makes total sense.
No, we had...
It was hooked to...
To Kurt Eichenwald's picture with the couple of stooges.
And we did want to discuss a little bit about what happened to him.
Well, first, I want to thank everybody for their courage, for supporting the program.
Also, people who came in under $50.
That is typically done for anonymity reasons.
Or you may be on one of the programs, the layaway programs.
All of this helps incredibly.
Very, very appreciative.
And let's show them.
Let's show them that we don't need no government funding.
We're doing okay.
You know how we do it?
By not having huge staff and producers.
By working hard.
Working hard.
We don't have anyone doing the work for us.
These NPR people, they roll into the studio.
This is right.
I worked at these places.
You roll in and somebody hands you a script and you practice it or not.
You can do good cold reads and some people can't.
We resist.
We much.
Right.
But he obviously thinks he can do cold reads.
And somebody writes it for you, he's up there.
And then they put makeup on you, they put you in the makeup room, and they slap you, give you a powder, and they, oh, your hairline needs a little work.
But John, when you really think about it, when you really think about it, there is so much, particularly with today's technology, there is so much that can be cut in all news organizations.
You can just do the work.
You cannot make money on a podcast.
If you want to have a producer and someone edits for you and a dude named Ben to upload, you got to do some stuff yourself.
It's just, it's over.
Yeah, and a few volunteers do some side things, like our artists are a good example.
No, no, no, forget about it.
Our model is the right model.
I'm saying they can't even cut the producer part.
I mean, yeah, I'd love it.
I mean, we were partying last night.
I would love to get up at quarter to nine and walk in and go, oh, it's all good to go.
No, the PBS podcasts are loaded at the gills with people.
They have a credit roll.
Yeah.
A credit roll.
All right.
They have a credit roll.
They have so many people working there.
They get this and that and the other thing, you know, everything but a gaffer.
We will, and a fluffer.
We will be back on another program on Thursday, and we certainly appreciate some help for that as well.
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No nightings today, and that, of course, probably didn't expect that to happen, considering the short list we had today.
But we do have a title change.
And today we congratulate Sir Michael Halfley.
With his upgrade status to Baronet.
And he is now known as Baronet of the Internet.
And you can find that reflected on our peerage list at itm.im slash peerage.
And thank you for your courage, sir.
And thank everybody else for your courage.
Just thank you for just all the courage in the world.
Thank you.
And remember to write love and light rip for Chuck Berry.
I met him once.
You probably hung out with him.
I have never met Chuck Berry.
Oh, that's interesting.
I met him backstage at one of his concerts when he was making this comeback after getting out of jail.
No, Chuck Berry.
I did meet another guy who died recently.
It was Percy Sledge.
Oh.
I told you my Percy Sledge story, didn't I? We're going to hear it now.
Yeah, it was kind of a small gig.
It was part of a radio thing in Holland.
And so it was in a cafe, a stage riser, but the lights were relatively low because it wasn't like a huge concert venue.
And Percy's there, and he has about four songs he does just over and over again, or did.
But he had all this jerry curl in his hair.
I mean, old school jerry curl.
Then, what exactly, do we know the history of jerry curl?
I don't know, but I remember when I think it came out in the 50s or 60s.
And it was used to create that effect.
Yeah, it's a permed hairstyle.
Greasy looking, but...
Oh, here we go.
Invented by hairdresser Jerry Redding.
That's okay.
So the jerry curl is just a style, but there's a lot of liquid in there.
Goop.
Yeah, goop.
So he's singing when a man loves a woman, and he's belting it out, but he's standing right under, and of course, back in the day, we didn't have LED lights.
No, we had 2.2 kilowatt lights.
I know, and those things were hot.
And he was standing under it, and his hair is smoking, John.
And it's more and more.
And I got on the intercom.
I said, I'm going on stage.
I gotta get him away from the light.
He's going to combust.
And we saved him.
No, I'm sorry.
I saved him.
Yeah, you saved.
No one else cared.
I saved him.
Hey, that smoking thing looks great.
See if it catches on fire.
That'd be cool.
Yeah, man.
Exactly.
Okay.
Alright, so let's just be real aside here.
I just want to get this.
Kurt Eichenwald, the writer, is a Newsweek writer.
He used to be in the New York Times.
And he made a fuss over this.
And if what he says is true, I can assume why he made a fuss.
But some...
He's a big Trump basher, and some douchebag sent him a...
He said, really?
And sent him a gif.
The guy has epilepsy.
Oh, okay.
Maybe let's just clarify this for a second.
I was amazed at this story.
So, the mechanics of it were that someone sent him an email...
Right?
No, I thought it was a Twitter thing.
I think he had to click on a link or something.
Okay.
And when he clicked on the link...
It was clinking and clinking involved.
Then it opened up a page that had flashes intended to induce an epileptic fit or just a seizure.
An epileptic seizure.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Has this been done successfully?
I find this to be an incredible weapon.
It's a known thing that you can do.
On a computer screen, though.
That's why they warn you about flashbulbs on the English television.
Warning flashbulbs.
Because apparently if enough flashbulbs go, if you can get this effect.
And I don't know what the frequency is.
I don't know how to do it.
But I know it's doable.
But I don't know what the results would be.
I mean, this guy...
Let me read this thing from the...
I think it was in the Raw story.
Just three months ago, Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald temporarily quit Twitter.
It's Twitter as a result of support for Donald.
After a supporter of Donald Trump sent him a flashing image that is on Twitter that triggered an epileptic seizure.
Friday, Eichenwald tweeted that the man who was sent a strobing image has been arrested by the FBI.
And I find this to be peculiar.
Yeah.
The man faces federal charges and will be indicted.
This is in Dallas and other charges for this.
It's an attack.
After the news came out, someone had harmed Eichenwald.
Online copycat sent him similar graphics.
That's how much he's loved, I guess.
Oh, yeah, here, Chase, look at mine.
Apparently the FBI tracked down 40 people who did this.
One of the reports says that he...
It had a seizure.
It couldn't move one side of his body.
He couldn't talk for days on end.
Now, I've known people that have Grand Mall, both Grand Mall and Petite Mall, which was more noticeable when I was a kid because it wasn't good medication for either one.
And...
And with grand mal, which is the most exaggerated version.
I'm not even familiar with these terms, grand mal.
Grand mal is the real epileptic seizure where you go nuts or you usually fall down or you start yelling and screaming or you start running around.
There's different ways you can react to it.
We had a guy in my school who used to go beat people up.
Just a short interjection.
After you left, not long after you left last night, The party officially became a party as one of the guests, a guy face-planted right into the floor.
And I was like, this is so cool.
This is like a real party.
He had a seizure.
But it was just like a real party.
I'm not kidding.
Was it an epileptic seizure or what?
Not sure.
All I know is, all I know is, yeah, now we're starting.
Anyway, so the petite mole is like you just kind of zone.
It does not much to it.
And we, I knew a kid who had this and it was just like he'd be talking to you and then all of a sudden he'd be staring for maybe 20 seconds and then kind of just be literally be gone.
But you wouldn't notice this if you weren't aware of these things.
Right, but apparently Eichenwald went down.
He went down and hurt himself, I guess, and then he was numb on one side of his body.
I don't know of this effect.
But I assume it's possible.
All I know is my boyhood friend, my next door neighbor, had epilepsy when we were growing up.
And we were all on the block.
We were all taught if Hans has a seizure, then you got to make sure that he doesn't swallow his tongue or try to bite his tongue off.
And you got to put a piece of wood or something in his mouth.
We were all taught that.
Sadly, we never got to try it.
Because how cool would that have been?
Well, it's kind of frightening.
As a kid.
Not now.
Anyway, so the FBI is going after this, and I'm thinking there's a number of screwy things about this.
One, is it leading, is it going to lead to something like if you send somebody a triggering picture, like of a mouse with his head cut off, let's say, because people will send that out as a nasty, oh yeah, and they send a picture of the Dead animal.
Or the goat sea.
My favorite.
So if you send that out, is this an attack?
Well, I totally agree that this is going to be very interesting.
Is it Twitter's fault for allowing this clearly weaponized tweet going through?
And should they put in...
Weaponized tweet is a good show title.
Weaponized tweet, yeah.
Or should it be an automatic Twitter trigger warning?
You know, people are asking me all the time.
I got a note this morning.
Please don't play the Rosie O'Donnell nyet nyet thing.
I'm horrible.
I hate it.
It hurts me.
And I said, what do you want?
A trigger warning every time I do something?
Maybe that's what people want.
A Twitter trigger warning.
Well, I think Twitter...
It's a computer system.
It should be able to catch this sort of thing, something that strobe, one of these hypnotic strobe things, and just not run it.
They should just kill it.
There's no reason they can't.
No, there's no reason to run this sort of animated GIF. They should kill it in the process.
Yeah.
But I think it's going to be very interesting to see how far you can go if you're going to arrest someone for sending a strobe light tweet to a guy with epilepsy.
First, and I guess they kind of proved the guy knew, they found some documents that the guy knew that Eichenwald had epilepsy.
So you can say there was intent.
So they got the intent part, I'm pretty sure.
But still, is it really...
Well, I agree with you.
Can you call somebody a name?
You're a jerk.
And you don't realize, but when they hear the word jerk, they go into it and have a tantrum or something?
I mean, I don't know.
I find this to be very weird.
Yeah, I tried clipping.
Someone sent me a rather long video.
I'll have to find it.
There's some outfit in, of course, it would be California, I think.
And they are focusing very heavily on how words hurt people.
You know, the antithesis of sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt me.
And we've been following this.
Free speech is going to have, it's going away.
Certainly if you don't own the avenue where this free speech wants to take place, such as Twitter.
So I think Twitter will have to, you know, Twitter, Facebook, it's not going to end well for them.
Let's hope.
It can't.
Let's hope.
I mean, at a certain point, you have a checklist of all these things you can or cannot say or post.
It'll just be over.
I watch my followers go up and down whenever I post certain things that are political.
I've decided I'm not going to post political stuff.
I don't care.
There's some good stuff out there, too.
Well, I have a link here from...
This is from BBC. Germany warns social media firms over illegal content.
Germany's justice minister has drafted a law that seeks to impose the fines as part of efforts to police toxic chat.
Jai Lomas said the voluntary efforts of social networks to tackle the problem had not gone far enough.
The proposal requires sites to run 24-hour helplines and to delete flagged content within seven days.
This is the internet.
It's not going to work that way.
Unbelievable.
Mr.
Maas quoted research which suggests Twitter deletes only 1% of the hate speech it is told about by users, and Facebook, only 39%.
Racism and hate speech are believed to have become more prevalent on German social media following the arrival of a large number of refugees in Germany.
Any content that was clearly criminal would have to be removed within 24 hours under conditions outlined in the draft law.
It's a draft law.
Okay.
If after an investigation, content is found to be criminal, then that must be removed in seven days.
The people who posted the illegal content must also be told about its deletion.
This is not going to work long-term, certainly not, but where's the criteria?
Where's the criteria?
I think it is very interesting.
At what point is your tweet weaponized?
And is it just pictures?
I agree.
I'm on board with what I call memology of memes, and I think memes are very powerful.
If they're done right, I think they're super powerful.
Are you talking about a true meme that goes on into the public domain, or are you talking about one of those photos that somebody puts words around and they call that a meme?
Both.
Both.
I think that the picture memes sometimes can be very, very...
A lot of them are dumb and don't do anything.
Some of them are powerful.
I know they are.
I know that stuff works.
But will that then...
Let's do some more research.
Maybe that will be forbidden.
Where does it end?
Forbidden.
Forbidden tweets.
That's forbidden.
You cannot do that.
Forbidden tweets.
Forbidden.
All right.
Well, anyway, so that's that story, which is developing.
So we have no other clip to connect with Eichenwal.
Eichenwal is not talking to anybody.
I do have this couple of stories here.
How much time do we have left on this show?
Probably about 10 more minutes, although let's say 11.
Might as well say 12.
No.
No, because after you play this next clip, then the 10-minute warning should sound.
Well, I have a couple of things.
Well, let's play...
I mean, I got some...
Oh, I'm sorry!
Less than 10 minutes to go, okay?
You're wasting valuable time.
Well, let's play this clip.
This is kind of a tech news thing.
Maybe it's not really, but it's kind of something I wanted to play.
This is...
Have you ever heard about Grayball?
Grayball?
Oh, Grayball.
Yeah, this has something to do with masking, ride-sharing, ride-hailing apps or something.
Yeah, this is Uber and Grayball.
I just thought it was kind of interesting to me.
But first, Uber has announced it will no longer use Grayball, a secret software it developed and used to avoid officials it suspected of conducting sting operations on drivers.
So how did the program work?
Shirley Sitbon has the story.
When you thought 2017 couldn't get any worse for Uber, it just did.
According to a New York Times report, the company intentionally dodged rules of towns that banned its services.
Uber allegedly used a secret program called Grayball, a software that allowed them to identify which users may have been trying to prove the company was operating illegally.
One technique involved drawing a digital perimeter, dubbed a geofence, around government offices on a digital map.
The company would then watch which users would frequently open and close the app.
As evidence, the person was associated to city agencies, a process nicknamed eyeballing.
Credit card information to find direct links to institutions like a police credit union were also used.
Based on the data collected, Uber then served up a fake version of the app with ghost cars to those tagged or grayballed as city officials.
According to the article, it's been going on for a while.
Back in 2014, Portland city officials tried to catch Uber in the act.
But yeah, there were two drivers that were available at one point in time and they both canceled on me.
Grayball was reportedly approved by the company's legal team.
Uber says it's a way for them to stop consumers from using its service improperly.
This comes at a time of intense negative media coverage for Uber.
At the top of the list, claims by a former female engineer that the HR department ignored multiple instances of sexual harassment and discrimination.
Chief Executive Travis Kalanick was also...
Grayballing.
They bring unrelated information into the story.
So if I understand correctly, grayballing is to make sure that people who are going to spy on the company to see if they're doing things right, that they don't get picked up.
Well, in the case of Portland and some of these other cities, it's as if they were still working in Austin.
Yes.
And they just don't want to get busted.
Well, they're coming back.
It's illegal in Austin.
The word is they're coming back.
Yeah.
That's the word.
That's the word.
Hey, I got one.
Okay.
This is, you mentioned it one or two shows ago, with the fence jumper.
Yes, I have a clip on him.
Okay, well, I'll do, well, I thought we played your fence jumper clip.
Do you have a new one?
The Secret Service Report CBS? You have a new one?
Yeah, this is new.
Oh, let's play that then.
I want to hear that.
I have something maybe related.
Let's check this.
The Secret Service is investigating an embarrassing breach of security.
Are you sure we didn't play this already?
I'm so sure we played this.
Well, this is the one that's about the laptop mostly.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
It's the latest in a string of them over the past few years.
CBS News has learned that an agent's laptop computer containing sensitive information is missing.
Here's Jeff Pegues.
The laptop was stolen yesterday morning from a Secret Service agent's car parked...
What kind of voice is this guy really trying to put on?
I was like, well, I've got this Jeff Figuaze does a lot of stuff.
And he does talk a little bit like a guy that's a character on a cartoon playing a guy who's yelling out a news story.
And I do not know why I'm talking like this.
However, we will continue to bring you the information.
Figuaze.
The laptop was stolen yesterday morning from a Secret Service agent's car parked on this street in Brooklyn.
Law enforcement sources say the computer contained information about Trump Tower and information on Hillary Clinton.
Also missing Secret Service agent lapel pins for the Trump and Clinton campaigns, as well as the 2015 papal visit.
Okay, stop right there.
We know this.
We need to make sure that people who are new to the program know that is a serious security violation, the lapel pins.
They're really seriously important!
Because the lapel pins are how you identify for each scenario.
We know this.
We've gotten this information.
If you're a part of a particular day, they have meetings.
Today we're wearing this pin, so you all can identify if someone shows up with the wrong pin, there's something very wrong.
Well, the way you get around, because you go and you see what the Secret Service, what pin they're wearing, and then you have that pin.
This report doesn't emphasize that, and it talks about the, there's a little fence jumping action in here.
It's not done.
You want to play the rest?
Yeah, play the rest of it, because there's a couple of points that they didn't even make, and this guy, Pegues, puts together, he's got another story that I do have a clip of, and he drops, when he's in the booth doing his editing, he's pretty loose and loosey-goosey, it seems to me, and I'll discuss that later.
Clinton campaigns as well as the 2015 papal visit.
Police have grainy surveillance videos showing someone breaking into the vehicle, but detectives have been unable to develop a profile of the suspect or determine whether the agent was specifically targeted.
What happened to rotate, enhance, and zoom?
In a statement, the Secret Service said its laptops contain multiple layers of security, including full disk encryption, and are not permitted to contain classified information.
The theft comes less than a week after intruder Jonathan Tran climbed over the White House fence and roamed around undetected for nearly 17 minutes while President Trump was in the executive mansion.
The Secret Service says Tran scaled three different fences on the White House grounds.
One five feet, one eight feet, and one three and a half feet, while Uniform Division's officers attempted to ascertain the location and identity of the individual.
Before deconstructing this, I would just like to remind people we believe these types of reports are meant for one reason and one reason only, to communicate to the President, and they did it to President Obama a lot, we can get you whenever we want.
They had this guy, a Vietnamese guy, he's from around here.
He's from Palo Alto or something like that.
And they had him on the street.
I don't have the clip of it, but I did watch this.
He's walking down the street.
He's wearing a suit and tie.
He looks very normal.
And the reporter's running up to him.
They got the camera, and you can tell he's backpedaling as fast as he can and talking to this guy.
He says, why did you do it?
Why did you run around on the lawn?
And the kid says, kid, he's like 20-something.
He says...
I'm trying to get some attention.
Trying to get attention to myself.
Trying to draw attention to myself.
And she says, the president says you're unhinged.
There's something wrong with you.
And the guy says, yeah, he's probably right.
Wow.
Anyway, I got part two of this if you want to play that.
House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz has investigated other White House breaches and says Tran nearly made it inside the mansion.
The idea that somebody could jump the fence of the White House, be on the grounds for upwards of 15 plus minutes, be right up against the building, hide behind a pillar, and then jiggle the door, that can never, ever happen, and yet it happened again.
In 2014, a man scaled the White House fence and made it all the way into the East Room.
Anthony's Secret Service officials are angered by this latest breach, and CBS News has learned that it is expected to lead to suspensions and possibly termination for some of the people involved.
Jeff Begues.
Thanks, Jeff.
His laptop part, that's a new twist to the old fence-jumping thing, though.
And by the way, the jiggle of the handle I thought was dynamite.
Yes, the laptop thing, but if it's got disk encryption, it sounds like they've got their encryption act together, and there's no problem here.
Probably not, but still.
You've got his password written right on the laptop.
You've got to wonder why.
So, here, they have grainy surveillance video.
What?
Huh?
Why have surveillance video at all?
If it's going to be grainy.
Yeah.
I know.
We can have a drone flying over everything 24-7, getting down to 30 centimeters.
Yeah, what does it take?
Yeah, I don't like this.
I didn't like it when they did it to Obama.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
It's mean.
Well, yeah, it's definitely mean.
I did not put this together, but I thought it was a cute montage that I wanted to share from Media Research Center.
You know, they're totally right-wing.
Love Trump, hate everybody else.
But they did put together a funny little bit in relation to the tax returns, the two pages of the tax return that Rachel Maddow brought to the forefront and helped us understand.
And I really like this little compilation of all the people who were so certain that Trump never paid any taxes in the past 20 years.
This is not something you would typically see on mainstream media.
And again, we didn't put it together, but I think it's fun to listen to.
And they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.
He hasn't paid taxes, perhaps, for the last 18 years.
The revelation that Donald Trump didn't pay income taxes.
Donald Trump is avoiding paying taxes.
Do you want to pay taxes?
The fact that he hasn't paid taxes for almost 20 years.
He hasn't paid taxes in 20 years.
Probably hasn't paid taxes in 18 years.
We know he didn't pay his taxes for 20 years.
He didn't pay income taxes for 18 years.
Donald Trump hasn't paid taxes in the past 20 years.
We're not even talking about the fact that Trump didn't pay taxes.
Now the idea that Trump hasn't paid taxes nearly 20 years...
That means Trump hasn't paid taxes since the year his next wife was born.
Even if Trump hasn't paid federal income taxes for 18 years, who the heck cares?
I think the biggest scandal is not that Donald Trump hasn't paid taxes for 15 years, it's that we've got a tax code that allows it.
The Indiana governor shrugged off the likelihood that Trump didn't pay federal income taxes for nearly two decades.
Donald Trump's tax returns.
Have surfaced.
Paid $38 million.
Looks like $38 million in taxes.
You made me stay up till 9 p.m.
to tell me that Trump pays taxes.
Yeah, that was a good one.
People in the chat room are calling me a Trump lover, which I really despise.
I kick you out the minute you say that.
I'm more critical of Trump than most.
Yeah, who talks about him being so fat?
Yeah.
Besides us.
Yeah, fat.
I have never heard anybody discuss this.
No, that's right.
And moreover, we not only just talked about him being fat, but how he covers it up.
Yeah, his methodology for covering it up.
Yeah.
Yeah, what could be more complete than that?
This show's worth his weight in gold.
Yeah, I concur.
All right.
How about a mosque?
Oh, this is interesting.
And I have a story to go with, and then I won't do anything else.
I can move this stuff to Thursday.
Today is Thursday.
Today is Sunday.
Today is Sunday.
Everything gets off when I have to do something that's off schedule and going down to Los Gatos.
The cats did that to me.
Face recognition.
Hello.
Hello!
Face recognition.
Here we go.
In the near future, CCTV will not only film us and detect dangerous behavior, but it will also be able to identify each and every one of us in real time.
It's made possible thanks to phenomenal advances in facial recognition technology, as Alex Hurst explains.
It might sound like something out of George Orwell's 1984 with Big Brother watching your every move.
But with advances in facial recognition software, it could be a reality sooner than you think.
In the past few months, Eurostar, the high-speed train that connects Paris and London, has been testing such software at security screenings.
The technology is advancing at a rapid pace and becoming more effective.
Like this software created by a French company for the FBI, which is adept at recognizing faces even when they aren't completely turned towards the camera.
The program is also able to tell when someone has changed their appearance.
For example, you might think that these are two different people.
that would be a mistake.
They show two different Chinese women and when you look at them it's not the same person.
But what it was is it is the same person she had work done.
And they could see that?
Yes.
I have actually experienced this equipment and I'm going to talk about it.
I think I have clip two here.
It says three.
Even more efficient software can track a subject like this man as he passes from one camera to another.
You see that You see that at 12.32 he was over there on camera two.
And then he shows up again on camera one.
And you can follow as he goes.
The benefit is that we gain time.
The implications go well beyond saving time during investigations.
The software could potentially be used in real time.
For example, to scan crowds as they wait to enter sports stadiums.
For the moment, problems remain.
With poor video quality, the system can make errors.
And to identify a suspect, that person has to already exist in a database somewhere.
Plus, widespread use would raise questions about civil liberties and the ability for ordinary people to go where they please, anonymously.
It might raise questions.
You think?
Someone's going to get killed from this.
That's obviously going to happen.
Wrong guy.
I had been...
This was about five years ago.
I was in Portugal for some event.
And there was a computer show that I went to.
I think it was one of the reasons I was there, if I'm not mistaken.
But next to the show, in a lot of these areas where they have...
These exhibits and exhibitions, there's sometimes two or three of them from different industries running parallel.
Well, next to the computer show was a law enforcement tools show with all kinds of crazy stuff.
Cop cars and all these things.
So I warmed my way into that event because it seemed more interesting to me.
And they had this equipment, and this is like five years ago.
Huh.
And it was, I'm pretty sure it was a French company.
I'm guessing it's the same company.
And they had this turnstile.
They had like a thing to walk through.
And the demo was you get to, you walk through it.
And then once it identifies you, then you can walk through it.
Every time you walk through it, it says it's you.
So you go through this.
It actually works so well, it's creepy.
You go through it and you puff out your cheeks.
Or you squint your eyes and puff out your cheeks.
Boom!
John!
You turn sideways.
You give it like a profile.
Boom!
John!
How about if you're wearing a hat?
A hat?
Doesn't matter.
I couldn't do anything.
I tried and tried and tried.
And the guy said, well, I said, this thing's just saying everybody's John the guy walks through.
No, it's this guy.
So I could not beat this thing.
And I tried every way possible.
And every time it would identify me.
It was unbelievable.
And that was years ago.
I can't imagine what it's like now.
It must be just absolute dynamite.
That's why I could spot that woman who had the, she had a nose job.
And it's all, yeah, same person.
Certainly if she's Asian, you know, if she's Chinese, I mean, there's a lot of things that just, you know, hair color, eye color doesn't really change.
She had a facelift and a nose job.
And still it could detect that.
Yeah, they said, but I don't know if it could or not.
But I can tell you this, the equipment I was dealing with, I could not do anything.
I couldn't scrunch up my face.
I couldn't give it smirks or down, you know, pull back.
It was nothing.
It was always catching.
Well, I think there is a Turing test for this type of equipment.
And I believe if any facial recognition program can identify Rachel Maddow today from TRMF and the high school yearbook photo of her, then you've got a damn good machine.
Have you ever seen the high school yearbook photo of Rachel Maddow?
No, no, I haven't.
Just search right now.
Yearbook Rachel Maddow.
It'll be the top one.
If any machine can identify that, then it's worth its weight in gold.
Well, it doesn't necessarily identify.
Maybe.
I mean, it might.
You never know.
I mean, I have no idea, but I'm telling you, this stuff works great.
The only good news is that if you're not in the database, it won't recognize you.
How about if you put on an eyepatch?
I think it would still catch you.
All right.
Hey, now.
All right, everybody.
Okay.
I want to...
I'm wrapping it up, John.
I know.
I'm going to get this before you're done.
Get what?
The picture, Rachel.
Oh, okay.
Well, my thanks for sure to Grand Duke, Sir David Foley, for his hospitality.
And, of course, to his lovely family.
Holy crap!
There it is.
There it is.
And his lovely wife, Lisa...
And their son.
She's got that big, thick neck.
All of their friends.
She's got the same eyes, and she's got a big, thick neck.
All of their friends who are here in the community, who welcomed us with open arms, despite, well, you know, the Tourettes.
Yes.
You're Touretting it up.
Tourettes and Skechers.
Hey!
There you go.
Hey, Skechers.
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Science is turning into a clique.
Hello.
Hello.
It's me.
It's me.
And here I sit on the stoop.
Let us know what the story is.
Go to noagendashow.com.
Let us know what the story is.
An alternative universe is being proposed.
Let us know what the story is.
The microwave is turned into cameras.
Reality is something making his face.
What I can say is there are many ways to surveil each other.
The British spying is GCHQ.
President Obama went outside his unit to get news.
So we know that that is just the fact that they're not targeting Americans.
They're targeting foreigners.
But they're doing it purposely to get to Americans.
Let us know what the story is.
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Let us know what the story is.
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I can't help but think about Upton Sinclair, who said, It's hard to get a man to believe something.
when his salary depends on his not believing. - That's your business too, Bill.
So you must believe this.
Okay, he's got the Upton Sinclair quote wrong.
It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
Ah!
He used the word, he substituted the word believe.
So you must believe this.
This is not a scientific anything.
This is a belief system.
And he actually proves it by using the word belief instead of understand.
Shut up!
Play!
Science!
So I predict that the year 2016 will be among the top 10 hottest years ever recorded.
Oh, I'm not a scientist.
I'm not a scientist either.
Believe this.
You believe in the wrong religion, my friend.
Douche.
Was it appropriate to jail the guys from Enron?
Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry?
So I can see where people are very concerned about this and are pursuing criminal investigations.
So we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens.
So what we want to do is have a fee for carbon.
There it is.
unprecedented cunts.
Thank you.
Inside it all with reality.
Time will be determined by the majority leader in consultation to create reality.
Executive session to document 11.14.
Thank you, sir.
Alderness reality.
The various parliamentary stages up to an equation.
Thank you, sir.
Doesn't have a stove.
Doesn't have a stove.
Solid reality.
Solid reality.
Thanks, Nancy.
Thanks, Nancy.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Doesn't have a stove.
Doesn't have a stove.
Can't soup.
Can't see.
Oops.
Doesn't have a stove.
Doesn't have a stove.
Thanks, Nancy.
Thanks, Nancy.
Thanks, Nancy.
You should agree to the motion we consider.
We consider making late comments.
Nancy, thank you.
Which doesn't give.
It's pretty small, but it's really all you're eating if you don't have a stove.
Lodge doesn't have a stove.
I would object to this.
I'm sorry.
It's really all you need for one person.
Doesn't have a stove.
Ability to create reality.
Eating men don't have a lot.
Doesn't have a stove.
I assume they do.
Send a procedure executive session to document a lemon.
So I'm saying this is just too many.
I want to put our foot apart.
Doesn't have a stove.
Reality.
Which doesn't coincide at all with the ability to create.